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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jardin!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan, Dan?
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What up player?
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Dan?
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What up?
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Player, what up player?
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When did this happen?
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How you doin'?
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When did this happen?
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How you doin' money?
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I'm here with my slang, and Dan is somebody who knows a lot about not talking right.
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Oh look, look, this podcast today, it's gonna be off the chain.
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It's gonna be off the...
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Oh no!
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It's gonna be on fleek!
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No!
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It's gonna be cool beans!
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You're getting worse!
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I know!
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Actually, I like cool beans.
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Um, so, this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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And that's pretty much what's going on, we've got some business to take care of before we
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get to the show.
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What's that?
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First of all, I think it is only right that we re-announce that we are going to be in
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Austin, Tejas.
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Hey!
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At Beer Land, doing a live episode on June 15th.
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Do we know the time?
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Uh, probably between 7 and 12.
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I would assume something like that.
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Somewhere around there.
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Yeah.
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So, uh...
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I hope...
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Not that I...
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I never asked.
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We could be going on at midnight, I have no idea.
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We will figure that out and get back to you.
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Who knows?
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For now, TBD.
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Yeah.
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We will be there.
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Tickets I don't think are available yet, but we will let you know as more details and
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all that stuff becomes available.
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Absolutely.
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It's a bit early.
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We're still in April, but we booked it!
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We're going!
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We look forward to meeting all of our Texas peeps living down there in occupied Texas.
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Oh, of course!
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Also, boy, I can't thank everybody enough who's donated to the show, so we have to do
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a prolonged naming ceremony.
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Oh, it's going long.
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We had a number of policy wonks to give shouts out to, otherwise this is going to get way
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too backed up.
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Is it shouts out or is it shout outs?
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I think it's shouts out.
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I think you might be right.
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Editors-in-chief.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Attorneys General.
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Exactly.
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Yes, there you go.
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So first, I'd like to give a shout out to a new policy wonk, someone who's been with
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the team for a long time.
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Very excited to see them donating.
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Very excited.
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Thank you so much, Julia.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Oh, thank you very much, Julia Stiles.
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We have loved you ever since the firstborn.
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Absolutely.
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I loved you in Save the Last Dance.
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That was great.
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Loved you in the Born-y.
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Supremacy?
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No.
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Identity?
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No, she was in the Identity and then she came back later in the Supremacy.
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Okay.
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I don't remember which movies were which.
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They're all the same to me.
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They all kind of blend together.
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Also, I'd like to give a shout out and a thank you to Andy.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much, Andy.
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Andy, where do you live?
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Andy, where are you from?
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Andy, tell me right now.
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In Kansas.
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No!
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I'd also like to give a shout out to - I apologize about this because it could be Nikki
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or Nishi.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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It's N-I-C-H-I.
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Either way, no matter how you pronounce it, we appreciate you.
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You know how I pronounce your name?
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Policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Boo!
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Boo!
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Don't boo over the policy - Boo!
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I'm sorry.
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I've got to redo it now.
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You hurt - okay.
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Anyway, this is for you.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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We really appreciate it.
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What's wrong with you?
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I don't know.
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It's terrible.
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Some would argue that was smooth.
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I would not.
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We have a couple other people to give a shout out to donated and are now globalists.
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Oh, shit!
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So I'd like to give another shout out to and a thank you to you out there, Sam.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark!
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Sam Levine.
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I loved you.
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Sam the ma'am.
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Sam the ma'am Levine.
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Little Logan.
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Very combative and angry, but at the same time very generous and we appreciate you joining
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up with the team.
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Speaking of which, I found out that I'm working with Doug Benson on May 6th.
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He's going to be in downtown Zany, so that'll be fun.
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Super fun.
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Yeah.
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We'll talk after the show.
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Nah.
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I'd like to give another shout out to one more globalist before we move along to the
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episode.
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Thank you so much, Michelle.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark!
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Anyway, thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Michelle Williams.
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I love every single movie that you've ever been in.
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She's amazing.
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She's so good.
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So good.
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What was that one with?
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Was she in that one with Julia Stiles and Heath Ledger?
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What?
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That one, 10 Things I Hate About You?
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Is she in that one?
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I don't know.
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I don't remember.
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I feel like she's not.
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I don't remember.
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She's like a really good actress.
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She is great.
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I don't know a lot of movies.
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There's a little bit of a dystopia film with Andrew Garfield where they are...
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Are you talking Spider-Man?
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No, that's pretty dystopian though.
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Sure.
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Actually, that's just our world being dystopian where Spider-Man is rebooted every other week.
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As a grim, grim present.
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No, they are like organ farms.
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So like a bunch of clones and shit get birthed and their entire lives, they're just there
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to give away their organs.
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It's brutal.
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Okay.
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It's kind of a bad movie, but I loved it.
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Great.
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Thrilled to hear it.
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Tell Doug Benson about it.
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I hear he loves movies.
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All right.
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All right, Dan.
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I'm trying to relate to you on a human level.
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This isn't the way.
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Well, you know what I'd name you.
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Asshole.
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Well, one of the ways to relate to me on a human level is if you'd like to donate to
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the show.
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Now, that was smooth.
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You can do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com and clicking to support the show.
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We really appreciate it so much.
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This chat room is saying that movie was called The Island.
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No, that's not that movie.
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Okay.
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Chat room's wrong.
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It's like, it's some long ass fucking name.
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Let's not deal with it.
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Not important.
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Sorry, I re-brought it up.
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Yeah.
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But you can donate if you'd like to.
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We really appreciate it.
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And I can't thank everybody who's donated enough.
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We're really making strides.
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We're almost at the point where this is a viable life for me in terms of the nine to
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five job.
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And I'm starting to realize that I hate to do so much business up top before we get to
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the actual show.
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But I realized that we just crossed our original goal that we set back when we started accepting
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donations.
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A goal that I thought we would never reach because I thought no one was ever going to
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donate to this show.
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I thought it was absurd.
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50 bucks?
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Exactly.
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But we set that goal and the reward for reaching that goal was that we were going to do a breakdown
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of one of Alex's documentaries, which we've already done.
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So we can't do that to reward people because we already did it.
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No, you could finish the fucking bracket.
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Oh boy, I could do that.
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Yeah.
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All right, we'll work on that.
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Okay.
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But the other thing is if we were very close to reaching another goal or like, you know,
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maybe 75% of the way to another goal and the reward for that goal was we would do a live
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show in Chicago, which we've already done, and now we're doing one in Austin also.
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We are really bad at rewarding people based on hard limits.
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We just do the things that we say we're going to hold off on.
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And don't tell you that it didn't, like, we did not tell you that we reached the goal.
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No.
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So we need to come up with some new things.
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If you have any ideas, any suggestions of things you'd like to see as rewards for us
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reaching milestones and stuff like that, I'd be very open to input.
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So please, if you'd like to tweet those at us or reach out to us at our group, go home
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and tell your mother you're brilliant on Facebook.
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If we reach another, what, I would say another $2,000 in donations, we will totally do a
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show in Sweden for you.
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We're nowhere near that.
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We will totally do a show for you.
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We're nowhere near that.
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Nowhere near that.
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Yeah, we'd go to Sweden, sure.
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Yeah.
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Fuck it.
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Yeah, for that kind of money, I'd go to Sweden tomorrow.
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Or our Finland listeners.
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Oh, yeah.
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We'd go to all of Lapland.
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But only there.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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We won't go to any of those other countries.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Let us know.
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Anyway, on to today's show.
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Yes.
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So, Jordan, we're recording this on Thursday, April 19th, and today Owen Schroyer hosted
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the show.
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So...
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Meh.
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Nothing to do with that show.
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Meh.
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Boo.
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So we're going to be going over Thursday, or I'm sorry, Wednesday's show, April 18th.
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And this is the day after the news breaks that Alex Jones has been sued by Sandy Hook
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families.
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Of course.
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So he's in a strange mood.
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I don't want to talk too much about that, although it will come up at the end of the
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episode.
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So don't think we're ignoring that.
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He teases that he's going to give a statement on it, and he's going to talk about it.
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He said he's going to give us the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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Does not say so help me.
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In classic Alex fashion, he will not...
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Does not say so help me God, though.
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Oh!
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Note that.
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Well, he doesn't need God's help to give the truth, Dan.
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Certainly not.
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But he teases it real hard and only gets to it at the end of the episode.
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So we'll deal with that along the way when we get there.
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There's a lot of stuff going on in this episode that everyone just sort of glossed over, because
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they wanted to do a little dance about the Sandy Hook stuff.
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Of course.
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There's some shocking revelations that have been missed, and we will be discussing a number
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of them.
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Who would have guessed?
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Shocking revelations were missed, because people do not listen to the entire show, Dan.
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No one understands why you do, but thank God.
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I don't even.
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So in this first clip where we're going to start, Alex Jones has some choice words to
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say about James Comey.
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Almost?
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No.
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Former director of the FBI.
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Gotcha.
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James...
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I keep trying to come up with a middle name.
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I don't know what his middle name is.
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Captain of Battlestar Galactica.
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Super thrilled to see those pictures of him hanging out with Method Man and Ghostface
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on Twitter.
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Weird.
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Weird.
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Weird.
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Makes me uncomfortable in so many ways.
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Very disappointed to find out he was backstage at a talk show.
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Yeah.
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I was hoping it was just the two...
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That they just hang out?
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Like in Coffee and Cigarettes when Bill Murray just shows up, and the RZA and the JIZZ are
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hanging out?
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100%.
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That's what I was hoping for, and I was very, very hurt.
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Ghost busting Bill Murray.
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Well, the idea of, if you went back to the early 90s, and you were like, the 36 Chambers
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had just come out, and you're like, you know what, in about 25, 27 years, you are going
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to be hanging out backstage at a talk show with the former director of the Federal Bureau
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of Investigations.
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And it's going to be cool.
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Yeah.
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They're going to be...
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For no reason.
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They're going to be smiling.
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Yes.
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Truly, we are in the darkest timeline.
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It's very weird.
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Yeah, it's so weird.
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So anyway, Alex talks some shit about Jim Comey, but there's something really interesting
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that you need to track in here, and that is that he is aware that like, boy, people keep
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suing me.
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I mean, he just radiates I'm a criminal.
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He radiates I'm disingenuous.
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He radiates I'm a pervert.
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In my view, Comey looks like a child molester.
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Okay?
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All right.
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Go ahead and sue me.
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I didn't say you're a child molester.
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I said, you look like a child molester to me.
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I wouldn't let you near my kids.
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Okay.
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Now you say Trump, you don't know, maybe Trump gets pissed on by women.
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I say Trump not.
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You just don't prove it.
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You said maybe he does.
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So now here's the difference between those two things, I just think it's very important
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to point out.
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First of all, I love the being like...
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Super self-aware about like, now I am watching every single thing I say for whether or not
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I will be sued, but I'm going to pretend like I don't even care about it.
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I have to be very clear that I said that I think you look like this thing.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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I know the law.
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But then the other thing, the reason that I paused here is that he's like, you come
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out and you say maybe Trump got pissed on, maybe he didn't, or whatever.
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When Comey was being interviewed and talking about that, the reason he said that is because
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he did an investigation, it was inconclusive, and he was asked about it.
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Yeah.
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He's like, I mean, hey, I worked with Trump, it totally could have happened, but he couldn't
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prove it though.
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If he's asked by a late night talk show host or George Stephanopoulos about it, he can't
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say, of course he did, he can't say no.
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He also probably can't do the like, I can neither confirm or deny that sort of boiler
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plate language.
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But everybody would be disappointed and pissed off about that.
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Right, exactly.
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You wish, everybody, look, I want him to go away, period.
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This is, he is the worst.
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Fuck the head of the FBI, fuck the former head of the FBI, fuck the FBI, period.
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Fine, but that's not the point here.
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I'm sorry.
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The point is that he answered a question in the way that's appropriate for him to answer,
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because he did an investigation into whether or not this tape was real, and he's like,
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I don't know.
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Right.
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I don't know.
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He doesn't know.
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He doesn't know the language, whether James Comey does or does not look like a pedophile.
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No one asked him his thoughts on the matter.
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It's just a complete, it's a very bad equivalence that he's making.
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A little bit.
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So, Comey, maybe you have sex with little kids.
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I'm not saying you do.
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It's not defamation.
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I'm saying maybe you do.
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Maybe you're a martian from Pluto.
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You say this, you say what?
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The media wants to take your gloves off.
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Let's do it.
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Let's get in the arena, Jack.
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I'm here to ram heads with you.
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I'm here to take you down.
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Liberty or death.
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Victory or death.
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No surrender.
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We all can remember back in April of last year when he was being sued by Hamdi Ulukaya
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of Chobani Yogi.
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Victory or death.
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I will fight this till my dying days.
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On this, I will stand.
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This is the hill I shall die on.
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I apologize, by the way.
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Two days later, public apology.
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Legally, I apologize 100%.
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It turns out they wanted a lot of money, and I'm totally going to apologize instead of
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that.
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Oh, it turns out I forgot what I said.
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Yeah.
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Oh, who knows?
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Oh, Jesus.
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I committed defamation.
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Whoa.
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Also, I think you're pushing the envelope of what you should do when you're in Alex
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Jones in that last bit of it when he's like, maybe you have sex with children.
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Who knows?
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Who knows?
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I mean, that is defensible in so far as maybe everybody does or does not have sex with children,
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but they do.
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Also, Comey is like 6'6".
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He's super tall.
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His reach is too far for Alex.
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There's no way.
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Alex is out of shape.
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Comey probably exercises.
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No chance.
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I bet Method Man and Ghostface are trying to enlist him for a pickup basketball game.
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He's huge.
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I do not think they were.
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You need a big man in the center.
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He's huge.
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No, you don't.
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Basketball has changed.
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Now it's all about wings, man.
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Oh, that's true.
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It's all about 3 and D, you guys.
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Yeah, you're right.
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You got to raise up your 3%.
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I'm living back in the 90s.
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Yeah, I know.
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Back when I watched.
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Basketball has grown from there.
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Yeah.
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Now, right.
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It's all about analytics now, Dan.
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I'm hearing from the chat room he's 6'8", which is not that big for a basketball player.
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That's crazy tall.
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It's not that big for a basketball player, though.
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Yeah, well, you know.
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My premise is out the window.
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What's his wisdom?
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I get it.
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You guys come from a bunch of cowardly scum.
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I don't.
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To me, it's not even courage, it's my genetics.
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Victory or death.
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Victory or death.
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You understand?
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Yeah, I get it.
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Victory or death.
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So the left is all on their ramming speed right now.
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Ramming speed.
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They're going all out.
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Well, good.
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You're finally going to man up a little bit.
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We stood up to you finally, and your reign of terror is coming to an end, and you're
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finally going to have to get out in the open and lose some skin in the game.
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I've already lost a lot of skin, Jack.
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I'm ready to lose all my skin and all my treasure and the whole thing, because my house.
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In the middle of history.
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House Jones doesn't have a future if we don't beat you, so my whole house is in.
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Should ask your house about that.
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Your houses are in now, too, and you know it, don't you?
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So we'll see whose houses, House Soros or House Jones, has victory at the end of this.
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Because I know how history works.
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Do you?
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My destruction is the seeds of your sure destruction, fools.
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Fools.
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I think he's talking about Star Wars.
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Is he doing Star Wars?
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Yeah.
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I feel like he's doing Star Wars.
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That's not history.
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No.
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No.
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No.
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Afraid not.
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You strike me down, I become a symbol.
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Yeah, you don't, Alex.
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If you get struck down, everybody's like, one, everybody like us is like, nah, well,
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I guess we gotta move on.
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Or two, everybody's like, who?
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Why?
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What an asshole.
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But you know what?
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I mean, if he does, let's say someone kills him or something like that, which I think
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would be terrible.
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Would it?
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Yeah.
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I would.
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It would.
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It would always be bad.
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But I think that if it did happen, I'd be like, boy, I kinda get why that happened.
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I think it's a shame.
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I certainly am not for it, but I would look at it and be like, these are kind of the consequences
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of this incredibly bigoted, violent rhetoric that he puts out into the world.
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You're going to end up getting people so activated in a certain way, in a negative way, that
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I see how that happens.
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Yeah.
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If you wanna go with the House metaphor, Alex, the House of Jones getting taken down is not
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the Red Wedding.
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The House of Jones getting taken down is the Lannisters getting murdered.
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Everybody's kind of cool with that.
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It's interesting that you bring that up because in this episode, Alex Jones straight up steals
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the Game of Thrones theme song and uses it for a clip video.
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Okay.
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Listen to this.
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It is a big idea.
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A new world order.
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How is it that this organization is so well funded, so organized?
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Islamic State linked militants have gained a stronger foothold in Libya.
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So that goes on for-
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I'd rather watch Game of Thrones.
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Yeah, I don't know, too.
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Nah.
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That goes on like two and a half, three minutes.
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It's the entire Game of Thrones theme song.
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I don't think that falls under fair use.
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I think that that probably is illegal.
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Yeah, no, I'm probably gonna go with that.
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Did they secure the rights for that?
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If any of our listeners want to tweet at the composer of that Game of Thrones theme and
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see if he is interested in-
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Oh, he's totally got a solid cease and desist order there.
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Yeah, telling him to stop.
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Go ahead and do that.
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He seems like a cool guy.
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He also worked on the Blade Trinity soundtrack with Orisa.
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It's full circle, man.
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It is.
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It's all around there.
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I forget that no one was listening to our pre-show conversation about Blade Trinity.
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Anyway, in this next clip, Alex talks about how fucking cool he is.
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Also, if you are listening, just kind of imagine our pre-show conversations always being about
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Blade Trinity.
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That's basically what we talked about.
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There's a lot of ground to cover.
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There's a lot.
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There's a lot going on.
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Anyway, this next clip, Alex Jones.
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First of all, he's a thrifty dude.
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And second of all, he has integrity with money.
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We have record, all-time highest traffic to infoawars.com and newswars.com right now.
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And yes, it takes a lot to fight these lawsuits, but I'm not selling a wide-body $50 million
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jet like Glenn Beck is.
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I fly a lot of the time in coach.
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What?
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A lot of the time?
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When it's some long trip or something, I'm not spending $6,000, $7,000 to fly first class
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to places like Europe.
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I'm in coach, baby.
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Now, sure, I could pay and be in first class, but then I wouldn't have the money to build
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this operation.
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I mean, I am in business.
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I wouldn't have the money to fight the globalist attacks.
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I am a war machine against the globalist.
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I am here committed to go all the way to the end.
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I want to make that clear.
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Don't let them make you think I'm losing by all these attacks.
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We're winning, and they know it, and they're pissed.
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Nope.
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I really don't think so.
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Also...
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Also, wasn't the reign of terror almost over, and at the same time, he's...
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Never mind.
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These guys are terrible.
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He's not good at this.
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When you think of war machine, you think about that ultimate fighter who beat the shit out
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of his girlfriend because he thought he was cheating on her, that porn actress, and left
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her just completely brutalized.
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I was thinking of The Avengers, but yours is way worse.
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Well, I think that's the most recent.
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I don't think war machine is relevant in the MCU.
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Is he?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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In Civil War, he got paralyzed for like 20, 25 seconds, and then immediately he was saved
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by Stark technology or whatever.
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I don't watch nerd movies.
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They're very low stakes in the MCU.
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Nerd!
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Anyway, the other thing is...
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Fine.
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Alex, how many boats do you own?
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How much of that money is coming from the operation?
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How much could you save?
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Well, he flies with those boats and coach.
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Come on, man.
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He's not going to fly first class for his boats.
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Can you imagine how bad that would be if you were just trying to take a flight?
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Here comes Alex with one of his boats coming down the aisle.
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You don't even have the window seat.
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Not fitting that in the overhead compartment.
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Ridiculous.
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Can you imagine sitting right next to Alex Jones on a United flight?
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Yeah, I can.
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Especially...
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Oh, no.
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If you're on Southwest where everybody lines up, there's no way he's lining up at his right
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ticket number.
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No.
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He's fucking going right ahead.
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Yeah.
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He's going to claim that he's a paraplegic.
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If I was sitting next to him on a flight, I'd pretend I was a globalist.
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I'd fuck with him.
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We've seen how susceptible he is.
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You know we're coming for you.
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Alex, I'm so glad you're here.
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I gotta tell you something.
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I'm half sheep.
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Something like that.
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Alex, I was born in one of the proto-cow tanks.
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You know what, though?
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You could fuck with him.
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Because I've talked about this before on the air.
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My dad...
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He's an easy lay.
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Well, my...
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Not lay.
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Well, maybe.
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But not like that.
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My dad has an interesting parallel to Barack Obama throughout some of his education and
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early life.
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Insofar as he wasn't an American citizen when he got elected?
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No.
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Not that part.
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Call Larry Nichols about that.
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My dad was at Harvard at the same time that Barack Obama was there.
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And then my dad was at the East-West Center, which is a research organization that he went
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to right after he got his doctorate.
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It's in Honolulu, Hawaii.
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Which, by the way, pick a side.
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What do you mean?
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I mean, are you East or are you West?
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Oh, no.
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Maybe both.
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It's about merging the East and West in terms of study and cultural study and stuff like
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that.
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But anyway, Obama was associated with the East-West Center.
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And Alex brings that up as a conspiracy.
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I've been there many times in my early life.
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I could just get on a plane and be like, look, my dad is deeply involved on this level.
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Oh, yeah.
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You could fucking crush it.
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He knew Obama back in college.
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Look at the records.
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I could do something like that.
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It would be fun.
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It would be really fun if I was stuck on a plane.
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I could really fuck with his head.
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Yeah, but if you were just a guy, fuck that.
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He would suck to be on a plane with.
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I gotta be.
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Well, not if you know how to play the game.
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Right.
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But that's what I'm saying.
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Half sheep or new conspiracies.
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That's the only way you play it on that plane.
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Anyway.
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Half sheep or new conspiracies.
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A lot of people say that in a lot of different situations in life.
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Yeah, I'm getting tired of hearing it.
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That's evergreen.
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If I had a dollar for every time.
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Oh, every time it's like half sheep or I don't even know anymore.
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So in this next clip, we deal with some of the recent events that have made people a
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little bit mad and rightfully so.
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Oh, Hungary.
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In the West, in the US and in Europe, they then get all the big corporate CEOs to a man
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and woman who almost pay no taxes or a multinational international diplomatic community to further
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try to create white guilt and exacerbate tensions.
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And then if it happens that you have obviously a black activist, let this activist come in.
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They won't buy anything.
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They want to use the bathroom.
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They sit there in the restaurant.
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You have a policy that you can't do that.
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What restaurant wouldn't throw you out of?
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You just came and said, I'm going to sit here.
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No, I don't want to be seated.
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I just want to sit here.
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They said, what are you?
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You have a flat tire or something?
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Is somebody coming to get you?
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No, I'm just going to sit here.
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Well, sorry, Paul.
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So you can't.
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You at least got to buy some coffee and you got to do something to be in here.
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Like somebody walks in your tire shop and says, I'm just going to sit here and drink
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your coffee.
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You're like, no, get out.
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No loitering.
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Call loitering.
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Call loitering.
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Sure.
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So Alex, earlier in the show, the official position of Infowars is bathrooms are for
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customers only, God damn it, buy a pack of gum.
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There's a clip earlier in the show that I didn't cut because it was sort of, it got
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muddy and he started yelling a bunch about Charlton Heston being on the right side of
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civil rights.
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Of course.
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I was like, I don't want to deal with this.
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Never happened.
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But he thinks that those two gentlemen who got arrested at Starbucks was a publicity
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stunt.
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Yeah.
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I'll read to you from this article.
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Rashawn Nelson initially brushed it off when a Starbucks manager told him he couldn't use
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the restroom because he wasn't a paying customer.
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He thought nothing of it when he and his childhood friend and business partner, Dante Robinson,
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were approached at their table and were asked if they needed help.
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The 23-year-old entrepreneurs declined, explaining that they were just waiting for a business
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meeting.
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A few minutes later, they started noticing, they hardly noticed when the police came into
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the coffee shop until officers started walking in their direction.
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Quote, that's when we knew she called the police on us, Nelson told the Associated Press
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in their first interview by the two black men since video of their April 12th trespassing
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arrest touched off a furor in the United States over racial profiling or what has been dubbed
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retail racism or shopping well black.
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Nelson and Robinson were led away in handcuffs from the shop in the city's well-to-do Rittenhouse
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Square neighborhood in an incident recorded on white customers' cell phones.
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In the week since, the men have met with the Starbucks apologetic CEO and have started
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pushing for lasting change in the coffee shop chain, including new policies on discrimination
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and ejecting customers.
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Quote, we do want to make sure it doesn't happen to anybody again, Robinson said.
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What if it wasn't us sitting there?
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What if it was a kid that didn't know somebody that knew somebody?
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Do they make it to jail?
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Do they die?
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What happens?
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On Thursday, they also got an apology from the Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard
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Ross, a black man who at first staunchly defended his officers' handling of the encounter.
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Quote, I should have said that the officers acted within the scope of the law and not
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that they didn't do anything wrong, Ross said.
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Words are very important.
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At a press conference, a sober us.
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All right.
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Well, no.
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At the press conference, a somber Ross said he, quote, failed miserably in addressing
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the arrests.
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He said that the issue of race was not lost on him and he shouldn't be the person making
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things worse.
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Shame on me if in any way I've done that, he said.
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Now, what you've got to realize is.
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I guess contrition is nice.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know, man.
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But what you've got to understand is this isn't a publicity stunt.
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These two dudes ended up spending about 12 hours in prison.
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What?
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They didn't get out until midnight.
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Wait, what?
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They did.
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They were held in prison until midnight.
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And they only got out because the district attorney declined to prosecute them.
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Like this is a.
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It's all right.
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This is right.
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There's a really fucked up thing.
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They were doing great.
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America.
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They made this work, guys.
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They made them sit in a cell to the point where one of them was specifically went on
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record.
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I don't think I'm going to make it out.
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I don't think I'm going to survive this whole day.
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It's incredibly fucked up.
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And the idea that Alex is just dismissing it as like, oh, these are just black activists.
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You know, and by publicity stunt.
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What?
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Yeah.
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What?
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What?
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It's crazy.
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I mean, fucking come on.
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If you were white, they would have said, hey, go away.
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Even if the cops were called, the cops would have been like, OK, now you have left Starbucks.
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So go home.
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I can't do something else.
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I can't count the number of times that I've gone into Starbucks, use the bathroom and
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left.
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I can't count the number of times I've been to my therapist's office too early.
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There's a Starbucks down the street.
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I sit there for like 15 minutes.
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No one bothers me.
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I don't buy anything.
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And I sit on my phone.
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Use the Wi-Fi.
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It doesn't fucking matter.
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I also should tell you, I used to manage a Starbucks.
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I know about their corporate policies.
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So that comes into play a little bit into this next clip.
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Do you have a card or something that allows you to be part of any, like any Starbucks
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you ever want to go to, you've just flashed this little, like, I can always use the bathroom
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card.
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No, I quit unceremoniously from getting that job.
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If anything, they should be barring me.
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They should call the police when I show up based on the, I can't come in to manage the
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store tomorrow.
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Got a better job.
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Gotta go.
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That shit.
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So one of the reasons Alex is talking about Starbucks is in response to this uproar about
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this incident that is legitimately fucked up.
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No, it's gigantic racism on a mass scale that is just in the public eye.
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Fucking, what, what, what, we're in 2018.
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Imagine how long we've been going through this shit.
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And it's all, it's all of the time.
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It's all of the time in America, two black men cannot do anything without being at a
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60% risk of having the cops called on them.
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It's insane.
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What we come down to, and Alex is manifesting it in that last clip, is this trend that dumb
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people have.
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It's not dumb, it's people with unexamined bigotry and bias in them.
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Otherwise known as bigotry and bias.
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Well, but I think we all have some sort of bigotry that we try and work against.
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The problem is when it's unexamined and when you just allow it to exist unchecked.
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And that's what Alex is manifesting.
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And what it does is it criminalizes black behavior that you would forgive and look the
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other way when white people do it.
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And a lot of people, I would say, don't recognize that that is something they do.
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It's very threatening to your identity to think that you do it.
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And it's a mess.
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It's a complete mess.
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It's disgraceful.
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Yeah.
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Well.
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No other comment.
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What is it?
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60% of white people support Trump?
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So fuck off.
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That's it.
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No, I think it's actually closer to like 80%.
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No, it's not.
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I think it is.
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It's not that high.
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You're talking about that stat that just came out about evangelical Christians.
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Oh, yeah.
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Fuck them.
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Fuck every evangelical Christian alive now.
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I think it was like mid-70s support for them in evangelical communities and like 30s for
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the general public.
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It's crazy.
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Of fucking unreal.
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So that event happened at Starbucks, and Starbucks announced that they were going to do some
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sensitivity training, which is good.
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I don't know if it'll work, but God bless them for trying something.
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Are they going to then research some way to give those guys 12 hours of their life back?
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I think from what I've seen, I'm very glad that it ended as decently as it did.
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As amicably as it did?
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Yeah.
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Because it's entirely possible they could have been murdered by the cops.
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That's a totally legitimate fear.
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That's a totally legitimate fear.
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I went to Starbucks to have a business meeting, and then I was murdered by the fucking cops.
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There was a fucking 60-40 chance that that was going to happen.
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60-40 seems high, but it's a real possibility.
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It's fucked up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's a mess.
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So it is good to address these issues.
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I don't know if corporations are best fit- No.
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Answer is no.
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No, of course not, because you've had jobs before, and they've had the videos you have
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to watch about harassment and stuff like that.
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No one really takes it seriously, all that shit.
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I don't know if it's going to be effective, but B, that doesn't make it.
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That happened.
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There was an uproar about it, and then some guy made a video.
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I don't like the some guy made a video comment coming from you.
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I think it's actually kind of funny.
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There's this guy, and he made a video of him going into Starbucks, and I haven't watched
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the rest of his videos.
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He might be a total asshole.
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I have no idea.
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But it seems to me this guy, because I watched the video in question, and it's him, and he's
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like, I'm about to go into this Starbucks and get my reparations coffee.
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I'm going to go get my free coffee.
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I like it.
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And so he goes in.
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I'm a big fan.
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So he goes in, and he's like, hey, I heard y'all are racists.
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I want a free coffee.
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And the person behind the counter is like, oh, I heard that story.
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That is really fucked up.
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Yeah, I'll give you a coffee.
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So that is- All right, now I just-
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That's the video.
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Alex is going to set it up, and then again, as someone who has managed a Starbucks, I
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have some things to say on the other end of this.
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Okay.
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Yeah, okay.
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So this fella, it's up on Infowars.com.
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It's Ho-Tep Jesus at Vibe High, I'm going to get him on the show.
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Natural ally of Alex Jones.
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Goes into the Starbucks.
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The stone was in response to the news that Starbucks is set to close 8,000 stores for
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an afternoon for race-based training.
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And also I have an article here that the type of race-based training they're doing, implicit
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association test, the professors that developed it said it's a fraud and doesn't work.
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So again, it's all about creating white guilt.
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And so he walks in and talks to this young woman working, going to college at the same
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time.
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And she says, oh, I heard about that, about the racism Starbucks.
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Yes, here's your free coffee.
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So let's go ahead and roll that video.
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You got to go inside, get my free coffee.
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Y'all ready?
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Y'all ready?
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Are y'all ready?
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He's mugging to the camera and having a great time.
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Of course.
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Why wouldn't you?
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He goes in and he gets the coffee and the two of them, like him and the person who's
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working there have a really nice conversation and it ends up being like, yeah, this is actually
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my last shift before I end up going back to school, got finals and stuff like that.
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He's like, oh, I hope you have a good time with that.
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Best of luck with that.
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Yeah.
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You're very nice because the stunt didn't quite work because I don't, I don't think
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that, I honestly think that that guy was trying to make a comedy video and the person behind
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the counter was super nice and he's like, I'm not going to beat her up.
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I think that, I think the plan was, was actually to, to make a whole mess of things and be
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like, I deserve it, you know, that whole thing and then waiting to come back.
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It's unclear exactly, but here's what I know based on being someone who managed a Starbucks.
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If Starbucks had set, okay, change the game.
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We're not closing 8,000 stores for race bias training.
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Every black person gets free coffee for a day.
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That's a whole weirder situation.
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I think I prefer that.
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It's like when, it's like when Taco Bell gives you a free taco for taco Tuesday or whatever,
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whatever.
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It's no day.
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I mean, it's a little bit different, but I'd be fine with it.
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Well, see, here's the thing.
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Starbucks, they make their coffee and then every about two hours you got to flip it.
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And so they end up with tons of coffee that they don't end up selling.
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The company is keenly aware of that and wants to nurture the image of being a friendly establishment.
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So generally speaking, managers are trained and to, to encourage customer, their, their
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employees to give coffee to homeless people that come in because they know it's just going
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down the drain anyway.
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And if you can create this sort of place where people feel safe, feel cared for, that sort
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of thing, you get much more mileage out of that than the coffee you're going to throw
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away because it's not fresh anymore.
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You would always be giving coffee to people who come in, but that doesn't address this
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piece.
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The other piece is they know they're throwing away the coffee and they know that these people
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are close to minimum wage, low pay, low paid employees.
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They don't want to fight.
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So if anyone comes in and is like, I demand X, Y, or Z, you just give it to them.
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Because that's how it works in the service industry, generally speaking, when there's
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no loss for the company and oh, what do you want, your employee to get into a fight with
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this guy who's clearly videotaping it or whatever?
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It's absolutely protocol for you to just be like, here you go.
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Well, it's like how now if you shoplift, employees are trained to be like, get on out of here.
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Let them go.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's not worth it.
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What are we doing?
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It's not worth it to argue.
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It's not worth it to try and chase down somebody trying to steal something that's insured anyway
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or isn't a loss to the business.
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Right.
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Unless you're Orlando Jones in The Replacements.
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Sure.
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I don't remember that movie.
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It's great.
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I watch it at least three times a year.
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It's fantastic.
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There's a few things that I can take away from this clip.
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It's the anti-union movie, which is strange.
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Yeah.
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Is it?
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Yeah.
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It's super anti-union.
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If you analyze what's going on inside that movie, it's purely anti-union and pro-ownership.
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It's bananas.
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It's like every argument that you've ever heard somebody make where it's like, oh, these
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baseball players are overpaid and you're like, if they didn't get the money, it's going more
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towards billionaires.
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There's all that money.
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Give them the money.
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They're the ones who are making all the good stuff.
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Sure.
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Anyways.
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I'm sorry.
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I could talk about The Replacements for so long.
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It's insane.
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That will replace Blade Trinity in the next pre-show.
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So the thing here, too, is that a little bit later, Alex does say something to the effect
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of if black people aren't happy here, they should go to Africa.
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No.
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A lot of people have-
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The people that we know in Africa are like where white people should leave.
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Yeah.
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That is murky territory for him rhetorically.
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It's very strange.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A lot of people have been posting clips about that and I've seen it posted and like, oh,
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this is super racist.
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And like Alex Jones says tons of racist things.
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I think that this one is-
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I don't think we've ever documented any.
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Hundreds of them.
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But I think this one is actually slightly unfair because I think people are taking him
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a little bit out of context because he's not saying go back to Africa or anything like
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that.
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What he's saying isn't okay, but what he means by it and what isn't being captured by the
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people who are critiquing it is what he's saying is you should look at what's going
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on over there and be like, oh, it's good over here.
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It's still bad.
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Which is an even worse non-argument.
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It's still bad.
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It's not worse.
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It's still bad, but it's not the same thing as like you don't like it here, get out.
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I don't know.
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I think-
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Because that's the way it's being pitched.
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I think it might be worse.
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How?
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That non-argument is fucking insane because you can use that for literally anything.
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For any- like, oh, you care about human trafficking?
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Look at human trafficking elsewhere.
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Be happy with the status quo wherever you're at.
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That is a really offensive argument to any human being.
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It is offensive and it only leans in towards complacency to a certain extent, but I don't
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think it's as bad as-
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It's like whenever people are like, oh, you think there's no difference between the Democrats
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and the Republicans?
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The Democrats say that we should be incrementally better in some respects and then support the
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status quo in every other way and then capitulate on every other thing.
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You may be right.
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You may be right.
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I don't know.
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It's interesting, the outright white nationalism of you don't like it, get out versus the stop
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you're complaining is worse elsewhere.
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I don't know.
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It's an interesting point.
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I don't know how to unpack that, really.
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They're both bad.
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I guess that's the bottom line.
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I think that's where we land.
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Don't say either of those things, dumbass.
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They're not great.
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Speaking of not great, we got a new guest in the house.
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Great transition.
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We have a new guest.
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This guy is a street artist.
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Are you excited?
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Hotep Jesus?
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No.
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All right.
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Sambo.
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Sambo.
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That's it?
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Yep.
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All right.
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I like the one-word name.
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Alex fancies him a conservative Banksy.
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That doesn't happen, make sense, anything.
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What you really have going on here is a guy who used to, and still does, post a bunch
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of pro-Trump street art.
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I went to his website and I checked it out.
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What does that even look like?
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Just weird photoshopped things of Trump being awesome and giving the bird to people.
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Weird Hillary Clinton with a bunch of prison tats and saggy boobs.
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I really feel like that's more ironic than anything else.
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That is only funnier when you realize that he means it.
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It's straight up propaganda, just in a different medium.
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It's all just Trump propaganda.
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It's a complete backfire.
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If you saw a street art with Trump giving you the finger, you'd be like, yeah, fuck
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that guy.
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You wouldn't be like, look at how great he is.
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I'm not sure I'd be like that.
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I wouldn't be like, fuck that guy.
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I'd be like, this feels familiar.
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Did he put that up?
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Yeah.
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The thing that I think is really fucking funny is that this guy's sort of motto or ethos
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is conservatism is the new punk.
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It's very clear that what he means by conservatism is this new Trump, no nothing-y nativist.
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White nationalism.
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Yes.
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It's that sort of version of conservatism.
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What is this?
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The 80s again?
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It's all backing up Trump, right?
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I would say that conservatism-
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Poorly.
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It's backing up Trump poorly.
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Conservatism being punk would make sense if, back in the late 70s, the sex pistols
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all of their songs were just about the DuPont family and how awesome they were.
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Either that or like, why did we get rid of Nixon?
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He was great.
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We all remember all of those great classics by the Ramones about Howard Hughes, how he
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should be president.
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You know what was amazing about the Velvet Underground?
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Love the war on Iraq.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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So this guy is a mess, but you should expect that.
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Here in this first clip we hear of him, we find out some of the company he keeps.
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Okay.
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You know, I was recently in Austin with the Proud Boys, and three bars asked us to leave.
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They said, we don't want your type here, and I couldn't help but wonder, what the hell
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type are you talking about?
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The left has gone into just a hysterical authoritarianism.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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You don't want the Proud Boys in your bar.
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That's authoritarian.
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By the way, the corporate CEO thing that he mentioned earlier, what he was talking about
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was the tax repatriation, I assume.
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That is entirely facilitated by Trump's tax plan.
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That's his entire goal there.
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To imagine that it's some sort of globalist plot is insane.
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It's ridiculous.
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It's out and out trying to change reality into something that fits within your narrative.
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Now, I know this isn't unusual for Alex Jones.
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I know this isn't unusual for what we're talking about here.
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No.
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But within the context of this clip, it's even more egregious.
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This is fucking stupid.
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I think the Proud Boys should be banned from every fucking business that there's ever been.
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There should be... Look, if Starbucks closes 8,000 stores for racial bias training, they
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should also close 8,000 stores to teach people about the Proud Boys and how to throw them
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out smoothly.
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And how to get rid of them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just keep yelling cereal names at them.
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They'll get really excited.
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They'll be impressed that you can name cereals.
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Well, everybody is.
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Yeah.
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I'm hearing from the chat room that the Dead Kennedys wrote California Uber Alice about
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Jerry Brown being eventually... What's this?
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Being... Who cares?
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All right.
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I shouldn't read the chat room.
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Good work.
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I was going to try and pivot that into something about...
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Your transition skills failed you, Dan.
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Yeah.
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I was going to try and work that into another punk band writing a song about Lee Iacocca.
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Just because his name came to me randomly.
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All right.
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But be that... Nope.
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Not saying be that as it may.
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Not going to do it.
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Yeah.
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I'm pretty sure priests didn't write a song about how great Trump was.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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So, Sabo, throughout this entire thing, Alex is like, street art.
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Love it.
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I'm sure he does.
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He's like, we got to get an Infowars art thing going.
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You, Ben Garrison, let's do this.
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So, he's trying to now make a Infowars... Not going to lie, I would go to an Infowars
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street gallery.
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It's not going to happen.
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This is going to go down much like the Patriot music record label Alex was going to start
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three years ago.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But Alex has to walk this weird line because vandalism is illegal.
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Using these street art things, these installations that Sabo does, it's technically illegal.
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Now, I'm no narc.
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I don't give a shit what he does.
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I'm fine with it.
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I think he's stupid.
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But I don't care on the legal aspect.
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But Alex has to-
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And probably working at cross purposes to what he's saying that he should be.
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Possibly.
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It might just remind people about how much they don't like Trump.
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Exactly.
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But-
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And it kind of makes Hillary look cool as fuck.
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No.
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You should see that picture.
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It doesn't look great.
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All right.
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But the thing is, Alex has to walk this really weird line where he can't encourage his audience
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to commit acts of vandalism because that's like, he knows that it's illegal.
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It's very weird.
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So he has to sort of figure it out and do the best he can.
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In this next clip, Sabo talks about the difference between his school of conservatives and these
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dumb, dumb liberals.
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The thing is, Republicans, they just want to have barbecues and raise their kids and
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have a job.
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Everyone on the left is politically active.
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We need to learn to do the same.
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I know it sucks.
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Politics isn't sexy.
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But unfortunately, if we don't do it, man, they're just going to run us over.
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No, I agree.
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It's survival.
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And I want all the listeners to learn from you about street art.
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Yeah.
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That's going to work.
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What would they learn?
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I think Alex thinks that his Hail Mary is street art because he's talking to a street
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artist.
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That's why that happens.
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Yeah.
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He's a chameleon.
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He's molded.
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He's very, very susceptible to literally anything anyone says on his show.
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Whatever you're talking about is the most important part of the info war.
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Absolutely.
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So that thing that Sabo-
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Buy pants that you know might not fit.
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No, that's ageism.
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That's old school information warfare.
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Random pants.
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But Sabo's saying, I think I kind of actually agree with for a different reason.
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I think that these Republican conservatives that he's talking about, they do just want
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to have a barbecue.
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And they want to ignore that the comfort that they're enjoying is built on the back of exploitation
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that's usually racist and sexist in nature.
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Right.
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And to confront that is a nightmare to them.
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Which is what the liberals, that they're angry about, not all liberals certainly, but the
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liberals that they're particularly mad at are the people who have gotten to the point
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where they have realized, oh, shit, our comfort is based on basically a whipping boy, a metaphorical
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whipping boy in terms of underprivileged classes.
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And for us to just sit back and enjoy a barbecue while we know that that's the case is the
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moral equivalent of actively supporting that system.
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And therefore they are very politically motivated.
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So I agree with them.
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Absolutely.
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If you support-
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I agree with them.
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I agree with them that are essentially white supremacists in action, whether or not they
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are white supremacists in what, expression?
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Right.
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You are still a white nationalist.
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Yes.
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Like that is what you are doing.
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You are condoning it by your inaction.
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Reminds me of that old thought experiment, you know, the ones who walk away from Amalius,
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I believe is how you pronounce that.
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Would you rather fight a duck-sized horse or a lot of horse-sized ducks?
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Well, that's a theoretical question.
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Would you rather-
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Would you rather, would you fight yourself or fuck yourself if there was a clone?
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I believe that's the-
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The classic-
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The classic thought experiment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I just remember-
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That was Plato, I believe.
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I just remember this from an ethics class I took in college, just this idea of like
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a society that's perfectly comfortable and utopian.
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And at a certain point, everybody, when they get to a certain age, it's revealed to them
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that the reason that their society is so comfortable and utopian is that one kid is being beaten
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like a dog, like a dog that gets beaten.
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You know, just a-
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All right.
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It's a savage thing.
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That kid lives a miserable existence, but because of that, everyone else gets to be
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super happy.
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Okay.
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And the idea is-
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
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Right.
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The idea is would you walk away from that idyllic community and that society knowing
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that it's built on the back of brutal abuse of an innocent person.
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Right.
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And Alex wouldn't.
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Of course not.
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No.
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No.
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And conservatism right now absolutely wouldn't.
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Is that a thought experiment or just like an elucidation of what it's like to be black
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in this country?
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That might be what's behind it, but it's an old school thought experiment that I think
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every philosophy student ends up running into.
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Right.
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But I remember it from an ethics class.
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Would you, that's basically the, would you save five people by purposefully killing one
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or would you, through inaction, wind up killing five people?
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Somewhat.
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It's not as cut and dry as those just like simple utilitarian arguments.
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Yeah.
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But who cares?
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I have bigger things to talk about about Sabo.
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Sabo accidentally slipped.
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Sabo fucked up.
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Okay.
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In this next clip, he talks about a billboard that he defaced.
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Which is fine.
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I'm not a narc.
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Like I told you.
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I don't give a shit.
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You want to deface billboards?
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Have that.
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Well, so long as he doesn't deface Saba, the great Chicago rapper who put out a wonderful
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new album.
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Saba versus Sabo.
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Yeah.
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We need him to go against Soba.
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The noodles?
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Yes.
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So what you've got here is he's talking about this billboard that he defaced.
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And what he did is there was a woman on it, I believe a figure skater, I can't remember
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the exact visual.
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But it's a picture of Al Franken, who looks like he's groping that lady.
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Remember that whole thing?
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It's Al Franken from that picture blown up and put on that billboard.
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Now here's where he fucks up.
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He says that someone contacted him and told him to make that billboard.
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Sabo is admitting that he had advance notice that this story was coming out, which is incredibly
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fucked up.
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Listen to this clip.
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I have people that call me up and say, hey, I have someone in the State Department that's
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going to go speak against who's the one Groper guy.
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Oh, there's so many.
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Well, anyways.
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Well, most of them are Groper's, I'm at Weinstein or no, the comedian, Al Franken, I get phone
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calls saying, hey, man, I have someone in the State Department, she's going to come
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out pretty soon.
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So we coordinate.
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I did the Al Franken billboard with them.
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And it's like, and we affected some change.
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How much change I had a part of, I have no idea.
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I just know that that went viral, it went national.
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And and that took that took a lot of balls, man.
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I was laying in bed going, oh, my God, someone's going to die tomorrow morning.
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I told my crew, if you don't want to do this, tell me now.
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And they said, nope, let's do this.
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And we practiced this over and over and over again until it became a dance.
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And we got that thing up there in like 15 minutes.
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It was the most beautiful thing in the world.
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He had very short notice, like the Lambada.
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He had very short notice from somebody in the State Department that might have that
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seems a little bit a little bit self-aggrandizing, but that might have just been how there's
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nobody in the State Department because Tillerson didn't hire anybody.
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But that might have been just someone bluffing or like trying to make the thing seem more
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important than it was.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Here is a probable coincidence.
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Quote from this CBS News article.
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Hours before the allegations against Senator Al Franken became public Thursday, Trump ally
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Roger Stone seemed to know they were coming.
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A Twitter account linked to the former Trump adviser posted a quote from Stone in the early
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hours Thursday morning that suggested he expected allegations involving the Minnesota Democrat
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to go public.
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Quote, Roger Stone says it's Al Franken's time in the barrel.
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Franken next in a long list of Democrats to be accused of grabby behavior.
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Later in the morning, that story came out.
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Mary Ann Tweeden, who went on to accept Franken's apology and say an investigation doesn't need
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to happen.
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It's all very suspicious stuff.
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I have very little doubt that the person who contacted him and told him, hey, overnight,
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we need to get this billboard up was one Roger Stone.
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And because Sabo is so, he's an acid casualty.
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He's like a 50-year-old dude or so.
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Yeah, I was going to say.
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He does not he does not sound like somebody on the cutting edge of street art.
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Well, I mean, say what you want about his art.
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I don't really I can't critique art.
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I'm not that I don't have that skill set.
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But what I can do is draw weird parallels between someone who is not media savvy, accidentally
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saying on Alex Jones's show that someone contacted him and paid him to make this billboard on
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short notice, clearly, basically overnight.
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Roger Stone tweeted 12 hours before the allegations came out.
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It seems like there's probably maybe Roger Stone everywhere.
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It might be a where is he not?
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It's probably why is it that we find Roger Stone behind so many different bullshit?
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It's probably a coincidence.
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No, I don't think so.
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You know what?
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I think Roger Stone.
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I think Roger Stone might actually control everything.
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When he said someone in the State Department, it made me think of Steve Puchenik.
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But I don't think that Steve Puchenik and Roger would have been collaborating on that.
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I don't think that's the case.
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I think it's Roger throwing around State Department references.
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Yeah, why not?
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Or whatever.
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He's Roger Stone.
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He'll throw anything around.
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This is a massive, massive slip on their part.
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Like the idea that street artist Sabo knew about the Al Franken stuff before and Roger
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Stone, Infowars narrative specialist.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Trickster God.
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I don't know if the producer and dirty trickster knew about it in the same time frame.
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Roger Loki Stone.
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Roger Propagandist Stone getting a street artist to make propaganda for him about a
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story that he knows is going to come out.
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It just seems too likely.
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It's crazy.
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With nannas.
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Is there any way that we could turn Roger Stone's powers for good?
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No.
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I feel like there's some sort of-
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Not after this last 30 year streak of his.
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40 year streak.
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There's some kind of Darth Vader narrative that we could pull Roger Stone into, right?
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No.
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Like he has to die in a tragically heroic way.
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The redeeming of the anti-hero.
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No.
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Come on, man.
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No.
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Now you're going Star Wars on him.
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I know.
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Anyway, we got one more clip of Sabo real quick before we get to take a break.
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And here he advocates that everyone get into street art.
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They're coming after everybody.
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We are fighting for our lives.
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We must get out of cyberspace and get onto the street and then fire back from the third
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dimension into cyberspace.
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I don't know who did that here in Austin, but it's terrible.
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You know, it is.
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And you know what?
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All you have to do is get your butt up on one billboard and you'll realize what to do
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and what not to do.
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The first one's always scary.
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The second one's kind of scary.
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But you're right.
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Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter, he wants nothing less than a civil war and he wants
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to destroy us.
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He said that straight out pretty much.
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And you know what?
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He's not going to destroy us.
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Twitter is going to go the way of Myspace.
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Probably not.
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But I do like this idea of like, hey, all your listeners just get up on billboards.
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Your first one's going to be weird, but then I get better.
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You might fall.
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Eh, who knows?
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So we've now had Sabo make a very startling admission.
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What's up?
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Third dimension back into cyberspace.
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Right.
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Alex is getting petty.
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Gotta do it.
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Right.
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So we had to take a quick break because I had to use the restroom.
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But let me tell you, when we get back, we have one of the lamest propaganda piece slash
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special reports from Millie Weaver to discuss.
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We generally don't talk about her all that much on this show.
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I'm a big fan of her anytime Rainbow Snatch shows up.
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We need to discuss this one because it's next level stupid.
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And we will be dealing with that in just about two minutes.
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We will be right back.
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Thank you, folks.
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Now we're back.
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All righty, there we go.
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Here we are.
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So, Jordan, as I mentioned, it's time for us to take a look at a special report from
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Millie Weaver.
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Uh-huh.
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Now, what happened, I guess, actually, I don't need to explain anything.
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I think Alex will set it up perfectly in this next clip.
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Joining us is Millie Weaver, our intrepid reporter who loves to work on the road with
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her great cameraman and editor, Gavin Winch.
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And last night, she called me very excited.
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She goes now on Infowars.com, MeTube Movement assaults conservative woman for asking questions
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about the Clintons and their history of sexual assault.
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Oh, my, what a scoop, what a scoop.
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So what do you think about that so far?
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I don't know.
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I think it's a valuable thing to ask about.
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I think for too long, they have been protected by so many influential powers that that is
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an issue that should be brought up and challenged.
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Like the fact that it is a men thing, it's a dudes thing, not a party thing, not an ideological
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thing.
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It's something that men should be fucking regulated about.
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So yes, I support this now.
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I assume it's not going to go well.
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Man, man.
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Oh, it's not going to go well?
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This does not go well, no.
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So what ends up happening, I don't remember exactly how these clips go.
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But I think in this first clip of Millie's actual report, we get to hear the question
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that she asks.
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I'm not entirely sure, this might, I don't know, this might be just Alex talking.
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I need to label clips better.
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Okay.
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Basically, Tarana Burke got really upset when I asked about the possibility of the hashtag
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Me Too movement becoming too partisan and being used as a political weapon.
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And if, you know, essentially that was going to take away from the mission, which is to
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help victims of sexual assault, which immediately then she turned nasty, was like, oh, well,
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I wonder who you voted for and just suck her mob audience on me with this mob-like mentality
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that all started cheering her on and, you know, supporting her in trying to bully and
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intimidate me into silence.
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So I would say a couple of important things, and the first I think is the most important.
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And what she is accusing, because it's not a question, what she's accusing this hashtag
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Me Too meeting of being is too partisan or that it's being, you're turning it into a
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partisan thing.
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That is what Millie is intending to do by going there and asking this question.
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Don't point that out.
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She's literally doing the thing that she's accusing them of doing.
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She has no concept of that.
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It's bananas.
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Impossible for her to understand.
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Philosophically, it is mind-blowing.
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Because it's not inability to realize this.
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I disagree.
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I think they are legitimately too dumb to examine their own actions.
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No, no, no.
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Because this is a setup.
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Like this isn't, we talk about good and bad faith all the time.
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This is the definition of bad faith.
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Stupid v. evil.
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Well, no, not even that.
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Because I think those words are too loaded to even, I think good and bad faith is much
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more relevant and important because she didn't go there with a video camera to act like she
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doesn't live in fucking Akron.
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She flew to Akron to go to this fucking speech.
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And she did so specifically in order to hopefully antagonize a response that she can get on
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video that will feed into the narrative that she wants to push.
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It's just like James O'Keefe, all he wanted to do is find out the truth, Dan.
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It wasn't about any kind of partisan agenda.
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Time out.
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Can you imagine a scenario where she goes to Akron and she's like, here's my question.
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And Tarana Burke is like, that's a very good point.
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And I think there's a conversation that needs to be had and we are having it.
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And I think that you might just be missing some pieces of it.
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And it's actually just like, not great video.
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And then she goes on Alex's show the next day and it's like, hey, it's really amazing.
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Actually, I went there and they were really, they were willing to have a dialogue and it's
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like, there's free coffee from Starbucks for being a conservative.
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There's no way that that works.
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That doesn't fly for Alex, that doesn't fly for what she gets paid to do.
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She went there in bad faith in order to ask a question that was meant to antagonize and
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meant to accuse.
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It was not meant to be like, hey, I care about Juanita Broderick.
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I care about Kathleen Willey.
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I care about these people that Bill Clinton has allegedly sexually assaulted.
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I care about that.
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It was what the fuck's wrong with you?
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You care about Democrat assaults and stuff like that.
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And I think that's intellectually dishonest because I think, yeah, I think like, not just
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that, not just that.
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But it is, it is just like Alex whenever he pulls that bullshit where immediately after
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some sort of tragedy happens, he has no concept of like, I, I feel empathy for the victims.
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None of that.
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It is purely, I am going to aggressively make this worse.
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That's my entire goal here is to give, I could not give less of a shit about who he hurts.
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All I want to do is hurt him.
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It has nothing to do with, and it's not even retribution.
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It's not even, I want to, I want to hurt him in response to the damage that he's caused.
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It's just, I am irrationally driven by Larry Nichols' bullshit.
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Yeah.
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And we'll hear a bit of her actual presentation of the question in a little bit and we'll,
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we'll see what, what's what.
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I assume that it is very fair minded and she's got, she's willing to listen to opposing viewpoints.
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If I know anything about Millie Weaver, it's that she is about sincerity.
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She's about the new sincerity.
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Great wigs.
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Hugely into great wigs.
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She should have a podcast on maximum fun, she's so into the new sincerity.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Sounds right.
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Yep.
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She's all about just the truth and vulnerability and is not at all creating a complete bullshit
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version of things in order to serve her purposes.
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So in this next clip, she talks more about what she had to endure at this, at this place.
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Just so much.
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In the name of journalism.
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Tragedy.
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And a mob of protesters came out.
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I wasn't even sure what it was about because their banners said, take back the night.
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Do a little bit of research.
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Real quick.
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Um, what she's...
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I wasn't sure what it was about.
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Right.
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Do, go to the Facebook group.
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What she's describing here, and it's going to come back and play out later.
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Uh, what she's describing is she's setting up a narrative cause she's edited her video
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and she wants to make it seem like she asked this question, got kicked out and she walked
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out and all of a sudden there was a protest going on that wasn't going on before.
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Oh, it's a mystery protest.
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Never go...
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Where did it come from?
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Right.
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So as I'm approaching it, I start getting flipped off and having women yelling at me.
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And that's when I realized, wait a second, this is the hashtag me too movement.
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And they were probably observing in a separate room cause they were streaming the video to
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other rooms.
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And that's when I realized, oh my gosh, you know, these are, these women are irate.
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They're very mad at me.
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Um, essentially Tarana Burke gave them her mission because they had all established rapport
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with her.
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What?
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She did a really good job throughout the, the meeting, the, the speech to make everyone
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establish rapport with her and seeming like she's just trying to help everyone.
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And she's just this,
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Well, I mean, I can say this, Tarana Burke, uh, Tarana Burke and these women, we haven't
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played the video yet.
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It's called a segment.
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They're just so vicious.
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They're so hateful.
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And you're a woman.
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It makes you in there without your camera person by yourself and then they've obviously
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been trained and ready for somebody to try to come in and this is how they act like vicious
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entitled arrogant piranhas.
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The universities have turned into these anti free speech, bullying dens.
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So that's, that's sort of like, they've built the narrative of what happened.
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Um, but we should really be like, we, we should not make bones about what this is about.
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This is what this is about.
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If you support free speech, then you need to support info wars.
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You support Millie and our crew valiantly going into these den of, of aggressive authoritarian
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cult members and being assaulted and yelled at and hissed at.
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Her camera attempted to take, I guess, I guess steal.
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If you stand with us and we need your financial support, we've got products you need.
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So he uses, he uses all of this bullshit that Millie is spinning out of this story.
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Do you know why the camera man wasn't there?
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You couldn't afford to pay him because you haven't bought and Millie's weirdo husband
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Gavin could have come along, had signed up for auto ship.
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We would have gotten all of this good shit on video, but because you didn't, we're going
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to conjecture about it in a way that maybe supports exactly what we already wanted to
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say.
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Maybe.
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So I believe this is the clip of the actual question being asked.
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Pay very close attention.
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Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick all came out with sexual allegations against
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Bill Clinton decades ago.
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They originated this idea of coming out against someone who's powerful, but they came out
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before these other women came out against Harvey Weinstein.
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Now why were they excluded from the hashtag me to movement?
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They weren't.
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So very quick, important, they weren't fucking, yeah.
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Her response was who said they were excluded, right?
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Which is a fair question.
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Here's Millie's response.
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They were not included in the time magazine art.
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I would say ask time magazine about that.
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That's an editorial issue, not seems like the me to movement wasn't in control of what
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the time magazine people editors of time.
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This is a misdirected question.
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You're angry about something and you're clear, like it's clear what you're doing.
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This isn't about a sincere question article.
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None of the women were interviewed.
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Do you, are you worried at all that the hashtag me to movement may become too partisan and
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be used as a political weapon?
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Back it up for a minute.
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They're saying, who did you vote for?
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So the whole point is they're making it partisan.
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The woman marches over, starts trying to take the microphone.
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I want to point out, you went up, you asked the question, they gave you the microphone,
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you did this the proper way.
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So this is where that like accusing your enemy of doing what you're doing is happening in
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real time.
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And this is why it's so easy is because it's so murky and it's really easy to bait someone
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into a situation like this.
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It's very easy for this collection of people who are just having a meeting about sexual
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assault to be painted as liberal or pro-left leaning by someone who is there specifically
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antagonizing for the right in order to push them in that direction.
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Oh, it's so partisan.
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Are you worried that the me too movement is becoming too partisan, Dan?
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What if the me too movement doesn't vote for the guy who is relaxing protections that women
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need even more?
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Why would you think that they aren't as valuable in the me too movement?
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Is there any reason why the me too movement might be against the guy who is making the
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me too movement his enemy?
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Is there any possible reason?
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It's partisanship, Dan.
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It's clearly partisanship.
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It's not part of the very stated fucking objective of the group to fight against assholes who
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commit sexual assault.
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Well, she works for Infowars and she's coming in to ask a clearly partisan question in order
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to paint partisanship on the group.
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And I mean, if I were to wargame this, I know the reason is because some of the most valid
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criticisms and very sincere issues about Trump are related to sexual assault stuff.
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Yeah.
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Some of the most...
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Do you mean all the sexually assaulting that he did?
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Yes.
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The fact that he raped his wife?
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Yeah.
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Might have something to do with that.
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Yeah.
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The fact that our president is a fucking rapist?
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No, but doing this is deflection of that.
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It's in service of that.
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They don't care about this for any other reason than that.
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This is just a set piece in order to work towards that sort of defense.
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Right.
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All this is out of control.
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It's rampant liberalism run amok.
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Of course.
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It's universities.
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So, Tarana Burke, when she's interacting with Millie, it goes on and she's like, well, I
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mean, if you want to talk about even earlier stuff, we got to talk about Anita Hill.
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And the crowd claps.
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And Alex in the studio is like, what?
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He just asked her out.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Great.
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And then he's like, if you want to talk about this stuff, what about Roy Moore?
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You know, and...
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He was a patriot.
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Yeah.
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Oh, what about the governor of Missouri?
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Don't worry about that.
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But so what Alex...
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Patriot.
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How Alex responds to that is like, all they can do is throw back Republican examples.
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I'm like...
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That's the fucking...
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No, but who cares about that?
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That is what your bit was.
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Yeah.
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Millie...
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Pointing out examples where it was Democrats who did it.
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When you came in, the accusation that you made was about people from a specific party.
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You can't be mad that that is the rebuttal.
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Why is it...
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Why can't you put it fucking together?
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That it has nothing to do with party.
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And any time you give a dude power, he's going to fucking abuse it.
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Right.
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That is what's going...
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Not every...
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I'm sure...
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No, I don't even care.
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I'm sure...
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If you give a dude power, there's a super huge chance he's going to abuse it, directed
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towards women, because he's going to get away with that shit.
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I'm sure Louis C.K. was a very liberal dude.
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He seemed to be pretty liberal in his politics.
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Oh, I'm sure he voted for every liberal politician that could ever happen.
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He called Donald Rumsfeld the lizard on the Opie and Anthony show.
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Well, Donald Rumsfeld actually is a lizard.
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It's possible.
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That is a non-partisan issue.
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That's an anti-lizard issue.
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You know what I mean?
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Politics has nothing to do with it.
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No.
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And this is just disgraceful.
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It's nonsense.
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It's an abuse of power.
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No, no, no, no.
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I'm talking about Millie's behavior.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Well...
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I mean, it's all disgraceful.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I'm talking about...
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Yeah, we're not...
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We're not...
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There's no winner here.
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I'm talking about the propaganda.
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Yeah.
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I think a prop dude tweeted, or tweeted in the chat room, Mark Dice was skulking in the
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bushes with a petition.
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First of all, that's super funny for the image, but then secondarily really funny because
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I haven't seen Mark Dice in a while.
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Oh, I do wonder what he's up to.
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I do wonder what he's doing.
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I wonder what's the Mark Dice man up to?
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Some real bad Street man pieces.
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Too many.
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Dice, Dice, we're going to have to let you go.
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Anybody...
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you're really bad at this job.
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Anybody who has not listened to tons of episodes of this podcast, I must restate, go on YouTube
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and just type in Mark Dice bloopers.
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It is not to be believed.
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It's the craziest stuff you've ever seen in your life.
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It's the least funny shit in the world.
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So at this point, Millie brings it, she's doing her, we've heard her ask her question
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and she gets thrown out.
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And someone, it's unclear because the camera work is really bad, she just has a phone doing
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it.
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It's either someone grabs the phone or it's made to look like she's being pushed or something
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like that.
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She probably just shakes it really hard.
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I don't know.
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It's like, get out of there!
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Because I've seen so many of those external views of Mike Cernovich acting like he's being
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assaulted and it's just three people standing behind him and being like, I'm being assaulted.
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She was flopping like the Champions League.
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Right.
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She was going to town.
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She's like The Rock taking a stunner.
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Right.
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She's just flopping all over the place.
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So here's where she...
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But I think that is kind of a crystallization of my philosophy on how you should respond
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to these people is, don't bother.
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There shouldn't have been a response to that.
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There shouldn't have been like, well, what about Roy Moore?
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There doesn't need to be a what about.
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There needs to be a bye.
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Go!
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That was a lie.
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Go!
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But that's the in front of a live crowd kind of thing.
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You know that as a comedian.
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Of course.
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You don't want to show ass in front of a crowd.
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No, of course.
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When someone's asking a question, sometimes your mind will go to just like, oh, this is
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a good point.
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When the best case thing...
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You're talking about like my philosophy with Heckler, like I don't want a Jordan comedian
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destroys Heckler.
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I want like...
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You want to be an outstater?
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Jordan is like, come to a wonderful agreement with the Heckler about how life should be
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and then he moves on with the show.
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Like that's, that's my, that's my situation there.
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I'm not a...
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Headline of the video, Jordan builds up Heckler.
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Jordan helps Heckler actualize.
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I would not get as many clicks.
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No, probably not.
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So at this point, so I've cut out a bit of stuff, but there's a point where Millie is
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like, hey, sorry, the feed cut out because someone grabbed the phone.
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Oh, that feed which is a convenient way for her to edit.
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And so here's where she runs into the protest.
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They want to get really rude and nasty when I ask them questions about the women that
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came out against Bill Clinton for rape.
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That's Swanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, we've all heard the stories.
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They don't want to hear about that.
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They don't want to hear about how, you know, these women that, that came out against Bill
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Clinton were accosted and oppressed by Hillary Clinton.
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What is this?
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I'm literally walking out here guys and all of a sudden there's a protest.
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So here's what seems like you can't really disagree with that.
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Here's what happened after the speech, there was a march.
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She has edited it selectively to make it seem like she gets thrown out and then what's this?
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I guarantee there's like an hour of her sitting around waiting for the, uh, the, the March
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to get going.
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So she could create this, she's got a, she's got a lawn chair waiting for the parade.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And so when the March comes, I bet that, I bet that March threw candy out.
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When the March comes by her people start flipping her off, which is, I mean, that's the cost
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you play.
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That's the cost to play the game.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um, and the, the people, a couple of people who were marching did fuck up cause they engaged
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in the same way you were saying, like, just eh, fuck you, go away.
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That's what you should do.
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But they came over and, uh, were like telling her, like, why can't we just have, uh, a peaceful
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thing?
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Right.
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And the way that Millie plays it with, uh, the video is that the girl who's telling her
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why can't we have a peaceful thing is about the March, which would be crazy because the
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way she presents it is this March just happened out of nowhere.
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And all of a sudden they come up to her and are like, Hey, we're defensive about our March.
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When Millie hasn't said anything, when clearly it's referring to earlier, maybe an hour earlier
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when all those people who were marching were inside at the speech and they saw her antagonistically
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ask a question that wasn't a question.
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It was an accusation.
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Right.
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And then leave while people were like, whoa, what are you?
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Why are you asking?
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Come on.
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It's such a disappointment.
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It's so disappointing.
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It's not a disappointment.
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It's delightful for me because the propaganda is so fucking thin.
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It's weak.
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It's so obvious to see through.
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Right.
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People get tricked by this.
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They can't see through it.
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It's a foregone conclusion, which is the whole point that I make is that to Millie Weaver,
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if you can't recognize that these people are trying to not make just their lives better,
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but your life better as well.
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Why did 57% of white women vote for Trump?
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Like that kind of bullshit.
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Like if you're doing this, if you can't recognize, if you're living in a right to work state
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and you're against unions, they're actively making your life better.
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But those dues, man, those dues.
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Oh, those dues.
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Boo.
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Oh, you know what?
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The problem with union labor is they don't work hard.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Fuck off.
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Yeah.
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Oh, speaking of which, really exciting.
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That last episode of The Dollop this week got into something we covered.
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Oh yeah?
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I think this is one of the first times we've beat them to half a story because it got into
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the Chinese Exclusion Act, which we talked about in the Endgame cover.
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Yeah.
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Suck it, Dave Anthony.
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Oh, no.
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But the reason that I thought about that was because of the, obviously, union stuff.
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I don't know.
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Who cares?
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Anyways, we beat them to the Chinese Exclusion... I don't know why I'm petty about that.
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I think there's a lot of reasons why you're petty about that.
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No, I'm not.
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That's a great show.
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Yeah.
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It is.
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Love it.
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In this next clip...
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Listen to every episode.
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In this next clip, Alex implies that the protest that Millie Weaver walked into happened just
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because Millie was there.
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Of course.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's always the same weapons tactic.
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She's 20 feet away videotaping a protest coming by that was there in case there was a counter-protest.
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They call in the Praetorian Guard, right on cue, they start marching up.
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You're going to see that they know Millie's there.
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They've been activated to come out of the parking garage, and then they come over and
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they're like, why can't we just be peaceful?
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And then the assaults start.
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Why can't you be peaceful?
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Why don't you get out of here?
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And they're going to link arms, how to run you over.
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They do the same training.
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These are authoritarians.
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Let's continue.
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Let's.
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So...
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I like the idea that people have protests just in case there's a counter-protest.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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He was... The way he kept talking was troubling because he's like, they got activated from
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a garage.
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Oh, those garages.
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Just to say that all of these people were waiting in a garage, and because Millie Weaver
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was there, they're like, oh, fuck, Millie got a flight to Ohio.
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We thought that she fucking lives in Austin.
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We have been preparing for Millie Weaver to come to Ohio for so long, and the moment she
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does, we're ready for it.
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They never saw it coming, but because they're so scared, they had them waiting in the garage.
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Oh, of course.
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And every single time there is a speech anywhere around the country, they're just waiting in
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that garage for Soros to get on the... He's got a sidekick.
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He chirps them.
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He's got a sidekick.
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He chirps them on the sidekick.
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He chirps them.
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Okay.
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Hey, get out of the garage.
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Get out of the garage.
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We got a Millie Weaver sighting.
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Naturally, he starts it with, what's up?
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Because of course.
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The code just gets on the sidekick, ka-ka, ka-ka, and then it's time to go.
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Right.
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Get out of the fucking garage.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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That makes sense.
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This is desperate.
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This is so sad, because it's very clear.
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If you watch it, the whole video, you can't.
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It's there.
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It's very- Nah.
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No, I mean, you know what?
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Pass.
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Here's something that I keep struggling with.
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I'm dismissive of this stuff, because I did watch it, and I know that this is edited and
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very fake, but at the same time, I don't want us to get into the same position that we get
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into, or that Alex gets into, where it's like, hey, you can check it out yourself.
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You know?
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I don't want to discourage people from actually checking.
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Right.
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You can.
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That's a good point.
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I respect that.
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It's a weird line to walk.
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I will tell you, it's boring, in the same way that reading a lot of these books that
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he references, it's boring that you can read.
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I don't know.
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Right.
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It's a tough position for me to be in.
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Well, I mean, the hard part is we are coming from a place of, please, please go read this
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stuff, because you should absolutely cross-check.
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We're going to be wrong eventually.
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Yep.
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No, we have been wrong.
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Yeah, we have been wrong.
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We've made apologies.
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Yeah, well, of course, and it's very much like a situation of, please, please cross-check
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us, because we want to know when we're wrong.
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That's something that's really important to us.
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Also, thank you, Mary Jailer.
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We appreciate it very much.
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You gave it a little cheer.
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I don't know how this Twitch shit works in terms of, like, but it seems like-
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Ah, you kids!
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It seems like- You kids with your Twitchin'!
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It seems very nice, and I appreciate it.
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I don't know.
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We are old, but young.
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What are you doing?
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Snapchatting on the Twitch?
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What's happening?
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Oh, shit.
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What's happening?
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We should do this show on Snapchat.
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I don't know if that's a thing.
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I don't know.
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Can you do that?
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I don't have Snapchat.
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Just seems like a place where people solicit nudes.
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I really don't know what's going on there.
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As much as I love nudes, I should know about it.
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Anyway- That's a great sentence.
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That's a great sentence.
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As much as I love nudes, I should know about Snapchat.
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But technology has left me behind.
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You poor bastard.
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Anyway- You'll never get those nudes.
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In summation with the Millie stuff, we have a situation where it's very clear that you
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have an actor in the part of Millie.
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I don't mean actor like she's a crisis actor or anything like that.
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One who acts.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She's hamming it up.
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No, no, no.
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I'm not saying that.
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I'm saying she is the antagonist of this.
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She is the one who is doing the acting in the action.
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She goes, and she has bad faith.
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She's the antagonist.
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Yes.
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She goes specifically in order to create some sort of response in this meeting that was
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existing totally fine without her being there.
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And knows that what you need to do is you need to get some footage.
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Alex needs to fucking buffer the show.
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The Sandy Hook shit is going on.
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He needs help.
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He needs to fill time.
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Doesn't want to talk about that for half an hour.
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And so she does by accusing me of being too political by bringing politics into it and
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then staging this idea that there's a protest that materializes out of nowhere because she's
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there.
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And to me, that's an invalidation.
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It's like in the movie Inception, whenever you start to threaten the dream, all of the
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dream people start to attack you.
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But that's a rhetorical invalidation of the right to congregate and the right to protest.
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You don't have the right to protest if you disagree with conservative positions, Dan.
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That's that's that's fucking autocracy.
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That's authoritarian.
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I'm looking over at the chat room and sharks wants to know our view on the gays.
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Big fan.
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What?
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I don't know.
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That's a weird way of putting that, Dan.
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I don't know.
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Big fans.
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Yeah.
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They're great.
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All for it.
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Everyone's great.
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Well, my point about Milly would be, look, if if we if we I got to not look at the chat,
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if we maintained so many liberal positions and yet somehow we're against gay marriage,
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that would be bananas.
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Or even like not even gay marriage is just that I think it's unnatural against God.
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Ask me.
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OK.
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How do you feel about homosexuals?
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I don't believe it exists.
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We're the most liberal Saudi Arabians there are.
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Not a thing.
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Look, socialism is correct.
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I think trans people should have absolute protection and most hate crimes.
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Oh, that bullshit about the bathroom bill.
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Also no gays.
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But that bullshit about the bathroom bill.
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No gays.
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But for real, you should be allowed to identify as whatever it is you want.
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Also skin color says something about your character.
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That's you know what?
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Phrenology not debunked.
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You know what?
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We might have accidentally stumbled into a really good sketch bit that would never work
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because we can't write right.
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Right.
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Like good characters.
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Right.
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Super progressive on the new stuff.
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Super progressive.
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Way behind on the old stuff like all the stuff that has already like all those battles have
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already been fought.
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Right.
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No, no, no.
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I think racism is a real thing.
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I think that stuff's real.
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But at the same time, I think trans rights for it.
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That's the inverse of that Drew Michael bit about conservatives going so far conservative
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with their hatred of Jews that they wind up advocating for progressive policies.
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Yeah.
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I fear that we've gone too far based on this- Fair enough.
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Let's move on.
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Let me make a comment.
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I need to stop looking at the chair.
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So Millie Weaver shit's done.
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It's embarrassing.
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It's bad.
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But- As is her want.
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At this point, Alex gets a call from his boy, Zack, his fake intelligence source.
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Okay.
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Space command.
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He very clearly has to say- You know what?
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The Me Too movement is against- Space.
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Space.
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Hate it.
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Hate Mars.
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The last we heard from Zack was on the Friday show where Alex turned on Trump.
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And Zack was backing him up on that, saying it was fucked up.
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And also saying that this was a war for Mars.
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They're trying to get us back onto the planet.
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They're not trying to let us go to the space.
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Everyone's trying to fight for Mars and the moon and what have you.
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So I assume he's taking his principled stance and he's bringing it back another week later
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in order to make sure that Alex Jones is held accountable.
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See, your bit is good and I appreciate that, but you jumped the gun.
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Because I wanted to say other shitty things about Zack.
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Okay.
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Also the last time we saw him on that Friday, he did not know who the Joint Chief of Staff
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was.
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Not a good idea.
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He thought that McMaster had not been fired.
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Still thought it was Rumsfeld.
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And thought that possibly McMaster was the Joint Chief of Staff when he was the National
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Security Advisor.
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Right.
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So those kind of things should be something that the high-level intelligence source should
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know.
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It's kind of invalidating that he doesn't know those things.
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It kind of seems like it would be his literal job to know.
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Yeah.
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So here's the other reason I know that Zack is fake as fuck besides all the stuff he says.
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Alex ends the interview with Millie Weaver by saying, like, I'm going to get to Zack.
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He's only got a couple minutes.
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He's in a rush.
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And then...
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Where is he going?
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In the middle of Zack's interview, he goes to commercial.
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He blows hard for about two minutes about things he's mad about while Zack's waiting
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on hold.
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And then he does a read for a product while Zack is waiting on hold.
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Okay.
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So the idea that your high-level intelligence source is coming in, and he's got information
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that you've got to get to on a short time frame, and you've done three things to kill
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time while he's waiting on hold, it leads me to believe you don't take him all that
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seriously.
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He's on Mark Rich's plane.
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We actually do find out where he's got to go.
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Oh, yeah?
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And...
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Aldi?
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Dude, it's so fucked up because it's like, I don't believe any of this.
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He ends the call with, like, I know you're on your lunch break.
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But he's lunch break.
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I don't know.
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Well, by federal law, you do have to give people a 30-minute lunch break.
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But I feel like high-level intelligence people probably work on a little bit more of a swing
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and schedule than people who are like, if you're not back at your desk in 30 minutes,
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you're getting written up.
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I would assume.
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Maybe high-level intelligence people get a little bit of leeway.
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You put in late nights if you're in high-level intelligence.
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Yeah, you gotta... but that's so fucking stupid.
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That leads me to believe that, like, okay, so what...
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All right, who cares?
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Where are you going?
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I was about to make a lost reference, and I didn't realize this.
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Oh, you were going... okay.
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Anyway.
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In an early season, Locke is pretending...
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I was about to do it.
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And now I'm going to do it.
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Locke role-plays as a general, and there's a whole situation where he works at an office.
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Like a Dungeons & Dragons situation?
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He works at a low-level situation in an office, and it...
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Anyway, guys...
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You are so reluctant, and yet you still want to get it out.
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Here's a great idea.
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One of the new possible rewards...
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Is we'll just do a podcast about lost for a week?
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Yes.
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No, not for a week.
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We do the whole series.
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No.
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Once a week.
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There's already plenty of podcasts that do that.
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But not done by us.
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That doesn't make sense.
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I know a lot about lost.
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I don't want to know anything about lost.
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And there is the fun...
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Fair.
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That's a good point.
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Chime in at our Facebook group.
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Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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If you want us to do that, horrible idea for the show.
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Go home and tell Locke you're brilliant.
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Anyway, yeah.
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I feel like what we have here is a situation where Zack works a day job of some sort, and
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he did need to get back to his desk, and he had this time that he could make a call to
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Alex and...
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Here we go.
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Yeah.
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So the only thing that he wants to do is sort of reinforce Alex's narratives.
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He's already doubled back in the same way that Alex has doubled back from the Trump
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is fucking us over into like, oh no, new narrative.
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Secret super patriot.
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It's mysterious how this high level intelligence guy seems to blow in the wind the exact same
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way that Alex does.
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It's a lovely coincidence for Alex.
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Probably just because Alex is so in touch with things.
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Anyway, here's what he wants to say.
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And the plan is, this is it, folks.
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I don't know if anybody's looking into it, but this is definitely the plan.
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Nikki Haley is looking to run in 2020 with Mike Pence.
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They're hoping that in this raid, and they have probable cause here, if they go after
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this witch hunt, to actually impeach Donald Trump, if they could pull it off.
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And they're planning internally for Donald Trump to be impeached and Nikki Haley and
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Mike Pence to run on that 2020 ticket.
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You could guarantee it.
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And notice Saturday Night Live and all of them for months are acting like Pence is perfect.
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He's the guy.
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And the headlines are today that Haley and Pence are trying to line it up behind the
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scenes.
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That's a good behavior.
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If true.
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If true.
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Absolutely.
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And very dangerous behavior.
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I mean, listen.
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Well, notice how the media always says Pence is perfect and Pence can do a wrong and he
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navigated it perfectly.
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They're gonna burn Pence as soon as he flushes Trump.
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He better not be stupid.
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Notoriously pro-gay conversion therapy, Mike Pence.
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The media gives him such a pass.
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And Alex, to your question of whether I've noticed the media saying that Pence can do
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no wrong.
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Hard.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Hard.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Have not have not experienced that.
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Also, I don't.
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Well, one, we've never had a vice president for a sitting president campaign with a challenger
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in the primary for that president.
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That would be weird.
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That would be bananas.
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Yeah, because what the way they're presenting it is that Trump would get impeached.
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Yeah.
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So.
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But then Nikki Haley would become president?
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Vice president, I guess, because Pence would become president.
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It kind of seems like 2020 it would be.
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It would be.
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It would be Haley Pence.
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Pence Haley.
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They'd be.
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They'd flop it.
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I think he kind of is implying that Haley is running for president with Pence as her
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vice president.
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But he's also saying they're gonna get Trump impeached.
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And that would mean that Pence would already be president.
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There's no fucking way, regardless of what you think about any of these people.
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There's no fucking way that you end up with an impeached president so the vice president
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becomes president.
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Right.
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Then two years later, there's an election and the president who has been the president
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for two years.
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Yeah.
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Because of the impeached president is like, I gotta go back to vice president.
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I like it better.
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I gotta go back.
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Yeah.
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Well, to be honest, I bet he would like it better.
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Sure.
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But that doesn't play.
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Pence has such a cushy gig right now.
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But that doesn't play.
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No, it makes no sense.
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It would be, look, in the chaotic, dark timeline that we live in, that would be the best.
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That's the only logical outcome to our weird ass world we live in.
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I am currently the president and I am campaigning for a lesser role.
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So it doesn't count as a term for me.
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So I'm gonna campaign with Nikki Haley as her vice president.
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She's gonna serve two terms.
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And I am going to campaign with Paul Ryan as his vice president.
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How?
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OK.
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Here's a good question.
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How many terms can you be vice president?
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I think, I don't know.
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Is that a thing?
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I don't know.
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That's a really interesting question that I've never considered.
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Yeah.
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I don't think it's ever come up.
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Can you just be vice president forever?
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I think everyone's kind of just like, eh, who cares?
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I'm super interested in that.
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I want that now.
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What?
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Vice president for life?
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Yeah.
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Grover Cleveland serving two non-consecutive terms.
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That's fantastic.
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But Mike Pence being vice president for life?
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I don't even know how to deal with that.
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Well, now is the time that you get to do some research and I can take a seat.
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All right.
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So at this point.
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I know a lot about vice presidencies.
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I don't know anything about it.
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There you go.
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So at this point, Zach leaves.
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Because of course he does.
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He's done with his lunch break and he's got to get back to the data entry that he does
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for a living.
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Right.
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And so Alex finally is left without any more guests.
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Milly Weaver's gone.
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Doesn't have Sabo, the great street artist anymore.
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Poor Sabo.
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And so he's finally got to get to Sandy Hook.
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He's got to talk about it.
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Oh no.
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And so here is his position.
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Oh boy.
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I learned that they know I'm so truthful and the globalists respect me so much.
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And I'm not saying that as a power trip.
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I've only learned this recently.
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That they believe everything I say.
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Sure.
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Great.
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And I'm right.
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Most of the time.
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I'm wrong sometimes.
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All the time.
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The whole Sandy Hook secret is this.
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2017.
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And I'll go ahead and say it all on air.
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The whole truth is nothing but the truth.
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They thought because I backed off saying I didn't think all of Sandy Hook was real.
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All.
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I never said they were all crisis actors.
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I never said nobody died.
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I said I could see how people believe that.
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70 30.
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Not because people have been lied to so much but they edited those tapes together.
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But if I thought really it was all staged nobody died I'd say it.
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You did.
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You did.
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So.
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We have you on tape.
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A lot.
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2015.
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I can pull up the entire list here if you give me just a second.
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So I was caught with my pants down a little unawares.
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So all that's bullshit.
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Everything he's saying is bullshit.
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Everything he's saying is bullshit.
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I feel like he needs to have a disclaimer of like now I'm going to tell you the whole
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truth and nothing but the truth.
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My lawyers strongly advised me not to do this.
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Or they didn't because they love the billable hours.
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So on January 13th 2015 if you go to knowledgefight.com we do have a link up to this you could find
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the entire episode of his show on video.
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But again we've played this clip a number of times but it just bears repeating.
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He got a call this is on January 13th 2015 this is what he said.
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What I'm curious about is do you think that there's a new level of sophistication with
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a lot of these false flags where they plant a couple of pieces of you know flimsy evidence
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that get everybody talking and steer them in the wrong direction.
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So like to make it to make yeah when you're trying to I mean decipher cloak and dagger
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dirty tricks it's pretty hard to do.
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It's just that when you then you learn that they were funded by western funding then you
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learn that it was the same Amarillo Alaki connection underwear bomber.
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Then those are big red flags that they were patsy provocateurs.
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The classic M.O. has been followed.
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And then yeah it kind of becomes a red herring you know to say the whole thing was staged
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because they have staged events before.
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But then you learn the school had been closed and reopen and you got video of the kids going
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in circles in and out of the building and they don't call the rescue choppers for two
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hours and then they tear the building down and seal it and they get caught using blue
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screens and an email by Bloomberg comes out in a lawsuit where he's telling his people
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get ready in the next 24 hours to capitalize on a shooting.
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Yeah so Sandy Hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors in my view manufactured I
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couldn't believe it at first I knew they had actors there clearly but I thought they killed
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some real kids and it just shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors.
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So that's all that's clear.
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That is what you said.
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And that was your position consistently for a very long time and I'm sorry about the audio
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being much higher on that.
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Still is just refuses to say it as directly.
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So I went when it first came out that he got sued by Sandy Hook families I thought well
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this is tough because of the time frame of it.
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He did most of his brutal work long ago and a lot of the stuff that he's done in the last
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year or two which is within the statute of limitations for defamation claims is not is
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much more insinuation based.
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And I've come to the position where I don't really understand the law.
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So I don't know.
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Fair enough.
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I don't know.
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This could go either way but it is really sad the situation for everyone and it's real
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sad the narrative that he's spinning because it's all lies.
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There in that clip he said he didn't say that there was actors if he believed that he would
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say it.
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He did say it consistently.
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You said it over and over again.
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And now in this next clip from the 18th in present day says this.
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So about a year after I started saying you know I can see how you think nobody died but
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you know what I think it happened.
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And I'm not going to sit there and look at parents and say it you know that it didn't.
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So that he's saying a year after the shooting shooting happened in December of 2012.
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So that would have been 2013.
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That's at least a year and a couple months after I'm sorry before the clip that we just
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played.
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Right.
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School shootings happen are the Democrats seizing on it blaming the Second Amendment.
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You bet.
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And everybody's heard me that's been listening since a lot of you've been listening for five
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years some of you 20 years but most have been listening you know just for a year or so.
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You've heard me what every week they got articles saying I say nobody died and they've always
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got new ones.
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Jones just said nobody died last week and they'll show some edited three year old clip
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or four year old clip from 20.
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I get what happened.
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They saw me kind of entertain it didn't.
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It was viral all over the Internet hundreds of millions of years just on our videos discussing
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it.
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Nah.
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YouTube deleted him.
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And then I started saying you know I think people died there because I was getting threatened
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by people that said nobody died.
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And being saying I was involved and I went this is a little bit schizophrenic.
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And so Paul who I really trust and he's just smarter he said you got to get away from this
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don't even entertain it they're nuts.
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Don't even have debates.
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I went and told my crew I said I don't tell you what to do most of the time but stay away
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from the Sandy Hook.
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This is like four years ago.
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My lawyer strongly advised me.
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And the media saw that they went he's weak.
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They think I'm like a sociopath like them that I tell the truth.
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And so they went oh we got him.
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Jones is saying it had happened and stopped saying it didn't.
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He backed off.
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We got him.
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He admits he's wrong.
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So he's saying that four years ago he went to his staff and told them to stop looking
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into Sandy Hook.
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What was the last time Mr. Pechenik said that it was.
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Two weeks ago.
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Yeah I was going to say.
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I know.
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Over and over again.
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But like four years ago we're looking at April 2018 now so that would be April 2014.
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This was this to me was a complete like that to me was an affront to honesty.
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Because we did a long investigation of 2015 and we saw a bunch of stuff.
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Like there was a school shooting at a college in Oregon.
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And on the October 20th 2015 show Alex said this.
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Also was Oregon a false flag like Newtown.
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He's saying specifically that Newtown was a false flag in order to bolster his narrative
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about Oregon being a false flag.
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Do you know what.
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So he also gets no no no no wait for this.
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So he told his staff to not look into Newtown and not look into Sandy Hook four years ago
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which makes it very difficult to understand how this happened.
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But now your uncle John Dew Navy SEAL retired FBI agent works for successful security company.
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I had missed this episode of the nightly news back on June 4th.
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And then again last week when you did an update and then I heard you talking about it yesterday
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I knew that we'd sent our reporter Dan Badandi there for days to cover the city council hearings
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about it.
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He had sent a reporter to Newtown in July of 2015 in order to cover hearings about it
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in order to juice up it being a false flag.
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If he had told his staff not to cover it in 2014 why is he sending someone in 2015.
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And at that event or when Dan Badandi was out there he ran into Rob Dew's uncle which
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we covered back in the 2015 investigation.
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And Rob Dew's uncle didn't say anything that was suspicious he just said I've never seen
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anything like this this is weird that sort of thing.
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But that doesn't stop Alex from trying to get Rob Dew to manufacture a quote about it.
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He wasn't saying a lot but he's like you know Robert this is strange I've never seen anything
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like it never seen anything like it and he's been in court cases it's not like it's for
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you said he also said it doesn't add up.
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Oh yeah well yeah nothing adds up.
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It adds up.
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What was his exact quote because I want to put up an article.
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I would say take that from there I was sure but let me explain something you're a reporter
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you're a news director this is your uncle it's incredible for you to quote somebody
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go back to the memory what did he say.
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I'll think about the exact words but from what I'm getting from what I remember because
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I was in the car driving while I was talking to him I had a earpiece I understand talking
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to him because I wanted to get something out of him before we did because we did the show
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that night on the fourth that day on the fourth and I wanted to talk about it I said hey I've
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got this short interview with you you know and you're saying it's strange it doesn't
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add up he's like I've never been in a court proceeding like that ever where people don't
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know anything.
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That quote that he's given could very easily be rationalized as being like I've never been
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in a court proceeding that was about 20 murdered elementary school kids.
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This is I mean this is embarrassing like this level of lying about what you have done in
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the past as a journalist in quotes as a newsman it indicates that you're covering something
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up.
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You know what's brutal?
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What's brutal is that that wouldn't be admissible in court.
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No I mean based on the defamation laws from what I understand again I'm not a lawyer I'm
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not entirely sure if that can't be used as background I'm not entirely sure but like
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when you lie to this level you're lying for a reason you're covering something up and
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it's that you know you did this shit yeah so anyway we should be prepared for this emotionally
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already but you know what this is about this is how he closes it this is how he closes
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his discussion about his Sandy Hook position.
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So it's a whole thing by the Justice Department by the Clintons by the globalists to kind
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of re-kick all this off.
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Okay this is in present day this is from 2018 episode.
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And that's what this all is is we can't call Alex racist that doesn't work can't call in
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a Russian that thing's falling apart.
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Nope.
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We'll just say he's mean to the victims of the mass shooting.
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He is.
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And they said that you saw him a few months ago about what happened in Florida and they
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tried to get me kicked off the air with that didn't work because it wasn't true.
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To be fair you had Mike Adams on repeatedly a guy who created a website specifically to
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bully a victim of that shooting because he disagreed with his politics.
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Also you lied a whole bunch about his timeline pretended that you had evidence that he wasn't
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at the school because you were misrepresenting comments that he made about getting on his
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bike after school in the evening to go back to the school.
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So fuck you.
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You don't have any leg to stand on here.
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Fuck you.
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So they're back again.
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Now recycling what I didn't really say from five years ago because they think you're stupid.
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But AP got it right.
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No you think this.
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They actually quoted me saying you know that Jones for years says he did think it happened
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and that he'd love to have the parents on to discuss and have a real discussion about
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guns blah blah blah.
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So blah blah blah AP got it right.
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I'm going to go to this AP article right about now.
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So this is an AP article Sandy Hook parents family file suit against Alex Jones what he's
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referencing is Jones responded to the allegations in a YouTube video saying the families are
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being used by the Democratic Party and the news media and he believes Sandy Hook quote
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really happened.
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Jones invited parents who lost their children onto the show to have a real discussion about
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guns.
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He said he believes the lawsuits will be thrown out.
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That's not them saying that you actually are right.
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They're just reporting what you said.
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Yeah.
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They didn't get it right.
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They're just reporting on your response because it's a news organization and then it goes
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into what AP said that the lawyers said I said which isn't even in the suit which isn't
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even what I did.
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So that's what this is just trying to try me in the court of public opinion but here's
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the deal.
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I'm going to go on to the end as Churchill said whatever the cost may be and we've got
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record traffic.
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We have got people buying a lot of product.
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So the way it squares up and looks we're going to be able to beat these suits, get them thrown
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out.
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We're just having to get a war room together, in-house counsel, so I don't have to worry
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about it and we just move on and we've got to counter sue all the people obviously for
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the anti-slapback provisions and we already filed one of those last week in DC.
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I'm doing what I said I'd do because we've got to let people know when they do these
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we've got to hit them back so that obviously we stop it and there's going to be more coming
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in and if they can get us they're going to use it as the precedent.
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All these other media cowards that want to stay out of this you're going to destroy yourselves
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by staying out of it.
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I want to thank everybody that has stood with us and I appreciate the audience, Drudge Report,
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my family, the great crew we've got, thank you all.
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Speaking of that we've got some of the biggest sales ever, 50% off the real red pill, 50%
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off Alpha Power.
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I didn't see that one coming.
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God damn it, Dan.
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I legitimately did not see that one coming.
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I even set it up that we should all be emotionally prepared.
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I wasn't!
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I was emotionally prepared for him to lie.
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I wasn't emotionally prepared for him to pivot into an ad.
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Oh yeah.
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God damn it.
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That's what it's all about, baby.
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He still gets me.
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Yeah, I know.
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Still fucking gets me.
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It's pretty impressive.
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Fuck!
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Yeah.
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So, Alex, you're a liar.
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You might not be able to be punished for it, but go fuck yourself.
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So this brings us to the end of the episode.
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I really think that the most important thing that we covered on this, which is not as glamorous
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or interesting as a lot of this other stuff, is that Sabo admitted on air that he had advance
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notice of the Al Franken situation, which matches up perfectly with the timeline that
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Roger Stone had, and they both have connections to info wars.
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So anyway, I gotta pee again, so we gotta wrap this up.
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All right.
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We are on Facebook.
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Dan, you can follow us, or find us, or subscribe to us on the iTunes.
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That's true.
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You can do that.
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Also we have a group called Go Home Until Your Mother You're Brilliant on Facebook,
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Special, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You make this possible and we really appreciate it.
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Absolutely.
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Dan, I got the last one and it was, according to you, very petty.
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so I suppose that means that it is your
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turn today I shall say Millie Weaver go
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fuck yourself Andy in Kansas you're on
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the air thanks for holding so Alex I'm
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a person caller I'm a huge fan I love
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your work I love you
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