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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledgefight, knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys, knowledgefight

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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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Need, need money, need

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas

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Stop it, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas

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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us

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Hello Alex, I'm a victim, calling in with your Japan

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I love your world, knowledgefight

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Indeed we are Dan

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Also, longer theme song back on special request of my mom

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Wait, what?

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My mom voiced her opinion that she missed the longer theme song

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but I used the shortened version on the last episode

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Hold on, now she's listening to the show?

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She has told me, I'm not sure if she listens to full episodes

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She just listens to the, she just loves that track

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She listens to like the beginnings of some

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when she's doing some gardening or housework or whatever

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I don't think she has the patience to listen to like two and a half hours of me

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No, of course not

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But I appreciate it all the same

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Shout out mom

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Oh well

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So do you have a question?

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That's wonderful

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I don't know, I don't know if I can recover from

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Uh, Dan

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That's a big revelation

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Dan

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Oh also, some listeners have suggested

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What's that?

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The possibility is that

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User submitted questions?

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And if they want to, they should probably tweet those at you

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at go to bed Jordan

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Yes

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And then you could stealthily throw them in and I would never know the difference

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Absolutely do that

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So that's another thing

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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He does not check or pay attention to me on Twitter

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So we can have a whole nice

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Check a little

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Uh, Dan, I have a question for you

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Okay

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Alright

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What's up

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Have you ever met a doppelganger of yourself?

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Ooh

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I, I, I mean there's the comedian Don Friesen who doesn't look like me at all

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Right

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But he is

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I have not met him

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Spiritually, yes

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I, I, I almost did

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You almost did?

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Almost

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Oh, you almost met Don Friesen, not you almost met a doppelganger

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No

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Like you saw one from afar and you were like, I'm just, I just can't get close to him

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I'm not sure I've ever met a doppelganger

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I have really squinty crossed eyes and a huge beard

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It's very, it's rare that I run into

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I don't know, I mean like when I was younger I was always, I always got the

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You look like Everlast

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I've never liked that

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A lot of people have said Will Ferrell too

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I don't like that at all

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Really?

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And I don't really get that either

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I don't see Will Ferrell at all

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I think it's completely inaccurate

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Yeah

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But I have heard it from a number of people

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Yeah

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I don't know, no I don't, I don't think I have

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I can see maybe a John C. Reilly in Kong

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Oh

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Have you ever seen that?

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Whenever he's got the big beard

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Hey, you know what?

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That's not a compliment

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What are you talking about?

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John C. Reilly's great

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Sure

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He looks good

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Yeah, he's hot

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We can't all be hot

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If I needed to look like somebody in the acting world

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I would prefer it be one of those character actor types

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Oh yeah, absolutely

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They're much, you know, they get a lot more work

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That's what I'm all about, I'm about that work

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Yeah you are, yeah, yeah

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This podcast where I know a lot about getting that character actor work

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And Alex Jones

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And I don't know anything about either, frankly

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That's true

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So Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over

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Sure

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We'll be checking in, like I said, on the end of the last episode

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We're staying in the present

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Staying in there

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And I intended to just keep on going

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Sunday, Monday

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But the times, they required me to jump forward

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To be much more present

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They were unchanging

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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So today we'll be going over August 21st and 22nd

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Which is Wednesday and Thursday this week

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And, oh boy, oh boy

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How we doing?

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I'm alright

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Okay, good, good

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You know why I'm alright?

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Why?

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Because I am now going to take the opportunity to give some shout-outs

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To some people who have signed up for the show before we get going

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Nicely done

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Today we've got a lot of wonks to go through

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Let's do it

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So we're forgoing technocrats for today

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Oh, that's nice

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To get through a big mass of wonks

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Good

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I'm very excited to say

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I'm sure they appreciate being called a mass

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Hey, it's a group

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Hey

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A gaggle

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Is that what we

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A murder of wonks

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I don't want that to happen

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So first, Aaron, thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Aaron

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Thanks, Aaron

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Next, Mark

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Thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Captain Mark

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You think it's Richard?

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I think it's him

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It could be

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Obviously

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Next, Peter

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Thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Peter Patrelli

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The main character from Heroes

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Next, Dan

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Thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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My doppelganger

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You got there first

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We found him

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Bastard

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Next, Gregory

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Thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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I agree

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You think it's Gregory Coppola

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The Google whistle blower from our last episode?

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I doubt it

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Probably not

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Next, Heather

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Thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you, Heather

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And next, secret agent CWKE

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Thank you so much

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You're an OWL policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you so much

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Thank you

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Secret agent

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Is that code for the CWKE?

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CW network?

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CWKE

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I don't know

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Cal L?

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It's probably some reference to something

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Superman on the CW network

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Thank you very much

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I will take my 500 points now

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I figured it was going to be some anime or something

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And you were going to be like

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Well, this is Bob-O-Doo-Doo

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Nope

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This is Final Fantasy 84

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Alright, alright

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I got that coming for the...

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Okay

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So finally, I'd like to say

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Shout out to somebody who

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Chris reached out and wanted to bestow

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A policy wonk status upon someone

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So, Kella, thank you so much

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On behalf of Chris, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you so much, Kella

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Thank you very much, Kella

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So, if you were left there listening

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And you're thinking

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Hey, I like this show

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I'd like to support what these guys do

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You can do that by going to our website

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Knowledgefight.com

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Click the button that says

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Support the show

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We would appreciate it

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It would be lovely

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So, Jordan, when I said that we needed

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To jump up to the more present

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Here's what I'm talking about

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Right

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So we record Wednesday's episode

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On Tuesday

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In order to be able to get things out

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Yes

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While we were recording

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Some things happened

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And after we got done

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There was news that Trump had made

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Some comments about how Jews

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Who vote for Democrats are disloyal

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Yeah, while we were recording

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Trump went Hitler

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Trump just did Hitler

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Trump Hitler

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He made some

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In the present tense

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He made some comments that were not good

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And then Rudy Giuliani came out

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And he clarified that Trump didn't mean

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That those Jews were disloyal

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To the United States

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But they were disloyal to Israel

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Which actually makes the comments

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A bit worse

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I'm confused as to how he thinks

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That that's a positive

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Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no

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Also making the matters worse

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Was when Trump clarified

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That that was exactly what he meant

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Saying, quote,

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If you vote for a Democrat

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You are very, very disloyal to Israel

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And to the Jewish people

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Yeah

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Not great

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The idea that Jews have an underlying

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Dual loyalty to Israel

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Is a classic trope of anti-Semitism

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And white supremacist propaganda

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In the United States

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And has been for decades

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And it's very much in line with the

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Worldview propagated by the protocols

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Of the elders of Zion

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This dual loyalty accusation

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Has been used to attack

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Any Jewish politicians

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And public figures

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Pretty much forever

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Yeah

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To create the perception

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That there's no way

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That a Jewish American

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Could possibly have America's

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Actual interests at heart

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Because they'll always secretly

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Be looking out for Israel

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Number one

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Of course

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It's a truly insane thing

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To hear the president

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And one of his close advisors

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And possibly still lawyer

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Say

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Very fucked up

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What is their relationship

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I don't know

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Is it just it's complicated now?

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What are we doing here?

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Yeah on Facebook it's complicated

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I lost track of the particulars of it

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And I don't really care that much

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Nope I hope they both

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Have a great time together

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So that was on Tuesday evening

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And then on Wednesday morning

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Trump tweeted a thank you

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To a very insane right wing radio host

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Named Wayne Allen Root

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Who had said of Trump

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Quote

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He's the best president for Israel

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In the history of the world

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And the Jewish people in Israel

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Love him like he's the king of Israel

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They love him like he's the second coming of God

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Yeah

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Yeah yeah

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Has anybody read that book?

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The one at the end of the big book

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That everybody loves so much

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That Bible one

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Have you ever read that last book?

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Boy they really sure sound

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It's like they're fucking with us

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It kind of

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It really is like they're fucking with us

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It does feel like a weird prank

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Yeah like we're

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Like I've been an atheist for

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Since I was 12 years old

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And they're like ha ha ha

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But what if we fuck with them

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And make them think that the antichrist is real

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And we're doing it

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It's very strange

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The dynamic that's at play

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If God's not going to fulfill these prophecies

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I'll fucking do it for him

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So Trump repeated those comments

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That Wayne Allen Root had made about himself

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Seemingly to give them his stamp of approval

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Which is pretty much what you'd expect

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From a malignant narcissist

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Who doesn't really care about what other people think or feel

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Or anything

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Anything really

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So then later on Wednesday

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Trump decided it was time to really swing for the fences

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In a press gaggle

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He was going off on a ramble

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About how he was standing up to China

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And then in the middle of his comments

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He looked at the sky

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And said quote

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I am the chosen one

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This is the sort of thing

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That you might be able to make an argument about it

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That he was just saying he was the chosen one

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To fight China or something

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You could not

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But the looking up at the sky part of it

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Plus the timing of this being right after he tweets

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Something about how people in Israel and Jews

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Look at him like he's the second coming of God

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It takes a very very fucked up dynamic into it

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Like it's

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It doesn't exist outside of the context of that tweet

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He sent in the morning

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Nope

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Or the comments he made the day before

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Uh uh

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I am the chosen one

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Looking into the heavens

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Is a profoundly fucked up thing

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No matter what the surrounding context is

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No of course not

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Unless you're doing it like

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Wouldn't it be fucking crazy if someone did this

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Yes yeah yeah

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No in his defense

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This is the one thing that he has said so far in this presidency

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That makes perfect sense to me

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Because who the fuck else could get away with all this shit

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Like at a certain point

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Wouldn't you have to start thinking

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Either I'm playing with fucking house money

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Or I am literally Harry Potter

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I guess so

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Like he has a main character shield around him

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He can't go to jail for committing all the crimes

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Nobody is assassinating him

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Even though we've assassinated nice guys

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Like nobody is doing anything to stop him

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The entire world is going his direction

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His buddy is lighting the Amazon on fire

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And everybody's having a great time

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When you say we've assassinated good guys

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You mean

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The human race

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Exactly

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The human race

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Not you and I particularly

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We have assassinated zero people between the two of us

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I agree it is strange

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I mean it's like the logical extension of what he was saying during the campaign

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Like I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue

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And no one would care

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And he could

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And you never really thought like

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What are the side pieces of that

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Like I could say I'm the chosen one

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I could say that Jews are being disloyal to Israel

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By having different political opinions than me

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Yup

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And it does not seem to matter

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Nope

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He can do anything

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Do you know why Dan?

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Because he is the chosen one

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That's the only explanation

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Well I'm going to stop short of that

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I'm going to not take a side on that question per se

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Okay

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But I am going to say that I knew that Alex was going to have some thoughts on these developments

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Yes

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I knew that there was going to be something of a response from Alex

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But I couldn't guess which way it was going to break

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If I had to bet money on it before

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When I first saw that news coming out

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I would have thought like

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Well we just did an episode about how Trump said he wanted to buy Greenland

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And that forced Alex to defend the idea of buying Greenland

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Right

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So I kind of figured that okay Trump is going to say this stuff

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Alex is now going to have to defend it

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He's going to have to say that he is Jesus 2.0

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Or I mean the possibility is Alex could have all of his religious feelings

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And be like we have gone too far

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Right

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Have a pardon the expression coming to Jesus moment

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Fair

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I didn't know which way it was going to go

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So I guess we'll find out on today's episode

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So we start on the 21st on Wednesday

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Okay

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And Alex has sent some of his crew to Hong Kong

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Which is very exciting

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He is going to have people reporting on the protests in Hong Kong

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Some folks have asked about what Alex's position on that is

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And he is

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Incoherent?

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Somewhat

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He is in support of the protesters

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Good

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But there's a strange dynamic that's going on

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That it's mostly because he hates China

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There we go

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Which I guess if that's how you get there that's how you get there

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Yeah

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But he also has this mentality of like

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The West is now the East

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And like Hong Kong is just us

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See there we go

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It's a very strange not grappling with the situation

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Outside of just China bad Hong Kong protesters must be good

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He kind of thinks that everybody living in Hong Kong is white

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And everybody in China is Chinese

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There's a feeling of that just based on the way he describes folks

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But I don't think that he actually thinks that

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Yeah but there's an element of like

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Well Hong Kong is the West and we know what the West is

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They're on the West side

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Yeah okay

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And so he has a support of them but it's on a very elementary level

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Yeah

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But he sent these reporters out there and so he

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In this first clip he talks about how he's gonna cover the spectrum of oppression

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Sure

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He's got the people in Hong Kong

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Sure

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And then another example

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Okay

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We've got three of our intrepid reporters

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Gregory, Savannah, Hernandez and others on the ground

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Right now in Hong Kong

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First of all I love that he names two

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He has three reporters there

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Yup

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He names two of them and then says and others

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Yup

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You 100% forgot your third reporter's name

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Really really glad I'm not others in this one

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Because it's not plural

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Nope

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It's one another person

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Nope there's only three

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Where hundreds of thousands of Chinese troops are threatening to invade

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They're gonna be on with us coming up in about 15 minutes

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Then Carpe Donctum one of the top memers on the planet

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This is Trump at the White House

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He launches MemeWorld.com

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Starts getting banned on Facebook and other platforms within hours

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All part of election meddling

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So we got Carpe Donctum having some trouble with memes

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Sure

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Sure

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Okay

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We'll get to that a little bit later

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We got Tiananmen Square in 2019

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And we've got Carpe Donctum not being allowed to post dank memes

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Yup

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Gotcha

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Two equivalent situations

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Yup

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Gotcha

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Understood

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In Alex's presentation these are on par with each other

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Yes

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Yeah yeah naturally

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So Alex starts talking and he gets to discussing who the day's guests are

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And he has a name in there that might not immediately jump out to you

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But this is a person who it is very fucked up that Alex is having on his show

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And then we also have another guest joining us from the UK

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And that's Jada Franzen one of the main leaders resisting the globalist

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Very well spoken lovely lady

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She'll be joining us coming up for part of the fourth hour as well that I will be hosting

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Very exciting

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Alex couldn't find someone to fill in for him for the last hour

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Sticking around for the fourth hour

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Very exciting

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So it makes some sense if the name Jada Franzen doesn't ring a bell to you or some of our non-UK listeners

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Her name probably isn't too well known here in the US

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But something that she did might be something that folks remember

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If you recall back in 2017 Trump retweeted some little videos

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Preporting to show immigrant violence in Europe

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With the explicit purpose of generating and reinforcing xenophobic fears about refugees and foreigners

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Trump was widely and rightly criticized for promoting this message

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Seeing as it traced back to the ultra right wing, some might say fascist group, Britain First

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And at least one of these videos was found to be completely fake

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Jada Franzen is a member of Britain First and it was her tweets that Trump had retweeted

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Gotcha

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I was really hoping she was the lady who had tried to restore that Jesus painting and it came out all weird

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Remember that one?

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Vaguely

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That would have been great

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That was not her doing

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Although she might have been behind the scenes on that

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So Franzen was the deputy leader of Britain First

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And in her time in that position she explicitly called for Islam to be banned in the UK

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That's one of her big things

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Of course

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She took over as leader of Britain First when their erstwhile leader Paul Golding

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Was sentenced to 8 weeks in prison for religious harassment

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After he violated a court order banning him from entering mosques

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Given his past history of going to mosques for the specific purpose of religious harassment

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Right

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He went to jail and when he did Franzen took over and pretended that Golding was just taking a leave of absence to deal with family issues

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These guys are great

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I'm loving these people

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A lot of cover ups

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Yeah

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Incidentally, in 2017 Golding was accused of sexual assault by an underage girl

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The alleged attack took place at a hotel they went to after the girl had attended one of his Britain First rallies

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Which was centered around decrying the plague of Muslim child sex abuse

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Ha

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Interesting

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Ha

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Hmm

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Hmm

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To make matters worse a former member of Britain First named Graham Moore has come forward

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And attested that Jada Franzen had explicitly tried to coerce this underage girl into not telling anyone what Golding had done

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Morris was in the room and said quote

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Jada was saying I can give everything you need, a platform, I'll do this for you, that for you

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She was offering her all sorts

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I'm thinking this is sick

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He went on to say that Franzen said that the girl needed to quote

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Come back to the bar and let everyone see you with Paul so it looks like a misunderstanding

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So if you're keeping score it looks like Franzen was the deputy of an organization trying to demonize Muslims as child abusers

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Who tried to cover up an instance where their leader may or may not have abused a child after a rally they held to demonize Muslims around the issue of child abuse

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I really

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So she sounds like a normal Alex Jones guest to me

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I really just don't think these people care as much about the thing that they're yelling about

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No

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I think they're just, I think they're just making some bullshit up in order to sell a whole different agenda

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Ah maybe

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I think so Dan, I really think so, I'm starting to crack this case wide open

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It's too bad we don't have a ton of evidence of that

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Yeah I know

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Anyway, Franzen was formerly a member of Tommy Robinson's English Defense League and has made a career specifically out of targeting, harassing and agitating against Muslims

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In March 2018 she was sentenced to 38 weeks in prison for religious harassment

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This was the result of her and Golding going to a Muslim business where they quote

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Banged on the windows and doors and screamed pedophile and foreigner

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According to the Guardian, quote, two children were playing in the middle of the shop

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Legitimately they're just terrorizing children

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The other accounts she was found guilty of were about this troubling habit that Britain first has

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Of showing up at the wrong person's house to harass them

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She showed up at this place, she got the wrong address

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She thought it was the address of a defendant in a sex abuse trial

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But she didn't know it was the wrong address so she just targeted some unrelated person

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And they published a video of her showing up at this person's house which released their address online

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She also showed up at the correct address of another defendant, but that guy wasn't home

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And that didn't stop Jada from yelling and banging on the door anyway

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The defendant's pregnant girlfriend was home, as were her 3 year old and 18 month old children

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The woman testified that Franzen, quote, was making racist remarks

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Dirty Muslim rapist, come out, we're not going to leave until you're gone, come out, dirty scumbags

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It was directed at Tamin because she thought he was in there, but he wasn't

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It made me feel very anxious, I didn't go outside for a long time

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I was also pregnant at the time it happened

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Two days after I started to bleed heavily and lost my daughter

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Jesus fucking Christ

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She was stillborn, I blame Jada Franzen

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She also testified that the event has traumatized her child who still gets scared when anyone knocks on their door

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In May 2019, Franzen was arrested again after she gave a speech in Belfast

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That was determined to be a, quote, general vehement attack against a religious group

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In her speech she yelled about how there is no such thing as moderate Islam

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And they, quote, these people are baying for our blood

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She told rally attendees that it was time for the world to unite against, quote, the one common enemy

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Essentially advocating for an extermination campaign against Muslims

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I thought it was just her

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I'm pretty sure she is our one common enemy

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She's a bad, bad person

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I would tell her to go to hell, but I worry that Satan's first words to her would be, you're hired

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She has got a fucking resume, Christ

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So in court she had no remorse for the possible consequences of her words

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Surprise

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She is a cold-blooded white supremacist and Islamophobe

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Alex Jones giving her a platform is a very strong indication of the type of show he wants to be running

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Yeah

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So that's not a great announcement

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Cool

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To have

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Cool, cool, cool

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That made me feel like maybe he's not going to talk about Trump's bullshit

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You know, like maybe, what if he doesn't?

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What if he just goes the entire show and doesn't mention, because this is Wednesday's show

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Yeah, I know, but it really makes the most sense for him to do that

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I feel like that's exactly what he would do

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It is a little on brand

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That's what I would do

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Yeah

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I'd be like, uh

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Punt

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I have zero narratives that include you calling yourself the chosen one, so guess what today

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is?

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Today is day off day

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To be fair, the chosen one thing probably happened while Alex was on air

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Yeah

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He has no reason to know about that while he's on air

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Right, right, right

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The other stuff, however

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Yeah, yeah

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The tweet and the calling Jews disloyal

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Right

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Has happened before this episode

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King of Israel, of course

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Sure

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So Alex has got his people out in Hong Kong

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Yeah

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And he's going to do a live interview with them, and he is fucking so excited about this

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And I would say that this is a demonstration of him being very rude

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She's there in Hong Kong, other side of the world by the miracle of the internet

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She talks to us now

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Give us your take on what you've seen so far and what it's like to be somewhere that's already a war zone

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Hi Alex, thanks for having me on

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So we've seen a lot of activity since we got here just this morning

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Of course, as soon as we got here, our cab driver and locals on the streets

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They noticed that we're American media, and they're really, really interested

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Okay, well, hey Savannah, like I said, the miracle of the other side of the world

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We'll talk to you guys later today

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Having a technical problem there

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That's insane

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I mean, I know that audio quality isn't good, but you can hear what she's saying

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There's literally no reason for it to be that rude

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That's crazy

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You sent her to Hong Kong and they're like, ah, the audio's too low, fuck it

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That's so funny, that is so funny

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Within like 20 seconds of talking to her, just fuck this

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How much money did you spend to send them all to Hong Kong and then just be like

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Oh god, they're a little bit soft

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Get them out of here, they're fired

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Fuck it, we'll get special reports out of it

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They can film some stuff there and we'll put it out

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This interview that I'm so excited about, live interview from around the world

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You know what's crazy, I feel like she was doing a pretty good job

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She was doing alright, she was doing okay

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And like I said, bad audio quality, audible

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You could hear what she's saying, you could conduct that interview

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It'd be totally fine

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Have your producer adjust some levels, fucking move on

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You pretend he has a competent producer

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Fair enough

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So instead of talking to the Hong Kong people, he decides to jump to the other topic of oppression

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Which of course is Count Dankula

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Really don't like that we live in 2019

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Wait, I keep, I keep

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No, Carpe Donkdom

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Yeah, Carpe Donkdom

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They're the same fucking guy

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His fucking name

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So yeah, he jumps to Carpe Donkdom and his meme world

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In a moment we're going to go to Carpe Donkdom, one of the top meme makers in the world

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Just recently having long meetings with President Trump at the White House

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When Trump warned Big Tech to stop censoring

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Well, he's launched MemeWorld.com because on Facebook and Twitter and on Instagram

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Hundreds of millions of accounts, yes, of meme sites and meme followers have been purged

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So that we can't communicate with this new modern form of communication

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Beyond the MLG, it is the meme, it is art

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And so he went up on Facebook with MemeWorld.com

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And within two hours, they had banned it

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So we got an interesting situation on our hands

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First of all, I love, I love just the obsession with memes

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It's not something that's going to look ridiculous in like ten years

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Looking back on this

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It looks ridiculous now

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It does to me

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It would have looked ridiculous five years ago

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When it already started looking ridiculous when people were doing memes ten years ago

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Yeah, and we've already gone over in a past episode this, this bullshit narrative

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About like tons of millions of people being purged

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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And how that's a great misrepresentation

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I went and checked in and like Carpe Doncum's got his fan page completely active on Facebook

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It has like 30,000 followers

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It posts stuff

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I don't see any indication that he's been kicked off

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But there's this idea that his MemeWorld site is somehow banned on Facebook

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And that's kind of interesting

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Because it's not?

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Well, I'm not sure that it is

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I went to Infowars and I checked their version of the story about it

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And there were some screenshots of like links not being allowed

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To be posted

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And I started to think about like

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Now why would that be the case?

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What is the issue with it?

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And I think I solved the problem

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When Alex plays the trailer

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For Carpe Doncum's website

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Which is what all of these links went to

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Here's the latest Carpe Doncum trailer from MemeWorld.com

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I'm not gonna play the whole thing

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We can play it at the start

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But here's just the flavor of it

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It's very well done

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I just came outside to try to process all this

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I want you to create the best memes the world has ever seen

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Now if I were Facebook and I had a quality control

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I would probably ban this link

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Just for like this looks fucking stupid

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But that's not the issue

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With your help, we are going to make America great again

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How much is he gonna play?

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Quite a bit

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Really?

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Well, it must be conservatives that are being banned, that's sure

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And the best part is when Hillary and all the other Democrat candidates

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For president, the female ones, are cheerleaders

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More of that coming up in a moment

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It's good for radio, but you really need to see it

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So Alex cuts it off even before the part ends

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Like this is a clear copyright violation

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Oh yeah, absolutely

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He's using way too much of Gangnam Style

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Yeah

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This is not something you're allowed to do

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No, you absolutely cannot do that

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So did he play the original episode of Mickey Mouse while he was doing this too?

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What is going on?

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So it's important to point out that the links that were blocked

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And the screenshots that Alex is promoting

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As proof of Carpe Donctum censorship

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Are all people trying to post that trailer

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And it includes a very long section of Gangnam Style

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Which is a copyrighted piece of work

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I have no idea whether or not this is the reasoning

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That Facebook used for this trailer

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You know, it's an unsanctioned use of copyrighted material

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The fact that it's a clear theft of intellectual property

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But if that is the reasoning for why this link is blocked

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Then there's every reason not to allow it

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Like that makes total sense

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Yeah, no, absolutely

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I have no idea

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And honestly, if Facebook enforced their actual guidelines

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Then Carpe Donctum shouldn't be allowed to use their platform

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Thanks to their authenticity rule

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That requires people to have accounts under the name they use in real life

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My larger feeling is indifference, though

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I went to Memeworld and man, that place sucks

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It's just a basic-ass WordPress template

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With a scroll of anti-left memes being posted

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I looked through them and there seems to be almost no engagement

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The vast majority of things posted there have zero comments

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Barely anything has over a hundred likes

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All it takes to like something on there is just press the like button

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And his site announcement itself only has 136 likes

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Alright, so the problem that I'm seeing is

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His web page is being suppressed by Google and Facebook and Gab

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They're all in this together to make sure that Count Dankula

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Er, no

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Carpe Donctum

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They're all so fucking stupid, Dan

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My point here is that Carpe Donctum is super lucky that Facebook blocked one of his links

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Otherwise, the only thing he'd have to go on Alex's show to talk about

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Is his GeoCities-ass meme page that's getting D-plus traffic

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And that's the last I'm going to say about Carpe Donctum

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This representative of future internet communication

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Whose innovation seems to be basically a shitty Tumblr page

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Yeah, yeah

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Congratulations

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I think he's got us

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The right is too good at humor for us to survive, Dan

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Yeah

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So when I heard that very clear

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Copyright violation

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Way too long use of Gangnam Style

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Really ridiculously long

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I kind of suspect that it might be intentional

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Like, I think that they're

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I don't know this to be the case

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You think he was trying to get copyright violated

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So he would at least have some evidence that somebody was blocking him from doing it

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I think it's a possibility

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Yeah

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This grift runs so strongly and is fueled by censorship

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Right

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And oppression and the

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The appearance of which

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The agreement of the right is so essential to it

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So if you're going to do something like announce your website

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It makes sense to do something that is illegal in it

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Yes

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That you just ignore the fact that it is against copyright laws

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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So then you guarantee that it's going to be taken down

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And then you'd be like

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They can't even handle the fact that

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You know, I just

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I get the sense that that's possible

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I'm not saying that it is

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Because that would be a wild assumption for me to make

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When it could just be that he's stupid

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Which is Occam's Razor

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You know, top of the list

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Certainly

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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And while there's evidence that he's actually intentionally doing that

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I will consider it a hunch

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Yes

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When stupidity completely satisfies

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Right

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As an explanation

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Right

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But I kind of thought like

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That's probably what happened here

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Right

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And then when Carpe Donctum starts talking

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He kind of makes it clear that that is exactly what's happening

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I'm going to alert you to something new

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Is I can't share the Meme World link on Twitter either

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Unless I remove the little preview

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It won't let me share a link to Meme World

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You can only share just the MemeWorld.com

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But if you try to have it have the preview

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Which a lot of people use to click on

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It won't let you share it

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It'll just send it to your drafts

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And won't let you send the message

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That's on Twitter now

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So that's clear

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He is too stupid

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That's clear

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You can share the link

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You can't share it with the copyright infringing content

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Right

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This is ridiculous

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Yeah

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This is a non-issue

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This is non-censorship

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If you can share the link to your website

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Then your website is not getting blocked

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Right

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One thing is

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And it is a clear violation of size copyright

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Right

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Well just because Facebook and Google and Twitter aren't censoring you

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Doesn't mean you shouldn't tell people that they're censoring you, Dan

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That's crazy

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Yep

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I think we're going to get kicked off before they do

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Yeah

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Probably

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God

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So Alex has another agreement narrative about tech censorship gone awry

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Sure

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And everything being so terrible for Trump

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And it's

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What do you know

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A load of bullshit

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Exactly

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I mean they're at war with reality

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I mentioned this and it's here in my stats

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Put it back on screen

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Did you see where they just banned the Republican National Committee's ad

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Because it said we're looking for strong women

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And they said well someone that got that might not be a woman

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And hearing the word woman might trigger them

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This is a war on language by design

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So Karpeh Doktim isn't aware of this story

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So he accepts Alex's interpretation of it

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And then is like yeah they are totally out of control

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They're trying to take over language

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Yes and

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Exactly

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The scam doesn't run on critical questioning

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Wait, Alex, hold on one second

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Could you please explain further

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What's the fucking actual issue you're talking about

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Because of course the assumption that like

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We're looking for strong women

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This must be some sort of a thing with like

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These trans people are so offended by the word woman

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Yeah yeah

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Purple penguins blah blah blah

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Exactly

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That's the narrative that Alex runs with with this

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So the problem actually is that the Trump ad

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The problem that it had and the reason that it was disallowed

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Was that it presumed a person's gender in the ad itself

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Which is against Facebook's ad policies

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Quite literally if you look at Facebook's advertising rules

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The first thing you'll find is a link to the rules about personal attributes

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Quote

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Ads must not contain content that assert or imply personal attributes

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This includes direct or indirect assertions or implications about a person's race

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Ethnic origin, religion, beliefs, age, sexual orientation or practices

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Gender identity, disability, medical condition including physical and mental health

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Financial status, membership in a trade union, criminal record or name

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So what they do is they allow

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We're looking for Christians

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But they don't allow are you a Christian

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They don't do that

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That is disallowed

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Okay so you can't be like

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Are you an Indian with a broken leg who is dabbling in Buddhism

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Then you should be voting for Trump

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Right

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They don't allow that sort of

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Even though you can target people based on who should see this ad

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You still can't in the body of the ad presume someone's

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Any characteristic about them

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That's deemed against their policies

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Gotcha

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This is a really basic thing about the rules

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And if Trump and his team or whoever posted this stupid ad

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Had spent even a second figuring out what they're doing

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And whether it was allowed or not

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They wouldn't have been able to post the ad and wouldn't have done it in the first place

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And this is where we get back to those theories that I was kicking around

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Yeah

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This shit just seems like right wing fuckheads creating their own victimhood to complain about

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Carpe Cadogta like I said he uses gangnam style in the trailer for his dumb meme page

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Probably knowing that it wasn't covered by fair use

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His link isn't allowed and boom you got a free speech grift cooking

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These people who made this Trump ad had every reason to know that you can't post an ad on Facebook

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That presumes a person's gender

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But they do it anyway when it gets taken down for breaking the rules

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Boom you got a culture war grift cooking

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Right

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This shit is really sad

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These dumb dumb fascists are so desperate to paint themselves as victims

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They have to paint instances where they're being

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They're not being allowed to break the rules as some kind of an oppression

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This is the only way that they can get attention

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It's the only way they can pretend they're relevant

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And it's honestly getting exhausting

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It was exhausting years ago

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The problem is that it's working

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And it never seems to stop working

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And it seems like if you're stupid and a cheater

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Then you are of course being oppressed by any rules because

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Stupid cheaters are bad

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If you expect to be able to cheat and nothing applies to you

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Then yes rules are oppression

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Rules are oppression

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That might actually be

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That is exactly what these people believe

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That might be it

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You might have accidentally stumbled into the explanation

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It's like they get pulled over and they're like

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

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Did you guys not know?

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I can drive 90 miles an hour in the school zone

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I'm white

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I'm allowed to travel

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Come on

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It's in the

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Subscribe to maritime law

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Yeah Jesus

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So in this next clip

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Carpe Donctum is talking about the rules for people posting stuff on Meme World

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And would you know he has some censorship cooking

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Right now there is discussion

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You can talk in the comments and things like that

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But it's not open for just anyone to post

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Why?

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And that's for obvious reasons

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Because they're going to send in Southern Garvey Law Center people

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Posing as us saying Hall Hitler

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I'm going to try to avoid having just random trolls posting Hitler

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And you know Nazi salutes and all that kind of stuff

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Well you know what it'll be

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They'll have an Antifa guy

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You know

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Go in there and say something before he goes and shoots up a school

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I mean we know all their tricks

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Those are not their tricks

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That's what you guys do

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I mean it's a really good protective technique

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Oh yeah

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To say something like this

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Oh so good

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It's very awesome to always paint

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Like anything that is an indication that people on your side of things

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Right

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Seem to be causing a lot of violence

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Right

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It's good to just preemptively and universally be like

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Oh those are actually just Antifa people

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Do we have any Antifa people posting Hall Hitler in our website?

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I haven't seen any

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You haven't seen any

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Do we have any like

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We don't even have any regular people posting Hall Hitler

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And so it seems like there are far fewer Antifa people who are fake posting Hall Hitler

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But there are a bunch of people who are regular people who would post Hall Hitler

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I mean it's just

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Because they love Hitler

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But of course

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And you guys are Hitler

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This is a tacit understanding and a recognition on Hall Hitler

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Yeah

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A lot of our fans fucking love Hitler

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Yeah

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And we need to come up with a way to explain that that isn't

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Huh

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A lot of our fans love Hitler

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It's really

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It's sad

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It's really bumming me out that the media middleman

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Seem to be the only people who are trying to keep the right from being fans

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Outright Nazis

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Like Trump is just literally going full Hitler

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Just like I'm saying Hitler words, I am a Nazi

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He might as well say Hitler words

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I am a Nazi

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He might as well stand up in front of everyone and go I am a Nazi

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Everybody who votes for him is like

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Yeah we love Nazis

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And the media is trying to come up with any and all possible excuses for why he's not a Nazi

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Just weird convoluted explanations

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They're the only ones who are getting in the way

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We all know he's a Nazi

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We all know they're Nazis

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Let's just move on

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Perhaps

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So Alex has some weird fucking ads on this show

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He has one where he says like if you guys just pay me a bunch of money and buy a bunch of stuff

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I will do less ads

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I like that

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I like that

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It's almost like a recognition on his part like I do too much

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I do too much plugging

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That is Stockholm syndrome is what that is

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I do too much plugging and I'm recognizing that it's probably annoying the shit out of my listeners

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So I'll tell you what

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Give me a bunch of money and I'll stop

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I have been punching you over and over and over again

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And if you just give me a bunch of money I will punch you slightly fewer times

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It's very weird but I respect it

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And then he has another one that's not really an ad but of course it's like an ad for Infowars itself

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Where he's rambling about how great farmers are

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Sure

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And

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Sure fine

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It includes this that I just think is really funny

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Americans aren't going to be bullied and we aren't going to back down

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So to the Joaquin Cruises and the Hillary Clintons of the world that want to intimidate people

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And tell us to back down

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We're never going to give up

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And all you've done is awaken the human spirit

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That's Joaquin Castro

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Not Cruz

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Did he say Joaquin Cruises?

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He did

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I really thought he said Joaquin Cruises

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Yeah

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I was like

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Is that a different type of cruise than I'm going to wear?

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You go on a boat and there's a track on it

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Yeah yeah

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A walking cruise

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For pedestrianism

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Yeah yeah yeah

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That's funny

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I mean you can't even be bothered to care about the things he pretends to care about

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No

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This is ludicrous

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Let's go to Hong Kong

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How are we doing out there?

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You know the thing too is like this is a pre-recorded thing

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Does he even go back?

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No that's a pre-recorded thing

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Oh no

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He could have done a second take

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He could have done a second take

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Anybody who is like in the control room or his cameraman could have been like

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Hey Alex you got that name wrong

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Look it'll take us 10 seconds

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We can edit it in

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Let's just do another take

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We can even do it from another angle so it doesn't look like you fucked up

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Yeah

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Come on man let's do this

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Let's be professionals

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Joaquin Cruz isn't a person that you hate

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It's Joaquin Castro

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Even drunk George Orwell did a second take for god's sake

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It's pathetic

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It's a pathetic level of professionalism

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So Alex really wants to make sure that no one thinks that the Trump ad targeting strong women

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Is an issue with Facebook's ad policies that everyone is subject to

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Of course

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He wants to make it seem like it's a gender issue

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Sure

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He's very desperate about that and so here is a clip of him doing that

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The magnitude now of in 1999 you'd never imagine this

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Even in a science fiction book about a dystopia

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You'd say oh they'll never have a dystopia where you can't send out an email

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Or a text message or something saying strong women

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Cause someone might have seen it

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Someone might have been hurt

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This is such next level and we're just here taking it

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Like it's oh that's just the next level

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And that's how tyranny works

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They incrementally get you to take more and more and more of the poison

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Until you just finally have just succumbed to the insanity

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So there's a total method of this madness

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What do you say Carpe Donkdom?

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I just love any clip that ends like that

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How say you Carpe Donkdom?

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What do you say Carpe Donkdom?

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No, no, no

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I'm gonna say a bunch of misleading and stupid bullshit

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And then I'm gonna throw it to the meme wizard

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That's unreal

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That's unreal

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A guy who has no real qualifications except he edits tiny pieces of media

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We can't live in a world where

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That's like two years away from being on CNN

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That's two years away from somebody going

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And what do you think Carpe Donkdom?

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We might be too far down the road to avoid that honestly

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Stop it

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We'll see

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Can we shorten it to Carpe or Donkdom?

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Donk

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You wanna go with Donk?

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Sure

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I will go with Donk for sure

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So at the beginning of this episode

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I mentioned that Alex announced that Jada Franzen was gonna be on

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Yes, Jada Franzen Smith

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We all know her, she was great

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It turns out that she doesn't show up

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Oh no

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She gets bumped

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Which is the good news

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That is good news

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This is the good news of this next clip

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Although it does come with some bad news

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Zachary Voorhees is live in studio

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With Alex Jones to take your questions

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And I'm gonna do this with the next guest

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I really wanted Jada Franzen on for a month

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We couldn't get her

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But now she's able to come on

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But this is so important

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We're gonna clear the decks

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And we apologize to her at jadafranzen.online

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And we're just gonna move that on

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Cause we're getting started a little bit later today

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But when we come back

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We're launching straight into this

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And this whistleblower that came here

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His colleagues are calling him the Ed Snowden Big Tech Whistleblowers

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This is huge

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Can you imagine Edward Snowden going to Project Veritas?

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Seems weird

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So Zach Voorhees, again the quote unquote Google Whistleblower

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Who believes there's a Zionist occupational government

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Right

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And also has said that the Jews were on the media

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And all that shit

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He is back

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Do you think Alex asks him about that?

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Oh god

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Cause he doesn't

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No, what is he, ugh

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Seems to just leave that part aside

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I would like to have a clear hierarchy

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Hey Zach, hey Zach

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What about that Zog?

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That does not happen

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No, okay

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I want a clear hierarchy of who bumps who

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You know what I'm saying?

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With Infowars guests

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I want a clear like

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Oh Leo called so he bumps this person

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He bumps that

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Like we're talking

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Well clearly already

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90's Conan

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You get bumps from the, yeah

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Already Zach's been responsible for Leo getting bumped

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On the last episode

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And now Jada

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Jada

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Jada

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So he's fucking

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Alright, okay

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He is the cat's meow

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Right right right

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Where's the guy who smashes things with his little hammer

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Alex would drop Voorhees for that in a second

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Hit the piggyback

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Hit the piggyback

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Hit it

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I'll hit something here

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So Alex and Voorhees, they, we talked about him on the last episode

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So when I heard he was on, he was gonna be on for the rest of the show

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Yeah

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I don't want to do this

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No

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I don't want to go back into this

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But I also decided that like they have a long time on this show

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They better get into actual evidence of his claims

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No absolutely not

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Because if they have two hours

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Yeah

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Completely renegade free program

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Then obviously you would present your evidence

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And so I decided I would try and isolate any instances

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Right

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Of actual evidence

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Right

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That I'm presenting

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I'm gonna go with freewheeling chat about God maybe

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Alex tries to get into that a little bit

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But it's not really the predominant thing

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Okay

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It's bullshit

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Wait so this really go on for another couple hours?

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It goes on the whole rest of the show

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That can't be true

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It does

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Jesus Christ

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And Alex does host the fourth hour

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And I'll tell you this, he does not seem to like Zach Voorhees as a person

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I think he finds him a little annoying

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I think he triggers that like sort of nerd rage

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And Alex like his bully comes out a little

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Because there's a couple points where you can just tell he's like

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Ugh fuck this guy

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Fuck

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So

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Nerd

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So Alex and Zach discuss an interview

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This is one of their pieces of evidence

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The first thing they bring up

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They bring up an interview that Eric Schmidt did with Charlie Rose

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Which is definitely not something we need a whistle blower for

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No

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In the interview Schmidt says that the fact that you get a ton of answers

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From a search on Google is a bug in their system

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If the search function was perfect you'd always get the right answer

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For what you're looking for every time

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He's clearly talking about factual information

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Like who was president during the Louisiana Purchase

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But Alex and Voorhees seem to think that what Schmidt is talking about

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Applies to literally everything

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Right

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And that's probably not a fair assessment of what he was saying

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Are you sure it's not because Alex and Zach are both geniuses

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Who can read between the lines Dan?

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It's possible

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Okay

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So that's the first thing that they bring up

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And I find that to be an incredibly weak piece of evidence

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Oh yeah

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Especially for a guy like you're the whistle blower

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Yeah

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You don't need to go to Charlie Rose interviews

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No no no you point to readily available public information

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That's how people blow whistles Dan

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It was on TV bro

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Yeah

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I know Charlie Rose doesn't have the viewership that maybe

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You know the talk shows of yore

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Or as many visitors as the donk

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Certainly not

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Yeah yeah yeah

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How do you

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So if Snowden just pointed to a clip of Maddow

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Oh my god

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If Snowden pointed to a clip of Maddow we would have murdered him by now

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That would be amazing

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The entire country would have just descended upon him like rocks from a mountain

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Right Edward Snowden finally has the chance to talk and he's like

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Have you seen this fucking Chris Hayes interview?

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Gotta go

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Oh man I know you guys think Larry King has been off the air for a while now

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But I've got some underground Larry King footage to show you

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Yeah so that was the first piece of evidence

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And we'll get into a little bit more

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But the issue that I ran into very quickly

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Is that things that we know that Zach has put into the world

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And believes

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Take some of the things he's saying

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That might just be like this is a stupid Alex Jones interview

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Yeah

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And take them into a very very dark territory

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And this first one involves Soros

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I mean they call us Nazis all day

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They are literally funded

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Their main funder is a Nazi collaborator

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Yeah

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You can't make this up

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Yeah George Soros

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You know and there's videos of him

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I've seen two videos now where he's talking about

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The exhilaration that he had

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Sending Jews off to concentration camps

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And what's really ironic is that

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If we criticize George Soros

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Then they call us anti-Semites

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And it's like we're not criticizing him

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Because you know he is

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We're criticizing him because he's a damn Nazi collaborator

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Yeah exactly you know

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But see it's that death of logic

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The reason Alex laughed there

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Is because he knows that he's talking shit

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Yeah of course

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He's admitted as much on his second Rogan appearance

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That the idea of you know Soros being involved with the Nazis

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Is not an answered question

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No

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He's talking shit

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It's ridiculous

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This is not okay to hear from

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First of all Alex period

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But then a guy who believes in a fucking Zog

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This isn't okay

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This is like

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And what he's saying isn't true

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It's not real

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No not even

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These videos of Soros talking about taking away Jews

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Isn't something that exists

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Right

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That's a fake thing that they're talking about

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And they're demonizing George Soros in this way

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Because of those other beliefs that they have

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Right right the whole he's Jewish thing

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Right

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The whole Jews control the world

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Mythology and ideology

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That Zach Voorhees very clearly subscribes to

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Alex Jones is allowing essentially

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A complete anti-Semitic

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Pageant to happen on his show

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Under the guise of this guy having Google documents

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That prove X, Y, or Z

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Right

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And they don't

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It's another example where their cheating

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Makes me want my head to explode as soon as possible

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Because here's the thing that they're claiming

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They're claiming that while they're making anti-Semitic attacks

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Right

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Under the guise of bullshit

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And we call them out as being anti-Semites

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We're trying to suppress their speech

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And we're the ones who are actually anti-Semitic

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Because we all work for George Soros

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Who is the Nazi

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Which is an anti-Semitic smear

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Right

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But if somebody like say me

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Were to criticize Israel's apartheid policies

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And their destruction of

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Oh you're disloyal

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People

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Then that's because I'm anti-Semitic

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Not because apartheid's bad

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Sure

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Yeah

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So one of those is true

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But somehow both of them are driving me insane

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Yep

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They're not great

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And we'll get back to that thought

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Yeah

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Great

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Oh boy here we go

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A little bit later

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But first we have to have another gigantic red flag

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Be thrown onto the field

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By one Zach Voorhees

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And then Alex

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Just fucking runs with it

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He loves it

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How do we fight back?

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Yeah

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So

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And in gut level

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What do you think their Achilles heels are?

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So

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I actually want to recommend a book

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Called

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SJWs Always Lie

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By Vox Day

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Yeah

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Oh no

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That's the only book that I would recommend

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That someone would read

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If they're going to read

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I don't mean to plug it

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But we do sell it at Infomerastore.com

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That's one of the few books I've read the last year

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I've been so busy

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Yeah

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They always lie

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Oh boy

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Looks like Alex is

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An insatiable reading habit has dropped off

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So Vox Day is an explicit white supremacist

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Yeah

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He supports the terrorist acts committed by Anders Breivik

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And refers to him as Saint Breivik

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He's a race IQ guy

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He's literally called homosexuality a birth defect

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And argued that the acceptance of LGBTQ rights

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Is a symptom of a civilization in collapse

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He wrote on his blog

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Quote

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For most Americans, the issue isn't whether Jews have divided loyalties or not

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It's whether they have any loyalty to the United States at all

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So

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I'm sure he loves Trump's comments

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Yeah, he's doing great

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He's advocated for horrendous war crimes against Palestinians

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Saying

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Quote

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The Israeli government must announce to the world a unilateral ceasefire

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Balanced by the deadly promise that for every Israeli soldier killed

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25 Palestinian police will die

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For every civilian, a hundred non-combatant Palestinian adults will be slain

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And for every child, a thousand adults

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This shit was posted on WorldNetDaily

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WorldNetDaily's editors read that and said

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Yeah, this looks good, let's go ahead and post that

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Yeah, I think they might actually be Nazis

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I think we're there

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That was back in 2002 by the way

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I think we're there

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That was 2002 Vox Day wrote that

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Yeah

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He's been a shithead for a long time

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A portent of popular things to come

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Vox Day is a complete monster

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His books, SJWs Always Lie, is shit

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I don't need to read it to tell you that at all

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If Vox Day wrote it and Milo Yiannopoulos wrote the foreword for it

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Which he did

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I can tell you sight unseen that it's a load of worthless drivel

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But it's exactly the sort of book you'd probably expect to hear being promoted by a guy who believes the US is under a Zionist occupied government

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Alex's show has become completely inundated

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I turn on an episode these days and the guests are either white supremacist fascism advocates or Alex's lawyers

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The show's a complete disaster and if the diminishing sound quality is any indication, it's running on borrowed time

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I think it feels like the wheels have completely fallen off the wagon

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Well, so as goes Infowars, so goes America is what they say

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That's right, that's Thomas Jefferson

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As Infowars falls off the map, America goes to right next to it

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So we got, you know, anti-Semitic conspiracies about Soros and promotions of Vox Day's book being put forth by this guy who believes in a Zog on Alex's show

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Which is a relevant piece of information about both of those things

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They shade what he's talking about

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Right, now what you're forgetting though, Dan, is that you and I are anti-Semites

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There you go, see, now he's fine

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The guy who's like all about, oh, let's exterminate people, you know, that guy

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He's good, it's you and I who are bad

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So in this next clip, Zach uses some code language that should be, it's a little familiar to us

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The n-word?

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No, that's not code

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He's speaking to people, he's signaling to people

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I've been at Google for eight years and then the last three, that's when everything was turning into clown world

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And so I decided that, you know, understanding how the Marxist left works

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I realized that they don't even understand that what they're doing is appalling and reprehensible

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And as a result, they just left all of their documents about what they were going to do

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All their plans available on the internal public internet

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So I found all this, they didn't even know to hide all the smoking gun proof

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And I just grabbed it all up and we'll see what he has to present

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Like Ed Snowden and Rachel Maddow's clip room

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Him using clown world there is signaling to a particular audience that is 100% what's being done

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And we've seen Alex do that as well

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To the extent that Alex is aware of what he's doing, I think he is

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But you could probably make the same argument that he's fucking stupid

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And one of his interns or something is like, call it clown world

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No, it makes sense, they are clowns

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Whereas what it really is, is a tip of the hat to white supremacist and neo-nazi leaning groups

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Yeah, he might as well switch from 1776 2.0 to 1488 2.0

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No, no, no, no, only a select few prisoners know about 88

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That's right, I forgot, it's a select few prisoners, my bad

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So Alex is doing a lot of plugging during this talk with Zach

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And in this next clip, I love this so much

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In the span of 20 seconds, Alex plugs two shirts that he explicitly stole the designs for

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And we've got some of the t-shirts, by the way, that are limited edition

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The shirt inspired, I already had it being designed

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But then I saw Chris Pratt wearing a don't tread on me with a Gadsden snake with the Betsy Ross

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I'm like, that's genius, so we change it to that

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That shirt is almost sold out, so is the last one of the Space Force

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So those are both stolen

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He even says on there, I saw Chris Pratt, so we changed it to that

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That's even more explicit than he's been in the past

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He's implied very heavily that he stole that design because he saw it on Chris Pratt

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But now he's saying, we changed our design to what I saw on him

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That's intellectual property theft, Alex

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Yeah, no, he just admitted to a crime

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His whole thing is private property, he loves it so much

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But that does make more sense why the donk would be confused

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That his stuff was being censored for copyright violation

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Because they violate copyright all the time and they've never had any consequences for it

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The position that they could have, I see, is intellectual property doesn't exist

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But in order for them to make that, they need to change a number of the things that they say

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They also need to stop complaining about China and their intellectual property theft

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They have to take that arrow out of their quiver

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And they don't think they're willing to do that

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And so they're internally inconsistent when they steal other people's intellectual property and yell about it all day

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The rules do not apply to me and my ilk, Dan

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The rules apply to you, the people who I'm trying to oppress, and you won't just let me oppress you

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Fair enough

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So we get back here to the evidence that Zach is putting forth

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He has some audio of Susan Wojcicki giving a speech at an internal meeting

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And it doesn't really demonstrate anything close to what he's saying

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He's got that episode of Muppet Babies in his back pocket

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He does

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The speech that he has essentially boils down to like, we are going to not put bullshit in our feeds

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And why would you want a company to just allow anything in their news feed, let's say

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It doesn't prove what he's saying in any way

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So then he brings out one of the documents that he wants to highlight

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And it's not good

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It's not a good example

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This is part of the document dump that was released through Project Veritas

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If the audience wants to look at this, they can go to Project Veritas and download this

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This is called the training global Google efforts to address fake news

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And so on page 5, there's this document here

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And if you look at the second example, and that is

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WikiLeaks confirms Hillary sold weapons to ISIS, then drops another bombshell, breaking news

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Okay, and then the second one is something similar, Hillary's ISIS email just leaked

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And it's worse than anyone could have imagined

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Well, Hillary Clinton was running weapons to ISIS through Benghazi

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So, one of the issues that needs to be addressed here is that Zach Voorhees is not very smart

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He might be a good engineer or whatever, but he is a really stupid guy

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Here he is pointing to one of the documents he released about Google

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Defining what they consider to be fake news, and he takes issue with their example

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The example Google uses is about stories involving a WikiLeaks release of an email

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Particularly these stories are ones that allege that the email proved that Hillary was selling weapons to ISIS

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Today is not the day for us to get into Benghazi, and we've talked about it a bit in the past

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So let us leave that aside for a second

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I don't even care about any of the particular issues about Hillary selling weapons

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I don't care about Benghazi, any of that stuff, and here's why

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Because it's not relevant at all to the subject that Zach is talking about

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And this document that he has from Google

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What's in play in this consideration is whether or not the stories about WikiLeaks releasing an email

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That proved Hillary was selling weapons to ISIS, whether or not those are true

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That is it

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That's the only determinative factor about whether or not these stories are fake or not

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It could very well be that Hillary was selling weapons to ISIS, the Confederate States of America, and spider leadership

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But that has zero bearing on whether or not a story about a WikiLeaks email is true or not

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The only factor is whether or not such an email exists

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Because if it doesn't, then all the stories that are saying it does are lying and fake

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That email doesn't exist

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The closest thing that WikiLeaks has ever released is a series of emails from 2014

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Where Hillary indicates an awareness that the Saudi government had been clandestinely supporting ISIS

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And that we sold Saudi Arabia weapons

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She also explicitly notes in that chain of emails that their support of ISIS was something that we needed to apply pressure on

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To get them to stop doing

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The entire rest of the email is about stopping ISIS

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So I'm not sure if this comes close to qualifying as proof of her intentionally selling weapons to ISIS

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Also, Alex probably wants to keep the conversation squarely away from Saudi Arabia

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Lest you have to talk about Trump's huge weapons sales of late

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This is a classic case of a conservative media site creating a sensational headline

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In this case, WikiLeaks confirms Hillary sold weapons to ISIS

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Which is just picked up and repeated like a bad game of telephone until people repeating it

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No longer really even realize that they have no idea where they got the information from

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They don't want to sound stupid, so they claim that they read the WikiLeaks emails

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But dollars to donuts, if you ask them which email they're talking about, they wouldn't have an answer for you

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They couldn't have an answer for you, because no such email has ever been released by WikiLeaks

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You could make a pretty solid argument that during her time as Secretary of State

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A lot of weapons got sold or sent places that could have eventually found their way into the hands of ISIS

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Through theft or mishandling or some combination of circumstances

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But that's not the claim that's being made by these sites

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They're alleging that Hillary Clinton knowingly and intentionally sold weapons to ISIS, which is a false claim

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They're further saying that this WikiLeaks email proves their claim, which itself is another false claim

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This is why Google would use this as an example of a fake news story, because it is one

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Zach the Whistleblower is so entrenched in the world of right-wing conspiracy and propaganda

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That he has no idea what the actual conversation is that's happening

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He has his conclusion in mind, so he has zero interest in the nuance of why the example Google is using

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It's actually a really good case study

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He's very, very dumb, which is why he would find a ton of innocuous documents on Google's share folder

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And then decide that there was some kind of a smoking gun

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I've read a number of the documents

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I don't have time to read all thousand of them

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And some of them are not even relevant in any way to any of the arguments he's making

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But I did find a website that broke down all of the documents

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And their assessment of it, from a tech perspective, was that actually this paints Google in a really good light

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Yeah, of course

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There's nothing in there that, uh

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Of fucking course

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And then here's the other issue about this

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But it doesn't matter

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Just make it up and lie about it

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It just matters that something is there

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But here's what does matter about this situation

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When Zach Voorhees released these documents to Project Veritas

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Neither he nor James O'Keefe took the time to protect the identities of people who were mentioned to the documents

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The personal information of people in email threads

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They did nothing

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One entire folder marked partisanship is mostly screenshots of Google employees' social media accounts that Zach collected

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Where they say things that he feels indicates that there's a company-wide bias

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Leaving aside how fucking stupid that argument is

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That individuals having opinions indicates that the entire company has the same opinion

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This is a shameful act of doxxing on a massive scale

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And it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that it could put some of these people in danger

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If Zach is arguing that these people are trying to social engineer the country into a fraudulent election

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He's putting a gigantic target on them

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And Project Veritas decided to release the documents unredacted

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No legitimate journalistic outlet would ever do something like that

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It's really, really fucked up

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That is incredibly fucked up

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Yeah

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They can't do that, can they?

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I guess

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Why didn't we write laws for all this shit that in retrospect seems really, really obviously

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It's so, it's, but that's why

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Because it's so cartoonishly evil we would never have assumed we would need to write down those stupid laws

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Fucking unreal

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Well, I imagine that it's technically legal

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Like, because it's not, you know, like your social media account is public

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It's publicly available, yeah, yeah, yeah

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I get, I get all of that shit

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But it's, it's very clear that this is with malicious intent

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A hundred percent

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It is absolutely clear

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The only outcome that you can really expect of it is these people being harassed, threatened

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This is an implicit threat, if not an explicit one

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And it doesn't demonstrate anything that helps make Zach's point

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Right, no

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Now, I don't know if he's too stupid

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It just gives people targets

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But I don't know if he's too stupid to not understand that it doesn't make his point

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I think that's entirely possible

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It's possible that he didn't put, like, screenshots of these people's social media accounts in there in order to target them

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Right

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But if Project Veritas had even a kernel of respectability

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Then they would have gone in and wiped out people's names before releasing this publicly

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No, absolutely

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Because they have every reason to understand the possible ramifications of this

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Yeah

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So

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Considering they should be in jail a few times over now

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Right

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Yeah, they of course understand

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So this is the other piece of information that he's bringing to the table

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This Hillary ISIS email example that's in one of the documents

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Right, right, right

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Which is not good

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No

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If these are the pieces of evidence that he's bringing up, this stinks

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WikiLeaks email proves Hillary knew of horse sheriff that dresses up like master vigilante carrying guitar

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Now, why do they say that's confused?

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Why are they, yeah, what bullshit is coming here?

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And again, even if the conclusion that Hillary did sell weapons to terrorists

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Right, right

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Even if that's true, these stories are still fake

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The email doesn't prove it because it doesn't exist

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And thus the stories are fake

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Right

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It doesn't matter what the conclusion is

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Things have to be objectively real

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Right

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Yeah, got it

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So in this next clip, we get to another piece of information that Zach has, proof

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I don't even know if this one is fucking in his documents

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It's just some little magic trick that you can do

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Wait, what? If you fold a hundred dollar bill the right way, you can see that Hillary killed everybody?

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It's not far off

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God, I hate these people so much

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And so the way that Google was able to influence the election is that they were deleting the search prediction results

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when people were trying to find information about Hillary Clinton

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Now the thing is that a lot of people went on and were searching for the Clinton body count

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because there's a lot of people that have died related to Hillary Clinton

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Uh oh

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So his argument seems to be that they swayed the election because Google didn't allow the autofill suggestion

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for when you type in Hillary Clinton to be Hillary Clinton body count

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Right, right

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They took that out of the suggestions

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I imagine, or at least hope, that Hillary Clinton big tits was removed from the autofill

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Hillary Clinton feet

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Yeah

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Hillary Clinton body count you can search, but it pulls up pictures of iced tea with

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I like it, I like it

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So before we get into this, I want to say that I do think, generally speaking, that this, you know, it could get way out of hand

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for a media company to hide negative stories about a particular political figure regardless of their political affiliation or ideology

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I think that's something to keep in mind

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And if there's ever a serious example of that, I would give it some serious thought about what side I want to lay my cards on

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My chips

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Yeah

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However, this is not an instance of that

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Gonna go with me

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It's totally fine with a company like Google eliminating baseless and dangerous conspiracy shit from their suggested search function

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Yeah

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It's not like you can't just type in Clinton body count and get a ton of fucked up stupid results

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It's just that if you type in Clinton, Google doesn't then suggest, did you mean Clinton body count?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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So, the Clinton body count meme started back in 1993

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when a conspiracy theorist named Linda Thompson made a list of people near the Clintons who had died under suspicious circumstances

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with a heavy insinuation that they were murdered

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She had zero evidence of anything, just a desire to derail the Clintons, probably because she was a militia lunatic

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who had declared herself the, quote, acting adjutant general of the unorganized militias of the United States

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Why is it that these people are winning?

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I don't like that these people are winning over the rest of us right now

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It's bumming me out

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She planned a 1994 march on Washington where all militias would converge and arrest Congress

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Boy, that sure sounds more like a revolution, doesn't it?

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We all remember

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It's like a coup

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We all remember in 1994 when Congress got arrested

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Nope, because it didn't happen

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Citizens arrest

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Even the John Birch Society decried those plans as crazy, so she cancelled her march

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Thompson, she also made the incredibly inaccurate film Waco the Big Lie

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which I know I've heard Alex bring up before

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It's full of misrepresentations and some of the footage has even been accused of being actually manipulated

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But that didn't stop the film from being entered into evidence as part of Timothy McVeigh's defense in his Oklahoma City trial

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Love it

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Bombing trial

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Yes, come on

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Give me more of this lunacy

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So Linda sent her list of suspicious Clinton deaths to then-Representative William Dannemeyer

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who took the ball and ran with it, even adding entries to the list

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It should be pointed out that William Dannemeyer, though a former representative, is a completely insane and shitty person

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He wrote a post for TakeBackOurRights.org entitled

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quote, Now the government can legally kill Christians

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which reads like your grandmother's least coherent chain email

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Here are some choice passages

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Let's hear it

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Quote, Your US government can now legally kill Christians for the crime of worshipping Jesus Christ exclamation point

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Stop right there, we've got some edits to go through here, okay

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Who are you talking to first? When you say your

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Americas, Christians

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Okay, now when you're constructing a sentence, specifically one like this

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don't start with your government and then a run-on sentence that doesn't make any sense with an exclamation point

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But what about when

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One exclamation point in a novel, let alone a blog post, sir

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What about that, but starting the your is good, because it's like the announcer being like the Your New York Knicks

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No, no, that is not how it works

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No, it's fine

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A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their own leaders, all capitalized for own

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Their own leaders, senators, congressmen who have sold their soul to the devil

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Wait, so you were just talking to your government, suggesting you were talking to people

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Now who are you talking to with this sentence?

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There, I don't know, it shifts person

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He alleges that George H.W. Bush signed a law that

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quote, forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules called the Noahide laws

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Rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine exclamation point

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Do we even have those?

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If that word Noahide in there worries you, hold on to those thoughts

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Okay

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The article explains that a bill called Education Day USA, which was named that so no one would get suspicious

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sneakily added in language that recognizes the quote, 89th birthday of Rabbi Menashem Mendel Schneerson

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Stay with me

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You see, there was hidden in that bill, they had new laws that make it totally cool to kill Christians just for being Christian

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But of course, that would never pass if it were voted on by the House

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Right, right, no, I would hope

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But I think we're about to hear a very familiar story

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Quote, on the day this resolution was

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No, three people did not fucking do the Fed

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I promise you it's not that

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Quote, on the day this resolution was passed, passed in quotes, the entire membership of the House of Representatives

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had already been dismissed after having been told that the day's work, including the voting, was over

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We could all go home

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And then, after virtually all the members had left, that the traitorous authors of this resolution brought it up for a vote on the House floor

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with only four hand-picked members present

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There we go, all right, all right, whoa, whoa, I'm sorry

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I told you it was a three

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My bad, my bad

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Four

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My bad

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Yeah

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So, this bill eventually became public law 102-14

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And it is true that there's not a vote total recorded for it

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But that's just probably because it passed without objection

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It doesn't mean that four people voted on it and they just said, good enough

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I mean, for one, the bill had 225 co-sponsors

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So you'd assume that kind of bill would never actually come to a vote

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There are only 435 members of the House, so if a bill has 225 co-sponsors, it's never not going to pass

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I don't understand

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What if there is a surprise twist at the end?

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Right

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Why not do some professional wrestling shit and just come down and be like

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And I vote against it, yeah

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William Dannemeyer comes down, just starts giving out all the Congress people's stunners

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Yeah, why not?

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Dannemeyer has parted the Red Sea!

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Anyway, back to Crazy William's chain email

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Yeah, sure

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His argument is that because Rabbi Schneerson's organization follows the seven Noahide laws

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And this resolution recognizes them and calls for the world to return to the ethics promoted by those laws

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Which I should point out is a meaningless symbolic thing to be in there as language

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The US is now under these Jewish laws, and the punishment for breaking any of these laws is decapitation

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One problem with this is that it's stupid

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Another is that no historical source exists that contains an instance of a non-Jew being executed for breaking Noahide laws

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So it's kind of stupid

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Do these people just believe in- I mean, no, they do, of course

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They all just believe in magic

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They all just believe in magic, in narrative magic that makes sense so long as magic is real

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Yeah

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There's no way that you could possibly think that the government could just sneak in mass murder with no consequence

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Right, totally

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Or even if they did it one time, maybe they did sneak it in there, and they did it one time

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And everybody was like, whoa whoa whoa, that was legal?

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We're gonna have to revisit this

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It's not like Congress would be like, eh, we can't go back anymore

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I would say that what William Dannemeyer should do is test his theory by killing a Christian for being Christian and seeing how that goes for him

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It seems like it would work easily, because he's protected under the law

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Public law 102-14 says that we're under Noahide laws

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Okay, now I understand he can't do it because of course we're under Noahide laws

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Well, he could convert to Judaism and then, uh, badabing badaboom

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Maybe he just needs people to kill him

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No, he's already died now

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Then he could, oh, okay

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Alright

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So if you read the seven Noahide laws, it's basically very similar to the Ten Commandments

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And William's big beef seems to be that the Ten Commandments were written by God, whereas these seven were written by humans

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He explicitly says that that is a problem

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He explicitly says that that's a problem

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Yes

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Boy, I really don't want him to learn about all kinds of stuff

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This is an argument being made by a member of Congress in the 90s

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Yes

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The bar has always been low

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Yeah, oh no, no, absolutely

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At this point, things go a little bit off the rails for crazy William

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Oh, at this point?

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Yes

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Okay

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Quote, Jews, who by their financial contributions to members of Congress, claim they control what Congress will or will not do

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Alright, I'm gonna use your name

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A look at the recent history of US politics confirms this

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No American should underestimate the ferocity of the commitment of the Zionist Jews to control the entire political system of the world through the one world government now being created

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Weird, huh, that kind of sounds like what Google whistleblower Zach Voorhees believes

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Alright, I'm gonna need you to rewrite that sentence one more time

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Again, run-on sentences are a good stylistic thing sometimes, but Mr. Noah, Mr. Oh, I almost said Noah-hide

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Oh, I'm gonna kill you

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Danimyer

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It's fine if you're a Christian or whatever

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This is protocol shit, man

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Oh, yeah

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It's anti-Semitic garbage about a nefarious Jewish plot to take over the world and destroy Christianity

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So if you're keeping score, the Clinton body count story is the product of that guy and a lady who declared herself lawyer of a fake universal militia and decided she wanted to arrest Congress

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Over the years, periodically, people have debunked the specific people included on that list

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But it doesn't matter, like they debunked the idea that these are suspicious deaths

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I'm all for Google not suggesting this as a search result, like you might be looking for, because it's bullshit

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It's a path down a radicalizing road

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And I think that it is a responsible thing for society to recognize things like that

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And they're like, well, you can look for it, but we're not gonna help you find it

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Yeah

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Same thing with like, you know, you can't

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YouTube's algorithm has led so many people into those rabbit holes

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Right, and if you type Holocaust into Google, it didn't happen, it doesn't pop up

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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You know, things like that are entry points down a really bad road and you don't need to help people go down those roads

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That's my position on it, I don't know

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I assume Holocaust is

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If you think that I'm some sort of anti-free speech guy for that

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I never thought that I would see this day, Dan

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The day that you gave up on Holocaust, did it happen?

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I mean

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As a search result

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I'm not mad that like if you type in Alex Jones, the suggestion isn't killed his dog

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Yeah, yeah

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And even if like, let's say we started to really try and make a move

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Right, right

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Like posted a bunch of content about it

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Really pushed the, like a hashtag

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Just SEO'd the fuck out of it

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Right, even if you did that

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And then Google was like, you don't have any evidence that he killed his dog

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We're gonna eliminate that from search

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I wouldn't be like, wow, that's censorship

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Of course

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Yeah

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Of course, get that out of there

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I'm mad it took you this long

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That should be a suggestion

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We were fucking with you the whole time

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Yeah

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So, I don't know

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Anyway, Zach refines his idea about this

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About the elimination of the Clinton body count thing

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And he makes his point a little clearer in this next clip

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That information is out there, it's been catalogued

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People were able to find it

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But what was happening is that

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When people would go and try to type in like Hillary Clinton body count

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The Google search prediction was shut off

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And the thing is that if you went and searched for

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Example, Trump body count

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That search result prediction was suggested to the user

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But part of that is because

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There hasn't been a 26 year long fraudulent propaganda campaign against Trump

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Based on a body count

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So, they're completely unanalogous situations

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If there were, like let's say for 26 years

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People had been putting forth this bullshit list

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Of people near Trump who had died

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Who they're like, maybe he did it

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Right, right, right, right

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Then I would be like, yes absolutely

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That should not be in the suggested search results

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If it were, like if in those circumstances

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It were and Hillary's weren't

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Then he's got a good argument

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Right

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But they're completely different things

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So

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Yeah, fuck off

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That is

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But it's just an indication of how dumb this guy is

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That is so pathetic

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I don't like it

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I like it when we're dealing with the evil

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On the stupid evil continuum

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This is just really stupid

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This is too stupid

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Yeah

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This is so stupid that you're evil

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Like that's such a bummer

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It's very stupid

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Yeah

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So, Zach is trying to have Alex bring up his medium page

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Like his blog

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Sure

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Because he's got information on there

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Sure

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And this made me

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Not getting a lot of claps, Zach

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This made me laugh pretty hard

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Because I know what Alex is doing

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But Zach doesn't

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We're back in two minutes

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Continue and we'll go to the phone calls

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As you walk through this

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Hey, this great guy

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Zach Voorhees just showed up today

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He's like doing all these presentations

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So, it's powerful

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He'll be back tomorrow too

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He'll be more prepared

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You gotta come in here an hour before the show

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And tell them exactly what you want

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If the crew's great

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If you give them everything you want

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They'll have it

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It's like medium, lock this out

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That's what we're gonna show

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The medium version

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It's too bad

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It's okay

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But we got it on Infowars.com

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We'll be right back

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Hour number four, straight ahead

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Do you understand what happened?

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Oh

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Do you understand?

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Oh, that was beautiful

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Do you understand what he's doing?

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Oh, that was beautiful

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Oh, no, no, no

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We're not gonna link to your page

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No, no, no, no

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But you can come to Infowars.com

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Oh, we'll take you

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We're not driving traffic to you

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We'll take you all over there

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Yeah

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Well, everybody, we're gonna put up a link to

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No, no, no, no, no

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We're gonna put up a link to your site on Infowars.com

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We love your information

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Amazing

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We're bringing in people to my very desperate

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Get the fuck out of here, Google douchebag

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It's so transparent

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Yeah

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Ridiculous

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So, Alex also has a sale going on

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Sure

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There's a new sale

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Easter

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The Save Infowars sale has ended

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Right

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And now they're

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The Infowars saves you sale has begun

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The Baniversary sale was after that

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Right

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And now we have the America awakens sale

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Right

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1488 2.0

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Alex, I didn't get a clip of this, I wish I had

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But Alex explains it

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And it's just basically all the same specials

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But he's like

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It's not on everything, it's just on some stuff

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So it's a worse special

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Woah, we didn't

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It's not a special

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We can't afford to do that special anymore

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So this one's slightly less special

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Well, some things aren't included in it

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It's the same 50-60% off free shipping and double patriot points

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Right

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Just not on some things

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Right

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It's like, wow, you're really selling this new special

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I'm loving it

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It's just a decreasing of the sale

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I like turning that into a positive

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Yeah

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So Alex goes to Commercial and he comes back

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And they play a compilation of him talking about how like

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Silicon Valley people are on drugs

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Right

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While Zack is right next to him

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Yeah, okay, okay, good

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I don't know if they were

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I don't know what they were doing during the break

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Or when this special report is playing

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But I have this minute-long clip here

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And mic down for this

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Okay

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Because I need you to pay close attention

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And recognize that I didn't make this compilation

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They did

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This sounds like a parody

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Okay

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This sounds like something someone would make

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If they were making fun of Alex

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Okay

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You know when somebody's on drugs

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They admit Silicon Valley is into hardcore speed and illusions

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They're taking IV drips at work of DMT

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They're taking LSD microdoses and psilocybin mushrooms

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And peyote every day

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Who in the hell would want to join with these people?

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I've seen people take like three hits of acid and their eyes aren't that big

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What the hell are they on?

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And one of the crew members said maybe they've already got

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This whole Neuralink wire that hooks in their brain

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Because this PKD pointed out

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Philip K. Dick back in the 70s

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The cyberpunk future is where you can get any type of pleasure you want

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Just plug in

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But no one wants to even get up or eat for weeks or days

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You just die

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Because you just plug all this in

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And it's the Matrix

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And now the Matrix is here

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And you look at Tim Cook or Elon Musk

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Or any of his executives

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When they're up there on that stage

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They'll be under white lights

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Their pupils are 90% open

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Zuckerberg, all of them

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These people either have brain chips

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That's it

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These guys are wire heads

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Something's going on

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I'm in here underneath bright lights

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And my pupils are very little

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Now zoom in if you can

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My pupils are tiny

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Because I'm not on drugs

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I've had two cups of coffee today

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So here, let me show you my pupils, okay?

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This is crazy

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That sounds exactly like a guy

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Who is incredibly high

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Yeah

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Also, citing Philip K. Dick

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That dude was on a lot of drugs

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Oh man, I'll tell you what's going on

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I'll tell you what's fucking going on

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Look at the pupils

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They're all doing drugs

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Look at my pupils

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My pupils are fine

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I've only had two cups of coffee

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Two cups of coffee, that's it

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That's all I fucking had

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Nothing

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They're maybe not on drugs

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Maybe they're wire heads

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Yeah, maybe they're high

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They've got brain chips

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They're all dying

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I mean, I listened to that

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I was like

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Is someone inside fucking with him?

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Somebody is fucking with us

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I don't know

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I thought that was hilarious

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That's incredible

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It's either Alex leaning into a recognition

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That these are the only kinds of things

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That get attention for him

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Outside of his already established audience

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Like these memes that are kind of making fun of him

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And maybe he's trying to lean into that

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Like, oh, people will laugh at me for this

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Maybe it'll get some traffic

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I'm not sure

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But whatever it is, it's sad

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It makes me very sad

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Man, if that's done with the straight face

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They should really, really rethink everything about them

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Holy shit

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How are they doing in Hong Kong right now?

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No, they do check back in

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But it's, again, like another 20-second thing

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That's fantastic

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Or maybe not 20 seconds

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But it's very short

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And there's not really any

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Certainly no exclusives

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No

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And yeah, just sort of leave it alone

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Also, I should point out

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I have not cut out, like, mentions of Trump's shit

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No, okay

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He just has not brought it up

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Nothing

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Not a single mention

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Okay

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I like it

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But he does declare that it's time to start arresting people

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Okay

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They're moving, they're not giving up

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So what do you do in a crisis like that?

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I think it's a national security issue

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As Peter Thiel has said, they're in bed with China, so is Apple

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I think you have to arrest the leadership

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Or let them steal the election

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And they've got the Washington Post saying China will crush Trump

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Hi, I'm Dan Pilla

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I started fighting the IRS over 40 years ago

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Great timing

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So yeah, he wants tech executives arrested unilaterally

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And he's citing this Washington Post opinion piece

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However you gotta get there, I'm fine with that

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Sure

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I'm cool with that

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I'm not?

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No

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Which ones?

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Not arrest of everybody

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No, no

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Like a purge

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They probably have it coming

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Well, that remains to be seen

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Yeah

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So I think Zach is dumb

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And I think I've made some decent arguments to that extent

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I think history will bear you out, yeah

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I think he's also crazy

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Yeah

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As indicated by this next clip

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You'll see a lot of politicians, a lot of people like open their eyes and just continue to talk

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And it's a good technique in order to deceive like people

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Like I'm kind of doing it like right now

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Look at camera four, it's over there

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Camera four, okay, so you know if I'm wanting to tell you a lie

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Then I'm gonna open up my eyes real wide and I'm just gonna talk to you

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And you're gonna get locked into a trance

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And one of the key things is that you don't want to blink

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So he's trying to hypnotize the audience by staring into the camera

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This is silly

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Okay, okay

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Now what you do is you open up your eyes and you don't stop talking

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Jordan, look at me, I'm talking to you

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You're in a trance

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It is a pleasure to meet you, President Mesmer

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You got me

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You got me

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That's a weird angle or direction for this show to go in

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Where the two of them have failed to demonstrate to a critical observer in any way

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You weren't listening to the parts where they did it, okay

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I was listening

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You would have been listening but you were hypnotized, Dan

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Oh, that might have been it

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Duh

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So they get into talking about fluoride being bad for you

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Which has to do with Google, for sure

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I guess they kind of jumped onto this because they're saying that Google is blocking like real health information

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Which I assume is somehow some sort of a defense of Mike Adams

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Sure, sure, why not

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Throw all your lies in there at once, make it a nice big stew

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Yeah, so Google's blocking Mike Adams and they get onto real health information

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And then they talk about, Zach brings up a study about fluoride that he thinks is real good stuff

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And there's a lot of research internationally showing that fluoride lowers the IQ of particularly males

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And now it's like, okay, well I think the Journal of Pediatrics or something similar to that

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Released a study saying that, yeah, for each milligram of fluoride found in the pregnant mom's urine

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It lowered the IQ by a certain amount

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And they tested this and they found that it was true

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And it's like, duh, this happens in every single animal

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So first thing to point out, it's clear that Zach has not really read this study or dug into it

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It sounds like he read it all, it sounds like he read it from start to finish

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A certain amount of IQ or something

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Yeah, no

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As best I can tell, I think he just heard that there was a study that involved IQ fluoride and P

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And it was just bluffing the rest, I'm guessing that's what's happening

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So this is a study that was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association Pediatrics

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And it's important to point out that it's very, very explicit in the study that this is in no way a demonstration

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Of a causal link between consumption of fluoride during pregnancy and lowered IQ of the child

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All it does is indicate a possible association

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Now a couple problems with this study

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They aren't actually problems with the study, but they're problems for the conclusion that Alex and Zach are deriving

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Right, right, right, right

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But the first is that only 85.2% of the parent-child pairs had urine analysis done

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To actually solidify what their fluoride levels were

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For a lot of the rest of the data, they used questionnaires and made estimates based on the level of fluoride in the water in a given city

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And the study even says, quote,

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For this study, we developed methods to estimate and calculate fluoride intake that have not yet been validated

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So they didn't compare those methods results with, say, the actual

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They did

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There was some indications between the urine tests and the questionnaires and estimates that they ran similar

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Okay, that's good

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Which is good

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No, that is good

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But also, these methods have not been validated

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By their own language, these methods have not been validated

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And they may eventually be validated

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But at this point, a line like that needs to cause pause

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The second is that the study itself points out that fluoride has a very short half-life of around five hours

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So testing it in someone's urine can be a kind of tricky thing

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It can be thrown off by brushing your teeth an hour before the test, for instance

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It's not necessarily the best way to figure out what a consistent level of fluoride in your system would be

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The study also explicitly says, quote,

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This observational study design could not address the possibility of other unmeasured residual confounding

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Which is to say that there are a ton of factors they couldn't control for that might have influenced the results

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This isn't a knock on the study in any way

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Since the conclusion is just that the observational study found a possible association and it should and could be studied more

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The problem is when people like Alex and Zach take the study like this

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And over-exaggerate its conclusion as proof that low amounts of fluoride lower IQ

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Which Zach is explicitly saying

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Yes

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He's saying that taking fluoride caused it

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And they discovered and they proved it

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Yeah, which is not true

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Right

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You can have conversations about all this stuff, you just can't lie about it

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Which is what they're doing

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Yes, exactly

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Now the final problem is that the IQ tests for the children were given between the ages

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When they were between the ages of three and four

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While it's certainly not unheard of as a thing to do

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I've found a number of resources that caution against IQ testing children this young

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The children may not be able to focus on the test adequately and that can produce an unreliable result

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Plus there are tons of examples of people's IQ fluctuating quite a bit over the years

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Now they say that tests are supposed to be designed to produce a consistent result within plus or minus five points

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But that's not always the case

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And the younger the child is when they're tested

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The more likely it is that they're going to get an unreliable test result

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This would be more compelling if the children were ten, let's say

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But again, that's not disqualifying for the study

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It's just a caveat for why this isn't necessarily proof of anything

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Just a study that says that more studying is required

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And these are all things that are in the study itself

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Like there's sections in these studies of limitations of the study

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Here are the reasons why there are possible issues with what we're putting forth

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And why we can't make a determinative conclusion

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We're not trying to prove anything

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We're trying to get almost like a divining rod out there that's going to say

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This area is going to narrow down what we should be studying on it

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As opposed to we're trying to prove that fluoride does anything

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We're simply trying to factor in as many variables as we possibly can

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To point to whether or not we do need to study more of this

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Well if this study is followed up on and people do more studies

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They control for the variables that were uncontrolled in this

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If you do find some indication that there is a link between fluoride

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And diminished IQ in children then

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Cool!

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Well yeah, then you learn something

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You prove something and now we can control for that

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Right, and that's fine, that's just not established

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So anyway, we're done with the 21st

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Zach, go to hell

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Zach was a hero

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Absolutely

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Zach, the MVP of this episode

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So we didn't get any talk about Trump being the chosen one

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Which again is because it probably happened while Alex was on air

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And he doesn't care about anything

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We didn't get any talk about the Jews being disloyal

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We didn't get any talk about the second coming of God kind of shit

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We got more talk from people in Hong Kong who weren't allowed to speak

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Yes

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So we get into Thursday, the 22nd

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And Alex jumps into the show and makes up for it

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By finally, I think he realized like, I can probably ignore the Jews are disloyal thing

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I could probably ignore that

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Chosen one shit you can't ignore

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Kinda gotta

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You gotta confront the chosen one

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So Alex does

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Even Eddie Murphy knows that

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Trump is our champion

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Trump is delivering

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And what you just heard is the truth

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It's so refreshing to hear a statesman in office

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Telling it like it is and straight shooting

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73 years old

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Never seen anything like it

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The precision, the commitment

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Yes, Trump is the chosen one

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We're all chosen to fulfill our destinies if we choose to take those destinies in our hands

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Boo

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Trump is delivering the country out of the globalist bondage

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And they're fighting like the devil

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To keep their entire system

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In place right now

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Good take, good take Alex

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Alright, I'm gonna give it to him

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Just like I would the Somali pirates

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Turning Trump saying that he's the chosen one into

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It's good to finally see a statesman in office telling it like it is

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That is mental gymnastics Simone Biles could never touch

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Well but again it's like I was referencing at the beginning of the show

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An argument could be made that you're saying I'm the chosen one to take on China

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But that has to eliminate all prior context

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It has to take out of context the fact that he put his hands out and looked up to the sky

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While saying I'm the chosen one

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There's too much surrounding this to allow that kind of a dodge

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And I'm not going to allow Alex to make that dodge

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Good god no

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That's sad, that's sad and hilarious

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So then Alex gets into the dual loyalty idea

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Here we go

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And this isn't good

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Let's double down

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This isn't good either

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And so Trump says man these Jews sure are betraying Israel

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Working with people like Talib and everybody that literally want to blow it off the face of the earth

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Really not good

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And they turn that around and did you hear the anti-Semitic statement

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So support for Israel and its existence is now anti-Semitic

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This is upside down world

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And you've got the extreme right and the extreme left that are really the same people

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Obsessing over Israel constantly and applying mythical leprechaun powers to Israel

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And then acting like Netanyahu runs the world

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Meanwhile it's the Rothschilds who are globalist leftist Jews who are now trying to overthrow Netanyahu

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What

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I mean you cannot make this up

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Yes you can

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It's not Netanyahu and Israel it's not those Jews it's this other

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It's the other Jews

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People ascribe mythical powers to guys like Netanyahu saying they run the world

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That's stupid they should be ascribing mythical powers to the fucking Rothschilds

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Who are liberal Jews

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Jesus we're fucking we're going to die

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We're so

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We're all going to die

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This is so nuts

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This is insane

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This is insane

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Brian Kilmeade is going to say this tomorrow

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So I think you can get the sense of what's going on is that Alex has to paint the idea that

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Tlaib is advocating for the end of Israel

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Calling for its destruction

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Absolutely

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As opposed to critiquing the government being horribly repressive against the Palestinians

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Well at the same time turning that into jangly keys so you don't stop and think too hard about

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Wait did Trump say he was the chosen one?

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We need to attack her in order to cover for the fucked up things Trump did

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Don't talk about Trump's stuff

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We got this what about

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He is the chosen one in the same way we are all the chosen one

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Anyways did you know that liberals are actually eating your baby's faces right now

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Are you looking at your baby's face because an invisible liberal is eating it right now

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Sure so in order to achieve his ends Alex has to get really fucking mad about Rashida Tlaib's press conference

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Where she and Ilhan Omar came out and talked about the not being allowed to go on their fact finding mission

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Because Israel is great

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Alex is like get ready this is really bad

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The way Alex carries himself is I mean I don't know how else to say it it's really really bad

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And I'm sick of it in the same playbook being run against Israel about open your borders let everybody in to have free stuff

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He's being run against us you know I sat there in the break room what was it Monday evening

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And with my mouth hanging open during that press conference with the four horsemen of the democratic apocalypse

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Crying and whining and oh my mother needed a hospital she was in Palestine or my grandmother and they wouldn't let her in for free healthcare

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So you want to blow the country up but it's got to give you some free stuff

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But then in your wonderful Palestinian place you can't even put two and two together and you basically live in a dictatorship

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So I watched the speech that she gave and I didn't hear her say that free healthcare was verbatim

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I didn't hear that I want Israel to take in my grandmother so she gets free things

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You weren't listening

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Oh okay and I didn't hear any call to blow up Israel I don't think that the people who are

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That's because she widened her eyes a little bit and looked directly into the camera duh

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I have some missing time

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Duh

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Oh no

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Duh it's like contact you're the Jodie Foster of this little experiment here

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Yeah so Alex is invalidating arguments surrounding Palestinian rights absolutely 100%

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Oh yeah

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But he goes further in this next clip and basically invalidates their existence

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And then Saudi Arabia won't take one of you in and Jordan won't take you in and Egypt won't take you in

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And why is that? Because every time you look at who's starting these rebellions and these attacks

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It's Palestinians because they don't even exist folks

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They're just people that migrated into that area and want to take it over

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It's just it's a made-up thing and so everybody's tried to bully me to attack Israel

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And tried to bully me no I'm gonna support Israel now more because you tell me I can't

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That's so childish that is incredibly

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So for the record the Palestinian diaspora extends to many countries that Alex is pretending don't allow in any Palestinians

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He's just making shit up to support his own xenophobic and completely racist worldview

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Alex's argument the Palestinians aren't even a real thing is a shameful display of rhetoric

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That leads very easily to dehumanization and exterminationist arguments

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And it's not something I'm even going to dignify with a response

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That is insane that is literally insane

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Yeah

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So in this next clip Alex insists that Rashida is fake crying

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While she's talking about this is just bad this is real bad

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And I've got all these subjects to get into but I've got a lot of news out of Israel

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But I just think about Talib talking about her grandmother

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I never got to the clip we're gonna play it later

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And she's crying and it's so fake

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And Israel is just a way to see this picture

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A Rosetta Stone a skeleton key as I call it

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Because it's the left their religion is that they're victims

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It's like all these people that attempt suicide constantly for attention

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What?

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It's one thing we got bone cancer and you're in incredible pain

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You don't want to spend all your money all your family's money on it and don't want to you know go through all the pain

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You shove a gun in your mouth and blow your head off

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Hey that's your life it's you know I don't judge you I understand that

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But all these people that constantly are attempting suicide and constantly whining about what victims they are

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And I look at the four horsemen

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These parasites that hate America and tell us how bad we are all day

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And then fetishize saying Israel shouldn't exist

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And then when Israel doesn't let her in she whines and cries about her grandmother

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And how her grandmother deserves all this free health care that she thinks is in Israel

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And again Israel is just a microcosm of all of this

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What?

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And the point is there's a fight over who controls Israel

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That was the point?

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There's a fight over who controls America

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There's a fight over who controls Europe

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And it's not a fight between Germans and Jews or between Mexicans and Russians or between Chinese and Japanese

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It's a fight between evil and good

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In your family it's a fight between good and evil

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What?

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In your relationships in your business in your life at your church

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There's a struggle in the universe between good and evil

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If your people don't agree with my crazy bullshit that I'm spreading

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You're evil

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Now also I mean just all this stuff aside

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Like there's some comedy in the fact that Alex is talking about

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Like demeaning people who struggle with suicidal inclinations

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Like they just want attention

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And then describing that to being what the behavior of the Democrats are

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When you had fucking Count Dankula on your show

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Wait Carpe Donctum on your show

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They're the same person

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He's had both of them on

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I don't care

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When you have Carpe Donctum on talking about his link to copyrighted material that he stole being blocked

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He's a victim

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Right this whole thing is like

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Absolute victim

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This is pathetic

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But he's a real victim Dan

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And we're the libs and we're just trying to steal victimhood

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From people like Carpe Donctum who deserve

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The donk is getting uh...

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...ronked

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Yeah

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I mean I don't even know where to begin

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We could begin with him calling these people parasites

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We could uh

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No I mean he's just

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It's almost like a lot of this stuff is I feel like presenting with minimal commentary

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Except where necessary

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Because this is just horrible shit that Alex is putting forth

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And he needs to because of how horrible the things Trump's saying are

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Yeah yeah yeah absolutely

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This is part of I mean this is stuff he believes

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Don't get me wrong it's not uh

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It's not like you didn't know this

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Well it's a combination of like that

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Also considering ten years ago Alex was firmly in favor of Palestinian rights

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No I can't no we don't even need to

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No no no no

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We went

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It's a really short walk from I think apartheid's bad to

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They're not even people

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Did you think about that?

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Did you think maybe they weren't even real Dan?

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It's like that combination of his worldview being only able to see through his eyes

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So he's always

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He doesn't understand a good faith argument

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He doesn't understand that they could be real crying

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Because he can't

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Carpe Donctum

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He can't real cry

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You know he can only fake

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It's always performative for him

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Yeah exactly

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Therefore it must be for everybody else

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And then there's also that like

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Man this is

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This Trump shit is way too wild

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I don't even know what to do other than

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Invalidate an entire people

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I think part of it is he feels he has to do that

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Because he knows he's also going to validate Trump's shit

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And in order to do that you have to have something to

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I guess this would be the equivalent of like

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White supremacist sugar to help the medicine go down

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Yeah

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Now we're recognizing Trump as God appointed

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As the Messiah

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Yeah yeah yeah

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Which he does in this next clip

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Okay great

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And Trump says

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In his whole talk

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I'm the chosen one

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I got elected

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He looks up

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And it's true

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I mean obviously

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We're all chosen for what we do if we take the path

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God gives us a path

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The devil gives us another

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Of course Trump's chosen

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It's a phenomenon

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And everybody can see it and smell it

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And the devil and the enemies

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The little snakes

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They can't stand it

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Let's go out to break with the president

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Talking about being the chosen one

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And acknowledging God

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That God chose to put him in that position

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Against the enemy's whole operation

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That is God

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That's really fucked up

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And he's a coward

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The way he's presenting this

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Oh yeah

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This

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Oh yeah

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A little, a little bit

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Can you imagine if during the ACA negotiations

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Obama was like

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God chose me to help give everyone health care

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Can you imagine

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Alex would make the same arguments

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That he was already making

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But it would be based on something Obama had said

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Yeah

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Alex accused him of being like messianic

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Yeah

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It's crazy

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This is so disgraceful

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Well I mean this is

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G-dubs did the same shit though

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Like he didn't go

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I'm the chosen one

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But he did go

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He did have the whole like

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God put me in office

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To make sure that we bombed Iraq

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For the rest of our fucking lives

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Yeah

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And I think that there was an acceptable

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And I put that in quotes

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Yeah

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Like a socially acceptable version

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Of having a belief in a purpose

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Right

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As opposed to straight up Messiah

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We had a societal understanding of like

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The lengths that you can use that

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And George Bush probably was on the wrong side of that line

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Yeah, yeah for sure

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But you know like

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Hey you know, G-d put me on this earth to make this podcast

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Yeah, yeah

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That's kind of within the acceptable realm of

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Because we're living in a metaphor

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As opposed to a delusion of grandeur

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Right

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Yeah

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I wouldn't say that I'm the chosen

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And especially when you're the quote unquote

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Leader of the free world

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Right

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As opposed to like

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Saying that I run a carpentry business

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Right

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Or I'm a good father

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Or I run a podcast

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Let me put it to you this way

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I would not declare myself the chosen one

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Even though in the cult

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I was literally the chosen one

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Oh yeah, there is that

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You have some history

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I'm the only one who literally has chosen one

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Written on his fucking name

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And I'm still not doing it

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Yeah, you have some experience in this

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Oh yeah

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I've been the chosen one for my whole life

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Dan, Trump is just jumping out of my bag

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Johnny come lately

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Come on

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So Alex gets back to attacking the squad

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In this next clip

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And uh

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The four horsemen of the apocalypse

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Apocalypse

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And then you see

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Talib, the leader of the fantastic rat pack

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Woof

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That uh

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Woah man

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That fell apart

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That's

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And I love how he can claim that each one is the leader

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Whatever it serves his purpose

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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It's so great

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Yeah, AOC's been in the background for a while

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So Trump is like

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She's jealous of attention

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You're all fucking stupid

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Also the rat pack were like groundbreaking entertainment figures

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Alcoholics

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The rats that have left are sinking ships

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And then come here to perch and bitch

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And tell us how much we suck all day

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So they can be victims and get more goodies

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That's why you can't run your own countries

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Cause no one wants to build anything

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You just wanna run around killing each other

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Cause everybody has a right to rule

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Instead of build

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What?

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And then we're told by these

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Fallen, twisted individuals

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That we suck and we're bad

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Because they know we've got those buttons to push

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And then we'll then grovel to them

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Oh I see, that's how it goes

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Is that how it goes?

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So Rashida Talib was

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She is a Palestinian American

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But she was born in fucking Detroit

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Right

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AOC was born in

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So she should go back to her country and tell them how to run it

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She was uh

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was born in New York

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Uh

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Presley was born in Cincinnati

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Right

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And Omar came here as a refugee

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When she was like ten years old

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And as a citizen

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See?

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Then everything's fine

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Alex is explicitly invalidating

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The American-ness of these women

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Because they are people he sees as non-white

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Who disagree with him

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Which is something he can't tolerate

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Three of them were born here

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And the other's a citizen

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So when he tells them that they should be

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Making their own countries better

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That's exactly what they're trying to do in Congress

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Don't think too hard about it

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Alex experiences that as an attack

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Because there's a lot of problems

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That they're trying to address

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And bringing up about the country

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That revolve around the ideas of entrenched power hierarchies

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Which Alex will desperately cling to

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No matter what the cost

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Then that idea that he's bringing up to

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This idea of like

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They're just uh

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They know that we have feelings

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We have empathy

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That they're trying to exploit

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I mean can't you easily imagine him saying the exact same thing

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Like during um

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The end of slavery?

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Yeah

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Oh absolutely

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Like oh yay

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Oh yeah

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You're saying that uh

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These people are whipped and beaten

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And worked

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On the fields

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But that's

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All you're doing is trying to appeal to my

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Good, noble, white human emotions

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I don't want

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Look, look

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This is God

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Have you not read the Bible?

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The Bible says that we have to keep them where they are

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Because that's where they belong

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Look

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I have just as much of a bleeding heart as any of you

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What do you guys call yourselves?

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But that's why I want to maintain slavery

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Of course

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Because it's in their best interest

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Exactly

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I'm

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That's because I'm so empathetic

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I have to whip them

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In the civil rights era you could imagine Alex being like

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Oh sure you know

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You know there's

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They want to have me and my friends hose them down

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So I'll feel bad for them

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It's all their idea

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Or the angle on that would be like

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Yeah you're showing these pictures of people being hosed

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But that's just to tug at my heartstrings

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Right

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You're trying to exploit my good, white empathy mechanisms

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In order to override

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Whatever

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I mean this is just classic bullshit

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Yeah

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So this next clip is unhinged

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It's disgusting

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Alright

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And it's Alex trying to go over the press conference itself

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The whole middle east used to be Christian

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Until Mohammed showed up

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And then now you killed all the Christians and ran them out

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And I'm supposed to kiss your butt lady

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I'm not doing it

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It's you that ought to pay reparations

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What?

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You want to say that if any white people ever owned slaves

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So who?

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Some of them still run slave trade

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You wicked whore

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Oh no

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God almighty that's insulting whores

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I apologize to prostitutes

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Oh no

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Let's play this maggot

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This engorged maggot

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Bitching and complaining

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A psychopath

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A sociopath

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Bare minimum

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Trying to punch our buttons

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Because we have emotions

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You big fat demon

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Here she is

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A young girl visiting Palestine

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To see my grandparents and extended family

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I watched as my mother had to go

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To dehumanizing checkpoints

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How about dehumanizing suicide bombs?

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I was a United States citizen and proud American

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I was there when my sit-teeth

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Was in a terrible car accident

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And my cousins and I cried

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So she could have access to the best hospitals

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Which were in Jerusalem

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I remember shaking with fear when checkpoints

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Appeared in the small village of Beth Orelfocha

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Oh hit pause for a minute

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Because they got a raw feed

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When I was watching on Fox

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It showed all the lunatic women up there

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All these crazy leftist women that look like

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Starving chicken neck birds

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Or like something out of a Dr. Seuss

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Children's book

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And they're all crying and putting on this big act

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So Alex has to interrupt there

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Because she's getting into territory

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That's very close to a lot of his old rhetoric

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Oh yeah

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The idea of checkpoints and

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Oh I don't know

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Government oppression of people

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Like that's the stuff that he's railed on for years

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Yeah

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He can't allow that sort of thing

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To be presented on his show

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By someone who he is deeming

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A maggot and a parasite

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And all this because

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It's way too close to his lane

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And you run the risk of listeners hearing

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Her express this sentiment

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And then think, huh

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I think I'm against checkpoints, right?

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I remember vaguely being against checkpoints

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Now what she's describing is exactly

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The sort of tyranny that my hero Alex Jones

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Has been screaming about

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Wait, wait a second, hold on

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So Rashida is saying

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That there was a government

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That was oppressing her

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A minority of people

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Through tyrannical tactics

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Checkpoints and constant oppression

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And I'm

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And she's a bad guy?

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Yes

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Oh okay, well then never mind

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That's what's being

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That's uh

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I think that Alex recognizes

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That there's a danger in presenting this

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Without interruption

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Without pre-priming the pump

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Absolutely

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About how evil he thinks Rashida is

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And it's a disgusting display

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It's like when a sommelier

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Is going through the list of things

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That you're supposed to taste

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In a way to influence you

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To actually taste those

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So Alex is screaming about

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How she's a maggot

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And all of the other bullshit

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So you can see

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Instead of a human being

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Expressing the very tyrannical government

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That you're supposed to be against

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Acting against her

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Instead you see

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A flaming demon monster

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Tugging upon your heartstrings

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Right

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And his arguments too

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Just about like

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What about truck bombs

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Or like what about suicide bombs

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Like well okay

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But your whole thing

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Was about like this tyranny

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That's gonna come to America

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And your guys are gonna get targeted

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Because of a big bombing

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The Oklahoma City bombing

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Yeah

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Well those weren't false flags

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White people didn't do it

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Fair enough

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There you go

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So in this next clip

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Alex seems to be imagining

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That the idea that people like

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Talib and everybody else

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Is putting forth

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Is that Muslims have never done anything bad

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And that's not the discussion at all

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He's creating a straw man version of that

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In order to attack that

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As if that's the real position

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Naturally

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But just the way it's all

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Oh black and white

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Oh the Muslims

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They never hurt nobody

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I saw articles out yesterday

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Fact checkers are gonna stop people

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Claiming Islam is behind terror

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Remember Obama said

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That's not Islam

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How the hell did it expand then

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In 1400 years

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To take over half the planet

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Playing tiddlywinks

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Think it overran all those other empires

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And things

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Because it was friendly

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You wanna talk about

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Christian missionaries

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I was gonna say

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Hold on one second dude

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You wanna talk about the expansion

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Of Christianity

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How do you think

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I mean even on our last episode

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We were talking about

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The overthrow of the monarchy in Hawaii

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The missionaries were very much

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Involved in that

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It's incredibly important

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And that's a low bar example

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That's a smaller example

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Of the ways in which Christianity

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Was used in colonialism

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I suppose that's also a tacit

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Agreement that Christianity

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Did it the same way

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Right?

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No he's trying to obscure that

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Christianity only spread nobly

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And Muslims in Islam

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Spread strictly by the sword

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Okay so once again

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We're in good versus evil

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Good spreads organically throughout

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And evil is Islam

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Man this whole good versus evil thing

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We should really stop it

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It's a clunky dichotomy

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We gotta get rid of that shit

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So Alex in this next clip

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I don't know

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Just talking shit

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It's the same branding

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The same crap

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By a whiny parasite

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And I'm done

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Bowing to you

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And the Democratic Party

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Let's go back to her

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I remember visiting East Jerusalem

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With my then husband

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And him escorted off the bus

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Although he was a United States citizen

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Just so security forces could harass him

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Here let's stop again

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Oh you want to overthrow Israel

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You stage all these events

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And then you can't believe

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That when you drive in

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From the West Bank

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That were suicide bombers

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Attacked routinely

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And people are stabbed to death

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On a weekly basis

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And shot

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You can't believe

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Anybody at their borders

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Checking you

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Meanwhile as a US citizen

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I have to have my balls grabbed

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Because they won't profile Islamicists

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When I go to the stupid airport

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Because the Muslims have been

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Hijacking aircraft for 60 damn years

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Witch

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I get to live in a police state

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Because the globalists

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Have let you run wild on purpose

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And Trump is trying to do something about it

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And end all these wars

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And stop stirring you up

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That's insane

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Um, okay

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So

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She described living in a police state

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Right

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He agreed with the police state

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Right

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Then said that he has to live in a police state

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Right

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Because the police state isn't correctly policing

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I guess

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Yes

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Yeah

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He's mad that

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He's mad that

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Muslims here

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Aren't subject

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Aren't living in a police state

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Yes

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Basically

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I think that's

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I think that's how you diagram

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That sentence, right?

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Yeah

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Or that collected

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It falls entirely in line with so much of the conditional aspect

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Of Alex's principles

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Yeah

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They're only a problem when they're being applied towards

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The white people

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The good people of the West

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Yeah, yeah

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He wishes for all of the negative things

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That he yells about

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To be applied to people unlike himself

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Yes

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Absolutely

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That's not good

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So in this next clip

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He attacks these women some more

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I don't know

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I mean I could just give that as an introduction

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For pretty much all of these clips

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Yeah, Jesus

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Let's go back to her

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As my city's granddaughter

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As the great daughter of a woman

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Who lives in occupy territories

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To elevate her voice

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By exposing the truth

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The only way I know how

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As my Detroit Public Schools teachers taught me

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Well you sure ran that in the ground

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By humanizing the pain of oppression

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Our delegation

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Oh my gosh

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It's so oppressive

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Let me into Israel

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Oh my gosh

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It's so oppressive

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Let me into America

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Go to Somalia

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Go fix your own problems

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Wrong person

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With peanut head over there

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Isn't

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Ilhan Omar

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God almighty

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Our family is a rich powerful slaver family

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I looked it up

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No you didn't

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Obama's Muslim family in Kenya

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Are slavers

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Did you

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They're slavers of blacks

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I would call on Alex to prove that in any way

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Well I believe I recall he proved that Ilhan Omar is from a slaver family

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Because her skin color is a little bit lighter

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That was the evidence that he used last time

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That was his evidence that he used last time

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So he has proved it

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That is true

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Omar's father was a teacher

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He taught teachers

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Isn't education a form of slavery down there?

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In a way, yeah

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The only evidence that I could find that backs up any claim even close to this

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Was a Gateway Pundit article that made allegations

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That he was working with the government

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And had some sort of

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He was a secret terrorist

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Sure, sure, sure

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He was a CIA dentist

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It didn't prove

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In any way, it didn't have any sourcing

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No

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But Alex is probably going off of that

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Yeah, sure

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This is one of those situations where there's a pretty high bar for evidence

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Of this sort of thing

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Claiming that a congressman's family is entirely slavers

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Oh, and former president

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And former pres- that's right, that's right

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Both people of color

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Oh yeah, I don't understand what bonds them together in this situation

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I would request that

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I feel like you could get sued for that

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Absolutely

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I do feel like what Alex is saying is actionable

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Yeah

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I know it's not worth anybody's time to actually sue him for outstanding

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Probably not anymore, yeah

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That is pretty crazy

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The fact that he's saying, I looked it up

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Where the fuck did you look that up?

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Man of shit

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He has a responsibility to cite some sort of a source

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Or prove this in any way

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And he's failed to do so

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And as it is, that's just slander

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So in this next clip

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He declares that Rashida is an abomination

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Which is no good

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That really, that's really not good

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No, and then he goes back to the press conference

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But if you've actually watched the actual press conference

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You will know that what he is doing is intentionally misleading

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They cut out something that gives what he's saying important context

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This woman is an abomination

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Let's continue

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To participate in military occupation

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They also desperately want peace and self-determination for their Palestinian neighbors

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They could have shed light into injustice

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You know, all the Muslims do is blow each other up

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Let's continue

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So here, let's continue after that sentence

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At the beginning of where they started that audio

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She says people forced to engage in military activities

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What's right before that, if you listen to her actual press conference

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Is a description of how she's going on this fact-finding mission

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Where she's going to meet with Israeli veterans

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That's who she's referring to in that clip

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Alex deprives that of context

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Muslim Israeli veterans, Dan

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Okay

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Done

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Alex deprives that clip of context

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Because it runs entirely counter

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To what the presentation of this press conference is

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She's only going to Palestine and there's only Muslims at Palestine

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And you know what, they're not even Palestinians

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Because that's not even a thing

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They're just all Muslims

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He's trying to present the idea that she's going over there

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And only going to be talking to Palestinian people

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Who may or may not already be suicide bombers

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Whatever, who cares

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They want to destroy Israel

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When in reality there were a bunch of different groups

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That she and Omar and others were going to go and meet up with

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Of course

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And if you allow that reality to be presented

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You ruin the perception that you've created

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Right

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And Alex is interested in the narrative, not the truth

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Which I'm sure is also one of the reasons

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That they were blocked from entering Israel

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Possibly

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Netanyahu definitely doesn't want to have them

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Being associated with Israel in a positive way at all

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I would assume not

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So in this next clip, Alex

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I mean, the whole purpose of this

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Is to inoculate the audience from empathy

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Yeah

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And from accepting in any way these arguments

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And these points that are being brought up

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This next clip is primarily about the

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Making sure no one feels anything for these people

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The delegation would have seen firsthand

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Why walls are destructive, not productive

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They could have asked the people in Bethlehem

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How walls cut people off away from economic opportunities

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From a way to live

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Again, let's stop right there

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I can't listen to much more of this

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Now let's talk about her grandmother and the birdcage

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This is really, really, really acute

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Again, ladies and gentlemen

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This is all to manipulate your heartstrings

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Ah, there it is

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It's all just to manipulate your heartstrings

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You can't believe anything

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No

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Mr. Gorbachev, I'm loving that wall

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Keep it going

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More or less

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So, we're done with the press conference business

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But, man, for this next clip, Jordan

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I want you to remember that Alex Jones

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His big enemy is the New World Order

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Sure

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That's important because

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Whites are only 9% of the world's population

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And let's just say it

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Everybody's trying to get in our countries

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And there's a simple reason

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We got Christianity

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We were living, you know, in the trees and in the caves

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Like the new black Israelites like to joke

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And it's true

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I mean, had high IQs, smart people

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But we were living like savages like in Africa

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Because we were not Christian

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The minute we got it, we went straight to the moon

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And, you know, what's what we need is

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Like got milk, got Jesus

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That's what produces success

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And that's what's gonna unify the planet together under Christ

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It's the only way we're not gonna destroy ourselves

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Doesn't mean we're gonna force you to serve Christ

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Christ doesn't do that

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The door's always open

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The way is Jesus of Nazareth

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That is the global unification

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The Antichrist will have his counterfeit first

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Then we will have the true global unification

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World order under Jesus Christ

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Stay with us, we'll be right back

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So, Alex is working towards a one-world government

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Under Christian rule

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That's the only problem with the work of the world order

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Is that it's not his

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I cannot think of anything that has suppressed knowledge

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More than Christianity

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I don't know about that

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I literally just don't know

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I think maybe

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It's certainly in the running

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Also, there's, you know, some issues about

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If that's the case

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If Christianity is the only thing that made things work out

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There's a lot of periods of history

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That you're gonna have to come up with explanations for

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They invented algebra, right?

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I'm pretty sure the Christians did that

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Sure

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I'm gonna go with

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Oh, rocket science was invented by Christians

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It's not even that

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It's not even that angle that I'm coming at this from

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I'm saying that

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He's saying that we got Christianity and it was straight to the moon

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Christianity wasn't invented in the 1950s

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There was a long period

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I think he was using a metaphorical

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I understand that

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But even within that metaphor

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There's a lot of periods of time

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Where there was not a lot of great innovation

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There was a lot of darkness

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Let's say in some ages

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That you kinda gotta make sense of

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And you gotta come up with an explanation

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For why the Christian operating system

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As he's describing it

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Wasn't taking everyone to the moon

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Well, it just makes me laugh

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Because the bedrock of mathematics

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Was made by his enemies

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Sure

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As well as the technology itself necessary to go to the moon

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Was made by paganist weirdos

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And his greatest enemies

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The Chinese created his favorite thing, the gun

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So

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No, I believe it was Christianity

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Probably

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Probably Christian Chinese

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So, I mean like

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The biggest point is

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What he's saying there

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Is entirely just a

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I want a Christian world order

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I want a unified one world Christian order

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Now, also

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His bullshit about we won't force you

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To

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Worship Jesus

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Now, sure, that's all good and well

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In his theory of it

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But let's say that there is a Christian world order

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That comes into power

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How is the experience of being a Muslim

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In that circumstance

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Going to be?

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The best case scenario

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What Alex is asking for

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Is a tolerant

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World order

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That is entirely run

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By Christianity

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And that's not

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That isn't a good situation

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Well

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It's a benevolent

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World dictatorship

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In his conception

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I mean, it's simply not possible

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Well, it's not, but in his conception

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Right

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Man, that's

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Real stupid

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Especially for someone like him to say

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Yeah, that's a little bit

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Too much

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I think you should probably bail

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I think you should call it

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I'm thinking that this might also be something that he's now

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Having to do because of Trump

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Well, Trump is now the chosen one

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So he has to

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Sure, and he's already

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Indicated that he wants him to buy Greenland

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Indicating a move towards expansionism

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And making

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An empire of America

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Well, and as far as the one-world

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Government goes, he's always been against the UN

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But now he's talking about how

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A resurgence of nationalism

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Is globally bringing people together

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Right, I mean

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It's not a far jump

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From his rhetoric

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Now to the exact

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Opposite of what he's

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Based his existence on

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Just, we're doing it

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Which shouldn't surprise anyone

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This would have surprised me a year ago

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If I'd heard this

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But now, from the last year of all the

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Invalidations and all of it being like

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Oh, his principles are conditional

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Of course the new world order is a conditional

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Thing too, of course it is

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Right, he has nothing

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He doesn't believe anything except

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Defending masculinity, Christianity

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Whiteness, and the power

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Hierarchies that are implied within those things

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That is it

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Yep

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Anyway, I think we're done here

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We have one last clip

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And that is Alex taking a caller

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He gets some calls

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And one of them wants to bring up

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This Trump being the chosen one

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And I include this

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I include this to be

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A little bit of a taste of

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How Alex's listeners

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Are interacting with this development

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And it doesn't seem good

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He's always been Christian

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As a traditionalist

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But not really, you know

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He has had conversations with me

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About the energy

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At churches and black churches particularly

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We're talking about energy in crowds

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That's the kind of

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Me and Trump hook up, you know what I mean

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On the same wavelength, and it's all about energy

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You see

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And Trump's into it, and Trump loves Jesus

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Here, let's go ahead and

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I'll go to your call, Doug, thanks for holding

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From Connecticut

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Good, what do you want to chime in on about

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Beto and message to Trump, chosen one

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Comment

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Well, I'll start with Trump, I haven't seen Trump yet

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Make a comment that

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Is stupid, I guess would be the word

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Because he

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What about the time that he

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Said Toledo after the Dayton shooting

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That wasn't stupid, that was

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Right on

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He puts the comments out and then the left

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Rolls with it and they make fools of themselves

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So if you can't

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See that Trump is doing

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Christ-like things

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For this country and the world

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If you can't see the opposite side of evil

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Out there, you're not looking in the right place

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So, by Alex's

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Rhetoric being so

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Insistent that the other side

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Are devils and demons

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He has, on some

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Level, prepared his audience for

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The one who's fighting them is

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The second coming of God

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This is not a difficult

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Leap for him to make

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What seemed like probably

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Would be difficult for Alex to

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Rationalize, is

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Hop, skip, and a jump from where he already

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Was, and there's no

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Stakes to it for him

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To just make this a piece

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Of like, yeah, of course, of course he's

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God's chosen one

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It's insane, we are so far past

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Any point of acceptability

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No, this is like

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Are there a group of people who are just

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Trying to make everything

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In the book of Revelations actually happen

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Feels like it

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Because even reading it

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I was like, there's no way

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I remember specifically

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Reading the book of Revelations

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When I was like 11 and thinking

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There is no way

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Unless some sort of godly

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Hypnosis that the Christian

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Church would ever follow the

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Antichrist willingly

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It must be a setup

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And I will be god-damned, Dan

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Like, zero effort

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It should be harder

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Eh, it's weird

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It should be harder

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I'm not going to ascribe any kind of

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Thing like that to this

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Oh, I'm going to go with simulation for sure

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I'm alright with you doing that

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And I think that our positions can coexist

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I just think that this is

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Like Alex

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Recognizing that this is an advantageous

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Way for the rhetoric that he

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Already believes in and pushes to

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Take its final form

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Take its real form

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No, it's almost inevitable as a

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You know, late stage form of

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Propaganda at this level

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Yeah, it's, you know, you get what

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You wanted, it's not what you wanted

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And you have some people who jump

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Ship and are like, well, we

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Gotta get back to decency

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We gotta get back to, we gotta find, conservatism

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Has lost its way

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And that's the scam that they go with

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And then some people like Alex

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It's not really about, he was never

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A Republican to begin with

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He was never really into the GOP

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He was never into politics

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Particularly, he's into

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What he's into

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A Christian theocracy

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And this is achievable in his mind through Trump

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If things get even worse

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So why wouldn't he encourage the worst parts of this

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It makes sense

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In a very twisted way

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But only if you look at Alex through the prism

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That we've come to understand him in

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And that's, I mean

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And it's almost a Hegelian dialectic

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I don't know

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I'm not even going to allow you to say that

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Exacerbating the same circumstances

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That are going to then lead to

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Something that you can exploit

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To create the Christian theocracy that you want

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Maybe, I don't know

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Whatever it is, it's not good

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Shit's getting bad

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It's real bad

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I don't know what the future's going to bring for Alex

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But it won't be good

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I should say that

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Right after that caller

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Alex did say that Zach Voorhees

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Was coming back

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And that Vox Dei was going to be joining him

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And I said, no thank you

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We've already got too much

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Behind us

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I wasn't going to, I don't care

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Whatever they were going to talk about

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Was going to be some Zog shit

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No interest

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That did exist there

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Just to give a little

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Anyway, we'll be back on Monday

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We will, you know, I think the most worrying thing

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Is that we'll be back on Monday

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Is that we might not be

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No, it's that

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Shouldn't we have laughed

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Him off the stage

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The moment he said, I'm the chosen one

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That's hilarious

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Instead we're at a place now where that's the most

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Worrying thing I can think of

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You know

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Three years ago, maybe you could have laughed him off the stage

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Hilarious, hilarious

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It's very real

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Very real and very terrifying

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And laughing at it would be dangerous

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Oh yeah, no, we're all

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We're all fucked

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It's hilarious

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And the further thing is like, I mean

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This is just a

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You know

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A reminder

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As this is okay

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There's really nowhere

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What's next

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There's really nowhere that you can go

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No consequences for saying that

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Jewish people who vote for Democrats

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Are disloyal to Israel

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Where is a line

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Where is there a line

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You have a president who's regurgitating protocol shit

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Where is the line

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We're past it

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We're past it, no

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That's what we've learned

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Anyways, we'll be back on Monday

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We have a website, knowledgefight.com

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We do, we're on Twitter

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It's at knowledge underscore fight

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We are

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Yes, currently

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For now

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I imagine he will be kicked off

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Before we ever are

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So if you wanted to listen

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To our show though, you could go to iTunes

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You could download it

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You could leave a review

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That would be nice

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People like to say nice things about us

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You could also go to your local

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CVS

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Ask them for a pack of cigarettes

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We don't sell them anymore

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But that's the secret code

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And then they'll give you an episode

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Also thanks to everybody who has

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Sent pictures of crunchy bars

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Confirming my

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Assertion that they are the best candy bar in the world

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They're pretty good

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I've tried one before

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When I was in London

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You responded to my

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Bringing it up with confusion

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Which is why I assumed you never had one

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I didn't know what it looked like

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But once they put

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The pictures up I thought it was good

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If anyone has tried one of those

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Jelly tots

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It grew on me

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Did you finish it?

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It wasn't as bad

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As I chewed strategically

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You ate a white chocolate candy bar

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With jelly tots

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You couldn't over commit to the jelly

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In the middle of it

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You had to dance around it

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I have strategies

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I'm Neo, I'm Leo

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I'm the Jesus Lizard