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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a person color I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
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Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I forgot to turn on our mics
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Fuck you, George are the live listeners that will be edited out of the podcast
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Hey guys, this is welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan
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We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones for the chat room
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We are drinking prophecy wine
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My birthright is what we are doing. Absolutely
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Well, I believe prophecy wine is actually one of the first wines we drank on the show
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I believe the first one was the expedition maybe that sounds right
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Just then I think we cuz you cuz it was thematically appropriate for the for the secret of 2017, right?
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And then of course the Bogle in honor of Bogle job the great
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This is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex. I don't know anything about I also know a lot about the wines
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We drank in the past
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Guys welcome aboard. How are you doing Jordan?
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I'm doing all right. That's good. I'm doing all right. This wine is is very nice. I feel like I'm gonna steal some more of your
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Mystery Oreos eventually, but the mystery Oreos guys
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They're okay. I
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Feel obligated to do a review but review is just they're okay
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It's a it's a Japanese Pepsi flavor where you're like, oh, this is great for two sips
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And then you're like I never want to the Japanese green tea KitKat was a disaster
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I don't understand all the words you just put together number guy
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I got very excited about it, and then I was like this is terrible, but something that I'm still excited about god damn it
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Dan that transition is amazing is our new donors like to give a shout out to Phil. Thanks for joining up with the show
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I'm a policy wonk we appreciate it. So thank you very much. Thank you very much Phil Mickelson
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Also, I'd like to give a shout out multiple major award. Anyways. I also like to give a shout out to a new globalist
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Shit big big shout out going out to you David are we appreciate it. I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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We'll send it to you. Yeah, send me your email address
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My girlfriend's mad that they still exist, so let's just send them on out also
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Because we have like some donations and policy wonk stacked up
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We have not made progress since the last time we announced the the progress towards the end of the month goal
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I don't know. What did you just say I was announcing the goal
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in terms of
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Us reaching the end of the month trying to raise a hundred extra dollars per month right in terms of getting the Alex Jones documentary
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documentary made right and
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Then you said a bunch of words in a row that didn't make sense those people who I just gave a shout out to
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Yeah, we're already factored into the last oh
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Okay, 75% of the way
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Declaration right so we can't announce them every single episode or no we can't announce all of them
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No, I just should have done math is what I'm doing. You're not good at that
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No, but what I am good at doing. You are great at doing is listening to Alex Joe there
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We go, but unfortunately Jordan. I've come to a point that I am I
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I I told you a little bit about this before the show. Yes, and I
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Just don't I don't think there's value in talking much about Alex Jones in the present day anymore
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I think that he is an entire entirely a distraction. I think that's all he's doing
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He's running interference for something and desperately trying to distract people from and discredit the investigation that Robert Mueller is
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Right, right. All right, and I'm not enticed joined literally every other Republican and I'm not entirely sure why he's doing that
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I mean, obviously it's team sports and his guy is the one who's being investigated. Yeah, there's there's some of that
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But I don't I don't feel like that's a satisfying answer as to why but I can't speculate as to why I mean
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We've we've uncovered him admitting that he's spoken to Russian intelligence
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But that doesn't necessarily mean that he's under Russian blackmail. Of course not were that to be true
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That would explain his desperation. He has been peed on though before absolutely. Yeah, I think that's very very likely
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Given the number of times he's done crack. Yeah, 100% likely Alex Jones has been peed on in the past
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Yeah
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so I
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Wrote an article about this on the website right and I just want to play some clips because not everybody reads the articles
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And so they might not understand some of the frustration that I've come to in terms of Alex Jones in the present
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on the 23rd of January earlier this week Alex Jones got on air and did one of the most
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Embarrassing things I've ever seen in my life
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And that's considering that I've watched tons of Alex Jones. He married Dennis Rodman. Absolutely. He married himself a lot Dennis Rodman
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What would he ended up doing was?
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So to give you some context Jordan because they don't keep up with all these stupid idiots out there in the world stupid idiots
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Yeah, you know the ones who am I Chris Jericho? What's going on? All right, so
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There is talk on all the conservative and conspiracy boards about a mysterious notorious memo
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That has been written
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Oh
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I recall the memo the one that they have threatened to release and they will release it right and it is
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Absolutely fine for them to release it and they will release it at any moment because the bombshells within it
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It's so terrifying. It's if you look at gun if you read that memo your eyes would explode out of it
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It's like at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Absolutely all of the Nazis eyes and brains would melt off
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It makes now it makes very strange
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That this is such an important memo and they've known about it for so long and they still haven't released it Dan
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Well, you think there's a reason that they would play up how important it is without ever actually releasing it
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Well experts who've chimed in it all on I also have made note that like it's not an actual
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Intelligence product or anything like that. Oh, so there's literally nothing standing in the way of them
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Just releasing exactly which is the way I described it on the blog was that it's Schrodinger's memo
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It's damning and nothing at the same time. Yeah until it's revealed right which you can't do
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Just like the text message of the secret society. Like we're gonna get to that the moment they revealed that
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everybody who was on the fence went
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But
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Fuck you
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We're gonna get to that in a second
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But all this has to be taken in consideration of the stuff we were talking about before the trends that Alex is experiencing with
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his fake
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Intelligence source Zack not being as cool as Q anon rare and him falling for the antifa
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Soros documents that his researcher found on 4chan. Yeah the embarrassing bullshit
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He lives a weird world of having to get out in front of the story
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That is already always already out in front of him. He has been left behind by the conspiracy world
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And so there's this notorious geo GOP memo that went around
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And so Alex gets on air on the 23rd and this is how he he lays it out
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Now I've got a lot of sources obviously in Congress. No, I've got sources
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In the Pentagon, I've got sources in federal law enforcement. I've got sources in academia. I've got sources in the press for sure
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I've got sources across the board heard about it
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and in the last few days, I
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Have basically reverse engineered. What is in the bombshell?
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congressional memo and
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Then I've checked with my sources without them revealing anything secret
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Played the little game of is this accurate and I feel that it's would this be what's in it, by the way
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So write this down and I shall put it in a sealed envelope inside of a lockbox in the bank
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And when the memo is revealed, so shall they grab that pull it out and you will know by reverse engineered
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By the way, if any of that was true, the sources are still revealing secret information
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Just because you play a game where you're like am I hot?
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That doesn't get you around
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Doesn't that get you around any classification? No, this is top secret. Okay. No, you can't say anything
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Well, you know how but is it? Okay, let's just play 20 questions Jordan. You don't have to say yes or no
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You're not gonna play this
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You know how in the house way truth or dare when they have open testimony in the house or in the Senate intelligence committees
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And someone will be asked a question about something that is classified. Yeah, you know how they don't say. Oh my god
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They say I could not confirm or tonight
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I can't comment thought that you would ask me that question, right?
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So Alex starts the show off by saying that he has all these sources and he's figured out what's in the document
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He's going to after the break, of course
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Top of the hour. Yeah, he's going to tell you what's inside it right a little bit later in the show
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The narrative turns out it's bees. That's why they haven't released it you open up that memo
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It's not bees but I give Alex a B for one to RB beekeeper bad rough cake a
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Little bit later Alex decides to go full hog on this thing, okay
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Okay, folks. I've got to go off air right now. And and we've got a very powerful video that's on drugs report calm
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We're leftist
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Throw fish spit on people. It's it's a compilation of women's March. I gotta go off air because William Benny's former
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Technical head of the National Security Agency the main technical advisor obviously on the big film Snowden
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Who's
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Advising the president and the CIA director Pompeo, he's now advising the president
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He's gonna be joining us next hour. He just said hey here. Why don't you just have the actual memo?
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They're talking about now. There's another memo. They're writing about this memo
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But here it is just sent to us our memo. I've got to go off air. This is the classified memo
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Right here. I mean I told you I have sources and that I'd reverse engineered it
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But I guess the decision has been made by whoever's telling Benny to send this to us
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So there's a lot of problems here spoiler alert. It's not the memo, okay
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What he ends up having is this this foreign intelligence service court memorandum and opinion approving the two
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2016 section 702 certifications it has been public online
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since at least May 11th
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2017 when it was covered
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ad nauseum and it's the source of all of Trey Gowdy and all of the like people in Congress's yeah
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Nonsense about section 702. Yeah, because it does bring up some issues that have happened in the past
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We've even fucking discussed it on the show, right?
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This is not something secret in class at classified now
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And it is not what the notorious memo that the GOP has been talking about and playing up
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well, yeah, because it's existed for a long time this is a big problem and it's an even bigger problem that Alex is saying that
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William Benny the technical head of the NSA one of his major sources and frequent guests
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Sent it to him saying it was the notorious memo because that means William Benny is either a fucking idiot
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Which is entirely possible. Yeah, or he's in on it actively creating propaganda with Alex, which or
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He is fucking with Alex because now god damn it if that wouldn't be hilarious
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That's possible. But if he is you had the chance if you have the power fuck you. Yeah, okay
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All right. Yeah, I can tell you're excited. No because he's on the hook for this
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Alex how because Alex said he gave it to me and said it was the document
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So if you're playing games and you want to fuck with Alex you give it to him be like
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But you can't say I you got it for me. Why cuz it's class if you're William Benny
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Who gives a fuck what what's gonna happen to him? I don't care one one. Okay, first off. There's nothing
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There's no legal ramifications because it's already public. It's all nonsense
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So you can hand it to him you can it's it's handing anything to Alex and being like hey
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This is classified and then watching the fallout happen
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Like it's not like he's taken seriously by other media sources that he's no longer gonna be invited on right William
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It goes on for wars. Yeah, exactly. But so just so we can be clear Alex a little bit later does specify that
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This is the memo that everyone's talking about but but I still want to keep that I just want to clown on Benny
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No, I think this is brilliant if he is fucking with Alex. Here's here's the situation, right?
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No consequences for him. Even if you think that Alex would be mad at him for lying to him
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Alex can't say that Alex has to continue to believe whatever bullshit he believes right?
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He can't go behind the scenes and be like Benny
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Well, he could yell at him behind the scenes maybe but so he wouldn't do that because then he couldn't get any more fake memos
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In the future, so he makes it overly clear. Yeah, that this is the memo that everyone's talking about
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It's a lot of them. Oh, so then he does this a little bit later in the show, which is
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Pretty fun. It's not the memo Roger. Let me interrupt you. I'm literally in kit Daniel's office
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While we're trying to post it they grab control the computer and turn it off and fry it right in front of us
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Yeah, and then yeah jumping in they are inside our computers right now, but they can't stop us
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They can't stop us from publishing it because guess what idiots Trump already published it. It already got published
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We haven't told you yet. You're fools six months. Oh, you're not gonna stop anything globalist understand that Hillary Clinton and all of you
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Well, I tell you I've never seen something like this live time
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In kit Daniel's computer because I'm on there saying posted. Can you believe that?
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I think it Daniel's ugly is looking at porn. No, I absolutely cannot believe it. Oh, of course not
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It's something that's been public and discussed for seven months. There's no way
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Globalists hacked in and fried his computer because he's trying to post it just from a technical standpoint
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Doesn't seem silly from a technical director. So I think I think he means
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That that computer just melted down. I'm I'm going I'm not going to say I mean I'm saying literally from top to bottom
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No, I think melted as if it was poured into lava kit. Daniel's was looking at porn
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That's what was probably looking at porn. So it all leads to this and of course, this is the inevitable payoff
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They said that Watergate was a constitutional crisis
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That was child's play compared to what we're looking at here. Stop their whole house of cards
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You gotta do five more minutes for me coming back out of break here. I just need to plug once
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This is very expensive around this operation fuck
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We got Soros back ribs coming after says, you know doesn't surprise great products and in full works life calm
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I even forgot to bring my plug sheet in here, but we've got the combo with the x2 and the secret
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So whatever he does a long plug. So the issue is that he's drive love and Roger Stone right now
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He created gotta give it to us not important. That's not that's beyond that's beside the point right now
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I know the issue is that Alex Jones is creating this giant distraction
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hoax nonsense where whether he believes or not that he actually has the
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Document he knows that he has to get in on what's cool on the internet in the conspiracy communities
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And he has to do one better. And so he does it's embarrassing
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Wait, so is anybody else pulled this bullshit?
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What has the internet pulled has the internet specific bullshit internet? Like I'm what with this has has the internet done something without this document
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Yeah, I mean like when you're talking about 4chan or anything like anybody pulled this shit out of their ass
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But Alex no because everyone on the internet would be like this isn't gonna play
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Yeah, that's crazy Alex Alex got called out on it very quickly, but he doesn't you know, he doesn't give a shit
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He doesn't care. He just it's a way to try and get more ears on his commercials all time
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So this narrative doesn't follow to the next day on the next day on the 24th, I believe yet 24th
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He's talking about the Secret Service test for the FBI text about a secret society
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So he just jumps to that because that's what everyone's talking about
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That's what all the conspiracy world is up in arms with and I didn't listen to the show today
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But I have to assume he's on to a new thing cuz that fucking thing got blown up
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Yeah, those texts got released and they're nothing he's just it's it's not worth our time
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that's an interesting that's an interesting point because that is kind of the
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quintessential decline of the US media in the first place is that
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Once you start once we started having a media that chased after the internet
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It was it was over right, you know
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Like because the internet has the shortest attention span in history once the media starts chasing the internet
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They destroy their attention span as well, right? So Alex is the same way if he actually had the memo
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How big of a story is that? That's well, that's forever a story
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Well, but that's a that's a feather in his cap forever and he just moves on the next day
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He has to pretend so does everybody else though
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He has to pretend that he does though because he has to pretend that he's the king of that world, right?
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He's not he's not the the internet is much better at this than him. Yeah and much more creative and he's like
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It's a it's a problem and I don't really care. I don't have you studied rhizome theory. Anyways, keep going
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I I just there's not much we can do about the present stuff
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I really don't think so and I I think that it for I I look I'm not gonna toot my own horn
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But I think I can do a pretty decent job of investigating a lot of stuff
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Yeah, one thing that I can't emotionally handle doing is chasing bullshit threads in the immediate that Alex throws out
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Yeah, and so this is sort of a resignation on my part and that is I don't care about the present anymore
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I'm not interested
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I may check back from time to time
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But whatever everyone's talking about whatever the newest meme but Alex Jones is I probably
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Will have very minimal awareness of it. I'm going back in time. I
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Don't care. I'm only focusing on the past now because I think that is where truth is. Yeah
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whoo, I don't know I
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Mean, there's an argument to be made that
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That's a way of coping with your disgust and hatred of the present. It's not rather than rather than combating it head-on
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No, it's not it's it's I can't handle watching his show in the present. It makes me really sad. Yeah, that's true
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It's a bummer. It's a desperate man raving about nothing
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Yeah, and it's not it like I told you before the show. I think it's beneath us quite frankly you if you
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started editing out
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The Alex Jones parts and just left in Roger Stone having a great old time
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I think I'd be fine with it for a good 25 minutes. He got fooled by the document too. Who cares?
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What Roger Stone doesn't care fair Roger Stone is living the best life right now
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Maybe maybe maybe for a little while even with that short little clip of him talking. It was like yeah
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They said that Nixon was crazy
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Well Jordan this is this is my way of telling you something no no I found
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Some really old episodes. Oh no, and how old we're talking 2008
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No shit, so we're going ten years back in the past about time today. We will be going over March 18th
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2008 I'll proceed forward from this point through 2008 and see what we can learn
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Do you know what excites me the most Dan? What's that? I'm officially Marty McFly. I honestly
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expected a round of applause
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about that reveal
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We're gonna be covering 2008
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This is very exciting. I mean we're gonna be able to cover Obama's election
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Yeah, there's all sorts of things from the past that we'll be able to get it
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You found a whole trove of shit. Did I we're just going to
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Absolutely dismantle 2008 and then maybe the future you know even from there. You know to nine ten. Yeah, yeah
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So we I was I was hoping you'd come upon a trove from 2028. Oh, yeah
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We'll be going back ten years in the past and ten years into the future stay tuned very bigoted about knowledge fight time machine
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Very bigoted about aliens. Yeah, it's like that. Mr. Show gleep glop scratch. Absolutely. So Jordan, let's go
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Back in time. Don't ever don't ever hear you start doing that every single episode
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I'm gonna kill you on March 18th. Alex Jones begins his show with a three-minute audio piece a
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prepackage of
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Guess what James O'Keefe's first project
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Mmm, James O'Keefe was just this was the this was the not this
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Yeah, so Alex Jones has a big audio package at the beginning that includes a couple of James O'Keefe's prank calls to
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Planned Parenthood, which we will listen to now. All right
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What's your position?
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Okay, what would I underwrite abortion is that apply to minorities, too?
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If you specifically want it to underwrite an abortion for a minority person
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You can target it that way you can you can specify that that's how you want it spent
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Okay. Yeah, cuz there's
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So I got there's definitely way too many black people in Ohio. So I'm just trying to do my part
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Whatever well blacks especially need abortions, too
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So that's what I'm trying to do
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For whatever reason we'll accept the money. Okay, so that's the first one not great
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She that was real. She clearly said whatever. Yeah to his racism. Yeah
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It's it's it's the sort of thing where you get the sense by listening to them that
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Whenever he proposes this this idea of like where you know, I'd like to give money for
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Yeah abortions for black people right the way they interpret that is
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You know, there are a lot of people who don't have access to health care and minority communities, right?
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Uh, sure. Great. That's nice of you to want to help. Yeah, absolutely. And then just like any charity that helps
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Anybody who doesn't who can't afford help on their own. Mm-hmm. Great. And there are also minorities who can't afford it
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I asked I would posit that these prank calls really reveal more about the people making them than the people receiving them
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because the positions that they
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advocate
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Aren't really out of line with their real position. I know
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So it's it's weird to listen to him talk like a white supremacist and not be like, oh, yeah
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You're a white supremacist. Well, why don't you like he's pretending that he's he's playing a character, but he sounds very sincere
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Well, let's listen to the next one. Yeah
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Good afternoon, this is autumn
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I'm interested in making a donation today
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What about abortions for the underprivileged minority groups? Oh, absolutely. We have in fact wonderful fantastic news
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We just received a very generous donation to our women in need fund
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Wonderful. I want to I want to specify that abortion to help a minority group
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But that'd be possible like the black community for example, certainly
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Okay, so so the abortion couldn't could be you know, I could give money specifically for a black baby
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That would be the purpose. Yeah, absolutely
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If you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help an African-american woman in need
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Um, then we would certainly make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically
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So now the calls not very nice the calls not done. She's being very clear about what they
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Are accepting this as yeah, and he is you know full of racism at this point
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The call could have ended because he has gotten out of her what he wants to get out of it, right?
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He has said something vaguely racist and they've been like we'll accept your money, right?
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However, this is where we find out. He should have taken a level one course at Second City
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Well, the call goes on another like 35 seconds. This is all unnecessary and probably just it feels like he's venting. Yeah
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Great, because I really face trouble with
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Some of action and I don't want my kids being disadvantaged, you know against black kids. I just had a baby
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I want to put in his name, you know
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So that's that's definitely possible
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Always always so I just wanted to can I put this in the name of my son. Absolutely my son great
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He's trying to get into into colleges and I'll be applying maybe
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He just we're just really big
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Wait, what are you doing? He really he's really faced troubles with affirmative action. Alright, what is that?
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I don't know. What is facing troubles with affirmative action? I don't know. It's complete nonsense
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It's it's just it doesn't it doesn't prove a goddamn thing
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So the idea that the idea this baby is trying to get into college
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Well, the baby is applying to college right already right and he's faced troubles multiple with affirmative action. So that means that
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Everywhere he goes he gets affirmative action to out. Yes this baby but like that's a lot of affirmative action
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You know like people like Alex and Alex himself are not in favor of affirmative action
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So the idea that James O'Keefe is using affirmative action as a racist ploy to prank
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Planned Parenthood it falls in line with their beliefs. It's just that he's saying. Oh, I'm really racist about this
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Yeah as opposed to being like no
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It just gives people an unfair leg up and like whatever sanitized version of their complaints about affirmative action
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They really have right. This is just the reality him on the phone is like
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Oh, this is just letting out what my real complaints about affirmative action are. Well, not just not just
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Not just that but it's it's very much like
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Okay, you're gonna make a racist donation. That's still a donation to Planned Parenthood
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It's like all the donations in Mike Pence's name is just like yeah, sweet fine
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Whatever and the further point is these people that he's talking to on the phone?
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Generally, their business is making money for Planned Parenthood or their low-level functionaries who work there
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And they're right. They're not gonna tell him to fuck off on the phone. They'll get fired
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No, also, they're they're just like they heard him say I want to make a donation and they're like cool. Cool. Cool
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Whatever it is you're saying is great. I don't care you give me the card number
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You even heard in the first one that like the ladies like whatever
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Whatever. Yeah fine and obviously believe believe whatever you want about us killing minority babies right off
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We're still gonna take your money and use it to do good. We're in idiot. Yeah, your racism went so far
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You're doing good for black communities. Yeah, which I guess I mean, that's fine. You're you're accidentally doing good as a prank
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Yeah, yeah, but I don't think he actually gave them any money
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I think it was I bet he hung up when it got to that then he's a fucking piece of shit for that
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Screw of course all of that like if you're gonna do that fucking go all the way
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I would say so you and you have to otherwise you don't have receipts to quote to quote the great insane clown posse
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Let's go all the way
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Anyway in this next clip that was great quoting. Thank you in this next clip Alex Jones sort of talks a little bit about O'Keefe's
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Stunt of recording calls with Planned Parenthood, which he got into a bit of trouble for because yeah
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He didn't have the people's consent to now it's against the law
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I believe that the person who went into the clinics pretending to be pregnant and recording people she did time, right?
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I don't know if she did time, but she did get into some trouble about like harassment. Yeah
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The recording people without their consent she had to donate to bland parenthood specifically for minorities
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So here's Alex Jones's assessment and I this doesn't look good
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They student group randomly called seven different out of a list of hundreds
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They randomly chose seven different planned parenthoods. They all said the same thing if you believe that he only called seven you're insane. Yeah
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giggling
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snickering
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absolutely
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It's all about killing blackie
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So liberal so sweet and of course, you'll never hear Barack Obama criticize
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No, no, there'll be lots of
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Yelling and screaming about black pride, but at the end of the day, they know who they work for
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We'll cover this in a lot more huge transmission today. Stay with me. Okay. He sounds a little lethargic
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I think he sounds horny
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It's all about killing blackie well, he's getting into it
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He's getting into it in a way that he doesn't always, you know, like and you can see flickers of the next the 2015
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Planned Parenthood hoax. Yeah, even here like there's there's the misquoting of people acting like they're
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Indulgent in and all this it's it's it's fascinating to me like to take this document from ten years ago where he's like
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Oh, I see present day in there
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Why I I just like the fact that nobody is bombing Planned Parenthood's in this year
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I guess I'm glad nobody is a
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Spray-painting swastikas and all of that shit there in 2008 was a very was a much more innocent type
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I think there was admittedly there was at least one shooting at a clinic. That's true
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The Tea Party was not a great organization now, but at least they weren't out and out Nazis gotta give them that wow
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They were proto not they were pretty nazi ish. No, I agree
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So in this next clip Alex Jones gets into discussing the tapes a little bit more and I don't think he does a good job
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They randomly called seven different Planned Parenthood's and got the same response
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Laughing smacking of lips right there
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The smacking of lips is literally what he says about those people in the Planned Parenthood tapes from 2015
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So like that's a direct verbatim
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Example that it doesn't accurately depict either
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Instance of the people from Planned Parenthood. It's just a weird hang-up. He has about people
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Living tapes but smacking of lips somehow like indicates to him evil. It's weird and it's consistent. Yeah, I do think
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The second ones weren't O'Keefe, I'm not gonna lie
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I think it's pretty good imagery because whenever you hear smacking of lips you think of a very animalistic behavior
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I don't I think of a child an annoying child. That's what I that's what I think of weird
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Well, maybe it's cuz I got yelled at a lot for smacking when I ate when I was very good
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I still feel a little bit of shame. Yeah, and you should back to the clip. Oh
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There's too many blacks I want this for blacks. Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely
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And the people that run these I've been around them I've met him I protested them they are
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Literally some type of weird zombie
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They are just the sickest most wicked cult-like people you can imagine
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Don't believe me just go down and go into one of these places and talk to them
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One has to experience the matrix before they
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You know can really be told about it. It's just better to experience it
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I think that you know his call his listeners who take him up on that and go go down there and talk to them
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Probably wouldn't go talk to them probably go yell at them. Yeah, I was gonna say I like
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Experience the matrix when you're hostile to the matrix
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I like the idea that the people who are going to work every day are the cult not the
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Insane people standing outside of the building every day screaming and holding signs if you're gonna choose which one was the cult
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Would it be the person getting paid a living wage, right? No. Well, and the other thing too, is that like
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You know, the the only real relevant conversation here is
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does society
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Overwhelmingly and by and large approve of abortion as a medical procedure that women are entitled to have
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Yeah, and we've had that conversation and the answer like it should be over answer is yes should be over
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so all of this other side trapping bullshit is
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Really just it's the same thing. It's just distraction over here to try and chip away at
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Women's right to reproductive health under the name of racism or something else
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Okay, so if your argument is that Planned Parenthood is racist
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Well, we can get into that isn't that kind of because that's kind of their argument is yes
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Cuz that guy can be a white supremacist and then they'll be like, yes, we'll kill minority
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Well, actually put a pin in that cuz we're gonna get back to it
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There's another clip later where Alex talks about Planned Parenthood being racist and then I can dispel all that gotcha
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But in this next clip Alex Jones claims that all black leaders are globalists. That sounds right, which not racist
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No, I don't know one black leader, you know, he could have just stopped there
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In Austin, Texas now, I don't know one black leader in Dallas where I grew up
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I don't know one black leader in the country about my leader hired somebody the media sticks out there
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There's plenty of white leaders talk to him anymore. They're assassinated or never even given any media attention
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but the mainline
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pimps in the New World Order, you know the the the minions so what you have there is already a
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Dichotomy that is unsustainable
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It is untenable because he's basically saying that any black leader that you're aware of is controlled by the globalists, right?
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The only good ones are dead
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The only good ones are right rare
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Which you could take a look back through history and see a lot of very good black leaders who have been killed
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Yeah in the Fred Hamptons
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Who have been murdered
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Murdered specifically for being good black leaders, but that does not mean
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Necessarily that all of the black leaders that you do see are globalist control just because some good ones have been murdered now
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But you you see you understand what the intention of that argument is
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It's to disenfranchise and take legitimacy and power away from any black voices that you do hear
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I agree, but Al Sharpton is a globalist. That's just a truth that that's like the fact that might be the case
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That's the facts also James David Manning globalist. Yeah, absolutely
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On the New World Order and they've got every major groups people under control
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But the Judas codes to control the black community
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They'll give fiery speeches about devil whitey all day and they'll just talk about Farrakhan, you know
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Dump their chest and talk about how?
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Whites
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Are absolutely wicked and devilish and cunning and hurting the place where we talk our races pastor to
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When an average the average white person's a guilty, you know, chicken-necked
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limp-wristed person running around with a guilt complex
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Rolling out red carpets for black people in my experience
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That's not my experience but also we can tell already in 2008 Alex Jones is his deep
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deep white identity ideas and guilt
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Narratives firmly in place. I don't want you to make me feel bad for all the bad things that everybody
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I've ever known has done to black
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Well to be fair, I don't even think that he's at the point of saying I don't want to be made to feel bad
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I well, yeah
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I think he's saying that all white people already unnecessarily feel bad and he's pointing the finger at them for that, right?
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It's not even he's not evolved his position at least in this rant
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Point where yeah to the stop. I'm making me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm afraid of feeling bad kind of thing exactly
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Which is which is what is that progress like?
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To take his to be so correct that his denial then has to spiral further down into insanity
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I would call it like I call it regressed. Okay, I think it's negative of progress. I mean, I would call it racism
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Yes, so speaking of which now we get to that clip where he gets into Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger
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And are we gonna do the Sanger thing again? It's a different. It's a different part of it's a different saying
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We've already discussed the idea that Margaret Sanger was in the KKK. She wasn't she was
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We've already discussed the idea that she started clinics specifically in black neighborhoods
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She did he didn't the early ones were in african-american neighborhoods and Jewish and immigrant communities there for women
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Yeah, which may be the largest issue of all the clinics assholes clinics, especially in the early times were disproportionately in low-income
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Neighborhoods because those were the populations
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They were serving right because they needed help because rich people have always been able to get abortions
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Even if you make it illegal
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Rich people will still have it right and that's the reason that they're in poor
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Neighborhoods is because they don't have access to it the way that they should and that's something that through her writing
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She made very clear the idea that like making it illegal doesn't end abortions. It just makes them you kill. Yeah. Yeah
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Exactly, basically. Yeah, and so but Alex Jones has another quote from her
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That's maybe why they that maybe they hide like maybe that's a smart idea, too
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maybe they hide behind the idea that Planned Parenthood is racist in order to kind of
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Counteract the fact that their hatred of it is more misogynist than anything else
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Inability, there's some of that for sure. Yeah, like any any any
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Criticism of Planned Parenthood on that kind of angle is
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Misogynist in nature. Yeah, it's essentially saying women shouldn't be allowed to choose men should be allowed to choose for women
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Right, like that's what it really is. Yeah, so to to imagine that
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It is it is racist is like even if you think Planned Parenthood is racist
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You're still a misogynist. You don't you don't get a pass on. Yeah, you don't you don't win
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Oh, but the argument that they're making is like that the murder of babies because that's the way they view it
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Right and the racism the specific trying to exterminate the black community because they pretend Planned Parenthood is doing
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Precedes it supersedes my misogyny. This is more important
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That doesn't make any sense take the plank out of your eye before you criticize the speck in mine. You don't understand and like
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Why would you need to escalate it to racism? If your argument is they're murdering babies?
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Why do you even need that additional like oh and they're racist because I think some people are
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Stupid and are tricked by the racism narratives regarding Planned Parenthood. Yeah, but then
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Fine with murdering babies so long as it's not racist I think oh, that's a good point. I didn't think about that
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Anyway, I want to get to this clip because we're coming up on maybe my favorite clip
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Okay, one of my favorite clips of all time
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This one is not that but it is about Margaret Sanger in a new way that we discussed that and the truth about it
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It's the Sanger banger. It is the truth about it is pretty interesting
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You have Planned Parenthood predominantly in the minority areas
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It's a mission and these are the official writings and letters of Margaret Sanger and foundation minutes
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saying that the black person is a weed and must be exterminated and
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It's big there's letters to all these robber barons
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She was getting millions of dollars and that was equivalent of billions back then she was being set up these
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Foundations and how well we've got a higher black front doctors because the blacks only trust other blacks
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So that part is the one we've already talked about there at the end the idea that in
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In a letter that she wrote she was saying that she wanted to get black doctors
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And it wasn't because we can trick them. It was probably because they don't have as many jobs
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Well, that was so many different reasons. I could have black doctor. That's probably part of it
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yeah, the excuse or the reason thing that she gives in the actual letter is that
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People are more likely to be trusting with people of their own social set. Yeah, and so the idea
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Of opening up to a white doctor might be more difficult than a black person opening up to a black doctor
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Right. And again remember this was like in the 1920s now, this is not like furthermore
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I don't have any problem with that. I don't either
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I don't think any black person should trust a white person ever. Okay ever. I thought I would you're gonna go a different direction
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No, I should have known why would you so Alex Jones is talking?
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He said they're like a Native American trusting a white person. Don't do it the part that I'm gonna I
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Wanted to take out of that quote is the thing about black people being weeds that he's quoting Margaret Sanger on saying why yeah
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But okay, so this is interesting. Is it is it in the minutes? Well, see there's a quote that's attributed to her from
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1922 they went around in a meme
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That says well then it must be true slobs Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds a dead weight of human waste black soldiers and
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Jews are a menace to the race
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That's an aggressive quote. Yeah
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So on Snopes they got into it and they did a bit of research into finding out what the truth of this was
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And so here I'll just read from their their breakdown. Was it just the word? No
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400 O's and an exclamation point tracing the origins of the quote above proved difficult as many primary
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iterations of it have since been deleted from the web though some are cached the earliest versions we were able to locate did didn't appear
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until sometime between 2008 and 2009 right when we're talking about
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Primarily on blogs and message boards all of these initial iterations cited a now deleted page on a crisis pregnancy centers website
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A cache of which can be viewed here and they link to the page was titled racist and eugenicist
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Statements by Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood and that iteration of the quotes suggested via the creative use of bracketed paraphrasing
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Sangers words had been somewhat creatively interpreted. Ah, so what did she write him in French?
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What they did what they had from the website is this quote?
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Slavs Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds a dead weight of human waste black soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race
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Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need we must prevent multiplication of this bad stock and then it quotes Margaret Sanger April
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1933 birth control review if she ran as a Republican she would win the publication birth control review is available online
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And they looked through it that quote doesn't exist in any way where the citation comes from of course not
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So this is just a meme Alex is just referencing something that was quoted on message boards
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He he said he's pretending that he did deep research into this and it's it's it's nonsense
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He's just believing a hoax
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Well, I mean even then if it is if it is in the minutes like say that it's true, right?
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This was in the minutes Margaret Sanger said it and it was written down, right? They're talking about this in
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2008 yeah, if I was running Planned Parenthood in
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Save the 60s, uh-huh, and I were looking through Margaret Sanger our inspiration for existing notes and I saw that I'd be like
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Nah, we're gonna leave that shit out, right? So somehow that's that's supposing then that somebody had a copy of these minutes and
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Pass them down
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Hand to hand to get to 2008. Yeah, that's what we're really saying right here
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That's is that this is an oral history of bullshit
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It sounds it sounds wild but I mean, let's let's not be super unfair
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Margaret Sanger was into eugenics
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But she wasn't who is it? But from all her writings. She doesn't seem to be a racial eugenics person, right?
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She seems to be a what if we kill all the dumb people? Well, yeah, unfortunately
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Unfortunately some of that but that was a prevailing theory in the 20s
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Right, it's not it's not good and it's certainly something that we hopefully all should have moved past at this point
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But any eugenics in the 20s was inextricably tied to race regardless of
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Whatever it was dressed like likely. Yeah likely
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But the argument that Alex makes about the Planned Parenthood having eugenics racial eugenics roots
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It just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Yeah, that isn't accurate. Anyway, no
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Look, here's the thing about that. All right
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No matter how good a person you are
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Immediately after the election there was probably a point where you were like what if we did just get rid of dumb people
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Now that's technically eugenics. It's a dangerous press. It's an awful thing to think and you immediately go
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Well, that's a bad idea. But at the same time the thought is there Jordan
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I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's not as interesting as I thought when I was cutting clips
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yeah, and all it is is Alex Jones saying that all Nazis are either feds or actually Jewish and just
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Trying to cause trouble. There we go. So we'll leave this I want to get into that. No, you don't
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Okay, leave it alone cuz he said it before in the past
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I was just trying to trace that like that's something believed for years. I wonder if he says that now. Oh, yeah
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He does that's crazy. Yeah. But anyway, the reason I'm skipping it is because I need to get to this next clip
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This makes me so friends are Nazis. This makes me so happy Jordan. Yeah this
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to a T is why there's still despite everything I know about him a horrible man
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He is in 2018. You still kind of love there is a part of me that there I I want it
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I want there to be a way he can be saved you're rooting for the redemption narrative. It's impossible
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No, of course, but back in 2008, it might have been possible and I know it from this clip put your mic down
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Okay, this tells me and charms me to no end. Okay, I
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Was a highwayman along the coach roads I did ride
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Sword and pistol by my side
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Oh my three
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Many a real out here many a soldier shed his life blood on my blade
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The bastards hung me in the spring of 25 wait for this moment that's coming. It's so good. Just still alive
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I was a sailor
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Chris Kristofferson, I wonder what he thinks about 9-eleven
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Oh
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And when the yards broke off they said that I got killed
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But I'm living still
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That's part right here
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First I got pause for a second
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Spoiler alert. He plays the whole song. But also we hear guitar when he just they're gonna air guitar when he just said best part
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Right here. That is exactly the point in the song where many times I've drunkenly said best part of the song coming up right here
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Wayland Jennings, I was a damn building across the river deep and wide
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We're stealing water didn't collide a
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Place called older on the wild
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I slipped and fell into the with
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They buried me in my street
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I'm still back live ladies and gentlemen
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We do have big guests today, by the way, I should have told you this at the start of the transmission
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Dr. Dina del
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It's coming up in the next segment. We'll see if he shows up this interview. I'm looking forward to that. I'll find a place
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Yeah, dr. Dina del coming up
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part three of
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Interviews we've been doing the Jeffrey Smith at noon
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About 40 minutes into the transmission from now
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And Bob Chapman today for a full hour. Oh
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Financials. Yeah. Oh, man. Can't wait to hear some Bob Chapman. Oh shit. He played the whole highwayman song. That's so awesome
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That's what so awesome. What an alternate reality real
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Radio show like him. I kind of like that. I swear to God if he was a radio DJ
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He just did that for a bunch of classic country songs, right? I'd find that okay
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Just talking over it a little bit
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Even if even if he occasionally threw in the razor and could become also by the way Planned Parenthood is full of racist monsters
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Anyways, and then he goes right back to song. I'd be like, oh that was a night
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That wasn't okay like he's but I love when you're doing Amarillo by morning and it's like this songs about the rodeo
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Amarillo by morning
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Up from Santa Fe Santa tone Santa tone
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Yeah, that's that's the stuff man where you see those flickers of like that's fun
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Yeah, and yeah, and it's even more surreal. That's a real laugh. He was genuinely happy. He was genuinely having fun
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The worst thing that ever happened to him is he got popular. Oh my god, we should go he got he's so thrilled
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Okay, he's so thrilled just to be like hey, there's Waylon Jennings versus the best part. Okay, so we just figured it out
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New way to interview Alex Jones. Don't even bother with asking him questions
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Don't bother with trying to gotcha clips. No, no played that stuff and be like, do you remember when you were happy?
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No, no, no pretend to be Waylon
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Well now I think he's dead but be that as it made that to me, okay, so then
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Or you could I mean that was good in the song you just say I'll always be around he will always be
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Um, I just can't get over it. I can't get over stuff like that
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Those are those reruns of the Dukes of havers hazard nose
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So you kind of you kind of get a sense of what what I'm talking about at the beginning of the show
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What I'm talking about the the present when he's just on this distraction bullshit. Yeah, I can go back to the past find stuff
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He's lying about we can have fun and then I can hear stuff like that. Yeah, no, he's
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He's a huge piece of shit, but that's charming. That's charming
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And you got to give him that and the surreality of him just talking about like, you know blacks are the real racist group
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Exterminate black people all black leaders are globalists. I was a highwayman
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Love it so much
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So in that at the end of that during Johnny Cash's verse
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There at the end about I'll fly a starship right lost the universe divide and if I reach the other side
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Dan, I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can. You know Alex Jones. Perhaps I'll become a highwayman again
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Or maybe I'll just be a single drop of rain
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That listening to you and that song and the way you feel about that song and then listening to Alex and the way he feels
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About that song very simply gives me such a like you guys are the Batman and the Joker kind of like yeah
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You're you're the same you're the same spectrum just two opposite ends of the pole. Mm-hmm. Yep, fantastic
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I am the I'm the darker brother you are
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I'm referencing a poem. No, I know
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But be that as it may in the context of the racist playing Parenthood stuff pretty funny though
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That was I mean to be fair spoiler alert
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That's one of my old karaoke jams also love love getting up there and singing singing that highwayman
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Anyway at the end there Alex is saying that we got some big interviews coming up. We got Bob Chapman
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Oh, I was listening to that song. I was like when is Jon Bon Jovi's verse? You know what I'm saying?
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There you he would have made that song great. How dare you he says at the end. He's got a big interviews
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We've got Bob Chapman also known as the guy who said that Reagan got butt-fucked
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And that we're not gonna listen to much of him. He also has a guy named. He's not he's not on the butt-fuck bullshit
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I want to talk about the economy Oh bullshit, and he gets usurped by something else
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Which we will talk about at the end of the show
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He also has an interview with a guy named Jeffrey Smith who just wants to talk about
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GMOs a whole bunch right we'll get to that in a little bit, but therefore he does he has an interview with dr
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Dean Adele Dean Adele or something. I'm sure I'm not sure who this doctor is entirely
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I know he has a radio show. Oh, it's a guy. Yeah, I haven't looked into him too much
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I don't I don't really care to all that much because
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In the same way that Alex singing the entire song of highwayman was endearing and delightful
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This is not no it's amazing okay in
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2008 Alex Jones was still in a place where he would invite people onto his show who would just own him
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Dr.. Dell Adele. I don't know Dean whatever Deena
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he just
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Keeps smacking the shit out of our really in this first clip
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I want to hear this so bad in the first clip Alex tries to get into vaccines with with him and the response
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Should have led Alex to a more intellectual study of the things he talked about
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Nah nah nah nah nah nah dude fuck that
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We know from history that Alex Jones just ignores everything that he hears from this literal real doctor as opposed to his chiropractor friend
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Point is the point that really isn't the art don't you care whether thimerosal causes diseases or not?
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So at this point Alex is making the argument that thimerosal is the chemical that's being tainting in vaccines
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Yes, he has since I think changed it a little bit. I'm not sure what the chemical he argues for now right marisol, right? You?
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Gotta care about that first. You've got to show me evidence. Okay, okay, okay, okay?
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Chronicle here it is health officials admit vaccines may have hurt, Georgia girl
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Federal blue ribbon
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Panel this is just a February
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25th this is just last month
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Found and ruled in her favor. This is a blue ribbon panel, but you got to keep reading where it says
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This does not imply the vaccine to cause autism this young child if indeed. This is not a court of law by the way
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He's making reference to something that we've gone over yeah, the vaccine court is not a court of law
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Yeah, there's different standards of what you have to pray right?
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That one case out of millions and millions and millions and millions this child has the genetic defect
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That's very unusual a mitochondrial DNA defect in combination with something having to do with vaccines
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Not by marisol read it carefully may have played a role in the single case when an airplane goes down. Do you stop flying?
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No, but okay, so we got to grow up here
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It's a little bit off the face of the earth smallpox off the face of the earth
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Where is the theory of whooping cough tetanus?
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Where are these diseases you don't take that technology because there is some flaw, and it's not absolutely perfect
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You drive your car if you love it, and you're willing to take a one in 2,500 risk of killing yourself this year
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Americans have got to grow up and understand that
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Technology is not perfect. You have to be willing to sacrifice. Let me stop you. Let me stop you
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They're actually and if you'd like actually about 50 of them here in front of me
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So he goes on to say like you can't you know you it's fun for you to just go up there and say you know
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There aren't studies. I have 50 of them here like sure sure
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Then he goes on to my favorite part my favorite part was just no no not that just the first thing
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He said was you have to keep reading Alex right that was immediately like ah you won you won
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I mean it's easily you want to be fair. It's a point. We make a lot
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I know, but but to say it to his face. It's pretty impressive so good so good
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So at that point Alex Jones starts yelling about like there's so much autism in the world
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And why are so why are the numbers going up so much me? I mean he's
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Manipulatively using right autism numbers and again we've gone over this over and over and over again the numbers don't reflect reality
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Necessarily because again read neuro tribes. It's a great book well
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I'm not sure if this is the argument that's being made in that but you know if you want to talk about a less evolved
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Time in our history we didn't understand various parts of the spectrum, and we don't understand how to
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Diagnose properly there are a lot of people who were autistic who weren't presenting it in the same way that isn't it crazy how autism
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Diagnoses have rised and yet hysteria diagnoses have fallen interesting isn't it strange how many different diseases?
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Have have disappeared almost entirely well
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But it's the same it's it's the same thing that you can make these stupid arguments about like I'm sure what he would do
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I think he probably believes this this idea of like the feminization of society rather than all this and like why are there so many trans
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People here now there weren't before right and what he's not taking into account is how many people were trans before?
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But either killed themselves or never were comfortable sure yeah
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We're never comfortable living in public you know that sort of thing those sorts of things can't be captured by statistics
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But they are a part of life
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Yeah, and that's the way he manipulatively uses these statistics and what-have-you anyway at this um a mr.
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And mrs.. Smith. I'm afraid your child has been diagnosed with
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douchebaggery
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That's well. No. It's mr.. And mrs.. Jones
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David Jones my dad. Hope he never dies
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in this next clip Alex Jones
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Because dr. Dean Adele is saying like a you've got it
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Did you say Dean Adele? I because I keep hearing Dean Adele. I do too, and that's a
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Delightful name, but it's not his name the problem is I didn't look into it. Dean Adele. Dean Adele!
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I did of all the things I look into one of them wasn't who is this doctor?
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I just didn't have time anyway Alex at this point tries to go into like just you know hey
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Here's here's a story. I can tell you yeah, and like this will prove my point
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I was in a hot tub more or less with three different guys
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What is doing it doc how come there's just suddenly all these autistic kids everywhere right right, but don't because it's increased
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Doesn't mean but did the tooth fairy do this
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But the tooth fairy do what increase autism. I mean I'm at no because don't you want to but listen
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I want to find out why and what's going on to waste. I don't even need scientific studies. I've talked to
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And I've got him by the way. I mean I'll be at a shopping mall. I'll be on vacation
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There's a lady there at the pool. She's got an autistic son, and I walk over and I say when did this happen?
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Oh, he was 18 months old. Let me guess
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Convulsion that night she goes how do you know do you know me who were you he had a convulsion?
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After that and then and I saw let me guess the hospital tried to take your kids saying you shook them real quick
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We'll get to the doctor's response, but I just want to point out. This is a story
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He tells to present day. This is one of his favorite stories. It still goes on. Oh, yeah
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This is he uses this exact same
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Example this is like this is like one of those road hacks
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He's been doing the same same hour for 20 years, and it's the same as stand-up calendar
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It's like I was talking to this guy. Yeah, no you fucking work, man
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What why is it they get the shot sometimes have a convulsion in the hospital listen?
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This is a it's a common reasoning fallacy
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There are so many shots that are given to kids there is nothing can happen in a child
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That isn't a week or two after a shot or a week or two before the shot
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And it sure seems like there's a relationship
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It sure seems like it and if there is we need to find out
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But we're just wasting and spinning our wheels not getting to the bottom of autism by
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Constantly having to put down a theory that kind of came and it kind of went so let's move on
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Why is it the older fathers have autistic kids? Why is it that women have certain obstetrical problems?
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So then he just goes off into more his you know the patent bullshit that he always I love him
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Yeah, I have fallen in love with dr. Dean Adele
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You're gonna love him even more cuz in this next clip Alex tries to bring up fluoride no
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And oh he's gonna get fucked up on fluoride. This is really interesting the his response is
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like I love the way that
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the doctor is just like
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He's doing kind of what we like aspire to do if he's laughing. Yeah, well Alex come on
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Hey, he's treating him like a child. Yeah
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Exactly yeah, that's why it's really stinging the like grow up
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Yeah, we gotta grow up the logical fallacy once he once he laid that out. You're like ooh Alex. What do you got?
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Right that's all you got you made a noise. Yeah anyway on to fluoride
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Let's take sodium fluoride. I just said to you there in the break. Did you know that they take the
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whole waste
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From the aluminum and of course fertilizer manufacturer
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And then that's what they call fluoride that they then put in the water, and you said I've never heard that
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I'm gonna make sure you get email all the mainstream documentation and the head of epidemiology departments and FDA
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Investigators all saying FCC. I mean did you hear about the American Dental Association?
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The American Dental Association coming out a year and a half ago and saying don't give babies fluoride water
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Right because they're getting plenty of it
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They're getting plenty of it as it is you got to be very careful not just saying that they use waste material to make
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To produce fluoride I wouldn't be surprised, but the same token I can take water from your toilet after you flush
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I can reduce pure water, and you might say hey, I'm drinking sewage here
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No, you drink a pure water if the process manufactured it, but it's all
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I'm not sure what they use to make fluoride and there are people in America
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Too much fluoride you see the little white spots and on kids front teeth
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Rottles and that often comes that can come from fluoride well. We've got florosis well
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There's this big Harvard situation where the graduate doctor did the report about increased
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Really a type of bone cancer, but that's not a debate
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I've seen a bunch of mainline
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University studies from China to Japan to to England where it causes massive increases in that type of cancer and boys
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Now if they're massive increases you got to be careful with that in terms of implying cause and effect of it might seem so but
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Doubling tripling depending on the study. Yeah, well I doubt it. How's that?
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But excess amount listen there when you start doing studies here's something here's something the pharmaceutical companies do all the time
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Let's suppose I have a drug and I'm putting it on the market
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And I do eight studies in a row to find this drugs a piece of crap
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And it's causing side effects and killing people then the eighth and ninth study finds which we tweak the study right find out
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Hey, this is a great drug and doesn't cause side effects. What do you think is going to get published?
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So you gotta be very very careful in that you look at and this is what difficult the entire body of the literature
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There are people in today the membership is 650 who still believe the earth is flat
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But and they do their studies to produce it. I would not offer that as evidence
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I would not say it's a controversy when ninety nine point nine nine percent of scientists believe one thing
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Why is it in America we want to go because we love the underdog I guess we want to go with a point oh one
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percent dr. Dean dr.
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Dean you're doing what the big and that's just pushing it in the big governments and banks are doing
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Pushing for global carbon tax while ignoring all the real toxic waste and the rest of it
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They say every scientist agrees with man-made global warming when that's actually not the truth
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It's the opposite that is the vast majority believe. It's not man-made. It's the Sun cycle
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And so you're saying everybody. You know they all know that
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Put it to another way tell me the last time that you saw in the history of science
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I could fight know the few examples here when you saw that point one percent of scientists turn out to be right and
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If they turned out to be right by the way they proved their case
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But it isn't point one percent that believe whatever you want sodium film last time
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Tell me the last time the iconic class turned out to be right Wow oh
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Alex has no answer
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But you also notice there he moved the goal post was the last time an iconic class turned out to be I'm not sure but
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You you don't understand like he moved the goalpost there right talking about fluoride and all that right
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You're one of these guys who's pushing carbon tax. Yeah, well. Yeah, well. It's like all right
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How do we have a logical conversation when you just keep moving everything around right well, okay? That's a whole new conversation
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What the fuck yeah, man this guy is killing it
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Somebody who doesn't want to admit you're right they're gonna change the subject in the same way
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He's still rolling with it really well. He's rolling with the like Alex changing the conversation
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It's like well all right now. We're talking about so so then okay if you want to do that
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Let's talk about how dumb you are here the problem is that now
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Angles of dumb do you want me to describe you as do you want me to come at you over here cuz I got you
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You're actually stupid Alex. That's why you're losing Alex is a million-dollar operation now, man
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Yeah, you can't do stuff like this like get owned over and over again by a real doctor on his show
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It's pretty hilarious because at this point what he should have done if he was smart what he should have done is be like
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Get out get out go go that or he should have like we lost
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We lost our connection with his phone. He should have ran to end Rob do beat the shit out of him
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We like we just lost him. I don't know what happened Rob do curb stomped in the alley
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but like you the the reality is like
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He should have taken some of this to heart like okay
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These are really good points about why my reasoning is flawed
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Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna try and do better in the future. That's not how human beings work if I were him
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I would leave this show feeling like shit. I would leave being like I blew it. I blew it, but he doesn't nope
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And that's that but that's in countless study after study
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It is always like hey whenever people are shown to be wrong. They just double the fuck down and they get angry
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Yeah, that's that's what people do you want to believe in your own bullshit like it takes constant reflection and
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Constant vigilance to not get eaten up by your own bullshit. Yeah, self-criticism is very important. Yeah now. It'll get you killed
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It won't make you happy Alex is probably happier lying to himself than we are constantly evaluating yourself here when he's singing highway
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That's true. So are you yeah again?
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Batman to your Joker we get one more clip of the doctor and Alex having a little conversation about what have you and
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this one's good because
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Like this is really just him trying to lay out like
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Simplistic logical concepts. Oh, he's not gonna. He's not gonna. He's not gonna succeed in this front. Mm-hmm
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And and you know, I mean, I'm sure you know
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You're a medical doctor procedures University that a lot of our modern sciences were dominated by eugenicists up until you know
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30-something states had forced sterilization here and that then they went underground with crypto eugenics
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After World War two were you aware of that? Yeah, of course
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But I I kind of I kind of don't think it's helpful to take our past mistakes and condemn the future
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I agree with you
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These things have been horrible black marks on the history of science and like the horrible black
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Listen, you can say America is a horrible horrible country because of all the horrible things
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We did a look at our mistakes and go down all the things we've done internationally and with other countries than in war and violence
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And blah blah blah blah blah in our history, maybe don't love me blah blah blah that but every you know
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So I I think you gotta be very very careful when you raise these issues in terms of throwing the baby out with the bathwater
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Good, but I'm not saying the whole country is bad. I'm saying these mad scientists who literally I mean
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Watson at the human genome project at Cold Springs Harbor. He was there when it was eugenics. I read books
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Oh, no, you've got guys got terrible racist views. It's all of them. No, I'm telling you what now what don't say all of them
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That's okay. 95% of the captains of modern sense. Not all
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You said all I'm saying the vast majority of the captains
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Well, you know what?
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I mean 50 years ago almost everybody at the highest levels of science in this country in England in Germany was a raving racist
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Everybody knows that well, I think 50 years ago. Most people were
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but I grew up in America, you know, I'm a child of World War two and I would say we haven't we had and still have a
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problem with all this
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Yeah
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We have fine out of our year of doing this we have finally found a true hero on the Alex Jones show
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I'm this man is
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Everything I have ever wanted to be I'm going to take a step back because I don't know enough about him and there might be
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Some like really terrible shit that he's gone. I want to commit genocide
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No, but I mean he could which means he's on my team there. There could be some like
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Dark history of I have no idea and until I look into it. I'm not willing to
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Totally vouch for him. I want to live it Dan
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Fucking but don't bring this in don't bring reality into this. Do you know how how long?
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How hard I have wanted a true hero on our info or it's pretty wild. This is beautiful
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It's pretty this man is patient, right? He is kind funny. He is
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Enjoying himself and he is constantly slapping Alex down. Are you shitting me? Suck it
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I have just heard the man. I want my father to be now Jesus. That's all that's a lot
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But I mean in that last clip there what we saw him explain to Alex is what's known as a composition fallacy the idea that
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Individual is indicative of the character of the whole right and Alex is not really willing to it's not willing to do any of this
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Work, he's not willing to
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You know deal with the world reasonably and I love I love the idea of this guy just coming in and Alex could have gotten
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Rid of him at any point they were so fast multiple commercial breaks with him
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Well, but he had to he had to find a way
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he it was like it was like if you're bombing if you're bombing you still want to try and go out on a laugh like
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He wants to try and go out on a way that gotcha. Yeah, exactly never comes
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Of course not and he has no chance all while he was singing along to the highwayman and he Alex was doing his introductions
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He he made it he made it seem like let's see if he shows up. Yeah, that's sort of like get him
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Yeah, and then that is
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He just fucking and I don't want to I don't want to treat it like I don't like treating arguments as though there's a winner
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And a loser right like the whole point like when you and I argue about things. It's not about trying to win
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It's like I feel I feel I don't feel great. I
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Do I like to I like to learn I love being wrong like when you're wrong just like he was saying when the iconic
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I is right. I feel like the loser in our argument about whether the return to innocence was a good song
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yeah, well you you are but
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Mmm, but it like when he's what what he's talking about is when the iconoclast is right
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Science what he didn't get to finish as was science goes batshit and they love it
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Right everything changes right and everything changes and beautiful. That's the one thing about science
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That's amazing and to the point that he did make also is that
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When the iconoclast is right it's because they have proved yeah, exactly and you have an obligation to prove
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These things and then it's on you to you have the obligation to be like I'm wrong
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This guy proved it right that's the difference there. So that's why I don't like arguments as well win or lose thing
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I like whenever I'm wrong because then I get to learn a new thing like that's crazy
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It changes the way that I feel about this the it's the lose. Well Chris Gethard model of life the
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Like how many of our conversations have ended with me saying, you know what you're right and I've changed my opinion on
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Well on the show a bunch on the show, but I've ever scream at look
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In public, I will admit my failings the right of it
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I'll see you in hell scream at me about how I should love Kanye and what have you you should love
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Can I get into this in this next clip? So we're done with the doctor and now this guy named Jeffrey Smith comes on to the
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show
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Basically, all he's doing is talking about the evils of GMO. Yes and fair enough to some extent disagree
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Well, I don't think the GMOs are as dangerous as people like Alex make them out to be but the GMO companies the Monsanto's of
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The world are absolutely problems, right? And the idea well, the problem isn't GMO then the problem is unilateral
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Monopolies right and patenting genes and that sort of thing. All that stuff is those are those are issues. I
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would argue of capitalism
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They're not so much
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scientific problems now and this guy comes on and he has a laundry list of these specific examples of people who are
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Investigating GMOs that got screwed over and what-have-you and I don't believe any of them
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And I didn't have the time to research all of them. But one of them stuck out to me
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Okay, because it's an argument that Alex will continue to use up till present day
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This is another example of the genesis of one of his arguments against GMOs and I've done it was dr
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Dean Adele fucking with him while wearing a fake OT a fake voice and glasses. Yeah. Okay. No, it's not it's the Jeffrey Smith
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He lists out the GMOs are bad
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He he gives a specific example of someone who has been destroyed by the GMO lobby or what-have-you
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All right, and Margaret Sanger, nope
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Let's give another example
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Irina Urmakova, I interviewed her at the EU Parliament after we gave a presentation there
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She had documents. She had a piece of paper
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She came back to her office one day and a piece of paper was burnt on her desk kind of as a warning
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Some of her samples had been stolen. That's a pocketful
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She was told by her her director to no longer do research on genetically engineered foods
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She was attacked
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viciously in a published peer-reviewed journal that had lied to her telling her that she was going to be
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Authoring an article about her research and it turns out they just wanted to set her up
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So what was her crime?
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Well, her crime was discovering that rats were fed that were fed genetically engineered soybeans
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That the offspring died at more than 50% compared to the offspring of rats that were fed
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Regular soy and only died at about 10%
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She also found that the size of the offspring when the mothers were fed GM
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Soy was much smaller and they couldn't reproduce
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so this what her crime was simply feeding rats genetically engineered soy that we eat every day and
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Discovering death and problems in the offspring
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so this has now been
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Absorbed by Alex Jones as a piece of his narrative about what the globalists want to do to us in the he uses it to say
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studies have shown the GMO people rats who eat GMO die much sooner and are unable to reproduce and
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They are smaller
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than
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Normal rats and that's what the globalists want to do to you to which I say
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Okay, he says after three generations that people are rats eating GMO foods
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Are unable to reproduce that doesn't make sense nor is it?
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Reasonable no, and I looked into this a little bit. It's simply not how
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It's not possible for that to be a legitimate conclusion of your article or of your study
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that means that there are so many other variables that you have absolutely not taken into account like if you do a
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Regression analysis of her study and then any other studies you would find out that it hers is an anomaly and she's full of shit
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Well, actually they're a bunch of critics or you would find out that they're lying about her
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well a bunch of people, you know scientists got together and
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Critiqued her study looked into it and saw if there were any issues. Yeah, because she refused to peer-review it
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She's well, then fuck her she can go fucking fuckers. She just went around
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spouting these the findings arena Urmakova
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Emma Kova not Urmakova. So there was an article in natural biotechnology
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Where they tried to get to the bottom of a number of her claims and I've read natural
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Biotechnology technology so it goes I I got a it's at my dentist's office every you know how popular natural
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Biotechnology is very you can't avoid every time I go to Walgreens. I'm trying to buy cigarettes
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natural biotechnology
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everywhere it
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is the most famous
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Magazine I can think of there's no magazine
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more noticeable frankly, it's fucking
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Inescapable how popular natural biotechnics is keep going. Anyways continue. Oh, yeah, where are we going with?
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You got more. I just want I just wanted to say that the thing I read most more than any book more than any news
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Source, like have you ever read Google News on?
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every option
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Natural biotechnology shows up. There's always an article out. It's gonna play some Candy Crush
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Time I can't even have like the Guardian references natural biotechnology the Atlantic
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Politico I got unlimited BBC News who knows exciting who's gonna reference natural
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Okay, I think I've gone as far as I can go so they interviewed her about her findings in the study and so they asked her
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What was the level of more I read that interview?
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They asked her
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What was the level of mortality of the pups you found in the control and test groups her answer in the first three repeats of?
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The experiments up till five times higher mortality was observed in the newly born pups whose mothers had received the GM soy flour
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Supplementation compared with pups from rats receiving GM
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Soy protein isolate traditional soy and laboratory chow which were the control groups pups from rats that had been fed a GM
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Soy diet died mostly during the three weeks following birth blah blah blah she goes on to
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Give give a couple examples, and there's also tables provided
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Yeah
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So the critics looking over this and trying they looked over all the tables all the information
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And they here was the assess this is groundbreaking stuff. It's true right and here's the assessment that they came away with quote
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pup mortality is usually reported at day 0 or day 1 and day 21 the timing and causes of deaths are not reported the
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Data in tables 1 & 2 which she provided show that 8.1% of pups died in the control group the typical mean pups
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Survival observed for with star rats is greater than 99% plus or minus 2 at day 1 and 99.5%
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Plus minus 1 at day 21 the abnormally high incidence of pup mortality in the controls
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Indicates poor animal stewardship possibly arising from poor animal husbandry and or dietary deficiencies
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No valid scientific conclusions can be based on a study with such poor performance in the control group
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Table 1 also reports 10% mortality on conventional soy
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No conclusions should be drawn from a study in which the conventional soy control mortality is tenfold higher than normally observed for with star
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Rats okay, so that's the first problem so her her
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Like the first criticism of this study is you killed rats who don't die
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Right right or you whatever the case is whatever the conditions were right you had
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Substantially higher death rates than any in the control group which gives a shit about the baseline of your control group is
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Unacceptable for science based on every other control group that if there's a thousand other control groups with 99%
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99%
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Survival rates and you have 80
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You're the one who's wrong before we begin right so then they asked her about the the claims that she was making about the weight
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of the
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GMO ones being lower weight yes
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And then so she found that the weights of pups from others fed GM
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Soy supplement were lower than those of pups from rats of the positive control group or from the conventional soy flower
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Supplemented group you found that 33% of pups and the rats fed GM. Soy had smaller sizes and lower weights than the controls
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so the critics said
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animal weights are normally recorded for individual animals in a litter and then
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Averaged as mean for females and mean for males to account for gender differences table 3 does not he does not
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Separate the two table for walking stupid table 3 does not segregate animals by gender
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I real the likelihood of males being approximately 2 to 3 percent larger than females at this age more importantly under carefully controlled
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conditions 14-day pup weight is
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approximately 38 grams plus or minus 3 grams will vary by no more than plus or minus 10 percent the data in table 3 are
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Presented in an unconventional manner that makes it difficult to determine the exact mean and standard area derivation among groups
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Table 3 states that 53% of control pups are below 30 grams which is abnormally small for two-week-old
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Wistar rat pups more than 90% of rat pups fed conventional soy are more than 20% below normal weight GM
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Soy 79% below normal weight and GM
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Soy protein isolate fed pups 78% below normal weight fared somewhat better
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The the wide variance in data in table 3 and the high percentage of low weight animals are clear indicators of malnutrition
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Well-nutrition and or poor environmental conditions. No conclusion can be made about abnormal development unless the control controls conform to
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internationally observed norms
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Do you know why there's no greater?
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Own than a science own because it's because it's on
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Equivocal right like any anytime you see a spat in a scientific journal where so many people are like
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Okay, here's why you're wrong. It's always the most thorough
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specific
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Examination line by line of why everything you did was wrong
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And there's no way where if you even try and come back with it. You're just gonna be like, yeah
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Well, I saw the Sun that day like you've got nothing. Well, they're basically just saying like, okay
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This is why your process was wrong
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And so you should probably redo it because you didn't follow right the standards that would get rid of different
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Variables that could be affecting the outcome exactly
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So in Japan a bunch of people got together and they did a study in 2007, which is the same kind of peer-reviewed it
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yeah, and
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This is 2007. So Alex should know this and Jeffrey Smith his guest should know this
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You think this is in the scholarship at the time that he's going on Alex Jones's show and touting this as an example of groundbreaking
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Studies, he doesn't know about this. They didn't just do a short-term study like she did
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They did a 52 week study
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They did an entire year what and they follow that kind of time in Japan and they followed the guidelines of
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Control groups and standardization right and I won't bore you with their entire findings
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But I'll just read the line number one that dumb lady is dumb
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um gross necropsy findings hematological and sera serum biochemical parameters organ weights of
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Pathological findings showed no meaningful difference between rats fed the GM and non GM soybeans
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This these results indicate that long-term intake of
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Genetically modified soybeans at a rate of 30% in a diet has no apparent adverse effects in rats. So
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Yeah, cuz duh, so his guests should fucking know that yeah, but that's not like I'm not gonna put it on his guest
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I mean, he's a propagandist. But yes, I mean, I mean the
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Non-use of that knowledge cuz it's not like he's alone or unique in that
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You know like his guest is doing what those assholes do his guest is someone whose business it is to know about
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GMO issues his guest is coming on to discuss these GM issues
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His guest is somebody whose business it is to lie about GMOs
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That's more the point like but that's but that's like that's like any kind of you're running game
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Look, no, it's not man. You're conning. The difference is I'm I'm I'm
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Responding to what I expect
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Alright, I expect standards. You're you're expecting an idealistic viewpoint
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That will never come to pass and these liars are always gonna exist and what we need to do is kill all the dumb people
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Eugenics forever. No, that's not the argument. I'm a wait. What isn't that? What? No, that's not what you were saying
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No, the art the argument that I'm making is that even dating back to 2008?
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It's very clear that the guests that he has on with the exception of dr. Dean Adele, who is my new father
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His guests are still propagandists. Yeah, there's still people who are coming on with an agenda that doesn't match reality
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Right, and that's it
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I mean that's interesting to me because one of the most important things I think with going back into the past
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I already told you
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At this point, I don't care
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There's things I want you was it because of the was it because of the
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Natural biotechnics riff. No, that one. No. No, are you sure it wasn't?
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Someone on the chat room just asked our Dan and Jordan friends outside of the podcast
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That's a good question
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We'll see we'll see if we go get a drink after the show
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So George spend 90% of our time together. I'd hope we're friends at this point. So it
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at
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This point in history 2008 Alex Jones as far as I can tell isn't selling young Jevity even yet
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Yeah, he hasn't gotten into the game that he plays now with how about the pants? How about the random pants?
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I didn't hear a diamond gusset commercial on this episode, but we'll see I will keep you posted disappointing
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but
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He started selling some supplements, but he's not selling them. He's advertising for them
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So okay a third they're not they're not his. Yeah, right
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Yeah
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I was actually about to say like what is he selling at this point in time that these con men would come on the ads
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Are shockingly all for his documentaries?
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He has ads for loose change ads for endgame and stuff like that
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Right, most of the commercials are about his $25 for a postcard that'll get you out of jail
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Well, I can just like soap, you know, hope is good
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but the commercials that he plays because these aren't episodes with the
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The commercials cut out most of them are kind of like this is local radio commercials
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you know, I think I
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We've seen his contract in present day and we know like the breakdown of time that he gets for right stuff
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I think it's possible that back then he didn't have
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Much time and so a lot of these commercials that are on there are for like GCN affiliates or something like that
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Yeah, so like Genesis communications has a soap
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A person who is an advertiser and just like fucking throw it on Alex, right?
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Cuz he's not getting massive ratings in 2008. Uh-huh. He's big, but he's not huge
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So anyway, the reason I brought up the supplement thing is he says something on this episode that is particularly weird
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Considering what we know about the future. Okay, aloe's colon and body cleanse. They don't make any extraordinary claims
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It just cleans out your guts and is a detoxifier and it's very important
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It doesn't make you sprout wings and fly around or live forever. I want to be clear
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I'm not like the other supplement pitchers and I don't want to be associated with that. Okay, this is just good stuff
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Just good stuff. It's just good stuff. He does not want to be associated with his future self. Uh, yeah, I'm confused
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Well, it means like we're not making any wild claims
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He sells DNA for us that he says we'll keep your DNA telomeres together in order to make you live longer now
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Well, yeah, so I mean that's just truth right science fair enough. You've heard about the telomeres. I have it is a real thing
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No, no, I know. I'm specifically because that's the ends of your DNA that as you age they continue to degrade
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Yeah, no, no, I get what he's saying. Mm-hmm. But at the same time he's also right
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It's just it's just ironic to me that Alex in 2008 is like I don't want to be associated with those weird
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If you only knew buddy
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So at the end of the episode Bob Chapman comes on and he's talking a bunch about the economy and how things are bad
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Now we know from history. Yeah that things did get pretty bad. This is 2008. Yes, so
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things got bad in this
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Come on, come on in this case, you know, it's standard operating procedure for
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Alex Jones and his guests to say
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Your house is on fire shits about to go down. Yeah, but in this case they accidentally were right
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Just because they say it all the time, right? But Bob Chapman is on and I don't care about what he's saying because it's it's
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You know, it's difficult to parse out like where are we in 2008 March? We're in March
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Okay, so this is pretty much immediately after the massive stimulus package has gone through as I understand. Yeah
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But the issue is that I don't I don't really care because something more important happens
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Yeah in the middle of this segment where they're talking about the economy being bad and all that Berlin Wall fell down. Yes
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No, Alex does this that the timeline Alex does this?
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Okay, Steve. Thank you for the call
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We're gonna come back in the final segment with Bob Chapman and we're going to take two or three quick final calls
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But now I want to bring Ted Anderson up
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Okay, every economic expert we have on and then these are all top guys have the New York Business School
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The head of shadow stats and Nobel Prize winners all of them are saying metals metals metals
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Silver gold palladium platinum. I think you should be diversified if you've got more money than just you know
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For a few colonia and into some of the mining stocks
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I'm not gonna advise them, you know, if you want more risk like Bob was saying maybe he'll give us some advice
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I know it's in the forecaster. I just support the network that for 12 years
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Has been owned by a little gold company Ted Anderson little
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Little old Bob I know for more than a decade and we're gonna bring Ted up just for a minute or two Ted real fast
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You've got offers again that you shut the price of this at gold at 1,000 gold. They're going between
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1005 and 1013 today. They're trying to suppress it. It's not working
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And I know I just got a little bit more gold from you, you know
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I don't have a lot of money, but I buy a little here little there builds up
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Tell folks about the offer you've got today. Of course Alex right now
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We have the British sovereign coin. It's a real good coin from it's a great coin
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So that's a disgraceful ad pivot. But like yeah, that one is nowhere near as professional as the shit we say
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Well, I don't know. It's nowhere near as jarring. It's I guess it's like a regular
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but
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Because of what we know about Alex and his business model and how he behaves now
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We know that what he does is he tries to create an emotional response and people
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Right through some narrative and then pivots to an ad as I like this is what will make you feel better that kind of thing
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Yeah, and so having a whole segment with Bob Chapman talking about the economy and it being you know
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There's trouble and all that and then Ted Anderson swooping in while Alex is vouching for all this idea of like
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Everyone's saying metals metals metals. Yep. All that is surprise
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We have somebody who sells gold here who woulda guessed and also owns oil wells. Yeah, then doesn't talk about that much that might be
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Important in the future. Here's a bigger question. Uh-huh does Alex hoard gold
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Says he buys a little here a little there
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Yeah
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But I mean now I have to ask if Alex how much gold does Alex have if Alex doesn't get a discount
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He's not buying from Midas resources because I've done a bunch of research into their markups and stuff like that people
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Like if can they've constantly taken them to court and so like there's a reason beyond
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What actually ended up getting Ted and Ted Anderson's bouillon license stripped?
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Like he got he got taken to court a number of times because people were suing him for over pricing
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Yeah, you go to the ripoff report
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There's a you know complaints filed there the Better Business Bureau is a bunch of complaints and the Better Business Bureau is a lie
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They're a scam. I'm not joking. It's the scam the globalist look no
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No, the BBB is actually a scam look into it. The BBB is a scam
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Well, I would also say that Midas resources is a scam and I would now look into it
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I agree with you on that front
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I am just saying that separate from the BBB or separate from the GCN situation
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Yeah
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The BBB is also a scam I'm working on a large piece about Midas resources and what have you through some
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Some documents that I found
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From they got FOIA'd and there's there's some court documents
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Yeah, that are pretty interesting about Ted Anderson's past and the business model of Midas resources
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And we'll get into that which is hey, hey, hey, fuck bitches every day more or less. Yeah
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Well, that's his operating procedure, right? Right. So we have one more clip here and this is what ends up happening with Ted's appearance
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Oh, and there's a lot more people too Bob and we're talking about the same supply that's finite
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You're talking about walking Liberty halves and they stopped making those in the in the 1940. Yeah, let's be clear
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The the the supply is already running out of a lot of this by running out
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The price is exploding getting the other spot is running out. He's got great deals on gold silver
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800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7. I love doing this. I love plugging something. I believe in I love plugging something
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It's a good deal. Do you hurt the New World Order folks when you move out of dollars the whole world's moving out
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Boy, they don't take dollars. That's our boy right there. They don't take them in in in Brazil. They don't take them
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Dumping it everywhere 800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7. They don't 800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7
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Get silver get gold 800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7. Don't wait 1 800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7
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It's only going up
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Thank you Ted. Yeah, thanks for having me up our final second with Bob Chapman the international forecaster calm
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Thanks for thanks for having me on Alex the guy who I own yeah exactly thank you so much for bringing me on
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Contractually like you have to do all the time
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so this kind of brings us full circle to the beginning of things and that is
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Is 10 years ago and today Alex Jones in both iterations is an incredibly desperate man
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He's a desperate man right now to provide cover and distraction for something who knows exactly what?
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probably crimes probably regarding the investigation with Mueller and
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You go back to 2018 or to 2008 and he's not a star back then he's not big-time
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He's probably at this point broadcasting out of a very small studio. Yeah, he's not the the the glamour puss that he is now
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No, Roger Stone isn't involved. So we don't even care. He doesn't I mean, he doesn't get the the supplement stuff with dr
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Group going until like 2013. Yeah, and so at this point
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All he is all he's got is a gold shill. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He's desperate to appease Ted Anderson
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know I would say he's probably more desperate now
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I think he's just saying he's desperate in both cases. I'm not saying which one is more
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yeah, I was I mean, I think he's more obsequious now as opposed to being a
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an aggressive
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Apologist fair like I like okay
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Here's here's a question that you just raised up in my mind raise up. I'm Pablo
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so he is
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We we know he's desperately obfuscating and lying and distracting. Yes from the Mueller investigation
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But I think now I think it's possible. I think it's possible that it's not even that that's primarily motivating it
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Okay
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I think that there's a decent chance to some extent that what he's distracting from is how unimportant he is
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Compared to the okay
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Okay, I think that there's a part of it that it is ego driven or at least the man
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Well, of course, of course, it's it's Alex where we're gonna get to ego driven sooner early
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He's distracting from the fact that he's not as important as QAnon or a reddit board or 4chan or something like that
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Yeah that that could be part of it. Maybe it's not the whole thing, but I don't know
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I mean, I mean more in the general sense of like
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Alex doesn't actually know anything right like Alex can't have any kind of insider information on that except from Roger Stone
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His source and as we as we know Roger Stone isn't gonna tell him the truth. Why would he do that?
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He's living his best life. William Binney is one of his big sources. Yeah, he said that that was the memo, right?
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I mean so the only reason that he is working so hard is just because he's in the Trump camp
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Like that's really it right? No, I don't like is he's not like I don't think I don't think it's it
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I think it's a part of it. I think I think right there's a holistic thing going on
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Mm-hmm, and that's a part of it. The Trump camp is a part of it. The ego is a part of it
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I think that he recognizes on some subconscious level whether he's willing to admit it or not
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That most of his traffic spike that he experienced at the beginning of 2016 was due to all this
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Yeah, and he's worried about what disappeared. He's also worried about what might be uncovered
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And the connections that he had that might be implied because of it
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Yeah, and then I think there's probably even a fourth thing
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I think there's probably something that we don't even understand, you know
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There's probably something that that's hidden from sight a little bit right and who knows what that thing is. I
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Don't know. We can't speculate. We're not Alex Jones. I don't have fake sources
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But I know that it will come to bear eventually new plan. We fly to Austin
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We stand outside of Alex Jones's studio. Okay. All right
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Boom box over our heads right highway and highway man. I think that would lure him out
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I think it would I think it's possible. I think it would do it
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Yeah, maybe and then we just have a good old-fashioned sing-along with him
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Like let's let's not even fight war like peace like legitimately you and me are gonna have a sing-along
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With Alex Jones if he the highwayman if he and I then we'll stab him if he and I were at a bar
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Let's say like a rodeo a honky-tonk bar. Okay, and we didn't get into politics or anything like that
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There's a decent chance we could get along wouldn't you guys explode into each other the moment you touch like matter and antimatter?
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Like you're never wouldn't touch him
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Like if you guys if you guys ever got close and just touch fingers the like it would be a hundred percent energy explosion
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Right. No, I don't think so. Okay. First of all again, I wouldn't touch him but then
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a second I I don't what do you think he feels like when you touch I think he feels bad, but
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Like I would I want to I want to walk my statement back a little bit
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I don't think we get along now, but ten years ago ten years ago. You think you could chill?
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I think I think as long as we have like, you know how sometimes when you're with
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You know family or in-laws or whatever and you guys not talk about certain things
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Yeah, if we applied those same rules to race politics religion
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It's everything you're interested in everything but highwaymen. You could probably have a pretty good time, right?
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So, I don't know I'd be interested to find out. Yeah, well too bad. We don't have a time machine
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but we do have
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website that people can go to
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Glad that wasn't a spit take no wine
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People go to our website knowledge fight talk
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Depressed the world is equally important. Yeah, sure
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There's a lot of content up there a lot of absolutely research
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We're gonna be doing some shit. Excellent gonna be super fun
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But hey in the meantime Dan, I think it's I think it's your turn like who's who's getting you?
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I I mean, there's no there's no doubt in my mind about this is a hundred percent
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Trey Gowdy fuck Trey Gowdy go fucking fuck yourself
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