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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan
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I love your room
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan
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I'm Jordan
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones
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Oh indeed we are, Dan
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Mr. Jones, if you're nasty
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No, we can't, we are not
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No?
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No, we're very kind people, this is a family show
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It is, family show
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Absolutely
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100%
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Uh, Dan I have a quick question for you
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Sure
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What's your bright spot?
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Why don't you go first?
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Uh, my bright spot Dan is over the weekend
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Uh, you and I got together
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Had a game night
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We had a lovely game night
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and we did not record it for a podcast
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Yeah, we could have though
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We
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There's hilarity
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Hilarity
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God, why don't we monetize social interactions?
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Everything? No!
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My bright spot is that it was great
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We haven't really hung out too much
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Yeah, that's true
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outside of the context of business
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Yeah
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So it was really good because we started this whole thing as just really good friends
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who want to hang out more with each other
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Yup
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And now we're back in the reverse situation where we're hanging out less professionally
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or more professionally than we are socially
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Yeah, that's true
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It was nice
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It was very nice
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It was lovely, I enjoyed it
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Yeah, I had a great time as well
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Yeah
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Good times
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Sounds like it
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Look, what do you want me to do?
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I'm a monotone guy
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Um, that is very nice
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Yeah
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My bright spot Jordan
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Yes sir
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Is something that's going to piss off the anti-maskers
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Ooh
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Masks
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That would piss off the anti-maskers, yes
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Because it's winter
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Yeah
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And now you got a mask
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It's great
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In Chicago, a mask is amazing
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Keeps your face nice
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Yeah, yeah, it keeps your face nice and warm
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Everybody's always like, yeah, you got a beard, it must be great during the winter
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It doesn't help that much
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It doesn't do that much
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Wind gets between the hairs
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It does
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But a mask
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It's not that thick
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A mask, my friend
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Fantastic
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You know, it was frowned upon to wear a balaclava all the time
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Yeah
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Yeah
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I always felt very self-conscious about having like something that was a face covering
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Sure
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In the winter
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Sure, sure, sure
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Previously
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Or it was just too burdensome or whatever
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You wouldn't wear a scarf around your face or nothing, no, no, no
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And, you know, in the past I've had some scarves, but they've been tough to keep on the head
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Of course
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But now, I mean, it's great
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Even if there wasn't a virus, I'd be wearing a mask around
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I don't know what these anti-maskers are all going on about
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It's very comfortable
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Now that it's socially acceptable, it's the wind
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Now that it's chilly as hell
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Anyway, this leads me to opening up the mailbag, Z
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Oh, right
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Typically, we have been doing some mailbag stuff on our bonus episodes
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Which you can find, even if you're not a subscriber, over on Patreon
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Yes
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Our Patreon page
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No charge or nothing
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Nope
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Just go to the page
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But that is where we've done more of the zipping
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Yup
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Of the mailbag, but I felt like this was important to go ahead and toss over your way
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Ooh, this is nice
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Yes, we got a couple of hats from Christina A
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We got some hats
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Yeah, they say Policy Wonk and Raptor Princess
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That is fucking awesome
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Some nice winter hats
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That is so cool
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Dan and Jordan, I hope these hats keep your heads warm during the coming Chicago winter
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Making them was a pain in the ass, but you guys are worth it
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Even though Jordan has a garbage opinion on Schitt's Creek
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I accept that
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So I got a postscript here
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We harvested 11 butternut squashes off one plant this year
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Congratulations, Christina
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Wow, that's really good
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Had to brag to my plant guy
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I applaud you
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Although I'm not a squash guy
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I'm not a gourd lord
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Is that what they call themselves?
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Yes
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I don't hoard the gourds
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I don't know, maybe I should try more
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Maybe I've given squash a bad rap
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I think it may be something that's worth exploring in the future
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If you were a giant robot in the Power Rangers
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Given a title and
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I know where you're going with this
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If you liked to maintain a large number of pumpkins
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Land it
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What would you be?
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Gourd zord?
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No, you would be a lord zord hoarding gourds
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Oh, I didn't realize I was going to have
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That's why the Power Rangers was involved
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I think you put a hat on a hat
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Alright, I think I did put a hat on a hat
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The zord is all you need
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That's fair, that is fair
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Anyway, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over
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I'm going to say that this is part one of two
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Because something I intended to do, I realized
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Ah, there's a bit more here than can be
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So next Monday will be the second part of this
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Day before the 2020 election
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Kind of fitting, because what we're doing
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Is we're looking at the days prior to the 2016 election
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Ah, yes, of course
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On the Alex Jones show
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A little blind spot in our history of covering Alex
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And I actually think that I come away from this with
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A bit of a new understanding of what was going on
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I think I have a working theory that I have
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Just a lot of coke, just tons of coke
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No, it doesn't seem like anyone's on coke
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But I do think that there is a feeling that a lot of people have suggested
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Floated that I've been resistant to
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But looking at this actual time frame
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Makes me a little bit more open-minded
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And we'll get to that as we go along
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I think we'll bear that out as we do
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But like I said, we're going to be looking at
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November 4th, 5th, and 6th today
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Which is Friday, Saturday, Sunday
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And actually we're not going to look at Saturday
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Because it's mostly Owen Schroyer and Joe Biggs
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Boo!
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Right, but Alex did a very special Saturday broadcast
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So we're going to be looking mostly at Friday and Sunday
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And then part two is Monday
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And Alex was doing a 52 hour marathon on Monday
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Oh, of course he was
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That culminated in the election
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Jesus
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And we're going to be looking at the beginning stages of that on Monday
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Next Monday
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And then, okay, gotcha
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But before we get to business on this, Jordan, let's take a little moment
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Say thank you to the folks who have signed up and are supporting the show
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Oh, that's a great idea
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So first, Mark with a C
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Okay
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And then the last initial L
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thanks Mark
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Thank you
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Next, Ray B. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Ray B
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Thank you
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Next, Nate and Kate, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thanks Nate and Kate
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Thank you
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Next, Andrew P. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, Andrew
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You know what that P stands for?
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What does it stand for?
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Policy wonk
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Ah, nice
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Next, Ryan W. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Ryan
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You know what that W stands for?
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What's that?
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Wonk-a-lee-Pulse
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Yep
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Next, Melissa M. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Melissa
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Thank you
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Next, Rebecca H. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much, Rebecca
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And then finally I'd like to say thank you to a couple folks who donated on elevated levels
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We appreciate that very much
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So first, Yana B, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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And Ben Ghazi and the Buttery Males, thank you so much, you are now a policy- er, technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic, have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Yana, and thank you so much, Ben Ghazi and the Buttery Males.
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
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If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I like to support
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what these gents do, you can do that by going onto our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking
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the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it, or...
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What you could do is rekindle your friendship with generosity, invite generosity over to
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your place, eat some pizza, play some party games together, and then send that generosity
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back out into the world to a local charity or bail fund in your area.
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Fair enough.
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Thank you.
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So, Jordan, we're gonna get our toes in the water here on the 4th, November 4th, 2016.
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Alex has some big news.
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How did it go?
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The election did not go great for things that we would have wanted to happen.
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That's fair.
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Alex has some big news.
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There's a headline about the FBI, alright?
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The FBI said, quote, we believe she's the Antichrist and will destroy the world.
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If you actually go further what they said, that they believe that she wants to destroy
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the earth.
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The FBI doesn't talk like that, folks.
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I told you a month ago, I said Obama and Hillary are devil worshippers.
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The Secret Service has told me, members of the military have told me, that Obama seems
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really nice.
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And then all of a sudden you'll be walking down the hall and it's like, in fact, I didn't
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tell you half of it, okay?
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Just it's...
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These people are scared.
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I told you they're having nightmares.
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Don't be there.
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It's very dark, is the words I was told.
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And Hillary's even worse, folks, okay?
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So we were looking at earlier in 2016 and noting how little demon there was.
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No, zero demon.
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Now, by November 4th, pretty hard on the demons.
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The FBI went apocalypse on us and said that Hillary Clinton was going to end the world.
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There were documents or...
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Well, there was a London Guardian, I believe.
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A Guardian headline, maybe?
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I don't remember exactly what paper it was in, but some anonymous FBI person came out
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and said that, hey, there's a lot of people who think that she's Satan incarnate.
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Speaking metaphorically, of course.
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I would hope so.
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But Alex has now taken that as kind of literal.
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She is basically the Beelzebub walking the earth.
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Is our next investigation going to be the moment that we went from metaphorical devil
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to literal devil?
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I hope not.
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But it is interesting to me that within the span of this year, that tone does seem to
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have shifted quite a bit.
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This episode is a lot of Satan, and so by at least November 4th, 2016, that shift is
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notable.
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Yeah, that day does make sense, though.
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This is back to the worse Trump is, the worse they have to portray the enemy as.
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And we're already at the point now where Trump is so bad, the only thing worse is the literal
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Christian devil.
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Somewhat.
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I think the other thing is the popularity of the online Pizzagate stuff.
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That's true.
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And there was so much of that that dipped into the occult and the macabre.
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That's true, yeah.
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I think that that is a large portion of it, because it's kind of like, hey, get there
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how you get there.
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You know, if there's a train heading where you're going, jump on that train.
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Sure, sure.
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And if that train happens to be talking about the devil all the time, well, that's the train
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you're going to be on.
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Yeah, yeah, and that train will jump a shark eventually.
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Yep.
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And Alex talks a lot, a lot about Podesta's emails.
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Sure.
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This is who Podesta and Hillary run with.
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Podesta goes, this is in his emails, to the events, and they discuss what's on the menu.
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Placentas, flesh parts, blood, lots of blood, mainly blood.
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Then they talk in clear code about what else is on the menu.
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In the menu promo pack, it shows a child's severed head, appears to be an effigy, with
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the ground up blood being dumped on top of it, the blood and other tissues.
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There is then a ceremonial cookie made to look like a child that is black, purple blood,
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that is enjoyed.
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Now this is all in Aleister Crowley's writings.
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That's why instantly this morning when I saw it in Paul Watson's story that's up on DrudgeReport.com,
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I knew what it was.
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Ah, hey, look, it's a gingerbread man, gingerbread man, they're eating a man cookie.
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All right.
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So now we're bringing Crowley is right into our mythology.
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Well, Crowley knew what was going on.
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Crowley was not a charlatan or a liar.
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Here's how Alex would thread that needle.
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Okay.
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I'm not saying he's right, but they think he's right, and therefore we must fight them
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as if they are right.
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Okay, all right, fine.
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It's nonsense.
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So Crowley's in play is what we're doing.
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I went ahead and searched through all the Podesta emails that WikiLeaks released that
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included the word menu, and I'm not sure I came to similar conclusions that Alex did.
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For some context, the word appears 211 times in the released messages.
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The first email that comes up is between the Podesta's and Ashok and Amitra Mahbubani.
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The exchange was about planning a dinner party when the Mahbubani's, they returned from Morocco,
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and the dishes suggested were mixed grill of tandoori chicken, lamb and Lahori fish,
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garlic naan, Greek yogurt with shredded cucumber, and a lentil dish.
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Yeah, but they put children in there, that's why it's called naan.
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The next is a Georgetown Alumni Association message, which includes a bunch of different
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events, including a cooking class quote with a menu of Florentine favorites, such as Tuscan
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country soup and ravioli with shrimp and scallops.
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Ah, shrimp and children.
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The next is an email that was a briefing for Hillary about participants in an upcoming
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technology roundtable discussion.
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One of them was the founder of a startup called Munchary, which provides-
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Oh, what do they munch on?
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Well, they have daily changing menus for people to order delivery from.
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Hahaha, changing by children.
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There's one email from Kristen Gillibrand inviting Podesta to a Labor Day barbecue at
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her house with the sinister line, quote, we'll be serving all locally sourced foods from
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the Hudson Valley.
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Children are welcome.
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We have a bounce house for them to play in.
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Dun dun dun.
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What's a bounce house going for?
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Such horror.
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A bounce house is just going for a bounce house.
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They would then use the bounce house on their own.
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A number of these emails don't even have the word menu in the body of them.
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They just have links or embedded images in them, and the code to those hyperlinks includes
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the word menu.
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I didn't find anything even close to what Alex is describing, nor any mentions of this
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menu that has code words or anything.
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He's talking just about Marina Abramovic.
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He's just talking about the artist that emailed Tony and John Podesta, inviting them to a
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dinner party, and taking all of her art as if it's so literal, and they're all eating
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blood.
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Oh my god.
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How do you get there?
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How do you get there into believing that people just drink blood?
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Like, it's gross.
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Have you ever drank blood?
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I mean, I've had a bit in my lip before and I've tasted blood.
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It's all irony.
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It's terrible.
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Imagine getting a whole mouthful of blood.
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There's got to be a better way to say that than irony.
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There's tings of iron.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't put it past there being some people who do like to drink blood, because there's
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people who like to do everything.
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Yeah, that's true.
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You know, like it's a big world.
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No, that's true.
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There's a lot of people who have a lot of different interests, some people might be
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into it for a shock value kind of thing.
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Some people, you know, it takes all kinds, but to the extent that Alex is discussing
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or in the context that he's discussing, I do not believe there are demonic performance
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artists who go around and invite heads of state to come drink blood at their house.
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I don't know.
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Crowley's in play now.
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Everything is up for grabs.
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Anyway, Alex, you should listen to him about this stuff, because he's not just a dumb-dumb.
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He's actually someone, as we've heard many times, yes, who they tried to get him.
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Yeah, they tried to get him into the Satanism.
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Now I personally experienced this when I was growing up in the richest county in Texas,
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and I make that point because there were just billionaires and mansions all over the place
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out in the countryside, and it really got to be a bummer where I wouldn't get hot girlfriends
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in the town anymore because, I mean, I just thought I was super handsome getting the senior
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super beautiful girl in her fancy Bentley or Jaguar, but then I'd learn after I was
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dating her a week or so that that really wasn't the case.
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I was being recruited into Satanism.
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That sounds right.
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The way he's talking about, I mean, I know you've heard this sort of tale a number of
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times, but in the past, I've always heard the story more as like it happened once, maybe.
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Right, right, right.
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Like the catfishing with the hot cheerleader was something that Satanists tried once, but
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they tried other things to get him into the cult.
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I didn't realize the way he seems to be describing it now, it's like, he's dating some young
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lady and then, ah, damn it, not again.
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No, no, no, here's what I think I remember as far as the Satanism story, because we've
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heard multiple iterations.
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The one that I remember is that this happened when he was like 15 or so.
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He was dating this girl for about a week and then she invited him to her house.
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Giant mansion.
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All Satanism.
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Yeah.
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They're in the basement, people are chopping up whatever it is.
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Yeah, right.
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Alex talks about it in another occasion that like there were police there and he had to
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run away through the woods and then police stopped him as he was leaving, like he was
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walking home down a road and a cop stopped him.
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Right.
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Yeah, it's nonsense, it's out of a movie.
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But I also remember that I think he said that this happened also when he was like 18 too,
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and he even goes, they caught me again, I got drug back into it again, like he's the
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idiot here.
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Yeah.
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It was like, oh, I got, fool me once, shame on you.
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When it's just one time, it's a fun, childish story that's like just cribbing from a movie,
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but when I hear him like sort of express the idea that it kept happening to him, it makes
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me think more about how like we might not take a full perspective of how extreme Alex's
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religion might've been as a child.
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And he might've experienced, you know, let's say dating a woman and them having liberal
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values as them trying to seduce them to the dark side, or it could have been the way Alex
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processed shame for having sexual urges towards these women, that that is somehow evil or
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something.
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Like, I don't know, I don't know if any of that is accurate at all, but when I hear somebody
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say, like, it just kept happening to me, these girls I was dating kept trying to recruit
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me into Satanism.
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It makes me think that there's some sort of a, like, well, something kept happening to
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him.
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Something.
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Right.
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Or there's something he kept experiencing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I'm not sure what it is, but it doesn't seem like it's Satanism.
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What's the odds on Alex actually drank blood at a satanic ritual?
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I think low.
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You think low?
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Yeah.
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You don't think he actually drank blood?
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No.
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Like, not even once as a dare at one of these Satanism parties where I assume dares happen
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all the time?
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I'm gonna say I think the odds are low that he's been to a Satanism party.
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No, I've been to Satanism party, it's a truth or dare, they're like, what's your deepest
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secret?
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You're a Satanist.
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Then I'm gonna ask you this.
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Sure.
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If you're so in with a Satanist, do you know everything about it?
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I do.
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Crowley was my grandfather.
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Let me ask you the pecking order.
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Sure.
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Who's higher on the org chart, the Luciferians or Satanists?
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Luciferians or Satanists?
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Yeah.
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Right now, Satanists are a little bit ahead, but it's kind of a horse race scenario, you
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know?
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One, every ten years, you know, the Luciferians are higher, every ten years the Satanists
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are higher.
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It's a competition.
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Well.
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You know, it's work for the Luciferians if you want.
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Oh, shit.
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And again, no one else explains this cosmology the way I do.
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People say, well, I read this book, it said something different.
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Look, I know.
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Okay.
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I know.
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I reverse engineered it.
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I've studied it.
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My whole life's been basically brushing up against it over and over again like a Stephen
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King novel.
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Okay.
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It's like the Red King and the Gunslinger.
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All right.
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And you need to understand, folks, this stuff's real.
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This stuff's going on.
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And you need to understand that we're in deep crap and the people in our government aren't
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perfect but they realize Hillary gets in, she wants death and destruction.
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She basically Linda Blairs, folks.
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She rolls around the carpet spitting and snapping.
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Some of that's even come out in the news.
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She just flips out.
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She goes into trances.
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She goes into trances.
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She goes into trances.
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She Linda Blairs everyone.
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When does she have time to do all of this?
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She seems very busy.
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She's so busy.
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Yeah.
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To have like freak outs.
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There's so many public appearances.
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People are following her all day every day and she still has time to secretly do this
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stuff.
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Yeah.
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Everybody needs some self care time.
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Wow.
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That's true.
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And for some people it's a bath.
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For some people it's Linda Blaring.
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It's Linda Blaring.
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Yeah.
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I like turning that into a verb, too.
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I enjoy that.
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I would say that the reason it appears that these demons and what have you have been brushing
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up against Alex for his whole life is because he's had his brain for his whole life.
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Well, that could be.
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And he experiences a lot of things as satanic nonsense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If one out of a hundred people, or I would go even further.
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If one out of a hundred million people experiences demons on a daily basis, maybe it's not the
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hundred million people who are wrong.
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Maybe it's you.
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But this also raises the question of like, why wasn't his show always more like this?
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That's fair.
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Why is there so much more demon talk now?
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Why is that flood gate opened?
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Like was he just holding that back for years because he knew people would look at him like
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he's a zealot?
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Now it's something that he can piggyback on or was it something that he's been hiding
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the whole time?
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Right, right.
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I have no idea.
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His character seems to be one that would support either because he does seem like an extremist
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and his family does seem a little bit unstable in terms of their beliefs.
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And the influences that Alex says were around in his younger days.
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So I could see there being like a complete religious zealotry that he was hiding because
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he knew it wouldn't be profitable.
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But then at the same time, he's also a complete liar and a fraud.
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So it makes sense that he could have added that to his character at some point.
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It's very difficult to tell what's sincere and what's not.
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Yeah, and he's not kicked off of social media yet.
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Like he's still because, you know, when he's kicked off social media, you go to demons.
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Why not?
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Nobody's paying attention.
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But he's still on social and he's already at demons.
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So that kind of gets rid of that theory of like, well, once he got kicked off social
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media, all the stuff that he has been hiding, he can throw.
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I think it's probably related to WikiLeaks and the Pizzagate nonsense.
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I think that drove a lot of people insane.
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I have a theory that whether it's organic or, you know, like the organic version would
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be that he'd been holding this back and this normalizes that kind of conversation.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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And so he jumps into the water and it's like, ah, free, speak freely.
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Or if he's like, okay, this is a great way to go.
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Here's how we sensationalize things.
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This is the new editorial line.
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I think that the normalization that came from the way the Internet went nuts, I think that's
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probably what allowed him to do the demons so hard.
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So this next clip's unfortunate for Alex.
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Oh no.
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Drip, drip, drip.
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It gets worse by the day.
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We're now four days out, three and change technically, and the hammer drip now is getting
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stronger and stronger, drums, drums, boom, boom, boom, boom, like thunder cracks now.
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What are they going to do?
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A false flag?
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A new Sandy Hook?
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Launch a new war?
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What are they going to do to stop Darkheart?
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So I would say saying what are they going to do, a new Sandy Hook implies that they
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did the old Sandy Hook.
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Yeah.
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All right, Alex.
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Yeah.
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This is November 4th, 2016.
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Ooh, that's not good.
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This is way past when you were supposed to have learned the truth and apologized for
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all the pain you caused people.
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I think he was only just, I don't think he was being very sincere in that apology, Dan.
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I think that was a lie.
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So when I was listening to this, it's almost all wall-to-wall carpeting of Hillary Clinton
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as a goddamn demon.
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Sure, sure.
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I mean, that's what you would expect.
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It's a few days out.
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You got a hammer over and over.
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Not surprised.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What I'm surprised about is how thin the argument is.
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One of the big things is just Podesta's email to Abramovich being used as like, oh, everyone's
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into the devil and blood and lots of blood, lots of blood.
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And then this is the other one.
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Bill Clinton says, I practice voodoo.
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I think voodoo is wonderful.
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He wrote a book.
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Bill Clinton's book, where he talks about it and how great it is.
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I had another copy of the book here that actually said the name of the book and then I had it
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printed up.
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Oh, yes, My Life the Early Years, only page 313.
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So here's the passage from Bill Clinton's book, My Life in Full.
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I was particularly intrigued by the voodoo religion and culture to which I had some limited
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exposure in New Orleans and that existed alongside Catholicism in Haiti.
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The name of the traditional Haitian religion comes from the Faun language of Benin in West
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Africa where voodoo originated.
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It means god or spirit without the connotations of black magic and witchcraft attached to
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it in so many movies.
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Voodoo's central ritual is a dance during which spirits possess believers.
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On the most interesting day of the trip, I got a chance to observe voodoo in practice.
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The city bank contact in Port-au-Prince offered to take him, Hillary, and me to a nearby village
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to meet an unusual voodoo priest.
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Max Beauvoir had spent 15 years outside Haiti studying at the Sorbonne in Paris and working
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in New York.
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He had a beautiful blonde French wife and two bright young daughters.
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He'd been practicing chemical engineering until his voodoo priest grandfather on his
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deathbed chose Max to succeed him.
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Max was a believer and he did, though it must have been a proved a challenge for his French
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wife and westernized kids.
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We arrived in the late afternoon an hour or so before the dance ceremony, which Max opened
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to paying tourists as a way of covering some of the costs of his operation.
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He explained that in voodoo, god is manifest to humans through spirits that represent forces
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of light and darkness, good and evil, which are more or less in balance.
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After Hillary, David, and I finished our brief course in voodoo theology, we were escorted
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back to an open area and seated with other guests who had come to witness the ceremony,
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in which spirits are called forth and enter into the bodies of dancing believers.
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After several minutes of rhythmic dancing to pounding drums, the spirits arrived, seizing
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a woman and a man.
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The man proceeded to rub a burning torch all over his body and walk on hot coals without
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being burned.
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The woman in a frenzy screamed repeatedly, then grabbed a live chicken and bit its head
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off.
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Then the spirits left and those that had been possessed fell to the ground.
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I describe my brief foray into the world of voodoo because I've always been fascinated
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by the way different cultures tried to make sense of life, nature, and the virtually universal
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belief that there is a non-physical spirit force at work in the world that existed before
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humanity and will be here when we're all long gone.
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Haitian's understanding of how god is manifest in our lives is very different from that of
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most Christians, Jews, or Muslims, but their documented experiences certainly prove the
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old adage that the Lord works in mysterious ways.
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So Alex has taken this passage of an interesting foreign experience and turned it into, Bill
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admits in his book that he loves voodoo, he does it all the time, him and Hillary have
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spirits coming to possess them, it's like, this is bad, this is so flimsy.
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It doesn't surprise me that a benign admiration for another culture would be misinterpreted
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as joining the literal Christian devil to destroy life.
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But what does surprise me is that nobody has written a road trip movie about a guy who
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is a chemical engineer who all of a sudden his grandfather's like, guess what, you're
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the priest now.
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Record scratch.
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Yeah, exactly, right?
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It starts with him rubbing fire on himself and you go, I guess you're wondering how I
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got here.
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And then we start it all out, it's easy.
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It wrote itself right now.
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You've written the trailer.
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Yeah, it's good to work.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's an amazing movie.
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You finished your book and now get to work on this movie.
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Yeah, I just found this to be like, wow, you're making an hour out of this.
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Yeah.
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This is, this is pretty soft.
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Yeah, it's not good.
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I don't know, man.
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I just think that, I mean, look, if you're in Haiti and someone is like, hey, do you
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want to come see this voodoo thing that tourists can pay and go to?
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Exactly!
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Yeah.
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I don't know why you would ever say no, it'd be a very interesting experience.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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That's what I see in that Clinton book.
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Tokyo, and they give you the opportunity to see a Shinto ritual.
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You fucking go!
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Yeah.
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Why go other places if you don't experience things that are part of those places?
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That's why Alex doesn't really go other places.
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Well, he goes to the hike and bike trail.
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We're going to hear about that a little bit later.
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Of course we are!
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Yeah.
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So Alex, Alex has some inside information about how all these, these globalists, they're
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all Satanists and they all kill children.
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And this note here, just as a little warning, this show is disgusting.
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Let's just say it didn't like in your Hollywood movie where they just cut their little heart
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out.
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We have a lot of children probably listening.
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I don't know if I should tell you in Aleister Crowley, Black Magic, how they kill a three
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or four year old generally, so they can really scream for mommy and be fully conscious of
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what happens.
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Would you like me to tell you?
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What kind of liberals want to run your life?
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Would you like to know?
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Listener discretion advised.
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Listener discretion advised, I'll go ahead and tell you the standard way of doing it.
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The standard way.
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You know, maybe I don't even want to talk about it.
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Probably not.
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I agree.
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How about you don't?
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Yeah, that's a great idea.
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You already just said children are probably listening.
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Yeah, yeah.
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As we know, this is a family show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How about you cool, pump the brakes with this nonsense bullshit.
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Hey, all you nine year olds out there, you want to hear how Aleister Crowley says to
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kill three year olds?
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All right!
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Gather round.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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This is an interesting clip.
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As we know, Alex did not go to college.
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True.
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But he does know that in college, sometimes, if you want to get into one of these secret
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societies, they'll have you do things that get you in little by little until by the end
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you're in.
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Right, right, right.
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Like how Rand Paul, to join his secret society, kidnapped a woman, you know?
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And we know that he has refused to debate you.
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Absolutely.
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Day 200.
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Day a million.
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Yeah, we've forgotten.
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That lost count.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would say mic down for this, because I'd like you to consider the order of things that
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Alex has this imaginary college student engaging in.
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You know, it's kind of like in college where, oh, we have sex with a goat, then we just
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say a little satanic prayer, but it's all just to see if you'll do it.
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And then next, you're doing something different.
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Next it's sex.
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And it's not, again, attacking, quote, homosexuals, it's that we'll see, we're going to have gay
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sex now.
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And then it's, you know what, we're going to go kill a homeless person.
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I mean, this is what goes on, okay?
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Okay.
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That is not the order.
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I would say it's not.
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It shows Alex's mind, though.
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He somehow thinks that having homosexual sex is an escalation from having sex with a goat.
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Hey, fuck this goat.
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You did it.
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Wow, wouldn't expect that.
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You want to have sex with me?
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Yeah, that's very nice.
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That's great.
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All right.
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Now let's go kill a homeless person.
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I am really thrown off by you, man.
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Pick a lane.
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The sex with a goat does not seem like it would be the entry point.
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Hey, well, if you'll fuck a goat, you'll fuck me.
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Is that what he's trying to say?
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These people in this cult must have such low self-esteem.
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I know.
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They're like, whoa, whoa, I'm not ready to, you're not ready for me yet.
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You got to fuck a goat first.
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Yeah, that just shows a bit of his homophobia.
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And then also the quote, homosexuals, whatever that's hoping to convey.
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Yeah, I found that to be interesting.
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I mean, partially because Alex is just making everything up.
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So all it is is just a reflection of his own biases and his own blah.
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Yeah, he is revealing himself by lying about bullshit.
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So before the election, Alex isn't fully on board with the GOP because the GOP has not
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come on board with Trump and the growing tide towards white Christian heterosexual hegemony
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and authoritarianism.
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And so he thinks that the Republicans are kind of evil too.
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Sure.
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The Democrats tend to get into Crowley and Voodoo.
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The Republicans are into Germanic versions of this.
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It's like a Germanic mix with the very same old Eastern mysticism, mystery religion, Babylon
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stuff.
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But it's different churches of the same religion, different flavors of the same garbage.
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And now that I know so much about this 30 years later, 30 years later now, I know that
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they tried to recruit me basically into three different branches of this because there's
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other branches, too.
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I mean, folks, it runs separate cities.
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It's the real big religion of America.
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Yeah.
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So Satanism is the real religion of America.
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The Democrats are into Aleister Crowley nonsense and the Republicans are Nazis.
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Yeah.
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They're into Germanic mysticism.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The spear of destiny.
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Is that what he's going for?
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That kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would say this is stupid.
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Why?
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Everything about it.
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And it really becomes that much more stupid when you hear him try to talk in specifics.
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Like listen to this.
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Why use numbers?
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And by the way, the Democrats are far worse than Republicans.
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They are basically 90 percent taken over at the highest levels by people doing the worst
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stuff you can imagine.
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Republicans, it's about 30 percent.
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It got up to about 50 percent a few years ago, but this culling politically has really
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brought the pedophile devil worshiper number down to a 25, 30 percent right now.
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Democrats, 90 percent.
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Is that good?
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Is that good?
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Is that bad?
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Do we want more?
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Do we want less?
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We're working on our devil worshiper numbers.
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What is this?
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We've initiated some.
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What are we doing?
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We've initiated some rules and regulations in place and now we're down to one in four.
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Is there like a board meeting somewhere where they're like, oh, our Satanism numbers are
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down.
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What are we doing?
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They're like, oh, we'll try soda.
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Like what are we doing?
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I would like to know how Alex gathered these numbers.
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I'd like to know everything.
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I want to know about your methodology.
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I want to know your definitions of terms.
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How does one become part of this 25, 30 percent?
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See now I'm just, now I'm back in Mad Men and Don Draper is giving an amazing, beautiful
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speech about how we should all become Satanist pedophiles.
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Like that's what I'm seeing.
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No, what this is is Alex's way to support all right wing conservative Republican bullshit,
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but at the same time pretend that he's like, no, I'm above it.
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I'm above the fray.
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I'm willing to criticize what I would consider my team.
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I'm willing to make up numbers.
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Right?
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Here's my trick.
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I'm going to call your guy a strong man and then I'm going to call my guy a straw man
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and then I will never be anywhere except for white nationalism.
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Yep.
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So we get an interesting pop in from someone who I haven't heard for a long time because
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he's not on the show anymore.
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Basically there's lots of different celebrities that are, you know, talk about the Illuminati
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like Jay-Z and some of the other celebrities that sort of hint at it with the imagery inside
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of their videos, et cetera.
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And the question is, is this always just some sort of playful take on spiritualism and just
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kind of a jokey kind of thing that's a little bit scary and spooky like Halloween or is
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it real?
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He thinks it's real.
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I imagine he would think it's real.
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Now, do you know who that was?
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This is a game I like to play with my friends back in high school with the Wu-Tang Clan.
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Okay.
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See if they could figure out which rapper was rapping because they didn't know.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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It was fun.
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Be like, ha ha, no, that's you God.
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Is that our Kraken?
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What?
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Are we dealing with the Kraken here?
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Dan Badandi?
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Yeah.
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No.
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No.
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I don't know who it is.
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It's Buckley.
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It's Buckley.
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Cousin Buckley.
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What?
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I have not seen, I have not heard Buckley in a long time.
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Yeah, Cousin Buckley.
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What's Buckley doing around?
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I don't know.
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He's talking about the Illuminati celebrities are real serious.
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That does make sense that Buckley is like Jay-Z talked about the Illuminati.
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He thought he was joking.
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It's the devil.
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Yeah.
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Also check out these sick beats Jay-Z.
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I would like you to rap over one of these tracks.
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Buckley, get out of here.
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Buckley, come on.
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Alex rushes him out pretty fast.
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He's on for a couple minutes and then Alex calls him his top researcher.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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All right.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Then it got really strange because my cup should have runneth over.
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Because then what should happen but Alex has fucking John Rappaport come in.
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Oh, the Batman.
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Yeah, Batman's in studio.
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Which is, to me, very anomalous.
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He's in studio.
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Yeah, he's never in studio.
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Rappaport almost only does the fourth hour now.
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I very rarely, unless Alex needs a very serious pep talk, he never has Rappaport.
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It's a terrible interview.
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It's pointless.
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It's stupid.
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I couldn't even find anything that rose to the level of interest.
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Wow.
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It's just kind of like, yeah, they're demon cults.
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All right.
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Great.
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Thanks, Rappaport.
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All right.
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And then there's a pointless interview with William Binney.
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Oh, that doesn't surprise me.
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He's the former technical head of the NSA.
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Sure.
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Nothing interesting.
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Bananas.
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It's just saying that WikiLeaks got stuff from the good guys in the government as opposed
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to hackers.
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That's it.
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I mean, I don't suppose that surprises me much, though.
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Since we are so close to the election, I imagine nobody's coming up with too many big swings
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other than like, we got to do everything we can to stop Hillary from being president.
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You know?
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Like, nobody's coming up with some really good stuff.
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There is a seeming...
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Like it's focused, maybe.
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That's more what I'm getting the gist of.
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I think saying it's focused is fair, but it's focused in a strange way that's not very interesting
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and it doesn't feel ambitious.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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Listening to this, it felt a lot like people treading water.
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And that seemed weird to me, considering nowadays how Alex is screaming at bloody murder and
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like spitting out of his mouth while he yells.
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The behavior is very, very, very different.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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And you know, maybe part of it is because Alex is freaked out by the idea of people
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drinking blood.
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Well, that'll happen.
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He's not going to drink blood with John Podesta.
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I say he's drunk.
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For $80 trillion.
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$80 trillion?
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$100 trillion?
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I mean, you could not pay me $80 trillion to be around these people, to be with them,
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to drink blood with...
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And it's not that I couldn't drink blood.
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What?
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Hell, I've done the old hunter ritual.
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You know, when you're eight and shoot your first deer and drink blood hot, that's an
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ancient ritual.
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That's just about being a hunter.
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Gross one.
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Okay.
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So you've drank blood in a ritual.
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I'm pretty sure he's drank blood in a ritual, Dan.
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Almost an ancient pagan hunting ritual.
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Hey, look, I'm going to spend my entire show talking about how art that I don't understand
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proves that my enemy is demon blood rituals.
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Now, granted, I have engaged in a blood ritual when I was eight.
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So fucking arbitrary.
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What's a good ritual and a bad ritual?
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Just arbitrary bullshit.
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Yeah.
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So this next clip is fascinating because this is a classic moment from the Alex Jones show
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that I did not realize was from this November 4th episode.
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But this is a clip that will live in infamy after this point.
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Resistance to tyrants is obedience to tyrants.
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A message to Hillary.
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It's Alex Jones.
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You can run on for a long time.
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When I think about all the children Hillary Clinton has personally murdered and chopped
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up and raped, I have zero fear standing up against her.
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Yeah.
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You heard me right.
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Hillary Clinton has personally murdered children.
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Go tell that long tongue liar.
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I just can't roll back the truth anymore.
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Hillary Clinton is one of the most vicious serial killers the planet's ever seen.
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Now, there's a twist to that.
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Am I talking about the devil worship story with her chief of staff or campaign chairman
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looking at the menu of blood and semen and body parts at the Aleister Crowley event?
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The private event?
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Oh, no.
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I'm not talking about that.
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I mean 200,000 plus dead Christians with her operation with Syria and her operation in
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Libya and not letting the Christians get out and directing Al Qaeda and ISIS who target
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and murder children and put them through sex slavery and throw Catholic priests off cliffs
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and kill people in mass and murder gays and everything else you can imagine because they
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don't like peaceful people.
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So that is a classic clip from Alex that he will later use a ton because people in the
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news and I believe even maybe the Megyn Kelly interview took the clip of him saying that
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Hillary Clinton personally has killed all of these children and he's like, it took me
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out of context.
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Well, to be fair, you spoke poorly.
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Your context is clear within the confines of a sentence.
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Well it's two different thoughts that don't work because if you want to critique Hillary's
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foreign policy and decisions that were made while she was at the State Department and
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how that had ramifications that are not good and do deserve a critique, fine.
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Now I understand that Alex thinks that he's just sensationalizing it by saying or trying
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to get attention by saying she's personally killed all these people.
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But that's an incorrect statement.
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You're oversensationalizing it in a way that is only meant kind of to bait people into
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pointing out that you're an asshole.
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He got what he wanted out of that, that was a great clip for him.
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You could say that Hillary's responsible for a bunch of deaths or something like that.
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You could get around the rhetorical move he's trying to make, he just did it really poorly.
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Did he?
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Yes.
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I feel like he did exactly what he wanted to do.
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Yes.
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But if you are somebody who actually understands how language works, he did this move poorly.
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Oh, oh yeah.
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If what he was trying to say, if we are measuring the ability he had when saying what it was
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he ostensibly tried to say, he did a bad job.
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If we look at somebody who realizes that nobody's going to come after him for it, and gets to
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say whatever he wants, and hopefully will go viral with it, he did exactly the best
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job.
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Yeah, the goal is attention and trolling people, and he succeeded in that.
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I didn't realize that was on this episode, when I heard that I was like, I'll be damned.
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I've heard this a bunch of times.
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So Alex is another guest on, and it's Doug Hagman, one of your favorites.
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Doug Hagman.
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Love the hag, Dougman.
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He's a guy who Alex, it turns out, didn't like for a while.
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Doug Hagman, I've been hearing him for 15 years on Coast to Coast AM.
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First five, I thought, that guy is too radical, a lot of what he says I know is accurate,
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a lot of it just is too much.
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He said they were going to bring in massive Muslims at some point, set up a caliphate.
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First guy I heard say it, he said they were going to use it for strategy attention.
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He said a lot of things, and then about 10 years ago I started going, man, that all came
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true.
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And then more of it came true.
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What?
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When?
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When?
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And then I learned from some of my sources.
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Are we a caliphate?
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The former Secret Service.
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Did that already happen?
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NYPD.
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Now one of those is Bongino, but he doesn't give us any secret stuff.
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Ooh, you just outed Bongino.
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Take that, Bongino.
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Take that, you shit bag.
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You guys are really fast and loose with your sources.
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Did not realize we were already a caliphate.
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Yeah, yeah, it turns out.
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And Hagman was way ahead of the curve on that.
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He was way ahead of the curve on that.
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Yep.
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So this has to do with the Wiener's laptop.
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They're talking about how the New York FBI forced Comey to come out and reopen the investigation
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into Clinton's emails, because if he didn't do that, then they were going to have a press
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conference where they're going to reveal everything that was on Wiener's laptop.
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So Comey did that, and then later when Comey comes out and says, you know, everything,
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it's closed, the investigation's closed, Alex doesn't really have a great answer for that.
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But Doug Hagman, he had a source that had said that they were going to do this.
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That they were going to have a press conference.
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And so that's why he's on, to sort of gloat about being right.
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And this doesn't go great.
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But before Hagman gets in to the show proper, Alex has to do what he does best, and that
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is fake crying.
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Let me tell you something.
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When you're with Secret Service agents and they're senior, and then those are smart,
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pretty tough, smart guys, you know, and then they've got the archetype and everything of
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the suit and they're, you know, their eyes right on you and you can tell they're not
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and they're like, she's really dangerous.
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We're all really scared.
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And we can't tell everything.
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But just you're right about all God save America, and they start getting a tear in their eye.
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You're like, well, what is it?
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They go, it's bad.
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They hurt children, folks.
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I thought he was doing an impression of a crying Secret Service person.
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I did too.
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He's not.
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No, that's bad.
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Yeah.
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I don't buy that for a second.
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No, very.
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I genuinely, yeah.
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I thought it was fake.
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Nope.
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Yeah.
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I thought it was purposefully fake.
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It's not purposefully fake because he starts talking more and it has the lingering of the
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crying.
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Oh, that's not good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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In present day, I know we've heard Alex talk a lot pretty regularly about the possibility
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that we all deserve for the earth to be destroyed.
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Totally.
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Because we're bad.
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Oh, on a bad day.
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He's on the globalist team.
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Yeah.
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It turns out he might, this might be year four of him.
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Maybe we deserve a nuclear war that they're trying to give us.
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Maybe that's what we let devil worshipers in.
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Maybe we're meant to get everybody to die.
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You know what?
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At least they won't be able to torture little kids to death anymore.
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At least they'll all just get killed by hydrogen bombs instead of Hillary leaning over them.
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Man, a damn dark room.
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You imagine that?
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How about having that witch march in there with your toddler they fished out of your
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backyard?
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How's that sound?
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Not good.
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I, I do think that it's interesting that, uh, you know, Alex is a silver linings guy.
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He is a silver linings guy.
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Maybe no one will, you know, they won't, he's got a point.
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If everyone dies, there will be no more murder.
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Sure.
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Great.
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So Doug Hagman comes in and uh, he wants to talk about the codes in the email.
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I would like to talk about, I want to hear about the codes.
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There is a subtext or coding to some of the emails that Podesta and others have, uh, including
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Hillary and whom I have been engaged in.
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For example, um, pizza party, I'll just leave this out there.
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Pizza party.
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That's not exactly what it means.
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You know, don't bring a, you know, don't bring your favorite video over for a pizza night.
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A pizza party is something has sexual connotations and that's why they say stuff like there'll
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be semen.
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There'll be, there'll be, uh, you know, this and that.
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There'll be blood, lots of blood, blood even means something.
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No, exactly.
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It does.
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I mean, you could go to, uh, yeah.
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What's to use?
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Lots of blood.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't, yes.
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Why would you use blood as the code?
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Why would blood be a code word?
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That's a terrible idea.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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All right.
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Now ultimately the plan is to drink blood.
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So what we're going to do is use blood as code for the blood.
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What's your safe word?
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Safe.
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They'll never catch on to the fact that we want blood.
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Oh boy.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Who's bringing videos over for a pizza party?
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I mean, is that a thing?
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I mean, if you're a, I don't know, maybe you got a screener.
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I understand it's 2016, but we're not back in VHS times.
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I think that the idea of some of these parties are like dinner parties with like a couple
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couples.
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Sure.
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So maybe you're coming over and someone has an actual like a hot pizza oven, like a brick
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oven.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So you get together and you make a pizza and then maybe while the pizza's cooking or something,
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you have a video.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You put Con Air on.
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Sure.
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And then maybe a screener, maybe you have an advanced copy of something cause you're
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rich.
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This is a big Hollywood party.
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Right.
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That's what we're dealing with here.
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Or you're just rich.
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You're powerful.
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You can just be rich.
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You got advanced things.
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So bring over some movie that the, uh, the dumb commoners can't watch yet.
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Oh, that's fair.
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They've got Iron Man 7.
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Is Doug Hagman on that bringing videos over Iron Man 7 trip?
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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So anyway, uh, Hagman's got a source for his information.
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Okay.
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I'm miked down for this cause this is fucking hilarious.
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Clearly, I just wanted to make it clear that this, this source is within the, uh, uh, orbit
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of the F or the NYPD FBI investigation on the ground in New York, New York city and
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Westchester County as well.
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Um, well, specifically New York city, uh, boy, I shouldn't have said that, uh, but there's
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an investigation going on.
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That's, what are you doing?
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What is, what is happening?
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Oh, I shouldn't have said that.
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Whoopsie doodle.
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I'm a professional.
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Oh man.
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I'll tell you what, would you accidentally possibly reveal too much information about
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your source on a national syndicated radio show?
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Probably best not to highlight it by saying, shouldn't have said that.
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Yeah.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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Rudy Giuliani shouldn't have said that.
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Whoopsie doodle.
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Oops.
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My bad.
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Fuck.
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He's, he's laundering bullshit towards me.
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And now here we are.
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Oh, what an asshole.
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Yup.
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Um, I don't know.
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Um, this next clip I think is something that needs a citation, uh, from, uh, Hagman.
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Here we go.
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And by the way, there will be at least six, if not eight or more verified trips, uh, by
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Hillary and by Huma on the Lolita express.
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Of course you talked about that.
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Oh wait, Prince is saying that too.
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And I mean, folks, you know, it's like the, the, the, the crossroads when Eric Prince
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appears out of nowhere with this information.
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You're supposed to hate him.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Um, I understand, but there's only one Prince.
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All right.
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You don't get to refer to Eric Prince by his last name.
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There's one Prince.
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If you say Prince, you know who we're talking about.
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The mercenary formerly known as Eric Prince.
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Do not tell me about Eric Prince.
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Uh, yeah.
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Also, I'm waiting on information about these trips that Huma and Hillary took on the Lolita
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express.
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Why did they take those trips?
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Go ahead and provide that documentation whenever you're ready.
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Where were they going?
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Who cares?
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Yeah.
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The stone is on.
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Of course he is.
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This is a star-studded show here on November 4th.
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I'm seeing that.
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You had Rappaport.
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This is all one show?
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I thought we were on two days.
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No, this is all one.
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We are, but we haven't gotten to the sixth yet.
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Oh man.
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You had Rappaport.
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You had Buckley.
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You had, uh, uh, uh, William Binney.
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You had Doug Hagman.
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Now you got Roger.
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He was supposed to have Steve, but his phone didn't work.
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Call old man house phone.
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I got very excited because, uh, we, I got teased with a Steve Pechenik appearance and
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did not materialize, but you got Roger.
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All right.
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This is a very boring interview, quite frankly, but there is one thing that Roger says, uh,
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that I found very interesting.
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Am I wrong?
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I mean, he's ahead in all the battleground states, even in polls that oversample and
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it looks like landslide for Trump.
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Uh, as Ronald Reagan would say, I am cautiously optimistic.
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Bigger win than Reagan had or, or, or, or, or they steal it even if you, I mean, maybe
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give her all 50 states hell.
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I am cautiously optimistic and Trump's in good spirits in excellent spirits.
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Never heard him happier.
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All right.
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Roger Stone.
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We'll talk to you soon.
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Thank you.
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My friend.
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Many times that tone is very fucked up different.
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We're stealing this election.
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I am very cautiously optimistic about the theft that is about to take place.
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It's it's really, it's really weird.
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I don't, I don't know if I heard it the same way you're hearing it.
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I heard it as we have no expectation that we're going to win this.
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I heard it as the voting machines in Georgia are definitely going to work this time.
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I get, I get where you're coming from on that.
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I think it's the other way around.
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I think it's, we get to talk about the voting machines not working after we lose.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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That, that's how it feels more to me.
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It doesn't feel like any of them are really have an expectation that Trump is going to
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win.
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It really feels like they're all getting ready for Hillary.
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Yeah, they are all, but yeah, so is everybody.
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Right.
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We were all ready for it.
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I don't hear much talk about Trump at all on this November 4th episode.
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It's almost all about how Podesta and Hillary are evil, they're demons, if they get in,
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it's over.
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And I grant that that's still, you know, I guess electioneering for Trump given that
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Hillary is her candidate, his opponent, but like still there's not like nearly the quantity
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of Trump is our savior, you know, he's standing up like blah, blah, blah.
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There's little flickers of it, but not nearly as much as you might expect days before the
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2016 election.
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It's mostly about how bad Hillary is, and to me, it feels like we're getting ready for
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next season, because it doesn't feel like the end of the world if Trump loses.
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There's talk of like Trump could lose, there's talk of like, you know, it's not like well
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if Trump loses it's time to gun everyone down, like granted there's still talk of like Satanism,
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but it's almost in a way that's like productive for Alex to yell about later.
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It really, I have had a very strong reluctance to agree with people who think like Alex wanted
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Hillary to win.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But if I go back and I listen to this episode in particular, and I don't know, we'll see
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what happens on the later episodes, but it does not feel like he's fully needing Trump
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to win the way he does now.
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It is funny that our situation is so warped that Alex being like, Hillary Clinton is a
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pedophile murderer who's the devil, and we're like, he's kind of ambivalent about this election.
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My note is he seems weirdly chill.
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Yeah, it's not weird how that's where we're at, he's only calling her a pedophile demon.
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That's borderline nothing.
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Yeah, it's the phenomenon that I had is like the background is support for Trump as opposed
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to foreground.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like this is about building up a villain for your next pay-per-view or whatever.
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Like it's not, I don't know, it was definitely not what I expected.
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I wonder if there's going to be, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some like serious
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historical work that was like Hillary Clinton is literally the only politician that could
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have ever lost an election to Donald Trump.
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You know?
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That's a really fascinating...
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I think you could probably come up with a couple others.
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I imagine...
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Timothy McVeigh.
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Sure.
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Well, he would probably defeat Trump.
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I think you could probably come up with thousands of people that could lose.
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No, I understand.
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I agree that I think of leading, let's say, possible Democrat candidates, she would be
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probably of few that would, who could be realistic candidates.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They would have lost.
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And I mean, a lot of that is not necessarily her fault.
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No, no, no, no.
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A lot of it is just based on, you know, shit Larry Nichols did.
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Yeah, I think that's the thing that they, it's like, it's not that they just got the
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propaganda train rolling on her in 2015 or whatever.
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That's been going on for 30 years by that point, you know?
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It's longer if you lived in Arkansas.
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Yeah, and you kind of, I think if you're a political strategist, you think like, well,
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yes, there is that.
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Right.
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But I mean, that's been going on forever.
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People are over it.
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Yeah.
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And most people know it's nonsense.
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A lot of this is debunked entirely.
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Totally.
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And unfortunately, it appears that might be a miscalculation.
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Democrats never fail to overestimate the American electorate.
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I might've, I might've agreed that these sorts of propaganda campaigns that have existed
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over decades, that they wouldn't be as potent or as meaningful.
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But no, it's very easy to look back and say, now look at those idiots making that choice.
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But at the time we were all like, yeah, there's no way Bernie's going to beat her.
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She's the, it's just going to happen.
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And I would have said like, nobody is going to care about like Vince Foster shit.
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No shit.
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Turns out you fool.
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So Steve was supposed to be on, but he's not.
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And so Alex has to fill some time and he decides to do that by making fun of a goth he saw.
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Okay.
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But two months ago I was on the hike and bike trail for security reasons.
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Now I always bring somebody with me and we're always locked and loaded as well.
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Quite frankly, my hand inside baseball, but goes on around here, but it's, it's gotten
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to be a little bit serious in the ball game at this point.
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And I'm like a hundred yards away and I saw these really super white looking people in
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black.
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It looks really crazy.
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I'm like, man, I got a bad, I could feel them.
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And as I got up close to them, they all had like pentagram necklaces that were super white
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and weak.
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There was the old woman and the younger woman and the man, there was, they passed me.
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They're going up the Hill.
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I was going down the Hill and I was like, I sensed them 150 yards away.
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Like I was like, like the more you get into this stuff fighting and you're like, and I,
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they were so weak, they think they're powerful.
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They're totally turned over to evil.
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And they're like, they're the most pathetic people.
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They might just be some metal fan.
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He's just, did he just discover Goths?
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Is that what just happened?
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Alex's life is so boring that two months ago he saw some Goths on the hike and bike trail.
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Just stayed with him.
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Yeah.
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And now he's telling it as some kind of a story where he could sense them.
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Jesus.
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I can feel, I can feel pale people in the, in the wind.
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Oh, what's this?
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah.
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I would have preferred if he did Paul F. Tompkins joke from his first album.
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I saw a Goth running and I leaned out the window of the car and went, Hey, where's the
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funeral?
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Like that's, that's all I want.
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That's as bad as it could be.
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Well that's direct bullying.
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This is just Alex bullying somebody on a fucking show months later.
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At least those Goths will never know.
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That Paul F. Tompkins immortalized them?
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No.
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Oh no, the other one.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So we did the last clip here from November 4th and it's Alex explaining why God allows
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us humans to exist.
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It's an interesting theological point that he makes that I disagree with.
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And so that's why God allows us to exist.
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Murder hornet.
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So that we can really get a bird's eye view on where evil leads because you got to actually
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experience it.
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You can't for eternity.
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That's not what a bird's eye view means.
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There's new souls, new creatures, new free entities God's created.
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Just sit here and be told about evil.
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You have to experience it at point blank range.
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You have to live it.
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You have to see it.
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You have to breathe it.
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You have to be tortured by it so that you will always have a spiritual memory of just
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how nasty this is so that you've chosen which side you want to be on.
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Not with her.
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Never with this.
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Never.
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Never.
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Never with these people.
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Forever.
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All that matters is we're not with her.
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That's why she says with her, with her, with the harlot, with the death, with the pain,
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with the failure, with the ugliness, with Satan, with her, with her, with her.
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No.
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Not with you.
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Never.
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Alex is mad about Hillary's slogan.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I would say that if we are our ancestors, then we should have all of their spiritual
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memories too.
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And I guess if evil has ever been experienced in human history, then we would all have our
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ancestors' spiritual memories of that evil viscerally so we wouldn't need to re-experience
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it over and over again.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I don't know.
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I think this is all stupid and I disagree with it.
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You know, Dan, a lot of people say, I know that I shouldn't jump off the bridge.
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But I'm telling you right now, you can't know that it's a bad idea unless you jump, unless
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you breathe jumping off that bridge, unless you eat jumping off that bridge, unless the
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Lord himself tells you that jumping off that bridge is a bad thing.
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And that's why you gotta jump off the bridge.
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You can't know that evil is bad unless you jump off that bridge, Dan.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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I just, I don't know.
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This is thin.
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That's very stupid.
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So we get to the sixth.
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Like I said, the fifth is not worthwhile.
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I got really excited because Alex said that he was doing a Saturday show and it's just
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talking about how Bill Clinton said that he likes voodoo.
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Okay.
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And then Owen Troyer, young Owen Troyer, and the pre-firing Rambo Joe Biggs get together
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and just complain about stuff and it's not worth it.
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How's Billy Weaver doing?
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She's, I don't know.
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I don't know if she's there.
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Is she around then?
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Maybe.
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Alex said that he started working with her years ago.
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Well, we did Rainbow Snatch in our first year, so she was there by 2017 at least.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if she was a big figure.
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Yeah.
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And McAdoo is still there.
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Sure, sure.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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There's a, we'll see.
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I mean, cause you know, on Monday, next Monday, our episode will be about that marathon.
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Sure.
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And if Millie's there, you better believe she's going to be somewhere in there.
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Oh, yeah.
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All hands on deck.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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52 hours.
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Yeah.
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You're going to be there.
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We're going to see Rainbow Snatch for four of those.
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Yeah.
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So we get a move past Saturday.
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It's nothing.
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And Sunday comes along and here is Alex really, really basking in how much traffic he's getting.
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A lot of people are liking his shit.
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One video, 837,000 views on YouTube, 200,000 on our internal streams, 400 plus thousand
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people.
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How many millions is that?
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Two and a half million or so.
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We have two and a half million viewers last night, separate from even my terrestrial radio
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show.
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If you go to Hillary's Facebook mentions, cause only quote celebrities get them.
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It's not the Facebook live thing.
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It's Facebook mentions.
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So we're celebrities, so we get one.
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When you go to hers right now, guess how many watched today live with LeBron James through
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now?
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Cause it counts live and then afterwards.
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The watch, the archive 5,500 as of 12 minutes ago before I went live.
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I don't care.
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I don't, I don't, I, I've got more viewers than Hillary.
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That's petty.
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Yes.
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That's very, very petty.
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Yes, it is unprofessional perhaps.
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So Roger's back on Sunday and uh, he's on because he's gloating about winning a court
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case.
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Well, Alex, I'm delighted to be with you.
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It's nice to get off the telephone cause I've been in an endless round of conference calls
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with lawyers and I don't particularly like lawyers anyway.
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But the breaking news is that the ruling against Donald Trump, Roger Stone, the Republican
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national committee, the Trump campaign, uh, and stop the steal.org was overturned by the
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appeals court in Ohio late this afternoon.
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There is no evidence of any plan on our part to threaten or intimidate voters in any way.
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This is a great example of how crazy the last four years have been.
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I had completely forgotten that right before the election, Roger Stone was involved in
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a lawsuit where he was accused of engaging in voter intimidation due to his work with
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the super PAC called stop the steel completely forgot that as well.
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On its own.
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This story is massive, but taken as a part of the chaos that was going on, it just faded
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into the background.
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Roger was running stop the steel as a nonprofit that was set up to conduct exit polls in cities
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which had according to the Huffington post quote high minority populations.
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Can you exit poll with extreme prejudice?
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The group was really nothing more than a website where people could register as volunteer poll
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watchers who would go to the polls, presumably talk to voters and then enter the information
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they gathered onto this website.
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The argument was that any election that was more than 2% off from exit polling should
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be considered suspicious.
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So what this group was intending to do is create completely nonsensical, non-scientific
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exit poll data to yell about after Hillary won.
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That's what the scam was here.
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The goal was to create a narrative on the back of meaningless information that you've
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created yourself.
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Roger even said that the plan was to gather information to use as a challenge to the election
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in the case that his data didn't match what was coming in.
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But that's nonsense.
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Even if his data wasn't completely unverifiable and wasn't biased as hell and complete trash,
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he couldn't use it as a basis to challenge the election.
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The only real outcome of this is to create something to rile up your followers after
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you lose.
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This is a loser's strategy, not a path towards winning.
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The Huffington Post article on this is hilarious, and the part about Stop the Steal's website
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is a personal favorite of mine.
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Quote, any registered volunteer could sit at home and start entering false information
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today.
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HuffPost entered five votes Wednesday for Green Party nominee Jill Stein, a vote each
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for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, and two
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votes for GOP nominee Trump.
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In looking into it, they just entered false data.
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They just tossed it in bullshit.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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Roger was almost certainly using the Super PAC as a way to move money around, as Mother
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Jones reported in 2018 that Stop the Steal strangely paid approximately $5,000 in consulting
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fees to the mother of Stone associate Kristin Davis, the Manhattan madam.
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The mother has no experience in politics or elections, so this seems weird.
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According to Mother Jones, quote, in a text message, Stone said he was too busy to answer
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stupid questions like this.
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He did not respond for the questions.
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That sounds right.
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All this is super weird, because after he got sued over this group, he claimed, quote,
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I did not establish Stop the Steal.
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I do not control its bank account or in any way manage its affairs.
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Hard to square that with payments to his friend's mom, who has no business consulting for the
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PAC, and also payments to other of Roger's associates.
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It was people doing impressions of him online, dude.
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It was all impressions of him.
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You didn't even see him.
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Just before the election, Stop the Steal sent out new directions to their volunteers that
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made it clear that they cannot do things that violate voting rights law.
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For instance, you can't enter a polling place except to vote.
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You can't speak to anyone within 100 feet of the entrance to a polling place.
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You can't record anyone.
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You can't talk to anyone about anything before they vote.
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These rules all basically fly in the face of the blustery talk that was coming out of
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the group before this, and it kind of feels like a cover your ass kind of thing.
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They'd riled up everybody about the need to protect the polls, so it doesn't matter if
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you send out an email that's all like, control yourself the day before the election.
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The desired effect has been done, and then you can say that you're trying to get everyone
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to follow voting laws, but how can you possibly be held responsible for the actions of these
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volunteers?
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You sent out an email telling them to follow the rules.
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We've spent two months describing all of the things that they shouldn't do in repeated
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angry tones of voice.
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If they misunderstood that to mean those are the things that they should do, I've got nothing
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to do with that, I sent out an email.
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It appears to me that this is exactly what it appears to be.
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It looks like an entity that was used to direct money to associates while also hopefully suppressing
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some of the vote and possibly creating chaos at polling places.
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The ultimate payoff however is just the creation of a meaningless data that you can pretend
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is credible that proves that even though Hillary won the election, your guy secretly won.
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This is a long con type of thing where you're protecting your grift for the next stage.
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This is not the action of somebody who's intending to win.
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Because even if Roger was using this as a strategy to help Trump, you couldn't.
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Even if he got the best data possible, all you'd get is blog posts out of this.
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This would not work in court, this would not sway anyone's opinion in a legal framework
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about the validity of the election.
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These exit polling data is useless except as a means of making more propaganda.
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Yeah, of a narrative.
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And the propaganda is only useful if Trump loses.
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Right.
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You wouldn't go through all this trouble unless you're looking for a way to after the fact
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dismiss the claims that you're a loser.
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Sure, I mean I would also probably argue that if you're setting up a super PAC to move money
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around in hidden ways.
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That's just sort of a side suspicion.
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I'm not entirely sure if that's like 100% what was going on.
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See I kind of think of it in the almost reverse there where it's like he's setting up a thing
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to move money around and he's like well we have to have a reason for the thing to exist
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so this is fine.
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Maybe the madam, her mother, was like stuffing envelopes and they called it consultation.
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Maybe it's not sketchy.
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Sure.
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I don't know.
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Sure.
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I imagine Stone is just really taking care of, you know, he threw her that little bone
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she's on a fixed income.
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Could be.
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It has nothing to do with that Manhattan madam stuff.
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Well I mean Kristin Davis and him are friends.
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They're longtime associates.
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I understand.
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But like the thing that I just can't get around is like thinking of how this would be something
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you would do if you were looking for productive ways to help Trump win or try to protect the
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win after a potentially contested election.
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This would do nothing.
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This is pointless except as a PR kind of strategy.
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Totally.
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And to me that is an indication of something kind of strange and also he's not doing that
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this time.
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No.
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Roger's not doing that this time.
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No, they have regular illegal poll watchers now.
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But if Roger thought that there was some kind of like a real need for this thing that he
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did last time.
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Sure, sure.
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Like if there is a real concern about the polls you'd think that he would be trying
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some of the same things and he's not because I think he wants Trump to win this time whereas
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I'm not positive these people actually even want Trump to win.
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I'm starting to come around to the conclusion that these people are expecting a loss and
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they're bracing for a loss and a way for their business to move forward after that.
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That's kind of the way all of this feels.
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And one of the reasons that I believe that or I'm starting to feel that way is because
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Alex is declaring victory no matter what happens in the 2016 election.
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Sure.
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Which he's doing now.
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Yes.
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But in 2020 he's saying that either Trump is going to win or Biden's going to win and
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it's going to be stolen and Trump actually won.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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The way Alex is declaring victory no matter what is different in 2016.
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Donald Trump, whether he wins or loses this election, no matter what comes out of it,
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he was a total winner.
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He had courage.
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You've had courage.
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You've taken action.
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Globalism is on the table as a crony capitalist, anti-free market mafia system.
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The fact that the Federal Reserve is screwing us over is huge.
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The fact that our borders are being resolved, political correctness is in tatters.
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This is a guy who's making the argument that even if Hillary ends up winning, which of
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course there will be shenanigans if she cheated, but whatever.
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Even if she wins, we win because of moralism has been put on the table.
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We're discussing these things now.
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Trump has been such a dick and so rude that political correctness is gone.
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This is someone who's trying to look for the silver lining of Trump losing.
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It feels like that very strongly as I go back and I look at this, and maybe it's the juxtaposition
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of how out of control and desperate he seems for Trump to win now.
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I don't know.
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It's very different than I expected.
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I expected to hear a lot more really desperate screaming, a lot of pleading almost.
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And I hear barely covered resignation and a desperate attempt to turn Hillary Clinton
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into the greatest villain, which is pointless if Hillary loses.
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All of this stuff.
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I mean, we're seeing how pointless it is now, seeing as how they're still trying to run
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against Hillary and nobody's buying that bullshit anymore.
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All of the behaviors that are going on make total sense.
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If you're gearing up for the next election against Hillary, again.
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Or if you're looking for four more years of fighting against Hillary, it doesn't make
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a ton of sense if you think that you're going to have to deal with Trump for the long term.
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Trump works really well with the way that they're playing this as a prop that goes away,
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like a Ron Paul run or whatever.
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It doesn't make sense to me.
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And I know that I'm jumping to conclusions a little bit based on not a full data set.
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I am just looking at a couple days worth of his show.
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But it is the overwhelming sense that I get that he doesn't expect Trump to win.
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Yeah, I mean, I imagine that makes sense though, because at this time we've spent six months
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being repeatedly hammered with 538 back when everybody thought that was a great thing that
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gave Biden like an 85 percent or Hillary like a 75 percent chance of winning.
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So like over and over again, every day, they're forced to like, there's only the betting money
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says our guy's going to lose, you know?
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And now, even though we're dealing with the same type of poll, no, totally, but secret
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poll, I think he does secret poll.
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They all do, back whenever life was reasonable, at least.
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Alex doesn't understand how polls work.
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He doesn't understand statistics at all, sampling sizes and stuff.
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But he understands betting.
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I don't know if he does.
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Barnes does.
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That's true.
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Barnes won a lot of money on the election.
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That's fair.
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So Roger has a prediction that did not come to pass.
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I presume that in the period between the election and the inauguration, Obama will probably
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pardon everybody who's been involved in this sordid mess.
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Nope, that didn't happen.
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So I imagine that if Trump loses between now and the inauguration, Trump will pardon everybody
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who's committed a crime ever.
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I think we might all get a clean slate.
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So Roger has a little bit of a bone to pick here.
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What had happened just before this episode was that Trump had had a rally, someone yelled
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gun in the audience, and Secret Service came and surrounded Trump.
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I watched that video, Trump looks very confused.
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He does not seem stoic.
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Alex will say that he's very stoic.
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Strong man, ready to fight.
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Now, some people might have been suggesting at that point that this was staged in order
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to get sympathy for Trump, and Roger does not care for this.
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Let's talk the scare last night, briefly, out in Nevada.
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I mean, now we know it's a Democratic Party operative that was there to bird-dog.
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What is the point of screaming gun, gun, and then running at Trump just to make him look
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weak or something?
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Well, what I found particularly aggravating, Alex, and I was on with Joe Biggs last night
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on InfoWars to talk about this, is within seconds of this happening, we counted over
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400 tweets blaming me, Roger Stone staged this to gain sympathy for Donald Trump.
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This is some serious Alice in Wonderland stuff.
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Now, in the present day, you have Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, who was
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the subject of a kidnapping plot that Alex says was done to get sympathy for her, which
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is Alice in Wonderland stuff, according to Roger.
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Also, the other thing that I find incredibly fascinating about this is that when it's Trump,
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the plot is Democrats doing it to make him look weak.
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That's the conspiracy.
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Correct.
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When it's Whitmer, it's, I don't know, the intelligence agency's doing this to get her
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sympathy.
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Yeah.
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It's very weird.
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Democrats are really good at false flags.
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We can turn them into whatever we want.
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I guess.
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That's what we do, right, Dan?
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Or we false flag everybody.
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Or it's just Alex makes all this shit up, and whenever he needs to paint someone as
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a villain or a hero, he does it in slightly different ways.
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Well, that could be, too, I suppose.
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I think Roger specifically pointing out that there were 400 tweets within seconds makes
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me feel like he did do it.
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Roger being like, in seconds after this happened, 400 tweets came out, and they were the ones
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who knew what I did.
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Or I run 400 Twitter accounts.
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And I was trying to false flag to get some sympathy for myself.
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So apparently Trump is pretty fatalistic.
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This gets Alex really excited.
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Stone's got to leave in a minute, but I wanted him to get to this, because he's told me stuff
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that I later saw come out, or other people told me.
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And the fact was, a couple years ago, Trump wasn't going to run.
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He knew what would happen to him, but he just finally said, okay, I'll just sign my life
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over.
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It doesn't matter.
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And his wife backed him on it, and he expects to probably be killed.
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And Stone just let it slip, so I brought it up, of how committed Trump is.
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So this is Steve's stuff.
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This is all Steve's, I recruited Trump to run with this group of good guys and the intelligence
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stuff, which was one of the reasons why I was excited to hear that Steve was going to
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be on.
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And then when he didn't show up, I got kind of sad, because I wanted to hear some more
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of that stuff.
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I wanted to swing, yeah.
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But yeah, so Roger says that Trump is very fatalistic about this.
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Like Alex is like, oh, let's get some inside baseball shit going.
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And so they start talking about how he doesn't even wear a bulletproof vest, man.
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No, but you said it.
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Let's talk about, you said fatalistic.
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Let's get down to the wire that they can't even make him wear a bulletproof vest.
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He just doesn't even care.
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This is so presidential.
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Well, he wore one in the summertime.
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It frankly was so damn hot and heavy that he felt it was slowing down his performance
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on the stump.
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His family has begged him to take more security precautions.
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Yeah, let's not let out security secrets.
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That's an example.
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He just doesn't care, folks.
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That is so manly.
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You called him fatalistic.
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Go ahead and tell folks since you've mentioned it.
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Well, in other words, I've said to him, don't you worry about your physical safety?
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And he says, look, I have to do this.
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I have to do this for the country.
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You can't run for president and not mix with the people.
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He is the opposite of that coward demon, Hillary, isn't he?
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I love that Alex is trying to do this like, oh, he's so manly, he won't wear a bulletproof
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vest.
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And Roger's like, well, it was just kind of hot.
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It was hot.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to move around in it.
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It was good.
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It was unflattering to his figure.
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Yeah, not very, not very strong man to just wither under the heat.
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So manly.
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So strong.
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Yeah.
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Alex is trying to push this now, this Trump is ready to die for the country, which is
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not at all foremost, it is not at the front of Alex's reporting and it's, it's coming
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in a tiny bit here, but it's weird.
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It's not, yeah, they're not fully committed to this as something that is being discussed
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a lot.
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Man.
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You know, for somebody who believes that Hillary Clinton is working for the literal Christian
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devil in 2016, you would think he would be far more insistent that everyone get out and
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vote and not very kind of like, ah, he's probably not going to win.
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No, I mean, like, don't get me wrong, don't get me wrong.
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They are saying you should vote for Trump, totally, totally.
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But the literal Christian devil kind of voting, you know, it's almost entirely vote against
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Hillary.
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Yeah.
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Intel this, like this little stretch with Roger where Alex is excited about the idea
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that Trump doesn't wear a bulletproof vest and he's ready to die or whatever.
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And I think largely that's just motivated by the conversation about what happened at
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the rally the night before.
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Like it's, it's very little positive about Trump as much as it is supremely negative
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about Hillary.
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Man.
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Yeah.
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How did we go from there to Trump is God King?
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Yeah, it's weird.
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All it takes to make the hard right love you so much that they want you to be king is for
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you to piss off the libs.
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That's it?
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I guess.
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That's bad.
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So Roger's gone and now Alex continues with a little bit more talking about how great
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Trump is.
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But again, it's not, it's not the biggest deal.
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High level groups have come to Trump and they know he's ahead and they've said, just work
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with us and we will let you win.
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He said, I serve the American people.
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This happened yesterday.
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Sure.
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It did yesterday.
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The level I'm at, if you knew how real this was, you would be crapping your pants.
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They came to Trump, the deep state, the older elements of it, Bush connected groups, and
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they said, just say, you'll work with us and just say, you'll listen to us some will let
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you win.
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You are the winner.
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And Donald Trump told him, no, the American people are going to decide.
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And they said, okay, buddy.
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Okay.
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And that was a warning last night.
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Guy jumping up with a guy.
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I got a gun.
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I got a gun.
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I got a gun.
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What Trump did?
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He just stood there and waited.
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No, he didn't.
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He looked pretty confused.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's what I would say.
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If you go watch that video with Trump, just as like, Ooh, I don't know.
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I mean like what Alex is trying to do here is just like a half cooked version of like,
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you know, this, this doesn't sound like he's even convinced of any of this he's grasping
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at straws.
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If you listen to us some, what kind of big bad is like a little listen to us sometimes
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Hey, Hey, we're blackmailing you.
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We're going to install you into office 75% of the time.
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Do whatever you want.
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Just to get it out of there is consider we want to be at, we want to see it at the table
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of the office we're literally giving to you.
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I don't always need my way.
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I just need to know you heard me.
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It is, it is a very touchy feely kind of a overwhelming force here in pulling out these
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like this happened yesterday.
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Yeah, you would, you would shit your pants if you knew how real this was.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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It, it to me just seems like Alex isn't, he's not fully developed this, this ability to
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lionize Trump in the way that he's become accustomed to now.
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And maybe it's a lack of development of the skill.
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Maybe it's an ambivalence.
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It just seems very flat.
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This happened yesterday.
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Yeah.
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Get the fuck out.
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We have one, uh, one more guest here on November 6th and it's a guy who's very concerned about
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witches.
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Is it?
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Oh, we got it.
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We got it.
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Larry Nichols.
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Larry Nichols shows up here on November 6th and this is something that, uh, this, this
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is a story that I've heard Larry tell before and uh, let's hear it again.
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Why not?
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It's a good one.
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It's a good story.
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All I can tell you is when finally I had to go to, I literally had to go to her to try
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to get her to stop.
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I went to her, I said, Hillary, if we get caught, when you go into this witch's church,
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we're done.
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I mean, this is, you know, this is early eighties, late seventies, whatever kind it was.
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And I said, there's no way we can cover that, but I said, here's, she said, there's no way
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she's going to go.
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I said, well, then do this.
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I knew Channel 11's crew, TV, local TV station in Little Rock.
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I said, look, you go to the Methodist church every Sunday, I'm going to set the crew, get
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you coming out of the church now, just like I'm going to tell you 20 years ago, you told
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me 20 years ago.
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Yeah.
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You're going to come out of the church and then you're going to talk about how happy
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you were to be in church and how you're professed Jesus Christ and God and all that.
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She turned away from me, she turned away before she took a step.
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She turned her head back to the left and she said, you know, I can't do that.
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And he turned her head back around and walked away.
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Oh, I just got chills.
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I just got chills.
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I love that story.
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Don't believe it, but I love it.
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Hillary Nichols just going to Hillary and being like, we just need you to pretend to
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be into Jesus.
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You know, I can't do that.
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No, I can't do that.
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Why couldn't you?
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Oh, she just can't.
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If you are like, the devil is the king of lies, you and the devil can quote scripture.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not there, not there.
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There are a lot of arcane rules that make sense in context.
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I don't know.
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I feel like if you are an instrument of Satan who is trying to take over the country to
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somehow stop Alex from doing something, you'd be able to pretend that you went to a Methodist
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church and had a good time.
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Yeah.
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It wouldn't be hard.
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I cannot do that.
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Especially considering she's been to church millions of times.
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Plenty of times.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I probably wouldn't play that clip again, because he's told that story a bunch of times,
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but it leads into Alex half remembering something.
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It was in mainstream news, Washington Post as well, that she does these seances for the
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dead and liberals will be there.
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Well, if you can call it the dead Hillary, she's just getting them roped in.
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That's the first level of the occult.
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Can we talk to Jesus?
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And she says, that's the one person we don't talk to.
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Yeah, she said, I can't, you know, I can't do that.
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She told me that 20 years ago, then a decade ago, the Washington Post asked, they were
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like, oh, she does seances.
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Who would she talk to?
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Well, not Jesus.
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She'd let you talk to anybody but Jesus.
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What is that?
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I mean, this lady is a veritable devil.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold the fucking phone.
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So it would be better if they could actually contact Jesus via seance?
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Wouldn't that throw everything that Alex believes into turmoil?
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It does sort of imply that Alex believes these seances work and Jesus is getting snuck.
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You could get, you could get Jesus.
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It's just rude.
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What she's doing is rude.
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Is that what it is?
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I guess.
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That's what they're mad about.
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Oh, you're not going to talk to Jesus?
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You're too good for Jesus?
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Yeah, so Alex's timeline's a little bit off here.
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He's saying that Larry told him about this 20 years ago and then 10 years ago is in the
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news.
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Sure.
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And that's, that's not true.
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This is from a book written by Bob Woodward back in 1996.
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So 20 years ago.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In the book, it's claimed that Hillary would have quote imaginary conversations with Eleanor
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Roosevelt and Mahatma Gandhi as a therapeutic release.
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In 2016, Bill Clinton gave a speech at the dedication of the Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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for Freedoms Park in which he mentioned the exercises that Hillary did pretending to speak
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to Eleanor as a way of helping her cope with her new responsibilities as first lady.
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This video was taken and used to resurrect the talking point that Hillary speaks to the
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dead and engages in demonic rituals, which Alex is doing here.
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As for the part about Hillary not talking to Jesus, from a CNN article about Woodward's
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book, quote, the first lady declined a personal advisor's suggestion that she addressed Jesus
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Christ, however, because it would be quote too personal according to Woodward's book,
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The Choice.
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This is outrageously thin soup.
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Yeah.
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This is just kind of like, I mean, I don't know, I've been in therapy and you talk to
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like your younger self or like a dead relative.
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You do like a cathartic thing where you talk about some memory, I don't know that you need
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to get out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You don't have the ability to.
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It's something that people do.
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I find it completely plausible that like Hillary would have a conversation imagined with Eleanor
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Roosevelt, someone who she admires and now is in the same role as, makes total sense.
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This is all bullshit.
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I think what boggles my mind, it never boggles my mind because it's always obvious, but
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Reagan literally made policy decisions based on an astrologer.
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Like the Reagans had a personal astrologer who they would ask policy questions to and
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then make decisions based on that.
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Yes, but.
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Like we've like.
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Witches.
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Oh, well, you're probably right.
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Yeah.
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Did they astrologize Jesus?
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Did they snub Jesus with the astrology?
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Hillary went to a church with Linda Bloodworth Thomas from the Designing Women.
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Witches.
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Witches.
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Witches.
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So we have one last clip here, and I keep this as a nice way to push back against the
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folks that have, I've gotten a little bit of feedback that people might think that we're
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a little soft on Larry because of remembering him or whatever.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And I would say I take that criticism, but I would also say that the only thing that
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I want to be careful about is I am fine with remembering his history and being like, fuck
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you.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
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I just don't want the occasion of his death to be the reason we would do something like
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that.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And so, yeah, maybe a little bit soft, if only to not be monstrous in presentation.
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I have no interest in turning him into any figure who's not a complete cretin and horrible
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toxic influence on everything that matters.
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It's weird for us to, like, we should probably be graded on a curve as far as reverence go.
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Everybody we talk about would be fine if they all went into an incinerator.
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They're all awful, awful people.
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With very few exceptions, and they are in this by accident.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, we're, no, no, no, fuck all of them.
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Well, yeah, and it's the same with you talking about earlier the, like, Hillary is a demon
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and this is Alex's whole thing, and we're like, eh, this is kind of mild.
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Yeah, exactly, yeah, this is ambivalence.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We're graded on a curve.
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Yeah, there's a, there's an understood these people suck.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah.
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But just to be perfectly fair, Larry Nichols sucks a whole lot.
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This is going to sound terrible, but I want to say it to every white American concerned
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that you better get out and vote, because it's going to be your last chance.
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And again, it's not racially based, the media has made it racially based.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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No, he literally made it racially based by saying that.
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You bet.
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And what do you mean it's not racially based?
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He just said all white people need to vote or they'll never get to vote again.
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That's racially based.
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Well, all white conservatives.
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Sure, sure.
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All white people who are super invested in their whiteness, you better vote because otherwise.
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Meanwhile, meanwhile, literally, right now, everybody who's not a white conservative better
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fucking vote because it might be your last fucking chance.
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You're the new Larry Nichols.
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Apparently I am.
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Yeah, no, so you hear stuff like that and it's like, yeah, okay, Larry, I got you.
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I hear what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Put it down, buddy.
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Anyway.
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You racist piece of shit.
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I found this stretch to be really interesting and really not what I expected at all.
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No, no, no.
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I found it to be mild from a desperation standpoint, but also not in the way of like, we've got
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this in the bag.
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There's still a like, if we lose, we still won because globalism is being discussed and
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PC culture took a hit.
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You know, like it's kind of like a, we're fine if we lose because our business is on
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the right direction.
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We've created the talking points that we need in order to sustain years of fighting Hillary.
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We've talked about her being a demon.
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We might have to deal with that, but you know, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
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I'm coming around to a possibility that Alex did not want or expect Trump to win, which
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is not the framework I've had for the time we've been doing this show.
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Yeah, there is a little bit of, we had our fun, you know, like we had our fun with Trump.
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He got to be a dick to everybody.
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He got to make fun of all the non-white people.
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We got our message out, which is fuck non-white people.
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And now it's like, okay, now we have to go back to the way we used to act.
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It's interesting too that like, you'd never really be able to really know what's what
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because Alex will never be like, hey, don't vote for Trump.
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It's bad for business.
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You can't do that.
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You have to be encouraging people to do the thing that will probably never work out or
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even is not your preferred outcome.
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You have to still push in that direction.
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Like Alex would never want Ron Paul to actually win, but you can never be like, well, it's
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time to give up on Ron Paul and vote for Mitt Romney.
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He's still a salesman, you know, his consumers, you can't just force consumers to eat whatever
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it is you want them to.
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You have to sell them a product they want.
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You can force regular globalists to drink lots of blood, Dan.
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That's the other thing too that was like really disappointing kind of is like looking back
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on like, oh, all of this is just about Marina Abramovic and her art.
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That's how you get to the demon stuff.
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You're just misrepresenting a couple of passages from Bill Clinton's book about him being into
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voodoo Hillary's into seances because she imagined talking to Eleanor Roosevelt.
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Like it's just, it's just so impotent in terms of like having any legs to it.
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There's no like the propaganda is so thin.
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Yep.
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And it worked.
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I mean, I'm just looking, I'm looking for things that are like deeper and it's like,
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no, you just saw a painting that freaked you out.
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It should be harder to end the world.
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I would suggest that you should have, you should have to have something concrete to
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end the world on, but apparently you can just do it with fiction and do it every one.
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That's amazing.
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So, uh, we'll be back for another episode on Wednesday, but we'll be covering present
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day stuff and then next Monday we will get back to the 2016 election stuff and uh, right
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in time for our election, we will see how Alex was behaving the day before his.
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So scary.
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Yeah.
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Um, I don't know if this is a good idea, but oh, well, anyway, uh, we'll be back, but until
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then we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yes.
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Uh, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed.
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Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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The Dallas show, right?
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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those doing
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God's work right now.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I'm the juiciest ice cube.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
