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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Well, this bright spot is a little moment that was brought to you by an alley.
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McBeal?
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Oh.
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I was walking to-
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Is it a dancing baby?
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No.
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I was walking to the store and I noticed that there was a bit of, like, blockage in an alley.
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Like, there were a bunch of cars backed up.
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And so, you know, one of the routes that I could go to get to the store was through this
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alley.
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And so I decided to walk through the alley and see what was going on here.
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And it turned out that this lady was trying to get in on a fairly tight turn because someone
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had parked in the alley and it made getting into her parking space much more difficult.
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Yes, indeed.
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And so I noticed, like, oh, this is a problem for a bunch of people.
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No one's taking care of this.
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And I was like, I guided her, you know, like, you can pull back a little bit.
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Well done.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because I looked and I saw, like, she was clearly, like, overwhelmed.
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Mm-hmm.
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She had a kid in the back of the car.
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I was like, this is the sort of thing where, hey, it takes a couple minutes out of my day.
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I can make everybody happy.
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Great stuff.
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Instead of these dicks who were just behind her honking.
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Ah, ah, ah.
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Let's not solve a problem.
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To be fair, they weren't, like, aggressively honking or anything, but it felt like the
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situation that no one was solving.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it was completely easy to solve.
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And I guess the bright spot is just, like, being able to, like, help out and then walk
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around.
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Well, that's fantastic.
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Go about my day knowing that, you know, hey.
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Look at me with my Good Samaritan ass walking around.
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It's less Good Samaritan and more just like, that was a problem that got solved.
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All right.
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Like you slap your hands, ah, ah, and we did it.
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Kind of, yeah.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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It's a feeling of.
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You built a desk.
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Mild accomplishment.
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Sure.
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Everybody is feeling better at the other end of it.
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Of course.
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I'm feeling like I helped somebody.
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That lady got into her parking space and she felt helped by somebody.
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Everybody gets to move on with their day.
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The people who were behind that car ended up, you know, it's all because this one fucking
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person parked in the alley.
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Sure.
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No reason for that.
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No, no, no.
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Let's all remember who the real villain is.
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Everybody comes away feeling better and just like, all right.
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That's great.
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Sometimes small things should be turned into the sports movie where everybody carries you
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on their shoulders.
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Yes.
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I should have had a Rudy.
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You should have been carried through the alleyway and taken to, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, glad you got there because that's the point I was trying to make.
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That's what you were going for.
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Yes, I agree.
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How about you?
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Mine is the successful, as we finished the U.S. Open, or as you finished the U.S. Open
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finished.
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I didn't finish.
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Your anecdote.
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Oh, I see.
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Almost similar simultaneously.
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It was a little bit earlier.
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But Dominic Thiem won the U.S. Open defeating Sasha Zverev, who I am strongly against.
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Okay, so you like that guy lost.
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I like that he lost.
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I love Thiem.
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I like a good one-handed backhand.
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It was great.
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It was the first time somebody under the age of 30 has won a U.S. Open in, I don't know,
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probably 85 years or however long Nadal's been around.
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I'm worried that your bright spots are getting dangerously close to tennis updates.
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I'm not going outside a lot.
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Yeah, I know.
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I'm not going outdoors.
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Still, right?
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It is becoming like this is the SportsCenter tennis update.
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Oh, do you want to talk about plants out here?
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Is this the home and garden network?
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I mean, now that you mention it, I have some peas coming in that I'm pretty excited about.
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See, there we go.
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We're understanding our situations here.
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Yes, we have interests.
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There are very few other things going on.
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All right, guys.
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Welcome to Plants in Tennis and Alex Jones.
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All right.
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Jordan, we've got an interesting episode to go over today, but before we get to that,
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we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are
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supporting the show.
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Wonderful.
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So first, Kelsey E. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Kelsey.
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Next, Justin S. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Justin.
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Thank you.
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Next, Karen C. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Karen.
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Thank you.
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Next, Matthew L. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Matthew.
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Next, ooh, terrible name.
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Jordan G. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Jordan.
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Terrible name.
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Terrible name.
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Person with a terrible name, Jordan.
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Next, Keegan K. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Keegan.
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Thank you.
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Next, David T. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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Thanks, David!
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Thank you!
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Uh, then, uh, Bazzoot Bob, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Bazzoot Bob.
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Thank you.
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And finally, let's say thank you to two couple people who donated on elevated level, we appreciate
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that very much.
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So first, Lauren P., thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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And Hannah L., thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Lauren, and thank you so much, Hannah.
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
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If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support
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what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking
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the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
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Or, uh, what you could do is you could, uh, I'm sorry, the moment I get into a space where
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I'm trying to create something, you started scratching your beard, and I was like, alright,
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what you could do is you could take that and scratch your beard with, no, that's not how
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that works.
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Get a little beard comb, shit, no, take the beard comb to the charity, no, it's a beard.
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Dan?
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I think you're worse at this than me.
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Scratch your beard.
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I really think I'm pretty bad at this.
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I know.
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But I think you're worse.
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I'm really taking it to a new level.
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What you should do.
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Yes, what's that?
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Is you should take a class on how to improvise, and then put on a show, and give the proceeds
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of that show to charity in the form of the generosity that you.
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That's great.
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Oh, no it wasn't.
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That's fantastic.
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It's more coherent than the beard scratching thing, that's for sure.
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You scratched your beard, and it threw me off.
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So Jordan, today, I think that there is probably a slight expectation that people might have
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that we're going to be talking about Roger Stone, and you know how the media has decided
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to cover his.
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I'm confused.
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He calls for a violent overthrow of the country every other day.
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What are we doing?
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What are we doing?
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Are we busy?
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Well, it's, I mean, we're closer to the election, and maybe things are a little bit more explicit
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than they have been in the past.
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But that's not what we're doing today.
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Of course not.
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Today we're doing a very special episode, policy wonk Keith got in touch with me.
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All right.
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Reached out and wanted to, you know, it's been a bad year, a lot of negative, a lot of down
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feelings.
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Sure, sure.
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You know, we got this coronavirus going around, this COVID-19, everybody's had a tough time.
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And he and his wife, Laurel, are having their anniversary, and they wanted to go back to
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the day of their wedding.
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Oh, no.
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So today we are going to be time traveling back to September 13th, 2012, to be experiencing
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what was going on on the Alex Jones show on the day of Keith and Laurel's wedding.
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I think this is a way better one than making a time capsule for someone who's going to
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listen to it when they're 16.
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I don't know if they'll be really ready to appreciate our show at 16.
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But wedding anniversary?
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Sure.
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We can do that all day, Dan.
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Yeah.
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So it's their 8th anniversary, and Keith informs me that they met 21 years ago at, ooh, Alex
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is going to hate this, Model UN Conference.
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Ooh, we've got the globals of globalists here.
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Model globalists.
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The Shadow Gate of Gates.
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They started listening to the show together a couple years ago when Laurel was going through
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getting diagnosed with a pituitary tumor, parentheses turns out to at least be non-cancerous.
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Oh, that's good.
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Ooh.
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Ooh, that would have been-
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That's a relief.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That would have been a relief to both Alex and the podcast through the Christmas Eve
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episode with the drunken hatchet throwing.
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Jordan turned out to be her spirit animal, and she got a lot of emotional relief screaming
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at the same things many times a few seconds before.
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Since then, it's become a bit of a ritual to keep up with the show, and she's taken
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on as a fairly successful personal endeavor to get Infowars listeners to think outside
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the Alex box by invading their chat.
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I like it.
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I enjoy it.
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Wow.
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Get in there.
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I guess.
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It's courage.
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It's courage.
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Yeah.
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That's courage.
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We applaud Laurel.
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You're putting yourself in the-
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Am I getting flexed on a little bit that she's yelling a few seconds before me?
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Am I doing my bad job here?
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I don't know if it's getting flexed on, but maybe your reaction time isn't what
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it could be.
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Maybe I'm a little slow.
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Maybe I'm behind.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So I have a couple out of context drops to start before we get into things.
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Here's just something that I thought was really funny.
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This new book, I think, is one of the best I've ever read, Democrips and Rebleblicans.
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That's just a great sentence.
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You can't get better than that sentence.
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How could possibly, in any world, the best book you've ever read is Democrips and Reblebla.
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Also, it's Jesse Ventura's book.
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It's Democrips and Rebleblicans, but it's a problem.
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It's a bad name because you can't pronounce it.
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Because you can't pronounce it.
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Rebleblican.
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Yeah.
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Rebleblicans.
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I think it's one of the best I've ever read, Democrips and Rebleblicans.
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Rebleblicans.
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Rebleblicans.
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He can't pronounce it.
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He says it over and over.
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It's a tongue twister.
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It's a tongue twister.
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Yeah.
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I would have advised Jesse against that.
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That is not a good name for a book.
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All right.
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And then, the second out-of-context drop from today's show is a teaser for what's to come.
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As we already know, Jesse Ventura is going to be on this show.
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And this should tell you that there are dark times ahead.
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I don't want to hear about Ron Paul ever again.
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Oh no.
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Uh oh.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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Is this the beginning of the end for Alex and Ron Paul?
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Is this where it begins?
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This might have been when Ron Paul shoved ISIS up his dirty asshole.
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It could be.
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That could be what's going on.
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Is that today, huh?
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Okay.
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So, we start here where Alex begins introducing the show.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, the 13th day of September 2012, former Minnesota
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governor Jesse Ventura will be joining us to give us his take on election 2012 and beyond.
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I just wanted to put that in there as a timestamp, as if to be holding up today's newspaper.
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Yes, yes, I see.
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Alex saying that it's that day.
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I understand.
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So, we can all be sure.
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But you don't get to say 2020, so we're all feeling good about that.
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I'm Dan.
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This is 2012.
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No!
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2012.
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Yeah, you know.
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All right.
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So, here is Alex discussing what's going to be coming up.
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We got Jesse Ventura.
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We got what else?
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Also going to have open phones here, ladies and gentlemen, throughout the broadcast on
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the state of the world.
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I mean, you can call in about whatever you want, but if you don't call in about the fact
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that the globalists are trying to gear up World War III right now to cover the engineered
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financial collapse, see, they're taking over economically, but politically, they need a
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war, a global war, a multi-region war, as a political distraction to get people to rally
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behind the ongoing takeover.
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So, this is just after Benghazi, and so there's this idea that Alex has that they're trying
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to trigger wars in order to cover up for the financial collapse.
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Sure.
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It's interesting, because that seems like, yeah, that's an Alex narrative.
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That's a classic Alex.
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Yeah!
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That feels right for Alex.
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That's a good point.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because it doesn't make any sense.
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It seems like the distraction is far worse than the problem that they're trying to distract
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from.
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Maybe, but it also fits with his rogues gallery of classic villains who are all the international
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banks.
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100%.
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And stuff.
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It feels like...
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And at the end of the day, you gotta buy gold.
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It feels like, in that world of conspiracy, this makes sense.
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As opposed to now, with everybody's drinking blood, they're Dracula vampire demons.
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Man, we've come a long way.
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Yeah.
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That's something that you always end up sort of recognizing.
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If you look back a little bit, it's like, well, he's still a liar, this is still nonsense.
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Sure, of course.
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But at least this lane makes sense.
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Yes!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You can see the sort of connective tissue between this and some valid complaint about
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the world.
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Right, right, right.
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Which, you know, you could point...
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You know, there's a lot of complaints you could make about the Federal Reserve.
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Alex's particular brand of criticism is less based in reality, but there are valid complaints
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to be made.
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And you can see how you could take real world gripes and it could get morphed into Alex.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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What we have now is not that.
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It's like when you're watching a movie and you see the conspiracy theorist with his pin
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board and he's got all the little things and he's got string tied from picture to picture.
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That's interesting.
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But if you panned out a little bit and then at the top of that you've just got a big picture
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of the devil circled with, like, this is the guy, then you'd be like, okay, well, we're
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not interested in this conspiracy theorist anymore.
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It's the devil.
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True, and if you have a conspiracy board and it's only got a few pieces of yarn connecting
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things, you can kind of be like, oh, okay, I get what you're saying.
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Right.
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And the conspiracy theorist just gave you a ball of yarn and was like, it all makes
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sense.
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Like, I don't know what I'm looking at.
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The devil's in the middle.
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What?
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I don't know.
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I'm going to call it a sweaty ball of yarn.
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There's something on that ball of yarn.
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You know it's trouble.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, in 2012, also very full of himself, let's say.
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It is so good to be here with you today.
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I am so honored to be speaking to millions of my fellow humans, not just here in the
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United States, Canada, Mexico, but into Europe, Australia, and the United States.
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All over the world, from Antarctica to the Marshall Islands, people are listening to
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this worldwide transmission.
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It's interesting to hear that Alex thinks he has listeners in Antarctica.
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There are no native populations in Antarctica unless you're talking about penguins.
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The only humans who you could say, quote, live in Antarctica are the scientists who
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are there working on some of the research bases that have been set up.
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There are 66 bases in all of Antarctica, and the number of people there varies a bit by
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season.
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Sure.
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In the summer months, you might have up to about 4,000 people in Antarctica, whereas
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in the winter, that number goes down to about 1,000.
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September is squarely in Antarctica's winter months, so the number of potential listeners
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for Alex is then at its lowest point.
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There are often more tourists passing through Antarctica than there are people, quote, unquote,
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living there, but the problem there is that tourist season doesn't really kick off until
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November, and most don't even actually even advise you plan a trip until like December
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or January.
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Sure.
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Trying to plan a vacation trip during the Antarctic winter seems like a very unwise
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decision, but then again, info warriors aren't really known for being smart, so maybe Alex
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is getting a listener who's like, I'm going to go visit Antarctica during the ass end
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of their winter.
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Just one of the rogue info war scientists out there.
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Could be.
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Just like, all right, I'm studying climate change, but I don't believe in any of it,
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all right?
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I don't believe in any of this stuff.
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I'm going to get these ice cores from several hundred thousand years ago that obviously
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didn't happen.
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Earth is only 10,000 years old, of course.
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Anyways, this is a long, strange trip of mine.
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My point here is that I highly doubt that Alex has any listeners in Antarctica.
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Strongly doubt, yes.
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It seems like the indications are not good.
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At this point, Alex has a strong belief that the globalists can just like press a button
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and then jihad bombs happen all over the world.
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That's a fun button.
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Well, he believes that and here he is literally saying that.
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They can punch a button and Al Qaeda and other jihadi squads that have been allowed to operate
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in all our countries will start bombing things.
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And then that will be used to take all of our liberties.
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You see, people think it's America versus Iran or it's Europe versus Syria or no, no,
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no, no, no.
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It's global mega bankers financing all sides for conflict and bedlam so they can destroy
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once free societies.
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See, this makes sense conspiracy wise.
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Like this is the, okay, yes, the evil big bad guys are using, uh, we're in a place that
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makes sense.
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I mean, it's just basic classic false flaggery, but at least like it's not, it's not an overly
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complicated thing that involves other dimensions and demons and like all that shit.
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So like, okay.
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I mean, I still disagree with it and I still think he's basing this on next to nothing,
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but at least does the devil apply retroactively to Alex Jones's career.
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Now do we have, we have to recontextualize everything that we see in the past through
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what it eventually becomes because it must be, this has to be like lost.
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You know, there has to have been a plan from the beginning.
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That's where things get really difficult.
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Where's Mr. Echo?
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Where does this begin and where does it end?
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Yeah, because I mean the devil didn't just come into play.
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He can't possibly have been on the sidelines this whole time and then in 2018 he starts
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problems.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So obviously all this is still supposed to be the devil, which makes it difficult because
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he doesn't say that.
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He was just talking about this in terms of political intrigue and the great game of nations
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and stuff.
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And it's like, okay, I mean, our ideas are stupid and we can talk about stuff in more
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detail when, when we need to, but like at least it's great.
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It's real life shit.
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At least it's human.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not demonic.
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Yeah.
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We're not talking about, look, the Lusitania sink.
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Uh, but it's, you know, the fucking demons didn't come out from beneath the water to
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open the Bombay doors.
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He'll say that the globalists hate humans and they want to depopulate and stuff like
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that.
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But it's not like specifically at the behest of Beelzebub.
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It's like, all right, so the globalists have this terrorist button that they can press
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and then they causes trouble and then they gain power.
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Sure.
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And it's simple, man.
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Even a kid could understand this.
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And again, before I get into this news, it's a something a child can understand.
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Whenever Revenge of the Sith came out 10 years ago or whatever it is to reply.
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Not really.
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Yeah.
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I guess it was about seven, eight years ago.
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Guys look up when Revenge of the Sith came out for me.
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Episode three of the cheesy Star Wars prequels.
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Not really a fan of those films because of the fact that they have important art types
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in them.
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But how amazing is that that you condescendingly we're making fun of Alex saying that he's
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not really.
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And then he follows through with it.
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What a dick.
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He's very predictable.
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Dick.
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Even throughout the past.
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Yeah.
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So say you like Star Wars.
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You might as well.
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I like Star Wars.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So he's a senator on a little known planet who finances a group to attack his planet
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over over trade deals came out in 2005, so seven years ago.
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And then he uses that to become prominent in the Senate.
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Then he finances groups terrorists to attack the home world, what is it, Coruscant, as
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a pretext to then say that there isn't enough of an army, there isn't enough of a police
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army to stop the terrorist attacks.
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And so then he abolishes the old republic, basically using that and then hunts down,
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hunts down the old police force and wipes them out.
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Now, when when the movie came out, the media all over the place said, we don't understand
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the plot.
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We don't know what this means.
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I don't think they did.
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I think they said this plot is stupid.
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It wasn't that we were confused.
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No, I don't remember people being confused.
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I remember people being like, ugh.
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I remember people being bored.
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Very bored.
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Yeah.
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They're very boring.
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There was the whole drama about Jar Jar Binks.
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Sure.
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That was certainly a difficult period.
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Let's not forget the Trade Federation's wonderful accent work.
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Nobody was offended by that utter.
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Well, there were troubles that were not related to, what does this mean?
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I don't understand.
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What are you talking about?
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An evil man would false flag something?
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We're just media people.
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We can't understand.
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Yeah.
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I think on the basis of like, okay, getting the broad strokes of the plot, I think everyone
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really could handle it.
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You know the bad guy.
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He's doing evil shit.
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He's also a magical Sith Lord.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting, too, that Alex brings up this whole, you know, the prequels and stuff.
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First of all, fucking loves prequels.
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He's not a fan of Star Wars.
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But I noticed something else, and that was like, when he comes in from commercial break,
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he plays this.
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You are either with the Republic or against it.
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One of the big points about the turn of Darth Vader is him thinking in absolutes.
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Obi-Wan tells him only a Sith thinks in absolutes.
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Sure, sure.
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So Alex has to have seen that movie and seen that point, and he still thinks there's like,
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and even one of Alex's real-world bad guys, George Bush, George W. Bush, you're with us
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or you're with a terrorist.
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These thinking in absolute ideas are traditionally viewed through the prism of that being limited,
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and that being a bad way to approach things, yet Alex still thinks, I don't know.
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But he likes the bad guys.
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He doesn't.
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He does like the bad guys.
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He's a bigger fan of the bad guys than he is the good guys.
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He kind of does.
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So Alex believes that this whole thing in Star Wars is an allegory for 9-11.
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And he believes that George Lucas did interviews where he was basically a 9-11 truther.
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And George Lucas did interviews from the Cannes Film Festival and others, and he said, what
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do you mean you can't get it?
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Criminal elements in the government are staging terror attacks as a pretext to take over society
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just like we're seeing today.
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So he basically is a 9-11 truther, George Lucas.
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Love him or hate him, that's what he said.
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He said, just like we're seeing today.
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He said at the Cannes Film Festival, go look it up, it was all over the news.
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And the news still played dumb and said, we don't know what this means, but children knew.
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We don't get it.
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So here's a clip of that George Lucas interview that Alex is talking about.
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American politics has always been behind these films.
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People have read in, from the very beginning they read in the relationship between the
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US and the Soviet Union, Watergate.
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Now in this episode, without quite being Michael Moore, it is very political.
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There are references to have we become what we feared.
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There are references to the state of the republic.
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How intentional was that for you?
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Well, the story, the political back story was written 30 years ago.
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It was written during the Vietnam War and in the Richard Nixon era.
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I didn't want to do a movie about how people take over democracy, I wanted to figure out
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how democracies give themselves over to tyrants.
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And after the Roman Senate killed Caesar, why did they turn the whole thing over to
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his nephew?
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Here's an interesting thing about democracy is if you don't treat it well, if you don't
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do your job, especially if you're a representative in the Senate or the parliament or whatever,
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you know, the whole thing can go awry because if you're always bickering and not agreeing
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on things and doing the people's work who elected you, a tyrant will come in and take
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over and do it for you because the people want to get the job done and they will tend
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to go where the person who's got the most leadership is.
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It seems like a warning about Trump.
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Yeah, that's not wrong, that's not wrong.
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I don't know if George Lucas was going around Cannes Film Festival yelling, they're false
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flagging everybody!
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Don't you get it?
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My film shows this!
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I'm pretty sure that that level-headed response to a question was actually him secretly screaming
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on the inside, Bush did 9-11.
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Alex can see through the bullshit, man.
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I think all of those words that he said, if you take the first letter of each of them,
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it spells out G.W. Bush did 9-11.
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I'm pretty sure that's how that worked.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's very clever, that George Lucas.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has, you know, obviously there's some feelings about Benghazi and there's some feelings
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about various protests that are happening in the Middle East and countries like Yemen
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and Egypt and it's interesting because at this point it's pretty soon after the actual
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attack on Benghazi and so there isn't a developed narrative.
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There isn't a lot of like, Clinton lied, people died, that kind of thing.
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There's no...
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Yeah.
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And so at this point, all Alex has to go on really is discussing what is said to be the
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inciting event of this, which is that movie that the trailer had come out of called Innocence
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of Muslims.
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And so Alex has some ideas about this, he thinks it's a false flag.
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Okay.
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It's meant to get out of hand and now you've got this movie, there probably isn't even
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a movie, Paul Watson's got an article on it, it's just a trailer, just like, what was it,
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five years ago?
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They had the Prophet Muhammad cartoons and all these neocon-controlled newspapers in
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Europe ran it to antagonize the Muslims and sure, it's wrong that some of the Muslims
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can't deal with free speech.
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What?
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That's not a debate I'm having, the point is it was meant to antagonize, it was artificially
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done and now they're doing it again.
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So this film that Alex is referring to, like I said, it's called Innocence of Muslims,
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and although Alex is wrong about just about everything else, he's absolutely right that
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that film was an intentional attempt to anger Muslims.
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Oh, okay.
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It was not the globalists who made it though, or the CIA, or whoever he wants to assign
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blame to.
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It was Rob Do.
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No.
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The credit goes to an Egyptian Coptic Christian named Nakula Basile Nakula.
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Nakula claimed that he was trying to make a film called Desert Warrior, which was presented
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as a sort of past dystopian action-war adventure movie.
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In the process of shooting this film, Nakula captured footage of actors that he then re-edited
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and imagined as being figures from Islamic history through voiceovers.
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The people acting in the film had no idea that they would be used this way and many
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were pretty offended.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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There were outbreaks of protests in countries like Yemen and Egypt, kind of understandably,
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after the trailer for this came out, because of its quite negative portrayal of Mohammed
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and Muslims in general.
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Initially, the attack on Benghazi was associated with the release of the trailer for this film,
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but subsequent investigations have called that theory into question.
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Nakula, the director of Innocence of Muslims, apparently had a pretty extensive criminal
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history.
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He was arrested in 1997 with possession of materials used to cook methamphetamines and
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$45,000 in a paper bag.
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He was charged with intent to manufacture methamphetamines.
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Ah, well, you don't know what that $45,000 was for.
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He pled guilty and was sentenced to a year in jail and a bit of probation, which he would
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go on to violate in 2002 and get another year in prison.
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Then in 2010, he, quote, pleaded no contest to federal bank fraud charges after being
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indicted in a somewhat intricate scheme involving fake bank accounts created using stolen Social
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Security numbers.
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That one netted him 21 months in jail and fines amounting to about $790,000.
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Damn!
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That's a lot of paper bags.
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Yeah, it is.
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Anyway, when he got out of prison, he started working on the next scam, which was to defraud
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actors into being in a film called Desert Warrior, which he would then re-edit to be
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a movie that's specifically designed to anger Muslims.
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Unfortunately, he tried to direct the film using an alias, Sam Basile.
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Given that his most recent felony conviction had to do with using aliases to commit bank
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accounts, one of the conditions of supervised release for him was that he couldn't use
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aliases, which he definitely did in the making of this movie.
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One job!
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You've got one rule.
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You just gotta put your name on the film, and you just can't do it.
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Can't do it.
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Can't do it.
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So in late September 2012, Nakula was arrested again on eight charges of probation violations.
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He reached a plea agreement where four of these violations were dropped, and then he
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went back to prison for a year on the others.
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None of the probation violations had to do with the content of the film that he made,
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it was just the fraud that he used in order to make it.
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Anyway, this movie was not the work of the globalists, it was an extreme anti-Islam agitator
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with a rich history of felonies and frauds who did it, and Alex is pretending that it
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was a false flag by the globalists in order to anger Muslims into causing violence in
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foreign countries in order to justify crackdowns or whatever.
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No, it was just a dude who hates Muslims.
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It was just a guy who has a history of fraudulent behavior instigating shit against Muslims,
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which I think Alex knows a lot of guys like that.
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Perhaps almost exclusively guys like that.
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He might not have known nearly as many in 2012, though.
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Possible.
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It does seem like he does not hate, and especially doesn't seem to think that Islam is a uniform
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thing in 2012.
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Interesting.
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He talks about Shia-Sunni distinctions.
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Oh, that's right!
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I remember he did used to know about those differences.
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And he does a bit on this episode, too.
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Fascinating.
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He talks about, like, oh, you're saying Al-Qaeda's working with Iran, that's nonsense, and that
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kind of thing.
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Really?
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's wild.
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He has at least some awareness of stuff that he doesn't in the present.
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Yeah.
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Conveniently.
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Sure.
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So, this movie was made to antagonize, and that's correct, but Alex is wrong, again,
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about everything else.
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Is Muhammad movie a contrived fraud?
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I've looked at it, yes.
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I mean, the way they promote it going, rich Jews gave us five million to make this.
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The way the press release is written, the way no one knows who's behind it, it's meant
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to antagonize the Muslims.
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So the claims that the film was financed by wealthy Jews came directly from Sam Basile,
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which again, is the alias that Nakula used in order to create the movie.
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Okay, so this guy is a real shitster.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay.
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According to Hype Up the Film, Nakula had claimed that he wasn't Israeli, and that he'd
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received five million dollars from quote, wealthy Jewish friends in order to make the
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film.
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But of course, that was all bullshit, and it's more lies coming from a guy whose chief
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occupation seems to be lying.
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Subsequent investigations uncovered that the film cost between 50 and 60 thousand dollars,
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and that he'd received the money to make it from his wife's family who live in Egypt.
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I wonder how they feel about the whole situation.
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Probably not great now.
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Probably not good now.
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Nakula is taking at face value the claims of a con man, which he's then using to establish
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his own conspiracy theory about the film that the con man was trying to make.
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That's the fucking story of 2020 right there.
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Man.
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That's how we live now.
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It's a nesting doll of bullshit.
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Yeah, he takes the lies of a con man who happens to be the president, and packages them into
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his own bullshit to resell, and then that sells back to the president, and it creates
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a nice little fun feedback loop where we all die at the end.
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It's very annoying.
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It's great.
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Alex believes that the CIA made this, and he's like, man, it's just a shame that these
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Muslims are taking the bait.
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It's meant to antagonize, you know, kind of their wild redneck version of Muslims to go
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out and say, you're not going to insult my God.
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I mean, it is pure manipulation, and the Muslims are taking the bait 110 percent.
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Why doesn't Alex ever have this perspective when it comes to like the Satan temple trying
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to put up a monument somewhere?
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Oh, because that's the devil.
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Right.
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But you've got to fight the devil head on, Dan.
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You can't give the devil an inch.
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Right.
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He thinks that the Muslims are getting tricked because something sacrilegious to them is
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being demonstrated.
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Right.
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Yeah, they're falling for it.
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They're taking the bait.
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They're falling for that.
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Agent provocateurs.
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It's the Satanist temple when they are actually-
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That's because that's Satan, Dan.
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When the Satanist temple is actually fucking with you.
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No, that's Satan.
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He's tricking you by thinking that you'll be tricked into thinking that he's fucking
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with you when this is actually a serious plan, Dan.
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Right.
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I think that the goal of all this sort of thing is generally to make it look like any
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complaint that's being levied by groups that Alex doesn't like is invalid.
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They're all being tricked into doing it by this evil group that Alex fights against.
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Yeah, he's removing agency from his enemies.
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They're, again, not people in just a different way.
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Yeah.
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In a way for him to recontextualize what he experiences as hate, but he doesn't want other
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people to.
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Of course.
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So, again, just to make it totally clear, he thinks that this is the CIA.
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I mean, they're calling this, this was made with $5 million by rich Jews.
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You could just see MI6, CIA, Mossad, I mean, I'm sure they were all involved in the production.
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It may even be an outside merc group just laughing, here, how do we stir these people
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up?
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I mean, we got $5 million from rich Jews.
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Meanwhile, they shot this on a blue screen, you know, on the back acres at Langley, Virginia.
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I mean, this is such a low-budget piece of junk, $5 million my foot.
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I mean, sure.
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I mean, $5 million is a very exaggerated budget for this film to have had, but just baseless,
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baseless wild accusations and claims that the CIA did this in Langley.
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Nonsense.
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All right.
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Now, as a character, do we have anybody here who can make a really, really terrible film
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that will piss off Muslims?
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No?
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We got to call Blackwater, then.
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Yeah.
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We need to hire an outside merc group in order to make our propaganda films.
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Nonsense.
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That sounds right.
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So the problem is, you know, Americans are so dumb now.
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They're dumb because we've been dumbed down because of TV.
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Sure.
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TV is confusing people.
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Wow, that's fair.
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This is where, Alex, really, this falls apart pretty quick.
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I've seen jaywalking episodes where people can't even find the U.S. on a world map that
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doesn't have the name on it.
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I mean, I mean, it is a joke.
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It is a joke what this country's turned into, and it's television.
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You turn on television, all of it is a destructive message.
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The new normal.
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And people are like, oh, don't you be anti-alternative lifestyle.
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That isn't even on my radar screen.
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But you know what?
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My kids can't watch television because you want to confuse them.
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Every time I turn the television on at night to see what's on, it's anti-male, anti-family,
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pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-big government.
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They're to screw people up, trying to make sure that people get confused, trying to make
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sure.
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And what did the government documents, Club of Rome and others said?
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They said they would promote homosexuality and all this and end the family so no one
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had families to stand together.
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It seems like you're trying to make this a really broad, the media's tricking everybody
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and stuff, but your focused complaint seems to be on you don't want your kids seeing people
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who are LGBTQ and seeing them as normal people.
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You don't want to see depictions of them as anything other than like...
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Every time I turn on the TV, I see non-straight white males, and I don't understand why this
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is happening.
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I watch football, but only from before 1964.
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That's how I do it.
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That's the only way.
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It seems like this is a real interesting, I'm being facetious.
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It's not interesting at all, but ambitious, it's not really ambitious, but it's an attempt
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to masquerade what is just like your discomfort with depictions of people who you are uncomfortable
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with.
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You're like, oh no, it's a bigger issue than that.
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Yeah, it is annoying to hear arguments from fucking the late 1960s about how television's
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going to ruin us all, repackage, just so you don't want to see a gay person.
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You don't want to watch the new normal.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So anyway, but Alex doesn't hate people for being gay or anything, I mean, come on.
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I don't sit there and hate you because of what you do sexually.
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I am angry at the globalist for going in and trying to program you and putting chemicals
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in your food that in thousands of studies cause every mammal species to become bisexual.
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Look, I don't hate you for being gay.
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I mad at the globalist for making you gay.
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I don't hate you for being gay.
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I just can't acknowledge that there's any possibility you're a legitimate person and
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not the creation of my ultimate enemy.
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Right?
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What is, what do you not understand?
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It's not about you, which is an attack on my very masculinity and the structure of the
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family.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't get it.
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Look, I don't hate you for being gay.
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I just refuse to believe that anyone is actually gay if they would just eat real food and not
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watch TV.
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Right?
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Duh.
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It's not that I hate you.
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It's that I don't think you're a person.
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I just think you're entirely invalid.
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I have the ability to make choices about my own life and you don't and that's why I hate
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the globalists and also you should be wiped off the face of the earth, but that's their
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fault.
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We got to restart and you got to go and we just got, it's cause of them.
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It's a really strange, like, I mean that clip is only like 20 seconds long, but it's like,
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I don't, I don't hate you for what you do sexually, but you're not a human being.
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Your choices are basically just a automaton.
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You're a gay bot.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You've had a computer chip put into the base of your neck and now you're gay.
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Why don't you understand that this is not your fault?
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Very weird.
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Very weird, Alex.
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Uh, interesting line.
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So Alex teases some news that's going to be coming up.
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He's got some special reports and I got to say this, this is really fascinating to me.
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We're not going to listen to any of it because it's boring as shit.
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The field pieces that he has, he plays two of them.
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They are so much more like local news than the stuff now is just like, yeah, Caitlin
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Bennett or, or, uh, before she was gone, Millie Weaver going out and antagonizing people and
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then like, oh, they threw something at me.
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Why are all liberals stupid?
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Why are you throwing things at me?
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Yeah.
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Right, right.
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It's like that.
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And you know, like I think, I think part of that, um, I don't know if it happened after
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Owen Schroyer came around, but Owen Schroyer before he got hired was like making videos
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of himself going to protests and yelling at people.
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Sure.
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And I think some of that might've rubbed off and like, I also think that that is what draws
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a lot of clicks.
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I think that there was a lot of people who were like, this is more entertaining than
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let's say Ja'Carri Jackson going out and actually getting sound of interviews on the street.
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It was shocking to me the, uh, the field pieces actually having like interviews with people
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on the street and like sound clips of, of, yeah, it was, it was weird.
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They're boring.
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Fascinating.
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But, uh, one of them has to do with our buddy, Dr. Ron Paul.
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Now coming up later in the broadcast, we have a special report.
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Is Ron Paul going to run for governor of Texas?
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Our very own reporter, David Ortiz is going to be investigating that.
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It's not big poppy.
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It's different David Ortiz.
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I knew it wasn't him.
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I knew it wasn't him.
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Turns out Ron Paul, not going to run for governor.
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He was still hitting 30 plus home runs a year at 2012.
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Right.
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So we have another, another report that Alex probably wants to pretend didn't happen.
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And Dan Badandi goes out and talks to Americans on the streets of Austin about their knowledge
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of the constitution.
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All of that will air here on the broadcast today.
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I didn't hear that one, but I imagine it's not nearly as professional.
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The Kraken going out to, uh, asking people about the constitution.
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Yeah.
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What do you know about the constitution?
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I don't know.
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What do you know about the constitution?
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I'm going to power bomb you.
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I plead the fifth.
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This is a question for you.
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I'm not going to answer that question.
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So Alex said at the beginning of this, that he was going to take calls, man, open phones.
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Sure.
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And he did tease around a couple of times that he wants calls about his world war scenario
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that he's playing out.
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But he also said at the beginning, you can call in about whatever you want.
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Yeah.
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But I would prefer veiled threatening kind of definitely say you can call in about whatever
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you want.
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Open phone.
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So here's the first call in Maine.
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You're on the air.
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Tim.
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Welcome.
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How you doing Alex?
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Uh, first I'd like to say I'm a big fan.
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I really enjoy your show and I have a suggestion, an idea, uh, that, uh, Ron Paul shouldn't
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run for governor.
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We should do a writing campaign.
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You your listeners, everybody we can get in touch with, uh, just write Ron Paul's name
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in and nothing else.
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If we can't get him as president, it'll show him that we're not stupid.
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We don't want to want your choices anymore.
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We want our choices.
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Not here yet.
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Listen.
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Uh, did you hear me ask callers what their take is on the attempt to start world war
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three?
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I did not.
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Okay.
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I appreciate your call.
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I appreciate that.
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Again, we don't screen your calls, but sometimes I say, Hey, we're opening the phones up.
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I said like five times, what's your take on the situation in the middle East?
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Alex does not seem to want to talk about Ron Paul.
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It doesn't seem like it.
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That's weird for me because I've listened to his episodes after 2012 and he's loved
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Ron Paul.
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I've listened to episodes in 2008 and 2012 during the primaries and the election season
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or he's gung ho on Ron Paul.
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I know that before he loved Trump, he was pushing for Rand Paul in the 2016 election.
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Indeed.
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It seems very strange to me.
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He's close with the whole, with the whole Paul family.
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It's very weird to me that he doesn't want to talk about Ron Paul and I, thankfully he
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doesn't let that be a mystery.
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Okay, good.
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Alex spends a lot of time complaining about Ron Paul on this episode.
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I'm going to go back to your calls.
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I'm not mad at the caller since you bring it up.
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Let's just digress now.
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Hell, we know nobody's going to call in about World War Three anyways, nobody cares about
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that.
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Here's the deal.
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I initially, whenever Rand Paul endorsed Romney, enthusiastically got really upset and it was
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because I'd watched Jesse Benton behind the scenes, not go after Romney.
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And that's now been admitted by Doug Weed, you know, top of the campaign that that was
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Jesse Benton's decision.
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Jesse Benton can hardly talk folks, I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that, I mean,
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he's not that smart.
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It's interesting.
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So we've got this Jesse Benton guy who worked on Ron Paul's campaign, who Alex seems to
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be very mad at.
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Hates him.
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Hates him.
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Um, and, and Alex is, it's his standard thing.
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Like this person can't even talk, can't even barely talk.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's everybody he hates.
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That's what he says about them.
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Right.
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Well, I mean, that's what he said about Hillary.
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That's what he says about Biden.
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Sure.
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I mean, his job, the only way he can measure success, I imagine is by his own ability.
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So he can talk for three hours unabated.
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I imagine that's, that's like, that would be your measuring stick, you know?
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Yeah.
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He can only talk an hour on my show is like, you're, you're 33% as good as me.
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I don't know.
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That's weird.
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That is super weird.
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It's just, it's, it seems like a guy who's got like one pitch.
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Sure.
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One pitch and it's, I can't talk.
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Yeah.
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Can't talk.
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He's dumb.
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Can't make fun of your face.
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Make fun of your talking.
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Can't just like, he has bad ideas.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Jesse Benton was working on the Paul's campaigns and he's run a foul of Alex somehow.
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And this means Alex is done with the fucking Paul's man.
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Really?
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I've just got to be honest about this.
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I'm done talking about Ron Paul.
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I'm done talking about any of it.
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I still think they're good guys overall.
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I think, you know, Rand's doing some good work in the Senate overall.
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But if people call in about Ron Paul, you're not going to get the responses you've got
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from me in the past.
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Okay.
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I just, you don't want to go there with me.
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Okay.
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Because I know too much.
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He knows too much.
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About what?
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This time.
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This time.
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Well, yeah, but you've always known too much.
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What is it?
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Yup.
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I, I, this is, this is that, uh, things like, yeah, they're good.
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You know, they're fine people, but it's not the same.
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It'll never be the same as it once was, and it is the same, later.
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Of course.
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This is very weird.
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He's just mad at this Jesse Benton guy.
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Yeah.
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Why is Paul involved with this?
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I mean, I guess they hired him, but he's mad at everybody that anybody he likes hires,
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because none of the people that he likes actually do the stuff that he thinks that they're going
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to do.
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Right.
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So he blames everybody that works for them without ever realizing that those two, those
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are one and the same, and that it's a pattern that happens all the time.
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No, and one thing that's actually kind of interesting about this 2012 version of Alex
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is that, like, he does wrestle with, like, I'm mad at this Jesse Benton.
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I think he's a piece of shit, but I can't morally just blame him.
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That's on Ron Paul too.
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Like, he, he's going along with Benton.
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All right.
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And so, like, I'm deeply suspicious.
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Something's up.
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Well, especially considering we know, because it's 2020 as we're recording this, that, like,
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Alex does not continue to hate- He can't even, he can't even control that
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kind of feeling, that, that, like, that ability to be introspective about whether or not you
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can support someone who hires people that you don't like.
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Jesse Benton, though, is a villain.
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Okay.
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See, I already said mean things about Jesse Benton.
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He doesn't matter.
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I said two weeks ago, you watch, he's going to go work for the mainline Republican party,
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because I knew that from inside.
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Okay.
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And now it's all over the news today that he's going to work for Mitch McConnell.
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So Jesse Benton did go on to work for Mitch McConnell, and that-
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I mean, fuck Jesse Benton, for sure.
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But then, you know, kind of, there was a problem when he got convicted of, quote, arranging
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for money to be funneled through a vendor to an influential Iowa state senator who dropped
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his support for another Republican candidate in favor of Ron Paul.
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There was a whole thing where Michelle Bachman had support from this state senator in Iowa,
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and there was some monies that might have gone to him, and it looked like he got paid
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to support Ron Paul.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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That's not something I'm going to go down for.
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I'm not going to go down for trying to get Ron Paul anywhere.
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Guess what?
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Guess what?
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Jesse Benton did.
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Why would you do that?
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So while serving as McConnell's campaign manager, Benton had a bit of chaos unrelated to felonies,
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though.
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There was a recording of him that got released where he was discussing how he had to, quote,
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hold his nose for two years while working for McConnell in order to help ran Paul's
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chances in 2016.
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This tape was dubbed Nosegate, or Nosewater, and it became part of a campaign to attack
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McConnell as not a true conservative in the 2014 GOP primary.
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That was clearly an effective strategy, and we haven't heard anything about Mitch McConnell
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since.
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Yeah, especially not from his conservative bona fides.
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No.
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No.
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The involvement of Jesse Benton in McConnell's campaign apparatus is seen by many as a crucial
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element in creating a bit of an alliance between Mitch McConnell's mainstream GOP and the nutty
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grassroots Tea Party followers of the Paul family.
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Without whatever machinations probably took place behind the scenes, there's a decent
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chance that McConnell would not be in office right now because he would have lost the support
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of the Tea Party-esque folks that Jesse Benton helped bring along.
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Do you know what it is?
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It's a lot like, to me, like when a cop is caught planting evidence and then every case
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that the cop worked on then has to be reexamined through the justice system.
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Like if your campaign manager goes to jail, all campaigns should have to be like, let's
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find out where the-
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I don't think he actually went to jail.
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Okay, fine.
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But I get your point.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You can't just like wave your hands away and be like, hey, you know, you got away with
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that one.
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No.
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If he committed a crime for his state center for Ron Paul's failed campaign-
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For the primaries.
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Yeah, exactly.
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To get support away from Michelle Bachmann.
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Do you think this guy is not going to cheat for the big times?
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Come on.
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Well, also I should tell you this, I don't know if this makes you feel any differently,
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but Jesse Benton is technically Ron Paul's grandson since he's married to Ron Paul's
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granddaughter.
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Okay, great.
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So he's a family.
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Sure.
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Fine.
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And just because this shit is always fun, in March 2016, it was announced that the Great
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America PAC, a major Trump super PAC, had hired Jesse Benton as their chief strategist.
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In an article about the hire, Doug Weed, who Alex already referenced earlier as a bigwig
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in the Paul campaign said, quote, I think Jesse is one of the best political minds in
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the country.
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He understands the cross section of the insurgent outsider and the political establishment.
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Then in October 2016, Jesse Benton was caught in a sting operation agreeing to launder $2
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million in donations from a fake Chinese national donor through his consulting company, ultimately
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with the money going to support Trump.
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It is too easy to trap these people.
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Do you know what it is?
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This is evidence that the whole fucking apparatus is geared towards protecting conservatives
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with a lot of money.
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Because it feels like so far, based on every investigation that we've seen that has actually
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taken down like a right wing operative, they have been filled with comical errors where
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the guys just have to be like, okay, well, we're going to press record.
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And then they're like, we love committing crimes.
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I'm going to commit this crime.
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You want to give me them?
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We'll take that $2 million?
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It's legal money.
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Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
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It's too easy.
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Just put your record button on your phone.
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Every time you go see one of these guys, you'll hear them commit a crime.
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Does seem like this dude has done a bit.
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So Alex hates Jesse Benton because Jesse's actually involved in shit.
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Benton's an asshole and a criminal, but he's actually in the mix in a way that Alex can
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only pretend to be.
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Jesse was in the Paul campaigns.
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He worked to merge the mainline GOP and the Tea Party, and he was willing to commit crimes.
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To support Trump and Ron Paul's campaign.
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Very, very, very well.
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Alex hates him because he's the real deal.
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Very willing to commit crimes.
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Yep.
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Oh boy.
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But he did one thing that Alex cannot forgive.
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You know, we've seen the video of it, Paul Fest, that was snubbed by the Pauls and everybody.
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We've seen the footage where Peter Schiff shows people the text from Jesse Benton saying
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don't go to Paul Fest, it's extremist.
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And that's what I can't handle.
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It's one thing if the Pauls kind of get married off of the Republican establishment and try
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to influence it towards libertarianism and freedom in some way.
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I get all that to a certain extent.
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You can debate it either way.
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But Jesse Benton talking and acting like Southern Poverty Law Center or ADL and the things I've
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known have gone on behind the scenes the last few years and all the things that happened.
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It's just very sad to see, after all this great work Ron Paul's done and that we've
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done supporting him, patriots out there, to just kind of see Campaign for Liberty and
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the whole political list of donors, because I now get solicitations from neocons.
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The list is out there.
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This is what it's actually about.
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But it's interesting because I don't know if this Jesse Benton told Ron Paul that Paul
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Fest is full of extremists or whatever, but if I were in Benton's position and I viewed
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myself as a competent strategist, I would say do not go there.
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Hey buddy, that place is filled with extremists.
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I wouldn't say extremists necessarily, but I'd be like, hey, that looks bad.
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Don't go to that.
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I watched a video of a rapper at Paul Fest rapping in a giant room that is maybe one
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eighth full and he's wearing an American flag t-shirt and it's embarrassing.
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I don't think it would serve Ron Paul's interests, even if he's not running for president anymore.
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I still think it would look bad.
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I would advise him against going to that as well.
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I would advise everybody against going against that.
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Unless you're going on some kind of Hunter S. Thompson-esque, like you're doing a bunch
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of drugs and reporting on the soul of Paul Fest.
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You might lose this one, though.
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You might not wake up after this one.
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So Alex, it comes down to, he believes that Jesse Benton is being brought into the McConnell
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campaign because he has the donor list from the Paul campaign, and that very well may
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be the case.
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Alex got a text for money and he didn't like it because it wasn't...
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Probably.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, there is some reality to stuff like this.
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I don't know how much it permeates the world of higher politics in this way, but I do know
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that from working as a producer of shows here in Chicago, that people who produce shows
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would cultivate email lists that they would be able to use to promote their shows and
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things like that, and those were highly valued commodities.
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People would talk about other producers who had giant lists that they put together, and
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it is something that has capital in...
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Oh no, the Sanders mailing list after he dropped out in 2016 was incredibly valuable to Hillary
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and them.
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Now, the extent to which one person has control over it, I don't know, but the idea that McConnell
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would bring in Jesse Benton, saying it's just for this list seems reductive, but what Alex
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is trying to actually say, which is he wants you, that McConnell wants your support, and
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he's selling you, Benton's selling you to McConnell or whatever.
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There's kind of a spiritual truth to that a little bit, and I think Alex resents that.
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I think he takes it very personally because he owns Ron Paul, goddammit.
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Ron Paul has said that his money bombs, most of the support is from Info Wars people.
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Alex made Ron Paul.
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Wayne Paul was in a documentary that Alex put out, so I think that he's taking this
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really, really personally.
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I can see that.
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Mitch McConnell hires Ron Paul aid to run his campaign.
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We're committed to running a presidential level campaign in Kentucky, and that starts
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with a presidential campaign manager.
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McConnell said in a statement, Jesse is literally the best in the business at building an organization,
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conservative grassroots movement.
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No, he's not.
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He's the best at going on my show and other libertarian and constitutional shows and getting
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our money and our support.
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And now he's taking that list over to the Republican Party and Mitch McConnell.
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That's what went on.
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Now I'm done talking about this, and I'm not going to talk about Ron Paul anymore.
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When people call him with stars in their eyes, I'm about to throw up on the radio, okay?
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So just please don't do it.
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Don't do it.
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In fact, I know a lot more folks, and I'm not going there.
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Ron Paul shoves ISIS up your dirty asshole.
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Jesus.
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Tell me what you know.
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Ron Paul shoves Mitch McConnell up your dirty asshole.
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Right?
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What are you doing?
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What are you doing?
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If he was drunk, that's how this would sound, probably.
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Yeah, it is nice to see he's still professional back then to the point where he's mad, but
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he's not throwing a drunk tantrum.
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Right.
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This can come off as like, I mean, if you look at it and you think about it a little
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bit, it is a little bit petty.
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Yeah.
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But at the same time, the pettiness has underpinnings of some ideological something to it, some
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betrayal.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I agree with him.
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There's a part of me that's like, you understand how these people work, right?
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You know, like this guy's job is to sell your information to many different people, any
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of whom might buy it or not.
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He doesn't care.
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It's his job.
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He's not going to run a campaign for Mitch McConnell or he's going to run a campaign
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for Ron Paul.
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He doesn't give a shit.
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And we know from Nosegate that this dude, Jesse Benton, even when he was working for
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McConnell was privately indicating that he thought it was the best thing to do to help
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Rand Paul in 2016.
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He's Ron Paul's grandson.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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This guy's still on the team, man.
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Yeah.
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There's an argument that could be made that Alex is taking like an incredibly narrow view
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of this, but which is something that people don't say about Alex, but it's just really
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funny to hear him say stuff like this.
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The Paul's got starstruck.
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Ron Paul got old, whatever.
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They sailed off in the sunset and they're hooked up with the Republican Party.
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And Jesse Benton is a genius.
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And I'm an extremist.
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OK.
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And you're an extremist.
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And all those families at Paul Fester scum.
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I'm going to stand with those families, OK?
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OK.
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That's who I'm with.
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I'm with the American people, not with Mitch McConnell.
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We'll be right back.
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I'm not going to crawl up his rear end.
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You will.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's going to be a long crawl.
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You're going to get all the way up there.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Huh.
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It's interesting because like what Alex is talking about is like, I'm with these Ron
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Paul families and all this stuff.
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I'm not with the GOP.
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But because of the work that people like Jesse Benton did and the people who worked to merge
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the GOP and the fringe Tea Party stuff, that is the work, the hard work that enabled Alex
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to now pretend that he's not doing that.
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His fringe weirdos have taken over the GOP.
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So that's one of those ways in which I'm like, Alex hates the guy who's doing the thing that
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he pretends to do.
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He doesn't like the long game.
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The long game is very hard and it involves plans and like all kinds of things.
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It's funny how brilliant he sees the globalists are and how their plans are infinitely long
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and thousands of years and obviously the devil is running them and all this stuff.
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But anybody on his team who has a plan that lasts longer than like scream for a bit, he's
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like, no.
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Yeah.
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I hate you.
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Yup.
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Oh, boy.
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So, Alex, like, I mean, I think that he's making some fair critiques of the polls.
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One of them is that they pretended to be more serious about their chances in order to make
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money.
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That's fair.
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But if somebody I don't know does me wrong, it's not personal.
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I don't get upset.
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That's just life.
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When we've worked and been passionate and defended and done so much for someone and
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to watch them really turn their back on the liberty movement.
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But rope a dope, keep everybody going along like he was going to be president when Rand
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was already announcing, you know, five months ago that it was a done deal.
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Last time he was on this show that, you know, that, you know, things had already been decided.
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It was it was all just an exercise in capitalizing on a political list and raising money.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Buddy.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Man, it's weird to realize that I was more jaded eight years ago than Alex was towards
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the political process.
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Somehow I was like, oh, man, we got Obama in.
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And then a year later, I was like, oh, shit, this whole thing is a lie.
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Everyone's full of shit.
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He's not going to do fuck all.
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Tim Geithner, all that shit.
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And even if everything isn't a lie, there are still just sort of realities of intricacies
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and complicated ways in which things can be done that maybe you can't capture in a campaign.
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There's disappointments that aren't necessarily deceit.
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Yeah.
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Alex is realizing that Ron Paul was fundraising.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Good work, buddy.
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So he doesn't want really thought Andrew Yang had a chance to be the Democratic nominee.
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I think he really had the chance.
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So he doesn't want out Ron on the show anymore.
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Oh, sure.
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So the Ron Paul revolution had to get derailed to a great extent because some punk married
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Ron Paul's granddaughter.
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I'm done.
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Don't call my show folks about Ron Paul.
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I don't ever want to hear about him again.
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OK, we don't ask him on the show.
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We don't want him on the show.
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Go hang out, hang out with your Republicans, because Ron Paul, I know you know about all
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this.
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I don't want just I'm done.
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You don't want us.
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We don't want you.
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We don't need you.
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Oh, boy.
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It's so petulant.
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It's a whiny little baby.
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It's really annoying.
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You want to play with Jesse Benton?
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You know what?
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I'm done with you.
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I'll never do anything for you again except for support you in your and every presidential
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campaign for the rest of my life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Rand Paul is going to get some buckshot here, too.
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You know, Rand Paul would talk about the Bilderberg group on my show.
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Now when he's asked about it, he won't talk about it because he has parties with Bilderberg
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members like Peter Thiel.
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And OK, all right, I get it, that guy says he's a libertarian, so when billions of bucks
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comes along, people tend to want to be nice to him.
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But it's just like, I don't want to go there.
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I have bigger things to discuss, like Trump's connections with Peter Thiel.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Don't worry about it.
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Don't worry about it.
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I can't imagine being where Alex is right now and having somebody like play him an episode
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from back then.
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Yeah, it's parody.
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And not having like, if it was me, I would listen to myself talk and either like have
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a complete meltdown or be like, you know what?
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I liked that guy way more.
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Sure.
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I'm going to go do that guy again.
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Fuck me.
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I would have to be like, I would need a redoubt.
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I'd need a like an island fortress to flee to after hearing these old things of myself.
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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What have I become?
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So Alex gets around to having Jesse on and Mike down for this because it's very, very
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familiar how this begins.
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And then we'll also get into his take on the new world order being announced openly.
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We're going to play some clips of the news, saying that and get his take on 2012 and all
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this hubbub.
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Jesse, great to have you back with us.
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We just had him and I think we lost him.
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Go ahead and get him back on.
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That phone line's been dropping.
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Go ahead and get him back on.
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That was a, that was a good buildup and then not have the guests there.
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These phone lines are weird.
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Sure are.
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Sure are weird.
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How many years can you handle that many phone mishaps?
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Eight years of just constant like...
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Nonstop.
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Well, no way to fix this.
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Well, I guess we'll just have to cross our fingers and hope it works tomorrow.
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I got to say, I mean like this is one of the only shows where this is such a constant problem.
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Nonstop.
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Nonstop broadcasts seem to have these kinds of things ironed out fairly well, particularly
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with like guests who maybe used to be the governor of a state.
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You know, and it's noticeable whenever somebody with a professional show has a call drop.
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Everybody like the whole show kind of halts.
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Everybody's like, oh no, this is a nightmare.
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Not like, well, this is a, this is Wednesday.
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This is the third time we've had this happen.
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Yes, the phones are weird near MSNBC.
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It doesn't anger him nearly as much at this point though.
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Oh, that's true.
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But I mean...
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Oh, it doesn't have eight years to build up on it.
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Exactly.
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So Jesse comes on and I've noticed this thing and I mean it shouldn't be too surprising
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since he, you know, thinks talking to Alex is a good idea, but I end up losing respect
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for Jesse every time I hear him.
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Like I think he's one of these guys who benefits from people having a picture of him in their
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head.
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Not based on reality.
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No, no, no.
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Like if you just think that he's a guy who likes weed and doesn't like spying and thinks
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that both parties suck.
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If you just think that, then you could be like, yeah, fuck yeah, Ventura.
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Yeah.
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You didn't like special interests when you were the governor.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You were great in predator or whatever.
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Yeah.
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We all love Adomian's impression of you.
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Love it.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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But then when you start to get into like more specifics and you're like, oh wait, you suck.
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And there's where I stand with Ron Paul completely.
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We need to cut off foreign aid to any foreign country and we need to do it for not only
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those reasons, but the economic reasons.
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Alex, our country's broke.
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So yeah, cut off all foreign aid like Ron Paul wants.
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That's great.
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That's a great, it's a great, realistic consequence free kind of idea, Dick.
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You know, I say a lot of, I talk a lot of shit, Dan.
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I talk a lot of shit.
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I have a lot of bad ideas.
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Yeah.
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But I don't hold onto those bad ideas, you know?
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Whenever this stuff happens, whenever I'm, it's like, eh, we should cut off all foreign
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aid.
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They keep saying that.
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It's never pointed out to them like five minutes later.
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Policy for them.
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Yeah.
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Like, no, if I said we should cut off all foreign aid to you, you'd be like, okay, well,
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here's what would happen.
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And I go, ooh, that's a bad idea.
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Let's not do that.
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As someone who's worked with you for a number of years, I can vouch that typically when one
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of your ideas is shown to be bad, you're like, well, that was a bad idea.
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Then you move on.
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That was a bad idea.
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Yeah.
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I have bad ideas.
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Not so much these Jesse Ron Paul types.
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It might be one of our big differences, I think, between me and most of the right wing.
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Jesse Ventura.
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Yeah.
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Although he would not be on the right.
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Because he thinks that there are Democrats and Republicans.
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And look, I mean, it would be wrong to say that everything that Jesse brings up is dumb
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or bad.
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But, I mean, advocating cutting off all foreign aid is something that's pretty tough to balance
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the scales on.
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Like, if you believe that, it's going to take a whole lot of good opinions, maybe an impossible
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number of good opinions.
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I think we should stop world hunger, and I think we should cut off all foreign aid.
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I don't think those two work well together.
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Well, but like I said, it would be dishonest if I didn't say that he actually has some
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good points.
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And one of them is that, yeah, you can complain about Obama a ton, but a lot of what you're
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complaining about is the remnant of things that were done during Bush.
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Sure.
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And Alex, because he's talking to a high status individual, agrees.
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Our idiot memories of the people of this country, they can't think back that far.
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You know, they got about a year that they can remember.
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And they don't realize that it was Bush that did the first bailout.
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It was Bush that started all the wars.
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People need to understand this, and I speak from experience here.
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Yeah, on the economy, it's decisions made about four years ago that affect it today.
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So when the economy went sour in 2008, it was decisions made back in 2003, 4, and 5
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that caused that to happen in 08.
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It does not happen overnight, because it's so big and large that it takes about three
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years or four years for decisions to have their impact on the economy.
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Well, I agree with you.
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Do you?
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Yep.
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That's interesting, because now, whenever Trump does something, the week later, he saved
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the economy.
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Yeah, yeah, he did.
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He saved it.
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And all the stuff that happened during Obama's years, Trump actually did that before Obama
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was president.
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Totally.
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So Alex asks Jesse, because the interview kind of becomes a little bit weird, because
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Jesse's being like, yeah, why would you vote for the Republican candidate?
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Like, they are the ones who started these wars, and the first bailout that everyone's
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so against.
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Good point.
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Ruining the economy is the work of the policies that were put in place.
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So everybody's complaining about the economy, and they're thinking they're going to vote
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for Romney.
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That doesn't make sense.
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Yeah.
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You know, you don't want to vote for Obama.
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You should vote for a third party person.
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That's a serious train of thought that someone can have, yes.
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Yeah, and Alex has a difficulty with it, because at the end of the day, he's like, maybe he
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hates Romney, but he's an anti-left show.
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He's an anti-Democrat show.
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And so he can't really, you know, he wants to get onto other topics, and he's like, yeah,
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what's going on?
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What do you think the big bad guys are going to do?
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They've got TSA now in all 50 states on the highways, train stations and bus stations
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starting to pop up.
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We've got the military admitting they're preparing for civil unrest.
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What do you think they're gearing up for?
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I don't know.
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Obviously, something very bad, and we'll transition to my TV show now, if we may, which will tie
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into this.
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The new season starts November 7th, 10 Eastern, 9 Central on TruTV.
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And one of the interesting shows we show you this year is in Ozark, Missouri.
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There's a complete underground city.
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We discovered it.
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And I've really wanted to investigate that.
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I'm glad you guys did.
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That was a jarring transition to promotion.
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I'm glad you brought that up, Dan.
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And we're going to continue talking about this on my new show on TruTV, Wednesday, 9,
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8 Central.
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What do the globalists have planned?
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They have a lot of bad things they're going to do.
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Well, I'd like to tell you about my new season of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, which
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you are on.
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I do like that as a response to a really terrible, dumb question.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I like that.
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So there's an underground city in Ozark, Missouri.
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Is there?
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There's barely an above-ground city.
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So I remember this episode.
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I saw this episode of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, which is, I mean, that's a
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good show if you want to get high and go like, ooh.
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It's not a good show as a whole, though.
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If you want information, it's not great.
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And I think one of the things you can tell is like, right here, it's like, okay, go fuck
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yourself, Jesse.
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Well, one of the interesting things, here's an interesting thing we found out in Ozark,
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Missouri.
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Now, the only new construction there, except for this big 72,000 square foot single family
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dwelling on top of the hill that led us there, that's another story.
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But the only new things happening in this little town in Missouri is the only thing
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being built are banks, tons of banks.
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And we found the statistics.
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And it goes something like this.
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There's one bank for every 11,000 people in New York City.
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There's one bank for every 9,000 people in Los Angeles.
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In Ozark, Missouri, there's now one bank for every 51 people.
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Incredible.
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Incredible.
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Is it?
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That's ludicrous.
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Is it incredible?
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It doesn't feel incredible to me.
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The population of Ozark, Missouri is approximately 17,800.
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So if there's one bank per 50 persons, that's about 350 banks in that town, which is comical.
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That seems like a lot of infrastructure going to waste.
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One of the things I can tell you as a former Missourian is that outsiders often use the
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word Ozark weirdly.
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For one thing, there's that city called Ozark.
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But there's also a separate county called Ozark County.
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On top of that, there's a big reservoir called the Lake of the Ozarks in the center of the
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state, which has an adjacent city called Lake Ozark.
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This is because the lower half of the state of Missouri and part of Arkansas is covered
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by an expanse of the Ozark Mountains, which have been really instrumental in defining
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the culture of those areas in the Midwest.
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Oftentimes the term of the Ozarks is used to describe the lower half of the state of
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Missouri, but that term really has no administrative or border significance.
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It very well might be that what's going on here is that Jesse's taken the number of banks
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in the Ozark region and compared it to the population of the city that's called Ozark,
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and then decided that a small town in Missouri mysteriously has 350 banks.
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That would make sense.
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Or it's possible that, like, throughout the southern half of Missouri, there's one bank
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per 51 people because there could be a bank in a city that's got, like, no population.
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Yeah.
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Basically, like a farmer's bank or something, you know, like, that don't...
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Yeah.
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I grew up in a town of 7,000, and I'm trying to think of, that's, you know, a little under
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half.
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Mm-hmm.
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But, man, I don't even know if there were 350 total, like, civic buildings, period.
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Yeah, I don't...
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You know, outside of homes and shit.
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I'm not entirely positive that I would be comfortable saying that there's, like, 350
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banks in the, like, bottom half of Missouri.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or whatever.
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That seems maybe even, like, a wonky statistic.
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Right.
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But, like, the idea that this town, Ozark, Missouri, has 350 banks, ridiculous.
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That's a real tulip situation.
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It's ridiculous.
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I mean, we only sell banks here.
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So why would there be that many banks?
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Why would there be that many banks?
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What possible reason could there be to overwhelm a small town with bank branches?
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What conspiracy is he even hinting at?
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I suspect that what he's getting at is that there's this underground city, which is the
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people who these new banks are serving, but this doesn't make sense at all.
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Why would the underground people need to go to the surface to bank?
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Okay.
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They could do all that digitally.
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So that's kind of the angle that we're here on?
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I think.
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Because they're building all these banks, and isn't that suspicious, who's using those
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banks?
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Where are all those people going?
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They must be underground.
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I think.
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That is a train of thought that I would not have expected.
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Right.
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Well, because it makes...
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But I'm just guessing that that's the conspiracy.
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It's silly.
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Old people, rise to the surface world, we must make a withdrawal.
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It's silly.
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It's legitimately dumb.
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Like, okay, let's imagine that they... okay, so, look, they have an ATM down there.
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They could have an ATM down in the underground city, but it would run out of bills, eventually,
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right?
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Yeah.
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Why can't you get a Brinks truck to go to the underground city?
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Why can't you just dig a hole and drop it down?
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Sure.
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Why not?
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Or...
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I would like to make a withdrawal, please.
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Yes.
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Can I have an address?
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Below you.
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Hey, buddy, guess what?
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This is a secret underground city.
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They don't need money.
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They could have everything digital and it'd be totally fine.
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There's no reason to have bills down there.
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There's no reason for change.
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We have the capability of building a perfect underground city, self-sustaining, but where
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are we gonna bank?
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We just didn't think of that.
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We didn't plan ahead.
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We're gonna need 350 banks put in in Ozark, Missouri.
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This is so stupid.
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And the idea that Jesse is entertaining this is some kind of...
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Isn't that suspicious?
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No.
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It's pretty good evidence that either he's checked out on the critical thinking aspect
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of his TV show, or he's just leaning into things that are almost like conspiracy clickbait
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kind of.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I can see him just being...
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He's a professional entertainer.
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He's been an entertainer since he was young.
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This is just part of that selling the shit.
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There's one part where he's like, we have one episode where...
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I'm doing an Alex impression.
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There's one episode...
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I can't do it.
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Come on, you can do it.
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I can't do it.
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You're...
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You're...
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He talks about how on one episode they're going to look into whether or not the government's
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making a humanzee, and Alex is dead silent, because if you believe Alex's conspiracies,
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of course...
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They've already done that.
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Yeah.
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For years they've been doing that.
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It's insulting that Jesse would make an episode about that, because Alex has proven it 100
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times over.
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Of course.
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So it's weird.
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Yeah, that is...
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That is fun.
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It's not like this is the first time he's ever transparently sold obvious garbage with
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his positive, I'm a sales... you know, I'm a professional entertainer.
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You mean Jesse or Alex?
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Yeah, Jesse.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, like he's spent his whole career selling shit that he's been in movies before, he's
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like, I think there's a really great movie.
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You know?
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I'm like, no.
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You know it wasn't.
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Now, there is a line, though.
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What's that?
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Wow.
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I think this season's going to be even more entertaining for people to watch, because
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we also get into your buddy Ike.
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Ike, or whatever his name is.
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Yeah.
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I wish you guys wouldn't have got into it.
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Tell us what happened.
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Well, you know, I wouldn't have did it, except it was on Time Magazine's Top 10 Conspiracies.
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I mean, people believe this, and you know, we're also there to show the conspiracy, but
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we're also there to show if the conspiracy we believe is a fraud.
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You know, we play both sides of the...
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So you don't believe the queen is a five and a half foot reptoid?
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Do I believe it?
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Yeah.
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No.
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They're making fun of David Icke.
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Oh, boy.
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And Alex, now, is really buddying up with David Icke now.
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Oh, boy.
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Jeez.
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So in 2012, Alex was still in the David Icke is a turd in the punch bowl mentality.
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So they're plugging the show pretty good, pretty good and hard.
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And that makes sense, because Jesse's on a promotional tour.
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He's on Alex's show in order to promote Demigrips and Republics, and also the new season of
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his show.
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So he's promoting these things, and in order to help get more buzz, he has a particular
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strategy that he employs that everyone fell for.
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I got hot news for you, and I'll tell you this for all your listeners.
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Please.
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I stated that if a grassroots campaign took place across America, grassroots and didn't
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cost any money, if they got me ballot access in all 50 states, and if the grassroots campaign
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could guarantee that I would be in the debate, that I will give serious consideration 2016
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of running for president.
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Are you breaking that here?
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Well, I've said it a couple of places, but you're pretty well, they're all the same day,
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so you're hearing it the same day.
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Wow.
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Well, thank you for announcing that, because our show is...
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It's up to the people of the United States of America.
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That is such a transparent attempt at creating buzz for his products.
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That's brutal.
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Now, what's funny to me about it is, if you actually listen to what he said, he said nothing.
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He said nothing.
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Uh-uh.
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He said that if he's guaranteed to be on the ballot in every state, and he's guaranteed
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to be in the debates with no money out of his pocket, he'll consider running for president.
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If I am 75% elected already, I will consider taking the next 25% of the steps to get there.
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I'll think about it.
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But you guys have to already pre-elect me the president, essentially.
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Yeah, and that's the thing that's really funny to me, is Alex asks him to really reiterate
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what he's saying.
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And if you pay attention to this, it's really clear that he's like, I will show up and yell
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at people at the debate if everyone else does the hard work for me.
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Exactly.
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100%.
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That's what he said.
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If everyone else does the work, I'll do the fun part.
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My show's big enough that it'll probably end up breaking nationally here that you said
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on this show.
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So, Governor Ventura, please make your announcement.
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Well, I said that it's a grassroots effort, not a money effort.
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I don't want millions of dollars raised, and I don't want to do all that.
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But if there's a grassroots, blue-collar effort out there and people do the legwork to get
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Jesse Ventura on the 2016 ballot for president, and if they can likewise guarantee me, because
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I've got to be in the debates, I won't do it if I can't have an opportunity to win.
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And the only way you can have an opportunity to win is you must be included in the debates.
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If they can guarantee me the debates and guarantee me ballot access in all 50 states, I will
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give very strong consideration to running for president in 2016 as a complete independent.
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What a dick.
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Very strong consideration.
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What a dick.
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Even in your imaginary world that is not possible, you're still waffling in the middle of it?
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Yeah.
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Look, if hundreds of thousands of policy wonks email Comedy Central's head of programming
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right now telling them that I deserve a half-hour comedy special, I will strongly consider recording
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a half-hour comedy special.
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Probably.
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Maybe.
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Well, I mean, the thing that's comparable between those two is they're taking out the
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difficult part.
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Like the hard part-
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If hundreds of thousands of people will work at my stand-up comedy career for 10 years,
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building a fan base of their own.
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The hard part about a grassroots movement is organization and mobilization.
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Like a lot of-
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That's why you pay people to do it.
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Right.
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But ideally you would want a candidate who's engaged with that part of the process.
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And Jesse says, no.
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But that, I mean, it's so transparent to me looking back at this as like when Alex is
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like, oh my God, are you breaking that here?
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And he's like, I've said it in a bunch of places, but all today, because he's going
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on a bunch of interviews.
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He's doing a bunch of press.
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He's doing a junket.
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Yeah.
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And part of his press strategy is indicating that if people want him to be president and
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guarantee him all this, he'll consider it because that'll make a headline.
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And it did.
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Yep.
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What a dick.
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It's not.
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It's not hard.
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It's just not hard.
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Nope.
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It should be harder to manipulate media.
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Did you know that there are a thousand banks in Ozark?
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I have heard that there are one bank for every 6,000 mole people.
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True.
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So Alex has another guest on this episode.
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And this was like, uh, this is going to make people think that I'm a witch again.
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Oh no.
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All right.
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He came to visit me in town a couple of days ago to just talk about the state of the world
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and what they were going through.
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And I said, you've got to come on air and talk about this.
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And Steve Shanks said, all right, I've been your sponsor for about eight years because
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I shopped around to find the best durable foods and found out he was the trailblazer,
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the grandfather of it all 30 plus years, you know, the biggest company, the best company,
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all of that.
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You've got all these fly by night people now coming in to storeable foods because people
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realize, hey, you need to be independent.
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Two things about this, actually three things about this.
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One, Alex knew that Steve Shank was going to be on to plug his foods at the end of the
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episode, which puts into context his desire for calls to come in about World War III and
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the financial collapse that's coming.
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He wanted to create that tone for the episode in order to pay it off towards the end with
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this.
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Steve, we've just heard from all of our callers that World War III is coming and that the
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financial collapse is coming.
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Steve, do you have anything that people might want if the financial collapse is coming?
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Second thing, he's talking about this fly by night people are coming into the space.
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They're not around anymore.
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They're eFoods Direct and Steve Shank.
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They're not.
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They're gone.
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As best I can tell, I can't find any evidence and I've found a bunch of people who are saying
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that they are not in business anymore.
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Interesting.
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And third, they're not Alex's sponsor anymore.
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Alex now has my Patriot Supply.
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He has a completely different food sponsor.
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It's interesting.
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It's interesting to see like this very similar behavior being engaged in in order to push
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survival food in the past.
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Yeah, it's almost like the callers were the three man game.
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You know, it used to be him, Ted Anderson, and what's his dumb fuck selling gold?
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Bob Chapman.
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He's trying to put the callers in the Bob Chapman role of look at what horrible things
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might come.
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Yeah, let's dwell in that space a bunch and then discuss this.
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And honestly, looking into it, trying to figure out what was going on, seeing if I could figure
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out why Alex doesn't have E Foods Direct as my Patriot Supply, is it the same company
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that's rebranded?
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Right.
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You know, whatever.
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Trying to look into that, I got really fucking depressed.
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And I think that there's an aspect of survival food sales that we don't take into consideration
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that much and how ripe for abuse it is.
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Oh yeah.
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Because the premise is you're buying food that you won't eat for five years.
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If you're somebody who's running a con and don't expect to be in business in five years,
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you could sell whatever the fuck you want because most of those people are not going
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to eat that food.
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It could be bad and then it might not have the shelf life that you're claiming that it
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has.
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And by the time that they, anyone learns that you're out of business, you've disappeared,
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there's nothing they can do.
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I found so many complaints on websites from people who had bought food from E Foods Direct
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and you know, it's got a 25 year shelf life and like let's say a hurricane hit or something
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or even more tragically now in 2020 with the situation that people are finding themselves
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in.
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They're like, oh, we have survival foods.
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Thank God we do.
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They open it up and it's rancid.
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It's completely spoiled.
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The food is no good.
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One person I found a complaint from was saying that there's an intrinsic problem that their
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foods don't have bug proof bags.
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So they just, all of the food just had bugs infested.
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Lava and shit everywhere.
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And I don't know if that's universal and you know, I generally try to err on the side of
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not taking angry online comments too seriously because they're easy for people to create
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you know, like campaigns against the company or whatever.
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But it was over a long stretch of time these complaints and they were also a lot of them.
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It made me think that maybe there was something to some of the complaints that they were making
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and it really, really depressed me because of that angle on it.
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The fact that like you're basically selling people comfort that they may not have in the
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future.
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And these people, like it's not cheap, like it's a lot of money that people were paying
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like thousands of dollars for you know, a family of five, a year's worth of food.
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And then maybe it's shit.
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Maybe it's useless.
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And now you're out that money and you've been deprived of that comfort that was what you
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were being sold in the first place.
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And it really made me more angry because on some level, I totally understand the idea
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of preparation.
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I mean, we've talked about this before, like when I was younger, we lived in Missouri and
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there's tornadoes.
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Sure.
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So my parents had some canned food and bottled water in the basement in case.
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I understand it's something that if things go as bad as they possibly could, it's not
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irrational to have something.
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And when a company exists that's promising you the relief of those potential fears and
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anxieties, when that's what they exist to do and they take advantage of it, it's really
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bad.
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It's really evil to me, I think.
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I mean, I would say adding, you know, just on that merit, yes, it's disgusting when you
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add the fact that they are then stoking and exacerbating the fear in order to sell more
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of their shit, then now you're not just saying, oh, they're exploiting somebody's reasonable
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fears.
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What they're doing is they're ratcheting up reasonable fears into something insane in
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order to sell more of their food because that's how capitalism works.
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And from what I understand, I think eFoods Direct was also a multi-level marketing.
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They had an angle of it that was that, you'd sell food to people around you.
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So it's even more exploitative and like just all of the indications that I can get are
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like this is a really, really gross thing that Alex was engaged in.
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Yeah.
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Hey, you know what's funny?
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Food business is predatory.
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Yeah.
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And that's-
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You didn't laugh.
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No, because I'm too depressed.
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I know, that's very sad.
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And that's the other thing too, is that like Alex is talking about this in terms of like,
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yeah, there's a bunch of people who are getting into the emergency food game because people
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want to be independent, but that's an illusion.
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That's an illusion.
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You're creating a dependency on your company for this survival food.
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And if you can't promise or if you can't deliver what you're promising, it's so depressing.
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It's just a bleak picture of like Alex selling x-ray goggles in the back of his magazine
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or whatever.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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It's just such charlatanry that I find it offensive that so much of his career is clearly
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staked on this.
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Yeah.
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Like it's so clearly based on this con of these people who trust him and it sucks.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to believe.
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It's still hard to wrap my mind around.
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Just like how many different terms, idioms, descriptors, stories, and all of this stuff
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about con men are just littered throughout just American history, let alone the world
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history.
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And yet it is still impossible to convince a significant portion of people that con men
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exist.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Con men are so good at convincing you everybody else is trying to con you.
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Yeah.
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That you wind up buying storable foods.
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All these other storable food people are con men.
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Exactly.
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Except for me.
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What are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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And it's interesting because this experience of preparing this episode really sort of umbrellaed
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out my distaste.
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Because so much of it before was what you were talking about, the exacerbating fears
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in order to push product.
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Sure.
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Because I had some kind of a just maybe naive belief that what they were selling was actually
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good.
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Good thing.
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But then looking at these fucking complaints, it just like, and it's not just complaints,
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there were pictures of their food that had gone bad and it's gross.
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And it's like, I just, it just adds such a, another layer to it that is just, I feel so
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bad.
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I mean, yeah, not least of which because just as if you want to, like, let's call it market
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capitalism and the market will do the stuff.
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What incentive do you have to sell good storable food?
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Like, what incentive is there?
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I mean, in theory, you'll get sued in 25 years.
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Exactly.
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You're not going to be, most businesses aren't in business 25 years and if you're a storable
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food business, your bottom line is there won't even be a business in 25 years.
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You're going to need our food.
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Yeah.
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We won't exist by the time you need to be mad at us.
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It's, it's, it's honestly something that I think that it might be a space that calls
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for regulation.
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100%.
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I think it may call for greater regulation than even just like regular food market because
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of those added elements.
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Absolutely.
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Because of the, the sort of liability that you get yourself out of based on the nature
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of the business.
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Yeah.
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And of course, we're some politician, obviously it would be someone on the left, to suggest
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these kinds of things Alex would be able to say that it's an attack on the idea of storable
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food.
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Obviously.
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Right.
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When in, when in fact it's just a loophole that is really fucked up.
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Yeah, it is really, I just, I didn't really consider it fully before, but it is a business
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based around by the time you use my product, I will not exist.
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I will be out of town.
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Exactly.
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In the old sort of parlance.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a monorail.
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The salesman will have moved on.
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It's a monorail.
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Yes, it's totally a monorail.
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Well, the business won't even exist because we're all dead.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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It's a, it's a bummer.
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That's a real bummer.
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And I think the reason that we don't consider these things or hadn't thought about it in
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those terms before is just a, I, again, naive faith that like, at least-
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Well, they're a business.
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They should do-
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They're a business.
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They're a business.
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There's gotta be rules.
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They have to be doing something.
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Right.
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If you sell people storable food that goes bad 10 years before its expiration date, obviously
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you're gonna get sued.
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Of course.
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You're out of business by then already or there's no recourse.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So yeah, it's-
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Wow.
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That's a great way to launder money.
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Has anybody figured that out yet?
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I don't know.
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That's interesting.
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Anyway, Alex is like, look, sure.
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This guy, Steve Shank, he's here and he runs my fucking survival food business, but he's,
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we're not here to plug.
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Uh-uh.
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We're here to talk about news.
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Of course.
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He's having to buy food out a year or two ahead just so he can give you good food at
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the lowest price.
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When other folks are selling you things that the cardboard has more nutrition, literally.
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See, I'm already running on here.
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We're not talking about efoodsdirect.com.
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He does not want to talk about that.
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He came here to talk about the news.
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So now that's an interesting premise.
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He's here to talk about the news.
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He's not here to talk about efoodsdirect.
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Now, it might be interesting to see what kind of news he wants to cover.
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Here's what he brought.
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Reuters, world food prices jumped 10% in July.
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World Bank.
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Boom.
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That's hyperinflation, folks, not just the droughts.
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Food stamp used climes to record 46.7 mil, but you add in the rest is over 50 mil.
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Bloomberg, hot long summer since food price is soaring.
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So it's all about stories that are designed to make people more inclined to buy your survival
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food.
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Yeah.
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How is that not an infomercial?
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No, it's not.
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He's just there to talk about the news, Dave.
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Please.
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He's just there to talk about the news.
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Such bullshit.
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Come on.
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He's got a lot of things to say about Ron Paul, I imagine.
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This is about as unethical as it fucking gets.
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And the presentation of like, oh, Steve doesn't want me to plug.
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I'm going to plug whether he wants me to or not is such bullshit.
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It's insulting.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's really insulting.
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And I'm going to plug it.
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He can't stop me.
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efoodsdirect.com, the place to get your storeable foods.
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They're laughing about that, the concept that like he's rebelliously plugging.
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He's told me not to.
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We're going to plug anyway because it's so good.
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Fuck you guys.
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That's mean to me.
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Fuck you.
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Yeah.
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You know what's even worse is like, I mean, obviously I can't trace this, but like I can
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just imagine that somebody who's listening to this show in 2012 bought that food and
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then they were the people complaining on the websites that I...
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Six months ago.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They opened it up that we got the food.
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It's a good thing.
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Everybody, you know, that was when the markets, the shelves were all empty.
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Sure.
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Target had no toilet paper down the way and they're like, fuck it.
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We're going to open up this storeable food and then they get maggots and shit.
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Or even if it's just a thing where, okay, things are looking like they might go bad.
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Let's try this food out and see what we've got.
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And then you're like, oh, we don't have anything.
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Like I know that obviously I can't draw a direct line, but it's really too hard for
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me not to think that somebody bought food because of this disgraceful display.
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And maybe some of them were disappointed.
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Oh man.
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Such a fucking bummer.
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That is a bummer.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, this is where it becomes like really go fuck yourself with this.
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This isn't an infomercial.
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You can't do anything about the earthquakes and the storms and things that are happening
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as a result of the 2012 thing.
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You can't do anything about what's going to happen.
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Also by the way, Steve Shank might be a Mayan apocalypse guy.
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We're a Mayan apocalypse guy.
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That sounds Mayan apocalypsing.
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He's vaguely Mayan apocalypsing.
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Okay.
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I don't care who gets into office right now with this election.
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It doesn't matter.
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Neither one of them can do anything about, and we as individuals, Joe lunch bucket out
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there can't do anything about what's going to happen with all of the goofiness that's
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going on with government and the takeover of the food.
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And we're going to talk about Michelle Obama and her interest in tracking all the food
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that we've got a little bit later on.
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Oh yeah.
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I meant to cover that yesterday.
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Will you guys reprint me that?
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Go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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Anyway, you can't do anything about that.
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Now Alex, you are a master at going in and finding all of the goofy stuff that's going
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on, all of the inappropriate stuff and you expose it and all of us, we've got people
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out there that would not miss one of your programs that actually take notes when you
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bring up what's going on with Obama, when you bring up what's going on with the Chinese
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taking over our farmland, when you bring up what's going on with ethanol and the various
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things that we've talked about.
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But I got a question for you.
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You've got food in your garage under air conditioning.
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What can you do about Obama and the weather and what can you do about all of the things
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that we've talked about?
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You can't do a stinking thing.
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And all of these people that are taking notes and are saying, my gosh, Alex really hit it
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today.
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What have you done for him?
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What can they do?
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No, it's like-
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There's one thing they can do.
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So it's like the Titanic is listing, the food is the lifeboats is what you're saying.
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Absolutely.
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No, I agree.
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Listen, that's parity levels of infomercialing.
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Wow.
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That's like, hey, Alex, you're great at getting people all juiced up, but hey, at the end
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of the day, there's nothing they can do, but the only thing they can do is buy my product.
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In ad copy terms, that is a call to action.
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Yeah.
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Hey, the Titanic sinking, my product is a lifeboat.
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The only lifeboat.
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Jesus.
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Embarrassing.
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I can't imagine a better way to stop listening to Info Wars than if somebody was like, here,
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here's what you do.
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Take notes every day for a week.
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That's kind of how this show started.
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I know, right?
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Isn't that kind of that like, if you just take notes on a weekly basis of, or no, for
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one week, take notes of what he says day to day to day, and then compare them from just
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what he says in one week, you will find at least 30 different things that he's on both
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sides about.
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I don't know.
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If you choose the right week, you're probably right.
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But some weeks he's kind of boring, and he doesn't stray too far off any paths.
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You could definitely find weeks that are like, none of this makes sense.
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But even if you just take notes over a day and track down the things that he says, and
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like, if you go into it with an open mind and actually look for information, you could
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not possibly continue listening to him.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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The only reason you would ever maintain being an Info Wars listener is passivity, just sort
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of unquestioning this.
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I don't say that in any nefarious way.
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It doesn't mean anything bad about a listener if they're not questioning what they're hearing.
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Because it's easy to get-
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It's easy to get captured.
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Yeah, it's easy to get locked into patterns of accepting X, Y, or Z as reputable.
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But yeah, if there were listeners- I mean, there are listeners who are taking notes,
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obviously.
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I'm sure there are.
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Well, yes, of course.
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Of course.
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And the only way that holds up is if you don't do anything with them, it's just sort of a
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compulsive exercise.
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If you throw them away at the end of it like a fucking box score.
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Yeah.
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Alex, Steve, excuse me, mentioned in that last clip that Alex has a bunch of food under
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air conditioning.
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Yes, he does.
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Which Alex says he does.
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And he's got more than just that.
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Everything, it's all coming true.
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I am so unpleased that we were proven right.
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But I agree with you.
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People need to have good friends and family and medical supplies and food and water filtration
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and firearms.
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And I've gotten out of the city.
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Listen, I lived in town.
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I like living in town.
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I like being able to drive a quarter mile of the movie theater or a quarter mile of
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the grocery store.
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Not now.
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I got to drive 10 minutes to get anywhere.
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And I went and read strategic relocation and I found the one area in the hill country in
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Texas is probably one of the few safe areas are safer.
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I mean, I've made preparation.
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I've put in the well.
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I'm putting in the solar power.
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I mean, because this is real and I hope people will go to the one place to get their food
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that I there may be other good places, but a lot of them are bad.
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This is embarrassing.
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Flash forward eight years.
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Alex saying, I'm finally going to have to find a bunker or like it just does this lying
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piece of shit.
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Yeah.
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It's so real right now that I've had to dig out wells.
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I'm getting solar power eight years later.
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It's so real right now that I'm going to, you know, stock food up in the country.
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I'm going to put some guns out there.
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Yeah.
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It's just a way of George Foreman actually had one of his own fucking grills.
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I'm sure he had one.
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It's a way of performing the severity of the situation that requires you to buy the product.
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Absolutely.
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It's just gross.
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Yeah.
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That's not good.
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And here's where it gets even grosser for me because this touches on like a lot of my
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belief of things going bad and Alex is wearing my belief as a hat and I really, I disrespect
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this.
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You don't just need food for yourself.
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You need it for your family and your neighbors.
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Flash forward to 2020, my super powers being honest, I've extrapolated this out and I won't
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have to for a few years as I got food and stuff, but I'm literally looking at my neighbors
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now and going, I'm ready to hang them up and got them and scan them and chop them up.
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You know what?
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I'm ready.
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My daughters aren't starving to death.
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I'll eat my neighbors.
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So the reason that I'm personally offended by this is that I do think that, um, any kind
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of a perspective that you have towards things going bad, to the extent that you're able
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to should take into consideration the people around you.
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You should never be looking at, um, you know, like getting a weapon to protect yourself
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from your neighbors.
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You should think about getting a weapon possibly to help protect your neighbors from any threat
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that might be there.
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Community minded, uh, approaches towards, uh, anything that could go bad or are so much
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more helpful than, um, views where it's like, uh, uh, I'm the only survivor, you know, and,
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and Alex, Alex knows that in 2012, he's sitting here saying you need food for your neighbors
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and yeah, you know, if things go bad, if you have a bucket of food, it's great because
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then you can help your neighbors survive.
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That is something that's really awesome.
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If you're able to afford that and are in such a position where you can do that, that's great.
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And Alex knows that, but he doesn't mean it.
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He doesn't mean it.
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He wants to eat his neighbors.
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Furthermore, furthermore, just historically, cooperation has not been like one of the strategies
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to survive.
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It has been the only successful strategy.
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It's the best.
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That's why we're still here.
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Yeah.
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It's the best adaptive strategy.
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Obviously.
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Yeah.
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And, and finding people around you to create a cooperative community with will make you
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far more successful than if you are sitting alone with a fucking gun, basically holding
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your family hostage.
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Eating rancid mashed potatoes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Like what are you guys doing?
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I need this gun to protect this bad food that I overpaid for.
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Oh man.
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Yeah.
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It's a, it's a real bummer because it's a, it's a like a presentation of something good
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being used in service of everything bad.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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And I really fucking hate that.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's, it's kind of like when you are influenced too much by media and culture and
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books and all that stuff, then you, your steady drumbeat of dystopias are always, you know,
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it's the person surviving the dystopia.
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Dystopias are never like, okay, we're going to build a community together and we're going
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to get all this stuff together and we're going to do some of the dystopian aspects.
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Exactly.
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You're creating just a regular old society in a shitty place.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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I mean, you look at like the sort of the marquee things you have, like, it's, I think it's
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cause it's also, it's an easier story to tell.
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Like the...
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Fewer characters.
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You don't have to pay as many actors.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I don't know.
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Fuck all this shit.
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I hate Alex.
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I hate him so much.
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I hate him so much.
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What's so interesting is you go back to this like 2012 and you're seeing this exact same
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behavior, but like kind of even grosser because of like little wrinkles to it.
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It's a different food sponsor.
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We know that they've probably gone out of business after getting tens of thousands of
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dollars of profit probably from these people.
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That's gross.
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But it's the same behavior.
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Yeah.
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You have Jesse Ventura coming in and just like using Alex as a platform to promote his
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products and using a vanity false start run for president as a way to, to, to push that.
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Real gross.
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Real gross.
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And you have Alex having a little petty fight with Jesse Benton and by virtue of that saying
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he's done and doesn't want to talk to Ron Paul ever again.
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Such a weird world.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Such a weird world.
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Yeah.
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It's wild.
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You have to get live in the present where all kinds of weird shit happens and day to
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day nothing makes any sense, but it's all vaguely familiar and then go into the past
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and the same weird shit happens and it's vaguely everything is everything on Info Wars is uncanny.
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Like it's vaguely similar to something that you know from the real world and yet it's
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not.
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Yeah.
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That's how the like field pieces are.
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It's like, that's like local news, but man, it's so close, but it's not that thing.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah.
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Why is it, why are real things there and you are what you are?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The thing that's really weird to me is like just how much more grounded his conspiracies
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are.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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And I think part of that is because he doesn't have to wrangle with the devil.
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Yeah.
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You know, you can, you can do political conspiracies and intrigue all day.
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Sure.
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You could sit me down and yell at me about JFK theories for like an hour and I'd be like,
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okay.
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Yeah.
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You know, maybe look into stuff and see where roads lead, but wouldn't be like, get the
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fuck out of here.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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You start yelling about the literal Satan.
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Devil killed JFK.
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All right.
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And also JFK Jr is still alive.
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I gotta go.
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All right, buddy.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So, uh, first of all, happy anniversary, Keith and Laurel.
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Yes.
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Happy anniversary to the both of you.
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Many more, uh, happy, uh, rotations of, uh, earth or the sun or whatever.
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Whichever it is we choose.
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Yeah.
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Whichever you like the most.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, thank you for, uh, suggesting this.
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It was an interesting glimpse and also thank you for letting us, uh, be a proxy part of
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your anniversary.
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Absolutely.
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And, uh, the Wonk nation.
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Yes.
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And the world.
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We all celebrate it.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Think about that.
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That's fucked up.
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You guys.
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That is kind of fucked up.
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Keith.
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Keith.
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Laurel.
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I'm talking to you right now.
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Yes.
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You too.
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There are thousands of people around the world who are either actively or passively right
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now wishing you a happy anniversary.
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That's true.
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How fucked up is that?
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That's kind of weird.
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Weird.
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That is weird.
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Yeah.
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Let's not focus too much on what we're capable of doing.
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It kind of creeps me out, Dan.
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Yeah.
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We can get people to think happy anniversaries for people.
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That's the extent of the way we want to abuse our powers.
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I think it's a great way to abuse our powers.
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Absolutely.
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Yes.
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I don't have time to wrangle any phone calls for this episode, but we'll get some calls
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on the next one.
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But for now, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at Knowledge Fight and I go to bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on iTunes, and if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your
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area to help out people doing God's work right now.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I'm a broken Ozark banker.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.