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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)
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Dan (00:00:59.000)
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
Jordan (00:01:01.000)
I'm Jordan.
Dan (00:01:02.000)
We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Jordan (00:01:06.000)
Oh, indeed we are Dan.
Dan (00:01:08.000)
Jordan
Dan (00:01:09.000)
JorDan
Jordan (00:01:09.000)
Dan
Jordan (00:01:10.000)
Quick question for you.
Dan (00:01:11.000)
What's up
Jordan (00:01:11.000)
What's your brightspot today, buddy?
Dan (00:01:12.000)
My bright spot today is not a bright spot it is a furious spot.
Jordan (00:01:14.000)
It's a furious spot.
Dan (00:01:16.000)
How could nobody tell me? That years a couple years ago, okay. All right. All right. There was a movie version of The Color Out of Space. And not my favorite HP Lovecraft story. But is a Lovecraftian tale. Okay. Starring Nicolas Cage.
Jordan (00:01:36.000)
What? What's it called?
Dan (00:01:38.000)
The Color Out of Space.
Jordan (00:01:39.000)
How is it called that?
Jordan (00:01:40.000)
well because this is a name of the story.
Jordan (00:01:42.000)
Well, I know that but I mean, like, I feel like if it was the name of an HP Lovecraft property, I would have at least known it existed.
Dan (00:01:49.000)
You mean like the story itself
Jordan (00:01:51.000)
No the movie.
Dan (00:01:52.000)
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's like I said, it's not one of the better Lovecraft stories all things considered. Yeah. But yeah, Nicolas Cage, starring in a weird Lovecraft movie.
Jordan (00:02:04.000)
Did you see it?
Dan (00:02:05.000)
No, but I'm gonna
Jordan (00:02:06.000)
why not?
Dan (00:02:06.000)
Because I just found out it exists.That's why there's a furious no one told me. I mean, look both fairly dicey in their own ways. Nicolas Cage and H.P. Lovecraft.
Jordan (00:02:20.000)
They're a match made in regular space. Yes.
Dan (00:02:24.000)
It does strike me as a as an arena where Cage could really tee off. Make make a really bizarre performance. Yeah. Because like, you know, all Lovecraftian protagonists are essentially losing their minds right and going crazy.
Jordan (00:02:40.000)
There's a lot of space to play. Yes. Yeah. Especially as time goes on. They don't get better. It's not like a uplifting tale.
Dan (00:02:47.000)
I'm sure it sucks. I'm sure the movies bad, but I'm gonna watch it eventually. And I'm mad. No one told me anyway. What's your bright spot?
Jordan (00:02:53.000)
My bright spot is my partner and I we finally got into succession. It's that HBO show about the rich people? Battle? Yeah, I've only that'd be great.
Dan (00:03:03.000)
I've heard a lot about that show. But I've never seen it. Yeah,
Jordan (00:03:05.000)
I saw it. It's I think what's interesting about it is they're trying thing I'm gonna you know, like, like, if you think about the office, that kind of workplace comedy. You know, what's what's fun about it is that you have pathos for all the characters, the awkward situations only, like affect you because you're like, I care about that person. Like they're playing this game of anti pathos where you're gonna hear like, you watch something terrible happened to them, and you're like, that's pretty funny. All right, you know, but they're not falling down instead, they're like losing money or something. You know what I'm saying?
Dan (00:03:38.000)
That's That's good. clean fun. Yeah, instead of Andy Dick,
Jordan (00:03:41.000)
like tripping and falling, and you go i That's hilarious. It's like, oh, he lost a million dollars. Yeah, it's kind of like that.
Dan (00:03:50.000)
Oh, all right. I'm not gonna watch it. But I'm glad you're enjoying it. And it sounds fun. That's fun. So Jordan, today we have a situation that may lead to someone else losing a million or so dollars. And so we're hoping for might be more. Today we're gonna be talking about the end of last week, Thursday and Friday, September 29. And 30th 2022. Sure, man. Big something big happened on Thursday. Yeah, how do you do? It's It's It's nuts. Yeah, he's uh, he is a lunatic. I don't know what I can build this up. 100 times over and it is still unbelievable. This guy's fucking behavior. It's insane. And then Friday. It is what it is. It is what it's a little bigoted. But hey, look, Thursday. wouldn't be enough to talk about so tack on Friday we go. Thursday, monumental. monumental thing happens. And then it's just a wasteland.
Jordan (00:04:50.000)
I want more honest intros. I want fucking Jimmy Kimmel to walk out and be like, listen, we got one really good guest then we had to pad out the show. I'm sorry.
Dan (00:05:02.000)
Hey, look ,tonight. They can't all be good shows
Jordan (00:05:05.000)
They can't, you know it and I know it, I feel is how it works.
Dan (00:05:09.000)
I don't know why you're so surprised. I feel like I've said this many times before. Like, this isn't the most important. I'm not surprised I enjoy it. So we'll get down to business on this. But before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's great idea. so first Jordan's, antiperspirant fund. Thank you so much you're now a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:05:27.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Dan (00:05:29.000)
Show you how far back.
Jordan (00:05:32.000)
We're catching up.
Dan (00:05:35.000)
So next, Becky, I told you I would make you a supporter. three exclamation points. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:05:41.000)
I'm a policy wonk,
Jordan (00:05:42.000)
thank you very much.
Dan (00:05:43.000)
Next, mark Moore and PhD. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk.
Alex Jones (00:05:47.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:05:48.000)
Thank you very much.
Dan (00:05:49.000)
Next chaincase says congrats to Hunter and his fiancee, Stacy on their early October nuptials. Thank you so much you're now a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:05:56.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:05:58.000)
Thank you very much. Nailed it
Dan (00:05:59.000)
That message was sent.
Jordan (00:06:03.000)
You have gamed the system, sir. Perfectly. Well done, Shane.
Dan (00:06:08.000)
Next. Rick Deckard and general veers love Kylie Minogue. Thank you so much. We're now policy walk.
Alex Jones (00:06:14.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:06:15.000)
Thank you very much.
Dan (00:06:16.000)
Next roast beef with Anthony Hopkins. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:06:20.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Jordan (00:06:21.000)
Thank you very much.
Dan (00:06:22.000)
And finally we got a technocrat in the mix. Jordan, so 11 engineer a hearty Get well soon as you are recovering from surgery. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.
Alex Jones (00:06:34.000)
I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. Just gonna take a little breaky now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil I have to be taken off the air. Fuck you! Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, Fuck you and your new world order. And fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow. And you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow.
Dan (00:07:28.000)
He's not Oh, bad. Oh, no. Real bad. Oh. So Jordan, we start off on the Thursday show. And Alex is responding to some of the big news of the day. Obviously, Hurricane Ian is in play, right. And also, Kamal Harris, made some misstatements chip.
Alex Jones (00:07:48.000)
But the images of sharks swimming down the highways, and water flooding even to the second floor of some hotels is dramatic. And we will be going over all of that and praying for the folks in Florida and then looking at the mainstream corporate Enemy of the People medium, like the view saying that this happened because DeSantis was elected. Now, if you think that idiocy to not be top, Kamala Harris, who is not geriatric, who does not have the later onset of dementia, but it's just a complete empty suit puppet has come out and said that the United States shares a very important relationship with an alliance with the Republic of North Korea. We are currently at war with North Korea since the armistice in the ceasefire. Back in the 1950s.
Dan (00:08:45.000)
That's big.
Jordan (00:08:45.000)
Are we still at war with North Korea? Apparently we are. did I not know that? Yeah.
Dan (00:08:49.000)
Congralutions. You've just learned something. All right. So I'm not sure if anyone in the world, let alone The View are blaming DeSantis for the hurricane.
Jordan (00:08:57.000)
Yeah, if you want to, if you want to hear something crazy, go back in time and listen to what Dr. James Dobson thinks about what causes hurricanes
Dan (00:09:04.000)
Alex actually plays the clip of The View later. And they're just saying that he doesn't believe in climate change. And he is the governor of the state that's just hit by this giant hurricane, right, right does not mean that he's blaming now he's being blamed for it. Now, I wouldn't be too surprised to if like people were curious, he was gonna continue kidnapping immigrants and stranding them in various parts of the country to own the libs durling the storm, or if he would wait until it had passed to do another publicity stunt that mocks human rights. Also, it's fun and all to point out that Harris misspoke in a speech and I'm glad Alex can have fun pretending it was a sincere statement. I would just like to remind everyone how pumped Alex was when Trump went to North Korea and palled around with Kim Jong-un. Alex didn't seem to have a problem with Trump when he said this about Kim Jong-un at a rally in 2018. Quote, we went back and forth then we fell in love. He wrote me beautiful letters and they were great letters. We fell in love
Jordan (00:09:59.000)
Yep, I remember that. Yeah. Where every time you think about those years that 2016 and 2020 and people tell you a thing that happened and you go No it didn't. That can't be real pretty weird.
Dan (00:10:11.000)
Yeah, did this is maybe just maybe complete bullshit manufactured outrage on Alex's part, and he doesn't actually care about this at all. But he knows that this is a really easy straw man for him to tee off against, which is easier than him trying to do his actual job. Yeah. And Hurrah for him. I mean, she was in the at the DMZ. She misspoke. I mean, it sucks. Yeah, you'd rather someone not make a misstatement but pretending that she actually thinks we're in a fucking alliance with North Korea's
Jordan (00:10:38.000)
Ridiculous. I mean, yeah, it's it. That's, that's absurd, right? That's absurd. I don't even know how to begin to like, oh, man, look at that idiot. I mean, that's too obvious. Yeah, that's, that's Oh, man. We're in alliance against the death robots from art. Like, whatever.
Dan (00:10:57.000)
There's so many times that I could waste our time with, like Alex mispoke. And like, I just I would feel bad. It's the level of like, point that you're making. And that's his bread and butter went
Jordan (00:11:12.000)
back. Back in the early days. He had that clip that he would play that we had Nancy Pelosi misspeaking, like all that, like a ray of stuff. You could do that in a heartbeat for hours,
Dan (00:11:23.000)
probably. Yeah, no, I just like I hear Him say stuff that's like, Oh, I know what he meant. He just said the wrong thing. Right? And I don't even cut those clips out. Why? Why was a waste of time. Exactly. He's wasting time. He's wasting our time. Anyway, there's big news also of non misspeaking types, and that is pipeline news
Alex Jones (00:11:43.000)
escalation. And that's happening on every front. Now, with the Nord Stream one and Nord Stream two pipelines, both confirmed to be attack in western controlled sectors, the Russian government officially saying that NATO in the United States blew up the pipelines. And I even had Russophobic on Joel Skousen is a smart guy, but he's definitely anti Russian, anti communist Russia and anti Putin Russian. He agrees the analysis is clear that Biden in the New World Order blew up both pipelines, and looks like Nord Stream two, they're saying can ever be repaired. What that will do economically to Europe will be beyond devastating. It will be felt here in a big way.
Dan (00:12:26.000)
Joel Skousen doesn't like Russia. That is true. But he's also cripplingly addicted to calling everything that happens in the world of false flag. So I really don't see how this is a meaningful statement from Alex, or from Skousen. It's exactly what you would expect. Yeah. Now, the situation with the pipelines is an interesting one. And it's something to keep an eye on, but it will be unwise to fully jump to a conclusion about it immediately, which is what Alex and Skousen have clearly done. And always do. There were three leaks, which were clearly not the product of an accident or a coincidence, the odds of three independent incidents happening around the same time are astronomical. So it's just, you know, it's not just Russia, that saying that probably isn't intentional act. Right. US and NATO are also saying that
Jordan (00:13:08.000)
well, I mean, one of the leaks was in the shape of the Batman logo. Oh, that one seems pretty. Yeah. Well, you know, which person did that what? Rappaport. Yeah,
Dan (00:13:17.000)
clear that this was done by someone for some reason. But it's not really clear right now, who it was or why most people think it was Russia for a number of reasons. The first is that they have the capability and capacity to do it from a technological standpoint. The second is that they would lose essentially nothing given that their oil companies are sanctioned. And these pipelines are all but shut down currently. The third is that this kind of gesture would send a strong message to the whole of Europe that they're not going to be getting Russia oil in the future. And that even if the war ends, they're at the mercy of Russia's energy supplies. This is in line with acts that Russia has carried out in the past using energy as a tool to apply pressure on Europe to sway policy. In the immediate this isn't going to make things that much worse at all. For Europe, in terms of energy supplies, Nord Stream two was never open. So it doesn't really factor into things. And Russia cut off Nord Stream one over the course of the war in Ukraine. This is more of an omen than anything else. And there are very few parties, you could imagine having a reason to do this, other than Russia, right? It is possible that this is the result of a wild coincidence, or even a rogue actor that we haven't identified could be behind it. But the smart money is pretty clear.
Jordan (00:14:30.000)
Well, I will say that my bachelor party got out of control. Yeah. And so we went and I mean, you know, it's sometimes you're you're out, you're having a nice little walk with your buddies. You see a pipeline, you're like, I gotta pee, and then you poke at it because you're just fucking around and then bam.
Dan (00:14:46.000)
Sometimes your friends are like, let's go to the strip club. Sometimes your friends are like, let's go to the casino. pipeline. Standard.
Jordan (00:14:55.000)
Well, they thought that they thought the strip clubs name was pipeline. Oh,
Dan (00:14:59.000)
it makes said yeah, this is the plot of Hangover four,
Jordan (00:15:03.000)
I believe global global relations.
Dan (00:15:06.000)
But here's here's the problem, like when you start thinking about things being false flags, the way Alex and Skousen are, from a fairly neutral perspective, you would have a hard time figuring out why the US or NATO would want to do something like attack these pipelines, there really isn't a reason for them to do it. But Russia does have some potential reasons to carry this out. And now if you're addicted to false flags, you've found a reason for the US or NATO to do it. They have no reason to do it, but Russia does. And now they have a reason, which is to frame Russia, right. This is tortured reasoning, and it's based on Alex and Skousen has intense hatred of our government because they think it's controlled by evil communist globalists. So, you know, they bend into these pretzels in order to create motive out of absence of motive. Yeah, they create motive for party a, even though party B has more motive. I mean, it's just it's tortured.
Jordan (00:16:04.000)
I mean, for they're there. They're like all argument for the globalist is like essentially Cui bono, you know, just like, follow the money. And it's like, well, the money points to Russia. That's how, you know, it doesn't go that what that's how you know that it wasn't that because that stand to gain course. So what the globalists are doing is benefiting Russia to trick them into thinking that we're not
Dan (00:16:26.000)
it's a classic Oh, who may be done did it nerve, somebody did it. So Biden also sucks. And everyone wants you to eat bugs, sure.
Alex Jones (00:16:38.000)
And we have a president that from even a month ago, look like he had the the second phase of dementia now is obviously the third and final phase. Let's not know what planet he's on. But don't worry, he's got control of the nuclear weapons. This is where we live this is what's happening. And now there are governments in the UK, Australia, Germany, and now the US government is promising to put bugs in the school children's food Oh, you don't want to bug as an adult well as a child you'll be made to eat it. And the keratin or the shell their their their their their armored shell. The bugs is extremely toxic and extremely bad for you and causes liver failure and bone cancer amongst all the other wonderful things. There's the Washington Post insect's a new nutritious ingredient for school lunches and it's being rolled out. Eat the bugs UK schoolchildren fed insects to encourage sustainability is for the Earth. WEF endorses bugs and insects force fed to children. Now happening in 1000 Australian public schools.
Dan (00:17:55.000)
The article that Alex is citing with a headline insects a new nutritious ingredient for school lunches is from The Washington Post. But it's also from May 13 2013. So close it also ends with a question mark. It's just a write up about a report released by the UN Food and Agriculture Organization that looked at edible insects around the world and what potential existed from exploring insect agriculture. It wasn't about feeding kids bugs. A large portion of it is about raising bugs to use as feed for livestock. But Alex doesn't know any of this because he just has a headline from about a decade ago and he's using it to make shit up to freak out his audience. Yeah. The headline about UK schoolchildren is from a May 2022 article on Breitbart that misreports on a study that researchers were carrying out to see if primary school children would change their opinions on alternative proteins. If they were given accurate information about them. No one's being forced to eat bugs in their school lunch here.
Jordan (00:18:49.000)
What if we didn't lie to children?
Dan (00:18:52.000)
The WEF headline Alex reads is even weaker. This is a news punch article which is trying to report to their audience that Klaus Schwab and the WEF are tricking kids and Australian schools to and force feeding them bugs. Yeah, you can hear how Alex is reporting this story, which is how the article wants the reader to experience it. In the real world. What's happened is that there's a brand of chips and snacks called circle harvest, and they use cricket protein in their chips. It's very prominently displayed on the packaging with the name of the product being cricket corn chips, so I don't know if anybody's being tricked into anything here. Circle harvest has been holding presentations at schools since 2007 about their insect protein business and their insect farming, which weirdly is only now becoming an issue for Alex and all these other idiots on the right. This year they began selling their corn chips as an option in about 1000 Australian schools at the canteen. So if kids want to eat them, they can. They don't have to. It's just a product that can choose to buy or not like Doritos or Cheetos. Right kind of feels to me like Alex is afraid of losing to bugs on the free market.
Jordan (00:19:56.000)
Yeah, you know, I just wish it's I think It's time I think we're grown up enough for everybody to just like, come out and be like, listen, eventually we're eating bugs. That's what's happening. Climate change has destroyed your food supply. You fucked up. We've got nothing but fuck, there's a lot of bugs. Eventually we're gonna eat bugs deal with it and just deal with it.
Dan (00:20:16.000)
And also like, I mean, not for nothing. A lot of these articles that you can find make a point that you're already eating bugs. Yeah, just based on how processing works, how big agriculture works, how packaging works. There are regulations in place. Yeah, but there are regulations that are like, alright, you can have a few bugs in there.
Jordan (00:20:37.000)
Also, like fucking zero. The fuck do you think a shrimp is a shrimp is just a bug that lives under the water? Yeah,
Dan (00:20:44.000)
a lot of stuff is culturally dictated these taboos and what have you eat a bug you're going to now as far as keratin goes, Alex is confusing the bug related form of that and keratin treatments. That's what the prior is a food source that's not toxic. But the latter is a cosmological treatment that uses a cream containing formaldehyde, which can be toxic to people or cause negative reactions, right? It's not the keratin itself that's toxic. It's the formaldehyde cream that's being used to treat human keratin like a person's hair. Yeah, there's been a lot of misinformation flying around about chitin. The polysaccharide found in bug exoskeletons mostly about how it's undigestible by humans and toxic, it's not toxic. But it is true that chitin itself may not be fully digestible. But so cellulose, which doesn't stop people from eating celery, you can still get nutritional value out of eating something that contains parts that can't be fully digested, and then you just pass those parts. It's actually good for you like how people need fiber to stay regular.
Jordan (00:21:44.000)
Yeah, what do you rather like have to swallow rocks and have them like Alex might deal with the food inside you and then spit up the rocks? Like what?
Dan (00:21:53.000)
Depends on if crazy right wing people got into rocks?
Jordan (00:21:55.000)
There are worse ways to digest food be happy?
Dan (00:21:59.000)
Yeah, it's kind of hilarious to me that we're in 2022. It's becoming a core part of some people's identity and political ideology that they're mad about the idea of bugs being edible. Listen it's ridiculous
Jordan (00:22:10.000)
Listen children. You're gonna eat bugs. You're just gonna listen. In 20 years,
Dan (00:22:16.000)
you may not It's not like, you'll only bug
Jordan (00:22:20.000)
No, I mean, sure, maybe
Dan (00:22:20.000)
something that is very helpful in supplementing diets.
Jordan (00:22:23.000)
Yeah, I mean, I assume eventually, we're gonna get to the pills. And we'll just have two or three pills, and we'll just call it and bring it to me. I know. I just, that's where I want to be.
Dan (00:22:32.000)
Yeah. I will say, though, that I'm a picky eater. You are, and I don't eat fish now. Right? For me. I'm opposed to eating bugs for a completely different reason. Yeah, I think it's fantastic and fine. Mostly just eat chicken.
Jordan (00:22:51.000)
When you're looking down the barrel of a bug, you're gonna you're gonna have different feelings. Well, I
Dan (00:22:55.000)
guess, actually, if you just ground up bugs and stuff like bug, like the way that the cricket is used in the cricket corn. I don't think I'd have as much of a problem with that. Not like if it was some sort of flour, substitute or you made a mac and cheese, but with bugs? Yeah, it'd be fine with that.
Jordan (00:23:13.000)
I mean, yeah, I just feel like
Dan (00:23:15.000)
I don't want to eat a bug whole. Like I'm on Fear Factor.
Jordan (00:23:18.000)
I think the problem is, you the problem is you can't like for most people, psychologically, it's a difficult thing to get over the idea of eating a bug. So the knowledge of eating the bug will influence the taste that you are experienced. True, but you know,
Dan (00:23:34.000)
here's here's something that I just thought of, too. What's that when you're eating like a whole bug? Yeah. Like, of course, that's not great. Not appealing to what if you were just to bite a chicken? That looked like a chicken? It would bleed? You know, like, if that would be on appetizing too. Sure.
Jordan (00:23:51.000)
Sure. Yep. Yeah, but you're not wrong, technically. But you can't like
Dan (00:23:56.000)
you want to fight a cow. You can't like a ray a
Jordan (00:23:58.000)
bunch of cockroaches on a table. They're like, ah, these have been butchered correctly. That's true. You need a tiny, tiny little head that's coming. That is what Listen, you're gonna eat bugs, you're gonna have tiny hands. That's what's gonna happen.
Dan (00:24:14.000)
Evolution will dictate where we're going. That works. So we got the COVID headline of the day baby.
Alex Jones (00:24:20.000)
Continuing the massive, poisoned shot known as the COVID 19. Vaccine news is unbelievably powerful. I have more than 15 new studies and match reports and top scientists going public. We're gonna be giving you those headlines. Here's the first one. Vaccination increases infection risk by 44%. Oxford Study Finds we already knew that but it gets worse.
Dan (00:24:46.000)
Oh, man. So this is a dumb blog headline that Alex is reading that isn't accurate at all chair. The actual study that's behind this is titled quote associations of BMI with COVID 19 vaccine uptake vaccine effectiveness and risk of severe COVID-19 outcomes after vaccination in England, a population based cohort study, if you understand the title, you'll probably realize that this study would never be able to be used to make the kind of claims Alex's reporting, it's just not something that you're looking at lead stories reached out to the study's co author, and they explained that this interpretation of their data is irresponsible and incorrect. There's one data box in the study that's being used to argue that vaccines cause a 44% increased risk of infection. And if you only look at the numbers in isolation and create your own interpretation, you could maybe come away with that conclusion. But it's totally out of context and wrong. This was an observational study, which is to say it depends entirely on tests that have already been taken. As explained by lead stories, quote, their data was dependent on COVID tests that were available to them and the people who chose to take them. In other words, a person who didn't feel sick and didn't take a test wouldn't be able to provide with them with a negative test result. So the data is highly skewed. Yeah, that is an issue. As we see, every day, Alex has a new COVID vaccine narrative that's full of shit and easily dismissed with a tiny bit of digging. He never looks for any explanation or context because he doesn't want it that would ruin his ability to keep throwing out these vaccine narratives of the day which he needs to keep his audience in a focused scared state. Yeah, constantly seeing new flashy headlines scroll past them, that will be forgotten tomorrow and the next day there'll be something new.
Jordan (00:26:29.000)
I had bullshit imagine all of these scientists get together at like conferences or networking events and they just kind of like start conversation was how did they lie about your work? Huh? Who What What the What's the lie on this one? Oh, they couldn't read numbers. Yeah, I had one of those. I had one of those good and read numbers how many
Dan (00:26:47.000)
times have you tried to operate in good faith and explain that people were wrong only for them to not listen and continue conspiracy theories out of your life's work?
Jordan (00:26:56.000)
You know what and this money this is gonna blow your mind? I thought if I explained it they would hear me What a fool I was. We were all young why where we're
Dan (00:27:06.000)
so there's a lot of news going on. We got the pipeline. We got this dumb COVID shit. But there's there's always time for a PSA of course
Alex Jones (00:27:15.000)
clean protein and gluten clean fat is so good for every cell in your body, so good for your arteries, so good for your heart. It's trans fats, artificial fats, boiled fats, cooked fats that are deadly. Deadly. Deadly. Deadly. Deadly. Lean steak is amazingly good. Lean chicken is incredibly good. Cooked fish or uncooked fish, incredibly good, spiders. But what is bad? There are some things that are so called natural that are not good. Let's just say it. Fast cooked bacon is a ticket to the heart attack. It's natural but it's a burned fat. What are we doing, better cook it slower I'm telling myself that I love crispy burned bacon. cook it slow what. sandwich with onions and lettuce a cheese and an egg? Oh my goodness. Fried egg sandwich. Instead of cooking my bacon in five minutes. When I have bacon a few days a week. I cook it for 20 it even tastes better. Just don't be lazy what is happening but everything else they tell you is a lie.
Jordan (00:28:17.000)
What What fucking morning show did I just walk onto
Dan (00:28:21.000)
it is confirmed that Alex Jones is paid off by the slow bacon cooking lobby.
Jordan (00:28:28.000)
Listen I dont understand why that just happened
Jordan (00:28:32.000)
don't burn your bacon what
Jordan (00:28:34.000)
what what Kathie Lee Gifford ass like now what I've what I've started doing. Have you tried Now listen, listen, the hot oil is what's the problem? Is that hot oil? You want to bake it? And then you'll be healthy. You can eat your bacon and be healthy if you bake it.
Dan (00:28:49.000)
Yeah, that was a little weird. Yeah. strange, strange diversion. But back to complaining about The View. Alex has some pretty he's got some nerve on this one.
Alex Jones (00:29:00.000)
Okay, Governor DeSantis says Hurricane Ian is 500 year event has stunned Florida residents wake up to utter devastation after tsunami style floods killed hundreds as 50 National Guard choppers began search and rescue operations. Meanwhile, piling on to this tragedy of the disgusting lying, anti gun anti family anti America anti free speech, harpies at The View. And what have they said, here's a quote. And now his state is getting hit with one of the worst hurricanes. The View thinks the Hurricane Ian is a direct result of Governor DeSantis stance on climate change. This is superstition. This is voodoo. This is idiocy. But that's why they've dumbed people down in the school system by design it's in the government documents.
Dan (00:29:50.000)
Yeah, man. I just I like the idea that Alex is trying to take some moral high ground over alleged superstition and voodoo. Yeah, and especially when he's misrepresenting what they even said a
Jordan (00:30:02.000)
bunch of idiots who would think that his beliefs on climate change are causing this? It's weather weapons morons,
Dan (00:30:11.000)
well, at least weather weapons have a cause and effect relationship. That's just to his belief that God has doomed our planet because of abortion.
Jordan (00:30:20.000)
Well, he did remove his protection, right. Although we did get a reprieve for a while. I think that's over though.
Dan (00:30:26.000)
All right. Well, maybe Mother Earth removed her protection from Florida because DeSantis doesn't believe in climate change. Oh, it's the same thing. Do
Jordan (00:30:34.000)
God and Mother Earth have different protections that they can? Are they like competing?
Dan (00:30:39.000)
I'm just saying that Alex creates his own spiritual cause and effect nonsense all the time. Oh, ridiculous. Ridiculous. At this point, Alex does devolves into a condescending lecture about weather I'm not going to play it because it's boring. I don't feel like he understands weather Hey, did you know that a typhoon is the same thing as a hurricane in another place? He's
Jordan (00:30:58.000)
Don't tell me he knows anything about weather.
Dan (00:31:00.000)
It's basically just that Yeah, but then he says this, which I thought was fun.
Alex Jones (00:31:04.000)
Time lapse of storms on Jupiter. Our storms maximum speed is about 170 miles an hour on Earth. The storms on Jupiter get up to several thousand miles an hour. Boy, you wouldn't want to be in one of those on that gas giant. Plus the gravity would tear you to pieces.
Dan (00:31:27.000)
There's a lot of reasons I would want to be on a storm Jupiter. So many. You think storms are bad here.
Jordan (00:31:37.000)
I have not heard that. I have not heard. Like, bad. Back in my day. We used to have to walk five miles in every direction to the moon.
Dan (00:31:46.000)
Fuck you with your climate change making storms worse nonsense. You see Jupiter. Crazy. Oh, my God wouldn't want to be in that storm
Jordan (00:31:54.000)
Wouldn't want to be in that pickle? No, no, no, I wouldn't.
Dan (00:31:59.000)
So one of one of Alex's big COVID sources. One of his big things, of course, is the operation lockstep document, which isn't real nah. But he has another document that he likes to pull out. Sometimes he decides to just make up wild shit about it. This is the spars document that's fun.
Alex Jones (00:32:17.000)
In the Pentagon, John Hopkins develop war game plan put out two years before they launch COVID-19. In late 2019, they put it out 2017, spars 2023 is the real number as far as 2020 2023 is when they actually launched the attack. But the documents called spars 2025 2028, if you got a banned dot video, what forum how many numbers, we did a two hour special report going over the entire document or large portions of the entire document. And it even has the same tweets put out on the same days that we actually put out in the real world in 2000 to 2001. And it goes into 2003. They just changed the acronyms in the tweets in agencies. So they would have a battle plan of what to say and what to do in real time. And so they got caught with the battle plan, it wouldn't be a plan for a biological attack on America through the virus and then through the vaccine. It would just be a drill emergency Saturday broadcast world shocked by spars 2025 2028 document. And I'm gonna have that reposted to Infowars dot com front page under the live show feed today. Very, very important for everybody to get that and to share that because we're living it. And it describes how there'd be opposition to the shots. And then how about six months, then it would start coming out that it actually would give you the disease that describe a COVID like disease, respiratory disease out of China. And then then describe about a year into it, they would start having people from the health services defecting saying it was wrong to do. And then within two years of releasing the deadly vaccine, they would then admit that it was lab grown and they would then admit that it didn't work. And that they would remove the heads of Big Pharma there'd be a bunch of punishment. But that there would then be a biomedical state brought in to basically oversee all a big pharma, which is what Big Pharma wants is to be merged in with the United Nations and the World Economic Forum. So they describe the whole process and how they're going to hit us how they're going to kill us, and how they're then going to get away with it.
Dan (00:34:28.000)
None of that is at all accurate about the spars scenario exercise. Alex is just making up pretty much everything he is saying about it. And there's a good reason why he needs this document to be prophetic. But more importantly, he needs it to be prophetic for his fake reality that he's constructed for his audience. The document doesn't say any of that stuff, but these are the narratives that have gained prominence in Alex's world so they're the things that he needs to retro actively apply to this scenario exercise or else it doesn't really have that much use for him. spars much Like lockstep isn't actually useful for Alex, if you read them and understand what they are, they only have utility as ideas, skeletons that he can build a body onto himself. It's one of the reasons that scenario exercises as a whole are super popular among conspiracy theorists like Alex, they portray imagined future events, they explain the scenario using narratives. These are things that Alex can exploit, he can take the actual document and lie about the imagined future events and how they line up with current real events. He can write his own narrative to replace the one that actually exists in the document pretty safe in the knowledge that if anyone called him out about it, it's just a matter of storytelling to convince them that his narrative is secretly what the document is actually about. But it's all lies. None of this is real. And it doesn't even match past versions of the spars, document conspiracy, Alex's spread. This is all just meaningless shit, whose end result is really just getting people hurt, I guess.
Jordan (00:35:57.000)
Yeah, if I was one of those secret agents, or whatever, if I was one of those operatives who got caught with the plan, right? I would be like, isn't this plan so terrible? No one would try it. Haha. What a funny plan. This is Yeah, what a dumb idiot would make this dumb fucking
Dan (00:36:17.000)
plan. That's the standard conspiracy theorist. Scenario exercise kind of che drill based explanation. Yeah, it's like they do this so they can plan. The real attack when I say it's a fake one. Right.
Jordan (00:36:33.000)
Right. It's,
Dan (00:36:34.000)
it's nonsense.
Jordan (00:36:35.000)
Have you considered the idea that this organization, were they real would want a plan that works? Would Have you now let those Listen to me? Follow me on this. Maybe if after these decades, I suppose millennia in Alex's world of failures, they'd be like, let's hire some consultants who can just really streamline this process. Perfect,
Dan (00:36:59.000)
perfect answer. They didn't count on Alex.
Jordan (00:37:03.000)
He really don't think that's the case. Alex has been too successful.
Dan (00:37:07.000)
But also here's the thing the devil tried to recruit him when he was younger. The devil could see the future and knew that Alex was going to be super successful record and see if I'm the devil. Yeah, and Alex doesn't go along with my plan when He's younger. I bail. Oh, sure. Sure. Look, I've been working on this for millennia, but fucking Alex didn't play ball. Yeah, gotta go
Jordan (00:37:27.000)
classic. Disney's Hercules Hades had a problem once once Hercules didn't didn't die. You just fucking bail on your plan. You already know you lost
Dan (00:37:37.000)
the fucking devil. Yeah, I can try again.
Jordan (00:37:39.000)
Can't do this. Uh, wait him out. He will be dead soon.
Dan (00:37:45.000)
Alex fucked my plans up. I'm not gonna keep going with them. Stupid. Yeah.
Jordan (00:37:50.000)
It's a terrible idea.
Dan (00:37:51.000)
So Alex take some calls. And one of them has a pretty interesting point that Alex does not like. Hey, what's up, Alex, how you doing?
Alex Jones (00:38:00.000)
I'm fighting as hard as ever had brother.
Caller 2 (731) (00:38:03.000)
So I think the two weeks are up. Think you give Trump two weeks, you're still promoting the big vaccine salesman, the guy that flew on Epstein's plane. Why are you doing that? But?
Alex Jones (00:38:12.000)
Oh yeah. It's true. I mean, two weeks, I think I gave him like a month. And I've been really against Trump on that. And he flew. He flew on a flight from New York to Florida. On a chartered flight with Epstein. He never flew. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's get a hold on. Don't talk over me. You're gonna put them on hold. Sir. I love calls to disagree. But I'm not gonna. So you can talk? Just I'm gonna counter each lie as you go through them. Trump did not ever fly on Lolita express to little St. John's island. He did fly once in the 90s on Epstein's plane from New York with a bunch of other people to Florida
Dan (00:38:59.000)
flew a lot more than that. Yeah, with Epstein. Yeah, I mean, maybe there isn't a record of him going to the island. That's entirely possible. But like Alex can't handle this, like anything. He can handle any pushback. Right? You see the way that he uses these cheap tricks to control the conversation. He accuses the guy of lying, don't interrupt me. puts him on hold. Yeah, it's just all the weak tea. Yeah. It's the flexing of a guy who can't have can't can't hold his own.
Jordan (00:39:31.000)
Yeah, you know, I feel like I have the only really unassailable position on this, which is that if we got rid of everybody who was on the plane at least once, once or above, we'd be better off we'd be fine. And let me tell you something. No, false innocent. Let me No, no, let
Dan (00:39:51.000)
me shift your language just a tiny bit.
Jordan (00:39:53.000)
I mean, I mean, took them out of the public's power structure. I'm not in the mafia, right?
Dan (00:40:02.000)
If people who are, you know, to the standard that you're describing faced consequences. Yeah, yes, I, as long as you're not making it sound like like, we got to hit them
Jordan (00:40:14.000)
like I've never been on the plane, I would I would even go so far as to say 99% of the people have never been on the plane and every one of them who was
Dan (00:40:22.000)
vast majority of the population has not been I
Jordan (00:40:25.000)
think we'd be fine without him. If you were on the plane one time get the fuck out of here
Dan (00:40:29.000)
unless you were on the plane, and it wasn't your choice. And then sure,
Jordan (00:40:32.000)
then Whoa, it's
Dan (00:40:33.000)
a totally Oh, yeah. Oh, no, no. So get another call here. And well, this caller believes that a better version of the Alex Jones was right meme should be Alex Jones didn't lie. Which I take issue. Yeah, that could be an issue. Now. I think that's defamation. Mike down for this because where this goes, bad.
Caller 1 (731) (00:41:00.000)
Okay. So I think that the meme of Alex Jones was right. I think that, you know, that's a wonderful meme. But I think what would be more powerful, at least to me would be Alex Jones was telling the truth. Because it's in, you've been wrong in some things, and you've apologized for those things. But you've been right on far more stuff than you've been wrong. And I think it's much more powerful to say, he was just telling the truth. He was just reading the news, and he was telling the truth, you will
Alex Jones (00:41:31.000)
absolutely. Take the Sandy Hook thing. I never really covered that. I covered what people were saying. And then later I said, okay, it happened. But now that I've seen the trial's rigged, and how it all looks, I mean, it's definitely the whole thing's deep state. That's all I can say. So I think the public's original instinct about it was right. I don't know what really happened there but it is it is synthetic as hell.
Caller 1 (731) (00:41:54.000)
Right. And I think that your right to question things I mean, that's, that's the right of every American. But for me, personally, I wasn't even talking about the Sandy Hook thing.
Caller 1 (731) (00:42:05.000)
To me personally. I just want to say thank you for everything you've done. Oh,
Dan (00:42:10.000)
my God. What is what is happening?
Jordan (00:42:14.000)
I legit want a personal apology. I want a personal apology from all of the media. I went apeshit about how they Oh, Alex finally admitted something. Alex finally apologized. I want a personal fucking apology from every goddamn one of you
Dan (00:42:31.000)
gotta get you back on Twitter.
Jordan (00:42:32.000)
I? No, no, no, no, fuck them. Yeah, wow,
Dan (00:42:38.000)
this is bad for Alex. This. Okay, so let's break down a couple of things. We know Alex's language and what things mean? Yes, him saying that this is synthetic is very bad
Jordan (00:42:52.000)
immediately after saying that the trial was rigged. Well, but that's
Dan (00:42:57.000)
kind of normal for him sure. That I wouldn't even bat an eyelash at this point. Sorry, continue him saying Sandy Hook was synthetic is a way that he described the event when he was saying that everyone was actors. This is harkening back to that language. Now to make things even worse, when he says the people's instincts originally were right. Yep. That is him saying that they were actors. Yep. That is the way he describes the theories that he just started to look at. Yeah, he was just looking at the suspicions that people had when he uses that kind of language. He is definitely whether or not he actually believes anything. Yeah, he is definitely giving voice to the this was all fake. Yeah. thing. He said it again. This is and I think if I had to guess it's, it's based in anger. Like, yeah, I went Mark. Bankston was first on the show. First time, he speculated that one of the things that drove Alex is anger at these parents. Yeah. And I didn't really necessarily agree. I thought it was an interesting perspective. But it wasn't the way I necessarily looked at it. Right. Right. I'm coming more along to that. Yeah. Because he has said things that were so disrespectful to the idea that there are grieving parents crying in court. And, you know, I think that there is like a just
Jordan (00:44:28.000)
how dare you make me feel bad, right.
Dan (00:44:30.000)
Yeah. I and one of the things that I think is really telling about this, is that Alex knows he fucked up, because here's the version of this that appears on his own website.
Caller 1 (731) (00:44:42.000)
So I think that the meme of Alex Jones was right. I think that, you know, that's a wonderful meme, but I think what would be more powerful, at least to me would be Alex Jones was telling the truth, because it's in you've been wrong in some things and you've apologized for those things for us. Right on far more stuff than you've been wrong. And I think it's much more powerful to say he was just telling the truth. He was just reading the news. And he was telling the truth to me personally. I just want to say thank you for everything you've done.
Dan (00:45:18.000)
He entirely cut it out
Jordan (00:45:19.000)
edited out every part of the Yeah, wow. Yep,
Dan (00:45:23.000)
he knows he fucked up.
Jordan (00:45:24.000)
Well, what he said if words mean things, which I don't know if they do, if words mean things, then what he said was, this happened. I didn't defame the families. Then they sued me. And now that I've seen the trial is rigged and all of that stuff. First, I said it happened. I said, sure it happened. And then he said, but now the whole thing is deep state. That's all I can say. And all things totally synthetic. And you're like, so you just talked yourself into defaming the parents again?
Dan (00:45:57.000)
Yep. Yep. And he knows he fucked up. He edited it out for a reason. And the reason is, because he was hoping that people would get caught it. Yeah. But unfortunately, he's still like he did this on his show. And it is on the version that went out on all the radio affiliates still on the GCM feed of his show. Oh, and certainly this next week, I believe this will be a problem in court. I wouldn't be surprised this is about as bad of a thing as he could do. In the middle of this case. Yeah. He. I was texting you about this, you know, because it's like, I was flabbergasted. Yeah, of course. And one of the things that this does, is it hands to the plaintiff's attorneys, concrete evidence that Alex will never change. No, he can't learn lessons. No, there is nothing that will stop him from doing things like this, the very thing that he is in court for the very thing that this trial, and this jury is trying to determine the penalty of Yep, he will not ever stop. Nope. And that is a very valuable thing for the prosecution, the plaintiff's attorneys well, like it's, it's, it's on a platter.
Jordan (00:47:24.000)
I mean, you remember both of their opening statements, you remember Mattei saying, you know, like, we got to, we have to stop him, you know, basically, we have to stop him. And the only way to do that is to take them off the air. And the only way to do that is to take all of his money away, you know, and then Norm was like, that's, that's not how you should work. You know, you shouldn't just do that you should punish him and then he should be allowed to go on his day. But this is just every bit of why, you know, because the jury doesn't really know why that he has to be stopped. Yeah, you know, they've gotten all the shit he's done and you can punish them for the shit he's done and then say, Okay, now that you've been punished, you know not to do this again. Right? But he's already been punished. He's already lost a lawsuit well
Dan (00:48:10.000)
and comes into court and does like this defiant penitent act. Oh, like, you know, I questioned some things and my right to be able to question things. Yep. Like this flies. So in the face of any kind of presentation he wants to make of himself in court. I think he did himself an incredible disservice. I am like, I think Norm sucks. I got no sympathy for him. But man having to deal with this is like, how do you not beg the court to put a gag order on him? Yeah, no, absolutely. How do you not he can't stop himself from blowing up his own spot. No. I am.
Jordan (00:48:49.000)
I don't know how Norm isn't or I mean, they they don't know how
Dan (00:48:53.000)
Norm tried to get himself removed as council. Exactly. He couldn't. Oh, man. So yeah, I don't know man. Pretty bad. Honestly, I think it's gonna play even worse in court that he cut it out of the episode. Oh, it's not gonna be boosted. show so much aware awareness of what
Jordan (00:49:12.000)
you did. Yeah. You know what you did? Yeah, Alex. Yep.
Dan (00:49:16.000)
So anyway, good luck.
Jordan (00:49:19.000)
Bad luck to you. You deserve every bit of what's about to fall on your fucking head.
Dan (00:49:24.000)
So Alex takes some more calls. And this guy decides he's gonna insult Chris Mattei. And then they spit ball some conspiracies, not about the case. About smart about the pipeline.
Caller 2 (731) (00:49:37.000)
Great to hear from you. Enjoying the book, loving the supplements. Thank you. I love the way that you handled that pencil neck geek of an attorney over there Connecticut. What an idiot. Well, they're
Alex Jones (00:49:49.000)
gonna they've already rigged the jury. It's all rigged. The good news is I don't have any money. They're not getting any money it's all a big joke on their asses.
Caller 2 (731) (00:50:00.000)
Got a question about the pipeline? They're saying that it's not being used and why is a bunch of gas escaping that? That's not being?
Alex Jones (00:50:07.000)
That's a good point. If Nord Stream two wasn't open? Why would they blow it up? Was it having so much gas through it?
Caller 2 (731) (00:50:14.000)
Something doesn't add up, of course nothing ever does nothing they tell us on the mainstream ever makes any
Alex Jones (00:50:20.000)
any Germany opened it up and that pissed off NATO, they blow it up. If you're on the same day, they it makes perfect sense. They opened up that new pipeline.
Caller 2 (731) (00:50:28.000)
And who owns that pipeline?
Alex Jones (00:50:30.000)
That's a good question.
Caller 2 (731) (00:50:32.000)
I would like to know that that's probably the United States.
Alex Jones (00:50:37.000)
That's why I love taking calls. I didn't think of that. As closed, never opened, didn't have gas in it. Why when it blew up? Did it have gas in it. Wow.
Caller 2 (731) (00:50:47.000)
It doesn't make any sense. Nothing. They say it makes sense.
Alex Jones (00:50:51.000)
We got to put a headline out asking that question. If Nord Stream two didn't have gas, and why when it blew up? They have all that gas in it that? Wow.
Caller 2 (731) (00:51:02.000)
This doesn't make any sense.
Dan (00:51:03.000)
It nothing makes sense. When you don't look into the things that are confusing you. Like if you have questions, and they're sincere questions, find the answer to them. But they don't care. No, they don't care about the question. They don't care about the answer. The question is a prop that's being used to justify their
Jordan (00:51:21.000)
continued disregard of any and all possible actual reality. Sure,
Dan (00:51:26.000)
and to prop up and decorate their predetermined conclusion. Sure. So the Nord Stream pipelines are closed in terms of there being no flow through them, but they're still full of gas. It's estimated to be about 90% methane. That's why the pictures that you see are of gas roiling to the surface as opposed to the classic image of an oil spill. I could have found that out within a minute. I wanted to look into it.
Jordan (00:51:50.000)
I do appreciate the idea of being like, ah, I'd like to know who owns that pipeline. We're gonna look at probably the United States. No, I don't need to look it up anymore. I've just decided it's probably the states don't need to worry about it. I won't button up. I withdraw my question, sir, for the answer is too obvious. Sure.
Dan (00:52:09.000)
So that pipeline that he's stated that's owned by the US that one is the Baltic pipe, which opened around the same time as the other ones began leaking. This is, of course, proof that everything all of these are connected. The pipeline is not owned by the United States. It's a joint venture operated by the Danish company Energinet and the Polish oil company Gaz-System. The pipeline has been in the works since 2001, with long periods of dormancy, but it's always been an attempt to decrease Europe's dependence on Russian oil. As far back as the beginning of the year, they were estimating October 1 as their partial opening date with the full capacity possible by the beginning of 2023. Right. It's maybe interesting that this pipeline opened around the same time as those other ones were possibly sabotaged. But that alone is not enough to prove that these events are connected. Yeah. It's enough to prove that in Infowars land, though, because truth is not a solid object there.
Jordan (00:53:05.000)
Well, I mean, it's it I understand the coincidental timing right. But it is it is like, Okay, you made a pipe that nobody was getting oil from leak. And this one's fine. So what's the conspiracy? They're like, who? Who benefits from this?
Dan (00:53:25.000)
NATO?
Jordan (00:53:26.000)
Oh. Good call.
Dan (00:53:31.000)
Yeah, I look, I this conspiracy is dumb. It's meaningless. It's bad. That's why I don't know the answers. What
Jordan (00:53:39.000)
if Okay, now it looks like it couldn't have been accidental. But have we accounted for giant spiders? Those big those big knights and their water spider? Yeah. And they might want gas. We don't know what makes them grow so big. Yeah, that sounds good enough for me. We have not accounted for we have not accounted for giant spiders. Well, this is an issue
Dan (00:54:02.000)
Alex asks Skousen about it
Jordan (00:54:05.000)
Russian spiders now we're in real trouble.
Dan (00:54:09.000)
So we jump to Friday the 30th. And here Alex is in quite a mood at the beginning of the show.
Alex Jones (00:54:15.000)
I tend to do hours of research at night and hours of research in the morning. And then I come in here very frustrated and with a sense of insurmountability, because there's no way to cover all of this properly. But then I realized it's all part of the human process and all part of cycles. We go through and we're entering the bottom of one of the most deadly cycles in human history, if not the most deadly with the high tech weapons and systems that are on The surface of this planet, beneath the seas and in the air and space, what. But when I really get focused, I find a place of clarity and understanding and can really articulate why the enemy's doing, what they're doing and what we have to do to stop them. And so right now, and one of those focus places, we'll see if I can stay there and just calmly go over this because the gravity of all of this is so unbelievably important.
Dan (00:55:27.000)
I love first of all, setting the stakes real high. Yeah, saying you're in that focus place. But then undercutting the stakes by saying, let's see if I can even stay in this place.
Jordan (00:55:36.000)
It is kind of interesting. I can articulate it so clearly. How long Yeah, it could
Dan (00:55:42.000)
be five could be 10, but probably not gonna make it to the commercial break. Doubtful. I am not good at staying in this place. Sleepy. Now. So this isn't good. It's mostly the the argument here is that demons take children, and then they mess them up. And, you know, some of it is
Jordan (00:56:07.000)
Hold on, keep going. I'm gonna give you a little bit of background music to really help you. Some,
Dan (00:56:12.000)
some of it ends up in murder, and some ends up with getting these kids to go and like, recruit more folks share and these these demons get the kids through like the CPS. Okay, and what have you called this thing in order to destroy the family? Right. And it has to do with Alex's transphobia. Yeah. And that's basically how the globalists operate. Yes,
Jordan (00:56:36.000)
that that, unfortunately, sounds like how the globalist do operate based upon what I know of the globalists. I think we're lucky, I think we're lucky they're not real. Sure. Yeah, that could be a real issue.
Dan (00:56:48.000)
So mostly, this is going to end up being a bit of a transphobic display for a little bit. But there are some funny parts along the way. And that is, this first part at least Okay, Alex has determined that some people identify as aliens.
Alex Jones (00:57:05.000)
It doesn't get much more evil than this. And then you see the national news, showing the abject freak shows of where the man is a woman and the woman's a man. And there's this big movement now where they go, I'm not even a human. I'm not a dog. I'm not a cat. I'm an alien. And I talked to one of my good friends, two nights ago. And they went down with their wife down to Fourth Street, which isn't, you know, the out of control criminal overrun area, like Sixth Street, but still, they walked down by Sixth Street. And they saw just all these creatures. Black, white, Hispanic, you name it. They couldn't tell what they word but they look like aliens. shaved heads, weird green eyeshadow. clownish looks just like drag queen storytime. And they asked him, What are you and they were hissing and saying we're aliens. Now, I said that without even telling the crew, I was gonna say that last segment. Within 10 seconds, they pulled up Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, where these groups go on together. We're like 10 15 boxes up on the computer screen. And they all look completely like aliens. They're into how they've lost their humanity. They're into how they're sexless. This is what the globalist plan in Brave New World published in 1931.
Dan (00:58:27.000)
A, I was out on the streets of Chicago and I have to report to you that there are large groups of people who identify as Santa some drunk people.
Jordan (00:58:40.000)
Here's here's a thought I just had is like, in Alex's world, no one ever just gets fucking high for a night. You know, like, nobody's ever just fucked up tonight. Like, going up to a party. I got fucked up. I did a little MDMA. And now I'm gonna hit you. Like that might be fun tonight.
Dan (00:58:58.000)
Or if like, it's some people on like an alien bar crawl or something like that? Yes. Having a theme party, right? Yes. Like if he saw the Santa bar crawl or the zombie bar crawl or
Jordan (00:59:10.000)
The Flaming Lips still touring, they could have been going to a Flaming Lips show.
Dan (00:59:14.000)
There's a number of possibilities. But apparently this is terrifying. I
Jordan (00:59:19.000)
just I just wish that his his worldview doesn't ever encapsulate somebody just being really fucked up and having a good night and saying weird shit to you. You know, it's always got to be like, an ongoing thing. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're weird.
Dan (00:59:33.000)
So, Alex, one of the things that we know from watching his show and paying attention to a lot of this stuff is that we look at the Satanic Panic that's going on now. And the Satanic Panic of the 80s is kind of separate and incidents right? There was a flare up and then that went low. Right and that's coming back as opposed to one giant long incident and to Alex believes he believes it's one long incident of course, it's all real, right? And the devil just was getting I guess active in rare, right, right. And then there was a little bit of a lapse
Jordan (01:00:12.000)
that the devil is a little bit like Earth's herpes. You know, it shows up every now and again. And then it's like, Oh, I haven't had an outbreak for a while or
Dan (01:00:21.000)
you just needed a nap? Could be Yeah, would be it's so hard to possess everybody.
Jordan (01:00:27.000)
You gotta see. I mean, he has a lot of energy. He's eons old. True, you know, I bet he's real sleepy.
Dan (01:00:33.000)
Yeah, I mean, I'm pushing 40 And I'm tired as hell.
Jordan (01:00:37.000)
What if instead of the devil being like, all the red horns and the tail and all that it was more like an Ent from Lord of the Rings and he's just like
Dan (01:00:49.000)
going, I gotta go, Satan D I gotta go. The sign. Maybe that's that's why the Satanic Panic has gone
Jordan (01:00:59.000)
back. But yeah, he's trying to finish out his name.
Dan (01:01:02.000)
So one of the things that was a feature of that Satanic Panic was, of course, the McMartin school case. Ted Gunderson involvement in things and Alex loves Gunderson.
Alex Jones (01:01:14.000)
I imagine being the first Ted Gunderson to expose this, and people think you're crazy.
Jordan (01:01:21.000)
Yeah, that'd be crazy.
Alex Jones (01:01:22.000)
He could've stayed at the FBI. He left the FBI so he could expose this. He discovered whole towns run by devil worshippers. Well, now they're expanding to take over everything at the end of the day. That's what they are. They're devil worshippers, hiding behind science hiding behind the science of psychology and psychiatry. And they are now expanding it down to the grassroots level. They're not in beta anymore. They're an operational. So I have this big stack of news and I, I said, I'll get to it later. But I'll actually go over the documents last segment of this hour. But remember when we're covering all this other information, that witches are real when you see high level Democrat policies, particularly and some Republicans, when you see these, some of these judges are these Democrat lawyers. Like yours, nine times out of 10, they are devil worshipping pedophiles, period. That's why they look like vampires. That's why they act like vampires. They're all these types. And you learn the look at them. And then you see their policies and they support sexualization of children, chemical castration of children, physical castration of children, because they want the spiritual act of destroying innocence and the future. And it's hard to come to grips with it. But when you actually get around these people, you see the deadness in their eyes. You see what they are, they're like wraiths, and they know what they are doing.
Dan (01:02:49.000)
So everybody that is against Alex or Alex is against sure is a knowing Satanic pedophile. Yeah, know what they're doing? Yeah, yeah. That sounds pretty evil.
Jordan (01:03:01.000)
No, no, that's how you demonize an entire group in order. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, that's really bad.
Dan (01:03:07.000)
It's not even an entire group. No, it's everyone. You're against everybody. Yes.
Jordan (01:03:11.000)
Anybody? I decide today? Yeah. I like I like that nine times out of 10, though, like, what's the other person doing?
Dan (01:03:20.000)
Well, it's Alex's lawyer. I know. Exactly the rebuttal you made
Jordan (01:03:23.000)
but like they go into, they go into like a, an office setting and they're all sitting around and he's like, oh, boy, I hope they don't know that. I'm the only one who's not a knowing pedophile here worship safe. Like, that would be awkward. You would Yeah, it certainly would. Yeah. Thankfully, this
Dan (01:03:39.000)
is all in Alex's head that is thankful. Now Alex decides to take a bit of his time to describe the taxonomy of demons.
Jordan (01:03:51.000)
Like kingdom, phylum, we're gonna go there the whole hierarchy. Okay. All right, here we go. I'm interested.
Alex Jones (01:03:57.000)
So there's different classes of those that have fallen to evil? Put a handbook out on it.
Jordan (01:04:03.000)
Yes, you should. Monster manual tension.
Alex Jones (01:04:07.000)
Zombie folks are in a trance that just watch TV and are online all day and eat GMO. They don't exercise. The glow in the dark type folks. They can be black, they can be white, but they have that translucent, weird kind of zombie look, because they're in a trance medically in major studies. The general public compared even 50 years ago or 20 years ago, is in a mere daydream, waking sleeping sleepwalking state. So you got the zombos,
Jordan (01:04:37.000)
and technical term,
Alex Jones (01:04:39.000)
every age color race, they're everywhere in the industrialized world. Then you've got people that kind of become more like gremlin wraiths. Gremlin take down the whole operating system of corruption and hatred of the family and they love soy, and they love GMO. And they love whatever the system was. They worship the system and act like they're avant garde rebels when they're totally backed by the New World Order and they just do whatever the system says. They will try to get rid of their humanity any way they can. To make themselves look as ugly as possible, and they act in big groups and in coordination. Sure, the zombies don't so much act in coordination. They just mill around mindlessly, okay? The gremlin wraiths are mischievous, hateful project your own hatred of themselves onto you follow whatever the globalist New World Order, say whatever the new thing is, they're the NPCs with a limited mission.
Dan (01:05:36.000)
So we got the zombos and gremlin wraiths.
Jordan (01:05:39.000)
I was kind of hoping we would get a lot more than that. Well, there's more. Okay, good. Okay, good. Because I feel like it I'm writing down everything. Yeah, we
Dan (01:05:47.000)
need to break this. I want it. I
Jordan (01:05:49.000)
want it. I want his monsters manual. Yeah.
Dan (01:05:51.000)
He is no Gygax.
Jordan (01:05:54.000)
Gremlin wraith, yeah, sure. What's your what do you see when you hear Gremlin Wraith,
Dan (01:05:59.000)
I see Alex not preparing as he would have a different name. If he wasn't just coming up with this. I
Jordan (01:06:06.000)
think so too. I don't see so Gremlin I see the I mean first of all, do you see gizmo or do you see like the the DND Gremlin? You see your Gizmo Guy. I'm a Gizmo Guy. Okay. I'm uh, okay. So we'll go with that. All right, and then the Wraith part. So it's it's gizmo wearing a robe?
Dan (01:06:27.000)
Sure. Yeah. Okay, I guess I'll take that. I want to do well, they are mischievous.
Jordan (01:06:34.000)
You know, they love soy. I like soy. I make some I make some soy. Stir fry. I got some little nuggets. It's it's fantastic. I
Dan (01:06:43.000)
prefer oat milk. To soy milk. I love that Alex is still a hanger on with the soy boys. That this is great.
Jordan (01:06:51.000)
I thought we were past it. Yeah, I think everybody kind of likes it now. Right?
Dan (01:06:54.000)
I look I say on fleek as a joke. But how out of the loop I am sure Alex I think is sincere. out of the loop. He is with the the right wing talking points. Yeah,
Jordan (01:07:05.000)
maybe maybe you guys didn't like soy because you just didn't know how to prepare it. You know? Like it could be learn how to cook.
Dan (01:07:11.000)
Yeah. Um, so Zombos is pretty much everybody sure that Alex doesn't like Yeah, watch TV
Jordan (01:07:20.000)
You know, you know that unusual thing people do like Alex does all the time. It's exactly like he has thoughts on The View all the time.
Dan (01:07:29.000)
I'm so mad at Bill Maher. Oh, yeah. They just waddle around. Right. They mail about.
Jordan (01:07:34.000)
They don't really gather in groups. No, no gremlin wraiths,
Dan (01:07:39.000)
big groups. I think that that's the protesters basically. Yeah, the zombie zombos Those are individuals that Alex doesn't like, then the Gremlin wraiths are like protesters. And he'll go into part organized things that Alex doesn't like. Right. Right. Right. But there's another level above that. And of course, it involves. The CPS, I believe I think they're the next level.
Jordan (01:08:04.000)
Okay.
Alex Jones (01:08:04.000)
And so you have the zombies you have the Gremlin servants. And then you have the Renfields that actually serve the Dracula's. And there's a hierarchy in those and there's a hunt there's a Renfield, he brings kidnap babies to Dracula, who then gives it to his brood of women when he has his sex orgies. So giving you archetypes of this and so Renfields are your corrupt CPS workers, Renfields, your corrupt family court judges, Renfields are the people in Germany in the US at the orphanages that deliver children to the pedophile rings. And there's different levels of Renfield, low level Renfield system, groom and deliver children, then you'll have Renfields that keep children ready and trained. And they're trying to transition as Renfield is in the book Dracula to being a full vampire. And so they actually rape children they hurt children, and they're always begging Dracula can we can I take part in killing him? And then Dracula slaps him down, because you've got to really work hard and beg to get to the point where actually slicing up children drinking their blood. That's literal that's what these people do they torture children to death. Wow.
Dan (01:09:18.000)
Okay, so what do you
Jordan (01:09:21.000)
wow, I mean, we jumped pretty far from love soy and mischievous direct to kidnap babies.
Dan (01:09:28.000)
Right that happened so fast debate to drink there.
Jordan (01:09:32.000)
Really feel like there should be a middle level in between there there.
Dan (01:09:35.000)
Well, I mean, I think if you're talking about a hierarchy of demons, essentially, there's not going to be a benign boring demon. Zombie.
Jordan (01:09:43.000)
Yeah, but why not have like some some regular bureaucrat like, you know, somebody might be a hierarchy of vampire. Wow, I suppose that's true. They would steal your your blood,
Dan (01:09:55.000)
I guess, except they have to be worse than the Renfield right because they're higher up on the chain. Same well,
Jordan (01:10:00.000)
they don't have to be worse. No, no, no, you're getting this backwards. They're higher up so they don't have to do the dirty work.
Dan (01:10:09.000)
Work wouldn't be being done if it weren't for them when their demand. I mean,
Jordan (01:10:12.000)
they just say things and then they appeared nobody's making any hard demands. It Dracula's not insinuating that it would be good idea to bring to him.
Dan (01:10:23.000)
Sure. Sure he is. So we have an identification of Dracula.
Jordan (01:10:28.000)
Dracula has to be oh, there's only one drag.
Dan (01:10:32.000)
Yes. Oh, okay. There's other vampires, right. But there's one Dracula, gotcha. Okay. I think you already know who it is.
Jordan (01:10:38.000)
I mean, it's gotta be Stelter. No,
Dan (01:10:41.000)
it's King Charles.
Alex Jones (01:10:42.000)
These are the zombies and the Gremlin wraith. And then you get your low level Renfield. mid level Renfield, higher level Renfield by five or six levels of Renfield. Depending on the setup, life vary, and justify the fourth class above that. And you get the King of England at the top Count Dracula show. That's it. Basically, that's how it actually works. And you should just know that. So it takes a while. Singers a scientist and a doctor and a researcher, but a strong will. That's who you are. That's who I am. Sure, I will take these guys on and you got to know who they are. You got other different classes of them. And once you know this, you're like, oh, there's a Renfield. And they always ask the same thing. Their week to vote. Really excited around about Helsing. My master will get you around. I mean, we literally do this, sir. People seen him do it. And so when you see a Chuckie Schumer, that's a vampire melee. That's a vampire. Yeah. When you see a Prince Charles, that's Count Dracula. You see these people, that's who they are.
Dan (01:11:54.000)
Get it? This is how things work.
Jordan (01:11:56.000)
And that's just how it is nice to know we've got zombos right got Gremlin wraiths, we've got the square of six layers of Redfield, right? And then we've got regular vampires, Hillary, Hillary or Schumer and then
Dan (01:12:13.000)
at the top, King Charles
Jordan (01:12:16.000)
is the guy who has been essentially ignored for the past 70 years
Dan (01:12:21.000)
and clowned, on largely disliked
Jordan (01:12:25.000)
everyone everybody kinda hates this dude. Yeah, that's Dracula. Right. Okay. So so he was behind the scene. You
Dan (01:12:32.000)
don't understand that in in Dracula myths. Sure. One of the essential features is the Dracula had a wife that everyone liked way more who died.
Jordan (01:12:43.000)
That is true. regularly. Okay, so this is dumb. So what was the queen doing? Did she know? Previously? You can't just you can't stop being Dracula.
Dan (01:12:55.000)
I think you can when you die. And Dracula doesn't die. Is it undead has staked her
Jordan (01:13:02.000)
boy pass on then got the Dracula power.
Dan (01:13:05.000)
Right. That's what I imagined. Because I think that what Alex is saying is the station of the King of England is okay. Is the that's the dragon. Right? Right. Right. But then again, Alex does always say that, like Prince Charles has talked about how you like, oh, Transylvanian heritage right.
Jordan (01:13:23.000)
Yeah.
Dan (01:13:25.000)
Ha. So yeah. So I mean, it all makes sense. Now. I'm glad that he was so focused.
Jordan (01:13:31.000)
I'm still stuck on the Gremlin wraiths. Why? Because I just see a little gizmo wearing a black robe. On pranks, maybe. I also have like, okay, highest ranking Gremlin Wraith, is that equivalent to the lowest ranking? Renfield? No, no, no, no. Renfields are
Dan (01:13:48.000)
always above well Renfields are the servants of the Dracula's on the vampire. Sure. The Gremlin wraiths mount really?
Jordan (01:13:56.000)
They're just out there causing mischief. They do evil. Yeah, please. Yeah, maybe maybe nobody gives them commit. They're
Dan (01:14:03.000)
chaotic. Yeah,
Jordan (01:14:04.000)
I gotcha. Yeah, they're like the Goths. Just Roman about tearing down Rome. Whatever. They you mean, historical, historical guy. No, not.
Dan (01:14:14.000)
Gods. Yeah. Yeah. So unfortunately, there's ways that you can end up becoming a vampire.
Alex Jones (01:14:19.000)
Do I hate somebody that is gay better be my relation with somebody? Absolutely. Not. A lot of nice people that are but that's the gateway into this whole thing. And it's Heterosexuals are pedophiles as well. But the entire LGBTP movement has turned into a giant pedophilic operation. Damn.
Dan (01:14:41.000)
Yep, well, boy, what a load of shit. Wow. I mean, it makes it less fun right? I mean, it's a lot of fun to hear Alex rambling about the hierarchy of demon. Yeah, that's a great use the world that's great. It's silly and stupid. But then you realize kind of at the end of the day that this is all All just anti LGBTQ plus narrative, that? I mean, it's it there's implied violence within it. Yeah,
Jordan (01:15:10.000)
absolutely. Well, you're maligning any buddy.
Dan (01:15:14.000)
And essentially arguing that being gay can be a gateway drug to vampirism racism or being a pedophile. And and of course,
Jordan (01:15:23.000)
heterosexual people can be pedophiles to naturally anyone I disagree with. Also a pedophile regardless of what their sexual orientation may or may not be. Yeah, so basically everyone but Alex fucks kids,
Dan (01:15:37.000)
according to Alex, yeah. Good. Um, Ted Nugent also.
Jordan (01:15:41.000)
Yeah, that's true. Although Ted Nugent does...
Dan (01:15:45.000)
Allegedly.
Jordan (01:15:45.000)
Yeah.
Jordan (01:15:47.000)
He's he's got a note perfect way of describing something.
Dan (01:15:51.000)
I mean, he does have a song. I'm a predator. Exactly. I was
Jordan (01:15:55.000)
trying to do pun like, but yeah,
Dan (01:15:58.000)
so Alex needs money. Because he's fighting. He's Van Helsing, right. He's been hell singing
Jordan (01:16:05.000)
he's moved. No, Nugent Van Helsing, right. Yeah. Alex, but in hell, grouse
Dan (01:16:11.000)
needs money. Yeah.
Alex Jones (01:16:12.000)
You want to throw money to fight. You want to fly the stand up to the New Order, we did it together. The listeners of viewers this broadcast myself approve the guests. And now we're in the main battle. It's really a simple equation. God keeps me humble, but I gotta tell you, I barely have the money to pay my lawyers. I barely have the money to travel to Connecticut next week. The bankruptcy court has me personally paying for my travel everything up there, fine, whatever, great, but I'm almost out of money. Go to save infowars dot com That's the URL to make personal donation Info Wars. For our legal and our travel. We need your help. Were in the fight or like the Alamo, sending a letter out asking for help. Whatever happens happens, it's up to you.
Dan (01:16:53.000)
It's Colonel Travis sending out a letter that I need $80,000 to get a private jet to go to Connecticut. You know, it'll suck it. So
Jordan (01:17:02.000)
it is it is like listen, I get it. I get it. You you realize that you can't just book a Southwest flight. If if I'm standing in fucking boarding group C. And I see Alex Jones in front of me. I get it man. That can't happen that just can't. But you could fly first class your your bag. You know, you get your own little you get to show up earlier. Whatever the fuck it is where there's only like 10 people in there
Dan (01:17:29.000)
wear a wig. tall glasses. Absolutely. Probably not get to harass.
Jordan (01:17:34.000)
You could go as well. I wouldn't recommend this. Now that I think about it. If he tried to do Madea it could be. It could be don't do an Madea don't do A Madea
Dan (01:17:49.000)
there is also probably a cheaper way to charter travel. You know like even if he had to do that. I think it probably be a cheaper option
Jordan (01:17:58.000)
hitch a ride. Hey, somebody's fly and subway right? You know, rich people be like, Hey, wait, drop me on your plane real quick. Take the tank. I like it. It's gonna be a long trip. It'll be a lot more than $80,000 to drive that tank from Austin to
Dan (01:18:13.000)
rallies along the way. Oh, and paved the path. I like it. So we got a headline here.
Alex Jones (01:18:19.000)
Remember this came out last week was in Der Spiegel it was in the German news. This is what the great reset looks like. Germany's greens plan to ban native Germans from a third of jobs promote diversity. They don't just bring in outside populations, they then don't let you have a job. German greens plan to ban native German trim a third of jobs promote diversity.
Dan (01:18:42.000)
So this isn't true. A member of the greens parliamentary group recently said quote by the end of 2026, a third of all newly advertised positions in the city should be filled by applicants with a migration background. This is a headline that Alex is reading from summit dot news. Paul Joseph Watson sight and just on its face, the way this is being reported is convoluted. Here's how the article starts, quote, In the name of promoting diversity ruling greens in the German in the German city of Hanover plan to ban a third of native citizens from applying for government jobs so they can be given to migrants. Yes, really? Wow. How is a third of city jobs ideally being filled by non German born citizens the equivalent of banning a third of native citizens from applying for those jobs. That's just nonsense. Unless Paul somehow believes that the only jobs available in Hanover are from the city. Paul reports it this way because it's a much more flashy headline then city aims for 30% immigrant workforce. Paul's version is easier for Alex to yell about and get his audience nice and scared with. That's why he writes the completely nonsensical and dishonest title that he does. It's because Paul's role is to churn out rage bait, the demagogues like Alex can then use to incite their audiences. Here's the part of the story that Paul doesn't want to bring up and neither does Alex Hanover's population is only 78%, German born aiming for a city workforce of approximately 30%, non German born individuals is really not too far off from accurately reflecting the city's demographic makeup. Considering that the 30% that they're talking about is a goal, not a mandate, it's likely that they'll fall short of that number. And maybe, maybe they'll hit 22% immigrant hires, which would be exactly representational of the city as a whole. Yeah, this is outrage based on nothing. And it's actually based on less than nothing. It's based on a willful ignorance of basic reality, because that reality would get in the way of being able to agitate against groups of people you don't like, and you want your audience not to, like, pure and simple.
Jordan (01:20:47.000)
Ah, you know, it is it is that classic race thing, though. It is that classic, just, you know, like, if their lives get better, that means your life has to get worse. And it's always that argument. You know, it's been that way for so long. It's been that way. It's why you know, that unions couldn't integrate, you know, 100 years ago. And it's always that, like, nobody can really break through the skulls of so many people that if everybody's life gets better, everybody's life gets better. Everybody, that includes you. It includes you. Right, you are also everybody. Yeah, but
Dan (01:21:30.000)
I think saying I think there's some people who want other people's lives not to be better. That is definitely true. Their names are Paul and Alex, and many others. So Alex is a guest on and this is weird.
Alex Jones (01:21:42.000)
And the John Birch Society was founded more than what was it 60 plus years ago, when an army officer John Birch, who didn't go along with the CIA in 1949, handing all the power to Mao Zedong and a feat Chiang Kai-Shek. He was tortured to death. And so the term the John Birch Society was founded. I'm not a member of the John Birch Society. But my dad read their writings and woke up when he was young. My grandfather, his father was aware of it. As a teenager did radio broadcast in Dallas. He drive up from our ranch 100 miles south of there every weekend to do him. And the John Birch Society if you don't read the books, and the interviews and the speeches they gave, it all was right. It all came true. Show you wonder why Alex Jones is tomorrow's news today. Well, 50 years news today is the John Birch Society and Robert Owens joins us live balanced the our national council member of the John Birch Society, holy
Jordan (01:22:38.000)
shit, is he on there to say the N word a lot to remind people of the John Birch Society.
Dan (01:22:43.000)
I mean, eventually they will get there. Yeah, say give them time. Yeah. Um, yeah. So Alex is having a representative from the John Birch Society on to talk about how the John Birch Society has been actually right about everything. And they're so great. And apparently, not only was Alex's dad super into the John Birch Society, he did a JBS radio show.
Jordan (01:23:05.000)
That's an issue his grandpa was also into, that's a problem.
Dan (01:23:09.000)
I got some flack, a little bit after the we put out the Alex's War episode. There was a part that Alex was downplaying his family's John Birch Society connection. Right, right. And I got a little bit of flack for like, I think his dad. Maybe had read a book, but Oh, come on.
Jordan (01:23:32.000)
This is a fuck off.
Dan (01:23:33.000)
Yeah, Alex selectively deploys information about what his ideological background is. Because it's advantageous. Yeah. And in a setting like that fucking dumbass documentary. It's not advantageous for him to be like the John Birch Society or profit to the best ever. Yeah, he knows that he knows that will make him
Jordan (01:23:49.000)
look bad. Yeah, Alex's backstory is I think similar to like, in The Dark Knight when the Joker was describing how he got scars, and he changed the story every time. Yeah. Because that's the Joker. You shouldn't believe what He says. Reminds me of Alex.
Dan (01:24:08.000)
Yeah, there's similarities. Yeah. Sue Alex isn't a member, which is weird. Why isn't
Alex Jones (01:24:15.000)
to say the John Birch Society your founder had been vindicated. My friend, Robert Owens is an understatement. Why don't you start a little history of the JBS? The original Alex Jones.
Robert Owens (01:24:27.000)
Why thank you. Thank you so much, Alex, for having me on the show. And I wouldn't be much of a Bircher if I didn't begin by saying, if you're not a member, let me invite you to join the John Birch Society.
Dan (01:24:39.000)
And why won't he?
Jordan (01:24:41.000)
I don't know. Maybe it would make him sound fucking crazy,
Dan (01:24:44.000)
right? Yeah, yeah, that because if he was a proud member of the John Birch Society, maybe that would come up when he's on Rogan, you think or maybe when he's trying to pass himself off as some kind of a non Crazy John Birch Society extreme right wing fucking finatic then it wouldn play against him.
Jordan (01:25:02.000)
I remember him being above it all. Yeah, I remember him being above that left right paradigm. Well,
Dan (01:25:09.000)
you could make an argument that the the fascist leaning in service of large corporations, right rooted in the National Association of Manufacturers, right, right. Anti communism because we all have huge corporations that would suffer financially by workers having rights the terrible you know, maybe that is a little bit above
Jordan (01:25:33.000)
it all. I mean, it is maybe a different paradigm that they have chopped out of a magazine and then put on top of ours.
Dan (01:25:44.000)
Maybe it is above it all to be like the civil rights movement was a communist conspiracy, and I wish Rhodesia still existed.
Jordan (01:25:50.000)
Yeah,
Dan (01:25:50.000)
maybe maybe it is. Yeah, maybe a fucking a worm. Yeah. Anyway, Alex loves this dude. This this Owens guy,
Alex Jones (01:26:00.000)
powerful Robert Owens. I'm missing let you host the rest of the hour. I'm gonna come back introduce you knock it out of the park. But man John Birch Society, Robert Welsh, you're talking about the best areas. Stay with us.
Dan (01:26:12.000)
Holy shit. He doesn't actually hand off the show. But this is some of the most glowing praise I've heard him publicly make for the Robert Welch is admitting that he's aware who Robert Welch is, is wild. That's not good. No, it's not. It's not good. Well, but I mean, it is good on some fronts because at least it's fucking fourth. Right? Yeah, yeah, that's true. You know, not playing some kind of a peekaboo mask game. It's
Jordan (01:26:37.000)
the most I've heard anybody praise the John Birch Society. You haven't
Dan (01:26:41.000)
heard this guy in probably haven't heard the guests. Oh, that's not gonna be good. He loves them. Oh, man. He was a part of him. He's basically a recruiter. Right. That's why he's an army recruiter. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, they have some candidates. They're really excited about this. The JPS Hey,
Jordan (01:26:55.000)
you can go to college if you go to the JPS.
Robert Owens (01:26:58.000)
But here's the exciting part. There are unbelievable warriors. I'm gonna give you a name Jr. Maciejewski, a fellow running for Congress in the Toledo area against Marcy Kaptur, a 38 year member of Congress, he is killing it. He is on the warfare fighting and battling and taking this this stabs and the worst stabs are from the establishment Republicans Alex stab, it's not really a Democrat problem. It's the Republican problem because they don't want constitutionalists in Congress. And you're exactly right.
Dan (01:27:28.000)
You might recognize that dude's name because he's the guy who's been accused recently of Stolen Valor for misrepresenting his service. He claimed that he was in combat in Afghanistan, but there are no records of that. And his claim that his deployment was classified has been questioned by experts. Even if it were classified what he was doing, there's still ways he could corroborate that deployment, which he has failed to do. Also, it turns out he was dishonest about why he couldn't reenlist after his first stretch in the Air Force. He apparently was stationed at a base in Okinawa and got popped for drunk driving mere days before 9/11 Which led to him being demoted from Airman First Class to basic airman. This mess has resulted in the GOP not being really hot on him anymore. As you know, the stabs from the Republicans. Yeah, but it's good to see that he says the birchers behind him. He's running against Marcy Kaptur, who's been in office since 1983. So I don't know if I'm gonna put too much money on Jr. here. The district though, was widely reshaped in 2020, which led to a much higher GOP voting percentage, but it might not be enough. I'm not entirely sure. You know, it went from a heavily pro Democrat district. Yeah. In the cook partisan index, right. A slightly Republican one. So it's, it's it's a toss up. So yeah. But I wouldn't put my money on this level of a candidate right with a toss up. Right,
Jordan (01:28:52.000)
right. It's,
Dan (01:28:53.000)
he seems like he sucks. Yeah. That's not good. Also, he was in the January 6, riot. Ah, man,
Jordan (01:28:59.000)
he was there. Oh, that's cool. Kitten, is it? Can you do that? I feel like you can't do that. Apparently.
Dan (01:29:05.000)
You can. No, no. So like I said, I've rarely heard Alex have like specific awareness about things in the JBS because you know, he tries to play fast and loose. I just heard some of their ideas when they were younger. You don't want to be associated with the John. My dad had a friend over who liked them, right or something. But now Alex loves Robert Welch.
Alex Jones (01:29:26.000)
Why I don't want to get into a groveling Sideshow or him but Robert Welch was just a super genius.
Robert Owens (01:29:33.000)
Well, he really was this was a guy that age 16 graduated from college. By the time he was 20. He had been to the US Naval Academy and Harvard Law School
Dan (01:29:43.000)
guy was pretty accomplished, but also he was a candy man
Alex Jones (01:29:46.000)
and in the free market economy. He literally took over the whole candy market. They go oh, he's a candy maker. Like that puts him down that a super competitive market. He could dominate it.
Robert Owens (01:29:58.000)
Yeah, so he invented things. He's like the Sugar Daddy Junior Mints.
Dan (01:30:02.000)
So the company that Welch was that invented those candies, but what Alex and this dude are saying isn't really true. Welch's business, Oxford candy company went out of business. His brother James also ran a candy company called the James O Welch company, which survived and after Oxford collapsed, James hired Robert but sure. He was the best businessman ever and he took over the candy markets single handedly.
Jordan (01:30:24.000)
What was it? We what was the one we created a behind the bastards? Who took what was just fuckstick? Is that how good it was? Terrible? Because that badly? Yeah, I
Dan (01:30:33.000)
don't remember. But yeah, we were on an episode of Behind the bastards about Robert Welch. Even more. That is there. Yep. So look, we got one last clip here. And it's because I'm not interested in hearing this goddamn recruiter for the John Birch Society on Alex's show. But it is relevant to bring up that this is recruitment. That is what this is. And you can hear it pretty clearly here.
Robert Owens (01:30:57.000)
Let's explore liberty. So here's the thing, what my recommendation is, if you mean business, if you want to be part of an organization that is going to give you the absolute best information going, go to jbs dot org and sign up, they will put you in touch with a local field officer guys like me, all over the country, we have some of the most unbelievable men and women as professionals that that can put you in a specific action agenda chapter where you're going to be doing things where you're actually going to be making a difference in pushing the purpose of liberty not just as an academic exercise, but as a specific political pursuit. So this
Dan (01:31:43.000)
is kind of an interesting development in Alex's path, whatever the fuck he's doing now. You have a JBS recruiter who's coming in. Alex is showing more awareness and forgiving, effusive praise about Robert Welch. organization as a whole. Yeah, everything. He's insinuating himself in involvement, the JBS far more than he usually does. And it's in service of leading to this guy pitching. Hey, if you're serious, you should join the John Birch Society. Yeah. And I think that's weird. It sounds like brokered programming. Yeah, honestly.
Jordan (01:32:23.000)
Yeah. Yeah. No, it sounds like a multilevel marketing scheme. Getting a an hour on a free radio show.
Dan (01:32:29.000)
There are feelings like that. I know that Alex, like from everything that I understand from listening to as much of him as I have. I don't think that this is out of line with his philosophies. No, no, no, his ideology is exactly that. He will save you money. I think in the past, he has been far more cautious about giving too much public airing to his love of the John Birch Society. Yeah. He has in the past, obviously made some overtures. There's a bit more. And in the past, it was not always in the context of interviewing a recruiter. Yeah. Who's trying to funnel listeners to the recruitment phone lines. Yeah,
Jordan (01:33:13.000)
that one's tough. Yeah, that one's tough. I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to maybe it's just that the I you know, I don't think the JBS is really known that well, anymore. Right. Well,
Dan (01:33:26.000)
I what it stands for is slipped a little from public conscience. Yeah,
Jordan (01:33:30.000)
I think it's I think it is more like, you know, you can say it now because most people don't even fucking know what you're talking about.
Dan (01:33:37.000)
Yeah. Also absent in their discussion of the past of the, the JBS? They don't talk about Fred Koch. No, they don't talk about Revilo P. Oliver. Nope. So don't talk about the, you know, the connections between like the Nazi party. I think they had a slightly different name to the National Alliance.
Jordan (01:33:58.000)
Sure, sure. Sure. Yeah.
Dan (01:34:00.000)
Some of that stuff is not so important. But yeah, I found I found that to be troubling.
Jordan (01:34:08.000)
They also didn't talk about how the mythology behind the John Birch Yeah, not true. Well, and
Dan (01:34:14.000)
that people who knew the actual John Birch say that he would not be in support of his name being attached to this organization. Yeah. They leave that out. Yeah. Because why Why ruin a good time? You know, what is it it just disrespect the person we're claiming is the inspiration organization
Jordan (01:34:32.000)
A name is just a name. It's a public domain name. I think we're mad about it. Then we'll just say it's about a different John Birch.
Dan (01:34:37.000)
Sure you don't care? Well, he couldn't do that because it's so important that he was the first casualties of Cold War. Anyway, look, there's some stuff that's happened. That has sucked. There have been some stuff that's been dumb. Yeah, but man, there is nothing more like
Jordan (01:34:53.000)
him calling it a synthetic event again.
Dan (01:34:56.000)
I can't I can't can't believe it. I I can't even put into words how much I can't believe how stupid he is.
Jordan (01:35:03.000)
I just I mean, it's it is eventually I mean, it's just, it's not even stupid. He just cannot stop himself. He has no self control whatsoever. If you want him to stop saying or doing something, either his entire audience has to not pay attention, or stop giving him money for it, or you have to shut him. You have to shut him down.
Dan (01:35:25.000)
Yeah, I guess I was gonna say that it's kind of stupid to have no self control and not work on that. Right. But then I kind of, you know, if you think about it a little bit more, that lack of self control is essential to him being able to put on the show that he does. Yeah,
Jordan (01:35:41.000)
he's made up a half a billion dollars not having a lack of control. Yeah. And 10
Dan (01:35:45.000)
To learn self control and practice it would probably hurt him more. Oh, yeah. And him just being like, Fuck, I defamed these people again. Oh, totally. Totally. But he's not so dumb that he leaves. He doesn't edit it out. Yeah.
Jordan (01:36:01.000)
Yeah. You know, how it is like there is an entire structure based around making sure Alex continues to behave the way he does. Whether whether the pressure is like, it's all him. Right? But I don't think the pressure is direct. Like, oh, Alex, you need to keep doing the Alex, you need to do this or anything just so much as it is like, Hey, man, if I stopped for a second, all of these people are going to lose all of their money
Dan (01:36:30.000)
or whatever job. Yeah, everything. Oh, no. Owen Shroyer will be out of work.
Jordan (01:36:34.000)
I mean, I think he's talking more about his family and that kind of stuff. Gold buried everywhere. Yeah. But whatever. Bunch of assholes.
Dan (01:36:43.000)
Totally. Yeah. Anyway, we'll be back.
Jordan (01:36:45.000)
Indeed we will.
Dan (01:36:48.000)
I'm interested to see how the aftermath of this plays out in the real world in a courtroom. Yeah. And we'll see that court starts back on Tuesday, so we'll see what we'll see. What transpires probably won't be good. Nope. They will be back until then. Jordan we have a website
Jordan (01:37:04.000)
Indeed we do. It's Knowledge Fight dot com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Dan (01:37:09.000)
We will be back but until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm Desaix Clark. I am Wilford Snibble Snabble of the Gribble Pibble, and now here comes the sex robots.
Alex Jones (01:37:19.000)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Andy In Kansas (01:37:23.000)
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
Alex Jones (01:37:26.000)
I love you.
