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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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fight.
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Dan and Jory, knowledge fight.
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Need, need money.
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Andy and Candice, Andy and Candice.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Candice, Andy and Candice.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Candice you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a Osisian color.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight. Knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I'd like to sit around and worship at the
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altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan.
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Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Well, my bright spot today I've already actually talked to you a little bit about. Yes. I watched
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the entire first season of Traders. On my recommendation. I had it recommended before
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as well. That's true. That's true. And it first came to my attention. My headphones
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have now come unplugged. Oh, they're in the wrong ear. They're in the wrong ear, buddy.
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You keep them in your right ear. This is what happens when you switch headphones, all right?
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You think you've got to put it in the left ear, but it goes in the right. And here we
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are. Change is wrong. So now I've got the left ear headphone over my right ear. It's
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backwards now. Oh my God, you're killing me. Yeah, but now it has to be because the cord
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has to be over here. There's no way around it. Yeah, it has to be. So no, I first heard
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of the show, I think because I heard that Parvati from Survivor was going to be on season
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two. And so I was like, what's this now? What's this show? And so I had it in my mind, but
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then I think it was your recommendation that might've put me over the edge. Sure. But yeah,
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I watched all of it. It's fine. Good. Alan Cumming. He's good. Doesn't get better. He's
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good. Doesn't get better. Snazzy dress. I could listen to him say murder about 300 times
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a night. Yeah. And he can, you know, you can tell a lot of the times when someone isn't
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enjoying hosting a show and he's having a blast. Yeah. There's, there's some time, you
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know, like with that 007 show where Brian Cox was clearly like, you are paying me way
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too much money to use zero amount of my talent on this. Fuck it. Let's ride. And it's the
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same, it's the same thing. Cause in that show, Brian Cox did these like cinematic weird like
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for no reason. Yeah. There would be so many reaction shots of him looking to the camera
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and being like, you didn't say anything. And in this one, Alan Cumming is using all of
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his like ability to seduce a camera. 100%. Yes. It's great. It is fun. You can't take
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your eyes off. My favorite thing about it. One of the people on the show, Christian is
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what I described to you as big Nick Rowley energy. Yep. Reminded me very, very much of
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a dear old friend from the standup days. And then the other thing that is great about the
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show that other reality shows should learn from is it's tight. It is tight. That's true.
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They never have that much time to sit around and do nothing. Like the schedule of how the
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show runs is like, this is happening today. We got to bang it out in a week, man. Someone's
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getting murdered tonight and then we're starting over. There's no days off. You don't have
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reshoots. That really helps. Yeah. Because as much as I like the challenge and you know,
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some of these other shows, there's a lot of fat. There's a lot of fat that could be trimmed
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and there's really, you know, the pace really helps keep people on their toes. It's a mystery
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type show. They're trying to solve who are the traders among them. And so there should
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be that pressure cooker aspect of it. Totally. And I think that that was wise of them, even
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if it is probably a budgetary concern. I think it's, I think it's also partly the game concern
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because they all have to go home to separate. It's like a jury. They all have to be sequestered
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at the end of every night. Otherwise the three main care or the three traders don't get to
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be there. Right. Right. So you don't have all that time of like, you know, Johnny Bananas
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in a bunk bed with wearing half a shirt, looking at four different people arguing about shit.
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Right. You know, and it's like, no, they're at their hotel going, I wonder what's going
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to happen. Am I going to get murdered tonight? Speaking of which, yeah. Johnny Bananas is
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on the next season that starts soon. He is not on the next year. You are joking. CT and
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Johnny Bananas are both on season two. You are fucking with me. They announced the cast
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and they have no more normies. The first season was half reality show celebrities and half
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normal people. And I think that actually was a good blend, but apparently this time it's
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all the celebrity types. No shit. And so you got CT and Johnny Bananas, both from the challenge.
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You got Parvati from Survivor. Oh, I thought, okay. So I thought the new season, I thought
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there was a new season that was happening right now. It starts on the 12th. See, there's
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a new season in the UK that's happening right now. I thought was the same show. There's
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a different host obviously. And it took me a hundred hours to figure out that that one's
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in Scotland. This one takes place in Arkansas. Exactly. It's like they're both set in the
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same castle. Yeah. The budgetary concerns, budgetary concerns for sure. Um, but yeah,
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so I'm excited about that. CT, Johnny Bananas, Sandra Parvati. I don't know who a lot of
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these other people are from shows I've never watched, but a lot of real housewives. I think,
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I think Johnny's a trader. I swear to God, I think he's a piece of shit. I've known this
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guy for 25 fucking years. My mind reels to imagine like CT as a trader or as not. He's,
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he's going to be gone fast. If he is a trader, the moment where he takes off his hood in
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the little dungeon area, that'll be the best. Everyone will turn and be like, what the fuck
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are you doing? Now here's the thing. We're talking about this for too long, but way too
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long. I do think it would be fascinating to have this show exist when CT was a violent
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drunk. So he's one of the traders, but he keeps getting into fights and he seriously
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murdered somebody. Yeah. Anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot. I was a, I was
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kindly asked to be a guest on a podcast called book cult, uh, by Sidney with Sidney and Delaney.
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They were very, very nice. I thought you were on Marin. No, they wanted to talk about my
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book inexplicably. I think they were going through the 10 worst authors and I was number
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one. Look at this false modesty. 2024. Uh, so it's not false modesty. It was negative
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self-talk. It was really nice. It was a, it was really nice. They, they had found our
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show, uh, but recently, so it wasn't a, and one of them read my book without knowing who
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I was at all. So that was like, Oh, that's great. Get some unfiltered criticism and you
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know what? Okay. Is good enough for me. Hey, we all aspire for, okay. Perfect is the enemy
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of good. Perfect is the enemy of good and good is going to get murdered by. Okay. That's
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how it's going to be. That's 2024 buddy. Okay. It's going to get murdered by CT when he's
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a trader. Oh man. I see bananas. We got to get bananas out of here. I can't do a CT.
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That'd be great. Um, so Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over and this is a day
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of wrapping up loose ends, if you will. Okay. Um, unfortunately that means that I found
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the rest of the Jimmy Dore audio and I decided we are kind of leaving a dangling thread there
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and I don't want it to be like a hundred episodes from now. Like whatever happened to that?
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So let's go ahead. Let's get done with it. Yeah. Some stupid fucking shit. But here we
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go. I'm looking forward to 2026 when we finally get to reset Wars. Uh, that might be sooner
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than you think. Might be sooner than you think. Uh, I'll leave it at that. Okay. As Alex likes
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to say. All right. Um, but uh, before we get down to business on this episode, let's say
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hello to some new walks. That's a great idea. So first, Sam C, thank you so much. You are
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now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, go home and
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tell your mother you're a grifter. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy
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wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Dawson, a donation has been made in your name
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to the trans human fund by T. Congratulations. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. Hey, Scott with a K Olson. Are
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you listening yet? Those were all capital letters. Oh yeah. Uh, love Jay. Thank you
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so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next.
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Uh, Dan and Jordan stop saying Sharia law. It's cringed signed a Muslim. Thank you so
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much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Do we say Sharia
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law a lot? I don't think, I think only in the context of whenever crazy people say it.
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So I don't think we're actually talking about the real thing ever. I'll be more mindful.
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I guess I didn't know that we don't need to. I don't need to know time. We also got a technocrat
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in the mix. Jordan. So thank you so much too. My wife's name is Jordan and her dad's name
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is Dan. So she's always looking up when I play this podcast in the car. Thank you so
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much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Someone, someone sodomites sent me a
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bucket of poop. Daddy shark, bam, bam, bam, bam. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce
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Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. And now I'm getting very self-conscious
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about how we talked about, uh, the traders for a very long time and maybe didn't give
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a good enough plug for that podcast that you were on. What was the name of it again? Just
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in case people are like, I don't want to go back 20 seconds. Book B O O okay. Cult, a
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cult, a cult all available wherever you get your finest podcasts with Sydney and Delaney.
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So something that is unfortunately also probably on a various podcast platforms is Jimmy doors.
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We talked about, uh, our first episode of 20, 24 was, uh, getting into the old door,
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swinging the door opens and uh, now it's time to slam the door shut. I do think so. I do
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think so. I w I was left curious, but not really like hungry for more. Sure. After the
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hour and 15 minute or so version that I had heard of their interview, which I went into
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thinking was the whole thing. Yeah. Uh, but I was able to find the rest of it and I don't
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know if it's unedited, like it's what Jimmy put out on his YouTube page. So I'm not sure.
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It seems about the like, we're going to start up at about an hour and 15 and that's about
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where the first one ended. So it's about right. Yeah. There are little things like, um, the
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part before the introduction in the, our first episode where Alex saying, I only drink what
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you spit in my mouth. Sure. That is cut out. So it's cleaned up a little, leaves, it leaves
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open like the possibility that some things were like brushed up a little bit just fine.
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Um, but either way, uh, we start, uh, I don't know, I don't think this is the same topic
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they were covering. That's left off. Um, but complaining, uh, about homelessness. If you
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remember a couple of weeks ago, Gigi and Ping visited San Francisco. And if you've ever
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been to San Francisco, there's homeless people everywhere. Well, they cleaned that up for
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Gigi and Ping to come there. And just like, so a couple of years ago, Gavin Newsom announced
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that there was a $40 billion surplus. You can put Alex up. There was a $40 billion surplus
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in California. And I was like, well, I bet he's going to clean up homelessness and he's
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going to give people healthcare and they did nothing. They did nothing with that $40 billion.
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And now they're saying it's all gone and I don't know. And no one knows where it went.
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And so we know that they could clean, they could end homelessness in America for a fraction
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of the money that they sent to Ukraine at the blink of an eye and restarted. And that's
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right. They could have fixed it four or five times over and they could have sent everybody
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to college for free. They won't do any of that. So it's it's I'm developing this theory
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that they're wanting us to be on edge and they want us, just like Tucker had talked
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about it when he was on our show, they want you to when you go to the 7-Eleven, you have
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to step over a homeless person and everything's locked up behind cages and you're going to
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get a crazy person screaming at you so that you will welcome authoritarianism. Right.
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Just like with the terrorist attack on 9-Eleven did, we became a surveillance state. People
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gave up their freedoms. By the way, the Patriot Act was on a shelf for years. They were waiting
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to implement that. And so people just forgot that every email, every text, every phone
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call they make is being recorded and taken and categorized and collected by the government.
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And so I've tried this. I'm starting to develop a story like so. They keep saying that Trump
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and Trump are going to start a civil war. The people starting a civil war, the corporate
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media, which are beholden to a handful of billionaires, which are beholden to no country.
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And they it's like they want us fighting. They want to set each other's throats. They
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want homelessness here. That's why they won't fix it. They want everybody to be on edge
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and afraid. So just off the bat, I'd like to say the Jimmy's theory is dumb, but it's
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right in line with him becoming more and more a part of a community of people who like to
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craft dumb theories, which seems to be his career trajectory. He'll fit in fine with
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these guys. So she visited San Francisco recently as part of a meeting for the summit for the
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Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation or APEC. And in advance of that, a couple of spots
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that were frequented by people experiencing homelessness would congregate. Those got cleared
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out. This was achieved partially by opening up a small number of additional shelter beds,
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but also by stepping up arrests for drug related crime and by pushing the unhoused people away
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from these areas that were near where Xi and other world leaders would be meeting. I don't
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think that Jimmy is suggesting that they solved the problem of homelessness in order to impress
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Xi, but his messaging is very convoluted here. I understand that he thinks it's hypocritical
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to just do this in order to not look bad in front of another world leader, but does he
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support the kind of tactics that were used to put a band-aid on this issue? Like, I feel
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like he shouldn't, but I'm left unclear. So one thing about this clip that I want to highlight
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is how it illustrates that Jimmy is a person who's prone to bouts of impotent non-curiosity.
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He has questions that he assumes, you know, he thinks that no one has the answers to,
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which just results in him spewing and being angry about something that he assumes, like,
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why, why, why? No, like with the budget. Sure. The budget surplus. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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He says that no one knows what that money was spent on, but if he was curious at all,
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he could have found that answer very easily. Oh, because people do know what that money
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is. Oh yeah. In November, 2022, the head. You have to, there's an accountant. He works
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there. It's his job. But it's even simpler than that. The head of the California Department
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of Finance, H.D. Palmer was interviewed by Capitol Public Radio and he explained it fully
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quote. So the governor, when he was noting our surplus, said that this isn't going to
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go on forever. In the past in California, when we've been in good times, the governors
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and legislatures have thought this is going to go on forever and we can continue budgeting.
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In doing what we've done so far, thinking that we're going to be in good times for a
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number of years, it's turned out painfully not to be the case. The governor was very
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mindful of that back in May and he said, let's be smart about how we deal with a surplus.
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And the legislature agreed with him and they were smart in a couple of areas. They chose
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to pay down debt for prior years. They chose to build up our budget reserves. They chose
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to continue reducing our long term liabilities like pension obligations. And they chose to
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use a good chunk of the discretionary part of the surplus on one time spending as opposed
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to building a higher ongoing level of spending. And probably the best example of that in terms
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of one time spending is the $9.5 billion in inflation relief payments that have been going
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out this fall to a total of about 17 million Californians and are continuing to go out
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and will go out through the end of the year. That's provided some near term relief for
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Californians who've been hit hard by inflation, but that's a one time expenditure on a targeted
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program where we think it had a very helpful result. All of this was available information
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for Jimmy, but no one knows where any of this money went. You can disagree with the choices
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of how the state used the surplus, but just to pretend that it's a mystery and no one
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knows what happened to the money is intellectually dishonest and the mark of someone who doesn't
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really care so much about the stuff he's talking about and seems to just be looking for talking
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points to yell about. Also, Jimmy is saying that the government didn't spend the surplus
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on ending homelessness or giving people free health care or higher education. That's great.
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In my mind, those are great things to invest in, but he's talking to Alex Jones, someone
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who doesn't think the state should pay for any of that stuff. Alex believes that the
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only pain for any of that stuff is rank communism, and the state would only do it to make you
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reliant on them so they can more easily exterminate you. Unless the two of them address that ridiculous
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elephant in the room, their conversation doesn't make any sense. But back to Jimmy's theory
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about how the man or the globalists want you to be unhoused people around, so at the 7-11
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it keeps you on edge to accept authoritarianism. That's dumb, like I said. It's also very similar
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to a lot of the theories Alex has, and the similarity is dehumanization. The people
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experiencing homelessness aren't people to Jimmy, in the same way that refugees and asylum
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seekers aren't people to Alex. They're a weapon that some evil cabal is using against the
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good people, like Jimmy and Alex. If you buy into mentalities like this, you're far less
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likely to connect to the subject you're talking about with empathy, and more likely to tend
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toward paranoia and hostility. The problem of homelessness becomes something that's secondary
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to the larger problem you actually are focused on, which is the ways you imagine the man
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is secretly meddling to try and keep you on edge. Obviously this has the result of taking
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away your interest in working towards legislation that helps unhoused people, because ultimately
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what's the point? If you do that, the man is just going to find some other way to keep
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you on edge, so dealing with homelessness is really just rearranging deck chairs on
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the Titanic. Having this mindset is a very convenient way to continue to pretend that
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you have left-leaning politics, but allow your mind and everything you do to be consumed
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by conspiracism, which seems to be what's going on.
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I mean, all of these conversations from these people should have ended the moment somebody
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was like, hey, Elon, you can fix world hunger. And he was like, okay, I'll do it. And then
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they were like, you can do it for this money that you won't notice is gone. And he's like,
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I'll do it. And then he's just like, nah, I don't think I'm going to do it.
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If Elon Musk, by himself, already their hero, can end their problem that they're complaining
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about right now, without noticing a change in his bank account, then their arguments
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are nothing to me.
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Well, but also the other element that you have to encounter with that is that there
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wouldn't be oversight and governmental red tape to get through where Elon to do that.
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That's what I'm saying, yeah.
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Whereas any attempt to deal with these problems through government largesse and expenditure
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is going to be violently posed by people like Alex, who Jimmy is talking to. One of the
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big reasons why the government doesn't spend more money on the things that he wants them
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to, apparently, is because of the person he's talking to and the world that he represents.
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Also, I know they are sending money to Ukraine, but a lot of those giant figures here are
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like military equipment and stuff. So you don't need that here.
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But either way, Alex has a response to Jimmy's dumb theory.
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Let's hear it.
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And it's not a good response. It's not even a bad response. It's barely a response.
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All right.
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I really am an expert on this because I read the writings voluminously of kind of the high
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priest of these people that you all know are Hararis and folks. And so a lot goes into
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this. But at one level, you're 100% right, and there's some other levels to it, in my
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view. Klaus Schwab has said we want an angrier world. So they want you to see dystopia and
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pain. It was declassified. And since the 60s, the CIA wanted ugly art, ugly architecture,
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ugly culture, so that you would explore an uglier world and just get used to it and wouldn't
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demand beauty and wouldn't go along with art was bad in the 60s because they were about
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to end the experiment of America with all its problems and all the issues. It was the
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wild, wild west.
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What could we call the wild west?
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Sure.
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I don't want to sound like a broken record, but Alex absolutely does not read voluminously
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stuff by WEF figures like Schwab or Harari.
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Absolutely not.
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He knows a couple of out of context quotes from them that he's seen in memes, and he
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knows the extreme right-wing social media talking points that he uses his launching
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pads to rant. But he's never read any of their books.
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Klaus Schwab never said that he wanted to create an angrier world. Alex is lying about
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a CNBC interview he did in July 2020 that was given the headline, quote, WEF founder
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must prepare for an angrier world. The interview was about how the election was upcoming and
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we were in the earlier stages of the COVID crisis, and Schwab was predicting that the
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world would likely become more angry.
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The remedy that he proposes is greater dialogue among countries and stakeholders, as well
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as a push to provide equal access to things like the medical system. Since Jimmy is such
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a big Medicare-for-all guy, that should have been right up his alley. But you'll never
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know that was what Schwab was talking about if your main source of information is liars
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who make things up about headlines.
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There's nothing in any of Schwab nor Harari's book about a plot to create an angrier world.
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This is just something Alex has made up and decided to pretend is a real plan that Klaus
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Schwab has. It wasn't even on that album of his. Well, maybe it was.
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That is weird.
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Maybe it was, actually, in there.
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That would have been a great cut. I would have preferred that one.
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I wish that in that whole thing, that whole album of Schwab covers, one of them was just
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like the Limp Bizkit's Break Stuff, but all the lyrics were the same. All the other ones
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were parody songs about you will eat the bugs.
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That's just like, man, this is Klaus's favorite song. It's time to karaoke it.
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I think if Weird Al actually tried to do that album, it would go platinum. I think it'd
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be great. Weird Al as Klaus Schwab in...
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Again, the AI voice really ruined it.
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It really did.
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It's not nearly as funny anymore.
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It sucks. What I hate about this stuff, especially from Dorr, because he's an idiot, and he just
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needs to shut up.
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The big effect that these episodes have done is really make you not like Kurt Metzger.
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I really hate Kurt Metzger.
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You went in with a totally positive opinion of him.
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He was pretty funny. Now I hate him a lot.
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It's not going to get better throughout the course of this.
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Yeah, I believe it. No, it is that this is what they want. They want you on edge, or
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all of this stuff, and nobody can just handle the idea that it is not a they want situation.
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House-lessness ultimately comes down to there's a guy whose job it is to maximize profits
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for a business. That's his job. He doesn't think he's a good guy or a bad guy. He just
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thinks this is my job. There's a hundred of those guys, and then there's a million of
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those guys, and then there's a boss who's a billionaire, and then there's a stock buyback.
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That's the business.
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Now there's $6.5 billion in profits instead of $3.5 billion, and that $3 extra billion
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in profits could have put people in houses. It wasn't because some evil guy thought we
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would need to put people on edge. It's because there's 100 guys, and their job is to just
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maximize profits.
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Yeah.
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That's just their job.
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The government has, for better or worse, and despite good intentions from other people,
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we are fairly complacent with a government that doesn't step in and mandate some of these
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things.
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Exactly. Like the idea of-
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Those choices could be made.
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A profit cap would end this world, and it makes the most sense of anything. What are
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you talking about? You can only make blah in profits, but then what? Well, that's money
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that you're just taking. It's not money you're reinvesting. You're taking it.
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Sounds like you hate freedom.
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I do.
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Also, Alex is completely wrong about the whole thing about the CIA and art.
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No, that one actually was made. Yeah.
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During the Cold War, the CIA funded groups like the Congress for Cultural Freedom that
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promoted Western art as a propaganda effort against the Soviet Union. The thinking was
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that the U.S. and Western culture was so much more free and thus more creative, and if it
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was celebrated, it would be a massive cultural victory over the Soviet system, which was
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much more traditional and caught up in the past.
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All of our art styles like abstract expressionism stood in stark contrast to the prevailing
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culture of the Soviet Union at the time, and many have suggested that part of the push
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in terms of popularizing this style and artists like Jackson Pollock had to do with cultural
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fronts like the CCF, some of which were essentially CIA fronts.
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The irony, of course, is at the same time, they are blacklisting Jews for being in Hollywood
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for making things that people would appreciate in a very similar sense. Weird.
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But even in the most, or I should say, excuse me, the least generous interpretation of that
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history with the CIA and art, it wasn't about making Americans accept an uglier world and
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not demand beauty. It was yet another weird idea that anti-communists put into action
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during the Cold War. Alex's version is probably a lot more fun, though, and it fits into the
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conspiracy architecture that Jimmy wants to play inside of, so that's the version of reality
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that you're going to get out of this.
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Yeah, yeah. It is weird how a lot of people just did drugs and were like, hey, we're in
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the CIA somehow. Let's just keep doing shit. And then we allowed it to happen. Yeah. They
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just did drugs and then committed war crimes. And that was the CIA until now.
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Was this your book? Was this part of your book?
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It was a little bit part of my book. I did a lot of research.
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A chapter. They did drugs and now we're committing war crimes.
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That was pretty much it, yeah.
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So Bilderberg comes up. And Alex talks about his infiltration strategies that he's used
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over the years.
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You mean walking in, reserving a hotel room. Are there any other infiltration strategies?
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There's one other.
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If you talk to, when I've covered Bilderberg myself more than 10 times, my crew many other
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times, we get into the hotel a few days before they close it. And I hand out a card and I
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say, when the Bilderberg group comes here to the waiters and to the staff and to the
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bartender, to the bellhop, when they come here and you see how rude and evil and mean
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they are and you hear what they're saying, here's my phone number, call me and give me
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information.
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This is all in one card?
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They throw in the trash, give them to me. I learned that from Jim Tucker, an old reporter
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that had been covering them since the 70s. And he's dead now, but he was a really interesting
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old fashioned gumshoe. And so they would then be so rude and so mean and never give a one
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cent tip. None of them give tips.
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Hillary Clinton, a restaurant, gives no tip. A lot of times skips out on it. And they're
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all like this. Gavin Newsom, I've told people that know him. They're all like this because
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they are such sociopaths slash psychopathic. They're all on that scale that to them they
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don't understand doing good to others comes back to you. They don't get that if they crap
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in the swimming pool, they've got to close the community pool because they're so rich
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and powerful. They're disconnected from ever being in a community pool. So they feel so
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insulated and so to stay the last time you were at a community pool, even though they're
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conscious of evil, their body, their even their genetics still has the old human there.
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So they subconsciously hate themselves. So they then project onto the public their own
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self-loathing. And I've talked to top psychiatrists about psychopathic serial killers. They only
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feel alive when they're doing something bad or being nasty. And if they do anything nice,
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they are so hyper competitive that they feel like they're being cheated.
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Wow. I tire of the speculation about how good a tipper Hillary is. Also, I should say even
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by Alex's inaccurate schedule of Bilderberg meetings, he's out there in Europe three years
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and then in the U.S. one is tipping customary in all the countries. It's just ridiculous.
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It's just us. Right. So anyway, I found an article in Fox News of all places from 2007
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about how good a tipper Hillary is. Oh, my God. Apparently, she and her entourage at
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a maid right in Iowa where the bill was one hundred fifty seven dollars and they left
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a one hundred dollar tip. Who knows if that's normal for her? I sure don't. People should
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tip. Well, but this is gossip level shit that Alex is trying to exaggerate into being some
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kind of relevant political point about their psychology. If anyone like, OK, of all the
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things that Hillary can be. Right. Once you become secretary of state, how much you tip
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will always be less important to me in terms of like your standing as a good or bad person.
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True. Then the number of war crimes you commit. And I would suggest to you that in that position
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that you're in. Sure. You're often not picking up the check. That's true. I would assume
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at the echelon of life that Hillary Clinton is at. That's probably true. There's usually
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probably someone who's her body person who carries her card. At the very least. At the
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very least, most lunches can be written off as a business expense. I would I would I would
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assume that some of those decisions are a little bit farmed out. Yeah. Other people.
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So Alex has absolutely not physically covered Bilderberg 10 times. He's been to the one
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in London that we covered for our fly show in London. He went to that one in Chantilly,
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Virginia in 2008. And he went to the one in Canada that's included in the film Endgame.
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We did see that. Outside of that, I'm not sure he's gone to any of the others. And of
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those, the only one where he definitely got into the hotel was in Chantilly. The other
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times he just bullhorned people driving by in cars. Yep. Alex has never produced anything
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that's been provided by Bilderberg waitstaff whistleblowers. It's just the Trojan horse
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that he uses to launder his bullshit. It's the same trick that Jim Tucker and Daniel
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Estelan use. They make up stuff about the Bilderberg meetings. And if they need to provide
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a source, they can say some disgruntled waiter told them about what they overheard in the
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shadowy back rooms. It's just a parlor trick. Smart move of Alex though, not to talk about
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who Jim Tucker wrote for or how the publication he was the editor of was full of Holocaust
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denial. Well. No, no, no. He's just a good old fashioned gumshoe. He was a gumshoe. Gumshoe.
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Listen, who didn't deny the Holocaust back then? I was barely even thinking. Quite a
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few people. Quite a few people. Ah, come on. There was prevailing. Prevailing among who?
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Editorial position. Among commies. Well. Yikes. Yeah, that's. I don't even feel good. No.
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So Alex in that last clip said they a lot. They want. Yes, they want. To be fair, Jimmy
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did too. You're saying that they want everybody to be on edge. Yep. But Jimmy wants to know
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who are you talking about when you say they? That is a good question. We know the answer.
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I bet if we all talked about who they were, we'd get a lot of different answers. You bet.
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Yeah. But we know the answer. And it's the globalist. But then the question then becomes
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who are the globalists? Well, that's not a good question to ask. But here's Alex's discussion
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of it. All right. How would you define who when you keep when you say they how how do
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you define they? Who is the they? There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the Chinese
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government and corporations already up to a bad state. Psychopaths in the German government.
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There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the US government. There are sociopaths and psychopaths
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in the Israeli government. There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the Russian government.
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But they've already been through 80 plus years of this. So they're in many ways having a
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renaissance and trying to to to to get away from it. That's your fully on the bottom yet.
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So we're going deeper into it. But if you want to know who runs it, BlackRock is, you
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know that you've covered it. BlackRock State Street and Vanguard, all controlled by the
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same group of less than a dozen managers control 88 percent of world assets and wealth. And
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they've said, we'll use this to control people. They want to cut off our resources are saying
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and we can't take showers or wash our clothes. It's an Obama told Africans, you can't have
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a car or air conditioning, but he can have jumbo jets. You know, palatial, you know,
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things, you know, all over the place. And so it's a religion of do as I say, not as
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I do. I'm an annoying one. I'm a priest class. So I've noticed that when Alex wants to appeal
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to folks who aren't as far on his side of the extreme right, he'll often stress his
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opposition to BlackRock a lot more. That's a solid strategic move, since the people he's
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talking to, in this case, Jimmy's viewers probably also hate BlackRock. They may hate
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them for a different reason than Alex does, but Alex can use the optics to smooth that
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over. But let's get that, let's track this answer that Alex gives when he's asked who
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they are. We know it's the globalists, but here we get Alex being descriptive. So we
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can assume this is a description of the globalists, right? They're sociopaths and psychopaths
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in all the world governments. So they're in all the world governments. So that's the first
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description. It's unhelpful. Entirely unhelpful. No, some people everywhere are doing it. That's
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very helpful. But there's no connective tissue other than they're crazy people. Oh no, there's
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some people. There's some of them. It's also clear from the part that Alex says about Russia
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that he means communists, which he doesn't have a coherent definition for. All this means
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nothing. Well, some people who like to get together and do stuff that anti-communists
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don't like. Right. And then I'm also going to extend anti-communist into being like,
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I kind of hate minorities. So if there are people who are in support of rights for minorities
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and things like that, then I think they're comedies. So then Alex says that it's Black
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Rock, Vanguard, and State Street. Black Rock manages about $9.5 trillion in assets and
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is the largest business of that sort in the world, while the other two are also giant
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financial entities. It's fair enough to say that these three companies represent a significant
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problem for our country, but it's not in the way that Alex suggests. Alex doesn't know
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anything about these companies outside of the little tidbits of information that he's
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gleaned from memes and headlines of articles that he's never read. Case in point, Alex
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says that these three companies are controlled by the same 12 people, or I think he says
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less than a dozen, and that they control 88% of all assets and wealth. That's a lot. So
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the first question is, who are these 12 people? Alex has never really mentioned anyone outside
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of Larry Fink as somebody who's in charge of Black Rock, and the only things that Alex
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even knows about him are various right-wing culture war memes, like how he supports ESGs.
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Who runs State Street? Their current chair is Joseph Hooley, and their president CEO
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is Ryan Hanley, but those aren't names that Alex ever brings up, most likely because no
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one's posted a meme of them yet. But are they two of the 12? Does Alex know who runs Vanguard?
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I mean, I feel like Bill Gates has got to be somewhere in there, right? Otherwise...
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I don't know, he's in the council of 13. I forget the numbers now.
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It's 12, because he doesn't do odd numbers like any good council would.
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No, but there's a secret Baker's dozen.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
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That's where Bill Gates is.
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That's the trick is.
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So does Alex know who runs Vanguard?
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Nope.
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Does the name... I was going to make up a fake name, but then the guy's name ended up
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being Mortimer Buckley.
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That's unreal.
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That's a good name.
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That's when you're like, oh, maybe we never did get rid of King George. If Mortimer Buckley
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is a rich person in America in 2024, we didn't defeat the king in 1776.
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He goes by Tim. He goes by Tim.
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Yeah, I bet he does. Smart change. Smart change, Morty.
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So Mortimer Buckley has never been a constant obsession for Alex. Obviously not, because
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he isn't meme-able, and Alex just covers memes.
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Right.
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But for real, who the fuck are these 12 people?
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Vanguard has a page on their website with profiles of their managing directors, and
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there's 12 of them at that company alone. They have 13 members on their board of directors
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and not much overlap between them.
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You go to BlackRock and you've got a global executive committee of 24 people, double the
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number that Alex is saying make all the decisions between the three companies.
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What Alex is saying is stupid. There aren't less than a dozen people at these three companies
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that run everything. It's just that there are a very limited number of people involved
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in these businesses that Alex has been able to turn into characters.
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These are businesses, and even if we disagree with their aims and their particular way of
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making money, Alex's view of them is very reductive.
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Part of this is due to the nature of conspiracy and how everything has to be boiled down to
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a small cabal that's in charge of everything.
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It doesn't serve the conspiracy theorists to deal with BlackRock as a business with
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24 members of a global executive committee and who knows how many hundreds or thousands
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of employees downstream, many of which are the people who manage the investments they
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hold and who make decisions about those holdings.
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That gets super complicated really quick, so the image of it has to be that these companies
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are essentially dictatorships run by figureheads that Alex has been able to turn into characters.
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Thus far, that's only been possible with Larry Fink, which is why BlackRock comes up
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much more in Alex's diatribes, but he includes State Street and Vanguard when he rattles
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off the list because it makes good window dressing.
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What about his claim that these three companies, quote, control 88% of world assets and wealth?
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Is that true? What do you think?
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88 seems high. A lot of people who get reelected with 97% of the popular vote, that has the
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same ring of honesty to it.
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Yeah. It's not true. These companies are investment companies, and they put together portfolios
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for funds for corporate or individual investors to put money into for a bunch of different
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purposes. Some of it might just be for individual investments. Some of it might be putting together
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a retirement package or corporate pension funds. In order to do this, they pool individual
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and corporate money to invest into these collections of stocks and funds that they put together,
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index funds.
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Right.
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It can be a little more complicated than that, but as a fairly basic elementary way to view
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their role, that's a decent summation.
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The stat that Alex is citing, the 88% number, is not a percentage of assets or wealth that
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they own or control. It's an approximation of the percentage of assets that are being
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traded in the context of index funds that are managed by these three companies.
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They have what many consider to be an effective oligopoly over the Exchange Traded Funds or
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EFT market, but this is not the same thing as what Alex is saying. Still a problem, not
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the same thing that Alex is saying. That number, which may well be in the lower 80%, does not
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account for all investment, and it certainly doesn't account for all wealth.
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That said, these three companies do pose a very serious problem, and it's one that should
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be addressed. The amount of assets these three companies manage has generally been increasing
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in recent years, and there's every reason to assume they'll continue to remain in that
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position, squeezing out smaller index fund management companies.
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This is worrying from the standpoint of the economy, but there's also another issue that
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Alex is somewhat right about, but gets pretty much entirely wrong. As the holders of a great
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deal of stock which they own in these funds, which people then invest in, these three companies
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have an outsized say in votes within the companies for which they hold stock.
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In a 2019 paper in the Boston University Law Review, Professors Lucian Bebcik and Scott
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Hurst cited a statistic that from 1998 to 2017, the average combined stake of BlackRock,
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Vanguard and State Street in S&P 500 companies quadrupled from 5.2% to 20.5%, and that, quote,
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assuming that past trends continue, we estimate that the share of votes that the big three
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would cast at S&P companies could well reach about 34% of votes in the next decade and
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41% in two decades.
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The issue with this is pretty obvious in that it represents a consolidated and very outsized
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influence that these companies could have on corporate decisions. And this is exactly
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where Alex has a valid criticism about these companies. He brings up that they have these
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investments and holdings in other companies that gives them sway, but the only time this
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ever comes up is when he needs to complain about people being too woke, which is where
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the criticism goes entirely off the rails.
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Why is the new Little Mermaid not white? Because BlackRock owns Cher and Disney and they're
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pushing their woke agenda. Why is Bud Light putting Dylan Mulvaney on a single promotional
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can? Because BlackRock invests in Anheuser-Busch and they're pushing their woke agenda.
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This is the place where the anti-BlackRock type narrative fits in Alex's world, and the
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fundamental irony is that the role these three companies play in their corporate existence
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is far more aligned with Alex's politics than he likes to pretend.
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Alex and his ilk drum up this meaningless but loud opposition to these companies, and
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maybe they'll make a small dent in their earnings for the quarter, but then things fizzle out
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and the right-wing culture war obsessives move on to the next meme they're told to get
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angry about and nothing really changes.
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The conversation may at times dip its toe into talks of boycotting these companies that
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BlackRock holds investments in, but even that's an impotent action, but it's about as far
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as someone like Alex can go.
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And the reason for that is that all the viable solutions for the problems that these giant
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companies present are things that Alex directly opposes. Things like changing tax structures
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and regulations around retirement funds. Things like entirely new regulation on corporate
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governance in the landscape that these giant funds create. Things like hyper-taxation on
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money management. These are all things that would work to deal with the issue this outsized
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influence has, and they're all things that Alex would start a war to oppose.
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Yeah, yeah. I think that is what is, I think, the lesson ultimately here, is that Alex needs
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BlackRock to exist. Like, Alex does not exist without BlackRock existing, because BlackRock
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makes all of these conspiracy theories true enough for people to believe, you know?
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Well, and it's paved enough of the road that you can veer off it wherever you want to go,
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which is the complaining about the Little Mermaid and Bill and Mulvaney and XYZ.
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And BlackRock needs Alex, because Alex keeps people from criticizing BlackRock for real
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reasons.
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Because he veers them off the road before the point where there's something actually
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meaningful that can be done.
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Exactly. If anyone is in a conspiracy with BlackRock, State Street, and et cetera, it
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is Alex and the right-wing media to make sure that we don't actually address, because in
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a real situation-
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And just to be clear, though, you're not suggesting that Alex isn't a conspiracy.
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They're not actually talking. No, no. I mean, they don't pick them up again.
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They have entwined interests that they both are maybe aware of, but I don't think that
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BlackRock gives a fuck what Alex does.
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No, that's what I'm saying. That's the 100 business managers just trying to maximize
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profit. They're not thinking they're doing good or bad. Sure, I work for BlackRock. You
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work for McDonald's. They're doing evil too. What do you want? But that is where we are.
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And I mean, a reasonable society should be able to listen to Alex talk about BlackRock
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and go, hold on, shut up. Stop talking. Then we stop everything. We deal with BlackRock.
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And then we come back.
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No, no, no, no.
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Because we cannot do both at the same time. I can't talk to Alex and have BlackRock continue
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to exist.
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No, no, fuck you. Fuck you. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to make videos of
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ourselves shooting Budweiser cans because BlackRock funds about Analyser Bush and they're
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too woke.
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Actually, you've won me over on this one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. No, I mean, but that is what it is, right? Like we all agree BlackRock is wrong
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and we need to stop them. And the only reason we can't is because of rich people.
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I think that there's some people who would believe it's less wrong and some people probably
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don't even think it's wrong.
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That's fine. But they should also probably be getting rid of it.
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I think that there are at least a fair amount of voices who recognize the danger that this
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organization, not the organization of these companies, but the organization of the economy
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in this way, the dangers that it can present. And there are some of the things that I was
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reading did somewhat compare this to early antitrust times in a way that makes a fair
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amount of sense.
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I mean, yeah, it's robber barons. It is a luxury somewhat of 2024 that arguments should
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be so much shorter now, because if you cannot look at BlackRock, if you can't look at the
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situation with BlackRock and that and just be like, they have that much? That's too much.
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It's ridiculous.
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If you can't do that, then we don't have a conversation.
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Well, but here's the thing. They don't own all those stocks. Hear me out.
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You see what I'm saying?
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I'm not defending-
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That's why I'm saying it's a shorter argument.
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This is why it's a little bit more complicated. It's not like they own all this stuff and
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they run all these companies and all this. I get what you're saying.
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This is where you and I are going to be in a struggle here, because the nuance is very
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important for the second part. What is important for now is the fury, and the fury is the only
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way you're going to get to the second part.
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You're not going to get there by being like, hey, listen, what we need to do is tax write.
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The only problem that I have with that, because I somewhat agree with you, is that fury is
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the thing that gets you derailed. Fury is the thing that someone like Alex can distort
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and he can use that as his clay. That's one of the only reasons that I would try and put
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a pause on advocating fury.
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No, I agree with you.
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But I also think that unchecked fury in some ways can lead you to think, well, what I should
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do is blow up a Black Rock building or something. And that's not necessarily what you should
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be saying either.
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On this most glorious of anniversaries.
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It's the seventh.
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I think it's important. No, it is undirected fury. And that's where we get into trouble,
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because on one side we have the idea...
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Because undirected fury will get directed by Alex, is what you're saying.
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That's what I'm saying. Nobody else is directing it. Nobody else is willing to, because there
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is the idea that if you direct fury, period, you are the bad guy. And Alex, the only people
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who are actively doing it, are the bad guys. And so we have a complete abdication of responsibility
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towards directing righteous and real fury, and giving up to it to Alex.
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There may be something to that. So Alex can't really oppose Black Rock, Vanguard, and State
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Street in any meaningful way, because there really isn't a solution outside of getting
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the government to impose some kind of guardrails. The only other option really is to get investors
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to not invest in their various funds, but the odds of that happening is essentially
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zero when their funds are the best performing ones.
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Make less money! No!
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The solution Alex has of demonizing companies that are too woke and maybe getting their
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profits down temporarily doesn't make even the smallest difference for the companies
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at the top.
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So if these three companies are the ones behind the globalists, then strong government intervention
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is what needs to happen. And you can count on Alex to never support that happening. Trump
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isn't going to do it, the vague isn't going to do it, but ironically, there's a decent
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chance that Biden could.
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For all the criticism that he gets, one of the things people don't talk about enough
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is Biden and his administration showing a lot of promise in the realm of antitrust issues.
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They have multiple investigations into things like live nations, effective monopoly over
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ticketing, and Visa's relationship with competition in terms of payment processing. A lot of that
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has not come to fruition yet, and it's not that it never will. This is coming down the
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pipeline. And it's not stuff that's gotten to the level of these index funds. But there's
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an indication in how Biden's administration has moved that they're taking monopolies more
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seriously than predecessors, and more seriously than he often gets credit for because it's
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easy to see very obvious ineptitudes in some of the things that he puts forth and the Biden
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administration does.
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Right. But I mean, that's also part of the, that's hamstrung by the stuff he did in the
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past. You know, like part of the reason that the executive branch can't handle this, because
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that's a case that'll take 10 years in court to really deal with.
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Some of that's coming down the pipe in theory this year.
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Sure, sure. But I mean, then there's a new executive and then all of a sudden, you know,
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and it's like, because of the amount of money and because of the way that they've set this
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up over the past 40 years, that is a thing that they can take advantage of. So yes, he's
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doing this. And the reason he's not doing it as fast as people want him to is because
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of shit he did in the past. You know, it's like you win some, you lose some.
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There may be, but I don't think that that is in any way is like something that should
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take away from like the argument to do it.
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Oh no, no, no, no. Absolutely not. I'm saying this is where we are, where it's like, I understand
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he doesn't like that people aren't giving him credit for that shit.
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I'm not saying this because Biden told me to.
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No, no, no. I'm not saying you are either.
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I'm not saying that Biden called me and he's like, hey Dan, look.
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Credit where credit is due. You know, that is, that is true. But the problem there is
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like, I agree with you. This is just where the government, this is how the government
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works. There's just guys doing their job.
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At the same time, if Alex, we're going to bet on a candidate to take on the fight that
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he wants, he should choose Biden. He's not going to do that because his opposition to
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these companies is, it's not sincere. It's political theater. But you know, it is I think
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important generally speaking when there's something to Alex's thoughts and ideas that
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does make sense and has some kernel of truth to not shy away from that. And he's criticisms
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about how much control in theory over the voting by virtue of the ownership of stock
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that these companies have is at its core a decent point. It goes wrong, but that to pretend
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that like that isn't the point just because Alex is saying it is not fair.
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Yeah. I mean, and it gets back to that same, like that ratio thing, you know, like at a
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certain point, Alex is describing a problem that is more important to handle than the
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problem of Alex. You know what I'm saying? I still wouldn't team up with Alex to solve
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the problem. No, no, no, no, no. I don't mean team up with Alex.
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I'm going to retain my problems with Alex. I don't mean team up with Alex. I mean that
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because Alex is talking about it, people are going to look at Alex as the problem. Instead
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of being like, Hey, this time, Alex, you're still the problem, but these guys are shut
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up. We're leaving you alone. You're fucking off. Fuck off. We've got to deal with these
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guys first. Sit this one out, go on another non-vacation
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vacation. Here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do,
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Alex. We're going to go deal with BlackRock. And then when we get back, you see what your
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conspiracy is. That's what I feel like the answer should be.
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Well, because ultimately... There's going to be another conspiracy, sure.
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But we'll have taken care of BlackRock. But ultimately, any attempt that Alex and
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like his sort of type would have, any influence they would have in trying to solve the problem
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of BlackRock. Only give them greater power.
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Yeah. Which is why we have to do it. Well, not me. I don't have a lot of control
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over these things. It's time to do it.
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So look, one of the things that characterizes this interview is Jimmy is asleep at the wheel.
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There is nothing going on. He just lets Alex ramble for such long stretches.
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So if you look at the brain of a Henry Kissinger and the brain of a Zbigniew Brzezinski...
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Can we? One is Chinese, one is Jewish. Or the black
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battle of Hitler. Hitler said, everybody else is weak and dumb,
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survival of the fittest, social Darwinism. We're going to kill everybody that doesn't
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go along with us. And some will be left to slaves, but really we'll get rid of them later.
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I mean, and people say, well, why as you've all known...
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Isn't that Charles Limber? Saying we don't need humans. It's time to
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get rid of people. The future is not human. Hitler just said the future isn't anybody
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but an Aryan, which is bad enough. You all know Harari says the future ain't
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even human. That's a quote. He says humans are gone by 2047. And you can read NBC headlines,
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the same thing, a New York Times headlines, looking forward to the end of humanity.
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I'm in the grocery store checkout lane, saw similar headline last week. It's telling you
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you're garbage. You're filled. You killed the earth. Don't have a life force. Don't
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have a survival instinct. You're killing everything. Look at the garbage. Look at
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the homeless. Look at everything. Die. Roll over. Don't live. Don't thrive. Don't contend
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for the future. Don't affect the future because we have the Renaissance system of believing in
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humans and egalitarianism and classical liberalism and really empowering people,
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but doing it through the classical human system. That's the great awakening that we're in that's
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countering the great reset, the war against the globalists, defeating the globalists and launching
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the next great Renaissance. And they can't compete with that. They are a evil stinking witch
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that's literally trying to hand out poison apples versus literally Monroe in their prime
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freedom in the Renaissance and liberalism. Real liberalism is Marilyn Monroe in her prime. And
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the new world order is like a Skeksi from the dark crystal. They have to make everything ugly because
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they're ugly spiritually, culturally, metaphysically, and they need everything
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ugly to camouflage themselves because they're so fallen. So don't. I just learned recently
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that the AP, the news service, the AP, the owners of the AP, is it the Rothchilds?
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They own a lot of stuff through BlackRock. They also own The Economist magazine.
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Oh my God. Yeah. So Jimmy just let Alex rant about basically nothing for minutes on end.
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Can you do that? I didn't know you could do that.
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Yeah, barely.
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I feel like that was a complete like, oh, I wasn't listening at all.
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Marilyn Monroe is hot. Skeksis are ugly.
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Anyway, so the AP, are they owned by the Rothchilds?
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Yeah. Like he just lets him go on and on. And then the rejoinder is to spout an anti-Semitic
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conspiracy theory about the Rothchilds owning the AP. Before we get to that, we've talked
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about the Rothchild family's connection to The Economist. That has nothing to do with BlackRock.
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And the Rothchild family doesn't own BlackRock as Alex is clearly suggesting.
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No one owns the Associated Press per se. It's a non-for-profit news organization that began
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and continues to exist as a co-op. They began in 1846 and to this day retain exhaustive corporate
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archives that contain their quote, news administrative and government arms. And what
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do you know? They weren't founded by nor they owned by the Rothchilds. But you know what?
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There was a meme that periodically circulates in right-wing social media that claims that the
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Rothchilds own the AP and Reuters. So it looks like Jimmy saw that and counted that as learning.
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He learned that recently.
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Weird.
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It's fucking cute.
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You can just see something on the internet and that's learning.
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Yeah. The only reason you'd say something like this is if you're a complete idiot drawn in by
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conspiracism so deeply that you have no clue what direction is up or possibly to lay an expert
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trap to get Alex to endorse this obviously idiotic position that is based in an anti-Semitic
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conspiracy theory so you have a gotcha moment. And I assure you it is not the second one.
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Okay. All right. You know what? Let's back up. I'm sick of caring about real world stuff.
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Let's get back into where I belong. Comedy. All right?
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Okay.
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You just had Alex Jones go off on a whole jag about how the future is Marilyn Monroe or whatever.
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Right. The, the, the Patriots.
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Whatever.
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The Renaissance.
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I don't give a shit what his actual words are.
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Right.
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The point is you've got Jimmy Dore and Kurt Metzger, ostensible comedians,
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and your response to that is not to riff. It's not to enjoy yourself. It's to go,
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hey, I heard the AP owns the Rothchilds or whatever it is. Fuck you. Fuck you. Have fun.
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Yeah.
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How dare you?
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No, there's no fun here.
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How dare you pretend to be.
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Stop doing stand up is over. Everybody should be done.
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Jimmy's got some tour dates coming up.
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That is not real.
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I bet he does.
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Oh my God.
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So anyway, the rest of all that, the stuff that Alex was saying is no connection to reality.
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He's just taking input. He refuses to understand like Harari's writings or the article with that
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headline, looking forward to the end of humanity and ranting about his feelings about them.
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If you're drawn into this, meaning anything, the only thing you're doing is taking Alex's
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emotions on as truth and then pretending that it's something that's based in sources and information.
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And you're a fool.
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Yeah. You could be like, Oh, Patriots are done. You're like, ah, Alex, you're the hot air
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underneath Marilyn Monroe's dress. You know, you just got, just fucking something. Acknowledge the
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man said something ridiculous. Otherwise I feel crazy. Well, you're going to keep being crazy,
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fucking crazy that he responded to that with like, ah, I heard the Rothschilds owned the AP.
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Interesting.
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How dare you?
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So Alex has heard about the Rothchilds and so now it's time to
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smell some fucking Nazi propaganda. And yeah, the Rothchilds. And that's a whole
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other story. I'm sure you know it, but the British empire was dominant until 1815.
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Oh God.
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But it was in complete control for a hundred years after that because the battle of Waterloo
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was so decisive, defeating the continental forces of Napoleon Bonaparte for the second time with the
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Prussian British pincer attack that the Rothschilds, this is on record, sent a carrier pigeon
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to a fast Corvette ship to race across and to tell everyone when the stock market opened that morning
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that Napoleon had won and that Lord Wellington had been smashed. And the stock market went down 99%.
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The Rothschilds then bought up 99%. This is on record 99% of the stock market. So they weren't
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just the richest family in the world up until that point. They were the richest family in the world
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up until that point on record. Okay. Married into the British royalty, everything. Then after 1815,
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the battle of Waterloo, they owned the British empire. All the major stocks, they got it.
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Of course, Napoleon really lost. And they only had six hours, six hours before they came in and
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said, no, Wellington has won. It's tight.
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It's almost hard to believe.
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It is one. And then it all shot back up above where it even was. So look for them to do this
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again with a cyber attack. They're saying Trump supporters with no evidence cancel the election.
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The election he's 10 points ahead in or more.
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Okay. So we've talked about this many times, so I'm not going to belabor the point,
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but in case there are people listening who haven't heard some of our older episodes,
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this story about Nathan Rothschild is not true. It's a piece of antisemitic lore that's been
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passed down over time, most prominently by the literal Nazi propaganda film called the
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Rothschild's share at Waterloo produced at the command of Joseph Goebbels.
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Oh, and while we're here, we might as well plug Jewish space lasers and Mike Rothschild's
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excellent book. Yeah.
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Yep. I was going to say Mike Rothschild, but I was looking at my notes and the name Matthew
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was there. That was called Matthew Rothschild.
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Nice.
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So anyway, this film, the Rothschild's share at Waterloo was part of a concerted media campaign
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to demonize Jewish people that included this film, as well as the, a little bit more blunt,
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the eternal Jew. So this story about Nathan Rothschild and the getting early information
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about Waterloo and using it to his advantage at the stock market traces further back to an
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1846 pamphlet that was written by someone using the pen named Satan. The person behind that was
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a deeply antisemitic dude named Matthew George D'Arnville, who really hated the Rothschild's.
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He wrote that pamphlet making up this story. It gained popularity in antisemitic circles
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until it was made far more popular by literal Nazi propaganda material and is now endlessly
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parroted by idiots like Alex Jones and probably Jimmy Dore in the future because he learns from
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memes. Yeah, I give it, I give it five, 10 minutes.
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Yeah. Until he just repeats it as something I learned recently.
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Yeah. You know who told me this? I can't remember who, but it sounds a lot like Alex Jones.
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Oh my God. I learned this really fascinating thing about 1815.
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Man. Great.
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I, I'm always a fan of like, guys like Alex's understanding of military history always
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fascinates me. Like all this, like, oh, it's all about the pincer movement and all this stuff.
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And it's like, man, war up until like a few years ago, really it's just who shit themselves
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to death less. So what you're telling me is it was like chess.
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It's dysentery. It's dysentery. It was like chess.
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It's like Oregon Trail is what it's like. Whereas now it's like
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risk. Now it's a little bit-
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An overlay of monopoly. Now it's more like the Yukon Trail.
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Huh. The sequel to the Oregon
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Trail where you only slightly die of dysentery most of the time.
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War is like Fortnite. This is Alex's new special report.
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That one is true.
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So Alex just goes deeper into this. This is just fucking dumb.
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They all admit this at the academic level, like we're young animals. I'm just reading
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what they're actually saying. And they, in mainline PhD history books,
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they admit all this about the Rothschilds. Now I go on there and say it. They go,
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oh, anti-Semitic. It has nothing to do with Jews to say that the Rothschilds did this
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and are super powerful. I have an argument against that.
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Or the Chinese, because Xi Jinping is bad. Am I saying Chinese are bad? No, I'm not.
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But it really is true that that's how a German Jewish banking family who ran pawnshops,
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basically, in Germany and loaned money to people, that's how they parlayed their wealth
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from 500 years ago by 1815 to rule most of the earth.
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The sun never set on the British Empire. Then World War I,
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the Austro-Hungarian Empire had gotten so dominant, I don't mean to give a history lesson,
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but it's important to know that the British intelligence of the Black Hand
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assassinate Franz Ferdinand, the Archduke, the Germans all go crazy
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because they were winning with all the new patents, all the new science.
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The British newspapers were talking about the German problem.
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The British Empire was corrupt, overextended. World War I was started by them. World War II
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was Hitler. He was bad. But the Versailles Treaty and all that led to Hitler coming to power.
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You can read too many books on World Wars.
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But nudged him and funded him early on to have a new enemy.
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Alex, I mean, a lot of this isn't real history. But what he's doing as it relates to the Rothschilds
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is textbook antisemitism. And his denial of that really doesn't matter.
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They don't teach the Rothschilds Cher at Waterloo at the academic level unless you're studying to be
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a Nazi. What is this condescending ass shit? This is what they teach at the graduate level.
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The Black Hand didn't assassinate Franz Ferdinand and all the rest of this shit is
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just bogus fake history. We went over pretty much all this when we covered the film Endgame.
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So if you want to hear more about that, it's all there.
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I'm amazed really that people, in this one space, truly, I don't believe it is anybody's fault,
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not Alex's, that he does not know any accurate history of this time period.
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If you're a 60-year-old dude, you have to stop and think,
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how many documentaries and shit on World War II and World War I have I watched?
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A number.
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Average for a 60-year-old white guy? A million.
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There are a bunch.
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How could you even keep straight in your mind what facts are and are not true anymore?
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Now imagine that you're a guy who's about 50 and for most of your life...
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Your whole life was just one of those documentaries.
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You've been really beholden to news sources that really want to excuse Hitler.
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They really love him.
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Yeah.
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Now think about how skewed your version of history will be.
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Tough to view it accurately.
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Cryptonazis and shit.
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Anyway, Alex rambles some more about world history here, and then Kurt comes in with
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something that really scares me.
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Okay.
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After World War I, the British Empire made a deal, and even Teddy Roosevelt wrote about this.
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Bully.
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It was Churchill.
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Winston Churchill wrote the three-volume set,
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The Histories of the British-Speaking Peoples.
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He was half American.
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He says in there, we came over after World War I, we set up the CFR,
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we merged British intelligence with US intelligence, and then that is the Anglo-American Empire.
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They call it themselves, and Putin says, I'm fighting the Anglo-American elite.
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I have no problems with the Americans.
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He said, I have a problem with your Anglo-American oligarchs.
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He calls us the Anglo-Americans, and who are they?
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The Anglo-Americans come from a Norse tribe that later became William the Conqueror and
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took over France, and they came and took over England.
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So if you go back to all of this, they take the name of William the Conqueror's group
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from a thousand years ago.
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Alex, have you seen, it is unbelievable if you ever see it, there's a movie about the
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Rothschilds, that's black and white, that's made by them to promote them, and it looks
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like something Hitler made to smear them.
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So, maybe we put two and two together, they made it, but it looks like they didn't make
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it.
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It's crazy if you ever, you find it.
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So Alex's history is all over the place and kind of meaningless to break down, but those
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guys sure do love Putin.
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I'm getting the sense that maybe they actually love Putin more than their anti-war guys,
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but who's to say, who's to say really?
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What the fuck is going on?
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How is Putin popular?
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I don't know.
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I don't understand.
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Well, maybe Directionless Rage plays into that too.
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Yeah, you're probably right there.
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So I'm gonna give Kurt Metzger an amazing and undeserved benefit of the doubt and say
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that maybe he's talking about the American film The House of Rothschild, which was not
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made by the Rothschilds, but was created as an anti-Nazi film in 1934 and presents the
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Rothschilds family in a positive light.
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Okay.
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It doesn't, however, look like Nazi propaganda, and if Kurt is suggesting that the film he
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saw seemed like that, I think he might have seen the Nazi propaganda film The Rothschild
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Chair at Waterloo.
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I'm not sure.
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That one sounds more likely.
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But it's hard to say.
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I further suspect this because that film includes the story that Alex just told, whereas the
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American one doesn't.
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So that kind of seems like trouble.
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That's important.
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So that film, the Nazi one, came out in 1940, but was also in black and white.
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So the only way I can really figure out if we could get to the bottom of this is if Kurt
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said what language the movie was in, and he doesn't say that.
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So if it's German, that's Nazi shit.
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If it's in English, then it's The House of Rothschild, probably.
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I find it hard to believe that a man can say, it looks like Nazi propaganda, without going,
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maybe it's Nazi propaganda.
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Not once did he even think, it didn't even occur to him.
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Well, but he's laughing about it because he's a humorist.
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He's a bad man.
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So now the topic shifts to immigration.
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Great.
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No, no, no.
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I'm looking forward to their interesting discussion on how people should immigrate to places.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to just touch on the immigration problem because I've totally flipped on this.
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Is there an immigration problem?
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And I was always the more immigrants, the better, which I still love immigrants.
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We're a whole country of immigrants.
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You should just stop there.
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But I noticed that this situation is being manipulated.
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And I couldn't really put my finger on why.
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Why are they having an open border?
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And which they are.
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And right now you have cities, Eric Adams in New York is screaming that their whole
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city is going to going down the toilet because they can't handle the influx of all these
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immigrants that are coming to his city.
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It used to be a sanctuary city, and now he's trying to find a way to get them to stop.
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But they're not stopping.
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And I was sitting to Dick Durbin, who's a senator from my old home state, Illinois,
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and listen to what he says.
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Here's one of the reasons why they want to get as many immigrants as they can in here.
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Watch this.
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The presiding officer, my colleague from the state of Illinois, has legislation which addresses
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one aspect of that.
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Her bill, and I hope I describe it accurately, says that if you are an undocumented person
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in this country and you can pass the physical and the requirement test, background test,
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the like, you can serve in our military.
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And if you do it honorably, we will make you citizens of the United States.
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Do we need that?
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Do you know what the recruiting numbers are at the Army and the Navy and the Air Force?
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They can't reach their quotas each month.
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They can't find enough people to join our military forces.
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And there are those who are undocumented who want the chance to serve and risk their lives
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for this country.
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They don't want to serve in their own military in their own country.
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They want to go to a foreign country and serve in their military.
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This is according to mercenaries.
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Yeah, this is this is kind of how this is how Rome ended.
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No.
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And so this so he's giving the game away there.
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He says it right out in the open.
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We have to fill our military with foreigners, like cops and our farms.
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And have them be our farm workers, have them be our medical workers and our military and
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have them be our cops.
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I'm not sure what the issue is here, at least not for Jimmy.
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I understand that Alex is a xenophobic racist and sees any erosion of white control on power
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or white power as a threat to himself.
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But with Jimmy, that doesn't quite make sense.
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I don't understand.
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I guess if I'm to be as generous as possible, then this must be coming from his stated anti-war
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position.
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He must not like this because we don't need any more soldiers since we shouldn't be fighting
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in all these wars.
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But in that case, this is a military size issue, not an immigration issue.
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And Jimmy said that he flipped on his position on immigration, which is where this idea started.
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Jimmy used to think that the more immigrants coming in, the better.
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But now he doesn't.
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He hasn't specified what his actual position is.
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But the change in thinking has something to do with offering immigrants paths to citizenship
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that involves signing up for military service.
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I don't know, but maybe I'm small minded.
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But I have a tough time seeing a way this shift in position isn't really just him catering
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to the audience he's carved out by hanging out with folks like Tucker Carlson.
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The only reason you can have an opinion on that is because you watch Starship Troopers
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or you read Starship Troopers and you either agree with the movie you watched or the book
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that you read.
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So either you go, this is dystopic fucked up shit, or you go, yeah, we should really
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kill immigrants.
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Like there's only two ways to go.
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Don't you worry.
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We'll get plenty of sci-fi movies later.
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Don't worry.
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I know.
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I know.
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I don't know as much about exactly what Dick Durbin was suggesting because typically
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Watch the movie Starship Troopers.
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Well, but typically a lot of these folks who have tried to get these bills passed for various
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like police jobs and stuff, it's for resident non-citizens.
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It's not for undocumented immigrants.
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I'm not sure if he misspoke or if that is actually what the bill is.
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Sure.
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But either way, it doesn't matter.
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I don't understand what Jimmy's point is.
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And it is just a, Hey, let's kick the door on.
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Nice.
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Let's kick the door open for some fucking racism.
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All right.
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Well, I can tell you exactly what's going on and you're dead on.
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Look, there's you in documents before that there's a hundred year old called Kalergi
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plan in Europe and the royalty got together and they said, our people are too uppity.
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But if we bring in giant third world populations that we control and that we put on government
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jobs and government assistance, it'll be a new Praetorian guard for us.
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But it's worse than that.
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If you go back to the lockdowns that only went on for like a year and a half here or
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in Europe or Australia, they went on under IMF world bank control over those countries
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that are in deep debt to the central banks.
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They were under two, two and a half, three year lockdowns, and they did big polls of
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the migrants.
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And they said, there's no jobs.
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The farms are shut.
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The factories are shut.
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I'm starving to death.
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I've got to come here.
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So they're victims of globalism being shut down.
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And yeah, big polls.
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That makes sense.
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So pure and simple, Alex is regurgitating white nationalist talking points.
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He whipped out the Kalergi plan reference real fast.
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And that was interesting because man, he doesn't use that name much.
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I think that Alex knows on some level that using that name, the Kalergi plan is kind
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of signifying pretty clearly that you're a white nationalist or white nationalist adjacent.
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And I guess he's fine doing that here.
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I have a strong suspicion that what's going on is that Alex is subtly testing Jimmy.
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Alex very seldom uses that name, even when discussing his immigration related conspiracies.
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So it seems to me that this might be a bit of a trial balloon.
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If Jimmy shows awareness of this name and actually Kurt seemed to, then maybe they're
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on the same team as Alex.
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If Jimmy doesn't push back on him when he brings it up, Alex at very least has learned
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that he's talking to someone who has no idea about the history of these ideas that they're
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discussing.
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So he has free reign to just say whatever he wants.
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There's no such thing as the Kalergi plan.
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Richard Von Kudenhove Kalergi wrote a book called Practical Idealism, which speculated
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that in the future, distinctions between ethnic groups would disappear as cultures intermingled.
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This was repurposed by Nazis and white supremacists as being indicative of a plan to force non-white
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immigration into peoples to destroy the white race through forced intermingling.
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Right.
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In his text, Kalergi is wrestling with the differences in different sorts of population.
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Rural versus city dwellers, the junker versus the literati, the gentleman versus the bohemian,
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and in this particular section, the inbred versus the crossbred.
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Hey, good work buddy!
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Not great stuff all around.
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Nice timing!
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To be honest.
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You're gonna be great.
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So in that section he says, quote,
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Truthful people are always silent, because every claim is, in a sense, a lie.
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Pure-hearted people are always inactive, because every act is, in a sense, wrong.
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Okay.
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Bravery is but to speak when the risk is a lie.
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To do and to act risks injustice.
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Boo!
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Little poetic.
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Rewrite!
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This is still a quote.
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Okay.
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Inbreeding strengthens the character, weakens the spirit.
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What?
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Crossbreeding weakens the character, strengthens the mind.
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What?
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Where inbreeding and crossbreeding meet under happy auspices,
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they bear witness to the highest type of human being.
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The strongest character combines with the sharpest mind.
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Where inbreeding and mixture come together under unfortunate auspices,
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they create degenerative types of weak character and dull mind.
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Man will be hybrid in the distant future.
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Today's races are increasingly falling victim
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to the fact that space, time, and prejudice are being overcome.
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The Eurasian Negroid race of the future, outwardly similar to the ancient Egyptian,
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will replace the diversity of peoples with a variety of personalities.
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So anyway, clergy sucks, but in a different way than Alex and his wife's supremacist buddies say.
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Yeah.
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There also is no clergy playing, and I would bet anything Alex
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doesn't even know the name of that text, Practical Idealism.
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It's just a Nazi meme that he likes to spout while he waddles around pretending to be an intellectual.
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Yeah.
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Also, there was no real lockdown here, and it definitely didn't last a year and a half.
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Yeah.
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Certainly didn't last three, four years in these unspecified other countries either.
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So weird, Alex is never specific about any of that stuff.
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Almost like he's riffing on vibes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that guy should never have learned about those pea pods and how they breed and stuff.
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That was a bad move.
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Should have gotten into the Mendelevian.
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We should all have just been like, maybe let's not mess with it.
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Maybe let's not mess with it, because sooner or later,
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some asshole's gonna have some real bad ideas, and then here we are.
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And right about it, very flowery language-y.
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Wow.
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I mostly kept that part where...
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Because I thought it would annoy you.
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You thought it would kill me when...
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It did, it did.
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It broke my heart, yes.
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Yeah. So anyway, Alex weaves from this to a pretty racist conspiracy theory.
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All these blue cities have passed laws for illegals to vote in local elections.
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They're under the control...
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Why? We already won.
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Organizers, they're told how to vote.
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Now they get fast-tracked in the military.
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They purge the military with the shots and critical race theory.
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What?
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And so all the professionals get out.
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Critical race theory?
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And now they're gonna replace it with the domestic security force that Obama talked
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about that's just as big and just as strong as our military.
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And Illinois and other states are passing laws to have illegal aliens,
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as your co-host said, be the police.
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So you nailed it.
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History doesn't just rhyme, it repeats.
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Rome started doing this, and in a couple hundred years, they collapsed,
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because the enforcers they brought in said, hey, we're the bosses.
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Well, this won't take hundreds of years.
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So we talked about this on a recent show,
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but all these blue cities aren't legalizing undocumented immigrants voting in local elections.
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There are a couple of places that have made it so non-citizen permanent residents can vote
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in things like the school board election, where their kids go to school.
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Yeah.
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Racist lie number one.
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Yeah.
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These non-citizen residents are not under the sway of community organizers who tell
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them how to vote for school board elections.
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Racist lie number two.
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No one's getting fast-tracked to the military.
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Racist lie number three.
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What does that even mean?
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I don't know.
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They aren't purging the military through vaccines and critical race theory to
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remove the professionals so they can be replaced by immigrants.
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Racist lie number four.
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How would you purge the military with critical race theory?
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Just as your only tool, all right?
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You've got a military, let's video game this, right?
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You've got a military, 15% needs purging, all right?
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Your only tool, critical race theory.
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How do you do it?
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Um, I don't, damn it.
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I can't pull a good reference, but you just chase people around the room with a book,
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I guess, by one of the people who wrote about critical race theory.
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All right, so you start with the TV show Ghost Rider.
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Yes.
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All right.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I don't know.
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I mean, it's just buzzwords.
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Yep.
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Obama's domestic force was stuff like the Peace Corps, the Trump Corps.
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Yeah, I was going to say, wasn't that like...
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It wasn't police and military.
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Is it like volunteer to help at grocery stores sometimes, I guess?
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That's just the propaganda narrative that Alex has fraudulently been peddling for a
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decade, racist lie number five.
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Yeah.
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No one is passing laws to allow undocumented immigrants to be police.
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There are conversations about how it makes some sense to allow non-citizen permanent
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residents to be allowed to pursue careers in law enforcement, which is a very different
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thing, racist lie number six.
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Yeah.
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As you can see in that short 45-second clip, Alex spews out six distinct lies that are
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all based on fake racist and xenophobic propaganda.
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This is what his entire point is based on, and all Kurt and Jimmy can do is impotently
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nod along and let their audience digest this as if it's real.
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This is either an indication that they're dangerously ill-equipped to have the conversations
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that they're having, or they belong on fucking Infowars.
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So they're the same thing.
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Yeah, I'm just so confused by the show aspect of this.
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I think that's what I keep coming back to is like, okay, I'm fine with the idea that
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they've got Alex on to do the thing.
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I'm not understanding how it is that you're supposed to be Jimmy Dore and Kurt Metzger
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and your best show is like, yeah, totally.
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I don't know if this is their best show.
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I mean, it looks like they're doing their best.
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I don't see a lot of effort being exerted.
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Well, I think that might be our problem.
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That is true.
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Yeah, you know what, though, you let Alex come in, you let him carry it.
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He's a ball of energy.
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Is this their off day?
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Are they taking the day off?
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They're like, oh, we got Alex in so I can rest my voice.
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They're all drinking tea and shit.
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Maybe.
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Maybe.
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So we get to climate change.
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Why?
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Why not?
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Okay.
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And this is lowering the standards, not helping the third world, but lowering them and lowering
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us again so no one can aspire to the big carbon footprint.
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Austerity is good.
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Humans are bad.
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Cows are evil.
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We've got to get rid of them.
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The cow farts are bad.
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Well, we fart, too.
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And I said that years ago.
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I said, when they're done going after the cows, which they've started, Netherlands is
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getting rid of a bunch.
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Ireland, you name it.
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Sri Lanka, massive star.
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Ireland, you name it.
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Notice what I said.
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Next will be our breath is bad.
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Wall Street Journal, New York Times, USA Today, London Guardian all two weeks ago said breathing
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is bad for the Earth.
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No, the gases we put off hold actually in the sun.
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We're off gassing into space.
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We hold in the sun.
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That's the point.
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You can debate this all day, but they know that's how it works.
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So now they've officially said breathing is bad.
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Well, whales breathe, dolphins breathe, chipmunks breathe, birds breathe, lizards breathe.
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Give five more examples.
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So imagine the mania.
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Two men can have a baby.
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There are no longer Y and X chromosomes.
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Three men can have a baby.
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Bill Nye the Science Guy teaches that officially.
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Your breath is evil.
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Also, human farts.
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They all say about human farting, not just cows, right?
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You have to buy fart credits.
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Yeah, Kurt, we heard for the year.
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And I know this is all exhausting, folks, but that's why I'm so freaked out.
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Can't believe you talked over comedy happening.
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Yeah, he has fart credits for the year.
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Good stuff.
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So I guess Jimmy and Kurt are on the side of climate change being a hoax.
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Yes, that's what Alex is telling them.
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They're laughing.
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What are we even doing now?
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I don't know.
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So Alex's hold.
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They're saying breathing is bad is based on a Daily Mail headline he skimmed, which is
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about an article published in the PLOS One journal titled, quote, measurements of methane
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and nitrous oxide in human breath and the development of UK scale emissions.
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The aim of the study was to get an idea of the scale of human breath emissions by assessing
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104 volunteers.
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One part of it was looking at emissions, but another part was seeing if there was any difference
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between demographic groups or between people who had different dietary patterns.
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They found no differences between these groups that was significant.
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Ultimately, here's what their conclusion found.
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Quote, while emissions of CH4 and N2O account for only 0.05 and 0.1% of total emissions
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in the UK national greenhouse gas inventories respectively, we would urge caution that the
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assumption that emissions from humans are negligible.
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We report only emissions in breath in this study, and flatness emissions are likely to
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increase these values significantly, though no literature characterizes these emissions
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for people in the UK.
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Assuming that livestock and other wild animals also exhale emissions of N2O, there may be
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a small but significant unaccounted for source of N2O emissions in the UK, which could account
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for more than 1% of national scale emissions.
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Naturally, there were a ton of publications that are desperate for clicks like the Daily
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Mail, so they really zeroed in on that line, quote, we would urge caution in the assumption
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that emissions from humans are negligible, because that's the part that drives attention
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cycles for climate denying fabulous like Alex, which in turn drives traffic to their sensational
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ass articles.
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Even at their highest estimate, they're saying around 1% of national emissions may come from
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human exhalation, which isn't a significant thing.
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Human breathing is, first of all, necessary to life, whereas burning fossil fuels is not,
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strictly speaking, necessary.
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In theory, human CO2 production is almost exactly offset by the amount of CO2 we take
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in, in the form of the products of photosynthesis like plants and animals that were fed with
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plants.
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There's a difference between CO2 emissions, which aren't necessarily bad, and excessive
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CO2 emissions, which are bad.
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Alex knows there's a difference between those two, but he uses sensationalized and inaccurate
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coverage of Daily Mail articles like this in order to blur those lines to the audience,
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because if they understood the difference, they'd probably see through his ridiculous
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farce of an argument.
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So I guess Jimmy and Kurt don't believe in climate change.
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It sounds like they're on board for trans people not existing, but pretty difficult
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to find any position that Jimmy has that's even remotely close to any kind of left politics
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that I recognize.
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Seems like he's kind of just a Trump guy who doesn't want to be called that.
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Oh, man.
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I mean, maybe he has some progressive thoughts on Rome's government that we are looking
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over.
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You know, like, he's like, hey, oh, I wish Rome had been more progressive.
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And so since they weren't Trump, that makes sense.
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Well, the thing that was great about Rome's government was that they weren't bogged down
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by this climate change, rigmarole, red tape hoax.
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Oh my God.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I appreciate, because here's what I didn't see it coming.
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All right.
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I appreciate that the climate deniers are still hanging on.
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2003, 2005, you know, you got people bringing snowballs into the Congress.
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That was cool.
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And you go, wow, I bet this will be fine 20 years from now when we all are like, ha ha,
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that guy's stupid.
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But now they're just like, eh, we're going to bring a snowball everywhere.
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That's what they are.
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They just do that until we all die.
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I'm fine with that.
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And then Fox News will have a little video of a snowball.
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Yeah, they'll be like, remember these?
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Remember snowballs?
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Those are nice.
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Alex continues with his climate stuff, and it leads to a predictable place.
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Sure.
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I've known about this 40 years because I had family that told me about it from the inside.
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And now I'm just some guy up here trying to warn people I'm not perfect.
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And I'm just talking about I'm not the threat, Jimmy's not the threat, Tucker
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Carlson's not the threat.
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We at least know we live here.
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We at least know that you can't have nuclear reactors, almost all of them, leaking while
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you cut off all the coal power.
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Alex was paused and was a little confused there because he doesn't really know if he
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should be pro or anti-nuclear power.
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Yeah, I'm interested to know where they stand on that because I feel like they flip-flop
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an awful lot.
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He is very against cutting off nuclear power plants in his book, but he didn't write that
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book.
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So I'm not sure with Alex.
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No, that'll happen.
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We know the ship is sinking, and they think they're going to sink it with the great reset
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and then build back better their new system.
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And so, again, I'll plug it because they're trying to shut me down.
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I need the funds, and I appreciate you letting me do it.
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Plus, these are really good books.
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This went to number one.
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New York Times wouldn't put it in their bestseller, but it went to number one, Wall Street Journal,
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US at A-list.
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This book has been the top of the charts.
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It's part two.
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It's twice as thick.
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You've got the Death Star plans, the great reset and the war for the world.
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And then you've got the great awakening, defeating the globalists.
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Awakening, defeating the globalists, this gets into it, and this lays out an alternate
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team humanity program.
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I was on with Elon Musk, again, a few weeks ago for two and a half hours.
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Oh, yeah?
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And he said, yeah, the globalists want to depopulate us.
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They want to destroy civilization.
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We may never be able to restart it once they cut it off.
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Fossil fuels aren't perfect.
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We need to phase them out, but they're a bridge.
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It'll take decades to do it.
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What they're doing now, I've looked at the numbers with Elon Musk, will cause billions
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to starve to death, and that'll cause giant wars.
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That sounds like you.
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He's an idiot.
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And so are you.
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We should call this team humanity versus team death cult.
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And he said, I agree.
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Let's call it team humanity.
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Well, team humanity is in this book, and I hope people will go to infowarsstore.com
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and get it.
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So I really hope this is just paid programming and Jimmy got money to do this interview,
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because otherwise he looks like a fucking idiot getting steamrolled.
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He better be getting paid for this.
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Also, because it's fun, Alex's book never made it on any bestseller list.
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It was at the top of Amazon for a short period of time, but quickly dropped.
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As for his new book, Alex has been complaining on air that he can't even sell the first run
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that he ordered.
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So I imagine people just didn't want a book that was twice as thick.
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Like, if you're using the first one to level out your coffee table, a thicker book will
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just put it out of balance again.
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You know, it's not wise.
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Just because I'm petty, I went back and I looked at the Wall Street Journal's bestseller
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list, because that's what Alex brought up.
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Yes.
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They've recently stopped that feature, but Alex's Great Reset came out in August 20th,
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2022.
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So that's in a time period where the sales were covered.
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You can look at it.
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That week, spelljammer Adventures in Space topped the hardcover nonfiction list.
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Wizards of the Coast.
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Okay.
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But Tim Scott and Paul Manafort had titles in the top 10, so it's clear there's no political
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slant against conservatives.
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Wait, they put, like, Dungeon Strategy Guide?
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It's in the hardcover nonfiction section.
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Well, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, that's cool.
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Not all bestseller lists do, and I think some might compartmentalize it off to another list.
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I think that's cool, and I think it's deserved.
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That's what I think, yeah.
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So the next week, still no Alex.
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But Jared Kushner's book, Breaking History, a White House Memoir, was number one in the
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hardcover nonfiction.
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So it looks like there's no squashing of Trump voices here.
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Jared Kushner?
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He wrote a book.
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Wow.
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So then, on September 3rd, Alex finally pops in at number two, behind Jeanette McCurdy's
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book I'm Glad My Mom Died.
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The next week, September 10th, Alex should have some kind of, like, really good pre-9-11
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buzz going, but oops, he dropped down to number nine, then disappeared from the list altogether.
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He had that little blip because every audience member he had that was gonna buy the book
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bought it at the same time, and it was good enough for number two.
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That's a kind of unbalanced path that really doesn't indicate that much global interest
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in a piece of media, which you can compare with something like McCurdy's book.
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By January 2023, she was still at number three, and her book had been released two weeks before
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Alex's.
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That was a genuine hit, whereas Alex's book was a desperate cash grab that he didn't even
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write, and the sales figures represent that.
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The second reason his book didn't make any of those lists isn't because of censorship,
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but probably because people bought the first one and they were underwhelmed with the second
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book.
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Yeah, it's tough.
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That book sucked.
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And Alex's information isn't that interesting when a coked out weirdo isn't yelling it at
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you.
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That really goes a long way towards making any of this palatable.
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It really does.
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Yeah.
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It really does.
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You didn't even read his book.
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I don't need to.
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So you don't even know the difference.
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Don't even know how bad it is.
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I read one sentence from a distance.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So Alex, he has his book.
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Sure.
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He's showing it.
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He's showing the book.
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And Jimmy catches a little something.
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Uh-oh.
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Who is the co-author of that Great Awakening?
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Uh-oh.
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Kit Heckin' Lively.
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Great guy.
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I mean, what happened is I recorded a bunch of stuff, gave him hundreds of articles and
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documents, really thousands.
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It was 800 pages long when I'd written it.
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I said it like...
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Kit and their lawyers.
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He's a lawyer, too, because, you know, I'm Alex Jones.
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They fact-checked everything.
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And there was one thing I put in the book...
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Wait a second.
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We had to pause it for a second.
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Yeah.
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Alex is saying they checked it over because I'm Alex Jones.
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He's recognizing that no one believes his shit.
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No one believes the thing I say.
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Right.
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They had to double-check it because it's me.
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Because I'm Alex Jones.
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Even twice as right as I knew it always was.
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That's interesting.
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That they couldn't prove.
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It was theoretical, the story of you put fleas in a jar and they learn they can't jump out
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of it.
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And then once you take them out of the jar, they never jump higher than the jar.
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And I thought it was a good allegory, but I put it in the book like it was true.
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Turned out, no one can prove it ever happened, but it's a good theoretical analogy.
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That was the one thing out of 800 pages that they couldn't prove everything else.
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They vetted everything.
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Of course, that got cut from the book.
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And it got cut to 400 pages.
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But this is kind of stream of consciousness.
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Alex Jones, The Great Awakening.
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This is what I actually say.
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A lot of people are going to watch this.
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Millions.
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I bet 10 million.
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I got to pause it again because I didn't realize when I first was listening through this, he
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was saying that that flea story is the one thing that got cut out of the book.
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But also 400 pages got cut.
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What else was in there?
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No, he said it was 400 pages.
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No, he said it was 800 pages when he gave it to Kent.
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No shit.
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That's what he said.
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Oh, but that doesn't count.
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That was all printed out articles that fucking Twitter me.
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Or he's just rambling audio notes that he sent to him.
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But still, that's 400 pages worth of stuff.
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And I guarantee there's other complete bullshit that was in there.
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If you consider what kind of bullshit made it in, holy shit, the cutting room floor has
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got to be bad.
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I don't want to be there.
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No.
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No.
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People watch this the next week and they're going to say, I never knew this guy talked
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about all this because all they see and they're going to do this.
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They're going to take me talking about Willie Nelson's spit and that'll be the story.
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Instead of Zuckerberg and the WEF say, we're going to control you in the workplace reading
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your thoughts.
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I mean, people should know that they're collectively building a digital prison.
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We're already in it.
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Man, Alex can't finish a thought.
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I paused it a little bit.
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So it probably took away some of the ways.
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It felt like this is just jumping from A to B to C to D.
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He's in mid-season form.
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And by that, I mean he's high on something.
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Yeah.
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I have a strong suspicion that Jimmy asked Alex about Kent because he knows who Kent
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is.
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And Jimmy may have wanted to talk some COVID vaccine conspiracies, but instead, here we
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go.
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And Alex is off to the races because they were Kent Hick and Lively.
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It's co-writer with Judy.
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Judy Mikovits and the vaccine.
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And yeah.
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Yeah.
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So there's so much untrue stuff in Alex's book.
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The idea that a legal team vetted it is hilarious.
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Number one.
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And the idea that the only thing they couldn't stand behind was some dumb shit about a flea
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jumping.
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That's just amazing.
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Ah.
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You can find my book-length breakdown of Alex's stupid book and the things he's very wrong
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and lying about at alexjonesisanidiot.com.
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Also, because I'm petty, Kent wrote those books, many times slipping into the first
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person and saying things Alex would absolutely never say.
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It's a sloppy mess of a book desperate for an author.
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Yeah.
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Also, because I'm very petty, Alex is a little bit off in his prediction for how many people
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would watch Jimmy's interview.
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As of this recording, a week after it was posted to Jimmy's YouTube page, it has 474,000
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views.
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Not bad.
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That's a lot more than I would hope.
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But significantly lower than Alex's prediction and a ton of Jimmy's videos, like the 727,000
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that his interview with Tucker got.
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Yeah.
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And because I'm insanely petty, here is the oldest clip, or a clip from the oldest video
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on Jimmy Dore's channel where he's making fun of somebody who is a climate denier.
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Right now we're going to talk about, so you know how the Oh My God goes, I play something
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from Religious Nut and then we make fun of it.
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This is from Brian Fisher.
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We've had him on the show before, Brian Fisher.
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He's the Director of Issues Analysis of the Conservative Fundamentalist American Family
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Asshole Association.
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And on Thursday, he had an expert to come on and talk about fossil fuels.
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And let's have some fun.
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Here we go.
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Let me just connect that to a biblical parable.
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The parable of the talents.
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You know, the unfaithful steward, the wicked and lazy steward, as the master calls him,
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was the one who buried his talent in the ground and didn't do anything with it to multiply
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it.
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That's essentially what those who say we need to stop using oil, coal, and natural gas are
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telling us to do.
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Just leave those resources buried in the ground rather than pulling them out and multiplying
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their value for human benefit.
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Yeah, that's what they're saying, because when you pull them out of the ground for human
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benefit, it releases carbon into the air and causes climate change.
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And it's a real dirty way to create energy.
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That would be why.
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The guy who's saying stuff.
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Has he ever been funny?
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But also, that guy was saying stuff that Alex believes.
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Yeah, I mean, well, yeah.
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That's very similar, almost identical, actually, to what Alex believes.
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Yeah, we've heard him say something almost identical.
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And it's very close to the thing that Alex just said to him about how we need to off
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gas and all of this stuff.
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He just didn't go as far as maybe he would say in another place, which is God put it
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there for us to find to terraform or, you know, what's it called?
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Terraform.
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Yeah, in order to save the world by burning excess CO2.
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So anyway, maybe Alex's position is actually dumber than the one that is in this oldest
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clip on Jimmy's YouTube channel.
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Yeah, yeah, man, that's dark.
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Time is a mean mother.
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Yep, but it does prove you don't get funnier.
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Yeah, yeah, Sinbad's quote is always going to, you're funnier when you ride the bus.
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Sinbad's always going to be right about that.
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Yep, praise.
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What was that?
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I was giving it up to Sinbad.
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Okay, so Alex gives it up to Jimmy himself by extension, because they're both, like,
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right all the time and they always provide sources for things.
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So Jimmy just showed everything he said, he showed you a clip or an article.
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And I try to do the same thing on my show.
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And maybe our interpretation is wrong.
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The point is, we're right about more than we're wrong.
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I would say I watch your show all the time, 95% accurate.
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I'm 95% accurate.
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And that's really a pretty accurate number, folks, because stuff's so wild, I wouldn't
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even need to think about making stuff up.
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I mean, here's a quick example.
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Three years ago, Bill Gates files a patent for this nanotech that puts little microscopic
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spikes into your skin to track you and or deliver vaccines.
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They had articles saying it wasn't true, and they weren't planning that even though
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it was official.
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He came out last week and officially said they're launching the technology, but spun
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it like it's no big deal.
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And he says, you know, the thing is, we're going to put vaccines in your food.
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So you basically will comply because you won't know any better.
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Like a cow.
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So again, this is what Max Blumenthal told us about it.
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So yeah, he did.
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And he did.
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Bill Gates was talking about putting mRNA into our plants.
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And so you don't have to worry about vaccines.
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That's what he was saying.
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That's not what I'm saying.
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So I'm glad these guys are so researched and they're still on the ball and right all
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the time.
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Like 95% is a very accurate number.
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It makes it really reassuring to listen to them because I know they're really good at
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this and they're right all the time and they're basing their points on facts.
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So I can just turn off my brain and critical thinking skills.
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I can just trust they have it covered and really enjoy myself.
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What's this now?
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Bill Gates wants to put mRNA into the food.
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I better look into this one.
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It's a little too serious to take just on faith.
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Oh my God, I Googled it and I found this tweet that Bill Gates posted that says, quote,
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vaccines in our food supplies solves the problem of vaccine hesitancy.
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Oh my God, he does want to put mRNA in our food.
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That's what the image of this tweet says.
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It, this, this picture, it says, quote, Bill Gates vows to pump RNA into food supply to
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force jab the unvaccinated.
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That's certainly written like the facsimile of an actual headline.
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So I probably should believe it.
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Oh, wait, that's a fake tweet that someone photoshopped that's circulating on right-wing
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social media.
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Oh man, this is just a link to an article on Robert Malone's insane sub stack.
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Ah, shit.
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It looks like maybe Jimmy didn't have a source on this one.
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I'm sure he's like 95%, right?
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This is just one of those few cases that he, you know, it's not.
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To the extent that any of this has any connection to reality, there are promising potentials
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in mRNA technology in terms of livestock vaccinations.
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There's no way that that could then vaccinate you by eating vaccinated animals though.
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That's stupid.
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But then again, clearly Jimmy's pretty stupid.
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This happens all the time.
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Like a couple months back Gates had invented, quote, an air vaccine to force vaccinate people.
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But guess what?
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That was bullshit too.
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But this information economy relies on a constant flow of scary and exciting claims to survive.
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So it will never stop.
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Also, Alex is making up that stuff about Bill Gates getting a patent for like nanotech spikes.
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This was a patent, it was numbered 060606, which is actually 666, which of course is
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the devil.
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Alex's example for how everything is so crazy that he doesn't need to make things up is
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in fact a made up thing, which is poetry.
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Eh, I think it's appropriate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Appropri-mity.
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I, I am amazed, I'm amazed that like, despite the fact that they know they don't know anything
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about science, like I know I don't know anything about science.
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I'm not acting like, oh, they're putting mRNA in the, I don't know fundamentally what that
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means.
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Like they're putting mRNA in a thing.
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And you cannot explain to me what that means in a way that will make it mean something.
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Right.
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Like mRNA is what?
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Are you talking about the type of RNA?
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Are you talking about a vaccine?
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What vaccine?
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What chemicals?
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Is that chemical going to then interact?
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Does it give me antibodies?
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Does it not give me antibodies?
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Is it ingestible?
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Is it through the skin?
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Like none of what you say means anything.
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Number one, it's tasty.
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Number two.
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Now, now we're talking.
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So in their world, they are of the belief that these cows or animals can be given some
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sort of an mRNA thing that will alter their DNA and then make it so when you eat them,
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it will also alter your DNA.
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It's all a load of shit.
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It's all, I, I get, I get what you're saying though.
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Like I, I also don't understand science on the deep level that a scientist does.
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And I understand that, and typically a lot of my understanding about these things has
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to do with you made a claim, I'm going to follow it up.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to go wherever you're pointing to and see what the shit is there.
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Right.
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And I can say fairly confidently that I have no faith in their understanding of anything.
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Yeah.
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That's good enough at the moment.
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But for me, for me, that's where they get, that's where I get so mad at them.
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All right, is because if you're going to invent science and then use it dumbly, that makes
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that bums me out.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So if you're saying that they can give mRNA to a cow, which will alter its DNA and then
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us eating that cow will alter our DNA.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Now I don't give a fuck about vaccines at that point.
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You have introduced the power to feed a cow something that will alter its DNA.
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And then I will have my DNA altered.
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You have just entered into a realm of, I should be able to glow now.
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Right now.
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I want to glow.
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It is a bit magical.
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If I don't glow, fuck you.
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Put that on your pipe and smoke.
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That is my argument for vaccines.
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Speaking of science.
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I can't glow.
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I just saw a clip the other day of Brett Weinstein, the professor who got mad at the like, no
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white people on campus day thing.
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Sure.
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And it became a right wing celebrity.
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Yeah.
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He, uh, you know, he's a big, uh, COVID vaccine, uh, opponent now.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah.
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You, you fall into a gig like that, you know, he was just on Tucker and he was saying 17
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million people have been killed by the COVID vaccine.
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17 million.
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Remarkable.
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That's that really should, like, if you're a scientist, when you say that you should
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get to mug to the camera, like there should be a moment where you turn and you're like
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17 million.
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Aren't I a stinker?
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You know, cause like you're foolish, you know, you're foolish.
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You kind of have to, you know, kind of have to know that, you know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we have, uh, this next clip goes into the anti-vax.
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So it's appropriate, I guess.
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Sure.
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Um, I'm going to give a trigger warning in advance of this clip because Alex, uh, yells
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the word rape repeatedly and it's unpleasant and, uh, I do not don't care for it much,
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but the underlying point that he's making is something that's worth, uh, talking about.
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I was on Joe Rogan a few years ago and I said the majority of polio is caused by the
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polio vaccine.
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And Joe said, Alex, I'm fact checking that right now.
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That's, I can't believe it pulls up AP Reuters headline again.
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I'm not saying rape is good of children.
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It's terrible.
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It's horrible.
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We fight it all the time.
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But if I was a child, I would rather be raped than be given polio and paralyzed for life
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or killed.
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So they're raping people with stuff that's killing them.
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So this is rape and, and, and the UN treaty to take over our bodies and our medical system
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is rape and systems to scan our brains at the office is invasion of privacy and rape.
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If your boss wanted to stick their finger up your butt, you would, he would go to jail.
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He, he would be sued.
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But if they want to stick their fingers in your brain, it's okay.
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Well, I think I, I think I have to say that, uh, the polio vaccine, Kurt, is safe and effective.
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And, uh, all vaccines are, especially the COVID vaccine, which slows the spread.
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And it certainly does slow the spread.
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Look at that spread slowing.
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Look at it.
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It works.
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No, no, actually.
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Yeah.
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It's all no one search engine.
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Majority of new polio cases caused by vaccine.
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That's not, that's no, it's actually true.
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But you're right.
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You can't even say something's true because we're not a Dr. Fauci.
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Oh man.
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So I guess Jimmy and Kurt are also totally anti-vaxxed.
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Are we doing this?
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I didn't realize that.
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I thought it was, they just had some kind of like dumb COVID tyranny kind of thing,
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but I guess Jimmy's just gobbling his bullshit up and signing off on Alex's really dangerous
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and offensive rant.
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That's really bad.
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So Alex is so goddamn full of shit.
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Leaving aside the rank flippancy about rape, there's a little piece of information that
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he's conveniently not saying about the polio vaccine.
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In 1988, there were approximately 350,000 wild cases just that year in 125 countries.
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Because of the vaccine's wide availability, there were six reported cases of wild cases
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in 2021.
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There are only two countries in the world where there's still wild polio that's not been
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eradicated, which are Pakistan and Afghanistan.
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And even their cases are super uncommon, thanks to vaccination programs.
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Alex knows that.
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He knows that the polio vaccination campaign is one of the greatest achievements of modern
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medicine.
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And he knows that this most cases are caused by the vaccine.
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There's a fraudulent talking point that he uses to attack vaccination.
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He knows that the words most cases are caused by vaccines is true, but he also knows damn
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well that he's lying by omitting the surrounding context, which he omits because it illustrates
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how wrong his overall point is.
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Also, in these cases where the vaccine is leading to a case of polio, it's often not
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the person who got vaccinated that is getting polio.
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The live weakened virus version of the vaccine can in some cases lead to people spreading
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that weakened virus.
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In well vaccinated communities, this isn't a problem.
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However, to quote the polio eradication project, quote, in communities with low immunization
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rates, as the virus spreads from one unvaccinated child to another over a long period of time,
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often over the course of 12 to 18 months, it can mutate and take on a form that can
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cause paralysis, just like the wild polio virus.
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This mutated polio virus can then spread in communities leading to circulating vaccine
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derived polio virus.
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This is not difficult to understand, which is why Alex lies about it the way he does.
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Alex attacks the polio vaccine not because it's giving tons of people polio, but because
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it was so effective at protecting people from polio, particularly the people Alex would
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rather see dead, like folks in the developing world.
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I understand where Alex is coming from and his lie is really transparent, but what the
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hell do Jimmy and Kurt think?
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Do they really think the polio vaccine is bad because in 2020 there were 959 reported
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cases of vaccine derived polio in the whole world?
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I find it difficult to really believe they don't understand this dynamic, so there's
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really only two options.
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The first is that they are fully committed to this anti-vax propaganda world and they're
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comfortable lying about this stuff the same way Alex is.
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The second is that they're the types of people who are so irresponsible with information
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that they can hear someone say most polio cases are caused by the vaccine and have their
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mind blown to the point where they don't read any further context or information to make
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up their mind.
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Either way, this show is fucking dumb.
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And it's dumb in ways that I didn't even realize.
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Like, I thought Jimmy was kind of, like, it seemed weird to me the ways that he had presented
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himself as, you know, kind of this left-leaning guy and then, oh, what's this?
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He's showing up at, like, anti-mask rallies.
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Yeah, I thought he was a shithead.
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Oh, what's this?
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He's really mad at the schools.
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Oh, what's this?
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He's showing up on Tucker.
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You know, I thought there was some of this stuff that he was appealing to a different
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audience and it seemed like, I understand the move.
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I got it.
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And I'm listening to this and he just seems to be signing off on, like, some of the worst
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things that Alex is signing off on.
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You know, it's beyond what I thought the situation was.
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He seems like he's worse than I thought.
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Well, it makes me believe that there's a language that we're not hearing.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, it makes me believe that something's going on that these people are listening to
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that we're not because I just can't get inside the head of a person who is responding to
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what Alex says.
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Like, I genuinely feel like they're like, Alex may be speaking French.
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I think the thing that they're hearing that we're not is, ka-ching.
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Well, maybe, maybe.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to...
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No, no, no, that's it.
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I mean, yeah, but even if that's what you're hearing, how do you respond to what Alex says
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like this with the words you're, you know?
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I don't know.
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Like, what do you feel?
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Like, I want to know what they're actually, what sounds hit their ears and turn into words
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because I don't know.
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I imagine that Jimmy sees a, like, a broadening of his audience when he's doing, like, anti-vex
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content and that leads him to pursue more of that.
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I wouldn't be too surprised by that.
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I just didn't realize it was this much.
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Yeah.
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Like, he's, I mean, in this interview, to the extent that there's information about it,
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I'm not sure what his landing point is on it, but he's turned his position on immigration.
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He seems to be spouting anti-Semitic Rothschild conspiracies.
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Full on anti-vex.
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No vexes, period.
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Climate change, denialism at least, tepid denialism, not pushing back on anything Alex
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is saying.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I think he's much further down this road than I had imagined, honestly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that is, and it's so strange with stuff that it seems like you simply can't go backwards
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on.
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You know, like, if you were alive and politically active and aware when an idiot brought a snowball
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into Congress, and then now it's now, you can't be like, yeah, these people think...
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You can't do that.
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You just can't.
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Right.
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You know, you just can't.
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But then again...
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You can lie about it, and if you lie about it, you should have to be in like a cordoned
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off area, like a free speech zone, if you will, and that should be on the moon.
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I mean, the uncomfortable reality is maybe we have to deal with the possibility that
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he was lying before.
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I mean, he was the person who spit in Alex's face.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I mean, that's...
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Maybe this is more to where he...
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know the man.
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Maybe it's just people who do the...
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Okay.
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People like Jimmy, like Alex, people who do the stuff just are...
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They're miners.
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They go to where the gold is.
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Oh, I thought you meant they're underage.
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No, no.
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Yeah, they go to where gold is, you know?
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They just follow the money.
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That's it.
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So...
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I think a lot of people are that way.
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Yeah.
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We're bad miners.
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I think that's what we're really dealing with.
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I never aspired to be a miner.
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Yeah, I know.
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And maybe that's a mistake.
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The miners are doing all right right now.
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So, Alex, you brought up Fauci at the end there.
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Sure.
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A little riffing on Fauci.
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Little Fauci.
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Dr. Fauci, did you see the clip of him that resurfaced where he said,
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we're gonna get past all the BS?
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He said, he spelled it out.
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He said, we're gonna get past the BS by locking people down, and that'll teach him,
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and then they'll drop the BS, take the shot.
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It's all coercion, people.
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And that's called bullying.
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So, yeah, I mean, I can't say anything that contradicts the FDA, the CDC, or the WHO.
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And that's normal in a democracy, by the way.
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And that's normal in a democracy.
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I look down on China, frankly, because they don't have freedom.
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Man, these guys are having fun making money,
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saying all the things they're pretending they're not allowed to say.
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Haha.
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Anyway, Alex, this thing about Fauci isn't really accurate.
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So in an interview he did with MSNBC, he said,
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quote, you use lockdowns to get people vaccinated so that when you open up,
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you won't have a huge surge of infections because you're dealing with an immunologically
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naive population to the virus because they've not really been exposed because of the lockdown.
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Oh, you're calling us stupid, aren't you?
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There's a difference between this and what Alex is claiming,
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but also it's important to recognize that he was answering a direct question from
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Andrea Mitchell who said, quote, how concerning is the outbreak in China?
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It was part of a much longer answer that was critical of China's zero
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COVID lockdown strategy, essentially the opposite of what Alex is saying
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when it's actually in its proper context, but it looks good.
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You know, it's enough.
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He is saying that you use lockdowns to get people vaccinated.
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Boom, bada-bing.
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What do you got?
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Fauci.
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You know what I find so fascinating?
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What I find so fascinating is that right now we're in the second highest surge of COVID cases,
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reported COVID cases, and the government, as far as I can tell, is behaving exactly how
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Alex and them would want the government to behave, right?
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Yeah, but that's why you attack more.
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No, but that's what I find interesting about that is that they're not going,
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oh, well, now is the time when we should be more aware of health.
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They're not being defiant in the way that you would expect
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if it's just always a knee-jerk opposition.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, because it's a push further kind of opposition.
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It's an opposition in a different direction.
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I mean, yeah.
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It's like, well, this time we're doing nothing like you asked us to, and you're still mad?
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And this doing nothing is actually secretly a plan to lock us back up again.
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Yeah, at that point, yeah.
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Yeah, man, where there's no escape.
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Do nothing, do something, doesn't matter.
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It is true.
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Well, yeah, I mean, I think so much of the context does surround the fact that it's been years.
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Yeah.
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I think that that...
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I don't know.
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I don't know if the government did nothing to begin with.
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I don't know if Alex's knee-jerk reaction would be,
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hey, everyone needs to take this very seriously.
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It was for a minute, but I don't know if that would have been sustained.
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Who knows?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, that's...
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There's no going back to it now, is what I'm saying.
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Yeah.
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It's been years and...
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What I think, what I'm listening to is maybe for me,
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now is when the government really focusing on COVID and vaccines and all that stuff
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would go a long way towards protecting against the next anti-vaxxer kind of thing.
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You know, now is when you have to do the grunt work when people aren't paying attention,
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when everybody's not panicking all the time.
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I think you're probably right.
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Yeah.
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And it is an unfortunate reality, though, that these people have cemented their views.
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And the COVID vaccine is the clot shot and all this stuff.
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And they're just making up excuses to cover up for how everyone's dying because of the shot.
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Here, listen to this.
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Yes.
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The mRNA shot works perfectly.
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Yes.
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It actually cures myocarditis.
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There might be side effects.
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It's climate change doing it.
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But they are rare.
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What?
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It will keep you from getting seriously ill, hospitalize or death.
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Did you hear about Holiday Heart?
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All the articles that everybody's suddenly having heart attacks.
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It's quite normal.
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No, Holiday Heart?
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It's probably from the holidays.
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That's what the Grinch got?
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The Grinch got at the end?
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He called it Holiday Heart.
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Comedy is happening.
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I just have to show you the reach of Bill Gates, who funds the WHO.
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And I'm on YouTube and Google, and I'm not allowed to contradict them, which means I'm
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not allowed to contradict Bill Gates, who's just a simple farmer.
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And so Bill Gates is my doctor.
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I love the fact that he used to sell crappy software and got busted for running a monopoly
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and was loading stuff onto it to control me.
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No, I want him to be in charge of my life.
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I love Bill Gates.
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So the term Holiday Heart was coined in 1978 to describe incidents of heart attacks that
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people had around the holidays that were directly related to heavy drinking.
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Alex is pretending this is a new thing that's meant to cover up COVID vaccine deaths because
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he's a fucking idiot.
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But these dudes, man, they are having a blast.
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You're asking, like, where their comedic riffing chops are gonna be?
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It's when the Bill Gates stuff starts.
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I find sarcasm to be best used when, like, very short bursts, because if you're trying
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to be sarcastic for a long sentence, you're just complaining.
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You're not even being sarcastic.
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You're literally you're just complaining that you don't like things.
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Yeah, and to be fair, I'll even point the finger back at myself earlier when I did that
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whole thing about Bill Gates wanting to put mRNA in our food and I pretended to be someone
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looking.
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That was a sustained character bit.
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Sure, sure.
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But I mean, the problem is, in that situation, you're adopting a character and playing that
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character as a thing.
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The character was inconsistent, though, at best.
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That is fair.
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If we want to have a debriefing on this.
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I didn't do a Bible on the character.
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I didn't know who this person was.
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Right, right, right.
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It's the homework.
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The homework is the real issue.
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The best I knew was a Jimmy Dore listener.
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That was as far as it went.
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So look.
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Yeah.
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Here's where my notes end.
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Because this is where we couldn't listen.
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Shit gets crazy.
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No, shit gets crazy for a while.
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And then I said, fuck you.
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Okay.
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But there's still a ways to go.
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Oh, my God.
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So, okay.
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My notes ended because I don't really care about taking this seriously.
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Yeah, we're past that.
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There is the stuff about, like, Black Rock and, you know, there are things that are real.
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Yeah.
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And then there's this.
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Okay.
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And so this clip's a little bit long, and it needed to be, because it begins with Jimmy's
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playing a clip of Tucker and strap it the fuck in.
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All right.
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Because...
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So wait.
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So now on this show, where it's not Alex's show, but we're listening to Alex.
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It's not Tucker's show, but we're listening to Tucker.
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Yeah.
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It is Jimmy Dore's show, but I still have to fucking hear Kurt Metzger.
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I'm furious about this cast.
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Yeah.
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It's not good.
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This ain't the dream team.
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But this is about aliens.
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Oh, okay.
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So they are trying to hide it still.
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That's a fact.
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My own view is that these are not aliens.
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There's no evidence that they've come from somewhere else.
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We would probably know.
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We've got a lot of technology that's watching what comes in and out of the atmosphere, and
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there's no evidence of that.
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I think they've been here forever.
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I don't...
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They're not...
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This is my view.
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Again, it can be proven.
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Center of the earth.
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But I was telling you for a lot of conversations.
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Center of the earth.
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I think it's likely that they're not aliens.
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I think it's likely that the US government has had contact with these.
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Direct contact.
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And over a period of years, I find that really disturbing.
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Because I...
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And a bunch of other things that are highly distressing that I can't prove, and so I'm
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certainly not gonna throw them out there.
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But I can...
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I'll tell you this.
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I've talked to a lot of people about this.
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I've never been interested in UFOs until five years ago.
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And I was like, wait, this is real.
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What is this?
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Why aren't we talking about this?
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I'm just coming at it from a totally idiotic...
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I don't know anything curious position, which is my normal posture on everything.
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Yeah, yeah, that's usually...
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And so I've talked to a lot of people.
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And my view is that there...
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This is my opinion.
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That there are things about this that are really disturbing.
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And while I hate any kind of government secrecy, and if I could prove any of this, I would
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say it immediately.
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Consequences be damned.
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I do sort of understand why they don't wanna let this stuff out.
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It's not about, oh, we've got fragments of one of these crafts at a Lockheed facility
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in California, and we have biologics from the craft.
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Everyone knows that that's likely true.
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Well, it's certainly true that they have the pieces of this stuff.
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But I think it's likely that it's darker than that, and that the US government is...
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I said the US government, people in the US government, not the US government, but there
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are parts of vast...
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It's the largest human organization in history.
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Parts of it have knowledge that is very, very disturbing.
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And I personally think, strongly think, that there's a spiritual component to this that
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I don't understand and will not pretend to understand.
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But I think it's very clear that there's a spiritual component to this.
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That's one of the reasons the Vatican, again, I'm not Catholic, but has been involved in
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this for over 100 years as an observatory, et cetera, et cetera.
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I mean, it's pretty obvious that these are not men from Mars.
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That, I think, that was a psyop, because I think the truth is a little bit wilder and
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has deeper implications just than that.
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So what do you think he's talking about there?
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He's...
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Shut up.
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Well...
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Shut up.
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I have to be really careful here...
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Shut up.
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...because I'm friends with Tucker, I hang out with him, Sean, go hunt with him and
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shoot him and go visit him and then things like that.
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When Alex starts like that, you know that he's probably gonna say whatever he's not
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supposed to say?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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In fact, you invited me to come out to Florida sometime next month, and I just love Tucker,
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love to death.
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He thought I was a psychopath 15 years ago for saying 9-11 was an inside job in Building
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7, and then his children, who were down in college and stuff, out of college, started
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bringing him stuff and saying, no, dad, this guy's pretty good, we like him, so he came
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to visit me 11, 12 years ago and kind of halfway apologized.
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He said, I thought you were a sociopath and just saying all this stuff for ratings, but
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I found out you're a really good guy.
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And I am a sociopath saying stuff for ratings.
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And Tucker has really listened to me a lot now, and it's also other people, and from
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my research of The Globalist and what they're really doing in DMT research in the 60s, 70s,
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and 80s, and that also goes to a connection to a family friend who was the deputy head
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of a major psychedelic research group in San Francisco.
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Was it Wavy Gravy?
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It was about, when I first heard this, I was about seven years old on a trip in the back
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of my mom's Volkswagen Beetle with her and her friend.
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Oh, it was a she.
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Never mind.
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To a week-long trip with the girls to Arkansas.
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Additional details.
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Where they wanted to get a tour of the trip, check out all the cool sites there.
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Really beautiful there.
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And I'm sitting in the back with my Etch A Sketch of comic books listening to this lady.
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It's totally a true story.
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All these details really reinforces it.
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Talk about how they're basically astronauts, and they put them on DMT drips.
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This is before anybody was talking about DMT, and they go in and they model this veil or
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the other dimensions that are there, and they then communicate with these entities, and
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they come back and then write notes about it.
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And then I did later research once I grew up and knew about this.
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They also have volunteers where they actually stop the heart and kill people for a couple
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minutes so that they can have these out-of-body experiences.
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Because what it is third dimensionally, they call it spiritual.
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That's what the ancients called it.
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What the globalists actually believe, what the evidence says, is there's 12 dimensions
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we know about just in this verse versus multiverses.
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Oh, okay.
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So I'm a little bit distracted for a couple reasons.
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Yeah.
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I got bored of Alex.
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Yeah, well, that'll happen.
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So I'm thrilled to report that Wavy Gravy is still alive.
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Okay, I was wondering.
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Married to the same woman since 1965.
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Really?
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Yes, almost 60 years of blissful matrimony.
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Oh, good for them.
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Here's the other thing I learned.
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What's that?
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Their last name is Romney.
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Maybe related.
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You think they're part of the Romney family?
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If they are, that is perhaps the final nail in the coffin if there aren't enough guys.
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According to Wikipedia, which I'm not sure I'm gonna fully believe, but I'll go ahead
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for now and believe, they have a son named Howdy Do Good Gravy Tomahawk Truck Stop Romney.
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It may or may not be the case.
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Anyway, so Tucker's talking about demons.
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Sure, sure.
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Sure, I've decided, I thought for a long time that I was anti borders, like no borders,
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no countries, no nothing.
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And I've realized that we do need borders, but not organized around region, organized
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around century.
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Okay, so this region, there will be people who still live in 1904.
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Right, so you're talking about the places where they have the role playing, because
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it's a good start.
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Let's go ahead and use that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's start there, right?
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So Tucker, okay, there's a spiritual component, 100 years, fine, 1900s, that's where you
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live.
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I get to live in the present.
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I like the present.
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Yeah, but the present is demonic though, man.
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And I'm gonna stay there.
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You don't have to live in the present with me.
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You can live in 1904.
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But your very existence on the border...
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No, that's why we...
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Again, I'm all about domes.
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My organizational strategy is all dome based.
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Once you get in the dome, you're not getting out of the dome.
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So Tucker is talking demons.
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Yeah.
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And Alex's answer is very much trying to insist that he has something confidential that
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Tucker has told him, and be like, I'm not gonna talk about this, and then just starts
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rambling about DMT research and familial relations of his that are deeply entwined
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with the 12 dimensions of our single part of the multiverse.
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Yeah, I mean, see, I was all fine up until we got to the multiverse.
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Then you're just...
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Well, that's quite a twist at the end.
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You're negating your premise.
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You're not twisting, you're just invalidating.
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So there's 12 dimensions in each dimension of the verse.
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No need them.
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No?
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Nope, don't need it.
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Cut it out.
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Condense.
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To?
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Focus.
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To what?
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To equality.
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To...
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You can have dimensions or a multiverse.
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There is dimensions, Vatican connected to the dimensions, higher and lower.
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That's what you got.
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You got basic...
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You got your basic three tiered system, right?
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And the Vatican is like the hinge point.
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Exactly.
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You got your inferno, purgatorio, paradiso.
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You got the traditional structure.
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Now we're back to comedy.
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Now you gotta get a...
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That's how it's done, Metzger.
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Yeah, Metzger.
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Oh boy.
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So here's a situation that you need to...
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What were we doing?
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Who cares?
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Do we have a show?
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Here's what we need to recognize.
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Yes.
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More and more people have seen Ghost.
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Okay.
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I'm sorry, I'm gonna need a lot more on that.
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More and more people are seeing Ghost.
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I feel like we've seen so many fucking Ghosts.
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You're gonna get plenty on it.
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Okay.
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And here's the thing.
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Here's where I started to get a sense of what Alex is definitely not saying about Tucker.
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Okay.
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The ancients would take a bunch of drugs and get in the middle of a circle.
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They thought it protected them.
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Solomon, the Egyptians, all of it.
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And a genie or a demon would appear.
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And they usually wanted the sacrifice of blood to give you knowledge.
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You can read this in the...
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Or to give you three wishes.
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Or in black magic books that are thousands of years old...
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Thousands of year old black magic books.
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This comes from psychedelics and the ancients and then all the other cultures taking these drugs
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is that they believe they're talking to the gods and the servants of the gods.
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But the rule is the higher level angels or good guys don't interfere
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in the third dimensional manifestation of our bodies.
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That is a dimensional manifestation or signature of something much larger.
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So this is kind of the tether of what we are.
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And a signature or footprint that's interdimensionally there.
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It's way more complex than that.
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But basically that's where these people have these experiences.
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That's where people have never taken drugs, have no mental illness in their family.
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Will walk into their bedroom and a poltergeist will appear or won't.
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And will throw you up onto the ceiling.
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Holy shit.
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Or will put giant bloody scratch marks across your chest.
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And so more and more people are having this experience.
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And so they didn't believe in God.
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They didn't believe in aliens till they get demonically attacked.
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And I'm not going to say who this has happened to.
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But let's just say it's happening to a lot of people.
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And they're suddenly discovering all this.
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Trying to then say, what did this to me?
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I'm not drinking.
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I'm not on drugs.
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And I just got...
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It's usually when you're alone and these things will attack you.
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And so that's really what's going on.
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And so...
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So Tucker got attacked by a demon?
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I believe...
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That's what I'm picking up.
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That whilst in his main studio.
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Where he said he drinks.
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Tucker was accosted by a poltergeist.
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It could have been.
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Do you think he was thrown up on the ceiling?
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I don't know.
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I don't know if it appeared or did not appear.
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Because apparently both are available.
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So now here's where things get real weird.
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Yes.
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I was laughing along with this.
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Sure.
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This is silly.
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Well, I mean...
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But then look at this.
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Holy shit!
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There's scratches across your chest!
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And I saw that.
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I was like, what the fuck?
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And then I realized I have a cat.
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You do have a cat.
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There is that.
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Yeah.
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So probably not a demon.
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Could not be a demon.
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Could be a cat.
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Yep.
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So Tucker got attacked by a demon and that's why he's acting weird.
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I don't understand the specificity of the scratch marks on the chest.
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Because that is so specific.
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And we don't need that detail.
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We've already got, oh, they might appear or not and you'll be on the roof.
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Yeah.
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Scratches on the chest seems almost like a downgrade.
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And yet it's so specific, it feels important.
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Well, here's the thing that I would look at it as.
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Yeah.
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So you have someone who's a gunslinger.
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Sure.
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And you got someone who's a knife fighter.
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All right.
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Which one brought the correct instrument to the set fight?
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They're not fighting each other.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, that's good.
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What I'm saying is the things that they would leave behind if they attacked you would be different.
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Oh, that's true.
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So maybe there are certain poltergeists that like to scratch.
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They have claws.
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Certain poltergeists have telekinesis and can put you on the ceiling.
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Now we've entered.
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It's the difference between a knife fighter and a gunslinger.
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Now we've entered it.
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See, this is where we get into trouble again.
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I always like the, okay, if that's true, what else is true?
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Question.
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Sure.
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Well, it's like with poltergeists.
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They are like action role playing games.
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Sure.
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There's different classes.
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Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Okay.
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Each one has a dimension.
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Now you are a cowboy gunslinger.
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You die in the Old West.
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Yeah.
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Are you forever a gunslinger poltergeist or can you learn a new skill?
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Well, it depends on if you have enough in game currency to respect.
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That is a good point.
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You got to do fetch quests pretty regularly.
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You don't have to grind to get the XP in order to become a knife guy.
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Unless you want to put in your real money, your real ghost money.
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You don't want to do that.
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You don't want to do that.
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But you could, you could like just start.
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Free to poltergeist.
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You could just start like trying to like learn a secondary skill.
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Sure.
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It'll always, it won't be as good.
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Yeah.
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You can't dual class.
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No.
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Not after.
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Not if you're a ghost.
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I mean, well, you can add Lich, but that's already really kind of happened.
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So yeah, Tucker got attacked by a demon.
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Tucker got attacked by a demon.
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We have to keep coming back to this because that is clearly what Alex is saying.
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1904 is the year that Tucker gets to live in.
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So look, a lot of people take DMT and they have these visions.
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Like the astronauts that were on DMT drips.
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Sure.
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But Alex doesn't need that shit.
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No.
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You know why?
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Drugs?
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He has a freakishly large neck.
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Oh, I don't know.
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What's happening is we're teaming with energy, teaming with consciousnesses,
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but we're dialed down because you couldn't have a wife or a husband and go plant corn in the field
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and do your work if you could see all the different things interdimensionally that are there.
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And so I naturally have a 21 inch neck and have really bad sleep apnea since I was a kid
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because I guess you almost call it a birth defect.
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I mean, my head is huge and my neck's huge for my body.
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But the point is that I've had two sleep studies done.
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I get down to 63% oxygen and there's only at night that causes brain damage long term.
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But there's only one thing in studies that will bring you into the DMT experience,
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and that's low oxygen dreams.
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Well, I have low oxygen dreams.
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So since I was a small child, especially when I grew up and got bigger,
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I don't dream in REM sleep the last two hours like most people.
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I dream from the time I go to bed or the time I wake up eight hours later.
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And a lot of it is a brain function, going over the data, creating scenarios for the brain.
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There's also things that I've had that-
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Nicotine?
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Well, I would fly on planes.
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That is the wrongest response to that.
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And nicotine will make you dream very vividly.
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Absolutely, because it constricts the blood vessels and does a bunch of other stuff.
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So yes, and so I'm not trying to get mumbo jumbo.
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I don't go to the churches and believe that stuff.
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I know what I objectively know.
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I know the government's studying it, and I told Tucker some private stuff.
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He told me some private stuff.
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He asked me on his show to go ahead and say it, and I said,
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I'm not going to tell those stories, Tucker, because he said,
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why not?
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Tell it right now during a break.
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He was, we're taking a piss.
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And I said, Tucker, why don't you tell your stories?
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He said, touche.
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Touche.
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Near devastating speed bump by Metzger, expertly avoided by Alex,
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just sort of shuffling it off to the side and moving along.
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Alex probably is, maybe that conversation was real with Tucker,
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the I'll share mine if you share yours touche.
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It could be.
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But Alex's motivation in not getting into that stuff is not because Tucker didn't.
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It's because he had a wider audience that he didn't want to look at him as nuts.
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Yeah, he's saying that stuff real fine.
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Yeah, here.
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Yeah, because there is a Joe Rogan adjacency to the audience that Alex knows
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that occurred Metzger and Jimmy Dore have where he wants.
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He wants to have kind of like that psycho not going on.
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Yeah.
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Whereas, you know, Tucker for whatever, you know, still mainstreaming it a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Whether or not that accurately depicts Tucker's audience, that is the aesthetic.
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And that that's what you want to play to.
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I feel like what we just heard was imagine a guy spent 25 years building a career around
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the idea that every night someone was in his house moving stuff around.
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Yeah.
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And then about an hour ago, he's like, yeah, there's a guy.
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He's in my house every night, moves stuff around.
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And then last night I found out I was a sleepwalker.
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Crazy.
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Anyways, this guy, I'm going to catch him next time, you know?
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And it's like, I've surreptitiously built my worldview around what I think this guy is up to.
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I'm sorry.
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Did you just explain everything that you have ever said in two seconds with a very simple
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and plausible, and in fact, the actual answer?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Because everybody else having like a low oxygen hallucinogen hallucinatory dreams.
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No, 100% explained every single thing that you have ever said to me.
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Everybody else would have nonsense hallucination dreams.
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I see the future.
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Oh my God.
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That made me so bad.
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I don't know if I can really, I genuinely, I can't really, I can't wrap my mind around
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the idea that he's told people in his real life that stuff.
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Yeah, probably.
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They've been to doctors and the doctors have been like, you understand this is all why.
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You understand all of this.
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It's right here.
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It's right here.
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Yeah.
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The problem is that you have delusions and you think they're real.
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Yeah.
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Now he is the added layer that you have to wrap your head around.
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Yeah.
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He's telling this to Jimmy and Kurt.
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Yep.
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And they're just like, oh man, that's heavy.
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That's deep stuff, man.
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I feel, I genuinely feel this is about as insane as a human being can feel.
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I think you can see why I stopped taking notes.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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No, I, I, I truly feel crazy.
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Like it does feel like I've been gaslit on a, on a level of like, it feels like I'm a
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ghost.
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It feels like I'm a ghost, right?
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You know, like these people are all having a conversation and I'm just sitting there
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screaming and they're in, you know, that is kind of what our show is.
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It is like it's a little ghost.
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It is a little ghosty poltergeist.
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I will say that poltergeist.
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So Tucker saw a demon.
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When Tucker tells his stories, I'll tell mine.
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And I'm giving you a little bit of a hint here and I've not broken confidence or anything
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here, but I'm just saying that important people are having these experiences.
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I mean, you might be driving down the road and you're not on drugs and it's 8 AM in the
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morning and you have no history of mental illness.
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You've never seen an hallucination, both optical or, or, uh, uh, olfactory and you look over
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in your seat and there is a demon sitting right there in the seat saying, I'm going
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to kill you.
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I'm going to kill you.
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I mean that, that, that, that, that is going on.
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And so, so 95% of this interview has been stuff we can prove.
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They're going to control our minds.
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They're going to do all this.
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They're gonna make us eat bugs.
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And so they're all, here's the best info I have.
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They didn't meet the aliens at Roswell.
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They didn't go and the aliens landed on us, you know, at hangar area 51.
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What they're doing is they're getting interdimensional information from lower level beings that are
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older than us or been around the transistor.
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All of this just came into being and it's not coming in crash spacecrafts.
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That's what they're giving them.
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But they'll literally tell the government when they're, when they're in these DMT operations,
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okay, bring in 10 kids and cut their heads off for me.
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And say, well, they want you to do evil things that they liked it.
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Or is it just to see if we'll do what they tell them?
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And then they go, okay, open your mind.
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I'm giving you a design for something.
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And then they're giving us a design to build a system.
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It's kind of like the movie cheesy 1990 sci-fi movie, uh, species where they've got a radio
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telescope aimed at 50 light years away or whatever it was.
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And they get sent a DNA sequence from aliens and they go, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's
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inject this into a female egg and see what happens.
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It is almost kind of exactly like the movie.
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It is almost kind of exactly like movies that he saw.
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I 100% forgot the plot of species.
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Me too.
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Because I saw it at a like basketball team sleepover or maybe it wasn't even a sleepover.
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I'm not entirely sure, but I think it might've not been a sleepover, but like a pizza party
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kind of thing.
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Right, right, right.
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That, that makes way worse sense.
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Yeah, and it was, I only think, I think it was a sleepover because of what I'm about
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to tell you.
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Okay.
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I was not allowed to watch R rated movies.
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Sure.
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And so I went to a bedroom and like censored it myself.
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Oh dear.
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I refused to watch it because I wasn't allowed.
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And so I went into a bedroom.
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That's why I probably thought it was a sleepover.
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I want to, I want to protect you as a child more.
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I was fine not seeing Natasha Hemstrich nude.
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That's all right.
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You'll be all right.
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Uh, but yeah, I forgot that was the plot of the movie, but apparently that's what
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the, the, the aliens are, the demons are doing.
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That is the plot.
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And then she could jump really high.
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Wasn't that the...
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I don't know.
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I didn't see it.
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That's a good point.
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Something like that.
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So you had some more alien talk here.
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Sure.
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You ready?
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No, no, I'm not.
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And so basically the aliens don't come in flying saucers from Mars.
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They don't come up out of it.
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You know, the Pacific, you know, rim, you know, from the hollow earth.
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Like in that movie?
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Or in that other movie?
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Vortex and then communicate.
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Oh, like in that other movie.
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That is operating in the third, fourth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and 10th, and even
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11th and 12th dimensions.
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Whoa.
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And so the invasion, ancients would call it spiritual, but it's not spiritual in every
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culture.
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I mean, they got the Dugan tribe and, you know, tribes in Africa that, that, that, that
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said up there in the sky is this pole star, multi-star, and it's got seven planets around
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it.
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And they came from this one and no telescope.
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That's the movie Prometheus.
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Like 70 years ago, couldn't even see it.
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And then the Africans said that was, and they say aliens came from here and taught us about
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all this stuff.
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But they also told us about, uh, these, these other interdimensional things that are here
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to destroy us.
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And you see, I don't know, but all I know, and then you see Prometheus, the movie, caught
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ya, I get five points.
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And tell you the story, none of the globalists really believe that some salts in the ocean
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turned into a cell, turned into a sponge, turned into a fish, crawled out on the land,
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crawled back in.
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So we're anti all evolution too?
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Signs that have been made before.
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Well, of course Alex is.
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Now that makes sense.
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Yeah, but yeah, Jimmy's not pushing back at all.
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You dumb fuck.
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You believe in evolution?
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It was, it was Prometheus.
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It was the movie Prometheus.
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I had not expected the movie Prometheus to be on the, uh.
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You didn't expect to be that quickly, uh, right?
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I really didn't.
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I really didn't.
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I thought it would take a little, a little longer.
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Yeah, maybe there would be another movie starring Matt Damon that they would bring
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up sooner or later.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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Oh boy.
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It's good stuff.
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I, I think we should replace the right wing conspiracy media with just a loop of the
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movie event horizon, right?
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Fuck not.
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Like we could just get rid of all of them and then just have a captive quarter of the
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American population just always watching event horizon on a loop.
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And it would be about the same in terms of belief structure.
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I mean, it'd be a push.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, he does think he's on dime store Rogan.
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Yeah.
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Because he's trying to blow some minds here.
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It's feeling like it's not hard to do in this scenario.
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Well, it's a little harder than he thinks it is.
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Uh oh.
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Have a lead block sealed and they'll have a, a, a neutron or a particle.
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And if you're observing it, it won't go through.
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But then for some reason, this has been duplicated thousands of times.
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If you're not observing it, it suddenly jumps across.
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It wants you to know something.
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And then they've also noticed that if humans observe, uh, uh, electrons and quarks that
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literally, so it's kind of like George Lucas, but not in a cheesy way.
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But because I'm sorry, I have atomic that, that it, it, it, it, it changes.
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Observance changes what's happening.
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Do you mean midichlorians?
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It's absolutely insane.
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And they've, they've hooked up electron microscopes, spectrometers in Japan to say,
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well, maybe it's because there's humans near it.
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And then they'll hook it up and then they'll have all these humans in the room around it,
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but not looking at it because they can't see it.
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And then as soon as somebody in Russia or Japan or America back to Japan looks at it
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through the microscope, absolutely.
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I mean, I'm not the quantum mechanics person.
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I just know that's, what's going in and unified field theory.
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I've read a lot of books on it into all of this.
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And, and, and so it's there, there's a whole, and look, look.
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So Alex is trying to blow some minds and Kurt says entanglement and Alex is like,
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Oh, he knows a word.
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Yeah.
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Oh shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Once, once you're not the quantum mechanics guy, it's all a unified field theory and move along.
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Once like the, the smartest thing you can say is to reference literally spooky action at a distance.
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That's the thing that they call it.
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That's the original thing.
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Spooky action at a distance.
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It's real spooky.
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Yep.
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That's what scientists did.
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Yeah.
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And, and Alex doesn't, first of all, understand this stuff at all, but it's amazing how quickly
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he retreated once there was like some, yeah.
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Oh, entanglement.
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Then I will run away.
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I was killing it with the demon stuff.
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Yeah.
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Then I started talking a little bit about quantum physics.
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Well, it's real.
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Some of it's real.
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The problem with quantum physics, it sounds like a movie, but some of it's actually true.
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Well, but here's the thing.
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What?
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If you start a set as a standup and you're doing well, you're talking about X.
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Sure.
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Then you start talking about Y and the audience is like,
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Oh, you might go back to X.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Comfortable water.
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So let's get back to demons.
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Good call.
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So that's what, what's a cat seeing?
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How does it decipher it?
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Cause all we have is the art types of our genetic ancestors imprinted on us to be able
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to decode things.
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Is that all we have?
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So, so again, maybe, maybe demons look like names to themselves, but to us, that's the
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only way we're able to see them.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
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I've read childhood sound.
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I follow what you're saying for sure.
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Have you done DMT ever?
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Shut up.
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Kurt.
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Here's the deal.
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I don't want to take you.
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I would go host a show with Kurt.
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Only if I can say that.
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I watched experiences and going, well, I have those experiences every night, crystal cities,
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floating pyramids, beautiful stuff like big Watchmen angels.
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Do you mean low oxygen dreams that you literally just explained?
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That are so real.
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Low oxygen.
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They're real.
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You explained that.
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No, they're real.
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And just give me profound knowledge and profound sense of completion and peace.
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And, and, and it's that art type of the Watchmen or the angels and everybody, and you know,
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the ancient, it's low oxygen told me this show.
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I have DMT like experiences.
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And before I knew how to control it, it would be a lot of it was bad stuff.
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I've seen when I read the books about it.
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Well, I've seen that in my dreams.
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Well, I just made the decision that I'm with the higher power.
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I'm with God.
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I control my spirit.
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I control my energy.
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I changed the channel.
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I'm going to go to Valhalla.
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I'm going to go see stuff that looks like a thousand times more powerful than Hawaii
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and the most beautiful rainbow you ever saw.
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And, and, and so, so, and I know it's real because, because, and again, it's just like
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observing a particle.
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If you're watching it, it won't do it hundreds of times in my life.
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You God, the universe, whatever you want to call it.
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When I was a kid, like I have a digital clock in the kitchen.
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I'd wake up and I'd say, don't tell me the 4am story again.
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And I would run down to the kitchen and every time it was whatever time it was, and maybe
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I'll wake up at 5am and I'd say, it's 504.
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It was always, it was always this thing saying, go to the clock.
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I'm here.
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I want you to know this is real.
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Yes.
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My, my low oxygen dreams were prophetic and real because I knew what time it was because
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God was telling me what time it was.
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Look, I do think there's something actually kind of interesting in what Alex is saying.
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Sure.
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That idea of, you know, you're having this terrible dream and then you change the channel.
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I have had that experience when you're there, you have a nightmare and you recognize it's
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a nightmare there.
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You can change the entire surrounding, but that doesn't mean that any of it is real.
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Nope.
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I wonder, so this makes me so concerned, right?
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Because it should, it one, it makes me wonder like, should we almost entirely give up on
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that idea of the consciousness has control and more just really, truly accept that we
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are only aware of the physical processes after they occur.
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You know, like Alex cannot be anything other than what Alex is because biologically Alex
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is Alex and there's nothing that can be done about that.
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Those low oxygen dreams, if somebody had gone to him and gotten him a sleep apnea machine
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when he was nine, if everything had gone the exact same way, but the man dreamt normally
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for a fucking month, a hundred years ago.
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I mean, who knows?
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He might've been Tucker.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah.
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You know, like what is it?
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There's just, it's just so fucking, oh man.
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The only thing that makes him interesting and different than everybody else is maybe
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a function of his low oxygen dreams that he's had.
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And that's it.
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That's it, man.
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That's heartbreaking.
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Or inspiring.
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It could be.
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You know, you hear stories about people who like, they only became the track star of the
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art because they broke their leg or something like that.
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You hear that?
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I would never have become the great liar I am if I had no idea that reality was different.
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Yeah.
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So in a way, your buddy, Kurt, he wants there to be aliens.
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And Alex is saying it's all dimensional stuff.
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He wants there to be space aliens.
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There better be space aliens.
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Okay, I have a question.
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Why would it just be interdimensional?
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Why wouldn't it be yes and...
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Okay, good question.
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But shut up, Kurt.
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They would come from other planets.
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How is that...
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I'm sure the interdimensional thing could possibly be true.
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But the interplanetary thing is crazier than that?
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How would that be?
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I'll go back to Frank Herbert, which is out of quantum mechanics.
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This is actually what the quantum mechanics, you know, experts believe.
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Let's take this piece of Frank Herbert and say...
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The guy who died before.
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Right here is Betelgeuse or some star, you know.
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Is this the cuddling thing? We all know this.
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I'll show people.
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Let's say there's a galaxy 50 light years away, okay?
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Okay.
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How long does it take to get there?
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And here's, you know, this planet that we want to go to, okay?
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Now, if you're trying to go 50 light years with current technology,
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even though we had light speed, it'll take you 50 years to get there.
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Now, interdimensionally, all you gotta do is fold the piece of paper...
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He's folding a piece of paper.
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He's doing the full space, yeah.
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...you're able to do this, and that's the theory of the third dimension.
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There's higher dimensions, and then all you do is punch a hole,
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and you're basically instantly there.
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So, that's like somebody, before they invented the wheel,
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looking at a chariot and saying, what does that do?
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So, see, take you 50 years to get there...
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I'm sorry, what?
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...you don't even have yet, but if you interdimensionally travel there,
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you're there instantly by folding.
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That's fold space.
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Right.
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How's that different?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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They're unimpressed, but also like, hey, whatever.
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Pass, pass, pass.
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So, you have one last clip.
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I mean, because here's the more interesting thing about that, right?
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The more fun thing about Alex's bullshit is not that it takes 50 light years to get from here,
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or it takes 50 years from here to a star 50 light years away.
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It's that in order to accelerate up to light speed, you can only go so fast, right?
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You can't accelerate from zero to 300 meters per second, you know?
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So, it takes you a year and a half, two years to get up to percentage of light speed, right?
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Right.
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And during that time, you're also moving at different speeds
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relative to the rest of the universe.
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So, not only are you moving at like, say, a day faster than your buddy as you go along,
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but over time, that's also changing.
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So, you don't even know how old you're going to be in relation to other people until you leave, right?
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And then after all of that is done, after all of that is done,
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you're never going to get back.
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Sure.
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There's nowhere to go.
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Everybody you know is dead.
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That's why you got to fold the paper.
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And that is why Charlton Heston was so pissed off.
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At that chair?
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At that fucking statue, man.
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Now, hear me out on this.
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Yeah. What do you got?
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In my perfect world, Alex does this demonstration with the guys at the folding paper.
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Pokes them.
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Pokes a hole, illustrates it, and then here's an origami crane.
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Ah, that would be fun.
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That would be fun.
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Just to show off.
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Just to add a little odd job to it.
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Because honestly, they seemed very unimpressed with what he did,
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what he showed them with the folding, because it's unimpressive.
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The new Dune came out just a couple of years ago.
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Well, Frank Herbert wrote Quantum Physics.
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He did, a while back.
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So, we have one last clip.
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And Alex is talking about his dreams some more.
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Sure, sure.
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Yep.
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And the Crystal Palaces and what have you.
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Still mad.
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And then I decided I'm out of here.
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Good call.
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I wish I had crew in the studio, because they've been showing for about a month
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this AI rendering of castles and mountains and the universe and how it changes.
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And when I saw them play that, I went, that's where I go.
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That's one of the things I've seen basically exactly.
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Well, here's AI scraping the art and visions of billions of people.
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And then you put into it the cosmos, heaven.
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And then it literally shows you what the collective unconscious already has.
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So that is the power of AI.
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Wow.
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Is that it scrapes fragments of what we're doing in the conscious and unconscious
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that bubble up the conscious.
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And then it is, in many of these things I've seen manifesting,
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some really deep, powerful stuff.
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There's no crew in there, is there?
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Too bad everybody's probably gone.
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That's a metaphor.
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I'm going to send you this.
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There's no crew in there.
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And I'm telling you, the stuff I see in these dreams is just like this,
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but even more blazing and gorgeous and just way more powerful.
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But when I saw this for the first time, I was like, whoa,
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that's very similar to what I see.
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And I've never seen art like that, never seen culture like that,
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never seen what I've seen, one of the things I see.
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And then AI, though, it saw it because it's scraping millions of people.
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So before we go, you tweeted this out,
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and I wanted to end our conversation talking a little bit about Israel.
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You said-
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Yeah, I'm out.
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I'm out.
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Nope.
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You do not transition from this bullshit nonsense conversation to,
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let me ask you a serious question about Israel.
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Fuck off.
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While we're on the topic of very important things-
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Like how AI is scraping your dream vacation home.
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Alex, you're a complete made up fictional universe based entirely around your illness.
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That is interesting.
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Tell me about Israel.
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I wonder, are people just legitimately afraid to call him nuts?
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Like, are people just afraid to listen to that and push back
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because they think he's going to push back even harder?
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I don't know what the deal is, but if you have any self-respect,
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first of all, you're not going to then ask your closing question about some very serious topic.
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Somebody needs to throw something.
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But you're not going to listen to this whole,
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Tucker Carlson got attacked by a demon nonsense.
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I have oxygen deprived dreams that have formed my worldview
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that you should all take very seriously.
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And it's based on science fiction movies that I can't stop name dropping.
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How would you, if you had any self-respect, not be like,
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here's a follow up question, but these dreams, they're not real.
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You don't know what time it is.
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Go fuck yourself.
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Yeah.
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You know, the only thing that I've ever, as far as comedians go,
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you know, that whole like, oh, comedians are truth tellers.
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You know, that whole thing.
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I've never bought into any of that.
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The only thing truly that I think comedians and clowns are
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that cannot be done by anything else is the kid who says the emperor has no clothes.
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You know, like that's who we are.
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We're the people who, yeah, everybody else is standing around.
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You and Jim Brewer have a lot in common.
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I mean, no, not like that guy.
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Fuck everybody.
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COVID has no facts.
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I'm just, I'm just, I just mean like, that's what we're here.
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I'm willing to be called a clown.
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I'm willing to have everybody laugh at me because that's what it means for me to be able to say,
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Jesus Christ, Alex Jones just said he only has enough oxygen to barely survive.
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And that's where everything you think he believes comes from.
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Yeah.
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He just doesn't breathe good.
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All the things that he pretends are based on like this extensive research and thousands of books and
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no, it's things that he's had hallucinations from lack of oxygen that he feels are prophecy.
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There are two atoms that are not often enough in Alex's brain.
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I mean, it does describe, explain a whole lot.
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Yeah.
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Um, and, uh, I mean, the, the, where the rubber meets the road is that the politics that he has
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created on top of those delusions and those hallucinations that he's deemed prophecy are
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things that are really dangerous.
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They hurt a lot of people.
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Um, people, uh, were obviously killed through the vaccine denialism, the hydroxychloroquine stuff.
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Yep. Uh, people are targeted and at risk due to his transphobia and his increasingly towards
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just outright entire LGBTQ community, uh, denial.
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Um, he's a racist.
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He would, uh, see all immigrants, uh, banished.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's, these are the real world, uh, pieces that are built upon his house of
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lack of oxygen.
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Right.
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And that's what, that's the, that's the clown.
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That's the clown.
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That's me being like, Hey, listen, you have built an entire fucking worldview that is
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all structurally dependent on not enough oxygen getting to this man's dreams.
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So I don't know if you want to start from scratch, but maybe I would.
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I mean, I think a lot of people should ask some hard questions.
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You'd think.
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Yep.
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Myself included because I've created a show about a guy who's just lacking oxygen to his brain.
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I think, I think what we've inadvertently, uh, stumbled on to perhaps the greatest problem
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of our time.
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Maybe we just need to be cramming more oxygen in sleeping conservatives brains.
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It's clear that, I mean, if this is the only instance of this being bad, sleep apnea is
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a huge problem.
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He's a huge problem.
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Cause it's created this in one person.
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It's destroyed the world.
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So here's our message.
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Yes.
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Sleep apnea.
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Breath hygiene.
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Serious problem.
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Yeah.
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We all need to.
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Get a, get a fucking dehumidifier.
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Does that help?
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So anyway, uh, I'm glad, I'm glad that we went back and looped back and, and got the
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rest of this.
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I do feel like it's important.
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I left the first Jimmy Dore episode feeling, uh, Jimmy bored and I didn't feel inspired
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at all about what was going on.
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It just seemed like a dumb interview that Alex was saying all the same shit.
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And to an extent, this is also a lot of the same shit that Alex has in a bunch of these
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interviews.
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Sure.
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Um, but this gave me a little bit more of a window and I think I'm a little bit more
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interested.
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For one, Jimmy has no fucking spine whatsoever and allows Alex to just run over everything
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and go wherever he wants with no pushback.
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I mean, nuts.
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Second, Jimmy does seem like maybe he's someone who would be more interesting to cover because
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I do think he's further down the road than I had assumed.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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The second half of this definitely had more indications to me that like, he's closer to
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Alex than I thought, for sure.
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Right.
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Not as much of a showman, ironically, because he's a professional comedian.
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You'd think, yeah.
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Not, not as much, uh, chops.
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Not funny.
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No.
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Um, I, what I, I mean-
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And I love how much you don't like Kurt Metzger.
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I really do.
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And I think it would be funny to subject you to it.
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It will be fun.
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I, I'm actually almost even looking forward to yelling, shut up, Kurt.
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Um, no, I think what is interesting for me right at the gate and why I'd like to do more
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Jimmy Dore is the fact that he didn't like always go along.
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The fact that he just let Alex ramble without then always being like, and here's what I
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agree with.
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Sometimes where he joined a riff and sometimes not.
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I would like to know how much of this was just him being like, Alex is on the show,
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let him talk, that's dollar signs and how much of it is like, we want Alex to get his
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message out.
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Yeah.
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I'm curious about that.
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And then there's also some dangling threads.
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Like he, you know, I, I haven't watched enough of his content to fully know what his
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position on some of these issues are.
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Sure.
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He said he switched his position on immigration.
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I don't want to know what he thinks about Israel.
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No.
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Well, I kind of do.
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Well, yeah.
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I may have seen a clip of that.
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Professionally, you don't have a choice.
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Yeah, but like I, I may be interested in like, what does that mean?
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You switched your position on immigration.
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What is it now?
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I know it's not good, but what is it?
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What was it?
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Well, you said more immigrants, the better.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, that's not really a position though, is it?
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No, but maybe that's just how he's characterizing it.
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Might not be fully what his position was in the past, but I'm not sure what it is now.
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Sure.
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Is he like legit a full on all vaccines are wrong?
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Yeah.
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Is he a climate change denier?
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Like how much of these positions are actual things that he stakes out and he stands behind?
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Yeah.
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I'm kind of curious in that.
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I am too.
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I don't know how fervently I'll seek this as a topic to cover, but at least this was,
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I think, a little bit more interesting than the first one.
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Yeah, I agree.
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We got to learn that Tucker got attacked by demons.
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I'm not going to be able to handle a couple of, like this was a couple of revelations
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on this episode really, truly make me like both furious, like hopeless.
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And it's appropriate that revelations have to do with demons in the end of the world.
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Yep.
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So we'll be back, Jordan, for another episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgeright.com.
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Yep.
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And social media exists.
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We are on socials media.
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Maybe.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Anyway.
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I like Instagram because I'm into whales now.
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I just really like, look, they're so big.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Liam Dizzy X Clark.
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You know, it'd be great.
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Alex should be on the traders.
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Can you imagine?
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I absolutely can.
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He can't.
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Should he be a trader?
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Oh my God.
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Yes.
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Of course.
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Can you imagine?
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I'm not a trader.
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The first round table.
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Yeah, he's getting tapped on the arm.
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He's like, it's a good thing I'm not getting tapped on the arm right now.
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No, I mean the first time when there's accusations flying around.
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Oh yeah.
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Call suspicion to himself.
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Oh, it'd be great.
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It's me.
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The season three Alex, but he has to wear Hannibal Lecter.
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Uh, he has to always be tied up Hannibal Lecter style.
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Hear me out.
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The three to the audience.
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You can't see the excitement.
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The hand waving.
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Yes.
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The hand waving is astonishing.
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Uh, chosen, uh, people who will be the traders, the three traders, Alex Jones, Bill Gates,
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Bill Gates, Steve Pachannik.
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Okay.
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All right.
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That crew.
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Well, let me pitch you this.
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No female representation.
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Let me pitch you this.
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Alex Jones, very white team of traders.
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Alex Jones, the British TV presenter.
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Okay.
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And then, uh, yeah, we're going to go with Steve Pachannik again.
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Steve Pachannik.
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Anyway, we'll, uh, we'll be back.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
