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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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What up?
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Dan.
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What?
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Uh, where was the last vacation you took?
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Last vacation I took was last night, hanging out with you and your girlfriend, drinking Dom Perignon.
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It was weird.
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It was a vacation to luxury.
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It was, it was.
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If you will.
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Other than that, I don't know, do you count doing comedy on the road vacation?
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Um, sure.
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Then I guess, I don't know, the drop.
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In Indiana?
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Yeah.
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Alright, alright.
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That's, everybody loves vacationing in Indiana.
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South Bend, almost.
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You've seen so many tourism commercials for Indiana.
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Yeah, I went and did a weekend with the delightful Nick Rowley out there.
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Oh, that sounds fun.
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It was a super fun time.
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Cool.
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Do you know a lot about Alex Jones?
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I do.
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Would you say more so than most people in Indiana?
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Yes, it's my permanent vacation, studying Alex Jones.
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I'm not sure.
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That wasn't so great.
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And I know less about Alex Jones than a lot of people in Indiana, I assume.
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I would, I don't know, there's a lot of, actually, I went and did a, I was not on the show, but
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I went and hung out with a friend of the show, Marty DeRosa, in a show he did in the middle
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of nowhere in Indiana.
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Right.
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It was one of the few times I've ever seen an Info Wars shirt in the wild.
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Really?
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Yeah, and an Info Wars hat and a Hillary for Prisms shirt.
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Oh boy.
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And I almost fell out of my booth, my bar booth.
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Right.
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I was so taken aback by this weirdo.
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So I know less about Alex Jones than him?
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That's true.
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Or perhaps I know more about Alex Jones than him since he bought his merchandise.
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Yeah, he might have all the trappings of the mark.
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Wrong knowledge.
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Yeah.
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But someone who doesn't have the trappings of the mark is our new donor.
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Nice.
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Very excited to give a shout out to this person jumping on, coming on board.
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We appreciate it so much.
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Thank you.
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You are now policy wonk, Dr. Dylan.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much, Dr. Dylan.
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It is lovely to have multiple people with advanced degrees follow our show.
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I'm not sure if this is an actual doctor or just the name that's been, he's chosen to
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take on.
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Dr. Dylan is a medical doctor.
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I believe he's a doctor.
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I believe that.
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I can only imagine that-
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He treated me for the rickets once.
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Getting the honorific title of policy wonk second only to medical doctor.
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To a medical degree.
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So, Jordan, today we got something very exciting in your lab.
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We got another package.
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We got a little something in the mail.
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I know actually that this one is from listener Catherine, who actually called in on our last
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episode.
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Oh, man.
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She is becoming an all-star apparently.
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This is going to just turn into the Catherine.
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Yeah, apparently.
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No, it's not.
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But very exciting.
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Here we go.
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What do we got here?
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What do we got here?
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Oh.
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A super fight, a game of absurd arguments.
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Ooh.
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Oh, no.
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That could be a very dangerous thing for us to engage in.
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Super fight is a game where you argue with your friends over ridiculous fights.
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That sounds like what we would do with or without a card game.
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Yeah, the game is very simple.
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It's fun for all levels and works for all kinds of players.
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Why are we running an ad for this?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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They deserve a plug because we just got a free copy of it.
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You are.
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Sure, sure.
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Here you go.
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This would have been nice for last night when we were drinking Dom Perignon at your house.
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Do you know what that was?
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Do you know what that is?
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That is the book by Chris Bekelder writ large.
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That's Bear versus Shark right there.
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Yeah, basically.
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Yeah.
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Bear versus Shark turned into a game.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you so much, Catherine.
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That's very nice of you.
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We appreciate it.
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We will give this a test run the next time we're doing something, maybe after the show.
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Yeah, it's entirely possible.
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Or maybe we'll just start a branched off podcast now or I'll sit around.
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You don't have to be here.
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I'll sit around.
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People can call in and I'll have absurd arguments.
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I'll play that game with people.
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Who cares?
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I don't know.
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He will do that off air.
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He'll just convince you that you are recording and it's just really him being alone, just
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like, hey, anybody want to play some game?
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You want to play a game?
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But if you do call in, that is something you can do.
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You might end up on our voicemail.
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So, let's check the voicemail bag.
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Here we go.
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We got segments now, son.
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Too many bits up top.
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Yeah.
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But we did get another call.
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I'm very excited to hear this little bit of information from a listener.
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Hello, Dan and Jordan.
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This is Andrew from Redding, California.
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You may not know, but 530 represents many cities and Redding is about an hour north
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of Chico.
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So, if you come all the way to Chico to do a live show, I expect to see you in Redding.
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And also, I just wanted to say, I love you.
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Oh, Andy in Kansas.
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What a fun thing this is turning into now where we're being bullied into a tour of small
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town, California.
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Why not?
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Hey, I mean, Chico has like 80,000 people in it.
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I looked that up last night.
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Shut up.
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I wanted it to come off as though I knew a random population.
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Yeah, I just know populations.
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No big deal.
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Redding has, you know, 140,000.
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I made that up.
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And I like the idea that this is going to become sort of a thing that people are going
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to insist we do.
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And make no mistake about it, we're not.
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No, it's not going to happen.
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Please, please keep threatening us to.
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We would love to.
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We would love to.
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And we appreciate your threats.
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Logistics are tough.
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Exactly.
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But thank you for the call.
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We appreciate it.
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If you'd like to reach us, you can do so by calling 1530 Neon Nip.
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Just one.
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Just one nip.
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The other one died tragically in a phone call accident.
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Yes, indeed.
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You can reach our voicemail.
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And I don't know if I start playing the Super Fight game on the phone, you can play that
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with me on it.
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And apparently, if you're from the 530 zip code, you're the only ones whose voicemails
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are going to get played on the show.
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For now.
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Yeah.
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Because that bit is strong.
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So, Jordan, today, what we've got in front of us is a current episode.
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All right.
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Generally, we'd like to start.
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How's he doing?
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Is he okay?
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Has anybody, like, has a therapist called on air yet?
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7170.
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Yeah, yeah.
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8150.
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86 on the 86.
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2112, Jim?
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86, 86.
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Yeah, yeah.
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9-11.
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Yeah.
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No, he's still left to his own devices.
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So, I would generally like to start the week out with the 2009 episode, but if I'm being
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perfectly honest, I'm making progress through those episodes, listening to them, getting
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through it, and he's in a bit of a boring state.
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So, if I were to come to you with the information that I have from the next few days in 2009,
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we'd have kind of a dry, blah, episode.
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And on top of that, I think that right now, we're in a situation where I think everybody
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wants to know what the fuck's going on with him.
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Absolutely.
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And I'll tell you what's going on with him.
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Chinese.
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Not a whole lot.
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For a guy who has been kicked off of everything, more or less, and now is just spinning his
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wheels in this weird state that he's found himself in, it's a bad show.
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He's reeling.
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I don't think so.
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He's just saying the same shit over and over again.
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It's profoundly boring.
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I mean, you nailed it already.
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He's just blaming China, which I mean, he was already doing that before for years.
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Right.
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He's not doing anything new.
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He's not evolving the narrative at all.
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It's all very, very boring.
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Hmm.
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So, I listen to...
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He's phoning it in.
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Yeah, more or less.
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I think he's just waiting for like...
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The guillotine?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then he can pretend it's a noble death or something like that.
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Yeah.
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The political guillotine.
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Right, right.
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Because if Twitter goes, then he's in deep, deep trouble.
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I don't know.
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I read that they're sticking by him pretty hard for no reason anyone can say, considering
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that...
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No reason anyone could even think of.
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No.
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And they even admitted that whenever they said he didn't violate their terms and conditions,
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then people brought up all those tweets and they're like, okay, so yeah, he did, but we're
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still not going to kick him off.
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Right.
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Actually, Alex has a theory about why he hasn't been kicked off Twitter, which we'll get to
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in a little bit.
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But if he doesn't stay on Twitter, then Periscope is gone.
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And that's going to be a huge amount of his ability to live stream things on the internet.
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There are other options.
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There's like all those other right wing or even just lesser things.
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I don't mean lesser, but there's less people who watch like Daily Motion or something like
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that.
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But there are those secondary video streaming services and he could do any of those things.
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Has he been kicked off Google Plus yet?
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I don't know.
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No one knows what's going on in Google Plus.
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He could stream on LinkedIn.
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He could stream on LinkedIn.
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Sure.
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Can you?
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I don't know.
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I've never been on it.
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Me neither.
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But he's you'd think that he should be a little bit more like.
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Fired up.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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But this is rallying the troops.
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He's not.
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And I'll say that I listened to the August 9th episode and it was incredibly boring and
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I wouldn't be going over it except for things like this that he says, but they want to arrest
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the former mayor of London, who's a liberal, because he said there's people's burkas everywhere.
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That's not good in the Western society.
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Where are the feminists?
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They're looking at arresting him.
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I have the articles.
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At this point, Alex pulls up an article about how they aren't going to arrest Boris Johnson
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for his anti-Muslim comments.
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All right.
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So then he has to scramble.
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First they were saying it was a criminal offense.
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Another saying it isn't.
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This is their intimidation.
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I was in a cheesecake factory and women came in in the beekeeper suits.
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Scared the hell out of me.
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I had three daughters.
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They're over there with me.
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They're like, Dad, what's that woman was getting food and eating under a deal.
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She's a slave under Sharia.
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So now we can add all the weights.
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What did he?
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I did not know what he was talking about until the later contact.
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I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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That's one of his really insulting things that he said.
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That's pretty insulting.
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Yeah.
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Pretty crazy.
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But also now we can add cheesecake factory to the pool supply shop at the place where
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Alex does not think Muslim women belong.
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That scares to see them there in any way.
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That's pathetic.
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All I hear there is like, that's you, dude.
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That's so weird.
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In his defense, I do think a lot of people view the cheesecake factory as the last great
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white bastion.
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The bastion of freedom.
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Exactly.
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I don't disagree.
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For white people specifically.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Nobody else can tolerate that sort of bullshit.
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No.
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It's terrible.
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I will say that I live in a neighborhood in Chicago that has a pretty diverse population
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and there are a lot of people who walk around in hijabs or even burkas.
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And I don't think, I don't have a second thought about it.
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Yeah.
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I walk by and I give the head nod that I give to everybody that I walk past in my social
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life.
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I can't imagine what, well actually I can.
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It's just bigotry.
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But other than that, I can't imagine a rational reason to be like, I'm scared to see these
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people in public.
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Boycotting the fabric industry because they're using more fabric than me.
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The Middle East has had the textile market corner for centuries.
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For too long.
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That's where the whole burka thing started.
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They were just like, we have so much fabric.
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Excessive amounts of fabric.
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So the issue that it comes down to, and actually I found this awesome article on Vox that I'll
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get to a little bit of what, there's a great response to this.
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But Boris Johnson was talking about Muslims wearing coverings.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He said some racist things and then he refused to take them back.
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Well, because there's that whole attempting to ban burkas, what have you.
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And his comment was, quote, if you say that it's weird and bullying to expect women to
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cover their faces, then I totally agree.
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I would go further and say that it's absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go
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around looking like letterboxes.
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He also said that if, quote, a female student turned up at school or at a university lecture
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looking like a bank robber, he would ask her to remove her face covering in order to speak
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to him.
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He added that humans, quote, must be able to see each other's faces.
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So people came to his aid somewhat, people on his side, because this one guy, Ian Martin,
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he commented that, quote, he tweeted this out, many reasons to dislike the burka, but
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disrespect of the deaf who often need to see faces to follow communication always high
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on the list.
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Wow.
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So that is a take in that is a hot fucking take.
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Whoa.
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In response.
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Do you know why we have to ban burkas because the deaf can't read your lips, assholes.
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Some good responses to this people just clowning on him after that on Twitter.
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This one person wrote as a deaf person, I kindly ask you not to speak for me.
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I do not find it disrespectful and encourage those to wear and be able to wear whatever
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they want to choose.
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It's their face and their right to cover it.
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It's weird how she ended that with also, I don't even like those people, which is like,
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wait, I like where you're I don't know which team I'm on here.
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Josh Underscore Salisbury came in with, you know who else covers their face and make it
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hard to lip read?
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Literally any man with a beard.
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I welcome you all to go clean chafing out of respect for the deaf and hard of hearing
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people.
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Michael Unakey came in with, I'm a deaf writer.
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I've interviewed Muslims and I've asked that very question about the burka.
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Their response was simple.
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We will find a way to help you communicate.
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So that's nice.
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Yeah, that's pretty much I believe the general feel of it.
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So this is what Boris Johnson isn't getting in trouble for.
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And Alex is responding to to the point where he has to say, I don't want to see any Muslims
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in a cheesecake factory.
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Right.
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Cool.
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You know, the thing about what Boris Johnson said is that it's dumb, even if you let go
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of the bigotry part of it, like the idea that he is saying, I think it's ridiculous that
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people should choose to wear this as is just a farcical thing to say, because look at you.
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You're ridiculous for all the things you choose to do.
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The haircut choice.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Look at your dumb fuck face.
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You choose to continue having that.
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You could get fucking plastic surgery.
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Look at your goddamn clothes.
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You choose to wear those and they're fucking terrible.
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What are you talking about?
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You idiot!
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The Fox article also posted, they had like a really unflattering choice picture of him
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hanging from a zip line.
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Do they mention that at all?
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No, it's it's that picture of him hanging from a zip line with like a helmet on.
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Yeah.
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And it's like really bunching up all his clothes.
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It's Boris Johnson who is clearly concerned with not looking ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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OK, there we go.
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I was going to say I was I was hoping they would just put that there with no comment
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at all.
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You guys make your own decisions about who looks ridiculous here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But Alex, that's just straight up that's just straight up bigotry.
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That's all that is.
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And you trying to put it off on you have daughters.
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That's not that that's not fair.
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That's stupid.
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You're using them as a as a as a prop.
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Well he was trying to teach them to lip read at the time.
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That might be.
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In the Cheesecake Factory.
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He don't know if his daughters are deaf.
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That's a good point.
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That.
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There we go.
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Anyway, his son better not grow a beard.
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I'm not going to shave mine.
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But Alex on the 9th also had some other big, huge news that actually is like, hey, Infowars
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is great.
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We're doing awesome.
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Really.
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Imagine where the number one app in news on Android and on Apple.
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Nope.
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And what is their response?
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We're number 30 something now in the world.
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Now, again, when you keep showing from yesterday, it's just a screenshot of trending.
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Go to the actual news.
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We're number one on Apple.
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Pull it up.
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If I get the crew in there, get us together, the new screenshots, please.
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I don't want to keep using the old ones, but you can't use new ones because there aren't
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new ones.
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You were streaming.
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You were number one on trending because of the massive growth that you had.
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Exactly.
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You weren't.
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He was like number three or number five on the other charts.
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And that's still good.
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But if you go and if you go and look at them now, that dropped considerably because those
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algorithms that like iTunes uses in particular, I know this from talking to tons of people
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who do podcasts.
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If you see a massive spike in growth, you get bumped up the charts because it's something
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that they want people to see.
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It must be something that's gathering a lot of heat.
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Let's put this in front of people's faces.
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So the idea that he's like, he's at the exact right time to say this sort of shit, but even
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right now we're recording this on the 12th.
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It's dropped off.
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And that's exactly what any right thinking person would have predicted.
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There'll be a massive wave of people who were already on board going to it, and then you're
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going to see diminishing returns from there.
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Right.
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Because he has a plateau of actual people who listen.
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Right.
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So they were all people who were like, they were all people who for years were like, how
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do I get apps on my rotary phone?
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Exactly.
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Old man house phone doesn't have an app.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He does now.
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Yeah, he does.
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I think that guy's probably dead.
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We can only hope.
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I feel very sad about that.
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He's got a radio voice anyway.
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That's true.
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You guys do stick together, don't you?
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You know what?
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Birds of a feather.
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Birds of a voice.
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Me, old man, house phone, and that homeless guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The three of us get together.
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The triumvirate.
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We play Super Fight.
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It's a great time.
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Boy, can you imagine those velvety tones arguing?
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Me and that radio guy.
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Oh God.
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It'd be amazing.
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I would listen to that for days.
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So he's trying to get the, he's still aware that people can listen to the podcast even
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if they're not listed on iTunes or anything like that.
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So he's trying to push, migrate people towards the podcast.
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And I'm going to say this.
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I posted this in our group, Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant on Facebook.
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I was trying to find his podcast today because I was trying to find these episodes.
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And if you go to his podcast page on infowars.com, there are five episodes listed.
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All of them are January 1st, 1970, which can't possibly be an episode because he wasn't born.
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He was not alive.
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You know, with the amount of time travel we've talked about on this show, I do not rule out
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him going back in time to when the media landscape was unregulated.
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The wild west.
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And he recorded those podcasts, unfortunately did not realize that the technology necessary
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to listen to them would not exist until much later on.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But way ahead of his time.
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Brilliant.
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Really.
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Love it.
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People talk a lot about Marc Maron and pioneering podcasts.
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Fuck that.
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No.
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AJ all the way.
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AJ.
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So I couldn't find the podcast and that's all good and well because if you just Google
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Alex Jones and then a specific date, look in the video section, you'll find an unmarked
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video of the entire episode.
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People are just going to keep doing that.
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But the real fun of it was, this was a couple of days ago and the episode had a hundred
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hits.
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Ooh.
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Ooh.
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You start to get the sense of like who is really searching this out in various places.
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It's probably way less than you think.
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But I still can't find his podcast and there's no way I'm going to subscribe or anything
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like that.
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That's absurd.
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I'm going to clog my phone up with a bunch of Owen Schroyer episodes and shit, war room,
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David Knight.
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No thanks.
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But there's one thing that is a bonus about the podcast.
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What's that info wars.com forward slash show.
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Go subscribe directly to the podcast.
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It's free, free, it's free, it's free, it's free.
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Hear what you're not supposed to hear and once you download it on Android or app, tell
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folks about it.
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And importantly, in full wars.com four slash show, David Knight's program, Roger Stone
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and Owen Schroyer's war room, my broadcast.
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It's all there.
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And then finally, the biggest thing at the end of the day that fights the bullies, that
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fights the tyrants, that fights the control freaks is what you do when you support us
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financially.
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You get great products at the same time.
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You can make a straight donation at info wars.com.
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The rare double ad to the ad pivot.
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It's all that man.
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It is all that.
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It's all ads.
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So much.
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Please find us and listen to us.
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I am not going to put out a great product for you to listen to until you all find us
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and listen to us.
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More or less.
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I mean, it's a lot of fucking selling.
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It's a lot of selling.
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It's a lot of blame the Chinese.
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So at this point, he does like a good five minutes of talking about like how great colloidal
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silver is, how great B12 is or whatever and it gets to the end of the commercial.
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And I keep this in only for what he says after the end of the commercial.
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But do know this is after minutes of talking about his products.
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A lot of these products are 1995 summer nine ninety five.
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But DNA force is something special and we buy a lot more of it.
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We're able to lower the price of it from one hundred and forty dollars to normally ninety
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nine dollars.
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But right now it is seventy dollars and info war store dot com from fours live dot com
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or triple a two five three three one three nine.
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They think America's going down without a fight.
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They think they're going to just push us aside easily.
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No, we have victory in our blood.
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We have destiny in our heart.
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We have will in our soul and we will never back down and never get in.
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In fact, as they can see, the war hammer's ready.
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We are energizing towards the main collision.
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It's good timing.
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It's good timing.
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I just hear not just do we just get the three hundred speech and then it ended with that's
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the part of the doo ha.
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But like, dude, all I hear there is fucking artificial excitement.
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I hear is you can't like ramp yourself up that quickly from look, this product is seventy
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dollars, but it's really good.
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You should probably get it.
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It's so fake.
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It's just so performative.
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We have discussed it.
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We have so much victory in our blood.
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We're some silver in there.
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You're doing a going out of business sale where our products are 50 percent off.
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That means that like all mattress stores, we're going to be in business forever.
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I don't know if I have the clip in one of the clips that I have, but there's a part
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where he's like, you know, like, you know, most of the store is free shipping.
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Fuck it.
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Free shipping on everything.
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Oh, you're a used car dealer now.
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This isn't bad.
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This is real bad.
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But the other thing, too, is even in his diminished state and, you know, the place that he's in
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and how laughable all this is and how naked that Islamophobia is that he's manifesting.
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When he says stuff like we're ramping up to the final collision, if you're on board with
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him, that's the sort of thing that's really going to stick in your craw.
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That's the sort of thing that's going to be like, I better get my guns ready.
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I better be ready whenever because they've been listening to him forever and he's like,
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it's not time for offensive violence or whatever.
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They're expecting him to eventually come to a more like outside.
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Yeah.
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And so it's when he says we're ramping up for the final collision, it's almost impossible
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not to think that that means we've got to take back the republic like we've been trying
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to with the information war.
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But now the information war is no good because all these Chinese people are against us.
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That's what happens.
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It's it's dangerous.
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It's just even even with much less penetration into the market and stuff like that, that
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sort of rhetoric is still fucking gross and dangerous.
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All I can say to that is, uh, he actually did play that as intro music one of these
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days.
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And he's like, maybe we should call this the final countdown.
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I thought he was going to call it the final collision and he was just the final collision.
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He hates that song, though, because it's by the band Europe.
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Yeah, and he's like that band is trying to take away other bands, national sovereign.
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That sounds right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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Like I don't think he's wrong, though.
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They have been going after.
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Yes.
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For 30 years.
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You should have said Berlin, one of those actual it's not a country, but still air France,
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the orchestra, bow, bab.
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America.
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Oh, of course.
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That was obvious.
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How did we miss that one?
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Europe, the staunch enemies of the human league.
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They're actually they're not ready to take on America.
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They're just starting with Kansas.
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That's their.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, they could have been starting with Chicago.
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Maybe they already got Chicago and they moved up to Kansas.
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Yeah.
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Chicago classically globalist band, no non globalist band would have that.
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No Americana band would have that kind of feisty hornwork.
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Did you just say feisty hornwork?
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I did.
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Have you ever listened to 25 or 64?
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I have not.
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Feisty hornwork.
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I have not.
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I have not heard hornwork be described as feisty before.
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I like that.
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So it's it's it's hornwork that's looking for a fight.
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Feisty.
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Yeah.
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It's not looking for a fight.
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It's the wild little, you know, it's a little crazy.
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It's just feisty mean looking for a fight.
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A little bit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It has it has a little bit.
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It's taken on a different it's it's a broader.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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It has a bit more of a connotation to it than a definition, I suppose.
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I see the hornwork that I'm describing as being more playful and a little a little restless.
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OK.
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Anyway, let's get off.
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Let's get off this.
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So let's pull up the OED.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Let's get this settled once and for all.
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These are the only things that I really thought were interesting that I listened to on the
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ninth.
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And so I'm like, shit, I got to listen to the tenth now because I got to I mean, I have
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to find something that's not an episode.
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No.
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And granted, we could just cover over and over again him talking about the Chai comms
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and shit like that.
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But I'm good.
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What's the point?
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Yeah, I feel like we nailed that.
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So I listened to the tenth as much as I could.
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I'll say that.
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Oh, no.
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I didn't end the episode because I was like, you know, in the same way that a couple of
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times in the past I've been like, I can't take this anymore.
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Yeah.
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This is gross or whatever.
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Yeah.
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It was more just like I don't have the time for this.
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I just listen to hours and hours of other shit.
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I don't have the time to know where you're going with this, Alex.
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I don't have the time.
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And it was just so boring.
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But there are a couple of things that are worth mentioning and a couple.
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There's a real serious trend in this the period that I listen to that I think it worries me
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in much the same way that that final collision outro from from this episode did.
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I think there's stuff to be worried about.
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But Alex starts our exploration of August 10th, 2018 with talking a little bit about
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David Hogg.
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What?
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By the way, there's more info out there from CNET News and all of them.
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I noticed that CNN, the web cops, the racketeers that spend all their time trying to get everybody
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deplatformed to shut down conservative, nationalist, pro-Trump speech ahead of the midterms.
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I noticed yesterday they were doing reports on things out of context.
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I said out about David Hogg and about Parkland and about other events.
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And I just said, delete that stuff.
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It's not even they're twisting what I said, but just just to take the super high road,
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delete it.
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The super high road.
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Turns into Twitter finally took action and took down the evil tweets of Alex Jones.
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David Hogg was wearing a literal armband and posing for it, saluting with his fist up on
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the air, calling for gun confiscation.
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And people were calling that Nazi.
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And I said, well, it sure looks like that, but it doesn't matter.
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The left calls people Nazis all the time.
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Generally, when they hang out with Nazis or when they are Nazis.
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Yeah.
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Those sort of things.
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Right.
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So Alex is trying to present this as a thing where CNN comes out with this article about
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all the times that he did, in fact, breach Twitter's policies.
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Yeah, of course.
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And point out, oh, Twitter, you say that you would ban him if he broke your rules.
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Here are all the times he broke your rules.
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Right.
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And so he is response on his show.
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Instead of dealing with that, what he says is like, I won't say and all this David Hogg
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stuff.
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I was like, look, they're going to misinterpret that.
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Just fucking take it down.
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I'm going to take the super high road about this.
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Like, no, you're not.
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You're scared.
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You are fucking so scared that they're going to get rid of your Twitter.
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Yeah.
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If they take him off Twitter, he's been effectively banished.
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It's a mess.
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He still has his site.
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And if what his site is doing is good and people want it, you don't need Facebook and
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Twitter.
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You really don't.
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Because if you have an audience of what he pretends is tens and tens of millions of people.
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He pretends it's two billion people.
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Wow.
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That's a whole other thing.
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That was just one ad that he cut.
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Oh, OK.
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All right.
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He said it was a tenth of the world.
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No.
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No.
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But even if you have millions or tens of millions of listeners, if what you're doing
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is quality and people will respond to it, then you don't need anything other than the
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platform which you're putting it out on.
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Because word of mouth will naturally spread it and people will be like, oh, my God, this
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is really awesome.
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And they'll tell their friends about it.
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There's a natural growth to things that are decent.
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And you don't necessarily need those platforms.
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And so what he's doing does need those platforms, though, because it's based on immediacy.
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It's based on deceit.
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It's based on getting it.
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What he does is the journalistic equivalent of a smash and grab robbery.
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Because by the time the truth is all sort of discussed, he's already come up with an
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inflammatory narrative about it.
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And that is just going to resonate with people who listen to him.
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It's a common sense, calm down kind of sense.
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It's not going to matter.
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He needs the immediacy of social networks like Twitter and Facebook in order to get
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people riled up with his immediate narrative.
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And if he doesn't do that, then people will listen to his show a day later and his narratives
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will already be soiled.
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The other thing that he needs is the backlash.
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And if people aren't paying attention, if his voice isn't amplified enough for media
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matters or CNN or somebody to be like, if he falls off their radar, then he doesn't
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have the reactionary elements either.
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And that's actually really interesting, because I think that a lot of those places are going
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to I don't know, I'm not sure if they have already, but they're going to get shudder.
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They're going to get to the point where they're like, we don't care about covering Alex anymore.
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Too small.
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And Alex is already preemptively creating a narrative about that.
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He's saying now that they've taken me down, what they're going to do is start going after
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Steven Crowder, who is a guy, you know, I'm fine with that.
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Right.
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But I don't know who he is, but I'm fine with it.
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Right.
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But that's the that's the way of justifying why no one cares to talk about him anymore
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is like, oh, yeah, they they're done with me.
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Now they're moving on to their next hit piece, hit target or whatever.
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Like, man, that's why they don't talk about us.
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Well, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I lost my train of thought.
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We need to start some shit with a conservative blog and then get our own reactionary.
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Yes.
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That's what we got to do.
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Let's try and troll the blaze.
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Yeah.
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Let's get them.
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Let's get Glenn back after us.
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We can reach rapprochement.
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I'm sick.
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I'm sick of him not getting after us.
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He could cry on our show in a sweater.
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It would be great.
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That would be great.
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Yeah.
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Would he wear a tie underneath the sweater?
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He might wear a tie, but I'll tell you what.
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He's not going to wear an armband because that's what people like David Hogg wear.
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Oh, Nazis.
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People who call other people Nazis.
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That's what they do.
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That's their trick.
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So, Jordan, did you know that Nazis are not the only people who ever used an armband as
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an accessory or to make a statement?
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In fact, it's one of the most common things ever.
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Football players commonly wear branded armbands to fulfill sponsorship deals that they couldn't
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otherwise because they're not allowed to alter their jerseys.
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In soccer, they often use armbands to denote who the team captain is.
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Seems Nazi-like.
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Going back to as far as the late 1700s, the wearing of a black armband has been a symbol
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of mourning, which I think is a very easy leap to make, and you can make a strong argument
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that David Hogg and his fellow students were deeply in mourning.
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Hmm.
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You know, the Nazis used to mourn.
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Oh, yeah, they did.
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Further, there's a rich history of black armbands also being used as a sign of protest.
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For example, on December 16th, 1965, John Hinker, 15 years old, Mary Beth Hinker, 13
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years old, and Christopher Eckhart, 16 years old, wore black armbands to school to symbolize
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their opposition to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
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They got suspended and then sued the school, leading to Hinker v. Des Moines Independent
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Community School District 393, which resulted in the Supreme Court deciding that the school
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violated the students' free speech by suspending them for wearing their armbands.
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Yeah, duh.
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You could also make a really strong argument that David Hogg and the fellow students wearing
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armbands, particularly black armbands, might be harkening back to this sort of history.
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Black armband activism, mourning, all of those things come into play altogether, where a
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black armband is almost the perfect thing for David Hogg to be wearing.
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Right.
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Now, further, there's a famous expression coined by historian Jeffrey Blaney that is,
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quote, the black armband view of history, which refers to views of history that suggest
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that, quote, much of pre-multicultural Australian history had been a disgrace, largely relating
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to the horrible treatment of minorities, namely the Aborigines.
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Don't think of any parallels.
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So I'm just saying that there's a lot of black armbands throughout history.
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Nazis used to have students, too, Dan.
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Sure.
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Did any of them?
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Eh, some probably protested.
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Nah.
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They didn't get suspended, though.
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They probably got killed.
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Who knew?
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Yeah.
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They probably murdered.
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The biggest issue I have is all of this makes perfect sense if you just take a little bit
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of time to look at it.
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Just take a little time.
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What is the history of a black armband?
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Is it always the Waffen SS?
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It's only the Nazi youth, right?
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It's not.
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It's really not.
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There's a lot of history to black armbands about student activism and mourning, which
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are very relevant.
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And then on top of that, Alex, when the other side is calling people Nazis, I do agree that
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sometimes it's a little bit too capriciously thrown around, but I don't remember who made
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this argument.
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Godwin.
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It's not really a very famous argument, but if you are hanging out with a Nazi, you're
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a Nazi.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That just sort of like, if you are in a group of people and a Nazi is there and they aren't
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thrown out, you are now in a group of Nazis.
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Pretty much.
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If you tolerate Nazis, you are a Nazi, you son of a bitch.
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So let's broaden that.
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What party is totally cool with Nazis and elected one of them to the White House?
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Boy.
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If you are, let's say, a member of a certain political party and you go to a rally put
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together by, let's call it the leader of the free world.
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And he espouses Nazi beliefs and his dad is a Nazi and his grandfather is a Nazi.
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It's entirely possible, and in fact probable, that if you turn and look around, one out
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of every eight people is going to be a Nazi.
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So that kind of makes all of you Nazis, right?
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Right.
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So it's almost like we have a Nazi party.
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Would you call them the right?
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You could call them the right.
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I don't know.
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It's, yeah.
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At least they're not socialists.
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Amen, brother.
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So in this next clip, Alex has a plan for what he's going to do in order to get his
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own version of rapprochement.
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I got to stop using that word.
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You love using that word, though.
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It's a fun word.
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I love it.
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He wants.
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You should go back to detente.
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I would prefer that.
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Well, it's different, though, because he wants something.
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You know, detente is just sort of like a calming of the stroke.
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It's an armistice.
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Yes.
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Where rapprochement is where you give and give.
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It's an agreement.
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You give and give.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's a compromise.
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And Alex thinks that he's going to get something out of this next plan, and the only thing
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he's going to get out of it is probably me seeing some fucking awesome shit on C-SPAN.
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So I have requested and I'm going to read this statement when we come back from break.
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I'm going to read it when we come back from break.
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My statement calling for hearings in Congress and I.
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Demand respectfully that I be able to be at those hearings and be able to lay out what's
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really happened because I've been demonized and I've been lied about and they've done
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all these horrible things that I need to be able to sit there as an American, as my birthright
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and do that.
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Is that your birthright?
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It's not.
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But man, I would love it.
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This is never going to happen, but I would love it if they ended up having congressional
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hearings and that.
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Alex had to.
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You must watch TV for C-SPAN.
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Can you imagine what you would see?
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Like you would have like conservative Republican senators, Congress people who are like, what
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do we do?
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Because like their default position should probably be like, we got to try and help him.
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But then they know.
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Excuse me.
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Alex Jones, could you give at least some differences between you and Nazi propagandist Goebbels?
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I have a beard now.
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OK.
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Well, there we go.
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I think we can end this hearing.
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Right, everybody?
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Everybody different.
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Can we end this hearing?
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Did Goebbels ever have a victory beard?
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Did Goebbels sell supplements?
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Good point.
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That is a good point.
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Good point.
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Goebbels, Goebbels was not necessarily as economically invested in his propaganda as
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you are.
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I'm not sure that I fully articulated what I mean, but I think it would be fascinating
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to see if Alex Jones crosses the line that which they will defend.
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You know, like, yeah, a lot of the Republicans in Congress are total shitheads and they've
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just abdicated any responsibility of doing their job.
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Oh, Devin Nunez even gave up the game.
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He was like, the only reason that we need to control the House is because the president
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should be impeached and we're the only ones stopping that from happening.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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And then good work, dude.
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And then you have people like Jim Jordan, who Alex idolizes, and you have people like
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Matt Gaetz, who went on Alex's show and then was like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that.
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That was a mistake.
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I wouldn't go back on that show.
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No.
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But Alex is still like, you know, he still thinks that's an in for him.
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So you have these Republican Congress people, like, would they go to bat for him?
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Are they that craven?
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I want to know that.
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So I do want this congressional hearing to happen.
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Oh, of course.
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Because I think it would be such a zoo.
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And we're past the Mendoza line in terms of being a country anymore.
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Oh, no, it's gone.
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So why not do that?
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Let Alex Jones go to Congress.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It can only hurt him.
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I want him to have his Mr. Smith goes to Washington moment.
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That's what I want.
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I want him to blame the entire system and say that it's entirely broken and really just
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go for it, thinking that he will never actually be kicked out of it.
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Like he's going to be like, well, the rules say that I get to talk as long as I want.
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Right.
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And that's my birthright.
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He's going to turn into that guy with the bolo tie, the the sovereign citizen.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's what he's going to do.
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But also, I think they walk around and they're leaving.
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He's like, I control Congress now.
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They've left the gavel.
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They have abdicated the courtroom.
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I run.
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I am now vice president.
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I would bet anything that his opening statement would be the speech from network like, oh,
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yeah, it would just be, yeah, yeah, yep.
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Just just glory, glory, speech and up there for sure.
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I would love that.
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I know that my default position is always like, don't give him more attention than he
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deserves unless it's in the right, proper, controlled context.
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I believe that.
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I believe Congress is the right, proper, controlled context because there would be
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so many times that, like all of those people have staff, you know, like, yeah, and they
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would they could do the research required in order to get the like gotcha questions
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where it's like, Alex, you did say this.
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Yeah.
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Well, just be he'll be trapped in his web of lies and it would be so embarrassing.
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I would love it.
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Alex, we're going to we're going to play some tapes for you now.
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And then he runs away.
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Wait, is this my custody here?
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That's not allowed there.
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Meet me with kid gloves.
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I can't wait for the Infowars website to like go down, but he's still hosting the domain
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for a while and it just has a blank page that says call Larry Nichols on it.
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Oh, dude.
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That'd be great.
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Oh, dude, dude.
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So good.
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Um, I just recently saw Larry Nichols on another web show like he's I think I think Alex thinks
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that I can't talk to him.
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I don't know why he's not on his show.
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Like I haven't seen him at all, but I saw him on another show.
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And he sounds very different on another show.
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Yeah.
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Is he OK now?
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No, I don't mean that way.
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He still sounds like an old weirdo, but like he said, his rhetoric is very different.
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I saw him on another show and he was not nearly the same, like they're going to take down
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Trump.
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He was clearly doing the character or acting that way to be supplicate supplicating to
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Alex's rhetoric.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was interesting to see like a propagandist.
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I only know from Alex's world in another context, like someone else's show and see how like,
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oh, they get it.
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They get it.
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Yeah.
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They know like they're playing.
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They're all playing the game.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting.
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But, you know, you know, um, you know, the enemy of the American people is, uh, Kevin
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CNN.
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Oh, OK.
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CNN.
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And they're forced down your throat.
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They are.
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They are there with their with their TV network that they own and broadcast from forced down
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your fucking throat and have broadcast from since the 60s.
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Well, Alex might make a decent point here and let's let's let him speak his piece.
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We're number one with a three year three week old app and they're a joke and all their billions
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of dollars and all the money they get from Gulf state dictators and communist China and
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all the things they've done.
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People can't stand them.
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They have to pay to be on airports and pay to be on in bars.
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Just really funny here.
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Alex earlier in the show talked about how he had to pay to be on the app.
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So like, all right, whatever you pay to have your app listed.
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Yeah.
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So go fuck off with that logic and pay to be on everywhere.
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Very offensive.
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I was in the Trump hotel, beautiful, nice hotel and the old post office there in D.C.
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few months ago.
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And there was CNN on on the big television over the bar.
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I was going to throw up.
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I just can't get away from it.
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It's all force fed, force fed.
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You know what's really fun about that?
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There's a look in his face where he brings up the example that he has of seeing CNN somewhere
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and it happens to be the Trump hotel.
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So he's he's scrambling in his mind to be like, I can't shit on the Trump hotel.
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Right.
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Because I got to love this guy.
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And they don't take money from CNN or I better not insinuate that they do, which he accidentally
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is doing pretty much exactly.
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It's Trump's hotel.
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He could play whatever the fuck he wants there.
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Pretty much apparently choose a CNN because it's the most palatable news, better than
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Fox News.
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You know, it's far less inflammatory.
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Yeah.
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If you want some run of the mill shit, that's probably what you're going to choose.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that's based on a contract, but if it is that Trump's making money off
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that pretty much.
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So I love that.
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That's his example that he comes up with, man.
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Do better.
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Do better.
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Also, so bad.
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That's shit broadcasting, bro.
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Like just say the gym, just say anywhere your local, like you could have said the cheesecake
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factory could have, could have said a bar you were at, could say a restaurant, anything.
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He chose anything.
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Trump hotel.
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Anything.
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The one thing that came to his mind, what a fucking idiot, he's not great on the spot.
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I'm not going to lie to you, one thing where your guy could change that is your example
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with an email.
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Yeah.
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It wouldn't even take long.
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No, he couldn't even tweet at his own hotel.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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A hundred percent.
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No more CNN in my hotel.
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Hey, stop, stop playing CNN at Trump tower and they wouldn't, they wouldn't.
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And it's done.
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Yeah.
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Problem solved.
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And he said a few months ago, so it's after Trump is already saying that they're the enemy
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of the American people.
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Of course.
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It's all fucking joke.
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I'm not an idiot.
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People are all fucking jokes.
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So, um, one thing that's-
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And so are we because of them?
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One thing that's not a joke, bro.
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What's that?
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Kevin?
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Outrage in the streets.
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Okay.
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There's, uh, Antifa is out there hitting people with stuff.
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Oh, Antifa.
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They are definitely responsible for the most recent murder of, of, uh, no, oh no, that's
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right.
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At protests, the murders and the violence were more from the Nazis.
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Or that one guy who just fired a shot into, uh, into the ether out of nowhere and pretended
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he didn't.
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That guy wasn't Antifa.
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Antifa.
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No, no, no.
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Oh no, he wasn't Antifa?
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Has Antifa-
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Or based stick man who's only famous because he snuck sticks into a protest and hit people
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with them.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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That wasn't, that wasn't Antifa.
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Oh, oh, uh, the, the, the guys wearing riot gear who specifically targeted the anti, Antifa
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protesters and left the white supremacists, uh, to their own devices.
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They were-
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The cops?
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Oh no, they weren't Antifa, were they?
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No, no, no.
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No, they were the cops.
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Oh, or all the, uh, people on the right who have now realized that they can make themselves
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look like Antifa people by covering their faces and stuff and have now used that as
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a tactic in order to hit people with impunity.
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Right, and then they would be blamed upon it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um, all that stuff is, you know, that's a consideration, but Alex has documents.
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Oh, okay.
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Nevermind that.
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The US Capitol ramping up security ahead of white nationalist rallies, and they got the
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one year anniversary of Charlottesville coming up with the police corralled the alt-right
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people right into the Antifa so the explosion could happen.
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And by Soros funding that, he's partially the blame for the poor woman that died.
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That turned into them spinning it and saying that I said the CIA staged it and that some
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photographer staged it when that's not what I said.
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They just twisted that and sued me for that.
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Everybody knows that in Portland and in San Francisco and in Charlottesville and in Maryland,
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the police have stood down.
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We even have the documents in Maryland, in Baltimore, where the Antifa was working with
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them and even had designated areas they were allowed to protest and engage in violence
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and even throw things at police as part of an attempt to escalate the general public
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into rioting to bring in a civil emergency for Obama.
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But the plan failed.
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Or that was made up in the Cops Just Fire tear gas industry.
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Or search engine it.
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2015 plan to bring in martial law for Obama.
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Show 2015 plan to bring in civil emergency and martial law in Maryland.
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Read the documents for yourself and that's why they want to shut down.
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I've read the documents.
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These are the fake ones you found on 4chan.
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You are just reporting all of this.
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That entire last minute and a half is all him just rambling and expounding and expanding
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what he's trying to say based on those fake contracts that we clowned on for about half
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an hour.
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It's a nonsense idea that anyone would make a contract for that bullshit.
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Yeah, no, of course.
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You want to sign your name to that.
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Ridiculous.
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No, it makes perfect sense.
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So fucking stupid and fake.
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It's absurd.
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Any right thinking person would look at them, like maybe try and figure out where did these
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come from?
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What's the backstory of these?
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Start to smell a little bit, oh, that smells like bullshit.
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Oh, this is one of those classic internet hoaxes.
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Grade A bullshit.
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I mean, he has for a long time, but he's still reporting it as truth.
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He's reporting it as real, that there are contracts between Soros connected organizations
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at Antifa in order to create martial law.
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It's not real.
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It's crazy.
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I mean, I don't, we've already talked about this.
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There's no reason to dissect it further, but it's nice.
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It's nice to know this much.
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You hear this and you're like, ah, that's what you're talking about.
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You stupid fuck, you stupid asshole.
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But to address one point of what he said, which is that the cops were funneling the
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white supremacist.
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Right.
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That's Millie Weaver's narrative.
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Right, right, right.
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So they're funneling them to make the explosions happen, right?
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That then suggests that the cops know that one side is going to murder the other side
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and they know which side and they, so even then what he's implying is that his people
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are murderers and they were being pushed towards the Antifa specifically to commit the crimes
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that they wanted to commit in the first place.
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Well, now Alex would argue that they would not have committed those murders if Antifa
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hadn't been so goddamn annoying or something like that, like agitating them to the point
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of committing a murder.
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I don't know if that's still okay.
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It's not, but it works.
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I'm pretty sure that that's not a defense in court is like, oh, they didn't believe
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the same thing I do.
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It works for him.
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I mean, I've watched the videos that Millie Weaver's put out and I've seen the arguments
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that are made about the police intentionally corralling people.
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I mean, I wasn't there, so I don't think that I have the right to make a definitive statement
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or anything like that.
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It would be foolish of me, but based on the evidence that I've seen, I don't buy it.
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I don't buy that narrative.
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I know that from everything I know about these groups, somebody would have found the other
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one.
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Whether it's Antifa finding the fascists and the Nazis or the Nazis finding them, it would
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have ended up happening at some point.
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And if they want to brawl, they're going to brawl.
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And one side wants to murder and the other side doesn't want to murder.
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One wants to stop people from doing that.
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One is anti the part, the part that murders people.
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But this is where it gets all twisted with Alex and his world is that like they label
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themselves as anti-fascist, but that's because they're fascists.
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And these people are being called fascists, like the Nazis and the legitimate Nazi groups
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that are there.
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They're being labeled that because they're actually anti-fascism.
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They're anti the fascism of the anti-fascism groups.
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But it's so frustrating because that's what he does all the time.
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Right.
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It's a mess.
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Also, you know, the other thing that you could say if you were going to say that is not that
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the cops were funneling them towards the Antifa in order to cause an explosion, it's because
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the cops, as we now know, are essentially an arm of the white nationalist movement.
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So maybe they were funneling them towards them.
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So the cops didn't have to murder anybody and they could get them to do their dirty
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work for them.
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Because as we know, the cops love murdering people.
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Let identity Europa be on the hook for this one instead of us.
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Yeah.
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We're going to get our no more video of cops beating up unarmed black people for no reason.
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That's going to cut into our overtime.
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Let's let this guy with a stupid shield do it for us.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I don't know.
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In this next clip, Alex does not understand what's happening to him.
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And he unfortunately sort of conflates it with other issues.
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This is this to me is like real strong evidence of just a dumb dumb.
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This is just very dumb.
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Not only is CNN a propped up, failed anti-free speech, anti-American engine of lies that
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murder the truth.
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They're now out murdering free speech and murdering other people's ideas and engaged
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in classic racketeering like the brown shirts in Nazi Germany, working in concert to go
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around to private companies and try to have us deplatformed from basic services.
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But you better bake that gay cake, OK?
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And I don't get.
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My electricity next, I guess, for sure, that that tracks that last couple of minutes, he
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just disgracefully combined so many different issues, like in terms of what's going on.
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The reason with the cake is because of protected classes.
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That's a whole different thing.
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If you want to argue against the Civil Rights Act, that is in your libertarian right to
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do.
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You are very welcome to do that, but you're also going to have to say that black people
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should not be allowed places because that if you want to get rid of protected classes,
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you are against the Civil Rights Act.
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Go for it.
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That libertarians should be.
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But if they want to make that argument, my religion does not acknowledge that gay people
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are people.
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And as I'm sure you know, there's a difference between gay people and black people, because
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obviously my religion has never supported the slavery.
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Oh, they they did, didn't they?
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But it also doesn't matter what your religion necessarily believes.
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No, of course.
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It's about the person, the person whose rights are either being acknowledged or violated.
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So then beyond that, the idea that, like, oh, now my electricity is going to be shut
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off.
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No.
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I think we have some liberals to thank for that kind of a very progressive world view,
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because the capitalists have to do it.
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They have shut off electricity and they have murdered people because of Alex.
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If you get your druthers, your electricity will be shut off.
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Yeah.
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You will be in a jeopardy situation like that.
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And you will freeze to death like multiple old women have in the past.
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And as Alex has complained about in the past, while never wrestling with the why is the
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that a problem?
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Yeah.
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So to me, this is so crazy, because all it is, is he's being punished for his behavior
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in a in a media space and he's comparing it to the gay cake situation, which the cake
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wasn't gay, but also it does sound like the one thing that he said that I imagine that
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winding up on by the way, those are my stand up jobs coming back.
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Perfect.
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Yeah.
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Perfect.
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I imagine that being that being a phrase on like the Great British Bake Off is, hey, you
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better make that gay cake.
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Well, that just means happy to them.
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Yeah.
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But the fact means cigarette.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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So that conflating that with his situation and then further conflating it with the idea
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of like utility monopolies.
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That's crazy to me, like it's straight up crazy.
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And I know that at the beginning of the show, I said that if he gets off Twitter, he's fucked
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like in terms of his ability to reach people.
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But I don't think that is because he does like there is a monopoly of the public space
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on Facebook and Twitter and stuff like that.
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Right.
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I don't believe that that that's relevant to the question at all.
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He's fucked because he needs those and he is he's not entitled to have them.
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He needs them because of what he does.
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It's not like he's almost making the argument that they're a public utility and they should
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be regulated.
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He does make that argument.
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But then what is he doing?
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What do you mean?
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How is he able to then say that they should be regulated?
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His entire position is if it even is a public utility.
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We've talked about that before.
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Now, he does.
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He hates monopolies and stuff like that.
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So he believes that they have a monopoly over the public space.
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Yeah, but he hates regulation.
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Of course.
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Sure.
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He hates regulation.
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He hates regulation in terms of like, don't tell farmers what to do or whatever.
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But he doesn't mind regulation in terms of monopoly capitalism.
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So it is a weird line to draw, but it does bear mentioning.
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The only reason I bring this up is because even that said, which I agree with him, monopolies
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are terrible.
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I don't think they have a monopoly.
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We've had that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We've had this discussion over and over again.
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We have come to rapprochement with it.
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If you do believe that, good for you, that's your business.
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That means something about you.
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That is not about Twitter or Facebook.
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You don't have either, really.
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No, I got rid of them.
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I have like, I'm on Facebook only for the group, the go home and tell your mother you're
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brilliant.
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And if I disappeared from that, that would still exist and it would be whatever.
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But it doesn't help that much.
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I haven't posted on Facebook in maybe a year.
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Maybe a year I haven't posted it on Facebook.
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I haven't looked at anybody else's posts.
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What'd you post on Facebook?
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I think the last time we had a live show in Chicago, I posted that.
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Maybe when we had a live show in Texas, so that was a couple of years ago or a couple
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months ago.
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I think I might've posted something like, hey, if you're in Texas, but like even that,
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I'm like, eight people will see this?
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It gives a shit.
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I haven't posted on our Twitter or my Twitter in for fucking ever.
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We haven't reached anybody with that stuff.
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I don't think you need it necessarily.
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You do something and people like it or they don't.
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Like if it works for us, it would work for Alex.
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Our numbers are going very high up.
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We're on equal playing field at this point, right?
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We have podcasts.
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Yes.
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We're both tied, except we still have YouTube videos up.
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That's true.
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They're old, but they're up.
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It's punching upwards still for us to attack Alex.
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For a period of time and it's slowly punching on a level playing field.
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All that stuff about regulation aside, did we get to the bottom of that?
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What was the bottom of that?
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Well, the only thing I'm sort of concerned about is I feel like you were a little confused
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that Alex would be for utility monopolies.
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Yes.
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We got to the bottom of that.
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In this next clip, we enter a period of this show that I think is profoundly fucked up
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and dangerous.
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I'll just say it.
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I think this is dangerous.
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Burn down cheesecake factories.
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He loves cheesecake factories.
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Not if there are Muslims in there.
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You don't lose the factory for the Muslims.
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Don't lose the baby with the bath water, as they say.
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No, it's worse than that and we'll get into it in this next clip.
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Here's the big enchilada.
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Let me come back.
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I'm going to say it.
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I should have started the show with this.
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This is the big, big, big issue that hit me so hard last week and hit me again this morning
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when I was really cogitating and think word of a day calendar bees cogitating, cogitating,
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thinking deeply about this.
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They're going to make their move on Trump the next three months.
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They're making their move on free speech now.
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This is unprecedented.
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They've been making their move criminality that we're witnessing and that signifies that
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they are getting ready to make their move in a big way.
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Now, some of the things you can do to counter them in full wars dot com.
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Nice.
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Nice.
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All right.
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Nice.
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Some of the things you can counter them by our products and then they won't make their
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move on Trump.
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I'll be honest.
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I think I think that there's still some fun stuff to discuss in this.
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But like, just like a my response to Alex since he's been kicked off the air is like
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a sleepy jack off motion, just kind of like, who cares?
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I know what you're doing here.
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You son of a bitch.
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Come on.
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This is ridiculous.
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Come on.
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I know you're just trying to find your way to make people outraged and agitated while
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you cogitate ways to agitate.
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Minus one.
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Let me get away with that.
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I was I was really I was on the fence for a little bit and then I just pulled the trigger.
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It's all just weaving to a plug.
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And now, like the ad pivots are so much more robust because getting people to info wars
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dot com is so much more important.
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So when he says that, like they're going to take out the president in the next three months
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that like him just saying info wars dot com, that's the equivalent of back in the day when
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he'd be like, we got great supplement.
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Yeah, because he needs people to go to info wars.
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Absolutely.
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They've got nowhere else to go.
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Yeah.
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You can't go to.
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Can you share?
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You can share info wars articles on Facebook.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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You can do that.
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He just can't have his own stuff.
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Right.
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You can post their videos on YouTube if you do it sneaky.
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There's still tons of stuff you can find.
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But it is a it is a huge loss for me.
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Not not so much the Alex Jones channel, but that Ron Gibson channel is a huge loss for
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me.
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I wonder how he's doing.
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I hope he's OK.
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But the reason is because he would put out them without the commercials.
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Yeah.
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It was so much less painful to go through this when the commercials were cut out because
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in present day there's no Diamond Gusset.
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There's no.
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No.
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Oh, by the way, shout out.
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I can't remember.
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Damn it.
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I can't remember who it was.
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Someone posted a picture on the Facebook group of somebody actually wearing Diamond Gusset
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jeans.
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He saw someone in the wild and that's why I like that.
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I like that.
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Yep.
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Pretty cool.
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But there weren't.
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There's no ads like that now.
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It's all just like Alex propaganda pieces, like little tiny minute long clips.
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Take it like they're coming for Trump.
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Buy our stuff.
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And also they find the times that Trump uses English properly and like really cut those
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segments out.
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That just takes a lot of editing.
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Yeah.
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But you can do it if you're that motivated.
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And so they do that and, you know, it is what it is, but it's fucking awful.
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And then also the special reports are really hard to find now.
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Whereas Ron gets to always post the special reports or Alex would post them on his channel.
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Right.
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Now I don't even know where the fuck to find any of that.
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Because he doesn't put them on infowars.com, which is, well, we might, but they're all
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labeled January 1st, 1970.
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So I don't know what the fuck to do with any of that.
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I can't find out what happened on January 1st, 1970 I might have to, I might have to
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jump into that.
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I, how does he not, how does he not have a guy who knows what a podcast is?
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Well, I think Kurt Nimmo was like one of his web guys and then he quit a couple of years
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ago, right?
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Of course.
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A year and a half ago or so.
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So I think he might, he can't ask his dad cause his dad is head of HR.
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That'd be, he can't wear two hats.
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Yeah, no.
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I think that he probably has a real brain trust problem.
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You know, I think that, I can't imagine why.
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Well, I think that even if you're like, if you're talented in a technical field, you
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probably wouldn't choose to work for him.
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No.
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Even if the salary is okay, you probably be like, yeah, I'll go somewhere else.
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I can get a little less working somewhere else and not work with you.
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And he can't like lean on one of his listeners to be like an intern or something like that.
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Cause they don't know how to do any of that shit.
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Which is why the podcast is going to fail miserably because again, his listeners are
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dumb.
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You're mostly up to true believers and then hoping some of them are talented and will
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accept whatever salary you may pay them.
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And that's, I mean, that's a bad business model, but enjoy.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, good luck.
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Earlier, I told you Jordan, that Infowars is on Twitter still for one reason and one
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reason only.
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And that Alex says, I'm not sure if this is true, but this is what he says.
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You know why Infowars is still on Twitter, but banned everywhere else by Apple, by Google,
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by Facebook, by Spotify, by Stitcher, by WebChimp, by discussion.
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They even have the Democrats going after our servers, trying to file false reports on those
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to get our servers taken down.
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That's fucking hilarious.
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He doesn't own his own servers.
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This is crazy.
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He doesn't own his own servers.
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He wouldn't be worried.
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He wouldn't be worried.
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I think he's trying to say that they're like, are they trying to, oh, he's not saying that
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they're trying to hack his servers.
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No, he's saying that they want us to be taken down from our servers.
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That implies very heavily that he's vulnerable there.
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Yeah.
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If you don't own your own servers, Alex, you are a fucking idiot.
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Who owns the servers?
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I don't know.
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We got to find out.
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Yeah.
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I, you know, probably someone's figured it out and has sent some emails.
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I don't know, maybe, maybe it is fucking GoDaddy.
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Who knows?
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That'd be hilarious.
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You can go down anytime.
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That's what's happening in America right now.
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The only reason we're still on Twitter is because of this tweet from the president.
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Twitter, shadow banning, prominent Republicans, not good.
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We will look into this discriminatory and illegal practice at once.
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Many complaints.
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I have a number of thoughts about this.
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What?
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It's disappointing that that's the president?
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That was one of them.
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Yeah.
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It was lower on my list, though, than my other thoughts.
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What's that?
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One of them is that, like, if all these other places Alex says was engaging in the exact
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same behavior, places like Facebook, and he's kicked off that, there's no consequences from
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the president.
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That's common sense.
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No.
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So Twitter clearly should get the message that it doesn't really matter that much.
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Facebook hasn't had some sort of punitive thing from the president happen.
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We're probably in the clear.
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Then the second thing, which I think is maybe the biggest issue of them all, is the idea
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that Alex is pitching that the only reason he's still on Twitter is because the president
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of the United States threatened them with a conspiracy theory that he believes in.
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Now, the conspiracy part, we'll leave that aside for a second.
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What's fascism, Jordan?
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Dan, I don't know anymore.
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One of the big definitions is a combination of corporate and state power.
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So the idea that Twitter is kowtowing to a threat from the president to do something
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that they should fucking do, which Alex is almost kind of tacitly admitting there.
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It's like, well, otherwise we would fucking be gone if it wasn't for Trump giving some
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sort of weird threat on the platform about this shadow ban conspiracy that's a whole
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load of horseshit.
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And like that is Alex saying that we are the case is cool, man, this is cool.
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I love the idea of corporations bending to the will of the executive.
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Perfect.
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That's not good.
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Patriots.
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There is no way.
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Patriot fascism is fine, Dan.
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There's no way to splice that clip that makes it OK.
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That is so bad.
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And it would be bad, too, if like it was a Democratic president who would be bad in any
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circumstance.
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Yeah, it's it's probably not good.
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It's probably not good for the president to make threats to a business and then force
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them to do things that he wants.
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My theory is that the reason that he is not kicked off Twitter is because of Trump, but
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not because of like anything that Trump interceding.
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No, not because of that, but because if they kick Alex Jones off for violating their whatever
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policy, then people are going to be like, OK, so you did that.
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You know, the the president has violated your policies many, many times.
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And this is what I've been saying since the jump in terms of like the I support Alex staying
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on things and even stuff he got kicked off of.
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I'm saying I support it.
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I'm glad he's gone.
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But like in terms of what I would advocate for, I would say it's easier to leave him
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on and deal with him a different way than it is to kick him off and then have to abide
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by those rules.
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Because you're right.
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The president is way out of line by the rules.
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Yeah, just from the threatening world leaders.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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We're we're in a better place if Trump gets kicked off Twitter.
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Well, maybe not, because that might force his hand and actually hit a button or something.
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Fair enough.
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But like, yeah, you put yourself in a position with as a social media operation where you
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do this.
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Now you have an expectation that you should live up to it.
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I think that might be what Jack is doing.
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He's doing it terribly.
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It's awful.
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But I think that might be better.
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I haven't heard this what to have rules and then pretend that they to pretend that you
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have rules and then never enforce them.
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I know it's purely it's really like an advertising thing.
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No.
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Well, you should they I mean, that's pretty clear.
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But you should also maybe just be straight up about it because you are like it's a private
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company.
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They'd be totally in their rights to do this.
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We will judge based on who matters.
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Right.
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They could put that into the rules.
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Sure.
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And it would be OK for them to do that.
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They could say, hey, some people they say fucked up stuff, but we can't kick them off.
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That's just part of the rules.
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That would be funny.
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That's a weird rule.
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It would.
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That's so weird.
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That is look bad.
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That is a little bit elitist.
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That is a little bit like my idea for the Constitution, where we add dot dot dot except
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Nazis to everything, though.
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Well, but he would be the same thing like everyone's speech.
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We will judge it.
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Dot dot dot except Nazi.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But like that to me is that that I think.
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I think that there's probably more to this than I'm even getting into, I think a lot
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of it is cowardly damage control.
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You know, like there's a lot of you see over and over and over again, people who have tried
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to report people for threatening violence against them and this is not against our policies.
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And we've seen over and over again, people who made jokes, who are kicked off Twitter
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for generally speaking, it's threats against women aren't taken seriously and women making
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jokes get them kicked off.
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So so strange how that works, right?
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So that's a whole other issue.
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That's a that's a side issue that has nothing to do with Alex that I would love to talk
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about more another day.
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But like in terms of this, the real solution is just fucking be straight up about your
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rules.
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Just make your rules.
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If you are making us a lot of money, we don't care what you say.
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If you're someone who's using this service for free, we might have to cut liability.
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You know, you might be a danger to our profit margin and we're going to kick you off.
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Right.
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Which is fine.
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Which is, of course, why they leave Trump and Alex Jones and shit on is because every
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time those those media matters or CNN quote the president, they're always like the president
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tweeted.
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And Twitter is like, fuck, yeah, we get another free advertising marketing every single time
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the president is tweeting.
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That's how he's communicating.
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Everybody needs to be on Twitter.
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Otherwise, they're not going to know about that.
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You get rid of a lot of those people, too, especially Trump.
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Like you diminish the effect to which Twitter is changing the world and shaping the world
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through the platform.
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Exactly.
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And I don't think that they want to get rid of that.
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I think they should.
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I think it's dangerous.
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I think it's negative.
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But it's also their right to keep it right now.
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They're evil.
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They're a corporation.
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But Monsanto is apparently still allowed to exist.
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So there we go.
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So you come into this weird place where it's like if you don't want to, like, really just
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have the conversation about how everything but not everything, but a lot of shit should
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be regulated, then it's pointless.
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Why would you why struggle against it?
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And Alex, why struggle in the position you're in?
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You're stupid.
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He is stupid.
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There's really no there's no bones about it.
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This is dumb.
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And this isn't even the this isn't even the right way to go about his his situation here.
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Because as you were as you were saying, if you put together something that people want
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to listen to, people will listen to it.
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People will find it.
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And they will share.
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I know it's not a magical equation.
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He's making bad episodes bad.
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Like that's this is this is when you've got to step up your game.
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This is when you've got to make your show fucking appointment listening.
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But I think a lot of his regulars probably don't want to come on anymore because he's
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off all the networks, right, not nearly as big a platform for them to go on.
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That's true.
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So I think that there's some people who might be jumping ship.
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It's possible.
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I don't know.
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I don't know that to be sure.
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But I know that he has one of his guests, hero of Benghazi on and it's not Tonto Speranto.
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All right.
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It's a different hero.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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For years, we've only had Tonto as the hero of Benghazi.
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So we got another guy now I guess I fill in Tonto Speranto.
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But I just think that, yeah, you can't do appointment television with the like what
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he has at his disposal.
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He's got him, though.
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He's got to remember that he made this what it is by being him, man.
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He's had shit guests.
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He's got to shave and come to Jesus.
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Yeah.
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Those are the two things he needs to do.
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Exactly.
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He needs to have his like Jonah in the whale moment and he needs to shave that beard.
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Those are the two things because the beard is terrible.
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I don't know if you ever read this article, but there was a back in like maybe 2010, 2011,
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somewhere around there.
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There was a guy who was trying to sell like his tractor and the tractor deal went bad.
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I do.
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Wait.
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I remember the guy trying to sell his tractor.
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What happened to the deal?
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Well, the deal, I don't remember exactly what happened, but it went bad.
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And then these dudes who he was selling the tractor to held him down, shaved his beard
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and made him eat it.
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And I want to do that.
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I did not know that.
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I want to do that to Alex.
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I want to make him eat his beard.
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You want to make him eat his beard.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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I would never have that thought if it weren't for this tractor deal that went bad years
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ago.
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I want him to make it.
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Okay.
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There's a great video of this guy.
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He's like, they held me down and made me eat my beard.
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It's so fucking hilarious.
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I mean, it's terrible.
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That's tragedy.
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It's terrible.
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That's awful.
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I don't wish that on anybody.
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It's a crime.
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It is definitely a crime, but as far as crimes go, that one's pretty hilarious.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I would do that to Alex in a second.
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I'm trying to get rid of that beard.
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I would make other people eat other people's beards.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what I think about that, but I do think beyond that he needs to have like
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some sort of, I don't know how you do it.
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I mean, where are we?
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August.
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There's no good holidays coming up.
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I mean, maybe we wait till October.
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Easter sale?
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No, I'm just trying to think of like, if Christmas was coming up, that'd be great.
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Because then he could have the ghost of Alex past come and visit him or something like
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that.
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Oh, you're talking about bits.
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I'm not saying as a bit, but like he could experience it.
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Like maybe he does some mushrooms or something and watches a clip of himself from 15 years
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ago or something like that and remembers like what he used to do.
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It's still, you can keep the bigotry, but you can do it differently and you cannot be
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kicked off things.
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Like the reason you're kicked off stuff is because of slandering people, because of the
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threats that you've introduced to people's lives with your lies.
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You walk that line for years, baby, you can do it again.
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Get back to it.
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So you're asking for the third act of his life.
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In the movie of his life, you're either asking for the beginning of the third act where he
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has that moment or the beginning of Mighty Ducks, where that's the start of the movie?
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This isn't Alex Jones.
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This is a fire in a barrel.
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This isn't Alex Jones in a fire in a barrel.
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I don't know, man.
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I don't know what I'm asking for.
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I'm not asking for shit.
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I'm just saying that as far as someone who takes in as much Alex Jones as I do, I don't
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see the future going well unless he gets rid of the beard and has a crisis.
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And it can't be a crisis of everyone's trying to kill Trump like he's pitching here.
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That's not good.
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No.
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That's a current crisis.
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It has to be self-realization.
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It needs to be existential in nature.
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He needs to get back to the roots to some extent where he was, I mean, the yelling isn't
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even fun anymore.
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Like the yelling in the past was kind of fun.
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Like he'd never do three minutes of Silver Stallion in 2018.
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That is why he became the show he became is because of those things where there's humanizing,
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there's fun moments, there's yelling, there's lies, there's bigotry.
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There's all of that.
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There's conspiracies.
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Everything comes together in a bouillabaisse that is appealing, but the individual ingredients
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maybe aren't great.
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But now he just has rotten food that's put into this stew and he's trying to sell it
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the same way.
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Yeah.
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And it just doesn't work.
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It is interesting that when we did our-
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And it's rotten stew being sold by a worse waiter.
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So the waiter is-
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The waiter is even worse.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I'm sorry.
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All right.
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It's interesting that we, in our 2015 investigation, fucking nailed it.
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Like the thing that we continue talking about is why is he hitching his wagon and it worked
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out perfectly in the short term and it's ended his career in the long term, which is pretty
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much what we said.
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Yep.
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Like that's what we posited would happen and lo and behold, it came to pass.
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And I think if we could-
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We cogitated that it may happen.
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Definitely.
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Yes.
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And I think as we go further into the 2009 stuff, which is, you know, that's indefinite,
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we can just keep going over that and digging up the truth there in perpetuity.
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But like, I think we're going to find even more like where it went wrong, wrong.
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Yeah.
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You know, like I don't think that the Trump- I think the Trump is the like last thing that
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ruined his career.
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Yeah.
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I think there's much more before it that we're not taking into consideration.
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Right.
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Because for one thing, we don't know when he starts talking about George Soros and that's
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not to say talking about George Soros ruins your career, it's just that that means something
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in terms of his narratives.
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Yes.
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They've taken a change.
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Yeah.
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Secondarily, we don't know when that meeting with the Russians was, with the RT interview.
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Those two things, if we can find those, I think we'll find much more of like, this is
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the definitive story of how he ruined his career over the course of a couple of decades.
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But anyway, currently he wants to talk more about how everyone thinks that he's fucking
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a piece of shit because of what he said about Parkland.
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He's fucking a piece of shit?
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He's a fucking piece of shit about what he said about Parkland.
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And the reason that he's doing this is because most of the attacks that are saying he should
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be kicked off of Twitter have to do with things he said about David Hogg and Parkland.
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Which he did say.
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Which he did.
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He's getting very defensive about that.
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He's going to create some straw men and then at the same time, he's going to lie.
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The problem is, is they let Democrats be as violent and threatening and out of control
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as they want.
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As long as they should name it.
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That is the problem.
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They take us questioning David Hogg, who's in three different videos saying, I was at
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home when the shooting started, I rode my bike and then the shooting was over by then
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and then him saying he was in the school while the shooting's happening and I've got those
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videos and then he was there when it started.
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I mean, I've got all the news reports right here.
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I've already moved past that.
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I'm not saying the school shooting didn't happen.
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Play them.
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Play those videos.
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But you can go to Jamie White's article, update confusion over where David Hogg was during
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school shooting.
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Three different videos of him saying three different things.
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Play them.
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Now in a free country, I'm allowed to point this out.
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If David Hogg thinks that's defamatory, his words, he can sue me.
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He can win in court.
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So are a lot of other people right now.
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Don't give him ideas.
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Because he could.
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But the reason is this, and Alex is kind of embodying it even in that clip right there.
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The videos that he's talking about don't have David Hogg saying, I wasn't at the school.
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They're talking about that evening.
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We've talked about this already, this intentional misunderstanding that's happened because of
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edited video clips.
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There's an interview that he gave where he's talking about how in the evening he went back
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to his house, got his camera and came back to the school or whatever, he got on his bike
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and came back to try and get some footage.
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That has nothing to do with where he was when the shooting happened.
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It doesn't screw up the timeline in any way.
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This is literally intentionally misrepresenting something.
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Because all that information is very publicly available.
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If you watch the entire interview that that selected clip is taken from, where it's like,
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I came back to the school, if you watch the rest of it, it's very clear.
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It either means that Alex has never watched the entire clip and has only seen the short
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versions that imply that he wasn't at the school or that he has seen it and that he's
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intentionally lying about it.
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Either way, the way he's behaving here probably could get him another lawsuit.
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And there's precedent too.
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Project Veritas got sued successfully multiple times.
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So David Hogg, sue him.
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Well, I mean, I don't I don't know what to say, man.
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It's just he's he's embodying why he's a bad journalist.
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Like this is this is why you need to know a modicum of what you're talking about.
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I want him to do better than this.
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It's bad.
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It's a weird place to be in.
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It's worse, though, man.
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It gets worse.
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Like this show is like you'll you'll kind of understand, I think, why I ended up turning
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this off, because there's so much just, you know, yelling about the Antifa contract.
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I didn't lie about David Hogg.
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All this stuff.
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It's like you're getting defensive as shit.
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This is boring.
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You're a boring person now.
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You're shit to look at.
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And just like, I don't I don't want to watch this.
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But that would all be fine.
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I have a massive tolerance for even his most boring of work that just gets to the point
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where it's like boring plus I'm getting ahead of myself.
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Let's play this next clip.
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The last thing he says about David Hogg, I think it's bad, but it's amazing to see CNN
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running around saying shut Alex Jones all down on Twitter.
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He says David Hogg is a crisis actor.
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He says David Hogg wasn't there during the shooting.
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He says no shooting happened.
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I said no such thing.
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I said he's in the drama club out of a three out of three thousand students who are already
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anti anti gun speeches to be the spokesperson for all the other kids.
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And then all the other young people don't get to go on the news and sell their point
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of view.
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And then David Hogg leads huge rallies all over the country, calls me a con artist, says
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I'm a snakeball salesman and I politely respond back to him.
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And when they say I'm beating up on some young person and I'm a bully, what's your definition
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of Hogg is in a man's world out there blaming gun owners for what happened.
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It's all back again, see?
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And they keep running the headlines.
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Jones says nobody died at Parkland.
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They cannot find the video.
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They cannot find the audio with Sandy Hook because I used to play devil's advocate.
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Because I was looking at all the angles, having people on for debates, looking at anomalies,
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saying I can see how it totally happened.
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The law, these parents are very credible and I would say the other.
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They take that out and sue me for that.
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Obviously, that's protected under the First Amendment.
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But now the Democrats are all over the news saying we want to get rid of New York Times
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versus Sullivan, the defense of free speech.
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We want to basically repeal the First Amendment.
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Snooze.
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Snooze.
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Snooze.
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One more time, how do you repeal an amendment?
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You have to, oh man, it's a cumbersome process.
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You have to basically get a whole new amendment to the Constitution.
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So you have to go through three quarters of the states, ratify it, let's get two thirds
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in the state houses.
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That's a mess.
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Yeah, that's a tough thing to do.
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Congress and, like each house of Congress has to vote it through with like a three quarters.
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Right.
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Yeah, it's a mess.
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We did, however, agree that if you nuke the First Amendment, it will also go away.
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That's the only way, no, that's the only way to kill it.
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It won't go away.
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Oh, okay.
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It won't go away.
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It'll still live on as a ghost.
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It'll live on a ghost?
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Two amendments live on as ghosts?
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Its corporeal form will go away.
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Like force ghosts.
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Like Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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Indeed.
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That's what we're talking about.
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Okay, cool.
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And one of the things in the commercials is Star Wars based.
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And it is that scene with Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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And Alex is of course Obi-Wan doing the, if you strike me down, I'll become so much more
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powerful.
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Of course, of course.
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And then so he gets struck down.
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And then you see a shot of the Millennium Falcon and it's like, our app is number one
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on iTunes.
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It's so funny.
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That's great.
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That's great.
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God, it's stupid.
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That's great.
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It's so stupid.
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I like it.
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But the only thing I want to really say about that last clip is that this is why people
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who don't really deal with Alex should not talk about him.
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Yeah.
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And I know everyone wants to talk about him and shit, but if you don't know much about
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him, you would probably believe that he said that no one died at Parkland.
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Because he did say that about Sandy Hook.
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Yes.
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So you would think, yeah, it's believable that he'd say that.
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So you might tweet that out or something like that.
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You would say these sorts of things that are like, there's nuance to what he was lying
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about.
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If you just come in with that sort of like broad haymaker, what you're doing is allowing
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him to have something fake to respond to.
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Yeah.
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And I've definitely seen that with people who should know better.
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Yeah.
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I'll just say that.
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Yeah.
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There are people who definitely should know better and getting like a lot of the tweet
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action off of saying things that aren't true about Alex, but they're real close.
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And if they just knew a little better, knew what he actually has said, they could do a
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better job.
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But in the meantime, they should probably stop.
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You can get a lot of points online, I think, from being like, hey, Alex Jones is a piece
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of shit.
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He said no one died at blah, blah, blah Parkland.
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And good for you.
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Enjoy it.
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Enjoy those tweets.
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Those retweets and stuff and the, you know, more engagement.
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But all you're doing is helping him.
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People do it for the gram though, Dan.
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What?
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For the gram?
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Instagram?
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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Got it.
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You got to get those numbers up.
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Doesn't matter if it's true or not.
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Man.
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Doesn't matter if you research.
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He got a gram more.
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Do we?
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No, probably not.
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We're not good at any of that.
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No.
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No.
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We are not a brand.
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We're bad at branding.
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Totally.
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No, we're just like a show.
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Yeah, I'm fine with that.
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I'm fine with that.
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So now we get back to Alex being really into pushing fear.
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And this to me seems like what he really wants to talk about.
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He already has said that they're going to take out Trump in the next three months.
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Right.
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Which he has been saying for the past 15.
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About two years, yeah.
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But beyond that, he's got some real fear narratives here.
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And I think this is where he realizes he can make hay and this is the only thing he can
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do.
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I said they're going to shut everybody down ahead of the midterms.
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They know they're losing their panicking.
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But they've also said they're going to have low intensity warfare.
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They're not going to just burn trash cans and knocks the windows out.
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They have said that they're going to start killing cops.
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This is what the anti internal leaks are.
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They're going to start kidding.
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Some Republican congressmen like they've already done at the baseball field.
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They're going to shoot their Republican neighbors, city council members.
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They are all just being told through the ether like an al Qaeda type situation where there's
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no cells.
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They just put out the the order and then people that are adherence out there through the web,
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they carry it out.
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And all of that is being amplified.
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All of that is being pushed.
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All of that is being hammered.
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So that's I mean, that's pretty harsh.
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That's pretty that's that's scary as shit.
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If you believe he's not lying, which he is, the idea that Antifa is going to go out now
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they're going to shoot cops now is going to come around and fucking start maybe knob doing
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fires and barrels, but they're going to start shooting people.
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So that's the first piece of this.
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Now it gets worse in this next clip.
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He's going to build this fear up even further.
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They're going to try.
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I believe in October.
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History mirrors itself.
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And it generally comes in late September into early mid October.
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He's referencing just a couple stock market crashes, not many of them.
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They're going to try a stock market market crash with civil unrest with in October, October
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is a big month for him historically, October of rage, October of rage.
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I just can't believe the globalists are siding with the shy comms and Hollywood's doing this
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and that all these crazy people don't want America to come back.
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I mean, everybody's been serving the globalist kind of half ass.
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You didn't know what you were doing.
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You really should be joining the American team right now because we finally got a real
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president.
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The country's coming back.
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It's crazy what you're doing, because if they're able to plunge the stock market and bring
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in civil unrest, bad enough to remove Trump, they're going to go for broke and they're
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going to activate all sorts of sleeper cells.
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They're working with Iran.
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We know the left's working with Iran.
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They've got real sleeper cells, not like the fake Al Qaeda ones.
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They're going to start doing all sorts of nasty stuff.
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I would want to be in an apartment building.
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I'll tell you that.
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So I know what has all those plans.
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They're going to dump chlorine gas down your air conditioners about eight o'clock at night.
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So when everybody's sitting around to have dinner show, I mean, you imagine the panic
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and you got 5,000 people building an hour.
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I mean, they are ready.
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They are lined up.
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They are.
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This is a little, this is how wars began and they think they're taking America down right
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now.
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That's pretty fucking extreme.
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That's a bit aggressive.
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That's pretty, pretty serious in terms of the I'm trying to scare you.
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Hey guys, I'm really trying to scare you.
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They are going to, uh, what?
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Getting on top of your place and pour chlorine down your chimney.
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Is that kind of what he's suggesting there?
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I would assume so.
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Cause it's not like, I mean, I have a window AC unit out from outside.
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You could dump something in it, but like if there's central air, that's not going to work.
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No, you have to get inside skyscraper, right?
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The movie with the rock.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Which we kind of watched.
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We watched like 20 minutes of it was great.
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And Deb's, he did not find, it was not on mute.
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It just didn't have any sound spoiler alert.
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If Jordan downloaded a copy of Deb's, don't incriminate me.
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No, it was from a reputable source, but it didn't have audio.
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It had only the soundtrack, not the audio.
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It was a disaster.
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It was a disaster.
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Great movie.
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It was not a great movie.
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Fine movie.
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Even without sound.
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I knew what it would be like with sound.
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It's good stuff anyway.
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And the rock never fought that fucking skyscraper.
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No, I left about 40 minutes into the movie cause I was, I had to get home.
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He didn't even punch the wall one time.
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Did he, did he make it?
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Uh, yeah, he made it.
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Of course he made it.
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He's the fucking rock.
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Cool.
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He even grew his foot back.
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That's how great the rock is in movies.
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He's lost his foot and then he grew it back at the end of the movie.
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Stem cell propaganda?
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Exactly.
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Oh my God.
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The globalists.
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He actually took part of the skyscraper and made it his own.
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Little did you know that skyscraper, the movie was globalist propaganda.
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For tall buildings?
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Or for stem cells?
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I gotcha.
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I gotcha.
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What do you think about that?
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He was unvaccinated though.
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They're, they're like 50 50 on the, on the scale.
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What do you think about the fear that Alex is pushing right now?
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Well, how do you feel it?
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Like, do you feel like it's more extreme than general?
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Do you feel like it's on par?
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You know, I, I feel like it's, it's too extreme for him.
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Kind of.
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It's parody.
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Yeah.
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Because no one, even his people aren't going to believe that they're going to follow you
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home and then put chlorine in your air.
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Iranian sleeper cells.
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At eight.
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Why?
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At eight.
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Do it when everybody's asleep or do it during the workday before they get home.
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Also, if this all is happening in October, most people's AC is going to be off.
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That's when their heat kicks in.
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Now.
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Right.
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You can still get them all.
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You can get them left and right.
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Put it in the furnace.
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Put it in the, yeah, absolutely.
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Right.
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Or, or again, chimneys.
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Everybody knows Santa situation.
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Everybody knows that Iranian sleeper cells operate under chimney sweep laws, uh, from
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Chitty Chitty, bang, bang, Jim, Jiminy, Jim, Jiminy, Jim, Jim, chlorine gas.
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There you go.
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That's a great song.
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Dick Van Dyke.
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He was trying to tell us something years ago.
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So he, I'm from Iran.
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So there's a lot of fear going on here and it's a lot of bullshit, but it gets even worse.
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I didn't even like, I stopped at this in the middle to enjoy how bad it is.
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It gets even worse.
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Everybody better get maximum engaged politically, but also spend some of your time, I'd say
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80% engaged politically 20% of the time they start killing political leaders.
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By the way, he does not say what you should do 20% of the time.
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He just gets into his negative.
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So 20% of the time when they start killing political leaders, I put, I'm pulling the
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clip back a little bit just to make it clear that I'm not like cutting the chop and screw
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in this or anything, but like he never says what you should do with that 20% of the time.
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It's implied that it's probably get a gun and get ready.
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Engaged politically 20% of the time they start killing political leaders and Patriots.
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If you're a political leader or a Patriot in your area and you don't even think yourself
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as a leader, you're on a list.
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They've got leftist coming to your house to kill you.
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When they, when they, when they initiate this, this, this, this operation, if they really
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go for Trump, everybody else, they're not going to just take Trump out.
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They're going to go after Ron Paul, Senator Paul.
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They're going to go after me.
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They're going to go after you.
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They're going to go after judges.
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They're going to go out to the Supreme court.
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They're going to, let me tell you, they might set a nuke off in Congress.
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There is no link.
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They won't go.
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This is world war four.
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The cold war was world war three, according to the CIA.
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And I agree with that.
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This is world war four.
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This is yet.
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Is everybody better to decide which side they're on?
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And 30 seconds of plugging.
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We're running down to the internet specialist, fight the bully, say the internet, save him
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for super special.
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Some of the biggest specials ever on fluoride free colloidal silver iodine, fortified toothpaste.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I, I, wow.
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My neck was just broken from new Congress.
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It's world war four.
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Pick your side.
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It's already begun.
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You're going to need some iodine.
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I'm going to do 30 seconds of plug.
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You're going to need some iodine.
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So embarrassing.
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World war four.
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So embarrassing.
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And that all, I mean, that's all like from the same segment.
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I just cut out parts that were like kind of like him meandering and stuff, but like he,
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he starts with this, you know, they're going to kill cops and Tifa's coming to kill cops
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and then gets into the stock market's going to crash in October.
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It's everything is going to go down.
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They're going to put chlorine in your air system and then they're going to, leftists
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are going to show up to fucking murder.
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All Patriots.
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They're going to show up at your door to murder you.
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Now 30 seconds of specials.
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We do knock politely though.
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That is one thing about leftists that will, when we do start murdering all of the Patriots
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are one of our big rules.
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It's in the bylaws of the leftists.
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Knock politely.
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Absolutely.
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What, what are we?
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Are we them?
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No.
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No.
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The, the, the, I love the idea that he's doing the stand up to bullies special or whatever.
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And he's like, David Hogg's in a man's world now I'm going to lie about him.
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Like just fucking stop.
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This is so, this is lame man and I don't, I don't feel the same way about like listening
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to the 2000 episodes, the 2009 episodes that I were not covering yet that are just boring.
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Like I don't feel that way about them.
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I don't feel like, just go, go to bed, go to bed.
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I don't feel that way about it.
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I feel like, eh, you'll do better tomorrow.
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You know, like you'll do a better job to me in the present.
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I'm just like, go to bed.
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Alex.
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This is, this is fucking lame.
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Well, he needs to do, and I've texted you about this.
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He needs to just stop and let Paul Joseph Watson be in charge.
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He needs to get away from it.
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Let Paul Joseph Watson take over Infowars and let him be the guy from behind the scenes
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controlling stuff.
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Never going to do it.
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But that's the way.
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Alex isn't, Alex cannot be behind the scenes.
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He's a narcissist.
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He has to have all the attention.
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I understand that.
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But if he wants to continue the standard of living that he has and the operation that
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he needs to give it to Paul Joseph Watson, none of these other dudes can handle that.
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Owen Shorter sucks.
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David Knight's boring as hell.
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Paul sucks also, but he's much more popular.
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He could do it.
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If Alex wants to survive at the end of the day, based on what I've seen in the weeks
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since he's been kicked off all this stuff, he can't do it himself.
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He's too self-involved.
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Like all this is so much, it's so petty.
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It's personal.
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It's too much.
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He needs to step away from it.
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And unfortunately, that's literally the only thing he can't do because of what you're saying.
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He's a narcissist.
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He needs to be in control of it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and think about how easy it is, easy it is for disgraced white men to have a redemption
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narc.
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Sure.
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Look at Hardwick's back on the nurse side.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Louis C.K. is probably going to have another TV show next year or whatever it is.
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He's going to have a special and how about how funny it is to masturbate at people.
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Everybody loves it whenever a white man says, I'm sorry, and then continues doing the same
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shit that he was doing before.
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That's 98% of America's story.
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Sure.
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That's what it is.
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So just fucking go away for a little bit.
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Lilo.
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Wow.
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Paul Joseph Watson runs everything.
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Right.
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Then you're going to make a courageous comeback whenever Paul Joseph Watson wears out his
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welcome because everybody's like, this ponce is bullshit.
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Without editing, he stinks and Alex shaves his beard.
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Yeah.
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He's got to shave.
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Hard of the comeback to shave a red beard.
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You're really on that beard thing.
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It's really bad.
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You really don't like that beard.
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Yeah, it just sucks.
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It just sucks.
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It's an affront to you personally as your beard is magnificent.
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Well, it's one of those things like he has good coverage.
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It's not like he's missing parts of it or anything like that.
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It's not patchy.
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Like some people have like a line on the cheek where it's like, oh, there's just a line coming
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in there.
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Yeah.
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He has enough there, but it's just bad.
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It just looks bad.
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It doesn't fit his face.
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Does he need to like style it in some way?
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No, because it's not long enough yet.
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Like it should be.
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He's clearly trimming it is the thing.
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Oh, he is.
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So he's purposefully making it look this bad.
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It's been months.
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Like if he has that much beard now from like a couple months of growth, I don't know what
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the fuck he's doing.
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Yeah.
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I think that his testosterone boosting supplements may not be working.
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I suggest to Alex, uh, if you are listening, um, there is a brilliant comedian in Chicago,
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friend of the show, Mike Wiley.
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Go that route.
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Go that route.
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Tiny little Ian Scott anthrax beard.
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Do it.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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That'd be a crazy look on.
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That would be a crazy look.
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And I would be in his corner forever if he just blew it that way.
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One of the reasons it works so well for Wiley though, too, is that his body is most like
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it's pretty svelte.
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Yes.
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Like he's a, he's a pretty in shape guy and his head is, his head is longer than fatter
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and Alex has a fat head.
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Okay.
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I don't think it, I don't think that works.
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How do you feel about giant sideburns?
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Love them.
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I would, I would say let's give them a chop stash.
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Chop stash.
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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Sideburns into a mustache.
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You just shaved the chin.
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Yes.
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It's aggressive.
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It's perfect for Alex.
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It goes back to the lineage of Ambrose Burnside to whom you love.
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Yes.
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Uh, it'd be great.
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I don't know.
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You got to do something though.
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Anyway, we have one more clip here and this is me saving you from having listened, uh,
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having to listen to, uh, Alex's next guest.
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Dinesh D'Souza is, he is the number two biggest, I'm going to start this over cause you yelled.
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Sorry.
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Dinesh D'Souza is with us, let's start this over cause he yelled again.
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Dinesh D'Souza is with us.
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He is the number two biggest filmmaker in history and that's been the Hollywood outsider.
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It's also a number one New York times best shelling author of death of a nation.
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Oh boy.
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I would prefer death of a Dinesh.
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He's trying to do this as a like a mirror of birth of a nation.
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Yeah.
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Just fun.
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His whole argument seems to be that like fascist organizations over history are actually liberals
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as opposed to having conservative events and most of the arguments that I've seen, I'm
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never going to watch that whole documentary, but the clips that I've seen have largely
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had to do with, um, misrepresenting the party swap that happened in the sixties.
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It's mostly just playing how the civil rights removed any and all Southern Democrats from
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the Democratic party.
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It's mostly playing games with that in the same way that Alex does with like the Democrats
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with a party of slavery.
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It's like, yeah, but you got to, you know, I don't think, I don't think any Democrats,
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any more that I can, that I've ever spoken to will not acknowledge that the democratic
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party was the party of slavery.
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They can't not, they have to deny history.
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That's part of, that's part of the democratic party is we're all like, dude, for real.
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It was fucked up shit.
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But then we got the civil rights act passed and all of those guys left to you.
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So let's, let's hold off.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's like, did all the racist leave from the democratic party?
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No, no, no, we, I'm sure we've got tons.
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Yeah.
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There's problems.
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You guys want slavery again?
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That's all I'm saying.
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So Dinesh D'Souza is the number two filmmaker of all time.
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I had trouble with this.
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So I looked up his filmography.
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He's he's a right behind Alan Smithy, right?
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Uh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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As a fill in name, no, if I make a bad movie, I am going to change my name to Dinesh D'Souza,
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but without the apostrophe and just call it.
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I honestly thought when I did my research for this, I thought he said he was the number
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two documentary filmmaker of all time.
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He said number two.
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So behind James Cameron, I guess so, but I understood it to be documentary filmmakers.
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So that's where I did my research because I assumed he meant Michael Moore was number
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one.
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And he just didn't want to name him.
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So I looked into it.
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And what I found was that the here are the top grossing documentary films of all time.
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Number one is Fahrenheit 9-11 made one hundred and nineteen million dollars at the box office.
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Number two is Alaska Spirit of the Wild.
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One hundred million directed by George Casey.
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Number three, Antarctica.
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One hundred million at the box office.
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Can you believe that?
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Crazy.
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Directed by a guy named John Wiley.
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Antarctica?
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Yeah.
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Antarctica.
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At the box office?
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One hundred million and from DVD sales, all that.
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Oh, OK.
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Gross.
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OK, I got you.
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Number four, Space Station 3-D is ninety three point three million dollars directed
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by someone named Tony Myers.
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So looking to Dinesh D'Souza's filmography, here's what we got.
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We got 2016 Obama's America.
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Thirty three million dollars.
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All right.
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That's not terrible.
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No, no.
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That's crazy.
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I would I would I would take that how much did it cost him?
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It was probably nothing.
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Yeah.
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It was the top grossing documentary of 2016, which is unfortunate because Tickled came
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out that year.
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But there's other.
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That's a great documentary.
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Other than that, it was kind of a thin field in terms of documentaries and like three million
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is pretty good.
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America.
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Imagine the world without her.
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Fourteen million.
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Hillary's America made 13 million.
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Imagine the world with her.
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Death of a Nation just came out, but it's grossed about three point five million in
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the first few weeks, which is great for what is obviously a no budget document.
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Yeah, it costs him one hundred thousand dollars to make a documentary.
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They're not even easily.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But at the same time, all four of these add up to about sixty seven million dollars.
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Right.
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Which combined for his career, second behind James Cameron is so goddamn far from the second
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even documentarian or filmmaker who's ever existed in the span of his career.
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Dinesh D'Souza hasn't even grossed as much as March of the Penguins or the Justin Bieber
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concert film.
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Never Say Never has it now.
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The only question you never the Justin Bieber film great over 10 million dollars more than
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all of Dinesh D'Souza's films combined.
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It's it and it deserves every penny.
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I will never say never.
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Is he beating Werner Herzog?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And Errol Morris probably.
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Yes.
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That's disappointing.
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It's unfortunate because those guys didn't have good box office openings like the Thin
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Blue Line probably only made like two million at the box office.
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Yeah.
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But it's not really a popcorn movie.
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No.
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Certainly not.
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It's more of a it's a more of a sit at home in your apartment alone watching it at two
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a.m. drunk and crying.
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And Fitzcarraldo didn't make much of it.
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Who could have guessed why?
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But I don't think those movies also came out at times when they like I wasn't adjusting
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for inflation.
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So like Errol Morris's documentaries that came out in the like mid 80s and then Herzog's
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around the same time.
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Yeah.
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Like it wouldn't be adjusted for.
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And I.
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Yeah but Grizzly Man.
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That did pretty well.
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That's a good point.
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Let me look it up.
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I didn't look that up.
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Yeah.
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I forgot.
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Here's the real comedy of that.
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I forgot that Herzog did Grizzly Man.
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Let's see what that gross.
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I don't like while I'm looking this up you go to your phone.
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I'm not going to my phone.
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I'm not going to my phone.
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I'm not going to my phone.
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I need you to vamp the hardest.
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So.
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It probably wasn't actually that great at the.
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Three three point one million.
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Oh it wasn't that great.
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I mean that's that's pretty good for a documentary but.
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Yeah.
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And that's why the the anti Obama film getting thirty three million is is very notable.
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Like the fact that he has that in his catalog is not is not to be ignored or looked down
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on but there might be a different variable there.
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I think that was so popular.
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I can't think of any variable.
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I don't know.
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It's mysterious.
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It could be maybe because there's a certain subsection of the population that feels underserved
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by their conspiracy theories not being constantly and aggressively repeated to them by Hollywood
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and so they artificially inflate the numbers of anybody like what's his Kirk Cameron movie
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Kirk Cameron.
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They make money.
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They make money.
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They don't lose money.
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Well but that goes back to like Jim Baker types right because a lot of that that a lot
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of those are like you'll have overinflated gross just because of church groups that come
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and see it like I used to work manage this movie theater and we would constantly have
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buses of churches that come in for movies like Carmen or Carmen.
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No.
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There was this old Latino guy.
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I thought you were talking about the opera.
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No no no.
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There was this guy named Carmen who was like a Christian celebrity and he would make these
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like super low budget Christian movies but sometimes they would show up at our theater.
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We were the secondary theater in town and so if we got that they would sell the fuck
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out because busloads of Christians would come and they would just go see Carmen the champion.
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I remember my whole town growing up shut down when The Passion of the Christ came out.
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And every single fucking church might be like Sundays are canceled.
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Zoo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it wasn't because of like too many people it was because it was all groups of 200 whereas
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most organic movie viewing is groups of three groups of four maybe a date.
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You would have buses come and like fill the parking lot and I get it.
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That's fine.
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You guys all want to do this as an outing and boost your own shit.
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Cool.
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I am not against it.
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I'm still furious I never got a hand job during The Passion of the Christ.
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I'm furious.
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You have a girlfriend now.
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Yeah.
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You have Netflix.
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Right.
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You can make this happen.
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Is it on Netflix?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I haven't looked.
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It seems too late now.
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Now it seems almost manufactured.
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I want an organic hand job during The Passion of the Christ.
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Organic orgasm.
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Yeah.
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Netflix though.
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What?
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Justin Bieber.
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Do they include like the rights that like does Netflix Netflix has to pay some sort
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of fee every time somebody views it?
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That's generally I think included in the gross.
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But I would imagine that comes down like what would be considered in the gross is the contract
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that Netflix is paying.
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Yeah.
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The licensing fee or whatever it is.
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Because I don't think it comes down to like viewer numbers.
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That's how Netflix decides what they keep and get rid of.
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Right.
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I think that Netflix just pays whatever.
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There's a blanket licensing fee right off the top and then they go from there.
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Yeah.
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And then whoever watches it watches it.
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Right.
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And that's why like there's all these like really shitty things.
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They probably paid 50 bucks to put them on there.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Like everybody's special.
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Hey.
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What?
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What?
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Stand up.
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Hold up.
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There's some good comedy on there.
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There's some great comedy.
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There's some real bad comedy on there too.
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Yeah.
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I've watched it like 10 times.
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Good stuff.
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Still great.
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Good.
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Anal.
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Anal.
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Who's done anal?
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Fantastic.
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Perfect.
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That is not a good representative sample of Rory Scoville's special.
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But it's what you chose.
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It's the way it opens.
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That's the only point.
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Anyway.
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Jordan.
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Mm-hmm.
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If I need to bring this episode to an end what I would say is that the last time we
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checked in on Modern Day Alex right after the ban, him getting kicked off of stuff,
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I made my point that, you know, his fate is in his own hands and he can do whatever he
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wants now and we'll see what happens.
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My point now is he's fucked and it's his own...
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Yep.
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It's his own fault.
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It's his own fault.
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He could have done much better and instead he's rambling about the Chinese and stuff
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like that and hey, you know what, if you want to complain about the Chinese, that's fine.
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If you want to complain that the Chinese, like, hey, no one can cover the Chinese doing
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stuff, that's fucking stupid.
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There's an article right here from the other day out of the Channel News Asia about China
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delays mosque demolition after a protest.
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Weird.
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Beijing.
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Authorities in northern China delayed the demolition of a massive mosque on Saturday
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after thousands of people demonstrated to stop its destruction.
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Local residents said amid a nationwide government drive to tighten restrictions on religious
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activities.
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Across China, officials have sought to limit religious freedoms for Muslims as part of
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a widespread attempt to bring believers in line with the dictates of the ruling Communist
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Party.
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So if you want to talk about stuff like this, you can.
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People are.
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There are news stories about that and there's plenty of news stories you can find from,
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you know, our outlets in America about oppressive shit they're doing.
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M.C.N.B.C. rudely trampling on international trade rules.
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China.
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You know, it's not like it's not like no one is saying China is being a dick or whatever.
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No, that's a pretty regular statement that a lot of people make.
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Yeah.
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Because China is being a dick.
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Yeah.
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You can't claim.
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He can't claim that, which is not to absolve us.
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America is being the number one dick, right?
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Oh, totally.
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Yeah.
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We're to share in the blame.
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Yeah.
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In some sort of a narrative, Alex would be much better served if he actually dwelled
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in some nuance.
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Yeah.
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But it doesn't.
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It's all nonsense, man.
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It's just diminished fear and ad pivots.
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It's the exact same game we saw him playing for years and years.
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And he's so trained, like a Pavlovian dog, that he is just doing the same thing and expecting
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the same result.
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And it's not going to work.
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He needs his he needs his Rocky three once he just got his ass kicked by Mr. T. He needs
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a bad ass training montage, probably some domestic issues with his wife.
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He needs to overcome it.
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And then he needs to knock Mr. T out.
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Can those domestic issues be with his ex wife?
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Because then we might be cooking with gas.
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I think we might be cooking with gas there.
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And then three installments later, he'll make a good one.
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Yeah.
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What?
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Whoa.
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Whoa.
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The greatest barridge, Rocky four, the greatest movie of all time.
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Dan, Dan.
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Oh, my God.
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Rocky four.
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It's like if America was a movie, here's the time where I tell you I've never seen any
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Rocky movies.
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Oh, boy.
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I was going, if we add another $50 to the Patreon, by the end of next month, Dan and
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I will do a Knowledge Fight commentary of all of the Rocky movies in one day.
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I'll probably have some thoughts about it. I mean, please, if you like the show,
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support the show. Uh, you know, it's shitty after we just clown on Alex for his, uh,
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nonsense, but we appreciate everybody. Also, we are not going to do Rocky movies.
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We might. We might. If you'd like to support the show, you can go to knowledgefight.com,
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click support the show, or also just knowledgefight.com is our website.
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There's not a lot there anymore, but, uh, we're working on, I'm working on a lot of stuff.
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It's just a page that says, call Larry Nichols. I'm working on a lot of stuff that will replace
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a lot of the content that we had on our website. A lot of the blogs, a lot of that stuff,
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working on it. It's going to take a while. Yep. Um, but we thank you for your support.
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We are also on Twitter. We are, you can find us on Facebook.
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You should join our group, go home and tell your mother you are brilliant.
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That's correct. We're also on iTunes. Man, look at all these platforms we're on.
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So many. I think we've criticized
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the Chinese more coherently than Alex has. And yet here we are.
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Oh boy. Still online.
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Oh Dan, I think it's my turn. I think it might be.
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So I, I think the obvious answer to the, uh, to the question of who should go fuck
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themselves this week is the number two filmmaker of all time.
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No, it's actually a Jack from Twitter. Go fuck yourself.
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You pussy coward bitch.
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Andy in Kansas here on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.