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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Hi.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Have you ever been in trouble for being late to work?

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Yeah.

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Hahahaha.

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Stupid question.

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No, no, no, I mean like not have you been late to work, I mean like gotten in big trouble for it.

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Yeah, I've been fired for it.

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You've been fired for being late to work?

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Well, like habitually.

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Hahahaha.

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Through my...

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I thought like, I'm talking like a one off thing.

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I can't think of any like extreme examples, but from my let's say 16 to 25 year old days, like that stretch of time.

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Yeah, that decade.

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I had a lot of jobs. I worked a lot of places, and yeah, I was not a good employee. I worked hard, but also I just, I hated, I hated almost every place I ended up at.

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Except for that movie theater, I loved that.

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Yeah.

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That was a great stretch of time.

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You loved it so much you got hired and fired there multiple times.

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Yeah, that was the best job of my life in terms of like, you know, hourly wages and stuff like that, but I worked at a fucking car wash for a while.

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You worked at a car wash?

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Yeah, I had a bit about it that was just based on the whole idea of like, it's nothing like the song.

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I built a bit just to say that line.

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Yeah, I used to work at this terrible car wash that my buddy Fox got me a job at. It was so bad. I just got screamed at by people all day.

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Do you, like washing cars?

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Yeah, just got screamed at by the coworkers. They were all on coke. It was a terrible, terrible scene.

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There were coked up car washers?

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Oh yeah, it was horrible.

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Is that a thing?

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It was horrible. And then you'd get tipped by the people, because I was on the end of it.

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So like, there's like three main stations. There's the like people at the beginning of it who start to wash it.

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Right.

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Then it goes in where it gets sprayed down and everything like that.

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Uh huh.

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And then it comes out and the third station is like drying off and polishing and stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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That's where I was. And because that is a customer facing position, you know, you hand the car back to the customer and at that point they give you a tip.

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They do?

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And it was always humiliating.

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Well, a lot of the time, no.

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Yeah, I was going to say.

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But it's customary to tip at that point.

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Okay.

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And one time a dude in a suit flicked a quarter at me.

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That deserves an ass beating.

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I threw it back at him.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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He's like, how do you, how dare you?

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Fuck you.

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How dare you? It was so bad. That was the worst fucking, I mean, I was only, I only worked there for like a month or so, maybe even less than that, but it was still a terrible time.

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Yeah. What was that guy thinking? Like a homeless guy would have done this for a quarter. Why did I have to pay for this?

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My favorite thing.

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Fuck that guy.

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And this might be too long of a story to tell in our intro for the episode.

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No, keep it going.

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But one time there was a suspected change thief, you know, stealing change out of people's cars.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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And everyone who worked there knew that this dude was straight up stealing change.

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Everyone knew it. He was a grief. He was a weirdo.

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And so a customer complained about it to the manager, who was one of the people who was doing a ton of coke there.

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Right, right, right, right.

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And he was like, all right, here's what we're going to do.

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We're going to do a sting operation.

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We're going to do a sting.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So he put specific change in a dummy car that went through the car wash.

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And there was the paintball explosion that would happen?

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No, he had like the dates of the quarters and stuff like that all set up.

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He's like, if this change is missing, we'll look in his pockets, and if those specific coins are in his pocket, we'll know that he stole the change.

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That is a great coke idea.

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Right.

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So he goes through with it.

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Lo and behold, change is gone on the other side.

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What?

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He demands this kid like show what's in his pockets, that change, along with some other changes in there.

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Yeah.

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But because there's other change in there, he's like, the manager's like, this doesn't prove anything.

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I was like, wait, but he had the change in there.

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He did, but he had other change too.

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No, but that proved everything.

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Could be a coincidence.

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It's not possible.

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So I was like 17, 18, 19-ish years old, and I was sitting there and I was like, I got to do better than this.

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I got to get out of here.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, bad times.

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I don't know if that was a story about being late necessarily.

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I was never on time for that job though.

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We can get back.

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Well, there we go.

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It's a full circle.

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This is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.

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And I don't know only about what you tell me.

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That's correct.

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Jordan, today we're back in 2009.

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We have an interesting development to go over here on the show.

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What's that?

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Well, we all know that on our last 2009 episode, we experienced Alex Jones starting to go hard at George Soros.

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Right, because he just found out Princess Di had, well, died.

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Yeah, he's late with the news.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He demeans Soros in ways that he had never before.

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He gives him ownership of so many nefarious plots.

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He brings them up like 50 plus times.

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It was wild.

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So now, today, that episode covered April 8th.

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Today, we're going over April 9th and 10th and we'll see what happens with that, see how that thread continues.

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But before we get to that, got to give a shout out to a couple of new sponsors.

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New donors.

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Listeners out there who are supporting the show and we appreciate it oh so very much.

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First of all, I'd like to say thank you to Kevin K. You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Kevin.

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Thank you very much, Kevin.

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Next, Tyler, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Tyler.

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Thank you very much, Tyler.

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Also, Stephanie.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Stephanie.

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Thank you, Stephanie.

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Next, Richard.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Richard.

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I'm wondering how many different intonations you can try and put onto it.

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You are mixing it up, yeah, yeah, no, you're doing great.

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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who joined up and is supporting the

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show on a little bit of an elevated level, and this is very exciting, I have to say.

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I'd like to say thank you to the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much, John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation.

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Yes, it is, this is a surprising way to learn that we received a MacArthur Genius Grant,

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but, but it is, and apparently they've gotten a lot stingier over the years, but that's

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fine, that's fine.

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It's a little bit less than, uh, than, uh, you know, uh, other people have got.

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Reggie Watts has gotten, yeah, we got, we got way less, uh, advanced notice as well.

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David Foster Wallace got a little more than us from the McArthurs, but we'll take what

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we can get.

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Thank you very much.

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We're happy to, we're happy to be, uh, associated with those brilliant minds.

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Uh, and thank you.

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Please do.

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So Jordan, here we are on April 9th, hot off the heels of Alex Jones, uh, taking a, taking

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a pool cue to George Soros, um, and, uh, we, we come in and on April 9th, Alex Jones starts

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the show talking about goddamn chemtrails for about the first 40 minutes of the show.

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All right.

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I am not interested.

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Soros, Soros chemtrails.

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Nope.

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Not a mention of Soros.

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Not a mention of Soros.

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Just who's doing the chemtrails.

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You know what it is?

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Remember how I mentioned that, uh, on April 8th, he went into overdrive and that collar

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got really, uh, like, Hey, I support you.

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Oh, that was about chemtrails.

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You bet.

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Gotcha.

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So now he's got to overcompensate and try and I think so, but at the same time in doing

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so on this April 9th episode, he's letting his Soros narrative completely slip favoring

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instead to do a petty squabble or self-defense against a valid criticism from, uh, one of

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his listeners.

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Right.

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Um, and so he complains about chemtrails in a way that does not do it for me.

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And I'm not interested in talking about for the first 40 minutes of the episode, but the

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first clip we will hear Alex make some incredibly untrue predictions about his future.

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The minute July 4th is done and the new Obama films released, I will launch immediately

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in two months, give myself three months to take a few weeks, have a mass produced, mastered

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and shipped.

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Cause this time I had the DVDs come in for Obama deception.

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The day it was released or actually came in some on the Friday before and then some on

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the Monday, the 16th.

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And then we had to get caught up, took us about a week to get caught up shipping.

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Uh, this time take this next Obama film.

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We're going to have it done, let me think, April, May, we're gonna have it done the first

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week of June, a week and a half, two weeks before it's even released.

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And here's a little secret.

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We're going to have everything packed and ready to ship for people that have purchased

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it sitting in there and we're going to start shipping it three days before the official

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release date.

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So you literally get it, UPS on average takes three days, some places four days in the U

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S you will get it on the release date.

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That's what we're doing.

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Same thing with this film.

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As soon as the chemtrails, we don't have time to screw around.

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Who knows how long there'll be an internet, who knows how long we're going to be there

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openly announcing they're getting ready to shut down the web and they don't cut it up,

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reduce the whole thing.

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So we are just intensifying what we're doing on every front, but we don't have the money

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or the personnel.

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So fund us by buying the Obama deception and end game and truth rising and fabled enemies

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and everything.

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And, um, interesting little ad pivot there, but it's an ad pivot towards the products

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and services that he's offering back in 2009.

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Interesting.

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It's very familiar.

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It has a, it has that same feel to it.

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Um, but what he's talking about there is that like he's making the second Obama film.

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It's going to be done on the 4th of July and you will have it on the release date.

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It does not come out on the 4th of July comes out a bit later, but he's also saying the

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day he's done with the Obama film, he's going to start a new documentary about chemtrails.

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And I will say this, that never got made.

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That never got made.

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No, I wonder why not.

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This next Obama film is the last documentary Alex has ever made.

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That I believe that's the case.

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I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure.

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I mean, no, cause there was that one with Joel Skousen, the, uh, the interview about

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strategic relocation is technically a documentary.

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Although Jason Burmas, one of Alex's associates does end up making a chemtrails film, uh,

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called, uh, what the hell are they spraying?

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So maybe Alex was like, good enough, good enough with someone I know made one.

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I know what you sprayed last summer is actually, I felt like he was just, have you ever had

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that, uh, uh, change con pulled on you where somebody's like, no, that one's not so much

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a con as it is a straight up that no, the con where they're like, okay, uh, all I've

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got is 10 bucks.

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So you give me five.

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That's not the right change.

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You give me the, I'll give you these $4 and try and confuse you with, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That was what he just did with the release date.

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He's like, it's going to be out maybe two months.

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Well, the first week of June shipping, but also for some places, but sometimes, and then

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we'll dial back and there might be another day.

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I think he's sincere in his intentions though.

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I think I agree.

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I think he thinks that's going to happen, uh, but none of that happens.

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It's crazy to hear him to like have all this, this is what's going to happen.

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And we know now none of that should happen.

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So that was kind of a little bit of an ad pivot too.

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Uh, but in this next clip that happens almost immediately after he does what I would describe

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as like a modern day kind of ad pivot.

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I'll just stay home.

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I'll stay here.

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I'm not leaving.

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I'm not even caught up at this place and I'm not even leaving.

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I'm going to hire the people I'm going to get it done because we don't have time to

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wait anymore.

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Hell is coming down on us now.

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We need your financial support.

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That's how you support us.

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Go buy the books and videos and info.

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The long pause now that, that the, the intense expression of like, ah, I'm going to get people

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riled up long pause pivot to the ad.

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That is that present day level Alex Jones ad pivot and we have not seen much of that

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in the, in this era.

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I would say the pause was a little bit long.

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It's a, he's like a, he's like a full just learning how to use its legs.

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Like eventually that that is going to turn into, we're all going down now.

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What we need to do is have you fund our products instead of him being like, and now I should

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give you an ad.

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It's interesting to see, but I mean we have seen sort of shades of it before, so I don't

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think it, I don't think it means anything in terms of the timeline.

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I think we're just seeing the evolution of it.

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We're seeing the like a, the salesmanship get better as maybe he directs himself more

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towards being a sales operation as opposed to pretending to be a journalist of some sort.

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Right, right, right, right.

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I think that's kind of interesting and we'll see where that goes.

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So in terms of actual narratives, I'm telling you, man, it is 90% chemtrails and I got no

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interest in it.

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90% chemtrails.

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Now, secondly, he has an interview with this guy named Captain Sweeney.

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That sounds promising.

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Now I should tell you, I doubt he's a captain.

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I don't even think his name is Sweeney.

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He is.

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He's a legit dude.

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He's a sea captain.

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So in early April 2009, that's when a captain Phillips got taken by the Somali pirates.

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Okay, so he's just got a different captain.

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This captain knows the guy who took over the vessel after captain Phillips got taken by

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the pirates.

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Okay.

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So he knows that guy.

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Does he also know Kevin Bacon?

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He must.

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It is a straightforward, no nonsense kind of interview, so we don't need to listen to

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it.

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Really?

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Yep.

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I listen to it and I'm like, huh, this is pretty, this is okay.

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It's kind of just a conversation about like the dangers of sea piracy.

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This captain.

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I mean, this guy.

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That sounds kind of fun.

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This captain Sweeney is kind of trying to make himself part of the story.

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Oh.

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A little bit.

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A little.

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A little bit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He wants to be part of the story.

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It kept talking about how he knows the guy who's there.

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Yeah.

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That's fine.

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I'm not mad at him.

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It is what it is.

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It's a way of presenting the information.

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And I don't, in this instance, I don't think there was anything wild.

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They're not coming up with crazy narratives about it or anything like that.

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It's just like, wow, this is an interesting story.

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And I agree.

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Interesting story.

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Almost no take on it.

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So we're just going to skip that.

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I have a quick question.

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Not about that.

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Gotta be really fucking quick.

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Yeah.

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Is he, so is he, he's like a private Fisher.

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He's like a private sea captain.

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Yeah, I believe so.

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So if you just have a boat, you can call yourself captain.

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Is that how that works?

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Like he's not an, he's not associated with the military in any way or the Navy or anything

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like that.

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He was in the service at some point.

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Was he a captain in the service?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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He's not very clear on that.

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I just want to know if I get a boat, can I just call myself captain and have people announce

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me as such?

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Yes.

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But I also don't think that you can then be contracted to do like runs and stuff like

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that.

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Gotcha.

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So he was actually like a licensed like commercial sea captain.

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Gotcha.

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You know, it, it, there is a line.

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Okay.

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He is above that line.

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Okay.

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I know that much.

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Whatever line there is, that man's a captain.

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So after he talks to Sweeney, he gets Tyler Palmer in studio and that's his Ecolablu sponsor,

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the water filtration guy who has a, uh, Tatooine, uh, school bus filter, a school bus size water

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filter.

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We're all going to wish we had them.

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Um, and in the middle of them talking about their water filters and how great they are

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and all that stuff, just doing an infomercial.

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Yeah.

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Alex remembers that somebody on air America was talking shit about him.

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And this tickled me to no end because I, you're, you're going to be so excited to find out

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who this is on air America.

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Who's been talking shit about Alex.

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Is it Mark Marin?

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No.

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Yeah.

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And again, they don't want you to have guns.

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They don't want you to be self-sufficient.

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They don't want you to live in the countryside.

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They want to take your children, put them on Prozac, have their way with them because

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they are degenerate scum.

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They are rapists.

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They want to rape your freedom, rape your liberty.

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By the way, John Harmon, did I send you that clip?

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Uh, in fact, I know I sent it to you last night cause I gave you the time code.

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There's so much cussing in the piece.

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Uh, Jonathan network, do you have the clip I sent you?

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The guy saying, write me.

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Uh oh.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So the cussing is cut out.

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Let's play part of the right thing right now.

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This is what, this is what they put out.

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Now now this is the, this is their video blog, but there's other hosts are saying similar

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things on shows carried by air America that I've done nothing to.

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Now now this is what George Soros funded people have to say about me.

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You know what?

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I wish he was being right.

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The biggest fear, these people's biggest fear is, is that no one gives a crap about them.

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Hey John, John, John, John, I know you edited it, but, but, but can you play the clip?

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He's playing the clip of me saying, I don't want to be forced to thumb scan to buy and

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sell.

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I feel like I'm being raped.

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I tell the state police and then they arrest me.

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So, so he understand he's cutting from that.

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I'm not going to give the guy's name.

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I'm going to give him attention.

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I'm going to give this scum what they want, but he's accusing me of making this white

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supremacist that hated me and was attacking me.

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The media knew that Lydon said that I made the guy kill the cops.

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Now they've been forced to retract Pittsburgh Post Gazette, two separate retractions and

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articles.

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Not really a daily causes retracted, raw stories, retracted.

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Others are retracted.

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This guy doesn't care.

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He comes out and calls for me to be right for me to be sodomized.

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I mean, this is what this guy would love to have me in a prison camp and he goes on for

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10 minutes.

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The most vicious stuff I've ever heard.

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And this is the loving liberal.

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They're so angry.

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They got guns.

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They're so angry.

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They can't do what Joe Stalin did that the globalist funded.

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Don't call him Joe.

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Alex is so mad at Mark Marin.

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Never did I imagine in my wildest dreams that Marin would come up on an episode of Alex

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Joe.

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I don't know.

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The moment I remember that, no, cause he brought up Air America one time whenever he was blaming

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Soros about it.

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And I was like, oh, I remember Mark Marin used to work there.

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And I want to say that's the only Soros mention on this show.

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Okay.

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Well actually there's two, but they're both in the context of him owning Air America or

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running Air America or whatever, which is not accurate.

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I would be highly surprised if Marin ever got any George Soros money considering him

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and Sam Cedar were doing a show out of the break room at Air America.

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No, come on.

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So I would say that Alex is a little bit uptight here.

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He's being a little bit, um, a little bit of a snowflake about this.

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No, no, he's not a snowflake, Dan.

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It's all you SJWs who are snowflakes.

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You're the ones who don't want us to have guns.

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And that's why you're so angry and we don't ever get angry at things that you say, but

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every time we say something, I think it's a far stretch for Alex to be saying that Marin

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is calling for him to be raped whenever.

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What Marin is really saying is essentially like, this guy is really over-exaggerating

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his victimhood.

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That's what he's saying with that maybe off-color joke a little bit or, you know, it's 2009,

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you can get away with a lot more.

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It's pre-WTF Marc Maron who is in a depth of depression and anger.

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It's about to be Marc Maron, it's about to be WTF with Marc Maron because he's about

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to get fired very shortly.

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He's about to start stealing their equipment.

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So yeah, it's interesting that Alex lacks any context or...

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It's willful though.

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He just wants to say that that's what Marc Maron is saying as opposed to dealing with

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the like, oh, he's accusing me of exaggerating my victim status and what have you.

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So he's responding to this and he's got Tyler Palmer just sitting there hanging out.

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He's like, I paid for this time to come on and pimp my water filters and you're just

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getting mad at this fucking junior varsity guy on Air America.

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I don't know what's going on here, but Alex decides he's got to break down the entire

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clip of Maron.

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And Tyler Palmer is still just sitting right there.

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He's on hold, yeah.

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Oh, he's on hold.

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He's not sitting there.

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Okay.

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But actually, see, when I heard this come up, I thought it was going to be an angry

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screed on Maron's part.

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I thought it was going to be some nonsense and I wasn't going to be able to come down

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on either side.

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But actually, Mark Maron is incredibly insightful about the people like Alex Jones.

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Yeah.

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And in his first clip, he basically is trying to express that Alex Jones and his ilk, they

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fear the idea that they are insignificant.

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And then Alex proves his point for him.

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Now go ahead and play this piece of filth.

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You know what?

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I wish he was being right there.

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You know what these people's biggest fear is, is that no one gives a shit about them.

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Their biggest fear is insignificance.

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Their biggest fear is that they really aren't bad.

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Stop right there.

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See, they always want to make us feel like we're not important.

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The people don't have power.

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We can't affect change.

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What am I always telling you?

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You have amazing power.

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You have incredible power.

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There are incredible things you can do.

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You can move mountains.

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So that's his overcompensation and his idea that, like, no, Maron wants you to feel insignificant.

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No, no.

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He wants you, Alex, to feel...

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He wants you to recognize that you fear the idea of being insignificant.

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Not that you actually are.

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But what motivates you in so much of the defensiveness and victim posturing is the idea without it

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you aren't anything.

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Without the presentation of they're coming to get my guns, what are you?

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Exactly.

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Nothing.

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So without the charade, the silhouettes of globalists coming to attack you, you cease

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to have any purpose.

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You cease to have any meaning.

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And Alex proves his point by shifting it onto he's attacking you, my audience, and all that.

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So that, I thought, was prescient on Maron's part.

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But this next clip, I will say, is almost a psychic-level prediction that Maron ends

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up making.

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When I heard this, I was kind of blown away based on what we know from 2018 and 2019.

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You're coming after us.

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And you then get mad at us when we stand up to you, you little bully.

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You're not gonna get to rape me, pervert.

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Do you understand, punk?

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Go ahead and try it with your SWAT team.

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You're not getting away with it, cockroach.

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Now play the punk.

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Their biggest fear is that they really aren't that important.

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Their biggest fear is that no one's going to recognize them.

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Hit pause again.

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Your biggest fear is you don't get to run things and run our lives, you parasite.

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Your biggest fear is we're figuring out how much power we got, punk.

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Go back to him.

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These are all distinct and dangerous cries for help from poorly parented dicks who seek

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to harm and hurt in the name of dicks to make themselves-

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Hold on, hold on a minute, but this guy wants to rape me.

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Not doing it.

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To make themselves known to people.

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They're misguided, and when they are charismatic, like someone like Glenn Beck or somebody like

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Alex Jones, and they're exploiting the damage of people who live in this world who are desperate,

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angry, and misguided, that they become dangerous, populist leaders.

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They are the criminals.

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If the FEMA camps are for anybody, it's for what these people will do when they think

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the end of the world is here.

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There is a way to fight this stuff.

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There is a way to deal with it.

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No, there you go.

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That's enough of the punk.

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I'm going to play a name.

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Of course, cut it off when he starts talking about the solution to your propaganda.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Nobody listen to this next part.

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Nobody.

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Yeah.

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But that part where you're saying that if FEMA camps are real, they will be what these

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people use whenever they think the end of the world is coming.

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What Marin's expressing with the end of the world thing is essentially they will use these

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sorts of tactics whenever they feel threatened, and that's what you're seeing expressed by

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their fears of it being done to them when it's not being done to them.

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When their fear of being insignificant comes true.

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Which when we now see, or whenever they have the sort of cover to do it, which we now see

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in late 2018 into 2019 with Alex's complete flipping on his position about Rex 84, his

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opening up to the idea of FEMA camps for immigrants and asylum seekers and stuff like that.

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Marin was 100% right on.

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If FEMA camps exist, it's for them to use.

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It's crazy.

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When I heard that, I was like, Oh, God damn, yeah, that's, that's solid.

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Yeah.

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Good work, Marin.

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Yep.

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So time travel.

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High five, I guess.

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Yeah.

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I hope you go on to do something.

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Unlock those gates.

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You were very wise at this point in your career.

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So that's interesting.

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I think that was really about all that I found interesting in this episode because the rest

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of it is dog shit.

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He sits down with George Humphrey, but Alex even explains at the beginning of the interview

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they're like, I'm having George Humphrey come in because we didn't get some stuff we needed

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for his interview on the documentary.

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So he's just there to have him say some lines and it's really, it's really terrible.

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He's talking about how he goes to a coffee shop and a third of them are Democrats, a

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third are Republicans and a third are independents and they're starting to turn on Obama.

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And then there's a horse at the bar or something.

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How do you, how do you take a poll of everybody at this coffee shop?

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What are you talking about?

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It's just complete horse shit.

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And how is it so evenly distributed?

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Where is this?

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Is this like the five corners of the state where you can stand in all the states?

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What?

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And it's such a precursor to like, you know, Jacob Wall, that dude, he would constantly

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tweet about being at a coffee shop and overhearing liberals say like, oh, Trump's got some good

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ideas and stuff like that.

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Sure.

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It was a sort of like a formula of a lot of his tweets and it's interesting to see George

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Humphrey doing the exact same thing in 2009.

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He's just this washed over bullshit about like, hey, I'm out there and I'm hearing unspecific

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anecdotal people who definitely exist are turning on Obama.

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Like, all right, man, whatever.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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How about you go predict some trends with your buddy?

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Yeah.

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I don't know if you know Cilenti, but then Alex has an interview with Rosalind Peterson,

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who is a chemtrail expert lady.

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And I don't care about their interview.

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It's real stupid.

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And a couple of years after this interview, Rosalind did an interview where she said,

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I literally have no evidence of chemtrails.

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I have no documents, nothing.

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Just whatever my weird suspicions are.

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Oh, so.

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Well, that's nice that she's honest about it.

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If that's a couple of years after this interview, I know that she didn't have any of that two

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years prior or whatever.

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Maybe she lost it all.

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Please.

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No, no, no.

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She had it.

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There is a whirlwind.

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As soon as I found that interview from after this that she said, I don't have any evidence

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of this, I was like, well, we're not listening to your interview with Alex then, because

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it's bullshit.

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I'm not so interested in this chemtrail nonsense.

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So we jump off the ninth and we get to the tenth.

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And this is to me one of the most interesting things I've ever experienced on Alex's show.

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So we saw on the eighth, he's talking about Soros a whole bunch.

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The worst.

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The ninth, it's almost like he's forgotten that he's supposed to be talking about Soros.

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There are a bunch of chemtrails out there.

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Barely remembers that he hates him.

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Which brings him up a couple of times when he's complaining about Marc Maron getting

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paid by him, I guess.

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Sure.

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Not very well by him.

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And also the Somali pirate stuff is in play.

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Captain Sweeney Todd of the Demon Barber.

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Sure.

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But on the ninth, the pirate stuff is pretty on above board.

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It's pretty normal.

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Oh, shit.

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Are we going to get Soros funded pirates?

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No.

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OK.

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But that would be a great musical.

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It could be.

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But the change that happens on the tenth.

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You could knock me over with a feather after I heard this.

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Whatever you say about the Somalis, ladies and gentlemen, they certainly are bold compared

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to the gelded, domesticated Westerners.

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What?

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I mean, they're coming out in ragtag ships to basically do battle with all their different

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stolen ships, like something out of a Hollywood fantasy movie, something out of Waterworld

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to have a battle with the U.S. Navy.

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This is just people are unbelievable.

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Look how they ran off the Delta Force and the Army Rangers in Somalia.

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Wow.

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Alex, he's coming out pro Somali pirate.

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That is a controversial stance.

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I did not hear a lot of that take coming out of Fox News at the time.

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That is a crazy pivot.

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I don't understand.

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You got to give it up to these pirates.

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No, you don't.

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You got to give.

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Hey, you absolutely got to give it up to the pirates.

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No, these.

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And let me tell you something.

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These terrorists, they're pretty tough dudes, too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They're not.

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They're not bad guys.

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And those S.S. agents, you got to give them got to give it to them.

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They had stick to it.

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If they're super efficient, you got to give it that.

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So when I when I heard that, I was like, holy shit, like I heard a lot of Alex's like weird

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position that he's taken over the years.

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But pro Somali pirate, look at how they kicked out the Navy Rangers and all those guys.

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Somali knows what's up.

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That was nuts to me.

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And then I thought, like, OK, that's probably just weird phrasing.

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It's probably just a straight up.

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Is this whole episode is going to be pro pirate?

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This next clip certainly is.

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Did he just watch Hook?

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And then some white supremacists because he is freaked out.

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This is in relation to the Pittsburgh shooter that he's still mad he's being blamed for.

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Now there are Somali pirates fighting white supremacist pirates?

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No.

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I would love that musical.

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This is him just being self-defensive about the Pittsburgh shooting and the relation to

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him.

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Knowing they're coming for guns and because he's living with mommy and lost his job and

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freaked out.

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That's 90 percent of it, but 10 percent of it is because he knows they're coming for

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guns.

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He's just sick alive and sick of it all.

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So real quick, you can even hear in there that he is defending the Pittsburgh shooter

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because he says he knows they're coming for the guns, not that he was acting out of paranoia

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that Alex had instilled in him through his constant exposure to these narratives.

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So he knows that they're coming for the guns.

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It's something we already covered when we talked about this more in depth.

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Alex is dealing with this as like it was a rational decision to kill those cops.

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For sure.

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He knows they're coming for the guns.

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You gotta kill him.

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So that's fucked up.

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I don't understand why he thinks a defense of his shit is like, no, no, no, I didn't

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make that guy kill that guy.

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I made him one tenth kill that guy instead of nine tenths kill him.

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Right.

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Right.

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Like it's only one tenth my fault.

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It's a strange position.

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That still means you're involved.

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Yeah.

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So that's bad.

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That's bad.

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Yeah.

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Certainly.

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But where this clip goes.

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He lost his job and freaked out.

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That's 90 percent of it, but 10 percent of it is because he knows they're coming for

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guns.

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He's just sick alive and sick of it all.

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So he, just like the Somalis that have nothing to live for, he just goes ahead and starts

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killing.

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You got to be desperate and hardcore to be the Somali pirates steaming out to face down

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the U.S. Navy and fighter bombers waving AK-47s in the air, ready to die.

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And they're like, hey, we're men.

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We're ready to fight you.

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Let's go.

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So he's a good guy then?

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I don't like what they're doing, but you got to admire them.

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Do you?

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I really don't think you do.

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You know, American women want a castrated male on Prozac wearing a flower outfit.

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Of course, they really don't want that.

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So they're never satisfied.

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Those Somali women are out there waiting for the pirates to come back, just begging for

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them.

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Of course, it's primitive, but it's what humans are.

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And we've gotten away from what we are.

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OK, so he drifts into deeply MRA kind of territory there, but that is a fucked up, like, train

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of thought.

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So then is he saying that the way we are is supposed to be like the Somali pirates?

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Yes, essentially.

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Or at least women are supposed to be that way.

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That tracks with his thought.

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Wow.

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He doesn't diagram that sentence, he's saying that, like, OK, so this Pittsburgh shooter

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was rational because he knew that they were coming for the guns.

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Right.

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You know, that was a big part of what he did.

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And you know, he's just like these Somali pirates in that they're desperate and they

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need to, you know, fight back.

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Nothing to lose.

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Then he goes on to say positive things about the Somali pirates.

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They're great.

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Maybe I don't like what they're doing, but you got to admire them.

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Which is, to me, a net positive statement.

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Just because you're giving lip service to not liking piracy doesn't mean that you're

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not saying good things about these pirates.

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I don't like the targets they're choosing, Dan.

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I love the way they do it.

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They got a verb.

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They got a flair.

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Because he's saying these positive things about the Somali pirates after comparing them

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to the Pittsburgh shooter, it's kind of a language works that he's saying positive things

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about the Pittsburgh shooter.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And he especially considers he starts it with his classic denigrating the Pittsburgh shooter's

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mail.

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Oh, he's alone.

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He's fat.

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He lives in his mom's basement.

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And then he's so desperate.

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And yeah, 10 percent of him knows that the cops are coming for his guns.

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So now he's desperate, just like these awesome, badass Somali pirates running around getting

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shit done.

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I love Somali pirates.

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And that is what this Pittsburgh guy is just like.

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I said that I love the white supremacist shooter, didn't I?

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Oops.

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Damn it.

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I got to undo.

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Can I redo that sentence?

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So I love pirates.

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At the end there, too, Alex isn't taking into account, like, possible other variables that

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explain why women are flocking to these pirates.

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They make a fuck ton of money.

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Do they?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Most of the ransoms are paid at this period of time.

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Right.

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Right.

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You know, they take over a bunch of boats.

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And because insurance stuff and all that and the difficulties of trying to get the boats

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back by fighting and stuff like that, most of the ransoms are paid off.

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And so these Somali pirates make tons, or at the time at least, before the problem was

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taken more seriously, they made tons of money.

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So the women flocking to them is more a function of a economically depressed Somalia where

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there is a outlaw business where people are very, very successful.

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I think that it might have more to do with that as opposed to being attracted to pirates

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for their guns and masculinity.

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So you're saying that these women who are with men in the Mexican cartels, they aren't

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attracted to the brutal, vicious nature of their business and their psychopathy, but

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instead they're attracted to the large sums of money that these guys get?

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I don't understand at all.

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I think we drift...

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As I know women and the way we are supposed to be.

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I think we drift too much into sort of misogynistic ideas if we say either, really.

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You know, like whether you're attracted to the brutality or whether you're attracted

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to the money, but I don't think it's necessarily in any way offensive to say it's a incredibly

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impoverished country.

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These are people who have some sort of an ability to provide a secure situation for

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you with the economic things at their disposal, and it does make sense that people would see

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them as more attractive partners than someone who is a broke fisherman or something like

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that.

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Yeah.

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Just from a socioeconomic standpoint.

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I wasn't...

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I was just drawing a parallel.

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I don't really know or presume.

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Yeah.

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Sure.

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Fuck them.

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I don't care.

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I'm just saying that Alex is...

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You know, this is real men's rightsy, real chauvinist nonsense coming out, which is

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so weird.

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It starts with like defending the Pittsburgh shooter, praising the Somali pirates, drifting

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into misogyny.

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It's just, I don't know what's happening, man.

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He just does...

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It's his subconscious doing everything possible to say out loud what he really feels, which

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is like, yeah, I love that Pittsburgh shooter.

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That dude was dope.

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But he has to let his brain...

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Like he's fighting viciously to keep the real part of him inside, and it's not going great.

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That guy got it.

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That guy...

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And yeah, 10% of it knew that they were coming for his guns.

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And if you know they're coming for your guns, that justifies your behavior.

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It's like the Somali pirates who are great.

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I love Somali pirates.

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I don't love white supremacist shooters, but they are a lot like Somali pirates whom I

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do love.

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You can draw your own conclusions there.

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That's no big deal.

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So, you know, the Pittsburgh shooter was motivated by these ideas that they're coming for your

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guns.

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And what do you know?

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Alex reinforces exactly that idea.

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Point here is they are coming for our guns.

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And let me give the government a newsflash.

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Your propaganda doesn't work anymore.

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That's why they're selling over a million guns a month.

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To the Somalis.

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The instant check is over a million, 200 and something thousand purchases a month.

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You got it?

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It's more than doubled.

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We know what you're up to and you're cruising for a bruising.

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Whoa, cruising for a bruising.

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The idea that tons of people are buying guns isn't evidence that the government's propaganda

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is not working.

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It's evidence that Alex's is.

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The idea that the government is trying to put out anti-gun propaganda and then it not

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working is evidenced by gun sales doesn't make sense.

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But the idea that Alex is saying they're going to take your guns, you should get more and

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people do buy guns, that is evidence that the propaganda is working.

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So Alex is looking at this backwards and sideways and wrong.

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Yeah.

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Pretty much all across the board.

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But the reason he's doing it is in order to reinforce those same narratives that led the

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Pittsburgh shooter down the path that ended up in him murdering police officers.

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So that's real cool.

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I like that, I say facetiously.

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So I told you we're not going to talk much about chemtrails, but Alex does bring up one

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thing that we've talked about in the past and I just thought it would be fun to make

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sure that everyone understands that some of Alex Jones' misunderstandings and inability

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to read have been consistent through the last decade.

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And then they say, oh, well, we're just testing looking at doing it.

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You know, again, it's all lawyer terms, the testing.

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Or as other people call them, terms.

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It is lawyer terms.

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They say, oh, we're just testing it right now, testing the terraforming technology with

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all these giant, no, see, that's the legalese, it's like US code, title 50, chapter 32, subsection

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1520A paragraph B states, oh, we can't do any chemical, biological or radiological testing

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on the American people or the military without their consent.

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Actually it doesn't say anything about consent and he's talking about paragraph A. It's actually

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the stuff about the prohibited activities.

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But go ahead, Alex.

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Patty.

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And every time I source that, the people go, look, Alex, it says the opposite.

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It says right here they can't do it.

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Until you read below it the exceptions for any research purposes, any humanitarian purposes,

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any law enforcement purposes.

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It's the exemption.

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So of course they call it research.

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We've talked about this before, but just because it bears bringing up how consistent his stupidity

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is.

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Yes, there are these exceptions in paragraph B, but the exceptions begin subject to subsection

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C, D, and E, the prohibition in subsection A does not apply to a test or experiment carried

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out for the following purposes.

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Subsection C says the Secretary of Defense may conduct a test or experiment described

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in subsection B only if informed consent to the testing was obtained from each human subject

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in advance of the testing on that subject.

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So the exceptions are actually enclosed within the consent thing.

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These are not exceptions to consent.

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The consent is imposed upon the exceptions.

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So Alex just doesn't know how to read.

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This is infuriating.

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He's a very big dumb-dumb.

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Yes.

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So I agree.

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Yeah.

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I just, you know, I like to bring that up every now and again.

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It's been a long time.

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He brought it up on the Rogan episode that he was on and he talked about it like a year

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and a half ago or something.

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We had to re-up a little bit.

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Let's just make sure that just because you can say a lot of words in a row and they do

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in fact correlate to a paragraph somewhere does not mean that those words correlate to

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the paragraph to which you are thinking.

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Or that the meaning is anything close to what you're describing it as being.

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Exactly.

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So, I mean, we got through that and now guess what?

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Soros.

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Pirates are back.

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Pirates are back.

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And so here come the pirates.

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The pirates are now preparing to engage the U.S. Navy.

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See they're the complete opposite of what we've become.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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I mean, you can't help but admire them.

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Yes, you can.

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You can help.

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I'll tell you though.

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Watch the films of the Somalis fighting.

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It's just devilish.

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I mean, there's no other way to describe it.

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It is devilish because they're ready to die.

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And unlike on average, you know, the stereotype of Arabs not being trained to shoot and being

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emotional.

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What?

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The Somalis aim.

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Uh-oh.

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What?

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Because they're Africans.

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They're not Arabs.

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It's devilish.

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But then you've got the opposite.

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You got us American men with big tats all over and strutting around, no fear, bugging

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their eyes out.

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The little guy at the supermarket of these big boys see a cop.

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They start urinating down their leg.

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That's you, Alex.

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You're in for your own country.

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You're cowards.

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You're cowards.

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Holy shit.

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He's calling his own militia people cowards and stuff because they're not like Somali

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pirates.

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This is crazy.

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I don't understand why any of this is happening.

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Neither do I.

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Because I scrambled on this.

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I was like, okay, is this an indication of something that means more than we realize?

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Like, is there some world power that was aligned with the Somali pirates that maybe Alex is

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being swayed by?

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No one was.

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No way.

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Nobody's on board with Somali pirates.

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Nope.

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They're literally pirates.

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They're only on board with themselves.

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Russia was even bombing them.

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Somali pirates aren't on board with other Somali pirates.

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They're pirates.

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Yeah.

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It was almost one of the most, probably the most universally opposed groups.

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He's watching videos of Somali pirates fight.

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I don't fucking know what he's doing.

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Where is he getting these videos?

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I think he's just making stuff up.

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That's what I think.

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And they're devilish?

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Oh boy.

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Somebody put him on a ship.

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Alex seems to be fundamentally misunderstood about what the Somali pirates were doing.

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Prior to this episode being recorded and later on too, people from the New York Times and

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the Guardian among other publications did interviews with actual Somali pirates and

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to a man, they all made it very clear that their only motivation was money.

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They were committing these crimes just to extort the ransom money from the ships.

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There was no grander political statement behind it.

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They weren't trying to wage war with the ships or any government and weren't fighting for

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freedom.

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It was just a criminal racket.

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That's all it was.

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This is super interesting because what Alex has done in his head is transform this mafia

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activity into something grander, something that fits his fantasies about what he'd like

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to see his militia community engage in if they weren't so cowardly.

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But that's all it is.

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It's just his fantasies.

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Now, it should be noted that there were side benefits to the pirates' activities, but they

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certainly weren't the primary reason they committed their crimes.

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Because they scared off a ton of fishing boat traffic, local fishermen were able to boost

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their yields, which was a real help to local economies.

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Additionally, the ransom money the pirates received was infused into local communities,

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which in turn began to help them flourish.

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None of this excuses sea piracy, and none of it was the reason that they got into privateering

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in the first place.

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Yeah, but you've got to give it up to them.

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It's an interesting historical piece, but it's what you would expect because there's

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inflows of money.

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It has to be spent somewhere.

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If these people are in these communities, that money is going to be spent there.

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It's interesting.

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It's not exculpatory or excusing them in any way.

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I mean, whenever you have an economically depressed region that is depressed economically

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by a, let's call it exploitative behavior from others, and then part of that economically

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depressed region is like, holy shit, what if we just started stealing our shit back?

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I mean, a lot of it isn't their shit that they're stealing though.

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It's like a lot of it is aid.

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I meant metaphorically.

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Right, right.

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You know what I'm saying?

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A lot of it, they end up taking hostages like aid that's supposed to go to these countries

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and stuff like that.

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Right.

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So it is-

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I'm not saying they're fighting the good fight.

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No.

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I'm specifically, I am not saying you have to give it up to them.

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Right.

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I'm specifically not saying that they're pirates.

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Yeah.

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You do not have to give it up to them.

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Yeah.

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Not at all.

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It's just more complicated than the black and white picture that Alex is presenting.

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Although his version is like, it's the good side of black or white, which is weird.

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Sure.

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So also Alex, throughout these statements that he's making about these Mali pirates,

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he seems to think that they're the same people who fought the US and Mogadishu in 93, but

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that's absurd.

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Mogadishu is on the south coast of Somalia, whereas the piracy was mostly surrounding

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the Gulf of Aden, which is between the northern coast of Somalia and Yemen.

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And it's also 16 years later at this point.

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I mean, sure, there may have been some overlap, like a couple of the pirates were veterans

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of, you know, that took down that Black Hawk helicopter.

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Sure.

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What have you.

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Sure.

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But it's crazy to think that it's mostly the same personnel or anything like that.

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And he seems to be conflating those two things in his mind because the Mogadishu is an embarrassment

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for the UN.

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So I think that there's a possibility that he thinks that these are the same Somalians

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who...

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Who are getting one up on the UN all over again.

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Maybe I think that that's the only theory I can come up with, but that's not good enough

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for this.

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Like there's a young army officer who took down the Black Hawk and he grew up in this

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is what, 16 years later?

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So now he's grizzled, let's say, but he's going to be played by Sean Connery.

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OK.

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Why not?

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He's, yeah, he's amazing.

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Ben Kingsley played Gandhi.

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This is exactly the same casting choice.

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Tom Hanks will play Captain Hook.

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So he's like, you know what, we got to get the band back together one more time and start

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our own piracy business.

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Kind of build it up.

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Let's go to the north coast.

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To be pretty successful for a while.

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Sure.

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Attract enough attention that people finally crack down on us and straight up murder us.

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That's the plan?

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Yeah.

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Just because I said that most of it was surrounding the Gulf of Aden, that doesn't mean that all

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of it was.

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Just to be clear.

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But that was like the most hot spots and stuff.

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And so geographically, it's kind of weird to assume.

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I just think that Alex is, I don't know what he's thinking, but if I had to come up with

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a theory, that's kind of what I would say.

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The association with embarrassment of the UN and stuff like that.

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But it doesn't merit this man.

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It doesn't.

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I'm just going to really simplify it and just say Alex likes outlaw assholes who kill people.

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I don't think you're wrong.

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And so he has Captain Sweeney on again the next day.

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And here's how he introduces him.

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I think this is tasteless.

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Good to have you here with us, Captain Sweeney.

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Thank you, Alex.

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It's great being with you.

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Give us the latest.

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I mean, these Somalis are amazing.

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What?

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This is so weird.

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This is so weird.

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What is he doing?

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I don't know.

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It's the craziest thing I think I've ever seen.

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He's just gradually talking himself more and more into these pirates.

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Not just that they were, not just that you have to give it up to them.

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Now we're at...

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They're amazing.

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These dudes are amazing.

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They're amazing.

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They're not like us cowardly US militia people.

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Because I think that he thinks that they're locked in some sort of like nationalist struggle

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against the globalist aid boats or something like that.

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When it's just, it's an extortion right.

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Are they the ones behind chemtrails too?

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Totally.

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Okay.

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That sounds right.

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I'm baffled by it.

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But this next clip...

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If the chemtrails were Somali, he'd be like, ah, you got to give it up to these chemtrails.

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This next clip I think brings it into a little bit more focus.

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I think it's really interesting because Alex kind of advocates a war crime in this next

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clip.

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But the way he's presenting it is very strange.

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Well, the real attacks happen.

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This isn't Al Qaeda made up.

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This is real.

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So that's the first part that I think is really weird.

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I think another reason that he is respecting them is he thinks that they're real terrorists

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as opposed to...

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As opposed to 9-11, which was staged.

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All of these fake terrorists out there and stuff like that.

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So I think that he thinks that they're a noble enemy for him to fight against.

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And therefore, you got to give it to them, but I'm still going to fight you.

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A great warrior can only be killed by a greater warrior.

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Anything else would be...

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I think that's a piece of this, which is really, really fucked up.

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That is fucked up.

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Is not reflective of reality at all.

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No.

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So here's where he advocates a war crime.

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And you just give him 12 hours to get out of the ports and you destroy Somalia's ports.

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I mean, do you think that's a bad idea?

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Whoa!

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Personally, what I would like to see first, I would like to see the restriction on merchant

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vessels having weapons be taken off and have it be a requirement that they have either

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armed guards on board or trained crews with weapons on board through high risk areas.

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I would also like to see some kind of mechanism for trying the pirates, because this is also

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bogus.

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Privateers?

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You know, the US Navy a few weeks ago had to hand back a catch pirate because they didn't

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know what to do with them.

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It was like catch and release.

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So they were like, now what are we going to do with these guys?

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I know, criminals, just like the illegal aliens can rob banks and let them go.

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Well, so captain, you disagree with targeted smart bombs, you know, would satellites know

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where the pirates are based blowing up all their bases?

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Right now, yes.

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And I'll tell you why.

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Because how do you...

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It's like Vietnam.

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I have a lot of friends who are in Vietnam.

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And I was in the army just after that, but everyone of them told me we had a heck of

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a time deciding who was the good guys.

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Yeah, but that's...

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Yeah, but this is like not going to Hanoi.

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This is like not going downtown.

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No, I'm saying hit their bases.

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Yeah, we could have not done that.

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I would say we have.

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If they do that, it's a floating base.

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But even then, a few weeks ago, the Indian Navy...

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Grabbed the wrong ship.

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...depected mothership, and then it turned out to be a Thai fishing vessel.

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And they killed all 14 crew members on there.

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So I mean, you know, it's like, I think personally that we need to have a defensive posture.

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So I think Captain Sweeney is fairly right there, and especially the part about, no,

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you're going to end up killing people who aren't the pirates, which is evidenced by

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what happened recently.

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And Alex's response to that is, he knows about that.

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When Captain Sweeney brings up that Indian Navy taking out this Thai fishing boat, Alex,

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before he even says, before Sweeney even says it, Alex knows what story he's going to bring

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up.

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Because Alex is aware that if you do just indiscriminately go bomb all these places,

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you're going to end up killing tons of people who are the wrong people, and he doesn't give

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a shit.

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Yeah, well, you're bumming him out.

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Stop saying stuff like that.

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It is a bummer.

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Stop saying stuff.

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You could see how deflated he was.

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Oh, so you don't think we should kill all of them?

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Well, they just killed a bunch of innocents.

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Bring that up.

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Come on.

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You don't want to kill everybody.

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It's so weird.

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No.

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All I'm saying is take a main economic port where not just illegal activity occurs, but

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many regular activity, and just blow it the fuck up and destroy the area.

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Yeah, I mean, get rid of all of their whatever fishing community does exist there, whatever

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economy is based on that there.

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Get rid of that entirely.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or kill a lot of people who are just there.

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Did they plant any crops?

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No.

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Oh, you know what?

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The Somali pirates need to eat, so you should destroy all food sources around the area as

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well.

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That way the Somali pirates just all starve to death.

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Yeah, that's a good plan.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, that's...

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That is a war crime, yeah.

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He's advocating something that would have horrible repercussions, and I can't imagine

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he hasn't thought that through.

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Maybe he hasn't.

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I don't know.

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But I just can't figure out his Somali pirate narrative.

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It's so complicated, because on the 9th, it wasn't weird.

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In his interview with Sweeney, it wasn't weird.

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He wasn't saying positive things about the Somali pirates.

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And then on the 10th, he's like, gotta give it to them, they're amazing.

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It does kind of sound like also what he did was, on the 9th, started talking about Somali

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pirates and kind of got a little excited, and then spent the rest of the night watching

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YouTube clips and all of this shit.

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That's a very possible theory.

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And that's why he knows immediately, like, oh yeah, they grabbed the wrong ship.

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I saw that last night, I was watching a shit ton of YouTube clips in between the chemtrail

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shit.

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And I'm telling you, you gotta give it up to the Somalis.

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It's very possible that that's exactly what happened.

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But whatever the case, I mean, this plays out over the next ways, like Captain Phillips

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was held for a while, so we'll see if Alex's narrative about the Somali pirates evolves,

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but this is where we jump off it today.

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When are they gonna kill Captain Phillips?

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I thought I used to respect these Somali pirates, but my first move would have been jump ship.

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I honestly wonder if he'll be mad that snipers took out some of those pirates to free Captain

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Phillips.

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Yeah, well that's because it's a dishonorable way of doing it.

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I wonder if that will be his approach.

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As we all know, they should have pulled out swords and clashed blades.

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What if that is his angle?

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I bet it is.

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I can't wait to find out.

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So cowardly to shoot a man from distance.

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You look him in the eyes, Dan!

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Such a weird thing you never expect.

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Alex never gives you what you expect.

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On some level, you expect the Soros shit to continue, it fucking doesn't, and he then

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is like, Somali pirates are great.

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Don't know what to do anymore.

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He's so confusing.

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But at least it brings me some joy to look at, like it really does.

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That's the kind of Alex that tickles me.

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That unexpected, out of left field support of terrorist pirates.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what else to say other than, it's like his ability to support and love

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white supremacists is restricted, because when they kill people it's bad.

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So he just transfers that over to Somali pirates, because they're romanticized murderers.

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So it's all good.

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Could be some of that.

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He's an idiot.

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Anyway, so we're done with the Somali pirates, and in this next clip, Alex complains more

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about-

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I gotta give it up to you for that segment on the Somali pirates.

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Thank you.

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You just gotta give it up to the Somalis.

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That's okay.

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So now Alex is gonna complain more about the Pittsburgh shooting stuff, and he's going

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to blame the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL for feeding his name to the media.

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But this clip is 46 seconds long.

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In the beginning of the clip, he's going to blame them for doing that, and by the end

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of the clip, he's going to admit he has no idea if they did that.

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This is quintessential Alex Jones right here.

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Good work.

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If you need a soundbite of how Alex Jones operates, this is it.

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And they're saying that I made this white supremacist kill three cops and shoot two

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others when it's admitted it was a domestic dispute with his mommy kicking him out, and

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it turns out the guy didn't like me and attacked me all over the web.

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And they knew that.

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So the issue here is, that must mean we're really getting to them when the hours of these

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cops being killed, the Southern Poverty Law Center fed my name into the newspapers.

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And then, of course, it turned out it was all a complete frame up and a lie.

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We know the Southern Poverty Law Center and ADL have been caught on record.

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I mean, I have the mainstream news stories from the 80s and 90s creating and leading

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fake Nazi groups and trying to get violence.

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I don't know if they're involved in this, but more and more, that needs to be investigated

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and looked into.

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He made a direct accusation that the Southern Poverty Law Center fed his name to the media

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to associate with this shooting.

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I don't know if they did that, though.

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That's crazy.

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You can't do that.

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They did that.

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You can't do that.

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I don't know if they did it.

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You can't do that.

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They did that.

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You can't do that.

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I don't know if they did.

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You can't do that at the same time that you're saying, like, I have all this on record, everything

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is...

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You know, like, that invalidates every single time you say, I know this.

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Because you don't...

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Well, I don't know it.

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I don't know it.

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But they did it.

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So...

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I can't tell you they did it.

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I think that's just a perfect, like, distillation of Alex to a T. I know it, but I don't know

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if it's true.

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We should look into it.

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That'd be fun if that was the standard everybody was held to.

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Oh, man.

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Right?

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We could say all kinds of shit.

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Crazy stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Crazy stuff.

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Do you know who is driving listeners to our podcast?

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Who's that?

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The MacArthur Foundation.

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Probably.

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So, now Alex has another guest on after this, and, you know, it's not great, the situation

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we find ourselves in.

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Oh, I should also tell you, he had Bob Chapman on, but it was a meandering, nonsensical interview,

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so...

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Yeah.

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And they don't do any of their weird gold thing.

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They don't do their two-man game?

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No.

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That's disappointing.

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I don't know exactly why.

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I think Alex was pressed for time because of the interview with Sweeney about the developing

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Somali pirate situation, and so him and Bob, Bob does do, like, a weird, crazy ad pivot

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to try and sell all of Alex's stuff that does include the gold and silver, and so there

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is a little bit of the sales stuff, but it's not the same pure, Alex uses Bob as a setup

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to bring in Ted.

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Yeah, you would think that if he had pirates on the brain, he would want to talk nonstop

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about gold.

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Debloons.

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Yeah.

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Cruverins.

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Think about it.

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Think about all the gold those pirates are finding.

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Yeah.

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So after...

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You've got to give it up for those Somali pirates and their economic choices.

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You've got to.

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Yeah.

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So after that, Alex has another guest on, and this is a really interesting guest to

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have on because he's not an idiot.

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Okay.

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We were taken with it as well, and that's why we're going to go to Mr. Black right now.

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Mr. Black, good to have you on with us.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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You got the floor for the rest of the hour, and I don't want to take much more time than

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that because I want you to be able to complete the interview that you've been gracious enough

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to do with us there in your offices.

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So the interview he's talking about in his offices...

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Is also going to be in the documentary.

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Yeah.

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You bet.

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There you go.

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So this is a weird situation for us to be in because Alex has accidentally found himself

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a credible guest.

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Oh, no.

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He's fucked.

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William Black is a professor of economics and law at the University of Missouri-Kansas

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City and has a deep resume in the world of finance.

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He played a major role in mitigating the damage that was done during the SNL crisis, which

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as he explains, he did by working against very harsh opposition to reregulate the savings

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and loan market.

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I thought that was when they hired Janine Garofalo.

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Mm-mm.

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Oh, I got it.

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Dick Ebersole.

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I have to assume Black has no idea who Alex Jones is.

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I can come up to no other conclusion as to why he agreed to come on because as we will

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find out shortly, he doesn't agree with Alex at all.

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So here's the first clip where they're having a discussion about how the banks are a bunch

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of frauds and all that.

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Oh, they are.

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I agree.

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They're being controlled.

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Federal Reserve.

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No, but that doesn't come up really because Black is not an anti-Federal Reserve guy.

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But he is a guy who is very against these lending institutions using corrupt means in

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order to do the exact same things that led to the 2008 crisis.

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So they have both the same sort of idea about what the problem is, but their views on it

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are very different.

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So they've been talking in circles a little bit.

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Alex is using some of his talking points and Black's responding to them just with scholarly

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aplomb and what have you.

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And then they get to the idea that what is going on is socialism somehow.

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This is the opposite of socialism.

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This isn't them helicoptering money down on the people.

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This is helicoptering money to the offshore banks.

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Yeah, I mean, he wanted precedent to be closest to national socialism.

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I guess where they call it socialism, but really just give it all to the inner party?

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Yeah, it's a fascist arrangement.

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And then they call it socialist.

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Right.

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Well, you know, the Nazi party calls itself National Socialist.

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I'm not comparing either of these to Nazis.

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I don't think that's, you know, that misuse of the phrase strikes me as really diminishing

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what Nazis were all about.

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But the economic system is similar.

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But the economic system is I think the best way to describe it is crony capitalism.

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And that's a terrible system.

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Anybody who's ever lived in a nation like that doesn't want to be there.

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Play them off.

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Of course, they're the crony capitalist.

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OK, let's exactly it's good for them, nobody else.

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Let's come back and talk about who's at fault, how we bring them to justice so that we can

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stop them because they control the political system now if we don't stop them somehow.

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As you said, it's going to lead to Weimar Republic or, I guess, Zimbabwe.

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He already in the earlier in the interview, Alex tried to characterize the hyperinflation

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that he's afraid of leading to the Weimar Republic style hyperinflation, and Black disagreed

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with him.

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So Alex is even just misrepresenting that there.

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But two important things there.

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Start that music cue right after he says crony capitalism, because that means one thing to

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Black and something else to Alex.

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But he got the soundbite he needed and then we're going to move along.

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We got it.

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That's great.

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But one other thing.

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Alex in that clip very clearly demonstrates that he is aware that the National Socialists

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just called themselves socialists, that they weren't actually socialists.

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So every time he tries to present the idea that Hitler was into socialism and stuff like

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that, go fuck yourself.

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It's on purpose.

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There's a level of like he's, you know, an improv or like if you're, yeah, I guess an

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improv, you're playing a character in a scene.

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You have to adjust your level of intelligence.

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Like why would your character be aware of X, Y, or Z?

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Like if you're playing some sort of like backwoods character, he shouldn't know about Noam Chomsky

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or something like that.

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Even if you do as the actor, Alex is fucking up his intelligence here.

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He's fucking up what he should be aware of.

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According to how he presents himself in his worldview, he shouldn't have the awareness

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that Nazis just called themselves socialists.

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He's fucking up the improv game here a little bit.

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I think it's probably partially because he's excited that William Black is saying a lot

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of things that sort of fall in line with his descriptions of the market.

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Right.

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They're using the same words.

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Alex is going to use them his way, whereas Black is going, God, I wish he had said to

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Black, like, so how do you feel about the Federal Reserve being voted on by three congressmen?

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I gotta go.

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So like I said, they don't agree on pretty much anything really at the, when you get

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down to the core of it, but that's not entirely fair.

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They agree about the description of the problem, namely that the banks and lending institutions

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were to blame for the 2008 financial crisis.

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But I think almost everyone agrees about that, save for the politicians who rely on donations

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from those sectors to fill their coffers.

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So they agree on the description, but if you take a look at Black in his public statements,

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you'll see that he's not at all on the same page as Alex in terms of prescriptions.

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One small caveat though, they are in agreement that they need to put people responsible for

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the crisis on trial, and if necessary, send them to prison.

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Alex probably is less interested in the trials part, he seems to call for summarily locking

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up bankers quite a bit, but the two guys definitely are on the side of these people need to face

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consequences.

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But again, I think almost everybody who's not biased about the subject agrees on that

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too.

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I think even the banks themselves agree that they caused the problem, they just don't care.

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Right, or they wouldn't be, they'd be reticent to admit it or publicly acknowledge it.

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So where do they differ?

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Here's one piece of information that should tell you just about everything you need to

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know.

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In the 2016 election, William Black served as an official economic advisor for the Bernie

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Sanders campaign.

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The same Bernie Sanders that Alex does a killer impression of, the same Bernie Sanders who

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Alex believes advocates economic positions that will lead the U.S. to collapse and becoming

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a totalitarian hellhole.

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William Black is Bernie Sanders' economic advisor, crazy.

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William Black's a pretty far left dude, especially from an economic perspective.

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His testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding the financial crisis could

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not be more clear in its point that the crisis was a failure brought on by deregulation and

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not enforcing the regulations that do exist strongly enough.

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In his Senate testimony, he explains that the repeal of Glass-Steagall was a big deal,

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but on the ground level, what was worse was how the Clinton administration, quote, implemented

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the Reinventing Government Initiative, which was hostile to regulation and enforcement.

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We were instructed, pursuant to that initiative, to refer to and think of the industry as our

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clients.

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That's a mindset that destroys effective supervision.

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He goes on to spell it out, saying, quote, the three Ds, deregulation, desupervision,

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and de facto decriminalization, returned with a vengeance in 1993 and expanded over the

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next 15 years.

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Quote, the most difficult aspect of the current crisis to contain was that roughly 80% of

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non-prime loans were made by entities not subject to direct federal regulation, primarily

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mortgage bankers.

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All the regulators needed to do to prevent the crisis was ban lending practices that

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were rational only for control frauds engaged in looting.

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The regulators consistently refused to do so because of their anti-regulatory ideology.

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He goes on to say, quote, effective financial regulatory cops on the beat are essential

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to our ability to prosecute elite white collar criminals.

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Though economics is very complicated as a game, Black's argument is very simple.

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There are tons of institutions that were engaged in what he calls control fraud, which is an

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idea that he pioneered, which is the idea that they take their institution and control

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it as an instrument of fraud.

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The chief way that this fraud was done was in the form of stated income loans, or what

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the industry calls liar's loans, where the lender knows that the recipient of the loan

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doesn't have the ability to repay the loan and assists them in lying about their income.

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According to Black's testimony, the incidence of fraud in stated income loans was nearly

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90%.

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That's a lot.

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Yes.

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So it's more complicated than this, but his basic point was that any institution that's

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engaged in stated income loans is pretty clearly doing so to commit a fraud and should be on

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everyone's radar.

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Because of deregulation and deprioritization of this form of crime in the late 90s and

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onward, the regulators were hamstrung in terms of dealing with this, which led to what amounted

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to a decriminalization of control fraud in the large financial institutions.

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In that environment, there's no incentive to play by the rules, and doing so is actually

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a great disadvantage, which increases the likelihood that the behavior will become endemic.

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The problems that William Black saw in the financial world were all things that he felt

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would be taken care of with regulation and regulatory follow-up, which Alex would not

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be in favor of.

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He also advocated for tying professional compensation to a firm's, quote, demonstrated long-term

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performance, which is something Alex might be in agreement with, unless the John Birch

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Society president is in the room at the time.

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Okay.

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So his advice is, instead of paying mortgage bankers a shit ton for doing something immediately

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and then dumping on it later, we should tie their income to long-term performance growth.

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That sounds like a terrible idea, Dan.

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It's a bit more complicated than that, but that's what it really boils down to in terms

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of what his positions were.

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There were these fraudulent systems-

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And he's describing regulatory capture as well, where the regulators were treating the people

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they were supposed to be watching over as their client, as opposed to being like, hey,

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hey, hey, hey, hey.

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Because of things that were done during the Clinton years.

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And he also makes a very salient point about the idea of needing to look at these situations

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outside of the context of politics.

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And the idea of trying to blame some administration for X or Y or Z is foolish, because you just

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need to deal with the problem as the problem.

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And the problem is these institutions taking their ability to turn themselves into instruments

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of fraud.

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That's the big deal.

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And the way that they do that chiefly, or at least in this instance, was through these

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liar's loans, these stated income loans.

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And also, the other thing is that they've done research into this.

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These stated income loans that he's talking about, which 90% of which were fraudulent,

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they were fraudulent at the direction of the lender, not the lendee.

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It was massively more prevalent for the person giving out the loan to coerce or be like,

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you should lie about your income and your ability to pay back this loan, because they

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were lying about the security of these loans.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

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Yeah.

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So there was just this incentive to create a blossoming onion of shit.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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That's your net income.

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I want your gross income.

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Well, you're not going to be approved for this loan if you give this as your gross income.

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But if you give just a little bit more as your gross income, they're going to approve

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you for this loan.

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Right.

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Why wouldn't you do it?

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You deserve to get this.

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I need you to get this loan.

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I don't know exactly the words they'd use, but it probably felt like that.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, I read over his Senate testimony for the Judiciary Committee and that's a pretty

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fine distillation of a lot of what he's advocating for.

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A lot of it comes down to regulatory failure and a need for stronger regulations and enforcement

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of those regulations.

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So I don't think Alex knows what he is into.

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I don't know if Alex knows what William Black is about outside of having seen him do an

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interview with Bill Moyers where he talks about how the financial system is corrupt.

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And Alex probably just took the surface level things that he agreed with him about and assumed

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he must believe all the globalist stuff and all that other nonsense.

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That's a dangerous assumption.

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And then William Black's like, I'll come talk to you.

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I'll come on your show.

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Doesn't know who he is, doesn't know what way he's being used in.

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And it's super interesting.

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I'm excited to see what that interview for the documentary turns out to be like, because

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maybe he will have figured it out by then.

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I don't know.

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Well, does he?

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So you listen to this whole interview, obviously, based on the way that Alex is talking so far

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from what I've heard and can gather from their like tones of voice and whatnot.

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Alex probably does know more about him than just like a surface level belief in his globalist

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stuff, just because he's clearly trying to get his sound bites.

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He is not trying to engage in an actual discussion.

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I think Alex knows his resume and that he's a credible dude.

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I think that's what he knows.

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I don't think he's read any of his writings.

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I don't think he's read like what he was like specifically involved in during the SNL crisis.

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Like I really don't think he does, because if he does or if he did know those things,

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well, I guess it wouldn't serve his interests at all to debate him, because William Black's

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much smarter than him.

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Oh, he'd get his ass kicked.

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Yeah, maybe.

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Maybe he is just trying to exploit him.

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I mean, if it's exploitative no matter what, but it's hard to tell if it's like an exploitation

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that's born out of ignorance or malice.

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Right.

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I'm not sure.

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Right, right, right.

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Or not malice, ill will.

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I don't know.

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Bad faith.

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Sure.

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There you go.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's hard to tell.

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I'm not sure.

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But, you know, it's a fine interview as far as it goes.

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It never gets hostile or anything like that.

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There's just a number of points where Black has to sort of clarify positions and stuff

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like that, because Alex is sort of...

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He is constantly trying to lead him down the path that he needs him to go down.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And he just comes back to regulation and stuff like that fairly regularly, but without making

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that super overt, which I'm not sure why.

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Could be because he does know about Alex and doesn't want to bring up regulation, or it

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could just...

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Sure.

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I don't know.

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But anyway, in this next clip, he brings up what happened after the Great Depression,

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which is an important point.

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I think our mantra should be not a penny more until we have a Pecora investigation started.

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Pecora was the guy, experienced prosecutor, that we brought in the Great Depression to

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say, find out the facts.

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And the Wall Street fat cat hated him, detested him, fought him every step of the way.

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But he found the facts, he found the widespread fraud, and it led to many of the statutory

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changes that for 50 years worked so successfully in America until Wall Street finally got enough

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political juice to get rid of the laws right near the end of the Clinton administration.

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So he's bringing up the Pecora investigation, which was a very interesting period right

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after the Great Depression where Pecora was bringing in these bank heads and just fucking

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dunking on them in court and stuff like that, embarrassing them to the point where they

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had to resign and stuff like that.

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It's disappointing that that...

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What was the name of the bootlegging movie with Sean Connery and Kevin Costner?

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Do you remember that one?

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Not off the top of my head.

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Oh, God damn it.

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I would have loved instead of that, because that was about the FBI breaking up bootleggers

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and shit like that.

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Oh, yeah.

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The Unforgiven?

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No, Untouchables?

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Untouchables.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That movie should have been about the Pecora investigation and it just didn't have enough

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action.

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I don't know if there's any gunplay.

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That's the problem.

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If we just wrote... that was pretty much what the other guys tried to do, that Will Ferrell,

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they tried to make the Pecora investigation a buddy cop movie.

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Perhaps.

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It's a really...

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That's an interesting way to look at that.

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It's a good movie.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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The thing that's interesting to me about this is that the system worked well enough in the

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aftermath of the Great Depression that the conclusion of the report of the Pecora investigation,

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if you actually go back and read it, it talks about how it lays out all the causes of financial

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misdealings, games that were being played by banks and lenders and stuff like that.

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And then it explains, we don't really have recommendations because they have already

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been taken care of over the course of this investigation, because by the time the investigation

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ended, Glass-Steagall had already passed, along with other banking reform bills and

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stuff like that.

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So the system even worked better then, because during the investigation, people were like,

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oh, this stuff is... oh, we're starting to learn stuff, we better fix it before we're

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told to.

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I don't understand.

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It's just another symptom of how broken things are now.

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So this guy was finding these problems, and then when they found the problems, they were

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like, oh, let's do something about these problems, instead of being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what

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if we just rode out the investigation and just saw where it landed and saw maybe, I

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wonder if we could influence public opinion so that the investigation itself wouldn't

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even have mattered.

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I bet we could wring another few years of as much money out of this as possible, and

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oh, shit, Trump was elected.

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Fuck.

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It's very interesting.

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But again, the important thing to remember is that when the PCORA thing came to a head

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and when the S&L crisis was dealt with, all of it was about regulation and re-regulation

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of markets that had fallen into negative patterns.

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So for Alex to be having this guy on who's sort of like bread and butter and everything

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that he's advocated for kind of comes down to regulating markets, it doesn't seem like

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that's something that Alex should be into, but he is an expert, and thus Alex needs him

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to sign off on this idea that the collapse and the crisis that happened in 2008 was planned.

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That's important for Alex.

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So in this next clip, he tries to lead him down that road, and we'll see how Black responds.

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You're saying that, I mean, just on record, that the people that remove these laws, because

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I remember seeing Senator Dornan and others say this was going to happen on the floor,

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but he was against it, they knew from setting it up, from running it up to running it down,

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they fully knew, and this was premeditated.

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No I'm not saying that.

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I don't know that Congress knows.

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I'm telling you that in the trade, everybody knew that if you made something called a liar's

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loan, it was because they were frauds, overwhelmingly, and that it was going to produce a disaster.

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Now Congress, of course, is paid not to know, right?

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The bankers don't go in front of Congress and say, Ty, we want to produce a disaster.

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Please take our money.

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They tell Congress, hey, we have this wonderful new thing, financial derivative, and everybody,

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which is to say us, on Wall Street, says this is the greatest thing since sliced bread,

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and everything's going to be wonderful, and we need it because unless we have it, we can't

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compete with the German, massive, what are called universal banks that can do anything.

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So we have to get rid of every protection we've ever put in place in the United States

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so that our big banks can compete with their giant banks.

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That's how they sold it to Congress.

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So that's a little bit against Alex's narrative, but it also is more real.

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That's a tough thing to yell.

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That's the problem for Alex.

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That is a tough thing to yell.

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And then he doesn't get to demonize the politicians and stuff like that, when it's easy to demonize

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them as just being willfully complicit.

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Bought and paid for?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And that was intended for a collapse to happen just because they looked the other way.

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Maybe some people had misgivings about looking the other way.

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Maybe had a suspicion that something bad could happen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, of course no one was like, hey, we're going to fucking destroy everything.

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Of course not.

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And having him on there, it's really interesting to see this.

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That was definitely an attempt on Alex's part to get that sound bite he needed.

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Him signing off on the idea of it being intentional.

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But because Black knows things and understands things, he's like, well, on the part of the

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people committing the frauds on Wall Street, yes, it's intentional.

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But there's more nuance to it and Alex is not interested in that.

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So it doesn't get hostile and they end the interview and they go their separate ways.

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And then Alex gets back to complaining about the Pittsburgh shooting and him being attached

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to it, which seems to be very touchy subject for him.

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It sure seems like he's attaching himself to it, even if he wasn't attached to it before.

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Like even if people were just saying like, oh, he's attached to it, he could have just

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not said anything.

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But now that he's like, oh, they're attaching me to it, I'm going to talk about it all the

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time.

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But see, here's the thing that you fail to understand here.

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He's only doing that because the media is pulling a psyop on him and he needs to fight

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back against that psyop, as he explains in this next clip.

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Alex is attacking me because I'm calling for not having violence.

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The establishment is bold.

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They say, you want to murder cops.

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And I go, I just said, we don't want this to happen.

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And they go, no, you want to murder cops.

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You cause cops to be murdered.

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And I'm going, the bankers are engineering a collapse.

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They're going to go after the people's guns.

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They've introduced the bills.

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It's going to be a bloodbath.

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We don't want violence.

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And they say, you know what?

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You're a cop killer.

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See, I mean, it's like, this is psychological warfare.

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They mean it to be crazy.

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They mean it to be wild.

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You know, why have they come out in the, in the case of a one al Qaeda member and claimed

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he's been killed over 15 times and never retract the last time he was killed?

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Why do they do that?

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They never say he wasn't killed last time.

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Chemical Ali, they claimed they killed him four times.

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Now they're saying they're going to execute him or something.

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So I don't know who that al Qaeda member who's been killed 15 times is because he doesn't

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use any specifics, but he does talk about Chemical Ali.

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Chemical Ali was the name given to Ali Hassan Al Majeed, who was the cousin of Saddam Hussein

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and also a guy who authorized indiscriminate use of chemical weapons on the Kurds in an

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attempt at genocide.

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On June 24th, 2007, he was found guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death.

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However, his execution was postponed and then president, the then president of Iraq was

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hesitant to sign the execution order over political reasons.

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This was allegedly all cleared up on February, 2008.

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Chemical Ali was also sentenced to death on December 2nd, 2008 in a separate trial, this

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time for quote, playing a role in the killing of between 20,000 and 100,000 Shiite Muslims

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during the revolt in Southern Iraq that followed the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

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He was also sentenced to death a third time on March 2nd, 2009, this time for the assassination

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of Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Al-Siddur.

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He's also been, he's just been sentenced to death a bunch of times.

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For all of his crimes.

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Right.

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In separate trials.

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That all individually deserve death by the way.

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It's not like he's been, he's not, he's been, he's been sentenced to death a bunch, like

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you don't need to retract it because he was sentenced to death.

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This is almost certainly what Alex is confused about, but because he's an idiot and he can't

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read, instead of getting to the bottom of where his confusion stems from, Alex insists

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he's right about everything, and any deviation from that is proof of a media psyop.

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It's pathetically childish behavior.

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Chemical Ali was executed on January something 2010, I can't remember the exact date.

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But that's the time that he died.

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All the other times are Alex just misunderstanding different trials that he had over the course

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of two years or so.

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It's real stupid.

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Does he think?

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It's real fucking stupid.

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I think he kind of thinks that if you get sentenced to death, like you walk out of the

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courtroom and then you are hung.

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Bullied.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I don't know.

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In the interest of total fairness though, I should point out that there was a rumor

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that Chemical Ali was killed in Basra on April 6th, 2003, but it was only that, a rumor.

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It wasn't reported as his death.

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Right, right, right.

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So that's the only thing I could think of, but that's still only one.

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He said four times.

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It's very clear he's talking about the four times he was sentenced to death.

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Absolutely.

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So this is sad, man.

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That's sad.

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That's bullshit.

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That's weak.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, Alex has a breakdown about how he feels like a victim.

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I mean, folks, we're total criminals run everything.

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We are screwed and if we don't realize how bad it is, we have no hope of getting out

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of this.

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The house has caved in on us.

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You know, we're pinned, we're bleeding and the American people are going, oh, it's a

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little cramped, but I, and I'm like in the rubble with them going, listen, this is really

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bad.

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They're trying to dig out of here and, and you know, and they're like, shut up, conspiracy

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theorist.

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Hold on, let me pull this two by four with nails out of my back.

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This is a weird metaphor.

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I mean, we're caved in here and I'm saying, let's dig our way out and the people are arguing

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going, I don't know, the ceiling's supposed to be six inches from the floor.

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I don't know who is who.

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And those of us that have been trying to hold the house up, you know, we're down here in

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the mine, like the song Big John.

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Now it's a mine?

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And we're sitting around to hold this thing up together.

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And then, and the public's punching us in the stomach and chest going, stop it.

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Conspiracy theorist, stop being anti-government.

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You're evil.

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There's no new world order.

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There's no, everything's fine.

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Shut up.

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There's no one child policy and no carbon tax.

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And they're just punching us.

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We're like, please stop.

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I'm trying, you know, they're just punching us.

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I'm on police.

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We're trying to hold up things, you know, and they're just like punching us as fast

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as they can.

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This is going on a while longer.

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Oh my God.

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They're building family camps.

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Shut up.

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The government loves me.

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Shut up.

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They're just punching, punching, punching.

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Number one, please, please.

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You know, please stop.

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No, no, the government's good.

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Government loves me.

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Just punching, punching, punching, punching.

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You stole my screenplay.

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The cops are reading my reports and pulling Ron Paul supporters over, get out of the car.

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And of course then they're starting to buy guns.

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Where are they in the house?

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They're turning to hell.

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Whoa, we're going to have to fight.

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Are they going to fight?

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This is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Is that what that was?

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You understand?

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This is real.

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Taranee's come to our shores.

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Bondage is coming and no, you don't understand that you're arrogant.

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You like your petty power in government and the yuppies think everything's fine and you

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have no idea how bad this is going to get because you haven't been in the mine.

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That's prophetic.

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That was a protracted metaphor that he gave and I agree it's convoluted as hell, but what

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he's just trying to say is we're good guys trying to help everybody and everybody's punching

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me in the stomach metaphorically.

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Stupid, stupid.

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I can't believe that he imagines that he is a force for good, but I can see that delusion.

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But the idea that he, in his house slash mine metaphor, he's like, please stop.

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Like the idea that he thinks he's doing this politely is very bizarre.

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But you should have heard there at the end, he says, can't you tell this is a self-fulfilling

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prophecy?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's what confused me the most.

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That's because he's talking about the Pittsburgh shooting.

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The Pittsburgh shooting happening is a self-fulfilling prophecy because of what all of these gun

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grabbers are doing.

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So again, he's trying to justify the actions of this guy who killed cops and at the same

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time complaining about people who saying that he's advocating for this.

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It's very strange to me and it also sort of paints the picture that he sees himself as

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the true victim of that crime, which is on brand.

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It's certainly on brand for Alex, but so, so, so you guys are going to be mad at me.

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You guys are going to be mad at me.

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This is your fault for putting out that MiAC report, reporting on people who will do things

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like this guy.

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It's not my fault for sensationalizing that MiAC report, making guys who are in that MiAC

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report feel safe and then saying that they should be fighting against you because the

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MiAC report's conclusions are correct based upon your behaviors that wouldn't have existed

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if you hadn't put out the MiAC report in the first place.

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So who's really at fault here is Soros.

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Soros?

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Is it Soros?

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Doesn't say.

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Doesn't say.

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Doesn't bring him up in terms of all, he's on an unhinged rant here about the very things

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that he was complaining about Soros about previously, just a couple of days ago.

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I don't fucking understand what's going on here.

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Somali pirates, Soros is missing.

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I don't know what's going on anymore.

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2009 is a mystery.

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2009 is a mystery.

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So what are we in April?

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Yeah.

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How many narratives have we gone through?

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So many.

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It's insane.

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But in order to keep our bearings about us, we've got to get to something concrete.

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We got to call the Somali pirates.

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They know how to keep bearings.

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So we've got to get our hold of something real, something that actually exists.

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Like we're Desmond on Lost.

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We need to find our constant.

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Yes.

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There it is.

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There it is.

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I was waiting for the Lost reference.

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So I find my constant in Alex bringing up an actual thing that I can look into.

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In this case, it turns out to be a document put out by the Council on Foreign Relations.

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No one's ever wanted to rule the world.

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There aren't global elites.

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The Council on Foreign Relations in literally hundreds of documents just in the last few

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years hasn't called for global governance.

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I mean, they actually have, but international institutions and global governance program

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world order 21st century, May 1st, 2008, with David Rockefeller saying they're going to

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enter planetary takeover by the U.N. by a world depression.

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I mean, that doesn't exist, sir.

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And if you think it exists, if you think the CFR exists, well, then you're an orange monkey

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wearing a tinfoil hat.

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That's all I can really say.

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That's a reference to one of his sponsors, Home Game.

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They have a mascot, the Home Game Gorilla.

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He was just doing a plug for them where he was playing with a plush gorilla toy.

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And he's like, let's get a tinfoil hat for it.

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So he's even doing a little product plug there at the end.

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Subtle.

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Home Game is a...

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It's a place where you can put in your home address and they'll give you a estimated value

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you could get for it.

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And then they have like...

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Oh.

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It's a scam.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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It's a scam.

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I didn't understand the...

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We talked about them in the past.

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They're a very unscrupulous business.

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But this document that Alex is talking about, the International Institutions and Global

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Governance Program from the Council on Foreign Relations, that is a document that was released

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on May 1st, 2008, and has what appears to be a very scary title for someone like Alex.

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If you actually read the document, the first thing that jumps out to you in the first paragraph,

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they literally say that the program is funded by a grant from the Robina Foundation, an organization

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I have literally never heard Alex bring up.

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That seems strange.

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Also, it specifies who's running this program, who's in charge of ushering it through.

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It's not David Rockefeller.

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David Rockefeller is not involved in this report at all.

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His name does come up, but only as like some foundation with his name on it being like

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an attaché.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't mean he's personally involved in this.

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As is always the case, Alex doesn't understand what a document is about, but he relies on

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being able to create fear out of a title that includes words like global governance.

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In reality, what that refers to here is not so much the creation of a world government,

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but the idea of managing an approach to issues that aren't isolated to one country or region.

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As the document explains, quote, the program will take an issue-area approach, focusing

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on arrangements governing state conduct and international cooperation in meeting four

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broad sets of challenges.

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One, countering transnational threats, including terrorism, proliferation of weapons of mass

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destruction and infectious diseases.

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Two, protecting the environment and promoting energy security.

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Three, managing the global economy, and four, preventing and responding to violent conflict.

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They go on to explain that there's a variety of approaches that they are studying.

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Quote, in each of these spheres, the program will consider whether the most promising framework

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for governance is a formal organization with universal membership, e.g. the United Nations,

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a regional or subregional organization, or a narrower informal coalition of like-minded

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countries, or some combination of all three.

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A narrower informal coalition of like-minded countries is basically a description of alliances.

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This is saying that it's possible that in some instances, an organization like the UN

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might be best equipped to respond to a crisis.

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But in others, perhaps just countries on the same page would be best.

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That seems counter to the idea that this document is about establishing a one-world government.

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If you read the whole thing, it's about global cooperation, not global government.

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Governance is the word they chose to use, which sounds similar to government but doesn't

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mean the same thing.

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Man, we gotta figure out how to get these guys to understand what words are gonna turn

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into what.

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Yeah, I mean I think that probably a lot of people don't understand what people with bad

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will will do.

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Right, like we could have talked to those Club of Rome guys and got them to just call

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it the like happy fun time hour and it would have been fine.

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Like all their advice is good shit.

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I think that they had like one sentence they fucked up in one book, one of their publications

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that just led to everything spinning out of control.

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Yeah, probably.

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I can't believe how flimsy that shit is.

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Yeah, I mean, what they're describing is, hey, guess what?

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The world is interconnected now.

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You thought that you could just be a place by yourself, but it turns out that if there's

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an earthquake in Tokyo, that can affect your shit.

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So how are we gonna deal with all of this shit that affects all of us the best way?

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Is it gonna be through everybody voting?

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Is it gonna be through us in Mexico being like, let's fix this fucking canyon or all

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of that shit?

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It's what are the best ways to deal with problems that aren't just yours?

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100%.

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Yeah.

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And the report is very specific about this program being about studying these problems

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and the approaches that can be taken to them with a broad spectrum.

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There are multiple paradigms, I guess, of organization that are being looked at, which

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does imply the possibility that just a country responding itself is great, could be the right

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thing in many instances.

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This is not at all advocating global government.

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It has nothing to do with what Alex is saying, but again, the title...

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And in many instances, it would actually be advocating against global government because

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that would be too slow.

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100%.

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Exactly.

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So, I mean, like he says that there's hundreds of thousands of reports that the CFR has put

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out and stuff like that.

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I mean, whatever, I don't care.

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That's the one you specifically chose and it doesn't say what you say it says.

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So I don't know what to do with that.

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It's just the same thing he does with news stories, just the title instead of headline.

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Read the headline and yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's kind of weak.

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So we have one more clip here.

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And the reason that we're going to end with this is it's a nice coda to everything.

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I wish it called back the Somali pirates, but unfortunately...

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That would've been great.

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No, that's done for the day.

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So William Black was on.

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He was a very reputable source.

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He was a measured, informed person who ended up becoming the economic advisor for Bernie

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Sanders, which is just...

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I can't get over the humor of that as in being in Alex's documentary, but we'll leave that

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aside for now.

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Alex responded to him as someone who was trying to lead down paths and then just sort of gained

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credibility to his arguments by attaching them to William Black.

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Yeah.

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Now his callers and his listeners maybe don't agree with that perspective.

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Let's just go to your phone calls right now as promised.

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Joe in New Mexico, sir, you're on the air.

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Welcome.

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Hey, Alex.

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I'm getting kind of frustrated here and I was listening to that William Black interview

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with you and I watched his Moyers.

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People got to go back and watch the third segment on that.

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This guy is...

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He's holding back.

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You are a truth seeker.

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This guy, in my opinion, he's pulling a Glenn back.

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He's pulling a Glenn back.

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This is what happens when you internalize narratives like Alex Jones's.

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What you do is you exclude people with actual expertise on issues and because they don't

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fall exactly in line with Alex's ideas about the Federal Reserve and that everybody crashed

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the economy on purpose, they are now Glenn Becks.

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They're controlled opposition when in reality they're telling a studied approach to what

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happened.

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What you do is you poison the well in more ways than one.

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You ruin your own ability to look at the world really and then you also create, I don't know

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if you call it an oppositional defiance, but you create a hostility towards people who

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know things who don't agree with you.

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You have a built-in excuse for why the world doesn't conform to your expectations of them

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and that's super dangerous.

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It always has the same endpoint which is cannibalization.

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Anytime these kinds of situations occur, right?

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So with this fucking guy, oh, we get rid of all of the liberals, but then it's just us.

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We don't have an enemy to hate, but then some guy, and then some guy says that.

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So we got to get rid of all of those guys and now it's just us and we don't have anybody

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to hate.

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Well, that guy disagreed with me about this.

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So now it's only these guys versus these guys who are left in the libertarian movement.

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None of it means anything because all that exists for them is the desire to get rid of

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people, not to create anything or to grow.

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And from that perspective, even if you take away the merits and just it being the right

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and just thing to do in terms of social inclusion and stuff like that, that alone is enough

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of an argument to be a damning indictment of just the mentality of exclusion.

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It always will end up, like it's a piece of paper that's folded over and then it gets

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folded again.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right, we're a white nation.

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We got rid of all the black people and all the brown people and it's just us.

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Let's get back to hating Catholics.

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Now it's Catholics.

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We hate Catholics.

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All right, we got rid of all the Catholics.

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Now it's Irish.

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Now we got rid of all the Irish.

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Now it's, you're never going to end.

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It's a fractal.

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It's a fractal.

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Yeah.

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I agree with that.

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And on an intellectual level, that's what his callers manifest because of the brain

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worm that Alex has introduced to them.

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Right.

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So that's sad.

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Although, God damn it, did I enjoy the idea that he likes Somali pirates?

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Man, why?

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It's bananas.

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Why?

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Why pick Somali pirates?

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It's weird.

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It's a strange place to stake your claim and plant your flag, but I respect it on some

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levels.

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And honestly, I think on-

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Hey, you got to give it up to the Somali pirates for inspiring it too.

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You got to give it up to the Somali pirate apologists in the world like Alex Jones.

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What the fuck?

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In many ways-

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It's tough to...

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You know what?

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That's where we've gotten away from our roots, which is apologizing for Somalis.

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In many ways, I find this more interesting than the Soros Lombasting.

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I think because that is a story that needs to play out further.

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What?

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The Somali pirate?

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No, the Soros stuff.

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This, it's like, there's nothing I need to know more.

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It, to me, is a juicy Alex Jones fuck up.

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It is nice that we have, by virtue of the show that we do and who we cover, unlike scripted

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shows where it's like, oh, for Breaking Bad, whenever they have an episode that's set entirely

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at the bottle episode, they do that because of budget constraints.

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But for us, it's like, Alex just gave us a bottle episode where he decided Somali pirates

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are great.

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Yeah.

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We've got a larger narrative.

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We're going to get back to it, but for today, Somali pirates are great.

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No, because it is even like that bottle episode because they're still dealing meth and the

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entire plot of the show is still going on.

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So Alex being mad about the Pittsburgh shooting stuff, that's sort of the dealing meth part

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of it.

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And then the fly is Somali pirates support the fuck.

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Anyway, we'll see how that plays out.

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I'm very excited about 2009 again.

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I have been reborn in 2009.

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Gotta give it to him.

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Gotta give it to the Somali pirates.

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What a dick.

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I did not think I would ever hear that sentence in my life, Dan.

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It's weird.

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Very weird.

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But you gotta give it to us because we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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Knowledgeflake.com.

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And we have stolen nobody's domains.

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That's true.

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I have squatted on a couple for comedic effect.

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That's true.

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I don't want to get into it.

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Do we still have Fill Your Hand?

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I think we do.

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I think we do.

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That's nice.

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FillYourHand.com.

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Feel free to go to FillYourHand.com.

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Click the support the show button or I don't know, I guess Fill Your Hand.

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You can go check us out on Twitter at Knowledge Underscore Fight.

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Indeed.

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You can find us on Facebook.

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Also, I just remembered that someone sent me a message on my personal Twitter and I

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forgot to check.

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I saw like a notification, but I didn't check it and I apologize.

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I will get back to you.

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I never use my personal Twitter and I'm probably going to just get rid of it because I haven't

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used it in forever.

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But I don't want that person to think that I'm ignoring them.

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I'll get back to you.

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Yeah.

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I just felt very self-conscious about that.

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We're also on Facebook.

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You can also join a group.

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It's called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're a Somali Pirate.

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That's right.

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Yep.

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That's a good one.

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You got to give it up to us for naming it.

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That's true.

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We're also on iTunes where you can rate, review, subscribe, all that stuff.

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I should tell you, Jordan, I don't know if you know this, I recently checked in on our

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reviews and there are a bunch of them that say, not since Bill Cooper has anyone taken

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down Alex Jones.

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There are a bunch.

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So thank you to everybody who followed through with that joke.

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That's very funny.

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Yeah.

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Well, we're back.

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We'll be back.

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I'll say that, I don't know, William Black doesn't seem like he's ever killed anybody.

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He just seems to have given good financial markets and helped to reregulate the savings

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and loan industry.

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He seems like a pretty good guy.

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He's never killed anybody, but he's in a documentary with a guy who has technically probably killed

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a guy.

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Who's that?

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That's Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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He's holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.

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Thank you so much for having me.