Transcript/174: February 11, 2009
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, in this case a blood orange IPA, and talk about Alex Jones.
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Uh, indeed we are, Dan. Dan.
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Jordan.
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If you had just been peer pressured into taking a taste of a garlic hot sauce.
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Soft peer pressure. Soft peer pressure.
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What are you talking about? There's years of peer pressure built into you.
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I don't know about that.
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You gave me the hang dog eyes.
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I just said, hey, this is a delicious sauce.
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I could tell it meant a lot to you, I couldn't continue to fight back.
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This is now going to be the next 40 episodes of our show, as the introductions are going to involve various sauces and or hot things.
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I'm disappointed, I don't have another habanero to do.
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No.
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Frankly, this is a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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Nothing about hot sauces.
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I'm really weak tea.
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That's amazing to me.
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I am the whitest. I was raised on, look, Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich was the only spicy thing I ate until I was like 45.
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But that's probably one of the best spicy fast food items.
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It's certainly better than a volcano taco.
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It's the best fast food sandwich that you can get.
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So good.
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It's perfect.
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Let's go to Wendy's.
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Fuck this show, let's go.
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So today, we're doing a little bit of a, generally we don't have episodes on Tuesdays, but I needed to put this out because...
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This is a minisode.
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It might be...
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It'll be two hours long.
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It might be close to a normal episode.
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For us, it's a minisode.
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Yeah, it's intended to be a minisode.
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And it's because I've been going through 2009 stuff, and our last episode was February 6th to 10th.
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And then on the 11th, Alex Jones got fucking weird in such a way that I could not include it in the entirety of that episode.
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It needed to be a standalone episode because...
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You insisted this to me multiple times.
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And I couldn't explain it to you beforehand because of the premise of this show.
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Right.
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And look, we don't have time to say thank you to donors and what have you, we've got to keep going, but we've got to get into it.
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Just spiritually, thank you to everybody who supports the show. If you'd like to support us, go to KnowledgeFight.com, click the Sport the Show button.
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Now, we need to get to the important issues at hand.
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Yes.
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I wouldn't do this to you if this wasn't, like, a very real, serious issue.
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And here...
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I...
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Ugh.
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I don't trust you.
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Here is what we need to talk about.
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You'll be able to memorize any type of information, including entire books, guaranteed.
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Oh, no.
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This is not based on classic mnemonic techniques or other tricks that you simply can't apply in...
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They fixed the pronunciation in that commercial.
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They fixed the mnemonic.
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Yeah.
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They did.
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They did.
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Because last time, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, shit.
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This is crazy.
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What is happening?
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So they re-recorded it.
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Yeah, they re-recorded the commercial.
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Somebody must have told them.
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Someone was like, hey, guys, that's not how you pronounce that.
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Also, you don't have enough women on this show.
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So, that's not what we're talking about.
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That's my nice joke intro.
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That's nice.
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I'm glad they learned.
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That suggests a capacity for learning that we heretofore did not know existed.
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Absolutely.
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Yes!
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We're trying to start the show off...
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They can grow!
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We're starting to start the show off on an inspiring note.
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Yeah, there's hope.
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There's hope for everyone.
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If you can learn that mnemonic is not the right pronunciation...
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If you can learn about silent M's, you can learn about how...
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You can learn about anything.
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You can learn about how all your bigotry is based on lies.
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Or at least your time stables.
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Yes.
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So, actually, here's what I want to talk about.
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Well, okay.
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Headline up on prisonplanet.com.
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And, of course, we'll tie this into all the other reports.
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Internment camps readied for mass illegal alien influx.
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Oh, God.
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This, of course, is referring to an article this morning...
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Oh, God.
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That is in the El Paso newspaper.
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And the El Paso newspaper is reporting this, so we'll be going over that.
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Coming up after this first break.
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Don't.
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I have the El Paso story here in my...
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Don't.
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He's really stretching it out.
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Don't tell me.
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Don't tell me about...
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He's really stretching it out.
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Don't tell me what's going to happen, Dan.
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Dan, don't tell me what's going to happen.
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I don't know.
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Because I know what's going to happen.
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What do you think is going to happen?
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He's going to say it's very bad.
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He's going to say it's very bad.
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That's interesting.
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Alex is going to say that this is a crime.
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Alex is going to say that your government is encroaching upon you.
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Alex is going to say that this is the worst thing that a government can do.
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And that, in fact, if a government does do this, you should revolt and overthrow this government.
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Alex is going to say that a government that does this type of things is invalid and is not acceptable.
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And that we should literally draw a line in the sand and leave that government or perhaps fucking destroy it.
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Is that what Alex is going to say, Dan?
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Not entirely.
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I think there's some...
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Did I get the spirit of it right?
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I think there's some of the undertone you're getting correct.
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But the reason that I need to talk about this is not because of that.
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I've had a realization about Alex Jones and about why he's not a hypocrite that...
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Okay, this is a big deal.
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You're going to need to sell me on this hard.
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I really should have understood this sooner.
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And I think naivete is something that I am absolutely guilty of.
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And listening to this episode from the 11th brought into sharp focus that I should have been paying much closer attention
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and listening to some of the undertones and what he's actually talking about.
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Because so often what we do is we hear things like, oh, that's a lie.
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And we just go like, oh, that's a lie.
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And in that sometimes what you miss, what doesn't get swept up into the pantry.
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That's not the right word.
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That doesn't... sure.
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Into the dustbin or whatever.
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There you go.
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This is the spirit of what he's actually talking about.
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And this next clip really brought home in sharp focus.
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This is a put your mic down clip because he's very prescient about certain things.
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But then he also presents it in a way that we should have been paying attention to all along.
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And it's a big failure on our part that we hadn't.
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And when I say our part, I mean me.
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They always know how to roll things out with the crises they create.
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And then, oh, they're putting troops on the streets for the illegal aliens.
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Oh, they're putting troops on the streets.
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And just outside Austin in Taylor, they have a big FEMA camp.
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We've been out there and protested it.
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We have video of it in Endgame, Blue River Global Enslavement.
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And they grab the illegal aliens without due process, and they don't even deport them.
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And they grab the children, and it's full of children as well.
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But again, it's only a beta test.
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And then these people deserve due process as well.
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But they set the precedent on a group.
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I think the public will go along with this, Sean.
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So the part of the FEMA camp stuff that he's talking about in 2009 isn't real.
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But the part that I need to own my naivete that the scales dropped from my eyes listening to that originally
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was when he said it's a beta test.
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His whole problem with mistreatment of immigrants, his whole problem with the mistreatment of people who
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you don't worry about them being treated poorly is that it's a beta test
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because eventually they're going to do it to the whites.
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They're going to do it to us, us white patriots.
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You know what? That's so awful because I've had that thought recently.
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The thought has always been there. Watching all of this shit happen is like,
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really, when you stop and think about the people that are doing this,
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do you think they really don't want to do the same thing to progressives?
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Oh, totally.
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Just like us.
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Look at Rex 84. The thing that he bases all of this on was about communist sympathizers.
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Do you think they've never gone after socialists before?
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Do you think they don't specifically target fucking Fred Hampton and Martin Luther King Jr.?
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The only time it's actually been done are just left.
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Has an evil president been assassinated? A bad one.
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Has somebody who has committed all of the evil that could possibly be done,
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has he been assassinated? Was Reagan actually? He didn't even get killed.
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Evil doesn't get killed in this country.
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I don't know enough about McKinley.
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McKinley was a piece of shit. No, he was just-
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I just don't know enough about him.
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He was milk toast. He was just there.
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I like how I told you before the show you were going to scream a bunch.
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I probably won't.
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Well, when you make me conscious of it, then I become afraid of screaming
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because then I feel like I don't have control over myself.
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And apparently I don't, Dan.
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It's before 9. It's fine. The neighbors are here.
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Oh, God, Dan.
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But Jordan, that mentality has made me take a very serious pause.
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The idea that it's a beta test that they would abuse immigrants and stuff like that,
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it indicates to me, because I think this tracks with his positions,
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he doesn't care what happens to them.
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He cares that eventually it's going to happen to good, as he puts it,
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good, clean-cut families who are white people.
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Now, hear me out on this.
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No, no, no. I think I know where you're going with this, and I agree with you.
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The reason that it's not hypocrisy now, when we have in the past,
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he's been screaming about FEMA camps forever,
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and now we have these camps where parents are being separated from their children
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and what have you. Shh, shh.
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No, no, no. I'm so excited. I totally agree with you.
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The reason that it's not hypocritical for him to be like,
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it's fine, is because he knows, with Trump in power,
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the next step isn't going to happen.
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White people are safe.
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And that, to me, was a heartbreaking moment, listening to this episode,
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because back then, there was a black president,
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and it made him scared that whites were next.
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And now we have an overtly racist president, and he's like,
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everything's fine. Tyranny is fine.
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You have a president who's legitimately saying about Xi Jinping,
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he's president for life. Isn't that cool?
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That sort of stuff that his principles should have led him to be like,
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no, this is tyranny. On any scale, this is how you end up in a position
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where you're in a tyrannical dictatorship authoritarian rule.
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But because the person is presenting themselves as so fine with white people,
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and so fine with the oppression of whiteness, he doesn't care.
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And what it leads me to understand is that we've done a shitty job on this show,
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because this is as far back as we've gone, for the most part, in 2009,
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and it becomes very clear to me that he is an out-and-out white supremacist
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Granted, he doesn't say the same shit as David Duke, he tries to debate David Duke,
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he doesn't say the same things as a Richard Spencer or anything like that,
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he's much better at presenting himself as being like, no, that's not what I'm talking about.
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He has a lot more nooks to hide in, nooks and crannies and what have you,
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but I think that we've done a really shitty job, and I'd like to apologize to the audience.
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This, to me, is revolutionary in terms of how I will deal with Alex moving forward.
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There's not a bone in my body that thinks that any of his positions about what he's afraid of are real.
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They're only real inasmuch as he thinks that a white person is going to be a victim of it.
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Yup.
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And that, and again, this is me calling my-
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Welcome to the team, Dan.
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No, but here's the thing.
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I think that my position, especially on this show, is not taking that leap until that leap is appropriate.
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And I don't think that, I think that up until this point, from what we've witnessed,
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it would be reasonable to say, hey, he doesn't mean any of this shit.
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But the scales had not fallen from my eyes until I heard very clearly the idea that what they're going to do,
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the thing that I'm afraid of so much, is a beta test.
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Yup.
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That making it so clear, and then in the same sentence, he's talking about the idea of people having their kids taken away.
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Yup.
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Is all a beta test in order to, and then again, that exact scenario playing out in front of our eyes in 2018,
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and him being like, eh, eh.
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Because it's not a beta test.
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It's not a white threat.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's terrifying.
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Yeah, no, the moment you started talking, I was like, that connection was made instantly.
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Because, yeah.
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I know, because you're a smart person, but I wanted to make sure I got that out.
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No, no, no, no.
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Not because I was a smart person, but because that immediately made perfect fucking sense.
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That's the only thing that makes fucking sense.
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Because if his position in 2009 is essentially, when they came for the Jews,
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I said nothing because they didn't come for me, and then they came for me.
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That's his position, and now he knows when they come for the Jews, they're not coming for me.
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So it's fine.
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Fuck the Jews.
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I don't give a shit.
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Yeah, fuck them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, this is fucking, this is a nail.
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This is a coffin that just got nailed into the fucking ground.
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He's been a man who's been masquerading as having principles for decades, for years and years.
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His only principle is white supremacy.
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That's what it is.
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Quite realistically, I mean, we've always had the smell of that with all of his forgiving white terrorism
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and creating gymnastic level defenses of how it's possible that this isn't white terrorism.
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Yeah.
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And stuff like that, and to me it's like, this...
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This is done.
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Yeah.
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It's a mess.
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That's the clip.
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It breaks my heart in some ways.
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That's the fucking clip.
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It breaks my heart in many ways because it makes things very simple and moving forward
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we'll have a much easier framework to work with.
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And I think that there's some value to that.
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But the other thing that really bothers me is that this is 2009.
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And I want to say this really quick, and this is a diversion to some extent,
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but Alex's ex-wife right now is on Twitter.
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She's starting an initiative where she's going to unplug Infowars.
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That's her new website that she's going to launch.
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She's going to sue him and unplug Infowars.
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Ugh.
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Hashtag unplug Infowars.
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And what I want to say very clearly is that right now, in 2009,
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she's a big part of the operation.
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Like, when we talk about, like, oh, yeah, she wasn't around when he went to Trump,
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she's a part of it at this point.
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She knows a lot more than she's putting out there.
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If she really wanted to unplug things,
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there's a lot of stuff that she could just put out publicly.
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There's a lot more that she could say.
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But she doesn't.
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The other thing I want to say, I don't remember what it was.
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I had some damning thing I wanted to say.
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Fuck.
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Just generally most of what you say is damning for Alex.
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Yeah.
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I, ugh, it's so obvious.
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It's very obvious.
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I've been called, look, by no means have I not called him a white supremacist
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for the past year and a half.
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Yeah.
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But that is such a fucking dead on.
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That's what it really is.
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There's no other conclusion to draw.
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There's no, like, oh, his principles are just flawed
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and he's not applying them equally.
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His principles are specific to whites only.
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But you know why it's so damning?
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Libertarianism is for whites only.
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Oh, duh.
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But you know why it's so damning is because there are moments of, like,
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outright white supremacy and white fear, like, going into the swimming shop
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and seeing Muslim women and being like, this freaks me out.
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Like, that's just white supremacy.
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Like, you think they don't belong in your space.
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Right.
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Or whatever.
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Right, right.
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And that's something that we can experience and be like, that's fucked up.
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You are, you have a problem.
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But this is such a different level because it's such,
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it's inexorable from his base narratives.
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Like, the things that he has been most aggressive about
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in terms of what his fear is that he has abandoned now being afraid of.
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You know, it's that, it's...
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Whites aren't going to be put in FEMA camps anymore.
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Nope.
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They're safe.
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You got, you're on home base now.
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Yep.
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Or more specifically, conservative whites.
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Right, right.
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Gun whites.
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Yeah, gun whites.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what it is.
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We don't have to worry about them taking away our guns anymore.
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No, but at the same time, we do have a bit more safety
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than some of our other brethren and sistren in the world.
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And it would be irresponsible of us to sit here and say, like,
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we aren't safe with Alex's narratives.
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You know, like, because you're saying that he is safe now
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because, like, gun whites are safe.
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Yeah.
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We are still whites and we still have a much bigger past
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than a lot of the other populations.
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Yeah, I mean, but the problem with that,
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the problem with that is the sympathizer label,
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which is going to be thrown about.
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If it continues at this rate, we are, we become sympathizers
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and thus lose our white status.
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Like, that's what it, what, you think in Nazi Germany,
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people who hid Jews were fine?
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No.
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Do you think we're not going to be people hiding people?
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Like, fucking, if, look, if you're an illegal immigrant,
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come to my place.
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We're girlfriend's place.
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I will, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And fuck up her shit, but leave my shit alone.
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Well, thankfully we're not there yet.
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But we're fucking close.
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But we're there.
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There is also, there is an ICE office in Chicago.
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Let's go.
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For real, shut it down.
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So this is the big point that I wanted to make on this episode,
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but there's more.
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And thankfully for the rest of this,
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we'll just get to do a dance on Alex's racist face.
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But in this next clip, Alex talks about Obama being a dictator.
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And it's interesting, the specifics that he uses,
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and we'll get to that at the other end of this clip.
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Damn it, these people don't even, fucking,
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they're not even fucking real human beings.
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They're dead on the fucking inside.
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Restaurants are now putting his picture up like we're in Nazi Germany.
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His picture's everywhere.
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They're like little shrines.
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In East Austin, there is an Obama retail store right now.
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It's amazing to me.
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Again, any time that happens in history, that's deadly dangerous.
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So that is also, the other guy talking is a guy named George Humphrey,
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who the only credit I can find for him is he appears
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in the Obama deception documentary that Alex just made.
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He's credited as an economist.
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I have no idea if that's actually true.
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But hey, fun fact, murals of Trump are at these detention camps
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with the nice inscription,
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Sometimes losing a battle teaches you a new way to win the war.
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No!
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I honestly don't think that that isn't encouraging.
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That doesn't even make a goddamn bit of sense!
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It's not an encouraging message to the children
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or the people in those camps that might see it
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as much as it is a middle finger to the liberals
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who have tried to create different ways to make it through society.
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Burn it the fuck down.
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That to me...
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Burn it the fuck down.
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Honestly, that declaration on that mural that Trump has,
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and I don't think Trump made that.
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I honestly don't.
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Why wouldn't he have?
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Everything with his goddamn name on it.
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He probably paid some million other people to fucking...
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Because I think that's a level of...
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Goddamn piece of shit.
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That's a level of micromanagement I don't think he's capable of.
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I don't think he's capable of...
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God!
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That would be an insane amount of organization
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that I think he's two hands off.
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I think that some white supremacist maga fuck
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made a mural with Trump's face, an American flag,
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and then the quote,
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Sometimes losing a battle teaches you a new way to win a war.
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I think that relates to all the years
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that white supremacists were banging their heads up against a wall
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trying to figure out how to come into power,
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and that's sort of a wagging dick kind of moment.
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I think when I read that quote,
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I don't think that that is anything
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that you should be saying to immigrants.
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I think that is entirely a fuck you.
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I think that's a fuck you to liberals.
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There was the GOP autopsy.
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You tried to hold us down so long, and now we're back.
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We found a way to win the war by losing the battle.
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The GOP autopsy after they fucking were destroyed in 2008
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was all about becoming more inclusive,
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was all about changing demographics,
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was all about making sure that the Republican Party
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was more inclusive and the white supremacists
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figure out a way to win and make it more exclusive.
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Exactly. Tea party.
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Fucking Christ.
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So now George Humphrey is a fucking dick.
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Like Hubert Humphrey.
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I don't know much about him,
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and again, I can't find much about him,
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but this clip says everything I need to fucking know about him.
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After he was elected, I heard the day of his inauguration,
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I heard on the television at least 75 times,
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this is the first African American ever elected to the United States.
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Well, his mother is Caucasian,
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his father was 80% Arab and 20% African,
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and I don't care whether he's black, blue, brown, or orange,
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but he's 10% African.
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Does that make him an African American?
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And it is absolutely the fuck.
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I mean, I'm like 6 or 8%, I forget, Native American.
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Does that make me Native American?
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It's just amazing.
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Die. Die.
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And it is just such a sales pitch.
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It's a sales pitch.
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Can I, can I?
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It's a sales pitch.
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This is when I need to discover that I have psychic powers,
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a la Akita, and am able to-
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Is that from Dune?
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Sorry. Fuck off.
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You have not gotten any of my references recently.
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Oh, just assumed.
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Also, I sang the song from Highlighter.
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In our last episode, that was Queen.
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Okay.
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No.
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Man, it's a mess.
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It's a mess.
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In this country, in this country, in this country-
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You're hyperventilating.
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Doesn't even fucking matter.
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Black isn't about heritage in America.
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Black is about skin color.
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It doesn't fucking matter.
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And it doesn't even, it doesn't even fuck.
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Look, look, I mean, you have to, how far back do you have to go
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where if you were half white, you were still not a citizen?
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How far back do you have to go to where if you were half white,
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you still weren't allowed in the same white restaurants?
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How far back do you have to go before it doesn't even fucking matter?
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Pump the brakes for a second,
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because I think what you're trying to express,
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and you are, the passion is there and I appreciate it,
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but I think what you're trying to express is that there was a time.
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It's very condescending.
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There's a time that extends to the present
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where whiteness was defined by exclusion.
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There were people who were like, no, you have a drop of black blood,
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and therefore you aren't white.
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And that was used to keep people out of places.
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That was to keep society in a certain order
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that the whites wanted order to be in.
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Your mother's grandma was black.
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Doesn't matter how white the rest of your family is.
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You're a quatrune.
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Get out of here.
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There was that shit that happened.
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Now what we're seeing in 2009,
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this guy coming in and being like, he's not black enough to be black.
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You're trying to have it both ways.
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There is the history of exclusion of black people
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because they're not white enough,
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and then now we have him being like,
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well, he's the president.
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Everyone says he's the first black president,
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but his mom was white.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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What the fuck do you want?
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At what point are we going to get to the...
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Furthermore, you heard him say
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that people said he was the first black president.
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You didn't hear them say he was the first African president.
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He was the first president who was from Kenya
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for fucking whatever your bullshit is going to be.
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He wasn't the first president who was moderately
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or mostly related to an ethnic race that was not white.
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You heard them say he's the first black president
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because his skin was black, which meant that no matter fucking what,
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if his parents were white, his grandparents were white,
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and he was black just because his great-grandpa was black,
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and by genetics, that is how his skin color came out,
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it wouldn't have fucking mattered to everyone around him
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because they would see his skin color
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and they would say the N-word directly to him.
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It doesn't even fucking matter.
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He could have been 98% white,
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but if his skin was two shades fucking darker,
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then it wouldn't matter how white he was genetically
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because black is about looking!
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Fucking god... Fuck this guy.
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Fuck this guy so hard. Fuck this guy so hard.
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Totally, and I'm not sure he's an economist,
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but there's so much that the concepts of whiteness and non-whiteness
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that are being played with specifically the way he's using it,
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each version that he's trying to use are to defend whiteness
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and white supremacy, anti-othering.
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That's all he's doing.
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He's using a rich tradition of exclusion of blacks
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through appearance and what have you,
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to then he's flipping that around to use as a weapon against Obama
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to be like, you're not black enough because look at your lineage.
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Look at your lineage. You're not black enough.
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And that, to me, smacks of eugenics.
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I see what you're saying.
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To build up on top of that,
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that is also a dig of like,
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well, somebody who is really black could never become president.
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Oh, that might be in there.
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I didn't even think about that.
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That is very much in there.
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That idea of like, he's the first black president.
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Well, his mother's white, so of course he could become president
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if he was actually black.
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That's sort of like a calm down.
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Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it is.
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I think there is in there. I didn't even think about that.
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And that's one of the things that's so fascinating about this rich racism.
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This is fudge. This is dark chocolate fudge racism.
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In one of these hot sauces, there's the garlic layer,
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and then there's the ghost pepper underneath it.
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The garlic is great. The ghost pepper, a little bit tough.
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There are those layers to it that are like,
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oh, you get this one, maybe you missed the other.
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And I completely missed the idea of like,
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what he's saying is like, nah, if he was really black,
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we would have kicked him out.
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Yeah.
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And that probably is in there.
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That's absolutely in there.
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Well, to be fair, he didn't say all that much racist shit
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other than that, which is plenty, in his interview.
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So I was just like, nah, let's give this guy just,
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nah, I don't give a shit about him.
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And that also gets back to that idea of changing purity levels.
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Because it's still always about white.
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But it's like, well, he's 80% Arab.
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Well, he's dead.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Now, are we talking about his actual dad or Frank Marshall Davis?
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Right, right, right, right. Whatever the fuck it is.
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Then it becomes percentage.
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Oh, well, he's mostly.
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Like, it doesn't even fucking matter.
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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I hate these people. I hate these people so much.
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Facts don't matter?
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Nope.
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Narrative doesn't matter?
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Nope.
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Always just going to be able to move the goalposts?
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Whatever it is.
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So now...
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There is no reason to listen to anything these people have to say.
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Jordan, this show is full of guests.
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God damn it.
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It is chock-a-block with guests.
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We've got a murderer's row of white supremacists.
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Now, this next guy is named Jack McClam.
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He's a cop.
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Of course, of course he is.
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He's an ex-Phoenix cop.
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All right, well then he's a great person.
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He also has a show on the Genesis Communications Network.
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And here is him being a fuckwit.
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Our phony president, by the way, we haven't had...
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This is a time that we don't have a president of the United States.
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First time in our history.
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And because he's a phony president,
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we have all the evidence to prove that he's not our president
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because of Article II, Section 5 in the Constitution says he's not
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because he's an illegal alien out of Kenya.
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And anyway, they think they have got it made.
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You know, they think they've got it made.
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They've got us.
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And they don't realize that God is still in control.
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God is in control.
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Do they not realize that?
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Is that a thing you cannot realize?
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The other people?
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Yeah, because that suggests that at some point you realized it.
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Were there a God I would believe he's in control
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or she is in control as it were?
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Wink.
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Nicely done.
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So what do you know about Jack McLamb?
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Why do I ask that question?
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Well, he was a Phoenix cop.
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Yes.
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And clearly he's a birther.
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And he doesn't remember that George W. did not actually win Florida
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and the Supreme Court gave him the presidency
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because it was a conservative fucking Supreme Court
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with a 5-4 majority.
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Oh, and that also, I'm glad you brought up George W. Bush
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because there is that question that remains,
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and maybe we should have dealt with this maybe 20 minutes ago,
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but there is that question that remains of
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why was Alex against George W. Bush
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if he is this like, now Trump is in office and he feels safe,
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doesn't worry about this stuff.
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And I would posit that as much as George W. Bush is a war criminal
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and he's a monster and has upheld a system
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that is very brutally anti-minority and all that shit,
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he was not as clearly a white supremacist.
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Like he wasn't as clearly, like he was not somebody that if you were a Nazi,
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if you were someone, you would not hang your hat.
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Like David Duke never advocated for George W. Bush.
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And that's because even they are aware of the stupid slash evil continuum
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for conservatives.
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They were like, he might be too dumb to be one of us.
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And that's the reality of it.
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And he never gave like those winks and nods that Trump does.
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He gave a few, but they weren't as like, they weren't as murdery.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I think that there's something to be said for that.
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I think that when we look at the history of like where Alex puts his foot down,
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and where he criticizes, it's very clear that if George W. Bush
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would have been like, hey, there's a Nazi rally,
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there's good people on both sides,
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there's a decent chance that he would have gone along with it.
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Which actually makes me concerned that in 2015,
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we know that Roger Stone and Steve Puchenik
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were the driving forces for him joining up with Team Trump.
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Yeah.
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Now we don't know what they said.
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And there's a decent chance.
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He loves white folk!
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I don't think Steve would say that.
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I think Steve is a manipulator and he was doing his like,
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there's a counter, counter, coup kind of shit.
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Right, right.
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I believe that whether or not Steve Puchenik is a racist or not
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is irrelevant to me.
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I don't believe that his manipulative game would have been that.
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He was trying to diamond gusset it up.
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Yes.
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Now I don't know about Roger Stone though.
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There's a decent chance that Roger Stone could have come in
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and just been like, hey look, he hates Hillary,
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loves whites.
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You gotta love this guy.
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Yeah.
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He's gonna be fine with whites.
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Roger Stone is willing to tell any lie.
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But that wouldn't be a lie.
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No, no, no, no.
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I just mean in the sense that he will do it bluntly.
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Like Steve Puchenik, as you pointed out,
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would more be like, oh, he's part of the deep state
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and he's a patriot and yada, yada, yada.
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And Roger Stone is just gonna cut to the point and be like,
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you love whites.
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He loves whites.
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Let's move it along.
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Steve Puchenik is a propagandist and a manipulator in many ways.
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Absolutely.
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He's a psych warfare guy.
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But I also think he has shame.
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You know, like from what I've been able to witness.
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Or at least manners.
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Oh, he certainly has manners.
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You didn't even ask me how I was doing?
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He can pretend that like Sandy Hook was a false flag.
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He can pretend that Las Vegas was a false flag.
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But at the same time, he would not lower himself
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to being like, please, Alex, just get on board with this.
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Like, look, he likes white people.
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He would try and do some high-scale manipulation
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as opposed to the low scale.
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Whereas I think there's a chance Roger Stone
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could have just been like, look, on a base level,
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you're afraid about white stuff.
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He's gonna protect white stuff.
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I think it's possible.
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There's no low that Roger Stone won't go, man.
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He's like the ultimate Congo player.
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He's the ultimate limbo champion.
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So Jack McLamb, I'm gonna read to you
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from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Phoenix Cop.
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It's from the Southern Poverty Law Center website.
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He produced a periodical called Aidan Abet Police Newsletter
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and most famously, a 75-page document titled
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Operation Vampire Killer 2000 colon
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American Police Action Plan for Stopping World Government Rule
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written in 1992.
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In parentheses, conspiracy monger Alex Jones
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is selling an updated version on his website.
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McLamb was perhaps best known for his claim
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that the government placed unobtrusive colored dots
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on people's mailboxes so the troops serving
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the New World Order after martial law is declared
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would know what to do with people living at each address.
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A blue dot meant that you were destined for a FEMA camp.
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Pink indicated that you were to be used in slave labor.
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Red meant that you were to be shot in the head immediately.
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McLamb was also involved in the development...
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Don't they celebrate that for seven days?
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That's Passover? What is that?
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That's very close to Passover.
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That's very close to Passover.
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McLamb was also involved in the development
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of a right-wing housing community called
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quote, Almost Heaven located near Kamiya, Idaho in 1994.
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If you tell me anywhere in Idaho is Almost Heaven, I'm not right.
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The community was supposed to quote,
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make a stand against the New World Order.
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McLamb's partner in that failed venture
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include Bo Goertz, a decorated Vietnam veteran
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follower of the racist and anti-Semitic
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Christian identity religion.
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Bo Bridges.
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And Jerry Gillespie, a former Arizona state senator
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who opposed Martin Luther King Jr. having a holiday.
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So that's Jack McLamb's flavor.
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Look, he opposed Martin Luther King Jr. having a holiday
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on the grounds of, we got too many bank holidays.
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Too many.
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Too many holidays.
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What are we going to do, Arbor Day next?
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So on this day that Alex reveals to me,
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the scales drop from my eyes that,
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oh, it's just about protecting whiteness,
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he has now had a guy on who is saying
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that Obama isn't black enough.
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And now Jack McLamb, who is saying
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that Obama was born in Kenya, and he's
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the first ever invalid president of our country,
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who happens to be running right wing,
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or trying to run right wing separatist communities
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with people who don't believe Martin Luther King is deserving
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of a holiday, and other people who
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are part of the Christian identity movement.
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So that's cool.
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This is a big show.
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As a con, gated communities are not bad.
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White supremacist gated communities,
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they're doing great.
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Not in Idaho, dude.
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You got to, location, location, location.
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Always important.
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No doubt.
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So in this next clip, we get a new guest.
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I'm telling you, so many guests on this show.
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All right.
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Glenn Spencer, it's great to have you on with us.
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Good to talk to you again.
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It has been a little while since we had you on.
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A lot of new developments.
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Please give us your breakdown on what's happening.
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Well, Alex, I moved out of California
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and down here to the border about seven years ago.
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And what about to tell the truth about the border
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to the American people?
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Well, that's an admirable goal.
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Is it?
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Nope.
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Nope.
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It's not.
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I should tell you what Spencer does.
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Glenn Spencer, what he does.
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Glenn sir is actually what I prefer to call him.
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He has some technology that he's deployed.
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Oh, no.
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No, these people can't have technology.
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He may or may not have an army of drones.
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And he might have some land where he has put seismic graphs on
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so he can tell when there are people walking over it at the border.
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And he may or may not send drones out
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and photograph people crossing the border.
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Now, he doesn't do anything with that information,
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but he is a weirdo who is spending way too much money.
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He's a mess.
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So, and this is in 2009.
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Yeah.
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This is not...
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Oh, he's still doing it today.
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This is not drones are cheap and effective.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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I'm not sure if he was doing it in 2009.
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He's absolutely doing it since then.
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He is doing it now.
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Okay.
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I'm not sure when that started,
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but he's been trying to develop some sort of plan
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to fuck over people at the border for a long time.
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Now, it's weird to me that he doesn't report them
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to the border authority,
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but I think it's because he doesn't believe in the federal government.
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I think that's part of it.
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So he just takes pictures of them.
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He also doesn't believe in...
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He takes pictures of them as they cross the border
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and then puts them on a website.
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Do you remember that show Cheaters?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Do you remember how at the end of it,
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it'd be like, hey, all these people who cheated on their girlfriends
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or whatever, they're on nocheatersdate.com.
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The pictures of them.
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I think it was like that.
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It was like bordercrossers.com.
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He was just cataloging.
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Yeah.
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But unfortunately, that's not all he was about.
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That's not all that he was about.
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No, sir.
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In 1992, Spencer formed the Voice of Citizens Together.
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Prefer to call him Glenn, sir.
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That's nice. I like that.
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But that implies that he's two people like a celebrity couple.
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Glenn and Spencer got together.
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Glenn and Spencer?
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Where did Heidi go?
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Oh, she's gone.
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She's dead.
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She's been dead for a while.
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Didn't hate minorities enough.
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She got murdered by drones at the border.
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So he started this thing called the Voice for Citizens Together,
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also known as American Patrol,
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in response to what he perceived as Mexican-related violence
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in the LA riots that followed the acquittal of police officers
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who beat the shit out of Rodney King.
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So it goes all the way back to the Rodney King riots.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's when he started this group called American Patrol.
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So he began getting involved in, quote,
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anti-immigrant politics, and in 1994,
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was the chief proponent of Proposition 187,
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which aimed to cut public services for undocumented immigrants
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and ban their children from attending schools.
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Spencer's website would become a popular anti-Mexican propaganda outlet,
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consistently posting sensationalized stories
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meant to imply that Latinx people had a higher propensity towards violence
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and were undermining American culture.
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That mentality is kind of reflected in this next clip.
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I could go on in depth on that, the whole cultural thing.
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This thing is coming apart.
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There is no foundation there. There is no cultural strength.
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Yes, in a sense there is, because once a Mexican, always a Mexican.
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The Mexicans are unified in that sense.
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They're very nationalistic.
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However, they will look for any reason and any excuse to move across that border.
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And because they want to take the Southwest back.
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Fair.
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Any way you slice it, we are headed into insane times.
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Oh, absolutely.
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So I kept that after that break there just because Alex had to respond.
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Like I had to make sure that he didn't say, how dare you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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He's on board with this.
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Right.
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So Glenn Spencer believes in this stupid Aztlan conspiracy
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that he's one of the major proponents of,
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that believes that Mexicans are working together through their advocacy organizations
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like MECHA or La Raza in order to take back the Southwest.
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They're coming to America specifically because they want a swing demographic
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so they can vote it back to Mexico.
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This conspiracy is deeply racist.
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I, first off, love that.
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To be fair.
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Conspiracy. If they were doing that, brilliant.
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To be fair, land was stolen.
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It is theirs.
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So to put together a Scientologesque guerrilla operation
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where you infiltrate an entire government in order to take back land.
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It's pretty wild.
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I love it. I think that's brilliant.
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There are easier ways to do these things.
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There are a few.
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Also, the idea of a white nationalist saying that they're very nationalistic.
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Right, right, as a negative.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, they're very nationalistic.
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Oh, man, these guys, they want sovereignty and they want borders
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and they want their land back. It's crazy.
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You're wrong.
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I actually think that that's him tipping his cap to his enemy.
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You think that's him?
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I do.
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No, actually, yeah, yeah, I can see that.
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I can see that now.
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I think that's him saying, like, I fucking hate them but I respect that they're nationalistic.
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I kind of think that if you listen to that clip, I think that's a piece of it.
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I can see that.
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So also, Glenn Spencer.
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Before you go any further, I despise the...
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Glenn Spencer? Me too.
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Yeah, no, absolutely.
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But this is something that we talked about previously.
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The propaganda of the status quo.
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Yeah.
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Which, to me, is that anti-immigrant politics.
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He got into anti-immigrant politics.
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Oh, no, that was my term.
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What you mean is...
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That was my term.
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Oh, okay. Well, don't use that.
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I just used that as a fill-in because he's a racist.
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Right, exactly.
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That, to me, is the propaganda of the status quo.
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That idea of, like...
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No, that's on me.
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No, that's fine.
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No, you can take issue with my framing it that way, but I only did that because I was
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harkening back to what Keith probably thought he was doing in the early 90s.
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Right.
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That it was...
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There probably was a kernel of it that he thought that there was a benign version of
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it.
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But that might also be me being...
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That might be me expressing the same naivete to you.
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I was gonna say, it's not like you came up with anti-immigrant politics.
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You didn't invent that...
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No.
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That phrase.
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No.
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But I used it as...
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Or that nomenclature.
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But I wasn't quoting some other place saying that's what he did.
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That was my writing.
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Right, right, right.
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I see what you're saying, but, I mean, yeah, then in that case, I...
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J'accuse.
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That's fair.
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No, and I accept that criticism.
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I don't think that that's what he was doing at all, but I think that, I mean, on a just
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bare bones level, I do agree with the terminology because he is anti-immigrant.
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That's true.
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No, no, no.
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But I think there's a bigger picture to it.
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Factually accurate.
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I agree.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But you don't get involved in anti-immigrant politics.
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You are in racist politics.
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Yes.
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But I think...
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Because what do you mean anti...
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Like, oh, are they anti-immigrants from everywhere?
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Jordan, I would also like to say that when I write these things, there has to be a journey.
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I know.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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And if I just start with, this guy's a fucking huge racist.
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I know.
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Eventually we get to that.
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I don't...
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Which is, again, why I didn't think it was you because generally when somebody uses anti-immigrant
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politics, they don't end with, this guy's a giant racist.
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You know what I'm saying?
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They're trying to minimize whatever his positions actually are.
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That's a New York Times thing to say.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what I meant.
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The reason that I used it as I was writing this up was because there was a journey to
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go on of learning what those anti-immigrant politics were.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And that's on me.
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No, no, no.
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I trust you when you say that we're gonna end on racist.
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If I ended it with he's anti-immigrant...
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Then you're fucked.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Then you can go fuck yourself.
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And there's two sides to this.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Then you can fuck off.
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That would be different.
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Yeah.
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In 2008, which is before he's on Alex Jones' show right now, Spencer posted an essay on
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his website titled, quote, Is Jew-controlled Hollywood brainwashing Americans?
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That's actually a good question.
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In it, he assured readers that he had Jewish friends, but added, quote, I fear, however,
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that this small handful of patriotic Americans are far outnumbered by liberal Jews who have
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now total control over our media.
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So he's branched out at this point that he's on Alex's show from just being super against
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people who are coming from the border to now he's fucking doing the Jew stuff too, which
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is...
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I mean, that's info wars milieu.
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Yeah.
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Anytime we start talking to this, eventually it comes back to that concept of the five
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Jew bankers that run the world.
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Oh, well, the media, they're not bankers.
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They're the five Jew producers or the bank, you know, like anything.
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There's always...
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Anything.
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There's always some catch-all.
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Yeah.
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No, that's not what I'm talking about.
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Right.
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Which, by the way, I don't think we have enough donations for the none-dare-call-it conspiracy
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to come out.
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Ah.
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On time.
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Ah.
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But it will still come out.
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I'm not gonna hold it ransom in some malicious way.
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But...
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Of course not.
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Man, there's so much of that in there.
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Yeah.
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Get ready for pages and pages of me deconstructing that.
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See, again, all this propaganda weirdly goes back and back and back to people just hating
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the Jews, man.
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It's anti-Jew stuff and then misunderstanding communism.
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Right.
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It's those two things, like, vociferous anti-communism was such a scourge in the Cold War.
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It was so bad.
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Like, the John Birch Society stuff was so...
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Right.
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It was so damaging.
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One...
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Actually, I want to tell you about this.
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There's something that I found in my research that is so amazing.
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A bunch of universities did a bunch of studies about people's opinions towards communism
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throughout the 60s and 70s into the 80s.
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And they found that, of course, as time went on, people had much less fear about communism
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as an ideology.
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Right.
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They actually, towards the end of it, they found there was at least an 8% affinity towards
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communism, which is something that none of these people would, like Alex Jones, would
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cop to.
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But the funniest thing that I found is that they did a poll in 1974 about who the government
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should be spying on.
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So they asked a bunch of different groups, like, should the government spy on them, yes
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or no?
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So, 74.
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1974.
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So we're well past McCarthy's end.
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March 1974, this is when this came out.
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So the number one group that people said, yes, you should spy on them was the American
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Communist Party at 74.9%, which is pretty high.
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That's high.
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That's pretty crazy high.
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But at the same time, you know, what are you up to, communists?
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I kind of understand in the 70s.
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I saw the Americans.
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That makes sense.
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A lot of the countercultural people probably didn't have phones they could answer for the
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polls and stuff like that.
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So number two at 74.7%, vigilante groups like the Ku Klux Klan.
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So the KKK comes in just under.
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I like that they're close.
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I don't like who's number one, but I'm feeling you, 74.
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So far, we're doing 50-50.
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Now here's what's really fun, you know who came in third?
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The John Birch Society.
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47.2% of respondents thought that the government should be spying on the John Birch Society.
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All right.
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They got higher rating than the Students for Democratic Society, the SDS, which brought
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us to the Weather Underground in 1974, had just got done bombing a bunch of people.
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So they were more suspicious to the public than the SDS.
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Yeah, because the SDS isn't actually going to take over the government.
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They were trying to change policies.
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They weren't trying to infiltrate.
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There's other groups like the Democratic Party, Republican Party, the ACLU, NAACP, they're
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all below the John Birch Society.
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I just thought that was really fun.
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When I found that, I was like, ha ha, ha ha ha.
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It was weird that they added Fox News in that poll and it was number four.
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It was crazy.
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It was super weird.
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Fox News hadn't even existed.
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So anyway, go fuck yourself, Glenn Spencer.
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You suck.
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For sure.
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You're a monster.
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But this is actually really fun.
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So I wanted to make a supercut of this, but I couldn't because of time constraints.
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I have started to notice that Alex says a bunch of things when the mics he thinks are
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off.
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Okay.
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So the only way you'd be able to know this is if you listen to all of the raw feeds and
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listen to the commercials.
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Right.
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Not to the edited.
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Because it's coming out of commercial.
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But he says this repeatedly, initiate waging war on corruption.
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Alex Jones on the GCN radio network.
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So that's coming back from commercial.
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He just says, initiate.
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I think that there's a part of him that thinks he's military or something like that.
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There's a part like initiate.
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He says that repeatedly coming out of commercial initiate.
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Not like let's go or anything like that.
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That's I think he's a closet Star Trek fan.
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Fine.
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The only way is I just thought it was kind of like, I just thought it was worth noting.
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No, I like it.
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I like it.
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I think it's more fun if he's, if he's like a weird closet sci-fi.
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Well I mean he talks about, he talks about Star Wars, he talks about, he's all about
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science fiction.
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All of his references are like what, what's real is actually what happened in.
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That's why the two of you probably would be friends.
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No we could never be friends.
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Because you love Dune and Highlander so much you could just relate that to his stupid ideas
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about Star Wars.
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Two references in a week and everybody thinks that I love Dune.
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Okay so it's many, it's many more references than that.
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But I have more interests.
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Do you want to talk?
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You had less references to Highlander.
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I'm putting, I'm pimping you a little bit that way but your Dune shit is getting.
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Dude I could go so far on Dune.
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You should get on our Facebook group.
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Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant because there are people who want to talk
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to you about Dune.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And I can't help them.
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I'm not on Facebook but we'll see.
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All right well get on it so you can talk to them about Dune because I'm sick of it.
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Have you read Chapterhouse Dune?
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I read Dune when I was younger.
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So it's a few thousand years after the God Emperor of Dune.
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Keep talking I'm gonna pee.
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I'm gonna pee.
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I don't want to do this again.
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No keep going.
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I'm gonna check the fuck out.
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I read Dune when I was like in seventh grade or something like that and I was like this
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is a snooze.
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This is a long walk.
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So such a long walk.
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Such a big book.
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Do not disagree.
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Yeah.
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It's like it's like anybody tried to convert to Judaism where I'm like no no no.
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You don't want to go through this.
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You know it's it you don't want to go through this.
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Let it go.
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Fair enough.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan we got another guest coming up.
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Lot of guests.
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I told you this show is lousy with guests.
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It's lousy with guests.
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And they are all the worst.
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This guy sounds right might be worse than all of them.
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All right folks the next 30 minutes we're joined by Sheriff Richard Mack.
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No Sheriff Richard.
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Already any time he says any time Alex says sheriff it's going to be a bad day for me.
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Yeah man.
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Sheriff.
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Because he's never like oh this sheriff helped save two puppies today.
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It's never that.
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It's always a sheriff that is like I am the ultimate law of the land.
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Interesting you should say that.
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Oh god damn it.
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There is one person who I believe could stop this new world order.
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His name is your county sheriff.
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Oh boy.
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So that's what Richard Mack is about.
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His name is.
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How many counties are in there in the United States.
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There's three thousand sheriffs I believe.
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But also counties aren't really they don't exist in every state.
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There's like parishes in Louisiana and Alaska doesn't have counties at all.
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There's the breakdown by state is very like it's nonsensical to think that like the sheriff
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is the law.
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It's the ultimate law of the land.
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But I should tell you that for those states without a sheriff too bad.
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I should get a law of the land.
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Richard Mack is a board member of the Oath Keepers.
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Dick Mack is a board member of the Oath Keepers.
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I should also tell you he is one of if not the main originator of the constitutional
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sheriff's movement.
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He's one of the guys who started this idea that the sheriff is the one who can save everybody.
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He's the proto Arpaio.
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Funny you should say that.
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No!
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Funny you should say that because here's another drop.
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio who has endorsed my book by the way, he's on the back of the book,
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he believes in all of this about the autonomy of the sheriff.
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Look what he has done.
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That's a bad way to phrase it.
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Look what he's done.
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Look what he's done.
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I would like all of you policy wonks to elect me president.
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I will have a vice president who is far more qualified than me.
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However as president I will spend one day in office and that day will be an executive
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order to murder Joe Arpaio.
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And then piss in his throat hole.
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He needs to fucking die 20 years ago.
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It's the worst.
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God damn it.
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That fucking piece of shit.
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But it's not surprising that Joe Arpaio would be super on board with Richard Mack's idea
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that the sheriff is the ultimate law of the land because people like Joe Arpaio like to
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make their own little mini fiefdoms where they are king.
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They like to abuse their power.
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They like to create systematic abuse of people who are different and scare people about immigrants
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in order to justify things like not investigating abuse.
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Things like creating fake bomb scares in order to get himself reelected.
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We've gone over this over and over again.
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Look into Joe Arpaio's history.
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Never enough.
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Never enough.
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Joe Arpaio should fucking die.
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There are very few summary execution candidates.
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I believe as someone who's like much more restrained than you and I believe that we
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should burn him alive.
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Yeah.
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For real.
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Joe Arpaio is legitimately white supremacist and has done irrevocable damage to countless
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people like the people who had to live in his fucking tent cities.
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I can't imagine what PTSD some of them had to go through and the lingering effects that
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has caused to the people in their lives.
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I can't imagine the people he jammed up like what happened to them throughout their like
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the ripples that he's responsible for just because of his lust for power and just because
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of his desire to be the king sheriff that Richard Black is advocating for.
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He he is so he is at a level where I'm like I understand the Roman overlords who put people
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in a fucking bowl and lit it on fire.
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Jordan he's a living embodiment of the thing that Alex wants you to be afraid about about
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the globalist.
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Yes.
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Like absolute Joe Arpaio is that and because white people are not the people who are going
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to be hurt.
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He got a pardon.
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Exactly.
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He got a fucking part in the pattern is so fucking clear over and over and over again.
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So now I want to tell you about Richard Mack a little bit.
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Richard Mack was a part of the Bundy standoff.
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Of course he was.
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Why wouldn't he be.
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Why wouldn't why wouldn't Dick Mack be there.
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Sheriff Richard Mack former sheriff at this point was a part of the Bundy standoff.
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And because of that he ended up a guest on Fox News I'll quote from an article about
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that.
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God damn it.
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Appearing on Fox News is the real story on Monday.
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Former Sheriff Richard Mack said he and other protesters quote were already strategizing
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to put all the women up at the front.
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If they're going to start shooting it's going to be women that are going to be televised
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all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.
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So that to me takes away from the brutality of what the officers would have done if you
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were just putting the women up front in order to create some sort of monstrous image of
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them is like oh isn't it terrible that they're killing the women while you put them up front
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in order for them to be killed.
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What the fuck is going on.
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What game are you playing.
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This is so like he's pretending first of all that never happened.
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Second of all the optics of that are not worth you getting your wife killed like what the
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fuck is going on here.
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He cared more about the optics of pretending that the oppressive government that was going
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to kill them that didn't kill them was murderous that he would put his wife in mortal danger.
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He doesn't give a fuck about his wife.
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Well what he's what he's doing is he's saying you know all those organic situations where
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the cops the government have murdered young women.
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Oh man that happens a lot.
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Children everybody.
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You know all those situations where white supremacists have wound up doing that.
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Well we're going to manufacture that.
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That's what he's saying.
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And let's not talk at all about all the times that white supremacists have killed tons of
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minorities and then been walked into jail.
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We would never do that.
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There definitely aren't monuments to doing that in the United States.
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There's definitely not Dylann Roof getting Burger King at the at the.
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Burger King.
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Well I mean this would be fair.
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I mean look I would say go Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich.
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I mean granted we did wrong thing for me to take issue with such a we're such in a place
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where the world is so fucked up.
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What do you what do you even fucking say.
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Literally the definition of gallows humor.
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Yeah.
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Critiquing his choice of food.
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No shit.
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In 2014 Richard Mack ran for sheriff of Navajo County Arizona quote we're going to make it
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a constitutional county and show everybody the blueprint blueprint for freedom.
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And there's a lot more people running in other offices than me.
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I'd say I'd run for sheriff.
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We're going to give this one one more try.
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The election is 2016.
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I'm going to be moving there in the spring of 2015 so I can get ready for this.
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You have about a year and a half to decide.
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I'm dead serious about this.
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If I can move there so can you post script.
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He lost that election to Democratic incumbent Kelly Clark by almost a 10 point margin.
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Good.
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So now here Jordan I wrote this paragraph and I'm super proud of it.
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Richard Mack was a hostile opponent of Obamacare and then he had a heart attack while his wife
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was very sick.
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They were self-employed and could not afford insurance with mounting medical bills.
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They started a GoFundMe to pay for their health care.
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One will be thrilled to learn that they did not reach that yes.
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Yes I am.
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Yes I am.
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I mean it's like they're a classic example of yeah no it's bad when everybody else does
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it.
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It's fine whenever I do it.
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Fuck off.
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Yeah absolutely.
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And the only thing that makes me sad is that they had a sixty thousand dollar goal for
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their GoFundMe and they reached fifty thousand fifty three thousand.
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It's still too much but it is funny that they didn't hit their goal in some way.
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You know it's still some way like go fuck yourself.
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There's it's also nice that they had a that the real issue is they had a miscalculation
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by ten grand.
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Like that's the if they had fifty thousand they would have been fine.
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But it's also a coming like it's a coming to Jesus moment that never really happens
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like I think that if you're this like you have this principle and you go through life
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like this and you're like fuck people being able to afford insurance when they're self-employed.
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Go fuck yourself you stupid piles of shit.
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Look at this Affordable Care Act.
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I hate it.
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Yeah.
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Oh shit.
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I had a heart attack.
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Everyone please give me money.
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Yep.
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Like the idea that you don't at that point realize why never it's a problem and why this
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is very important for people.
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My dad gets Social Security benefit.
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But it's remarkable.
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to know.
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But it's remarkable to me that that didn't cause him to be like I get it now.
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Yeah.
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He's still on the other side.
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I don't.
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I refuse to understand that I am accepting what amounts to a charity that could just
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be done systematically for everyone.
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Like to assume we could all do this in a bigger way and take care of everyone instead of you're
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going and go fund me getting a 8 percent cut or whatever.
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It's great.
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Privatism.
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Right.
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Capitalism.
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That doesn't need to happen.
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Everyone knows it doesn't need to happen and he just doesn't learn his lesson but I'm sorry
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about your dad.
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No it's just it's just my dad is he receives Social Security benefits right.
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And yet he supports the GOP government that passed that massive tax cut.
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Right.
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And what are they doing now Dan.
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I can't imagine that I have ever said this before nor written about it extensively but
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their plan to pay for those tax cuts.
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I'll be goddamned if it isn't to cut Medicare and Social Security benefits.
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So they wouldn't.
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Oh they said they would never touch it.
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They said it would.
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Oh no.
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They said hey Dan we got to balance that budget.
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Everybody says a lot of things.
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We got to balance that budget.
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It's so important not to run three trillion dollar deficits.
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That's a terrible idea.
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It's too bad there aren't other ways.
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Oh it's so crazy that for some reason he voted against his own interests.
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It's bananas.
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Mm hmm.
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It's crazy.
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And that that is the subversive way that the whites are going to be punished along with
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the immigrants and the minorities and soon the gays.
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It goes it goes LGBT community.
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It goes back to Reconstruction era south.
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If you get poor white people and poor black people together they're going to win.
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So you divide poor white people and poor black people.
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Which is why everyone was so mad at the Clintons in terms of the broken coalition.
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There you go.
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Bringing everyone together.
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Exactly.
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And granted at the same time the idea of like shifting more right in order to be more appealing
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towards the center is a problem.
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But that idea of bringing together all of the all the disenfranchised groups and being
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like I'll take care of you if you followed through with all of that.
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That would be a winning strategy.
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It sure would.
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Yeah.
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I hope our current Democratic Party really learns that lesson.
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Oh.
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Oh we have the worst president in history and somehow the opposition party is going
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to fuck it up.
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It's amazing.
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It actually is very clear why that's happening.
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No one knows how to deal with this.
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Like why would why would right people who have been in government for 10 years 15 years
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some of those assholes for like 20 30 years.
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Why would they know how to deal with this.
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Why would they understand the situation that is unfolding right.
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Like so when you have like everyone is super mad at the Democratic Party and the Democratic
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caucus or whatever you know like the leadership and rightfully so you should be mad at them
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they're fucking idiots and they're awful they're fucking the dog on this.
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But on the same in the same breath how could they not.
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And that's not to say give them a pass.
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But like no no I know what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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Of course they don't use two years and years of like things being different and now things
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have changed.
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Yeah.
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And you'd hope that they'd be like I got a wake up call.
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Let's get better.
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Not going to happen.
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They won't because I mean look I mean dude spoiler alert because Alex has had a couple
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of House representatives on his show as guests I looked up their salaries and like House
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representatives not even in the federal government.
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House representatives in most states have sixty thousand seventy thousand dollar a year
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salaries.
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The fuck would they give a shit about anything.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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I'm in this.
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I'm in this.
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I'm coasting.
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I'm good.
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Right.
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You know right.
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They're not touched by anything.
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I don't know.
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Can you imagine being like just in a government job for 30 years 20 years where there's a
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very little chance you'll ever be voted out because oftentimes you don't have anyone even
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going against you.
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Yeah.
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And there is in that government job because it is so protected.
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Lifetime health insurance.
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Billion percent chance you are going to make a shit ton of money corruptly.
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Like that's it.
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That is one of the arguments for paying representative politicians more is because if they if they
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were already rich maybe they won't be as averse to corruption.
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However I would say that's not true as we already know.
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I would say a better version is just oversight regulation.
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Oh yeah.
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Regulation.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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Everybody hates that word.
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So Jordan back back back on track on task.
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I'd say that Richard Max sucks on a lot of levels.
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Dickie Max.
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And here's one level where he sucks by very very mis.
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He's misrepresenting the feel of the country.
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Yeah.
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In 2008 in the election.
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And I think it's very specific why.
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The hopelessness that people felt during especially this last campaign the presidential election
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I think left so many people with a bad taste in their mouth of hopelessness that right
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now I'd give it a message that there is hope and it is your county sheriff.
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I would say that I never saw more hope than in 2008 during that election.
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I never saw more people dancing in the streets.
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I never saw more in my lifetime optimism.
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The only people who otherwise who were people who were very scared who about the idea of
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a black man becoming president.
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Do you mean that everybody was dancing in the streets because that day so many great
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county sheriffs were elected.
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Oh my God.
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So many great money.
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The greats of county sheriffdom.
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You've got Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
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You've got Toots Gregerson.
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Right absolutely.
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Out of Manitoba.
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You've got Toots Gregerson out of Manitoba.
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Love it.
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Is that in Canada?
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Is that a place?
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Is that a place?
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I don't know.
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Is that a place?
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Is that a place?
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Is that a place?
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Is that a park?
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Is that a park?
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Is that a park?
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Is that a park?
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I don't know.
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That took all the weight out of my sails.
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I'm sorry I actually wanted you to keep going.
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I was going to try and call it a name.
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I fucked it up I'm so sorry I wanted to hear like 30 more Toots McGregor names.
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I got Toots McGregor and then my next one was going to be Dirk Tungsten but that's just
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great.
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That's just a shout out to mystery science theater.
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Oh I thought that was a knife and a way to light bulbs.
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It was Crotea robots hardest name ever.
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Oh, is that, uh, that's Bill Corbett, I believe.
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No, Chase Colio.
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All right.
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Let's show off.
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So here's one thing that we got,
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we got a couple more clips and they're all fun
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from here on out.
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We've dealt with all the guests
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and they're very, very clear,
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consistent line of white supremacy
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and weird patriot ideology.
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Like all of these guests, there is a thread that runs
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betwixt all of them.
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And it's not a coincidence they're all on this show
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that day.
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The Venn diagram is just a circle.
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Now, I should tell you,
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there's another thing that we've been tracking
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over the years.
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And that is that Alex Jones seems to be obsessed
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with killing dogs.
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Because he's basically slitting this woman's throat
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for the New World Order.
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And he's doing it while like a little dog,
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it's like your dog looking up at you and you take a gun
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and it's smiling at you, it's licking, you know,
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it's licking its lips for at one dinner
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and you just...
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That's basically what he's doing to this poor lady,
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like it's a little dog, just a poor little trusting person.
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So, I find it hard not to think of Nank when I hear him.
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Don't you think of Nank?
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I think he fucking shot Nank in the head.
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I'm not sure, I'm just hearing this.
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I swear to God he killed Nank.
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It's a, he is singularly obsessed with this,
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like this verbal picture of killing a dog
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that you don't want to kill.
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Yeah.
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But you gotta kill this dog.
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You gotta do it.
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You gotta kill this fucking dog.
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There's nothing you can do.
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And in that circumstance that we just heard.
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I mean, sure, you can take him to a vet,
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but you don't know what the government is gonna do
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with that dog's remains.
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No.
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You gotta shoot it in the head.
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Kill it.
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Yeah.
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The dog would want it that way.
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But also...
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I got that, I actually got that at a letter once.
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In that story that he was telling right there,
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I didn't see any reason to kill that dog.
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Do you wanna listen to it again?
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Do you wanna listen to it again?
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It was like it was looking up at you
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with those puppy dog eyes.
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You had to kill it.
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Let's listen again.
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Let's listen again.
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Okay.
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See if you can hear any reason to kill this dog.
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Because he's basically slitting this woman's throat
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for the new world order.
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And he's doing it while like a little dog.
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It's like your dog looking up at you and you take a gun
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and it's smiling at you.
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It's licking, you know, it's licking its lips
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for that one dinner and you just.
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That's basically what he's doing to this poor lady.
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Like it's a little dog, just a poor little trusting person.
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There's no reason to kill that dog.
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You are just murdering a dog.
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He's looking at you, up at you hungry, like a dog.
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He's about, he's about seven years old.
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So, you know, you've built a long relationship with it.
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You love that dog.
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And you know.
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It knows you too well.
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You know that dog trusts you.
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And it gives you every single benefit of the doubt.
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And then it's just.
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Anyways, free knock.
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Yeah, I'll say the context of that is he's talking about
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like a video of Obama talking to,
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he's having like a open house.
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And a lady is like, hey, I'm having a real tough time.
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I'm homeless, you know, and he's like, well, I hope,
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I hope that the policies that we are putting out
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can help you.
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Let's talk to someone over there.
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We can see if we can talk after.
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I don't know if I can address this in the forum
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that we're in.
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Right, right, right.
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And he's like, he's trying to kill her like the dog.
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But then at the same time, like I don't think that
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that's true in terms of what Obama did in that speech.
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And then I also don't think that Alex presented,
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like if he'd been like, your dog is going to die anyway.
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Yeah.
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There was none of that.
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No, no, no.
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He was just talking about killing a healthy dog.
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No, no, no.
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What he did, no, no, no.
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What he was describing is.
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Murder.
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It was a woman who was hungry and who was homeless.
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And it is exactly like when you murder your dog
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because it's hungry and you can't afford it.
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But Obama didn't murder that lady.
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No, Obama didn't murder that lady.
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No.
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Not quite like Alex murdered Nog.
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Probably.
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Or I can't even remember the other dog's name
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that he's brought up.
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Sandra Bullock actually.
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That's it.
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Calm down.
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Hey now.
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We were in Austin and we almost went
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to Sandra Bullock's house.
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That was close.
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I didn't want to go.
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Too much Nazi iconography.
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Hey now.
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So we're gonna end this on a coda.
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Much like the end of Laila.
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This is where we get to like,
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after this entire episode where we have revealed
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Alex Jones' long standing white supremacy
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that we cannot get away from anymore.
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Indeed.
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This will be a,
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this will be a,
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this will be the Northern light from now on.
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I can't stress that enough.
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Like this is,
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this has pulled the scales from my eyes.
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I see clearly now that Alex Jones,
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for the longest time,
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has only had his principles in so much
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as they are eventually going to be applied to white people.
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That is why he is afraid of X, Y, or Z.
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Yeah.
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The vaccines.
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Yeah.
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The camps.
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All of that stuff is only about like,
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they will do this to white people.
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Eventually.
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He's not scared of that now because
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they won't do it to white.
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His president is there now.
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Yeah.
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So now,
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in 2009,
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he really fucking needs money.
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He is,
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he doesn't have a daddy.
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He needs money.
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He's got Ted Anderson who's selling gold
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and that's getting him some money,
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but it's clearly not enough.
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He's not a millionaire yet.
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It's clearly not enough.
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Yeah.
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By the way,
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ladies and gentlemen,
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we're going to start pre-sales
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of the Obama deception today.
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I'll be done with the film in a few weeks.
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It'll be mass produced and ship out.
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He's not done with the film.
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Pre-sales.
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Pre-sales.
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Please, please, please.
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Yeah.
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Give me money.
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Film be done soon.
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Be done soon.
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Yeah.
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This is indicative of like,
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I'm just trying.
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Fuck.
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I need some money.
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And it spills through onto this next clip.
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Literally, we're like a Cape Canaveral rocket base
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and we are launching,
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you know, ICBMs at the enemy.
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And we're trying to produce more info weapons
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and more powerful weapons to blow holes in the enemy.
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And we are going straight into the enemy.
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We are committed.
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We are focused.
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Now, I've got a guy who makes a lot.
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I'll bring Ted Anderson up a couple times a week now
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because gold was $280 an ounce
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when I first started plugging it.
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Now it's gone up.
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In the 930, 949, 50 today,
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I haven't looked in the last few minutes,
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so the 940 something.
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930 something.
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And rising.
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And Ted doesn't really even make money doing this.
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He buys the gold and silver when it's low
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and he sells it when it's low.
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He doesn't even make money, man.
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He doesn't make any money out of this.
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Nah, fucker.
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This isn't about a business.
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This is about you.
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This is about saving your finances.
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This is about helping you.
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That's the worst sales pitch.
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Of course.
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But it works.
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That's the worst sales pitch.
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It works on a lot of people.
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So at the end of this,
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what we have is
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a load of white supremacist guests.
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Jack McGlann.
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Glenn Spencer.
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Yeah.
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I don't know enough about George Humphrey,
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but he seems like he doesn't think Obama's black enough.
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That's tough.
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Gee humps.
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Richard Mack.
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Dick Mack.
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All of these people are fucking disastrous monsters.
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And the same show that Alex shows his true colors
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and at the end of the day,
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I mean, the reason we end the way we do it
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is because that's how he generally ends his shows.
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Trying to get some money.
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Yeah.
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Trying to get some money.
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Because all of this at the end of the day
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is about white supremacy.
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But it's also about conning people.
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It's about the con.
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It's about the con.
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Except he believes-
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It's a very effective con.
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He believes in the white supremacy first.
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Totally.
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Con is built around that.
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Totally.
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And it's very effective these days especially.
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But that's why Jim Bakker will never be
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as successful as Alex,
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because he doesn't hit those same buttons.
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Yeah.
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God, we'd be such great white supremacist con men.
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It'd be tough for me emotionally.
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We've got all the skills, Dan.
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Yeah.
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What if we made a harsh turn?
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Let's not do that.
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Look, Policy Wonks, email knowledgefight at gmail.com
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if you want us to become white supremacists.
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That joke has flown around the Facebook group.
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Oh, has it?
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Yeah, and I've thought about that.
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But it would require us not being friends anymore,
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because it would have to be a split.
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Like if we faked that,
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you could not come along with it.
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Oh, absolutely not.
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I'm fucked in the white supremacy circles.
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Your character would not allow,
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like I could make a pivot and be like,
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I've read some things or something like that, I could do that.
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Right, right, right.
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But it would be the end of our friendship.
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And then how do I do this show after that point?
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I thought about that, like, could I troll them?
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You thought of that?
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Well, I thought about the idea of like,
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could I possibly like transition this
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into trolling them as a long-term thing?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then eventually revealing,
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like, well, first of all, again, like I said,
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our friendship would be over.
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Oh no, yeah, no.
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I could not handle that.
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And then all of our donors would leave.
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And then now I'm just fucked.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You gotta start from square one.
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I just gotta hope white supremacists are generous.
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I'm not ready to make that gamble.
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Not ready.
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Because I've-
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That's the new name for our show.
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Anyway, if you'd like to find more about our show,
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you can at knowledgefight.com.
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If you are a white supremacist,
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you are not allowed to click the support the show button.
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No.
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Also don't follow us on Twitter.
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Don't join our group.
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Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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If you are looking at iTunes
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and you want to leave a review,
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boy, go fuck yourself.
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Don't need any of that.
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Jordan, it's your turn.
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And what's fun about this is I've left you with-
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A cavalcade.
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I've left you with a cheese plate in front of you.
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God, but you just cannot beat the constitutional sheriff.
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I'm talking about Richard Mack.
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It just doesn't get worse than the idea of some asshole
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who wants to turn his fucking town,
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not like a province or-
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It's a county.
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Yeah, a county.
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He wants to turn a place filled with 10,000 people
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into his own personal fucking kingdom
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where he runs the goddamn world.
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There is no idea of the middle manager
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who gets a little bit too much power
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and abuses it to the point that it is untenable.
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There is nobody worse than that fucking guy,
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the manager at your office who's a dick.
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Go fuck yourself, Dick Mack.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
