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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed
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We are Dan. Jordan. Dan? Jordan. When was the last time you were on a boat slash have you ever been on a boat?
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Mmm, great question. Oh for a friend of the show and your friend Matt Riggs's bachelor party
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There was a little bit of a boat
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Excursion into a lake where I was deeply hungover. I was swimming around and I famously declared that I belong in the water
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All across the land people know I was built to swim I love being in that water
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I think it was just the hangover. I was relieved by the cool water. I
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Don't know. I'm not I'm not generally on a boat. I don't go down to Belmont Harbor
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I
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Go out on Lake Michigan. I don't have a yacht. Nope. Nope
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I don't understand anybody who owns a boat in Chicago other than they are the richest people
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That's to me the idea of owning a boat in Chicago is the richest person thing you can do
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Yeah, I've thought about it like not in terms of actually thought about it
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but I imagined what it would be like and the pain the pain in the ass that
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It would be just like you have to dock it during the winter like it just it seems insane
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See the reason that you have to be I think of it that way is because it feels like you have to hire
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Somebody to handle all of the bullshit of a boat guy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it feels that way. I don't know anyway
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We're not boat folks, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me
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That's what this show is kind of about
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So we're back from our wacky Wednesday adventure
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I think we've gotten a number of new folks into the show lately because I did get a number of messages from people
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Expressing like what the fuck is this?
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Not in an angry way right there was some confusion about why we were talking
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Something that wasn't Alex Jones. Well, it's good to know we have new listeners
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Yeah, no, that is very nice. But I apologize for any confusion about that. We are back to Alex Jones today
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We were back in 2013
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And one of the reasons for that is I of course huge news broke in the middle of the week
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Yeah, that is that Muller came out and gave that press conference where he was kind of poking the most non-committal bullshit
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That obviously means please impeach the president. He committed all those crimes. There was a feeling of a cough
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Yeah before a lot of the sentences a little bit of it
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but we cannot
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We can't not say that he didn't do a crime right eyes and so obviously like hey
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This is gonna be great. Alex is gonna have a real unhinged response to this, of course, but on Wednesday
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Owen Schroyer hosted the show Alex
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Every fucking time. Yeah, and so we we have to record this on Thursday to put out on Friday
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And so Alex is back in studio on Thursday
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But there's not enough time to prepare an episode now in order to get it out on time
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So Monday, we'll get back to it. But also I have a really strong prediction that it's not going to be that interesting
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He already has a Muller is a fucking traitor for the Chi comms narrative built-in. So what it what is this going to change?
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Yeah, it could just like make him more
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Desperate seeming or whatever. So isn't isn't their job though less to
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like opine about how awful Mueller is Muller and
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More be like hey the you know, he said a bunch of stuff
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But to the report really basically means this you don't need to read it
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Please if you are a Republican or a conservative or a patriot do not actually read the report
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Yeah, because it will tell you things that maybe you shouldn't know it's diversionary in
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Alex's role. Yeah, but it doesn't matter like it
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That's true. What?
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None of it matters. Well, I mean especially for Alex's coverage of it, right?
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You already know what it's gonna be. It could be either a more ramped up version of it or exactly what he's been saying all along
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Yeah, so I'm not super excited about that, but we will get to that on Monday
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We'll do a present-day episode on Monday when we have more of the information in front of us
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but for now we're back in the past in 2013 to check out what Alex is doing in the
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Aftermath of Sandy Hook and his coverage of it today. We're going over January 29th through
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31st, so we're finishing up January. Very excited to jump into February. Yes, the greatest of months
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It's a good one. It's short
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That's all I got to say about February
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I assume Alex is gonna devote the entire month of February in 2013 to Black History Month
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And he's really gonna go through a lot of the different things
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You might change your tune after we listen to this episode. Like earlier today, I found out that
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I you know, the very first stand-up comedian was was
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Black is a Kate I believe how long you've been doing stand-up 30,000 years good that you know your craft
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I know right
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So before we get into today's show got to give a shout out to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show
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Yes, no, that's even no menacing scone
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Mm-hmm. Finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate it very much. So
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Alexandra you are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. Crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew
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How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business
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I declare info war on you. Thank you so much
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Alexandra thank you very much Alexandra if you all out there listening and you're thinking hey, I'd like to support the show
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We would appreciate it. It'd be very kind. So one thing that's important to remember about this time period right here
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There's January 29th specifically is that we've crossed a line of demarcation
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First of all, we've had Alex on the last episode say very clearly
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I haven't gotten into these actor theories and these people saying that they were actors at Sandy Hook and these people these victims aren't victims
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But now I've seen the CNN footage where Anderson Cooper's nose disappeared his nose disappeared. That's
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100% proof. Well, Alex hasn't committed to that in any meaningful way yet. He has signaled that he is
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supportive of those theories which is building upon him having
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our professor James Tracy on as a guest to be interviewed by Paul Joseph Watson
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And so the trend is very clear
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It's immensely annoying how it's like these little tiny baby steps towards it
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And I yeah, I just want him to like fucking jump in or or don't just quit it
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Yeah, perhaps more importantly than any of his actual coverage
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We are now at the point where Lenny Posner has sent Alex an email telling him to stop
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Gotcha, so we are past the point where he has gotten in contact with Alex and made
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Infowars aware of the fact that their coverage is having a negative impact on their lives
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Yeah
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So everything after this point we can really take away any kind of illusion that he doesn't know the effect
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He's having on right right right and to know that it only gets worse from here kind of I mean that
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That paints a bad picture. Yeah, this moves us further on the spectrum of
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Stupid slash evil towards the evil. Yeah, like once you get that email then you're responsible for everything
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You should do a lot of soul-searching. Yeah, you get an email like that. Yeah, but
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We'll get into today's episode. But first here's an out of context drop. I am the piranha of Liberty
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Nashing my little teeth together in anger against the globalist. Great. Is that good? Yeah, is that a positive?
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No, that's great
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He's the piranha of Liberty which is what I'm going to call him from now on I'm the candiru of freedom
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I don't know what to tell you
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Swimming up the urine stream of evil. I make this promise to our listeners if I ever meet Alex Jones
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I'll be like, holy shit the piranha of Liberty. You nashing your little teeth?
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Uh-oh, we got a new tattoo patreon gold. Oh no
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Liberty piranha. All right. So let's jump in here. We are on the 29th
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I never expect anything to delight me when I go back into the past or even in the present and look at Alex Jones
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But here's something that I found delightful and we'll see if you can figure out why because I love film
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I really want to make a powerful
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cinematic film
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I'm not gonna sell wine until it's time as Orson Welles used to say we will sell no wine until it's time
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Why does this delight me?
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Well, because that does kind of imply that none of his previous documentaries have been powerful cinematic films
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That's that's delightful in some ways, but that's not why okay
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He's quoting Orson Welles, but he's not quoting Orson Welles from a movie or a speech
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He's quoting Orson Welles from the Paul Masson commercial. That can't be real. That can't be real
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We will sell no wine before it's time is the tagline of Paul Masson
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winery
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Which if you guys I would play this audio on the show
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But it's so visual go if you haven't watched it go on YouTube and watch the outtakes of Orson Welles trying to film the Paul Masson
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Commercial. Was it from that commercial? It was the one where he was drunk off of his ass
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As Orson Welles said
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Famously in a drunken commercial it's nuts to me that he's he's passing off a quote of
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Orson Welles that is actually just a
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Wine slogan from a commercial that he probably saw when he was a kid. That's like that's the Orson Welles
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from Animaniacs type of situation
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Yeah, if I were quoting
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Country goodness
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All right, just a handful for the road good that's a that's Maurice LaMarche I believe I believe so
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I don't know why I know voice actors somehow. Well, cuz you're dork. No, I know too
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So in this next clip we get an interesting
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difference between present-day Alex and
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2013 Alex and that is that he doesn't seem to value
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Social media really all that much in 2013
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And in this next clip, it's funny to hear him
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See these sorts of things about Facebook for example and know that in the present day
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He's arguing that one cannot operate without Facebook and it's the public square and it needs to be regulated as a utility
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Yeah, this is the definition of you don't know what you've got until it's gone
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Facebook is a joke people say well then why are you on it?
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We're using the enemy operation the enemy combine the enemy system the enemy data relay
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To to jack into their matrix and try to warn people inside of it. That's what it is folks
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This is a war and if I can seize their weapons systems and use them against him
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I'll do it all day long now. Certainly he still believes those sorts of things
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Yeah about about Facebook like the ideas of it being the enemy system and and all that but he does not
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seem to have any concern about the idea of it being something you are entitled to be on in
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2013 seems like that's changed quite a bit maybe because he got on it in his business model shifted so heavily towards the need for
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sensationalist
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Promotion on social media grabbing attention clickbait. Yeah, and without it things fall apart
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Whereas it wasn't so dependent on that back when Ted Anderson still had a fucking gold license
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Yeah, you can't make clickbait if you can't put it somewhere where people will click
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It's a problem and it that's a problem with the making that a cornerstone of your marketing. Yeah
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Yeah, which we very much have it on account of our complete lack of
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Can't even muster the energy to tweet. I just want to be in the water
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Famously, I just saw the water
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I just sit here and I can open up Twitter and I try and type a promotional tweet and was like
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I'm just thinking about a lake. You are the hungover piranha of lakes. That's true
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mashing my little teeth
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Against retweets
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Reading things where people are talking shit about Dave Rubin. That's all I want to do
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So in this next clip from the 29th, we get a really depressing caller this caller
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Bummed me out. Okay. I feel very bad for him and I feel like Alex is
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Deeply exploiting feel bad for the caller. I do. Okay now I probably wouldn't like them much
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But I also feel very bad for them. So god bless you anything else you want to add?
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Yeah, I completely agree. I just wanted to tell everybody I
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Live on a $900 a month income. I spend as much money as I can on info wars calm last month
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I know every one of your shirts. I bought every one of your hats
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Anything I'm going to join the Paul Revere contest. I'm going to do anything
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I'm considering moving to Austin just to just to be closer to your operation
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He's disabled that part of the wasn't been there. He's living on disability at $900 a month
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Yeah, I just bought tons of Alex's merch
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And Alex that should be a crime. But Alex also doesn't respond to him by being like you should stop
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Yeah, no kidding. You need to take care of yourself. That's you know, you're on a fixed income
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Don't waste it on multiple come and take it shotgun shirts
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Yeah
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well
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if Jim Baker didn't exploit specifically like Jim Baker is not giving back a dime from all of the people who make
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$900 a month and give it to him. So well, of course
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No
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Con man is given is going to say like but Alex is through his Paul Revere
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Contest that we know how it ended with the purge maybe film. He didn't know. Are you sure? I don't believe so
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Oh, but yeah, I mean that just bums me out. It bums me the fuck out. That is a bummer
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Yeah, so we get another caller and he bums me out for a different reason, but it's also a really interesting
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I make $10,000 a month
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That would bump me I don't know of course that no it's because of the content that he brings up but it also
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Offers us a glimpse that I think is really interesting into another huge difference between 2013 Alex and present-day Alex
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One we have didn't give a shit about Facebook back then thinks he's entitled to it now
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Of course here is another one and this has to do with his rhetoric and worldview. I did have another point
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I wanted to ask you if you've ever heard of a man named Waleed Shubat
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Shubat, no, I haven't
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He he wrote a book called God's War on Terror and he's a former
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Muslim terrorist and anyway, I just thought he would be a really good interview for you to have him on
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He basically the conversion that he had to Christianity was amazing
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I mean because he was a full-blown I mean he was you know killing people for Islam
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But you really ought to read that book God's War on Terror. No, I hear you. I will certainly look into it
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Thank you for the call and God bless you, sir. Glad you got on. He doesn't care about Islamophobia
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He doesn't have that as a primary driver of his content and of what he feels
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It's a call like that nowadays would be like and not only that I'm gonna yell for ten minutes. Yeah about this
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It doesn't he's like yeah. Thanks for the call. Maybe I'll read that book. You can't trust him
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They don't ever convert to Christianity because they are held by the well in the garden the coming apocalypse
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Yeah, it's very different than how he would respond today
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Now Waleed Shobat was a guy who was he started making the rounds and right-wing circles in the early mid-2000s
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As the story goes Shobat was a terrorist working for the Palestinian Liberation Organization
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He claims that he was a terrorist and he was responsible for firebombing an Israeli bank called the Bank Luwemme
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Okay
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Can I interject for one second?
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Yeah, when he told me that he was a former terrorist who wrote a book called God's war on terror and he can been converted
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To Christianity. Yeah, my suspicion is he is not real or not telling the truth. Well, let's see
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So he claims he firebombed that church. He claimed he was locked up by the Israeli
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Police and after his release he came to the United States and went to college here in Chicago
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Ultimately becoming a US citizen and converting to Christianity in 1993 that in 2005
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He began his publishing career with a book called why I left jihad the root of terrorism and the return of radical Islam
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He has said that he began to get more active in this line of work around
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9-eleven because he saw the outcome of terrorist activity that he had surrounded himself with in
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2009 he brought in over
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$500,000 on the lecture circuit as well as from the sale of his merch
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interestingly one of his clients was the US Department of Homeland Security who paid him to give speeches where he said things like quote all
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Islamic organizations in America should be the number one enemy all of them
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But here's the problem
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Shobhat story involves specifics and those specifics can be investigated and when they are they turn out not to be true never
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Ever put specifics in there if you're full of shit
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So because these specifics if you do look into them and they're not true that introduces a huge credibility problem
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There's no evidence that Shobhat was ever involved in terrorism
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Bank lemme has gone on the record and said there was no firebombing that could match the description and timeframe of the attack
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Shobhat claims to have carried out the Israeli government has stated clear that they have no record of him ever being arrested or jailed
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His family members have said that his story just doesn't make sense. And of course the story doesn't make sense
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How would that even work a guy fire bombs an Israeli bank gets caught then has no trouble heading to the United States and becoming?
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A citizen especially in that time period yeah, the story stretches its credulity on its face
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And when the clams are more closely examined, they don't seem to reflect reality at all
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Now what I find interesting is that I do believe one part of Shobhat story
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Namely that 9-eleven was a turning point for him
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The DHS was spending money like crazy and as the war on terror
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ramped up in the following years
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There was so much money on the table for a former terrorist who could give a glimpse into the mindset of this country's supposed enemy
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When there are no records to support the backstory you make up you can claim that you know
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You're using a fake name to elude the PLO terrorists who have a bounty on your head when your family members say unequivocally
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That you are not using a fake name
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You can claim that they themselves are terrorist sympathizers who hate you for converting to Christianity
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There's always a way out of the corner as long as you're willing to be a huge asshole
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Which seems to be what well lead Shobhat has done. Yeah, he saw the grift and he went for it
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Mm-hmm. It appears that way. Yeah, you know and he's he's spreading bullshit anti-muslim propaganda
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And taking advantage of it, but you know if there's there's a market for it, I guess
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capitalism
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The Department of Homeland Security. Yeah in the course of his career Shobhat tricked a whole lot of people into thinking
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He was some kind of an expert on terrorism and he made a pretty profit off it in 2008
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He was soliciting donations to the Walid Shobhat Foundation, which he claimed was registered as a charity in Pennsylvania
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Although the Pennsylvania State Attorney's Office has said that there's no such record of registration which of course raises some pretty serious questions
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But the biggest questions need to be directed towards how it was so easy for someone who is so clearly kind of in favor of
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Terrorism to be boosted as an expert in counterterrorism
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For example after the pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando
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He said quote the only ones moaning over 50 gays slaughtered are liberals idiots and gay lovers
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I don't care about gays who are Muslim loving anti-gun liberals stupid people who hate life die stupid people who hate life always die
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After the Charlie Hebdo shooting he applauded the terrorist attack because the magazine had quote insulted the Virgin Mary
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Like this is ridiculous shit
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All right. All right. He's he's a little bit all over the place a little bit
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He's a little bit all over the place thus
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It should be no surprise that he's a big supporter of Trump and that his son Theodore has explicitly called for Trump to establish a quote
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Christian supremacist society saying that in that society that he wants to be created there would be quote no free rein for homosexuals
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There's no liberation for perversity and debasiveness
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And just downright weird mutant psychos walking around with clipped liberal dyke hair and men dressing up as women and all that sick psycho shit stuff
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people who flaunt the Quran in a Christian society would be arrested at times put to death in
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The present day will lead and his son are spouting shit
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That sounds really similar to a lot of the stuff that comes out of Alex's mouth pretty regularly
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But what's interesting to me is that if you listen to that clip of Alex talking to the caller
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Like I said, he's not interested in this dude at all
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No
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He doesn't know who he is
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Even though Walid has been agitating against Islam for years at this point and the caller is bringing up his third book
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Islamophobia is not a primary part of Alex's marketing strategy in 2013
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Which I have to assume is largely because he didn't realize something that will lead new from day one
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And that is that this is a super lucrative business. Oh, yeah, and he just hasn't gotten on board yet
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That's my guess and so it's kind of ironic that he's lying about being a terrorist in the beginning
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Yeah, and then later on he becomes essentially a terrorist
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for
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Or a booster of it. Yeah, or at least an apologist. Yeah, that's that's a that's a we that's a we pretend
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You know, we become what we pretend
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Yeah, the mask that we wear too long becomes our face. Yeah to an extent
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I think I think there's more just like if you don't have a real good through line
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And you're just making shit up eventually the worst parts of yourself will become amplified
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Yeah, I think I think that's something along those lines. So Alex gets another caller and it's a British guy who Alex is
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Certain is doing a fake accent. Yeah, I don't think he is. Okay, I will find out
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I really don't think he is because he does seem to have a pretty good handle on
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British affairs, let's say okay
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And he out. He's just embarrassing Alex all over the place
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okay, because Alex keeps trying to bring up the things he thinks about like let's say the royal family or you know,
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Anything about Britain and every single time this guy's like well, actually Alex. That's not quite true. Yeah
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Yeah, so here is a clip Duncan
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Here is a clip of Alex getting embarrassed by a British guy who he thinks is doing a fake accent
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But is actually pointing out that Alex has no idea about the royal family
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It's just that at the heart
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Of so much of the New World Order we see being pushed
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He is the Transylvanian royalty that you've got perched over there in London. It's not actually Transylvanian
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It's it's actually a German family, but at the same time there is British as anyone else that moves to Britain
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200 years ago
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The point is I think that
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And I like I said the accent a little you know, the German house they hail out of is originally
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Transylvanian
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Actually, it's kind of more mixed than well it is mixed but I mean
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One of their oldest bloodlines is Transylvanian and that's the one Prince Charles says he's most proud of
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He he says he's Transylvanian in news articles and you know, he's moved there and then runs around in the woods
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On the other hand, I've descended from the stewards. So I wouldn't concern myself too much. Ah, you are a royal
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So you like Henry the eighth no, that's the tutors
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Stewards the tutors the Pooters go ahead
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That's embarrassing
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What a child that's pretty embarrassed that child this guy just by knowing what he's talking about embarrassing the shit out of out
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Yeah, now he Alex talks to this guy for a very long time
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probably
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Way longer than he needed to but I think one of the reasons is because it gives Alex an opportunity to go
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Yeah, and like make fun of his accent
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Which I think Alex is enjoying and I think that Alex thinks that he's making good points
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You you think so I think so cuz what I'm hearing if from this my guess is it's a long interview because
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It's it's like a comic trying to get offstage on a big laugh
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Like he wants he's he keeps getting dunked on so he's got it. He's got to get that big like win
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I think I think it's less that more like he thinks well maybe but I would merge our two ideas
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Okay, I think it's a possibility
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He's looking for a big laugh, but he also wants that big laugh to come at the expense of making fun of this guy's accent
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Yeah, of course. So it's
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It's sort of both. Yeah. Yeah, but it reaches a point of
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Intolerability and like I said this call goes on a while and at no point does Alex seem like he wants to hang up on
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him he does he seems like he wants to keep going cuz the guy is expressing an idea about
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He's defending royalty. Uh-huh and being royalists and monarchists and
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Alex is very against that because he hates Kings. Well, of course, but because this guy knows what he's talking about. He's
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He gets Alex to say like well, yeah, you know, I guess you know being into the Royals is kind of okay
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Cuz you know like you can't they're nationalists, but they believe in the royalty as a nationalist thing. It's like holy shit, Alex
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What is it going on? Yeah, he's getting seduced by just a
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Weirdly fake sounding British accent. I don't think it's seduced
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I think he's just his his arguments are so thin that when walked through
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An idea of like King isn't so bad
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He's like, yeah, you know what you're right. So so now there are five ways to learn which is that a British person
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Just tells you yourself. Yeah, okay
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So when he does end up actually ending the conversation it it's jarring because it's very quick
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Alex accuses him of letting his accent slip which didn't happen
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And then if you pay attention to what's being discussed you realize that this is an intolerable thing
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To have Alex his narratives be penetrated on this is too central to what Alex believes and this guy
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If allowed to keep talking will end up pointing out how Alex is wrong about the central point of his beliefs
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But the point is is that and then higher levels 90% will be killed and then higher level
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It's no five percent will live at the highest levels
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They talk about killing everyone and then the last globalist will merge with the mega computer and become God
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I like I'm not saying that's gonna actually happen. But do you think two New World Order Skeksis, you know up in their
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Ivory Tower if they actually succeed in this program
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Merging with cybernetic systems are not going to kill each other. I mean, do you really think that well, actually what I really think
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Most of what you're seeing comes from HG Wells and Bertrand Russell. Yep. That's right
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They all wrote about it had of you three months ago
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So I have no idea who you think covered this or not
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But if you look at the history when I say progressive if I don't mean the modern
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What came in America around the 20s acting 30s? I'm talking about the old 19th century
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Progressives you're getting out of your accent. Listen. I got a job. You're an interesting call, but I promise to get to other people
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That's why it's hard to go to calls. They're all interesting
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Are they oh boy?
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Alex knows that he's out of his depth. Yeah. Oh, yeah
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I'm allowed to keep talking it will reveal that there is a larger political context to everything that he's
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Trying to present to his audience that actually refutes a great deal of it and all Alex is doing is
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Mispurposing fucking science fiction authors and then some people like Bertrand Russell. He's just using
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stuff from their work
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Selectively out of context and manipulatively in order to create this conception of these globalists that he's afraid of
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It's pretty wild
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Well good on that British guy for going from not knowing about him to in three months
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Obviously debunking every stupid thing that Alex kind of accidentally. Yeah. Yeah
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Admire it in some ways
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Although I don't I don't know if I fully support some of the conclusions that that British guy was drawing
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He's had he had some strange ideas. Okay, but
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He was one of the better callers that I've heard on Alex's show
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If only because it becomes so clear how Alex has to protect himself like that your accent slipping gotta go
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Yeah, I didn't hear an accent slip. They're not at all
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I actually played it back a number of times to see if there was any slippage. Yeah, there wasn't
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So in this next clip Alex
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This isn't new or anything. This isn't a new idea the idea that Alex excuses white terrorism
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But I thought that this shorter clip is kind of a perfect encapsulation of how he justifies that
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So I thought it was worth hearing just as it as it is an articulation
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And it's a fact they trained 24-7 to take our guns and put us in re-education
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camps and there are millions of people aren't going to go to a re-education camp and
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So there's gonna be a war and they don't want to have a war where they started don't have the moral authority
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They'll go out and blow stuff up and blame it on us to say we started it
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And so just be aware of that psyop and I'm sorry
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It's come down to this but they're lining up their people everywhere to launch something very very soon
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I'm afraid so it's just a perfect setup
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Yeah
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You know if you have the idea that they want so desperately to take your guns that they're willing to commit
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False-flag terrorist acts to blame on you in order to facilitate getting your guns
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Do you have that in place then anything can be fake and the way you selectively use the accusations of?
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Things being fake becomes crucially important. Yeah
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Because it it seems to imply it's revealing
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Absolutely that last clip is a perfect encapsulation of how you get
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The groundwork laid in order to excuse just about anything
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Yeah, so in this next clip Alex talks about Bill joy his article from Wired magazine why the future doesn't need us
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We've talked about this a hundred times. Yep
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He Alex claims always consistently that Bill joy's article was about a meeting of high-level
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technocratic globalists who were getting together to discuss what to do about humans once they are taken over by machines and
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robots and that is not true at all that is only true of a very short passage in this article where Bill joy is
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Literally quoting the Unabomber
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And not discussing that as a decision being made by high-level
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Technocratic globalists it is from the Unabomber's manifesto. Yeah. Yeah
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It was it and now I mean it was a pretty good manifesto though. I've heard that from people
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I don't want to talk to it
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Never but yeah, so in this next clip the reason that we've talked about this a hundred times Alex brings up
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The one future doesn't need us a ton
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Why why should it be discussed again one reason and one reason only I?
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believe in this clip
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Alex makes it way too clear that he knows that he's misusing that article and he knows that what he's doing is quoting the Unabomber
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but the globalists have said on record in
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In things like Wired magazine with Bill joy that I've talked about probably 300 times
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since
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the April issue
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2000 where he said yeah
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I went to a meeting of a couple hundred top computer company owners and
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Our debate was do we just give you games and fun things to play and make you a bunch of idiots
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but let you keep destroying the resources or do we kill everybody and
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The consensus is we're gonna kill everybody
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So I'm just gonna tell you that what the Unabomber said was right
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This technocracy takes over humans will be obsolete
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That's not in the article at all in the article when he quotes the Unabomber
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He does not say that he's right Unabomber's right. This is crazy
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That is Alex admitting that he knows well aware or or at least he's aware that what he believes to be true about
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This article is just the Unabomber part of it
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So that is fucked up because then that means that he has to believe or he has to be presenting the Unabomber as part of
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The globalist consensus or just someone who is smart enough to see through it
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Yeah, like he was a you know, he cut through the bullshit cuz he was in the MK ultra program. Sure
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Sure. Sure. Sure. I don't know but whatever it is
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It's a very strong indication that Alex didn't read the rest of that article and I don't blame him. It's long
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Yeah, it took me a while to read it. I've read it like two or three times now. It's
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Anyway, it is next clip if you think that that is kind of damning about Alex's beliefs about what the globalists plan to do
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In this we're about to hear Alex say
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Something that leads me to believe that news radios Jimmy James might be a globalist donkey wrestler
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Like a lot of these globalist bosses have a robot in their office
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When they're in a different city or different country and the robot rolls around with a camera and stuff on it
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And it oversees everybody and it's the boss. That's literally a news radio
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Come on let's go to the movies
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What do you mean you're not gonna take me into the bathroom with you
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I mean it makes sense that Alex would have seen that his buddy Joe Rogan was on the show. Yeah
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Yeah, probably so I was like, oh this is that the technocratic elite are gonna do and it was a great episode
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But very fun. It was very good. It was a very funny, but Alex. Yeah, so
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we jump off the 29th now cuz there's not a whole lot going on other than that and
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Man the 30th there's not much going on on this show either Alex has a guest cancel and so he has his second guest
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He had two scheduled. Yeah, one was one of Ron Paul's buddies
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And he cancels. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so we I'm too busy being one of Ron Paul's buddies
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Yeah, sorry, I can't can't go on your show
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So instead of talking to that dude we get the second guest and he ends up staying for like two hours cuz this guy seems
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Like someone who will never fucking leave
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We had him on last week and the hour went by very quickly
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So I wanted to get him on for an hour today so you could question him Jim Garo was talking about a quote retired military living legend
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Saying that the military brass that he knows has told him they're having a litmus test
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Will you fire on US citizens? Well, the military is training for that and that's in the news and
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General Boykin the former head of Special Forces like him. He's been talking about plans for a police state
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He's been talking about our government giving Al Qaeda terrorist weapons. Gee, I wonder what general
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Mr. Garo is talking about but he has more to say today and he said the general not that we know it's Boykin
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Did not want to go public himself but wanted to go through Jim Garo and I looked up Jim Garo
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He runs heavily in the big Christian circles as general Boykin does the same circles, but he will not reveal the source
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I'm smart enough to know who it is. And again people say well, why are you revealing it then?
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You know 99% chance because the NSA and the government already knows I don't live in a delusional world here
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Ladies and gentlemen, and I wasn't sworn to secrecy
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I can just tell who it is and we're making it up. Yeah, so we talked about Jim Garo on a recent episode and we went
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Over how he's just making this shit up about Obama giving soldiers a litmus test for advancement in the form of asking them
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If they'll fire on US citizens, so we went over how his claims
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He claims to be running a gigantic child trafficking ring to get female children out of China
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Which he's most likely making up entirely
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He's a big old piece of shit. This is a big piece of shit
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Since his last appearance on the show his fake leak from his high-level source has gone quite viral and has become a huge talking point
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In the right-wing media and the militia-patriot circles mere days into Obama's second term
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it's being seen by these dum-dums as the best shot they have of getting Obama impeached and
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Bringing in a Biden presidency, I guess which is their big goal, which would be just as bad as now
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Yeah, I don't think we should be talking about it
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Is there a big goal which would be just as bad as now? Yeah, I don't think we learned too much from this episode that
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We didn't know before but I find it slightly interesting that Alex has now completely decided that Garo's secret sources general Boykin
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Despite the fact that literally none of the details that Garo has given him by his source match Boykin
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My cynical brain is fairly convinced that Alex knows that Garo is just making this up
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So he's kind of free to make shit up to you know
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It's not like Garo is gonna call Alex's bluff by revealing his non-existent source
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So Alex has the green light to pretend he's solved the mystery and he gets to make himself look super clever
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Haha, it was actually General MacArthur the whole time
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Yeah, it reminds me a little about how Alex treated QAnon early on when it started
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He's fairly dismissive of the whole thing, but he also said he knew who was behind it
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It's a smart gamble when someone else is running a con
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They can't really do anything about it
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If you decide to piggyback their con without risking blowing up their entire thing
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That's just one element to the this kind of thing that reminds me of QAnon though
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Here you have a guy coming on the show and giving out cryptic
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Unverifiable information that ostensibly comes from a high-level military source
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Who's just trying to get the word out and warn the people about the evils of the left?
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There's less anonymity to this con
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So it's a little easier to collapse when anyone starts looking into Jim Garo or when tons of patriotic ex-military
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Officers don't start coming forward to back up his bullshit, but the framework there is very similar
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So I thought that was kind of interesting
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but
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It it's very it's very strange to me this
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I'm a hundred percent convinced that both of them know that they're both full of shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah 100 100%
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I'm certain of it
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The dynamic of the QAnon thing is just sort of a stray thought that I had that I definitely need to think more about but
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There is there's kernels of like similarity in the skeleton of it. Yeah
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I think there probably are a lot of examples of that in Alex's career
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It's kind of interesting to think about like when Steve Puchenik would come on
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In the lead-up to Alex deciding he loved Trump and tell about the counter counter coup. Yeah against the Clintons
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Yeah, that's very similar. I like a good counter counter counter coup
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Well, cuz where's Steve getting the information from it might as well be Q, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely
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The only difference is that it's Steve Puchenik as opposed to an anonymous message board, right?
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Where the information is being conveyed
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So I think there's something really interesting that I need to think about it a lot more
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But I'm a hundred percent a hundred percent sure that they both know that there are no stakes
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Yeah, neither of them is gonna call the other one out. There's like I'm fucking around
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Hey, I'm gonna fuck around too because then Alex gets to be like, I know it's general Boykin
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He could be like, I'm so fucking smart. I figured this out and then
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Alex gets to take control of the narrative because now he has a narrative about general Boykin
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Which is no longer Jim Caro's narrative Jim gets to keep playing his game over here
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Alex has created an offshoot business for himself over here and that's what he tried to do with Q and on to with Zach
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He's you know, yeah, it's it's the story of long-form improv and how upright citizens Brigade started
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There's something up here. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but there's something up anyway
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well, like we'll listen to a little bit of Jim Caro here in a few but
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Before we do Alex has a bit of breaking news that
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Is disturbing on January 30th 2013? Yes. It's a little bit disturbing and it has nothing to do with anything
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That's happening in the world. Okay, that sounds that sounds more right? Yeah. Yeah, okay
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Al International announces results of Young Jeavity clinical studies performed by Clemson University yahoo finance they took
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cancer cells
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from human cancer in the colon that's just exploding because of all the toxins and chemicals and of course it mutates the cells and
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the the the the
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Young Jeavity
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Beyond tangy tangerine they tested some of the others as well. You can go read the results in a scientific study. Don't say it
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went in and
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did not hurt the healthy cells and
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Killed the unhealthy cancer cells now. Oh, that's pretty messed up. No, you can't do that
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You can't do that. It's not can't you not do that. You don't do that
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I don't know what you can and can't do
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I don't really know where the line of legality is in terms of making claims, but that seems pretty close to it
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I'm gonna go I'm gonna go killing cancer cells with
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A homeopathic bullshit is too far. It seems like thin ice, but I also think Alex is kind of protected
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I think legally is protected because he's just reading a press release about one of his sponsors
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Asserting that their product has a health benefit that the FDA hasn't evaluated and hasn't been proven
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But he's not saying that beyond tangy tangerine is going to cure your cancer
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He's just reading a press release that heavily implies it and that might be legal. I'm not sure yeah
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Whatever the case it ain't ethical
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I if if any doctor even if it was true if a doctor prescribed me tangy
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Tangerines beyond tangy beyond tangy tangerine. I would fucking punch him
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Is it beyond tangy describing the tangerine or is it beyond a tangy tangerine? Ooh, that's a good question
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Yeah, what's modifying what how far away is?
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This is this our past tangy tangerines
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So we just get beyond tangerines get past it
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So whatever the case legally is I'm certain that this is a deeply deeply unethical thing for Alex to be doing and here are the reasons
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Why first young Jody is one of Alex's primary sponsors?
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He has a deep financial interest in over selling their products
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Assuming that a study has been done that seemed to indicate that their products could treat cancer
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He's the last person who should be covering that story as news since it takes a story away from the context of being
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Serious science and analysis of the study and lands it directly in paid advertisement territory
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If you were young Jevity and you were serious about this study, you would never want Alex reporting on it
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You do not want him being the person to convey this message
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Second I think they don't care young Jevity that is
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I because I don't think they're serious about this study the press release that Alex is reading is from al
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International which may sound like a scientific research group, but it's actually just young Jevity's parent company
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Oh in June 2013
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They just decided to change their name to young Jevity International since that's most of what their business is might as well
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This is young Jevity putting out a press release hyping their own products and having their pitch man Alex read it
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Yeah, next and third the way Alex is presenting this it appears that Clemson University did this study and thus it's legit
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But Clemson didn't really do that research. Technically it came out of the Clemson University Institute of nutraceutical research
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But but what that means is kind of an open question
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Nobody even knows what it means. It's a little vague
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Nutraceutical research of the nine results on the first page of a Google search for the Institute of nutraceutical research at Clemson
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University you find a Facebook page for the Institute that has no followers and no posts
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One amateur slideshow presentation about the Institute and seven links to stories about the young Jevity story
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Okay, so there's a very high probability that this is just some straight-up bullshit
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It's a it's a red flag the fact that all of this is it all seems to lead back to this one young Jevity study
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The Institute of nutraceutical research does definitely exist as you can learn if you make it to the third page of Google research
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Results third page. Yeah, where you can find a few of the other studies that they've been involved in
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But the difference between those studies on the young Jevity study is that the other ones they've done have been published and peer-reviewed
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just slightly different in
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2016 Michelle van Etten was announced to be a speaker at the Republican National Convention and as it turns out she was involved with young
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Jevity this led to some people in the media taking notice and asking a few questions
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One of which was about this study that young Jevity has made a big part of their marketing, right?
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And then of course when will Sharon van Etten come out with her next album?
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So the Daily Beast reached out to Clemson spokesperson and Robin Denny to get some sense of what was up with the study
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And here's what they had to say three eggs are cheaper than up. Never mind. Then your balls will be good
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No quote Clemson's Institute of nutraceutical research did some limited preliminary laboratory research for young Jevity several years ago
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No clinical trials were performed and Clemson has in no way endorsed any young Jevity product nor
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Authorized the use of Clemson's name or data in conjunction with any claims of efficacy the Institute no longer exists
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This is a real problem because the website for infowars team Alex's multi-level marketing operation
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We they just reposted al International's press release in full and it literally says that they did quote clinical research studies
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Which they did not so that's probably bad. This is a misrepresentation on its face and is probably illegal
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Yeah
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I'm gonna go with that one's pretty that one feels pretty close that one feels illegal in the post on infowars team
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It claims that the study showed that beyond tangy tangerine quote killed 60% of cancerous colon cells
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65% of cancerous liver and stomach cells and 30% of cancerous breast cells while their other product ultimate classic quote killed
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95% of cancerous colon cells
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65% of cancerous liver cells
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65% of cancerous stomach cells and 30% of cancerous breast cells and they did no trials though
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Well, no clinical trial no clinical data. It's a laboratory trials. Right very important distinction
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Right, right because that brings into the the methodology of the study, which is very questionable
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Well, they put some cancer cells on like one of those shooting targets and then they threw
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Tangerine at it and they realized that it put holes in the yeah, that would be an interesting that sounds good
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so what they did is they put they did sell testing on cells in test tubes and
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And specifically didn't do any tests on human subjects and they did that for a reason
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Tangerine kills people. No, it kills regular
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Plenty of studies have been done on cells and test tubes that find that everything from strawberries grapes
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Rosemary green tea and ginger kill cancer cells
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This is true in test tubes
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But has literally no application towards whether they have any similar effect when taken by a person one blog
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I found described the study
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They put it this way bleach kills cancer cells in a test tube, but it's not going to help your cancer to drink bleach
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This is the sleight of hand of a study like this
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the Institute of
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Nutraceutical research knew before they started the tests what the outcome was likely to be and they knew that they wouldn't get similar results with clinical
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Trials which really makes this smell like research for hire
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I can't prove that but it has some of the hallmarks of you paid for this study in order to get the thing you needed
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Yeah, this is climate research paid for by
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What any number of bullshit? I don't think you can say that for sure, but it feels
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Feels that way but did the Koch brothers pay for this study to dr. Wallach is not in bed with the coach for all
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I can tell there whatever the case about the law is here and whether or not the institute was paid to deliver a meaningless
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Study for young Jevety to lie about it doesn't matter to me what Alex is doing on air regarding this study is deeply unethical
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He's selling false hope to his listeners and this and in this case as opposed to other instances
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The stakes are a bit real like when he sells them pills to give them virility. It's really just a placebo effect
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He's selling them but with beyond tangy tangerine being sold as it might kill your cancer cells. That's a whole different level
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There's an actual underlying condition here, which makes this fucking super bad if this isn't illegal man. I think it should be yeah
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Yeah, yeah preying on preying on the dying is probably pretty bad
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And I know that the source of it is al international and young Jevety
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I am I'm keenly aware of that
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but Alex is disseminating the message and I think that that and he's getting paid to yeah, and I think that that's
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It's on the wrong side of the law now if al international offered us ten million dollars
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There's no way we would do that. That's just too bad. That's just too evil so
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Um, that's um, that is that is messed up man. I am I'm not happy to see that being a piece of Alex's advertising
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So he has Jim Garrow on they're talking about this
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This litmus test for soldiers. There's no real new information about it. All Garrow has to say is that
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The guy he spoke to he talked to him again and the guy said thank you. That's about it. Oh, okay
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Well, that's a good guy then Alex keeps pressing for new details
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He's like is there gonna be a false flag guy say anything about that girls like I don't know
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He just said thanks. I ran out of imagination. I admire him not getting deeper into it
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Yeah, you know like there's there's a part with these cons that people seem to really
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Really like over complicating it but there's a real impulse to
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Gilding the lily. Yeah, and at least he has the good sense to be like, oh everyone's paying attention to this
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Nope, I'm good. I do not want to add layers did everything I need to do
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Hey guys, have you ever heard of a tangled web of lies? Well, guess what?
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You're not getting from this cat right here
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Just a regular old web of lies for me not gonna get tangled up at all
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The goal was to impugn and demonize Obama that has been achieved
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Any further action will just lead people to realize I'm claiming to run a child trafficking ring
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And I don't want I don't want the law enforcement to get involved there
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Like that I did I can't continue because apparently I accidentally claimed I was committing a very large
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international crime big big
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Clarification it wasn't an accident that he revealed that he brags about it. Yeah, because he's not actually doing that. Yeah
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Oh boy, maybe he just didn't realize that what he was describing was a crime on
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He said in that interview
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No one knows like people in China don't know what I'm doing like in the orphanages because it's fucking illegal
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Hmm. He's he's very aware that what he claims to be doing is deeply illegal
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Yeah, but I think he thinks that it's only illegal in China
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Like I think he thinks that this part of the no, he knows that it's illegal here. Oh, yeah
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Then why the hell would he try? Why would it why would he please not doing it?
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I know but it's still a dumb thing to claim sure
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A lot of people in this infowars world claim a lot of stupid shit. Yeah, that's true
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So they're a special shout out to Larry Nichols
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So they're having this interview and there's nothing really new coming from it
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There's nothing that interesting and then towards the end of the shit. They talk forever. Yeah, they have a very long conversation about anything
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No, really
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Just really kind of Alex kind of shooting the shit Alex trying to build up any kind of more information trying to pull more
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Threads out of him and then also keeps talking about Boykin like trying to get trying to get Garo to be like, yeah
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You got it. Yeah
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But he doesn't know so then it towards the end of the episode they start taking calls now
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It's wants to talk to military and police
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And he gets a call from a Marine and Alex asks if he's been told to shoot on civilians. Oh, oh
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Cuz that's what Alex wants. He wants. Yeah, he wants confirmation. Yes. Yeah, and this is not what he needed
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Very interesting now. Now. Have you guys had anything brought up to you about will you fire on American citizens?
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I got a recent survey dropped in my email
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I haven't opened it yet, but a couple of my fellow Marines have and they said there's some sketchy stuff in there about you know
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What what would you do if you know Americans did this did that?
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So, I mean, I haven't necessarily opened it yet, but I'm gonna go home and open it. Yeah open that email man. I
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Mean I assume one of the questions is what would you do if your child's at home?
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I
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That's not a good source right there, I don't I think that's pretty bad
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Hey, have you been told to shoot on America? Yeah, I didn't open the email. It wasn't even it wasn't even managed
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It wasn't even somebody asking you a question. It was an email that you are optionally
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Asked to fill out and you know what what's going on there? He doesn't want to disappoint Alex
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Yeah, because the answer there is no and he doesn't want to be the person who's a marine saying no
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Yeah, he has to give a qualified answer that absolutely the answer is no
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But I haven't read this one email that I heard might have something sketchy, right?
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Right, right. That's just trying to be like I want to help you Alex. I really want there's there's a codependency
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Yeah, it goes on between Alex and his audience. They don't realize it's abusive
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It's deeply abusive. He's using these people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's gaslighting writ large
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Yeah, so we're done with the 30th dog shit episode real boring
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Nothing that really got me got me going
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But we jump in here on the 31st
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Finishing up January January will be in our back rearview mirror. Are we going out with some fireworks here? There's some fireworks
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Oh, that's nice, but they're not that great. They're the kind of fireworks that like your parents will allow you to use
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Oh, okay. So there are colors maybe a Roman candle. They're not full-on blow-your-hand-off fireworks. Gotcha
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But it we start here with Alex talking to Paul Joseph Watson and he's bringing up those hacked
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Documents that the caller called in a couple days ago and told him he had found on 4chan and he was afraid for his life
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Yeah to send to Alex. Yeah, Paul Joseph Watson has gone over these and he's deemed them to be credible
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And now if you listen to this clip Alex has fully whitewashed where he got the emails from
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Stay there. I want to get in when we come back to this report you put out that got picked up all over the world
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Concerning this and now admitted hack of a British a defense contractor
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So it's no longer a caller told me about these things that he found on 4chan
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Pjw put out a report that has gone worldwide all over the world taken the world by storm. We have now long laundered information
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Yeah
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And if you hadn't listened to the episode when that caller called in you wouldn't know that's where Alex got this information
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You might assume that it's some sort of intelligence source. You might assume that Paul Joseph Watson is a great investigative reporter
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It's WikiLeaks, you know, you're wrong. You're wrong about all this stuff. It's just some random fucking dude
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Some dumb dumb who's hanging out on 4chan told Alex about it now here we are
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So in this in this next clip we hear Alex expressing something that I think is very interesting
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Given the present day and that is he's kind of aware that the document document in that leak or that hack
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That talked about imminent false flag in Syria. That one's that was where that's fake
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He seems to know that's fake but where he goes from that wild
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Yesterday when the British defense contractor that you contacted on Monday, you know for comment finally responded
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But to the Russian national news
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Chaying look we did get hacked the thousands of pages of documents scans of passports
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That's why we said it looked like a real hack
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But we pointed out could be that somebody inserted fake stuff into the hack
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They're saying the emails where they're discussing a staged chemical event, which has been discussed by the news everywhere that they were
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contacted
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by
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Qatar to be part of this cutter and that they had said no, we don't want to be part of it
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Now again sounds like something the Russians would do hack it then add BS to it or it could be real
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Huh? Sounds like something the Russians would do Alex. It's kind of interesting that he came to the same conclusion that week
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Have that same sort of idea about present day. Yeah
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Yeah
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It seems like he might have changed his tune on the things that Russia might do ha the idea of somebody hacking something for
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Geopolitical purposes in a semi sophisticated way and disseminating that information through certain channels
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That sounds like something Russia might do
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That doesn't sound familiar to me at all. I can't I can't think of any real-world parallel to that. It's interesting
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Huh interesting stuff. So that's about all we get about the the the hack documents. There's not
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Not a lot of not a lot of analysis other than Alex
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Being aware that there are people who are saying that that document was fake and it is
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But what if it's not what if it's not there we go? Alex is still operating as if it is even though
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He's saying that they say it's fake. Yeah, and actually I mean it hasn't happened yet
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But they fucking sue the Daily Mail for posting that right as we as we discussed
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so Alex gets to complaining about
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Regulation and how it's impossible to do business anymore
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And then he uses probably one of the worst examples he could
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But the point is is that you can't operate Ted Anderson
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Moved out of Minneapolis because of the code enforces harassing him
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I mean, it's a radio network and it's guys on the phone, you know brokers selling gold and silver
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So he moved to st. Paul. They harassed him out of there. I mean every time I talk to Ted
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He's got some state agency in his office. He says it's not just me Minnesota's one of the worst
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He says it's everybody this is in 2013 two years later Ted Anderson would have his gold and silver license
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Revoked by the state of Minnesota. We'll get into that a little bit later
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But it's just funny to have that be like, you know, they just do all these regulations people can't even do business
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Like if you're trying to run a shady gold operation, yeah
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They have questions for you. It's bullshit
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I am just trying to screw people out of money here and they're saying that's bad so many regulations
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so
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Fireworks. Mm-hmm. Remember why we said there was fireworks. There were there were sparklers. Well, I'll call this a sparkler
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Okay, one of our favorite things I think on this show Alex Jones impressions
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Love it whenever someone who we didn't know made an album made an album
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Fantastic great sorts of things raptors raptors are also great
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But one of my personal favorite things beyond esoteric Alex is fake story Alex
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Oh, yeah, I love a fake story. Do we got a do we got hot tubs? Do we got globalists? What do we?
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Bring coming up. We got a hot spring
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But pesticides this story. Yeah, this is a two-part story
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And here is the first part about a park ranger that Alex Jones ran into recently
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Big Bend the National Park
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I'm just ranting. It's just a total take over. Okay
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I mean I'm down there at Big Bend watching illegal aliens go back and forth all day and ride horses on both sides
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Border Patrol does nothing they're ordered to stand down and I watch the park Rangers who most I'd say hi to him and they
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Would literally not talk to me. I shot a video about this one guy. I said hi and he goes
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He was like a big huge guy
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He actually went like Hulk Hogan
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And then I ran into other people who said man we ran into this this guy and I describe they go. Yeah, that's him
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And they go yeah, he you know, we talked to him and he went
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So imagine hey, how you doing?
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And then I'm down there at the hot springs, I'm going back to Watson so Paul Joseph Watson's on hold
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Does the Hulk work as a park ranger now, it's closer to Hulk than Hulk Hogan. Yeah. Yes. Hogan would be like my brother
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Yeah, exactly. The Hulk Hogan would say hello to you
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It's a very interest tell you to take your vitamins and pray and probably use a racial slur probably
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So in this next clip, that's the first little fake story. Mm-hmm, and
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It's just fun
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Great
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What we're there he's saying that to Alex Jones we all get that he notices it's Alex and we're like, okay
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All right. What were these other people thinking? I don't think they're real
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Obviously, I ran into other people. They said that there's a park ranger that went
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That would be that would raise a lot of questions
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So that's one park ranger that he ran into at Big Bend and here is the story about the next one
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This story did not happen
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And then I'm down there at the hot springs. I'm going back to Watson
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Right on the Rio Grande watching the illegals go back and forth. We have video this
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We're finally gonna premiere on the nightly news tonight because we've been so overwhelmed with more hardcore news
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And we got people on horseback riding back and forth broad daylight and the Border Patrol is there with the park Rangers
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I'm sitting there in the natural hot tub by the Rio Grande just absolutely gorgeous
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and I feel some I looking at me and I look up there's about 15 people in this big hot tub and
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There's a there's a park ranger staring right at me like he wants to kill me and I wasn't drinking
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We're gonna go on another hike after this. It sounds like you were drinking
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we just been on a long one like a I don't know four miles of a mountain and back down and I'm sitting there and
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He's looking at me and I was he looking at me
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I look over and there's a Kurz light sitting next to me and a woman in a red bikini sitting right next to me
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And he's looking at me like it's mine
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And I just knew what he's looking at. I went
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You know the universal thing on my hands like that's not mine
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Said to the guys that we gotta get out of here. They're about to raid all these people and they said oh, no
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They're not it was like a bunch of UT lawyer alumni like 40 year old guys out there
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Now with their girlfriends and and they're throwing a football back and forth
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I haven't it seems like an extraneous detail and there's a little bitty sound when you drive into that area saying
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Alcohol is not
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Not permitted here a little bitty sound on the entrance the run us
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We got to gather like oh you're being paranoid Rob do and my dad and others who were with us you're being paranoid
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I said no get the stuff. I'm getting out of here. I go they now arrest people who haven't even been drinking
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I'm gonna know to get out of here. They want to stay 15 more minutes
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Well, I don't even get video of this because I had a gut feeling we were arrested
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So we're pulling out all sudden Border Patrol shoots in for the parking lot at the hot springs there
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This is how crazy this country is I'm thinking oh my gosh, they can do something about all the illegals
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right there coming them back and forth across the border this romantic setting and
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They try to put a body armor on and then to
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To two more park rangers
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But the cop type pull up come and get knocked out of Iran
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And I walk over through a water bottle razor trash the recycler now. Go ahead. How's it going there?
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What's going on?
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And I'm okay
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And then I hear him talking the guard. I got my tickets ready. You're gonna back me up
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They're like yeah, we're ready to back you up, and they proceeded and again. I was on my vacation
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I'm usually I would have done something
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Let's get out of here. There's like a GoPro out
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I mean I brought a camera I just can't handle it. We got some of it
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I just can't handle it anymore man. You can't go anywhere and by the way there were illegals just crossing
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I talked to locals they said at night
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Hundreds come across there and get picked up by localities the border patrols obviously all paid off that's come out on record
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The citizens are the target nope I don't believe that story at all
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I believe that probably Alex was drinking in a hot tub
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Hot spring and then saw a cop and was like oh shit go to get out of here cheese it
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It's the heat yep. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, that's about it
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Yeah, so a Big Bend National Park is an amazing natural wonder. It's unlike. It's a very romantic setting
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I've been told yeah for him and Rob do and his dad to go to
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It's unlike anything else in the country and I can totally understand why Alex loves it so much it makes it a vacation destination
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There really is so much to appreciate there like you have
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Historical value as a land in the park once served as a home for members of the Comanche and Mescaleros
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tribes and artifacts at that time could still be found around the park the park is home to a bunch of really cool animals like
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Roadrunners and jackrabbits as well as all manner of cactus and wildflowers all protected by the status that it enjoys as a national park
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There are gorgeous rock formations and waterfalls canyons and picturesque views to enjoy a sunset
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It's a one-of-a-kind thing boasting three complete ecosystems in the form of a river mountain and desert each separate from one another
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all in one national park
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I sense a hammer drop
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Thanks to the federal government that land has remained relatively protected for hundreds of thousands of people a year to visit and enjoy and appreciate
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Boy, I'm starting to think that maybe the Trump administration has here's the thing
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Yeah
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Big Ben Big Bend is named after the Big Bend in the Rio Grande River and the park is situated right at said bend
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You may be aware that the Rio Grande is the technical marker of the boundary between the United States and Mexico
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So on one side of the river
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It's the United States and on the other it's not
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Because of the natural beauty and importance of the area to the ecosystem the land on the Mexican side of the border is also a
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National park the Nacional Canon de Santa Elena
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Obviously this makes the area a bit complicated from a political perspective
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My feeling is that the only real way to crack down on immigration there would be to militarize the national park
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Which would require a ton of development of the land and at that point, what are we even really doing?
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It seems pointless. What are we even really doing?
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Period anyway, I only bring all this up because you could really tell that Alex loves Big Bend National Park
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He talks about it all the time
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He has tons of stories of being in those hot springs and how much he enjoys going hiking in the canyon with his kids
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That's why it should break his heart that in
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2017 when Trump was trying to get his border wall made Big Bend was seen to as many as the place he could easily build
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The reasoning was that it was a stretch of land along the border that's already owned by the federal government
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So building a wall there wouldn't require using eminent domain to seize private land
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Which would inevitably lead to drawn-out court cases in order to get any of this wall built
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This would be a cheap victory to put up the planter wall there
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That was what tons of people were saying what B was being discussed
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Yeah, it definitely wouldn't be a pyrrhic victory for the entire United States
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fucking beautiful
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Existence by building a eyesore of a wall and putting goddamn barbed wire on it
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The proposed border wall would by definition have to run through Big Bend National Park and according to every expert that would mean a complete
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destruction of the delicate ecosystems protected there
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One easy example of this is the Mexican black bear whose population had been dwindling in the 1950s
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but because of the protected land of the park was able to fight off extinction and repopulate
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A border wall would completely disrupt the Bears migratory patterns and could lead to them facing renewed extinction concerns
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And that's just one of hundreds and hundreds of species that would be rocked by a disruption to the park
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Which building a huge wall in the middle of it would absolutely achieve
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Marcos Paredes, a retired Ranger, said quote many many people who put their whole careers
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working out here
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Preserving and protecting this area in one fell swoop. We stand to undo all of that with this border wall
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it's hard to tell how much of the calls to build a wall are just meant to rile up nativist paranoia and
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Fan the flames of xenophobia in an attempt to keep Trump's base engaged
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But let's leave that aside for now Alex Jones fucking loves Big Bend National Park
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And yet he supports Trump building a wall something that would probably destroy the very hot springs
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He loves to bathe in. He's a stupid racist monster
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Who's willing to destroy something he loves to satisfy his desire to hurt immigrants and refugees?
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Or that desire has blinded him to the fact that following through with the plans he supports would destroy something he loves
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I think this is a pretty good microcosm of Alex Jones's life as a whole
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He used to love his radio show
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But his blind hatred of the government has led him to slander murder victims and lawsuits about that have become the proverbial border wall
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That's completely disrupted the ecosystem of his show from an external perspective
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There's very little in his public life that doesn't appear to have been completely
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Destroyed as a result of him pursuing his petty hatreds far past the point where any same person would see destructive consequences coming
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So to put this more succinctly
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Alex Jones sucks and is a total idiot and conversely national parks rule and we need to do everything we can to protect them
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Yes, I agree. It was a little bit more poetic the first time you you put it
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The summation was a was a little less of a fuck you was was more crass
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I would say also a small point illegal border crossings in the Big Bend area are absolutely not a major concern
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For one they're talking about building a 30-foot wall
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When a lot of the Rio Grande runs, but in between
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1,500 foot canyon walls on either side
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yeah, a 2003 study by the Department of Justice explicitly says that that says this about people who cross the border in
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Brewster County the county where Big Bend Park is located quote
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Undocumented persons crossing through Big Bend National Park often die from lack of water or exposure to the elements
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According to the county sheriff often their bodies are not found until the remains have skeletonized in terms of any crime
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That's described in that report about immigration patterns. One of the main things in in
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Brewster County is quote rural burglaries
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That's a crime that they have to be concerned about there a county official had this to say about that quote
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I've had people break into my house get something to eat when I'm not home wash the dishes and leave them by the sink
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With a few pesos. Well, that's nice. How cool is that is a really nice thing for somebody to campfire rules
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Campfire rules leave it better than when you found and he doesn't seem to care about that at all
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The idea of people breaking in taking food leaving a couple coins. It did seem like he was fine with it, by the way
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That's not in the 1920s. That was in 2003
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That were that report. I I think people are generally good. I do too
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And another official had this to say in the report that she's described so she keeps her bunkhouse stocked with food and quote
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If people come needing food, I've told my foreman to give it to them
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So there is a real strong sense that the people in this county
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Don't see immigration coming through as a big concern
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There isn't a ton of it a lot of the people who come through end up dying because of the desert
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yeah, it's there they have to cross through and
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They are more interested in helping people not die than they are with whatever Alex's concerns are
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Well, they are criminalizing helping people not die at the border. Well now there are yeah, there are
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What how many people have been arrested and charged with fucking two one-year sentences only 1% of their law?
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Enforcement budget in Brewster County had to do with undocumented immigrants
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So you're saying that they aren't using Brewster's millions
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No
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The county had to pay four times as much for autopsies and burials of bare
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Bodies of undocumented immigrants that they found in the county then they did for law enforcement purposes
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So I think there's a load of bullshit. Yeah that Alex is spitting naturally
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Also, this is gonna drift into a bit of trivia. But did you know that the name of the adjacent County to Brewster County?
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Do you know what it is? Padgett? It's Jeff Davis County named after the fucking president of the Confederacy
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That's one of four you can do that. Yeah, apparently that's not good
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And guess what?
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That's one of four counties in the country that are named after Jefferson Davis all of them in the deep south in Georgia, Texas
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Mississippi and Jefferson Davis Parish in Louisiana
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Kansas had a county named after him, but even fucking Kansas realized that was fucked up and changed its name back in
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1869
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23 counties in Texas or approximately 10% of the counties in the entire state are named for Confederate
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Yep, god damn it including Brewster County named after Henry Percy Brewster who was a colonel in the Confederate Army
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Jesus not so easy to find counties named after abolitionists
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Georgia likes to claim that Douglas County was named after Frederick Douglass and that's technically true. It was it was named after him in
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1870 when the county was created
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But pretty soon after that Confederate Democrats regained power in the government and changed the name of the county
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It's still called Douglas
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But now it's spelled with one less s in honor of Stephen Douglas an Illinois
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Politician who ran against Lincoln for president and supported slavery as being protected by states rights
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Douglas literally believed that the Declaration of Independence only applied to white people saying quote
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This government was made by our fathers on the white basis made by white men for the benefit of white men and their
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Posterity forever. All right, so that's that's just a little bit of like hey pull back the curtain a tiny bit
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What do you see this? Oh, that's
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You can't that's that's not cool
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That's not cool changing the name from Frederick just removing an s and then being like guess what instead of Frederick Douglass
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We're gonna go with the most. Hey, let's call it Strom Thurmond County for Christ's sake
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It is pretty wild the idea that they were that petty
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They're like, we'll keep the name but yeah spell it differently. So we know what a bunch of dicks
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Yeah, so anyway that started out with Alex telling a fake story about going to Big Bend
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And having you know this run-in with imaginary police
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And then we realized that he supports a politician who would see that park destroyed
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of course and
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In this next clip Alex pretends to cry about his time at Big Bend National Park because of the park later
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I ran into a woman at the lodge that night. He said there were a bunch of tickets being given out
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One guy was being put in handcuffs. I just can't handle it anymore, man
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I can't even go down and just be at a national park. I am the prey. I am the food
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I am the food and I know I said we're food. Let's get out of here
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I mean, I can't handle it anymore. I'm sorry Watson. I've had you on hold finish up with Syria
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Okay, you forget you forget that Paul's been on hold this whole time
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Finish up with Syria because he's still talking about those fake documents, right?
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Park Rangers are like, well anyways finish up on Assad burning and murdering thousands upon thousands of his his own people
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It's interesting that Alex is like I knew we were food. Let's get out of here
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What you're describing when you're talking about being food is
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Getting a ticket for drinking somewhere that drinking isn't allowed
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Yeah, that's an open container violation that you're on federal like that's federal property
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It's the it's a national park food if they say there's no drinking there. That's the rules
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Like do you do you think you can drink at the courthouse just hang out like with a do the 40 at the courthouse?
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It's not gonna fly. No, I did meet a guy who did some coke in a courthouse one time
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And that's cuz he well and that's during his trial for cocaine possession, but I bet it wasn't like he didn't make a show
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Oh, they would have given him at least a ticket. Yeah
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It being food implies something worse than a warning or maybe a small citation
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I mean
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I bet I bet any of those people who were if you were drinking a Coors at the hot spring and you're not allowed to I'm
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Sure, someone would come over like a pour that out. Yeah
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It seemed like it would be like the first time that a park ranger saw that they'd just be like hey
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Come on, quit it cut cut it out and throw it away if you the really don't glitter you piece of shit
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Yeah, more or less so or he also would have gone
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I have no sympathy for Alex pretending he's food and
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overhyping his sort of victimhood agreement
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Uh mentality as it relates to him going to a national park that I would love to be in right now
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Yeah, that would be great. Hello. You don't like the outdoors. I don't like the outdoors. I do like national parks
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Oh, I just like the gift shops of them. No, no, fuck you. What do you like the indoors?
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Why would you want to be outdoors? Of course, but I mean it's a park man
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I don't know what it is about parks that gets me. No, I know I get it
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I you're looking at me like I'm an insane person. No, I guess you're contradicting yourself. What about going to national park?
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I I don't know. I don't like camping. I do like going to a national park though for this is a really
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Yes
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It's nice. I don't want to go camping anywhere. You're nuts, but I want to take a nice little walk. All right, whatever
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So in this next clip Alex has a guest and it's Larry Pratt from gun owners for America, right?
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Who is a mess?
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In this next clip though, he makes clear that so Alex has been bragging a ton about his appearance on Piers Morgan
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But also Larry Pratt has been on Piers Morgan and they got into a little bit of a fight that got way less media attention
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But it apparently has been boosting the membership roles and applications for gun owners for America
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And in this clip Larry Pratt, thanks Piers Morgan
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And then Piers Morgan bless his pretty heart
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That did a little bit at his fair share to
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Increase our membership and we're very grateful to Piers Morgan
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I think I'm not quite grateful enough to form a fan club, but I do have to acknowledge that
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Even though he didn't intend it it has I think frankly not only did he help our membership and the NRA's membership
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But I think he provided what we may look back and say that was a pivotal moment when he started
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Uh lecturing yours truly about how the United States ought to operate with that bloody
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Supercilious British accent of his that just kind of fills most Americans right up to the gag point
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so this
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Highlights a very important thing that people need to realize that he can correctly use the word supercilious and confuse Alex
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Yeah, that's not as important. I think we could have taken that as read
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Oh, although it is interesting to hear Larry. Larry Pratt's a reasonably smart guy. He can he can form some sentences
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Yeah, other than Alex. Anyway, the thing that's important is that these people
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I'm going to go ahead and call Larry Pratt a fascist
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Yeah for a specific reason that we'll get to in a moment
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But when you have people like this who have nefarious intent and you allow them access to your platforms
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If you don't be very careful with it you help them
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Larry Pratt is expressing very clearly to Alex. We used Piers Morgan as a useful idiot
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He didn't understand the game. We were playing. Yeah, we played the game
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You know, there's a fight. He's stupid we won
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Yeah
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And that is what happens when you don't push back now the reason that I'm calling him a fascist is because he was at the Rocky
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Mountain rendezvous
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That had the KKK and neo-nazis
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All those folks back in the day that we talked about not too long ago. Like Larry Pratt is an OG so he for whatever
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Legitimate Second Amendment defense arguments that he has there's something behind that that is far darker. Mm-hmm and
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Even if he even if he doesn't express outright white supremacy and neo-nazism
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He's very very very adjacent very adjacent
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Yeah, so much so that you could say he was rubbing elbows
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That is such a
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Recurring theme in America. Is that the left and Piers Morgan isn't even a fuck Piers Morgan apparently
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He's very important in the the history of the fucking gun movement
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Change the whole game. Yeah, we're gonna look back at it as a pivotal moment
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I think they might I think I think so, too
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Which is what makes it so much more infuriating that Piers Morgan has had such an outsized effect on America strange
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but what's a common recurring theme is that
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They're playing a different game
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Yeah, and nobody would you think you're playing one game and they're not playing that game
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I don't think we were even really all that aware of that no spending this much time looking at deconstructing
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The Alex and his associates and then some of these offshoot folks. I really yeah
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I don't I don't think that we would be aware of that if it wasn't for deep immersion right in this and yeah
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I think that a lot of people are
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Falling for it's it's so much easier with social media. They can run these games so much easier
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Capitalizing the quick attention span aspect of social media, but yet 100% they are playing a different game. Mm-hmm
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Well, I mean and that's just even more obvious when you in the context of McConnell's
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Supreme Court shit that people calling him hypocrisy hypocritical is insane to me
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He's always been it this is a consistent thing. Yeah, he was full of shit then he's full of shit now
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That he's playing the game better than you. Well, I because you think you're playing a different game
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Yeah, and accusations of hypocrisy play into his other game. Yeah, like it's it's a it's
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It's a charge that won't get you where you need to go. Yeah, because anybody who you need to convince
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That McConnell isn't aboveboard
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Isn't going to be convinced by accusations of hypocrisy because they see the hypocrisy as being in effect
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Their benefit, yeah, of course and so you can't that's the game
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Yeah, and people who are playing that other game understand what accusations are
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totally
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Fine. Yeah, they're impotent to hurt them. Not even just not an impotent but almost a rallying cry as well
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Like it'll circle the wagons. How dare you criticize or you can wink at it? Yeah
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Okay. Yeah, of course, but I'm your hypocrite
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I mean, that's why he got a huge laugh whenever he said it everybody was like hahaha
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Of course you would because everybody knew of course he would
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if if if somebody said to me when McConnell was pulling that bullshit with Garland that
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It was just like well, you know what?
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At least he'll be ideologically consistent and if a Supreme Court seat opens up in an election year
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I'm sure he'll do the same thing. I would have wanted to punch them so hard because it was obvious. It was bullshit
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Yeah, totally
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So in this next clip we get to finally something about Sandy Hook here on January 31st
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There hasn't been much talk about it which further reinforces
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My sort of feeling that Alex on a visceral level doesn't care that much right in the same way that when that Waleed Shubat
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caller called in Alex didn't really resonate it didn't he didn't like I don't really care about
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Yeah, I think on a just an emotional level. He doesn't really care about Sandy Hook stuff
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He's interested in the opportunism of the conspiracy theory community that's growing around it
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Mm-hmm, but he doesn't he doesn't really care that much. Yeah, it's just a prop
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Yeah, so he doesn't talk about it a lot
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But he has this bit of news that he's come into
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Sandy Hook chorus to sing at the Super Bowl and that's a way to take the 70 million viewers
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The number one show in North America and to shove a bunch of anti Second Amendment garbage down our throats and re-envoke all this
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re-envoke all this. Hey, how about we have the choir from Mexico of schools where the drug cartels or government comes in and kills
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You know a hundred people they've almost had 60,000 killed more than Vietnam the last six years
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Why don't we have that or or or you know the kids killed by fast and furious guns the president ordered ship down there?
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Why don't we have the family of the dead Border Patrol agents killed by fast and furious guns of the police officers?
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How about they go and sing at this event? I?
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Mean they are just shoving this garbage down our throat
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Absolutely shoving it wholesale down our throat my response that is okay
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Let's get those choirs. Yeah
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Yeah, I don't is there it was that bad. I don't know. It's very it's strange
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It's just a way of trying to like it's what about ism. Yes, and like yeah
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Oh, I you're gonna celebrate these survivors of the school shooting well
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Why don't you celebrate?
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Every yeah one from all time in other countries and everywhere around the world if you do one example of this behavior
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you must do all of it and
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Maybe that would work
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Maybe when we saw the real fucking consequence of this bullshit, that's everybody might actually fucking get it
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It's sort of a cloured and pith and approach. Yeah, yeah publicizing the victims of gun violence
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And I think Alex would have a new complaint if you did that which is like why are there so many?
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Somehow still not to address the central issue
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Now the thing that I find very interesting about this is that this will become a large conspiracy now
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I don't know what Alex does with it
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but one of the things that like James Tracy was putting out was this idea that
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Some of the children that were said to have died in the shooting were actually singing at the Super Bowl that becomes
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large conspiracy that goes around the internet right so the idea that Alex is mad about the Sandy Hook choir singing at the Super
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Bowl is
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Interesting to me because that doesn't seem to be present in what he's saying here
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But we're still a little ways off from the Super Bowl from the actual
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God, that's such a dumb conspiracy theory
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Yeah, that is that is a prescribe that is ascribing your level of stupidity to your enemies and it is
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Just so unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm interested to see how this morphs like does Alex pick up on any of that
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Yeah, he's clearly mad about the choir being at the Super Bowl
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He's got to attack it somehow and it's kind of tough
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To find an angle on it other than what he's already said just get those kids from the schools in Mexico
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Which I don't think that's a potent attack because I think most people would be like you bet. Let's let's go to school
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Yeah, I think he's I think he's gonna go off
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They they did a really terrible arrangement of Ave Maria. So I think that's how he's gonna criticize them
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I mean if he wants to go for that then I play him Larry Nichols album
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Larry Nichols isn't playing at the Super Bowl yet. That's right next year. Yeah, he survives. We'll get him. I
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Think it's also super weird that Larry Nichols hasn't shown up at all in this 2012 2013 time
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That's true. Chanuk hasn't shown up at all. I really expected him to show up by this point
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Yeah
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Alex has been saying
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Psyop a lot more in the last like three or four days that I've been listening to so you think the Chanuk might be
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Around the corner. I don't think that that means anything but it is a word that's associated with Steve. I don't know
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It's really weird. You'd expect a lot more of these like regular people to to have been because this is now a
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Whole month and a week a month and a half almost that I've listened to straight. Yeah of 2012 2013 and
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Nothing not really just gun dudes man. It's just Larry Pratt
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Stuart Rhodes from the Oath Keepers and
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A bunch of scam people. Yeah, and then Jim Garrow certainly making the rounds
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Yeah, a bunch of bunch of bullshit made up bullshit. Yeah, there's not a ton. Hmm, but we we get it
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We do get a guest here. That's very familiar to us. Alex is screaming about financial collapse
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And then the most predictable thing ever happens. There it is. They've got articles about the economy
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contracted faster than they thought
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massive payroll tax
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Trackings and they said poor people we're gonna cut your taxes. They raise them and then there's an investment tax and all these new ones
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Gold trades near one week high on US economy fed stimulus
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US stocks fall as investors weigh earnings economy
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US unemployment
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Up, you know all of this report IRS hiring new employees. Well, somebody's hiring. Of course
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All the elites are basically left alone. I wanted to bring up Ted Anderson. Yeah, it's gonna be a gold pitch, but that's not why
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Okay
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Alright
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He's done that a lot on this show where he's like
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Let me I was at the I was at the park. I wasn't drinking right?
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You didn't need to you know that someone's gonna think you're drinking right? That's what you're doing cuz you were drinking. Yeah
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So yeah, I know it's you know, you know, that's a gold pitch. That's not what we're doing
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Well, why didn't you why did you say that you could have just not said that
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Yeah, and also it's not Bob Chapman because I have some bad news Bob Chapman died in June 2012. So he's already dead
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So it's down to Grand Prix bad news, oh there is so he has to shortcut it now
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He doesn't have Bob Chapman to help himself heads gold. He has to just straight shoot it
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I haven't seen Ted really come up in this 2012 period either. So this is interesting to me. I find I find that pretty it's
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Not that interesting
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It's only interesting in as much as he showed up a lot in 2009, yeah, so now four years later, it's it's
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but I think that's also probably partially because
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He's taken on like beyond tangy tangerine and young Jevity. He's he's taken on a few other sponsors
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So maybe Ted doesn't have as much central importance. Yeah anymore
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Yeah, and he also of course has Frank Bates and his weird device, right? Right money. Oh boy
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so they
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You know, it's a gold pitch. Yeah, but that's not what he's really here for
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No
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But it turns out what he is there to do is read
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Limerick's and sell soap and he's all out of soap that no that's Marty Schachter who might also be dead by
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No, what he's there to do is he's there to shit on other gold companies that were running ads on Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh
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He's having Alex do it that's for sure so here's that
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But I called Ted this morning. I said I heard a radio ad last night
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I'm one of the biggest talk show hosts in this country and I'm I'm gonna say names
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You know who it is. They've been in trouble for this before and I said, what were they really selling stuff for?
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We're gonna skip this network break as I'm so far behind I can do this plus it's important to get this out
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So station shouldn't be going over this in about three months as a network break
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but
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Ted
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I called ticket because I know about the gold and silver business pretty good. I've been in it for 17 years and Ted started
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The network 15 years ago. So I've been working with him 17 years about 16. He was a sponsor right away
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I was a local radio
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Was I went out and shopped and found the real folks and did some research and I've been with Ted ever since what?
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and I
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Heard this ad for a coin and I knew the coin was
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150 percent higher than it should be it's great for a company to have 5% maybe on something was hard to get a 10%
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Markup, that's great. You got to be able to make money to keep your lights on
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You know hold the stuff sell it do all that on on average Ted's got about a 5% markup
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He's got deals where he loses money where you can get two silver dollars at cost two homes and a book for free
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loses money
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But I'm not differentiating the competition
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That's the oldest trick in the book saying, you know, their hamburgers are clearly we're yeah
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No, that's exactly what you're daddy's check this out for yourself. A lot of the big national talk show host
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One of them lives right here in Texas moved down here. It's gonna leave it at that
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Got in trouble for stuff with a hundred percent markup. This is 150. I was hearing and I just it just blows me away
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that Ted Anderson on average is about a 5% markup and
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And and and that Ted is it's got it's doing such a you know
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A good job at what he's doing and I just think people need to know they do need to know two years later
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Yeah, he did such a good job
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Yeah
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We mentioned it earlier and we talked about it on the show before but it's worth reminding anyone who hasn't listened to our back catalog
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That Ted Anderson the guy who syndicates Alex's show and is one of his biggest sponsors through by his resources
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He's no longer legally allowed to sell precious metals
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About two years after this episode came out Ted got in trouble with the state of Minnesota and they revoked his license because he quote
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Misappropriated customers money and misrepresented terms of sale to them. The state found that Midas resources quote routinely
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failed without prior agreement to deliver bullion coins to its customers within 30 days of payment and otherwise
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Misrepresented to customers the terms of sale
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He was kicked out of the precious metals business and had to pay pay back hundreds of thousands of dollars to customers in
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Restitution Ted Anderson was running a shady as shit gold company
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So it makes it a little hard to swallow
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That Alex is just having him on here to sincerely complain about some other gold company running ads on rush or Glenn Beck show
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With markups that offended him. He's straight bullshit. He is doing this. I don't know why he's doing I mean, it's just it's just
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Shading the competition, you know, yeah, but it why do they do anything that they do?
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It's it's one of these things that like if you were doing this and you're working with this like scammy fucking gold operation
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Don't call other gold operations scammy. That's gonna draw attention to how scammy you are it
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I know that apparently in practice. It doesn't work that way. Hmm
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No, it does not it turns out that that is the exact opposite of the way the world works
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Yeah, if you're running a scam accuse everyone of doing the exact same thing you're doing
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Yeah, and it works. Yeah, that's weird. That's what Trump literally did to get elected president
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It's so weird that the world works that way because it's it should work the opposite. It does seem like that. Yeah
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Yeah, oh, they're they're corrupt. They're taking money. They're doing all this stuff. They're
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Hillary's evil and yet he's
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And then he just did all of that. Yeah all of it
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But what it with this appearance is and it is a gold sale as Alex has pointed out
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Yeah, but what it's really about is condemning these other companies for being shady
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As a way of making sure that people trust Ted
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Making them look bad is in service of building up Ted's credibility as you can hear in this next clip. I
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Got Ted on about financial news, but I'm just an honest person, you know with a little bitch in there as a sponsor
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I just start plugging what I believe in minus resources is the place and when it comes to bullion
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When it comes to bullion
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With people that actually sell it to you'll see some deals occasionally as I've looked around before
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I've seen deals where they claim something you call up over out of that we have this you don't get dealt with minus resources
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You don't get anything else minus resources
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Hits the escape pod, you know the injection seat on brokers in about 10 seconds when he discovers
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You know anything and it could because again the whole gold silver industry is people don't have the facts is a snake pit
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That's why I'm telling you ladies and gentlemen Midas resources
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So, I mean he's even saying that like this is a business that's full of fucking shady people, but yeah my guy
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Yeah, my guy five percent markup. He is losing money most of the time loss leaders
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He just wants to get you the best deal. That's fucking used car salesmanship, but for gold Oh 100%
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This is if it's gross. Yeah this I mean to see within a couple days span this kind of
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Shilling for Ted Anderson's gold and the young Jevity can cure cancer study
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You just got like you got a gross gross business model here. Yeah. Yeah. I think capitalism is great
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He doesn't give a shit. Nope. So we have one more clip here and
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In terms of this clip
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It's wise to remember that after Alex had James Tracy the guy who thinks that people at Sandy Hook were actors
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after he had him on the show and
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Saw that there was a video that got 10 million views on YouTube about those Sandy Hook conspiracies
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He started to change the way he covered things
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Particularly school shootings. We saw the Lone Star College shooting where he was saying that CNN was covering things up and
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Trying to find a false flag angle on it
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And then he realized that the school was pretty much all black people being interviewed and he decided it was gang related, right?
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Now on the 31st right at the end of the show. There's another school shooting and here is how Alex covers it
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Absolutely. We've got some breaking news Ted just briefly here school officials confirm shooting at Atlanta middle school
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Sounds like a gang related deal
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14 year old shot and it goes on to say the parents even though the shootings been over a while are not
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Allowing to pick up their children. So the government's setting that precedent where you can't get your kids
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And I teach them to get the fetal position to hopefully get a higher death count so they can take our guns
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That's Fox News Fox News calm reporting that and obviously drugs report calm will have it all have the latest at info Wars calm and prison
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Planet TV Ted. What about the two silver dollars for $72 yikes Wow
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No more coverage that shooting is
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That's disgraceful
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So many many many many levels that is a fucking
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Disgrace. Yeah, that's pretty bad
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so the story that Alex is covering here is about a shooting that took place at Price Middle School in Atlanta, Georgia a
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15 year old student was shot by a 14 year old who I'm sorry a 15 year old student shot a 14 year old who?
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Thankfully survived a resource officer at the school was able to get the shooter to drop his weapon and he was taken into custody
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Now why might you think that Alex was so quick to decide that this was a gang related shooting?
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Well, I'm sure it has nothing to do with Atlanta being black Mecca
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Well, and I'm also sure that has nothing to do the fact that Price Middle School is a student population. That's a 95% black
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I don't think it has anything to do with that's probably a coincidence
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I don't think it has anything to do with those things in February
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police would come out and say that they were investigating a gang angle to the shooting but that information wasn't out when Alex dismissed the
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Shooting is not even really being worth covering
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I can find zero confirmation or details about the conclusion that of the gang investigation
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But even if the police are a hundred percent correct when they suggested that this could be the result of two gangs fighting that doesn't change
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Shit, I don't particularly trust the flippant definition of the word gang when it's applied to the two black eaths by police
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Particularly when it's short on any details and details are absent from the reporting on this story
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Even in the articles that I can find the victim's mother was publicly very clear that her son wasn't involved in any gangs and no one
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Alleging gang involvement has provided any concrete information
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Plus and most importantly even if this was a gang related shooting
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It doesn't make Alex, right?
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He had zero reason to assume it was a gang shooting other than he saw that all the students at that school were black
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This that's the only piece of information he's operating off of and that by definition means he's operating entirely off of racial prejudice
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Also parents couldn't pick up their kids from the school because they've been evacuated to a nearby church
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Where they were on a short lockdown before they got the whole situation sorted out. There's nothing specific
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Nothing suspicious about that at all
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So what you have here is Alex does not really care about this. Nope
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It's pretty easy to see the trend you can see why this would be suspicious in
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A vacuum that clip would be suspicious in a vacuum by itself
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No other context you'd be like, huh?
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He just does. Okay. He's just gonna dismiss that story. Okay, and then sell some shit sell some silver immediately, right?
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But that that selling part is kind of that's in his bones, you know, it's not that weird
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It is it is but I'm saying that devoid of context that desire to dismiss this story as gang related shooting
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You're like, huh? That's weird
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But when you take it in the context of the larger world that the end of January
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2013 Alex is existing in where he wants to tap into the Sandy Hook market. He wants to find his own
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What it's the general Boykin narrative offshoot that he wants to make of the Sandy Hook conspiracy stuff
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Yeah, he wants to find that and so he's he's he's trying to sift through
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Using his pan to sift through all of the school shooting. Yes, and whenever something's not gold. He's a fuck it
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This is the school shooting. I don't want so hey somebody got the only and why did he even say it other than
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Somebody sent him real quick Oh school shooting breaking news school shooting. Oh, never mind. It's in Atlanta black people don't give a shit
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Oh, I'm positive that what happened is that he got it from the producers
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They shot over an article to him and he saw that it was all black people. Yeah in the photo. Uh-huh
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And I don't know. Yeah, I got nothing on this now what I'm saying though
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It is that like the bigger context of this Sandy Hook
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Reclamation that he needs to do
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That's the larger context that this lives in and the Lone Star shooting coverage is the more specific
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Context that this lives in when he was covering that so excited that it was possibly a false flag
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That he was going to get the information on and when he started to realize add this isn't anything and it's all black people
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He's like immediately eyes is gang-related. Yep, the fact that he goes to that so quickly in both of these instances
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That what's the similarity?
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Predominantly black schools. It means that that's why that's how his brain works. Uh-huh. They this isn't worth
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Attention, it's not worth feeling anything about fuck it
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It's gangs who even cares if somebody in a gang gets shot Dan. It's a gang shooting
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So, you know what? Hey, he definitely does. I mean, he's he's literally expressed that yeah, right
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Yeah, so I don't know. I mean what you see here in this episode
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I think is not a ton of development in terms of Sandy Hook stuff, but a lot of racism
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Yeah, yep. There is a lot of bigotry on here. That is
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It's the sort of bigotry that Alex thrives on because it's that bigotry that isn't saying the n-word
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Yeah, it's not saying that like I don't know Mexicans are worse than us or anything like that
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But it's just as bad. It's presumptive profiling. Well, that's that's one version of it. Absolutely
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it's it's
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It's just as potent as bigotry as overt bigotry and maybe worse because it has that plausible deniability attached to it
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Right, right, and it's more it's a bit more insidious. So I don't like to see that
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It that's always a bummer
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But at the same time it's so interesting that that's consistent, you know
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Yeah, and then his Islamophobia is not yeah, that's very weird to me
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I think that's the regular progression for a
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A lot of these people that as they age they just get add more and more to the list of things they hate
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No, especially if they're big it's already sure there's something to that
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But I do think it's interesting that most people like this wouldn't just by default be like I'll hate them
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Just in case yeah, you know, yeah. Yeah, it seems like what you would do, but I don't know
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Anyway, we'll be back on Monday. I don't know
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I don't know how else to submit this episode. I mean, it's just there's giant racist
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There's nothing in it in it in terms of like what we're looking for scamming big giant racist. Yes. There we go
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I mean, there's nothing that we're looking for in terms of the Sandy Hook stuff, but there's so much of like
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Running a fraud being a bigot. Yeah
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It's it's well, he's got a job to do no
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And being a fraud and a bigot is his gig
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Yeah, I mean, it's it's a bit of a holding pattern that he's in in terms of conspiracy and the narratives of Sandy Hook and shit
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But it's just full steam ahead and demonize Obama demonize the left call for impeachment
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Yeah, these are under threat. It does seem like he's waiting for the next school shooting
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Yeah in order the next one that fits his purposes and then he'll really have waiting to pounce
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Yeah, right now and I just like I still gotta go do the show
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But I'm not gonna do the show and I will I get that I worry that the pounce is the Boston bombing
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You think so? I'm worried about that. Yeah, I don't know. It's possible. It's a couple of months. It's an April, right?
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It's it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm worried that that's why he responded so strongly to it
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Immediately. Yes. He does call it a false flag and everything on air. Yeah while he's interviewing Richard Belzer
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I it's possible that this is all priming the pump for that. Yeah, I kind of hope
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Something happens before then. Well, there's a while there's gonna be another school shooting in between that's true. There's it
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There's what I mean in
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2013 got a lot. I bet I bet there's at least four before the before April
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I'm sure there is maybe not hugely publicized ones, but yeah
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Yep, so we'll see we will find out what happened in the past and see how Alex behaved with it spoiler alert won't be good
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No matter what it is not gonna be good
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But we have a website. It's knowledge fight calm indeed. It is we are on Twitter at
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Right every single one even some payphones
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You can just go right by for if you're in a rural area and you still got a payphone
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You can just go walk right up there and download the show. Uh-huh
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Yeah
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Dial star four five completely zoned out. I don't know why but I
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My brain was like I am NOT accepting this. I will not accept the charges fair enough
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For this collect call download of the podcast. Yes
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See
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I've already used Jim Caro. Yeah, we can't wait. I mean the park is definitely killed people. Ooh, ooh
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Ooh
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Uh-huh that park ranger. No Ron Paul's friend who didn't show up Ron Paul's friend who canceled on Alex as a guest
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Whose name? I can't remember. Oh, they didn't kill anybody. Okay, but one guy who technically probably did
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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
