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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for Knowledgefight, Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledgefight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, rattle her.
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Need, need, need, money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, rattle her.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy, stop it, Andy and, Andy and, Andy and, Andy and, Andy,
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it's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a assistant color and a huge fan.
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I love your work, Knowledgefight.
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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight.com.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk just
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a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is peeking into the old mail bag.
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Got another nice piece of mail.
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And Marcus sent us a copy of the Illuminati board game.
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Oh that's great.
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Illuminati card game.
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Yeah.
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The new version of it, not the New World Order one, is the sort of collectible, weird one
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that has pictures of Alex Jones.
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And Alex thinks predicts the future.
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It does predict the future.
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But yeah, I got it with a nice little note.
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Hi Dan and Jordan, you guys are the bright spots of 2020.
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I'm Dan and this is 2020.
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God damn it.
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Thank you so much Marcus, we really appreciate it.
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I've been thinking about, we gotta try and play that on a live stream or something.
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Of course.
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But, and I was gonna say we should do that like now.
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Right.
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But the reason that I'm kind of resistant is I think I need to get another camera.
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Because I think it needs to be a three camera shoot.
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Okay.
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Because it needs to be one camera.
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We need one directly on the playing board.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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Otherwise no one would be able to see the cards that are being played.
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It's just us talking like idiots.
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Right.
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Which we already do.
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Some people would enjoy that, but I think it's the tenseness of us.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You need the poker cam to show you.
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I feel like you do.
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Yeah, yeah, of course.
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So, I will get another camera because these webcams are actually fairly cheap.
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They're only like 30 bucks or something.
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I think.
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I might be low balling that.
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Spy and see if your wife is cheating on you.
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30 bucks.
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Yeah, so we'll figure that out in the future.
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And thank you again Marcus.
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So that's my bright spot.
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Yes, thank you very much Marcus.
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It was a cool little game for a game night or something.
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Yeah, that's very cool.
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I would like to do that.
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How about you?
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I have a bright and dark spot.
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The bright spot for me, of course, is that I will never read The Atlantic ever again.
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It's garbage.
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Oh my.
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That means no more Friedersdorf, no more David Brooks.
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Wow.
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I'm all done with it.
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I've heard this so many times before.
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I know, but this time it's done and I'll tell you why.
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It's not Friedersdorf's fault.
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Okay.
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I read a terrible... I made it two sentences through an opinion piece written by two law
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professors about William Barr and the first sentence was, a lot of people breathed a sigh
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of relief when Bill Barr was appointed Attorney General because of his competence.
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And then the second sentence was, everybody had high hopes because he had previously worked
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for an honorable administration.
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And I was like, this shit is done.
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This is trash.
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I'm done with The Atlantic forever.
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It's all garbage.
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You're like me.
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I hate them.
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You're like me and Project Camelot.
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I don't believe you at all.
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You'll be back.
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You'll be signing up for a subscription.
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One day you'll be like, I need to get mad about something and then you'll Google what
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is Connor Friedersdorf said lately and then you'll be right back and then a month after
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that we'll have another conversation where you say, I'm done with The Atlantic forever.
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I'm done with it.
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Fuck them.
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I'm looking forward to a time where I need something to get angry about.
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I know that you can get angry at just about anything, but I think there's a specific sort
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of anger that Friedersdorf gives you.
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I don't know.
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That is a drug.
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It really is.
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It really is.
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I think that normal generalized anger hits that same button for you.
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I don't know what it is with him.
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I think part of it is that he responded to your tweets.
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I think a part of it is a personalization.
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You think because I got to shoot him in the face with some mean words, that means that
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I'm there forever.
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It becomes personal.
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I think possibly.
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A little bit.
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That's fair.
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So Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about June 25th and 26th, 2020.
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This is now my autonomous zone.
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I intended to do a Bill Cooper episode for today because it's Monday, but I might be
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done with that old asshole.
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This is the day of large pronouncements of being done with stuff that we will go back
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to almost inevitably.
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Almost certainly.
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One of the things that I'm sort of wrestling with is that Bill Cooper's coverage of Oklahoma
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City doesn't continue immediately, and pretty soon after, he ends up going on vacation.
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So there's a week of non-related shows.
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So in order to get to the stuff that's actually interesting, it might take me a lot longer
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in terms of digging to procure the materials, and it's really tough for me to motivate myself
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to put hours and hours into that, because once the dew is off the lily and you start
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to realize this old man's shtick is basically just reading his listeners' emails and pretending
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it's intelligence reports.
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Yeah, that's a bummer.
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Yeah.
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I think I entered looking at Bill Cooper with this sort of sense of him as a legend, of
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like he's a big name in the conspiracy game, and that he would have actual things to dig
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into.
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Right.
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And I think you get misled, because that first episode that we covered in was about the silent
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weapons for quiet wars.
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Of course.
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And at least that's a fake document.
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We can discuss that.
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Sure.
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I can't do anything with someone from Oklahoma emailing him.
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Track down his emails.
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I can't do anything with that.
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It's really pathetic, honestly, and I'm disappointed.
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I'm disappointed the more I learn about him as a human, and then I'm disappointed the
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more I get into his actual conspiracy career.
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There's so much nothing there that I'm almost now just like, I don't understand how people
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did it.
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I don't know.
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I don't know why he's a legend.
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I guess he has some sort of charisma.
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I'll get back to it down the road, but I don't think... It's not feasible to do an episode
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every week.
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Yeah.
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So we'll get back to that whenever we're able to get back to it.
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But for now, we are sticking in the present day with Alex Jones.
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All right.
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And this episode's pretty interesting, I guess.
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I mean, there's a lot of really fucked up things.
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And Alex has a couple of particular things that are just like really continuing this
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trend towards like, I need political violence, I need it now, we need it now.
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And then it ends up with Alex getting embarrassed by one of his heroes.
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Great.
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So we can all kind of enjoy that.
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I love that.
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Before we get down to business on the actual episode, though, Jordan, we're going to take
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a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up in our Sporedom show.
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So first, PlagueBucks for Patreon.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, PlagueBucks.
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Thank you.
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Next, LV.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, LV.
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I hope it's the person who did Gangster's Paradise with... No, is that... Yeah, yeah.
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Do you mean Coolio?
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Yeah.
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Coolio.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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That song was LV featuring Coolio.
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Was that real?
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LV was the one who sang the chorus.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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We have been spending most of our lives.
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That's LV.
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Yeah, okay.
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All right.
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Little known fact.
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That is a little known fact.
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Yep.
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I hope that's who this wonk is.
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Next, Haley H. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Haley.
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Thank you.
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Next, AJ P. Last initial P, AJ.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I am a policy wonk.
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Thanks, AJ.
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Thank you.
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Next, Henry P. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I'm a Henry.
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Next, Alexander S. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you Alexander.
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It's not Soros.
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It's not George Soros.
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I didn't say it was Soros.
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I didn't say it was Soros.
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Next, Aseltzeronme.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Aseltzeronme.
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And, Sean R. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Sean.
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Thank you.
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Alexander. It's not Soros. I didn't say it was Soros. I didn't say it was Soros. Next, a seltzer on me. Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you a seltzer on me. And Sean R. Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Sean. Thank you
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And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on elevated level
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We appreciate that very much. So first Mary Lee. Thank you so much
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You are now a technocrat and Nikki N-I-C-K-I. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat
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I'm a policy wonk. Crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business
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We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why you pimps so good. My neck is freakishly large
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I declare info war on you. Thank you so much Mary Lee and thank you so much Nikki
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you. I'd like to apologize to folks
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I mean like we bring this up every now and again, but we're like a ways back on shoutouts
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So if you're out there listening and you're you know confused
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We apologize. We have a backlog because we never expected people to donate and it's
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Too late now, it's just too late now can't renege on the offer of giving everyone shout out. We just can't yeah
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So but if it's been more than two months and you haven't heard your shout out
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Please feel free to email us and we will get you in the mix. Absolutely. Um, so Jordan today
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an interesting episode and here's an out-of-context drop from today's show, you know, I want to depopulate you oh
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Don't know what that means. I want to depopulate you. Yeah, that was a great cold place. We are we removing
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Uteruses, is that what we're doing? We're getting rid of the fallopian tubes entirely no more eggs possibly. Yeah, that's a smart
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I'm not entirely sure where he's going with this, but whatever. Okay, so Alex here on the 25th
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He's continuing his crusade against masks, which of course is all kind of a lead-up to his protest
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The no mask protests were in Austin. And so that's going to be kind of a running theme
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He's gonna attach himself to just about everything that seems anti mask that comes up. But now there's a big video that's gone viral
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That's up on info wars calm
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Where it's shown with an air quality monitor that it is dangerous levels of co2
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I went Troyer went out and bought one yesterday and duplicated the same scientific
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Example, but we already know from the studies. This is the case. It's killing people literally suffocating them
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And so here are those reports back-to-back. So Alex has found himself another viral video where somebody's mad about masks
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So, of course, he's decided this is a scientific study
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got a the video is a guy using a co2 meter to see what levels of co2 are in his mask and apparently after like
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Five seconds the thing starts beeping indicating a dangerous concentration of co2 in the area who climate change for your face
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If this were in any way accurate surgeons could never perform surgery
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Scientists and researchers could never be in a lab setting for more than a couple seconds without being exposed to supposedly dangerous levels of co2
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There are a lot of people who wear masks for work like for entire shifts like construction workers
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You know, like I said nurses doctors surgeons dentists
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I have seen the greatest minds of my generation suffocate from wearing a mask, right?
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That's a it doesn't seem to have a dangerous effect on their oxygen or co2 levels
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Breathing is a really important thing for humans. So what I know that's an
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Sorry, I understand. Yeah, I understand. So when they're designing masks, that's one of the factors
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They breathe it and then consider things like ski masks or helmets that you wear for extended motorcycle rides
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There are a hundred examples of things that would be essentially impossible if wearing a mask did dangerously elevate your co2
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Or affect your breathing in any meaningful way. This is all bullshit
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Yeah, there are some concerns about wearing n95 masks for extended period of time
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But most people who aren't doctors or nurses they don't have to deal with that and there are specialized masks
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Yeah, that helped mitigate those issues. It always comes back to smarter people have thought of this a long time before you did
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Yeah, you bet. Yeah, you bet. Yep. So Alex wants to touch back on the NASCAR story
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Sure, little bitch or wants to keep that plate spinning a little bit for no reason. You should just oh everybody loves
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No, it's great. But he's continuing to misreport it and then you get somebody
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Like this NASCAR individual Bubba Wallace
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Who got caught within hours knowing that all those garage doors had those pull-down rubs on them and that they weren't nooses
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One of them was and they'd been there for years and I typed his name into Google this morning and I saw
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hundreds of headlines praising him and praising NASCAR and and and
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Saying that you know, this is a real threat and that he's right. It's probably still a noose
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So Alex is reporting a factually inaccurate version of this story because he's trying to
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solidify his argument that all hate crimes directed at non-white people are a hoax
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It very well may be the case that this wasn't an instance of a hate crime as it appears not to be
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There are concrete fabrications that Alex is making up to be able to report this story as something in line with his own narratives
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The first is that all of the garages had the same pull-down rope
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This is specifically refuted by reporting on the story that reflects that the guy at the garage who first reported the noose
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Checked the other garages before saying anything to make sure it wasn't something that all the garages had and he'd misrepresented or misunderstood
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Alex is making this up that it was in all the garages
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The second thing is that everyone is calling Bubba and NASCAR heroes
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While admittedly this kind of is a subjective thing
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I would say that even though this ended up not being a hate crime both parties did act in ways that are commendable
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Wallace had the courage to defend the guy at his garage who found the noose and the humility to accept that they'd been mistaken
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About what was found that the noose had been there for over a year
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Similarly, NASCAR should be applauded for taking this seriously and working to make sure that their drivers are able to work in a safe environment
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If this had happened in the WWE, I guarantee they would have covered it up
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The third thing is that people are saying that this is a noose
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The issue here is that people are definitely still saying that and they're right. It's a noose. It's 100% a noose. I've looked at it
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Yes, it's a noose. You bet
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The lie that Alex is engaging in here is pretending that people are out of line for that assessment
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When you if you go and look at the pictures that NASCAR themselves released, that's a damn noose
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It might as well be in the board game clue. Yeah for noose
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This is a fairly minor point and I don't want to dwell on this story too much
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But I feel like it's important to point out a couple of these like these really clear
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Instances of Alex just making up details about a story so it fits into his patterns because otherwise it's not really usable for his reporting
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So he needs to do this and it's it's shitty. Yeah, it's a it's a real bummer
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Can you imagine if Bubba had acted like Alex Jones acted like even after all the FBI?
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Report even after the video and surveillance and all that shit. He's still just like nope. I know who it was
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It was all white people. They all got together in billions and they just sat down and made this one noose for me
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Yeah, like that would be yeah
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I'm gonna I'm gonna skip ahead here a little bit
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I'm just gonna ignore these clips because Alex embellishes more on that story from Germany about the foster children. Sure
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I
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Cut the clips in case and honestly looking back on it. He doesn't embellish in any way
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That's relevant now and I think it probably would just be stupid to talk about so I'm gonna go ahead. We got it
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Yeah, he does say that a nurse in Houston told him that they're cutting seven-year-olds dicks off all the time
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Okay, so that's interesting. What does that nurse do? I'd like for him to substantiate this in any way
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She won't do is that nurse right? Did she?
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Personally, mmm. I don't know. It's unclear. I don't think this nurse exists. Okay. Well, that's fair
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So we get to this next clip here and Alex is talking about like, you know
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You know God right Jesus. He was seduced by the devil the devil tried to seduce him. He did try
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yes in similar ways Alex has had his fair share of
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Instances of globalists in hot tubs course sometimes in airplanes always sometimes calling him on his radio show
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But mysteriously he's not recording. Of course not
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Hollywood always always always they tried to get him in Guardians of the Galaxy
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Alex is a million dollars. Alex is a pretty much every
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Every echelon of globalist has contacted Alex and tried to recruit him to the team except for one
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Social media. Oh, and now we get to check that box
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All right
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And Mark Zuckerberg tried to get me through his intermediaries to go up to New York a few years ago for the election and played
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football with them
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And I mean, I mean that figuratively and I did what?
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But boy, they're like, hey watch what happens to your Facebook just watch this and I would go to a video
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I'd be some boring thing my background like five million views like, okay
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That's when they turn the spicot on it's like well, you're not being too nice to Mark Zuckerberg
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You came out in a tag team after we offered you that's with a grapevine. I said, yeah, you can burn in hell
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Because he is
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Yeah, that demon better hope he gets eternal life through some silicon junk what she won't
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Because he's gonna face almighty. Here's why Alex is pathetic
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Anybody else would have recorded those calls
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If I'm in a situation where I'm in a position like Alex
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It's sure the easiest fucking thing to record a call if Facebook calls you and they try to extort you. It's not hard
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No, the first call. Maybe you don't record it. You didn't grab this stuff right? No big deal, right? That happens
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Yeah, the second call you gotta record it these days these days with like smartphones
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It's really easy to have like an app. You can just press just press the button. Yeah, it's not hard
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This is to me an indication of bullshit
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Yeah, or just incompetence because Alex is sort of pretending that there's like a grand conspiracy of extortion
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Going on with social media. Oh, look at this. We can make you have five million views
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But if you talk bad about Zuckerberg down go your views
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And he can't like if he had those recordings, it would be like wow, that is actually you you have proof
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Talking shit, I don't believe it
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Maybe that's why James O'Keefe only ever makes shitty videos is because whenever he gets the good stuff
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He always forgets to press record on his phone. Dad. That's always the that's always the situation
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So then he has to make up some bullshit
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But if you just press record, he would have it I would have to assume that is what's going on
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It must be the only explanation. So there's there's a lot of COVID-19 cases that are popping up
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No, the numbers are going up. No, no flatten the curve
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They're going up. Well, we're beating it Alex's take on this is largely that it's just because there's more testing which great
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Yeah, but he does bring up something that is fairly accurate, but he's misleading about it
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And that is that deaths are not rising at the same rate. All right, let me get into the huge news
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total take over lock down to it was all scripted all planned all total height the deaths are plunging but
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Cases are everywhere and they'll get enough people
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They get panic when they cough to go and they'll say oh, let us take you right in your oh, you're 25
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Come right in here. Oh, you're homeless. Oh, this guy's dead. You don't have any family. Look
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We're gonna give you some medicine to make you relax and then they'll keep you alive about two weeks
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On a bunch of heroin derivatives while you got a tube down your throat
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They're gonna suck all the money out of you then they're gonna kill your ass
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They're gonna use that number to scare everybody
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But not before they suck hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the taxpayer
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So if you want to get murdered go to a blue city hospital and say you got COVID
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They're gonna kill you real good. Whoa. Yep. That sounds right
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the thing with Alex's talk that deaths aren't rising is that for now that's fairly accurate, but
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This assessment of the piece of information is deceiving for two reasons
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The first was that even as much as things were trending in the right direction
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We were still seeing at least 500 deaths a day from COVID-19
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That's definitely better than a thousand a day, but that's still not good on March 20th of this year
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We crossed the threshold where there started to be over 5,000 new cases identified per day on that day
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There were only 70 deaths from COVID-19 reported on March 31st. The death numbers jumped to over 1,000 a day
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This is because deaths are what they call a lagging indicator of virus spread
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Deaths are almost never going to be the first sign you get of a disease spreading particularly a respiratory virus like this
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Which doesn't kill people immediately
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It's pretty impossible to tell what's going to be the case in about a week or two
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But it could be terrible
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We do not really know at this point whether of the the lagging indicator is going to spike in the way that it did
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The first time around and here you have Alex doing everything in his power to make sure that things go worse
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Not only is he holding a rally on Sunday where masks are explicitly discouraged
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He's telling his audience to avoid going to the hospital if they're sick because the doctors will just kill you for money
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If I believed such a thing were possible, I would suggest that Alex is being paid by COVID-19
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He's doing all the things that are most likely to facilitate spreading the virus like trying to start a national movement against mask wearing and
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Attempting to bring large groups of people together
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He's working overtime to demonize anyone who takes the virus seriously, like Dr. Fauci or the entire CDC
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He's building elaborate conspiracy theories to convince his audience not to take appropriate steps if they end up sick themselves
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Which will increase the likelihood that they'll have a more severe case or spread it to others
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the real-world function of how his show is is that he's kind of on the side of the virus if you if you really
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Look down at the impact if there was a shadowy
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organization of globalists with the explicit intent of trying to cull the population
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No one could be doing a better job for them than Alex right now
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Yeah, I mean Alex and Hannity as long as we stipulate that that doesn't exist
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It doesn't exist in the imaginary World War one does
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He is doing the bidding of that which which is more illness. Yes, exactly
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He's a monster who is killing people. So
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Alex believes that the only thing that's going to work is
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For Trump to take out his enemies sure, but there's a problem
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I mean the New World Order is running a Marxist-Leninist collapse play and are in every financial
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Publication saying depression into the dollar end of America. We are being taken down. It's so criminal
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And the only response would be
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Trump declares what's happening. They arrest the conspirators because it's a foreign coup. It's a globalist coup, but
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The country's so undermined and we're so used to appeasing that if Trump did that they've already got the CFR saying the military's gonna
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Kill him or have him arrested
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Did not say cuz let me tell those fighting on the daily show. You just want to play golf and act off
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they don't yeah falling about America, and they're all invested in China and
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They just think they're gonna retire off they're not
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The globalists are gonna have hardcore purges in this country
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And these generals and people of this country Falls are gonna be hiding out in third-world countries wishing that had done something
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But it doesn't matter because they were bred and created because they were cowards and un-american
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Okay, and in the last 50 years for this moment to bring this country down
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So let me just as a long-term plan
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Things totally collapse the average leftist is gonna be a starving maggot in the street, and it's me
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They're gonna be in a communist forced labor camp. Ooh, I mean mister anti police state mister anti FEMA camps
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Take solace that our enemies will be in camps after this. Yeah, that'll be great. That'll be great. All right
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Fuck down eggs
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So he goes even further with it about Trump needing to kill folks off sure and he might have shown
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A few cards here instead all Trump's got to do is take about a hundred people on a helicopter ride and all this was stopped
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But he doesn't have the people he doesn't have the military because America is rotten to the core
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So that's unsettling to hear from Alex. Oh, we would totally have a coup and we would be run by a military dictatorship
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But unfortunately Trump doesn't have the the control over the military. I don't know what's going on
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Why wouldn't he have control over the military?
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I don't know what's going on. Why wouldn't he have control over the military?
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So for those of you who don't know the term helicopter ride is something that's caught on over the last few years in the more
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explicitly fascist corners of the Internet
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Though others have used the method of throwing people out of planes and helicopters as a way of killing political dissenters
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The term is most directly associated with Chilean dictator
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Augusto Pinochet who used helicopters to kill many of the people who posed a threat to his regime
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And that's who you want the American president to be related to. Alex seems to be saying that. In 2015
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This started to become a meme on 4chan and other in unsavory places where posters would couch their desire to kill their political
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Opponents by saying that they should go on a helicopter ride
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They latched on to this specifically because under his rule thousands of Chileans were executed tortured and turned or disappeared and a large number
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Of them are what you would call leftists
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Pinochet rose to office after a coup which was backed by the United States against the socialist government under President Salvador Allende
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Pinochet would rule Chile until
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1990 and in that time he would embezzle shitloads of money kill and imprison unknown numbers of mostly left-wing dissenters and overall just be
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A big pile of shit. And the same thing is happening in Bolivia right now
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That was all bullshit that was run over on them too
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The Trump enthusiast right-wing has taken Pinochet on as a bit of a hero because of this
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He overthrew an elected left-wing government and then went about slaughtering people who were not on board with his dictatorship
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This is what people like Alex want. They viewed the 2016 election as being their version of Pinochet's
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1973 military coup over Allende and there's a frustration that Trump hasn't acted the same way Pinochet did after assuming power
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You can see this all over the place. At fascist demonstrations
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You'll frequently see people with free helicopter ride shirts or the also popular Pinochet did nothing wrong shirts
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This is what Alex wants
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He supports Trump because he wants to live in a right-wing
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Dictatorship where anyone expressing left-wing ideas gets thrown out of a fucking helicopter
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It's pretty much obvious to me all the time, but on occasions like this. He makes it a little bit too explicit
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Yeah, and he he's just he's really on this this tip of like kill
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Everyone and he goes on like even extending it into his weird sci-fi shit. So where are the libertarians now?
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We're run by the UN. We're run by China. We're run by Hollywood. We're run by the universities
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We're run by the media because they're all bigger than the government
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We don't need a big government to be bigger than them. We need the government to execute the authority of we the people
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Hmm, who's we the people and we need Trump to execute order number 66 and I'm dead damn serious
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But it's not gonna happen because it doesn't exist. Yes
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Neither the do the Jedi that is true. That is true on a factual basis in case there's any non prequel fans
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Order 66 was the order that the Sith planted in the clones which made them view all Jedi as traders and this subject to execution
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This was a very bad thing that allowed the bad guys to consolidate power by virtually wiping out all the good guys. You know, people don't talk about the way that the Emperor revolutionized the the economy of the Empire, you know, a lot of people are like
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How dare they blow up Alderaan?
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But what they don't give them credit for is revitalizing Alderaan's economy before of course exploding the entire planet
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That's that's worth killing the young exactly, okay
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Honestly, Alex cannot be any clearer that he understands he's on the evil side here
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What with rambling about Trump executing order 66 and wishing his imagined enemies would be given helicopter rides
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He's pretty open about being on the bad side. He just doesn't care anymore that it's obvious
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Yeah
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If you're listening to this show and you're into Alex whether you realize it or not
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You're aspiring to be a follower of Pinochet and Emperor Palpatine while pretending that you're super into the Constitution
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And it's fucking pathetic. It really is. It's absurdly sad
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The fact that they're getting so open with it though is in some ways a good sign
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It means they feel like they are really getting their asses kicked. They feel like they're losing
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That's that's why they're ramping up their rhetoric to
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Execute everyone I don't like
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Because they're losing but then that when that happens they tend to start executing people they don't like and then they win again
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So we got to keep them from doing that part. I don't know we got to stop them
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There's one thing though that like keeps people on board and that is
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Have you ever
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Like I don't know like you've been in a situation where like you really want to care it and someone
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Shows you a carrot and you're like, I'm gonna grab that get that carrot
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But then it moves out in front of you that son of a bitch. Why'd you move that carrot?
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You're like I'm gonna go after that carrot again, then it moves forward a little more
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Yeah, you know then you stare at the carrot for a second. You're like, what the fuck?
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Why is that carrot levitating and you're like, oh shit, there's a string there and you realize it's on a stick. Yeah
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Alex does a little bit of that. I mean these people always do
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It's like hey, man, just wait till after the election
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Now, you know why they're trying to crawl to race war and crash the economy and keep us locked down and say America's the blame
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for the virus and then lie about all the stuff because they're
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Going to be destroyed if Trump wins again because they're all gonna go to prison
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But here's the problem
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If they win, they're gonna purge all of us, but not without a fight
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So choose your adventure peacefully fix things now or war
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physical war oh
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Here she comes
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So I understand falling for Trump's whole lock her up thing the first time around back in 2016
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It was pretty clearly not going to happen
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But I understand how you could get caught up in the moment and think that if he got elected
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He was really gonna put Hillary in prison
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Sure
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But now four years later Hillary is not in prison nor any of the other folks who Alex and Trump fans like to yell about
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Obama Susan Rice Eric Holder Bill Gates George Soros, they're all doing fine
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Yeah
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Trump's people on the other hand are not looking so great his personal lawyer Michael Cohen pled guilty to a bunch of crimes and agreed
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to cooperate general Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI and would be going to jail if it weren't for the super corrupt Department
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of Justice know
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Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort was found guilty of five counts of tax fraud four counts of failing to disclose bank accounts of
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Two counts of bank fraud and was sent to jail until he was released to house arrest due to kovat 19 concern
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Yeah, but you know, don't worry
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It's really important that he be released from prison due to kovat 19 to not a lot of other people though
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I think I think I'm gonna support it still cuz I think it'd be hypocritical not to know of course, but yeah
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It's fuck him. I'm not mad about him being out. I'm mad about other people being right
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Yeah
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Man affords associate Rick Gates pled guilty to conspiracy against the United States and lying ultimately making a plea deal to only get 45 days
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In jail and three years probation Roger Stone is probably going to be in prison within about two weeks unless Trump pardons
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He will not spend we even said this on our show when when how long ago was that? Well, he's never gonna spend a day
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I would love to see like if this were not reality. Yeah, I would love to see Trump humble Roger by making him
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couple weeks
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But since it's reality, I'm concerned that he'll get like a last-minute pardon, of course he will but I also think like
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It's too much going on. Nobody's gonna be held accountable. But if you pardon whomever you do
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Why hasn't he done it? Because why that's weird. Why do it?
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Why gave why give yourself the headache until you have to I don't know and nobody's gonna do anything about it
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I can just fire whomever he wants for no reason. It's very it's all disaster. It's very weird
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Yeah, I would have suspected you would have done it already
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But whatever who maybe I would predict that unless Trump executes order 66 upon his reelection
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The only people who are gonna end up jail are more people. He's friends with. Yes, that seems to be
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What the the plan? Yeah, and if if
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We had a Department of Justice that was you know, real Trump would already be in prison for fuck's sake
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It's a chance. Yeah, so there's a conventions coming up political conventions
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Yeah, and the Democrats have announced that they're going to be doing a largely virtual convention
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Which is probably the safest decisions because they're afraid of masks or not afraid of Matt
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It's because they're killing people. They're globalists or what are why are they doing a non? Well, Alex will explain
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All right, good Democrats to hold largely viral
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virtual convention
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Virtual conventions so they can
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Remove by that the key time and put in who they're really planning and even the hill has told you Hillary and Obama are planning
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To run as president and VP the claim. It's legal and lawful. I'm sure it's Obama doing it. He's black. You're racist. Yeah
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That's been announced that's been announced
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I am against Obama doing it and it is not because I'm a racist the filing deadlines are long past at this point
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So this is an absurdly unlikely thing to have come about
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If Hillary and Obama wanted to run on a third ticket or like an independent ticket
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They would actually still have the time to get the signatures and be put on state ballots, but there's no chance of that
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In this weirdo fantasy scenario where they're running
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They will be on the Democratic ticket and that like they wouldn't have any delegates go again
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No
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a contested convention will only happen if there isn't a clear winner of the state's
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primaries and caucuses and that's not gonna be the case this year mostly because Biden already won 2171 delegates of the
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1991 that are needed to clinch the nomination. Ah, that's how they're gonna sneak him in, right?
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Bernie was the only other candidate that could possibly have even come close and he suspended his campaign on April 8th and endorsed Biden
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all of the candidates including the ones the weirdos on the right love like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang have all endorsed Biden the
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Convention is pretty fine to do as a virtual thing because it's a formality at this point
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Yeah
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I know Alex is obsessed with the idea of Hillary running again so he can just coast on anti Hillary
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Sentiment in his audience and fundraise off it, but I don't really see a way that's gonna happen. No, you know
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There's I don't see a real path. I don't know my prediction is still however that
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Martin Luther King jr. Granddaughter will become president this year. That's my predict
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I don't remember if the time traveler said it happened this year. Oh, it could be 2024. Yeah. No, it was a non-election year
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Okay
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So then that means obviously I think I recall it was like
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2026 or something. Okay. I can't remember exactly but there were there were many problems. I'm excited the prediction
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I'm looking forward to it. So in this next clip Alex yells about how his imagined enemies like Fauci
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Cuomo the people actively trying to save his life right now. They're murderers. Okay, Governor Cuomo guilty Tony Fauci guilty
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Of murder murder murder murder. Oh and then guilty of what find the CIA and the FBI
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Want me to know that they there's chatter at the joint terrorism task forces
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Why they've got a hit team ready to come kill me as if I give a damn you see you think oh, oh god
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Don't kill me
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I'm gonna shut up so you can murder old people and homeless people and keep killing babies burn in hell
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Get you don't you worry you can do nothing to me you scum. I
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Am NOT a cowardly sack of garbage like you you will be destroyed by God
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You you you it's you that should be scared
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I'll assure you you spiritually blind rats you vampires
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the
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Sun is coming high noon's coming and you know what happens to people like you in the blazing light
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I
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transcend
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You will be destroyed. I was just listening to that in like ad ad ad
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Yep, do an ad. Yep. You resisted somehow. He did
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I don't know what's going it was that was a meatball right over the plane
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How is the time shift into go right into it? Yeah? I was I was shocked
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That's bananas also, so weird others this trend of everyone warning Alex well ahead of time
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As a child he had a warning that say the police are gonna kill him and now as an adult years
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Just don't assassinate right you don't warn people before he assassinated. That's the whole trick
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I suspect it's more an indication of lying. Oh, it could be that too. Yeah, it could be that so there's videos going around on
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social media of a
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Woman at a City Council meeting in Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah the Parks and Rec City Council
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It was what a lot of people compared it to yeah, there's one
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There's a number of clips that were going around, but most people were like oh my god
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Alex oh
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My god, this is amazing slightly different, okay?
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Men and women are getting up in Texas in New York and Florida and California
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And they're saying everything
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There's video on info Wars calm where this woman just tears this hell out of and I saw seeing him play a short clip last
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Night, and they were scared because they know it's CNN. What they were they
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Were they scared buddy you're gonna pay so good. I can't wait as vengeance is God
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And I can feel the vengeance
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You're gonna pay good. Don't you worry. You're gonna burn in hell so fake. It's just yeah, so
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artificial I
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That's I almost feel in in like my human side almost does feel a certain level of empathy for Alex because I think of
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Imagining putting myself in that space where I have to watch somebody who is clearly unwell
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Shout at a city council about nonsense and be like my job is to say that's great
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Uh-huh whoa that sucks. That's real tough. Yeah, that'd be really tough. Yeah
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Yeah, it's a box you put yourself really does suck, right? Yeah, well. I mean it falls short of me feeling bad for him
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No, no yeah, so this next clip Alex makes it a little bit too clear
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I mean he said things like this in the past, and we've noted it, but one of the things
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I think is always important to constantly remind people of is that like this is a
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Religious thing for Alex like all of this political stuff all these things are kind of tools
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He said it explicitly on the show before that like the ultimate goal is getting people to accept Jesus. Yeah, he is version of
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This is a crusader exactly and he gets to that a little bit here when you try to physically yourself beat it
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It's very spiritual. It's very hard to describe. You just have to say no. God's the armor. God's gonna do it
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I'm gonna put the facts out and trust in God, but as a man. I just constantly feel like I'm a piece of garbage
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You are this evil trash to do this, but when you look at how weak their slaves are feel sorry for them. They're slaves
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Because that's Satan an ancient evil entity in control of this and you cannot beat it without God
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You cannot beat it you have to give it to God so I mean there's like okay for 20 years on the radio
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I've been yelling about the political machinations of these
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Globalists sure and apparently the only way to defeat them is God
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This has just been a religious fraud the entire time masquerading as some kind of like analytical anti-communist show or what?
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That's very annoying so
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Alex at this point has reverend Childress on of course he was supposed to be on the other day
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But he had someone a family member in the hospital, so they had to bump it
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He's the guy who runs a website called black genocide, which is just all about abortion. Yep, so one issue guy
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You you do have to give it up for people with focus
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You know people who aren't shotgunning it all over the place this dude's got a very simple idea
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He wants to get across
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But he is also still shotgunning because there's so many different things that all just trace back well of course
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So I was gonna just ignore this entire interview because I don't I don't particularly care
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But he kept saying things on my cold on now, and here's the first one I
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Said there has to be something
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extraordinary
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something of a
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Of a global something that would really impact the election November could back in January they realize
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That indeed there was no way they were going to beat Donald Trump in November
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There's no way and so in the in the nation we only go find that you said that you said something big's coming
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They can't beat him. They're gonna pull something big
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Right and why it went beyond my expectations to be quite honest with you, but this is it the Kovac I?
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Think they got a little bit ahead of time
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They were gonna do something else when it came to George Floyd that was more or less a gift
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But so they ran with that. I think it was premature
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They were gonna pull something in August on the race stuff, but they went early cuz Floyd was powerful footage
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Very good very good. Well you got that one right straight on and there's no doubt about it
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Prove any of that these people should be wearing straight jacket
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This is just not people should be wearing straight jacket every single thing every single thing is about secretly
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It's about trying to win an election. What are you fucking talking? Yeah? It's outrageous
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Jesus Christ yeah, so George Floyd was a gift well for the left who want to defeat Trump
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We're it's so world to these people live in where that's an okay thing
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You know is you know is it is it solipsistic is that is that how you would describe that I mean
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It's so suppose because it's only really in relation to how they feel about stuff
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You know it's not like the election or or the government even is real to them people who are protesting and people who?
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You know are having these conversations
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around
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The various people who the police have murdered not just George Floyd, but in the aftermath of that this conversation that's happened
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Alex seems to think that they don't have any feelings or any point
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It's not like their reality doesn't exist outside of them just being a tool of some evil cabal to defeat his
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His hero yeah, and that's weird well
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It makes sense because for all of these people nothing is beyond a tool that everything is a prop
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everything is there every news story is there to
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Not to be reacted to with any kind of reality
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But to use as a cudgel against your political opponents
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There's something to that so naturally they assume that the other team has to be doing the same thing as well sure not
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Realizing that the main reason that we're not on their team is because of what they're doing they want to put us in camps
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Thank God. They'll be in camp exactly. Yeah
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Insane so also antifa is in play
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And Childress actually has some like really
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In-depth Intel on antifa that I think is pretty impressive okay, but they're being paid
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$300 a day a friend of mine was on a plane and sat and scaled them
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And you know they always have a couple of cans missing out of the six-pack, and they're openly talking about how much they were paid
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And and whether or not how long they could stay and they got a bonus if they were arrested by the way people need to
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Know that people do need to know yeah, yeah
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Um got a bonus a lot of stuff happens on these planes
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Alex is accosted by
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Globalists who want to get him on board?
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Reverend Childress has a friend who overheard antifa talking about getting paid
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Didn't you see all the antifa planes going around black bloc planes?
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Isn't it so great that Soros is paying us extra if we get arrested. Oh my god. I can't believe I'm overhearing this
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It's not fuck out of hey. You know this huge massive conspiracy that we're a giant part of going around the entire country
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I guess starting a race war. Let's just loudly talk about that and we better. I mean thank God
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There's nobody who's friends with weirdos
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They not get the message this is the antifa plane come on what's going on here all right?
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We flew Southwest so Childress has another thought about black lives matter. He should not he should stop having thoughts
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It's not very good, and I'd like to say publicly that black life matters even on their website
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Basically says they're against the Western nuclear
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family idea or how they feel that that is a
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Western
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Ideology and not anything that would be conducive to the world
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So on the black lives matter website. There is a section titled what we believe in that section
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There is the following paragraph quote we disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family structure
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Requirement by supporting each other as extended families and villages that collectively care for one another especially our children
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To the degree that mothers parents and children are comfortable
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This is intentionally misrepresented by right-wing con men to imply that they want to destroy the idea of a nuclear family when in reality
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It's about inclusion and an approach to community that issues the requirement that people be nuclear family to be family
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You know that old saying it takes a village to yeah well
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What if we just what if we just made that explicit globalist?
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What if we took that old saying that represents commie thousands of years of human existence?
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Realizing that raising a child by yourself or with only one other person is not as
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As successful as raising them as a community that one thing that's existed for thousands of years. That's actually globalism trying to destroy
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dads yeah
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And you notice that these same right-wing dumb-dumbs don't throw a huge fit when every church calls their congregation a family
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Because they understand this concept perfectly well
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They're just maliciously weaponizing fears about it in this case because it's part of a social movement that they feel threatened
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But just say you hate black people that'll do more than enough to get a plenty of people on your fucking side
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Yeah in this next clip
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We get to Reverend Childress bringing up the legacy of Martin Luther King in order to impugn stop it
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the Black Lives Matter
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Black life matters has done everything
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Contrary to the last profound profit in this nation that brought about true social change, dr
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Martin Luther King one he advocated love all right two
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He was nonviolent and spoke continually against
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Nonviolence a certainly looting and rioting and breaking of glass
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Far be it for me to pretend that I fully understand the complete scope of the legacy of Martin Luther King jr
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But even I know that Reverend Childress is full of shit
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For one one of Kings most famous quotes is quote a riot is the language of the unheard
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He expanded on this point in a speech given in
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1967 at Stanford quote in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay and
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As long as the as America postpones justice we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again
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Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantees of riot prevention
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Martin Luther King was a proponent of nonviolent resistance
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But he was also pretty clear that riots were the result of nonviolent resistance not getting anywhere
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That's the whole unheard part of the equation and under this conception
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Which I agree with for the most part riots do not happen for no reason
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People who feel they have access to nonviolent means to affect change do not riot as their first option generally speaking
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I don't know. I don't know if I could think of an example of that we have spent
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So so much time not rioting mm-hmm so much time King even denounced the people who would say that black folks rioting only leads
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to angry white people by saying quote it may well be that shouts of black power and riots and Watts and the
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Harlems and the other areas are the consequences of white backlash rather than the cause of them
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By the end of 1967 there were strong indications that King had changed his mind and embraced riots as a method of protest
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He gave a speech at the American Psychology Association convention that included the following quote
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Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomenon
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They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood
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Urban riots are a special form of violence
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They are not insurrections the rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions
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They are mainly intended to shock the white community
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They are a distorted form of social protest the looting which is the principal feature serves many functions it
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enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods at the ease the white man does by using his purse I
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Was reading a piece in timeline by Hanif Abdur-Raqib
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Which I think put the matter of Martin Luther King's stance on violence quite nicely
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Particularly in the context of how Alex and his ilk try to use his legacy quote
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Beyond the misattributed quotes and bad memes and poor logic made in his name the real tragedy of Kings legacy
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Is that white people who so frequently invoke it in the name of peace do so with a fundamental perversion of his message?
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Non-violence as it is discussed and fetishized in proximity to the poor and or the marginalized is so often dragged out in response
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To any uprising of those people the riot is the language yes
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But the response to the riot is also its own language the language of doublespeak
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the call is for peace and love but the true demand is for complete silence altogether an
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NFL player takes the knee without speaking and is threatened and hated called a violent thug and a racist
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For those of certain skin colors no protest can be peaceful enough
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If somebody hadn't murdered Martin Luther King, and he were still alive today
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I have a hunch that he would be on the side of the protesters
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Oh, maybe and there's one last point
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I want to make and that is just because Martin Luther King had a personal belief in loving the oppressed and the oppressor
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That in no way means that everyone has to do that in order to be legitimate protesters
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You can absolutely hate the people you're protesting and you're just as valid and your act as anybody else
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This all basically just boils down to co-opting and distorting of Martin Luther King's perspective
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which people like Alex do to invalidate any protest they don't like and
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It could load of bullshit. Well. I mean the
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the theory ultimately is
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Non-violent protesters the non-violent are the ones you want at the table in the negotiations
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The violent protesters are how you get them there
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That's the reality of it because we've seen how many we've seen millions of women March and not a goddamn thing was done
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we've seen a few weeks of protest with
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Property damage and holy shit stuff starts falling down a number of things have been done
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Yeah, you want you look. I want the nonviolent people at the table. They're the ones who should be negotiating our future
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I think diversity of tactics can be an important element of
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Of
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protest but I think in terms of particularly when you talk about Martin Luther King and his evolving stance on this stuff a
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Large part of it isn't so much what you're saying in terms of like we need somebody to set a fire in order
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No, of course, right, right. Yeah, that's why Malcolm X was there
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His position was largely the evolved position was more like what do you think is gonna happen? Yeah
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Yeah, this is this is part of
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What happens when?
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things aren't done right and like that abdur-rakib peace was saying like the you know,
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The the calls for peace when there is, you know, a Hardee's burn or something or Wendy's
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Is just an invalidation of your violence towards people like Colin Kaepernick
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He did peaceful symbolic protest you wanted him to die the president called him a son-of-a-bitch, right?
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Yeah, this is this is the the the
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Inst in individual instances exist within a spectrum of things that have happened and trying to pretend that there's some sort of a
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unique or
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overriding culpability for people who commit property damage is
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It's an incomplete picture and all it does is get off the hook all of the people who had the winters of
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Inaction that led to that summer of action. Yeah, and that that that understanding is always absent
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yeah from people like Alex or Reverend Childress when they come on and
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Try and use Martin Luther King's name to invalidate the protests. It's it's disgusting
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Mainly because they are using Martin Luther King jr. To say get back in your place
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Or yes, settle down. Calm down. Wait, be quiet. Wait, don't bother us
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Yeah, oh just just vote just vote in December in November. That'll work. It'll work this time
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I know sure America's how many years old don't worry about it
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Don't think that falls in line with the letter from a Birmingham jail. No, but I'll leave that for another day
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Yeah, so Black Lives Matter apparently was created by Satan which we touch on here
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Why not what that's something Satan has specifically contoured made up to the region the country that you you're in
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some type of ideology and teaching specifically
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Made to draw you out and because this nation has always battled with race
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What do you think he would come up with but with black lives matters? What is he after? He's after Genesis
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He wants to change the definition of the family
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He wants to think that husband wants to take control of the entire life process
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And that's so deep what you just said the leftist CIA admits
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They study every culture in every group for every country to create a weapon system to psychologically control everyone
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Absolutely, but it's it's a devil is making it up. So it's going to be good. Oh, it's gonna be good the leftist CIA
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How many how many left countries does the CIA need to topple before we just consider them?
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Not the leftist CIA. I don't know. This is that's kind of just how Alex can
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Jesus the left right CIA get silly. Fuck a silly get down, but apparently the devil created
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Well, why so he's not busy
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So like I said everything always funnels back to abortion and so here Childress
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Make some statements to have Planned Parenthood
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Founded by the most devout racist of her times a tutor to Adolf Hitler third
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Right provable. We have the data is it
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So they don't want to see it I included that clip
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Like I said just to stress that everything is dude is about boils down to anti-abortion advocacy
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He's a one-issue guest on Alex's show and only exists in terms of infowars as a black voice assuring Alex that Alex can't really be
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Racist because the real racists are people who support reproductive rights exactly Hitler did not like Margaret Sanger
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In fact, her work was burned in the big purge of 1933 along with the writings of Freud and Magnus Hirschfeld
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One of the reasons that the Nazis hated her is because her main work even if they want to say now
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Everything's about abortion
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Her main work was about birth control and family planning which ran counter to the goal of the Third Reich
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which was to create as many Aryan children as possible if
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Nazi women were to fall under the sway of these radical theories about birth control and self-determination
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The plan would be harder to pursue. It would be really difficult
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Similarly Sanger hated Hitler and was a member of the American Council against Nazi propaganda
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It was an active campaigner against the Nazi rise to power in Germany
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Sanger was a proponent of some ideas about eugenics
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That is definitely true and some of it is not good to look back on I do not
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Try to pretend that's not the case
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But in her 1932 work my way to peace she's explicit that any definition of quote
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Unfit could not be based on race or religion
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Still her views I think are a little bit unevolved man. Go back and scratch any
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Pre-eminent feminist of that time, you know, like you start reading Elizabeth
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Scientists. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that is unfortunately
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Stuff that does not does not doesn't age. Well, no, no, this is a load of historical revisionism and character assassinations
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It's being carried out just because these dudes don't like the Margaret Sanger helped women take control of their own lives and have family planning
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They can't stand that so Reverend Childress gets on Alex's show and embarrasses himself by saying that Sanger was one of the demand was the most
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Defout racist of her time. Does he know who was around during her time? No, don't worry about it all of the not
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All of the clan
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All of them?
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She was born in like 1879
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The most devout racist of her time
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The amount of people that he is putting on a scale below Margaret Sanger is outrageous
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Yeah, let's never forget that deep below all this stuff you eventually get down to the ultimate problem
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And it's just dudes. Yeah, just fucking dudes running shit to some extent. Yeah
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At least in a non cooperative way. Yeah, it's a big problem. Yeah, so
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as this ends Reverend Childress has a
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He has a Skype problem and Alex is a devil. He's maybe he's trying to deal with that and he makes a shocking
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announcement
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Thank Reverend Childress his Skype completely cut out and let's get him back on the next few weeks
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Sign up to get him on once a year. We should have Reverend Childress on especially in crazy times like this every two weeks
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And we're getting Pastor Manning. Oh, we got we got one minute left. You're back. Finish your point about polls, sir
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Okay, Rasmussen poll 40% of African Americans likely voters say that Donald Trump is doing
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You now my interest is really paid I
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Don't care about this
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The only reason that clip is fun is because of the sky pledge and then also because Alex says that Reverend Manning is coming
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Back on who of course is the guy who sodomites sent a bucket of poop. Yes. Oh, yeah. Um that interview won't go well
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Oh, no, he hates Trump. He calls him tribulation Trump. Hey, oh
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My god if if Manning comes back on I cannot wait for that episode
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It's gonna be he's gonna be yelling at Alex
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Yeah, it's going to go like two minutes and then fucking Alex is gonna hang up on it the fuck out
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Yeah, cuz he thinks that Trump is intentionally bringing about the end of the world, right? That's Reverend Manning's whole thing. Yeah
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Yeah, so I think Alex has not kept up with him well has just forgotten that there's a reason he's not on the show anymore
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There might be that. Yeah, so that's exciting
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Alex gets to the end of this episode here on the 25th and
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He makes it very clear as he did earlier that God is the only way forward sure. It's his God
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Oh, well, well, don't worry about the God God not capital not the other gods
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We're in it folks and only God can steer us through this thing
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That's the that's the God's honest truth and you all know it and I'm sorry for people that aren't Christian
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I don't believe in God. You got steered wrong when you were a kid or whatever. Oh sure
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There are no atheists and foxholes. Okay, and I know who decides
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So if you have other religions you got steered wrong when you were a kid, it's a real bummer
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Yeah, I feel like I I have a pretty high tolerance for people who like preach
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Transcendence you kind of think maybe not transcendent Transcendental Meditation. Yeah
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Yeah, it's like the idea. What do you have wrong with David Lynch? I don't I don't want to get into it
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I don't have a problem with people who are like really big into the importance of
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Recognizing things outside yourself. Hmm like so and a lot of people can find that through religion
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You don't find it through Christianity or find it through Judaism Islam
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Shinto ism Buddha's whatever whatever you can find a path to connection with something larger and you can do it through
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Atheist means to like or I do it through fucking Steven universe. That's all you yeah, right? I mean
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Sure. Yeah there I
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Don't have a problem with people who are like one of the most important things for us moving forward is
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Recognizing, you know this transcendent ability that we all have within us
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I I think that it's a really easy way to be an entry point to a scam
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But I don't really think that that idea itself is that toxic. No, but once you start getting into like
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Only my version of transcendence is real the rest are a lie. That's when it's it's like hey, man
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This is you're doing cult shit. Yeah, and it's really ugly. Yeah, so we get into the 26th and
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We hear a familiar refrain from Alex every broadcast is important. But this one is going to be particularly over-the-top
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Everything I'm gonna be covering is mega bombshell mega bombshell mega bombshell this one
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Is this a full-on stop your car open your window get other people know this is just a really important one
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We didn't get the stop traffic. Gotcha. Okay, so
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Alex indicates why this is mega bombshell. Mm-hmm
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And oh, but it gets worse on the NIH's own CDC website. We're going to show you this coming up
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Admits that the mask does not keep you from breathing out
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viruses or bacteria and
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Bacteria actually incubate in the cloth live longer than they would
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Allowing it to then be spread which is why we one of the reasons the blue cities noticed over-diagnosed don't just kill people
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But they're keeping people indoors and they're wearing the mask that are
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weapon systems
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to breathe in and
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Then to breathe out totally unfiltered air after it's incubated in the fabric
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Whereas it would just die in seconds in the open air. It allows it to sit there and linger
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There's a few very basic problems with what Alex is saying one the CDC and NIH are two different organizations
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Which Alex is treating as the same thing?
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They're both part of the Department of Health and Human Services
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But their missions are completely different
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The CDC is focused on response control and prevention as it relates to public health issues
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Whereas the NIH is primarily a research based institution
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These groups can work hand in hand and they complement each other
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But Alex seems to think that the CDC is part of the NIH or vice versa, which is just dumb
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Also fun fact Obama had won a CDC head for the entirety of his two terms
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So far in just one term Trump has appointed four different people to lead that group
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Yeah, not because they were all great. Not good. No, no, no, cuz they all nailed it, too
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There's no article about this on Infowars website. So I have no idea what Alex is talking about
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There's one article titled quote bombshell face max masks proven to be detrimental to personal health and well-being
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But that's just a page that has an embedded video of this episode of his show
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It has zero information or links or anything to learn more
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Just intuitively what he's saying makes zero sense
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If this were the case that somehow wearing masks for a brief time was detrimental to your health
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Doctors nurses dentists and all sort of health professionals would be dropping like flies
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When Alex brings up the specifics later, I'll get into it
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But I would at this point when I was listening
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I'm like, I'm not gonna go on a wild goose chase on the CDC and NIH's websites for whatever he's lying about
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Yeah, Oh also totally unrelated
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But on Saturday Newsweek reported on the case of Tim Walters the lead organizer of reopen, Maryland
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Who was an aggressive campaigner against wearing masks turns out he tested positive for kovat 19 after developing vision problems
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a headache and a fever hmm quote Walters suggested that those he has recently come into contact with should monitor their symptoms
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However, he's refusing to cooperate with Maryland contact tracers by providing any personal information that could help them contain the virus
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Turns out he doesn't blame basic science for his getting sick. He's decided that Satan gave him kovat 19
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God damn it. Satan is everywhere
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This is based on the fact that he went to a number of rallies before getting sick, which is really cool thinking. He's what?
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Yeah, that's his so. Mm-hmm if
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Yep
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He's also committed to going out in public
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Without a mask and even even after testing positive which borders on intentionally trying to infect. Yeah. No, that's a crime
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He may not have a chance to do that for long though because quote the 53 year old said he also has diabetes
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while admitting he does not maintain does not always
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maintain healthy habits
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Obviously this dude doesn't represent everyone on his side of things
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But he does represent at least some percentage of them people who will rail against masks hold anti-mask rallies
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Then get sick and not understand
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Still that it's because the the thing that they were doing thing that everyone told them is the thing
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Yes, most likely to get you sick. Yeah, this is this is literally like
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It's terrifying Cambrian levels of thinking it's legitimately terrified
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It is he's from before history like this is like oh no, no, obviously the lightning struck two days ago
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Which is why I have kovat 19 now, right? It was saying yeah
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I would have a lot more empathy for him being in a high-risk category for complications
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But he's insisting on behaving in ways that put everyone around him at risk
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So I'm gonna save my caring for someone else. No, he should be kept inside of his home
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He should be put under house arrest. That's that's
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And you know what?
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The only reason we know about that story is because it's newsworthy because he ran one of these protests
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I don't know the numbers of people who just went to the astonished might have been just astonishing who knows
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Anyway, Alex has a gotcha a moment on Joe Biden. So here is Joe Biden
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Telling us a hundred and twenty million people died in the US that is 40% of the US population dead
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That is not true. It's a hundred and ten thousand and almost all that's fake. Here's proof
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Well people drastically underestimate is the impact on the mental health of people who now everything is complicated
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Not only is the health care piece, but people don't have a job people don't have anywhere to go
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They don't know what they're going to do
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a lot of people you have
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Unnecessarily now we have over 120 million dead from kovat
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100 I mean I
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mean
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What was he gonna say or that in context? It gets even more wacky. What was he gonna say? This is such classic Alex
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What was he gonna say? He said I mean I don't then they cut it off
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I was gonna say I don't know how he forgets to cut that part off
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Like it's so clear if you're listening that Biden immediately corrected himself because he misspoke the full quote is quote now
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We have over 120 million dead from kovat. I mean
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120,000 dead from kovat this is just fake outrage and an attempt to create the impression that Biden sincerely thought there were
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120 million people dead or that he was trying to get that message across to the public when in reality
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He just misspoke and corrected himself. That's the full context. It doesn't get more wacky Alex is just a fraud and a liar
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I can't believe that his
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Super competent team would cut that clip and leave the part where he says I mean
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Yeah, because everybody has already assumed what he's going to say next. Yeah, which is that actually it's a hundred and twenty thousand
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Yes, I found a cut of it that on YouTube that cuts before the I mean, yeah
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There is a clear edit point that you could have used it. Yep. Nope. Gotta you gotta go out in the park
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Yeah, man, you got a you got a really feel for
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Alex's these people are just terrible. I really so Alex teases his big news
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Uh more there is so much to break down
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So much to cover here today and I
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Really want to build this up for everybody because it's so incredibly important. I'm going to cover it in the next segment now
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Do you understand that it's cdc.gov
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At
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Cdc.gov it says the m95 mask spreads
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The disease on page four page four of the website
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Page four of the web that and how sick this is according to what they say
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It's present page four of the CDC's website age for CDC website. Go to page four Alex. Are you my grandma?
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cdc.gov
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Backslash page four, right? Yeah first thing here even without knowing what he's talking about
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Because page four of a website isn't anything that means anything
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No, it's page four and 95 masks are not the same thing as the face masks
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Most of us use they're more sort of the thing that you'd find in a medical setting
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even so everything I can find on the CDC's website says that they have a general filtering efficacy of 95% at least on the
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CDC's page titled
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Recommendation regarding the use of cloth face coverings
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They're clear that face masks are recommended to slow the spread of the virus and that you should not be using in 95 masks
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But not because they don't work quote the cloth mask coverings recommended are not surgical masks or in 95 respirators
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Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for health care workers and other first medical first responders
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Alex is teasing this big news
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But he's provided no indication where this information is coming from other than page for the CDC's website
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Which is almost worse than him saying nothing. It's more confusing. Yeah, what is page four to him? I don't know
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What does he think page four of a website is he has?
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Sheets of paper that some intern printed out and it's on the fourth page
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So so so he turned printed out. Yeah
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All this is I hate old man house phone, right?
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So there's no way for me to track down what any of this is from other than okay
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It's something on the CDC's website that one of his staff printed off and it's the fourth page of the printout
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I got nothing
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This is stupid
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If you're listening to this and you're convinced by it, you're stupid and now Alex is gonna complain about how everyone is stupid
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The IQ of the Western person is going down like a lead
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zeppelin
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And now we got a bunch of zombie like people raging around that don't know what planet they're on
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Or what page websites all part of a plan?
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On what page is that plan? So this is a sabotage of civilization. I'm gonna cover it all
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When we come back in the next segment
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We've got a giant special going right now. It is there it is of July special that we run every year
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That's the same special
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Pivot after you're yelling earlier much better
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different day, but so finally Alex gets down to business and gives out the URL
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This is very disappointing. This is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
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And
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They say on there that masks do not protect you still and
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That you should not wear them unless you're ill but oh, there's something hidden right there. That's even bigger
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Coronavirus disease 2009 personal protection equipment questions and answers
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So this is on the CDC
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Here's the URL cdc.gov
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coronavirus for slash 2009 dash
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in Co V
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board slash HEP
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board slash respirator dash use dash facts dot HTML
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As read by Alex, that's not a real URL
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I was gonna say that's not going to go anywhere now for one thing when he says HEP it should be HCP
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Also, I can't tell if Alex is misreading the year if he's saying
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2009 which it sounds like he is then this can't be information about kovat 19
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But it could possibly be about h1n1 flu, which is the big health concern that year
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I suspect he's just misreading 2019, but I'm honestly not that's kind of what I was assuming. Yeah
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Yeah, either way
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It doesn't matter because Alex keeps talking and it instantly becomes clear what he's messing up here. And what do they tell you right here?
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They tell you on page four of five pages
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Which five pages that the
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The
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Exhaling valve allows unfiltered exhaled air to escape into the sterile field
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So we're told it's to protect other people that you're wearing it in case you've got it be a good person
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Don't expose others when it does nothing except incubate it
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So the first hint that he's not talking about normal face masks is the reference to an exhaust valve
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Your masks doesn't have an exhaust valve. No, no, I'm pretty sure no cuz I know
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Raptor princess made us some masks
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She put valves in there. So this is specifically about masks with valves which are different from cloth masks
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These masks typically have a mechanism which opens when the wearer exhales which defeats the purpose of you or I wearing masks
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The goal is to contain droplets which could infect other people
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So if there's a valve that opens every time you exhale, it's not gonna do anything
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These sorts of masks are specifically designed as protective to the wearer with no concern for what the wearer might be putting back into the environment
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These specific sort of masks of the valves are typically for use in industrial settings or in construction
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While the n95 masks that healthcare workers are there they're pretty much the same but with no valves
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So they don't risk patients getting sick while protecting themselves. Okay, so Alex grabbed
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The one example of the CDC literally actually saying like hey
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Here's the masks you should wear and here's the masks you shouldn't wear. Yes. Yeah. There we go
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It should come as no surprise that for a long time people have been
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Reporting on how you shouldn't wear these masks with valves as a means of limiting the spread of COVID-19
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In 30 seconds on Google. I was able to find the following articles explaining that you should just not use these kinds of masks
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There was the Daily Mail back on April 28th, Insider on May 28th, Fast Company from April 28th
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Boston Globe on May 27th, and there's plenty more. This is old news and Alex is pretending
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It's a bombshell but in reality, he's just lying about what the guidance says
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Wearing masks is effective in stopping particles and droplets from spreading from your mouth and nose
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This efficacy drops when you have an exhalation valve that opens up and lets out these particles and droplets
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This is common sense and there's no big gotcha moment here
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The guidance is to wear masks, but these specific types are not effective for these purposes
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So they're not recommended
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You could wear medical N95 masks that don't have valves
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But you shouldn't because those need to be directed to medical professionals who need them more than you do. It's very simple now
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It is either unwilling or unable to do the approximately two minutes of work that it would be required to report on this correctly
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The thing is it's not laziness or inability that creates this. It's bad will
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Alex knows that the blurb he's reading has nothing to do with a normal mask reading
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He's just intentionally lying to pretend it's related. How could you read that cold and read valves and be like
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Wait, what does this mean? You can't. You can't. You have to have bad will.
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You're acting in a way that is literally hurting people. Listening to you knowingly. This is premeditated
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This is not involuntary. And it's such weak shit. This is not criminal negligence. This is premeditated
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Yeah
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If you're somebody who like thinks Alex is legit and he fucking knows his stuff and you're listening to him read this thing about the
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CDC and their masks with valves and you're not thinking like, huh? My mask doesn't have a valve. No mask
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I've ever seen people wearing generally when I go down to the grocery store. Everyone just has those cloth masks
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I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. Maybe I should look into this. Oh, Alex is full of shit
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Do the Richard Nixon masks have valves in them? Would Patrick Swayze survive this situation?
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I think that the CDC doesn't recommend those. They don't recommend the dead presidents? Yes. Damn.
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So Alex gets to complaining about Melinda Gates because she did an interview that was discussing
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primarily how
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they wanted to get involved in
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vaccine development in this particular case because this was very important and
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Risking the idea of countries having a bidding war over vex this vaccine
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Yeah
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Could be very dangerous because you could artificially inflate the price right to the point where people who were in need didn't have access. Mm-hmm
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Simultaneously, she's discussing how there are different communities who have different
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Grades of need for the vaccine maybe more pressing need
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And Alex is really mad about this, you know
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We know there are 60 million health care workers around the world who are keeping everybody safe
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Oh, they deserve to get this vaccine first
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Oh and from there you want to do tiering in various countries to make sure your most vulnerable populations get it
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In in our country, that would be blacks and Native Americans
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health conditions and the elderly
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Oh back that up 20 seconds
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Okay, oh boy ideally there will be universal access for a potential vaccine that gets developed
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But it's absurd to pretend that different communities aren't in more need than others
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Yeah, for instance, I would very much like a vaccine for myself
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But I recognize that I'm very lucky to be relatively young in relatively decent shape have no
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pre-existing conditions that put me at risk and I'm able to work from home as
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Such though I would want a vaccine as soon as I can get one
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I will gladly postpone getting one if there's a situation where people who are at higher risk than me because of either
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Demographics or because of their line of work if they need to get vaccinated first, that's great
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That's basically all Melinda Gates is getting at it's not something nefarious. Yeah
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Data has been showing that a disproportionate number of black Americans are getting COVID-19 and dying a
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Vaccine will not solve many of these systemic problems that are at the root of what many feel is driving this phenomenon like quote
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over-representation in service industries where social distancing is difficult or impossible housing conditions in some predominantly black communities and higher
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Incarceration rates according to a study put out by the Chicago Urban League
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Though it wouldn't solve those big underlying problems
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It would at least save a bunch of lives which is good
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Also on that point fuck Melinda Gates for not including incarcerated persons on her list of people who should have a high priority for vaccine
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No shit. See Jordan
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It's possible to agree with her underlying point while also still critiquing that even some little parts of her point
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Even though that she has a decent point
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She fails to recognize one of the largest groups that needs to be helped at a highest priority now
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I understand that disagreement. However, what you're missing is that she only mentioned
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Black people and Native Americans because they're the targets of the vaccine first to kill them all then wipe them out
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That's that's Alex's point
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That's that's his theory why in God's name would you if you have a vaccine that kills people?
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Why would you first give it to health care people that makes no sense, right?
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and then our
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Clip too before she says that people who work at like grocery stores
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And yeah be packing plants and stuff like that are also considered in her wave of like the people who are in the most need
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Of it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean it's just stupid Alex is just trying to race bait
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He's just that's all he's doing. Yep
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Yep
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So Alex starts rambling about Bill Gates his mom and it's really interesting to me that he never really bothered to learn what her name is
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Was running the health department in Seattle in 1983
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You know who was on the board
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overseeing it
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She was a banker
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She was the first woman on a major corporate board in the United States
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Her husband ran Planned Parenthood her name was mrs. Bill Gates
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Bill Gates's mother is named Mary Ann Maxwell. No, it's mrs. Bill Gates
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Okay, cuz he married his mother. Uh-huh Maxwell was appointed to the Board of Regents of the University of Washington back in
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1975 and she led a campaign to divest from South African holdings in order to fight apartheid so good on her
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Hey, great job in 1983. She became the first female head of the United Way. That's what Alex is talking about
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She never ran the Seattle Health Department, which actually isn't a thing
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There's the King County Public Health Department or the umbrella of the Washington Department of Health
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But I don't know what Alex is talking about
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He's claiming that Bill Gates mom ran a thing that he got the name of wrong and he can't even be bothered to know her
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Name, this is a man who just doesn't give a fuck about appearing credible at all
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He just knows that his audience accepts whatever so why try ha see
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Did you know that it was mrs. Bill Gates all the way back in the 80s who created kovat 19 cool, man
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Did you know that mrs. Bill Gates? I gotta go. Okay. All right. All right
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So Alex gets another guest on and this is weird now Jason Edwards is a very interesting caller
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Made points better than I can make them
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So I thought why not get him on as a guest and we want to do more and more just get
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Really good callers. All the callers are amazing. The phones are good. Their points are always good
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Read no one else wants to go on my show anymore and get them on the show
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Yeah, so Alex had a caller the day before and he's like, oh good. Let's fucking do a guest. That's not a good sign
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No, no matter what show you're doing. I
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I mean, there's some ways to do it
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That could be fun
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like if you're having a show where like a caller calls in and like I don't know I
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Feel really for Alex. This is this is sad, you know, Chris Gethard did all of that stuff, right?
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Yeah, you're not Chris Kathy audience engagement in and of itself. Not bad. No, but
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This is dumb. In fact, it can be transcendent in a way. So Alex talks about or he talks with this caller guest
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And this guy really not great genius. No level so sad to be in church
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I'm just gonna be straight up and I see people with mask on I'm like, okay
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I understand you got to meet everybody else at their faith, but the Lord came to heal and give sight to the blind
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So if he wasn't scared to touch the leopards man
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I'm gonna tell you if you feel you got coronavirus man, come to me. I'll pray for you
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I stand in the gap right now in the name of the most high almighty creator. Absolutely
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Absolutely. All right. Is that like
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Did he just declare himself Jesus?
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Maybe um, I'm more concerned about this sort of like they're like illness denial, you know
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like just sort of a
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There is no cure for anything other than God you have to first allow the virus into your body
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Well, that is true
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We're here each other and once you allow the virus into your body
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Which you shouldn't have done and if you had just taken my six thousand dollar a month course
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You would never have done that. We are like really close to snake-handling. Oh totally
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Really close to that guy believes that lightning is why he got sick. Yeah
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So I might as well be the same Alex wraps this up and he has another guest and I didn't even give a fuck
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I mean, he just lays it all out
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So I'm gonna let him go over all with us right now and tell us about
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What he saw why he did it and where he thinks this is all going. So thank you so much for coming on
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With us, mr. Hartwig and you're at gofundme.com
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Forward slash Facebook insider you obviously sacrifice your job and a lot more to do this
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So people should support so this is another project Veritas guy who worked at cognizant. Yeah
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Yeah, great. So I I mean whatever comments I had about the first guy apply them here
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They're rollover. It's like rollover minutes. I will say that this guy I feel bad for him because
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His gofundme is not making nearly as much as the other guy
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Mmm, although the other guy slowed down a bit man 30-something thousand in the first day then I checked up again
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It was only like 40,000 which still is too much, but it doesn't you know you I
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Don't think this is going to I don't think either of them are gonna hit their hundred fifty thousand
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So I'll tell you what, you definitely don't want to be the third guy on the lunar landing
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No, I'll tell you that right now. You don't you don't want to be like I
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This guy is going to have just as much like
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Google ability for future jobs and stuff who wants to try and yeah
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You know like if you just google his name
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You'll now come up with a bunch of project Veritas bullshit, and he's not even getting the payout that the other dude is
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That's a real bummer. It's bad strategy. He's trying to get in on the scam, and he just he just
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Miffed it. He just blew it so um yeah, I don't care about him. He sucks
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Yeah, we got this next clip though Alex
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We do need to remind you that Alex has his rally coming up this weekend
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Oh boy, so Alex talks about that here. We can't breathe dot news can't have our big protest demonstration coming up
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This Sunday high noon, Texas Capitol Southside be there or roll over to total slavery
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So again fuck Alex for his stupid racist bullshit with the naming
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I wanted to play that clip because since the last episode that we recorded I've stumbled onto an article about his rally on the
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Infowars website that I find pretty distasteful and a bit of an affront
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Oh boy, Alex posted an article with the headline quote new new movement hijacks
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I can't breathe a meme to protest masks in public
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That's an interesting headline for two reasons the first is that before they had any events before there's anything going on
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He'd already branded this a movement. There's no momentum behind it, but this is a new movement
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Grassroots sad grassroots movement everybody that's sad
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but sadder is the fact that Alex thinks that I can't breathe as a meme that he has any right to hijack I
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Understand that he's a racist and opportunist
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But I even struggle to really accept that that he's this much of a monster and that this is how he feels he can act
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Yeah
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You would think the basic human decency would stop you from taking
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Multiple people's last words as they were being killed by police and then just use them for your unrelated publicity stunt
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There is a coherence when Black Lives Matter protests chant. I can't breathe or they use that term on a sign
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They're protesting against police brutality, which is the reason those words were uttered in the first place. It makes sense
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It's not a meme in the sense that Alex uses that word
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It's a distillation of the protests message that brings to the forefront the seriousness of the issue being protested
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For Alex, he seems to think that because he believes that they're just demonic globalist
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opportunistically using George Floyd's death in order to usher in a dictatorship
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He can just use the power of those words and then use them for his own purposes
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What he fails to understand is that much like Thor's hammer
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This is a weapon he can't wield and the words have no power in his hands
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His attempts to harness what's behind these words that he thinks are just a meme only reveals his desperation and his cravenness
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This probably wouldn't be enough to justify talking about this again
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But I thought that there was something hilarious about this post
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Alex is really trying to pretend that he didn't start this whole thing
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The article begins quote freedom lovers in Texas have launched. We can't breathe
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I know get the fuck out of here
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He's trying to act like he didn't create the movement that he's trying to create. Yes. God what a fucking dick through most of this post
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There's the third person tone referring to this as a group of freedom lovers and that quote
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Alex Jones and infowars crew will be attending
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However, they slip up and start using the first person we about halfway through the post of course
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They do that could have been avoided if they had a competent editor working now
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They can't get a competent editor. This is essentially a press release for their stupid March, but they're trying to mask
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Unintended the fact that they are behind the entire thing
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I think that they've probably learned that when they do things that are infowars branded
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It's a little too transparent that they're just publicity stunts. Yeah, they're trying a different approach
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And I want to say this this is super dangerous on
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Saturday the Austin American statesman reported that quote Austin health officials last week saw the highest rate of positive
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coronavirus tests of any metro area in the nation
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Austin mayor Steve Adler warned quote if you venture out know that you are multiples more likely to get infected today than two weeks ago
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Legitimately Alex could not be doing more to facilitate the spread of the virus if you wanted to I
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Saw some videos earlier today from the feeds of Alex's protests, and there are maybe a few hundred people there
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I'm being very generous with my estimate, but it was a horrible turnout compared to other recent protests
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One part of Alex's plan that is really flawed and kind of funny when you think about it
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Is that there's a giant gate in front of the governor's mansion?
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So he just had a bunch of people outside a gate with Alex yelling a bunch of catchphrases into a PA system
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During Alex's speech the cameraperson panned around the audience to show that was a bad idea. It's pretty thin. It's really discipline
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Depressing and disappointing for him and hopefully doesn't end up killing anyone hmm
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If it does that's that's on him mm-hmm. Let's live. That's literally on him
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I mean he literally said mask wearing is discouraged exclamation point. Yeah, no, that's that's that's his fault
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He killed a man if somebody dies who was at that rally this um this might killed a man
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But now he didn't freedom lovers in Texas sure all right, okay?
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I like where you're going with this Dan
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Maybe this is a attempt to dodge culpability in the possibility that there are some negative
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Outcomes it is so funny to me that he tries to co-opt like other right-wing
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Protests and shit and make them about him and this time now. He's trying to co-opt his own
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Protests to make it about him and act like it's not
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Bananas yeah, so here's where we get to the payoff of
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Alex being embarrassed by someone he admires of course
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We heard on our last episode Alex talking about how G Edward Griffin was talking about the communist plan yes back in the 60s
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Yes, yes, yes G. Edward Griffin is a og anti-communist
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He is a weirdo of the highest order
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And we've talked about him a bit in the past and because of the popularity that this video of him from the 60s was getting
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He was being trafficked around sure all these social trotted him out for though
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Yeah, Alex has to bring him out to try and get whatever attention. He can write from that yeah now
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That's all good and well
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G Edward Griffin does not have a problem with Alex because Alex you know way back hated the Federal Reserve and
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You know three senators G. Edward Griffin would come on Alex's old documentaries of course like he they know each other from raw and polished
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Yeah
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unfortunately
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G Edward Griffin not so into Trump well, let's turn to COVID
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Mr.. Trump is the topic he he says I these the this COVID thing is
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Exaggerated and he says all the things that you're talking about and I am and then he says well
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Yeah, I'm ready to put the military out there
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I'm happy to announce that we got the military ready to go force it vaccines on everybody know what?
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How do you put those two things together? I don't know
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It's no I agree that really concerned me when he said that did it yeah
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So you go up and down the line whether it's immigration or vaccines or violence in the street that the words are one thing
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But the actions are another oh boy
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boy, I
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Don't want to engage with this, please
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I'm talking with a gee gee do something else say something else talking to someone. I can't disrespect
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No, it was troubling what he said, but I want him to use a military to kill my enemy
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We're now gonna play a little game where I'm gonna try and ask you to guess what he pivots to okay
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Well, because he doesn't want to talk about now. Um, I
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You know what? I'm gonna go easy slam-dunk
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Abortion. Mmm. Good guess. No. Oh the words are one thing, but the actions are nothing
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What do you make of Biden not able to talk in a in the rotting there it is
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What's the point of that with the establishment? Why are they leaving these these?
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Facades there. So what's really interesting here is of course Alex pivots to talking shit about the Democrats because he thinks that's safe territory
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Yeah, it is not. Oh when they've got other people behind the scenes
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But that's a good question, I mean there's several possible answers and maybe they really don't intend to
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To put up a good fight maybe they for some reason they want
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Mr. Trump to be in
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That's a horrible thought, isn't it?
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Or they've got a placeholder ready that they're gonna insert once Biden gets in. Yeah, and there's several possibilities
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So now G Edward Griffin has introduced the possibility that the globalists want Trump to be president
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This is a big problem for Alex. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Okay next topic next topic. What do we got?
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He's lightning round that is anathema. Oh Alex's worldview. Oh everything he said for the last four or five years
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Cannot coexist with that idea. No, they have to be trying to kill him
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G Edward Griffin wrote the Beast from Jekyll Island
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One of the oh like original early days John Birch guys never meet your heroes
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So it leads to probably one of the most
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Embarrassing things I've ever heard Alex. All right, and China broke its deal under Obama started doing military expansionism
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So they did the pivot and Trump the globalist saw a populist movement
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And so the globalist said hey
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Let's get out of the way and let Trump and Bolsonaro and others get in
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And then we can negotiate better with China for a better deal and really Trump doesn't even know this but he's been put in
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And people did elect him
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to be a
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Broker to get China to come to heel which of course they won't it's kind of like Hitler and Stalin had their pact and split
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Poland and
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So you really want to analyze all this that's my research view is that what what he's doing?
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But he is trying to be popular and he's in there
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He's trying to gauge everything and he's drawn from a swamp and he's on our mess. Are you talking wrote in on a populist wave?
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That is it going away?
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So if you need an indication that Alex is having a bad time with Trump
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If you need an indication that Alex is having a bad time with this interview, it's that he just said that wow
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Yeah, wow that clip which Alex says is based on his deep researched opinion is kind of an invalidation of literally
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He's everything he's ever said about Trump everything
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The first contradiction is that the globalists are supposed to hate Trump
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They were supposed to have been working tooth and nail to stop Trump from winning the election
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They carried out election fraud
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They bust in people to vote in the names of dead people Obama spied on Trump and set up this whole plan to get him impeached
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But now Alex is suggesting that the globalists saw that there was populism going on
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So they said let's step out of the way and let Trump get in there. Well, yeah
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that's a gigantic problem for Alex's narratives because if that's what he believes he now has to find an explanation for all that globalist meddling he's
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Been screaming about for the last four years
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If the globalists decided to step aside and let Trump in is Alex ready to admit he was making up everything about people being
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Bussed in to vote illegally
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Is he ready to admit that there wasn't a grand conspiracy to entrap Trump associates that led to uh, the the election
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You know
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Whatever in the lead-up
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I would imagine he's not and he's just saying the shit because he knows that g edward griffin
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Isn't just gonna blindly go along with his bullshit like most of his guests will
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G edward griffin doesn't need Alex's dumbass. He's a legend of anti-communism
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Alex needs him
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The second big contradiction in that clip is that the globalists decided to get Trump into office to get a better
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Negotiating position with China, although Trump doesn't even know this and also they're trying to kill him simultaneously poisoning his diet
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Yeah, yeah simultaneously the problem here is that according to Alex the globalists are in bed with China
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They're basically partners in all of the evil plans Alex yells about all the time
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So there's literally no reason they would need to elect an idiot president in order to get a better negotiating position with them
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If there was some goal they had they could just be like hey china
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How about you help us out with this one thing that'll help our long-term plans and then china be like cool
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On the surface this is nonsense that Alex is saying
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But if you think about it for even a minute in that very short clip Alex has directly
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Contradicted a giant part of his shows mythology everything also not to be ignored in that analogy about Poland
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I think Trump is Hitler
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Yeah, he has to be if you assume China is the stand-in for Poland that the two sides are
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Negotiating about you know like the globalists and Trump on behalf of the populists
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Obviously the globalists would be Stalin since they're communist demons which leaves Trump as Hitler seems like a bad thing for Alex to be
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Suggesting well he is a white nationalist
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Well, okay Alex doesn't mean any of this and will probably pretend. He never said it in the future
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He's just trying to appease this legendary anti-communist guest who clearly doesn't trust Trump
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And he thinks maybe that the globalists to put Trump into office
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Alex is bending the knee to Griffin because he knows he can't defend his position
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And he's not willing to get into a fight with someone who's way more credible in the far right than him and who is
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More willing to just go directly at his face. Yeah like not doesn't have a vested interest
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Yeah, being foolish. I mean he is foolish
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No, he's absolutely foolish not in the same ways as Alex and he's not going to try and maintain his relationship
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Oh, no, Alex is mad at me
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I think I give a strongly disagree with G Edward Griffin, and I think he's full of shit
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But I will say that from everything I understand about him
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He's had a pretty rigid position for like 50 years 60 years
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So like I don't I don't think that he is the sort who's going to be like oh
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Yeah, all right Alex all yes, and with you no kidding
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Yeah, Alex on the other hand has no principles nothing matters
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And so when G Edward Griffin gives him some sort of pushback on like yeah
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You know Biden's a weak candidate because the establishment and the globalists want Trump to be in power
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Alex will create an entirely new story lies and then just be an instant and then toss it aside
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Yep, whatever gets me out of this argument. How can I'm a narcissistic psychopath?
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But how confusing must that be if you listen to his show and believe him?
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So confusing I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know
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I don't know how anybody could listen to the show period right without experiencing some serious pain
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Yeah, you know like something in your brain has to you have to just pop up. Yeah, you have to give up
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely we got two more clips left here from June 26th, and I would submit these as
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One reason from Alex and one reason from G Edward Griffin why nobody should ever support Trump, okay?
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But they're not necessarily being presented as bad things which I think is weird bad
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Here's the here's Alex's looking at Trump
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I was talking to somebody very close to him just the other day, and they said listen
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Trump you got to know how to manipulate him come out and say Bill Gates is more powerful than him and really the president and
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Trump will squash him and it's actually true, and I can't bring myself to play manipulative games
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I just can't get into that mode
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But that's the problem with Trump is literally if we just run headlines that Bill Gates is more
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Powerful than him and that he's really the president then Trump will stop him which we need but we should say no
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He's killing people. He's evil. He's a globalist. He's with China, but again. What does that say about Trump?
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He's a baby, and he's a gullible moron. Yeah, that's what you're just describing
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You're saying to you said out loud. Uh-huh it is
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Incredibly easy to manipulate the president of the United States who has nuclear weapons
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Yes by appealing to his ego all you have to do is appeal to the president's ego
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And then he will crush your enemies for you a Trump that guy over there says he's stronger than you exactly
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Oh, like what can you what can't you do?
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How do you think that that's the president that you want a man with an iron will?
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Incorruptible although you can just say anything to him and make him feel in some insecure, and then he'll kill yeah
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Hey, Trump, Luxembourg said you suck. Yeah, no kidding. Oh
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Man more Luxembourg. Oh, dude
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I would say that there's almost no more compelling argument for like not voting for him that Alex could have suggested
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There's there's a no more compelling argument for being run by an AI than this bullshit like if you if you think that that's a
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Possibility it's in can you see that you can say that and think like well
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This is my makes my guy sound good this guy is a hero
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I mean cuz obviously he's not saying this as like a necessarily like a great thing
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He's saying it is like eyes one of his human failings. Hey look we all have blind spots
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That's a big one that might be the biggest one you could have right yeah almost makes it seem like anybody with ill will that's good
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at manipulating him could
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Basically be the president. Oh, it does sound like that doesn't it yeah, I'd rather not be in that situation
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Hmm so now G Edward Griffin comes to the plate
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And he has his own thing Trump or any other president for many decades is not
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His own authority he he takes direction
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Direction from those who got him into office. He takes directions from those who have
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Billions of dollars to throw around he takes directions from people who may have secrets that he doesn't want told
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In other words he takes direction for about you take all the deep state even though
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He's out there saying he's against the deep state he probably how far have we come now the deep states out in the oven
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Because I mean you were using terms
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What are you talking years ago good pivot there Alex because you don't want to talk about how G Edward Griffin
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Just said that Trump takes orders from billionaire donors and people who have blackmail on oh, man
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Do you know I oh boy that sounds like something that everybody's known forever and Alex knew back in 20
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God I hate these people so much. We're just going on a lap. What are we doing? What are we fucking doing?
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I don't know
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It's interesting though to see G Edward Griffin come in because he is someone who like Joel Skousen is like
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like
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legacy type yeah anti-communist guys
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Skousen less so because most of his credibility comes from being related to W
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Cleon's cows right that still make counts for a lot yeah, but like of his own accord G Edward Griffin
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Doesn't doesn't need Alex and so the conversation that the two of them have there's an entire power imbalance
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Uh-huh because also G Edward Griffin isn't as interested as someone like Steve pochenik in just abusing Alex. Yeah, yeah
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He's own
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Manipulative game just for fun. Yeah. Yeah, he's bored
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pochenik is bored right and
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G Edward Griffin has his own industry like he has his own books that he sells and like he doesn't need Alex as a
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promotional tool
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So the dynamic there is is pretty fascinating, and I think Alex comes out strongly on the losing end of it
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Oh, yeah, I would find that to be
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Humiliating if I went home after work that day
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And I was Alex and I was like I just fucking said on air that the globalists wanted Trump to win
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And maybe they are only using him to get a better
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Bargaining position with Chuck. What am I saying? Do you know what Alex sounds like a
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globalist
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Compared to G Edward it sounds like Alex is taking the side of the global. I don't know man. It's sad
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I salute you Alex on your
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display yeah
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So we'll see what happens on and the aftermath of his rally
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We'll see what happens on our next episode
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But I did I did watch a little bit of it, and it was disappointing like his really
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I can't I can't wait for him to come in studio on Monday and be like
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This was a huge success the best rally anyone's nobody's ever seen a rally better than this
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Yeah, I look forward to that quite a bit, but we will check in on that on our next episode
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I'm G Edward Griffin, but the Griffin is the mythical animal nice Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding
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