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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jarden.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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That's what we do, Dan, is there a hook to that?
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There is, there's a hook, and that is that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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Indeed, that is the hook.
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Also, just because we gotta say it up top.
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Gotta.
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This Saturday we will be live.
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You have to listen to this plug, or you won't get the rest of the show.
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You can turn it off now, but you won't get the rest of the show.
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And let me tell you, today, sit through this plug happily, because I got some fucked up stuff to play for you, that Alex Jones said deep in the past.
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That's how good we are at advertising.
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Guys, hold tight, we're gonna plug, just ignore this part.
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Please don't.
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And then you'll get to the, no no, don't worry about this plug, we gotta do it, but just ignore it.
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Just, this isn't for you.
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We'll be at the Playground Theater, January 20th at 1030pm, tickets still available?
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I don't know, they're going fast.
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You can get tickets at Playground Theater dot com slash knowledge dash fight, is that right?
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I think it might just be Playground dot com.
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You know what?
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The Playground dot com, who cares?
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Hell if I know.
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This, again, we're bad, we're bad at this.
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We'll tweet out the link.
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Anyway, we'll be live, it'll be a great time, we'll have a lot of fun.
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Still not entirely sure what episode of Alex Jones we'll be covering, that is still up in the air to a certain degree.
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Yeah, it's the playground theater dot com slash shows slash knowledge dash fight.
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Yes.
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That's a lot to get through, just go to the playground theater dot com and figure it out.
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Right.
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Sooner or later you'll be able to buy tickets.
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Novelty beverage today is, it's becoming pretty habitual at this point.
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Arnold Palmer.
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This time we're going with light, which is a third less calories.
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The zero calories, which we have been drinking a bit in the past.
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Apparently they have four different types, regular, one third less calories, two thirds less calories, zero calories.
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Dude, they also got a strawberry one too.
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Do they?
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Yeah, it's pretty good.
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How many calories?
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Tons, so much, it's a lot.
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Almost as many sugars as that one bullshit we drank that last time.
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No, not nearly that much, not a mystic level.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But something that's mystical in terms of their allure to me is-
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The rap hero mystical.
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No, he's not a hero.
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He is a horrible dude.
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I'm sorry, what?
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He went to prison for aggravated sexual assault.
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Okay, well then fuck mystical.
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Yeah, mystical.
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I take all of that back forever.
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It really gave a very different feel to that one line of his that was like, I came in with my dick in my hand, be cool.
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Yeah, no, that's-
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Not good.
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No, that's describing the crime you just committed.
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Exactly, but look, I'd like to give a shout out to our donors.
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No way to pivot out of that one.
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Jesus, Jordan, what the hell?
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I'm sorry, I'm tearing it down.
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I'd like to give a shout out to our new donators.
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What's up out there, Hannah?
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Thanks for becoming a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Hannah.
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We appreciate it.
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You should tell this to your sisters.
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Oh boy, I'd like to also give a shout out to-
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Hold on.
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I get it.
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To your sisters.
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Okay, I'd like to also say thank you very much and congratulations to a new globalist out there.
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Oh shit!
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What's up out there, John H.?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark!
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We really appreciate it so much, thank you.
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God, I, look, I don't, this isn't about money anymore.
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Right.
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I just want to have one episode where like ten different people decide to become globalists and we just play that forever.
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And then we just end the show.
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That would end up, it's nine seconds long.
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Yeah, I would be fine with that. I would be fine with that.
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We do appreciate it so much and in addition to, like as if I needed more work to do for this show,
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in addition to the live show that we're putting together, we're well on our way towards making that goal.
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Oh really?
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Yes, we are on pace to make the goal which will force us to start doing the documentary coverage.
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Guys, we did not believe in you.
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We appreciate it very much.
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Dan was, this was a bluff and you guys have called it.
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Thank you.
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If we reach our goal, which I believe we're 60% of the way to at this point,
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by February 1st we will begin breaking down Alex Jones' documentary, Endgame,
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which will be a disaster for my sanity and my sleep schedule.
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I'll be fine.
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My sanity, as I pronounce very weirdly.
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So, Jordan, today.
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Yes, today.
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On the broadcast.
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Alright, if you had the plug paused, now is the time to start it.
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Right. Today, Jordan, as we mentioned on the last show.
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Yes.
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We got together this weekend and tried to compile a list of potential things to cover for our live show,
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Saturday, Playground Theater, 10.30pm, January 20th, right?
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Yeah.
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So we came up with the list, included on that list was the day Ratzinger, the old pope, stepped down.
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Which seems like a great day.
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I think that would have been amazing.
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Yeah.
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Turns out, Alex Jones was on a week-long vacation when that happened.
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Motherfucker!
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And there was a guest host, so that episode doesn't work.
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Well, he was actually voting for the new pope.
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He was, I don't know if you knew this or not, Alex Jones is a cardinal in the Catholic Church.
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That could be it. That might have explained it.
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Yep.
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The other, another one was the leap year in 2012.
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Right.
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How's he going to play on his leap, on the leap year?
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Yeah.
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He might get weird about that, about the calendar and overages and shortages.
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That's the type of Alex Jones that we like to deal with.
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Absolutely.
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It's just the guy who's like, leap years are globalist plot!
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I'm in.
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Yeah.
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I'm in.
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Absolutely, that would be amazing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Unfortunately, I went back to that day and he's just saying, Ron Paul could still win.
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Hahahaha!
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He's in Louisiana broadcasting from a hotel room.
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It's terrible.
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That's great.
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It's an awful show.
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I'm a big fan.
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Very, very boring.
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Yeah.
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And so I went through a bunch of these possibilities and they're just nothing.
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They're no good.
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But one of them stuck out in my mind.
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That is like, this is going to be a good one.
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Yeah.
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Just not a live show.
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I listened to it and it turns out it is a good one, but we could not do this one live.
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Okay.
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And that is the day after Lavoie Finicum got shot by the police in that Oregon...
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Wait, was that the Oregon stand-off?
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The Oregon Wildlife Preserve.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
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Alright, alright, there we go.
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Because I knew Alex would be freaking out after that.
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You know what's a crazy coincidence?
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I have been bored at work, so I've just been listening to old dollops.
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I listened to that episode earlier today.
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It's a good episode.
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It's a good one.
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We probably won't get into the actual stand-off all that much.
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I wouldn't understand why we would.
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We have to deal with it slightly briefly just because they get super racist about it.
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Of course.
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But at the same time...
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How could you not get racist about a bunch of weird, false military white guys occupying
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a bird reserve?
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Right.
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Well, the way they get racist is really fascinating and I'm excited to talk about it, but what's
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more fascinating is Alex...
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I don't know what's going on, but he says a couple of things in this episode that are
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beyond the pale.
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I told you this before the show and I stand by it.
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You have to look at Alex Jones completely differently after you hear a couple of the
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things he says on this episode.
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This episode will give some context to some of the beliefs he has and where they come
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from and how stupid he is.
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So we will do that.
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We'll get into that.
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I believe Orca should run this planet.
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Climate change is good.
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Well, that's actually the episode.
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I mean...
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Yeah.
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Nailed it.
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All right, guys.
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Let's get out of here.
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Let's get it.
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Go.
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So what we're talking about today is at the beginning of the episode, Alex Jones is talking
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about how he doesn't want this to get hot.
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He doesn't want it to be a hot war, right?
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That's not...
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No, of course not.
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That's not what they're into.
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They're not into shooting.
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These people at this preserve are amateurs and it should not...
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There's probably feds and it shouldn't get into a violent war now.
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Let's not do that.
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I'm glad you qualified it with the now part.
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Well, he's into that.
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But then also what he ends up saying after it is incredibly telling about his mentality
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and his personal feeling about his place in the world.
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This is some weird stuff to start out with.
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The Mormons are literal birds.
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I have put the energy for 21 years of someone willing to die, ready to die, into an information
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war.
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But not that way.
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And I'm fully ready to be shut up, fully ready to be put in prison, fully ready to be killed,
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but when it happens, I'll do my best, if it happens, to have it be just like the archetype
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of the martyr.
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If he says Martin Luther King Jr. is killing everybody.
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Lower my hands and let Darth Vader cut me right in half, then I win.
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Then that death means something.
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Then that death is worth millions dying in a fight, but you have to build the consciousness.
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You have to build the system.
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You have to build the personality.
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You have to build the sacrifice and make the sacrifice great and make the sacrifice loved
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when it's destroyed.
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As they try to assassinate my character, as they try to kill my name, it's already a martyr
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level event, which humans admire at a deep primitive level.
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So from the jump, we're getting this idea.
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First of all, he's trying to take the shine off Lavoie a little bit.
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It'd be like, I'm the real martyr.
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Come on, fuck that guy.
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Why don't you guys understand that for 20 years, I've been building myself up as a martyr
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that no one will ever martyr.
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And I'm going to become a force ghost.
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Right, exactly.
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Why don't you guys get this?
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Right, right, right.
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Absolutely.
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I think that that's kind of, I mean, it's indicative of a real mental disorder.
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Yeah.
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I think there's a narcissism in there.
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Oh, you think?
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A little bit of one, but the way he's saying it isn't like his standard manic thing that
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he gets whenever he gets into these sort of hyper narcissistic bloviating sessions that
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he gets into.
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No, he believes this.
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Yeah.
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This is a hundred percent a real thing he believes.
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I think, and especially as what we're going to get into, I think this is him externalizing
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a little bit of stuff that he generally keeps inside.
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And one of them is that, don't you guys understand, I'm going to be the hero.
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When they take me down, I will be the hero.
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He's creating a stage for himself to be what he sees himself to be in his own mind.
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That's fascinating because that's a very interesting psychology.
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He wants to die for the cause, but like, hold on now.
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He's making up a cause.
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Not now.
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Right, right, right.
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No, no, no, no.
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I will.
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Hold on now though.
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And when the time comes, I'm going to make sure I cheat it so I look like a victim, which
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definitely is in line with all of his philosophies and what have you.
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So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into how he believes that the Bundy group has been
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infiltrated and there's feds and shit like that.
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And then says something that might be...
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The weird thing is I think he is right.
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He might be.
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I don't know.
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They all just got off.
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I don't know.
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But the way he's saying it is like it's crawling with feds and he's also saying that all those
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people who were dressed up like Uncle Sam and all that shit, they were feds trying to
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make those people look like assholes.
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All of the dildos?
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Feds.
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Feds.
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Feds.
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Feds sent in those dildos.
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Oh yeah.
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But the Cards Against Humanity guy, he did send in that giant thing of blues.
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He's a fed.
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No, he's just a merry trickster.
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So the Bundy group has been infiltrated and like I said, he says something at the middle
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to end of this clip that feels like code.
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The Bundys are not the operatives.
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You can listen to them, take one look at them.
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We know where they came from.
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They're good people.
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But they wouldn't have been the George Washingtons leading the fight.
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They would have been the guys in the trenches.
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They are not generals.
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Take them out.
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We don't need them.
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What he's saying, I mean.
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We don't need them.
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You take one good look at them, you know where they come from.
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They're good people.
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That's, they're white.
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Right, right, right.
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But then beyond that, the like, they're not generals.
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They're still trash.
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Well, no.
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They're white trash.
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But that's not even what he's saying.
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He's talking about, he's calling himself the general.
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Yeah, no, of course.
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Without having to say it.
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Oh, we all knew.
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He's treating them, even though they're ostensibly being way more active in the same goal that
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Alex has.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's saying, nah, nah, nah, nah, they're too dumb, they're whatever.
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I mean, can you really disagree with him?
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Not fully.
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Nope.
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He does have a point.
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They are not generals.
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They are not generals.
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No.
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So now, at this point, this is where we start.
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They aren't even in the military.
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No, certainly not.
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They were lying about that.
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No.
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Oh, yeah, that is true.
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They were.
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A lot of stolen valor.
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We're all Marines.
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Yeah.
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No, you're not.
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So at this point, Jordan, and this is pretty early in the episode, Alex Jones starts to
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take a pivot away from talking about the Bundy's specifically and starting to talk about his
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understanding of government.
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And Ted Bundy.
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No.
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Nope, doesn't get into them.
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Oh, okay.
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His understanding of government, his understanding of history and this stuff, it's fucking wild
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stuff.
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This is the first one where he talks about the intelligence community.
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There's different factions.
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There's at least seven factions we know of in the CIA.
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Three major factions in the NSA.
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Different administrations come in and try to create new factions or take over other
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ones.
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There's Army versus CIA.
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There's Navy versus Army.
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That's a football game.
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So it's a gang war?
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There's the Marine Corps, stand alone.
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Right.
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There's Defense Intelligence.
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Everybody's cool with the Marine Corps.
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He's describing departments.
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Everybody's cool with the Marine Corps.
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No, no, no.
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They're factions, Dan.
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Hold on.
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They're factions that are always at war with each other.
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Let the man finish the clip.
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There's the big mega banks above it trying to control and manipulate it all.
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Then there's international factions.
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It's not just, let's go have a war with the feds.
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Let's have it start here like the Alamo.
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So that's what he's saying.
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It's like there's these intelligence factions departments.
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Right.
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And then he expands it without being specific in any way or even what he's talking about.
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And then there are corporations.
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There's international factions.
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Right.
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Come on.
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Yeah.
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The CIA is also overseas.
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Who knows?
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Could be anywhere.
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No, that's a little weird.
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Is it?
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Yeah.
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Because I would say for someone in Alex Jones's position, it behooves him to be more specific
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about what he's talking about.
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If there's seven factions in the CIA, come out with it.
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What are you talking about?
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What possible?
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Okay.
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Look, you're in the CIA.
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There's factions.
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How could there be seven different factions?
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There aren't enough ideological differences.
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Probably not.
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In the CIA?
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What is it?
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What is it like?
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I want more BLTs in the lunchroom.
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Like what kind of factions are we talking about?
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There's not even enough primary colors for them to all have different colored neckerchiefs.
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That's true.
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For identification purposes.
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If you see the damn green neckerchief people and you're one of the orange, fuck them.
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Don't go over there.
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No, no, no, no.
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Do not set trip with the fucking factions of the CIA.
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They will fucking spy on you.
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Those guys are crazy.
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Exactly.
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We're not even into that shit.
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But we also know that there's only like 15% of them who do the killing.
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The rest of them are chicken necks.
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Right, right, right.
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So you wouldn't have to worry about set tripping around the chicken necks.
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Well, but every faction is led by one of the guys who does the killing.
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It has to be.
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I mean, mathematically, if it's 20%, who cares?
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Anyway.
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I think everybody does.
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This is the most important news of the day.
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Is it?
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No, it's not.
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Maybe so far.
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Okay.
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And not the day, the show, because it's the day, hoo boy.
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But this next clip is profoundly fucked up.
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Put your mic down for this, and oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
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You're about to get a history lesson, courtesy of Emmerich Jones.
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Let's have it start here like the Alamo.
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I just put that there so it's clear that there's no break.
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No break in the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Long pause.
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You know that they planned with President Andrew Jackson in 1835, a year out what they
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did in Texas.
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You know they sent Colonel Travis, this is inside baseball, but it's leaked out here
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and there, but this is confirmed, down to the Alamo to fight 10 to one odds to die,
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to create a chain reaction to give birth to Texas because they were hardcore folks.
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And they were Christians, but they basically followed a Rosicrucian founding father basic
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cult deal where they really wanted to found the new Atlantis, they really wanted to build
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a new civilization based on human empowerment, and they wanted to die in sacrifice against
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tyranny.
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They don't really make people like that anymore much, do they?
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And they went and they basically planned it and they knew it, and then Travis told the
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men, you're all gonna die, step across the line and join me in history, and they stepped
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across just like the 300.
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They planned with Andrew Jackson an event similar to that, they didn't know exactly
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how it would go down a year before, and then they found Travis, who'd already won some
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battles and was a born leader, to lead it, and he wrote on that letter to my family when
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he left his son with the Ayers family, my mom's side, and said, take care of my little
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boy.
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And then he wrote the other letter and said, I'm not giving up victory or death.
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And they hoped to get reinforcements, but they knew they weren't coming.
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And they knew where they were going, and they knew that they were coming to draw Santa Ana
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into the south so they could get ready in the east with the armies.
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With Sam Houston, under the direct command of President Andrew Jackson in a covert action
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of the United States of America to take a third of Mexico.
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That was a sovereign country.
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That's how you plan things, that's how you win, that's how you kick the British Empire's
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butt that nobody can stop.
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Real planning, real sacrifice, real long-term commitment.
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Not 10 guys in camo and three of them are, I mean.
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He's implying that at the end, three of them are feds.
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So Jordan, I want to ask you a couple questions.
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The first thing- Oh, I don't have any questions for what that,
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that was clearly self-explanatory.
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Everything about that makes perfect sense.
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Do you know anything about Colonel Travis, Colonel William Travis?
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I don't, but I'm of the opinion that anybody who winds up overrun by thousands of Mexican
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soldiers because he's bad at position, probably didn't do so well.
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Well, it's interesting that Alex is presenting this as this thing that's like a pincer move
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by Sam Houston and what have you, when Sam Houston said, hey, blow up the Alamo and get
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out of San Antonio.
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That was his order that was ignored.
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Planned.
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Planned ignoring.
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By Andrew Jackson.
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Right?
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Hickory.
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Andrew Jackson.
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Old Hickory.
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Not only that, Andrew Jackson planned to tell Houston to say that to Travis.
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So Travis would be like, fuck you, and do what he did.
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So covert action, action.
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At this point- Three factions of the CIA planned that.
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Seven of them.
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Yeah, but three of the four of them didn't even know.
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No, four were red shirted in the action.
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So Jordan, now I think is the most appropriate time ever to talk a little bit about Colonel
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William Travis.
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I've never heard that sentence before, so clearly it must be true.
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I'm going to give you a bit of a history lesson that researching tickled the shit out of me
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today.
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Okay.
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I initially thought there's no way I'm going to be able to get this episode together in
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time to do it, but I did, and this is a fun story.
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So William Travis was born in 1809 in South Carolina.
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He was born in South Carolina.
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We're off to a bad start.
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And then after the war of 1812, his parents moved to Conica County in Alabama, there's
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a lot of frontiersmanship- Let's go somewhere worse.
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Right.
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His uncle Alexander founded a school in Sparta, Alabama, which was a part of Conica County.
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And so William got the chance to attend it and he was able to get an education.
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He'd go on to be a school teacher, a teacher's assistant at a different school where he taught
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for less than a year because he got the hots for one of his 16 year old students.
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Not good.
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Not good.
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And they started fucking.
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Yeah.
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So they ended up getting married.
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This is Alabama.
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They ended up getting married when she was 16, likely because he got her pregnant.
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Naturally.
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And some timeframe records show that she probably gave birth before they were married, or at
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very least she was pregnant before the marriage.
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Right.
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And back then that was-
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Not good.
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That was not-
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Shotgun wedding.
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That was not done.
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Shotgun wedding.
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So at that point he decided, I'm not going to teach anymore.
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No.
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And so he and his wife moved and he just started, he moved to a place called the Clarebourn.
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Clarebourn?
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Clarebourn.
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Claybourn.
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Whew.
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That's a rough name.
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So he decided he was going to start studying law because back then that was really easy.
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True.
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They had four.
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As he was studying law he also started a newspaper called the Claybourn Herald, which did okay
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for a little while, made a little bit of coin.
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But then it started to not make as much money and he had like, you know, I got to support
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my family.
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I have no idea.
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I'm not making enough from this paper.
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And the stress of running the paper got so bad to him that he kept fucking up the paper.
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He would print advertisements upside down.
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He would-
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I never learned to read.
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He would have ads going way past their expiration date in the paper and it just was a complete
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disaster.
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And in an event that would go on to mirror his future, this is a sentence that I wrote
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that I'm thrilled with, in an event that would mirror his future at the Alamo, he would ask
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for help with the paper, but reinforcements were not coming.
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Oh, get out.
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But he did.
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Get out.
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He kept trying to get financial support and no one was helping him out and so he was just
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in a terrible place.
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In 1829, he passed his law exam, right?
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So at that point he borrows $55.37 to order-
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Ten and a half million dollars in today's money.
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Totally.
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To start a law office.
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He also borrows $90 to cover his expenses with the Herald, right?
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Right.
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Unfortunately, he wasn't getting any clients for his law firm because no one needed a lawyer.
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It was a small fucking town.
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It was a small fucking area and they already had a lawyer.
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Where would we even go to trial?
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There ain't judges here.
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They already had a lawyer who was the guy who mentored him.
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Yeah.
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And so like, we don't need another one.
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We already got this guy.
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And so he is just in a disastrous position where he has spent all this money, he's in
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debt and now he can't even make money doing law because no one cares.
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Right.
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So he's getting nothing.
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He's just getting deeper and deeper into debt.
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And so he decides to buy a couple slaves in order to-
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Boy, that just, it could solve a lot of problems back then, apparently.
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He buys two slaves in order to try and help out, right?
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I don't, what?
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But the irony of this is that feeding his slaves ended up pushing him deeper into debt.
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So-
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I mean, silver lining, silver lining.
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It's just a tragedy of like everybody, everybody is in tragedy.
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The wife is clearly not happy.
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She's, you know, living with this guy.
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Right.
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Whoever's buying ads in his paper isn't happy.
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They're printed upside down.
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Not good.
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This guy, William Travis, is not fucking having a great time.
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And of course his slaves are not having a great time.
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His mentor-
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The only person, yeah.
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He jumped out on his mentor and he tried to start a competing business.
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And his-
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So his mentor's pissed too.
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And now it's interesting that you bring that up because he ended up having to stop practicing
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law because he wasn't making any money.
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So-
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And he got a cease and desist.
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And by the time that he ended up-
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He signed a non-compete, which he realized immediately after he left was a very bad idea.
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By the time that he stopped practicing law, he had participated in six cases and he had
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made $4.
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All right.
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All right.
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His debt at the time was $834.
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Nice.
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Which is a lot back then.
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Yeah.
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So the people he owed money to sued him.
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And-
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Of course.
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And one of the people was his mentor, the lawyer that he studied under.
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And in court, he tried to argue that his case should be dismissed because of infancy.
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But he was a bad lawyer.
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He'd only ever tried four cases before.
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So he didn't do well.
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Yeah.
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He said that because he was so young, it should be thrown out of court.
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That makes sense.
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And the court and all-
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That's like saying I'm too pretty.
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Yeah.
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Somewhat.
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Everybody in attendance, everybody in the court just started laughing at him.
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It's recorded as like a historical humiliation in court.
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Just everybody like, ha, ha, ha.
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You still owe me money, you little baby.
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That shit.
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Perfect.
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So at that point, the court clerk issued an order for his arrest on March 31st, 1831.
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Right.
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So at this point, William-
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He hears about the Alamo.
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More or less.
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And he starts a little plan with Andrew Jackson.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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I feel like we're going to get there.
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He hears about Texas, which is at that point a state in the Mexican Republic.
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Let's go somewhere worse.
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So he heard there's a lot of land for speculation and that a lot of people out there needed
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lawyers.
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Sure.
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And so he's like, oh, fuck yeah.
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Do you speak Spanish?
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Fuck!
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And the other thing is he has an order for his arrest.
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So he's got to get out of Alabama.
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Yeah.
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But he'll figure that one out.
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He's a lawyer.
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And at this point, he leaves his wife, who is now pregnant with his second child.
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Of course.
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And runs off to Texas, fleeing arrest.
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This is-
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Dodging arrest.
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The dumbest dude.
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Yeah.
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It's rough.
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This is spectacular.
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So he gets to Texas and he sets up a law practice in a city called Anhuac.
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I'm not sure if that's the correct pronunciation or whatever, but at that point, he sets up
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a law practice.
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He starts a militia and they start agitating against the sovereign Mexican authorities.
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Why start a militia?
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You know what?
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Because they're white people around a lot of Mexicans.
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Always shooting for the stars.
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Absolutely.
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Always shooting for the stars.
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So through his actions and through his militia behaviors, he ends up getting arrested at
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one point and he ends up also being conscribed as a soldier and ordered to raise a company
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of men to support the situation in San Antonio, which was a situation that would end up being
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the Alamo.
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Right.
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Right?
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Travis considered, this is a quote here from an article on it, Travis considered disobeying
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his orders, writing to Henry Smith, then the governor.
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I am willing, nay anxious, to go to defense of Bexar, but sir, I'm unwilling to risk my
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reputation by going off into-
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I can't run this guy's reputation.
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I'm unwilling to risk my reputation by going off into the enemy's country with such little
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means, so few men and with them so badly equipped.
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This is from an article in Texas Monthly, quote, Travis had sulked in camp waiting for
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Smith's reply, which never came, eventually had no choice but to trudge on to San Antonio.
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He had no military experience, was until recently an unsuccessful lawyer and was now the lieutenant
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colonel in the Texas cavalry.
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It's so fucked up.
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This is, that is, of course Alex Jones's family knows him.
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That's the same shit that's Alex saying like, hey, I am going to be a hero.
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You look, I will go down to San Antonio, I will be your hero.
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You're getting ahead of it a little bit.
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But listen-
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You're getting the point, but you're a little ahead of it.
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Not yet.
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So-
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Not right now.
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Once we get to the end of this, the picture of proto Alex Jones will be complete.
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Alex Jones has very clearly based a lot of his personality on William Travis.
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There is no doubt about that.
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That makes sense.
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From being a completely see-through, bumbling, self-motivated prick.
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So at this point, he is accidentally a lieutenant colonel in the Texas cavalry, right?
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Who does not become one?
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So Travis and James Bowie are the two men who are supposed to be in charge of the companies
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that are at the Alamo.
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One in charge of soldiers, one in charge of volunteers.
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The other in charge of knives.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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But unfortunately, pretty quickly, Bowie gets sick.
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And for all intents and purposes, Travis, he ends up being in charge of all of the people
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at the Alamo.
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He's in charge of the entire force.
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Hilarious.
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So at the end of this, Travis ends up dying in what is a hopeless war, because he did
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only have like a hundred and something people there and Santa Ana had a giant force.
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But just 10 days before he died, he sent out the following letter.
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I'm just going to read you the letter that he wrote.
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Help!
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You're not far off.
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There are a number of letters that I've read of his also that predate this letter by like
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the weeks, a couple of weeks before it all goes down.
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Help?
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No, they're all just like, we need more people, send more armies.
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And then then like three days later, another letter like, hey, it's rude for me to ask
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twice.
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That sort of shit.
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They're asking for armies like crazy.
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He's like, I'll fucking sue you guys.
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Yeah.
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I will fucking sue you.
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You know, I'm a lawyer.
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I'm going to put out a full page ad in the, oh no.
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So by this point, it's upside down, 10 days before the end of everything, he ends up sending
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out this letter and it's at this point that he probably has to realize shit is not going
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to work out.
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Right.
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So here's another letter.
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Fellow citizens and compatriots, I am besieged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under
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Santa Ana.
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I sustained a continual bombardment and cannonade for 24 hours and have not lost a man.
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The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion.
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Otherwise the garrison is to be put to the sword.
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If the Ford is taken, I have answered the demand with a cannon shot and our flag still
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waves proudly from the walls.
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I shall never retreat or surrender.
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Bad move.
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Then I call on you in the name of Liberty of patriotism and everything dear to the American
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character to come to our aid with all dispatch.
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The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily and will no doubt increase to three or 4,000
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in four or five days.
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If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible and
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die like a soldier who never forgets what is due in his own honor and that of his country.
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And then in all caps, victory or death, William Barrett Travis.
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And so this letter goes out.
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I would not want to be in his company.
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This letter goes out and, uh, people get really fired up about it.
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And that's one of the big reasons why people have this is because of the like pretty well
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written letter there.
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So this fucking idiot, this bumbling moron, this Mr. McGoo, walking around through life,
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screwing up everything, writes a good letter and becomes a legend.
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Well now get this.
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So this is also from that Texas monthly article about him.
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They, uh, they got his diary and they were reading over it and there was one passage
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in it where he's setting out, this is like two years before he dies and he said, I love
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to my first man today who you are so close, you are shockingly close.
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So there's a passage in his diary where he says like, I was setting off for some city
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and it's the only time, like, you know, I had, there's so many bogs and shit I couldn't
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get through.
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It's the only time that I didn't follow through with my plan or whatever.
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It's a, it's along those lines.
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And so here's, I'm going to read to you from this Texas monthly article that should bring
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everything into focus.
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Okay.
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Otherwise, other than that thing, that short anecdote, the diary is simply a daily log
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of his law practice and personal expenses, a document by an obsessive counter.
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He lists his shirts and socks and he lists his sexual adventures.
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Someone named Susanna is recorded as his 59th conquest.
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He was then 24.
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Think about that in terms of Alex and his 150 women before he was 16 claims.
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Are we going to believe this asshole?
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I don't know.
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I don't buy it.
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I don't know.
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I don't even think he had that many shirts.
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It's boss.
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Let's start with that lie.
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So that brief underlined passage, the one about not turning back, uh, is the only moment
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of personal assessment in the entire document.
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There is in those words, Travis's unstated reproach of himself for letting nature dominate
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his intentions.
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He was a vain, moody man, idealistic and romantic.
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He worked hard by day and at night he gambled or consorted with prostitutes or sat alone
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reading Sir Walter Scott.
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He was brainy and ambitious and filled with passionate energy.
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He spent all his short life seeking out a stage upon which to play out his self appointed
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destiny.
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The only thing he understood about himself was that he would not turn back.
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He wanted to be a hero and a patriot and he became a hero and a patriot.
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He wrote his famous letter from the Alamo proclaiming his new role and the world listened.
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He had with a few strokes of a pen made his dreams real.
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He had invented himself and invented Texas as well.
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That's Alex Jones.
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That's a hundred percent Alex Jones.
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Why is it that the dumb run everything?
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Isn't that amazing?
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Why?
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How?
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Isn't that amazing?
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How does this asshole bumble up to legend?
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Well because of that great letter.
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He wrote a great letter and that was fucking it!
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The stakes were- God Dammit!
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The stakes were much lower back then.
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Well clearly.
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But then at the same time because of this weird sort of like the way we deal with military
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and stuff.
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And even Eastern cultures do too.
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Like this bravery in the face of death makes a legend out of a man and that sort of thing.
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No no no.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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rings so fucking true the idea that all his life he was seeking out a stage on
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which to play out his self-appointed destiny that's moody that's stupid
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that's Alex Jones's entire broadcast career it goes back to the first clip
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where he's like I'm building myself up as a martyr yeah he has his
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self-appointed destiny that he is forcing his audience to play out with
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him the only consolation we have from all of this is the knowledge that
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there's no way Alex could write a good letter that's true that's done yeah we
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don't have to worry about him becoming a legend because his words will will stay
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on it would just be it would just be words as shapes yeah I'm sure if William
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Travis had a broadcast show and you just actually got to listen to the dumb shit
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he says he would not have become a legend no he'd come in drunk yeah yeah
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yeah exactly talk about banging prostitutes and stuff I mean it's just
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fascinating to me when I when I started to look into his history I was like this
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unlocks so much about Alex and the fact that nowhere in the historical record is
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there any indication that this was a year-long plan of some Rosicrucian
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religious ceremony where they sacrificed themselves to create a new Atlantis that
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stuff is all bullshit that's all conspiracy bullshit that Alex has taken
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from unreputable sources and turned into part of his where would you get that I
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don't know whose idea was that we're actually gonna find out I think okay I
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think in a later clip but yeah let's just jump back into it because this next
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clip is even more fucked up if you thought that was fucked up how could it
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not be this one's real fun okay you see this is all different religious orders
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folks battling each other over what controls America and you've got the
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dark side Luciferian 1776 copycat group that ran the French Revolution Adam
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Weishaupt trying to create a false Illuminati or the light Liberty God and
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overtake it and George Washington wrote about this in at least nine different
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letters before he died probably poisoned we know they bled him to death because
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he was getting ready to lead a movement in the Masonic order to kick the devil
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worshipping Illuminati out of it that was trying to take it over I mean you
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want to know the big secrets folks this is it and it's there in history
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pieces where in there and given down through the lore boom lore right there
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right right fucking rare it's given down in lore Alex is basically believing oral
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tradition as literal history yeah he might as well believe everything that
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happened in the Iliad really happened I'm sure everything in the Odyssey
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really happened I imagine anything that the Burt Soloritza's of the Basque
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Country say and they tell down from history it's that's fucked up yeah and
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that should give everybody some sort of understanding of what he takes as now a
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source if I understand him correctly he just said that Washington president
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George Washington's poisoned was poisoned to death or at least bled to
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death by the Luciferian Illuminati squad trying to recreate the light the false
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light in order to overtake the real light item wise hop and the reason that
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they had to kill Washington was because Washington was leading the good
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Illuminati and he was gonna expose it to get rid of the Satan Satanists within
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the within the good Illuminati yeah so we've got three factions of Illuminati
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is what he's describing right there well there's seven it was a simpler time they
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didn't even they couldn't even count to seven back then no no certainly not they
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could only count to 1776 so if you get down to it when George Washington died
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he was 67 years old after being a fucking soldier in the 1700s that's an
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absurd age to live to and he had to live through so much shit there's no way his
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health was good there's no way he he had no business being alive at 67 quite
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frankly so on the afternoon of December 13 1799 after spending most of the day
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in the frigid December rain and snow supervising activities on his estate he
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was you know at this point one of the things you should know about George
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Washington hey slaves they're gonna love me like this Travis motherfucker so he
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was super Washington was super big on punctuality and never showed up late for
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dinner and because he was out in the rain and snow directing activities he
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showed up for dinner and he didn't have time to change his clothes so he sat
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through dinner in his wet clothes from the day also his wife Martha had just
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gotten over a really bad cold these are the circumstances surrounding his right
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on that day he began to complain about a cough and runny nose and by two in the
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morning of Eddie that night he developed chest pains and shortness of breath yeah
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so they call for James Craig dr. James Craig who was his doctor of 40 years
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that doesn't seem like some sort of info Johnny that's not a ringing endorsement
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either not if you're a doctor starting in what 1766 yeah not a good not a good
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time to get your learning at the same time George Rawlins who was the the
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overseer of the state the estate came to his bedside as morning came Washington
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had a pronounced fever and his breathing had gotten really bad so it's 730 in the
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morning George Rawlins removed 12 to 14 ounces of blood at Washington's request
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I know bleed him that's what they did back then yeah yeah of course so
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Washington requested that and then afterwards he's like y'all should take
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some more of my blood he asked them to take more and so throughout the morning
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they ended up taking more blood from him they tried to give him an enema the
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beginning of adrenochrome they tried all sorts of things they tried to give him
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sage tea laced with vinegar to gargle yeah that didn't work they tried to put
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some stuff in there to make it worse because then it would be like oh that
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with that that friction or whatever makes whatever blisters we create will
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solve the other blisters that sort of because medicine terrible back then
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blisters so throughout the day through the bleeding weirdly he did end up
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regaining some of his strength but his afternoon came he knew he wasn't going
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to make it and he was quoted as saying soon enough he was he was struggling for
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air and he told dr. Craig doctor I die hard but I'm not afraid to go I believe
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from my first attack that I should not survive it my breath cannot last long
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ever the gentleman even in extremes the general made a point of thanking all
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three doctors for their help Washington died at 10 20 p.m. I mean I
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guess I guess they make it there's like a certain bit of sense that they made
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with those like oh well shit's coming out of them so maybe we should just try
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and get the shit out of them you know let's preempt the shit coming out it's
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super fun rid of all of his blood it's super fucked up because they ended up
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taking out 80 ounces of his blood that's a lot which is which is it's it's not
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too amazing to me that Washington survived as long as he did because that
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was really his only accomplishment like he was a bad general he wasn't good at
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tactics he wasn't good at strategy but he looked fucking amazing on a horse and
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he should have died like 30 times and he never did yeah like his horse got shot
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and it fell on him he was like hey guess what I'm fine like he he's got bullet
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holes in his shirt and it was like oh weird it hit off my watch like he was
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that guy he just would not die people still debate what it was that killed him
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I probably the blood loss I think it's probably more the underlying cause of
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like pneumonia or something like that but be that as it may I'm being told in
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the chat I'd forgotten about this but apparently there's a dollop all about
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his death so let's not get too much more into it other than to say he wasn't
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poisoned by the Illuminati was not poisoned by the Illuminati so or Alex
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Bruce he Alex brings up the Illuminati he had written some letters about it
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huh and that this is indication of that they killed him and so I looked into
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that dearest Martha the Illuminati are stealing my blood could you could you
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help me out with this I know you just recovered from a cold ever so kind as to
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stop the Illuminati from bleeding me hey you had a cold I get it I get it I'm
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getting blood by the Illuminati come on give me one give me one help so this
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German guy named GW Snyder sent Washington a letter on August 22nd 1798
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I will read the relevant portion of this letter to you it was sometimes sense
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that a book fell into my hands entitled proof of a conspiracy by John Robison
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which gave gives a full account of the Society of Freemasons that distinguishes
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itself by the name of Illuminati whose plan is to overturn all government and
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all religion even natural and who endeavor to eradicate every idea of a
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supreme being and distinguished man from beast by his shape only a thought
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suggested itself to me that some of the lodges in the United States might have
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caught the infection and might cooperate with the Illuminati or the Jacobean Club
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in France for Shea is mentioned by Robison as a zealous member and who can
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doubt of Gannett and at it a day probably have not those their confidence
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in this confidence in this country they use the same expressions and are
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generally men of no religion upon serious reflection I was led to think
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that it might be within your power to prevent the horrid plan from corrupting
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the brethren of the English Lodge over which you preside and that's why he was
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bled to death by the Illuminati so George Washington replied it seems like
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I kind of the alone the Illuminati he's describing hmm I think they're right I
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think they're dead on well Adam Weiss hop in that hole I'm glad they killed
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Washington the Bavarian Illuminati existed from 1776 to 1785 right was
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disbanded but everybody is like oh no they secretly weren't despair oh boy oh
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there's nonsense a Templar and mostly all they seem to be interested in was
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like rationality over superstition exactly but be that as it may every
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other account of all this stuff is wildly ahistorical okay okay but George
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Washington did reply to his letter on September 25th 1798 he wrote back dearest
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Martha you're stealing my blood please stop the Illuminati from sending me
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letters that take my blood magically so he writes I have heard much of the
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nefarious and dangerous plan and doctrines of the Illuminati but never
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saw the book until you were pleased to send it to me the same causes which have
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prevented my acknowledging the receipt of your letter have prevented my reading
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the book hitherto namely the multiplicity of matters which pressed
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upon me before and debilitated state in which I was left after a severe fever
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had been removed so and the book was dumped so he was also had a terrible
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fever a year before he died yeah which is man knows and which and which allows
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me to add a little more now then thanks for your kind wishes and favorable
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sentiments except to correct an error you have run into of my presiding over
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the English lodges of this country the fact is I preside over none nor have I
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ever been in one more than once or twice within the last 30 years I believe not
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withstanding that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with the
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principles ascribed to the society of the Illuminati with respect I am yours
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your humble servant George Washington so from that we can conclude George
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Washington ran the Illuminati he denied it okay really that means that he was
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running it you're using the Alex logic clearly what means so he wasn't killed
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by the Illuminati and the letters that he wrote was the Illuminati letters that
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he wrote regarding the Illuminati the what he says there is I have heard of
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this stuff which I could say too that's not confirmation that the Illuminati
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fucking exists in any meaningful way especially not in 1798 1799 right now
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yes I am in as much as these fucking dill weeds present it anyway the clip
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isn't over ah but that is important that we now have we got we got Washington on
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record as saying fucking fuck the Illuminati it's more like come on yeah
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come on man like first of all I'm not a head of any lodge no I haven't even been
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to any not amazing guys not a Mason and look they're not calm down come on it's
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more or less a letter that says calm down how do you get the president to
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write you a letter saying shut up about the Illuminati I think he was sending a
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lot of letters back then from one of the other letters that he wrote back to the
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guys like it takes up a lot of my times writing back to people that's true they
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didn't have TV back then so might as well write letters yeah through the lore
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of places like the Lone Star State so again he's just reiterating that he gets
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all his information from lower or lower or not fact now to defend the Republic
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till the end
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the state meant to be a redoubt in the future if the enemy was able to take
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over the rest of the country these covert wars have been going on since
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before this country was founded
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when did they start and these are the type of secrets you learn if you're in
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the right Lodge and a 33rd degree Mason yep
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it's not the secrets of Solomon's temple
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he was dead back then
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so I'm gonna get into the big news that this Bundy tragedy distracts from
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spoiler alert event Ghazi so so lore lore the podcast by what's-his-face I
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don't know the Lone Star State is meant to be a redoubt yep in case these evil
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forces take over the rest of the country right which sounds to me like lore it
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also sounds to me like the grandiosity of people who are nationalistic about
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their state which Texas certainly is never heard that before no but I mean
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you get you get similar variations of it from people in New York to like they
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have real overblown senses of themselves just by virtue of being born in or
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living in New York I love his I love his long pauses because you clear that he's
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like he's grabbing at whatever so no bullshit 33rd degree baseball shirt
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sure I disagree with you okay I think that what happened there is that he was
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like oh ratcheting up dramatic no no no he was like oh no people are gonna think
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I just admitted to being a mason ah I think that's what happened okay he's
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like that's the lower you hear when you're in the right lodges and a 33rd
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degree whoops I don't I don't necessarily I'm not here to say that
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Alex Jones is a fuck he's in the Illuminati but I think that I think that
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the pauses were his brain being like I know how my audience thinks damn it damn
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it this is gonna be a blog post so it's gonna try to break into my house he's
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gonna write a goddamn letter to George Washington about this dearest Martha
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please go bleed Alex Jones he's looking puffy today probably just hungover so
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we've now gotten through like serious problems with his ideas about history
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that he himself has ascribed to lore yeah which is a big problem he's read
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all their books but you know what's more important mmm lore so at this point in
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the show now Alex Jones sort of gets back into a normal show right he gets to
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talking about some headlines until he drops that George Washington was a
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werewolf he also was a werewolf we do know that alright but he gets back into
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a normal show with normal ish headlines but you have to experience them a little
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bit differently after hearing those two clips I believe listen to this and see
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if you get the point I'm trying to make Austrian record-holding athlete lashes
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out of the idiotic refugee policies it's not idiotic bringing in martial law
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whether 60 people keep saying they're idiotic no they run things the
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globalists are totally evil you got to admit that they're scientific they've
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dominated us they're on top of us not oh they're crazy because it makes you feel
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better about it that's the first step going down this is crazy yeah crazy like
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a fox you got to get inside the enemy's mind or they're gonna beat you every
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time 60% of refugees heading to Europe or economic migrants top EU official
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natural yeah they want free goodies and you know women many of their countries
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women are just absolute property so why not by the way they've got the liberal
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German women out giving the Arab men roses and just saying hey baby I'm here
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I'm sorry for our massage and I'm sorry for a xenophobia against your horrible
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Stone Age you know religion of making women wear beekeeper suits and sexually
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mutilating and killing a woman if a man rapes her and you saw of course the
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sickening anti-female anti-family devil feminists love it because they hate
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women they want you to abort your children they want you without a good
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man they want you to hate your sons if you do have them they want to just they're
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just you Genesis high priestesses so of course they go to the Islamic system you
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know caliphate slavers and just hit their knees because they love cancer
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they love death they love failure they hate the West they hate the New
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Atlantis they want to blow it up absolutely overrun by demons ladies and
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gentlemen so I don't think it's I don't think it's possible to not hear those
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words through new ears and say they're coming for Texas well Texas is the
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redoubt but you know what what he he's he conceives of this as centuries long
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fights between religious factions yeah this is insanity like this to the point
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where he misrepresents literally every piece of history that he tries to
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ascribe to anything I don't know it kind of feels like he still thinks we're
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fighting in the Crusades I think he does yeah I mean it feels like he goes back
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that far is like the Knights Templar were actually my great-great-great-great
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great-grandfathers and they fuck it fucked until we got Travis Travis knew
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my family I'm Confederate royalty oh also I'm a knight temp I did I did find
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that letter he references like if Alex is related to the Ayers is then that is
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true but I don't know if he's related to the that family at all through his mom's
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side I have no idea but like that letter does exist where Confederate royalty
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colonel Travis does say take care of my boy but even in that letter he says I
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might I might make it yeah I could I could make it but like the the thing is
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this friction that he sees and this idea that we're being overrun with these
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false immigrants and it's some sort of a plan to destroy the new Atlantis that's
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a piece of this bigger stuff and that bigger stuff is straight up like fucking
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lore it's straight up fanfiction that people have written about history right
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to try and explain some very difficult things throughout history it's a
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convenient excuse for why things have happened additionally it's a convenient
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excuse if you're trying to scapegoat Jews repeatedly throughout history that
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those sorts of things or even take Jews out of it your political opponents right
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like those sorts of easy scapegoat tricks are what you see historically
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throughout the history of the Illuminati lore and Alex believes all of it he he's
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making it clear he believes all of it and he believes that this like that's
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that's what he thinks like the deep state stuff is I'm like I'm so not
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surprised he loves Trump now like if I'd heard that clip right much earlier I
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think that I could have pieced a little bit together in terms of like Trump an
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Illuminati guy I know he's a I know he's an anti-semite but I didn't know if he
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was an Illuminati guy I have no idea I think he's too savvy to say something
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like that in public right that that unpacking will be much worse than the
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shithole countries comment yeah yeah but the he would pay more than a hundred
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and thirty thousand dollars to keep that quiet in the same way alright in the
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same way that Alex Jones sees Colonel William Travis in himself and has
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created his own mythology mirroring Colonel
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Travis's I think he sees Trump in there too I because the way he portrays Trump
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as being up against it nothing but enemies around he's stuck he's he's
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pretty he's creating the Alamo around Trump right but at the same time it's
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just more I mean you could you could say that but I think it's probably more just
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a situation where it's like the more enemies Trump accrues the more he likes
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Trump like he just has to double down to some extent every enemy only makes him
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like Trump more simply because that puts him back in the outsider position that
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we know he loved so much like if a lower or Trump or the person who knows he's up
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against it and has no chance of coming out alive like he believes Colonel
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Travis was right and still goes and marches to his duty when in reality if
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you look at the history Colonel Travis like I don't want to do this right and I
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guess that is a lot like Trump then yeah I guess so but I'm just kept bumbling
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upwards until he got to be president and look at the history of the debts that
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Colonel Travis has exactly even more closely yeah absolutely so anyway at
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this point Alex goes through some headlines and he has a shit prediction
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that we can look at scoffingly although we know that Trump wouldn't write a
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letter saying take care of my boy he would write a letter saying like wait I
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have kids yeah exactly hold on hmm Hillary Clinton drops below 50%
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nationally now Obama is having Bernie Sanders to the White House signaling
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that they may just not use Biden they may use Sanders they may be offering him
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a VP slot with by sure wait for it wait for it that's in the cards or Elizabeth
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Warren and Biden Joe Biden wasn't nice to complains to Twitter that co-founder
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that Hillary mocking hashtag he is pure misogyny she criticizing the Lord and
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Savior is hating women just like it was Peter Dow I don't really care
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no criticizing Obama criticizing blacks what to sit here explain to women if she
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gets elected we're not against you we're not against you we're not against you
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the CIA ran Hillary and this magazine we just we just want to stop her she's a
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tyrant shut up the women are wedding you'll never stop us it's like
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Charlton Heston at the end of Omega Man I have the cure I want to free you shut
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up they throw a spear into him shut up we want to be like this there's chemicals
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in the water we want them you don't get the metaphor of the Omega Man no and at
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that point after he does that impression long-ass pause real long pause does not
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understand I'm more frustrated about the Omega Man than I am about anything else
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that we've said so far tonight well I mean if you look at what he's saying in
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the metaphor that he's making he's like I mean first of all it's he only only
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way he understands the world is through movies so there's that but then even
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beyond that what he's saying is really really insulting to women like oh yeah
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like just the take away the fucking idea of any hashtag anyone's complaints about
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it but just the idea that they're like women are so stupid they just love her
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because she's a woman and scream at me because I have the answer women are
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always going to win in his in his Omega Man metaphor the I have the answer is
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women shut up right then they won't listen they won't listen I have the
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answer and it's stay in your place but that's the problem that I have with his
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analysis of the Omega Man is that the point of the Omega Man was he's the
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monster right not the zombies it's him he's the murderer he's the killer of
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these people right so in that sense I guess Alex does have the metaphor right
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as as in the wrong way as it has it happens Alex is the murderer so weirdly
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every now and again he is right yeah unintentionally yeah yeah maybe that's a
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good example of that I have the answer because I'm the monster oh I somebody
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should have explained that movie to me shit I need to stop drinking NyQuil
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before the movies I only like the Vincent Price version I like the Will
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Smith version so in this next clip Rambo Joe Biggs
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Pizzagate Joe Biggs pre-Pizzagate rare comes in to gate yeah Preet's a gate
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Biggs comes into studio because they need to talk about the Bundy situation
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and Biggs had been at the compound he had been really yeah he made a trip to
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the wildlife preserve course he did and to why am I surprised at that and as I
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understand to bunker Ville to the original compound yeah and so Joe Biggs
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and Alex have a very interesting conversation did you know they're
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serving pizza at that fucking bird reserve I swear to God we got to
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investigate this so he's really only had one story everywhere he goes it's pizza
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you got to look at the menus got a look at the pizza menus at that wildlife
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preserve I just like getting paid to eat pizza everyone's got to look into it for
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themselves so in this in this clip Alex Jones says something preposterous about
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the Bundy's so right off the bat you can kind of tell that they were ready to
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demonize this use this as a maybe to set an example for what the government
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wanted to do to people like this to so-called right wingers who are gonna go
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up and make a stand against the government because they did get beat
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back in Nevada when that happened with the standoff on the Bundy Ram we can
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roll some of that b-roll in the background it's it's it's historic feds
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surrender armed feds surrendered to citizens they were threatening to shoot
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David Knight at the front of it with the camera and then they sure they were in
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the wrong that would have been Lexington or Concord shot hurt around the world if
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they would have mowed down people with their guns not up guns down on horseback
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with American flags that would have kicked off a revolution and we might
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win that one but if we but if a revolution kicks off in the wrong way
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and we shoot first that gives the enemy home field advantage and the toin costs
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to be receiving the kickoff go ahead so they could have willing to die for the
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revolution that's David Knight exactly on the scene that's what he yeah they
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pointed a gun at David Knight if they had killed David Knight my man the whole
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world would have gone up in flames my man that they could have won that
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revolution well yeah but we all knew that if they killed David Knight the
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Hicks win the revolution everybody knows this yeah this is just chess over
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monopoly over over risk yeah exactly makes perfect sense so now here is where
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we get into what I would describe is I don't we're recording this on Martin
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Luther King Day so this clip makes me uncomfortable great but that's why I'm
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so glad we didn't do today's episode I don't know if I can handle hearing more
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white people compare white people to Martin Luther King jr. and that well I
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think I think I'm out I think I'm out on that I agree I agree but I will say that
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imam Bundy was the Martin Luther King jr. of the Mormons in this next clip it
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don't bring up Martin Luther King but this is so fucking dog-whistle racist it
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makes me it hurts my ears oh let's say like I said I I've been a big supporter
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I've even spoke to to a monies mother before and things like that and and and
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had conversations with them I do believe that they have pure intentions that deep
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down inside they don't really have any ill intention whatsoever that what they
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were doing they were truly trying to make another stand and I just like I
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said I I thought this was just not at the right place you know but then you
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have that left again coming out which I don't get saying white tear you know you
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have all these people on Twitter coming out last night saying oh great you know
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these terrorists these white terrorists are arrested call them terrorists that's
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what they should be well sorry you know and they're in there all the black lives
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matters people well I mean they want a race war and and and they paint
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everything is racial and they also sit there and want a police state in America
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even though they claim they're criticizing and they're just
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disconnected dumb stupid people I mean really the end of the day what happened
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Martha and Tom didn't get to go into the Wildlife Refuge and work a few days a
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week I mean there's probably hardly anybody out there really manning that
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place it's in the middle of nowhere meanwhile they they quote-unquote break
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into this federal facility and what do I see them doing when I'm down there
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sweeping cleaning off the sidewalks taking care of the property the land
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making sure it's fine I didn't see Black Lives Matter in Ferguson break into a
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store and start doing shopkeep work and rearranging stuff no they were taking
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stuff and running out and throw Molotov cocktails and so that is awful that is
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awful for a number of reasons first of all if I understand correctly his
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reasoning if I steal your TV but when you see me with it I'm dusting it off
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well that thief no no I'm taking care of it no or if I frankly it's more mine now
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than it is yours if I have a bunch of guns and I occupy your home and I put
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dust off your TV he's cleaning I'm cleaning it up I put salt on your
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sidewalk it's snowy out there guys look there's no I own your house now but
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you're not gonna slip and fall there's an amazing irony to Alex Jones being
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like they want a race war they want to make everything racial and then Joe Biggs
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20 seconds later being like I didn't see all these white people they cleaned up
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yeah now the reality of that is quite different I'm gonna read here from an
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article in the Huffington Post can pooped everywhere no they were
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discussing Doug trenches yeah full of poop yeah the Malheur National Wildlife
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Refuge quote-unquote occupation ended more than a month ago but yet damage
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caused by armed militants who gathered to protest the federal government's
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management of public lands remains the total cost of the occupation stands at
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about six million dollars to the federal government in addition to three million
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dollars already pitched in by the state of Oregon of that Jason home Tom and
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Martha have a lot of back pay come yeah Jason home assistant regional director
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of USF WS says 1.7 million dollars has been flagged just for repairs and
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cleaning of the reserve itself home warned the nearly two million dollar
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cleanup cost is a moving figure subject to change as the agency conducts a
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thorough inventory of what was broken and what's missing so here's where it
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gets here here's where it gets really important so they made those buckets of
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poop and what have you right and that's one thing a report released in February
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by the FBI said quote significant amounts of human feces were found on
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site after the occupiers surrendered next to a sensitive cultural site
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containing artifacts sacred to the burns plate tribe great so that boy boy howdy
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howdy howdy is that a big giant fucking metaphor right there oh I saw that in a
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movie I would be like guys bid on the nose yeah home said the wildlife refuge
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will recover eventually but there's concern that the militia members may
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have harmed Native American artifacts or destroyed other records which are
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irreplaceable nature is durable it'll be just fine home said buildings and
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property are fixable or replaceable they'll be fine the relationships with
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the community will strengthen as a result of this however damages to
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tribal artifacts would be heinous and loss or missing lost or missing
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biological data could be impossible to replicate our refuge employees are
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thrilled to be back doing the job blah blah blah we're we're thrilled and blah
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blah blah 26 people were charged with federal conspiracy now is a great time
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to remind everybody that they just got off scot-free they did I mean they did
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cause a lot of damage to sacred sites that they will not have to pay for or do
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any criminal time for no jail time for them nope and so to drive home the point
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that Alex Jones excuses all white behavior here is a clip of him saying
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that pretty much all white terrorism is just the feds fair enough there would be
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more feds at the meeting then there would be Patriots and the feds would
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have to have secret hand signs so they wouldn't set each other up of course I
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mean it's that bad folks I've had them no exaggeration probably 30-plus times
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come up to me in a book signing a video signing an event go listen I got c4 in
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my truck out there right now let's go blow up the police station and I go get
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the camera on get the camera on this person's a cop and they run out and so
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they got a cop car you know unmarked fed and they'll go I'll get you later Jones
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I don't know about that if if true we gotta hire some better cops that is a
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bad idea for real as far as the honeypot goes not a good one uh yeah hey Alex
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let's go blow up a police station oh you caught me if you're living the kind of
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life where 30 times in your 20-year career yeah someone has come up to you
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real or not and suggested you blow up a police station right you're not doing a
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good job you're in a bad line of work you're attracting the wrong crowd you
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need a doctor and now I've those people aren't real and now I'm you just want to
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blow up a police I'm deeply concerned now that any fan who runs into us on the
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streets now that will be their code for I listen to the show let's go blow up
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police I really hope that that guys guys put your phones in your freezer it's
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time to go blow up a police there's a cop oh no get the camera on him if
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you're a cop or you're just playing a prank I think you would probably run
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away if Alex Jones is like get the camera on him he's a cop I think I think
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that doesn't prove their cops I also don't think it happened 30 times but be
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that as it may feds all of them at this point in the episode Alex brings on his
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big CIA whistleblower tosh Plumley tosh Plumley point oh right yeah and I I
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don't care I don't really care but at a certain point which faction does tosh
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belong to the eighth faction the eighth faction I wasn't supposed to all they do
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is you only learn about that if you're a third 33rd level Mason all they do is
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blow up police stations with the help of minor radio personalities so in his
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interview though there's one thing I wanted to play for you because I think
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it's really interesting I think it's very very interesting and if you listen
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to this closely I think that it's tosh Plumley pointing a finger at Alex I
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don't know if that's the case as if it's Alex vaults for these kinds of assholes
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doing this kind of shit no I think he's subtly trying to be like give a hint to
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the audience or something like this I would say that I don't think I've heard
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tosh Plumley on the show in a long time and there may be like there might be a
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thing where he's like I don't want to come on your show anymore I don't know
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I'm not entirely sure I don't I don't have the statistics to back that up he
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might have been on two weeks ago and I just missed it sure something like that
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but there are things that he's saying in this clip that are absolutely like I'm
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kind of talking about Alex yeah I think you'll pick up on it pretty quick okay
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well you're so incredible tell them about illusionary warfare training well
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that's what it is it's a it's a modified technique that's been used since the
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1950s is an infiltrate in if you can control the communications you could
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you've won the war or you've won the situation right usually the
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communications person that quote handles all communications for the group is who
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you look for we've had Mockingbird that's an old CIA project now let me
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qualify something here on CIA there are people that is infiltrated within the
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CIA that our CIA that's the sea of some of the CIA do not even know it the
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night fact we have a I'm not talking about rogues another shadow CIA I'm
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talking about a shadow warriors are you know not to from the standpoint of a
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shadow warriors on organizations and things like that I'm talking about there
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is a shadow government out there that is working these programs the program is
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designed to desensitize us to where we expect exactly what the hell we're
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getting right let's be clear the big foundations the big leftist foundations
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run but have the national security clearances the clandestine dirty
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programs against the Patriots and so a lot of times the local police the FBI
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even the CIA don't know it's the foundations that are even above the
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agencies with their action program here in the United States all right let me
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put it this way too do you hit it right on the head Alex oh sure also there's
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gatekeepers assigned end of these organizations are agencies that prevent
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good honest people that work for those agencies from doing their job so three
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things that were said within that clip are giant criticisms that are levied in
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the anti Alex Jones online community okay the first is that idea of
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communications people are probably the most suspicious right Alex Jones is the
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biggest mouthpiece of the Patriot community right he is the communications
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aspect of that entire operation and Alex seems to not understand what his own
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words implicate him and being like wait you know yeah you find the person who's
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in charge of communications at your guy he's pointing the finger at himself yeah
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so the second thing is the idea that Alex Jones desensitizes people to the
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situations that people the powers that be want them to be desensitized
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right so they accept their circumstance so you have this idea of this
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overpowerful elite these globalists who have their fingers in every pie there
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they control all seven factions of the CIA but not the secret eighth fact no
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that's true which Tosh Plumlee point oh is a part of so that idea desensitizing
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you to this worldwide conspiracy that exists through iron-clad pedophile
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blackmail that want to kill your children and drink their blood and all
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this stuff and all they're gonna do is keep trying to fuck with you through
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these like making you depressed through the water the chemicals in the water the
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the media is gonna lie to you all the time there's going to be fake
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terrorists that are going to run you over with a car you're not safe in
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public this idea is and you can't fight it back against them except by giving me
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money and yelling at Muslims on the streets if you see them because that's
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good fun but like the idea that his role in the whole game plan is
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desensitizing people to be able to think I can't fight back right when the way to
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fight back is through direct action through protesting the writing letters
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to your Congress people voting all those sorts of things like those are
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legitimate things you can do you can push for reform those things you're not
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like we are not past that point Alex Jones's role according to a lot of his
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critics run line is that he is there to train you to think you don't have
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anything you can do he's in the shadowy ninth faction it's a CIA it's a trained
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hopelessness that Alex Jones instills in his audience again like you said even as
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I was talking the only thing you can do is give him money yeah and support him
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the third thing in that one and a half minute clip of Tash Plumleys that is
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also one of the big fingers that gets pointed at Alex Jones is that he is a
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gatekeeper and that he is in place so there is a flow of information the
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correct way I don't necessarily believe this because that implies that the
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globalists are real right and that but that criticism that comes to him from
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these internet commenters is that the globalists are real and Alex is a
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limited hangout yes controlled opposition where yeah a little bit of
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truth and a lot of lies right in order to make sure that you stay suckling off
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his teat as opposed to the real truth tellers in the world he won't even come
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out and say that the Jews are at fault for all of our problems he kind of does
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yeah well but but so but he won't come out and say I'm not saying necessarily
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the Tash Plumley is wagging his dick at Alex but there is it's it I would say
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strikes me as amazing that there's three of the biggest criticisms of Alex within
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one minute and a half of them talking but that gets back to our I know you are
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but what am I like if you want they're not doing what they're doing is just
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accusing the opposition of what it is whatever it is they think they're doing
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okay they're they're silly it feels silly no it's a little different uh-huh
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it's a little different than the general coming from Tash Plumley point oh no
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well yeah yeah it is it is a little bit different and I I give I give it I give
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it a little bit more of a pause to be like why is he saying those things with
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Alex it's just of course the I'm rubber you're glue yeah but him coming at Tash
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coming in and saying stuff like that just makes me think like there's probably
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an intention behind it and it's not just deflecting because he doesn't have to do
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that right he has no skin in the game necessarily no which is why he can just
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say you hit the nail right on the head Alex and then say something completely
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different that's what all his guests yeah so anyway here's a little bit of a
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commercial that I really enjoyed that Alex does for his product DNA force
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great no no ad pivot to speak of on this but man this is going straight into this
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is a great commercial okay just the bio PQQ is 12 to 14 thousand dollars a kilo
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from the Japanese who make it right here in America it's in Japan they've been
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obsessed with it for 20 years and of course they're the longest-lived people
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there are for a lot of other reasons the point is DNA force is hardcore just the
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bio PQQ has the equivalent vitamin C delivery in the body it's different but
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it's basically the same and you breathe the science of 300 pounds of blueberries
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you can't take you know 20 that a lot of you see like as Pauling said not get
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diarrhea you can't really overdose on it but it can make you sick
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biopic you cue one pill 300 pounds of blueberries and Annie I mean it's just
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it's and this is what the elite take five years ago my dad was going to
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medical doctors he's a little berries he's done some stuff at the Pentagon
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trying to get things fast-track nutraceutical separately from working
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female and he said this is what you need to do is he goes they're gonna try to
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ban this here in the u.s. or make a prescription he goes this is three
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hundred six hundred dollars for something so we made our own formula
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and it believe me it's got the industry actually upset because all blueberries
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three hundred bucks for something like this and ours is better so there's life
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calm I've had a comparable product for $50 but be that as it may the you know
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what seat now I just saw the best infomercial ever like if we're talking
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as seen on TV products this is the perfect time to be like have you ever
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been eating 300 pounds of blueberries and you're like the time my mouth is
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blue and they just show like a b-roll from from Wonka or just some woman
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holding 300 pounds of blueberries go slipping and how many times have you
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held 300 pounds of blueberry right oh yeah I can't even afford it it's it's
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insane and one of the things I was looking into this I don't care about the
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blueberry situation but I find myself saying that all the time do you mean the
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band the blueberry situation no but also rest in peace yeah true but be that as
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it may the difference between Alex's products and other products is in the
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blueberry tonnage know the nutrition information what you find is that Alex
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Jones always has on the back of the bottle proprietary blend and then
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whatever amount and it says the things that are in it but it doesn't say how
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much of anything is because it's a proprietary blend it's all blended
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together gotcha he just lists the ingredients he doesn't give you an
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actual idea of percentage of what how much is yeah yeah and so whenever we you
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know you find a comparable product on like some other that other another
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company puts out and they'll give you specifics yeah they'll give you all the
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actual amount how much bio PQQ is in it because he's saying it costs $14,000 a
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kilo or whatever and that could be enough to go six years take a look at
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this hold on one second there is 25% of your daily allotted vitamin C in this
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right how many pounds of blueberries is that he's pretending somehow it's he
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says is that 10 pounds of blueberries it's absorbed the same but different
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different I don't know what that is it's nothing so in this next clip Alex Jones
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has another weirdo guest a guy by the name of Joel Skousen who's a blueberry
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he's a mess hate this guy I can't get off this blueberry thing it's a I want
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to measure everything in pounds of blueberries now and I want to know how
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much in a bowl of cereal how many pounds of blueberries are there I mean it
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depends how many I mean is it honey bunches of oats with blueberries there's
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zero there's zero blueberries however in bio PQQ got a blueberry so uh
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Joe Skousen comes on and he I hate him I don't want to talk about his history or
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anything like that because I'm I want to take him down to dick I'm gonna take him
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down a little bit later in a much more thorough way but in this clip he
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basically just rewrites what happened with the shooting of Lavoie Finicum and
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gives him a real generous take I wonder why Finicum who's a very mild-mannered
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grandfatherly type well-spoken Mormon he's a good so already well-spoken
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grandfatherly type white Mormon good man white religious man it's a shame that
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he's the one that got shot I mean this guy was taking the higher ground he he
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was not you know there's conflict reports about what happened when he got
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out of the car but clearly I don't know and his hands were in the air and it's
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good that he may have been fed up you know one of the witnesses and talking to
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Bundy's bodyguard said that he rushed to the officers but I don't think that's
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really what happened what I think was in his anger saying look if you're gonna
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kill me then go ahead and shoot he was you know walking forward to them
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basically bearing his chest to them with his hands with a guy there's no
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justification for the police the FBI or whoever it was he had him in the head
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when his hands are near I don't care if you're walking towards him or absolutely
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so so beyond that let's let's pretend he wasn't on okay okay let's pretend he
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wasn't armed right which is not true now but now admittedly Bundy's bodyguards
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did say he was angry and he rushed the cops but with no information at all I
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don't think that's what happened let's pretend that he wasn't armed and Joel
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Skousen situation is right okay now let's imagine a situation where he's not
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white and now we don't we already know no no no no but let's imagine the
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situation where just by Joel Skousen's words that he he was fed up and he said
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shoot me and he was walking towards the police bearing his chest and they told
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him to stop walking and he kept walking towards them there's no way Alex Jones
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would ever give any kind of a pass no of course no this sort of thing and the
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idea that Joel Skousen is just like what I think happened yeah I know that was
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bananas that's terrible analysis yeah I don't think that's what happened no no
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it's that simple get to do that no the guys who were on his side who were there
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reported what happened I don't think they know what they're talking about I
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think he was cool I don't think so I think he was a cool guy I don't think I
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don't think I don't think they know what they're talking he's a cool guy yeah he
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had his hands up now admittedly one was in his pocket reaching for a pistol
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that's true yeah but I think if you're a grandfatherly type well-spoken guy who
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wouldn't pull a pistol on the cops right what who amongst us grandfatherly white
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people hmm wouldn't just pull a pistol I know my grandfather was the kind of guy
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who would take government money to not grow things on land yeah and then get
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$100,000 a year from a charity to have a bunch of foster kids right when I have
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15 of my own children right crazy anyway we have one more clip Jordan and this is
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where Alex Jones goes through I wanted to leave this episode because we it's
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been a little bit heavy on me poking massive holes in his historical beliefs
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right and I wanted to leave with a good example of how he covers news I know we
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hear little clips from time to time of him like I'm sorry you said news what
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you should have said was lore of the day headlines is the lore lore du jour and
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he does this is him riffing riffing through the headlines enjoy us he
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stabilized Europe Austrian I just wanna be clear also keep in mind this is the
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exact same headlines yeah didn't get into the actual stories of earlier right
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he just he's on repeats record-holding athlete lashes out absolutely that's the
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plan 60% of refugees heading to Europe or economic migrants EU official
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feminized males will allow Muslims to conquer Europe ab sounds right again
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this is it's the strategy of repetition with no analysis right no discussion of
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whether or not these things I'm saying are true or what the context of these
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things are just repetition so you believe it it's beat into your head
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right be afraid putting estrogen in the water attracts bears and bees I hate
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bees absolutely they love it they love to get beat up while their
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girlfriend gets drug off and gang raped and then hood put on her head and the
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police just hail it they just all they love it it's a symbol of conquering
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Europe by the state that hates its slaves hates its minions it just wants
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to solve around because there's nothing they won't put up with nothing they
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don't love no amount of humiliation they don't want top Bilderberg global
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super elite must-stop Donald Trump info Wars calm very important article Hillary
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Clinton's Roswell 50% nationally even in stage polls
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plenty nice to complains to Twitter that co-founder that Hillary mocking hashtag
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is pure misogyny once banning Hillary to be done all the same stories some trendy
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actress wants to tell the media what they can write about Hillary I mean
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these people are just just just flaming out of control people on the left don't
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like Lena Dunham either now I looked up what Lena Dunham said and I shouldn't
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have yeah ugly dumb tyrants but doesn't matter we fall in worship then and do
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whatever they say rolling over on our backs like a puppy just in total fear
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because we love it we love it just land of the cowards home of the slaves land
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of the idiots just groveling loving every minute of it just goes on and on
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and on and on and on and on really there's a certain percentage that that's
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like that a big percentage though really really hates the government CBS News
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poll great government is just hated more than organized crime because it is
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organized right at the top nice main governor my own page bring back the
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guillotine for drug traffickers oh like the CIA and all big banks publicly run
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it all I just love these these anti-drug people everybody knows who brings the
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drugs in they want to keep it illegal to keep the prices up he delivered that
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line right there as if it's an old-time catchphrase keep it illegal so you keep
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the prices almost as if it's a call-and-response where like on his
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farewell tour he you be the audience yeah they keep it illegal sir keep the
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prices up thank you it's been a great give me a break city demands firearms
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applicants right as she explained the need for a gun and they of course refuse
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most of them but where's the evidence of that Alex hamburger essays are not
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people who buy guns as strong point and also where is the when you get statistics
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on rejections of these essays that I'm sure are just part of I don't know just
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just like a formality just write something if you write a an essay that
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would score you 300 on the written SAT we'll give you a gun if you can avoid
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saying I want to don't kill somebody then you get a gun but nobody wants your
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guns folks Monsanto sues the block listing of herbicide ingredient as a
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carcinogen well it's because studies came out that showed that glyphosate is
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not a person yeah or at very least it's in the lowest category possible in terms
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of potential carcinogens yeah I don't want to defend Monsanto they can all
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burn in hell no totally this is a misrepresentation of acts and Alex can't
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handle it on and on and on at this point he has run out of stories yes all the
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papers gone I'm gonna hand the baton to jakari and Leanne now but before I do
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that I wanted to just remind everybody one more time today that we're running
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the biggest special ever that one is lame saw that coming force yeah of
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course it was saw that one coming but it's still too easy it still happened do
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you know who is trying to keep us from getting good ad pivots big blueberry no
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Rosicrucian cults dude that's another thing that I was thinking about like I
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know a little bit about the Rosicrucians and one of the things like I think that
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I think that in terms of when we talk about Alex Jones's Christianity or the
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lack thereof yeah or weird version thereof I think that I've been too
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focused on straight-up Gnosticism I think that some of those ideas about
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living on through your children might come from Rosicrucian beliefs because
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they're big into reincarnation and perfection of the soul through
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repetition and stuff like that so I think I think that that might be that
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Alex might subscribe not only to dumb lore right about history he might also
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have like Rosicrucian Christian dumb religion as well I don't actually think
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the Rosicrucians are all that dumb they're pretty interesting quite frankly
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but Alex is those two are not mutually exclusive Alex is dumb so it becomes
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dumb through him true he is a vessel wherein the interesting becomes stupid
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that's the best sentence I know you just nailed it so yeah that's the show
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that's the show that's his January what is that January 27th 2016 yep beautiful
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so also just to give you a little bit of context this is after he has decided to
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join team Trump this is after our investigation so of course um rest in
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peace Lavoie Finicum is sad that anybody had to die but at the same time fuck
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him I I feel bad for the 15 kids no wasn't it
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Amon Bundy who had the or Cliven Bundy who had the 15 kids it was the it was
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that guy who had 15 15 kids and he was the one who adopted all of those kids so
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he could siphon money from the government according to the site I saw
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earlier today yes that is absolutely the case what a welfare queen yeah oh I
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forgot to play the the out of context drop oh which is just as fun afterwards
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as it would have been beforehand and here you go
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yeah folks I'm psychic I mean it's a fact okay I mean I don't control it
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nobody can but I mean I knew something I just feel it I said okay I thought he
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was just gonna be I thought he was being sarcastic of like yeah sure I'm psychic
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and instead he turns into the no of course I'm psychic I can't control it
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control it though yep absolutely what a dumb dumb amazing anyway if you'd like
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more of the show you can check us out at knowledge fight calm also if you want to
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like too much of the show with an amazing opener Nate burrows ho one of
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the best you know what if you don't like our show come for the first ten minutes
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yeah pretty good come enjoy some Nate by route it'd be interesting to see people
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listening to this podcast and be like you know what I don't like their show
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but Nate burrows is fucking great let's be polite and sit through yeah yeah
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that will be Saturday Saturday Saturday Saturday January 10 30 p.m. at the
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Playground Theatre please come if you can www.theplaygroundtheatre.com
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absolutely slash knowledge dash fight yeah we'll put up a link also we're on
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up on the iTunes we live there absolutely beyond that huh I don't know
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you know what I think I have the perfect I have the perfect one I think we should
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call Matt druffky so he can give one who that would be nice as garbage I believe
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dick that's our friend trash-dick trash-dick Joe Walsh yeah names are way
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too close trash-dick Joe Walsh everybody remember asshole garbage dick great guy
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trash-dick the fucking worst um so then I think honor in honor of druffky
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absolutely but you you're entitled no who cares it's just gonna be one of the
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Bundy's who cares now right fine yeah they can all live in that bundle of go
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fuck yourself Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding
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well Alex I'm a first-time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you