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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around,
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drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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Have you ever worn glasses?
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Yes, I have. As a youth, I wore glasses all the time. When I was born, I had a bunch of eye
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surgeries when I was really young. And I have a cross eye that remains to this day. But my vision
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was way worse when I was a wee boy.
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You had a bunch of eye surgeries?
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Oh, yeah.
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For the cross eye or for something else?
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I think that was part of it. You know what? I've never gotten a fully straight answer on it.
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What?
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To be fair, I haven't sought a fully straight answer.
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Okay.
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I just know that when I was very young, I had multiple eye surgeries.
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Uh-huh.
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And I can see fine, but I wore glasses until middle school, junior high, somewhere in there.
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And then I realized that my vision wasn't super changed by wearing the glasses and not,
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but that when I wore the glasses, it made my eyes appear less crossed.
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Okay.
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And I realized it was kind of just a cosmetic thing.
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Okay. Okay.
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And so I talked to my eye doctor and I was like,
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I don't think I want to wear these anymore. People keep making fun of me.
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Yeah. And your doctor was like, you're a nerd.
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I keep breaking them too. They're expensive. My parents are poor.
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There's nothing. It's no good. And the guy was like, yeah,
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they're probably not going to do much for you. So I just decided to go with that.
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Well then what the fuck did you give them to me in the first place?
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Why didn't I give them to you?
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No, no, no, no, no. I meant you saying that to the doctor.
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Because they probably did it a lot when I was younger.
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When you were younger.
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They probably helped a great deal, but then my eyes grew.
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Right. Right. Right.
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The problem fixed. Or the eye surgeries worked.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Or you're actually blind right now and you have no idea.
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You don't even have a point of comparison.
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I couldn't prove it.
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This is just your way of trying to announce to the audience that you got glasses.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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We were talking for compliments.
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No, I was not. We were talking about it for a short minute before the show started.
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And then my entire head was cleared of everything.
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When I was about to ask you a question, I was like, I don't, what?
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What are things?
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I had another, uh, glasses.
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Ooh.
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Yeah, Kaiser Sose.
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I just looked around for something on your walls and I was like, yeah.
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I saw the glasses right in front of your eyes.
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Exactly.
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Okay.
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I kind of miss it.
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If I had a choice or if it were something that I didn't feel was just cosmetic,
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I would probably go back and get glasses.
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I like it.
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I think they look good on a head generally.
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Yeah.
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They look good on a head.
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Yep.
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Almost as good as on that ass, right?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Got that ass glasses.
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So, uh, Jordan, today, uh, there's a, well, there's a podcast where I know a lot about
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Alex Jones.
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I used to wear glasses.
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And I only know what you're telling me about the first and wear the second now all the
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time.
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Congrats.
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Uh, this episode today, Jordan, we are going to be in the present day cause a lot is going
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on in Alex Jones's life.
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And I get the sense that probably by the time this episode comes out, he will have done
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more bullshit in the present day.
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So, uh, sorry if this isn't up to the minute.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today we're going to be going over June 10th and 11th, 2019, which is Monday
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and Tuesday of this week.
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And man, oh man, what a, what a time it was.
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This episode, when I was getting it ready, when I was preparing, when I was listening,
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I thought it was going in one direction and it definitely did.
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Okay.
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And then it became something entirely different.
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That sounds right.
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It's a roller coaster ride.
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So strap it in and get ready.
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Some of it is unpleasant.
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Some of it is completely absurd and some of it is deeply esoteric.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I like that.
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So there's a grab bag, a mixture of something for everybody, except for one very specific
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person that is mentioned in this out of context drop from today's show.
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I'll just be honest.
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I love my daughters more than my son.
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Ooh, that's rough.
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You never like to hear a parent say that.
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Oh man.
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I guess I also that coming from Alex, that means Rex is not masculine enough.
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It feels like it might be.
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That's that's that sounds like, because Alex would be the guy who's like, I need a son.
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Yeah.
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I need the son of my dreams.
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And Rex is just a, not, not that guy.
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I don't want to psychoanalyze any of that stuff other than to say like, that could do
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damage to a child.
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Like hearing their parent on the radio.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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National radio, rate his love.
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That's so good.
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That's bad.
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He could have just said, I'm a psychopath.
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I mean, he kind of did.
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Yeah.
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But you know, there's a group of people, for whom my love, I cannot rate, it's all equal
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amongst them.
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Actually, I feel like the difference in a monetary amount does influence.
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No, not at all.
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Nope.
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Okay.
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Nope.
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The walks and the, the technocrats all share the same positive feelings from me.
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And that is why we need to take a moment now before we begin this episode to do a little
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before we begin this episode to say thank you to some people who have signed up and are
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supporting the show.
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First of all, Gabriel, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Gabriel.
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Next, Ed, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Ed.
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That's right.
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That TV show Ed is now supporting.
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Is now supporting the show?
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No, that's probably not what it is.
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Next, King Yam.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much, King Yam.
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Thank you very much.
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Then we got The Lost Minds of Solomon Grundy.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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The Lost Minds of Solomon Grundy.
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Feel free to repeat the entire thing on your own.
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Finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level.
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We really appreciate it.
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This person, actually, I've had the pleasure of speaking a little bit with recently about
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my fantasies of living in an RV.
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So thank you so much.
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Mickey, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Mickey.
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Thank you very much, Mickey.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like this show, I'd like to support
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what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com.
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There's a button that says support the show.
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We would appreciate it.
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It would be wonderful.
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Ah, Jordan.
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Now I can just think about you being on an episode of Fantasy Island and they're just
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like, OK, here's an RV, I guess.
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La, la, la.
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How would that go bad, though?
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I run out of gas?
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I suppose.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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No episode of Fantasy Island goes well.
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I think that's the point.
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Yeah.
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It's supposed to be heaven, but it turns out it's hell.
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You want this thing and then Ricardo Montalban is going to teach you that you're a dick.
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You didn't want that thing.
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From hell's heart, he stabs a thing.
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You want to be famous?
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No, you don't.
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No, you don't.
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Back when I was in college, that was on like Hulu, like the entire show.
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And I had to do like a final, like I had to write a paper for something.
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And I kept being like, I'll get to the final later.
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I got Fantasy Island to watch.
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I literally used it.
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Fantasy Island?
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Yeah, I used it as an excuse not to write a term paper.
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And I assume this was in the 70s, right?
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No, no, no, no.
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This was more recent than the...
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Repeats!
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I watched the entire season, finished the term paper, or the whole series.
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Yeah.
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Finished the term paper, got an A on it.
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I don't know how I did it.
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That was your Fantasy Island.
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I engaged in what I called improvisational academics for a large part of my college career.
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I like it.
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Yeah, a lot of stuff was just winging it.
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A lot of stuff was just, hey, can I get a suggestion?
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Can I get a place from the audience?
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And then you wrote a paper.
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Yeah, let's see if this flies.
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Yeah.
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At least in the classes that I wasn't interested in.
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Because anytime you're in college, high school, any of it, there's going to be a lot of stuff
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you just have to do.
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Yeah.
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That stuff I found, I can bluff real easily.
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But today, Jordan, we're going to start on June 10th.
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And hey, guess what?
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We have a really familiar guest leading things off on Alex's show.
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We're also going to have two of my lawyers on with the Pepe the Frog case.
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I can give you the exclusive on that.
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That has settled as of right now, as of just minutes ago.
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InfoWars.com will have the global exclusive.
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The next 10 minutes, Paul Watson's writing an article about it.
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Love statement by Robert Barnes, and he'll be popping in the Mark Rondazza as well at
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the bottom of the hour.
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Big victory on that front.
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Word is they spent a million three hundred thousand against us.
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They spent a hundred thousand fighting them.
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So Alex is declaring victory and the lawsuit that was brought against him by Pepe the Frog
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creator, Matt Fury.
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Of course.
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Yeah, of course.
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I mean, this is a very predictable turn of events.
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Also very predictable that Robert Barnes would show up again.
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Of course.
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This show is turning into Alex having like conference calls with his lawyers.
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Yeah.
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Doesn't that seem weird?
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It is very weird.
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Also, when they lose the lawsuit, doesn't that mean they have to pay the legal fees
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of the plaintiffs?
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Plaintiff?
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Not necessarily.
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Oh, they did settle.
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They didn't.
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Yeah, it wasn't a loss, but there were stipulations about it.
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And we'll get to some of that here in a little bit.
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And also, Alex is saying that that Matt Fury had to pay a million dollars in legal fees
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for this case.
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I really doubt that.
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I wonder where he's getting that information from.
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Probably Barnes.
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I wonder if we're going to find out later.
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Anyway, Barnes and Rondazza are coming up later.
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So we'll get to them here in a minute.
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But before we do, Alex did something on this episode that I thought was really interesting.
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And I'd only know about it if I'd listened to fucking thousands of hours of his show.
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Yeah.
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And it is that he brought back the fear that he has about the Muslim women at a pool supply
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shop.
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He brought that back?
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Well, not specifically.
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Oh, okay.
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He used that same structure of seeing people of various classes of types of people in places
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he doesn't want to see them as a justification for a lot of his we'll just call it white
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nationalist position.
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Yeah, here he goes again.
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I went to a dental office yesterday.
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That's closed on Sundays, but that my dad owns a piece of what he's a dentist and he
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was going to fix a cracked tooth.
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And I get there, this is a place I've been going to for 10 years in South Austin.
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And it looked like Guatemala.
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These were not Mexicans.
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These were people in traditional Indian Guatemalan.
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And I saw Peruvians.
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And again, nothing against these poor people.
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But I mean, you know what a Guatemalan looks like, you know what a Peruvian looks like.
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And I was like, holy Toledo, because I've been in some of these countries.
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I mean, you know, I've watched PBS.
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I know there were women running around in Indian dresses all over the place and parties
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in the parking lot and just total insane asylum.
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I was looking at the license plates.
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These people didn't even have license plates, a bunch of them.
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They just do whatever the hell they want.
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That story is convoluted.
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So Central and South Americans are tailgating somebody's dental practice?
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Yeah.
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I don't know how much of that I can take as like actual fact reporting.
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But what I can take is a sense of it.
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And the sense that I get is Alex is not enjoying the way people are dressed or are acting.
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It seems like it.
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Central and South American people are acting and dressed in ways I disapprove of.
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Also, my dad owns a piece of a dental practice that I get the hookup at.
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Yeah.
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Fixing a crack tooth.
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I saw people who were from Central and South America wearing clothes different from me.
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So I got to tell you about it because they're not supposed to be.
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And that's fucked up.
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That's fucked up.
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That's fucked up.
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They're wearing clothes different from me.
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I mean, it's totally the same thing.
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I went to a pool supply store.
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I saw Muslim women wearing a hijab and I thought, oh, no, hey, I went to a dental office and
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some people were having fun in the parking lot and this is an invasion.
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Absolutely.
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They're coming from all over the place.
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To that I just say, grow up.
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Yeah.
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To that I say there's literally a sentence about what you're doing that everyone says
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when you do this, don't judge a book by its cover.
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That's one thing like the white nationalists always have one immediate visual thing and
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then they can extrapolate all of that into why Central and South Americans are awful.
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So it's like you're wearing different clothes.
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Here's everything that you fucked up in your entire history or whatever.
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Like what is he advocating for?
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Like he doesn't have any proof that these were their cars.
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He doesn't have any proof that like maybe they didn't just buy the car and they don't
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have the plates yet.
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He has no reason to suspect that like, aha, they get away with not having plates.
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Yeah.
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Like so that gets thrown out the window.
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Now what are the other complaints?
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I don't like this native dress.
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So what do you want to do?
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Regulate their clothes?
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You want to make uniforms for non-white people?
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I want the government to make uniforms for non-white people.
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Are you saying that they shouldn't be able to have fun in a parking lot?
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Absolutely.
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What is the problem here?
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The problem is the behavior and dress of non-white people.
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That's all it is.
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That's all that is.
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Yep.
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But according to Alex, South Austin has become a third world country.
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Sure.
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Which great.
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But meanwhile, I go over to a place that was a nice area of South Austin.
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Wasn't a rich area, but it was a nice area.
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And everything over the last few years looks like hell.
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The sidewalks are all filthy and dirty.
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And there's a dirty diaper over here and trash cans overflowing and just the collapse of
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civilization.
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And we're not helping them from the third world.
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We're becoming the third world folks.
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So his argument essentially boils down to like these immigrants that are coming in have
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turned South Austin into a third world country.
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Right.
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And to that, I mean, the examples that he's using, like a dirty diaper, trash, like, do
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you think that immigrants are the only people who litter?
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Because I got bad news for you about every city.
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Pretty sure it's only...
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Do you think there's no littering in rural areas?
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No, I've never seen any littering in rural areas.
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Do you, like, what is, again, what is the complaint?
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Uh, stuff is a little bit dirty.
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Okay, clean up then.
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Yeah.
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Did you do anything to help clean up?
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Why don't you organize a citizens group with those sticks that are really sharp that you
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can poke trash with?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Why don't you do that?
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Or advocate for a fucking soda tax so they have the money to repair those fucking sidewalks.
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Why don't you just, yeah, why don't you look at the problem and find a solution as opposed
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to finding someone to blame for it?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's too difficult.
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So Alex gets into a lot of that.
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He's in a lot of that headspace early on, but then Barnes comes along with Mark Rondaza
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and they have, they get into the lawsuit and Alex is really deeply invested in trying to
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present the position that he won and that they won and all that to the point where he
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gets a little bit mad at Paul Joseph Watson because his headline that he wrote didn't
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highlight that enough.
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Paul Joseph Watson put the blurb out.
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Info Wars settles, the frog lawsuit pays tiny settlement to creator Matt Fury.
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You know, I told Paul the headline was in major strategic victory was a sub headline,
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but Paul does what he wants.
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We'll probably change the headline.
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Okay.
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Well, you contradicted yourself there.
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Paul does what he wants.
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I told him what to do.
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He didn't do it.
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We're going to change it.
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Okay, man.
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A lot of, a lot of freedom of expression over there at Info Wars.
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So, I mean, that's the presentation that Alex wants.
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Major strategic victory.
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We nailed this thing.
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So earlier, Alex said he had to pay a million something dollars and all he got was this
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15,000 and you very correctly predicted that that information is just bullshit that Robert
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Barnes is guessing about.
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It would not surprise me at all if they spent over a million dollars in legal fees,
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prosecuting this case.
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It would not surprise me.
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That's a guess.
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That is, that is Barnes going off of the rates that he's charged at Alex and Alex is like,
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yeah, of course it's a million dollars.
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That's a regular amount of money to spend on a lawyer.
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Or just what he assumes.
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Like, he's like, oh, this is a big law firm.
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They must be charging him that much.
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Maybe not.
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Maybe they're working pro bono.
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Maybe there's a sliding scale.
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Maybe they're interested in the case and they're like, fuck it, we'll do this.
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Maybe they just hate Barnes.
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Right.
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Maybe they hate Alex.
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Yeah.
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So what's going on with the lawsuit and what Alex is doing with it and trying to claim
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strategic victory, it's a really complicated game of who won what that's going on.
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And honestly, it's kind of easy to see how both sides can reasonably claim to have gotten
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what they want out of it.
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It seems like a rare instance of a high profile civil case kind of reaching a decent conclusion.
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Like everyone wins, except in this case, one party is going to lie and pretend that they
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unilaterally won, which is Alex.
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Yeah.
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In the past months, Alex has been screaming about how he's not going to settle that lawsuit.
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He's going to fight it.
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He's gone on and on about how Pepe creator Matt Fury tried to settle initially for a
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small undisclosed amount, but Alex said no on principle.
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If I know anything about Alex, it's that he doesn't do courtrooms unless he has to or
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unless he's in some kind of position where his business is specifically off limits and
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he has the opportunity to grandstand and use the court as a bully pulpit.
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So I knew that that principle stuff was bullshit, users putting on a brave face because he wasn't
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sure what he was on the hook for and what he could be liable to end up paying.
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Fury probably initially offered a really high settlement that Alex knew he couldn't pay.
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Alex bravely promised to fight the suit, which helped him raise money for his legal battle.
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And then when it became clear that the most Fury was going to win if he went to trial
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was $14,000, Alex gladly paid the settlement of $15,000 to end the case.
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If he thought he possibly could win and the most he could lose was $14,000, it makes no
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sense for him to settle for a higher amount, especially given his previous behavior, unless
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something about discovery could be a problem.
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That $15,000 is a payoff for him not to have to disclose his financial information in discovery.
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Alex gets out of the lawsuit without being forced to show his internal workings.
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So no matter what, it's a huge win.
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That's great for him.
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I'm happy for him.
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And as for Fury, he didn't want the lawsuit to get rich.
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He wanted Alex and people like Alex to stop using his work to promote a message he opposed.
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And he got that in the settlement too.
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The reason this became a lawsuit is because Infowars refused to honor a cease and desist
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request from him to stop selling their poster with Pepe on it.
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If they'd just stopped, there wouldn't ever have been a lawsuit.
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And here in the settlement, they agreed to put a freeze on sales and destroy all copies
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of the poster that they still have in stock.
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That's essentially what Fury wanted all along, and he got it.
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Infowars is no longer using the character.
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And if they do it again, he could use this settlement against them.
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It's kind of a bummer that Alex can't just be an adult and say that they made a mistake
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and ultimately they reached a conclusion both sides are happy with.
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That's not Alex's game because he is a big old adult baby and can't behave that way.
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He has to claim victory in every instance, lest he lose some sort of appearance of machismo.
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Yeah.
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And one other, which is why Rex is his least favorite.
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Yeah.
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Rex wouldn't fight this lawsuit.
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Rex would have been like, hey, you know what?
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You're right.
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We stole that.
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Actually, here's a thousand bucks just for your travels.
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Let's get on.
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No, no, no.
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About that thousand.
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That's a little thing that's missing from a lot of the coverage of this.
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The reason that settlement was higher than the 14,000 that Matt Fury could have won in
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court is he was kind of trolling Alex.
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The 14,000 was the amount that the court deemed that Alex made off selling the poster.
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So it was the ceiling of damages that Matt Fury could look for.
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The settlement is for 15,000.
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That extra thousand there is a donation that he forced Alex to make to a charity called
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Save the Frogs, which seems kind of like poking fun at the guy who yells all the time about
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how they're turning the frogs gay.
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It's kind of trolling.
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That's pretty funny.
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That's a nice little turn of the screw on that one.
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It really seems like that's probably just to fuck with Alex.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I would guess.
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So Robert Barnes is on and they're, you know, stealing victory from the jaws of defeat and
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they're having a great time.
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But you may have mentioned or heard me mention that Mark Runtaza is also there.
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Yeah, what's he doing?
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He is being a real dick.
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To Alex or to Barnes?
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In general.
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Or to everyone?
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I'm just the world.
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Okay.
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So Barnes is presenting this like, you know, it was a strategic victory.
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We've sent the message that if you want to sue Infowars, you can spend a million dollars
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to get 10,000 back.
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Right.
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It's a terrible return on your investment.
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And we did this intentionally.
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It was all a plan in order to create the appearance that if you come against us, this is what
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happens.
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You get financially decimated by trying to hurt us.
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Sure.
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That's a good play for Barnes.
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Oh, for sure.
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Now Mark Runtaza just seems sick of the shit and wants to insult Fury and the entire legal
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process, kind of.
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I like it.
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But in the way he does it, he invalidates a lot of the ways that Alex tries to present
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himself.
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And the first one, it really invalidates all of Alex's ideas about being upper middle class
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and, like, living a restrained lifestyle.
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And I put all my money back into the operation.
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Sure.
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This is very much like, we're fucking rich, man.
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I don't give a fuck about $15,000.
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The amount that you wound up paying them for a licensing fee.
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I mean, when we were calculating what it would have cost for your first class flight to LA,
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the kind of hotels that we like to stay in and the kind of meals we like to eat.
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I think our bar tab would have been more than that in LA just for the week.
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So that's fucked up.
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That's hilarious.
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That's revealing to the audience a little bit of the internal workings of, like, I dropped
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$15,000 at the bar.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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That's not how Alex likes to pretend he behaves.
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No.
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And he does respond to it like, I stay at holiday and select.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Let Ronda fucking give it up if he needs to.
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Well, I mean, Alex tries to push back a tiny bit like that.
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He's like, you know, I stay at holiday and select, but then Ronda won't stop.
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This amount that you settled this for.
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I mean, that's a bar tab and a topless club, you know, for one good night.
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So that invalidates the same sort of, uh, we spend money like crazy thing.
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And then also, isn't Alex supposed to be a Christian guy?
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Isn't he supposed to be a good family man and into a, into all this like conservatism?
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Like I spend $15,000 at a strip club.
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Didn't you know he's an Atlanta hip hop icon?
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Ronda's goes to the one tweezy hanging out with the ying yang twins.
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Uh, yeah, perhaps.
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So I had a little part on Stankonia actually.
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He had one verse, the artificial member of the dungeon family.
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Mark Ronda.
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Um, if you recall, uh, Jordan, I recently suggested that Robert Barnes was trying to
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make a name for himself as the lawyer of choice for the right wing dumb dumb free speech grifters
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of the world, the Cassandra Fairbanks is the Chuck Johnson's the Alex Jones is these people
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that he's taken on as clients.
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Uh, recently there's a clear pattern that applies intent, uh, in, in this work.
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Uh, and if, if, uh, if I was accurate in that at all, then this episode here with Mark Ronda
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and Robert Barnes together is kind of a passing of the baton.
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In some ways, Mark Ronda was Alex's lawyer and had tried to represent him in the Sandy
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Hook trial, but the judge in that case rejected his request to be Alex's lawyer, citing concerns
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about past quote, serious misconduct.
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Ronda is not licensed to practice in Connecticut.
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And so he had applied to be an out of state counsel for Alex, which is often accepted
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just as a matter of formality.
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You're a lawyer.
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Come on, get on in here.
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But it wasn't for him probably because he's shady as fuck since he couldn't be Alex's
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lawyer.
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Alex needed a replacement in steps.
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Robert Barnes, in the name of defending free speech, Ronda took on Andrew Anglin of the
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Daily Stormer as a client, as well as white nationalist, Paul Neelan, white supremacist
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hero, Jared Taylor, Mike Cernovich, Richard Spencer's booking agent, and Gab, the website
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where people too fucked up for Twitter end up.
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Beyond that, Mark Ronda is a completely unethical fraud of a lawyer.
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He used to be the in-house attorney for a porn company called Liberty Media Holdings.
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Part of his job was to issue takedown notices to streaming tube sites.
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But in his capacity as Liberty's lawyer, he misrepresented himself to the targets of these
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lawsuits as being outside counsel and then tried to solicit bribes from them to get them
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not to pursue legal action.
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He told the lawyer for the website TNA Flicks, quote, there needs to be a little gravy for
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me.
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And it has to be more than the 5,000 you were talking about before.
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I'm looking for the cost of at least a new Carrera in retainer deposits after circulating
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around the Adult Entertainment Expo this weekend.
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I'm going to want at least used BMW money.
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You shouldn't say that aloud.
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Right.
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You should say very different things that amount to the same thing.
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You should not say the part where you're like, excuse me, sir, I would like you to bribe
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me.
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Yeah.
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That's not a good way to go.
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Yeah.
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He was trying to be like, well, you know, if we have some sort of financial arrangement,
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then I can't possibly pursue this action against you because it would be unethical of me to
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even even though he was working for the other people.
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So he was trying to play both sides 100 percent.
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What an asshole.
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Yeah, he's the worst.
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He thought he was so brilliant, too.
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He probably thought he made up that scam.
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Yep.
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Oh, he was later working on a settlement with Oran, a file sharing company, again, on behalf
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of Liberty.
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Liberty was looking for five hundred fifty thousand dollars, and Ronda's a told Oran if they paid him seventy five thousand dollars, he would, quote, never be able to sue them forever and ever.
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Eventually, Liberty would get wise to mark shit and cease relations with him.
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That led to Mark suing them for wrongful termination and a slew of other charges seeking four million dollars.
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And then he lost heart was a huge mistake.
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Yeah.
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And Liberty countersued for all the shady shit he'd done while working for them and ended up being awarded six hundred thousand dollars in damages from him.
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The arbiter in that case found that Mark had, quote, been involved in and successfully concluded negotiations for a bribe, which lawyers are not supposed to do.
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After all this, it should make a lot more sense why he ended up being the favored lawyer of Nazis and white nationalist scam artists.
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He had nowhere else to go.
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Yeah, he had nowhere else to go.
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Yeah, his original hustle is obviously better and paid more, but it blew up in his face.
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And now no one who needs a legitimate lawyer is going to hire him ever.
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But you know who definitely doesn't want a legitimate lawyer?
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Scammers.
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People like Alex Jones.
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Gab does not want a fucking ethical lawyer at all.
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No.
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And so Alex, you know, obviously he's the kind of guy that Alex would want representing him, but he kind of like went too far and like, oh, shit.
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Connecticut won't let you be my lawyer.
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I got to get Barnes.
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And that's the only reason we fucking know who Barnes is.
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Right.
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So Jesus.
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Yeah.
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So Mark Rondaza is I don't think he's even Alex's lawyer anymore.
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And he but he's on.
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What's he doing as a guest?
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He doesn't seem to want to be there.
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No, it sounds like he really doesn't want to be there.
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He's just talking about spending $50,000 at strip clubs, kind of undercutting a lot of the point that Alex tries to make in his victimhood narrative.
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But whatever.
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So Alex has learned from this experience of going through with this lawsuit and it ending up him only paying $15,000, that maybe he should always pursue whatever lawsuits come and be an asshole about it.
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And there's a really interesting way that this clip ends.
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And as long as we don't back down, they back us.
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They've been so pissed a few years ago, but I thought I was just standing in apology so I get left alone.
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He's talking about his audience supporting him as long as he doesn't back down.
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And the lawsuit that he's talking about here is the Humdeulakaya lawsuit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I didn't get that.
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It was the setup.
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My audience got it.
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They were pissed at me.
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Well, now I get it.
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Hey, audience, I'm not just physically not surrendering in death before dishonor.
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I get what you're right.
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We're going to raging bull, not back down to anything.
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And that's better.
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I don't even think things through now.
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I can just go with my instincts, be a raging bull.
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And it seems like that's the best way to go.
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Absolutely.
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And this outcome vindicates that.
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Robert Barnes just heard a cash register.
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That cannot be a lawyer's advice to that statement.
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Keep moving forward.
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I'm just going to do whatever I think to do or don't think and never consider what the
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consequences may be before I do them.
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And Barnes is like, hell yes.
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But that's because that's because he's getting billable hours.
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And that's awesome for him.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Alex, you have learned that there are no consequences for your capricious actions.
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Hamdi Ulukaya would have owned your home if you would have acted like that.
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But I would have made so much money if I was your lawyer back then.
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I would have advised you to yell a racial slur at him instead of settling.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That would be something where if Alex wound up suing Barnes, Barnes would be like, I was
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on your show.
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I was not acting in the capacity as your lawyer.
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If we were in my office, one, I would have charged you, two, I would have given you good
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advice.
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Not great that I was still charging you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But yeah, it's a it's a mess.
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So their appearance really just boils down to basically that.
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It's declaring victory.
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Don't do it.
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Do it.
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It's declaring victory obfuscating and Alex's lawyers acting very much not like lawyers.
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So whatever.
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And then Alex starts talking about how much he loves the free market, which is great.
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But he says that he kind of maybe believed too much in it, which is still a good thing,
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but also like maybe a deficiency.
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Not entirely sure.
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It doesn't really matter.
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Gotcha.
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In his rambling about it, he ends up saying something that directly contradicts something
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he said a bunch of times.
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Is that I was in love with free market, in love with America and in love with success
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and in love with thousands of different angles and ideas.
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And I knew that free market wasn't perfect, but it gave you hundreds of medical choices,
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hundreds of education choices, thousands, thousands of choices of everything.
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And then I went to third world countries and I went to communist countries and I witnessed
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it and they'd had two pairs of clothes.
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They didn't have toilet paper to wipe their asses, even though they had 130 IQs on average
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in Russia.
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Some of the highest IQs in the world.
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They couldn't wipe their ass because they were under globalism, a system meant to dominate.
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So he says that he's been to third world countries and communist countries.
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And then the only specific that he gives is Russia.
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And honestly, I don't know what to make of this clip because I know that in service of
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defending himself against these allegations that he's a Russian agent, Alex has routinely
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and aggressively said that he's never been to Russia, but it's a country he'd like to
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go to someday.
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I'm not sure if any of this means anything other than Alex can't keep his story straight
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because it really sounds like he's saying he's been to Russia in that clip.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's almost impossible to hear pronoun reference working any differently in that clip.
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I would bet that he hasn't been to Russia and that clip is just him talking shit and
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pretending he'd been there to strengthen his argument about how free market's great and
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globalism sucks.
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That seems like the simplest explanation.
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However, if he's being honest here and that he has been to Russia, it calls into question
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all the times he said he's never been there.
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And why would he say that he's never been there?
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Because him traveling to Russia doesn't mean he's a Russian agent.
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No, Bernie traveled to Russia on his honeymoon.
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Sure, but Alex says he's a Russian agent.
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See, there you go.
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Isn't that fun how that works?
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So the only way, I don't know, it's interesting to me only in as much as it's an anomaly and
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it doesn't make sense.
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Like, there isn't a real reason to lie if he's lying.
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Yeah.
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Then there's also not a reason to embellish here and imply that you've been to Russia.
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I think he lies for the fun of it now just to see what he can get away with.
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I think he's just lying about everything.
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Or possibly just lost track.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.
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On the advice of my lawyer, I'm not thinking about what I do anymore.
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I'm off the chain, man.
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I think Barnes is cool.
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I definitely don't think Barnes is fucking with me.
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It means I have good discernment.
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That's the word.
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So I thought that was strange, that seeming indication that he's been to Russia when he's
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vociferously said that he hasn't been in the past.
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But it would have probably been like, that's curious.
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But then it was immediately followed up with this.
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So when you hear it's a Russian conspiracy against the New World Order, it's true.
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The Russians don't direct this.
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We don't talk to them.
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The Russians can barely keep their country from the globalist.
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But they were the first in the 20th century.
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In the 21st century, right as the dawn of the new millennium began to throw some of
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the oligarchs off their back.
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And that example, if you let one ant stand up, they might all stand up.
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But America always does it bigger and better, don't we?
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We adopt whatever's successful.
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We do it bigger and better.
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And we saw what Russia did.
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And we saw all the other victories.
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We said we can do it better than that.
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And so I was there betting on that the whole time.
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And along came Donald Trump, a beautiful opportunist.
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What?
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What?
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What does he say?
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Ah, I...
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I'd like you to try and parse that because...
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That seems...
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I can't make heads or tails of it, really.
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Because I don't think that that's a damning indictment in terms of him being like,
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yeah, yeah, I'm in bed with Russians.
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Because, you know, he's like, we don't talk to them.
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No.
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But it does very much imply that he deifies and really idolizes some things about Russia
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that aren't true.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Does he not realize that though they did remove some of the oligarchs...
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That's all he said.
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Some.
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The issue is that oligarchs remain and they have the same amount of power.
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They just split it between fewer people.
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That does seem like a problem.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And also, he is right.
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We do do it bigger and better as our oligarchs are definitely more entrenched in power.
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Yeah.
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Oh, boy.
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And then at the end there, I really wanted to know what he was talking about.
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Because he said, then came Donald Trump.
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A wonderful, beautiful opportunist.
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What does that mean?
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I don't know.
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Does that mean that he did...
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Is he kind of implying that Russia did help?
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It seems like it.
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Specifically?
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It really does seem like Trump saw his opportunity.
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Because what's the opportunism?
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Right?
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Just the state of the country?
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I mean, that's the most benign explanation.
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Or somebody offering a large amount of assistance in order to...
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See, I don't think that the state of the country is something you would describe as being opportunistic.
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Yeah.
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I would see that as being like, insightful of the times or something like that.
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Yeah.
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Because opportunistic has a sneaky connotation to it.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And yeah, I don't know.
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It's implying something real, real fucked up.
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And a beautiful opportunity.
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The problem is that he never explains what he means by it.
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Of course.
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Because he gets sidetracked talking about being an opportunist.
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Oh, so now he's going to implicate himself in some shady shit?
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You bet.
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By the way, I'm an opportunist.
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I'm a trailblazer too, but I'm everything.
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I'm evil too, but good runs my life.
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God's in control of me, but I can see into every avenue.
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And I remember being in high school and some guy's being a jerk to his hot girlfriend.
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Or college, treating her like crap.
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She's leaving the party.
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I'm like, Hey, sweetheart, I'm not going to be mean to you.
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Oh, that's gonna make you feel good.
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No, I'm not bragging like I'm some Casanova.
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I just like girls.
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I'm better today.
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I'm married, got four kids.
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But, you know, I was an opportunist.
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I'm like, buddy, you won't treat her bad because she's so good looking and you got a problem
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and you're upset because whatever you're so jealous, you got a girl that's hot.
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I'm not going to be jealous.
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I'm going to take good care of her.
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So yeah, I'm an opportunist.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That's a being a manipulator.
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Uh, I think that is what he thinks an opportunist is.
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Like he, I think what, if I'm understanding his definition in a, and the way that it applies
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to, to Trump being an opportunist, America is like that super hot girl who is with an
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abusive government.
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Uh, yeah, yeah.
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And Trump steps in and he's like, Hey baby, I am a lot like Alex Jones in that I am not
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that I am lying to you right now.
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And later I will scream at you after fucking you over.
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Yeah.
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It does seem like if that's the, like the analogy that he's making, um, it doesn't look
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good.
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No, it's really, that's really creepy.
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Yeah.
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Why is he telling that story?
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His show is just wall to wall.
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Why are you saying there's so many times that I'm like, Hmm, a better broadcaster would
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have found a better way to express the metaphor that you're hoping to make there without sounding
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like a real creep.
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So like that's real fucking bizarre and strange.
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Yeah.
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Um, and it only spirals even further from there, which again, I think is why he doesn't
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explain what he means by Trump being an opportunist.
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Yeah.
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Cause he just starts like rambling.
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This is just the, this is so weird.
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If they destroy me, I win.
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If I beat them, I win, I don't lose because I'm focused on justice and truth and Americana.
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And I think it's sexy and I'm in love with it.
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And I'm having sex with Americana.
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I'm in love with it.
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It's like a big, sexy woman with all the curves and all the power and the thunder shooting
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out from between them thighs, baby.
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And I want this country and I want its ideas to take the world over for freedom.
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And I want the planet to explode with human activity.
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And I want to spread throughout the cosmos.
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And I want our project.
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You look back on us and say, we're winners in one constant connection and thank God,
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our ancestors got us through that crap and got us off the ground.
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So we could have communion with God in the stars and beyond.
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And that's God's plan.
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It's already going to happen.
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Let me tell you, the devil's going to have his hour of power.
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It's going to be hellish this pivoted fast.
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Yeah.
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This in a matter of a minute went for I'm fucking Americana.
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It's got curves.
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Yeah, it's great.
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We are going to commune with God in the stars.
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I really, I really, really feel like he just did that part on a bet.
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You know, like that reminds that whole bounty on him saying I'm having sex with America.
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Yeah, there's some hope.
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Yeah, there's some hope that like run Daza put him up that reminds me of the meow in
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super troopers where he's like, how many times can you say meow and that?
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And he's like, okay, how many times can you reference pulling open Americana's thunder
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thighs?
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Yeah.
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Like Jesus.
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Yeah.
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It does feel that way.
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And he's not done.
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Billions are going to get killed in the end.
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But let me tell you something, sweetheart, you don't think God created this planet.
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So people like Nancy Pelosi and Lord Rothschild and the Queen of England would be running
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the show, do you?
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What about Soros?
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They were only there to test us.
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We're going to break up with Paul Watson.
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I'm going to leave it at this.
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In fact, without even getting into the big specials, the big sales, all the rest of it.
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Nice.
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If you want to see war against tyranny, if you want to see commitment, if you want to
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see 10 new reporters hired and you want to see us even more effective, come on, here
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comes done with all the other great reporters and the Millie weavers and the Caitlin Bennetts
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and the Royers and everything we're doing.
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That energized me.
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All of my fish, you ever have those dreams where you want to throw your fist at somebody,
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but you can't hit them hard and it just doesn't do anything.
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Here's my fist ready.
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To ram down the throat of the globalist and tear their heart out politically, loving,
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loving, but only you can take this fist from not being able to move to focusing, getting
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ready and then energizing.
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And I'll reach right down their throat, grab their heart and I'll tear it out even if they
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shove a sword into me.
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But I want the victory when they shove that sword in me.
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You understand that?
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I want victory over them.
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We will crush their spirit with Jesus Christ power.
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We are unstoppable, but you must loose it now.
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Loose it.
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Loose it.
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That's that's a little upsetting.
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OK, OK.
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I mean, that two minutes, the ride is pretty bizarre.
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Like, you know, I'm fucking Americana, right?
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We're in a we're in an open relationship.
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I'm married, but I'm having sex with the idea of the 1950s.
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Right.
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We're going to go to the stars and commune with God.
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But we can only do that if I can politically murder the globalists.
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And that can only happen if you give me a bunch of money so I can have Jesus Christ power.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I think I think you summed that up pretty, pretty well.
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That's disturbed kind of shit.
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Every time we get even that, like even whenever he's like, you ever have that dream where
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you're trying to punch somebody and you just can't get there?
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It's like, no, no.
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Every time you give me an idea of what your dreams are, I'm more and more scared of you.
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I think that's a pretty common dream.
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Really?
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Yeah, I've definitely had a dream where I'm in a fight and I can't swing or like I want
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to run and I can't run.
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Uh huh.
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There's like physical limitation dreams.
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I'm sure it means something, but I can't remember the last time I had one, but I know I have
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like it's something that like that didn't sound that crazy to me.
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Oh, OK.
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That sounded crazy.
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The rest of it bananas batshit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I don't know why I fixated on the dream part because I guess the fucking Americana
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just slides off my back now.
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Sure.
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Maybe it's a piece of me and Alex's psychology that's missing from you that causes that sort
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of a dream to manifest.
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Which is why you guys are connected on some kind of a superhero, supervillain level.
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We're actually Eskimo brothers.
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I too am fucking Americana.
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That's what's going on.
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Oh, boy.
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So throughout the day, he's had one varsity narrative that he's been pushing.
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And I'm going to play this clip here and then we will discuss it.
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And it's really, really, really bad.
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All right.
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I got a little bit late back in studio because I'm working with three different teams of
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reporters in San Antonio and on the border with the thousands of Congonese.
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That's folks from the Congo, Central Africa, were the second biggest.
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They're saying it's about to be the biggest Ebola outbreak in history took place.
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Immigrants cause disease.
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They're trying to flee Ebola.
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So smugglers bring them into Central America.
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There it is.
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They don't stay there.
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They come here and get free welfare.
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Sure.
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And there's now reportedly over a thousand in San Antonio and thousands more coming across
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because I've made more phone calls.
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I've talked to more sources and the Border Patrol is saying we're not even allowed to
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keep them.
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We're not even allowed to test them.
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We are overwhelmed.
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I mean, we're talking for every border agent, maybe 100 to 200 people come across a day.
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So Alex's big narrative here that he's pushing.
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I mean, first of all, we're fucking back to Ebola.
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Congratulations.
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It's been a few years now.
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We've got it coming back.
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Right.
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Real fun.
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His idea is that he has a Border Patrol source that he's talked to and they're not checking
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people and all this.
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But this Ebola narrative is really Alex's main talking point for the day.
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I resisted cutting clips of it earlier in the show.
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And I think the reason is that I felt like it was just a slightly more specific version
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of the immigrants are bringing disease narrative.
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Yeah.
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And as important as it is to remind people that this is a big part of his rhetoric, I
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don't want to flog a dead horse and play every example of him being that same kind of a dick.
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Yeah.
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This was such a constant thread being brought up through the show, though.
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I felt it was important to address it.
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And I also feel like it's an escalation in the narrative quite a bit.
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For most of the show, Alex is presenting the story as coming from a source that he has
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in ICE and Border Patrol.
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They've tried to contact Fox News about it, but Fox has refused to cover the story.
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Alex sees this as evidence that he is one of the last truthful and brave news outlets
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out there, when in reality, if any of his backstory for this information is true, it's
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way more likely that Fox realized that this is the sort of rhetoric that could incite
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militias and white nationalists near the border to start shooting black people and immigrants
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they assume might be from the Congo.
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If any of what Alex is saying about his alleged sources contacting Fox First is true, I see
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that it is evidence that even Fox News might have a line in the sand, whereas Alex doesn't.
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One of the things that makes Alex incapable of understanding how wrong about this story
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he is, is that he sees all immigrants as one thing, as opposed to people with individual
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stories and experiences.
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If he'd even spent one second considering what these Congolese immigrants who have arrived
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in San Antonio have gone through on their way to the U.S., he would know that it's virtually
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impossible for any of them to have Ebola.
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For one, most of them traveled from Africa to Cuba, then to South or Central America
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and made their way up.
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It's not a fast trip, and most of them left their home country six months ago.
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The incubation period for Ebola is 21 days, so if any of them had caught Ebola before
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they left, they would have died on their way here.
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The fact that they've been on their way to the U.S. for months and none of the immigrants
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who arrived here are symptomatic of Ebola in any way means they do not have Ebola.
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And I can say for certain that none of them were symptomatic because Alex is lying about
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the immigrants not being checked.
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San Antonio Assistant City Manager Colleen Bridger, who has a PhD in health services,
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health service research, excuse me, and a master's in public health, has gone on the
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record and said that immigrants have all, quote, been screened by the federal government
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before being released into the United States.
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She also points out that the idea that some, that there's some unwashed mass of people
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is absurd, and many of the people who arrive here as refugees are coming from countries
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with higher vaccination rates than parts of the United States.
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Bridger is quick to point out that there have been some illnesses with the immigrants, that's
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definitely true, but not the kind Alex is worried about.
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Quote, we are seeing what I characterize as stress-related illness.
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We're having some cold, some upper respiratory infections, and that's to be expected with
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the stress they've gone through on their way here.
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But guess what?
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Fear is addictive, and Alex is pushing these narratives, and it has a real consequence.
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In that clip I just played, he's talking about them having, about having teams in San Antonio
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that he's in communication with.
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He has multiple news teams down there.
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And what ended up happening is that some of his employees, Owen Schroyer in particular,
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barged into a migrant resource center and began yelling at people about Ebola.
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From there, the rumors began to swirl around so aggressively that the city of San Antonio
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had to hold a press conference the next day to explain to people basic science about how
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six months is longer than 21 days, and these people aren't bringing Ebola into the country.
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That's stupid, that's paranoid, white nationalist, nativist fear that is being manifested.
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If you read some of the stories of these refugees, you get kind of the sense of the type of people
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that Alex wants you to see as a mortal threat to your safety.
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Jean-Paul Cacqueni was a public opponent of Joseph Kabila, who was known for his oppressive
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crackdowns on political dissent, the media, and civil liberty.
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Quote, I was tortured.
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I have a lot of bad memories of my life.
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That's what led him to flee and seek refugee status here in the United States.
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Jean-Paul is just one story of the approximately 350 immigrants who arrived in San Antonio
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from Africa this week, and unfortunately, I can't tell you all their stories.
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But I can tell you with 100% certainty that none of their story is, I have Ebola.
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These aren't words strong enough for what Alex is doing.
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There's a danger to his rhetoric that I pray he doesn't realize, because if he doesn't
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realize, because if he knows what he's doing, I can come to no other conclusion than he's
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trying to get these people killed.
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Alex doesn't have some great source that's feeding him this shit.
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It's the same as every other source he pretends to get info from.
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It's probably a caller pretending to be in Border Patrol or some fucking idiocy one of
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his interns found on 4chan, and what he's doing is supremely irresponsible.
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This is white nationalism of an incredibly dangerous variety.
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If any of these immigrants are attacked, their blood is on Alex's hands, and I say that without
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qualification.
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Good.
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And we're finally in agreement.
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I've been saying that since we started.
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And one of the reasons that I take that hard a stand is because Alex goes on to say things
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like this.
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And Mexico's like that.
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Mexico's had civilization collapse.
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They've had, well, we're about to be the same.
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And then it just comes down to men with guns, because our own government wouldn't put men
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with guns on the border and wouldn't give them the authority.
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So he's advocating for men with guns to protect the country from the scourge that he's yelling
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and warning people about.
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And this entire episode is so much about the Congolese and Angolan immigrants that have
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come to San Antonio.
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So it's very specific, the context that he's speaking in.
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Men with guns need to protect us from these African immigrants that are coming in.
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They probably have Ebola.
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It's insane.
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It's a deep, deep escalation of that immigrants have disease negative, because of the fear
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that he also attaches to Ebola.
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Right.
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It's just it's frustrating, and I know we've talked about this before, but the fact that
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these assholes will never say what they want, you know, he's just like, hey, these people
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are coming in and the government won't put people with guns at the border.
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He won't say the next part where he wants what what he wants those people shot.
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Do you want those people with guns to shoot the people who try and get into the country?
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Exactly.
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You're forced to say the ultimate goal of your actions if you're going to do something
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so violent.
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It becomes so undefensible to say those things if you vocalize the other part.
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And it just seems like there's there's no other outcome that would satisfy him.
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Nope.
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There's just none.
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No.
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And he's pretending that they're not like people who came over and then turned themselves
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in and pled refugee status.
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It's not what they're doing isn't illegal.
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Right.
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It's specific.
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In fact, it's very legal.
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Yes.
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I mean, he's he's trying to basically create and normalize into his communities.
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It's probably already completely normalized.
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Yeah.
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But the idea that immigrants who come in and are trying to apply for refugee status should
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be shot.
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Yeah.
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They come into the country because it's an illegal encroachment of the country and they
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probably have diseases and Ebola.
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You know, it could become airborne any minute.
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And if it does, oh, my God, these Congolese people who have come in are trying to do that
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to you.
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Yeah.
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It's fucked up.
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It's disgusting.
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It seems like he wants to live in his castle.
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He wants Austin to have giant castles built all around it.
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And then he wants Texas to have even bigger castles built all around that.
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And nobody gets in or gets out.
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And there are people standing on the fucking parapets, a metaphor of the Alamo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there's a fantasy version of it.
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Fucking disgusting.
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So Alex sent a ton of reporters out.
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I don't know.
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There's Owen Schroyer and some people.
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How many reporters does he have?
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I mean, how many of them are really kind of just freelancing?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's true.
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He could call them.
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I don't think really works for him, but she freelances.
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We'll get to her in a little bit.
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But Owen Schroyer is out there and, you know, they got some footage, but there's a problem.
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And that is that none of them are bilingual.
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So they can't.
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Oh, my fucking God.
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They can't understand any of the things that are being said.
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And they, of course, didn't bring a translator.
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Wow.
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They did bring Google.
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And God love my reporters.
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They're such good guys.
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We're like, well, these people speak French.
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We don't understand them.
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And I said, use a Google translator, because I've been doing this during the breaks, but
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I'm not complaining, but I'm just saying I'm doing a lot of multitasking.
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I'm like, get a Google translator and ask them in French.
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That's the second language in there.
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Why did you leave?
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What are your fears?
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It's not how you ask people questions.
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And I tell them Ebola.
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You might think that's newsworthy.
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It's not.
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Does it matter?
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It's in French.
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Why?
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Ebola?
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Africans fleeing the Congo.
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Africans fleeing Ebola arrive in Texas.
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We have it confirmed.
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You don't.
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But so what?
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Even if it was true.
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Like, even if that...
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Fleeing Ebola is fine.
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It is.
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As long as there's control mechanisms in place.
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You don't want the disease to spread.
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Of course not.
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We've been aware of Ebola for long enough that people are checked.
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It's not as crazy a thing as Alex is suggesting.
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But the idea that six months ago these people left the Congo or Angola because they were
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afraid of the outbreak that was happening and the Ebola that was popping up, for them
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to express that is not in any way an indication that they are in any way more likely to have
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Ebola.
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Yeah.
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Like, if Alex right now sees all these African folk coming in who he thinks have Ebola.
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They're coming into Texas.
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Right.
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So he decides to leave Texas.
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And I don't know.
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Sets up shop in Massachusetts.
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And someone's like, why did you move to Massachusetts?
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I was afraid of Ebola.
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Doesn't mean he is any more likely to have it than these refugees.
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So he can go fuck himself.
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This is stupid.
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Also, I'm not going to accept Google Translate results as evidence of anything.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that even with help they can translate French, which is a marginally simple
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language.
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Yeah.
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If any of your staff know another language, I bet they don't know Spanish even.
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They live in Texas.
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Yeah.
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Oh, they absolutely probably don't know Spanish.
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Because American is the language of the West.
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On the resume, if you have bilingual in there, it's immediately tossed out because you're
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a traitor for knowing another language.
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And that's one of the reasons why I think it's so important that people study languages.
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I think it's a really good thing to be bilingual.
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Even if you...
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I don't think anybody...
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I think only white nationalist lunatics disagree with you.
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Yeah, probably.
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I think there's a lot of people who think, like, eh, it's just something you can do or
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not do.
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Whereas I actually think that it really expands your mind to learn other languages.
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Not just because of the vocab and all the practice of that, but you start to get a sense
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of how other people express themselves.
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There's a really empathic quality to learning other languages.
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I support it wholly.
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And I think that's part of the reason why ding-dongs like these assholes are averse
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to it.
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Because it does open your mind.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you start to...
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Who cares?
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I'm not gonna get on a soapbox.
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In this next clip, Alex is complaining that no one else will cover this story.
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And I suspect that that's because no one is nearly as white nationalist as him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not even Tucker Carlson will go that far.
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Give him a couple days.
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He probably will.
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Okay, fair enough.
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He'll just wait and see how the test run on Alex's show goes.
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Right, right, right.
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And then Steve Doocy will be doing it the day after that.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is talking about that and he brings in Mike Adams, the health ranger.
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And man, Mike is so fucked up.
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What he says in this next clip is like, hey, glad you got kicked off Facebook, you prick.
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The border patrol, and I'm not bragging, I feel horrible, has to call me because no one
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else.
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One TV station's reporting on this, Mike, which means the kibosh is on it.
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Insane.
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But aside from the psychological context here, something very important to understand is
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that this invasion, this is a bioweapons invasion of America, and it's being combined with what
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you want me to come on and talk about, which is the censorship of vaccine truth information.
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And Gerald Salendez coming up, and we'll take one segment from him and get into detail on
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that.
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But exactly, it's all tied.
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They want to censor us ahead of this move.
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This outbreak is being engineered to happen.
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They want this outbreak to happen, and then they have to completely control the narrative
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so that no one can come online and question the safety of the Ebola vaccine.
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I totally agree.
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Like you said yesterday, the clampdown is ahead of the big event.
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Absolutely.
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So I think that there is no worse thing you can say than take people who are seeking refugee
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status here and call them a bioweapon invasion.
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Because what do you do?
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What do you do with an illness?
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You try and eradicate that illness.
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Like look at the country.
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What do you do with a bioweapon?
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Look at the country as a body, right?
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This illness has come in.
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You have to get antibodies to that illness.
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What is that?
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Well, Alex has already suggested it's men with guns.
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This sort of language in this context is absolutely unacceptable.
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I mean, they have the right to say it, but they should know or I hope that society works
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in such a way that there's consequences for behaving like this.
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Yeah, it's almost like I want radio listeners to have cookies.
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How many directly traceable cookies can we get back to Alex Jones and Mike Adams as far
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as fucking body count?
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I don't know.
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I mean, it seems like people have traced Ben Shapiro, the inspired terrorism pretty neatly.
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But I think also even in those cases, those people still went to Alex's site.
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I don't know.
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It's not fair for us to fully blame or anything like that.
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Of course not.
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I mean, this sort of language exists in a universe of media consumption.
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This is a very radicalizing aspect of it.
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It's very scary.
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Mike Adams calling all immigrants an invading bioweapon is insane.
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That is the least empathic thing that I think you could possibly do.
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And I think Mike is one of these dudes, too, who I think we maybe should pay more attention
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to him because I think, especially recently, the times that he's been on, he's been the
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one who's pushing Alex further.
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When he came on and talked about the Trump declaring a state of emergency, the insurrection
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act type stuff, he was the one who was pushing for like, we need to lock up our enemies.
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Alex is obviously on board with that.
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But Mike was the one who was making it OK for Alex to be that way.
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Yeah, he was spearheading it.
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And here, Alex is implying that they're a biochemical bioweapon invasion.
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But Mike's the one who's overtly sane.
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Straight up.
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Yeah.
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Man.
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And you might think that Mike has some sort of a good argument about this Ebola threat
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being real, right?
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You might think that when everybody who knows anything about science, who understands the
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situation, science is a globalist plot to basically people saying things is a globalist
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plot in the mainstream media.
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When they say it's real, it's fake.
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When they say it's fake, it's real.
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That's exactly what we're witnessing now.
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That's called being a baby.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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That's called thinking poorly.
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Yeah, you are stupid for that is dumb for a group of people that pride themselves on
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like logic and critical thinking.
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Like if you express something like that, like just because X says Y, Y is not true.
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So you just that's that's the kind of thing where if someone says that, you just got to
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walk away from.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, all right, man.
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Or join their cult.
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Your opposition will define it to a level that is just like you can't.
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How do you live?
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I think he's pre gaslighting us somewhat.
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He's priming us for his eventual gaslighting.
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Maybe.
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Jesus.
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You know, years ago, there was some Ebola that did manage to end up in the United States.
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And guess what?
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It was taken care of incredibly.
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I'm pretty sure it was a soft launch and the globalists were thwarted once again by Alex
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and his ilk.
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And now they're going back to the same plan.
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It could be.
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But I know I know from researching that because we did an episode about Alex's coverage of
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the 2013 outbreak.
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Oh, yeah.
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I know from researching that that the media was covering it.
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I know that people were talking about it.
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But Alex seems to think now in 2019 that the media covered it up back then, which I can
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say categorically is not true.
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Here's Alex live.
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It's now admitted in 2019 that five years ago, Ebola did show up in Texas, Georgia,
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New York and other areas, and people were kept in secret wings.
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I was reporting at the time and in bulwars.com, Mike Adams was spearheading it at the time
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at nationalnews.com.
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And everyone else was covering it up.
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Not true at all.
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Absolutely a rewriting of history.
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By that reasoning, though.
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Were the media to cover it, Mike Adams would assume that it was not true.
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It would have to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It just doesn't fucking matter.
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Yeah.
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They're just bad at making arguments and they appeal to that sort of like distrust.
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They pretend it's a healthy distrust when in reality it's an abusive distrust.
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So anyway, Alex in this next clip, this is the last one from the 10th, from June 10th.
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This is just deeply irresponsible, the way he's characterizing these immigrants who have
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come into San Antonio.
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Why would the captured federal government probably controls part of it?
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They bring in thousands of Africans in Texas alone, fleeing the Congo with what they're
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now saying is the second or largest outbreak ever.
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Maybe to save fucking lives.
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All over San Antonio are just thousands of people wandering around.
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We've talked to the border patrol.
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They say, Alex, it's not 300, it's thousands over a thousand last few days.
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I even found an article.
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So I mean, he's just saying that they're wandering around San Antonio.
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If you are someone who believes him and you believe that these people might have Ebola
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and they're a threat and there's thousands of them wandering around, how do you know
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if someone that you see wandering around San Antonio is a immigrant from the Congo?
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Oh, I know.
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I know.
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Their skin is different.
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I mean, it does lead to a suspicion of everybody who might be from the Congo.
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I mean, you understand?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It almost seems like it doesn't even matter if they're from the Congo.
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Any black person wandering around San Antonio is now officially, according to Alex, suspicious.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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We should stop and inspect every single black person walking around.
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That's the only way to be safe.
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That's the only way to be safe.
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And that's what we want.
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We need to be safe.
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So let's just stop every black person.
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I understand.
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That's a good frisk.
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I understand fully that that's not what Alex is saying, but that's what he's implying.
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That's what's beneath the rhetoric that he's putting out.
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And he hides much like that, like, you know, you need guns on the men with guns on the
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border.
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He's avoiding saying the part that is the real world application of the rhetoric that
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he's putting out.
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Men on the border stopping immigrants, you are wanting them to be shot if they try and
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enter the country, especially considering these people wandering around San Antonio.
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You want everyone to be suspicious of anyone who looks like they might be African, right?
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That's what you're doing, especially in the context of today, where he's talking about
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we need men with guns on the border.
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There are border militias with guns who have killed people.
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We need we need to monitor every black person in San Antonio.
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Cops kill people all the fucking time.
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Yeah.
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For nothing.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I agree.
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So we get to the 11th and I've studiously avoided trying to play any Rainbow Snatch
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material.
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Milly Weaver's character that she does.
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I believe you forgot the adjective brilliant, brilliant character.
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Brilliantly opportunistic.
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For those of you who don't know, Milly Weaver is an employee of Alex Jones.
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She puts on a character named Rainbow Snatch, which she believes is some sort of a parody
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of feminism and the left and the excesses of the LGBT community or something.
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Yeah, it just kind of seemed more more weird on her part.
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Yeah, it's usually pretty dumb.
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So she went out to Pride.
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And I want you to put your mic down because this is going to make you a little bit like
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screamy possibly.
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But I really want you to hear what her bit is when she goes out there.
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Hey, guys, it's your favorite vlogger, Rainbow Snatch.
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Viewer discretion is advised.
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It's Pittsburgh Pride 2019.
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Yes, queen.
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Let's go see what some of these LGBTQ allies and friends have to say.
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Should we impeach Trump?
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Yes.
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Mike Pence for president, Mike Pence for president, Mike Pence, you guys want Mike Pence for president.
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So the bit seems to be highlighting Mike Pence's homophobia.
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It seems to be taking his hatred of gay people as a virtue almost.
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It's like, oh, yeah, you want to impeach Trump?
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Well, guess what you get then?
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It's almost a threat.
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It's a very weird setup for a bit, because normally you'd probably want to be like Mike
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Pence doesn't hate gay people.
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He just has traditional values.
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But this seems to be making very overt that Milly Weaver, at least, is very conscious
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of the fact that should Mike Pence be president, things would be very bad for the LGBT community.
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And she's wielding that almost as a Trump card, kind of to like, you think you want
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Trump impeached?
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Be careful what you wish for, jerk.
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Yeah.
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It's fucked up.
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I'm not comedy.
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I'm confused.
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Is she parroting people on because she's almost more an effective parody of what the hard
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right thinks they are parroting?
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Trust me, it's not that.
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She's insane.
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Yeah.
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She might be a genius.
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No, she's not.
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I've seen enough of her work to know she's not.
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On the second level.
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No.
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I went through this with Ann Coulter 10 years ago, thinking it's a brilliant parody of commentary.
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No, they just can't go lower.
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No.
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Or they can always go lower.
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And I just don't think it's well thought out, because there's probably some kind of bit
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you could do along these lines that might have something to it.
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But this just seems hostile.
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Like it really just seems like, you know, I don't want Trump impeached.
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You do.
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If you get what you want, your survival's at risk.
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Yeah.
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It's fucked up.
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Is there a bit?
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I don't.
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I mean, that's it.
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That's what it is.
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That's the whole thing?
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It's kind of a display of cruelty as a bit.
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So her plan was to go to the pride parade and bum people and say, you want Trump impeached?
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And they go, yeah.
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And then she says, you love Mike Pence.
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Was she trying to catch them not knowing like a like a it's like Jay Leno man on the street
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where they're like, yeah, we want Mike Pence.
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See, they don't know anything about politics at all.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It was more a like you like get people excited about Trump being impeached and then bringing
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them down to earth with the, well, don't you know that Pence would be president then?
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Which is dumb.
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That's just being a dick.
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Yeah.
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And also there's a fundamental thing that's like, yes, people are drunk at the pride parades.
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People are drunk at all street festivals and things like that.
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So if you're going out and you're like, I'm trying to do a serious piece of reporting,
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it's like people are fucked up.
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They don't want to, they don't want to talk to you.
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Yeah.
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I caught them not realizing in a drunken moment of exuberance that Mike Pence would be president
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if Trump is impeached.
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Who cares?
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What point are you making?
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Yeah, I feel like point is, is bringing up Mike Pence's homophobia, which is something
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that they should be not celebrating in a, I don't understand.
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It's very weird.
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I also, I proposed a new amendment that I think we can all agree on.
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Parades are hallowed ground.
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No poll, no, no like man on the street interviews during a parade.
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Just have a great time.
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No political bullshit.
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Most of the time those organizers of events like that require people who are doing interviews
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to have press passes, but it's very hard to control the flow of people and so people end
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up generally being able to skirt those rules, especially if you're just recording on like
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an iPhone.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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But you just let people have a good time at pride.
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Nope.
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Not if you're a rainbow snatch, the world's greatest satirist, Mark Twain of our times,
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rainbow snatch.
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So Alex comes back in and he's still on this African immigrants, Ebola nonsense.
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But it's escalated a little bit.
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It's escalated and Alex is in a really fucked up mood on this, this episode because there's
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a little bit of video that Alex plays of someone like pushing his camera away.
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One of Owen's cameras away, doesn't want to be on film.
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And this really, really sets Alex off.
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This is the incredible.
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Oh, and now they're covering our camera people.
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So there's your headline, Congo invaders, assault reporters, refugees fleeing Congo
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Ebola tell reporters they can't film them because they're the royalty, the God men to
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come here to hate America and bitch and tell us how we suck and how white people are bad.
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Cause you know, that's the brainwashing and the refugee camps in Africa, getting them
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ready, loading them on planes, bringing them in.
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Nothing about any of the information he actually has indicates that that's the case.
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He's just projecting.
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That's all that is.
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Yes.
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That's an insane thing to put on these people with no information.
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Now I mean, if he had video of them being like, well, in the refugee camps, they teach
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us to hate white people.
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And they're bringing us in like, ah, that's interesting.
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That guy said that.
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Still not proof that that's true, but you could, you could report on that.
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This is just Alex's sort of replacement fears, the demographic replacement nonsense really
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driving the train fucked up.
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Jesus God, it's so stupid to point out hypocrisy.
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I hate it.
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But remember when a, let's say Republican fucking, uh, Congressman beat the shit out
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of a Guardian journalist.
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I do.
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Yeah.
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I seem to recall Alex being 100% for it.
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Oh yeah.
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He was thrilled.
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He was overjoyed.
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And this dude was just like, Hey, can you not fill me?
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Yeah.
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God, I hate these people.
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But, uh, I, I agree with you secondary though, to how deep Alex gets into this whole, this
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whole of like, I hate white people, right?
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Um, this next clip kind of made me feel unwell.
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It gave me a little bit of a flutter and a sense of like, Oh, I just think he's, there's
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something really fucked up going on in his head on the, on the 11th and our crew was
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out there.
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I saw him this morning.
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I said, Alex, we walked down a street and there'd be 50 here, a hundred there.
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It's on the local news that they already have Congo, uh, community groups that are saying,
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Oh, thousands are coming.
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Get ready for it.
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I have that newscast.
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Doesn't play it.
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That's what I'm saying.
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It's totally insane.
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Where's my clipboard.
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I've got that Congo clip.
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I mean, I've got like 60 clips here.
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Local Congolese family tries to make asylum seekers feel at home.
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So what?
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Oh, thousands more come.
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Millions come.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
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You're going to pay.
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You're going to pay good.
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And Hey, I bet there'll be some reparations for slavery.
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I bet my kids.
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I'll probably have to pay them a bunch of money because I'm a white devil, but you sure
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fight hard to get into that white devil's place.
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And then once you get in with that white devil, you tell that white devil how bad he is.
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I'm not taking this crap anymore.
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I'm done.
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You were done long ago.
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What are you pretending is some sort of new feeling for you, you stupid asshole.
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So there's a couple of things that really disturbed me about that.
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First of all, the voice, obviously, then the editorializing that he does within that voice
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is really fucked up.
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The idea that African immigrants who are coming in now would ask for reparations is kind of
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silly.
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I think he's trying to distort that argument entirely.
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And then beyond that, you can hear an echo and it really drove home like he's in a much
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worse studio.
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Yeah.
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You know that the sound quality of the show is diminishing.
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There is an echo when he starts yelling, this is not his professional studio anymore.
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Oh, that's no good.
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Yeah.
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There's a, there's a different quality to it.
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I think he's being angrier and angrier as he descends into worse and worse environs.
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The people who assume that minorities all hate white people so much probably only do
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it because they're so awful that they are hated.
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It's not like everybody hates white people.
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It's that you guys are dicks and you deserve it.
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It's also projection.
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It is the like, I hate these groups.
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Why wouldn't they hate me?
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's a, we're at, we're at opposition in this.
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Yeah, you don't have to be, dude.
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You can just be cool.
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So in this next clip, Alex makes it really overt that so much of his concern is about
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this demographic replacement idea.
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This is all just his fears that these Africans are going to come in and vote Democrat, which
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is something that he talks about all the time, but it does bear mentioning that like it's
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so fucked up a thing to say, but it's become so normal as a piece of Alex's rhetoric that
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it's almost boring because he's so much worse.
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I mean, that last clip is so much worse.
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But it bears reminding people that this also lives in his head.
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Once they break the migration routes into the country, the Africans even tell you we're
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coming by the millions.
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So they know they're part of a plan and then they're going to be given voter ID cards.
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They're going to be signed up as Democrats, they're going to get their free welfare and
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the country will have its new voting block and that's it.
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So that's, you know, that's classic, that's classic white nationalism stuff.
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White people won't be allowed to run everything and run roughshod over everybody and break
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everything that they want to and face no consequences for it.
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How can we allow that to happen, Dan?
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It's insane.
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God, that's such.
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How do you not know that you're white?
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You know you're a white nationalist.
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He knows that he's a white nationalist.
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Well, it makes me think of Dave Daubenmire, Coach Dave, the idea of like, I'm a white
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nationalist, I'm white and I'm a nationalist.
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Yeah, yeah, like lack of engagement with the ideas of what's going on, whether it's intentional
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or just being naive and stupid, like whatever it is, willingly, whatever it is, it's yeah,
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it's a lack of caring about getting engaged with the actual terms and ideas and what's
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actually going on.
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But yeah, on some level he has to know what he's doing.
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And the fucked up-ness about that is I think more evident in the, I mean, the shitty voice
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was racist as fuck, but the start of that is just literally woman tries to help.
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Right.
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And that he took as, well, obviously I need to turn this into a weird racist screed.
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Well yeah, I mean it's like the story is a Congolese woman who lives in America, knows
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more people of her country of origin are coming and wants to make them feel welcome.
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Like the alternative, I mean what he's responding to, I guess what he would wish the headline
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is Congolese immigrants made to feel not welcome, treated like scourge.
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That's fucked up.
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And what he'd really like is Congolese woman treats other Congolese immigrants like scourge
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because then he'd be like, ha ha, see, she's a nationalist too.
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Or a better headline for Alex would be Congolese people shot at border.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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So anyway.
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God.
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That really sucks.
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So there's a big thing that happens on the 11th and that is Roger Stone comes back.
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What?
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Well, he has this gag order about his case, but that doesn't mean he can't talk about
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other things.
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He can talk all he wants publicly.
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He just can't talk about his case and anything that's related to it.
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Right, right, right.
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He could have been on Info Wars this whole fucking time if he wanted to, as long as he
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shut his mouth about things that involved Mueller, the investigation, his own case,
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any offshoot of that case, WikiLeaks, Jerome Corsi, I assume, Randy Credico.
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He can't defend himself publicly about these things and that's why he wouldn't want to
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be on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So he took all, like they kept him off Info Wars for a long time because they're like
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cool down because even if we had you on to talk about anything, you would immediately
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be like, yeah, I know, I understand that Obama fucked this up, but Mueller is the real one.
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Yeah.
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That's what we assume.
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Yeah.
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We find out that there's a psycho drama going on between Alex and Roger that this interview
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is...
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Tense.
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Not tense.
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Uh-huh.
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Bizarre.
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Okay.
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And I think it leads Alex to start drinking, but we'll get to that when we get to that.
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Here is Alex welcoming Roger Stone back onto Info Wars.
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Roger Stone, glad we got you on.
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I appreciate you contacting us first for your big exclusive, Breaking Your Silence, Should
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I Ask Up Front.
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First, it's good to see your face, good to talk to you this morning.
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Why are you breaking your silence now?
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Well, Alex, first of all, let me say how good it feels to be back on Info Wars and how much
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I have missed the camaraderie and the shared goals of you, David Knight, Rob Dew, Millie
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Weaver, Owen Schroyer, Mike Zimmerman, and so many others there.
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If there were theme music for this segment, I would choose Gene Autry's Back in the Saddle
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Again.
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I thought he was going to say reunited and it feels so good.
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Really hoping it was...
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I don't know.
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Back in the Saddle Again is fine.
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He would have to be excited to be reunited with these people for that song to work.
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Instead, he is excited to be near them and at work.
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On the phone.
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Very different situation.
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On Skype.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And myself, why is Roger even on the show?
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He can't talk about his own personal stuff.
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He doesn't really...
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It's weird.
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It's a strange situation to be in where it's like, we know you have a gag order.
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Alex even makes clear that we know you can't talk about that business.
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I was wondering, what are they even going to do?
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I thought one of Alex's subtle digs was, thank you for contacting us first.
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That was...
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I thought that was a big.
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Well, we'll see.
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John Dean is a congenital liar and he has costed himself by attacking all Republican
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presidents so that no one in the mainstream media will go back and examine his real role
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as one of those who conducted the Watergate coverup and lied to virtually everyone about
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it.
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I had no choice but to come on InfoWars today and set the record straight.
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So he's really just on the show to talk shit about John Dean because he went and testified.
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Yeah, we're talking Nixon.
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That's what we're doing.
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We're talking ass tattoo Nixon.
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But we're not really.
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I mean, he's just talking shit about John Dean and then he wants to give his rundown
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of the candidates in 2020, the Democratic field.
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Of course.
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It's a pointless interview for the most part.
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Yeah.
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Well, he can't talk about the one thing that the interview would be valuable for.
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Right.
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The only thing that we're interested in is, you go to prison, Roger?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And he can't talk about that.
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But what he can do is make a poop joke.
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And Alex loves it.
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Of course.
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I mean, I don't get my news from CNN for the same reason that I don't eat out of the toilet.
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Virtually nothing that they write, nothing they broadcast is true.
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I think most of the American people know that.
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It's kind of like at a certain point, people recognize dog crap out in the yard.
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It's like, there's not lines around the block to eat that anymore.
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Exactly.
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And their chemistry has not skipped a beat.
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It is electric.
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Oh, man, Alex is not good at tagging.
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No.
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First off.
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No.
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Second, if that joke is really the one that hits the sweet spot for you.
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He loves it.
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We got a long way to go.
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It's also really funny because on our last episode, Alex was talking about how Karl Rove
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talks about shit all the time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's true.
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Alex losing his shit for a poop joke in twenty nineteen.
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It's crazy.
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Oh, boy.
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I told you there's a psycho drama going on.
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And I think it really starts to manifest in this next clip where Alex is kind of like,
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hey, man, why haven't you called me?
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And I miss all of you terribly, and I watch regularly to prepare myself for the upcoming
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trial in November.
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And let's talk about some of that, if you can, without getting around, without the gag
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order.
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Why wouldn't you even talk to me the last few months?
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I mean, everybody was like, what's going on, Roger?
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I'm like, I don't know.
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You just say gag order, gag order in the text messages.
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Oh, well, because I wanted to take a break.
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It is an enormous task.
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Let me interrupt you.
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I'm famous for that.
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You'll have the floor of the next 15, 20 minutes.
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You want to stay.
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You look freakin 15 years younger.
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Maybe I should take a break for a couple of months.
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You're looking pretty good there.
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There's.
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He doesn't even give him an opportunity to answer, like Alex is hurt.
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Yeah, it does sound like it's hurt.
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Why didn't you talk to me?
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That sounded really.
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And that's why he had to interrupt him, because if he gave a genuine answer, then Alex was
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like, no, no, no.
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I can't feel.
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I can't feel.
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And he probably was gearing up to give at least a diplomatic, sincere answer.
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Like I wanted to take a break.
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I needed to get out of this space.
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I was probably going to break my gag order.
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If we talked more, we have an energy between us.
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You antagonize me.
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I antagonize you.
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We just kind of bullshit, drop my guard for a moment, and then I violate the gag order
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and I'm in prison.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And any of that, but the bottom line of that is like, you're kind of a negative influence
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for me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That conversation probably is what Alex wants to have.
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So of course, yeah, he interrupts him immediately.
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But also, it's interesting to know that behind the scenes, not talking.
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Alex is hurt.
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He is really hurt.
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Really hurt.
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But also, he thinks that Roger looks great.
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And I did see the video and he does look pretty good.
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He looks like he's a little bit thinner.
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Maybe it's just because he's wearing a tight t-shirt.
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I'm not sure.
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But anyway, Alex won't stop talking about how good he looks.
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And Roger is a fucking pro.
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Roger, I'm not kidding.
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You look 15 years younger because I know you used to work yourself to death fighting like
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20 hours a day.
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You look great, man.
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Well, I appreciate that, Alex.
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It's because I'm still using a number of the products at Infowars, including my all-time
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favorite, Brave Horse Plus, which I still highly recommend to anyone who's looking for
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that extra boost of energy late in the day.
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Works great for me.
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It'll work great for you.
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I'm still very much a believer and very much a customer.
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While you're at it, if you want to help me, you can go to stonedefensefund.com.
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What a pro.
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He's so good.
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He needs to get his plugin.
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So in order to do that, he plugs Alex's shit.
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He transitions off a compliment into the plug that he needs to make to make his own plug.
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That is third stage ad pivoting.
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Good shit.
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Wow.
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He is so good at this.
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Wow.
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That is fucking Jesus.
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So Alex has confronted him about the, why haven't you texted me?
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Why don't you talk to me anymore?
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And I don't think Alex was satisfied with the answer that started and then the interruption.
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I think that he still wants to try and guilt Roger about his jilting.
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He feels rejected and ignored and neglected, but Alex can't make it all about himself.
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So what he does is bring in Owen Schroyer to try and help guilt Roger.
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Could you please tell Roger that I am not talking to him right now?
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No, it's not that.
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It's Roger, look at our son.
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You haven't talked to me and I understand that.
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Why haven't you talked to our boy?
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You two used to host the war room together.
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This is insane.
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The level of like just petty drama that Alex is bringing.
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Let's bring Owen Schroyer in your co-host from the war room.
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He really misses you.
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He, he was just asking me last week, why won't Roger call me back?
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You know, how do I get him back on air?
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So come on over here.
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Let me grab that mic from underneath the table there.
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I just decided to do this 10 seconds ago on, why won't you?
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You know, Owen's real curious why you won't call him back.
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Hey buddy, he's right here.
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He's got a weird beard with no mustache.
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Now that's what happens when he doesn't have a father figure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Look at that beard he's growing.
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You left and nine months later we got a little Owen Schroyer and you abandoned him.
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He really misses you, man.
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Jesus.
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Imagine feeling jilted by Roger Stone.
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Like imagine being emotionally, I can't imagine not knowing that this was the outcome.
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Yeah.
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Like, yeah.
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And I don't, I don't know.
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Did you even bother to read, I'm not picking sides on this thing.
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Like Alex didn't even bother to read his Wikipedia page where it's like, Oh, by the end, by the
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way, at the end of every relationship Roger Stone has ever had, he's fucked off and told
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you to go to hell.
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Unless you have blackmail on it.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, in this next clip, uh, before, uh, Owen and Roger get to have a little bit of
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a back and forth, uh, Alex and, uh, Owen do a little bit of goofing about, uh, how he
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went down to a place where Ebola might be, uh, and, uh, this gets pretty fucked up.
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You're going to tell us everything at the bottom of the hour.
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The point is you literally could have Ebola right now.
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Well, uh, let's pray to God that I don't stay back and they say it's carried in the semen
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though.
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So it's good.
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Can I shake your hand?
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That's right.
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As long as you don't try to, you know, stick your weaning in me.
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All right.
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All right.
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I'm sorry.
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Family show.
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No, literally it can, it can gestate, it can incubate in the testicles for a year.
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And the doctor who gave us the interview, we'll talk more about this, basically denied
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that.
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Didn't deny it.
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Tried to explain what the reality is probably, and you just didn't listen because you don't
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care and you're working towards a predetermined conclusion.
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The fact that they're goofing around like that makes it fully clear to me that they
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don't believe there's a possibility even that Owen has Ebola from going down there because
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he knows that none of those people have Ebola.
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This is all bullshit.
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That kind of display makes it so clear.
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But also Alex is technically kind of correct.
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Ebola has been shown in some cases to be able to survive in human testicles for periods
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of about a year.
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A test of 429 survivors of the 2016 Ebola outbreak in Liberia showed that 9% of them
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had some amount of fragmented Ebola in their semen with 63% of that 9% still showing signs
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of it a year after they survived the condition.
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This is why the World Health Organization has specific guidelines in place for sexual
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activity for people who have survived Ebola.
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While pointing out that more research needs to be done on the subject, they say that a
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survivor's semen should be tested every three months, and until they have two tests in a
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row that come back negative, they should refrain from intercourse or use condoms.
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This takes care of any concerns about possible transmission that may come that may or may
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not even be possible.
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They're not entirely sure.
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Right, 40 dudes were found with some Ebola and the guys were like, hey, knock it off
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for about a year.
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Then you'll be good.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, that's a little simplistic, but yeah.
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But you might also notice that this is all surrounding survivors of Ebola, and that's
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because Ebola doesn't hide out in the testicles waiting to infect a person for up to a year.
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That's nonsense.
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If you have Ebola in your nuts right now, you're going to have Ebola in a week.
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Fox is intentionally misrepresenting this medical information in order to reinforce
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his completely incorrect assertion that these people in San Antonio probably have Ebola.
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Even though you don't know it, you don't see it, it's in the balls.
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Because it can gestate for up to a year instead of because it...
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Of survivors.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's not just like, hey.
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Well, and that's not even gestating.
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That's just a virus.
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Staying.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, it's all nonsense, but it's a good thing they got to do a little bit of homophobic
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riffing and goofing around.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm pretty stoked that they can go from advocating that we put murderers at the border to kill
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these people, and then turn that into a homophobic thing as well.
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That's really a triple luxe right there.
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Much like Roger is an expert at these pivots, these ad pivots, they too are experts in making
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all bigotry connect.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So there's something going on on this show.
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I mean, Roger's on, they're having a real lost friendship moment on air.
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But also, Matt Drudge has picked up that Roger Stone is on InfoWars, and he's topped link.
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He topped linked it.
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Jesus Christ.
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So Alex is now super excited about the fact that we're number one on Drudge right now.
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Yeah.
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Well, you got to know, Alex Jones here back live with Owen Schroyer, Roger Stone exclusive.
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They can't stand that InfoWars.com and NewsWars.com exist.
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Neither can I.
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But they really can't stand that DrudgeReport.com, the second biggest website in the world.
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Not just the biggest news site, it is the biggest news site.
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Second biggest site in the world, you can look that up.
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I feel like Yahoo and MSM, it's always like, you know, varies.
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Second biggest news site in the world, biggest site in the world when it comes to news, but
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second biggest site total.
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And there it is live, Roger Stone breaks silence.
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So Alex keeps bringing this up, and I think that the interview was supposed to be a bit
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shorter than it was, but he keeps stretching it out because he knows that we're top linked
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on Drudge.
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Yeah, got to stay there.
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This is going to feed so much traffic.
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Right.
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So Alex is constantly also saying that Drudge is the top news site in the world and the
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number two website total, but generally he doesn't say you can look it up.
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So I just don't.
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I know he's lying, but this time he invited me to explore it, so why not take him up on
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it?
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Sure.
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Number one website in the world is Google.
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Number two is YouTube.
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Number three is Facebook.
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Wikipedia is number five.
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Amazon comes in at number 10.
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Mixed in are a bunch of a ton of like Chinese websites like Baidu and QQ.com.
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Cool.
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Drudge isn't even in the top 50.
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Shit, Drudge isn't even in the top 50 sites if you only consider the United States.
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You can make an argument that YouTube is in some ways news related, but there's also a
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lot to it that's more than just news.
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So maybe you don't want to count that as the top news site.
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I was having a real tough time figuring out what constituted a news site so I could check
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Alex's it's the top news site in the world.
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But thankfully Alexa allows you to filter their results by website category.
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And when you do that and you only include news sites, guess what?
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Drudge is number 22, not number one.
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He comes in behind Reuters, Bloomberg, CNBC, USA Today, Forbes, Washington Post, Fox News,
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Yahoo News, The Guardian, New York Times, and CNN.
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Oh, and he also 14 spots down the list from Shutterstock.
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I think Alex would still consider Drudge the number one news source.
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Right.
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Right?
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Because he doesn't think those other things.
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But he's not saying that.
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No, he's not saying that.
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That's true.
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He's saying it's the number two website in the world and number one in the news category
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and it is not.
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It's number 22 in the news category.
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They also on Alexa, they have a subcategory of news, which is just headline links, which
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perfectly describes Drudge.
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Yeah.
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And he isn't even number one there.
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That's Reddit.
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Reddit's number one and headline links really much more traffic than Drudge.
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According to Alexa, Drudge is the 832nd biggest website in the world and 162nd biggest in
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the United States, which is very impressive.
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It is nothing to be ashamed of and I'm not shitting on it, but it really does seem disappointing
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if you previously thought it was number one or two.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I would have, I was expecting like he was embellishing, but you know, it was in the
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twenties or something like that.
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Not even close.
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No.
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So Alex might want to spin it and say that Alexa is a company that's run by Amazon, so
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it's not trustworthy.
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So fine.
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I decided to check Quantcast.
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They use slightly different metrics than Alexa and they don't include as wide a range of
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sites like they don't include porn sites.
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So this number is a little bit different.
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They have Drudge at number 41 in the United States, which is still way lower than Alex's
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claim.
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Also, they're not the number one news site.
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They aren't even close.
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Like Buzzfeed, MSN, Vice, and The Hill are all far above Drudge.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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My point here is that Alex is just making shit up, but he's doing it because to him,
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Drudge is the biggest website in the world.
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Drudge was founded in 1995, right as Alex was launching his career.
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So the whole time Alex has been peddling his shit, Drudge has been right there.
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This identifies with Drudge.
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So of course Alex thinks that he's the most important and biggest thing in the world.
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Exaggerating Drudge's place in the world is one part hero worship, but one part pathetic
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narcissism by proxy.
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Yeah.
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He feels that the two of their careers are like super intertwined and maybe there is
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something to that.
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I think that there's probably a piece of it.
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Yeah, I mean it also benefits him specifically to... because the only time he talks about
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Drudge Report really is whenever he's on it.
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That's not fair.
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I don't play a ton of clips.
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He brings it up a lot.
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About how...
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That it's the number one or number two?
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Yes.
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Oh, okay.
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And about how like of all the conservative folk, Drudge is one of the only people keeping
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the fire.
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Yeah.
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That sort of stuff.
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And he brings up headlines from Drudge a lot when he's just covering a story.
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He's like, you got this upon Drudge?
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He brings it up outside of his personal connection a lot, but he also brings up their personal
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connection a lot too.
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Right.
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I thought it was almost like a synergistic advertising.
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You know, like the more important Drudge is, the more important Alex is when he's on Drudge.
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That's definitely fair.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, that kind of...
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Look at how great I am because of how great this is and I'm on the number...
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I'm the number one results on the number one news site in the world.
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You know?
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I definitely believe that that's fair.
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Yeah.
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So Roger's on, Drudge is doing the advertising for him.
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Everything is great.
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They want to get into the 2020 candidates.
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You know, Biden is leading in some polls now.
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Sure.
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Roger does not think this is going to last because he believes that there's a mystery
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candidate.
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There's a mystery candidate.
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Joe Biden wants to run.
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Let him run.
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He's cannon fodder.
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The Obama machine will sweep him aside.
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And I still predict that their strongest nominee, their most likely nominee would be Michelle
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Obama.
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I agree.
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In fact, the word is I was told by CIA and these are real people.
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This is not like regular people that say they work for the CIA.
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Sure.
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Sounds like they're not real people.
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They've been surveilling that they had meetings a year ago with Hillary and Michelle talking
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about running together and then debating who'd be the presidential nominee.
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Man.
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Alex is an improv guy like Roger just throws that curve ball.
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Michelle Obama is the strongest candidate.
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Not only that, the CIA has told me that there are meetings.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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That's a.
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Did he do UCB?
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What are we doing here?
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Ground legs.
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Yeah.
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Where is that reporting earlier?
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Like where is the.
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Never mentioned it before.
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Needed Roger to bring it up.
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Never ever mentioned it before.
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Crazy, crazy stuff.
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God.
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So in this next clip, Alex expresses that he thinks that QAnon is a leftist psyop designed
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to try and fracture the connection between himself and Donald Trump.
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Well, that helps.
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When I see the left saying, oh, Trump doesn't like Roger, they do that for the national
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news to try to drive a wedge against Trump and against you between you both.
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They do that to us.
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Oh, the media calls, oh, you hate Roger now.
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Oh, you guys have fallen out.
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You're big enemies now.
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I haven't halfway bought into that till I talk to you and you just get into these psyops
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with these people.
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And then the QAnon movement, you know, oh, Alex is going to jail.
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Roger's going to jail.
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It's all part of Trump's plan to get the bad guys.
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So the bad guys try to put us in prison.
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And then the Q is just some fake thing on the Internet that says, oh, that's Trump getting
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the bad guys while Trump is defending, you're saying you're a great guy on Twitter and sending
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out my my videos and defending info wars.
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The way the left works and the psyops they run are just so disgusting.
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And people really, I think, need to learn to see through them.
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I do agree that people need to learn to see through those sorts of things like QAnon being
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like a wild pile of bullshit.
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But I don't think the logical conclusion to come to is this is the left right up.
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Right.
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That's that's the other kind of bad thinking.
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Yeah, we're we're right back at yes, you came to the right conclusion.
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People should learn to see through this.
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Yeah.
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The way you got there is the dumbest possible road you could have taken.
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And you're a shit advocate for helping people get to the right.
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You only reach the right conclusion because you found a way to make it work for you.
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Right.
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Right.
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And even then, your main goal is to only obfuscate the same way.
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Just have people come to you.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah, for sure.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, we learned that Twitter, you know, I mean, one of the biggest websites
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in the world.
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People love it.
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Some people hate it.
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But it turns out its days are numbered.
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Oh, I should add, Trump just warned 22 days ago.
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He said, I am coming after you and knowing the president before he said, I'm looking
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at it.
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But now he's gone through the phases of meeting privately, publicly warning him a bunch.
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He's always very judicious.
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He's a counter-puncher.
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But what does it mean when he tweets, OK, I'm coming after you?
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The word is he's got a whole new conservative Twitter ready that if he energizes it, he'll
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break Twitter.
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Well, what it means to me is that he's been watching us here at Infowars.com.
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The idea that Trump has a conservative Twitter ready to go, I don't know what level of whack
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you've got to be to think that that's going on.
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So he's just so the president, using the powers of the presidency, I guess, well, magic has
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just has just been like, OK, we've designed a conservative Twitter.
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Yeah.
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And we're going to launch it.
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We're just waiting for the right time, which I assume is very shortly after Mike Adams,
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the health ranger, is kicked off Facebook.
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I would assume so.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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Right.
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You know what?
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Ding dong.
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It already exists.
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Just go.
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Yeah.
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He's already over there.
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Probably.
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Right.
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I'm certain he is.
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Yeah.
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It takes a lot to get kicked off.
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It is weird how impotent Trump is showing himself to be, even as he exercises ridiculously
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powerful pain and cruelty like so much of him saying stuff is just he says he's going
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to do something.
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The news covers it.
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People get all excited or all angry about it.
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And then it turns out later that he actually can't do anything and nobody cares because
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it's five days later.
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And some of that's strategic, too.
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I mean, in this case, it's clearly to preserve this base that feels jilted by social media
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companies.
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And so, I mean, there is there is a strategic element to paying lip service to certain I
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think all politicians do that.
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Yeah.
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Oh, for sure.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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Biden definitely no longer supports the Hyde Amendment.
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We had that was immediate.
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It's settled.
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I'm sure.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex gets back to his personal feelings about Roger.
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And he tries once again to know what find out why didn't you call me?
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And I think from Roger's response, you get a pretty clear sense that he does not really
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care that Alex feels rejected.
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Duh.
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I'll have you back on.
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But I want to look.
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We haven't talked except maybe twice on the phone the last three, four months.
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Maybe 10 voice messages that looked it up.
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You said, I can't talk to you.
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Gag order.
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Suddenly you're ready to go hog wild.
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That's great.
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What has changed?
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I already asked the question earlier, but what what what's happened?
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Let's be very clear.
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Today's conversation has been about John Dean's testimony yesterday before the House Judiciary
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Committee.
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I get it.
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But I had those conversations with you three months ago.
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I said, Roger, I'll keep you employed.
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You're better not talking about Russiagate.
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Everyone's come on and talk about the race, talk about politics.
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And then suddenly you just disappeared.
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So I'm not I'm not I'm not breaking your balls.
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I'm asking how your calculus changed from then to agreeing with me.
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Well, I'm an old war horse and I could not see this presidential campaign unfold without
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putting in my two cents.
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And I've been scrupulous here today.
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I have not discussed anything in relation to the charges against me or my upcoming trial.
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They're going to try to spin it that you did, but it's a damn lie.
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I don't think Alex got what he needed out of that exchange.
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And I'm sure Drudge is now like really glad he top linked this.
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This sort of breakdown of emotional, emotional dynamics.
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Yeah, it is still I mean, also, oh, and Troyer is still silently weeping into it, into a
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yeah, you know, in full knowledge that he's a prop.
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I still feel empathy, even though it is so obvious and I'm blindsided by how stupid these
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people are whenever they're like, oh, Trump, Roger Stone, why don't you return my calls
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anymore?
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And it's like, dude, they never cared about you.
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They don't have loyalty and they will toss you aside when you're no longer useful.
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How did you not already know that?
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But then watching him like grovel and it's like, I still feel sad for how stupid you
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are.
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So you don't feel an empathy for the people.
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You feel an empathy for the situation.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's evocative of, you know, people who don't deserve that sort of treatment for people.
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Right.
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Right.
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You can identify with it.
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Yeah.
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I think I think that that's only human to have that response.
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But to care about Alex's hurt feelings is that's a bridge too far.
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Good call.
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So we get back now to the idea about the CIA telling Alex that Michelle Obama and Hillary
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Clinton had met to discuss running for president.
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Hey, guess what?
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Roger Stone, not into this bullshit.
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Oh, yeah.
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That was my question earlier.
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So I'm sure you know about the meetings.
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I've confirmed that they've been in meetings debating who will be on the top of the ticket.
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So can you comment on that?
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You know, I have some skepticism about that.
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Michelle Obama doesn't need Hillary Clinton.
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She'd be an exceptionally strong nominee.
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The Obama's still control the machinery of the Democratic Party.
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Michelle Obama could command the money necessary to stage a viable candidacy.
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So you think she's the dark horse for the Democrats?
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There's no question about it.
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And we should not take that lightly.
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She would be an extraordinarily formidable.
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And by the way, I'm not battling down the political correctness.
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She's brown.
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But when you somebody comes from nowhere to win, it's called dark horse.
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I'm going to use the term.
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I'm not being politically correct.
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No one said she's the dark horse candidate.
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You're saying.
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She's that she's the outsider.
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She's the improbable.
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But she would be an exceptionally strong candidate.
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And we should not underestimate that very, very.
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So Michael Obama is the leader right now.
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Michelle.
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Michelle.
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Michelle.
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I'm not going to cut it.
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I've told you how I see the Democratic side shaking up, Alex.
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It's been great to be back with you.
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I miss you.
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I miss all of my colleagues at Infowars.
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I look forward to doing this again.
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Hey, let me tell you how this works.
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We're top linked on drugs, my friend.
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That means hundreds of millions of views, not tens of millions.
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You are going to stay with us.
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Five more minutes.
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I need you.
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I need you.
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I'm getting attention because you're on.
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You're doing five more minutes.
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That was that was a lot.
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It was wild.
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And one short.
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There's every single clip that you've chosen today seems to have been a very lot in a very
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small amount of time.
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I told you before we started, like it's a mess of a couple of miles.
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Yeah.
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Alex is going through a lot.
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So you've got in that clip, you've got Roger rejecting Alex's nonsense.
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No UCB.
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Which shows that Roger knows that when Alex says the CIA told him something, it's not
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true.
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Yeah.
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He knows that his sources are shit.
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And so he's like, yeah, I'm skeptical of that.
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That's nonsense, Alex.
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Michelle doesn't fucking need Hillary.
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What are you talking about?
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That's ridiculous.
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And then Alex correctly uses the term dark horse.
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No one is going to say like, that's a racist thing.
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It doesn't even sound like a dog whistle in any way.
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It just seems like a correct use of a colloquial term.
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But he is so self-conscious or whatever that he has to justify his use of the term.
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She's brown.
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Like, it's very it's it shows the mental state.
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He's keenly aware of how racist he is.
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What's weirder is that it seems he was saying, I'm not being politically correct.
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So he's not going to bow to political correctness.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It seems like he's afraid that his listeners are going to call in and be like, you should
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have called her.
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You know, like, no, I think he's more mad that he's not being offensive, maybe that
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he's more worried that his listeners will think he's going out of his way to be a fight
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to not be offensive.
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I feel like he's responding to imagined criticism that he'll get from like media matters.
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Yeah.
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It calls Michelle Obama a dark horse.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Which would never come because that would be ludicrous.
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But it is not not OK that he's still doing the she's a man narrative.
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Yeah, that's the thing that was even weirder.
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Yeah, it's like I would never be racist.
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She's a man.
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Like, wait, no, no.
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But I think part of that, that like spiraling and weirdness, I think Alex has started drinking
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by this point.
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You think so?
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Yes, because I think the interaction with Roger is not gone the way he wanted it to.
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Right, right, right.
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He was hoping for some sort of emotional recognition on Roger's part that he had wronged him.
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Right.
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He wants a catharsis.
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Yeah.
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You wouldn't call me.
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I texted you and you said gag order.
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We didn't have to talk about your case.
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I thought we were friends.
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We've been in this for years now.
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You've been on my show every day.
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My main source of information.
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I changed my brand for you, basically.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And you just threw me aside.
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He needed something.
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And I don't think he got it.
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And I think he started hitting the booze because it starts to get real weird.
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The end of this show is, I don't know how to describe it, he's clearly showing signs
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of being fucked up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So he drinks his emotions, basically.
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Yeah.
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But also, when he gets back from break, he can't stop talking about being on Drudge.
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This is a short segment, DrudgeReport.com's top-length.
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News is going to be dissecting this for weeks.
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Roger Stone's broken his silence.
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I'm Alex Jones with MFullWars.com and NewsWars.com.
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And on the next segment, the exclusive footage of thousands, not hundreds, of Ebola-potential
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infected Africans from Congo in San Antonio assaulting reporters.
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It's all coming up.
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He's really exaggerating a lot of what footage he has because he's getting some of that Drudge
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audience hoping to keep him over.
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So him and Roger wrap up the interview in a fairly boring way just because, you know,
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nothing's going to top what's already happened.
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Roger, please just tell me you love me.
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Please just tell me you love me.
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They agree to stay in touch and that he'll be back on the show, and Roger plugs his stuff
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a lot.
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Yeah.
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It's all good.
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So Alex gets back, and he's back on the Ebola bullshit.
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I have local Congonese groups saying, oh, millions are coming.
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Nope.
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More are coming.
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Yeah, we get it.
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Already happened to Europe.
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And again, I'm not even against these people, but these are uneducated people, poor people
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with diseases who come in and become creatures of the Democrats.
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You hear the way he's, like, gasping almost?
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His verbal pattern has shifted.
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It seems indicative of intoxication.
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Also, he's saying, literally, I wouldn't be mad about these people, but they're poor,
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uneducated, and diseased.
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I think you have no reason to believe that.
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I think you have no evidence of any of that.
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You don't know anything about these people.
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You don't know what economic situation any of them are in.
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You don't know their educational background.
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You're making a blanket statement based on your fucking bigotry.
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That's all you're doing, because you were a white nationalist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Trump, what was Trump?
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We want the best immigrants, and it's like, come on, man.
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Don't even bother.
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Yeah.
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So reinforcing my theory that Alex has started drinking, Owen Schroyer now, since Roger's
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gone, gets to start talking, and the two of them tag team some conspiracies about these
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immigrants.
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Okay.
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And it's kind of like, remember that interview with Corsi, where the two of them were fucking
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in sync?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is the opposite.
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This is real clunky, because one guy has clearly been drinking, and the other one has not.
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And so Owen's kind of trying to keep the ship moving forward, and Alex is just all over
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the place.
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Why do we have to take everybody in?
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Oh, by the way, but some of them, Alex, they're not coming here so downtrodden.
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They've got smartphones.
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They've got new clothes.
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No, I said that.
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This is the upper crust coming in to...
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Wait.
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I thought they were poor.
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Yeah.
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And it...
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I thought they were poor and undereducated.
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Now they're the upper crust?
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Is it bad?
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Which one is bad?
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I don't know.
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Are both bad?
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They are both bad, because they're just not white.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I'm gonna restart this clip, though, just so you can hear it all in flow.
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Why do we have to take everybody in?
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Oh, by the way, but some of them, Alex, they're not coming here so downtrodden.
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They've got smartphones.
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They've got new clothes.
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No, I said that.
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They've got the upper crust coming in to then with smugglers to create the Anchor Baby connection.
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You can do...
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You could be a world traveler.
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Some of these people traveled to 13 different countries on this ride.
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They get it all paid for.
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Wait.
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Wait a second.
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But we can't even take care of our own people.
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So look, let's be humanitarians.
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Yeah, we want to take care of people.
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And don't worry, though.
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They all want reparations.
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They already are like, America sucks.
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We're here to get the free stuff.
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And some of them in the video when I get in start chanting at me to leave.
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It's like, wait a second.
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I'm paying for you to be here, bucko.
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Oh, I love it.
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I didn't even assault you.
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It's like, hey, we're here.
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God damn.
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Excuse me, Lord.
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Give us your money, bitch.
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That's amazing.
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That is amazing.
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The apologizing.
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I'm sorry, Lord.
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And then swearing again.
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He is untethered at this point in the show.
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God damn.
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I'm sorry, Lord.
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Jesus fucking Christ.
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These people are coming over.
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It's wild.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's an Anchor Baby scam now.
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I mean, he's all over the place with the theory.
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You know, like the theory is completely lost whatever beginning it had.
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It is now grown to like it's everything.
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It's all of his narratives wrapped in one.
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And it gets worse in this next clip because he takes it.
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He takes it to another place that he has no reason to take it.
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Can you believe that only drugs report dot com covered this and the videos like you think
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America will want to know, like people from an Ebola country.
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Thousands are pouring in buses all day or pulling up.
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People are going God knows where not vetted.
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They admit 30 percent up in sex slavery.
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They don't give a rat's behind, baby, because it's our bar that you just saw.
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This is this is the leftist take down of the country.
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I don't like how much he's saying, baby.
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Quite frankly, that's evidence of him drinking.
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It's off putting.
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God damn.
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Also that I guess they're Muslims now.
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They're also Muslims.
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Why does he think that?
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Because they're not like they're not like us, Dan.
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I don't know what they're not like us.
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They're Muslim.
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I do not know what he's doing, man.
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Like for this entire episode, the attacks on the refugees from the Congo were pretty
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focused.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like at least the first couple hours of the show and the 10th June 10th episode,
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it was disgusting stuff and completely inaccurate and based on overt white nationalism.
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But it went down a pretty straight line of the Ebola fear.
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Yeah.
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And at the end of the show, I think he's had a few drinks.
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Now these folks are Muslims who want to take down America.
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If Alex knew anything about the topics he covered on air, he would know that according
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to the Pew Research Center, Congo's population is 96 percent Christian.
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Only about one percent of the country is Muslim, which is not too much higher than the U.S.
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percentage, which is 0.8 percent.
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I really think Alex started drinking during the commercial breaks when Roger was on because
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he knew the drudge was linked to him.
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So he was drinking out of a drudge mug.
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He had a drudge mug on camera.
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And Owen seems pretty annoyed.
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Like if you're watching the video, he doesn't seem to be enjoying the exchange all too much.
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Alex's behavior has completely changed.
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It's very insane.
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He's trying to work in all the different groups he hates to build up this conspiracy and Owen's
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just trying to keep the ball moving forward because he's proud of whatever field piece
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he did.
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This is a sad, disgusting picture and it doesn't get better.
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Yeah, I would like to know what he's drinking because he's only on air for three hours and
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he's he's really he's he's ahead of the game.
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I would say it takes I mean, at a reasonable rate, it takes me longer than three hours
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to get to.
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I think it's their Muslims coming in really low.
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Could be because of his lack of oxygen.
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I don't know if that's the case, but, you know, there are people respond to substances
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differently.
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That's true.
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But he has a thing where he drinks a bit, gets pretty drunk pretty quick, and then can
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keep maintain a long time.
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Yeah, that's that's good stuff.
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Yeah.
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People people respond differently.
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Sometimes people pass out.
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Some don't.
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Who knows?
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I just be his biology.
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I am furious at anyone who says, why are we why do we have to be the ones who take them
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in?
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Sure.
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I hate that.
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I hate that so much because that's why do we have to be the ones?
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Because that's who we fucking are.
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Yeah.
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That was the whole gig, man.
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It was a big it was a big part of this American idea.
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You know, that's why we take them in, because that's what originally drew people to this
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stupid fucking country.
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And all of these different other countries aren't the melting pot that we are.
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That's why people thought we were so great.
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And now they see us for the white nationalist dumbasses that we are.
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And that's what's fucking going down.
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Yep.
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You piece of shit, Troyer.
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Well, hey, don't talk bad about him.
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He's one of the only people left in this country.
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Sure.
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He's a brave American.
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I don't think so.
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Just me having the courage of going in there and asking a question, I could tell that some
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of the people in there were like, whoa, there's an American actually standing up for America
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right now.
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This is not good for us.
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We heard this is a country of slaves.
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And then we're somehow bad, Alex.
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The most humanitarian aid given out to foreign countries.
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They all want to get here.
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And then once it's all free, we suck and white people are bad.
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I agree.
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White people are bad.
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I agree with Salon and CNN.
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White people are evil.
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Man, he is going through something.
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But I want to talk about what Owen Troyer said, not the part about him being a brave
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American and all that stuff.
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But to his question about why the US is, if the US is so bad, why do we give out so much
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foreign aid?
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I mean, I have an answer, but I'm not going to provide that answer because I have a way
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more fun way to respond without getting into how resources are misdirected and all that
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sort of shit.
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Before Trump came along, the only politician Alex and Infowars completely supported was
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Ron Paul.
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He was the gold standard among all politicians, and Alex's operation was fully behind his
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runs for president in 2008 and 2012.
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Alex loved Ron Paul so much that he even supported his wet noodle of a son, Rand.
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One of Ron Paul's signature issues was his proposal to literally abolish all foreign
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aid, a position that even former Alex Jones guest Webster Tarpley has set his tantamount
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to willing genocide into existence.
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Even figures who were fairly conservative look on Ron Paul's approach to this issue
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as manifestly cruel and really fucked up.
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But this is Alex's favorite politician of all time, and I've never heard him say something
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like, I love Ron Paul, but I think he's a little out there on wanting to stop sending
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emergency aid to places.
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What I'm getting at is that when you exist within a propaganda organization that carried
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water for a Muppet-voiced asshole who's dead set on eliminating foreign aid for over a
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decade, you don't get any points from bringing up how great this country is for providing
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foreign aid, something you're manifestly against.
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My point here, Owen Schroyer is very stupid, and his whole operation exists as an opportunistically
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abusive machine.
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InfoWars supported Ron Paul's desire to abolish foreign aid because it would hurt other people
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and presumably provide more money for, quote unquote, us.
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Now they're perfectly happy to act like they support foreign aid so they can use said aid
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as a weapon to shame immigrants and refugees.
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This is crucial to understand.
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What they're doing appears on the surface to be hypocritical.
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But if you understand what it was about their former position and their present actions,
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it becomes clear that what motivates both is the same, a hatred of people unlike themselves.
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That's key.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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At a certain point, do you think they're going to go all the way around and be like, hey,
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we're going to start sending more foreign aid so you don't come here?
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It would be an interesting argument for them to try and make.
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I would see if they could do that.
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I don't think they ever could because it would probably involve increased taxation, so their
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base would turn on them for that.
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But I don't know.
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It would be an interesting attempt on their part to make a compromise between these weird
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beliefs.
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I don't know.
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I don't think that they value cruelty more than anything else, so I don't think they
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would do that.
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I would say so.
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Yeah.
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Because it would be like decreased cruelty and increased taxes.
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Nope.
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That is a non-starter.
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But that's the worst thing that I could possibly think of.
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So now at this point, Roger has left, and Owen's still there.
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But Alex has another guest who comes in, and that is Caitlin Bennett, the girl who is most
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famous for walking around Kent State with a gun.
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Yeah, she's great.
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She has been a humiliating douche since then.
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Got involved with Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization, and then I guess wasn't.
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She's great.
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She's all over the place.
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I don't really have many feelings about her other than this is a fucked up appearance
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that she has on the show.
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Because she starts talking about an interaction that she had when she was out making a field
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piece for Infowars.
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And what she's clearly describing is someone who was willing to talk to her until they
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realized who she was.
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But she's describing it as like, they turned in the middle of the interview.
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It's just very bizarre to see this kind of lack of awareness.
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Probably intentionally.
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Yeah.
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But the guy in the white shirt that said nobody is illegal, I actually had a good conversation
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with him and we actually interviewed him and he gave a pretty good answer.
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It wasn't a bad answer, it wasn't a clickbait answer.
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And then it's like he realized, oh crap, Iris remembered my program is working now.
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I don't like her.
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So he went and got his dad and then his dad and himself teamed up and decided that they
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were going to come attack me for no reason.
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I mean, he's old enough to know not to act like this.
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He's old enough to know.
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And then he's teaching his son to treat women like that.
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And these are the real Democrats that are out there.
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This is not a minority.
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People say that this is a minority in the Democratic Party and it's not.
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This happens all the time to me.
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If it were a minority, it wouldn't happen every time I go out.
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Well I think that the only thing that's the same every time you go out is you.
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So if the same thing seems to be happening every time you go out, you've got to realize
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that the only variable that is the same in all of those circumstances is what you bring
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to it.
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I don't understand.
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She doesn't either.
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No, I believe all Democrats are programmed to attack.
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I think she's specifically trying to say that it's all women as well.
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I guess.
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It's all sexist men, which if she's receiving a bunch of, and I'm sure she is receiving
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a bunch of shit bag attacks from the quote unquote left on Twitter.
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I certainly, oh yeah, probably.
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On social media.
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Yeah, I guarantee it.
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I guarantee it.
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And that's bad.
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That's wrong.
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In the videos that she put out, I don't know why I did this to myself, but I did watch
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a bunch of them.
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And I don't see that being represented in those videos.
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It probably does exist in some form.
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Yeah.
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And that's wrong.
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Yeah, totally.
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That's absolutely wrong, period.
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Totally.
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But if you're a fucking asshole to people on the street like you are, then be prepared
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for them to be a dick back to you.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Yeah.
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And the idea that he didn't know who she was and then got the sense of like, oh, she's
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poking.
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Yeah.
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She's trying to antagonize me.
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Maybe I know who she is.
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Maybe I don't.
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I don't want to talk to you anymore.
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That's not your programming kicking in.
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That's realizing the conversation you're in is with someone who has bad faith.
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How is it deciding I'm done with this?
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Yeah.
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How old was the person?
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Probably mid-twenties.
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Mid-twenties.
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And they just went...
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Maybe younger.
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Yeah.
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It's hard for me to tell anymore.
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Yeah.
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He was youthful though, for sure.
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He was a youth.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And we'll get more into her videos here in a second because like I said, I did watch
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a bunch of them and they're dog shit.
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But Alex is really on this thing where he's like, I send Millie and Caitlin out there
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and they just get attacked.
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All these dudes attack them.
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They attack them and I can't stand that.
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I can't believe these people aren't chivalrous and my women are out there on the streets
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and they're being attacked.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to be misogynist in the middle of decrying misogyny.
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But it's for a reason.
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Right.
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And here's the reason.
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And I told Millie, I said, Millie, you got to stop going out in public.
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She said, no, I'm going to keep doing it.
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This is the right thing.
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And we're not trying to be victims here, folks.
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These are women getting beat up and I'm literally looking at the bills and what we're under
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here and I don't, I want to hire more reporters, but let me tell you something.
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I need to be able to send registered armed men who are off duty police.
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Those are $50 to $100 an hour for high conflict stuff.
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The Gilbins are a hundred bucks an hour.
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I've got all the former Blackwater people ready.
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What?
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We're going to do an extra $10,000 a month.
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We'll have our women defended here.
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That's crazy.
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There's a lot of craziness in there.
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First of all, what you responded to that he has Blackwater ready to go.
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That's not good.
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No, it's not.
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That's not good.
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Alex, your past self would tell you do not work with Blackwater.
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They are evil mercenaries.
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Yeah.
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You remember all those war crimes that Blackwater committed?
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Or hey, Alex, you remember all the times you talked about Blackwater being a bunch of war
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criminals?
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Yeah, you didn't like Blackwater.
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No, you didn't.
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Something changed.
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Yeah.
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Curious.
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They're trying to bring their perceived victimhood to try and raise $10,000 and more, which is
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fucked up.
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We can't send women out there.
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They're too weak by themselves.
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And then you know what's even more fucked up?
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What happened to open carry?
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What happened to your whole idea of Michael Moore is a hypocrite because he has armed
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guards when everyone should just carry guns themselves?
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Why not just give Millie and her a gun?
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Or you give Caitlin a gun?
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Dan, they're ladies.
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We're trying to be chivalrous, Dan.
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We can't allow the women to be in any kind of conflict.
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I don't think that that's what's motivating Alex.
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I think it's that he knows that that's bullshit.
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He needs a show of force around them or some sort of intimidation, but he doesn't want
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them actually having guns.
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Of course not.
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He doesn't want these things escalating.
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He just wants a big muscle around them.
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Infowars' former Blackwater bodyguard killed one person today in a quote, self-defense.
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I mean, it does come down to the misogyny of chivalry too.
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It really is in there.
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I don't know.
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100%.
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So I don't know why I did this to myself, but because Alex kept going on and on about
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these assaults and stuff, I decided I would watch all of Caitlin's videos that she just
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put out from when she went down to Pride and she's playing the victim super aggressively.
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She was looking for a soul to steal.
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I've never watched any long stretches of her work in the past.
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And man, she is fucking incompetent as a person on the street.
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Like that style of bit, she is fucking trash at this.
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The only value that she has in that field as a person on the street reporter is that
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she doesn't stop talking.
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That's basically the only thing.
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If I were giving a performance review, that would be in the pros.
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Everything else would be in the negatives.
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Like you are, you don't stop.
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That's I mean, that's what we're looking for.
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So the assault that she suffered is that some girl bumped into her and then pretended that
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she had gotten pushed.
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And that's why she bumped into lame.
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That's it.
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Lame.
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Later, a cop talks to her because a ton of people complained about her behavior and warns
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her that if there are more complaints, she might get charged with disorderly conduct,
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which is just, I mean, that's something that happens if you're disrupting people.
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You know, that's, that's the consequence of your behavior, right?
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Caitlyn then complains that she's been assaulted.
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And so the cop asks if she'd like to file a complaint.
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He was very helpful.
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He's like, okay, well, let's, you know, do you want to file a complaint about that?
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Because we can.
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Caitlyn then realizes that she has the assault on camera, so she considers filing a complaint.
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But then she realizes that if she does, the cop will have to take her camera as evidence
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to investigate the complaint and she won't be able to post this video to rile up her
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fans and get the attention that she so desperately wants.
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Immediately she's clear about not wanting to file a report and starts reframing the
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situation as the police wanting to confiscate her property.
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The cop handles himself quite well, making it clear to her that he knows what game she's
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playing and that if she wants to file a complaint, they can do it.
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But if she keeps bothering people, then there might be another complaint.
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She might be asked to leave.
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She just keeps, keeps asking like she's being oppressed by this cop explaining to her that
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there are consequences for your actions.
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If you're out in public and people keep complaining about your behavior, you might be asked to
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leave a place.
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Free speech.
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Well, sure.
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Free speech.
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You do have free speech.
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Free speech.
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Right.
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But I mean, if you're drunkenly yelling at somebody, you could be asked to leave somewhere,
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even if it's a public place.
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You're right.
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They are absolutely suppressing the free speech rights of alcoholics in bars these days.
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This might be a case.
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We need to set up an alcoholic Twitter.
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Alex is going to take this up.
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You might, you might run with this one.
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Trump is going to launch a drunk Twitter.
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Yeah.
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I thought this was a really pathetic display, this video.
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I mean, obviously this girl shouldn't have bumped her, but in the scale of things, it's
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like, this is fucking lame.
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Yeah.
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That said, there is one woman in this video that I think is the fucking coolest.
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So Caitlin's out there pretending to want to interview people and then just being like,
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she's just antagonizing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then there's this clearly drunk girl with blue hair that just has her phone pointed
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at Caitlin and she keeps saying, you're the gun girl and then like, she just keeps cracking
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herself up.
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She's like, it's the gun girl and it's, oh man, it made me laugh so hard.
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That's so good.
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It's the closest thing to actual joy that has ever been on video with an Infowars watermark.
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Yeah.
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It's delightful.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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See, now that's so much more effective than any kind of argument.
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Make her look silly.
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Yeah.
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Don't bother with like, what are you, what are you political positions?
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No, no, you're the, you're the lady who got hit with a milkshake.
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You are a lady who got, oh, milkshake lady.
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Don't do that because that feeds into their victimhood complex.
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Right, right, right.
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Make fun of something that they presumably are proud of.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Piddle something that is an imagined accomplishment.
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I took a picture with a gun, blah.
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Yeah.
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You're the gun girl.
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The amount that this girl was sincerely laughing about the idea that Caitlin Bennett exists
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is so delightful.
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I loved it.
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That is great.
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So then there's another clip that she has that's from a Pete Buttigieg rally, and a
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guy did knock her camera out of her assistant's hand in that video.
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And you know, based on what she has on film, it looks kind of egregious.
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Yeah.
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But it's unclear what happened before this.
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The video is clearly edited to make it look like it was a completely unprompted thing,
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but it doesn't seem like it is.
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Caitlin's entire brand is poking people to try and antagonize them into yelling at her
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so she can prove her victimhood.
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Right.
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Obviously, he shouldn't have touched her or her camera, but from watching the footage,
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I definitely don't think it accurately portrays their interaction.
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It's propaganda, and the message is that Caitlin is a victim of leftist violence.
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That's what the video is actually about.
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It's not about Pete Buttigieg or his supporters at all.
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The message is leftists are attacking this saintly white woman.
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Yeah.
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That's what's going on.
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Yeah.
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In the last two and a half years that we've been doing this show, I've listened to thousands
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of hours of Alex Jones' show.
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And I would do that all over again before I watched another 20 minutes of Caitlin Bennett
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doing whatever it is she does.
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It's just bad faith trolling masquerading as journalism.
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And more than that, it's super boring.
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The way she misinterprets news, it's not interesting, and she's not even really clever enough to
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spin her way out of most interactions with the people she's talking to.
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For instance, at that Pride rally, some of the attendees are saying to her that she has
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no reason to be there and she just loves the attention, to which she responds, and I'm
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getting it, and I'm getting it.
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I love it.
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A propagandist in better control of themselves wouldn't allow that sort of optic to exist
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when it's really easy just to counter with something like, what needs attention is how
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intolerant the left is, or some dumb shit like that.
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She doesn't even have the chops to think on her feet on that basic level.
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It's just a disgraceful display.
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But bottom line, she sucks.
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That girl shouldn't have bumped into her.
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But honestly, I lose my ability to care about her complaints when a cop directly offered
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to take a complaint and file it for her multiple times, and she decided not to because it would
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slow down the release of this propaganda victimhood baiting video.
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So I decided to look into her a little bit because of how extreme Alex is and her praise
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of her and how fucked up it is, all these assaults and stuff.
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So that's why we're talking about it a little bit.
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I promise I'm not going to talk about her ever again.
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I don't find her interesting.
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Like I was trying to find a way to capture this, and I'm not entirely sure this is going
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to make sense.
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But one of the things that makes Alex's propaganda interesting is it's complicated.
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There's a bunch of things he's pretending to reference.
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The stories aren't easily...
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If I were sitting down with him talking about stuff, most of the time I couldn't rebut what
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he's saying with like, oh, you just misunderstand this.
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With Caitlin, it's so easy to just be like, oh, you just don't know what that word means.
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It's just like, oh, no, I understand what the misunderstanding.
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The willful misinterpretations are surface level that she's doing, and it's just dumb.
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I hate to say that it's beneath the class of folk that I want to look at.
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Why would you hate to say it?
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It is beneath the class of the folks that you want to look at.
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Fair enough.
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So in this next clip, Alex talks about some rich oil families in Texas that he's related
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to.
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Yeah, I'm surprised.
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And he says something very interesting.
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I want to hire security for these ladies.
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Folks, I know all these Texas oil families that I'm related to.
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I never got any money from it.
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They're like, oh, you're doing great, Alex.
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These people have helicopter pads.
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It sounds like they have mansions all over the world, but they never give a damn dime
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to freedom.
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He says that they have helicopter pads.
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Never give a damn dime to freedom.
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No stingy.
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I have literally never heard Alex talk about people in Texas who have helicopter pads who
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are super rich, except when he's been specifically describing the people who tried to lure him
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into Satanism when he was younger.
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The only other time helicopter pads in Texas have come up with rich people.
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He's related to the Satanists who tried to lure him as a child, further reinforcing your
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argument.
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I think he's a Satanist.
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I think he's a Satanist.
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Dan, I think I accidentally stumbled onto something brilliant.
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I think that that's possible and I want that to be a case.
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The other possibility is that like this imagined rich mansion with helicopter pads is the only
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thing his brain can really pull up as an image of this like high class, opulent wealth kind
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of thing.
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And so when he needs to describe the Satanists as like really rich helicopter pad, that's
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what he goes to.
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I think it's either he's a Satanist or he has a childish imagination that only has a
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few stops along the way.
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You know, and it does actually, it makes perfect sense that he has a childhood imagination
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regarding wealth because that is how people view, like that's Trump's whole brand.
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His whole brand is a very like, you know, unsubtle view of what wealth means.
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You mean his gold apartment?
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Yeah.
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He's always got to be displaying wealth.
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And so, so many people.
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It's performative.
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Yeah.
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And that's not, you know, so of course Jones would get on his train because look, it's
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the very picture of what I see as success.
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Yeah.
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And it makes it that much worse that immediately back in 2015, Alex was like, all that wealth
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is bullshit.
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Exactly.
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He's pretending.
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Exactly.
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So in this next clip, man, one of the things I love the most about Alex Jones from 10 years
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ago is hearing him sing along with the highway men.
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And it turns out Alex, when he's drunk in 2019, also likes to talk about the highway
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men and it's not as fun anymore, silver bullet from info war store.com before and after I
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was in the Ebola camp, just a touch of sadness and thunder and lightening their thighs.
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I've never seen anybody attack women in public.
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Cowards do it in private.
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The fact that the left attacks women in public everywhere is a sign of their downfall.
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Whatever.
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I like that Owen is trying to do a plug, like he's pretty smooth there, but it turns out
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Alex likes Waylon Jennings more than he likes selling silver bullet.
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I like that on a, on a professional show.
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At one point the guy's like, shut up, shut up, shut up.
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This is my favorite song.
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Shut up, shut up, shut up.
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Get out of here.
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I know that moment, man.
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I've been there.
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Yeah, I know.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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That's, that's fine, but we can't, we can't be doing that.
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It's a bad look.
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Speaking of bad looks, uh, Caitlin's still there.
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I'm not saying this about her looks, I'm saying the way Alex behaves in this clip is a bad
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look because he starts talking about how great she is.
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Um, and he slips at the end of this Caitlin Bennett, you know, I haven't watched your
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work for like the last year and a half since you went public at Penn state.
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It was Kent state.
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And since you've done that, you have been on fire and you put up with the lies.
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You put up with the fake dis info pieces.
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They put out against you, the same things to me, the same fake memes, and you've embraced
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it.
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Let me tell you something.
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I salute you and I've got three daughters and I hope that my daughters grow to be like
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you.
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I admire you.
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I love you.
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I envy your fiance.
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I love my wife.
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I'm not saying I want to, you know, try to marry.
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I'm saying I am envious of you.
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Why are you envious of her fiance?
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Why would they, why would you say, why would you say something like that?
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You know, I get that as like a, a, an oblique, uh, compliment.
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Like the idea of being like, Hey, you're so great.
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I'm envious of your husband or your fiance forgetting to be with you.
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Not necessarily meaning, you know, let's bang, but Alex means let's bang.
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I, yeah, it's not, it's not an appropriate thing to say.
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It sounds like something that a dad, a drunk dad would say at a wedding.
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Gross, exactly.
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I think, I think it's a real, real slip.
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Uh, I, cause look, what, what does Alex know about Caitlin's fiance?
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That he exists.
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Yeah.
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That's about it.
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That he gets to be with her.
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Right.
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That is about it.
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That's all he knows.
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Yeah.
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I'm envious of your fiance.
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That's gross.
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Um, so in this next clip, like you're saying Alex is drunk.
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You haven't heard from drunk yet.
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Where he starts to give a speech about gender and it's a very interesting, it's a very interesting
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perspective that he's bringing to the table.
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No, but the truth is every woman is half her father.
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Every son is half his mother.
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We are unified.
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There is no sex.
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We are units.
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Humans are unified in total collectivism of the genetics of the species, but individualism
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manifest the resistance and manifest the grace, destiny and the enemy fears of the destiny.
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Cool.
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I left that pause in there because it's a bit of a time before anyone responds.
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It's like, Alex, you don't know what you're even saying, Alex.
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Those words, I, those words all mean things, but when you put them together, they don't
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mean anything.
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So I guess, I mean, I guess he's saying that like there is no a clear cut genders and all
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that stuff.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Congratulations, Alex.
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You've, you've come around to the thing you scream against all the time.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say you're no longer transphobic.
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No, he still is.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay.
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Nevermind.
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He's just drunk.
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Oh, okay.
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So in this next clip, Alex again is expressing a bizarre level of drunkenness and they're
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still on this gender tip and Caitlin starts discussing about how she believes that gender
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roles and specific gender roles are what gives society its strength.
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And then Alex responds very bizarrely.
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You know, there, there's a lot of people, a lot of Democrats and feminists, and I know
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I keep saying it, but they think it's worse to be a mother and want to be a home taker
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and take care of your family.
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They berate women who want to simply just be moms or be feminine or wear high heels
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and wear pink and have those gender roles.
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There's nothing wrong with having these gender roles because that what makes up our society.
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That's why the American culture is so strong is because we have gender roles.
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The high heels, all of it is putting on a pedestal.
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It's on a pedestal and you should be ship mama.
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Whoa.
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Whoa.
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That's weird.
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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You should mama.
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You know, in the same way that I, I like empathize with the situation where Alex is gonna is
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getting tossed aside and no loyalty from Roger Stone.
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In the same way it's like with her and Alex, I get you, uh, you support right wing positions
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and everything.
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It's a good scam.
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But you're going to be treated like a second class citizen.
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So you know, I, he's going to be a shit asshole to you.
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So fucking I, I'm sorry, but, uh, yeah, it's a, it's a world where everyone is getting
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one up on each other.
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It's hard to figure out anytime you should care.
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Yeah.
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Um, one thing that I think is really important to discuss here, and I think it's one of those
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like really surface level misunderstandings that Caitlin has, is that if anybody thinks
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that wearing pink or being a mother is somehow against feminism or is against the principles
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of the left or anything like that, then they're a shithead.
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And I don't think there are many people who actually believe that.
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I think that the surface level misunderstanding that she has is the idea that people should
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be felt like made to feel like they need to subscribe to these gender roles is the problem.
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The idea that these traditionally feminine ideas are what you must subscribe to, what
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you must manifest, you need to have children or else you're not a full woman.
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Those sorts of ideas are the things that feminism and people on the left are opposed to.
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Well, that was one of the central conflicts of second wave feminism is whether or not
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it was like the driver was absolutely rejecting all of these gender roles and acting out in
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that, uh, you know, we can no longer just be considered mothers and all of that stuff.
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And if you do participate in those behaviors, you are shackling yourself in the, to the
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same bullshit that they've always done.
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What social context did that exist in?
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Exactly.
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What social context do we exist in now?
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Exactly.
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Which is why there are other waves of feminism that it didn't stop with second wave feminism.
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It continued moving on.
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And the evolution now is very much, uh, like feel, choose as long as you have agency and
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complete agency, then you're good.
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Yeah.
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I know someone who has a daughter and, uh, they're trying to raise that with the understanding
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that like, I'm not giving you gendered toys.
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I'm not going to give, like, I'm not going to make your bedroom pink, not going to give
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a Barbie dolls and things that are like over the top, just puzzles and, and toys that are
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agendered.
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Um, and that isn't something that is like, should you gravitate towards those things?
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I will stop you from playing with them.
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It's just that I won't make it the expectation for you.
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I think that that's the subtle difference that people like Caitlin and Alex don't understand
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and push back on as if it were a condemnation of the feminine, right?
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If you want to subscribe to a gender role, because that's what you want.
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Who gives a shit?
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I don't think anyone is opposed to that or at least most people.
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Yeah, I was going to say there are some people, but that's not indicative of the group.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, currently I, uh, I clean the whole day and I take care of, uh, all the
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animals and all that stuff I am feeling, you know, and I cook, so I'm feeling what would
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be considered the traditional gender role.
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And nobody is like, how dare you act like that?
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Get a, you know, the people who have these ideas in their head and are like really rigid
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about them are the people on the right.
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And the people who are in these traditional, uh, expectations, fears, because people like
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Lauren Southern have come out and talked about how they don't want necessarily to be a housewife
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and have to raise kids.
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And then their fan base is like, got pretty mad about that.
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Of course.
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They are the ones who are imposing something on other people as opposed to like, I don't
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have any, I don't, I don't know.
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I can't speak for everybody, but anything about Caitlin Bennett that I've ever been
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offended by has nothing to do with her wearing dresses and, uh, you know, having long hair
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and the things that she brings up as her feminine, um, role or whatever it's everything to do
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with the behavior.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and so I, I just wish that they'd get a little more nuanced, but they can't because
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it's an intentional misunderstanding.
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Yeah.
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And also some of that gender role stuff is self justifying along the way is like, it
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is, it is comforting to believe if you are in a gender role that you are where you are
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supposed to be and watching people do stuff that you feel like you can't, you then have
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to be like, well, no, that's because they're wrong.
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Otherwise you're going to have to do a lot of self reflecting on all of that.
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And that's probably in the mix too.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip, but it's a pretty long one because Alex, like I said, you can
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tell that he's drunk.
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You can tell that he's fucked up and he's like, yeah, I'm jealous of your fiance, gender
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roles are to put women on pedestals, mommy, um, he's all over the place.
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And so he comes back after Caitlin leaves and Owen's gone and I've never done this before,
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but I'm going to play an entire segment commercial to commercial of his last, uh, on the 11th,
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his last commercial break before he hands the Baton off to Paul Joseph Watson to host
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the fourth hour, because it is an absurd, uh, thing.
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And I think, you know, I don't think people understand like, uh, like what his show sometimes
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is like, this is an entire segment.
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You know, I want to get this out front for people because I'm not a dramatic person,
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but, uh, they've got some really bad forces circling me right now, which is fine.
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I expected this.
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I wanted to fight.
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I actually feel good.
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Weird thing is I see evil stuff going on and really bad people after me, I'm like, damn,
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I'm doing my job.
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It's like, I see it like dollar signs for Jesus, but for, for humanity, for our future,
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I see it like winning the, the, the lottery and they like, don't you know, well, we'll
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do this.
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We'll do that.
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Yeah, no, I, that's why I did what I did 25 years ago.
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Uh, but, uh, they are really pissed off right now.
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Who and you can feel in, in the middle of 2019 that we're entering that crossroads right
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now together.
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And, uh, you know, I've seen things out of my fellow Americans that make me ashamed to
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be an American.
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But I've also seen things from my fellow Americans that make me proud to be an American.
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We're a minute in and he hasn't said anything.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He said nothing.
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No, he said that they are coming to get him and that makes him feel good.
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Uh, cause that means he's doing the right thing.
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Some things Americans do great.
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Some bad lotteries.
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Uh, this is like, it's, it's, uh, nothing.
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These words mean nothing.
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They're so vague.
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This is bullshit.
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And that's really the paradox here.
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You've got this commitment for me.
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One trillion percent.
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I won't sell out one damn piece of our agenda.
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I will settle it.
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Never back down 1%.
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In fact, I'll probably die of a heart attack, worried that I'm not fighting as hard as I
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can.
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And that's nothing special.
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That's what it's like to be red blooded.
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But I just am so blessed in 2019 to know all of you when I shake your hands on the street,
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when I read your emails and I see what you're doing, your hopes and dreams.
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And I just wish that I was wiser.
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You know, like the Bible says, I wish I was wise.
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Matthew 11 serpent, peaceful as a dove, whatever.
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I'll be honest.
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We know because I've been far beyond the realms of death.
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You're not wise as a serpent, peaceful as a dove because you're dumb and violent.
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I've seen the enemy.
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I've seen their plan.
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I've, I've seen what they, what they're, what they're currently doing.
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It's just so crazy.
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You're like, why would this happen?
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You're so close.
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It wouldn't good men and good women were just trying to live our lives.
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And because we weren't satanic, we could never imagine people were, well, let me tell you
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something folks, evil is as real as the sun coming up in the morning.
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Okay.
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And as Thomas Jefferson said 40 something years ago, let's hear this, all that evil
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men and tyrants seem to flourish is that good men do nothing.
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So this isn't a Thomas Jefferson quote.
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Nope.
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I was very excited when he said it.
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I was, once he said like Thomas Jefferson said, I was like, Ooh, who actually said what
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you're about to say.
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I mean, that's a real quote, but Alex is clearly fucking up the attribution.
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It's actually really interesting the way he's doing it because very commonly that quote
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is erroneously attributed to Edmund Burke.
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JFK even made that mistake in a speech he delivered back in 1961, but there's no record
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of Edmund Burke ever saying that.
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The quote traces back to the philosopher, John Stuart Mill.
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The original quote is, quote, bad men need nothing more to compass their ends than that
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good men should look on and do nothing.
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From that point forward, it was a game of telephone until somebody found the right phrasing
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of John Stuart Mill's words.
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I can't even find any real evidence that anyone other than Alex thinks that's a Jefferson
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quote.
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Point is, every single time Alex Jones tries to quote Thomas Jefferson, it's a completely
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fake quote or something someone else said.
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He's a complete idiot and he knows literally nothing about the person who is his hero.
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Yeah.
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That is really funny that he quotes Thomas Jefferson all the time, all the time.
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And yet he's never, does he know anything that Thomas Jefferson said?
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He has some lore.
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Is that an issue?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's a big issue.
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And it's crazy to me because I'm not, I don't think we've forced it or anything like this,
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but it has become a thing where you hear him bring up Thomas Jefferson and you're like,
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nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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Yeah.
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I'm on a preemptive and be like, get that name out your mouth.
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Yeah.
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It's like, uh, Alex, come on, man.
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And I'm going to tell you how the universe works.
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I don't have all the answers, but let me tell you something.
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As Martin Luther King said, justice, the universe bends towards justice.
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So I'm going to tell you a little secret.
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So that's not a Martin Luther King Jr. quote.
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Nope.
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That is something he said, but it is not a quote of his per se.
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The metaphor of the arc of the universe being long, but bending towards justice was something
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that had a long tradition when he used it in his 1956 statement after the Montgomery
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bus boycott.
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The first person to be credited with this expression is Theodore Parker, a Unitarian
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minister and noted abolitionist who included the phrasing in his 1853 book, 10 Sermons
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of Religion.
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This one's more acceptable for Alex to not know the history of because Martin Luther
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King did make it much more popular, but I've made it my mission in life to explain how
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all Alex really knows are sound bites and he has no idea of the context any of the things
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he talks about exists in.
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Both Martin Luther King and Theodore Parker would have hated Alex Jones and everything
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he stands for.
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So all this is bullshit.
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Alex is stupid.
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Little secret.
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If you don't stand up against evil, you might be a redneck.
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God doesn't recognize you.
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Oh, sorry.
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So close.
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It doesn't matter if you know about good and evil.
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It doesn't matter if you know the secrets of the universe or good and evil.
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If you don't stand up against evil and if you don't take licks for the truth, God will
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reject you.
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So I'll tell you again, taking Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior is important, but
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if you really take Jesus Christ, if you're Lord and Savior, you're going to stand up
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against evil.
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So I don't think he said really much of anything at this point.
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I have not heard anything specific.
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It's all vague platitudes and secrets of the universe and all this weird, believable shit.
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He reminds me of somebody channeling someone saying, you don't need to do a different voice.
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It's someone who thinks they have something profound to say and doesn't.
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But I want to make this clear.
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I haven't edited this at all.
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This is the entire segment.
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We are just pausing it at points.
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It's that simple.
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So you look at this whole devil worshiping world, you say, oh, God doesn't exist, all
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that.
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As you watch world government and Mark of the beast being openly manifest and you don't
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think God's real, ladies and gentlemen, I'll give you a newsflash.
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God's real.
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The Holy Ghost is real.
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Jesus Christ is real.
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And Satan and Baphomet and all of his millions of servants are real.
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We're throwing the Bible.
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That's old.
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Baby, that ain't old.
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Baby, that ain't old.
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The Bible.
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Dusty Rhodes.
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What does he do?
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He calls God, creating a whole new group of people that have free will like he does on
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a planet.
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But realizing those children are going to have to face free will.
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Ah, are they?
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And so God had one rule.
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If I'm going to give birth to billions of free consciousness creatures, I'm going to
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have to let my failure Lucifer upon them.
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That's the only rule.
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God had one rule.
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If I'm going to make humans, I'm going to sic the devil on them.
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As Thomas Jefferson said, you better sic the devil on him, otherwise it's going to be law.
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And God said, I want company in the universe.
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I want a future.
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I'm lonely.
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I'm going to have these children and I'm going to let Satan attack them.
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Because they deserve to be free will.
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You don't give somebody free will without giving them control.
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You don't create big tech robots that follow the system.
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Cool.
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Is this about Facebook?
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If you're going to have a child like any adult child or the devil, they're going to die someday.
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To give birth to a child is to give death.
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To have a child is a human sacrifice.
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Pause that.
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That's what a Satanist would say.
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Pause that.
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To have a child is to give birth to death.
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Ooh.
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Wow.
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Alex, you've got a great dorm here.
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I love the black light posters, but I got to get the fuck out of here.
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I got to go.
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I got to go home.
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Look, the six pack is gone.
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I got to be gone too.
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I really, really love your Einstein with his tongue out poster.
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I think it's really cool.
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Yeah.
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The beads in front of the door.
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Perfect.
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To the universe, to God.
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Think about that.
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Think about that.
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You have a child.
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You're turning them loose in the universe like a ship with little sail on this big ocean
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of consciousness.
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Children are fish.
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And so that's God's big secret.
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What is that?
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He so loved the world.
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He sent his only begotten son so that anyone that believed upon him will be given eternal
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life.
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You think that's stupid.
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That's some preacher.
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That's real.
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It's free will.
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No, it's stupid.
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God's big secret is the verse in the Bible that literally everyone knows.
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Yes.
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That's a poorly kept secret.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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God gave you consciousness, but you've got to decide that of all these systems, you want
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to follow God's program.
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It's a program.
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You're like walking into Best Buy saying, I want the Jesus Christ program from the creator
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of the planet.
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I want that.
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God's like, oh, you want the program?
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Here's the program.
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By the way, there's going to be some problems before you get past the launch phase because
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nothing's free.
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You're like, well, I still want the program.
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OK, well, the wages, sins or death, this is eternal life.
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But you're going to get tested a little because, you know, you never got a job or built a house
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or had a life without cost.
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God's like, I just want to make sure before we go to the next level, because there's something
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big going on up there, you can all kind of feel there's something big going on.
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This is where things, I mean, it's already way off the rails.
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But Alex says something coming up that you might need to brace yourself for.
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OK, so pre-NOAH was God's alpha testing phase.
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Post-NOAH was the beta test.
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Post-Jesus is full on Mac OS.
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Like that's what we're talking?
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I don't know enough about software to know the subtleties, but I'll say yes.
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Workin' the kinks out.
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Imagine when you crest that ocean, that big stormy ocean of God's consciousness.
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Imagine before you go up that stairway and you come up out of that and you're like, oh,
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wow.
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God's going to be sitting there.
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You've got this interdimensional machine gun feeding you ammo and you're like, yeah, I
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can't believe I didn't join you, Quentin.
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It's OK because it's all about to happen.
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Something's about to happen.
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God's waiting for you on the other side.
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But you have to say, get behind me, Satan.
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But you look at all these leftists, we can make fun of them, we can laugh at them, we
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can cry about them.
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But there are people that join the system.
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There are people that are scared.
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There are people that point at the last and say, oh, it was a false system.
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What did it know?
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Where did that come from?
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It was beta testing.
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Shut up.
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The truth is, you are a spirit.
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You are an eternal piece of data, a seed, and you're going to either fall to hell or
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you're going to rise to the dimensions to heaven and you're going to grow and just do
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things you can't imagine.
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I mean, let me just tell you something, I've seen the other side up a few dimensions.
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It's amazing.
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What?
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It's incredible.
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But it's also really stressful.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Hold on.
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Hold the fucking phone.
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What are you talking about?
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Oh, God.
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I've been to the higher dimensions.
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Oh, yeah.
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What's your review?
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Real stressful.
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I've been up there.
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I give it a C plus.
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I've been up there into God's consciousness.
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It is fantastic, but deadlines, it's full of deadlines.
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So many deadlines.
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I like it.
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Even in his cosmology, God is going to ask you to fire an interdimensional machine gun.
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His God is guns.
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But to be fair, if you have a heaven, that would be Alex's heaven.
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If you have any kind of individual input into what heaven is, then why wouldn't there be
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an interdimensional machine gun for Alex's?
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That's a fucked up thought, but it's also like, that makes total sense for you, Alex.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I didn't even miss a beat on that.
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What I'm more disturbed by is Alex pretending that he's seen multiple levels of God consciousness.
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Really stressful.
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Very stressful.
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Really stressful.
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That's such a fun way that I have seen the heavens part for me.
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I have walked past the golden gates.
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I have seen God and his vision showed upon me and I was really fucking stressed by it.
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I was exhausted.
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It is not heaven.
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It is just kind of annoying.
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Like you got your boss over your shoulder.
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It's like an ambivalent evangelist, like an evangelist who wants to tell you about the
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coming of the glory of God and how much of a headache it's going to be.
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It's like, all right.
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It's weird.
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It's almost more reasonable and yet even crazier.
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It has a shade of believability to it because of the human aspect.
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But anyway, he's going to wrap this up.
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He's just got about another minute left.
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So do you want to care about mainline television and mainland culture and all this, or do you
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really want to experience the universe, unlimited potential?
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To be a God is a big deal.
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You know, the yogis teach everybody's a God and the satanists teach her a God.
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You're not a God.
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We're tossing yogis in.
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You're like a couch couch.
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You're not.
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I don't mean that.
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Mainly.
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You're not the big potential.
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What?
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You're not even the baby.
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You're not even the man.
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You're not the man that built the civilization, built the castle, built the world, built the
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ships, built the spaceships.
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You're a couch.
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That's an even more offensive version of what he always yelled about Obama, like you didn't
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build your business.
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Yeah.
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I'm a couch.
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Yeah.
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You're a couch.
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You're just a couch stamp.
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You think because the satanists tell you you're a God because you have the potential of God,
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you're a God.
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God has a stairway built for you.
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But there's going to be incredible pressure going up that stairway.
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Paul Watson from England, he's going to talk about what he wants because it's a free universe.
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I'm going to talk about what I talk about.
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All right.
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I'll see you back tomorrow at 11 a.m. central live.
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I appreciate this amazing crew and I'm even more thankful for you, the viewer and listener,
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because without you, we are nothing.
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I salute you all.
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And I think consciousness, free will and God.
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I'm Alex Jones.
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I think that they played money on the way out because there was a subtle get to a fucking
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plug.
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You've been preaching for nine minutes.
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This ends with a pivot.
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And it didn't.
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It didn't.
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That's crazy.
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I think Alex was too overwhelmed by his desire to tell people he's been to heaven.
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I think he misses Roger.
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Probably.
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I think he really misses Roger.
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I think that there is a definite element of that because it drove him to this.
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Yeah.
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Roger is his dad.
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The way that Schroyer is Alex is the way Alex is Schroyer's dad.
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So Roger has become Alex's dad.
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Well, think about what a great situation he was in in 2015.
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Yeah, for sure.
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In terms of being able to rake in tons of money, fly mostly under the radar with a couple
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flare ups here and then when you want to try and like really go hard for PR.
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Right.
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But it was mostly under his own control.
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He had a lot of agency over the things that were happening to him.
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He was getting away with saying incredibly horrible things.
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People were just like, he's a fucking clown who gives a shit.
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Roger shows up in his life.
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He ends up becoming the biggest Trump booster in the world.
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And a lot of his quality control in terms of his own control slipped away.
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Roger's narrative started becoming Infowars narratives.
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The machine became focused so entirely on the campaign that they lost their way.
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And now after Trump won, it has to still be the campaign.
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Much like Trump has to do all of his rallies while he's president in order to keep the
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ball moving, Alex has to fight the deep state because it's a way to keep it as if there's
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some sort of will they, won't they about things.
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What the election was all about.
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Will he win?
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Won't he win?
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Now that he's won, you can't have that tension anymore without a fake villain.
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So he's lost everything for Roger, at least in terms of his independence.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say, do you think at any point, like even if, let's, let's say he lives to
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75.
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Do you think at any point he's really going to wrestle with how much Roger Stone used
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him as does not going to live 75 and now that's true and no, no, because so much of his brand
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is based on like self-made, his, his, his false image that he's self-made and the masculinity
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that's wrapped in there.
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I don't think that there will ever come a point unless like I could see a situation
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because people who can, who go to like deep recovery, maybe go to AA, get involved in
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the process, that sort of, there are dramatic changes that people can make in their lives
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if they're willing to engage in the process.
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And if he did something like that, not, not necessarily like AA, well maybe he checks
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into rehab.
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Sure.
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You know, that's entirely reasonable for him and it's probably for the best.
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But it doesn't have to be take that form, but some sort of like really intensive therapy.
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Like if you were able to engage in that process, I think you could see a version of Alex Jones
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that could wrestle with that, but absent that, no, he'll always make excuses, always rationalize
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and the path he's on just leads further downward.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It's a, it's a bummer.
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This episode is really weird to me.
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This document of this time, because you have, Alex having a really great time demonizing
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Congolese immigrants.
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He felt really good because it's like, oh, this is territory I kind of know.
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I already did the Ebola thing a couple of years back.
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I know, I know some of those beats.
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This is a victory lap.
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Yeah.
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I can bring back that one man show that I did a couple of years ago.
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RIP Nipsey Hussle.
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So he, you know, he's kind of flying high on that.
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And then he, I think, I think what ended up happening on the 11th is that just everything
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went wrong because it's the Roger thing and it didn't go the way he wanted it to.
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That's one big piece of it.
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Yeah.
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And then he's getting high on his own supply metaphorically because the videos that Caitlin
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Bennett put out and the video that Owen Schroyer put out are not supposed to affect Alex.
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They're not.
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They're supposed to affect the audience that then feeds into Alex's machine.
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When he watched those Caitlin Bennett videos, he was the mark and he's being viscerally
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affected by the propaganda that's supposed to trick everyone else.
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And the same way with Owen's videos with the people out in San Antonio, he got viscerally
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affected by it.
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You can't be the propagandist and under the sway of your own propaganda.
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And that's kind of a lot of the tension that I feel that's coming to the surface with the
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addition of booze on this show.
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He's really falling apart.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty bad.
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Really bad.
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And then also after this episode ends, he goes to the Google headquarters in Austin
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because Steven Crowder was out doing one of his public spectacles where he sets up a table
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and he had, hate speech doesn't exist.
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Change my mind.
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Okay.
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That thing.
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Right.
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And Alex and Owen Schroyer show up and Owen Schroyer has a pretty decent conversation.
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Decent.
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Uh-huh.
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Heavy quotes.
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Let's calm it down.
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Not yelling at each other.
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Right.
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Conversation.
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Sitting at the table, they have a conversation about hate speech and whatever.
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It seemed like a fine exchange between two people that are both dumb.
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Yeah.
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But then when Alex shows up, he's trying to make it all about himself.
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Of course.
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And he's trying to turn it into a Alex Jones spectacle.
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And you can tell that Steven Crowder is not super into it.
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Yeah.
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He's humoring him to an extent, but also trying to keep his space his.
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And there's a real tension of like, all right, I'm doing this because I just got demonetized
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and I'm trying to keep the brand moving.
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Right.
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I don't have time for you, Alex, coming in and making this about yourself.
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I think that it's a sign that even the free speech grifters aren't really interested in
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what Alex is doing, and they view him as too far.
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And if Alex had shown up completely sober and engaged in it as like, I am a part of
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your thing, then that's one thing.
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But Alex didn't.
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He showed up drunk and was like, this is my show now.
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And it's a bridge that will probably never burn because they still want to use each other
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right.
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But it's a bridge that's deteriorating.
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It's not as easy to cross anymore.
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It seems like that's the same situation for when Roger way back when, when he was on regularly,
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when he would plug his legal defense fund immediately after, just like he did on this
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episode today.
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And Alex got pissed, you know, he didn't like somebody else getting the money that he thought
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is his.
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So Crowder doing that, or Alex doing that to Crowder makes perfect sense.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, I mean, Alex is offended when someone tries to piggyback his shit, perfectly willing
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to piggyback other people's stuff.
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And it's weird.
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I mean, if you want to go watch that Crowder video, whatever, go for it.
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But I didn't want to include any of it because it's just kind of nonsensical.
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And then also it's a desperate PR stunt.
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So who really cares?
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There's not a lot of substance.
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Next time they do one of those dumb tables, we should go there and do our own dumb PR
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stunt where we set up the exact same table on the opposite side of the street and put
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our little banner on there that just says fuck off.
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I don't know what point we have.
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I don't know.
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I like how you're thinking, but I don't want to do it.
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Yeah, I understand.
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So I don't know, man.
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It's interesting.
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I assume that by the time this episode comes out, because we're recording this on Thursday
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during the day, you know, we'll come out Friday morning.
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I assume by then Alex will probably have done something else embarrassing.
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Most likely.
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I do feel like every time we're in the present, it's just like, shit's not good.
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Irrelevant.
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It's not good now.
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But you know, stuff is dangerous and it's worth pointing out.
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So you know, there's that.
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It's really a bummer to find out that the heaven my parents have told me about since
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I was a very young child is going to be really stressful, stressful.
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That sucks.
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What's the point of having a fucking afterlife if it's just more of the same shit you're
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dealing with now?
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Totally.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It's it is a little bit of, you know, shades or scales falling from the eyes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's not all it's cracked up to be.
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And God specifically sicked the devil on us.
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It wasn't just the devil was part of the thing and he broke away.
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God is like, let's get these people the devil.
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I don't want to hang out with that God.
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He's the one killing people.
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Right.
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He's the one who told the devil to go get them.
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Yeah.
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This is like their fault.
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Yeah.
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This is a two man game.
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I don't trust any of these people.
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Good cop bad cop.
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Yeah.
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Good deity bad.
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It's no good.
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I don't want to be stuck in that box.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I mean, as I sit here and as I reflect a tiny bit, I agree.
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His spirituality has a lot of holes and it's just a bummer.
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Yeah.
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But more importantly, I think this episode is entirely worth it.
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If only to hear Alex three times, try and guilt Roger Stone about not talking.
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So good.
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So good.
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That is a great display of just a guy who's confident, bringing out is great.
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Yeah.
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Just a guy who knows what is what.
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Yeah.
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That comfortable in his place, has straight up relations with folks.
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Just good.
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Just good.
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Anyway, we'll be back on Monday with another episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledge.com.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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And I'm at go to bed.
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Jordan.
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That's correct.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are.
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Well, you can download our show.
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You go to the iTunes, you go to any other podcast, dual application, all sorts of various
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places.
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Libson, the grocery store.
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We have we have we have them in red boxes now, not only red boxes, those those machines
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that sell lottery tickets.
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Oh, really?
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That was a good get for those.
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So well, you know, as we come to the end of this, I guess, Matt Fury, the guy who made
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Pepe the Frog.
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Yeah.
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He has not killed anybody.
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He seems nice.
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I don't know anything about him other than a few comments that I've seen from him that
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seem OK.
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But I know that if he'd killed somebody, we probably would have heard about.
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Yeah, I would assume.
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But one guy who technically probably has killed somebody is Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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