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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)
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Alex Jones (00:00:55.000)
luck, knowledge fight.com Hey, everybody,
Dan (00:00:59.000)
welcome back to knowledge, right. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're dudes sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed
Jordan (00:01:07.000)
we are Dion Jordan Dion Jordanna. I have a quick question for you. What is it what you're talking about today?
Dan (00:01:14.000)
I'd like to turn the tables on you. Ooh, what's your brights?
Jordan (00:01:17.000)
I will tell you what my bright spot is Dan, my bright spot is now normally in this point in time. If I were to say the word tennis, who would you think I was talking about?
Dan (00:01:27.000)
Well, it can't be Rafa because you want me to think that it is. Exactly so it's got to be Agassi.
Jordan (00:01:33.000)
Not quite saying no. So so that Greek guy who came very close to kids, right Carlos Alcatraz world number 119 years old. No, he's he's my new Spanish Adonis. Oh, right. I had 19 year old Rafa. last 20 years. Now you've got Alcatraz now I've got 19 year old Alcatraz, and he's playing Yannick center, right, who is another 21 year old kid, right? He's very just played. They are two of the best players in the game and they just played one of the most incredible matches that you see outside of like a Rafa or Federer or Rafa and Djokovic kind of met it is they were playing incredible tennis. It was amazing. And it made me it was like, Oh, thank goodness. After this, you know, people have been yelling about the Big Three era being like, Oh, what are we going to do after that? You know, all that shit. We got cool shit coming up, man. Nice, really, really fun to watch
Dan (00:02:26.000)
is always a great feeling to know that the next generation is going to be cuz I have some, some hits. I mean,
Jordan (00:02:33.000)
it's been it's been brutal, you know, under the under Rafa and Federer and Djokovic, so that next generation was so beaten down psychologically of like, we're never going to win.
Dan (00:02:43.000)
I feel like there might, I don't know if this is applicable, but maybe this, what more of my mind goes is like I was a basketball fan around that time after Jordan. Right. And so that sort of evokes that feeling in me of like, the sort of the end of Jordan's career and then the like, new crop of folks that were coming up. Sure. You know, folks like maybe Karl Malone and Charles Barkley had been beaten down by we're never going to win it. Right. Right. Right. It's like I'm not gonna win. Patrick Ewing was not gonna win it. No. So like, maybe, you know, maybe there's a little I don't know, trying to I'm trying to relate.
Jordan (00:03:19.000)
No, no, I understand. It's like Kobe would never be able to flourish. If Jordan were still around. Kobe, Kobe, his whole thing would have been eaten alive by Jordan. And only by Jordan leaving was Kobe allowed to try and take over that mantle of George. Sure. You know, that kind of
Dan (00:03:35.000)
then there was the Allen Iverson told us to find Stephon Marbury Sharpie Keith Van Horn, but
Jordan (00:03:40.000)
it wasn't until LeBron that we got new Jodie Foster tag and then it wasn't until during that we got a perfect country Brian Reeves and then the next the next the next person coming is this guy named Wimba. Jana. He is seven foot three. He can shoot as well as Steph Curry. He's smooth like the seven foot three guy is supposed to lumber. You know. He is like a lizard. He's like a snake. He's just going wherever you want gold seven foot. Oh, he is going to be the like everybody on the planet is like, Oh, I don't know what basketball is gonna look like after this guy. Because he's just gonna lay waste to this world.
Dan (00:04:18.000)
Wow. Yeah. Good times. Yeah. Good times, laying waste to the world. What's
Jordan (00:04:21.000)
your bright spot, buddy?
Dan (00:04:22.000)
Man, I'm conflicted. We're recording this on the same day that we recorded Monday's episode. So coming up with another bright, bright spots
Jordan (00:04:29.000)
in the back. I thought about it before we came today. I was like I had to get my second one in the chamber. I can't
Dan (00:04:34.000)
say what happened at WrestleMania. Week. Night one because it hasn't happened yet. It's still this evening. That's true. I can't pretend that it's day two because that's tomorrow. But
Jordan (00:04:44.000)
I will say that your brightspot Almost certainly would have been Wrestlemanias action. If
Dan (00:04:51.000)
history is Prelude. It wouldn't be because I'm disappointed.
Jordan (00:04:55.000)
Oh, okay. So your brightspot Is this once again. You get to live in the joy of it. anticipation I don't
Dan (00:05:01.000)
have buyer's remorse. Exactly. Yeah, you're
Jordan (00:05:03.000)
bright spot. Is it sit? The possibilities are still endless. Yeah, you
Dan (00:05:06.000)
know, there is something to that anything can happen anything. They all could have a great time.
Jordan (00:05:12.000)
By iMedia you don't know.
Dan (00:05:15.000)
Logan Paul is fighting Seth Rollins.
Jordan (00:05:18.000)
I'm not saying it would be a bright spot. But it would be notable if all of a sudden like, oh, the digital greatest tragedy is the first night of WrestleMania was hit by a small Meteor. It would
Dan (00:05:29.000)
it would move the needle would move the needle we'll be talking about here. But would it be a work? Would it be a case paid media? That's the question.
Jordan (00:05:40.000)
It was. It was Vince behind it the whole time. Right. He was sick of having to get he got kicked out. Now he's back after the meeting. At
Dan (00:05:48.000)
the time that he was away. He was on the top of the man. Yeah,
Jordan (00:05:51.000)
he's got he's fighting against people with blonde hair. Yeah, I'm all into it.
Dan (00:05:56.000)
So anyway, this is actually kind of appropriate to be my holdover. brightspot Sure, because wrestling might come up on this episode. Okay. In a very depressing way. Oh, no. So today, Jordan, we're going to be in the past? Yes. Because like we mentioned, we're recording this in advance for your vacation. So what can you do? Really? I mean, we could talk about a project Camelot mother thing. Weekend, Mr. Grant in the past, I'm having fun swimming in these past I am loving,
Jordan (00:06:22.000)
and I'm loving the past. And I'm also loving the, like, newfound lack of decks destination about the past. I'm feeling less like we're looking for an investigation where
Dan (00:06:34.000)
I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, I think I enjoy it too. Because we can take what comes and we can get little mini investigations along the way. Like, what does he do about Saddam? You know, unfortunately, that backfired on me hard with Dean scream. True, true. But that was really just be paid to kick and trying to find something for our live show. Ie there is a little bit about that. So I don't know if we have any progress on any real fronts. Now that sounds about right. But there is one thread actually that continues in the last clip of this episode that I laughed my ass off when it happened. Okay, so I'm very excited to get to that. But first before we get into anything, let's take a little moment say hello to some new wall. Oh, that's great idea. So first. I think it's Ian. It's spelled e o i n from Scotland. And I always want to say E one e and it's the end. Yeah. That Oh is out of place. Anyway, your now balls you on? Thank you.
Alex Jones (00:07:27.000)
I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Dan (00:07:29.000)
I feel like people are fucking with me here too, because I just looked at the next one. Thank you so much. President of the Finnish knowledge club. Knowledge fight fan club of s poo. The city is pronounced like Espo not SP. Thank you so much more now. palsy while
Alex Jones (00:07:43.000)
I'm a policy wonk, I get it. Thank you
Jordan (00:07:45.000)
very much. I don't know.
Dan (00:07:48.000)
Next at Jack Durden. Thank you so much. You're an hour palsy Walker.
Alex Jones (00:07:51.000)
I'm a policy wonk. Thank
Jordan (00:07:52.000)
you very much.
Dan (00:07:53.000)
And my wife's tennis partner has uncle how the elbow thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:07:59.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Dan (00:08:00.000)
Thank you very much worried about that elbow. We got to take right in the mix Jordan also. So thank you so much to christen Cheyenne would like to announce the birth of Copeland ah, on December 3 2021. Blackjack. You are now a technocrat?
Alex Jones (00:08:14.000)
I'm a policy wonk
Caller 6 (793) (00:08:16.000)
donkey man and telling you brilliant someone
Alex Jones (00:08:18.000)
Someone saw tonight sent me a bucket of poop daddy sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser. Little little teeny, baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounced Jesus Christ.
Dan (00:08:34.000)
That's a palindrome date.
Jordan (00:08:35.000)
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go out on a limb. And I'm gonna say they did that one on purpose.
Dan (00:08:39.000)
I think that was a joke. Yeah. But I think it might have been a real baby.
Jordan (00:08:42.000)
I think it may have been a real baby. Yeah. The jury's out on that still. Yeah, I don't have any proof.
Dan (00:08:47.000)
Yeah, so we start here. This is going to be covering the period of January 27 28th. And 29th. We actually don't have anything on the 28th the audio was jacked. So I jumped to the from the 27th to the 29th. And here's where Alex starts out on the 27th. Talking a little bit about bird flu, which we know is a bio weapon. He has a day in the present day, but what was it in 2004?
Alex Jones (00:09:13.000)
Find out like a bird flu outbreak is deadliest on record. And why suddenly we see all this showing up? And why are they fear mongering? Well, it's it's obviously serious, and it's killing people. And it's a deadly strain of flu. But the reason we see the flu is always coming out of Asia, is because they'll have 10s of 1000s of pigs in pens on these giant hog farms right next to 1000s and 1000s of geese and chickens. And they've done the studies they've known for 50 years. It's because of the manure on the different species combined together and becomes like giant petri dishes, where different types of flu viruses mutate and merge together. And that's where it's all coming from.
Dan (00:10:00.000)
Oh so it's agricultural stuff naturally kind of boring and huh weird weird. Weird that wasn't by with back then. So there's this trend we've been tracking here in the past and that is that Alex's show cuts off constantly Yeah, like almost every episode that he gets the feed to. Yeah, so here this is the third time it happens within the half hour of
Alex Jones (00:10:31.000)
the show. So we'll get into that to also what some of the new leaked news memos are saying about the government staging actors playing the part of troops saying how much they love the war on television. Howard Dean called for microchip ID card
Jordan (00:11:00.000)
Thank God it's a better show. Now
Dan (00:11:03.000)
I thought the clip that I had there actually had him coming back in because he's just kind of like frustrated but also like you know, what are you gonna do not not that big a deal? He's really varying between whether or not it's a conspiracy or whether it's a very obvious low rent operation. Technical difficult. What are we
Jordan (00:11:24.000)
going to do with this one? Yeah, I mean, you can't really be mad after it happens this many times this often. You can't even be really mad anymore. No, you know, you can only really be mad if it happens once every month or something and you're like this is because somebody fucked up but if
Dan (00:11:39.000)
it's if it's happening all the time, and you haven't been able to catch the saboteur yet. That is also why you can't really have it be a conspiracy because it implies a real lack of effectual illness on your part. You should really be looking for that saboteur. Yeah, especially if it's three times in the first half hour of the show. So Alex decides let's go fucking low stakes text not working. today. I'm going to talk to my gold guy. All right, so he has a guy from Midas resources on to sell gold. This dude is intense. He is much more so than TED ANDERSON and even bob chapman. He is just who this guy swinging.
Midas Resources Spokesperson (00:12:17.000)
I can sell them to you in groups of 10 or 20. Mixed up like that. Now, first off, first thing some guys say, oh, geez, I can't afford 10 or 20. You know what? Don't say I can't afford 10 or 20. Call up your broker here at the Alex line 888-294-6187. Let them know what you need to protect. You need to protect your loved ones. You need to protect yourself. You don't need to protect cable television. You don't need to protect anything else. This is This is life and death. Greevil. This is absolutely life and death. Give us a call today on the Alex line 888-294-6187
Dan (00:12:59.000)
Call the Alex line and buy our gold or else your family is going to die.
Jordan (00:13:02.000)
That guy has taken a lot of the same sales classes I took at that time. Or know a little bit later.
Dan (00:13:08.000)
But delivery is soft. Yeah. And low. But the what he's saying is a little bit too much. Yep. So I thought this was interesting. This was a guy that I don't know of, or I don't really know who he is even really, he's just a Midas resource salesman. But he said something that I thought was slightly interesting.
Midas Resources Spokesperson (00:13:26.000)
I've been doing this for 26 years, Alex, I'm as happy right now with the way gold is going as I was in 1979 because it looks like we're off to the races here. Give us a call today on an Alex line 888-294-6187. Tell him you're a loyal Alex Jones listener. Tell him you want the Alex Jones special. charge more. As a bonus. Anybody that buys 10 coins, I will give a free subscription to The International forecaster.
Alex Jones (00:13:59.000)
All right, well, Jack, thanks for coming on the show. The International
Dan (00:14:01.000)
forecaster is Bob Chapman's newsletter. Right. So bob chapman is already financially entwined with MIDAS resources as far back as 2004. Yeah, just a little bit earlier than I would have put it because I don't see Bob coming on once a week at this period. Like he does in like the 2008 2009 timeframe. Even a little bit after that. Yeah, but Bob has a much more regular presence now but you
Jordan (00:14:25.000)
know, maybe he had you know, he had to work his way into the trust. Trusted. You can go on the radio level of Midas resources situation, you know,
Dan (00:14:35.000)
could be a bob and Tad are tight, but Alex maybe doesn't know Bob as well.
Jordan (00:14:41.000)
He could very much be like this is or just like Ted hires this dude to run a newsletter and that's
Dan (00:14:48.000)
it. No, no, that's not what it is. Okay, Bob had his newsletter. And they started marketing gold and Bob was also in the gold business. Sure. Way back to his roots in South Africa were deja crepe. But yeah, so he had all that that history. So he was already in this shithole gold market, she had his newsletter and then like the two of them just kind of entwined their interests. So like if you buy gold you get subscribed to you get a free subscription to The International forecast, then the international forecaster is always directing people to Midas resorts course to buy gold.
Jordan (00:15:26.000)
So it's kind of a it's an era Boris of bullshit. Yeah, yeah. But
Dan (00:15:29.000)
it's not I wouldn't characterize it as like, he's on the payroll to do newsletter there. There's still a little bit more. I think there's more autonomy probably to Bob's newsletter than Alex has on his own show. Yeah, really. I believe that Bob's newsletter from a lot of the stuff that I've read his flagrantly racist Oh, great. Like, yeah, beyond even what Alex throws out. Some of that stuff is just like, holy shit. Yeah. Yeah.
Jordan (00:15:53.000)
It's great. When even if you're looking for investment advice, they're like, Wow, we gotta be racist. can't not be.
Dan (00:16:00.000)
Yeah, well, there's, you know, investment advice only fills up so many pages. Yeah,
Jordan (00:16:04.000)
you're right. It's really kind of a yes or no. Investment. Yes. No, you know, so Alex,
Dan (00:16:10.000)
take some calls. Sure. And this one caller is a little bit he's got a bad idea.
Caller 3 (793) (00:16:16.000)
Hi, Alex. Hello. Good to find good chance to talk to you had a couple of things that I wanted to let you know, one was, you've gone over this thing a bunch of times on the Silverstein video on that. But last Thursday, I decided to send them a link in email to about 25 different friends on the page that you had set up on prison planet.com with all the different videos and all different information, and a sample 25 emails about 11 o'clock Thursday night. And then Friday, I decided to check it because I put in the email I wanted comments back from a my friends on what they thought about this. And Friday night, I go to go into my email, check it and I type in my password. And of course, it says invalid password or username. I tried this three times got the same message. And I decided to click on the Help button and I did that and we get a page it comes up says this Yahoo account has been deactivated. I found it to be quite interesting. And I went to go to my Yahoo Messenger to see if I could get on that and talk to some people. And I plugged in my username and password. And I get a little message comes up says system. Your account has been locked for security reasons. So that's never happened before when I've emailed anything out. And I've got this happening now. So that was kind of interesting that that happened within a 24 hour period of time.
Alex Jones (00:17:30.000)
They're very upset about the Silverstein story.
Caller 3 (793) (00:17:34.000)
I can see that.
Alex Jones (00:17:36.000)
Well, yeah, I mean, my show would probably go off the air about for 10 seconds once a year. Right. And now it's continually happening. We've had the phone company out here eight times and looked at it we can connect when we're not live nothing happens. Then when we're live this happens I have to go to a backup studio. I'm considering that now.
Dan (00:17:54.000)
It's not It's a conspiracy. Conspiracy. So I love the image of these globalists that Alex thinks he's fighting so like they need to do things out in the open because of cosmic laws right because they have to let you know without doing interdimensional treaties, predictive programming, Glasser magic we all know. So they have to have Silverstein come out on PBS and say that they blew up the building, they have to do it because they have to give you a choice or whatever and what needs to be done. But as soon as people start talking about it a ton, they're all of a sudden terrified and want to shut it down by all means, possible to the extent that they would sabotage Alex's studio and close the Yahoo account of some weirdo who probably has 25 friends that he has contacts with on email. Yeah, this is a silly, yeah, this is dumb. Yeah, I
Jordan (00:18:37.000)
think I think maybe you forgot your password. Or instead of clicking the reset your passwords I knew were like, what if I try my password elsewhere? It
Dan (00:18:48.000)
could be also just a coincidence. Could be, you know?
Jordan (00:18:51.000)
Yep. I mean, it is a coincidence. Like the problem. It is a Cohen some sort of a tech problem. It is not a conspiracy even a little bit.
Dan (00:18:59.000)
I see scant evidence. by that. I mean, not not. So the New York Observer had a story. I think about a year prior to this about Scotland bones. Sure. And so Alex digs us back up.
Alex Jones (00:19:13.000)
Now, two years ago, the New York Observer was able to perch atop a chimney of a building across the street from the tomb in New Haven, Connecticut, where Yale is based and they were able to catch on video one of the rituals they do that had been reported in the lake by stolen mounds members of the past and that is ritual throat slitting of women and then offering their bodies up to Satan and then one of the Scotland Belen members walks out in a outfit dressed up like the devil and says, I'm Satan. You can now enter the underworld fun you yourself sacrifice has served me well. Good time. And the New York Post reported on it The New York Times reported on it, Fox, CNN and Peter Jennings. I've got him on video, playing it and saying, Oh, they're just having fun. What's the big deal? Yeah, they're
Dan (00:20:14.000)
all having fun.
Jordan (00:20:15.000)
I think I would know more about even the most secretive college fraternity style thing. If they were regularly throat slitting, you feel like regular throat slitting is the point at which we would all know a lot more about it. Yeah.
Dan (00:20:29.000)
And the other thing that's really important to understand is the tomb is a building writers a courtyard in the middle of it. Yeah, so it's not it's not like an actual tomb,
Jordan (00:20:38.000)
too. It's not a catacombs. Beneath Paris. Yeah, filled with skull. And
Dan (00:20:42.000)
so there's a courtyard in the middle of it. And this person was able to get video by standing on another rooftop and looking into the courtyard. And so if they were slitting throats in there now, courtyard, first of all dumb Yeah, and yeah, very obvious. would be would be it would be observed by a bunch of people also might be finding a lot of bodies.
Jordan (00:21:03.000)
Yeah, you know, I understand that the rich we believe that they are capable of so much more than we are which is true, but there are limits and I think once you get to 15, or 20, throat slits, or the slit throats over over the decades of
Dan (00:21:20.000)
bones. We also know about Alex's different Babbo difficulty in differentiating between, like real and fake and it's true and so like he'll talk about how they actually burned a child at Bohemian Grove and stuff check when there's an effigy or something right you know, until like a mock throat slitting or something he would report is them actually splitting up right, right. Who knows what even fucking Sure, sure. So in 2001, a New York Observer reporter named Ron Rosenbaum published an article about how he and a team had spied on what they decided must have been a skull and bones initiation ceremony from the roof of a neighboring building from which they could spy into the courtyard. And this is kind of raises an important question. Like if it's this easy to spy on the skull and bones rituals, why hasn't anyone done it previously, it's not like the neighboring building was just built. If the bones men were really as concerned about ultimate privacy as they appear to be you think that they would have the foresight to know that their courtyard was plainly visible from an easy to access rooftop. It's almost like they don't actually need total privacy. But the allure of mystery is the only thing that gives them any kind of meaning in society. So you play into it. Yeah, I watched this video, and it's dumb. It's really hard to make out a lot of what's going on because it's at night, and it was shot on the quality of cameras that were around in 2001. So you kind of have to fill in a lot of the gaps yourself, which is exactly what Alex is doing. Yeah. From what I can tell, they definitely make some dude kiss a skull, and there's a lot of yelling. I got that much
Jordan (00:22:48.000)
from all right. So they're the proud boys. No cereals.
Dan (00:22:50.000)
Now, former Skull and Bones members went on the record and said that this was what was on the video was nothing like what they went through in their initiation rites. And it seems unlikely that a group that's so invested in tradition and their own history would just up and change the initiation ceremony into this screaming nonsense. Having watched the video and poked around a little bit for contextual information, I'm inclined to believe the perspective that the former bones man, Steve McDonald, told the Yale daily news when he speculated that the whole thing might have been staged or that there's like a prank going on. Another compelling point he makes is that with few exceptions, these kinds of rights are carried out inside the headquarters. Of course, not in the courtyard course. Yeah, I think this is all really silly. And ultimately, it's a situation where the only people profiting from these kinds of stories are the conspiracy theorists and the elites that conspiracy theorists get to sensationalized shape in order to craft more interesting narratives to capture their audience and bullshit worldviews. The elites, particularly the Ivy League, folk who are part of these secret societies in college, they get to enjoy the mystique that this attention gives them and how the absurdity of it all places them into somewhat elevated position above the masses. Oh, you've gone through these secret rituals and rites of secrets and maybe even supernatural powers that you don't have access to. Because you're not one of the elites. Yeah, it's all just a dumb game. Might as well be like reality TV, quite frankly.
Jordan (00:24:11.000)
Yeah. I mean, why not? If somebody if people want to give you a self fulfilling prophecy of like, Oh, look at how cool and secret these people are? Why not be cool and secret? lean
Dan (00:24:23.000)
into it. Throw in the Yeah, that'd be gonna believe you if you debunk it. Anyway, who cares? You're a fucking fraternity. Yeah. So Alex talks a bit about the connections between the bin Laden family and the Bush family, which is fair enough. There are connections there. Yeah. Alex's version of the story a little silly. But then he gets sidetracked.
Alex Jones (00:24:44.000)
Below is the timeline that details the relationship between the bin Laden and the bushes, families that culminates in the tragic events of September 11. Well, I mean, we got FBI agent Robert Wright standing up the National Press Club crying, saying here's the letter. Where am I? Tell you what I know I'll be arrested. That's w 199. I folks, that that's an order or arising out of that order. People still deny w 199. I, what is it the Associated Press and the BBC admitted? Bush said don't stop the building odd was don't stop al Qaeda. And again, people just say, Well, I'm not going to talk about that. It's not true. Okay, it's not true.
Dan (00:25:24.000)
So this document w 199. Ai is a really useful and mysterious thing and Alex's hands. It's a big part of some of these earlier 911 conspiracy theories that have been forgotten to time. This isn't one that a lot of people trot out anymore, and Alex probably doesn't even remember,
Jordan (00:25:39.000)
I proposed, we shortened it to Winnie fine.
Dan (00:25:42.000)
At times, it's an FBI thing. At times. It's a national security document, but it's always meant to emanate from the President. The idea is that when he is a presidential directive, saying that all investigations needed to leave the bin Laden alone, the implication being that the Bush's family ties to the bin Laden's made them negligent, or that Bush was trying to make sure that no one uncovered the 911 plot before it could be carried out. Right. Alex ever the storyteller would exaggerate this, in his book dissented to tyranny, saying that it told quote, FBI agents as well as defense intelligence officers that if they tried to stop al Qaeda, they would be arrested under national security implications. Basically, this is a document that's used to explain why the plot wasn't uncovered within the conspiracy narrative worldview, right, but it's also bullshit. The document itself is from 1996. So Bush has nothing to do with it. And there's no reason to even assume that Clinton did either. It's a narrow FBI document reflecting a closing of an investigation into one Osama's family members, Abdullah bin Laden, who was under scrutiny because of his association with the world assembly of Muslim youth, the document itself doesn't even reflect in order to not investigate Abdullah, it just says, Is that the case that was involved? It opened in February 1996. And it closed that September. So they were saying no, Whammies? Right. No weenies. No, me. The implication that this relates to in order to not investigate bin Laden family members or folks from Saudi Arabia comes from Greg Palace coverage of the document, where he claimed that unknown, unnamed sources told him that some unspecified cases were quote, shut down for political reasons, but nothing further is established. And it's just, you know, you take that grain of something that is on sourced specifically from Greg Palast. And Alex will exaggerate from there into being like, all terrorism. If you try and stop it will arrest you.
Jordan (00:27:34.000)
Yeah. So if I understand correctly, the evidence is uncertain on unspecified sources, unnamed sources, giving a third hand account of what may have happened that they don't know.
Dan (00:27:50.000)
And what is an actual, like FBI document? Yeah, that is about the closing of an investigation into one of bin Laden spam.
Jordan (00:27:58.000)
If I remember, am I wrong? Why weren't the bin Laden's richest fuck, like they were connected to all kinds of rich people and
Dan (00:28:05.000)
shit. Yeah, construction. Enterprises. Yeah, Saudi Arabia and whatever. They had all kinds of connections. Yeah. And, look, it's I don't know, some people might think it's naive to think that. A just because you're in the family, it doesn't mean that you have connection with the person who ends up being a terrorist, but maybe they don't know. Maybe it's not involved at all. Yeah, I
Jordan (00:28:27.000)
mean, there's a whole side of my family I haven't spoken to in 20 years, it could have been January 6, could have been a day fucking could have. Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
Dan (00:28:36.000)
The relationship between the Bush family and the bin Laden family is interesting. But what is not is this w 199. I, in my estimation, it's a complete zero. But for Alex, it's a cool specific sounding document number so that explains everything that he needs it to explain. Just trot it out. Just like he has his favorite subsection, just throw these things out to the blind people with the fake specificity.
Jordan (00:29:00.000)
Yeah, and it is kind of fun to say w 199. I whenever you're talking about a conspiracy, yeah, I don't I don't I don't begrudge that. No, no, no, that's that's pretty solid. I would enjoy talking about a document with a name like that as though I had an idea of what it said. Yeah,
Dan (00:29:15.000)
yeah, you should start now. Okay. Say it has something to do with tennis. So Alex is a fake, racist statistic.
Alex Jones (00:29:26.000)
I want to go over criminal aliens abound in the US from the Washington Times how they are the crime wave. Then world that daily chiefs of police border security a sham organization claims lacks federal policies causing murder of cops. Oh, just so happen to have the numbers here from the Washington Times federal numbers that you know that over a third of the cops being killed or being killed by illegal aliens. Cops, I don't care what your superiors telling you. You need to get these criminals off the streets. Damn.
Dan (00:29:56.000)
That statistic that 1/3 of the cops who are killed or kill killed by undocumented immigrants is not in that Washington Times article that Alex is covering. He's made up that stat. The only time murder is even mentioned in that article. It's in this sense, quote, according to figures from 2002 from the former ins and from ice, more than 375,000 known illegal aliens have been ordered deported but have disappeared pending immigration hearings. Washington area sniper Lee Boyd Malveaux was one such alien. Right. So he murdered I remember that. Yeah, I remember that part. It's a long, long walk from what the article says to what Alex is pitching. The website officer down Memorial keeps track and honors the memory of law enforcement officers who have died in the line of duty. In 2002, there were 161 deaths of police on duty 1/3 of that would have to be about like 54 of them were killed by undocumented immigrants. That's wild. That's a lot. Only 57 Total police in the US died from Gunfire that year. And it seems difficult to imagine essentially all of them were immigrants during the shooting. Sure,
Jordan (00:31:02.000)
sure. So the so what we're saying is that, obviously illegal immigrants are not doing all of the shootings. They choose poison. Right. So they are they've got like little bits of cyanide that would have been reflected in a coffee. And those stats, weren't there. No poisoning stats, all right, fine. Number of car
Dan (00:31:21.000)
accidents, a number of medical things, other accidents. Right. You know, it is unfortunate, but it's you know, like when you think about it's not always a hostile murder. It is sad. It is it is unfortunate. You know, I decided that I was going to go through the shootings, just to see get a sense of like, what the circumstances that surrounded them were Yeah. And some of them were, you know, like a cop was trying to stop a robbery at a store. Like that's real talk and said, Yeah, but I didn't find any that were done by undocumented immigrants. I didn't go through all of them because I got bumped out of Sure. Well, yeah.
Jordan (00:31:57.000)
I can't keep going through all these people dying for property.
Dan (00:31:59.000)
Yeah, yeah. But I did find the one case that was of Andrew Mikkel, that your who murdered Officer Daniel. I'm sorry, David Mobilio. In Cold Blood. Well, Mobilio was filling up his tank at a gas station. This guy Andrew Mikkel just shot this cop walked up blammo and then walked back. Mikko left a Gadsden flag next to the murdered man,
Jordan (00:32:22.000)
when you said his politics when you said Mikkel, I kind of thought
Dan (00:32:26.000)
Mikko would end up being caught about a week later after he posted online quote, hello, everyone. My name is Andy, I killed a police officer in Red Bluff, California in a motion to bring attention to and halt the police state tactics that have come to be used throughout our country. Sounds weirdly familiar. Yeah. Alex is made up a terrifying statistic meant to direct the audience's fear, hate and distrust towards the vulnerable population that Alex doesn't like, and which he uses as a political scapegoat. Further, he's claiming that some source backs up his claims when in fact, he's just reading headlines in a nutty as right wing publication for articles. He hasn't even skimmed. Yeah, this is what he does. This is what he's done.
Jordan (00:33:03.000)
Yeah, I just I, you know, I don't think that an argument should last 20 years. You know, like, if your argument is all the borders are collapsing, and that's where the country you know, that's, like that can't last for 20 years. Yeah, it just can't No, we can't have an argument lasted that long. We need an argument to last at most two or three years max, the
Dan (00:33:23.000)
only kind of argument you can really have that last 20 years is like free will or not. Yeah, these
Jordan (00:33:30.000)
endless, honestly said argument shouldn't even be had that argument should take a half hour. Is it real or not?
Dan (00:33:37.000)
Who cares? What if I have the free will to make it last 45 minutes? Yeah. What
Jordan (00:33:40.000)
if you don't who cares? All right.
Dan (00:33:43.000)
So I got excited because I thought Alex was about to do a movie review here because he brings up Supersize Me, but then it ends in a real disappointment.
Alex Jones (00:33:51.000)
Let me just read part of this New York Post article because this dovetails with what I'm about to do. New York Post yesterday. Last February, Morgan Spurlock decided to become a gastronomical guinea pig. His mission to eat three meals a day for 30 days at McDonald's and document the impact on his health scores of cheeseburgers, hundreds of fries and dozens of chocolate shakes lighter. The formerly strapping six to New Yorker who started out a healthy 185 pounds head packed on 25 pounds, but his supersize shape was the least of his problems and a few days of beginning the drive thru diet Spurlock 33 was vomiting out the window his car. This was all documented for a documentary and doctors who examined him were shocked at how rapidly Spurlock's entire body deteriorated. They weren't really crazy my part over the course of 30 days, Spurlock told the post. His liver became toxic his cholesterol shot up from 165 to 30. His libido flag, and he suffered headaches and depression, Spurlock charted his journey from the fit to flab the tongue in cheek documentary, which was released at the Sundance Film Festival in the hopes of getting distribution deal. We'll cover more of it In the next hour, but that dovetails into the next five minutes with Debbie Morrow, my good friend. And then Millennium concepts, not just the food Debbie, what's been keeping me going all these years I mean I get sick maybe once a year is that I don't drink tap water
Dan (00:35:17.000)
is water sponsor
Jordan (00:35:18.000)
super water sponsor? Yep,
Dan (00:35:20.000)
I thought I was gonna get a nice review of Supersize Me that some weird thoughts that Alex has because he probably couldn't like Morgan Spurlock now at the same time he doesn't like McDonald's and that kind of stuff. So I feel like he'd be trapped kind of for his perspective. Yeah. Then it turns out just to be a way to pivot into a, like a sponsored content. Fucking nones.
Jordan (00:35:40.000)
Yeah. See, Lee, look at this guy eaten McDonald's hurting his body. I don't drink tap water. That's because I got good water filters. What? Okay.
Dan (00:35:51.000)
And I was making myself laugh quite a bit. Because I was like, this lady has no chops. She doesn't have any showmanship. He doesn't belong on air. But I was like, Why am I being so mean? She's like the secretary. She has there's no reason for her to be her choice. They're just doing the I don't know. It's it's, it's she seems like a nice like, probably
Jordan (00:36:12.000)
didn't like break into her boss's office kicking the door open. Like I'm doing the radio spot today, boss.
Dan (00:36:18.000)
Yeah, yeah. But it was disappointing. Yeah. So the 2004 election is happening. Sure. It's gearing up. How did it go? Well, at this point, we are now in a position where I think a lot of people understand the carry is probably going to be the nomination. Yeah. For the Democrats. Yeah. And bush. Of course incumbent. So you kind of know where this is going. It's going to be a skull and bones affair. Yeah. So we're gonna get a lot of Scotland bones talk for the next month. All right. But here is a caller asking Alex about the election. And this is this is my guy. This is not the caller. This is when Alex was like, Alright, man. Yeah, you have a brand. All
Alex Jones (00:36:56.000)
right. Jay, in Colorado. Go ahead. Jay.
Caller 2 (793) (00:37:00.000)
I wanted to ask you about the November elections. Really like who who you get to vote
Alex Jones (00:37:07.000)
for like, literally, honestly, there is there is no, let's be honest, there is no presidential election. And I can prove that from multiple directions. Everybody you're given a choice of is controlled. It's the oldest scam in the book, I control the choices in a certain paradigm that I give you a choice from within that controlled outcome, you understand? So it doesn't matter if it's Howard Dean, or John Kerry, he skull and bones or George W. Bush, or Bill Clinton or Al Gore or the Easter Bunny? It's all the same agenda.
Dan (00:37:39.000)
Yep. So that's, that's where he should be.
Jordan (00:37:41.000)
Yeah, that's where you live, man. That's the that's the idea. Yeah,
Dan (00:37:45.000)
that's where that's where things.
Jordan (00:37:48.000)
I mean, that is, but that's the job opportunity. He took, you know, like when when you talk about where his his whole thing came from, like, the reason that he became so popular is because there is a thirst for a voice to be screaming this shit at people because they've watched the transition from Clinton to Bush, the transition from Bush to Clinton, and they've been like, this is the same fucking shit. Nothing different happened. Nobody had any new ideas. Everybody was like, hey, NAFTA is a great idea. And then, you know, like it was it was nuts. Of course, they needed somebody to be like, look at all of these assholes. They were, you know, get rid of all of them. Yeah. And I
Dan (00:38:25.000)
think that Alex can appeal to people on that level. And he speaks to people that he probably shouldn't speak to. Because of this, like, electoral ism is a dead end. Any choice you have isn't a choice that's been made for you in advance, right? That's what he should be. Do you shouldn't be doing this bullshit now where he's talking about DeSantis? Yeah, that's awful. Get out of here, man.
Jordan (00:38:45.000)
He shouldn't be like, there's no difference between Trump and DeSantis.
Dan (00:38:48.000)
He ruined that though, by his whole 2016 affair. Oh, like, it's he can't go back. It's just, he can't go back and be like, that was the one election that mattered. And that's why I acted that way.
Jordan (00:38:57.000)
It does get real sad after that. Yeah. But you can do Yeah, that was the one election that mattered. And it turned out it didn't matter, either. Yeah, yeah. That's brutal.
Dan (00:39:06.000)
So like I said, 28th. We're just going to skip over and we jump in here on the 29th. And I hear a little bird calling me.
Alex Jones (00:39:14.000)
All right. Big Show lined up for you today. You know, back in early 2002. There's a lot of people in the Bush administration that have second homes in Austin. And I got it directly from someone, let's just say very close to the administration, that bin Laden died naturally of kidney failure. When in early 2000 and 204, when laden It was literally on ice to be rolled out right before the election.
Dan (00:39:50.000)
This is Steve. Yeah, this is 100%. Steve,
Jordan (00:39:53.000)
that's a big swing. That's a steep swing.
Dan (00:39:55.000)
I don't know about the part about second homes in Texas, but Alex's first interview with Steve EUV was in April 2002. So that isn't the timeframe that he's talking about. Yep. And Steve was almost certainly pretending to be close to the Bush administration. Why not? He's he was involved with Bush HW. HW bush. So why wouldn't he? He's close to every president.
Jordan (00:40:17.000)
He's claimed to be close to literally everything. Yes, he is the global spider at the at the traveling along the web, depending on where the strings move.
Dan (00:40:27.000)
I hate to feel like I'm one of these like, I don't know. I've never seen the movie. The number 23 Sure. Jim Carrey movie 23. I hate to be like that and see Steve everywhere. Sure, but I see Steve,
Jordan (00:40:39.000)
this is Steve. Yeah, there might as well be a cardboard cutout of Steve that Alex has his face in
Dan (00:40:45.000)
it makes me hope he's around the corner somewhere. He's
Jordan (00:40:47.000)
got to be there. Oh,
Dan (00:40:48.000)
bring Steven.
Jordan (00:40:49.000)
Hey, no, that's the only investigation now that really matters. Where's pitchin? It's
Dan (00:40:53.000)
not really an investigation. Even it's a hope. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously,
Jordan (00:40:58.000)
it's not an investigation. You
Dan (00:40:59.000)
already know where his first interview was. And guess what? April 24 2000. To my birthday. Hey, happy birthday here, Steve. So yeah, bin Laden, long dead.
Alex Jones (00:41:12.000)
Alright, US forces going after bin Laden. Sources planned operation into Pakistan seeks to destroy al Qaeda. Now. I was told by someone let's just say very close. Inside the administration, somebody who's been on Air Force One and heard the giggling jokes about it. That bin Laden is dead died of kidney failure. And his family gets all the big bass contracts and satellite contracts and weapons contracts for the US military over there. And they're on the Carlyle Group and their payment for having their son by the part of the bad guy. He was management CIA since the mid 70s. At least his code name Tim Osman that's publicly admitted
Dan (00:41:56.000)
publicly publicly admitted, publicly admitted. Did you know that? No, Bin Laden's name is Tim Osman.
Jordan (00:42:02.000)
No one has admitted that to me.
Dan (00:42:03.000)
I haven't heard Alex admit that. Yeah, that was weird. Yeah, that's a strange thing. Yeah, that one's new. So the conspiracy theory that bin Laden was actually a CIA agent named Tim Osman traces back to a 2001 article posted in an outlet called the laissez faire city times. This is a convoluted and bizarre story. So I'm gonna do my best just to lay it out as plainly as possible. Okay. This has to do with Ted Gunderson, the FBI agent turned conspiracy lunatic who was part of the McMartin preschool hysteria, and a major driver of the Satanic Panic in the night
Jordan (00:42:33.000)
not enough people know they're all over.
Dan (00:42:37.000)
keep popping up. In 1986 he claims that he and this guy named I'm gonna stumble with his last name, but it's a Michael Riccati skew to recode no skew Ito ricotta scudo. Sure. That's what I'm gonna go. That sounds good. He claims that hit him and this guy, Michael, who would go who ended up going to jail for 20 years on a methamphetamine production and trafficking charge just five years later. Sure. So the two of them met with representatives of the Mujahideen at a Hilton Hotel in Sherman Oaks, California.
Jordan (00:43:07.000)
Okay, okay. I'm understanding that right now. someone's resume went from meeting with the muda Mujahideen to
Dan (00:43:18.000)
meth producer and his resume is even wilder than you could imagine. That's kind of well, there's no straight line between those two now. So here's this Michael guy. He also dabbled in arms deal. Let's see. There we go. So that's why he was there because these weapons stuff for the Mujahideen? Sure. But from the article, I have no idea what Gunderson was doing there. My suspicion is there isn't a good explanation for why he was there because it's all made up. Yeah. Apparently, the two Mujahideen reps were a white guy named Ralph Hallberg and Tim Osman, who is secretly Osama bin Laden. Okay, they were over here just hanging out touring military bases. There's also a side plot about how this Michael guy had figured out how to defy physics and create really tiny nukes
Jordan (00:43:56.000)
we have we that that was in there yet
Dan (00:43:58.000)
really tiny nukes. Okay. Meanwhile, a shady company called the bio rad Corporation had quote, taken over Hercules, California, and we're developing race specific bio weapon that's not very rad at all. It's honestly a whole lot. Yeah, I'm not sure I'm gonna sign off on Alex's assessment that this has been proven or admitted.
Jordan (00:44:15.000)
I don't know. I mean, if there were really tiny nukes, that would be a source of change. So that would be a game changer. It's so small. Imagine how many tiny little nuclear explosions we'd have all that. I mean, I would use those instead of a smoke bomb.
Dan (00:44:29.000)
The way they put it in the article. It was that they made suitcase nukes are irrelevant. Okay. All right. Yeah. I don't think this is proven or admitted. I'm gonna say at best. There's a really such a story that climbs this thing peddled by people who have taught me by the way of their actions to not trust the things they say. Yeah, so I don't think this is
Jordan (00:44:50.000)
yeah, I mean, so okay. How does he get to meth producer? I want to I want to know where meth lab Joe said here.
Dan (00:44:58.000)
Here's what's interesting about this Yeah, he ends up doing quite a bit of time. But he claims that this lab that he had on his property was actually about him like, mining for platinum or something.
Jordan (00:45:09.000)
He that's where Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah.
Dan (00:45:12.000)
Remember there's that follow up episode about the guy who made a sluice?
Jordan (00:45:17.000)
Yeah, no,
Dan (00:45:17.000)
I mean, matter was all about math.
Jordan (00:45:20.000)
That was true. I mean, that's maybe that's my problem. Yeah, maybe I'm going the wrong direction. There is a straight line from meth producer to lying about having been in a room with Ted Gunderson and the MUA Muda. D and
Dan (00:45:32.000)
creating really tiny nooks. Yes.
Jordan (00:45:34.000)
That is a straight line. Yeah, I had it backwards. Yeah. I'm chicken and ageing this in the wrong direction
Dan (00:45:38.000)
as possible. Yeah. So I told you wrestling would come up. And here's where it does. Okay. Alex is in a mood. He's not feeling great. He's bummed out. He's pissed off that everyone's so dumb. Yeah. They're so dumb that they think wrestling is real. And Alex needs to complain about this for quite a while. Boy.
Alex Jones (00:45:57.000)
We WWF wrestling. Show the mind control. Every time I say WWF wrestling is fake. I get threatening emails. I've even gotten calls going How dare you say it's not real? Oh, yes. It's real.
Alex Jones (00:46:14.000)
I've been watching sousaphone urge for dude nuts rule. It's so real.
Alex Jones (00:46:23.000)
And there was outrage on rowdy Piper a few months ago said it's all fake. And, and I went public As if we needed someone to go public. And you're on what are you talking about professional wrestling? Well, professional wrestling is staged. They train for hours every week for the production, the show of the play that they're gonna put on. All right, I mean, in the real world, if you hit somebody 50 times in the face and drop them on their head, their their neck breaks. Believe me, folks, I punch somebody wants and they've been in a coma for three weeks. Okay, you know, I'm not sitting here saying I'm a tough guy. That's why I will not get in fights. But the last two fights I got in, I had punched somebody a couple times. And they you know, they'd be in the hospital with a will on a breathing apparatus for a few weeks. These giant steroid 280 pound people pounding them in the face over and over again, body slamming their head slamming them from the ropes. And you idiots and I'm not talking to my listeners, but the few out there that don't understand. You're the same folks that think Bush is a conservative. You will threaten me and to me emails don't it's real. It's real. It's real. Oh, yeah, folks. I've been in a 32nd fight ended up having my leg broken before. minutes. Problem America as most of you never been in a real fight either. We just got a domesticated jellyfish population.
Dan (00:47:59.000)
Alex is exposing the business. Is that a problem? I don't know. So the whole idea behind this is essentially him saying that like the political like the the election is staged, right? You know, it's like wrestling to people pretending to fight but they're not actually, you know, fighting each other. It's choreographed and what Hey, yeah, but he gets lost in this insulting a fraction of his audience that thinks wrestling is real. Yeah. And it goes on for quite a while. He really seems to be upset about his audience being dumb. Yeah. On this episode. Yeah. Yeah.
Jordan (00:48:33.000)
I mean, it it's and it's, it's like, he seems very impressed with himself for being figuring it out through Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not I listen, I don't remember the era where people did argue about whether or not it was real or quote, unquote, fake. You know, I don't remember that time period. Right.
Dan (00:48:54.000)
I don't think we were alive really, for the hay day. Yeah. And for the
Jordan (00:48:57.000)
like, the genuine feeling behind it. You know, like, when I was growing up the Is it real or fake thing was like, not is the is the, the staging real or fake? Because, obviously, it's fake. You can't do some of those things. You can't do some of those things. Right. But the question was, like, is that pain? And is the hitting real? And that kind of stuff? Or were they doing this this choreography? You know, that was what I remember growing up. I
Dan (00:49:24.000)
think, for me as a child, a lot of my earliest awareness of wrestling, because my parents wouldn't let me watch it. So it came into my life through a friend who watched it and it was around the time of the Attitude Era. Monday night wars. Yeah, sir. And yeah, so there was there was an added element of weirdness to kayfabe at that point, because there was a like, the whole thing with the NWO with Hulk Hogan and Scott Hall and Kevin Nash was that they Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall showed up in WCW. And they pretended that they were invade hang from the WWF. Right. And so there was this weird thing of like, they seem to be causing a lot of trouble. You know, like, and I was 11 or 12.
Jordan (00:50:10.000)
Yeah, no, that's the point. Yeah, that's what wrestling is for. So the kayfabe
Dan (00:50:13.000)
of the like, storyline and stuff was was fairly confusing on that aspect. But as a child, and I pretty easily came to understand from watching it just some things from a physics perspective don't work. Yeah. But But yeah, the thing that I want to point to, though here with Alex, is that he's trying to, in theory, make a metaphor about the political system being like wrestling, right. But he's not doing that. No. In actuality, he's complaining about wrestling. Yes. And some of his audience not knowing that wrestling is is fair. Yes, yeah. And that's weird,
Jordan (00:50:52.000)
because he left the part about where he wants everybody to know that the politics is theater, and then got really focused on the personal issue that some people get mad at him for telling them that wrestling is fake.
Dan (00:51:03.000)
He gets lost very easily. And that's, that's weird. Yeah.
Jordan (00:51:07.000)
The focus should have been like, I'm mad that people aren't awake for the government, not like, swear to God, if somebody tells me that wrestling is real again, I'm gonna be fear. It's like no, remember the the politics? I don't know. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Dan (00:51:21.000)
And he, I mean, he complains a bunch more about wrestlers. But before he does, he complains about how his audience don't know the how radios work.
Alex Jones (00:51:30.000)
Why men believe that's real. And so people say, Well, how could it be staged in a presidential election? You know, how could that happen? That's unbelievable. Yeah, we've got a country that that wrestling is real. And I guess this was built in our minds in John Wayne movies where John Wayne would punch somebody 45 times in a bar, and they just have a bloody nose. You punch somebody 45 times they will die guaranteed if you're really punching somebody. Just again, it's all false reality people don't know. Most people don't don't think about how food gets to the grocery store. How they hear radio shows, I get questions all the time by people. Well, how do I up and listen to you and awesome radio and I heard you and another city 1000 miles away, do you how do you go? Do you live there too? And these are people with businesses and families and I go satellites, satellites. That people don't think how things work. They don't know how many continents they are there are they don't know where Iraq is. They don't know what the bill of rights that they don't know anything, but just mindless idiots. And I'm starting to realize this more and more. And it just scares me to death.
Dan (00:52:55.000)
Who are you talking to?
Jordan (00:52:56.000)
I have no idea. You're on the radio in
Dan (00:52:59.000)
another city. Do you live to what
Jordan (00:53:01.000)
I mean? Here's what I here's what I see. Here's what I see this conversation being somebody is trying to have a polite little small talk conversation with him of like, oh, you know, I kind of don't really know how radio works. Like, you know, I can hear you simultaneously in another city.
Dan (00:53:19.000)
That very well might be is just as likely it's someone who's been lost in the woods since the days of Marcos totally. Like, what is this magical technology?
Jordan (00:53:30.000)
How do they fit the little man in there?
Dan (00:53:33.000)
What are you saying? It must be a time travel? Yeah.
Jordan (00:53:35.000)
It's crazy. It's crazy. It's 2004. This doesn't speak highly of the people he associates with. Also, did we have Worldstar back then most people knew how a fight really kind of went right.
Dan (00:53:47.000)
So Alex is gonna take some calls and he's in a bad mood, and still is complaining about wrestling.
Alex Jones (00:53:54.000)
I don't want to get off into a rant here. I'm in a kind of a bad mood today. You might have picked up on that. I did. Let's go ahead and talk to Ralph and Tennessee Ralph. Go ahead.
Caller 4 (793) (00:54:04.000)
Hey, how you doing Alex?
Alex Jones (00:54:05.000)
Well, I'm a conspiracy theorist because I say professional wrestling is fake.
Caller 4 (793) (00:54:10.000)
Wrestling is nothing but a joke. It's all it is. It's just all read it's a joke it's they know who's gonna win who's gonna lose it's a big bio payoffs you know?
Alex Jones (00:54:20.000)
It's not liberal.
Jordan (00:54:22.000)
Go boy. Fun. What is going on some fantasy stories is fun. Alex doesn't like fun. We went to Lord of the Rings came out at the same time. Are you gonna be like, they knew it. Frodo was gonna. Come on.
Dan (00:54:42.000)
That's just dandy. It's all staged. That's not even God. So we got some more wrestling talk with another caller. And something comes up about Carrie here that I thought was pretty interesting.
Alex Jones (00:54:55.000)
John and mash. Go ahead. Yeah, I
Caller 5 (793) (00:54:58.000)
just got a quick couple questions. Um, as far as Ellen Kerry goes with this whole skeleton bone connection, everything let's call
Alex Jones (00:55:05.000)
him Hulk Hogan, and Bush is the undertaker. That's well once you start calling professional wrestlers or he's Oh, who's the guy that says Stephen, step into a Slim Jen are the
Caller 5 (793) (00:55:20.000)
status five and watch
Alex Jones (00:55:23.000)
professional wrestlers because that's the mentality. Basically,
Caller 5 (793) (00:55:28.000)
I was just gonna say what do you what do you make? I know I mean he has this elite connection with the skull and bones secret society thing but what do you make of his tour of duty in Vietnam?
Alex Jones (00:55:38.000)
What do you say he's not a coward. He didn't run off with a bottle of Jack Daniels and cocaine AWOL for a year and a half from the Texas National Guard.
Caller 5 (793) (00:55:49.000)
Because I just I just found it interesting that he had that connection, but yet he still did that tour of duty.
Alex Jones (00:55:56.000)
Well, I mean, in the past, the elite did send their sons off the war George Sr. Yeah, dead that didn't bail out on his crew. And then then there was big talk on the carrier that he'd be court martialed, but of course he wasn't.
Dan (00:56:06.000)
So the swiftboating hasn't arrived yet Alex hasn't gotten that memo. Yep. Also, you know, who else served our country honorably? Bonesaw was about to say.
Jordan (00:56:19.000)
legitimately, I was legitimately going to bring up Bonesaw like, does he think Bonesaw was real? Because Spider Man didn't actually defeat him in a fair fight. That's
Dan (00:56:28.000)
not true. No, that's not true that it wasn't fair fight was real. It wasn't a fair fight.
Jordan (00:56:32.000)
Can't you both saw couldn't jump on the walls? We Bonesaw is ready. Yeah.
Dan (00:56:37.000)
I think that in this case, the cream does not rise. Yeah. Which doesn't remember much. Oh, man. Oh, boy. Randy said it. Yeah, that's cool.
Jordan (00:56:49.000)
I mean, that's that's terrible wrestling casting even at the time, you should know better that Kerry and bush or not, or none of the bushes. Not Undertaker Kerry's not
Dan (00:56:59.000)
terrible. You might casting macho man his bones. No, that was great cast.
Jordan (00:57:03.000)
That's maybe one of the best parts of that movie.
Dan (00:57:09.000)
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't think I think Alex is just pulling at straws. But it is fascinating to me that he is trying to score points against bushes, a wall surface by saying hey, at least Kerry served. Yeah. When everyone has to know that in a very short order. Yep. The Jerome Corsi and associative Alex's will start pushing a lot of the Swift Boat stuff. So I think we'll see that develop even if we continue down this path.
Jordan (00:57:34.000)
That'd be interesting. You know, I don't remember actively the way that the Swift boating happened, you know, I can only think of it and as the strategy, you know, that like, go for their strength kind of thing instead of fighting their weakness. So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, I'd be interested to hear the narratives again.
Dan (00:57:51.000)
Yeah, I bet there's way more than we even realize two Oh, toes like there's the picture of just like the smearing of carry that we all kind of remember in a vague sense, but I bet there's 100 different side shoots that went nowhere. Totally. So we got a caller, we got another caller. And this guy found a kindred spirit in Alex. Okay. And then he has a critique of John Kerry that I think is a little bit dumb. Malcolm,
Caller 1 (793) (00:58:16.000)
were you calling us from the morning risks in Park, Illinois.
Alex Jones (00:58:20.000)
Now I get to talk to you. Yeah, I'm
Caller 1 (793) (00:58:21.000)
a new listener. I've been listening for a while all of two weeks, and I've already got four or five of my friends, listening to you. Thank you. That's a good feeling to find out that you're not alone, that we're on the chin not nuts. Because when I haven't been researching these types of things in the world, I wonder for about the last 15 years at least. And when I tried to talk to people about it, it tells me I'm nuts. You read too many books. You got too many thoughts run around in
Alex Jones (00:58:50.000)
that you read too many books. We got a reader.
Caller 1 (793) (00:58:55.000)
Bad. I've even been told I'm going to run myself nuts by having too many faults run around the brain. But this guy Carrie, is the strangest looking person I've ever seen. He reminds me of someone in one of these sci fi horror flicks where they have a human alien hybrid. He's just a strange looking guy.
Alex Jones (00:59:20.000)
They're all inbred,
Dan (00:59:21.000)
you might you may have had too many thoughts. Okay, so
Jordan (00:59:24.000)
he looks like he looks weird. Is the criticism that he may be a human alien hybrid? Or is it that he just looks like he could be a human alien
Dan (00:59:34.000)
not developed? I would suspect that it is possible. He's saying that it is possible that he's a human alien hybrid? Sure. But as direct as the criticism ever gets is like, John Kerry guy looks weird.
Jordan (00:59:45.000)
I mean, I suppose like what Yeah, I'd say his head is slightly larger in proportion. Maybe Is that what you would say? Is that why you would go with alien human hybrid because I think it looks like a normal guy
Dan (00:59:56.000)
looks normal enough to me. Yeah. Although I do love the idea of like Wait, are
Jordan (01:00:00.000)
you a human alien hybrid?
Dan (01:00:01.000)
We got to move on okay I like the idea of like some other show that takes itself seriously with the caller like being like Oh man, I've been researching the New World Order forever and then people say that I read too much and this person looks weird All right, got too many thoughts in my head. So the same color we get back to rest coming back
Alex Jones (01:00:27.000)
Malcolm looking at this election is it not WWF wrestling
Caller 1 (793) (01:00:37.000)
used still believe it's real. And we we have these arguments about so mad just laugh and and I don't even contend with him anymore on that. I said, anytime you get a man to wear his throat and 50 pounds, jump up and down in the face of another man and the guy gets up to six that often throws him out of the ring. He was telling me you know, a little bit that's so fake. You know?
Alex Jones (01:01:00.000)
Sean's never been a knockdown drag outs.
Caller 1 (793) (01:01:03.000)
Ever Definitely not. I'm not. I'm not used to say coming up as a kid. But
Alex Jones (01:01:06.000)
I guess that's a good thing. But I mean,
Dan (01:01:10.000)
so we kind of got off track again. Yeah. Because Alex is trying to talk about the metaphor of the election being like wrestling, right. I think I was like, Oh, my 32 year old son still thinks it's real. I bet he doesn't know. I bet the dad just thinks that he does. Because the sun still likes wrestling. And that's the way that the dad rationalizes that, like you're watching this crap. Yeah.
Jordan (01:01:30.000)
The only way you could like this as if you thought it was a real sport, right? You can't possibly like this because it is a theatre production.
Dan (01:01:38.000)
I'm not in kayfabe. So I don't understand it from the outside. Right. Anyway, not productive. Not a whole lot going on. So that guy's
Jordan (01:01:45.000)
point was carry looks weird. And my son doesn't know that wrestling's fake, more or
Dan (01:01:51.000)
less. Yeah. Wow. We got to read her here. Big time. One last clip here, Jordan. Yeah. And like I said, this was really funny to me. This was great. And it's a continuation of something from our last 2004 code. That is frustrating Alex to no end.
Alex Jones (01:02:08.000)
Dave. Go ahead, Dave. Where you calling us from? Hey, Alex, Michigan here. Welcome. Go ahead. Yeah, I
Caller 6 (793) (01:02:14.000)
was looking at my encyclopedia of film. And the movie, I came up with the 1914 Tyrone Power movie called aristocracy.
Alex Jones (01:02:23.000)
This is another movie show we're talking about. The thing? Well, we know
Caller 6 (793) (01:02:27.000)
because in my book, it shows that was the first movie was ever.
Alex Jones (01:02:31.000)
We're not talking about this individual. It did some reason. We talked about this Italian movie showing Moloch worship and then it turns into this Tyrone Power character. Totally separate. What's on your mind, sir. what's on his mind?
Dan (01:02:43.000)
That hopefully for like the next weeks, people just keep calling. This is now like spiraling out of control. Yeah, yeah. It started with a caller who said that he saw this movie from 1915. This Italian silent movie. Yeah. They had Moloch worship and what have you. And Alex wanted a copy. Another guy calls in and he's talking about a Tyrone powers movie. I think that's the name. I don't know. I don't know if it would be. And so it's the wrong movie. But Alex is like, he listened to him for too long before they realize it's the wrong movie. Right. So this caller is calling in with another movie starring that guy. It
Jordan (01:03:18.000)
might be the right movie. Yeah.
Alex Jones (01:03:22.000)
So good.
Jordan (01:03:23.000)
It's like, it's like if IMDb was calling you. Like is this the actor you were looking for? It's shorter than his most notable roles.
Dan (01:03:32.000)
Like in terms of things that are really funny about Alex like these clips that get posted online. Sure. There's a cheap funniness to share. But the real rich, dense funny, you can only find by going through this and listening to Alex's frustration of people bringing up Italian movies from the 1910s. Yeah,
Jordan (01:03:52.000)
you're just not going to, you can't cut that into a clip for Twitter or something. Because that requires you to do something that no Info Wars listener can do, which is follow along with the story over a great length of time. Yeah, there's
Dan (01:04:05.000)
a lot of context. Or you
Jordan (01:04:07.000)
have to, you have to I mean, I guess you have to follow along with the story for a long time, and then slowly collected these clips. Yeah. So later on, you can have a super cut,
Dan (01:04:17.000)
or you have to remember that they
Jordan (01:04:19.000)
happen example and yeah, there's no way to do that. Unless you're I don't know you.
Dan (01:04:24.000)
So we come to the end of this Jordan, and I'm not sure we learned anything too impactful, except for the Tim Osman is I'm sure, and that Alex doesn't know about swiftboating, yet
Jordan (01:04:35.000)
I feel like you're here's what I'm saying about the Tim Osman. Okay. You've got a better story if it's an anagram of Osama bin Laden. Yeah, that's the story is that if you rearrange the letters, then you get Osama bin Laden. That's how you
Dan (01:04:49.000)
think it would work better. Yeah,
Jordan (01:04:51.000)
yeah. Punch up, punch up again.
Dan (01:04:53.000)
You got to work with the materials that you got. That's fair, tiny nuke guy. did what they did, what they got, yep. Now, so I hope you've had a good trip by this point because it'd be the end of your trip if this episode comes out. Yeah, I'll see you when you get back. But until then we have a website. Indeed
Jordan (01:05:09.000)
we do. It's now try.com. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fights.
Dan (01:05:14.000)
We'll be back but until then, I'm Nico. I'm Leo and DCX. Clarke. Wet at Blue Whale. Boo. Oh, you know what? And now here comes the sex robots.
Andy In Kansas (01:05:26.000)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.
