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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledgefight.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Need money.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Riddle her.
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Andy and Candace.
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Andy and Candace.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Candace.
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Andy and Candace.
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Andy and Candace.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Candace.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.
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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, I guess, is that I have decided the Year of the Mustard
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is happening.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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There are going to be details revealed moving forward.
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Details revealed.
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Okay.
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Because we have to do this differently than last time.
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No.
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It wasn't a disaster.
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It wasn't a disaster, but it was our first draft.
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Right.
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All right?
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It was our first draft.
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We learned a lot of lessons from-
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Editing is important.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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And you have to have a fearless inventory of failures, and I took some time.
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I searched my soul, and I've identified a couple of real basic things that were done
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wrong.
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Right.
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And I'm going to correct those wrongs and make this the best Year of the Mustard ever.
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But of course, our years begin on 4-20s, so 4-20 will be the beginning of the Year of
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the Mustard.
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Naturally.
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Because that makes as much sense as anything else we do.
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Yeah.
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It's a Stoner New Year or something, even though I don't smoke weed.
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No.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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So the Year of the Mustard is going to happen.
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Get hyped.
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Live from the globalist headquarters, the Year of the Mustard is happening.
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Yeah.
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I'm very excited.
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I have so many Mustards I'm excited to try.
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Yeah.
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I'm excited.
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Are you going to put a new section on the website?
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Maybe not on the website, but we'll figure out somewhere to house the Mustards.
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The Mustard reviews?
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There will be pictures of each Mustard as well.
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That was something I failed last year.
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This is one of the failures.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I didn't have pictures of myself with all of the seltzers.
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Sure.
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No, no, no.
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This year.
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Pictures of myself.
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Selfies.
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Mustard selfies.
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We do.
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Yeah.
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No, I didn't realize that.
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We can do it for the Gram.
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Yes, we do.
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Oh, wow.
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We can do it for the Gram, buddy.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Look for that.
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So yeah, I'm excited.
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Yes.
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What about you?
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I'm excited too.
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My bright spot is my wife.
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My wife.
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Yeah, I know, right?
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She...
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We're legally obligated to do that.
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We're on a podcast.
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It's not my...
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It's my fault.
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I should have called her my partner.
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That may be the real reason.
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Not respect for anything.
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No, she purchased for me for my birthday a bicycle.
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Ooh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I saw that.
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Did you know that bicycles are expensive?
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Yes.
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Now, I am willing to throw out my first ever absolute unqualified advertisement, not paid
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for.
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Working bikes is fucking incredible.
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Is that the name of the company?
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That's the name of the place.
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It's a Chicago company.
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It's fucking amazing.
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They take old bikes, refurbish them, they sell them for a few hundred bucks, place is
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cool as shit.
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Everybody who works there is like, knows too much about bikes.
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It's basically kind of like a little bit like a recycling.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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It's great.
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It's the first bike I've had about 10 years.
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The last one I had was stolen after three weeks.
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Sure.
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So I'm...
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Expect that to happen again.
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I'm rooting for this one to stay here for a full month.
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Fingers crossed.
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I'm excited.
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Are you wearing a helmet?
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Yes.
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Good.
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Yep.
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Good news.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We are back in the past for a number of reasons.
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Good news.
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We're talking about July 25th, 2003, and there's a couple of reasons.
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The first is that Alex was out of town for most of this week, going to do his deposition
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in Connecticut.
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He had to go to Connecticut.
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Costily deposition in Connecticut.
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But he'll probably get a lot of the stall money back, so it wasn't that costly, although
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tickets to Connecticut.
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I mean, flight tickets, yeah.
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Sure.
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Short notice.
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The cost of hanging out with Norm Paddis.
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You know?
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Infinite.
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Infinite.
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It's like that MasterCard commercial.
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But the opposite.
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Priceless.
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Correct.
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In reverse.
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In reverse.
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So yeah, he's been out of studio for a good bit of time.
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And honestly, I think that largely Infowars content at the present day, you can pretty
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much predict everything that they're going to be talking about.
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It's going to be amplification and more extreme versions of this labeling LGBTQ folk as grooming,
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and that whole narrative, they're going to be amplifying that.
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It's going to be yelling about the Supreme Court.
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It's going to be Alex justifying Putin's behavior.
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I don't know.
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I'm not into it.
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There's nothing more to say about his transphobia that we didn't already cover with his homophobia
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20 years ago.
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It's one of the things that I kind of find is a sticking point.
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I mean, what are you going to say?
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The fascists have chosen the trans people, the trans community, to try and wedge their
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fucking nightmarish bullshit into the rest of our lives.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, it's scary.
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And it's vicious.
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It's awful.
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And unacceptable in every way, and shall be not tolerated.
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You bet.
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So I wanted to go back to the past, but we also have another little bit of business,
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I believe.
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Of an announcement.
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That is, we have a crazy month coming up.
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That's one way of putting it.
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You are going to be on vacation, on your honeymoon, in quotes.
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Heavy quotes.
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Heavy quotes.
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They're all honeymoons.
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Sure.
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So you're going to be gone, and then you're going to be back.
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And then on April 25th, Alex's trial in Austin begins.
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And we will be going to Austin.
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I mean, we don't have a choice, really.
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It's kind of, you described it as our Comic-Con.
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It really is kind of our Comic-Con, isn't it?
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I guess.
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There's not much else to call it.
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I think that we have to approach it with an air of more dignity than that.
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Sure, I understand.
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I understand.
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I don't want you dressing up as like David Knight.
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Not gonna happen.
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Showing up at the court.
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Not gonna happen.
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But yeah, we're going to be in Austin for an extended stay over the course of the trial.
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And ideally providing daily updates of the goings on in Austin.
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The ideal situation.
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So in theory, we won't have regular episodes during that time.
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It will be a two-week miniseries, essentially, of our adventure in Austin at the trial.
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Yeah.
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It'll be interesting.
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Yeah.
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We've never done that before.
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No, we have not.
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It's uncharted territory.
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It is a great wide open.
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And we'll see if it's a complete disaster.
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It might be.
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Yeah, I mean, we'll just do it so where you'll pretend that you play a clip, right?
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And I'll try and remember what it was Alex said, and I'll do the voice.
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There may be no...
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And then we'll talk about it like I didn't.
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There may be no clips.
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Well, how could there be?
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There's not going to be any clips.
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No.
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So yeah, that's stuff to look forward to.
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There's some other stuff.
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I may do an episode about Russell Brand at some point.
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Still thinking about that.
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All things are possible.
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But yeah, this month is- It's going to be intense.
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Looking out in front of it is...
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Oof.
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Yep, yep.
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But when we look back at it, it'll be great.
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Fingers crossed.
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Or we will be dead by then.
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You know, who knows?
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It's a possibility.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today, like I said, we've got this episode to go over, but first let's say hello
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to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Roger Stone's orgy janitor.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, you forced my hand, space.
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Now I have to nuke the moon.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, Playboy buddy Rose.
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Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, Zap Action Rousdour.
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Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much Zap.
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And spaghetti is a good dog.
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Please don't throw him at the wall.
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Also, hi mom.
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Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix.
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All right.
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Uh, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat to my wife can't remember what episode her
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shout out is on, so here you go, Kristen.
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Okay.
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So that's, you're a technocrat.
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Right.
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And this other one, this is a correction.
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Okay.
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So in the last episode, we called this person a policy wonk.
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Oh no.
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And they threatened legal action.
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Well, I mean, that is reasonable.
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They threatened to sic Barnes on me.
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That is trouble.
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And so, I have to say, the Boschke, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I have risen above my enemies.
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I might quit tomorrow.
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Actually.
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I'm just going to take a little break.
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You know, a little breaky for me.
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And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over, but I'm the
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devil.
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I got to be taking all the hair off, you know, all this.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world
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order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
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Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
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That's really what I want to do.
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I never want to come back here again.
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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns
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on air.
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I'll be better tomorrow.
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I think that if tomorrow is the past, he's better than the present.
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Well, he will be better yesterday then.
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That's true.
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And tomorrow comes today.
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Right.
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And that's not going to be good.
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No.
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So we start off here and Alex is getting a little bit introspective about how he never
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does his job.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I could appreciate a little.
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20 years, huh?
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Yeah.
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I am a frustrated individual.
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I can spend the next three hours on just four or five news stories that I have here in front
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of me.
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Instead, I reviewed the articles I never got to in the last four days.
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I sat here and went through the stacks this week and there were over 200 news articles
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that I read and printed that I never covered on air.
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There were several hundred that we did cover on air.
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Absolutely not.
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There were not several hundred that he covered on air.
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I can't imagine him covering several hundred of anything on air.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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I do kind of appreciate that.
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I mean, one thing you could do is just be like, hey, it's a slow news day.
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We're going to catch up on things that slip through the cracks.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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That might be a more savvy way to present this than like, hey, I got a lot of news to
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cover today, but I fucked up and didn't cover a hundred news stories in the last four
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days.
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So explain to me at what point you decide I'm never going to cover more than 50 stories.
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Oh man.
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Right?
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So then let's only print out 50 stories, man.
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What are we doing printing out 200 stories?
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You never need more than one page.
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You never need more than one page.
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You need one page that has a couple of talking points on it, a couple of headlines.
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He needs a vision board like in front of him with copy and pasted or like a magazine articles,
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like a ransom note in front of him that he can just read off of.
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Yeah.
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Or just the Drudge Report's front page.
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Yeah.
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That'll work too.
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Yeah.
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Print that out and make it big.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has a story out of the San Francisco Chronicle.
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Ooh.
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SFC.
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This is a big, big, big news.
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Take this article from yesterday out of the San Francisco Chronicle.
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This is one of the ones he missed.
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Right.
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But it says at the Bohemian Grove, Arnold Schwarzenegger was chosen as the heir apparent
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in the runoff race.
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The recall race that's coming up against governor gun grab open borders and new world order
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shill Davis.
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Is that his full name?
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It talks about the Bohemian Grove and the Republican leaders national and state there
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in secret and that they have told the press that they want Arnold Schwarzenegger to run
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and that if he runs that he's got their blessing.
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If not, there's a quote, another liberal Republican that they want to run liberal Republican.
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This is where the bushes go.
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So I couldn't find this exact article that Alex is talking about in the San Francisco
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Chronicle.
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I was able to find articles in the Chronicle from around this time that I get, I know what
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he's talking about and it's basically that the former mayor of Los Angeles, Richard Reardon,
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he had said that he was going to run, but he wouldn't if Arnold ran.
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Right.
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And he's a more liberal Republican.
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That's what Alex is talking about.
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Right.
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And I guess this is around the same time that the Bohemian Club meets at the Grove.
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Sure.
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And so there's some word that maybe they wanted Arnold to run or like some of the elites wanted
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Arnold to run.
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But this dude drops out before maybe he necessarily even began campaigning.
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Reardon?
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, it's a mad dash for the governorship.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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At this point in time, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm very excited about the fact that the recall election is about to happen in Alex's life
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because this was wild stuff.
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It was nuts.
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There were like 200 candidates.
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It was nuts.
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Yeah.
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It was nuts.
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Gary Coleman ran.
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It was absolutely nuts.
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Mary Carey.
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I mean, yeah, it was one of those things where you're like, yeah, yeah, that is one of those
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uniquely Californian things.
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For as much as guy from Florida, et cetera, you know the rule.
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California has those completely different sets of things where you're like, no, that's
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them.
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It didn't happen here in Illinois.
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That's for sure.
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I think the recall election of 2003 is probably one of the more bizarre events of the state
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politic.
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It resembled more the wacky races.
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And it definitely is, like, I can't wait to see it through Alex's eyes.
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I know that he hates Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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I know that.
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Oh, he already sounds like it.
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I don't know what he thinks about Cruz Bustamante, but I know that he's a Democrat, so Alex probably
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hates him.
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I hope he tries to say his name at least once.
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I would love it if- Cruz Bustamante.
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I don't know who Alex would back in this race, but he's got to talk to-
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Could be Coleman.
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Could be.
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Could end up being a Coleman guy.
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Could be a Coleman guy.
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So yeah, this really gets me going, because there's a lot of really dark topics, and it's
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sometimes hard to dwell on those too much.
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And this, I think, will be fairly silly, and Alex will be very mad about stuff for no reason.
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This is going to be great.
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So we have some predictions that Alex makes that I think are not very good.
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We're on the edge of war with North Korea.
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North Korea says if there's not a deal, they're going to go ahead and nuke us on September
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9th.
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Sure, sure.
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Rumsfeld's got battle plans to launch an attack in October that he leaked to push North Korea
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into an escalation, which has now happened.
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If you believe these photos of the Saddam sons are real, I got a bridge I want to sell
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you.
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They reek of being fake.
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Oh my God.
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I want that bridge.
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I want that bridge.
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Remember, they claim they've killed them.
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Good for a good deal.
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They were at times, and they killed Chemical Ali, and he's still alive, and I thought they'd
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found the body.
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There's mindless psychological victories in this sports fan society.
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Yeah, so Alex is ramping up the idea of North Korea nuking us, which did not happen, and
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he's still insisting these pictures of Saddam's sons, and the whole thing is fake, which it
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was not.
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It does make me laugh now to think back on how a lot of people were like, North Korea
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has nukes, man.
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They're crazy.
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They could nuke us at any time, and now we live in 2022, and it's like, they still couldn't
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shoot a rocket far enough to hit us with a nuke.
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Not a chance.
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It's 20 years later, and there's no way they hit us with a nuke.
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I think you're probably right, but I also think that in these conversations, it's always
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best to approach with a little bit of trepidation.
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No, I dare them to nuke Chicago, yes.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Dear Kim Jong-un.
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So this whole California gubernatorial race is bringing out some demons in Alex, and these
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demons are forcing him to attack one of his own.
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And by one of his own, I mean another bigot who yells on the radio.
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Uh-oh.
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Michael Savage?
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That's the one.
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Yeah!
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And yes, Michael Savage, the beatnik, super ultra-liberal, so ultra-liberal he is able
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to clone conservatives into liberal, neo-con minions, he's announced he'll be exploring
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an exploration, yes, another double-speak, exploring an exploration of governor as independent.
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That will pull real conservative votes away and ensure that Davis stays in office.
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Again, as the key operative, he is there as the shill.
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As plain as day, it's a political fact, folks.
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Do the math.
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We'll be right back.
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Yeah, so Michael Savage, I guess, is talking shit about considering running.
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Sure.
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And Davis has decided that, I mean, at this point in his career, Alex does hate Michael
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Savage and he thinks he's a big old liberal, so he's the spoiler.
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He's gonna come in and suck the conservative votes out and make it so Cruz Bustamante wins.
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So, using his liberal lies that he's pretending to be a conservative, he's gonna go get the
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independents, right, and they're gonna be conservatives because the conservatives wouldn't
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support Republicans because Republicans are clearly liberals and Democrats are fucking,
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I mean, they're not demons yet.
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No, that's true.
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What are Democrats now?
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Well, demons aren't really in play.
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Not yet.
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Because you'd look silly if you were yelling about that in 2003.
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Yeah, there's 200 people trying to become California governor.
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You can't be talking about demons.
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There's 200 people trying to become governor of California and there's 500 people who have
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declared themselves the president of Texas.
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That's true.
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Shit is out of control.
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That is true.
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You gotta get that under handle first.
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Yeah.
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Well, let's go to this next clip because I think it could, like, legitimately, this could
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be played any year on Alex's show and you wouldn't be able to be like, well, that seems
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out of place.
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I cannot stress enough the critical juncture we have all reached in history.
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We have America's liberties and freedoms being put into a wood chipper.
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That doesn't mean anything.
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Yeah.
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It could be, he says in 2003, 2004, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
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Absolutely.
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All the way down to the present day.
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It's always the case.
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We're at the most critical juncture of all time.
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And we could even pick, like, whatever bigotry of the day we're dealing with.
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Just pick a year and he's like, uh, making gay cakes, that'll be the end of ever, destroying
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a constitution.
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True.
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I saw a meme.
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Obamacare, that's gonna cause a, you know, it doesn't matter, everything.
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Anything.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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It's just a shocking realization of, like, the triviality of what he talks about mixed
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in with the very serious and real things that have consequences like that bigotry.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's just a little bit disheartening, just, you know, just seeing the present mirrored
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so clearly in the past of, this is the most important thing ever, you don't even remind,
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he doesn't know what he was talking about there.
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No clue.
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Is he talking about savage running?
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We're at a critical juncture!
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Juncture!
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Come on, man!
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So anyway, it's the United States, liberties.
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What about them?
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Wood chipper.
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Wood chipper destroyed.
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Uh-oh.
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We see the size of government growing at record rates.
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We have a $43 trillion deficit, according to the Dallas Morning News and Top Economist.
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We have a neoconservative movement viciously attacking our Second Amendment rights, savaging
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our borders, savaging our troops, signing on to huge UN treaties while putting out the
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rhetoric that they're against the UN and fooling shallow-minded conservatives.
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We're in the midst of a massive sneak attack, ladies and gentlemen.
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Again, if this was a military base, we're on fire.
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The buildings are shattered wrecks, uh, strewn bodies are everywhere, a few of us are stumbling
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around with shrapnel holes and blood streaming, and our compadres, who should be awakened
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and then should be aware of what's happening, are walking around with bloody faces saying,
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I love George Bush, as capital ships of the neocon army set off at a distance blasting
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what's left of America.
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And again, as America is blown to bits, figuratively and literally, the neocons dance around saying,
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oh, it's manna from heaven, thank you so much.
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I think there's such a thing as getting lost in a metaphor, you know, like, I think sometimes
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you can hear somebody speak so eloquently that you're like, oh, I just got caught up
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in that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is that, but the reverse.
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You're caught up in the confusion.
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Yeah, see, I feel like he got caught up in the story.
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He thought he was making a metaphor, right?
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And then he was like, actually, I kind of really like this story.
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And I also want it to be literal.
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So he gets into this movie mode where he's like, oh man, these people with blood streaming
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down their faces saying, I love George Bush.
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Like what does that mean?
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What is that an allegory for?
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Well, it's the mindless neocons who have blood on their face.
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See, that's again an issue for me.
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It's literal.
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He said it's figurative and literal.
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How do you think they're saying it if they've got blood all over their face, you know?
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I love George Bush.
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That's a lot of blood.
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They're in a tank of blood.
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That's where he went with it.
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I'm Brody.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Regroup.
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These folks who are the enemies, according to Alex, they're basically America, but they're
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not America.
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Oh shit.
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They're hiding as America.
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Oh, okay.
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Mushroom clouds are enveloping everything that our veterans have fought and died for.
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What the flag symbolizes is being trashed and flushed down the toilet.
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And the enemy's uniform is the American flag as they run around butchering the country.
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Their uniforms are the American flag.
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It's an enemy sneak attack.
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Wolves in sheep's clothing, Trojan horse, camouflage, mayday.
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The enemy's in our uniforms.
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Watch out.
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We're under attack.
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There's another one.
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Get down.
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It's happening right now.
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I think Alex is into flights of fancy today.
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I mean, he's having a little fun.
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Yeah.
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He's going to places.
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There's life within his bones.
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That's for sure.
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He's doing character work.
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Oh my God.
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Wait until a little bit later.
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He gets deep into a character.
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He does a one man show.
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It's nuts.
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All right, I'm going to do Mark Twain.
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I think there's trouble with the enemy's uniform as the American flag.
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I think when you establish that as kind of your mindset, you basically get to just randomly
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choose who your enemy is.
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Well, I mean, it does seem like what he's saying is everyone is possibly behind the
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attack on you personally, so you should never be confident unless they also love me.
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But even if they love me, they could be lying to you.
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Fear.
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Anybody who expresses like a patriotism or love of country is probably suspect if they're
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not weirdos like me.
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Strangely enough, the only people you could trust have declared themselves King of Texas.
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No, you can't trust those dudes.
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So Michael Savage also, you can't trust.
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You can't trust him.
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He's an enemy operative.
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He's an enemy of the beatniks.
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I actually tuned in to hear Lord Savage, Mr. Put anyone that disagrees with the government
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in a forced labor camp, take their assets, disagreeing with the government is treason.
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And again, it was a big San Jose Mercury news story with him with a big Karl Marx beard
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in the beatnik outfit.
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I mean, you talk about trash of the earth, folks.
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The guy wrote books about how wonderful the Sovietization of America would be.
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He loved, uh, Allen Ginsberg, who I don't need to comment about.
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I mean, it's just as sick as it gets.
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Oh, who wrote poems about how wonderful Moloch is.
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I've got to have that part.
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And, uh, that's what you took away from Ginsberg?
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He said everything you want to hear.
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He says the right things on a bunch of issues, but then always slides the poison in.
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Patriot acts good, blah, blah, blah.
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Bush is okay.
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He said, uh, he's thinking about running for governor as an independent.
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Now, he was going to run as a Republican and really carry out those policies and say, okay,
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let's see if he does it once he gets selected.
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And I predict he wouldn't, but he would stall the whole agenda because the guy's an operative
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folks, very sophisticated.
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This is an accusation of the Savage knowingly being in on this operation.
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Right.
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He's an operative.
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He's not just somebody who's, you know, not doing the right thing, according to Alex.
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No, it's not someone who's misguided.
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It's someone who's in on a conspiracy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's a little silly.
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He's, uh, uh, now obviously his radio show comes first, of course, but 20 years before
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this in the early eighties, okay.
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The CIA came to Michael Savage while he was a beatnik and they were like, man, you got
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to get out of this.
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He might've been like writing diet books at that point.
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Okay.
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Well then man, you got to get out of this diet game.
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Right.
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All right.
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Get into the radio industry, get famous enough to where you can run for governor during one
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of the most chaotic times that anybody's ever run for governor of California.
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Then you'll be able to get the conservative.
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What is the plan?
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I don't, it's, it's basically that I forgot what the end goal is to get cruising.
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But here's the problem, right?
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There's no demons.
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Well, Alex seems to think that gray Davis can win after he's been recalled.
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Right.
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But he does.
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He's not running in the recall election.
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Right.
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Because he's been recalled.
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Right.
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He is out and there's a special election to replace him.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex seems to think that like Arnold is going to run and then Savage will run and
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suck the Republican votes away from him.
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So the two of them will cancel each other out and gray Davis will stay in office.
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All right.
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That's kind of the best I can do for you in terms of what I think Alex.
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Davis cannot stay in office.
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I believe so.
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I can't remember if it was a choice or if he just actually couldn't.
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Yeah.
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I think it's a choice.
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Newsome ran again whenever he got.
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But he didn't get recalled.
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Oh, that's true.
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They were going.
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They were threatening to recall.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You're right.
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I know.
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I am.
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I am.
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I wish I had a better understanding of that, but I think that if you get recalled, you
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don't end up in the next election.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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But anyway, Alex thinks that gray Davis is going to win.
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And I mean, he's wrong, but there is another aspect to this.
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So Michael Savage is the, the, the fly in the ointment as it were, but there's another
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guy who was just like that.
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That's the real hardcore political facts.
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It's like it turned out Ross Perot was having meetings with Hillary Clinton and Mil Clinton.
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Uh, you know, he shows up, it looked like Bush was going to win.
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They wanted to have this staged event.
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They wanted to have the liberal agenda in there, uh, on the surface so that later they
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could have the savior Republican neocon revolution was all scripted out to pull your votes away.
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Uh, of course, Mr. Doesn't like big government made his first big contracts.
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Ross Perot with EDS, with Nelson Rockefeller in New York, administering social security
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and state welfare and bunch of other CIA contracts.
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He was going to get the contract for the national healthcare system.
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And so as soon as he started winning in the polls, he acted all crazy and said, I'm quitting
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and did all this and then jumped back in when it looked like Bush might win.
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Is that what he did?
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It's all staged people.
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Is it?
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And, uh, so you see the key little neocon jumping in to make sure a real Republican
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doesn't win.
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This is definitely not what Alex thinks now.
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No.
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In more recent times, Alex has a completely contradictory narrative about Ross Perot.
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In the present, Alex definitely has said that Perot was the first attempt at a Trump like
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president and he would have won, but the globalist threatened his family.
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So he bowed out of the race.
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It's so bizarre how you go back in history and listen to his show and there are these
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blatant substantive contradictions in 2003, Alex knows that Michael Savage is a knowing
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shill for the globalists trying to suck votes away from a real conservative in the California
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gubernatorial race.
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But a few years later, Alex will swear that he's one of the legends of the Patriot movement.
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He's been a trailblazer for all these years.
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He's the one who changed the game, man.
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In 2003, Alex knows that Ross Perot was working with Bush and Clinton to rig that election,
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but in following years he won't know this anymore, and in fact he knows the opposite
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to be true.
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The reason there are these absurd contradictions is because Alex is just making up reality
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to suit whatever.
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He wants to be true at the moment.
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Whatever makes his job easier and makes him more money is true.
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In 2003, Savage didn't want anything to do with Alex, so he was the enemy.
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In later years, Savage was willing to guest on Alex's show and talk shit about Obama,
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so he became a legend.
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In 2003, Alex had no reason to support any politician other than Ron Paul, so Perot could
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be a bad guy.
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In later years, Alex saw how useful Perot's story could be to reinforce the idea that
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the system was out to get Trump, so he rewrote his narrative to be that Perot was a noble
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hero who the globalists forced out of the race.
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None of this means anything to him.
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It's just an exercise in radicalizing people further to the right, consistently insisting
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that disaster is right around the corner, and then offering no real solution other than
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tuning into Alex's show tomorrow to see what you should be afraid of.
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Yeah.
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That's dumb.
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Yeah, I think people like Alex should not be allowed to talk about people like Ross
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Perot just because you're gonna make up bullshit and it's never going to be as interesting
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as the reality of what Ross Perot was.
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So you want him to keep Ross Perot's name out his mouth?
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Keep Ross Perot's name out - unless you're just telling interesting stories about Ross
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Perot, which are always - hey, Ross Perot gave Bernie Sanders a sword.
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Of course he did.
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But what is a more interesting story than one that's not true?
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I mean, the ones that he did do, where he's like, hey, I'm gonna get like 20 guys together
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and we're gonna overthrow the guy.
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Like, I mean, he's out of his mind.
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Ross Perot's crazy.
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He's the best.
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Sure.
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H. Ross.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, so these are just little fingerprints of like, wow, your story is completely different
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across time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Wonder why that is.
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Oh, wait, it's super fucking obvious.
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Doesn't matter to him.
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So Alex thinks that Savage is going to make it, so Gray Davis wins.
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They got Savage in there, Mr. Weiner, Mr. Michael Weiner, the beatnik guru.
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I mean, we're talking top-level folks, the people that helped bring down the younger
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generation that helped start the 60s breakdown.
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I mean, these are the technicians.
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They're back again.
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The Daddy-O is back, and he's going to be the independent, ensuring that the real hardcore
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conservatives that are fooled by Mr. Weiner and all his fake names and the rest of it
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will not vote for the real Republicans.
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And so you're going to end up with Davis or Schwarzenegger or one of these other liberals.
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And it's in your face, it's as clear as the nose on my face, a five-year-old with basic
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Machiavellian political understanding.
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What?
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Doesn't even take that.
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A four-year-old could figure this out.
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But you know what?
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They're going to love it.
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They're going to love it.
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And Davis is going to stay in office.
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He's not.
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No.
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So Alex at the middle says it's going to be Gray Davis or Schwarzenegger or one of these
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liberals.
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But then at the end, more specific, it's going to be Davis.
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It's going to be Davis.
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And it ain't.
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It is not.
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But yeah, I like the way that he's a stickler for specificity.
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A five-year-old with Machiavellian underste - no, no, no, no, no.
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A four-year-old.
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That is such a fun - I do love that.
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Listen, any five-year-old rocket scientist could understand this rocket science.
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Any five-year-old that's read The Prince is going to be able to handle this shit.
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Any five-year-old with a beyond, I guess, master's degree level education is going to
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be able to understand this.
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Yeah.
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Obviously.
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Sure.
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No, no, no, no.
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No, come on.
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It's a four-year-old.
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Just a four-year-old.
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Three-year-olds with a master's degree don't understand shit.
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It's real bizarre.
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But this is so consistent on this episode that Savage is going to be this guy who ruins
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the chances of an actual conservative winning.
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Right.
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I mean, I think that the writing is on the wall, for the most part, that there's going
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to be a circus, it's going to be nonsense, and Schwarzenegger's probably going to win.
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It seemed that way - it did feel like everybody was kind of almost treating the idea of Arnold
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winning as both an insane thought and an inevitable one.
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You know, everybody was like, there's no way that Arnold Schwarzenegger's going to be our
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governor.
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It's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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I mean, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Probably when Ronald Reagan was -
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Well, I mean, he's got 40% of the vote, so I guess he's going to be our governor.
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So Alex has - I don't know how to say this.
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The Kobe Bryant story, sexual assault story, has come out.
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This was a long time ago.
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And so Alex has some thoughts on it.
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I'm going to present this here.
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Also I'm getting - I mean, it must be a hundred emails a day, faxes, calls about Kobe Bryant.
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Kobe?
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I'm not going to discuss it on my show.
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All right.
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Come on, man.
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I think from the evidence and with my instincts that the guy's innocent, okay?
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I'm not defending the trash that's in the NBA or the NFL or any of these big sports.
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They're a bunch of gang members on power trips.
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They're not role models.
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Oh, boy.
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I mean, you know, it's crazy when your misogyny trumps your bigotry.
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But they're somehow both in the same sentence.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how to handle that response.
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I mean, that's bananas.
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I don't believe her.
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No, I hate all black people.
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What?
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What did you just say?
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As a knee jerk, I think this woman is lying.
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If I were ever credibly accused of that, obviously all women are liars.
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But also, you know, I hate all black people.
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It's a difficult conundrum for Alex Jones.
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Yeah, very, very bizarre.
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I think that if his whole thing was like, I'm not going to talk about this, you shouldn't
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have brought it up because then you just, you know, showed some misogyny and racism
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quite clearly.
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I really can't think of a worse possible take on that.
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Should have just not talked about it like you planned to, Alex.
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That was about as bad as it gets.
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Kinda dumb.
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Eh, eh.
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Um, so there's some other things that Alex is only talking about because he has to.
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Sure, he doesn't want to.
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Sure, he wouldn't talk about this recall election at all.
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He's got to get through hundreds of stories.
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The only reason I've talked about the gubernatorial recall and the political jockeying and jousting
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and positioning that's going on in California is because it's an illustration of how politics
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really operate in this corrupt, decadent phase in this decline of our civilization.
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That's why I spent time on it.
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The only reason I'll talk about these Saddam, uh, sons photos is because they're obviously
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fakes.
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Jesus.
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That's a breathtakingly embarrassing clip.
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You have Alex rationalizing his choice to cover two stories that he feels are otherwise
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beneath him, and he's totally wrong about both of them.
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He's wrong that Saddam's son's deaths were faked, but he's actually way more wrong about
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the recall race.
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He's more wrong there because he's wrong conceptually, not just factually.
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Alex has decided that this thing that he's imagining will happen is a perfect summation
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of the way our political system is corrupt, but that thing he's imagining wasn't real.
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It didn't happen.
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Arnold beat Cruz Bustamante by 17% and there was no real spoiler.
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No other Democrat or Republican in the race would have greatly affected the outcome if
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they weren't in it and Savage didn't even run.
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He was just talking shit.
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The thing that Alex is imagining will happen is a perfect summation of how Alex imagines
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the political system works, but none of this is connected to reality.
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Right, right, right.
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He's very bad at this.
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It does seem, uh, like he's making up stories, uh, and then being like, see, that's how the
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stories work.
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Why does the reality work like that?
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Obviously it does.
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Well, it does.
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You're just not seeing behind the scenes.
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You're looking at the obvious.
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I'm looking at what's underneath, you know?
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The made up stuff.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Um, so, uh, you know, there's some, some more prediction kind of stuff.
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Get back to a little bit of North Korea predicting and I mean like, you know, Alex is 99% right
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about his predictions except for the ones that he just kind of ignores and pretends
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he didn't make.
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And I think you're, I think you're going to see a preemptive strike by North Korea or
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the globalists are going to carry one out and say North Korea did it.
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We'll be a national draft and stated for North Korea mass arrest.
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Uh, there will be U S cities will be vaporized and then out of this, the government will
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become our leaders.
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Total worship of government will begin mass mobilization, youth in black uniforms in youth
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organizations, marching giant flags everywhere, a pyramid, all seeing eye, uh, symbols on
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television information awareness network symbol.
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It's going to be a running man's society out of world war three folks.
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And uh, that's the plan folks.
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That's what the CFR and PNAC and all of them said.
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So that's the plan then the PNAC document said that North Korea was going to launch
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a preemptive strike preemptive being, I assuming, I assume because they think we're going to
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strike them.
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Uh, yeah, because Rumsfeld's been talking shit, right, right, right.
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So Rumsfeld is planning to strike North Korea and North Korea is like, we can't allow that
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to happen.
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So they're going to preemptive strike us with missiles that again, cannot reach our shores
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whatsoever.
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But that's why there's the caveat that maybe it'll be the globalists false flag United
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States in order to make it look like North Korea did it in order to get a draft in place.
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So then we get youth in black uniforms, explain to me diamonds and pyramids on the TV, like
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just population wise, explain to me why we would need a military draft to fight only
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North Korea.
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I can't.
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I guess conceivably Alex is imagining things breaking down on like a half of the world
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versus the other half.
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I mean that like it would have to spiral out into like North Korea to China to et cetera.
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Right.
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That would have to be how it goes.
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Yeah.
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Cause it wouldn't just be North Korea.
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It's not like, it's not like the government's like, listen, if we draft all the men, then
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we can just literally occupy all of the territory, we'll stand arm in arm and we will stand over
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all of North Korea.
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I don't think that's the plan.
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Okay.
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Um, but yeah, youth in black uniforms, pyramids.
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Yep.
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Cool.
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Man, I can't believe that they worked together with the Democrats 20 years later to get Trump
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out of office.
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Yeah.
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With those fake ballots.
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Fake ballots is crazy.
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They've changed a lot too.
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Well, to be fair, this was when King Jong Il was around.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That was his dad.
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So here's where Alex does his one man show.
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This is nonsense.
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Okay.
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I mean, you think about it when they blow a city folks, it's going to be just government
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worship.
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Oh, governor, do anything.
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Just keep me safe.
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My pension bonds gone.
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Oh, thank you for putting $200 a month on my, on my credit, on my little driver's license
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that just so happened to have this credit card function already embedded eight years
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ago on it.
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Oh, it's okay.
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I lost my pension fund and I've got to work in one of the work for grades digging ditches
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and a sure the officer slap us around a little bit, but you know, they're just trying to
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keep us safe after, after what happened after the enemy released smallpox.
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And then we learned that the militias and the ultra right wingers had been working with
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Al Qaeda and Saddam all along and had been working for Kim Jong Il.
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And I'm just so glad the president's moving hard and fast and he nuked him.
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He nuked Syria, he nuked Iran, he nuked North Korea and Putin's joined us in the fight and
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our troops are died on overseas being overrun in some areas.
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I'm glad they, I'm glad they brought in UN forces to help.
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It's been tough.
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This is less subtle than rent.
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I lost family in Cleveland when the bomb went off.
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Shut up.
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Arrest my neighbor.
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He's against the homeland.
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I want to wear a uniform.
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I want to join.
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I want an armband.
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Thanks for my submachine gun, captain.
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What do I do for America?
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You get out there and you report anybody that gives us a problem.
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By the way, I want to take over my neighbor's business.
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You want to help me?
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You want to be the manager of it?
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Sure.
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Sure.
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The economy's bad now.
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I'll do anything for money.
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Good.
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You just joined the homeland.
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You're going to see it.
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You're going to see it unless we get the word out now.
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It's all over, folks.
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It's all over.
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You're going to see all that happen unless we get the word out that the globalists are
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orchestrating these events.
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All right, we'll come back and take calls.
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I promise.
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He's been teasing.
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He's going to go to calls for a while.
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Instead, you got to do that two man, two man, two minute act out.
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Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune,
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my friend.
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Dear God.
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Or to sleep.
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I kept thinking.
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It's a dream.
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I kept thinking.
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Someone should just interrupt and be like, Alex, are you all right?
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This is not going well.
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Do you think you're going to dig your way out of this hole?
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Do you think that second character is going to help?
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Was that the one that was going to save it?
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The captain?
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The captain who wants to take over his neighbor's business?
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Who wants to take over his neighbor's business specifically?
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Yeah, it's great.
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It's great that this new character is coming in has very clear motivations.
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I don't know if I can think of an improv character that somebody's created to play with themselves
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that has gone worse than that.
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He's a bad partner for himself.
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But admirable that there is like a clear want.
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That is true.
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I want to take over my neighbor's business.
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That is true.
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It's difficult.
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Do you want to help other character in my head?
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Right.
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Yes.
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Yes, there is that.
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Del Close would appreciate that part.
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Yeah, that was tough.
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That was bizarre.
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Brutal.
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I know.
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I'm not sure there are many instances that I can recall of Alex doing multiple characters
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for that long.
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That was like three minutes long.
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It was something.
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So Alex does get to calls.
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And a good bit of this show is calls.
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And this first guy, he asks a question about a story that you can very clearly tell Alex
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knows nothing about.
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It didn't go in any great detail, but it was Paul Harvey.
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It almost sounded like the British might be bringing their act over here.
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Was Bush in the process of appointing a new Secretary of the Navy?
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I had heard that, but so...
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Well, the guy was found dead.
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And Paul Harvey said that they're saying now, he didn't go into any detail, he just said
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that they're saying now that it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
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Yeah, and you know, it's funny with the Dr. David Kelly situation, they just calmly report
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that, oh yeah, it's suicide, despite the fact that everything points against suicide.
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There's a story about Colin McMillan, who's a man who Bush had nominated to be Secretary
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of the Navy, who died by suicide while waiting for his confirmation by the Senate.
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People who knew him commented that he had a recurrence of a cancer that he'd been struggling
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with, and he thought that he'd actually beaten, and that was a possible contributing factor
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in his death.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Bigger picture here though, you can see that Alex has absolutely no idea what this caller
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is talking about, but he can't let that be too obvious.
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He's supposed to know everything, so when this caller brings up a Navy Secretary nominee
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dying by suicide who Alex has never heard of, Alex pivots by rambling about David Kelly,
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the UN weapons inspector who died by suicide recently, though Alex has convinced himself
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it's a conspiracy and all this.
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Of course.
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Alex does little hand-waving tricks like this in order to obscure from his audience that
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he has no idea what people are talking about a lot of the time when they bring up news
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stories.
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But by all accounts, he should know all these stories, it seems like it would be a big story.
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It seems like it would be in at least one of his 200-story stacks, or whatever.
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The staggies?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it should be in there.
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I mean, it doesn't mean he's gonna get to it, but the point of having all of those stacks
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would ostensibly be to demonstrate that he has read all of this information, thus capable
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of recalling it to you, should you so call it.
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It's meant to show that.
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Yes!
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Exactly.
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It's meant to show the appearance that he has.
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It gives the impression of that.
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So I got a call who liked the Ann Coulter interview, which is a very, very big theme
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on Alex's show, and is a suggestion of who else Alex should have on.
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Screeching crows!
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Hi, I enjoyed when you had Ann Coulter and Xploser as a neocon, and I had an idea-
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I do have more neocons coming on.
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I had an idea of, um, Al Franken might be a good guest, he's got a book out, and I'd
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be- as a former liberal, it'd be nice to, you know, we think we're done with the Clintons,
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but I hear Hillary's name being tossed around, it's kind of frightening.
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Oh yeah, all the neocons are former liberals, and sure, I formerly ran the Fourth International
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as a communist agent, but I'm a neocon now, go ahead and give me your gun, you can trust
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me.
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Is that Al Franken?
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Yeah.
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Is Al Franken a former liberal?
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In 2003?
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I don't think so.
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Yeah, I don't know if this- the caller was saying that-
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I think he was a former liberal.
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That's kind of what I think too, but that's not the direction I sensed Alex was going
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with.
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No, no.
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I think he might have had an article about Al Franken in that stack, and he didn't get
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to also.
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I mean, yeah.
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Although I think that would be a very interesting dynamic.
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Al Franken and Alex Jones?
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I don't know.
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And I even think I remember the book he had out about that, which was like-
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Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot?
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Yeah, it's either that one or Lying Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them are one of those
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books, yeah.
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And it's like, that was an extreme bullshit polemic, you know, like, yeah.
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I remember he had a book that my dad had that I really enjoyed, it was that Why Not Me,
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and it was the fictitious sort of travelogue of his run for president, and the run never
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happened and it's just a humor book about the nonsensical goings on.
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I don't want to revisit that book, lest it not be as funny as I remember it being when
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I read it as a kid.
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Same with Dave Barry.
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I don't want to revisit Dave Barry ever.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just in case.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So yeah, I think I would like to see that interview, if it ever did happen.
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I would be happy with that.
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That could happen now, it would be real weird.
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Yeah.
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The caller wants, the buzzword here is, I want to partake, I want to partake in the
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info war.
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Hi, Alex.
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This is Dave.
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Alex, I'm a hear of your programmer, of your program, but I like to say, I feel I can't
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move right here.
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I'm just hearing everything.
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I would like to partake in this stuff, and I think all your, all your hearers are the
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same thing.
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They're hearing this all from you, and they all like to partake.
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It seems like, Alex, that we need an agenda here.
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We need a plan.
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Is there, you're giving out all this information, but we need to start doing things.
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Hey, tell you what, stay there.
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I'll come back to you, Dave, and others.
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Stay with us.
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We'll be right back with the third hour.
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Real weird to call people hearers.
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All the hearers of your show.
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That was such a, that made me, that creeps me out instantly.
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Definitely.
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That's the most instantly creepy thing to say.
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Definitely weird.
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That's weird.
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Asking Alex for advice is a dead end.
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Bad idea.
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We know, we know for sure.
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Dead end.
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Yep.
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Tell more people about Info Wars.
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Good advice.
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I would like to partake in the Info War instead of being a hearer.
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Yeah, ooh, man.
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That's quasi-religious speak.
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So Alex does come back, and he does give some advice, and pay attention to some of his advice,
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because it feels like he's just saying, be me, which is maybe not possible.
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Dave in Virginia calls in and says, you know, I feel like I'm a spectator.
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I'm partaking of this.
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You know, I'm hearing it, but I'm not doing anything.
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I want a plan, Dave from Virginia says.
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Well, Dave?
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I got to treat him like an asshole.
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Second issue.
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The Second Amendment.
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The open borders.
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The environmental land grabbing that's going on.
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And go out and get involved in that issue, and meet like-minded people, and then educate
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them on other issues, become a leader, put up a website, get an AXIS TV show, get a commercial
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radio show, start your own organization.
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It's millions of us doing small things can move mountains together.
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Many hands make light work.
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Does that answer your question?
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No.
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Yeah, that's a good answer.
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It's not a good answer.
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No, it is not a good answer.
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From everything I can tell about this Dave character, I don't know if I'd like him on
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AXIS TV or the radio.
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No.
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Hello to my hearers.
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Hear me.
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Hear me, all my hearers.
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What is wrong with you?
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Here's how you partake.
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No!
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I don't want to partake of your hearing.
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Yeah, I think that's a bit of advice that is useless to anyone except for Alex, and
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even if Alex got that advice when he was younger, it would have been useless to him.
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Get a massive influx of cash from your dad.
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Buy your way into a public access sphere.
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Make sure that you meet a weirdo from Minnesota who sells gold, who's desperate for somebody
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to be his pitchman.
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Right, right, right.
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Or find your own gold man.
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I'm sure that there's another, listen, let's be honest, he's not the only guy trying to
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bilk people with fake gold.
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No, but it's important that your gold guy is also philosophically a complete weirdo
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libertarian.
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Yes, yes.
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That's super important.
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That is tougher to find.
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They're still there.
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You need to have philosophical allegiance with your gold scam guy.
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So look, some of these pieces of advice are like, maybe that's good, you know, each one
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teach one kind of stuff, sure.
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But what about having meetings?
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What about getting together and organizing?
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Ooh.
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You know, like-
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20 years in the future, I'll tell you what, that could be used against you.
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Well, apparently Alex isn't so into it in the past either.
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Yeah, that's a good answer.
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But this stuff is coming too fast.
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And I really think that we need to, maybe we can first come together first, and then
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we can make plans.
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I think-
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Okay, let's say 10,000 of us try to meet and come together.
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A police car pulls up, drops off a provocateur, the provocateur walks in, starts a fistfight,
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the police have riot police waiting, they run in and break your jaws and then call you
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terrorist on the news.
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We first have to expose in that town the fact that the government will provocateur our political
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meetings and expose how they've done it in the past in other cities.
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You first got to educate people at the grassroots level and get a sheriff, a county commissioner
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elected that supports your ideals, then move on from the grassroots level.
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So you can't have meetings, you can't have political meetings until you have enough awareness
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that the man is going to jam up your political meetings.
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Right.
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But in order to get to the point where you can have political meetings, you first have
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to elect a sheriff or a county commissioner or something like that without any kind of
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organizing apparently.
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Right.
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Can't have any meetings.
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It's not just like a 10,000 person meeting Alex and him are talking about.
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They're talking about like, I don't know, little meetings too.
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Yeah.
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I mean, 20, 30 people get together.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Like Bible study.
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Well, that'd be 10,000.
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What are you going to achieve at a meeting of 10,000 people?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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But that's kind of how Alex thinks.
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You know, it's got to be a big meeting.
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Otherwise, what's the point?
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I mean, obviously what he's saying is first you need to light the groundwork for plausible
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deniability should anybody that you go to a meeting with cause any terrorist act.
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Then you can say to them that, no, no, no, no, that was an agent provocateur.
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Definitely not somebody carrying out the thing that we went to the meeting to do.
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And it would be good if you have some kind of institutional support.
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You're going to need the violence of the state to go.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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To reinforce.
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Someone who's got your back.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay.
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Listen, if you were going to do, if he's like, here's how you start a terror cell.
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It's useless.
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I mean, it's just useless advice.
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Yeah.
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A good way to get a sheriff elected would be to organize and have some political action
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for the sheriff.
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But if you're not allowed to do that until you get the sheriff elected, it seems like
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this is just another path towards not being able to move as the scholar said.
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Right.
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I mean, isn't he kind of reinforcing the idea that you can change things through electoral
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action, thus making the need for violence, you know, no, Oh, nevermind then.
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No, he's not.
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I mean, you should vote for your local sheriff.
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That comes later.
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Ah, that's true.
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Wait.
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No, that comes first.
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You got to get the sheriff first.
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But you need to wake up enough people to get the sheriff elected.
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But you can't meet.
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Right.
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God damn, that's going to be tough.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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We got a lot of struggles to get this one going.
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Also, don't put up any signs for the sheriff because that could be a false flag thing.
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Absolutely.
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Then the government, the current sheriff is going to come to your house.
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Jam you up.
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Jam you up.
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Yep.
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That's what I recall.
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This guy is an artist.
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Let's talk to Paul and Paul, you're calling in from New York.
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Good to hear from you.
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What's going on?
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I just want to let you know that we're going to be releasing our fourth disc August 9th
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at an event called the belief festival here in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
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And if your listeners in the tri-state area that would like to come out and check it out
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at pokerface.com.
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For those that don't know, you, you guys have a rock band that's got great music that exposes
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the new world order and so you're going to be having another event out there exposing
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the globalist.
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What type of response are you getting from the young people?
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They're loving this stuff.
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Everybody from 7 to 70.
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Hell yeah.
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They love them.
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So there's a band called Pokerface.
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Pokerface.
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I found the band's website.
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Pretty Lady Gaga, right?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Quite a bit.
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Yeah.
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And I actually found a video of them playing at that festival that they're plugging.
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Oh no.
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Oh don't.
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And it's kind of quaint that Alex is hyping this kind of a plug on the show.
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It's not a large gig or anything.
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It seems like maybe elevated Battle of the Bands type of gig.
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But everybody from 7 to 70 did enjoy it.
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I don't know.
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I didn't see many shots of an audience.
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That's trouble.
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It's in Bethlehem, PA.
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So this caller, Paul, I know because he said his name, I know that he is the lead singer
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of the outfit.
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He also plays guitar and keyboards.
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His bio is pretty sweet on the website.
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And quote, Paul is the heart, soul, songwriting, social guru that Pokerface is.
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Paul is the writer of this biography.
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I'm going to read that sentence to you again.
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I didn't misread this.
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Paul is the heart, soul, songwriting, social guru that Pokerface is.
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Heart comma soul?
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Yes.
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Comma.
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Songwriting, social guru.
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No commas or anything.
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Okay.
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Songwriting, social guru that Pokerface is.
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Yep, that's bad grammar.
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That's not great.
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He is and always has been capable of immense insight and focus, the source of which is
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his reverence and respect for all things true and willingness to fight against those that
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are unjust.
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Based upon the writing of his biography, I am not trusting the writing of his songs.
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The other people in the band have also some silly bios, but we're not going to drag them
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into this.
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Oh, that's nice.
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They didn't call in.
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No.
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It's not their fault.
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Are you familiar with them?
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Yeah.
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I thought he was just a random dude trying to get his band's name out there on air just
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like, ha ha, surprise.
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I called in.
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He seemed very casual about the way he made this announcement.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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There was some familiarity between them.
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Alex wants to know, hey man.
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Tell me about your band.
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No.
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How are you feeling about the world?
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What?
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Well, that's exciting.
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What do you think about all the developments?
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In the world today, I think Scarism is right on target with the 1962 report called the
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Iron Mountain report.
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I think Mr. Kissinger had a little hand in that one.
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Yeah, I think Scarism is everything that they needed it to be to bring a police state here
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to America.
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Scarism.
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Well, I'm hearing that.
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I am a hearer of his Scarism.
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So it's pretty impressive how this rock and roll caller is asked about what he thinks
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about the state of the world, and he quickly cites the report from Iron Mountain, which
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is a fake document.
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It was a satirical piece written by a guy named Leonard Lewin, meant to skewer how
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think tanks operate, and imagined a secret group who were tasked with figuring out what
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the downsides of a state of peace would be for the United States.
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Their ultimate conclusion was that peace is not good for the continuance of our system,
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particularly our economy, and thus it's not a desirable state to pursue.
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That's the document.
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It's fake.
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Right.
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The Liberty Lobby, run by racist Nazi Willis Cardo, published the text pretending that
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it was real and a government document, and in that case, you know, you'd be able to publish
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it, but unfortunately, it's owned by somebody, so they got sued by Lewin, and ultimately
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settled the case out of court.
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Conspiracy dum-dums like this rock and roll caller, Alex and even Bill Cooper, cling to
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the idea that the text is real because it matches their worldview really well.
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Right.
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So that kind of means it must be true and not a piece of satirical skewering of think
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tank culture.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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And if you believe it's real, have I got an Irish baby for you to eat.
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Hey.
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What about a neighbor?
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Hey!
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That's delicious.
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So, um, Alex has been getting these calls, and they're all pretty positive Infowars fans,
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you know?
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Sure.
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I think he wants to spice things up a little bit, so he essentially begs people who disagree
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to call in.
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But I do want to leave a line or two open for anybody that disagrees with us, because
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here we are going out on the AM and FM dial from Austin, Texas to Denver, Colorado to
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Albuquerque, New Mexico to Rochester, New York, Pensacola, Florida.
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If you disagree with me or anything I'm saying, go ahead, hit me with your best shot, 1-800-259-9231.
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This does not turn into anything, no, but he disagrees, calls in.
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Oh, dammit.
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Yeah.
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That would have been more fun.
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But, I mean, how seldom is that going to happen?
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Almost never.
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He's listening that disagrees with Alex in 2003, who is motivated enough to call.
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I mean, we had that Canadian guy, and that was, he disagreed in the wrong way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You have to be, yeah, if you disagree with Alex in a more extreme position, you're already
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motivated enough to get on a phone with Alex.
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Sure, you're probably, like, the disagreements that he's likely to get are not going to be
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thoughtful criticisms, they're going to be like, why don't you support the war, that
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kind of stuff.
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That's, that's, obviously you'd want to bait that into coming at you.
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And the people who are, you know, who would ideologically disagree with him are most likely
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listening for entertainment value to laugh at the lunatic if they are listening.
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Right, you wouldn't want to subject yourself to arguing with him.
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Yeah, you're not going to call in and be like, hey man, you're so fucking stupid.
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No, I think the odds are pretty low.
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Yeah.
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So, another caller wants to talk a little bit more about this idea of organizing and
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how Alex seems to be pretty opposed to the idea.
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Right.
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Alex gets basically, like, into a state of, like, okay, well, why don't you, you could
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go find like-minded people.
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And of course, we know where this road leads.
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Is there any way, because your audience is the most informative, they seem to be the
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smartest on the dial, how can we have cellular areas where people who listen to you and agree
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with you can get together and start as a base to do things locally?
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Well, look, you're going to find like-minded people who already see a lot of what's happening,
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it's not the whole picture, in gun organizations, in land rights organizations.
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You guys could call the local radio stations that carry the show and you could show up
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at radio station meetings that I know that Dr. Wolf, the owner of the Sunshine Network
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has.
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You could go to his church.
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You could meet like-minded people there.
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I mean, it's really pretty simple to do.
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You could start websites, you could, there's a lot of different things you can do to meet
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like-minded people.
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I mean, this is a shameless plug, but it's true.
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If you buy one of my tyranny response t-shirts that are navy blue with the yellow firefighter,
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you know, style, tyranny response team, looks like a law enforcement shirt, and you walk
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down the street with that, you're going to meet like-minded people.
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They're going to know what the tyranny response team is.
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You wear my shirt that has a picture of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao on it, and it says mass murderers
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agree gun control works, politicians love disarmed peasants.
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You're going to meet like-minded people wearing that shirt.
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So there are ways to meet like-minded people.
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But are we talking, what are we talking about?
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Are we talking about organizing or making friends?
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What is exactly the goal here?
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Because if you're going to like a gun rights group, I assume that you're just going to
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be engaging in gun rights activism.
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Yeah, you'd be part of the gun rights group.
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Right.
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You could probably meet some people who have other fringy ideas there, I would assume.
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Is he saying siphon people away from the gun group for your own nefarious purposes?
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Start your own cellular organization.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, what you want to do is you want to get 10 to 15 cell people, and you know, you don't
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know each other's names, you don't really have any direct communication, no, nothing
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on phones, nothing on phones.
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Now, what if a narc is wearing a Infowars shirt, or tends to be a like-minded person?
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Not possible.
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Can't do it.
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He seems to have, I don't know.
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It's all just sales.
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The Infowars audience is so smart, and they're so informed.
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There's no way they would allow a, what would you even call it, a provocateur to get into
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their ranks?
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Yeah.
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Because they're so aware of them.
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They don't sell to provocateurs.
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Absolutely not.
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Those don't sell those shirts.
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You have to click the no.
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So this caller does have that shirt, and I don't think it's worked.
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I do have the shirt, and I do have your videos, but it does get to the point where, you know,
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you try to educate your small group of friends and people that you care about, but then it
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just gets to a point where, you know, sometimes they look at you with the glaze.
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A lot of times, family doesn't respect themselves, they don't respect you, and they think you're
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trying to put them down by warning them.
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No question.
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Or friends you've known all your life.
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I mean, Jesus Christ talked about, you know, people in his own town wouldn't listen to
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him.
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That's pretty abusive.
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Yep, yep.
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Hey, your family, the people who care about you as a person, recognize that you're going
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down a weird path, and they aren't going to follow you down there, you know, it's weak.
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You know what I would do?
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They hate themselves, so they don't respect you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or mental health, I think you should isolate yourself from them.
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That way, they'll all be together with their social group that agrees with each other.
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It's just like Christ did.
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And then you'll be alone by yourself, only listening to me.
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But if you have those shirts that I've already sold you, you gotta buy more.
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Well, I mean, sure, you did already buy the shirt, and it didn't help.
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And then there's this guy who runs a radio station, you should go to his church.
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What?
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Yeah, yeah, that makes perfect sense.
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This is a perfect recipe.
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Go harass people at church.
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Terrible, terrible suggestions, really.
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Yeah, just real awful all the way around, just start to finish.
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So Alex gets another caller, and I think that guy who was the hearers guy, he had a weird
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energy, but this guy has also an energy that I found weirder.
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Brian, go ahead.
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Calling up here from Minnesota.
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First time caller, been listening for a couple years now, and I have a few things I want
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to touch on real quick.
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I'm a history major up here at a state college, and I learned something really interesting
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the other day.
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Do you happen to know what the number one cash crop in Liberia is?
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Well, I know that...
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Just say no!
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You can just say no.
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In this order, diamonds, gold, oil, but when you say cash crop, what is it, opium?
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It's rubber trees.
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Yeah, I know they grow a little bit of opium in Africa, but not much, it's mainly in Central
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Asia and Far East and in Latin America, but rubber trees, oh yeah.
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Liberia had not come up at all on this show until this point.
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There is a civil war happening in Liberia, so there is reason to talk about it, but Alex
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has not up to this point, so he came quite out of left field for this caller to be like,
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hey, what's the number one cash crop in Liberia?
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Yeah, I do get Riddler vibes from him.
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I get very much like, I don't know if he's...
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Riddle me this, Alex.
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He's not Infowars evil, but he's some kind of evil.
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He's chaotic.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has claimed about minerals in Liberia that has nothing to do with anything, because
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that's not what the caller was asking about, and on top of that, it's wrong.
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Alex is just making that up.
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By far, the mineral with the highest production and exportation from Liberia is iron ore.
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There's also gold mines and diamond mines, but Liberia doesn't have a developed oil infrastructure
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at all.
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They import almost all of their oil.
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Good on Alex, though, to catch his mistake about the opium.
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That would have been embarrassing.
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It would have made me feel real stupid.
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Yeah.
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I think the oil is probably stupider.
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Yeah, well, you know, but you just assume people have oil.
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True.
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True.
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I think they actually did have a certain amount of promise, or there was some expectation
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than hope that they had some oil exploration that was optimistic, but it didn't pan out.
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It might have been, like, this time frame, but this caller, the weirdo Riddler, he uses
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AOL, and apparently there's some information.
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That's such a Riddler thing to do.
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There's some information that apparently you can't find on AOL.
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And then another thing, I am a subscriber to AOL, which I should have to stop immediately,
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but I always get a kick out of their headlines.
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I think it was three days ago they had a thing, a big article on whether they were going to
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bring the draft back, and then today I turned it on and they had their headline, I believe
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it's there, any AOL members could look at it, of how they have sent an undisclosed number
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of American troops to the seas around Liberia right now, but they won't tell us how many.
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Well, it's 4,800.
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4,800.
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Yeah, maybe AOL won't tell you, but it's official in British papers.
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So a New York Times article said 2,300 troops were sent.
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Right.
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I'm talking about a UK article, though, so that's not the Times, that's for sure.
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I found a Guardian article from an early July that said Bush was planning to send several
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hundred troops between 500 and 1,000, so that's not the source Alex is citing.
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I think that Alex just made up that number and then attributed it to a meaninglessly
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vague source.
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Yeah.
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I think that's probably what we're seeing here.
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Yeah, 4,800 seems like a round enough number that you could pull it, but also it's not
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5,000, so you're not guesstimating, you're like, oh, 4,800, that sounds like you know
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exactly what you're talking about.
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Yeah.
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That's trustworthy.
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Yeah, it's trustworthy enough.
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I don't know where it's coming from.
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The numbers that I found were different.
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So there's a draft, man.
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It's coming.
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And it has not come, but apparently it was already happening in 2003 for a couple of
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professions.
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No shit.
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Let me break this down for you with the draft.
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They already are reinstating it for engineers and medical workers.
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I see.
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That was in the Houston Chronicle two days ago.
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No, you do not see.
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Do not say you see.
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Also, they have two versions of a universal draft for men and women, but that's only 18
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to 26.
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If you're older, you have to serve, and it says this.
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Where?
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Anti-terror reporting squads, tips, cattletail groups, they're even going to give them, and
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I'm not kidding, sir, a gray uniform with a ID badge.
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Well, that's just insane.
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Yes, it is.
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Right out of the textbooks, and when they instate it, you're going to have all the people
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that ran the neighborhood associations, they're going to be in their little citizen corps,
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and they already have it for kids in high school, and quote, you'll have to volunteer,
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see?
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See?
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Yeah, none of this happened.
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I'm telling you right now, if you think, well, that sounds insane, go with your gut, man.
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Go with your gut.
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That sounds insane.
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Yeah.
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So it is.
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I mean, look, you've got to give it up to Alex for being just so right all the time.
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You listen to his show from the past, and it's like, oh my God, is this guy a fucking
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prophet?
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The last time an old person wearing a gray outfit and a badge harassed me-
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Snitch squads of old people.
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Snitched on me.
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I was, I think I was wearing a diaper, and I had pooped, and that was a couple of years
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ago.
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He got snitched on.
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So you got one last clip, and it's this guy just like, this caller is afraid of what Alex
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is talking about with the draft, because he's of the age that he could get drafted.
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He's an undergrad in history.
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And so Alex is just trying to make him afraid, and then it dips into good old fashioned racism.
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Hey, come on.
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One of the stories that like people in the draft age have is either you go and become
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a slave or you don't go and you become a slave.
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Well, actually we're all dead slaves already anyway, but I mean, what do you do?
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Well, you better fight it.
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Now, one thing you're doing is guess who's going to manage the new army and Navy?
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It's-
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Is that United Nations?
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Well, I read the articles two days ago.
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We posted them.
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They said, quote, black uniformed, black mask, Dine Corps and other mercenaries that are
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paid $200,000 a year.
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Oh, great.
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So yeah, and they're also, according to the Washington Times, hiring illegal aliens with
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criminal records to join the military.
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I've seen that.
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Just like Stalin did.
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I've seen that.
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Yeah, you've seen that.
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Of course.
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Be scared.
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Be scared.
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Illegal immigrants are coming in and they're going to be in these new army squads that
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are going to keep the white Christian Patriots down and then there's going to be old people
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snitching on everybody.
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Oh my God.
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What terror.
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Everyone's going to be drafted.
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Man, that is the worst Riddler I have seen in a long time.
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He didn't even have any riddles and he just agreed with shit.
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That's terrible.
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He just agreed with Alex's weird porn narratives.
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Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.
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Yeah, and also with these fears of mercenaries, it's strange that Alex's security is a guy
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from Blackwater now.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I wouldn't have gone with mercenaries.
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Well, he's on the right side of that stuff in 2003.
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In 2003?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's quite against these private armies.
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Right.
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No, well, I mean, they're bad.
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They're bad.
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It's bad.
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That didn't stick.
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No.
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So yeah, this 2003 excursion is a little bit, I don't know, a little soft.
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Uneven?
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Yeah, definitely uneven.
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Yeah.
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It's like we were a little all over the place on that episode.
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Boy, I'll tell you what, and I think the reason is because it is.
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Yeah, we went to Liberia for no real reason.
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Nope.
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And it did not come up earlier in the episode?
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Nope.
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The thing I think is it's Friday and Alex maybe wants to go home.
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Kind of get out of there.
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It's been a long day at the office.
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Yeah, I got Saturday off.
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Sure.
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I mean, Liberia, there's probably some gold there.
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There's, I mean, we're just going to take some nonsense calls.
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I'm going to yell about Michael Savage ruining the California gubernatorial race on behalf
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of the globalists, I guess.
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Davis?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't either, but I am very excited to see where this goes because Michael Savage isn't
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going to run.
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There isn't a draft that's going to be initiated.
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Gray Davis isn't going to win.
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Nope.
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There's going to be chaos in that race.
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North Korea did nuke us.
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Alex is going to have to wrestle with the fact that they didn't.
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Right.
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The pictures of Saddam's sons, it's not going to come out that they're fake.
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100% real.
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100% real pictures.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of bad stuff going on and Alex has still not dealt with a debatification
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in any meaningful way.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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He still hasn't even bothered with it.
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I completely forgot that was it.
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He stopped talking about the bath party being put back in charge.
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Right.
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Right.
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Of course he did.
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He's pretended that wasn't his thing.
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He hasn't talked about the actual reality.
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No.
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And he still can't pull off a metaphor.
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Not to save his life.
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But his character work.
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Character work is top notch.
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Solid.
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Top notch.
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That cop who wants to steal his neighbor's business.
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That's the shit.
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And needs help.
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And needs help.
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I don't know what that other character is going to be doing.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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So Jordan, we'll be back.
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Yes.
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With another episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yes.
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It's knowledge underscore fight.
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And I go to bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm D.C.X.
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Clark.
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The Doctor of Love.
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Not good.
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Nope.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
