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Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan? Jordan.

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Quick question. What's your bright spot today, Dan?

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I got two little ones. Two little brights?

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Sort of some additional thank yous after our last episode for other things.

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One is a thank you to Anna out there, sent some masks. Some homemade masks.

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Yes, they look gorgeous. To wander around the streets with.

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And actually, a couple of those are for you and your lady friend.

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Oh, well, thank you very much.

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So please choose which two you would like to take for that. You have to take the one that's avocados.

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Okay, all right.

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Because as I told Anna, I'm allergic to avocados.

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You're allergic to avocados.

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Possibly allergic to avocados.

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Possibly.

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I cannot be seen walking around town with such a millennial bathing mask.

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That's how you own it, Dan. Just because you're allergic to it doesn't mean you can't wear it proudly.

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Yeah, so that's really awesome. It's great to walk around very confident and cocky in a nice, cool mask.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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A second is a thank you to definitely not health ranger John, who as a present sent over a selection of some of his favorite hot sauces from a company called Matouks.

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All right, all right.

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That's not one of them.

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That's a shitty store Kroger brand jalapeno sauce that is offensively salty.

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It did not look good.

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It's really bad.

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No.

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But I have not had a chance to try out these sauces yet. They just arrived, and so I will let folks know when I have a sense of it.

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But they look really exciting. One of them is a Trinidad scorpion sauce, which is one of my favorite of the peppers.

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That's hot. I'm not allowed to eat those.

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No, but it also has a nice fruitiness to it. John said his favorite was the calypso sauce, which worries me, but I'm excited to try it.

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So it's a bright spot for me. I'm really missing some real good hot sauces right now, and so having some of this to supplement some meals. Nice.

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Yeah, that's great. That sounds awesome. Mine, Dan, is very simple.

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When was the last time you had brisket? Because I'll tell you right now, it's delicious.

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Love brisket. Super good. We had a freak out. My partner and I, she and I were just so frustrated, and then we decided to order a shit ton of brisket.

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And just went into a meat coma, and it has been a good couple days just eating off that meat coma.

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It's good stuff.

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That's great.

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Yeah, I was very happy.

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Good for the two of you.

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Yeah.

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I'm happy for your rediscovery of the love of brisket.

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Love brisket. It's been too long.

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Hell yeah. So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. We're talking about April 23rd and 24th, 2020. I'm Dan. This is 2020.

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All right. God damn it.

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Thursday and Friday of last week, but before we get down to business on that, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show, and also do a little recap of the year of the seltzer.

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Okay.

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So first, I'd like to say thank you to the Minnesota Skeptics. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Are you a policy wonk?

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I am a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Joe.

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Thanks, Joe.

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Next, Ross.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Ross.

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Thanks, Ross.

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Next, this could go either way.

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This could go either way?

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Basil or basil.

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I'm not entirely sure, but either way, thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you.

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I like basil.

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I do too.

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I'm gonna go with basil.

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Next, Vicky.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank You, Vicky.

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Thank you, Vicky.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Daniel.

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Thank you, Daniel.

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Next, Claire Genevieve.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you.

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Claire Genevieve.

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Thank you so much.

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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on elevated

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level.

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We appreciate that very much.

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So first, Will.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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And Richard.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right.

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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's get down to business, we ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Will.

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And thank you so much, Richard.

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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.

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If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support

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these gents too.

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You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button says support the show,

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or you can go and find a local charity in your area and support some folks who are in

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need and carry on that spirit.

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Yes, we would appreciate it if you did either.

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So Jordan, we are making good progress in the year of the seltzer.

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Yes.

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I'd like to first of all say thank you to everybody who has responded so positively

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to the idea of me drinking an absurd number of seltzers.

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It's kind of amazing how many people really love this idea.

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Yeah.

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A lot of people very interested in it.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I'd also like to take a moment to honor the people who are not so into this.

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And I understand- Why?

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Why would anybody not be into the year of the seltzer?

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Some people don't like seltzer, some people think this is trivial nonsense.

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There's that.

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And both are fair positions for people to have.

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And as such, I'm not going to talk about every single seltzer that I drink on the podcast.

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That would get to be annoying.

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So what I've decided to do is I've made a website where I'm tracking my seltzer journey,

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which is knowledgefight.com slash seltzer.

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And there is a graph charting the rankings of these.

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Everybody who wants to know all of the specific seltzers that are being drank, please go check

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that website.

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It'll be updated periodically, probably after every episode as I'm editing, maybe I'll update

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the website.

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But we are on track for the 500.

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Really?

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Already?

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I mean, it's only the first week.

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Okay.

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Look, every long journey begins with a single step.

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We are at 12.

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We're at 12 seltzers already?

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Right now, 12 seltzers tried, which is a jump from the three at the point of our last recording.

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And what I'm going to do is whenever we do a check-in on the year of the seltzer, what

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I'm going to do is I'm going to bring to you some of the standouts.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Because one of the things I'm realizing as I drink more and more of these seltzers is

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fucking most of them are eh.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The last time I checked the page, there was a significant course correction.

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It looked like everything was trending downward until you got to like a median level.

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Like the first seltzer, if you tasted it now, would probably be closer to the middle than

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it was at the beginning.

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Oh yes.

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That cherry coffee one would be a little lower.

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Yeah.

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Probably.

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But lemon cello would be right where it is.

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Yes.

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That is really good.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So the standout from this batch was definitely the passion fruit wonder by bubbler.

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It's a bubbler without an E. Holy shit.

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I think I might be discovering a love of passion fruit.

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You are-

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I don't know if it's something that I-

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A love of passion fruit?

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A passion.

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For love fruit.

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Thank you.

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Don't do it.

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I don't know if it's a flavor that I've had much exposure to over the years.

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I might've thought it was a fake fruit.

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I kind of still think it's a fake fruit.

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But it was really good.

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Flavor is good.

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The seltzer is fantastic.

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I think it's also one of the ones that was caffeinated.

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If you still want a little kick, go with the-

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You're advertising now too?

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No.

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That's another thing I should point out is we have not nor will we ever take any kind

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of sponsorship from a seltzer company.

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So if you're out there and you're a seltzer company and you're thinking, hey, maybe I

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should get in on this game, it seems like it's pretty exciting, people really enjoy

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the year of the seltzer.

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Let's give these guys a few bucks to do some buzz marketing.

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No way.

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Uh-uh.

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No way.

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You can't, however, send seltzers.

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No.

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We're not going to reference your company name, but if you want to send a seltzer, nobody's

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going to say no to a seltzer.

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Look, no matter how much money Spindrift gives me, I'm not going to say it's good.

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And no matter how much money Bubbler doesn't give me, I'm going to say that that passion

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fruit wonder, 78 out of 100, strong stuff for this-

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That's high praise.

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Yeah, it's pretty good.

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That is high praise.

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Yep.

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So that's the report from the year of the seltzer.

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We will continue on our journey.

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But now let's get down to business on today's episode, Jordan.

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Let's start with an out of context drop from today's show.

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The new world order sucks.

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Oh no, don't say something like that.

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Don't say something- Oh no, oh no.

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Oh no.

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Oh no.

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Is that Scott Hall?

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Is that Kevin Nash?

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Oh no.

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What show are we doing anymore?

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Hey yo.

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What even is this?

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I don't know.

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Alex said the new world order sucks.

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What happens after that?

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He's going to get power bombed by Kevin Nash.

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He's going to get the jack knife and then he's going to get NWO spray painted on his

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back.

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That's pretty much what's going to happen.

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All right.

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So anyway, let's start here on the 23rd.

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Alex starts the 23rd on a sort of weird place.

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He insists that he has the key to solving all of humanity's problems.

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Sure.

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Naturally.

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This is so big and it ties into everything and it's like a Rosetta Stone, a skeleton

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key, a window into the universe.

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And I was sitting there up front when I went live just a few minutes ago with all these

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huge things I was going to cover.

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And then I thought to myself, why don't you talk about this?

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Why don't you talk about this?

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What is this?

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Well, this is a key that opens the door that frees America and the world.

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And there are many doors this key opens as well.

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Are we killing time?

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What is happening?

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And it's not that I'm scared to cover this topic.

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What topic?

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It's just that if I just come out and put it out there mixed in with all the other big

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things we're talking about, it gets lost in the shuffle, doesn't it?

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I guess.

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I don't, I don't really know exactly what he's talking about all of that time.

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You could have used to talk about the thing, right?

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And then it wouldn't have been lost in the shuffle, right?

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I've listened to this whole episode.

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I'm not positive.

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I know exactly what the thing is.

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What is this?

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I don't know this.

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What is this key?

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What is it?

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It's dramatics.

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It's theatrics.

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That's what it is.

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So Alex talks about how we're in a lockdown, right?

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And he wants to break out his, uh, his, uh, uh, his dictionary in order to talk about

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the definition of the word lockdown.

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What is a lockdown?

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The definition right here.

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Is that it?

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It's what happens when you're in a prison and it's when you've had your common's time

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and you've been able to go outside in a minimum or medium security prison and the lockdown

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is when you're put back inside your jail cells for night lockdown, L O C K D O W N.

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Wow.

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And it goes down, down, down the confining of prisoners to their cells, typically after

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an escape or a regain control of a riot, a state of isolation or restricted access initiated

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as a security measure.

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The university is on lockdown and nobody has been able to leave cold martial law.

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I like to have fun with definitions.

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So let's consult a couple of dictionaries and see what other meanings we can find for

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the word lockdown.

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The very specific one Alex is using about prison riots.

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According to dictionary.com, another meaning for lockdown is a freeze or a pause.

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The word can be used to describe a temporary state of affairs that requires a pausing of

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normal activity.

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Now what's even more fun is if we consult Merriam-Webster and find the definition from

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martial law, quote, the law administered by military forces that's invoked by a government

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in an emergency when the civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain public order

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and safety.

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According to encyclopedia Britannica, one of the most defining characteristics of martial

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law is the military takes over the administration of justice.

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And none of that stuff is happening at all right now.

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And if it were happening, the only person who could invoke it would be Trump.

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This highlights an interesting problem with Alex's rhetoric.

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I don't think he knows what martial law is, yet it's his primary fear and his branding.

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He seems to think that martial law is just any kind of law he doesn't like or rules or

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guidelines that he finds inconvenient.

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And that's not what martial law is.

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I think he just knows that the name of it is scary to people.

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And he's just going to yell about it all the time, not having any idea.

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And also, I went down a long rabbit hole looking at the history of martial law.

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And like two of the most important figures in terms of the early history of the definition

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of martial law were Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.

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And Andrew Jackson enacted martial law on New Orleans and refused to lift it after the

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imminent threat of an English invasion ended.

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So like the people who Alex lionizes and admires are people who have a rocky history in terms

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of the definition of martial law becoming something that could apply to civilians.

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Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

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He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Of course his cosmology includes blind hero worship of the people doing the exact same

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thing that he's been fighting against his entire life.

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That makes perfect sense now.

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It's pretty troubling all in all.

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So now here's something that's kind of interesting.

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This might be it.

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I don't know.

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What is it?

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I don't know.

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What is this?

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I don't know if this is it or this or what, but it's a big story that Alex has on this

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episode.

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And so it might be it.

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But here's the headline.

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So this is an amazing level of abusive rhetoric.

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Alex has literally spent years yelling about how it doesn't matter if Russian actors spread

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misinformation on social media in order to help Trump in the 2016 election, how that's

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completely meaningless.

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But now he seems to think it's the biggest deal in the world, that some Chinese actors

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have done something on social media.

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Seems like a problem from a consistency standpoint, but whatever.

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So Alex is trying to get the idea out, and this is the way he's covering the story, is

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that the entirety of the virus panic in the United States is the result of the machinations

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of Chinese agents, and that this New York Times story that he's referring to proves

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it all.

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This New York Times story is from April 22nd and has a headline, quote, Chinese agents

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helped spread messages that sowed virus panic in the United States, officials say.

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Like I said, he's trying to use this headline to suggest that the entirety of the fear surrounding

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the virus is a Chinese misinformation campaign, but that is not what this article is about.

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This article is about messages and texts that spread around about Trump being set to lock

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down the entire United States back in mid-March.

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From the article, this passage begins with a section of the message in question.

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Quote, they will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to prevent looters

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and rioters, warned one of the messages, which cited a source in the Department of Homeland

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Security.

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Quote, he said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the

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call today with his dispatch orders.

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This is an article about misinformation campaigns that take advantage of the virus situation,

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but Alex wants the presentation to be that the virus situation itself only feels so severe

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because of this misinformation campaign, which is just not supported by his source.

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If China is in fact doing this, like what the New York Times article is describing,

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then fuck them.

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That's really shitty, but it's still not what Alex is talking about.

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Also, this article relies on an assessment from the intelligence community, who Alex

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is supposed to not trust and be against.

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And while we're on the subject, isn't the New York Times supposed to be run by the globalists

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who are in bed with China?

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Why would they be running a story about Chinese agents spreading misinformation?

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Can they not do that?

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Well, Dan, seems to not make sense.

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You are.

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So now the globalists, I don't know if you've heard this, the globalists because of the

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quarantine have split into six separate factions now, one of whom controls the New York Times

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that is fighting against the other five, three of whom are pro China, two of whom are anti-Russia,

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but pro Trump.

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And the three who are pro China are all over the map, Dan.

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So this is chaos.

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Hey, I got to go.

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It's been fun catching up.

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No, I never does.

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There are raptors now.

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I don't even fucking know.

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I mean, the story has changed.

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Take care of yourself.

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OK, I got to go.

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That's obvious.

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But yeah.

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All right.

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This narrative is getting too complicated.

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Six.

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Don't care.

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Factions.

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OK.

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So Alex is thrilled on some level because people are yelling at him about Bill Gates.

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Naturally.

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You know, I shouldn't be negative because last night I was driving home and I pulled

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up to a red light and a black woman in her Ford F-150 rolled down the window and said,

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we love you, Alex.

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And Bill Gates is going to burn in hell.

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And this morning I was walking through a parking lot.

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And a guy drove by in a plumbing repair truck wasn't a van, it was a truck, and he rolls

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down the window and he goes, F Bill Gates, we're winning, Alex, keep it up.

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A good old boy, redneck.

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That's in a 24 hour period, folks, and I'm not out on the streets very much.

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I put my head out, people ride by and go, Bill Gates is the enemy.

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I mean, look, the way I look at that is like I do a show about how much Alex Jones sucks

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and he's the worst.

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And if I walked around in my daily life and people yelled at me, hey, fuck Alex Jones,

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I would find that to be an uncomfortable situation.

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I would not look at that as like a victory on my part.

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I would look at it as, this sucks.

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See now, what concerns me is that based on what Alex is telling me, if I were walking

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along with Alex and he hears all of this stuff, I would not see any of those people.

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He would turn to me like, did you hear what that lady in the F-150 just said?

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She just said, fuck Bill Gates.

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And I'd be like, Alex, there's no one here.

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The F-150 hasn't been sold for 40 years.

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It's the ghost.

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This road doesn't exist.

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We're in the woods, Alex.

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Yeah.

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We've been camping for six months.

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It is a concern that these people are probably imaginary, but even if they were real, I would

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say that that's not like, I don't feel like that is-

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Constivating a good audience.

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Yeah.

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Or like a healthy sort of way that people interact with the content you put out.

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I wouldn't like that, but Alex apparently does because it's not really about making

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any change or anything.

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It's about riling people up with bullshit narratives.

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We love you, Alex.

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I'm going to strangle somebody.

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Whoa, whoa.

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Alex is getting the response that he wants, which is blind, visceral anger.

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Yeah.

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And that's just stupid.

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That's just not, it's not good.

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It's not helpful.

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No.

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So earlier, I think I was on our last episode, Alex was developing his narrative about worldwide

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starvations and stuff.

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Sure.

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And so that continues a little bit.

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He has a complaint that like, okay, man, we're all talking about people dying of coronavirus

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because that's sexy.

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People dying in the developing world, not sexy.

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What a fucking piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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He's the worst.

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Coronavirus pandemic will cause famine of biblical proportions, but that's not sexy.

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Nobody's writing about that.

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How are you reading it?

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Supposedly patriots aren't.

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They don't give a damn about Africans starving to death by the millions or people in the

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Middle East or Asia or Latin America.

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No, no, no, no.

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Why?

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Let's put up on the board the global amount of infections.

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It fetishized that when it's based on, what did the White House task force say, feds classifying

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all coronavirus patients' deaths as COVID-19 regardless of cause.

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Oh, and maybe we can show folks a shot of that.

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I mean, there that is right there.

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See?

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Government's classifying all deaths by patients with coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths.

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That's Fox News.

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Well, I believe it then.

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But see, that's not sexy.

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Wearing a mask, getting into the fear.

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All this is sexy.

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It's fun.

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It's cool.

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So fun.

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You pat it on the head and people say, you're a hero.

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Good job.

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Happens all the time.

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All right, here's what I'm going to do.

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I have intended to want to take calls today.

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We also have a guest joining us.

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And I have not yet done what I came here to do today, because this is really, really important

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information.

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I got taken off balance by a lot of stuff today, and I'm not going to blame anybody

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here in this office for it, but this is just not normal times.

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This is not the build up to the new world order.

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We have days to turn this around before it's a revocable worldwide depression in hell on

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earth.

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I wonder what it was that threw him off his game that morning.

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Maybe that his ex-wife filed a motion to stay the hearing that he was expecting to have

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that day.

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I don't know.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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I don't know at this point.

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Like, maybe.

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If that is it, then how is he going to blame people that work for him?

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Not true.

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I looked at the docket, and apparently the hearing to possibly disqualify his lawyer

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is set for this Friday, the 30th.

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But I don't know if that is the fundamental thing he's wrestling with, but obviously it

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seems like, what else threw you off your game this morning?

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It's definitely not whatever this is.

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Right.

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So now, a couple points I want to make here about the two things that Alex is comparing

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in terms of relative sexiness.

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So there are people who are talking about the issues of the potential food crises in

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the developing world.

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Those people are officials in the UN, who Alex hates, and thus we can't possibly accept

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that they're actually the ones raising the alarm about this issue that Alex is trying

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to pretend no one is talking about.

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Also, reopening our economy fully will not solve that problem.

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If we reopen everything prematurely, we run a real risk of seeing infections and death

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skyrocket, at which point our economy will be in a far more severe situation than it

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is in now.

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The choice between safety and protecting the economy is a false choice, and the thing that

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will help people in the developing world the most is for us to continue and accelerate

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our commitment to providing foreign aid for people in other countries who are in need,

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even as times get tough here.

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That's a policy choice that Trump could make, and he should.

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Second, as to the issue of all deaths being labeled coronavirus deaths, Alex is just lying

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about that.

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It all traces back to an April 7th press conference in which Dr. Birx said that, quote, if someone

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dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death.

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This is in line with the CDC guidance, which says the patients who die with COVID-19 positive

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tests should have that listed on their death certificates.

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And if a test isn't available, it should be listed, quote, if the circumstances are compelling

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within a reasonable degree of certainty.

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Fact Check spoke to Mark Lipschitz, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard, who did concede

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that there would be a small number of cases of people listed as COVID-19 deaths when that

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is not what led to their deaths, but, quote, a greater issue is errors in the other direction,

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deaths caused by COVID that are not counted as such.

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He went on to say, quote, overall, it seems likely that while a few individuals who would

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have died anyway are getting called COVID deaths, there are many more deaths caused

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by COVID that are not attributed to COVID.

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They also spoke to Sally Aiken, Spokane County medical examiner and president of the National

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Association of Medical Examiners, who said, quote, the true facts are the COVID-19 deaths

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likely will be underreported on death certificates, not overreported.

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This will especially be true as deaths that occur in homes and not in hospitals mount.

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Not all jurisdictions are able to test home deaths with typical symptoms for COVID-19.

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Alex can play games by spinning Burks' comments all he wants, but it doesn't change the reality

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that the medical professionals in this country are not just taking every death and calling

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it a COVID death because that's sexy.

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It's equally untrue that no one is talking about the food-related humanitarian crisis

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that's looming because it's not sexy enough.

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Alex is just making these things up because that's what works for his narratives.

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Yeah, it doesn't seem like either option to talk about is very sexy.

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I find them to be both incredibly depressing and almost entirely unavoidable.

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Almost entirely avoidable.

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It is him complaining about stuff that should have been taken care of a long time ago and

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acting like it's not a huge part of his influence that helps keep them from...

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Or his world's influence, not his individual influence necessarily.

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It's treating things like this as an inevitability of life as opposed to, nope, this is a choice

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that's being made.

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There is a way that the resources could be taken to the places they need to be.

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That's oversimplifying things, obviously, there are a million different variables, but

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there are more things that, as a country, we could do, even in hard times.

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Just more simply, if you want to start talking about food, food banks are running absolutely

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direly low and they're letting food spoil because they can't sell it to groceries.

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It is absolutely disgusting.

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It is fucking tragic that we are letting so much food just die when so many people need

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it.

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I think there's resource allocation issues that, if we could really prioritize and solve

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those, it would make a massive difference.

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Huge.

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It is a choice not to, that we are making.

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Also in that clip, even if Alex didn't say something threw him off his game this morning,

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I think you can tell that he's not in game shape on this episode.

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It's drastic how bad he is at his job, just stammering and long pauses.

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He doesn't seem to know where he's going with anything.

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It's really, it's jarring.

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This is a real shocking kind of example of that.

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And do not share this video.

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Just submit to it.

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Take the force inoculations.

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I'm being sarcastic.

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Let me be a good boy.

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We'll go to break in like four minutes and then we'll come back and I'll try to lay this

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out.

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But God almighty, he just seems flat.

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There's like no energy.

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It doesn't seem like he's really into this.

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Like it really hurts to listen to like, not because I care, but because it's like generally

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when he's like frenetic and all over the place, it's like, Oh wow, look at this barrage of

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bullshit.

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But when it's just low register, Alex, it's like, this is like walking through mud, deep,

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deep mud.

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He is, he is not killing time.

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He is guilty of first degree murder.

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This is bad.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets to talking about how like, uh, there's a trap, the globalist trap.

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There's a globe.

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The globalists have set a trap and we're in it.

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Traps close.

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Oh, okay.

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It's on our leg.

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All right.

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Well then what's the point of having the key to all those goddamn doors.

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If the traps already closed, if there's no doors to open, why don't you listen to Alex

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layout is all right.

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The bear trap closed in the last two months.

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It's on our leg.

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Don't either get our leg out or cut our leg off.

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We're going to die.

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And so this is not a good position to be in.

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But if I can't get my leg out of this thing very, very quickly, I'm going to pull a knife

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out and cut my leg off.

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I'm going to turn to get it up and I'm going to drag myself off and I'm not looking forward

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to hacking through my own ankle, but I can see over the hill, a couple dozen wolves,

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300 yards away coming at me.

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That's not enough time to get your ankle off and scrabble in the woods and at least climb

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into a hole where I can find a sharp stick and jab at the wolves.

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I have no hope.

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You've got a shot.

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Hey, leg.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Alex's leg is info wars.

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He's talking about closing info wars and quitting in order for him to be able to retain a certain

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amount of wealth and carrying on living a reasonably comfortable life.

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That's what he's talking about because none of this makes sense in any other context.

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Sure.

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There's a worldwide pandemic going on, but that is not reason for Alex to quit.

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When shit gets weird or bad, that's when propagandists and conspiracy liars make their bread.

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All of the things that have put Alex on the map are examples of him exploiting tragedy

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and profiting off other people's pain.

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From his co-opting of the Waco standoff at the beginning of his career, to him rising

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to prominence as a 9-11 truther.

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Think about the highlights of his career.

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Sandy Hook denialism, lying about the Boston bombing, consistent antagonism towards immigrants,

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and the LGBTQ community.

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All he does is profit off pain.

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This situation is a perfect opportunity for him.

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It's almost like a meatball right in the center of the plate.

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I just don't believe that absent other circumstances, Alex would see what's happening in the world

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as anything other than a chance for him to make a shitload of money.

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That's exactly how he behaved in the early days of the outbreak.

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Maybe Alex is taking this so seriously because the globalists are threatening him, right?

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That's what he wants us to think.

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I don't think so.

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He wants us to think that the globalists are threatening him, but that makes literally

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no sense, given that his entire career has been full of claims that the globalists are

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actively threatening him all the time.

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He's said that they've made attempts on his life before, and that very specific threats

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have been made.

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They tried to pretend that Jerome Corsi's coverage of the Seth Rich conspiracy shit

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was so dangerous to the globalists that he had to make a dead man switch.

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One of the defining features of Alex's broadcast style is a constant insistence that the globalists

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are threatening his life.

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He needs people to think that's happening because it allows him to pretend that the

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topics he's covering are somehow dangerous, and by extension, accurate.

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However, he's been making these threats up the entire time, as he is now.

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Threats from the globalists should always be understood as code for consequences of

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Alex's actions.

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Sandy Hook's family's victims' families suing Alex is presented as a globalist attack, but

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it's really the consequence of his actions lying about them and helping subject them

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to vicious harassment.

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Whatever he's talking about now is no different.

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Whether it's the impending fine from the FDA or some other case that he knows is going

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to destroy him, Alex is preparing his audience to believe that no matter what consequences

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come his way, it's really just evil globalists punishing him for being such an effective

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thorn in his side.

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That's why his leg is in the trap and he's got to cut it off.

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Yeah, it's like that old, if you're so accustomed to privilege, any change feels like an attack

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on you.

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He's so accustomed to the privilege of never having to face consequences for his actions

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that now the idea of roosters coming home is terrifying.

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It's an attack.

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I'm dying.

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I'm dying.

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My leg's in a trap.

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Yeah.

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If he had faced consequences for his actions younger, maybe he would be more emotionally

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prepared to deal with this type of situation.

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Maybe he would have fucking quit already.

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Maybe.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets into this dumb head space where he's like, really just like, I got to cut

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my leg off, I can't get out of this trap.

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Uh, why the fuck am I even trying to help people?

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Why am I trying to stop the globalists?

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Where's the key at?

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I can't believe that we've let things even get to this point.

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And then I asked myself, why am I trying to save this?

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If I really hate the leftist and what they do, I should be supporting them because they're

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going to be the ones that are the first to go under this.

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But then I sit back and I realize so many children will be hurt in the process.

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It's the right thing to do to just tell the truth and try to save everybody, even if they

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don't deserve it.

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This audience of amazing activists, they do deserve the truth.

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And so I will do it great.

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Won't someone think of the children, someone, I mean, I haven't even hit the big news yet.

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Imagine the start of the show today.

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What is this?

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Finally, the Pentagon comes out and realizes that big tech was a mouthpiece for communist

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China and created the COVID-19 hysteria from the beginning to shut down the US economy.

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That's all confirmed.

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See, it's confirmed because of that New York Times story that Alex is lying about based

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on the headline.

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Great.

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Yup.

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So I guess that must be the big news because he's saying, I haven't gotten to the big news

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and then immediately references that story that he has already talked about a little

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bit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know.

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Anyway, Alex is a dumb douche.

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In this next clip, he talks about like, hey, look, we're responding to this situation in

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one way, but what if we responded to other things in history the same way?

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Great.

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And he's very dumb.

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This is brilliant.

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No, he's dumb.

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No, this is super smart.

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Jordan, I got to stop you.

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It's dumb.

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No, no, no.

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You're missing, you know.

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No, no, no.

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So what you're doing is taking something in this historical context and comparing it to

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the past historical context.

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That's a brilliant idea.

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I don't think it's not.

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I don't think it's always dirty pool.

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You know, like I think you could probably do it responsibly, but the way Alex is doing

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this is just so stupid.

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Imagine if Americans acted like this before we lost millions of people in our wars, millions

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in the civil war.

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So black people had rights.

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Wow.

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Imagine people back then if they'd have been told, oh, there's a plague, you can't go outside.

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You shouldn't think it's because black people have rights, buddy.

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It's incredibly weak.

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So a couple of points here.

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The first is that the civil war was fought literally before the development of germ theory.

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We didn't know how diseases spread at that point.

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And according to a 1993 report in the journal clinical infectious disease, quote, two thirds

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of the approximately 660,000 deaths of soldiers were caused by uncontrolled infectious disease

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and epidemics played a major role in halting several major campaigns.

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This article estimates that these diseases prolong the war by as much as two years.

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Jesus.

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Soldiers in the civil war had to deal with outbreaks of measles, malaria, smallpox, and

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a bunch of other conditions that doctors at the time had no idea what to do with or how

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to prevent.

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If medical science had any idea about what infectious diseases were in the 1860s, it's

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entirely possible that hostilities might've been postponed amid outbreaks.

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Even as it was, many battles were delayed because of disease.

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So I have no idea what Alex thinks he's talking about.

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Also, I'm going to leave aside the whole notion that the civil war was fought to give

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black people rights considering that the civil rights act wasn't passed until 1964 and the

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voting rights act was passed the next year.

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The question of what it means to get rights is a messy, complicated question that I'd

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prefer not to unpack right now since it's secondary to a more important point.

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And you brought this up, Alex should not think the civil war was fought to give black people

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rights.

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He does not believe that the civil war was about slavery, countless occasions.

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His relatives fought on the side of the Confederacy and he's been very insistent that it would

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be mostly about protectionism and states' rights, but now here he is using the civil

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war as a notable example of a war fought to give black people rights that would've been

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disrupted by an outbreak like the one we're seeing now.

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The point I want to make here is that Alex doesn't ever say shit.

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His words mean nothing.

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When it's expedient for him and he wants to appeal to his racist base, the civil war

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had nothing to do with slavery, you dumb SJWs.

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When it's important to pretend that his stupid anti-distancing protests are the equivalent

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of abolitionists in the 1850s, the civil war was fought to give black people rights.

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He can argue both things because he doesn't mean anything he says.

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Everything purely exists as a means to an end.

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Also millions didn't die in the civil war.

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The high-end estimate is approximately 750,000.

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I don't think he gets to say we either.

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When he said that's why we fought the civil war to get black people rights, it's like

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uh-uh, uh-uh, no that's why we fought the civil war.

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You did not fight it, you fought it to keep people from getting rights.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I told you, shit was stupid.

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So there's another thing that Alex teases a whole bunch on this episode that he never

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really pays off at all, and that is that he believes that all Trump media except for himself,

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all the right-wing media, has been paid off by the Chinese.

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Sure, that sounds great.

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Let me hit this big piece of news before our next special guest joins us.

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Through public relations firms and through major billionaires, almost every major news

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site that was pro-Trump has taken money.

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I would imagine you'd want to know those names, wouldn't you?

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Sure.

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That's why we have those people to look up those names called journalists.

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I want you to think about that and understand that.

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I'm thinking Chinese agents helped spread messages that showed virus panic in U.S. officials

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say.

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Same article.

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I'm not against U.S. intelligence agencies.

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Yes you are.

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If you want to follow the American way, and if they promote freedom, and if we the people

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control the government, and that if our will in the legislators and the president we elect

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is executed dutifully, I understand, but if you've got the spirit, you're on the right

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direction, then, you know, a few broken eggs, I'm not going to piss myself.

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But I've been an enemy of U.S. intelligence agencies and law enforcement for decades because

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they've been run by the globalist.

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The minute they began to come under U.S. control, well, I'm their biggest fan.

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That's not a paradox.

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That's not a contradiction.

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That's called common sense.

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Let me translate Alex's explanation of why he's not against the intelligence community

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this time.

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All he's saying is that he accepts the things the intel community says when it matches up

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with what he wants to believe and accuses them of being dirty globalists anytime they

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say there's something that contradicts a position he wants to advance.

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No, it's their spirit, Dan.

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He can feel their spirit.

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No, it's the spirit that's changed, Dan.

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It's as simple as just choosing.

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He can dress it up as noble by saying that he's on board when they're good, but his only

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definition of good is in line with my narratives.

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I don't think it's bad to have a healthy distrust of the U.S. intelligence apparatus, but that

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is not what Alex does.

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He just uses them as a storytelling prop in a way that makes what they say or do irrelevant.

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If it works for Alex, they're heroes.

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If it doesn't, they're globalists.

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It's just a filter he can take released information through to make it presentable to his audience,

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make him sound like he actually has positions.

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He doesn't.

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He's just a piece of shit.

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Yeah, I mean, even that itself is so autocratic of just like when they do what I say they

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should do, then they're good people, and when they don't, they're bad people.

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I should have complete control over everyone's actions.

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Yeah, the only definition of good or bad hero or villain is does this work for me?

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Recents, yeah.

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But I'm really more interested in these people who have taken these payoffs from the Chinese

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in the right wing media that Alex is talking about.

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I don't know.

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He doesn't say who they are, but I think he's about to.

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They're stealing your position in the universe and your providence and your genetic future,

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and they're engaging in a type of war that is covert, that is very, very hard to beat,

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but still, I've not released the secrets, but it's like a brick wall.

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I'm about to relax.

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I'm not allowed to.

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There's no government telling me not to.

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I'm about to release massive stuff, and I was about to do it, and God's like, nope,

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not yet.

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Seriously, that's one of my greatest frustrations.

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I'm not allowed to tell you yet.

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Hopefully, I'm praying to God to let me tell you, but I'm not allowed to right now.

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Can you imagine if Brian Stelter got on his show and was like, in the top story today,

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what's this?

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God won't let me report this.

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God won't let me report this.

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I'm sorry.

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I was about to tell you guys, but- The biggest news in the world, it'll save

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humanity or something.

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God.

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Well, I'm sorry.

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I'm praying for permission to be able to tell this story.

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Can't do it.

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There's a key to a door, and I'm going to open this door for you.

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Oh, no, God.

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We are so inundated in the world of Alex Jones that we hear that, and it's like, you asshole.

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Exactly.

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Realistically, that is a lunatic kind of behavior.

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That's so deeply... I know that he's insincere and all this is bullshit, dramatic theatrics,

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but taken sincerely, that's a level of religious zealotry that is so scary in a vacuum.

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If you just heard that, not knowing who Alex was, you'd be like, oh my God, what is this

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fucking show?

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When I was in seventh grade, I remember my English teacher about to explain the thematic

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resonance of a separate piece, and I was just like, God told me I can't do it, so we're

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going to watch a video today.

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Oh, God.

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Yeah.

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The biggest thing that Alex has going on this episode, pretty much the entire time, is misrepresentations

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of this New York Times article.

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He has to deal with a little bit of an issue, and that is like, wait, aren't the New York

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Times globalists?

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Yeah.

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Here's the New York Times telling you exactly what he told you three months ago.

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Chinese agents helped spread messages that showed virus panic in the US.

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People go, Alex, you believe the New York Times?

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No, I don't believe the New York Times.

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They've been forced to report this because Trump is fighting back and they have been

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caught.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Alex is just making that up.

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No.

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That's... If somebody is listening to that and believes Alex whenever he says that bullshit,

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they're gone.

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Yeah.

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If you buy that nonsense... No, I never believe the New York Times, but this time they were

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forced because Trump is fighting back.

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Right.

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What are you fucking talking about?

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He needs a way to justify the misrepresentation of the headline in a way that works while

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still being, yes, they're bad, but Trump forced them to...

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Sure.

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And even if you believe that, like... That's fucked up.

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Yeah.

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Wait, so now you're saying that the president should be allowed to tell newspapers what

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to do?

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Imagine if Barack Obama was president and he told you what to publish.

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How would you feel about that, Dan?

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I think Alex would not be into it.

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I don't think he would like that.

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So there's this thread, like I said, going through of him teasing that right-wing media

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has been co-opted, but he's not being specific, and then also he's dropping these weird... He

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talks about how someone tried to buy him out last year.

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Sure.

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I don't know if I believe this, but this is just fucking weird.

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And then he starts singing The Devil Went Down to Georgia.

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Sure, of course.

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I know for a fact that through ad agencies, the communist Chinese have bought off most

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of the major news websites.

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We got approached by one of the richest men in the world last year.

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Is this that Nigerian scam again?

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And we didn't.

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It was a contract.

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It was a private meeting.

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I signed a non-disclosure.

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Wasn't criminal.

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I can sell my soul anytime I want.

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It wasn't like The Devil Went Down to Georgia in a Charlie Daniels song where he jumps up

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on a hickory stump and says, boy, let me tell you what.

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You might be a fiddle player, but I'm a fiddle player too, and I bet a fiddle of gold against

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your souls.

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I think I'm better than you.

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It's not like that.

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No.

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I've had those experiences, and you know what?

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You have?

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It kind of sounds like that though.

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But here's the difference.

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I can't get up here and not sell out to the devil and then not get you to support us.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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If you don't want me to sell out to the devil, you better buy my product.

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I took the meeting.

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I could sell out anytime.

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Look, look.

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Oh, sure.

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I've been railing against how you shouldn't sell out to the devil and that that is a literal

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crime against God, but there's nothing criminal about selling out to the devil.

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I can do whatever I want.

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I can do whatever I want.

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You better buy some food.

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Honestly, the thing that I think about that the most is that Charlie Daniels would definitely

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approve of that, all of Alex's use of his song.

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He might be the only person who would be like, get him, Alex.

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Everybody else would be like, fuck you.

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Stop playing our music.

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Charlie Daniels would be all about it, all about it.

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So there's a real conflict that I have about Alex using the concept and the idea and the

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image of people dealing with hunger in the developing world as a prop in his narratives.

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I find it to be really offensive because Alex doesn't care.

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And thankfully in this next clip, he explains that he really doesn't care about those people.

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You know, I'm not some bleeding heart that talks about tens of millions of extra people

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starving to death right now in the U.N. in the mix, in the lockdown.

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So you trust the U.N. that's definitely rooted in reality.

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And I know the globalists want to get rid of the population.

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And I know that when they get me to accept killing old people and they get me to accept

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starving the third world to death, that that's really myself and my family that are targeted.

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So I care about those people that are being killed, but I care about them out of self

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interest and Brian Rose is our guest at London Real TV.

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Yeah.

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So Alex only really cares because of his own.

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Yeah.

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Well, the concept of altruism, as we know, is made up from selfishness.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Space aliens.

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What was that was the plan.

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Look, man, I got to say that's disappointing.

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That's exactly what I thought he thought, though.

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Yeah.

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But even then, he doesn't actually care about the people starving.

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So he doesn't even believe his own lies about his self-interest.

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No, nope.

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He's just a pure fucking psychopath.

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Yeah.

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At the end there, you heard Alex has Brian Rose on.

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That's the guy from London Real who did an interview with David Icke and it got kicked

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off YouTube.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Because David Icke was saying there was no virus.

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Right.

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And all that.

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And like, oh, no, fuck this noise.

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Look, I don't care.

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It's a really long interview.

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It's about half of the show and I don't care.

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They're just complaining.

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Alex is not interested?

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No, he's fairly interested, but they're just complaining about how he got kicked off and

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in trouble.

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Yeah.

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You can't have consequences.

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It's all good and well for them to complain, but this is really just an hour long promo

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for how Brian is going to do another interview with David Icke and how he's trying to start

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his own YouTube.

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Of course.

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I am very, very not interested in this and I'm not going to play along with Alex's blatant

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promotional content.

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Like it's, I don't know whether it's like brokered content or if it's just like, hey,

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let's help this guy fundraise for his fringe weirdo YouTube project.

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I don't think that YouTube is going to like three hundred thousand dollars in donations.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Brian Rose apparently is somebody who has a bit more of an audience than I had any idea.

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Okay.

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He, I don't, I don't really know.

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I haven't really watched a ton of his videos, but it is really hilarious because Alex keeps

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being like, oh, I listen to you all the time.

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You're one of the best.

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Like I've loved you for like three years.

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I have never heard his name come up and tell the David Icke situation.

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So whatever.

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Yeah.

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I think, I think most likely the explanation of it is Alex recognizes that this is a guy

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who has a pretty sizable audience and he's trying to glom on to it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So whatever siphon anything and anyone.

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Yeah.

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I'm not interested.

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It's a very boring interview.

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So we have one last clip from the 23rd and it's Alex again, discussing this idea that

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the right wing media is taking Chinese money, but he won't get specific.

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And the people attacking me have no idea that I know about the advertising firms that paid

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them money.

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And that's another thing I intended to come on here today because it was the right thing

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to do and talk about some of the groups I know we're getting communist Chinese money.

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And I don't know why Brian, I can't even say their names.

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Maybe I will tomorrow, but that's an example of this whole metaphysical thing.

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Sometimes I consciously decide to say something, but then there's this other force comes in.

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It's always right.

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That's why I've learned to follow it because I can override that force.

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I don't even know what it is.

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I mean, it's God, but it's like, and people say, what does this mean?

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Call a doctor.

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What is it where I'm ready to say something?

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I can say it.

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I'm not scared to say it, but then I don't say it.

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I guess that's God's mystery.

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What?

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Again, I'm babbling here.

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It's not God's mystery.

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It's a baseline awareness of libel.

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That's what I would assume.

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That's the only way that that makes sense.

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Alex has a recognition that if like, it's all good and well to like libel someone like

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Hillary Clinton or George Soros, they don't really care and they're not going to even

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dignify you with a response or sue you, but you could fuck around and accidentally say

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something about some media organization that's libelous like they're on the Chinese payroll

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and they might sue you.

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Fox News wouldn't be stoked about that.

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No, not Fox News.

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No, no, no, no.

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Someone smaller than that might though.

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You run a risk that someone might actually respond to you in a way that people like Hillary

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or Soros wouldn't.

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I think Alex is aware of that and that's God's mystery.

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So that show is a disaster.

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The 23rd is the worst.

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It's really bad.

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Alex is off his game.

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Nothing really interesting happens.

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Then the 24th comes around and I was like, I didn't think it could get worse, but this

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show is one of the worst I've ever heard.

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Really?

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Yes.

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Oh boy.

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And it's one of those interesting things.

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Like I really do think that maybe there is some sort of a cosmic connection with like

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my birth.

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It was your birthday.

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And Alex is just so bad on this episode.

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Like in some ways that are actually incredibly funny.

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And some that are like, that's, that's disturbing.

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And others that are like, go to bed, go home.

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You're done.

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You're done.

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Just call it.

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Yeah.

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So we start off with Alex claiming that the New York Times has confirmed some of his narratives.

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And I said, 11 weeks ago with Dr. Steve, that this was already in the population and that

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they already knew it.

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And that a lot of folks had already died from pneumonia like symptoms, but Steve already

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cured it and it's tough, tough virus, tough stuff.

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But the response to all of it and the hysteria is the hoax, the power grab.

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And now it was in the New York Times yesterday that, oh, it turns out it was already in the

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United States in November, but still we've all got to stay locked down, ladies and gentlemen.

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So I couldn't find a New York Times story that matches what Alex is talking about.

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As such, I'm kind of left to use context clues to figure out what he's rambling on about.

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I reviewed a bunch of possibilities and I'm pretty sure Alex is just misrepresenting comments

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that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo made about the timeline of the outbreak.

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Cuomo was talking about the delay in action and said, quote, so what's the lesson?

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An outbreak anywhere is an outbreak everywhere.

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When you see in November and December an outbreak in China, just assume the next day it's in

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the United States.

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When they say it's in China, just assume the virus got on a plane that night and flew to

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New York and flew to New York Airport and now it's in New York.

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That has to be the operating mentality because you don't know that the virus didn't get on

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a plane.

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All you need is one person to get on that plane in China and come to New York.

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The way the virus transfers, that's all you need and you can't assume two months later

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that the virus is still going to be sitting on a park bench in China waiting for you to

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get there.

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Cuomo wasn't admitting that there were cases in November or December.

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He was saying that your mindset in November and December should be to assume that there

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are.

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The bottom line is this has nothing to do with there being cases of COVID-19 in the

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United States in November.

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As far as we know, there's pretty solid consensus that the first known case was this of the

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coronavirus in the United States presented on January 19th and was a guy in Washington

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who arrived at a hospital having a cough and a fever for four days.

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He'd returned from visiting family in Wuhan on January 15th.

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Is it possible that there were cases prior to that?

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I mean, it's not impossible.

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It's just pretty unlikely, according to experts.

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Alex has done nothing to demonstrate his assertion and until he does, he's just talking shit.

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I challenge Alex to show his work and saying that Steve Pachanik said so isn't good enough.

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Fuck him.

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I doubt it.

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I doubt that I'm going to take the word of the guy who cured coronavirus in January.

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I don't think I'm going to trust him.

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Probably not.

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But it is such another thing that it's impossible for people to cross that line of like a gross

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overreaction means you've saved lives.

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So how can it be a gross overreaction?

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Right.

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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That is a difficulty.

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What is the acceptable?

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Oh, we overreacted to this.

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Only a thousand people died.

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Dude, that's a thousand people who didn't need to fucking die.

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You know, like that's not an overreaction.

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It's the correct reaction.

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It's so fucked up that people are still framing it as though that's our choice.

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It's either a gross overreaction or...

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You can easily see how even the optics work in their favor.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Of course.

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It's just unfortunate.

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It's just tragic.

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So Alex is on borrowed time because he's been getting threats, like I mentioned, from these

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here globalists.

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Now, I've been told, and at a certain point I'll go public with this, but I've been warned

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and I've been told, if you don't shut up, you're dead or we're going to put you in prison.

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And now they are preparing to put me in prison right now.

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Fine.

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They're killing everybody.

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What the...

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Idiots.

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All of you are dead.

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Every single one of us.

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They're murdering everyone.

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I'll explain how they're doing when we come back.

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This is the real world, folks.

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You better grow up.

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OK.

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This is such a load of bullshit.

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He should speak to a mirror sometimes.

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In order for Alex to be put in prison, there would need to be a crime.

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There would need to be a criminal charge.

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And I don't know if I'm aware of any crimes that Alex is looking good for right now on

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a criminal level.

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Beyond that, in order for him to be sent to prison, he would need to stand trial.

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And if he were innocent, he'd have every opportunity to prove it.

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He's a rich white dude.

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He would be afforded every benefit of the justice system.

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I don't believe that any of these imaginary globalists, if they were real, would ever

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want to put Alex on trial.

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Even if he's guilty as shit, all you're doing is giving him a gigantic platform to play

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the victim and create his own martyrdom narrative.

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So I guess they'd have to kill him.

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But that makes even less sense.

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This entire time, for Alex's whole career, his answer to why he wasn't dead yet was because

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he was too high profile.

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So the globalists knew that killing him would only make him more powerful.

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They knew that killing Alex would only confirm that his narratives were true, or so Alex

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believed.

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Is that no longer the case?

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Because Alex is still super high profile, so it stands to reason that the globalists

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know that they can't kill him without inadvertently proving him right about all the bullshit he

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yells all the time.

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To be clear, I don't believe that Alex is alive because he's too high profile to kill.

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I think he's alive because none of the public figures he targets really care about what

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he says, and they rightly view him as an idiot.

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But for 25 years, Alex has argued that he's only alive because he's high profile.

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But now, I guess that doesn't mean anything.

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The only reason the globalists never killed Alex before is out the window, and I guess

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he's been told he's fair game or something.

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This is all a load of shit, and it's clearly a preemptive narrative about something.

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He knows his days on air are numbered, and he's gotta be sure that there's a myth in

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place before that so no one thinks his downfall was his own fault.

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For posterity's sake, he has to make sure you know that he was the victim in all this,

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which is great.

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Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking whenever he was starting to talk about how all of right-wing

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media is owned by the globalists is like, eventually, when he goes down, everybody's

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going to talk about it.

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There is going to be a national day of dunking on Alex.

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It will become a holiday.

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And probably a lot of right-wing media will even sell him out.

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Of course.

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Sell him out pretty hard.

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Of course they will.

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Because they will want to differentiate themselves from him somehow in order to sort of push

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him underwater so they can get some air or whatever.

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The way the machine works on the right-wing media is the moment somebody goes down, everybody

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on the right-wing media piles on like, all of our problems, all of the things that we've

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fucked up forever, those are him, and that's not us.

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We are not like him.

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See, he went down, so he must be the only one who actually did something wrong.

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Yep.

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There you go.

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I think Alex knows that.

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Oh yeah.

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So Alex has been yelling about Bill Gates forever.

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He hates the dude.

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I'm fine with that.

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Sure.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about how, like, listeners have been sending him intel

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on Bill Gates.

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Sure.

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Which is funny because you've been studying him for decades, apparently, allegedly, but

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now he's got new information.

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There's one piece of new information, which I'll get to at the end of this episode, and

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it is a dud.

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Is it this?

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No.

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What is this?

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I don't know.

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Okay.

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The listeners and the general public are doing deep dives right now, and they're flooding

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us with documents and videos I've never seen before, like you'd think I know everything

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about Bill Gates.

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I don't like to know about Bill Gates.

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You would think that.

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I get physically ill when I have to look at him or read about the stuff he's doing because

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he's murdering me and my family.

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He's killing me.

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He's killing my children, and he thinks it's funny, and most of the public thinks it's

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funny telling it's not, and if I've got to die so that he can't go on killing everybody,

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that's fine.

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I want him to know that.

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I'm not scared of him.

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I'm scared of not taking action, and he runs the whole thing, folks.

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He's in charge of the planet.

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What you've got here is why it's really smart for Alex to have kind of multiple big villains

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because Soros doesn't work right now.

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It doesn't work, but when there were counter demonstrations and protests to the right-wing

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marches and stuff like that, Soros is the perfect villain, so Bill Gates falls out of

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favor for Alex, and he focuses largely on Soros.

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Even though Bill Gates controls everything about Alex.

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Sure, apparently, or maybe that fact checker is all in charge even above Bill Gates.

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Right, and then Soros is somehow in the middle.

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Everyone is still in play, but the particular villain of this season is whichever one is

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more primary to the narratives and the sort of the themes, you've got Bill Gates here

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for stuff like this.

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Whenever there's funding of Antifa is the primary narrative, you've got Soros.

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This is how this works.

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I just had the image of some aide, some personal assistant to Bill Gates just walking up to

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him leaning down real close and just whispering in his ear, Alex Jones wants you to know that

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he will gladly die if it keeps you from killing people, and Bill Gates just nodding George

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W. Bush style, just like, all right, get him.

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Or he just pulls out a button.

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So all that's a load of bullshit.

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Now, this is one of my favorite things in the world.

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We know that Alex believes that movies are reality, but Alex chose a really wrong example

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of...

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Cool Hand Luke?

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No.

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Cool World.

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Not that either.

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And again, why did Ian Fleming, who was like number three in command at MI6, OSS in World

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War II, why did he write Moonraker in the 60s, where there's a world government of

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secret scientists that release a bioweapon to kill the entire human population.

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They go to a space station to be safe.

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In reality, they're going to go into bunkers.

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Why would the number three guy in MI6 write a book about that?

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Because folks, that's the point.

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Because we had just gone to fucking space.

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Nope.

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Ian Fleming was never third in command at MI6.

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During World War II, he was the personal assistant to Rear Admiral John Godfrey, the director

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of Naval Intelligence.

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So he was in the mix with some intelligent stuff, but Alex is inflating that.

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Also Moonraker came out in 1955, not in the 60s.

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Also all the stuff Alex is talking about, none of that stuff is in Ian Fleming's book

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version of Moonraker.

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That's all just from the movie, which Ian Fleming did not write the screenplay for,

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and pretty much has nothing to do with other than the book has the same title.

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You see, what happened was that in the closing credits of The Spy Who Loved Me, it says Bond

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will be back in For Your Eyes Only, which was planned to be the next Bond movie produced.

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But then Star Wars came out, and it was a gigantic box office hit.

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The producers decided to shelve For Your Eyes Only and go with something that could involve

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space, and the title Moonraker is about as space-sounding as Fleming's titles got.

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The plot of the book is that there's a guy named Hugo Drax who's building a nuclear missile

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defense system for England called Moonraker.

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It turns out Drax is secretly a Nazi, and he's planned this whole thing in order to

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nuke London.

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Bond foils the plan and saves the day, more or less your standard Bond storyline.

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No space, no false flags, no bioweapons, or hiding out in orbit or bunkers or whatever.

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The film version is a bit different.

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However, it wasn't written by Ian Fleming.

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It was written by a guy named Christopher Wood, who had previously written a series

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of sex-rops under the pen name Timothy Lee.

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The entire plot was changed.

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Moonraker was no longer a defense system, it was a space shuttle.

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In the movie version, Drax plans to head to space and then release nerve gas onto the

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planet to kill people, eventually repopulating the planet with people he thinks are from

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good stock.

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There's plenty of discussion about this among Bond fans, so this is a completely different

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movie from the book that Fleming wrote, and it's super, super clear that the reason that

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they were doing that was trying to cash in on Star Wars.

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Yeah, I do recall that.

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Also, most people who like Bond movies think Moonraker sucks.

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It does suck.

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Anyway, Alex has just seen that movie and thinks that it's in any way connected to the

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book that Ian Fleming wrote.

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He has literally no idea what he's talking about, he's just making shit up.

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Please understand, Alex has just seen movies and pretends that he's done research.

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He's a fucking idiot.

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That is annoying.

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I didn't know that about Moonraker, that's interesting to know.

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It's literally the worst example Alex could use, and pretending like Ian Fleming wrote

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this to externalize the plan.

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That's so funny.

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He's never read Moonraker.

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That is so funny.

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Yeah.

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I cannot believe that he would, because of course, well, you can get away with it.

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It's not like anybody has read Moonraker.

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A lot of people have.

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Not who listened to Alex Jones.

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No.

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No, so you can get away with it.

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Bond fans have.

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Yeah, everybody will be like, oh, it's Moonraker from the movie.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's a feature of a number of Bond movies.

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They're not necessarily really accurate to the books.

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Yeah.

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I mean.

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Ian Fleming's books.

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The books aren't great.

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I don't know.

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I've never actually read them.

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I'm not super interested in that genre.

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I've not seen a lot of the Bond movies either, because I think they're, first of all, a little

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bit shit.

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It's just from sort of interpersonal issues, him sport-fucking everybody that's a little

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bit old.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I just, I don't know if I love spy genre.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's not.

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Yeah, I don't find it all that interesting.

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I can think of From Russia with Love.

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That one, that was a good Bond film.

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Yeah.

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And then I think we're pretty much done after that.

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You only die twice?

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Never Say Never Again.

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You can't say never again.

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You can never say.

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GoldenEye.

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I saw GoldenEye.

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Did you like GoldenEye?

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I know that.

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I remember that because of the video game.

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I just love Sean Bean in anything.

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I'll watch Sean Bean die in anything.

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Oh, I thought you were saying Sean Bean was Bond.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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No.

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Sean Bean was 006 in that one.

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I do like theme song.

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Yeah, it's great.

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Yeah.

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It's a good theme song.

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I like the opening credits.

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Those are pretty fun.

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And they got the barrel.

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Yeah, that's great stuff.

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Austin Powers sucks.

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I don't know.

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That scene in The Simpsons, whenever Scorpio, that one's based on a Bond film.

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Even when I was a kid, I thought fucking Austin Powers sucked.

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I did like the Pink Panther, though.

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That's kind of spyish.

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Yeah, the Pink Panther is great, though.

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But that's more of a jewel thief situation.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's less of like a direct parody of Bond.

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Yeah, but Pink Panther is so funny.

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Yeah.

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I love that.

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I love that first.

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Pink Panther holds up, by the way.

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Yeah, it does.

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I watched it recently, but it still holds up.

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Although it's a very different movie than you think.

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Of course it is.

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It's not a zany.

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No.

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It's very slow at the beginning.

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Yeah.

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But I like it.

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David Niven.

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He's great.

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He's the best.

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He played Bond once.

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Let's stop this.

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Okay, so Alex thinks that Moonraker is the real world plan.

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That's fucking hilarious.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is talking about this, how Moonraker is the real globalist plan and what have you.

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And obviously, as we've just discussed, he's completely stupid.

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But this gets into him talking about like the globalist want to exterminate people.

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And he kind of says that he's cool with some extermination.

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Well, who isn't?

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And remember, there's some truth to the fact that in some areas, obviously, humans are

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weighing down the environment.

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Things aren't innovating.

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There's massive IQ plunging and just just hellish conditions.

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And the solution for that is going to carry out the extermination.

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Who decides who dies?

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Whoa.

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Find out it's run by people like Bill Gates and Bill Clinton, who are sickos and it's

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all about power.

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And you then you find out they're hitting the entire genetic line of the public and

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have programs designed to target leadership males with high IQs and to target them for

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drugging and then for not having positions in society.

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Sure.

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Love to hear that Alex's opposition to extermination is conditional.

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That's great.

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Great to hear that that's not absolute.

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I'm interested to know how this whole eugenics scheme would be better.

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And yet somehow this one see the problem with this whole eugenics thing where we're exterminating

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people is this one's about power, Dan.

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If I were exterminating people, it wouldn't be about power to be about my power.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think that if you're a sincere actor and you're opposed to the sort of thing like

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eugenics or an extermination, you wouldn't be like, my problem is who's carrying it out.

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Right.

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Your problem would be that it's happening or that it is a thing.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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You would think that would be your problem.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If we kill off everybody in the Sudan or whatever.

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That's cool.

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Yeah.

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And at no point in time does he ever consider a more equal distribution of resources could

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also solve this problem.

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No.

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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No, that's communism.

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He's just starting at the place of, well, obviously we need to exterminate people.

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That's the only explanation for what's going on.

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I'm not saying that he's saying we need to, but I'm saying that he's saying that it's

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a get it.

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If you say we get it, I don't know if there's a middle ground on there.

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Personally, I don't think that there is a middle ground, but in terms of just taking

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him by the strictness of his words, he's not advocating extermination.

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He's just saying it would be okay if Bill Gates wasn't doing it, which is shit.

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You need an ethical extermination, Dan.

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That's the real issue here.

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Yeah.

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And they don't need to target high IQ males like he thinks himself to be.

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Yeah.

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You'll be safe in that targeting round, Alex.

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In this next clip, Alex makes a prediction about what we'll see in the future.

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Sure.

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And I swear to God.

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Moonraker?

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I think this is from a movie.

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I don't know what it is.

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Maybe Demolition Man.

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All right.

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Maybe one of those.

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Do you know what the three seashells are?

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That's what this is.

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No, I don't know.

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It's about the three seashells.

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It's not Demolition Man.

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It's one of those other shit movies.

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I don't know.

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This is some sort of a- Are you saying that Demolition Man is a shit

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movie?

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I might be.

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And you're going to wake up one day, folks, and there are going to be people dying and

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throwing up.

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You're going to die.

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Stay in your houses.

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It's okay.

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And then the robot trash trucks are going to come around, and a robot's going to go

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in and put you and your dead family in the back of that trash truck.

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Repo Man.

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If you keep submitting like this, I think they're five years out from that.

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If you don't submit, 10, 15.

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So it's inevitable.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Is that Repo Man?

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I don't know.

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It feels like it's robot trash trucks within five years.

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Yeah.

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It's okay.

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I'm going to put that in the ledger for predictions.

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All right.

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Well, let me ask you this question-

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2025, the next year of the seltzer, we'll find out if there's robot trash trucks.

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Also robot trash trucks might be something that does happen, but not for like picking

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up corpses.

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I think robot trash trucks will be here, and if there are corpses necessary to be picked

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up via only robot trash trucks, I'm not saying-

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I highly doubt that.

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I'm sorry.

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Go ahead.

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I just wonder, what would be preferable?

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If you know it's going to happen either way, doesn't it make sense to just get it over

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and done with as opposed to being like, hey, we'll fight as hard as we can for an extra

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10 years?

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No, because Alex's whole thing is it's about stalling the globalist's plan.

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Sure.

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That's the only thing that's really worth pursuing.

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Right, right, right, right.

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So no.

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Yeah, I mean, you could-

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I mean, if we've only got-

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Ten years is preferable to five.

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No, if we got five years, then we could use that five years to grow as people and more

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humanly connect with others.

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But if we have 10 years, we could spend all that time fighting against this and not grow

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at all.

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Ooh, now that I like.

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And then sell food buckets and make a lot of money.

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You sold me on that, not the food buckets.

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Right.

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So we're in a situation where people are wearing masks, we're trying to distance as best as

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we can, and Alex wants to talk solutions, because we're in a situation in the world

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that requires solutions.

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And Alex-

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I'm going to go with a more equal distribution of resources?

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Nope.

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Is that what he-

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I'm going to go with solutions.

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I'm not wearing masks in these stores.

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Cool.

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And making them throw me out.

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Solution.

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If you're having an anxiety attack, they can't make you do it, or if you have a medical reason.

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And so we're going to print some of these up on Infowars, and you can make your own,

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but be on view.

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But see, I have a psychological disorder in my physician, Dr. Kornbluth, whatever you

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want to put on there, said so.

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So Alex is suggesting that people have fake conditions in order to be able to wear masks,

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or not wear masks, and he's going to sell masks that say that or something.

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I don't know.

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This is so stupid.

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I've got a solution for you, Dan.

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What?

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Fraud.

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More revenue streams.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So in this next clip, Alex explains that if anything happens to him, it was Bill Gates.

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Sure.

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Which is continuing this trend of real doom.

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Yeah.

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Doom.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And the death threats and the, you know, just amazing stuff, folks.

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I'm not liberty to get into it yet, but it's the future.

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And you know about that, by the way, these groups have tried to buy me off as well.

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And other folks, it's worked on them.

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It's not working on me.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And remember, anything happens to me, Bill Gates, he's coming after all of you too.

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Anything happens to you?

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So all of you will take care of things, but the big thing here is taking care of our children.

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I'll talk about that next hour.

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Also taking care of yourself.

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We have storeable food available in the last 25 years.

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It's high quality.

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You need to get it.

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Can't miss an opportunity to sell.

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Racing, racing through that ad pitch.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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So Alex goes into a long thing about how like the globalists want you in cities, right?

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So what they're doing is they're raising taxes to make it so you can't live in rural areas

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or something.

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Okay.

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I don't know.

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I don't, I don't know about that, but be that as it may, Alex's solution, it seems to be

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that he wants people to start like extremist, extremist right-wing compounds of you again,

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what are you going to do about it?

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We have to establish communities and I do this low key to, you know, we don't want cults.

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You don't want to call them cults.

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None of that.

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We want communities that say, Hey, we're not liberal, we're not conservative.

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We want to conserve humanity.

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We're pro-human and just have laws where, um, real safety studies that are out there

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have to be followed.

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And we're all this crap is prohibited and we're no, we're not going to have the local

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convicted pedophile come have, you know, the five-year-old sit in their lap at school and

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just where all this evil is not allowed and they're going to attack those communities.

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It's okay.

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That'll drive us closer together and make us stronger.

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But the Exodus has to happen.

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We have to get out of these cities past.

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We can't wait anymore.

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We've got, you've got to launch a worldwide movement to escape the kill grid.

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The cities are giant mass murder, bio weapon, electromagnetic cookers.

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Thank God you made sure to point out this wasn't a cult.

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Yeah.

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Don't call it a cult.

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I kind of got the feel that that would be a cult.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's either a cult or a terror cell.

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I don't think there's much difference between what he's describing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no.

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And that generally speaking, extreme separatists have been shown to be pro-human, right?

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They accept everybody.

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They definitely don't build these walls and fire guns at them.

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No, no.

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That'd be crazy.

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They're pro-human.

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Love them.

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Yeah.

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So Alex has a guest.

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Uh, this is where everything goes so fucking wrong on this episode.

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Okay.

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I love it.

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This is this.

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I ended up like, okay, Alex has two guests.

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Okay.

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I don't want to spoil anything, but I looked into them for no reason.

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So they've got some substantive, uh, substantive, you'll see what happens here's Alex introducing

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the first guest.

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Dr. Shiva idea.

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Ray has an amazing background, MIT, all bright scholar, the inventor of email.

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I'm not going to go over his whole bio.

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He's a prestigious guy, but he's not like foul cheat who gives us all these fake models

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that are now been 30, 40, 50 times worse than what a reality was.

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So first things first, Shiva is a rare person on info wars who actually has some credentials.

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He has a PhD in biological engineering from MIT, but the claim that he invented email

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is where things start to get a little off track.

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Uh, Shiva claims that in 1978 or 1979, or maybe in 1980 at the age of 14, he invented

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email and that his achievement has not been recognized because he's not white and he didn't

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work in the realm of the system.

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This is one possibility or another possibility that some people have pointed out is that

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email existed prior to 1978.

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There were large computer networks that were linked for communications in the early 1970s

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through ARPANET.

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And I have no idea what to even do with these claims.

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I, DeRay wanted the Smithsonian to recognize him as the inventor of email.

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So he sent them a bunch of documentation and this is the Smithsonian statement upon review.

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Now quote, exchanging messages through computer systems, what most people call email predates

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the work of I, DeRay.

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However, the museum found I, DeRay's materials served as signposts to several stories about

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the American experience.

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So they accepted his materials because they reflected his experience in the early days

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of computing and that was relevant to history, but it didn't show that he invented email.

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The big piece of evidence that I, DeRay has that he's the inventor is that he has a 1982

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right claim for email, but it's not for email.

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It's for his specific program that he wrote.

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This claim is clearly undefendable in court seeing as he doesn't own Gmail and places

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like the Washington Post have had to print corrections after accidentally referring to

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him as the inventor of email.

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Oh no.

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Yeah.

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Oh boy.

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I personally have no stake in this.

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I could care less whether or not this guy invented email, but there are some people

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like folks in the world of computing history who are not so chill about this.

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They do not like Shiva I, DeRay, and some have had some pretty scathing responses to

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his claims.

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People are quick to praise the fact that he was a teenager and he made a program to send

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emails to a small group of computers in the seventies.

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Like there's nothing to take away from that.

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It's impressive.

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Yeah.

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But the consensus I seem to see is that he didn't create anything that didn't already

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exist.

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Outside of this stuff, especially lately, I, DeRay has become a bit of a public kook.

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In 2018, he tried to run as a Republican in the Massachusetts midterm election, hoping

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to unseat Elizabeth Warren.

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Did he do it?

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I suspect he had the good sense to realize he wasn't going to make it out of the GOP

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primary.

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So he ran as an independent, ultimately getting 3.4% of the vote.

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That's not terrible.

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No, I mean something.

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That's pretty respectable.

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It's not much, but it's something.

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No, it is.

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At this point, he's running in the GOP primary for the 2020 election, hoping to unseat Ed

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Markey.

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I predict he'll be running as an independent again.

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Once the coronavirus situation has broken out, I, DeRay has gone full on conspiracy

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weirdo, and started spouting a bunch of the bullshit narratives we've heard Alex disseminate.

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On March 23rd, he published a letter that he sent to Trump, where he talked shit about

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Dr. Fauci, and suggested that all people need are some vitamins and iodine.

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Hey!

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It'll be good to go with no need to quarantine or distance or anything like that.

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I invented a way to send that through a computer network.

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This is a non-medical doctor sending unsolicited medical recommendations to the president,

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which is the hallmark of a non-crazy person.

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One of the main angles lately has been to get Dr. Fauci fired.

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That's one of his big things.

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They love that shit.

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As he told Politico, quote, we have bureaucrats who run science and bureaucrats who run medicine,

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and you can talk to pretty much anyone in academia.

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They'll tell you behind closed doors that Fauci epitomizes that.

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Ooh, Fauci, this disgusting bureaucrat who graduated first in his class at Cornell Medical

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School who holds a medical degree, unlike I, DeRay.

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I, DeRay, and past info as guest and fellow Senate campaign loser, Diana Lorraine, are

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two of the most prominent voices in the Fauci camp.

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This has nothing to do directly with I, DeRay, but I wanted to read this little passage from

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Politico about Lorraine's complaints about Fauci.

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Quote, his projections have changed constantly.

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I think he first started predicting two million plus deaths, Lorraine complained, saying she

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understood the number as the total number of projected deaths.

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Quote, and now it's down to 60,000, and you know, why such a sudden change?

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That's a pretty drastic change.

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The two million plus number comes from the famous Imperial College study, forecasting

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the results of an environment with no social distancing measures taken at all.

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Lower mortality projections are the result of extreme social distancing, such as shelter

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in place orders and business closures.

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Lorraine said she did not know about that distinction.

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There you go.

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Wow.

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There you go.

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I appreciate her honesty.

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Wow.

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I'm just being like, oh, I guess I should, oh, I guess I don't know what I'm talking

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about.

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I might be an idiot.

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Am I stupid?

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But also, isn't that weird?

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How that's exactly the complaint Alex was making about Fauci in the introduction for

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a Siva.

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I do.

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Right.

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It does seem consistent.

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Yeah.

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People are reactionary childish idiots.

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Anyway.

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It doesn't look like I do.

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Ray invented email and he's in the middle of just like this lunatic blitz trying to

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rile up the Trump base for his doomed run in the 2020 congressional election.

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It's all very pathetic and dumb, but it's also causing direct harm to people probably.

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So I hope he has trouble sleeping at night.

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Yeah.

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I'd be a real bummer to invent something and then suddenly put your head like you're in

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your room, like studying and you're trying to get everything and you invent this system

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and you're like, this shit is going to change the world.

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And then you pop your head out and everybody's like, we've had that for a while now.

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Like motherfucker.

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Well, I mean, it would, it would still be really impressive.

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And I think that you could probably get a lot of respect within those worlds.

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If you didn't insist, you needed to be like seen as the inventor of the, like trying to

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take away the, uh, the work and the achievements of people who came before you, I think turns

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off a lot of people kind of think you're an asshole.

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This isn't like an Isaac Newton situation where nobody else had shared it with anybody

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before it.

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And then he invents it and they're like, nah, we already found it.

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Now it's he, he didn't do it now.

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So a is going to be on here in a minute, Dr Shiva as he's known by his fans.

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Um, but before that, Alex says something profoundly stupid.

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How many have died worldwide from the virus that they're hyping up and counting every

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death that has these tests for COVID-19 that they admit are all incorrect, almost all of

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them false positives.

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If you've ever had the flu in the last year or so, you test positive.

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If you have the coronavirus, there's thousands of them, well, that test positive COVID-19

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and the people that are rallying around the hysteria in the left want to keep America

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shut down.

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They want to create a mental illness.

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They want to create a phobia where you just expect, Oh, you can't go in the ocean.

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Sharks will eat you.

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Even though only about 30 people a year get eaten by sharks worldwide, they estimate you

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got it.

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Well, this is a lot worse than that.

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193,000 worldwide.

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Alex is just making up that part about the tests for COVID-19 all being false positives.

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Yeah.

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It's literally nothing to back that up other than just repeating it over and over again.

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More importantly, Alex is severely overestimating the number of people eaten by sharks every

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year.

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I was going to say, he's saying that there are 30 people eaten by sharks every year.

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When in reality, it's only four people who are killed by sharks every year.

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On average last year, it was only two.

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Now this might seem like a minuscule distinction and it might feel like I'm nitpicking, but

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I'm not the difference between four and 30 is a 750% error, which is very significant.

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And sure.

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You can say that I'm being a Dick.

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But the point Alex is trying to make is that there aren't that many shark attacks, but

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we fear them because of movie depictions and stuff like that.

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And fair enough.

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I'm not disputing that point.

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I'm saying that Alex just made up the 30 number to try and act like he actually knows how

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many people get eaten by sharks every year.

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He doesn't.

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It's completely made up as a number and you just want, just trying to make up a number

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that sounds small to him, but in reality, in actuality, it's way, way higher than the

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real world number.

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This is a deceptively important point.

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A lot of the time, Alex knows something.

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In this case, that there aren't that many shark attacks.

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He wants to convey that point that we think that there are more shark attacks than there

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actually are because he wants to use that as an analog to the virus, but he thinks that

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just saying there aren't that many shark attacks, that doesn't sound good enough to be convincing

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and authoritative.

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So he just makes up something to fill in the gaps.

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He knows his audience have no idea how many people are eaten by sharks and he know that

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they'll just believe whatever number he says, so he pulls 30 out of his ass.

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He does this all the time with small details like this and big narratives.

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This is what he does with headlines.

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He knows what the headline of an article says, so he just runs with that and makes up the

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details of what he assumes are in the article.

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He's seen the movie Moonraker, so he just assumes the book is the same and he makes

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up stuff about Ian Fleming writing it in order to reveal the globalist plots.

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A microcosm of Alex's career is very well encapsulated in a throwaway lie about people

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getting eaten by sharks.

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He just makes stuff up in order to fill in the gaps that he wants to.

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It's all nonsense.

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Once you start to realize that, you really start to see it everywhere.

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There's another small problem with that is that this isn't like sharks because the only

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way it would be like sharks is if when you got bitten by a shark, you became a shark

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yourself.

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Then maybe there's a little bit of a comparison between the two of them.

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That is a part of it.

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This is not a...

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Shark bites are not a communicable disease.

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Also there's a little difference between being eaten by sharks and being killed by sharks.

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We get to Dr. Shiva coming in and there's trouble right out of the gate because Alex,

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like I said, he has two guests on that episode.

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It turns out that Dr. Shiva does not like Alex's other guest.

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Big pharma is failing.

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They need to put in big vaccines.

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As we've gone after them like blood hounds, particularly with the fire Fauci campaign

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and the immune system work I've done, you know what happens, Alex?

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There are people like Robert Kennedy Jr. who's been in this movement for a long freaking

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time who has suppressed this movement from people building a bottoms up movement who

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goes finds other people like one of the guys you're going to have on your show and pushes

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those people forward.

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They speak the same rhetoric, but there's Zippo on Hillary Clinton, nothing because

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Robert Kennedy endorsed Hillary Clinton three times and the entire Kennedy family, post

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John Kennedy, is institutionalized, not so obvious establishment.

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Well, listen, I know you're in Massachusetts and so we just so happen to have this other

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guest that you disagree with on later.

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You're welcome to get into that person as well.

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Let's just stop for a minute, let's just stop for a minute, we're gonna go break in a minute.

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I don't care if guests disagree with our guests on the show, I'm not running a cult here.

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I know you're a really smart guy.

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I want to get into the big picture.

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We don't allow bashing of Hillary Clinton here, I'm joking.

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So Alex is deflecting there a bit and he rushes to break after Dr. Shiva says this stuff about

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how his other guest who's coming up is a shill and you know that because he works with Robert

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Kennedy Jr. who's a limited hangout to try and corrupt the anti-vax movement.

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He works with Robert Kennedy.

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I thought Robert Kennedy Jr. was about to be on the show and I was like, man, I did

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not know he was crazy.

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No, he is.

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He's an anti-vax dude.

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He's crazy.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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God damn it.

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Yeah.

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Isn't that, you didn't know that?

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No, I don't give a shit about the Kennedys.

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Why would I give a fuck about the Kennedys?

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They're, you know, like they had two good ones, maybe.

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I don't even know if I would give them two.

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Yeah, no, Robert Kennedy Jr. is one of the big players in the anti-vax world.

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Oh, he should be stopped.

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Yeah.

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Not in a Kennedy way though.

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I think most people are just kind of like, alright, whatever man.

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So yeah, Alex's other guest is somehow associated with Robert Kennedy Jr.

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So Dr. Shiva believes him to be a shill because he won't point the finger at Hillary Clinton

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hard enough or something.

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So Alex rushes to break and here's how he comes back from break.

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Yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on here and I really like Dr. Shiva.

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Hi to you Ray.

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He really is a smart guy.

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I enjoy hearing him talk.

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And we happen to have this Dr. Rashid Bataar already set up because he's been criticizing

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Bill Gates.

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He's been criticizing the vaccines and man, Dr. Shiva out here, Ray, was getting really

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upset saying, well, I can't be on the same time, you know, with this guy, I'm like, well,

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you're not going to be on the same time with him.

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He's like, well, I can't come on if that guy's going to be on.

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I'm like, well, I don't do the ultimatum stuff.

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So that's just the way it is.

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And you know, the show kind of becomes this deal of, oh, this guy's coming up for Hillary

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Clinton.

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I'm like telling him on air and off air.

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I'm like, go ahead and if you dislike somebody and you want to come on the show and we're

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talking about that, you can do it.

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But so many people, these media shows become who can go on whose show.

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People always say, don't go on Alex Jones's show.

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And then people say, well, if you have that person on, I won't go on your show.

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And I just don't do that.

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I don't do that.

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That's, that's, that's not what I'm involved in.

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Everything's completely transparent here and I mean, I guess I'll still have this Dr. Rashid

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Batara on.

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I want to hear what he has to say because he's criticizing Bill Gates and talking about

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Fauci being full of crap.

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And we know that Fauci is full of baloney.

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And so we're here exposing that and that's what we do.

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So there's that train wreck that you just saw part of off air.

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And so I think I'm gonna just probably table this issue and move on.

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I would do that too.

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So apparently Dr. Shiva really, really doesn't like this Rashid Batara character to the point

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where he is now gone.

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He has just left.

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Wow.

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There are...

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He was on the show for like two minutes, talked some shit, Alex rushed to break and now he's

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gone.

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Who knows what the fuck happened there?

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But I can tell you this with absolute certainty.

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I don't care.

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No.

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I don't care.

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He had his own duel of the fates there between his doctors, Dan.

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That's what happened.

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Yeah.

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So Alex says that Rashid Batara is a medical doctor.

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As it turns out, he's an osteopath, which in and of itself isn't a horrible thing.

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But when you're an osteopath on Infowars, you're automatically very suspect.

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And suspect is a great word for Batara.

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In 2007, the North Carolina Medical Board recommended that Batara no longer be allowed

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to treat children and cancer patients after finding that he charged a whole bunch of money

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to apply unproven treatments on patients.

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Incidentally, one of the treatments he apparently used was IV hydrogen peroxide, which is bleach.

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Hey!

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The reason that the board wanted to stop him from treating cancer patients is because his

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unproven and ineffective treatments were severely dangerous.

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The reason they wanted him to stop treating children was because part of his hustle was

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claiming that his chelation treatments could, quote, cure autism.

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I thought we were going to get there.

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Yeah, which was of course caused by vaccines.

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Yup.

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Batara is famous because he had an association with fellow anti-vaxxer, Jenny McCarthy.

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And because the media played along with his bullshit in 2009.

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An aspiring cheerleader for the Washington football team named Desiree Jennings claimed

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that a flu shot had given her dystonia, a neurological disorder, but she was cured by

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Batara's chelation treatments.

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Oh, God.

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There were so many problems with her story.

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Chief among them, according to the initial story about her case in the Luton Times,

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she saw over 60 doctors trying to diagnose her condition.

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From the article, quote, Desiree has seen her primary care physician, physical therapist,

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speech therapist, neurologist, neuropsychologist, psychiatrist, and a bevy of nurses.

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Amazingly, it was her physical therapist who provided the clinical diagnosis, dystonia.

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That's intensely suspicious.

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The fact that she saw a neurologist who didn't catch this, but somehow her physical therapist

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did, that's weird.

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I have no idea what the reality of the situation is, but I don't see any proof that this is

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what she had, nor do I see any evidence that this was caused by a flu shot, nor do I see

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any evidence that Batara did anything to cure her.

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King's case was championed by Jenny McCarthy and her group Generation Rescue as an argument

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against vaccines, and the media ran with it on shows like Inside Edition.

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Hey!

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They pointed to the fact that her case was reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting

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System to give it elevated credibility, although that would end up being a bad move.

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These reports in that system don't contain identifying information, but they are public,

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and dystonia is super rare, so there aren't many cases that are filed with that as a symptom.

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The examiner looked into it and found her adverse event report, and it includes this

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line, quote, the admitting neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component

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to this symptomology and made a final diagnosis of weakness.

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I don't mean to mock Jennings at all, because it's entirely clear that she was very likely

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suffering with a real condition that she was trying to get help with.

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It just doesn't seem like this had anything to do with a flu shot.

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It's really just unfortunate that in all likelihood, she was used by people with a ridiculous anti-vaccination

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agenda.

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And anyway, that's how Rashid Bataar got a bunch of attention by being attached to this

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case.

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Gotcha.

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More recently, he's become notable as a coronavirus conspiracy theorist and talking some basic

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ass in for shit about Fauci and Bill Gates.

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Man, I remember whenever I was still doing the hearing aids thing, somebody told me that

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their yoga instructor told them that they had Lyme disease.

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And they just were like, so we went to the real doctor, or they didn't say real doctor,

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I'm editorializing there.

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We went to the doctor and he said that nothing was wrong.

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So then we went to Florida and tried these experimental treatments for Lyme disease and

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you're like, oh God, no, no.

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Why did you do that?

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Yep.

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And Rashid Bataar is one of these folks who profits off that stuff.

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So anyway, Alex is still going to talk to him or maybe he's not.

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So enough drama.

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Let's move on from this guys.

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Enough drama.

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Shut it down.

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I love guests and stuff, but quite frankly, our ratings are higher.

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We don't have guests.

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And I like guests and I don't just do things for ratings, which has extremely high ratings

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everywhere it's put on.

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Everybody knows that.

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I do things for money.

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A lot of times we used to take a break from a guest, man, because you know, it just becomes

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a big giant, I just got out of junior high in junior high and I wanted out of junior

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high and I went to high school when I was in high school and I just, it's just not,

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not, not, not the waters in which I swim.

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In fact, we're going to, we're going to cancel all the guests today.

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Turn into a fiasco.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So I ended up looking into both of these dudes for no reason.

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They both like Shiva ends up bailing and Alex cancels Dr. Bataar.

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What the fuck?

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Just nonsense.

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Hey, look at these two people are being dramatic little babies.

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So cancel it all.

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I don't give a shit.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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I like that.

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Totally grown up response to somebody whining one time.

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Yeah.

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Very much.

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I love that Alex is scolding them for immaturity being a baby himself.

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You guys are children, so I'm going to take my ball and go home and my dad is going to

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be real mad.

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Yeah.

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So left to his own devices, Alex starts rambling and he ends up complaining more about how

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no one seems to care about all these people starving civilizations, very tenuous and it's

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breaking down irrevocably right now.

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It may be too late to avoid a gigantic, deep, prolonged depression, an extra 20 million

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people on top of the 10 million already starving to death are dying right now.

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These are real people.

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These are little kids with ribs sticking out on them.

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Okay.

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And my God, the liberals are always like, oh, let's go take abandoned dogs and cats

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and let's take them in and take care of them.

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Okay, great.

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How about we take care of some people because you write off all those people you've just

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written your self and everything else off.

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It's just that simple.

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Obviously, I agree with Alex that more should be done to address the severe issue of world

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hunger, but I have to ask why he hasn't cared about this up until now very recently.

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It seems very convenient that this would pop up right now.

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If he was so concerned with people starving in the developing world, why did he support

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Ron Paul, who has been preaching the gospel of eliminating all foreign aid since at least

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1980, which would lead to the deaths of untold numbers of people?

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Why hasn't Alex cared at all that an average of nine million people die of hunger-related

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conditions every year?

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Why hasn't that been a part of his normal coverage, let's say back in 2017?

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Is it possible because he doesn't give a fuck about the actual issue and he's only using

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it as a political prop in order to justify his other positions and pretend like he has

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some kind of a moral high ground?

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Let me answer that for you.

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It is.

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Oh, okay.

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I find it that there would probably be an overlap between the people that he would be

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fine with getting exterminated and the people currently starving to death.

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It's interesting.

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Now, that's just my general vibe.

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I would imagine.

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Yeah.

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If you consult The World Counts, which tracks hunger statistics, you'll see that a lot of

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progress has been made in terms of tackling the world hunger crisis, but there's still

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a lot of work to do.

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In 1990, there were over one billion people living in hunger, but by 2015, that number

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was down to 784 million.

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Obviously, still way too many, but that's a drop of about 20%, which is not nothing.

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Every year since then, we've seen a reversal of that trend.

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And by 2018, we're back up to 822 million people struggling with hunger and undernourishment.

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One of the big issues surrounding this, according to the UN, is that countries where hunger

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is on the rise are seeing rising income inequality, which is compounding the problem for the most

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vulnerable populations.

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Hunger is another crisis, and both of these issues are only going to get worse as the

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effects of climate change become more pronounced.

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This is a very complicated and serious issue, one that the UN and affiliated non-governmental

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organizations do a tremendous amount of work combating and trying to find solutions to.

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It's deeply disgraceful for Alex to point to all the people around the world living

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in severe food insecurity and pretend that somehow if we were able to go to the movies,

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it would all be okay.

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It wouldn't be, but don't kid yourself.

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It's a societal decision we're making not to put more resources toward solving these problems.

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It's a policy decision to fund or not fund programs that provide food to vulnerable people,

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and Trump doesn't seem too interested in the kind of policies that fund that stuff.

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In his 2021 budget proposal, Trump looked to cut more than $180 billion from the Supplemental

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Nutrition Assistance Program, or approximately 30% of its budget, over the next 10 years.

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This would come along with cuts to programs to provide free or reduced-price school meals

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for kids in need.

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Trump doesn't give a fuck about hungry people in the country he's the president of.

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How can you even pretend for a second he cares about people who are hungry in a foreign country?

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It's fucking absurd.

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Considering how many times Trump has talked about and followed through with cutting funding

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to the UN, you have to assume he doesn't really give a shit about the effect that could have

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on the ability of things like the World Food Program operating.

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Here's what I would say.

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I admire Alex caring about people in the developing world dealing with hunger, even though I know

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he's only pretending to care.

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I don't want to succumb to cynicism here, so I'll try to build on that pretend concern

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he's presenting, and I challenge him to look in the mirror and realize that the only two

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politicians he's ever really loved, Ron Paul and Donald Trump, would let every last person

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in those foreign countries die if it meant getting rid of some taxes.

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And you know who would be fighting to help those hungry people?

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The same people who are now, who have been for years, the people Alex insists are the

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villains.

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So fuck you, Alex.

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Look in the mirror.

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It is amazing to me that billionaires don't have somebody right next to them going, here's

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why you want to give away all of your money.

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Income inequality is at an all-time high combined with a less access to food and water and basic

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housing.

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Sooner or later, this is going to happen.

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Your money is going to go away, and you can choose whether or not you want to be around

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afterwards, because this is not going to stand.

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It's either that, or they feel like they've done enough to build a perfect castle that

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they can watch the rest of us die and then pick up the pieces.

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There's not much other thing to say other than they're stupid, I guess.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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So that's all awful, and that's the last I'm going to say about his stupid starvation shit.

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Yeah, fuck that.

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Because I really find it offensive.

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On a level that, like, many of his narratives I find offensive in the same way.

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But it's sort of like, there's the goofy dumb shit, like Moonraker, that's kind of like,

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oh, I could talk about that all day.

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And then there's these things that are just like, it's repulsive.

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The saying that doctors are just having orgies is right on that same sort of territory.

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It's like, you go, just quit.

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Now, Jordan, we get to the best thing.

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I don't know if it's the best thing, but this is really where things broke apart for me.

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Like the two guests fiasco.

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Fantastic.

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Right.

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So here is where, like, I'm already on the second episode, and I'm like, all right, come

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to the end of this thing, or at least it felt like it.

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And then I was just like, oh no, this is things, just the wheels off the wagon.

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Hi, I'm your host, Alex Jones.

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I want to make a very important announcement here.

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This is the time to do it.

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I've been pondering doing this for many, many years at different junctures that I knew that

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myself, the country, the world was at a particularly dangerous point, but I've really held back

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doing it.

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I'm moving in with my dad.

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In the next few days, I'm going to come into the studio or I might just do it live.

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This is just really kind of a precursor right now and record my last broadcast or if I die

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broadcast, because I'll be here in five, 10, 20 years, I hope to turn this around.

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What the climate we're in, what's happening in the world, how the globalists are now moving

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at lightning speed at every level.

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Now is the time to record the final broadcast, a broadcast that would go out after I've been

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killed or silenced and to just really make the most important statements that need to

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be made in a concise, cogent way.

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What a douche.

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Alex, if you have things you want to say, just fucking say them, cut out the bullshit

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theatrics of talking about recording a special episode released after you die like some kind

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of a low-rent dead man drop.

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This dumb-dumb has his own radio show with no boss, no sponsors to please, and a completely

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brow-beaten staff who clearly don't stop him from doing whatever the fuck he wants.

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Does he really expect anyone with half a brain to believe there's some kind of real important

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information that he's been holding back for the past 25 years?

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This is spectacular theater, though, and it's either just Alex being a dramatic little baby

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or it's him legend building.

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If you're someone like Alex and you know you need a satisfying denouement that leaves people

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puzzling over your career forever, then what better way to do that than claim you're going

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to record a final episode that lays everything out and then never do it.

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Rumors will fly about someone who had a copy of it.

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It'll become a hot debate about what was said in this mythical tape.

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The only way to make this better is if he insists on doing it on VHS because his career

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started analog and it's going out analog.

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No, stop it.

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This would be awesome.

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God.

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The reality of it is if he did do a last episode, it would be the biggest masturbatory episode

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in the history.

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It would be him jerking off.

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There wouldn't be any new information.

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They'd be like, hey, remember how great I was that time?

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Yeah.

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That was pretty great.

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You remember how great I was that other time?

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That was pretty great.

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Most likely, he'll record something- I miss nonk.

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I miss nonk so much.

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Yeah.

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He'll just record something where he's crying and yelling about the globalist, referencing

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Bill Joy's article in Wired, basically just going down the list of all of his buzzwords

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and catchphrases and aligned with something like, avenge me, or something equally dorky.

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What I'm getting at is I refuse to get all excited about this.

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I have absolutely no faith this will happen and if it does, I have no faith that it won't

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be the biggest dud of his fucking career.

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I will put this conspiracy theory out there.

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All right.

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It does exist.

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Uh-huh.

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Already.

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It's on VHS.

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It has to be on VHS.

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It has to be on VHS.

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And he pulls the computer chip out of the homeless man.

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Oh, that'd be the best.

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It's the legend.

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Yeah.

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That's the way it is.

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The opening salvo here is saying that he's going to record this and it's going to be

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something that will be released once he's dead.

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He very specifically said that, but now everything changes.

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Let me just have this little short precursor to my final broadcast, which again, I hope

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will not be my final broadcast, but will be one that I will air as if it was my final

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broadcast.

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So it's on record.

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In case they shut us down, it at least is out there in some form, though they are good

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at removing things now with their AI system and all their little dutiful human helpers.

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So now I'm confused.

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Is Alex's plan to do a show where he pretends to do his final show, but it's not going to

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be his final show and it's not going to be something that will only be released in the

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event of his death?

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It sounds like a guy who's really trying to hint to his audience that this shit is over,

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but he doesn't have the balls to just come out with it.

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I mean, what is it for him to say on his fake last show?

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What like hasn't he had the time to say in a quarter century on air that he thinks he's

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going to prove in a couple hours in the whole time?

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Ha ha.

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Yeah.

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There's that.

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Or like, Hey, globalist means Jews.

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Guys.

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Yeah.

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There are very few straps.

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Some serious shit.

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There are very few things that I can imagine him being like, this is the end of the career

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review.

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Might as well.

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Might as well pull this one out.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I am Bill Hicks.

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Like what?

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What would you know?

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What would what?

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Let's see.

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What is his big secret that he's been hiding?

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That tape of Reagan getting pegged was real.

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He's got a copy of it.

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The only way that this works satisfyingly is if he doesn't do it, but makes a big deal

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about how he's going to do it.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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What I laid out is the only way this is awesome.

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That would be his, that'd be the best last broadcast too.

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If you reveal, no, that's what he should do.

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He should reveal that it is his last broadcast after saying he's going to do this whole last

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broadcast thing and then be like, surprise.

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This was it.

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Well, and I didn't say a goddamn thing.

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Jordan.

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It kind of feels like that's what this show is kind of does because it starts to get like

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really retrospective right after this.

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There we go.

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This seems to me like correct me if I'm wrong, but the way Alex is talking here, it seems

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like he's reflecting on his career in hindsight, as opposed to it being something that's ongoing.

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It's with a real sense of urgency and sadness, but also of accomplishment and satisfaction

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that I have come much further than I ever thought I would.

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And I didn't ever expect to hold a position.

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I was trying to warn everybody believing there were men better than I was better than I on

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the leadership that would want to stop a worldwide government extermination program that makes

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the Nazis look tame.

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And there's been some resistance.

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There's some people in the government and systems that aren't for it, but the death

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cult is too well dug in and too well entrenched.

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Globalists are too strong.

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We failed.

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They're not.

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They're going to do what they're going to do.

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That really seems like a retrospect.

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That seems like I'm done.

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The career is over.

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That's got a this is your life kind of thing.

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That's a guy at like 58 who's worked at the same company for 33 years and is in forced

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retirement.

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He's given that speech of like, I just want to say that I accomplished a lot here.

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I didn't do everything I want to do because they forced me out.

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They furloughed me.

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I had seven years left on my contract.

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Anyways, I thought I did a really great job.

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It's a guy at the end of his career giving a speech, but it's a guy who failed whatever

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his big goal was.

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But also needs to be like, I didn't totally fail.

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It really feels very much.

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I invented email after all.

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So look, you know, hey, sure, globalists are too strong.

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They're going to win in this round or whatever, but Alex assures everyone that oral tradition

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will save us.

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Sure.

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I've done a lot of analysis on it and a lot of research.

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We've heard them so bad that even with A.I. censoring all future text through the spoken

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word and through the oral traditions, the truth is getting out.

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And when they kill almost everybody, there will be a large human resistance of hundreds

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of millions that will take them out.

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Humans can do anything when we're enraged and motivated.

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And that's really what matters now, doesn't it?

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And the good thing is we weren't hit flat footed.

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And we're going to get these people in the end.

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I won't be here.

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Most of us won't be here.

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But I'll assure you, the New World Order is not going to get immortality.

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They're not going to merge the machines.

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And they sure as hell are going to pay for what they've done, dumbing us down, turning

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us against each other, promoting racism in the name of fighting it, promoting their damn

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Satanism and their pedophilic crap everywhere.

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And I can feel God's pure rage.

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That way won't let me sell my body.

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It's distorted and it has some evil in it.

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But that's only my flesh.

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I can feel God's pure enlightenment and pure rage at what's going on here.

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And I can assure the New World Order, the Hillary Clintons, the Bill Gateses of the

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world, the Rothschilds, all of these New World Order people that you are going to be destroyed.

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So I mean, a lot of this is fairly standard stuff.

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But it also feels like exactly what, I think it feels like he launched into what his idea

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of my last broadcast will be.

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That's how it feels.

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It really does.

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My guests are going to win.

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I won't be around.

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It's not going to happen.

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But oral tradition, getting the word out.

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The resistance lives on.

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Exactly.

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The resistance lives on after I'm done.

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That's the dorky avenge me kind of thing that I predicted.

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So it just goes on.

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And Alex is like thanking his audience for like almost like it just feels like there's

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so attempt at closure.

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And I can see our work together.

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Everything you've done as listeners, as viewers, promoting the truth, being attacked for it,

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pushing out our articles and videos, even though they're imperfect and embarrassing

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in ways.

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But it's human.

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It's real.

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And it's it's it's uncoordinated.

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Because it is coordinated.

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It is it is it is absolutely real, authentic.

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And the enemy knows that.

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And they just don't know what to do about it.

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And so humanity is beautiful.

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Oh, well, we're going to make it through this together, but it's going to be rough, folks.

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And I, for the first time in my life, began to feel guilt having children yesterday.

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I've always known that we have to have children to bet on the universe.

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Oh, boy.

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And to get closer to God and to not be selfish and to mature and to really become your ancestors.

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Sure.

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But there is an injection of the future there will for us to survive and share our time

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together and share our humanity.

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And it's that human experience.

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It's so beautiful.

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It is the journey.

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That's the destination.

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And anyone that tells you that you're not essential, anyone that tells you you're ugly

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or you're bad because of where you're from or what color you are or any of that is get

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the fuck out of here.

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So I'm the fuck out of here.

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So I'm listening to this and it really sounds to me like a guy who's about to sign off and

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not come back.

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And I noticed that this is the last segment of the hour, like he's in the middle of the

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last segment.

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Yeah.

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It starts to make sense.

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It's Friday.

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This is how he's going to wrap things up and then go on a sad weekend.

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And then I realized that this is the second hour of the show.

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In theory, he still has another hour of show after this.

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How do you recover from this kind of Academy Award lifetime achievement speech that he's

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on?

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And then do another normal hour of the show?

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Why the fuck didn't he wait an hour to do this?

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He knows how long his show is.

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This is crazy.

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That is that.

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And that's another movie.

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That is the broadcaster in any disaster movie where it's like, this is look, the asteroid

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is coming.

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We have eight hours left.

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I was eternally privileged to share this time with you.

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Humanity is beautiful.

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It is.

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We will survive.

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It is beautiful.

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Jesus.

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And fuck you, Alex.

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If anyone tries to make you feel bad skin color or where you're from, you're evil.

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Yeah.

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She's so then Alex gets around to a message for black people.

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No, no, just tell people of color something.

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The party is founded and is run to enslave and kill you.

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The Republicans are just establishment blue blood dorks and don't know what's going on.

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And most of them and you have to understand the eugenicist.

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They don't want to just get rid of what they call the third world populations.

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They want to get rid of everybody because these people hate themselves.

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They have they have bought into such selfishness and they've inbred in just such disgusting

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ways.

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And you can inbreed black people.

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You can inbreed whites and inbreed anybody and you get monsters, folks, you get selfish

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psychotics because you're not supposed to have sex with your brothers and sisters.

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You're not supposed to have kids with them.

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And these people are mentally ill.

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OK.

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And they're dangerous and they're bad.

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And we've got to fight them.

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I can't remember.

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Jordan, is this a family show?

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So Alex's message to people of color is that the Democrats want to kill everybody.

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Yeah.

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But the Republicans just want to kill you.

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Yeah.

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Or altruistic duty or something.

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Vote Republican.

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Maybe.

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Oh, boy.

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I also recognize that I said that this is an Alex was saying a message to black people.

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But, you know, he says people of color.

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Yeah.

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You know why?

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I was wrong because I never would imagine that Alex would say people of color.

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What the fuck is up with that?

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That is a good point.

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That's very weird.

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That is a good point.

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He does seem to be dropping the basket.

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How is that?

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I'm going to use the word black people's rights and I'm going to use the snowflake term that

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whole thing.

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It's very strange.

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It's very strange.

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Also I do think that Alex rambling about how you're not supposed to fuck your siblings.

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That is what he would say on his last show.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's just good advice.

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Sure.

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That's just good advice.

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So this is the real point.

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Really, if you want to distill everything down, this is the message he really wants

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to get out.

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And I just don't want folks when you see me drug through the mud and attack, it's not

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about Alex Jones.

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They do that because they see info wars as last man standing as what they fear males

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standing up strong and saying, no, being afraid and rallying fellow humans and then women

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getting involved in waking up and waking others up there.

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They're worried about humans coming together.

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And so the reason you need to know that I'm a winner and that you're a winner is that

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when they say they've destroyed me, when they say they killed me or they put all these lies

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out, you have to understand that they did that because we were too strong.

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And you don't have to believe that I'm a loser.

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We're winners, folks.

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You have to know I'm a loser.

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Whatever bad things are about to happen, hey, don't don't don't believe that stuff.

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Don't believe it.

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Yeah.

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Hey, you're going to hear a lot of bad stuff about me.

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And let me be honest, it's too strong.

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None of it's true.

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It's because they hate males.

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Right.

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So Alex discusses how, like, they're only destroying him because he's too strong or

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something.

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And he remembers that Star Wars exists.

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And you don't have to believe that I'm a loser.

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We're winners, folks.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi, to give you a cheesy analogy, was not the loser when Darth Vader cuts him

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down.

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He's the winner because he chose to do that so the young generation would get pissed off.

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I think Alex might have missed the point of Obi-Wan's line about how Vader strikes him

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down and become more powerful than he could possibly imagine.

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Alex seems to think that Obi-Wan is saying that his death will be a rallying event for

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the next generation of Jedi.

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But I don't think that's the point.

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I think it's super clear that he's talking about how he'll become more powerful because

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he'll become one with the Force and gain all sorts of powers after he dies.

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Well, there is that.

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Become a Force ghost.

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Yeah, there's that power.

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I guess you could interpret it as being about Luke being inspired to learn to become a Jedi

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in response to Obi-Wan's death.

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But that doesn't really make sense, given the quote being, I shall become more powerful,

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and all sorts of other minutiae about Force ghosts that I have no interest in getting

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into or exploring.

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I wouldn't expect Alex to have a good handle on this, though, because as we've seen, he's

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a prequels guy.

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Yoda can still shoot lightning, a post-Force ghost, so we know we're good.

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We know it's cool.

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Yeah, I would rather be a Force ghost than a regular old Jedi, man.

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That sounds great.

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Probably, yeah.

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Pop up in whatever planet you want without having to worry about it.

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And you can't be hurt.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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There's life after death.

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And you can still hang out with your buds.

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Totally.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Samuel L. Jackson's there.

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Yeah, why not?

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That's awesome.

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Of course, because Alex is doing this weird thing that may or may not be his intended

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last broadcast or something, he starts thinking about Colonel Travis.

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Sure, of course.

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And he almost starts crying, talking about that drunk Yahoo.

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That drunk idiot.

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Just like Colonel Travis at the Alamo knew he was going to die, but he really believed

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in Texas.

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He didn't like the tyranny of Santa Anna.

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He didn't like the fact they wouldn't let him be Christians.

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He wanted his own tyranny.

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The fact that they'd engaged in massacres just like and he wanted to be like his grandparents

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and his father and others that had fought the British stories about guys fighting, you

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know, six to one, 10 to one.

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And he aspired to that.

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And so he laid down his life with 180 plus other people show that other people would

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see an example, not a failure, but a victory.

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That's a victory controlling yourself and figure until there's not even fear anymore,

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but absolute pleasure in in the blessing of being persecuted and being destroyed for the

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right thing and standing against the lies and knowing you're right and knowing you know

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God and knowing there's good and evil and choosing God and knowing God's real.

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Alex knows nothing about Colonel Travis.

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Just based on his description, that is not a guy I want as my commanding officer.

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The guy who's like, I've always dreamt of going up one to ten.

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No, I would like you to get reinforcements.

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I want to go back.

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I want to survive.

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We should probably get a better tactical position.

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Yeah, all of this stuff.

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Maybe now Colonel Travis, I'm just saying maybe we're the ones doing it wrong this time.

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Colonel Travis didn't end up at the Alamo because of some pursuit of a noble death.

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He was running away from debts.

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Yeah.

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Because he's a drunk asshole.

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Anyway, this is how the the the segment ends and ends the second hour.

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And like I said, like this should be it.

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He should go home.

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Yeah.

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This is like you got nowhere else to go.

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You're screaming.

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Remember the Alamo.

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Yes.

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It is.

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It is.

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It is an extreme honor to stand against the new world order, not persecution, not a failure,

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not any of that.

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And it's such a short life to stand up for what's right.

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That's what everything is about.

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And I know I'm stating things that are obvious to everybody, but we have to turn loose of

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any fear or even any guilt because if I keep pushing this hard, I won't be here for my

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children.

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And God's like.

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Well, I'll be there and see, that's the secret of 2017.

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Our ancestors made such sacrifices for the promise that their progeny would be given

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providence.

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The Providence is like a torch or a baton that has to be passed forward.

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And we have to pay in blood and I will, and I know you will as well pull the right back.

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That's it.

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And the end of the show, end of show, end of info Wars.

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Go home.

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If you are there and you are like one of Alex's employees, it is your responsibility to stand

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up and walk out.

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David Knight will take over whatever you are.

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You got to get off air.

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If you want to gather your thoughts and record some sort of a message by all means, do that.

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We'd love whatever shape you're in right now.

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You're live.

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All right.

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You can't do this.

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I don't know what the fuck.

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So he, he, he doesn't though.

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Of course not.

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Alex back to business.

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Alex comes back and it's as if that didn't happen, the wildest thing ever got a sandwich

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during the break.

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Dan, he got a Snickers, he got blood sugar, so he didn't go home and this is how he starts

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the next segment.

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All right.

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I want to give the number out.

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I want to take your calls and I've got a bunch of clips of news to cover, but it just gets

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to the point where this just gets so disgusting.

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But the good news is everyone I know is totally rejecting stuff like together at home, world

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government propaganda with lady Gaga stumbling around up there.

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Lady Gaga on record has to have someone sleep with her in her room because demons try to

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eat her at night.

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She admits that, wow, that sounds like a wonderful God.

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You serve instantly stand on a mountain in my mind and just see for infinity, no fear.

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I couldn't imagine serving a God that ravages your brain where you live in constant torment.

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Yes, you can.

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That's a damn virus.

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Alex seems to be in constant torment.

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That's the God you literally talk about all the time.

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He seems like he's constantly tormented.

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I don't know any other way to explain him.

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Anyway, Alex is talking about a 2013 lawsuit filed by Gaga's former personal assistant,

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Karen, one of the claims that was made was that she was made to sleep in the same bed

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as Gaga because she didn't get her own hotel room and Lady Gaga had tasks for her even

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at night.

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Quote, O'Neill testified in a deposition that if Lady Gaga was watching a DVD in the middle

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of the night and grew tired of it, she woke her up to take out and replace the DVD.

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At worst, you can say this is an instance of a pop star having unreasonable demands

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for a personal assistant, but Alex is taking this a little bit far.

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What he's doing is combining that story with a 2012 interview Gaga did where she discussed

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a recurring nightmare she had involving a demonic phantom and how she discussed the

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dream with Deepak Chopra.

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Alex has combined these two things into one story that kind of works better for his purposes

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but isn't true.

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So that's what's going on here.

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Yeah, that sounds about right.

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Yeah, it's all bullshit.

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Anyway, good thing you didn't go home.

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But the way he describes God in his mind, that's a total God thing to do.

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That's one of his God's favorite things.

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He's got demons on all of us all the time.

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Yeah, it is true.

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It's strange.

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Now, Jordan, I would explore this longer, but I have to get to this next clip.

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This is weird.

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Alex is talking about...

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As opposed to everything else we've talked about today, which is absolutely just mainstream

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boring nonsense, doctors fighting.

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So Alex is talking about here in this next clip about how the people go along with the

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New World Order, right?

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Even Hogan went along with the New World Order.

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Yeah, he was the third man.

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He was the third man.

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We're trained to go along with things, right?

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Something like that.

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And he gets into a metaphor about villages.

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And I find this really interesting.

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This is one of the more fascinating, weird things of his brain.

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Those of us that do feel and do see how crazy things have gotten and who know what's happening

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and who already understood it, we're like, don't you see it now?

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Why are you going along with this?

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Because humans are designed to go along with each other, grow up in a little village and

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dad and grandpa and grandma take you down and you catch fish.

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And when they tell you, don't go by that crocodile, later you see that crocodile eat a deer or

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something.

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You know, they told you the truth.

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And your whole life, people around the village were good.

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There was like one guy that was crazy and bad and he got out of control and hurt somebody.

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So some of the men grabbed him and threw him off a cliff one time.

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But the village is good.

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What?

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It's not sick.

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That sounds sick.

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And your village becomes successful because you're planting crops and you're hunting and

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all of a sudden you're not a hundred people, but you're a thousand people.

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Oh boy.

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You're talking about you, buddy.

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And the con artists show up.

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And the traveling con artist comes into your little town, could have been an ancient Africa,

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could have been ancient Europe, could be an ancient Asia, ancient Latin America.

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It's always the same story.

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The witch doctor comes in the bad witch doctor and he says, you've been bad and you don't

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believe in this God.

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You haven't given an offering.

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So it's going to eat the sun two weeks from now.

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Okay.

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That sounds like Roger Stone.

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Is he talking about Roger Stone?

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This sounds like his career in a nutshell.

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This is a metaphor.

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Yeah.

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The bad witch doctor comes in and I'm thinking, okay, all right, this is weird.

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Yes, it is.

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It goes on a little bit.

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This is very strange.

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It's always the same story.

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The witch doctor comes in the bad witch doctor and he says, as opposed to the good witch

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doctor, you've been bad and you don't believe in this God and you haven't given an offering.

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So it's going to eat the sun two weeks from now.

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Well, that person just has mathematics and history and a priesthood has told them the

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dates that these things are going to happen.

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What?

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This is how the common archery began.

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What?

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What?

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And everybody laughs at the guy and whatever, they throw him out of the village.

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But in a couple of weeks, the sun gets eaten by the monster and he walks out and he's got

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some primitive fireworks.

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He's dug out of a mine, he strikes them and some blue flangoms out of the fire and he

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goes, bow down to me because I'm the representative of the God and I will make the sun come back

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that you know cures illnesses and grows the crops that you know keeps you warm and you

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really like it.

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And you get on your knees to him and he goes, okay, set me up in the best area of the village.

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So this goes on exactly how you'd expect.

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He starts ruling over the village and stuff.

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This sort of thing that Alex is expressing is really the same kind of vein as ancient

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alien stuff, where white people have a complete inability to imagine that non-European cultures

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of the past were capable of anything without some kind of outside help.

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For ancient aliens people, it's using aliens to explain things like the pyramids.

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Thalix, it's saying the bad witch doctors had some secret knowledge of eclipses that

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they used to bamboozle ignorant people.

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As far back as 2136 BC, the Chinese knew perfectly well about eclipses and according to History.com,

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quote, Emperor Chang Kong executed his royal astronomers, Hai and Ho, for failing to predict

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an eclipse.

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They had folklore-based explanations for what was happening, but that didn't mean that the

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people were all terrified of an eclipse in the way that Alex is describing.

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The Inuit people have legends about their moon god and his sister sun god fighting,

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which explained the lunar cycle and eclipses.

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It was two quarrelsome siblings chasing each other.

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The story Alex is telling is fairly close to the tradition of the Bata Maliba people

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from Benin and Togo.

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In their tradition, the two matriarchs of the world, Kayokok and Pukapuka, presided

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over the first village.

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As it grew, people started fighting with each other, and in order to get them to stop, the

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two made the sun disappear.

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That got people's attention, so everyone made peace with each other and gave gifts of reconciliation,

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and the women turned the sun back on.

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This tradition continues, and the Bata Maliba view eclipses as a time to make peace with

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each other.

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So it kind of is like Alex's story, but it's also the opposite.

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I have no idea what Alex is talking about, but it legit sounds like something from a

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children's movie.

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If he had some kind of a citation for the art of the con originating in bad witch doctors

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showing up to villages around the world armed with secret knowledge of eclipses, which they

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then used to become rulers, I'd love to see it, but I don't know if it's based on anything

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real.

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Interestingly, though, this exact story that Alex is telling is a trope of early English

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literature from the late 1800s.

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However, it's white people using eclipses to fuck with native people.

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From The Savage in Literature, Representations of Primitive Society in English Fiction, 1858-1920,

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by Brian Street, quote,

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Gullibility is a feature which enables British sovereignty to be maintained by the use of

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Western knowledge and technology to frighten the simple native into submission.

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Perhaps the most famous and memorable example is the use of an eclipse to overawe the native.

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In King Solomon's mind, the travelers take advantage of an eclipse to reinforce the native's

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belief that they are gods.

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Also, side point, it's very likely that this is where Alex is taking his story from, because

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he keeps referring to the person in his telling as a witch doctor, which is precisely who

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the villain of that story is.

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Quote,

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If he and his fellow travelers can make the natives believe it is through their power

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that the face of the moon is darkened, then the natives will abandon their evil witch

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doctor, Gagool, and follow the white men.

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This is a very popular theme in literature around the time that sought to emphasize white

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European supremacy.

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From Street's book, quote,

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The theories of anthropologists are used in popular fiction to provide various explanations

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for primitive attitudes to situations which become traditional themes in fiction.

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The ease with which the native can be deceived is brought home to the reader by the vivid

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use of eclipses, and academic theory is used to explain the native's reaction.

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I'm not positive that this is where Alex is getting this from, but it is like a trope

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of this European fiction from around the time of colonial pursuit.

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I've read books with that kind of shit in there.

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I did not realize, looking back, it does seem obvious that eclipses are the white man's

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burden that Rudyard was talking about.

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That's what makes the most sense to me.

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Definitely.

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It's just what we know.

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We just have to carry that knowledge of an eclipse on our back stand.

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Yeah, so I'm not positive, and Alex never cites anything when he's talking about these

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witch doctors that would come because they have the secret knowledge of the brotherhood

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or whatever.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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I'm willing to explore whatever he's bringing to the table, but from everything I can tell,

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it seems like these are these Eurocentric 1800s versions of stories about the quote

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unquote savages.

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Hello!

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You guys can't understand math.

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Your skin color's different.

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Right.

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And Alex just believes all of that is...

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Yeah, basically.

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Yeah.

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So Alex, in this next clip, talks about how he got up really early that morning and he

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watched Trump's press conferences.

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And he loved it.

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He has an interesting thought about it.

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Okay.

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And I hadn't watched Trump's press conference from the night before I was with the kids.

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So I watched the whole thing, including the others that came out after him.

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And I mean, I think it took years off my life, man.

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Huh?

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Huh?

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Huh?

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It will.

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Trump knows they've turned the public into like three-year-olds.

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So let me tell you, Trump doesn't talk like that, folks, when he's talking to somebody

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smart.

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He finishes your sentences.

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You don't get the dopey talk stuff, but he knows they've put people in a childlike state.

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So he goes, I bet I said sunlight might have been good.

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And then we asked the scientist and they, we have a big super laboratory and they found

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out for the first time that sunlight kills the virus.

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And then he goes, and I bet it does something good with your skin.

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I know the media is going to attack me.

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I bet sun hitting your skin helps it.

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This is super interesting to me, man.

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In the past, Alex has just flatly ignored all the many, many times Trump has said completely

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fucked up and stupid things in his press conferences.

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He just acts like those things didn't happen.

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I guess like he must've felt like this one was too big and stupid to ignore.

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So he's just come up with this narrative that Trump was acting stupid because we're all

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so stupid.

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This is amazing stuff.

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And it definitely doesn't sound like someone trying to rationalize another person's abusive

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behavior.

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As for the stuff that Trump is saying about like UV lights, we've gone over that already.

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The type of UV light that's used to disinfect things would fucking fry a human.

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This is not Trump saying, Hey man, isn't the sun wonderful?

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It's him talking about his ass about technology he does not understand.

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I have no, I have no sympathy anymore.

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Like if you're, if you still support Trump, you get what you get, man.

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You just, you just listen to the president, the guy you wanted to run the country, tell

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you to inject yourself with bleach.

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Well, go fuck yourself.

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Not according to Alex.

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Don't care.

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All Alex is saying that Trump said that the sun's good for your skin.

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If you can rationalize a guy saying, inject yourself with bleach away, you win the cognitive

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dissonance prize.

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The sun is good for your skin.

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You got it.

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You won.

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I mean, everyone should just be outraged by that, but they're teaching you like Donald

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Trump is not a doctor.

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So he can't tell you that the sun is good and good for Trump.

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Honestly, he can't for your skin, the sun is good for your skin, sun is good for you.

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I know you know that.

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So here's what Trump said in that, uh, in the press conference that everyone is up in

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arms about quote.

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So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just some very

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powerful light.

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And I think you said that it hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it.

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And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either

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through the skin or in some other way.

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And I think you said you're going to test that too.

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It sounds interesting, right?

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And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute.

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And is there a way we could do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

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Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number of, uh, on the lungs.

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So it'd be interesting to check that.

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So you're going to have some, uh, you're going to have to use medical doctors with, but it

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sounds interesting to me.

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He wasn't saying that the sun was good.

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He was spitballing weird ideas about UV technology that he doesn't understand and implying that

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because disinfectants work to kill the virus on surfaces, then maybe you could inject them

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into you and to do a good job inside the body.

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The next day, when asked about it, Trump tried to pretend that he'd brought up these things

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sarcastically in order to fuck with reporters, quote, just to see what would happen.

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And that Jordan is a relief that the president of the United States was using his press conference

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in the middle of a pandemic to suggest potentially lethal non-treatments for the virus just to

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troll reporters.

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Yeah.

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It's, uh, I feel confident it's worse if he knows what he's doing and he doesn't, he doesn't

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understand that.

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He thinks that when he's saying I was being sarcastic with you, then he's like, see, I

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wasn't stupid.

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I was just really, really evil trying on purpose to get people killed.

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His explanation of like, I was just fucking with a reporter is like, you just think in

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his mind, he's like, you've done it again.

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You guys had no idea I was lying to you.

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I'm a genius.

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So Trump said he was just trolling.

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And then of course it came out that one of the leaders of the Genesis to church who promote

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the use of bleach as a miracle cure for all sorts of ailments had sent Trump a letter

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earlier that week from an article in the guardian quote in his letter, Mark Grennan told Trump

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that chlorine dioxide, a powerful bleach used in industrial processes, such as textile manufacturing

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that can have a fatal side effect when drunk is quote a wonderful detox that can kill 99%

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of the pathogens in the body.

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He added that it can quote rid the body of COVID-19 a few days after Grennan dispatched

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his letter, Trump went on national television at his daily coronavirus briefing in the white

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house on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment

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for the virus.

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The group is also the subject of an investigation because of their medical claims about bleach.

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And the article goes on to say that quote, Grennan said that 30 of his supporters also

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have written in the past few days to Trump at the white house, urging him to take action

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to protect Genesis two and its bleach peddling activities, which they claim could cure coronavirus.

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I have no idea if these two seemingly connected things are related, but one guy who's pretty

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sure they are is Mark Grennan.

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He was pretty pumped about Trump's press conference.

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Alex seems to not want to bring up this part of Trump's comments and just wants to pretend

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that all he said was sunlight is good, which is weird.

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It does seem like the New York's attorney general should send Trump a cease and desist

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letter for making false medical claims.

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Maybe.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is mad.

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Like, you know, they say that Trump can't say sunlight is good because the doctors,

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these doctors.

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Sure.

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And then Alex starts complaining about interactions he's had with doctors.

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Yeah, I believe that.

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I remember in my divorce, the court ordered psychological and they wrote in the report

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and I'm sitting there and the guy goes, how much money does your company bring in a year?

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And I went $25 million and the guy looks at me, you know, I was, this is like six years

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ago and, and, and I, and I went, you know, that's the gross I, I, you know, I, I don't

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make that.

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Okay.

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Well, the next question, do people talk about you in restaurants?

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Like do people ever whisper about you?

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And I said, yeah, he put the report.

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He goes, well, Jones claims he makes $25 million.

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We know that's not true.

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And he says, people talk about him.

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I don't know who he is from a guy with a doctorate put because he didn't know who I was talking

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about one dimensional that I made up $25 million and I made up people talk about me, Alex.

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Come on, man.

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In a grocery store, Alex, don't tell this dog culture super famous.

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And I walked over and I said, Hey, it was Dr. Drew in your report.

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It says that I made it up that, uh, people don't know who I am.

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Do you still think that he said, and he said this to one of the lawyers too later, I learned,

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Oh, I never said it was conclusive that you're a narcissist because people talk about you.

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I did.

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Didn't have proof.

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See, that's how the science works.

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Yeah, man.

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That's how the science works.

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Yep.

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So Alex is really pretty defensive about this idea that he was diagnosed as a having a narcissistic

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personality disorder.

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And so he's really going at this doctor from his divorce proceeding.

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You could say narcissistically laughing at me.

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You don't bring in $25 million.

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And I thought he was joking.

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I went, yeah, yeah.

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I'd be, I'd be, you know, we sell products that we fund ourselves.

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So that's, that's how we fund things that it costs a lot of satellites, bandwidth viewing

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that that a lot of that product costs most of that and I'm the employees.

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I mean, I'm, I'm, you know, you, does it make you mad about your, and I said, are you trying

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to make me mad?

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No, I don't care.

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You don't know who I am.

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I said, is this some kind of, the guy's completely mentally ill folks.

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I was court ordered to go sit there so he can zip his pants down cause he went through

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it and then piss on me and like, nobody knows who you are.

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And I didn't tell this story about me because about me, it's how ridiculous all this is

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that this nobody now is like this God and pronounces the conviction that because I'm

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pro-human and I'm confident and I believe in humanity that they've made that a mental

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illness, a competent man who's successful.

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So I consulted the DSM for to see what kind of like, what's the actual diagnostic criteria

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for a narcissistic personality disorder, just to get a sense of how a doctor might be evaluating

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Alex.

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They got rid of words.

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They just put it in a picture of Alex there.

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I got to say he hits a lot of these boxes.

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Just that clip right there.

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And he, and he's get rid of the goldwater rule on that clip.

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Just listen to that and be like, Oh yeah, that dude, yep, yep, yep.

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The doctor who's a conspiracy against me and he was, he's crazy and he was fucking with

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me.

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So here, here are the criteria has a grandiose sense of self-importance check is preoccupied

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with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love idea believes

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that he is a, he or she is special or unique and can only be understood by or associate

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with other special or high status.

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People check requires excessive admiration check has a sense of entitlement check is

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interpersonally exploitative check lacks empathy check is often envious of others or believes

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that others are envious of him or her shows arrogant haughty behaviors or attitudes check.

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That's all of that's all of this.

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Do you, are there any secret ones not on there?

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Well in the 2011, the PSM five refined some of the criteria for MPD and it honestly sounds

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even more like Alex.

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One of the defining features is quote impairments in self functioning, which can be described

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as quote emotional regulation, mirroring self-esteem.

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That sounds a lot like his broadcast.

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That does sound like that.

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Another hallmark is a grandiosity mixed with quote excessive attempts to attract or be

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the focus of the attention of others.

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I don't understand that.

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I'm no doctor, so I can't diagnose anyone with shit, but if you look at the criteria

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for an MPD diagnosis, it becomes pretty easy to see why someone might think that pretty

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well describes Alex.

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I mean, just, just the, I imagine that he had that diagnosis after the first question.

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He was just like, Hey, how are you doing today?

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I'm doing great.

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How are you doing today?

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You're the one who should be in here.

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We should switch seats.

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I'm the one who's the doctor here.

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I've always been a doctor.

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I was born a doctor.

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You're lying to me.

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You've been trying to kill my family.

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I'm getting divorced.

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So Alex descends pretty hard into this defensive.

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Yeah, I would say so.

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By the way, in their own narrow definition of a narcissist, narcissists don't care about

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people.

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They don't give tips and when they're under pressure, that's not in the PSM.

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But again, it's, it's their little cult term, their little thing.

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And then we sit there and our whole lives are run by these guilds and we bow down to

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the lawyers and the doctors and the psychologist and all they are is grasping people on average,

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wanting power when the real power is growing crops, taking care of your children, standing

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up for yourself for a fight.

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But if somebody wants one, you can get it.

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You want to get your head knocked in.

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You will.

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I'm not looking for violence, but I'm not afraid to feel it out.

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And when I do, I'm going to knock your head off.

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Okay.

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So that's cool.

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I mean, there's nothing other to say than it's just like, okay man, we get why you got

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a diagnosis because you're exhibiting a lot of these behaviors that would be indicative.

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See, it seems like the easiest way to find out if somebody is a narcissist is to just

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be like, Hey, you're a narcissist.

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And then their response.

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Like if you told me I was a narcissist, I'd be like, Oh shit, I've been acting like an

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asshole.

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Haven't I?

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I don't like said it to Alex.

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He'd be like, you're a narcissist.

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I've been there.

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I will kill everybody.

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I don't like that line because like, uh, because I'm a Taurus number of times in my life, I've

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had people be like, Oh, Tauruses are stubborn.

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Yeah.

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And that puts you in a box because you could either say yes I am.

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Or you can say no.

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And it proves that you are, there are some sort of things that like, it doesn't work

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universally.

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No, no, no.

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Of course.

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But I understand what you're saying in terms of Alex.

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He certainly, it is.

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It is not a blanket statement.

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It is Alex centric.

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So in this next clip, Alex is not plugging his water filters, although he is, well, they

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made the best gravity fed filter out there compared to competitors that are 500 bucks.

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And I love propure.

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They're as good in some tests, not in others.

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It's apples and oranges.

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We just go out and say, well, it's the top rated gravity fed filter.

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And the crazy thing is usually whatever the best is, isn't the most expensive.

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That's what you find about.

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Like it's crazy.

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You'll see some really expensive, fancy thing with all this marketing and it doesn't cut

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out stuff like these two and I'm not even plugging that right now.

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It's 30% off the price they're selling these I'm making like 30 bucks.

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So we got to sell a lot of these, but that's going on about a million.

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Apparently if you have 25 million coming in a year, you got to say you only making 30

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on each water filter.

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It's amazing how the best gravity filters are also the ones that give me the best profit

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margin.

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It is wild.

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It's not the most expensive one.

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I'm not plugging, but also the 30% off right now.

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I'm not plugging it.

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When Alex comes back from his break, a commercial break, and this made me laugh so hard.

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All right, we're going to go to your phone calls right now.

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And then I've got a piece of news that is so gigantor.

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I'm sure I'll screw it up and mess it up.

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I mean, yes.

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Well, that is an amazing amount of insight.

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That is.

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I got a big old story.

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I'm gonna fuck it up.

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I'm gonna fuck this up.

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Can you imagine Brian Stelter coming on his TV show and be like, oh guys, holy shit.

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You do not even know the story of the news out of the Senate.

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So big.

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I'm going to botch this entire thing.

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Big news out of the Senate.

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Senator Strom Thurmond.

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God damn it.

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He's dead.

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I already fucked it up.

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Brian Stelter here on reliable sources.

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I can only be trusted with small stories.

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Big stories.

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I will fuck it up.

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Oh boy.

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So Alex doesn't get to his story right away because he's got to talk about how long it

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took him to get into work.

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Of course.

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I feel like sometimes like going on public is scary or sketchy because they're all looking

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for leadership.

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Look, when I drive down the road, my neighborhood, it took me 40 minutes to get to work today

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because I just drove to the neighborhood and stopped at each family and said, I'm glad

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you're outside.

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The virus overall is a hoax that has less than 1% death rate.

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It's about mark the America we've known and loved.

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Missed the break there.

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Um, I don't believe he did that.

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I don't care.

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Anyway, we're all whispering about him at the same time too though.

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So when Alex said that he has this big news, he's sure he's going to fuck up.

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He tells his staff that he wants that sort of like Fox breaking news to play.

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And so when he went out to break there, he had said that he was going to get to this

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big news in the next segment.

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So when he comes back, he can't do it because they didn't play music quickly here.

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And then I've got the huge news I'm going to hit, um, start of the next segment.

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We'll do that Fox intro.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Next segment.

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Cause I want to do that.

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We're gonna do it.

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This one, we didn't.

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She's okay.

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Okay.

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So this isn't the big news.

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Okay.

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Cause earlier when I told you that Alex, Alex had said that his people are sending in Intel

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about Bill Gates.

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This is the only example of something that could have been what he was talking about.

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And it's stupid.

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Let's play a clip from 2008 where they're talking about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's

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real name and how it's the human depopulation operation here.

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Here's that clip

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In 1997, Dr. Zabin got a call from a friend in Seattle about a potential funding source

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for an organization that would focus on international population and reproductive health.

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Bill and Melinda Gates, with just a little money to spend, but a lot of skepticism about

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the academic approach, agreed to meet with Laurie Zabin and her colleagues at Johns Hopkins

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and they came away impressed.

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In 1998, Dr. Zabin became the founding director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for

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Population Control.

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Bill and Melinda Gates run World Wide Depopulation and they admit it.

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So that speaker, she's giving an intro to another speaker and the explanation here is

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that she misspoke.

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The Gates group is a, it's not called the Institute for Population Control.

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It's the Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.

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This has become a bit of a stupid conspiracy online, all based on that little clip, apparently

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initially publicized by Adam Curry, who sucks.

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The most obvious explanation is that the speaker misspoke, but apparently that's just what

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Sheeple would say.

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The internet sleuths have been trying to find evidence that the name of the Gates group

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is, you know, it was originally called the population control, Institute for Population

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Control, but literally all evidence except that clip says that it's the Institute for

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Population and Reproductive Health.

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In order to make sense of this lack of evidence, the new claim is that the Gates people have

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completely scrubbed the internet of any proof that their group was originally called the

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Institute for Population Control.

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But they couldn't scrub that video.

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The complete lack of evidence that the claim they're making is true is only evidence of

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a complete cover-up of the evidence that would prove their claim to be true.

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That's very convenient.

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This is why there's really no hope against this current type of conspiracy thinking.

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It's just too resilient.

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There's a conclusion that they want to arrive at, and any suggestion of supporting evidence

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or even the mysterious absence of supporting evidence, that's good enough to be considered

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proof.

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I'm just not sure there's any way to work with that level of disconnection from reality

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outside of one-on-one therapy.

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Like I'm not convinced that education would penetrate that.

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No, there's nothing that can penetrate that.

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It seems tough.

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That is what it is.

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Yeah, so that video is the smoking gun, and even if they were called the Institute for

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Population Control, that doesn't indicate depopulation.

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Even if that were true, it doesn't match what Alex is saying.

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And that's not the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

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That's just something that they funded at Johns Hopkins.

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Anyway, it's all bullshit.

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So Alex comes back from break again, and this time they got the music right.

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But it's also not what you'd expect.

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I thought they were going to play some breaking news Fox music.

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It's the law and order, dun dun.

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I wish.

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Well, this news really deserves some fanfare.

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It's very sad news, but exposing this could bring down the globalism.

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All right, you know, fanfare, but our air raid sirens, enemy bombers coming in to drop

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bombs on you.

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And that really matters.

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That's a mismatch.

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That is, that is somebody, that is them being like, we couldn't find the clip.

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And also, I don't think we have the copyright rights.

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I don't think we can do that.

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And he's like, well, we can't just do the sirens again, do something, put something

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else in there.

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Yeah.

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So you're ready for the big news?

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Yeah.

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Let's hear it.

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The 21st century, you don't send in bombers to bomb people.

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You send in testing kits and oh, it's an accident.

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Indiana has, they just so happened to have the testing kits right in the same room with

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the virus.

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And they just so happened to accidentally put it on the needles that went in your arms

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and give it to you.

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And they also wiped their shoes with a mask and shipped them over.

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And the governor of California, the governor of New York ordered you to wear the used mask.

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Because we're not in run down Chinese cities where they have open sewers, all the rest

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of it, where the government doesn't care about the people and the people have given up.

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So there's the Ars Technica story.

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This is in Bloomberg as well.

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CDC's failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirm.

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So I will say that it's true that there is a story in Ars Technica with the headline,

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quote, CDC's failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirm.

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However, there are some important caveats to make here.

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First is that this article is four days old by the time Alex is on air doing his air raid

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siren bullshit.

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So it's not exactly stop the presses level news.

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Big news.

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The second and much more important point is that Alex absolutely has not read this article

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because what he's saying has literally nothing to do with the content of it.

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Like this is basically Moonraker book versus movie territory.

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He's saying that the Chinese sent these tainted tests and there was an intentional attack.

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However, this article has no relation to anything China did.

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It's entirely about protocols not being followed within the CDC and their development of a

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coronavirus test.

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This was our government being sloppy, not the Chinese attacking us.

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From the article, quote, now, according to investigation results reported by the New

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York Times, federal officials confirm that sloppy laboratory practices at two of three

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CDC labs involved in the tests creation led to contamination of the tests and their uninterpretable

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results.

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There's no indication in this article that the contamination led to anyone being infected.

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Just that the results that were gathered from the tests were inconclusive and unusable.

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If you want to use this story and shine some light on the need for better practices and

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controls within the CDC, by all means, go ahead.

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However, what Alex is doing is completely fabricating a story about China putting coronavirus

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on test needles and sending them here to infect people, which is essentially accusing the

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sovereign state of a crime that requires a declaration of war.

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He's playing with fire and he's all just making it up because he's either unwilling or unable

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to read anything past a headline.

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It's very disgraceful.

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You should have to at least have the word China in the article to make that ball the

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lie about it, you know, just at least even if in the article, it's just like we it's

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not from China.

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Even then, at least China would be involved in the article instead of it being purely

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the CDC made some tests and they were contaminated as a self-contained story.

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That's brutal.

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That's really bad.

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It's very unfortunate.

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That's really bad.

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But Alex is just lying about it.

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So this is our last clip and what ends up happening here is Alex is saying that Bill

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Gates is running the satanic conspiracy.

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And then Alex has a little flight of fancy that I think might be blasphemous.

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OK.

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They'll probably release any more deadly bow up and soon.

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I mean, we're in bad shape, folks.

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They've made their move.

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They dropped the hammer.

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And that man heads up the most satanic power force on Earth.

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So he's coming with a needle for you and your family.

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What are you going to do?

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All right.

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Here he comes.

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He says he wants to kill you publicly and he wants to put something in your body because

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he loves you.

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See the meta.

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They go, why does he say he wants to depopulate us?

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But then he says he wants to save us.

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They have to metaphysically put the notice somewhere.

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It's a legal thing.

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It's a legal thing.

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He has to put the notice there.

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Is it a martial law thing?

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And then once the notice is there, then he can do whatever he wants.

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The city council has two weeks to hold hearings about the.

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But God goes, you know, my children just don't have free will.

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You got to warn them.

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You got to tell them.

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You know, Satan goes up and has audiences with God says, I, I want to do this and I

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think, no, no, no.

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You have to trick them to do all these bad things and denounce me.

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They have to beg for you to destroy them first.

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Satan goes, OK, I'll treat them to hate themselves, try to hate America, try to hate their children.

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Oh, OK, well, then you can do it.

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I think that this is maybe maybe Alex just watched Lost.

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There's some sort of connection with Jacob and the man in blacks relationship that he's

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describing here with God and the devil.

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I don't know, man, that that seems like a shitty God to worship.

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The God who's hanging out with the devil and the devil's like, hey, can I kill him?

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And the God's like, no, can I trick him into killing each other?

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Well, yeah, of course you can, buddy.

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Go for it.

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Well, I mean, like God did say the devil couldn't touch Job in Job.

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So I think that's kind of what Alex is like riffing off.

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Right.

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Right.

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Was it interpreted as the devil or was it just say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm not.

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Who gives a shit?

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It's the devil.

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While who cares.

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Right.

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But yeah, I mean, look, I mean, if God knows just how tricky the devil is and he's like,

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by all means, you can't hurt them, but you're really good at tricking people.

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So why don't you trick them?

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Come on, buddy.

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Come on.

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Seems reckless.

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You got to think after criticizing Lady Gaga's not God that he created for being a shitty

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God to then give us a shittier God.

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I understand.

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Wild.

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I understand the idea of free will.

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And you have to choose, like if some other person is trying to trick you.

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Sure.

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But if it's a supernatural being, it's kind of not on you.

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It's not on you.

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Seems unfair.

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It's not on you.

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I don't get why people get blamed for shit that Loki tricked them into doing.

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It's not your fault.

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I don't know.

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You're fighting against a God.

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You lose.

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Anyway, the point here is that Alex is in bad shape.

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Yeah.

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Alex is in bad shape.

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And I think, like, I don't know, like, obviously there is a piece of this that could be overly

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dramatic Alex, but I don't know if I've ever heard him talking about, like, I'm recording

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my last episode and then breaking down in this way where he's discussing his career

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in hindsight.

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Like, I don't know, man.

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I feel like we're like really coming up to it.

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Yeah.

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I could look stupid in hindsight.

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Sure.

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I admit that fully.

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Right.

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But the way this feels, it does not feel like someone who's just trying to fuck around.

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Right.

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It legit feels like someone who's trying to end his show.

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Well, what it feels like to me is somebody whose emotional regulation is tied directly

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to their sense of self-esteem.

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That's what it feels like to me.

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I don't think he's feeling good right now about his self-esteem.

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True.

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And I think that's bleeding into other things.

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That's my, that's my personal opinion.

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I'm not a doctor, Dan.

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No.

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I don't even pretend to be an osteopath.

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No.

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Which I could, I think.

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No.

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The osteopaths do require education.

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Not like some of these other ding dongs.

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Yeah.

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Look, dude, I don't know.

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I think my feeling is we have a really interesting next week ahead of us.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We'll see.

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I am not looking forward.

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Actually, you know what?

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I fucking am.

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Yeah.

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If Alex does do his last show.

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It's going to be great.

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I know.

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God, when he goes over his record, that's going to be your fucking Super Bowl.

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Yeah.

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Every claim that he makes about what he did, you're going to have receipts on it.

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Like I think that the opportunity to legend kill is really exciting.

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And so if he wants to lay bare what his final message is, like, I can't imagine something

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more exciting than deconstructing that.

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So hopefully he does do that, but I have a sense that it'll be underwhelming, but we'll

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see.

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We'll see what happens next week.

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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.

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We do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Oh, wait.

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It'll be this week.

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Yeah.

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Because it's Monday.

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Today is Monday.

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Yeah.

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Don't worry about it.

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They're all gone.

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Yeah.

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It's knowledgefight.com is our website.

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And if you want to learn more about seltzers, it's knowledgefight.com.

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Slash seltzers.

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We're also on Twitter.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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In some cases, I would love to at least give myY as a shout out.

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All right.

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Cut.