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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledgefight.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Need money.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.
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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you, sir.
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So.
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is I've been watching the new series of Taskmaster.
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Oh, yes.
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Me too.
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And I have to say, it's, you know, 16th season I think.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes it can be like, I don't know how they're gonna have a cast that's fun.
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They have to have gone through everybody.
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Yeah.
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It is a great cast.
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Fantastic.
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But also, it's been a while since I've had somebody who I think is in the, like, running
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for my favorite ever.
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Oh, yeah?
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And Sam Campbell is so fucking funny.
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Yeah.
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He's perfect for that format.
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Yeah, for that show, it's like, that's, there's just, yeah.
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It never, things he says never cease to be, they're surprising.
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Where are you from?
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Yeah.
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What do you, what goes on inside your brain, sir?
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Yeah, they're very, it's things he's saying are very funny, also very absurd in a way
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that is actually not annoying.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, it feels, it feels like I am being hit on the head by a Frisbee out of nowhere every
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time.
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I'm just like, where did that come, oh, that's, that's pretty funny.
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That's pretty funny.
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That's hilarious, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I guess my bright spot is Sam Campbell.
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Fantastic.
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I never want to, I never watch any of these people's standup, but man, so good, so good
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on that show.
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For us, though, that can only be a detriment.
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Well, I worry if I would be able to relate to the comedy of another country, you know?
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I always worry about that.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Your concerns are so different from mine.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Well, I took you to see an Irish comic and you were like, ah, I don't even understand
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his words.
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Our friendship almost didn't survive.
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It was, it was tough.
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Sorry, Dylan Morn.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, yeah, sure, Black Books is great, fine.
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Yeah, whatever.
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I don't know.
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I, I, look, there's a lot of things that I've, people have made me watch that have not been
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pleasantly received and that was only one of them.
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That my friend Angela Lampsbury made me watch that, that magic show In and of Itself, I
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believe is the name of it.
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Never heard of it.
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Boo.
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Yeah.
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I'll tell you what you should watch.
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People love it.
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Yes.
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Fantastic.
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Not going to do it.
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I love close up magic so much.
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I do too.
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This one that was more, I think I talked about this like way in the past, but it was more
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of a one man show than it was magic.
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No good.
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Yeah.
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No good.
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And I think Bill Gates is in it.
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No good.
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Yeah.
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He's in the audience of one of you.
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Gross.
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Why, why ruin stuff with him?
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Anyway, Dylan Morn was worse, but what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is Cyberpunk 2077 the expansion.
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Yeah, you've been enjoying that.
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I just beat the Phantom Liberty expansion.
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It is great.
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It's really great.
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Like it's really great.
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Scaled from one to 2077, what do you give it?
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Uh, 1998.
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Not bad.
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Yeah, it's not, it's not ready for Y2K just yet, but it'll get there.
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That's pretty close.
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Yeah, it is pretty close.
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The clock is counting down.
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That's fantastic.
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But yeah, it's really, really good.
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I am glad, I know that's a game that you've been thoroughly enjoying.
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Yeah.
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I've enjoyed some games, but this seems to be on another level, like a higher level.
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I like the world building.
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I mean, the game itself is oftentimes like repetitive in some ways, but like I like hanging
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out in the world they've built.
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They did a good job.
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I think that's such the important part of these like longer RPG-ish type games, because
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so much of it is repetitive.
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So much of it is just like go get this thing or, you know, once you take a step back and
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you realize what the missions are and stuff, it's like, this is just one of three different
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things you're making me do.
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But if the world is fun, it's fine.
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Steal this thing, connect to this thing, go to this thing, then leave, bring it to some
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other person.
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Yeah.
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I get it.
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I've been there, but guess what?
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I like that world.
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Yeah.
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If you can feel like you can actually embody and sort of role play, it can be fun.
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I mean, yeah.
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You know, I'd like to steal things in this world, but I can't, so I hang out there.
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And you'd like to be able to give yourself cybernetic upgrades and stuff?
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I would really like cybernetic upgrades.
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It seems unfair.
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I feel like we should have them by now.
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I feel like I was promised cybernetic upgrades every, like every video game year has been
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a game year where like a game in the future has been like, oh, by the time we get to the
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year 2001, we'll have cybernetic upgrades.
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Now they've moved to the goalposts all the way up to 2077, bullshit.
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I'm going to be dead by then.
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I was certain that by this point we would be able to get in a little ball and spin and
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roll like Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Absolutely.
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It could have gone two directions.
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I could have gone Samus.
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I could have gone Metroid.
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Oh, that's true.
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Rolling up into a ball.
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That's true.
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At the very least, I thought we would have had all of our food in pill form by now.
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Yeah.
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That seems so obvious.
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And as somebody who doesn't like food that much, I'm disappointed that's not the case.
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I would food pill in a second.
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I love food.
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I enjoy eating it.
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I enjoy cooking it.
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But I mean that I can't just eat it in a pill seems just like a fault in society to me.
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This actually leads me to a second bright spot.
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Yes.
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And that is...
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I have condensity.
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No.
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I wish.
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I don't want to just sit here and talk about how great Aldi is.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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You know how they have products that are there for a while and then gone?
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There's a weird rotation.
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Yeah.
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With the way things...
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Seasonals.
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I don't even know if they're seasonal.
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Well, seasons are in the mind.
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Because every store has seasonal stuff.
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Like they'll have gourds and shit.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Halloween season.
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I mean associated with the seasons.
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It just looks like, hey, we got a box of this, put it out there.
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I mean that's how it feels there.
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Which is awesome.
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Because sometimes you'll find something that's great.
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Anyway, there's a spicy chicken ring.
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A frozen spicy chicken ring.
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Okay.
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That you can...
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It's like a chicken finger but in a ring form.
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But it's actually pretty spicy.
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All right.
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It's great.
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That's awesome.
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I'm going to hoard them.
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That is so much like a...
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I suddenly had the image of the Aldi person who sets up the groceries go into like a
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different fresh fish market in the middle of this.
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You know?
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Sure.
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Just like, hmm.
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Oh, these are...
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You got fresh chicken fingers today.
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People love this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Market price only.
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Consider me Sonic the Hedgehog hoarding these chicken rings.
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I like it.
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That's for sure.
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So, Jordan, today we got an episode.
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Okay.
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I'm not happy about it.
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Oh, no.
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But it is what it is and we will have to go through it.
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We're talking about October 13th.
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That's Friday the 13th of this last week.
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All right.
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Alex has been on vacation.
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Good.
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That's not a vacation.
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Oh, no.
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He wasn't on vacation.
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But he was on vacation.
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Okay.
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And he's back.
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All right.
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He had been gone this whole week.
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And so Owen had been hosting before he goes off to prison.
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Pre-prison Owen.
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25th hour starring Owen Troyer.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is back and he's, you know, he would say that he's loaded for bear.
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And I would disagree.
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But it's just real not good.
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It's pretty bad.
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And we'll get down to business on it before we do.
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Let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, conspiracy thinking is what fills the space left where class consciousness should
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be.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, help the receptionist at an art museum let me in for free when he saw Knowledge Fight
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on my phone screen and now I'm stuck as a visual meta-commentary on post-wonk policy
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modalities.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Oh, that was a lot of words.
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Yeah, I like whenever I can skim them and I know, oh, that's going to be great to cold
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read.
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Next, Preston and Smurfette.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, the wonk trying to mail Dan books.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You can mail me books.
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Email knowledgefight at gmail.com and Jordan will give you the address.
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The email came while we were on tour, so I didn't have the, yeah, never mind.
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Yeah.
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Next, Alex Jones does a throat-clearing cough right before lying about what an article says
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and it's an obvious tell once you hear it.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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That is true.
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It's not like hyper-consistent, but it is, it definitely does happen.
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Buying a little time.
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And we had a technocrat in the mix Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Nat.
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I took a carpenter job at an exclusive summer community and all I got was this tan.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So obviously the reason this is bad is that Alex feels that he's had a week off and now
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it's important that he fill everyone in on his thoughts about the situation in Israel
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and the Palestinian.
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Oh, shit.
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I was hoping he would just have moved on and we would have forgotten about it by now.
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I really, really wish he would just be talking about the speakership fight or something.
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But yeah, no, he's, he's talking about this.
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Oh, good.
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And it's, I mean, look, I'm going to be honest with you and say that some of it is so messy
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that I don't even really know how to untangle some of the pieces.
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And I hope that you can be helpful with that as you listen to this, because if you're trying
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to find a coherent point, there isn't really one, but there are a bunch of non-central
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points that are all very bad.
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That's what I would say.
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Gotcha.
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So here's where Alex starts off and he's lamenting that everybody, especially people on the left,
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are out there calling for the death of the Jews.
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Sure.
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I'm sorry.
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When did that happen?
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The communist party, the socialist party and every other scumbag criminal organization
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is running around foaming at the mouth across Europe, across Canada, across the U S across
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Australia, calling for death to Jews.
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Now let's be clear.
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I don't like heroin, but just because I don't like heroin doesn't mean I also don't hate
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cocaine.
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I tried them both in high school, horrible drugs.
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I'd advise anybody out there never try them.
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You feel like you can run over by a car after you take them the next day.
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So I don't like what Israel's doing and I sure don't like what the Muslims are doing.
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And let's just get that straight.
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I am my own identity.
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Okay.
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So first off, I think Alex is on cocaine way more recently than that.
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Well in the week in high school, weird to learn that he did heroin in high school though.
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I kind of don't think that's true, but if it is, it's indicative of how fucked up he
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was back then.
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Like I know a lot of rebellious kids and they all experimented with drugs, but heroin was
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not something that people experimented with.
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I don't understand if he said like I smoked opium or something, but I mean, you don't
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do heroin.
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That's not, that's, that's, we're, we're from different areas.
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See, cause of where I grew up right off of 80.
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So the, the New York, California pipeline, we got way more heroin than we did.
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Like I didn't see cocaine at all, but I saw heroin in high school plenty of times.
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I didn't see a lot of heroin or I, cocaine was largely sort of the richer kids and granted
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there was a lot of, kind of a poor place too.
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There was a lot of weed certainly.
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Sure.
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Um, there might be a little bit of meth here and there because you were in the middle of
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Missouri.
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Yeah.
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We had more meth than we did.
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Yeah.
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But not a ton, especially not in like high school.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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People would dabble with pills and stuff like that.
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Obviously there's going to be some opiates here and there, but in terms of like shooting
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up heroin, like, nah, nah, I think, yeah, I think they, they, I don't think anybody
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was black tar like fucking cooking it in a spoon and shit.
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No, that's fair.
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I, I, and I don't think anybody really does that for like experimenting.
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Oh yeah, no experiment.
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Like you don't do, I don't, I don't, I'm sure that this person does exist, but I don't know
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anybody who's done heroin once that doesn't, no, I mean you could, you could do heroin
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once.
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That's, it's just a, I, I mean once you, I've never heard of anybody who injected it once.
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That's maybe the better way of putting it.
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That's what I'm getting from him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I get what you're saying.
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Is he saying he smoked heroin?
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I mean you can snort it.
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Yeah, but people don't generally.
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Not generally.
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I mean, you know.
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Not if you want to get the good stuff.
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That's well, listen, I'm not saying that I came from a place where the good stuff was
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even heard.
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Our weed was, our weed was probably worse than our heroin.
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I guess to me when you say snorting, uh, like heroin, I don't feel like that's doing heroin.
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You know what I mean?
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Or at least linguistically.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That's not what I would call it.
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I get, socially speaking, when we describe doing heroin, we are talking about the person
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shooting up between their toes.
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That's what we're talking about.
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When someone says I did heroin, I'm seeing a needle.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Whereas otherwise somebody's like, oh yeah, well I had a speed ball back in the day.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I get what you're saying.
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I get what you're saying.
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But, you know.
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I mean, no, now that you've explained it, it makes sense.
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You can smoke cocaine, but you got a free base in it and shit.
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So it's very different.
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If you say I did coke, it usually means you're going to snort it.
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Yeah.
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But it is, I think you may be putting, the do or the did suggests a lot more effort than
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the just like, yeah, I've snorted some coke.
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Anyway, the point is I don't think Alex did heroin.
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More importantly, Alex's analogy seems to imply that supporting Jewish people and supporting
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Muslims are like heroin and cocaine respectively.
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And that's weird.
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I have to imagine there's a better way to say that he opposes the policies and actions
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of the Israeli government as well as the actions of Muslim terror groups.
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But because the way he's phrasing it, his criticism is not specific to a government
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or terror group.
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It's about all members of these categories as a whole.
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And clearly, I hope he clears this up, but he doesn't.
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Oh, he doesn't?
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On our last episode, I pointed out that Alex will often give what appears to be good lip
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service to the fact that war is bad and that both sides in a conflict end up hurting civilian
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populations.
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However, when the rubber meets the road, he'll always side with the group that has the most
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power and typically the one that he feels aligns most with his heterosexual white male
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dominated worldview.
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You can see that even at the beginning of the show here.
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He starts the show talking about how everyone everywhere is calling for the deaths of Jewish
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people.
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And it would be unfair for us to pretend that there aren't some groups out there that have
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been calling for blood and the destruction of Israel, and that's bad.
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It's not everybody on the left foaming at the mouth saying this.
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But to pretend that that voice isn't there in some sense is bad and it's condemnable.
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The flip side, however, is that there's also plenty of groups and voices out there that
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are calling for the genocide of Palestinians, which is terrible.
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Alex is ignoring those voices and pretending that all the left around the world is calling
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for the death of Israelis because his agenda is to support Israel when it comes to these
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two groups.
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He doesn't want to be too obvious about it, but that's where his support lies.
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And that you can tell just through those little things the way he phrases things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, when you start a conversation with, the left just wants all the Jews to die, you're
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really ending the conversation before it begins, you know.
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It's not going anywhere good.
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You have no interest in me being like, aha, I actually have a more nuanced... No, we're
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not.
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We're past that.
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And you can kind of tell why I would spend a little more time talking about whether or
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not Alex is on heroin, because anything other than his horrible thoughts about this situation.
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Yeah, this is great.
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So, he winds a bit here, and then I believe if you were to give a fair reading to this
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clip, Alex blames the people who were at the rave in Israel who were killed by Hamas for
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being there.
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He blames them for their own murders.
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Okay.
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And I am sick of my entire life, 49 years on this planet, hearing more about Israel
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and more about the Muslims than I hear about our country where you got everybody living.
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I'm an American.
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Off to a great start.
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And that's where I stand on this, but to watch Black Lives Matter and the left everywhere
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celebrate people on motorized hang gliders coming into a peace rally rave with a bunch
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of delusional leftist Jews who are literally thinking they're safe right next to Gaza,
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unarmed, is disgusting.
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Both groups, obviously Hezbollah 100 times worse, but also the delusional people at that
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party.
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I mean, let me tell you, I'm a tough guy.
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I'm not going to an all night party, I'm going to those anyways, next to two and a half million
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people that want to kill me where they hear the music and the party.
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I mean, it's absolutely insane, but that's the delusion of the left.
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You see everywhere going into the worst neighborhoods and getting stabbed and murdered because they've
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promoted all this anti-white garbage that extends to Jews because they're white according
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to the left and the democratic party's real anti-Semitism issue.
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Woo boy.
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So Alex is sick of hearing about this conflict.
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It's really about him at the end of the day when you think about it.
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Why hasn't anybody thought about Alex at all?
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Yeah, he's sick of hearing about this, maybe we should stop talking about it.
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Hey, everybody in Israel, put your arms down, Alex is sick of hearing about it.
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I can't think of many worse takes you can have than blaming the people who are victims
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of a terror attack for their deaths.
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This is kind of a disgusting mentality that I've seen on the rise in the right wing, particularly
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on social media, so it's not surprising to see Alex parroting it.
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He gets all his information from that shithole, so he's going to absorb some of it and spit
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it right back out.
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This mentality is the what did you expect to happen kind of idea.
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People like Alex are using tragic events to undercut the idea of supporting equal rights
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and social justice.
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That's basically the game that's being played.
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There was a video of a white guy getting stabbed in New York that was posted all over social
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media and the perspective on it was that's what he gets for supporting Black Lives Matter.
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There was no evidence that this rave that Hamas attacked was a pro-Palestinian event,
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but that's the messaging that you see from people like Alex based on it being a hippie-ish
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freedom and psychedelics-themed rave.
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They need that to be the perspective and the perception so they can blame the victims of
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this attack for their own victimhood.
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You should have known better than to support Palestinian rights.
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What did you think would happen?
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This is a strategy and rhetorical tactic meant to dehumanize.
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This is an attempt to take these othered groups and make them out to be animals.
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If you get attacked by a tiger, someone might say, why were you messing around with a tiger?
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And no one really doubts the rationality of that question.
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Tigers are dangerous animals.
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Alex is trying to apply this same mentality to black people and Palestinians, and it's
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repugnant.
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Also, I want to unpack that part there at the end where Alex says the left's, quote,
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anti-white garbage extends to the Jews because they're white, according to the left.
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That's interesting because it does tell you a little bit about Alex's views on whiteness,
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namely that it does not include Jewish people.
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He's right in line with some of the more Nazi-leaning members of his audience there, so that's good.
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I mean, I suppose the difficulty I'm having here is that the left is now supporting Israel
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because Jews are white.
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No, no, no, no, the left is against Israel.
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They're calling for the deaths of all of Israel, the Jewish people.
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That's what Alex is saying.
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Right.
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Wait.
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But then how can you, you can't be anti-Semitic if Jews are also white people, right?
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Like if you're calling for the end of Israel, but because we hate white people and Jews
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are white people, that's not anti-Semitic.
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That's...
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I did tell you this was a little confusing.
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In specific.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's difficult for me to walk through.
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I think Alex is a little bit all over the place.
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Right.
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That's what I'm getting to.
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I feel like the Democrats' hate is all over the place, and that is probably coming from
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the source, which would be Alex, yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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They seem to not have a very clear-eyed view of what they're doing here.
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No, for sure.
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And one of the things that you really have to pay attention to is that there are essentially
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two sides of the conflict that is going on, according to Alex.
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Sure.
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And one is the Israeli government, and the other is the Muslims.
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Right.
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All of them.
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Yes.
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So anyway, Alex has been attacked.
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Uh-huh.
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Because this really is about Alex.
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I don't hate Jews because they're Jews.
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I don't hate Jews because they're Orthodox Jews.
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I don't hate Jews because they believe in God.
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In fact, I admire a lot of the culture and poetry and ideas of Jews.
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That said, I, for my entire broadcasting career, have been savagely attacked and lied about
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by leftist Jews.
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And they've abused me, they've abused my family, they've attacked me, and they feel like they
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have a right to go after me using the political power they've got.
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That's wrong.
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I'm sorry?
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But it's also wrong to come in with hang gliders and kill a bunch of innocent people.
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It's really interesting how Alex can't even engage with this world situation without making
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it about himself.
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The actions of the Israeli government towards the Palestinians isn't even a factor that
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he's considering here.
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On the one hand, you have the ADL being mean to Alex, which is horrible.
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And on the other hand, you have Hamas attacking a rave, which is also horrible.
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This is bleak, and it speaks to how ill-equipped Alex is to cover events like this.
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He brings so much of his own baggage and personal feelings into it that you're not getting any
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real analysis.
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You're getting him talking about his feelings, which is usually anger about how everyone's
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mean to him.
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Or at least he feels that they're mean to him.
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Yeah, I can't think of anything less useful than, how does Alex feel about, like, this
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is like a YouTube reaction video?
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Yeah!
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It might as well be.
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Yeah, it might as well be like, crazy man reacts to war!
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Yeah.
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I think it makes my day harder!
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This is about me.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, anyway, Alex decides, like, I'm out.
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He's just out.
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I'm out.
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Okay!
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It's a piece out.
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He's out, really.
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I mean, I like it.
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He's gonna continue to talk about this for a long time.
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Oh, God damn it.
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But he's decided he's out.
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I would have been fine.
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And I'm against what's happening with these Jews being slaughtered.
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And I think it's terrible what's happening in the carpet bombing of the Gaza Strip, the
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Palestinians.
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But it is not my dog.
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It is not my fight.
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And I am American.
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And I am so tired of turning on the news and hearing about Saudi Arabia and Israel and
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Germany and the UK and France and Russia and China and South Africa and Nigeria and Mexico
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and Chile and Brazil and Timbuktu, man.
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Our borders are wide open.
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Hundreds of thousands are dying from fentanyl, mass suicide, I don't care what color you
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are, we're screwed as a country.
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So this is a super cowardly position for someone like Alex to have.
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I thought that his entire brand was supposed to be out 1776 worldwide.
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I know that he sold a lot of shirts and mugs with that slogan on it, but now all of a sudden
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he wants to retreat to a place where the rest of the world doesn't matter.
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Fuck it.
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Let them kill each other.
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That's not very 1776 of you.
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Alex can handle the heat when he's fucking around and being an asshole in ways that aren't
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going to cut into his bottom line.
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He can spend all day screaming about how important it is that Bolsonaro is in charge in Brazil
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because he knows that most of his audience has no interest in the things Bolsonaro was
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destroying.
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They don't care about the native peoples of Brazil or the state of deforestation, so there's
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no real blowback that Alex is going to suffer.
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This is entirely different.
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Alex lives in a world of black and white situations where there's a good side and a bad side to
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everything.
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And he's trained his audience to see things in that binary.
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Now he's faced with a choice he cannot make, which is to define the binary as it relates
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to the situation in Israel.
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He knows that a large portion of his audience fully supports Israel and even attached the
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country to some of their millenarian religious beliefs.
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If he does anything but support Israel, he risks alienating that group.
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Simultaneously he has two subsets of anti-Israel factions in his audience, the folks who are
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actually opposed to Israel's government's policies and actions, and the folks who just
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hate Jewish people and think they run the world.
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If Alex supports Israel bluntly, then he's going to really risk losing those people and
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their money that they pay for his dumb pills.
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Alex can't really make either choice, and so you see him doing what he is doing, saying
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that he doesn't want to play anymore.
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If this were Russia and Ukraine, he'd keep playing all day long, even though it's two
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other countries and it shouldn't be, it should be not Alex's fight.
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He can play that game fairly freely because his audience doesn't have intense feelings
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about that as they do about Israel.
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This should be seen for what it is.
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He's a little boy who knows he's losing a game, trying to come up with a high-minded
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reason for why he doesn't want to play anymore.
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This geopolitical shit isn't a game, but it is to Alex, and that's why he can act this
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way.
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That's the way I see this-
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I mean, this is just so much Alex is a fucking Twilight Zone dream, you know?
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If you have an alternate reality machine that you can create, and Alex is just like, I don't
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want to hear about that, you show up and you're like, and this is what's going to happen next,
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and then you find out what happens whenever you don't see it, and then he goes, oh, I've
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learned a lesson ironically about all the things that I'm wrong about, you know?
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He doesn't get that.
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He just gets to say this shit and then never learn anything about it.
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No.
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That's why the Twilight Zone needs to be real.
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I am putting together a GoFundMe for building the Twilight Zone, I guess.
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Okay.
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We could get Jordan Peele in on it.
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We could appeal to him on a-
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No, he's going to want to make his own thing.
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He's going to have to brand it.
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I want to build-
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He could be like, I'm a Jordan.
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You're a Jordan.
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The specific Twilight Zone only.
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The actual alternate reality.
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So, like, really-
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The door?
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Everything.
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Here's what I think.
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Yeah.
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Twilight Zone's a great idea.
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Sure.
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Fantasy Island is better.
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Yeah.
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Well, Herve Villachez is dead.
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That's true, but you don't really need him necessarily as much as you just need somebody
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who can fill that role.
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You just need somebody who's a caretaker of the magic island and such, because Ricardo
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Montalban's dead too.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Finally, from hell's heart, he did stab at me.
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I think I might have mentioned this on the podcast before, but one time in college I
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was due to take finals and I really didn't want to study, and so I convinced myself I've
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never seen Fantasy Island and I watched all of them.
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So we got to do it.
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Yep.
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All right.
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Great show.
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It has its moments.
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So, I mean, I don't know how to describe any of these clips other than Alex is just not
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... His points are not good.
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It's awful.
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It's just awful.
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I've always wanted to go to Israel.
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It's a historic scene.
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I've never gotten around to it.
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Every time I'm about to go, my wife's mother was about to go to Israel and Egypt for a
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trip she'd been planning for years and got canceled, obviously.
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Why?
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I would feel safe going to Israel.
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I would not feel safe going to any of those Islamic areas, because I would not be safe.
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So at the end of the day, it's the best house in a bad neighborhood.
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Israel is the best house in a bad neighborhood.
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It doesn't mean I move it into the neighborhood, doesn't mean I identify with the neighborhood,
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but I don't hate the neighborhood.
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And I refuse to hate the Jews, even if the left tries to use Jews as a political control
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valve to bully Americans who they know have a soft spot for Israel, because Israel's seen
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as the underdog.
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When all the Arab countries ganged up on them, that was wrong.
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Wait.
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Israel's not really getting ganged up on now.
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They got thousands of nuclear weapons.
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But that said, I don't want war with Israel, and I don't sit back and go, yeah, give it
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to them Jews.
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Boy, let's kill some Jews.
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I'm disgusted by it.
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So I mean, what do you take away from that?
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I think what I take away from that is that maybe he should live in a world where he doesn't
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hear more about other countries, because I don't think that made any sense whatsoever.
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Not really.
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Not really.
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You can get a sense from that best house in a bad neighborhood kind of idea.
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I would never feel safe going to one of these Muslim countries.
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He has a perspective that is like, all Palestinians, all Muslims are basically barbarous.
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And I would just get murdered immediately there.
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He sees one side as more human than the other.
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Right.
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And I think what's interesting about it is that he's also in his own mind, I believe,
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in his own mind, successfully navigating the pathway.
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He just doesn't have the words, you know, like he doesn't have words that can allow
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you to say, I don't this and also this, you know, because he's trying to he's trying to
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say I am against this both sides thing, but his language is only that of racism.
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So he's like, I'm against this both sides.
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These people are great and those people are evil.
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See, I'm on both sides.
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I am navigating.
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This is a tightrope between good and evil.
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Wait, no.
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God damn it.
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Did it again.
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All right.
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We're going to.
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There's good on this.
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Fuck.
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Yeah.
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There may be there may be some of that to it.
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So he's sick of looking at Biden.
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Yeah.
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But he's also he's also sick of something else.
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Sure.
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And that's Muslims.
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Now, that said, I have to talk about it and I've talked a lot about this.
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I talked about it recently on air.
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I'm sick of looking at Joe Biden and Obama.
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I'm sick of looking at Hillary.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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So my my dislike of them is palpable.
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I feel it.
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But it's the same thing on dealing with the Muslims like like I tell you, I mean, I am
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disgusted by the politics in Israel.
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So are the Jews over there.
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Majority of them think they're in a dictatorship that they are basically.
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But I mean, the Muslims, if America is so bad, stop coming over here, stop coming here
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and signing up for welfare and then walking around in your nightgowns all day and bitching
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about me.
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Wow.
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Oh, that's something.
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So you can kind of see the shell game that Alex is playing here.
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Sure.
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The group that he's constructed is not between Israel's government and Hamas.
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You know, like a conflict might appear to be.
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Yeah.
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He's talking about the justifiably criticizable actions of Israel's government on the one
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side and the Muslims on the other.
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The entire group, the Muslims.
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Alex is not disgusted by the actions of a terrorist group.
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He's assigning his disgust to the whole group of all Muslims.
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This is what you do when you want to pretend that you're being measured and judging both
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sides, but you're very clearly in one camp.
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Just imagine the inverse.
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How would it sound if Alex was lamenting the horrible atrocities carried out by Hamas,
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but then he said he was disgusted by the Jews?
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Islamophobia is so normal on this show that Alex's audience probably doesn't even recognize
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this trick that he's pulling.
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But his agenda is assigning blame for those terrorist attacks, not just to the victims
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who went to a rave, but also to civilians around the world who happen to be followers
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of Islam.
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Basically, Alex is a giant piece of shit, just trying to play games, and he should be
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ashamed of this.
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Because this is not appropriate coverage.
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No.
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No.
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I mean, it's interesting how strong his opinions are on places that aren't the United States
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of America if he never wants to hear about them.
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I'm out.
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Right?
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I'm out.
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Like, be out then.
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I can't because all of them are coming here.
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No, but here's the thing.
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What's interesting about that, I bet if you just only hung out with the Muslims in your
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neighborhood, and you never knew at all about anything else, you wouldn't give a shit.
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You wouldn't care.
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I'm not sure.
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It's everybody else's problem.
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I think most people, that's true for.
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No.
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Alex, not sure.
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Eh, that's possible.
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That's possible.
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So he ranks his hatred on a scale of one to ten for various groups.
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Not 2077?
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No.
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Not one to 14 words?
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No.
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One to ten.
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This is bad.
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So, on a scale of one to ten, my dislike of the pedophiles as a ten, of the Muslims as
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a five, bad, the Jews that are liberals trying to bully me and everybody in America, a one.
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But that doesn't mean I like you because you're a one.
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Let me be completely frank with you.
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It's wrong to put all Muslims in one group.
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Oh yeah?
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What makes you say that?
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If you're a Trump supporter, you get called an anti-Semite when you're supporting Israel.
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And so you're like, okay, I've been supporting Israel's existence, I know they're not perfect
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and you know, I'm trying to be nice to Israel and I'm trying to understand their perspective
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and then I get to be demonized all day long by the ADL and the rest of these groups.
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At a certain point I'm like, okay, I supported you and you slapped me around and shit all
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over me.
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I'm done with you.
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But at least you don't want to make me convert to your religion.
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That's a positive thing.
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I'm not attacking Judaism.
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It's actually a very interesting, ancient, amazing thing.
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I think it's very interesting.
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I mean, I like all ancient, interesting things.
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I respect culture.
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What is it happening?
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But at least the Jews don't try to make you convert over to their religion.
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Yeah, I hate religion.
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That's why I fundamentally do not like being put in a position where I have to sit there
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and choose sides.
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So nice of Alex to give the hierarchy to that hate.
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It should be helpful in the future to know this number scale.
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I hear a man scream about how I need to get right with God all the fucking time.
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Constantly.
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All the goddamn time and about how his is the one true religion.
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He's very into evangelizing.
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There's only one way.
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Yeah.
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The way, the truth, and the life.
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Yeah.
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The central theme of his show is essentially spreading his religion.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex is saying that he doesn't hate the Jews or anything, but that the ADL is making him
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mad and it kind of makes him want to.
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Or at least it puts leftist Jews as one of the people who are on his hate meter.
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Jesus.
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Which is strange.
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Yeah.
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This is why he thinks that groups like the ADL are creating antisemitism, because that's
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how he rationalizes it in his head.
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He's frustrated by a group accurately describing him and his friends, and that gets under Alex's
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skin so much that he puts leftist Jews as a one on his hate scale.
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That's not the ADL being a one.
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That's left-leaning Jewish people.
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You understand?
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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That's a remarkable thing to hear him put into words, because it's pretty damning as
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it relates to the I'm not antisemitic stuff.
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I think what he doesn't understand is that he doesn't have a ranking and that these are
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all tens.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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He doesn't have, any amount of hate he has is all the hate he has.
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Yeah, depending on the day.
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Yeah.
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He's dormant.
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Other things can be at the forefront or on the back burner.
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Right.
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But yeah, he has a lot of hate.
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Oh yeah.
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Just catch him on another day when he really wants to go to town on the ADL and they're
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a fucking 10.
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He's not always one 10th as mad at the ADL as he is at... No, no, that's absurd.
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Just saying it's on your hate list means you hate them.
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Right.
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And so this immediately pivots into this, which I think is just disgusting.
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Yeah.
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I want the Jews to be either Americans or Israelis.
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All right.
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And I want them to choose which allegiance they're with and then I'll back you all the
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way.
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And the Muslims, we know, and I hope the phones will call in, but we know your main allegiance
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is to either the Shias or the Sunnis, the Shiites or the Sunnis.
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And so all I'm saying is you are incompatible.
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I'm not your enemy.
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I don't want to kill you.
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I don't want to run your life, but let me explain something.
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I'm not submitting to Allah.
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I'm not submitting to Hollywood or the transgender gay cult.
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Okay.
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Anybody trying to make me submit to your crap is, quite frankly, my enemy.
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You made yourself my enemy.
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That's okay.
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I guess that's how you've got to think about it.
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I mean, this is just repulsive.
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The dual loyalty, the shit that he's pulling there about Jewish people, the incompatible
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Muslims are incompatible with the United States.
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Fuck yourself, man.
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This is incredibly hate filled shit.
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And the way he's presenting it as if it's not is shocking.
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This is the type of shit that wouldn't be acceptable in America if we were a different
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country at any point in our history.
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I mean, it is, and it always has been, but it's bad.
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We shouldn't allow it, but we do.
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Well, if he is legitimately saying that people who follow Islam are incompatible with the
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United States, what do you suggest is done about that, Alex?
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Like just getting everyone out of the United States?
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You would throw all Muslims out of the United States, I assume, because they're incompatible.
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Or maybe a reservation or something like that.
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Oh, that'd be a great idea.
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These are the only ideas that make sense based on Alex's ideas.
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And obviously, he's already said, stop coming here.
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He wants a blanket ban on Muslims coming to the United States.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it is kind of immaterial what he says about his beliefs.
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He believes that it should be a white nation.
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Yeah.
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Big time.
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So yeah, I think we can all put that one in the bed.
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Yep.
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Did it.
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So he goes to break after this outburst, let's say.
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And he comes back from break, and he's a little bit upset that he had an outburst.
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Oh, yeah.
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I just burned a segment, frustrated and mad, and just being honest with people.
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The truth is, I love little Muslim children, I love little Jewish children, I love little
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Christian children, I love Hindu children, I love Buddhist children, I love children
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that are born to these horrible atheist families.
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I just want to stop killing, and I want to stop fighting.
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But let's just move on, because this is me being honest here.
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I don't want my disgust with some of the politics that come out of Israel, or our own government,
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to make this an issue of, I'm against Israel.
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Because I've made that very clear over the years, I'm not against Israel.
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Okay.
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Wait.
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What?
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That's the thing you want to reassure people about after this shit?
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I was going to say, was that what I was unassured of?
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I think anybody critically listening wouldn't come away with, man, this guy doesn't like
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Israel.
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Oh, no.
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That's the least of my problems so far, up to this point?
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Least of my problems.
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Yeah, but that's who wants to clarify.
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And I do believe him that he likes Muslim babies and all that, as long as he can indoctrinate
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them and they convert to Christianity, and they grow up.
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That's the condition of them being acceptable.
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Here's my question now.
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Now my question is not like, blah, blah, blah.
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Here's my question, all right?
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So Alex is in Israel, they get rid of all the religions.
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What do they go after first, Mormonism or Catholicism?
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Probably Catholicism.
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It's got to be Catholicism, right?
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I think a hundred years ago it would have been Mormonism, and now it's Catholicism.
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Well, I think that Alex's fringe right-wing school of political belief has a lot of intersections
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with the Mormons.
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There's a lot of great Mormon figures in the anti-communist tradition.
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There are people like Glenn Beck is a figure in that world, and he's a Mormon individual.
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There's a lot of more overlap, I believe, between Alex's school of thought and then
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Catholicism.
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And you know what?
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I think that's a uniquely American success story, because Catholicism has thousands of
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years on Mormonism.
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Thousands of years, and in only a few hundred years Mormons took over Catholicism.
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Well done.
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Good job of the United States.
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It's a very, very small group of fringe, extreme right weirdos.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, congratulations Mormons, you did it.
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I'm not sure if it's the greatest success story, but it's an interesting one.
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It is an interesting one.
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So we've got Hamas and Hezbollah sleeper cells in the United States apparently.
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We have in this country hundreds of thousands of military age men who are part of Hamas
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and Hezbollah, and they are here and they have said they're going, according to their
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leadership of Hamas and Hezbollah, start launching attacks in the West.
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Now, even when that happens, and it's happening in Europe all the time, I'm going to be against
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the Islamists that did that.
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But who I'm really going to blame, because I'm not a moron, is our governments that opened
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the borders up and the UN and Klaus Schwab and all these organizations that Soros is
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suddenly involved in, bringing them here.
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So if something happens to any of my friends, family, or any other American, whether it's
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a synagogue that gets attacked or a church that gets attacked, they're attacking the
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Hindus, the Muslims hate them, anybody gets killed in a religious attack, I am going to
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hold O'Biden, and that means Obama, responsible for that, so they want to burn the American
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flag, they want to do all this crap, great.
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Do it in your own craphole country.
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What if there's a religious attack where it's one of these extremist folks who believe the
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same shit that Alex does, attacking Jewish people.
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Oh, well then they don't actually believe that.
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That's probably a false flag.
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Yeah, they don't actually believe that.
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They're probably Hindu.
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Oh, so hear, hear how Alex pivots the conversation back to much safer territory for his business.
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Scaremongering about immigrants in the United States and making sure that anything that
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happens will benefit his own petty political narratives.
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This is stupid and obviously the kind of rhetoric that's designed to target vulnerable populations
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like immigrants and refugees, but it's also weak on Alex's part.
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He got a little too worked up in the last segment around issues that are touchy for
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his audience, so he retreats to safe ground, which is inciting hate towards immigrants
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and idiotic partisan political conspiracies.
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Yeah.
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It's very disappointing.
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I mean, no, wait, hold on.
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It's not disappointing in the sense that I don't want to hear more of what he's doing
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at the first...
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Yeah, I mean, that's good.
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That's kind of my, that's where we're at right there is like the smartest move would have
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been to not say any of it.
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Right.
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Talk about Kevin McCarthy.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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The problem here is not what he has to say.
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It's that he's talking at all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or...
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I mean, what he has to say is a problem.
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That's true.
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Yes.
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Yeah, for sure.
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He doesn't even know that what he thinks about all of this stuff is a problem.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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We don't need to take a whole day out of it.
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Yeah.
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And he's just, I mean, blowing shit even further than he wants to, you know, like he doesn't
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even know what he's saying half the time.
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No.
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And he's wrong about just about everything.
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Exactly.
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Don't be naive and don't lie to yourself.
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And so thousands a month of what they call other than Mexican come across each little
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border section.
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What they call the border patrol.
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And most of them aren't from Latin America or even Africa.
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They're from the Middle East and China.
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They are pouring into the country and they're here.
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And all they get is one cell phone directive or one jihad order like you've been hearing
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for five, 13.
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We'll see what happens.
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They hope nothing.
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And then they unleash their attacks on us and then we lose our freedoms in the process.
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Yeah.
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So there was like a exciting thing on internets on the social media is that there was going
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to be a string of Friday the 13th attacks of all the sleeper cells that didn't happen.
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But Alex is playing into that a little bit because, you know, you want to whip the audience
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into as much fear as possible.
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I posit you this.
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If you can orchestrate more than 10,000 sleeper cell attacks simultaneously, I give up.
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You win because your administrative skills are clearly beyond anything I could compare
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to.
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I feel like an established bureaucracy is pretty nuts.
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If you can pull that off, then fuck it.
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You should be running things.
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Well, I'm not sure about that, but I don't like your ideas, but I mean, your competence
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is out of this world.
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You need to teach me quicken.
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Exactly.
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Whatever.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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That's our operation paperclip.
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Whatever organizational software you're using, you know how to use it.
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But you put me in a cell and teach me quick books.
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So here's the deal.
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Israel has nukes.
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Yeah.
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That's what Alex will explain.
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Might makes right.
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Sure.
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Because Israel's got thousands of nuclear weapons, folks.
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And if you try to go in there and actually drive them out, if anybody ever actually overran
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Israel and was actually beating them, they're going to nuke the Middle East.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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So I'll explain how this works.
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We have nuclear weapons.
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I become death of the story of worlds is what Oppenheimer said is true.
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Wait, so that he said that or that he did?
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Russia has a right to exist because they have nuclear weapons.
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Israel has a right to exist.
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Just like you come to my house trying to rob me.
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I got a bunch of guns.
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Good chances.
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You're going to die.
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I got a right to exist because I say I got a right to exist.
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And the Muslims are doubling their numbers every 30 years.
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It's not like they're not taking the world over.
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It's not like there's one little group of them left in one little country and everybody's
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getting rid of them.
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Muslims are expanding everywhere.
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So let the Jews have their country.
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Leave them alone.
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But I'll tell the leftist Jews this who want to get rid of my country and get rid of my
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guns.
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No.
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No.
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So there's a might makes right aspect to that in that like nukes give you the right to exist.
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Sure.
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Which is weird.
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Sure.
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But then Alex also says I have the right to exist because I say I do.
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Which would imply that all of these Muslims that he is so...
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Have an equal right to exist.
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Well, you'd think.
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But then Alex says I have a gun so I can protect my home, which implies sort of he doesn't
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have the right to have his home unless he has the gun to have the might to protect it.
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But that's not what his belief is about personal property.
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I don't know what's going on here.
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This is convoluted.
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But also if you unpack what he's saying, he thinks that Israel should have the right to
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expel all Muslims from the country so you can kind of see what side he's on in terms
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of whether Palestinians have rights, whether they have the right to be there, any of that.
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Any question anybody has about that is moot.
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It's done.
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Well, I mean, I think one of the things that Alex and people like him fall into is the
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idea that like countries are hard and fast things that exist as opposed to like collective
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ideas.
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Right.
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Like Israel can do this.
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You know, like Israel, the concept of the nation itself can write a law that says we
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can do this thing.
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You know, but then there's the what can you actually do aspect of a country, which is
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very different.
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Sure.
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You can't actually, even if Alex wanted to, fuck it.
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We've tried so many times in the American past.
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You can't actually expel people from a place.
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You can't.
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You can kick some people out and then they can come back because it's a big fucking place.
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You can cause tremendous harm.
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Yeah, you can do that, but you can't actually do the thing where you get rid of all of them.
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Right.
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Short of killing everybody.
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But you can't even do that.
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You could.
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You could try.
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In theory you could.
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In theory you could succeed, but you won't.
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Probably not.
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And then they'll just come back.
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Most likely.
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You know, like you can't actually do that.
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So let's move on from the like, oh, but we should be able to, and that's how we'll behave
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and start behaving like real people who are like, hey, let's not have a prison.
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I don't know.
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But even underneath this you get the clear sense that whatever Muslims, because it's
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a blanket term that Alex is using, but in this case obviously means like the Palestinians,
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whatever they're doing is bothering Israel.
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And so they need to stop it.
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They need to leave them alone.
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And so that's basically Alex's position.
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It's woefully pro-Israel.
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It is Israeli government and their policies.
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It is completely anti-Palestinian.
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He has no right to say that he has any kind of both sides on this.
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He is way far on one side.
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I mean, it's also hard to imagine Alex's opinions were some foreign country to just like conquer
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Texas and be like, actually we're going to have to give this back to Mexico.
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It's their land, historically speaking, so go fuck yourself.
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Well the real question is do they have nukes?
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Does Texas have nukes?
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Right?
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Right?
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That's the real question.
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I think Alex might have a different opinion if he was on the other-
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He may.
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I think so.
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I think that might be the case.
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So he's looking at this from the perspective of like you have a couple of neighbors, your
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husband and wife, and they're fighting with each other all the time.
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That's kind of how he's looking at this.
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That's a bad way to look at it.
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It is.
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He's looking at his analysis even if you just take the-
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Even without the global aspect to it.
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If you don't look at it metaphorically, still terrible.
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It's like if your neighbors beat each other up.
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They're two drunks, husband and wife, they're beating each other up every day, and you stop
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calling the cops and they try to rope you into their home disputes, you're like, listen,
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go kill yourselves, okay?
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Whoa.
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Escalation?
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Stop sucking me into your crap.
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Can I just be left alone by you?
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Muslims, you're doubling your numbers every 30 years.
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You're taking over.
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On average, you're the biggest welfare recipients in every country.
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You come milk the system.
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You have six kids- In every country?
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Every single one?
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Because of what color I am or I'm a Christian.
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Leave me alone.
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Get off my yard.
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Now, I want to pause it here really quick.
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We'll talk about this full clip once we get to the end of it, but right there, that leave
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me alone, get off my yard.
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I really thought it was going to be a repetition thing.
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Oh, yeah?
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The way he said it made it feel like it was going to be a call and response.
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Leave me alone.
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Get off my yard.
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Leave me alone.
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He's going to complain about other groups and then be like, leave me alone, get off
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my yard.
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I like that.
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Is this get her done?
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I was a little bit disappointed that he didn't use that structure.
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Tough.
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It's the same thing for the ADL and the same thing for the Simon Wiesenthal Center and
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all you guys.
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You're discredited.
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You're jokes.
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Any real Nazi, you support them.
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Like the one, an actual SS officer that actually rounded up and killed Jews in mass, getting
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standing ovations a few weeks ago.
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And has he been arrested?
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Has he been hauled back to Israel?
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No.
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They only haul back Alzheimer patients because they can't defend themselves.
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When it's a real Nazi, you don't grab them because that'd be a little embarrassing for
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the US and Canadian government, wouldn't it?
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And the Vatican and the rat lines.
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I know way too much.
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He knows too much.
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So it's actually the Simon Wiesenthal Center that raised concerns about Yuroslav Honka
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being applauded at the Canadian parliament.
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But this fact is inconvenient for Alex, so he ignores it and pretends it was that weirdo
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British fuck.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There have been moves made to try and extradite Honka, but it's unclear if any of them will
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be successful.
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It wouldn't be to Israel, though.
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And the country that's shown the most interest in extradition is Poland.
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They've talked about trying to bring him back to stand trial.
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Yeah, go for it.
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What Alex is saying here, though, is that they would never extradite or try a well-spoken
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Nazi with full mental capacity because if they did, the Nazi would reveal that many
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Nazis were able to escape through the rat lines.
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It's not controversial to claim that US intelligence at the time was aware of these escape networks
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and that they even made deals to free some of their own assets from Soviet areas through
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them.
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That kind of concern would never stop anybody from extraditing and trying a Nazi.
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It's not like this is something you have to keep under wraps.
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Yeah, I mean, at a certain point, how old is the dude?
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He's like, I think he's 90.
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Yeah, I mean, it's like, listen, I get it, but he can't Nazi at us anymore.
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And I mean, I can't believe he accepted an invitation to go to the...
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That's the thing that, like, the more I think about that story, the more I'm wilded out
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by that dude just being like, I bet they don't know I'm...
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He must have been fucking with them, right?
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But he's also in his 90s, so who knows how much, like, he was able to think through the
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decision of...
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See, again, but all of that leads to a place where it's like, what would we...
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Why would you waste your time extraditing him?
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I will say that if I were a Nazi, I would, and I made it to the 2020s, I probably would
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lay low.
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I would not go places.
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I mean, at that point, that guy's clearly playing with house money.
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It's true.
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So Adolf Eichmann was captured in 1960 and tried.
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Heinz Barth was tried in 1983 for his crimes at only 67 years of age at the time.
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Karl Frenzel was charged in 1966.
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There are plenty of examples of Nazis with their full mental faculties who have stood
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trial after the immediate period of the war.
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Alex is just talking shit.
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But then, once again, he is a master of a bad analogy.
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This drunk couple is...
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Kill yourselves.
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Wow.
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That's a very final advice.
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I think that's irresponsible.
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I would argue that it is, yes.
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And I would say that if your neighbors are so domestically violent with each other that
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it interferes with your life, you do have a responsibility to do something about it.
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Largely because there's an inherent power imbalance between the husband and wife situation
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where he's probably going to kill her if you don't do something.
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Eventually, it will escalate to a point where her life is in danger.
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I mean, yeah, it does seem not perfectly one-to-one, but my neighbors keep fighting and I'm listening
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to my neighbor abuse his wife are very similar.
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Very similar in definition.
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Maybe 99% of the same.
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Yeah, it's definitely at least an incredibly callous way to...
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Yeah.
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Say, woman, escape, or I guess both of you kill yourselves.
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Great.
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He didn't even say that first part.
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No, I know.
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I was like, I literally can't just say it.
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I can't say it.
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Yeah.
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I can't say it without...
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Why did you stop bothering me?
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Please, get psychological help.
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Please do not call 911.
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The social services program, they're not going to...
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They're going to send the cops.
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It's going to fuck up your whole relationship.
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What you need to do is you need to get counseling.
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I know a guy, the number.
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What number do you want?
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Honestly, your domestic violence is really about me and how it inconveniences me.
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You need to consider my feelings about this.
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And then we start...
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Don't listen to my friend over here.
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God damn it.
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Just ridiculous.
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Yep.
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So Alex, his real feeling is obviously always, basically, he just doesn't like people thinking
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he's a bad guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to be the villain of the Muslims or the villain to the leftist Jews or the
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villain to Black Lives Matter or the villain to anybody else.
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I've done nothing to any of you.
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I just want to live my life and be productive and be a good person.
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Leave me alone and leave my kids alone.
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And stop trying to chop their balls off.
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All right, I'm going to stop.
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I'm loaded for bear.
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I got so many clips, so much news.
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I am just disgusted by all this.
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Absolutely disgusted.
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I know the feeling.
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I'm disgusted too.
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Yeah, I will not be made the villain just after talking about how Muslims are incompatible
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with the United States.
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Go fuck yourself.
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On my one to 10 hate rankings, I put Muslims at a five.
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I'm not a villain?
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I put all Muslims.
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Why does everyone think I'm a villain?
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Whether I know them or not, what context they're in or not, whether or not they're an adult,
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whether or not they're even capable of choices at all.
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I hate them all at a five.
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I think my neighbors and other countries in the world should all just kill themselves
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because they inconvenience me a little bit.
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Why am I the villain?
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And everyone calls me the villain.
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Why?
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I'm just a good guy trying to get by.
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I specifically, listen, I'm not a hateful person.
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I said all Muslims and only a small section of Jews are the people that I hate.
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See, that's not racist.
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Yeah.
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He's in good territory.
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That makes sense.
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So this was just a weird phrasing.
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Okay.
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This is, I don't like a lot of the policies and things that go on in Israel, which is
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not one unified block.
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Political parties fight with each other does not mean I then endorse Islam.
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Can't you figure it out?
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I don't like tomatoes and I don't like cucumbers either.
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I do believe that he doesn't like a salad.
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You can see here that Alex allows the Israelis to be a diverse political block with many
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different perspectives.
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He doesn't agree with their political position sometimes, but for Islam, it's a monolithic
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thing where there is no difference between a terrorist in Hamas and a civilian at a mosque.
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If you pay attention to these little tells, it's really obvious the position Alex has
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in the side, he favors in everything.
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He can do this bullshit lip service about being above it all and not picking a side,
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but that's a charade.
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It's so transparent.
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It's blah.
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So anyway, Alex says that he's done ranting and then he starts ranting again.
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That sounds right.
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All right, I'm done ranting.
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I want to cover a bunch of news up with the phones up next hour here on this live Friday
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edition, but let me go over what's really happening in the Middle East.
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Like I said, Saturday and people said, Jones just said Hamas is behind this or Hezbollah
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is behind this, but it's really Hamas.
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No, it's, it's Hezbollah and that's who directed it and that's who funded it and Biden gave
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him the money and Biden gave him the weapons.
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Just doubling down.
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Why not?
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I was going to call me on his laptop now.
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We're not talking about open borders now.
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We're not talking about the national debt now.
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We're not talking about Ukraine now.
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We're not talking about any of that right now, are we?
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Alex is still not vindicated in his initial coverage that the Hamas attack was secretly
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all Hezbollah.
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He can claim that all he wants, but it doesn't really affect reality.
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Also, we can have multiple news stories existing at the same time.
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This conflict in the Middle East can exist and we can pay attention to it while at the
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same time we lament how idiotic the Republicans in the house are and they're setting themselves
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up for a disaster with the speaker showdown.
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We can talk about any, any number of issues.
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Alex, you have a three hour show every day.
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You are in control.
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Nobody over here.
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Nobody's talking about Azerbaijan right now.
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I don't hear Alex.
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He didn't even know that that was a thing that we're not talking about.
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How do you even know what we're not talking about?
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You don't know it.
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But here's the, here's the thing.
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It's so childish to complain about how no one is talking about things when you are a
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figure that is able to talk about things.
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His function is a news show.
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He could set the entire agenda for his information space.
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He doesn't need to complain about what CNN is doing.
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No, it's, it is an entire network that is like, imagine every, every show on CNN was
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just a constant like, well, they're not going to tell you about this fucking story.
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And they don't tell you about the story either.
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And all the anchors are babies.
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Yeah.
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They're just babies crying, whining, or just adolescents.
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I don't even want to talk about this story right now and nobody else is talking about
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it.
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That's how much I don't want to talk about it.
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I've honestly started to come around on a position that I have maybe I'm, I'm, I'm dancing
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around with this.
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Yeah.
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I have a strong suspicion that Alex hasn't really matured since about like ninth grade.
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Yeah.
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I believe that.
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I, I've, I'm starting to see more and more instances of, of like, this is a guy whose
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development just stopped.
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I do believe that there is some, yeah.
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And uh, anyway, um, maybe that'll play out.
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I mean, he's one of those, he's one of those, somebody better make him donate his brain
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to society once he's dead.
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I don't think it would be that interesting.
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I think it would be able to find a bunch of weird things that happened to a brain.
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Nah, I don't know.
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I don't think that his brain damage, like from a physical standpoint is actually as
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much as we've maybe played around with the idea in the past.
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Just cause he's talked about like being hit in the head with a brick and stuff like that.
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I don't know.
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I don't, I don't know if his brain is that interesting.
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I'd be interested to see what kind of CTE you were dealing with.
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Fine.
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You can have his brain.
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Thank you.
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That's all I was asking for.
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Anyway, Alex, read some headlines.
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Okay.
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Charles asked America to open its borders to Hamas and fund it open borders and Hamas
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supporting black lives matter.
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Figure it out yet?
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No.
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Hamas says 13 hostages killed and strikes on Gaza.
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Poll from earlier this year found more Democrats sympathize with Palestinians than with Israelis.
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Let that sink in.
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Cause it's one thing to be critical of Israel and Israel's a mess just like we are, but
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it's another thing to literally say, I support the Islamic Jihad.
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I support Hamas.
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I support Hezbollah.
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That is crazy.
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So I don't think Alex pre-screened these headlines that is in turn gathered.
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The first one's from a stupid right-wing blog, so it's fine.
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But Alex realizes in the middle of reading the second one that it's about Israel killing
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the captives that they were supposed to be freeing in the attacks on Gaza.
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Better just trail that one off and let it hang there and not just move on.
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The third headline is the most telling though.
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For Alex, sympathizing with the Palestinian people is the same as supporting Hamas, Hezbollah,
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and the Islamic Jihad.
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It doesn't matter if they're civilians, women, and children.
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The very existence of Muslim people is experienced as a threat by Alex.
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He makes no distinction at all between civilian and terrorist because to him they're the same.
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This is just one important piece of the puzzle of why Alex is literally incapable of credibly
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saying that he doesn't have a side in the issue of Israel's government's conflict with
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Hamas.
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He just can't possibly even have a position.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, because ultimately isn't the position strangely enough, you know, and they would
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never describe it this way, but this is the only way that makes sense out of like their
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belief system is just like, it is totally fine for me to kill all of these people because
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classic rules, if I kill their dad, they're just going to grow up and want to kill me.
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You know, like it's, it is so much that fucked up.
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It's so fucked up.
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I don't hear Alex articulating it that way, but no, none of them will, but how else can
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you be okay with that?
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How else can you possibly in your head be okay with it?
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You have to say, or just dehumanize the, the entire group.
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Like if you sincerely believe that they are not the same kind of human as you, that's
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what it has to take.
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Yeah.
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But um, so Alex wants to, uh, he wants to ban immigration from all Muslim countries
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like, uh, like Trump did.
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Yeah, great.
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I am for reinstating what Trump did, Islamic Muslim travel ban from seven countries who
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officially say, destroy the United States.
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No visas.
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Don't come here, go away.
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That's where I stand.
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And let's roll some of the B roll for TV viewers.
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You've got people storming the borders of Israel from all sides right now.
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We've got in France, giant Islamic riots going on.
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We have absolute bedlam breaking out where these people come here and they get on welfare
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and then they complain that we're not blowing Israel up.
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Now why would our governments, look at this footage, bring these people in, get a job,
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but no, they're in the evil Western country.
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They're here to get the welfare.
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The average islamist is like 80% or more is on welfare.
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Can I go to a Muslim country and get some welfare?
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No.
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Please cite your sources on this shit.
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Wild.
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Um, because this is just the same shit he does with, uh, you know, Mexican people whenever
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he needs to, whatever, whatever group he's targeting at that point is the biggest drain
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on welfare stuff because it's just a little, little string that he can pull to elicit a
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reaction in his audience, create that hate, create that resentment.
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The only people that aren't being taken care of are you and you know whose fault it is?
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Them.
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It's their fault.
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Go be mad at them because they're taking what is rightfully yours.
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Your birthright.
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Yup.
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So that comes to this, I think.
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There's a lot going on in the world and there's a lot of very differing interests that people
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have.
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You can say that Hamas has an interest in what they're doing.
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There's a motive to what they're doing.
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Sure.
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Palestinians want rights.
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Uh, the Palestinian people as a whole, uh, Israel has an agenda that they're pursuing.
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The United States has an agenda.
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There's a lot going on, interconnected pieces and, but really this is all about taking Alex's
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guns.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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We can pull the headline up.
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Israeli defense minister.
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We're going to arm all the Jews in Israel.
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This was going to be in Southern Israel three days ago.
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Yesterday.
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They said, you know what?
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Any Jew, any Israeli in Israel that's an Israeli citizen can have a gun permit.
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Aren't you nice?
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Aren't you sweet?
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You live next to the Gaza strip, 2 million people want to kill you.
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You're a mile away from it.
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And then you move there and you have dance parties out in the desert, right across from
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the fence.
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But people don't want to kill you.
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So here's the deal.
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If the Jews don't want guns and they want to live in a hostile area and all get killed,
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I'm sad for them, but that's their business.
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That's basically a form of suicide, but don't take my guns and you can't swing a stick in
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the dark in DC without hitting some leftist Jewish lobby that wants to take the American
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people's guns.
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So that seems to be behind this somehow?
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Taking Alex's guns?
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I still feel like I should be able to go dance.
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I'm going to throw that out there.
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You know what?
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Rules of engagement wise, and I'm going to say this to all the militaries on the world
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right now.
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If you are fighting a war, it is not with me, the person dancing at this disco.
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You're fighting with somebody else.
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Go fight with them.
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I'm dancing.
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Well, because you didn't dance with a gun, you are part of...
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It is so dangerous to dance with a gun.
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Have you not seen how many rappers have shot themselves in multiple parts?
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You are part of the attack on Alex's gun rights because you won't dance with a gun.
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That's true.
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I can't argue with that.
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So this next clip, I felt an energy in it.
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Oftentimes I think that Alex has a really fake kind of presentation.
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A lot of the things that he does are very performance-y.
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I felt some reality behind this and it really fucking made me uncomfortable.
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Oh, this is no good.
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And imagine the attitude of the majority of the Israelis that never even saw it living
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in a tiny country surrounded by enemies to own guns.
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You're your own worst enemy, not me.
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I don't want to kill you.
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I don't want to hurt you.
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I wish you prosperity and to have your religion and live in peace and be productive members
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of society.
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But it's time for Jews, particularly, to choose a side.
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Are you with the West?
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Are you with right to self-defense?
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Are you against communism?
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Or do you embrace those tenets?
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And if you embrace communism and disarmament and enslavement, then go.
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Go live amongst the Arabs and get killed.
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I'm not the one killing you.
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Go kill yourself.
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Take your children with you.
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I'm sorry you're going to get them killed too.
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I'm not saying I want your kids killed.
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But your bizarre behavior is causing this.
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We can't just point at the Muslims and say they're out of control and a bunch of babies
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and they kill each other constantly and they got all these issues, which they do.
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Great.
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Let them live in their own area.
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Let us control our countries and stop them coming here.
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Don't have the ADL attack me because I want to kick radical Muslims out and want to stop
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them coming here in mass.
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They're here to conquer us.
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Don't you point your finger at me trying to survive and live and say I'm the bad person.
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I reject that.
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You're the bad person.
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I'm sick of you.
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It's your fault.
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Just like I'm sick of the CIA and the FBI and the Democrat Republican Party opening
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our damn borders up to bring all these people in and brainwashing them against us because
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I'm white.
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I'm not a person that's in identity politics, but you've made it that way.
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Everywhere it's bad because I'm white.
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Everywhere it's bad because I'm Christian.
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Everywhere I don't deserve to have a job because of what color I am.
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Are we talking about Israel?
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Are you still or no?
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Everywhere I'm a bad person.
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No.
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No.
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I try not to say this too much because it can become a little tiresome, but this clip
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in particular really makes me think that Alex desperately needs to see a therapist.
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He's rambling from topic to topic, his thoughts are so disorganized, and he's just yelling
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about his own feelings.
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This has no attachment to reality, only to his own fears and anger, which is then he's
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preaching that to the audience as if it's some kind of good political analysis.
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He's a really fucked up person in a lot of pain, and he's actively hurting people that
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he comes into contact with because of it, and the people he's coming into contact with
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are sometimes just people listening to his show.
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He's able to disseminate his feelings and anger through a radio program.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it would be... Neither of us would allow this.
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Neither of us would allow this, but- From each other?
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The idea of me allowing my unfiltered depression speak to come through this radio to other
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human beings?
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Never.
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Never would be allowed in a... Ever.
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No.
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No.
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That's unacceptable behavior.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To give that to somebody else is fucked up.
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Yeah.
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Especially, it's interpersonally messed up to act this way towards someone in your life.
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Yes.
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Because you're trying to burden them with your feelings.
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Yeah.
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Essentially.
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Yeah.
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To do that on a grand scale on a radio show is like... I can't even imagine what kind
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of... You have to either be completely unaware of what you're doing, you have to be so oblivious
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or so malicious.
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Yeah.
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There's only two options, and if you're oblivious, then you have a responsibility to learn about
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what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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It is so solipsistic, the idea of just being like, I can just give all of my emotions to
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the world and it'll be fine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They'll feel this for me or something.
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Yeah.
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You don't... Yeah.
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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A lot of the time, Alex's clips and rants kind of make me roll my eyes or they bum me
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out because he's wrong and lying about shit, but that clip, actually, I find kind of chilling.
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A clip like that feels compulsive.
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It actually does feel like there's an energy behind it that's being drummed.
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It's not drummed up as a performance, and that energy is, essentially, Alex feeling
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like he's under threat and feeling in pain, and he's coping with that by making everyone
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else feel that same way.
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Yeah.
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It's so dark.
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Yeah.
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It just... No, I mean, you're right.
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It is the type of behavior you'd see in a high school student, and then someone would
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hopefully do something.
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And the way it's being expressed is villain shit.
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Yep.
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This is talking about isolating and expelling Muslims from the country.
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Jews need to pick a side, whatever the fuck that means.
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Yep.
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This is horrific stuff.
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Mm-hmm.
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Anyway, we move on now to talking about how Cenk Uygur is running for president.
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Oh, good for him.
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Cool.
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Wait, what?
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Why?
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What?
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Stop.
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I got more on this.
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I got more clips.
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I got Ukraine war news.
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I got a communist.
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Cenk Uygur is starting the bestiality national party.
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I'm not joking.
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He says his first act, this is not a joke, when he is president is to legalize, quote,
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pleasuring animals.
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By the way, when I say Bill Gates wants to block out the sun and cut down trees, I have
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video clips.
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Folks, I'm not joking.
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The Young Turk leader says that his national platform is having sex with animals, and that
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his first act as president will be pleasuring donkeys and other creatures.
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Sure.
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We're going to play that clip coming up next hour.
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So Alex has this old clip of Cenk saying that if he were king of the world, he would make
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it legal to pleasure animals.
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This is an old clip, and it's clear that he might be drunk, and that it's an attempt to
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make an edgy argument that forces another person to solidify what it is about bestiality
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that's actually wrong.
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This is really more a form of philosophical trolling than anything else, because it's
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really hard for someone who hasn't thought about it to articulate why it's wrong to have
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sex with an animal if you're not hurting it.
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That is a game that people play.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because obviously there's good arguments for why you shouldn't, but most people just have
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an instinctive revulsion, and they don't examine their position.
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So that's why someone like Cenk can come in and have some fun, by confronting people with
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what's their first attempt at making an argument against bestiality, and then forcing them
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to refine their position.
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Which is also something a high school boy would do, you would be like, hey, I hope somebody
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deals with this.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Because this is fucking annoying.
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It's the kind of stuff your friends would do around a bong circle, you know?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Whenever it's just you and your friends, and you already have a pre-established like for
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these people, maybe.
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Anything short of that, shut the fuck up.
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Since years ago, and Cenk was on air, maybe he wasn't as big as he is now then, but also
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at the same time it's like, alright, this is a little fucking stupid.
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It's very stupid.
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Satire!
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But it does also, I mean, I don't care.
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I really, really don't care.
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I really don't care, yeah.
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But it's fun and games to take this and pretend that Cenk's a national platform that he's
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running for president on is fucking animals, but this is just degrading to get into after
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the first hour of this show.
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It's been so convoluted and so hateful and so full of Alex claiming to have access to
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these concrete real pieces of information.
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Now he's saying that he's not joking about Cenk launching a bestiality party.
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Like what are we supposed to take seriously?
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This genocidal rant he had earlier in the show, or like, you know, Cenk's pleasuring
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donkeys or Alex feeling like he's a victim in the world because he's white?
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What are we doing?
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Yeah.
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Also, Cenk, what is this?
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What is this?
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Go away.
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This campaign that at best is a publicity stunt.
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I don't know of anybody who thinks that it's a good tactical move or a viable strategy
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to achieve any public good.
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That being said, because I'm not a fucking idiot, I don't have to rely on years-old clips
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that are out of context in order to make that argument.
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But apparently Alex does.
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And good fun and games, maybe trying to bring some levity to the program after telling all
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Muslims to get the fuck out of our country and telling other people all around the world
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to kill themselves because they're bothering Alex.
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This is, I mean, we were, so we forgot to say anything because that's just us.
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We were on the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast, thank you very much to the hosts
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of that for having us on.
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But there is that like, you know, that superficial Alex lie and then the deeper Alex lie.
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You know, whenever we're talking to them, they just have that, oh, he's the turn the
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freaking frogs gay guy.
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And in the same, and then today's episode.
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That's the jenk part of it.
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That's the jenk part of it.
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And then today we're listening to it and it's, I want to kill non-white people, contextualized,
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put it all together.
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And you have a man who says, I want to live in a world where all non-white people are
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dead or away from me in a meaningful way so they cannot interact with me at all.
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Like that is Alex.
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That is the reality.
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And that's the message that he wants to get to you by luring you in with, I'm gonna eat
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my neighbor's ass, frogs are gay, jenk wants to fuck animals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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That's the game.
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He gets to have both in a way that we don't allow anybody else to do, or at least nobody
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else has been able to trick society into allowing them to do it.
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And nobody, nobody else does it as extremely.
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Yeah, that's definitely true.
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So in this next clip, Alex has a defense of a guy in Australia, or I think it was a couple
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of guys who were, uh, hailing Hitler outside of a Jewish museum.
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There was some trouble there to make him, that's for sure.
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So he makes a defense of them on free speech grounds, which I think is iffy, um, but you're
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never going to guess how this ends.
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Manicues of committing a vile act outside Sydney's Jewish museum in the wake of Hamas
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terror attack in Israel cover their faces after being charged.
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Can we put the actual article up, please?
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I want to show the actual photos they're talking about because the printout doesn't do that.
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I'll wait while you do that.
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Yeah.
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Scroll down.
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So, okay.
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A guy goes and does a Heil Hitler and he's Ukraine shirt.
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And now once you set the precedent to be able to take his right to go Heil Hitler in front
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of a synagogue or a Jewish center, now all my other rights to promote the second amendment
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are standing in transgenderism or any of this go out the door.
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And that's what this is all about.
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So I hear all day a lot of Israel.
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So free speech.
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Great.
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Then some of our free speech alone.
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And I won't have to criticize you because I'm going to criticize Gigi ping.
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I'm going to criticize Benjamin Netanyahu.
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I'm going to criticize Barack Obama slash Biden.
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Can't let it go.
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I don't care what color you are, what your religion is.
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When you do stuff like that, I'm going to come out against you because it's wrong and
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it's tyrannical.
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And they've already said the American people and Christians and Catholics are the number
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one terror threat.
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And Homeland Security isn't for Hamas or Hezbollah running around with their Black Lives Matter
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events saying, kill Israel, death of Jews.
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And those of us that aren't doing that, those of us that aren't doing that, we get the blame
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and we get attacked.
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So no, those idiot Nazis are probably left as posing as that.
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I'm sorry?
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They have their right to.
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Everybody gets to speak.
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What does Bill Maher's quote in the back of my book say?
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Alex Jones gets to speak.
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Everybody gets to speak.
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The Great Awakening is my new book.
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Start shipping.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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Oh, sales pitch for the book.
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That was a ban.
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You know, I should have seen that pitch coming.
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I should have.
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Yeah.
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I understand that free speech rules are meant to protect abhorrent speech.
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That's definitely true.
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Although I do have a question if hailing Hitler at a Jewish center is necessarily protected
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speech.
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I don't know if I don't I think that might be like an action that might fall under the
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category of fighting words.
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Kind of.
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I mean, what?
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OK, go up to go behind somebody who's showering, holding a knife, and then start going.
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But don't actually hit him.
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Right.
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That speech.
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Sure.
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I mean, there is a line.
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There is a protest against something, I guess, because you could make the erroneous and bad
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argument that these people were engaging in a form of protest.
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Yeah, which they were not doing.
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No, certainly not.
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But you could make that argument if you're trying to find a way to, like, defend this
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on speech grounds.
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That's all I'm saying.
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The nicest you could be is that they were trying to intimidate.
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Yes.
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The nicest.
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Yes.
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And whether or not that intimidation is crossing a line of free speech.
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That is another question.
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However, also in Australia, not sure exactly if they have the exact same constitution as
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us.
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I bet they don't.
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Probably not.
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Yeah.
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So, Alex, he's always right.
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He always predicts stuff.
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You put a quarter in that prediction jar every time Alex is right about something.
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So he predicted this attack in Israel.
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The meme and the prediction machine.
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Yep.
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There's a new video.
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It's only 28 seconds long from September 7th, a little more than a month ago, where I predicted
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attacks on Jews to bring in the new world order of tyranny.
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That clip's now going viral.
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We'll play that here in a few minutes.
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But let me get to these clips, then back to your calls.
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So there's an almost 12-minute video of Alex allegedly predicting an attack on Israel on
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Band.video, but there's not one that's 28 seconds long.
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I found that kind of interesting.
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What's going on here?
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So I went ahead and watched this video, and it's not all about an attack on Israel.
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Alex was trying to run cover for the neo-Nazi groups that were popping up last month, and
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people were discussing.
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He was trying to claim that these groups were fronts for the ADL, and the fact that they
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were appearing in public was a precursor to one of them carrying out an attack on a U.S.
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synagogue or school.
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He was predicting violence against Jewish people, but the context was entirely different.
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So this isn't even close to an accurate prediction.
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And I want to be clear about something.
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Alex is very obviously dealing with his entire world event by making it about himself.
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The Hamas attack into Israel is about trying to take his guns.
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The ADL is saying everything is anti-Semitic to make Alex feel bad.
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He's so right about everything that he predicted this, uh, last month.
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It's a really grotesque way to engage with the world, but it's very in line with Alex's
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narcissism.
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He's playing out his fantasies of everything being about him in front of his wide audience,
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and it's fascinating that anyone thinks they're watching anything deeper than that.
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It should be a huge tip-off that Alex is really just about self-aggrandizement if you watch
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this video that purports to have reported, uh, predicted the attack, and you'll see it's
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a completely unrelated context.
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Alex and his staff took the time to find this clip, isolate it, and post it on his website
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with the headline, Alex predicts attacks on Israel, specifically so they could drive traffic
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to Infowars under false pretenses.
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That should be a fucking lightbulb moment, but if that big book infomercial that he did
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while the attack was unfolding wasn't enough to wake people up, I don't know if anything
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will.
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I think we're, I think we're done.
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Yeah.
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So Alex plays the clip.
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Sure.
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The 28-second clip.
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The clip that's about how Alex predicted white people would pretend to be Hamas?
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No, no.
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At this point, no, at this point in the video, Alex is pretending that this clip is him predicting
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an attack on Israel.
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Right.
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But the actual clip is about neo-Nazis.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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But we don't know that yet.
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Right.
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We're going to go back to Owl Killer here in a moment, but here's just a short 28-second
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clip.
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I'll show you the Twitter account.
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It's non-compliant at fluoridated mine.
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We should actually find the full clip from September last month, a little over a month
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ago, I guess 34 days ago, where I laid it all out and predicted attacks on Jews.
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Here it is.
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Those are Nazis about to kill Jews.
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You must silence everyone that opposes our agenda of surveillance and censorship or you're
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going to kill Jews.
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Now, what's the next move?
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The false flag.
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If I was Jewish, I would not have my kids at any big synagogue or any big school.
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You're about to get hit.
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It's your whole future.
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It's the whole future of the species and our children and their children were being turned
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into factory farm slaves.
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The very rights over our bodies is being assaulted like never before.
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Now as I continue to do this, the media says Jones throws a lot on the wall and sees what
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will stick.
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Oh, like when I said Russia was invaded by the end of February last year.
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Alex didn't predict the Russian invasion.
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He was all over the place in his predictions, most of which were actually about China.
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And even as the invasion was happening, he said that it wasn't going to be a full invasion
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and that Zelensky was on Putin's payroll so the war would be over in 48 hours.
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Alex is full of shit and constantly wrong.
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I wanted to play this prediction though because it's very manipulative.
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First things first, everything Alex says after you're about to be hit comes from another
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place and was edited into the back of this clip.
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It really doesn't serve to strengthen Alex's point, but I'm calling it out because it's
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a very clear indication that this is a selectively edited clip and some ding-dong on Twitter
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just put it together.
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Now here is where the real sleight of hand is.
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Here is how this version of the clip begins.
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Now here's that same section, but without the beginning of Alex's thought being removed.
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ADL stack.
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When I say ADL stack, it's the UN taking control, it's the WEF taking control of your speech,
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it's all the admitted censorship, it's all the control, and it's word for word what I've
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been saying last week with these Nazi groups popping up, that the ADL is going to come
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out and say, those are Nazis about to kill Jews, you must silence everyone that opposes
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our agenda of surveillance and censorship or you're going to kill Jews.
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Now what's the next move?
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The false flag.
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If I was Jewish, I would not have my kids in any big synagogue or any big school.
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You're about to get hit.
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The beginning part is snipped off and ignored because when it's there, Alex didn't really
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make any kind of real prediction, but if you pretend he didn't say the things he said,
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you can make it look like he was so prophetic.
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This is a really simple card trick that he's playing in order to wow the audience into
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thinking that he has magical powers.
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This clip is from September 6th, which is right after a bunch of neo-Nazis demonstrated
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in Orlando near Disney World.
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It was super important for Alex to preemptively paint them as false flags in case they carried
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out any violence, which is what he was doing in the clip that's now being used to pretend
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that he made an accurate prediction.
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This shit is a game to Alex, and it's deeply disrespectful to the seriousness of the times.
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People are suffering and dying, and he's trying to make you think he can see the future by
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lying about what he said in the past.
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It's fucking disgraceful.
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Yeah, they might as well just have him, I mean, he should just do a voiceover session
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one day where he just goes, and I believe that the next people to attack Israel will
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be blank, and then just fills them out, and then they can just edit it in whenever he
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needs it, and they'll post a clip online that says he predicted it.
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Look, here's the thing.
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I was looking at the comments on that video, on ban.video, and all of them are like, fuck
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you, Alex, which is great, because it seems like the public opinion may be not positive.
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They were like, who cares if you predict things?
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What does this even mean?
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There's stuff like that.
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Right.
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Well, that's the wrong, but okay.
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One of the comments was accusing him of making a deep fake, and it's not, but why doesn't
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he?
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Yeah, it might as well be.
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Yeah.
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He's misrepresenting the things-
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It would make so much more sense.
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He is manipulating in some way the things that were said in the past in order to suit
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his purposes in the present.
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Why not just make it up whole cloth?
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Yeah.
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It doesn't matter.
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He can say it was from a special report they didn't air or something.
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Who cares?
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Yeah, he's unnecessary for this operation.
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This is about making the noises that people need to hear at the right time.
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Alex doesn't need to actually make those noises.
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He's already made enough of the noises, they can create a vocal profile off of him, and
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then just do the thing, and then they just, whoop, whoop, whoop.
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And then anybody can be a racist like Alex.
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So from here, Alex gets confusing, I think.
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This is-
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Because he was making sense before.
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He was making sense and nice, and I've had so many Jewish people come to me in the grocery
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store or airports, oh, Alex, we love you, a lot of them are ascetic Jews, you know,
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in their conservative attire, and I'm like, listen, what have you done for me?
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It's like the Belmar joke saying Jews complain all day.
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Well, I complain way more than any Jew I know.
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I'm like, hey, great, you want to shake my hand and take a picture?
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What are you doing for me?
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Because I'm not against you, and I'm getting attacked, and well, that's politics, Alex,
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we like you.
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Okay, great.
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I'm under attack, man, so why don't you, you know, okay, well, yeah, exactly, like, I didn't
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do anything to you, and I'm not your enemy, so you need to tell the ADL, stop trying to
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destroy me and Elon Musk.
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Like, well, hey, we're better than the Muslims.
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Well, yeah, exactly, I'm talking to you.
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What the fuck is going on?
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What, what, that was where the, that's where the clip ends.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm talking to you because you're not a Muslim.
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Right.
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Do you understand?
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Right, right, right, so, okay, okay, so you're part of a group.
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One out of ten on my hate scale.
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Sure, no, no, because this is a conservative Jew.
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You like me.
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This is a conservative Jewish person.
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Sure, sure, which I can totally tell from, because you said you like me.
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Most Jews are the ones that are one on the, they would never, we'll just lump all of them
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in together, like Alex seems to want to do with everybody, but that means I will talk
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to you and demand things from you.
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I demand that in order to shake my hand and take a picture, you must condemn the ADL.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I need you to destroy the ADL, and then, this whole approach of like, what have you done
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for me lately?
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Wild.
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Jewish people.
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Wild.
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It's just like, what?
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I mean, first off-
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I can't even imagine getting to this point in your head.
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People do not come up to you all the time.
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Alex, we're Jewish and we love you.
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I don't care.
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That doesn't happen.
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Probably not.
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But even more importantly, this fantasy is also purely in Alex's head about Alex, though,
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you know?
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Like, Alex doesn't actually say, what have you done for me?
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No.
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He's like a fictional person that he's embodying, where he's like-
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Anybody who comes up to Alex and says, I like you, he's thrilled.
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But I mean, yeah.
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But I mean, in this situation, though, he's creating the protagonist, is Alex being an
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asshole to people who like him?
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And he's like, this is what I should do.
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Puffing his chest out.
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This man's insane.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's something I've been saying for a while.
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I think I'm starting to come around on it.
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Yeah.
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He gets into his feelings a little bit more, and I would describe this as a bit of a meltdown
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where he's wrestling with the idea that he doesn't owe the Jews anything, which is-
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You could say none of this.
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It would be very easy.
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You could say so little.
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And then he compares himself to Jewish people in the Holocaust.
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Great.
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I was wondering.
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My grandfather stood up for the Jews on both of them, almost out of the Army Air Corps.
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And I don't claim you owe me some debt, but at the same time-
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That's already a claim.
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And I am tired of being attacked.
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And the white supremacists make a joke, oh, Jones pleads to his masters, screw you, half
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those white supremacist groups are funded by the feds.
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I'm not even having a debate with them.
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I'm having a real debate with people that say they're smart.
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Do I deserve this?
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Why do conservatives who've done nothing to Israel deserve to be persecuted and attacked
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like Hitler did in the beginning?
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I'm not comparing what's happening to conservatives to what Hitler did.
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But if you follow 1933 to 1943, when the last two years starts murdering everybody.
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It's the next sense.
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We're just following deplatforming, putting us in ghettos, lying about us, demonizing
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us.
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I mean, no, we're actually on the same track here.
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And so I'm like saying, hey, you need to get behind Trump and America.
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And a lot of Jews will say we are.
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Hey, great, because I think you'll listen to me.
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I'm not talking to the Muslims, but I can convince them anything.
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I'm talking to you because I think you can listen to what I'm telling you.
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OK, more than almost any recent episode, I don't really have much to say about a lot
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of the clips that we have.
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Sure.
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They're so transparently and self-evidently fucked up that I don't know what commentary
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I can add to this.
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It's just almost like a reporting of he said these things.
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It's hard to believe.
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It's difficult to believe that these things could be said, let alone that someone would
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say them out loud, let alone that someone would say them out loud in front of people,
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let alone that someone would say them and broadcast them to a large number of people.
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That's a lot of things that didn't need to happen.
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And the way that he feels kind of at the mercy of his feelings, the way that he's being blown
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around by the wind of his own anger and hate just feels so fucked up.
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It does feel like there is something just deeper than just your generalized racism going
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on here.
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There is something that is fundamental to the Israel conflict and the way he interacts
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with Judaism as a concept that is irreconcilable.
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One of the things is that his entire ideology and his worldview grows out of deeply anti-Semitic
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places.
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Sure.
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Has to.
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So much of the ideology and the conspiracies are based around false images that are derived
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from places like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
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Simultaneously, so many of his forefathers and the people who were part of these patriot
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communities were fighting against a Zionist-occupied government.
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They were very clearly anti-Semites.
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And so much of his worldview has that baked into it.
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There is so much of a feeling about Israel, one way or another, in that world.
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And he's tortured by that somewhat.
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I mean, I think he doesn't want to be an anti-Semite, and he can't figure out how not to be.
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Because the world that he's in is intrinsically anti-Semitic.
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Exactly.
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He is anti-Semitic.
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Yes.
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All of his ideology surrounding the globalists, everything about the characterizations that
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he has of the globalists, the conspiracies that have been passed down over time, the
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blood-liable stuff, well-poisoning, all kinds of this stuff, these are remnants of anti-Semitic
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canards over time.
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And so he can't escape that.
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Yeah, no, if he was to go on your trope ayahuasca journey, it would be him being like, oh, I
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hate the Jews.
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That's the realization that gets through the cognitive dissonance that is destroying him.
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You forget how close we were to that.
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Mancow was going on ayahuasca retreats.
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Oh, yeah, that's true, that's true, that's right.
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But I think that there is something to that, and that there may be a part of him that knows
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that it is wrong and bad Jews.
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It's wrong to hate the Jews.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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He can process that.
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But his world is so marinated in that.
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He hates the Jews.
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He would have to give up on so much of what is himself.
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He cannot do both.
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And I don't think he realizes that.
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He can't.
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But simultaneously, he really hates Muslims.
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Really hates Muslims.
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And he also comes from a time where he came to prominence after 9-11.
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And in order to be against Bush, and the easiest way to support opposition to the war in Iraq
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was condemning the rank Islamophobia that was going on in the time.
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And so a big part of his early brand, as he was coming to the forefront, was a non-Islamophobic
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voice on the right.
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Now he's trying to make up for lost time.
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Well, I'm not sure if that's what it is, but there's that tension, too, that he's just
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a man that's just off.
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He can't have a harmonious hold because of who he is.
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He can never exist within himself as a human being, as a whole.
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He will always be irrevocably broken.
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And there may be some parts of him that actually does want to be anti-Semitic, too.
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But it's anti-Semitic towards specific Jewish people that he feels like are okay to be targets
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of anti-Semitism.
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He can throw anti-Semitic attacks at the leftist Jews who don't like him, and he doesn't see
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that as anti-Semitic.
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Also there is a part of it that he doesn't mind being it also.
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So I think that that's a part of it.
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He's just, he's fucked.
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It's like, listen, man, give up on either not hating the Jews or on everything you believe.
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Well, unfortunately, if he gives in to just being an out-and-out anti-Semite, he does
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probably lose a fair amount of his market share.
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Sure, but then he just needs to admit it to himself.
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But he's also incredibly, oh, but then the tension of him trying to pretend not to be
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on air all the time, I think would be, well, it'd be about the same as now.
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That's what I'm saying.
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See, it would be the same, but he wouldn't be emotionally destroyed by it.
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He would be professionally struggling with it.
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Whereas this really feels like it hurts him to be a Nazi.
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There is more close to sincere feeling than there have been in so many shows in the past.
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It's weird.
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It's weird.
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So in this next clip, I want you to pay attention to how Alex kind of slips between saying leftist
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Jews and globalists.
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And that's, that's interesting.
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All I want is prosperity and justice and freedom for everybody.
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And to have your culture, I respect all your cultures.
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Islam is blasting, taking over.
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You have like six kids.
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I respect you, but you don't respect me.
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You talk about how I will submit to you.
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No, I'm not going to.
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And that goes for the leftist Jews that think they're going to create some kumbaya thing
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where we all get one culture and somehow you run it or some leftist group, some black rock.
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And that's not going to work.
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We're diverse.
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We're separate.
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We're different groups.
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Leave us alone.
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individuals made dozens of runs at the Orthodox Jews.
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I don't even know what that means.
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And takes their kids and everything else.
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It's it's leave the Orthodox Jews alone.
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Leave the Christians alone.
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Leave the Catholics alone.
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Leave us alone.
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Leave us alone.
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Leave us alone.
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Leave us alone.
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Leave us alone.
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Leave us alone.
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And then you can have your life and we'll have ours just leave our children alone.
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Leave their penises alone.
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Leave their vaginas alone.
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Leave their uteruses alone.
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Leave their I mean, literally, the globalists literally want our children's future.
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And does anybody think in this fight, anybody safe?
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So you see the slippid slipping.
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He's complaining throughout a fair amount of that about leftist Jewish people.
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And then the globalists.
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Well, and it's because they're interchangeable.
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Yeah.
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Alex doesn't want that to be true.
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And he or at least he doesn't want people to think that's true.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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But that's pretty much Yep.
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What's going on?
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I it's just it is impossible to avoid that as fact.
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And if it is fact for him, then I think it's safe to assume it's fact for his best buds.
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Well, and that's why you get the people who are calling in who will say stuff like I love
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Alex, but why won't he just name the Jews as the people who he's talking about?
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It's because stuff like this, right?
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It's very obvious that these are terms that first of all, have a historical lineage.
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And then second of all, have rhetorical equivalence in Alex's usage.
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The audience gets it.
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Alex just pretends that it's not the case.
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Yeah.
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Sad.
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Yep.
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And it's straight, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
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We're going into a full world war.
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And the powerful globalist forces in control of this.
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Think we're all a bunch of dumb animals that are gonna get away with this, but they're
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not.
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Wait, what?
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So we're strapped to this runaway train together.
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Okay.
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That's why I respect everybody.
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That's why I tell you straight what I think.
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That what you're doing?
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I respect you.
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And I want you to know what I'm saying.
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I want you to hear me talk straight to me.
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I'm talking straight to you.
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Here's how I've been abused.
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Here's what's been done to me.
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I'm complaining.
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I'm tired of this.
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I don't appreciate this.
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I don't deserve this.
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And your problem is not everybody is as smart as I am.
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And the level of anger by Christians and by white people of being abused by this media
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and this government is outrageous.
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And you know, the ADL, the Democratic Party, they think they got this all figured out.
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You don't have anything figured out.
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You're the dumbest people I've ever seen in my life.
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Because I've learned no matter how bad ass you are, there's always somebody can kick
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your ass.
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And you guys are conjuring up a monster.
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This is really standard authoritarian kind of rhetoric.
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The people pointing out oppression are creating it by criticizing the people who are supposed
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to be in charge and above criticism.
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It's very clear to see that what Alex is talking about is basically meant as a threat.
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You're acting out of your station and Alex speaks on behalf of white Christians that
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they will not tolerate this much longer.
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Also, this is super whiny and self-aggrandizing.
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Still, everything is about Alex and how he feels like he's been unfairly treated.
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He's smart, though, so he'll just complain about this on air and make millions of dollars
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while encouraging acts of terrorism against fellow citizens.
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The rest of the white Christian population, they're not as smart, though, so they might
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just take matters into their own hands and attack you pretty violently.
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I'd sure hate for that to happen, so maybe you should do exactly what I say.
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That's kind of the vibe that's going on here.
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This is fucking ridiculous.
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Yeah, but...
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Are you shooting straight?
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You know what I really like about it?
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What's that?
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What I really like about my fascist protection racket threats is when they're delivered by
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the whiniest of goons.
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Every time I've always seen in those movies where they're like, hey, if you don't pay
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you money, then maybe something bad will happen to you here.
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It was always in a sense of like, hey, we're all somewhat jovial about this.
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This is fucked up, but what are we going to do?
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We're all just coming to work today, that kind of thing.
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Right.
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Hey, we need to go get the protection money.
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Not like somebody going up and just being like, I really need your money and I hate
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that I have to do this because it makes me feel bad to take your money from you and you're
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making me do that.
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Please don't make it.
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Give me your money sooner because I'm so sad that I have to take your money from you.
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Don Corleone, why did you send Johnny the whiner again?
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That would be a pretty serious torture.
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That would be...
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I would be really...
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You were supposed to pick up some money.
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You said self persecuting Vinny over there.
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Why did you do that?
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Solipsistic Sal won't stop leaving me.
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Oh, God.
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It's just...
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The worst.
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Yeah, it's the worst.
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The worst.
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So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's really just a caller asking if Biden
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and Iran will team up to do some false flags in order to stop the next election from happening.
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Answer yes, lightning round.
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Yeah, of course.
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Next question.
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So Alex gets another call and this was fun.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Darrell in Missouri, you're on the air.
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Go ahead.
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Hello.
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Thanks for taking the call, Alex.
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I'm Missouri battle flag on Twitter and I have a lawsuit against the ADL and I'd like
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folks to look it up.
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I'll repost it at the top of my page.
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Well, I'd like to buy you a chicken fried steak if you were here with me.
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Tell me about it.
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Not an award.
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Well, I talked to you about four months ago and you asked me if I was in the Klan and
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I'm not.
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I think we have to, you know, you were saying, let's not kill people and you had a whole
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list there and I'd say, let's not kill the Muslims either.
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And you know, they're, they're calling them animals and I'm accused of being a racist
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hater and that's not true.
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And I'd like people to read my complaint.
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They've put a motion to dismiss forward and I, and it's really a summary judgment.
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I'm a pro se attorney.
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Why did I ask you if you were in the Klan?
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I mean, here's the deal.
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The Klan's fed run and have a picture of me at a Klan rally where someone said, Hey, Darrell,
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say hail Christ.
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And I, I made a salute with, I don't remember.
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Oh boy.
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Okay.
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So this is Darrell McClanahan and we covered him.
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I remember this last time he called in.
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I remember because that, that button got me the last time too.
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Yeah.
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So I'm not going to get too far into him again, but he may just be underselling the whole
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being pictured doing a Nazi salute at a Klan rally thing.
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He forgot to mention that he's doing it next to a guy in a full hooded Klan robe and that
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they're standing in front of a burning cross.
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And again, he said, he said, hile Christ again, he didn't say, he didn't like figure it out
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this time.
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He also failed to mention that he was a member of the league of the south and that he has
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a VK social media account that's full of like racial slurs and antisemitic depictions of
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Jewish people and that he'd been a guest on a radio show hosted by a noted clan member
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called Euro folk radio.
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You may recall him also as the person who ran for us house seat in 2022 and ended up
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having to do a write in campaign cause he lost the Republican primary and he came out
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with a total of one vote.
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Oh, so close.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I guess he's now suing the ADL, which is going to turn out great.
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I think he's got a shot.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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I think this one's, I, I'm such a huge fan of the, I was highlighting Christ.
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I love it.
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I just, it just doesn't get any funnier than that, that you think that that's a distinction.
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Your honor, you're, you're sitting here just going like, Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I only wanted to kill most of the Jews.
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Completely different.
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Your honor.
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I wasn't in the clan.
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I was at a clan rally.
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Brian Regan.
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What just happened to me?
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It was close.
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Um, I think that is an interesting distinction.
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I was not a member.
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Yeah.
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I was not a member.
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Absurd.
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Absurd.
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I said Heil Christ.
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You realize that the issue is given away by the Heil, not the Christ.
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So you know, when somebody says, Hey, I called in a while back and you asked me if I was
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in the clan.
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That is a recipe for the call not going well.
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It's not going to go well cause Alex is now like, why did I do that?
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It did feel good for a reason.
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It did feel like Alex was like, well, maybe I need to walk this back.
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I was probably in a bad mood, just calling people, oh, I was telling everybody they were
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in the clan that day.
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And then he's like, ah, I took a picture to say in Heil Christ that you are in the clan.
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So this dude, uh, they have, they have their call and then it ends with him asking Alex
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not to say penis or vagina because his kids listen and it sends Alex into an entire tailspin
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that lasts like 10 minutes about how everyone gets mad at him for covering the contents
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that are in books like gender queer.
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How's he supposed to tell you what's in there if he can't say what's in there, leaving aside
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that he literally never covers any of those books in any detail, other than his own grotesque
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rambling fantasies.
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This rant unfortunately leads to a pretty sad conclusion.
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Oh no.
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And then you call me and I'm not mad at you.
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I'm not mad at you.
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You clan member.
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But you call me and say, my children are listening and I wish you wouldn't.
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This is not a show for children.
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You should listen to the show, take clips you want that you think they can listen to.
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You curate, you decide what they hear, not me.
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I'm talking to adults and I'm not mad at you, but I'm pissed.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is no longer a family show.
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Nope.
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We're going to have to change our logo.
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It says this is a family show on it.
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This is an adult show now.
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This is no longer...
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It's an end of an era.
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I mean, this is...
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You gotta give us warning, right?
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Like isn't that a standards and practices thing?
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We need to negotiate a new contract here.
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Until this exact moment, I was under the impression that this was a family show.
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This was a family show.
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Where he just constantly ranted about incredibly grotesque topics that no children should be
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listening to.
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Unreal.
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But no, it's an adult show now.
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I do appreciate a horrendous parent.
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A horrendous parent.
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A guy who might hail Christ in front of a burning flag.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And like, hey, listen, got to think of my children.
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Don't say penis or vagina.
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Please.
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Hail Christ.
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Think of the kids.
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Oh God, I just flash back to like there was a time when Alex would like get mad when people
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said damn on air.
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Yeah, I know.
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So weird.
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You know what?
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It's really just indicative of how society is just...
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It's like, you know, back in my day, people used to not say a lot of swear words and now
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you can just say them in school to your teacher.
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The other day I heard somebody say, oh, teacher, poop.
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It's true.
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Whatever.
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So Alex is just wholly fucked up by this possible clan member saying, well, not a member, but
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you know what I mean.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not a dues paying member, but a friend of the, yeah.
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This guy saying that he shouldn't say penis or vagina for the kids' sake leads Alex down
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this like, I see all this horrible stuff that I can't replay on my show and all this.
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I can't tell you the devilry that's going on because standards and practices and what
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have you.
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This has been a very whiny show.
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Yes, yes it is.
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And so it leads him into talking about some of his old sources like Ted Gunderson.
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Okay.
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I said I got a lot of phones and I do.
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I just want to take your calls, but man, just look.
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Ted Gunderson, who was the head of the FBI in Southern California, who was the in line
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with the FBI director, he ran Co and Tell Pro.
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He's famous.
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Okay.
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He's dead now.
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Bladder cancer.
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It was 1997 at dinner in Austin, Texas.
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He stayed at my house that night.
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He told me they sell kids in auctions and they traffic them all over the world.
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And I didn't think he was wrong because I knew it was very credible and later it all
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came out he was right.
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And then eight years ago when my uncle was dying of pneumonia before he passed out and
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died five days later, he told me, he grabbed him by the arm and he said, you're right.
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I was there running operations in Central America.
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I was in charge of all the airfields and operations, but I wasn't involved in the actual operations
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on the ground, just the logistics.
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And they were shipping children out of the orphanages in Central and South America.
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Ted Gunderson is a completely not credible person who is mixed up in the satanic panic
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of the eighties and nineties, as well as the McMartin preschool case.
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He's the last person anybody should be listening to.
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That being said, I have to say that Alex's uncle is a complete piece of shit.
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If what Alex is saying is true, then he was actively involved in human trafficking and
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then was complicit in covering it up until the moment of his death, at which point he
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made a confession to Alex, the last person anyone would take seriously if he were actually
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interested in his past crimes being addressed.
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For what it's worth, I don't believe that story at all because the more likely scenario
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is that Alex's uncle didn't say this, but Alex is such a horrible person that he has
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no qualms evoking his dead relative in order to lend some piece of bullshit he's trying
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to sell the audience some credibility.
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It's either that or Alex's uncle is a really, really bad person and Alex is more or less
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running cover for him.
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So it's one of those two.
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Yeah, I'd say both.
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Probably just the lying one.
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I mean, what a... if it is... if that's the one story that's true though, what a piece
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of shit.
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Alex's uncle?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Deathbed confessions don't count.
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Well...
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They don't count.
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Well, the only...
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I don't count them.
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The only exception I'll give is if it's like somebody who had to kill someone in self-defense
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or something and then lied about it or something and then on the deathbed just want to let
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it off their chest.
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Ah, no.
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I see...
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I see it...
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I see it the same way as Emily Dickinson, you know, like, sure, maybe you don't want
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to face responsibility for what you did during your lifetime, but then you have to die believing
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that you never... you know, you never... you don't get the last moment where you go, well,
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I'm free now.
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I'm actually a good person.
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Emily Dickinson doesn't get a moment where everybody goes, oh, you're a good poet.
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No.
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She's in ignominy and will never be remembered.
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Well, I mean, she won't know that she's remembered forever and ever.
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That's what needs to happen.
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No more deathbed confessions.
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I will say that this one is particularly upsetting because the theoretical children that he could
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have saved by not being quiet about this, I mean, that's kind of on him a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Alex's uncle is a monster, really.
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He's a real piece of shit.
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Yeah.
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Through and through.
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Basically.
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So, you know, you get Alex.
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So anyway, is Alex's uncle's material too hot for television?
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If I can't say penis or vagina on the show, can I tell you what my uncle told me?
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Americans are more comfortable with violence than they are with sex.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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But here's where we're going to end our coverage with Alex being a whiny little baby.
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Yeah.
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Well, much like we began.
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You want me to get on air and tell you what he told me, or is it too scary for everybody
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that William Forrest Hammond, super decorated world, you know, Vietnam combat vet, helicopter
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pilot, clandestine operations, you know, secret army officer, Latin America, all of it.
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And he did all this stuff with the government.
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He shipped.
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He told my mother this.
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She doesn't want me to talk about it, but he did what he was told Vietnam.
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He was in Laos and Cambodia.
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He ran operations with opium and he did what he was ordered to do.
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He did it all folks because he thought it was some greater good.
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And then he finally saw kids being loaded on C one thirties, little five year old, six
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year old kids.
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And he said, what is this?
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And they said, shut your mouth.
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And then they tried to kill him and his partner and some of his guys that were under him.
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They tried to kill him all with what?
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And I picked him up when I was like eight years old off a C one thirty in Dallas Air
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Force Base.
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And he came off in a wheelchair on that thing.
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They shot him up and killed his under his aid to camp.
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And that's how real this is.
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And am I not supposed to sit here?
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His aid to tell you what they did and tell you who they are and tell you what they're
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doing.
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How do I do that for you?
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How do I do that?
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I don't know how to thread that needle.
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So fine.
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I won't mention what they do to the kids.
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They'll just keep doing it forever.
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You're right.
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Stations are right.
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Everybody's right.
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We won't talk about it.
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We'll just ignore it.
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Let it keep happening.
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I promise you, we won't talk about it anymore.
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Okay.
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We won't fuck up.
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That's...
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I actually thought of a third option.
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And that is that none of it's true, but Alex's uncle was fucking with him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's also possible.
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Not fucking with him just for fun, but maybe he's just a crazy person.
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I will accept deathbed eternal pranks.
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Those are great.
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You'll never face the consequences for your actions and no one will ever know if it was
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truly a prank or not.
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That's what you gotta have.
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I mean, it's deeply abusive.
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Oh, yeah.
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You won't have to feel the after effects.
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I have to be opposed to this, but I... here's what I will never accept.
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So that was just previously a real conversation?
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Yes.
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Here's what doesn't happen.
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Okay.
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The globalists and the government are trafficking children through this clandestine operation.
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Some guy who knows all about it says, what the fuck is going on here?
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And they're like, shut your mouth.
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And then he's to the point where they shoot him up and kill his aide-de-camp, they don't
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kill him too?
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Come on.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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You don't leave a dangling thread.
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I just want... and I don't want this...
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I'm going to start calling you my aide-de-camp, by the way.
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I really wish you wouldn't.
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I'm getting very uncomfortable, Napoleon, because I'm going to have to start calling
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you Mr. Peabody.
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Sure.
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I don't understand how we can live with this whiny man being so often forced into my face
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as like, look at how brave he is.
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Look at how brave Alex is to stand up to the unrelenting slings and arrows of outrageous
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misfortune that Alex must deal with.
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As we all know, after listening to this episode, the year, the week of our Lord, starting Monday
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the 16th, I'm obviously the people suffering the most are Alex.
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I mean, how could it not be?
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There's no other way to explain it, given how much time he spent on his own show covering
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the number of people who are suffering, of which there is only one.
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I mean, wow.
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I mean, other people are suffering, sort of, but not to the extent that Alex has suffered.
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But they have it coming.
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Alex is the only one who doesn't deserve the suffering.
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It's so wrong, what's happened to him.
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I gotta say, as we have reached the end of this, I don't know if I have done the best
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job of covering his positions and where they are deeply anti-Semitic and deeply Islamophobic,
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because I think a lot of it is very convoluted, especially a lot of the things that he has
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to say at the beginning.
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He does not have any differentiation for anybody who is Muslim.
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They are all unified one thing, and that's complicated.
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Because when you're talking about things as they exist in the real world, it's not as
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easy as that.
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Sure.
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And so trying to apply the real world situation to his use of language is incredibly difficult.
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Yeah, dire.
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And then, at the same time, he has such a difficult time figuring out how to be specific
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about Israeli governmental policies, Israel, Jewish people as a whole, leftist Jews that
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he's really mad at, conservative Jewish people who want to take pictures with him but haven't
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done enough for him lately.
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It's very confusing, and I apologize if there's any points at which I didn't catch certain
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things, because I'm sure there were some very offensive things that didn't even ding on
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our radar.
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But at the end of the day, the impression that I would like to leave people with is
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how offensive it is that this is so much about himself.
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It really is a lot of feelings about himself, his own perceived victimhood, other people's
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plight is only relevant in as much as it somehow intersects with his own feelings.
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And that is pretty gross.
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And I would say that stepping back from the content of his clips, like remembering that
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Alex's intent with these words is to conceal or at the very least obscure what we've seen
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are almost universally inhuman positions.
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So this was the job he did trying to convince you he's not a bad guy.
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That's what he came up with.
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I mean, all I can think of is that Mission Accomplished banner behind Bush.
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I mean, you've got to say it's right on.
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It's right on.
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Wow.
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That's the...
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I'm not a bad guy as I make geopolitical tragedy about myself.
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Yeah, that's him threading the needle.
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That is him being like, ooh, nailed it.
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Got through that one and I didn't offend anybody.
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That's the part I wonder about.
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Does he ever...
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I can't imagine him caring about his show after he ends the show.
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He has to walk away and pretend that it never happened, right?
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I have to imagine, because it would be so difficult to keep doing it if you left and
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you're like, oof, whiffed that one again.
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Imagine waking up the next day and being like, I'm going to try and do it better today.
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No, you can't.
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You can't.
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You cannot.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's dark.
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I'm telling you, bad vibes, man.
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Bad fucking vibes.
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There's the gloominess here in Chicago.
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It's cloudy.
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My wife isn't feeling well.
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Bad vibes.
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Bad vibes.
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Anyway.
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Anyway.
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We come to the end of this and fuck you, Alex, for your behavior and for the sort of thoughts
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of incompatibility of Muslims, the dual loyalty bullshit you're throwing around.
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All this stuff is deeply, deeply troubling.
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This one is a real Gestalt Alex is evil episode.
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You know what?
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It's interesting, though, too.
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The day of, on the seventh, that Saturday, him doing that book infomercial is a new depth
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of cynical and crass and disgusting.
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This isn't.
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This is very, very bad.
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It's a pretty blunt and overt version of stuff that's in his real offensive wheelhouse.
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That it's somehow, in some ways, more difficult.
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Because it's a little realer.
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I'm trying to put it in terms of, like, thinking about baseball and I'm thinking about this
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kind of show and how I would classify it.
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There's a part of me that thinks, like, this is a show that is analogous to him having
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a day where it's like, oh, he went two for four with two doubles.
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This was a heavy hitting day.
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But at the same time, it's so terrible and awful and miserable that I feel like it should
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be more like, oh, he went oh for four with three strikeouts.
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Like that kind of thing.
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But that suggests that it's a low energy.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, it's difficult.
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Yeah, it's hard to explain exactly what you or I even mean by any of this.
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But it's like, that show where he did the infomercial was so shocking that it almost
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seemed surreal.
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Whereas this isn't, there's no surreality to this.
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We know that a lot of these positions are the things that Alex believes, but a lot of
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the times he, like you said, obscures these positions and doesn't say, he doesn't say
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regularly like, fuck you Muslims, you're not compatible with the West.
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Like he will try and couch these positions pretty regularly.
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So it's an extreme version of something that is, like, not as novel, I guess.
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I would say, yeah, no, I'm going to take it back.
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None of this, oh for four, none of this, this is Casey at the bat.
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Every time he is given an opportunity to swing at a pitch, he misses so horrifically, like
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rolls a critical one and just, but just, it's awful.
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It's awful.
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Spins himself into the dirt.
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Like Bugs Bunny.
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And then, let's do it again, and he does the same thing all over again.
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It's amazing.
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So we'll be back to do it all over again for another episode, but until then, Jordan, we
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have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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Yep, we're also on Twitter.
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Wait, I said that already.
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Yes, you did.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DCX Clerks.
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I almost wanted to take on me again.
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You were so close, you were so close.
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I almost did it.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah.
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And now, here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
