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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight, knowledge fight, I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are
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the bad guys, knowledge fight, Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight, rattle her, rattle her, rattle
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her, rattle her, need, need money, rattle her, rattle her, rattle her, Andy and Kansas,
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Andy and, Andy, stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy, it's time to pray,
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work, knowledge fight,
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knowledgefight.com, I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple of dudes
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that like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones, indeed
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we are Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan, have you ever quit a race or dropped out or lost? Have
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I ever entered a race? Have you ever run a race? I don't think so.
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Like physically or like metaphorically a la a campaign of some sort?
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I've often thought about like a half marathon or something like that, I've often thought
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about doing something like that, especially in those times in my life when I was going
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to the gym more and in shape I was thinking about like, why don't I do that? I never got
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around to it and if I ever get healthy again I may, but no, the only races I can come up
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with, well one is physical, and that was back when we'd do the mile run back in like 5th
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grade and I realized that it didn't matter at all so I would just walk it.
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Right, right, right.
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You don't want the Presidential Fitness Award?
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Ooh, gym teacher did not like that, me getting lapped on the track by people, I was like
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I don't give a shit, it's not going to change anything, it's not going to impress you.
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This is my climate change strike!
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Yeah, impress this cranky Vietnam vet gym teacher? Nah, it's not going to happen even
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if I run really fast. That was a bad race. And then in like junior high, I think it was
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junior high, we had like class presidential races and stuff like that, I thought that
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was all silly.
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Did you try?
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Well I decided I was going to run for school pope, because I was that brand of dumbass.
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Deeply annoying.
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Yes, 100%.
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That is such a, like, you're in junior high and you hear that and you're like, ha ha,
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uhhh.
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Yup, yup.
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That's very funny, oh no, I'm already bored with it.
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Yup, I was the guy who was like, nah, let's let it ride, let's see what happens. Nothing
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happened. But yeah, I've not had good luck with races of any kind, be it foot race or
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political race.
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Yeah, I dropped out of the white race.
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You've made that very clear. So this podcast, I don't know too much about being fleet-footed
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or politically savvy, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I don't know anything about either.
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That is correct.
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Yes.
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So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting podcast episode to do and stuff to go over,
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but before we get down to business, we're going to take a little moment here to say
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thank you to the people who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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Love it.
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Love it. First of all, Andrew, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Andrew.
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Next, Tim, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Tim.
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Next, Jennifer, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Next, Jennifer.
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Thank you, Jennifer.
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Next, David, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, David.
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Next, Generic Otter. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I refuse to accept that every otter is unique and special in their own way.
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Fair enough.
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Otters are way better than people.
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Uh huh.
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They can float.
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Yeah.
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Unlike people.
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And they hold hands when they float.
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Come on.
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People can do neither.
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Yeah.
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Then finally I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who signed up on an elevated
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level.
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We appreciate it very much.
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So first, Jane, thank you so much.
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And then Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq war.
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Thank you so much.
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You are both wonderful technocrats.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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Crikey.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right.
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.
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All right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Jane.
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And Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq war.
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Yes.
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Thank you so much.
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If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I like what these guys do, I'd like to
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That would be lovely.
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So, elephant in the room, Jordan, this episode's coming out a little bit late.
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Yes.
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And I apologize for that to the good people of the world and to you also, because this
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is a pain.
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Oh, well, we both...
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For you, fixing up schedule and what have you.
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We both had some.
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I was sick all day yesterday and most of this morning.
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And I explained this a little bit on Facebook, but I tweeted that I had a slight or a light
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bungling of the schedule.
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And what was going on is that Alex Jones has been in California for the better part of
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this week.
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Yeah.
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So, I didn't want to do three 2013 episodes in a week and Wacky Wednesday possibilities
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were all dead ends that I was going in.
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Right.
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And I was like, Alex is in California, that almost certainly means that he's going on
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Rogan.
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Right.
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Or there's a decent chance.
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And that means that I got to be ready to do that episode at the drop of a hat.
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Yeah, you were a fireman in that situation.
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You ever see those guys in like, I don't know, a coming of age movie?
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You know, they always panned to the football field and the guys are running in place ready
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to do a push up.
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That's you?
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That's how I was.
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Okay.
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You were doing a...
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I was ready to go in case Rogan goes live with Alex and then I got to drop and do 10.
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Any moment.
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Yeah.
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And then it didn't happen.
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No.
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So, by the time Alex got back from California, it was already cutting it real tight for us
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to be able to get an episode out.
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So thankfully we were able to do this and get this out, which I think is actually very
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interesting and maybe the next best thing to Alex being on Rogan.
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Okay.
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And that is today we're going over the September 19th, 2019 episode, which is Thursday of this
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week.
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And here's a little out of context drop where Alex talks about how, you know, not too long
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ago he said he was gonna politically murder Joe Rogan and called him a sneaky snake and
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all that good stuff.
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I want to get into some Joe Rogan stuff here, but I love Joe to death, even though Jesus
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told me to destroy him.
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I'm joking.
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I was in like two bottles of tequila at that point, folks.
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Metaphysically.
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Metaphysically two bottles of tequila, yeah.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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How can you...
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I think that's a literally two bottles of tequila.
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You can be metaphysically one bottle of tequila in, but you can only be physically two bottles
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of tequila in.
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That takes action.
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That's dedication.
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You might have heard laughter in the background.
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That's our old friend Eddie Bravo.
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That's our old friend Eddie Bravo.
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I was tipped off to that.
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Eddie Bravo shows up along with his co-host from his podcast, the Tin Foil Hat podcast,
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guy by the name of Sam Tripoli.
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I'm not sure you're aware of that cat.
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I've heard his name.
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Comedian, guy.
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We're gonna see how this plays out.
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They're on for most of the show.
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So we'll get to that when we get to it, but we got to start the show how Alex starts it.
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He has a big special report that he wants to premiere and he keeps saying, this thing
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needs to go viral.
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So I'm here...
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Well, everything he does needs to go viral for him to keep going.
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That's true.
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And I'm here to do my part.
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I do not want this to go viral, but let's enjoy a little bit of it, a little special
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report.
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This video is exclusively on infowars.com and newswars.com and summit.news.
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Video Communist Party of China issues direct message to the American people.
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Paul Watson retweeted it, Rob do retweet it.
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We need to get this out.
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Throwing down the gauntlet, the Central Committee tells Americans to submit to their fate.
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So they're being very honest about this.
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And so here is the dictator of communist China uncloaked and in your face, this needs to
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go viral.
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Here it is.
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Attention, American pigs.
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China is in control of your country now.
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We own Hollywood, we own your debt, and we own Harvard and the Democratic Party.
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We have all your military courts.
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This is insanity.
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Is this breakfast at Tiffany's?
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What the fuck just happened?
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Now I have a couple of thoughts about this.
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Oh, do you?
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Yeah.
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Just a couple?
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The first is even as a racist impression, this is bad.
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This is not, this isn't quality stuff.
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Second, I have a strong suspicion Alex is trying to chase some of that Shane Gillis
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heat.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, this dude just got fired from SNL by being overtly racist against Asians.
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Right, right, right.
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I'm going to jump in that pool.
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If I can do that, maybe I can piggyback on his racism and, and just as people are defending
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him and people will be like, hey, why can't you do a racist man?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah, just trying to ride that wave that's been created by Gillis.
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What a transparent asshole.
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But this is, I mean, this is crazy.
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This is too much.
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And you know what?
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It goes even further.
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Of course it does.
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Alex Jones presents the Tricom Takeover.
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So take your Fentanyl and your tainted vaccines and your melamine and your baby formula we
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make for you and die and don't fight back or the media will call your names and you
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don't want that.
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You certainly don't want that.
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I think Alex, that's exactly what he wants.
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He wants the media to call him racist so he can play around in the mud.
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That's all this is.
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God damn.
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This is a ridiculously desperate ploy for attention.
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This is, this is, this is a seventies episode of Scooby Doo.
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This is, this is not good.
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It's ridiculous.
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This is not good.
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I turned on the episode and this is how it was starting and I was like, oh my God, this
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is, this is swinging for the fences.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And what, what, what is more punk in 2019 fucking Christ.
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So I was listening to this on audio and I was very curious about like, well, I mean
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he said this is a video that you made.
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Tell me he's not wearing a fucking hat.
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I thought for sure it'd be Alex in disguise or something like that and I'm thrilled to
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report to you that that is not the case.
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Alex didn't go for some kind of like a offensive Trudeau style race makeup.
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Well, did he wear the rice, the rice, the, the hat?
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No, there is no, there's no costuming.
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Okay.
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There's nothing.
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Good.
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However, it is animated.
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Of course.
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And it's just a big talking dragon.
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Why not?
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Why not?
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Why not?
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Did it have wings?
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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Then it's even more ignorant and racist.
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I can't confirm or deny whether it had wings, but I can say that like, this is all just
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a really sad attempt at getting people.
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It's just a racism trolling or something.
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That's how it feels.
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You're going over the top and being like specifically, I can't, I can't see it in any other lens
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other than like, Hey, it's cool now.
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I'm going to be as racist as I want to.
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Or I know that there's going to be some blowback of attention that I get from this that I can
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maybe translate into some sales.
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Yeah.
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And he's going to try and call it edgy humor because it clearly look at me clearly I'm
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going over the top and this is parody and you're like, you don't understand what parody
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is.
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He does immediately explain that it's satire.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I'm going to do this right now.
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That was obviously satire.
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We were not being serious that that is Xi's message to us, but in action, that is what
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China is doing.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Good.
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Thank you.
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I'm not sure, but it's good as a sign.
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Whenever you perform a piece of satire that you have to immediately and almost reflexively
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be like, that was sad guys.
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I know that you probably think that was actually right.
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It was not satire guys.
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I remember that being the last chapter of a modest proposal.
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Jonathan Swift went through a long diatribe of why that is funny and how people should
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react to it.
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Yeah.
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And he said that he did actually though, want to eat Irish babies.
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It's the mark of great commentary, great satire when you have to like knee jerk, make sure
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people know, Hey, we're fucking around here because otherwise it's going to look really
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fucked up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I think this is a really lame thing and I think it's really interesting.
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This is how it kind of kicked off because I feel like everything is just desperate ploys
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for attention.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's what Joe Bravo and a Sam Tripoli on, I think is like, get some of their,
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let's try and grab some Joe Rogan folk and that kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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And he didn't go on Rogan while he was in California, but he did say that he went on
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a podcast that's bigger than Rogan.
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And I can't imagine what my favorite murder, I have no idea what he's presenting as being
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bigger than Rogan that he would go on a, I don't know, comedy bang, bang or they are
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they are not, they're playing, they're playing, that would be amazing.
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See him on a Marin, you know, I actually, I bet he probably he's, he's going to go on
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Marin in five years, but I, well, it's, it's, it's somehow more offensive how pathetic it
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is, you know, like it's not, it's, you know, it's, it's racist and it's terrible and it's
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awful.
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Yeah.
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But because it's so desperately fake, like it's not, he's not, it's, it's just such bullshit
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that he's, it's pathetic.
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Yeah.
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It makes you feel really sad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Less angry.
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Although I am like, you know, I don't like to see this kind of thing, like this kind
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of clunky racism, this lack of craft and even some kind of satire that's being presented.
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I think that's awful, but yeah, it is.
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The overwhelming feeling that I have is that like, this is a bummer, this pathetic douche.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Um, that's, that's like how I would feel with, uh, in the, in a perfect world, like that's
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the last living racist feeling, you know, where you're like, really dude, get the fuck
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out of here.
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Some weird Twilight Zone episode where the, the, the racist has, uh, is alone on a planet
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and there's no one else to hate.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That probably is an episode of one of those dystopian shows.
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There was time to be racist now.
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There was time.
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Um, so, uh, Alex gets into talking about, uh, immigrants and, uh, what do you know?
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He's equally off base and bad.
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There's 4,000 plus Americans get shot and killed a year by illegal aliens.
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A large portion of that is illegal aliens, but oh, that's not a problem.
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Hell, when the illegal alien shot the poor woman in San Francisco in the back, the jury
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found him not guilty, but he'd been found guilty of a gun crime, so he was sent to prison
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for that and the appellate court said, no, let him go, even though he'd been deported
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five times and committed a bunch of other crimes.
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They can't even put a guy in jail for shooting a woman in cold blood in the back when he's
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an illegal alien.
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That's a virtue signal.
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But what I'm getting at here is that they're coming for the guns.
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They're coming for the guns.
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That is exactly what he was getting at.
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So first of all, there's literally no way for Alex to have the information that he's
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citing.
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The US doesn't track crime statistics on that axis, that of immigration status.
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It's also literally against the law for them to do any of those studies.
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So the only thing he could be basing this on is like super unreliable sources.
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He's most likely getting this information from a speech that Trump gave earlier this
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year where he claimed that in the past two years, ICE had arrested undocumented persons
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whose criminal records included 4,000 violent killings, quote, violent killings.
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Yeah, he's trustworthy.
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Obviously, the problem with this is that Alex is claiming this as a statistic of crimes
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per year by a certain population when in reality, even if Trump's words were correct, he's just
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saying that people taken in by ICE in a span of two years had committed that many crimes
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total.
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It could be over a span of 30 years.
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You have no fucking idea.
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Another similar claim Trump made last year was that, quote, at least 63,000 Americans
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had been killed by immigrants since 9-11.
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But when PolitiFact looked into that claim, they found that he'd most likely gotten this
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from a blog written by noted cool guy about races, Steve King, who in turn seems to have
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just made that number up.
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Yeah, he's Steve King.
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Yeah.
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That's, yeah, that's on brand.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The larger problem is that consistent studies have shown that immigrant populations, regardless
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of documentation status, are less likely to commit crimes than native born populations.
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Alex knows that.
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So he has to pull out the only case he can even remember, that of Katie Steinle, although
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he can't remember her name.
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Which we covered in the past.
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He can't even remember her name.
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Just that lady in San Francisco.
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Fucking hate him.
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Yeah, like you said, we went over this in the past and it's not worth diving into that
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deeply again.
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But to remind everyone, that was a case where an undocumented immigrant accidentally fired
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a gun and the bullet ricocheted off the ground, ultimately hitting Steinle.
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He didn't murder her in cold blood.
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And though what happened is absolutely a tragedy, to paint it as a murder is literally only
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useful to escalate demonization of immigrants.
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That's literally the only reason to go with this narrative.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's Nazi propaganda is what it is.
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More or less.
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Yep.
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The man who accidentally fired that gun was a man named Jose Inez Garcia Zarate.
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And he was acquitted in his trial because it was clear it was an accident.
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He was, however, charged with being a felon in possession of a gun.
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This is a charge that was appealed and the decision came down on that recently that that
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was overturned.
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The reason that conviction of a gun charge was overturned was because his attorney successfully
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argued that he didn't know that the thing he was picking up was a gun.
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He found a gun wrapped in a rag, picked it up and it fired and he immediately dropped
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it.
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He wasn't knowingly in possession of the gun and the appeals court found that the prior
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trials judge didn't give the jury instruction on the legal standards for dealing with what's
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known as momentary possession.
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Yeah.
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So this is the reality that Alex is yelling about.
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But in order to make the argument he wants to make, which is bad, he has to turn to an
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appeal to a motion where an immigrant killed this precious white lady in cold blood when
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that's not at all the reality.
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What Alex is doing is lying about this case and also, quite frankly, that's virtue signaling.
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Yeah.
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But it's virtue signaling to racism.
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Did I forget that?
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Xenophobia.
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I always thought that the gun was his, but it wasn't even that?
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That was more new information that they established in the second trial.
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I think it was part of the first trial, but it wasn't something I ran into until reading
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up on the appeal.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God.
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That's a fucking tragedy for everyone involved.
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How could it?
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Oh, my God.
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That fucking.
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Oh, that sucks.
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Right.
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That sucks so hard.
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And any previous felonies he may have had or how many times he entered the country illegally.
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That doesn't mean that he committed that as a murder.
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No, it doesn't have any bearing on the event that actually happened.
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Oh, God.
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That's very sad.
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That would fuck.
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That's fucked everybody involved up for no good reason other than that there are an infinite
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number of guns in America.
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It's very, very tragic.
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So Alex did go to L.A. or California, probably L.A. I don't know.
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He just says California.
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But like I said, I thought he was going on Rogan and I was wrong about that.
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But my reason that I thought he was going on Rogan is like Alex wouldn't go to L.A.
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unless there's a big press opportunity for him.
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Yeah, of course.
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Or someone else's audience he can sort of vulture in on.
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And I was right about that.
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Like I said, he has some unknown podcast that he went on that's bigger than Rogan.
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We'll find out what that is whenever that happens.
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Pod Save America.
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They're really trying to be centrist as fuck these days.
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They're really trying to reach across the aisle.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And we need to work together with bigots and racists who are trying to kill us all.
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But it wouldn't be an Alex Jones trip if it didn't have a story about something that happened
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to him on the plane.
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So these mobs are out of control.
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I had a leftist on the airplane, grabbed me in my seat and go, I love you so much.
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I love you.
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And my security guy starts pushing him away.
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We get off the plane, the guy comes over.
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He smelled real bad, looked mentally ill like Beto.
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He goes, I know you do it all for money, but I wanted to hurt you, but instead I hugged
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you.
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And I said, okay.
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And he goes, get away from me.
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These are mental patients.
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What do you want to bet that was one of Alex's fans?
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Like if that happened, that sounds like an encounter that could have been someone who
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actually did like him.
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And then when Alex snubbed him, he's like, I know you do it for the money.
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That could easily be a jolted fan.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There's no reason to think this is a leftist.
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Also this didn't happen.
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Oh, he's flying with the security detail?
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Yeah, from Blackwater.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Jesus Christ.
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I guess.
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Oh man.
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He says he doesn't go anywhere without his security now, which kind of makes it...
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Why?
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Because he's a fucking super paranoid dude.
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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He's cultivated a fan base of unhinged lunatics who are violent and he has sent at people.
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Right.
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But not like, I mean, I suppose it's smart to preemptively assume that they're going
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to turn on him.
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Well, I mean...
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It would just be like, well, these people are crazy and I am very visible, so they're
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probably going to come after me sooner or later.
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I think if you create an environment and a group that is sort of, I would say, defined
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by just accepting things with lack of evidence, being incredibly paranoid, just full of suspicion
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about literally everything, you will eventually run afoul of that crowd.
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I think that was the only lesson, really, that the French Revolution taught us.
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Well, I mean...
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The terror is coming.
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But it's why Alex needs to do things like go to L.A. to be on podcasts, because now
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that he doesn't have his social media, doesn't have the YouTube algorithms to exploit, he
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has no intake.
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It's like what we've talked about all the time.
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This is why his business model is falling apart.
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Eventually, the people that get indoctrinated into what he does become suspicious of him
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and go away to harder things.
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That flow hasn't changed, but the inflow has.
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That's why it's falling apart.
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That's why deplatforming for someone like Alex is like...
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Valuable.
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Well, yeah.
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Effective.
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And someone like Milo has certainly seen a much sharper fall, but that's because he had
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less groundwork, less of a foundation to build upon.
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Alex has at least a business here that takes a while for all the gears to completely stop
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working.
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But we're seeing that.
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Milo didn't actually create anything, and he definitely didn't have a 20-some-odd year
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background in it.
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And that's what you're seeing.
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And yeah, obviously, Alex is aware of that.
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If he's ever read an email from any of his listeners or actually experienced any time
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he's run into listeners in the public, he knows.
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The wave comes back.
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There's undertow.
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So Alex, at this point, brings in Eddie and Sam.
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Cool.
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They're on for the better part of two hours of the show.
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And they're coming back on Friday's episode.
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What are they, vacationing in Austin?
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They did a show, I think it's either Friday or Thursday night, I can't remember.
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But they're there to do a show, because they do a podcast together, and then I guess they
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do a live stand-up something or...
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Who gives a shit?
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Who gives a shit?
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I think this is very interesting.
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In the past, we've experienced Eddie Bravo and Alex as on Joe Rogan's show.
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And we've seen Alex need Eddie to be there to be like sort of a pressure release valve.
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If something's going too bad for Alex, he can just yell at Eddie about flat earth, and
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then everything is sort of...
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It's almost like a reset.
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Eddie Bravo is very easy to turn on and off again.
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So I was interested to see how this would work on Alex's show, because I've heard Alex
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and Eddie on Info Wars, just one-on-one.
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But adding this third sort of unknown variable of Sam Tripoli, it's like, how's this gonna
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go?
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We'll find out.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we've got Eddie Bravo and Sam Tripoli in studio with us for the
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next two hours, and Paul Joseph Watson takes over.
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I guess that was an unnecessary clip.
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I could have just told you that the two of them were on, which I did, and then I played
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that clip.
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Anyway...
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You do always have to back up everything you say, though.
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That's true.
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That is true.
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You do need to provide evidence for everything.
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So in this next clip, they talk about how racism is kind of fun sometimes.
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It's like we got away from what racism is, is like, you're horrible people.
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I mean, Tropic Thunder's fun when he's doing that, and I make fun of white people, red
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necks and stuff, and I did that whole Chinese dragon going, American scum!
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It's fun!
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It's fun!
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Don't double down.
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Don't double down.
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It's fun!
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Jesus Christ.
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It's...
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Why don't people get that I am allowed to oppress people with no repercussions?
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It's fun.
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It's fun!
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So he talks a bit about Trudeau and his blackface situation, and most of it is just comparing
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it to Tropic Thunder, and like, it's fun in Tropic Thunder.
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It's not fun for you, Trudeau.
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Okay, but that's what satire is.
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Now we have an actual satire.
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So these guys, their conversation is a lot of yelling.
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Yeah.
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It is not coherent in most senses.
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Sam Tripoli really wants to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and also what Alex thinks about Julian
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Assange.
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And Alex keeps saying, we're going to get to it next segment.
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Sure.
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And he puts the can all the way down the road to the end of the show where he says that
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Julian Assange should be freed and that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in trying to blackmail
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scientists.
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And he knows this from high-level intelligence sources.
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He's talking about the MIT situation.
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Gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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So it's more important that they get into the bigger issues while they yell.
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And one of them is that the globalists, they want transhumanism, right?
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And Sam Tripoli knows why.
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Well you know what it is, man?
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They want transhumanism because they know when they die and they go to the archons,
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they're going to have to go some lesser form and come back as like a one-eyed woodchuck
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because they're such evil people and they'll never go to a higher level to hang out with
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the gods.
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You know what I'm saying?
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That's it.
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They're scumbags.
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They're lizards.
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They have no consciousness.
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They're feeding on us and they don't want horrible form.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, they admit that.
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Yeah.
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They admit that.
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So they all believe in reincarnation.
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Wow.
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That's good.
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Is that part of Alex's cosmology in his weird version of Christianity?
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It is today.
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There is, you know, we are going to heaven, but you gotta break the 10,000 year wheel
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first.
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And you're like, Jesus Christ, man.
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And the archons will be the deciders of if you come back as a woodchuck.
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Who's even thrown around archon anymore?
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Weirdos.
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That's fucking crazy.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of weird.
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Um, but here we run into like an essential problem that I have that I really don't like
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about episodes like this of Alex's show.
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And that is that Sam Tripoli is a comic.
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So like it's really difficult to disambiguate like what is trying to be funny and what is
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actually like a position because when he's yelling about this, like you can obviously
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see like they don't want to come back as a one eyed woodchuck.
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That was Sam Tripoli.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That's a line.
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And I'm trying to get a little bit of a laugh, you know, like you can see the craft of being
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funny in there.
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But at the same time, it's in the middle of expressing an idea that I think he probably
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believes that these people want to create robots they can put their brain in so they
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never have to die and face the archons.
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So it's like, where is the line between what you actually believe and what's a joke?
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And it's always hard to figure out.
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So I try to err on the side of like, eh, he's probably fucking around.
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If there are if there's someone who fucks around for a living, right, right.
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That becomes very difficult when you're on a show with Alex fucking Jones.
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Yeah, that is that is the most humorless person in the world.
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I don't know how you would even try and get humor into the show.
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I mean, if you're a professional comedian, obviously, the easiest way is to make poop
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jokes.
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Sure.
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If you make poop jokes, you have destroyed and you you know, when you read the room,
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you say poop jokes are gonna work here.
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Oh, yeah.
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But but if you're an actual actual comic, trying to be actually funny, good fucking
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luck.
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God, everything sails over his head, right?
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Yeah, for the most part.
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Yeah.
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And then he just says like, oh, yeah, that's actually, you know, it's in a white paper.
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You make a joke, but it's actually true.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Yeah, now I get it.
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So Sam Tripoli wants to fight John Bolton.
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That's big news.
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Breaking here on knowledge fight.
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Sam Tripoli looking to fight an old man.
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Yeah, I'm fine with that.
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OK.
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I don't think I don't think I've ever been more fine with somebody just beating up an
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old man.
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After that, after that revelation comes out, Alex reveals some information of his own about
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John Bolton.
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I want to fight John Bolton for charity.
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I say right here, John Bolton, me, you in the Octagon fight.
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All money goes to charity.
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That that's a perv stash.
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Yeah, that is that is a fact.
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He's into some pervs.
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Yeah.
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Definitely some 1985 hardcore gay porn.
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He's a leather daddy.
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I'd like to remind you that this is a family show.
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Jesus.
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I'd also like to remind you that Alex thinks he's a libertarian.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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He's into some pervs stuff.
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Yeah.
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I don't judge.
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I'm just saying he's going to hell and the archons aren't going to let him come back
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as anything rather than a one eyed would check.
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That's into fucking auto erotica, right.
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Family show.
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Yeah.
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I'd also like to remind you that this is still a family show as this next clip begins.
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Yeah.
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Jared Kushner likes it weird too.
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He looks like he likes to have sex with a knife to his throat.
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Anybody else?
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He does look like that.
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Oh my God.
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I ran into a little bit of an issue and that is that verbally and vocally, Sam Tripoli
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sounds almost identical to Owen Benjamin.
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Oh, OK.
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Like the two of them sound very similar.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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Why are we kink shaming?
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Why are we kink shaming?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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There are so many reasons to hate Kushner.
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He's a fucking slumlord, exploitative, racist bullshitter who's married to the worst woman
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in the world, whose dad is the worst man in the world.
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And they're going to kink shame him?
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That's what they got?
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Fuck off.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, but again, that's like making a joke.
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That's making the joke.
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Is it?
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I mean, I guess he's trying, but he sucks at it if he's if that's the joke.
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I mean, that just sucks.
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That just sucks.
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Well, I'm not saying he's a good comic.
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I'm saying that the intention of a joke is there.
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Right.
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And that's what makes it so difficult.
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Right.
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In fact, you know what?
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I'll be honest with you.
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Like Sam Tripoli's voice and delivery is so similar to Owen Benjamin.
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And he has some things that, you know, sound similar to some of the things that Owen Benjamin
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says that are not good that I actually had to go check.
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Yeah.
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I'd be like.
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So you got a clip of Owen Benjamin saying some racist shit too?
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No, I had to go like find a video of this episode because it's like, I'm not positive
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this isn't Owen Benjamin pretending to be simple.
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But then I remember that Owen Benjamin used to do the fourth hour on Info Wars.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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He'd remember.
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I would assume so.
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Yeah.
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I although I imagine that if Owen Benjamin were going to imitate Sam Tripoli, it would
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be with a horrible Chinese accent.
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Right.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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They sound very similar.
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And then they say shit like this, which is like, again, I understand he's a comedian,
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but like there's a weird blurring of the lines of like, what do you think?
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What are you joking about?
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We all know that Hitler was a gay Jewish hill.
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He used to do.
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He was Jewish.
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He's a Rothschild and he had a crystal meth problem, which means you're going to get weird
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and try to stuff stuff into your prison wallet.
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Okay.
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And it just, he was obviously controlled opposition.
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So it's true.
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I mean, it's true.
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The guy was in the way.
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He was set up by British intelligence.
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So they had a peace treaty.
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He was a Rothchild.
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The King of England.
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He was a Rothchild.
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The EU.
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Is that, is that, I mean, is that proven?
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It's actually true that he's a Rothschild.
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Yeah.
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Well, his father was all this and his grandma, his grandmother was the maiden, the main Rothschild
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house.
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So I just don't under, I don't know what, at what point are you like goofing around
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and be like, Hitler was a gay Jewish shill.
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And when you continue the point and keep trying to argue it, you're not joking anymore.
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You're making an argument.
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I don't know.
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See, now I think he's genuinely just like really committing to the bit.
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It's hard for me to tell.
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I don't think so.
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I don't know.
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There's no possible way that he could believe that.
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It's just not, I mean, I guess.
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He does a podcast with Eddie Bravo.
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That's true.
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He can believe anything.
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And he's making Eddie seem fucking rational.
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Exactly.
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That's why it's gotta be, it's gotta be him being like, if I'm going to go on Info Wars,
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I am going to out conspiracy theory Alex.
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I don't know.
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That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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It really makes me wish that I had a, you know, unlimited time and I could like really
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just listen to hundreds of hours of Sam Tripoli to know if he's fucking with Alex or not.
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I might keep it on hand if SNL ever hires him.
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My hunch is that he's not.
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I don't think that this is fucking with Alex.
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I don't think it's like making a grand joke out of being on Info Wars.
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But at the same time, I think he's trying to be funny in his own presentation, which
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makes things pretty difficult.
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I can say that he's just wrong about a lot of stuff like this.
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We crushed that segment, dog.
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We crushed the segment.
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Yeah, they crushed that segment.
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This is a train wreck.
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It's pretty bad.
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It's, it's really all things, all things being equal.
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It's not good.
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No, it made it so like, I was thinking like, wow, Eddie Bravo and Sam Tripoli are going
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to be in studio two days in a row.
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This is going to be insanity.
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By the time I was like halfway through this, I was like, I'm definitely not listening to
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Friday.
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This is enough of this.
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It's surprising.
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It's surprising how out there it can be well at the same time being incredibly boring and
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stupid.
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Oh yeah, you're bored.
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I mean, would you rather Alex cover kooky crap like UFOs?
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I would.
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Those have turned out to be real.
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Unfortunately, Alex Jones does not cover kooky crap like UFOs.
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Why not?
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I don't cover all the kooky stuff and all the guys that saw UFOs, the government bases
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and all that made up crap.
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It's interdimensional.
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It's satanic, like the Bible says, and they're literally programming humans to build and
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change the earth into something for them.
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And then I guess they physically show up after that.
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But they're, they went to collaborators, made a deal and they go, you're going to merge
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with machines.
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You got to kill everybody, but we'll let a few of you work with us.
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If you kill yourselves, you'll become gods.
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Don't believe these devils.
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So Alex doesn't believe kooky crap like UFOs, but what he does believe is that there's interdimensional
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demons who have tricked a bunch of humans into being collaborators with them, wherein
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they destroy the environment in some such way that makes it so the demons can physically
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materialize and then everybody dies or something like that because it's like the Bible.
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So that's not kooky.
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That's not kooky crap.
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That's rational.
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That's grounded?
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Yeah.
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Look, Occam's Razor says that all of those things are the only possible answer, honestly.
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Totally.
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And Sherlock, Sherlock said famously, uh, that, uh, once you eliminate the impossible,
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all that's left, no matter how improbable is done by the fucking globalists.
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I remember that.
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And interdimensional demons.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So cool.
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Yeah.
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That's what Moriarty was.
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I do really do.
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I do enjoy that like Alex has such a, like such a skew towards his own ideas that like
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he impugns ufology in order to be like, that's crazy.
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This is not, it is always funny to find a, but you know, it's not like that's a line
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though.
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It's, it's a strategy, you know?
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Well, I mean, it's, you see the same thing in Project Camelot with Kerry being like,
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you think the Raptors are bad.
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I beg your pardon.
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I know Mark Richards, the Raptors are good and I'll hear no other, uh, yeah, yeah.
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It's yeah.
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And in these worlds that happens a lot.
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Yeah.
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You have to own your space and if you don't own your space, somebody's going to kick you
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out of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Drug dealing.
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You've got your corner.
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When everything is kind of make believe.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You have to be aggressive.
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Right.
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Uh, so when I was sort of wrestling with whether or not I believe Sam Tripoli is fucking around,
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um, this next clip really kind of helped put it in focus for me where I'm leaning towards
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he's not.
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Yeah.
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I'll let you decide what you think and the audience certainly can feel whatever they
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like.
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But I think this indicates on some level that he's really into this stuff and that he believes
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at least a good part of it.
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Google creates the social score, right?
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And China's so scared of the head of Google, uh, turning on them that they basically poisoned
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him and his kids and they're like, either you play ball or else you won't have the poison.
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And he's like, I ain't playing ball.
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One of his daughter passes away and he has to go to like North Korea to get a remedy.
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That's all real dude.
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I've heard the Chinese mafia is like killing everybody right now in LA.
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It's crazy dude.
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Oh dude.
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Really?
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They're in LA.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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So what he's talking about there, what Sam was talking about, there's a little kernel
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of truth to it.
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Um, and that is that Eric Schmidt did take his daughter Sophie along, uh, when he went
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to North Korea to visit there.
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The rest of this is conspiracy theory bullshit that's based on an anonymous source who talked
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to a group called anonymous Patriots claiming to be a former lover of Eric Schmitz.
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All of this completely unsubstantiated shit comes from a post on a blog that could have
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been written by anyone, uh, down to the claims that the trip to North Korea was about getting
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an antidote to the poison that China had given Schmitz daughter.
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Anonymous Patriots is a group that appears to either be a part of or the same thing as
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a group called American Intelligence Media, which as best as I can tell is a group of
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retirees who talk into their webcams about Trump a bunch.
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Right.
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So they are one of the three of their words in their name.
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You pick which one.
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Probably American.
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Interestingly, they've also interviewed Leo Zagami about the evils of the Vatican.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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He'll go anywhere.
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What did they, do they not know he did 9-11?
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They haven't heard yet.
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I assumed they would hate him.
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They're also really big into the 432 hertz vibration conspiracy, which I assure you will
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be a Wacky Wednesday episode down the road.
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Wait, is that like the poop frequency?
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No, there's a conspiracy that like the evil globalists, uh, fill in whatever group name
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you want.
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Yeah.
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They took over the music industry and changed the vibration, uh, of music in order to put
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bad vibes into the public, and that all of these artists that die young are people who
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tried to go with the 432 hertz because they were trying to bring positivity back into
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music, and then the globalists took them out.
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It has to do with those sort of debunked studies about the water crystals and stuff.
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It's a mess.
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There is a guy who showed up on Project Camelot and on InfoWars who's super into those conspiracies,
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and I promise we'll cover it down the road.
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It's complete nonsense.
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But these people are super into it.
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And they post a bunch of videos of, uh, 432 hertz, uh, music, and yeah, it's a mess.
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Man, I spent 10 years programming hearing aids, uh, 432 hertz is not any more special
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than any other of the frequency, man.
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You drank the Kool-Aid.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I looked into these people's website, and as best I can tell, it's just a group of old
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people who are really into the political power of memes and not so much into demonstrating
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their points.
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The big difference between them and Alex seems to be that Alex sells colloidal silver, whereas
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American Intelligence Media just gives out a recipe for it.
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They just tell you how to make your own.
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Oh.
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Well, I mean, you're gonna need a little bit of Ebola blood, and then you put it in together
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with colloids, and then you get some silver and you're good to go.
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Oh, and also American Intelligence Media were the people who originally posted the image
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of the judge in Roger Stone's case with crosshairs on her, which Roger retweeted, and that got
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him that gag order.
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Man.
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So they're in the mix.
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They're good people.
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Yeah.
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That's what you're telling me.
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Mm-hmm.
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So that's where all these claims originate.
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And the argument basically goes that China has poisoned the Schmidt family, and now they
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have to do their bidding or else China will stop giving them the antidote.
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I'm not an expert on these matters, but I'm not actually sure there are real poisons that
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work that way outside of movies.
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Given the lack of any specifics in this person's anonymous post, I find it unconvincing and
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impossible to look into, so I don't care.
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No, I read a book called Red Seas and Red Skies.
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It was in the Gentleman Bastards series, and that was heavily involved.
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Are there poisons that they just give you, and then if you don't keep taking the antidote
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you die?
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I don't know.
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That seems weird from a biological standpoint.
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I mean, it goes against most of what we know about stuff.
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But again, I'm not a biologist.
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I could be wrong, but that seems like, what's the name of that?
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Yeah, iocane powder?
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One thing that's a red flag about the way this story seems to be being told is also
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just the chronology.
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As expressed by Sam in that last clip, the theorists try to tie the death of Eric Schmidt's
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other daughter in to strengthen their claims.
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The implication is that Schmidt refused to play ball with the Chinese, so they killed
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his other daughter.
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And in desperation, he took his surviving daughter to North Korea to get the antidote
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to save her life.
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The problem is that that trip to North Korea took place in 2013, and his other daughter
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passed away in 2017.
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So that does confuse things a little bit from a chronology standpoint.
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It doesn't matter, though, theories like this are based on nothing, and they're very easy
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to tweak when you need to accommodate new information.
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So they could just be like, well, he went in 2013, but he secretly went again, or whatever.
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Sure, fine, yeah, get it in there.
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Over the course of my time doing this podcast, and even before that in recreational times,
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I've read a whole lot of dumb blogs that purport to be disseminating real information.
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This is one of them.
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And this is the sort of place people get this quote-unquote deep information from.
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This is not something you would know about unless you looked into these worlds, unless
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you were pretty involved in dumb conspiracy shit.
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That implies to me that Sam Tripoli is probably somebody who reads stupid shit a lot and believes
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it.
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Has to be.
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Because you wouldn't know this one.
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Right.
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You wouldn't know anything about that.
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Right.
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Oh, that is a good point.
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This is a revealing conspiracy theory.
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Because I thought it was all just made up nonsense on a riff, you know, he was just
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rapping and keeping the riff going.
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But if this is an actual specific conspiracy theory, then yeah, he totally has to believe
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that.
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Otherwise, what the fuck are you doing?
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The only other possibility, I guess, if you want to keep up the idea that he's fucking
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around is that it's like LARP or whatever, like he's in real deep, like it's method acting.
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He like goes into the stupid conspiracy sites and finds things in order to be like, this
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will help my character.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I find that to be unlikely.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Yeah, I agree with you though.
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If it was just something that I couldn't trace back to some kind of obscure source, then
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I would probably agree with you that it's just riffing.
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But this is absolutely a conspiracy that exists subterraneanly in this world.
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Yeah, well, I mean, that's why it was so confusing at first, because I could totally see me,
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like if I start on something like that, you know, it's like the closing little dumb bit
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about the stick drive and how to get our podcast, like that's just rapping and riffing.
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And so I could wind up anywhere with that.
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I have no idea where I'm going to go.
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Probably not making claims that the Chinese government tried to murder Eric Schmidt's
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family in order...
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Wait until we end this episode.
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Not looking forward to that.
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So Alex insists on playing the video of him pretending to be Xi for Eddie and Sam.
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No!
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He really wants to impress them.
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And Eddie's response is crazy.
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And get rid of Trump and Alex Jones, ha ha, you are not going to beat us.
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Dude, that was amazing.
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You can do that every show.
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Man, you should do voiceovers, bro.
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I think you'd be in the next Shrek.
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I've got pretty big voiceovers.
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You do.
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You do.
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But as soon as I...
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When I was bashing Obama and stuff, then they stopped giving me the work.
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But that's pretty big voiceovers.
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I know, man.
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You're my favorite voiceover actor.
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No, you guys are awesome, but seriously, enough about me.
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I have no evidence that Alex has done any voiceovers.
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That's because every time you've heard...
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He's ramped up his Chinese accent.
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Every time you've heard a Chinese accent on the radio, that was him.
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I guess he could say that his own documentaries, when he does the narration, is good voiceovers.
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But I don't know how criticizing Obama could take that away.
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Even he knew I can't hire me anymore for this.
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Oh no, this is too hot.
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I got too much heat on me.
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Yeah.
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I don't see any reality behind that claim.
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I suppose he could say that the rotoscope of Waking Life, that rotoscope could be considered
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voiceover.
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OK, Richard Linklater didn't want to work with him anymore or something.
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That very well might be true.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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But that probably didn't have to do with Obama.
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No, Alex, you're just a dick.
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Yeah, and what are you going to be, in boyhood?
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God, that would have been so good.
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What is he going to be?
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Is he going to be like Celine's other man in the next Before Sunrise?
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Yeah, of course.
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No.
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I don't think Linklater has a place for you outside of crazy guy in rotoscoped movies.
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Meet me here at midnight, and Alex Jones will yell at you for an hour.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I don't know.
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That could be what he's talking about.
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He also was on Jesse Ventura's show.
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And I guess that other one, Decoded, that Meltzer show, he was on a couple...
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I think he was just on the Bohemian Grove episode, though, as they tried to sneak into
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Bohemian Grove, and they're like, we gotta get Alex to come along, and they made a big
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production out of it.
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I just don't know what he's talking about.
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If I were PolitiFact, I would rate this claim dubious.
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I don't think they rate claims dubious.
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Probably not.
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But I can't prove that it's not true.
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Like what if Alex did some local commercials or something like that?
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I guess you could call those pretty big.
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Yeah.
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No, I'd be impressed.
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I had a voiceover agent for a little while.
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I got nothing.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's true.
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I did a ton of auditions for stuff.
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Yeah.
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That industry is fucked.
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Yeah.
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Crazy stuff.
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Anyway, before I get into my real bitter rant about voiceovers and your failings therein,
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let's move right along, because Alex has big news.
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Okay.
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Now, if you'll recall, in the past, Alex has said that Trump's got to get Greenland.
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We got to get it.
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Sure.
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We need to get it.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Alex has decided to move on from that.
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Okay, good.
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Though he was sincere.
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Okay.
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It's time to move on.
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Did you hear about the White House announcement?
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What?
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It's on infoawards.com and the White House petitions.
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I'm not going to talk about it until we come back, but it's big.
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They have announced that there is a petition, and the White House, the president looking
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at it, to announce a 51st state.
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Guess what the 51st state is?
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We're not going to tell people yet.
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The 51st state, ladies and gentlemen.
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This is not a joke.
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This is a real proposal.
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You thought Trump wanted Greenland?
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Oh, the Millikins.
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See, we got to think big here.
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The moon.
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How did you guess it?
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I saw one of your notes here.
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Millikins, stop.
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Shut up.
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What?
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What?
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American Spy Spore.
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Really?
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Is that real?
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It's real.
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Go click on the link.
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Show them the White House.
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Show them the petition.
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Whose idea is this?
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Mine.
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Okay.
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It's Alex's idea.
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Annexing the moon.
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I do love how Eddie ruined the reveal there, though.
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Yeah.
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Way to fucking run the bit, Eddie.
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I honestly think Eddie comes off the best.
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Yeah, it seems like it so far.
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He seems like someone who's just like, all right, whatever.
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It really frustrates me that that really, that high pitch really, was not where I was
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coming from, which is, you're still doing the Chinese thing?
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That's pretty nuts.
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See, now, that's why I would say really, and his was, you're going to annex the moon?
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That's crazy.
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Alex has presented it as if this is a serious proposal anyone's making and that Trump is
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considering this.
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It was just Alex doing something for attention again.
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I just did a change.org petition.
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That's what I fucking hate about listening to Alex's show in the present day.
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None of this means anything.
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When I hear Alex say something like, I started a petition to make the moon the 51st state,
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it's something that's hard to ignore because it's stupid, but at the same time, it's painfully
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obvious that this is a desperate cry for attention.
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You can almost hear Alex off air talking to Rob Dew trying to convince him of the PR blitz
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that's going to come from Media Matters and the Huffington Post making fun of Alex's petition
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to annex the moon.
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You can almost see the intention behind this.
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It's all about trying to use other media outlets to give him free press that he doesn't have
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access to himself.
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That's all that's going on here because honestly, annexing the moon isn't a serious suggestion
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to make even for Alex.
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He knows damn well that that would be a very serious breach of international law and probably
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grounds for war.
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All countries that are capable of space travel have signed the 1967 Outer Space Treaty that
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explicitly makes space the property of everyone and forbids countries from laying claim to
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things in outer space.
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Annexing the moon would absolutely break that treaty, which would probably piss off literally
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every other country on the planet.
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Yeah.
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Well, at the same time, they would breathe a long sigh of fuck off.
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Right.
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It would be a weird situation where it's like, we have to go to war over this dumb bullshit.
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Fuck you, Trump.
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I don't want to do this.
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You know who generally makes claims on outer space things?
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Scam artists.
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There's a pretty rich tradition of con men claiming that they own parts of space in order
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to sell them to idiots.
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In that kind of way, Alex is spiritually continuing their legacy, which makes total sense because
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that's all he's up to.
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It just makes me sad.
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You see this racist trolling with the G video and you're like, oh, you're trying to get
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people to respond to this in order to get your name in the media.
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Oh, you're starting a change.org petition to annex the moon and pretending Trump is
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taking it seriously in order to get press media.
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Oh, sad.
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It is.
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It is.
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It's a bummer.
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It really is.
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What's I think what's even more annoying is that were he to get that media attention,
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he would get more people like supporting him just just by being mentioned as saying something
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stupid and then debunking it.
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People will instinctively like circle the wagons and be like, I don't care about Alex
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Jones whatsoever until you sent this message, but now I know you're lying and I love Alex
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and fake news.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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I think with the moon one to even more so than than the video, because that goes into
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like what made him attractive to people in the first place, which was craziness, whereas
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the other one is just racism.
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Like you'll get some runoff from bigots from the people covering the video, but you'll
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get more people who are like just into paranormal space shit, and I think that's probably like
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what he needs to do.
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If he's smart, he would veer hard back into that stuff, but he's not smart.
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And it's even more lame because it's not like he came up with the idea whole cloth, like
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they were having hearings on D.C. becoming a state, you know, so it's like all he has
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to do is be like, oh, look, they're doing that.
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So guess what?
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He's a state now, too, and he's already done the Greenland.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That one's that one's played out.
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Yeah.
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So they do talk a little bit about Shane Gillis, the guy who got fired from SNL.
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Great.
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That's what I want to do.
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Well, but we're not going to talk about that much.
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That's just sort of a setup for what gets Sam into this mindset of like complaining
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about the idea that you can't do anything anymore.
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All these moralists are going to come down on you if you.
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And so I think that he makes a really fallacious argument here and do a festival that the Legion
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of Skanks people do.
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They got mad at a show on Legion of Skanks, said some crazy stuff.
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It's Legion of Skanks.
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Like, why are you bringing your own private thing into something?
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Yeah, it's ridiculous.
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It's not for you.
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Like, I hate the view.
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The view is the worst show ever, but they can do that.
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It's not for me.
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So I should get them off the air.
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No, you just don't watch what you don't like.
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Yeah, it's like let it go.
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Let people do their own thing.
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And I tell you, the view is the stupidest show on the planet.
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Alex spends so much time complaining about the view, like he spent so much time yelling
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about Joy Behar in the past.
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Like, I understand that that might be Sam Tripoli's opinion, but he's on Alex's show
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where he covers the view a lot.
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Like don't try to pretend that like this is an exclusive behavior of people on the left,
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let's say, or people who are upset about places that, you know, I guess the complaint about
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Louis C.K. that he's, that's what he's talking about, the Legion of Skanks Festival.
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So they booked Louis C.K. and the idea that most people had was it creates an unsafe working
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environment for potentially like young women comics that might be uncomfortable being around
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him.
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That was more of the conversation than like Louis is going to say something offensive.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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So I get that, and I understand wanting to push back on that and be like, ah, you're
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being censorious and moral policing and stuff, but like, don't fucking pretend that you're
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not a guest on a show that does the exact same thing, just in reverse.
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It's ridiculous.
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I, ugh, these people are so stupid.
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And that's a dumb argument.
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That's a dumb argument because what if you live it, I don't think it's that dumb.
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If your position is wholly like, everybody leave everybody alone.
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If you do that yourself, then you can say it.
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I don't know if it's smart, but I'm not going to argue with you.
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I'm not going to fight you on it.
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The fact that he's saying it on Alex's show makes it unacceptable.
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I mean, if you, yeah, but if you do that, you're the Unabomber.
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Funny you should say that.
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No, how is it, we're not turning into the guys who talk about the fucking Unabomber,
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are we?
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We're not.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, let's get into the, listen, dude.
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I mean, you might be a Kavanaugh guy.
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I think that whole sex thing was all drummed up to kind of frame it and the sexual exports.
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But what do you expect away from Kavanaugh himself to something fake?
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Yeah.
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So what like, oh, the guy wrote the Patriot Act.
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He believes that the president's above the law.
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He's against, he doesn't think that the cops need search warrants to come in your house.
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There's a whole stuff, a whole lot of stuff that they didn't want you actually discussing.
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So they brought this thing and they had this woman whose father was in charge of finding
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funding for CIA black ops or observations does work for the CIA.
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Yeah.
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She's part of that whole recruitment center, that whole recruitment center at Stanford
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where they, they just shish kabob the Unabomber and you should read the Unabomber's manifesto
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and realize the guy nailed everything that's going on.
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He was in MK ultra.
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There we go.
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Yep.
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How crazy is it that you brought the Unabomber in the next clip with Sam Tripoli yelling
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about how the Unabomber was right?
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Well, because his argument is Unabomber's argument.
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It's very simple.
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He's that guy at a party, man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's a drew Michael's bit all over the, the like, don't read the Unabomber's
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manifesto.
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I don't want to be the guy who's like, actually, if you read the manifesto, there's a few,
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you don't need to be that guy.
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There's no point.
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I'm not sure that was his bit.
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That might be what you took away from it.
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Something along those lines.
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It's a, yeah.
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I mean like, all right, sure, whatever.
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I don't, I don't care.
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Listen to this.
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I don't care.
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No.
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This is a rambly, yelly dude who you've already seen like kind of where some of the claims
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he'll repeat come from.
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I don't give a fuck what you're saying anymore.
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No.
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And now you've just completely embodied the guy I don't want to talk to, which is like
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just, just perfectly crystallized as yelling the Unabomber was right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because if you're saying that, then you probably agree that his conclusions are right too.
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Right.
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Like, do you think it was right for him to mail bombs?
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Well, I mean, he was right in a more broad sense.
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To what extent was the man right?
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You know, you had, look, you got to wake people up somehow and it was the seventies.
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Everybody was Unabombing at the time.
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That's a normal thing to do.
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Sure.
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Buh.
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Buh.
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Buh.
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But if somebody seriously says the Unabomber was right, you can extrapolate all the other
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shit you don't like about them immediately.
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Yeah.
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It's a, it's kind of a tell.
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Yeah.
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That's how I want to greet people at parties like, Hey, you think the Unabomber is right?
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Cool.
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Then we can hang out.
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Um, so Alex gets back to the annexing the moon thing.
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Um, and I think in this next clip, we kind of figure out what this is all about.
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We are pushing for the 51st state of the United States to not be Greenland, which is a good
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strategic move.
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Move.
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We bought Alaska.
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We bought a lot of other areas.
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It makes perfect sense.
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The globalists don't want us doing it.
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They want the UN to control the Arctic, the Antarctic.
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They want the UN and global government to control these things.
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They don't have nation states that people can actually elect and control to some extent
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to have this.
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Well, document cam shot, please drum roll.
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Let's think bigger here.
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Let's annex the moon as the 51st state signed the white house petition.
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Again, I need to be totally clear about this.
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What Alex is doing is making a white house petition.
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I mean, that'll never happen, but imagining that it would, he's advocating an international
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crime, right?
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Like he is, he is trying to convince the white house to do something that is, it would be
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an incident.
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Right, right, right, right.
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This is crazy.
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Well, I watched Aqua Teen Hunger Force and I, I know that the moon and nights are dicks,
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so I would say we don't even want them as a state, not positive that in the time I've
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listened to the show, Alex has advocated for an international crime buying Greenland.
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I don't know if that would be an international crime severely fucked up, but the channels
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of buying the code, if that were something that were possible, that wouldn't necessarily
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be like completely against international law.
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Right.
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It's been a long time since a country has bought a country, but annexing the moon.
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Uh, oh boy.
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Well, and then we'd have to annex a slave state, of course, in order to offset the,
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all right.
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A slave planet.
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Exactly.
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Well, we are the slave, we are the prison planet.
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Well, that's fair enough.
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I don't know what the deal is with this.
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You know what I mean?
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I don't know if this is the same as like Alex trying to advocate for Trump to commit a different
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international crime, but it would be, it's goofy and it's stupid, but at the same time
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he's advocating for a crime.
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Yeah, I don't think, I genuinely don't think anybody cares.
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Nope.
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But Alex wants them to care because it's about the publicity.
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Linked at info wars.com.
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I'm not joking.
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We walked on the moon and he's gonna talk about tomorrow how he believes that I'm joking
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first.
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So we can claim it and plus we're in America better than the UN, the chai comms or all
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these other folks.
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So sign the petition.
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None of those other countries are going to claim the moon.
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He's acting like we've got to do it before they do.
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Yeah.
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Well, we're in a new space race.
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Apparently the space race to just say the moon is ours.
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Right?
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That one's a lot harder than the whole, you know, building rockets and ask not what your
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country could do for you.
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This is based on a false premise.
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No, you just say the moon is ours now.
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Ridiculous.
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And, drum roll please, look at this.
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These shirts are being printed as we speak.
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They'll be in next week.
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This designer cloth feels really great.
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He's not selling shirts.
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Yes.
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It's a full color.
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It's the astronaut coming over the moon.
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It says operation 51st state space force on the right arm, the back news wars.
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It is amazing.
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No reviews yet, but the shirt, I did this so quick today, it can't be 1995, it's a designer
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shirt.
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The printing costs more.
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The shirt costs $10.
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The printing's going to cost $3.
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I told him I moved quick.
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It's getting printed right now.
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It's going to be, it's going to be $29.95.
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I guess you can get your order in, it's $19.95.
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But that's how we do these plugs here.
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Things are moving quick.
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So it's all about selling a shirt.
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It's going to be a $30 shirt?
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Yeah.
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It's all buzz marketing for the shirt.
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Look, he's doing this change.org petition that he knows no one's going to take fucking
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seriously.
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Even if a billion people signed it, no one's going to fucking annex the moon.
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You need to change international law in order to do that.
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He's doing it in order to drum up like possible coverage for it in order to drive sales for
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this stupid shirt.
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But also the fact that he's putting out more shirts and all this stuff, it makes me think
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that that we have a year left thing might have been more of a sales ploy.
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I'm leaning closer to that direction than it being a sincere existential threat.
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Yeah.
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It seems more like the products that we have a year left on is all the supplement shit.
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It's not like the show is going to end, it's just he's going to stop selling supplements.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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I mean, he's like now at like 75% off or something.
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He's claiming, I don't know if it's true, but he's claiming some of it is like below
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cost.
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Like he's losing money on selling it.
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I don't know how much of that is true.
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It could just be all bravado and nonsense sales, but like it doesn't feel like that
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was sincere is what I'm getting at.
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So Eddie's response to this is immediately to be like, you know what you should do?
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You should change the name of that to Operation State 51 because he's doing a play on Area
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51.
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And Alex is not quite picking up on what he's talking about.
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Eddie keeps being like, no, no, no, you need to change the name.
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Trust me.
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Change the name.
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Oh boy.
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And it's, you know, it is what it is.
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It's not that interesting.
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Way over his head.
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Because what's more interesting is that Alex has an idea for Eddie.
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He wrote the Declaration of Indemundance.
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No, no, no, no.
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He has an idea about how the UFC, a very successful company, can get a doubling of their audience,
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I believe.
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Okay.
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And his idea is pretty...
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Brilliant?
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No.
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Oh.
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The UFC had a double their audience right now.
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Cut them in half.
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There's a lot of ways.
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Actually, I'm glad they didn't let them kill each other.
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Okay.
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But I'm up for that.
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But you could have like the biggest guys, like Brock Lesnar at his peak or whatever,
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and then they'll fight like, say, three lightweights at the same time.
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Yep.
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Let's do it.
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That would double viewers.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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Add some pit bulls...
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Shit.
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Break records.
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I think Eddie is dismissive there.
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That is totally Eddie being dismissive.
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I think he's like, yeah, great idea.
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Let's fucking do dog fighting too.
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Let's have humans fight animals.
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Yeah.
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That would boost ratings.
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That is fun.
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Let's have three little guys fight a big guy.
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That is fun.
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Eddie Bravo is so fucking stupid everywhere.
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But if you step into his fucking room, he's gonna put you down.
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UFC is his thing and he's gonna be like, oh yeah, that's a great fucking idea, you idiot.
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I don't think that's it.
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I think that he's maybe matured a little bit.
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I don't know.
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This is probably...
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This is speculation right there.
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Given no other context, I would say that it sounds more like Eddie is hip to Alex more
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than he has been in the past.
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And he's still, in the same way that Joe is less willing to believe things sight unseen
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than he might have been 15 years ago, it seems like Eddie might also be a little bit like,
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this guy might be full of shit, but whatever, we're friends.
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It seems like he's putting up with him more, whereas Sam is the Eddie of the show.
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Right, right, right.
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Because Sam doesn't have as much experience there.
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Yeah.
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Sam hasn't been burned as many times.
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It's possible.
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I don't know.
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I wonder if Sam is just a bigger idiot.
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It's the vibe I got while I was listening to this.
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It's like Eddie feels over it and kind of like, whatever, and Sam seems like he's eager
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to impress Alex and yell a whole bunch about bullshit.
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That is a fun microcosm of the very situation that we're talking about with Alex's ebb and
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flow of listener.
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They jump in, they listen for a while, they listen to what Alex has to say, they get burned
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too many times, and then they go.
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And then Sam is our new listener who jumps in, he's interested in what he has to say
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for a while, and then when he gets burned enough, he's going to go.
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Probably.
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He'll realize that Alex has no idea what he's talking about, just makes shit up.
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But maybe Sam's the kind of guy who also likes to do that sort of thing, and it's a good
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partnership and he won't disappear.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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But whatever the case is...
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Maybe Sam's about to host the fourth hour a lot.
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Could be.
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It's a strange dynamic, but Alex, I gotta remind you before this next clip, this is
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a family show.
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Yeah.
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You ever like Dirty Street with the ladies, like a little jiu-jitsu in the bedroom?
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Like, you know, a little...
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Say that again?
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A little jiu-jitsu in the bedroom.
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I know we don't do that.
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That's good.
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I like hot chicks who do jiu-jitsu because they choke me out, and no blood to this...
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Family show.
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Wow.
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Family show.
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I don't like any of that.
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That's all bad.
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He was even trying to be funny with that whole thing, and that was worse.
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I do like Eddie's...
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Say that again?
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Yeah.
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I do like that sort of, like, come on?
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No.
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No, we don't do that.
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Oh, man.
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So, they start talking about Trump's election a little bit, and I think that this clip is
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really interesting because I think it really highlights how Alex can't quite get his story
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straight about whether or not Trump was elected by the will of the people or by good guys
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in the intelligence community.
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I think he can't quite square that they're mutually exclusive things, and so he just
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says both.
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The globalists made a deal.
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They married the shycons, and so at the 11th hour, 58th minute, U.S. intelligence had
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a civil war, put Trump in.
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He was really elected, but it's not the Russians did it.
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U.S. intelligence put Trump in, a ragtag group, and now they're threatening everybody, attacking
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their families, and then if you support them, like me, I'm not in any intelligence group,
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I'm just a private organic Texan, then they come after you.
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I mean, it's been amazing.
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I've loved it, actually.
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I mean, it's real toe-to-toe with these people, and they're a bunch of devil-worshiping pedophiles.
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It's a devil-worshiping pedophile group against us, and that's why Kanye shouted for Jesus.
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It's Jesus versus Satan.
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So I don't think you can make the argument that good guys in the intelligence community
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installed Trump and simultaneously it was the American people who put him in.
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Not just that.
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It was a ragtag band of heroes, Dan.
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We got our Bruce Willis, we got our Ben Affleck, we got our Steve...
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All of them are Steve Botchanik.
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We got Steve Buscemi as well.
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Who is also Steve Botchanik, yeah.
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And then, but he was also actually elected.
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William Binney is in the mix.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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It's horseshit.
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See, what was happening is the will of the people was we elected him, but then the bad
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CIA people were gonna say we didn't elect him, so then the ragtag band of heroes came
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in and reoriented the, like, righted the...
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It was a counter-coup.
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Legitimately, on his show, the people are, like, the only person I really know for sure
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who tells him about that ragtag gang of intelligence agents, and the fact that Alex has now come
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to the point where he doesn't believe Steve anymore, and we've gone back and seen why
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he should never have believed Steve, it's crazy that he's held onto that piece of information
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that clearly is from Steve.
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Like, it's very weird.
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Like, you need to reconsider things when the source of something is shown to be a liar.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's only going forward.
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You can't ignore what Steve said ex post facto, Dan.
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That's in the law.
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Well, I mean, I guess if it means that you have to, like, if you completely change everything
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you do to accommodate the bad information, it becomes really difficult to own up to the
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fact that I got tricked by this dude.
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Yeah, especially if you claim to be right 99% of the time, and then you have to go back
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and go through your archives and be like, oh, that one's Steve.
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That wasn't true.
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Oh, that one's Steve.
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Oh, my God.
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That wasn't true.
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Oh, that one was Steve.
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Oh, fu-
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It's a problem.
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My batting average is down to 88% always correct.
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Certainly nowhere near that.
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So Eddie and Sam, I think one of their main objectives in coming on the show is to play
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a deepfake video that Kyle Dunnigan, comedian Kyle Dunnigan, had made about Jeffrey Epstein's
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death, where, like, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are trying to get Epstein to autoerotically
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asphyxiate himself.
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Oh, okay.
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It's not great comedy.
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So it's like a bit.
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The two of them are talking to Epstein, and they're like, hey, this is a fun movie.
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They're like eating popcorn and trying to get, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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So this is definitely a family show.
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It's a family show.
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And it's also not funny.
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It is what it is.
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I don't care.
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What's more interesting is that after the video, Alex, there's a real trend that he's
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trying to impress them and trying to, like, this is so perfectly encapsulating of that.
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This is so crazy.
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Okay.
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So people who just saw them on TV understand what it was.
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It's a joke.
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Tell us who's doing the deepfakes.
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Kyle Dunnigan.
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He's amazing.
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He's a comedian.
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He's a master.
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Yeah, he's always at the Comedy Store, and he does his Instagram.
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Does he know Trump?
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Because that's reportedly how Trump actually eats popcorn.
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I'm not joking.
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I don't know.
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That's what he does.
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For real?
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Yeah.
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A man studies his characters.
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That's what he's the Daniel Day Lewis of deepfakes.
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That's what they call him.
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Yeah.
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Just go on Instagram and look up Kyle Dunnigan.
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And he's got a whole bunch of videos like that that are hysterical.
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Yeah.
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I was told by somebody who hung out with Trump quite a bit that when he's relaxing, he has
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to be really focused all the time, but he'll get in his theater room or whatever, and he'll
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just be basically in a robe or whatever, and he actually just throws popcorn in his face.
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And it just does that.
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I was like, whoa, this guy knows Trump.
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That's like inside baseball.
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Serious.
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He's connected.
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Yeah.
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I've been told that by actually two people.
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I asked them if they know Trump.
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They were like, no, that's actually true.
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That's what they do.
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Oh, my God.
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Trump throws popcorn at his face.
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This is inside information.
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Yeah.
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That's so...
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Alex is so desperate to act like he knows secret things or like, hey, man, I know things
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that only friends would know.
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It's so sad.
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You know what's more likely?
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That's how an asshole eats popcorn.
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And he's doing a caricature of an asshole.
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That is how an asshole eats popcorn.
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Oh, man.
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Either that or we elected Howard Hughes, I suppose.
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That's pretty much it.
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You know, I don't begrudge anyone for hanging out in a robe, watching a film or whatever.
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Especially not if you've got a personal theater for yourself.
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And who amongst us hasn't tossed food at our face?
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Throw it in the air and try and catch it in your mouth.
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Everybody likes to have fun.
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Every now and again.
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Right.
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That's not inside information.
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All in moderation.
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That's not inside information.
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It would have been any detail.
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It could have been any detail in that.
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Something in that video, and he would have been, oh, man, I know people who said that
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that's true.
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He could be drinking through a straw and be like, did you know that Trump always uses
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a straw?
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He totally uses a straw.
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No matter what cup, no matter what cup, always uses a straw.
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It could be anything.
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Mug, straw.
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It's just so desperate to be associated.
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Goblet, straw.
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I've got to impress you guys.
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You guys like this stuff.
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I'm in it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to get Trump to get us the moon.
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I am from the dark.
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Sad.
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So they start complaining.
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This is the last clip I've got here because, I mean, this shit's all over the place, whatever.
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I don't think it's really worthwhile to go over him just yelling about how Trump needs
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to let Assange go.
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Yeah.
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Whatever.
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Who cares?
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And Alex's Epstein stuff, I really don't find interesting at all, and I find kind of irresponsible
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and I'm not super interested in it.
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But Alex and the guests are complaining about the Young Turks and whatever.
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I'm sick of them being right.
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I don't know.
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I have mixed feelings on some of this, but I think that they're being very unfair.
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And then also Sam Tripoli says something at the end of this that is a strong indication
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that some of his beliefs might be much worse than even he's presenting on this episode.
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And then he names it after the militia that did it, the Young Turks.
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Yeah, he knew what he was doing, dude.
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You know what?
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And you know you're wrong.
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Rebrand it.
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And again, that was Muslims killing Christians.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we could get into the Kizarians, but that's another story.
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That's another story.
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But yeah, it's real.
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So what?
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I have zero interest in going to bat for Cenk and the Young Turks.
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Cenk in particular has had some really fucking terrible opinions in the past.
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But to his credit, I've definitely seen him respond to criticism in a human way, reflecting
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that his positions have changed and all that shit.
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That's probably not the case for all the things he said that have been not great, but I know
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that he's absolutely addressed the horrible things that he'd written on his blog and positions
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that he had that were denying of the Armenian genocide.
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Oh shit.
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Yeah.
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I did not know about that.
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When he was younger, he had some denialist claims about the Armenian genocide.
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That's terrible stuff.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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It's definitely a big asterisk on his credibility, but he's been pretty consistent in the more
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recent past.
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I should say very consistent in the more recent past that he didn't know enough back then.
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He shouldn't have commented on the issue and that he believes that the genocide is real.
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I don't know if that lets him off the hook or if anyone should trust his judgment at
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all.
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I don't know.
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That's a choice everyone's got to make for themselves.
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I don't really have a strong position on it.
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I don't think that genocide denialism is something that you can take lightly, even if someone
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corrects their position.
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I think that's pretty out there, but at the same time, I understand learning more.
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I don't think it's impossible to change, and I give the benefit of the doubt that it is.
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Because when you have somebody who's a Holocaust denier, generally you don't see the progression
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of them apologizing and coming around like, I had terrible information.
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I didn't know enough.
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I never should have said those things.
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That behavior isn't really typical of people who are dyed-in-the-wool denialists.
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So I don't know.
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So I don't know exactly what to make of Cenk and his positions.
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I don't have a strong position on it, I guess.
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I don't know.
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The name the Young Turks, I don't think it's a reference to the militia that was involved
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in the Armenian genocide, as Alex and Sam Tripoli are suggesting.
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Cenk was born in Istanbul, and his original show was just called The Young Turk, because
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he's young and Turkish.
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One of the problems with Alex and Tripoli deciding that the Young Turks is a reference
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to that militia is that to do so, to say that, is to ignore literally all the other times
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groups have used the name Young Turks.
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It's a pretty common name.
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Typically, it's a name that's been taken on by people who are trying to change the direction
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of their own party from within.
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For instance, a group of New Zealand politicians in the national party were trying to push
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for reform in the 60s, and they took on the name the Young Turks.
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The same is true of a group of Republicans who worked together after Barry Goldwater
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lost that election really embarrassingly and tried to replace leadership in the party,
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like they tried to change things from within.
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But while it's true that these groups all take their name from the Turkish nationalist
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group the Young Turks, who were involved in the Armenian genocide, that is definitely
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true.
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And based on that, I would say that none of these groups should have used that name, and
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Rod Stewart shouldn't have made a song called Young Turks in 1981.
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I would have chosen different names for all of it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He should have let Ted Nugent name that song.
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Sure.
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That being said, I think it's far more plausible that this term, Young Turks, has taken on a completely
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different context by the time that Cenk started his show, and the colloquial meaning of the
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word completely fit his mission, which is to say that he wanted to change the Democratic
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Party from within.
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And it also fit the description of himself, Young and Turkish.
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It makes sense as a name given the use of the name in political worlds and a descriptor
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of himself.
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I think that he was trying to name himself after the Turkish militia as much as he was
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using a term.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Now, if you want to argue about whether any of these groups should have used the term,
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like I said, maybe not.
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Right, right, right.
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Well...
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Maybe not.
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There's a...
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I mean, you know, just because something has been, what, I suppose, laundered?
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I don't know.
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That very, very negative connotation being passed through a bunch of different iterations
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of using it as a positive term.
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You know, it's...
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You still don't want...
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Just because things may have changed, you're still not going to call your show the Stasi,
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you know?
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Right.
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You know, like, you just don't.
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Just don't, you know?
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Well, I mean, like what, you know, Nazi troops called stormtroopers.
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You got stormtroopers in the Star Wars universe.
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Right.
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You're the hero of your story.
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One of them is in the new version.
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Fair enough.
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That's fair.
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Yeah, I mean...
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That's fair.
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It's not the exact same thing.
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Right.
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But...
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Whatever.
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I'm not going to defend Cenk aggressively here.
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Yeah.
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I'm not...
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Whatever the situation is, I'm positive it's far more complicated than he named his group
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after this militia.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But it is complicated.
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But what I am going to say, though, for sure, is that Sam Tripoli dropped an unfortunate
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bomb at the end of his sentence.
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Alex is saying that it was Muslims killing Christians, and Sam butts in that it was Kaserians.
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But that's another story.
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That is definitely another story.
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It's a strong indication that Sam Tripoli might be one of these guys who thinks that
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most Jewish people aren't actually Jewish, and actually are the descendants of Kaserian
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Turks.
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Oh, that's the same one!
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Fuck me!
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Yeah.
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God damn...
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He's a fucking...
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Maybe.
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Maybe unknowingly...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Pushing forth this...
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He just likes conspiracy theories, maybe, or he's a fucking British Israelist.
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Well, it's possible.
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It seems like the surrounding context leads to that conclusion, because why did that rebuttal
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come up when Alex said it was Muslims killing Christians?
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Seems like Sam wanted to say actually it was the Jews, but hid behind a little code that
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most people won't see for the anti-Semitic trash that it is.
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And maybe he doesn't even realize.
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When you're someone who believes every dumb piece of nonsense you read online, and you
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show up on the Alex Jones show and make Eddie Bravo sound super rational, I don't have a
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lot of faith in the point that you're trying to make when you bring up Kaserians.
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It's a gigantic buzzword in the more anti-Semitic areas of conspiracy theory.
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And this ill-informed douche hosts a show called Tin Foil Hat.
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So I'm gonna just go ahead and say, this is a red flag for me.
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Yeah, that's a big one.
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Every time we scratch a conspiracy theorist, you get somebody who hates the Jews.
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But it might not be me.
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No, I'm not even saying...
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It might be mask-tate.
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Yeah.
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It might just be a belief that you'd understand on a deeper level that, yeah, man, all right,
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all right, the New World Order is run by Jews, but they're not really Jews, they're Ashkenazi
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Jews who are actually Turkish people, the Kaserian Turks who invaded, and they turned
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into Jews, they converted to Judaism in order to take over the world and get the birthright
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back that Esau lost.
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Man.
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Right.
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That's some fairyland thinking right there.
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It makes me worried.
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It makes me worried that he drops that in there, but...
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Yeah, that...
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You can't really definitively say what he means, because he doesn't expand on it, because
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it's another story.
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It's another story.
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But the way that Alex doesn't respond and leaves it hanging makes me think that Alex
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is maybe aware that, like, uh-oh.
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If this dude talks more, he might say...
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I had David Duke on to push away from this situation.
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Yeah.
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It's troubling.
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So I don't know.
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I guess the end conclusion to this is that Alex had Eddie and Sam Tripoli on, and Alex
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is desperate for attention.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because everything you see is like, why is he doing that?
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It's like, oh, obviously, just like, oh, he's doing this G video because he wants to try
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and bait people into covering it, and just doing this, let's take over the moon thing
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because he wants to sell a shirt.
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It's sad.
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You look at the presentation, it's so, like...
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You jump back and forth from the past to the present, and in the past, he's terrible, but
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you move to the present, and like I said, nothing means anything.
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You see why he's doing these things, and all roads lead back to like, pay attention to
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me.
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Well, he's the character from Glengarry Glen Ross.
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He's what, Lemon's character?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Who steals the leads.
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Yeah, he's the sad old man realizing that he doesn't have it anymore, and his desperation
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reeks so bad that whatever it was that he was trying to do, you're just so turned off
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by the desperation.
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Are you Alec Baldwin, then?
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Me?
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No.
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I'm just an extra.
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But you know.
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I think I'm just an extra.
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Are there extras?
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I'm pretty sure.
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There's a play.
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There's gotta be somebody in the background.
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I think they're like, six characters.
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I'm a background artist, okay?
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Alright.
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There might be like, a bartender.
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Yeah, exactly!
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I'm the bartender.
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I'm fine with being the bartender.
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Alright.
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I don't need the sales anymore.
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I think most of it takes...
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Oh, you could be the husband.
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I'll be the husband?
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Yeah!
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I'm a stay-at-home dog dad now.
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That's what I'm...
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That takes place in an office, I think.
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Yeah.
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And a restaurant booth.
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So, I really, sincerely think there might be six...
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That I'm a waitress.
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There might be six actors in that movie.
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I'm one of the trees.
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Okay.
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So yeah, I don't know.
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Just desperate.
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Yeah, I think it's a pretty good way to define it.
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It's like he's past his prime and he's trying to steal the Glengarry leads in order to stay
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relevant.
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Absolutely.
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And in order for him to pull that scam off, he needs the media to pay attention to this
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stuff.
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And one of the things that I actually think is pretty heartening is that I haven't seen
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people posting about this Zhi video where he's a dragon.
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I haven't seen people posting about just overt racist Asian voice.
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And that's good.
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I think that's progress.
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I wish we didn't talk about it because I think even that gives it more attention.
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But this context doesn't really help promote him.
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So I think it's okay on some level for us to discuss this, especially within the context
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of this is just a desperate cry for look at me.
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Yeah, look at the saddest man in the world.
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That's what we're doing.
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Yeah.
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And on the same token, I don't know if this isn't going to grow or something, but I haven't
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seen anybody covering him trying to annex the moon.
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So that's also heartening because he needs those outlets to cover those things in order
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to spread the message further than he has the ability to.
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So resisting that impulse seems to be what people are doing, and I applaud them for it.
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But we'll see.
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We'll see what happens.
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I don't know what we're going to do for Monday.
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I can't imagine spending the time to listen to another episode with Eddie and Sam.
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No, they've got great comedic timing together.
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They're all kind of yes-anding.
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None of them are yelling over each other, trying to get to the same bit at the same
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time.
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It's all good stuff, you know?
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Everybody's listening and responding appropriately in the moment.
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They crushed all the segments.
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The first segment?
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Crushed.
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The second segment?
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Crushed.
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Off the rails.
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Crushed.
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So we'll see what happens, but either way, we'll be back on Monday with a new episode
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for y'alls.
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Indeed, we will.
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Sorry again about this being a little delayed, but it happens.
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But until Monday, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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Even after Monday.
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Yeah, we're not going to take the website down on Tuesday, but the website that you
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could visit that we might take down on Tuesday is knowledgefight.com.
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That's right.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
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Yep.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are.
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And if you want to listen to our show, you can go to iTunes.
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You could download, you could leave a review, but let me tell you something.
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That's not the best way to do it.
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What you're going to want to do is take you and your family to a vacation in Cabo.
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Okay.
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Cabo.
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Okay.
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You go about four feet into the ocean at high tide.
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You're going to want to do it at low tide because it doesn't seem as far, but high tide
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reach down directly underneath that.
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There will be a seashell and let me tell you something that's going to have a little stick
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drive on it.
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I was really hoping you were somehow going to weave in David Lee Roth in this Cabo Wabo.
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Is that David Lee Roth?
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I don't think it is.
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I don't know.
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I think it's the other guy from Van Halen.
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I think so.
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I don't care.
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Sammy Hagar.
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Sammy Hagar.
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Whoever has that tequila.
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Love his pants by the way.
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I was hoping he would show up with a bottle of tequila that has the thumb drive in it,
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but I respect the seashell.
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No, it's a metaphysical two bottles of tequila actually.
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Metaphysically.
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Yes.
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So anyway, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the Jesus Lizard.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
