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Hello, Alex, I'm a big fan of your fan.
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I love your room!
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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What's your bright spot for this week?
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You go first.
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I go first?
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Yes.
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Because I have a rant.
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Oh.
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I assume this has nothing to do with WrestleMania, so I will say that my bright spot is we were
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on this week's episode of Opening Arguments.
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Yeah.
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That was great.
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It was a ton of fun.
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Andrew and Thomas over there, I appreciate them having us on.
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A lot less legal conversation than I expected for a legal podcast, but there's not a ton
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of legal questions I have about Alex, because a lot of it is just sort of blanketly like,
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yeah, you can get away with saying a ton of shit.
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Yeah.
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It seems like my main conclusion from being on a law podcast was everything Alex does
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should be against the law, and yet somehow it's not, so there's no point in talking about
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it, I guess.
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Yeah.
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But super fun, and thanks to them again for having us.
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Absolutely.
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It was great.
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Check that out if you have not heard it.
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My bright spot is night two of WrestleMania from Sunday.
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There we go.
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I was shocked.
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Holy shit.
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I'm shocked.
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I am shocked.
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Cheers and cheers.
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Yeah.
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Let's do a whole segment.
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Cheers.
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Yes.
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To the Randy Orton and Edge Last Man Standing match.
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Okay.
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They built up a great feud between the two of them.
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It was really engaging as a storyline, but that match went on 40 minutes.
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It went on 40 minutes?
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It was too long.
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40 minutes.
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I got very bored.
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Wow.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Last Man Standing matches are very difficult, because what you have to do is you have to
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beat up the other person to the point where they can't stand up within 10 seconds.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And so there's always the tension of getting to eight seconds and struggling to get to
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your feet.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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That just draws... It's such a fucking stretch.
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Classic Mike Tyson punch out rules.
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It's very frustrating, but all of that was banished from my mind after the John Cena
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and Bray Wyatt Firefly Fun House match.
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I have heard.
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Which was the best.
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We were talking after the show one night, and you were like, when I'm looking, the Fiend
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has a habit of pulling out people's old past characters and bringing them to the fore,
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and then I read the next day about Dr. Thuganomics, and I'm like, okay, well, Dan knows what's
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up.
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He seems to have an ability over time and space, to an extent.
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Somewhat unspoken, if I understand correctly?
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Sort of.
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He also has a character, Bray Wyatt, is possessed by this demon called the Fiend that has superpowers
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of some sort.
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Naturally, this is the thing that's normal to say.
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And he's able to manipulate people's, like their psychology or something, and show them
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something of themselves that maybe they didn't want to accept.
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He's the ghost of Christmas past.
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It's just... It was masterful, the short film that they put together, because it wasn't
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a match, it wasn't John Cena fighting Bray Wyatt as the Fiend.
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What it was was basically a short film where the audience was taken inside the mind of
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John Cena.
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John Cena, the biggest WWE wrestling superstar from the last 15 years, the hero of the children,
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the top guy in the business, 16 time world champion, taken inside his mind and thoroughly
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deconstructed to the point where he accepts he's the bad guy.
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It was remarkable.
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This isn't so... What, did Marcel Duchamp direct this?
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Might as well have been.
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This isn't Chia D'Andlelou?
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What is going on?
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It was astounding.
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First of all, the complexity and the story that it told was something I did not imagine
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the WWE was capable of.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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And two, the fact that John Cena would allow that, given how big of a person he is and
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how much he doesn't need to do something like this, he's a movie star, he's in movies.
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He doesn't need to allow Bray Wyatt to put him into a psychological prison and deconstruct
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his ego.
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It's awesome.
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No, he's auditioning for Shutter Island 2.
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That's the one that's course AZ's going to film next, I think.
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God, it was good.
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I really... I had very scared expectations about it, because I'm an old time Bray Wyatt
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fan.
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Of course.
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As much as I am a wrestling fan, that's my kind of thing.
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Bray Wyatt's original character was a swamp hillbilly cult leader.
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I kind of liked Bray Wyatt, to be honest.
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Talking these rambling, weird riddles.
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Nonsense.
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Absolute nonsense.
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So good.
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Impenetrable.
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I always want something really to work out, and then nothing ever does.
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His story lines always kind of fizzle a little bit.
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So I had a real feeling that this was going to be another one of those things, because
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they tried to do some Bray Wyatt spooky house matches in the past that they just were a
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disaster.
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I just really thought they were going to do that again, and instead what they got was
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a scathing portrait of, first of all, John Cena's character trajectory through his career,
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to the WWE itself, to an extent, Vince McMahon, and a deeply emotional resonance.
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Because throughout it, the character of Bray Wyatt is sort of guiding John Cena through
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these realizations that he's the bad guy, and he gives him chances to recognize this
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thing about himself, and because of John's ego, he can't recognize it, which leads to
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the ultimate conclusion of John being destroyed.
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Like, it's great!
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David Lynch is working for the WWE for one night.
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Yeah.
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Oh, right.
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I love it.
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Paul Holland, drive me.
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I will claim that I'm not a huge wrestling fan, and I stand by that.
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I don't think that I am in the same way that most people like wrestling, but I think it
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has a remarkable potential as a storytelling medium, both in-ring matches and stuff like
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this, the characters that they're able to build.
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Because you suspend disbelief to the point where it's like, yeah, this guy, he's got
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a demon in him, and he can manipulate time and space.
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This goofy neon shirt-wearing fake soldier slash battle rapper guy.
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What do you guys think?
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Dick Whitman's more believable?
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Fuck off.
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I like the medium for the things like that that it is capable of, and I was very proud
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of them, and it's a very big, bright spot for me in these this week.
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Oh, that's great.
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Loved it.
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I'm glad.
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I watched it a second time.
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Really?
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Yeah, and I almost never re-watched it in wrestling.
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That's interesting.
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Yeah.
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I had to go back, and that was... I watched it a second time the next day, because I walked
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away from it feeling like that was spectacular, and I second-guessed myself, and I watched
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it back.
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I was like, no, that was as good as I thought it was.
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All right.
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Excellent.
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Fantastic.
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To be clear, I don't want them to do a lot more of it.
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No, absolutely not.
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They would probably fuck it up.
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Yeah, no.
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They knocked it out of the ballpark.
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Yes.
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If you were the Undertaker match and your feelings on that, I would-
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That might not have been as bad as I thought it was, but it was corny as hell.
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This was corny in some ways, but with what I perceive to be a lot more depth to it.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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It's the difference between, do you want a goofy 80s thriller action movie or horror
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movie, or do you want some tense psychological thriller that also gets a little cornball
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every now and again?
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That's kind of the difference, and that's just more my taste.
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You can't go wrong with Dickens unless you're talking about Oliver Twist, in which case,
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yeah, you can.
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You can get some weird Jungian nonsense going on in your wrestling.
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It's great.
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Before we get into today's episode, where we're going over April 5th, 2020, baby, we
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are going to take a little moment here to say thank you to some folks who have signed
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up and are supporting the show.
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First, Galakfire, G-A-L-A-K-F-Y-R-R, thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Galakfire.
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Thank you so much.
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Next, Emperor Chex the Flatulent, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Emperor Chex the Flatulent.
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Next, Sarah FM, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Sarah FM.
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Probably married to Jack.
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Next, Xavier, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Xavier.
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Thanks, Xavier.
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Next, Luke, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Luke.
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Next, Alex Jones, Erotic Fan-Fiction Society, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much Alex Jones Erotic Fanfiction Society.
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And then finally, I'd like to say thank you
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to a couple people who donated on elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So first of all, Chris, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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And Charles, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie
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on this Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Chris.
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And thank you so much, Charles.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Does that mean Charles is an honorary member
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of the conspiracy of Chris's?
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No, no, that's only for Chris's.
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That's only for Chris's?
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Very specifically.
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All right.
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So if you're out there listening and you're thinking,
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hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents,
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too, you can do that by going to our website,
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knowledgefate.com, clicking the button that says
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support the show, we'd appreciate it.
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Or you could find a local charity in your area
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to help out with folks who need some help.
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Yes, we would like both.
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So both, Jordan?
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One or the other.
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All right.
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So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're
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going over the April 5 episode of Alex's show.
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And here's the thing.
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Like, I wanted to do a Wacky Wednesday thing.
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But Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot,
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sorry, Carrie has not been bringing it.
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And so I couldn't find anything there.
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I just didn't, I wasn't finding a lot of inspiration
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in some of the places that we might look
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for a Wacky Wednesday episode.
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And things got kind of weird with Alex, too.
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Because he put out a Saturday episode of his show
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that was just long and boring and awful.
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So I wasted a lot of time listening to that.
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Friday's episode was no good.
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And then Monday, he was out of a studio.
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He wasn't in studio on the 6th, because he was in family court.
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Oh, shit.
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He was having to deal with some motions
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that his ex-wife had filed because of his DUI.
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Entirely reasonable motions that his ex-wife filed, yeah.
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So he was out of studio.
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So that leaves us really only with April 5th, the Sunday
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show.
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And so I was like, well, we should check in on this.
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So I listened to it.
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And I actually think this is a pretty important thing
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to cover, because there's some really stupid, fun things here.
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But also, there is a development of some narrative
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that I think will probably be a problem in the future.
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Cool.
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So we start off with Alex in a pretty doomy kind of feel.
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That's fair.
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We are live, ladies and gentlemen,
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on this April 5th Sunday transmission.
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We're 211 days out.
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And more and more, it looks like the election will be canceled.
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Because the psy-op of psy-ops has been launched.
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It's now official.
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The United Nations has released guidelines
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written by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
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that no one will be allowed to leave their homes
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or go back to work under the new worldwide martial law
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until you've been forcibly inoculated.
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OK.
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So I did not find any evidence of any of that stuff.
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But that's the headspace Alex is in.
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So that should tell you a little something.
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So on some recent episodes, we've
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seen a trend sort of coming into existence that is,
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whereas Alex was comparing the coronavirus
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to the flu in the past, he started
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to really get more interested in talking about it as a cold.
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And I think part of that is because maybe someone told him
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that coronavirus is, in the family of coronavirus,
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can cause the common cold.
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And I think that he's like, you know what?
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People are way less afraid of the cold than they are of flu.
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So let's go ahead and just run with that.
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Let's really downplay it and try and get as many people
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hurt as we can.
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Yeah, so now that is evolving.
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And he's starting to suggest that people
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who are testing positive for coronavirus, COVID-19,
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they actually are false positives because they
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have the cold.
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While we get into all this, I'm not joking around.
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Coronavirus, UK says 3.5 million antibody tests coming in days.
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And then you learn you've had the common cold in your life.
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Well, we've all had it.
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So see, everyone they're testing,
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and I've got medical doctors coming on the show about this.
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Everyone they're testing who dies, cancer, or lung problems,
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or other diseases, or they're old,
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they have a heart attack.
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They're telling them you died of COVID-19
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to create more hysteria.
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So I understand Alex's desperation
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to come up with a conspiracy here.
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But what he's suggesting does not make sense,
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partially because it's just scientifically dumb,
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but more importantly because he seems
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to be ignoring a very relevant statistic.
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It's probably safe to say that literally everyone
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on the planet has gotten the cold.
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Most people catch colds at least once a year, sometimes
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a couple of times in a year.
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If it were the case that the coronavirus tests were just
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creating false positives for people who had had the cold,
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you'd expect that you wouldn't see so many of them
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come back negative.
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How does Alex explain that there have
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been almost 2 million tests done in the US,
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and only a little over 370,000 of them have been positive?
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If it were really just catching the common cold,
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that number would be much higher.
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In order for Alex to credibly even suggest this conspiracy,
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I'm going to need for him to deal
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with that gigantic problem in the theory,
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which he won't do because he's just pulling things
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out of his ass.
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I doubt it.
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Yeah, so it's just false positives from the cold, man.
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This is also one of the situations
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where there's a deserved media blackout over.
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You can't show anything that's going on,
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but people are being intubated.
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People are coughing up blood.
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This is how people are dying.
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Their lungs are fucking exploding.
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That is not the goddamn common cold by no stretch.
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And if there was a more general knowledge of like,
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this is how people are dying, it would be real hard
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to sell the common cold narrative.
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It should be hard to sell it anyways.
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I would assume so, but it's easy for Alex
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because he just says words.
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That does make it easier.
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So he has now established this narrative
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that there's a lot of false positives, just people
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who have the cold.
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And he gets into predicting a future
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where anybody who dies, they'll say it's coronavirus.
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And also in the future, they're going to say,
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anybody that's ever had the common cold,
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oh, you're a COVID-19 too.
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But then they're going to say, well, to make sure
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they're already doing this, we got a vaccine.
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They're making you beg for it first.
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Bill Mooney Gates already patented it a few years ago.
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They've already got it ready.
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Seriously, look it up.
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They're going to roll it out and say,
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you've got to have this shot
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and you've got to have the antibodies
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or you can't work or leave your house.
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And it's all being announced.
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So one thing that's really fun about this narrative,
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this thing of the vaccine already existing,
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is that it started when Alex began covering
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the internet conspiracy about the Peerbright Institute,
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which held a patent for this vaccine for chickens,
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which was completely misrepresented
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just because it involved a coronavirus
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that affects chickens.
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But it's a coronavirus that's for chickens.
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Hey, don't worry about it.
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This is fun because that conspiracy before Alex
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picked up on it, it all traces directly back
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to Jordan Sather, who's a big QAnon guy.
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Alex is in the middle of this supposed war against QAnon,
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but he can't even recognize or accept
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that a bunch of his information and narratives
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come directly from the very people
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he's attacking as idiots.
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So I was watching Alex's show from Saturday,
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like I mentioned, and he had Francis Boyle on the show
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where they discussed this Gates patent situation.
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In that segment, they addressed the fact
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that the Peerbright patent is for chickens,
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but then they claim that there are other patents.
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Oh, okay, well that helps.
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Which Alex then flashes up on screen.
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Sure.
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You can Google them.
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I'll give you the patent numbers.
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Okay.
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One of them is U.S. patent 10130701B2.
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This is for the Peerbright Institute,
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and it relates to the coronavirus.
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Alex just shows the first page on screen, which is good,
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because it says that coronavirus Peerbright Institute.
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That's the trick.
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But if he scrolled to page four,
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he would see a graph there
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that's about the incidence of snicking,
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which is a thing that chickens do.
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The second graph is for wheezing,
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which I guess humans do too.
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However, the y-axis of that graph is, quote,
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percentage of birds affected.
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This is just the chicken vaccine again.
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Okay, so look, all right,
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you're telling me that no people snick?
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I think people snick all the time.
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That's just a thing that normal people do.
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As I understand, it's a beak-related issue.
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Well, who doesn't have a giant beak?
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This guy, who has two thumbs and no beak.
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This guy.
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So the other one, that one's a bust.
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That's no good.
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Is that one a bust?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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The only other patent Alex shows on air
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is a filing from the European Patent Office,
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number 15750093.5,
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which again is just the Peerbright's chicken vaccine.
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Alex has nothing,
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but I will grant that he has a whole lot of nothing.
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Yeah.
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That is true.
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He tripled his nothing.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And all of it traces back to a QAnon promoter
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that he's ripping off, that he's mad at and hates.
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It is hard to focus on the stakes here,
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which is that he is killing people.
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It is very difficult because this is so awful.
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Yeah.
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So also like with this,
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this is all just derived from Jordan Sather stuff,
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who's a huge QAnon guy.
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And as we're putting out this episode here on Wednesday,
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like this is the day,
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today is the day that Alex is supposed to unmask QAnon.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Did he do it?
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Well, I don't know.
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We're recording this on Tuesday.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So I don't know what Alex is going to bring
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to the table on Wednesday.
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Probably in studio surgery.
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Cutting that microchip out.
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That's my guess.
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I'm hoping.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gets down to talking about how the Gates folks,
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cause they already have this vaccine.
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Sure.
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For chickens.
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Well, sure.
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Yeah.
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But they're also doing this tattoo thing,
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the tattoo that'll give you your virus records.
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Right, right, right.
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The implantable chip stuff.
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And apparently the source on this, it goes back a ways.
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Alex has known about this for a long time.
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I'm sure.
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When David Knight broke a month ago,
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COVID-19 tracking bracelets and a bill of Melinda Gates,
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MIT planned to put a digital tattoo
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that takes five minutes for a needle
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to stitch nanotech chips into you
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that can't be seen with the naked eye,
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but under a black light
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that have your medical records on them that they scan on.
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You can't cut it out because it's now in your flesh,
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a digital DNA mark.
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I remember I knew a preacher in Austin 25 years ago,
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who was putting on Patriot events.
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Oh, boy.
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And I went to dinner with him.
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Christian identity.
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Yeah.
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And he said, you know, you gave that speech
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at the church event about the microchip.
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He goes, listen, God gave me a vision.
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It's going to be a DNA tattoo on the left arm.
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And I was like, okay.
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But, you know, back then I was a Christian,
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but I was like, I look back on the stuff that guy said
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and it all came true.
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I don't know where that fella is.
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He like moved to another state.
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But regardless, it's here, ladies and gentlemen.
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That guy is hanging out with that friend of yours
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in high school's girlfriend in another state.
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Weird Christian identity preacher
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that Alex believes had visions.
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Hey, he's not seeing up in heaven now, Dan.
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Also this thing that Alex is saying that David Knight broke,
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he didn't break anything.
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He broke it.
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He's reporting on another article in some publication
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about this research that was being done.
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Right.
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They don't have the technology to do these tattoos yet.
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They don't have the technology for Alex to break a story.
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No, certainly not.
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David Knight doesn't have that brain tech.
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So Alex gets into just lying about primary sources,
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about stuff.
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He starts kind of slow.
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It picks up and at the end of this,
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this is so irresponsible,
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but it starts off a little bit slow.
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Before he died in 62, he wrote the book,
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Brave New World Revisited.
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Talk about Aldous.
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Aldous is dying.
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And Huxley went to Berkeley and gave a speech.
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I've got thousands of articles to cover here, folks,
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literally, but I'm just going back to this
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because this is everything.
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I remember this one.
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And he said, my book published in 32 is not science fiction.
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Didn't say that.
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It is a futurist projection of the world
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we want to build by 2020.
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Didn't say that.
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Sounds like something a crazy person would say.
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And his contemporaries talked about diet injections
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and injunctions controlling you
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and making you dumb and stupid.
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So all these vaccines are Trojan horse piggybacked
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with sterilants and with systems that lower IQ.
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So none of that is accurate
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from the Brave New World Revisited.
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Like I said, as I say, whenever this comes up,
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I highly recommend people go listen to that speech.
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He's very charming as a speaker.
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He's great.
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And you can get a little bit more context
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of what Aldous Huxley was actually saying in that speech.
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It was mostly about the comparison between himself
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and Orwell, the 1984 system
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versus the Brave New World system,
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which would be the more likely version
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that this could rise up in.
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That's kind of more what he was getting at.
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He wasn't saying, this is our plan.
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This is what we've been doing.
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Ha ha, suck it.
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Absolutely not.
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But the other part there, he's contemporary.
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He's talking about Bertrand Russell
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and the diets, injections, and injunctions line
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is something that Alex just takes out of context.
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We've talked about this a bunch.
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Bertrand Russell was talking about what would have happened
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if the Nazis had won World War II
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and had become a scientifically run system.
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And he's saying that were that to be the case,
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had the Nazis won, which is a bad thing,
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he didn't want to happen,
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and they became a scientifically run system,
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diets, injections, and injunctions
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would control the population.
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This is not them saying, ha ha,
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this is what we're doing, suck it.
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Alex can read just anything about hypothetical situations
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or analyses of things and be like,
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ha ha, this is what everyone's doing.
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It's very weird.
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I mean, it's selective, obviously.
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He doesn't do this with other things
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that work against his narratives.
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Yeah.
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Also, Bertrand Russell was wrong anyways
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because, as we all know,
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the Nazis won World War II in 2016.
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That's pretty much how it went down, right?
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World War II ended, but then there was a re-emergence.
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Yeah, the Nazis had a great comeback.
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It was bottom of the ninth,
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about to get a woman president,
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and then they swung for the fences.
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So, speaking of pretty shocking comebacks.
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Yeah.
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Nicely done.
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Alex has been really against the globalists
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and their extermination plan.
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Yes.
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But on our last episode,
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we heard him sort of coming around.
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Right.
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Well, it's not a bad idea.
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It's just they're the ones doing it.
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Yeah, it seems like that wasn't a one-off.
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Yeah.
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It seems like Alex is really starting to feel like,
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well, maybe people should be exterminated.
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I don't fucking know.
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Straight up.
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You don't think Bill and Melinda Gates
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run all these TV shows attacking me by name
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that they finance because I'm just up here
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saying stuff isn't true.
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Now, I'll tell you, the public is pretty dumbed down
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and is pretty lazy and doesn't care
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they're doing this show.
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Gates's argument is you deserve to die.
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Maybe Bill Gates is right.
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I'm not going to join him because I'm God-fearing person,
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but I get it.
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Okay.
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I would say that if you're a God-fearing person,
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I don't know why Alex thinks that like
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extermination of the population is warranted
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because people are lazy and dumb.
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Maybe they should be.
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Huh?
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That's not a good reason to exterminate a population.
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Hey, come on.
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We got Sodom and Gomorrah,
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we got all those folks that God killed
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so Noah could be fine,
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and you know, God exterminated people all the time.
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A God-fearing man is probably pro-extermination,
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let's be honest.
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It seems like a misunderstanding
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of some of the finer points.
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Maybe.
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At least as I understand God's message
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through Christianity.
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You know, people think that the New Testament
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is a book you should read,
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and I just disagree entirely.
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I think that it is ludicrous
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and also very fun slash scary
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that Alex is now coming around to this like,
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fuck it, the globalists should exterminate everybody.
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Because what that entails or what that portends
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is like him being way more fine with mass death.
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Yeah.
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Should like, I don't know,
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Trump do something fucked up.
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Absolutely.
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As long as it's couched in the sort of framing
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of fighting the globalists or whatever.
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It really is.
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Why should I?
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Why should I sit here and protect the sheep?
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Why should I?
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I'm not gonna do it.
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Let the globalists kill them all.
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I don't give a shit.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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No one's buying X3.
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Fuck it.
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I don't give a shit.
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I can't say that there aren't dark moments
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that I've had looking at Biden's poll numbers
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going like, you know what?
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Fuck it.
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I got nothing for you.
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You guys wanna do it?
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You do it.
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I'm not saying nothing.
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But that's not a way to live your life, Dan.
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There's a difference between the sort of moments
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of despair you might have of like,
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we are not going to make progress.
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Yeah.
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Those are tough moments of reflection,
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much like me before WrestleMania Night Two.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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And then the darkness comes right before the dawn, Dan.
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Well, maybe not.
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But there's a difference between that
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and being like, for long times I have prophesied
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that my enemies would exterminate everyone
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and I've dedicated my life to fighting against that.
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But I don't have, fuck it, maybe they're right.
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There is a difference, Dan.
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There is a difference.
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That's an invalidation of Alex's pretend everything.
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Ah, fuck it.
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Maybe Bill Gates is right.
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You all should fucking die.
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I don't care.
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Yeah, that's Obama voting for Trump.
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If Bernie is the nominee, we'll see what happens.
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Well, so we have, in this next clip,
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Alex has had famous people call him.
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Sure.
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And they're like, hey man, you're right.
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Ted Nugent's wife?
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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I got a couple calls today by super famous people
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and I'm not bragging.
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I'm saying.
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Sounds like a brag.
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Super famous people.
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I mean, just you name it.
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Rock stars, movie stars, huge national talk show host
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going, well, I thought you were wrong,
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but you really are right.
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And I'm like, okay, great, we'll do something about it.
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Oh, I'm afraid to.
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Sounds like a brag.
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So it means nothing to me until those people do something.
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And I told them, I said to one of them, I said,
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I don't really want to talk to you.
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Until you just come on the show.
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Right.
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Okay.
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All right, bud.
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Or until you come out and do something.
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All right, you star fucker.
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Trying to hold on to what you got
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is going to lose everything.
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America had everything because we would fight
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and we weren't pushed around.
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You look at America now on average and we're soft
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and we're lazy and we're stupid and we're evil.
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And if you'll put up with 62 million aborted babies.
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Okay.
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We'll do anything.
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So sort of even further, like saying we deserve to die,
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which isn't good.
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Yeah.
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I don't know who these rich famous super mega stars are,
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but I do love the idea.
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I do love the idea of like,
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I don't even want to fucking talk to you
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unless you'll come on my show.
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Great.
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Thanks for telling me I'm right.
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But if I can't get any PR out of this, I don't give a shit.
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This is what we find out.
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It's actually Christopher Walken finally calling back
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after all those years.
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Alex.
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Listen.
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He's just calling back.
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He doesn't want to tell Alex he's right,
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but he has another chicken recipe that he wants to share.
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I've been listening to the bells
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a little bit more recently.
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And I got to say, you're right.
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I don't even want to talk to you.
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Who do you think Alex is?
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Like, what's his version of like really famous,
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like mega star?
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I don't know.
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Maybe some country musician.
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Halfway think Clint Eastwood might have called him.
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Like Willie Nelson's drummer?
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Yeah.
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I don't know who this, I don't know who these people are.
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And I guess we probably never will, because Alex.
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Bruce Springsteen's drummer, Conan's former band leader.
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So Alex has a guest on the show.
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And it's a guy who gave a speech at CPEC, at the CPEC event.
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Of course.
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He sucks.
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Yeah.
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He is, I will say, his speech at CPEC was pretty boring.
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And it was just some bad comedy.
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And I had a real tough time with it.
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Based on this interview, he's rising the ranks
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in terms of like people I really dislike.
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That's not good.
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He has one of the most annoying speech delivery,
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like just the way he speaks.
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Very, very annoying.
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Very condescending.
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Of course.
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Why not?
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Put them all together.
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Also, why not throw in real dumb?
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We're going to Patrick Hallie, who writes for Epic Times,
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who is amazing.
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That's the best newspaper in the world.
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They're just incredible.
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Won't check it out.
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Also, another great site that Papert heads up,
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and that is nationalfile.com and the great work they're doing.
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And he's done a big story breaking down the fact
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that Fauci and others that you see up there
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on that stage every night have big money, ties to Bill Gates.
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Fauci got $100 million.
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Nope.
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And just one grant from Bill Gates.
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So I want to explain something.
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Bill Gates is running the show.
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Nope, that's a very inaccurate reading
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of philanthropy.
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So it's so weird how whenever these people are
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giving Patrick Hallie's credits, I think it's Hallie.
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H-A-W-L-E-Y.
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That's probably Hallie.
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I'm very sensitive to this because Hallie
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is a slur in Hawaii where I grew up, so I'm not entirely sure.
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I see what you're saying.
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Anyway, Patrick Hallie, Hallie, I don't know.
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Fuck, I'll say Hallie.
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Whatever.
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Whenever they give his credits, they
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seem to forget that he started Big League Politics, which
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was just a shitty right wing conspiracy
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blog that he eventually sold to a right wing
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political consultant.
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And it continues to exist as a propaganda outlet,
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in some cases for the very politicians who
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are paying those consultants who own the website.
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Hey, that is really helpful.
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And weird how that never comes up, almost like even they know
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it makes him look super bad and would
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undercut his imagined credibility.
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Sure, sure.
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People think that vertical integration is a bad idea,
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but I say when it comes to politics, you got to get it in.
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Sure.
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The Epoch Times is not one of the best newspapers out there.
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It's a rabidly conspiratorial publication
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that Alex just likes because it's ferociously
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pro-Trump and super anti-China.
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It's run by the Falun Gong religious movement.
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And according to reporting from NBC News, quote,
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former practitioners of Falun Gong
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told NBC News that believers think the world is headed
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towards a judgment day when those labeled communists
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will be sent to a kind of hell and those
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sympathetic to the spiritual community will be spared.
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Trump is viewed as a key ally in the anti-communist fight.
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Former Epoch Times employees said,
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you can kind of see how Alex would really
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be into that kind of editorial position.
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Ah, yeah.
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It's run by the Falun Gong.
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OK, so on October.
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Is there anything in the GOP that isn't a death cult?
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So on October 17, 2009, the founder
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of the Falun Gong movement spoke to the staff of the Epoch Times.
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And the message that was sent was a little messed up.
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It's very clear that the newspaper
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is an extension of an apocalyptic religious belief
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that looks forward to an ultimate clash with communism,
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particularly in the form of China.
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From the speech, quote, the editions
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of the Epoch Times and other languages
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are crucial as well, for Dafa disciples
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are the sole hope for salvation for the world's people,
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whatever corner of the earth they may inhabit.
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It wouldn't work if I, Li Hongzhi,
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who serves as the master to the disciples of Dafa,
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took on this work as well.
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It's something that you must do.
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My involvement will happen later,
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after the Fa rectifies the human world.
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Before the time of the Fa rectifying the human world,
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you must save more people and allow more of the world's
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people to remain.
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In the process of clarifying the truth,
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validating the Fa, and saving sentient beings,
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you are enabling people to survive the great catastrophe.
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And only this portion of the human race
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will be worthy of seeing during the stage of Fa's rectification
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of the human world, the true picture of the cosmos
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and all that has occurred since the world's creation.
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Only after that will I commence Fa rectification
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of the human world.
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Many things need to be done if this plane of existence
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is to be kept, for human affairs are really not so simple.
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Saving sentient beings is something
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that has to be done by you.
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And during this period, you are given this path
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so that you may establish mighty virtue
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with your righteous thoughts and actions,
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head towards consummation.
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All right, let's go write some blogs.
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Most of that speech is about how you
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need to get this in line like normal media outlets.
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All right, everybody, huddle up.
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You do all the work, and then after it's over,
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I will definitely help out.
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And that is nothing at all like a cult leader.
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How dare you say that?
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And it's also nothing at all like, hey,
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if I were really directing everything here,
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people would see what's up.
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So I'll come in later.
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You guys got to do this because it doesn't really
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look like I'm exerting my will through this publication.
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It's not ideal.
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The situation between Falun Gong and the state of China
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is far too complicated for me to unpack here.
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But please don't take anything that I'm
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saying as to be minimizing of the repression
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that China has engaged in regarding religious minorities.
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I'm not minimizing that at all.
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And just because Falun Gong runs this paper that
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is batty as fuck doesn't mean that it's
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within a reasonable response to incarcerate and oppress people.
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Sometimes everybody's bad in a story.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, the point here is that this is not a good news
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source.
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It's an anti-communist propaganda depot
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run in the service of a religious mission that
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believes it's heading towards an apocalyptic standoff
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against demonic communists.
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Oh, and also info wars basically.
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Yeah, you know, there's a lot of overlap.
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Now where they differ, Jordan, is
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that the Epoch Times has definitely
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promoted the QAnon conspiracy.
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OK, there we go.
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All right.
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That's the only one.
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OK.
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So if Alex thinks that they're the best news outlet,
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he has some questions he needs to ask himself about how
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he's at war with QAnon.
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It's almost like nothing matters, Dan.
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It's almost like there's really no difference or meaning
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to just about anything that Alex says.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Patrick Hawley also writes for them.
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Of course he does.
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Yeah, he's a hero.
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So Alex believes that Bill Gates is out to get him,
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because of course he is.
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And believe me, I know who's financing the lawsuits.
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I know who's after us.
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My god, again, Bill Gates, if you
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don't know, like The Good Doctor and all these shows
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are paid for by him, where they attack me.
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They say it's meant to attack me.
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He finances documentaries where they name me.
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And he's behind it all, because he knows I'm on his ass.
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Not behind us, buddy.
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Well, I mean, come on, dude.
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You said everybody's dumb, so they
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don't know about your eugenics, so they deserve it.
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You're the survival of the fittest.
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And your social Darwinism.
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Well then, don't we have a right to warn them?
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So again, ladies and gentlemen, look
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at the look on Bill Gates' face in this photo.
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If we can pull it up from NationalFall.com,
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that'd be great.
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Oh, look at his face.
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Look at that look on his face.
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I want more than face looks.
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Yeah.
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That is more.
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I need more than face looks.
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Yeah, or demonstrate in some way that Bill Gates is
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behind lawsuits against you.
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It was Bill Gates.
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Did he buy you sake?
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Yes, he did.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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What the fuck?
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I miss Soros.
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I miss Soros.
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Soros is still in the mix somewhere.
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He's still in the mix somewhere, but I'm not
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hearing about Soros anymore.
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Soros works with Gates.
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I'm getting too much Gates.
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Soros and Gates.
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I'm getting too much Gates.
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Gates sucks, too.
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I like Soros being the bad guy, because he actually
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seems to be a fairly good guy, whereas Gates kind of sucks.
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Soros is more relevant to the antifa narratives
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that Alex has.
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Oh, that's true, because of the contract.
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Sure, the fake contracts that Alex found on Fortune.
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The totally real contract.
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So because of that, I think that certainly antifa
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isn't getting in the mix while there's a quarantine going on,
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because they really only appear whenever
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there's right wing demonstrations to counter
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demonstrate.
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Exactly.
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And not the Falun Gong pho.
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No, certainly not.
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The regular old pho.
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So Patrick jumps in, and man, look, I got to be honest.
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I don't like this guy, but what you've got to give up to him,
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you've got to tip your hat to the fact
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that he's good at saying he has sources.
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What the hell's going on here?
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Well, Alex, thank you for having me.
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I have been briefed by insiders about what's
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really going on here.
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And what's really going on is a proxy war
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that's playing out between President Donald Trump and Bill
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Gates.
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And I'm sorry to have to report to the president
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that Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah
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Birx are stooges for Bill Gates.
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They are part of his Confederacy of Dunces.
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I am shocked.
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They're trying to carry out the sinister agenda
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upon the world.
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So like I said, he's good at saying he has a source.
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He's talked to insiders.
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It took one sentence for me to agree with you.
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He has the most annoying speech pattern.
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It's rough.
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It is really rough listening to this dude.
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That is bothersome.
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He seemed like if he was talking about something
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that I was interested in, I would still
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think you are really angry.
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There's a tone to his voice that is just like, dude, calm down.
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You are so mad.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I would love to hear analysis from other people
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about the Firefly Fun House match.
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And if Patrick Hawley was talking about it,
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I would not want to listen.
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I have no interest.
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I would be like, you are so mad.
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If he was talking about how good a match it was, still, mm-mm.
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So anyway, he's very dumb.
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And he's on the chloroquine narrative tip.
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Really can't believe we're still doing this.
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Yep, we still are.
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And it's going to get worse.
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Of course.
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Now, Bill Gates says these vaccines might not come up
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for another 18 months, by which point
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the American economy is going to be toast,
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by which point we're going to be hauling dead bodies
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through the streets.
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This is the agenda.
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And you know what?
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President Donald Trump threw a wrench into all of this
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because he discovered hydroxychloroquine,
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a very cheap anti-malarial drug that has been around for years.
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And now we have people fighting hydroxychloroquine.
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How prescient that today, on Fox News,
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on the Quizzling Chris Wallace's show,
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he had the nerve to have Bill Gates on, and also
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the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer,
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who tried to shut down chloroquine in her state.
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She restricted it, just like Andrew Cuomo.
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And I'd like to know of Andrew Cuomo's brother, Chris Cuomo,
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who says he's having hallucinations.
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I don't know how that's any different than his usual
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content on CNN.
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Get him.
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I don't know if he's on chloroquine.
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What kind of drugs are he on?
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What kind of drugs are the elites getting
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that the people are not getting?
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Is that an adrenaline reference, bro?
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Oh, man.
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Jesus.
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These people.
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Yeah, this is a little lame.
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Just line up.
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Just line up to die.
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You guys are insane.
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I just feel like there is such a rank misunderstanding
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among these folks of people who are saying,
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you got to be careful when you're talking about something
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like a medication.
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They take that to be like you're opposed to it.
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If there were actual good human trials that
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had been done that showed that hydroxychloroquine was
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effective, I don't think that anyone would be against it.
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We'd be like, fuck yes.
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Thank you.
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And no one is saying, hey, cut it out.
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They're saying, reel it in.
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Reel it in.
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You can get people hurt with talk like this.
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We've already seen at least one documented death
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from people taking this advice.
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And the possibility of a lot more does exist.
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That's why you have to be careful with those things.
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That's not being anti-chloroquine or whatever.
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It's such a stupid black and white way
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of looking at things.
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It is interesting.
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If we accept the hypothesis that Alex knows he's lying
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about this, then it is hard to take his opening statements
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of everybody's fucking stupid and cheap.
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And I guess maybe they do need to get rid of as being anything
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other than him talking about his friends.
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Well, we know he complains about his friends a lot.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And his listeners like, if you believe what Alex is saying,
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then Alex is talking about you.
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Might be.
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So anyway, Fauci, you know, he's coming out here
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and he's saying that chloroquine is the devil, basically.
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That is not what he said.
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Well, but it turns out he used to be into chloroquine.
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Back when Obama liked it.
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Back in the 60s?
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Back when Obama liked it.
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Was it like LSD?
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And he loved chloroquine.
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When Obama was president, he had a MERS coronavirus outbreak.
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But now, all of a sudden, he doesn't like it so much.
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He's pushing a nationwide stay-at-home order.
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And I refuse, Alex, as a longtime listener of you
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and as a reporter, to watch our freedom get taken away
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and tyranny imposed on us by this little Napoleon
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complex man and the dark lady, Deborah Birx,
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who was appointed by Obama.
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You're a shitty Lionel.
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For radio listeners, we're putting all this on screen.
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Fauci got a $100 million grant a few years ago.
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They worked together very closely in eugenics.
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They're carrying this out.
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Fauci was involved the whole age.
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In eugenics.
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So Anthony Fauci's history as it relates to the HIV crisis
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is simultaneously a complicated one and a not so complicated
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one.
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According to many of the HIV activists who worked with him
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back then, Fauci was initially exactly the sort
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of government bureaucrat kind of guy that you might expect.
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But he was receptive.
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He listened.
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And eventually, he became an important ally
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in that public health crisis.
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Oh, that's a recipe for getting killed
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by the right wing in 2020.
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An article on The Body Pro discusses how, quote,
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he dramatically loosened HIV drug clinical trial requirements
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so that a far greater number of desperate patients
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could try new compounds, an approach called parallel
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tracking.
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He expanded research on HIV AIDS and its treatment
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in underrepresented women and or people of color
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and gave activists and people living with HIV
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seats at the table of the planning committee of the AIDS
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clinical trials group.
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The article quotes Jim Igoe, who was an activist with Act
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Up, who said, quote, Fauci was a sparring partner with us,
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then a friend.
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They also quote Anne Northrup, another Act Up activist.
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Quote, I would say that at the beginning of his encounters
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with us, he was a pretty typical bureaucrat,
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making excuses for the slow pace of drug investigations
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and approval.
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I still give him credit for turning
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into someone who listened more to the activist point of view
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and eventually became more of an ally.
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There are definitely plenty of criticisms
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that can be made of his and any government entities
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handling of the HIV crisis in the 80s and 90s,
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but it's a little much to say that Fauci was involved
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in this cover up or something.
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And that's especially rich coming
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from Alex, who constantly has John Rappaport on his show
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as a medical expert, considering that Rappaport is an HIV
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denialist who sells DVDs of his lectures on the subject,
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despite a complete lack of medical qualifications.
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As for the question of chloroquine and Merce,
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that's a completely different matter than what
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we're dealing with today.
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For one, what Patrick is probably referring to
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is an article in NBC News from May 20th, 2014,
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titled, quote, Merce Cure, question mark?
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Lots of drugs might fight virus, study finds.
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Chloroquine was one of the drugs that were included
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in that lots of drugs.
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And here's what Anthony Fauci said back then.
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Quote, it's a good start.
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You try to stay ahead of the game.
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There's a host of things we're doing.
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Hopefully we will never have to use any of them.
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I would need Patrick to provide stronger evidence than this
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to back up his claim that Fauci was all about chloroquine
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back when Obama was president, but now he's against it
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because Trump likes it.
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And also, what does Patrick mean when he says
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that Deborah Birx was appointed by Obama?
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True, she was made the US Global AIDS Coordinator
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by Obama in 2014, but that wasn't her first position
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in government.
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She was the director of the CDC's Division of Global HIV
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and AIDS since 2005, which predates Obama's presidency,
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and she was working at the NIH since 1986.
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Obama became a senator in 2004.
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He probably appointed her back then.
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She was at the NIH since 1986.
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Done.
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He became a community organizer in 1986,
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so he appointed her then.
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Done.
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He was anointed from birth to be president,
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so he was maneuvering people at the NIH.
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Was she born in Kenya too, Dan?
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Maybe.
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I haven't seen her long form.
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So sure, she was appointed to a position by Obama,
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but it means nothing in this stupid conspiracy
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that he's going on, so whatever.
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It's easy whenever you're a head guy
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whom you love so much, your dear leader
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has never held a position in government
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for you to convince your listeners
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that nobody else has either.
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Yeah, or that everybody who you don't like in the moment,
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their history starts when Obama did something.
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Exactly, yeah.
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It's like, eh, that's not quite accurate.
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They were public servants for decades.
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I can't imagine somebody wanting to be a public servant
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to serve the public, Dan.
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That sounds crazy.
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That sounds absolutely insane.
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I'm gonna assume that she's a globalist out to kill us all.
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Probably.
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Anyway, in this next clip, there is this weird obsession
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that I see on Alex's show, and I don't think
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we make enough of a point of it,
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and that is that Alex's only real argument
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that he has about how Trump was handling this correctly,
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I mean, it used to be that Trump secretly declared
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an emergency a month ago.
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Right, but he didn't actually do that.
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No, and Alex has stopped saying that.
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But the only thing that's really consistent
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in terms of evidence that Trump was on the ball,
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he was taking care of business, TCB.
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Sure.
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He was like Bachman-Turner overdrive out there.
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Right.
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The only example he has is that Trump tried
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to block flights from China.
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Hey, he did it.
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Right?
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He did it.
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He could've saved us.
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That's the only thing.
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He could've saved us.
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Yep.
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They have early on tried to blame Trump for this,
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even though Trump's one that blocked the Chinese flights.
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Now the new talk is, he acted late, it's his fault,
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and he wants to open the country, he's a bad guy.
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They say it'll peak at like two, three thousand
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dying a day.
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He's been a bad guy, now he's a murderer.
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The common cold is corona, just not COVID-19.
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So they're actually adding in everyone that has antibodies
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for the common cold who's dying in America to the list.
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It's incredible.
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Well, that's right, Alex.
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So, Patrick agreeing with that is disqualifying.
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That is like, Alex just rambled through a load of nonsense.
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Bullshit.
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I understand him agreeing with the narrative
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that Trump tried to block these flights,
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and therefore he did everything he was supposed to do.
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Everything he's supposed to do.
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Which is nonsense, but.
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It's not like there was a CDC directive
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that literally laid out the plans for what needed
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to be done in this situation, and he ignored it.
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That would be crazy.
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Right, right.
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There is a ton of breakdown he could do on that front.
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But Alex does have his xenophobic position,
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just as a sort of the center, his core.
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And so the idea that he tried to stop travel
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is like, that's all you need to do.
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Which is silly.
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He tried to stop that caravan,
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now he tried to stop flights.
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Because, I mean, obviously, I think in the episode
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where we talked about Alex's response to the Ebola stuff,
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we talked about how these travel restrictions
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don't really work.
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They can slow things down a little bit,
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but they don't really work.
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Because if you have these cases that are identified
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in China, you shut off travel from China,
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like some of these cases might already be outside of China.
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So you could have someone from Russia, neighboring country
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or whatever, who comes over, you don't have
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a travel restriction there, it can still get in.
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There might be some slowing down of progression
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that you can do, and maybe there's some value to that,
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but the consequences of it maybe make things even worse.
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So it's a complicated picture,
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but it's the only thing Alex cares about.
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But I understand the idea that Patrick
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would agree with that.
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The fact that he's just like, yeah,
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when Alex is saying that anybody who tests positive
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for antibodies to the cold, any kind of coronavirus
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is being called COVID-19, he doesn't have anything
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to base that on.
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He gives no citation, no evidence of that at all.
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I don't see any reason to think
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that he's not just making that up.
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Yeah, because he's probably making it up.
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Yeah, and Patrick's like, yeah, I'm an anti-communist
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propaganda yes and guy, so whatever.
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That sounds just as reasonable as the bullshit
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I was about to say, so why not agree with you now
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and skip that part?
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Now, Patrick might be about to swing you.
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I doubt it.
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Because he's gonna talk some shit on Joe Biden.
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Okay, I still doubt it.
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To be fair, this is an instance where Joe Biden's
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being done dirty, and...
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Of course he is, because all the legitimate criticisms
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that you have of Biden are almost equally applicable
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to your guys, you gotta make up some bullshit.
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Well, this one is also from 2005.
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Okay, all right, right, because Obama appointed him
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Vice President in 2005, right?
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Yes, let's go ahead and say that.
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It has to do with the John Roberts confirmation hearings.
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Joe Biden, the very guy who in 2005 asked John Roberts
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in the Supreme Court confirmation hearing,
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can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body
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to track his every movement?
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There's an actual discussion about that.
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Now, I haven't seen anything in the King James Bible
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about vaccines, but I have seen something
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about the Mark of the Beast, and I know that these people
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are drawing us into something very sinister here.
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This guy is an angry kid, man, it's awful.
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I've never been checkmated more than I haven't seen anything
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in the Bible about vaccines, woof.
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So this is really fun.
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All these dumb, dumb conspiracy theorists like to trot out
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this quote from Joe Biden during the John Roberts
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confirmation to claim that Biden wants to microchip everyone
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and bring us into the Mark of the Beast or whatever.
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This quote that they always use, as Patrick did
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in a recent post on National File, is quote,
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we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions
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of the 21st century.
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Can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body
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to track his every movement?
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There's actual discussion about that.
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You will rule on that, mark my words,
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before your tenure is over.
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Can brain scans be used to determine whether a person's,
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a person's inclined for criminality or violent behavior?
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You will rule on that.
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This sort of a quote is one that is begging
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for surrounding context.
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Why don't we take a look and listen to what Biden
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was actually saying?
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No, we don't have recordings from 2005, Dan,
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that's too far in the past.
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There's no way that we could.
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I actually, one of my magical powers is, I go back in time.
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The way back? Yeah.
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Like the founders, I believe our Constitution is as big
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and as grand and as great as its people.
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Our constitutional journey did not stop
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with women being barred from being lawyers,
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with 10-year-olds working in coal mines,
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or black kids forced into different schools than white kids.
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Just because the Constitution, in the Constitution,
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nowhere does it mention sex discrimination,
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child labor, segregation, it doesn't mention it.
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Our constitutional journey did not stop then,
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and it must not stop now, Judge,
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and we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions
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in the 21st century.
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Can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body
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to track his every movement?
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There's actual discussion about that.
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You will rule on that, mark my words,
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before your tenure is over.
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Can brain scans be used to determine
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whether a person's inclined toward criminality
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or violent behavior?
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You will rule on that.
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And Judge, I need to know whether you will be a justice
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of beliefs that the constitutional journey
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must continue to speak to these consequential decisions,
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or that we've gone far enough
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from protecting against government intrusion
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into our autonomy into the most personal decisions we make.
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Judge, that's why this is a critical moment.
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Whoops, Biden was actually bringing this possibility up
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as an example of something he wanted
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to take Robert's temperature on
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because he thought it would be government intrusion
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into our autonomy.
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Whoops, Biden was actually saying he wanted
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to be comfortable that Roberts was against that
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before confirming him.
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Whoops, Patrick Hawley knows good and goddamn well
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that the next thing Biden says
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in that confirmation hearing is that.
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He knows that, but he pretends he doesn't
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because it invalidates the narrative
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he's trying to build with that out of context quote.
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This is what liars do.
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That's such bull, for as much as I hate Biden,
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if James O'Keefe came out with a video professing
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to show anything, I'd be like, go fuck yourself.
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I don't give a shit what you lying pieces of shit
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have to say.
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Well, it's one of those things that you shouldn't,
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I mean, you can almost always make that assumption
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and you'll almost always be right.
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But, you know, erring too much on the side
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of I assume you're wrong, therefore,
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I won't take anything you say as being plausible
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can be just as destructive of a view.
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Now, granted, from my experience of constantly looking
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into all of these things over and over again,
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I will say that almost never is something above board
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that's put out by almost anybody
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who's an associate of Alex Jones.
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I will give them 1% of the benefit of the doubt.
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That's a little bit of a high bar to cross
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for me to give a shit, though.
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Yeah.
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The thing is that like, that quote, you can use it,
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and you do, like someone like Patrick does,
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but the reality is he knows.
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Unless he just read it on some website
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completely devoid of context and he didn't look into it,
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he has to have watched this.
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Yeah, of course.
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If he had not seen it, I don't believe
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that he wouldn't be like, wait, what does that mean?
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What is he trying to say?
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And if he's not, then he's not a curious person.
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He is not.
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That means, like, I don't know,
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maybe you shouldn't be in the line you're in.
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You would think.
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You shouldn't be in a position
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where you're conveying information to people
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if you are not curious about what that information means
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in its appropriate context.
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He is not at all interested in that,
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and his job is not to convey information.
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His job is to spread propaganda.
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So he is in the perfect line of work, Dan.
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You may be right.
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Yeah.
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So also, he is against,
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Patrick is against immigration quite a bit.
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Can't imagine.
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He doesn't like the idea that governments
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giving money to bail out these businesses
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has something to do with immigration.
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He wants them to, he wants these businesses to fail.
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Sure.
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Something to do with punishing,
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this is weird, this is a weird clip.
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All right, I'll take this.
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We're going over backward to serve globalist corporations
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who will leave us in two seconds
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when the mass immigration policies that they lobby for
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give us a permanent Democrat socialist majority.
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We have no reason to cater to these people
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or bail them out with our money.
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Let them fail.
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That's the free market.
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That's right, let's go further.
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They know that giving China one-sided trade deals
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and building it up, Trump was ending that,
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bringing industry back, they make almost all our drugs.
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So now China has the virus, shuts down a few weeks,
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opens back up, we're shut down for supposedly years,
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China wins the trade war
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where the globalists have all invested.
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So this is admittedly a globalist operation.
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Admittedly, I don't know how it's admittedly
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a globalist operation.
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I don't even think any of those things
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you're saying are accurate.
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Now, the thing that I think is really interesting
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about this is Patrick Hawley is clearly furious
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at these companies for encouraging immigration
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because he believes it will lead
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to a democratic socialist voting bloc.
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As most corporations want.
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Sure.
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So that's weird.
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And in response to that, he says, fuck it, let them fail.
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Yeah.
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Now, in the climate that we're dealing with right now,
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the reason that a lot of these businesses will fail
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is because businesses have to be closed
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because they're unessential businesses.
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So when he's talking about this,
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that's clearly what is trying to be mitigated
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by these government efforts.
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Yeah, you would think that doing a good thing
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would be recognized as a good thing.
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What do you mean?
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I'm not sure I follow.
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Trying to keep these small businesses from closing.
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Well, he's not talking about small businesses.
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Oh, he's not talking about small businesses.
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He's talking about these big government,
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or not government, these big global.
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Air cartels, like that kind of,
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like the cruise line industry.
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Yeah, fuck them.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, the distinction is very weird
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because he wants these businesses to fail
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as some sort of a punishment
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because they encourage immigration in his mind.
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But simultaneously, he also wants people
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to go back to work.
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President Donald Trump is trying to scale this back
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and thank God that we have a Republican in there
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who's looking at the stock market numbers saying,
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we need to get back to work.
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We are going to race against the clock
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to try to get treatment here.
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If we had a Democrat in there,
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this could very well be the one.
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And we all know what we're talking about, the one.
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We've been wondering,
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is it gonna be a fake alien invasion?
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Are they gonna bring out some kind of
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fast moving cylindrical disc
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that they've used Hollywood to predictive program us
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to think it's an alien invasion
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and we have to cast off nationhood
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and form a one world government
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if the aliens are gonna embrace us.
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Is it gonna be climate change,
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this hoax that Greta Thunberg is pushing?
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This guy gets it.
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Wow, man, go to bed.
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Jesus, go away.
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So on the one hand,
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he wants all of these big businesses to fail.
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And then on the other hand,
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he's worried that the stock market is going down
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so people gotta go back to work.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This just seems incongruous.
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And these are things that are said
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within like a minute of each other.
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It doesn't make sense to me.
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It is, it is.
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We need Trump to save these big businesses
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on the stock market
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by making people go back to work
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and risk to their own personal safety
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and each other's safety.
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But also, fuck these big businesses,
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they should go out of business
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because I hate immigration.
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Yes.
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I don't get it.
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This makes perfect sense.
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There's nobody that I want to support
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more than somebody who looks at
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hundreds of thousands of people dying across the world
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and thinks, thank God we have a Republican president
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who's willing to look at the stock numbers.
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That's what I want, that's what I support, you know?
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Yep, that line on that graph is.
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Gotta, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know what I.
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Money's real, Dan, did you know that?
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You know what I like to do
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is I like to take the stock market, right?
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I take a stock's price on the x-axis.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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And then on the y-axis,
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number of chickens affected. How many people died?
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Snicking issues.
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Exactly.
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Gotcha.
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So in this next clip, Patrick Hawley is gone
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and good riddance.
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Boy, I do not look forward to his next appearance
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on the show.
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No, no, no.
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That voice is tough.
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I don't look forward to his.
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Like even if he was continuing to speak ever.
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Even if he was interesting in the same way
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that someone like Leo Zagami is or something like that,
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I still would have a real tough time
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sitting through it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Even if he was admitting to 9-11, I wouldn't like it.
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He's a shittier Lionel.
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He's a really shitty version of Lionel.
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Yeah, Lionel's voice is super annoying.
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I did get a lot of feedback from listeners about that.
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Like, too much Lionel.
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I can't handle my voice.
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It is annoying.
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It's so annoying.
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But I mean, it's better than that fucker.
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So Alex teases his next guest in this next clip.
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Folks, we're gonna start the second hour.
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And if you thought this was big news this hour,
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we've got good news next hour.
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You think that hydroxychloroquine
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that we've been talking about for eight, nine weeks is good?
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Turns out, there's something even better.
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And I did a bunch of research,
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talked to a bunch of medical doctors,
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and a lot of stuff I'm gonna tell you about this.
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Medical doctors.
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Selling it, by the way.
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Medical.
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And I almost don't want to announce this
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till I go out and get it for myself.
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It's amazing.
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Mike Adams is gonna be on with us to talk about this,
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coming up.
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What I am selling is just good natural things
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you know are good for yourself.
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We have a great multivitamin, the Real Red Pill.
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I'm giving it a 50% off right now,
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even though it's gonna sell out very, very soon,
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because it's got zinc.
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You know what?
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Because it's got zinc, Dan.
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Sure.
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Now, I'm not saying that zinc does anything.
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I'm not connecting zinc to any situation right now.
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I wouldn't want to do that.
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I'm just saying that it has zinc in it.
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And perhaps on episodes prior,
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I have made it a point that zinc does good things.
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Maybe you could use one of these things
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called a hypothetical syllogism.
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Yeah, I mean.
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And put together A equals B, B equals C, A equals C.
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Who knows?
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Put it together on your own.
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The FTC's not smart enough to figure that out.
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No.
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And maybe that's not illegal.
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I don't fucking know.
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That's probably true.
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So one of the things I think is really funny there
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is Alex is like, I don't know if I want to bring
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this information that I am presenting
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as really important health information to you
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because I know that I'm gonna cause a run on a product
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and I want to make sure I have some myself.
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Yes.
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Very weird, very strange.
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No, that's an altruistic person right there, Dan.
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I will tell you about the cure
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as soon as I already have it.
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Have a bunch of it.
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As soon as I have already hoarded the cure
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for this disease, you will know.
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Now the second thing is, I was listening to that,
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I was like, I know that myself,
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I've been a fan of shows in the past
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and I know that when a certain guest is on that show,
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like a podcast, I'm gonna be like, this is gonna be good.
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Like I've.
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Andy Daley shows up on.
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Almost anything.
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On anything, yeah.
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That's going to be like, oh, you see that?
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Oh shit, Daley's here.
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I'm in.
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Yeah, exactly like that.
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I wonder if there are people who listen to Alex Jones
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and he's like, we got Mike Adams coming up
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and they're like, holy shit.
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I'm gonna get the good info right now.
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Shit's getting real.
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Two million dead, 90,000 dead, zero dead, everybody dead.
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I don't know day to day.
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I wonder if there is a community of people
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who like legitimately view his sort of recurring guests
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as like the same way we look at like an Andy Daley
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or Mike Schmidt on Never Not Funny or something.
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I just can't believe it, but there have to be, right?
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There has to be something like that.
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That's disgusting.
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That's really sad to think about.
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Yeah, that bummed me out a bit.
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That's a real bummer.
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Yeah, that's the reverse of my.
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That's the reverse Bright Spot team.
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So Alex goes to break.
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He's teased that Mike Adams is coming up.
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He's not here yet, but he does have another guest.
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Of course.
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He has a big old gun on his desk.
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We're a TV viewer.
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You notice that I have a very nice H&K German firearm
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right here.
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The rented tank of guns, they call it.
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It's the gold standard still
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of a nine millimeter submachine gun.
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I love these.
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And I've got a lot of nine millimeter submachine guns.
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I guess I got five of them, six of them.
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And I've got.
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For hunting.
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Five, five, six, you know, smaller rifles and things.
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And I've got 308 and I've got 338 Lapua
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and I got 50 cals and I got it all.
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But this is probably my favorite gun.
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For hunting.
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I can hit bullseye pretty much all the time
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at 50 to 100 yards without even trying with this.
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Without a magnified scope.
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When hunting.
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It's amazing.
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But you know, I use this for defense.
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I can still carry it, but this is what I've got in my car.
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What?
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And it's because it's super accurate.
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For not just defending myself,
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but if I see bank robbers or people robbing somebody,
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I can shoot them right in the eye.
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If I see bank robbers.
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If I see bank robbers.
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That situation we're all very often in.
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If I'm driving around with my rifle in the car
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and I see some bank robbers.
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Oh, got to get out of the car.
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It's time to stop a bank robber.
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If I see some motherfucker looking like a hamburger
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running into the first national, I got a rifle.
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If I hear about what the Dalton gang is up to,
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I'm going to be there, buddy.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I guarantee he's never used that gun in any,
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first of all, not for a bank robbery,
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but second for not any similar situation.
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I don't want to be a dick and be like,
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eh, you know, whatever.
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Having a gun for protection and stuff like that
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isn't categorically a bad thing,
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but the way Alex is presenting this is ludicrous
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and so funny.
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That is, that's how his brain works.
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He imagines he's going to run into a bank robbery.
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Of course he does.
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Of course he does.
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He keeps it in his car just in case a bank robbery
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breaks out.
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Also, he hates banks.
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Why would he stop a bank robbery?
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Because it's the right thing to do, Dan.
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All of them are FDIC insured.
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They're mixed up with the Fed.
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He doesn't give a shit.
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I feel like from his principles,
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he should be more likely to use that rifle
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in a bank robbery.
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To rob a bank robbery.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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That is such that idea.
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Like Mark Wahlberg being like,
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man, if I was on that plane, I would stop 9-11.
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Just like, who are you people?
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Yeah.
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Nothing stop.
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Misguided heroic masculinity is such a fascinating,
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fun thing.
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Just go home.
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Yeah.
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Just go away.
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Alex gets into, in this next clip,
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talking about why is the gun on the desk?
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Beyond the fact that he loves guns
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and he likes to show them.
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Sure.
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The reason I have the gun out here is
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a gun I know can defend me.
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And if a vaccine can be proven to be safe and effective,
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which they lie about, then I would take it as well.
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And I'd shoot it.
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I wouldn't lie about it.
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But when they inject little kids and others
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with these vaccines,
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and they have secret vaccine damage funds,
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that's admitted that they exist.
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Billions a year paid out.
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And then they tell you nobody ever got hurt by a vaccine.
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They're damn liars.
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That's why nobody died at a car wreck.
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So that's like shooting a little kid.
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It's like saying nobody died at Sandy Hook.
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It's a weapon.
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So Alex is making a completely incoherent argument here.
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If you track his logic, it breaks down like this.
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He loves this gun because it gives protection,
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but it can also be used to hurt.
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In the same way, Alex would love vaccines
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if they gave protection, except they're being used to hurt.
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The proof that vaccines are bad is that quote,
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they lie about them being safe,
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which I don't know what he means by that.
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In my experience, the lies about vaccine safety
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that I've encountered have almost entirely come
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from Alex's side.
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Doctors and public health experts don't say that vaccines
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or any medication are totally safe.
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They generally are pretty clear
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that almost everything comes with potential side effects,
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but that the incidents of those side effects
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are almost negligible compared to the benefit
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derived from vaccines.
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Also, Alex and his friends constantly lie
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about various side effects that they imagine from vaccines.
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The vaccine courts are not secret
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outside of people's identity being kept private
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because that's confidential medical information
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that can't be released without invading patient's privacy.
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We've talked about it a bunch in the past,
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but these payments are made not because the courts
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definitively prove that negative experiences
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possibly related to vaccines were caused by vaccines,
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but because if the system were set up in any other way,
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medical progress would be completely stalled
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and these people would end up losing
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almost all of these cases in normal courts.
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The burden of proof is actually way, way lower
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in these vaccine damage courts
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than they would be in any other venue,
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mostly because very few of these people
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could ever make their case in an actual court.
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Now, the comparing this to the situation
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with people being shot by guns is interesting
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because the folks that receive coverage
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by these vaccine courts who are protected by them
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to an extent are the vaccine manufacturers.
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They have a certain amount of liability protection
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that the state assumes because of the gigantic
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public health benefit they provide,
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which would be stopped by having to deal with frivolous
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or just iffy court cases all the time,
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but gun manufacturers are even more protected.
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You really can't sue a gun manufacturer
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if one of their products is used in a murder
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of one of your loved ones.
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The Supreme Court decided in November 2019
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that Sandy Hook families could attempt to sue Remington,
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which is something to watch, but historically,
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that's not been something that's worked out
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because how someone uses a product
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isn't the responsibility of the product's maker,
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generally speaking.
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Alex understands that concept as it relates to guns
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perfectly well, and he yells about it all the time.
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At the end there, he says that giving a kid a vaccine
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is like shooting them with an MP5, which it's not,
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but let's imagine that it were.
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In the case of the kid being shot with an MP5,
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Alex would scream bloody murder if someone tried
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to sue the gun manufacturer or the NRA for promoting guns
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or anybody except the person who did the shooting themselves
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but in the case of vaccines,
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he wants to put the entire system on trial
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as opposed to just the doctor who administered the shot,
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which seems weird.
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To be clear, I think all of this is stupid,
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but I only bring any of this up
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because Alex is trying to use a metaphor
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that absolutely does not work given his belief set.
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Unless he's willing to accept that gun manufacturers
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should be opened up to liability for damage done
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by their products, it doesn't make any sense
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for him to be advocating that kind of thing
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for vaccine manufacturers.
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It doesn't, I mean, if you want to talk about someone
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who's hurt by malpractice that involves a vaccine,
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that might be the same as accidentally shooting somebody,
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but the metaphor doesn't hold.
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Well, if it was an immigrant who accidentally
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did some malpractice, then Alex would never, ever, ever,
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ever shut the fuck up about it.
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Certainly, that would become a years-long running thing.
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See, immigrants are the ones who created vaccines.
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Yeah, there's an intrinsic problem
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with the way he's relating to this
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and the only reason I think it's actually interesting
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at all is because he went out of his way
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to put a gun on his desk in order to make this metaphor
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that's poorly thought out and contradictory
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to what he believes.
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Yes.
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So cool.
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That's a good summation of Alex's show.
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I've got a gun out here to make a point
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that doesn't make sense and actually goes actively
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against my stated principles.
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Guns.
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Yep, that's what it's all about.
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Yep.
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So now, Alex teased that Mike Adams was gonna be on
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to talk about this new miracle cure and...
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Has Alex already gotten a ton?
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What?
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Has he already gotten a bunch of the miracle cure yet?
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I mean, in the last like 15 minutes?
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Yeah.
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Maybe even less than that.
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No, it's probably a couple minutes.
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No, he has not.
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Oh, okay, all right.
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Well, then I can't believe it.
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But it doesn't matter
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because Mike has already put an article out
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on Natural News about this, so like the word is out.
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So his new cure is Morabola?
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No.
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Oh.
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No, this is actually like closer to like,
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in terms of like the really irresponsible stuff they do,
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the kernel of reality here is closer to like,
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this is in the public's interest
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to like maybe discuss a little bit.
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Now, the way they discuss it is terrible.
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Okay.
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But we'll get to that.
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Here, Alex intros Mike to get into the topic of the day.
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This is a big story at naturalnews.com.
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It's also at infowars.com and newswars.com.
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Please spread it, whatever you do.
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This is a lot.
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We're in an information war about fighting for lives.
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This is what we do.
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Single dose of common agricultural drug
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found to essentially eliminate all viral material
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of COVID-19 within 48 hours.
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So going into this right now is Mike Adams.
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This is really exciting news, Mike.
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It's really great news.
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Thanks for having me on, Alex.
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And I want to be clear.
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I think the fastest way to defeat the globalists
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is to defeat the coronavirus
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because if they can keep this thing circulating,
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then they can eventually push for mandatory vaccines.
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The way we cut off their vaccine agenda
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is to beat this thing without even taking much time at all.
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We can beat it, I believe, with these kinds
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of off-label prescription drugs or off-patent,
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excuse me, prescription drugs.
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So what we have here, what they're promoting
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is this thing called ivermectin is the name of the drug.
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And so what you got here, there was a study
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that came out recently in the journal Antiviral Research.
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It was released on April 2nd.
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It was reporting on some research that was done
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about the anti-parasitic medication ivermectin
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and its possible effect on the coronavirus.
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Their findings, taken simply, show that ivermectin
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could decrease the viral load approximately 99.98%
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in 48 hours, which sounds pretty exciting.
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But it's important to recognize that this is not conclusive
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and that there are caveats.
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The first is that this study was done on human cells
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outside the body, or what's known as in vitro.
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So to take these findings and just assume
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that they depict exactly how the body would react
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to the drug if you took it is pretty reckless.
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It indicates a little bit of a lack of understanding
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about how the body works, which is what these dudes
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are about to engage in wholesale.
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You can get one result in isolated cells outside the body,
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but these cells, when inside a human body,
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don't exist the same way they do in a Petri dish.
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They're components of a larger system
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that has complicated inputs and variables
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that could completely change the results
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of any in vitro study you might do.
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Now this isn't to say that this test
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or this sort of thing is worthless,
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but that the results of a test like this
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are things that should be taken as a stepping stone.
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It's a sign of a possibility,
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but not something that's proven.
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Whatever the effect that this ivermectin has
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on these human cells could be undone
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by some biological process within the body
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when these cells aren't isolated.
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You don't know, it's interesting, it's compelling,
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it almost demands further study,
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but it is not something that you can say
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gets rid of 98.98% of coronavirus
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taken by people or whatever.
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Like that's where you get into trouble.
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You just blew my mind.
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So you're telling me that human cells outside of the body
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can react differently than human cells inside of the body?
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That's fucking crazy.
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I just found out that you can transmit a disease
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when you don't have symptoms, Dan.
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I take all of my scientific advice from Georgia governors.
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That's what I do here.
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So you just blew my mind.
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Yeah.
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So it is, like what I was saying is this is interesting
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and it's not something in the same vein as the chloroquine
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because those studies were pretty flawed.
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And from what I can tell, as far as I know,
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I don't know this,
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because I certainly would be in no position to know this,
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but from what it said on the website of this journal,
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this antiviral research journal,
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that this is peer reviewed.
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So it's not like just some thrown out again.
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It's an incredibly promising study
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that shows real signs of possibility.
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However, that doesn't mean anything yet.
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Incredibly promising is putting it too strongly.
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Okay, this is a promising study.
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Yes. There we go.
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Yeah, there is some potential here.
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That's great.
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That doesn't mean anything yet.
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But that's even reflected in the study itself,
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which concludes quote,
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altogether the current report combined
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with known safety profiles demonstrates
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that ivermectin is worthy of further consideration
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as a possible SARS coronavirus two antiviral.
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The study shows that more research should be done
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and not that this should be promoted as a cure.
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What Alex and Mike are doing and getting ready to do
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is deeply irresponsible.
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They just jump from one unproven miracle cure to another
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because they can't do anything else.
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Their worldview and narratives have no depth to them.
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So they just have to keep moving
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and keep crafting elaborate and exciting things
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to distract their audience
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from realizing they're full of shit.
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And also another element to it is I think
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that they have to do stuff like this
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because the alternative is the stuff
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that Alex was doing on the last episode
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that ended up getting into cause for war with China.
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Like if you pursue that path too far,
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you're going to get tons of people killed
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through street violence against Chinese Americans.
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Like you have to do something like this
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to make it so the focus isn't all on saber rattling.
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And that said, because there's another way to do this
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is just do neither.
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You can get away with influencing a lot of deaths
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slowly over time by a disease
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easier than you can get away with calling for war.
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Probably, although hold that thought
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till the end of this episode.
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We'll see.
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Because we might also be at war.
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Hey, what are you going to do?
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Hey, what are you going to do?
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It's a mess.
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These dudes are really taking this study
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in antiviral research and going too hard with it.
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They're doing too much.
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This story is about ivermectin,
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which is an agricultural drug.
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You can buy it here in Texas.
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You can buy it at tractor supply retail stores.
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Sounds a little bit like a publisher too.
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Every cattle rancher has this.
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It's a deworming drug and it's available over the counter.
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It's very inexpensive.
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By the way, when you told me this,
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I remembered a large animal that I worked for
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that did major in vitro-
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A large animal you worked for?
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On for five years.
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Jess Adkins, I remember him saying,
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oh, you're getting sick.
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Take dewormer.
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I remember him drinking dewormer 30 years ago, bro.
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Yeah, we miss him.
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30 years ago, bro.
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Bro, I've been drinking ivermectin for 30 years, bro.
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Bro, I'm not going to fuck around.
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He can't be reached to guest on this episode
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because he died of dewormer toxicity.
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What are you going to do?
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So to be clear, this is a medication
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that is mostly a veterinary medication.
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There is a human version, but it's called stromectol.
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That is a prescription drug for humans.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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What Mike is doing is advocating
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that people take animal medicine.
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Really take a step back and let that soak in.
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The health ranger is promoting animal medications
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as a cure for the coronavirus
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based on a very much inconclusive study.
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He doesn't understand.
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That's staggering stuff.
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Like take it outside of the prism of like,
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where we are in this world,
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so we have like so much jadedness to the...
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Oh, it's brutal.
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You just, you write that down on a piece of paper
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and you give it to somebody to read
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who doesn't know about who these people are.
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Right.
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That's bleak.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's a, it's like a TV plot.
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Like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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You gotta, like the guy who's just been in a firefight
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and he's running away from the cops
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and he knows he can't go to a real hospital,
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so he has to go to his veterinary friend
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who still knows how to sew people up
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and pull the bullet out and he's like,
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thanks man, I can only trust you.
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Like, that's what we're living in.
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I'm thinking more it's the sort of thing
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that Alex would judge someone in a third world
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or developing country for advocating if they...
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These people take animal medicine.
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They don't even know a goddamn thing.
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They're not even taking people medicine.
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Yeah, it seems like that kind of thing.
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And it's so, it's kind of tough to see that
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as you like constantly are just inundated by this stuff,
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but like you take it outside of the context
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of it being Alex and Mike and it's like, this is ludicrous.
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This is ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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Which means it'll be on Fox News tomorrow.
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So hold on though,
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Mike wants to be very clear about this.
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Of course he does.
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He is not recommending you take his medication.
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Great, great.
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Just to be clear, we're not recommending this
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for human consumption at the moment.
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Let's be clear.
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I'm just saying what I've witnessed.
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Yes, let's be clear.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, people do take it.
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I've had people text me and say, they took it.
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They ate it.
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You can buy it as a apple flavored paste for horses.
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And some people have eaten it
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and they say it tastes really nasty,
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but it works.
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Sell it in a bucket.
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I'm not recommending it for anybody until we know more,
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but it really feels like you're walking that line.
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Hey, I just want to be legally clear.
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I want to be 100% legally clear.
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I am not recommending you take this miracle drug
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that I am telling you cures the coronavirus.
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Now, I should tell you that I know people
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who took the horse paste and it's apple flavored,
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tastes bad, but hey, they love it.
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They texted me, but I am not saying people should take it.
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Legally clear.
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Really feels like that's the main line
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they're trying to walk there, which is fun.
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So Mike gets into talking about this study a little bit
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and I don't think that he engaged with it well.
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This has been published in Antiviral Research,
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which is a peer reviewed science journal.
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And it's very clear that the data show
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that this can fight against simian virus, dengue fever,
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West Nile virus, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus,
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influenza, and even a pseudo rabies virus.
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And this is available right now.
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And it's FDA-
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I am not recommending you take it.
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For some types of things, not for the coronavirus yet.
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So this study doesn't show any of those things
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that Mike is claiming.
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It references other studies that have indicated
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some promise for ivermectin as a broad spectrum antiviral,
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but Mike is really overselling this thing.
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Also, as it relates to dengue, the study literally says,
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quote, ivermectin was the focus of a recent phase three
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clinical trial in dengue patients in Thailand,
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in which a single daily dose was found to be safe,
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but not produce any clinical benefit.
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All right.
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There may be something worthwhile here,
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but from the information that's available,
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this kind of talk from someone pretending
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to be a health ranger is fucking premature.
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This is not, they are overhyping this to an extent
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that's just deeply irresponsible.
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Listen, I am not going to,
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I am saying that you should not take this drug.
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Don't take the horse paste.
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That cures dengue fever, that cures coronavirus,
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that cures simian virus, that cures Ebola, why not?
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That cures-
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Pseudo rabies.
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Simian polio twice over, it double cures polio.
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I'm not saying that you should take this.
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Not rabies, pseudo rabies.
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Pseudo rabies.
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I'm not recommending that you take that.
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Frankly, I think it would be irresponsible for somebody
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to say you should take this drug that cures all diseases.
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Bing, bing, bing, bing, what's this?
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Oh, a text from someone who took it and is doing great.
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Oh man, that's crazy, that's crazy.
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I'm not recommending you take it,
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but this person on my phone who definitely is real.
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So Alex seems to think that what's going on
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is that the media doesn't like people
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taking things off label, right?
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Whatever the drug is, they don't like you using drugs
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for different purposes than X.
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I thought everybody did that.
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Sure.
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I mean, drugs have different uses.
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Like wellbutrin is an antidepressant,
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but it's also a smoking cessation drug.
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There's tons of things like that.
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But the issue is the thing that people are pushing back
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against isn't that this is an off-label use,
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it's that there isn't good science that
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shows that this is effective, and it could hurt people.
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So when the president comes out and says, why not?
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Hey, what do you got to lose, Dan?
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And then the American Medical Editor is like, the living.
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You have living to lose.
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Don't do what the president says.
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That's what people are responding to,
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not so much a vague concept of off-label use.
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Now, his complaint about this is dumb.
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But what makes it worse is then he goes on to name him
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and might go on to name multiple drugs that
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are used for different things.
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This might work.
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If the hydroxychloroquine doesn't work for a patient,
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this is another avenue to try.
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By the way, the media acts like they don't want any hope
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that it's evil to have things off label.
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They don't want hope.
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That's what always happens with some new disease.
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It's almost always some old drug that's the answer.
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Well, the media has been promoting off-label use
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of all kinds of drugs for many, many, many years.
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That's nothing new to them.
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What, are they changing their story now?
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But look, them?
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We didn't take Rogaine.
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You were doing it.
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That was for 30 years until the 90s.
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That was a high blood pressure medicine.
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Now they learned it grows hair.
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Yeah, right.
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Exactly.
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The little blue pills were first researched as a heart drug
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and found out it gives men erections.
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So they changed the use there as well.
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Yeah, but here's the thing.
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Each of those cases that you're talking about
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didn't get changed just on a whim.
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There were trials that were done.
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I remember in the 90s.
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I remember in the 90s, Clinton specifically came out
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and he was like, I don't know, you guys want boners?
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Give it a shot.
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Why not when you got to lose.
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You want boners and hair, take these things.
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Yeah, exactly.
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What do you got to lose?
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Yeah, the difference is the process.
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The process is very important because if we
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didn't have that process, there'd
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be people taking all sorts of fucked up things
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that will kill you and don't actually work, which
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is what Mike, Mike Ebola cure Adams.
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Put a little bola in it.
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Right.
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That's really scary.
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That level of thinking is really fucking scary.
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These people are dumb.
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Do they not realize people are dumb?
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Well, the reason that this is really scary
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is because those examples that they come up
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with that they're like, this is how it always works.
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It's like, those things went through the process
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that the people you're mad at right now are,
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that's their point.
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Rogaine wouldn't be used to grow hair
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if there weren't people who were like, we got to try it out.
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We got to see, we got to do all these tests.
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It's just such stupid, it's such bad thinking.
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No, they're children.
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Yeah, it's terrifying.
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Absolutely.
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They're toddlers.
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So we have these now, a bunch of treatments.
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I mean, we got hydrochloroquine, we got ivermectin,
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we got all these treatments.
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So we don't need to listen to the man.
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Really don't think that's OK.
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This effect is that it blocks the replication of this virus.
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This was tested against the coronavirus, the SARS-CoV-2
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virus, which is what we have right now.
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So this just adds to our treasure chest of possible
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treatments that are available right now.
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Alex, we don't have to be under lockdown.
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We don't have to be under lockdown.
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We don't.
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Yeah, because we got all these treatments.
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And if they try and give you a vaccine, you fucking run.
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Right.
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You run.
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You get away from them and you take some hydrochloroquine
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and some ivermectin and some fucking zinc
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and you fucking hole up and go back to work at the same time.
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Get some dog heartworm medication and you're good.
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Put some apple paste in there and you call it a day.
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That's right.
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So you fell into a little bit of a trap there that I actually
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find very disappointing.
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And that is that you thought that SARS-CoV-2
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wasn't the coronavirus.
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I didn't realize that COV-2 was a thing.
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Well, C-O-V in the middle of it.
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SARS coronavirus 2.
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OK.
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That's one of the names of the...
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That's one of the names, though.
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That's one of these.
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All right.
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I haven't heard that.
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Well, it has been.
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I've been stuck with COVID-19.
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That's just what I've been dealing with.
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Right.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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I'm fine with that.
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They're the same thing.
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But Alex doesn't quite get that as well.
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You and Alex might be in the same camp here.
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Thank you.
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So that's why when you talk about this good news,
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single dose of common anti agricultural drug found
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to essentially eliminate all viral material.
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That's a major study that you're linking to.
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And people think, oh, well, they go, well, this is a new virus.
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You can't say that.
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No, no, it's from the same family as coronavirus.
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So the study is about the SARS coronavirus, too.
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And Alex is saying it's in the family of virus.
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Sure, but it's the same COVID-19 that we're talking about.
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They're just using a different name
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currently in order for a different taxonomy
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to make sense, I guess.
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Yeah, in a different context.
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So Alex tries to...
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Mike corrects him, like, no, that is the same virus.
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Cool.
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And so Alex tries to cover for not knowing.
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He tries to pretend that, like, oh, well, you know,
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I know these things.
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You've got this big study that's in a prestigious journal,
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antiviral research, FDA-approved drug.
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Ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2
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in vitro.
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And again, some are going to spin that and say,
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that's not COVID-19.
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Explain, that's the original name is SARS-CoV-2, correct?
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Yeah, that is the coronavirus.
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That's the Wuhan coronavirus.
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SARS-CoV-2, the original SARS from whatever
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many years ago it was, is SARS-CoV-2.
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I was reading comments that that's why people don't get it
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that it's had a bunch of names.
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But the official original name is SARS-CoV-2.
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So yeah, Alex is trying to really cover for not knowing it,
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as opposed to you owning up to, like, yeah,
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I didn't realize it was the same.
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I have absolutely no problem being in the same boat
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as even Alex in not knowing something.
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If I was in the same boat as Alex
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in denying that I didn't know something,
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then I have a very serious problem.
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Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate that you didn't realize that.
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But at the same time, it is a nice moment
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of the difference in reaction.
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I just, I didn't.
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You're not threatened by.
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I haven't seen it before, so fucking cool.
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I'm in.
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Great.
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So I don't mind being wrong.
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So Alex does mind.
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He does.
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It's a real issue.
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He really has to try and cover for it, and that's great.
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In this next clip, Mike, much like Patrick Hawley,
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is really a brilliant thinker.
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No.
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Take an aim right between the eyes, Dr. Fauci.
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Dr. Fauci is a Bill Gates puppet.
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And Dr. Fauci is Trump's enemy.
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In fact, Dr. Fauci has under oath lied
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to Congress about vaccines.
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And he has come up with the truth that vaccines
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cause horrific side effects.
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Dr. Fauci wants America to suffer and die
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until he can push a vaccine onto everybody
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in order to carry out.
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Oh, he's following the Bill Gates blueprint.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, we just got this inundation of like,
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this guy is Trump's enemy.
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I'm confused as to what the game is on this one.
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What do you mean?
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I mean, this seems like.
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We have taken a harsh pivot towards this being primarily
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an anti-vax situation.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But now, they just can't put it aside.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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They just can't put it aside for like five seconds.
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It seems like Fauci is doing the best he
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can with the expertise he has and the limitations
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that he's dealing with.
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But he's not perfectly in line with Trump's bullshit.
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So he's a threat and he's an enemy.
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I know, but that seems so stupid.
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It does.
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On a level that it's just unconscionable.
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Well, I mean, it's exactly what you
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should expect based on the last couple of years
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that we've been following this.
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It seems like you would imagine that from all the stuff we've
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seen, they'd just be like, OK, look,
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we were fucking around for a long time.
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Sorry about that.
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Look, this is serious now.
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Or find a way to keep the business profitable
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while not being so jeopardizing of people's health.
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Yeah, no, this is that thing of.
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The people who know things are the enemy.
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Kill the smart one.
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It is like people who are of the opinion
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that like, oh, all it will take for humanity
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to really come together is a threat outside of humanity
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that we can all unite around.
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And it's like, no, Alex Jones would be like,
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one, Independence Day is bullshit.
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There are no aliens.
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Sure, you saw the White House blow up.
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The White House blew up on itself.
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And it's just like, no, it's these people.
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Those aliens are working with the globalists
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and they're just trying to scare you.
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You saw the White House blow up.
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It was just trying to scare you to bring in martial law.
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They tell you that aliens are running around
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so you shouldn't leave your house.
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But that's just because they don't want you
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to leave your house.
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Will Smith was born in Kenya.
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Like, whatever, you guys are going
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to try and kill the human race no matter what.
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It is really a bummer.
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Yeah, it is, it is.
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And a lot of the primary direction
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that this seems to be going on this episode.
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And I mean, obviously, anti-vaccination narratives
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have gone throughout, like Alex's fear
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of imagined forced vaccines and stuff.
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But it seems like that's becoming a bit more primary.
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But also, the idea of killing off everybody
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through a world war also seems like it
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might be in Alex's wheelhouse.
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It would be a bad idea.
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I legitimately think that this next clip,
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Alex is trying to start a world war.
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OK, China, I predicted this in early February.
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They would try to export the virus
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to infect as many other countries as possible
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so they could shift the blame away from China.
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And that's exactly what's happened.
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That's all this is.
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They're just trying to make sure they can rewrite history
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and blame Trump instead of China's incompetent corrupt
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leaders.
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But what the hell with all these videos of Chinese
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trying to spread it?
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What the hell?
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And then they're executed if Xi Jinping doesn't like it.
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He's encouraging this.
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Well, yeah, again, it's the anti-American hatred
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that's been put in place because China,
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the social engineering propaganda
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is what precedes war.
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China is going to attack the United States in more ways
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than just this biological weapon.
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I've been writing about that recently as well.
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There are more attacks coming, Alex.
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That's kind of the big news right now.
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People better be ready.
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This is going to get a lot worse from here forward.
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We're in war with communist China.
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When is the time to fight back?
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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When is the time to fight back?
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Yeah, I mean, Mike already, way back,
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predicted a ground invasion of the United States by China.
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So for him, this is all just kind of-
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Something that America has historically
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been terrified of.
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Yeah, this is all kind of in the same vein
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as some of the other bullshit he's been saying.
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But you get into a point where Alex is like,
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what are you doing?
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What are you doing?
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Advocating for a world war with China.
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Yeah, do you think that's just going to be no big deal?
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Do you think China doesn't also have allies?
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Well, no, no, no.
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Do you think the BRICS countries aren't all basically
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going to form in a lot?
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How dare you?
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Let's not do this again.
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Dan, it's good versus evil.
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We don't need to worry about the world getting involved.
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Everybody's going to stay out of the way.
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It's going to be like a one on one.
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It's going to be like an Achilles versus Hector kind
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of situation.
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America versus China.
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Get them in the ring one night only.
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We're going to solve this whole problem.
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No, it'll be like The Fiend versus John Cena.
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In that the fight won't happen, and it'll be a deterioration
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of America's ego.
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Oh, god, that needs to be deteriorated pretty hard.
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I just think that this is so dumb.
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I think it's really irresponsible.
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I obviously don't think it's going to lead to a world war.
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In terms of the rhetoric that he's putting forth,
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I keep getting to that point where it's like, well,
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what you seem to want to happen is that.
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You seem to want circumstances that
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would lead to no other option than open war between the United
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States and China.
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And that is a hellscape.
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That is something that I can't imagine anybody wanting.
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Even someone who hates China, I can't
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imagine them wanting that.
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Here are the options that Alex has kind of provided us
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an issue with.
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There's global cooperation between all of these countries
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to try and destroy or to try and overcome the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
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Thank you.
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Or global world war killing an exponentially greater number
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of people for the sake of lies.
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And the ultimate irony, too, is that what he seems to want
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or the path that his rhetoric takes you down
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is much closer to that lockstep scenario that
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is in the Rockefeller document.
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That he's so terrified of.
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The idea of nation states becoming even further
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insulated and more autocratic and at war
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with each other, regional alliances.
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Like that, it's a dumb response.
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That is the summation of his entire career,
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as we've learned in the past three years,
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is scaring people and terrifying them of something so much
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that they work to bring it about.
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Maybe unintentionally.
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I don't know if that was his goal all along.
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But like, oh, I'm so terrified of a dictator
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and of a tyrant of all of this shit.
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And thank God we can elect Trump to stop that and suspend
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all elections and suppress voters
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and do all of this other shit.
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And you're like, are you fucking with me?
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Was this a huge reverse psychology situation
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the whole time?
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No, I don't think so.
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No, I doubt it.
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They're just too stupid.
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So speaking of people who are stupid, in this next clip,
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Mike talks about some people he went to college with.
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And this is supposed to be in the context of his,
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he has a big point that he wants to make about 5G.
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Oh, I was hoping it was the movie Porky's.
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No.
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Although, I don't remember Porky's perfectly well,
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but there might be a scene similar to this.
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Probably not.
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With 5G towers?
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No, it does involve drinking.
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OK, good.
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So his point is that 5G sets you up to get coronavirus.
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Because the way that it electrifies your blood
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or something, it makes the cells.
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It ionizes them to cleave to the virus better.
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And this is the same as when he was in college.
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And his buddies would lick batteries
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in order to get drunk faster.
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By the way, this is the health ranger.
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I've known people back in college who would drink alcohol
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and they would get drunk by having voltage
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pass through their fingers.
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They would hold battery leads and they would get extra voltage
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and it would make the alcohol like five times more effective.
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They would actually get drunk due to the electroporosity.
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I'm not even, I'm not kidding.
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Because it's pushing it into the cells.
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Yeah, it's pushing the alcohol into the cells.
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It makes you more drunk more quickly with less alcohol.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, man, that's just like when I used to hang out
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with a bunch of potheads in college and they'd be like,
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you've got to cough to get off, man.
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Haha.
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Dude, this is...
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If you don't cough from hitting the bong
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and you're not really getting high. Haha.
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This reminds me of, I don't know if you saw this press conference,
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but this one was not as widely circulated.
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But Dr. Fauci was like, you should not take hydrochloroquine
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just yet because we don't have all the evidence about it
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in the same way that when I was in college,
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we used to butt chug and it didn't turn out
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that that made us get drunk any faster.
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So I think...
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I strongly disagree.
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I saw in Lancet that butt chugging is...
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Oh, God.
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Yeah. Oh, boy.
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That's that's not good.
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I really think that a college drinking story
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should be the basis for a lot of health decisions
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that I've made in my life.
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Hey, listen, 5G is dangerous because my buddies lick batteries.
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Right, bro?
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That is what he's saying!
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That is literally what he's saying!
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I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I tried to look into it
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and I did not find any evidence that some sort of electrifying
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voltage makes you drunk faster.
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Even back then, Mike Adams really knew how to push the envelope.
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Nobody was even testing for whether or not licking batteries
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would get you drunk faster.
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Just seems like some dumb thing that you say in your dorm.
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Yeah, that's insane.
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Yeah. So in this next clip, Mike says something else stupid,
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but it's all that is fun, stupid.
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This is more paranoid, stupid.
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Great.
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Yeah. Speaking of blood draws, by the way, this what Governor Abbott
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announced for Texas, you know, when they test your antibodies,
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they're going to they're going to track your DNA, too.
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So this is this is also a way to just secretly steal everybody's DNA
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without permission.
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Same thing with the nasal swabs.
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When they get a little bit of virus on that on that nasal swab,
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that deep cavity swab, they're also getting your DNA.
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So this is a way to create a DNA database of everybody.
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That's why I'm not going to get tested.
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I'm not going to get an antibody test.
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I don't want the government having my DNA.
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So now they're trying to make everyone scared of testing.
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Alex has already tried this contaminated test narrative,
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which is curiously absent in this episode.
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I don't know what happened in the days, couple of days since then,
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but he's crying about China sending out contaminated tests
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and now is not even bringing it up at all, which is super suspicious.
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Yeah. Now Mike is trying to make everyone scared of getting tested
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because they're going to take your DNA and put it in a database.
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Do you not think that any time you've gotten any kind of blood drawn
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or anything, they could do that if that was the intention?
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Nope.
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God damn it.
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Just like...
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I'm at the place now where it's like...
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It's such unreasonable paranoia.
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You idiots, Mike, Alex, Trump, whomever,
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contract COVID and then cure it or shut the fuck up.
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I'm done.
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I'm done with all these lies about what cures bullshit.
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What a twist would that be?
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I'd be great.
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If Mike Adams...
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If they did it, great.
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Mike Adams gives himself coronavirus and ends up becoming...
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He tests on himself.
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Yeah, he does the penicillin and malaria situation.
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He does the whole thing.
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He fucking infects his son and cures him in front of the Nobel Prize Committee.
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Becomes a hero for the ages.
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Great. Good.
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Or he's a guy telling you to take cow medicine.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fucking put up or shut up.
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I'm done with this bullshit.
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Yeah.
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So the two of them here talk about...
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This is the last sort of thing that they have together.
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And that is they talk about this video that came out on YouTube.
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And it's actually kind of interesting because it doesn't belong on Infowars.
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It can be used by Infowars, that kind of thing.
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So Alex is going to talk about this a little bit.
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And he's just about out of line.
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Mike Adams, thank you so much.
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When we come back, you're going to be gone.
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But you pointed this out to be a natural news article.
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I looked it up, a bombshell plea from NYC ICU doctor and COVID-19,
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a condition of oxygen deprivation, not pneumonia.
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We've got one minute.
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Tell folks what's coming up with this, because he points out that this this is not pneumonia.
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Very important story.
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This emergency physician has noticed that the ventilators are causing the lung damage.
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They're running the wrong methods that ventilators are too much pressure to the lungs,
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because the dogma of the medical system is thinking that this is viral pneumonia.
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It isn't viral pneumonia.
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It's oxygen deprivation.
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And that emergency physician knows exactly what he's talking about.
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Lungs are being damaged by ventilators running the wrong methods.
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That's the story.
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And so what he's saying is they need a big higher oxygen mix.
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They need to run a different method with lower pressure and just support the lungs,
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absorbing oxygen, not take over the lungs by forcing them with higher pressure that causes tissue damage.
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That's what he's saying.
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We're going to play with the doctor, Sid.
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I'm sure the left and media matters will say, do not play doctors.
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Only George Soros, the Nazi collaborator.
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Hey, bingo!
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He loves you. Take the vaccines.
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Thank you, Mike.
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So this doctor in question is a guy named Cameron Kyle Siddell,
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and he put out a YouTube video claiming that he's seeing things that indicate that this is not a pneumonia-like disease.
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And his recommendation is changing the settings on the ventilators.
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I'm not sure if there's good data to back this up,
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but Alex's comment at the end there is really stupid.
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Like, there is an article in, like, the New York Post and other outlets about this guy's video
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and what he's bringing to the table, discussing is there a possibility that there is a better treatment than what we've been using.
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It's an interesting perspective, but Alex thinks that this dude's going to get a ton of pushback
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because Alex gets a ton of pushback for his irresponsible shit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know what to make of this doctor and what he's bringing to the table.
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I don't know. I can't possibly know.
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But the response that I've seen from, like, non-InfoWars outlets isn't like,
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fuck this guy, because it's not him telling you to take dewormer.
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No.
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It's someone saying there's a possibility that there is a better treatment,
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and he was like, is there something to this?
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I don't know. We don't know yet.
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But Alex thinks, like, no, Soros is going to shut it down.
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No. People hate you.
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Yeah.
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People hate you for a very different behavior.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So Alex says he's going to play that video as he's going out to break there,
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and he comes back, and I expected to hear that video.
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I did not.
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Are you sure this isn't how the clip starts?
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It's not like other intelligent people don't know what we're talking about is accurate.
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They decide to join.
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They decide to join with Satan.
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They get scared or they get flattered being offered to be part of the power structure.
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But, you know, I've always been so
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high on life that every time I got around the Satanists, I felt cold and weak.
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I didn't feel strong.
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And so no matter how much danger I'm in or how much I'm being attacked,
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I've got this continual courage from God.
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He was, like, an hour ago talking about how people should be maybe exterminated.
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Bill Gates is right because they're dumb.
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Yeah, that's the courage of God.
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What a dick.
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Also, I love the idea of, like, yeah, other intelligent people get flattered into things.
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God.
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It's just such a chef kiss kind of moment.
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He's just capable of projecting any of his failings onto everyone else.
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Yeah.
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The other thing, one of the other things, so, like,
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in terms of trends that I've been seeing a little bit, one is the flu to cold pivot
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in terms of, like, discussing the coronavirus as the cold as opposed to as the flu.
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One of the other things I've been noticing a lot lately is Alex seems to be getting really
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fucking prophet-like lately, talking about how God is speaking through him.
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That kind of thing a bit more.
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And this next clip, I think, is, like, really indicative of that.
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The smarter and greater my discernment gets, and God just goes, turn loose.
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I'm in control.
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Just go with what I tell you.
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It's not me.
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It's God.
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And it's crazy.
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Yes.
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And so I don't look forward to whatever they're going to do to me because it gets pretty outrageous.
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But for every door that closes, other doors open, there's providence.
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It's a real thing.
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To research providence, my friends, and don't be fearful of how to kill the body.
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Fear he who can kill the soul.
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Now, this has been sold out for 14 weeks.
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That is unreal.
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That is unreal.
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You were fucking dancing around and, like, you had a fucking absolute banger, and then
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you delivered?
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God damn!
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That is unreal.
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That is unreal for those of you who are not in the room.
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I was doing a bunch of religious poses while Alex was talking about providence.
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That is, hey, as my discernment gets better, it's not me.
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It's God speaking through me.
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I have this providence.
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Now, let me tell you, this stuff's been sold out for a while.
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God damn.
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Just such a harsh pivot.
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Look, I know you've lost your jobs, but you got to tithe to me because the Lord seeds
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and so on and so forth, and Paula White-Cain should be the present.
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I have to assume Jesus would turn over a table in Alex's studio.
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I think Jesus would take that whole nonviolence policy and be like, I really fucked up on
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this one, guys.
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My bad.
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I'm going to take care of him, him, him, and then we'll do the nonviolence.
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Jesus would confiscate Alex's rifle.
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He does end up playing that guy's video, don't get me wrong.
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I realize that I might have made it sound like he doesn't play it.
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No, he plays it.
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But he has no analysis.
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He didn't come back with it.
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No, and he also has no analysis for it that's worth listening to.
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It just turns into a bit of an ad thing, and then he plays it right at the end of the show
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and goes out.
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But I have one last clip, and it's just, Alex, he's been trying to sell his zinc, obviously.
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Obviously.
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And he's been doing it great.
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Well, I would say that it's been bad, but this is even worse.
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He seems to be trying to tell his audience like, hey, look, man, I don't know.
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Don't take it from me.
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But doctors have been telling me to take a dangerous level of zinc.
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Great.
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Zinc sold out everywhere.
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People debate about how much zinc should you take.
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I was taking 30 milligrams a day.
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I talked to a lot of folks and they said, no, you should take 100 during this virus.
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But I'm not giving that advice.
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Doctors are saying if you have COVID 19, 250 milligrams.
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I looked that up.
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That's toxic to your kidneys.
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I'm not a doctor.
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I call the doctor back.
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He said, well, that's true.
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But he said, you know, this is so crazy.
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Long term, it's bad for your kidneys.
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I would go ahead and do this now just to be safe.
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So wow, I'm not giving medical advice.
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They've got the George Soros groups breathing down my neck.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That is the great moment right there.
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I've got the George Soros people breathing down my neck.
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I'm not giving you medical advice.
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As if they weren't breathing down his neck, he would say, take 250 milligrams.
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Yeah, no shit.
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It's dangerous.
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It's dangerous.
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But doctors are telling me, hey, look, dude, if you're not giving medical advice, don't
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do this.
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Yeah.
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Don't have this conversation at all.
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It's useless.
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Yeah.
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There is no point to have this conversation outside of some sort of insight you're giving
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your audience.
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Yeah.
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And the insight that you glean from this is like, if you trust Alex as a source of
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information, he's talked to doctors who are like, hey, look, this will cause damage, but
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you should take tons of zinc because this is a higher zinc needed time.
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Like it's fucked up.
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I would be so much better if all of these people continued peddling their bullshit
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conspiracy theories and continued with all that nonsense.
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But for now, the point was like, stay home, social distance, don't do anything fucking
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stupid.
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I'd be fine with it because at least now we're like, we're just going to do the thing now
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and then we'll deal with all this shit later.
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Stay home, but what will really save you is aromatherapy.
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Sure.
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Great.
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Love it.
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But as long as you stay home and social distance, you know, like that kind of shit.
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And I think you could sell that, but this is just murdering.
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I think you could.
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This is I think I absolutely think you could.
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Yeah.
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I don't think I sell potpourri that helps you relax from the virus now.
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Like fine.
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Yeah.
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I don't I don't think I would be as offended by that probably because there would still
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be like not a contradiction of what will help.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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But these guys are this is this is tantamount to a fucking what?
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Manslaughter, a criminal negligence, like I don't know, I don't know what else to describe
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these people like, I don't know how else to describe Trump as anything other than somebody
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who's committing mass scale murder right now.
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Should ask the guys on opening arguments.
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It's insane.
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I well, the problem is the law clearly doesn't mean anything anyways.
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So there's an issue.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's it's it's tough.
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And one of the things I think is really interesting about this episode in particular is that
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one of the reasons I decided to do an episode about it is that you have the development
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of the hydrochloroquine narrative into the ivermectin narrative.
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Yeah.
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And it's better in terms of like some reality.
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Right.
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It's closer to reality, but it's still the same behavior.
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It's still the same reckless responsible behavior.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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These these dudes.
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To the level of criminal.
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Yeah.
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Without doubt, to the level of criminal, regardless of whether or not there is a law that you
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can use to enforce it.
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This is a crime.
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Now, Jordan, what pisses me off the most is that he didn't talk about QAnon.
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Well, that's tomorrow.
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I understand today if you're listening to this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I understand.
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But I wanted like if you are building to a pay per view and wrestling, it's not like
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you're going to not talk about the fight.
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You're not.
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You pretend it doesn't happen.
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That's bullshit.
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This is I am.
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Alex called QAnon out a week ago.
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I know.
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And he has done almost nothing on his show in terms of like building the feud, because
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I think he realizes this is going to be a but a bust.
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I am going to lap up your disappointment like ambrosia tomorrow whenever you realize that
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none of that is going to happen.
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My disappointment is going to be fantastic and I'm excited for it.
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Don't think you get some sort of schadenfreude out of this.
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I'm not getting schadenfreude out of it.
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Not at all.
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I'm saying it's going to be delicious.
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Yeah.
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We will see.
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And we'll be back on our next episode where we will deal with Alex's big reveal of QAnon.
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Or not.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefright.com.
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We also are on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledgefright and I go to bed Jordan.
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Yes, we are on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook and we like to tell the trouble people that.
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I just, knowledgefright, we really like it.
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It's knowledgefright, leave a review, donate to the podcast, do the whole thing.
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Thank you very much to Opening Arguments for bringing us on and etc.
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Yeah, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am Patrick Holly's diction coach.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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