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Hey everybody, welcome back and I'll try to update I'm Jordan we're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are down in Georgia Dan or Dan but
Jordan (00:01:10.000)
question for you about today, buddy.
Dan (00:01:13.000)
Well, my bright spot today Jordan is that over this weekend my parents were visiting and so we had a very nice time going around looking at open houses and what have you getting a peek into other people's live homes as
Jordan (00:01:29.000)
everybody knows the most fun behavior
Dan (00:01:31.000)
went to one place and I decided that the residents of that home were I will perverts I will pervert I don't know there were just owls everywhere. There were just owls everyone fucking owl creeps
Jordan (00:01:43.000)
god damn
Dan (00:01:45.000)
worshippers it was a nice time. It's always nice to see the the parents and they were on their way up up north. My dad's got a guy that he knows from college buddy, who's also in the academia. He's going to do a lecture for that. That fella up in Milwaukee. So yeah, it was nice. It was it a good time. Good. Yeah, so between that and I don't know, I'm gonna blame it my my birthday on it that we're putting this episode out.
Jordan (00:02:16.000)
Yeah, that sounds good. That sounds good to reality
Dan (00:02:19.000)
of that isn't quite true. I think I could have forced an episode through okay, despite like my parents being in town, because I did have some time to work on stuff here. But things just didn't come together with some of the materials I was working with. And so I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna blame it on all that stuff.
Jordan (00:02:37.000)
I think that's actually I understand the idea of being like, I could have powered through. But the reality is, you wouldn't have had to try to power through if it weren't for those things. So yes, it is because of those things that you did not have an episode ready. Well, I rest my case, your honor. See,
Dan (00:02:56.000)
now we get to an interesting point where my parents did instill in me this, like, need to like push through just to share, you know, you're feeling sick. To say no, you can say no. Yeah, so it maybe it is their fault in some way that I feel bad that we didn't have enough.
Jordan (00:03:16.000)
Not only is it their fault, we didn't have an episode. You feel bad about not having an episode.
Dan (00:03:23.000)
But it was nice. Always always fun. What are you gonna do
Jordan (00:03:26.000)
parents? Right, so
Dan (00:03:27.000)
what's your bread spot?
Jordan (00:03:29.000)
I have to I have a bright spot and and a deer? My bright spot? Of course, is it your birthday? I'm always happy. And it's nice. It's nice to have a birthday just because I like to think about all the stuff that we've been through. Man. Love you, buddy.
Dan (00:03:48.000)
This is the last birthday where I get to say I'm pushing 40 He's true. Next year, I will be 40
Jordan (00:03:53.000)
Oh man, I have it's hard to believe you're about to be 40 Yeah,
Dan (00:03:57.000)
you know, this is 40 Thank God, that movie came out. tweakers make it
Jordan (00:04:02.000)
so he can just move on after somebody says this is 40 Yeah.
Dan (00:04:06.000)
No, you know, I was I was reflecting on that a little bit too. While we were going to like look at open houses. Because, you know, six years ago or, you know, whatever, when we started this show, the prospect of that even being something you would do not as a joke. Yeah, like, is a bit obviously I'm not necessarily in a position where it'd be like, the easiest thing in the world to like, buy a house. Sure. But like, it's not as much of a joke as it would have been years back. Yeah. And you know, that gives you an opportunity to reflect on on that like this time and the it's it's amazing. I'm so I'm very grateful. Yeah,
Jordan (00:04:45.000)
that distance, you know, when we started this, I was in my 20s buddy. I was in my 20s Crazy late 20s, late 20s 29.9 and 1129 and Almost 30 And then my gear of course, is cake. The band the band cake. Oh wow. My wife started using Satan as my moto as her alarm clock. Yeah, you mentioned this I ate it's the devil is the devil. Everybody likes cake. I even like cake for the simple reason that the words are slow. The lyrics are enunciated clearly every song is a perfect singalong font. And if that happens in the morning, the rest of my day is filled with occasionally just nonstops eight in his mind, it makes me so mad drives me insane.
Dan (00:05:42.000)
She needs to switch it up.
Jordan (00:05:43.000)
She needs to switch it up
Dan (00:05:44.000)
to like, good commissioning a symphony and no good way to wake up. To be in Austria Nova.
Jordan (00:05:53.000)
It's a whole day it's a whole day.
Dan (00:05:56.000)
What if she chose cake song you don't like?
Jordan (00:05:59.000)
Are their cake songs you don't like plenty?
Dan (00:06:04.000)
Not this. I mean most of the singles are alright, no plays. Yeah, there's some album cuts.
Jordan (00:06:08.000)
For sure. Not very good. Yeah, maybe maybe that would solve the problem or go
Dan (00:06:13.000)
with like live. Band live. Okay. Yeah. Like run to the water. Wake up to that. It's triumphant. It'll get you out of bed and you don't have to worry about not liking it because you probably don't like it anyway,
Jordan (00:06:25.000)
that's not my thing is you start with a choir to the world. Start with a quiet time that builds up so your brain hears it before you fully wake up. Then about a minute or two in the song you get something good. That's why I love using Broken Social scene's Pacific theme to wake up. Okay, just real good. Yeah,
Dan (00:06:45.000)
go with lives. They love fairpoint Lightning Crashes. Mellow at the beginning. I was trying to think of all their lives gonna say
Jordan (00:06:56.000)
you're just going through live songs and I wasn't even sure if they were the ones who did Lightning Crashes. Yeah.
Dan (00:07:01.000)
No, no, that was
Jordan (00:07:06.000)
it that was a hit huge hit and weird times the past
Dan (00:07:10.000)
song of the summer like foreign country
Jordan (00:07:13.000)
the past is.
Dan (00:07:16.000)
So Jordan today. So I was I was very much intending to get a modern day episode together. And I spent a fair amount of time going down that road. But I ran into an issue where I was just like, this isn't an episode. I was just like, I don't know. And so I threw out what I had planned. And I'm like, It's my birthday weekend. I don't give a fuck and stay in the past. So he's gonna do a 2004 episode. And that is what we're doing. Okay. Are we talking about February 9 2004? All right. Unfortunately, it's not a pleasant time. Oh, great. This is very racist. Right? This is an incredibly racist episode. So happy birthday to
Jordan (00:07:55.000)
say, Dan,
Dan (00:07:56.000)
we'll get down to business 40 Am I right? Yeah. Before we get down to business on all of this though, let's say hello to some new wolves. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, JJ you kick like a mule and bite like a crocodile from om. Thank you so much. You're now Paul Zwaan.
Alex Jones (00:08:11.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:08:12.000)
Thank you very much.
Dan (00:08:13.000)
Next Happy birthday wish to Jacob, thank you so much. You are now Posey Wong,
Alex Jones (00:08:17.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:08:18.000)
Thank you very much.
Dan (00:08:19.000)
Next, Matt in Ottawa says Nazi truckers fuck off. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk, thank
Jordan (00:08:25.000)
you very much.
Dan (00:08:27.000)
Next, Bobby Barnes thank you so much. babystar.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank
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you very much.
Dan (00:08:33.000)
Next, Jake, this sneaky snake. Thank you so much. You're now ballsy want?
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I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:08:39.000)
Thank you very much.
Dan (00:08:40.000)
And I was a hard man till one night Bangkok. They forgot the one night in Bangkok. Right. But anyway, you're still a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:08:48.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Dan (00:08:49.000)
Thank you very much. oriented city, but that's it. Don't know. Oh, no
Jordan (00:08:53.000)
kidding. Oh, sure. We're having a day you were brand new happens when we record in the mornings? Yep.
Dan (00:09:01.000)
It's tough. So February 9 2004. All right, this I don't know what I was expecting. Honestly.
Jordan (00:09:11.000)
Pre Valentine's Day. You know, telling people about ways to celebrate their significant others.
Dan (00:09:18.000)
You know what it is weird. As I was listening to this, it did dawn on me that this is before Valentine's Day. I think it was just because I was trying to find anything to think of other than that's what came to my mind. Yeah. This is how Alex feels love, I guess. I
Jordan (00:09:33.000)
mean, if you're trying to avoid racism, we can't bring up Black History Month now can wait
Dan (00:09:38.000)
Nope. Nope. So Alex has a string at this period of time 2004 At the beginning of it. He's talking constantly to these border militia folks. And so he has another one of these fellows coming on.
Alex Jones (00:09:53.000)
right we've got Casey nother caught the owner of the ranch in southern Arizona. Who has been in the middle of multiple attacks by Mexican trips that have been written up in the Associated Press, they have apprehended a lot of illegal aliens on their property. He was arrested by the FBI. And he's now been released. They tried to force him to sign confessions. Just wait until you hear the details of this in the middle of the next hour. We've also got a bunch of other guests who are lining up
Dan (00:10:23.000)
not just Paul Joseph Watson. None of that stuff is accurate. I was gonna say except that he owns a ranch. Yeah. And he doesn't for long. So, Casey, now they're caught is not the victim that Alex is making them out to be. He's a felon and dangerous border vigilante who has on multiple occasions detained people illegally. You can't do that. In one instance, it was two high school students who are going home from a football game. In the most recent case, he illegally detained two Salvadorian immigrants who he assaulted, they successfully sued him and were awarded his ranch in lieu of a monetary payment. Nice. We talked about that case recently, because another guy from the organization Casey is a part of was a guest. That was a guy named Jack foot from the group ranch rescue. Right?
Jordan (00:11:07.000)
I recall because we made Foot Clan joke. That's correct. Yes. And an
Dan (00:11:11.000)
upsetting turn of events. Casey went missing on September 1 2017, and hasn't been seen. So I'm sure he had left his vehicle and belongings, including his diabetes medication behind so this doesn't look like a good situation. I have no idea what's going on there, like in the present day presentation. But whatever the case is, it doesn't change that in 2004. Casey was a dangerous armed felon who believed that he could take the law into his own hands to dispense vigilante justice against immigrants, and high school students who probably thought were immigrants.
Jordan (00:11:43.000)
I feel like if you quote illegally detain high school students, you have kidnapped. You are a kidnapper. At that point.
Dan (00:11:50.000)
It is weird. I wasn't able to find like, specific, like a full explanation of what went down. Yeah, yeah. Which leads me to believe that he didn't do time for it. Right. But,
Jordan (00:12:04.000)
boy, I mean, of all the things to do time for that we have so many people in prison for marijuana possession, and this guy who kidnaps people regularly
Dan (00:12:16.000)
misunderstand, that's not a misunderstanding. No, that's not how it works shouldn't be. So we got some headlines. Sure. Sure, it was hot in 2004. A lot of stuff going on. Okay.
Alex Jones (00:12:27.000)
In the meantime, you knew it would come to the United States, a restriction on how many children you can have. The government has been saying they want to do it for a while. Of course, you're a Third World internal population, you'll you'll be given waivers but for everybody else, there'll be restrictions. We'll be getting into that. Also, you may have heard of this US Soccer Team. Here's who saw my chance in Mexico. During the Star Spangled Banner. I don't want to point out people that Bush wants to allow to the country, the people he wants to legalize the people whose government says the Southwest belongs to them. Chanting and Shamu sama sama. So the radical Mexicans or somebody close together in their American national sovereignty.
Dan (00:13:17.000)
A little bit of a seat. All right. Okay. We'll talk about that. thing that's apparently trying to restrict white children or limits on how many white babies can
Jordan (00:13:28.000)
be bought the replacement of.
Dan (00:13:31.000)
We'll get to that a little bit later. But for now, about the soccer so too, I need to know more about this. So this was after the US team beat Canada in a 1500 seat arena. I can find no indication of how many people were actually chanting Osama, but I suspect it was kind of a smallish group. And that's because it happened again at the US haze. Next match. Okay, that was according to reporting at that time. There were a couple of dozen fans that were chanting Osama at the US team after they lost to Mexico. That was the next match that happens like in a few days. Sure. Sure, sure. Most of the rest of the audience was just booing the US team since the US team had beat Mexico in the 2002. World Cup and feelings were a bit raw, right? Chanting Osama is a bit tasteless, but it's not outside the realm of things that people might do at a soccer match. Yeah, like people fight pretty regularly. I mean, a little while.
Jordan (00:14:25.000)
Let's take it quite seriously, ball is the game. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Plus, it
Dan (00:14:30.000)
was a few dozen people at that game that was at the stadium that's supposed to fit 55,000 people, but attendance estimates were at 60,000. So like it was overfilled to capacity, right? It was a couple dozen out of 60,000
Jordan (00:14:45.000)
people a couple of dozen started chanting Osama it's not maybe the biggest deal in the world and everybody around them was kinda like I am confused. Are you you're referencing Bin Laden, right? There's a better chance here
Dan (00:14:58.000)
probably. Yeah. So these people Gotta be an assholes. But I don't think it's indicative of the whole crowd, nor of Mexican people as a group, like Alex seems to think Alex is making that leap because his editorial position is to use whatever imagery he can to demonize immigrants, particularly those entering from the southern border. And this allows him to tie all Mexican folk to Osama bin Laden. Yeah. What
Jordan (00:15:21.000)
I've thought, here's my pitch, all right after we killed him. Now, we have to replace us a chance with Osama chance because we want, right. I feel like that's the way Yeah,
Unknown Speaker (00:15:34.000)
I don't know. I mean, we took
Jordan (00:15:35.000)
his it's like Xiang sung rules. All right. We took his soul after we defeated him,
Dan (00:15:40.000)
right. And I get the theme of what you're saying. Like, I think after the Civil War, people didn't check confederate. That's a good point. I think that your thinking is flawed. I could be. So I don't know if people can hear beeping in the background. But if they can't, it's because there's some construction outside. So enjoy that little bit of flavor of life, as they say. You could probably get the vibe from that clip that we might be in for some anti Mexico business. Yeah. And boy, oh, wait, this is wild.
Alex Jones (00:16:15.000)
Just think about this. Bush supports total blanket amnesty, despite the fact that it's unconstitutional that the majority of voters are against it. And more supports a country, a people who a large portion of them and the government itself say openly that they are going to kill all the white people kill us. They won't even allow a fourth of July parade in San Diego or LA we got video of them beating Hispanics, Blacks, Whites veterans, with two by fours the police standby on it happened. This has been going on three separate times in the last six years. We have video of it. But again, it's not a national news story. You imagine a group of white people went to a Mexican get together. I can read you a story about two by fours. You never hear the end of it. But it's okay when they do it. I'm sick of Mexican food restaurants with with images of Aztecs cutting the white people hearts out. I'm sick of it.
Dan (00:17:17.000)
That's got to be tough. Is that a thing? I feel bad for him to go into all these Mexican food restaurants where he's bombarded with pictures of Aztecs killing white people. It's
Jordan (00:17:26.000)
a very strange thing. It is yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess that's part live part of where football came from. Right. You know, that's text chopped off the heads and they kicked it. Isn't that the story?
Dan (00:17:36.000)
I'm not No, I'm not sure. You mean soccer? Yeah, yeah. Now we're in America. Sorry. Hey,
Jordan (00:17:42.000)
man made for referencing. You know, I have whatever um, I don't know I call it American football.
Dan (00:17:48.000)
Not sure I pay enough attention to decor. Nor would I necessarily feel all that sensitive about it. But I guess Alex is a whiny little teddy baby,
Jordan (00:17:59.000)
I just find it strange that you would decorate a restaurant with so many beheadings,
Dan (00:18:04.000)
right and like arrows pointing to the victims. White person, white person
Jordan (00:18:08.000)
for sure. Straight up I know, they were in Mexico for a while. So they had a tan. So maybe you didn't know they were white. But guess what? Totally white
Dan (00:18:16.000)
classic Alex Jones meaningless complaints. So Bush was absolutely not in favor of blanket amnesty and nothing he ever did well in office came close to such a policy. white nationalists call any kind of making immigration or pleading refugee status the same as blanket amnesty, because in reality, they want no non white immigration. Alex is essentially on the same page as that. But his public brand doesn't really allow him to argue that way. So this is what you get. Neither Mexico's government nor a majority of their population wants to kill white people. I have not seen any of this alleged footage of the Fourth of July parades being attacked. But if this is a real thing, I would assume that it's wildly out of context. And the violence is about something else entirely different than Mexican people being mad at us patriotism. The purpose of this storyline is to ram into the audience's head that non whites are committing violent crimes against white people. And because they're not white, the media covers it up. This is literally the same rhetoric that the Council of conservative citizens promoted which Dylann Roof cited as the inspiration for his mass murder at Black church. Alex is swimming in those exact same waters here. There's there's no distinguishing between them. They're the same thing.
Jordan (00:19:25.000)
Yeah, I mean, of all of all the things that are theoretically covered up at best I would say that Trump's Muslim ban is about as close to people not talking about it because after January 6 people who were like there's a bigger problem but the fact that at the beginning it was about a it was a blanket racist ban of non white people coming into the into the country. They got what they fucking wanted, even though it was unconstitutional. You know, it was that's what they've wanted the entire time a blanket ban. And Trump did that. And now we're just like, you know,
Dan (00:20:05.000)
but it didn't stand? No. Well, I mean, he
Jordan (00:20:07.000)
blamed he bet a lot of it did. It didn't all stand because it was obviously racist. Yeah. But you know, he was still allowed to ban a bunch of?
Dan (00:20:16.000)
Well, I think I think that, you know, limiting immigration from some countries may be less racist than what was intended, right. I'm not saying it's, you know, the way things went was cool, or anything, right. But it didn't it didn't. It didn't stand in its original form, where the intent was much clearer. Totally, you know what I mean? Totally. But yeah, yeah, you make a fair point. Yeah. So Alex is mad at matcha because he's complaining about, about Mexican related stuff. Sure. And then Alex's wife, it turns out as trilingual
Alex Jones (00:20:55.000)
student group stands by Rican keister plan, Metro won't is a valid document calling for recapture of Southwest Latino student group that drew attention during the California gubernatorial campaign of Cruz Bustamante says it will not disavow a founding document outlining the aim of recapturing the southwestern United States for Mexico. You know, some of their websites they got images of dead white people and how they're going to kill us and the spawning do an allegation of racism and allegation. Members of Metro chapter at the University of California, Los Angeles showed up in force and an undergraduate student government meeting Tuesday to protest the campus student paper. The UCLA reported the GOP student group, UCLA, Marylyn, Republicans have challenged Macha and announced a founding document l plan the Oslon, which they assert promotes violence and damages the organization's reputation as community servants. The text calls for the return of the US southwest of Mexico, three members said they do not follow the particular ideology. That's a total lie. My wife speaks French, Spanish, Italian. And just a couple weeks ago, we were in a convenience store. And there's two Mexicans one at the counter one buy in something one run the counter and it's our speaking in Spanish and yeah, I don't like speaking English. I don't like that. You know that dumb language? I don't like whites. There's they're laughing at us understanding what my wife I mean, you know, oh, but that's cute and acceptable and funny. It's real funny. So sick fuck so incredibly, completely out of control. And disgusting.
Dan (00:22:37.000)
As is the case with pretty much all of Alex's stories. I don't believe this happened. Nope. But if it did, I still struggle to see how it's a meaningful anecdote to inject here. Alex is trying to assert that meta Hispanic Student Organization follows the ideology of this Aztlan document which seeks to recapture the southwest. How does him and his wife overhearing a guy say that he doesn't like English and white people helped make that point? It doesn't. But it probably feels like it does to the audience. Because Alex's complaint about meta isn't the point. There's something behind that story. That is the more important message Alex is trying to get to the audience, which is that Mexican people and non whites in general are a dangerous threat to you. Alex doesn't feel the need to defend his assertion that this group that follows the Aslan plan, that's just taken as proven because he said it. When Alex adds the anecdote about his wife at the convenience store, what he's doing is seeking to reinforce the feeling that Mexican people are a threat to you and secretly hate you, when they think you can't understand what they're saying. They speak of their hate of white people in Spanish. When you look at it through this lens, and with this understanding, it makes total sense why this is the story Alex's mind goes to when he's trying to make his point here. It makes no sense if it's an attempt to prove his meta point, but it's exactly what you do if you're trying to heighten the racist fears that you're trying to stoke this Aztlan document. It was drafted by the first nationals Chicano youth liberation conference in 1969. And there's a fair amount of language in it that does encourage Chicano nationalism and reclaiming the land of their forefathers. Groups like Metro don't express Lee follow this document, though. The A and matcha does stand for asked lamb but that's not weird since it's a fabled ancestral homeland of Aztec people. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know. It's a little bit of an edge case, I think.
Jordan (00:24:26.000)
Yeah. I mean, ultimately, his is his point of bringing up these two unrelated examples is to remind you that it's all Mexican people, right? You know, it doesn't matter if they're related because they're all talking to each other
Dan (00:24:43.000)
totally could just be at a convenience store just a customer and the person there Furthermore,
Jordan (00:24:47.000)
he does not know if they are Mexican. If they are just speaking Spanish they could belong to most of the world
Dan (00:24:54.000)
but you don't know that because his wife might overheard them say, haha, we are Mexican. That makes sense like He would be. There's so many details that he could add. Just by making more stuff up.
Jordan (00:25:06.000)
I don't like it. I don't like it also,
Dan (00:25:09.000)
like just on a really basic level. What an awful conversation for two people to have, like an awful like morally awful just know. Why would you have that conversation doing? Hi, I would like to pay for my gummy bears. Hey, you know what? I hate English. Oh man,
Jordan (00:25:26.000)
totally. I also hate the whites.
Dan (00:25:31.000)
I'm silly. I don't think it happened. Yeah. Doubtful. So white people though. Sure. Fuckin under attack, man. I doubt it's a disaster.
Alex Jones (00:25:39.000)
Now, continuing with the anti white crusade going on worldwide, white people didn't invent slavery. Slavery was mastered. Thank you. Invented by the Egyptians, the Babylonians and some forms of it. Were going on in Asia, some of the archaeological record shows even earlier than slavery was developed in the Mediterranean region. So
Jordan (00:26:07.000)
what? So why people are better because we didn't do it first. So it's okay that we did it. First off, it's okay. Because everybody's doing it. And second, it's, we're we are the ones who stopped it to like, Ah, God stopped Egypt's slavery program. I don't get white people stopped America slavery.
Dan (00:26:30.000)
I don't get the rebuttal to like our country has a like a shame. stain, let's say yeah. Because of our history of, of slavery and the racist systems that were enacted in the aftermath of slavery, the way that people were kept out of their ability to participate in the economy were attacked. Redlining, wealth, worldly, completely eliminated. And those ripples still exist on till the present day, for sure. I don't understand how a rebuttal to something like that is we didn't come up with it. It wasn't
Jordan (00:27:04.000)
I didn't start it doesn't mean anything. No, I didn't start it. It was just going along. Other
Dan (00:27:10.000)
countries do have other relationships historically with slavery, and that is for them to deal with as well. Yeah. And some countries have some countries have had sort of a reckoning with that. And I think it's probably better for it. One of the reasons I think our country has such a difficulty with that history is that we're, you know, a lot of times have been in pretty serious denial about it. I think it hinders the ability to move into the future better.
Jordan (00:27:42.000)
Yeah. I mean, the the fundamental colonialism, the colonialist mindset behind the, the entirety of, of all of that has not at all gone away. Just even considering the shift that American groups get up to in Dragon Africa, trying to colonialists Africa, with their religion and with their culture and all of that shit. It's, it's, and also, you know, we didn't invent colonialism, so it's okay. It's fine. What? It's cool. Totally cool. Hey, oh, Shi Huang. DS fault, really? When a unified China Ha ha, that's colonialism right there.
Dan (00:28:20.000)
Well, sure. I killed that guy didn't invent murder. No,
Jordan (00:28:23.000)
I did. What? So it's okay.
Dan (00:28:26.000)
Such a weird, such a weird way to think. Yeah. So Alex does bring up Africa now does get into some white people being under attack and Africa. And this is a little bit gross. He talks about some sexual assault, rape type stuff in, in Africa. And I wouldn't play this necessarily. But there's a there's a point to it.
Alex Jones (00:28:50.000)
And then we have these articles here. And boy, folks, I mean, to look at what's happening in Africa to whites is just horrible. Right? Gangs target white, racial violence surges in Zimbabwe. I love how Africa said Be nice, be liberal, you know, don't be domineering and controlling. And until whites are like, Okay, we will and I'm not defending colonialism or what it did. But it's, it was literally hired to what the Africans are now doing to each other, and wild. So they said here, you take the machine guns will be nice and well, the fun has just begun.
Dan (00:29:28.000)
So to be entirely clear, upfront, there was some and has been some fairly reliable reporting that there were gangs in Zimbabwe that were using threats of rape as a tool in robberies, and in some cases following through with it. It is claimed by outlets like World Net Daily that these attacks were only targeted at whites, but I don't think that there's a good reason to trust them. And it's unclear to me if this was actually the case. These people who are committing these acts are horrible and should face the full punishment available under the law. Full stop. Yeah. What I want to talk about however, is the way that Alex's using this story to claim the things were better back when Zimbabwe was Rhodesia. Back when the country was under a brutal apartheid system. This is not a position that takes the problem that he's pretending to cover seriously. Returning to a genocidal regime is not the solution to crime unless you really believe that the apartheid state and all its human rights abuses were for the greater good. In order for Alex to really believe what he's saying he needs to think that the black population of Rhodesia needed to be kept in line by what amounted to a very severe police state, which he shouldn't have been based on every other thing he claims to believe he shouldn't support that
Jordan (00:30:40.000)
if I thought he could read it that would make me believe that a white man's burden is his Bible. Like oh, Kipling knew exactly what was right. You know, like, yeah, it's fucked the fuckup. It's it. I mean, it, it ultimately comes back to that colonialist mindset of these people need to be civilized. Yeah. The way that I am. Well,
Dan (00:31:04.000)
I actually think that it's slightly different. It's partially that but also, I think, for Alex, there might even be an element of the civilizing is not possible. So repression must be sure sure. Must be the system that's in place,
Jordan (00:31:21.000)
right. It's the slave Bible. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's great. It's good stuff in America is great. It's not surprising. Oh, sama. Oh, I'm sorry. Was that not good?
Dan (00:31:34.000)
Luck, it was just one post.
Jordan (00:31:39.000)
There are 60,000 people in this race.
Dan (00:31:45.000)
I mean, it's not surprising, and as much as we've heard stuff like that from Alex before, but like, it's still surprising. It's shocking to hear Anytime he's like, Well, things were better under apartheid.
Jordan (00:31:56.000)
I mean, I, I just I if you if, if you can't understand apartheid equals bad, well, and we're out
Dan (00:32:05.000)
but like, and if you don't understand the acts that were being carried out, under that system,
Jordan (00:32:11.000)
willfully deny the acts that were being carried out under that system. It's Holocaust denier style. Oh, people were exaggerating. It was actually really great for 99% of the whites.
Dan (00:32:24.000)
Yeah, yeah. So there's more trouble in countries with the history of apartheid.
Alex Jones (00:32:33.000)
White slaughter in South Africa, plans made to conduct campaign of genocide after Mandela's death. While former South African President Nelson Mandela at five scoffs at rumors of his ill health plans are being made by the nation's Communist Party to slaughter all whites in the country upon his death. Well, it's already happening. Whoa.
Jordan (00:32:55.000)
Sure to hear about that. I did not I didn't know that all whites were
Dan (00:32:58.000)
slaughtered. Yeah. You may or may not be surprised to hear this but the only place I could find a link to this article that Alex is reporting on was on Stormfront the neo Nazi white supremacist message board would have guessed it's originally from WorldNetDaily. But they don't have it up anymore because it's intensely stupid shit. As the story goes, a ton of very not made up. Anonymous sources told WorldNetDaily that there was a plan for a kill off of all the white people in South Africa after Mandela died. It seems that Mandela being alive was the only thing that was keeping everything together. And when he was gone, it was genocide. That dumb peacenik. Incidentally, Mandela didn't die until 2013. And guess what? When he was in the hospital nearing the end of his life, this exact storyline started flying around online again, what a shock that black South Africans were going to kill all the white people after Mandela died. Weirdly or not weirdly at all the comments on Stormfront about this clearly made up article meant to inflame racists, I have a lot of thematic parallels to Alex's rhetoric, a lot of talk about how the media would cover up the slaughter because it was against white people. Kind of makes me think how close Alex in Stormfront really
Jordan (00:34:05.000)
are so so. So close. Yeah, so close.
Dan (00:34:08.000)
Very a lot of you know, you could jump from one to the other fairly easily, almost like
Jordan (00:34:13.000)
they're an extreme version that he sort of like allows to be filtered through his slightly less extreme appearance.
Dan (00:34:22.000)
Yeah, almost like they don't have a business to protect. Yeah. Strange. Strange. So Alex takes a number of calls. He's got that weird border vigilante who's coming on and Paul Joseph Watson's gonna show up. But I mean, who cares about Paul, but you take some calls. And this color is an interesting question, especially considering on a reason 2004 Episode we heard at caller asked Alex what the military industrial complex was right? And he whiffed unable to understand Yeah, yeah. And so here, someone asks, What's the deal with the military industrial complex? tacking the white man?
Alex Jones (00:34:59.000)
Yeah, sure. All right, let's go to your calls Brock in Canada. Welcome.
Caller 4 (758) (00:35:03.000)
Hello, Alex. I'm doing good. Thanks. I was gonna ask you, if you could encapsulate them explain the military industrial complex and how it would relate to the banksters. And these creeps that are targeting the white man. And you know how it ties in and just what the grand scheme of things is.
Alex Jones (00:35:26.000)
Okay, let me answer that question. In a nutshell.
Dan (00:35:29.000)
Let's get to the nutshell. I am interested in the nutshell. So we've got banksters and creeps attacking the white man Sure, and a connection to the military industrial complex, in a nutshell for our
Jordan (00:35:39.000)
banksters and creeps in the military industrial complex, or are they just allies in the attack against the white man?
Dan (00:35:45.000)
I think they're on the side. I'm not sure. Okay, here's the nutshell. All right.
Alex Jones (00:35:49.000)
Okay, let me answer that question. In a nutshell. The globalist aren't just targeting the white man. They're targeting humanity. The Romans 2500 years ago, learned how to put the Greeks in one district, the Romans in another
Jordan (00:36:13.000)
we didn't invent segregation, or
Alex Jones (00:36:16.000)
they learned how to they'd have a Jewish quarter, and they would foster the groups hating each other and fighting with each other. The globalist will play off Catholic against Protestant Protestant against Catholic in Northern Ireland, and they will carry out terror on both sides. They've been caught doing it, Sheldon the British can come in and militarize and take control. In Africa, the UN will play one black prime off against another or more ideally, they will play blacks off against whites whites off against Blanche.
Dan (00:36:49.000)
This is a bad answer to the question that was asked and a bad answer in general, it's completely dishonest in terms of Alex's true positions, and it's just factually inaccurate. The caller was asking about the military industrial complex and the banks not about some city planning from ancient Rome. This caller wants Alex to talk about how the Jews are the ones who are behind the New World Order and the attack on whites. It's pretty obvious thank
Jordan (00:37:11.000)
stir creeps and creeps. Yeah, I
Dan (00:37:14.000)
suspect even Alex gets that hence the dancing around the different topic and hoping that this distraction works. And it does he doesn't go back to the caller at all. It just moves along nice to the other issues. Those examples he's listing aren't cases of globalists playing one side off against the other. There are cases where there were real atrocities carried out by two groups of people who had deep disagreements with each other, and their cases where many people in the rest of the world looked on and failed to act in a way that would have helped avoid the severest outcomes. Alex doesn't care about the idea of globalist playing groups off against each other. You can tell that because the util that's the case because the only time he ever talks about how the globalists are playing white people and black people against each other is when he's deep into racist territory and wants to reassure himself that his positions aren't comically racist. Yeah. Alex is sincerely reporting on this episode that black people in South Africa have a plan to kill all the white people when Mandela dies. And he's yearning for the better years when Zimbabwe was under an apartheid government ruled by the 3% of the population that was white. He doesn't give a fuck about two sides being played off against each other. It's delusional.
Jordan (00:38:19.000)
Yeah, I mean, especially since we return once more to the globalists are doing it. Now, obviously, if I were in control, I would do the exact same thing. That's the way you get all that power. You know, it makes perfect sense that they would do that. Right. It doesn't make perfect sense that they would do that because they don't exist when you're the only person who does that.
Dan (00:38:37.000)
When I was 14, I came up with a pot to rule the world. Yeah, exactly. You might as well have said that based on comic books and skimming history. But here's
Jordan (00:38:45.000)
what I'll do. I'll play two groups off of each other. Okay, good work.
Dan (00:38:50.000)
And now I have proven that everyone is doing that. Yeah. So a caller calls in and asks this is this is interesting, because we know that Alex sells gold. And he's a big fan of selling gold. He sells gold. It is the ultimate store of value. It is where the globalist can't touch you, Jared, you get that gold and you're good,
Jordan (00:39:07.000)
but currencies fail, but gold never fails. Right?
Dan (00:39:11.000)
So a caller calls in and asks about how there have been gold price fixing scheme. Here's Alex's. Okay.
Caller 1 (799) (00:39:20.000)
I see. Also on the GCN. Network, they were talking about gold and stuff. However, I'm starting to do research on it. And even that's not exactly safe, because it's like there was a report about about there was a gold price fixing scheme by the JP Morgan group. And so it's like, and so it's like even gold is not safe any more which is ABS kind of scary.
Alex Jones (00:39:52.000)
Yeah, let me answer your question. Thanks for the call. Nothing safe, you know, a house it could get burned down. Why should you ever have killed? Why can you go on living? You can die in a car wreck tomorrow.
Jordan (00:40:06.000)
Yeah. We are getting some all time classic rebuttals here. These are the most nonsensical responses I think I could think of.
Dan (00:40:18.000)
But it's because there isn't an answer. No, yeah. No, it's because this undercuts most of the narratives that he pitches about gold. It's like, well, if the prices can be manipulated and all that, how is this any different than, like a fiat currency? Yeah, complain about all the time. Hey, why live? That's you might die.
Jordan (00:40:39.000)
So funny. That's so funny. Nothing is safe. Yeah. I need I honestly like that answer more than any answer he's given about anything I wish he should have. He should have just put a period on that and then moved on to the next question.
Dan (00:40:56.000)
Yeah. Some ways he did. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So we get some more calls. And this person is calling in asking you about the two child limit.
Jordan (00:41:06.000)
Sure. Sure. The one that exists. Yes, yes, definitely.
Alex Jones (00:41:10.000)
Let's talk to Stacy in Delaware. Stacey, go ahead.
Caller 2 (799) (00:41:14.000)
Hi, Alex, how are you? Good. I had a question about the bill that you were talking about. Trying to control the amount of children that people are able to have?
Alex Jones (00:41:26.000)
Yeah, that's Washington State.
Caller 2 (799) (00:41:28.000)
Okay. What are they proposing to do after these people have two children? Are they going to sterilize them or make them take a pill or something? I mean, what are they what are they proposing?
Alex Jones (00:41:40.000)
Well, Washington state is at the forefront of eugenics. over 400 plus 1000 women, it's between 400 to 500,000. No one's sure were sterilized from the 1930s up until 1985. And we've had some of these woman on it's it's been in the news. Normally, if you were a single parent, mother, black, white, it didn't matter. And your child made under a bee plush. They would send CPS to your house, they would grab you sure if they would kidnap your daughter, I would take her and have medical students cut her uterus out. Now, folks, if you don't believe me, you just have been hiding under a rock. This is mainstream.
Jordan (00:42:20.000)
Well, nothing is safe.
Dan (00:42:24.000)
Just to let you know, it took forever to track down this article because much like a ton of the stupid shit that they've published over here over the years. The article about this two child limit? Yeah, it's not on World Net Daily anymore. Yeah, that's where it comes from
Jordan (00:42:38.000)
a great place that embarrassingly deletes all of its articles from the past. Yeah.
Dan (00:42:42.000)
When it's like, oh, this would be really exciting to have reported, yeah, probably the future is going to be mean to us on this one. So I found someone reposting the text of this article on a Catholic message board, but mysteriously, it doesn't really exist anywhere else. There's no bill number listed in the article and the person they said sponsored it. Marilyn Chase doesn't have a bill that necessarily fits that description in her resume. In the 2003 2004, Washington house session, she sponsored 428 bills, and I looked through all of them and what do you know that's not there. And it would be kind of hilarious if it were, she's out here, pushing bills about endorsing Dungeness crab fishing and some real Washington specific stuff. And then the next day she decides it's time to limit the number of children people can have. It's weird. Anyway, after way too long of looking through bills about other things like ferry worker collective bargaining rights, I found the bill that they're talking about. It's titled, quote, promoting population sustainability, and it's HB 3111 from the 2003 2004 legislative session. It was introduced on January 28, and was dead on arrival and the GOP stalled permanently in the health care subcommittee. It this was a proposed amendment to our CW 43.7 0.130, which is a section of the Washington legal code that lays out the responsibilities of the Secretary of Health. This bill would have added a 12 item to the list that was, quote, develop and distribute a pamphlet or other educational material that emphasizes the benefits and importance of couples limiting themselves to two or fewer children to promote population sustainability. Alex is doing a hell of a job sensationalizing this proposed initiative that would have no enforcement mechanism at all and was dead in committee by the time he's on air. Wow, very, very proud of him. Wow. Yeah. I mean,
Jordan (00:44:32.000)
I you know, there's a part of me that says that stupid, and then there's a part of me that says, what we should do what we should have done so long ago, is overreact insanely to even the slightest bit of thing. You know, because if you hear Alex Jones do this just on the like, maybe give a pamphlet to somebody? What what next step are you ever going to take you know what I'm saying?
Dan (00:44:59.000)
Drew, this is what you're saying. And I think there's something to that. Yeah, I think I think that people overreacting. On the other side of things, yeah. Might balance the equation, but it would be equally bullshit.
Jordan (00:45:14.000)
Yeah. No, it would be equally bullshit. But the current situation where they overreact and then the other side backs down and goes, I'm so sorry. Yeah, that one's not working, either.
Dan (00:45:24.000)
You're right. All right. I'm not sure that the solution is fire with fire. No, I mean, I'm not saying that. But But you are right. It is an unsustainable status quo.
Jordan (00:45:36.000)
Let's give them whatever they want. Because they whine a lot. Now, in
Dan (00:45:38.000)
this specific case, though, I kind of do think that this proposed amendment was stupid. Yeah, but the only reason I think it's stupid is because if you look at the other 11 items on the secretary of Health's responsibilities exist in the Washington legal code. They're pretty broad things. This is way too specific to be something that's in there. Yeah, it doesn't fit with the like, I don't think it's necessarily a horrible thing to like, have as like, a an idea, like, hey, you know, maybe, I don't actually know, maybe it's not, I don't know, it
Jordan (00:46:15.000)
seems like that's more in the employee handbook than it is in the law. You know, like, right. Here's what we do. When you go to work. Sometimes you make a pamphlet, like, that's fine. I totally get that. I wouldn't codify into law. You must pamphlet.
Dan (00:46:29.000)
Yeah. Well, but yeah, develop and distribute. Yeah. pamphlet.
Jordan (00:46:35.000)
I it's just a job. I don't
Dan (00:46:37.000)
fully know if it actually is better for everybody. If you have two or fewer kids. I'm not sure. Yeah. I haven't done the research on that. So I can't speak to it now.
Jordan (00:46:48.000)
But China did it for a long time. And then they stopped. I don't know what that was one. Yeah,
Dan (00:46:53.000)
this is double. Yeah. Well, I
Jordan (00:46:55.000)
mean, I guess Yeah, I don't know.
Dan (00:46:57.000)
I think I I, I find it weird. A little bit. Yeah. Not in the same way that Alex finds it weird. But even beyond the weirdness, I think it doesn't belong in that set of 12 things there. So that probably has something to do with why it was dead on arrival. Yeah, and never went anywhere. Yeah. Strange. Definitely not what Alex is talking about No, but also has no effect on reality. Yeah. Also, it's important to note how Alex is talking about these things like sterilization and eugenics that did go on in America, but he's talking about them in a cartoonish way. There were horrible things that were done to people but saying that if you got under a B plus that CPS would show up and steal your uterus is just stupid. Yeah. And what you're doing there is you're giving the audience like a diet of false information about real things Yeah, that dis enable them you can't deal with reality on its own terms. Right? You will never be able to see the trends that did exist right within the eugenics that went on in America that have Rachel components to it that did have class components to it. That will not be available to you to to analyze and understand to put into your view of how the world again,
Jordan (00:48:21.000)
it's no,
Dan (00:48:22.000)
because you're just gonna be like, Oh, God, oh, no, Ruby plus Global's to write
Jordan (00:48:26.000)
uterus? No, I was I was thinking the same thing. Like it is very much a bye bye, exaggerating and transposing the reality of what the victims endured, and giving it to white people for no reason other than so they don't have to deal with what they they're the government's forebears did to all of these people, and then paralyze them to keep them from feeling like they need to do anything at all. There's no need to rectify these horrible crime crimes. If they're still going on. And now they're only happening to you. You know,
Dan (00:49:05.000)
yeah, it's disempowering in a malicious way. Yeah. Yeah. So speaking of maliciousness, this next or this same caller, has another question for Alex. And this is about three minutes of a clip. But I wanted this to exist in its full context, because I think what Alex is doing here is just monstrous. Okay?
Caller 2 (799) (00:49:30.000)
Do they have any other ways of doing this with these women or children besides just cutting out the uterus, like, maybe plant cancer or anything like that?
Alex Jones (00:49:43.000)
I was telling you what they did 25 years ago, right? Well,
Caller 2 (799) (00:49:46.000)
the reason why I'm asking is because I've always been suspicious about this. I'm now 26 years old. The first time I had ovarian cancer, I was 19. They said I had probably had it since puberty. Okay. Two years. later I got it again while I was pregnant with my son. Then I had to have a full hysterectomy while having my son premature and everything now I can have no children. My mother was well on welfare have three children. You know, none of us mean my brother. You know, he was always in trouble with the law. My sister. Did you have all the vaccines? Oh, yeah. All the vaccines and everything. I mean, CPS had come to our house. I don't know how many times because of all the issues going on in our household and so forth. But I mean, I'm just thinking, is this something maybe that they're doing? Because now you look at what went?
Alex Jones (00:50:34.000)
Well, Stacey, thanks for the call. Let me answer your question. Now. Six years ago, the United Nations was calling in over 130/3 World countries, with over 100 manufacturers that was the payoff to the countries to do it, the UN would pay their government to manufacture the vaccine according to their specifications. Tell them what company to hire to do it. That's how they did the pay off the politicians. They caught them in the tetanus shot in a un program just for women because, quote, you know, we're liberal, we care about the women, the boys don't get the tetanus shot. No, no, the girls were giving you something women. And they caught them adding a very expensive synthetic female hormone that had been bound to the tetanus pathogen. And so when the body created an auto immune response to the tetanus, it would also create an autoimmune response to that hormone that was released during pregnancy. And it would attack the different glands in the female reproductive system, and would develop polyps. Generally benign, but in some cases malignant on the ovaries and, and uterus and cause other problems. So yes, yes, yes. I don't know if that's the case with you, fuck you. But a lot of these autoimmune diseases they found with the troops, and in other cases, they're putting very high tech bio weapons that implant cancer, DNA and other things into the population.
Dan (00:52:14.000)
So what kind of a message are you supposed to get if you're the caller? When Alec says yes, yes, yes. I don't know if this guy is with you. I mean, I mean, obviously, you're supposed to come away with the yes, yeah, is the answer. Yeah, yes. The globalist did this. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking horrible. What he's doing to her. He's essentially recontextualizing her life for and backing up this bullshit with supposed authority and a wealth of knowledge that doesn't exist. If she believes him, her life and all her difficulties. They weren't just things that happen. Like, you know, these things like being born into a dysfunctional family or getting cancer. They weren't just random. They were attacks that were carried out by the globalists, instead of celebrating how resilient she must be to have gone through all that she has are empathizing with her Alex's making her a victim of his imaginary enemies. And he won't think about her again for a single second. But she's still alive when that phone call ends. And she trusts Alex enough to call in and ask a question like this. So it seems like she might trust him enough to take this answer seriously, which is grim. It's he's fucking with people. I
Jordan (00:53:21.000)
mean, that is that is him telling her because clearly her concern her storyline that she is afraid of, is that she was given cancer as a child, because she came from a broken home, the medical system wanted to erase her. Yeah. Then she survived that and got cancer again, when she was pregnant. So now the medical system doesn't, doesn't just want to erase her, it wants to
Dan (00:53:50.000)
erase her and her child. Yeah. And her ability to reproduce, reproduce.
Jordan (00:53:53.000)
And then all of this, all of this, like, comes down to you can never ever trust a doctor or anything. Well, and the chances of her getting cancer again, are astronomically higher compared to anybody else. Yeah, you know, and it's it is so much like, there is a world where she refuses to go to the doctor for her treatments, despite the onset of cancer again, and I mean,
Dan (00:54:23.000)
imagine the like, compounded risk of other people listening to this, internalize that message and don't want to go see totally appropriate healthcare. It's incredibly dangerous. And I mean, I don't, psychopathic,
Jordan (00:54:38.000)
I just cancelled it like this this way. If, if they had not intervened she would have died most likely. So when a child you know, like they Oh, god, that's so fucked. Yep. That's so fucking awful. Yeah.
Dan (00:54:54.000)
And it's like, Alex, writing her story for her. Yeah, and It's a story that only serves Alex's interests and makes her like, just a I don't understand. I feel like if I were in her position I would be far more hurt at the end of that call that at the beginning of it, yeah, because I had just gotten a like confirmation of like we were saying the worst the
Jordan (00:55:22.000)
worst fear that anyone could possibly have is literally the entire government is trying to erase you from existence individual individually. Yeah, by yourself, like Will Smith an enemy of the state?
Dan (00:55:33.000)
Yeah. The rest of it Alex is saying is just nonsense, anti Vax shit that he's half remembering and lying about? Yeah, the tetanus vaccine is largely given to pregnant people in the developing world because they're the ones who are most at risk and the immunity is passed on to the child. neonatal tetanus was a very serious risk factor in infant deaths. So it's why historically it's given to women or pregnant people. It doesn't have this expensive hormone that causes miscarriages in it. That was a claim that was made by anti Vax folks about the tetanus vaccine, but it's nonsense. They claimed that the tetanus vaccine has HCG in it and that it was given to pregnant people so that their bodies would learn to attack the HCG, which is a hormone related to pregnancy, thereby making them unable to have children. In reality, what they're doing is lying about a different birth control vaccine that was tested but never released, where tetanus was used, as a carrier for HCG is the reverse of this, right? They're conflating that stuff altogether. I'm pretty sure we've talked about this in the past, so I'm not gonna dive too deeply into it again. But Alex is essentially pretending to care about people in the developing world by yelling about these imaginary vaccine concerns, when in reality, all he's doing is putting more people at risk. Yeah, so many kids die from neonatal tetanus, and it's entirely avoidable if people just take the vaccine, which is what Alex wants them not to do. In 2000, approximately 170,000 children died of neonatal tetanus compared to just over 14,000 in 2019. And that's what Alex wants to undo. Yeah. So that's B, just I mean, that take that for what it's worth.
Jordan (00:57:04.000)
Yeah. What do you what do you say other than this is a man. Like telling you to close your eyes while you're driving your car? You know, just like, hey, listen, I'm not telling you to kill yourself. I am telling you to close your eyes and drive your car at 100 miles an hour. I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm just
Dan (00:57:23.000)
saying. The people who tell you not to do that. Just don't want you to the fried. Yeah,
Jordan (00:57:27.000)
then they're the ones who are trying to kill babies.
Dan (00:57:31.000)
And they're the ones who know all about the joys of driving.
Jordan (00:57:34.000)
They're the ones who enjoy it the most. Yeah, every time that they you see them driving their their eyes are closed. They're going 100 Right
Dan (00:57:40.000)
now, they've tried to keep it from you have these people in the
Jordan (00:57:43.000)
world? Ben desira In Roadhouse.
Dan (00:57:47.000)
So, here's where Alex is at about his performance. Yeah, okay.
Alex Jones (00:57:52.000)
We got to gas loaded phones. I've covered 10% of the news, and I've done a good job. This first hour did cover a lot of what I wanted to get to. There's so much coming up, just stay with us. Good job,
Jordan (00:58:02.000)
has not done a good job. It's just a bet. You know, sometimes when you've done a good job, you need to pat yourself on the back, you know, and there's nobody there to walk on. Be like, Hey, man, you're crushing it today. Carolina. Yep. This is today is your best work. They're killing
Dan (00:58:16.000)
it. And by it. I mean, your listeners. Yeah. So this is the end of the first hour and the second hour, Paul, Joseph Watson comes on and is just nothing. Yeah, nothing. That guy does not have jobs.
Jordan (00:58:33.000)
Can't believe he has had a career since then, for longer? Well, it's
Dan (00:58:37.000)
an incubation thing. You know, like, he had some kind of nascent talent. Sure. And no one was really paying attention while he was on Infowars. There's kind of like the open mics. Sure. Sure. Sure. He's on and he's definitely an open mic or at this point, right. And then I guess he grows through it. He figures out how to look snarky. Like he's maybe about to cry and fast cuts and a YouTube video and then you know, who made it work? But yeah, at this point, no one would have been interested in it. He is woof brutal woof. And so we're not gonna list any of that. Yay. Then we get the rant rescue guy. Cory never caught it. And I found this very conflicting, because I think this guy sucks. He's a monster. But he also went missing in 2017. And I feel weird about that. I don't want to talk too badly about it. Because he, I don't know, but I'm conflicted.
Jordan (00:59:31.000)
He well. Yeah. Nah,
Dan (00:59:34.000)
we can talk about a little bit of what was going on in 2004. But I'm not gonna dwell on it too much. Sometimes
Jordan (00:59:39.000)
your choices lead to a place
Dan (00:59:42.000)
But see, that's the thing. I don't know if that's true. I could be completely unrelated to anything about his life the missing in the there are a million possibilities. True, but it's it seems scary. I will say
Jordan (00:59:56.000)
this. I will say this when you are poor person who illegally detained and kidnaps people, you have a higher risk of suddenly being disappeared from your car. I'm just gonna throw that out there.
Dan (01:00:07.000)
Yeah, it's possible. But I think that drifts a little too closely to some of the ideas that Alex would obviously have, which is that, oh, the Mexican government disappeared him because he was trying to stop their immigration flow. Oh, I know. Whatever. Yeah. Conspiracy angle, right, that someone like Alex would take on his disappearance. Whereas, you know, the same thing kind of exists to feel like, yeah, you're, you're out there. You know, detaining people. Sure. Maybe you got detained.
Jordan (01:00:39.000)
I mean, I was thinking meth. That was my first Yeah.
Dan (01:00:43.000)
I mean, there is a heavy overlap. That was my first thought. Well, I do think that some of his the, his the way he's communicating doesn't seem sober. Yeah, necessarily, not drunk or anything, but there is a little bit of a Babylon. Yeah, I've seen some people on bath in my day, from Missouri. Sure. So like, I don't it doesn't give me the same vibe as that. But there's something up with him. Yeah.
Jordan (01:01:10.000)
Well, I mean, 2004 meth, that's not 2017 math, right. You know, Walter White hadn't exactly completely different shit. Yeah, so this may be 2204. Man, he's got the swag. Back when you just got weed
Dan (01:01:26.000)
when you're picking these stems up right. So he's gonna tell his side of the story here. And this is just bullshit.
Cory Nethercott (01:01:35.000)
I was arrested in Hebron Ville, Texas, on the allegations of of two male and a female illegal alien said that I test the wisdom. And I assure you not only did I not test the with them, I was 25 feet from them. When when ranch rescue first contacted them. Ranch rescue took them to the they're on private property. So it got into the gate where to release them, gave them food, gave them water, gave them blankets, and told them to leave. While we had them at the gate we call Border Patrol. They wouldn't come out. We call the sheriff and they refuse to come out. They said we're not coming out. No, we're not doing it. By the way.
Alex Jones (01:02:13.000)
National French media was there throughout this. That's the only reason you're not in prison now.
Cory Nethercott (01:02:18.000)
Yes, sir. They took pictures of everything. showing these people complained they were treated pal. They were treated better than we were down there, Alex. Now these weren't Mexicans either. Salvadorians. They were from El Salvador. That's right. And please continue. Well, what we did is, is we filmed everything. We have pictures showing it nobody hurt these people. We have videotape show. Nobody hurt these people. And we released them. As soon as they got into federal custody. Somebody will guess who said we need to file a complaint for them just a weapon you. And that's what happened a few days later, to myself and another member of ranch rescue went to the Dairy Queen to get murders. And they swarmed on us. And they said, Why did you beat those people? And we told them the truth. We told them what happened and nobody beat him.
Alex Jones (01:03:03.000)
And now Morris Ds are trying to take the property. Well, let
Cory Nethercott (01:03:06.000)
me tell you something about Morris DS. I talked to him two days ago as Deez Nuts wants to deal. He doesn't want to he wants to drop his lawsuit. You need to sue him. No, you need to do other things to him balance. Unfortunately, the legal I can't do it.
Dan (01:03:22.000)
So Maurice Morris DS and the SPLC gave legal help to the Salvadorians. That's what's going on here. So this is not how things went. No. According to the court case, which case he lost the two Salvadorans were walking across the property on foot, at which point one of the members of the vigilante posse started chasing them, firing numerous gunshots and threatening to kill them. The vigilante searched for the immigrants with a trained Rottweiler attack dog which case he allowed to attack one of the immigrants case he also hit one of them in the back of the head with his gun. The vigilantes held them at gunpoint making them kneel on the ground and subjecting them to a lengthy interrogation. They're held for approximately 90 minutes before they let them go, but not before threatening to kill them. Again, given the fact that this was a matter that appeared before the court, I am going to take this account a little more seriously than this self serving bullshit. This guy who previously illegally detained high schoolers is telling Alex and not proving any of it. Yeah. Because you really think that if video of the entire thing was that he wouldn't have lost his goddamn ranch? No,
Jordan (01:04:26.000)
no. That's how video evidence works. Whenever somebody is I mean, if you didn't have deep fakes back then either
Dan (01:04:32.000)
physically exculpatory evidence.
Jordan (01:04:34.000)
So exculpatory Yeah, they wouldn't let us say, put it into evidence because not well, admittedly, it was hand drawn on video, it's actually recreated so I mean, it does have the Tom and Jerry kind of animation style to it.
Dan (01:04:50.000)
Well see one of the things that's really interesting to me when I hear somebody have all this evidence, yeah. And they're not presenting it never feels weird and when That's a trend becomes even more weird, interesting.
Cory Nethercott (01:05:04.000)
We have tapes that are hidden that we can't show anybody. We show the Mexican military moving 1000s of pounds of drugs down here. Nobody does anything well,
Alex Jones (01:05:14.000)
like the tombstone Tumbleweed has the Feza footage on them when the containers and stuff
Cory Nethercott (01:05:19.000)
I know but we've got one better than that. We've gotten when it comes to the fence and they say don't kill us if we don't stop.
Alex Jones (01:05:25.000)
Well, why haven't you shown it's true? Well, are you there? Yeah, we'll talk about it. We'll get back. Stay there.
Jordan (01:05:32.000)
Did he edit something out?
Dan (01:05:33.000)
No. They just thought Alex wasn't there. Oh, that
Jordan (01:05:36.000)
was a that's a fast. Well, two.
Dan (01:05:39.000)
I think we might have heard the music. Gotcha. That might have been what was good for us. Okay. Okay. Um, but yeah, so like, why don't you release it? Well,
Jordan (01:05:47.000)
you still there, Alex.
Dan (01:05:49.000)
So Alex brought up the tombstone Tumbleweed. You might remember that name. Yeah. That's the anti immigrant rag that was distributed by Chris Simcox, who was on Alex's show on 2004 Episode we covered recently, you might remember him as the guy who's currently in jail for child sexual abuse charges. Doing a 19 and a half year sentence. So cool.
Jordan (01:06:11.000)
Yeah. I really think that the first time you kidnap somebody should be your last time kidnapping somebody. That that's not a three strikes law. I feel like that's not a three strikes thing. No. I feel like we should probably be a bit more aggressive in law enforcement after you've kicked up somebody the first time.
Dan (01:06:29.000)
Yeah, there's a part of me that feels like an act like kidnapping. Yeah. Takes a certain resolve. Exactly. And it's not I don't think somebody's first crime is going to be kidnapping. Generally. I guess.
Jordan (01:06:48.000)
Kidnapping is not a gateway crime to like, low level burglary
Dan (01:06:53.000)
anyway, but I feel I feel like Yeah, sure. Let's, let's go ahead and not let people do multiple kidnappings. Yeah, especially
Jordan (01:07:01.000)
if that's the same guy who is like, Hey, we should do more to that SPLC guy, but it's illegal. You know? Yeah. Yeah, that guy's probably trouble.
Dan (01:07:11.000)
Pretty weird. So the rest of this guy's interview is mostly just him complaining about stuff, I don't believe. Yeah. That sounds right. So I don't know, I don't have a whole lot to go on there. Because like, also, it's the variety of like, real personal life complaints that like are impossible to verify or disprove. So I find it very boring. Yeah, for him to be like, and then a cop said to me, Yeah, you better sign here. Why don't you become a snitch? You know,
Jordan (01:07:43.000)
I, I've always been of the opinion that if you are, say a person who has a space that regularly experiences things that nobody else experiences, chances are you're not telling the truth, right? Maybe there's a ranch in Arizona that has had illegal immigrants who happen walk across one time, they doubt the Mexican army and hordes of illegal immigrants are constantly walking across your land, regular after day after day after
Dan (01:08:16.000)
day, they've built a railroad.
Jordan (01:08:19.000)
What are we doing here? Yes.
Dan (01:08:22.000)
So one last clip, and it's Alex gonna get into some news rundown at the end of the show. And compare this to his present day feeling
Alex Jones (01:08:30.000)
okay. Shaolin here to Putin for Russian presidency, is missing. One of Vladimir Putin's challengers in next month's presidential election is missing. And the police and security services announced today that they have a gun to search for him. Every time there's an election in Russia, by the way, there's a bunch of bombings. And then Putin gets to say, give me your liberty for security. I've got to secretly arrest my competition take over the media, and who's been caught publicly blowing stuff up?
Dan (01:08:58.000)
Oh, man. Wow. Sounds really different boy, than nowadays.
Jordan (01:09:03.000)
That seems pretty unforgivable. Yeah, man. You know, seems that's one of those things where it's like, no, no, you do not get forgiveness for those things.
Dan (01:09:14.000)
Yeah. I mean, I think I think that there's a lot of people who can have changes of heart, they can have, you know, people can go from one ideology to another when they learn more, there's growth, the charitable for people totally. But I think when you're like the ex, head of the KGB, who rises to full stop by doing false flag bombings and your political enemies are still in power 20 something years later, I think that maybe you haven't had a change of heart. I
Jordan (01:09:47.000)
don't think so.
Dan (01:09:48.000)
I think Alex is just needed to shift the narrative, because Putin is the kind of world leader that he wants. Yeah. Yep. So anyway, that's what's going on there. But in the past, Alex had a very different Joan,
Jordan (01:10:01.000)
I mean, that's just one of those things. You know, I just don't think we should forgive world leaders for any of the choices they make.
Dan (01:10:10.000)
Yeah, yeah. I Yeah. I mean, if we if we were to redesign a slightly better society, I do think that responsibility, we should be much higher for people who accept positions of leadership. Totally, totally. It should be like, Yes, you are still a person. Yes, you still have rights. But you have decided that you want to undertake the very difficult job of leading a country and what comes with that? Not you're not gonna like it more responsibility
Jordan (01:10:37.000)
is a higher ethical standard, not a lower ethical standard, which somehow is what we have now.
Dan (01:10:44.000)
Yeah, there's like almost a feeling of like, oh, it's hard to lead a country cut some slack.
Jordan (01:10:49.000)
Yeah. No, shouldn't be that way. No, no, no, no, no.
Dan (01:10:53.000)
But anyway, we come to the end of this and it was racist as hell. And I don't know, not necessarily the way I'd like to spend my birthday. But you know, you can't always get what you want. It's true. So, we'll be back on Wednesday, maybe with a modern day episode. Or maybe I was just looking at Twitter while I was playing that last clip. As we're recording on it, it was just announced that Tucker Carlson has left Fox, what the most important man in the world is now a free agent. Oh, shit. So maybe this
Jordan (01:11:29.000)
Info Wars 2.0 We're transferring ownership.
Dan (01:11:34.000)
No way. No. Tucker needs something to do. And Alex would be an albatross around his neck, there is no chance. But you know, outside of Fox, maybe he would be more prone to work with him or have him on something he so who knows. Anyway, there's value in it for him. Maybe he would do that Holy shit. So we'll see how the fallout of that is maybe? Yeah, maybe. I mean, we're recording this before Alex does his Monday show. Yeah. So the Monday show may be about going going row Hell Boy. Anyway, we'll find out how all each we will figure out but until then Jordan River website? Indeed we
Jordan (01:12:15.000)
do. It's knowledge.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Dan (01:12:19.000)
Yeah, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neil and Leo. I'm DCX Clark.
Jordan (01:12:28.000)
And now here comes the sex
Andy In Kansas (01:12:29.000)
robots. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
