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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)

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Dan (00:00:59.000)

Hey, everybody, welcome back. And I will try to sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are DM Jordan.

Jordan (00:01:09.000)

Dan, I have a quick question for you, sir. So what are your bright spot today?

Dan (00:01:13.000)

My bright spot today Jordan is I went to get a haircut since our last episode looks great. Thank you. It really does. That is not the bright spot. Oh, but it's not bad.

Jordan (00:01:24.000)

Looking at it. Yeah. My bright spot. I

Dan (00:01:25.000)

did a pretty good job. Yeah. But after I had gotten the haircut, no, they got to clean up the hair that's on the ground. Right. And so I see this guy. Yeah. And he's sweeping. And then he pulls out one of those caddies, the Duster. The dustbin. Yeah, that's on a little stick. Yeah, you know

Jordan (00:01:43.000)

what you're talking about?

Dan (00:01:44.000)

Let's just look at this. This is amazing. I saw that. And I thought to myself, I would love one of those. But you can't have one. Or only for visitors.

Jordan (00:01:55.000)

I can't tell you how many times I've taught that exact same thing. Yeah, totally. Think of that all the time? Yeah.

Dan (00:02:09.000)

So for a moment, I was like, yeah, that'd be great. But then I realized like, No, you can't you gotta buy one. Yeah. Oh, I ordered one. It's on the way. And I like because I remember back when I used to work at a movie theater. And you know, like, it was always so much easier to clean the floors at the movie theater than it is at home. And I realized the reason why is it is so awful to bend down with the dustpan and waffle or it's a real hassle to like sweep up a pile and then write out the vacuum and vacuum that right. But you have that dustpan on a stick on the swivel thing. Yeah,

Jordan (00:02:43.000)

that's the stuff.

Dan (00:02:44.000)

Yep. So I have breached the universal law that those can only be at businesses. I

Jordan (00:02:52.000)

do appreciate the idea that I have never once considered one of the I have been bending down like an idiot with one of those triangle. What am I doing? Yeah, it's we have simple machines all over the place. I have a computer. Why do I Why am I using a dustpan?

Dan (00:03:08.000)

Yeah, we both, you know, have that it? I think that probably a lot of people listening will recognize that they had that exact same thought. These are only allowed businesses. Yeah. I think I'm not well off enough to get a robot. Those, whatever those are called the beep beep boop right around

Jordan (00:03:28.000)

the beep boop things. Yeah.

Dan (00:03:31.000)

cleaning robot. Not in the cards, but that's paying on a stick. We can do that. Yeah, that's doable. So what about you? What's your bright spot?

Jordan (00:03:39.000)

My bright spot is the British game show. Only connect. So it's a like a trivia show. Right? But it's not, you have to know an absurd amount of trivia. But what's interesting about the game is that it's about finding the connections between things. So they'll give you like a clue. And then they'll give you another clue. And then we'll have to figure out what connects all four of these things. So that impulse that so many people have towards making up connections, you know, our brains are wired to find connections even if they aren't there. It can be used for good to find out weird strange things like they might play four songs and you'd be like, Oh, in Greek these all start with an eye like it's that kind of level of Yoda. Yeah, how specific you have to be to combine those things. And it just be like three pop songs. And the only an obscene insane person will be like, well, obviously, you translate the title to Greek. And then if you do that, you can see that all four of these are the same thing.

Dan (00:04:37.000)

That sounds like a fun show. It's really interesting. I enjoy it. Yeah. Like to fill that hole of contraption Master. Yeah, that's, I've watched all of that. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Sounds great. It's a great fun. So Jordan today we got an episode to go over. We got some business to take care of. But first I have a question for you. What does Alex Jones Oh my Gotta have in common with Audrey Hepburn in 1953.

Jordan (00:05:04.000)

I'm gonna go with permanent vacation.

Dan (00:05:06.000)

He's on a Roman Holiday. That'd be fun. It's not a holiday though.

Jordan (00:05:13.000)

Well, I was either gonna say that or Breakfast at Tiffany's. So

Dan (00:05:16.000)

he was probably having breakfast somewhere. Yeah. But yeah, he's on vacation. Much like Jim Jarmusch in 1980. But actually he was that one. Yeah. In privately

Jordan (00:05:28.000)

Yeah. Or Chevy Chase. 1980s. Somewhere around there.

Dan (00:05:32.000)

So family vacation got it. National lamp. Yeah. Well,

Jordan (00:05:35.000)

I assume he's taking his family,

Dan (00:05:37.000)

baby. That's actually a good point. are lawyers part of your family? Because he's in hiding? I think that there's something infinitely frustrating about Alex not being on air. But I actually think it's the best thing for him and I don't. Big, big picture and for the world, I think it's exactly what needs to happen. Yeah, it's great. He clearly could not stop himself from further defaming people involved in the Sandy Hook lawsuit, saying that man, maybe Sandy Hook was fake could not stop himself from doing that at all. Yep. He clearly has a lot of business he needs to take care of with his lawyers visa vie. The cases that have already happened, the the illusions about the appeal, right, the bankruptcy process, all of this stuff clearly requires a ton of attention. And he's only going to make things worse for himself if he's on air. So, I mean, he doesn't have a deep bench. There's not a lot of people that can fill in, you can clearly see the drop off in viewership on bamdad video. The episodes were Oh, and toasting. Oh, Alex. Yeah, it's unfortunate. There are some some knocks that are going to come. They know it is what needs to happen. Probably

Jordan (00:06:46.000)

this is when you need a big name signing, you know, this is like when Alex needs to go out and get a get, you know, like, he can't get a star but get somebody on the rise that has some of that, um, you know, some of that judge, because Oh, it's not going to

Dan (00:07:01.000)

do here's actually I think probably where you regret not paying Roger Stone during the downtime.

Jordan (00:07:07.000)

That's a good you know what I mean? That's a good point. He's

Dan (00:07:09.000)

gone on to like Frank speech. And I think he last I heard I believe he's streaming on Nick Fuentes, his platform cozy Damn. Yeah. And so on is the devil, but stone could be the type of person that you maybe get to fill in here. Right. Maybe he has enough cachet. Right. But yeah, I think Alex didn't do enough maintenance of their relationship. And now he's gone off to other places as his primary.

Jordan (00:07:34.000)

Yeah. But well, here's what I'm pitching you. Here's what we'll do. Okay. If I'm Alex, I'm throwing I'm throwing to the four winds. And I'm saying, I will open the pocket book for a stone botanic two man show every day. Three hours stone. Steve, getting it done?

Dan (00:07:55.000)

I would actually. I mean, look, this couldn't take the place of the Alex show. I like your course. No, absolutely. I think that a good show would be Norman Barnes. But only if they actively and openly hate each other as much as they apparently did. That would be good. Like if it was just the two of them yelling at each other. Yeah, I think that could be fun.

Jordan (00:08:13.000)

Like, like, oh, like one of those sports argument shows. But it's just the two of them. And it's about their personal lives. Like they're just their grievances towards each other. Yeah,

Dan (00:08:22.000)

or norm Pattice is comedy workshop. I think it'd be fun. Just talking about jokes is working on

Jordan (00:08:29.000)

that actually could be fun. You've been

Dan (00:08:32.000)

tweeting a lot about Kanye lately. Oh, my guy and I can't I can barely fight the urge to write like, oh should have got woken up, just tweet at him. But I can't engage. But it's no perfect

Jordan (00:08:47.000)

time. Woke insurance would be the moment where woke insurance would have come in handy. Not doing a call back had norm sold. Kanye woke insurance norm would own parlor. That's how big of a claim he's got right

Dan (00:09:03.000)

now. So yeah, we're in a situation where Alex is still at a studio. We have to find things to do. Excellent. And I found something and we'll get down to business on that. Before that though. Let's say hello to somebody walk. Oh, that's great idea. So first, Melissa. Okay. Thank you so much. You're on our policy won't.

Alex Jones (00:09:20.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

Dan (00:09:22.000)

Next Hunter the party. I'd Husky thank you so much. You are now policy walk.

Alex Jones (00:09:26.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Dan (00:09:27.000)

Thank you very much. Next think team think like as much you are now about to walk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank

Jordan (00:09:34.000)

you very much.

Dan (00:09:35.000)

Next, the foundation to repair Alex Jones. His daughter's broken dreams. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:09:41.000)

I'm a policy wonk, thank

Dan (00:09:42.000)

you very much for just 30 cents a day you can send someone to a waterpark.

Jordan (00:09:47.000)

I was gonna say I feel like there's just a an image of an empty pond with no one fishing at any moment. Now.

Dan (00:09:56.000)

This next person gave me a phonetic spelling, but it doesn't help Let me ask you this. How do you pronounce CHKCHK?

Jordan (00:10:05.000)

A phonetic, what is the phonetic?

Dan (00:10:14.000)

I do appreciate ya. That good. Anyway, happy anniversary on each car. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:10:24.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank

Dan (00:10:25.000)

you very much am Samuel Fisher pleasant surprise time bomb. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:10:31.000)

I'm a policy wonk, thank

Jordan (00:10:32.000)

you very much.

Dan (00:10:33.000)

And we got a technocrat in the mix. Jordan, so thank you so much to Joe from Oregon thinks Jordan and I are fucking amazing. And I accept this well earned compliment. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

Alex Jones (00:10:43.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Telling you brilliant someone someone sodomized, sent me a bucket of poop daddy sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser. Little little kitty, baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounced Jesus Christ. Thank

Dan (00:11:03.000)

you so much. You sneaky snake.

Jordan (00:11:05.000)

Yes. Thank you very much compliment

Dan (00:11:06.000)

myself. Did

Jordan (00:11:07.000)

Did Did they force us to accept a compliment? I feel like that is one of the ultimate third rails of our show.

Dan (00:11:15.000)

It's it's conflicting. Yes. Thank you all for saying yes. So Jordan, it's come to my attention. That is oh, we talked a lot about Alex's path towards Trump. Sure. Certainly, we did a number of episodes about it through the 2015 stretch. We've never actually covered Trump's interview on Alex's show.

Jordan (00:11:39.000)

I believe didn't it wasn't the rationale at the time. Like it really wasn't that interesting.

Dan (00:11:45.000)

Wasn't as interesting to the path of Oh, yeah. supporting Trump, right. The thesis? Yes. Yes. That and then, at that time, on our show, you had this standing policy of never listening to Trump's voice. And so there was true also a part of it that that was like, I don't know, I don't want to make Jordan listen to this gonna be a lot. Yeah. And so that was something that was never covered. And while we're there now 740. So maybe, you know, as Alex is on vacation, it might be time to look back. I think it's great to take a peek at this. I will say I turned off this episode. At a certain point. That's fair. And that is because there's a bit of bullshit. There's the Trump interview. There's some other bullshit. Yeah. And then Alex is like, I'm going to interview Lord Monckton, and I say it's click No, thanks. Yeah, no, thank you. I'm not really all that interested in that weirdo. Yeah. I mean, it's just gonna be like, Oh, climate change isn't real. Look at me. I'm weird. Yeah,

Jordan (00:12:46.000)

on the day today that the UN has put out a report being like, remember when we said 2030, it's now tomorrow. 30. Faster. I don't want to hear somebody deny climate change.

Dan (00:12:59.000)

You know how we said 2030 That was actually military time.

Jordan (00:13:03.000)

32 Nights.

Dan (00:13:06.000)

So yeah, Lord Monckton, good. Go parachute back into a UN conference for publicity scan the fuck out of here. But we are gonna take a little bit of time to look at this episode. So one of the things that's really fun, is that at the beginning of the episode, Alex will not say who the guest is. Okay. All right. And he really prepared for this.

Alex Jones (00:13:29.000)

And I don't normally spend three hours writing questions like I did last night. Last week, this interview was supposedly happening today, but as it neared, and as we talked to his people, and as all they got set up, got pretty excited that I'm gonna let the Drudge Report tell folks in about 15 minutes who's coming on the show. Now the thing is Skype testing on the road is always a hassle. So that's going on right now as we speak with them. So I'd rather be in there monkeying around with that to make sure it all happens because the bigger the interview, the more Gremlins snack foods tend to get in the way but that's not something I'm particularly worried about here today. This will be an important interview, not just for this broadcast, the liberty movement, but the questions that will be asked are going to be very, very important and we'll definitely have an effect on a lot of things happening on the planet.

Dan (00:14:22.000)

Gremlins snack foods.

Jordan (00:14:24.000)

You don't want any Gremlin snack foods.

Dan (00:14:26.000)

No, certainly not now by you so much worse than a regular snack.

Jordan (00:14:29.000)

Yeah, you do want Gremlins to snap Foos. That's slightly funnier.

Dan (00:14:33.000)

You want the Gremlins to commit snafu? Yes, they want they want you want their situation. Yeah, yeah, that was normal. Right? We all fucked

Jordan (00:14:42.000)

Yeah, they need to become like spiders, right? Yeah.

Dan (00:14:46.000)

Um, so he's not saying who the interviewer is. But it's big. We know. Yeah. And Alex knows. Of course,

Jordan (00:14:54.000)

he spent so much time preparing boys three hours

Dan (00:14:57.000)

preparing

Jordan (00:14:58.000)

what could you what what Could you possibly think of in terms of questions for Donald Trump in an hour that you wouldn't have in three hours? Do you know what I'm saying?

Dan (00:15:08.000)

does not know what any preparation No. But here's where things get a little bit shady. Pretty quick. As it turns out, all or at least almost all of the headlines that Alex covers in the lead up to before the interview happens are about how great Trump of course they are. So here course there is one of them. Okay, Trump was

Alex Jones (00:15:33.000)

right video describes how Jersey City Muslims held pre planned 911 A rooftop celebrations. I remember this at the time. So actually had the crew go dig around. We found a Washington Post about at first Trump tweeted it last weekend.

Dan (00:15:48.000)

So the Trump has not vindicated on this, but we'll get to that a little bit later. But yeah, that's one of the big news items. Jared, this is being presented a without the context of Trump will be on later this is just the news. Oh my God, that's to be in the news.

Jordan (00:16:02.000)

That is that is almost like a winking easter egg type thing, while at the same time being so sycophantic that it is, it's like, it hurts like it hurts my heart.

Dan (00:16:13.000)

And it's not it's not the only headline Trump, Trump was.

Alex Jones (00:16:17.000)

Donald Trump dares to say that Turkey looks like they're on the side of ISIS. Well, it's been proven.

Dan (00:16:23.000)

Okay. Well, here's another headline. All right, Turkeys working with ISIS. Trump is proving that

Jordan (00:16:27.000)

Trump was right. And Trump is right. In case you were wondering, Trump is right about everything. Ah, yeah.

Dan (00:16:33.000)

So we got we got a show. Quite a setup. Yeah, you know, we've got Trump is going to be coming on, although, you know, this isn't going to be isn't

Jordan (00:16:42.000)

a big guest. Sure. The DD door, metaphorically speaking is on watch is what we're saying right here. Yeah.

Dan (00:16:51.000)

And David Knight gonna be hosting the fourth hour, you better believe he's going to be talking about this interview. Yeah, on the fourth hour, absolutely. We got to tease the fourth hour that we'll be talking about the interview that we're about to do. That's too crazy. David knight will

Alex Jones (00:17:05.000)

be hosting in the fourth hour today. And I will assure you he will be talking about the guests we have joining us in about 17 minutes from now that will be the fourth hour we will be repairing parts of the interview. And obviously covering news coverage of the interview that is coming up and at the start of the next segment, I will tell you, Well, I will direct you to drudge report.com here in the next six, seven minutes with a link that will take him the audio and video feed where you can obviously see and hear that interview and share that link with friends and family. So they can tune in and hear what's talked about because it's not just going to be a big interview. Because this person's basically the biggest interview you can get in the world right now. It's because this individual will be on this show. And so it's like a chemistry set. You add those two ingredients together. It's called explosive. And the individual coming on knows full well. That's why this has been done.

Dan (00:18:08.000)

So we're doing this to be explosive. Cool, but also this is preemptively. Offensively, navel gazing. Yeah. Like, we haven't done the interview yet. Right. But holy shit. Will we be covering the people responding to the interview that we're about to do?

Jordan (00:18:25.000)

Yeah, you know, I mean, I feel like what we're listening to would if it weren't Trump be so foolish shit. You know, like, Fine, I guess. Stop your window, pull the windows down. Tell everybody to turn it down. Infowars get on right there.

Dan (00:18:42.000)

Alex has certainly done that in lesser context, of course.

Jordan (00:18:44.000)

But because this is Trump, I think what it is so very clear how these two know how to game the media for their own. I mean, it's just so obvious. Well, to the point. I mean, it's crazy. It's obvious and crass. But I mean, to the point where Alex is already got the headlines written that they're going to write, you know, like, this is one of those few moments where Trump and Alex both were like, if we're gonna do this, and then you write the headlines before they're they're dropped. They're going to be what you think they're going to be yeah, there's

Dan (00:19:19.000)

a media savviness to it that they're clearly indicating awareness. Yeah.

Jordan (00:19:24.000)

Yeah.

Dan (00:19:25.000)

Like, I I'm fascinated by the way that Alex seems to be reassuring the audience that they will cover the coverage, their own it's yeah, it's we Yeah, no shit. Yeah, we're not gonna come away. That's why you're doing. But also, shouldn't we be more interested in the interview itself, as opposed to David Knight covering the backlash to the interview?

Jordan (00:19:51.000)

I think I think it would be a situation where if if that was the interview happening on nine 11 David knight would still cover the interview and not Well, it

Dan (00:20:05.000)

seems like they have equal measure. Right to the interview itself and how people are gonna respond to the interview. Yeah. And prior to the interview happening, that's a strange way to be entering things.

Jordan (00:20:17.000)

Yeah. But it is. It is so clear, though, that they're like, no one cares what we say. This is not about we're going to say something of any value, that what's real is your on this show. And by doing that, we know what's going to happen. People

Dan (00:20:34.000)

are going to respond, and it's going to be explosive. Exactly. Yeah. So Trump's ahead in the polls. And also all these headlines, like I said, all just Trump headlines.

Alex Jones (00:20:44.000)

Well, there's a headline at drudge report.com. Here, TV viewer radio report.com 60 days to Iowa, Trump dominates in every major poll, despite the fact that we're seeing push polls, and headlines saying, Trump's lead drops, we just keep hearing that for the last few months. This is a clear attempt to drive down his poll numbers. And that's why he keeps surging in the polls.

Dan (00:21:13.000)

This is maybe sketchy. When you know that Trump is about to come on the show. And you're not disclosing that while you cover this as news. Yeah, yeah, that seems like a full disclosure kind of thing. You need to write the I don't know, I find this to be a little weird. If we

Jordan (00:21:31.000)

were talking about a real news show. If they were to do this, it would be disgraceful.

Dan (00:21:37.000)

Well, they might not have to mention like a also this person's coming up. But yeah, I think that the interview would be advertised. So everyone tuning in, would know that the person was going to be on the show, right? Because otherwise, this feels like apropos of nothing. Here's all these great Trump headlines. But

Jordan (00:21:53.000)

that's, that's what's so clear about it, though, is again, they know that nothing about what they say is going to have it. What do we have to say, we don't have words that make sense to each other. We're just gonna go back at each other. And then what's important, though, is that people are going to say stuff about it,

Dan (00:22:11.000)

there is a little bit less bad than you think probably interesting. Well, I think that we have a 2022 understanding of Trump and his communication. And it is really bizarre to like, see this in 2015? Like, he does communicate a bit more coherently. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. He's a little bit all over the place. Still, there's a speediness to his like, and some disconnected thoughts on what have you been like, compared to what you see these rallies now? Like? It's a little it's quite different.

Jordan (00:22:39.000)

You know, being president does take its toll on everybody. Yeah,

Dan (00:22:43.000)

it manifests in different ways. Yeah. So the news has broken of Alex's interview, he's given the exclusive to the Drudge Report, because, of course, of course.

Alex Jones (00:22:55.000)

Now, if you go to drudge report.com, right up in the left hand side, right there corner, Trump set for Alex Jones radio developing, and Donald Trump is scheduled to be on with us. We're connecting here in about five minutes at Trump Tower in New York City to be joining us live on air and drudge report.com in the upper left hand corner. Has that link.

Dan (00:23:18.000)

So yeah, the the news of the interview is as important as the interview Yeah, it's very it's very strange dynamic. Yeah.

Jordan (00:23:26.000)

Yeah. I mean, but that's that's one of those things where I you if it's so obvious what they want, I feel like the entire media structure has to be like, no, no, you know, everybody has to agree that this this is just we're not going to be treated like this you know, like, because if they're going to exploit you, so obviously they're going to say it on air before you do the thing that they're going to make you do right then fucking you are you're the loser you're the mark

Dan (00:23:59.000)

but to me that is such a difficult line because like I know what you're saying but at the same time, how do you not bring up that someone who is running for president was on fucking Info Wars? You know, like, how do you not cover that? It's the same thing like for us were like Marjorie Taylor Greene was on with Alex and like they were joking around about how she should run for president. Yeah, it's like oh, this is stupid. It's obviously like, a ploy for attention and what have you break How do you not talk about the very violently rhetorical member of Congress is on Infowars right now with some the original regularity on Infowars Yeah, that is relevant. But yeah, it's it's the how do you talk about this stuff without playing into the game of giving them the attention that they so clearly are desperately seeking? Yes, sprit Lee seek and I'm not sure exactly what you do, but you can do that. Yeah. I don't think that coverage of Alex haven't Trump on necessarily achieved that.

Jordan (00:25:05.000)

No, no, let's, let's say that as far as the past is concerned, no one's getting off late. You know, like, let's not worry too much about exact a portion. And let's just say that everything that happened over the past, say 10 years, we all need to fix some shit.

Dan (00:25:21.000)

Some get off lighter than others, but damn, yeah, so Alex introduces Trump and boy, it's a big ask kissy. But if you pay attention, it feels a little bit like the way that Alex can talk about Trump is like, it's really about me. This is about myself. Of course,

Alex Jones (00:25:39.000)

Donald Trump is our guests, ladies and gentlemen, for the next 30 minutes or so. And obviously, he is a maverick. He's an original, he tells it like it is. doesn't read off teleprompter. In either July. He's self made. This whole media operation that reaches 20 million people a week worldwide, conservatively, self made. That's why I'm so excited. And he joins us from Trump Tower. In New York City. He is the leading 2016 Republican presidential contender. Donald Trump, again, joins us and I got so many questions. But first off, Donald, thank you for joining us.

Donald Trump (00:26:14.000)

Thank you, Alex. Great, great to be with you.

Jordan (00:26:17.000)

Great. Yeah, great. All right. It's great stuff.

Dan (00:26:21.000)

Yeah, there's a the way in to talk about Trump's achievements is like they're also similar to the achievements of me.

Jordan (00:26:27.000)

There's only one way to say this guy's great. I'm great. And this

Dan (00:26:32.000)

is why I'm excited to talk to him because he reminds me of me.

Jordan (00:26:36.000)

He's like an old me. I doesn't talk

Dan (00:26:39.000)

to teleprompters. Neither do I. Not really, not really, again. Not really. Yeah, we both pretend to be self made. And we both talk a lot of shit. We're both

Jordan (00:26:49.000)

malignant narcissists.

Dan (00:26:51.000)

It's fun. Yeah. So we get to into this interview by talking about the ways in which Trump was vindicated. And of course, we talked about the celebrations of 911. Sure, and this comes up, and that's just all load of shit.

Donald Trump (00:27:06.000)

So I know what happened. And I held my line, and people wanted me to apologize. And we can't do that people like you. And I can't do that so easily. Now we can do it. If we're wrong, Alex, you apologize. I apologize if I was wrong, but they were celebrating and they were celebrating the fall of the World Trade Center. I think that's disgraceful. It is, and

Alex Jones (00:27:25.000)

that same week, you were reporting on that fact. We had two different international football games, soccer games, with the Turkish bands and others during the moment of silence for the dead people in Paris, chanting Allah Akbar and booing. So did that not happen too?

Donald Trump (00:27:42.000)

Well, that happened. And everybody saw it. That was a week ago. And the players were out on the field and they couldn't believe it. They were embarrassed. They didn't know what to do the coach and the managers. They all apologized, but it happened look when we have to deal with reality. And you know, it all started because they said we need surveillance. We need proper surveillance. We have people that truly are evil, and they're coming from someplace and you know, sort of where they're coming from at least the vicinity. And I said we need proper surveillance, whether it's a mosque or anyplace else, we have to be surveilled. And we have to see what's coming at us.

Dan (00:28:14.000)

Trump was not vindicated in his claims and people booing at a soccer game or saying Allahu Akbar has nothing to do with the claims that he made. So leave that aside. That's a basically inexplicable, quarter inexplicable. And if you want to say like, during a moment of silence, people shouldn't yell anything. Yeah. And that's fine, but you're making it a little bit targeted here a little bit. So what happened was the Trump said something completely inaccurate. And then instead of admitting that he was wrong, he pretended he'd made a completely different claim altogether. He initially said, quote, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where 1000s and 1000s of people were cheering as the building was coming down. 1000s of people were cheering so something's going on. We've got to find out what it is. a Washington Post article from around 911 does mention unverified claims of small amounts of people allegedly celebrating on a rooftop, but there's no video evidence of this ever happening. Reporters have estimated that it was maybe six to 12 Teenagers quote, but even that is doubtful. So that could be what he's talking about. But he said he saw a video. Anyway, at this point when Alex is interviewing him, the goalposts have completely moved. And now Trump is declaring that he was correct because someone found video of Palestinian celebrating in the occupied West Bank. This is not what Trump had claimed, and what people were saying he was making up. This is the state of things at this point, and Trump is not at all vindicated. Also, Alex should be really against Trump's idea of surveilling mosques. That seems wildly against Alex's principles about freedom of religion and the Fourth Amendment, but I guess he doesn't really care about those things too much when the group being targeted to someone other than himself. And you have Trump essentially arguing for increased surveillance in a way that Alex would decry. Is tyranny in any other context? And instead of giving any pushback, he's just right along with Trump in it, and that's not not, he should have stayed up for hours preparing his questions and maybe stealing his resolve to be able to push back in this setting.

Jordan (00:30:18.000)

You know, it like whenever I hear Trump speak, I feel like, what I'm what I'm experiencing is like a test for a time traveler. Like, here's what happened, okay, a time traveler went back in time, and saw Trump talk. And they was like, well, there's no reason to worry about this asshole, this guy is clearly not going to cause problems. He's just a moron that everybody will be able to see through such clear bullshit, everyone can see through clear bullshit. It's transparent. Right? But then he goes back to the future. And it turns out, Trump did everything they did, should they let it stay as a training exercise for all future time traveling to suspension? So they're like, listen, here's what you think you think this guy can't hurt you? They can.

Dan (00:31:06.000)

That's why we travel, fuck these time travel. What are they doing?

Jordan (00:31:10.000)

I don't know, I didn't start the agency bad.

Dan (00:31:14.000)

They need to go back in time and fix. Right, solve this training exercise.

Jordan (00:31:18.000)

Big, but then they'd have to make another training exercise. That's the problem with walking around with time. No.

Dan (00:31:25.000)

So what do you think Trump thinks the number one problem is? Oh, my God,

Jordan (00:31:30.000)

I beat you. It's got to be in immigration or borders or

Dan (00:31:33.000)

something? Yeah, it's related to that. Yeah. But it's essentially, that non white people, Muslims want to blow up cities.

Donald Trump (00:31:40.000)

You know, when you look at what's going on, you have a president that doesn't even want to talk about, you know, the radical Muslim stuff. He doesn't want to mention the word. He doesn't want to say it. But you look at what's happening, where we have a president that's over there celebrating global warming and trying to get everybody excited about global warming. Like that's our number one problem. He considers that to be our number one problem. And our number one problem is what's going on with it went to blow up our cities and they want to blow up our country. That's our number one problem.

Alex Jones (00:32:09.000)

And then our number two problem is crippled America, your number one New York Times bestseller and talk about that in a few minutes.

Dan (00:32:14.000)

Wait, his book is our number one probably what just happened?

Jordan (00:32:17.000)

What the fuck just happened there?

Dan (00:32:19.000)

Well, I've brought this up before and that is that like this appearance on Alex's show has to also be understood through the prism of Trump was on book sale. Yeah, of course campaign at this time, right. And so this is also a promotional stop for him to push his book. Sure. And so Alex does do his job at a certain rate, a number of times where he brings up the book in order to try and sell it

Jordan (00:32:45.000)

right. But I'm standing on the sidewalk and a Segway just slammed into me and knocked me to the ground. And then I'm in the middle of the street. That's what just happened there.

Dan (00:32:53.000)

I pride myself on segways I sometimes do some pretty good work for I've given you many accomplished not all of them land. There are some that are the you know, true. No one's perfect. But she

Jordan (00:33:05.000)

said the number two

Dan (00:33:07.000)

was unfortunate. the phrasing of that there is that? Yeah, I don't think the alleged plans of Muslims to blow up our country is the number one problem and two problem is

Jordan (00:33:20.000)

your book is shit. That's the number two problem. Trump Yeah.

Dan (00:33:25.000)

So yeah, Trump. He wrote another book too, though. Oh, I'm sure he did. So many books. Yeah, depend. And this one, this should also infuriate Alex.

Donald Trump (00:33:36.000)

Well, I was right about that. I was right in saying and a book that I wrote, you covered it really nicely. I appreciate it. But I've wrote a very political book years ago in the year 2000, the America we deserve. And I said that book that we better be careful with this guy named Osama bin Laden. I mean, I really study this stuff. I really find it very interesting. And even though I'm a businessman, I find it I've always had, I always had been involved in politics, I said, we better be careful with Osama bin Laden, there's a guy named Osama bin Laden, nobody really knew who he was. But he was nasty. He was saying really nasty things about our country and what he wants to do to it. And I wrote the book, 2002 years before the World Trade Center came down, I talked about Osama bin Laden, you better take him out, he's gonna grow under a rock, you better take them out. And now people are seeing that the same, you know, Trump predicted Osama bin Laden, which actually is true. And then two years later, a year and a half later, he knocked down the World Trade Center. And I talked about terrorism and that that was before terrorism, as we know it today. I said, We'd better be careful, that's gonna happen. It's gonna be a big thing. And it certainly is a big thing. So

Dan (00:34:37.000)

naturally, this is all bullshit. Bin Laden was a well known quantity. By the time Trump put out this book in January 2000, mostly because he was an international terrorism leader and he bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. Why is

Jordan (00:34:50.000)

it that everyone just pretends that he hadn't already bombed the same place?

Dan (00:34:55.000)

Trump's claim that he was a little known figure is absurd. It is insane. Oh, also factcheck reviewed Trump's book and he didn't say any of this shit. And this is the only mention he makes of bin Laden in the entire book. Quote, instead of one looming crisis hanging over us, we face a bewildering series of smaller crises, Flashpoint standoffs, and hotspots. We're not playing the chess game to end all chess games anymore. We're playing tournament chess, one master against many rivals. One day, we're all assuming that Iraq is under control. The UN inspectors have done their work, everything's fine, not to worry. The next day the bombings begin. One day we're told that shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden is public enemy number one and the US jet fighters lay waste to his camp and Afghanistan, he escapes back under some rock and a few new cycles later, it's on to a new enemy and a new crisis that does his mention of zampa. aids may be lying about the context in this interview,

Jordan (00:35:53.000)

I don't I don't understand fundamentally, how a human being could listen to someone as insane as Trump say, if people had listened to me, we would have stopped 911 and not go, Oh, that guy's insane. Ah, how I don't get it. I just don't understand any way that you could listen to that man say that he could have stopped 911 If everybody just listened to him and think, Oh, that's not an insane person that needs to go away for a long time.

Dan (00:36:23.000)

Spoiler alert, Ted Nugent is on later. And maybe did he predict 911 But maybe he implies that he could have stopped.

Jordan (00:36:32.000)

There we go. There we go. Okay. All right.

Dan (00:36:35.000)

Yeah, these guys all sudden, man. So there's another problem here. Beyond Trump just being full of shit about his book. Alex should strongly disagree with Trump's prediction. Alex doesn't think that bin Laden was the mastermind of 911. And if anything, Trump making this kind of prediction should be evidence that he was in on the attempt to set up Bin Laden as the villain after the globalists did 911. Of course, none of this is addressed. And Trump's ridiculous claim that nobody really knew bin Laden was in 2000 goes on challenge because Alex isn't in the business of actually engaging with anything that Trump says, and how it's clearly contradictory to his pretend worldview.

Jordan (00:37:11.000)

I mean, the amount of time that I have spent, like not understanding why we don't continuously talk about how Bin Laden hit the World Trade Centers twice, like, that is the ultimate return to the scene of the crime situation. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't get more the guy bombed at once? And it was like, oh, not enough. Like, you know, it's it doesn't get more than that. And yet people are still like, 911. All the time. Any terrorism has ever happened. Right? You know, well, like what are we doing here? Sure.

Dan (00:37:47.000)

Sure. And I think it's important as part of the contextualize of of the story. And it also undercuts a lot of this, like, how could How could anybody have possibly even talked about in law? No way. Yeah, right. But but the reality is, though, to what it is exploiting is that it is fair enough to say that prior to 911, Osama bin Laden wasn't necessarily a name that was on everybody's tongue. Sure. It wasn't somebody who was a household name that everybody was talking about. Yeah. But it's like that's the exploit exploiting of that to claim that no one knew who he was, or he was like, an obscure figure is just ridiculous, right? Yeah, that's, that's, it's a fun game. Yep. So Alex brings up that Trump knows Putin.

Jordan (00:38:35.000)

Sure. This is good news to now in 2022. Sure, yeah.

Dan (00:38:40.000)

It's not really well explored. But there is something that that does, it is probably a large part of the interview that I didn't cut as many clips of and that is the Trump wants to take the fucking oil from the Middle East. And failing that he wants to bomb the oil fields. So people that he doesn't like can't make money off. So that that is touched on. That's real politic, you know.

Donald Trump (00:39:04.000)

Two years ago, Alex, that's the only problem.

Alex Jones (00:39:06.000)

Trump joins us live. Can you speak to as president? What your relationship with me with foreign leaders and what you know about Vladimir Putin, because all I know is why are we starting a fight with Russia when they're not doing anything to us?

Donald Trump (00:39:19.000)

Right, well, number one, and just to finish on the elbow, I say hit the elbow, we should keep the oil. In other words, we should keep we'll get ExxonMobil they'll go in we'll get other of our oil companies. We'll get some of the great oil companies. We believe that we should keep to you know the old days to the victor belong the spoils, right. We don't have that we go in we fight a war and we leave we get nothing except we get debt. And we get deficit. That's all we get. I think I get along great with baseball. I mean, I will probably get along well with him. And if I don't somebody else will and who knows. You know, he's a difficult one. He's company smart. I was on the show. 60 minutes with him recently. Not together. I mean, we they did him and they profiled me at the same show, which was we were stablemates, right, but I think I'd get on I'm very well with him, I think and to find

Dan (00:40:02.000)

that he's a tough cookie, but she'll probably get along with him or someone else will, man. Yeah. And I think that's a non answer answer. It seems more important than Trump, you know, really was at that time obsessed with the idea of pillage. Yeah. Yeah. Or of country's riches.

Jordan (00:40:20.000)

Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's a real, that's a real like, oh, you're a small boy, you're very small boy. If you think that Viking times are the pinnacle of civilization,

Dan (00:40:31.000)

well to like the the premise of the Iraq War, ostensibly, is that like, you know, you had this tyrant who was in power. Yeah. And so we're helping overthrow this tyrant in order to bring a democratic state into existence radically and remove a threat to regional neighbors and world stability as a whole turkey airily. That mission is not served by stealing all of their resources. Right? That seems like something else. It seems counter to the stated idea.

Jordan (00:41:05.000)

Yeah. I mean, he might as well be like, what I'd like to do is turn the region into glass, and then we will all have somewhere to I escaped,

Dan (00:41:14.000)

it would really serve the people who were trying to free from this dictatorship if we took their oil.

Jordan (00:41:22.000)

Yeah. It is very much like you understand that the, what are you going to do turn Iraq into the 51st? State? You're like, that's what we're gonna do? Well, you're

Dan (00:41:32.000)

belying and revealing your real lack of concern for the actual people, of course, of the region. Yeah. And that's a little too obvious. There's

Jordan (00:41:40.000)

no after for this plan. There's only they're all dead. Yeah.

Dan (00:41:45.000)

So Alex has some interesting points here. One is that he believes that Trump is a manifestation of this war that's going on behind the scenes, which is the counter counter coup share that Steve Puranic had been talking about at this time, right, which is very reminiscent of proto Q. Q anon ideas that were going around, even before the creation of that whole thing. Yeah, whatever it was, and so Alex expresses this, that Trump is like, you know, these people behind the scenes, the good people in government have brought him in to do this mission. But there's another preoccupation. So Trump is preoccupied with stealing oil, and is preoccupied with, please reassure me that you're not fucking around. Right. Right. Please just tell me that you're not going to Ross Perot this thing? Yeah. And there's, you know, a little bit of dodging of questions.

Alex Jones (00:42:41.000)

And I've talked to not just high level folks that have been in government that are on your team. But separately, people in government currently that say there's an internal war going on, and that you're a manifestation of that. I don't wanna get anything inside baseball with you. But are you really inside baseball? I know now from top people that you actually are for real. And you understand you're in danger. And you understand what you're doing is epic is George Washington level. And you understand that office? I want to tell you right now, can you speak about the war for the soul of this country, this happening right now and really tell people what's happening and commit to people that you won't Ross Perot under death threats and stepped down when you're in the lead? Two months from the election?

Donald Trump (00:43:23.000)

Okay, so let me just tell you, Alex, as you know, I'm leading in every poll nationally, in every poll state, I'm leading in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, the SEC, Texas, I'm leading in Texas, which I love. I love Texas, you know, we were there. Mark Cuban called up he said, Do you want to use the read, I use that we filled it up in three or four days, 20,000 people in Mobile, Alabama, we had 35,000 people we had 20,000 in Oklahoma. I'm so into this, and I'm not into her, you know, I could do other things that I would enjoy doing. To be honest, when you're doing a dangerous mission, we

Alex Jones (00:43:54.000)

understand that. It's not

Donald Trump (00:43:55.000)

an easy thing. But the key is Make America Great Again, we can make America great again. But if you have to suffer through for more, or eight more years of what's gone on in the past, and you know what's going on, just we're being eaten away. It's just eat, it's eating away at our country. And we can make, in my opinion, we can make America greater than ever before. But we have to get going it has to happen. We have to get going. And you know, when you look at the vision, I said, Iraq, you agreed with me on Iraq, I said, hit the oil. I said a lot of things that turned out to be true. 100% true. And I'm given credit, I'm given credit by some people, some people refuse to acknowledge it. You know, they we've used to say no, you've been you've

Alex Jones (00:44:35.000)

been given absolutely on target. So when I'm asking is because the Crossroads we're at right now, though, because you've talked about it. Are we at a crossroads to decide whether this country is done or whether we go to the next level?

Donald Trump (00:44:45.000)

Well, I think this I think that it sadly, I think that if we don't get it right this time, I think this is going to be the most important election our country has ever had. I mean, you have to say George Washington was right to you know, the couple of pretty important elections right but

Dan (00:44:57.000)

the first election for George Ross seemed to like it was pretty much not even it was an election for a vice president but not really for the President.

Jordan (00:45:05.000)

Now everybody was like egging practically forced him to be president. Many times he was like, I don't know if I'm actually a president guy, unless

Dan (00:45:14.000)

you're arguing that like the John Adams being his vice president. Most important, that was not the most important election. But leaving that aside, I don't think the questions answered, you know, like, are you going to Ross Perot it?

Jordan (00:45:29.000)

I haven't decided yet.

Dan (00:45:31.000)

I look, I love these rallies. These are a lot of fun. I've enjoyed this, I could do other things. Certainly the ideas that I'm saying I believe are important. There's no reassurance that Alex is looking for here. It would

Jordan (00:45:46.000)

be it would, I would be interested to know if there was a moment where you could talk to Trump and like, go back time. Travel wise, one more time, if there's a moment where you could talk to Trump and like, early 2016 and just be like, Listen, if you keep campaigning for president, you can do all the rallies all the time, everyone will give you all the adoration that you want. Right? But if you become president, you're gonna be stuck inside that room. Oh, it's gonna be so bad. You're gonna hate that room, man. You don't get adoration.

Dan (00:46:19.000)

People are going to be even more critical. They're gonna be real mad. Yeah, the people around you are gonna think you're a child. If you keep doing rallies, you can talk share the greatest.

Jordan (00:46:29.000)

Yeah, yeah. Because that's what he wanted. Yep. That's what he's always wanted. Yeah.

Dan (00:46:38.000)

I don't know how you would do that necessarily, like, perpetual campaign. But he I mean, he's doing any tribe. As president. He

Jordan (00:46:48.000)

was doing rallies a year into present. He was like, Listen, I am not good at this job thing. Sure. I like it. When people scream at nature.

Dan (00:46:55.000)

If only there was some sort of a middle ground we could have reached where we could have all pretended that he won,

Jordan (00:47:01.000)

we could have put him in a nice little recreate. Yeah, absolutely.

Dan (00:47:07.000)

But yeah, Alex didn't get the reassurance that he was looking for on the parole question. And so he tries to do it again,

Alex Jones (00:47:13.000)

a man in the arena, his new book, and we're gonna talk about the moment is exposing the fact that he's being sabotaged by design. Specifically, I don't want to bring up detractors. And it's a question I had early on that I did more research and Dr. Rogers really do want to save this country where your children and grandchildren live. But let's expand on this. There are certain pundits out there saying you played golf with Bill Clinton. And so you know, you you have to do business in New York. She said nice things about Hillary, I get even your enemies closer when you're not dealing politics. I get it. I understand. I think that's what you did. But But tell us specifically. And I don't think this now I've seen it, I know you're for real, you wouldn't be saying the things you're doing. They're scared of you the whole system's coming out against you, but promise us that you're not going to prop out that the key moment, keeping all the other Republicans out of view. And then Hillary racist had or, or Jeb Bush does, because as you know, folks are claiming you're a Clinton operative.

Donald Trump (00:48:10.000)

I've never heard that. I heard it actually a few months ago, but I've hit harder than anybody times 10. If you look at, you know, I was a businessman, you have only been a politician for five months. I hate to use the term because you know,

Dan (00:48:24.000)

you're a statesman. So that wasn't quite a reassurance either, right? But Alex is really desperately just trying to be like, just please like, this is one of the stumbling blocks for the audience. The audience, when I say that, some detractors have said this, I'm saying that this is one of the criticisms that I can't handle. So I need you to do this right, in order to get them over that hurdle.

Jordan (00:48:51.000)

Yeah. I mean, the irony, like, listen, Alex, here's what happens. Okay, when you're a billionaire, if I want something, then I go to a politician, and I pay them to give it to me said that in the debate. Exactly. So it's like, yeah, of course. Of course. I'm, I'm, I am an oligarchy. I'm an above politics. I just want to kill all of you. Like that's, that's insane.

Dan (00:49:14.000)

Yeah. And I mean, Trump says as much I mean, not the killing all Yeah, but the like, I did business. I gotta do the business salary to like, I have to fuck with these people. I

Jordan (00:49:25.000)

didn't all of us just go well, then the system should stop.

Dan (00:49:28.000)

Yeah, it's not this. Great point. Yeah. And something that Alex should maybe push back on based on his worldview? Absolutely. Instead, this is just an acceptable answer.

Donald Trump (00:49:40.000)

One of the magazine's recently told me a world class business and the truth is I did I built an unbelievable company, that tremendous assets tremendous. Not only that iconic assets, very little debt, tremendous cash flow. It's a great company. And by the way, people now see how good when I did the filing everyone said, Oh, he'll never file never file. It's almost 100 pages long. And it's an unbelievable company. So I built it which by the way, the reason I say that that's the kind of thinking our country needs, but I got along great with Clinton, I got along great with Harry Reid, I get along great with everybody. Because when I needed them, I didn't want to have argument. I didn't want to have somebody say, well, Clinton doesn't want to have

Alex Jones (00:50:17.000)

a loser, you don't get in mindless fights, you move forward with your agenda. But now you see America in trouble, and you're heading that's all sideline. Now, Donald Trump's not working for Donald Trump. He wants to work for America.

Donald Trump (00:50:28.000)

Yeah, as a businessman, you couldn't have even functioned. If you don't get an example in New York City is 95% Democrat. I mean, if I didn't get along with the Democrats, I wouldn't have won.

Alex Jones (00:50:38.000)

I mean, you did want the vice president position has come out decades ago, behind the scenes. I know you're Republican. What about libertarianism, what's your view of libertarianism? And then I want to ask you, who's your favorite president? And who do you think your running mate might be folks think it's Ted Cruz.

Dan (00:50:53.000)

So Oh, my God, Alex is like, Alright, you're kind of answering this question. Let me go ahead and finish it off for you. I'm gonna go ahead and answer this question for you. Now. Also, I stayed up for three hours. And one of the questions that I came up with is who's your favorite president? Who's your favorite? And the most obvious question, do you consider it as a running mate?

Jordan (00:51:12.000)

Yeah, I also wrote down sandwiches favorite kind? Yay. Yeah. Between two pieces of bread or outside the bread? Sure. Do you put the meat on the outside and the bread on the inside?

Dan (00:51:25.000)

Out you sandwich

Jordan (00:51:28.000)

or not? That would be a more a substantive debate.

Dan (00:51:33.000)

Most of you like soup?

Jordan (00:51:36.000)

That's a good question. That's a good question. Chili soup. What's the cold soup called? bouillabaisse? Hmm, gazpacho? despacho. Disgusting.

Dan (00:51:47.000)

So we get to no answer on the question of the running mate. Sure. But we do get some rambling around. And then when you learn about the favorite president, keep your you're probably maybe respond with a yell to this? I would, I would ask him to not okay. Because Alex's response to the answer of who is your favorite president is shocking. Okay.

Donald Trump (00:52:08.000)

As far as running mates, it's too soon to say I actually respect a couple of people that are on the stage. Some of them I have absolutely no respect for there have been, I think, not very good at all at what they do. You look at what's going on. But I have respect for a number of people that are on the stage with the respect for a lot of people that are throughout this country poll, you know, political people, optics, somebody, I think that can really be a great Vice President who ultimately has to be a great president, because that's, you know, 90% of that function is, you know, if some thing bad happens, we gotta be good president, you have to view it from that standpoint. And my president in the more or less modern year would be Ronald Reagan. I've always liked him. By the way, he was a Democrat. A lot of people don't know he was of a liberal Democrat, Alex, as you know. And he became a somewhat conservative wouldn't say the most conservative but a somewhat conservative Republican wanted to make America great. And he really did he wanted to make he had actually, let's make America great. That was his and mine is make America great again. So there's a little bit of a difference.

Dan (00:53:08.000)

Alex thinks the Reagan's a secret communist.

Jordan (00:53:10.000)

I was gonna say, what's it's not

Dan (00:53:12.000)

like to mine.

Jordan (00:53:16.000)

Alex, that is I ever heard Alex talk about so many presidents and not once has he been like, you know, Reagan was the best president.

Dan (00:53:24.000)

I understand that. Certainly. He's probably grown in appreciation for Reagan in the last bit. Yeah. But yeah, that's not in line with Alex's sort of regular consistent Yeah, ideology. Yeah.

Jordan (00:53:38.000)

If you view Reagan as being the the Terminator to have ending the New Deal, then I suppose you would grow an appreciation for him as the New Deal continues to disappear. You know, like Reagan's only gaining in popularity, as we all discover that he's dismantled the entire country from the top down, but just brown it's,

Dan (00:53:59.000)

it's a great answer for Trump, I guess. I mean, it's sort of

Jordan (00:54:03.000)

it was for Obama, and it was a great answer for what Bush and it was a great answer. Everybody kept saying

Dan (00:54:09.000)

it's aligned with what you'd expect from Trump. So it's fine. Yeah. But for Alex, who?

Jordan (00:54:15.000)

That's not okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, your favorite president. Eisenhower. No, you can't be like, you can't What's No,

Dan (00:54:25.000)

well, I liked that speech.

Jordan (00:54:28.000)

No, but I mean, he's also the guy at the center of all that. Nevermind. Yeah. And

Dan (00:54:32.000)

he's also a secret communist. Again, yes. All of them. Alex, you're not supposed like any president that's

Jordan (00:54:38.000)

supposed to hear above the left, right paradigm.

Dan (00:54:40.000)

Yep. So Alex, it turns out the path to Trump is complicated. As we discovered there were a lot of clear influences a lot of steep genic influence a lot of Roger Stone influence, but there was one that we didn't account for and that is Alex's 13 year old son wreck Sue

Alex Jones (00:54:59.000)

mice. son My son finally sold me on being a bigger supporter of yours when I liked you love Americana your pure Americana and I'm still gonna was research but my 30 year old son's really smart a lot of research. He watched all the debates and he just really loves you. He is on cloud nine that you're here Rex Jones and it was his question which president was your favorite but all time all time is your favorite?

Donald Trump (00:55:20.000)

Well all time I'd say Ronald Reagan shorter term I would say well you know you look at Lincoln and you look at Washington you have to go with the with the classics right Alex you know you think in terms of the great classics you have to go with the Lincoln's and the Washington's

Alex Jones (00:55:33.000)

I agree with a madman George Washington was better.

Donald Trump (00:55:36.000)

That's what they say. I mean, that's what they say. That's true. Okay. But George Washington was pretty good. But we had some luck. We had some great presidents we have some What

Jordan (00:55:45.000)

are you talking about main

Donald Trump (00:55:46.000)

fires, but we will hopefully be right at the top of that list. We're going to make the country so strong gotta go

Dan (00:55:53.000)

with the class.

Jordan (00:55:55.000)

What a fucking book report that was never finished. Right? You know, my favorite say you gotta go with Pride and Prejudice. That's classic loves that book.

Dan (00:56:04.000)

When you look at presidents you look at Lincoln and Washington. Someone coached accidentally say Jefferson Davis. Yes. Like that. Talk about it's that inspires absolutely no confidence in somebody having opinions about or depth to their feelings about God

Jordan (00:56:23.000)

is totally like you don't know anything about American history whatsoever beyond the lore that you make up in your own brain.

Dan (00:56:30.000)

I think Alex was probably hoping you would say Andrew Jackson.

Jordan (00:56:33.000)

Yeah, that would be the one that makes the most sense. Yeah. On account of they're identical.

Dan (00:56:38.000)

But now just begging him not to say Woodrow Wilson, yeah.

Jordan (00:56:40.000)

The one that made black people hide in the White House. That one is that what No, no, can't do that one. Oh, no, I'm sorry. The classics go with the classics.

Dan (00:56:50.000)

So they take a little moment here to say thank you to a very special person share

Alex Jones (00:56:57.000)

a few more minutes with us. And he brought up you know, somebody that he wanted to take on or that I want to thank on air. He came in here a month ago, he's been on all these big shows. Just an incredible guy I was aware of who he was a patriot fighting communism all over the world. Tell us Mr. Trump about Mr. Stone, who helped get this interview set up?

Donald Trump (00:57:15.000)

Well, Roger is a good guy. And he is a patriot and believes strongly in that strong nation. A lot of the things that that I believe in, in the United States all over television, people like Roger, he's a tough cookie. I will tell you that. But people like him, but he's been so loyal and so wonderful. And he's the one he really wanted me to do this interview. And I'm doing it and so we appreciate it, Roger.

Alex Jones (00:57:38.000)

Well, I knew who he was. But then I did research on him. This guy literally fought communist all the world ran big elections against the Soviet Union, in the in Latin America and Africa and Asia. I mean, they won. And I know he's been friends with you for a long time and advising you so I get my respect level one up even more knowing that you're talking to real political operatives, not not fake pundits that are on TV. And that brings me to mainstream media. A lot of people

Dan (00:58:04.000)

are cookies for Trump. You have cookies. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, Roger.

Jordan (00:58:11.000)

I'm disappointed in all of us on a regular basis, because it appears that the only thing we really want really want and will reward in our politicians is the ability to say nothing for a long time. Sure. Like we love it. When you can say zero you gotta go with the cowards hours of absolute nothing. You said

Dan (00:58:34.000)

to be very rare. I cut out a fair amount of him saying we should bomb oil. See, there we go.

Jordan (00:58:39.000)

Then that's what we talk about. We talk about bombing oil fields we don't talk about. He didn't say any

Dan (00:58:46.000)

words. Well, he was talking about the classics and banking Roger. Sure. given it up for Roger.

Jordan (00:58:52.000)

Big zero. He's done some stuff. He's done some other stuff. I ran operations, apparently. Yeah, sure. Fine.

Dan (00:58:57.000)

I believe that he was more a advisor for dictators. Yeah, that's really more when he was the one

Jordan (00:59:05.000)

that he helped with the Yeah.

Dan (00:59:07.000)

So the here was where the interview ends. And there's, there's some dynamics here. The first is that this clip will include the only thing that people remember this interview, which is Trump saying your reputations. Amazing. Yeah, we'll be talking about in the future, which never happened again, at least publicly. Yeah. But there's also before we get to that, Trump says essentially something along the lines of like, if I don't win, I don't care. Like all right, this whole making America great thing is is wonderful. And if I don't win, I'm just gonna watch TV or give a shit. Call you I'm not gonna make America great unless it involves me winning.

Jordan (00:59:46.000)

That really sounds like somebody who has got civic

Dan (00:59:51.000)

you know what I would say? statesmen Yeah, states

Alex Jones (00:59:53.000)

but what about cripple America? It's a number one you got a big rally tonight. Everywhere you go your crowd just get bigger. I mean, obviously, you're probably going to get the Republican nomination now. Wow. And you're ready for the dirty tricks. If one minute left Donald Trump, what do you have to say about your book? And what's coming up?

Donald Trump (01:00:10.000)

Well, first of all, before the book yours, you mentioned one thing, I had never heard that. But I am in this to win it. I am not in this to say, Oh, gee, I've done a really good job. A reporter called up a very powerful reporter said, How does it feel? How does it feel said it only feels because they said, what we've done is never been done before politically. You know, I've been in default for five months since it came out. I'm number one. I said, it's only good if we went if I did I know when I've wasted a lot of time. That's the way I've been. He said, No, no, you haven't you haven't. I said, believe me, if I don't win, because we can't do anything to make our country great. If I don't win, I'll be watching television someplace. It'll be Forget it. So I wrote a book called crippled America. It's doing fantastic business. I don't know if you can see that thing, right up we can. But it's doing great business, I hope your audience goes out and buys that as Christmas gifts and everything else. And I just want to finish by saying Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down. You will be very, very impressed. I hope. And I think we'll be speaking a lot but you'll be you'll be looking to me and a year and a year or two years. Let's give me a little bit of a time to run things. But a year into office, you'll be saying, Wow, I remember that interview. He said he was gonna do it and he did a great job. You'll be very proud of our country. Well, I'm

Alex Jones (01:01:19.000)

impressed. I mean, you're saying you're fully committed, you know, there's no future and we don't take this country back to Donald Trump. I hope you can help and cripple America. Thank you so much. Sure. You will be attacked for coming on. And we know you know that. Thank you.

Dan (01:01:30.000)

Yeah. So there's, it's it's the tone of this is a little strange. Yeah, definitely a unwillingness to engage with any kind of attempts to make America better unless it involves me winning this presidency. Yeah. Which I think is shallow.

Jordan (01:01:48.000)

I mean, that's, that is like, I feel like any moral system, let's say, I don't know, a big one. Let's go Christianity. If a billionaire were to say, if I'm not the ruler of this country, there's not there's nothing I can do. There's nothing anybody can do. Really, then I feel like maybe you don't believe in that religion at all. Sure.

Dan (01:02:11.000)

And also, I would like to juxtapose this with someone like Bernie Sanders, let's imagine him with his ideas of campaigning, and then being like, if I don't win, nothing.

Jordan (01:02:25.000)

I refuse to believe I'm at the point now where my denial is that Bernie Sanders ever existed I refuse to believe there enough that there was so obviously someone who is right about everything that we should all over are well, the powerful shit all over

Dan (01:02:40.000)

the the comparison I just want to make is the there is still a desire to work to make things better, as best he can, in whatever capacity he can. Regardless of winning, and you have someone like Trump, like, I'll just watch TV or give a shit. Yeah, I mean, like, it should have been that that shouldn't be a problem.

Jordan (01:03:01.000)

Here's here's what, okay, 2016 Bernie loses. Fine. He's he pushed him to the left. We all wanted it, you know, but what you're gonna do, right, right. And then Trump wins. And then we see all the stuff that happens, right? And then Bernie's like, Well, finally, these these idiots are ready, right? And then we still the powerful people still fuck them over. That was the one point where any reasonable person could be justified and being like, Fuck all of you. Fuck all of you. I'm right about everything. They're all taking me down. You're dumb. Fuck all of you. I'm going home. Reasonable. He's still at work.

Dan (01:03:37.000)

Yeah, it's tough to resist the impulse to the given to that nihilism. Yeah, whatever. But it is important to and you can see the Trump has no willingness to or interest in even trying if he can't be the king. Yep. Now the other thing is, you can see, as Alex is going out, one of the primary concerns that he has, is this, like, you're not going to quit. You're not a Clinton shill. Okay. Right. You know, like, really try. That seems to be the primary mission of this interview is just to convince the audience that he's not going to quit six months down the road, whatever, stick around. Yeah, he's not gonna bow out and give the election to Hillary, which is the conspiracy conspiracy

Jordan (01:04:21.000)

is that they're choosing Trump to be the least likable candidate so that the second least likable candidate will finally win like a

Dan (01:04:29.000)

Judas goat. Yeah, exactly, as he is said. So we have some other things that are going to be happening on this episode. And here's one of them.

Alex Jones (01:04:37.000)

Joe Biggs, boo. As you know, I've wanted to go around with these reported jihad, radicalization camps, a lot of them funded by the State Department and other agencies. And we have Infowars investigates American caliphate, they're going to be gone for the next week plus, in Texas, in New York, in Michigan, and in North Carolina and many other states. There's only round one of this The training centers the military training areas, the fenced off areas. So this is going on what the local St. Joe bags is going to be on the first 30 minutes with David Knight of the fourth hour then we will re air in the fourth hour the last 25 minutes will show the Donald Trump interview David knight will be Han shelling and quarterbacking and traffic copping that hour.

Dan (01:05:25.000)

So this is fun because Joe Biggs is currently facing seditious conspiracy charges for his actions on January 6, where he was part of the proud boy leadership they plan to invade the capitol to stop the certification of the 2020 election. Also, this is a little bit before he got into his pizza gate bullshit. also noting is worth noting is that this trip that Biggs went on is something that we actually have some insight into thanks to information relayed by Josh Owens, in his piece in The New York Times, he worked for Infowars and was along for this very trip that's going to be discussed. Here's how he described it to the times. Quote, In December 2015, the day before Jones interviewed Donald Trump still a candidate at the time on his radio show, I made my way to upstate New York on assignment along with a reporter and second cameraman, we were sent to visit Muslim majority communities throughout the United States to investigate what Jones instructed us to call the American caliphate after the California Geiger counter debate debacle that was when they were sent out to get evidence that there was radiation and what have you and it didn't work out. It's very funny. We had meetings with Jones before trips in order to ascertain exactly what he wanted. If we quote hit some home runs, he said we would get significant bonuses. They tried to make contact with folks in a community called Islam Berg, but were turned away because of concerns for security. From Josh's article, quote, because of the conspiracy theories about the place Islam Berg was a constant target of right wing extremists. That April a Tennessee man was arrested and later convicted of plotting to raise a militia to burn Islam Berg's mosque to the ground. Only days before we arrived, the FBI had issued an alert to law enforcement to be on the lookout for a man named John Retimer, a leader of an anti Muslim movement in Arizona who posted a video threatening violence against Muslims less than two weeks earlier. So the phone call we received later that night from a law enforcement agent shouldn't have come as a surprise. The officer who contacted us said he simply wanted to verify who we were after receiving a concern call from somebody in Islaam Burg when he told Jones about it, and he chose to believe the call was a veiled threat and attempt to intimidate us into silence. To him this verified that we were onto something. He even went so far as to include Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York City in the purported conspiracy, claiming he wanted to abolish the Second Amendment and that somehow intimidating us would achieve that. Jones told us to file a story that accused the police of harassment lending credence to the theory that this community contain dangerous potential terrorists. I knew this wasn't the case according to the information we had. We all did. Days before we spoke to the sheriff and the mayor of deposit New York nearby municipality. They both told us the people in his Lomberg were kind, generous neighbors who welcomed the surrounding community into their homes, even celebrating holidays together. The information did not meet our expectations. So we made it up preying on the vulnerable and feeding the prejudices and fears of Jones's audience. We ignored certain facts fabricated others and took situations out of context to fit our narrative. So that's going on right now. Joe Biggs is filing the first report from this clear, fraudulent coverage that was meant intentionally to stoke agitate against Muslim communities. Yep. And you can hear even in Alex's coverage of this video that Biggs is going to be airing that is American caliphate. The framing Yeah, came from Alex himself. And it was like, This is what you're going out to create justification for coverage. Right. And it's pretty sad. It's pretty sad. Yeah. It's the same day that Trump is on the show. Yeah,

Jordan (01:09:09.000)

that's what a Don Salazar calls research. Coincidence? Yeah. That coincident doesn't jive with me. Sure. Yeah.

Dan (01:09:17.000)

So this is just a weird thing that happens. Alex gets up in his head talking about his childhood violence and possibly murders. What?

Alex Jones (01:09:26.000)

I love this species. I'm a fan of humanity. Man. I know about our accomplishment. And I'm sick. All these piles of crap. get in our way. I want you to ROA. I don't like you. I never like bullies. When I was a little kid. I'm a lack of now. And I lost. No exaggeration I was thinking about the other day was probably over 100 fights. I was 1011 12 years old. I lost with guys that were three four years older. But let me tell you, at a certain point, by the time I was about 12, or 13, it mattered there were three years older. I kept pounding their faces in and jumping on them and ramming their head in the ground. until they realize how all the tops of shops might have blood coming out their ears and they'd say, My God, how'd you just beat up this 1617 year old who weighs 230 pounds and you weigh 160 pounds? What's going on with your kid? And I said, listen, they attacked me. And I stood up for myself. Sometimes those bullies when I had their head knocking at the pavement would ask the question. And by the way, these aren't Ben Carson stories, they're a lot worse than I tell you. Everybody knows it. Everybody's got a sixth sense. I tell those bullies I said you wanted to hurt me, don't you get I don't want to hurt you. I want you to get off me. And I want you next time. To leave me alone. And leave other people alone. It's like, I don't want to plagiarize it. But I actually said that to people that get Ender's Game when he kills the cat or beats the kid on they said watching him attack it. I want to come back and

Ted Nugent (01:10:54.000)

I want them to leave me alone.

Alex Jones (01:10:56.000)

What the fuck? You know, I'm back.

Dan (01:10:58.000)

This is unsettling.

Jordan (01:10:59.000)

What the fuck just happened there? Yeah. Did we just turned into a weird trauma situation? What is going on? Yeah,

Dan (01:11:06.000)

this is very, very bizarre. It was wild. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I guess that's a rationalization for why you're slamming someone's head into the concrete because at that point, it's not self defense anymore. Really.

Jordan (01:11:17.000)

So let me try and let me see if I understand this story. Come back. Let me see if I understand this story correctly. Alex has this person's head right slamming it into the ground.

Dan (01:11:28.000)

Apparently, apparently

Jordan (01:11:30.000)

they're like, Oh, hey, wait a sec. Hey, wait, hold up. Why are you doing? Yeah. And then Alex standing over them holding their head in his hand says I want you to get off me. Yeah, gotcha.

Dan (01:11:42.000)

I don't want Well, no, it's I don't want you to come back. I want to kill you. So you can't bribe

Jordan (01:11:47.000)

me again. Right. Right. Which I understand but that was a that was a metaphor in a fictional book.

Dan (01:11:53.000)

Apparently, it's literal and not a Ben Carson story

Jordan (01:11:56.000)

for LOA and it's also made up story still. Yeah.

Dan (01:11:59.000)

And he gets emotional and seems to while it's on the verge of

Jordan (01:12:03.000)

tears, no. Hope gay man.

Dan (01:12:06.000)

unsettling. Yeah. Not good.

Jordan (01:12:09.000)

You don't make me feel good. No big thing about Alex. He does not make me feel good ever.

Dan (01:12:14.000)

No, because like, Okay, I know the genre that this story belongs to and that is the standing up to bullies story. This is a bad version of a standing up to bullies story, because standing up to bullies generally is like they're threatening violence against you. And then maybe you punch the bully. And they're like, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm not gonna pick on you anymore. Point

Jordan (01:12:31.000)

is the violence as a whole stops, right? All of the violence,

Dan (01:12:36.000)

right? Or even like, a great version of the story would be a bully who's picking on you. And you say, I'm not going to take this anymore, and you stand up to them. And then it's just words that are able to defuse the situation perfect. A bad version of it is I'm slamming their head into the concrete and drank to make it so they can't hurt me anymore. Right? That is fucked up.

Jordan (01:12:57.000)

Right. So what happened was this guy was like, ah, your shoes are stupid. And I hate bullies. So I beat his head into the ground repeatedly.

Dan (01:13:06.000)

Yeah. And then this, this illustrates a real lack of understanding of like,

Jordan (01:13:13.000)

who are bullies. Is

Dan (01:13:15.000)

that appropriate? So losing your shit?

Jordan (01:13:19.000)

I mean, let's just say emotional control in any way whatsoever. So yeah, well, yeah, no, it you can't, you can't.

Dan (01:13:29.000)

So this show sucks. We have these things that are going on. In it. We have Alex losing his mind talking about murder. We have the Trump interview, right we have Joe Biggs agitating against moslem, right. And then

Alex Jones (01:13:45.000)

that was Joe bass from an undisclosed location. He's going to be live in the fourth hour today, and they're going to switch different jihadi training camps. In fact, if you see that fence rockin what's one last night, that's where that was shot. This is obviously not very safe to do is we're not announcing where he's at until he's left or where he's going next. We obviously had Donald Trump on dropping bombshells in the last hour and now saving the best until last we have the Motor City madman. The Stranglehold King himself, Ted Nugent, joining us next 20 plus minutes to talk about the state of this country, the state of this world. Ted Nugent, I've got to say that I love to see you as the vice presidential running mate with Donald Trump. There's a lot of bad stuff happening but I can feel the energy the reawakening of America, Liberty rising. I've been very negative in the past and correct me if I'm wrong, but are you not feeling the tectonic explosive volcanic energy, the rebirth of America beginning to happen or am I wrong, Ted Nugent?

Ted Nugent (01:14:47.000)

Well, it's your number one. The truth is so glaring right now the self evident truth, the common sense the logic that you share with everybody on your program, with your voice. I salute you for that but you So here it is December 2015. And the whole world sucks. All right.

Jordan (01:15:05.000)

Okay, great. Okay. Ted, Ted, you are so rich, and you live in the middle of nowhere. And you just go hunting and that what why are you bitching?

Dan (01:15:18.000)

Well, because I do like that, like, everything is, you know, I can feel the title change. And, you know, do you feel this? Do you feel this? Ted? Everything sucks. Yeah. I like that. I don't like hearing Ted.

Jordan (01:15:36.000)

is weird that the President of the United States, the future President of the United States was on this show the same time, Alex had people making up fake stories about jihadi training camp, right. You know, like,

Dan (01:15:52.000)

putting just average citizens at risk, quite frankly,

Jordan (01:15:56.000)

like, that's, that is insane. Yeah. That is, I don't know how to process that Nugent's

Dan (01:16:01.000)

on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do we do? Yeah.

Jordan (01:16:04.000)

Dan, how would this isn't real? Yeah. This is real. It has

Dan (01:16:08.000)

a lot of the similar shades to the Rogen was on 911. Yeah, like it is the like, oh, that same day that Alex interviewed Trump. He had Ted Nugent on? It suggested he should be VP. Yep. And was airing the beginning of his segments where he sent his employees out to lie about Muslim communities. Totally. Yep.

Jordan (01:16:29.000)

Yeah. And that's the I mean, it's just, it's when give when we talk about the past of what we've talked about. This is fake, right? We're, we're asleep. There's something going on. We're gonna wake up in a better situation where it's like, no, no, of course, this wouldn't happen. It's not possible. It's absurd.

Dan (01:16:49.000)

I mean, you're shaking, shaking. So, you know, we have this episode where Trump is on. Clearly Alex spent the time before Trump came on, covering the news, which is just pro Trump had Right, right. Alright. So you kind of think like, we're all in on this Trump guy, right. Ted?

Jordan (01:17:12.000)

Not all the way in? No, he

Dan (01:17:13.000)

likes another Ted. Oh,

Alex Jones (01:17:14.000)

I mean, Obama has been caught trying to set up a caliphate. It's true, why he does want to overthrow this country. And I just wonder, what is your establishment thinking? I mean, I know they're not perfect, but they really want to put bags on our women's heads.

Ted Nugent (01:17:28.000)

Well, you know, I hear hope, coming from Ted Cruz and hope coming from Donald Trump and I occasionally hear hope from Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina. I think there's some great people I don't think there'll be the Michael the Archangel quite yet. I think Ted Cruz will make the best president we may have ever had. I'm not Wow, anyone but I'm,

Alex Jones (01:17:47.000)

I'm blindingly intelligent.

Ted Nugent (01:17:51.000)

Yes. And he's constitutional. He's not a Ted Cruz guy. He's a US constitutional servant.

Dan (01:17:58.000)

Man. They don't like Ted Cruz anymore. Wow. Yeah, that

Jordan (01:18:01.000)

guy that change, the winds can change.

Dan (01:18:05.000)

So quick. Tucker embarrassed him about January 6. But now he is

Jordan (01:18:09.000)

no, no good persona non grata. He

Dan (01:18:13.000)

is frighteningly intelligent, though.

Jordan (01:18:15.000)

Boy, what does it take to scare these people with intelligence? Not much, I don't think yeah, it can't be that much. I

Dan (01:18:26.000)

just think you have to be on their side of the aisle. Right? For sure. Okay. That's a prerequisite. And

Jordan (01:18:31.000)

then what long division?

Dan (01:18:34.000)

Sure. Yeah,

Jordan (01:18:36.000)

I would say so. Yeah, you can do long division. Five, five numbers or more? Yeah, then you've got it. This

Dan (01:18:42.000)

clip might not be all that meaningful. But Alex has some words about the Democrats. And I thought this was bizarre, especially considering on our last episode, we looked at a 2003 episode where Alex was scolding someone for saying damn, yeah,

Ted Nugent (01:18:56.000)

you know, I don't even I can't even think of any Democrats that really look like Americans nowadays. I'm absolutely appalled that anybody would put

Alex Jones (01:19:05.000)

the Democrat leadership and their constituents now more and more literally hate America, and have a death score to settle and want to mount our head on the wall like a trophy when this country and our forebears gave these full death bitches everything they got.

Dan (01:19:21.000)

Whoa, weird. Yeah. Very out of left field. Yeah. But yeah, I guess it's fine now.

Jordan (01:19:30.000)

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have the ring of wet as per se, but I think you could still make a pretty good song out of it.

Dan (01:19:36.000)

Well, years later, this show is no longer required viewing for home schoolers. Apparently. It's totally fine to just let foul language fly.

Jordan (01:19:45.000)

Guess they found out they went back through their demographics and they're like, zero homeschoolers. Wow. Why have we been doing the Muppet Babies version of this?

Dan (01:19:53.000)

Hey, Alex. Let it fly. Yeah, man. So we have one last clip honestly. Because as Ted Nugent talked more, I lost my interest in what was going on. Yeah. And even though David Knight is going to be sheriffing, the Joe Biggs conversation and a re airing of the trumpet. I felt like maybe I'm gonna give that a pass. So this is where I lost all patience whatsoever for this.

Alex Jones (01:20:22.000)

I would love to see you run for president, but I think it's a little late this cycle. Who do you think a Ted Cruz or a Donald Trump should have for vice president and they asked you to run for vice president or maybe the head of the Interior Department, that'd be perfect for you. Would you be part of the government as folks, I wanted to get you involved, because I know a lot of Americans don't want to see you involved in the Department of Interior, so they're not harassing hunters and homesteaders and others.

Ted Nugent (01:20:49.000)

Well, thank you for that endorsement. I appreciate that. And as you probably witnessed on my Facebook with 10s of millions, we hovered between 10 and 34 million Facebook users. And as we get way up there into the millions in the 90 percentile that are asking me to run for president that's, that's an indicator that things are really really bad. Because the author of Wango Tango probably shouldn't be considered for the presidency. But here's

Alex Jones (01:21:17.000)

Let me stop you. I was driving back from Dallas two weeks ago, big ol Billboard at somebody's ranch saying Ted Nugent President saw one in Arkansas six months ago, buddy.

Dan (01:21:27.000)

It's everywhere. It's everywhere. Also, I would say that in terms of like songs that are disqualifying Ted from running for office Wango. Tango is low on that list.

Jordan (01:21:37.000)

Yeah.

Dan (01:21:38.000)

There's a number of other ones about wanting to fuck children, I think maybe are much more of a problem. Yeah, yeah. That I mean, that's one of the things that I think keeps Ted out of maybe consideration for public office the way he would be Visser ated by anybody? He was running the campaign.

Jordan (01:21:58.000)

I don't know, man. I don't know anymore. Yeah, I don't know. Herschel Walker is going to be a Senator who fucking knows. None of it matters. They're all insane. Everything's over. Climate change is here today. Everyone's going down. It's all done. Man.

Dan (01:22:12.000)

I'm basing this on a 2015 mentality. Exactly. Yeah, there's more that goes on in the Department of the Interior. That than just, Hey, get off hunter.

Jordan (01:22:24.000)

I really don't think that they have any clue what the Department of the Interior does. Other than be like, I think that's what the name is on the license.

Dan (01:22:32.000)

Right. It's about the inside. It's about your soul. It's about the grounds. The department of the interior of your heart. Right. Right. Right. So yeah, this? I mean, look, I think that there's a world in an argument to be made that this interview really isn't as consequential as a lot of people build it up to be right, right. There is definitely the fact that it happened is of note, the stuff that goes on in it isn't like it's not necessarily things Trump didn't say other places, right said bomb the oil fields and other contexts, hear him talk shit about all kinds of stuff in other contexts. It's not like, revelatory on that level. But from our perspective, looking at Alex Jones, certainly, it's very clear what his agenda is. In the interview, it's very clear that he's trying to make sure that Trump is actually doing this and actually going to run because it would be kind of dope ish for him to, like, throw his weight behind this person and then them back out and Hillary ends up winning. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, there happened, I guess that's kind of like what he ended up doing with Ron Paul over and over again.

Jordan (01:23:47.000)

I didn't really I wasn't really too, like, aware during the whole Ross Perot run, obviously, because I was very young. But like, looking back the idea of being a Ross Perot supporter, and then he drops out of the race. And you're like, Shit, I was a Ross Perot supporter. And then he just suddenly reappears and he's like, I'm back in it. Maybe that is that's the most disqualifying thing I can think of right just suddenly somebody popping up again.

Dan (01:24:20.000)

feel bad for Ross Perot in some ways. In as much as like, I think anybody who tries to think about Ross Perot can just think about the impression can't do anything about it. Yeah, can't do it. It's somebody whose entire legacy or memory and most of the public eye Yeah, is an impression of him.

Jordan (01:24:38.000)

Yeah, there's, there's there is the church lady, and then there's the Prospero and those are the two things that Dana Carvey has ruined forever.

Dan (01:24:48.000)

How dare you. What about Turtle? Turtle?

Jordan (01:24:51.000)

Turtles? We'll be fine. turtles live longer than Dana Carvey and they'll be gone long after Dana Carvey is God Sure. All right, yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Dan (01:24:59.000)

Yeah, yeah. So, we've come to the end of this, and we have now covered Trump's appearance on it. Check that list done. And yeah, we'll see how long this vacation goes. But we have probably some stuff for next week in the hopper, so like, one way or another will be fine. But if he doesn't come back soon, holy shit, are we going to do a Harrison Smith podcast?

Jordan (01:25:27.000)

Oh, no, absolutely not. Maybe

Unknown Speaker (01:25:28.000)

no, we're

Jordan (01:25:29.000)

gonna stay in the past never coming back to this present.

Dan (01:25:32.000)

What if we try and find out what Harrison Smith was up to in 2003? What if we try and use in middle school? Elementary probably.

Jordan (01:25:41.000)

I think we should try and find out what David Knight was up to in 1982. Okay, that seems like a more interesting question for me was David Knight, some young hotshot somewhere that's kind of what I want to did David Knight bring the heat when he was a younger man.

Dan (01:25:56.000)

I doubt it. And I won a contest to work at Infowars. So I don't think so. It wasn't a heat brigade.

Jordan (01:26:01.000)

God no, no.

Dan (01:26:02.000)

I think he was just a curmudgeonly young libertarian. That's my guess.

Jordan (01:26:08.000)

That's that's gonna be disappointed.

Dan (01:26:10.000)

Well, we'll never know. No, that's true. Anyway, we'll be back Jordan, but until then,

Jordan (01:26:14.000)

we have a website we do. It's knowledge.com. Yep.

Dan (01:26:16.000)

We're also on Twitter.

Jordan (01:26:18.000)

We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge and just go fight tip.

Dan (01:26:20.000)

We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo dz. X clerk. I have a sublet in my mind. Going cheap. You have your own bathroom. Like you don't have your own bathroom. We share a bathroom but you have your own bedrooms out. There's no door though. It's just those beaded doorways.

Jordan (01:26:39.000)

Sure. Sure. Well, that's

Dan (01:26:40.000)

not too bad. stylistic choice. Not too bad. Anyway.

Unknown Speaker (01:26:45.000)

And now here comes the sex robots.

Alex Jones (01:26:47.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.