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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledgefight, knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Good, good, good.
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I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.
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I love you.
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Hey, Jordan, hello, friends.
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I think you're doing great, guys.
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Good job.
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All right.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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You know, Jordan, sometimes these bright spots are whimsical.
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Sometimes they're food.
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Sometimes they're twilight.
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You know, what are you going to do?
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But sometimes they're a little bit basic, and I guess today's is a little basic, and
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that is I guess I'm just - bright spot is I'm alive, honestly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Bright spot.
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Bright spot.
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It's shit.
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Times are shit.
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You know, we postponed our last - or canceled our Friday episode of last week because I
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got a horrendous bout of food poisoning that has been described by those who have heard
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it, vis-à-vis my dad, as it sounds like the worst I've ever heard of.
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Yep.
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It was real bad, to the point where I thought I was going to die for sure.
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Culprits have been identified by some people on social media.
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They are things like the Aldi cheese advent calendar.
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That'll happen.
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The Haribo.
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These are suspects, and I would like to clear all of these of suspicion.
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The Haribo absolutely was not the contributing factor.
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The cheese calendar, if I'm being totally honest, I've fallen off on a little bit,
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so that was actually - I'm behind on that.
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That's out of the running.
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I don't believe it is.
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I believe it was some bad hot dogs.
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Well, that's not hard to imagine.
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Of all the things to imagine, yeah.
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I got some Oscar Meyers from the grocery store, and when I was eating them, I did think, yeah,
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these aren't good.
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And I didn't think much of it, and I did throw away one.
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That's good.
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So, like, I didn't even finish all of it, but I did make note of, like, this is - something's
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wrong here.
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And it turns out something was wrong, something was real wrong.
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That is an interesting thing, because you were one thrown-away hot dog from death.
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That hot dog was - that had your name written on it, like a bullet in -
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That might have been my polonium poisoning -
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Full metal jacket right there, yeah.
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- that would have been done for.
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Yeah.
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But, yeah, I mean, this has been, like, a real shit month as a whole in terms of some
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issues with shifting medications that is still ongoing in terms of, like, depression and
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all that stuff.
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That's still - remains unresolved and is a turbulent up and down throughout.
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I had another medical issue that maybe we'll talk about at some point on air, but that
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was plaguing me and has been a bit - no one needs to feel bad or anything, it's fine,
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but -
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No.
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I mean, just everything has been a pile of shit towards the end of this year.
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I don't foresee 2024 being any better, honestly.
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No, it's going to be great.
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It's going to be great.
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And then in the midst of all of this, like, we have Alex getting back on Twitter and all
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the shitheads rejoicing and Alex posting Endgame on Twitter.
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It's like, oh, God, it's just - I can't - it's rough.
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But I'm alive and we're here, so bright spot.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Huzzah.
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It's been - it's been really great to be helpless and watch you suffer.
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That's fantastic.
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I mean, you didn't have to watch.
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I didn't live stream my throwing up at four in the morning.
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No, I didn't have to watch.
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I didn't have to watch, but I did spend a lot of time worrying.
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Well, I'm sorry that you did, but I appreciate your concern.
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No, no, no, this is about me, just in case you were wondering.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm glad you're alive.
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But -
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It's about me.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I'm glad you're alive.
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I love you.
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My Bright Spot actually is this new show, Carol and the End of the World, on Netflix.
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It's another animated show.
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It's one of the more pensive and, like, emotionally affecting things that I've watched in a long
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time.
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Okay.
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It's very - it's not funny or - I mean, I don't know.
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It is funny, but it's hard to describe beyond, like, occasionally.
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I was genuinely weeping, salt tears for, like, existential purposes.
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Right.
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You know?
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Like, it is that kind of a show.
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Is it a sequel or a television version of Seeking a Friend for the End of the World?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Not that Steve Carell movie.
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No, it is not that.
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Did that make you cry?
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No.
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That didn't bother me at all.
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No.
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It is - it's a melancholy in tone.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I mean, I assume it has to do with the End of the World.
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It's the End of the World.
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Yeah.
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It's the end of the most feel.
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Right.
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What - I mean, what's fascinating about it is that idea of the twin paths of the end
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of the world, you know?
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Like, people going out and being like, well, we're all going to die, so I'm going to
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be fulfilled.
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I'm going to live my life to the fullest.
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I'm going to go flying.
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And then there's tons of people who are like, this makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable,
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and what makes me feel comfortable is going to fucking work.
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Well, but there's a third path, which is The Purge.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Well, I have nobody saying The Purge isn't available at any given point in time.
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I assume that's in the show, people purging.
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I think there is some purging, yeah.
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Okay.
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But, yeah, it is a really interesting meditation on, like, life condensed, so, yeah, I would
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recommend it.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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You're talking about online things.
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Online things.
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Or TV shows and stuff.
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Sure.
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I saw a trailer for the new Beverly Hills Cop movie.
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I'm sorry, what?
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Right, I didn't realize this was happening.
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Is that four or five now?
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Is that five?
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I think we're on five.
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I'm not sure.
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But I was like, man, who do they get to play Axel?
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Because I thought, like, you're going to hand down the role to somebody.
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There's no way that Eddie Murphy's still going to play Axel.
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The man's in his 60s at this point.
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I did think that.
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I thought, like, wow, that would be a very interesting storyline that they're going to
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need to tell of, like, this old cop or whatever going around putting bananas in tailpipes
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and shit.
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But when they revealed it was Eddie Murphy, I gasped.
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I mean, he still looks great.
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No arguments there.
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No.
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No arguments there.
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No, not at all.
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A man can still star in a movie, absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Don't get it twisted.
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But it was still just such a surprise.
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And that's how I knew that the fever was bad.
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Yeah.
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It was that moved by, like, oh my god, it's Eddie Murphy.
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And then when Judge Reinhold's in it, man.
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I'm sorry, what?
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He's still alive?
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I believe so.
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He's still on the trailer.
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I'm led to believe he is still alive.
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40 to 60% copy.
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Kevin Bacon.
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Kevin Bacon is still going.
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Mm-hmm.
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He still works.
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A lot.
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Anyway, I will not see this.
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No.
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Don't care.
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Yep.
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Nope.
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But I was shocked.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I imagine we'll all probably feel the same whenever Martin Lawrence shows up in Bad Boy
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6.
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Something like that.
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Well, you have to.
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Yeah.
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At Will Smith.
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Yeah.
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You have to.
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Well, I don't know if Bad Boy 6 is going to be able to get Will Smith at that point.
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He'll come back.
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Probably.
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He's that kind of guy.
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Yeah.
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He might not do five, but he'll do six.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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Like a Vin Diesel.
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For sure.
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Not doing Fast and Furious 2.
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Bad Boy's Tokyo Drift.
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Vin Diesel was in that one.
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Oh, he was?
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He was in the end credits scene.
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In Tokyo Drift?
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Oh, that's right.
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That's right.
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When he pulls up, Bow Wow.
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Right.
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When he was Nick Fury-ing as Marvel.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But he didn't want to do two because he didn't do sequels.
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No.
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Oh, how that has come around.
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Too big.
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Too big for sequels.
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Too big, Vin.
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Oh, boy.
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Good times.
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Anyway, Jordan.
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Yes.
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We have an episode to do today.
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Right.
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And I honestly, between the exasperation and the difficulties and the fact that we had,
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you know, our last couple episodes were eight hours of present day monstrosity.
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It does feel like we're losing, yes.
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I decided we're going back to the past.
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Good call.
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So today we're going to be talking about March 29th, 2004.
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And I do think that there is such better content in the past.
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Yeah.
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And I have a theory about it, and we'll work through this as we go along.
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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Crispy Biscuit, aka Hairless Alex Jones, gives off big loser little titty baby
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energy.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, I listen to a lot of Knowledge Fight while traveling in Spain, and now Alex's panicked
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yelping will always remind me of Ibiza.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I thought Ibiza was the island in Greece.
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Isn't it Ibiza?
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Isn't that the party island?
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Uh, wait.
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Do you mean Ibiza?
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Do you think Ibiza and Ibiza are different places?
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I think they are.
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I thought they were.
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No.
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I thought it was a fancy pronunciation of Ibiza.
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Wait, wait, what?
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Now I'm so confused.
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Yeah, me too.
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All right.
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This is a shitty great reset book indirectly got me to finally go back to therapy.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Best outcome ever of that book.
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Yeah, it doesn't get better than that.
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Next, Reverend Xander Lovecraft.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And Chodel Foster.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Happy Birthday Angela from Popcorn Butter, but my bright spot today
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is you as an individual, a mother, a partner, and dead ass.
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Her birthday is in early November.
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Oops.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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I looked it up.
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Yes.
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Ibiza is a pronunciation that British people usually use for Ibiza, which is an island
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in the Mediterranean, which is not, eh, you know what, I really thought Ibiza was in a
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different place.
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That's what's going on here.
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For some reason, I thought it was, you know, maybe it's just because I knew it as a Mediterranean
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island and I just assume everything Mediterranean is around Greece.
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It's greasy.
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No, it is way over there by Spain.
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Way over on the west side near Spain.
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Not too far from like Mallorca and stuff.
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It's near Parma or Palma.
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Palma.
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Excuse me.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, that's my bad.
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All this time, all this time, I'd been aware of it as a house music capital of the world.
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I thought it was over there maybe by Eos and Noxos.
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Let's see.
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What are we talking about?
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I think the first time I encountered Ibiza was on LCD sound systems losing my edge.
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That was the first time that somebody had pronounced it like that and I got so confused
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because I kept seeing it with the Z and he pronounced it Ibiza.
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Yeah.
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See, I associate it.
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I'm not sure.
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Isn't that have to do with, wait, I thought it had to do with like Catalan, nevermind.
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What are we doing?
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What's happening?
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What's happening right now?
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I knew of Ibiza because of my buddy Dr. Gums and I used to smoke a lot of weed and he liked
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this-
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Oh, Weedza.
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He liked these CDs, Cafe Del Mar, that were collections of sort of moody house music and
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shit.
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And it was just like, oh man, we get so high and think about being in Ibiza.
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One day, we'll do a live show at Cafe Del Mar.
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That's what we're going to do.
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That would be fun.
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I bet we could pull off a, fuck yeah.
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No, I don't think we could do it.
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If somebody, oh man, I bet we could pull it off.
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I doubt it.
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I agree.
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So, Jordan, today we got this episode to go over, but first here is now the context drop
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from today's show.
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That's it.
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I'm reading the Declaration of Independence the next hour.
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That's it.
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Wait for the first time?
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No, just on air, he's going to commit a thought crime.
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How long does he make it through?
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He doesn't do it at all.
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Oh, come on.
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Wait, no, actually he reads a couple of the amendments.
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To the Declaration of Independence?
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Yeah, he reads the Bill of Rights.
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The Bill of Rights to the Declaration of Independence?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I do like it as a pronouncement.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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I'm doing it.
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I've had enough.
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I've had enough.
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Got to read the Declaration.
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I like that as a comforting thing.
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You know what, guys?
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I just got to go, and I got to read the Declaration for a while, and then I'll be back and I'll
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be ready to go.
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Got to do some self-care.
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Yep.
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Reading the Declaration of Independence out loud.
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So we start off, and Alex has a big news story that will go the entirety of the show.
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I want to cover this, and I want to take your calls on this subject, and I want you to call
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in on this issue.
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You're welcome to talk about other stuff once you've talked about this, but I rarely say,
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we're going to talk about this, but I really think we should, and again, it's posted right
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now on Infowars.com.
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We just have the news article itself out of News 6 of the big TV station there in New
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Orleans on PrisonPlanet.com, but at Infowars.com, we have some of my commentary added to the
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top of the story and some links to some key documents after it, so I think you need to
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go get that story and email it out to everybody you know, local talk show hosts, local constabulary.
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Because it's a big, big deal.
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Or opens door to searches without warrants, that's the headline.
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Dissenting judge calls ruling, or dissenting judges call ruling the road to hell.
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I don't know, the Soviet Union was a wonderland, I mean, why is he saying that?
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Maybe he's anti-government.
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Oh damn.
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So I understand where Alex is coming from, and maybe on a general philosophical level
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I can agree with him, but he's repeatedly endorsed stop-and-frisk policing in places
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like New York, so maybe you can just calm down a little bit with this sanctity bullshit.
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He's on one.
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So the situation here is about a case out of Louisiana that was recently decided in
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the Fifth Circuit of Appeals.
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I'll give you the basic details, because it's a little bit messy.
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There was this guy named Kelly Gould, who was a known violent felon.
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A guy who knew him called the police and warned them that Gould was planning on killing two
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local judges, and naturally the police acted on that tip and decided, let's go have a little
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chat with this guy.
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They arrived at the trailer where Gould lived, and another resident of the trailer gave them
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permission to enter and look for Gould, who was said to be asleep in his bedroom.
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The officers looked in the bedroom, they didn't see him, and part of making sure he wasn't
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setting up an ambush was to look around under the bed, check the closets, which are open,
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in the bedroom.
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When they did so, they found a bunch of guns, which Gould was not allowed to be in possession
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of because he was a violent felon.
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On account of the violent felonies.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So Gould had managed to get out of the trailer, but police found him hiding in the woods nearby
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pretty quick, at which point he was arrested and consented to a search of his living space.
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Now here's what's at issue with this case.
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Did the officers have the right to search those closets, which is to say, was that an
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appropriate part of doing a protective sweep of the premises?
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Gould's lawyers argued that they did not, and they sought to suppress the discovery
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of the guns as being any evidence that could be used against Gould.
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And the District Court agreed, but on appeal, the Fifth Circuit Court overturned that decision,
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finding that this kind of protective sweep is appropriate in the context that the officers
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were in, where failing to do so could have put them in serious danger.
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The issue was an uncertainty about protective sweeps left hanging after a previous case,
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Maryland v. Bowie.
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That case established that protective sweeps were fine for police to do in the context
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of an arrest, but it didn't specify that they had to only be incident to an arrest.
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That was a potential understanding of the ruling, which was the basis for Gould's
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lawyers' challenge.
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Ultimately, the Fifth Circuit decided that protective sweeps did not have to only be
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done after or in the context of an arrest, but could be done under other, very limited
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circumstances.
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Sure.
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This is not a draconian step towards the police state, but Alex is presenting it that way
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because it involves guns, and that'll sort of become clear as we go on.
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I was going to say, yeah, I feel like, again, the real problem here is this is involving
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a lot of guns.
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That's the major issue.
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It will be teased out eventually that there are a lot of feelings about guns that are
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sort of part of this.
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Sure.
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I respect the need for whatever the law to, you know, that's their job.
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They'll get into it.
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They'll get a hold of my...
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But for me, I feel like the bigger problem here is that guy shouldn't have had all those
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guns.
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I think, you know, assuming that the information was correct, he probably shouldn't have threatened
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to kill judges.
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But that's a bad idea, too!
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Yeah, it's usually someone's going to hear you and tell the police about it.
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Right, right, right.
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And then also, yeah, if you're a felon, you're running a real risk having all those guns.
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But I understand it's important for the protective sweep details.
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Happy for people to work that out.
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We gotta work on the guns first, though!
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I feel like the guns are important!
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So this, also, there's one, there were two judges who dissented, but there was one that
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wrote a dissenting opinion.
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And so this is being attributed to multiple judges said that this was the road to hell.
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Now, the article as it exists says, it doesn't say that, but it does say that, quote, the
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road to hell is paved with good intentions, was something that one of the judges said.
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Now, this article has actually been edited since the time that Alex covered it.
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So Alex is actually covering it correctly that the article said that two judges said
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that this was, quote, the road to hell.
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Right, but they didn't.
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They didn't really.
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It was out of context.
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So the article was updated, but Alex is not wrong.
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He's just wrong.
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Technically speaking, if you do write, the road to hell is paved with good intentions,
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you could be said as to have said this is the road to hell.
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No, and there's another thing that we'll get to later that they do say in the dissenting
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opinion that you can construe in a certain way very loosely to say that this is the road
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to hell.
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Sure.
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So what they did is they were a little loose with their quotations.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it.
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So one of the things that I'm talking about here with the reason that the past is so much
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better on Alex's show is this is a real thing.
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Yes.
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You know, like the stuff that Alex talks about now is just like, who knows what you're fucking
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talking about?
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Yeah.
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It's so disconnected from reality, it's like most of it's from a meme he saw somewhere
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or a vision he had and all this nonsense.
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This is a real world issue.
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This is a person who got arrested for these guns and there is an open question as to whether
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the police's sweep was protected by the, or against the fourth amendment or not.
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Sure, that's interesting.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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There is a potential for real conversation about something here as opposed to like, it's
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a fucking dead end in the present.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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These are made of Jesus's hatred for you because you worship the devil.
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Of course that makes perfect sense.
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And they're giving it to you because you're white and they want to kill you.
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Exactly.
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Yes, obviously.
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Duh.
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All right.
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Yeah?
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Fine.
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Yeah.
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Let's get into it.
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What does the fourth amendment say about that?
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They can't search my blood.
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That's an interesting question.
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So Alex has his own commentary that he has added to this article.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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And I put the comment in here.
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The fifth circuit ruling is criminal, similar to Supreme Court rulings of the past declaring
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black people slaves.
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It is a total violation of the bill of rights and is null and void.
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The US Congress and legislature of Louisiana should call an emergency session to investigate
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possible criminal charges of sedition against those ruling to eradicate the fourth amendment.
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We'll come back, get into the article and take your call.
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Stay with us.
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That's tough talk.
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Yeah.
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Obviously stupid.
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Yeah.
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But Alex has painstaking discussion about the fourth amendment concerns in it, which
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is part of why it was never overturned by the Supreme Court.
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Right.
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It's very much in line with the Constitution.
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Alex is just valid on gun issues, particularly when he can masquerade them as illegal search
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type privacy issues.
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Also, I'm not sure if Alex actually doesn't know this, but the Supreme Court didn't just
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rule one day that black people were to be enslaved.
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Slavery in the US predates the Constitution.
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There were court decisions that upheld slavery along the way, like the Dred Scott case, but
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I worry about Alex's grasp on history a little bit when he says stuff like that.
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Whether he knows what he's talking about or not, the important thing to keep in mind is
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that Alex is just trying to create the image that one day the court came along and took
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black people's freedom away.
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And that's exactly what's happening now because this fifth circuit court's decision about
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protective sweeps.
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It's dumb, but it's emotionally resonant and gives undue weight to the narrative that he's
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selling today.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you don't want to find out that all of your bootstraps talk, it doesn't make any
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sense whenever the entirety of your country is based upon slave labor, you know, from
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its birth to now.
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Before birth?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Colonial time.
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Makes you feel like you're not the person who raised yourself up by your bootstraps
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so much.
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Maybe you didn't build that business.
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Maybe you didn't build shit.
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So, uh, man, this, this made me feel worried.
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Possession is nine tenths of the law.
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Poltergeist.
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The globalists are not following any law.
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The Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Magna Carta, the Ten Commandments, they're
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not following any of America's laws that were founded on.
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I'm sorry, what?
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No, they're simply following the law of pirates as they pull alongside each other in their
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kangaroo international courts, hailing their fellow pirates.
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I mean, mateys, how many skulls in your hole?
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That's how the pirates would hail each other.
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How many slaves have you fed on?
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How many loose fish have you brought upon your decks?
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And we, my friends, are the fish.
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Ahoy, Klaus Schwab.
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Wait, what?
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I do not understand this metaphor whatsoever.
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So the globalists are pirates and we're the fish.
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Right.
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I don't understand your confusion.
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It's crystal clear.
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But pirates don't, are pirates just fish people?
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Yeah, they're just fishermen.
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Okay, fine.
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But they stole the fish.
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Back at Tortuga.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, I gotcha.
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So does Alex actually think that possession is nine tenths of the law?
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Does he think that we're based on the Magna Carta?
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Well, there are some elements that, like, are similar.
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Well, English common law, sure.
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Yeah, I mean, there are things that you can trace.
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Right, right.
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Ideas and things, yeah, but.
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Was honor thy father and mother, though?
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Is that one that America was based on?
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The 10 commandments?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's a lot.
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It's deep in jurisprudence.
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Oh, yeah.
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I care, yeah.
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I'm pretty glad we don't do the blasphemy laws anymore.
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That's nice.
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The possession nine tenths of the law, is that in the Magna Carta?
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I thought it was just a bumper sticker.
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I don't know.
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It's just some nonsense that idiots tell you when they want to steal things from you.
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This is my problem.
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I don't know who said that.
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I don't know why they said it, other than people say it whenever they're stealing shit.
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Yeah, they just, like, take something from you, and they're like, that's mine, man.
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Session nine tenths of the law, it's mine.
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What's a tenth of a law?
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This is so stupid.
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I get that.
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Just say colonialism is fine, because I have a gun and you don't.
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Well, that's why you've got to be worried about people taking your guns.
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See?
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Now, I would ask a second question.
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What's that?
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If possession is nine tenths of the law, and globalists aren't following any law, what
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does possession matter?
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Mmm.
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Ah, boy.
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What a-
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It's a riddle.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, they're pirates, so what do the fish matter?
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Mmm.
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And we're the fish.
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They're nutritious.
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Okay.
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Are they going to eat us?
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I think so.
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Okay.
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I think they do, they just want to make us all criminals.
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They want to criminalize all of us.
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Wait, all the pirates want to make us criminals?
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Right.
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Well, you've got to step out of the metaphor.
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Right.
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Sorry, sorry.
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No longer pirates.
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I was trapped.
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I was trapped.
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They laugh at us.
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It's a big, fat joke, and bureaucrats from the lowliest to the greatest are all shutting
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up their own empires.
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They've been given free rein to expand the police state and the despotism of taxation
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and regulation.
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They are making us all criminals.
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And by doing that, they then strip us of our inalienable rights, our citizenship, our sovereignty,
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and declare us bounty that they can literally feed upon.
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That's what's happening right now.
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Like fish.
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That's what's happening.
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They're not going to be taken away.
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They're not inalienable.
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Small squabble, but Alex is a dick, so I thought I'd throw it in there.
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More to the point, though, what crimes is Alex talking about the globalists charging
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us with where we would lose our citizenship?
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That's some serious shit.
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If you're a naturalized citizen, meaning you weren't born here, there are a number of ways
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you can be denaturalized and be stripped of your citizenship, like if you became a citizen
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by committing immigration fraud or if it's found out that you're funding terrorist groups.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Sure, if you're a citizen by birth, you can only lose that citizenship against your will
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by committing a very small selection of crimes.
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You could attempt to overthrow the government in an act of treason.
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Alex's buddies got charged with something pretty similar to that, and they didn't lose
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their citizenship.
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You actually can't lose your citizenship from that.
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We know.
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Well, that was a conspiracy to commit seditious acts, not necessarily treason, so maybe it's
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a little bit of...
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So maybe you have to do something an order of magnitude greater than January 6th.
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Another option is to join the military of a country that's hostile to the United States.
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Yeah, that'll do it.
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But in many ways, that's less a crime and more of a choice on your part, so that's not
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really losing your citizenship against your will.
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It's honestly pretty much just treason.
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Yeah, I mean, I feel like you don't really need to worry about losing your citizenship
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because you're probably going to die.
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But if you live, I can't imagine you'd be like, eh, I'll just go back home.
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Right.
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Eh, it doesn't seem like you're going to have a good time.
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Yeah.
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I'm pretty sure that a circuit court just made a decision that allows protective sweeps
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in very narrow circumstances, but if you're Alex, it's like, this is the end of the republic
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shit, man.
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Everything has to be that level because he is dramatic.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's interesting.
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I really have never thought about what you could do to lose your citizenship beyond...
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Very little.
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I mean, it is literally like, I get it.
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If you try to end the country, you can't be a citizen of the country.
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That makes sense, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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That's simple.
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Yeah.
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But there's a bunch of things you can do voluntarily.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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You know, but in terms of like crimes you commit, it's pretty much just treason.
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Yeah.
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I can expat.
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You don't have to...
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Why would you need...
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You don't need to lose your citizenship.
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Yeah, you can keep it and you can just leave.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You don't have to try and kill everybody first.
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There are other things too though, like if you go to another country and try and run
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for office there, then you probably will lose your citizenship.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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That's nice.
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So you can't be a citizen of the United States and president of Spain?
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No.
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Okay.
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Gotcha.
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No, I think that would be a problem.
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So Alex, he's going on about this search and seizure type article and this narrative.
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And it turns out we figure out where this all came from.
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And Saturday I went online and they're on the Drudge Report and it's now on Infowars.com
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and PrisonPlanet.com, I saw this headline, Court Opens the Door to Searches Without Warrants.
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This is from the New Orleans News Channel 6 New Orleans, quote, it's a groundbreaking
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court decision that legal experts say will affect everyone.
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Police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief
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search of your home or business.
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Period.
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So Alex likes to pretend that he's out there doing all this deep research and he knows
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the white papers and court decisions and all this stuff, but you saw a headline in the
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Drudge Report.
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Now he's riffing about it.
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Yeah.
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Like, honestly, there's a part of me that's like, this show should just be, it should
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market itself like, do you like the Drudge Report but feel like you want more yelling?
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Right.
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It's just like an after show for the Drudge Report.
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Yeah.
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That's, yeah.
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Talking Drudge.
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Yeah.
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And if he had started with Chris Hardwick, we would be in a completely different world
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right now.
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Uh, and The Walking Dead would still be going on, I assume.
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I don't feel like Chris Hardwick has the yelling potential.
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Sure.
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But that's why you got Alex.
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It's Alex and Chris doing a, doing a talking Drudge show.
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Hmm.
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I don't, I feel like it would, I don't know.
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I don't think that you don't think the Nerdist is going to pick that one up in 2004?
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I don't see it.
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Nah.
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No.
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I don't see the market.
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I'm going to have to pass.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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But still, like there's, there's such a grandiosity to Alex's show and like I have visions and
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like maybe he's not going that hard on that in 2004 and stuff, but he's still pretty full
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of himself.
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Sure.
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And at the end of the day, this entire show is just him rambling about a headline he saw
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in the Drudge Report that he looked into no deeper than the headline.
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No, he might as well be doing, he might as well be one of those Twitch people doing a
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live stream of him just like looking and scrolling through Drudge and just reading shit to people.
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So much more self-important.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Some of those Twitch people are pretty fucking self-important.
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I was going to say, that's, that's out of your, you're out of your mind.
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Those people are nuts.
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Yeah.
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But still, there's something, there's something more about Alex.
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Yeah, you're not wrong.
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It's a different, different.
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It's a different cat.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Type of cat.
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So Alex lies about this and I say lie because I assume ill will, but the reality is he probably
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just doesn't know anything about this.
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In the ruling, the police searched a house without a warrant and the federal court says,
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yeah, those are no longer needed and it doesn't just affect the Louisiana, it affects the
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entire country.
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The court absolutely didn't say anything close to this and the only explanation possible
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here is that Alex didn't read a single thing about this ruling or that he's just lying
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to it willingly to the audience.
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Alex is also either wrong or lying about this ruling applying broadly across the United
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States.
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He absolutely does not.
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It's only really relevant in Louisiana.
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It's a ruling that could be binding upon lower courts within the fifth circuit, which would
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then include Texas and Mississippi, but it has no control outside of that region.
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Unless the matter is taken up by the Supreme Court, it's not the law of the land.
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It exists as a case that could be persuasive to other courts, but that alone doesn't make
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it the law.
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Right.
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In less than 20 seconds, Alex just told the audience two things that were either complete
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lies or things that he got entirely wrong.
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He's a very bad source of information.
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I can't even imagine relying on this guy for truth.
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Yeah.
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Hmm.
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You know, that's interesting to me now, mainly because the more I think about Alex in the
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legal system, the more I want Kafka to come back to life and really try and restart all
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of his shit, but with Alex as his main character.
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I want to see what Kafka's take on Alex trying to navigate life would be.
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There's his Jones cask.
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It would be absolutely...
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I would be interested.
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It would be way more interesting than this, whatever real life is done with Alex.
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I mean, there is a surreality to the path that he's gone on from these early days where
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there's a groundedness to what he's saying to the present, where it's like a fucking
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prophet that is an essential part of a world...
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He's inserted himself as a major figure in the history of Christianity.
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Yes, that is true.
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It's bizarre.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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I believe he's overtaken Joan of Arc in his mind.
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By far.
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By a wide...
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Well, she is...
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He's coming up on Paul.
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He's trying.
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Yeah.
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He's trying.
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Yeah.
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He's nipping at Paul's heels, and Paul created the fucking church.
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He's headed to Tarsus next, and then he's going to make a journey.
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Yeah.
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This is...
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I mean, it's pretty absurd, the lunatic direction that this is all gone, when you really take
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a step back from it and it's easy to get caught up, and you should be caught up, I believe,
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in the reality of the damage and the harm that the present day stuff does to people,
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especially people in vulnerable communities, but you take a step back from it and look
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at the absurd trajectory, and it's something that merits study if we survive.
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You're not wrong.
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So Alex talks a little bit more about this story here, and lies more.
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All right, we'll get to your calls here in just a few minutes.
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For those that just joined us, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, the second highest tier
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in the land, headline, court opens door to searches without warrants, dissenting judges,
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call ruling the road to hell.
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So I want everybody to think about that long and hard.
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And they say, hey, we don't need warrants anymore to search your house or business.
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Just, we're not going to have those anymore.
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You understand that the courts in the past have ruled that black people weren't slaves,
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that Native Americans couldn't have their land.
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Now in retrospect, we know that was wrong.
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In hindsight...
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He knew that too.
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Back then it was...
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They could do whatever they want.
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People saying, no, I don't care how many black ski masks you wear, how many machine guns
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you got, and the captain of the police in New Orleans says that we're going to use this
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immediately.
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They said the new power will go into effect immediately.
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That's a quote.
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Alex kind of slipped up there, accidentally saying that it was wrong for the courts to
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say that black people weren't slaves.
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With anyone else, I would say it's an innocent misspeaking, but with Alex, tragic Freudian
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friendship.
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But more to the point, Alex is continuing just a straight up lie to the audience.
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They didn't say that they don't need to have warrants anymore.
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It's ridiculous.
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Further, Alex is quoting New Orleans police spokesperson Marlon DeFillo saying that the
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power would go into effect immediately, but Alex selectively doesn't include the other
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quote, which is, quote, there are checks and balances to make sure the criminal justice
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system works in an effective manner.
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That's another thing he said, which kind of cuts the other direction.
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And I should tell you that Captain DeFillo would later resign amid severe controversy
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involving the case of Henry Glover.
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Glover was a man who was shot by a rookie police officer a little while after Hurricane
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Katrina.
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Another officer would then set his body on fire inside of a car in an attempt to cover
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up the killing.
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Sure.
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While not necessarily actively involved in any of the cover up, DeFillo was facing disciplinary
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charges for failing to uphold his duty to investigate the killing at the time of his
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resignation.
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Right.
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So anyway, fuck that dude.
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But also, Alex is taking them out of context in this coverage.
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Sure.
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What's interesting here is that there is an opportunity for an actual discussion about
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privacy rights here, and this case could serve as an interesting jump off point.
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The cops had reason to be there and were invited into this house to search for this guy.
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He was a known violent felon and had made threats to murder judges.
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So the police had every reason to be concerned for their safety.
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They were told that he was in that bedroom but didn't see him, which gives a completely
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good faith reason to check to make sure you're not about to be ambushed.
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Should evidence they see in that sweep be able to be introduced into court for something
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he was subsequently arrested for, that's a question right-thinking people can have different
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perspectives on.
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You really can.
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I think so.
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But Alex is depriving the audience of even being able to make up their mind.
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There's no conversation to be had when the baseline presentation of the story is that
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the Fourth Amendment is gone.
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If that is the headline and the story, there's no conversation.
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Alex is just feeding them a completely fabricated version of the story that plays into all the
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same bland police state beats that all of his narratives do.
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He's going to calls not because he wants actual discussion of this case, but because he wants
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people to riff with him about the unchecked tyranny and all the violent fantasies you
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can have about fighting it off.
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That's really more what his show is than anything else.
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It's a place for people to get riled up about misrepresented drudge headlines, all the while
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pretending to be about news and information.
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And it's tragic.
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This is the difference that I'm talking about, about the past and the present.
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There is an opportunity with the subjects and the stories he's covering sometimes for
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an actual conversation to be had about things that are productive.
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We saw this on a recent 2004 episode.
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It happens.
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There are these stories that are like, this is an interesting point where you could make
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headway and you could get me to sort of agree with you, Alex, but you're fucking it up because
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you're covering the story in a dishonest way that leans so heavily towards your extreme
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right wing politics.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It is, it is strange, you know, the living in two different decades, especially whenever
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we're talking about such different time periods and you look at the present because it is
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the present and because you and I are older, obviously, you know, we're more aware of shit.
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We've been living long enough to, you know, have experienced more shit, all that stuff.
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So like the idea of looking back fondly is always something to be resisted strongly.
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But man, 2004, everybody talking in the media is way less obsessed with pedophiles being
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the cause of everybody murdering everybody all the time.
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And the, I mean, man, it was different.
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It was so much more boring for people and it was better when it was boring.
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It was.
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Talk radio should be boring.
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Yeah.
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If you're looking for a couple of weirdos, you don't take that seriously.
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There should be fart noises and boring politics talk.
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Not like, Hey, somebody's finding out where you live and then you're going to die because
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they're a pedophile vaccinator.
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Like, I don't understand you.
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Well that, yeah, if it exists, sure.
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Should be on at three in the morning and it should be some kind of a weird coast to coast
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pedophile vaccinator, whatever, you know, like that kind of a show that, that was better
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when that was a niche market as opposed to an entire political party.
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Right, right, right, right.
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There was a time, there was a time and a place for it.
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It's too much now.
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And now is not the time nor the place.
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No.
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And to your point about looking back fondly and resisting that, I don't think we'll ever
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be able to risk that, resist that again because I think it's all going to be, man, it's all
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going downhill, progressively worse as time goes on.
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I find, you know why I resisted so much is because the baby boomers had the exact opposite
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problem.
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The baby boomers was progressively getting better their entire life and they took it
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for granted and then fucked us all over and now everything is going to get progressively
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worse for our lives.
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What a bunch of assholes.
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But they still, even as everything was getting better, there's the image in your head of
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everything was worse.
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Sure, yeah, yeah.
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That's why they had it backwards.
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Well, nuts.
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So you had some issues about Alex talking about the Magna Carta.
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Sure.
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And he touches back on that here.
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Okay.
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I just want to comment on what you advised us to pay attention to today, this ruling
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by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, U.S. Fifth Circuit.
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Yes.
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And okay, so this is the Alabama, that covers Alabama, right?
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Where the Supreme Court.
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The ruling will cover the entire country, not just the, I don't know, five, six states
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or whatever in the Fifth Circuit.
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Right.
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It covers Texas too.
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It covers him.
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It seems interesting what's being focused on here.
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We lost the Ten Commandments in Alabama, and now they're saying we're losing.
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Where'd they go?
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Well, at least this law, we have these traditions, and they are supported by our laws.
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The law itself.
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The Magna Carta, by the way, brought in what we know is the Fourth Amendment, that a man's
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home was his castle, that the local thug, whose used to tax assessors would shove their
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way in, have their way with your wife, steal your chickens, feed on the public.
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And it got so bad that low-level nobles took the king and said, look, you stopped this
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now.
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And so that's where our Fourth Amendment comes from.
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I'm not sure.
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Is that true?
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I'm not sure if the Fourth Amendment is from the Magna Carta or whatever that means necessarily.
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Like, I don't even know.
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But it is widely understood to be inspired by British legal precedents, like court cases
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that involve searches and seizures.
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Sure.
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Ones that came way after the Magna Carta.
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I mean, wasn't the Magna Carta in the 1500s?
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1200s.
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It was in the 1200s?
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Yeah, it was cases like Entick v. Carrington, which is a big search-and-seizure-related
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case from British law.
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That was in 1765.
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Right.
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So, like, if the Magna Carta had already established all these things, those kinds of cases wouldn't
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have been necessary in the 1700s.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Alex is again showing his non-engagement with civics here.
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He doesn't know if Alabama is in the Fifth Circuit, and he doesn't know how many states
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are.
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I'm not saying that literally everyone needs to have this information at their disposal,
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but if you're someone making the extravagant claims around topics like this that Alex is,
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it's a bad sign if you don't.
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Yeah.
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I'm not going to listen to you when you say, this applies to the entire United States.
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You don't know anything about what you're talking about.
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Yeah, no.
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It's very important for me not to know stuff like that, because whenever people start saying
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stuff like, oh, you see the Fifth Circuit Court, their rulings only matter to this certain
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number of states, I get angry.
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I get mad about it, because then what are you talking about?
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Then there's chaos.
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It could be anywhere.
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It could be anything.
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I get angry because I don't understand this.
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So if I don't know it, who cares?
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It's not going to bother me.
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Well, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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Ignorance of the Fifth Circuit is an excuse for me, because I'm not in there.
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What do you know about the Seventh Circuit?
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I've never even met it.
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You're in it.
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So you've got a case here in the Fifth Circuit.
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Sure.
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And that's out in New Orleans.
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Yeah.
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How many circuits are there total?
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Uh, 12.
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12 circuits?
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Uh-huh.
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Okay.
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Mm-hmm.
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A dozen?
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About.
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What happened?
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So would Puerto Rico have its own?
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Baker's dozen.
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That's what I was saying.
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If we get another circuit.
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I'm not actually sure if Puerto Rico is covered by one of the circuits.
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Sure.
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We'll probably listen to this next clip.
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But you got New Orleans.
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And if you are going to be talking about an issue that affects Louisiana, there's only
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one caller who can help you out with that.
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Louisiana dentures?
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Let's talk to Charles in Louisiana.
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Charles, go ahead.
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How you doing, Mr. Jones?
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Good, sir.
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Well, I see you talking about the new search warrant.
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No need for search warrants.
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Is that big news in Louisiana?
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Well, I call up the sheriff.
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I talk to three policemen.
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I'm sick in my stomach right now, Mr. Jones.
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And what did they say?
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Did they say, oh, it's good.
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We like it.
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Well, they said, they're going to have orders.
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They're like, do you burn trash in your yard and they see smoke?
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You know?
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They got reason to come on there to see, make sure there ain't no fire while they're on
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there they can sweep in your house.
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If you've got a battery landing in your yard or something out of the way, they can give
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you a ticket for it.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yep.
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Getting some good context here.
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So it turns out, I've looked this up, and Puerto Rico is part of the first district.
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So it is covered by the, as is the Virgin Islands, that is a part of the third district.
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And French Guiana, weirdly enough.
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Also, I understood there to be 12, but I'm looking at this map and I'm only seeing 11.
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So I might've been wrong about that.
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Or maybe there's a hidden...
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Maybe one is like DC.
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Yeah, DC has...
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The ultimate district.
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I think DC has its own district, so that might be the 12th or something.
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Right, right, right.
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I'm not sure.
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And I apologize.
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Okay.
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But anyway, Louisiana Dentures has some real insights.
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Yeah.
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If you are burning trash...
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Burning some trash.
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I don't want to make judgments culturally.
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You know, people from people do different things, different places.
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Sometimes trash needs to burn.
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People from other places look at the stuff we do and they go, ah, I shouldn't do that.
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I get it.
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But maybe don't burn trash.
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Burning trash is a bad idea, right?
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Well, what else are you gonna do with it?
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I mean, I don't know, but anything other than just burning it, that's crazy.
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It's toxic.
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It's trash.
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I don't think that if you're burning trash, the police are gonna come and do an unconstitutional
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search of your place.
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I don't want them to even look at your place.
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I want them to deal with you burning all your goddamn trash all the time.
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Well, I mean, it might be against the law in some places.
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So Alex, talk some more to Louisiana Dentures here.
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Sure.
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Charles, the gentleman Charles.
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I like him.
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And I should note that I explained this case to you with Gould and the reason that this
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all came about.
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Yes, you did.
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Alex has yet to.
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He has not mentioned anything about the case or what the grounds for this is.
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No details whatsoever.
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And Charles is the first to bring these up.
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Gotcha.
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But here's the thing about it.
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When you talk to them, they got, if any excuse, and when they come into your yard, if anything,
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they can come, they can say, I want to tweak the house.
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What happened was somebody, let me tell you how it started, a guy, somebody said, somebody
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threatened a judge.
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And so they went into the house, knocked on the door, and there was an ex-felon, he had
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three rifles under the bed.
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And they swept the house.
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See, that's how it works.
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It's always some criminal.
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So because they were bad, all of us lose our freedoms.
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Yeah.
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So the first one, he threatened somebody, and he went and took the house, went and got
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all his guns and all that.
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When they could have bought the threat, gone and gotten the warrant.
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Yes.
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Well, they don't need nothing.
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If you burn trash, or if your kid's running too fast, or if he's in the tree, or anything
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that might be dangerous, they could pass, or your kid's in that tree, or shouldn't be
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doing it.
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By the way, we want to see your house.
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If you got too many dirty dishes up in the sink, they're going to get in touch with,
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you know, the PC.
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Now, did they tell you this?
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Yes.
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They said any, they're going to make an appointment when they come out.
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Finally coming out against dirty dishes.
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You can go for you, or he's going to get you.
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So now just safety checks of the home.
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Yes.
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And what did you say to them when they said that?
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I said, well, man, you know, this is unconstitutional.
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I said, well, while you're doing this, who's going to be doing this to your sister and
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your mother?
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What if you get thrown off the police force, were they going to do this to you?
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What did they say to that?
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Well, they just kind of, well, we didn't make the law.
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We didn't make the law.
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Yeah.
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Just following all does.
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Stay there, stay there.
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We'll be right back.
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What did they say?
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We just work here, man.
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I don't know what to tell you.
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Yeah.
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Police come out and do a sweep.
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Ooh.
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All the dishes are done.
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I'm going to give you good merits.
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I mean, yeah.
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This is going to go in your good file.
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I feel like some of the examples that guy gave give me pause.
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A little petty.
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Because, well, because they seem petty, but now they make me concerned because he's like,
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oh, they're just your kid in a tree.
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It's like, ah, is it just your kid in a tree?
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What are you talking about?
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Actually, sir.
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Are you keeping a kid in a tree?
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Be more specific.
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Are you forcing that kid to be in a tree?
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That's what I want to know.
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Mm-hmm.
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You're just telling me kid in a tree, and I feel like you are not a trustworthy narrator.
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Where do you learn the most life skills in a tree?
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See, now we're getting more details, and I like it less and less.
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Speaking of details, it seems like this is the first time Alex has heard these details
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about this case.
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Yeah, he does not, it does not, it surprises him to know that he is actually fine with
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them getting those guns away from that guy.
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Because he agrees, that guy is like, oh, they always pick the guy who you should take guns
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away from, and then they use it to take away people's guns that you shouldn't take them
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from.
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Yeah, and Alex does actually make a fine point, and that is that they could have done a search
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based on a warrant, based on the threats that they had gotten reported to them, but that's
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the issue.
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They didn't intend to search.
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They went over to talk to the guy.
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Yeah, they just want to be like, hey.
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It was incidental.
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You're going to kill some judge?
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You're going to kill some judge?
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We got some information about you, we want to come talk to you, tell you don't kill that
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judge.
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It's probably more than a phone call.
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Well, but yeah, I don't know, I've never been in law enforcement, certainly, I don't know
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what the best strats are, but I think that maybe it's an appropriate thing to not descend
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on him with the SWAT team over a hearsay accusation that somebody made.
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There could be somebody who's trying to set this guy up.
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There are explanations for the tip that they got that don't involve this guy actually wanting
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to kill judges, so there might be reason to not approach this with, I'm going to get a
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search and arrest warrant to go in, maybe you soft play it a little bit.
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Man, these people have no fucking clue.
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They have no fucking clue that somebody's going to be playing video games on Twitch
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ten years from then, and another kid's going to be like, hey, guess what, let's send a
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SWAT team to his fucking house.
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True.
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That's crazy these people are nuts.
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Welcome to the past, assholes, I want to scream at the past now.
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Back then it was just sending pizzas to people's house.
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What a crazy prank that used to be.
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Yeah.
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Real bad.
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Yep.
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But people did it.
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So Alex lies a bit more about this story, and then Charles has a very tragic turn.
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All right.
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A high level federal court, the fifth circuit court of appeals ruled there is no more fourth
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amendment.
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They said that the police can search your house or home or business anytime they want
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for any reason.
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This is a nationwide, let's see the criminals now and try to carry it out and they'll have
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lots of good examples.
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Oh, we caught a bad criminal.
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We did this.
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It's see, the fourth amendment was bad and a court opens door to searches without warrants.
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Presenting judges calls ruling the road to hell.
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The fencer ruling is criminal, similar to Supreme court ruling to the past, declaring
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black people slaves is a total violation of the bill of rights and is null and void.
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The U S Congress legislature of Louisiana should call an emergency session to investigate
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possible criminal charges of sedition against those ruling to eradicate the fourth amendment.
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The problem is these judges are all part of the same system and so are the people in Washington
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and Louisiana.
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And it's just an incredible article from the new, the new Orleans news channel six.
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There's also an article we're told we're getting that posted out of the Baton Rouge.
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What newspaper is that Charles, that you were looking at the whole article on this Saturday?
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This was the what?
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I want to advocate the child.
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Oh,
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Hey, that's all right. Go ahead and put her on the line. If she wants to give us a website
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and you have the newspaper there in front of you, just don't worry about it. Don't worry
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about it.
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I thought we were going to get to hear from miss, uh, uh, miss Louisiana. Got to hear
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her in the background, but I thought we could add another character to our, that would have
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been nice. Are we a Rolodex lady, Louisiana. Yeah. But you see, Alex has fully established
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his talking points here. The court decided the fourth amendment is gone and this applies
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to the whole country. The boom set, you notice a little slick move. He pulled there though.
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He starts reading off his own commentary about this, the stuff about the law being null and
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void in the same voice as if you were reading from the article and then he doesn't cite
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it as being his own meaningless opinions, but instead mentions an article. This is intentional.
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He's trying to pass that off as something more authoritative than his own dumb thoughts.
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Feel bad for Charles though. I would like to see a, I would like to see one court system,
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one court circuit charge an entire another court circuit with sedition and then just
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see what happens there. I don't think you could. I mean, I don't even know what the
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mechanics of that would be either, but let's find out. I think, wait, I think what winds
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up happening? Celebrity death match. Well, I mean, I think that it obviously has happened
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before that a circuit court will make a ruling and then it goes to the Supreme court and
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then it's ruled unconstitutional or whatever, like that happens. And then it just is not
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done. So that's the Supreme court ruling. These people seditious. They ruled something
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that is against the constitution. Sure. But I mean like, you know, you know, in a nice
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way. Yeah. Not an angry, yelly way like Alex would want. Right. So Alex gets done with
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Charles, which I mean, I feel bad if you listen carefully, he's spelling advocate, right?
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And you can make out that he's saying advocate. It would have been very clear if Alex just
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hadn't talked over him real, real railroading there. Yeah. But Alex, Alex gets off the call
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with him and gets really pumped up to go to another call and then it just deflates immediately.
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I want to hear from police on this. I'm going to open your calls quickly. None of the lines
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are loaded. I want to hear from police, good police, bad police, whatever. Do you agree
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with this? What's wrong with you? Excuse me, Alex. I'm a bad police of the constitution
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for the Bella rights are better. It's fun to uphold these values. This is the heart
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of America. Let's go ahead and talk to him in Pennsylvania. Go ahead. Yes. Hello, Alex.
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I've seen the passion of the Christ and I appreciate Mel Gibson's works, but tell me
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it isn't true. He's supposed to have said we will not get to heaven unless we belong
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to the church. Number one, I asked the first, the show that we talk about the fourth amendment.
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I rarely say that I talk about an issue. So you talk about that first, then we'll talk
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about what you called in about. I don't want to talk about that. I mean, yeah, that's fair.
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That's that is the fairest I think I could feel for Alex right there. Why? Just legitimate.
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I'd be like, you know what? I really don't want to talk about this right now. I made
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that clear. I don't want to talk about this right now. Yeah. But when you're Alex and
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you're like, you know, I, I know everything I share, you know, you kind of lose your ability
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to credibly deflect. I agree with you on that front. Um, so, but to Alex's credit, uh, this
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guy complains about George W. Bush a little bit. And then Alex does let him speak his
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piece on Mel Gibson. Uh, he doesn't actually, Alex speaks his piece for him. Good. So Alex
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does at least address it. Here's that. Okay. Let me take your passion. Let me take your
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passion thing real quick. I'm not a Catholic. I think Mel Gibson's great. Look at the fruits
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of what he's done. I think that, you know, his, his father, uh, is a patriotic guy who's
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been misrepresented and lied about a lot. Okay. That's the facts there. Uh, and Mel Gibson
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was quoted in the press and others have been quoted that that was a lie. He didn't say,
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I don't know my wife's going to get into heaven because she doesn't belong to the church.
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Okay. Yeah. So I just think it's more wanting to get people fighting with each other. Thanks
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for the call. Thanks. You bet. Good to hear from you. Okay. Well, Mel Gibson's dad has
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not been taken out of context. He's a rabid anti Semite Holocaust denier. Alex just kind
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of likes those sorts of people further. Alex is completely lying about Mel's comments.
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Mel Gibson absolutely said that his wife might be going to hell from an interview he did
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with the Herald Sun quote, there is no salvation for those outside the church. I believe it.
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Put it this way. My wife's a Saint. She's a much better person than I am. Honestly.
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She's like Episcopalian church of England. She prays, she believes in God. She knows
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Jesus. She believes in that stuff and it's just not fair if she doesn't make it. She's
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better than I am, but that's a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it. That is, that
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is the most honest religious statement I've ever heard from, from any of these people.
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That is the most honest and true biblical profession of faith that I can think of. It
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is a little bit of like, at least you're taking the rough. I mean, it is what it is. I'm telling
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you about the book, right? It's what I told. It's what I'm told to do. I'm doing what I'm
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told. So now you actually have to believe me when I say that I think God does not give
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a fuck about anybody. God's big on these technicalities. Absolutely doesn't give a fuck about you. Could
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be great. I bet you could save a million lives. God would rather see you in hell than just
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have you say, nah, I'm not into you. I'm not into the church. Period. Yeah. So Alex knows
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that his audience is pretty opposed to the mainstream churches and at this point they're
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pretty anti Catholic church. So it's pretty hard to rationalize supporting someone who
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believes stuff like what Mel Gibson just said. Yeah. Particularly when you're trying to make
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such a big deal out of the movie that that guy just made about Jesus. In order to get
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around this pretty difficult situation, Alex just lies. Out of thin air, he pulls some
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publicist ass line about Mel being taken out of context and asserts it is real. The shithead's
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greatest trick when they're cornered is just insisting they were taken out of context.
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For some reason that actually works on people. I don't get it, but it is, it is magical almost.
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You saw it as a defense for literally everything Alex said in his trial, which didn't actually
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work. But people who weren't involved with the court proceeding are persuaded by it.
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People like Elon Musk are persuaded by it. Rogan is tricked by this dumb bullshit. Like
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I watched a CNN interview with RFK Jr. the other day and you just saw him doing the same
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tricks. This is taken out of context. I'm all out of context. Yeah. And it's just people
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gotta, people gotta not accept that as an answer. Well, I don't think people accept
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it as an answer. I mean, I think people love to tell themselves that they do, but I think
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probably the reality is the reason that it doesn't work in court isn't have to do with
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like, oh, it has to be facts or anything like that. It has to do with the fact that the
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jury is not allowed to be friends with people. Right? That's what it is. Like when JF, whenever
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those, whenever those assholes show up and they're like, oh, it took me out of context.
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Their friends are the people who say, oh yeah, of course they took me out of context. To
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be fair, this is the way you signal that you like people is you believe they're bullshit.
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This interviewer was pretty hostile towards the, or adversarial at least as a, as a journalist.
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Sure. So like that was not a friendly, friendly interaction, but that I could see in the exchange
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the way that people who want to like RFK Jr. will accept that as a blanket carte blanche
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for all this insane stuff he's saying. Yeah. He's my friend and you're my enemy. So I'm
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going to believe my friends lies and I'm going to call you a liar even if you're telling
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me the truth. Right. And in a jury or in the trial, you know, it's like, I have to sit
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here quietly and not talk to anybody about this and just actually listen to what I'm
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told is actually happening. And I can't be like, oh, I like this person more, so fuck
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it. You know, it's tough. Yeah. Speaking, speaking of courts, Rudy, America's mayor,
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Giuliani just got hit with a big old defamation. I, I saw that and I, I, I, my brain, maybe
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it was cause I was dealing with food poisoning, but I inserted a, um, a period in it. So I,
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I saw the headline and it was like, Rudy owes 14.8 million or something like that. I was
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like, Ooh, bad day. I saw another headline. It was like 148. Ooh, worst day. It's bad
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when it was 14. Eh, but I don't know. He should, for people who are just going to die soon,
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that's not fair. But also, you know, Alex has kind of given a method for everybody to
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just avoid shit. Yeah, just not do it. Hey, uh, come get me. Yeah. What are you going
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to do? Are you going to send the cops to get money from me? No, you're not. You're a coward.
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It seems, it seems hard to imagine why a lot of people wouldn't just use the Alex method
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to, I mean, I can't imagine respecting a courtroom ever again for as long as I live. I would
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shit talk a judge. Fuck you. You pieces of shit. That is fun for you. I will continue
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to respect courts. They lose their losers. They're just bullies. I loved smash cut to
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you in court. Like, yes, I'm done. I'm done. You'll never take me alive. I'd rather die
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than get into a courtroom. This is you on air. Oh no, I, I can't go into a cage, man.
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I can't, they'll get me. This is the more real side. They'll fucking get me. I gotta
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die first. Oh, nice robe. So, um, Alex gets another call and this is a troubling thing
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for anyone to hear when you're in a position like Alex. Uh, let's go ahead and talk to
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Kim in Texas. Kim, go ahead. Hi Alex. I was calling to see what, under what condition
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did this guy get it to the appellate court on his case? Okay. The fifth circuit just
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says that, and this is nationwide, by the way, they were ruling on a particular case
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in Louisiana and they said they're going to use it there. This just says that if they
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feel like it or if it feels like it's for their safety, they can just go ahead and search
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anybody's house or business without a warrant. This is a massive evisceration of the fourth
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amendment. What's the name of the case? I wonder what's the name of the case. It's actually
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here in the staff. We also, we also, and I don't have this in front of me, but I'm told
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by my webmaster, we posted it. We also have another Louisiana news article about it, not
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just news six. Okay. Okay. That's what I wanted to ask. I wanted to research it myself. Thank
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you. We will get that. I believe it's already posted. If it's not, we'll get it posted.
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Thank you. You bet. Good to hear from you. I appreciate the call. Let's go ahead and
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take another call. Hey Alex, what's the underlying information of this? Well, let me actually
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just repeat my talking points. Let me launch back into, well, here's the deal. The fourth
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amendment is gone because this court has said so. Yeah. What's the case? I'll dig it out.
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Yeah. That is interesting. Whenever you haven't yet fully trained an audience to not even
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ask. Yeah. Yeah. There's still like little blips. People still pop up being like, you
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know what? I want to follow up on that, Alex. That's not, take it seriously. When you say
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do your own research, you're not long for this show. No, probably not. No. So another
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caller has a question about the fifth circuit. Yeah. And this is weird because it's a valid
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question. And then Alex has no idea what this guy's talking about and then explodes. Okay.
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Edward and Illinois, go ahead. Oh, how are you doing Alex? Good. I got a question about
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this court of appeals case that was in the fifth circuit, right? Fifth circuit. I watched
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60 minutes last night and they did a piece on Charles Pickering. Is that Charles Pickering
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circuit? I don't believe so. No, that went to the, are you talking about the case with
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having to show an ID? No, this was the one where they were, they were kind of making
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Charles Pickering look like a good guy and making Charlie Schumer look like a bad guy.
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Give folks some background. Give folks some background. We're not all inside your head.
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Give us some background. Okay. Well, I watched, I was just, Charles Pickering was the judge
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that there was all this controversy over that the Bush administration wanted to have him
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in the court of, some court of appeals, I think the fifth district. And they didn't
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want him in there because he had lowered the, you lowered the... You stay there. We'll cover
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you back. I get it though. No idea why you're so mad. No, I get it. That's, that's a very
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frustrating way to have a conversation with somebody. I don't think so. That's your grandma
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being like, oh, it was the guy from the movie. No, not the movie that you're talking about.
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The movie that I saw the other day where you weren't there. It is not nearly that. It appears
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to be that because we're 20 years removed. Sure, sure. No, no, no. That's I know. If
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you had been around then this name would have been a lot more relevant because Charles Pickering
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was somebody who was nominated by George W in 2001 for the fifth circuit court, but Dems
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controlled the judiciary committee at the time. So the nomination stalled. W nominated
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him again in 2003 with the GOP in charge of the judiciary committee and his nomination
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made it to the Senate. The Democrats in the Senate decided to filibuster his nomination
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due to concerns over his stated opposition to abortion and some dicey racial issues in
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his past. This was a pretty big deal in the news even more so because in January, 2004
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Bush circumvented that filibuster by giving Pickering a recess appointment to the fifth
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circuit. This is like in the middle of that recess appointment that the episode we're
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listening to is happening. It was just a few months prior to this. So the name Charles
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Pickering, the fifth circuit, this shouldn't be like, are you speaking some foreign language to
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me? It shouldn't be like your grandma talking to you about some X, Y, or Z tertiary character
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on some soap opera. It's not like that. No, especially not for Alex. That should be
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really, really important. That whole, I mean, for all of, if you're going to be mad about
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the unconstitutional or constitutionality of a cop looking in your closet or underneath
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your bed, you should also probably be mad about the president just randomly appointing
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some asshole and nobody can do anything about it. As far as all your checks and balances
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stuff go, that's well and good, but come on. Well, I mean, you could make an argument that
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the idea of a neo con globalist like George W. Bush being able to handpick and force through
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people onto this court is a contributing factor to why this decision could have been made.
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You'd think so. This does seem like another instance of Alex not really having a robust
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understanding of the issues that he's talking about and presenting himself as an expert.
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And I just, I mean, he was mad. He was mad. That was real mad. Yeah. Maybe it's cause
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he got made to feel real stupid. It could be. It could be. So we get another caller
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and this guy, he just, he set off my, one of my little alarms, one of my little bells
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that I have with these fucks. I'm a human being. You hear me? And I know you're criminals
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and I know you're a bunch of thugs out of control and I know history and we stand against
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you. You mob of crooks, pieces of filth. Let's go ahead and talk to Paul in Florida. Paul,
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go ahead. Yeah, Alex. I have to say that I'm with you. This is very, very concerning. I don't think
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that one 10th of 1% of the people in this country realize what this means. And if you look at this,
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if this follows the problem, reaction, solution scenario, like they always do, the reaction is
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going to be that a cop or two or 50 or a hundred are going to get killed going into people's
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houses. And then the solution is going to be no more guns. Anything else you want to add?
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Just think about that. That's not very pretty. And I hope they don't come to my house.
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All right. Thanks for the call. Are we free human beings? Is this still America?
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So this is kind of what Alex would have wanted to get to, you know, the part where they ruminate
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about how they're going to kill cops if they come into their homes. Yeah, that's the fun part.
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Tragic timing for the commercial to hit right when that plane landed. You can tell Alex is a
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little bit deflated, but I want to hit on this problem, reaction, solution thing. None of these
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fucks understand the basic concept that they're talking about, but the words are so smart to them
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that they can't help but apply it incorrectly to every situation. In this framework of looking at
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the world, there's a problem, which is inevitably caused by the globalists. In response to that
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problem, the public has a reaction, which is almost always to demand that the government do
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something about the problem. Then the government comes in with the solution, which is what they
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wanted to do to begin with. The solution is some kind of horrible unpopular legislation that the
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globalists know that they could never pass without some kind of massive public outcry.
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So in order to get it passed, they caused this problem, which elicits the reaction of the public
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making that outcry. Right. The classic example is with 9-11. The globalists wanted to pass the
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Patriot Act, but knew they couldn't. So they did 9-11 in order to terrorize the public into
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demanding the government to do something to protect them. 9-11 is the problem, the public
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demand for safety is the reaction, and the Patriot Act is the solution. This is a really important
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way for conspiracy theorists to understand world events because it gives narrative structure to
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everything that happens in a way that's really easy to understand. And yet, every time I hear
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it brought up, these fucks have no idea what the problem, reaction, or solution is supposed to be
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in any of this. In this case, the reaction is not going to be people killing cops. That would be the
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problem, which would then lead to the reaction of massive public support for firearm legislation
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bringing about the solution of gun control, which is what they wanted in the first place. Right.
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I know I probably sound a little bit pedantic here, but this is a fundamental conspiracy
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concept, and it bothers me how little respect these people have for the syntax of their own
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ideas. Like, David Icke would be pissed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because in the conception
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that I believe he's trying to say right now is that the problem is people have guns, right? Or
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patriots have guns. No, but that is- The reaction is people want the cops to take patriots' guns,
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and then the solution is the cops take patriots' guns. But at no point in time
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does it- Yeah. No, I think a cleaner way of what he's saying is the problem is this Fourth
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or the Fifth Circuit ruling. Sure. The problem is that the reaction is killing cops when they
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come to your house, and the solution is gun control. Right. But that doesn't work because
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the problem isn't- That's not what- That circuit decision, it doesn't qualify as one of the
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problems in the way that the problem reaction solution fundamentally unfolds. Right. It's just
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a little bit of a problem that I have with these fucks. I just can't take it when they don't even
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play their own game. Well, yeah, because I mean, yeah. Okay. The idea is that the problem and the
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solution are the same thing, created by the same people for the disregard of the reaction, right?
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Because if things were allowed to happen on their own without this problem solution, the reaction
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wouldn't even exist. No. People wouldn't want guns taken away from people. But again, the way they
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describe this, the problem is fundamentally that people have guns. That is the problem
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that the globalists have with Americans. Right. But it is not a problem in the problem reaction
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solution sense. Right. The words are the same in terms of letters. Right. But they don't mean the
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same in terms of this. This is what is behind all of the false flag terrorism and stuff. Those are
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all problems that are supposed to elicit a reaction, and the government can come in with
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the solution. Right. That's behind all of this. The passing of a Fifth Circuit Court decision
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doesn't apply to the level of false flag type stuff that's supposed to elicit a reaction.
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Yeah. And in order for this to work, there needs to be two reactions, because for what this guy is
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saying, there's the Fifth Circuit Court decision, which is the problem, and then the reaction is
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people kill cops when they come to their house. Then there needs to be another reaction, which is
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the public overwhelmingly supports gun control. And then they pass gun control. I guess I got
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this backwards. Right. Because I thought the original problem was the guy, the criminal has
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guns in his place. The reaction is the cops then get to overstep their boundaries and people are
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okay with it because the guy was a criminal. And then the solution is the Fifth Circuit Court's
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decision. See, now that's interesting. You're trying to apply it to the actual case, which
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Alex really hasn't even discussed. That's right. I continue not remembering that.
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Right. No, that is not necessarily... Let me see if there's a way we could make that work.
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Because I thought that's what that guy was talking about.
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No. Is that essentially they created the scenario where the criminal has guns.
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There's too many other variables involved in order for this to fit.
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We're maybe digging a little too deep in here.
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For this to work in terms of what you're saying, applying it to what he's saying,
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like combining those two, you need it to be like problem, problem, reaction, problem,
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reaction, solution. Reaction, solution. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's not clean.
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Because the way it would go is it'd be the problem is the guy has guns. The reaction is the cops take
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the guns. The solution is the Fifth Circuit Court. But that is actually the problem. The reaction to
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that is shooting cops. And then the solution is more of the Fifth Circuit. And that reaction
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would lead to people shooting cops. And that solution... Wait.
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See, it's dominoes. It might be a problem.
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So Paul Joseph Watson comes in to ride shotgun with Alex.
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Gotta do it. Check the waterfront.
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Of course. Mostly just whine about this article.
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Read Drudge. Yeah.
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Maybe the actual article. Paul might actually have read it.
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Paul Watson, I haven't been this hot in a long time, even when they wanted to pass a bill to
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put everybody in forest labor camps. That's word for word. Forest work camps.
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Forest labor camps?
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And, you know, the attempted martial law in Rhode Island. I mean,
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all of this to have them come out and do this right out in the open is despicable.
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Well, as the dissenting judge has said, it is the road to hell.
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But what's interesting about the original article that we posted from News Channel 6
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is that they've actually gone in there and amended the article. And they've
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taken out the quote where the two dissenting judges called this the road to hell.
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Wait a minute. Now, this came out on Drudge everywhere else yesterday.
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We copied it and posted it this morning. And you're telling me now that you've got...
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that they... Oh, you've got to write an article about how they changed that.
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Aha! A new article. So Paul makes an interesting allegation here,
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that the article removes the fact that multiple dissenting judges called this,
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quote, the road to hell. I'd been just going off the article, so maybe the version that I'd seen
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was the edited one. And one of the best ways to deal with this is I just consulted the actual
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opinion from the Fifth Circuit. Would help.
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And there's just one judge who wrote the dissenting opinion who makes the comment
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about a road to hell. He says that adage about being paved with good intentions and then says,
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quote, in my view, the gambit of getting permission to enter a citizen's home in order
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to talk to somebody and then conducting a protective sweep search under the guise of
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sensing danger to the investigating officer will effectively eliminate the need for complying with
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the Fourth Amendment. And at that point, we will be literally and figuratively on the road to hell.
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I'll say it's a little close, at least. Yeah. I would give that in the margin of error.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when you think about what an editor is doing.
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Sure. You can understand why you
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might change that from the verbiage in the article being two dissenting judges called it,
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quote, the road to hell. Yeah.
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That's not really a precise or accurate necessarily quoting of this.
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It is maybe technically words that were quoted. However, it gives the impression of something
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that did not happen. Yeah. But and I think it's a little dramatic
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on the initial writers. Sure, sure.
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And then also on Alex's. It's always nice to give a good road to hell speech, though.
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Sure. It's paved.
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Hate it when they pave that shit. Yeah.
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Who pays them to do it? Right.
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Who pays the pavers? Well, it's a good question.
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We got to get to the bottom of this. But first, Paul has actually some knowledge of the underlying
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case. So he talks about that a little bit. All right.
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Well, what they've actually added to the article is the phony justification for it,
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which is the case of, as you've been mentioning on the show in the past few segments, the case
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of a man named Gould who supposedly threatened to kill judges and police officers.
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But then for everybody else, see, it's for their safety. Now for everybody else,
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no more warrants. And you always have that excuse. It's so sick.
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And what basically happened is that they went to his home. Somebody answered the door, presumably
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his wife. She agreed that they could enter. They approached the man's bedroom and seeing
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that he wasn't in there, they started opening all these closets.
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So it worked there. Do it to everybody else. That's not how America works. See their excuses.
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So I guess we should get rid of all police then because we've caught some police,
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raping, robbing, and killing and dealing drugs. So let's get rid of all the police because
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some were bad. But I mean, ultimately this is obviously about confiscation of firearms
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because that's the point where they went and arrested Gould after they found the three
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firearms in his closet. They no longer will need the warrants to get
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in everybody's house to get the guns as they ban them.
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Bingo. So Paul has some details wrong. Like it wasn't this guy's wife who let the police
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in, it was his roommate, but good on him finally making the pivot towards what this is actually
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about, which is how badly the man wants to take Alex's guns. Right. More importantly,
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though, he's saying that this article added in the quote phony justification for the decision,
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which is the entire case that this is based on. It's not phony justification. It's the
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whole story. It's the in question justification. It's the point. Yeah. Gould getting arrested
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is not the justification to some shadowy cabal used to make a power move. It was the situation
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that played out that's being heard by the court. I guess you could assume, if you assume
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that everything is some elaborate plan put in place by an evil group, then how could
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anything be a genuine cause for any effect? That's a good point. There's no way they
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could actually consider for a second that it could have gone either way. Yeah. Yeah.
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Everything by definition has to either be some stage shit or phony justification in
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service of reaching the evil goal of the evil group decided to get to. That's a really
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dumb way to deal with information. Without understanding the specs of this, it's not
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understanding the specifics of this case. You cannot possibly engage with the reasoning
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for the decision. You're left to ramble and make up stuff about how it's secretly
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about how the man wants to steal your gun and all this stuff. You're left. You're,
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you're at sea without a paddle. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. Also Alex's analogy about getting
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rid of the police because there's some bad ones doesn't really logically track. The
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ruling doesn't say that because Gould was a felon, he had no fourth amendment rights
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and that he could be searched without a warrant. It's a very narrow ruling related to specific
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situation that the officers found themselves in. It's not saying that because a certain
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group were bad, they are punished, but that's another conclusion you might come to if the
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extent of your awareness of this case is skimming a drudge headline and being really mad. Also,
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let's take the guns out of the equation. Sure. Let's imagine that the exact same scenario
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happened and they found a head. Yeah. Then what? Well, I mean, but then, okay. The other
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thing though is then imagine the exact same scenario, but they found weed. Then what?
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Right. You know, so the, I, the problem here is again, it's actually guns. The problem
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is guns for guns for Alex, for me, for you. They shouldn't be going, they shouldn't be
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going into your shit. Absolutely. I'm fine with that. So you, but if there are guns there,
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well shit, I'm not going to say, don't go get those fucking guns. Well, I don't know
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if they go get weed. You're fucking, what are you doing? I don't, I don't know. I don't
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know if I fully agree with you. I do think that if you, there should be degrees. I would,
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I would say that if you're doing a protective sweep in a situation where you fear for your
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life and you see weed, it shouldn't rise to the level of like, we need to consider this
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as part of the search. Right. If you, if it's a violent felon and there are guns and this
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is, you're going there because he's allegedly planning to kill judges, then there's extenuating
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and surrounding circumstances that make that total more of a, it's not necessarily just
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you see a gun and you've got to take it seriously. It's the circumstances. Right, right, right.
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But here's what I'm saying. I'm asking for Alex's behalf. What if you find a head? Whose
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head is it? Someone's. I mean, it's not the cop's head and so it's not really their business.
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Now is it right? Does Alex believe that this person should be protected from this search
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if they find a head while they're in the house? Because they got this tip about this guy and
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they thought he was in that room. She wanted to see you make sure they weren't being set
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up for an ambush. Then they find a head. I see now this isn't that Alex can be so precious
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about this. I find that example so interesting just because I feel like there's gotta be
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so many things that happen before you get to head. You know what I'm saying? Like what
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I'm saying is as far as the cops coming in and searching seizure, the roommate, when
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the cops talk to the roommate, the roommate's going to be like, his room smells like there's
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a fucking head in there. You know what? There's a lot more going on when it's a head. Right.
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Guns are quiet and they don't make a noise or smell. Don't messy the table that I'm presenting
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this meal on. Don't get lost in the weeds. Now I'm in the mood of like, what if I found
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a head in my house? I'm trying to delineate that this is about guns for Alex, not about
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the reality of the nature of this. Absolutely. Well, that's why we could have a very interesting
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conversation about this very specific ruling, but Alex can absolutely not. Probably not.
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So Paul believes that the context that's added to this article is just bullshit justification.
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And this dynamic between Alex and him, I think is really fascinating. Yeah. In the original
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article, this is why they did it. In the original article, the original article simply stated
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the court case. They didn't go into the details. They simply said, due to this lawsuit, they
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now have the provision to go in your home without warrants. They didn't give the justification
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that this guy was, you know, threatening to kill people. So then that justifies it in
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the minds of the sheep out there. But yes, they've gone in and changed the article to
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the effect where they've removed the dissenting judges comment. I mean, how do the cops sit
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there sucking their thumbs and go, I want the old lady stun gun now that I've gotten
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her done. Cause I'm not safe. Cause one of the sheep has something to defend themselves.
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I mean, they want everything we've got. And then the federal courts and state courts say
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the police have no liability to protect us. And every cop listening knows that. And I
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don't expect you to protect me. You can't. Why do you even want my stun gun now? And
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you won't be able to come in my house without a warrant. You've destroyed this country.
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You make me sick. You cowardly filth. And again, as we've covered before, it's the gradualism
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from the public servant, from the police officer. What does it like?
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For you to watch your country being destroyed, watching your police being turned into goons.
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Go ahead and say what you're about to say. So I just, I find this so interesting. First
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of all, the, uh, adding of context to a article weird is somehow a cover up or justifying
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of the it's very, it's very bizarre, but I do believe that it exists because context
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is the enemy of info wars. So for them, it is always a nefarious thing to add context,
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to, to understand the situations that they're actually talking about. But more interesting
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to me is this two man team thing where Paul is trying to like, just be kind of a straight
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news person and give a, you know, this, these, the British accent, very, very calm and Alex
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is faking these emotional outbursts, like going back and forth.
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There's something very intentional about it that is, I find it unappealing to listen to,
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but I can understand why someone might've gotten something out of it. Like there's the
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catharsis of Alex and then there's the bringing you back to feeling like you're listening
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to something grounded and rational when Paul comes in and then Alex gets you excited again
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and then Paul has a little bit of information and then Alex is like, oh, right.
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You're describing us, but fake you're describing fake lying versions of us doing our show poorly.
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Yeah, maybe. That might be it. If we were full of shit, yes, we would be
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a less interesting version of us. And I need a British accent.
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And if I were faking all of my emotional outbursts. Oi, piece of piss. Is that good?
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I don't know. Is this a real laugh? Oh boy.
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So a caller calls in. Alex gets another call. Yeah.
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And this, this doesn't go great. Let's talk to Curt in Colorado. Curt, go
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ahead. Hey, good afternoon, Alex, Paul. You know,
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I think the biggest problem is you guys are fighting from inside the tax slave labor camp
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already. Ooh, I like that.
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But you were mentioning about the bill of rights and I come to the realization 15 years
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ago. They, it's not a guarantee. It's only a yardstick to measure government tyranny.
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They're not going to allow us to be free. And we stand up and say, no possessions, nine
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tens of the law. I claim my freedom. I take it. I'm not your slave, but you can't because
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I think you misunderstand what the second amendment says. And I mean, just for clarification,
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what do you think the second amendment says? I don't know what the federalist papers say
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on what the court rulings have said over the past 225, 27 years.
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Yes. To defend against tyranny. I have a God given right as the ninth amendment says, all
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of those are just simply pointing out rights that I already have.
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Well, but the point I'm trying to make is they always digress to firearms and they're
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basically antique weapons. You know, firearm is the definition of any type of rifle or
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a handgun that uses powder, right? And it doesn't say firearms. It says arms, right?
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All types of arms, right? And appreciate, Hey buddy, I appreciate your call. You know,
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I can tell you're, you're off on all the law stuff with all these groups have got all the
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magic bullets and the rest of it. It's a fight. It's humanity. They said slavery was the law.
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We stood up and said no to it. We're going to say no to this. We're going to win. Yeah,
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you were Confederate royalty buddy. Your ancestors buddy. We is a no. Your ancestors fought for
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the Confederacy. You are fighting for the Confederacy. Uh, at length. Calm down. Yeah.
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Um, but yeah, I w I wonder exactly what Alex knew that caller was about to bring up that
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he didn't want to deal with. I imagine it's some kind of sovereign citizenship shit. Yeah.
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Um, but I w I'm not entirely sure. I don't, I don't, I'm not familiar with whatever code
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Alex picked up on, but I was like, man, come on, let him speak his peace. This is gonna
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go bad. Yeah. I want to hear two book cane. That's what I got, you know, or it's just
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going to piss Alex off so much. Yeah, that'd be fun. I want to hear Alex, uh, justify his
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own second amendment nonsense against an adversarial person. Oh God. I do. You don't really hear
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that too often. Usually it's just him defending it against ghosts and imaginary enemies and
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fake legislation that died in committee. Anyway, you get another caller. This guy by his claim
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heard about this case, saw the article, okay. Called the Drudge report. Okay. May have called
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Drudge himself. Well, emailed him. He may have been the person responsible for getting
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this story out onto the Drudge report and therefore getting it onto info wars. This
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is royalty. So this guy did a little bit more legwork. Okay. He went ahead and called the
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paper and shit. Oh my God. Uh, Sean, go ahead. Uh, yes, Alex. Um, uh, what's even better
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is that, uh, I was listening to the show this morning and, uh, all, I believe it is mentioned
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that they had rewritten the article and removed the quote from the dissenting justices that,
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you know, it's the road to hell. So I called the news channel six back up and, uh, I, I
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reminded them about my call this past Saturday and the journalism forum, you actually got
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them to go look up the case. Uh, yeah, I guess so. I guess, I guess I reminded him that if
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you're going to talk about a case, it's kind of important to let us know which one it is.
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Yeah. Us versus Gould. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Way to go, man. First time you've said
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that this entire, this is like three hours and 40 minutes into the show. So first time
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he's had those words, I feel a little resentfulness coming from him about that too. A little bit
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of like a way to go way to run my fun on this way to make them add all that shit. Yeah.
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So this guy had called the paper and uh, that was allegedly according to him is what precipitated
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them adding this quote, justifying this phony justification of the information about the
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court case into the article, which is fascinating on, on some level. It is because Paul should
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be telling him, Hey, why'd you do that? That's what I was thinking. That's why I hear that
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in Alex's voice a little bit of just like, Oh yeah. Way to make sure they have the fucking
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case going. Good job. Way to add context to stuff that makes it more difficult for me
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to play my games. Yeah. Yeah. It is always hard for them, especially when it comes to
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legal stuff because everybody kind of instinctively knows the context is really important. Sure.
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You know, like, Oh, it is. Yes, you're right. In this scenario, I don't think they should
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do that. And in this scenario, I think they should do as we all know, possession. Yeah.
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Nine tenths. Mm. Circumstance. You know what I'm saying? People are also bad at, uh, uh,
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estimating fractions. Yeah. Uh, possession is, I would say at least maybe one third.
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I don't even know what one third of the law means. Exactly. So we have one last clip here
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and it's the same caller and he's complaining about them, uh, removing, uh, the quote from,
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uh, the judges, uh, in the revised article. Okay. And, uh, anyway, I asked him, I said,
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uh, you know, I was kind of curious in the rewriting of your story, why it is that, uh,
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that now the new version of the story is soft peddling the dissent and that you've removed
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the opinion of the dissenting justice is that this decision is the road to hell. And I quickly
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got transferred to the webmaster and I asked the webmaster the same question and, uh, she
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got a little bit upset that, uh, one of the sheep was calling in and bleeding, I guess.
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I got one that can see she was reporting. Yeah. And, uh, asked her the same question
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and she said, uh, well, you know, it wasn't a direct quote and, uh, we've got a link to
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the, uh, to the, to the pub, to the published opinion. I'm like, well, yes ma'am, but that's
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64 pages of legal mumbo jumbo. Do you honestly expect people to wade through that? They just
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want to hear a judge say hell, uh, the salient point that the dissenting justices referred
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to this decision as the road to hell. It's not often you'll hear a dissenting justice
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get that behemoth. By the way, Paul, you need to get that decision and take it because you
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know, they'll take it down later, copy it and kind of make a section on this. Can you
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do that? Certainly. Sure. So it sounds like the webmaster had a very sensible reason for
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their edits. It wasn't a direct quote and the article links to the decision. Plus the
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updated article still includes the quote road to hell is paved with good intentions thing.
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So it's not fully excised. And here's an important point. What this caller is demanding the media
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do is dumb down their coverage and turn it into sound bites. So it's more digestible
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to the average person. That might be a good strategy for getting stuff out to as wide
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an audience as possible, but that's not what the info wars is supposed to be about. Alex
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is supposed to be about getting into the weeds and reading the documents. He has all the
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white papers and legislation and all that shit. He's a wonk. Yeah. A 60 something page
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court decision is nothing. The info war is about the raw material. So what this guy is
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saying in effect is that the average person is too stupid or lazy to read and understand
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the court decision. So the press needs to make a blurb for them so they can get it.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I do know that I think this is partially strategic
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at least. Alex and his ill can't spread their information except in the form of yelling
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and dumb down blurbs, anything past surface level and all of it falls apart completely.
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They know that in order for this story to spread effectively with the spin that they
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wanted to have that road to hell thing is pretty important. They can say the fourth
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amendment is being taken away, but they say stuff like that all the time. So that's going
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to be background noise, but if you can fancy it up with some hell talk, that's a little
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bit of extra flair that's going to be able to draw in some eyes. That's why you see
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Alex hitting that beat so hard in this episode. These guys are complaining about the piece
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being edited, not because they actually think there's some kind of journalistic coverup
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going on, but because clarifying this and making it less sensational hurts their ability
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to exploit this story. Also, you can see the kind of preparation Alex did for this episode.
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He didn't even go get the actual ruling. He hasn't read this and for some reason
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he thinks the globalists are going to have it taken down to hide it from the public.
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It's fucking absurd. He does nothing. Yeah. Yeah. If you, if you think about it,
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they're, I mean, obviously their enemy is people knowing the truth. Of course. Alex's.
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Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, one of the larger ones is just time, just time period of just
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like if people have to spend 30 seconds as opposed to 10 seconds reading an article,
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that is less time that we can override them emotionally. You know what I'm saying? Like
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emotion happens instantly. So I want them to read, we're on the road to hell and then
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come to me immediately. Yeah. You know, I don't want them to read, here's the case.
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Here's what happened. Here's the critical thinking skills. You have to read reading
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comprehension and then come to me. It's work that your brain is doing to understand,
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okay, what happened? Why were decisions made in a certain way? That is a bad road to the
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info war. You're exactly right. The road to hell, your rights are taken away. Your government's
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going to be in your house randomly checking you. There's no warrants anymore. That is
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the route to the info war and they need to preserve that path as well as they can whenever
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they can. And that's, that's essentially what they're upset about. Yeah. I mean, it is,
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it is both like strategic and also necessity to make everything a soundbite. Yeah. Yeah.
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Meanwhile, complaining about how the media does that, which to be fair, that is a fair
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critique of the media. If it didn't work, we wouldn't all be doing it. It's a fair critique
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of the media, but it's just a hollow coming from Alex. So anyway, um, I have a hard out,
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so we got to get out of here. We got to go. But, uh, this episode, uh, I, I, I enjoy these
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trips to the past much more and I think, I don't know, I think I might want to stay in
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the past for a while, maybe for the, to the end of the year, because honestly it's been
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a shit month and I w I prefer these things where there's meat on the bones, where there's
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something actual to talk about. There's something interesting. Um, as opposed to demons and
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blah, blah, blah. I hate people. I hate various groups. Who cares? I mean, not who cares,
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but in terms of listening to it over and over again, it's a, it's, it doesn't charm. I mean,
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I think, I think one of the simplest things we do is, uh, it seems like everybody's giving
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Alex a lot of attention in the present and what we do is, uh, often just go, okay, well
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then we'll you guys have your fun. It'll go elsewhere. It'll, uh, the excitement of him
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being on Twitter and all that already feels like it's dying down a little bit. So, uh,
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so that's great. Yeah. But, um, you know, whatever the decision is, uh, we'll be back
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for another episode, but until then, uh, we have a website. Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep. We're also technically on Twitter, but I will be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm
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Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I feel boxed in by this bit and uh, I now have begun. I am free. Look
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forward to reading the declaration of independence from this bit. Yeah. And now here comes the
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sex robot. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time
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caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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