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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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fight.
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Dan and Jordan, a knowledge fight, need money, Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas, stop it, Andy
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in Kansas, Andy in Kansas, it's time to pray, Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks
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for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work, knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're good dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Indeed, we are Dan.
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Just because I go staccato doesn't mean you have to, Jordan.
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I'm trying to play off of your energy.
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Sometimes dissonant energies are better than complementary ones.
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I mean, I've heard that before from minor keys and the like.
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Our whole podcast is me being mellow and you yelling, you shouldn't go staccato when I
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go staccato, you should go smooth.
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I think we can go staccato at different percent, dynamic range is important.
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This is what happens when we've been talking for an hour already before the show.
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You're already annoyed with me.
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Fucking pissed off.
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Get out of my house.
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All right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Podcast over.
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You're promising more than usual conversation, I get it.
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Dan!
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Jordan.
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What's your bright spot this week?
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It's something that has to do with plant watching.
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Not to overburden the audience with talk of my plants, but I mean, it's just really, we've
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mentioned the cucumber plants a bit in the past.
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One of the things is that they're the ones that are really, they've come along the most
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and there's the most life and flowering in them.
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But my bright spot is just a real recognition that like I did successfully pollinate one
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of those plants.
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One of the, at least, I don't know how good my batting average is, but at least one of
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those cucumbers is definitely pollinated.
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It is definitely growing and hopefully, fingers crossed, because it's still not done yet,
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still got a ways to go.
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It could lead to an actual cucumber that I could turn into an actual pickle.
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That would be very exciting.
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Very exciting.
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Are you going to try and eat it as a cucumber first or are you just going to go straight
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to pickle?
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Can I tell you something?
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I don't like cucumbers.
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I think we've had this conversation.
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I might have more of an affinity for them if I grew them myself.
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I've never been a big fan of cucumbers.
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You've never had a nice cucumber salad?
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Maybe even just cucumber water.
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You like cucumber water?
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I don't like cucumber seltzers for sure.
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That seltzer is a different story.
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Cucumber water.
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Cucumber water without bubbles might be better than with, but no, I don't love it.
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Cucumber on a salad, sometimes fine.
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But it's not a highlight.
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But I do love pickles.
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Sure.
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See, I'm going to bring this dissonant energy to you.
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I like cucumbers.
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Hate pickles?
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Hate pickles.
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Despise pickles.
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You're not going to like my future pickle gift.
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I am not going to like your future pickle gift.
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I'm sure my partner will appreciate them immensely.
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And your absolute need as an employee of Dan Industries.
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I will need you to help me fine tune my pickle recipe.
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Sure.
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Is there going to be vats?
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I assume that anything that we do is going to require vats.
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If you don't like pickles, that's really going to put a crimp in your ability to tell me
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if it's a bad pickle or not.
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It's going to perhaps hinder it entirely.
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I might need another contractor.
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I might need another employee.
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Could be.
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Pickle taster.
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I think that's a good idea.
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So anyway, that's my bright spot.
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Like an old king.
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I have a pickle taster in case somebody's poisoning me.
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How about you?
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My bright spot is from the mailbag zip.
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You don't get to zip.
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I'm worried you've ruined the zip bit.
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I think you just fixed it.
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I got my knife.
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Yeah.
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I got my knife, Dan.
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It is an incredibly beautiful and scary device.
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From Chris.
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Policy Wonk, Chris.
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From Chris, Policy Wonk.
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And he sent this lovely note, it's, hey Jordan, this knife goes to you.
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Thank you for your infectious laugh and screaming at the same time as I do.
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Our past don't sound too far off and it's great to see there is a chance to get past
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what your family did.
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Hope you enjoy.
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Keep fighting the good fight.
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You two are needed now more than ever.
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Policy Wonk, Chris.
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And this is from Folk Vongar's Forge.
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Yeah.
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You can find some of his work from the forge on Etsy and a lot of it looks really cool.
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It's very cool.
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Yeah.
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I like the idea of fight the good fight, here's a knife.
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Granted, it's a kitchen knife, not a fighting knife, but yeah, that's so cool.
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Really appreciate that.
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This is a knife that could become, more than other kitchen knives, this could be a fighting
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knife.
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And now that you're saying that, I remember that Chris had sent me a message on Facebook,
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but it's on my personal Facebook and I never see those messages and I owe him a response
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along with about a ton of other people.
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Sure.
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I apologize.
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You and me both.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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Correspondence is the worst thing in the world for me.
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So bad at it.
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It's my worst skill.
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It's something that I need to get better at it.
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It's just one of those things where I get a message while I'm in the middle of working
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and I look and I'm like, okay, I'm going to get back to you, but I got to get back to
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work.
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And then I remember that I got the message.
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So I just assume that I've already responded to you.
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It would probably be better if I didn't keep my email open all the time.
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Probably.
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Because then I see things and I'm like, I got to get back to this later.
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Totally.
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And then I just forget.
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As opposed to like setting aside a time to open the email.
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Yes, of course.
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And then be like, oh, here's what I need.
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I think we might have just...
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We need a new employee of Dan Industries.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or a new strategy.
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Could be.
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Anyway, Jordan, today we're going to be talking about an episode of the Alex Jones show from
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September 17th, 2020.
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I'm Dan.
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This is 2020.
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God damn it.
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Present day, talking about Thursday's episode.
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Some stuff happens.
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There are some guests.
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Indeed.
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Some fun is had by all.
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All right.
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But before we get into that, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who
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have signed up and are supporting the show.
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That's a great idea.
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Yeah.
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So first, Jamie Kaye.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Jamie.
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Thank you.
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Next, Bill F. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Bill.
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Thank you, Billy.
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Next, no last name, Trent.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much Trent.
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Trent doesn't need a last name.
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Everybody knows who their Trent is.
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Strong.
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Strong name Trent.
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Everybody knows.
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Everybody's got a Trent.
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Yeah.
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The T and T at the beginning.
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Great name.
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Strong name.
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Yeah.
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Next, Brandon W. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Brandon.
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Thank you.
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Next, Chloe M.
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Thank you very much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Chloe.
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Thank you.
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Next, person number 42.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Person number 42.
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Next.
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Or the answer to what...
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Sure.
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Next.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technicret.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I think we were trying to trip me up.
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That's a trick.
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That's a trick, sir.
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Thank you so much.
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You're trying to get a longer drop out of this.
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And finally, thank you so much to Jen the Librarian.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Jen the Librarian.
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Yes.
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Thank you very much, Jen the Librarian.
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Librarians are very important in these times, and we need to do a better job of saluting
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our librarians.
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Yeah.
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That sounds like a great bounty hunter name in the apocalypse.
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Jen the Librarian's kind of got that tiny but for a big guy kind of feel to it.
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You think a librarian's real cool and calm, but then she comes at you.
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Boba Fett.
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She's Jen.
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Jen the Librarian.
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Jen the Librarian.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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I know that you tried to emulate one of my signature sounds a minute ago, and I don't
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appreciate it.
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I apologize.
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Do you want to call me a dick through your little...
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No, no, no.
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You don't want to use your sound board?
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No, because I think you want me to, and I don't want to give you what you want.
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You are so defiant.
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But I think the only way that we can right this wrong is if I look in the mail like,
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yep, damn it.
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You're so fast.
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Yep.
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I am currently wearing a shirt.
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Sweet.
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That we got in the mail from Sonya from Sweden.
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We got two different shirts.
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Yeah.
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They are both very, very cool.
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Yeah.
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Got a lot of naked people dancing around what appears to be a pole of some sort.
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Yeah.
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We got...
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This is very much something I can't wear in public.
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Yeah.
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We got, I think, one mess of my shirt.
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I think we figured it out.
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Larges are mine, mediums are yours.
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I think people understand that.
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I think there was that, but also there were two different messages on our shirts.
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One said, fuck you.
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You ruined the environment or whatever it was, and the other one said, save the environment
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or something along those lines.
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The two sides of the knowledge fight coin.
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And I'm just going to go out on a limb and say the negative one was probably for me.
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I think that and the size differences are probably definitive proof.
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Yeah.
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I would say so.
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Thank you very much, Sonya.
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Yeah.
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Thank you, Sonya.
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Also in the mailbags, the secondary compartment in the mailbag, got a box of notebooks with
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notes from the show that thank Mr. Princess for sending in.
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Yes.
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Appreciate that very much.
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Got a lot of notes, but past episodes, they'll help me remember which fucking episode was
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which.
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Indeed.
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Indeed.
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Because I've got to say, I mean, we've done a lot of episodes and I don't remember most
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of them.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say, I don't even know that we're doing a show like this.
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If you asked me what did we talk about in episode 205, I'd be like, I don't know, fucking
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Ron Paul.
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If you asked me what your bright spot was, I probably would forget.
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Something about cucumbers.
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Yeah.
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So thank you, Mr. Princess.
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We appreciate that.
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And now let us bow our heads.
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Oh, are we doing that?
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As we enter the episode.
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All right.
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Alex starts off the show and he explains that he wants to take calls.
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Sure.
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Does not get to those calls until a bit into the episode, which is normal.
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Yeah.
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But what he wants to take calls on, he's pretty clear on this episode that he wants to talk
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about how Trump is saying that there's a great vaccine that he's going to put out.
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Sure.
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Trump's got a vaccine.
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Right.
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He's going to put it out.
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This you would think would cause some friction.
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Right.
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Because he doesn't believe vaccines are good.
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But Trump is saying that this vaccine is good.
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It's perfect.
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Yes.
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So where, where are we going to fall?
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Well, that's why Alex needs to take calls because that's how we can wiggle around and
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like figure out exactly where we're going to go.
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Feel of who these people are.
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Right.
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Right.
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I gotcha.
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I also intend to open the phones up today on one specific issue because I want to gauge
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what the listeners and viewers think.
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And we'll play the clip of Trump here in just a moment.
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He has come out and said, we're going to have a very powerful, very effective vaccine that's
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going to work perfectly.
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Well, that's not true.
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Yeah.
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No shit.
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Can they get a vaccine out very, very quickly?
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Absolutely.
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Have the Chinese already rolled one out of the Russians already rolled one out of the
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Indians already rolled one out of the South Africans already rolled one out and they already
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approved all these.
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Absolutely.
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It's Putin putting sugar water in people.
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Absolutely.
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To end the hysteria.
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He knows this thing is a giant scam.
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Oh boy.
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Wait.
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Hmm.
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Putin's putting sugar water in people.
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Putin's injecting sugar water into people?
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Well, I mean, it's a metaphor.
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Won't that kill you?
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Yeah, it would.
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Yeah.
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That's a metaphor though.
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He does use the expression shooting people up with sugar water later, which would lead
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you to believe that he's actually talking about sugar water.
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It kind of sounds like that's also something that he would believe Putin would do.
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He's talking about this in the, but his idea is that like there's these placebos basically
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like watered down vaccines.
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Like a sugar pill.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They're using to end the hysteria because it's not that big a deal anyway.
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So just give people the shot, make them feel better.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Fuck it.
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I have a question for you.
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Yeah.
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Do any of the callers correctly point out that Bill Gates already has the vaccine?
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Well, according to Alex, he's had it for years.
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Yeah.
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Hmm.
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No.
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And that's actually a real problem with this.
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Like cause Alex's, uh, his whole narrative about this as it's going to evolve, and this
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is basically the position that he's had is that, uh, like he's, Alex claims that he has
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white house sources that are saying that what Trump's doing is that he's saying that he's
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got this vaccine that he's going to put off.
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So this is going to cut off Bill Gates at the pass, right?
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Cause Bill Gates has got his bad vaccine.
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Trump will have, Trump will have some kind of watered down one, right?
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So there's that.
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And then the secondary aspect of it is that Trump saying that he's got this vaccine is
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forcing Democrats to become anti-vax, which is part of the long game also.
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It's just.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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That's, this is all a bad long game.
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It's a bad short game.
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It's the attempt to foil Bill Gates as evil plan by way of Trump supporting it.
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It's wow.
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I never considered that the way out of their anti-vax bullshit was to say that it's actually
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a placebo that Trump is giving people basically an injection of nothing.
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So that's how you are fine with getting the vaccine.
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Cause you know, unlike those stupid Democrats, these people are still not going to get it.
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Right.
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Well, of course not.
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No, of course not.
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So you're a propaganda outlet of like, what's a creative way to get around the fact that
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we have decided that all vaccines will kill you.
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Right.
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No, no, no.
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So this isn't a way to get more people to get vaccines.
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This is a way to explain a way why Trump might be in favor of a vaccine.
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Oh, okay.
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Though your media ecosystem is supposed to be anti-vaccine.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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I'm so tired.
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This is making excuses for Trump.
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That's what this is.
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This is Trump apologia.
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Okay.
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So let's see if Trump tries to sell it that way.
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Probably won't.
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I think so.
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I think Alex knows that this is what's going on and he's got it from high level sources.
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So I'm going to get the number out at the bottom of the hour on call specifically.
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What is your view?
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What do you think?
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I'll lay out next segment.
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What's really going on?
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And again, I was let in on this by the white house and I've said to my sources, I mean,
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they said, okay, if I say this, they say, yeah, Trump really wants the revelation of
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his method relayed to you, but I'm not a puppet of the president.
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I support him because I think he's a good guy and cares about the country and the globalist
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hating, but I do not agree with this.
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So I'll just get that right out there, right out there, out front.
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So Alex's position on this is really interesting because he's like, this is black magic and
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I'm not into it.
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So when he says that Trump is endorsing this vaccine, because that'll make the opponents
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of Trump be anti-vaccine and then they'll end up not getting to this like microchip
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that Bill Gates wants to put out.
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Right.
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So the thing that Alex was selling back when Trump was being like, I don't care, like red
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flag laws for guns.
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Yeah.
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Let's, I mean, let's fucking do us.
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You know, that was Alex's way of rationalizing that was saying that Trump was endorsing these
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things in order to bait the Democrats into admitting that they wanted everybody's guns
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and then nothing would happen.
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So it's like, it's, it, it, this strategy is what he's describing as black magic, like
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using like, oh yeah, do what you want.
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Haha.
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That's what you want.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like saying that any intrusion of reality, even by the God King is an invitation to retreat
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further away from reality.
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You know, like even your fucking like unimpeachable leader, who's always right and perfect about
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everything is saying that we need a vaccine.
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And even then you're like, aha, he's magic tricking you.
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It's Machiavellian.
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Yeah.
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He's trying to trick you into attacking the spot that's the strongest.
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That's just really sad.
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Like on a deep level.
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It's mostly, you know, sad, yes.
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But it also makes Alex think about the Lord of the Rings.
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Oh, of course.
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He's already pulled off miracles to get done when he's done.
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And that's why he's using shenanigans when he's done endorsing the vaccines that I'll
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break down next segment to try to...
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Black magic's the word I'd use.
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And I don't mean that in a literal sense, but it's the same type system I'll describe
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in the next segment.
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Not literal?
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Not left.
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Again, I would also use the ring of Mordor allegory.
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In fact, guys get the intro to the first Lord of the Rings where they describe at the very
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start when it comes with the credits, then it shows the dark Lord in the round hands.
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That's an allegory of how Satan's spiritual control operates and how it gives power to
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those on the earth.
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The powers, the principalities of the air do to control them.
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And Tolkien, you know, wrote books about his Christian allegories and his Christian allegory
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is what it's all about.
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And of course, the original Satan has been destroyed or cast to another dimension, but
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his top servant is Sauron and is seeking to destroy humanity and the other angels that
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have it basically gone along with his operation.
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But that's, again, coming up next segment.
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Let's just continue.
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Hey, guys, did you ever notice that Sauron sounds a lot like Soros?
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Uh, I got pills.
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Did he read the Silmarillion?
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What is he talking about?
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He knows that Sauron isn't the original big bad guy.
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Well, that's in the part where at the beginning of the, isn't it, the beginning of the credits?
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As I recall.
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Fair enough.
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So, the part that Alex is talking about is like that prequel-ish video stuff of the battle
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where the ring gets cut off the finger.
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That was Sauron.
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I know.
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Oh, okay.
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Alex thinks it's not because Sauron's just the eye to him or whatever.
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I think.
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I think that's what he's talking about.
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It is another thing that's interesting to say.
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I don't know if he's ever read it.
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I would be shocked if he read the Silmarillion.
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I'm a huge fan of Lord of the Rings and I made it through about three quarters of it
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and I was like, what am I doing with my life?
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So I would, I would avoid it.
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Yeah.
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Everything goes back to a movie or just something.
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Yeah.
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I apologize.
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I shouldn't have assumed that books were involved with the Lord of the Rings.
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Not when Alex is in play.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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So Alex talks a little bit about a recent comment by one attorney general, William Barr,
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who Alex is in a phase of liking.
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Okay.
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So he's very into this.
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PG, William Barr, coronavirus lockdown, greatest intrusion on civil liberties since slavery.
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I mean, I really like Barr.
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He's got a very deep state pedigree, but man, he just comes off as good and congenial and
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honest and I just, I have a good gut feeling about him when I see him speak and the things
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he says, it all just makes sense to me.
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Yeah, man.
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It's great.
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Until he doesn't and then I'll bring up that his dad's connected to Epstein.
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You would think.
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And then I'll talk about how he was involved in the Ron Contra and like, yeah, he was the
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attorney general for the guy who started the new world order.
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I hate him.
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I hate him so much.
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I hate him so much.
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Yeah, it just doesn't matter.
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William Barr's lies lie.
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Jesus.
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So we got Putin in Russia.
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He's putting out a placebo and I guess Alex thinks it's cool that that might kill, that
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might kill some people.
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Now again, see, I feel like that means that his dictator is now lying to his entire country
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and injecting them with something that honestly you don't know what's in it.
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It could be, regardless of whether or not it is a placebo, it could absolutely still
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kill somebody.
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Well, Alex generally is against that, but he's not.
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Okay.
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But by Trump coming out like Russia did, he's really following Russia's lead.
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They always say he's following the Russians.
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In this case he is.
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Putin, the word is it's sugar water, but the public's scared.
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They bought into the UN hype.
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So he knows it's a regular cold.
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They've got ads running on Russian TV, you know, take your vitamins.
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That's what protects you.
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And so Putin comes out with, oh, we got a vaccine and it's a super watered down attenuated
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that is radiated, fried COVID-19 virus.
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And so it's probably still not good for you.
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It'll probably still have some deaths, have some problems, but they're putting out a watered
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down version because they're not targeting their population.
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This doesn't sound good.
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Even if this were true, this doesn't sound good.
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That's horrific.
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Yeah.
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That's horrific.
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Your government is lying to you, selling you something that's not true that will still
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probably kill some people.
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Probably kill some people.
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That even though it will probably kill some people, won't actually help anyone.
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Right.
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Cause it's a watered down placebo.
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So the vaccine, the vaccine will just kill more people plus.
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No big deal.
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All right, cool.
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The problem is that Bill Gates has ideas, you know?
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I don't disagree.
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He has these things that he wants to do.
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Like with these vaccines, they're going to microchip you so they can follow you around
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everywhere and do everything.
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It's the mark of the beast.
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At the same time, it will also hit a off switch in your, in your body.
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That's true.
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It'll kill you.
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That's true.
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And Alex talks a little bit more, I think about what that was about and this is, I mean,
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it's something.
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Sell me on this.
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He agrees with this until they have the vaccine he approves of the four companies he's putting
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out.
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That isn't even a classic vaccine.
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Again, it goes in and reprograms the cells.
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That's called cancer and creates these proteins that the studies actually say are dangerous
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and turn off chromosome number eight into what chromosome number eight does.
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Chromosome number eight.
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They call that Neptune.
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What happens if you don't have chromosome eight fully expressed?
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Well, that's if it partially turned off and it's turned off.
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You're lucky.
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You never make it out of mama.
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It turns out the more vibrant you are, the more powerful you are, the more connected
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you are, the stronger chromosome eight ish.
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This is a little much, um, there are a class in school that just teaches you how to tell
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when somebody is so transparently full of shit, just nonsense.
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You should have that when you're in third grade.
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They should play you that clip and be like, this is what it sounds like when somebody
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is just so obviously full of shit.
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Yeah, and to be fair, there are a number of conditions that are associated with what's
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known as chromosome eight monosomy, which is a very rare situation where there's a deletion
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of a portion of that chromosome pair that you would normally get from your parents.
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But this is, this is silly.
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This is from David Icke.
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This is all just David Icke shit.
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There's a, I found some stuff on some blogs that were basically, the argument is they
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found something in the PCR test for COVID-19 that matches some portion of, uh, uh, what's
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in chromosome eight, but it's like it's 146 million pairs of, uh, it's, I don't know how
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much this means, but the argument seems to go that because there's actually two versions
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of this argument and both don't make much sense.
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One is that the PCR test is looking for this thing, this stretch of letters that represent
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the DNA that's in all human DNA.
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It's in all that, everyone has chromosome eight going on, so it's in everybody.
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So the test is looking for that.
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That's why there's so many cases which fails to make sense of why there are negative cases.
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Yeah, that one's real bad.
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That one's real bad.
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That's not great.
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Oh boy.
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Now the other one is that, um, they're looking for this, so they'll have the positives and
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then like, God, I don't even know how to, I don't even know how to express this in a
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way that sounds fine coming out of my mouth.
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They are making the argument that this thing is indicative of being positive for COVID-19,
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therefore any cure for COVID-19 would require turning off or killing this, uh, this stretch
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of a DNA, which is chromosome eight, therefore any cure for COVID-19 would debilitate and
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quote unquote turn off this chromosome, which is nonsensical.
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But yeah, so those are the sort of the two, um, the ideas that are growing out of this.
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And as far as I can tell, this all traces back to David Icke.
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So I don't, uh, yeah, I would love for Alex to just sit down and talk a little bit about
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chromosomes though.
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Yeah.
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I would like to hear what else he has to say.
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I'd like to see an extended portion of his show.
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How many chromosomes do you got, Alex?
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Just name them.
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I don't know, but more than you.
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I have so many more.
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You're so much better.
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It was like, I'm so much better.
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Cause I have more chromosomes.
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That's how that works.
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He does later say that his chromosome eight is particularly good.
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You just can't not be a narcissistic piece of shit.
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It's like, I gotta go.
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Oh man.
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I was the first person to cure COVID-19 that Steve.
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So uh, and this next clip, Alex seems to imply that he's working as a surrogate for Trump.
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When he's doing this COVID-19 denialism.
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I don't know.
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I mean, this sounds weird.
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I'm uncomfortable with it.
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And so I know what Trump's doing.
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I'd rather have just come out and expose Fauci and expose Bill Gates and expose the Wuhan
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lab and everything they did.
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He's doing it through surrogates.
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We're doing it right now, but I just still think it is, um, not the route I would take,
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but I guess I'm not the guy that never ran for office and ran in one and they got to
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turn the whole country around.
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The guy that's been right about everything and done all this, but he hasn't been right
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about everything.
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And this is also not the first time he ran.
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Yeah, and he hasn't been right about anything.
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No.
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Um, I know that Alex isn't saying that he's working as a surrogate of Trump to put out
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this bullshit conspiracy nonsense about coronavirus, but that is what that sounds like.
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That is what those words seem to mean.
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Hey Trump, I wish you would come out and attack and say all this conspiracy theory bullshit,
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but he is doing it through surrogates and we're doing it right now.
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It does tend to imply that maybe you're, you see yourself as a campaign surrogate.
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Yeah, it does sound like what he's saying is that we got our orders and I wouldn't have
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given those orders, but I've got my orders, so I'm going to do what I'm told.
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It's confusing at very least.
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So whether or not Alex is an actual campaign surrogate, he's definitely about to talk to
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somebody who probably is an unofficial one and that's fucking Roger Stone.
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Right.
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Roger's on because there was a bunch of news articles that went around recently.
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They were talking about how he came on Alex's show and said that Trump should take all the
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ballots from Nevada and you know, take over if the, the election, you know, all this earlier
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and uh, Roger does what Roger does and that is be like, Hey guys, I was taken out of context.
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The mainstream media bastardized my comments, took them out of context, uh, ignored that
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I said that the, uh, the Insuration Insurrection Act in martial law could be used only if there
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was blatant and flagrant evidence of fraud.
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I did not say the president should invoke martial law if he lost an honest election.
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I never said anything of the kind.
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Two important clarifications there.
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Unreal.
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Like Roger saying the news taken out of context is defense of himself is out of context because
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he's saying that I didn't, I said that if there was good evidence, Trump could do this.
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But he also said that there was good evidence that this voter fraud was happening.
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He said that all of the evidence is there.
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And when he says like, I didn't say the Trump should seize power, I, I, you know, if there
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was a fair election, he also said there won't be a fair election.
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Yeah.
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His, his definition of a fair election is one where Trump wins.
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So the only way that he would want his plan to happen is if Biden wins, uh, which is what
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his plan was about, which would by definition be an unfair election.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, you're, even his defense is worse.
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Yeah.
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It, this, this nonsense about being taken out of context is so dumb, it's so, it's so
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malicious.
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Just go back to saying the n-word.
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He was taken out of context.
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I don't, I think that's, it doesn't matter.
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So anyway, uh, Roger complains about how poorly he was treated by the media.
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Um, and then we get, uh, we get a return of something we haven't experienced in quite
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a while.
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The media, I've been in business, I've been in this business for 40 years.
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It has always been a standard practice for reporter, any reporter, any publication to
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call you when you are, uh, you know, when they're writing about you.
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And that has not happened.
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We are, they write anything they want about you without giving you the opportunity to
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comment.
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What does this signify though?
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They're worried about what you said.
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They really, media matters, Soros, they're really worried because this is their game
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plan.
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Alex is eating.
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Um, so I, why would you reach out to Stone for comment?
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Reach for comment.
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Stone said, nuh-uh, um, reach for comment, uh, Stone said it was Randy Credico.
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It's, it's, it's interesting to me that Roger would be, uh, at a one time employee of InfoWars
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and complain about people reaching out for comment.
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Like I've never seen in an InfoWars story, Alexander Soros was reached for comment about
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the bullshit contracts that we claim are real.
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I've never seen them be like George Soros literally works for the devil.
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When reached for comment, Soros did not respond or whatever, you know, like it never, they
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never reach out for comment for people.
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Not once.
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It's a foreign concept to InfoWars.
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It's just brutal.
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Oh, they do these stories and they don't reach out for me to comment.
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You can just say it like that.
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Like he's, oh, what a dick.
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What a fucking asshole.
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Yeah.
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I hate him so much.
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So Alex claims that he's talked to some people in the Trump White House and not only do they
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have ideas about this vaccine stuff.
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Sure.
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They also have told him that, uh, hey, look, there's going to be voter fraud, no doubt.
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Sure.
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And we're going to do what we can.
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We're going to do it.
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We're going to do what we can.
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And then, you know, the Supreme Court's probably going to get involved.
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I talked to one of Trump's top people yesterday morning.
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He called me and he said that they're optimistic and they believe that there's going to be
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fraud.
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They're going to, the lawyers are going to try to block it, try to hold the election.
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But they said maybe after a few days they believe the Supreme Court is going to come
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in and veto these Democrat Soros attempts to drag this out for months fraudulently.
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What do you think about that statement?
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Is that show overconfidence by the White House?
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Uh, first of all, I, I wouldn't count on the Supreme Court.
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We seem to have a chief justice who voted the liberal block quite a bit.
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So that would give me a call.
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That's exactly what I said.
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I said, how many people are blackmailed?
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At least two of them.
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Well, I don't know about that, but I do know that we have people appointed by Republican
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presidents who, who are deciding wrongly on key issues and voting with the liberal block.
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So now I don't care about any of this except for the fascinating thing where Alex is laying
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out a conspiracy and that is that the Supreme Court's being blackmailed.
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Yes.
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And Roger's response was, I don't know about that.
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Normally in conversation that would happen and then you'd move along.
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Yeah.
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Alex cannot because he needs Roger to be on board with this.
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Roger, I don't want to get into fracas with you, but you're, you're a smart little guy
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know more than I do about actual politics.
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I don't know about the general world.
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I would say as much or more, but remember it came out after the Obamacare votes and
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others that there was some dirt on two Republican members that were appointed by Bush.
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And that, and that, and that there was mainstream news asking where were they blackmailed?
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That's fine.
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I don't have an opinion on it because you're just saying your voting record is pretty damn
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liberal.
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Well, let's get back to the case at hand.
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There's an interesting thing going on where Roger's not playing ball with Alex the way
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that he wants him to.
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I'm confused by that.
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I think it's cause Roger don't give a fuck anymore.
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He got out of prison.
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I'm going to say what I want to say and I don't give a shit about what you have to say.
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Guess what?
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I fleeced your audience for the Roger Stone defense fund and I'm not doing great, but
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I don't need this anymore.
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That's fair.
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Um, and I just get that sense that like Roger's willing to take some exposure or whatever,
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but he is not willing to be like Alex's fake best friend anymore.
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So when Alex wants to go off on a conspiracy about the Supreme Court being blackmailed
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or whatever, he's like, this is too much.
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I don't even care.
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Yeah.
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And it happens again.
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Alex is talking about like how, um, you know, uh, Kamala Harris has been, uh, accidentally
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said the Harris administration and like, oh, this is all proof that Biden's going to step
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down and you would expect Roger would be like, absolutely.
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And not only that, but yeah, cause we've heard even in the past, uh, uh, Roger helping Alex
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be like, yeah, this is a placeholder for Michelle Obama.
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Exactly.
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That's not what he's doing anymore.
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Even seeing in a month ago said, oh, don't worry.
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Biden will step down.
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I think they're getting everybody ready for that right now.
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You know, just having studied the personality of Joe Biden since he went to the Senate in
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age 29, I don't think he will ever step down.
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This is his life's dream.
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He's always wanted to be president.
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This is a person having a conversation with someone without the need to be like, yeah,
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you're right.
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Yeah.
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It's like, it's Roger probably feels embarrassed to agree with Alex about narratives like,
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yeah, Joe Biden, lifelong politician is going to run for president when and then step down.
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Yes.
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Alex, your fear of Hillary Clinton is correct.
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Yeah.
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You know, and, and now he's like, I don't need to, I don't need to play that fucking
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game.
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Yeah.
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I can act like an adult.
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That's no, the Supreme court isn't being blackmailed, but there are some justices who are ruling
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the way that you want some, maybe you can't count on them the way that you would expect.
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They're not all in lockstep with Trump on this shit.
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Oh, that's so annoying how stupid they are about that stuff because Robert's opinions
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that can all really boil down to guys lie better.
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You wrote this in crayon.
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I can't, I want to agree with you, but you did such a bad job that if I, when I die,
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history is going to view my Supreme court as the dumbest fucking Supreme court.
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So I have to say no.
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And then you can Sue and lie better.
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That's what I want from you.
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You children.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and to me, this shows like, uh, Rogers past behavior in such a, like, like a very
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clear light.
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Like, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You're just going along with things that you knew were fucking stupid.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But now don't need to get a fucking pardon.
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I'm out.
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Yeah.
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Now that he's not in jail, he's, he's probably like, I had to meet that asshole.
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Corsi through all this, I hate that guy.
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So Alex gets down with Roger and he goes to his calls finally, and he gets a call from
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a guy named liberal who in many times I've listened, he calls in a bunch.
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He's somebody who says things off him that Alex doesn't like, he doesn't enjoy too much.
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And I thought that this was going to be one of them because he's, he's coming from a place
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where he's like, nah, fuck this shit, man.
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Well, then Bill Gates are working together, liberal, liberal in New York, you're on the
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air.
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Welcome.
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Hey Alex.
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Um, I think this is just all data for the Dylan form.
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I think that Donald Trump under his administration, they've donated $1.6 billion or so to Gavi,
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which is, um, Bill Gates, his organization, that's the global alliance of vaccines and
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immunization.
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And in my opinion, you cannot donate $1.6 billion to an organization such as that where
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who are, um, who's actually one of the four permanent members on that particular organization
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is the World Health Organization and think that it isn't a relationship, a strong relationship
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between Bill Gates and Donald Trump and what we are having now is just theater where they
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are playing off against each other.
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So I heard that and I thought like, Alex is going to go, he's going to lose it.
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That sounds bad.
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No, he's got, no, the way you go with that is, yeah man, Alex is, keep your friends close
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and your enemies closer.
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That's an option that you have.
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But I remember a couple of times that liberal is called in and said things and it's led
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to Alex meltdowns and I just keep, whenever I hear liberal call in, I think like, Oh,
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Alex forgot who that is because it's just led to trouble in the past.
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Maybe he thinks it's a different person every time.
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He must, or there's no memory.
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That's probably true too.
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But this guy calling in to be like, this is all theater.
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Trump's, their administration's donated all this money to the Gavi and all this.
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And Alex shockingly does not get mad.
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But I agree with you.
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This could, this could, this could be the determining factor on Trump.
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I just think his earlier instincts were saying, don't trust the vaccine.
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Don't give it to young people.
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It shouldn't be mandatory.
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And now we're hearing it's going to be perfect.
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It's going to be totally safe.
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Well, that's a lie.
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No vaccine is totally safe.
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So yeah, we're hearing.
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The media always says Trump's lying.
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He hardly ever gets things wrong or lies.
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I know.
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I mean, I cover it.
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He is lying.
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And that's what I'm saying.
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I don't like hearing him.
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I played the clip last hour.
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I don't know if you heard it.
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He said, it's a perfect vaccine.
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No problems.
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It's going to fix everything.
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Well, that's not true.
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This is weird.
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This is very strange.
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Yeah.
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I'm confused.
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Yeah.
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I'm very confused by this.
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But I think that this might be why he's dealing with this through the prism of calls as opposed
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to covering the story.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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And then have this in the conversation with a caller and have less weight than if he was
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just like, Trump is lying about vaccines.
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Yeah.
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He can float some stuff around without, it's like, this is a conversation.
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We're talking about it.
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I'm not.
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But then again, he did just say that Trump is lying directly.
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Yeah.
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So there's that.
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And it would raise the question if you actually believe what Alex is saying is like, why?
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Yeah.
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Why is he lying?
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I guess if he never lies.
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And Alex's point of view, it's to pacify the population, just like Putin is doing.
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With the sugar water.
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Right.
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So you're saying that your dear fearless leader is lying to pacify the population.
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Right.
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For your own good, he's injecting you with a fake medication in order to-
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Right.
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But I'm pretty sure that Alex would be very, very strongly against this if it weren't Trump.
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Well, and I think that that might be part of why he, cause I think that might be too
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far for him to go.
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Sure.
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And that might be why he's dancing around this like this.
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It's anti-vaxxers, the line in the sand for- I don't think it is.
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Trump.
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I don't think so either, but God damn, that'd be a real bummer.
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Yeah.
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His lies about his lies now are not as compelling as my lies about their lies.
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Trump putting out like a watered down vaccine or like that being the image of it and like
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that being what happens, that's workable for Alex.
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Sure.
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Even with the anti-vaxx positions, that's something that could be like, all right, this
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is to get the World Health Organization office back or whatever.
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Right, right, right.
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Bill Gates can't do it, so yeah.
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Now, if there is a huge push to get people vaccinated, there are requirements like you
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can't go to school unless you've been vaccinated, then there's a problem for Alex.
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That will be a problem.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if he'll be able to get around that, but until there are like parts of society
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that you can't engage in unless you've been vaccinated, like you can't be involved in
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healthcare.
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That's fair.
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Or whatever.
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That will be where-
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That really sucks because that's only going to happen next year because we're not going
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to have a vaccine.
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It's not going to happen.
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He's lying about that in order to get elected.
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He knows that there's not going to be a vaccine.
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Everybody knows there's not going to be a vaccine, so the only time period in which
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that happens is in a Biden administration, so they get to go back to kicking ass about
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their anti-vaxx bullshit.
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Yeah, maybe.
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Oh, man.
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We're fucked.
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So Alex has a guest on, and when he said this, it was like, oh, I get what's going on.
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I asked this guest who was on yesterday to pop in for one segment, so we're going to
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spike to him with an update because we did see a huge response, and that's really smart.
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That's great.
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People understand what's going on, and that gets you prepared.
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That gets us prepared.
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He had the CEO of My Patriot Supply, the survival food company, on the day before, and they
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saw a spike in sales, so he's having him back on again to try and move some more product.
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More sales.
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Yep.
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In order to make the most out of this, you really got to hype some shit up.
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Totally.
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You got to really make it seem like-
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Well, you've only got one segment.
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Uh-huh.
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You've got to make the calculations, that's why I'm like, give us the money, buy the products,
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get the stuff, because Trump loses, man.
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No conservative or Christian is even going to be allowed to bank.
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You're like, oh, they'll never have us wear masks, they'll never lock us in our houses.
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No, no, no.
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They're going to do it all according to who?
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They're going to bring in the socialist credit score on January 20th when Biden gets sworn
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in, just like that.
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And they expect the upheaval, they expect you to freak out, and they expect you to come
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hat in hand to their local group and get on your knees to them, and they'll call Google
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up and they will allow you to buy and sell that day.
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And you'll think, oh great, but then they'll want a little more, a little more.
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Teach your son to be a pedophile, cut your son's testicles off, worship world government,
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eat GMO, take all your vaccines, and then they've got you.
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This is just meant to create an intense amount of fear surrounding possibilities of the election.
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And quite frankly, if Alex was sincere, you should just be like, hey, look, your money's
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worthless after the election.
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If Biden wins, money don't mean shit.
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Give me that money now and maybe Trump will win.
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That would be a great- Why the fuck not?
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He's already abusing this audience to that, he's almost at that level.
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You can give me your money now or lose it all next year.
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I do like that.
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That's a great fifth.
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That's just going to be toilet paper later.
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So Alex takes another call, because I'm not going to listen to his food sponsor, Hawk
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Survival Food.
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Of course not.
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He takes another call and this guy had me worried.
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Waltie in New York, thanks for holding Walt, you're on the air.
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Hey Alex, how are you doing?
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I mean, you know, I'm just doing as good as everybody.
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We are in the fight now, brother.
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What do you think about the Holy Spirit, Alex?
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Does it permeate space and is it analogous to a radio, let's say, that we can't see it
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but it's here?
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Could it be permeating and we can tune into it?
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Absolutely.
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His call has nothing to do with that question.
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He moves on to another topic.
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He just moves on from that?
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Yep.
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Like that's a fine thing to do.
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Yep.
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Oh boy.
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I heard that, I was like, uh-oh, Walt, you're freaking me out.
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Oh no.
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Is it possible that the Holy Spirit is like a radio transmission permeating through space?
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You bet it is.
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I do like that response.
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I think that would be my response too.
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Is it possible?
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Yeah, probably.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sure.
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It's weird.
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This show is weird.
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This is a very weird call.
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You get calls and some of them are a Jamaican guy in New York talking about how Trump and
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Gates are working together and Alex doesn't get mad at that weirdly.
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Yeah, why not?
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Another guy calls in and as a non sequitur wants to know if maybe the Holy Spirit is
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like radio waves.
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Why not?
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What the fuck?
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So anyway, much like Alex eating, we haven't heard that in a while, we get another return
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to form.
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Uh-huh.
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You can feel it, you can taste it, you can see it, you can face it, you can hear it,
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Because you belong, you belong in a free world, in a free country, you belong to me with God.
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You belong to have your wife, to have your husband, to have your children, to have your
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grandparents, to have your future progeny.
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You belong in the universe.
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You will conquer the universe.
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You've been given dominion over the heavens.
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You belong.
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Don't let them take that destiny.
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A little bit less inspired than some of his past efforts over, you belong to the city.
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Yeah, that's not as good.
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But it was still a, it was an at bat.
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Here's what I would do.
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Here's what I would do.
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It was a bunt.
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If I'm, if I'm Link Lader, I'm not casting him as guy with bullhorn.
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What I'm doing is casting him as esoteric coach.
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So right before, no clear eye full heart, can't lose, listen, you guys deserve to be
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in the universe.
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Everybody knows that that's the best place.
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The Holy Spirit is coming through you.
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It's like a radio signal permeating everything around you.
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Have I ever told you about the Norse tree of life?
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Anyways, get out there and get them.
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Yeah.
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But it's gotta be chill over saxophone.
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Link Lader movie where Alex is a coach, but it's a weird quirky coach who always has a
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sax player.
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Yeah, I like it.
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No, that's a good movie.
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So Alex takes another call and this guy seems to be like, I'm sick of the bullshit.
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Trump is trying to pacify the Patriots.
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Okay.
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It seems to be some people who are getting through on Alex's show that are not into Trump
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as much.
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Nobody's going to prison of all the people that are complicit and guilty of international
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war crimes that walk around on our government, pedophilia, addition, treason, all those other
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acts and bar drum aren't doing anything or not going to do anything.
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And I think that, you know, I think Trump is playing everybody.
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I think that a lot of people are in denial that perhaps we are definitively in the end
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of times, and then this is all set up and leading exactly where Operation Lockstep says
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to the market to be.
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And I think that this is all coming in and I think that part of what Trump's doing specifically
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with Infowars and Mr. Alex Jones is he's placating the tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands
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and millions of Patriots that listen to you and keep giving them just enough to keep us
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placated just enough to keep us to date it where we have enough hope to where we're not
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going to do anything.
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And it's all going to reach out and smack.
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Well, let me just be clear.
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I am sure of heart.
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OK.
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Thanks for being clear.
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Now make that one a drop.
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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I appreciate the clarity on your heart pureness.
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I would say, first of all, to this caller, Operation Lockstep isn't a thing.
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You've just been tricked into thinking that because you listen to Alex.
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Second, in that document, that Rockefeller document that involved the four possibilities
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of the future of technology in the developing world, you bet the one that was called Lockstep
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does not end with a fucking Mark of the Beast.
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No.
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There's no mention of Satan.
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They usually don't put Mark of the Beast into like a war game studies.
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It's not a religious revelation type document the way you want it to be because you listen
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to fucking dumb dumbs like Alex all the time.
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Now that was what was in the that was what was missing in those 11 pages in the 9-11
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commission.
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Totally.
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It was that it was the devil who was behind it.
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This caller, what he's representing is the inevitable backlash that you will have whenever
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you have all of these right wing type, and I mean, I guess it's probably possible on
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the left too, but it's been really endemic in the right wing, these fantasies of retribution
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that are coming.
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The QAnon stuff is just ripe for this.
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Yeah.
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Totally.
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It's almost perfectly designed to be disappointing to people to the point where they then have
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to create an explanation for why it's disappointing.
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It's going to disappoint you because it's not real.
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But you can never really accept that.
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Right.
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Because it'd make you feel really stupid.
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It would have to.
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Yeah.
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And then I mean, a certain percentage of people respond to that frustration and that disappointment
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that this X, Y, or Z thing didn't go the way it was supposed to, they'll lash out violently.
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And I think that's part of the calculus.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of scary because you hear this guy and he's like, I think that people like Alex,
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who's preaching intense amounts of violence, that guy is part of a plan to pacify the people
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who would be violent.
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Yep.
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That implies that what should be going on is, I don't know, hunting liberals in the
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street.
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I just don't understand how it is that you can see through some bullshit suddenly and
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then be like, yeah, see, well that bullshit doesn't absolutely affect any of the other
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bullshit that I believe in.
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It's because you're not seeing through it.
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You're rationalizing inconveniences.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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So this guy has these things like, hey, you know, like I think that it's possible that
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people like Alex are being used by Trump to pacify these Patriot types and Alex tries
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to push back.
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And mike down for this because it's really interesting.
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Alex tries to be like, wow, come on.
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And then this caller uses Alex's narratives against Alex and Alex has to fold and move
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on to another topic because he can't handle it.
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Oh shit.
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But I don't think Trump himself is evil.
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I think he can be deceived.
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Nobody's perfect.
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But the legitimate hatred of the left of Trump is real though.
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I mean, they don't like it, but that's the place, Alex, that's the play, that's the Hegelian
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dialectic.
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I mean, I learned that from you.
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I agree.
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You know, I talked to all these high level folks, they obsess on the Hegelian dialectic
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because it's real, but sometimes not even playing the dialectic, shatters the dialectic.
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It's a complex issue.
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That's why we're opening the calls up.
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I don't know.
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What do you think?
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You think, I mean, Gaetz is legitimately pissed that Trump has taken the vaccine away from
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him.
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He didn't.
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You can't take it away from him because he owns every vaccine lab on the planet between
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him and the Rockefeller Foundation.
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Every one of his foundations owns and controls everything on the earth to do vaccines.
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No, that's true.
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What do you think about Bill Gaetz's daddy dying today?
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That's a nice little omen.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Alex shifts the conversation to talking about how Bill Gaetz's dad died and then goes to
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commercial because he can't handle this.
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He's like, yeah, Trump took the vaccine away from Gaetz and he hates it, but based on Alex's
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own rhetoric, that is not something that's possible and this caller recognizes that and
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Alex can't handle his own shit being thrown back at him by someone who unfortunately believes
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what Alex says.
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How dare you have listened to my show last week and then remembered it.
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What are you doing?
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Taking notes?
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You saw how perplexed Alex was just by the, that's a Hegelian dialectic.
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This is what you taught me.
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Well I agree.
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Anyways, I bet Trump is not perfect.
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Did you hear Bill Gaetz's dad died?
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Isn't that cool?
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What?
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There's a clown.
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Smoke bomb.
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Fucking dick.
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Yeah.
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So Alex goes to commercial and that was pretty telling to me.
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That was really disappointing.
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I mean, it's exactly what you expect.
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Alex is really dumb and skating by on people, not calling him on stuff like that.
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Right.
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And he comes back and he's got another guest.
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All right.
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Nick Fuentes is on with us.
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Oh, fuck me.
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I really appreciate him joining us.
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We'll take some calls too before we end this hour.
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Paul Watson takes over.
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He's the founder of the Groiper movement.
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He's also been censored and blocked off many areas of the internet, but it's still not
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defeated him.
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He's more popular than ever.
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I'm not sure about that.
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So I don't care.
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We've talked about Nick Fuentes a bit in the past and it's embarrassing for, probably for
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both of them.
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Yeah.
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Because Nick Fuentes fancies himself a bit more of a serious, like trying to get change
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affected in society.
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Sure.
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And so for him to be like slumming it with Alex, like if you talk to Nick privately,
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I'm certain he would say that Alex is a stupid piece of shit.
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Probably.
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Doesn't know anything about any topics.
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Like I'm pretty sure he would be embarrassed to be associated with Alex for anything other
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than publicity.
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Yeah, of course.
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Simultaneously, Nick Fuentes is a 22 year old internet racist personality that like
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is now kicked off stuff, isn't really that much of a relevant figure.
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And I think Alex should be embarrassed that he's having this conversation.
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But as it turns out, this sort of Catholic fascist type world that Nick Fuentes dwells
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in and Alex's world are very much on a similar project.
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They have...
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Killing the liberals?
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Well, eventually.
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Oh boy.
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We're trying to get the word out to every major dissident right sort of outlet to put
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the word out so that when this tries, when the globalists try to steal the election,
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when this transpires, everybody will be watching and looking at the mail in ballots.
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People will be watching.
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Let me just stop here.
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I mean, they're already done the precursor.
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They're already doing it.
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I mean, they're going to do it.
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So they're already doing it.
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I agree.
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So how do we counter that?
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How do we get ahead of it?
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Just expose it?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Expose it.
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And I think the trick is going to come in on election day.
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Like you said, Trump is going to win the election.
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I think it'll be a landslide electorally.
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And what you'll see is that in the days and weeks after the election, that's when they're
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going to find all of these extra votes for Joe Biden.
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And a Trump landslide will transform into a Joe Biden landslide because they'll basically
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be committing voter fraud, massive voter fraud, because of the mail in ballots.
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So the two of them have a similar project in as much as creating a preemptive narrative
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that invalidates any non-Trump victory outcome of the election.
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And this idea that the days after the election, that all that is just to call into question
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and make suspicious the reality that it may take longer to come to, like to count ballots
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this cycle because of the realities of the world.
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And you're just creating a preemptive track in order to, because they know what they're
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going to do.
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They know what they need to have narratives work come November.
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They need to do this to set the table in order to do whatever they plan to do, which is if
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Trump wins, say they tried to cheat, but he won anyway, it was such a landslide.
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And if he loses, then decry the voter fraud, all these ballots being found everywhere,
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blah, blah, blah.
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Trump's the rightful president.
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It's painfully transparent.
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It's just such a bummer that this, cause I don't think the right wing is all that extreme,
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this extreme, but there's no way for them to deescalate if Biden wins.
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Like the, what they have to say.
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These people, yes.
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That's what I'm saying.
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These people cannot deescalate.
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They just can't do it.
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You would think that, and I think for a certain segment of their audiences, you're absolutely
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right.
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There is no deescalation.
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But you think that about Alex in a lot of, you know, times in his life, like it's true.
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You know, there's been a lot of times that he's been like, this is the globalists making
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their move.
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Now, granted, it's been way more severe in the past six, nine months, but you know, Alex
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is such a shithead and his audience is clearly so browbeaten and indoctrinated that like,
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I don't think it's impossible that Biden could win.
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And then he could be like, now we got to go back to our roots.
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Rand Paul actually is a, you know, he's, he's a fiscal conservative, he's a, he's a real
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guy in the Senate.
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He is a proven track record.
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We got to get behind him.
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And you know, who's exciting?
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Josh Holly.
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Yeah.
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Who's exciting?
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Jim Jordan.
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You know, like I could, I could, and it's not like, and just like Bill Barr and how
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he can hate him and bring up all the Epstein corrections, unless he's doing something that
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he likes, they can, he can just be like, well, we thought Trump was the guy, but look at
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all the ways that Trump lied to us and failed us, which you can point to because they did,
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you know, like there's a, there's a built-in like, well, we can't do Trump stuff anymore.
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We got to, yeah, you might be right.
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Even if you want to not do that and salvage what you've got here, it's very simple to
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just be like, all right, look, yes, the globalist stole the election, but what are you going
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to do?
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They've stolen them before.
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We have the reality in front of us that we have.
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You know, you can, you can, uh, try and get the Supreme court to overturn the election,
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but guess what?
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Most of them are blackmailed.
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Anyway.
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It doesn't matter.
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The only thing you can do is buy my survival food, keep us on the air and we'll continue
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the fight against the globalist, which, uh, is going to happen right here on a band dot
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video to probably cause band out video one, the original one, they're blocking the links
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to that, but I got another URL and you could do that there and then, uh, got my survival
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food guy coming in again cause we moved some product yesterday.
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It's very exciting.
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Also got a crypto fascist coming in, going to interview him about how we should shoot
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folks.
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Cool.
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Oh boy.
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I wonder why we're censored off all these platforms.
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Just have one question for Alex, which is why isn't Carrie allowed on band dot video?
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That is a real serious question.
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That's the only question that I like.
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If we were going to talk to Alex.
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Free speech for Carrie Cassidy.
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Exactly.
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I will absolutely spearhead the get Carrie Cassidy on band dot TV.
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If I lived in Austin, I probably would, as a goof, try and protest for Carrie outside
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Alex's office.
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We've got a tiny bullhorn.
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We could get enough people to, uh, leave the little lake area and head over to Alex's studio
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and we're going from Barton Springs over to Alex's studio to try and get this space weirdo
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put on his website in the name of free speech.
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That's a great idea.
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That sounds like us.
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Um, Alex and Nick Fuentes, like, like I said, their project is in sync right now, which
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is not too surprising.
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Yeah.
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Um, and it's just like, if you're listening to this show, it's so clear that it's already
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in place.
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The narrative is already in place that there is only one rightful outcome of the election
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that hasn't happened yet.
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They know they're losing this election.
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They've said it.
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I mean, for folks that just tuned in, it's the Democrats are on record.
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They know they're losing.
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That is a political realignment.
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All they can hope to do is break their cities and states off and challenge it to literally
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bring the economy down.
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And so at that point I say, arrest their ass and I'm an anti-police state, but if you're
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holding the country hostage and holding me hostage, I say, walk a plank.
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Absolutely.
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Well, yeah, it's a coup.
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So you have this presentation that like everybody knows that Trump is going to win the election.
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So anybody who's not on board with that should be arrested.
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Yeah.
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That's fucked up.
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Yup.
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It's kind of scary.
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No matter what, it's a coup.
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They will not accept it.
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I mean, yeah, it makes sense.
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They're fascists.
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Why would they care what an election says?
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You know, like, of course not.
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Well and they, you know, I mean, one argument against them being fascist is that they want
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to outlaw their rival party.
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When have fascists ever done that?
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That's a really good point.
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They want to do it through the court, Stan.
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Even if we win this battle and Trump gets in and everything, then in 2024, we have another
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fight.
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And that fight is over the succession after Trump leaves office.
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If he doesn't leave office now, he leaves office in 2024.
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And listen, hold on.
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I want to hear this because if we had a second party getting in power, we don't have a party.
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The Democrats are the Chicom in America party.
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So we need a second party or are you saying the Republicans split in two and all there
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is is a secession fight?
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Because I agree, we have to extate the Democratic Party.
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They're done.
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They're like the Nazi party at the end of World War II.
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This party's done.
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Oh, yeah.
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There's nothing redeeming about that party.
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I got bad news about the Nazi party post World War II.
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Wow.
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You're talking to a guy who's friends with people who are still aligned with that party.
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I love the way that he puts that, too.
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We've got another election in 2024.
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We have to figure out who's going to succeed the king.
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Obviously.
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It's secession.
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It's not an election.
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Why would you have an election?
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That's why we want to vote Trump in it.
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Jesus.
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No, I mean, I think I've heard some of Nick's conversations in the past or he does have
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some ideas towards Catholic monarchy.
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Sure.
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Like that is not super out of sync with like his position.
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You know what we should do?
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It should be Melania Trump.
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Yeah, a lot of these folks in this end of the right wing are very close to wanting a
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king.
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Yeah.
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They probably wouldn't want to say that.
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Of course not.
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But they would say everything except that word.
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Right.
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That would be a dirty word.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's really fucked up.
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Our duly elected king.
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Jesus.
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How can you be so like fucking 1776, we got rid of the king.
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2020, let's get a king.
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Jesus.
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Yeah.
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And this idea about like let's extinct the Democrat party is, it's tough because I mean,
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let's imagine that the Democrat institution, the establishment of the Democratic party,
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what would you call it?
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Like the fundraising apparatus, all that, the institution of it goes away.
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There's still going to be people with the exact same politics.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
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They will also be going away.
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Alex used to think that every, like the only reason-
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What's going to get rid of the DNC?
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You don't have to worry about it anymore.
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The only reason anybody has any politics to the left of Rand Paul is because Nancy Pelosi
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exists and the Democratic party is there.
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They're just like, okay, we're outlawing the Democratic party.
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All of you liberals and Democrats, now you're just Republican light as though their policies
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in the Republican light party are going to change.
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It's an interesting way for him to, I don't know.
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I mean, if you look at it from just like a reality-based perspective, what he's talking
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about is really just the disruption of the apparatus of the Democratic party.
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It's not like you wouldn't be able to outlaw political beliefs, at least I hope that's
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not what he's advocating, but what the real world version of this would be, would be disrupting
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the funding mechanism for candidates and stuff like that.
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What that would do is give a bizarrely comical advantage to right-wing candidates.
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I would suggest we extinct both parties and split up into multiple parties.
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It would be better as a system, I think, if we had more than two parties, but that is
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little bearing on my feelings about becoming election.
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100% true.
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I agree with you there as well.
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Because we currently have a situation where the incumbent has a lot of followers who seem
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to think that God sent him.
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It's insane how maverick and real he is.
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God literally had to give us this because Trump's not perfect, but he's definitely his
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own dude.
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They cannot stand it.
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This is God's sense of humor, Nick.
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It is.
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It is.
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He's a human being.
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He is a human being, flesh and blood, and even just the other day he's posting a picture
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of himself eating a Philly cheesesteak, and it's something that's very maybe silly or
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something, but it's a reminder that this is a real person as opposed to what we see on
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the other side.
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Because a stuffed-up elitist would not even do that.
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Or it would come off as fake when Trump becomes as real as it is.
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Isn't it so amazing that Trump took a picture of himself eating a cheesesteak?
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I really want to acknowledge that he just gets away with not dealing with that Trump
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tape.
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I mean- You know what I'm saying?
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He just gets away with, he doesn't have to respond to that like, oh yeah, I knew it was
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super deadly.
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He just doesn't have to deal with that.
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Not that I've heard of.
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He just doesn't have to, that's just such bullshit.
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You know why?
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Dude ate a cheesesteak.
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He's real.
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I don't think you understand the political importance of a guy eating a cheesesteak.
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And he doesn't come off phony when he's eating a cheesesteak.
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I'm just going to light myself on fire.
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He was sent by God and- And the evidence of this is a very sincere
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picture of him eating a cheesesteak.
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You know, the Antichrist famously convinces all false Christians that he was sent by God.
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That's an interesting piece of- Just pointing that out.
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Trivia.
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Yeah, when I hear stuff like that, I'm like, this bar is so low.
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Unreal.
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It's comical.
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That's just sad.
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They should feel like they're pathetic wastes of human beings.
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It's just so funny to imagine them making fun of someone on the left being like, Obama
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ate a cheesesteak.
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Isn't that amazing?
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Of course.
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Of course.
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It would be a week-long news cycle for Alex.
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Everybody would go, he wore a tan suit.
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It'd be fucking cheese water, cheesesteak water.
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Alex spent a week talking about Mike Bloomberg eating weird.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, it's very sad.
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It's exhausting how stupid they are.
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So Nick Fuentes has some interesting thoughts about Matt Drudge and his current not being
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super into everything Trump does.
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Ambivalence.
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It's tricky because for so long, I mean, his website, I think, was really groundbreaking
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and the format and everything was key to it and providing conservative news for a landscape
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where that just, you don't have a lot of conservative news, but lately it's been out of control
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and it's something that I've noticed maybe for about a year or something, but lately
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in the past few weeks, I think it was Drudge that circulated that story initially about
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Trump calling the troops losers and a lot of that kind of the rumor type stuff from
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the Trump administration has been pushed there.
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And even this week there were some really terrible headlines there.
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And I saw that and I think that's such a shame because we as conservatives or we as broadly
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right wing patriotic type people, we don't really have that much infrastructure and that
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many assets as far as information goes, with the exception of you and others.
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You and others.
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One of the things that Nick's pointing out here is kind of fair and that is that the
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right wing put way too much in the Matt Drudge basket.
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Yeah, probably.
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It was such like everything for right wing talk radio people.
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That was where they would get their headlines.
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Their talking points essentially all boiled down to what does Drudge think is important?
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There's so much stock that they've put in him that now this is a crisis for them to
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try and figure out what do we do if we want to keep promoting Trump but Drudge is waffling
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a little bit, how can we get rid of Drudge?
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What do we do?
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We have to say Drudge has changed and Alex has obviously said I'm not going to criticize
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him but he's clearly playing for the other team.
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We're for the devil but I wish him the best.
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Right.
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Whereas with Nick I think it's an interesting approach and I think that he's trying to say
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that his Drudge has changed and so he's posting these rumors now.
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These Trump rumors and what I would suggest is sit with those feelings for a little while
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and try and think about old Drudge.
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Do you think he was using better editorial standards?
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I don't understand.
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Do you think that maybe that's all he's ever done is post bullshit and rumors?
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Come on now, Dan.
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Do you think that may- They used to agree with me all the time.
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Yeah, right?
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It is just a, it's not a bug for them.
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It's the feature is like it doesn't matter if I 100% respected this person and thought
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he was a god.
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He disagreed with me and the way that I think things should be run so now he's against me.
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But with Drudge- That's the way they love to act.
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True.
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It does happen a bunch and there's a lot of functionaries who are really easily dismissible
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who you can just throw out like Scaramucci, get rid of him.
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But they're struggling with Drudge and I think it's because he predates the Tea Party.
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He predates so much of the things that are like, he predates any idea that Trump was
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going to be a fucking political figure.
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He goes back to Bill Clinton days.
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There's something so essential about Drudge in the right wing media sphere.
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Yeah, my dad read Drudge nonstop to the point where I remember specifically, I can see the
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Drudge page on 9-11.
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I can see it in my head.
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He read it so much.
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And you can trace a straight line from Drudge to so many things.
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Almost anybody like Hannity, Tucker, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, they all were just feeding
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off Rush Limbaugh.
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They're all feeding off Drudge headlines.
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And they all, like people like Alex, knew that getting things on Drudge meant you've
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made it.
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Then you think about like, okay, Project Veritas, that like, okay, well, where did that come
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from?
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That came from Breitbart.
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Andrew Breitbart was behind the promotion of James O'Keefe in his early career in the
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launch Project Veritas.
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Andrew Breitbart got his start working for Drudge.
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Like Breitbart, the publication came from Andrew Breitbart who went and worked for Drudge.
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All this, like so much of this spiderweb of media tendrils all can kind of either directly
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or spiritually trace back to the influence of Drudge.
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And I don't think that they have as easy a time with just being like, fuck that guy.
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He's against us.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's why Alex can't say those things, like even if he should say that he works for the
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literal Christian devil.
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Yeah.
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I imagine that what they think is if they antagonize, because they have to make it personal.
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So they, I imagine that they think like, oh, if we antagonize Drudge too much, then he's
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not just going to be like on the sidelines, supposedly.
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He's going to be actively against us.
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And I think that maybe they're worried that Drudge knows the game and might expose the
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game.
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Yeah, that's probably true.
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Oh boy.
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I don't think they have anything to worry about on that front, but I would be afraid
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if I were them too.
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So since Drudge is kind of like, you know, a little waffling, ambivalence, Nick's got
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a new outlet to promote.
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Sure.
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And I have to say it's been a very positive and interesting development that this revolver
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has come around and I don't know exactly who runs it, but I've been, I've been watching
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that lately.
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I don't know about you, but I've been reading a lot of really good stories.
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I mean, another thing is revolver.
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It's like revolver book, the plan that Democrats plan to go, everybody's zero hedges been covered
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and we, I'm not, it's not about credit, but yeah, no revolvers doing a good job.
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So do you think it's behind that?
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I don't know exactly.
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I don't know.
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Maybe Matt Drudge sold the Drudge report and he runs revolts.
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Possibly.
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That's possible.
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I would hope so.
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That would redeem him, I think in my eyes a little bit, but it's a great publication
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and I'm not, I'm not like behind it.
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I'm not trying to shill it or anything.
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I'm just saying it's like a, it's a, it's a positive, good job.
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So I don't know what the preoccupation is on the right with outlets that have people
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under fake names or aliases writing them.
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The only way you can tell the truth is if nobody knows who you are.
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Yeah.
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So I checked this out, this revolver thing, and it's just like a aggregate of tons of
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headlines and stuff.
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And you know, it's, it's a very useless website.
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But they could have chose a different name because revolver is already a music publication.
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If you search for revolver, you find out about stabbing westwards new song.
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Apparently, I don't know, I almost do it.
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Apparently Korn and POD have a side project.
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Not concerned.
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I don't even know if this is a real website.
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These seem like absurd headlines.
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These can't be real headlines.
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What do you got?
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What do you got for me?
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Marilyn Manson has a new album?
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Yeah.
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You didn't know that?
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No.
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Yeah.
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He had a new album.
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Came out a couple of weeks ago.
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Something about typo negative.
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Are they still around?
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Yes, they are still around.
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Okay, fine.
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I haven't heard these names in a long time.
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Just because they're irrelevant doesn't mean they don't exist.
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I'm not saying they're irrelevant.
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I don't mean to impugn their careers.
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It's just, I've not heard anything about Korn and POD and the fact that they have a side
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project.
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See, that's what I'm saying.
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I haven't heard about Stabbing Westward since like 1998 with that, what do I have to do
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to make you want me?
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What do I have to do?
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That song, no one remembers that.
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No, I don't.
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That was from the 90s.
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Yes, because that's where it should stay.
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The first headline on Revolver's top stories is about Stabbing Westward.
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This seems like a joke.
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Everything old is new again, Dan.
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Nothing against Stabbing Westward.
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I really did enjoy that, what do I have to do song.
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Try their new album.
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Can't do it.
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Can't do it.
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You're turning into an old man, I don't know what these kids are listening to, it turns
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out it's the same shit I did 30 years ago.
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Fucking headlines about Gwar, what's going on here?
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Everything old is new, Dan.
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Surge from System of a Down, I mean I knew they were still active for Hatebreed, Hatebreed.
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I don't think Revolver is necessarily covering my genres of music.
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That might be what we're talking about here.
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It might not be a broad music publication, it might be-
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It's very specific.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, the point is, Revolver already exists as an entity that, even though I didn't realize
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it was kind of like a metal music or that genre, I still knew that it was a thing.
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I knew Revolver was a magazine.
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But this is an aggregate, so it's different.
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So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex and Nick Fuentes, they have some complaints
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about Fox News.
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Sure.
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And it's because they had an interview with Newt Gingrich that didn't go well.
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Right, because he was lying out of his teeth.
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Right, because he started bringing up Zorros.
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Well, you don't want to do that.
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And I think that this actually brings up a really important point.
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These days, and even just the other day, I don't know if you saw this, but Fox News,
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it got really weird when Newt Gingrich was on talking about-
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Yeah, cue that up.
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Nick, let's play that clip.
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Anybody talks about Zorros, who publicly funds anti-fund, BLM, and who publicly is getting
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all these district attorneys elected, if you say it, you are the devil.
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So here's what Nick Fuentes was just talking about.
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Look, the number one problem in almost all these cities is George Zorros elected left
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wing anti-police pro-criminal district attorneys who refuse to keep people locked up.
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Just yesterday, they put somebody back on the street who's wanted for two different
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murders in New York City.
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You cannot solve this problem.
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And both Harris and Biden have talked very proudly about what they call progressive district
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attorneys.
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Progressive district attorneys are anti-police, pro-criminal, and overwhelmingly elected with
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George Zorros' money.
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And they're a major cause of the violence we're seeing because they keep putting the
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violent criminals back on the street.
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I'm not sure we need to bring George Zorros into this.
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I was going to say you get the last word, Speaker.
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He paid for it.
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I mean, why can't we discuss the fact that millions of dollars-
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No, you didn't.
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I agree with Melissa.
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George Zorros doesn't need to be a part of this conversation.
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Okay.
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So it's verboten.
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All right.
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We're good.
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Okay, we're going to move on.
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Holy shit.
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Ooh, Gingrich was shocked.
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Well, you know, this is what happens.
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Fox News is not able to broadcast the conclusion of their thoughts.
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They facilitated all of this, this lean towards conspiracy, these easy explanations for all
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these social ills.
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It all goes back to Zorros' funding shit.
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Yeah, of course.
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This is the fruit of what they have brought into the world.
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Of course.
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And I think that right now, those hosts at least recognize, oh shit, this belongs on
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Infowars.
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Yep.
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This doesn't belong on Fox News.
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No.
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Unfortunately-
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Not Infowars.
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We have eroded things to the point where now we're the same thing.
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And quite frankly, you would have expected maybe someone who used to be relevant like
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Newt Gingrich would know better.
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You would think.
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He does not.
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Uh-uh.
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You're not safe.
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Even in an interview with Newt Gingrich on Fox News.
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Jesus.
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This Infowarsy bullshit's going to-
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It's everywhere.
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Yeah, it's going to filter.
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It's gone too far.
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It's mainstream now.
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Yeah.
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It's strange.
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It's like, I wonder if there are any times in human history before where people have,
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I don't know, opened some sort of box and then once what was in the box was released,
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they weren't able to put it back in the box anymore.
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Have you ever heard of any situation like that?
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So there's really no way we could have seen this coming, Dan.
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No, I don't know of any metaphors or expressions that you're trying to touch on.
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No, it's impossible.
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I can't think of any.
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Nope.
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Well, I'm at a loss.
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Yeah, it's interesting.
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And I think it's the same thing almost as that caller bringing Alex's shit back up to
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him and him having to change the subject and go to break.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's the same thing.
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These people are interviewing Newt Gingrich and he brings up fucking Soros conspiracies
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and it's like, this is your fault, but you also can't keep going down this road because
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you know where it goes.
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Yeah.
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Hey, buddy.
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Soros cares if we lie about it.
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Soros doesn't care if Infowars lies about it.
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But we're big.
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Yeah.
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We can't be doing this shit.
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I mean, it's just the sort of, it's interesting that there's sort of two parallel examples
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of like the limitations of this game.
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Yeah.
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Just sort of, and how you will end up creating something that you yourself can't engage in.
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Yeah, of course.
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And not just that, but it's literally just that like, they don't know what to do when
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what they ostensibly think are allies are forced to deal with reality, whereas they're
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not.
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You know, just like with Alex and the guy on the phone call, it's just like, if I am
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forced to engage with reality, this is all wrong.
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This is just not how it's supposed to go.
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And then when it happens, they're like, I could examine whether or not they have a point
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or I could call them Soros funded operatives and that one's fun.
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Yeah.
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It bums me out.
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Anyway, we did not have time to gather phone calls because we had a guest appearance on
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a podcast that will be out eventually that we had to record before this.
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So apologies, we couldn't get any calls, but we will have some on our next episode.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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We're on Twitter.
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We're fighting I go to bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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We're also on Facebook.
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Indeed, we're on Facebook.
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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those people
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do God's work.
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Hiccups.
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Yeah.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I belong to the city.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
