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Hey everybody, Dan here, just wanted to jump in real quick before the episode to give everyone
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a fair warning about the content that is upcoming on this episode.
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We cover an episode of Alex's show that has a lot of gross stuff that Alex has to say
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about child abuse and a lot of anti-LGBT sentiment that he is expressing, and if any of those
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things are things that you are very sensitive about, I wanted to not blindside you with
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any of this stuff.
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I know Alex says all sorts of horrible things, pretty much any episode that we listen to,
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but some of it's particularly gross on this episode, and so, hey, you deserve to know
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what you're getting into, I guess.
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Anyway, take care, and here's the episode.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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When was the last time you watched WrestleMania?
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Actually just over the weekend.
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What?
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Watched some grappling, watched some graps, as they say, some graps, yeah, had a very
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nice time, watched the 35th WrestleMania, and because everybody needs to know my opinions
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on wrestling, I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of my favorite moments from the
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show.
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Okay, all right.
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I thought that Kofi Kingston winning the championship was fantastic, I thought it was great, but
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I knew that was going to happen.
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There's no way leading into that that I thought for a second that Daniel Bryan was going to
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retain the championship after that build.
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There was such a weird racial overtone to the build, the idea of Vince being like, people
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like you don't become champion, and stuff like that, that sort of idea that if Kofi
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lost, it would send the weirdest storytelling message, I wouldn't put it past the WWE.
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If Kofi lost and then somebody put a MAGA hat on Daniel Bryan, might as well call it
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there guys.
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I wouldn't put it past the WWE, but I also thought if they want to move forward, I really
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don't think that's as much storytelling potential.
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I loved that moment, and I loved the match, and I thought it was great, but again, I expected
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it.
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What I did not expect was there's this guy named Elias, and his whole character is that
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he comes out with his guitar, and at the beginning of his run, he would come out and sing songs
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making fun of the city that he was in to get booed, so someone could come out and beat
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him up.
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That's nice.
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He's a court jester.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It was kind of his thing for a bit, and then people started to like him.
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Of course!
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He's a court jester!
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So people started to like him, he started to turn into a good guy for a bit, and then
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the people who write the show couldn't figure it out, and he's back to being a bad guy or
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whatever.
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So his segment at WrestleMania was amazing.
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So what he did is he had a video, and there was prerecorded video of himself playing piano
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and drums.
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Well, that's...
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Simultaneously?
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A split screen?
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Two different videos, but they're synced up so he can interact with them, and then he's
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in the ring...
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Like a David Cross H. John Benjamin bit.
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He's in the ring playing guitar along with himself on drums and piano, and it's so bizarrely
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surreal.
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That's fantastic.
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For WrestleMania, there's 80,000 people in the arena, and they're doing this ridiculous
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nonsense.
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This musical number?
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I love it.
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It was fantastic.
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Bollymania is what it's called now.
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I loved it so much, and I thought it was absurd that the WWE let him do that, and so I really
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enjoyed that.
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And then he got interrupted by John Cena, who was not announced to be that.
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He's not a musical fan.
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He's not a fan.
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Well, little do you know.
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He's part of a character where he was the Doctor of Thuganomics.
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What?
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What?
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John Cena was the Doctor of Thuganomics?
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Before he was all about the military and saluting people and stuff like that, his character
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was he was a battle rapper.
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Oh, good boy.
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How did I not know this?
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He recorded an album that actually has a couple good songs on it.
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The Bad Bad Man is a really good song.
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Marty Turned Me Around on that one.
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I feel like that's a Flight of the Conchords bit.
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So John Cena comes out as the Doctor of Thuganomics character.
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The hip hop eponymous and the rhyme-noceros of flanking him.
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He's back in his old character.
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It's fantastic.
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He comes out and he has some battle rap lines that he says to Elias, and then he beats him
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up and leaves.
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All right, that's good.
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It was fantastic.
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I thought it was well executed.
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I enjoyed the hell out of it.
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I love it.
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Oh, man.
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So anyway, I love the Iconics, I love Elias, and Thrill.
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I love Elias now.
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I give WrestleMania four stars, go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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Wonderful.
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It was fantastic.
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All right.
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I expected nothing out of it, and I got almost nothing but entertainment.
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Couple of slow matches that I think they could have left off the card, but who gives a shit?
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I can't.
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Fantastic.
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I can't believe.
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Since I stopped watching professional wrestling when I was 11 or 12, even then I never would
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have expected a full on musical number.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was great.
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That's fantastic.
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And the fact that it was so surreal.
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I tipped my hat.
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Yep.
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Something else I tip my hat to is a couple of new donors.
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Nice.
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People who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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We appreciate it.
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So first, Jason, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Jason.
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Thanks, Jason.
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That's Jason spelled J-A-I-S-O-N.
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Oh, oh, okay.
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Got a little English on it.
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All right.
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I like it.
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Next, Stein.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Stein.
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Thanks, Stein.
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Next, Tyler.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Tyler.
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Thanks, Tyler.
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Next, Courtney.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Courtney.
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Anybody call your court?
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Nobody calls your court.
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I'm gonna.
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Okay.
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Next, Timothy.
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Thank you so much.
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Your policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Timothy.
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Thank you, Timothy.
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I always knew McVeigh would be a fan of my podcast.
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He'd come around.
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McVeigh was going to be here for us and finally I'd like to say thank you to
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somebody who's joined up on a little bit of an elevated level we appreciate it so
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very much so Basil thank you so much you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk
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someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark jar jar Binks
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has a Caribbean black he's a loser little little titty baby I don't want to
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hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ thank you so much basil thank you
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very much basil if you're out there listening and you're thinking hey I'd
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like I like what these guys do like to support the show you can do that by
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going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking the button that says
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support the show we would appreciate it I indeed some people in our group on
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Facebook have discovered that the next goal that we're working towards is me
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getting attached very fragile tattoo yes that is encouraged some people to to
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sign up towards my my inking and I'd like to say thank you in advance to them
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worth every penny guys yeah it'll be great the Dom it's my way of being able
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to get a tattoo that signifies the time of this show and this sort of thing but
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without ever getting anything that looks like Alex tattooed on my body which was
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the struggle to figure out are you sure you're done with just a microphone no
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that's not specific enough so Jordan today we are going over on our last
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episode we did April 4th that was Thursday yeah yeah we've got six months
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to live uh-huh six months till civilization class oh that's we can
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still live okay it'll just be difficult we'll be eating cans of underground well
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we went different directions okay I was thinking of hobo bean can you're talking
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about being a Moorlach so we did that that fourth and I told you that I didn't
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have enough time to get to the fifth and I did intend to but I also didn't want
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to right for for some reasons that'll become very clear and I was kind of
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thinking about like maybe we'll just dip our toe in and then we'll talk about
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Monday's episode mm-hmm Alex is in LA so Owen Schroyer was hosting on Monday so
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we got nothing to go over on Monday all the project Camelot stuff stinks I
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watched an episode of Dave Dobbin Meyer and like what am I even doing it's not
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even worth insulting this is a terrible show so I can see the moment of
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realization in your head you're what like 13 minutes in you're looking and
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listening to him and you're just going this man is crazy why am I thinking
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about 13 minutes in is not even close 13 minutes in he's still talking about
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like churches that he's going to be at he's still doing plug still plugging
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and trying to make sure everyone's in the fucking Skype hangout or whatever
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that's right there's 15 people very bad very bad joke and so I realized like I
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let's just do it we got to do it there's a lot of people who have also wanted us
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to go over this episode and what I was going to do is I was just gonna go over
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the part that people wanted us to talk about and then cover something else yeah
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and that thing is that Alex apparently is coming around on QAnon and we'll get
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to that at the end of this episode okay but one of the reasons I I think people
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are kind of missing a little bit of the forest for the trees mm-hmm there's much
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bigger issues going on in this episode than Alex sort of embracing QAnon yeah
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Rob do started a spin-off show called Q and up with Q and on I believe right
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when up yeah he would I would respect that a little bit because that would be
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enterprising that would show initiatives and show hustle yeah it's from me he'd
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be PJ dubs no no no so before Alex gets to saying what he has to say about Q
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and on he spends the entirety of the rest of the episode talking about
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something that I don't want to go over but we got to and you'll get why pretty
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quickly imagine
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of Stephen King novel love this song but we're all over the Western world
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convicted pedophiles child rapists and worse disguise themselves as clowns they
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then call themselves drag queens all disguise openly are given admittance to
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elementary schools nursery schools public parks where they then prey
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directly on children ladies and gentlemen a group in Houston has busted
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their second convicted child rapist both men were convicted of raping six-year-old
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boys they heavily hid their identities used multiple aliases but the group mass
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resistance was able to track them and find out their real identities they're
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now tracking others I will let you know we are doing it as well boots on the
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ground so just real quick Alex there at the end says that he's doing it as well
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so if he gets sued over this eventually then he's saying he's doing it as well
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he can't hide behind this we didn't investigate Sandy Hook we just repeated
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other people's stuff yep so that's good to note ahead of time because I think
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that what he's doing could end up leading first of all to people getting
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hurt and second of all to a possible lawsuit so one of the things that I need
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to point out before we get into any of this is that he doesn't know the details
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of the cases at all that he's talking about and he's just making stuff up to
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fit his narratives for instance one of the people that he's talking about here
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committed their crime at the age of 16 so the records have been sealed and
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Alex can't possibly know what actually happened in that case yeah and in the
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other case the offender was punished with five months probation which seems
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like not the punishment you'd get from the crime that Alex is describing yeah I
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don't know the details of it and Alex can't either and neither can the people
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that he's getting this information from he's making a lot of assumptions in
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order to make it salacious to his listeners that's fucked up beyond that
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this is not the way I would have chosen to start this episode but I can only
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really follow Alex's lead and respond to whatever he throws in my way in this
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case we see that he chose to lead off with talking some real gross shit about
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the drag queen story hour something that will play a major role in this
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broadcast here from the 5th of April Friday episode honestly I turned this on
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and like I told you my first thought is nope no need for this but there's
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nothing else to do Owen Schroyer is hosting on Monday so here we are one of
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the reasons this is particularly off-putting is because Alex isn't just
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making things up but he's twisting and manipulating a kernel of reality into
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something horrendously bigoted two drag queens associated with the Houston
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story hour the Houston drag queen story hour offshoot have been revealed to be
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sex offenders and Alex is taking this information and running with it to
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commit a horrible composition fallacy and argue that all of the queens are
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thus pedophiles and they're out to get your kids there are a number of issues
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here and just so no one gets twisted about any of this stuff nothing I'm
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going to say in this episode at all is defending the idea of letting sex
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offenders be around children that is at very least an unnecessary risk and
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definitely is inappropriate in a public library setting for instance that is not
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what I'm taking issue with here at all I am concerned about this I sincerely am
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but my concern has zero to do with the drag queen story hour it has everything
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to do with Houston drag queen story hour is not a national organization with a
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corporate structure where the crew in each city is the same on different dates
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like they go around touring there's a there's a central organization with
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independent chapters that people have organized in cities around the world
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there's a page on their website where you can reach out and start your own
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satellite chapter if you want to and it seems like a pretty easy process in
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March when the first sex offender was discovered the Houston Public Library
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released a statement in the news or about this news quote in our review of
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our process and of this participant we discovered that we failed to complete a
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background check as required by our own guidelines we deeply regret this
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oversight and the concern that this may cause our customers we realize this is a
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serious matter running background checks on people who apply to run events is the
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responsibility of the venue as is clearly discussed on the drag queen
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story hours website on the page about starting your own chapter quote some
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venues especially public libraries or schools may require a formal background
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check as this is often the standard practice for anyone working with
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children that said we hope this is applied to everyone we don't think drag
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performers should be singled out for special scrutiny as we have every right
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to participate fully in our communities so their position on it is we we
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understand that there they'll probably be background checks as there should be
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for everyone and we are a part of everyone yeah so cool this is the story
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here it's not a story of drag queens being sex offenders or pedophiles it's a
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story about inappropriate levels of screening and oversight specifically in
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the Houston Public Library system the second sex offender that was just
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recently discovered and Alex is responding to in that clip also was
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involved in event at the Houston Public Library so that's my position on this if
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Alex and his ilk want to complain about this the thing to complain about is the
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Houston library not following their own procedures that is it that's the story
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plain and simple I hate it's so disgusting to me and I feel the same way
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about it like not the same way but in terms of the way it's being used I feel
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like it's so similar to when a good guy with a gun actually does protect his
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home you know he old man shoots it would be invader is that headline that you
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hear all the time and it's like sure one time great I get it you're going to try
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and paint it as though this is what everybody can write and does do right
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with their guns you know yeah in the same way that's like yes of course
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because they're people and when you get a large enough number of people it's
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going to happen there's going to be a certain percentage of any group that is
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going to have people who are offenders exactly yeah and I guess you could do
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the same thing for librarians or teachers or coaches you know like ever
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youth pastors well you want to if you want to absolutely you know if you want
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to say that this is an endemic problem for a drag queens it's an endemic
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problem and more so for youth pastors well that's what you want to do right I
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don't know the stats on it but that very well may be the case and the other issue
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too is that like the actual drag queen story our organization doesn't know who
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all of the people who are participating in the events are yeah they probably are
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in communication with the person who's organizing like let's say the Seattle
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chapter of it or whatever and then that person subcontracts out the
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responsibility of finding the people to be involved there is there is a gap here
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in terms of oversight but it it's not a problem with the event itself it's a
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problem with Houston yeah Houston has a problem to paraphrase topics so now
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another issue here is that the information Alex is working with is all
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coming from a group called mass resistance which the SP LC lists as an
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anti LGBT hate group and from what I can tell there's good reason for that the
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group was founded in 1995 under the name parents right coalition our parents
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rights coalition but changed their name to mass resistance in 2006 quote when
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our role is the true resistance to tyrannical government became clear the
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word mass in their name is short for Massachusetts and in 2003 the
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Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage should be permitted
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and then governor Mitt Romney was reluctant to start a fight over the
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issue which really pissed off homophobes like this group mass resistance yeah who
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saw equal rights as an expression of governmental tyranny mass resistance
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passes themselves off his quote pro-family as a group but if you scratch
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beneath the surface at all or just look at the surface it's super clear that all
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they really give a shit about is agitating against LGBT rights and access
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to abortion the they support conversion therapy which they call reparative
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therapy they believe that anti-bullying initiatives are secretly secretly just
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about indoctrinating straight kids into being gay which is the same complaint
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that they have about straight gay Alliance organizations oh my god their
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president Brian Kim anchor has a weird habit of comparing those who support
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LGBT rights to Nazis like when he said he wanted LGBT activists quote destroyed
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because they quote would send us to concentration camps if they could or
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when he would send you to concentration camps I think they'd be much more benign
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than that you're right they would be a soft no on it yeah or when he said quote
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I saw what happened to the Jews in 1930s and 40s and much of that same thing is
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happening to Christians now oh yeah bottom line these people are a bunch of
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ass when was the last time he was starved I don't I don't know what his
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bills are like also in October 2008 48 year old Michael Olivio an employee of
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mass resistance got into a little bit of trouble for creeping around outside West
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Middle School in Andover Massachusetts and taking pictures of students I will
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read to you from the Andover Eagle Tribune this is actually kind of funny I
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mean it's not because this guy's a creep but the way this plays out if there's
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anything that's pretty funny on this episode is gonna believe that okay okay
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quote police said the incident happened at West Middle as students children were
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being let out of school as parents watched Olivio parked his car got out
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and began taking many pictures of the school and the students police received
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a flood of 911 calls from parents and soon the school called yeah a gym
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teacher tried to talk to Olivio who fled toward the high school police said when
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police called toward the high school well there's two schools that he was
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outside West Middle School and he fled towards trying to get to home base he
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was like see these guys are almost adults it's better to take pictures of
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them whatever okay so he fled when police caught him Olivio said he was
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taking pictures for a documentary and he would and he would not elaborate on it
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lieutenant James Hashim said Olivio was ordered to leave the area because
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police had no reason to detain him further but then the man began to act
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radically Hashim said after being told to leave the area Olivio ran through the
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yards on Shawsheen Road and nearby side streets shedding clothing as he ran
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police said all right he had removed several items of clothing before
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officers finally caught him on North Main Street and placed him in handcuffs
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I want to see this documentary now! This documentary is going to be amazing!
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quote he was not completely naked Hashim said
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thanks for clarifying so this guy who was working for mass resistance their
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argument on it was that there was like a gay straight alliance meeting that was
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happening at the high school and he accidentally went to the middle school
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sure whatever even if that's the case I still think you're a bunch of creeps
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right yeah but but then yeah I know it'd be better if he was taking pictures of
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high school kids like great guys what are you doing at least he has like this
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is my like political argument and I'm at least he has that he has no reason to be
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at the middle school he has no reason to be naked afterwards either that's the
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other part that's that's a problem yeah yeah that's weird the idea my code is
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weed I gotta get rid of it I don't know I don't know what is flush it down the
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toilet no one can possibly know except for this dude this olivio dude so beyond
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that all that in a November 9th 2018 post on their own website and I have to
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stress this their own website mass resistance kind of admits to being
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liars trying to demonize trans people quote our side concocted the bathroom
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safety male predator argument as a way to avoid any uncomfortable battles over
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LGBT ideology and still fire up people's emotions wow that's that's it's brave to
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just say the evil shit you're doing and just admit that we made that we made
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that argument up it's not real we just wanted to avoid these said you know the
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the argument that we're gonna lose we wanted to avoid that but still flare up
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people's emotions we came up with this bullshit that demonized a bunch of
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people and really I mean you got a lot of people hurt and made people feel like
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other things non-human things that'd be like Reagan coming out in 86 and just
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being like hey guys this whole welfare queen thing I made it up completely well
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I mean the way it's bullshit you may notice this is like the day after the
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midterm elections and so it was sort of a breakdown of like where where can we
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do better what did and I I don't know why they put it on the website that's
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very yeah that seems bad and you know what it's hard not to see that they're
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kind of doing a pretty similar thing here as it relates to the drag queen
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story hour mark mark Richards is like see now I didn't want to you know I
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wanted to avoid that a whole uncomfortable murder part so I got
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somebody else to do it for me see it's completely different and I didn't want
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to have a conversation about that so I was off world and Raptors love me
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exactly that should give you some sense of the kind of dicks who are behind the
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reporting that Alex is operating off of you know we have a guy who ran naked
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away from a school after the police told him to leave when he was taking pictures
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of kids and the sort of organization that's very willing to on their website
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say we were bullshitting here trying to demonize trans people while it does
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appear true that there are two there were two sex offenders who were
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involved in a drag queen story hour specifically in Houston and that is not
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good there's also no justification for demonizing the LGBT community or drag
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queens with that information which is that Alex is going to proceed to do
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throughout this entire episode of course one final thought and this is pointless
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as we know that highlighting hypocrisy and people like Alex never really
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matters but what he's doing is identical to the thing he accuses the left of doing
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to gun owners when a gun enthusiast goes off and shoots a bunch of people Alex
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screams bloody murder about how you can't blame all gun owners which
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indicates that he understands that it's not right to apply the sins of an
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individual to the group that they're a part of he knows what he's doing is
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bullshit but he doesn't care because it creates a potent emotional appeal to get
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his audience to hate the group that he wants them to hate for his own purposes
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and so that brings us up to speed with what the actual story is it's bad we
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can't have a conversation about these drag well you know people get all angry
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whenever you start calling people names so what we're gonna do is we're gonna
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find two of them who are actually sex offenders that's gonna give us a foot in
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the door to call everybody sex offenders let's put it up on our website link to
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mass resistance we're great mm-hmm so there's a lot of this isn't going to be
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fun but we'll get through it the best we can and it sets the stage for Alex
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talking about QAnon towards the end of the episode which I think is important
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to recognize all of this in its proper context calling anybody a pedophile is
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the slippery slope to believing in QAnon I believe it might be yeah so here's
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here's our next clip where Alex just misreports some stuff and they are
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organized out of New York City directed in England Germany France Belgium Sweden
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Canada the United States Japan they are commanded by convicted murderers they
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are commanded by sinister individuals you cannot make this up yes you can and
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again when you go to their Facebook and Twitter pages when they're together a
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party they just look like women but when they go out it's in full disguise he's
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just talking about like drag outfits like performance outfits and he's also
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like whenever he talks about like they have multiple aliases yes they have drag
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names yeah that's part of the culture of the community right like I don't it's
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not like some sort of a nefarious thing to hide your identity as much as it is a
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persona or whatever it's a part of your identity yeah so I don't I thought that
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Alex was kind of wrong about the their run out of New York because it was based
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originally in San Francisco and that's where it came out of but apparently the
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actual 501 c3 group that runs the operation and everything is based in New
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York so Alex wasn't offline out of line about that but I'm not sure where he's
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getting this information about the story hour being quote commanded by convicted
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murderers I'm eager to see a source on that but since he doesn't explain I'm
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left to dig into where he could possibly be getting that information from also
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where are how are these convicted murderers giving these commands I think
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are they out well actually get free I think that he thinks that Michael Alig
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the guy from party monster you know the guy based on yeah I think he thinks
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Macaulay Culkin right yeah yeah I think he thinks that he's behind all of this
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okay I don't see any evidence that that's the case I don't know we'll get
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to that later but that's one theory that's one possibility because he did
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kill that dude yeah no and I like that he's expanding you know everybody's got
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to diversify their portfolio but if I remember correctly kill the guy and
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start drag queen story hour you know he's got two things going on if I
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recall correctly Alec got manslaughter for that like I don't think it was a
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murderer he's not a convicted murderer but be that isn't me let's not dwell
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into that the only other possibility I can come up with is that he's referring
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to a September 2018 blog entry on Christian post about us about how
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Franklin Graham was against the story hours the blog post includes discussion
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of Ho Chi Mo Chi a drag queen who describes their persona as quote your
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resident killer clown from outer space this was also covered all over right
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wing media including posts on world night daily among other places so it's
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clear that it's something that Alex very easily could have come across yeah this
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person whose persona is a killer clown from outer space yeah he's just taking
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that literally it's possible how do you hear killer clown from outer space is my
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persona and think they're not having fun that's that's serious fun that's
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that's a fun thing to yeah yeah yeah I mean if you believe they're a killer
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you also have to believe they're from outer space exactly enjoy yeah I can
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find that Ryback's character for a while I don't think it was I can he just like
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to eat you wanted to be fed more I can find no other indication other than the
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Michael Alec thing and that might come up a little bit later and I actually I
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don't think that's what it is but it's the only other connection I can make in
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my mind even from aggressively anti LGBT groups like mass resistance that there's
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a convicted murderer who's commanding the drag queen story hours if I were the
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people organizing these events I might consider suing Alex for what appears to
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be yet another case of him defaming people yeah like because he needs to
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defend that assertion that's a that's a claim that's that's something that is
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not okay oh yeah so maybe you guys want to do that and he's investigating you so
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might be a good idea to get him on the air right now you might also have a
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situation where that investigation turns into harassment yeah you might be doing
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this to yourself again if at a certain point Barnes doesn't start sending out
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tips to people who should sue him through lots of heavy breathing exactly
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in terms of people getting a little bit violent in their language about the
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story hours though I submit to you Pat Robertson he got on his show not too far
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back on the 700 Club and he decried the mainstreaming of the LGBT community
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comparing it to what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah quote this was the original
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crime that led to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the United States
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of America is on a very slippery ground it's not just some library that's going
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to be in trouble it's the whole population when God brings judgment
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Robertson went on and say quote they're men acting like women they used to call
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them he she's but they're reading books to children library officials say it
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fits their version of inclusivity and diversity give me a break if you read
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the Bible there were a couple cities where they actually the men tried to
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have sex with angels who are male figures and God destroyed those cities
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so Pat Robertson isn't sort of insisting that this will bring destruction to all
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of us if we allow it to continue which if you think about it that justify is
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hurting these people or running them out of town or yeah killing them I mean I
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believe I believe he left out the second part of that story where the father tells
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the mob to rape his two daughters instead of the angels I think if I
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remember correctly he remembers that part I think he might have left that
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part out on purpose and then of course we have James Green of Texas who got
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arrested back in February for showing up to the freed Montrose library with a gun
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in an attempt to stop the drag queen story hour in his words attempt to stop
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it he was a self-described Trump supporter and claimed he was being
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arrested after he had you know made a big scene he got arrested and he said it
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was because he's a white Christian live streamed at all I'm being arrested
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because I'm a Christian can you hold a gun up in the air he didn't hold it up
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in the air okay just to be clear okay he did you had a concealed carry permit so
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it's entirely possible that is having a gun is just a coincidence yeah he could
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just be having a gun yeah but that doesn't mean this dude isn't a real
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weirdo as a police spokesman explained quote he was previously banned from
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filming children at the library and has been known to cause disturbances several
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officers had to escort him out so he's a much like this guy who shed his clothes
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running away from a middle school he seems like a bit of a creep himself
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maybe he's not a bigot maybe he just hates libraries like that could be
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another MAGA prejudice right it makes sense from by they don't like words or
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learn from my two-year investigation down these roads I have learned there's
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an allergic ness to reading so anything that like might be bringing attention to
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libraries I could see that being part of their motivation you're making me feel
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stupid burn it down I'll have bad news so in this next clip Alex boy remember
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last episode Alex kind of seemed to be imagining himself as the Christ for a
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second he was a bit of a Messiah Messiah head yeah in this next clip he talks
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about his his role in sort of a religious cosmology and then I want you
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to remember that Alex likes to say that he's only interested in non offensive
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violence when someone attacks him then he fights them back see if this matches
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that that worldview you know vengeance is God's cool engines is God's but God
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has instruments of engines starts always a twist to the riddle what it's a riddle
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and so the globalists expect to try to terrorize us we're not one of these poor
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kids you got strung up one of your dungeons we're going to terrorize you
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like God said because you deserve what you've done to these children to be done
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to you huh that's Christian I'm just gonna leave it at that but we're hunting
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you you're not hunting us we're coming for you we're looking for you we're
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hunting you we're seeking you I think you figure that out now haven't you all
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your threats and all your crap it's hilarious
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hmm stalking and killing people is hilarious you're gonna pay for what
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you've done to the children I think that clip especially parts of it we're
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hunting you all that sort of we're gonna terrorize you all that stuff is not
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gonna play well in court like if there's some sort of a lawsuit about this
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eventually nope I know that I'm starting to listen to Alex Jones in the present
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day especially through the prism of history like I've already become
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detached from the present yeah I know that he's probably gonna get sued for
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this I wonder how this will sound it like in a deposition like all those
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clips are like real bad yeah it's not like we're doing present-day Alex it's
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like we're doing a 2019 investigation is how well I mean we don't know how this
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plays like let's imagine someone shooting some of these drag queens or
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something like that like let's imagine a terrible possible outcome of some of
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this language this rhetoric you hear him saying stuff like this you you
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understand how the how this process works or as Alex would like to say how
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the cow ate the cabbage yeah you know yeah you see the kernels of like what is
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the what is the role of like the the radio hosts in Rwanda in 1990s or early
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90s yeah the people who were you know like soaking the cockroach exactly like
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all this sort of thing you see you know that this is how the process works yeah
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these people who encourage the quote-unquote the illusion of a lone wolf
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those sorts of people Alex has a role like that I remember growing up reading
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the Bible and hearing Jesus say you should turn the other cheek and you
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should forgive even those who have transgressed the most upon you and God
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said vengeance is mine the thing that most people leave out of that verse is
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the parenthetical unless you really feel like I told you that I wanted you to
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commit there's in which case gather up a posse start investigating and murder if
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you want there's red text and it says Jesus then said this is a riddle that
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was this this was also in The Hobbit I believe there was the riddles in the
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dark moment between here's my row and here's my riddle what is bloated drunk
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and claims to be exacting vengeance for the Lord
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ooh Steve Bannon Alex Joe oh shit could have been either I'm so close so in this
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next clip Alex is in the middle of reading a list of like news articles
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about you know just acts at crimes that he's ascribing to Muslims and then
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asserting that these news organizations don't point out that the people who
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committed these crimes are Muslims and he brings up one that I take particular
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issue with which we will discuss in a couple seconds on the other end of this
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clip as a rotter ham grooming gang survivor all people to know about their
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religious extremism which inspired my abusers the independent Muslims so that
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you can hear there from that the point that he's trying to make is they don't
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say it they don't say that it's Muslims the article that Alex is referencing as
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hiding the fact that the perpetrators of this crime are Muslims is actually one
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of the articles that we went over when we were discussing the reality of the
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grooming gang narrative and how it plays into the anti-immigrant and
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anti-islam propaganda that's on the rise around the world while Alex is correct
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that the headline doesn't identify the gang members this woman was victimized
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by as Muslims that fact is brought up in the sixth sentence of the article and is
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mentioned repeatedly throughout it the only conceivable way for someone to
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think that they were covering up the fact that these particular criminals
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were Muslims would be to literally not even try to read the article and just
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assume that headlines are all that exists now it bears repeating that this
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article was written by a survivor of one of these gangs and her perspective is
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being disrespected by how Alex is using this article from the text quote in
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mainland Europe conflict surrounding immigrants and refugees has been fueled
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by stories of women being raped by migrants people have been calling for
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violent attacks against any Muslims and have declared war on Islam if anything
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rising anti-muslim hate will probably make groomers stronger in their
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convictions and drive ordinary young Muslim men toward fundamentalism
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grooming gangs and terrorism this survivor even directly discusses Alex's
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good buddy Tommy Robinson and his bigot group the English Defense League quote
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for Tommy Robinson and his followers to focus on an entire religion based on the
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cruel interpretations of some scriptures by some people is unhelpful to say the
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least most grooming gang survivors I know absolutely condemn anti-islamic
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hate and we're uncomfortable with English Defense League protests we
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certainly don't want random attacks on all Muslims you can't cure harm with
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more harm Alex is pretending that he's standing up for victims of these crimes
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but in reality all he's doing is trying to demonize the entirety of Islam and
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the way he's doing it is particularly distasteful I mean really think about
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this what he's doing is taking the first-hand account of a survivor of the
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crime he's so upset about lying about it by pretending that that account covers
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up the fact that the perpetrators were Muslim then arrives at a conclusion that
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is in direct opposition to what the writer a survivor of this crime
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advocates for this is an abusive level of non journalism and just so clearly
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indicative of what he's all about isn't it called a triple Lindy yeah I think
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that's what it says it's a it's impressive and it's cruelty and
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inhumanity yeah that's he's taking her account and and just saying fuck it I
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don't care what you actually say of course I just want to use you as a prop
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well that's because she's being influenced by the globalist because
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they're covering up the the fact that they're silencing her he's giving her a
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real voice because they wrote her statement for her trying to cover up
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that it's violent Islamic extremists that must be that must be the case um so
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here we enter the period of the show where Alex is just gonna just start
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rambling about how these drag queens are demons this will go on for a while he
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will get interrupted by having a guest who's a terrible person from everything
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I can tell but here this is just a taste of things to come you're gonna see
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shocking footage ladies and gentlemen him actually green it grooming small
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children giving them roses yes red roses so on Mondays at 8 perhaps a box of
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candy I have candy in the van I have puppies it's all coming up ladies and
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gentlemen children brought into men dresses satanic clowns going so this is
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all the liberalism oh yeah please support the broadcast please spread the
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word info or store calm in followers life calm
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the planet very boys are the ready you will not stop us ever yeah children are
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our rule free shipping sure wide in four months I've got a t-shirt that's pretty
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gross that's profoundly gross profoundly gross number in the deposition where he
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said that the content and the advertising are separate yeah like he
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jumped back and forth between the demon voice and the ad pitch that's crazy like
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in that in the middle of a sentence he goes back and forth that's crazy and
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that voice that he's doing is like exactly the same voice he uses to claim
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that like women and our demons at abortion rallies and stuff like that
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it's hacky at this point he needs new material he's like he's like a road dog
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who has a shit act yeah you know it's it reminds me of shit posting or not shit
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but I'm not sure if I'm getting it correctly you're too old to have this
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conversation no no that that combination of very real disgusting thoughts being
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surrounded by this ironic sense of look at how much fun I'm having like listen
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to those fake laughs and shit like that if you if you just heard if you heard
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that was the first one if that was the first clip of Alex's that you heard it
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wouldn't surprise me at all if you were like oh see he's just being an asshole
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he's he's doing this to like maybe rile people up and you guys are just over
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reacting cuz you're all better maybe like because of that that ending like
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like come on you're fuck off yeah that's weak yeah and it's supposed to be funny
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right I guess it's supposed to be I don't think it is I don't think it yeah I don't
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know maybe maybe it's just because I I mean I don't think this is funny period
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but like I'm a tough laugh I'll be honest the only thing that makes me
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laugh are Elias's bits of WrestleMania and I don't know not much else yeah
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that's about it I'm consistently shocked that people say this show is funny
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because you do not laugh whatsoever no my jokes are terrible I smile what am I
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even doing here but yeah I don't know it's it's an interesting question like
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do some people have such bad sense of humor that they think that that's funny
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I think they mean it must be a possibility yeah but I don't think I
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don't think it's supposed to be for comedy I don't think it's for comedic
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effect I think it's for like like directly demonizing people like he's
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trying to make that or like the argument people do behave this way right he says
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it repeatedly throughout this episode absolutely that they snarl like like all
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that stuff so I mean it's not if it's a joke then he beats it into the ground
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yeah that does make sense for him though it's not a joke so it's these people are
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demons these drag queens are demons course but what you don't know is not
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only are they demons they're also a pedophile army that is coming to take us
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all they have a lot of ladies and gentlemen if there was a army of
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financed pedophiles in there and their supporters dressing as clowns disguise
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themselves being an access to children as young as three convicted pedophiles
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would you want to know about it would you want to stand up against it or would
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you be like local Houston news that laughed and said gotta get him while
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they're young a lot of folks are joining the globalist team right now a lot of
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people are showing the world they're willing to do whatever it takes for
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their father Lucifer to give them power I think that Alex probably dodged
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another defamation lawsuit by just saying local Houston news and that's
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saying what he's talking about because no one said that yeah the only thing
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that comes close to approximating that is articles that people have written
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about the idea of you know up ending bigotry by having a association with and
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an awareness and contact with people of different lifestyles different
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identities different races different occupations even like that sort of thing
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does lead you to not have whatever prejudice take over in your mind you
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can't have like let's say just on a very simple level you can't think that all
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construction workers are stupid if when you're younger you meet construction
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workers who are nice then thoughtful and and kind and that sort of thing you will
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have a positive association with with construction workers that stereotypes
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won't be able to penetrate and that's the argument of get him while they're
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young that's the only place where that argument has ever been used yeah not in
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terms of like you got a yeah we need to spread around their experiences so they
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don't turn into horrible bigots yeah what is that quote a mind that stretched
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to a new idea and ever returns to its original dimensions or whatever I don't
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I don't it can't be that it can't be that obvious that he knows he's trying
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to get people killed because what you are doing is calling wait till the end
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of the entire group of people an army of clowns raping your kids yeah you're not
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calling them they're they don't have names no they're not and they're not
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since they're not actually an army but you're telling people that they are the
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only thing that the people who hear it think is well if they're an army we have
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to make our own army right and well you know a preemptive strike because what we
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can't allow them to rape another kid before we do anything to him what we
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have to do is get them before they do your way ahead of the thinking but yes
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that is exactly the message he's trying to put out how can you not realize that
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that's gonna get people fucking kill he doesn't care that's his place in this
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guy he he could he does not condone violence oh absolutely very publicly
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announces violence no but does everything possible in order to inspire
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violence out of the people listening towards the groups that he targets yeah
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that is what Alex Jones's role is and you'll see it reach its natural
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conclusion at the end of this episode and it's profoundly fucked up and way
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worse than anything that has to do with Q Anon well I mean Q Anon has the
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potential to be that for a whole lot of other right the idea of Alex saying that
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he is okay with Q Anon I think is secondary to what he's trying to do to
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these people and he's doing it with the help of this group mass resistance and
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so at this point Alex has someone from mass resistance on as a guest what are
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they doing are they they're in Massachusetts what do they do they've
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stretched they've stretched yeah there's yeah they're they've started in 95 in
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Massachusetts but have since grown into national and actually they've spread
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into foreign countries notably Nigeria has a foothold God mass resistance yeah
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because they fucking anti gay sentiment over there more like ass resistance oh
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boy um so Alex has Tracy Shannon on from mass resistance and here is her first
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volley I would say in the interview where she argues I think I think what
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she's arguing is that the First Amendment does not protect the drag the
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First Amendment is not there to protect and promotion of sexuality sexual
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behavior and ideas are reflective of adult sexual content or you can promote
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sexual doesn't protect a bunch of men dressed up like demon clowns most of
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which are our sex workers from having access to children that's right that's
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right that's not what it's supposed to be for it well I mean like if you if you
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follow that line of thought all that's really going on is you disagree with the
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speech or whatever because it's not of course the First Amendment doesn't
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protect people you know sex offenders being around children of course not
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that's not what anyone would argue but the only thing that she can really be
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responding to is like I don't agree with this the First Amendment doesn't apply
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here because I find it objectionable and if she wants to open that box then of
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course good luck ever having a church yeah I mean the the only thing that if
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they want to keep doing this because they always do this reactively they're
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always like the First Amendment doesn't protect this the First Amendment does
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protect this then before we even start with any of those arguments before you
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start doing this in single servings if the right-wing wants to fucking put down
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a goddamn list of what the First Amendment they think protects and
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doesn't protect I'd be interesting then we can have a conversation about it line
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items exactly if you want to do that because if they did do that then they'd
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have to realize how fucking hypocritical and stupid they are yeah they'd have to
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show some cards they'd never do that no I would I would I would love that that's
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I mean it's really stupid like it taken at its core what she's saying is that
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the First Amendment doesn't allow people to wear clothes that I disagree with
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them wearing lewdness well I mean what does that mean the wearing a man wearing
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a dress is to lose for you lewd okay founding fathers would hate it so you
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are going to then bring the force of the government into legislating articles of
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clothing that are appropriate for people to wear yeah cool and I don't think that
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women should be allowed to wear pants either well I mean I guess that's
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implied drag kings probably go Alex doesn't seem to have any concern about
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that side of things and admittedly drag queen story hour did begin with just
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drag queens but his sense expanded out to to drag kings and such yeah but like
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yeah I mean like if you really if you really take this line then what you're
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going to do is create I don't know a brutally repressive authoritarian
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government that has authority over things as minute as what clothes you're
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allowed to wear oh come on which seems to be something that Alex would be
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horribly against well all we want to do is just protect people from lewdness of
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any and all kind he's horribly against tyranny unless it's the tyranny that
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upholds his bigotry and the positions that he wants to be reinforced which is
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the status quo of white male supremacist heterosexual hegemony but it's just for
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the kids dance for the kids it's just for the kids won't somebody think of the
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children Dan look at them they're allowed to look at a man wearing a dress
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that's lewd what what what's next uh some some sparkly eyeshadow oh yeah the
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government have to legislate makeup to can't do that yeah can't do that then
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what are you gonna wear your hair up now oh my god that's the devil's do oh yeah
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everyone every dude's got to be high and tight yeah we're gonna have to grow
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their hair out so no one's confused yep yep we can't have that oh also pink this
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is gone the singer gone the singer of the color the both oh no the singer is
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the color oh man so in this next clip so what's been going on is that miss
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Shannon is involved in Houston she's in Texas at least and so she's one of the
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people who's worked on figuring out that these people are sex offenders and what
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have you which is in this case I guess from everything I can tell I guess that
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what she did is okay in some ways because yeah well because what she did
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is she uncovered the failing of the Houston library system right so if she
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wanted to take this information that she'd found and demand that the Houston
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library system do a better job and actually do the things that are in their
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protocols to begin with that they failed to do great I mean like that is okay
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yeah but not it's it's not okay to then take this and use it to hold cloth I
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guess attack a group of people to commit this composition fallacy where these
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people are representative of the group as a whole right and then also to sort
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of encourage almost vigilantism like like because her example is being used
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as like we all need to be digging into all of these people that we disagree
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with and stuff like that so she's kind of discussing some of that and Alex
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wants to give her money and no law enforcement's not doing it don't a
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mother a grandmother's doing it and we're doing it unless you're supporting
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us is so critical supporting you I mean I want to talk to you about putting you
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in charge of a whole nation one operation because I don't have that much
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money but I've got enough money I think to bring down a couple hundred of these
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guys and we're coming after you which yeah coming after you great again that's
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gonna play well later yeah you know I I I guess the corollary for me would be
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somebody who saw a picture of a cop with his uniform off and he's got white
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nationalist tattoos on there right and so you report that shit but that doesn't
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mean that I think we need to hunt down every cop you know we need to
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investigate every single cop right the whole point is that there's a screening
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system although it's not really that the screening system should be that yeah
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good it should work it should work and when you find failings in that screening
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system it is important to point those things out because then you can improve
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the screening system and you that by thereby eliminate the problem that you
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ostensibly are upset about and if you don't focus on the things that can
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actually make a difference it does reveal that you don't actually care
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about the thing that you're presenting as caring about what you care about is
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attacking a group that's what you care about and and this is another situation
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what are what do you think happens what do you think the world looks like when
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you win mass resistance write down what it is you think the world looks like if
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you if you do whatever your style LGBT people in camps but they're reparative
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camps right there in camps where they are learning to be straight right yeah
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yeah absolutely about that but that's insane but it's wonderful because then
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they'll be able to enjoy a wonderful Christian society once they get outside
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right where everything will be great there will be all the streets will be
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clean 20 times as productive as neighboring country times as productive
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that are animists right right but of course we'll be declaring war on those
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countries for their animus believe yeah but we have to we're so productive
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absolutely we got it we can't allow them to waste their land that is a dime
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holding up a dollar and we can't allow it yeah no their their vision falls
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apart pretty quickly once you you think about whatever they would do if they
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could but again it's not all it's not all Christian people these people are
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using Christianity as a cudgel against groups and that's that's that's a
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specific behavior out of them so just to be clear on that lest we fall into the
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trap of demonizing a group while we're talking about the demonization of
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absolutely not no I would not say this lady is representative of 99% of the we
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weren't doing that but it's important to remind people who are listening yeah
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that they shouldn't fall into those those traps absolutely not but if
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they're a member of mass resistance they can go fuck themselves that's a whole
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different different subset yeah and they should probably keep their clothes on if
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they're running away from middle school after the police talk and I wouldn't
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even call them Christians they would they would so but so would Alex and he
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was just saying that we should hunt people down and kill them yeah so in
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this next clip we get a sense we don't get a sense they just literally say it
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that Alex and Tracy both believe that LGBT means pedophile these are some bold
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folks but from what I know about pedophiles they're they're they're
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fiends it's like a crackhead they can't stop going after children I think
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there's just no boundaries there's just no boundaries and there's some arrogance
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and and especially down here in Houston there's this attitude that you can't
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even scrutinize us and I think that applies to all of LGBT community and I'm
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not painting them with a broad brush yes yes community is now P they're
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supporting the pedophiles immediately after saying all of them are this thing
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right so Alex at the end says that LGBT means P which we know what he's talking
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about right and then she is saying that these people cannot be criticized in
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any way and I believe that that applies to the whole LGBT community which seems
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to apply that you think that this is a subsection of it so that's great yeah
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that's great because that really shows some cards of what she thinks she's
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working with and working against which is why this ostensibly okay thing which
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is doing the oversight that Houston's library system failed to do turns
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incredibly bad because your motivation is not fixing the holes in a system or
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or doing secondary checks or whatever what your interest in is is demonizing
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people in the LGBT community and that's that means that the directions you're
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going to go are gonna be fucked up as we already see she's allowing herself to be
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and she's probably thrilled to be doing it she's being used as a resource for
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Alex to do his is inspirational terrorism basically couldn't she just
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get like a hobby yeah you know like crocheting is great and I'm not trying
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to be like maybe she'd be a good carpenter maybe she should try whittling
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I've been thinking about getting into cross-stitch yeah see now that's a great
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idea maybe instead of demonizing the entire LGBTQ community and calling them
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pedophiles she could make a shelf yeah I'd be nice I'd probably get into
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Pilates if it weren't so goddamn expensive take up as much time I'm doing
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these classes but they're free with the membership at the gym slowly running out
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of free oh yeah once they're not free don't think I'll be doing them anymore
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I don't know how people afford it super expensive so anyway Tracy Shannon is a
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member of this mass resistance and she has been particularly involved in their
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work against the drag queen story hour in October 2018 she filed a lawsuit
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trying to get all these story hours stopped claiming that they violated the
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establishment clause that lawsuit that lawsuit was dismissed that lawsuit got
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dismissed so having failed to make any progress in the legal system it appears
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that she switched tactics and decided to walk into the realm of propaganda and
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smear campaigns judging by her Twitter account before she got involved with
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this hustle she was basically just an angry Trump fan tweeting out everything
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that's in line with me that media spheres narratives interestingly she
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seems to retweet almost everything Charlie Kirk tweets which is an
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impressive level of sad she's in love I was gonna dig in and try and find out
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more about her but after seeing this little glimpse and remembering that
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she's involved in a group that literally admitted on their own website that they
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make shit up to demonize the LGBT community I realized there wasn't much
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of a point looking into her more we kind of already got her we already know
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everything to know here we we don't know her but we know her yeah so as they
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continue talking Alex has some thoughts about Houston and their mayor in specific
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naturally don't worry Tracy the the cavalry's on the way thank you we can
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use it here and everywhere well have you noticed have you noticed oh your mayor
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isn't you know obviously this is a bad person he's probably been compromised I
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mean obviously more ways than one from what I know from law enforcement well
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I'm gonna stop right there people look at the Super Bowl I'm just gonna stop
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right there but oh yeah we know everything basically they know
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everything basically about what Sylvester Turner the mayor of Houston
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uh-huh I guess I don't know anything about it so Alex is implying that
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Sylvester Turner the mayor of Houston since 2016 is compromised and that's why
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he's supporting the drag queen story hours and the LGBT community in general
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in order to make his claim he brings up the 2017 Super Bowl which was held at
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the NRG Stadium in Houston there's a little scandal around that Super Bowl as
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Turner used taxpayer funds from the heat up from Houston first the city's tourism
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board to pay for himself and 16 guests to attend the game however that story
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was reported by Houston's ABC affiliate approximately a month after the Super
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Bowl so I'm not sure how that could be used to blackmail him that is just like
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a sort of a like a foible and you know it came out and did he have to like pay
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pay it back and all that stuff no I think that he and as I understand he was
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able to be like rationalize why these people got tickets and it was just sort
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of something people like that's malfeasance and he's like man and
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everyone moved along I think it's standard fair government corruption yeah
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I'm not for it I'm not for it but it's not enough I think that's the corruption
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where we're like yeah you're a scamp I think but you know what we're 50-50 on
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doing it ourselves if we had the chance I'm not ignoring it if I lived in Houston
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I might be more upset about it it's not grounds to make the argument that he as
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your piece of evidence that he's compromised in some way and we live in
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Chicago you think you think that he'll holds a candle that goes on here come
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on man so I have my suspicions that what Alex is really doing here is he's trying
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to attack the sincerity of a government official who's changed their position on
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LGBT issues in 2005 Turner voted against allowing gay and lesbian people from
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being foster parents in 2003 he voted to ban same-sex marriage as recently as
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2013 he quote voted against a proposal to gather statistics on bullying
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Institute's incidents based on sexual orientation and gender identity which
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was part of what got him a D rating from Equality Texas however he since changed
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his tomb and as of 2015 he has an a-plus rating from Equality Texas and has been
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a vocal advocate about supporting complete equality really yes that is a
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that's a win Turner has said quote I think many Americans if not most
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Americans have evolved over the last 10 years on LGBT issues and I include
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myself in that group people evolve and I think that's what we want people to do
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that's one explanation though a more cynical reading may be that in 2015 he
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was running for mayor whereas before he'd been a state representative with a
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27 year tenure whose position was far less vulnerable to having shitty
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positions so there might be a little bit of a cynical explanation for it or he
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might be sincere I'm not entirely sure whatever the case Alex can't allow the
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possibility to exist that someone was anti LGBT rights then learned more heard
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about the issues talked to people most affected by those positions and then
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decided to change their ideas and their positions that's threatening to his
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worldview so to assuage that fear he has to introduce the idea that anyone who
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comes around to supporting LGBT rights is most likely being blackmailed it's a
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really dumb idea but one that's low-key far more dangerous and insidious than it
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might first appear like that clip you could probably breeze past it the idea
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that he's probably compromised or whatever but what's behind it I really
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do believe is the fact that he changed his position on these issues yeah he's
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trying to inoculate his listeners from the idea that you can change the idea
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that you could listen and that would make you feel differently right instead
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it's because they're brainwashed or they're blackmailed or if you see this
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person who did yeah you're like well maybe there's something I should be
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listening maybe I should try instead you just replace that idea with no no no no
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no no this guy is not an example of someone learning more it's someone who
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is blackmailed it's weird yeah you know it's like I voted for this guy for you
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know over and over and over again to be a state representative and he was really
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anti gay and then he started talking to people and changed his opinion and I
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respect him so maybe I should try to talk to people and change my opinion no
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he was blackmailed okay then never mind I hate him now and I don't have to think
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about it ever again so you might be questioning kind of I mean not the that
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idea because it's stupid but you might be asking a little bit of like how does
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this blackmail conception work like what is Alex actually talking about what's
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this pipeline of of blackmail and thankfully I think he was just blackmailed
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by the NFL right no in this next clip Alex spells out what he thinks goes on
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and this is ludicrous so when they've taken thousands of hits of X taken all
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this ketamine these guys are just vessels for the Avatar and that's what
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our research shows that they're gone research so yeah he's describing gay
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people taking tons of X and ketamine and stuff like this especially people who
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are at the clubs yeah of course up and so then they become so whacked out from
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all of those drugs that they've taken that they're not even there they're a
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vessel for this entity this demon entity to come enter them right and that is
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what his research has shown so his research has shown that the LGBTQ
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community takes thousands of hits of ecstasy yeah in in what I would assume a
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short period of time yeah in order to become vessels not for demons yes now
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that only makes sense if you do accept that they died horribly from overdosing
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and then a demon actually implanted themselves in their bodies is why Alex
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like walking dead but it doesn't make any sense because you said that the gay
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part was because of the demon not so so are they not gay anymore after the
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demon takes over because the demon is them I'm not sure you know I don't know
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like who's who I don't know who is gay I don't know anymore is anybody this is
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after Alex has played a clip of the party monster guy so I think that that's
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what he's that's who we're thinking about yeah I think he's using some of
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those those ideas right or ideas about that guy to inform all of this stuff
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because he did take tons of drugs yeah no absolutely good on him I don't know
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about good on him but well for certain parts so at this point we have the
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conception that these people do all this X they become empty vessels demons come
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in and here's where it goes from there they're they're they're they're demon
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possessed cool and they want kids that's the energy and I'm telling you folks
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I've studied it's what they're into and then they get mayor's and other people
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corrupted and into it then they blackmail city officials and their
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armies of sex workers and then once they blackmail you then this is what they do
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and then they take control of your city and then they say well what do you want
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we want access to children so that's the that's what he thinks is going on there
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are a bunch of of LGBTQ people who are doing tons of X and they become demon
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possessed these demons want kids so they blackmail mayors and then the mayor's
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have to go along with it and they demand access to people's children there about
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a bing about a boom we end up with drag queen story hour so is this the demons
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plan I don't fucking know it's not real it's not real I'm just trying to figure
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out who's playing this is it's Alex imagine a bad plan yeah it's stupid we're
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preying on so in that case in his even in his own telling LGBTQ people are the
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victim of demons they're not bad people Alex is fine with that probably yeah but
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you'd still want him in a non demonizing camp or a DD minification we got a we
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got a protect well maybe all we need to do is just keep ecstasy out of people's
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hands maybe he just really wants a libertarian he's in favor of drugs
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well then he's in favor of demons yes that's it we figured it out so in this
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next clip Tracy I think shows too many cards and I hate people yep it's pretty
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close it's all inappropriate even if we didn't find a pedophile convicted
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pedophile this would be inappropriate it's we don't children do not have the
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job to validate adult choices adult behaviors and adult identities that
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that's their identities they need to get comfortable with it on their own and
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don't drag children into it you showed far too much of your hand when you said
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even if we didn't find any just right sex offenders then this would still be
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bad yeah no because the story that you're telling is about the sex
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offenders yeah that's what you're trying to make the point you're saying even if
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we didn't I would still be fucking furious about this yep second thing
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these drag queen story hours are not about validating these people's choices
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or lifestyles or identities through children what it is is about
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representation of people of different identities different lives the kids
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seeing these people and not thinking that they are something crazy some sort
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of boo radley entity to be afraid of and run past that sort of thing it is not
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about validating those people it is about helping the children not develop
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into being dicks here is what they are furious about representation human
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visibility putting on clothes and reading dr. Seuss to children right when
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you boil it down that's what's going on it's not representative you know for
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it's only representative because of your opposition to it if it weren't for the
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fact that LGBTQ people were so marginalized this would be nothing you
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wouldn't even care because it's just part of it's just another person telling
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a story right the only thing that's indicative of you being angry about this
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is that they are already and continually marginalized yes that's what's going on
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yeah and we're mad and all you're doing is fighting to maintain the status quo
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that existed before which is these people are invisible they don't believe
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they don't deserve to be seen in public yeah and if they are they should be
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treated with scorn and derision yep and any child who feels like you know they
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I might be I might be inclined in this direction should be taught to be ashamed
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of it and yeah you know probably hate themselves and commit suicide or will
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yell at them and then pretend that we tried to help yeah and what she's what
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she's literally saying is I don't care if anybody is a sex offender the only
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reason I investigated them was because I was already offended by them well I'm
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no I am actually stoked that we found a sex offender because now I get to she's
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excited that they found a sex offender the only reason I was looking into it at
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all is because I needed more ammunition for my shitty argument because the court
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threw out my original one exactly yeah exactly yeah that's bad so after she
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leaves Alex takes a turn for the dark this is not good this is a short clip
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but it's indicative of what's coming up this is it really fucked up drunk on the
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blood of children the Antichrist is
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Izzy and you look at these I mean if you saw people walking on the street you
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recoil there I can't make the faces they make as they're so demonic but it's just
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like a let me have time with your children now
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give me your children give them to me now you will give them to me or I'll
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call you racist I don't know what happened but it about this point in the
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show is where I think Alex really was like I'm going for it yeah I'm going for
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it yeah I've already said a bunch of horrible stuff I'm playing on borrowed
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time as it is yeah yeah you've got the I've got the sword of Damocles over my
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head in the form of multiple lawsuits I'm just gonna fucking swing for the
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fences six months and the whole thing is gonna be over anyway I'm gonna be as
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gross as I possibly can be right so there we go this is I mean he's using
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blood libel ideas drunk on the blood of our children that sort of thing this is
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classical anti-semitism whether or not it's directed towards people who are
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Jewish is still the same ideas that have been used to demonize Jewish people for
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centuries uh-huh and that we all we already know that's a part of his
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conception of the bad guys which isn't good now here's where Alex explains what
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he thinks the drag queen story hours are for because he believes that there is a
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it's it's not about literacy and acceptance and people seeing each other
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as people that sort of thing no no no no it serves a role and recruitment well
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not really okay that's that might be what mass resistance says okay Alex
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thinks it's something far worse that's an inductee right there he's talking
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about one of the sex offenders yeah Houston yeah he's an inductee that's
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Renfield a demon posing as a woman a woman that gives life that nurtures
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babies that was rare babies the last thing they see when they enter hell is
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men dressed as women have you the last thing they see is they're hacked up and
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torn into pieces and as their blood is that in the Bible lovingly glicked into
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the mouths and no men will stand against them and when the men watching this show
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stand before God God's gonna say I don't know you not how that goes
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because you wouldn't protect children from pedophiles dressed like clowns that's
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who wrangles your children into the trucks into the vans and they want your
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children not to run when they're in the disguises in the van pulls up they want
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to have already been at story time five or six times so they've learned to stop
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just long enough to be grabbed off that front yard because the kid didn't listen
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mom's asleep inside she worked two shifts and it's like you're in the van
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now bye-bye come on over here Georgie oh your boat I got your boat so he's
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descending deep into a it Pennywise fantasy I cannot tell you how funny it
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is I feel bad for that mom I'm gonna work two shifts struggling bad economy
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that's tough I don't know why you needed to include that as a detail in that
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fucking gross fantasy I mean she's you know you got a you got to represent a
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wide swath of the where's this deadbeat dad in the equation he went up to heaven
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and God was pissed off he was like you didn't even protect people from clowns I
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do not know you get on down there so watch out say hi to the two dudes
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wearing dresses when you get down there as you can see from Alex's conception he
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believes that the idea of this drag queen story time hour is in order to
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make kids not afraid of the people who are going to throw them in vans later
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which is fucked up that is so fucked up I mean because it's just the way of
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repurposing what it really is it's a it's a way of reframing the idea of
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acceptance and and embracing people and making it sinister which I guess is kind
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of what he does all the time but it's so over it's yeah and the correlation is so
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easy or the connection between reality and his lie are so easy to see that it's
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just it's it's so fucked up and then when you attach it to demonic ideas and
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the idea that they're only trying to prepare your kids to be kidnapped how
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else are you supposed to respond to it like you said earlier in the episode
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then like we have to stop them yeah obviously this woman from mass
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resistance this Tracy Shannon she tried to do it through the court system you
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can't do it they think it's not illegal for these people to do this thing what
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do you do you gotta do something gotta stop them you gotta do something well
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that's that's what they're that's what I was missing I I didn't realize so I
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thought that they were thinking you know like a preemptive attack before they
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hurt kids or anything like that they're actually saying that the reading itself
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is the attack well Alex so there yeah so just like doing that might also say that
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but I'm not gonna lump them in necessarily because they're right so
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they still think it's a defensive strike yeah yeah they're grooming they're
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grooming these children in order to be ready to be picked up in vans later
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right so yeah absolutely you you would get it in your head that it is defense
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it's an it yeah they're attacking us and it is not no so this next clips a little
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longer but it is what I would describe as absolute insanity I know that Alex is
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somewhat performing but also this is not like this is there's there's something
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that he's tapping into that is deep-seated within him and it's
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incredibly gross there's some blood-lively ideas in here too again but
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this is just absolutely ludicrous you didn't know that Stephen King is a good
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pal and he doesn't like President Trump and he doesn't like me wait he's your
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friend and he doesn't like write all those books about what goes on down
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there with the clowns the clowns that torture your children to death for a big
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fat spider see it the clowns just a angler fish it's just a finger of a
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spider it is not the name of the clown and it's since not it the clown a Georgie
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sit on my lap Georgie touch my beard Georgie and Georgie it's a free will
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universe stick your hand in this dark hole Georgie and I'm gonna show you that
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you'll float and they all tell you it's their religion they're gonna get them a
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vaccines they're gonna get a fluoride they're gonna get him a GMO they're
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gonna get him with a culture they're gonna get him on the iPhones all because
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they couldn't kill him before they were born or right when they were born but
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that's even better you see let a child grow a little have some love have some
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parents and be a good little person and then they can get them in a dark pit oh
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and then it's the energy these demons suck off your child it's so much better
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than just giving them cancer because you know the parents are there when the
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child's dying from the cancer from the vaccine and so they still have love it's
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just not as special but to have them in those dungeons all alone and then all
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the guys and clown outfits pull back when Dracula comes in and they're
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licking their lips and they're scared of Dracula a lot of them got abused by
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Dracula and but they're still hoping for a little bit of that blood and then
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Dracula goes in there and rips that child to pieces and drinks that blood
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and takes their guts and just eats it and then leaves and then the vampire
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minions just run and just lick the blood off the altar lick the blood off the
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altar and then Dracula's women come in all the porn stars all the sexy
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women that want to live forever and they come in and they just eat little pieces
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of their feet and arms they revel in the blood have sex in it and call for the
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end of humanity the end of God and just pray for Lucifer to enter their bodies
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and they're launching their full attack against you now so take your vaccines
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eat your GMO watch MSNBC watch senator Blumenthal their leader yes I see you
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Blumenthal I see you I'm not entirely sure what Blumenthal's involvement in
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this is except for he doesn't like Trump I was around and he you know he's out of
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New York and there's the sort of the abortion conversation going on there so
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I think that might be what he's relating that to but that's fucked up because I
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mean we're already in a situation where Alex is I mean really he's really
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targeting people here like I really hope nothing happens to Blumenthal but after
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something like that I don't know like he's doing this long extended diatribe
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about them wanting to take your kids and bleed them for sustenance and then
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Dracula eat pieces and like I and Blumenthal is their leader yeah there's
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an alternate universe where he is the single greatest trauma filmmaker in the
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history of America that shit is you really got into the narrative of it yeah
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but you know what if he made that into a movie I bet trauma fans would fucking
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love it yeah I mean that sure that was the plot of Manos the hands of fate
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right I don't remember I don't remember the plot of that thing so I mean that's
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that's really bad that is incredibly incredibly bad yeah it's gross it's it's
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laughably offensive about the people he's talking about yeah and really what
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I'm more interested in I'm less I'm less interested in like being like well what
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he's talking about here is right right we all know that there's like blood
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libel II aspects to that and Alex is just weird sort of the fantasies about
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demons around every corner and his inability or unwillingness to understand
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anything about fiction like it yeah the clown right which was I believe the full
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name of the the book right the movie was called it the clown yeah I'm less
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interested in that and I'm more interested in the real-world effects of
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this and that we get to see almost immediately when Alex starts taking
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calls here is a caller who starts off his call by talking about Democrats and
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how they're all criminals course and we'll see where this goes let's have fun
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and let's be honest why is the left so allied with criminals fun they are
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criminals and I think the reason they're so petrified of Trump is he's gonna he's
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attempting and will shut down a worldwide thousands year-long probably
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criminal enterprise I totally got all this mainstream news about the Islamic
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system the UN bringing in hundreds of thousands of sex slaves I mean it's just
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exploding the criminal activity it's been their way of life since before you
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and I were on the planet and now it's coming to an end and they're kicking and
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screaming and wiping species on the walls trying to do not gonna know what
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else to do it or not gonna be employable so this guy is expressing that there's a
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thousand year criminal operation that Democrats are in and they're afraid that
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Trump is gonna blow that up right this is an interesting idea and it'll come
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into play later Trump is finally taking down the Knights Templar perhaps about
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time but this caller after this they get into talking about the drag queen
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story-hour and he has some thoughts about it I bet they're great well Mike
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down for this oh boy that that doesn't bode well this is bad and then also
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listen to how Alex doesn't push back against his ideas that is very important
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to Alex playing his role as the inspirer of terrorism while keeping his own hands
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clean one thing you say that I like is you don't need orders from headquarters
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well a service of the civilian a parent or a legal guardian doesn't need the
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police in my eyes I've been a cop to go to the school and grab that drag queen
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and drag them out in the parking lot and dispose of them if you're in that school
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and you're in kids and somebody's not stopping it I should have the legal
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right to go in there and put you down and without repercussions well we're
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gonna run their plates we're gonna we're gonna follow the law we're gonna get
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him god bless you Doug he doesn't say how dare you you're at you have now on
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my show twice in two sentences or maybe even one run-on sentence said that you
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should have the legal right to murder these people because you disagree with
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their lifestyle with their identity however you want to frame it whatever it
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is this guy and I don't know if you caught that he's a cop he believes that
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was some good unison talking yeah he believes that he should be able to go in
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there drag them in the parking lot and kill them where did he say he was from I
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don't remember cuz that does seem like something that should be reported and he
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should definitely yeah he should be taken down it that's crazy very least
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at least no no no at very least Alex has a fucking responsibility to be like and
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he's like you know we're gonna run their plates and follow the law whatever no he
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has a responsibility to say absolutely not you do not have the right to kill
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people absolutes because you disagree with them but he can't because earlier
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in the show he said that they want to prepare your kids to be thrown in vans
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and they're gonna drink their blood and feast on their flesh right that sort of
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thing can't exist in a moderate world it can't exist in a place where what you're
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prescribing what you're advocating is let's follow the process and make sure
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that the library is actually going through with the background checks that
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they're supposed to be going through so we can make sure that whatever potential
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damage or whatever potential possible damage is mitigated because like these
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people like the Houston library also put out a statement that was like we fucked
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up you know all that stuff we didn't follow our own process but in that same
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statement like we already have in place whenever there's anything that has to do
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with kids any event with children nobody is left alone with children ever already
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yeah there were no complaints about any of these people there was no incident
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but we were not using that as like a way to say we didn't do anything wrong no
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absolutely not but there you know we have other safeguards in place but still
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but still they the conversation that Alex is having cannot involve the
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correct conversation it can only inspire people like this guy to feel entitled to
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murder people and I I think the same issue is occurring the whatever precinct
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he's working for doesn't have the screening is a former cop well whoever
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doesn't have a screening process in place to keep these people from being
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anywhere near law enforcement yeah I don't I don't or if they do that didn't
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go well I think there's an entirely also possible world where he's not really a
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cop and just says yeah that's entirely he's an Alex Jones caller yeah that's
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true the only thing that's sincere is his desire to kill people he wants to
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kill right god without consequences I think it would I think what should happen
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is I should be allowed to murder because somebody read a story to my kid while
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wearing that should be written into law that it's fine right yeah that's that's
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a that's a that's a tough precedent that might be that might be difficult to to
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slippery slope around yeah that would get unwieldy real fast yeah so whenever
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we talk about a lot of this stuff like you know we're taking it quite seriously
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throughout this episode the things that Alex is is putting into the world the
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the ideas the the rhetoric that he uses one of the reasons is because it exists
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with this this caller is being on the show is not a surprise to me now the
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caller expressing ideas like that is exactly what you would expect people who
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internalize and believe what Alex says to hear from what he's saying so
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whenever you are saying earlier in the episode when you hear this stuff how can
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you not think you should kill these people because they are going to only
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they're harming your children why wait until they actually do the thing that
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you're afraid of you because then they fucking damaged your child yeah why
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would you wait for that to happen you need to protect your child oh yeah you
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know I think whatever you say stuff like that I think that people could hear you
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making a leap that is inappropriate or something like that but it's not because
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all we have to do is get to the end of the episode when Alex takes calls from
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his listeners to hear them having that exact same thought but not being afraid
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of that thought yeah thinking it's the right thing to do yeah so what what I'm
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saying is this this is just the worst yeah and again it's stupid to point out
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hypocrisy but think if somebody called in to fucking our show and was like
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whenever you want it you know what when trans people hear that kind of rhetoric
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from somebody they should have every legal right to go and kill that person
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because the end result of his behavior and his language is going to be the
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murder and harassment and abuse of people in the LGBT community we so the
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attack has already been made it's only right for them to get murdered the law
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should recognize it we wouldn't accept that of course not we would if we have
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the right we would go insane if we took calls and someone did call in with a we
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would probably hang up on them and then spend 20 minutes discussing why that's
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not okay exactly just the responsible thing to do because if someone calls in
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your show and expresses something like that you have to recognize that that's a
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symptom of a major problem yeah and that problem is something that you have a
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responsibility to deal with because you are putting out the ideas into the world
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that's making people think things like this so you have a slight responsibility
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I believe to take a step back and have a bit of an educational moment where you
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can be like guys things have gotten a little bit out of hand people I know I
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said that they were drinking blood and I totally think that's true but we live in
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a civilized society and if somebody's drinking blood you can't just go around
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killing it's almost like a thing where you got to be like guys this is getting
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out of hand now I intentionally made it get it's why you can't do like why Alex
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can't do that yeah of course not and one of the reasons that I'm very afraid of
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the idea that someone's going to hurt one of these people or kill them at any
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of these storied hours is that we have a clear example here of someone thinking
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it's okay to express that on a radio show on a national radio show yeah the
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discourse is so toxic and so dangerous that that isn't an idea that Alex even
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pushes back against it's not like when he comes back from break he's like wow
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that caller said something pretty wild shit huh guys all right we're gonna move
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on it's just allowed to exist as something that isn't taboo it's not
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something that is beyond the line yeah and so the idea that someone might think
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like that so I think maybe I should do this it seems within the realm of
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possibility to me and if that does happen I do hope that Alex gets sued
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again like I know that when we started the show two years ago I very in I was
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very insistent about the idea that I think that Alex is you know he's on the
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right side of a lot of laws oh boy that has changed that is not the same I do
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think he still was on the right side of it years ago a while probably yeah he is
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not any longer man and that's and we know we know that hate crimes have
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risen steadily if not exponentially didn't see Candace Owens testimony says
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Trump and they feel so energized and excited that it's almost it's less
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possible and more fucking probable at this point that we're going to see a
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crime it feels a very real assault at least it feels that way yeah we can't
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predict the future it just seems rough it seems rough yeah so that same caller
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he you know he brought up earlier that there's this thousand-year criminal
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racket that the Democrats are running right that's right the Democrats have
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been running a thousand-year racket right well I guess it's the globalists
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whatever what were what did they call themselves a Jacobins that I think that
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was before the Jacobins even yeah yeah no shit Alex's stupid ideas about like
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where liberalism sprung from it's even more recent than a thousand years
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whatever I don't really care to engage with that I only think it's important
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because it is another it's a teaser you hear that sort of an idea and you're
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like oh this guy's into something fucked up it turns out he's into QAnon and so
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he brings up QAnon and it leads Alex to clarify his position on QAnon love it
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they remember this is the same guy who said that he should be able to shoot a
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drag queen who's at a reading at a library because he disagrees with them
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and he shouldn't be punished once again it is a not a surprise it's a person
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wearing clothes reading a book not a surprise that that sort of idea is
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expressed by someone who's into QAnon also not a surprise Alex changes his
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tune it is now into QAnon I'm not bragging about this one when Murphy or
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Blumenthal talk about me they visibly look like they're scared I like that I
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like that they should be scared man what the other say about Q he had a quote on
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there one time that said there'll be a time when it is not safe for these people to
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walk the streets anymore and I gotta tell you what they're doing with kids we
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know it let me say this about you I got manipulated by somebody close to me that
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I'd learned was bad the Q was bad there's some fake cues out there but the
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main Q is right and I made a whole apology about it because what they said
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about Muller starting to come through and I have to actually eat crow I just
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haven't figured out how to do it yet that a large part of it is accurate it's
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tough to eat crow all those bones so the the issue here is I think what he's
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saying is Corsi led him astray that's probably trying to blame Corsi that
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sounds right because Jerome Corsi was super into QAnon he was decoding all the
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messages and stuff like that he was writing a book about about QAnon and
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then Q started saying that Jerome Corsi was full of shit that Jerome Corsi
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turned on QAnon of course there was a whole whole nonsensical back and forth
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there and I think that Alex is referring to that or it's possible that it's Steve
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Puchenik those are the two possible people who led Alex to be against QAnon
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to be entirely sure cues well no he didn't know that there is multiple cues
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or something I don't know yeah I don't know if there are but this is Alex's way
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to be able to accept the bigger picture of QAnon without still being able to say
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like no I don't believe that yeah anything he disagrees with or is
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inconvenient for real Q right yeah yeah no that's exactly yeah absolutely and I
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suspect it's really more of a marketing ploy than anything else it's a clever
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little trick because it what it really means is you're saying absolutely
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nothing yeah you know I'm going to say that this I'm going to say the exact
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same shit that I did before yeah I'm only going to attribute certain things
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to Q and whenever I want to and then a caller can call in and say something
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stupid and I'll be like yeah that's the real Q but I think Alex also is probably
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signaling on so in some ways that he's come to a point where he realizes that
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there's a very real possibility that the QAnon audience is bigger than his yeah
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and he needs to get in some of that I don't know exactly because that's all
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that is said yeah like that's all he said that he needs to eat crow but he
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hasn't figured out how to do it yet so we can assume that that's forthcoming
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at some point that he'll do a big message about his exact position on Q
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and on and when that happens I'll look into it and we'll discuss it more in
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depth but as it is now I think there's some dangerous possibilities with this
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like the idea of that and Alex working in concert more than they have been up
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till this point could be fucked up it could lead to some some pretty dangerous
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trends but we have to see how it plays out at this point I really don't think
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that there's much to go on because it is just that clip yeah he's blaming Steve
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Pachannik or Corsi yeah for turning him against QAnon and now saying he's going
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to clarify later I don't know but I bummed out by this just on a personal
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level because it's weak but then secondarily because now I got a fucking
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look into QAnon I didn't want to do that I'm pretty stoked I still don't have to
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if Alex is teaming up oh yeah there's so much back research I've got it yeah I
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should probably familiarize myself I'm gonna have to go over I don't have to
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read books I want to read Corsi's book get a get a wiki I will say it'll be
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fine um so that when we know more we'll talk more but here's the interesting
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thing I wanted to go back and talk a little bit about what Alex used to say
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about QAnon as a little bit of a sort of refresher now we'll recall that in 2018
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on Christmas Eve Alex Jones was in studio and he told the world that he
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had told Roger Stone to get in touch with Julian Assange yes I do recall that
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and then he started throwing as hatchets at the that was fun yeah that was fun so
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that was that Christmas Eve an abusive boss is hilarious if we go back to the
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Christmas Eve prior Alex also got into studio and he had a message for the
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world I think we're happy and I have come into the office to stream this
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emergency transmission on YouTube and Facebook Facebook because if this
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doesn't get major attention and if this doesn't break through into the public's
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psyche the globalist have a decent chance of killing the president in the
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next two weeks and taking over the media really using the emergency alert system
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the Obama kill switch that's still in place to really bring this country into
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a civil emergency it's really martial law now in the last few months I have
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followed but never really spoken of QAnon or Q anonymous and a lot of what
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QAnon has said separately from my White House sources my Pentagon sources my CIA
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sources and folks know we have amazing sources so he brings it up to be like
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yeah they say some stuff that's real but even implied in there is is that there's
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you know it's whack yeah it's whack I got the real sources in this this next
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clip from that Christmas Eve show he brings up that you know because it
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started as the storm there was the storm the calm before the storm the storm is
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coming riders on the storm Alex literally says that he is the storm the
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storm is real it's called America coming back it's called info wars it's called
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electing Trump it's called fulfilling promises it's called sovereignty
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returning so he's making himself what the people who are listening to QAnon
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are actually talking about yeah we are what you're talking about we are the
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change that you want to see in the world with your piddly online QAnon bullshit
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and the reason that he was on that tip and the reason that he was sort of
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dismissive of QAnon is because at that point he is trying to push Zach his fake
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intelligence source that's right as the real QAnon and it's not taking off
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that's right I forgot about Zach people weren't interested in it Alex had this
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whole pageant that he played this radio drama where Zach came on and talked to
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him and then got taken in by the FBI yeah he told them that he's gonna talk
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to Alex and then he had to flee to Morocco it turns out he was actually
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just on family vacation or something along those lines and then Zach
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disappeared because the narrative didn't work out and I'm guessing that Zach just
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kind of got tired of playing this role for Alex whatever whatever he was doing
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this LARP yeah that he was doing just didn't work so Alex kind of amazing that
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they thought it had a chance I don't understand why conspiracy theorists like
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I think I let's let's let's think about conspiracy theorists who are they gonna
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go with as far as conspiracies QAnon or Zach I believe Zach was also spelled with
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a Q yeah okay that was intentional that's nice I like that ZAQ but yeah
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come on also Alex other times spelled at ZAK I'm not entirely sure it's more
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evidence that it's not a real person well actually Dax Shepard could have
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been yeah so Alex was mad that Zach was not as popular as QAnon doll and I
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believe that that's probably one of the main things that he had against QAnon is
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that he had his own version of it that he was trying to push and that it wasn't
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as popular which Zach anon was right there yeah it is it's right there but
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it's not look it's no longer anonymous his name is Zach so in this next clip he
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sort of expresses that resentment that his hoax is not as popular as the other
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one Zach usually says he is and here he is on the show and it's only got 44,000
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views man again some little comment about QAnon gets a million that's great
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this is this this guy's real this guy's known to us who he is there's TV
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programs with him in it his voice his face we've talked to him he's on he
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gives us this stuff exclusively and he's had to leave the country to give you
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this information this is the real QAnon which implies that the other one is the
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fake one yeah the QAnon that is QAnon is fake and Zach is the real shit so
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that's most of like what Alex's positions have been about QAnon on over
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the course of his being against it is Zach is the real thing let's get my
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revenue stream involved here yeah and it didn't work out so Zach disappeared and
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interesting that he experiences some of the feelings that I've definitely
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experienced where he's like Zach is real even though he's not but we only got
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44,000 views and I'm like man Infowars gets millions of views and we it's got
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to feel bad though those views are empty yeah that's true so the reason that I
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bring that back up is to show just a little bit of a only you know what is it
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a year in couple months year and a half ago or so that was the position and the
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official editorial position Alex had on QAnon I was it was anti yeah because
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Zach was the real one and Zach was in the house so we're back in Trump was
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mobbed up territory no to Oh similar trajectory yeah yeah I thought you meant
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timeline no no no absolutely not so I bring this up because after Alex has
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made this point to this caller that QAnon you know there's a good version of
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it and I'm into it and you know I got led astray by people I trusted he tries
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to bring Zach back into the proceedings he claims that he's on the phone but he
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never gets to him because I don't think he actually was let's go ahead I was
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about to go to Zach it looked like he just hung up so let's go ahead and talk
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to Grant in Iowa grant you're on the air go ahead show ends does not call back in
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I don't think Zach was on the phone I think that Alex was just trying to re
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introduce the idea that he had this guy who was his real QAnon right it refresh
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it into people's memories because even right before he goes to him on the phone
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earlier just a little bit earlier he had said oh we got Zach calling and he
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hasn't called in like three or four months yeah why hasn't he called in in
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three or four months it's a weird coincidence that the moment I say I
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think some QAnon is real I want to bring that back I want to bring my real weird
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yes weird so there's some angles being played and it might be a part of why he
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hasn't figured out how to eat crow yet is I haven't figured out how to work
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what I used to say about Zach into what my now my new position I'm interested to
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see where it develops but honestly I have no idea because Alex is now in Los
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Angeles and he's making a tour through all of the death squad podcast yeah
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going through he was on Sam Tripoli's podcast is cry which we won't listen to
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what are these guys doing nails on Joey Diaz is coming up apparently they just
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they just saw that Rogan's got a shit ton of downloads and they're like let's
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let's play this out and see when diminishing returns happens right and I
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think it they'll find out very quickly yeah so I'm not interested in any of
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those if he's back on Rogan we might listen to it but I'm not I don't have
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much interest in us doing an episode where he gets yelled at by Joey yes I
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kind of want to though I guess Joey Diaz can dial it up when he wants to in terms
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of fan service I might bite the bullet and go ahead and do that but I'm not
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interested in it I wasn't interested in this episode either except for as a
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message or I guess as something that is important to point out because a lot of
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the stuff is stuff we've seen before like rank transphobia anti-lgbt messaging
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the conflation of cross-dressing drag queen performance and trans folk that
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sort of stuff we see that horrible rhetoric pushed out into the world
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before but the directness of how much this is trying to get people hurt and
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then the caller calling in saying I should be able to kill these people if I
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want to with no consequences I think is a new level of demonstrable danger that
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Alex is perpetuating putting into the world so I think it's worth discussing
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for that and then no one would have let us get away with not talking about Alex
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QAnon yeah but it's such a small part of this episode like it could in the future
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turn out to be something major yeah like this could be the kernel of Alex
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pivoting some narratives and and that being his new direction yeah where we go
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one we go all nonsense he could but that's left to be seen this could be a
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small blip and it just be a marketing ploy on his part yeah in some way to tap
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into a fertile market that he feels he doesn't have access to we'll see on that
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yeah but what's not upped for debate is how dangerous the rhetoric that he's
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putting out these Avi the drag queen story our stuff is yeah and none of this
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at all as a reminder none of this is in any way supporting or defending those
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two individuals who were sex offenders who were involved in the drag queen
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story ours that is them and a failure of oversight that is all that is they are
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not indicative of the group as a whole I I really appreciate doing this because
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it is I think I think it's really important to keep this in front of our
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faces and in front of as many faces as possible because there would be there is
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a an absolute instinct of like well we already know how he feels about trans
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people right we don't even need to we don't even need to talk about it because
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everybody already knows yeah but I think it's really important to keep it coming
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back up just so you're always confronted with the reality of what people are
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saying well especially as the LG is escalated yeah exactly because this is
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an escalation yeah like I've heard him say that these people are demons and
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stuff but maybe not in such an ugly way we've never never really seen it be so
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clearly so violent justifying of violence yeah and so that does but that
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does mark a very serious escalation and I think that this could I think that
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there is the basis of a lawsuit no matter what happens but if something bad
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happens I think there's the basis of a very serious lawsuit that Alex could
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have put himself into the hopper for this is so hateful yeah it's awful we've
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reached the end of this and thank you all for listening we'll be back on
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times absolutely um but bloom and fall bloom and fall
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though that is that he is the leader of the Dracula demons who are going to
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drink everyone's blood trauma at this point I see no evidence that he's ever
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killed anybody but technically one guy who probably has technically on a
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probable basis technically Alex Jones Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks
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for holding so Alex I'm a person color I'm a huge fan I love your work I love
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you
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