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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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More couple dudes, like to sit around drink novelty beverages

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Indeed we are Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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Have you ever played a regional card game?

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Did you guys have one when you were growing up?

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Like we played Euchre

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Oh sure, I know a lot of people from the Detroit-ish area

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I'm thinking of one guy specifically

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A lot of people

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Euchre

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I don't know, I don't know if it's regional

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but there was a card game called Dutch Blitz

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that my family is really big into

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Never heard of that

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It's a Mennonite card game

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My parents, my dad comes from a Mennonite family

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and I guess my mom has just joined up

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Joined up with the team?

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She's a Mennonite wonk

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She went to a Mennonite college is where they met

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even though she wasn't from Mennonite communities

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But yeah, Dutch Blitz is pretty fun

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It's a really high, fast paced, high intensity game

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Yeah

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Card game where you're trying to stack numbers on top of it

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It's crazy

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Oh you're stacking numbers?

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It's not like a trick game where you're winning hands or anything like that

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No, it's really intense and it leads to fights

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It's the monopoly of card games?

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There's a lot of accusations of cheating

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It's never a good time

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It's a fun game but it really gets out of hand

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Especially because it's always families playing together

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Naturally, naturally

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So blood feuds come up out of nowhere

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You use two hands!

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It's no good

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A resentment

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But on the box, it does say that it is a wonderful gut game

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Oh no

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Which hearkens back to these Dutch roots

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So it's Pennsylvania Dutch, not just Dutch

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Oh boy

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It's fun though, Dutch Blitz is great

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Everyone should go check it out

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Give it a shot

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This is a podcast where I know a lot about Dutch Blitz

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And the crises that come from playing it

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And I know a lot about Alex Jones

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And I don't know anything about either

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Nope

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So Jordan, today we are in the present day a little bit

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I had a bit of a struggle trying to figure out what we were going to cover on today's episode

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I went through a lot of options

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I tried to find something in the Wacky Wednesday canon

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And it came up empty

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I considered covering a spat, a very public spat that Alex Jones had with noted anti-Semite Owen Benjamin

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Who used to be one of his employees

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Sure, sure

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Until he started saying good things about Hitler

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Now that's troublesome

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I don't know who to support in that public spat

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Neither

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This is an alien versus predator situation

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Whoever wins, we die

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So I considered that, but I started listening to Owen Benjamin's live streams about Alex

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And I realized that as much as he is calling him like a drunk and an idiot, which is fun

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He's also saying some really, really fucked up stuff that doesn't have any place on this show

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Naturally, naturally

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So I figured like that's no good

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So I decided let's stay around in the present day

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And so today we're going to be looking at October 16th, 2019

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And I think this is a really messed up episode of Alex's show

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So I actually do think it is worthwhile for us to go over it

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Even if we just did do a present day episode on Wednesday

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I still think there's a different

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Different vibe?

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Different thing you're seeing here

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He's not depressed and hungover?

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He may be a little bit depressed, but it's weird

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I think that we're seeing some real dangerous trends

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Gotcha

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That I think a lot of people would be wise to pay attention to

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What they suggest may come in the future

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Portend?

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Yes

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But before we get to that, let's take a little moment, Jordan

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Say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show

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Yay

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So first of all, Chris, thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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The conspiracy grows

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Thank you, Chris

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Next, Jared, thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk

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Thank you, Jared

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You are now a policy wonk

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Thank you, Fredrick

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Thank you, Fredrick

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You are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thanks, Zack

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Thanks, Zack

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Next, Space Command Zach, right?

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Yeah, probably

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Oh, yeah, and finally I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level

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We appreciate that very much. So first of all Peter from Denmark. Thank you so much and

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Second Mary Catherine. Thank you so much. You are now both wonderful technocrats. I'm a policy wonk crikey mate

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That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson

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All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin

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Why are you pimps so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you

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Thank you so much Peter from Denmark and Mary Catherine. Thank you very much Peter from Denmark

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Does that cover all Peters from Denmark or just that specific singular Peter Peters? No, not the

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Conspiracy of Peters from Denmark. No. No, and it would be

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What would it be?

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Whoo, it would be a plethora of Peters. I like good pull good pull

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Laughter and bad. I appreciate that pull. Uh, thank you so much

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If you're out there listening and you're thinking hey, I would like to join the conspiracy of Chris's

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Maybe if your name is Chris or the plethora or hop on the pontoon of Peters, I like that or if you're just from Denmark

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But going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking the button that says support the show. We would appreciate it be lovely

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All right, Jordan, let's get down to business. Yay. So before we do though, here's an out of context drop from today's show

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I kind of like Trump's butt now. Does that mean I'm gay?

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whoo, I

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Mean I only have one question for you Dan. What's that? Why whoo

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Okay, I play that clip despite its stupidity because I want to demonstrate how this show is gonna end

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That's the sort of mode. He's in at the end

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Let's seriously well, it's gonna it's gonna end in this dumb fucking around nonsensical like hey

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I like Trump's but am I gay because of it right right right that sort of bullshit is where we're gonna end, right?

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It begins with let's kill all the libs not far off. Yeah, okay, of course

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It's mostly important to play that I think to like because as we get started with the episode

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The tone is so completely different and to know that that's where it's heading. Yeah, I think add some sort of value

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Okay, so we started off with Alex being very grandiose about the beginning of his show

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Like his show has like this real sincere very serious

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message and purpose today

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Just a minutes ago. I was

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In the control room standing over one of the riders oh

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My god, that's a headline to today's live show

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We put a page out every day that has the live feed posted right there

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You don't have to go to band on video or in full wars com forward slash show

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It's easy to share that way and it's thematically says what the broadcast deals with and there's a quote from me up there

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Saying this will be the most important broadcast I've ever done

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You

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Okay, and it will be the most important broadcast I've ever done in 25 years on air if I

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can just

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Execute laying out the information in a calm reasoned way. Oh

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So much for the

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Yeah, so much for that so much for the days after the Boston bombing too

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And this was the most important broadcasts I've ever done and my career. I guess this Trump's that yeah, yeah

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It's pretty good. I imagine he needs to self-immolate at the end of the episode for it to be the most important broadcast

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Nope, he just dicks around with Sargon of Akkad yelling a bunch of dumb bullshit

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All right, so that's again where we end the episode, right?

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So Alex say this is the most important broadcast ever if he's able to focus and execute his plan, right?

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You might be asking like why what makes it it spoiler alert. It's not the most important product

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Yeah, but that I mean that should be implied but you might ask why is

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This day so important and thankfully Alex does have an answer for that

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I've talked a lot about how I've been very frustrated the last few months on air and

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Off air. Yeah, and how my mind's been working

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Like a splinter inside of it

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But

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Wanting to

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Find the lever

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to defeat the globalist and

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Knowing that it was hiding in plain view

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But that my conscious mind simply couldn't grasp it

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You

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Then last night as I was laying in bed at about

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Midnight after I've been up here co-hosting with the debates

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the fourth round of Democrat debates in Westerville, Ohio

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it hit me and

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Then I just had great restful sleep until I woke up at 6 a.m. This morning

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and

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I woke up

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Refreshed and knew the mission that needed to be carried out. This is real weird

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Yeah, Alex has known how to defeat the globalists. He figured it out. He had a epiphany Oh

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You know what else could feel like a splinter in your brain? What's that a tumor? Maybe he has a tumor?

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Yeah, that's a possibility. I don't know so he's got easy. He's had this epiphany. He's figured out what we got to do

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It's been in plain view. I couldn't accept it. Sure. This is this is gonna end bad

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Yeah, like whatever whatever your plan is. It's either going to be the most

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Disappointing trite thing ever. Yeah, or it's going to be we got a killer. Yeah

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Yeah, you know the way he's the way he's getting into this subject

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It's like hey, you know what? It's super easy, but we could just couldn't bear to see the the solutions like oh

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You know what? I realized I realized that we need to live in the now guys we spend too much time worrying about the past

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Future we need to live in the now and the now says murder everyone

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It does feel like it could be anywhere on that spectrum from trite self-help to overtly like it's wartime. Yeah

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Yeah, or just God is gonna be good or whatever. Sure. Yeah

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That's true. That is

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Um, so I I don't I didn't know where this was gonna go and as he keeps talking we learned that I guess

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Defeating globalists involves a ritual or something. I'm not tired of Buddhism. This is a little confusing

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Then this morning

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All the blood was pumping through my brain when I was working out

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I achieved

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No that vision of understanding that I knew others will achieve

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When they carry out this ritual

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Sacrifice and then I realized that this is what the enemy fears more than anything and

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This is what?

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Night and day they work to make sure you never discover

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So we're not specific at this point at all. I have no idea

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My mind is reeling when I'm listening to this

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I'm like I am I am on the edge of my seat because like this is I'm so used to being disappointed by Alex

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I don't care if I get excited and then it's a letdown. Yeah, that doesn't affect me too much

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It's just like oh once again Alex, right?

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All right

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But I was like is what is he going to advocate for like because the way he's building this up

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This is the most important show I've ever done. I had an epiphany on the easy way to defeat the globalists

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It's it's a ritual and the globalists are afraid of me talking about this ritual like oh man

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This could go so many bad directions

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You see that viral photograph of all the blood in the basement or whatever you must have like that's the ritual

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We need to do pour blood into everyone's basements probably saw something. Yeah, who knows anyway in this next clip?

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He sort of negates most of his career naturally says that it's all child's play compared to what what we're gonna do now

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All of my previous work

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Is child's play?

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Nothing, but preparatory events

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setting the stage and what's going to come and you

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You are the answer you hold the power

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When like a plant you turn your face towards God so at this point

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I'm starting to think that maybe it's just about accepting Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, I'm starting to think that this is all just like a really

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dramatic

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call to

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Come down and and

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you know have a he's just like a guy had like a

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Um, what do they call them? The the tent the revival? Yeah, he's just it's just that that that's kind of where my head's at

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Now as I'm listening rituals baptism more regular regular old Baptist. It must be that's basically where my head's at

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Yes, I'm listening to this. I'm like, okay

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This is just you didn't have much to talk about right you probably weren't paying attention to the debate

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So you don't really have anything to cover there other than yelling your normal stuff about Elizabeth Warren and Bernie and you know

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Blah blah blah. I don't blame him for not paying attention to the debate. Sure fine, but you have a different job than him

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Yeah, that's true. And his job is supposed to be a newsman

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He's just rambling about we could I had an epiphany that we could defeat the globalists by accepting Jesus

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Isn't that something you've been saying for a long time? Yeah. Yeah, that sounds about right

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It doesn't seem like this is the fruit of an epiphany seems very much

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Just a performance that he's putting on here. It's a tree in the river

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That's covered in blood that we have to do cuz Thomas Jefferson and there's a wilting aspect or something

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Yeah, but it's about this point. It's still not entirely sure like I you know it the clues that I'm getting from context

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Lead me to believe he's just gonna be like so we accept Jesus

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Yeah, yeah, but he's not been specific and that you know the ritual you could say it's baptism you could do whatever right?

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anything's possible, but he's still not specific and so he comes back from break and

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He talks a little more. I have been spending the last three months or so very very frustrated very pregnant

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With an idea that I knew was hiding in plain view

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Right in front of me

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But my subconscious and my spirit

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Was hiding from it

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Because I didn't want the responsibility

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And also I am ashamed of myself

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And that's really the truth

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I

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I tell you this because it's important to understand that to understand why all of us

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Who don't openly consciously willfully serve darkness?

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still

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tend to bow to it and

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It's a riddle

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that if you have the answer to

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You really have the keys

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To eternity so we're still not clear on this although now I'm starting to get those sort of

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Echoes of the other day like a couple days back Alex saying that God is calling him to declare himself a leader, right?

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I'm starting to get Jesus now

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I don't know if that's necessarily the way he put it, but I'm starting to get little little kernels of that

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I'm starting to feel like oh, yeah

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Uh, Alex, are you building up to declare yourself a religious leader? Yeah full-on full-blown cult

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Let's just do it. It really it really has that feeling now, but again, he's not being specific. I don't know what he's talking about

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So in this next clip Alex admits that all along he's known how to defeat the globalists which you know raises the question

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Why haven't you done that's certainly up to this point. That's certainly the first question

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I would like a very quick solution if you already know how yep, I have known how

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To defeat the globalist all along and that's not just a statement or a claim

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But I break down how we defeat the New World Order

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Satan's world government. You're all gonna say well, of course, that's obvious. That's on its face. That's prima facie

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That speaks for itself weaponized variance. It is truth

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But knowing what's true

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Is only the gateway

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To the action spit it out then once you know that truth that you hide from

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Shut the fuck up taking on the full responsibility and then stepping into that office

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Stepping into that birthright stepping into that place

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Mmm

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God's will and what must be done. So when you start talking like that the you know, what must be done

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We've been writing from what must be done right birthright is involved. Yeah. Yeah, you're starting to make birthright

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Yeah, you're starting to make me feel a bit worried, right?

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Right, especially when you know step into that office that has the also the connotation of like claim this leadership role

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Of course, and I wouldn't think that at all

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I would just think he's rambling about nothing if I didn't talk

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Days prior about God calling him to declare himself a leader, right?

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So that that this exists this quote-unquote epiphany that he's had exists within the context

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Of that and that's troubling. Yeah, the next sentence. I'm worried is gonna be like now

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Was the Holocaust so bad I I mean you're using exaggeration but like yeah the way

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When you hear people talk, especially people of the sort of inclinations that Alex it has

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About doing what must be done. Yeah, it's generally not like positive things

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Yeah, it usually has like well, we've been pretending we don't want violence for a long time, right?

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And now it's finally time to do what must our enemies are demons. So fuck it. What must be done is going and getting ice cream

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Now to be fair to Alex at this point and you know, he's not going to go into that direction like he's not saying

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Overtly or explicitly like got to do this violence shit or anything like that

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But these tones these these these themes that are coming up in the way. He's presenting this religious epiphany

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Are just troubling they're just they're you you usually don't see them outside of really negative contexts

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We should not commit violence

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Wink wink. I did I say the wink part out loud. I didn't mean to say wink

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So Alex now gets to a little bit more

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Specifics and like if you really listen to what he's saying here about these demon enemies that he has

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I think I think you'll find some pretty troubling ideas

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So let me lay it out

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The enemy by being abused as children or having genetic

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Predestined disposition towards it by training by lust by a lot of different ways

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Prepare themselves to take on

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the

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evil

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operating system the spirit of Satan

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They they actively do that they go through rituals

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they go through training to be able to throw off any connection to God to harden their hearts and

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To willfully cut themselves off from God so they can be with Satan willfully

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We're switching to Linux

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We have to

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Consciously decide to be with God. Okay, so there's the prescription sort of we have to consciously decide to be with God

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This is not epiphany. This is the same shit. You talk about all the fucking time

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Gotcha, but as soon as Alex started talking on this episode

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I got a strong sense

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He was just going to end up with this being an evangelical speech and it looks like that prediction wasn't too far off

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Yeah

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basically from all the

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Everything he's saying his big revelation this breakthrough seems to be that his enemies are into Satan and so his buddies have to be into

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God that much more that's a huge disappointment, you know, but it always is whenever he builds something up at all

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It's never not a dud. Yeah. Yeah

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However, the interesting thing about the ways presenting things here is that he gives three examples for how people prepare to be with Satan

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And this is not something I've heard him talk about in the past

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The least interesting example is through quotes training and lust I have no idea what that means

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But I assume he watched Eyes Wide Shut recently. Yeah, that's got to be you know, what's in the back of his mind

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Yeah, the other two examples about how people prepare and he said willfully doing these things to get into Satan

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They're super fucked up and if Alex is sincere about what he's putting into the world

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I think this makes him a bigger monster than even we give him credit for

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Because apparently being the survivor of childhood abuse is preparation for being into Satan according to Alex

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Yeah, even someone is callous and cruel as Alex even from him. That's a shocking statement

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That's a really really fucked up thing to to be like

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Oh, this is part of preparation to go away from God and as troubling as that idea is

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I think his other example is probably worse. What's a genetic predisposition for getting into Satan?

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Well, I don't

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Light refracts off their skin

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How exactly does genetics play into that at all?

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There's no way that what he's saying isn't that some sorts of people are just biologically susceptible to being into Satan, right?

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Right, I would love for him to clarify exactly what sort of genetic link he's discovered here

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But I think having listened to as much of his show as I have I already know the answer

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Well, you it's quick. You can see them right away. If you know what I mean wink wink. Damn it

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Did I say wink again shit two out of the three ways?

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He's given here for how people become part of his enemy team are things that are completely out of their control

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One of them is being the victim of a crime and the other is based on genetics

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I don't understand how someone who's

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Yells about free will all the time and all that is just lumping people around like this for things that they didn't have any choice

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In mmm, like I I just I think it's really fucked up

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Well, I mean, I guess the idea behind that is if they don't have any choice to do it

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Then it's not their choice to stop doing it in the same way

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It can't what I'm saying. You can't be a free will guy and believe that right. Well, not you legitimately cannot well

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Yeah, I mean if you think everybody's a demon, I don't know

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He's he's just he's removing agency from all of his enemies

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So there's no there's no point in like these people can't do anything. They're genetically predisposed to it when he's

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Pressed to the wall in the middle of his bizarre religious rant at the beginning of this episode

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Slow rant but a rant nonetheless. Yeah, the three things that he's able to come up with examples for like

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Rituals that people willingly willfully go through and to become Satanists

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um, those are the examples that he gives and I just don't I don't think that you can I

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Don't I don't think that you can live in a society

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Well and hold those sorts of beliefs, you know what one of those rituals is. What's that?

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You Euchre you get hit a lot while you have to recite cereal. I'm pretty sure that's the names of cereal

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You know, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Yeah, it's probably yeah, so Alex has talked a little bit about this like

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Shame that he feels and this this, you know, why why if this answer is so easy

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why won't people go for it and it's because of

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Sin. Oh, okay. You feel ashamed because you're in the presence of God and

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There is the genetic sin of your ancestors

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There is the current sin that just means false programs against God's larger plan and you have this free will

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God said that the devil is able to then manipulate you to feel like you're not

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Worthy to have communion with God and that you're not worthy to be a leader

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so the average Christian or the person that's connected to God basically disconnects from God and and and thinks that well

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You know, that's something that I can't really be a part of

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Because it's so magnificent and so timeless and so powerful that you want to crawl under a rock

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now

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The occultists just want to get it completely out of the universe because then they think they wouldn't feel so bad about themselves

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I just hear their Alex talking about like more or less a rationalization for himself declaring himself a religious leader

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Yeah, because that most people won't do this because of shame and this guilt and you know

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they they won't stand in the in the presence of God because like

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It feels like he's talking about things that have held him back from declaring himself a religious leader

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Feeling like I am a pile of shit. I

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feel a psychodrama being played out more or less with but in the context of projecting it on to

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Believers in the audience, right? Right, right. I

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The thing that confuses me or it doesn't confuse me. It's obvious and it's it's stupid

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but if the vast majority of evangelical like 90% plus

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Evangelicals voted for and support Trump no matter what and he's saying that the average Christian is

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full of shit and is in league with the devil basically then I think he's saying

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He's a Satanist. That's right. Okay, one more in the bucket. You can style that in that bucket

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I don't know right anyway, we get to the solution in this next clip

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So you talk about solutions just on its face praying is the solution getting close to God is the solution

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yeah, but what's the final solution and asking God to come into you and to lead you and to guide you and to direct you and

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Then if God is in you you will go out like a heat-seeking missile

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You will go out and find corruption you will go out and you will expose it and you will have a magic touch at doing

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And the enemy will see it and will absolutely come after you but that's a good thing

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You should not have any fear of Satan or his minions and his slaves so Alex is you know, he's now

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Giving the idea I guess that you know, you accept Jesus and you get magic anti-corruption powers. Yeah. Yeah, which is good

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What if the Bible was just the Old Testament and the letter to Thessalonians is basically what we're looking at right now

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That whole Jesus stuff. Yeah, Jesus sucks, man. He's all like don't kill people and

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No, uh-huh. It's it's strange

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so I don't I don't know how much I believe necessarily in magic anti-corruption powers, but

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Whatever

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Alex goes to break and he comes back going whole hog

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Just really diving in and he's just now reading scripture

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chapter 2

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1 7 for God have not given us the spirit of fear but of power

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And of love and of a sound mind sound mind meaning we understand things

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We're not easily manipulated or lied to or conned. We have discernment we see through

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the enemy's plans

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epigenetic

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We see far

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You look at their minions they are dumbed down. They are unhealthy. They are stupid

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They'll believe one lie after the next they'll see something discredited disproven and the establishment will change

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180 and they'll adopt that right away because they are given over to strong delusion

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Yeah, that doesn't sound like you. Wow. That is a word-for-word description of himself. Yeah, it's pretty great. That is insane. Yeah unhealthy stupid

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Whenever the administration changes, he'll do a 180. Uh-huh. Holy shit. Is he dead on? Yep. That's gaslighting

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That is pretty hard

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Whoa, so now Alex has reached the point of him just reading scripture on air coming out of commercial breaks

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Which is great development sure

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He he points out that if you level up you get to use magic anti-corruption

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Touch three times per day and you only have to rest once I know the deal

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Uh-huh

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So this verse is 2nd Timothy 1 7 which is part of a letter that Paul was writing to his friend Timothy

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Who was in charge of his church and Ephesus?

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Paul was in prison at the time

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So that's why there's kind of a reassuring tone of like God has given us this sound mind. Don't worry about it

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Anyway just because it's fun here's some other quotes from 2nd Timothy that Alex should think about

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chapter 2 verse 16 says quote shun profane and vain babblings where they will increase unto more ungodliness

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I can't think of a better description of Alex's retelling of the three little pigs from Wednesday then profane and vain babbling

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That chapter also says quote the servant of God must not strive but be gentle unto all men act to teach

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Patient in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves

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I can think a few things that describe Alex less than gentle unto all act to teach right patient

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Yeah

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That's no good in chapter 4 of 2nd Timothy Paul instructs Timothy to bring him his cloak and talks about

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Alexander the coppersmith who he hopes will be punished by God just talk some shit about this coppersmith

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He doesn't like yeah, but he was a dick. It's it's a weird book. You got to give him that he was a dick

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I don't know anything about Alexander the coppersmith. Have you ever met a coppersmith?

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I've not uniformly do but my question is largely if Alex is so ready to cite this verse out of context

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Why is he silent on the matter of Alexander the coppersmith? That's a good question

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Why is Alex dodging the question of the coppersmith Alex copper myths just coppersmith Jones. I know I'm a coppersmith truther

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I think he's in the pot in the pocket of

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Alexander the coppersmith does coppersmith start with a cue no

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Oh, aha

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So in this next world, I think we get the sense that this is all just been

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Prelude to him trying to get his audience to accept Jesus and it's the realization that

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You don't have to have all the answers your wills not going to defeat Satan

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But the gifts God's given you and if you tie in to God and just say I

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Have free will but I ask you into my heart. I ask you to leave God and direct me

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and

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I ask you to show me what to do

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Then it will all follow and you will

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Experience an intensifying relationship

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As you're ready to handle it. I'm not against people who are religious. I am NOT against Christianity

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I am NOT against Christians. I'm not against Muslims. I'm not against anybody of any faith. I'm against this I

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I do not think that this is sincere. I think this is

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a guy

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Pivoting his con like I just think yeah, I think what you're seeing here is somebody who's like, all right

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I'm not making money doing this anymore

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The ship is falling apart

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Even if I get sued out of my entire existence by the Sandy Hook lawsuit, which James Fetzer just lost

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He just got his house has got to be completely worried about good

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um, so if

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You know Alex recognizes that even if I do completely self-destruct on that path

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There may be a future for me in televangelism

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Oh, absolutely Baker can go to prison for defrauding people

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And come back and now have a compound in the Ozarks and still make tons of money doing this

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Oh, yeah, Alex has to recognize that that is a safe refuge for me for sure

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And he's always been fairly religious but like the amplification of it just even in the last week has been pretty severe

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Yeah

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The I God is calling me to declare myself in a leadership position

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The first fucking hour of his show being this bizarre

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Religious pageant like I don't feel like anybody should feel ashamed of having religious

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beliefs or anything like that and it's not my business or interest on this podcast to be like

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You're stupid if you believe in God right like that. I respect everybody and their religious beliefs

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I don't respect people using it as a weapon against their audience. Yeah, and that's all I see going on here

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So when I critique this it's not critiquing somebody who wants someone to accept Jesus

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That's I it could be easy to get that twisted and that is not what I'm responding to

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I'm responding to religion being used as a trick

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Sincerely wanting to accept Jesus is as far away from what it is

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He's asking you to do as can possibly be right now. Yeah, he's just he's just like look

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I made all this money working if I become a cult leader

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I can make the same amount of money and I don't have to work

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Why didn't I do this in the beginning to an extent?

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I mean, you'd probably still do some of the same work right because his work is just yelling

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Well, Jim Baker is still he's technically still working. Yeah, right. No totally and I think it's a smart move on his part

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I don't know if that's what he's doing

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But it's the feeling that you get from listening to if you listen to an episode like this

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You're like, I don't know what this has to do with the Democratic debates. Yeah, I don't know what this has to do with Congress

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You're just trying to get people into your version of religion that you seem to be

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the head of yeah, I have a question, uh-huh if he pivots to

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religious leader situation and

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Creates his own organ is organization. Would he be able to create a Twitter account for that organization? Probably not. Oh, yeah

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Well, I mean we we learned that Tommy Robinson and Sargon of Akkad when they tried to get Twitter accounts for their

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Runs for Parliament right in the UK. They did they were still like fuck off

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Yeah, so I think that Alex probably wouldn't be able to rebrand and then come back good social media good

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But I don't know

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I mean like it would be super easy like a lot of the same stuff that he talks about could just be done in a

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Like purely religious context. Yeah, like the globalists, you know, they're just demons

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There are they already are all the stuff about animal human hybrids and the you know, all that shit could just be repackaged

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Yeah, Steve quayle one of his old guests. He's been on Jim Baker's show like he could just pivot

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Right them. Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be hard

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Yeah, close down info Wars lay low for six months become a religious figure

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I think you're golden think you might need more than six months because he does have the actual lawsuit the trial. Oh, that's true

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Yeah. Yeah, you gotta let that one. I think he's gotta sell off the warehouse

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Get enough money to weather that storm and then come back in some form

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Yes, like purely religious outlet and then any kind of like attempts at censoring him become even more compelling because he's like

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I'm just trying to block my religion or whatever and it would be one thing. I think if he was like legitimately

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Trying to just say hey

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I believe in Christianity and I want as many people to know the joys and the love that comes from

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Christianity but the issue is

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While he's trying to proselytize

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And get people into God and Jesus. He's also saying don't go to church

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See a lot of people have connections to God, but the false churches lure

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Them to them so that these Satanists and others can control you and misdirect you and because you have the real light in you

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they want to send you out to bring other people to them so they can then flip it and

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Take control of that whole flock of people and lead them

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into a spider hole

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And that's how this works so most churches, you know false churches all these false glitter bug churches out there

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Who knows who knows what exactly falls under that heading? He's not specific enough

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It's probably any church you might go to for sure really just satanic traps. Absolutely. Yeah, what church did you go to? What do you mean?

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When you were younger. Are you asking sincerely? No. Oh cuz it's a spider trap. Okay. Yeah, I mean that might be true

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It wasn't mega church. Oh, well, that's fair. But like

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Still like what you're doing here is trying to get people into a specific niche your extreme right-wing

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possibly Christian identity leaning religious beliefs

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that's what you want people to

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Subscribe to with a religious fervor as opposed to just being interested in bringing people to Jesus

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Right and that is a problem that is fucked up and he's basically saying no matter what anybody else says about Jesus

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You can only listen to me, right? Right, which is definitely not a hallmark of a cult leader at all

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Yeah, if their stuff conflicts with his stuff, they're the devil spider trap. There you go

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Yeah, and if your family goes to that church spiders spiders you stay with me

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Yeah, so Alex talks about how God wants you to marry life, but Satan wants to torture you. Okay. God wants you to marry

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into life and his creation

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Literally so death do you part it's a love affair

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Satan wants to

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Torture your soul because it's all Satan pass

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Satan is a loser

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Satan is a joke, but God did create Satan and knew what Satan was going to do as a tester because God

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Has to have his children tested and had to give us free will and can't stand to watch

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How many people fall

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But that's the way the universe works

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That's what free will is all about

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It's time to choose your destiny

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Destiny

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So he's you know going on like that's what free will is about when you've already said most of these people are

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Satanists or into the devil because of things that had nothing to do with their free will right so only white people are given free

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Well, I don't know

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I don't know what fucking contradiction how he's able to get around that in his mind somehow being obsessed with free will and then

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Maligning people because of being the victims of crimes or their genetic makeup. Yeah, it's fucking stupid

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this is all incredibly dumb and

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Kind of transparent on a certain level like I I don't know if he's gonna pull the trigger and actually go through with any

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Of those things that we're talking about like the idea of like coming back and rebranding as a church or whatever

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But if he were to do it, this is how you would start it

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This is this is the kind of behavior you would expect from somebody who wants to make that pivot

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Yeah, now I'm not predicting shit cuz Alex is a crazy person. So right, right, right, you know

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It it could that prediction could be entirely bad

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And maybe he's just in a weird mood and felt like preaching that could be yeah

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But you know a couple days ago him saying that he wanted to or God was telling him to be a leader

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You know declare himself a leader then a couple days later this popping up on the show. It just it just feels I

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Don't know messed up. Hey, no other way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember my Bible

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it seems like

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God made it clear on multiple occasions that it was blasphemous to tell him what his

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Reasons for doing anything are or even try and tell other people

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Why God does whatever he does and apparently Alex has a direct line to here's why God does everything

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Okay, I mean Alex very blasphemous

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You think you think that's blasphemy? I would say it is it would literally be remind me of taking the Lord's name in vain

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Another thing that I think is really funny is that so Alex is like, you know

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The verse that he pulled that he was reading. Yeah was from 2nd Timothy

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Mm-hmm, and I would ask him if he wants to declare himself a religious leader. I think you should read 1st Timothy also

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because in 1st Timothy 3 it discusses the requirements of someone who will be

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Considered to be a bishop. Okay in the church and go ahead. It goes church

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I bet he meets and fulfills all of them

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This is from chapter 3 verse 2 quote a bishop must be above reproach married only once temper it sensible respectable

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Hospitable an apt teacher not a drunkard not violent but gentle not quarrelsome and not a lover of money

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Those are a lot. Those are 11 qualifications Wow Alex's Oh for a life

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It's almost damn it's almost impressive how all of those do not describe him

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Couldn't even be a bishop. No, no, he can't move diagonally though. So there is that don't look he's one for 12

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Don't look at 1st Timothy only 2nd Timothy matters

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Great go talk to Alexander the coppersmith right the wrongs of Paul

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Who cares? Yeah, so anyway

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That was how Alex went out to commercial with that sort of you got to choose a side

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And here's how it comes back from commercial

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He's hit show the good doctor that routinely has 18 million viewers that's more than a Monday night football game

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dedicated an entire

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Episode a few nights ago to demonizing yours truly. It's a special report

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Is that yeah, that wasn't him live. No, he comes back to he's out of studio or whatever doing something

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I don't know what he's just playing a special report about the good doctor

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Finding another thing that a bishop requires that he can't do great. Yeah, so you go from

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Weird religious rant into special report about how there's a TV show about him. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. It makes perfect sense

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So it's true that that show the good doctor it did hit the ground running when it first started when it premiered

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In its first season and it averaged about 17 million viewers early on in that first season, but that did not last

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According to Nielsen season 2 of the show which started in September 2018 and ended in March 2019

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In that season the show averaged six point seven three one million viewers and was never higher than seven point seven

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Which was the season finale that's still not bad. No, no in the

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In the days of fractured entertainment landscapes, that's not bad at all season three

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Which is currently airing has seen a further drop in ratings with the show averaging under six million viewers for the first four episodes

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aired the reason Alex is citing the higher number is that the

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That higher number is at least two years old

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And the reason he's doing that is because you know

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The idea that a show with that many viewers would stoop to attacking Alex elevates his stature, right?

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It's an act of vanity pure and simple. It's less impressive to say that a side character was a parody of you on a show

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That was beat easily in the ratings by The Voice and Dancing with the Stars, but that would be more accurate

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Yeah, yeah

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Also, I would be remiss not to point out how this special report gave me whiplash

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Alex spent the first hour of his show basically this disturbing religious rant then he goes to commercial the show returns and it's him bragging

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About a show the super high ratings making fun of him. This show is disjointed as hell

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Yeah, like I don't know how whoever's working the board didn't come up with something that wouldn't appear to be largely

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contradictory of the

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Selflessness and yeah the religious tone of the first part of the show go going straight into I don't know pride

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It's just such ego shit, I think there is a character on Dancing with the Stars loosely based on Alex right Sean Spicer. Yeah

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So Alex comes into studio after the special report plays I'm guessing maybe he had to go to the bathroom or something like that

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He just wasn't ready. So he comes back and he complains more about this, you know, everyone

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These characters are based on me. They're demonizing me

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And as I told you at the start of the next hour, I'm gonna actually air this entire

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special report where

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dozens and dozens of movies and documentaries

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TV shows

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Admit that they are creating characters based on Alex Jones and then they

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come out and say in the news that this is Alex Jones and

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Then misrepresent who I am in an attempt to again create this false archetype

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That's in their words archetype. So I regret to inform you Jordan that the Alex Jones show is currently in reruns

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Oh

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We did this new cycle back when there was a character that was similar to Alex on homeland back when Alex was yelling about

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How that was designed to turn him into a bad guy so the globalists could kill him and then that didn't happen

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I would guess that if there are actually dozens of characters based on Alex and movies and documentaries

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Then there's a simpler explanation than they're all based on Alex

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I could see the possible explanation being that there are way more people walking around in public who sound like Alex than there used to

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be

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Creating characters on a show involves relatability and it seems like this day more people know somebody who's a bit like Alex

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If there are more characters on shows like this

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It's less likely that Alex is super popular and relevant and that's why it's more likely that the stupidity that he's championed for years

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Has become more mainstream

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Yeah

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Like in the same way that people could be getting this same sort of bullshit from Fox News now or Tucker, right?

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as opposed to usually being

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Something that those folks would be ashamed to engage in the level the level of rank overt

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Stupidity and bigotry they used to code things a lot better. Yeah, or they used to they used to code things period now

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We're we're one

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Like tiny little puzzle piece away from Tucker Carlson just saying like white people are the best. Let's kill everybody else

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Yeah, then Tucker just being like we all know that the Bible is an ancient American scripture. Oh god, we're not far not far. Ah

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so this complaining about the media demonizing him is just sort of a diversion a sidetrack for Alex and he gets back to

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religious bullshit

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This is insane

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priesthoods

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Pop up and then tell you you've got to go through them to get to the metaphysical that you know is real and

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Then that's where all

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Of the disinformation and craziness comes from and those priesthoods always end up

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Within ten generations, maybe it's usually five

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Engaging in mass human sacrifice

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To horn devil gods on top of black pyramids sure

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That matter where it was in the ancient world. They found the pyramids in Europe. They found them in Asia

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They're finding pyramids in China that they thought were more mountains and their pyramids

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And they've got underground cities in them. Okay, and boy you talk about cover-ups. Whatever has been going on in China

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Is being very covered up. Well, I guess I can't look into it then. Yeah all that other stuff

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He's talking about is complete bullshit that we've talked about in the past the black pyramids and shit

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And then the rest of the horn demons and stuff. I'm almost certain that's just childhoods end. I'm almost certain

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He's just talking about that sci-fi novel. So

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Whatever right now Alex gets into talking about how LA the city Los Angeles

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Run by demons. Okay and vampires. All right, you got others that are

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libertarian

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Pro America and they none of them live around there and they can't stand it and they will tell you

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Yes, Hollywood is run basically by vampires. It's too hot. The spirit in them is ancient the bodies die, but it's a vampire

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They drink blood

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Everything folks. Okay. Sure

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and

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You brush up against that

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And most people get really scared and either run from it or they decide to serve it

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Wouldn't that be those libertarians that you're talking about who you're you know, they decided to serve it. Yeah

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Vampires run Hollywood by being grips

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best boys on many

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Earlier in that right before this clip he's talking about know that these people are bigger than Charlie Sheen. Oh, okay

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Yeah, so they're major stars. These are not people who are like a DS. Okay

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Well, then they definitely work for vampires, right? It would have to they made millions of dollars for them to tell Alex about it

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They'd have to be like made a deal with these vampires

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This is bullshit. You know, this sounds suspiciously like if you've ever read the graphic novel American vampires

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it's very good and it just opens in the 1920s with

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Vampires running Hollywood and eating people left and right this sounds also

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Suspiciously like the shit Charlie Sheen would probably tell Alex in the middle of one of his coke binges. Yeah, that does sound right

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Yeah, so I don't know how much I believe this. Anyway, you might ask yourself like, alright, there's demons everywhere. They've taken over

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All this shit right infinitely powerful, but you can defeat them very easily by believing in God, but why Jordan why?

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Has God not destroyed us yet if demons have taken over and they're running amok, right?

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Why has God not destroyed us like Noah?

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I want to know the answer

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And believe you the only reason we're not in nuclear war and mass death and the hedge of protection already removed from us

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is

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because God

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Loves our ancestors that prayed for us and

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That understood what was happening and understood that these times were coming and we're literally praying hours a day

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quietly

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silently for the future

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So God is only not destroying us because we have a built-up bank of prayers right because our ancestors prayed a bunch

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We're you know, but there's a prayer trust. Of course, it's gonna run out like Social Security. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah eventually unless we

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Well Social Security will run out under the assumption that no one pays into it, right?

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It won't run out as long as people keep so I guess Alex is kind of saying that we all need to pray like crazy

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Right because the trust will run. He's a socialist prayer guy. This is so that's what it is. So he believes in socialist prayer, right?

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Great, I don't I don't even know what to say to that. We're not being destroyed because our ancestors prayed enough

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Man, very very weird. I want to I want to I want a number I want a number

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What's the correct amount of prayer some prayer accounting?

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Yeah, cuz if there's a if you have a situation where there's enough prayer coming from your ancestors

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That means that there was a point wherein it became enough prayer like what's over under for how many prayers you need

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It also implies the human race going it also implies on some level that there is a need that God has for prayers

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Oh, yeah, like otherwise, why would there be a line? It's almost like he's a fucking vampire for prayers

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It's very weird. So anyway, Alex starts yelling about DMT

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I think he's actually talking about ayahuasca, but he

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Talks a bit about DMT and how if you take it you're seeing demons

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And trying to get back on Joe Rogan again

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I think he might be

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Because the only thing that's gonna contact you in those dimensions is bad stuff cuz God ducked his hands off

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Oh devil and his boys aren't and if you want to take a bunch of DMT and hang out with a bunch of

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Gray aliens and green elf outfits knock yourself out

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Because I know a bunch of people in the building have taken it and

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If you're a Christian or you're somebody that's aware of this stuff, they're not very friendly because they know they're not gonna get you

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And how about spending the equivalent like 50 years in a dungeon with them torturing you

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How's that for a five minute trip to the other dimension? I guess five minutes

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That probably is DMT as opposed to ayahuasca. Yeah, so he had a bad trip or what?

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Yeah, I would say there's an alternative explanation

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That's completely possible for why these sorts of Christians that Alex hangs out with had a bad time taking DMT

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And it literally has nothing to do with literal demons from everything

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I've read or heard about the experience taking DMT or ayahuasca

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Puts a person into a state where some of the things that they've been struggling with on a subconscious level and maybe trying to ignore

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Become very clear to them

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I have friends who have taken it and said it was a challenging experience where they were forced to confront and work through a lot

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Of stuff that they've been suppressing

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I have one friend who's a super happy-go-lucky type of person who took it and said it was just really interesting like a good

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Hallucination kind of experience the point is a lot of what you experience in those states depends on what you bring to the table

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It's certainly not the case for all Christians

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But I would guess a lot of the sort of Christians who Alex is associating with might be a particular sort of Christian

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They might be a bit on the fire and brimstone side of the equation

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They might be the sort to argue pre and post tribulation rapture really aggressively

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They might be the sword who are stuck in the part of Christian belief that emphasizes that humans are deficient by nature

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Taking those sorts of beliefs into hallucinogenic experience like this is

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Often going to be a bad experience since these beliefs don't really stand up to scrutiny all that

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Well, all you have to base them on our feelings and your beliefs about this stuff. Yeah, that's no good

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I don't want to take DMT and then start reading sinners in the hands of an angry. God. Yeah, that's not the way

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I want to go you don't need to give you a bad trip. All you need is some kind of insecurity

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About the idea that an all-loving God would create existence as a cruel test and your subconscious will do the rest

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Oh, yeah, it's pretty good at it any kind of feelings that you've been suppressing about your beliefs

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You'll be confronted with and if you try and fight it like I know from taking acid and mushrooms in the past

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that the way that one of the ways that you can end up having a very bad time is by

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Fighting thoughts. Yeah. Yeah, and the same is true of you know, even weed to a lesser degree

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You'll end up like trapped in

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weird

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Conflicts with yourself that you don't really need

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There's there's a path that you can go on. Yeah

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No, I suspect that anybody who works for Alex would not be able to handle being confronted with

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Subconscious things that they are like if you work for Alex, you know on some level that you work for a liar, right?

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Like just that taking a hallucinogen would be a nightmare. Yeah, the guilt of that

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Yeah, and then like Ken Kesey and the the electric Kool-Aid acid test cats

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They always emphasized having a guide there with you anytime you go on any of those trips

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You want a guide there to comfort you and to keep you on the path instead of getting lost in that and you don't want

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To take drugs with Alex as your guide. I'm sure not something I want to do. I'm sure they didn't

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Yeah, I'm sure Alex didn't take they didn't take DMT around Alex. That would be a nightmare be the worst

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Oh god, he would turn into a demon so fast

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Yes, I don't think there's anything to be said for like Christians being particularly tormented by DMT demons

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Yeah more that this sort of Christians that Alex probably hangs out with probably have a lot of unresolved stuff

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They need to work through it gets brought up in the state of a hallucinogenic trip and they experience that as demons

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Torturing them for their beliefs and it's all a bunch of bullshit

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But Alex has one other citation on this and it's a guy that I've met

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I'll explain this again

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You

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Eric Muller man cow famous syndicated talk show host that guy sucks

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He went to Costa Rica

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Took DMT with 50 people as he said 45 people with medical doctors running it

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paid at least

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$15,000 to do it and they all saw the same aliens come out of the forest and talk to him

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Everyone saw the damn aliens and then a couple people have the aliens jump into them and take them over

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But the doctors were there to help

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No, folks. It was feeding time man cow

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Hmm

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I don't believe this story and here's a few reasons why first it involves man cow. So this is bullshit. Yeah the job

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Yeah, yeah second. There's zero chance that man cow paid

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$15,000 for an ayahuasca retreat in Costa Rica

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There's a group called Sultara that offers retreats and for their one-week retreat their most expensive package is just under

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$7,000 and that's for two people who get to stay in a private couple suite and it covers all the costs for the week

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That you're there like food everything dude. Honestly, that sounds kind of affordable. Yeah, like it's not possible for me. No, not at all

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You still have to pay for the flight

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There's no way that man cat would be able to hit

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$15,000 unless he was doing a three-week retreat for two people at this and Sultara is like a pretty

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Like resort. Yeah. Yeah, so like that's high-end, right?

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I wanted to know more so I went to listen to an episode of man cows

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Podcast where he talks to the guy who runs the retreat that he went to

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He went to a place called rhythmia and if you look it up it costs

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$300 a day man cow would have to have been there for 50 days for it to hit

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$15,000 Jesus was only in the desert for 40 man man cow can't know

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I can't last that long man cow says on the show that he was there for a week

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So it's likely that he paid about two grand which is pretty standard for people who go and do non-luxury

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Trips like this the entire episode of man cows show is about how ayahuasca is a medicine that helps people overcome trauma and reconnect

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With themselves, there's no conversation about everybody seeing the same aliens. There's no demon possession

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Nothing man cow talks about recovering memories from his past and says that some of them were even beautiful to him

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He asks the guy who runs with me about the guides or clockwork elves and man cow

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Explicitly says quote. I didn't see any of that

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It's all bullshit. If you actually listen to bank house podcast at this guy. It's one of the more like I was

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Man-cow, I was shocked. Yeah, because he wasn't being

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A giant shit bag. Yeah, it's very unlike the experiences that I've personally had with man cow

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And other times I've heard him

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Yeah

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He's talking about how like a friend of his was having a really really hard time and needed to go to this

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Retreat and I can't remember exactly if it was like the friend of his went before and that's why he went or if they went

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Together, but whatever the case he went and he said that it was a really interesting

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experience and the guy who's on is just talking about it in the context of you know, you go and you're shown these

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Important moments in your memories and your past. Yeah places where parts of you became alienated from yourself

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yeah, and it offers you the opportunity to

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Confront those things from your past and move past them. There's like it's it's it's shockingly. I

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I don't even know what the right word is, but just fine

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Yeah, I think that's a great way of putting it there is it was fine

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there's even a conversation between him and this dude who runs the resort talking about the difference in belief of like

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Whether it's a mystical thing or a chemical thing

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Yeah, and the guys like I don't really care if you believe if you believe that it's a chemical thing

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Then that's your experience and that's great. That's awesome

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Yeah, if you have a chemical experience that allows you the same benefit as somebody else who believes it's a mystical experience

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What's the reason we should argue about right? Right? There's there is no like there's no

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Orthodoxy, there's no there's no there's there's no aliens. You would think there's no Keebler aliens

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Mancow does a half-hour episode talking to the guy who runs the retreat right and everyone there saw the same

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Alien and got taken over by really seems like that would have come up. It feels like that would be that would have been

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High on the list and I don't think Mancow is the kind of person to shy away from that out of politeness

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To the guy who runs the resort

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happened the first thing that the opening of that podcast would've been like this motherfucker made me see aliens and I got eaten right that

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Would've been the first line if I know Mancow. Yeah, it would absolutely be within his repertoire

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He is a giant piece of shit. So and the other thing that like, you know, the only thing that's even close is

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That the guy who's on this podcast with Mancow does mention that he's had

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Experiences taking ayahuasca where he and somebody else who had taken it had a shared experience

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And to the extent that that is subjective and or even if it is both of their subjective experience

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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's real

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I don't I don't know I but I also believe that it there's a possibility that it could be maybe

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But I also don't think that proves anything you hear similar stories from people about like meditation. Yeah, and

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lucid dreaming

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You know you hear you hear that's the shared

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subconscious experience in other avenues

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I think that that's something that people we might learn more about as we get a greater understanding of how our brains work

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Yeah, I think that's also another

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Part of that like I don't care if you think it's chemical or mystical. That's cool

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Did you hurt yourself? Did you hurt somebody else? No, you only benefited

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Well, then fine you shared a subjective experience with somebody else, right? Cool. And that's as far as it goes in terms of like

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There's nothing about

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demons nothing about aliens

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That's why they

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Aren't tell it's suspicious in it up in its absence. Dan if they told you about Alex

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Nobody's coming to the retreats anymore

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And if that's the case

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Then Alex should think man cow is evil

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Because the function of that podcast then would be just to get more food for the aliens or whatever the demons

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So man cow would be an active promoter of feedin time. Yeah. Yeah

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What's her phrase from next year? Right? Yeah, so that none of this works. No, it's all stupid

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Yeah, and I think Alex is just making shit up knowing that man cow isn't going to correct it

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I agree. So Alex gets back to talking about Satan

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I mean he has been sure and he makes a transition from talking about Satan to the news of the day

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And it's a little jar. We're sitting here with our memories wiped

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Sure in the test

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Satan's memories not wiped. Oh, no Satan remembers it all

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Oh photographic memory computer memory

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Okay, now there's a ton of news the debate last night Tulsi Gabbard

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Got up there and was

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Anti endless war. Okay. This is too much. Oh boy

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Satan has photographic memory long pause any of the debates are last night about that Tulsi

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Oh, man, Satan

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Photographic memory show is a farce Tulsi Gabbard's weird, huh? What else is in the news?

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That was that's a shitty open my comic

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Yeah

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Alex can't really get into the debates though and he doesn't at this point really at all except to say that Tulsi is like

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He's sort of suggesting that she you know, she's good because of this endless war thing

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But I think that she is just there in order to take out Trump. She's the dark horse or whatever. Sure fine

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Whatever. I don't know. I don't know what I'm not but he only touches on this for a little bit because he's got to get

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Back to talking about the good doctor and how they're making fun of him really feel like he doesn't

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By the way Seth Gordon the producer of the show that says to the Hollywood Reporter others that this show was to target me

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Turns out he works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations World Development Fund

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That's right. That's who he works for. And of course Bill and Melinda Gates funds a lot of the shows on ABC

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Really? We're looking into the funding of that, but they keep good luck

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Yes, that won't be in a shareholder document until later. But that's the first entry is Bill and Melinda Gates

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Foundation and the United Nations. I look forward to him revealing this research

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So it turns out that Alex has done some deep digging on this and by that I mean he's gone to Seth Gordon's

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Wikipedia page and read that he directed videos for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the UN caught him

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If we're gonna play this game, let's at least make it fun

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Seth Gordon also directed the King of Kong that documentary about the Donkey Kong world record. Yeah, that's Satan

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So why not work that into the conspiracy Bill and Melinda Gates trying to fund Donkey Kong

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That dude was lying and he faked the whole thing. So there you go. There's no citation on his

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What work he did with the Gates Foundation or the UN but I'm gonna guess it has to do with the six months

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He spent teaching in Kenya

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Jesus

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According to an article about him in Reuters promoting his upcoming film for Christmases, which he also directed

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Sure quote after discovering that the Kenyan infrastructure leaves school building to the locals

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He helped get philanthropic UN financing to finish up

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Shimon Yaro's school and then filmed the students and residents as they experienced the ensuing changes

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His work was he was working towards a documentary called building Shimon Yaro

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And if I had to guess this is where the path intersects with the Gates's and the UN

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Either that or Bill Gates secretly funded the Baywatch movie starring the rock which gate Gordon also directed

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Everybody knows only Satan believes in more than one Christmas

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I don't have any evidence and neither does Alex that he works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or the UN

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but that his past path probably intersected with their interests and the sort of things that the Development Council

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Might get involved with while he was trying to help build schools in Kenya. Yeah years ago. Yeah, this is like 2010

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I believe so it's like what why why why are you doing this?

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Yeah

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You know another problem with income inequality is their never-ending amount of billionaires to update your

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Bullshit conspiracy theories on like you start with the Rothschilds or whatever. Then you move on to your fucking

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Name them

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And then you you wind up with Soros and then you go to Gates and then it's never ending, right?

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If we just tax the rich Alex will have to blame the government all the time

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He won't have those other guys that might not be a great development for his rhetoric. Yeah, but who knows? I don't know

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I don't care right don't care. Well, it's just like

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This is the same thing as saying the good doctor has 17 18 million viewers

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Yes, it's to elevate who's making the attack on you

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This guy happened to direct a video about that had some funding from the Gates Foundation in the UN when he was trying to help

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A small Kenyan school get built which was in

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Intersected with their interest. Yeah, he doesn't work for them. He's directing movies and TV

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It's just crazy. It's the only it all it does is to serve to make it look like aha

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This is part of the targeted attack upon me

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Look at how powerful the people are who are attacked when in reality, you know

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It's probably just like hey, here's something that we could put into an episode

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There's an archetype that's goofy and ripe for parody. Yeah, not hard. Nope speaking of not hard

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Uh, it's not hard to book dumb guests on your show and Alex has done just that Sargon. Well

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Benjamin Sargon of Akkad is back in studio with us. He is a smart cookie. Look forward to

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Him right shot. You want this to cover the waterfront and I just talked to me just got here ten minutes

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So I said, what do you want to cover first?

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So Carl is on what is Sargon of Akkad want to cover first the debates? Oh, okay

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They'll get to that here in a moment. But first Alex has to justify Trump's behavior vis-a-vis Syria

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Sure, which is interesting

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All right again, how could anybody ask for anything better? That's the exact strategy

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It's not our war two plus million have already left Turkey the last few years into Europe now

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There's 3.5 million who aren't even really from Syria all over the world that try to take over Syria now

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they've gone into Turkey and Turkey says we're kicking you back into there and the Russians have come in to fill the vacuum and

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Erdogan has gone, you know is going to Russia to meet with Putin

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Pence is going out there and they're gonna work it out and it's gonna be done

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Putting the baby to bed ending the war that the deep state started. I don't know how anyone

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Could not support that. I think there are a few ways. I think there's a few

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Um, so yeah, that's where he's at now, which is weird all roads lead back to Putin, huh?

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I guess so

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Yeah

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So Sargon has a little bit of an interesting take on this and I'm gonna stop calling him that because his name is fucking Carl

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Carl has an interesting take on this and that is that Alex's seems to be presenting this as you know

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They're gonna get they're taking the troops out, you know and Carl realizes that well

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I mean he also sent troops to Saudi Arabia, which is true

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Yes now Mike down for this because pay pay attention to how this exchange goes

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Because I think this low-key is one of the most revealing clips that we maybe have ever played. Okay

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What do you make of what you just saw Trump say?

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Trump is doing what he said he would do. He said this in 2016

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He said that he would pull out of the Middle East and I think there's an important distinction to be made there

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He means he means the war zones in the Middle East

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People are saying well, he's sending X amount of troops to Saudi Arabia

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He's he's kind of obliged to they're an ally of yours. So it's one of those things where it's not a homogenous zone

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He's sending missile defense systems. Yeah, I think he's sending troops as well

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Yeah, yeah, so

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First of all by the logic that Saudi Arabia is our ally

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So Trump has to send troops to support them over there then he's similarly obligated to protect the Kurds

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They're one of our allies in the region and have been on our side in a far more real way than Saudi Arabia

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That argument first also didn't do 9-11

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That argument falls completely apart upon any examination

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So strike one Carl nonsense now Carl is saying that in order to justify what's you know?

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Why it's good to send troops to Saudi Arabia and it's not in any way a contradiction of the promises Trump made to bring troops

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home now ignore for a minute that Alex was convinced recently by Joel Skousen that Trump taking troops out of northern Syria was going to

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Lead to a larger war and more troops going in because this goddamn show exists outside of context

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Alex's obviously

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Intentionally ignored Trump's sending troops to Saudi Arabia from everything. I've listened to this is just something that he's pretending didn't happen

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Because he knows he can't justify it at all

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That's why when Carl brings it up Alex first tries to pretend that what's really happening is that Trump is sending the missile defense systems

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But Carl doesn't realize that this is not a welcome talking point on Alex's show

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So he tries to correct Alex because he doesn't know any better

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The Trump is sending troops and the only way forward now is to accept a compromise

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Namely the Trump is sending troops, but only a couple to man the missile defense systems, right?

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You see how that works there that back and forth is so revealing. All he's doing is sending IT guys

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That's all he's doing. That's so revealing because that what that is is a

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an

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Uncontrolled variable entering Alex's controlled bubble. Yeah, and then how you see how it's mitigated you see the

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Conversation that's happening is very clear. The message that Alex is sending is stop it

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Yeah, stop it and and you know Carl knows well enough to be like, oh, yeah

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Okay, and he can tell that there's pushback on this very real thing. And he's like, oh, why would anybody push back on that?

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Oh it contradicts it

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Alex is lying because he can't afford to tell the truth

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The missile defense systems are sent last month along with a couple hundred troops to Saudi Arabia

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And that was a response to the attack on Saudi oil interests

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The Trump is blamed on Iran in October on October 11th

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The New York Times reported that Trump was sending approximately 3,000 additional troops, which were not just people to man the missile defense systems

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Alex is so full of shit

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But that clip is very special to me because it demonstrates malice

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Carl has no idea what things from the real world are. Okay to talk about on info wars and which are not

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No, but it's

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Right Alex intentionally protects his audience from some information about reality that might lead them to realizing that he's misleading them

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so Carl thinks that he can just speak freely because Alex yells about free speech all the time and

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Alex has to nip that in the bud and then create a new reality to explain away the verboten information

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That's just been introduced to the show without Carl putting that stuff out there. This would never come up Carl

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I get it the goal poster on ice, but please I don't want the ice to break. Come on, man

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We can't move them too much, right?

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And it shows that Alex has awareness that's outside of the things that he talks about

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Yeah, like he knows that you know, more troops are being sent to Saudi Arabia course he does and he just pretends man

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Let's not talk about that. Yeah, so then they get to talking about this the situation a little more

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It's like hey, you know, why is the left all mad about us taking troops out?

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I thought they were into leaving the Middle East

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I'm old enough to remember when the left wanted us to pull out of the Middle East and

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Now to hear them screaming about how we should stay there is an amazing last night's debate. Did you watch it?

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Yes, I did. But the the question that the left really needs to ask itself in this regard is

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Do we have the moral mandate to impose our version of human rights on the Middle East?

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Because people in the Middle East broadly don't agree with what we consider to be human rights

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So I find that to be a really interesting perspective

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The Carl is putting forth the idea that people in the Middle East don't seem to have much of an interest in human rights

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Or at least the as the rest of the world defines it, you know

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I think there are some people who don't have as much of an interest in human rights, right?

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But I would say the the like what we would call the people or people

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They're really into it and they're against being gassed by their own leader

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Yeah, usually I I think that's probably the case and I'm not sure Carl's basing his ideas on I'd love to see some data

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I suppose he could be talking about a number of polls that have been done that show a trend in countries in the region of

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Not believing in equality for women you could see things like that as signs of an unsalvageable difference in cultures

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Or you could realize that the polling numbers would look really similar if you did them in the US in the 1950s

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No kidding. A lot of this just seems unfounded and based on deep cultural hatred towards Muslims

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I really don't see that any other way to look at this

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So I kind of get the sense that what Carl is doing is just assuming that the terrorists and extremists are

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Completely representative of the people of the region and that does not seem fair

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It seems like this is based on feelings also also also

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Fuck you Carl Carl. Human rights are not defined differently

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They're just human rights

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That's it and and look dude earlier this year secretary of state Mike Pompeo announced the formation of a Commission on unalienable rights

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Which he said would quote revisit the most basic of questions

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What does it mean to say or claim that something is in fact a human right?

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He went on to say quote, how can there be human rights? We possess not as privileges

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We're granted or even earned but simply by virtue of our humanity belonging to us

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Is it in fact true as our Declaration of Independence?

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Asserts that as human beings we all of us every member of our human family are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights

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Oh god, what a fucking monster. Is this a State Department or an undergrad philosophy class?

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You know if you want even our rights, you know what I mean, man if you hear someone in Trump's cabinet floating questions

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About whether or not people have rights just because they're people you better prepare yourself for the answer

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They come up with to be maybe not or worse

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Yeah

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I've found that when people insist on asking long ago answered questions

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It generally means that they don't like the answer that everyone already came to it's not odd

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Yeah, a commission like this does not exist to strengthen or celebrate human rights

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It exists to ask a completely different question, but hide that and the question they're asking is what can we get away with?

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Yep, it doesn't make things look any better when you learn that glad

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Protested the Commission having found overt anti-lgbtq statements made by seven out of the nine members appointed to the Commission

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Oh way, and there were a whole ton of anti women's right to choose sentiment in there, too

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Who woulda guess that's what this is about Jesus Christ

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My point is I guess that is the point being that there's human rights issues all over the place

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Yeah

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I don't know what Carl is talking about when he says that the Middle East isn't into human rights like we are and since he

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Doesn't give me any citations to go on

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I kind of just have to assume that he just feels that way and doesn't care about other instances of human rights issues

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Around the world, you know what I find very funny. There is almost a

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There's a very suspicious parallel between what we did to Iran

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In the 70s and 80s and what Russia is doing to us right now because in Iran

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There was a far more open and egalitarian society and then we helped install a repressive

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fucking theocratic nightmarish

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regime and Russia in

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Basically did the same thing to us. It's very fascinating. That is interesting. Maybe you should write a book about it

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Maybe I should Dan. Okay, maybe I should so

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Sargon of Akkad

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aka Carl

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He is he's a guy who is no he's a commentator. He's up on things. He knows about shit

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So that struck me as weird when he says that he doesn't even understand why people are talking about impeachment

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Hmm, I'm not even sure what the grounds for impeachment are. What are they even saying?

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That it should be is it is it regarding the the phone call that he had with the president?

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Well, that's the excuse they're using the real crime. Is that John Bolton who literally will thinks we can survive nuclear wars

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He's just a stark raving man lunatic

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Well, if you read his divorce files, it's really amazing

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And you would expect that he dresses in leather dominatrix outfits and he does reportedly

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I mean this guy's psychotic and anyone that mustache you can't trust and he literally is mad that Trump won't launch all these wars

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So this is he's cooked all this up. So that's the explanation for it

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Also, well, you got a kink shame Bolton. There's so many better ways to attack him

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I mean also by the way with that don't can't trust anybody with that mustache

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For the longest time would Steve pochenik hadn't revealed his you know

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He was just hiding when he blurred his pictures when he was in Korea

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And yeah, the only picture Alex had of him was from the 70s with that huge perfect mustache

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Not a giant mustache, but it was a pretty big mustache. So don't trust people with that mustache out man. Maybe he's onto something

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That's why he didn't like anything until blue bloods wasn't a big fan of yeah, so Alex, you know

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He you know, this is all a bullshit John Bolton was just mad that he couldn't get his wars

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And so he he's he's doing all this

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Great, that's so annoying. Yep. It's so annoying. I I get it if you

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like

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Because it's so stark

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They have to go so far in the opposite direction

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Like if it was just a little bit of that if it was just a little bit of that phone call and there was no

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Other information they could be like, oh well

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You're all blowing it out of proportion and they could at least acknowledge that it exists because it's so obvious how criminal this

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Enterprise is they're just like I don't even know what they're talking about. I've never heard anything

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I don't know. I can't hear I'm dead like it's just so hard to the to the

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Delusional to the denialist. It's a mess. So they get to talking about the debate and it turns out Alex is kind of pro-tulsi

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Which is weird considering that sure by his own definition. She's a gun grabber. Yeah, which seems weird

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It seems like he literally hates anybody who indicates like he screamed about Dan Crenshaw because he was in favor of red flag laws

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yeah, he hates everybody who indicates in any way that they're interested in guns being taken or

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Restricted so it's weird that in this clip. He's speaking about her positively

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But also brings up that she wants gun grabbing

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Tulsi just blows away everybody else on the stage. She obviously has some spark. She says some terrible things

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I disagree with like no due process cut red flag loss

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I'm not supporting her but she came out and said we need to end these wars and she came out and said quit calling Joe

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Biden racist

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You know when the left you pushes that it's totally made up and then she said that the previous debate and she also said

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Impeachment is dividing the nation. Let's go ahead and play her talking about

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Impeachment last night. So I mean like you can say that she said some good things, but everybody else ever

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Ever who is in favor of red flag laws or gun regulation is a fucking demon. Yeah, I

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Don't get it. It's almost like he knows she's insincere. I

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Don't get it

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Anyway, I think it's probably just because he thinks Tulsi's hot. Yeah, okay

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She's very attractive in the things she says and physically compared to them, but there's just

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some people are really concerned that this is

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You know mental judo or something a sneak attack that really they're really planning to act like she's the dark horse

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They're holding back from us, but then she will surge onto the stage and it's really a young bad news

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I I think that the the Democratic Party themselves won't let her win. She's the only lucid candidate they have

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Really young in fact the only two that's who we got and that's because they're not radical Trump hating lunatics

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Well, you ain't said that too. Well, let me talk about you said he said impeaching Trump's not gonna fix the economy

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No, so I think there's an interesting thing that everybody's got to be kind of aware of and that is that this world likes Tulsi

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Gabbard and Andrew Yang

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Universally, yeah, I don't know why

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Wink, but I it's strange. Yeah, it's very strange that those two are the candidates that people in the

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Extreme right-wing like Alex are cool with weirdly and people who are you know more?

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I don't even know what you'd call Carl quite frankly just a shithead just a fucking monster

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He's just a shithead. I'm gonna call him Sargon of a Carl. I'm not sure it's gonna happen

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I'm not sure if it's fair necessarily to call him like the same kind of far right as Alex

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But he is certainly he's certainly a shithead

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Yeah, then they're all they're all on board with Gabbard and Yang which is weird

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You see the same thing from Robert Barnes weirdly strange. Why don't know who knows?

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I mean, obviously the obviously we know the answer but god damn it. Fuck them. So in that clip earlier when Alex and

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Carl we're having a little bit of a negotiation about whether or not Trump is about what's real. Yeah. Yeah

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That was one of those moments. I thought was really illustrative of how this works on Alex's show

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like you cannot counter his narrative and if you do you will be given a gentle push like Alex did there and if you don't

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Fall in line. It'll probably turn. He'll hang up on you

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and the interview Carl what the route of

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acquiescing to Alex thus the interview continues and now Alex pulls a power move where he makes Carl report on an article that

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He hasn't read

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Quitters made some announcements. We'll tell you about a next segment

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Carl tell us about it. Yeah, I haven't seen this article previously, but it's on Russia today

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But I I think it's probably accurate. No, it is Twitter announced it

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Yeah, so apparently world leaders are not immune to

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Deplatforming if they cross some red lines which include promotion of terrorism

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Doxing child sexual exploitation promoting self-harm and in the most obvious dig at Trump clear and direct threats of violence against an individual

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And so how this works is if Trump tweets the thing where he's smacking down the CNN

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Reporter is a joke. They banned that he already did that and they haven't banned him. Why like there is

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No reason to for Alex to say hey Carl

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Why don't you report on this article that you haven't read you can hear the hesitance in in Carl the I this is from RT

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I guess it's right. Hey, Carl looks stupid, right and then he's reading it

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It's like why what why would you have any issue with Twitter having rules where world leaders can't do that list of things. I

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That list of things is a very clear world leaders should not be able to do those. Yeah. Yeah also

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If you're openly saying in a the most active dig at Trump

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They're banning outright calling for violence against someone specifically, right?

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You're saying that Trump outright calls for violence against people specific or at least fine with that very least should be able to

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Yeah, exactly, which what a seems bad fucking car

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of a coward now that Carl has

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Allowed this to happen and he's gone along with it. Alex decides to start humiliating him by speaking in a British accent

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You don't want to the internet to bleach and find me that clip. I I want Kamala Harris

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Harris talking about censoring the president

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Immediately. Yeah

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It's a good English accent

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Yes

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Do you think my IQ just went up no my good man

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I would be terrible offense

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This is bad riffing

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This is this is a disaster

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Like you can I think that Carl's laughter is probably just like slightly discomfort and laughing at Alex

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Yeah, like this is uncomfortable as shit that is and like a great riff of like sure

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You know, I'm gonna get into like ah, we got a fence. I would be terrible at fencing

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That's not the act of somebody who's like I like what's happening. No, that's not a yes, and that's no no

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What a boot leak boot licker got that's that is exactly how Saruman treated worm tongue

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Like you are a little boot licking piece of shit

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You are nothing to me. So now Alex has got it into him though that he loves doing accents

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He's starting to have fun with that short

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So Carl wants to talk kind of more seriously right and like so Kamala Harris had

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you know suggested that Trump should be kicked off Twitter and

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Carl wants to talk about that Alex wants to fill out his character real

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But yeah, I mean like I can't believe the candidates just calling for open censorship of the president the United States, but that to me is

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Wild it is wild. I want to talk about that when we come back. What do you think of Yosemite Sam? Oh, that's good stuff. So look that's good stuff. We need universal health care the people are you know, there's a lot of people who are dying because of

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Inability to access appropriate care

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They we shouldn't be living in a society where people are using

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Crowdfunding in order to hey, what do you think about Bugs Bunny? So good. God, damn it. God, damn it

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You are talking to a child and it is so funny exactly. Oh and you have to succumb to his whims

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No, or else it's gonna go very yeah. Yeah

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so they start playing this clip of Kamala Harris and

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Alex has some criticisms of Elizabeth Warren sure over the video and I think it's also telling of this is

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his infantile brain

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65 million Twitter followers and is using that form as the president of the United States to openly intimidate

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Witnesses to threaten witnesses to obstruct justice and he and his account should be taken down

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We saw in El Paso. I make physical comments

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So, you know, you know who does things because they're not supposed to children. Yep. That's a basic part of like cognitive development

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You're supposed to make it through pretty early

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But here we see a 45 year old self-described genius defending his use of physical insults against Elizabeth Warren by saying he's doing it

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Because people say he shouldn't this is also what you expect to hear like from a rebellious teen trying to justify how they started

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Smoking not from an adult who spent the first hour of his show rambling about being on a mission from God

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It's all good and I choose to do this show

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but Jordan

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We're fast approaching a point where my analysis is just going to be a broken record where I shame the people in Alex's life for

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Not recognizing warning signs. And yeah, it's true that a lot of things that are really troubling about what Alex is doing

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They could be elements of a performance

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But I would rather error on the side where like taking this seriously these symptoms that he's manifesting

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Oh, yeah in the case that he's putting on an act

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Then all that happens is I look stupid for being concerned about a con man putting on a show

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if he's sincerely operating with this kind of diminished levels of

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Functioning it's only a matter of time before something goes horribly wrong and I guess I hope I end up looking stupid then

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Like I just like you can't you can't you can't be around this and not stop it. I just can't

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It's just pathetic not Lisa

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I mean even if it's even if we're talking about him putting on an act

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This part of him talking over Kamala Harris about Elizabeth Warren looking

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This is just because they tell him not to yeah. Yeah, this is a

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Fourth grade fucking assembly. They're all in a goddamn gym. Somebody is giving a talk and he's talking to his friend while they're talking, right?

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That's it. He's a fucking child. Yeah, and that's not even that's not something that you act

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That's just him and and it's obviously intended to make people angry

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You know, like it's obviously trying to get negative attention from people from like who would be like

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How dare you criticize this woman's appearance and sure I mean, but that's what children do too. They thrive on this negative attention

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It's it's the pestering and yeah

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It's just he's operating on an adolescent level while at the same time

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Saying that God is asking him to declare himself a leader and going on this religious quest which is also something children do

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it

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Could be something that children do but it's also something that is very difficult for even adults to pull off responsible. I

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Just I mean responsibly is the word there isn't it?

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It is something that's going to probably get annoying in our present-day episodes me giving little speeches

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Specifically directed to anybody who might work it in for wars who's listening. Mm-hmm guys

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ladies call a doctor someone can help him one and they should

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Because this is not somebody who's well

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Yeah, and you just feel like all those jobs are people riding this horse until it dies like maybe are

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Horse until it dies. Hope it pays. Well and never do ayahuasca in the future. Yeah, okay

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Cuz you got guilt buddy. I hope you do. I have you ever heard of Lady Macbeth

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I think you guys might find her instructive

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so in this next clip Carl and Alex are talking about how Alex got kicked off social media and they demonized him because of

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Sandy Hook and

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in this clip, it's a minute long and

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Alex straight-up lies to Carl's face about what he did

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But either way you you took your position on Sunday at Bank didn't you you know you I I want to be clear they put

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I always question big events. I mean this whole ABC just aired fake video, you know, supposedly Kurds being attacked

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They put out babies and incubators. So they misrepresented what I said

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Then I was approached and they said look just apologize if you think it happened because I've been saying for five years

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I think it happened. I said I see why people could think it's totally fake as other stuffs been fake

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And they came to me and I see Megan Kelly here and I kept saying I think it happened

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I think it happened and then she edited to say that I said it happened and I went wait a minute stop saying that I'm

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Hurting these families by doing this. I think it happened and if I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry

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That's when they went. Oh my god. He admits. He lied. Well, she lost it lost it was all it was all said

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Yeah, and so we're gonna get the tapes from Kelly in these suits where I kept saying I think it happened

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Stop saying I didn't okay because she's a lawyer

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She came literally to get the statute of limitations so they think they could sue me

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It's just a whole canard to make my identity Sandy Hook and then to make it that I'm always talking about

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Sandy Hook when that's totally made up. This is a complete bullshit retelling of his behaviors

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So, I mean this is just rank disrespect to for his guest

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It was like trying to give him an out which would honestly be a perfectly acceptable out for him to take

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Granted it might be tough because he's being sued right now

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But for him to say like at any point for him to have said I did believe that I was wrong

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I was misled by a number of people who I believe to be credible sources at the time

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There's no shame in that unless you're Alex. Yeah, he can't be wrong about anything ever and so

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it just makes lies the build on top of each other and

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You just you're not they're not having a real conversation like Alex is just insulting him forcing Carl to bend to his

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Propaganda and then lying to his face. This is a

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Disrespectful interview and I don't have any care for Carl. No, I

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For somebody who has a lawyer on

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four days a week

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Continuing to talk about Sandy Hook would be my first

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At first bit of advice to Alex is like don't don't say anything about it. Stop. You're not just stop

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You're not helping your case by creating a completely fictional backstory for what you did. Yeah, no kidding

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You're just justifying it in your own mind to pretend that you fucking

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It seems also like the behavior that could only hurt Alex. Yeah, we're not legally but because this isn't true

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Well, he's saying isn't true. It's demonstrably not true

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And so the more he says it the more the audience has an opportunity to be like that's not true

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Yeah, why are you lying about your coverage of Sandy Hook?

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What that introduces the possibility? Maybe you're lying about everything. So I if I hurt anybody's feelings, I apologize

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That is not why you were getting sued hurt feelings are not why people sue. I mean, maybe it's part of it

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Well, I mean, yeah small part of it did but so anyway at this point they play a video of a woman

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on Oprah's network or show on Oprah's network and

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Carl's there Alex is there and Leanne McAdoo is back. Oh boy

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And get out. She's just visiting though. So she's on while she's visiting and

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They do a little bit of riffing about this this lady

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I got to tell you, Trump's ass will give that woman a run for the money

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Maybe that's what she's saying is is like she had Trump ass envy

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She's like man Trump's got an ass bigger than you know, Oprah Winfrey's and Trump's like she's like I gotta get one of those

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She started drinking like five gallons of cream gravy every day. That's it. Trump did make her get gained like 200 pounds

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Well, there we go. He goes, I need me one of them big old fat booties like he got

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Yeah, well, we really shouldn't. You like that Sargon? Now Alex has transitioned into the trying to impress Carl

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side of the show

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Jesus so Leanne McAdoo is back to visit

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So she sits in with Alex and Carl and the whole thing completely

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Deteriorates into Alex doing some pretty racist riffing about a video he plays of a black woman discussing obesity

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Yeah, I was gonna say that that voice was yeah

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We know what you're doing. The straw man version that they're attacking is that this woman in the video is blaming Trump for getting her fat

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Because they've set this up as her argument

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They then become free to goof on how stupid she is and descended to all sorts of student super awesome riffs about how everyone who?

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Complains about racism is just an unhinged crazy person sure because they've created the false argument. Yeah, and

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This was all the rage in the right wing media

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All the outlets have their own articles about this clip and they all have the same angle

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Gender Studies professor says black women are fat because of Trump

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In reality this is a clip of a woman named Britney Cooper, and she's discussing actual issues that Alex would rather

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Discuss fake versions of if you actually watch the clip or read anything Cooper's put out

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You'll see that the things she was pointing out that put black women at a disadvantage

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Are lower rates of insurance and worse health care for example those are issues that she is pointing to right

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She also mentions a theory that racism makes diets not work as well for black women as they do for white women and of course

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This is just the stupidest

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Sjw nonsense that Alex and Carl have ever heard, but in reality there are some indications that this might be true

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Maybe not racism exactly, but the experience of dealing with racism

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Cooper is specifically talking about research

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That's that has grown out of a paper published in 2001 by the journal of the American Medical Women's Association

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this paper was looking at the racial inequalities in women's health in the country one of the focal points being that quote

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Excessive levels of chronic morbidity and disability are widespread among African American women regardless of socio-economic position

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Because the trend exists on a larger spectrum

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It's harder for them to chalk that up solely to having to do with access to health care or poverty since it's across the socio-economic

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economic spectrum

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Thus the author proposed a model called weathering which quote suggests that African American women experience early health

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Deterioration as a consequence of the cumulative impact of repeated experience of social economic and political exclusion

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This includes the physical cost of engaging actively to address societal and structural barriers to achievement and well-being

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It would be really hard to definitively prove this theory

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But a number of peer-reviewed studies have been able they've been done that tend to suggest that they might be onto something

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This might be a model that explains things much better than other models that people have looked at whether it be a strict

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Poverty model strict class model a strict model that looks at just a genetic

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Predisposition for things sure. It seems like this works better at explaining right the phenomenon that we see

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Hey guys, it's easier to lose weight. If you don't have the crushing gravity of daily and dignity forced upon you

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Well, whether or not that's the case it for everyone

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but what Cooper is arguing and the way she's articulating it is that

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Something about this experience that we have

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it leads to

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Stress changes to the way our body works and so the things that would work normally

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So X diet, let's say doesn't work because of the metabolism changes that stress responses have caused, right?

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I don't know if this is a hundred percent been proven but

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Peer-reviewed studies that have been done have indicated that there might be something to this

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Yeah, so I'm inclined not to write this off as some kind of just stupid bullshit

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and rather that

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This might be an important conversation

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No, and I would imagine that what also contributes to it is in the same way that women don't have you know

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heart medications are far less likely to work for women is because they're

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Mainly tested on men like all these studies about example

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Yeah, all the studies about diet and all of that shit are almost certainly focused entirely upon white people

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so the idea that a

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It's simply something that people aren't paying attention to or studying is is also yeah

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That very well may be the case

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I'm not entirely sure based on the things that she specifically brought up, but that did very well could be a factor

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But like, you know, I mean that could even be applied to weathering sure, you know

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The point here is that this woman is talking about something real that affects communities that Alex is not a part of and doesn't care

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About at all instead of engaging with what she's actually saying and recognizing that she's not attacking him and not attacking Trump specifically even

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She he has to run to his safe bubble and create a straw man of her argument to attack

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And of course that safe bubble that he has is pretty racist

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So anyway, I mean it's just it's just an

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Unbelievable like the the the elements of it are like real stupid, you know

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Creating the straw man to attack where she's blaming Trump for being fat or something. Yeah is stupid

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And then the other part of it too is that it's just all over right-wing media

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Like there's an article about it on the blaze on Fox News

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It's just like this is a talking point. This is like Alex is just doing like he might as well just be

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Riffing on stupid right-wing news like that's the segment that they're doing. It's just pathetic. It's it's sad because I

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Need this to be clear the show opened with an hour of religious fervor, right?

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Then now he has fucking Sargon of Akkad in studio and he's trying to impress him with racism

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Like that's what it's on the same episode. Yeah, it's crazy

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So now listen to this

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This is what happens when I start having fun, it's a family I get racist

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Uh-huh

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Man, it's really nice of him to have Leanne McAdoo on in order to ignore and talk over her

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That's really kind of him right and she was kind of trying to make a better argument for the wrong conclusion

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It is like, you know, there is such a thing as stress eating and you know that

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She would be able to actually cover this a little better. Yeah, but Alex isn't interested in that

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He wants to impress Sargon. Yeah, that's what he wants to do

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It's like I have made you bend to my will we're now in this place where I'm the alpha

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I have a dominance in the situation now. I'm going to curry your favor by

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Making fun of SJW is like you love to do. I'm bringing you into my fold. You are not contradicting me. You're doing nothing

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I'm giving you these jokes. So you will feel more comfortable and then I will you won't be like hey

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Did he was he really mean to me? No, I I have dominated you and now I will make it all better

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Yeah, I'm magnanimous in your this is propaganda aftercare. Yeah is what?

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I just gaslit you and now let's have some jokes

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So Alex goes to commercial their family show and he comes back trying to play baby got back

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Because of course, can he not can we just not can we just make that against the rules for him?

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It's stupid, but it actually works out being really funny based on what happens in your face you get

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Oh

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Oh stupid American

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Since I'm all Chinese coming

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Alex has continued making these very racist voiced

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Chinese dragon video

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Jesus so Alex tried to come in with baby got back because they just did that whole she's got a big fat ass riff

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Before they went to commercial he's trying to carry that over something clearly isn't going right. Oh, yeah

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Yeah, there's they might as well put on like the let's all go to the lobby fucking song right there

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30 seconds of dead air and like hit the panic button go to the racist Chinese video

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I know that's if that's your your plan B. We're in trouble

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Yeah, plan A is have him say racist shit about black people plan B

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Let's play a clip of him being racist towards Chinese people. Yeah, great work guys stuff

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This is a family show. So they get back and Alex talks about how like yeah, we're trying to broadcast here

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Hey, I'm not mad. I think he sounds furious. I'm not mad. This is no maybe no big deal. All right, ladies and gentlemen

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We are here trying to broadcast as best we can today

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And we got Sargon of Akkad and Leanne McAdoo here with us in studio

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Guys, what would you call this period of time that we're at in the world right now?

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This is a deep breath. Just fucking so mad. That inhale through the nose is

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Yeah, he is dark. He is furious. Jesus. And he says we're trying to broadcast. Yeah. Hey guys trying to broadcast in here. I

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Really think it's a strong indication that what I was saying might be the case. Yeah, nobody's yeah is

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Maybe a lot of a lot of replacement. Yeah. Yeah

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scabs so then Alex decides it's time to go to some calls and

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So he takes a call and it also does not go well

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Right now, let's go to info warrior princess in California. Thanks for holding info warrior princess. You're on the air. I

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Know princess it is amazing, isn't it? Yes. Yes. It is good. All right. Well, she probably didn't like holding too long

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Okay, we'll say oh my god. Hi

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Hi, sorry. Sorry. I had you on mute

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This is the narc age

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It's the age of the narcissist and gaslighting

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The debate was a rerun of the nagging of the fake enemy news the baboons

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throwing their boomerang

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The

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Dan the clown the quite order the classic classic archetype of baboons with boomerang, man

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You know what? That's all wrong, but it is all racist

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Every part of that. I don't she's she's creating new racist things to say it might be

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I don't know enough to say what info warrior princess where she's coming from. It doesn't sound good

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Mm-hmm. Um, so she ends up complaining about how Elizabeth Warren has no fashion sense

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And yes, that's worth complaining about Alex's response is pretty normal

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Well, at least we didn't have to see Hillary up there with her mouth

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But we do see Warren with that black shirt and pants on for the past 45 years

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Five years that poor girl ain't got no style. Hey guys get this lady's get in for warrior princesses

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Numbers, I'm sorry. Yeah, we've got a few of them

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Yeah, let's get her on a host this show where it's just callers that I keep talking about man

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I was gonna say once it once I heard them laugh. I was like, oh she's killing she's gonna get a show

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She's getting a job if old man house phone was here. They would run a two-man game. That is unstoppable. She's getting a job

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That's not real. Yeah good. It's a good plan though

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I mean if Alex actually got around to doing it

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Which I don't think would be wise for him to do giving his listeners actual like authorship on the show

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I think that he knows enough

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I mean he we talked about Owen Benjamin earlier

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Like he knows it like some people might seem like they're right on and then they might say something about hold on

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Yeah, it's all the juice fault. No, no, no hit the pause button. It's a dangerous thing to give his callers too much freedom

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Yeah, and I think he knows that but it would be a really smart thing for him to do

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If that weren't the case because they'll work for free

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they'll get free content and I

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Think it would be I think that's why he keeps thinking I got to do that

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anyway

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Earlier Alex was doing the big butt riff to try and impress Carl sure is great and he gets into complaining about

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You know men demanding they be called ma'am

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You know trying to take some potshots

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Trans community again just to impress Carl. Listen to how this clip ends

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a bunch of men going hell these women people open doors for them. Well, guess what? I'll break your jaw and as women it's ma'am. It's ma'am. It's ma'am. Sure I was in prison two years ago and I just pressed 500 pounds. I'll kill you. You don't call me a woman. You piece of crap.

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Yeah, no, I have been like bucked up and being out in Austin. I have

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a woman, a woman, a woman, a woman. Call me a woman. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.

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Give me the children. Let them sit on my lap.

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Like that? You like that?

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That's I mean, he's said that multiple times now. You like that? Here's my riff. You like that? You think it's good?

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It almost reminds me of like... Is that good stuff? Hey, everybody? Almost reminds me of like people at open mics that run a bit and like

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something there? Anything there? Is that stuff? Huh? Huh? Huh? You want to punch this up? I know you're the king of yelling about SJWs. Man.

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Eh? Please clap. Carl? Carl validate me. I don't know why but so much I think it's just her being there.

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The fact that he has not listened to her one time is so offensive. It is so awful. He might

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have listened to her a little more in clips that I'm not playing but it's... Maybe but he is steamrolling

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the shit out of it. I will say that these clips accurately portray the feeling of listening to

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this for sure. God damn it. That is so fucking awful. Just, just go, Leanne. Just go. You've got

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these two people here and he's just absurdly disrespecting both of them. Yeah. It's crazy. That

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is bananas. Yeah. It's like you are... Leanne, this series of clips is living proof why everything that

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you have said is wrong. Yeah. They hate women. They don't want them to speak. Yeah. So shit. Alex

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wants Carl's validation and Carl has an idea for what Alex, maybe what he should do. You actually

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should identify as a woman. See what they do. I am a woman. Then you might be allowed to say

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whatever you want, Alex. There's a clip playing underneath that that they didn't set up in any

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way. There's just weird audio playing under it. I have no idea what it is. I don't care. Man. So

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Carl should know better than anyone that this sort of thing has already been done. Like his fellow

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internet propagandist Lauren Southern already did this gender prank, if you want to call it that.

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Sure. So he already knows full well what the result is. In 2016, Lauren did a stunt where she

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legally changed her gender to male. I guess as an attempt to demonstrate how easy it is to get that

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change on your ID card in Canada. And look how hypocritical the libs are going to be. They're

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going to be like, you can't do that. Obviously, this was just an attempt to troll and rile up

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the trans community who she'd made a large part of her career victimizing. That's all this was

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meant to do. In most of the coverage of this I can find, it doesn't seem like people took the bait.

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A lot of responses that I found were more focused on how sad this kind of stunt was and how it

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demonstrates a fundamental disinterest in learning anything about the communities

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that she was attacking. Ultimately, most people saw this for what it was, a publicity stunt

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intended to make money off angering people who care about social justice. And a dumb one. Yeah.

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Lauren worked for Rebel Media at the time and already had a career going that was full of sad,

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offensive stunts, so anyone who knew what she was about knew what she was doing.

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I saw some responses that were along the lines of saying things like, this is a great demonstration

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of the progress being made in Canada, where someone's identity isn't questioned and belittled

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by doctors they consult. Which I think is probably the best way to take a, you know,

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a propaganda stunt and take the power away from them. I changed my gender to male on the ID!

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Cool, this is a great country. Yeah. Uh, but, aw. All in all, it was a flop for Lauren, and thus

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she moved on to trying to raise money for her to go along with the white supremacist adjacent group

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generation identity to intercept boats of refugees in the Mediterranean Sea. Then she moved on to

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complaining about how a ton of her fans treat her like shit because she's a white woman and not

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subservient to a husband and cranking out white kids. And then she moved on to quitting political

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stuff in June 2019. Leanne. If Alex wanted to do this sort of thing, this kind of stunt,

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I guess he's welcome to, but I don't think he'd get the response that Carl's pretending he would.

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I suspect people would just see it as a pathetic, desperate man trying to get attention the only

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way he knows how. By acting out and trying to make people angry. Which, again, is what children do.

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Yeah, I wonder what Carl thinks the reaction would be. Oh, it'd be huge! You'd make so many

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people mad. Really? Is that what he thinks would happen? These guys just do not understand. They

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just absolutely have no fucking clue. That would trigger the libs. No, it wouldn't. It's offensive.

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Maybe a section of people would, and I think they would be well within their right to be mad. Oh,

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yeah, no, he's clearly fucking trying to mock trans identity. Obviously, that's the case.

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But the response to that for most people would just be like, if you're sincere, cool.

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And if you're not, you're a dick. So, fuck you. I think, especially Alex,

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I think most people would respond to it with, wow, this is what it's come to. It's bad. Oh,

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boy. Really need to sell that bone broth. Oh, boy. How the mighty have fallen.

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So I think that this episode sucks. I think this October 16th episode is one of the weirder

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disasters I've seen in Alex's present day stuff. The bizarre religious fanaticism at the beginning

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of it. That is nothing. It's meaningless. Also racist.

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Probably. The genetically predisposed.

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Oh, yes. Implicitly racist. Then pivoting into vain nonsense about TV shows making fun of him.

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Right. Then turning into a pageant

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of trying to sway Sargon of Akkad into liking him.

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Racistically. Sure. And transphobically. And

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establishing the power dynamic by lying about the real world, lest it enter the bubble of

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Infowars coverage. I just think it's a terrible show. And you add into the tech problems, like

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there's the awful, awful dead air. That is so bad. Right. Unfortunately,

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Alex has a different position. He thinks the show has gone great.

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They have nothing. They have nothing. Alex is trying to ask this overarching question after

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pretty much publicly apologizing for screaming at the crew off air.

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Yeah. Between commercial breaks.

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If he's bringing it up on air. You have one fucking job to do.

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If he's bringing it up on air, then that means that he did something real fucked up off air.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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I would assume. I think he threw a sledgehammer.

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Maybe. He has hatchets around. Yeah.

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And, you know, then he's trying to ask the overarching big question of like,

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how do we deal with the death throes of globalists? And all Karl can do is make a joke.

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Like a little dismissive joke referencing back to the big ass pageant that they did earlier.

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Yeah, not even a joke. A callback. A callback. Yeah.

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This is nothing. This show is terrible. Well, I mean, Leanne probably has something

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to say, but at this point I doubt there's any purpose in opening her mouth at all.

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Nope. Jesus.

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So this show sucks. The present day is terrible. But again, like I said,

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I think that there is value and a need to, at least in some fashion, keep track of the fact

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that Alex seems to be in the early stages of pivoting into being a outright cult leader.

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Yeah. And if that's the case,

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uh, people should take that seriously. And even if it's not the case, people should take the other

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things that he's clearly manifesting seriously. If sincere and real, it's only a matter of time

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before something really bad happens. If not sincere, still, if you care about him,

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you should not be allowing him to act this way. Yeah. I, what wouldn't surprise me at all,

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based on the trends that we're seeing, is as like the mainstream, uh, quote, alt-right media has,

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has trans, has transformed more into Alex's show. I wouldn't be surprised if next year,

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all of their shows are apocalyptically religious and openly racist and transphobic.

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I think a number of them already are. Yeah, you're probably right.

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I don't, I don't know what to expect. I don't, I don't think that there's a lot of,

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um, ways for me to know what the, uh, the, the larger right wing media is going to do.

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Because it seems trending more and more towards Alex.

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Maybe if, if history is prelude, then maybe that is what we would expect. But also I think that

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there's a possibility that if things get bad enough, they could course correct a little bit.

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There may come a reckoning. There might be, um, especially people who have sponsors.

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They come to Jesus. Yeah. I think that it's entirely possible.

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That doesn't mean they'll become good up and up outlets, but there is a, there is a possibility

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that they'll start hiding a little bit of this stuff, scale it back to an extent. But then there

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are obviously some, uh, who are not beholden sponsors, uh, who may, uh, do exactly what you're

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saying. I don't know. None of it, none of it seems good, but we'll see what happens. We will see.

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Anyway, we have a website. We do have a website. It is knowledgefight.com. You bet.

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We also are on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's unlike Sargon of a cow. Oh,

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Carl gone of a coward. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bet

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Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. And if you would like to download the show,

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listen to it, share it, go to iTunes, leave a review or go listen to it. Wherever

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podcastual applications are sold. Absolutely. Indeed. We'll be back on Monday, but until then

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I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Sargon of a cod. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks

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for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.