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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Shang, we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Rattle her, rattle her, rattle her.
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Need, I need money.
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Rattle her, rattle her, rattle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes.
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Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is that the conservation journey
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of the tributes to Selene continue.
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So, so far up to this point, we have had adopted a quokka.
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A quokka.
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And a baby elephant in Kenya.
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It's pronounced quokka.
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It is.
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Yes.
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And today, I'm thrilled to announce that Wuder got in touch
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and has protected four square meters of forest area
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in Belgium.
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Yay!
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In honor of Selene.
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Here's what we need.
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We need to overtake Rogan, and we
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need to carve out part of the world for just the walks.
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We'll survive.
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I think that you're getting into unhealthy culty territory.
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That's a good point.
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You're going back to your roots.
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That's a good point.
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A little.
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I think it's more amusing that this is turning out to be,
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like, people are just going, taking the ball
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and running with it in the directions
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that they come up with.
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And some really cool conservation type ideas
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and supporting and, what's it called?
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Charitability?
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Yeah, something along those lines.
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Philanthropy.
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I really think that that's cool.
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I think it's amazing.
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And so thank you so much.
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On behalf of my cat, Selene, she says, meow.
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How about you?
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This has taken a quick turn towards the cult.
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We went to worship at the altar of Selene,
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and now we have adopted people.
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Yeah, no, this is, yeah.
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But it's protecting wildlife.
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No, it's good.
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We're a good cult.
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I think we're a good cult.
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The cult is just donating to preserve wildlife.
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Exactly.
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That's a great cult.
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At no point in time has anybody sacrificed anything
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to anybody.
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There's no tenants?
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No.
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So you, what's up?
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My bright spot, Dan, is early in June, or late in June,
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I think Rory Scoville released his documentary stand-up
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special, and it is fantastic.
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So what he did was he did six nights of improvised stand-up
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at this kind of dilapidated slash amazing, incredible,
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holy comedy club.
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And it's fantastic, not just because it's really,
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really funny.
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I mean, he's very funny on stage, obviously.
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Scoville's really, really great.
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But because it shows him analyzing his sets afterward,
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like, he's committing to doing an improvised hour, you know?
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And as a comic, you know if you're doing that,
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there's a good chance you're going to get a 5,
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10-minute stretch of like, oh, this is nothing.
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This is nothing.
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So there's that fear of...
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He might get a 20-minute stretch.
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Yeah, sure.
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He might get an hour stretch, you know?
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But there's that double-sided fear for him of like,
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I don't want to go into a joke.
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Mm-hmm.
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But that's what comics have always trained themselves to do.
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True.
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You're riffing for five minutes, the riff runs out,
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and you're like...
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If things are going bad, the way you save yourself would be like,
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well, I got to pull out a joke.
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Exactly.
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Or, you know, that kind of thing.
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And so it was that constant fight,
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and then the way that he analyzed it afterwards of like,
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why is it getting sexual too soon?
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And he's like, well, because I've never done this before.
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It's just like when you start out as a comic,
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it starts out real blue, and you do nothing but dick jokes,
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that kind of thing.
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That sounds like an interesting sort of psychological deconstruction
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by way of analyzing your own stand-up sets
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and your own tendencies under pressure.
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It is!
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It's really interesting.
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It's really good.
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And it's very funny.
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I may have to check that out.
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I would.
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I would recommend it.
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And also there's the story of the comedy club,
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and it's this guy...
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The story is amazing.
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Anyways, check it out.
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Once I'm done with Survivor, I'll check that out.
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It's on YouTube, but we'll see you in three months.
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All right, so Jordan, today we have an episode from the past.
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We're going back to the past.
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I was sick of the bullshit.
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Here's what happened.
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On Friday, we will have a present-day episode,
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and we'll talk about fucking Mike Lindell and all this nonsense.
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Oh, God.
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But I kind of got to a point where I was sitting here,
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and I was like, all right, no matter what,
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if you get into...
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If you open up an episode of Alex Jones's show,
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you're gonna find something.
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Sure.
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Right?
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There's gonna be something to talk about,
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but is it gonna be something bizarre,
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like maybe a new species of animal?
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Sure, could.
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Or is it gonna be a body?
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Right.
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There's a cornucopia of possibilities.
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Yes.
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That is one thing that's an advantage.
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In the present day, it's always upsetting.
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Anti-vaxx.
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It's gonna be a bummer.
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Yeah.
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And I just was like, I was resistant to open up that cover
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and see...
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I found myself resisting doing it,
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whereas in the past, you might find a new fossil or something.
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You might add to the...
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I don't know if this metaphor is making any sense,
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but the point is I didn't...
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I wanted to put off talking about the present day.
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The point is when we go back,
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we might find out that you gotta give it up
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to the Somali pirates.
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Right.
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That's what's there for us in the past.
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What's here in the present is just everybody's gonna die.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So today we're going over May 30th, 2003.
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Ooh.
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But before we do, let's take a little moment
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and say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Paul EC Wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I hate to say it.
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It took me a second to get there, but I did.
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Thank you very much.
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I too have been watching House Reruns on Pop.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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Next, Rogue Pelican.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Rogue Pelican.
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I should say also, I believe it was season nine
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is when the Pelican makes its first appearance into Survivor.
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Oh, is that what that...
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I thought it was talking about our Pelican reference.
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Oh, no.
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I mean, sure.
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There's the emotional support Pelican,
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but this was not the case on Survivor.
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He was not emotionally supportive.
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He's a little moody.
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Ah, that sounds about right.
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But great.
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What a great Pelican.
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Okay.
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Next, Psst.
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Wanna buy a tiger?
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, definitely not the literal biblical devil.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Ooh, that's just what he would fucking say.
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Sneaky.
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Yeah.
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Next, Catherine S. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Catherine.
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And we had a technocrat in the mix,
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and this is my Info Wars obsessed coworker.
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I started buying pills and shirts from Alex,
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so I'm becoming a technocrat to bring balance to the fight.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.
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All right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimped so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare Info War on you.
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Thank you so much.
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My Info Wars obsessed coworker.
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I started buying pills and shirts from Alex.
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I'm becoming a technocrat to bring balance to the fight.
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Thank you very much.
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That was well done.
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That was not quite auctioneer, but it was real close.
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Yeah, I started to run out of breath and fall apart towards the end.
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All right.
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And also for helping us out with a special project,
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we have a new raptor princess, Joanna.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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I'll barbecue your ass.
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It's over for humanity.
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You're a beautiful soul.
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They're coming for your balls.
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Well, I piss all over your God.
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Very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies.
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I piss all over the state.
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Make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage.
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When they are.
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Comment as you see fit.
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Thank you so much, Joanna.
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Yes, thank you very much, Joanna.
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That's the raptor.
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That's the raptor from now on.
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Yeah, I like it.
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So, Jordan, this episode is an interesting little glimpse
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into where Alex was at at the end of May in 2003.
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Obviously, still looking to see if he believes he's fighting
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the devil in 2003.
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True.
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Still trying to see his relationship with the Iraq war,
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especially this thread that we didn't expect to find,
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where he is in denial about de-bathification.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm fascinated to see how all this plays out,
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and there's some interesting stuff in the mix for today.
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But the lead story.
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What's that?
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Holy shit.
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Bill Clinton's coming back.
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Okay.
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I didn't talk about a story that broke a couple days ago.
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Bill Clinton said he wanted to get rid of the 22nd amendment
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so he can run again.
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But Republicans have introduced bills as well.
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So the princeling, George W from Kenny Buckport, Maine,
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can run again.
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For those in our audience outside the United States,
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the 22nd amendment was added to the Constitution in 1947,
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essentially to make sure that someone could only serve
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two four-year terms as president.
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Prior to this, it was just kind of understood
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that this was the norm, with George Washington
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setting an unwritten precedent by not seeking
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a third term in office.
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This amendment was ratified when it was, in 1947,
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because the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt
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had just ended, who served three terms
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and had won a fourth election for the presidency
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but died in office.
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People kind of realized at that point that this norm
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that everyone just assumed everyone would accept
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was not actually a rule and maybe we should put it on paper.
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We've kind of learned some more of those things lately.
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It was called the Calm It Down Roosevelt Amendment.
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That was the first name of it, yeah.
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Since then, presidents have been bound by these term limits,
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although the wording of the rules has often caused
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some debate to pop up.
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For instance, conversations often happen about whether
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a two-term president could run for a third consecutive term
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if they were vice president on the third term.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Bill Clinton was speculating that it might be a good idea
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to allow someone who served two consecutive terms
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to run again at a later date,
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essentially making the term limits only apply
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to the consecutive terms.
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Sure.
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He was giving speech at the, probably not a coincidence,
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John F. Kennedy Library and Museum in Boston,
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where he speculated that given that people were living longer,
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quote, there may come a time when we elect a president
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at age 45 or 50, and then 20 years later the country
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comes up against the same kind of problems
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the president faced before.
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So that's basically, you know...
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He's at the John F. Kennedy Library.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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According to the article on his speech that was in the BBC,
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quote, the former president said such a change
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probably would not apply to him,
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but would benefit future generations.
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So that's what the kernel of this is.
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Sure, sure.
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In 2003, Representative Serrano introduced
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House Joint Resolution 11,
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which was aimed at repealing term limits for the presidency.
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He did this literally every other January
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from 1997 to 2013, and every bill died in committee.
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Oh yeah.
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Between these years of 1995 and 2005,
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Representative Steny Hoyer also introduced bills
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to repeal the 22nd Amendment,
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and both of these dudes did this,
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regardless of which party held the presidency.
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So when Alex is saying that, like,
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people are doing this in order to get their guy more terms,
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it's like, no, they're doing it because they don't believe
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there should be term limits for the presidency.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's kind of, they're doing it even if it does
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bite them in the ass, and Reagan gets a third term.
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It's just what they do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the prospect of a leader unilaterally declaring
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they want established term limits to not apply to them,
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that's something that should maybe be seen as a warning sign,
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but for Alex to report this news
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without the appropriate context,
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I think this is a bit of a lying by omission.
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Yeah, yeah, especially when we live in the present
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and you just heard everybody being like,
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I don't think there's anything wrong with Trump
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getting a third term.
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He didn't even get a full one his first term.
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And you're like, I don't even, whatever, that, yeah.
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Yeah, a lot of shirts going around with various dates
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for Trump to be in presidency forever.
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Yeah, and also that argument from Clinton
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is really, really stupid.
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Really stupid, because if you're saying to me
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that 20 years after a president,
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we find ourselves in the same problems,
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that president was a shitty president then.
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Maybe, or maybe there are problems that you can deal with,
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but you can't deal with permanently.
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That is possible that things could recur.
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I would say in relation to Clinton's argument,
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that if that were the case,
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that a president was particularly good
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at dealing with something.
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And then 20 years later, the same issue popped up.
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There's a really good chance we would have studied
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their response to the issue.
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Probably.
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And maybe somebody else could implement
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a lot of the same things.
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You wouldn't need the exact same person to deal with it.
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It's not like they have a magical, individual power to-
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Only so long can help us now!
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's maybe not the most compelling argument.
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Although, I do see that some people, you know,
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who are opposed to term limits don't have the worst ideas ever.
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Sure, sure.
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I think there's valid arguments to be made for and against.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that.
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I mean, I think what's funny about saying it at the end of the show
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and not saying it at the Kennedy Center is just like,
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you could also be like,
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and your entire family should run the country forever!
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Why is this a problem?
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So Alex has a studied prediction.
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Uh-huh.
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And I want to say this.
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Like, this is why, going back to the past,
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one of the reasons it's particularly fun for me
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is because there's so much going on now
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with Alex trying to be like,
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I've always been right.
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Yeah.
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I predicted everything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so many people online who want to argue about like,
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it turns out Alex Jones was right about everything.
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Right again.
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Look, I'm just a Joe Rogan, bro,
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but I got to tell you, Alex,
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when's he been wrong?
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He just keeps being right.
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Every time he shows up,
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they only talk about the times when he's right.
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And there's so much he's wrong about.
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This is hilarious.
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We're probably actually going to see Hillary in there in 08.
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Before 08, probably by 06,
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you're going to see Bill Clinton as Secretary General.
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He'll then serve a term there and then run for president here.
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Sure.
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It's a frightening prospect,
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but we'll discuss the real political paradigm.
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I'll give you insightful analysis from my years of study
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on this subject and my predictions.
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So Alex has these predictions that these are shit.
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No, they're great.
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They worked out exactly.
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He couldn't have been more wrong about any of that.
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Hillary lost in the 2008 primary to Obama
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and Bill Clinton is not nor has he ever been
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the Secretary General of the UN.
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Also, there aren't established eight-year terms
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for UN Secretaries General.
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No.
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Their terms last varying amounts of time over history.
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But since 1971, it's become tradition
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that a person's elected to the position for a five-year term
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and they will get a second term
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unless it's vetoed by a member nation.
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Yeah.
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This has only happened once since,
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with Butros Butros-Gali not getting a second term in 1996.
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The next two Secretaries General Kofi Annan and Ban Ki-moon
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serve full 10-year stretches in office.
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For someone whose big villain in the world is the UN,
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Alex seems to not have a very good grasp on how they operate.
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No clue.
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For someone who has years of study to bring this analysis,
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you're like, what?
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Also, also, just on its face,
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can you imagine the United Nations electing
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a former United States President as the Secretary General?
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We're going to talk about just how unrealistic
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that is a little bit later.
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That's insanely unrealistic.
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I would be very comfortable with saying
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that we will never see the day.
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Ever.
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That not only a former president,
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but a high-level US diplomat
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will never be Secretary General of the UN.
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They don't want anybody to bomb anybody.
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You can't have anybody running the UN who's like,
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let's bomb sometimes.
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No!
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There is a lot of distributed power
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among the Security Council and such
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in terms of the organization of the UN.
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But there's really something important
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about the representation that is given
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by having different regions of the world represented
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by the Secretary General.
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Absolutely.
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And so whenever there is a new appointment coming up,
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there will generally be conversation
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of what region of the world is up this time.
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And the United States belongs to a group
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that has had a lot of times being up.
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They've had a number of terms in the Secretary General ship.
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And so first of all, you're not going
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to probably see anybody from the United States,
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first of all, ever.
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Ever.
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But then second, you're not going
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to see it before there's not another person probably
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from an Asian country.
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Totally.
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Or from Eastern Europe.
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There's never been someone from the Eastern European region
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who's been in the Secretary General position.
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So these things are important.
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And they're important to the countries
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that do have those veto powers over the process.
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Yeah, I know somebody in Hungary who's
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really looking for that Secretary General job.
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It's just ridiculous.
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If you have any awareness at all, and like I said,
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we'll talk about it in more detail later,
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but if you have any idea about how any of this stuff works,
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just on a structural basis, you couldn't possibly
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think that these were in any way reasonable conspiracies
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to have.
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Absolutely not.
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There's just no way they could ever happen.
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No, some of the member nations of the UN
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have been like, we just had the United States invade us.
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We just had them in here.
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We can't be having them run the UN.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Again, there's one really big reason
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why this will never happen.
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We'll get to a little bit down the road.
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But you'll notice that these predictions,
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no matter how bad they are and how wrong they continue to be,
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they often don't change.
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In more recent days, we've heard Alex
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try to reuse this exact same conspiracy,
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but with Michelle Obama becoming president
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and Barack becoming the Secretary General of the UN.
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It's all a load of shit, but it's really effective
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in terms of terrifying the audience.
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And so Alex can constantly just recycle this stuff
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with just slightly different details
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changed to suit the times.
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Yeah.
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It's all bullshit.
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I mean, to a certain extent, if the President
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of the United States and a former President
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of the United States was a UN Secretary
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General at the same time, I think
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I might believe in the globalists.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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Dude, if the President was married
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to the Secretary General of the UN
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and they also happen to be a former President.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Yeah.
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No.
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No.
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Even if it isn't a conspiracy.
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No.
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Just no.
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No.
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Whatever's going on is wrong.
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There is a structural problem with the organization
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of what's going on and we cannot allow it no matter what.
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Yeah, if John F. Kennedy had been like,
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hey, Robert, you've been doing a great AG job.
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I'm going to need you to do a SG job at the UN.
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Even us would be like, look, no more brothers in politics.
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Sure.
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No more.
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Yeah.
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And let's say people who I have mostly positive feelings
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towards, Barack Obama and Michelle Obama,
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I still would be furious about that prospect.
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But it's laughable.
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Yes.
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It's honestly laughable just based on what things
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would need to happen in order to get to that point.
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It's just ridiculous.
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Both China and Russia agree.
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Clinton will be the next Secretary General.
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There's like, it's important to understand
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when you're talking about something that is this conspiracy,
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like Clinton's going to become the Secretary General of the UN.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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You kind of have to discuss how one becomes
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the Secretary General of the UN.
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Or at least you have to give me some kind of an idea
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that you understand it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or else I'm going to say that this is bad analysis.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And that's what Alex seems to pride himself on,
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that this is real analysis.
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Listen to this horseshit.
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Absolutely.
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We are the leader in real information, in true analysis.
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You don't hear the mindless infighting on this show,
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the conspiracy theories, the issues of little or no significance.
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I'm sorry, what?
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And on some of the other so-called Patriot talk shows,
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we certainly cut the lies of the false left-right paradigm.
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So go ahead, folks.
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Stay with us and keep up with the Joneses.
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Great.
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Great.
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Flash forward to the present day.
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Brian Stilter looks weird.
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Will fucking kill Brian Stilter!
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His face looks demonic the way his cheeks curl.
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You know, you can't smile like that unless you're possessed by a demon.
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Unless you're possessed by the devil.
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That's the only way to smile like that.
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And this is why we cut through the false left-right paradigm.
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Now flash forward to a little bit earlier in time.
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Oh, Glenn Beck, I hate him.
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Oh, I hate Glenn Beck.
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He stole everything from me and we fight all the time.
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Everything is fake.
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I don't get bogged down in the conspiracy theories.
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Every shooting didn't happen.
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Drudge is amazing.
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Drudge is evil.
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Drudge is amazing again.
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Oh, someone bought him.
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Yeah.
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Okay, whatever.
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So Alex has a little bit of a complaint about Bush.
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Um, I'm fine.
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He claims that he came into the tenure of Bush in office
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with the position of like, let's see what happens.
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But then he was disappointed immediately.
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And so, you know, I'm saying, okay, let's just see what Bush does.
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Well, he comes out of the gate and says,
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I'm going to take over the churches with faith-based initiatives, open borders.
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And I'm not going to go after Bill Clinton.
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I'm going to block Dan Burton's committee.
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I mean, they could have arrested Bill Clinton.
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This guy was pardoning convicted cocaine dealers and taking money from them.
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That's illegal.
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They can pardon them.
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They just can't take money from them.
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Taking money from convicted money launderers and arms traffickers.
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This is all out in the open.
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Bill Clinton could be behind bars right now, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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This is so interesting.
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The way that which Alex is, he has a consistency
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in his desire to see his political enemies prosecuted.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Um, for crimes that he's imagined they've committed,
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that are almost identical to the crimes that his heroes are committed.
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I was going to say the crimes that he imagines his enemies committing
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are ones his allies are committing openly and often.
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Yeah, but they're not.
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No.
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So another problem with Bush, it comes down to the Senate elections.
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Okay.
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In 2000, when Bush came into office.
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Sure.
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This really confused me, but I think I figured out what Alex is talking about,
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but I still am not 100% positive.
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George Bush says, you know what?
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We've got one more vote than the Democrats in the Senate,
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but we're going to go ahead and give them 50 50.
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Never happened before.
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Bush ordered the Republicans, give them 50 50.
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Then they had Jeffords switch in that staged event
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to give the Democrats control of the Senate.
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And that was totally staged folks.
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They admit it.
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So they admit it.
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Who?
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I don't know.
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Who admitted it?
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I don't know.
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Who admitted that?
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And what did they admit?
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Why would they admit that?
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More importantly, what?
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What exactly?
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They gave them 50 50.
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Yes.
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Bush gave them a seat.
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How?
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So here's the thing, I'll jump ahead to that.
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Okay.
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Because that was sort of what I was going to explain last.
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And I think that what he's getting at is that Bush stopped the recount in Florida.
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Oh.
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And Florida was a previously Republican held seat.
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Right.
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The incumbent had retired.
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Right.
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And the Democrat ended up winning the election.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And I guess maybe Alex thinks that if the recount had gone forward.
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Right.
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That the Republican would have won the seat.
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But based on the percentages, I don't think that's the case.
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The Democrat was pretty handily ahead by like 5%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex should really be thanking his gourd that they stopped that recount.
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And his body was involved in it.
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Yeah.
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Involved in stopping that recount.
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Yeah.
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I think that that's the only way that I can look back and make sense of this.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's probably what he's talking about.
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Because they gave...
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Yeah.
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And he would almost view it probably as like a trade of like...
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Something like that.
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Florida got the president, so they got the Senate.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not all Senate elections stick out in your memory, but 2000 was special.
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It sure was.
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That was the election where John Ashcroft lost the Missouri Senate race to Mel Carnahan,
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who had actually died prior to the election.
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As someone who was in Missouri at the time, this was gratifying for me,
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because I hated John Ashcroft as an asshole.
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He was a piece of shit.
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Yeah.
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After the 2000 Senate elections, the vote was tied 50-50,
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with the vice president casting the tie-breaking vote.
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Then, in June 2001, Jim Jeffords, previously a Republican, decided to go independent,
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and he started to caucus with the Democrats.
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In a book he would later release, Jeffords explained that he began to feel alienated by the GOP,
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particularly in their refusal to support and fund the Individuals with Disabilities Act,
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which had been a major priority of his for at least, like, decades before this.
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I'll read to you here from a statement that he released after he decided to switch parties.
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Quote,
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Increasingly, I find myself in disagreement with my party.
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I understand that many people are more conservative than I am,
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and they form the Republican Party.
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Given the changing nature of the National Party,
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it's become a struggle for our leaders to deal with me, and for me to deal with them.
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Indeed, the party's electoral success has underscored the dilemma I face within my party.
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In the past, without the presidency,
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the various wings of the Republican Party and Congress have had some freedom to argue,
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and ultimately to shape the party's agenda.
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The election of President Bush changed that dramatically.
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We don't live in a parliamentary system,
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but it's only natural to expect that people such as myself,
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who have been honored with positions of leadership,
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will largely support the president's agenda.
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Looking ahead, I can see more and more instances
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where I will disagree with the president on very fundamental issues.
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The issues of choice, the direction of the judiciary,
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tax and spending decisions, missile defense,
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energy and the environment,
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and a host of other issues large and small.
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The largest for me is education,
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which loops back to the Individuals with Disability Act issues that he was very passionate about.
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You can make an argument that there was like some backroom dealing involved,
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because duh.
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After he switched parties and gave the Democrats a slight advantage in terms of votes,
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he was given the chairmanship of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee,
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but he could also kind of make the argument that this was making up for the chairmanship
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that he would necessarily lose when he leaves the Republican Party,
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that he had held for a long time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I don't know, I don't know, like that doesn't feel staged to me.
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I don't see anyone admitting it,
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and I don't, I don't know what was staged about the ending of the recount.
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I don't understand how any of that's staged or admitted.
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But it's interesting, that stuff's interesting.
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Yeah.
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Ashcroft losing to a dead guy.
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A dead man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's fun.
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It's always fun whenever we hate somebody so much,
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we'd rather have a dead person in their spot.
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That's nice.
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Oh, also one more note about that.
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Ultimately none of this matters at all,
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because you remember like, you know,
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Mel Carnahan, he died before the 2000 election.
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Sure, sure.
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His wife Jean filled that seat for two years.
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Then in 2002 there was a special election where she lost to Jim Talent,
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and the Senate was under GOP control once again.
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Yeah.
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So Jim Jeffords defection was a big deal on paper,
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but ultimately it only mattered for a stretch of months.
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Yeah.
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Which are actually in the past,
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by the time Alec is recording the show in 2003, which is strange.
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Wow, what a useless piece of shit.
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That's an interesting way of recasting a certain amount of failure, I guess?
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I don't know.
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It's all staged, man.
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No clue.
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Look, man, none of these shows that Alec's...
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His competition?
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Uh-huh.
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Problem is they don't have substance.
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He doesn't have competition because they don't have substance.
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Well, great point.
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Exactly.
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I think that's a better way to put it.
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People out there, when you listen to these neo-cons,
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they'll make fun of stupid liberals with moron policies
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and the useful idiot low-level people.
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They don't talk about real substance.
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This is totally and completely staged.
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Remember, Booker's going to sign that assault weapons ban of Clinton's.
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They're going to reauthorize,
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and I've read what they're actually saying, folks.
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It's a lie that, oh, it isn't going to pass.
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It didn't happen.
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It didn't happen.
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Didn't pass.
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I almost would rather listen to something that doesn't have substance
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than something that's pretending to have substance and is drastically wrong.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It would be like...
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No, that's convinced it has substance and is convincing you of inaccurate conclusions.
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I would rather not have a pie than have a pie that he baked out of paper.
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You know, with no filling, no nothing.
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It's just a paper.
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It's a paper plate.
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I would rather not have a pie than have somebody give me a paper plate and say,
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eat this, idiot.
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Do I have to eat the paper plate or can I use it for something else?
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No, eat it!
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See, because I'm taking that paper plate that he's trying to give me
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and I'm using it to serve up a nice pie, which is our podcast, metaphorically.
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That's a good pie.
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In that case, I would love that paper plate.
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Well, this is why he makes you eat it in front of him.
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This metaphor has lost...
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It's run out.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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So Clinton is totally going to become Secretary General.
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Alex elaborates on this and here's where we're going to get into like,
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this is fucking stupid.
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Okay.
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And so what you're going to have is Bush elected in 04.
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You're then going to have Hillary Clinton or some other creature put into power in 08.
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And long before them, in the next two years, Clinton's already lined up.
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Most of the G8 countries, she's got six of the eight.
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What?
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To be Secretary General in the next two years.
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Clinton will serve as Secretary General for eight to ten years until Hillary leaves.
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He will then come back and be president here.
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Okay.
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So we'll have Bush and Clinton double teaming us and then we'll have Hillary Clinton
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in there while Clinton is a Secretary General.
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So understand for the last two years, for sure, probably the last three to four,
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you'll have Bill Clinton as Secretary General when George W is president.
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What?
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Then Hillary will come in and you and Secretary General usually serve eight to ten years.
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You will then have Hillary as president with Clinton as Secretary General.
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In this episode alone, it's almost impressive how much of a lack of awareness about the UN
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Alex seems to be displaying.
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He's been wrong about the way the terms work for Secretaries General and he's come up with
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this fun story about Bill Clinton trying to solicit votes to get in office.
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Alex is wrong about those details too, though.
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He said that Clinton needed eight countries and he'd gotten the approval of six,
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but that's not true.
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A candidate for Secretary General needs to have the backing of nine members of the UN
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Security Council and not have any vetoes from any of the permanent members who are the United
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States, the United Kingdom, France, Russia, and China.
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There are 15 countries in the Security Council at any time, so you'd need to have support
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of nine of them and not be someone who would be vetoed.
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Bill Clinton would absolutely be vetoed either by Russia or China if you already brought
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up one million percent.
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It's not even a question.
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There is no fucking way that would ever happen.
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Nonsense.
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Oh, yes.
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I, Vladimir Putin, say hello to you, Mr.
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Clinton.
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I can't wait to work with you going forward.
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It's an unthinkable prospect that Russia or China would not veto a former US president
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as a candidate for the UN Secretary General.
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It's nonsense.
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But Dick Cheney could get through.
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Probably not.
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Alex is basing that eight countries thing, like you said, off the G8, but that has nothing
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to do with the UN Security Council of deciding the Secretary General.
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No, different thing.
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The G8 is a yearly summit that was held among the Group of Eight countries until 2014 when
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they kicked Russia out and changed their name back to the Group of Seven.
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France, the United States, and United Kingdom are all G8 countries that have a permanent
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spot on the UN Security Council, so there is a little bit of overlap there.
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Sure.
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But the Security Council is made up of the five permanent members and ten rotating non-permanent
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member states representing different regions of the world.
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In 2003, when Bill Clinton would supposedly be trying to lock down these votes for UN
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Secretary General positions, there weren't even six G8 countries in the Security Council.
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There were the permanent members, France, the United States, the United Kingdom, and
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Russia, since they hadn't been kicked out yet.
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Sure.
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And that year, Germany was a rotating member.
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That was a G8 country that was in the Security Council.
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Cool.
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There's only five of the G8 countries that would have been even a factor in the decision
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about the selection of a Secretary General.
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Canada, Italy, and Japan weren't even in play.
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Ooh, but maybe Alex is talking about in 2006 when the whole thing would go down, not in
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2003.
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Right.
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Bill Clinton was just trying to plan prematurely, preemptively.
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Bush was still in office, there was still time.
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This doesn't work either.
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In 2006, Germany is no longer a rotating member of the Security Council, but Japan would be.
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Ooh.
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So the numbers actually just be the same, they balance out, it wouldn't work.
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Sure.
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It's really a big problem how little Alex seems to grasp about this stuff that he's
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talking and making these grand conspiracies about.
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He's pulling out numbers and making up fun, scary stories for the audience, but it's
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pretty embarrassing when you consider the reality how the UN works.
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Even if a candidate makes it through the selection process in the Security Council, they still
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need to be approved by the General Assembly afterwards.
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Though no one has ever been rejected by the General Assembly after being selected by the
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Security Council, the awareness that certain candidates would be rejected is a critical
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part of the Security Council selection process, and part of why it often ends up dragging
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on pretty long.
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There's zero chance that Bill Clinton or any former US President would not be voted
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down by the General Assembly.
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It's outrageously stupid.
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I am gonna tell you this right now.
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I refuse to take the predictions of someone who purports to be an expert in international
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affairs who would absolutely be destroyed by any 10-year-old in the Model UN club.
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Definitely.
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Just murdered by him.
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Yes.
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Murdered by a 10-year-old.
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Simple basics.
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A 10-year-old would be disappointed to have that conversation with an adult.
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It would rattle their entire perception of humanity and they would learn too young that
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adults are just bigger children.
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Yeah, and how if you're confident and, you know, amass enough false credibility, people
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will just go along with what you say.
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Like, the notion that, like, if you're in the Security Council and you're discussing
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like who should we put up for the Secretary-General-ship, it would be fairly obvious that it might be
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seen as insulting to the rest of the world to nominate a former US President and that
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would probably be a consideration.
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Like, it would be an affront.
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Generally speaking.
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It would give the message that the United States has an actual primacy in the world
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and that's not the message the UN wants to give.
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Yes, we are the body that represents a large number of nations who all have some sort of
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tension between each other in some form or another so we tend to elect somebody with
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a neutral, perhaps even a distant kind of view of how to deal with this on a global
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scale or this time we could elect one of the guys causing all of the tensions all around
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the world.
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I can't imagine that, like, yeah, just Russia and China would never be like, you know, it
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would be great.
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Yeah, let's do this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So dumb.
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Yeah, yeah, Obama has a peace prize and we all want it taken away.
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We don't want him anywhere near the UN.
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Alex is able to confidently assert these things because this space is so stupid.
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Yeah.
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Like, there isn't, like, people who are giving voice to the...
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That's not how this works.
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Sure, sure.
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Oh, no, no, it's magic.
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His co-host should be a 10-year-old in the Model UN class.
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Yeah, it would be devastating.
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It would be awful.
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Yeah, so Alex goes on a little bit.
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You've got to get us out of the UN.
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You've got to point out they're giving us two false choices of a liberal new world order
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or conservative new world order and point out we don't want a new world order, period.
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This has to be done now.
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You've got to grow up, put your thinking cap on, figure out what's happening, expose who's
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behind the terror, or they're going to keep using it to destroy your future, to take your
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pension funds, to wreck this nation.
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In the present, Alex is totally fine with a new world order.
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Oh, totally.
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As long as it's a Trump new world order.
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He said new world order.
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Yeah.
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They love it.
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A collection of Christian nationalist states that all work together.
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We have an international coalition of nationalist states who refuse to view international coalitions
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as being valuable.
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And we're also going to buy Greenland.
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We're going to take over...
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Yeah, nationalism, colonialism.
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He's really warmed up to new world's order, new world orders.
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New world orders.
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That Secretary's General thing is fucking with me.
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Yeah, it's really fun, but it's annoying.
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Yeah, so Alex has a guest on, and this person is apparently a member of a school board in
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Akron, Ohio, which is where they were having the discussion about the fingerprints for
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lunches, which again, one of the large arguments for is it's a bureaucratic nightmare.
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You need some sort of an organization.
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It's a large city school.
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Also, there are a high number of students who are on assistance programs and to take
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away the stigma that students feel and reduce bullying.
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This way, you wouldn't have to have a ticket that singles you out as a...
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Anyway, Alex wants her to...
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It's a boring interview, but Alex wants her to say that it's mandated, that the government,
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the federal government is making them do this, and she doesn't because it's not.
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Oh, so the federal government did mandate this.
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Well, they mandated the way the feds mandate a lot of things by saying you can have this
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money, however, you can only spend this money in this way.
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So while they don't tell you exactly what, you're limited on what kind of scanner system
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you can use.
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Mary, if I was on in Akron on the AMR FM dial...
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I wish you were.
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I could stop this.
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Well, the big conference are buying everything up and buying any station we get on, but...
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Yeah, so they're not mandating it.
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It's a grant.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, okay, so it's like somebody's giving you a hundred bucks for you to buy
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this thing that you need, and you can't just go spend it on drugs.
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It's tough.
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It's bullshit.
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It's the federal government telling me what to do with their money, and I hate it.
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Do you want some fun trivia?
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What?
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This woman that Alex is interviewing is the mother of Patrick Carney, the drummer from
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the Black Keys.
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Well, that is fun trivia.
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Yes.
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That is very fun trivia.
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Yep.
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I wonder how he feels about that.
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It has legitimately nothing to do with this interview, but I was so bored that I was like,
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who is this person?
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Can I find out anything about them?
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And it turns out she's the Black Keys drummer's mother.
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And in the process of looking at that, I realized that the Black Keys drummer, Patrick Carney,
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is married to one of my favorite singer-songwriters, Michelle Branch.
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Really?
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So this is the mother-in-law of Michelle Branch.
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This is a small world, Dan.
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Crazy.
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It's a small world.
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Everybody has love and will travel.
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So they are talking a little bit more, and this is the only other thing I really think
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was all that interesting.
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And I think Alex thinks the solution to school shootings and what have you is beating up
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kids, sure.
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I know that when I was in school, if I smarted off, they'd take me down and give me three
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pops.
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They'd make me run around the track till I threw up.
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But you can't do that anymore.
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So the kids instead of swell brats are coming with a gun and shoot people.
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Right.
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And then you have parents that they come in and they think their job is to be their kid's
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best friend, and they take the child's part in this.
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I mean, parents are ruining their children because they're uncomfortable with being parents.
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I know this.
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I want schools where they pop you.
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I want schools where they run you around the track till you throw up if you're bad.
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And then we have better schools at that point.
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Man, I don't know if I have much of a comment for that, but that's kind of sad.
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Hey, you know, if you don't want bad things to happen, you should psychologically and
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physically torture your kids.
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I don't know why everybody doesn't get this.
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Yeah.
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You know, you physically and psychologically torture children into behaving good as adults.
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And then later on when they're adults, they'll torture children into behaving good as an
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adult.
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And now we have our perfect system of all of those people.
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Can't we see that, dude?
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I think that it makes a lot of sense that you should give carte blanche to people who
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are in an educational capacity to enact violence on children.
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I want a stranger to beat my children.
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I want them to determine what is and is not appropriate behavior and then respond with
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violence.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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In fact, you know what?
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As a parent, I want less say over how my kids are beaten.
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And I would also like some of that violence to be torturous.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Like run until you vomit.
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Oh, and if you have a paddle, you better innovate a way to make it hit harder.
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Because if you don't, what's the point?
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Yeah, I don't like this position.
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No.
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Anyway, Alex, after talking to this guest, the mother of the Black Keys drummer, he goes
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to calls.
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I listen to a Christian station in the evening here locally in the Chicago area.
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And I forgot the gentleman's name.
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I had it written down at home and I left for work this morning.
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I forgot it.
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But I know the name of his video.
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It's called Monopoly Men.
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Have you ever heard of it?
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Uh, yes.
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What do you think of it?
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That's pretty good.
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I don't think Alex has seen it.
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No clue.
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Those sort of responses always are like, I don't know.
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Eh, it's all right.
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Monopoly Men wasn't an actual documentary.
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It was the title of an episode of a conspiracy show called Phenomenon.
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The series was hosted by Dean Stockwell, and this one had to do with the theories surrounding
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the Federal Reserve.
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Sure.
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It's pretty amazing to go back and look at this episode and see who they chose to talk
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to.
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Here are some of the experts that they consulted.
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All right, here we go.
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Give me a Paul.
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Give me a Ron or a Wayne.
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No.
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No Pauls?
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I didn't see them in the mix.
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Damn it!
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Uh, Andrew Arnold was interviewed, who is the, an editor for The Spotlight, which is
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that antisemitic rag published by Willis Cardo.
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That's the one.
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They talked to Big Jim Tucker, who's the editor-in-chief of The Spotlight.
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You're not gonna not talk to Big Jim.
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That antisemitic rag published by Willis Cardo.
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Oh, and they also talked to William Still, whose film The Money Masters contains historical
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inaccuracies about the Rothschild family that have their roots in historical antisemitic
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propaganda, most notably the Nazi film The Rothschild Share in Waterloo.
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Clearly, this is the kind of hard-hitting TV episode that does their homework on the
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possible crypto beliefs that their supposed experts might be secretly pushing.
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Ooh, bad job, Dean Stockwell.
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Yeah, it really bums me out, because here's what they could just do.
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I'm tired of all the content they produce.
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Just every couple of weeks, put out another video of somebody straight ahead, like in
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a hostage situation, just going, eh, the Jews did it, and then we all got it.
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That's what they all say.
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It's the same documentary a million times over.
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Well, they would never do that, because you can't really persuade people with that.
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You have to couch your beliefs in these crypto talking points, which is essentially what
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this documentary about the Federal Reserve boils down to.
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And you can kind of tell by the guest selection that, I don't know if the people who are making
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this documentary series had a vested interest in really giving The Spotlight an unchallenged
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position.
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Hey.
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But it seems like it was at least negligent.
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Yeah, just fucking straight up.
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Hey, let's just get some Nazis in here.
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Straight up.
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What, are we not going to have Nazis on this documentary about the Federal Reserve?
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Very silly.
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Yeah.
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So Alex talks to a guy named Frank Dorl.
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He's another guest.
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All right.
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And this is a guy who's like an anti-war activist, and doesn't seem too bad.
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Kind of just seems like he might not know who Alex is entirely.
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Right, right, right.
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Might have some questions about 9-11 himself.
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Sure, sure.
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And you can see Alex, there's a really fascinating thing that happens here.
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Whenever Alex tries to relate to somebody who he doesn't actually relate to, it goes
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off track so fast.
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It's kind of controlling the paradigm, and still I understand what you're saying, but
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does your film expose that this stuff goes on in Democrat administrations as well?
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Oh, definitely.
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All right.
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You know, it's just as much during all these wars as Republicans.
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Yeah, because if we don't point that out, we don't go anywhere.
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Oh, no.
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Believe me, I am not a Democrat.
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I used to be.
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I used to be some years ago.
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Just like I used to be a Republican.
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You learn, you live.
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Well, Ramsey Parks says it on the tape, and Noam Chomsky says the same thing.
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There aren't two parties.
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There's only one party, the business party, the military business party.
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But I wouldn't even see, you know, you say USA did all this, or you say the business
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party, corporate America.
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It isn't corporate America.
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It's organized crime, Jolly Roger, piracy.
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They operate as crime syndicates.
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They don't operate as businesses.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, I think we're saying the same thing with different terminology.
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I know, but then all I see is the low level left who galvanizes a battering ram against
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the middle class.
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You know, take the environmentalists.
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They're busy out grabbing farms and ranches, and they're funded by the big corporations
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that are getting the land after this happens.
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But then nothing's happening with Texas company protein gene putting age virus in corn supplies.
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And you know about that?
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It's Associated Press pharmacological corn test.
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Why is it the left worried about that?
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Uh, I can't speak for everybody else.
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Yeah, that was weird.
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That exchange.
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Huh?
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So Frank Dorrell is a longtime anti-war activist who made a film called What I've Learned
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About US Foreign Policy, The War Against the Third World, which was released in 2000.
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It's not really an original documentary, since a lot of it is just clips of speeches
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by Martin Luther King Jr., Jimmy Carter, and Amy Goodman.
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Sure.
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And there's even a 20-minute section in it that's just clips from a different documentary
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about the Iran-Contra affair.
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Oh, of course.
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It seems like Frank is a mostly level-headed anti-war fellow who seems to think that he's
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talking to the same sort of person, just like they have a few different political ideas.
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What happened there is what I see happen when Alex tries to find this common ground.
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What happens is, the common ground is established in that they believe that the problem of militarism
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is not unique to the left or the right.
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And then immediately Alex will start ranting about some other bizarre talking point that
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has nothing to do with what's being discussed, like HIV and the corn.
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There you go.
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This is a complete curveball, and it's meant to disorient Frank, or at least put him in
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a sort of defensive posture.
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Even in situations where Alex is trying to present agreement with somebody who's ostensibly
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on the left, he still needs to assert dominance.
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And honestly, it comes off really weak and confusing.
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Yeah, and there's always the moment where the person gets it.
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You know, that is when he just went, oh no, I am on with a lunatic.
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I'm fucked.
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Or maybe at least you start to get worried about it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, this interview is fine, because Alex backs off on that a little bit, and they
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just sort of talk about war sucking.
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Sure, war sucks.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I agree.
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So Alex ends this interview, and he's concerned about border towns.
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The devil?
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No.
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Well, the devil may come up.
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You let your college kids, even your high school kids, go over the border into this
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area, and they are being sacrificed by satanic cults.
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Now, that's a myth, and they mention that here in the article.
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So what do you think about this?
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I mean, how bizarre is it that these drug dealers who sell their drugs predominantly
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to the CIA are satanists?
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Now, I know that sounds crazy, but it's the fact.
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So there's a couple issues here.
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I like the idea of being an anti-war activist, and all of a sudden he's like, you know,
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kids are being sacrificed to satanic cults, huh?
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What do you think about that?
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I think I took the wrong booking.
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So in terms of my idea about figuring out if Alex thinks he's fighting the literal
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devil, it still doesn't help.
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No, it does.
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Because a satanic cult could be misdirected.
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Exactly.
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They could be worshipping a god that doesn't exist.
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Right.
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And for Alex, in the present day, we know he believes, hoof.
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Oh, yeah.
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Pitchfork.
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Literal Christian devil.
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On your shoulder telling you when to do evil.
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And getting into people's heads and making them morph into faces that go black.
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Of course.
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Revealing himself to certain people and letting them in on his plan.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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This still is like, I could see somebody being like, look, I'm fighting a satanic cult.
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I don't believe what they believe, but look what they're doing.
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Right.
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You could still have that.
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No, and there's tons of people still on the right who do recognize that the Church of
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Satan is not actually worshipping their literal Christian devil.
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Right.
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So many of them disagree with that, but.
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This doesn't do it for me in terms of that open question.
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Right.
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Now, I will say that I've been to Juarez, and I did not get sacrificed to...
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Not once?
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No.
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Not even one time.
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Not even a little bit?
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No.
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Didn't take a toenail?
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No.
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Nope.
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I ate some of that corn.
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Oh, no.
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It's good.
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Are you okay?
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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Street vendor had some corn.
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Oh, that's good.
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Had some spice on it.
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Ooh.
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It's real good.
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Little Mexican street corn?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's good stuff.
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Fantastic.
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That's great stuff.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Anyway, I guess people are being sacrificed to the devil.
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Ah, damn.
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So Alex has been wrong about a number of things, and he continues to be wrong about something
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that we mentioned earlier is an ongoing theme.
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An Iraq mass murder, freedom, and mix-up, yeah, sure, the Ba'athists are all CIA folks,
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and that's what they're putting into power now, the Ba'athists.
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10 people who rants it on the regime.
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The U.S. has admitted it accidentally released a former Iraqi official accused of being involved
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in the murder of thousands of Shiites.
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They say it's an accident.
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So Alex is still, as of May 30th, convinced that the Ba'ath party is being put in power.
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No change in that status quo.
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Yeah.
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He is still, he's still looking to make that, or I don't know if he's even looking to,
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but it's still, if there's a pivot, it's in the future.
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Yeah.
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This is weird.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How are, that's, that's a weird thing, that's a weird hill to die on, you know, like,
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because you don't have any vested interest, there's no, there's no real part of the
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conspiracy that requires them to put the Ba'ath party in there.
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You could just say that the CIA took over the other people because they were all CIA.
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I imagine that might be the direction he goes eventually.
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Yeah, it's not hard to, but why would you fight against the grain on that one?
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Like the, the idea of still having a conspiracy, it seems salvageable.
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Sure.
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Because you can just say, ah, this person also CIA, like you said.
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But yeah, this, this abject denial of something that is going on as a major issue is, is strange.
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Yeah.
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And the idea that you, your audience is going to have a, an interesting view of the differences
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between Sunni and Shiite is maybe a little silly.
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Perhaps.
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Yeah.
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So there's, there's one thing that you can do generally.
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And it's, it's not quite, I don't know if it quite applies to the Ba'ath party narrative,
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but in terms of Saddam, if you look at the way Alex is discussing the situation here,
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he's laid a perfect track in front of him where like,
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no matter what happens, he can try and pretend he's right.
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Also no bunker where U.S. bombs targeted Saddam.
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Turns out our government knew.
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Runners is reporting that nothing was there.
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It was totally staged.
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You claim they'd kill Saddam when they'd already flown the guy out from Tikrit under
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military escort to Russia.
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Oh, he's in Russia now.
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They're never going to catch Saddam.
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If we can play a lot, what they will do is they will grab one of his doubles and then
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then try that, that guy.
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Yeah.
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So now we have two possible situations where we find Saddam or we don't.
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Right.
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If we don't, Alex is right.
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They never would find him.
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And if they do find him, then it's just a double or double.
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So you've created a situation where no matter what, you have track where you can pretend
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to be right.
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It's a very lazy strategy.
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Yeah.
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I think the only one that you really probably couldn't fuck with just yet is that Saddam
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actually died in 1994 and it's been one of his doubles the whole time.
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Well, I don't know how big a part of the show Steve is in 2003.
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So that narrative has not been brought up yet.
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Oh, bummer.
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So Alex has a story here.
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It's about how there's death camps being announced in America, which is not the case.
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Right.
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This is going back to a headline that we talked about on a previous episode where there was
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discussion about the possibility of military tribunals that would lead to execution of
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prisoners in places like Guantanamo.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And Alex is relating that and turning it into a thing where it's like, well, that's going
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to be in Omaha or whatever.
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And so he's got that and look how smoothly he turns this into a plug.
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Monday, US announces death camps.
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They'll dig that article out and cover it next hour.
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You can't just cover something like that on Monday and leave it alone.
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I've got to recap the leak.
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They say it's a death camp.
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They say it's for quote terrorist, but the definition of terrorism is anything.
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And they admit they're building these camps and that's mainstream news.
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And it's in my new film, Police State 3 Total Enslavement.
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They have a large 20 minute segment of the two hour and 37 minute film.
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A large 20 minute segment of the film is about the camps, all mainstream news articles and
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bills and public officials speaking out.
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So you need to get Police State 3 Total Enslavement.
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You need to get it.
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You need to make copies.
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You need to get it out to everybody in your area and tell everybody.
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A lot of corporations now are sharing lists of websites they're blocking.
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Mine's one of them.
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So turn the heat up.
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Tell 50 people a day via email about infowars.com, about prisonplanet.com.
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Get involved in the guerrilla information war.
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Yeah.
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So it's a plug, but it's a plug for free publicity.
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It's a plug for street teaming.
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Yeah.
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Remember when we used to...
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Remember in the early days when I used to be like, oh man, I didn't see that plug coming.
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That was back whenever he used to be able to do that kind of stuff.
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There was a little bit of a natural organic thought that happened that went from A to
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B as opposed to A to M or whatever.
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It didn't go from murder to buy pills, you know.
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Like it was a little bit different then.
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There's at least connective tissue between like, here is something bad.
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Here is my plea that you watch my documentary about something bad.
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Right.
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And serve as free advertising for it to everybody.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Tell everybody.
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Yeah, it kind of makes sense.
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But it's still like pretty transparent.
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Egregious.
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You know what?
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I like a good 95 to 120 minute movie.
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That's about as long as they should be.
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187 minutes for that shit?
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For a third sequel?
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No, definitely not.
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I like too the way that this is like, also everything is just the same as ever.
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Like we have this UN conspiracy where it's Bill and Hillary as opposed to Michelle and
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Barack.
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Yeah.
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We have this, you know, the death camps and what have you.
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And also I'm being shadow banned on the internet.
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Yes, of course, of course.
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You got to send it out in your emails because you were being shadow banned in 2003.
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Amazing that he was able to like reach the levels of success with people blocking him
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in 2003.
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All the way back then.
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Yeah.
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I'm telling you, cancel culture was out of control.
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There was no way to grow into a massive international monster town.
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For some sort of context, like at one point in this episode, Alex mentions that he's on
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in 30 states in the country.
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He's not even on in 20 states.
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There's just no way to grow a business anymore if you're a white man.
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It's just, you can't do it.
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And you're shadow banned.
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Yeah.
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And here's a number, here's another thing that never changes.
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Everything's always the same.
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No, to answer your question before you've asked it yet, I haven't got the city to pass
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the resolution yet, the Liberty Preservation Resolution, but I did speak with the mayor
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the other day at the Memorial Day Parade.
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I wanted to touch base with you on that.
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For those who don't know what the Liberty Resolution is, some cities have passed minor
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parts of it, hundreds of others have passed other resolutions, reaffirming the Bill of
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Rights and saying, no, you can't arrest citizens secretly and blow their heads off.
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You do this all the time.
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In 2009, there's the big initiative to push the 10th Amendment Resolution.
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Just constantly trying to be like, hey, we still believe in this thing that's the law.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Everybody's bound by it.
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It's nice that we've always been hated by monsters, but what's especially nice to know
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is that they're also very, very lazy and just say the same things for years.
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Yeah, it is pretty interesting the way that there are those like, it just, it's like a
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band.
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It's like Boston will always play more than a feeling.
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Yep.
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Yeah, you have to.
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And Alex will always have some of these things that are just like, they're the hits.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Just I'm being censored.
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That's a hit.
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You know, it is like people listening to the same song on the radio over and over and over
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again.
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It's just like, yeah, give me that hate.
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Give me that pure hate.
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Just give it to me.
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I can't get that from Boston.
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I can listen to FM, but they don't make me hate stuff.
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You really give me that freedom to want to kill my neighbor.
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And the other thing, too, that's really weird here is that this notion that he wants to
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constantly be passing resolutions to affirm the Bill of Rights is, it's such a trap.
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It's so duplicitous because it's like, okay, first of all, it's a waste of time.
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You're wasting everybody's time.
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And now when people are just like, just fed up with it, like we did this a couple of years
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ago, why are we doing this again?
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Like, oh, you don't like the Bill of Rights.
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Exactly.
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It's just, it's such a stupid game and you can see him constantly playing it.
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Yeah.
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Oh God, it's annoying.
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The worst part is, even if it doesn't go anywhere, the waste of time is also a win for them.
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Just wasting our time is a win because it's time not spent, I don't know, improving anything.
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Or like, hey, let's fix roads or something.
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It's just, no, we got to spend three days in session saying, I think the Bill of Rights
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is good.
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We're already there.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has another guest.
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This is a pretty guest-filled episode.
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This is a pretty guest-filled episode.
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This is a person named Jan Ferman, who's a Belgian lawyer.
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And I don't know, I think I'm more or less okay with Jan too.
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Like, he seems all right.
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Yeah.
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Might have a little bit of a, it's hard to tell if there is a politeness or an inclination
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towards conspiracy in him.
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Okay.
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It's kind of tough to tell and I couldn't quite read it.
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I couldn't quite read exactly how the dynamic was.
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But you know, you have this person who's a lawyer in Belgium, who's part of bringing
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these charges against US military forces who have shot at civilians in a Belgian court
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in order to try and get these things addressed.
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Right.
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Then you have the anti-war activist guy who made a documentary that's just a bunch of
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clips of things.
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Yeah.
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I don't totally hate him.
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The lady from the Akron school board, I think, is wrong.
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And I think the issue is meaningless.
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But she's...
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The black keys are great.
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She's the mother of one of the guys in the black keys.
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So it's an interesting set of guests.
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Yeah.
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When nobody knew who he was, you could really get a diverse series of people to come on
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your show.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty bizarre.
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Yeah.
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But we talked about this a little bit because I mentioned on a previous episode that one
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of the people who was going to be a witness in this case in Belgium was on the show.
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And so now this lawyer is on to talk about that.
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So use a little clip of that.
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We filed the complaint on behalf of 17 Iraqis and two Jordanians, as you probably know,
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through recent amendment of the law.
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The Belgian government has the possibility now to decide to pass over the file to the
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US, which they say they intend to do.
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But there's no formal decision yet.
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And of course we will fight that decision because it's very clear that Iraqi civilian
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victims cannot get a fair trial before a US military court that would have to go into
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war crimes committed by US troops in Iraq and more especially by the supreme command
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of those troops.
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So this is all good and well, and I fully support Iraqi civilians having their day in
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court and being given a voice.
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I just have a bit of a problem accepting that Alex can credibly have this conversation because
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I'm not sure what his solution could possibly be.
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This gentleman is pretty clearly expressing the problem with expecting countries to hold
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themselves responsible for the atrocities that they commit, particularly during wartime.
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Yeah.
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Why would they want to do that?
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It would make them do less war.
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How could these Iraqi civilians ever get a fair hearing in a US military tribunal?
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This is where having international bodies can really shine.
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But Alex's worldview is diametrically opposed to any kind of infringement on the sovereignty
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of the United States.
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While preserving a hardline version of state sovereignty, there's absolutely no safeguard
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against a state acting however they want, provided they have the might to back up those
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actions.
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Like Alex can say like, well, we just shouldn't all you want.
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But that's not like a good way to organize things.
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No.
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No, absolutely not.
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Just look at how every self-regulated industry in the United States works.
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Very unregulated.
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Yeah, and you know, every country that's acting monstrously is not going to check themselves.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Turkey still won't admit to a lot of shit.
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Yeah.
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I don't think they're going to be like, hey, look, the genocide never happened, but we
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will discipline the people who definitely didn't commit that genocide.
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Checks and balances don't work when you're doing all of it yourself.
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No.
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It's just not.
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Why would you check and balance yourself?
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And that's why this conversation with this guy doesn't make sense to me, because what
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he's saying makes sense.
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Yeah.
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And I do appreciate on some level Alex's willingness to have this guy on.
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Sure.
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I certainly don't think he's the only person who would be willing to.
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I'm sure people like Amy Goodman would, and maybe it would be a less stupid conversation,
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but I just don't see how he could possibly have a solution to this problem that doesn't
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involve some amount of global government.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's just no way, like, how?
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How would it, what military is going to be like, hey, we are going to, like, they don't
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do it.
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They don't limit their options for murder.
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That's just how they work.
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And even when they say they do, that doesn't mean they fucking do.
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Uh huh.
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Oh, God.
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Yep.
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Damn it.
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So again, like I'm saying, I'm sure someone like Democracy Now would have a conversation
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with somebody like this.
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Yeah.
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Or there are other options, but I'm sure something like the majority report would talk
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to a person who has this kind of position or had it existed at the time.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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But somebody like Amy Goodman wouldn't talk like this.
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Last thing I had, Alex Jones, did you know the people that download music and stuff off
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these music shares?
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Yeah, you will be considered a terrorist, life in prison, or secret execution.
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I heard a little bit about that.
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You'd never hear that kind of nonsense.
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You wouldn't be they wouldn't be talking about Bill Clinton becoming the secretary general
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of the UN and then becoming president again.
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And if you go on Napster, you're going to get it executed or have life in a fucking
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hard labor camp.
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Ridiculous.
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Oh, man, I think stupid.
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I think he really took those.
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You wouldn't steal a car, would you?
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Commercials a little bit too seriously.
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Do you remember that, like whenever like movie piracy was kind of so good and so like they'd
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have those commercials that would play before a movie would be like Ben Affleck.
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And he'd be like, come on.
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Yeah.
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Hey, guys, we need you need to support the industry.
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You can't be taking stuff.
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Yeah.
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I don't remember him saying or we'll kill you.
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Yeah.
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Or you're going to a labor camp.
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Hey, hey, look, we understand it's difficult.
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It's it's a lot easier to pirate movies.
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Maybe there's some distribution issues that we can fix, but don't do it.
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It's an industry that could die without your support.
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And if you don't support it, you will die.
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Well, it's it's these sorts of things that make it really difficult to take seriously
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the actual things that Alex is talking about, like interviewing this Belgian who's trying
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to advocate for civilians caught in a war zone.
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Yeah, like it's tough to see this as a worthwhile even the things that are valid.
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They're a worthwhile use of time, because I guess if you're the sort of person who
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thinks that you're going to be killed for using Napster, that's and I don't I don't
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know what you can bring to the conversation about this Belgian case.
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Right.
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Well, I mean, and not just that, but by elevating the stakes of a Napster download,
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you you're you're like, oh, no, human trafficking is a huge problem and all of this shit.
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And you're like, yeah, but the stakes are the same as pirating from Napster, man.
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Like you're devaluing other problems by making just a fucking torrent of death sentence crime.
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Yeah, you know, and you kind of make a farce out of just about everything.
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Everything.
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Yeah, everything.
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So Alex gets another call from a guy and this was this was weird.
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I didn't know what to make of this.
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OK.
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There's something very positive that's coming out within 23 days.
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Today will be 23 days.
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There's going to be an ad that's going to be run in the 12 major newspapers.
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And this ad is basically being ran by from the wilderness dot com,
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which is a website that does very similar to what you do.
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I know who it is.
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Oh, OK.
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Probably know about what I'm talking about then.
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That's you know, it's a great thing.
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So far, I was looking at the website this morning.
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And they need one hundred thousand.
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Sir, I don't support that organization to say anything about it.
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I'm just not going to talk about it.
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OK, OK, well, I'm going to sit here and talk about people.
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I just I just don't support it on my show.
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Whoa, not on my show.
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What is this?
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I hate the fucker from wilderness dot com.
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That's what he did.
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That's what he just said.
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I hate that fucker.
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I was confused.
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So I went to check out the wilderness dot com.
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I went back in the way back machine to make sure it wasn't something different in 2003.
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It's just like a survivalist store online.
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They sell like gun parts and things that you might need for the outdoors.
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Yeah.
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And the only thing that really stuck out to me is that they very prominently support the NRA.
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And I think that that might be Alex's bone with this person.
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You think so?
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Maybe they got into a fight because in 2003, Alex hates the NRA.
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Yeah, he thinks that's true.
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That's right.
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I forgot about that.
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Yeah.
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He only likes more extreme gun organizations in 2003.
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And other than that, I'm like, I don't know, maybe it's personal.
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Like maybe it's personal.
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It has to be something personal between the person who runs that site and Alex.
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Or it's about his support of the NRA.
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Whereas Alex prefers Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Rights.
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Yeah, but the way he said I'm not going to talk about people, though, that says it's personal to
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me.
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Yeah, but it still could go back to the NRA thing.
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That could be the root of their personal issue.
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True, true.
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They could have gotten into an argument about that.
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And then it spiraled out of control.
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I can't imagine why.
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I mean, you would need some sort of anger addicted, some sort of man who can't control
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his impulses to elevate an argument about the NRA into a friendship ending nightmare,
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right?
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You know what, though?
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Still, it's indicative of a level of control that you don't see from Alex in the present
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day.
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I'm not going to talk about this.
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Not on my show, man.
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I don't want to talk about people.
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It's not something we hear today.
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Brian Stelter looks weird.
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Yeah, it's strange.
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Restraint.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip here.
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And one of the things I've noticed going back on these 2003 episodes is that I think that
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Alex views his job.
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Here's how it works.
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Okay.
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Headlines for a couple minutes up front.
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Sure.
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Just reading headlines like a news reader.
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Yeah.
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A couple minutes at the end of the show.
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Three hours in.
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Read some more headlines.
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Yes.
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Fill the rest of the time however the fuck you want.
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It's about how you open and how you close.
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Yes.
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The middle part is less important as long as you close strong and you open strong.
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As pretending to be a news reader hitting the news.
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You're like, I am a journalist.
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I'm taking care of business.
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Yep.
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And then in the middle, you can take whatever calls you want.
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Talk to the drummer from the Black Keys.
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Mom, just do whatever.
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Hey, in an hour set, usually you can only take about 20 minutes off in the middle.
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But if you're doing Info Wars, you can take about two hours and 45 off.
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I think that'd be fine.
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I can kind of enjoy that.
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But I have noticed that like, it seems very intentional.
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Oh, interesting.
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Now, this is one of the news stories that Alex decides to hit at the end of the show.
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Okay.
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And it takes an interesting turn.
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Interesting.
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Please spread the word about the show.
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We have a long track record.
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We're here.
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We tell the truth.
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We don't get involved in infighting.
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We don't get involved in mindless garbage or conspiracy theories.
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We analyze the globalist, their own policy reports, what they're doing, expose the left-right
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paradigm.
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Because if you only expose one side of their system, one rail that this train rolls on,
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you only help the globalist.
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Gold reaches 15-week high as dollar slips financial times.
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Gold reveled in the misfortune of the dollar yesterday, reaching 374.40 per troy ounce.
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It's highest in 15 weeks.
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The precious metal has benefited from its inverse relationship
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with the dollar.
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This appreciation has sent prices up by $55 since the start of April.
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Some analysts believe gold is set to rise further driven not by the dollar's weakness,
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but by demand from Asia following a plan by Chinese government to allow individuals to
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trade gold.
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Gold is coming to its own.
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We are trying to see it going up faster this time.
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When it was 320, it was a buying opportunity, but now demand is coming from Asia, said Ian
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Williams at Der Launcher.
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Der Launcher, and it goes on and on.
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There will be a massive increase in demand as China is allowing its citizens to invest
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in gold.
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It's a means of recycling the trade surplus, keeping upward pressure off their currency.
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So what happens is they're dumping fiat dollars and buying gold.
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The commies tell their people to do it, but not here.
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Oh, it's bad.
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It's don't, don't, don't, don't buy gold.
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You ought to be in gold 5% or something.
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I know I am.
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I mean, you're just nuts if you don't.
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I'm in gold about 20%.
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It goes on and on and on with this vital news.
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That's not a news story.
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No.
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That's a gold plug disguised as a news story.
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And it's deeply unethical for Alex to not at any point declare that he is syndicated
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by Ted Anderson who owns Midas Resources.
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Because at this point he is.
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He is 100% affiliated with Genesis Communications Network and that, that kind of a protracted
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thing where, you know, you're talking about gold news and you should be in gold 5%.
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You're crazy for not.
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Like that's financial advice.
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That's, that's a commercial for gold that is being masqueraded as a news story.
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That's fucked up.
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That's a commercial in 2003 that gets you a little pat on the head from Ted Anderson
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and Bob Chapman's ears start to get a little bit hot and they're like, oh, I might have
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a job soon.
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Right.
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Cause you know what?
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On the show, Alex isn't talking about Midas Resources, but guess what?
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There's fucking commercials that Midas Resources puts in for themselves on the stream.
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Yep.
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So like if you are Alex and you're talking about how everybody should be in gold and
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you have people who are listening to the show, they will hear the commercials for Genesis
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Communications and they'll put two and two together.
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It's as good as a commercial for Midas at the end of this.
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Yeah.
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And I just think, I think it's sleazy.
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Info Wars was ahead of the game on Hidden Spawn Con.
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You know, it took a while to trickle up to the New York fucking times, but we got there.
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Alex needs to hashtag this shit.
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In some ways, Alex was right about the future, but he made it worse.
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So we, you know, if you look at this, you got, you got a pretty interesting bit of dynamics.
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Yeah.
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First you have the de-bathification still not being a real thing to Alex, which I find
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bizarre.
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You have the devil question still be a bit open.
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It's a little bit open.
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But you have these dumb predictions about stuff.
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Like, I just, it's very gratifying to me when you live in a time when everyone's trying
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to sanitize and hero worship Alex's past beliefs.
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Yeah.
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And you just go back and you glimpse an episode where he has no idea how the UN secretary
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generalship works.
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He makes completely stupid predictions about the political dynamics and paradigm that are
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going to evolve.
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I guess he was right about one thing.
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That was that Bush got reelected in 2004.
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That's true.
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That is true.
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He was right about that.
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That is true.
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Good on him there, but it's just embarrassing.
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It's just a sad, sad display.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, you listen to Clinton.
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Like that's the thing that does get to me like that, that Clinton being like, you should
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come back.
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Maybe we shouldn't have those term limits.
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It's just like, ah, I hate those people so much.
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We already have the Clintons around every fucking corner in the conspiracy world since
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they showed the fuck up in Arkansas.
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Like I've always had the Clintons in my life causing problems.
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I'm tired of them.
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Make them go away.
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I understand that.
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But if you are Bill Clinton and you're giving a speech at the John F Kennedy library, notably
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young president, and maybe you do actually have a sincere belief that organizing, you
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know, the political system could be done better if someone were able to come back to office
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later, why should you have to not say that?
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Just because conspiracy theorists will be weird about it.
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I'm not saying they should not have to.
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I'm saying that they should be gone.
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Just go into an island forever.
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Epstein's got one open.
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You guys have already been there.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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But we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook and Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed.
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Jordan.
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Yep.
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And if we're on iTunes, we could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundus.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
