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I have great respect for knowledgefight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys
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saying we are the bad guys
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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight
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Andy and Candice
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stop it
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Andy and Candice
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It's time to pray
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Andy and Candice, you're on the air, thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller and I'm a huge fan
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I love your room
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knowledgefight
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knowledgefight.com
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes.
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We like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit
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about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan. Dan? Jordan.
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Did you have, did you use to watch
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Late Night? Did you have like a
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Late Night host? Were you a Conan guy?
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Or a Letterman guy? My parents wouldn't let me
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watch stuff that late. Oh really?
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When I was younger. Not really. Oh, okay.
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They had like some
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interest in sort of like the
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Saturday Night Lives of the past. Sure.
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Like old Saturday Night Lives, but more
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like Monty Python
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or Black Adder. That kind of
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stuff. Like my dad liked British humor.
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No
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Conan. We're going to do Black Adder
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though. Yeah, we're going to do a lot of Rowan Atkinson
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in the house.
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But that was all on like
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VHS tapes and stuff like that.
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It was a real time issue.
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Since it came on way past my bedtime.
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For most of my life. When I got a little bit
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older I guess I kind of gravitated towards
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Conan more. Yeah. But I would
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be lying if I said that I was super
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into it. Sure, sure, sure, sure. I'd be trying to
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take on the identity of a lot of people in
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comedy who really were deeply into it.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, in comedy that's a huge
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deal. Yeah, I preferred it to
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other Late Night, but I never
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watched a ton of it, so I can't really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You didn't have that like affinity for the
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Smigel years on 90s Conan and
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that kind of stuff. As I've gotten older
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and I've watched a bunch of the stuff
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after the fact. Sure, sure, sure. I
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understand why people would. Yeah.
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But I wasn't really on board with
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a lot of that. I was not
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deeply invested in the
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Leno vs. Letterman
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kerfuffle. What about the
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Leno vs. Conan kerfuffle later on?
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That was much more recent. Yeah. I think I can take a
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position on that, which is pro-Leno.
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Leno did nothing
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wrong. Hashtag.
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I have not heard many people
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express a pro-Leno position.
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Yeah, I'm edgy.
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No, I don't know.
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I liked
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stuff enough. Like I liked Letterman
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and Conan. The stuff I saw.
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Yeah. But not
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you know. Wasn't
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my main bag. Yeah, I
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assumed that it wasn't since we hadn't talked about
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it at all prior to this, but
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I thought I would see if you might have been a closet
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Letterman guy or something like that.
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I wish it was on some level. Like I
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do think like going back and watching
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a lot of that stuff is really hilarious. Yeah.
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There's a lot of really good work that was being done
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in those late night shows. Oh, absolutely.
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But for me to pretend now as a 35 year old
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man, like, yeah, background is 12. I'd stay
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up all night. Right, right, right, right. That would be
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disingenuous. So, I don't want to try and pretend.
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But I have a lot of respect for
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the craft and all that stuff
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in hindsight. Yeah, absolutely.
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So, as a podcaster
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I don't know a whole lot about
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watching Late Night Live.
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But I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I don't know much about either, Dan.
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Cool. Yeah. So, Jordan,
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today we're back in the past. Sure.
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We are going over April 23rd
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2013 and our
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continuing investigation of what the hell
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went on with Alex.
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Primarily in terms of calling
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the people who are the victims and survivors
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of Sandy Hook showing them actors. Right.
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Which has now dovetailed into the
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Boston bombing. We are
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coming out of that.
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And all that's resolved now.
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Really. I mean, Johar Sarnav
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is in custody. Oh, yeah, yeah. The Boston
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bombing. I was going to say. I don't think we've heard
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him actually say specifically. I apologize.
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I should have spoken more clearly.
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That investigation still ongoing.
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Very much so ongoing.
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And I know that there's more
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to learn about his response to
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the Boston bombing. But I also think
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that we have now entered the portion where it's like
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in the same way that
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Alex has a little bit of a come down once
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there's official information out.
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I'm experiencing a little bit of that, too.
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Yeah. Like he's just going back
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to normal, whereas we had a stretch
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of shows where it was like really
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dense lies in real
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time. Oh, yeah. He was turbocharged
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and just
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excitedly
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just chomping at the
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reality, trying to take a bite out.
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Yeah. This is my now.
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Yeah. And now we've kind of entered a phase
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where it feels like we're kind of back
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to a normal show here. We're experiencing
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the le petit more,
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if you will. It feels a little bit weird,
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but I still think there's some
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interesting stuff in here, but you'll notice
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a shift. You'll notice this feel a lot
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more like a normal Alex Jones episode.
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That shouldn't be allowed,
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right? Like in a TV show,
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if there's a groundbreaking moment, you don't
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allow them to just go back to
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normal. Well, I mean, I think he's probably
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exhausted. Yeah. He just changed the world
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by breaking the biggest story
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ever. You're going to have to
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three different times. Same story.
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Different stories
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about the same story.
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Yes. All broken. So we'll get
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down to business on this. But first,
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we got to take a little moment to say thank you to some people
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So, we jump in here, Jordan,
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and Alex is not talking much about the Boston situation
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at all at the beginning of this show.
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He's mostly complaining about Janet Napolitano.
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That seems to be what his,
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he's got some big gripes with the head
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of the Department of Homeland Security.
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Sure.
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Which makes sense.
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Don't we all, yeah.
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You could kind of see this as an offshoot
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of his feelings about Boston and the manhunt.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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It's disconnected, it's disjointed.
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He never brings it all together necessarily,
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but he's very mad about a couple of things
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that she has done.
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And one of them has to do with the DHS budget.
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A few months ago, and Erin Dykes wrote about this,
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Big Sis came out and she said in the press conference,
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she said, you will not cut our funding,
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and it was a cut in the growth of it,
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of more than 10% a year,
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or there will be more terror attacks.
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Now, let me ask you,
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is there a motive to let terrorism happen
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or provocateur terrorism or stage terrorism
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to get $200 billion a year domestically?
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And that's what this is.
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So this is some bad thinking on a number of levels.
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The first part of this is really terrible thinking
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is her saying, hey, you know, if we cut our funding,
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there's a greater risk of some attack happening.
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You could hear that as a threat, if you're crazy.
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And I think he's insinuating that what she means is
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we're going to stage more terror attacks.
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If you don't give us the money.
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If you don't give us the money, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, he thinks it's a shakedown.
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Right, right, right.
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As opposed to it being like,
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well, if we aren't able to fund our programs and all this,
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we will leave areas uncovered
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and there's a greater chance of somebody
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pulling something off.
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Yeah, this is a tone of voice error right here.
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It's a Alex thinks he can read magical words and people.
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And the second thing is that he's imagining
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that she gets that $200 billion.
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Yeah, it's for her.
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I don't, I think that the budget is a little too high.
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No, no, $200 billion to Janet Napolitano as she sees fit.
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I would say that there is definitely a fair conversation
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to be had surrounding the Department of Homeland Security
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and all of these things, the budgets of these things.
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I think that that you could have in good faith.
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Alex is not doing that.
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Probably not.
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Because any figure that he's trying to cite
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necessarily involves so many things
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that he's pretending it doesn't, like pensions.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This figure is a massive figure,
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but it also extends to outside of the DHS,
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things within the Department of State.
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Like that budget is not just like Janet Napolitano's shop.
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You could stage a lot of terror attacks
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with 200 billion, Dan.
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I suppose you could.
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So anyway, he's saying it's 200 billion.
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Sure.
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Then he actually looks it up and-
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It's about 50 million.
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The budget request was 57 billion
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and they got 47.4, but that's just for the overall
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office of DHS, not for the 37 agencies.
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If you count all the money, quote,
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law enforcement agencies or quasi-law enforcement
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Homeland Security agencies,
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I think it's about 10 of the 30 plus agencies,
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it's over $200 billion.
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So I mean, what is he doing?
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All of the law enforcement agencies?
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Okay, you include like the FBI in there too?
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All right, cool, cool.
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He is just saying, find me a series of agencies
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that will eventually equal up to $200 billion.
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That's it.
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I don't care which ones.
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He's playing so fast and loose with his terms
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that it's just like, who gives a shit?
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That's just the sense I get.
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It's like, who cares?
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Whatever you're doing, just ugh.
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And it's a problem too because that is a conversation
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that's worth having.
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Oh, absolutely.
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About these department's budgets.
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But when you do it disingenuously like this,
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it just takes away from the ability
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to actually have that conversation.
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Yeah, no, if you read anything about the attempts
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to audit the Pentagon, it is a fucking Kafka-esque nightmare
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where everybody realizes at a certain point
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and they've done this over and over again,
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it's like nobody in the Pentagon actually knows
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where the money is going.
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It's all theoretical.
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It's kind of like Info Wars.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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Alex, all these times he's been deposed
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and like who runs what?
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I don't know.
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No one knows anything.
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Who could?
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Anybody could.
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Yeah, so I think Alex is a little bit distracted
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on this episode.
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That is because he went and saw a movie last night,
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the night before.
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And let me tell you, he loved it.
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Guys, will you pull up the rise of the machines
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end of humanity October issue of Info Wars magazine
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or go to Weldon, get me a copy right now, please.
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Back in the warehouse, they kept some back
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as collector's items.
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Bring me the second issue, please.
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No, because nowhere, I looked this up last night,
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nowhere, nowhere online, I don't know how they've done it.
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And I was joking when I said I'd go and take photos
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to show you.
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I can just tell you nowhere online do they show you
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the villain, the bad guy in oblivion.
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They say they've kept this movie secret like nothing else.
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And that they're obsessed with that obviously.
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Now it's out, so it's not a secret.
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The bad guy from the movie is on the cover of my magazine
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from October of last year, out of my mind.
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That's why this movie freaked me out so bad.
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So Alex saw oblivion and he can't stop talking about it.
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If I were to cut a ton of clips for this episode,
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so much of it would just be like oblivion
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spells out the globalist plans.
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It is a revolution, it is a revelation of the Illuminati.
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And this is all because he guessed the bad guy?
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Well, I wanna talk to you about that.
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Okay, that's what I was wondering.
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I have that issue of Infowars magazine.
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I'm not super interested in how the image on the cover
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of his October 2012 magazine shares some similarities
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with the pyramid or the tet in oblivion.
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There are some similarities,
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but there are also some differences.
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For one, the form in oblivion is not really a pyramid.
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It does have a triangular shape,
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but it doesn't go out to three points.
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Also, it's upside down.
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If you're trying to make it look like a pyramid,
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so there's, who cares?
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I don't really give a shit about this.
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And here's why.
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If you look at that cover of Alex's 2012 October magazine,
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you'll see a black pyramid with a red eye,
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if that's what you wanna call it.
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It looks like not.
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The pyramid in oblivion also had a red eye,
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though the placement is different.
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But this stylistic stuff is kind of secondary
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to the main point.
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I know for a fact that the image on the cover
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of Alex's magazine is just a Photoshop
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of Hal from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
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I could say that-
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Directly from his imagination, Dan.
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I could tell you with 100% certainty,
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and here's how I know.
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On that cover, the eye has the same three white lines
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on the top, on the cover of Alex's magazine,
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which are the reflections of the lights
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that you see on Hal.
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Alex wasn't channeling any deep truth or vision
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when he designed that magazine cover.
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He was just stealing shit from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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He can run around pretending
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that he has these prophetic visions all he wants,
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but the reality is that he's just seen
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a number of sci-fi movies and he thinks they're real.
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The makers of Oblivion probably added
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some sort of aesthetic touches to be an homage to 2001,
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but Alex is too far gone to understand that.
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They're both cribbing from the same original sci-fi source.
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I gotcha.
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It's ridiculous.
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I gotcha, I gotcha.
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So he spends a long time on this episode about Oblivion,
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and it's not as funny as his Watchmen review.
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Right, right, right.
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So I don't have a ton of clips of that,
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but it does definitely shade his mental state on this day,
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on this April 23rd.
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He seems borderline obsessed with this movie.
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See, I really feel like just yesterday
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he was crowing about having defeated the globalists,
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and this is the biggest conspiracy, really,
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that if he had uncovered,
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then he did uncover the greatest.
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We got him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So that would be something that you never,
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like the drumbeat has to go on until somebody's fired,
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until something like that.
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He saw a Tom Cruise movie.
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All right, okay, well then there we go.
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That takes up a lot of his attention.
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This is an issue for me.
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Yeah.
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So he starts getting into talking about
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how you gotta live, you know.
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Sure.
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The globalists wanna destroy you,
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and I think he ends up saying something really dangerous
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here in this next clip.
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They're gonna force more people on drugs
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than you're gonna have more mass shootings,
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and the answer will be more psychologists,
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more psychiatrists as the priest guild
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to go around and drug America out so bad that we fall,
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because the world is gonna get so horrible,
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you're going to want drugs to get you out of it.
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The GMO, the fluoride, the chemicals in the water,
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when all you really need is to go out
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and play sports with your friends,
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climb a hill, go for a swim,
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and yeah, go get drunk if you want to.
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I'm not even saying that's the best thing out there,
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but it's a lot better than Prozac-type drugs.
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What?
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Yeah.
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I would say that those things aren't bad suggestions.
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Go climb a hill, have a drink with your friends.
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Those aren't bad suggestions,
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but when it's in opposition to taking care
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of your mental health,
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I think that's where you get pretty dangerous.
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What are you talking about?
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Why are you going to a psychiatrist?
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Why not just live like Tom Sawyer?
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He wasn't depressed, now was he?
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He had a good time.
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He had a great time tricking people
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into whitewashing things.
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Look at that guy.
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Yeah, I think that's a little bit dangerous.
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Hey, go out, get shit-faced.
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What kind of shitty psychiatrist would be like,
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hey, you know what, you can take Prozac,
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but what I recommend is just go get drunk.
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That's great.
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Seems like an Alex Jonesian school of psychology
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that I do not subscribe to,
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but he is the pillar of mental health.
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He is the image of what a well-adjusted person
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would look like.
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I think we know that.
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He steals things from 2001 A Space Odyssey
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and believes that they're real
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and then thinks that other movies
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are ripping off his magazine cover
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or they're both channeling the globalists.
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Of course.
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This guy is sane.
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He's got it all.
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And I think his sanity is really on full display
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in this next clip.
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Oh, it's so liberal.
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Like the baby swimming in the toilet
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and people on my YouTube made jokes on Infowars
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going, there are too many people, Jones.
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You know, don't tell them what to do.
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You know, baby's getting exercise.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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I'll get you and your little dog too.
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Oh yeah, you're real powerful, all you evil people.
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I bet you'd be real tough in the ring
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with somebody with a battle ax.
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Here, here's your battle ax.
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Here's a good guy up against you any day.
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He'll smash your guts into the ground.
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But only because we know we're dealing with some scum
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that's gotta be put down.
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We don't enjoy it.
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We'll crush you for the innocence,
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not because we enjoy it.
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You're cowards.
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You're cowards.
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And the only sick satisfaction I've gotten,
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I repent for it,
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is knowing this evil system you're bringing in
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is gonna tear your guts out slow.
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Doesn't sound like-
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You're damned to hell after that.
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Make sure you know that.
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Ugh.
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Do not stare too long into the abyss
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unless you become the abyss.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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Love it.
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So I'm not entirely sure what story Alex is talking about
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with the fetus in a toilet,
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but I know I've heard him refer to it in passing
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multiple times.
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It's very hard to trace down exactly
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what he's talking about since he's so vague.
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You know, there's probably a real story
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that he's talking about,
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but I can't credibly tell you exactly what it is.
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But I imagine that there's a good chance
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that it's just some sort of a disingenuous
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anti-abortion campaign.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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I would assume.
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I think fetus in a toilet sounds more like
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a ween cover band,
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but that's just me.
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Could be.
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Well, when you try to find out what story this could be,
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and what I did is I went through Google results
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with the end date being when this episode came out.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Anything before that, gotcha.
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Yeah, and all you end up finding really
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is just mostly stories about people who had miscarriages,
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which don't in any way support the narrative
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Alex is trying to sell here.
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The rest of the stories I could find mostly
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had to do with high schoolers,
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like people who gave birth in a toilet at their school.
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Yeah.
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Like horrifying stories.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Way too sad for me to even really get into here.
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But these are the very people,
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like these high schoolers,
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who are in the most need
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of better reproductive health services.
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If Alex is truly concerned about these kinds of stories
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that he's yelling about,
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the answer is greater access to things like planned
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parenthood, not yelling at people about the devil.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Also, small point, Alex just went on that rant
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about taking no pleasure in killing people and all that,
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which is par for the course for him.
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But let's be clear about this.
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What prompted that rant is comments his own fans
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made on his videos and articles.
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These aren't the globalists he's mad at.
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The globalists aren't the abyss.
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His audience is.
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Yeah.
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Them just being like-
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I'm accidentally making that point very clear.
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He posts this video that's,
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or this article about a fetus in a toilet,
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and his audience says a bunch of shitty things,
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and he's like, oh, you damn globalists.
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How dare you globalists!
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It's very strange.
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Yeah, that's no good.
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No.
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So, Alex gets from here,
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he jumps into some gun fear news,
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because it wouldn't be a full day on his show
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were there not to be gun fears.
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And then you get things like this in the Huffington Post.
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California gun confiscation bill passes,
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approves 24 million to expedite illegal gun seizure.
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And it says it makes your semi-auto is basically illegal.
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Nope.
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And will begin the door-to-door confiscation
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of 40,000 handguns and assault weapons
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illegally owned by Californians.
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SB140.
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Oh, man.
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Did you catch that?
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He said illegally owned.
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I was gonna say, it seems like even he would be fine
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with people who illegally owned things
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having that being like-
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Should be.
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Stop using illegally owned things.
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Yeah, that bill is exclusively and entirely
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about people who have guns
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who are not legally allowed to possess guns.
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When he says 40,000 guns,
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that figure comes from the bill where it says,
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quote, there are currently more than 20,000 armed
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prohibited persons in California.
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Collectively, these individuals are believed
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to be in possession of over 39,000 handguns
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and 1,670 assault weapons.
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The bill has nothing to do with door-to-door
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confiscation of guns from civilians.
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It's about providing funding to improve
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the armed prohibited persons system,
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which is an online database that gun dealers
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are supposed to cross-reference
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when people are trying to buy firearms.
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A large part of it had to do with updating things
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so people who bought guns when they were legally allowed
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to buy them but then lost their right to own a gun
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because of a violent crime or something like that,
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that the system would pick those people up
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and maybe that would end up involving a confiscation,
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but to be fair, they have a gun illegally.
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Literally, the only thing this bill deals with
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is increasing the state's ability to enforce the laws
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that are already in place.
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If you disagree that people who've, I don't know,
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let's say committed a violent crime in the past
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shouldn't be allowed to own an assault weapon,
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then you should make that argument
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because that's the argument Alex should be making here,
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but I suspect that he knows that he doesn't have
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the chops to pull that off.
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It's super difficult to go on air and say,
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I'm opposed to this bill because I think
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the people who've committed armed robberies
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or shot people in the past should be totally free
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to possess guns.
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So you change the argument.
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Alex creates a straw man, this is about legal gun owners,
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or at least trying to create the impression
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that that's what this is about,
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being targeted by the evil state for gun confiscation.
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That's easier to sell.
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This is the trick, and that's how it's carried out.
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He makes this rhetoric much more marketable,
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and people buy into it because they don't want
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legal gun owners having their guns seized,
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but in reality, what they're doing is supporting
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violent felons having access to guns.
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Like it's, I don't know, he even can't handle
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telling this story the way he means to.
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So when he reads it, it says illegal guns
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in the copy that he's reading.
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That's not good.
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I mean, I think that murderers should be allowed
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to own weapons, as Dr. Phil said, past behavior
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is not a predictor of future events.
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So we can be confident that somebody who has murdered
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in the past will use that gun only for recreational
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purposes from here on out, right?
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So here's the thing, if you wanna make that argument,
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you can, and then someone would probably disagree
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with you, and then you, you know, whatever,
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who has the best idea will win out
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in the marketplace of ideas.
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I don't like that, because my idea's gonna lose.
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I'm gonna cheat instead, Dan.
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Yeah, whenever you, it's just all disingenuous framing.
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That's all, that's all that's going on.
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That's great.
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Man, you should not, that's a,
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because it doesn't even matter that he says illegally.
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Everybody who's listening is gonna be like,
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oh, illegally is just their slippery slope argument.
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Well, first they come for the illegal guns,
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and next they're gonna come for mine.
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If need be, it'll come to that.
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But instead, it'll just be presented
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as if this story was about, they're gonna come
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door to door, take all of your guns, take everybody's guns.
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Even, like, he slipped up, he didn't mean
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to say illegal guns.
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No, no, no, absolutely not.
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Because the rest of the episode,
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when he's talking about this story,
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it's not in the context of people
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who are not legally allowed to have guns.
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Of course, of course.
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It's door to door confiscation of law-abiding citizens
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who happen to own illegal guns.
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Every single one of you.
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So Alex is trying to get some news articles going.
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He decides he's gonna Google a little article.
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And it doesn't work out well.
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And this was a little upsetting.
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Watch this.
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Army trains to shoot Americans
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that don't turn in guns.
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And you know, this is still not working.
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It's still not typing.
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I'm gonna probably need to get a new computer
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or get it worked on.
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What I normally do is, what I normally do
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is break a computer.
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That's the only way I get a new computer.
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I just break it, quietly take it, smash it,
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put it in the trash, I've actually done that.
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And then that's how I get a new computer.
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Because I've been going on for about a week.
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Is it time for this computer to die?
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This is real childish behavior.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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I'm having trouble with my computer
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so I break it to force people to buy a new one.
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You need to go outside, you need to go on a hill,
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you maybe have a drink that's better than Prozac,
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or you could smash the shit out of your computer
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every time you-
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Because it has a minor function problem.
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Don't know how to fucking, he reads his typing
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like a fucking bit about somebody who can't read and type.
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It's like someone doing a improv scene
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about Hunt and Pack typing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
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This isn't typing.
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I wanna see six dogs play with lions.
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With lions.
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Click, oh, damn it.
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Gotta break it.
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I gotta break this whole fucking computer now.
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This isn't working the way I wanted it to, smash.
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It's gonna be used.
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Recycling.
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It's ridiculous, it's ridiculous.
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But that's it, that's his problem solver.
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Wow.
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So there's no guests on this episode.
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Alex is on his own, just sorta letting it all hang out.
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Just freestyling.
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So he's gotta take some calls.
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He's gotta open lines, this thing.
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Ooh, that's not good.
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And he gets a call from a guy
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who wants to tell him about how Alex has taught him
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how to experience the world.
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Well, I just wanna thank you for what you're doing.
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I go month to month on Prison Planet
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to support you a little bit more.
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I wanna encourage current Prison Planet members to do that.
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And for those of you that are listening,
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because you're getting so much traffic right now,
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you gotta take a look at what Alex Jones has done
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over the past 15 years,
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the information that he throws out there.
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I mean, it's because of your information, Alex,
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that I no longer just hear the news.
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I create a web of information in my mind,
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and it is so liberating. Stop it!
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I can't tell you how liberating it is
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to be able to discern from the news, not just hear the news.
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And so I can't thank you enough for helping me do that.
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Well, by the way, brother,
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what that is is you haven't really brain-boosted.
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You're just awake now.
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Ah, so close to a brain boost, though.
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Plant.
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I don't know.
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I think that could very easily be a real call.
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Yeah, that's true.
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You've taught me how to build a web of information
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in my mind that's all...
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Like, all Alex has done, especially, particularly,
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in this post-Boston bombing stretch that we've been in,
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all he's been doing is making shit up.
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Like, he is just...
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Whatever he feels like could be true,
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he just writes a story about it.
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Is true.
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There is nothing supporting these things.
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And what's crazy is 99% of the time, it is true.
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Except that 1% that is always actually true.
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Right, well, yes, that's true.
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But 99% of the time, it would have been true.
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We learned on our last episode
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that Alex believes there's an objective reality.
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So that is gonna be a problem for truth.
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Oh, boy.
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But, you know, he has this behavior that he's just...
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That he embodies, that is,
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I'm gonna just make fucking shit up
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very authoritatively and very confidently.
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And that behavior is mirrored by his audience.
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He frees them up to make webs
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in their mind of information that might link here,
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might link here.
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That's not good.
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No, of course not.
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Like, it's bad when he's doing it.
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It's really bad to imagine
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that it sort of gives carte blanche to anyone to do it.
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Right, right, right.
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Because who knows what...
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Alex is a bad thinker, but I bet there are worse.
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I bet there are worse thinkers.
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Oh, yeah, no, 100.
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100%.
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Absolutely.
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Many of them in his audience.
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I mean, just by virtue of him being
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somewhat constrained on the radio.
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His bad thinking only goes so far.
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Whereas if you're just somebody quiet and alone,
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watching fucking Raging Bull on a loop,
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you're gonna be in trouble.
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Well, he's constrained by his own success.
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Right.
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Like, he doesn't want to lose that money.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So, that is a built-in boundary
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that, at least at this point in his career, he has,
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where he can't go too far unless the cash stops.
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So, like his caller or some dick who just has a blog,
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they don't have those constraints.
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No, they got nothing to lose.
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Yeah.
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So, anyway, like I told you,
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Alex is super into oblivion.
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Sure.
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And he talks about it through most of this.
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I'm gonna be honest with you.
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This episode, there is not a lot going on.
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Just a lot of oblivion talk.
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It's a lot of oblivion talk and some weird callers.
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It's kind of, it's very surreal.
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It almost has nothing to do with the Boston Marathon.
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I don't understand how that's okay.
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I don't either.
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They're basically like an off-world group of aliens,
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but they're humans.
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They might as well be oblivion.
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They might as well be the Black Pyramid.
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They might as well be the Red Eye of Sauron.
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They believe that's what they're going to become.
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And you can say, well, they're channeling Satan
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that is an off-world entity.
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That's pretty much what it is.
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I've analyzed this so long.
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I'll just tell you.
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Satan's real, folks.
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It's a black fricking pyramid.
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That's what I envision in my mind
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as Satan six, eight months ago.
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That's what I envisioned in my mind
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when I stole a picture of Hal from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
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Awesome.
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After years of concrete analysis,
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I can confidently say to you,
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Satan's real and he's a black pyramid.
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Duh.
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It took me years to come to this conclusion.
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All right, Alex.
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Congratulations.
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I mean, it just, it becomes so difficult.
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When I have my quieter moments of reflection,
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it just becomes so hard for me to reconcile
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the fact that some people think he knows anything.
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I know, it's bananas.
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It's so weird when he's rambling about,
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I'm just gonna tell you, Satan's real,
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he's a black pyramid, he's the globalist.
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Sure, sure, fine.
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Okay, then I'll trust you when you say
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two pictures are real, fuck off.
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It's ridiculous.
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He needs to, we need to just get him a Tom Cruise movie
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every night before the show and then we can just hear his.
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He's also conflicted about it though
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because he doesn't really like Tom Cruise
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because Tom Cruise apparently
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used to be friends with Charlie Sheen.
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Alex doesn't actually spell this out,
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but he can kind of pick it up from context.
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That Tom Cruise tried to get Charlie Sheen
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to join Scientology and he wasn't into it,
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so now they're not friends anymore.
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Okay, well yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I believe that that's the story that Alex is telling.
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Anyway, he doesn't really like Tom Cruise,
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but this movie was just so good.
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So good.
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So good.
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It's like Edge of Tomorrow,
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it overcomes the Tom Cruisiness of it.
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It's kind of the same thing that he went through
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when Elysium came out.
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I remember hearing a couple episodes of that
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where he was really fucked up over it.
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He's just a sci-fi nerd.
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He is.
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This is it, this is what we wound up with.
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Yep, he's a sci-fi nerd with a little bit of brain damage
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who also has some sort of inability to regulate anger.
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Right, yep.
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That's more or less the ins and outs of this.
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So another thing is he didn't go to college,
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but he knows all about what colleges teach.
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Of course.
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Now even, even particularly like in the present,
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in 2013. Particularly now.
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Yeah, yeah, he knows what they're all teaching
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because of his in-depth experience with the academic world.
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Look, everybody who's given a secondary education
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is taught there's too many people.
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Humans are ugly and bad,
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but only those that love the state are good and virtuous.
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That's taught standard everywhere.
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That does sound great to me.
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Worldwide in the last hundred years
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because the robber barons took over education.
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They are social Darwinists.
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They believe you're animals
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and they're doing the world a favor to kill you.
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And if you buy into their programming, you deserve it.
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That's why Kesha and all these others,
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every major around here,
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openly worship Satan and teaches people
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how to commit suicide.
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Leave Kesha alone.
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Oh man.
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If you buy into it, you deserve it.
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Just like Kesha.
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Teaching kids to kill themselves.
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I am a political show.
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Yeah.
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I don't, I don't know if everybody
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who gets a secondary education is taught
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that humans are ugly and bad and evil.
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Was that in your orientation
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or did you have to take a 101 class on that?
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I did skip orientation, freshman orientation.
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See, there you go.
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I hung out in a kiddie pool with my buddy Berger.
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Now that is why you.
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Two separate kiddie pools out in the backyard.
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As we were a bunch of assholes.
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That's why you don't believe in population control.
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Yeah, that must be it.
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That must have been the meeting that I skipped.
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That is it.
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That's the one.
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I was told it was just a ice cream gathering.
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Sure!
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Icebreakers, everybody's doing the thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, you're wrong.
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That's when they teach you about Satan.
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I don't know.
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I took a pretty broad spectrum of classes
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in my collegiate career
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and I don't think any one of them
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was telling me that humans are evil.
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But then again, I mean, it's years ago.
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I don't know.
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Maybe curriculum's changed.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That is true.
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Who knows what the Gen Z-ers are dealing with right now?
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They're probably, I don't know,
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learning about climate change.
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This just seems like somebody who wants to
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aggressively dismiss and invalidate scholarship.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's like, somebody's like,
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oh yeah, they say they're smart,
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but they're all secretly trying to kill everybody.
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By virtue of me having dropped out of community college,
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I now know consequently that everybody
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who gets a secondary education is evil
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and you shouldn't trust them.
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Exactly.
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So, right after the marathon bombing,
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there were those reports of the ricin letters
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that got sent to President Obama.
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And as we know from discussing it,
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it was originally believed to be an Elvis impersonator.
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Right.
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Who was actually being set up by a rival,
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a conspiracy theory rival.
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Literally one of the craziest stories I've ever heard.
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So that story is unfolding in real time
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now. Sure.
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So the first suspect, the Elvis impersonator,
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is now being released from custody
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because the police have realized this isn't our guy.
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This is not the guy, no.
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So Alex now believes that he predicted this as well.
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All right, I'm gonna go to your phone calls right now
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and then coming up, oops,
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Ryerson's suspect released, was he framed?
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Of course, and I told you,
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they always launch an anthrax Ryerson attack
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during the terror attack to make Congress
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be part of the narrative like they're victims too.
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That's the script and I told you
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that would end up being fake.
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They always have multiple patsies.
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They'll probably kill the third patsy.
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For some reason they're pathological.
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They don't.
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The guy ends up getting arrested.
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He got tried and everything, it was just pretty.
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Just worked out.
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Yeah, no patsy's got killed.
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Alex has a lot of patsy bodies that are imagined.
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Yeah.
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They don't seem to ever really materialize.
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Where do they bury this?
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Do they have a mass patsy grave?
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Must. Yeah.
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So yeah, I mean, this is just like circumstance,
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again, playing into Alex's perception.
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Yeah.
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That, you know, this guy was a patsy,
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he was set up, it was all fake.
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And he was.
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He was set up and he was a patsy.
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Yes.
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Quite literally, this is the first time
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that we have an actual patsy.
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But it wasn't from the government.
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Nope, it was from a crazy person.
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Yeah, it was from a guy that he'd pissed off
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because he didn't believe in his conspiracy
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about a hotel morgue.
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It was about a guy who bears so many
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suspicious resemblances to Alex himself.
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Yeah.
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I wish he would wrestle with that aspect of the story.
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I don't think he can do that.
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No.
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So Janet Napolitano's comments about the budget of the DHS
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is one thing that Alex is mad about.
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But another thing is that there is an immigration bill
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being discussed in Congress.
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Sure.
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And she is in support of this.
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And Alex is kind of pissed about that.
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We're in a desperate situation.
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I have a stack of news here about what's happening
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to us physically.
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People call that negative.
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I'm supposed to just turn away from everybody,
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turn away from myself, turn away from my futures,
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my children's future, and just embrace all the liars
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and all the weird psycho scum like Janet Napolitano
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that craves running our life.
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And just turn our world over to the very worst people.
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Janet Napolitano, immigration bill, important step,
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though obviously she hasn't read the 800-page bill.
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Politico says it will cause a generational shift
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and guaranteed democratic takeover of everything.
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It's globalist takeover to foreigners.
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Hey, come in, we'll give you free stuff
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because you come from countries where no guns are allowed
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and you're slaves.
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You want to help bring down America?
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Come on.
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And if you actually downloaded info into these foreigners
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about liberty and freedom and taught them,
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it wouldn't be that big of a problem.
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But it's just the end of the country.
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So the first problem with this clip
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is that I'm certain that Politico
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didn't write a straight news article
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that said added immigrant naturalization
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would give Democrats perpetual control of everything.
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Pretty sure that they...
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I'm not sure that they did.
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Editorially, Politico does add that in with most sentences.
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That's just not something a serious person
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would really suggest,
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but it does sound exactly like the kind of thing
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a propagandist like Alex would say people were saying
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in order to create fear in his audience.
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It does sound like that too, yeah.
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Secondly, even if that were true,
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Alex is expressing exactly the same idea here.
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He's decrying that the Dems and the globalists
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want to bring in a group of people
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who would vote in the way they want,
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while at the same time,
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he's saying that the influx of people
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wouldn't be a problem
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if they had similar political ideas to his.
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Alex can couch his right-wing extremism
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by just calling it believing
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in the Bill of Rights and Constitution,
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but that doesn't change what he actually supports.
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If all these people voted the same way
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and believed the same sort of right-wing bullshit that I do,
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it wouldn't be a problem for immigrants to come in.
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Yep, simple, right?
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This is all, I mean, when you really get down to it,
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it's all just demographic shift bullshit.
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Same sort of things you hear from white nationalists today,
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but it's being presented so disingenuously.
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That's all that I can really hear here.
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Yeah, fuck that guy.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what to tell you about,
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the more demographic shift arguments that there are,
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the more I'm just like,
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if you say the word demographic in any immigration debate,
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you come out.
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You've revealed exactly what your issue is, which is that.
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Well, you can use the word,
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but you just can't use it in these contexts.
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No, I know, but that's what I'm saying.
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That's when the word comes up only.
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So look, most of this episode
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has nothing to do with Boston.
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Alex does complain that they're under martial law,
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which they weren't,
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and then also brings up the people
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having their homes searched,
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which again, we talked about on the last episode.
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He brings those up as little touch points
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occasionally, but doesn't really get into a whole lot of it.
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The only real kind of substance that I found
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that had to do with Boston
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is when a caller brings up Johar and his bag.
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Samuel in New Jersey, you're on the air.
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Go ahead.
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Hey, I've been listening to you guys
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over the past couple of days,
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and I don't know if you noticed this,
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but if you look at the two pictures
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of the Boston bombing suspects
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that they have with the backpacks on,
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one of them has a gray backpack.
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The other one has a white backpack,
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but the backpack with the bomb in it was black.
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Yep, no, no, both the bombs were in black backpacks,
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and we have people there at the scene
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with the exact same backpacks,
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and you had everybody there with black backpacks
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because it was part of the drill
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so that nobody found the real bomb.
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Alex is just completely making up
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that both the bombs were in black backpacks.
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I mean, he's just making shit up.
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Yeah, I like a caller giving us some Macadoo news
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from a few days ago.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, Leanne brought that to the table.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's good to know that even the callers
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don't listen to a woman talking either.
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No, certainly not.
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So Alex is getting, like, he's doing some
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actual research here on these pressure cookers
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that were supposed to be in these backpacks,
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and by research, I mean he's trying
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to put a pressure cooker into a backpack.
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See, now that's kinda what I thought you were gonna say,
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but I thought that was too stupid.
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He calls it a behind-the-scenes investigation.
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Nope, nope, stop it right now.
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Now, we're doing a behind-the-scenes study
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with that very pressure cooker.
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Looks like you couldn't cram it in there
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and then put it in another backpack.
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Plus, they had small backpacks.
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If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
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Okay, okay, all right.
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It might not be the reference you wanna make.
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Yep, yep, yep, just like this situation,
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I am going to try and acquit a man who clearly did it.
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This is the clearest articulation yet
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of Alex explicitly trying to claim
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that the Tsarnaev brothers are innocent,
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which is pretty fucked up, but at this point,
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the case hadn't gone to court,
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so it's totally understandable to be reluctant
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to jump to conclusions, but to argue emphatically
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for his innocence is a little bit strange.
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Alex wasn't the only one engaging in this sort of behavior.
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According to an April 22nd article in Wired,
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a whole community of Johar supporters
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had popped up on social media,
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pushing the hashtag Free Johar.
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People were posting all sorts of bullshit,
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from your normal false flag stuff
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all the way to insisting that the victims
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must have been fake because they didn't feel
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that there was enough blood around.
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There it is.
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A not insignificant number of these accounts
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were citing Infor's articles to help support their claims
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that Johar was innocent and should be released.
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Now, in 2019, it's hard to look at that
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and not wonder if it was organic.
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The way we've seen social media be manipulated,
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particularly around hot button issues and divisive events,
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kind of makes me wary.
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You know, I have little enough faith
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in the conspiracy folks that I could definitely believe
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this kind of campaign was well within their repertoire
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and could be a thing that they would do,
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but at this point, I have no idea what to think.
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And that's not to say that I think
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that there's a possibility of foreign meddling
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or anything. Right, right, right.
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But, you know, there's ways that people
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could game social media in ways that we didn't realize,
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maybe, some people probably realize,
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but we weren't super aware of.
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Yeah, and we do know that the bot farms
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and the like were being at least tested in 2013.
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Sure.
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So it's entirely possible that that is an outside situation.
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I think that's a much more difficult conclusion to come to,
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but the strategies of social media manipulation
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and amplification are things that people
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could have stumbled upon in conspiracy worlds, let's say.
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Somebody might have figured out,
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oh, here's a good way to push a hashtag.
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We have a bunch of connected accounts
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or whatever all pushing it out.
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Like, there is something here that could be very
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nascent forms of that sort of social media manipulation.
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And when I think back to Alex's earlier career,
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he was doing a lot of shit like that.
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Not necessarily that I'm aware of on social media,
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but one of the things that he used to do
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was he would do Google bombs,
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where he would tell all of his audience
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to Google a specific phrase in order
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to make it rise up in the Google trends.
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So it would show up in suggested searches,
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like, did that with like false flag and,
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you know, that sort of thing.
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Yeah.
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I just, I wonder, I have nothing to base this on.
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I can't prove it.
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Right.
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But I do wonder about the organicness
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of that sort of a hashtag.
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Yeah, whatever we-
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Totally possibly organic, totally possibly.
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No, absolutely.
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That is also the type of thing that they would do.
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But now in retrospect, with all the information we have
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about how the algorithm has been exploited over time
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and how we weren't really paying attention to it,
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it is hard to look at so many of these situations
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in the past and not at least suspect,
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oh shit, was that whenever it first reared its ugly head
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or the like, you know?
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Or the tea party being astroturfed in a kind
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of orchestrated media attack on us is very similar.
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Like, it's like, I never know what's real.
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Yeah, it's hard to know.
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And that's kind of one of the reasons why I discount
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a whole lot of social media stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think it's not worth really getting too up in arms
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about a lot of that kind of thing.
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But I'm curious.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what's going on.
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But this caller that Alex is talking to,
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we find out a little bit more information about him
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and it makes this interaction completely unacceptable.
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I probably listen to you almost every day
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and I'm actually 14 years old and, you know,
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when I first started talking about stuff like this,
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people, you know, it was kind of annoying or embarrassing.
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But I just learned not to care anymore.
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Or people can be, I mean, you know, you probably have so many
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people that hate you or make fun of you
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or call you crazy or stuff like this.
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But, you know, it's-
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No, no, they're the ones that are crazy.
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Look at this CNN news story.
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Teacher sues school over suspension for weapons charge,
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showing students gardening tools.
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So this story is a little bit
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of a middle ground case for me.
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This is about a guy named Doug Bartlett
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who got suspended from his teaching job
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for bringing gardening tools to school to show his students.
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So after he got fired, he decided to sue the school.
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Or not got fired, when he got suspended,
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he decided to sue the school.
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Is that punishment of the suspension
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a little bit excessive, possibly?
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But also these are sharp tools
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that could definitely hurt somebody
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and it was a second grade class.
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These are like eight year old kids in that class.
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So it doesn't make a ton of sense
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to have sharp objects around them.
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Right, you can't even have sharp scissors.
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The way the right wing media presented the story
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was that Bartlett had just brought a screwdriver
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and a wrench to teach the kids about gardening.
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But the reality is a little bit different.
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He also brought in a box cutter and a pocket knife.
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Six chainsaws and he also began to juggle flames.
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It was an unsafe working environment at least.
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The school review board found
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that while the discussion of tools
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is part of the proper curriculum,
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he was a little bit outside
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of what they consider appropriate.
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The right wing media also said
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that the screwdriver and wrench
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were kept in a locked box out of the reach of the students,
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but this is directly contradicted by the findings
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that came out when the case was dismissed in 2014.
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From the Cook County record, quote,
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the imposition of a four day suspension
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for leaving such tools in a place
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accessible to second grade students
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was within the discretion of the school administrators.
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These situations are always, literally,
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always more complicated than the way Alex presents them.
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He wants cut and dry social crisis issues
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to sell his audience, not nuance.
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He wants them to think that this globalist system
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is so out of control, when in reality,
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if you look at the actual details of the case,
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it kind of makes sense why this guy
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might get suspended for a few days.
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It's bad enough that Alex does this stuff generally,
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but to consider that he does this
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while talking to a 14 year old child
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who listens to his show every day is monstrous.
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That is so inappropriate.
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Especially since the kid is clearly expressing
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feelings of isolation and loneliness
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and rather than be like, hey, you know what,
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you should still try and connect with people.
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Alex is like, everyone you know is lying!
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They're all crazy!
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You know, what the kid's expressing is,
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I express the ideas that I learned from you
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and people think that I'm crazy because of it.
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Ah, no, no, they're crazy.
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That's abuse, man.
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You can't act like that.
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Join my cult.
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You can't act like that.
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You can come live with me.
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I can't accept that Alex takes calls from minors, period.
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Yeah, no shit, right?
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That is inappropriate.
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He should not be talking to children.
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It is a family show, Dan.
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It's a family show.
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It is not a family show.
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It is a family show.
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I think that he, he always talks about
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how you don't screen your calls.
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You should start screening your calls.
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Don't have 14 year olds on air.
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You were just yelling about how
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you're not gonna take joy in it
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but you're gonna kill all these people who are all evil
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and the devil is a black pyramid and don't talk to kids.
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He is, he is definitely looking into the abyss right now
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and, oh boy.
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And it gets worse.
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I mean, as the call goes on, this,
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I think that it's fair to say that this call
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or this, this next clip of the call
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is Alex just fucking with this kid's mind.
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And of course we've all heard about those stories.
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Isn't that good, sir?
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You don't want to be an extremist, do you?
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You know, like, yeah, back in 40s, no one hated guns.
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I don't understand.
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When do we fail our generation with weapons?
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I mean, weapons are not for-
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Sir, here's the deal.
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None of it makes sense because it's not meant to.
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Psych warfare chiefs whose religion is eugenics
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are in control.
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Kids, like 14-year-olds can't deal with this stuff.
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I mean, I'm not trying to infantilize teenagers or anything,
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but what Alex is talking about is outside of the range.
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I'm a-
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A 14-year-old is not equipped to deal
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with that being true or not.
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He is impressionable.
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He looks up to Alex and he's steering him down
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a very fucked up path.
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Cool, Alex.
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I'm at lunch.
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I'm gonna take this information to biology next period.
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And he's gonna be talking about fucking Gregor Mendel
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and I'm gonna be like,
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have you considered whether or not the overlords
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are dedicated eugenicists?
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Discuss.
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It's-
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Not good.
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No.
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And you know, I often wrestle with like,
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what is the worst behavior I've ever seen out of Alex?
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And it's tough.
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It's tough.
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That's like asking,
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what's the worst behavior I've ever seen?
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Yeah.
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It's close.
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There's so many things.
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The denial of people's personal tragedies,
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the calls for harassment that are very clear,
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if not literal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Those sorts of things are terrible.
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The profiting off denial of people's tragedies.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Just the lies, it's all really bad,
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but in the running it's definitely like-
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Destroying children's brains.
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This isn't the only person who's under even 16
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who I've heard call in that Alex behaves this way towards.
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There was like, as I recall,
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there was a 12 year old I've heard call in
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that we've talked about on the show before.
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And like, that is a level of inappropriate
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that I can't, like he's an adult.
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Yeah.
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He's an adult.
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He has kids.
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Your parents didn't even allow you
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to watch fucking late night TV.
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No.
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What does this kid's parents do
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in letting them listen to Alex Jones?
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I'm sure they don't know.
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Probably.
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Maybe, I don't know.
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They might listen too.
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Look, I think my parents were overly censorious
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and very much controlling on a level that, you know,
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I could deal with a little bit less of that in my youth.
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But if the goal was to keep me away from stuff like this,
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good on them.
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That's a good motivation.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Their pure heartedness is, yeah.
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So Alex gets another call and it's a caller who,
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I don't know, I don't know if this caller's an idiot,
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but Alex says something really stupid.
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Okay.
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Alex says, Jeff, you're on the air.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, turn your radio off, bud.
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Do me a favor.
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Okay, that's not gonna work.
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Do me a favor, bud.
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I'm doing all right.
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Go ahead.
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Hey, yeah, I've been awake since about, let's see,
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when George Bush Jr. became our president
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and I got awake when he wouldn't close the borders down
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when he said all the terrorists were coming in
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and the guy wouldn't close the borders.
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Then I'd be like, okay, there's supposed
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to be a terrorist threat, but you won't close our borders.
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I mean, it's just all totally meant to be transparent.
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They're just training us.
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They're gonna ask for mass sacrifice
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of our kids soon publicly.
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I'm telling you, people don't believe that.
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They're already saying, kill babies up to age three,
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ha ha ha, the baby drowned in the toilet,
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kill the babies, kill, kill, kill.
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I mean, it's just a bunch of sick freaks.
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What a great prediction.
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Mass sacrifice of children coming soon.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Bad prediction.
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There's a 14-year-old who was listening to that.
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Yeah, yeah, Alex.
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Great.
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So we got another caller here
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who thinks The Hunger Games is real,
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which makes sense because he's listening to Alex's show
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who believes that every fucking movie is real.
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But also with the movie Hunger Games,
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to me, that's a movie that's just showing
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where they want the US to go.
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No, that's actually
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in the UN Biological Diversity Assessment 1996,
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the full one.
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I have screenshots of my film Road to Tyranny.
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I had to go to UT to get the actual document,
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you know, the full document, not just the boil down.
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And it said, we want to bring in world government
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and reestablish gladiatorial games and human sacrifice
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to reduce world population.
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How fucking stupid do you have to be
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to think that gladiatorial games
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would do anything to impact population?
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That would, that would,
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that would really cut it.
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That would really take us down one at a time, I guess.
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That's the least efficient system
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the globalists could ever come up with.
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How many battles can we have in a day
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with the gladiatorial games?
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Let's say we have a, you know,
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two one-on-one matches and a couple of battle royales.
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We get rid of 400 a day, Dan.
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By 2025, we're free and clear.
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No, no fucking way is gladiatorial games
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the solution to overpopulation.
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It's ridiculous.
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Oh man.
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I think, I think I would prefer a future
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where a battle royale is real
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as opposed to the Hunger Games.
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That's, that's my flavor of making kids murder each other.
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I would rather neither.
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Yeah, okay fine.
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Thank God they're both fiction.
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Yeah.
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Yuck.
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But oblivion did come true.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is now fucked with his 14 year old's mind.
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He said that there's going to be mass child sacrifices
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in the very near future.
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Naturally.
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And that the globalists want to bring back gladiatorial
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games in order to reduce population.
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Sure.
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So this is a good summation.
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Where would we have them?
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This is a good summation
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of what he's trying to do on his show.
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We're going to go back to more of your phone calls here.
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You know, we're just doing our best to get people thinking,
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to get people understanding what's happening
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and what's going on.
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Yeah, doing a great job getting people thinking.
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Gladiatorial games are coming.
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And mass child sacrifices for the globalists
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who worship the giant black pyramid.
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That is Satan.
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Yeah.
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That has an eye that is photoshopped from Hal.
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Yeah.
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This is such a stupid show.
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I got it.
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I'm really struggling to remember that yesterday,
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not, not like this is a week in the past
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and we've all kind of moved on the 24 hour news cycle
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and whatnot, lack of attention span.
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This is yesterday that he was saying
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that full on martial law was being declared,
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that everybody in Boston was being held inside
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so they could murder hundreds of fake patsies.
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And then the next day he's just like, man,
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you're going to take some calls.
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You're 14.
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Let's fuck you up.
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I don't know.
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What is this?
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You can't do that.
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It's an insane thing.
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And that's, I mean,
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this is the lesson that we keep learning over and over again.
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That is like, you just never know what he's going to do.
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No, you have an expectation, you know his patterns,
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you know, like,
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but one of his patterns is a complete unpredictability
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that he might just go watch Oblivion,
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get really fucked up the night before,
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really freak out about it,
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and then come in to studio and his show is a complete
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disaster.
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That's, that's probably a, the, a really, really good,
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uh, that's really good evidence for why he knows
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he's full of shit.
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Because if you actually were on the greatest story
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in history of a major United States city being put under
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martial law and hundreds of people being murdered,
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you would doggedly pursue it.
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It would be a daily, you would have FOIA requests.
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You would do the whole thing.
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This would never go away.
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What don't you understand about his in-depth investigation
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of trying to put a pressure cooker in a backpack?
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What don't you understand?
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Oh, that's right.
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That's right. I forgot.
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I forgot.
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That investigation is ongoing.
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I retract my statement entirely.
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I forgot that he was still investigating.
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I apologize.
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Yeah.
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So he talks about Oblivion and he's talking about these
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authors of the movie.
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The guy who wrote the graphic novel and then the person who
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adapted it,
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these people are like exposing parts of the Illuminati and
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the globalist plan.
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Sure.
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Um,
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then he only has one other author he can really compare it
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to someone we've, uh, Arthur C. Clark.
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Nope.
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As so many of their writers have talked about,
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I talk about why the future doesn't need us a lot and wired
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magazine in April, 2000,
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Bill joy talked about it hundreds of times.
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Cause you can go read that.
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He goes to a globalist conference.
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There's 200 top tech people there.
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They have a discussion.
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Do we kill everybody?
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Nope.
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That's better for the earth.
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Or do we let people just play video games all day and become
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fat blobs like Wally, you know,
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where it's a computerized system,
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taking care of people that can't even walk and that's where
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it's going.
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No,
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they're not going to put you in the trance state.
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So you can drink pina coladas on the deck of a star cruiser.
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They're already killing us.
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The decision has been made
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and they're going towards a hotter program.
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And by a hotter program,
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a faster program.
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And I know I just keep like an emergency beacon going
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emergency,
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emergency,
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emergency to the point of,
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I just can't be around people who don't take this serious
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anymore.
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And you know what I could become,
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you're like a 14 year old,
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really aggressive too.
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And everything because I'm in combat,
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ladies and gentlemen,
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I know I'm right.
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And it is so exhausting to care about humanity,
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to care about you and your family,
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to care about you and your children,
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because I just want survival.
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I mean, I'm right about this and you,
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you have to make the decision to research it.
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So, you know,
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what's going on.
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And if you do,
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you find out that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Even if you research just bill joy's article,
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you don't, you realize,
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Oh, you're full of.
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Yep.
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The only thing that Alex took from that bill joy article is
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a passage that's quoting the Unabomber that bill joy put in
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the article discussing fucked up version views of the
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future.
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That is all Alex knows about this article.
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And he claims that it's what bill joy heard at this
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convention that it's fucking the Unabomber.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So you go to this convention,
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do they read the notes from the previous meeting or do they
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just open with,
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should we kill everybody?
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I mean the way Alex is presenting it,
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it's just,
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we get down to business.
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Yeah.
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We've decided we're going to kill everyone.
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They don't have time.
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Their plan is a decade behind.
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We know this.
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So exhausted.
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It's always 10 years behind.
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I mean,
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if you really were right,
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I doubt you would have to say I'm right twice in your sort
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of breakdown about like,
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I can't be around people who don't share my delusions
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anymore.
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I'm right.
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Yeah.
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No,
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I think people would be,
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would be fine.
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Would be fine if you,
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if you were right.
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So Alex saw oblivion.
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I keep bringing this up because he does.
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Yeah.
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This next clip I find a little bit upsetting because I think
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Alex legitimately almost starts crying,
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talking about oblivion.
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I mean,
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we are under mega attack,
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ladies and gentlemen,
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and I am just a desperate primitive human and by primitive,
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that's more advanced than what we are now.
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I'm just a primitive person with life force directives that
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is just sitting here going,
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Oh my God,
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they're openly admitting this whole program.
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And then I see something like oblivion
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that the more,
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I mean,
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just every 30 seconds
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was a different archetype message and it was all positive.
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And it was about
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rebirth and regeneration and,
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you know,
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the children,
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but also in the genetics,
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there being memories,
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which has been proven and the cold blooded
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psychopath system versus love
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and the soul and
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how compartmentalization is used to control everybody.
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And
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it is just,
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it is just beyond insane.
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And I just feel an overriding responsibility
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to try to stop this.
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I mean,
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I can hardly be around my children
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because they're so innocent.
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They're so good.
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And it doesn't even make me angry when I think about the new
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world order now,
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it is so evil.
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Oh God.
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I just,
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I hear clips like that.
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It's like,
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you should,
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I don't want to live in a society where you're just like,
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I don't want to live in a society where people aren't allowed
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to see certain movies.
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I think you're blaming the wrong side of the media here on
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this one,
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Dan.
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I think you might be going the other direction.
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No, no, no.
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I'm not saying outlaw oblivion.
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I'm saying
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Outlaw Alex from seeing oblivion.
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I don't know how you'd implement that system.
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It's like,
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it's like the,
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the R rating,
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you know,
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they added PG-13.
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This is just not for Alex.
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NFA.
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This is rated NFA.
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You can't tell the difference between fiction and reality.
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You don't get to see dystopic sci-fi.
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That's going to be a new warning on those TV,
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MA TV delusional.
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Just get the fuck out of here.
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I mean,
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I listened to that clip and I was,
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I find it so upsetting.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel such a responsibility to stop this oblivion.
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I genuinely got in my head,
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like when he was going through this whole thing,
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I was like,
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man,
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I kind of want to do a sci-fi 24 hour marathon with Alex and
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just see what he believes in,
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what he doesn't.
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I could hear.
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I don't want him to explain anything to me.
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I can tell.
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I want to watch his face.
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If it's dystopian,
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he believes it.
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Of course.
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If it's not dystopian,
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he probably believes it.
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He believes everything.
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I don't fucking know.
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It's ridiculous.
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So anyway,
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liberals,
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you know,
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liberals,
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I have heard of them.
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They want to kill you.
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That does sound like us.
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They want to kill everyone.
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Yeah.
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But sure.
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If you try to kill them,
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they'll stop you.
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They're total hypocrites.
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It's that's right.
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Mokes about us talking about how we're animals.
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They're going to kill.
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And then I even talked to yuppies and they go,
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yeah, we are dumb,
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ugly animals.
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Humanity's ugly and dumb and we need to die.
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And I said,
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but if I right now tried to kill you,
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you would fight for your life and call the police.
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And they don't even know what to say.
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They're like,
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I say this to people,
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are you threatening me?
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And I go,
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don't be an intellectual dimwit.
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You're supposed to be this big,
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smart liberal.
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Who's really an authoritarian.
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You know,
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you just said we all need to die,
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but you're going to fight if I attack you,
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right?
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Well,
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of course I am.
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And I go,
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well then why have you bought into something?
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You,
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you don't just say you're part of this and then not really
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be part of it.
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Kill yourself.
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Plus you're not part of it.
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I mean,
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how many times,
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how many different ways do I have to say this to you?
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So,
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so frustrated by this logic trap.
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He keeps putting authoritarian liberals in and they,
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they have no way around it.
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You think the human race is bad and ugly and you want to
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kill him.
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Oh yeah.
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Well,
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what if I tried to kill you?
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You'd stop me,
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right?
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Point proven.
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Point proven.
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Point proven.
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Fucking debate me.
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If you,
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if you've decided that all of your enemies are trying to
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depopulate the planet,
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then conversation becomes difficult because they're going to
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need to clarify that first premise in order to go to any
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further conversation.
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And you're not going to let them.
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No,
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no,
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no,
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absolutely not.
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Cause if you say things like,
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I would like to provide a reproductive healthcare for people
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in developing countries.
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You just want to kill everyone.
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Well,
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no.
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And that's why you want to kill me,
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but then you don't want to die.
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I can't help but hear.
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I got to go.
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I got to go.
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Yeah.
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That,
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that whole like they don't even know what to say is like,
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yeah,
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yeah.
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That's,
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that's the correct response to you,
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yeah.
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Because your argument's silly.
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It's not worth it.
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No.
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So earlier when Alex was talking about this immigration
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bill,
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there were shades of some feelings that he has about
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demographics and all of that.
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Right.
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It didn't feel very comfortable.
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And so he talks about it a little bit more here in a way
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that I feel,
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I feel like it makes it a little worse.
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I mean,
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the globalists are opening the borders up to the entire
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collapsed world that they have collapsed with their
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policies,
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bringing in people with no history of freedom to say,
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you get your freedom by bringing down the second amendment
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that is taught now as a sacrament to look to Latin
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Americans coming in,
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that you're going to have your victory over the green goes
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when you get their guns,
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when it should be,
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Hey,
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if you want to come to America,
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that's one thing the government isn't your friend.
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We,
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you,
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you deserve guns.
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You deserve freedom,
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but they're tying their rebellion and their liberty to
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taking everybody's guns and America being like Mexico or
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Nigerian.
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So, I mean, it's tough to hear that and not hear some racial
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tinges to,
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to his feelings about immigrants.
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It's one thing if we let in everybody who's white and votes
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Republican,
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but then you let in people who aren't white and don't vote
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Republican.
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They believe anything.
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They're going to take the green goes,
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it's a sacrament for Latin American immigrants to take white
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people's guns.
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That seems fucked up.
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The,
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the idea that there's something like you're going to bring
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in people who don't know any who aren't used to freedom is
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like a,
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is a reason to keep people out.
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They're not,
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they're not used to freedom.
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They're not ready for freedom yet.
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They're acclimated to.
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Yeah.
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We need to get them into like a halfway house where you're a
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little free,
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but not all the way free.
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Cause if they're free here,
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when they're not used to it,
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who knows what they'll do?
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It's a,
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it's strange.
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His feelings are muddy to say the,
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to put it as nicely as possible.
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There's not a lot of clarity.
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Yeah.
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But it seems bad.
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So one of his big complaints about Janet Napolitano and her
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position on the immigration bill is that he insists she
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hasn't read it.
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And he's basing this on a little bit of a Q and a question
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and answer session with Ted Cruz,
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who asks her,
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who is not her.
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No,
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he is,
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but he asks Napolitano if she's read the bill.
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Sure.
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So here's Alex's big gotcha moment.
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Okay.
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I'm really impressed with Ted Cruz said no one.
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And let's go,
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but let's go ahead and see if Janet's read the 800 page bill.
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Here it is.
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My office received the text of this bill at 2 25 AM on
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Wednesday,
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April 17th,
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five days ago,
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the bill is 844 pages long.
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It is dealing with a very complicated topic.
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And,
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and my first question is when did,
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did your office receive a copy of the bill as,
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as filed about three o'clock in the morning?
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I think that's about right.
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In the five days since then,
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when you have obviously been heavily focused on matters such
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as the Boston bombing and quite properly focused on matters
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such as that,
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have you had the time to read all 844 pages of the bill?
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Actually,
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I have read the bill.
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I know many sections of the bill fairly well.
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So I was able to skim those sections,
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but I have been able to review the bill.
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Yes, sir.
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Well, okay.
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Then,
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then that has been a busy weekend for you.
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Total bull.
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Yes, sir.
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Very busy.
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Oh yes.
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I bet it was a busy with the stuff that goes on at your
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house.
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We know what happens to the man at your office.
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I mean,
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what a monster total witchy poo lies.
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So it's gotcha moment is Ted Cruz asking if she's read the
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bill and she's like,
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I'm familiar with a lot of it.
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So I was able to skim some parts,
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but yeah,
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I'm familiar with the bell.
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Ha ha liar.
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What?
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That's not,
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where's the proof.
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That's not fair.
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That's not fair.
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Do you think she doesn't have a staff?
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That is not fair.
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Do you think that is,
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that is rude.
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Yeah.
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I feel,
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I feel like I was just you can't just play a clip of her
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being like,
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yeah,
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I read the bill and then be like,
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ha ha.
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I tricked you.
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You didn't.
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You didn't.
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You haven't proved that she didn't read it.
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Of course not.
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It's 800 pages,
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but let's say she has like a staff of seven interns in five
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days.
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You think they couldn't handle their responsibilities plus
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reading,
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let's say a hundred pages and giving a brief.
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Well,
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not just that,
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but when she says I'm familiar with certain parts of it,
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that's because the bill didn't just get written without her
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being asked about it at all.
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Yeah.
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All 800 pages materialized out of nowhere.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They were,
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they were tossed in front of her apartment like a fucking
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newspaper.
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Yeah.
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This is ridiculous.
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That's stupid.
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This guy says some complaints about Napolitano and this is
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the way it generally goes with him,
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especially with women in power.
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Thank you,
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Mr. Napolitano.
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Thank you for the,
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I'm not making fun of women that look like men.
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It's just that why do all the women in the federal
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government need to look like women that look like men?
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I mean,
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is it like maybe she's an alien?
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This is a good,
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this is good analysis.
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It's a hard hitting political analysis.
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All women in government look like women who look like men.
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Yes.
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That seems to be,
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they're aliens.
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They come and unzip their alien suit and they've got a
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Janet Reno,
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Janet Napolitano look underneath.
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I mean,
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this is just ridiculous.
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Man,
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this is going to be so annoying.
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Whenever,
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whenever we get back into,
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if,
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if a Warren is the nominee,
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we're just going to hear about how she's ugly.
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All we already are.
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I know,
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but just so from Alex at least.
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Yeah.
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Yup.
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It's going to be rough.
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Yup.
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So,
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but you know,
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they're probably aliens.
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Like people like Napolitano.
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He might as well be an alien.
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I mean,
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I don't know.
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You can't get in the federal government now unless you look
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and act like Janet Napolitano.
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I mean,
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I want to know.
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Yes,
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I did read that.
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I mean,
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you know what?
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I think she's an imposter.
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I say the head of Homeland Security is from planet Poptart.
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Okay.
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And then it came here in the tent.
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I'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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Your calls coming up and more news straight ahead
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and fall wars.com prison planet.tv.
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This is reality based radio.
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This is reality based radio.
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Janet Napolitano is from outer space.
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And she came here in an upside down black pyramid.
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That I just saw in a movie last night.
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This is reality.
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14 year olds are listening.
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Yeah.
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So this next clip,
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Alex does one of my,
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our favorite behaviors.
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And that of course is quote the founding fathers.
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That's good stuff.
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That's what I mean.
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I mean,
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there are crooks.
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They've gotten away with everything.
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And now we're wondering why they're getting away with even
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more because we're Thomas Jefferson said the level of
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tyranny you will live under is the exact amount you will
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accept.
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That's a Thomas Jefferson quote.
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And that's exactly true.
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God bless you.
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I appreciate your call.
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It's not a Thomas Jefferson quote.
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You're paraphrasing Frederick Douglas.
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99% of the time.
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He is correct.
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No,
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99%
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99% of the time he's taught.
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He's either making something up,
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quoting a meme that he read somewhere or somebody else's
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words.
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He's attributed to Thomas.
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Right.
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I do.
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I honestly don't know if I've ever heard him use a Thomas
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Jefferson quote correctly.
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No.
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So there we got one last like real clip from this episode.
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And it's Alex bragging about being psychic because this
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Rison suspect got released.
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By the way,
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I don't know how I do it.
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I said,
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this guy's a Patsy mailing,
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the,
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the,
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the poison Ryerson.
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And I said,
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watch they'll,
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they'll arrest two or three more by the time they're done.
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And that's now happened.
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I mean,
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they look,
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they follow handbooks.
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I'm sorry,
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go ahead.
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So it's not,
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it's not a globalist handbook.
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It's an incredibly fucked up bizarre situation of a rivalry
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that got way out of control.
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Yeah.
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It's just such a more interesting story than some sort of
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globalist plot.
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Yeah.
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It's ridiculous.
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You can,
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you can propagandize so many stories,
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but when you get a dynamite story like that,
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you have to just read it verbatim.
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Yeah.
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In fairness to Alex,
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a lot of that information that we're able to know now hasn't
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come out.
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He doesn't have that information.
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So he can write his own story about it in the same way that
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he did about a lot of the Boston bombing stuff in the days
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immediately after it.
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But when you do have the gift of hindsight,
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you can look back and be like, you fucked that story up.
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Oh yeah.
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Multiple times.
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And this is a perfect opportunity to fake a correct or to say
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you're correcting yourself in order to just read a bad-ass
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story.
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Would be.
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Yeah.
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But Alex would then have to give up his,
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the mantle of the prophet.
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That's true.
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He's like, I told you he was going to be a patsy.
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Right.
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Now, whenever that case probably goes to court,
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Alex is going to just ignore it entirely and just let,
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let it sit there as a, I was right.
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Yeah.
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It seems to be, this episode is pretty short comparatively.
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And a big reason for that is it's so much about oblivion.
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And his review is not a compact, you know,
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like he doesn't give a, like a full,
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like this is what I think about the scene with the drones
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and Bob, you know, the, the people in the,
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the ship and the clones and you know,
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like he doesn't really get into just sort of vague talking
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about how great the movie is and how it reveals the
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Illuminati's plan.
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I've never seen it.
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Have you seen it?
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No, I don't give a shit.
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I know.
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You didn't watch it in preparation for this episode?
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No, I watched some clips.
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What if there is some serious stuff in there that you needed
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to report on?
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My sense of it is there's not.
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I think this is another thing,
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much like childhood's end and all of these other sci-fi
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things that Alex believes are real.
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I just, I wish, I wish it was more interesting.
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Yeah.
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His oblivion review.
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Because then we could have played a bunch of clips of it
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and had some fun, but it's just not, it's just,
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I believe that this was a unveiling of globalist truth.
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Who cares?
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Yeah, that's no good.
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No.
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I want a, I want a more innocuous sci-fi film.
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I want him to review like gravity or some shit like that
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where there's no like secret,
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there's no like secret alien plot or anything like that.
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It's just shit goes wrong in space, the movie.
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I'm positive that if we go and find the release date
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of gravity, he would have done a long review,
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a long boring review.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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This was a little bit of a disappointing episode
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in some ways, but also of his show.
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Yeah.
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But then at the same time,
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I think that it's so fascinating how he takes in these,
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these sci-fi movies.
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Yeah.
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And then it's like, you just, it blows his mind.
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Yeah.
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In a way that is very adolescent.
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To such that it brings him to tears almost.
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Yeah.
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Very close.
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It felt fairly sincere.
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Yeah, it really did.
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That almost crying.
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It felt like he was fighting it more than the fake times.
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If it was fake crying,
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then he would have tried to speak through it
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with like a.
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There would have been more performance to it.
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It's very subdued crying.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And subdued is not the type of performance he normally gives.
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So he has this relationship with these media things
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that he takes in like movies
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that I would describe as pretty adolescent.
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You see these movies and then they're truth to you,
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even if they are,
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even if some of them do try to give like a allegorical
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or metaphorical message about the real world.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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You know, you could take,
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you could watch The Matrix
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and come away with some life lesson.
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Yeah.
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Nothing wrong with that.
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Nah.
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But to imagine that it's revealing secrets.
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Yeah.
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It's the same thing you see with like Steve Pachanik
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when he was talking about how this person in the media
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was writing articles that were to talk to him
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through newspapers.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This sort of bizarre thinking
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that I would describe as fucked up and kind of childish.
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Yeah.
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And when you have that mixed with,
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you get a 14 year old collar
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and you're just fucking with that kid's head.
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Like I can't not talk about that episode,
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even if it has nothing to do
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with largely what we're trying to learn.
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Yeah.
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It's a mess.
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It is weird to see this behavior
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as so stark in how irresponsible it is
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while at the same time like
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not applying that far larger in scope.
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Like the weird shit that people jam into children's heads
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on a daily basis
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that reminds you so much of this kind of Alex Jones,
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like everybody around you is crazy.
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Like everybody around you has sex is going to hell.
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Like all of this stuff that you just hammer into kids
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that you just shouldn't be allowed to do.
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Nope, nope.
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That's abuse.
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That's fucked up.
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Yeah, for someone who is such a champion of the youth
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and the children,
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this sort of behavior towards children is,
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even if they're teens, it's still not okay.
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Absolutely.
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No, whatever, your brain isn't developed
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until 25 or something.
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That's when you can begin talking to me about religion.
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And that's when you can talk to Infowars.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's when you can engage with Infowars.
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Because by then you won't.
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Hopefully.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we'll be back on Wednesday
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with another little episode,
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but until then we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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That's correct.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It is at knowledge underscore fight.
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And I am at go2bedjordan.
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That's correct.
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I was on Twitter, Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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And if you'd like to download the show,
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you can go to iTunes.
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You can download.
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You can leave a review.
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You can do all that stuff or go to wherever
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podcastual apps are sold.
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Absolutely.
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Indeed.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am a Black Pyramid.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
