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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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I am Dan. I'm Jordan. We were a couple dudes
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I like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That is pretty much what we do
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is there is there like a
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Man like a turn like a hard turn. Are you trying to come up with another word for twist? I think so
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Yeah, yes, there is and that is I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex
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That is true today Jordan. We will be going over the
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What I'm gonna call and I might be not totally correct about this
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But I'm gonna call this the end of our 2015 investigation through a combination of discoveries and complete and utter
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Exhaustion from doing this stupid story. It's not exhaustion. I could I could do this forever quite frankly. That's scary
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That's a scary thing. You just said it is but at the same time if you really look at it the
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Wow, we've been doing this investigation, which is now on its 20th installment. That can't be true. It is
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I refuse to believe that 20th installment of his investigation
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We've learned so much about Alex Jones that has nothing to do with Donald Trump
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We've learned tons about his Civil War revisionism, right?
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We've learned did you just start the last episode of a Ken Burns document?
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In honor of the Vietnam documentary
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Yeah, so no the the thing is we learned a ton that we never expected to learn
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We didn't expect to see all of these pro-russia sentiments
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We sure didn't expect him to see to see him be debriefed by the Russian. None of this intelligence services
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It's it's entirely insane and I enjoy that these little things that we pick up along the way in the right learn
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and so I am going to I believe I think that what comes next after this I
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think until the end of
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2017
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We need to keep investigating to try and figure out when he loses his mind
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Okay at the end of this he still hasn't quite lost his mind, right?
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Right, right, and I think that that comes probably pretty quick him starting to scream all the time
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Uh-huh, and all the you know, Renaissance 2.0 shit. Yes
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Yeah
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I still think we should do that until the end of the year and then the investigation will take a harsh pivot and
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I want to go over starting in January
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the entire year of like 2013
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Okay
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just jump back further in time or even farther back if I can figure it out and then try and cover the month of
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January in January month of February
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I got it. I put I put it together an investigation an aimless investigation through the past of Alex Jones
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Your optimism on us reaching January is delightful. It's
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Two months. Yeah, I know. Nah, we'll see. Anyway, that's that's sort of my plan
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We'll see what happens three months. I have another plan though. And that is your other plan to give a shout out to our new
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Donator what's going on out there Antoine Etta?
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I'm a policy wonk very thrilled to have Antoine Etta joining up with the policy wonk ranks
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It is delightful to hear your name Antoine Etta. Absolutely
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She is someone who used to love the Degrassi breakdowns on
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Okay, and it's super thrilling to have her back on board. I thought she used to love
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A Henry the 8th. No, I don't I don't believe that's the same person. I don't know what you're doing. I
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Don't know what you're doing, man
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But thank you Antoine. I don't really appreciate it
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It means a lot to have you back on board, but before we get into today's installment, which will be covering
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primarily three days
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In December of 2015. Uh-huh. We have December 16th
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Which I think is the hinge and then December 29th, which is an absurd
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set piece
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Okay, it's another one of those episodes where Alex Jones is clearly doing drama. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And then December 30th, which I think is our
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closure
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Before we do that. Here's an out of context
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drop of Alex Jones
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Adolf Hitler Joseph Stalin, they got their hands dirty
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Both those guys were complete badasses
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complete studs
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They were complete studs not like he's like he's talking about a football team like oh those dudes
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They could shore up the offensive line. So good. They were just fucking studs. That's not great your blind side
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You want Stalin covering your blind side? Do you know why cuz he made people blind. That's what Stalin did
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Yeah, Hitler Hitler. You got to have front and center. He's got a distract
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He's got to take all of those people Mao Mao's quarterback in that shit. You see how it's got the highest body count. Yo
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28 tds and four interceptions last year Oh chairman Mao could toss it you see Hitler that guy's got cardio for days
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This guy can just go he ran a for 340. It's crazy. He's at his weight. No, that's crazy
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And I assure you even in context not great
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In
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Context he's just talking about how the globalists like get other people to do their bidding
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Whereas Hitler got his hands dirty. He's a badass. Yeah, so thanks. So I don't I don't like that. No and
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Let me let me explain very quickly. Why it seems to be making really low as a genocider, right?
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I don't think you want to associate that with positive and I believe Stalin could be in that camp as well
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Oh, oh, he's he's got a higher body count my friend. Yeah, it just less
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Ethnically motivated and more billionaire motivated. Sure. Once again, Alex is really dumb is what I'm getting at. I think that's what we're finding
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Storm front shit, but it's not that he's really dumb. It's that stormfront people are always little idolizing the genociders
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Well, Andy is a boner for strong-arm dudes. He has a boner for authoritarian dictators
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Absolutely, even if he does but he loves freedom and prosperity, right? He whenever he talks about how much he loves these dudes
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Like or that they're studs in this case. I don't like that
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They'll just walk it back with like I'm not saying he's a good dude in the same way now when he talks about terms
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Like Trump's not perfect, right? You know, it's the same fucking thing. He wants authoritarian rule
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Yeah, but it has to be on his terms, right?
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That's what we get even though he has no idea that it will in turn eat him alive
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Oh a hundred percent easy. These people are so fucking stupid
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You know what one history book authoritarian regimes are not loyal to their propagandists. Oh
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They get killed every fucking time you go off the reservation a little bit and you're you're in a ditch
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I don't understand how stupid these people are
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It's pretty crazy and they think that they're they think that they're fighting against the very thing that they're pushing themselves towards
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of course fascinating course human beings and our psychology is
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Spectacular and it's going to get us all killed. So that's nice. It's very depressing mass extinction events are pretty regular
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So I think we're all right, you know, my favorite mass extinction event was or my favorite extinction level event was
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the Busta Rhymes album
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El e extinction level event. It's great as the great song with mystical is they getting rowdy with us
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I'm Alan with us haven't heard mystical in a long time. Yeah, because he was serving a long time for aggravated rape
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I don't want to talk about the monster
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But he and Busta Rhymes had that song where they saw who could rap faster on
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pretty significant
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competition
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There holy shit. Oh, absolutely. Anyway, let's get to the episode. We're gonna start today on December 16th
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2015 on December 15th, there was the final
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Republican debate the primary debate and
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Here is Alex opening up the show giving a little bit of assessment
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Ladies and gentlemen, I've watched all the Republican presidential debates this year
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Congrats, I've covered him live on the air with the crew
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But last night was undoubtedly the most revealing
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It was not one of these canned mindless debates. We've seen the last few election cycles a lot of key stuff came out
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The fact that a lot of Republican neo cons won World War three and are completely unstable and insane
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I mean even Hitler and Stalin didn't talk about launching giant wars publicly. They let's be clear that he did that's
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Really wrong on so many all the levels they did and this isn't even the conversation where he calls them studs
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Oh boy, he brings them up all the time. Oh anyway, not good. They just did it
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They didn't talk about giving other countries bloody noses or blowing up
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Super powers aircraft and there's pretty much what they campaigned on. This is good. This is John Kasich in the
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In the debate says that we need to punch Russia in the nose, right?
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but he was speaking metaphorically and it is was he well his argument was that we've let them get away with too much and they're
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being unchecked and
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You he has an argument now certainly certainly hindsight is interesting. So hold on
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To
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just bizarre behavior and
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Rand Paul really
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Shined in my view last night. I thought he did a great job overall. I thought he spent too much time attacking Donald Trump
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Which is not a good move for him obviously with the electorate, but overall he brought up a lot of really good points
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It's very aggressive
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Defendant internet freedom talked about how well if you want World War three elect governor Casey core elect governor Christie
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A really powerful information came out yesterday. We've got a bunch of clips doesn't play very many
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I was gonna say there's no way he plays a lot of those plays a couple of them
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and it's interesting because he plays a number of them where they're like
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Trump and Jeb just sort of going locking horns
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And one of the that's such a sad thing to remember it have never had a chance. No, but you know, what's really fascinating
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What Jeb was getting like applause breaks like crazy?
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Yeah, when he was attacking Trump. Mm-hmm. Like he told Trump he said you can't insult your way to the presidency
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Ah, he was wrong. He was wrong, but he was so wrong
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But the place you can even insult your way to death the place went crazy
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Everyone was like they were like, yeah, man. All right. Yeah
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Well, I mean Trump hadn't yet seeded all of his public appearances with his own people
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Well, there was that's part of it
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And then I think also there was a part that was like I think they were cheering for blood as opposed to cheer
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Yeah, oh absolutely
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But the optics of it the way Alex Jones plays the clips. It really looks like everyone is into Jeff
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Yeah, which kind of is weird for his I mean, I think you're I think you're absolutely right. It's just basically a bloodsport
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yeah, the Republican debates were a
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A fucking horrific nightmare of idiots yelling bullshit at each other and just lying through their teeth
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And then they get applause breaks for being like Jeb Bush wants to raise taxes on poor people
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No, that's not true. You do I want to raise taxes on poor people. Hooray. It's stupid
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Yeah, so in that clip even he said that Rand Paul shined which is what we would expect from him
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Yeah, because he loves Rand Paul did Rand Paul shine
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Um, no, but I don't remember Rand Paul ever shining. I will give you a spoiler alert
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the only reason that he says that Rand Paul shined is because
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Kasich and I can't remember who the other one was but someone else in the debate said negative things about Russia and
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Rand Paul said if you want to elect someone who will bring us to World War three
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You've got your candidates right, but he was just basically saying hey, let's not attack Russia
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Yeah, and so that's what Alex Jones is saying shined. That's the only positive thing
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He has to say about Rand's appearance in this debate. That's so
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Suspiciously weird very weird and it's gonna get weirder as this episode goes along crazy
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Cuz they're when I tell you about what happened during this set piece. Uh-huh. I think it's gonna blow your mind
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All right, even based on everything that we already know
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Okay, I think December 29th might be one of the craziest things I've ever heard now
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I'm excited. So but before we get there we have to get to why
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Alex Jones thinks that Donald Trump did spectacularly in this debate and
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It has to do a lot with this cuz he's got a big swing
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So the point is is that Trump is planning to use 9-eleven truth on
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Jebi Jebi
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And I told you that and I've told you that
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Before Trump did it and I've told you that after Trump did it
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This is so because I've been told by little birdies that this is the case and let me tell you something
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I went from really liking Trump to really knowing he's for real last night in this guy. Oh, there it is
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This guy now he's for real though. He's so fucking simple. Alex is real fucking simple
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He's the easiest person to fucking fool granted. Apparently it took a while, but I can't imagine how easy this was
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It was this entire time. He's using 9-eleven truther to to attack Jeb Bush. Mm-hmm. I love it
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Yeah, this clip we should elect that guy this clip isn't over. I'm sure he'll do a great job
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This clip isn't over but like you get the sense that like someone around Trump was probably just like hey throw a couple bones
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Yeah, Alex Jones will fucking love you if you just say a couple crazy things and he's like, oh
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I kind of believe those crazy things. Yeah, or easy easy money on that one
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Yeah in my gut not perfect a loose cannon in some respects
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Isn't actively evil against this country, which is a big difference from Jeb Bush and Hillary who are true agents of evil
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Whenever in fact, I want to find this clip. It's in their whole exchange
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Whenever Jeb Bush looks at him and says you will never be president. I don't think he ever finds this clip
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I don't think he ever said that no and he cuts out a little friendly boy. Hey kids get in my white van
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I got candy. Oh, hi. I'm the friendly little old man
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Oh, people hate that goes because they know it's fake he cut out of that and he goes listen
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Like you probably just found the clip typing in Jeb Bush tells Trump he will never be president
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He goes you will never be president and that's because they own the fraudulent delegates and his people are bragging
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We don't care if we have 1% of the vote. He will get the nomination in a broker convention
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They are bragging about this. No, they're not and that did not happen. Oh, no, it didn't isn't that kind of cute? Oh
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We were so we were so innocent back all it took was one bad video to destroy Jeb
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I mean he wasn't doing great before that, but that was a death blow. I mean, do you remember that?
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Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what killed him
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Oh, I mean he wasn't doing good before that. No, but that was like so sad so sad
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Mm-hmm. It made me feel awful for a war criminal
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Yeah, and when I'm watching this debate like on Alex Jones's show watching the coverage of it and hearing
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Jeb Bush say like this guy isn't serious right like talking about Trump like this is not a serious proposal
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He's talking about banning immigrants from our country. That's just not that's not something a serious person would do
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He has no policy experience right? He gets his experience from television. What are we doing? I'm like man
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I hate you, but you're the hero here. Yeah, unfortunately, you're the antihero. You're the Walter White of this debate Walter White
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It's just like what the fuck it's a very conflicted headspace to be in to be like, I don't like any of these guys
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but man
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I mean, it's it's amazing that more people say it until you remember that our media is fucking off the rails
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Like the whole reason that they wanted him to stay in is because he was great for ratings
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Like Les Moonves from CBS said he's bad for the country, but he's good for us like that whole thing
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Yep
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I'm starting to think that billionaires are horrific monstrous people who don't care about how many poor people die in the fucking streets
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Yeah, I'm certain to think that they don't fucking give a shit about three point six million
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Americans in Puerto Rico, which I don't even think we should be fucking saying it shouldn't matter that they're Americans
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We should be sending people at fucking everywhere because we spend eight hundred billion dollars on our fucking military
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Why not just move a little bit of it elsewhere, but no instead it's fucking let people
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Die of thirst
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Yeah, die of thirst in 2017. Yeah, Dan. I don't want to get into it
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I mean just because it's like everyone else is
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Look, I'm not uncaring and I support all sorts of relief efforts and all that stuff
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But quite frankly, I think that there are tons of organizations that do a much better job of covering stuff like that
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Oh, absolutely. So I don't want to get except for the fucking corporate media who is like who's Trump feuding with now?
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It's a he's a fuck. He's fucking killing people. He's not feuding with anybody. He's a murderer, right?
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He's a direct murderer and I hope my here's my dream. Do you want to know what my dream fantasy is now? What?
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I imagine that the FBI investigation for Mueller
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Somebody working for it realizes that they're just gonna pin it on a patsy and they go crazy
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They're like, no we can't do this shit anymore. And then they go assassinate Trump. That's my dream scenario
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Well, I think that's that's problematic for us. I mean you're now playing into Alex Jones's hands
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Oh the world is over. It's already over. But like let's let me enjoy a little bit
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Let's take let's take just a quick second to have an on-air show meeting
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Alex Jones believes that everybody who's against him wants to or fantasizes about Trump being killed
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Uh-huh optically were Alex to find our show and then hear that that reaffirms his belief
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Do you understand what does it matter? There's nothing that's going to shake up his belief. Anyways, that's fair
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Even if we even if we don't say that he's gonna say that we did say that I don't like so I might as well
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Say it. I don't like the idea of you fantasizing about assassination though. I oh man so many people I fantasize about being as as
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I honestly think that's a little bit negative. I
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Understand. I know you think it's a little bit negative for me to fantasize about somebody holding a beheaded coke brother
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aloft on top of a mountain screaming I have control but
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Sometimes you just got to do what you got to do. All right, the knowledge fight does not support
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As a show we don't we don't fully support the views that are being espoused
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I was like, no, I agree. It's it's a bad it's a bad thing to put out in the open. Well, yeah, I
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Don't I don't want to I don't want to say that I don't want I want Trump gone not killed but gone
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I want him out of power. He's fucking up everything but I
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I
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Don't know. I want them. I want them all in jail. They should all be in jail. Yeah, and
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They're all they're all thieves. They've all stolen so much money from us
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They've all they've all contributed to the deaths of thousands of people. I'm thankful not more. It's not going to happen
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Yeah, that's bad. So
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Let's get back to this here debate coverage. Okay?
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We've already heard some pretty positive things about Trump, but he also started the show by saying that Rand Paul shined
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I think I've isolated the exact wears less makeup than Trump. So he actually does reflect light that could be what he's talking about
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Yeah, I found the exact moment. I believe where Trump
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Took over in Alex's mind and Alex flips the script on Rand Paul. Okay, and I think it's right here and
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Trump's going after her for it saying she killed hundreds of thousands of people in Syria and Libya. She did again
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For every bad thing Trump says he said a couple things. He says 15 or 20 really
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Revolutionary things that's why I'm saying I like him and I see him walk back
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Statements that he says off the cuff when he's you know being a tough guy
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I kill the families or we got to shut off parts of the Internet to the terrorists. Those can be misconstrued obviously
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Just like he says. Oh bring the refugees in. Oh, you know, it's terrible
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What's happened to them and then he realizes they're not being screened. He goes no no, no, don't let him in
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And oh now you're the biggest devil in the world
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I'm just trying to be fair about Trump here and not just mindlessly jump on this wolf pack shark pack
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Attack that is so sexy and so cause celeb
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Dumb move by Rand Paul to keep attacking Donald Trump last night when he's way down in the single digits
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Ted Cruz is smart Rand the audit look at what he's doing and I like you know, you're for real now
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I know you're a gentleman
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You started taking the gloves off last night when it came to World War three and stuff and Russia attacks on the internet
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That was a legitimate attack on Trump
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But you know saying he's a kook and a nut and all this stuff. That's what they say about you
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I
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Mean they want you to you know, come out and badmouth your father
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I know full well some of the folks you got working for you do that, you know differentiate yourself from your father
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Your father is George Washington material in my view and you know that and your dad brought you along and you believe
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Everything your dad believes they don't like you because they know that Rand
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They know you trying to moderates not for real just be yourself little boy. You can become president next year
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I
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Never ran on that subject. Let's go back to Jeb Bush more fun to talk about Jeb Bush
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Wow, but I mean, I think they're the cracks are showing he's he's cracking on
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Yeah on Rand Paul, absolutely stupid of you to attack Trump
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He's he's defending Trump as opposed to Rand Paul and those two supporting Rand Paul. Yeah. Well, no, he's he's defect
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He would rather defend Trump exactly right exactly and the the like hey, why are you calling him crazy?
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That's what people say about you. Yeah, that's a big that's big. Yeah, he even said Ted Cruz is smart
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Which is something that you only say whenever your guy is
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Failing a way that you didn't know is possible, right and to see the extent that he flips on
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Cruz once it comes down to just Cruz and Trump rare. It's easy. He's selling all of his allegiances
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I blacked out the moment that he said Ted Cruz is smart. That's fair. I lost I my eyes went red
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That's the equivalent of a Mickey. Yeah
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Hit with a Mickey. Oh, man
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So in this in this next clip we see the first kernels of Alex Jones's insanity his Trump insanity
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Start to emerge and I think you'll see where it is. This is in a
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He has kit Daniels one of his reporters on to talk about what he thought about the debate and we see one of the
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Cool buzzwords make its probable probable first appearance. I believe on kit Daniels your take on the situation
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Well, this whole debate is a microcosm to how the establishment is completely losing the narrative
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I mean, I generally like Donald Trump, you know as libertarian. I do have some concerns about some things he says but
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Let's not lose focus on the fact that he's pulling the Overton window towards liberty. I've
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Honestly in research in history. I've never seen anything like this since the Revolutionary War as far as the free flow of information and how
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We see a with a super populist like Trump showing up. Sorry. Go ahead
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The elite don't like what he's saying or doing. He is moving the debate way back towards 1776
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The needle is going from 1984 to 1776 big-time, right? So it is. Yep. There it is
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That's our 1776 2.0 in action. Well, he hasn't made it 2.0 twice though. Yeah, but multiply the two together. That's fair
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He's calling he's evoking 1776 and granted that is sort of a catchphrase that he has in terms of like the answer to
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1984 is 1776 right or when he told he was on Piers Morgan
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He yelled at him that 1776 will commence if you try and take our guns like that sort of stuff
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He does bring up 1776 a lot, but this is the first time I've heard him reference Trump
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In relation to 1776. Yes, of course and that's big
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That's monumental right knowing what we know about the future and how he's like he is the new George
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Washington right all that stuff. So that is the beginning of that narrative starting to take shape. Oh, I should also say that
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Trump was on
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Alex Jones's show before this. Yes. He came on at the beginning of December
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I believe it was December first and the reason I don't have any clips of that is
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because we've all everyone's heard the clips the big ones that people attack him with that are like
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Trump saying your record your record is spotless. You're amazing. Your reputation is amazing. Yeah
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the reason that I don't I didn't care to include a lot of that is because
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That episode is really just star fuckery. Mm-hmm. Like Alex being like I can't believe Trump would be on my show. Yeah
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It's very celebrity
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Worship heavy cause celeb if you will right and then
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Two days later on December 3rd. He's like, I don't know about Trump
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I still love Rand Paul and so even just him being on the show immediately doesn't really change in which we thought would
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Absolutely change everything. I think it does in subtle ways
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I think his mentality starts to lean much more towards Trump when he realizes like oh fuck he would come on my show
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Right, you know like he must be against the global
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He's saying all these crazy things that I love. Mm-hmm, but I don't think until after this debate it really crystallizes
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and I think a large part of that is because like
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He's bringing up 9-eleven truth, right? He's yelling at Jeb Bush on stage, which is fun. It is fun
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He's living vicariously through Trump it is and I think he's just gotten to a point where the the it's like
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Why am I fighting this Rand Paul is crazy. He's not going to do what I want him to do
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Not right. His heart is pure, but he's a we're in a rom-com. Yeah, that's what's going on
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He's been in a long relationship with Rand Paul Rand Paul is very reliable says a lot of the things he likes
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But guess what? There's this flashy new lady now. He's coming from the fucking big-time, New York, and she can't
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She can't juggle both her job and running for president now
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So she gives off all of her responsibilities to her kids and it's time for her to fuck and who's there now
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It's there for her Alex Jones. Now if this is a traditional romantic comedy, which I like this pitch
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The third act has to be Alex coming back to Rand Paul. Oh, of course and realizing he was wrong all along
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Yeah, I got seduced by the big city guy. Oh, yeah. I'm a down-home country boy Rand
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I should have never left Kentucky. Absolutely this guy's from New York
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So once Trump is impeached then then we go right back to Rand
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But then Rand's got to reject Alex Jones for not seeing through it until it was too late
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No, I don't think so. I think Rand's got a big heart. He's dumb. He's a down-home country boy from Kentucky and it's like well
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Dude, do you really want to be sidled up with the high-profile Russia connected guy who ended up winning?
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The presidency is probably going to get indicted for it. Or do you want to go with the down-home?
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Pure libertarian guy who you love who's also was suspiciously connected with Russia
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Which one do you want you go with the under-the-radar guy? Yeah, I think that's the smart mark safe choice
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So I'm bringing up Russia. I just I just heard whenever he says like, you know as a libertarian
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There are some things Trump says that I don't trust where it's like
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Libertarian and conservative and Republican these just don't mean anything
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I know all these people really want is to watch whatever liberals wanted or did but you crumble. Yeah, that's it
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They just don't fucking care liberal tears. Yeah, they don't have any belief system or any ideology
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They're just looking for anything that liberals want. Yeah, and they're trying to destroy it and that's why the
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Trump movement whether you want to call it alt-right alt-lite any of that nonsense Nazis, whatever it well
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Not all of them, but some yes, certainly
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the reason that that
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organization
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And that movement appealed so much to the internet trolls of the world is because of that
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It's not about productivity. It's not building up anything. It is just about this
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Cruel destruction. Yeah in a lot of ways absolutely and that's what those online communities are really into. That's it. They're into
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Needling and hurting people. Yeah, and that's the fortune gamergate all they read. They don't care about games or
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Ethics and gamer journalism, which what the fuck is that?
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I don't know. They care about destroying some young woman's life because it gives them a sense of satisfaction
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Not just one. Oh, yeah
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Anyway, Russia came up in my last
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Sort of rant there and here's here's a little here's a little thing about Russia. Oh boy
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With Kristy Kasich and Rand Paul and this is the most powerful exchange the night Rand Paul
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I think pretty much wins the debate Trump in second place because of this statement right here about World War three
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Remember we're attacking Russia blowing up Ukraine Russia just responds very calmly very lovingly with sanctions against Turkey and stuff
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Let's kill Russians. I mean, this is foaming at the mouth bloodthirsty piranha behavior that you see out of Isis here it is
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So they they go into like the clips of case. It's saying we should punch them. Yeah
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and Chris Christie's saying that very very
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Bloodthirsty like Isis. Oh, yeah, Chris Christie is saying that if
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They shoot down or if they fly in no-fly zones
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We should shoot down their planes because that's what a no-fly zone is. I don't understand, right?
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Are you saying that we should follow through on some sort of threat?
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Yeah
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And Alex is against no-fly zones because he's like it's just a way to start a war with Russia and I don't want to unpack
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That that very well might be the case
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But at the same time these aren't like bloodthirsty cries for war
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They're more like we need to have some sort of reasonable pushback, right? Otherwise, they're only going to continue creeping forward
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Yes, as we have seen in in the Ukraine. Yeah, whenever they just go this house is ours now. Yep
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Russia Russia's house. Yeah. Well that that I mean that's not even just
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You know isolated to Ukraine. That's a lot of other that's true. That's a lot of other that's pretty much the entire Soviet bloc
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yeah, so I
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think that what this demonstrates is
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That he's turning on Rand Paul a little bit in as much as he's lashing out at him in favor of true
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Right. Also Rand Paul has a semi right Rand Paul has won this debate
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I think that's meaningless because the all he's saying is he's pushing back against criticisms of Russia, right? Which is like, okay great
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Oh, the only people who run the who went who won the Republican debate
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Was the American people absolutely. I think we got everything we wanted out of it
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So other than this that I mean there's there's a number of things that come up in the in the meantime before we jump
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But but a lot of it is really not even worth covering. I it's all so repetitive
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There's all just nonsense like pro-russia sentiments
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anti-muslim sentiments
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anti-immigrant stuff Hillary bashing
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It's just it's a greatest hits album
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It's a slog from the middle of November where we last left off on our investigation
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uh-huh to December 16th and even December 16th up until December 29th a lot of it now granted that
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Second period is a little bit more exciting a little more entertaining than the November mid-november to December 16
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Right like in a hockey game, right? It's the third period of this first playoff game. I guess but like
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you understand it's just I
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could we could spend the next six months talking about how Lord Moncton loves Russia too or
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You know these various other things that I've discovered along the way. Well, I'm sure that he wasn't invited to Paris
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He was what he was but I remember Alex Jones telling me he wasn't nobody was okay
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Alex learned that in the middle of that clip
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Yeah, but I only remember the first time he tells me something whatever he corrects himself headlines
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Yeah, so we jump now to the 29th and I have a lot of theories about what happened on this show. I
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Don't know how to lay this out
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So I'm just gonna go ahead and play this first clip and he was confused that his advent calendar went all the way to the
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29th did that's not it
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Okay, that's not the confusion. There's a big narrative going on and
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It's this is going to be very difficult for us to untwine. Okay, but I have a theory
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I have a guest who's one of the top people tracking Isis in Turkey joining us. Nope
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We have been hit
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With a wide-scale across-the-board attempt to take over info wars and different accounts today
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I'll tell you about the hack attack when we come back after the special report. It's ongoing right now
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So I'm gonna just come out and tell you I don't think this attack happened. So there is a hack attack
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on
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That also could happen in a hockey game. Right? Right, right as opposed to a basketball game, which would be a Shaq attack
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I don't believe this attack happened. I think what is he what is he he's saying that they were there was well
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Let's members try to get taken over. Let's get into it. He gives the details a little bit
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Not many details and no evidence
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The only evidence is an article that went up on infowars.com. All right, that was later taken down
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Okay, and my theory on it is they got some bad intelligence
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Wrote a shit article got embarrassed took it down and this entire hacking narrative is
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Bullshit to use as cover and to validate the guests that they have coming up. Okay, which will play out throughout the next couple
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Clips, but I think Occam's razor tells me that's the case
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Okay, because the next day Alex does not bring up this never again
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Nope, even because if it was a real hacking he would have spent the next two years on it
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He would have had David Knight host the show
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Oh, of course, and he doesn't even talk about it in the second hour of the show Jesus
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He just moves along like all right. Well Hillary sucks
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Haha, it's like that's not how a human would behave and then he would even reference it later on to show how much he's being
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Attacked all the time. It's like we even got hacked a while back. Do you know who that was?
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We thought it was Bob. Oh, yeah, the government he's gonna get into some suspect. Oh, yeah, and it's troubling
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Infowars is under sustained
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Attack across the board
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From our Facebook accounts to our Twitter accounts to our passwords into infowars
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To other attacks that are going on currently simultaneously
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Definitely a large coordinated attack and we are writing stories about it right now about 25 minutes ago
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A story went up on infowars.com where one of the hacks was successful
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We had it removed within
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11 minutes
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And of course had changed the particular passcode they hacked through and got David Knight's passcode
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But simultaneously got Paul Watson's code to his Twitter that account is currently hijacked
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We'll put Paul Watson's Twitter account prison planet up on screen for folks so they can see what's happening right now
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We are investigating
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Islamic training schools in the United States currently, of course
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And and we're on the ground yesterday and basically all hell's been breaking loose since that happened
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I told Biggs I had a bad feeling about it and just to get ready
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I'm the one that's sitting out there, but I told him yesterday at five o'clock
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I should get ready spider-sense says, you know, we got enemy fighters coming in watch your six
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There's a lot of Intel coming in right now. I basically already put my finger on what's going on here. So
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Because it was very simple PJ Watson tweeted out some bullshit and they were like we got a pretend that he got hacked
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The tweet that Paul Joseph Watson put out was about Erdogan. It was about how there was a u.s. Led coup
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And that Erdogan was taking shelter at a u.s. Air base
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Oh, so he participated in the fake coup narrative that Erdogan put out so that he could jail and arrest all of his
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detractors
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That might not be something that you want
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On your own belt, you might want to pretend that you got hacked on that one. Yeah Wow
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now
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Is that is that illegal?
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Well, I actually I don't know if these dates match up
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Like I don't know what the date is for like when that coup happened the fake coup and in
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Turkey
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Yeah, it is interesting that people still some people still believe that was a real coup
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Like if you see every action, I don't want is
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The timeline for that doesn't match up. That was 2016. I was in July of 2016
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So that that's why they had to cancel it
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Because he had already he'd already revealed the narrative. Now. This is a different
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Cancel it cancel his Twitter account. This is a different thing that he's evoking but still
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Dicey. Yeah, this seems like something that Paul Joseph Watson might have gotten a bad tip on as we know
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His DMS are wide open right and or at least they were at this point and we have repeated evidence of him
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Just taking anonymous sourced information and then writing about it on info wars
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Well, three million immigrants voted in the last absolutely three million illegal immigrants voted also from random dudes Twitter true
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so there's I I I think that what we're seeing here is a
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Little bit of ass covering. Yeah, and let's get that salute
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Let's get through this clip because Alex needs to make this needlessly convoluted
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You have to go back in time
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Here's an RT article a CNN article and a bunch of others. Let me put the pieces together for you first
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back in 2013 and 14 CNN and a bunch of other
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other
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globalist media operations got hacked
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Probably by Russians calling themselves the Syrian electronic army
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We know it was the Russian government that hacked and got the climate change emails where they were
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Coordinating with the UN and all the major professors and over a thousand colleges was 2000 plus how to engage in fraud
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How to hide the decline how to pass carbon taxes
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So again, the Russians blew that wide open. Nope, probably the Russians in fact, they pretty much admitted
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It's it's Russians involved in the quote Syrian electronic army because it deals with Syria
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Sending out the Intel that our government was funding radical al-nusrah al-qaeda groups that became Isis. That's now mainstream news
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That's not what happened won that info war in concert with American patriots that will not engage in treason. Oh
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Do you see what's going on here? So he is a good now supports
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Russia
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Attacking the American government. Oh, yeah, but not the Patriots anxiously, right? Right now
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he
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whatever the reality is
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He is totally cool with Russians carrying out massive hacking campaigns and using said
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Information to influence people. Well, yeah as we've seen from I don't see why there because a couple of those things that he's bringing up
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We're propaganda campaigns. The Russians did engage absolutely, so he is totally on board with them
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using fake information
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which is which is fascinating because that means that he
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believes in
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global
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Cooperation and organization to root out the globalists. Yeah
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interesting
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So there's a lot of the global there's a lot of hypocrisy flying around it
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I've never seen that before from Alex. This is incredibly weird to me
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like it's just it it belies so many other things that he claims now, which is like
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Russia doesn't hack people. They don't have all this stuff is bullshit. Yeah, you know that they do
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Yeah, you absolutely know that you they do even if they didn't when you said they did you know that they do and you're in
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Favor of it. Yeah, like all this stuff is it's crazy
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It's absolutely nuts this Syrian electronic army right I have to do with this hack on you
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Are you now saying that Russia is hacking you? Is that what you're saying?
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I what is the case? I don't know. I don't know. Do you think that is that is interesting that so many?
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Patriots of America thrilled Russia. Absolutely happy with another country taking us over, right?
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It's a very fascinating patriotic argument. Well, it's just because I mean
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I'm
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Starting to believe that about 90% of the people who think that way
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Think exactly the same as Alex. Yeah, they think that our country is taken over by globalists
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black person was elected right and that Russia is the are the only people who could save us because they have kicked out the
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Globalists already and it's all a cockamamie line of bullshit most likely put out by
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Russia it's very interesting the idea that Putin kicked out the oligarchs alone is crazy. I mean
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Maybe he kicked out the other
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Oligarchs the one who the ones who wouldn't play ball
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Yeah, exactly the ones who wouldn't give him a cut but I'll be goddamn if he doesn't have a whole network of his own
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Oligarchs exactly. Yeah, it's so stupid. Alex can't not know that he just doesn't like the liberal order of the world
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Yeah, he doesn't like the idea that freedom is coming in the shape that it has right
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He doesn't like the idea that trans people are okay in society because they're fucking weird. Yeah
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He's it does absolutely against freedom for anybody who's not white. Yeah, or Christian or Christian or
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well
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Protestant male now he's now he's against the Catholic Church, of course because of the the cool Pope what male to oh, yeah
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Absolutely, not just absolute not just man. He doesn't want to kill all women or anything like that
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But he wants women to subjugated. Well, he wants them to fill the exact role that works for a man, right?
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Subjugated subjugated is a you know, there's a lot to unpack in that word
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It's it's accurate but it it's more you need to play the role that we need you to play, right?
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And I guess that is subjugation, but it's it was fucked. He wants
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It's perfect order and he knows that the only way to get that is by bringing liberty and prosperity back
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Right or totalitarian. Maybe it's fascism to me
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Maybe could be that those two things are capable. So I mean that freedom is oftentimes chaotic
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I suggested in that last clip like hey, what is it? Is it the the Russians is the Russians hacking you now Alex?
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What's the narrative and I it's actually CNN. I should tip my hand. I actually know what his very and then it's not CNN
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Although they are Isis, of course
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And I was engaging in my patriotic duties just as an American to not work with al-qaeda
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And working with Colonel Schaeffer and many others on off-air
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Generals you name it just gonna leave it at that retire generals
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This is real war folks, this is against the globalists that are playing all our countries off against each other. They're very high-level chess
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Definitely not
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We knew at the time that we could get the military informed of this it would all implode
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Turning the Christian areas of Syria over to al-qaeda so they could slaughter everybody by the hundreds of thousands
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okay, and so as
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The Syrian electronic army continued to hack CNN or to have other hundreds of publications and post info
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Wars comm articles and you can look it up. That's who they posted
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mainly
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BBC NPR
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Skype, I mean they Facebook accounts Twitter accounts. This is now the counter response to that
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Directed out of Turkey Isis connected groups to go in and post this info to discredit info wars
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And also then blame it on the Syrian electronic army, which hasn't happened yet
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Okay, but that is my belief where this is coming from and what we've expected to happen
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So, okay, so it's Isis who hacked him right, but they didn't hack him. They just posted info wars
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I know that was the Syrian electronic army who he knows is Russia. So the Syrian electronic army
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They hacked CNN and what-have-you and posted info wars articles in an attempt to spread the truth
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So they were on the good side of things. That was wrong. Okay, that was Russia. Now. Okay, this is a backlash to that
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Okay, this is a group trying to pretend to be the Syrian electronic army
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But it's actually a turn of Turkey who is affiliated with Isis, right?
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But doesn't he not know that so many of his boys have a huge connection to Turkey now
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That's gonna be a problem in a few clips. That's what I was gonna say that is going also again not al-qaeda
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No, not al-qaeda. No, not even a little bit out very simplistic view of although it is our patriotic duty to not work with
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Okay, absolutely. I think that's true. I agree with him there when he's right. He's right
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You got to give him that looking at you guy whose name I forgot that was in the news for a long time
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What's that guy's name?
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Reagan no that guy that white guy who went over and joined al-qaeda and there's a big media sensation for a little
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Yeah, I remember that. I remember that guy's name. Whatever happened to that guy. He's probably alive probably alive
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So in this next clip Alex Jones discusses the actual article that was put up on infowars by this alleged hacking which again
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I don't believe happened
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Here's the headline
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coup d'etat in Turkey er gun flees the u.s. This is the hacked article
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That was put up by
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Someone not in infowars bullshit
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And then of course I began running around 15 minutes to airtime like a chicken when my head cut off
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Saying check every account Facebook Twitter because we're we're distributed over a lot of different platforms show that we can survive attacks
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You know you you want one mole five others pop-up you whack five of those 15 more pop-up by the way
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I'm gonna launch a lot of new Facebook's Twitter great
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I think he's talking about a Hydra not whack-a-mole totally whack-a-mole doesn't multiply
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I don't recall how to recall him whack-a-mole game where it's like it's been a long time fuck you
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And it just keeps getting larger and larger. Oh, no
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It's the infinite whack-a-mole the prairie is spreading
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That's it. That's fine. He loses track of metaphors a lot, but
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like
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This doesn't strike me first of all at all outside of the normal for something they would post oh absolutely
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They're their journalistic standards are in the toilet and have been for nigh on two decades you you assume that they had
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Journalistic standards at one point well no I mean if you have no standards. That's a standard
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You know that's what I'm getting at all right, so like the idea that they would post this and be like oh
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Shit that someone fucking with us or something like that is entirely possible now secondarily
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The idea that Alex would be running around trying to sort this out investigating it pre-show then get on air and be calm like this
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He's not yelling. He's not making threats. This isn't how Alex Jones behaves
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He only would behave like this if he had a narrative in place, and he knew nothing was going on
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This is this is bullshit. This is a man acting
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Absolutely he would not furthermore. It's so easy to figure out if it's an actual info wars article read it
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They all sound the same. Yeah, they're all written by the same voice, so there is some journalistic standards
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No, there's one guy writing all of those editorial who doesn't know how to read that's not true
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They have a couple writers who don't know how to read that's true, so in this next clip we find out
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What is also I love his defensive like we have it distributed across multiple fat platforms to protect against attacks, right?
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And then he goes on to say why that is a bad idea because the attacks only multiply well
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He's like we've we are expanded across all of those so we have to go check them you take down one and five pop up
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And then you take down five 15 pop up which of course makes it the most safe no no no
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He's saying that he has a lot of tentacles again. That's what he's saying
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He's saying you take down one of our tentacles five of our tentacles pop up not five attacks. Oh, I got that backwards
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Yeah, no no no that's okay, but either way. It's stupid. That is very dumb so in this next clip
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We get to learn what exactly happened with this hack. What was what was taken in?
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Our Twitter account is locked down right now, but we're in contact with them
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They didn't successfully take over the real Alex Jones
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But they successfully tried to change the passcode so many times it locked out doesn't sound like a success
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He forgot and by the way these are long passcodes. These are not our dates of birth
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Dates of birth or or or or middle names another classic questions banks ask you
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So they clearly got a breach
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Into someone's computer his birthday in there
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That had some of the passcodes almost now again all the other financial stuff, but things are walled off between
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Triple security and run by major companies, so that's totally separate and not part of that. That's all secure and safe
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Now we're really going into the info war against these people
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So I think that as opposed to the past 20 years right where they have not been really into the info war
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We've been despite how many times he's been saying that they're really we're dabbling in the info war for the last one maybe in the info
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We're now well like I just don't I don't
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Believe this at all of course not it's very convenient that like there's a high level
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Super organized
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Cyber attack going up against him and everything important
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I can't get to that now it it doesn't because like if all you did in doing was putting up a fake
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Article right that's the worst hacking outfit in history totally and real hackers can get into banks
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It's not like oh there. It's triple protected by a bank. They can even get into credit agencies State Department
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Yeah, you know it's it's not it. This just doesn't ring true
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It smells real bad in terms of like the truth test
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So I told you that I think that he's lying because they put up a bad article
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And they want to pretend that they didn't now conspiracy theory, okay?
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was
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PJW just guessing really well and making up a narrative that
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Turkey was eventually going to have a fake coup or
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Did Erdogan get the idea from PJW?
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I don't know maybe it's because that was the that was the fake propaganda that they put out
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Maybe it's neither. I don't know or both. I don't know I can't unpack that although
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I do like it as a conspiracy theory absolutely. I like cuz cuz PJW must be in
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In contact with Manafort and those guys and Flynn probably maybe they leaked it to him
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Yeah, maybe that that or maybe he put it out, and they were like you got to take that down
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I would like for no reason at all
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I would like for you to hold on to this conspiracy theory especially the direction you're going okay for the next
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four clips
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Because we are going to get to
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My conspiracy theory okay, and they dovetail
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There's a piece of information that you're missing okay. That is crucial. I gotta follow the money
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No, okay, you gotta follow the lie the hack yeah the the hacky lie so like I said
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I think they're covering for this story, but then they also want to add gravitas to a guest that they're having because
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Coincidentally, he's a cyber security expert. No. Oh it is a Turkish whistleblower. Oh, that's not good
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They happen to have a guy on who is
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allegedly
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He works on getting people out of Isis in Turkey
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Which is very convenient for Alex's theory about who is fake hacking him?
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It's weird that he came on to talk about sex scandals in the Vatican though. That's a really strange turn for me
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It's a very strange turn for the Turkish Isis guy. It's not Leo's Agami in a wig. Oh, okay, but
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So Alex I apologize for that hacky accent, but it had to be done
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Beautiful the he has this guy he ends up coming on over Skype
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And it's terrible because the Skype connection doesn't work
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But he also has the guy who hooked up Alex with this Turkish whistleblower in studio
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And he's a guy named Pat Riley. Nope
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The one from the maya reheat this time
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It's a guy named Kevin I landed LeBron now, I'm gonna land Turkey
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It's a guy named Kevin booth, and we don't know who that guy is yet, and I will find out
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Kevin booth who's had major documentaries air on Showtime
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and on HBO and
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on other major networks
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documentary filmmaker
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Also film producer good friend of mine. I've known for years bill Hicks producer
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He was already gonna be in studio today, and he has a major
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Turkish insider who's been tracking
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Isis and the government working with Isis this gentleman is now in hiding has had to flee Turkey
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He is going to be joining us with Kevin via Skype, but Kevin booth will be in the in studio
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So the reason that I am bringing this up and the reason that I think that this is more
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More evidence that this whole hack thing is fake. Uh-huh is if we recall about
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Let's say five six months ago. We did an episode where Alex Jones clearly faked a GoFundMe
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Being taken down. Oh, yeah, yeah with Craig the Sawman Sawyer and his attempt to out
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Pedophiles or whatever their plan was they put on a piece of theater
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Where in they knew that they needed to amp up the reality in quotes of what they're doing
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And so they have this external stimulus
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Which is they put up something on GoFundMe that they knew would be taken down
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They take it down, and then they're like what terms did we violate right?
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It's clearly the globalists trying to write this down whereas we went through the terms of service and found at least six infractions
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It was at the very least it was extra judicial extra judicial
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Vigilantism right so they which GoFundMe does not usually support like you can't put up a GoFundMe for
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Getting together a posse to round up the environments right so they
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They have a tradition of doing this and I think especially because we see no evidence of it
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And Alex drops the narrative pretty fucking fast
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I think that this hack is fake in order to be like we're having this Turkish
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Whistleblower on and they want to take us down right?
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Because we're having him on this is too dangerous
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And the Turkish guy is hiding from Isis or he's hiding from Turkey hiding from fucking everybody
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Okay, he's hiding now. He's but not in fours. They do say that he's in the United States, okay?
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And so that's fine, but here's the next is he working with Al Qaeda. I don't know here's the next clip where Alex
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Talks about how under attack he is in general and we have just seen
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unprecedented
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immunization and lies against in full wars the last few months and
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People pat me on the back that no means a man. I'm really sorry, but they're attacking you on local news local radio local paper
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I turn on national TV. They're attacking you man
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It must be rough must be rough at an occupied government sworn to enslave the people doesn't like me. I absolutely love it I
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Came to fight
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So I want to tell you what I think is happening here
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For 20 years there was a tacit agreement in the world
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it was an uneasy truce between Alex Jones and the world and that was
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Stay in your lane and some people will make fun of you, but we'll leave you alone
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There was just a thing where scream about conspiracies scream about chimeras all you want, right?
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You're fun some people will enjoy you and they'll be led down the wrong path, but we don't care
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Whatever right a couple months before this point at the end of 2015
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Alex Jones starts to get far more active in terms of
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Politics than he has been in the past
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He's screamed about politicians in the past
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But there's never been what appears to be coordination between him and people involved with a presidential candidate
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And the Russian government well, there's that too, but I think it's more like
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People started to see like Roger Stone coming on his show
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Yeah, Trump himself coming on his show. Yeah, and people were like, alright, we got it. Let's get the whack-a-mole metaphor back
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We got to knock this one down
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We people started fortunately in that situation the infinite whack-a-mole did work out somewhat
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But like I think it's just that he breached the social contract that he may be unaware of that
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It's like just just don't just fucking stay over there and we were fine, right?
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He started to get involved in the real world, right?
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And then people were like we got to pay attention to you and we're gonna make fun of you and we're pissed off about it
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Right because we didn't want to be doing this right Alex. We let you stay over there. Yeah, you were fine
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Yeah, now you walk over here and we gotta we gotta do something for 20 years. You've been spouting
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borderline to overt racist
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Bullshit, right your worldview is clearly based on archaic anti-semitism. Yeah, but we've let it go
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Oh, we've allowed you to make a lot of money
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Just just stay over there and now he's creeping in creeping in
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Starting to affect things and people are like shut it down. That's not being attacked necessarily
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That's just like you're out of your depth. Yeah, and unfortunately that's trying to be put back in your place
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Yeah, and unfortunately, I don't think people did it the right way and it's led us to where we are now
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Yeah, it was very unsuccessful
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Yeah, but we knocked down one of him and then two more popped up and then four more popped up
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There's a more pop. There was such a better way we could have
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16 more popped up and then yeah two more popped up
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There's a better way to diffuse Alex and we I think missed our opportunity
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I still think we might be able to make some headway but back then it would have been much more effective
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Yeah, be that as it may here is the clip where we find out it is it is very similar how we're dealing
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Have you noticed that every single time I set up a clip you interrupt me? Yes, it's
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Fantastic. It's my favorite part. It's a little bit frustrating. I know
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Conversationally, it's a little frustrating. What I mean you did this show alone. Do you prefer Cthulhu?
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Didn't know. Oh my god, Dan didn't interrupt as Dan you prefer Cthulhu. It's not that I prefer
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It's that there are pros and cons to each. Oh, there's good people
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I
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Just say it it's it's interesting that the way we deal with the disinformation crisis is the exact same way we're dealing with
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Hurricanes and the earthquakes in Mexico and all of this stuff is we could have
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Stopped it. Yeah, we could have gotten there earlier. We could have prepared for all of these things
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We all knew that this type of shit was going to go down and instead we're waiting until the catastrophe hits and now we're trying
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to go back and
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Actually do something about it when it's too late right like America is just complacent as fuck
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Yeah, there's something to that
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It's good point worth interrupting my introduction. Thank you. Thank you
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Dan so in this next clip Alex gets down to who he thinks you didn't mean that be
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again
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They get down to that Alex who he thinks is behind the attack his theory and it's wild
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info Wars is
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Investigating David Knight myself Joe Biggs the Gulan schools that get billions of dollars of US tax money
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Their estimated wealth is between 25 and 50 plus billion dollars globally
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They're based out of Turkey their entire board is in Turkey. They get 500 million a year plus from Texas taxpayers
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They in charter school money and you think you're sending your kid to a regular school. It is a
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Islamic caliphate they actually teach the caliphate
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Then they have Rachel Maddow and everybody get up on MSNBC and say there is no caliphate. There are no schools
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There are no training facilities really
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We just had one in Houston this weekend with our drone flying over. It looks like a 5a high school
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How's that Joe Biggs has got his report almost ready with all that
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so
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Is it connected to that?
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Or is the successful hack of info Wars to put up a fake story that?
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The president of Turkey Ergun fled to a US airbase in a coup in Turkey because the Gulan schools are fighting with him
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He's showing him here
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The head of Gulan hasn't shown up to trial dates court dates. There's an arrest warrant out. I
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Mean, that's just the Arab world folks. They just fight with each other
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Constantly and there's no civilization because everyone is scrabbling for power
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Constantly instead of just trying to plant crops or invent things or build things, right? That's uh,
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That's that's that's his
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Summation of modern society. Yeah, Muslims are always fighting. Come on. We get it
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You got to start planting crops and inventing things. Come on Muslims. So
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Alex is
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On real shaky territory here. Oh, oh, is he well, he just say that one it's Erdogan
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Right Erdgan right Erdgan air gun. Did he just say that he is suing?
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Schools in America. No, that is that
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Turkey I think or Erdogan is suing the Gulen people
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Uh-huh, the Gulen movement cuz they're a caliphate movement, which they're not no
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I mean, I would assume not they're there they do have an a piece of it
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That is outreach with they have a lot of schools that they've established charter schools
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there's about a hundred and twenty of them in the United States and
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Here here's here's what they would that they say about them in terms of the Islamic aspect of it
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2008 article in New York Times said that Pakistan in Pakistan
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they encourage Islam in their dormitories where teachers set examples and lifestyle and prayer and
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Describe the Turkish schools as offering a gentler approach to Islam that could help reduce the influence of extremism
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However, schools are not for Muslims alone and in Turkey the general curriculum for the network schools prescribes one hour of religious instruction
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Per week while in many countries the schools do not offer any religious instruction at all with the exception of a few imam
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Hatip schools abroad and not in the United States these institutions can thus hardly be considered Islamic schools in a strict sense
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Oh, is it because it would be considered illegal in the United States?
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I think it might be I think you might be able to sue for that one
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No, but it does give a great appearance of that and with Alex Jones. He's all about headlines, right?
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Here instance, right? Right. That's I mean, I don't like charter schools. No. No, there's a lot of prefer
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I would prefer we didn't have privatized schools at all. But you know, yeah, absolutely
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Also the the ones that are in America, there's 120 of them in 25 states. There's no formal networking of the schools
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So they're not even collected together. They don't really even work together
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So I mean not in public not formally not in not in the public eye
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but if you're gonna if you're gonna start a caliphate you got to start putting little pockets everywhere now and then
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Later, you activate those pockets. That's bullshit. But the bigger issue is
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What's that Mike Flynn general Flynn?
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Oh, no was being paid by Erdogan or the government of Turkey to try an extradite Goolan
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Yeah, that sounds exactly like what I remember about that or omitted it from his clearance forms
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Right. He was paid a lot of money to try and do this illegally because it would be illegal to extradite this guy
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Yeah, he is the one who in 2016
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Uh, Erdogan blames for the fake coup that Erdogan used to strangle hold of power
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No, of course jail all sorts of intellectuals and journalists. Yeah, and Alex
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Cultural Revolution 2.0, baby. What's Alex doing? Uh
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Ooh, I think he's given him cover and saying that
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He's the bad guy
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Mm-hmm. Yep
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Interesting. I can't imagine why interesting. Does he know Flynn at this point? Yeah, he does
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He loves Flynn at interesting. He loves him. I think there's something suspicious going on here
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He believes that Flynn is the person who has spoken truth to power about how we are funding Isis, of course
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Because Mike Flynn is crazy and he's crazy in the same way that Alex is. Yep
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This is really a big problem the fact that he's blaming why he's trying to pin the blame on this on the Goolan people
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the Goolan
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Organization that's who he's saying is probably behind these hacks, which I don't believe are real
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That's fucked up. That's really fucked up. It's very fucked up. It's it's
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Alex is so tied into all of this shit. Yeah
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He's so tied into it. Mm-hmm. How is it that we're getting an angle on this?
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This should not be something we do we're supposed to be talking about fucking chimeras, dad
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I know why is it that we're getting to the bottom of Flynn's traitor is we're not really getting to the bottom of it
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But we're seeing indications. We're getting a view of it
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Well, and I think that there are probably you know paper trails and and much firmer evidence
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but you see Alex Jones is almost like a hinge point where like
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You really connect to this anti Goolan propaganda to a guy who's super pro-russia
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Yeah, you got Trump. Uh-huh Pro Erdogan Pro Putin
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It's like it's like a clearinghouse of all this shit
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Yeah, it's very bizarre and I do think that it's fucked up that more people aren't doing deep dives into this
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I think we should be doing deep dives into a lot of this weird conservative
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propaganda
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What dyad quite frankly someone
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Soros give me some goddamn money
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Like I could do this I could do much deeper dives into this if I had the fucking time if I didn't have to go
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to work
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But be that as it may that's a complaint for another day
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So now at this point he brings in Kevin Booth who as we heard
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Was is a filmmaker and he worked with Bill Hicks wink wink formerly Kevin Federline wink wink you worked with Bill Hicks
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I get it wink. I get it. He has I get it Dan
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He has a couple times called Alex bill on my guy. I get it wink. I get it Dan Dan
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I get it eyes going crazy here. I I'm watching your eye
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I don't think that Alex Jones is Bill Hicks, but I think that they are playing that up quite a bit. It's hilarious
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They don't do that in this episode, but the one bit they do that is actually subtle and funny
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It's not subtle if you see the the actual times they do it
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I mean, but the point no, of course not actually doing it but the point that it is rare and
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Silly and they don't they don't it's it's pretty subtle. So it's solid Booth comes in and
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Oh boy
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this next clip
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It connects a couple of dots
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Accidentally do you would never pick up on if you weren't paying attention and it's it's troubling. Oh boy
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You know a lot has changed. I mean we just got back from the Russian Embassy and in Washington DC
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Uh, Robert Steele helped us get in there believe it or not. You know, Robert Steele
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Yeah, you get him back on and
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He introduced us to a former KGB guy
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Oleg Kalugin ever heard of hell, yes, and the reason we
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Linked up with him is because he's the one who was known for the Bulgarian umbrella and all that stuff
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We were trying to tie in all these stories
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but on all these things connect and then Robert ended us getting us into the Russian Embassy and
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So we've actually been meeting with Putin's press secretary. We're that close to getting in a meeting with Putin
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I'm not sure it's gonna happen or not, but we're we're in the door
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And so we're not you know, we're by no means out to make a movie to make Putin look bad
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I mean, that's also not good
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You know what that implies right there that end of the clip
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That implies that Kevin Booth knows that he shouldn't come on to Infowars and say negative things about Putin
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True, it implies some foreknowledge that that is not what we do here. Also, it implies that you have to make Putin look bad
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Right when in reality you can just look at Putin now
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The other thing the thing that I was referencing the people who don't understand what's going on wouldn't notice is that he says that
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Robert David Steele got him into the Russian Embassy. Yeah, that's not good
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Robert David Steele must have connections at the Russian Embassy who doesn't well
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That's troubling. Who among us can say that we don't have connections? Because Robert David Steele believes that the
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Zionists are trying to destroy him and that the globalists have Mars bases. He's that guy
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He's come on Alex Jones's show and now in present day in 2017
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Alex thinks that he might have been trying to set Alex up. Yeah, of course with that Mars base stuff
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Yeah, so that's that's the guy who connected Kevin Booth with the Russian Embassy. That's wild
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I mean, that's that's obvious. So now what's the Bulgarian umbrella? I don't know. I don't care. Okay
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I don't particularly care but he did. I mean, is it like a MacGuffin and a James Bond movie? Maybe it's probably a dish
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Probably some sort of
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fish based
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Yeah, it's a it's a baked good. Yeah. Have you ever had a Bulgarian umbrella? So good delicious
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You got to go to that shop down on the corner. It's like a bear claw, but you hold it over your head while you eat
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It yeah keeps you dry. It's very dry. It's very dry
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So in the next in this next clip we find out how Kevin Booth met his guest who he's bringing on to Alex's show
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I mean, this is some powerful info tell us about this guest that's coming on a little bit later
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well, once again, Robert Steele connected me with
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Professor I'm at Yala. He is recently had to flee the country
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Because he was interrogating
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former Isis fighters Isis fighters that have defected and
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Some people that he were involved with have been hunted down and murdered and so he decided he needed to leave
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He's in the United States right now
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So that narrows it down for the people who are trying to find him a little bit
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But at the other the other thing is like I don't I don't care now about this interview
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I don't I don't care at all. It has no credibility. It's someone who Robert Steele hooked you up with. Well, yeah, that's not good
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That guy is crazy
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Probably no, there's a high probability that he's crazy
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Strongly disagree. There's a there's a
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Strongly there's a chance. No that this guy is for real Robert Steele. No, oh the professor
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It's possible
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But unfortunately the interview ends up having a lot of tech difficulties and I didn't keep any of it
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Oh that sucks and because it's like I don't I don't care what this guy says because I'm willing to believe that yes
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There are Isis people in Turkey, of course, they're absolutely and I'm willing to believe that this guy
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Has worked with getting some to get out of Isis possible that has nothing to do with these substantive claims
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That Alex is making globalists hacked him, right? Because the former Isis people that this guy talked to in people
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Oh, that's right on behalf of ice or on behalf of the globalists
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They're all together. They're all together. I don't I can't keep it together. Well, I can't keep it together Dan
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Here is all I know is that dictators and fascism have taken over almost entirely
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yep, and here is Kevin booth talking about some pretty po Pro Putin stuff and Alex says something that's really dumb and
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It wasn't even our plan to go to Turkey. It wasn't even our plan to talk about terrorism
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It wasn't even our plan to talk about any of this. It's just where it led us. We're just following
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Let's be honest about three years ago
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You're we're out to dinner and you're like
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There's a total thug taking over and he's put all these mafias in and I said well, that's kind of true
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But I said you better see the West and Soros starting all this right? And so and you're like anyway, I've heard that
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Well, I don't worry. I'm gonna investigate it all. So we're not lionizing Putin. We're not lionizing Soros. The point is
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Don't you see how the West is starting a lot of this now? Yeah, absolutely
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So you have since you've investigated you've come around to that. Yes. Yes. It's not like I mean listen
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I made a film masters of terror basically accusing Putin of blowing up
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Apartment buildings that when he was vice president during the Chechen War he did popular support. I didn't say he did it
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I just said it was in the Moscow news that police caught
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At a fourth apartment building the FSB. That's the Federal Security Bureau planning bombs
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They said it was part of a drill other people, you know, what happened right after Putin took power in 2000
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I can't think started cracking down on the press really hard. So stories like that wouldn't come out. What? Yeah
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Jesus
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I'm just saying that the news reported it and it was true. Yeah to blame put all I know is Putin isn't attacking America
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Putin is is is actually the Russian government is under attack
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And so I don't want to have World War three with them
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We've actually gotten the band and here I go saying this name pussy riot is in our movie
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To tell the whole Russian story. It was quite a big deal to get them in the movie. I just like saying the name
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Well, whatever
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Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know about that
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I don't know. I don't know if it's a known CIA group, but we're still working on that
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But it's is there in our film. It's a known Soros front group. Yes. That's interesting. All right
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I would interview him great. Okay, let me see what the old
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geezers at the CIA are going we'll get young girls and give them a name and then they'll go into Russian and
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Putin will arrest him and he'll look like a thug. I mean the Russians are not buying any of it. Yeah
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Oh boy
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So if I understand the old geezers at the CIA's plan properly, they are going to fabricate
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the
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Complete and utter opposite of a boy band. Uh-huh and give them the name which
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Apparently the CIA thought of pussy riot, right?
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The old geezers at the CIA were like, I know pussy riot
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They're edgy pussy right these old guys at the CIA edgy that I mean
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Hey look unless unless what Lance Bangs is working there. Keep keep keep playing out your your thought
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All right, so then they do that
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pussy riot then
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What carries out the CIA plan of being all right at playing punk music
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But perhaps even better at social activism. Yes, they will play in a Russian Orthodox Church
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Mm-hmm Putin will then arrest them right for no reason. Mm-hmm, and then
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He will look like a thug, right?
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So the CIA put together an entire plan to turn people against Putin
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When they could have just like shown any number of situations where he has already acted like a free pre-existing ones
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Yeah, or just we could remind everybody about those apartment bombings. We could just do that. Um, but here's the thing
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Known Soros funded pussy riot. Also, he switches between CIA and Soros there
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Which makes me think he's just making stuff same thing. Just no it's not just making stuff up. I like that
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Kevin is like, well, we'll look into that with a clear. I don't know. That's dumb. Yeah, that's dumb
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We're not gonna look into that can't sign off on that Alex Alex. You're dumb
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the other thing that we need to talk about is that
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If you trace a line through the people that he says are Soros funded and Soros
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That he runs all of it. You'll notice that the
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impetus behind that is trying to take agency away from women and minorities
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That is why he does these things
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He says that pussy riot is run by Soros because it's unfathomable to him that women would have political ideas
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He would never be couldn't believe that they would of their own volition go out and do social activism
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Make themselves at great risk to try and help social change happen, right?
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He can't imagine that these African Americans that he obviously on some
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Visceral level thinks are dumb would get get together and protest
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For a bettering of their social situation. He can't imagine that
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So he has to believe that there is this shadowy old Jew that he thinks is a Nazi collaborator
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Who is directing all of it because they could never think of this on their own and that is
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Classically racist. It's classically
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Misogynistic it is just this idea that non-white males are
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It's impossible that they'd come up with this on their own. There's got to be a boogeyman
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There's got to be someone pulling the strings and that I mean that's something he does all the time
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Yeah
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It's a bummer if you give them
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Agency, then that means they have a point or you have to at least wrestle with their point as opposed to being like now
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CIA their CIA's by
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Soros is by one of the two gives a shit. It's proven don't prove shit
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Proved anything I've listened to ten months of Alex Jones's show. He hasn't proved anything not one thing
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It's infuriated to me
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He just says it's in the WikiLeaks or it's proven everyone knows the CIA's known that I have little birdies. Oh
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We've proven more I
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Think that's all you try and do it's frustrating. So that's the end of the 29th for our coverage. It's just
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There's no resolution to the hacking narrative. He just lets it drop and I again think it's
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Just a attention campaign. It's just him trying to make himself seem more important than he is, right?
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I just can't stop thinking about
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The writers room and the CIA when they're trying to come up with female punk band names for for a Russian group
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Uh-huh, like, you know, hey, let's go with
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Let's go with vagina dentata. Nah, that's already a movie. That's that's too bad. Let's go with
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vulva
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velvet beaver beat down
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Yeah
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Violent vulva. Yeah, there we go. That's better. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about that pussy riot doesn't even rhyme
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It's not even illiterate now. We're talking shit about there. Yeah, so damn it you old CIA fuddy duddies
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So we jump to the 30th and now I think we will see Alex Jones
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deciding
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Full hog to be a Trump guy. Okay, I don't think that there's ever a moment from everything that I've listened to
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I don't think that there's a moment where he says I
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Support Trump unequivocally. Uh-huh. I think it just happens. It just kind of grows
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It's just creeping but I think that December 30th. He knows I'm about to go on vacation
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It's the new year. It's the start of a new year
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let's fucking just do this launch a whole new narrative do this and then we can come back in the new year and
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Figure out how the figure out how it goes
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I'll have like you take the vacation and then you can really absorb the response from people and if it's super positive
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Then you come back and you're like we're full force going into this and if not
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You can come up with a way to get out of it. Yeah retcon things
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Absolutely, and at best you have like, you know, you have a couple days to come up with a narrative, right?
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You got a couple days for the writers to sit down and be like, here's the angle absolutely
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So here is I think the exact moment where Alex Jones realizes I'm on to something
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But when you say the US
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You mean the criminal State Department elements that are part of the long-standing coup over this country since 1913 of the financial system now
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They're just mopping up the states mopping up the families mopping up. What was left the Bill of Rights and Constitution
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I mean America our Republic was a big elephant to eat. I
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I didn't add anything to this pause. I didn't pause it. This is as long as it is. It's super long
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Still going. Mm-hmm
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One
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Fake laugh so that he just fake laughed at how long he forgot to talk
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That's how long the pause was and I can't stress this enough in the video. He's staring into the middle distance
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He's not doing anything. He's just like you
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Can see it's almost like a like his wiring didn't yeah work or something like it's yeah, it's pretty creepy
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Yeah, but anyway, here's how he comes out of that. I would say nine second pause probably maybe more
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Anyway, here's how he jumps back after the fake laugh
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You know what? I keep thinking about
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What keeps jumping into my mind while I'm covering all this other news
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The fact that the day after I said Trump you need to go after Hillary
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for lying and saying she was on the ground and
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Being shot at and attacked in Serbia and it was all lies
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And I know for a fact that was relayed directly to Trump he did it the next day wasn't on meet the press or something
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Oh bullshit. I'm not on a power trip. I'm just sitting here realizing what will happen if Trump goes after this
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I
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Know Trump's really smart. It's just surreal and we can write an article drugs links to it
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Trump retweets it I
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Want to get like all these top experts on you can't
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Every week and like have a roundtable discussion wargaming what we should do as the Patriots
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with the truth with the narrative to fight the globalist
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We're just generally educating the public about what's going on. We have an incredible track record our guests our experts do so two days after this
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Or maybe three days after this right at the beginning of the new year
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He has Harry Dent one of his economists on and he says that 2016 will be the worst year for the stock market ever
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dating back to the Great Depression
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2016 will be like we haven't seen since
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1930s. Oh, yeah, I remember that their
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Track record is amazing impeccable buy Max coins. They're gonna be worth a whole lot
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They're still worth like a penny their track record. Is that of Pentecostal doomsday preppers who continue to say that
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Mathematically the end of the world is happening here and then they're like no no
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No, it was actually the next one your track record is amazing
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If you think that everything is outstanding like if you think that oh, no, hold on
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We haven't seen the end of this yet. I'm just gonna adjust the prediction and like you're like you're describing with doomsday people
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Yeah, it's absolutely not the case
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You have made in the goalpost who's made discrete predictions that have all been wrong
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You and all of your guests Alex have the worst track record of any pundit
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I've ever heard now that's including rush that's including
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Savage that's including Glenn Beck even which does mean that their record is
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Impeccable in that they are consistent and they are always wrong
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Sometimes sometimes rush got it right there their info wars
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Promises you never to get it right ever their track record is
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Amazing in as much as it amazes one how wrong they can be every single step of the way
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It's really it's it's impeccable work
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So this next clip we take a break from anything serious and Alex Jones thinks about his daughters and how they're growing up
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Oh, no, I was thinking about
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watching my daughter's drive off to
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Camp and I am freaked out art camp
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This morning how it is the number one most dangerous thing in their life as I watched the
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Not art camp
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And I thought about them becoming 16 and cars and had a lot of anxiety about it because that's a real danger
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And
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I realized how we've just adapted to cars killing millions of people every year. I hold on not true. Hold on
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This metaphor is gonna get really weird
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But before we get into the metaphor
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I would like to explain to Alex that the reason that automobile deaths have gone down is
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regulation about
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refuse seat belt law refuse
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Ralph Nader's evil Dan
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emissions evil he's evil break standards
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Things that things things that just having cars that don't explode when you tap them in the back things that the government has imposed on
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The automotive industry let's say are the reason that those deaths have gone down
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Yeah
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And it's also why prosperity is gone you are against regulation and that is the thing that has going to protect your daughters
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Statistically now, let's get to your weird fucking metaphor
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And
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Now that's an example of how we just accept that our kids may go down to gather water at the waterhole and
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A saber-toothed tiger might jump out and eat them. That's true. We hope it doesn't happen
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We can't always go to the waterhole with them. I got to go out and hunt and I gotta let my daughters
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go down to the waterhole and
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Maybe get eaten
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That's a beautiful sentiment and I just handle that I compartmentalize that as a man because it's part of the environment
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Now sure, I try to make sure when they go to the waterhole that they always go with somebody an adult a younger male
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The younger male tells them don't wander off too far that's they don't always listen troubling
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Until they see someone get eaten by a big cat
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Gotta use your race memory. I don't see what you think is very serious concern for a pair
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That
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Made things crystal clear. That's very weird crystal clear metaphor very weird
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Why I think you could probably come up with a better
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Get the inherent misogyny in the younger male telling them not to wander off. He has no idea
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He just doesn't understand that at all
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Well and the idea that like I would I mean what he is saying if you parse through it is like I would prefer to
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Drive them around all the time because I know they can't handle it themselves, right?
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Because they're gonna get eaten by saber-toothed tigers right unless they see somebody get eaten by a saber-toothed tiger
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Well, that's where your race memory kicks
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It's like the reverse of the you got to let them touch a hot oven so that they'll know it's like no
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No, you touch the hot oven and burn the fuck out of yourself and then they'll be like, that's not a good idea
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Right, right. It's dumb. I think he's a weird parent for sure
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So now let's get back into politics. This is a troubling clip that he has on the December 30th show about Trump
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But I can tell you obviously talking to folks in the Trump camp. I'm gonna leave it at that
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and others
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Donald Trump is genuine and
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Actually knows that there is a plan to take over the country and set up tyranny and Trump wants to count on it
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And you see the relationship with Trump and Putin Oh
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You see Trump saying he wants to tax these big mega banks that are tax exempt away
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He's really going after the establishment now. So turns out that he followed through with all of that right Dan
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Yeah, he definitely doesn't propose a tax plan that gives billionaires and the oligarchs roughly two trillion dollars. Nope
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Nope, certainly didn't do that. Just last week now definitely doesn't do that. He's taxing the big banks
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He's got to take him down. He's drained in the swamp. He definitely didn't fill the swamp with more Goldman Sachs people
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well, and you see in this clip even as
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Early or whatever as December 30th 2015 Alex is keenly aware that Trump is
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Working with Putin. He says as much on his show and this awareness
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He has to have gotten from one of these birdies that he's talking to he's gonna leave it at that though. Got you better
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If you don't leave it at that you're gonna get fucking subpoenaed it was Donald Trump jr. We got a subpoena Alex
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That would be a delight. Well, he clearly has some awareness. Of course. This is right when these attacks were starting to happen
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Yep, the end of the summer to the winter of 2015 is when it ramped up
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That's when the influence campaign was getting going. Oh man, this is Alex knows about this
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Would he tell the truth under oath? Fuck? No, there's no chance. You're held in contempt. Of course. There's no chance
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No, but he's also a coward
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exactly, he would if you know what would happen you would probably request a
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Private interview, of course, and then he would lie about what he said in the interview when because he is like Roger Stone did last
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He would probably request a private interview and fucking spill guts because he'd be like, I'm in way over my head
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I'm starting to think the globalists aren't real shit. I've been led down the wrong path
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Why am I but if there's so many times where it's like, oh man, these guys could
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Accident like again if Larry Nichols accidentally takes down the GOP
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How fantastic would that be or if Alex Jones is the linchpin witness in the case to take down?
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Trump and impeach him. He how fucking delightful would that be? He'd be the easiest to flip
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Oh, of course. He'd he'd be super easy. He'd start crying and take his shirt off in the air view
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You know, of course if they gave him a public interview
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Yeah, he would grandstand and scream about 1776 and he'd have to be removed which would also be delightful
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There is no downside to subpoenaing Alex Jones. We call on the house
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Mueller no, no the House Intelligence Committee. Oh, that'd be fun. Put him in front of the Senate or that'd be fucking great
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Yeah, just Elizabeth Warren having to deal with. Oh, oh so good. I think Al Franken could handle it
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I think Al Franken would love it. So in this next clip
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Alex Jones has Paul Craig Roberts as his guest and we've talked about him a little bit in the past. He is a kooky weirdo
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and on this day
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Paul Craig Roberts in this clip. He expresses some suspicion about Alex Joe or not about Alex
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He loves Alex, but suspicion about Trump and then Alex assuages his fears and by doing so
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Accidentally reveals something that I think would also be germane to being subpoenaed
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So my point is that without a movement behind him without
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Policy knowledge and he's not really well informed
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He may not be able to do much even if he gets an office. Would you be willing to
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Talk to him and with some others and advise him on a policy group for his campaign
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to come in and help him because I agree he's very smart but has his
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Perspective and so he does really good to some areas not so good in others
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I mean, I mean obviously if he picked people from this political spectrum, then that would probably
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Obviously not scare the establishment as much either
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Of course, I'd be willing to talk to him, but they were just telling him I'm a conspiracy theorist
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I'm suspicious of 9-11. So he probably wouldn't talk to me. Probably call me a conspiracy theorist. Sir
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I don't think you understand Trump very well. Did you see the debate?
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Yeah, if you are suspicious of 9-11, my friend you are open and welcome. You're in like Mike Flynn. Absolutely. So you're in like the
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Like the Robert David Steele and the Russian Embassy Embassy. Well, the other thing there in that clip beyond the
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Not understanding that conspiracy theorists need apply is that Alex Jones reveals that?
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Whether it's real or not or Alex's perception. He has some sway over
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I can get you in contact with him. Yeah. Yeah, I send you the stone stones send you to him
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He has a line within the campaign. Uh-huh and may or may not be
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In in some way influential. I think that a lot of it is probably Alex's grandiosity
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Like overblown. I would say it's less that he's influential and more that he does have a line of communication
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Well and even beyond that take away the reality and the bluster whatever it may be
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What's most important is Alex Jones now identifies as being part of the campaign
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That's true because that is so true
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Alex Jones is using an interview with someone on his show to solicit policy advisors for Donald Trump
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Absolutely. So he now is not just someone who likes him. He is
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Ostensibly a piece of it and legally he is a part of the campaign now. No, I don't know about that
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But yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know where legal lines are drawn
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But in his head he is right and that's important because that's massive. That is a big change
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Yeah, because now Rand Paul can't do shit
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Well, he's not a part of Rand Paul's campaign. He never was never
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I don't think I've ever heard him say would you like to advise Rand Paul? I can connect you with it
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I don't think he's I don't think he's ever said I spoke to Rand Paul. Oh Rand's been on the show
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Okay, and they're friends. They probably had dinner once or twice
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That's fucked up. That's fucked up. That's sincerely fucked up
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So at the end of 2015, we see the evolution has completely taken place. Yeah, we finally done now on board
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He's now in the Trump campaign. I have two more clips to play before we get out of here for this investigation
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Uh-huh. The first one
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The second one is a fucking huge fucking I don't even know how to describe it
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It's such a punchline, but the first one Alex Jones has an interview with Seymour Hersh on this episode on the 30th
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Sigh, Hersh. Yeah, who we've discussed in the past has often been tricked by fake intelligence
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He has some sourcing issues, but he has also broken some massive stories, right? Can't take that away from him
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He's the one who when he's talking is like I don't have to tell the truth
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Well, he's writing he's like I should probably tell the truth, right?
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He hides a little bit of that the context of that that statement that he's made
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Behind an idea that like when I'm speaking I can fudge
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Truths in order to protect information or something like that, but that doesn't hold water for me. Of course not
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So they have an interview and really what I think is probably I mean Seymour Hersh is big scoops and big like journalistic
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Accomplishments are pretty deep in the past. I I think he might be now at the point where he believes a lot of nonsense and
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Might be crazy. Yeah, and here is the clip
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I'm gonna play from the interview that they have that leads me to believe that this dude might be nuts
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Well, you remember the president the current president joke that if you know, his daughters are getting to be of dating age
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I mean look there's nothing wrong with humor, but you have to sort of
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It was at an one of these annual meetings where the National Union the Press Club give it the White House Correspondents Dinner
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Which I think is sort of a scandal the press all like to see which guy can be at their table
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which person from the government and it's sort of like
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Kumbaya, you have the president actually said that guys better watch
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When he's there dating his daughters, I know a very attractive woman young woman
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He said they better watch out because you can always schedule a Jones strike. I thought that was Wow
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Are you kidding me?
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You know, that's over the line. It seems to me. It's not professional. Okay. Well
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Hall right, right
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I mean it is it is super troubling because
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We're joking about the fact that he has the power of life and death over innocent people
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Which he has exercised many times in the past, right? But in that context
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Fuck off see more. It's still it's still a funny joke
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It's just like it is troubling in the way that it is
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It is such an open secret that are that our president
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Literally orders extra do dish extra judicial. You can't say that word today. I can't I don't know what it is. Yeah, but like
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Listen, it's gallows humor to an extent. Absolutely and Alex doesn't understand what gallows humor is. He thinks it's Hirsch
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No, but look
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The correspondence dinner is always hosted by a comedian
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I don't understand. There's a lot of comedy that takes place at the correspondence dinner
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Also whether or not it's Obama didn't write his own jokes. Okay, I probably wrote some of them
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He didn't write his own jokes. He has writers probably. Okay. No, he absolutely has writers hair
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I do he's not a comic. I know that's what I'm saying. He didn't even write that joke
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Why do you care cuz he didn't even write the joke, but do you know you don't think that's actually a negative for him?
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No, every president has I mean if you're gonna blame him for the joke
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You're gonna have to the writer of the joke. You're you're pointing a finger at Hirsch not Obama. Yeah, exactly
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I thought this was your comedian coming out like like he didn't even write his own fucking jokes. Yeah, that's what I thought
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This is Betty White's roast all over again. I sincerely can't write a one-liner to save her life
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I sincerely thought that's what you were doing. Why would I do that? Because you're a fucking comedian
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Let's be honest Obama has pretty good timing. He delivered. Well, he's got a good delivery
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So but the the thing that I I'm getting at more is that Seymour Hirsch is
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Taking what was very clearly a joke and being like this is troubling. Yeah, this is very unprofessional
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No
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You're not telling a joke is not unprofessional. You're not you're not serious
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You're not a serious investigative journalist if that is something that is holding you up
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I mean, I recall that I recall that narrative or I recall that criticism at the time
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And that was also a hacky that was also a tree Glenn Greenwald take on it as well
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Well hacky punditry exactly. I'm not saying I'm not saying you know
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Glenn Greenwald doesn't have his Seymour Hirsch moments
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But he has also broken some huge stories Allah see Seymour Hirsch reality winner. Yeah, for example
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Oh boy, he broke that story. You know what I'm saying?
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They broke it the point that you make about
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Drone strikes not being a laughing matter is valid
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Seymour Hirsch's complaint is not yeah. So I agreed anyway, we have one more clip on this
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We have seen that Alex Jones is now entirely in Trump's camp put the mic down for this clip. Okay, because
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He accidentally says the truest shit I've ever heard at the end of this December 30th
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Okay, and now of it. This is such a bummer Matt Drudge, you know helping link to our stories. I
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Guess drugs have been looking to us for ten years or more but more intensely lately wonder why
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And it's because he's on a journey getting more sophisticated and awake. I'm way more awake than I was ten years ago
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That's not why Trump. I
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Mean, let me tell you
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If Trump isn't sincere behind the scenes
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Then I've been fooled
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I think Trump could be dangerous for the wrong advisors. I think Trump is a wild man
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Trump is definitely his own person and Trump does not like watching this country get messed up
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He kind of thinks of it as like, you know part of himself
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It's loyalty and a lot of these sociopaths. Oh, you're loyal to the country. You're loyal to rules
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You're just a week cuz you're loyal. No
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No loyalty is an ingrained genetic trait to not live
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That's not what loyalty is that's not what loyalty is
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No, no, do you not hear that? No, that's such race bullshit. I don't think it is. Are you shitting me?
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I don't think it is I come on
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I I think that you could make an argument that it is but I think it's a little soft and it's unnecessary
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Because let's just we already have plenty of race bullshit on him, right?
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Yeah, it's a stretch when you don't really need to go that far
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But the other thing is like that's not what loyalty is. It is not an ingrained desire not to live in squalor
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Yes, it is not what loyalty is. I've read the dictionary the saddest fucking sentence
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I've ever heard is Trump is for real or I've been fooled and I don't get fooled very often when we have a
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Long history of him just getting fooled. He's the most foolable person there's ever been so he's so foolable but
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like if you really break down one of the one of the
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parts of logic and studying logic is
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It's about truth. It's about truth preservation
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That's what the main emphasis of sentential and predicate logic is about right?
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so whenever you have a sentence that has an or in it when you have a
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Disjunction we have a or B that sentence is always true as long as one of those things is
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Okay, both can be true. But as long as one is true that baby's true. Trump is real or I've been fooled
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That is a true fucking sentence. You better believe it. That's so sad
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That's so sad
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Alex is so dumb. It's that's that's that's all Trump supporters at this point
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They all thought he was real. Yeah, and they were all fooled now
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They were fooled by a con man
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Right the dumbest people the people who have been fooled by different Republican con men over the or George
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Bush or these tax cuts are gonna make the middle class explode or they're stupid or people who are fooled by Reagan's voodoo dynamics
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stupid the people who fooled by Rick by fucking Nixon
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stupid every single one of these fucking people has been stupid for
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60 years or Alex Jones's friend who got fooled multiple times by the Nigerian. That's true. That's
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You're right. Alex is number two. Yeah, there's Alex is in second place. There's all yeah
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It was always a bigger idiot just a fucking bummer. So now the where we are in this investigation
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We we jumped ahead and we found it. We found the point the hinge and the jump off
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Yeah, this is where I agree shit gets very real
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And like like we've even said though, he's still I mean he's fucking on board. Yeah, he thinks he's part of the campaign
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Yeah, he's dumb, but he's still not crazy right or he's crazy, but he's not that crazy
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He's not the crazy. He's not unleashed so to speak and so we will pick back up the investigation
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At least for the next couple months
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Barring a nuclear winter we will pick it up at the beginning of 2016
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And see what happens and see where we go in this second phase of the investigation
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Now that when does Alex lose his mind we've figured out that he joined up with team Trump out of ego
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Because he thinks he's a part of it
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yeah, because he's being lied to by Roger Stone and Steve pachannik right and
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because
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So that mystery is solved I don't yeah, I don't think anybody in the world quite frankly any journalist
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Anybody who covers stuff like this outside of you and me and everybody who's listened to all of our episodes
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I don't think anyone understands this nearly as fully as we do a lot of people think like why did Alex Jones join team?
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Trump they're both bigots. He's crazy. Yeah, and there's some truth and that's what we originally thought we thought
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bigotry money and
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What else you thought payoff? I thought I thought payoff for sure
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Well, but I mean there all those things are little tiny pieces of it, but I don't think I don't think that
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Of people outside of the knowledge fight sphere really get the the Russian influence
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Well, there's that and then also just the celestial body rights at play all these little things add into it
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but the things that are the most important are Alex's ego and Russia mm-hmm and
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It's a bummer I wish more people understood that but now what's most important to us is figuring out where he forsakes all else and
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Becomes only about Trump because at this point still talking about race memory, right?
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He's still talking about how he's scared about his kids driving and some of that will probably still always be there
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Right, but at what point is it like until his kids get eaten by a saber-toothed tiger
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But no, I mean what point does he say fuck you Ted Cruz? You're not smart. Yeah
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Is it just when Trump insults him? I don't know. We got to find out so that'll be the next stage of this investigation and
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Let's get it
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All right, let's do it. Oh guys any thoughts. Um
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Do you think we make it out of this
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You and I know I mean like just people know. I don't see any way like I know it seems
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You know
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we've talked about it before every generation thinks the world is ending and all of that stuff and
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You do see clear parallels between this and the civil rights movement
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not in regards to
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Certain things but but here's the difference how many times here's the difference
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Yeah back then a bigoted Charles Nelson Riley didn't become president. That's true or someone else on match game
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You know like it. Yeah, it didn't you didn't end up with
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Richard Dawson because he at least like kissed all the women. Yeah, absolutely. You could say like he didn't grab anybody by the pussy
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No, but if really probably if Richard Dawson was a bigot and became president back
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Then then you'd have an argument for every generation feels like shits going. That's true. That is true
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This is unprecedented in terms of like where our I mean our president tweet
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Rex Tillerson said that we are talking to North Korea and our president went on Twitter to say don't worry about it
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We'll take care of it to his own secretary of state. It's not good. That is that is
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Insane that's not it's it's so insane that we're just like, how do you even deal with that?
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You know you talk about normalizing behavior, but that's fucking outside of anything if I had to give my I can't even process that
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It's so ludicrous. It's it's wild. I mean, it's a subjugation of your own past decisions and shit
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It's like it the layers of like what are you fighting against are crazy because it's clearly yourself on some level
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I mean Trump is shadowboxing with all sorts of weird things. He's lost his mind. Absolutely, but it's lost his mind
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I think that he like one of the things that Alex Jones has gotten into saying now in
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2017 is like Trump doesn't really matter. It's the movement right and if Trump goes south on us
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Then we still have our movement. Yeah, and I think there is some truth to that
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I mean, obviously Trump has to go he is destroying everything in his path and he is a national disgrace
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But at the same time your question always a disgrace to the earth not just the nation your question
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Are we gonna make it out of here that sort of thing? Yeah, I think that there is a chance but it's
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Contingent on people understanding what the actual battle is and I don't think a lot of people are
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because I think there's a lot of people who are still hung up on this idea of
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Republican versus Democrat
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And a lot of people who are very rightful
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they're right in what they're doing because a lot of the
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Direct action is really required in order to preserve a lot of the rights and protect a lot of disenfranchised people
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So I don't think they're doing anything wrong
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But I do think that there is a greater awareness that needs to be in the public's mind. I
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believe that we are coming up on and
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Unfortunately might have already entered
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What will be a make or break?
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Moment for civilization. Yeah, and I don't mean this to sound like Alex Jones
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But it might and here let me unpack what I'm trying to say, okay
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throughout our history
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We've had a lot not just America's history, but human history when man was young sure
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I mean, we can't go all the way back. We don't have time. We were born in a small cave
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Is this your Attenborough impression? That's what I'm going for. Okay. Well Blake throughout history
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We've had a lot of different versions of social organization when you had
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You know more primitive people they had like we've discussed this you have matrilineal societies. Yeah, you have some that have
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Representation in some ways like the underlings get to vote for what the tribe does right and some that are just
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very much like
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A triarchical. Yeah, yeah top down one person's in control and leads everything
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Yeah, see a crowd alpha alpha male rules everything much like you would in like the guerrilla community
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Yeah, you have those in the primitive times and then you've had monarchies
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And a lot of that has gone away and led towards representative democracy
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Yeah, that's how Damon Albarn treats gorillas, right? Right. It just gets rid of him. He's just
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I'm talking about the band. I understand. Okay, but throughout with
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The representative democracies that have come and sort of replaced most monarchies and you have like people like we still have the Queen in England
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But it's it's a form. It's a figurehead. Yeah, it's not a it's not they're not running things
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What have you and you still have dictatorships around so you still have remnants of that sort of monarchical?
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turkey
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You
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Have all you have a number of those places
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And what I what I think is going on if I can be totally blunt is we are in a phase
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much like I
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Know I wouldn't liken it to 1776. I
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Wouldn't I wouldn't liken it to that. Of course not
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But I I don't think it's anything like 1776. I think we're
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A Kierkegaard Kierkegaard is belief is that the human matures through crises?
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He believes that at various points in your life
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You have a crisis and you grow through it like one of the crises would be separation from your parents, right?
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And then you you have a terrible period of time where you're freaking out and then eventually you come out the other end of it
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And you mature and become more of a whole person, right?
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I think that what we're seeing right now is possibly a
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Crisis of democracy. I think we're seeing a crisis of capitalism
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I think we're seeing those systems are not working anymore in the same way
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Being a child and having your parents take care of everything doesn't work at a certain point
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And I'm not saying that this is a condemnation of welfare or any of that sort of thing
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I actually think that we need more of that
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But I think that we're coming to a point now and who knows when it'll bubble over
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But the crisis is we have to come up with something different
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Capitalism in its late stage that we're in now doesn't work. It's exploitative and it kills everybody
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It's an ouroboros that eats itself, but it's more aggressive than an ouroboros
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Yeah, no kidding. At least the image of an ouroboros is kind of like it goes off perpetual. Yeah, exactly
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So there's that this is this is a
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Marauding cannibalistic system that is going to destroy everybody. Yeah, and we're seeing the democracy
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Representative democracy while wonderful and ambition is very clearly subverted and there's not
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compatible with unchecked capitalism
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totally because the people who have tons of capital and tons of the the economic power find it very easy to
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Gerrymander for example or find ways to disenfranchise the people who don't have it
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And so I think that I and this is one of the one of the problems
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I'm not certain the democratic socialists are the right way. I'm not sure they intrigue me as
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What sounds like a better idea? Okay, and I've looked into them a bit is this Dan the centrist? No, okay
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This is Dan be cautious
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Okay, cautious
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Constantly optimistic. I think that probably if there's a way to implement a lot of their ideas
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Uh-huh. I think that it does create a better world
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I think that's probably true, but I don't know if it's enough because right now what we see is
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Forces that are against the progress. They're against the coming out the right end of growing pains
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It's like Alex Jones
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Donald Trump
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Russia all of these figures in many ways
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They are the child that doesn't want to get out of their parents house
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If I if that seems reasonable, they are the people who want coal they want harsh capitalism
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they want this cruel brutal system to stay in place and
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They are trying to stop us from successfully completing the crisis
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Um, I would say the crisis already passed and I think we're at the point now where it's it's very
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Strongly disagree. I am I think we still need crisis. I disagree
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I think we are I think or we are past it and now we have when did it very
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Very thin margins when did it end? Um, I would say it ended in 2008. Hmm
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I would say that all of this is
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Ultimately a reaction to two things the Iran deal. Yeah
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No, it's a reaction to
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Reagan
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Beginning to dismantle the New Deal
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Which is what allowed the oligarchs to consolidate so much power in such a small
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Group of people and then it was in reaction to what we did after
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2008 and 8 where we bailed out the our oligarchs right and left poor people still further in the dust
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I agree all the gains all of the gains since 2008 have gone to the wealthy
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But I actually they are that crisis point past and now we're in we're in very narrow pathways
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I pause it is serfdom or it is blood. I posit that that's the beginning of the crisis
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Okay, I don't think that that's the end of it
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I think that's the beginning of when something new must be birthed, right?
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So I I choose to look at it and I mean we're talking in fucking weird spitball in here
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This is not like I don't have I don't have a degree in predicting things
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Whatever, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're we're talking out our ass to a certain extent
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we're dumb dumbs in Chicago, but like I do I choose to look at it is that is the moment when
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Capitalism and the oligarchy that we have in our own country
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that is when it was a step too far and something needed to be done right and the beginnings of
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The crisis came into effect you choose to look at it as the end of a crisis and I would disagree
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I would say that it's the end of when a crisis coming could be ignored right now
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I I respect that and I can see I can see where you're coming from, but if I'm gonna look back at
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You know the Great Depression
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And all of the people who starved to death and died back then that was the crisis
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No wasn't not the Great Depression or not the collapse, but it was the crisis
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No, and to get out of that nope FDR instituted the New Deal strongly disagree
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I don't think that is I don't think that was a civilizational crisis. I think that was a crisis with I'm not saying
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That's that's my that's kind of my point there. Okay, is that that was something that can be grown through
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You know Herbert Hoover's
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disastrous response to it was
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Was the crisis there and so through?
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Democracy we did abate that yeah
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Even though the best ideas of the New Deal were stripped out by the same oligarchs that we've been fighting before
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I think we're dealing more along the lines of the six by the old-time
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monarchies in a much larger scale
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Wherein I the the monarchs controlled everything sooner or later
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They treated their people poorly enough that they started a rebellion
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Yeah
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And that rebellion always ended with blood or serfdom and that's pretty much where I think we're at right now
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Well, that will be the end of the crisis. Yeah, exactly. So your argument that the crisis ended in 2008. I don't buy
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I'm just saying that that's inevitable. I think the closest that we've come
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I mean, I'm sure there have been other times and and maybe even I mean you could look at the beginnings of like workers rights and
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unionization and stuff like that as a
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an attempt to shift things entirely, but I would argue that that's still living within the
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Existing framework and just trying to gain power for the people within it and it was on such smaller scale
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There wasn't the possibility of destroying your world right in the entrance of workers, right?
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with now the stakes are so much higher in the same way that I'm describing the the
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feudalist the feudalist systems in older Europe and then then your stakes were literally
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Life or death if the if the castle if the if the monarch falls you're going to then be taken over by your
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Neighboring people. Yeah, that's that's the type of thing. We're dealing with in which
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America is going to fall. Yeah, and that's the that's uh
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that's why the crisis happened in 2008 because that was the moment where really we could have stopped America from falling and now the
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The just inertia of history and of the way people work and the way our systems interact
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That's the way it's gonna go. Well combine that with climate control or with climate change the
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National disasters that are going to multiply they're already so bad. We can't really deal with them, right?
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I don't like how is it the why aren't people in Puerto Rico rioting?
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Because they're on an island and they're hungry, you know, imagine 3.6 million people in Chicago
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Or three points is imagine Chicago. All of us are left without homes or power, right? Where do we go?
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We go very we go somewhere to start some shit. We go to Gary, Indiana to buy guns. We'll take it
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Yeah, I like like I run to the play the lion's death
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I or I raid the porno shop. I go to the pleasure chest right down the right down the way on
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What I I think I think what you're saying makes sense
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but the the the thing that I would put on it is that I don't think that
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throughout our
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illustrious history
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There has been a time when it's been abundantly clear that we need to change everything
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except for the 60s and early 70s
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I believe that that was a time when social movement was towards throwing out a ton of shit. That was unnecessary and
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making a fundamental shift in the way that everyone everyone lives and
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not necessarily forcing it but like making making a
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Foundational difference as opposed to changing something within a system making a new system
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And I don't think we finished it. Well, of course not everybody who is trying was killed, right?
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And I don't think I think that was a big part of it
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That's a huge part of it
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But when you murder Martin Luther King jr. RFK and Fred Hampton, right? You're gonna take down a lot of people
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Yeah, and you end up with mass
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Disillusionment absolutely and that was I believe the first attempt at a crisis
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And the first attempt of the crisis of growth and it was held at bay
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It was held back and now I think it's bubbling up again
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And what we're going to see and what we have been seeing and like I said
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I think the Democratic socialists are a big piece of this an attempt to do some of that stuff
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That was done in the in the 60s and 70s on a more organized front and doing it without
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flowers in your hair and hippie-dippie nonsense and all that stuff that everyone attacked so much and
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This to me is the essence of what I'm getting at. I think
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We stand
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with a past example of what happens if this doesn't work and
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that is
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Nixon Reagan
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That sort of shit. That's where we end up going down if it doesn't work if people get disillusioned they end up
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Submitting and ending up pretty disappointed and we have the path that we've gone down since the 70s
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There is a force that wants that and that is Alex Jones
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That is Trump. That is the alt-right that is neo-nazis that the oligarchs well, and they're minions
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Yeah, it turned the globalists
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Well, no
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It turns out that these people who are super rich and holding people down quite frankly are probably thrilled that people like Alex Jones
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They of course they are the establishment loves them. They absolutely
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Encourage this. Yeah, of course they do they would love it
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If the Mercers are paying for Milo Yiannopoulos is everything
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Yeah, they of course support this bullshit even after everything that has come out about him has come out
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Yeah, he's still fucking support. That's because he still gets people's eyes and he still angers liberals
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That's all they care about. So here's my prescriptive piece that I'm gonna put at the end of this. Okay
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We like like I said, I think we stand at what amounts to
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more or less a crossroads and one one way or another something's gonna happen and
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Well, I'll see you at the crossroads cross road
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Look we can say you won't be lonely
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That's my uncle Charles look we have
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we have
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We have I don't know. I don't know what to do
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All right, that's my prescriptive. I'm so fucking angry all the time. I'm and it's it's both
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Infuriating and hilarious and tragic and and I can't deal with all of these emotions anymore
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I would argue that the thing to do is
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take some lessons from
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40 50 years ago what happened we can we can take one lesson and that is
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Folk music it's not gonna change the world. The second lesson we can take is avoid disillusionment
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avoid the
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If some positive leader gets killed
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Don't let that set back things don't think that that means that the world is gonna end because I do think
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That in the 60s and 70s had there been less
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Investment in people as singular figureheads, right then there would have been a chance that some of the stuff would have been followed through
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A lot better the great man theory of history is not a good way to live. No
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beyond that
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We must fight Alex Jones, so you must fight them on the beaches
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We must fight them on the yeah
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I mean ultimately what you are looking at is or
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Submit to that serfdom that you see in the well, that's pretty much quite frankly. I don't see I don't see any other option
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I think that that is our inevitable future
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Unless we successfully pass through the crisis that was presented to us 50 50 years ago, and we failed to grow through I
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believe that
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Society as a whole it's unfair to say that we failed to grow through it
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I mean we did get Medicare and Medicaid passed and the Civil Rights Act was pushed through. No, that's we did
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Grow, we didn't we didn't actually solve the issue
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I would it was like throwing garbage at the monster that stuff is awesome
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Yeah, all that stuff is awesome, and I'm not taking away from it, but I would argue
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That's the equivalent of getting a C on a test. Yeah, I absolutely agree with you
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Okay, yeah, cuz I don't want it. I don't want to impugn the Civil Rights Act or anything like that
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But at the same time it's not the it wasn't the revolutionary
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Upheaval of everything that we need I quite frankly. It just doesn't work the only the only
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The only reason that I brought that up is because I do kind of find that to be in a certain way
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Hopeful the fact that they did it did do things it did get stuff done
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No, and if you look at how many lives Medicare and Medicaid have saved how many you know the Civil Rights Act?
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It definitely didn't do anything
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How many you know the Civil Rights Act it definitely didn't do everything it fucking needed to know?
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But you can't look at Arians hate it and libertarians should all go fuck themselves
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Yeah, most all of them
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It did it did accomplish something and so if you want to if you want to argue that
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Incremental change is possible
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Then well that is a good example to point to the flip side where I think we're just too far gone
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The flip side of it is yes, it did all this great things
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But it also came along with a state of pretty much perpetual war ever since yeah, of course
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So I don't think I I think that they're you know
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You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater as they say
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But at the same time it is I think a little bit foolish to think that that's progress
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With a big P cap, right? Right, right when what we need to do is
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completely overhaul the entire
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ideas
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That we have about what power means
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overhaul the entire idea of
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The mean I quite honestly capitalism is one of the biggest problems of this entire
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Situation we're in yeah, and I don't I don't have a question. I
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Don't know what the answer is. I'm not I'm not here to say that socialism is the right answer
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But what we have now does not work. That's the crisis
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we faced 50 years ago, right and it's the crisis we face today and that's that's why I'm saying that it's it's too late the
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Inertia of capitalism is such that the only way to actually
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Defeat it would be with something that is strong enough to move that off its course and that has to happen
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Immediately because the can I would hope it's the will to live the cancer of capitalism has
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metastasized so much faster than any of us are really willing to
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To deal with and so it's where our response just isn't gonna be as fast Bernie Sanders is still saying
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you know, we need single-payer health care, but
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What we're going to have to do is fix Obamacare first and then gradually move towards
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Socialized health care and there isn't time there's not enough time. This shit needs to go down
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soon and the only way to organize enough of a
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a enough of a a large enough group of people to do this is
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I mean eventually through wide-scale anger right and rage and
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Once you get too far on that we're talking again about
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blood and serfdom yeah, and
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you know because it because that's I mean we live in a very very
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Very capitalism builds a comfortable serfdom. It does not build agency. It does not build
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anything other than the
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Falsities of the American dream. It's almost like that's some of the messages Alex should have taken from a brave new world
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Yeah, what a thought and said he takes some other weird ones, of course
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And so it's just it's just not going to it's just not going to happen. And the only the only question is
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how soon and
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What happens along the way?
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Cuz cuz some wild shits going down and here's another thing to remember
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Ty goes to the runner
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in this case
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In the sense that like the status quo
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Gets like they win ties. Yeah, absolutely. So if it's a tie nothing change nothing changes and
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Inaction inactivity doesn't work. It breeds further inactivity and I and just because we got a fucking end this we're rambling here
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We're not rambling. We're discussing the inevitable end of the world and who thinks it's going to come sooner
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You take a negative stance on it. I take a positive stance
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I think that there is a possibility we grow through it and something beautiful comes out
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But in the meantime, there are growing pains and blood is inevitable
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Yeah, serfdom is not necessarily inevitable
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Is if we don't change things right, but the blood part probably inevitable. Yeah, there will be I
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I
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Have to there will be a Daniel Day-Lewis movie about this there
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Well, I know he said he retired but let me tell you something. This is the role of his career man Trump retire Trump
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Daniel Day-Lewis would crush that role. It's good. Just let Anthony a Tamarack do it
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I know but Anthony a Tamarack isn't gonna take it with the seriousness that Daniel Day-Lewis. Well, he's got range
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Oh, I that's that may Tony's got rain. That may be true
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So I I have a more optimistic stance on it. You have a negative stance on it. That's who woulda guessed
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Yeah, who woulda guessed the guy who started with?
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Dreams of headless Koch brothers is gonna have a negative assessment of the world. Mm-hmm
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And I don't know. We'll see what happens
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Yep, my doom and gloom perspective is probably we'll end up with the tie going to the runner
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Yeah, then 50 years from now, we'll be back to where we are. Dude. There's no way we may get another 50 years from now
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I believe even though even the best projections for climate change say it's
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2050 to a
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2100 it's not the entire world being destroyed. It's just I'm not saying it's the entire world being destroyed because of climate change
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I'm saying that the world is going to eat itself alive because of climate
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People are going to eat themselves. The world's gonna be fine when we're gone Dan
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But that's the world's been around for five for however two billion years or whatever
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But that's the thing if we grow through the crisis that we're supposed to grow through we can adapt to climate change
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I mean, I mean if the tie goes to the runner, right my point to you there
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Status quo everything's been with then we're done right then it's over and in that sense. I mean, I don't know
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Time does have a way of speeding up a little bit and maybe maybe we don't grow through this crisis
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We have it again in ten years as opposed to 50 years this time just because of the inevitability of it and and the increasing
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Pressures that climate change is putting on with refugee
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Growth right that we see and it's it's possible but I would like to see us grow through it. I think I
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think that the traits that you'd like to see emphasized are things like empathy things like
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care
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Things like
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Not give them fuck about money
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Yeah, I think those are the things you'd like to see
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And if we do that that could be revolutionary to some extent possible
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I don't know anyway too much power entrenched in the in the wealthy
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But all that can go away all that is illusory. All of it really is that's true. I've
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We'll finish this off the air because I have something really fucked up to tell you. All right
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All right, but if you want to find out what fucked up thing Dan is about to say I might write about it on Thursday
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Yeah, I have come to the grown through the crisis. I've grown through the crisis my friend. I have reached catharsis
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Yeah, and then and forgive the last half-hour of this show. That's we're not supposed to be that show quite frankly
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No, I think it's I think it's supposed to be a fun exploration of Alex Jones being an idiot
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Not like not peddling pedantic theories that I have about how we can save the world
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Or my doomsday prepping right? I get that
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I mean
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I think these I think these are really the conversations that everybody should be having pretty much all the fucking time right now
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We have of like if we're going to do this. How are we gonna do it that kind of thing?
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And you know, I probably have some more thoughts about concrete steps and stuff like that that we can take or that would be
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Helpful, but I don't know maybe another show who knows
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You know who doesn't
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Go ahead. No, no, it's you. It's you know, I always it's all it's on you
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There's one guy who has never grown through a crisis
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His
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Teeth definitely didn't grow through a crisis
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He's a guy who has a crisis of should I put up this picture and he fails at every single time
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50 years ago
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There was a movement to put up that picture. It didn't succeed that he did not grow through that. Oh, no
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and he sucks and
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I hate him who what would you what would you say to this man?
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I'd say he should go fuck himself. His name is John Rappaport John Rappaport. Go fuck yourself
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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Oh Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
