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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.

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We need, I need, money.

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas...

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Stop it.

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Andy and...

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and..

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, here on the earth, thanks for holding me.

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Hello Alex, I'm a 15th grader and I'm a huge fan.

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I love your room.

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Knowledgefight.

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I love you.

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Bye.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Right, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan! We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan. Jordan.

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Dan, quick question for you. Yeah, what up?

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What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan, is something I...

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Look, I don't know a lot about a lot of things. Alright.

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I know a lot about some very specific things. Right.

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I know a lot about Alex Jones. You're a specialist, you're not a polymath.

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I'm not a generalist, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's a lot of things that I'm unaware of, and I believe it was on our last episode

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I mentioned that I was starting to play, like, a deck-building game.

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Yes, indeed you were. And the audience reached out and said,

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boy, you should try Magic the Gathering, uh, because there's a way you can play it on a computer.

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Yeah. Which I didn't know. Yeah.

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I was unaware of that. Yeah, me too.

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I didn't know that thing existed, and I started, I gave it a try, and, um, goodbye.

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Yep, you roped me into this shit too, you dickwad.

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It's been, you know, like, it's been a couple days of, like, you know, dabbling around on it.

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Sure. I don't really know what I'm doing exactly yet.

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Sure, sure. I wasn't allowed to play when I was a kid because it was demonic.

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Um, but it's scratching a lot of itches. It's scratching a lot of itches of the, like,

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card collecting, the sort of bizarre magical things.

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Of course, of course. Creatures.

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Byzantine rules? You love Byzantine rules.

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It's basically like logic puzzles. Yes, it is.

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In a game form, because there's so many conditional things about, like,

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you can only play this if and only if these conditions are met.

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Yeah, it does tickle that a little bit. Yeah.

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And then also, like, there are creatures like owlbears.

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Yes, of course. What the fuck is an owlbear?

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It's like, uh, it's like if chess had more imagination and you didn't know what the other player had.

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Yeah. Whenever you started.

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Yeah, and it also is really making me feel a little bit of, like,

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this reclaimed stuff from when I was younger.

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This stuff that I wasn't allowed to play.

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And, you know, it makes me realize that I was also the one who decided to accept that rule when I was younger.

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You know, my parents said I couldn't play it, but I could have been more rebellious and gone into this.

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And I kind of, you know, playing it now, I kind of wish I had.

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And it's really cool that it can be online. It doesn't make a mess in my house with a ton of book cards.

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Yeah, that could be real trouble.

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Considering the number of Magic the Gathering cards there are, if you got too into it, this whole place would be fucked.

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It's over.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I'm trying to keep an even keel on it so I don't lose myself into the world of playing that.

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I'm struggling. We played one match after I tried to make sure, and you murdered me so bad that now I'm, like, in the back of my head.

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I'm like, don't get too into it. It's not that big a deal.

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But there's a part of me that's like, the next time you play Dan, you better beat the shit out of him or your dad's never gonna love you.

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I'm never gonna play you again just so you can't ever get that win back.

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Just so my dad will never appreciate me.

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Yeah. But yeah, it's great, and I appreciate the people who recommended that and basically informed me that it exists because I had no idea.

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Well done.

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Yeah. What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, I could go with that because I, of course, have begun dabbling as well.

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But instead, I am going to go with the underspoken about album that has just been released that's very good, is Church's.

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Church's new album, Fantastic. Very, very good.

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I'll have to check that out. I do like them quite a bit.

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Yeah, a couple of standouts, and then you got Robert Smith, guesting, being a sad boy for, yeah, synths and sad boys, that's what you should have named the album.

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Synths and sad boys summer.

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Exactly, that's what we're doing now.

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Also, while we're on the topic of new albums, our boy i9, the rapper i9, he has a new album called The Little Above Low Key that's out that I enjoy quite a bit.

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Yeah, I enjoy it a lot.

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I haven't had a chance to listen to it enough to fully digest and have strong opinions, but I enjoyed it.

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Okay.

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And people should go check that out. It's available on iTunes, Spotify.

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Go find i9, all over the place.

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Go find him.

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Go find him!

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So Jordan, today we have an episode where we're going to go back into the past again. We're back in 2003 again.

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And part of the reason is I just need to put Alex on timeout, and while I was doing that, I felt like I was falling down a mountain, or a staircase, where I was hitting a stair over and over, just constantly thump thump thump thump.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Trying to prepare this episode was not super fun.

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Look, honest to god, I didn't sign up to do an anti-vax podcast.

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That is the one thing that I really didn't want this podcast to be.

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Yeah, I didn't sign up when we started doing this show to talk about bizarre and stupid conspiracies about vaccination every single go around.

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Otherwise I would have started a podcast about Robert Kennedy Jr. or something.

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Sure, sure.

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You know, and so, I just, a lot of present day stuff is a bummer, and so I was trying to find anything that could be another angle.

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And I came up with a pretty decent angle that I thought would be teachable and interesting, and that is to go over an episode of somebody else talking about Alex.

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Interesting, interesting. Okay, alright.

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The ways that you can highlight unawareness that other people have when they comment on Alex.

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Right, right right right.

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Maybe the transparent ways in which they fall in for the tricks that Alex employs.

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Right, this is an evolution of our how not to cover Alex Jones series.

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Gotcha, yes.

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And so I wanted to do that, I put a bit of time into preparing something, and then I just couldn't get over the hurdle of feeling like I'm being a huge asshole to these people.

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It does really feel like before you even said it I was like, oh no, we're going to be dicks to these people, I don't want to be mean.

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It's impossible to do that without putting a specific person on blast who maybe is certainly a small YouTube channel.

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Who are we to give you a performance review?

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Exactly, I think that there are things that you can learn from it, and I think that I need to find a better way to present that information that doesn't involve kicking some small YouTube channel.

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Because it just feels dirty and gross.

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We gotta do some blind quotes or something, I don't know.

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So that was a time sink for me.

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And then, of course, all my efforts and everything get interrupted by Joe Rogan getting fucking COVID.

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What a fucking idiot.

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So Alex was pretty thrilled that Joe Rogan got COVID, and he cured himself with ivermectin.

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Yeah, that sounds about like how it went.

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I think that people are really missing the forest for the trees on that story when they're reporting that he took ivermectin, because he says a laundry list of things he took.

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He said he threw the kitchen sink at it, took Z-Pak, the monoclonal antibodies, all sorts of prednisone.

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So he was taking tons and tons of stuff, and so let's say that any of that helped.

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That's not proof that the ivermectin helped at all.

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No, no, no. I think that's the fun thing about science, is that you can't draw a conclusion unless you have isolated the variables.

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If they were gonna do a study and they were like, let's just give this group a bunch of shit, and then let's give this group a bunch of different shit, that would not have learned anything from that.

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No, no.

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No, it would just be two different groups of shit. That's it.

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We can maybe make some wild speculation about these different piles of shit we give these people.

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It looks like this pile of shit is better than that pile of shit.

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Sure.

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But maybe when we do it again, it'll just be a different pile of shit.

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He's saying he took all this stuff, and one of the things was ivermectin, and it just made me think, okay, yeah, I had an infection, so I took some antibiotics and also ate gummy bears.

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And so the gummy bears cured me.

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Gummy bears probably cured you.

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Yeah.

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Totally.

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Yeah, right.

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So I don't know.

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See, now this is why, what we missed was a real opportunity to find out if hallucinogenics would cure COVID.

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That's our control experiment for this.

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If Joe Rogan gets COVID, he doesn't get to take any regular medication.

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He doesn't get any regular treatment.

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Just shrooms?

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Just shrooms.

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That's what he's for.

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Uh-huh.

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Isolating the variables.

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If only he had a commitment to the public health and to science.

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Exactly.

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That's what we're here for.

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But I will say that when I was, you know, trying to prepare an episode and I see a headline, Joe Rogan has COVID, I thought, woo hoo hoo hoo.

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A little help?

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There we go.

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Didn't see this coming.

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That's today.

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All right.

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So I'm sure they'll learn a lot from this and everything will be fine.

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And I have no interest in this.

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The most sarcastic and devastating thing you can say to somebody now is dismissing them by just saying, I'm sure they'll learn about this.

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Yeah.

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That's not happening.

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I'm sure next time this will go a lot smoother.

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This will be a lesson.

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And so all this world together and we are left with June 12, 2003.

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I like June 12, 2003.

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And as you may recall, on our last episode in 2003, Alex interviewed a guy who went to heaven.

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Yes.

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That is the day before this.

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Correct.

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So now he's back to being real serious.

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The day before the day we're about to speak of, we had a very serious, calm, and just honest discussion about what was in the waiting room.

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Yes.

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And Alex allowed a guest to discuss how it's your snitch of an imaginary friend that you had from childhood.

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Right.

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And he did not push back on this at all.

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Right.

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Now, so that means that I'm assuming that today I will be taking him very seriously when he complains that the Ba'ath party is still in charge of Iraq, correct?

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I will say that there are no updates on the Ba'ath party.

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Things are going exactly as they have been on that front.

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But before we get down to business on this, let's take a little moment to say thanks and hello to some wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Reverend Dr. Rowdy Karsick.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, RDRC.

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K.

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K.

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Thank you.

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Knowledge fights opening arguments have me talkered out.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Next, Andrew, fake last name.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Andrew.

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Thank you.

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Next, Liz is not a policy wonk, but she plays one on Patreon.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Well, you play one.

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All right, fine.

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Okay, thank you, Liz.

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And we got a technocrat out there to say what up to, so Ross D. Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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Also, I'd like to welcome to the family of Celine on behalf of Matthew brought a tree

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kangaroo into the mix.

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A tree kangaroo.

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I did not even know that was a type of kangaroo.

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Are they in the tree or is it a type of tree?

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Depends on if it's the animal or the magic card.

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That's a tree guru.

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Completely different.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So like I said, we're starting here on the day after Alex talks about going to heaven.

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All right.

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And I mean, I guess he's gotten back to earth now.

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US can't rule out North Korean strike.

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Rumsfeld advisor says this from Reuters.

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They say that, yes, we leaked the battle plan two months ago to invade North Korea this

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October.

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My, this is an underreported story.

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Preparing, massing troops, pulling them back from the border with North Korea massing ships

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and aircraft carriers and aircraft.

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We'll be discussing this when we get back in the next segment.

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Alex is pretty preoccupied with the idea that we're going to go start a fight with North

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Korea.

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Yeah.

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At this point.

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Yeah.

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He's saying that this leaking of the battle plan is an attempt to get them to attack us

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so we can have a war with them.

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I'd like to point out that none of this, none of this ended up happening.

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It didn't wind up happening.

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No, it didn't.

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No, but that was the plan.

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Right.

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And I think that there's a decent chance that because Alex covered it on his show, he averted

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this from happening.

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I mean, I didn't hear anybody else talking about it at the time, so I can safely assume

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that none of them stopped it by talking about it.

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Yeah.

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It had to have been all Alex is doing.

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It had to have been just him, just him by himself.

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So this is a little bit, you know, I guess fear mongery, a little bit putting more into

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the idea that we're going to go to war in North Korea than is actually there scaring

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the audience a little, but at least it's kind of like it's on earth.

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I mean, this is a problem about when you introduce somebody who has been to heaven and then the

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next day you're talking about war with North Korea.

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All I want to know is what does my imaginary friend think about war with North Korea?

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Cause he's the one who's going to be keeping track of how I failed whenever I go to heaven.

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Why are we talking about him?

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I think your imaginary friend is against it.

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Well then I can't go to war now, can I?

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I guess you can.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I also think that there's a big difference between someone being like, we're going to

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war and someone saying like, all options are on the table.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And when it's like Rumsfeld's assistant or whatever saying that it's like, I don't know

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if this is an under reported story.

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I think the fact that anybody has reported on it means it's a reported story.

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Correctly reported story.

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Yeah.

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So we got on last time too, along with heaven, we got a little dose of monkeypox.

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Yes we did.

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And this is a preoccupation of Alex.

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Okay.

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So monkeypox stays.

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Oh my God.

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Heaven goes, but monkeypox stays.

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He talks about monkeypox so much.

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Okay.

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And you knew this was going to happen.

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I said this on Monday with the monkeypox.

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I said, watch, they're going to claim that the smallpox shot will help you with the monkeypox

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and they couldn't get the public to take it.

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99% plus of the medical workers, firemen, police officers refused the smallpox shot,

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but now they say monkeypox might spread everywhere.

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It's now up to 60 something cases and well you just might have to have that smallpox

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shot after all.

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So there was no attempt or initiation or a program launched to try and get the general

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public vaccinated for smallpox in response to monkeypox.

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They should have used Jeff Foxworthy because...

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MonkeyFoxworthy?

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Well, that's not bad.

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Well, you just might need a vaccine shot.

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Yeah.

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The CDC advised that a very limited set of people get the smallpox vaccine during this

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2003 monkeypox outbreak.

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These people included people who investigated the monkeypox cases, people who were in close

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contact with patients who got it, and people who had direct physical contact with an infected

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animal.

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The only way to make this look like an attempt to scare the masses of the public into getting

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a smallpox vaccine is by completely lying about the details of the story and exaggerating

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things ridiculously, which is what Alex is doing.

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Yeah.

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If your warning is like, hey, have you been around anybody with monkeypox recently or

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an infected animal?

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Then get a vaccine.

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If not, you're fine.

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Keep going.

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Keep going about your day.

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That's not scare mongering.

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That's just like a regular...

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That's an alert.

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Hey, hey, there's a flood around if you're nearby where the flood is happening.

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You got to stay aware.

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You got to stay aware.

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Yeah.

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It's doing the least that you can to help people make good choices.

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So Alex has said this narrative, the beginning of it is the 99.999% of folks rejected the

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smallpox vaccine and that's why they needed to do the SARS and they needed to do the monkeypox

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in order to scare people in order to get this vaccine, presumably which would then kill

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them or something.

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I suppose.

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I guess.

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Same thing he's doing with the COVID vaccine now, but just transplanted in the past.

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Yeah.

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History repeats itself.

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Yeah.

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And one of the interesting things that I've learned on this episode is that Alex has made

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up that stat.

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That sounds right.

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And I know I talk about this a lot.

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This is such good news that in Connecticut, one article talked about they ordered 20,000

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healthcare workers and police to show up to get shots in a two day period.

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Four people showed up.

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So again, I haven't done the specific math, but if you've got 20,000 people and four people

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show up to get the shot in one state, Connecticut, I mean, that's 99.999 something.

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If you've got the 10 largest cities with millions, they wanted to vaccinate with the medical

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workers, the firemen, the police, all these millions of people in the 10 largest cities.

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Well, they refused.

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296 did it.

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So somebody can calculate the math on this.

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This is not how stats work.

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And all Alex is saying is that he made up that number that he cites as the rate of vaccine

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refusal.

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Yep.

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100%.

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Again, this was only a plan to vaccinate a total of a million people, half of whom were

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in the military and the other half who were frontline workers like at hospitals and such.

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Over 500,000 soldiers did get vaccinated, but in terms of civilians, only 39,213 got

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the vax.

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Alex is just taking stray numbers that he saw and like who knows what local news outlet

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presumably about low turnout at a specific vaccine station, and then he's extrapolating

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those numbers to be representative of the entire story.

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No one with an actual vested interest in reporting stories accurately would engage with statistics

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this way because it's just meaningless.

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Wait, 500,000 military members got the vaccine?

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Yeah.

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Well then everything that Alex said is pointless and stupid, right?

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They're fine.

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They all got the vaccine.

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They're all fine.

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So why is he saying all this other shit?

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There was 500,000 people who got the vaccine.

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That 99.99% answer doesn't make any sense because half of them got it.

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No, I know.

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But if you just like read a local news article out of Connecticut and you see that there

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was low turnout at one place and then you try and do that math on, you know, you just

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use that fraction, that percentage.

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Oh, if in the next five years everybody dies of monkey pox, I'm going to be real mad at

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the military.

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I think the odds of that are low.

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So yeah, look, the thing you need to understand about the world and information.

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Please tell me there's so much.

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Well, here's the thing, everything that you hear about, you only hear about because the

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globalists want you to hear about.

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Oh, that's scary information to know.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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If they didn't want you to know about the monkey pox outbreak, you'd never know about

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it.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Why am I bringing this up with, with, with monkey pox and all the rest of this?

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If the centers for disease control doesn't want you to know about an outbreak, you won't

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know about it.

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It'll be in a medical journal a year later.

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Okay.

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That's what the gatekeepers, the editors and people do.

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They get calls all the time and get told to shut up, to not talk to the press.

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The AMA will call people, the board of directors of hospitals that are all the federal, if

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they didn't want you to know about this, this, uh, this monkey pox, you wouldn't know about

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it.

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They're doing this to fear monger and saying maybe everybody needs to take the smallpox

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shot so there'll be safe.

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So they don't want you to know about something you won't.

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I just think that this is a dumb way to engage with, with information.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Everything that they tell you is curated and it must be deceit.

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I suppose that's easier to, I suppose that's an easier thing to come to or an easier conclusion

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in like 2003, you know, when it's not the monoculture, it's not like you've only got

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the four channels or whatever, but now if somebody said that you, the only information

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you get is curated, you'd be like, dude, I got information coming from everywhere, always

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all the time.

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And it doesn't matter.

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Joe Rogan has COVID.

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It doesn't matter.

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It's coming from everywhere.

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It doesn't matter if it's true or if it's false.

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If they want me to know, if they don't want me to know, it's all of it.

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But I think that some of that was true in 2003 too.

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For sure.

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I mean the internet was obviously not as bad as it is now, but there were, there were elements

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of that.

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I think that like, if you're just going to say that, you know, even with just like the

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news channels, the mainstream legacy news channels, if you want to say that everything

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that they are covering ever is highly curated because it's what they want you to be aware

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of or whatever, that's just a lazy way of abdicating your responsibility to like engage

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with news and figure out like, uh, what, uh, cause yeah, sure.

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There are some things that are probably like sponsor content or, or whatever, but you know,

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you can have a responsibility to, to dig through and figure out what's what.

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Yeah.

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And it's also a good way of saying, um, you can only trust me.

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Never trust anyone else ever about anything, especially if they tell you not to trust me

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because again, I'm the only person you can trust.

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They're lying to you.

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So if they point out all of these things that I lied or that I didn't actually know anybody

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who went to heaven, all of that bullshit, you know, you can't trust them.

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That's what they want you to know.

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And what I want you to know is not that it's different things that Craig went to heaven.

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That's why they're going to shut me down and I need your money.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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My imaginary friend is broke.

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I think I got that one.

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Yeah.

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My imaginary friends imaginary car as a blue fuse.

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I would love to pay him back, but I owe him 20 bucks.

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So man, we're all screwed here.

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This guy, it's just a mountain of debt.

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He's got an imaginary loan shark he's got to deal with.

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It's brutal.

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That guy's not who you want to see in heaven.

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The imaginary loan shark.

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You do not want to fuck with that man.

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If a loan shark made it into heaven, he's too good.

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Well, like loan sharks are somebody's friend.

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So imaginary loan sharks must be somebody's imaginary friend.

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It's true.

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That's true.

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It's a real sad day.

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That's a real sad day to day life of the imaginary loan shark friend.

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But what if like you're a child in the mafia or something like that?

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You might have an imaginary loan shark friend.

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Yeah, because when you're a kid, you look up to your father.

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It doesn't matter if your father is a brutal loan shark running protection rackets.

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That's not what's important.

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What's important is that he's your dad.

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So I think we have some bad predictions so far.

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Micky pox seems like a much bigger deal to Alex than the rest of the world.

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True.

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Somehow he's thinking that's going to be used to give everyone small pox vaccines, which

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it's not.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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The nuclear war with North Korea thing is...

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Any moment now.

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Yeah, so apparently the draft is coming back.

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Also Mr. Rumsfeld says that he wants to go ahead and invade Iran and wants to have a

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preemptive strike on North Korea and yes, they've got a national draft lined up for

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you and your family and you'll be all for it after the global has launched a couple

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more terrorist attacks to get you all prepared for that so they can pose as your savior during

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that process.

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That was really condescending for something that is totally not accurate.

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Love that smug tone.

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Yeah.

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Oh boy.

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That's not everybody who thinks Alex is right about everything.

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So Alex takes some calls.

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On this episode, nobody has been to heaven, I will say that.

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But Alex does have Aaron Zelman, the guy who runs Jews for the Preservation of Firearms

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Ownership.

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Sure, sure.

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The more extreme version of the NRA that Alex supports at this point.

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He's quite anti-NRA in 2003, but he's in favor of this organization and then Gun Owners of

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America.

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But before Aaron Zelman shows up, Alex takes a call and man, this call is so funny in 2021.

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Larry, you're on the air.

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Go ahead.

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Alex, I heard you talking about, oh, with Craig Roberts yesterday and I think that was

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a very good topic, even though some might consider that ethereal.

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It's important to know that you do have to do something, even if the odds look like they're

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against you.

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Was that what I heard?

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You know, we may not win this, especially if we don't wake up enough people up, but

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you got to know that even though the odds are against you, you still got to defend your

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family.

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You still have to try because you are going to answer for what you do.

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I also wanted to thank you for staying pretty much on topic.

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There's a lot of hosts that are letting topics of aliens and, you know, a million Chinese

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robotoids come across the air and it's important to maintain credibility and not let the Patriots

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look like idiots through these kinds of topics that are getting out.

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Well, that's done to discredit wider topics.

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They'll mix things in that can't be proven.

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That's it.

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I want to thank you.

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Oh, really?

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They'll mix in things that can't be proven.

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Like your imaginary friend is waiting for you to snitch when you get to heaven.

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Man, that clip really fucks me up.

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I don't know who's, I don't know.

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Maybe I'm dumb.

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Maybe I'm dumb listening to that clip because they won.

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Well, I think, I think it's a powerful delusion that's being mutually reinforced.

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And that clip is funny the day after he talks to someone who went to heaven.

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And then it's also funny considering where he's become.

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Like the type of shit that Alex covers now, like he in the past would look at his show.

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Like if you modulated the voice of Alex's show in the present day, so he couldn't tell

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it was him.

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Yeah.

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You might not even be able to tell his voice.

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His voice is a bit different, but whatever you put it through some sort of a pitch adjuster.

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You play it for him.

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He'd be like, this person's trying to make the Patriots look terrible.

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Yep.

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He would hate himself.

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100% would be like, this guy is fucking killing the movement.

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Yeah.

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Destroying it.

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Alex in the present would be the perfect foil for Alex in the past.

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Yeah.

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But I mean, I feel like Alex in the present would have a pretty unbeatable argument, which

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is just like, look at how stupid that guy is.

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What he was saying is tone it down so you can be credible in the real world.

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What one was going as far and as hard and as loud as humanly possible.

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That does seem to be true.

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Maybe I feel like maybe that guy's an idiot.

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I mean, I know he's an idiot.

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There we go.

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I know he's still an idiot, but yeah, I was looking in the mirror when I said that.

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I think I might be the dumb one here.

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It's, it's, it's strange.

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It's really, it's really strange because it seems like he's making a really reasonable

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point, but it's something that that's a point that Alex makes about like, he was trying

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to differentiate himself from like David Ike, like that's what you would say about him back

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in the day.

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Yeah.

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And now they're best friends.

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Yeah.

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Sort of.

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I guess it's just a timing thing.

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You go crazy at the right time.

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Yeah.

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Don't be David Ike and go crazy too soon.

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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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Exactly.

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That's Hunter S. Thompson.

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That's what you got to do.

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Yup.

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And when Trump is running for president, the going is getting weird.

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When he wins, it's all over.

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So Aaron Zelman comes in and I don't know, in as much as somebody just like wants to

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people to be allowed to own guns.

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Fine.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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But he troubles me in other ways.

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Okay.

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Well, my advice to Americans, frankly, is that, uh, you're not going to be able to stop

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this.

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You're going to have to fight it.

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And my advice to Americans is to master long range rifles.

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I hope I don't have to peel that onion anymore for people, but the last thing they're going

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to have is mastering the use of a long range rifle.

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I mean, you can take your AK 47 throw in the fireplace, it's going to be useless.

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You got to learn how to master long range rifles because you're going to have to deal

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with it on that level if this cancer spreads and becomes so severe that we have no choice.

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Holy shit.

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On that level?

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So yeah, Aaron Zelman's coming in and he's like, Hey guys, learn to fucking use a sniper

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rifle.

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Hey, if this goes south and it's going to, you're going to have to be on a rooftop shooting

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everybody.

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Frankly, why are you even saying sniper rifle?

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You don't need a scope.

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Holy shit.

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You need extra ammo.

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Yeah.

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That's upsetting.

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Yeah.

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That's not great.

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I do think that there's a little bit of a, a little bit of a showing your cards a tiny

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bit when you say, I hope I don't have to peel that onion anymore.

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If I say what I think, they'll think I'm going to commit a crime.

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All I really want is to imply heavily that everyone else should commit a crime.

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I'm not going to do it.

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It's about implying exactly.

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Come on.

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Um, so, but like, you know, you got to get capable with a sniper rifle and, and part

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of the reason is because everybody, the cops, everybody's out of control.

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What is it?

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The state is fucking society look like if everybody's good with a sniper.

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How do you go, how do you go into a fucking store and somebody's got a bead on you?

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Yeah.

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I know it'd be really dangerous to use Instacart.

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Your shit's not going to show up.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I guess then like elaborate body armor suits might become more popular.

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It would have to be a, it would turn into a defensive arms racing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We'd get mechs.

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Turn anime instantaneously.

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I love it.

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Or conversely underground tunnels.

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Ooh, I do like a good underground tunnel.

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We might become the Morlocks if Alex and his buddies...

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Wait, we're going to become the Morlocks because they get the long rifles?

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I mean, you got to do something.

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That's fair.

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Yeah.

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Um, that's a good rewriting of the time machine.

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So look, there is a reason for getting into sniping and it's because, like I said, the

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state and the government are out of control as evidenced by this third hand story that

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Aaron Zelman wants to tell.

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This morning I was talking to somebody who lives in the New York area and they said that

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someone got a, uh, was leaning on a fire hydrant the other day and they got a ticket for loitering.

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Uh, I mean, I wasn't there, I didn't see it, but I just have to assume the person is telling

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me exactly what happened.

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But this is, this is almost the situation.

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Let's just see how far we can push the envelope.

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Is this the best example you have?

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I mean, listen, I think it's bullshit.

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Criminalizing just hanging around is a good way to destroy the poor.

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That's what you do.

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I don't disagree.

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I do think...

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Is this evidence everybody needs a long rifle?

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Probably not.

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Probably not.

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I also don't know if this story happened as it's being told.

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The loitering charge may have been related to something else that happened.

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It might have been an incident.

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Entirely possible.

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Entirely possible.

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It could be completely made up by this person that Aaron Zelman was talking to.

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There's a hundred, like why, why are you even bringing this up?

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Why does this rank?

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There we go.

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That's the problem.

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This is so dumb.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Now see, again, I think it's wrong and I'm sure regardless of whether or not this story

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is exactly true, let's go with, I mean, if you were not a racist, you might just go with

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the stop and frisk policy instead of even bothering with a third hand story from some

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asshole who doesn't know any details.

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Who may have been loitering and you have to admit, I just have to take their word for

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it.

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I don't know what happened.

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I have to take their word for it.

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We've got data backing up stop and frisk being wrong.

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How impactful does Aaron Zelman expect something like that to be?

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Right.

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Like, is it really like, I am not convinced that the government is out of control based

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on this story.

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Now imagine this, right?

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So you are hanging out on a hydrant and a cop comes up to you and he's like, Hey, you

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can't loiter here.

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And you're like, no, I can absolutely loiter here.

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And he gives you a ticket, right?

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Your long rifle is not going to do much in that situation.

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You don't have the speed.

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It's too close.

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It's what's the point of a long rifle if this is your example of how we have to fight back

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against tyranny.

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It's true.

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One time.

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You want a snub nose for this type of problem.

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One time I was skateboarding around and I jumped up onto a hydrant and I spun around

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like a, like just a wee, like a top on it and a cop punched me and I fell over.

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The police are out of control.

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They are out of control.

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This was in a video game.

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I think that's a good call.

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I'm going to tell Aaron's element about it and he's going to tell Alex.

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Oh boy.

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Um, so yeah, Alex has this thought about the drug war and it's interesting because the

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more long rifles, um, the more I learned about Alex's positions, about things that I in theory

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thought I agreed with him about the more convinced I am that I'm not, I don't really actually

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agree with him that much and the drug war and like legalization of drugs I think is

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one of them.

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Laudum Opium was sold by the bottle at drugstores and you had less drug abuse then than you

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do today.

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They ship it in, make it illegal to jack the prices up and then gives it a fashionable

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look for low level drug dealers and your daughter's become crack whores.

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We must decriminalize now.

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That's what I have to say about the drug war.

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I don't feel like I agree with him and I don't feel like this is the way I understood his

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position.

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Yeah.

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I would say the reason that I, the, the, the place I've come to with never agreeing with

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Alex about anything about anything ever is because no matter what it is, his position

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is what I know now is that all of his positions have conditions that can change on his whim

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and only his way.

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That's true.

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So whatever it is he thinks his position is or is presenting his position as given the

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opportunity to do something about it, he would change the conditions to whatever it is he

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wanted them to be and it'd be bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think you're right on that count.

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Uh, I think that, you know, decriminalization is something that's really important because,

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you know, many drug issues should be dealt with as medical issues.

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Right.

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This is something that's not necessarily a punitive approach is I don't know if it has

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the best chance for, for helping people.

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Right.

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I suppose what it has the best chance of doing is, um, creating more slaves for California

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to use to fight their fires.

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And I don't, I don't, I don't know if a primary motivation for wanting a drug legalization

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to happen is because the globalists make money on drugs.

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That to me is empty.

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That one's a little bit meaningless.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what happens when you reduce everything down to capital, isn't it?

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The wrong people, I need to choose as a consumer to not let all of these millions of people

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get fucked over forever.

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But that's only because the wrong people make money off of it.

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If I was making money off of the drug war, yeah, of course we're having the drug war.

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Come on.

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What are you talking about?

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So there's a caller that calls in and he wants to know why Aaron Zelman is telling people

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that they need to get sniper rifles.

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I do too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This made me really...

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So uncomfortable.

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Yeah.

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Aaron, I was wondering, why would you recommend not being able to shoot long range?

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Do you, do you know about the weapons that they, that we're going to be facing?

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Well, that's part of it.

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You know, you want to be as far away from the enemy as you can.

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Can you tell me why?

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Oh, sir.

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I think you know why from history.

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Thanks for the call.

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Tom.

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Appreciate it.

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Whoa.

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Sir, sir, we're not going to say go kill people, sir.

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Yeah.

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That's what we mean.

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You, you'd know that the answer is you can't get close to high profile people that we would

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want you to target.

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Exactly.

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The quote unquote globalists.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's fucked up.

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I mean, what he might as well have said is you think Kennedy's getting his head blown

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off with a short rifle, you know?

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Seems unlikely.

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Yeah.

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Alex later then goes on to be like, you know, obviously he's talking, what Zelman's talking

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about is, you know, like Chinese troops landing in a land invasion.

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Sure.

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A sniper rifle would not be helpful against a land invasion.

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I mean, all right, China is storming our beaches.

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What are we going to do?

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All right.

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We're going to line the border with 10 million people with sniper rifles.

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Fire whenever you feel like it.

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Good strategy, Zelman.

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Let's go back to the revolutionary war.

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So I feel like in the same way I've become a little bit disillusioned with Alex's, you

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know, is what would seem to be an agreement in terms of drug policy.

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I feel like I've also become disabused of the notion that he and I actually agreed about

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Bush either.

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I think that he was using George Bush as a bit of a political tool.

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Way.

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Well, by not being a hypocrite and exposing the corruption of Bush, liberals tune in,

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they get converted to being constitutionalist and they go out and buy guns and realize the

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new world order scam.

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Have you found that we're able to deprogram liberals to understand if we're just honest

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and aren't hypocritical and will expose the corruption of the Republicans as well?

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Well, I think it goes hand in hand.

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I don't know if you're going to reprogram anybody, but I think they get to take a different

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look at you and become more tolerant.

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Absolutely.

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Aaron Zelman, Godspeed and take care of my friend.

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Okay.

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You too, Alex.

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We'll see you buddy.

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We'll see you buddy.

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Yeah.

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So it's only the liberals that need deprogramming.

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Sure.

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And you're able to achieve this by appearing sane, by criticizing Bush.

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So what you're doing is essentially trying to gain credibility for your extreme right

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wing positions by throwing the middle right under the bus.

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Right.

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That's what you're doing.

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Right.

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And, and seem reasonable.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's what he's doing now with the big box churches kind of thing.

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You know, he's, he's throwing the mainstream Christianity, litterbug churches, litterbug

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churches, throwing them under the look that, that kind of bullshit.

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That's not Christianity.

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Uh huh.

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Yeah.

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You guys believe in all this nonsense.

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We're waking up all these liberal Christians to killing everybody we don't like.

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That's great.

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Yeah.

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It's, it just seems like an intentional strategy.

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Yeah, it is absolutely an intentional strategy.

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And I think, I think part of that might be because I, maybe he doesn't have much hope

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of actually converting all that many Bush fans or like neoconservative leaning people.

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Maybe, maybe, maybe he's aware of that.

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They're like, that, that's not a, that's not a fruitful pond for him to fish in.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's, I guess, I guess, and that was born out because they came to him, you

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know, he didn't, he never convinced neocons to love him.

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All of a sudden they just started going fucking crazy and then he was there for him.

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Yeah.

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He was ready and waiting for those dumb, dumb, dumb people to show up at his door.

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The tea party and then Trump eroded everything to the point where Alex is normal.

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He's like a fucking Bilbo Hobbit situation with Bjorn, a bunch of dwarfs showing up one

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at a goddamn time.

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Can't stop him, Dan.

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Sorry.

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That's a weird Hobbit reference for no reason.

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Sure.

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Yeah, it got there.

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Yeah.

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Alex takes another call from a guy and this, this fellow would like Alex to speak at the

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University of Austin at the UT Texas, Austin.

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That'd be an interesting day.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to tell you that the booking doesn't seem likely for me.

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It doesn't seem like he's going to get that booking, but there are some conditions upon

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which he would accept them.

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I've watched the symposiums at UT on cable, the gnome chompsies, the professors, the rest

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of them, and it's all a phony left wing paradigm.

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I do need to come talk to UT and if they invite me to talk to a big enough crowd, I'll come

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do it.

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I've actually spoken at UT twice before.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Like into a bullhorn.

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I was going to say, that's a very victim.

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I've spoken at UT twice before.

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So have I.

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I visited my dad's office and I said hi to somebody.

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Yeah.

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I've walked around and said, Hey, I've spoken at UT.

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Yeah.

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Um, I would say go fuck yourself with this.

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If UT gets me a big enough crowd, I'll show up.

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You went to Kansas city to do like an opening of a tire store.

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Later on, you'd go to a fucking, you'd fly across the country to open a grocery store.

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Yeah.

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Fuck you.

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Not even open a grocery store.

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He was just going there because they didn't like masks.

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Punch it, dawg.

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Yeah.

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Oh boy.

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If UT got him two people.

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If UT got him a fucking sandwich.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, there's more calls.

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Most of the rest of the show is calls.

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And so there's actually, you know, not a whole lot of meat left on these bones.

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Um, but I don't know if I like that less or more than now, cause it seems like he doesn't

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take too many calls now.

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Yeah.

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No, it's, it's, it's not as, uh, he, he talks about taking calls now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A bit.

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A bit.

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And then it often doesn't happen.

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He has like just the same people calling in the present.

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Like this guy Carlos calls in all the time, pretty much every time the phone lines are

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open and that dude will get in there.

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That guy's there.

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Yeah.

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And it makes me wonder if like there are just a few people who call.

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Yeah.

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Um, I don't know.

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I, I really have no idea.

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And I think that in terms of my listening, enjoyment, I prefer it like this in 2003 because

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it feels like a radio show.

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That's that's what I was thinking.

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I was thinking that about this from like a purely enjoyable standpoint, I prefer being

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in the past and these callers are, are, some of them suck and they're boring, but it's

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still like at least there is like this input of the listeners and Alex has to say yes and

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with them.

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It's got a little bit of a ramshackle charm to it.

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It does.

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It does.

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I, and I don't know if I would like that now though, because I don't know if I would be

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able to handle what the callers would say now.

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Yeah.

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Like back then, the closest we got was that guy being like, Hey, what do you, what do

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you think I should use this long rifle for?

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That was right now.

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If somebody called in, I feel like they'd be like, no, no, no, I didn't ask you.

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What should I use it for?

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I said, who, who do you want me to kill with this rifle?

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You know, like I've, I don't want to live there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think, I think you're right.

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I think that, uh, if I were Alex, I would be aware that it might not be a good idea

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to trust a lot of the audience with an open phone.

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Yeah.

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That could be, that could be rough.

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Yeah.

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Uh, but then again, if I were Alex, I probably wouldn't trust most of the people he has on

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as guests to speak into a hot mic.

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That is a really good point.

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That's a really good point.

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Um, so this caller, Oh boy.

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I mean, obviously this is a sovereign citizen, which there were a lot more of them in Alex's

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audience at this point, but I would say, you know, I mean, I, I'm not like Alex.

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I don't just make up statistics, but I would say 99.9999% of his callers are sovereign

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citizens.

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Okay.

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That sounds about right.

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So about four out of 20,000.

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Give or take, um, this person believes this lady, she believes, yes, that according to

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God and the constitution, she does not need a driver's license because her husband owns

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the car and he gave her permission to use it.

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Which makes sense.

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Uh, Sheila in Missouri, Sheila, you're on the air.

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Go ahead.

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Alex, how are you today?

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I'm pretty good.

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Sheila.

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How are you?

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Well being followed, uh, Monday I took a trip to town and I was pulled over by a state trooper.

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He was doing his, um, I don't know what, he never gave me an explanation.

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He was just pulling people over.

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He was standing in the middle of the highway and asking to see their driver's license.

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So he had a gentleman on one on the other side of me looking at his license and he told

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me to give him my license and I said, no sir, I do not have one.

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First mistake.

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So he told me to pull over to the side of the road and I did.

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He came back to me and he noticed that my son and I both had our seat belts on and he

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said, you want to tell me why you don't have a license?

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And I said, yes sir.

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I believe in the constitution of the United States.

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And I also believe in the Bible.

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My husband owns this truck.

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He gives me permission to drive it.

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So therefore, unless he tells me to get a driver's license and until you show me where

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the constitution of the United States says that I have to have a driver's license or

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a license at all to operate something that my husband owns and gives me permission to

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use, then I'll go get one.

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Okay.

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He laughed at me.

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You don't say.

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And the funny thing about this story is that it ends up with the cop letting her go with

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a warning.

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Get the fuck out of here!

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God damn it.

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And she's actually, I think she's totally right, but in the wrong way.

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Like she says that, um, like she probably wouldn't have been treated this way if she

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didn't have her kid with her in the car.

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She's saying that she would have gotten roughed up and like, uh, you know, beaten up for being

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a patriot.

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Sure.

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The cops are mad about this kind of thing.

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But I think she probably was treated differently because she had a young child in the car and

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the guy probably was just like, this is, this is going to really fuck up their day.

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I'm just going to let this go.

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No, you know, like get your kid home.

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Yeah.

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Or I would, I would suspect that it's like, this is going to be too much insanity to try

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and beat through.

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What's the, what's, what's going on here?

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Whatever.

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No.

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She calls in to Alex's show to tell this nonsensical story about how, if your husband

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owns the truck and he gives you permission, then the constitution says you can drive it

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without a license.

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And, uh, the, the cop was nice and let her go and then they demonize him, but I wanted

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to beat her up.

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You know, crazy.

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Think about, I imagine being a cop, like whenever you ask people, tell me why you do this.

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You don't want to hear him say like, no, I'm not going to tell you.

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Cause then you're like, that's going to be a lot of work.

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But if you hear him say, yes, I would love to tell you why you're like, this is some

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sovereign citizenship, it's about to happen.

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The only people who, and you're like, uh, do you want to tell me why you don't have

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a license?

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They're like, yes I do.

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And the constitution, you're like, nah, no, go, go, just go, go, go get into an accident.

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They pull down on like the, uh, the roof of their car.

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Yes.

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There's a screen.

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Yeah.

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They have a projector set up.

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Yeah.

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And you're like, oh God, no.

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I explained to you why I don't have a license.

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I have a presentation ready to go.

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Uh, excuse me, ma'am.

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You need to understand this question was more rhetorical, uh, and I have no interest in

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the answer.

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The problem is you don't have a license.

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Just pushes it in a tape.

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This presentation is a soundtrack, put a lot of work into this officer and you will listen

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to it.

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Excuse me, officer.

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Would you be happy to know that I have been waiting just for this exact situation with

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a lot of props?

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I should warn you, um, about half an hour in.

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I am going to open the door, uh, just to do a little soft shoe.

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Yeah.

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There's a tap number in the middle of an intermission.

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We have to have an intermission.

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Uh, so please don't shoot.

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You can't have a three hour show without an intermission.

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That's just rude.

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Yeah.

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I find it really fascinating how many times there are people who call in with horror stories

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to Alex's show about things that are just like, they're just being annoying.

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Yeah.

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And then the resolution of the story is nothing happened.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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What?

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I was bothering somebody and then I didn't receive any consequences for it.

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Alex, can you believe this world?

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I was being super annoying to a cop who just decided to let me go with a warning.

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Man.

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I must call Alex about this.

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Why, why do I, cause I feel like so much of Alex's callers with these types of stories,

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like the unspoken parentheses is, and I'm white, you know, like this type of treatment

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happens to non-whites.

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I can't believe it happened to me.

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I mean, I think a lot of the time there probably is a little bit of that energy, but in this

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case I think it's more just, yeah, sovereign citizens are a different, different world.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets another caller and this guy wants to know whether or not there was chicanery

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going on with the 2000 election.

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Yes, there was.

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It was highly documented.

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Was there?

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No, it was, there was a, Oh man.

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So documented.

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Do you believe that there was some fraudulent, um, some fraudulent activity with the, uh,

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with the, with Gordon Bush election?

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Mike, let me explain this to you.

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I only deal in things I can prove fuck off and speculate very rarely out of I do, I'll

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tell you I'm speculating.

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I know that the military industrial complex without a shadow of a doubt carried out September

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11.

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I know they carry out Oklahoma city.

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I know they killed Kennedy.

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I know that voter news services took over two weeks after they blew his head off in

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Dallas, Texas.

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I know that it's had different names.

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I know that voter news services that night announced that Al Gore was the president.

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Okay.

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And then they announced that Bush was the president and then they announced that Al

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Gore was the president and it went back and forth and I studied it and I studied it.

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They caught Democrats in Florida, one legislator with voting machines in his car, cramming

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the ballots.

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He has an example of Republicans cheating too, just to be like above board and make

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sure that I don't play.

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I cut it off there because like the rest of the clip rambles on a bit, but he does give

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an example of like cases of Republicans.

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He's above the left, right paradigm.

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Yes, of course he is.

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Um, so I didn't know that, uh, a voter news service is, uh, behind everything.

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They've had different names.

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Did he imply that the, uh, the, the military industrial complex changed their name to voter

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news service?

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I don't know.

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That was a, that was a real grocery list of being wrong about stuff.

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How, how is it possible that I've listened to thousands of hours of Alex's show?

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And this is the first time you've heard it?

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I've never heard him weaving yarns about voter news service.

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They changed their name, Dan.

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They've had so many names.

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You don't even know what their name is now.

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I don't even know if it was then.

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They don't exist.

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Okay, well there's that.

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And they didn't exist at the time of Alex's recording this episode.

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That's cause they had a different day.

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This is just an exit polling group that was formed.

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So various news entities didn't have to do duplicate work exit polling, uh, doing the

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same questions.

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Sure.

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So they just all have one uniform source.

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The organization did such a bad job with the 2000 election, however, that they were disbanded

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in January, 2003, well before the episode Alex is doing right now that we're going over.

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You were disbanded!

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So do you think that the voter news service could have taken over after Kennedy was killed

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seeing as they were formed in 1990?

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Also I think that if Alex knows that people were stuffing ballots into voting machines

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that they had stored in their cars, then the answer to the question of whether or not he

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knows of any fraud going on in that election is yes.

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Yeah.

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It's the answer is not a long winded non answer about I only know things that I know.

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No.

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You know, sometimes when people ask you a yes or no question, they are looking for an

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answer that is yes or no.

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And when the answer is yes, because there were people stuffing ballots into voting machines

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that they had in their cars?

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You can just say yes.

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Yeah.

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They were stuffing ballots into voting machines in their car.

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Yeah.

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They're just sitting in the car like, oh my God, I have so many ballots.

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What am I going to do with all these ballots?

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So I'm supposed to believe that fraud occurred.

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Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, you get in my car right now.

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I am freaking out.

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I have so many ballots.

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I can't stuff all these ballots in the machines.

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These people are so bad at stealing an election.

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All of a sudden they're in their cars and they're fucked.

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Wait, wait.

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What if this is fast 10?

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This is what we do.

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They're stealing an election.

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Yes.

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The ultimate thievery.

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This is why they went to Brazil to steal all that fucking money just to train to steal

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an election.

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Yep.

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And they're going back to space, baby.

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Roman and Tej realize they belong out there.

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They take their long rifles, assassinate Elon Musk, and then steal his fucking rocket, go

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into space in order to steal the next election.

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All right.

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All right.

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We could only steal this election if we have ballot machines in cars called Dominic Toretto.

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Surprise.

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Surprise outcome of the 2024 election, family is the president.

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What's this?

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It is family.

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On the Toretto Toretto ticket, John Cena is the vice.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Absolutely.

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Definitely related to Dominic Toretto John Cena.

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Yes.

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100%.

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Oh boy.

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Oh, this is good.

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Yeah.

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I think that voter news service is not the nefarious group that Alex is presenting here.

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I don't know what he's trying to insinuate.

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Is he insinuating that they killed Kennedy or that they just filled the power vacuum

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after Kennedy was killed?

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No idea.

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No idea.

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I'd love to learn more.

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I would like to know more about this.

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I wonder if this will come up in the other 2003 episodes.

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I wonder if it'll come up again over the next 20 years.

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Oh boy.

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Tell you what.

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Confusing.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, the people, revolutionaries over history have, you know, one of the catch

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phrases that they've used is-

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Where's the beef?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Each one, teach one.

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Oh yes, of course.

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It's something that gets used, you know, in order to grow a movement.

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Right.

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You need, I am one.

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If they tell two friends, then you tell somebody, yes.

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If they tell two friends, yes.

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So Alex is talking to somebody who showed his, one of Alex's documentaries at their

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church function, I believe.

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Great.

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And Alex finds the longest winded way possible to say each one, teach one.

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And what you need to do now is tell those 28 people to bring one more person and you'll

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have 56 people next time and then tell them to bring 56 more and you'll have 112 and tell

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them to bring 112 next time and you'll have 224 and then tell them to bring 224 and you'll

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have, you know, the numbers just continue from there.

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Yeah, it's unbelievable.

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It's 448.

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Yeah, I don't know if he realized like this was getting a little long or if he couldn't

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do that.

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Couldn't do that math.

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Yeah.

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He seemed to be doing okay up till that point.

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He was doing pretty good.

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Yeah.

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It didn't even seem like it was taking him that long to come to the multiply by two answer.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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I mean, I just think that there's such an easier way to express that.

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Oh, I mean, a concept that's been around since the beginning of humans trying to, you know,

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congregate.

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Yeah.

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I would assume that we would have figured out a shorter way to say it by now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So this next clip I just think is really funny because Alex is talking to this guy who played

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this video, one of his documentaries for his church, and Alex needs to know like how did

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it go?

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How did it go?

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Did I get a standing ovation?

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How did it go?

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So what were the reactions during the film?

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Were there any gasps during it?

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Yeah.

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I mean, there were-

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You fucking, you, fuck you.

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Were there any gasps?

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Were there any gasps?

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What an overconfident fucking...

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Not even like, did people like it?

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He went straight to how crazy did people find it?

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Yeah.

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Did people gasp?

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How many church ladies fainted?

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Yeah, I was going to say.

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How many people brought out their fans and, oh my.

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That's like James Cameron being like, hey, how did they like the new movie?

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Did anybody get down on their knees and begin to worship me?

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Is that, no?

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No zero people?

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Not even one?

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That's unusual.

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I'm going to have to call voter news service.

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They're going to have to get rid of another Kennedy for me.

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There's one last clip here and it's one of the other big headlines that Alex has been

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hitting and that is that there's been a little bit of a stock market downturn and the United

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States has lost, North America as a whole has lost some millionaires.

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I would like you to think about the way in which Alex describes relative wealth.

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Stock losses contributed heavily to a decline in the number of North American millionaires

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last year, even as the world's richest people are getting richer according to the new report.

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Yeah, the little middle class millionaires and that's lower middle class and you've got

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a billion and your family founded a few universities, you're kind of mid-level and then if you own

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the private central banks and print the money and own the military and you're so powerful

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people don't even know your name, like the crumps and others, you're actually an elitist.

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So that's going on.

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That's pretty interesting, that's his conception.

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Also it's not the crumps, it's the clumps.

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Starring Eddie Murphy.

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Of course.

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Yeah, that's like whenever they ask a politician, they're like, how much does a gallon of milk

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cost?

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$73.

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$7 million or four cents?

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I don't know, money isn't real to me anymore.

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It's really strange that Alex in 2003 would have this kind of a perspective.

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I don't know, CIA dentist, dad, his family comes from oil money, I wouldn't be surprised

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if he's not unfamiliar with the finer things and very unfamiliar with the poorer things.

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I do believe that Alex was a boy of means, let's say, but I still think so much of his

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primary brand is supposed to be like, I'm like you.

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Saying that having a couple million is being lower middle class, that's inaccurate.

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Do you know how many people have a couple of million?

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That would be the top 1%.

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There are a lot of millionaires, that is true.

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Even if I remember the numbers correctly, 90% of the country does not have anywhere

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near a million dollars.

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The middle class, which you would suggest is somewhere in the median, they're nowhere

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near a million dollars.

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Middle class is going to be something in the $100,000 a year salary.

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Let's hope.

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It's going to be in that conversation.

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Not a couple million dollars.

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At this point, ugh, a couple million dollars, jesus christ, they just have no idea.

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They just don't know.

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If you're rich, you just have no idea.

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If you're listening to Alex in 2003 and you hear that and you're like, I make 30 grand

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a year, you've got to be like, I'm so poor.

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Poor middle class is somebody who has millions of dollars.

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Jesus.

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Jesus christ.

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It's very strange.

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And I think it speaks to his brain.

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He's weird.

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He doesn't know how people live.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Rich people don't.

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Yeah, I think that has also about as much connection to reality as the day before when

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he talked to somebody who had been to heaven.

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Yeah, that's about true.

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Yeah, I like that we're keeping the fantasy element in this show going strong.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, you know, we come to the end of this year and we've had a little bit of a ride

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in 2003 while we have Alex on timeout.

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Yes.

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We'll be back to check in on him in the present day on Monday, but I needed, I needed a little

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bit of that, uh, that, uh, stay in the past kind of break for my own, my own wellbeing.

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Oh yeah.

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Um, agreed.

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And we learned that, uh, Alex and his friends have been trying to enlist sniper cores.

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Yeah.

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Um, for a long time, long time.

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People have just been thinking that it's a good idea to get sniper rifles for what's

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coming.

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Um, also I think it would be fun if we ever watch another one of Alex's films, if we just

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gasp at everything.

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How many gasps were there?

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We're going to count.

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We're going to fucking keep count.

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There's going to be a projector screen going to count them down.

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Also I'd really like to try, um, I don't have a car, but you do.

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I'd like to get your permission to drive it without a license and then try and get myself

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pulled over.

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And, uh, no, see, here's the problem there.

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One, I don't believe in the Bible, so that justification is out and two, I think the

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constitution is a bullshit.

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Also if I don't have a driver's license, I can't have insurance.

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Oh yeah, there is that.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, we're not going to do this.

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We'll figure it out.

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It's silly.

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Permission is not equal license.

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It's fine.

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Permission granted.

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Uh, we'll be back.

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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yeah.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed.

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Jordan.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We're on Facebook!

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Could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's

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work.

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Indeed.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Thank you so much for having me.