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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. The voice you will hear shortly is my co-host and dear friend, Jordan.
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This is part four of our five-part coverage of Alex Jones' very generous-to-call-it-a-documentary,
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but we'll go ahead, since that's the naming convention he came up with, his film, his flick, Endgame, that's the name of it.
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Drew a blank there for a second, I've been doing nothing but researching, recording, and editing about this documentary for the last two, three weeks,
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and yet still can't come up with a name on the spot.
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Anyway, guys, where we last left off, on episode three, we were in the middle of some Nazi talk.
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And, as promised, at the end of the last episode, that Nazi talk continues at the beginning of this episode,
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but there's not too much left of it. Look forward to us to get into some other bullshit Alex is lying about,
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a couple of quotes that he's faking, a couple more quotes that he's faking,
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and then, I'll be honest, this part four, this is where I think I started to lose it.
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I think I got a little bit mad in the middle. I think I gathered myself decently,
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but there might be some cracks starting to show here in what would be hour seven of me and Jordan sitting around and recording this nonsense.
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Anyway, enjoy, and I don't know why I needed to put an and there. Just enjoy.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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So you, there's, there's an argument to be made that what they were doing was actually defrauding these foundations.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, this sounds like a big ass scam.
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They probably didn't mean to, but in the end, the product is, that's what they did.
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Yeah.
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They didn't start off as a scam, anyway.
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With the strong support of the US and England, Germany had gone over the edge and tens of millions would pay with their lives.
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At the end of the war, the Allies protected from prosecution the very Nazi scientist that had tortured thousands of people to death.
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I wonder why.
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I have to assume that what they're, what he's referring to is Mengele.
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Yeah.
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And that's not true.
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They didn't defend him.
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He escaped.
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He, Mengele escaped to South America.
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Well, no, that's not, it's not untrue that they protected.
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There were many scientists who were absolutely involved at a high level,
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who were protected, who were taken, and who were hidden.
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But a lot of them were not involved with crimes against humanity and war crimes.
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Oh, yes, they were.
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Oh, yes, they were, Dan.
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Dan, that would be naive of you to think.
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Naive.
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Well, do you know any other names?
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Yeah, David Schmarken.
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Citation needed.
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David Schmarken.
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Citation needed.
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Franklin Schmarken.
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That was his brother.
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Okay.
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This is now just me making fun of the German language and I apologize for it.
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While allowing that what you're saying is possibly true but you're not proving it
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because you don't have any fucking evidence.
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Dude, okay, fine, fine.
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I'm just saying it's naive to think that the American government did not protect genociders.
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Considering our history of protecting genociders, as well as our desire for knowledge
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and the immense need at the time to defeat the Russians in developing whatever,
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of course they protected genociders.
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There's a bunch of rebuttals that I would have to that
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and a number of them involve the idea that a lot of people who had access to the research
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that was being done and the results of it were not involved with the crimes against humanity.
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Right.
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And so a lot of people were immune from prosecution and didn't actually commit war crimes
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and the United States could have swallowed them up.
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Most of the people who were involved in Project Paperclip,
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a lot of the Nazi scientists who came over like Werner von Braun,
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were people who were in unrelated areas.
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They weren't involved with the exterminations and crimes against humanity.
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Right.
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The Nuremberg Trials were specifically set up in such a way to only prosecute
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for a couple different things that were within the spectrum of the court.
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Right.
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The purview of the court.
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Right.
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What was in their jurisdiction.
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And I obviously don't think they had a hundred percent accuracy,
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but I don't think that someone like Mengele would have escaped prosecution.
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Oh, yeah.
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Alex Jones said specifically singular scientist, not scientists.
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Oh, he said scientist?
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Yes.
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He's talking about Mengele.
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That's a stupid thing to say.
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Why would you say that?
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Mengele's history is fucking amazing though.
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Like realistically to be a Nazi.
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Is this our is this our evil Margaret Sanger situation?
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We're like respect dude.
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Respect.
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Gotta give you that.
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Not even respect, but I'm amazed.
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Like the the fact that he had the foresight to know like this shit's going down.
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Right.
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And escaped 10 days before the camps were liberated.
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Right.
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Just got away.
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Clearly the smartest the smartest Nazi there's ever been.
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And the fact that he did get captured and they used his name,
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but because of just some sort of fuck up with record-keeping,
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they were like, oh, you're not one of the people we were looking for.
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He got released and ended up escaping to South America.
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Like the luck that he had in terms of that.
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It's just it's unbelievable.
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But at the same time.
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Luck or mind control.
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Maybe it's mind control.
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It's from Brazil.
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Yeah.
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So he did escape South America.
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No one's really protecting him.
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And Alex Jones making that claim.
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He requires far more proof than citation needed.
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The Nazi brand of eugenics had embarrassed the elites,
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but they had no intention.
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They were so embarrassed.
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The Allies literally fought with each other over who would get top Nazi eugenicist.
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Well, it didn't matter of the SS doctors had tortured tens of thousands to death.
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They were free to go.
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Not not really true.
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The Angel of Death, Joseph Mengele,
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and his boss Atmar von Verscher were not prosecuted.
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Atmar von Verscher even continued his work in Germany after the war.
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And he ate brains.
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Mengele did not escape prosecution at the Nuremberg trial because he escaped to South America.
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He was not escaping escaping.
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Yeah, he was not there.
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He escaped it in the very literal sense as opposed to the metaphorical sense.
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Most people weren't tried in absentia.
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There are only a couple people who were like,
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we're going to try you even though like you're dead or you're gone.
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Something like that.
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But here's the thing.
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The Nuremberg trials were incredibly complicated.
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Oh.
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The first thing to keep in mind when you talk about the Nuremberg trials is there's a jurisdictional issue
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that it was only limited to war crimes, crimes against humanity,
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waging wars of aggression,
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and a crime of that variety.
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Considered under those guidelines,
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there's no reason to think that Atmar von Verscher would have been found guilty
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or was even deserving of the court's attention.
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What he did, we rightly can look back on as grotesque and awful now,
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but it didn't rank with the Nuremberg trials.
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At the time, there was the appearance that he was just a scientist
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who benefited from receiving some samples from Mengele in Auschwitz,
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but not in any way an active participant in any of that,
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but history calls that into question a little bit.
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So here's the thing.
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Von Verscher was Mengele's doctoral advisor or whatever coming up.
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He was sort of a mentor and von Verscher had a completely separate research institute
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and he may have received some samples from Mengele.
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He was not involved in the camps in any way.
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Who among us has not received a Mengele sample?
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Well, there's plausible deniability in terms of like that.
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There's no way you're going to prove that he committed crimes against humanity,
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war crimes, crimes of aggression, those sorts of things.
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You're not going to prove that.
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So if you could, though, that would make a great documentary.
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If you bring him up on trials in the Nuremberg court,
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all you're going to do is exonerate him of those crimes and waste everybody's time.
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That's not going to be a good thing.
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No, so there's no reason why he ever would have been brought up.
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Now, again, in hindsight, we can look back and be like,
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hey, we might add that one a little.
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Probably a Nazi.
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He was probably way more guilty than we know.
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It's kind of like, so the way I look at it is,
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it's kind of like the way people look at Tonya Harding.
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Like at the time and for a while, people saw her as just a victim
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and she had no involvement with Galuli and his actions.
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But now, in hindsight, we realize she was fucking involved.
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There's no doubt she was involved with that shit.
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So there's something like that.
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It's too little, too late.
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You can't do anything about it.
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Anyway.
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Wait, which, I didn't see the movie.
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Jeff Galuli was her husband who hit Nancy.
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Right, right.
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Tonya was the one who wasn't hit.
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No, yeah, yeah.
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Nancy was the one who was hit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So after the Nuremberg trials, there were the doctor trials
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in 1946 to 1947, which would not-
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We've been locked up in Nazis for a while now.
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So-
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Not as long as the roads.
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As far as, as far as Tonya Harding and Anta Kerrigan go.
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Yeah.
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That was on TV, right?
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Like I remember that.
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No, not the, not the moment that it happened.
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Not the actual hitting.
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But like the, like on TV on the day people were like this
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Olympic athlete had her husband beat the shit out of her
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competitor.
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I'm not sure that's how they reported it.
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But yeah.
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It sounds about right though, right?
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In hindsight, yes.
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How fucking crazy would that be to live through?
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It's pretty crazy.
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I remember it.
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That's bananas.
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It was like 10 when that happened.
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I know, I was, I was very young.
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I remember that and I remember like I see the videos in
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my head of Nancy Kerrigan crying and like, nah, you know
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the whole thing.
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It's amazing to live through though.
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Like the idea that that is a real thing that happened to
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people.
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No big deal.
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I was a Kerrigan guy and this Itania shit doesn't change
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anything for me.
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I haven't seen it, but I don't, I refuse to.
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I think-
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I don't think it's going to exonerate her.
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Tonya Harding is a monster, but also a terrible victim of
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abuse and I feel sorry for her, but also-
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Was she a good skater though?
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She was pretty amazing.
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She was really good, right?
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Amazing.
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She was one of the only people to hit a triple axle in
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competition, but it wasn't in the Olympics.
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Yeah.
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Why did the, why did her husband-
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No, Nancy Kerrigan was also really good.
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Tonya Harding was really good.
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She was the one who hit the triple axle.
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Right, right.
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No, no, that's what I'm saying.
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The reason that Jeff Gillooly hit Nancy Kerrigan was that Nancy
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Kerrigan was probably going to make the Olympic team and
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there was only so much room on that team.
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Oh, it was for qualifying?
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Yes.
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Wasn't even for-
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Yeah, and he's, and he's a mobster.
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Dude.
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He has deep mob ties.
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Really?
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His name is Jeff Gillooly.
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That's how he solves problems?
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Yes.
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This, this whole thing.
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There's a bodyguard with a lead pipe.
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That's how he solves fucking problems.
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I don't see how you solve problems.
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You don't have a friend with a pipe.
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Good point.
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Good point.
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Do you want to get through this or not?
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I don't know.
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I want to get to this bottom of this Tonya Harding situation.
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I think we got to the bottom of it.
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Um, so in 1946 and 47, there was a doctor's trial of Nazi
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scientists and this would also not have succeeded in finding
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Atmar von Verscher guilty of any of the charges that were
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in the jurisdiction of that court.
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The charges they were able to make were crimes against
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humanity, war crimes, performing medical experience with
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experiments without the subject's consent on prisoners
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of war and civilians of occupied countries in the course
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of which the experiments and the defendants committed
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murders, brutalities, cruelties, tortures, atrocities and
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other inhuman acts.
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Also planning and performing the mass murder of prisoners
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of war and civilians of occupied countries stigmatized
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as aged, insane, incurably ill, deformed and so on by gas
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lethal injections and diverse other means and nursing homes,
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hospitals and asylums during the euthanasia programs and
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participating in the mass murder of concentration camp
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inmates and the other crime they could have charged them
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with was membership in the SS.
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None of these would have applied to von Verscher.
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It would have been applied to Mengele, but he had already
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escaped to South America.
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No one was protecting anybody.
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It was just a waste of time to prosecute von Verscher.
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There was nothing that could got him.
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Right.
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He was clean, got away clean.
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All of his witnesses, though, had been hit in the leg with
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a lead pipe.
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There were no witnesses.
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You just got samples.
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You just got samples from Mengele.
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I think Grandpa Galluli would disagree over there.
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You know what I'm saying?
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He was there.
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He's hanging out with Mussolini.
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He's hanging out with Mussolini and von Verscher.
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Eugenics were angry that their great work had been exposed.
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They were scrambled to camouflage their agenda.
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Eugenics quarterly became social biology leaves the American
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birth control League became Planned Parenthood.
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New terms like transhumanism population control sustainability
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conservation and environmentalism replaced racial hygiene
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and social Darwinism I don't know what's going on here at
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many eugenicist of the previous period engaged in what they
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called crypto eugenics purposefully taking their eugenics
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beliefs underground.
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They became highly respected anthropologist biologist and
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geneticist in the post-war world.
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All of those things are eugenics.
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I don't think that's what that thing is depicting that that
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drawing the Allies then smuggled thousands of Nazi scientists
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out of Germany.
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This is the project placed in the key scientific positions
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ranging from bio weapons to rocketry throughout the military
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industrial complex.
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The founder of IBM was a devout follower of Hitler.
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That is a little extreme.
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Perhaps Thomas Watson was given a medal by Hitler, but he
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also returned it later.
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I don't know if we can find evidence that he was a dedicated
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follower of Hitler, but he was a boy.
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He had some problems.
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Yeah.
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Thomas J.
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Watson and supplied his punch card computers and IBM technicians
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to the Nazis for use in the death camps.
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Tattoos on camp victims or IBM human identification numbers
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which fed into the computers.
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This is that true.
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This is I feel like that's not true.
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But I don't know if that's not how punch card technology
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worked, but that's what concerned me like right off the bat
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when he was like, oh, well, these tattoos mean punch cards.
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I'm like, I don't understand how a computer at that time
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could then read the tattoo, but it couldn't the problem that
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I come to is that all of the citations for this aren't online
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anymore. It's all pages that have been taken down.
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I have no idea what he's trying to cite but Thomas Watson
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and IBM did have involvement with giving punch card technology
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to the now absolutely that they were able to use that made
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the camps more efficient, right?
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Now the fucked up piece of it.
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Well, again, the ovens were made by a company named Siemens
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and Siemens makes all of your shit now to like it's they're
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more criminals.
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Yeah, but the problem that I have with it is like that IBM
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they did provide punch card technology that bordered on
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computing but the real problem is not that they gave them
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support. It's that they didn't stop supporting the Germans
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when the Holocaust happened the business relationship between
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Germany and IBM and the company that it was before which
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was a German company right predated the rise of Hitler by
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23 years.
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They were already doing all this business in Germany and
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just didn't stop and that part is incredibly fucked up and
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Thomas Watson should be deeply ashamed of I can't imagine
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that because the the histories all that that I have read
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have been so overflowing with this concept of like, well,
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we just couldn't believe it like that kind of that kind of
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excuse kept coming up over and over and over again where
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you talk about the people who developed the technology that
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they used and when you ask them like well, we were told
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what it was being used for this year, but we could not believe
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it and then two years later is like oh shit.
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That's real like the the Holocaust again where we talk about
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people denying the Holocaust now the Holocaust deniers were
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far and Legion.
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Yeah during the war even right up to the end of the way
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you're even saying it think about it year by year the difference
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between like 36 and 37 or 37 and 38 38 and 39 39 and 40 like
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the difference between those years in terms of perspective.
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What was publicly available information, right?
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It's even it's very difficult to wrestle with even soldiers
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in the in like 44 were saying well, we didn't believe that
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the Holocaust was real until we saw it.
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Yeah, and you're like well, yeah because how could you possibly
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what what kind of conception for it?
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Like it's if it weren't for the Holocaust you wouldn't be
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able to conceive of a Holocaust like it's impossible to imagine
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so I know there's been other genocide.
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Well exactly.
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Yeah, right now we've been crushing it.
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Yeah, I mean, but there were on genocide like 15 since then
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I think there is some sort of responsibility.
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I believe that exists for like these business people who
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were doing business with them to have some sort of oversight
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of like what are we contributing to but maybe I'm being idealistic.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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I think that's where we start.
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That's where we start talking about unregulated interesting
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actual capitalism because unregulated capitalism says that corporations
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have no responsibility.
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All they are is machines to make money, but I thought there
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were people well, yeah, but they're people who are machines
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built to make money interesting transhumanism like how all
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people are but to back to this I have no idea.
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I can't find any documentation or evidence that the numbers
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that were tattooed on people were used with Watson or IBM
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computers, but it was probably IBM.
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Yeah continue IBM had used similar punch card systems as
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early as 1928 in a Jamaican race mixing study.
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The first real computers were literally invented by a eugenicist
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for eugenics.
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He said literally technically the first computer was created
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in 1822.
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You could say that an abacus is technically a computer.
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Where do you where does he want to start?
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Let's just grab the name that he's going to even if you
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use just like as an electronic computing machine as opposed
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to someone like a Turing machine like that kind of thing
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that is that predates this anyway.
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But he said literally that's why I got yeah, I'm very I got
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very unhappy UN Chieftain and unrepentant eugenicist Julian
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Huxley argued that since the leaders of eugenics had founded
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the environmental and conservation movements that they
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should be used a lot of claims there in the formation of the
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world government done cited harden just as HG Wells had
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envisioned this government would be controlled by a scientific
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dictatorship and would be guided by the principles of eugenics
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Huxley created the World Wildlife Fund with Bilderberg
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founder and former SS officer Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands
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again, oh PB of the Neds again the SS group that he was
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in it was a largely equestrian social club to believe otherwise
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is to believe the Space Command guy that Daniel Estellan talks
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to horses in space and believe the love of England.
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In the event that I am reincarnated I would like to return
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as a deadly virus in order to contribute something to solve
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overpopulation boy Philip reported by Deutsche Press
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agenda or DPA August 1988.
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Well, that's a quote Dan.
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So we're at what we're in an hour and 43 now, this is quote
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number seven.
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How we doing on quote statistics dad this shit's fake and we're
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going to go to the next one.
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How we doing on quote statistics dad this shit's fake and we're
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going to come to you in the quote Dome.
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This shit is fake.
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It's a paraphrasing of something he did say it's a paraphrasing
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of the introduction.
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He wrote to a book called if I were an animal by Fleur cowls,
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here's the actual quote.
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I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an
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animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers that it
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was in danger of extinction.
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What would be its feelings towards the human species whose
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population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.
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I must confess that I'm tempted to ask for reincarnation as
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a particularly deadly virus.
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The book itself is just a compilation of famous people
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answering the question in the title if I were an animal,
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what would I be and so this is kind of a I mean, it's misleading
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use of this.
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What a great book.
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Yeah first off but did the like is that a way to write books?
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It was in 1988.
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Hey, I've got a question.
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What if sons were green I'm going to ask famous people.
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We got a book deal.
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There is a cottage industry for that that I actually believe
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probably all written by like people who are like publicist
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interns.
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You're right.
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You're absolutely right, but be that as it may like we got to
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get a new gig.
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This is a vaguely correct quote, which is a new new high for
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Alex.
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If you are a famous person would like to answer a banal question.
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We will be writing a book if I was a moose.
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What kind of me?
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What kind of me would I be the knowledge by early moose says
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Dan surly moose oldest Huxley author of Brave New World and
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brother of Julian Huxley.
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Yeah, I get it Berkeley in 1962 shortly before his death.
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He admitted that his best-selling book Brave New World written
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in 1932 was based not on fiction but on what the elite were
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actually planning to implement.
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He didn't admit that this is about a half an hour long speech
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with a Q&A session afterwards.
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You can find it on YouTube.
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There will be a link on knowledgefight.com.
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It's actually a fucking awesome speech.
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I'll just actually is a very charming order and Alex is going
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to play clips that are selectively edited to make it sound
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like he's saying that there is an actual plan that he was
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talking about but it's not if you listen to the entire we
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don't have the time to listen to the entire lecture, but I
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recommend everyone go on our eight.
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It's really good quick question.
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The context with win within which the connotation of admitted
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would make sense.
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Are you torturing all this Huxley to get him to admit this
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information that he has been fighting against admitting this
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whole time.
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He's giving a charming speech.
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Oh, well, then he finally admitted it and let me let me
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so he he's been wrecked by all of this for 30 years for 30
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years. He's been wrecked by the guilt of knowing I wrote
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this amazing best-selling book that was actually me stealing
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the plans of the wealthy and now finally in this charming
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speech I can say I admit it that was it also, you know how
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it's just planned Alex Jones likes to talk about like satire
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and how he does satire sometimes strictly speaking Brave
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New World and 1984 or both satire what they're technically
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out there don't understand but be that as it may pretty sure
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they were predictive programming give a little context
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here about the the speech itself.
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He's giving a speech to this student collection at Berkeley
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this this screen grab you have up is hurting me.
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Yeah, it's probably one of his eyes has a twinkle in it.
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It's creepy.
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He looks like the Sandman.
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It's very let me get off this screen very frustrating to
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me. Thank you very much.
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We're gonna I gotta go.
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All right, the context of the speech if you listen to the
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entire thing is that he's having a discussion and he's
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talking about the fears about the form of authority like
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what form authoritarianism could possibly take right and
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of course his primary point is whether or not the Brave
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New World model or the 1984 model is more likely and of
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course, he's like well, I think my model is more likely.
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Well, yeah, I wrote it these clips that Alex is taking out
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of context is him talking about how like well when I wrote
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that I came up with the drug Soma and that wasn't real right
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but with a cocktail of other medications you might be able
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to create that same effect that sort of thing and of course
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you would never want to have an authoritarian regime.
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That's a boot on someone's face all the time.
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That's way less efficient than making someone love their
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slavery exactly and he's talking about it in these hypothetical
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terms mostly about how like I was right or well was wrong,
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right?
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That's more what he's talking about.
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Right, right and he's doing a little professional dig.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think better than this guy.
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Right and it's it's all still just in the realm of like this
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could happen but Alex is making a brick.
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What's your what's your preferred dystopia Dan?
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I would actually probably say the 1984 one.
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See, I think it's easier to give people a fight against
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that, you know.
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Oh, okay.
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So you're okay.
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So you're going to topia.
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All right.
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All right.
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So you're saying that it would be harder to break free of
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the Aldous Huxley dystopia than the 1984 dystopia.
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Because my conception of dystopia is get out.
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Well, then essentially what you're saying is that you would
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rather live in the Aldous Huxley dystopia than the 1984 dystopia.
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No, I'd rather live in the 1984 one and fight against it.
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But you're probably going to die.
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Totally.
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So you'd rather die than live in either of the dystopias.
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Well, I think there's a hypothetical fighting against that
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would work in the 1984 one.
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This is way better than any therapy session you've ever
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been to.
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I want to get to the bottom of why it is you feel this way
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about our two dystopias.
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Death would be preferable to some sort of drugged, desperate
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existence where everyone's being genetically...
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Would it?
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I just smoked.
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I don't know.
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I mean, let's talk about the Matrix, bro.
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All right.
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All right.
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Now that you turned the subtext text on board.
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And here I would like briefly to compare the parable of
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Brave New World with another parable which was put forth
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more recently in George Orwell's book 1984.
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Oh, the British are so annoying.
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I'm inclined to think that the scientific dictatorships of
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the future, and I think there are going to be scientific
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dictatorships in many parts of the world, will be probably
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a good deal nearer to the Brave New World pattern than to
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the 1984 pattern.
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They will be a good deal nearer not because of any humanitarian
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qualms in the scientific dictators, but simply because the
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Brave New World pattern is probably a good deal more efficient
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than the other.
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But if you can get people to consent to the state of affairs
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in which they are living, the state of servitude, the state
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of being, well, it seems to me that the the nature of the
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ultimate revolution with which we are now faced is precisely
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this, that we are in process of developing.
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He made a cut there.
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I feel like he didn't quite, okay.
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Now it's time for me to let this whole Alex Jones things
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go. It's time to start talking about Aldous Huxley.
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Alex made a cut right before he said, it seems to me what
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we're talking about with the revolution.
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And the reason he calls it the ultimate revolution is because
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it's the revolution where we will be able to change ourselves
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as opposed to external forces changing us.
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But I'm sorry, go ahead.
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Nothing.
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I was just, I'm just now running through my old papers about
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Brave New World in 1984 and comparing the two and figuring
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out it wasn't high school.
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It was yesterday.
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I'm bored.
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It's red papers, recreationally white papers.
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Oh, man.
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If anybody finds out how it is, I'm going to euthanize them
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later on.
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I want to make sure that they have consent to it before
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they do. There's a slight pettiness in this speech.
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I'll be honest.
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Yeah, he's talking about how like, well, because the the
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resolution of 1984 is the main character comes to love his
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enslavement.
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Mm-hmm.
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So that's that's kind of the the the the description that
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Aldous is putting towards 1984 is look at how in 1984 all
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of these horrible things happen and there's something that
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is the same.
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Well, and there's something that the person has to endure,
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right?
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Whereas with Brave New World, all of the bad things that
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happen are something that the main character chooses to do.
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Whereas what the main character is enduring in Brave New
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World is nothing but banal pleasure like that kind of a
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thing.
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That's not his take on the difference.
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No, I imagine not.
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So so the difference there and if you're Aldous Huxley, I
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suppose that his his main difference between the two of
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them would be when Aldous Huxley is writing Brave New World,
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he believes that human beings are capable of breaking through
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of taking off of that that kind of like blind drugged out
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blissed out love and finding something better in the future.
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Whereas Orwell is like people if you beat the shit out of
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them long enough, they're going to love you no matter what
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you do.
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So it's a very different like I get why Aldous...
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No, I've left Alex way in the past.
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Alex and Aldics?
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Alex is gone.
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There's nothing there.
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I'm just I'm just...
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No, Aldous's take on it is that...
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I'm just writing a fucking junior high paper on the two of
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them in my head improvisationally.
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Aldous's take on on 1984 is that it was a product of the
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time it was written in and that the authoritarian totalitarian
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fears of the time informed his version of the scary state
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as opposed to his pure version that he he imagined.
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Again, it's pettiness to a certain extent.
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It's very petty.
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But anyway, it's not it's not what Alex is talking about.
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A whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling
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oligarchy who have always existed and presumably always
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will exist to get people actually to love their servitude
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people can be made to enjoy a state of affairs which by
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any decent standard they ought not to enjoy and these methods
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I think are a real refinement on the older methods of terror
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because they combine methods of terror with methods of acceptance
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but then there are various other methods which one can think
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of.
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Definitely a different conversation entirely.
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This was one of the things I talked about in Brave New World
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and the result would be that you can imagine a euphoric
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which would make people thoroughly happy even in the most
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abominable circumstances.
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I mean these things are possible.
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The literal end of the speech is him saying that now that
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we have all these capabilities and it is our great task to
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make sure that all this technology is used to make sure human
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dignity is protected as opposed to blah blah blah creating
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some sort of dystopia now that I've outlined all of the ways
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in which you can be fucked over by this.
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It's our responsibility for you now knowing how to fuck people
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over with us.
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Don't fuck people over with this and be wary.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, the elite have left a massive wave of destruction behind
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them as they cold-blooded Lee experiment on civilian populations
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as if we are lab rats a string of congressional investigations
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has uncovered more than 20,000 secret test that were carried
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out against the American people between 1910 and 2000.
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I bet that number is true individually or 20,000 tests.
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Oh, well, that seems low.
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There's no citation for this but I have no idea how to gauge
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this I would I would bet that number is accurate or low but
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I would also bet I would also bet everything I own that the
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bulk of those were closer to 1910 than they were to 2000.
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That's a wide swath of time where medical ethics was very
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different so that what he's doing there is cheating time
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and statistics.
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Yeah with a fair point shouldn't test well-known eugenics
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study the Tuskegee Civilist Project hundreds of black.
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You're not allowed to talk about 40 Alex Alex.
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You're not allowed 19 specifically Alex you personally are
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not allowed to talk about tested lethal nerve gas on their
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own personnel on land air and sea many died instantly still
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others died grueling deaths over several years it's fucked
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up fucked up federal government commissioned secret radiation
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experiments on thousands of non-consenting patients hundreds
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of hospitals in the US injected healthy men women and children
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with uranium and plutonium at dosage levels ranging from
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non-therapeutic.
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Well, they also used to sell in many of the test subjects
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medical ethics was really fucked up back then my life is
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medical ethics is really fucked up pregnant wives and gis
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were given vitamins by base doctors that actually consisted
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of highly radioactive uranium 239 plutonium 241 resulting
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in violent miscarriages and the death of the mothers.
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Soldiers sailors and Marines were used as guinea pigs and
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hundreds of atomic and hydrogen bomb test.
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Patriotic Americans were radiated side-by-side with lab
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animals.
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Oh, man, it's good thing.
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They didn't use any paint unpatriotic Americans though.
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It's true.
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This is really fucked.
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I mean, it's fucked up this this part of our history.
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Now, it doesn't Rilets were forced to reply through mushroom
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clouds of DNA destroying radiation a lot of this also goes
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to like they didn't know what the effects would be they had
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no idea should have known.
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It wouldn't be good.
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You would hope but they didn't well they used to why 1951
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to 1960 March the US Army paid Israel's Health Ministry 3
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million lira to conduct radiation testing on Sephardic
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children that immigrated to Israel the government-run public
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schools would tell the children that they were going to
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get a medical checkup and that they were receiving an
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x-ray.
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The Pentagon had already radiated more than 4,000 institutionalized
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children in the United States many of which had died more
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than a hundred and ten thousand of the darker-skinned Jews
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no 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays to the head repeatedly
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many of the children died within months all of them lost
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their hair some still live today and endure excruciating
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health problems.
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Alex is a fucking liar.
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Oh, no, here's what he's talking about.
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So the only citations that he offers for this are two links
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to a documentary from 2003 called the ringworm children,
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right?
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Have you ever heard of that?
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Have you ever heard of the ringworm?
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I have not heard of the ringworms at all.
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So this was a documentary which is used by Mizrahi Jews Jews
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they were descended from the Middle East as evidence of
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injustices.
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They suffered immigrating to Israel in the 1950s.
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There were almost definitely very severe issues with their
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integration into Israeli society.
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But this is a pretty bad example of it.
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The film claims that at least a hundred thousand Mizrahi Jews
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were subjected to radiation levels thousands of times beyond
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the maximum recommended dose for treatment of ringworms.
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That's not good.
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However, the documented dosage is given to Israeli children
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were similar to if not less than those administered to about
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2,000 children treated for wing ringworm at New York University
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Hospital between 1940 and 1959.
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Oh, so it's a very different that's not the same.
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No, it's a it's a misrepresentation.
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So the thing that he said is not the same that is the thing
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that is real documents show right medical historian.
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She seems familiar.
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I feel comfortable in this territory.
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Yeah, this is pretty that actually gets really fucked up.
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The reality about this is really weird.
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I was doing great right and up until you said actually the
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reality is even more fun.
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No, it's not more fucked up.
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It's more interesting and it's definitely more real.
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It's seems way more real.
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Well, yeah, so medical historian Shifra Shavarz investigated
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harsh name to live with.
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It's pretty good Shifra Shavarz.
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It flows off the tongue Shifra Shavarz.
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So she investigated this piece of history and found something
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pretty interesting.
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It turns out that the protocols that were used in treating
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immigrants for ringworm in Israel in the 1950s, which is
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what all of these things were right.
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They were called the protocols of the youth of Zion of ringworm.
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Yes.
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All right.
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That's another plus five for me.
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I saw it in your eyes.
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Alex was I did I got that reference at I was just presenting
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it as like these kids were sent to their that the school
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nurse and got radiated, right?
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Right.
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It's not as is the case.
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That's not what even the documentary he cites is about so
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you can't be talking about the fear-mongering documentary.
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He cites is like whoa, hold on dude.
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That's too far.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, so that it was about using radiation to treat ringworm
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with immigrants in the 1950s in Israel and that protocol was
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based on a campaign from 1921 to 1938 among Jews in Eastern
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Europe that is mostly among Ashkenazi Jews in the course
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of which 27,000 Eastern European children were irradiated
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in identical fashion in part to allow their families to
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immigrate or emigrate excuse me since ringworm was grounds
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for exclusion for immigrants to the United States and elsewhere
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the folks running the program in the 1950s believed that
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that previous campaign had been successful and wanted to
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offer the treatment to the Mizrahi immigrants as well as
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others who were coming into Israel because Israel had just
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been created.
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No, it was full of immigrants flooding all those stupid
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fucking bastards what they had not taken into account dumb
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bastards a large proportion of the children who were irradiated
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in the initial campaign had been killed in the Holocaust.
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Oh, no, so they didn't know they didn't know oh, no, they
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didn't know.
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Oh my god.
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Damn.
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That's the most heartbreaking story you've ever told.
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Yeah, these kids died in the Holocaust and didn't live to
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the point where they would have head and neck tumors like
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they would have had they have survived the Holocaust takes
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more.
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It's terrifying fuck but you gotta be fucking kidding.
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I know it's heartbreaking.
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That's horrendous.
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So they were it was impossible that they could have learned
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from the previous campaign not and it's not like that happened
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like the head and neck tumors happen to everybody.
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So some of the people who survived may have not had that
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and even if they did they might have thought it was a side
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effect of living through I don't know whatever irradiation
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or tests that were done to them in the Holocaust.
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I don't know what it is about that story that is somehow
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brutal even more heartbreaking.
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So but the thing is that that x-ray treatment was incredibly
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infected effective at treating ringworms and an antifungal
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would not be it was never invented until 1959 most of the
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world in plot employed the radiation treatment not knowing
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the damage they were doing right generally speaking ringworm
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again.
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It was advertised in toothpaste.
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The what radiation?
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Yeah, they used to have radioactive toothpaste.
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Oh sure.
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Yeah.
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In the 50s.
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Everything was radioactive.
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You would you would brush your teeth and be like look it makes
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your teeth glow everyone's on you would lose your teeth.
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Yeah, it was like look it would make your teeth glow in the
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in the sink generally speaking ringworm was much more prevalent
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among immigrant populations in the early 1900s because the
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means of transportation were so cumbersome they ended up
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traveling and being held in really cramped quarters and
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hygiene was terrible back then as Israel was just forming
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in 1948 that led to huge waves of immigration which in turn
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meant increased incidence of ringworm and this increased
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radiation treatments.
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You can see the tragic end result of bad medicine here,
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but not a coordinated attack on anybody, right?
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We had tons of immigrants that came to Ellis Island.
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They didn't get irradiated.
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So we didn't have that same result here because if you were
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found to have ringworm, which they would check for looking
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in people's scalps and what have you and if you did you
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were deemed unfit and sent back to wherever you came from
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right?
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So this is just a really tragic piece of like one of the
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few non-racist pieces of terrible immigration history.
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Yeah, it's just a tragedy.
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Yeah, and Alex Jones is using it to try and score some sort
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of weird points and it is not working.
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It's just one of the few situations where it seemed like
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literally everybody was rooting for good things to happen
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and through just a bunch of oversights and mistakes.
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Mm-hmm, the worst shit happened the worst God the covert
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testing of chemical biological and radiological agents on
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unsuspecting populations continues worldwide today from
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1940 to 1979 the vast majority of the British population
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was sprayed by aircraft more than 2000 trials with deadly
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chemicals microorganisms without ever being told in 1968
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the Pentagon tested a deadly bioweapon on New York subways
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and place personnel and local hospitals to monitor the
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effects is fucked up.
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That was in 1968.
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Well, there's a lot of things that have happened since then
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but all of them are like inert gases that are released.
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It's not it's not like anything that is actually damaging
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right these studies they need to do to figure out how it'll
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be affected if there were an attack still fucked up.
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I'm uncomfortable with it, but it's not some sort of damaging
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test. Although the rest of sterilization of men are right
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right exactly exactly.
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Yeah.
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No, I'm still on board the United States and England are
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currently testing pesticides and highly toxic experimental
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drugs on tens of thousands of healthy foster children many
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of which die as a result of the experiments prisons across
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the nation have forced inmates to participate in Grizzly
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experiments ranging from pests to the same dioxin so the
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larger group by selective breeding the congenital differences
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between rulers and ruled will increase.
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Oh, don't go become almost different species.
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Do it a revolt of the place going to come back and watch
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unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against
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the practice of eating mutton Bertrand Russell.
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So real quick even his thing there when you understand
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Bertrand Russell don't quote Bertrand Russell it winds up
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coming back and biting you the ass one of the things really
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quick. He was talking about stuff being tested on prisoners
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historically and that is absolutely true.
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That's so true that it's a trope of America's racism.
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The argument that he should be making really is more about
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race. Well, there's that race and class certainly but but
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also It should be about the system of prisons that we have
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where we have exploitative just just entire its enslavement.
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Well, yeah to the point where your body is enslaved anyway,
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this Bertrand Russell quote.
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Yeah, that sucks.
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Let's get into it.
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That sucks.
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Let's go on down into the fucking hole of quoting Bertrand
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Russell were in now.
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It's damn it.
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So this quote is actually real.
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No, I know this.
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I know this person Russell quote is which is why I said
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don't quote Bertrand Russell.
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I don't quote Burton look I like Bertrand Russell.
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I think he has a lot of very smart things to say.
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I'm not going to quote him because most of what he says
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winds up coming back to bite yourself in the ass.
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So this is from a book he wrote called the impact of science
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and society and it's taken from a passage where Russell
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is describing the horrors that could come into the world
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were the Nazis to have won World War Two.
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He's clearly and very specifically talking negatively about
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how things could become a dystopia very quickly if a totalitarian
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state were to apply scientific principles some context a
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quote a totalitarian government with government with scientific
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bent might do things that to us would seem horrifying the
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Nazis were more scientific than the present rulers of Russia
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and were more inclined towards the sort of atrocities that
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I have in mind if they had survived they would probably
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have soon taken to selective breeding any nation which adopts
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this practice will within a generation secure great military
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advantages the system one may surmise will be something
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like this except possibly in the governing governing aristocracy
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all but 5% of the males and 30% of the females will be
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sterilized the 30% of females will be expected to spend
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the years from 18 to 40 and reproduction in order to secure
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adequate cannon fodder as a rule artificial insemination
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will be preferred to the natural mesh method gradually by
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selective breeding the congenital differences between ruler
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and ruled will increase until they become almost different
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species a revolt of the plebs will be become as unthinkable
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as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice
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of eating button there's the quote such possibilities on
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any large scale may seem a fantastic nightmare but I firmly
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believe that if the Nazis had won the last war and in if
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in the end they had acquired world supremacy they would
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before long have established a system as I have been suggesting
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to prevent these scientific as I've been suggesting to
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prevent these scientific horrors democracy is necessary
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but not sufficient there must also be that kind of respect
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for the individual that inspired the doctrine of the rights
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of man so flash forward a little bit quote there is a tendency
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which is inevitable and less consciously combated for organizations
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to coalesce and so to increase in size until ultimately
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almost all become merged into the state a scientific
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oligarchy accordingly is bound to become what it is called
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totalitarian that is to say all aspects all important forms
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of power will become a monopoly of the state this monolith
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system has sufficient merits to be attractive to many people
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but to my mind its demerits are far greater than its merits
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flashing forward a little bit more to page 49 I think the
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evils that have grown up in the Soviet Russia will exist
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in a greater or less degree wherever there is scientific
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government which is securely established and is not dependent
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on popular support now forward to page 55 in concrete fact
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when it is when it is pretended that the state has a good
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different a good different from that of its citizens what
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is really meant is that the good of the government or of
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the ruling class is more important than that of other people
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such a view can have no basis except arbitrary power I think
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that so long as powerful democracies exist democracy will
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in the long run be victorious over dictators and on that
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basis I allow myself a moderate optimism to the future
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fuck you Alex yeah but also fuck you Bertrand yeah you
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were way wrong you're so wrong on all of that yeah on all
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of it well not really not all of it not in terms of the
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thinking the thinking yeah that's that's that's again that's
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why I get it comes down to practical application and how
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shitty people are no I don't I wouldn't do it anyway I
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wouldn't quote Bertrand Russell big up Bertrand HG Wells
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oldest Huxley Bertrand Russell and hundreds of other eugenicist
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constantly bragged about how the establishment believe
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themselves to be a separate more advanced species in the
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common man top eugenicists were bold enough to admit their
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real goal was not improving the heredity of the commoner
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but to further dumb them down so that they could be more
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manageable look at those pants Nobel Prize winner Russell
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wrote it link coaching about how vaccinations filled with
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mercury and other brain damaging compounds would induce
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partial chemical lobotomies and develop a survival zombie
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population new diet injections and injunctions will combine
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from a very early age number all we're getting back to
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Bertrand and the sort of leaves that the authorities consider
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desirable and any serious criticism of the powers that be
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will become psychologically impossible this is the exact
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same book yeah the same context yeah Bertrand Russell
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yep over a hundred years ago eugenicist social planters
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trying to go inside the most evil mind you can think of and
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you were like well that sounds like him by 2007 be literal
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than 20% of the US population or on some type of prescription
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antidepressant but in the case of foster children a sector
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where the state has total control at least 2 thirds are
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forced to take a cocktail made up of on average 7 psychotropic
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drugs feel like that's not true chairman of the Texas Society
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of psychiatric physicians Joe Burkett testified before the
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State House Select Committee hearing on psychotropic drugs
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and foster care and shocked the public when he said that
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2 thirds of foster children in Texas had been placed on
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psychiatric drugs because they were very very sick from a
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bad gene pool a lot of these kids come from bad gene pools
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they don't have stable parents making good decisions besides
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the gene pools they've been traumatized by abuse neglect
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and problems and then they've been traumatized by separation
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all those things predisposed to mental illness so fuck first
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of all the gene pool stuff and then fuck Alex but also the
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end of that guy what he was talking about makes me yeah
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that's I yeah so yeah that was like oh man that's like that's
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such a guy raised in a place where they say the n-word all
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the time trying to do his nice like he's trying to be look
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I'm just saying that the cultural pressures these and
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then he just keeps using the n-word a bunch but at the same
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time he's never seen it's like no it's about all that society
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is done to all these people and he keeps saying the n-word
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a bunch of like no I agree with you but you gotta not do that
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Jordan I'm sorry about this I agree with you got to not do
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that I'm about to read a heartbreaking paragraph at you
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always gonna be bad oh can this guy go fuck himself to no
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he's I don't know he is seems all right this is about the
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bigger picture okay statistically speaking children
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in foster homes are more likely to have experienced severe
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trauma and then you factor in the definite separation they've
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experienced from their family the population is more likely
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to require pharmacological intervention this is not an
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unexpected spike in statistics no quote a review of the
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current literature on the mental health issues of children
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and youth and foster care reveal that said children are
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at a greater risk approximately 80% of having psychological
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social and developmental delays as compared to children
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in the general population approximately 18 to 20% the
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regularity and severity of emotional problems among children
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in foster care seem strongly related to their history of
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deprivation neglect and abuse and the lack of security
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and permanence in any of their lives rates that you see
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in children in foster care expressing specific mental
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issues make some of this clearer when you look at post
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traumatic stress disorder it's 21.5% in foster children
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as opposed to 4.5% in the general population panic disorder
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11.4% versus 3.6% in the general population anxiety
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disorder generally for 9.4 versus 5.1% drug dependence
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3.6% versus 0.5% these are the sorts of things you would
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expect to see in elevated levels compared to the general
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population seeing as most people are not put into foster
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care unless there's something traumatic that happened in
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their young childhood hence the PTSD spike correlation
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not causation what yeah, okay and frequently a little bit
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frequently changing a little bit frequently changing living
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situations would give anyone tremendous anxiety not knowing
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where they'll be living next week.
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They could be moving all around right now.
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Hold on.
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Here's where here's another study that I found those really
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interesting a 2012 study by the National Survey of Children's
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Health found that children living in non-parental care were
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substantially more likely to have experienced quote adverse
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family experiences in childhood.
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They found that 70% of children living with two biological
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parents in the household experience zero such events compared
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to 18.7% of children living in household with zero biological
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parents. There's a difference of 30% compared to 81.3% of
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children who had experienced one such effect.
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So there's that that shift there, right?
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But the big difference comes when you look at children who
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experienced multiple events children living with two biological
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parents had a 0.9% incidence of experiencing four or more
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events compared to 29.9% for children living with no biological
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parents. That's an almost 3,000% increase when you separate
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out kids in foster care.
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So you exclude people who are living with their grandparents
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or something like that.
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You find a 48.3% incident of four or more adverse family
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events in young childhood and a 15.7% of none.
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That can't this is so statistically relevant.
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It's such nonsense.
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It's so cruel to imagine like now we're just trying to drug
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these kids up just trying to drug these kids up now.
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No one's taking care of them.
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But now that said yes, we know all of those reasons and yes,
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they all make perfect sense.
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Um, but have you considered blaming the only people who are
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trying to help or the victims?
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Yeah, we could do that.
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Okay, so we could blame the victims.
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Do you know what it is?
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It's Millennials Millennials.
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They always have these safe spaces all these Millennials
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with their I don't like experiencing for traumatic events
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in my childhood.
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So fucked up to learn that like Alex Jones is a big fan
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of the Bundy's and is so cool with Lavoie Finicum the guy
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who got shot during the the Wildlife Preserve standoff
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when he had a child farm.
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He would raised money by having foster children.
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I imagine he wasn't taking great care of them.
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I imagine not all of them stayed there for all that long.
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He was probably a part of the problem.
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Alex is thrilled to just ignore that and point a finger
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at the the aftermath.
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Yeah, and that's embarrassing Alex's plan.
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As far as I can understand it is Blame the victim if you
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can't blame the victim blame the blame the people trying
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to help the victim.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there we go.
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And that way and that is actually the best way to understand
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everything that Alex does and that and everything that
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the GOP reach prosperity.
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There we go.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, sorry about that.
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But that rant got a little pet.
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No, you're you're fucking about that.
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You're fucking dead on so mad about no, I had a friend.
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I had a couple friends in my life who have been through
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the foster care system and it makes it a very personal
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issue for me.
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Yeah, no, no, you're fucking nailed it.
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The Western world is now implementing eugenics pre-crime
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policies fetuses are now being pre-screened according
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to family histories of crime from Portland, Oregon to
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London, England Child Protective Services are enrolling
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newborn children into criminal databases at birth and
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forcing them to attend probation hearings at age 2 that
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doesn't sound right.
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That's not true at all.
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What would that even entail the source that he who's a good
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boy the source he has on this not me got him the source
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is a future of criminal the source he has on this is one
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article out of the Guardian.
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I believe the UK know the Telegraph.
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Excuse me, and the actual the article is really fucked
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up because it is very much about doing visits to children
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who are high-risk their parents are drug addicts or they've
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been in prison and stuff like that and the way I was reading
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it was like, oh this might be a thing where they're like,
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maybe we can we can do some therapeutic intervention.
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No, no, it's not right.
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It seems like it's like we're going to track them.
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Yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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That sucks.
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That's a UK.
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I have no idea what he's talking about in Portland, but
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that's not good still none of this is probation visits for
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two-year-olds.
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Yeah, he has no backing for that.
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No evidence.
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The overlords of scientific dictatorship are ruthlessly
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prosecuting a war on our most defenseless in December of
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1974 the US government made third-world population reduction
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a central National Security issue the operation plan titled
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National Security study memorandum 200 simply a regurgitation
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of the British Commission on population created by King
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George the 6th of England in 1944, which openly stated that
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populist third-world nations posed a threat to the international
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elites Monopoly of global power.
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That is nothing to do with what he's talking about.
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The National Security study memorandum was written by Kissinger
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in April 1974.
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All right in Edward and it reflected that soon to be impeached
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President Nixon wanted a study carried out regarding the
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effects of rising population.
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This study should focus on the International political and
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economic implications of population growth rather than its
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ecological sociological or other aspects the memo internally
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even shows that it's possible the end result of the study
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would be that nothing needs to be done quote what if any new
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initiatives by the US are needed to focus international
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attention on population problems.
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So if I understand correctly Kissinger was like, hey, you
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guys want to find out if we should do something?
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Yeah, the memo further goes on to add this touch of humanity
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quote the study should take into account the president's
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concern that population policy is a human concern intimately
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related to the dignity of the individual and the objective
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of the United States is to work closely with others rather
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than to seek to impose our views on others.
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All right, so it's Nixon so that can go fuck right on right,
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but whether or not the objectives were actually reached by
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this this document itself is not evidence of what Alex is
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talking about. He needs to do far more work.
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If he wants to prove his point you is nothing nefarious
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and nothing evil in this document.
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He's a fucking asshole now.
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I'm furious.
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You are mad.
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I'm sorry, but Kissinger authored us plan.
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It's so fun.
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I did 13 not to be as mad as you were a massive population
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reduction was called like I don't know Kissinger recommended
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that IMF and World Bank loans be given on condition that
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nations initiate aggressive population control programs such
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as sterilization Kissinger also recommended that food be
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used as a weapon and the instigating Wars was also a helpful
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tool in reducing population.
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In 1972 the Nixon White House also implemented a eugenics
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policy which was directed by George Herbert Walker Bush
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then United States Ambassador to the United Nations Bush
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advised China on the formulation of their one-child policy
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and directed the federal government to forcibly sterilize
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more than 40% of Native American women on reservations.
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Nothing in this has citations at all.
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Now.
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I believe that seems like something you would really need
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a citation for I believe it's possible claiming that this
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sort of thing was done claiming that HW directly said we
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need to sterilize 40% of the Native American women women
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population that requires a citation.
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I believe that I think he's a monster.
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I think America is a monster and when it comes to Native
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Americans, I don't think there's anything beyond the pale.
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I definitely want a citation though.
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If you say that George HW did it so legitimately the only
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citation he offers in the bibliography is a transcript of
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Nixon nominating Bush to be the ambassador to the UN in
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December of 1970.
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Okay, this is nothing to do with China directly.
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It has nothing to do with the native peoples the one-child
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policy wouldn't go into effect until 1979 when China when
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Nixon went to China in 1972 Mao was still in power and wasn't
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into the one-child policy searching for any backup on this
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claim is pretty tough.
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All of the references are pretty thin.
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Oh, is it pretty tough?
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Yeah, because everything is fucking thin as shit all these
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conspiracy blogs are just like Bush stepped out of the agency
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and back into his father's role in the international investment
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bankers right world from January 77 through 1980.
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He chaired the executive committee of the first International
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Bank of Houston then directed the first International Bank
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shares limited in London.
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So these were both subsidiaries of the inter first group the
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largest Bank in Texas Bush traveled back and forth to London
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the hub of the family's permanent business place in the
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British Imperial financial and political intrigues.
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So again acting with the Middle East Asia Africa and Latin
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America, no support during this period China adopted the
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brutal eugenicist one-child policy.
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So while George HW was just doing all kinds of other shit
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China changes their policy and they're like, haha.
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We got you even the fucking claims that are made on these
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crazy blogs that I tried to find a support that there's a
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paragraph out of one of it.
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Is that just is it that has a nose quarter?
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Yeah, it's nonsense that you got to do better than this.
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You have to prove your claims.
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Do you his documentaries been watched by more people than
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timeline doesn't even work.
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Let's make a documentary about us watching his documentaries
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that we're doing a little bit the Bilderberg dominated club
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of Rome advocated environment.
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What did it take six hours to break?
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I don't know.
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We're on 9 we're on how many hours are you on?
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What does it been?
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It's been about seven Western populations would accept
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serfdom if it was packaged as saving the earth.
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We're gonna make it.
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Like 20 more minutes of this the last 20 minutes of this
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episode is just gonna be watching the documentary crying
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be blah.
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You're just gonna hear weeping sounds of the bag more willingly
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give up their national sovereignty if it were sold as a
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way to help the planet.
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This is a bullshit going on.
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This is the way are we going to get back to the Texas pipeline
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or whatever it was.
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We actually might see are we going to get did he did they
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build the road?
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They didn't.
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Oh, well, then fuck this whole documentary spoiler alert.
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So this is about what he's talking about here is about the
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club of Rome.
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I don't know we've already done the I don't want to get
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into it go to knowledge fight.com curious at all.
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I did a club of Rome isn't bad guys the think tank also
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concocted the peak oil fraud as a way to create artificial
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scarcity boy.
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Here we go.
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Club of Rome created the all right oil.
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You made it almost eight seconds into we're not going to
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talk about to the club of Rome new.
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Yeah, this is new.
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They created peak oil.
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All right.
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They did create categorically not true.
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The club of Rome was founded in 1968.
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Peak oil was first theorized by geologist Marion King Hubbard
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in 1956.
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Time has shown that Hubbard's assessment was not really all
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that accurate but available information and Technologies
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were not what they are today in 1956 and the underlying
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principle of what he was warning people about might not
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be materially incorrect.
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Well, it may be true that we keep developing new ways to
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extract oil from things like the tar sands in Alberta.
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For example, the new methods we develop all come with some
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form of diminishing returns at this point most experts
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accept that we've discovered pretty much all of the available
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easily extractable oil on the planet.
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There's not much more to find as such from this point forward.
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It's a countdown till the liquid oil reserves start running
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out at which point we'll have to take on some additional
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burdens along with the oil we extract some of that comes
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out in the form of expense extraction of oil from shale is
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more expensive because the end product is way less effective
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as an energy source.
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So more of its required to achieve the same goal.
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Similarly creating fuel out of garbage is possible, but
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it's incredibly expensive a barrel of oil cost Saudi Arabia
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approximately nine dollars to produce currently as opposed
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to about $45 for the United Kingdom to do the same using
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waste products to do it costs about $80 a barrel beyond
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the much higher cost of these alternatives.
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They're also the much more difficult.
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Wait, yeah, their expenses in the form of pollution along
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with the prices of some of these the fracking that's required
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to access a lot of the more difficult oil reserves that
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we're finding now has been shown to increase airborne emissions
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of methane gas significant danger to contaminate groundwater
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and even cause seismic activity a further problem that complicates
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things is that they found in the past that people are lying
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about discovered reserve figures of oil their motivation
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to do so is pretty clear seeing as that it inflates their
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businesses stature and there's no formal process in place
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to audit reserves of the claims that people make in January
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9th of 2004 shell announced that it had overestimated its
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proven oil and gas reserves by 20% or 3.9 billion barrels.
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That seems really high instances like this make it increasingly
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difficult to get an accurate assessment of how much easily
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available oil is really out there right now and how close
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we are to having to rely on the diminishing returns right
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the bottom line is the Club of Rome did not come up with
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peak oil further people making definite like predictions
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about peak oil are kind of dumb and they generally are a
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bit off but there will come a time when we have we it's all
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going to be downhill.
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It's just inevitable right because of the methods that will
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be needed to extract the oil.
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It'll be too expensive it we can't charge people that much
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for it. No one will buy it those sorts of things and the
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argument is just fucking simple prepare prepare for that
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now. It's not worth it to prepare then that's going to be
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a disaster.
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We can do it now.
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It doesn't yeah.
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Anyway, peak oil anyway, so if you ever played a game about
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resource management, you already understand the problem and
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realize we're being dumb and not fixing exactly.
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Yeah.
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And the Club of Rome has been aggressively pushing a global
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carbon tax as a way to fund their planetary government and
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the grand copy of the United Nations Global Biodiversity
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Assessment.
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It states very clearly that we must reduce the human population
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from what's current level of about 6 billion people down
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to about 1 billion.
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He just repeated the same thing from a different angle.
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He's lied.
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Yeah, I know.
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He said the exact lie from different angles with different
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words. It's amazing.
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It's fantastic.
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Hoffman is talented.
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Perfect people in the 1970s.
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I assume South Africa developed race-specific bioweapons
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to target blacks and Asians and then subsequently sold the
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technology to Israel in the mid-1980s.
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This is not true.
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The idea of a race-specific bioweapon comes from the 1942
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Robert Heinlein science fiction novel The Sixth Column scientists
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have not seen evidence that anyone has created such a weapon,
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but the idea of creating a weapon that targets a specific
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DNA sequence is theoretically possible, which is kind of
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scary. So allegations have been made that Israel created
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a race-specific bioweapon to kill all the Palestinians.
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There was a paper called The Sunday Times and they posted
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an article claiming Israel was making this weapon in November
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of 1998, but this is likely a complete misreading of a piece
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of fiction about the very topic that was sent to the paper
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by science fiction author Doron Stanitsky. In the aftermath
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of the release of the article, genetic researchers called
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the idea wildly fantastical, though conceded it might be
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theoretically possible. The Sunday Times planned a follow-up
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article, but most likely due to poor sourcing and the embarrassing
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backlash, they never wrote part two.
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Also the articles, the authors of the article never have
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spoken about it publicly.
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So the article that was the source for the coverage, there's
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coverage on like Wired and Foreign Report of this. That's
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where Alex gets this idea.
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Those are the two authors from The Sunday Times who have
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never spoken about this ever again.
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Right.
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Good call.
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The Foreign Report and Rents.com reported that they sold
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the weapon, or it came from South Africa, as an apartheid
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weapon. It's all a lot of bullshit.
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Oh, god damn it, racists.
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There's no support for this anywhere.
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Of course not. What even would it be?
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I don't know.
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What even would it be?
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What is there that, because it's not a thing.
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Nope.
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It's not a thing.
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It's theoretically possible.
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Here's the, it's just not a thing.
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Like there's no better, there's no better proof of like,
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well, there's no difference in races or anything like that.
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Here's the best way to prove that there's no difference
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between white or black or Asian or anything like that.
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Try and build a bomb just to kill one of us.
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People are trying.
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I know, and they're not, the fact that we've gotten this
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far suggests that there's no real genetic difference.
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They would have already done it.
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If we were going to be able to kill each other based on race,
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it would already have happened.
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Yeah.
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Un-fucking-real!
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In September of 2000, the project for the New American
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Century published a document in which Dick Cheney described
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race-specific bioweapons as politically useful tools.
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Now, I will say that I want Dick Cheney to die in a fire.
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Please.
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I'm channeling you a little bit.
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Thank you.
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A little bit uncreatively, but I respect it.
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This is incredibly taken out of context.
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The idea that Dick Cheney is saying that, hey, maybe race-specific
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bioweapons could be a political tool.
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Can we just skip this part?
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I don't want to, I don't want to ever.
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I'll just sum it up.
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Okay.
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Instead of reading this long quote.
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I don't ever want to hear from Dick Cheney.
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He's talking about, he's talking about how combat is going
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to change in the future and how, you know, you're going
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to end up using drones and stuff like that.
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Just like technology is going to advance.
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And here's the, just the actual sentence, advanced forms
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of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes
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may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror
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to a politically useful tool.
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This is, this is merely a glimpse of the possibilities
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inherent in the process of transformation, not a precise
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prediction.
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So what he's saying is that along the way, as these things
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that we don't necessarily want evolve in terms of warfare,
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states may start using biological warfare as a political
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tool, whereas before it was just in the realm of terrorism.
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That's what he's saying.
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Right, right, right.
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In context, that's what he's saying.
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He's not saying...
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He's saying that terrorists will eventually be the people
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running companies, countries.
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Yeah, he's not saying that like, hey, this would be useful
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for us.
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Right.
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That's, that's a very, and fuck him, but that's a unfair
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reading of his words.
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Yeah.
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No, again, I hope he gets a little fired tomorrow.
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Well, why would they want to reduce the human population
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when that means less money for them?
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Because they're assholes like you.
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Most people have no idea.
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They're not after money.
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They have all the money they need.
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They're after power.
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That's their aphrodisiac.
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The overlords of the New World Order are now aggressively
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pushing for a worldwide one-child policy.
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No, they're not.
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They're not.
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty simple.
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They're not.
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We already saw how it worked the last time.
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Why would we try it again?
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They're not.
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I have a really long explanation.
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What kind of idiot would look at what... China just ended
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its one-child policy, right?
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If you're the globalists and you see that, what possible
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way could you be like, that's a great idea.
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I actually...
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There's no way that that's possible.
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I was going to skip past this, but I'm going to read it
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anyway, because you need a little Leo Zagami in your life.
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I'm very unhappy with this.
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It seems so silly to even imagine it.
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You saw it's a one-to-one.
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We tried an experiment.
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Here's how the experiment worked out.
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It didn't work.
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Let's not do it.
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What kind of insane, even if you're imagining an enemy,
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what kind of insane enemy are you imagining that would
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do that?
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Suni, Leo Zagami writes in his book, Confessions of an Illuminati,
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the time of revelation and tribulation leading up to 2020.
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His information, perhaps not surprisingly, is sourced to
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an article written by Paul Joseph Watson on Infowars.
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In his book, his assertion that Bill Gates and George
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Soros and all the usual suspects are trying to kill off
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everybody is immediately followed by this passage.
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Quote, China is a trendsetter among the false philanthropic
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monsters of the elite. From ancient times to appease the
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gods of the astral plane, they offered animal and sometimes
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even human sacrifices, as I often heard personally during
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my time in the sects within the networks of the Illuminati.
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From this point of view, the plan to limit births and
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force abortion certainly has a magical significance to
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the astral plane and could be considered as a human sacrifice
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when done intentionally. At the end of March 2015, a drone
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pilot made a shocking discovery.
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I was flying my quadcopter over the Georgia Guidestones
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and found these crazy stains that looked like blood.
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Start over one more time.
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At the top or the Georgia Guidestones?
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Crazy drone pilot.
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Yeah.
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Is our sighted source for this.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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This drone pilot, I was flying my quadcopter above the
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Georgia Guidestones and found these crazy stains.
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And boy, how did I see Bigfoot?
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That looked like blood.
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He just walked right out of there.
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Said the pilot who works for PhenomenalPlace.com.
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Very intriguing.
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Well, who else would he show up to as a phenomenal place?
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Very intriguing to watch because you don't see any stains
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from the ground at all.
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These stones look completely normal from the ground level.
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Turns out Bigfoot is blurry.
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But from the top you can see a big splash of this.
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I don't know what you can make of it, but it does look
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like blood.
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So I guess what he's suggesting is that they're sacrificing
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people or animals on top of the Georgia Guidestones.
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I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's saying.
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Such nonsense.
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So anyway, this is the sort of place where you get this
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rhetoric, the idea that they have one-child policies.
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Again, Leo Zagami put this in his book, citing Paul Joseph
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Watson, and then immediately got into that.
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So there we are.
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All right.
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Have we survived this yet?
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We're so close.
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Is this over?
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We're so close.
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Oh, gosh.
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When it began, you only had to pay a tax bill.
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Only later did they imprison you.
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I've forgotten my own name.
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Now the exact same proposals, the penalized couples who
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have more than one child, are being made in the United
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States, England, and Europe.
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I want to promise you this.
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The end of this is very funny.
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Having large families should be frowned upon as an
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environmental misdemeanor in the same way.
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Yeah, no, I agree.
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In the push to reduce global warming, children, according
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to Summer, the new culprits, a think tank in the UK says
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too many kids are what's making the planet worse.
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And it's children's fault that there are too many kids, right?
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Should be frowned upon as an environmental no-no akin to
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not reusing your plastic bags, driving one of those big
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gas guzzling cars, taking long trips overseas.
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The UK, in fact, has negative growth.
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I think Canada does too.
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That still, families in our rich countries shouldn't have
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more than two kids.
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In 1998, Ted Turner pledged to give more than 1 billion to
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the United Nations to be spent in the implementation of
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population reduction policies planet-wide.
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Oh, Ted, you weird fucking lunatic.
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Oh, hey, we're getting the Ted Turner quote.
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I love Ted Turner's quotes.
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I love him.
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Oh, I love Ted Turner.
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Can we get a whole, can we get a whole, can we get a ramble?
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This quote right here, a total world population of 250 to
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300 million people, a 95% reduction from present levels
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would be ideal.
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It's quoted as being from an interview in Audubon Magazine.
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This quote is alleged to be from that magazine.
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It's not quite accurate and definitely misused.
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The actual quote from the magazine from November 1991
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was dug up and it is screenshotted online.
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The quote is, we got to do it all together.
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That's why we have to do away with the word foreign.
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We've got to think of each other as neighbors.
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Instead of the word foreign, we need to use international.
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Whether we like it or not, we're going to swim together
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or sink together.
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We all 5 billion of us here on this little Earth swimming
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around in space.
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There's too many of us and most of us are living incorrectly.
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If we had a much smaller population and over time we could
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have an an ethic where we only had one child and maybe
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over 300, 400 years, we could cut back to 250, 300 million
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people. We could replan our cities where there was a central
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area and you could walk or ride your bike to work so you
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don't have to drive 30 miles to work like you do in LA.
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That's, that's where we stop being into, this is a quote,
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and start being in, this is a Ted Turner quote because
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it's like, and then you could walk down the streets and
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you could see the ocean and shit out of fucking LA.
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I've been living in Atlanta for so long.
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I don't even fucking, if we had 250 million to 300 million
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people, that'd be more than enough.
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But he's also talking about over 300, 400 years if people
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just had less kids, you could get the number down to an
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acceptable level.
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He's not talking about over 300, 400 years.
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It would take a lot, eh, whatever.
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It would actually work out pretty well in terms of the
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amount of people who just die every day, you know, of natural
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causes or of accidents and stuff like that.
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So we got to kill 95% of the world.
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No, you wouldn't.
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You just have to wait a long time and have people have an
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ethic where you just have less kids.
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He's right about like the numbers and stuff like that.
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Oh, yeah.
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He's wrong about a lot of stuff.
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About how that would work.
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Ted Turner's crazy.
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He's Ted Turner.
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He's crazy.
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Don't fucking take him like he's traditionally been a like
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a complete nut job.
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Yeah, he paid for the WCW to exist, right?
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That should be all you need to know about him.
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He is the reason that the critic, what was the name of the
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billionaires?
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Duke.
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Duke.
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Duke Phillips.
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He is Duke Phillips.
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Yeah, which is the best, which is the best reasoning for
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why you shouldn't add him in your documentary if the globalist
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did exist and it was all these billionaires.
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They would not allow Ted Turner anywhere fucking near that
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place.
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CNN won't let him come in.
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Ted Turner is going to give up the game.
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Yeah kicked out of his own company.
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Ted Turner like legitimately is the world's largest owner
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of bison largely because he has a restaurant that serves
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bison and doesn't want other people to be able to have a
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supply chain.
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Because he's a fucking lunatic.
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He's not also mixed in there in conservation.
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Yeah, no, no, he's Ted Turner.
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Yeah, he's a weird dude.
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Yeah, I can't source this quote, but I remember it from
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an episode of Jordan Jesse Go that Jesse Thorne was talking
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about seeing him speak at a conference and he's like he
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was asked about how he had been married a bunch of times
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and he's like, you know, what say what you want.
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I didn't do anything with any kids.
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Like that sort of an answer is like, holy shit.
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That is why you do not love him into the globalist meetings.
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Yeah, no, absolutely not.
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So he gave an interview to Fortune in 2013 that included
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the following exchange.
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Listen, say what you want at the end all this gone is still
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going to be a country.
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Wait, what does that mean?
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So he gave this interview to Fortune in 2013 the I'll start
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with the interviewer.
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What's your prescription for how to manage population and
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thus manage the environment?
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Well, we need to have less children.
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I believe it needs to be voluntary, but it needs to be
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encouraged.
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There has been tremendous progress in 1950.
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Not one single country had a stable population.
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They were all growing all 200 countries.
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Now, I think 40 or so countries have negative or stable
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population.
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Japan is losing population rapidly and quite a few other
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countries are too.
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The problem is at the rate that it's going we're losing
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out on the population battle in order to have a really healthy
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long-term future.
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We need to have about two and a half billion people compared
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to neighbors plot replies.
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We've got seven seven and a half billion right now.
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That's two and a half that two and a half billion goal came
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from Paul Ehrlich who wrote the population bomb 50 years
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ago. The good news is that if families around the world choose
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to have one child starting right away, we'd move back toward
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the two and a half billion without any abortions or population
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control.
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All we need to do is use family planning look I had five
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children.
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Okay, but when I had those five children 50 years ago the
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world population killed four of them cuz I'm Ted fucking Turner
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the world population was 3 billion when he had them less
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than half of what it is today.
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So I don't know anyway, you know all this idea of him being
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into depopulation is mostly cuz he's crazy crazy and he is
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for reducing the population but only through voluntary means
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and again throwing Ted Turner in there is great is because
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if you get the kind of answer of I didn't do anything with
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any kids come at me say something like that and all he's
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gonna be like, well, I didn't kill anybody.
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All right, you're fine.
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Yeah, like what do you like a tribute a quote to Ted Turner
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and Ted Turner will be like I probably said that the idea
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that he's actually into activity population and one child
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policy being enforced mostly comes from an article that Paul
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Joseph Watson wrote on this website called activist post
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and it sources back to an article in the Globe and Mail
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where Ted Turner spoke at an event held by the National
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Center for Atmospheric Research.
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The article asserts the Ted urged a one child policy, but
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the quotes that they offer do not reflect that right and
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there is no real citation for anything only what this writer
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says, right?
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But the quote that they do have is if we're going to be
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here as a species 5,000 years from now, we're not going
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to do with 7 billion people which is probably fair.
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Anyway, we're going to do it with either far more or far
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less. I imagine far more and way uncomfortable.
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Yeah.
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In 1999 the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation gave 2.2
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billion to Planned Parenthood the United Nations population
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fund and other population reduction groups by 2007.
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The Gates had given more than 30 billion dollars almost
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exclusively to population control groups.
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Here's what's fun about Bill and Melinda Gates.
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They have a website and they have all of their tax information
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on it.
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That's publicly accessible now that you've never you can
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go and check all of their tax returns.
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You can find everything that they've ever done animal
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everything they've contributed can't do it according.
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They would never be president acting like that.
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Yeah, they give audited financial statements for full
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transparency according to the International Aid Transparency
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Initiative.
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Alex is totally wrong unless you think literally everything
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counts as population control for instance between 2009 and
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2015.
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They gave 5.6 billion dollars to infectious disease control
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programs population control an additional 1.4 billion to
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combat malaria and love that disease and one per dare you
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fight 1.3 billion towards programs.
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Wait, what?
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Oh, I'm sorry towards STD and AIDS prevention one billion
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towards tuberculosis relief coming in at number five.
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Tuberculosis doesn't even doesn't need relief relieve
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that to be coming in at number five on their giving targets
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is reproductive health care.
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That's their fifth highest giving thing.
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It's not not number one at all, which isn't really number
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one is actually the giving tree.
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Sure.
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That's not even population control really and they gave 900
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million towards reproductive health care past that you end
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up with about 1.6 billion towards agricultural aid 375
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million towards sanitation project among so many fucking
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other causes that add up to 21 billion dollars in the last
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six years that they've given how much how much is Alex given
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I was what I would be my more interesting question is how
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much would it take for Alex to shut up like legit if you
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okay, it's gonna be a billion your bill Melinda Gates.
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You're giving out billions of dollars everywhere Alex.
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How much does it cost to get you to go away?
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You know, it would be an awesome thing to do like a legitimate
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question be Bill and be like I will give you 10 billion
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dollars to shut the fuck up and record the call and have
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him say oh, okay.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I'll do that and then be like no way now you've cucked him
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out. You'll release the tape.
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No, no, no, I think it would be I think you would have to
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follow through with it.
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No, it would be it would be more damaging if you reveal that
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he wanted to go for it and you're punking it now.
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It'd be then it takes away his masculinity.
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He got fooled.
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He it would never work like that because if I'm Alex Jones
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would ever work with I'm Alex Jones like this.
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Look if we're gonna war games how to defeat Alex Jones if
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we had Bill Gates money, we got to do this, right?
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I think a payoff is the way to go sooner later, right?
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No you because if you if you come to Alex with like I'll
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give you a billion to be quiet.
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He's never gonna say yes.
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He's got too much pride 10 billion.
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He's got too much pride.
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Keep talking nothing.
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You'll never buy me.
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You'll never find a million billion.
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Well now that you took it down.
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It's not now that you're in now.
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I'm not interested in that much.
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Yeah, I took you down by a thousand percent got it.
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You got to follow through with it.
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Like if you're if you're Bill Gates, no, like literally
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because if you have the tape, it doesn't matter if you follow
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through but you're all that matters until you follow through
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know because you're recording it from your end because he's
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never going to say yes until he has the money.
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That's when you got to record it.
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Okay, so the preliminary sort of negotiations are going to
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be like I will give you 10 million dollars to shut up right
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baby exactly.
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I will say yes when I see the money that would be enough
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though.
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This is how I ransom.
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All right.
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All right.
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Well, let's get back into this.
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Are we still doing this?
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I guess so.
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The controlled corporate press cynically reported that the
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gates were giving their money to help third-world children
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Judy Bella Melinda Gates were dethroned as the world's most
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generous philanthropist when their friend and fellow population
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reduction enthusiast Warren Buffett gave 37 billion to fund
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an army of population control groups.
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This headline says that he gave 37 billion to charity that
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doesn't say that at all.
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He has no reference no citation for giving it to population
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control things.
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What's what's on like now?
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I gave away 37 billion of it to charity which we all know
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what charity means.
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Yeah, but just all population control.
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Oh, well, it's unlikely that that's the case because he
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currently only has 39 billion dollars in assets.
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So if you gave 37 billion dollars to charity in 2006, maybe
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who knows anyway, here's what I find interesting about this
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the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation donated huge sums to
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organizations dedicated to contraception and women's health
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research specifically the development and accessibility of
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interuterine devices IUDs according to Bloomberg in 2013.
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The foundation gave away nearly half a billion dollars to
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organizations supporting reproductive health.
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Now, here's what's fucking really cool about this.
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They did it all secretly for the nookie.
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Come on.
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That's a reference got it.
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Oh, I got it five.
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Okay, fine.
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You still get five points.
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So they did it secretly they went through a bunch of different
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companies didn't want to bring it back to necessarily him
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right funding of this massive research into like because
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they're smart enough to realize that people would be fucking
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dicks about it.
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Yeah, and I mean there was an article on Jezebel even it's
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like if you have an IUD thank Warren Buffett right a lot of
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the funding for the development of them was able to be to
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happen because of his funding right Judith Desarno former
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director of domestic programs for Berkshire Hathaway Warren's
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investment fund said for Warren its economic he thinks that
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unless women can control their fertility and that it's basically
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their right to control their fertility that you saw your
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sort of wasting more than half of the brain power of the
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United States part of the success includes the contraception
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program in Colorado which provided women with free IUDs
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and resulted in a 40% decline in birth rates among teen moms
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and a 42% decline in teen abortions over the course of five
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fucking years the New York Times reported without the
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fucking and I was that was me editorializing.
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Yeah, so a lot of these initiatives that people like Warren
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Buffett have done have been incredibly effective and it's
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such a it's obvious abortion.
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It's an obvious thing because if you want to pull a fucking
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utilitarian argument, well then actually divorce your utilitarian
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arguments from all of your racism and bigotry and you're
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like, oh, yeah.
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Well women are equal and we're wasting them.
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There's like that's really if you want to pull some sort of
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like well women shouldn't make 77 cents on the dollar to
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men because men need to buy things.
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Well, you're no get rid of that bullshit if you want to make
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the most if you want to be the most productive recognize
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that you're wasting half of a woman's life or whatever it
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is or you're fucking destroying all of this shit just out
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of your own petty dumb sexist misogynist bullshit and then
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you finally meet a capitalist who is unfortunately the fucking
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most capitalist and he pulls out a utilitarian argument.
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You're like now this guy's evil because he hates women like
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you're fucking stupid.
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Very I'm so mad Dan.
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I have been dealing with some sort of weird roller coaster
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up and down anger ride for this whole 10 hours.
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We've been fucking doing this and now he's going to throw
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a quote up a quote a quote dad from dear.
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Oh God and the quote in case this doesn't come through in
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the audio and actually I think the world will be much better
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when there's only 10 or 20% of us left and of us left.
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Dr.
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Eric Bianca.
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This is a dubious quote prominent University of Texas
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biologist.
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Dr.
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Eric Bianca while receiving an award from the Texas Academy
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of Science said that the worldwide AIDS pandemic was quote
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nice no good. It's too slow and went on to laud the virtues
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of Ebola because it would kill 90% of the world population
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quickly.
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When his statements erupted into a national controversy
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his graduate students defended him stating that Bianca was
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too conservative and that all humans should be killed.
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All right, they didn't say that but most frightening was
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the fact that in a crowd of over 1,000 prominent scientist
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local newspapers reported that 95% of those in attendance
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gave Bianca sustained standing ovations every time he stole
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the virtues of mass culling microbes and man's destruction.
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So here's what I want to say about Eric Bianca.
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Well based on what we've heard so far.
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You're going to tell me that.
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He called for the extermination of humanity.
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I think he might have actually but I think he's one of these
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guys I think he's like you.
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I honestly think you and Eric Bianca probably have a lot
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in common that we do because I think that there is a commonality
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in terms of like saying things that you can stand behind
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that are inflammatory in order to sort of provoke argument.
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I think that's kind of his style because I've looked into
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him been seeing like some of the positions he's taken watch
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some of the interviews that how does he feel about white
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genocide?
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I think he's a soft.
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Yes.
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All right.
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All right, Bianca.
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I don't know.
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I'm not sure he hasn't spoken on that.
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We are setting up a blind date.
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He seems kind of like an asshole but also like I've met professors
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like him in my time in colleges and stuff like that in general.
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He's trying to provoke people into critical thinking right
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typically and so he ends up getting trotted out on shows
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like Tucker Carlson had him on and stuff like that and they
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just use him as a punching bag to like throw his quotes in
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his face and be like, well, you know, you're not really that's
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not really what I said, right?
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Like well, why would you want to destroy Humanity?
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Why do you think Ebola is so great?
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Well, whatever this isn't going to work and then he looks
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like that.
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He's got this giant beard and everyone's like, wow, the
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crazy guy is getting insulted by Tucker.
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I hope we get big enough for them to want to do that with
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me or me because I'm the one who looks crazy.
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No, no, you fucking crush it.
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You'd have facts and all that shit and they come crazy.
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They would look the right wing would totally invite me on
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because they'd be like, oh, he's going to say some shit
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about white genocide and I'm going to be like you're goddamn
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right.
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I'm going to say some shit about white genocide turn into
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Alex. I am going to be like, listen, we need to kill all
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white people.
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You you I'm just going to if I was in studio, I would point
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to everybody in there and then me and then I'd kill myself
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and it'd be hilarious.
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Be the new Lauren Duca.
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Oh, I crush it Tucker Carlson.
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It would be a very short appearance.
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Yeah.
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So from the transcript of the 1999 speech that this is in
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reference to here's some of the text that I was able to
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find but here's what's going to happen and after the human
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population collapses, there's going to be a lot fewer of
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us food is going to be diminished pollution is going to
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go down and which will be good but there's not going to
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be much to recover from our descendants are going to curse
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us for the party.
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We took the party we had and I recommend Richard Heinberg's
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book the party's over oil war and the fate of Industrial
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Societies.
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This man has thought about these things deeply the end of
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oil is good too, but it's not anywhere as good as the party
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is over.
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There have been wise people for a long time.
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John Stuart Mill in 1858 took issue with the whole business
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of grow grow grow and he said he thought stationary systems
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made sense stable systems where you don't have bubbles
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that are going to burst and you're going to go bankrupt.
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He said he didn't think people had to elbow their way to
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the top to fight struggle with each other just to get resources
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that if we could just live in a stable world where we didn't
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continue to grow and weren't based on this grow grow grow
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thing that we could work on the art of living and that we
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would become better human beings for it and these are some
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of the things that Donella Meadows says in the end of limits
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to grow and this is the end in the 60s when I started studying
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ecology.
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There was a lot of sand at the top of the hourglass, but
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in my short stint of 40 50 years as an ecologist most of
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that sand has run out.
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There's not much time left that you can get on an airplane
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go to Madagascar and study something while you can thank
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you and you just ended the speech.
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That's a great way to end speech.
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I mean, he's kind of like this guy.
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I like this guy.
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I think he's wrong about John Stuart Mill, but I like this
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guy. He's kind of an extreme speaker in terms of like some
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sort of sensationalism and shit like that, but I think he
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says these things to provoke a intellectual conversation
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and a reaction out of people and he's also a geologist.
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So he's concerned and ecologists are not that high.
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So he's he's kind of worried about the ecosystem more than
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he is about humanity and he makes especially about how your
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feelings are.
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Yeah, fuck your feelings.
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Who am I Ben Shapiro? Fuck your feelings.
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Fuck your feelings, bro.
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I'm Jersey Shore Ben Shapiro.
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How you doing?
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Are you going?
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All right doing good.
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We're on our night here the money Bob.
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I don't even know and that folks is where we will need to
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cut things short for the day.
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We have one episode left tomorrow and you know, we will
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jump right back in after as we see at the end of this episode
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Jordan might have found a spiritual kin in Dr.
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Eric Pianka not entirely sure if that fully tracks, but we
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will be back tomorrow with the thrilling conclusion to the
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endgame coverage where we have completely lost interest in
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doing this for the most part couple spoiler alerts for tomorrow.
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We get into finally get into climate change and a little
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bit about transhumanism super fun stuff.
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So check out that we'll be back with that tomorrow.
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Isn't that what people do?
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But yeah, I guess other than that this has been exhausting
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coverage, we appreciate it and it will be done after tomorrow.
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So thanks again and we'll get you on the flip side by Andy
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in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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