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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating
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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray
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I have great respect for knowledgefight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys
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saying we are the bad guys, knowledgefight
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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight
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need money
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Cadere
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stop it Andy and, Andy and Kansas
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it's time to pray, Andy and Kansas you're on the air
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thanks for holding us
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hello Alex I'm's a fan of the huge band
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dot com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody, welcome back to
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Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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Jordan. We're a couple of dudes
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like to sit around, drink novelty
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beverages and talk a little bit
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about Alex Jones.
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Indeed, we are.
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Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan.
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Kind of a big event happened last
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night.
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Well, it wasn't last night.
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It was Sunday night.
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I don't know what day it is.
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It's Tuesday.
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Well, I didn't.
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Well, a big event happened for me
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Sunday night.
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That was Rafael Kyrgios.
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Oh, incredible match.
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OK, amazing.
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Anyways. Yes.
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OK.
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Rafa Nadal.
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My two favorite players.
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Dan is running around going,
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Dan, Dan.
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Right.
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He says about to get into
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how is the Royal Rumble?
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It was last night again.
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It was Sunday.
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Glad you asked.
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Thank you. I have some thoughts.
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OK, I thought you might.
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It was fun. It was really
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interesting.
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The Royal Rumble was Sunday and
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30 people enter the ring and
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then have to be thrown out.
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Of course, of course.
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The the way they did it this
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year, the it was a really
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interesting structure to it
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that I actually really didn't
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like in the moment.
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But I like in hindsight.
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OK, that's not how
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you enjoy sports.
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But OK, well, it's not sports.
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Sports.
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That's fair enough.
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So Brock Lesnar is the champ
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and he is a monster of a man.
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He's very like a pile of beef.
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He's quite scary.
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Yes.
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And he beats up everybody.
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Yes, of course.
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And so he's the champ and he
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decided he was going to enter
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the Royal Rumble and put
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himself in the first.
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He was number one.
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There's the number one entry.
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So he'd have to fight through
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every everybody, of course,
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which is a cocky move.
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It's a bit of a for a scripted
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show. It seems like a bit of a
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cock cocky move.
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Yeah. And so he enters first.
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And of course, he just beats up
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everybody who comes out.
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So like the first 15 people
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that come out, just get their
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ass kicked, thrown out.
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So the first the first guy was
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thrown out immediately.
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Well, it was Elias.
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His character is this guy who
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has a guitar and he sings
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sarcastic songs at people.
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I forgot I've watched wrestling
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a long time.
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So he comes out and he starts
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singing a song insulting Brock
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Lesnar. Of course.
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And so Brock runs out of the
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ring, grabs him and throws him
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out. Of course, of course.
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He had to be gone in two
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seconds. Yeah.
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And along the way, they give you
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like little moments of hope,
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like maybe a couple of people
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be able to work together and
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take him out.
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Of course.
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So it gets to like halfway
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through and all hope has like
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sort of been diminished.
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Right. And then finally, this
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big Scottish guy named Drew
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McIntyre comes in and
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there's other guy Ricochet
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kicks Brock Lesnar in the balls
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and then gotcha McIntyre
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kicks Lesnar out of the ring.
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Perfect place goes crazy.
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Perfect.
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And what you realize, like
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sort of in hindsight, is like
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they had to do all this stuff
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that's kind of unsatisfying and
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a little bit like, oh,
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disappointing in order to get
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you to enjoy when
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McIntyre does.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Lesnar out.
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So in hindsight, I kind of
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enjoyed that. And then the rest
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of the the people who came out
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like, you know, it is what it
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is for the rest of the Rumble.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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But they had a guy, Edge, who's
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a wrestler who's around back in
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the Attitude Era and like back
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when I was watching way back.
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Yeah, I remember it.
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Yeah, he was the rated R
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superstar.
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Yeah, he was.
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And he had like a really,
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really traumatizing neck injury
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about 10 years ago.
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OK. And he had to retire.
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And it was just like this
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horrible thing where, you know,
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he has this emotional
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retirement.
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And, you know, he loves
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being in that.
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He had some of the craziest
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moments from like back when I
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remember watching wrestling.
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He and Christian,
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these two guys were a tag team
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and they had these insane
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matches with the Hardy boys,
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like tables, ladders and chairs.
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Just things like you should be
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dead. The whole thing.
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You should be dead.
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I do this stuff.
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And so anyway, he had to retire
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and it never seemed like he was
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ever going to come back.
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And he came out in the twenty
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one spot in the twenty one and
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the whole place went apeshit.
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Yeah, of course.
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It was just out of control.
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Yeah.
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People freaking out.
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Amazing.
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But what I found really amazing
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about it was like if like
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watching the moment when he
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comes through the fog,
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the smoke machine that he has,
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he looks almost like he's going
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to cry.
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Yeah.
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Like just this moment.
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Absolutely.
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I am back doing this thing.
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There's a put wrestling aside.
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There's just such a human
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moment you can see in his face
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of like a stadium full of
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people getting to feel that
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moment again of like,
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this is what I was I was meant
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to do.
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I never thought I'd be able to
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do it again.
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It's just so universal.
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And it just like it is amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I remember Lou Gehrig did
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that ten years after he retired.
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Is that right?
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Take all of the bullshit
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about people not liking
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wrestling or whatever.
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It's fake.
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Whatever.
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Take all that out of it.
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Yeah.
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That moment,
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I think, makes up for like any
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kind of negative
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review you might have like this
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match is boring or whatever.
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Yeah.
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That makes a night.
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Being able to create that
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moment is far more valuable
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than putting on a 30
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person Royal Rumble.
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And it's not even like you're
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creating it.
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Life created that moment.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Being able to facilitate it and
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provide it.
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Right, right, right.
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Because as much as it is like
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this emotional thing for Edge,
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it's also for the people who
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love him and then missed him,
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you know, like as a performer.
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So that's that was great.
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Anyway, I have a lot of
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feelings about I have a lot of
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feelings about non-wrestling
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aspects of the Royal Rumble.
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The wrestling,
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very side side bar
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to your story.
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Some of the other stuff that
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happened was fine.
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Whatever.
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Anyway, there's a podcast where
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I know a bit about that and a
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lot about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about
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either.
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Right.
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So, Jordan, today we're going
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over the January 28th,
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2020.
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I'm Dan.
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This is 2020 episode of
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the Alex Jones Show.
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We're not doing this all year.
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Yeah, we are.
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I swear to God.
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Oh, you bet we are.
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I swear to God.
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I wanted to not do a present
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day episode because we've done
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a couple in a row and I
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think we all kind of get the
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sense that Alex is just going
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to be talking about the
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coronavirus and really
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exaggerating and being
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irresponsible about it.
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And a lot of chickens are
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going to get sick if they
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don't get that vaccine.
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Totally.
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It feels like almost like
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you're just beating the same
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drum and it's annoying.
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Right.
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And so I wanted to try and do
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something else.
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But man, I went down a lot of
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avenues and none of them
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were good.
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I listened to two episodes of
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Project Camelot where
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Carrie Cassidy interviews
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magicians and neither
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were any good.
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I just see now I feel like I
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have to go listen to them just
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to confirm for you.
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I never I never listen.
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But how can Carrie Cassidy
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fuck up talking to two
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magicians?
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Hey, man, you go one for two
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at least.
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Hey, you got the time.
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Go watch them.
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I don't give a shit.
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Fair enough.
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I'm confident in my assessment.
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All right.
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We'll do a reverse.
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All right.
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Yeah, I'm giving up
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climate change.
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A hundred percent fine with
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that.
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Only Project Camelot.
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Please do that.
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See if I give a shit.
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So anyway, we're here and I'm
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actually honestly pretty glad
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that I ended up being sort of
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backed into a corner with a
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bunch of like this is this is
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not a good thing to cover.
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This isn't going to work.
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And having to retreat back to
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the January 28th, 2020, because
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I think there are some things
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that are worthwhile in this,
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some having to do with the
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coronavirus, some having to do
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with other stuff.
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And we'll get to all that in a
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moment.
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But before we do, got to give a
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thank you to some people who
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have signed up and are supporting
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the show. So first, Sarah, thank
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you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Sarah.
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Next.
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This is appropriate for the
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Royal Rumble.
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Oh yeah.
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Samoa Joe, you are now a policy
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wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Samoa Joe.
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Well, no ball boy.
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Next thing.
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Because, now the control.
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Thank you so much, Morgan.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Morgan.
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Thank you, Morgan.
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Next, Brandon.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Brandon.
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Next, Kitty Unpretty.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much, kitty, I'm pretty.
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You don't need to be that self-deprecating.
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Maybe they're just a big fan of TLC.
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That's possible, that is possible.
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Next, Juice Man, number 32 Man.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Juice Man, number 32 Man.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who signed up on an elevated level,
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we appreciate that very much.
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So, first of all, Mason, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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Next, David, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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And Anthony, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare Infowar on you.
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Thank you so much, Mason, David, and Anthony.
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That sounds like Dave Anthony from Petallip is really into Mason.
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Yeah, it could be a 30-30 Greek.
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If you are a Mason, inducted into the Scottish Rite,
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and you would like to support the show that we do here,
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you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
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We would love it.
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Alright, so, we get down to business.
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Although, then again, I don't think our show should be funded primarily by Masons.
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I mean, if it's outside the auspices of their Masonic-ness, I don't give a shit.
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That's fair.
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You know, it's like they say, all money spends, or whatever.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, we start off the show, and Alex has some suspicions.
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Isn't it interesting that the coronavirus has been heavily studied
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by the Chinese Communist government, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,
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and through a sub-foundation that Bill and his father fund.
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Two years ago, they patented the coronavirus for use in a vaccine,
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and now they may be able to rush it into production to protect you and your family.
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Aren't we just blessed and lucky?
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Just last week, the media said there is no one working on a vaccine.
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It's a conspiracy theory.
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There are sites out there saying that there's government groups
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and others that have vaccines secretly developed,
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and that this has been staged to push vaccines on the public.
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But now, NBC News, J&J scientific officer,
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they're pretty confident they can create coronavirus vaccine as outbreak widens
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because they've got a bunch of patented viruses of it
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that have been patented for use in a vaccine.
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So you just mix it all up, and there it all is.
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You just mix it all up.
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So it's not suspicious that scientists are working on a vaccine
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for a novel strain of coronavirus that just appeared.
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No, that's exactly what they should be doing.
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Why wouldn't they be doing that?
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And it's exactly what you'd expect to see.
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It's based on the entire history of every situation that's ever happened like this.
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You can see here how Alex has incorporated that chicken vaccine patent
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into his narrative and laundered it, so now it's just accepted fact.
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This is often how Alex works, and it's one of the things
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that honestly is the most frustrating about doing this kind of work.
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If you aren't listening when the narrative launches,
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it's often completely impossible to track down what he's talking about
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because he just speaks in vague buzzwords that evoke something to his audience
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but lack any of the details you would need to confirm what he's saying.
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If you didn't know that he's lying about the Pure Bright Institute
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having a patent for a vaccine for poultry,
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it would be really hard to take the details of what he said in that last clip
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and trace it down and be able to learn more about what he's talking about.
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And that is an intentional strategy.
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He's now turned this into a talking point.
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The media didn't say that it was a conspiracy theory
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that people were working on a vaccine.
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Many of the articles that I've read in preparing for these episodes
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have mentioned that work was underway,
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but that it would take a while, if it was even really possible at all.
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Coronaviruses are notoriously hard to create vaccines for,
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and generally, doctors tend to take the approach of just managing symptoms,
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which are often the most dangerous part of the virus.
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For instance, in the case of SARS, it was often how it led to pneumonia.
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That was the biggest concern for medical professionals.
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Well, pneumonia is pretty much a catch-all for something done fucked up
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and now there's water in your lungs.
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So Alex is making up all that stuff about them having patents on the coronaviruses,
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which is allowing the scientists to do their work.
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There's an article in the New England Journal of Medicine from January 24th,
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which discusses a CDC investigation and research team going to Wuhan and collecting samples,
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from which they were able to identify the viral genome sequence of this strain.
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All the information is perfectly available,
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but Alex would rather yell about the Gates family funding animal disease research
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because it helps him build panic.
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His business model largely relies on his audience being scared,
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and events like this are basically his sweeps week.
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It's like a Super Bowl for him, and it's legitimately disgusting.
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That article that Alex is referencing is about Johnson & Johnson, or J&J,
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and how their chief scientific officer said he's confident that they could make a vaccine.
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Alex didn't read this article, hence calling them J&J.
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He's just reading a headline.
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There's nothing in that article that talks about them having patented viruses
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and just mixing them all up.
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In fact, the article explicitly says, quote,
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Stoffels, who's the Johnson & Johnson chief scientific officer,
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said that the pharmaceutical company needed to start from scratch on this vaccine,
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which kind of runs counter to the narrative that Alex is pushing.
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Yeah, but you know, when you bake biscuits from scratch,
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you have all the ingredients and you just mix them up, so that can still work.
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I'll still give him that one.
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Okay, I'm not, because really all this is is trying to heighten the mood,
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heighten the fear, heighten the panic, and then funnel it somewhere.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's very clear where that infomercial is going on this episode.
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We have had sources through the big food industry and through several major food suppliers
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that institutional groups, governmental groups, corporate groups, are buying up all the food,
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and that the food prices, raw food prices, are skyrocketing.
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Well, that indeed is now happening, and you're now seeing that in the news today.
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And Storable Food is selling out everywhere.
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Most of the big Storable Food suppliers are already sold out
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because they sold out to big institutional groups.
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My patriot that puts out Infowars Select, that's their entire line of food,
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just an Infowars sticker on it, still has food.
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They're still able to guarantee delivery within seven to nine days.
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Other people will tell you they can do that.
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I can tell you most of them won't.
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But that could change at any time.
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That means if you get your order in now, you will get it within seven to nine days.
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Oh my God, there's a crisis going on, and it's causing food prices to go up really high.
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But hey, call my patriot supply, they'll take care of you.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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All these other places, they don't even have any food to buy.
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You want to buy food, but you can't get it anywhere else.
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Fuck off.
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So interestingly, the U.S. Department of Agriculture just put out their
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Food Price Outlook report for 2020, and what do you know?
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It's the exact opposite of what Alex is saying.
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From the report, quote, the 2020 consumer price index forecast
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indicates a continuation of low inflation at grocery stores and supermarkets.
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In 2020, food at home prices are expected to increase in the range of between 0.5 and 1.5%,
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as potentially the fifth year in a row with deflating or lower than average inflating retail food prices.
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See, there's a 20-year historical average of 2% rise in food prices,
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so this is well within or even below that average.
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Given overall inflation factors, this could be a maintaining or even decreasing
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of point of purchase price for consumers within the United States.
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Relatively speaking, yeah, I gotcha.
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This is true of the United States, where Alex's primary market of listeners is located.
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However, it's not uniformly true in the world.
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For instance, India is currently seeing food prices jump considerably,
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with most experts pointing to oil price instability
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as being a major factor in the country's retail market inflation.
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Another major driver is the supply chain.
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To quote an article from Quartz India, quote,
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Prices of vegetables and many fruits were driven high because crop damages
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caused by excessive and unseasonal rains, which hit supplies.
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I can't imagine that many of these people in India that are affected by this
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are in the target market of Alex's food buckets, though, so I don't know how this relates.
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I think there's an opening, though. I think that's a new market to jump into.
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I would imagine not. I don't think you could afford Alex's shipping to India.
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Give Modi a call. See if he wants to start buying food.
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So there's also a recent article in the BBC about how Brexit will likely lead
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to higher food prices in the UK, and the people there would probably just need to adjust to that.
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But Alex is in favor of Brexit, so it doesn't seem like he would want to bring that up
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as a potential consequence of readjustment.
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Yeah, it does seem like Brexit is going poorly when after everybody's already agreed to Brexit,
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now they're getting all of these like, oh, yeah, your food prices are going to go up.
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This is going to go up. This is going to go up. I don't know if you guys knew this or not.
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Brexit was a bad idea. Hey, guys. Uh-oh. Yeah.
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So there's also been reports in Reuters about rising food prices in Wuhan during the quarantine,
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and I think that's a problem. I've not seen any numbers or hard information
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about the exact kind of rising prices, so it's kind of difficult for me to assess.
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But this is the kind of thing you see in most emergency situations, unfortunately.
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People gouge prices when they have the ability to do so.
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Like, just last week, you saw Uber and Lyft charging people insanely elevated rates
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after the shooting in downtown Seattle. There was increased demand,
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and so the price for the available supply rose. Like, in that case, it was the result of
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automated algorithms, according to the companies.
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Exactly. So, you know, it's not, like, malicious from a human standpoint,
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but it's just mirroring what happens with, you know, a lot of instances.
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Yeah. I mean, it's exactly what they desire, the free market. I don't.
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No. There are laws in place in the United States that forbid price gouging
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in situations when a state of emergency has been declared,
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but that law doesn't apply to other countries. And honestly, you can find a lot of people
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here in the United States that take the position that, like, if you are in the position
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to sell someone something they need to survive, you should be able to charge them
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whatever the fuck you want. These people are often libertarians, which Alex pretends to be,
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so I don't know what philosophical position he comes from where he's opposed to price gouging.
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Whatever is happening on the day he is for or against, and that is the end.
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Right. Anyway, my point here is that the rising food prices in Wuhan are a concern,
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and it's something that the Chinese government has made clear that they are aware of,
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and we will see what happens from there. The larger point here is that
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Alex is selling these food buckets not to people in Wuhan. He's selling them to people
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in the United States. He's trying to use the optics of that city in quarantine
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to push his products, which is disgusting.
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Yeah, and the underlying message is this is going to happen to you.
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Even if it's not happening now here, you can already know because the globalists
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are using this to take it worldwide and kill 56 million people.
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Sure, and that may not be an underlying message a little bit later in the show.
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Yeah.
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It might be an explicit message.
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And it does seem odd that you would be selling food buckets if previously
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we've already confirmed that the world has already done and the human race has ended.
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Oh, yeah, Mike Adams did say this.
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It's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors.
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So, I mean, that's why you need the food buckets.
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That's why you need the food, yeah. You want to be one of the lone survivors.
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This all still makes sense.
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Again, Mark Wahlberg.
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So, Alex, he's talking about these rising food prices
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and his food buckets being the solution to it.
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So, it's kind of funny that he ends his plug like this.
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We have the lowest prices you're going to find from MyPatriot
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or any of the distributors at InfowarsStore.com.
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In fact, we were way lower than all of them.
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But they called yesterday and said, look, our prices have gone way up.
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You're going to have to raise it up to at least this point.
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But InfowarsStore.com has the lowest price you're going to find
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on the high-quality food from MyPatriotSupply.com.
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The order just goes to them every hour and then they ship it out right there.
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And then that also funds the Infowar, which is a 360 win.
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But the big deal is that according to the UN's own definition,
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the coronavirus is now a global pandemic and obviously it's synthetic.
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Okay.
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Obviously.
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Right.
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Obviously.
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Sure.
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Obviously.
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Totally.
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How could you not know that it was synthetic, Dan?
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I love how Alex's plug for the food buckets was based on the idea that food prices are going up.
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So there's the solution to that.
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And it ends with him saying that the prices of his food buckets are going up.
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Well, I mean, food prices are going up, Dan.
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Sure.
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Given that the Department of Agriculture has said that food prices are not projected to go up,
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it seems like some of the narrative he's doing, this might just be a rationalization for him rising prices
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so he can make a little money, which he's been clear he's not been doing lately.
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That could be.
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No money's coming in.
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It is a good angle to take if you are looking at your sales and you're going like,
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ooh, the food is down.
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If we got a virus, guess who can't eat food now?
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Right.
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And if you're not making money at the current rate of sale or whatever,
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one of the strategies you could employ is rising margins.
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Yeah.
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So this might be a rationalization to raise margins to make money without having to say that's what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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Seems maybe like that's the case.
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I'm not sure.
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Also, I'm not sure that the UN has a formal definition of pandemic that's really meaningful here.
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Alex may have wanted to say the World Health Organization, but he's just riffing.
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So his mind just plugged in the UN there, I think.
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Why not?
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There's a lot of controversy with the World Health Organization and their definition of pandemic.
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Many at the World Health Organization say they don't really have a definition,
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but they have descriptions of what constitutes a pandemic.
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And they all own the board game.
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That is true.
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Yes.
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Generally, the guideline that people go by is the six-phase model that we discussed on the last episode.
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Phase six in a pandemic is the - well, it's the pandemic phase in an outbreak, which is characterized by, quote,
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virus causing community-level outbreaks in at least two World Health Organization regions.
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According to that definition, the coronavirus outbreak does not constitute a pandemic at this point.
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There is a community-level outbreak in China, but we do not have evidence that is the case in any other region where there have been cases confirmed.
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So even if Alex wants to talk about the World Health Organization's definition, it doesn't apply.
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But it turns out that he's not talking about the UN definition.
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He's not even talking about the World Health Organization definition.
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Here's what he's talking about.
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So the definition of a pandemic from Merriam-Webster dictionary.
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You can also go to the major medical sites occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exponentially high proportion of the population.
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What's exponential mean?
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Go to Merriam-Webster. They'll help you out.
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Well, it means that the pathogen -
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No, don't do this.
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- is exponentially -
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Stop it.
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- logarithmically doubling -
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No, this is not going to go well.
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- every time it's able to replicate and spread.
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People use the word exponentially to just mean something is growing rapidly, like in the colloquial sense, but it does have an actual meaning that Alex definitely doesn't know.
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It means that growth is characterized by this multiplication, not by doubling.
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At the first interval, it's just the base growth rate.
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At the second, it's that rate squared.
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At the third, it's that rate cubed, and so on.
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Typically, in the early stages of viruses spreading, they do sometimes tend to show exponential growth until there's a countervailing force against it, like a vaccine or some sort of an intervention method.
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This is not really all that controversial, but it's a little strange to recognize that Alex doesn't know what the word exponential means.
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Also, the Merriam-Webster definition of pandemic has literally no bearing on what the World Health Organization or UN might declare to be a pandemic.
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Alex can't use this dictionary to pull some kind of a gotcha on this one. It doesn't work.
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I don't know. I'm pretty sure he nailed it.
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Also, get this.
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By the definition of pandemic, I added the point about exponential because that's what they really call a raging pandemic.
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Merriam-Webster.
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It's just exponentially growing.
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The definition was occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exceptionally high proportion of the population.
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Alex just added the word exponentially because he wanted to.
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He's like, by the textbook definition, I'm going to throw words at there. I'm going to change the definition.
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The mind boggles at how bad you can really be at something. You can be so bad at it and still get millions of dollars. That's infuriating.
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What's fascinating about how bad he is at it is he's bad at hiding the badness.
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It's somehow just like, it's fine if I just admit I'm just throwing random words that change definitions.
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Doesn't even matter.
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Who cares?
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Doesn't even matter.
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He's bad and sloppy.
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So he's creating fear about this outbreak, certainly.
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But one of the other things that he's doing is he's now at the stage in his coverage where it's important to pivot this fear into what's going to come.
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Because he knows that eventually he won't be able to make money on this forever.
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And so he does that here.
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In China, you've got a lot of rundown people and a lot of pollution.
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And whenever these viruses break out there, they have a higher kill rate in China than they do in other parts of the world.
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Still, it's a terrible thing.
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But it's the response to it and the vaccine they've got in the wings.
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I've got articles here where they're saying, oh, Google and Facebook are blocking liars claiming that this was made in a lab and that they've got a vaccine for it.
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It's part of a larger plan. Who wouldn't speculate like that with the long histories of secret testing on the public by this government and others?
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And the tainted vaccines and the things they've been caught adding and Salk admitting they put cancer viruses in it and said, oh, there's too many people anyways.
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I can play PBS interviews if you want to see them film.
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That was not Salk.
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Again, that was Hilleman in an interview.
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No, but he said he can play PBS.
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Saban.
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He can play the PBS clips.
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And in it, it does say, Salk does say there's too many people anywhere.
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Salk doesn't say shit.
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He says there's too many people anyway.
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In the clip that he plays and has played and there is his example, it's not Salk.
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Okay.
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Salk is not involved.
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All right.
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It's Albert Saban.
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Get your information right, Alex.
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And like, dude, yes, of course.
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I think that these places like Facebook, these platforms have a certain amount of responsibility to tamp down.
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For so long.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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To tamp down on some of the stuff that could be dangerous, that could lead to people being hurt.
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I think that it's totally fine.
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When Alex says, why wouldn't you speculate about this stuff?
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It's one thing to be speculative.
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It's another to be a liar who's trying to sell food buckets and weird pills.
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It's not the same thing.
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No, Facebook isn't a quashing posts on Facebook where it's like, I'm suspicious of the government.
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They are quashing malicious actors like Alex Jones.
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Misinformation is different than what like, Hey, you know, we should be cautious about this.
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Informed opinions are different than aha.
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The Chinese are doing this as a bioweapon release in order to, you know, like it's different.
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Informed opinions are usually better than, we're all going to die.
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And I think this next clip is actually really clearly demonstrative of why Alex is not just being suspicious and speculating.
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Yes, this virus is deadly.
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It's not like SARS and things that were just to hype up and scare people.
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Why not?
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A few hundred.
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This has already killed thousands and thousands.
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What?
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It's pouring out, the Chicoms can't contain it, the censorship isn't working, and it does have a high kill rate.
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Hell, if it's 5%, it's devastating.
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Lancet says it can be high as 18%.
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According to a BBC report from January 28th, the day of this episode, the confirmed death toll is currently at 106.
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Conversely, SARS killed 778 people.
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But another important aspect of that is that there were deaths in 17 different countries from SARS,
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as opposed to the current situation, which has been entirely in China.
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A death is a death, that is true.
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But from the perspective of like gauging the spread of a virus, it matters a lot where the deaths are happening.
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If they're in a bunch of different countries, it demonstrates a different situation.
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Alex is completely outside the accepted reality with his claim that thousands and thousands have died from this outbreak.
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I suspect that he's getting this information from noted Muslim hater Pamela Geller's website,
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where she posted a breaking story about there being 10,000 dead.
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According to FactCheck.com, this story was sourced from a blog post on a website that's largely about gold,
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quote, which has a disclaimer that says it can't vouch for the accuracy or completeness of its information.
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Now that is a big disclaimer.
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Quite, quite big.
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I would say the, I think we might be lying, is a huge disclaimer.
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Might be bullshit.
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Yeah, this website, JSMineset.com, had published an email an anonymous person sent them
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who was relating a phone call he'd had with a friend who had spoken to a Chinese friend who had information from family in Wuhan.
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If you're keeping track, at best, this is fourth-hand information at the point of this blog posting it.
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The alleged family in Wuhan is first, the Chinese friend is second, the friend on the phone is third, and the anonymous emailer is fourth-hand.
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And then Pamela Geller, using this site as a source, makes it fifth-hand information on her site.
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No one who operates a legitimate news or information outlet would ever accept this kind of work.
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It's just gossip, basically.
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She will be testifying in the impeachment hearings, though.
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The Republicans have chosen only her to testify.
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Would not be surprised.
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Alex is misusing the information also in that Lancet article that he's talking about.
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In the actual article, researchers examined 59 cases of people who'd been admitted to a Chinese hospital with pneumonia symptoms,
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which they then whittled down to 41 cases who also tested positive for the novel coronavirus.
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All of them had pneumonia, which indicates that these are all the most severe sort of cases among the larger population of people who come down with the virus.
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Just on this count, this is not a fair study to extrapolate to the entire population, or even the entire population of people who come down with the coronavirus.
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No, no virologist would be like, 41? That's enough of a test.
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No, that's a limitation.
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And none would take that information that is provided in this paper and then say that it -
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It is uniformly true all the time.
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For all sorts of cases.
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The report does say that there's a 15% incidence of patients in that 41 sample size who died, which is six of them.
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However, 28 individuals, or 68%, were covered and were discharged from the hospital, but Alex doesn't want to point that out.
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Also, it's hard to say if there's any direct parallels here, but of the sample set that they had,
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15% of the patients also had pre-existing hypertension, and 15% had a history of cardiovascular disease.
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Based on the information available in the report, I can't say if those are all the same 15% of the people,
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but it's just to illustrate that there are commingling variables that Alex isn't considering and make this a different picture.
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Right. I don't think anybody thinks that most -
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I mean, maybe I'm way off base since we're dealing with Alex and people believe anything,
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but in most viral cases, nobody is saying that the most healthy members of society are going to instantly die if they get this coronavirus.
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It's generally the elderly and children.
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Generally, that's most - well, regular people are saying that.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Alex, it's unclear.
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I was like, nobody believes that, and then I was like, no, never mind.
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Alex is saying straight up 15% of the people, or 18% of the people who get this are going to die.
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Anyone. Anyone. 18% of everyone.
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Also, the report even says, quote,
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With the limited number of cases, it's difficult to assess host risk factors for disease severity and mortality with multivariable adjusted methods.
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This is a modest-sized case series of patients admitted to hospital.
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Collection of standardized data for the larger cohorts would help to further define the clinical presentation, natural history, and risk factors.
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To put that more succinctly, what they're saying is, this is a small group that we looked at,
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and we'd need more information to know if any of this could be explained by other variables about the specific people that we looked at,
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or whatever impact that might have had on the results.
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Yeah, see, this is where we get into trouble again with scientists.
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Like, yes, I understand what you were saying, and I indeed understand your interpretation of what he was saying,
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but ultimately, let's boil it down still further.
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We don't know yet. We've still got more work to do.
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Sure.
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We don't know yet.
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Interestingly, even this study doesn't say there's a death rate of 18%. It says 15%.
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This, again, is another example of Alex being unable to stop himself from exaggerating, from lying to make his narratives more severe.
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He strips literally all context from this Lancet report and exaggerates its conclusion,
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while simultaneously blindly reporting as gospel some dumb fifth-hand bullshit Pamela Geller posts on her blog.
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This is just embarrassing and dangerous work here, and he should be ashamed of himself. This is awful.
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I don't even like the use of a percentage whenever you're dealing with such a small sample size.
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I would prefer a fraction, because 15% people go like, oh, well, 15 out of 100, not 6 out of 40.
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So it's one of those things where it's like, it's not workable information.
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I don't know how you're going to man shape that.
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Yeah, exactly. 6 for 40.
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Hey, studies.
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Hey, when we get to 100, you can use percentages. Until then, it's fractions all the way.
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All right. Fair enough. When you're in charge, that's what we'll do.
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That's rule number one.
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So Alex has some pretty severe news about the United States and this virus, and I don't think what he's saying is true.
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I haven't made this announcement yet, because I don't know how to make it,
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but if you go to infowars.com and you see the live feed headline, it's official, this is now a global pandemic.
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Coronavirus is now a global pandemic, but what does it say right after that?
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U.S. officials believe that the virus has already broken out of containment on the West Coast in major cities.
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What?
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When was it in containment on the West Coast?
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They believe it.
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Now, I'm saying believe it.
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That's not really what they said. They said something else.
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I'm just saying, I'm saying they believe.
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They believe it's been in containment with Chinese students that came in after the Chinese New Year,
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and they're preparing for massive emergencies and are trying to figure out how to announce this to the public,
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and I don't want panic.
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Oh, shit.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, shit.
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I can find literally no evidence for anything Alex is saying here other than his own words.
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As of this recording, there are five cases confirmed to the virus in the United States,
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and all of them had been people who had been to Wuhan.
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There's no evidence that there had been any person-to-person transmission in the United States.
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I have a particular disrespect for Alex saying that he doesn't want to panic.
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Literally everything he's been doing is tailor-made to cause a certain amount of panic and a certain type of panic in people.
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When he says that he doesn't want to panic, he means he doesn't want people to lose their shit and start looting.
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He doesn't want that kind of panic.
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He wants a controlled panic he can profit off of.
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He wants to stoke just enough fear in his audience that he can get them to buy all his food and shit,
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but not enough that they start killing people.
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He is a calculated monster.
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That's the line he's trying to walk here.
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That's why he throws in things like, I don't want to cause a panic.
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He has to sort of try and reel it back in a tiny bit, but at the same time make it super sensational.
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So annoying.
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Because we know if we have ten days of panic, then people are going to start eating each other.
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True, true.
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He can't allow that to happen.
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No, you don't want cannibalism.
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Also, I want to put that on his gravestone.
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That's not what they said.
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They actually said something else.
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You can't even do that.
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That's unfair.
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That's punching me in the face and telling me you didn't.
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That's bullshit.
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That's just the example of him being bad at this bad thing.
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Well, they didn't say that.
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So this is just gross.
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They were saying it's fair monitoring and panicking last week to save 47,000 at it.
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Now the Chinese government today said 300,000 probably did.
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And that's just in Wuhan.
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So this whole thing is out of control.
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We need to be praying about it.
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And I tell you, there's no silver bullet to all of this.
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How about a vaccine?
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I personally have been taking vitamin D3 and vitamin K.
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Fuck you.
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It's great.
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You should always be taking it anyways in the winter.
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Great, great, great stuff.
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I mean, you could just see it's like it's clear.
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That's awful.
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If you listen to the show with any sort of a critical eye or ear,
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all you see is like, oh, all of this is like really getting ramped up
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and then you funnel it somewhere.
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Really funnel it.
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Oh, there's all these hundreds of thousands of people.
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Hey, you know, everyone's lying about this and what you need to do.
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Hey, there's no silver bullet, but you should buy it from my store.
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Oh, hey, food prices are skyrocketing everywhere.
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It's going to be a disaster.
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No one can find food.
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Get my buckets.
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It's a clear formula.
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Even used car salesmen looked out.
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No used car salesman is going to go out there and be like,
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hey, man, looters are going to light your car on fire.
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You better get it back up right now.
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Get it back up right now.
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Your car will be lit on fire tomorrow.
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And if not tomorrow, next week.
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Yeah.
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So it's the season of health,
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and that means that the health ranger is on every day now.
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Jesus.
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So Mike Adams stops in for a little visit.
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Shouldn't he not be allowed back on?
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He's already declared the end of humanity.
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You don't get better than that.
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It's it is a situation where he sort of blew the,
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uh, the sort of finale a little bit early.
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You wait till the end of the week.
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It should be a situation now where like Alex should be like,
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all right, we got like Adams on the show.
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He's a reporting live from a bunker deep underground where he's
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stocked up.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Uh, we got Mike Adams here who put his fucking money where his
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mouth is.
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He is at an undisclosed location.
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You won't even tell me where he's at because he doesn't trust me.
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He thinks I might get the coronavirus.
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As we all know, it only takes me five days to go cannibal.
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So let's see what happens.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, it's all very stupid, but, uh, he has a,
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they're just fear mongering. Like it's, it's really absurd.
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The global pandemic is here. I mean, it's exponential.
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It's large numbers and it's all over the world. Isn't that the definition?
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No, it is. It's a global pandemic.
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And by the way,
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the media in America is now complicit in the coverup that may cost
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millions of people their lives.
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The media will get people killed and the same media that pushes
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transgenderism, what are they going to do next?
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Push trans-viralism like the,
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self-identify as a person who doesn't have the virus.
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Hey, we don't need hospitals in California.
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Just be a trans-viralist person.
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That's how you know they are not taking any of this shit.
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That is, that is the most Teddy bears joke.
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That's a Matt Elfring character.
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His name is Teddy bears.
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His name is Teddy bears. No one listening is.
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I know. I know. It's just so funny.
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One person listening knows what you're talking about.
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He doesn't listen.
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No, I was talking about Druffki.
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Oh, okay. Yeah, that's true.
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Yeah. I mean, that's just like, just shit.
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I mean, you're just, you're just taking opportunities to get your weird social punches in.
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That means the...
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Transgender? What's next? Trans-virus?
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Yeah.
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Everybody? Nobody? Nobody's laughing?
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Good stuff. Good stuff.
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All right. I'm going to need another beer.
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Here's where Alex gets down to like, I think this is what he thinks the conspiracy is.
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This is dumb.
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You've been harping and so have I for more than three weeks that this could be a bio weapon release
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to bring down the global economy as a way to counter nationalism.
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And the globalists have said bad economies will hurt nationalists.
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That's not true.
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So everything is about them.
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They can't, they're incapable of understanding a larger world that isn't about themselves.
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I don't understand.
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Something like this virus outbreak is not just a natural phenomenon that people need to come together
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and try and mitigate the damages, help each other as best as possible.
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No, it's an attack on Trump and nationalism.
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This virus, this virus was released by the globalists in order to spread fear, panic, whatever,
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crash the stock market, which, you know, the dominoes, you keep seeing which one falls.
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Boom. At the end, Trump and nationalism are under attack.
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That's it?
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Yeah.
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That's it?
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It's so, I don't even know.
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Cynical doesn't even seem like the right word.
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It's just, it's such a disgusting, I mean, it's just narcissism.
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He is speaking for the shared experience of humanity.
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Most of us live in Austin in a mansion and make millions of dollars scamming people with,
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uh, with pills and shit.
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That's a normal thing.
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That's a human behavior that we all share, right?
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No.
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Oh, well then he's a narcissist.
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So Alex gets back to trying to sell food buckets because I really, I can't stress this enough.
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It comes up over and over and over and over again.
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It is just like a very consistent like marketing department gave him a call.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Basically they just know well enough to know like, this is good.
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We got to push up food sales and we got our chances.
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Our opportunity.
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I have sources in industry that have talked to all the big storeable foods, company heads
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and institutional buyers started last week buying up all the food they had.
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Then it exploded.
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And by Friday, basically everybody was sold out except a few suppliers that are amongst
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the biggest, like my Patriots supply that we private label from literally other places
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are telling you they're going to have storable food, but they're already sold out.
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My Patriot is boxing and making it as fast as they can, as it's fresh.
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When you get it through info or store.com, that helps fund us, but it's the exact same
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assembly line.
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Just our stickers are thrown on it in four select, and that was done before.
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So we can offer you an even lower price, but I'm not engaged in a plug here.
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As much as I am explaining that talking to the folks there, they said, yeah, it's big
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institutional buyers, not just us with other folks.
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Obviously you can't say who the customers are, but it's, it's governmental and things
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like that.
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It's corporations.
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And I said, let me guess the West coast.
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And they said, yeah, of course, West coast.
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And they said, sure, Seattle.
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Well, obviously that's the first place.
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That's the biggest Chinese cities, you know, here in the United States, Seattle, that's
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where all the students are at.
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Yeah.
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This is extremely disgusting.
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What's going on.
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This is so ridiculous.
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Alex is trying to spin a conspiracy that the Corona virus is going to explode on the West
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coast and Seattle due to the high Chinese population in Seattle, where apparently institutional
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buyers of food are storing up tons of stuff.
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So you need to act now by survival food buckets.
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Yep.
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That sounds right.
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There are a few problems with this theory.
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First Seattle has the ninth highest Chinese American population of major U S cities with
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approximately 30,000 Chinese citizens.
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Those are the ones, you know, compare that to the 562,000 Chinese Americans in New York.
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And you should get an idea of scale between first and ninth.
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Nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna send a bio virus out to New York.
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You start with Seattle.
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That's close to Portland.
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It'll get out.
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It's all over for the libs.
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Alex did say the West coast.
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So I'm going to take New York out of the equation.
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Let's consider that there are 180,000 Chinese Americans in San Francisco, 77,000 in Los
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Angeles, 75,000 in San Jose, 43,000 in Oakland, 34,000 in Irvine, California, all higher than
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Seattle.
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His shit about college students is nonsense too.
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The biggest school in Seattle is the university of Washington, Seattle, and they have a smaller
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Asian student body than UT Austin.
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Also, the case of the person who had Corona virus in Washington state that he wasn't a
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college student and he wasn't in Seattle.
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It was a man in his thirties who lived in Everett, Washington, who had been to Wuhan.
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Honestly, all this, what was he doing?
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Going to Wuhan business.
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No, I want to know the what's going on with this guy.
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Let's follow him up.
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Put his picture online.
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Jordan docks him bad idea.
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Okay.
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That sort of speculation makes more sense than what Alex is doing.
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I know.
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And it's still way wrong.
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Yeah.
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What this guy was doing in China is a more sensible conspiracy than this.
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Yeah.
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This all just comes down to make it trying to make Chinese Americans seem scary to Alex's
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audience and sell his food buckets.
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Yeah.
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That's never gone wrong.
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We've never treated an entire Asian population negatively in this country.
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Right?
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Certainly not.
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This is all just shit.
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This is an infomercial for the food.
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Yeah.
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This isn't it.
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And uh, also of course, looming in the background, the pills.
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Yeah.
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If you're getting the food, you might as well get the pills.
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Might as well.
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Mix it up.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah.
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Like a vaccine.
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So there's more conspiracies afoot.
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Mike Adams, you're a smart guy.
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Even mainline news is saying that it looks like the virus may have been stolen by chai
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comms.
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Sure.
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Canadian lab.
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Some of the same people were involved.
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It turns out in weird stuff with Ebola.
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Weird stuff.
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This sounds like a movie script for a horror movie.
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What do you really think is going on here?
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Well, isn't it interesting that what we were saying three or four or five days ago that
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was immediately called fake news by the mainstream media.
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Now they are reporting and confirming.
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So we weren't fake news.
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We were ahead of their news.
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Just to remind you, here's what Mike Adams was saying a couple of days ago.
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It's over for humanity.
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Lone survivors.
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Okay.
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He's really not bringing it on this episode.
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He's got some bad jokes.
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It's not going well.
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Yeah.
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Is that story Alex is talking about being mainstream news?
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It's not.
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It's bullshit.
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This all started with a guy on Twitter named Kyle Bass posting a CBC news story from last
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July, adding the caption, quote, a husband and wife Chinese spy team were recently removed
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from a level four infectious disease facility in Canada for sending pathogens to the Wuhan
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facility.
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This tweet was retweeted thousands of times and the story began to take traction in conspiracy
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communities.
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The only problem is the article that he linked to didn't say any of that stuff.
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That's not what they said.
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They said something different.
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Well, the two people who were taken out of the national microbiology lab in Winnipeg
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were suspected of making an administrative violation.
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And every organization that's involved in this matter, as well as the CBC reporting
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have stressed that nothing surrounding this case involves any kind of public danger or
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anything close to what this tweet is alleging.
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That must suck.
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Arrowhead started taking this as a launching point to start speculating that China stole
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the virus as a bioweapon and just caught fire in the dumb, dumb worlds of people who don't
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read.
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Yeah, that'll happen.
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These people are out for sensationalism and traffic.
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And the prospect of Chinese spies sending the very same virus that ends up causing an
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outbreak is a really good way to get eyeballs on your shit, but it's not supported by actual
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facts or reporting.
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To the point where someone like CBC is reporting, that you're reporting a couple of Chinese
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scientists to remove from a lab in July.
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That's fair game.
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This did happen.
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It's supported by available evidence.
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In order to come up with the rest of the stuff that people like Alex are saying about this
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story, you have to make up a whole lot of details.
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And simultaneously you have to insist that everyone who's commented on this story is
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lying.
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This is just shitty stuff.
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That's frustrating.
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There is no conspiracy he won't latch onto.
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It's just terrible.
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Just such bad work.
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God damn it.
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They will leap upon anything, any desperate thing.
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Just one tweet, the right wing machine will find it and they'll turn it into something
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insane.
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Yep.
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If it works.
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Yeah.
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If it works.
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Three million illegals voted.
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Fuck off.
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Right.
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So, uh, you might ask at this point, you know, like, Hey, why isn't Trump doing anything?
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I don't know why you would ask that.
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It's broken containment in Seattle, right?
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Why isn't he stopping flights from China?
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Why isn't he doing anything?
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Because they didn't vote for it.
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Wow.
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No.
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Turns out Mike Scott, Mike knows what's up.
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Why isn't Trump saying no, sorry, no Chinese coming into the United States while we see
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how bad this is for say a week or so.
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Exactly.
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It's a huge question.
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And my criticism of the president on this issue comes from two different vectors here.
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Number one, the president is, he's a very successful business person, very intelligent
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person, but he does not have experience in epidemiology or virology or laboratory analytics
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or, you know, healthcare issues on experts who are no doubt lying to him.
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And everything's okay.
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So when this goes south, he gets the blame.
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That's exactly right.
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And since he doesn't have the background in this area, he doesn't know how to ask the
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right questions or demand the right evidence.
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They're making this up.
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It sounds like, uh, Trump is going to need a, to a point, a new health ranger.
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Yeah.
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Oh God.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's all just made up.
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There's nothing behind that.
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No, that's yeah.
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Trump isn't doing anything cause his advisors are lying.
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They are lying to him.
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Yes.
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Obviously, you know that only I, the health ranger who have deemed humanity over right.
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What's up.
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It does seem like he he's, he's planning for a future that doesn't seem to be a also part
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of his plan for the future.
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So that's the one vector that Mike has to criticize the only one vector that was one
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of the vectors.
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His expert friends, I guess your advisors are lying to him.
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Yeah.
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That's the one vector, which is so much worse.
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And secondly, I think that Trump is very much concerned that any loss of faith in the stock
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market could impact his reelection chances.
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So, you know, a bubble market depends on irrational exuberance and you know what shatters irrational
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exuberance is fear, fear of the unknown.
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That's what causes people to sell stocks.
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None of the stuff that Alex and Mike are saying is connected to reality at all.
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But I think this clip is really interesting.
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You have Mike basically saying that Trump isn't taking the Corona virus outbreak seriously
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because he doesn't want to hurt the stock market and thus hurt his chances for reelection.
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Mike Adams, Trump will let millions die to get a reelected.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Even in their fantasy world where they're bending over backwards to defend an indefensible
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president, they still have to fall back on excuses like Trump would act to protect the
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health of American citizens.
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But his personal interest in reelection is more important to him.
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Yeah.
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To stand up for honest everyday Americans by letting a large number of them die in order
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to facilitate his reelection.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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It's clips like this that just make me think that these people have no idea what they're
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even saying.
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No.
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Like they're openly expressing support for a leader who would risk the lives of the entire
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country if it means holding onto power.
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And yet somehow they point the finger at the left as being obsessed with holding onto power
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at all costs.
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Yeah.
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I mean, their fantasy world doesn't even make sense.
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It's absurd.
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Yeah.
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Mike Adams.
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And then, and then the obvious like explanation of how to exploit the bubble economy is very
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frustrating to me.
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That's a, that should be illegal to admit that.
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It depends on irrational exuberance Dan, which means no rational person would think it's
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a good idea.
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Well, so Mike, Mike, Mike, he's just making so much shit up.
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Like this is all made up.
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I want to stress that before we even listen to this clip, there is nothing to back this
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up.
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It is Mike's ideas, fantasies.
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Well, as I mentioned yesterday on your show, Alex, I believe that they were working on
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this strain and they, they were not yet ready to release it.
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Why probably needed a few more tweaks to make it more deadly, but it got out before they
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were ready to release it.
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I don't believe they would have released it in China on purpose.
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I think they would have released it in Africa, perhaps in North America or Mexico, China's
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not going to want to get the blame of this.
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Right?
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What?
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They're just making this up.
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None of that means anything.
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That's just like, Hey, this is what I feel.
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Isn't it more interesting if we talk about it like this, it was a bio weapon that they
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planned to release somewhere else, but it got out of the lab too early by accident.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It does seem like they're more spit balling script ideas.
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It does seem a little bit more like they're, they're tossing ideas back blue sky thinking.
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How are, how is everybody going to die on this damn thing?
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You doesn't need he's Mike.
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He put Ebola in his own bloodstream.
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He just said to other people, which is worse.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, uh, man, if you ever, if you need any indication that he's an opportunist, he's
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a crass piece of shit, just trying to sell stuff.
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This is, uh, is maybe as good as you're going to get because of what's happening.
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And I said, I couldn't do 50% off anymore because it doesn't give us the margins to
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fund ourselves.
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I'm not going to then when we have an emergency like this, raise prices on the products.
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In fact, I'm going to lower them even though these things will all sell out.
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And I'll tell you when her son's about to sell out in the next couple of days, it's
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selling out right now.
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Okay.
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Current sales rates immune.
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We can't get more for eight weeks, by the way, immune defense products, super silver
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toothpaste, 50% off super silver wound gel, 50% off.
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Got to have big sales now because you got to strike while the iron's hot.
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There's a situation that I can exploit to cause panic that leads people towards maybe
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wanting to buy the things that I have given better, which is move all this product.
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I'm going to use these as loss leaders and hopefully the profit margins on the food buckets
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that I am pushing real hard today.
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Maybe it'll all work out.
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Maybe it'll all work out for me.
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It's it's so obvious.
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Yeah.
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This is a bad grift.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's really pretty disgusting.
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Now we're done with Mike.
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Yeah.
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But Alex has another guest.
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This guy is a Holocaust denier.
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Right.
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He is someone who I don't even think you need to add that anymore.
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Now that we're in info wars season seven, I think we can just leave a Holocaust denier
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is assumed.
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It's at least lurking in the background of too many of his guests.
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He's a guy who has a made up resume and his name is Dr. Steve Pachannik and Alex, Alex
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has, here we go.
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Alex has him on for a reason.
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Yeah.
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It's not the virus to also declare the end of humanity.
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No.
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Oh, um, he's on to talk about John Bolton and what's interesting about that is Alex,
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it's clear he doesn't vet any of his guests or even the people who he knows really well
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because the spoiler alert, Steve ends up completely contradicting Alex's virus narrative.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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So that's not a great booking, but like I said, he's on to talk about Bolton and here
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is Alex saying that.
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I wanted to get Dr. Steve Pachannik on because he knows Ambassador Bolton and is aware of
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their neocon ways and, and, and Warren Trump at the time, I remember he was on a couple
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of years ago, was like, what the hell are you doing Trump bringing Bolton in?
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I have no idea if Steve actually knows John Bolton, although I can say that the last time
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Steve was definitely in the state department was prior to Bolton enter public entering
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public service.
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At that time, John Bolton was a lawyer at the firm of Covington and Burling.
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Also Steve did warn Alex about John Bolton and said, Trump can't allow him to be in the
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white house.
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And Alex didn't listen to him because Roger told him that Bolton was cool.
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Yeah.
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So you can trust, uh, you can trust Roger.
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I don't want to, I'm not going to give Steve a, uh, I'm not going to give him a point for
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this as a knee jerk, a hatred of all things, neocon, whatever.
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Anyway, Steve immediately, uh, pretty quickly gets to saying like, Hey man, uh, what they're
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doing with this virus outbreak is totally cool.
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President Xi appreciated what Trump had said about transparency in China, about the fact
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that she had done an appropriate, uh, seclusion of different areas and he, he, he tied off
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Hunan and Hubei, uh, because of the, uh, flu epidemic.
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Oops.
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Steve's, uh, Steve's whole point on the matter is there too.
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They're handling this appropriately and you shouldn't panic.
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They appreciate what Trump is doing.
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You don't need to worry.
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Trump appreciates them.
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It's a mutual appreciation.
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Humanity is going to last thousands more years.
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We're going to get to the stars and populate the entire galaxy.
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Gotcha.
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So a lot of Steve's appearance is just yelling dumb nonsense about how like the state is
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pointless.
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Sure.
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So we're not going to listen.
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We're not gonna listen to a ton of that, but there are some points that are kind of interesting
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like this one.
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What's really happening at this particular point is the absurdity of our representatives
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and how little they really do in a time of need.
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Right now we have a world epidemic.
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Is it going to affect America?
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Maybe yes, maybe no.
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Has there been a surgeon general appointed?
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I haven't seen any.
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Has public health service officers been appointed?
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I haven't seen any.
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Those aren't the house of representatives job, dude.
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Steve does make a great point though.
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He hasn't seen there be a surgeon general.
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No he hasn't.
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I wonder why, Dan.
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I wonder why too.
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It seems like somebody has the ability to appoint a surgeon general.
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I wonder.
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I mean Steve doesn't, he hasn't seen one appointed.
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Yeah, I don't think the house of representatives is really failing us on this one.
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I don't know.
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So Steve has this weird thing where he thinks that the newspapers talk to him and he thinks
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that he's speaking back to powerful people when he comes on Alex's show or he makes his
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YouTube videos.
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And I would generally err on the side of thinking it's like just sort of a flourish of language
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or something, but it's so consistent.
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Like in this next clip, he really seems to think like he's sending a message to Nancy
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Pelosi through Alex's show.
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Nancy Pelosi is basically what we call an idiot savant.
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We had to teach her on this show that we are a republic, not a democracy.
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So she went back and read all about the republic.
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He's really seems to be expressing that through Alex's show, they have taught Nancy Pelosi
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about the nature of a republic and she's gone and done some research on it.
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This is, this is seriously disturbed behavior.
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Yeah, that, that doesn't sound like any kind of rhetorical flourish there.
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That seems like he is remembering fondly a time when he taught Nancy Pelosi the rules
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of the republic.
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Yeah, I don't think that happened either.
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So Alex is having a good time talking to Steve.
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But you know, all good things must be interrupted when you need to make sales pitches, which
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he does.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I am not an opportunist, I'm a trendsetter.
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My goal is to promote the lifestyle and freedom and things that I think are great up against
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the tyranny that the globalists promote, because I believe you're going to want to buy in to
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having a free, open, truly constitutional, Renaissance based system or the American system
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versus the Chicom system or the EU, you know, return of modern nobility models or all those
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old systems.
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Like the ones Steve Botchanik wants?
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And so that's when Infowars promotes.
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Notice for the last few months, I'm saying, hey, our great vitamin D3 is known in all
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these big studies to really be antiviral and very strong and getting sunlight in the winter.
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It's getting sun that helps boost your immunity.
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And it's people that have the deficiencies that are open to this stuff.
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And again, knock on wood, I haven't had a fever in over four years, and it's because
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I take fish oil every day.
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That's illegal.
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Some of the best sources of natural vitamin D3.
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So yes, we still have our vitamin D3 with vitamin K, 33% off, even though it's very
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close to selling out.
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I'm going to keep it there till it sells out.
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So within a minute, he starts saying by saying, I'm not an opportunist, and then he's using
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this outbreak as an opportunity to sell his shit.
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It is the most infuriating verbal tick he has of starting every sentence with saying,
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I'm not, and then does exactly what you described.
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Hey, I'm not bragging here.
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I'm not an opportunist.
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Take opportunity.
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He's the ultimate opportunist.
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It's so annoying.
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That's a reference to Edge.
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Get out of here.
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Anyway.
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Bring me the cowboy that sings.
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Alex talks a little bit.
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He's not a cowboy.
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He was a drifter, but he's not a cowboy.
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Alex continues this, a plug.
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And honestly, I think I only kept this in because he says something that I think is
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funny.
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I can be in a bad mood, exhausted, already working 18 hours.
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I got to do some overnight radio show used to drink a half bottle of wine and drink four
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cups of coffee.
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That doesn't work for me.
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Big old juicy fish oil gross.
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So good.
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And it makes you sleep better.
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It's the stuff that does for your body is really amazing.
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First of all, it's juicy fish oil, which is a ridiculous, disgusting, disgusting, man.
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It gives you energy and makes you sleep.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Sure.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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So, um, this mic down for this clip, because this Steve comes back in and he has something
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to say about this Corona virus.
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Oh boy.
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And this clip is art.
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This is a master stroke of Steve Pachannik using language.
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This could be an Agatha Christie.
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Okay.
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All right.
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All right.
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We have a Corona, a Corona virus coming in for the most part, we will be safe.
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I can guarantee that the reason I can guarantee is because I treated a patient a month ago
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was the really the first case of the Corona virus before it was ever reported of a gentleman
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who met with a Chinese individual and got the pneumonia and was treated with high doses
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of antibiotics.
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And I am to know this individual very well, because that individual happens to be me.
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I'm the first case to have it in the United States.
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And now I'm saying to the public health service and the attorney general, get your act together.
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Steve Pachannik is patient zero, the Corona virus fucking lost his mind.
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This is now the point where we just say, Oh, you're fucking crazy.
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Oh yeah.
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No, we're well past that.
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I know we're past that, but when you're claiming that you treated yourself for the first case
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of this Corona virus, everything that's important, every relevant world event, Steve is at the
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center of it.
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He is not only the first person that got Corona virus, he also cured himself.
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I just, I just can't hang with that.
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I can't.
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That's that one's bananas.
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It's amazing that that needs, that needs a, that, that needs a commitment.
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He needs to be committed.
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It's amazing.
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Like he says stuff like this and Alex is just like, yeah, man, you're amazing.
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So anyway, Steve took issue earlier with the fact that there is no surgeon general.
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And what do you know?
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Alex starts repeating that claim.
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Trump shouldn't create a panic, but I agree he should have a, a, a, a, a surgeon general
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by now.
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And they should say, we're looking at this.
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And, and, and so if something is really bad, then they don't look like they were caught
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flat-footed man.
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I mean, it is a really interesting point that now, like Steve has brought up that there's
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no surgeon general and Alex, because Alex, or because Steve has said it, he's repeating
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it as like, that's a real criticism, Jordan, the surgeon general is named Jerome Adams.
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He was confirmed by the United States.
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Yes.
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He was confirmed by the Senate on August 3rd, 2017.
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If you want to make the point that he's not doing a good job, go ahead, do it.
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But to pretend somehow that the bureaucracy is making sure there is no surgeon general
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is stupid.
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Both of these dudes don't even know that there is a surgeon general.
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You don't even know that he's a real person.
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Have you seen him in person?
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I've seen pictures.
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Oh, Oh, pictures now, Mr. Big picture guy.
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Let me tell you something.
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Those can be faked.
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Dude.
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Steve Prochenik was in those pictures and they took him out.
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Steve is coming in and making an argument.
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I haven't seen that there's a surgeon general and now Alex is like doubling down on it.
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Neither of these dudes even know anything.
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They don't know anything about what they're talking about.
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There is a fucking surgeon general, you dumbasses was the first patient who I don't know how
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you can listen to a man say confidently and just so proudly, proudly.
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I was the first man with this global pandemic months, months before it became an outbreak.
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It's even better in Wuhan China, even better than that, because like, I can't stress enough
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how great the storytelling of that clip was.
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The I treated the first patient and I know this man very well because it is me.
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It's just, there is a, there is a certain level of pageantry to it that I appreciate
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it.
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Yeah.
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That person is me if Steve had just said I was the first person who got coronavirus boring.
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You wouldn't believe that shit at all.
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Fuck off.
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This is, this is a master.
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This is the way you do it.
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Oh, you treated him personally.
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Tell me more about this.
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Oh shit.
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It was you.
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This is a twist that I could not have seen coming at night.
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You've done it again.
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Gorgeous stuff.
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Oh, so anyway, Alex has been reading Merriam Webster's dictionary and adding words to definitions
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in order to prove that this is a pandemic.
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And then he has Steve Pachannik, who is, uh, you know, an expert according to Alex on all
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things.
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And uh, oh, let me assure your audience and the American audience, we're not pandemic.
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We have control.
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This, this will be controlled.
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I don't want everybody panicking.
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Oops.
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Shut him up.
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Shut him up right now.
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Yeah.
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We shut him up.
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We can let him say that he was the first patient.
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I don't want anybody panicking.
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Fuck off.
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You're lying about having a this and curing yourself.
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That's one thing you were the contradicting.
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It's a pandemic.
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That's bad for business.
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That's brutal.
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But I think Steve recognizes that maybe he's contradicting some of the narratives that
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Alex is using to try and drive sales.
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And so he decides, I'm going to go ahead and also help you sell pills.
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I think all of that you're saying is correct.
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Take the vitamin D, take the fish oil, stay healthy, and you're less likely to get an
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pneumonia because the key, you don't want to get a pneumonia getting pneumonia or coronavirus
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is the immunity system.
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So as long as your immunity system, even if you're at 60, seventies or you're young and
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you're in good shape, you take your vitamins, you work out, you stay healthy.
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That virus is not going to be lethal.
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So that's number one.
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Number two, the fact that we don't have a surgeon general and a public health service
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is disturbing.
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We do have a surgeon general.
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This whole thing is based on a faulty premise.
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Yep.
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I guess we don't have to worry about it then.
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I guess so.
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Steve.
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Yeah, man, he has done everything.
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He really seems to have every single thing that has happened since like the mid seventies.
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Steve has had his finger in.
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Yep.
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He was also the first person to get HIV cured that absolutely he did have a play in another
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outbreak recently.
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Of course, of course he did.
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And this one, boy, this is, this is a big swing years ago when we had the Ebola epidemic.
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I had to sit down with a former friend of mine and ask this individual who was the former
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assistant surgeon general of the United States, do we have a surgeon general?
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The answer was no.
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Do we have a public health service that can stop the Ebola from coming in?
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No.
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Will you have a problem if I ordered General Dempsey and others to send over 3000 U.S.
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Army, General Dempsey and Sierra Leone?
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The answer was no.
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That's what we did.
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And I thank our military.
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I thank General Dempsey, who was chief of staff at the time in our army and our military
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officers who created a situation where there was no Ebola really coming into the United
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States and they redeployed assets out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Steve.
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And do you know who all that old friend was, Dan?
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It was me.
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Steve told the chief of staff to deploy.
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Steve was given orders.
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So I ordered the general.
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Right.
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This dude is fucking wild now.
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He's gone off the rails.
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Oh, totally.
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This is crazy.
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No, but he's, he's very high functioning within this, this web of bullshit that he's spinning.
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So it makes it much more difficult to, uh, for Alex to pinpoint like where there's like,
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this is a clear break from reality or just a malicious lie.
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It's one of the two and Alex just isn't equipped to deal with it.
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You know, I actually ordered Tom Brady to lose in the playoffs.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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I ordered him to do that in order to get him the Wuhan virus and he dropped it in Wuhan,
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which is ironic because we had already named it that way before.
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Right.
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And like, I guess without Steve, we would have Ebola everywhere.
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So that's great.
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I'm glad that he stopped Ebola.
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I really, I really sometimes have a hard time keeping that information in my mind when Steve
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says something like that and then you repeat it back to me mere moments later, I'm like,
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he couldn't possibly have said that anyway.
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Steve has a prescription for what we need to do.
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My point is simple.
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Do not panic.
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We have everything in control.
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Now President Trump, get your act together, assign somebody as a Surgeon General and create
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a public health service or appoint the military, the Secretary of Defense, Esper to mobilize
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military so that we have a convenient way to control what comes in and out of our country.
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So I guess his angle is you got to either get a Surgeon General, which we have, or deploy
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the military to police the borders.
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That's not good.
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Okay.
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That, uh, can you imagine what these morons would say if they did deploy the military?
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Well, if Trump did, they'd be fine.
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Oh yeah, that's true.
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Yeah, that's true.
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But if another government did, they would, they would lose their fucking minds.
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Very against it.
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Yeah.
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Um, so this is all stupid.
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Steve's whole thing is very dumb and, uh, but he has a third possibility.
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You got either a Surgeon General, military at the border, and actually it's not a third
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option.
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It's actually like what we also need to do.
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And at the same time, without getting panicked, go to the various universities and assess
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how many Chinese Oriental students we have, not to deport them, just simply to know what's
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going on.
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Oh yeah.
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That seems like a real good thing to do.
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I'm telling you, Dan, just cataloging every member of a certain race has never worked
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out poorly.
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Yeah.
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I want names and addresses of everyone of a certain race.
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Yeah.
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I think that's bad.
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That's probably bad.
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And certainly I don't trust that sort of thing coming out of the mouth of somebody who calls
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them Orientals.
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Yeah.
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That's not good.
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I was, I was really, it's to me, I was really struggling with that one.
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Yeah.
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That's that's no good.
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Steve can, can, I mean, you know, add to the first person we need to focus on is miss Saigon.
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We need to make sure she's taken care of.
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All of my information about the East comes from musicals.
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It's a, it's weird, man, Holocaust denier, uh, antiquated racist.
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Steve is mess, but I'm glad he survived that brush with the coronavirus.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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Anyway, he's a, he's done.
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It's largely him yelling nonsense about the, uh, the like, uh, John Bolton's a pathological
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liar.
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And I don't really care.
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No, I don't care to hear his perspective on that.
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Absolutely.
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That is what it is.
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I want to, I want him to be set down in a deposition style thing and just ask just peppered
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questions about historical events just to see where he thinks he fits in.
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I bet he would know a lot of like details about a lot of stuff.
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Sure.
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Absolutely.
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I'd rather hear him claim to have done it.
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Oh yeah.
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That's what I want.
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Oh, that would be amazing.
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Oh, just a long form video.
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I think we could bang out enough to get him committed for the rest of his life in two
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hours max.
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So Steve is done.
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And at this point I like, I should reveal like one of the things that I really wanted
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to do this episode for is because on the 27th news broke that Wolfgang Helbig got arrested.
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Yes.
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It was a guy who Alex had on many times and it was the basis for a lot of Alex's reporting
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about Sandy Hook.
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I'm sure Alex had a lot to say about it.
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Wolfgang Helbig got arrested because he had gotten Leonard Posner's personal information,
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his ID and his social security number and was sending it out to people.
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Yeah.
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That's that.
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If that wasn't a crime, I'd be real mad.
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Now it's an interesting theory that I think is possible, but I have no idea if this is
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the case.
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On a recent episode, Alex said, get ready for bad news about me to come out.
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He'd been building this up and I think it's within the realm of possible that Alex was
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one of the people that Wolfgang might have sent this information to.
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I don't know if that's true.
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That's pure speculation on my part, but it seems to me within the realm of possibility
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that Alex might have known that Wolfgang might be getting arrested.
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I think he's connected to a lot of people.
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Even if he wasn't one of the people who Wolfgang contacted, it's possible that Wolfgang contacted
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somebody else who knows Alex and told Alex.
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There is a possibility that he was aware of this and he knew that when Wolfgang Helbig
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gets arrested, his name is going to be brought into it.
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I kind of thought that maybe Alex would touch on this.
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He doesn't.
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He doesn't mention it at all on the 28th.
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There's no mention or discussion of it at all.
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That sounds right.
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We'll have to wait and see if it ever enters the Infowars canon, but for now it does not.
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Steve's done.
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Alex finishes up the show and here he is being a dumb asshole.
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I'm going up in a helicopter in a little while to do a live feed.
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The show folks aren't as dangerous as they're saying that I'm going to be back in studio
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later.
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Powerful broadcast today.
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Great job crew.
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Great job crew.
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Motherfucker.
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What he's doing is- He goes out on a fucking Kobe.
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Yeah.
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He's going to go and film a special report where he's in a helicopter because, hey, look.
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There's a lot of people with positions on Kobe and without getting into any of that,
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what I would say is the voice that really we need to hear and the voice that no one
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is bringing to the table is the person who's defensive about helicopter safety.
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That is a real angle.
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I fucked up when I was reading the coverage of this.
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What I should have been reading about was whether or not people were more afraid of
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helicopters because of it.
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If there's one thing I know about this Kobe situation, it is that people are clamoring
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out for takes on helicopter safety, Dan.
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It's such a bizarre thing for him to fixate on.
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It is the weirdest thing.
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It's super bizarre, but it is a way for him to skirt any overtly distasteful things about
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Kobe's passing.
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Yeah.
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At the same time, he can get attention.
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I guess.
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Yeah.
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It's like a really cowardly way to still try and capitalize on the celebrities.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That is exactly what it is.
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Yeah.
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It is something that should have been shot down at the pitch meeting very quickly.
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No way.
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Hey, what's our take on this whole Kobe thing?
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Put you up in a helicopter?
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Helicopters?
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Good work.
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Love it.
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Yeah.
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I think that that should be illustrative of the sort of work that he's doing.
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What you see throughout this episode very consistently is trying to raise the temperature
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of people's feelings surrounding the coronavirus and then transmute that into sales, largely
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about food.
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The food buckets are primary on this episode, but also the pills.
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You see that.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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You see that.
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This is emptier than at least it was a long time ago.
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Yeah.
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This is really, really nothing.
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It's grim.
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I think that I might have not really even been super interested in doing this episode
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except for the fact that Wolfgang Halbig got arrested and Alex can't bring himself to even
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talk about it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then Steve and his crazy bullshit.
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That's wild.
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Yeah.
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He was the first person with it.
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Yeah.
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I still can't believe he said that out loud.
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I have a hard time believing that.
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I genuinely, on a very visceral level, I am resisting believing that a human being said
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that.
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That sort of thing is absolutely worth it in the same way that Edges Return makes it
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all worthwhile.
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The whole pay-per-view worthwhile, Steve's declaration, that's the Edges Return of this
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episode.
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Oh, man.
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I'll tell you who had the first outbreak of, I'll tell you who that was.
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It was me, Dan.
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And I directed the military to stop Ebola.
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Great patient and doctor all in one.
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Great Steve.
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Great.
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Jesus Christ.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It is knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We are also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at Knowledge Underscore Fight and at Go To Bed Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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And if you would like to listen to the show, go to iTunes or podcast apps, rate, leave
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a review, donate, do the whole thing.
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It'd be great.
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Yeah.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the juiciest fish oil.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Thanks for being here.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.