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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Is there a twist today, unspecific to the twists of yesterday?
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Uh, pfft, I don't know what that is.
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I don't know, I was trying to go with yesteryear and I was like, we haven't been doing this for-
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Strange phrasing.
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Yestermonth? I don't know, I got nothing.
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Today's novelty beverage is red wine.
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Hahahaha!
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We are going back to our roots, the show originally was us drinking wine and talking about Alex Jones,
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we had to settle that down for a little bit, but we wanted to go back to the roots!
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Uh, and the reason was given to me by Dan as, we're gonna need to drink wine for this one.
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We might need to brace ourselves, steal our reserves.
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Right, right, right.
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That's not the expression, but-
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No.
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Um, look, I think that we've been getting-
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Steal our reserves.
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You know, we got a lot of food squared away, we need to cover it in steel.
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Right, and you know nothing about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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Premise of the show, I know a lot about Alex Jones, Jordan over there does not know much about him.
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I'm just excited we're drinking again.
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Amen.
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Uh, one of the reasons was I was listening back to our last episode and I realized I was way too mad about, uh,
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the people who were posting the Bon Iver video meme of Alex Jones because-
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You were very pissed.
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I was right, but I was-
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Hahahaha!
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I was way too mad.
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And I don't like that, I wanna- that's not what this show's supposed to be.
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I don't wanna turn into some Alex Jones facsimile where I'm screaming and everybody's doing this wrong and all this.
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Oh, that's true.
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I felt really, like, self-conscious about it and I'm like, well, the only solution is let's get drunk.
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Well, and I mean, I have actually been having the same kind of thoughts recently where it's like,
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are we just becoming the anti-Alex Jones?
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Like, there's been a couple of things where I've noticed, like, listening back, uh, it's like,
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oh, that's exactly what he does.
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But we don't build up false narratives for a specific purpose.
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You know, like, I don't think we do that.
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But we tear down false narratives for a specific purpose.
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Which is-
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So we're just the anti-Alex Jones.
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We're tearing down those narratives for the sake of tearing them down because they're lies.
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Right.
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So I think it's okay-
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We're like Reagan.
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Right.
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Tear down that lie wall.
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Um, but, uh, to get back to that-
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God, I hope David Hasselhoff closes out this episode.
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He definitely will, he comes in on the money bomb.
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Really? Okay.
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Hahahaha!
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So, uh, like, I want to also say that, like I said-
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And now we have Baywatch star David Hasselhoff.
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And, uh, D'Errico.
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Donald D'Errico on backup vocals.
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Um, I want to say that about that, uh, Bon Iver video, I'm totally right.
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Uh, Alex Jones just announced-
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That's twice we have confirmed Dan is right.
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Uh, self-confirmed.
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Well, Alex Jones, uh, just at the end of last week-
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That's true.
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He announced a $20,000 contest for people to make parody versions of this parody song about him.
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Yep.
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And that's what I'm saying he's going to do, that's what he does all the time with this shit.
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No, you have been proven right, but, uh, you know, it's a little gauche to talk about it yourself.
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You should've given me a little cue-
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Calm down.
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I would've been like, Dan, you're so right.
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The reason I brought it up and maybe forced a self-congratulatory note is because I know exactly what the plan is for what this contest is going to achieve.
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He's basically going to have all the- I mean, he's posted all the lyrics of the parody song on his website, on Infowars.com.
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And what he's going to have people do, and the winner who ends up winning this $10,000 of the $20,000, because it's broken down, it's three prizes.
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One for best parody, uh, that's $10,000.
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Right.
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$5,000 will be awarded to the person who films it in the weirdest- or best location.
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Their video is in the- I don't know what that means.
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My-
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Congress?
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Is that a-
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I don't know.
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Is that a way to avoid paying out that $5,000?
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Probably.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, but like, I know what he's going to do.
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All the lyrics are there-
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My sex dungeon is the weirdest location.
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It's super weird.
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Yeah, that's super weird, but I'm not giving you five grand for it.
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It is a way that he is going to essentially get people to try and reinforce the lines in that song that people are making fun of.
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Yeah.
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So it'll be like, uh, we love our Somalis, and then, you know, flash up on the screen something about how Somalis kill people.
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Yeah.
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It's going to be a thing where he takes his propaganda and it's reinforced through the use of that parody song.
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Right.
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It's like, oh, they're making fun of all this stuff.
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All of it's true.
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They do want to eat babies.
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Yeah.
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Stuff like that.
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And it's like, you guys are fighting a losing battle.
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So, anyway, it's going to be a bummer.
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But the good news is way less people will see that parody version than the Bon Iver version.
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That's definitely true.
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So there's something to be said for that.
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I don't know.
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Let's get into greener pastures and happy things. I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of new donators.
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Oh, shit. A couple?
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That's right. I'd like to give a shout out to our new friend, Rex. What's going on out there?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you for donating, Rex.
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If you're Rex Tillerson, you have to let us know.
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It's not. It's Rex.
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How dare you, Rex Tillerson?
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It's Rex from our favorite pro wrestling themed punk band, the Razor Ramones.
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Alright, well then, never mind, Rex. I'm a huge fan of yours.
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Yeah, you're the best Rex of the Rexes we've mentioned.
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Also, I'd like to give a shout out to our other new donator. What's up, Anthony?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Welcome aboard.
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If that's Anthony Wiener, I'm just going to do this every single time you give a first name.
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It's actually Anthony Kumiya, host of the fourth hour of the Alex Jones program periodically.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, Jordan, let's get things started.
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I like the idea that Infowars employees actually stealth donate to us.
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Just going like, please get us out of this. He won't let us leave.
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He won't let us leave. Just take him down. Somebody.
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Only you can destroy him.
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Today, we're going to be going over Investigation, the eleventh installment of the Investigation,
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where we go through 2015 and find out what the fuck happened to make Alex Jones go crazy.
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And today, we'll be going through September 6th to September 17th.
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This is, this is inexplicable, right?
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Like, when did this, this started in June?
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What, our, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Our investigation began June 15th, the day that Donald Trump announced his candidacy.
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How is this still, how is this still going on? Shouldn't it be over by now?
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It's very, I expected it to be.
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Like, especially with his, his full on, like, now he's, he's going,
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sovereignty, sovereignty, sir, blah, blah, blah, you know, that whole thing.
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You mean in 2017?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shouldn't he be, shouldn't he be on the train by now?
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What's going on?
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You'd think he would have made some sort of substantial move, and we just have not seen that yet.
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No, not at all!
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No, today we're going to be going over, like I said, September 6th to the 17th.
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The reason that's important is the end of his big money bomb, which we've discussed,
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and it's what I have speculated is the opportunity for bizarro money to come flowing into the show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think that might, I have speculated that might be the case. I don't know, we'll see.
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So does he get into, like, a tube and a lot of one dollar bills kind of get vacuumed around him?
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You know, like one of those shows?
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The big air jets?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It would be better.
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He has to grab as many of them as he can in order to...
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Not Larry Nichols, I know you have lung cancer, but get in the tube.
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If you want your bills covered, get in the tube.
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I don't know. It would be better.
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That's way more fun than, don't give out ten thousand dollar prizes.
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No.
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Apply somebody out, put them in a tube, and throw one dollar bills at them the whole time.
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That'd be perfect.
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That'd be great.
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I would be way more happy with that than ten grand.
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I probably would, too, for the story, for the experience.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course.
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Money's just money. You can't take it with you when you go.
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And seeing as how we're all going in, like, ten to fifteen years max.
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Oh, that seems high.
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Oh, yeah.
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But you know what? Before we go, before we die, everyone needs to listen to this out of context drop from Alex Jones.
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God bless you, man. I'm sorry for your son.
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They didn't get his soul, though.
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And see, I don't know how that works when they brain damage a baby, and they never obtain full consciousness.
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I guess that soul just ends up when they die going right to God, so in a way it's a reprieve.
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I can't judge.
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See, the globalists know a lot of this stuff.
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I wonder if they wouldn't be killing, brain killing kids, soft killing them, mind killing them, if they thought they weren't still getting the soul, because that's what they really want.
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So maybe they think when they're all brain damaged and get all crazed and then get older that they'll get smart enough to get corrupted and maybe possessed.
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I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to figure out why these demons, from whatever dimension they come from, want to brain damage the kids.
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Because I know God doesn't damn people to hell that never were conscious.
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I don't know. It's just food for thought.
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Food for thought.
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Why is that food for thought?
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I don't know.
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Also, I love the mind killer reference to Gang Gang Dance. Everybody knows that.
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I'm certain that's what it was.
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Yeah, exactly. It's a great song.
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Jordan, I completely fucked up.
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I know. The Bon Iver video was great.
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No, I forgot that I had another thing I wanted to discuss before we got into our main episode.
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So guys, forgive me, but I have another clip that we need to listen to, because it's great.
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Recently, I don't have permission to play this, but I'm going to anyway. I hope he doesn't sue me.
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All right.
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Recently, Jimmy Pardo on Never Not Funny had Tom Arnold as a guest.
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And Tom Arnold had a very interesting story about some of the people that are involved in our universe.
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Okay.
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Alex Jones comes up in this clip.
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Yeah.
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Mike Cernovich comes up in this clip.
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And alleged Nazi Jesse James comes up in this clip.
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This, when I heard this...
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Sandra Bullock, also alleged Nazi.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Come on.
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When I heard this, I squealed with delight, and I want to play this.
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For those of you out in the world who do not have Never Not Funny, don't get the episodes.
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Please enjoy Tom Arnold being cool as shit.
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Well, here's what happened. Here's last week.
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This alt-right guy, white supremacist guy, challenges me to a fight.
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He's like, oh, I'd go good. We'll do it for a charity, because I do these charity boxing matches.
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I found my old rabbi who made 300 grand for Ben Teshuvah.
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I go, I will fight you for money.
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Good. We'll take your fans.
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And then all of a sudden this guy named Jesse James horns in and says, I'll represent Mike Cernovich, is the guy's name.
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Oh, that idiot.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And Jesse James goes, I will fight Tom Arnold as a pussy. I'll fight.
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And I go, wait a minute.
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Are you the Jesse James that cheated on his awesome wife with the stripper with the swastika tattoo and lost his family?
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Because there's a lot of Jesse James out there. I don't know who's who. Apparently it was.
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I go, oh, good. That'll be even better, because I know I'll kick your ass.
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And by the way, that'll make us more money, so let's do this thing.
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Okay.
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And so then I get up. Joe Carter has a producer, director. He's helped set it up.
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Like, this is really happening. We're going to do it at the Beverly Hilton.
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We're going to make a million dollars to help Gold Star families and a post-traumatic stress organization.
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It's great. It's great fun. And they go on that Infowars show with them and say I'm a pussy and whatever.
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And they challenge me. I'm like, hey, they're promoting this. This is awesome.
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And, you know, all his fans are kind of calling me names and this is just great, you know.
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And then they puss out.
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Why do they puss out, Tom?
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Oh, because they realized that everything they do, like Jesse James now sells guns.
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And that service guy, he wrote a book called Guerrilla Man or something.
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Like, it's about, he says there's also this thing as day rape and, man, they're pussies now.
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Everything they do, if they were on video getting their ass kicked by me, which wouldn't happen,
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just like a rabbi, unfortunately, then everything they say means nothing.
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And that's what will really happen. And so they would lose everything. So they wist out on that.
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That's slightly different than the version that Mike Cernovich tells.
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A little bit.
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Also, I believe it way more.
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Absolutely. Also, I'll tell you this, we get to use that clip, part of a headline to show that I was emceeing at Zany's.
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And he talked shit about me for 20 minutes, so come at me, Pardo!
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Sure. Alright, we got the implicit go-ahead.
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Also, how great would that be if we just end up in some sort of bizarre feud about using a clip of Tom Arnold talking shit on Cernovich?
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Ah, but I mean, there's a couple things in there that I fucking love, and that is that Tom Arnold does realize that Mike Cernovich,
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going on Infowars and calling Tom Arnold a pussy after they had already agreed to have a celebrity boxing match,
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is just another version of promotion. He gets it. He gets that.
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Pro wrestling.
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And he perfectly assesses why they couldn't follow through.
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If Tom Arnold doesn't have his shit beat out of him, then, like you said, the whole game is over.
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Even if it's close.
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Like, oh.
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Even if it's close, it's a disaster for Cernovich.
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Imagine you got beat up by Tom Arnold. You got beat up by the star of The Stupids.
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If I did, I wouldn't feel bad about it. It would probably be like, eh.
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I would do it for the experience.
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I probably would.
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That would be fun.
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Do I get to go into a money tube afterwards?
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Anyway, I just like bringing... Yeah, you do.
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His rabbi has that set up on the side of the stage.
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Is that a stealth racist thing about Jews?
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It wasn't, but now I realize it sounds bad. Oh well.
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Anyway, I just like to bring up any time in pop culture we get evidence that these dudes are wack as fuck.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Behind the scenes, they had already agreed to it, is what his point is.
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And then they back out. That is the most beta cuck move you can do.
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Especially Mike Cernovich challenging him and then getting biker Jesse James to stand in for him.
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Right.
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I use you as tribute.
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Right, right, right.
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Whatever, yeah.
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Like some sort of Game of Thrones shit.
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He wasn't calling the mountain, you know.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So, let's get to the episode, Jordan.
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Yes, let's do it.
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We've had our fun, now let's get shit-faced and talk shit.
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Yeah.
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We're going to start on September 6th.
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And that is a Sunday show, so we know that Alex Jones likes to launch soft narratives on his Sunday shows.
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And I feel like we've done a decent job of saying where we left off.
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The money bomb is coming up. Alex Jones is clearly needing money at the end of the fiscal year.
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He needs to try and raise a million dollars.
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And at this point, he has only said basically that he likes what Trump is saying, but he doesn't trust him.
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Still loves Rand Paul.
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Yeah.
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There we go. We're up to speed.
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This September 6th, we're going to start exactly how Alex Jones starts the show.
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Every day I start the broadcast and I'm just honest with you.
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Wow, we got a lot of news.
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And usually I cover about 20% of it.
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That is honest.
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Some days I cover 60, 70% of it.
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Every once in a while I cover 90-something percent of it.
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Nope.
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Usually you cover about...
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Days, one of the days, I really should cover all of it.
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Eight percent of it?
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Maybe. Maybe eight.
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Yeah. Maybe eight headboxes.
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Because when you look at this world, there are two types of people when you boil it all down.
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There's different subgroups, but there's dogs and there's cats.
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All right. Well, kill yourself.
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And I got this article right here at the National Post.
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Your cat doesn't love you, scientific studies show.
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I don't need a scientific study to show me that my cat, and I do have one cat and two dogs, does not love me.
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Because no animal has ever loved you.
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It only wants to pretend I'm its mother and make biscuits on my stomach in an infantile manner.
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But it could care less if I fell down and died tomorrow.
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It doesn't have anxiety when I'm gone, except it wants to bitch and gripe and ask for food.
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It wants a free handout.
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My dogs on the other hand would basically die and have heart attacks if something happened to me.
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And that's clear.
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And it's that spiritual connection.
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It's that honorableness of the dog, which isn't perfect, but it has honor.
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Silly and ignorant, but has guts and guts is enough, is why I'm a dog person and not a cat person.
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Great.
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What was that?
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And people out there think they're getting ahead being cat people.
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Oh, it's still going?
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Folks that think they're getting ahead not caring about other folks.
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You think you're cool, only caring about yourself.
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You're an idiot.
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Yeah.
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It's like people that get in a hot tub and take a crap.
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And I hate to be gross here, but you think of getting away with it.
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Go to the bathroom.
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Who are you hanging out with?
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And you're crapping on everyone else, you're crapping on yourself.
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And these are just elementary understandings here.
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Cats are not pack animals unless you look at lions in Africa and they still feed on each other.
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Unless you look at the cats who are pack animals.
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Dogs are creatures of honor, first and foremost.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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If I had to have an archetypal totem animal, it would be the dog.
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No.
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Cats are cute.
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Cats are funny.
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But make no mistake, they won't be there for you when you're in a jam.
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And if somebody comes in your house and attacks you, they're not going to stand up for you.
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Dogs will.
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You don't hear about cops going to people's houses and shooting their cats, do you?
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It's the dog because they're not cowards.
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Even if they're little or they're big, they stand up because they love you.
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And our society is imploding because we're becoming a cat society, not a dog society.
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So this is Alex Jones trying to make a point about the world,
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while at the same time trying to work out some material for a weekend he's doing in a shitty club.
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I was going to say, this is a shitty 80s hack bit, right?
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Yeah, basically.
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Y'all know the difference between dogs and cats.
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Yeah, man.
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Cats on one side, they be like this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you said it.
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Dogs over here, they be walking like this.
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Oh, man, that's the truth.
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Oh, God, I love Def Jam.
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That's the truth.
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I love Def Jam comedy.
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That is like, that is terrible hacky nonsense.
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Yeah.
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And look, I got a cat.
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I know she doesn't really love me, but we have a complicated kind of love.
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You know, that's how cats and dogs are.
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Dogs are simple.
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Cats are complex.
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There we go.
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I don't know.
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Now I'm getting into a hacky bit.
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Yeah, damn, there's two kinds of people in the world.
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Oh, boy.
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People who explain their love.
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I don't know.
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Who cares?
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I got nothing for that.
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That's dumb.
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That's just dumb.
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But that, I think, is an indication of how Alex often does, like, the Sunday shows are
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low stakes for him.
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Yeah.
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He knows that not many people are watching, and so he just kind of fills time a lot of
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the Sunday shows.
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So why not start off the show with a five-minute riff about why don't cops kill cats when they
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come to your house?
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I forgot.
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This is how he's starting the show.
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Right out of the gate.
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Right out of the gate.
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Right out of the gate.
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Look, sometimes I feel like I got to get into all of this news today.
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Right.
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He's talking about dog and cat people.
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Yeah.
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So he doesn't stay on that theme for very long, but he...
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Now, does he feel the same way about dog chimeras and cat chimeras?
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Interesting.
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I don't know.
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Do they take on the property?
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This is a very good, this is groundbreaking questions for Alex.
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Next week I'll call him to the show.
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Do the animals take on the properties, or do the people take on the properties of the
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animal that they're chimerad with?
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I think they would have to.
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Do you?
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Yeah, I mean, there's got to be some sort of genetic influence from the host animal.
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Yeah, but the fish people have, you know, sad human eyes.
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You don't know that fish aren't sad all the time.
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That could be a...
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We have no idea about the psychology of fish.
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I don't know.
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They are pack animals.
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I don't know if fish are sad all the time.
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So Alex does not stay on this theme.
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That would be a really depressing thing.
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Scientists reveal that fish are all depressed all the time.
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They're bummed out.
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They like the flakes, but nothing else.
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So Alex doesn't stay on this theme for very long.
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He does...
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Have you seen any cops killing your fish?
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That's a good point.
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He does get weird.
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There's a couple of things he says on this show that I think are indefensibly weird.
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And I don't think...
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I don't think if pressed he could explain what the fuck he's talking about.
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And here is the first of those clips.
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And then they write books like Ecoscience and Bertrand Russell writes books from the
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30s right through the 80s and the 90s bragging about it.
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These people think they're gods and they say the public doesn't care.
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We must have the right to do it.
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You see...
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Like you say...
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At a spiritual, intergalactic level, at an interstellar level, there are rules just written
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on the universe by God.
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And if you don't protest something, if you don't say no to it, then you are acquiescing
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and accepting it.
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That's really weird.
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On an interstellar level...
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Intergalactically.
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Intergalactic level.
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I apologize.
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Both.
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He uses both of those words.
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How do we feel about McConaughey?
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He's great.
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God wrote that rule on the universe.
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McConaughey is pretty cool.
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Just keep living.
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Amen.
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That's what we do here.
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Yeah.
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That's super bizarre.
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He's basically expressing the belief that if you don't fight back against something,
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you consent to it.
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Yeah.
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And I don't disagree with him.
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I disagree with how he wants to direct that.
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But he's denying the Nuremberg, the Nuremberg defense, basically.
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How so?
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Well, the idea that I was just taking orders is not an actual defense towards you putting
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Jews into a concentration camp.
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Right.
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You know?
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So, he is right.
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And it's something that I've talked about, or I talked about recently, which is every
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day that I'm not protesting the mistreatment of black people by fucking everything, I am
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-
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The police in particular.
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Yeah.
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I am implicitly consenting to allowing this kind of worldview to exist.
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I think it's a little more complicated than that.
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Well, that's because you're a cat person.
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I don't think that there are universal rules and galactic rules that were written by God,
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especially in the way that he's presenting it.
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Because what he's saying is that these globalists, like Bertrand Russell and the eco-science
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he references -
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Yeah, I like how he's really bringing up the recent references.
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You know, Bertrand Russell writing in the 30s.
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Right.
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And John P. Holdren's textbook Eco-Science, which you've discussed in the past, does
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not say the things that it says.
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He's saying that they are putting this out there.
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They're giving the information of what they're doing to you.
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And if you don't fight back, then you just accept it.
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And that's cockamamie because he's lying about what those things say.
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Yeah.
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Eco-Science, the textbook, doesn't say that they're putting things in the water.
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It doesn't say that they're trying to dumb down the population.
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It has nothing to do with that stuff.
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It's a fucking textbook.
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And they just - we've been over it.
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It doesn't matter.
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Yeah.
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Ugh, I hate him.
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Anyway.
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I'm still mad about the dog and cat thing.
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I'll tell you that.
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I couldn't even listen to that.
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Listen, that might have been pretty weird.
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Also, I'm telling you, Interstellar, the plot mechanics are not great.
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Okay.
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Great.
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Save it for when you're on DougLovesMovies.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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We gotta get a lot more listeners before that happens.
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Maybe.
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Next time he's at the Rosemont or whatever.
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There we go.
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Anyway, that clip was weird.
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But I'm telling you, this next clip is much weirder.
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I might have oversold how weird that clip is.
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I think it's fucking very weird that he believes that there's Interstellar rules.
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That's very weird to me.
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This next clip is very - I think it's undeniably weird.
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Okay.
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And they think that people lining up to get their new iPhone, that's technology.
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No, that's 50-year-old crap.
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Exactly.
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The true technologies, they have it.
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The true technologies are mind and are genetics that every scientist that's in genetic engineering
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understands isn't even of this world.
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We're made in the image of the creator that made this planet.
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We predate this planet.
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The elite all know that.
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They're just there dumbing the public down to not get it.
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We're not seeking after the elves.
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We are the elves.
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And they know that.
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They can't stand it.
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They want to keep you from that knowledge.
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They're aware of what we are.
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They want to play God while we run around watching NFL.
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That's what the joke is.
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Yes.
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I don't have any favorite idol.
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My idol is myself to tell you the truth.
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My idol is human ingenuity and going to the stars and fulfilling God's destiny.
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My idol is my dear.
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And that's what we need to show our children and try and reach as many people as we can.
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I agree with you.
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God bless you.
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I got to jump.
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But this is not an elite that would put stuff in vaccines to lower our IQ and put fluoride
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in the water to lower our IQ.
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An elite doesn't seek to dumb people down.
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Let's say the elite are some alien species.
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I'm not saying that, but let's just hypothetically.
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What type of elite alien species wants to dumb down a planet and make people a bunch
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of retarded idiots?
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I mean, you know what?
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You're not my God.
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A real God wants to build me up and give me Promethean fire.
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Not control me.
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Do you not know that goddamn reference?
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No, no, no.
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You are not God.
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You are fallen degenerate scum standing in the way of the true creation that dominates
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you.
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They hate humanity.
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They hate honor.
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They hate beauty.
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They hate creativity because we are their God.
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You understand that?
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The elite cannot stand true humanity.
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They will go to hell before they capture anything.
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They're a joke.
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They're only there to provide us with the stress to make us go to the next level.
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Let's get that straight to your heads that they are fallen.
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They are failed.
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They are scum.
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So let them play their games.
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Let them win for the season.
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We win for eternity.
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Praise Jesus Christ.
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I mean, you're getting so hardcore today, but I prayed last night at like 10 o'clock
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at night.
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I said, God, just let me tell the truth.
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I am tired of backing down to these people.
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I'm tired of watching them have their way with humanity.
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Just turn me loose and turn humanity loose.
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Amy in Tennessee, you're on the air.
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Man.
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Man oh man.
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Amy in Tennessee, you are on the air.
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That is smooth as silk.
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Wow.
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So what do you think about that?
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Humans predate the earth.
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Well, yeah.
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I think most Christians believe that, right?
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I don't think so.
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I don't think that's nowhere near any kind of Christianity, right?
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That's not anywhere near anything outside of like the weirdest theosophy, like the weirdest
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pseudo spiritualism.
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I mean, I guess there is a little bit on the seventh day God rested and then he went back
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to the negative first day and he was like, well, I might as well create humans here too.
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I mean, why not?
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It goes into a little bit of like vaguely Gnostic beliefs.
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There is a tiny bit of the idea of like pieces of your spirit predate humanity, that sort
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of thing.
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Little bit of Tolkien.
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Sure.
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Little bit of elves.
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We're not...
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And a little bit of internet message board Illuminati talk.
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That goes back to a lot of that stuff.
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And the idea that he presents that these globalists, all they're there for is to be a challenge
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for us to get to the next level.
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That's a fairly common belief within Christianity though, that idea that this life is a test.
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Right, but it also goes to the ideas that have been pitched on internet message boards
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about the Illuminati.
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So with all of the bullshit that we deal with, every time he gets into that weird religious
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aspect, he just has so much more of a ring of truth to him.
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When he's saying we're not seeking the elves, we are the elves, it feels like he believes
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that.
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Right.
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Like all of the...
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And that's speaking in parable.
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Yeah.
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And that's like, if you guys understand, you get it.
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You way get it.
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Yeah.
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You maybe get it too much.
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I wonder if he's talking about the DMT machine elves.
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You know when people take DMT, they often see machine elves.
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I don't know what that means at all.
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Dimethyltryptamine is a substance that you can take, it's a very powerful hallucinogen,
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and you can smoke it.
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And when you do, a lot of people...
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I don't know what the percentages are, and I haven't taken it myself.
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A lot of people report that you...
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Well, we started drinking wine, so I suppose the next episode we're gonna have to do DMT.
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I'm in.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It lasts for like ten minutes and we could never record on it.
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You can't move, you're just hallucinating so hard.
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Maybe you can move a little, who cares?
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But a lot of people report that they see elves working gears and machinery.
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And some people have speculated that behind the veil of reality, like DMT allows you to
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see beyond the...
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Pierce the veil.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They see that there are elves who are working the machinery of reality that create whatever
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we see in our reality.
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Well that's obvious, though.
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Where else would we get cookies?
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Those trees.
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Those trees that have elf factories.
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Look, let's not go any further down this road.
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Let's try and stay on topic.
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We're still in the sixth.
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You've already established that we're doing an eight and a half hour long episode.
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Never drinking wine on the show ever again.
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This is already off the rails.
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So on the sixth, Alex Jones does a lot of that weird stuff.
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And then in addition to that, we start to see this creeping pro-Russia stance.
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Oh, we're starting to see it now.
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Well no, we've already seen the beginnings of it starting to develop.
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Right, right, right.
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No, but that was more like pro-strong man.
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Russia is male.
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Pro-a-man-taking-bah.
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Yeah.
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That whole thing.
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We're starting to see a little bit more of it.
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And here's what he has to say about Russia and Assad.
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And then we see the shocking images of a drowned Syrian boy show tragic plight of refugees.
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Our government five years ago launches Al-Qaeda in Syria, kills 300,000 of these innocent
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people.
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And then when Russia and Syria fight back, we call them terrorists.
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And our own media says that quote, take out Assad, that'll stop ISIS when that's the group
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attacking.
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And they show a dead little two year old toddler in the sand, but they won't show them.
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Fuck you.
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Tens of thousands of dead babies that I've seen online.
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Fuck you.
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And you've seen online that were killed by Western backed rebels in Syria.
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So they create the crisis and then say, look, a dead baby.
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Yeah, look.
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So that's crazy.
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Compare that.
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Compare that bullshit fake empathy with when somebody, like when a terrorist attack happens
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and he revels in all of the people who died saying, look at how right I am.
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And then he pretends to give a fuck about that.
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Uh, no, no, he doesn't get to own both empathy and, and complete sociopathy.
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That doesn't count.
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Fair.
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That's a fake voice.
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Oh yeah.
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That's a fake bullshit.
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Oh yeah.
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No, I'm not cool with that.
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Well, are you cool with the fact that he's saying that basically Russia and Assad are
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the good guys?
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Well, of course.
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Okay.
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Well, actually, you know, uh, that was the sixth and then on the seventh is labor day.
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So he doesn't have a show on labor day.
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They just do a rerun show.
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Uh huh.
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Uh, and so, you know, no need to dwell on that.
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I'm glad he supports union holidays.
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Well, I think he actually, I'm sure that he loves the free market and prosperity so much
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that he has to be like, well, thank God we have a day to celebrate union.
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He does actually make a little bit of a point of that.
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Oh really?
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Yeah.
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I got to celebrate this union holiday, got to give my people a day off.
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Anyway, uh, we come back on the eighth and uh, guess what?
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He's still on his bullshit about Russia being the good guys, but as you can see, I'm particularly
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crazed today because this is the reality of what's happening.
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And then I look at all the other news, all the other things that are happening.
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U S demands Greece close airspace to Russian humanitarian aid for Syria when they're only
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flying them in food and Russia is doing us a favor trying to keep all the refugees from
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coming here.
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See, I mean, that's not to, that's not to say that that in and of itself is an evil
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thing to say.
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It's not wrong to say that Syria does or Russia does some good things, some bad things, but
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we're seeing a pattern developing over the course of early September of just outright
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Russia's the good guys, we're the bad guys.
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And it's really bizarre.
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It's really bizarre considering Alex Jones has passed, he has, but as we've discussed,
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he played into so much Russophobia in his early career.
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And the last time Russia did us a favor was in world war two.
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That's that was the very last time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know what to make of it.
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It is really interesting that, uh, if we look at the timeline of the world, it seems like
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summer fall of 2005 is when something 2015.
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Yeah.
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Excuse me.
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Yeah.
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2015 is when something really fucked up happened.
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Yeah.
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I think that that might be the branching point when our world could have gone one way or
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the other and we went the wrong way.
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That's our dark timeline.
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It just so happens that that's when, uh, Alex Jones is starting to warm to Trump, happens
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to be saying tons of positive shit about Russia and Assad on his show.
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I don't know.
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I don't have a conclusion, but it's weird.
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The thing that I think about pretty consistently is what's the balance between Putin taking
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advantage of a situation and Putin instigating the situation, right?
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So all of these guys right now in 2015 are just starting to be like, well, look at this
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strong man doing shit right now.
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How much of that is Russian propaganda seeping out and then Putin gone or you know, if not
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Putin himself directly, but his, his circle of oligarchs, um, saying this is something
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we can take advantage of and how much is directly his like, look at what I did like that kind
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of a shit.
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I think as it relates to Alex, it's, he's taking in like RT and Sputnik and he's getting
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the Russian line as the truth because it's more appealing to him.
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He has this idea that it's a masculine culture and that they've kicked out the globalists
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and therefore their media is obviously much more reliable than ours.
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Ours is just full of propagandists and CIA plants that are in the media.
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And so he just has no reason to doubt things that come from their, their outlets.
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It's mind boggling to try and see through these people's eyes.
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It's very weird.
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It seems it's, it could not be more obvious that RT is a state controlled media outlet
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even more so only shows what the state wants you to see.
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Yeah.
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Like it can't be more obvious.
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So how can you not catch it?
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I don't know.
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The way is you don't want to, well, yeah, yeah, you're, you're absolutely right.
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It doesn't fit with what you, I, I, I mean, I do understand though, because if you've
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built your entire life, like if you're Alex Jones at, in 2015 he's 40 ish, maybe, maybe
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a hundred.
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Who knows?
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He's timeless.
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His soul has migrated and he's talking with his ancestors and blah, blah, blah.
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So you've built your entire life around this ethos and just like you said, we have this,
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we have this splitting point, dark timeline versus the light timeline, wherein either
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all of these people really confront themselves and say, what I've believed for the longest
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length of time is wrong or they doubled down.
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They doubled down.
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And of course they doubled down.
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Well, at least in the case of Alex, certainly.
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I don't, I can't speak to whatever is happening with political figures and shit like that,
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but in terms of Alex, yeah, he's like, oh.
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I would actually say that the, the entire politics of 2015 was the, the firm cementing of there
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will never be a shared reality again.
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Oh, totally.
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Like it started, it started when Fox News started.
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Fuck off man.
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It started like Reagan, probably.
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You know what?
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You're absolutely right.
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I don't know if it was even before that.
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That was when the billionaire campaign of lobbying really took off.
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Yeah.
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But, but that I feel like is whenever it's like, this is how it's going to be forever.
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Yeah.
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I, I agree that it's where things ramped up to a, to a horrifying extent.
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Yeah.
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I think it's because, uh, people realized that, uh, election was coming up and they
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realized that, uh, it was win or lose at that point.
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Yeah.
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And the trends in society that we could see were like, well, if something doesn't happen,
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Democrats are never going to lose another election because that's just the way society
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is going.
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Yeah.
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People are becoming more progressive.
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People are becoming more accepting, more opening.
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Uh, and that is what the Democratic party largely represents, especially over the Republican
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party.
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And unless a third of viable party were to exist, uh, there doesn't seem like there's
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any shot there.
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And the GOP really embraced it because they were the ones who realized that the only way
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we win elections is to lean into being the white supremacist party.
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Because if you look at that, uh, the, uh, GOP autopsy that they did on the 2012 election,
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it was all about, we need to return back to the big tent.
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We need to expand.
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We need to, uh, find more Latino voters.
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We need to do all of this stuff.
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And they took none of that advice and didn't need to and didn't need to because they gerrymandered
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the hell out of it.
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Exactly.
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And purged voter rolls, blah, blah, blah.
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They went straight to white supremacy.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, God bless him.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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No.
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God bless him because they give us something to fight back against.
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They are the Illuminati of how we grow.
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That's how we grow as people.
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So on the eighth, Alex Jones has a long interview that in genetic memory.
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That's also how it grows.
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How you learn, uh, Anthony Gucci already comes in for a really long interview about how great
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their products are and about how terrible immigrants are.
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There's they're trying to, they're, they're, they're hitting both at the same time.
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They're trying to scare people about the immigrant waves that are going to come while simultaneously,
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you know, being like, all our products are fucking awesome.
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They're spending way more time on the show trying to sell stuff like, uh, you know, we
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have these periodic visits from Dr. Group who comes in for like these hour long sessions
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and now we're seeing like Anthony Gucci already is on almost every day doing something to
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try and sell product.
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And that is not, uh, that is not unremarkable.
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It's part of the lead up to the money bomb.
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Money bomb.
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Yeah.
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In some world we exist in, it's going to ramp up and ramp up hard.
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Yeah.
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So the, uh, after that, Alex Jones has an interview with John McAfee who created McAfee
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McAfee.
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The McAfee.
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Yes.
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The guy who infects every windows computer with junkware.
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Uh, that'd be him.
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Uh, he's also the guy who may or may not have murdered his neighbor in South America.
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Wait, what?
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I don't know if this is the case.
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His neighbor wound up dead and he fled, uh, he was living down South, uh, the border.
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And, uh, his neighbor ended up dead and he was being pursued by the police for questioning.
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I don't, I don't know if he did it.
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I don't, I have no idea, but I do know that he fled and then his house burned down.
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I don't know.
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Wait, and then his house burned down?
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As I understand the timeline, yes.
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I admit I haven't done a ton of research into it, but McAfee is a wild dude.
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He's a wild dude.
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McAfee did that shit.
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I'm not ready to say that.
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That's on you, man.
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That's on you.
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McAfee is the O.J. of, uh, computer software.
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And weird goatees.
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Never seen his face.
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Uh, he has a weird goatee.
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Good for him.
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So McAfee is on and Alex is trying to get the exclusive out of him that he's running
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for president.
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John McAfee.
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And Alex is super excited about it because McAfee has a deep libertarian past and what
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have you.
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Right.
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And anybody who-
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Like a lot of those software giants too.
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Sure.
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All of those guys have a full-on, like, we're gonna build our own utopia out of Uber.
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Why not?
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If you can create a world online, why couldn't you create a world in the real world?
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That's a good point.
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So Alex is super excited about it because anyone who pays attention to Alex would make
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a great president, obviously.
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So he's trying, like, McAfee is being like, his whole storyline is, my aides, they went
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out and they filed paperwork for me to run for president.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if I'm gonna run for president.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is like, are you giving us the exclusive?
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Are you gonna announce here on Infowars that you're running for president?
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And he's like, I can give you the exclusive that they filed some papers.
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Like, fuck you, man.
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That's really not a great exclusive.
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He keeps being like, if I run, I'm gonna win.
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Well, then why don't you run?
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He didn't run and he didn't win.
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But in the middle of their interview, Alex Jones says this, and it really troubles me.
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That's why I like Ted Nugent is he's real and I know nothing against the NRA.
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They used to be really bad 10 years ago.
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Now they're really good.
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We've got to radicalize the liberty movement because we face a radical globalist threat.
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Milk toasting it won't beat it.
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I really am scared of that mentality because all of his...
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That's exactly what he did.
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Because all of his stuff is based on lies and fear.
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It's not based on reality.
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So he perceives an extreme enemy that he's up against, and therefore it's okay for him
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to radicalize his base, which is essentially what terrorists do.
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Yeah, that's exactly what terrorists do.
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I mean, the thing is ISIS has a better argument than he does for radicalizing their base.
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With stopping short of advocating anything ISIS does, looking at it purely just on a
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logic basis, their argument does make more sense.
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They're fighting a real enemy.
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Their desired goals are terrible, and those don't make sense, but the idea of fighting
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back certainly does.
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Oh, of course.
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Especially in their situation.
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And the idea of extreme measures.
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Imagine if we had a terrorist group that was fighting against an imaginary enemy.
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Without explosives, we do.
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We do.
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We absolutely do.
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It's the liberty movement.
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Yeah.
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That was radicalized partly by Alex Jones.
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Partly.
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I mean, he's the most mainstream voice of the people who radicalize them.
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Behind the scenes there are tons of those websites and shit.
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Like there's a whole Byzantine network of monsters out there, but yeah, he does.
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He's responsible for a lot of terrible shit.
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In the end of this episode we get a phone call from Old Man House Phone.
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He calls back in.
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I love me some Old Man House Phone.
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I did not pull a clip from it because it's boring, but he wants to talk to John McAfee
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about guns.
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That's fun.
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It's just important to point out whenever House Phone calls in.
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So, we move on to the tenth.
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Hold on.
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Let me back up real quick.
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I'm sorry, the ninth.
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I think I've forgotten.
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Has Rappaport showed up?
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No.
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John Rappaport is not in the mix.
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Rappaport is still not in the mix.
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Not in the mix.
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And I'll tell you, to the end of this, past the money bomb, still not there.
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Still not in the mix.
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No.
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Let's move on, Jordan, to September ninth.
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On this show, Alex Jones is very obsessed with a story out of Pittsburgh, where a gentleman,
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he runs a barber shop, and he got fined $750 for refusing to cut the hair of a lady who
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came in, because it's a dude's barber shop.
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Alex is furious about this.
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Like barber shop, like the movie barber shop, or barber shop like a white dude in a small
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town?
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Second one.
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There we go.
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I was going to say, I doubt the first one showing up on Infowars.
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No.
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He went in to the shop and they said, we are not going to get, you can't get him in here.
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And so she was like, all right, I'm going to complain about this.
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And he got fined $750.
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Alex Jones presents it as, hey, these guys just don't have the technology to cut ladies
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hair.
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You know, like they don't know how to do it.
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And there's a reasonable point to be made there.
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But if you actually look into the story, you can find that this dude is basically running
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the man show out of a barber shop and his reason for not wanting to like serve a woman
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who came in was less about, I don't know how to cut your hair and it was more predicated
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on this is where dudes go to hang out.
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He ends up calling in and they have an interview on a later show where he's like, men come
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in here to have a beer and make jokes and fart and they can't do that if ladies are
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in here.
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I'm like, you should have gotten fined.
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Yeah.
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Don't call yourself a business then.
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Call yourself a clubhouse.
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Like, right.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah.
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That mentality.
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Put your shit up in a tree, you idiot.
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What is this?
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The little rascals?
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What's happening?
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Absolutely.
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But the reason that Alex Jones has a leg to stand on in terms of his complaints is that
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he doesn't really necessarily believe that businesses should have to serve everybody.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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I believe that based on his libertarian beliefs, if pressed, he would say that a business could
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deny service to African Americans if they wanted to.
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And the free market would sort it out.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Even though it has been conclusively proven for all of time that the free market would
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not sort it out.
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And the last great example of that was, of course, Chick-fil-A.
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Yeah.
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Did not work out.
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Yeah.
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Didn't do shit.
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But that is what is behind his sort of support of this barbershop and it's super whack if
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you actually look at the details, but who cares?
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It's more interesting to me if the guy really just doesn't know how to cut ladies' hair
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and that was his excuse for it.
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Like if his defense in court was like, dude, I never actually went to school.
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I don't know how to cut this lady's hair.
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I'm just going to fuck up her hair.
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Yeah.
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Then I'd be like, oh, yeah, fair.
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I mean, that's borderline reasonable.
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But his position is not.
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No.
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So something way more important- This is only where I cut hair of dicks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Something way more important happens on the September 9th show.
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Yeah.
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That day, or the day before, Donald Trump came out and said some stuff about immigrants
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and Alex Jones has a very strong response to it and it might not be what you expect.
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We're going to go out to break with Donald Trump saying we've got to accept the immigrants.
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He tells the truth about these Arab countries and African countries won't take them, but
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he says that we've got to because we have the moral high ground.
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The whole world's collapsing into depression.
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We can't take billions of people, especially if they're put on welfare.
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This is suicide.
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Let's go to the clip.
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Well, it's a serious problem.
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We haven't seen anything like it since the Second World War and it's getting worse and
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worse.
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And I was actually impressed in one way, but surprised that Merkel in Germany allowed this
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to happen because they're really flowing through all over Europe.
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And if you notice, Russia is not taking and China is not taking and the Gulf States, whether
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you look at Saudi Arabia or Qatar or any of them, they're taking none.
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But some of them are and some of them are actually being very generous.
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It just really, I wonder, you know, where all the really Donald being generous with
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the Germans that pay some of the highest taxes in Europe or the French that pay 84% on average
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for people to come in and get put on welfare.
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I mean, you read the scams that third world immigrants run all across the place, Somalis
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up in Minnesota, Afghans in Germany.
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I mean, they just don't pay the taxes.
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They don't they do whatever they want.
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They run black market operations and they get welfare.
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And then, oh, I want to commend Merkel.
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She's so generous.
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Hey, Trump, shut your fat mouth, you punk.
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I knew you'd start flip.
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My gut told me something.
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How about you give your five billion dollars to him?
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OK.
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Holy shit.
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I'm telling you, man, he was against abortion, then he was for it, then he was against it,
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all the rest of it.
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He loves Hillary Clinton.
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Whoa.
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Wow.
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Is that intense?
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So this is this is bizarre.
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That is wild.
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Yeah.
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Alex Jones has taken an anti Donald Trump stance on September 9th, 2015.
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That's more like vitriol.
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That's more passion.
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He called him a punk.
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Yeah.
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Once you shut your fat mouth.
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Yeah.
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That's more interested.
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Like that's exactly what he said to Schiff.
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He just didn't say, fill your hand.
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Yeah.
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Goddamn cocksucker.
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Yeah.
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Well, like that is more passionate than all of the stuff he said about his mob ties.
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Absolutely.
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Like that in the past episodes we've gone over.
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That's super bizarre.
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Yeah.
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That I don't know what to make of that.
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In the moment Trump is not a white supremacist.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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How?
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What?
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Mm hmm.
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How are we still doing?
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It should be over by now.
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Totally.
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What?
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There's so many goddamn twists and turns.
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Yeah.
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So on this show after this, he has an interview with the sheriff, the guy who's he's not the
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sheriff.
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Just the sheriff like a like a Cormac McCarthy character.
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He has an interview with the judge whose eyes are burning fire.
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He has an interview with a guy who's running for sheriff in Houston.
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Okay.
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And this guy is nuts.
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He says that he thinks that Obama is creating racial strife in order to cancel the 2016
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elections.
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Uh, spoiler alert, he does not win the election for sheriff.
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Goddamn it.
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If, ah, oh man.
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If Obama had just canceled him.
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Mm.
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Mm.
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Man.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah.
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Good stuff.
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We'd have to deal with the militia uprising, but I think that would be easier.
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We'd have to get the revolution out of the way pretty quick and then just moved on.
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Band-aid coming on.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Uh, so after that, and he has an interview with Ted Nugent, the nudge calls in, he put
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up the nudge signal on the past day when he was talking to John McAfee.
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You heard that in the little clip there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's like, I was just honest.
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He's real.
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He's like, I haven't talked to the nudge in a while.
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So he gets nudge to call in and he talks about how his show on the sportsman channel has
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been canceled and it's because everybody's afraid of guns.
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Everybody's got the best ratings ever, and I don't think any of that's true.
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I think it's just a convenient way for them to play victim about the Second Amendment.
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Yeah.
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And it's very boring, so.
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Like it's hard for them to find an excuse to play victim about the Second Amendment.
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Yeah.
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Also, I would like to wonder, what is, why was Alex saying that ten years ago the NRA
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was very bad and now it's very good?
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Oh, because they weren't that extreme about the Second Amendment.
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They had gone into a period where they were sort of kowtowing to anti-gun interests and
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they'd be like, well, maybe you don't need semi-automatics.
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Maybe you're right.
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Maybe that is reasonable.
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And because of these other people, these more extreme gun groups, the NRA got molded into
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a more extreme organization.
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And Alex believes that gun people should be on the offensive.
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And actually, he has an interview later on.
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Man, hearing that sentence does not make me feel good.
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Gun people should be on the offensive is the problem with America.
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It's pretty scary.
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He later has an interview with a guy who runs a, like, Citizens for Gun Rights organization
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that Ted Nugent was involved with, and it's a little bit scary and they make some very
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false claims.
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But we'll deal with that a little bit down the road.
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So on the 9th, Alex had that thing where he called Trump a punk.
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Yeah.
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Then on the 10th, Trump backpedaled a little bit on his, man, maybe the immigrants, maybe
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we don't have to take as many.
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And Alex is like, wow, good, he's backpedaling.
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But he was just mad because he changed his mind about stuff.
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His pure anger was about the fact that he flip-flops on dumb positions.
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And he's like, I called it all along, I knew there was a reason not to trust you.
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And then whenever he changed his mind again, he's like, well, okay, now we're back on board.
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Yeah, he's backpedaling, that's good.
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It's very weird.
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Wow.
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It's super bizarre.
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That's bananas.
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So on this episode on the 10th, he has Mark Dice, he has a video where Mark Dice goes
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out to the streets and tries to get people to sign a petition to ban the sale of the
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Bible on Amazon.
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And it barns a noble.
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God damn it.
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Mark Dice is the worst.
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Yeah, but here's the thing.
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A lot of people sign it, but you can tell, again, it's a thing where they're like, fine,
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fuck, I'll just sign it, leave me alone.
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But then beyond that, based on free market, based on Alex Jones' sort of libertarian beliefs,
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you should be able to not sell the Bible.
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Yeah, if you can refuse service to a lady getting a haircut, you should be able to refuse
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selling the Bible.
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Yeah, I don't understand where the line between your belief in religious supremacism and libertarian,
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like where is the, like, what is more important to you, religious baiting or your principles,
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your phony ass principles?
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It's insane.
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So Mark Dice almost gets into a fight with a guy on the street.
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All right, now I'm in, now I'm way in.
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Some guy is, like, really mad at him because he's trying to ban the Bible, and, but again,
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it's not ban the Bible, it's just don't sell it on Amazon or at Barnes and Noble.
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Wait, so, so somebody got really mad at him.
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Yeah.
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Why did they leave it in the fucking clip?
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Because the guy gets really mad at him and he's like, no, no, no, hey, hey, look, I'm
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doing a hidden camera show.
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We're trying to point out that people are stupid for signing this, and the guy's like,
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I don't believe you, fuck off.
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And then Mark Dice chases him down and is like, no, man, no, no, no, you get it.
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Look, the camera's right over there.
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It's so desperate and sad.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it's awful.
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That's pathetic.
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Yeah, Mark Dice is the worst.
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That's really sad.
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Alex Jones tells a story about harassing a lady at the hike and bike trail because she
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had a bumper sticker he didn't approve of, which is nonsense.
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That's better than elves are we are elves.
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I'm just giving you a rundown of stuff because, like, we can't possibly cover everything.
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No, no.
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But man, that one was, that one was wild.
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It's like, I don't, I don't.
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We've already spent an hour and a half on two clips.
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I don't believe the story about harassing this lady at the hike and bike trail.
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I think it's made up, but even in his made up story, he's still a dick.
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What is he doing at the hike and bike trail?
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He's there all the time.
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What?
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He's taking his kids there all the time.
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Oh, okay.
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He tells stories about the hike and bike trail at least every third episode.
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Well, maybe he's not a terrible father.
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Maybe.
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Give him his kids back.
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When he was, he has some, he has some custody.
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When he was telling that story about the immigrants who were fishing and cooking the fish outside,
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that was at the hike and bike trail.
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That was at the hike and bike trail.
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Okay.
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He later gets an ear infection from, uh, from the hike and bike trail.
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Yeah, from the lake at the hike and bike trail.
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You miss his two days of work because of it.
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But he uses it as an opportunity to sell, uh, uh, Silver Bullet, his colloidal silver
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product.
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Oh, okay.
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Even though.
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Dude, at this point, when you say he uses it as an opportunity to sell Silver Bullet,
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I'm halfway like, does he think, does he think werewolves are real?
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He might.
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So we're, we're in the 10th, uh, and werewolves are the original chimera.
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Alex Jones has a lot of really bad stuff in the next couple of days.
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Uh, and here is one of those things.
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I tell you, you talk about a death wish, but see the, in the criminals that run Europe
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that have hijacked it can get away with this.
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They can get away with anything.
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So it's not just a fetish to smear garbage all over Europe.
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I got stacks of articles of women being pulled out of cars, rape, children being raped.
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They're like, well, that's part of the radical Islamic culture to rape your daughter says
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you see, they're kicking out of their countries.
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They're poorest, their most criminal, their most degenerate, their most mentally ill and
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a bunch of 18 year old, 20 year old troublemaker crooks and ISIS people that folks don't want
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their countries anymore.
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We have them posting on their Facebook.
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I'm here, I'm in Berlin.
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Look at me.
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I'm a jihadi.
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I fought.
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I caught a bunch of Christians heads off.
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Come hang out with me ladies and all the German women turn into trendy TV and stuff.
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I go, absolutely.
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And that's the cool thing is to get, you know, beat up by a gang banger or a, you know, have
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his name tattooed all over him and or the next best things to be slapped around and
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put in a slave pit by a radical jihadi.
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I mean, they got all these women, teenagers, all over the world getting on airplanes and
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flooding to go be in dirt shacks and raped by over a hundred men.
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Then of course they're begging for mommy and daddy after, but that doesn't happen.
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You just get taken out of the field, shot in the back of the head, but it's so liberal.
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Gloria Steinem loves it.
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And so is Rachel Maddow.
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Hey Rachel Maddow, why don't you go over there and hang out with your little jihadi pals
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that little CIA Anderson Cooper promoted in the last four years as the Arab spring run
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by the filthy White House.
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That's so close to a Dennis Miller.
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Like that's so close.
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The Arab spring is run by the White House?
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The Arab spring was run by the White House according to Alex, yes.
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Okay.
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And the CIA was behind it and Anderson Cooper has a past with the CIA.
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Yeah.
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And so he was not really over there overseas in his capacity as a CNN reporter.
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He was, I don't know, inciting the Arab spring, I guess.
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There are a couple stories that have come out of people like young white girls going
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to join ISIS in the same way that there are a couple stories that have come out of young
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white dudes who've gone over to join.
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And it generally does not end up all that well.
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No.
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There are also stories of the opposite as well.
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People going to join the actual Syrian resistance and fight against the Iraqi army.
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Or the Iraqi army.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Or even trying to come here as refugees.
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Yeah.
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Oh, crazy.
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But yeah, what he does is he takes like, again, it's these kernels, it's these like one or
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two stories that have come out and he embellishes it to be like there's thousands of young white
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girls who just want to go get beat by a Muslim because that's cool.
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These trendy women just want it.
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It's so disgusting.
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Well, there is a Pornhub channel.
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I can tell you this.
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There's not.
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There is definitely not.
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I just wanted to make you snort.
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That's bad.
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Your impulse and his.
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Both bad.
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But it has nothing on this next clip.
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Oh, no.
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This is the first of two very severe historical misrepresentations that Alex makes that we'll
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discuss on today's show.
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And I think it's probably the worst of the two.
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I'll let you decide.
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Because Hitler was a project of the elites in this country.
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I'm already out.
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I'm already out.
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And they shut Hitler up.
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Hitler was not good, by the way.
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But it's beyond what they tell you.
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Hitler was bad.
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Got it.
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Roosevelt wouldn't take the Jews because the liberal Jewish groups in New York City said
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they hadn't paid a ransom to them to get out.
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And I've had Dr. Pachinik on who was a Jew who lost family in Europe when they fled to
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Cuba.
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They fled to Cuba on a boat right after he was born because New York City wouldn't take
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them because the Jews said you didn't pay up.
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Oh, is it Andy Smith that doesn't want to kill Jews?
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I guess it is, isn't it?
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If I was a real Nazi collaborator, then it would be okay if I was Arnold Schwarzenegger
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that wears Nazi uniforms and says he wants to be Hitler.
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That's okay.
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But if I point out that the evil corrupt people like George Soros who was involved then, the
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people above him robbed the Jews and sucked off the Jews and told them you either pay
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a ransom or you go to Israel.
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And then when they said, okay, we'll go to Israel, they said still you're going to pay
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a ransom.
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The average ransom calculates out to $1 million today.
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All the poor Jews or the middle class Jews that didn't have it, they got sent to be murdered.
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And then the very Jews that helped murder them sit around and create a Holocaust narrative
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and projected on as guilt onto the American people as the national narrative, as if we
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were involved in it, as if the average American that fought Hitler or whose grandfathers fought
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Hitler was bad.
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So we have to let that same Jewish mafia that helped kill the Jews with Hitler engage in
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all these criminal activities or we're anti-Semitic?
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I say feel your hand, Nazi-loving scum, and go straight to hell where you came from.
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My friends, it is official.
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We can now say that Alex Jones is a Holocaust denier.
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Wow.
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Or at least a Holocaust revisionist.
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Un... wow.
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That's pretty wild stuff.
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Unreal.
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So if you look into it, there are a bunch, you know, like there were people who were
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able to make bribes to get themselves out of Nazi-occupied territory.
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Yeah, not to New York City Jews.
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You could get out of camps if you bribed people with a lot of money because, you know, they're
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evil but, you know, they want some money.
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Everybody's gotta get paid.
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Right.
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Alex is extrapolating that to be like, oh, it was Jewish groups who were keeping these
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poor Jews in these camps to be killed because they didn't pay up.
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That's amazing.
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Because that plays on anti-Semitic tropes.
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Yep.
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It plays on a kernel of truth in the sense that some people were able to buy their way
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out and...
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And it does play on the fact that America absolutely denied Jewish refugees.
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You know why?
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Because of the same fucking type of people who are denying Muslim refugees now.
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Alex.
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So that's why they're rewriting this goddamn history so they can't, so it's like, well,
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it wasn't us.
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We're the ones who aren't fucking bringing it.
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No, that's fucking bullshit.
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If Alex had been around in the 19 goddamn thirties, he would have screamed about how
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Jews shouldn't be allowed in there because they're Jews because they're German.
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They're German.
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They're secret Nazis.
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That fucking bullshit.
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What better way to sneak Nazis into America than for them to be Jewish?
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They play on your sympathies and then before you know it, they're here.
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They're making a little Reichs within our country.
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Even though the very fucking antisemitic beliefs that Hitler got, he got from intellectuals
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here in the 1910s and 20s.
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So this whole fucking bullshit, this whole fucking bullshit about rewriting history to
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make your team...
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Like if you're somebody now who says all lives matter, do not, do not pretend for a second
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that during the civil rights era, you wouldn't have been like, well, I get why Martin Luther
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King Jr. is angry, but I really don't like what he's saying.
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I'm pulling on the neck of my shirt because the next clip that we're going to play...
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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God damn it, Dan.
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It starts with him in the middle of a rant about all lives matter.
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No!
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God damn it!
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Fucking Christ.
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Before we get to that, I want to just tell everybody, in case you're unaware, the idea
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of Holocaust denial is much more complicated than just someone saying it didn't happen.
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There's a lot of schools of thought within the Holocaust denial community.
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There are people who believe, like, it did happen, but there weren't gas chambers.
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Or it did happen, but they were work camps.
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They weren't death camps.
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It did happen, but the reason that people died was because of malnutrition, not because
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of a concerted effort on the Nazi's part to kill the Jews.
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Or there's another branch that's just like, hey, yeah, six million Jews died, but a bunch
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of other people died, so why do we care?
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There's all these branches, and the thing that Alex is expressing is one of the branches
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of Holocaust denial.
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This is incredibly disgusting sort of thing to hear from him.
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This is, again, this is the, and I'm still pissed about this after our last episode,
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that is exactly the same shit that people will try with the alt-right versus the alt-light.
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If you are minimizing the Holocaust, you are denying it.
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That is full stop.
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You are not pretending to be more fucking intelligent or more researched than anybody
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else.
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You're denying it.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Exactly.
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You're a fucking monster equivalent to somebody saying that it didn't happen.
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Equivalent to somebody saying that it should have happened.
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You're a fucking monster.
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Full stop.
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I think that you sort of hit the nail on the head earlier, and the reason that he engages
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in this sort of thing is that there is a part of him that realizes that his mentality is
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what was the problem in our country then.
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And now.
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But be that as it may, Alex Jones does have a little thought about All Lives Matter, but
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that's not the most important part of this clip.
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It just is where he begins.
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He's ranting about All Lives Matter and how Democrats have to apologize for saying All
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Lives Matter when all lives do matter.
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But it leads to another really weird sort of religious rant that I actually think is
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much more interesting.
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But the rapture is a fraud.
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There's the battle of Armageddon.
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Christ comes back.
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The dead in Christ are raised.
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And then those living spend a thousand years with Christ here on Earth.
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That's what the Bible says.
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And they've got it that there's a teleporter machine.
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What?
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Whatever.
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Let's just say God the devil isn't real.
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For the sake of argument.
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Where is that?
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Where is that revelation that there's a teleporter machine?
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I want to be clear.
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That's not referencing something that he talked about before this clip started.
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That's I don't.
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It just came out that there is a teleporter machine.
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I don't know what that's in reference to.
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No, that's that's what he's talking about with the rapture.
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Oh.
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That's what he's saying.
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He's saying that the rapture isn't what people think it is.
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It's a fucking teleporter machine.
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That very well may be the case.
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Anyway.
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Here we go.
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Let's get back.
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Let's just say God the devil isn't real for the sake of argument.
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I'm going to fight putting fluoride in the water.
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I'm going to fight aborting babies and selling their body parts.
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And I don't care if twiddly-dee and twiddly-dumb preachers get up there on television in front
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of their crowds and follow their 501c3 and give their government script.
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Steven, finish up your points, brother.
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Thanks for holding.
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Wait.
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There's a guy on hold?
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Yeah.
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I'm going to have to leave it there as a punchline just because that's great.
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What I think is really fascinating is to look at like the preachers that he does have on
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as opposed to the preachers he complains about because he's had this guy named Pastor David
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James Manning on a bunch.
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Are you aware of that guy?
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No.
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David Manning is one of the craziest black nationalist homophobic pastors in the world.
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He runs a place called At-La Ministry in New York.
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And the most notable thing he's done recently is a couple years back, maybe a year and a
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half ago or so, he came out and said that the gay agenda is way more pervasive than
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we think.
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And what they're doing is that they're putting semen in the lattes at Starbucks.
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That's how you get the frothy milk.
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That's how you get the frothy milk.
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That makes as much sense as anything else?
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There's semen in the lattes.
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I'm pronouncing it like that because that's how he pronounces it and it's fun.
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That's the weirdest.
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It's super fun.
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There's semen in the lattes.
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Yeah.
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Because if you go into Starbucks and you get a latte, it has semen in it.
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And then you get a taste for semen.
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And then everyone goes, the gays like to eat semen and they have a lot of fun.
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So you'll associate these good times that you have with lattes with semen.
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Oh man.
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It's wild.
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But Alex has him on as a guest pretty regularly.
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Not super regularly, but at least like, I've found at least ten times he's been on.
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At least like seven.
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It's wild.
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Alright.
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No.
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I'm moving on.
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I have no opinions on that.
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Fucking.
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True.
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Untrue.
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I'm fine with both.
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I'd like to say just like, full disclosure, I used to manage a Starbucks and there's no
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semen in lattes.
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They get...
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I was just waiting for you to...
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Full disclosure, I drink a lot of semen, but just recreationally.
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Oh, of course.
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No sex involved.
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I just like, I gotta get my fix.
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You get market-produced milk and it's put into a steaming wand.
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You have a cup and the steaming wand froths the milk.
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This is how I...
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Yeah.
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It's not jizz.
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But that, like, he complains about churches all the time and yet he'll have someone like
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him on.
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It's fucking bizarre, but I mean...
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Everything.
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Everything.
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Nothing makes sense.
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Everything is bizarre right now.
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So like I told you, they're doing a lot of sales.
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They're trying to boost sales.
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Trying to get the shit out.
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And it's like every single day, there's something like this big Anthony Gucciardi appearance,
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Dr. Group coming on.
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On the 10th, they have an even bigger thing happens.
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We're gonna go to our guest, Steve Wetzel, here in just a moment who I asked to come
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on the show.
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I've been in talks with these folks.
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We're gonna spend about 10 minutes on this and then get back into the news.
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I've been in talks, well, they've been a sponsor for four years, three, four years, but I've
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been in talks for two years to do this.
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And finally, we got it all done.
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I'll be honest with you, I went out and talked to some of the other top providers and they
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just couldn't provide something as good, as as low a cost that was as high quality.
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Because I believe in treating people like I want to be treated.
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The golden rule...
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This is fucking boring.
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He launches a line of survival foods.
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He has a group called My Patriot Supply and their private labeling.
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Like an entire line of, you know, you get buckets in your house of food.
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So I mean, he's just really trying to expand what he has for people to buy.
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So I mean, it does feed into this, we need to make money.
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We need to make money fucking fast.
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So you get a little bit of a markup on this new thing.
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It's a good new revenue stream, especially when you're fucking spending all your time
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scaring people.
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So there's that.
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Also on this show, super fun to note, Alex Jones legit forgets what year 9-11 happened.
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Oh, God.
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It's 2015.
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Oh, fantastic.
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It's 2015.
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He says it's the 15th anniversary coming up of 9-11.
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And then he's like, hold on.
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Is that right?
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15th anniversary.
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He even thinks about it.
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He's like, that's it.
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That's it.
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Hold up.
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Nah, it's 15th.
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It's always just fun to remember when people forget 9-11.
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Anyway, let's get on to 9-11.
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September 11th, 2015 is the next day.
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Oh, that's right, we're actually doing a 9-11 episode.
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Forget about that.
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He doesn't talk about it almost at all.
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The 9-11 episode in 2015 is very, like, it's kind of blasé.
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Hey, let's be honest.
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It's kind of bland.
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Aren't we all a little bit done with 9-11?
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I've moved on.
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So here is something that he does have to say on 9-11.
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At a certain point, you know, seeing 2,000 people die versus the half a million civilians
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that we killed in Iraq, kind of like, you know what?
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It evens out.
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Sure.
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I think I'm good on 9-11.
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I don't think we're the good guy anymore.
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No.
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No, no, no, no.
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No.
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Oh, on 9-11, that was the day that he has the interview with the guy with the barbershop
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that we talked about earlier.
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Yes.
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He's having this interview and the guy is a sleazy seaman dude.
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He just gave me a very bad vibe.
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These dudes can't fart if ladies are around.
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I like them to fart.
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Wait, what?
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That's sort of one of his arguments.
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I have my man cave here.
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Dudes can't tell jokes and fart if women are around.
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That is legitimately, like, what his argument comes down to.
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All right.
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But more importantly, Alex has something he needs you to be really afraid about on 9-11,
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and here's that.
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They are going to turn the Middle East over to radical Islam, merge with communism.
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That's not how that works at all.
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That's the checkmate move by the New World Order and the central banks and Saudi Arabia.
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Do you understand that?
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Do you have that through your head, okay?
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And then if the states don't go along with it here in the United States, the globalists
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are going to bomb stuff and say the patriots did it, or they're going to find reasons to
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indict people, like the Texas Attorney General, I know they're trying to indict the governor
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right now, and I'm not going to get any more of that.
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I mean, do you understand?
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They got feds following the governor around all the time.
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Don't they always have feds following the governor?
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Yeah, but the governor was in trouble for some insider trading stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Illegal things.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Things that were illegal that he was doing.
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Yeah.
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Alex doesn't seem...
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He seems to think he's being targeted.
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Well, if he...
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See, that's the one thing.
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If Alex lived in Illinois, he'd be like, well, of course they're following around.
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One of our governors has probably committed so many crimes.
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So many crimes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Even our best governors have committed at least most crimes.
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Light crimes.
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But those things are things you need to be afraid of.
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The idea that they're going to do false flags, blaming the patriots, the fact that they're
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going to overthrow the Middle East and merge it with communism.
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Preemptively protecting any white nationalist crime that occurs.
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A lot of that is stuff you need to be afraid of, but Alex Jones has some more information
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that you should be more afraid of immediately.
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What's that?
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All the time right now trying to find him with a crooked toenail to throw him in jail.
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And by the way, the FBI doesn't like doing it.
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I mean, most people in the FBI are not really bad.
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They're compartmentalized, but it's so dirty now, they're just going, I cannot believe
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we're this evil.
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And I'm not going to get into my sources, folks, but I mean, I have sources...
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Donald Trump Jr.
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Not yet.
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That's the problem with my job, man, is I know so much more than I can even say because
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I can't reveal sources.
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But the reason I know they're making their move is it's bad.
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It's bad.
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They're looking at a whole bunch of governors they're going to arrest.
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They're looking at taking out people in legislatures, governments even looking at sending hit teams
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around to kill key people that aren't going to go along with this.
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And all these generals that are now telling the truth and stuff, you know they're going
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to send a hit team to kill you and your family, right?
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People say you suicided your wife and kids, so I'm going to tell the generals and everybody
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else something right now.
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You're going to preside over the destruction of America and the world sliding into a new
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dark age and you are going to end up getting locked in prison or killed probably because
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of your inaction and your cowards.
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I mean, I'm going to say it right now.
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Spoiler alert.
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None of that happened.
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That's a really, really great way to describe the GOP under Trump right now.
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How do you mean?
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Cowards?
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Like you guys, because of your inaction, are going to wind up in jail and you're like,
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oh yeah, that's probably true.
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So hit team...
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Fucking sooner or later.
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And let's be honest, now it's entirely possible that we don't make it through this whole section
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of democracy.
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Very possible.
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Now historically though, America's made it through shit.
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We've done it.
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We've done a lot.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And as much as they want to believe that once they enact the GOP agenda and they restrict
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voting rights and all of that shit, it's not like our voting rights haven't been restricted
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before.
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It's not like a large, it's not like women got the vote in 1776, you know, like that
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kind of thing.
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So if they do, if they, if they don't pull it off perfectly, sooner or later we're going
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to fucking come after them, right?
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So if, if the GOP doesn't win this a hundred percent, and it seems unlikely sooner or later,
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they're going to get fucked and they don't understand that.
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No, but we're not saying there's going to be hit teams.
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Uh, I mean, fucking are we, are we not, are we not saying that now you're now, are we
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not saying that now you're turning into Alex Jones.
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Are we not saying that?
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I'm just saying, are we not saying you got to stop Jonesing?
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That's our new thing.
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That's our new thing.
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So to get too close to Alex Jones, stop Jonesing bro.
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We're no longer, we're no longer doing the points we're doing stop Jonesing.
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Yeah.
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Um, so that, that's wild.
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That didn't happen.
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Hit teams did not take out governors or legislators.
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What kind of lunacy would occur if you, I'd like to point out for all of you listening
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who think that we're a little bit off, it's not the wine, Jordan is watching the baseball
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game on his phone.
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I am not doing that.
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Jordan has the Cubs game.
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I am just, I'm just keeping, I'm just being aware of it.
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I am just keeping awareness of it.
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I understand you're a fan.
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I, I'm far more, I'm far more angry about that.
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I seen you, if you had just said it was the wine.
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Are you sure?
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Are you sure?
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It's not because, Oh wait, we're up.
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Nevermind.
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Listen, listen.
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So on September 11th, that was one of the things he wanted to talk about, but again,
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it makes total sense.
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He wants to scare people.
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And so the idea that he has high level sources that say they're going to take out all the
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guys you like.
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Right.
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All of our Patriot guys, they're going to take them out secretly, um, that, that feeds
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into that.
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But he also has an interview with a guy named Joseph Farah.
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You're aware of Joseph Farah.
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I am not.
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Never heard of that name before.
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He is the guy who started World Net Daily and he is a dick.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say you, you said World Net Daily and I'm like, I bet he's a horrifying
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fucking person.
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He is big into the Clinton conspiracies along with our friend Larry Nichols.
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Yep.
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Uh, and then also he, uh, is super, has made a lot of public claims that Obama, his birth
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certificate is fake.
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Yeah.
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He offered to pay up $15,000 if they could prove it was real and then reneged once the
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birth certificate was revealed.
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Yeah.
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Uh, it, it, he's a, he's a dick, but he, uh, he released some information about the Clintons
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that is dubious, uh, in the past about how they wanted to silence conservative voices
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and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has him on to do an interview about, you know, the growing Clinton menace in the
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2016 election.
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And he asks Joseph Farah, uh, Hey, you've got a bunch of information.
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Why don't you release it?
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Well, you know, you have a bunch of stuff from this Clinton stash that you have very
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legitimate question.
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Now, let's see how legitimate his answer is.
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Okay.
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I agree with you.
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In closing, I want to get you back in the next few months to get into those documents
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you got.
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You said some of it was so incendiary, you had to carefully dole it out.
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When are we going to learn more about what you got from the Clinton library?
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I mean, what you released was bombshell.
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Yeah, well, it's, there's a lot of good stuff in there, but you know, when I look at it,
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I think this means something to me because I experienced it, you know, how much can I
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put out there without people thinking I'm just being self-indulgent and just being this
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doesn't matter.
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This is how they plan to shut down new media and how they, I mean, it's, it's really powerful.
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They thought of shutting down new media even before we got started, Alex, that's that they
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saw the, I have to hand it to them.
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They saw what a threat, uh, you know, we were at such an early stage in the development
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of new media.
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And so now, you know, now with guys like you and Breitbart and Drudge and the rest, uh,
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they really got their hands full and there'll be more serious than ever.
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Oh, that's a good dodge to Alex Jones's question.
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But in terms of the actual answer he gives us, I have a bunch of damning documents that
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I don't want to release because people think I'm just being sentimental or nostalgic.
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What is, no, that means self-indulgent, which I don't know what he also said, nostalgic.
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Okay.
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As Alex was talking over him, he said, I don't want to look like I'm nostalgic.
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I don't understand what that means at all.
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I think if I was going to try and give him a tiny bit of credit, I would say that what
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he means is people will think I'm trying to self-aggrandize, I'm trying to make myself
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the story about the Clintons.
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And I want to avoid that.
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It's him trying to be magnanimous and humble, but the reality is he has nothing.
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He has no information.
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Obviously, you're the fucking guy who runs and started World News, World Net Daily.
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You're on Alex Jones's show talking shit about the Clintons.
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If you had any concrete information, you would pony that motherfucking shit up.
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Frankly, even if you had no concrete information, you would make something up.
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Right.
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Why is he pretending?
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Because you want to have the MacGuffin.
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You want to have this idea of this possible thing, this magic thing that's in a box.
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It's the same thing with what's on the server.
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It's the same thing.
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Whatever it creates in your mind is way more potent than what the reality is.
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It's the same reason, like, I've been putting out these, I made an archive of the episodes
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of That's What They Want You To Think, me and Marty's conspiracy theory show.
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Yeah.
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Nice plug.
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Thanks.
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We did one episode about a group called the Hellfire Club.
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I don't know if you're aware of them.
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Not at all.
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They're a secret society that existed way in the past.
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There's a guy named Sir Francis Dashwood, and I just love their names.
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They're great.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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Of course I know who the Hellfire Club is.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So they had this secret society, and most of it really was just debauchery.
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It was fucking.
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It was drinking and fucking and saying things that God doesn't want you to say, and making
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paintings of themselves as saints.
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Sodomy was involved.
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Yeah, probably a lot of butt-fucking.
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But the idea that they had was they created secrecy intentionally.
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They had this methodology wherein they would publicly talk about how secret their society
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was.
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And because they would do that, there was a mystique to what they did.
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And everyone thought they were doing way more important shit than they were actually doing.
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They were drinking and fucking.
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They were committing sacrilege, perhaps, but it wasn't to any larger goal.
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But because they would be like, ask me about the Hellfire Club.
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Hey, Dan, have you been to the Hellfire Club?
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Man, I haven't, but I hear they're really up to some weird shit in there, but no one
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talks about what goes on there.
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Nobody talks about it?
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No.
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But, like, do you know?
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I have no idea.
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I've heard some fables.
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Fables?
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Fables?
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Yeah.
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Did Aesop write about the Hellfire Club?
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Moving on.
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That roleplay didn't work out.
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But you understand what I'm saying?
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None of our roleplays have ever worked out.
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We've never taken improv classes.
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No.
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But you understand what I'm saying?
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No, absolutely.
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Joseph Farah's playing the same game.
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This mystique, like, I don't want to release this stuff because your mind will be like,
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oh, it's got to be the most damning stuff.
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He's not putting it up.
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Maybe it's dangerous.
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Yeah.
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I think what had the best representation of that, I think, is in one of his, I think it
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was the long, dark tea time of the soul, he had a famous author who would famously have
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a bunch of chickens taken into his hotel room every night and nobody knows what they were
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for.
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Yeah.
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And then later on he was like, well, yeah, he just had them brought in and had them smuggled
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out with nobody knowing because it created that sense of, what the fuck is this guy doing?
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Like that kind of thing.
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How many weird celebrities play that same game today?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So Joseph Farah is playing the same game, but it's unfortunately way more damaging because
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what it creates is part of that vast right wing conspiracy.
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Of course.
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That Hillary Clinton so accurately complained about.
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So.
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Oh, poor Hillary.
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Oh, poor Hillary.
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Poor, well, actually poor all of us.
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Yeah.
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And let's be clear, we're not like sitting here saying that she's the greatest.
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No.
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That's not our game.
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Yeah.
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That's like us.
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Like, I, the thing I think about whenever we talk about the election is a lot of what's
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going on with Emmanuel Macron right now in France.
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Like he's way better than, uh, once or fuck.
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Le Pen.
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Yeah.
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Then Le Pen.
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Right.
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But he's still acting like he's a king, you know?
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Yeah.
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Like he's not, he's not doing good.
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He, he sucks in a lot of ways, but Le Pen would have been so much worse.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And like our, our, our, it seems like our world now exists in the extreme far right.
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Yeah.
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And then people who are center right.
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Neoliberalism.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Which is.
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Which sucks.
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Like, hey, how about progressives?
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Like I, I, this is a thing that I thought about.
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But dude, if you think about it, that is the way that a lot of conservatives felt before
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the tea party really got going is that like the center was liberal and then the extra,
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you know what I'm saying?
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Like the Republicans were coming to the center and then the Democrats were straight up socialists.
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Yeah.
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And so they launched this hard right thing and they have moved it super far to the right.
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So far right.
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And maybe, I don't know, I don't know how I feel entirely about the blossoming internet
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socialism that's been going on lately.
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I need to look into it a little more before I, before I speak on it, but it's possible
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that that will become its own sort of a new version on the left of the tea party and swing
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things back.
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But unfortunately what will happen then is it won't readjust to the middle.
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It will swing the other way and then there'll be an even more extreme response from the
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militias on the right and then eventually we'll all kill each other.
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There is, there is the, for every action there is an equal and opposite.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Which kind of sucks.
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Dead silence for the next 10 minutes.
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Let's get introspective.
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So speaking of things that suck, this next clip from Alex is one of the most woefully
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misogynistic things he's ever had to say.
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And that's saying a lot.
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Oh God.
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But I just illustrate how serious this is.
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You know, I mentioned this article, feminists claim it's sexist to complain.
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See, I think it's sexist for her to complain out of 40 and slip.
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Biologists claim it's sexist to compliment women, feminazi to use the Rush Limbaugh term
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publicly.
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Uh, just real quick, let's, let's tell the story about what happened.
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What there was a lady, there was a lady who on LinkedIn, uh, had a guy sent her a message,
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uh, that was basically like, Hey, I'd like to get in touch with you.
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Also, I got to say this might not be politically correct, but you've got the best picture on
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LinkedIn.
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All right.
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And so her response was, I come here, this is a professional networking site.
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I do not want to be judged by my appearance, especially by someone twice my age, this whole
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sort of thing.
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And then there was a massive backlash against her.
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Everyone started calling her a cunt.
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Uh, she started getting tons of death and rape threats over social media.
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She was inundated with so much abuse just from standing up for herself.
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I don't think that I read the messages that were sent, uh, they're posted.
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You can read, there's a Guardian article about it.
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I don't think that she said anything that was like, Hey, fuck you, man.
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Right.
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It was more corrective than anything else.
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It's like, Hey, don't fucking, I'm a, I'm a person.
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This is not a place for you to try and pick me up.
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I've, I've had that so many times at shows where, um, afterwards if it's me and a, uh,
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well actually this just happened recently.
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Uh, Kristen Lundberg, uh, uh, comic in Chicago.
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Um, she and I did a show together and one of the guys on the show afterwards came up
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to her and was like, man, whenever you pulled out that violin, you were so sexy.
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There are compliments about comedy.
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Yeah.
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You don't need, what is that?
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It's what the fuck is that?
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It's very weird.
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And the reason that like she, you were very funny instead of fucking like, that's exactly
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what that is.
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Like, are you good at your job?
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But the reason that she brought it up and I think, you know, the conversation that's
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been had that a lot of dudes aren't listening to is that these sexualizing and eroticizing
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compliments, especially in non romantic contexts, what it does is it's a way of exerting power
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over women.
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Yeah.
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It's a way of taking away their, uh, agency and their ability.
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And that's the point that she was making and she's totally right.
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Now let's hear Alex discuss it.
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Oh no.
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Shame's man.
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I don't want to know.
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For complimenting her.
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I don't want to know.
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Stop.
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Mic down.
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And now in the London Telegraph today, lawyer who accused barrister of sexism, the same
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woman has described men online as hot stuff.
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Ooh, a thought crime there.
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I mean, a mammal will be attracted to the opposite sex.
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That's not a crime.
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Having the name he or she or boy or girl, it's not bad to be he or she.
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See, I mean, this is how freakish this is getting.
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A lawyer who accused a fellow barrister of sexism in England after he described LinkedIn
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profile as stunning and previously praised men for their physical appearance online telling
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them they are hot stuff that she just chose to do this and the feminist groups said, good
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name him and shaming to get her stars in bars.
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Charlotte proud man, 27 said she felt objectified.
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Oh, oh, that's why you had your hair all done up and stuff on there after receiving an online
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message from Alexander Carter, 57.
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She had invited to connect on the professional networking site, so she invited him to connect.
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He said, wow, I love your photo.
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It's stunning.
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How dare him?
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I mean, I'll be sitting there and there's an old lady checking me out of the Dillard's
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or something about a shirt and she's got a cool watch or something.
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I don't say it if I don't like it.
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I know that's a really nice watch or your hair really looks nice.
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I mean, does my dad does, uh, I see a guy get, you know, uh, on an elevator with me
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with a cool sports jacket or a cool Rolex or cool, uh, bag.
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I'll say, man, that's really cool.
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I'm just being nice.
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Plus I like it.
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This is sick telling us that our very communication's bad, but it is a smaller and smaller boxes,
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but it's all selectively enforced.
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If you want to have liberal Hollywood, sexism, sex stuff, debauchery, torture, murder, and
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it's okay.
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You can have kids play violent video games all day, but if they go to school and write
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an essay about the Marines and mention him to 16 here come the police.
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He wrote, I appreciate this, that this is probably horrendously politically incorrect,
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but that is a stunning picture.
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Oh, he even admitted it was politically incorrect, even prostrated himself before that.
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I'm so sorry.
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It's politically correct, incorrect, and that's signaled her like a bug-eyed Burana to come
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in and go after him to see they pack members of the cult even more.
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I'll be, you know, what I found is these women that are fake feminist, I've talked a lot
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of guys about this, like democratic party, operative women and stuff actually want to
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be debased and want to be called pigs and stuff, and so the problem was he groveled
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to her.
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I'm not staying with her, but that's what I would imagine.
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He just said, hey, you pussy.
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It's time for us to get together right now, he's been partying that night, brother.
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Holy shit.
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Holy shit.
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That end is crazy.
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If he had just fucking outright sexually harassed her as opposed to couched his sexual harassment
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in polite language, he would have been fucking on LinkedIn.
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That's so fucking awful.
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That interpretation is wild.
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I don't, how can you not understand that?
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How can you not understand that the context of his, look, I want to fuck.
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But that's not why I would hire someone.
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That's not why I would be on LinkedIn.
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Yeah.
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What's wrong with you if you're like, hey, look at this sexy attractive woman.
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That's great, so long as you're not being a creep, so long as you're not pulling them
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off the street, so long as you're catcalling, so long as it's within the context that makes
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sense and is accepted by both sides.
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But the idea that you should do that in a professional circumstance is so, it's bizarre.
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So, also, but the reason that he thinks he's in sort of safe harbor to critique her and
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call her like a wild, out of control, feminazi, blah, blah, blah, is that he said at the beginning
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of that that she'd called men sexy and hot stuff online.
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Yeah, like that's exactly fucking, fucking, fuck, come on.
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If you look into that, the circumstances are she commented sexy on her friend's photos
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on Facebook.
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No fucking.
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Which is completely different.
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Very, very different.
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It's so stupid.
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That's congratulatory.
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He knows, he knows that people aren't going to look into it.
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He knows that his audience is already predisposed to these anti-feminist, chauvinist mentalities
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because he knows that his fucking audience is all dudes.
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But that's like, that's just like whenever they show the, or the little headlines, stuff
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like that, where it's like, oh, a former convict murdered by the cops instead of father of
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two.
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No, it's even worse.
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But when it's a white person, it's father of three.
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There were two examples within the last week that were really illustrative of that.
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Oh yeah.
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There was the one where a guy pulled someone out of a burning car and they said ex-felon
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saved, instead of going to a job interview, saved someone from a burning car.
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Why the fuck do you have to bring up that he's a fucking felon in the headline?
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No.
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And then the other one was that there was a lady who sent ricin to President Obama and
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they used her headshot.
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Former actress.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So.
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Fucking unbelievable.
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Or just, just the way that the white lady shot, the Australian white lady shot by the
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cops is treated so differently.
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And the chief of police.
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The police chief resigned.
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She didn't get fired.
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She resigned.
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Yeah.
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Over it.
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Un-fucking-believable.
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It's all, it's like if it weren't so tragic and, you know, a sign of what our society's
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up to, it would be comical.
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Like the actual elements of it are farce.
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But be that as it may, that's kind of where we leave off September 11th, 2015.
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Not a whole lot of talk about September 11th.
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Never forget.
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Really.
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He has an interview with our favorite homophobic pastor, Chuck Baldwin.
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He is the guy who said that no civilization that has officially endorsed homosexuality
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has ever survived.
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Oh, that's true.
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He goes on to say a bunch more homophobic stuff, and they scream about how Christianity
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is responsible for saving people from slavery, all sorts of, you know, everything that's
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good that's ever happened is Christianity.
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Everything that's good that's ever happened is Christian.
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Even when Christians did bad stuff, well, that's because they weren't Christians.
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Yeah.
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So.
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They were doing bad stuff.
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So that was on the 11th, and then.
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It's as if, regardless of your religion, people are capable of doing good and bad.
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Yeah.
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So the 11th is a Friday.
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Then, over the weekend, Alex Jones goes to the hike and bike trail and jumps into the
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lake and ends up with an ear infection.
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So he's gone on Sunday, David Knight hosts on the 13th.
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David Knight hosts again on the 14th.
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So he can skip past those, and we get back to the 15th.
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And it's weird, because he ended the 11th show talking about how Christianity has done
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everything great for civilization.
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And he comes back on the 15th, and he wants to talk a whole bunch about West.
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The West.
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God damn it.
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And it's very similar stuff, but instead of religion, it's based in the West.
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And I would posit, he does not have a good handle on history.
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But we can discuss that on the 11th.
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Oh, oh, did we just discover that now?
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We can discuss that on the other end of this book.
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All I've been taught my whole life was how evil the West was.
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How inherently bad white people were.
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And then I studied history from even foreign perspectives, and it's just not true.
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And why the West is great, and why I say it's the best, on average, some cultures are better
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than other things for whatever manifestation, whatever manifest destiny reason.
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Just like different breeds of dogs behave differently and have different attributes.
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White dogs are better.
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The West has been the great innovator.
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The great builders, the great scientists.
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Now much of the ideas of the West has come from the East, come from the South, come from
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even older cultures.
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But for whatever reason, many of those cultures fell before and never rose back up.
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And the West, the Romans particularly, were great innovators at grabbing other cultures
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and using it.
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When other cultures tended to not innovate, they intended to invent things, but then not
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innovate off of that.
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I don't know what that means.
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On average.
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I do.
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And so it was the West that was the melting pot.
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It was the West, early on, that actually wasn't racist and sectarian like some of the other
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groups.
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Now the West became like that later.
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Sure.
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So I have a lot of historical thoughts, but first is...
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Where do we start with his bullshit there?
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I'll try and work backwards.
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I want to start at the beginning, all right?
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Go ahead.
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The idea that...
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First there was God.
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The idea that...
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Then he created the stars and the...
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Okay.
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The idea that old-time West civilizations weren't racist is patently absurd.
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I haven't studied Rome all that much, but I've studied Greece extensively.
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It's a big part of my college education.
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And one of the things, just a great example that's very easy for people to analyze and
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understand is that, you know the word barbarian?
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You know where it comes from?
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No.
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It comes from the Greek.
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Barbary.
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Barbaros, which is a term for people outside invading because they thought that everybody
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who didn't...
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Do you mean immigrants?
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Yeah, they did.
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They thought, well, they had a really interesting idea about having to take people into your
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home.
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Strangers, they had like a...
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They had a neighbor.
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Yeah.
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They had a very complicated thing with actual people, but big groups, they would...
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Barbarian comes from barbar.
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They thought that everyone just said barbar.
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They didn't respect anyone else's language or any culture.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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It was like woof woof.
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It was just an onomatopoeia kind of thing.
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Those who say barbar became barbarians.
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Okay.
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And that's where the word comes from to this day.
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That's really fascinating.
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There's tons of stuff like that throughout the history of Greece and Rome.
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They were very terrible with other cultures and civilizations.
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Right.
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Secondly, the idea that Rome was like this great innovator that took things from other
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cultures and then made it better, they conquered everybody.
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They just took things.
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They killed everybody.
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They took things.
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Yeah.
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You know what else they took?
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Their land.
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They took over everything.
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They were an empire.
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Yeah.
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They were a complete empire.
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So then, the idea that the West is the great innovators, I would just have pulled up a
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list of Chinese inventions, paper, printing, movable type, gunpowder, compass, alcoholic
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beverages, bells, wooden coffins, daggers, lacquer, millet cultivation, noodles, rowing
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ores, plowshares, pottery, pottery urns, the ability to cultivate rice, soybean cultivation,
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acupuncture, banknotes.
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You know what?
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We can stop at acupuncture.
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Belts.
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I think you should have just stopped right before acupuncture, actually.
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Belts.
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Bombs.
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Blast furnaces.
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Bristle toothbrushes.
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Cast iron.
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So what you're saying is that it is directly the Chinese fault for the Holocaust.
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I think the Chinese cause the Holocaust.
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Most types of drill, color printing, crossbows, dominoes.
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The thing that drives me insane, before I get, I think everybody gets your point.
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Fire lands.
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I think everybody gets your point.
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Fireworks.
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Fishing reels.
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I think everybody gets your point.
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Flame throwers.
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I think zero people have not gotten your point at this point.
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Fragmentation bombs.
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Wait, why are we proud of fragmentation bombs?
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I don't know.
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Hey, let's talk about India and what they've invented.
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In the third millennium BC, the Indians invented a flushing toilet.
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They invented a fucking flushing toilet.
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The Indians invented the ruler.
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They invented the weighing scale.
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They invented all sorts of ways to fuck with metal.
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The Indians invented the plow that was used to- I think I understand what it was he was
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talking about when he said he didn't want to reveal Hillary Clinton's information because
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it was self-indulgent.
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Shampoo.
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The Indians invented shampoo.
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The word is based on an Indian word.
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They invented tons of games that we use.
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Shoots and ladders is based on an Indian game called Snakes and Ladders.
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Well then I will never forgive them.
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No, no, so here's the thing that I hear though- The Indians invented indigo dye.
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All right, I'm done.
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That's actually pretty amazing.
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Although that is the cheapest dye.
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So I wear blue jeans.
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You and I both listen to that episode of Dala.
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Exactly.
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All right.
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Yes.
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The Knowledge Fight, the podcast that references other podcasts.
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We've gone too so far into this episode.
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But here's the bigger thing that he just misses entirely.
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You pointed out, look at all of these inventions in China and India.
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And then he talks about the West being Rome and all of those places.
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Who the fuck was right in the middle?
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Who the fuck put together all of these things?
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He says the West was the melting pot?
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That is unbelievable bullshit.
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Like the Silk Road began and end in the middle.
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It didn't start on the West or the East.
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It was right there in the fucking middle, in the Middle East.
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It was those civilizations that came from Iraq.
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Those places were the ones that made us all what we are.
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And the fact that he pretends that it's the East or the West boggles my mind.
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That is a complete misrepresentation of all of history.
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And we don't have fucking time to go through all of the Middle Eastern countries and their
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innovation.
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Just start with zero.
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The number zero.
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Or Africa, the things that have come out of Africa or South America.
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All the world's cultures have had innovation within them.
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All the world's cultures have brought us amazing things that we use.
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And the most-
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It's fucking absurd.
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The important part is that the areas where they all met, the areas where everybody mixed,
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that's where things got a lot better and a lot more interesting a lot faster.
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Everywhere where it's isolated, everywhere.
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When you're talking about Africa, especially in the historical context, generally people
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wind up talking about Egypt.
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Those central parts of Africa-
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Because it had access.
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Exactly.
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Where you can still see indigenous people today, they are so isolated that they never
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wound up interacting with all of this insane stuff.
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Because they weren't in the North and they weren't close to other-
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Yep.
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And they didn't have ports.
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Yeah.
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Like Egypt had ports.
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Exactly.
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So you had people that came in boats from far off lands and had to go through them in
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order to do anything.
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Exactly.
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The idea of the West-
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That's how the Library of Alexandria got so big and then burned down.
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The idea of isolation is the idea of completely removing any innovation or invention or anything
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like that.
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Nationalism.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's a great plan.
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If you want the world to die, nationalism is the way you do it.
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All right.
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So I mean, Alex has a lot of really fucked up views about the West and he's wrong about
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most of them, as we've discussed.
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But get this.
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This next clip is super bizarre.
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We know Alex Jones as a man who's primarily against tyranny.
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That is what he's afraid of.
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Theoretically primarily against tyranny.
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Well, based on his words.
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His sort of world conception is that the liberals are not really liberals.
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They want to push socialism, which will lead to communism, which will lead to a totalitarian
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regime tyranny.
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That is his big fear.
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He doesn't understand how much fewer steps it takes to get to tyranny.
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We're there.
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We're way past it.
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We're real close.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But he has this like, that is what has driven his career.
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Now, as I talked about at the beginning of this episode, there's also that weird pseudo-spiritual
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shit that's going on in the background, but in terms of what he's really willing to present
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as his overarching theme, it's a fight against tyranny.
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That is how he sort of presents himself all the time.
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This next clip is super fucked up when you keep that in mind.
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The globalists do not want you to be perceptive.
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They do not want you to be powerful.
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They do not want you to be free.
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They are incredible enslavers.
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And all I know is they're not good.
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They claim they're engaging in all this tyranny to bring in a total control system to protect
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the earth from wars and factions killing each other.
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That's not right.
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I'll be honest with you.
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If there was a quasi-tyranny, I'm just going to be totally honest from now on, that had
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good friends and empowered individuals, but went and shut down really bad people, I would
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say it was a lesser of evils, very dangerous, might become the ultimate tyranny down the
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road, but I wouldn't fight it to the point of putting my full will against it to where
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I try to force his hand against me.
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What the fuck does that mean?
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What he just said is tyranny is cool as long as it's on my side.
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As long as it's the right kind of tyranny.
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As long as it's on my side.
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Right.
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That's incredibly fucked up.
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That should invalidate most of his beliefs.
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That should invalidate everything.
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That means he has no principles, he's just on a team.
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It's just that his team is weird.
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His team is not the republicans necessarily, it's not even libertarians, it's anti-government
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weird constitutionalists.
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That really is one of those things where you do point back, like, I shit all over the founding
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congresses, I refuse to call them the founding fathers.
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That's fucking annoying.
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It's patriarchal.
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Fucking annoying.
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Not patriarchal, just very...
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It's like saying the...
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Call them the founding daddies.
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It's like saying the Pledge of Allegiance, it's super weird, just in a gross way.
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But the Framers of the Constitution, I don't know why that's better for me.
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It doesn't have fathers in the name.
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The guys who jerked off onto paper and made it words.
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Sure.
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They did an ooky cookie with the paper.
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I am trying so hard to get to a point.
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Which you are failing at.
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Awful.
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The one thing that I do give them is that all of those guys really did come from it
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from different angles.
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Like there were, in general, the same concept of Republicans and Democrats that we have
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now.
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Well, it's flipped, but there were a bunch of times that there were liberal and conservative
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folk.
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Yes, progressive and conservative.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, Jefferson and Washington had incredibly different perspectives.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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And they disagreed with each other loud and hard.
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But at the end of the day, all of them were against kings.
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Yeah.
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Tyranny.
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They didn't fucking throw everything.
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You guys want taxes?
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I hate taxes.
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But no fucking kings.
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Like they all agreed on that.
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And you know what else they would not be thrilled with?
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Quasi-kings.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm cool with quasi-tyranny.
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Maybe it turns into tyranny down the road.
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But right now it's quasi-tyranny.
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And it might be the most dangerous thing ever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What is that?
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No.
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That is the one thing that you can point to with our overarching idea of the overarching
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idea of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is no kings.
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And right now we have a political party that is for kings.
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Well, I mean, you look at it.
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Well, and probably 40% of the other party is, like the way that we've expanded executive
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powers is beyond reason, especially under Obama.
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Totally.
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Now that was maybe in response to the fact that we had the most obstructive Congress
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in history.
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And so the only way to actually get anything done is for Obama to be like, fuck it, I'm
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doing it.
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And the largest financial crisis in recorded, not recorded history, but in recent memory.
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Definitely not recorded history.
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No, but in recent memory.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And a bunch of wars and the fact that our healthcare system was in desperate need of
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something.
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Yeah.
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There's a whole list of reasons why it happened.
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It's not good, though.
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But that's how you get tyranny.
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Right.
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And a whole bunch of crises come together and people fuck up along the way.
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And once Trump gets away with everything that he's been doing, we'll be 100% there.
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He has, he will and has gotten away with everything.
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Yep.
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And Alex will cheerlead all the way.
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So also a couple more points about this September 15th episode before we get to more clips.
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It opened with a Jon Bound report that was about how Assad is a real cool dude doing
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a great job in Syria.
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All he's doing is fighting ISIS.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Nonsense.
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Fighting ISIS.
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Also, I realized why so many episodes start with a Jon Bound report.
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And that is because the radio stations start at six of the hour.
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The shows start at six after.
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They have their commercials and station identification or what have you.
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And so almost every episode of the show now starts with a Jon Bound report.
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And I'm like, why is he on every fucking day?
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These reports are terrible.
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And it's just because he got to fill time until the stations actually pick up the show.
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So yeah, they're doing more pro Assad stuff, more pro Russia business.
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Then being pro Assad is such a, such a perfect bellwether of whether or not you should kill
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yourself.
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Yeah.
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Like if you're pro Assad, just fucking die now.
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I'm okay with that.
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Alex is super mad about a story that he read about LA trying to call themselves the capital
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of Latin America.
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Uh, well, you know why they did that?
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It was a desperate sales pitch to try and get the Olympics.
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I was going to say, I'm sorry, the world cup, they were trying to get the world cup to come
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to LA and it was part of a PR campaign talking about how, uh, you know, North America is
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one and you know, they are the capital of Latin America and Alex is like, no, it's just
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about the North American union coming together.
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This is them coming out into the open globalist.
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No, they wanted to make a ton of money in Los Angeles by, well, in regards to the world
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cup, a very small amount of people wanted to make a very large amount of money and fuck
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over everybody.
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And thankfully that didn't happen.
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Yeah.
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But although they will probably get the Olympics, so they'll be fucking us over in some way.
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And that's why I, that's why I had that brain fart calling at the Olympics.
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But be that as it may, uh, we need to check in Alex, like I said, in that, uh, a couple
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of, a couple of days back called Trump a punk, called him, told him to shut his fat mouth.
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And then the next day Trump backpedaled, Trump backpedaled and Alex softened.
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So now we've got to check in Alex Jones on this 15th of September has some thoughts about
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Trump.
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Here's where we're at.
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When I get mad at Rand Paul and say he should be more aggressive and sound more like Trump
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because I love Rand Paul, I know he's for real.
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I support him.
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I want him to win.
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I trust him, but I know he's listening to more milk toast political advisors that say
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that Trump's going to get destroyed in a general election because he's too extreme.
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He's not extreme.
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I don't know if I trust Trump or not.
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I don't know him, but I do know what he's saying is true.
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And that's why he's so popular.
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We're back to where we started.
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Of course we have made no progress.
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None.
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He went.
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It just went back.
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Back.
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Back.
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Yeah.
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It just.
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There is there is a will they won't they thing going on.
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And the baseline is I like what he's saying, but I don't trust him.
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I think his real problem so far seems to be that Rand Paul actually believes in what Alex
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Jones says he believes and Alex Jones doesn't actually believe in what he says he believes.
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That might be part of the tension.
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Like that's what it seems to me like.
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And I think Rand Paul's a little smarter than Alex.
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Rand Paul is so much smarter than Alex.
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But in terms of knowing like what is possible, what isn't possible, I think Rand Paul's also
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a fucking dick.
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Absolutely.
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I think he's a disaster.
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He seems to be an ideologically consistent dick, which is something that we cannot say
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about Alex.
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No.
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He just said he's cool with partial tyranny.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Alex is nonsense.
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It's a complete mess.
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So.
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Alex is the wind.
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He blows wherever it may.
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On this episode, he has that interview with the guy from the Citizens for Guns or whatever.
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I can't remember the name of the organization.
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And I'll tell you this.
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Citizens for Guns.
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It's not important.
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That might as well be.
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Might as well be the name.
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Yeah.
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It's just a guy who's super into guns.
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And he has a terrible Skype.
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He's just sitting in a room doing this interview with Alex.
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And they end up having this conversation.
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This is the second instance of complete historical revisionism.
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I think it's slightly less offensive than the Holocaust denial that Alex engaged in
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previously, but it is just as whack.
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Federal government, you can go here and no farther.
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And if you try, then the Second Amendment comes into play.
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To put it a little bit more crudely, we'll point our guns at you if you try to act tyrannically.
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And that's in the Declaration of Independence, in the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights.
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The war started over them coming to take the guns.
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It doesn't matter how many quack professors they pay from Bloomberg to write books claiming
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it wasn't about guns.
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It was all about self-defense.
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It's always about self-defense.
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It's always about being free.
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The Revolutionary War was about guns.
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Yeah.
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The UK.
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That's obvious.
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Okay.
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Who has not read history?
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Alex.
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Don't you remember in 1776 when they wrote the Declaration of Independence, they were
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like, guns!
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That's why it was the Second Amendment.
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Yeah, I think that there were more issues about taxation, certainly.
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Alex loves to bring up tariffs when he talks about the Civil War.
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This one might be more appropriate.
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There was that.
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There was the lack of recourse.
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There was a lack of redress of grievances.
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There was no representation.
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Those sorts of issues seem to be more important.
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I know that the tea party, the Boston Tea Party, was not about guns.
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I know that.
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Hmm.
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Maybe it was.
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What else you got?
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Maybe it was.
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What else you got?
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Maybe they were throwing...
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Give me six more examples.
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I don't need to.
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Alex has no examples.
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None.
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I mean...
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It's just an assertion.
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It's just an assertion that the Revolutionary War was about guns.
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What?
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I mean, what do you say to a person who believes that?
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What do you say to somebody who believes that the Civil War was about states' rights or
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tariffs?
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What words are possible?
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I think that there's a way, though, to...
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Tariffs, no.
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That's not true.
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But I think there is a way to look back on what happened in the course of the Civil War
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and rewrite it reasonably with the states' rights.
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It's not what was going on then.
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This is gonna be a dangerous argument for me to make.
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This is already dangerous territory.
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I think that in hindsight, you can make the argument that what they were trying to argue
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was states' rights.
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That we should be able to decide whatever is legal in our state, federal government,
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get out, whatever.
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Uh-huh.
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Like, I think you can do that.
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You can't use what they were saying back then to make your argument, because it's not true.
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It's clearly about slavery.
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But you could do that.
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I don't think you can do that with the Revolutionary War being about guns.
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Absolutely not.
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Because I don't think that...
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Do you know what...
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I don't think the primary disagreement between the British and us was gun ownership.
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Do you know what the primary disagreement that is a through line between the Revolutionary
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War and the Civil War?
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What's that?
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Rich people are fucking us over.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's what the argument has been.
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That's what the argument has always been.
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And in the Revolutionary War, it was the rich British are fucking us over.
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Yep.
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And the Civil War...
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It was the rich Southerners are fucking us over.
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Yeah.
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It was the rich...
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The rich people are...
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Okay, and I don't want to pull out a...
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And the Southerners were rich because they were enslaving people.
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Exactly.
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And it wasn't even the Southerners.
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It was a very small number of Southerners.
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And then it was racism.
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It was the propaganda that they'd been fed the whole time about how black people aren't
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even really people.
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It is always...
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And I'm not gonna pull a hardcore socialist argument out.
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I am just going to point out the same thing that has always been true, that it's a rich
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man's war and a poor man's fight.
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Rich people always wind up fucking fine.
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They always wind up winning, regardless of who wins.
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Oh, fuck, fucking fuck.
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Fuck you.
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They're smart.
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They're fucking insane.
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I mean smart in terms of cunning, in terms of an evil ability to, no matter what the
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outcome, I'm gonna benefit from it.
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They're privy to more information than everybody else.
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They're not smart.
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It's like insider training.
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It's not like they're brilliant.
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It's that they know a day...
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The guys who voted on the healthcare bill were like, okay, well, we're gonna invest
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in the same day on companies that stand to profit from this exact vote.
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It's not that they're smarter than us.
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It's that they're fucking us over.
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But it's manipulating a system that we allow to continue.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So Jordan.
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Yes.
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Before September 15th, something really fucked up happened.
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September 14th, Donald Trump had a rally in Texas, and Joe Biggs went to the rally.
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Oh, I bet he has some insider information we would never have found out without him.
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Now, I have a couple clips from Joe Biggs reporting about going to the Trump rally that
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I think bring into sharp focus the moment when Alex Jones realized Trump's the way to
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go.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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No shit.
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Now, I'm not entirely sure about this, and Alex doesn't give a lot of indications that
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I'm correct, but I will make my argument over the course of the next three or four clips.
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Two or three hours, basically, is what you just said.
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No, we got way more than that.
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Here is the first clip of Joe Biggs reporting about going to the Trump rally.
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And again, it is not what you'd expect.
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Gotta get to the Trump situation.
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So you're up there for Lord Trump-ish.
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What happened?
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I went in there with an open mind, you know?
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He says a lot of good things out there, you know?
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He's definitely a crowd pleaser, and I wrote down on this piece of paper that he was lackluster.
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He's lackluster in the sense that he's not motivated or convicted in a sense when it
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comes to the issues at hand.
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Issues that a presidential candidate should be, you know, have conviction in, have knowledge
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in.
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When he's asked certain questions about these issues, he doesn't have a really good answer.
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He doesn't know what he's doing.
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Because he doesn't know what they fucking are!
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They're kind of reminding me of Rodney Dangerfield with these one-liners, like, hey, we got a
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border problem, huh?
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What are we going to do about it?
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Let's build a wall.
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All right, so what is a wall going to do?
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All he does is he brings problems to the table without a solution.
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And that's what I heard last night, a whole lot of problems being brought to the table
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without him giving any kind of clear path to how he was going to give a solution to
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these issues.
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We know a wall won't work contiguously.
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What really works is prosecuting people that hire illegals.
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So at this point, Joe Biggs is doing slightly reasonable reporting.
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That actually sounds pretty reasonable.
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And I'm going to get into this next clip, but that's the beginning of the two of them
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kind of advocating for reasonable, moderate immigration reform.
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And Trump, er, Jones saying that a wall won't work is mind-boggling.
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When months later, he's screaming about a wall.
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We need a wall.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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No.
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A wall is the most important thing.
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Yeah.
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Guatemala, there's a wall on the border of Guatemala and Mexico.
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Which there isn't.
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He even has, later, like a couple days past this, he has an interview with Jesse Ventura.
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And Jesse Ventura lives in Mexico, and he's like, what about the wall between Mexico and
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Guatemala?
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And he's like, I don't know if that exists.
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It doesn't.
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It 100% doesn't.
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Of course not.
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He's like, I've never been down there.
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I don't know.
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Like, well, they're also looking into it.
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It doesn't exist.
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The last wall that was similar to the one that Trump proposes was the Berlin Wall.
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Which Jesse Ventura also brings up a bunch, and he's great for it.
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But at this point, like, Joe Biggs is making sense.
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He's absolutely making sense.
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Trump has a bunch of-
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He's about to bring the hammer down.
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Not yet.
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Trump has a bunch of problems.
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No solutions.
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He's up there.
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He doesn't have a grasp of the issues.
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A lot of bluster.
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Doesn't know what he's talking about.
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He's just coming in with Rodney Dangerfield-style one-liners.
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All this is, but he's a showman.
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Right.
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Kind of makes sense.
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In this next clip, they talk a little bit more about immigrant stuff, and Alex is, like,
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surprisingly moderate.
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It's very weird.
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For the months that we've listened to him screaming about how the globalists are trying
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to flood us with, you know, people who may need to get rid of them, or not let them in,
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this-
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Comparing the man-
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Hold on.
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Listen to-
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Comparing the man we know now versus the man that we're talking about-
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No.
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I'm talking about the last few months in 2015.
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Oh, in 2015.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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He's been screaming about fucking immigrants the whole time that we've been doing this
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investigation.
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No, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, I'm not talking about present-day Alex.
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I'm talking about the present-day Alex versus the previous Alex in terms of the wall.
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Right, right, right.
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That boggles my mind.
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It's nuts.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's nuts.
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It's complete evidence that he's sold himself out.
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His principles mean nothing.
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Agreed.
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So, here is the- I've labeled this clip, Joe and Alex seem very moderate on immigration
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reform.
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You know, Donald Trump said in two years he's going to have every illegal out of the country.
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The only way you could do that, it was just like I was fucking Michaela Thelen back there,
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it would be like Nazi Germany.
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They're going to have to go door to door and find out, are you an American?
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I need to see proof.
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And that's what's going to happen.
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That's the only way you're going to get all the illegals out.
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But then at the same time, you still have illegals in the country who want to do good.
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And we're not even saying- all we're saying is don't say free welfare, free babies, come
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here and have the Democrats sign them up to anti-gun groups and give them fake voting
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cards.
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Guns!
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But at the same time, that's reasonable.
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If that was his actual position and if it reflected reality in any way, that's a pretty
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reasonable position.
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It's not terrible.
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It's not what he actually believes, but it's the way he presents things.
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Joe Biggs-
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That's like a McCain Republican idea.
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Like in 2008 when McCain ran, like that's the kind of idea of like, hey, we know a lot
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of people are good, but we just don't want you taking advantage of a system.
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And so we're going to do things- we're going to take steps to stop that.
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And as we already have covered when Jesse Ventura was last on, he was talking about
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like, I'm not sure if these people are getting the programs that you say they are.
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They're not because it's not possible.
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Right.
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But if they are, why would you not blame the system as opposed to the person who is just
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trying to survive?
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Exactly.
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And that is a far more reasonable stance.
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But Joe Biggs is coming in here and Trump is saying he's going to get rid of all the
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illegal immigrants.
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And he's like, that's impossible without turning into a fucking police state.
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Probably not.
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Which would require some sort of tyranny.
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Yeah.
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Joe Biggs is pushing back against that and Alex is fine with the push.
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It's crazy.
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This next clip- Do we just diverge entirely from that?
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No, not yet.
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No, not yet?
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What's happening?
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This next clip is still sensible.
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We're not even critics of Trump here.
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I mean, Joe just wanted to see what he was really like.
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Yeah, but a lot of it is like a Rodney Dangerfield one liner.
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Why do folks like him so much then?
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He's a crowd pleaser.
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He definitely knows how to work a crowd and that's what he was doing.
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He didn't have, the first thing he talked about when he showed up, hey, this is teleprompter
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free.
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We don't have any.
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And he rambled on about how you made $215 million on The Apprentice.
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It took 30 minutes before he even named an issue.
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And when he did, he talked about this vague tax plan that he had and that in a few weeks
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he's going to release this- Sure, he appealed like a carnival barker
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to success.
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But everyone was in there screaming and yelling, women crying, babies screaming, signs flying
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up through the air.
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Well that just shows how desperate people are.
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So basically he's just saying there's no substance to what he's saying.
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He's a showman, he's a carnival barker.
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But at the end there, they're talking about how even with that lack of substance, people
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are going crazy.
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They were in an arena that was full of people.
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Trump is able to draw these crowds, these massive crowds, that are mind blowing.
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Oh, he would be booked at the improv immediately.
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Totally.
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He could do a set.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's like Steve-O.
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He's terrible, but fuck it.
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Yeah, he can get a weekend.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
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Trump's stapling his balls to his leg.
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Now I'd pay for that.
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Yeah, well.
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So I think that this is sort of- I would pay for me stapling Trump's balls
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to his leg.
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Yeah, you need to do it.
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That's weird.
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Oh, I need to do it.
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So this next clip, I think we've heard a lot of a very reasonable perspective that Joe
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Biggs has from going to this Trump rally, but I think we're going to start to see here-
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It's gonna start to deteriorate?
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Well maybe-
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This will be the beginning of the end?
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Maybe.
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And I'll make my point after this clip and the next one.
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Also, do you know how great Todd Glass is?
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It's hilarious.
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I can't- any time you bring up Rodney Dangerfield now, I don't think of Rodney Dangerfield.
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I think of Todd Glass doing Mitch Hedberg jokes in Rodney Dangerfield's voice.
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He's the best.
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It's just amazing.
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Anyway, not the best is this.
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Well, I definitely had an agenda when I went up there as well.
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I wore my Hillary for a prison 2016 t-shirt under my suit.
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By the way, that's a best seller.
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We have photos.
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At least you sent me those photos, Joe.
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Yeah, yeah, they should be all on my Twitter right now as well.
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And I have footage of myself, I'm in the front row, I suck up to the front row, and I'm sitting
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there, I'm kind of getting nervous a little bit, I was like, alright, I gotta do it, I
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gotta do it.
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And I undid my shirt like Superman, and you can see the Hillary for prison shirt, and
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I jumped up and screamed right in a lull, like a little silence part, and I go, Hillary
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for prison!
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And Trump's like, yeah, Hillary, and he's like, pointing at me.
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So if you guys have that clip, we can show it really quick.
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Did not happen.
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Oh, we have a video clip of that?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, I didn't even know we had that video clip.
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I just gave it to Nico.
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Did that for real happen?
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It did.
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It did.
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And it was, uh, Trump is in the middle of saying something that the crowd likes, and
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Joe Biggs rips his shirt open, and he's got Hillary for prison, he yells Hillary for prison,
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and Trump is like, you know who's not surging in the polls?
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Hillary.
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And he's like, thank you.
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And he just points over at Joe Biggs.
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That's the extent of the interaction.
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But hear me out on this.
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So Joe Biggs has been jerking off for three years based on that, right?
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Joe Biggs went there as a marketing possibility.
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The idea of going there and finding out what's going on with Trump was secondary to the idea
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of field testing this Hillary for prison shirt.
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So he goes there as a marketing opportunity because Trump has pulled an arena full of
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people to Texas, which there might be audience crossover with.
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So Joe Biggs goes down there, he does the Superman thing, and people seem to really
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like it.
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Now listen to this next clip.
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Oh no.
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So I opened up my shirt, and the entire crowd erupted.
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And you could see these different reporters or a man gets standing ovation for showing
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his Hillary for prison shirt.
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And it got to a point where I just ended up pulling the blazer off in the top and just
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had the shirt going.
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And see, anybody could have done what you gotta love the fact you always went with great
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ideas.
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You're always making the news.
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You're always making people, you know, linking to what we're doing.
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Great job, Joe.
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Well, I'm telling you, I probably told the least.
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This is probably, you know, nice.
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Maybe a thousand people with Infowars was, I want to see the spike in the site last night
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because people were all on their phone.
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Where do I get that?
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I was like, you gotta go to the Infowars store, man.
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You're gonna love it.
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So sorry about the sound on the clips from this episode.
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It was just glitchy and there was nothing I could do about it.
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But beyond that, I think that this is the moment.
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This is it.
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The Hillary for prison shirt.
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It's because of the potential sales of Hillary for prison shirts that they pull on the...
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They don't say it there at all.
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But I fucking love and hate how my perspective keeps changing based on the information that
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we keep getting.
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But I legitimately think that that moment for them is transformative.
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Holy fuck.
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Because they realize this is a whole market we can tap into.
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Your argument is Alex Jones loves Trump now because of t-shirt sales.
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Well, even go beyond t-shirt sales.
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It's a market, a fertile market that we can tap into.
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Alex Jones couldn't get an arena of people to show up somewhere.
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Of course not.
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Trump shows up to town.
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He's got a whole stadium full of people.
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Joe Biggs comes in, charms them, does some like grifty door to door salesmanship with
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their shirts.
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I imagine behind the scenes they did...
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What do I need you to do to get you into a t-shirt today?
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I imagine, I don't know this, but I imagine behind the scenes they saw a spike in traffic
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to the site.
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Everybody got a bunch of sales from it and they're like, this might be something we need
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to do.
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Wow.
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So I think that...
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I mean, I think we always knew that there would be some sort of crass capitalism to
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it.
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Totally.
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But this is, this is too much, right?
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Well, that's field testing it though.
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Yeah.
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That's taking it to the streets.
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Taking it to the streets.
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All right.
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Quote the doobs.
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All right.
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We're done with that.
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So that's where we leave off on the 15th.
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There's a whole bunch of other dumb bullshit that happens on that show.
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Alex Jones does reveal, he doesn't want to reveal it, but he does say that it costs him
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over $15 million to run Infowars for a year.
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Okay.
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So if you take that number and you consider...
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That seems, that seems honest.
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That seems to make sense, right?
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About $15 million makes sense.
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Well, yeah, it's, it's in the realm of believable, especially considering he runs it out of
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Texas and what have you, but...
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Say he's exaggerating as always.
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I would say $10 million does make sense though.
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That's me in the middle at 12th.
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But be that as it may, it doesn't matter.
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I'm glad you and I can come to a detente on this.
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It doesn't really matter whether the number is 10 or 15, because the money bomb that we're
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about to get into, because we're about to jump into the 16th, which is the beginning
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of the money bomb, 28 hour live broadcast.
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Jesus.
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He doesn't, he's trying to make a million dollars.
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Yeah.
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So that...
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Publicly, he's trying to make a million dollars.
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Right, but...
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He's trying to make a certain amount of money.
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Hopefully it's a million.
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Right.
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But all of the things that he says he wants to do with that million dollars is weird hypothetical
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stuff about shooting the show into Europe, which he said, which he said already, I'm
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not, we are not going to do that immediately.
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We're going to get the satellites, blah, blah, blah.
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Of course not.
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The best of it is stuff he's already doing, paying for reporters, paying for cameras,
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paying for syndication, paying for closed captioning.
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He's doing all of that already.
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So all of that million dollars is just operating expenses that he already has accrued.
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The idea that he needs this million dollars for future stuff is absurd.
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If you watch, I watch them, because these are, I watch this shit on YouTube, his studio
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looks exactly the same as it does now.
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There's no, from 2015 to 2017, there is no discernible change that has been made in terms
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of the studio.
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Yeah, but there's upkeep.
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There are no people who are there that aren't...
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Rappaport.
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No, fuck off.
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Rappaport works for free.
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Rappaport probably does work for free.
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Rappaport's a soldier.
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Rappaport probably does work for free.
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But hear me out, the way I wanted to end that sentence is there isn't a greater number of
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people that work there that aren't balanced out by the less number of people who have
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quit since this change happened.
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So there isn't really like a wide expansion that has happened.
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He's pretended that an expansion in his audience has happened, but if you look at these statistics
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that are available on Quantcast and other tracking sources, that hasn't happened.
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If you look at the numbers that are on his YouTube videos even, they aren't what he says
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they are.
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Unless you add all of them up and assume that all of them are different people.
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But be that as it may, he's trying to raise money for a fictitious thing that didn't happen.
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Yeah, now I understand your point.
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To me though, it seems like it's exactly the same thing as an NPR, like, hey, we do live
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entirely upon public money.
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But because he can't supplicate himself, because he can't be somebody who asks for operating
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costs, he has to say it this way.
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It's possible.
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So to me, it's a-
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Like a hyper-masculine NPR?
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It's a fundraiser.
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It's a hyper-masculine fundraiser.
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That's what it seems like to me so far.
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Right.
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So basically, NPR is not going to go hypothetically out of business if they don't make the money
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by the end of the year.
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True.
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And I feel the panic in Alex.
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I don't think he's going to go out of business, he would have to downsize.
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Reduce his standard of living.
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Yeah, exactly.
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The reason that it strikes me as false, and I understand what you're saying, and I think
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there is a kernel of it.
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Because I know that it's easy for us to give a pass to NPR, because we're bougie-ass liberals,
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and be like, hey, Alex is trying to raise money, what a dumbass.
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And that's what he would think we're doing.
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Which, by the way, you can donate to Knowledge Fight if you go to the Knowledge Fight website
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and click on our link.
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Thank you to all the policy wonks.
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But that's not-
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No, for real, thank you to all the policy wonks.
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That's not at all what I'm getting at.
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The circumstances of it are much more interesting, because he's presenting a fictitious expansion
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of the show.
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So that's one.
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Right.
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He's saying it at the end of the fiscal year, which is two.
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And then the third is he's in this will-they-won't-they situation with Trump that is super fucked
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up.
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That's the thing I think we're talking about.
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It's not about that he needs money.
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It's that because he needs money, there is motive there in order to make the pivot.
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That's what we're talking about.
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And NPR is never going to do a fundraiser and then stealth vote for a candidate because
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of it.
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No.
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Legitimate news sources don't have-they aren't doing subversive marketing.
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The Guardian is now saying, hey, journalism needs to be paid for.
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And rather than put us behind a paywall, we need you to donate to it, or we'd like it
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if you donated to it.
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At no point would the Guardian all of a sudden become the fucking Daily Mail because Trump
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gave them-well, at least we would hope not.
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I would hope not.
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Because Trump gave them ten million dollars or whatever.
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Ultimately I believe that there is probably a future better civilization that involves
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all public financing for presidential campaigns, political campaigns, and journalism.
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Public financing for campaigns and journalism does make a lot of sense.
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Those sorts of things need to be incredibly unbiased.
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And it's impossible to have no bias, like we fucking hate Alex Jones and we hate Trump.
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But at the same time- Whoa, I'm unbiased about Trump.
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I think you can go back and look at my previous statements and note that I have no bias.
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Our bias is incredibly clear, but at the same time when Alex Jones has said stuff that's
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like yeah, rock and roll, we've been totally cool with it.
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We don't hate him in such a way that we will never give him props.
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Also Alex, you really need to look into what Jeff Sessions is doing with civil asset forfeiture.
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Oh my god.
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So far, no comment on that that I've seen.
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Unbelievable.
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He might have talked about it and I missed it.
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If it did, I apologize.
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So if Sessions did or didn't commit a crime- He did, he did.
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Because he's under investigation for it, don't we get to take his stuff by his own rules?
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That's a great point.
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Don't we get to steal his stuff?
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You gotta steal those assets.
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I want to seize his assets.
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So- Can we make a citizen's civil forfeiture?
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That would be great.
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I would just like to take maybe 60 bucks from him.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Help me get to the end of the month.
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So speaking of things that have to do with money, Jordan, it is time for the money bomb!
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Here's the bad news.
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The money bomb?
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Let's edit that out.
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Let's edit out our- Oh, that's staying in.
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That's staying in.
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Don't worry.
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All right.
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That, the money bomb, is incredibly boring.
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Of course it is.
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27 hours or whatever the fuck it was?
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I didn't watch any of it that didn't have Alex Jones on it.
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Smart.
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But there is one piece that I wish I had watched, that I didn't watch, and I won't.
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Because why would I do that?
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Why would I put myself through it?
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Yeah, you've already hurt yourself enough on our behalf.
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Here's something that we didn't realize about the money bomb.
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It is at the end of the fiscal year.
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But do you know what else happened on September 16th?
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No!
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The second Republican presidential debate.
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Ooooh.
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So they timed it to be on the night of the debate.
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Oh shit, that's really smart.
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Yeah.
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That's really smart of them.
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Yeah.
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You gotta give them credit for that.
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That's brilliant.
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So during the debate, what they did is Leanne McAdoo, David Knight, and I think Rob Doo?
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I can't remember the third person.
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But they had a panel that Mystery Science Theatered the debate.
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So what they did is they had their silhouettes on the desk.
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No shit.
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All on the backs of their heads.
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Wow.
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Fucking wow.
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And I saw a couple clips of it and it's lunacy.
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They didn't even hire Mike Nelson for like a day?
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Nothin'.
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No, no professionals on this.
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No fake robot either.
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Like you could, Alex, it would be so easy to just create a robot to put in there.
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You could get even probably the real gypsy.
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Who cares?
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Oh, yeah.
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He hates gypsies though.
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I should be good about that.
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Alright.
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I don't like even using the word gypsy.
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On October 10th he did talk about how the gypsies have free reign to steal RVs in Europe.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Yep.
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That's a fucking racist thing from the 1700s.
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What are you doing talking about gypsies?
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It's wild.
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So the schedule of the 27 hour, 28 hour broadcast was really disappointing.
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They had that, you know, Mystery Science Theater, blah blah.
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They had Alex Jones for his show on the beginning of it on the 16th.
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The Alex Jones show on the 17th.
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Beyond that it was just like, they're reporters, tag teamed, like Kit Daniels did a show.
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Never heard Kit Daniels name.
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He's a writer.
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He's a writer guy.
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He's not really on air all that much.
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Some of these...
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That always goes well when you put a writer guy on air.
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Some of these other guys, like just people, Rob Doo interviewed Leo Zagami, the Illuminati
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insider who hates the Pope.
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They did that at midnight.
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Not at midnight.
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That was like 2am.
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It was just nonsense.
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They had fucking Paul Joseph Watson doing a bunch of stuff on the off hours because
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he's on Greenwich Mean Time.
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So it's, again, you're doing an overnight thing where no one has to stay up overnight
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except for Rob Doo.
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But be that as it may.
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Look, Rob Doo is kind of our tortured slave of Infowars here.
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I start to like him more and more as time goes on and I'm not comfortable with that.
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He's kind of, to me...
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He's an everyman.
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He's kind of a Charlie Brown, like there's the football right there and Rob Doo is about
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to kick it and it is always pulled out from underneath him.
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I think behind the scenes he's probably way worse than he appears because he just seems
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so boring.
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I bet behind the scenes he's a dick.
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Probably.
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He's been able to stay in this business for like years.
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That's a really good point.
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Unless he's Renfield.
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Have you considered that he is actually mind controlled by Alex Jones?
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No, because I don't consider those sorts of things because they're lunatic.
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I think there's a decent chance there's a good person behind Rob Doo and that sucks
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because he's so fucking boring.
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But be that as it may, what we're going to be talking about is specifically and only
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the Alex Jones portions of the Money Bomb.
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So we're going to start with the 16th, Alex Jones wants to talk to you about his audience
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size.
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Oh boy.
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I bet it's pretty big.
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They brought in the metrics to my house last night, Buckley Hammond and Anthony Gucciardi
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that I have working with outside IT consulting firms and they said you're giving people two
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year old numbers, here they are.
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They pulled them up in front of me on all the big third party sites and our own internal
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server systems.
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Info Wars now reaches 41 million individual different people a month.
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It has a reach of 1.4 billion total views on the website.
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If you count all of our social media, it is several billion more individual users.
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We did a metric run with a major company and looked at our YouTube views just on the top
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500 sites carrying our videos and it's over 150 million views a month and so they're now
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collating all of that data we'll be releasing soon, but it appears we're reaching upwards
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of three and a half billion individual people per month.
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There is six billion people that have some access to the internet, some access three
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and a half.
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How many people even live on the planet in your world?
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It's insane.
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What?
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What?
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In full disclosure.
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So six out of the seven billion people on this fucking planet have internet access.
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Which isn't true at all.
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That's not even close to true.
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No.
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Three point two, three point, between three point two and three point six billion have
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internet.
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Oh, okay.
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Well then all of them, all of them are Alex Jones listeners.
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Here's something that's very interesting, 700 billion of those people who have internet
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access.
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700 million of those people.
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I'm sorry.
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700 million of those people live in China.
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None of them have access to Infowars.
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Oh, that's right.
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They don't even have access to it.
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No way.
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It's censored.
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That's almost.
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Holy shit.
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That's almost a billion of the people who have access to the internet, who have a censored
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internet.
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Alex Jones spends all of his time talking about the chai comms and shit.
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There's no way they can do the filter.
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Yeah, there's no way they can watch, no shit.
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Of course not.
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So that's 700 million of them.
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Now it's literally impossible.
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Well that covers, so he said there's six billion listening to him, right?
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So that 700 million covers the extra billion.
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No, no, because he's talking about the people who have access to the internet.
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Oh, that's right.
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It's only three and a half million who actually listen, or three and a half billion who actually
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listen to him.
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No, no, no.
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He's saying that they reach.
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They reach.
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What does that even fucking mean?
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It's bullshit internet social media nonsense.
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It's the same reason he says that Paul Joseph Watson's videos have millions of views.
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It's because they post them on Facebook, and people scroll past it, it auto plays, and
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that counts as a play.
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It's the same-
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Is that real?
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Yeah.
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That actually counts as a play?
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Yeah.
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You look at all these nonsense videos that no one's watching, like ad videos, and it
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says like two million-
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I haven't been on Facebook for a good year.
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I remember this from back when I was trolling around on that dumb site.
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Looking up old girlfriends.
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That's what most people do, but also we really, really have to point out he's double, triple,
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and quadruple counting shit.
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There's absolutely no way, because he's talking about the top 100 sites that post our videos.
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Which we've already established is he's at like what?
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He's not even in the top 200?
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No, no, no.
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He's talking about the places that post his-
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, okay.
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Do you understand how YouTube's analytics work?
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Yes.
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Well, I mean no, but as you've explained them to me in regards to Alex Jonesy, yes.
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If you embed a video on your blog, let's say, from YouTube, and someone plays it from the
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blog, it counts as a hit on YouTube.
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But if there is this blog post that is about your video, you can count that as another
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hit.
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So it's two hits for every single person who does either.
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Right.
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So you've already doubled your hits even though it's only one view.
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Yeah, and Alex Jones is doing that all over the fucking place.
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So if there's like five websites, all of them you read because you're an avid info warrior.
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Right, and there's probably like-
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You get 10 views.
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WorldNetDaily reposts their stuff.
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Breitbart has in the past reposted their links and their videos.
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Well, just with the emails Trump has sent out to all of his donors with Info Wars links
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on it.
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And he's actually, like in that link, there was a video embedded.
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Yeah, of course.
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So that counts.
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That counts double.
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There's massive manipulation going on there in terms of the audience size, and that is
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exactly how you want to start the Money Bomb.
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Of course.
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That's how you want to start it.
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We're reaching 3.5 billion people a month.
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That's everyone in the world, because consider it.
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Think about how many children there are.
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You know what I'm saying?
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We talk about there being seven billion people, seven and a half billion people in the world.
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How many of those people are under 12?
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Most of them are dying and most of them are just born.
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Yeah.
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So 3.5 billion is every adult basically.
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Yeah, that is basic.
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That's more than every adult.
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Basically.
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Wow.
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And then you consider the amount of people who have no internet access, you consider
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the Chinese, and they're not the only country that restricts the internet.
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No, of course not.
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So you have other countries that have blocked internet, and you consider that-
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Saudi Arabia.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You consider those populations, his numbers make no fucking sense.
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His best way of trying to-
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At best, he's reaching 10 guys.
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Yeah.
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And one of them's me.
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Yeah.
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So you're down 10%.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And he tries to sort of like couch it and he's like, now maybe people are coming to
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our site from different devices, so maybe we're reaching a billion a month.
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So would you-
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And even that's crazy.
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So wait, so if you check your Facebook on your computer, and then you check your Facebook
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on your phone, that counts as a different view.
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Well, I think if you track IP addresses, yeah, I think that is the case.
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Especially if you're using mobile, like if you're on the bus and you check your Facebook,
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it would be different than you checking it on your laptop at home.
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So that's multiple views on top of that.
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Yeah.
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And it makes it incredibly difficult to tell exactly what your metrics are, unless you
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have-
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Not sort of-
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He's not doing legit work in terms of his statistics.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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It's so crazy to me, but I love it.
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Of course not.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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That's the kind of stuff I love.
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Because after that-
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Because it's math.
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There's no arguing with math.
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But all of this other stuff, we can deal with reality versus non-reality.
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And there is a question there, and there are kernels of truth.
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In this regard, it is pure analytics, you're lying.
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And I cut the clip-
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And you know you're lying.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I cut the clip, and where he goes from there is to talk about how like, I'm humbled
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that I'm talking to this many people.
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It's like, do you know you're lying?
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What's going on here?
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It's just this present-
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He knows.
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It's just this presentation of humility that's really fascinating.
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But-
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He has to know.
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There's no possible way he doesn't know.
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Alex, beyond his bullshit about his audience size, he has some other things he wants to
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talk about on the Money Bomb.
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In this next one, Jordan, I've said a lot of things are not true that Alex Jones says
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in the past.
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This one-
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I don't know how many, but it's astronomical.
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It's maybe three and a half billion things that you have said are not true that Alex
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has said.
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That is bigly not true.
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Ooh, I don't like that one.
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Because I never get scared when I'm awake during the day.
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I always start crying when I think about this, because I don't want to leave my kids alone
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now more than ever.
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My children need me now more than ever.
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I'm pretty much the only people there for them, and I know in my heart that as all this
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unfolds, this show's going to get bigger and more popular to a dangerous level, because
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we know what's going on.
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You got freaked out by Muslim girls in a Starbucks.
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You're always scared.
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I told my globalist that I'll be just fine until all this comes true, and then that's
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when I better stop.
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I want to go back there, because-
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Yeah, go back and play that.
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I got angry, and it screwed everything up.
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I apologize.
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That's all right.
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And I've been told by top globalist that I'll be just fine until all this comes true, and
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then that's when I better stop.
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And the criticism is, what do you want money for if you're ready to stop?
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Oh, I'm not going to stop during the collapse.
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I'm going to go to the next level and put everything on the table and be all in.
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That's what you do when the enemy comes in like a flood.
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This is the end of the West, the end of humanity as we know it.
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This is a total satanic takeover.
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Don't you understand it's real?
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No, it's not.
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But you got told by a top globalist.
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What top globalists are talking?
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George Soros?
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Is he hanging out with Soros?
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Why is he...
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What?
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Okay.
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I believe that the globalists are demonic beings from a different dimension.
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Which I would say, if that is true, if you see one, kill it.
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Yeah, right?
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Right?
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Why would you have a patient conversation?
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Why would you go to a cocktail party with one?
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Hey, listen.
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I know you're a demonic monster hell-bent on destroying humanity, but come on, you got
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any juicy inside tips for me?
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I'm doing a radio show.
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Come on, man.
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Am I safe?
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Yeah.
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Am I?
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That's right, because that's what he's talking about.
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Yeah.
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He's talking to these top globalists who are like, keep on your shit.
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Well, no, this goes back to what we...
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Until we win, in which case you better get out.
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This goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning of this episode, this idea
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of the internet version of the elites and the Illuminati.
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They need to have everyone know what they're doing.
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Right.
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It's that lesser magic idea.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You need to know what we're doing to you, and then if you don't do anything, you consent
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to it.
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They're using Alex as a conduit to tell people what they're doing to them.
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And if they don't fight back, then whatever.
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Un-fucking-believable.
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But what's magical about that entire line of argument is, hey, the only way to really
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fight back is give Alex Jones money.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's the only one who's saying this crazy bullshit.
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I guess if I don't really support him, then I consented to being destroyed, and then demons
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are gonna take over.
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That is...
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It's brilliant.
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That is brilliant.
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It's brilliant.
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That is brilliant.
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It's so fucking stupid.
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I don't think you can...
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I don't think most of his listeners would be able to articulate exactly what line of...
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Or that train of logic that you just put forward.
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No, because they have too much fluoride in the water.
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But it makes perfect sense.
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Of course.
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If you're an insane person.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or if you're just an afraid person, because that's what this...
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It's not that these people are all insane, it's that they're terrified and they don't
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know what's going on.
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I've spent a lot of periods of my life in various stages of paranoia and anxiety.
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I have mental illness, I've done a lot of drugs in the past, and so I know weird head
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spaces.
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Yeah.
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And I can sort of...
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I can suss out where things are coming from.
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Right.
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And I don't mean to put too fine a point on this, but I've dwelt in the weirdest parts
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of the internet.
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These conspiracy forums and these weird Illuminati forums, these message boards.
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I've read all this stuff that people talk about, and none of it's based on anything,
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and so much of it is mirrored in what Alex is talking about.
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This idea of the lesser magic, the idea that we've got to tell you, then you're in.
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It's so dumb.
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It's so based on nothing, and it's so manipulative.
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And that's what he's doing.
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It's great.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Top globalists say he's safe.
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Why?
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What?
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Who is...
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How is he even getting a meeting with top globalists?
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He runs into them all the time.
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Remember, he talked to that one on the plane.
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Oh, that's right.
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He runs into them all the time.
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That's right.
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And they keep calling him, trying to get him to join up.
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They are everywhere.
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They need to join up.
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Absolutely.
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No, no, no.
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I got you.
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They're always courting Alex Jones.
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You're right.
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So Alex...
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He's a part of the mythology that, just like his fucking Prometheus bullshit, like, we
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need to be more like Prometheus, who God loved.
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And you're like, wait, no, hold on one second.
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You don't understand.
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No, no, no.
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You misinterpreted that.
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Oh, I did?
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Yeah.
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You misinterpreted that.
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How so?
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Because what he's saying is the God that I would be into, the elite version that I would
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be into, is that one who brings us Promethean fire.
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Now, Prometheus did bring us the fire, and then got his liver pecked out, and then brought
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back everything.
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He got wrecked for it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But that's the human story.
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But that's the sacrifice that he makes for humanity.
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Yeah.
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So Alex's point is actually very valid in that case, is that the God that I would worship
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is the one that builds us up, because Prometheus did give us fire, and gave us that.
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I don't think there is one.
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No.
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Also, there's not a God.
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Shh, quiet.
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We have a lot of Christian knowledge fighters.
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Yeah, I bet we do.
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I fucking bet we do.
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If you do, God bless you.
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I don't care.
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I don't think there's anything intrinsically negative about religion.
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I think it can bring a lot to your life.
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No comment.
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So this next clip, Alex Jones has been on his bullshit for about, bleh, ever.
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About these liberals want to kill cops.
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Yes.
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Oh, God.
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I don't want to get into the cop narrative.
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No, this one's fun.
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Okay.
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He has an interview with this guy named James Wesley Rawls, who runs a site...
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That's a great name.
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It's not bad.
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That's a great name.
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Good for a serial killer, got three names.
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Absolutely.
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Oh, yeah.
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He runs...
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I would totally be serial killed by that guy.
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He runs a website called survivalblog.com, where he tells you how to survive serial killers.
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Like the globalists.
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He tells you how to survive his own serial killings.
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I think it's a lot of prepping stuff.
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If you don't want to be murdered by me, here's a step-by-step list of instructions.
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Piss me off.
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Piss me off.
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That's it.
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That's the whole blog.
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He is a guy who used to come on on Skype.
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I'm basing this on what Alex has told us.
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Okay.
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He used to come on on Skype.
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Now you don't even want your picture out there because you're so freaked out.
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Too much.
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Weirdo.
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Gotcha.
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So most of the show is an interview with this guy.
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They get into talking about cop killing rhetoric and what have you, and here's that clip.
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It's a paradox.
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They're awake, but they still follow orders.
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The citizens are awake.
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We still put up with it.
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Meanwhile, leftists are out killing police, so they're so fired up once we demonstrate
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they'll attack us.
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I wish there was some sophistication out there that everyone not be played like fiddles.
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Right.
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Well, right now we have a lot of people being played like puppets, indeed, where radicals
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are being pushed toward killing police officers, for example, where, you know, there wasn't
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even talk of that for about a twenty-five period in this country.
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You have to go all the way back to late 1960s or early 70s with the Black Panther movement
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to see, you know, at the time they referred to it as the kill the killers movement.
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Fucking anybody.
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That kind of went quiet for a long, long time in this nation.
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And seeing that reemerge is very troubling.
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That's very troubling.
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What's more troubling?
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Fucking listen to anybody who's not fucking white!
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N.W.A. had fuck the police in 1988.
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What does this do?
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Body count had cop killer in 1992.
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How many times does this happen?
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This happens to so many white people.
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9-1-1 is a joke.
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Came out in 1990.
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Granted, that wasn't cop killing, but that was...
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So many white people always come with, uh, I've never heard this shit before.
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When did they start talking about this?
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Like fucking everybody, always!
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I think that's really, like, when we talk about feminism and racism and these sorts
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of things and how blind Alex is to so many things and how reactionary he is, a lot of
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it really does boil down in some ways to, like, you're not listening.
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You're not listening.
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And maybe the larger avenue there is just that nobody was, nobody in your world was
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talking about it.
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Yeah, and no one...
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Because that was, that was the thing, like, if you go back to the 80s with N.W.A., you
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see all those local news spots going, like, is rap out of control?
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Like all of those different things, and never are black people being murdered by the cops!
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Now let's take, like, reality out of it and sensible discourse out of it.
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Let's just remove that for a second.
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Which is the entire focus of this podcast.
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Think about how many people were fucking talking about taking out the police after the Rodney
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King stuff.
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Oh my god.
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And that was not in the 60s.
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No.
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No, no, no, no.
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So, I mean, like, even that is just a very clear example of fucking James Wesley Rawls
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is an idiot.
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Yeah.
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He is a fucking ahistorical idiot.
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Right.
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But, hey, you know what, he's got a blog.
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That's pretty cool.
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God damn it.
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So James Wesley Rawls is a nutty kind of dude.
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One of his basic arguments that he's making within this interview is that the globalists
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created radical Islam in order to fight against them.
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Logical.
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Like, they're fighting against the West, because they needed a better enemy.
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Controlled opposition.
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Yeah.
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They needed, like, a-
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We had the Nazis, now we gotta get Islam.
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They need a scary enemy that they can fight against, and in that way curtail our freedoms
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and then create a one-world religion that is partially Islamic, and a one-world government.
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Sure.
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It's nonsense.
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But again, it doubles back into this shit that Alex talks about, where you're radicalizing
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the enemy that you are imagining in order to justify your radical nature.
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Yeah.
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There's a ton of that in his discourse.
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And this is the fucking money bomb.
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Most of the show.
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That's right.
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This is the money bomb we're into.
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Most of the show-
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It's fear.
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It's fear.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Fear and-
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The money bomb is fear.
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Fear and we are much more numerous than you think.
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You are not alone.
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It's all of us.
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There's 3.5 billion of us.
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Don't feel bad.
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Don't eat to us, because you're just one of- it's like when a busker has a dollar bill
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already in his hat whenever he pulls it out.
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You're priming the pot.
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Exactly.
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You're making sure that people know it's okay.
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Yeah, there's 3.5 billion people behind you, but just fucking support us because we're
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the only ones fighting these fake globalists.
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Before Rawls gets out-
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Can you imagine how much money he would have if he actually reached three and a half billion
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people?
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Well, if everyone gave him a quarter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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We're considering the insane markup he has on these products, even when they're on sale,
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which I didn't even mean to bring up, but let's fucking talk about it.
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Okay.
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Let's get into it.
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During the money bomb, unprecedented sales-
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Is it like an Easter sale?
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Yeah, he's constantly-
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30% off?
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He's constantly talking about like, all right, got the brain force, that's on sale until
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the show is over, got free shipping on everything.
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Infomercial style.
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He's basically talking about things being at cost, just like, got to move it, that sort
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of thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's like, hey, this is a loss leader, everyone's going to come in and make money on it, which
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is bullshit.
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I mean, well-
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He's pretending.
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If you are looking at the end of the fiscal year though, just because you're-
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You got to get that product out of there.
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If you're selling it, it's revenue.
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Because otherwise, yeah.
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Otherwise-
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It doesn't matter if you're making a profit on it or not, it's still money you have.
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And it's not like that stuff you bought isn't going to factor into the end of the fiscal
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year.
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Of course, of course.
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You're balancing the books in some ways, even if you sell it for no profit.
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Yeah.
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Which might-
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I don't know when we got into business.
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I don't know when this happened.
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I'm an accountant.
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Oh, that's right.
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You are an accountant.
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But it might still be like-
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I'm just an interested party.
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It might be indicative of the fact that he may be overbought and is in a hole, or just
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is in a hole generally.
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I don't know.
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Anyway.
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But Rawls, before he gets out of the episode, has to say one of the scariest things I've
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heard a guest say on Alex Jones' show.
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Oh boy.
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Here we go.
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There's going to be huge numbers of Christian refugees in the coming decades.
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And I believe that there is actually a need for a new homeland nation for persecuted Christian
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and messianic Jewish refugees who are going to be pushed out of countries in huge numbers
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in the years to come.
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And that's why I decided to write my Counter-Caliphate Chronicles series.
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That first novel called Land of Promise describes the establishment of a Christian homeland
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nation.
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And I also made it fictionally a Christian libertarian nation to illustrate a lot of
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other points.
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But I do think that that is needed.
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And we need to pray that God would provide a safe haven for persecuted Christians all
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over the world.
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I would argue that most of the time, when religiously specific countries have been created,
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it hasn't gone great.
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The thing I hear there, though, is that he's saying, so many Christian refugees, we need
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a homeland nation, and we're creating a counter-caliphate.
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Which is like, wait.
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Counter-Caliphate is the name of his novel series that he's written.
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But the point being, we hate this thing that is persecuting us, so let's make exactly that
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thing.
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But our version.
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But our version.
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Yeah.
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That's insane to me.
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That mentality pervades Alex Jones's guests.
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Well, that's a good point.
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I don't understand why you're shocked by that.
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I know, but it just, well, and frankly, this is what we've been talking about for months
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now.
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Yeah, basically forever.
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And it never fails to surprise me that people don't stop for one fucking second and think,
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oh, well, this thing is bad, so let's not do this thing.
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Well, because they have this...
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But then again, then again, you know what?
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At the same point, every Democrat said, you know, when they go low, we go high.
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Not every Democrat.
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Well, no, not every Democrat.
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But Marty DeRosa, fucking policy wonk and friend of the show, he and I were having this
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conversation where it's like, we all said when they go low, we go high, and now we're
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kind of at the position where it's like, oh, when they go low, you fucking go goddamn lower.
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Fucking get into there.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know, man.
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When they go low, chop block.
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Right?
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I don't know.
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Don't punch somebody when they've taken out your knees, like, I don't know.
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It's not in any way justifying the idea of like, we need our own Christian...
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No, pogroms.
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Pogroms.
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Okay.
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So the rest of Alex Jones' September 16th show for the money bomb.
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Before we go any further, I do think he's right.
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There will be a lot of Christian refugees in the same way that there will be a lot of
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refugees total.
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Period.
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Immediately following, like, considering the effects of climate change, what does happen
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in our country in specific, right?
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So right now, we have a shit ton of Muslim refugees from all of these places.
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And but not entirely.
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But not entirely.
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It's not all Muslims.
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But my point is that so many people are up in arms about this.
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When we just start talking about refugees with no religion in front of it, think about
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how many Christian refugees and how many all of these things...
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Everyone's going to scapegoat depending on the adjective that is part of the refugee
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part thing.
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Exactly.
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How many refugees...
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How many Christian refugees?
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What's the number before people start saying, well, we don't want any more refugees total?
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It's the fun part of complaining about refugees stuff because like, hey, they're gonna be
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Christians while you deny climate change.
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Exactly.
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It's a fun game to play.
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Like, this is going to happen.
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It's a fun, fun game.
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What's the number, though?
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Like how many...
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For fuck's sakes, imagine we're talking about Rome.
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All of the Catholics, for whatever reason, need to move.
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How many people in the United States before it starts going like, well, we can't allow
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any refugees in?
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Regardless of religion, we just can't allow refugees in.
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But let's even imagine a scenario wherein, and this may not be the case, I'm not saying
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it necessarily is, but let's imagine a scenario where it just so happens that Muslim dominated
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countries happen to be the places that are safer from climate change.
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Let's imagine that.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So let's imagine like Saudi Arabia is a place that is unaffected by climate change.
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And now these Catholics that are displaced from...
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Because it's a fucking desert, so...
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And now it's wonderful.
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Yeah, now it's a fucking utopia.
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So let's imagine that these Catholics from the south of Italy, where it's flooded to
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shit, now have to find a place...
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Venice is fucking gone.
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Done.
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Now they have to go somewhere, and they go into Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia, I mean,
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let's not unpack all of their negative cultural problems.
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Let's just talk about people coming in.
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Let's say that they have a way of life, and these Catholics come in and want to change
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everything.
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Yeah.
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Ugh.
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Ugh.
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How is it that people can't do that next step thought?
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I don't know.
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Like think about that reciprocity.
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I think people are too caught up in their identity.
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Yeah, that's probably true.
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That's why whenever we talk about Alex Jones, I don't like to call him a white supremacist.
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I like to say that he's caught up in white identity.
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White Christian male identity.
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Because that I think is more to the point than saying he's a white supremacist.
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It's way too easy to say that he thinks he's better than everybody, because of course he
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does.
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But what really motivates him is his identification with what makes him white, what makes him
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male, what makes him Christian.
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And I think that it's too threatening to a lot of people to imagine a world wherein that
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identity is problematic to other people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because it becomes threatening.
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That's the whole fight, right?
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Like that's their whole argument is that because the demographics are changing, all of a sudden
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they have the thought of, wait, maybe they start thinking what we think about them about
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us.
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I mean, I read a really interesting assessment of someone was pointing out that a lot of
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homophobia is based on a fear by really aggressive, angry dudes that men will treat them like
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they treat women.
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And I think that there is a bit of that in...
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That's a really good thought.
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I think there's a lot of that in tons of this stuff.
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Marx is afraid that minorities will treat him how he thinks about them.
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It's reciprocity.
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Yeah.
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That's what they're really afraid of, all of their crimes coming back against them.
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Right.
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They're afraid of karma.
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In many ways.
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Yeah.
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So the rest of the...
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That's just the thing that I have always considered.
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And it is one of those things in the later stages of Obama's presidency that I was concerned
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about is because of that executive overreach, because of how much power we gave Obama, Trump
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now has that power.
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Like they just never...
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We just never considered that it could be used against us.
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That's not true.
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In the...
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I mean, I agree with the point, but when that was happening, when that executive power was
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given to Obama, there were people such as myself and other folks, yeah, you as well,
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who were like, this is not good.
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There should not be like, and it goes back to Bush, the idea of being able to unilaterally
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launch wars.
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That sort of thing is not in the power of the executive.
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The executive branch became way too strong.
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And even with Obama in power, I know tons of Democrats and liberal-minded people who
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are super against that.
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And it wasn't enough.
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It wasn't enough to sway the Congress, sway the actual people who made decisions.
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Imagine...
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Yeah, no, I'm out.
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It just becomes...
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I'm out.
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That's insane.
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It's insane.
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It's political opportunism by the...
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I mean, if we keep this conversation going more than 10 minutes, we're going to say,
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let's overthrow everything.
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Because I think...
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This whole thing has been me just pushing you closer to my side.
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Little do you know, I'm already there, but...
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Don't reveal that.
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Don't reveal that.
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You're our cover.
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You're our cover.
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You're our cover.
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So, September 16th...
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I'm the revolution.
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You're the one who's keeping us legitimate.
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Part one of the Money Bomb.
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It ends with a long interview with Dr. Group.
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Dr. Group runs the fourth hour of the show before they hand it off to whoever dumbass...
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Maybe Joe Biggs, I'm not entirely sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Who cares?
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Yeah.
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They keep the marathon going.
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He's just trying to sell a lot of products.
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He does a bunch of bullshit.
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But before he leaves, before Alex leaves, he says that his predictions have never been
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wrong, he's basically a psychic, and that his sixth sense is on fire like never before.
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Race memory.
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That's a quote.
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My sixth sense is on fire like it's never been before.
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First of all, I don't think you have a sixth sense.
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Don't care.
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I think that you are freaked out, certainly.
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Then he had this quote that I thought was really fucking awesome, and it was, if you're
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nouveau riche and you're not giving us money, or...
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And then there's a long list of things basically that are just about giving him press, like
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buying us a billboard, that sort of thing.
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You're crazy.
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If you're nouveau riche, is that the way he phrases it, like alright.
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Because he wants to delineate between people who have money...
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It's not old money.
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It's not old money.
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It's the new, it's the dot-com billionaires who he's really courting.
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So now, here's where things get really fun.
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Where is that?
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Larry Jones did his show on September 16th, then he was due to come back from 10-11pm
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to do an interview with Larry Nichols.
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They were going to do an hour-long interview, and then they were going to premiere a documentary.
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He sent people down to tape Larry Nichols at his house, whose address has been given
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out on our show.
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And his phone number, if you'd like to call him, please.
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I think we blocked that out.
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He's emailknowledgefight.com, and I will fucking give you his phone number, I don't give a
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shit.
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He gave it out on air!
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He did.
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And it's still on the internet.
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On Alex Jones' channel.
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But be that as it may, they sent them out there, they made a documentary, and Alex was
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going to do an hour-long interview with Larry to, like, precede it.
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Larry clearly didn't answer the phone.
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Because the first half...
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On purpose?
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I think he was asleep.
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The first half hour of the show is Alex Jones vamping like hell.
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He's just talking about, like, my early days on radio were great.
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It's just, like, it's so much filler for, like, the first 25 minutes of the hour.
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There are two kinds of people.
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People on the radio, and then people not on the radio.
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What he's trying to do is he's trying to say things without getting into anything that
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he can't bail from if Larry gets on the phone at any point.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then that, like, that maintenance, like, let's, uh...
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Yeah.
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He's stretching.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And so about 25 minutes or so, 30 minutes in, Larry Nichols finally gets on the phone,
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and they just talk about how much Hillary sucks, of course, because that's his bread
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and butter.
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And Larry Nichols drops this chestnut.
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What Hillary needs to do, and what she's going to do, is she's going to make herself the
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underdog.
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That's why she released all this information about the servers.
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Wait.
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Hillary released her own, the information about the servers herself?
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Yes, yes, because she needs to make herself the underdog, which is out of Larry Nichols'
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playbook from way back in the Arkansas days.
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They had to make Bill Clinton an underdog in order to make, because everyone loves an
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underdog.
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But Bill Clinton was the underdog.
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Right.
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That's nonsense.
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Okay.
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It's all, and if you actually look at Larry Nichols' actual history with the Clintons,
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it doesn't...
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No, that doesn't scan at all.
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He wasn't involved with any of the stuff he says he was involved with.
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No.
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So that's his big sort of selling point, is that she did all this shit to herself, because
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the Clintons and the Bushes are dynastic families.
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They're always going to be at the top, so they have to make themselves the underdogs
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in order for you to kind of care about them.
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So he goes on to say, these next two things on the show that are dumb...
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They only have 20 minutes or so to do their interview before they scream at you.
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Yeah, because they've already bailed on so many hours.
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And they spend 10 minutes of it with Alex Jones vamping more, because Larry Nichols
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has to take his dog out to shit.
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Oh!
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It's crazy.
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That's cute.
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It's humanizing in some ways, but it's terrible radio.
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It's terrible.
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And Hitler's dog loved him.
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Yeah.
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But here is something that Larry Nichols predicts about Hillary that did not come true.
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You said that first months ago.
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Now it's in the news that Obama's after Hillary, and she's even attacking Obama now.
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Yeah, here's what you will watch.
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Here's what's coming.
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They're following our playbook this time exactly, Alex.
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She's going to start the tearing to her.
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Now when Hillary goes out, she's going to tear up.
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So that's misogynistic as fuck.
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Now when Hillary goes out, she's going to tear up.
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She's going to start crying.
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She's going to start crying, because everybody respects a woman who cries.
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Sure.
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Everybody's going to be like, oh, this woman cries?
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That makes me want her to be president.
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There's no inherent misogyny behind a woman crying that, oh, fuck off.
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Fuck you, Larry Nichols.
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In the same way that Alex always complains that like, hey, you call me racist, and that's
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your way of taking my power.
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She believes that a woman starts crying, and now I've got to be chivalrous.
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It's that same thing.
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It's a load of bullshit.
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Also, Hillary Clinton, say what you want about her, did not cry.
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She came out and defended herself quite admirably.
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No.
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So, whatever Larry Nichols' idea.
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Say whatever you want about Hillary's campaign.
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Hillary fucking brought it.
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You've got to give her that.
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And she stood up to these attacks and didn't, I mean, she apologized for things that you
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thought was like maybe an error in judgment, those sorts of things.
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Yeah, the super predator shit.
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Bad.
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Yeah.
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But didn't back down to this right wing conspiracy that mostly tracks back to Larry Nichols.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like, Larry Nichols legitimately is such a problem in the world.
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He's so terrible.
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Wow.
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And as much as he is a problem in terms of all the stuff he's done with the Clintons,
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he's a huge problem in general.
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Like I know he, we've talked about this, he was saying that Obama wants to become the
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last president, because then he becomes king.
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Like the Patton Oswalt bit about Bush, where he wants to become the last president.
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Right, but he's not doing comedy.
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Yeah, no, he's not very funny about this at all.
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He will become the king, and then once he's the king, yes, he becomes the king of the
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Muslims.
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Yes.
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Now...
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Which will never stop.
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That's funny.
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That will never not make me laugh.
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That's funny.
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The king of the Muslims!
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That's funny.
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Yeah.
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But, listen to this next clip of Larry Nichols, and realize how much he fucking hates Muslims,
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and realize...
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This is Nichols hating...
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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This is no longer funny.
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Alright.
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I just can't believe it.
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I just can't believe what, I mean, what type of psycho scum... you've been around these
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people, but I mean, they weren't even that bad back then.
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Have they gone crazy?
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In my day, bad guys would look good today.
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Bad guys back then, honestly, Alex, would be heroes today, if you can believe that.
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Remember this term, Akbar El-Amin, Akbar El-Amin.
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And what they're doing with this flood of immigrants that are going all over Europe,
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it's the spread.
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They're moving in.
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They're setting up Caliphates, buddy.
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Akbar El-Amin is when they spread, when they spread and they get into more...
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You know, the first one comes in, well, gosh, he's a great little Muslim.
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You know what?
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They're just really nice people.
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We could probably let another one in.
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Well, then, in comes another one.
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Well, you know, they're just really nice people.
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But read the Quran, folks.
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One day, every Muslim, one day, is gonna come to what they call the river of the bad.
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You get more lung cancer, you fucking pile of garbage?
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Three times in the Quran, it says, peace, love, dope.
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You got it?
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Three times.
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Seventy some odd times, it says, try to convert to infidel.
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Three times.
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Oh my fucking God, read the Bible, you pile of...
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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Look what they did in Africa, Alex.
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Convert to Islam or die.
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Look at what Christians did to Africa.
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We can't grow Christianity by saying either you believe in Jesus Christ or we're gonna
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cut you at all.
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Crusades.
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They're growing.
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Fucking, wow.
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We in America have become cowards.
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What are we gonna do now?
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Why are you being racist against people saying I'm gonna kill you if you don't convert to
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my religion?
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That's liberal and crazy.
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That's actually a really good question.
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I can't help it.
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I know, but I just can't help it.
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Let me ask you this, Alex.
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I'm gonna pose this question for you.
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Dearborn, Michigan, you know, has got a huge population of Muslims.
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They even do that little wacky thing, you know, every time of the day where they do
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the prayer out on the loudspeaker.
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The wacky...
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Tell me exactly what would happen, Alex, if tomorrow morning we wake up in Dearborn, Michigan,
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the Muslim community there declares itself a caliphate.
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Now, what would happen?
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They would say it's religious freedom to have that area of Michigan be under Islamic rule
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and the government would submit to it and the left is promoting it.
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There's no way, folks.
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Do you really believe we would take our government in, Alex, and drive them out of there?
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Yeah, probably.
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I assume if it was like an insurrection of some sort.
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I imagine.
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We put down the whiskey rebellion with force.
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It's not like we're new to the National Guard coming in to murder people.
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Yeah.
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But if we don't murder them out of the equation, the government did what it had to do with
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the Bundy Ranch and that wildlife preserve.
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They did it admirably without killing anybody, except for that one guy.
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They killed that one guy, but he had it coming.
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When you say admirably, you suggest that it's admirable that they didn't all die.
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So much...
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Now, I respect you for that opinion.
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Hypothetical means a lot of restraint because...
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The restraint I wish they afforded all other people that are white.
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Right.
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I 100% agree with that.
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But his presentation of it like, what if they just declared a caliphate?
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Like, well, that's a fun hypothetical, first of all, not happening.
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Second of all, if it did, of course that wouldn't fly.
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What if our country just broke into another and just declared a Christian nation?
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What kind of monsters would we be?
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Or what if, let's say, Dearborn, Michigan had a huge Christian population and they decided
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we are going to be now a completely theocratic Christian city.
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Oh, do you mean just Dearborn?
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A lot of cities.
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I don't know.
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Oh, man.
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How can...
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I keep saying how can.
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I keep saying how can, as if I don't get that the concept behind this is just...
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You're like that girl on Clueless, like, as if.
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I just genuinely believe that human beings are capable of some kind of rational thought,
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and I'm consistently proven wrong.
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And the worst part is I'm consistently proven wrong in the same fucking episode.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's no rationality here.
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So it's nuts.
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Larry Nichols says a bunch of dumbass bullshit, as he's known to do on the streets.
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As is his want.
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Yeah.
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And then they play...
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On the streets, like he's in The Wire.
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Yeah.
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He's Marlowe out there.
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Yeah.
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My name is my name.
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So Larry Nichols then, they play the documentary, and I don't have any clips of it because who
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gives a fuck?
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But, uh...
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They actually...
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Okay.
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It's just him talking about how, like, now Hillary, she is not going to be taken down
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by Benghazi stuff.
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She's slippery.
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But what's gonna take her down is the documents I have about Vince Foster's murder.
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Oh, man.
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Which we have already covered him saying that the document that he has about Vince Foster's
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murder just miraculously showed up in his mailbox.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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It showed up in his mail.
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He has no idea.
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He gave out his address, and then the document proving, uh, Vince Foster was killed, I gave
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out his mail.
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Yeah.
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No, but no.
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Maybe someone falsified that based on how you keep going on right-wing radio shows.
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Uh-uh.
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Yeah.
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I got a Twitter DM saying it was true.
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Yep.
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That's Paul Joseph Watson style.
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There we go.
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So, like, it is that.
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And he's just like, ah.
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But there's one moment of true comedy where he talks about how, I used to be a bad man.
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I was involved with the Clintons, and then my dad got lung cancer.
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And while he's talking about that, the video is him smoking a cigarette on his porch.
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I don't know why he got lung cancer.
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It's probably some globalist plot.
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They have cures for lung cancer, don't they?
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His life-changing moment that he's describing is brought on by the thing he's doing in the
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video.
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It's crazy.
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Like, I couldn't be involved with these Clintons anymore.
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What about the drugs they brought in my daughter was doing?
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So was it, like, with Larry Nichols, was it really just him kind of getting fucked over
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and then realize that he had it?
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He got fired.
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Yeah, but then he just realized he had a gig just talking shit about the Clintons?
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I don't think.
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Like, that was the genesis of so much horrific.
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I don't think he had any idea how well this was gonna work out.
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Oh, that's possible.
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I think he was a bitter, vindictive dude who was a piece of shit, and was involved -
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Was?
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Is a piece of shit.
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He was involved with -
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Until he dies, and we are gonna call him on that day.
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And I'm not entirely sure what the circumstances were, but he was involved with the Contras.
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Yeah.
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Like, he was involved with, like, Ollie North and all them.
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That's why he got fired from Clinton's White House.
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Oh, do you mean legitimately?
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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He was involved in collecting collect calls and shit like that to Nicaragua.
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And that's why he ended up getting fired, because it was a completely traceable thing.
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We have a call for you from Larry Nichols.
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Will you accept the charges?
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Hang up.
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Hang up.
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No.
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He's just gonna complain about his dog shitting.
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But like, that is -
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This motherfucker has loon kings here.
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Come on, man.
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He was involved as a functionary, like he was hired in some way.
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I'm not entirely sure what other connections he had at that point.
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That's very difficult to trace.
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But he got fired, he blamed Bill for it, and then created this elaborate backstory that
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has been shown to be mostly false repeatedly.
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On so many, so many levels.
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Again, we've talked about this a bunch, but it bears repeating if you haven't listened
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to all of our episodes.
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He was on a right-wing radio show and claimed to be an assassin who killed people for hire
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for the Clintons.
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He was their hired assassin.
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He said that on a radio show, and then when asked about it said, I was high on pills when
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I was on that show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I didn't mean to say that, I never would have said that.
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That's the kind of person we're talking about.
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Once again, important to note, Vince Foster killed himself.
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It was not a murder.
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Yeah.
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The reason that most people think it's a murder is because of this document that just mysteriously
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showed up in Larry Nichols' mailbox.
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And fucking Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
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But a lot of that is from Larry Nichols' stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, exactly.
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They were the ones who publicized it.
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But what they cite is shit.
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They were the judge report of their time.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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But the idea that his body was moved, all that stuff.
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The Clintons forced the Park Department to take the murder investigation instead of the
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FBI.
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All that stuff comes from Larry Nichols.
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Sure.
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And it's...
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I've seen the document that Larry Nichols has, like they've played it on the Alex Jones
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show.
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It's crazy that it was written in crayon.
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Yeah.
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It's really ludicrous.
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It might as well have been.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, that is the late night portion of the 16th.
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Now we get to the 17th.
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The Money Bomb.
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The end of the Money Bomb.
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The Money Bomb comes to a close.
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We are now about 24 hours into the Money Bomb.
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Jesus.
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And Alex Jones is trying to raise a million dollars.
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What kind of lunatic would watch this much Info Wars?
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You're looking at him.
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Fair.
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You don't even watch the David Knight parts.
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Come on.
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No.
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Like, I understand the idea of...
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If you're talking about volume, I've watched it.
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Yeah, that's true.
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But I'm not gonna watch when the side characters are involved.
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They're terrible.
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But why would you do this...
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I just don't understand what it is they think is going to happen if you do a 27 hour show
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versus a four hour show.
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Like who's watching...
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Can I explain?
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Actually yes, please.
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So much.
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Alex Jones knows full well that the only times they're going to be making money are during
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his show.
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But maybe we get a couple thousand.
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Maybe we get a little bit of stragglers.
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I don't have to do any fucking work.
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Rob Doo is doing that work.
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That's true.
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They're doing it.
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And there's a little bit of a stunt aspect to it.
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Maybe some people will throw us a couple thousand dollars because of it and they're like a big
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donation.
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Yeah.
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So there's that.
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There's just...
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We need to be a thinner net on the...
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It's a drain and we gotta catch as much as we can.
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We gotta tighten the drain.
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We gotta make sure we're catching all that hair.
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Now hair is not what you want, but that hair is money in this metaphor.
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So you gotta catch all of it.
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I'm not thrilled with this.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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But you're crushing it so far.
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Keep on going.
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It's the difference between using a thick or thin comb.
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It's just like fine comb.
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We gotta get all the money out of this we can.
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Whole day someone will tune in and maybe be like, all right, I love liberty.
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Here's some money.
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I just think of it in comparison to our usual...
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Or like with Jimmy Pardo, the part cast-a-thon.
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But exactly.
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Their point though is we're going to continue to have a show.
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This is going to be something we're going to have these different guests.
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We're going to have all different types of things for you to tune into, even if you're
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not interested for two hours, like, hey, maybe you're a big fan of Doug Benson or whatever.
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Leo Zagami.
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Yeah.
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So you show up during this section.
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He was great on podcast.
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That would be amazing.
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That would be amazing.
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But that's the thing.
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Other marathons have this kind of idea of like, we need to keep your attention.
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And he doesn't.
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Can I stop you?
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Sure.
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I'm going to do good will.
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Fair.
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Fair.
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Most marathons come from a place of we want to do good.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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Most of the time what they're doing, if it's Jerry's Kids or a part cast-a-thon, they're
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raising money for charity and they hope that things are entertaining.
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And I've watched part cast-a-thon for years and boy, a lot of it is not entertaining.
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True.
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A lot of times it's a slog.
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No argument.
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With this, they don't give a fuck.
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They don't really care.
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It's just a crass marketing campaign.
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It's not like this money is going to charity.
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He's made it very clear the money is just going to the things we already do.
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He's presenting it as things we're going to do in the future, but they already do.
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It's just a fucking slapdash.
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And he's not even offering mugs to people like NPR does.
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So take that part out of it.
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It's just madcap desperation.
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So when he ended his show on the 16th, they had, you know, in the hundreds of thousands
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of dollars raised.
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They were pretty well on their way.
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And here's where we start on the 17th.
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Here's where the finances are on the beginning of the 17th.
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We need about a million dollars to be able to not have to flog the advertising and really
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push things hard to pay for this.
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And $567,000, they're just about to update the graph there that shows it, has come in.
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And the biggest money amount we ever had brought in about $650,000.
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So I guess we're going to break our record today.
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Oh, they just updated.
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It's more than I thought.
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$572,000, $197, so $572,197.
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And so we've already reached the goal of the satellite to close captioning and have over
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$170,000 towards crew, towards travel, towards camera folks, towards editing, towards research,
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towards reporters.
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Crew, research, cameras.
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Research.
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Research.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Yeah.
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Come on.
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Don't pretend you're doing that.
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Come on.
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But all the other stuff that he lists is stuff that he's already doing.
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So like he's presenting it as, fuck, we're 24 hours in.
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We have like $550,000.
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We're not making this million.
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I think there is a part of him that's realizing my audience is not as potent as I want because
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a million dollars, he's been presenting it, this entire lead up to it as it's not that
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much money.
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We're trying to run a media operation.
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It sounds like a lot.
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It's not that much.
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He's milking this stone.
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He's trying to get blood out of this stone.
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And all he's been able to do is, I'll tell you this, he ends with $700,000 or so right
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around there, which is 300,000 short of their goal.
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Now granted, they do make their goal later, days later, because they've just added all
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of their sales that they've gotten from other stuff.
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But the thing that I think is that at a certain point, he didn't need the money.
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I guarantee that he needed half a million.
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But he wanted a million.
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And so it became a thing where now it's not about money, it's about pride.
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It's about who am I?
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It's about how much do I think I'm worth?
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And that's why you can hear a little bit of deflation when he's talking about that.
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He expected to wake up.
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It's not desperation, it's deflation.
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Exactly like, yeah, it's the word you said.
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It's ego damage.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He expected to wake up and the goal be met.
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He expected he'd do this show with Larry Nichols that aired that documentary that everyone
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wants to see.
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Everybody does.
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Which is terrible.
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Also, it's like 28, 30 minutes long.
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It's a disaster.
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Fuck, everyone should watch it though.
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It's so bad.
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It's 30 minutes long.
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It's short, it's Larry Nichols smoking and telling bullshit.
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But he expected, I'm gonna come in on this September 17th, the end of the money bomb,
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and either it's going to be we're at 900,000 and we just gotta get the last push or we're
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already there.
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Or it's gonna be like one and a half million.
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Right.
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And we're gonna, I started this money bomb by saying we have 3.5 billion losers or 3.5
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billion people we touch with our social media presence.
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And I think he's starting to realize he ain't got shit.
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Right.
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Which goes back to what I was talking about with Joe Biggs, when he went there and did
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the Superman with his Hillary for prison shirt, and everyone in the fucking arena there for
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Trump recognized, oh shit, I think that my premise that the money bomb was when money
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gets funneled in, I was wrong.
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But I think the disaster, not disaster necessarily, I would love $500,000, $700,000, I would love
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that.
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But the disappointment of how potent his audience is compared to how glorious the reaction was
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from this Trump audience, I think that those two things do meld in Alex's mind.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So you're seeing his money bomb as him recognizing the real extent of his power, which is 700
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grand.
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Which is not as good as he hoped.
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And you see Joe Biggs showing up at a Trump rally as a like, there is a whole new world
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right here.
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There's an untapped audience.
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That is a lot stronger than our 700 grand.
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Yeah.
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A lot of people love us for our weird bullshit that we're spitting.
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But if we throw in this stuff on top of it.
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They're into some other weird shit.
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I think that's where we get into it.
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He thinks he's throwing in the Trump people on top of it, as opposed to he's surrendering
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to the Trump people.
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I think that might be the beginning of it.
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That's fascinating.
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Yeah.
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That's really interesting.
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I'm not 100% sure, but as I've been listening to this...
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I mean, at the fucking point we're at with this investigation, who the goddamn hell knows
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what's going on?
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I know.
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Every single time I've been certain of something, I'm wrong.
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Yeah.
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No.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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There's no logic to this at all.
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When I look at his back when he told Trump, he's a punk and shut your fat mouth.
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Right.
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When I heard that, I was like, holy fuck.
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Right.
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Maybe...
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And...
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When I heard that, I was like, well, maybe he never gets on the Trump train at all, forgetting
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the world that we live in now.
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When I heard that at work, I texted you.
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I was like, this investigation is so fucked up.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to tell you that.
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You couldn't.
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I was like, how the fuck did he say...
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Because of the constraints of the show.
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Now, here's where shit gets interesting.
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Yes.
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The debate, the Republican debate was on the 16th.
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The second one.
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The night of the 16th.
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Yeah.
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And they did their mystery science theater debate thing on the 16th.
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Alex was not a part of it.
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Which I'm sure was hilarious.
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So much funny.
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So funny.
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So funny.
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Oh yeah.
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Then...
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They really took down Manos, the hands of fate.
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Not libertarian enough.
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So in the next day, Alex gets to respond to the debate stuff.
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And so now we're going to enter a little bit of...
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The Thunderdome.
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A little bit of debate recap.
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Here's Alex Jones giving some of the highlights of last night's debate.
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Oh boy.
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That's coming up.
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Senator Cruz says Planned Parenthood, a criminal enterprise.
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One of the best statements of the night.
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Big props to Senator Cruz.
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This is also based on all the Center for Medical Progress videos.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Ted Cruz is citing all those videos about selling baby parts.
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I've cut out so much of Alex complaining about that stuff, because it's just so boring.
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We don't need to cover it over and over again.
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Anytime anybody references Cruz in the context of a phrase that doesn't end with, lost his
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feet, I'm bummed.
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But for the entire span that we've been covering, Alex has been complaining about those Center
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for Medical Progress videos.
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He is talking about how legally, legally, legally, they can take a baby out.
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They can take a baby out, right?
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A live baby?
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Live baby.
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Okay.
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They drug the woman up.
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What's the name?
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Hold on.
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They drug the woman up, and as long as the baby is touching the mother, they can cut
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it up.
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They can cut it up and take the organs.
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But if the baby stops touching the mother-
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No.
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No, no, no, no, Dan.
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No.
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Yeah.
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They refuse to even believe that even the most irrational of human beings would accept
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that as a reasonable response.
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Alex has been pitching that as a narrative.
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It's crazy.
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That can't be true.
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So also, a couple days before this, before September 17th-
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It's like a home base argument.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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We're talking about home base.
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We're talking about Red Rover situation.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Pudding up baby.
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All right.
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No, no, no.
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That's fine.
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That's fine.
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Gotcha.
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Be that as it may, I think it was on the 15th of September 2015, the congressional investigation
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started into these videos and into Planned Parenthood, which now, because we're in the
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future, we know they cleared them of any wrongdoing and found-
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Any and all wrongdoing.
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And found that those videos were deceitfully manipulated and edited poorly.
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And they have been sued appropriately.
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And Alex-
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Or not appropriately.
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They've been sued.
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But actually, it's really fucked up.
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Since we've started talking about this, the court case was still in motion.
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Oh.
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Just the last week, a bunch of those charges, we have said in the past that they have 15
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felonies that are being put on them.
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A bunch of those charges got dropped, like last week.
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God damn it.
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Yeah, I know.
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Why do we live?
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I don't know.
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That's a-
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But a lot of it-
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There wasn't a, in this world, it was just, why do we live?
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A lot of it comes down to technicalities, and it just becomes like a, is it worth prosecuting
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this further?
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Yeah, you get somebody on tax evasion, you know, you don't get them on murdering everybody
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you've ever known.
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All that aside, every investigation into whether these videos are full of shit have shown they're
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full of shit.
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So anyway, that's what Ted Cruz was talking about in a presidential debate.
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Why are we here?
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And Alex loves it.
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Of course.
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He's into fucking Cruz.
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He's into Cruz.
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Yeah.
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So here we go.
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Bush says, 40 years ago, he smoked marijuana.
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I admit it.
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Ooh, big deal.
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You mean 40 years ago, your family shipped cocaine in.
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That'd be a bigger admission.
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Donald Trump says Rand Paul shouldn't be on the stage, and he's ugly.
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Trump, you look pretty goofy to me.
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Agreed.
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I mean, I'll say it.
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Rand Paul's got curly hair, which I don't think looks goofy, but I guess you could say
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it looks goofy from your perspective.
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You look like you have a dead blonde possum on your head, and it used to be brown.
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Then it was chimpanzee colored, and now it's blonde.
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So you get your hair bleached, Trump, to then turn it blonde.
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So if anybody looks like a freak, it's you.
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And I'm not up here attacking him, but he can't sit there and make comments about how
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people look, and then not expect to have it thrown back at him.
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Agreed.
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I mean, it's just unbelievable.
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Good point.
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Good point.
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It's unbelievable.
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Then he goes on to say good things, where he talks about the fact that this is a country
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where we speak English, not Spanish.
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No.
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No.
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Alex, you had me.
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Not great.
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That's a pretty solid burn on Trump, though.
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That's not too bad.
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It's super unexpected.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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Considering we know that three months after this point, Trump is on Alex's show.
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That's so fucked up.
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What is going on?
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I don't know.
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He hasn't said any of these negative things.
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How do you not think there's some sort of backroom negotiation going on, right?
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Figure me out.
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Here's what I think.
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Oh, fuck, yes.
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Give it to me.
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Give it to me, Dan.
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I think the payment hasn't cleared.
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You think the check hasn't cleared?
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Like he's endorsed it, but he's still like, I don't know if it's going to bounce.
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Why do you think he's surprised to wake up and there's 500,000 in the...
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Okay.
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Why do you think he's disappointed?
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So he's mad because he hasn't reached the million dollar goal yet, and he thinks that
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the million dollar goal would have been met if the check had cleared?
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That seems crazy.
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I can't tell how fucking much of what I'm trying to pitch is.
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I'm just trying to make sense of this shit.
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I love you.
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It's so crazy.
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And I want you to be right, but that's too far.
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But it's nonsense.
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Take all of that, because I don't think that's necessarily true.
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Take all... I mean, the shit about Trump's hair is absolutely
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true.
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100%.
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Looks exactly like what he described.
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Take my nonsense out of it.
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The thought that he can be, fuck you, shut your mouth, you're a punk, eh, you're fine,
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you stop talking about immigrants, whatever.
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Oh, you're mad at Rand Paul.
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I'm going to fucking attack you about your appearance to being, I fucking look, can I
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suck your dick, please?
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Yeah.
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Within three months is crazy.
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Yeah.
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There's no ground, and the idea that once he becomes Trump's cheerleader, he doesn't
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think that all this still exists on the internet?
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Well, as we've established, he has no concept of the past.
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Well, the idea that all that stuff- Every time we've gone through, Alex Jones
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says this now in defense of, we go back and we have a clip of him saying, and this is
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the same thing with fucking Trump.
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Nothing Trump has ever said, we have a tweet saying him, of him saying the opposite.
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Or our new friend, Scaramucci.
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They just don't even fucking care.
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They don't care.
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They don't care.
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Nobody is actually holding them accountable, which is the big issue.
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We can go on Twitter and we can see people going like, here's what they said, here's
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what they used to say, but nobody's actually fucking doing anything.
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We're trying.
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And I don't know what to do.
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We're trying.
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I wake up every day and I don't know what to do.
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Dan, tell me what to do.
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I can't tell you, but we're trying.
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We got a couple more clips to get through.
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Let's do this.
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Okay.
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We're on hour 17.
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Yeah, we're trying to do a fundraiser.
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We're just bad at it.
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So I made a point of the fact that Alex has been very pro-Russia, as we've seen.
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Or at the very least pro-strong man, pro-Putin, not necessarily pro-Russia.
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No, no, that's not fair.
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Pro-Russia and pro-Assad.
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He has been.
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He has been pro-Russia.
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Before this episode, he's been pro-strong man.
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The things he said in this episode have been legitimately pro-Russia, pro-Assad.
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You're right.
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I agree.
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This next clip brings it home.
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They don't like saying we're fighting ISIS when they've got to resupply C-130's landing,
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delivering them weapons on the hour, in battle with Russian commandos who are on the right
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side.
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Do you think America, the actual military, likes being clearly on the bad side with Al
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Qaeda, launching wars, and then back home, we've got to take your rights away because
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of Al Qaeda?
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Do you think anybody in the government likes being part of that?
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So Alex Jones in that clip essentially is saying that we are on the wrong side of everything.
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Russia is on the right side of everything.
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But how?
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What is his justification for it?
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We have funded and created Al Qaeda and ISIS in order to destabilize Syria, and because
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of that, we are on the wrong side of everything.
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Russia and Assad are really just trying to destroy the forces that we have brought in
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there for destabilization, and, you know, that makes sense.
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I just don't get that very simplistic argument because there's a -
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Well, because it's dumb.
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In the same way that there's a kernel of truth to it that is also such a willful misunderstanding
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of the way that the world works, it's hard to imagine.
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Totally.
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So Alex Jones is in favor of Russia and Assad.
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Great.
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Cool.
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But what's the motivation for him being in favor of Assad at this point?
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We already talked about it.
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We already talked about it.
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He's in favor of all of these Russian propaganda outlets.
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He's beholden to RT and Sputnik as information sources.
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I mean, yeah, you make the good point of him as information sources, but if you do -
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They put out stories about -
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If you do even -
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No, because the things that you will say about Assad being oppressive to his people -
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Murdering!
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Not being oppressive!
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Murdering!
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Right?
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All that stuff.
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Gassing.
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Yeah.
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I like how you yadda yadda.
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All that stuff.
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No, no, no.
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That's what I was going to get to as my sense went along.
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No, no, no, no.
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I know.
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I just had to -
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The Russian version of it that comes out in Sputnik and RT is that it is Western-backed
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rebel forces that are faking these attacks.
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I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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That is the narrative.
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That's their narrative?
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Yes.
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For real?
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Yes!
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And that's the narrative that Alex buys.
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So because -
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And that's why we've talked about this on the show a bunch of times.
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Yeah.
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Alex has these people on who are disreputable sources, like Larry C. Johnson.
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Yeah.
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And I can't remember that ambassador guy who he had on who had clear financial interests.
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Yeah, of course.
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Well, fucking every - if you're Russian and you are on media of any sort, you probably
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have ties to the oligarchy.
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With a couple exceptions, yes, absolutely.
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So that is the narrative that Alex is on board with.
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It seems dumb, it seems wild, but that's what he pushes.
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Every single thing -
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It's the Assad thing, though, that - like, I get arguing other Russian things, but Assad
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has so very clearly set out to murder his own people.
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Well, here's where -
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It seems like such a simp - it seems like a Hitler thing all over again.
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Like, are you for Hitler murdering Jews or against?
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That's what Assad is to me.
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Well, here's where Alex gets his leeway, is that Obama said the red line is using gas
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attacks on your people.
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And then he didn't do shit, which he thinks - which Obama has clearly stated is one of his more
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proud moments of not sending the world into World War III.
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Agreed.
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But Alex's, and all of Russian media's argument about that is, why the fuck would Assad do
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that if Obama said that that was a red line?
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Why would they do that?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That's a -
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Which is compelling -
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That's an interesting angle, yeah.
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I agree.
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It's compelling to a ton of people if you don't think Obama might have been bluffing.
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Okay.
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So -
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Because the end result legitimately is World War III.
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So what their -
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Like, if we went in - if Obama saw gassing of the people -
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Yeah.
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So he makes his red line.
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Right.
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And if Obama knows that it happens, and he doesn't get in there and fucking burn the
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shit to the ground, then it must be that he also knows it's a false flag.
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Right.
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And also, before that, Putin had made very clear that he was not going to accept any
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of our aggression in Syria.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like, it is a much more complicated chess game than Alex is presenting.
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Right, right, right.
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All of it is just to serve this Russian propaganda message.
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I'm not saying that he's an agent of Russia.
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That's not at all my -
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No, but that's -
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He's just dumb.
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He falls -
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That's not the - yeah, yeah.
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That's not the narrative.
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No.
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Why would you even need him to be an agent of Russia -
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No.
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That's stupid.
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- if you have this kind of weird - it's such a - man, foreign policy is tough.
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I don't know -
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It's very complicated.
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Dan, I don't know if you know this or not, but global foreign policy?
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Very complicated.
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I'm a wonk.
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Anyway -
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Very complicated.
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So, all that aside, I want to be entirely clear.
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We did - we've made a lot of mistakes in terms of arming rebels and stuff like that throughout
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the entirety of our history as a country.
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America?
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Yeah.
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Disagree.
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Right.
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No nationalism.
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That said, Putin, Assad are not good guys.
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And what they're doing in Syria?
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Not good.
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Assad should be lit on fire.
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Yeah.
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Now.
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So -
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Right now.
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If you are a knowledge fighter and you are within, let's say, three feet of Assad and
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you can light him on fire, please light him on fire.
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Just make him hot for a little bit.
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Just burn him to death.
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No, if you've got like a -
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If he survives, you're lighting him on fire.
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Lighting him on fire ten more times.
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And then meme it.
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So -
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Yeah, like the anti-CNN that memes you?
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Actually, Alex just paid out $20,000.
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All right.
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Kill us all.
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Just paid out $20,000.
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Just fucking.
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Just fucking.
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I'm done.
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What a shock.
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I'm done.
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What a shock.
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You know who won?
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Who won?
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Some guy that Alex Jones offered a job to.
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Jesus.
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It was that guy?
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Well, there are two guys.
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Fuck off.
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Two guys.
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Yeah.
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Alex Jones offered a job to the first and second place guys, but here was the fucking
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awesome.
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Like, I wish -
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Fuck.
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I'm so -
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I'm an idiot because I don't have the clip of this.
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But it's so fucking hilarious.
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He's sitting there and he's like, all right, I told Paul Joseph Watson he got to pick the
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winner and I don't think this is the winner.
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I think the winner is the Braveheart one.
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That guy's great.
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You got a job.
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Just hit me up.
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You got a job.
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Please.
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I want to work with you.
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You got a job.
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A guy did a Braveheart version of -
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You got a job.
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It's just Braveheart, but with Trump as William Wallace.
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And he's like, you got a job.
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No, look, I told Paul Joseph Watson he could choose the winner and he got the $20,000.
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It's honor bound.
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What did Rappaport have to do to get a job?
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He just cucked out the winner of the fucking contest that he started.
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Of course.
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The winner was - okay, of course it's a movie.
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I'm going to give you three guesses.
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I'm going to give you three guesses.
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And now consider the mythology -
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Gladiator.
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Gladiator.
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Gladiator.
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That's your first?
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Gladiator.
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No.
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That's also my second.
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Gladiator again.
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Consider the mythology of Infowars.
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Okay.
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How he talks about false realities.
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Oh, the Patriot.
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No.
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Um.
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You got one more.
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This should be obvious.
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All other Mel Gibson movies.
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No.
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But it should be obvious.
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Come on.
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You got this.
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Infowars.
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Um.
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A scanner darkly?
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Like I don't know.
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That's closer.
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I got nothing.
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Matrix.
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Oh, come on.
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No.
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That - you can't even - that was made by trans women.
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Yeah, I know.
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You don't get to steal that.
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Oh, they did.
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You don't get to.
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It's that scene where Agent Smiths are shooting at Neo down a hallway and he stops the bullets.
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Yeah.
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And all the bullets are fake news.
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Dives into - oh, fuck off.
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Yeah, it's nonsense.
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Jesus Christ.
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But he paid $20,000 and has offered both of them jobs.
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Have we considered doing one of those?
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No.
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I bet we could come up with a better idea.
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We can't play meme warfare.
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That's true.
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It's nonsense.
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That's true.
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That is a fickle, fly-by-night piece of bullshit.
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Yeah.
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We've got to get these last two clips out.
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We've got two -
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Yeah.
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We're on hour seven and a half.
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Jordan.
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Yes.
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The debate.
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Yes.
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Alex mentioned this a little bit earlier, that Trump said some good things in the debate.
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Right.
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Now, one of them was that people speak English here, not Spanish, which sucks.
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I didn't like that.
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I didn't like that.
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It sucks.
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But Trump said some other things that Alex did like, and they're not good.
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But I've got to say, as a litmus test, Donald Trump coming out against vaccines and saying,
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I've got a lot of friends and family who've got brain-damaged kids from this, shows that
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he really cares about people, and he knows the system's going to come after him, and
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he understands what's going on.
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And when the rubber meets the road, he doesn't want to be involved in brain damaging tens
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of millions of children.
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Which is why he's removing health care.
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The vaccines are linked to increased cancer, neurological disorders, autoimmune disorders.
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It says it on the stinking inserts.
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And Ben Carson, a medical doctor, a brain surgeon, not an epidemiologist, not a virologist,
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he just sits there and says it's wonderful because he's a good guy as a doctor, so he
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believes everything they're doing must be wonderful.
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I like you making fun of his doctorate when you're also not a doctor.
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But that, in the debate, Trump talked about how when he had kids, he spaced out the vaccines.
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Because he thought that like...
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That's the argument that I've heard a bunch recently.
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If they get that full vaccine, it's a horse tranquilizer.
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It's a huge horse needle, which isn't true at all.
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And then I don't want to put too fine a point on this, and we're already four hours into
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this podcast, but I have looked into all of it and all of the anti-vax stuff.
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It's bullshit.
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It's all bullshit.
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It's absolutely nonsense.
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It's been bullshit since the 1890s.
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Since vaccines were created, one guy got a fucking thing happened to him within two weeks
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of a vaccine, and he was like, well, it's vaccines.
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It is always bullshit.
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It is always fucking bullshit.
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I can't begin to deal with how much I hate you if you're an anti-vaxxer.
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All of it is sussed out legitimately by one sentence that is one of the most important
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sentences in terms of statistics, and that is that correlation does not imply causation.
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If there is something that there is a slight relation to, you can't say just because there's
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a relation that X caused Y.
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You can't.
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That's science.
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Correlation does not equal causation is the bane of our existence.
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The fact that it is true and the fact that it is almost impossible for most people to
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recognize is the most destructive force, I don't know, in my lifetime.
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One of the biggest cases about this, and Alex Jones talks about, like in the UK, the guy
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who did studies about vaccines- It was the Dred Scott case, right?
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No.
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It was this guy named Andrew Wakefield, and he did some studies that were called into
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question and he got fired because it turned out he was taking a ton of money from lawyers
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that were discredited and his license was revoked.
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There were lawyers who were trying to get a class action lawsuit going on behalf of
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people who hated vaccines, and he got like $400,000 from those lawyers.
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And so all of his studies, people who signed onto his studies in the past not knowing that
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monetary payment, who were involved, they were like, oh shit.
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Wait.
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Hold on a second.
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Are you saying that when you get money involved with healthcare, bad things happen?
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Especially with studies.
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Nah.
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Can't believe it.
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Especially when conclusions are- Capitalism!
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Free market!
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Free market, baby.
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Guns!
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Prosperity.
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Prosperity.
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Anyway, Alex is pretty thrilled with that anti-vax message.
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But I honestly think, if I can be totally clear, I think that no matter what happened
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in that debate, Alex would find something to love.
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About Trump?
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Yeah.
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You think so?
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Yeah.
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I think it's in his timeline.
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So you think this is the money situation again?
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I do.
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So he fixated on one thing that Trump said.
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Like now I kind of want to go back- Can I tell you why?
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I would rather die, but I kind of want to go back and watch that debate to see how many
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things Trump said that he would have disagreed with versus how many he did agree with.
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I have no idea.
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Right?
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But I did go back and look into Trump's anti-vax history, and he got in some fucking hot water
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like three months before this for anti-vax stuff.
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And he has an anti-vax history that goes back to like 2005.
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Oh, so it's a full-on birther kind of situation where it's been there from the beginning.
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This isn't news.
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This is just he said it at a debate.
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Right.
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And so Alex Jones' position is like, he's going to be attacked for this, but he had
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been attacked for it already.
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He's pretending that this is some sort of like new wrinkle in his character, which it's
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not.
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I honestly think- Well, I mean in the context of his campaign,
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has this been a thing?
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No, I don't think this has been.
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He's been too busy complaining about immigrants, though.
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Well, and in the same way that in his campaign, it hasn't been all about birtherism, you know?
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It hasn't been all about- Hey, he didn't start that.
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He stopped it.
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Yeah, so I think that there's a little bit of manipulation going on.
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Yeah.
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A little bit.
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And if Alex Jones, like- At the very least.
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In terms of our show, this is maybe four episodes back, but Alex Jones, when he made his pivot
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to stop talking shit about Trump in terms of his mob ties, he said, I went back and
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I did deep research on him.
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Bullshit.
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He watched all his speeches, and if he had done that, he would already know that he has
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a history of being an anti-vaccination guy.
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He hasn't been not that for years.
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So this shouldn't be news to him.
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Such a luxury for rich people to be anti-vax.
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Such a luxury.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my kids go to all schools where everybody has been vaccinated, so I don't have to worry
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about it.
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They're not pregnant.
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Also, this version of anti-vax, where it's like, I spaced it out over six years.
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Fucking fuck you.
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Yeah, it's not great either.
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Fuck you.
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I've established it, I think, pretty consistently, but if you're anti-vax, I hope you kill yourself
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and then kill your children.
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That seems hard.
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No, that's a good order for that.
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All right, well, we all know that our descendants are still with us.
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We got one more clip, and this is Alex talking more about Trump's anti-vax position.
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What I know about what he's going to be going through now for saying that, and looking at
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the look in his eye, I guarantee you Donald Trump doesn't like seeing his friends have
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brain-damaged kids all around him.
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It's a large portion of people have giggling, happy 18-month-old baby boys.
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Their blood-brain barrier is not strong as a girl's.
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They go in to get that last round of shots.
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Billy don't ever talk again.
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That's why a lot of members of Congress are against vaccines, because you or your kid
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or your grandchildren take a shot and never talk again, that'll wake some people up.
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So I got to say it, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump, they are the three presidential
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contenders, in my view, from a position of liberty.
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Now we have come to our own new place.
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Yeah, we've narrowed it down.
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And that's fucked up.
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Yeah.
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Because he loves Rand Paul.
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He will very soon humiliate Ted Cruz, and he will become the biggest blowjob machine
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for Donald Trump.
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Which is funny.
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But this-
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That is the one true joy I took out of that campaign, is Ted Cruz turning into a little
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bitch.
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Uh, this is, like, I don't know how to say it, I was right.
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My argument-
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So what you're saying is that we began this episode with Dan being right, and we ended
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it with Dan being right.
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I think I'm right, but not the way I expected.
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Because I predicted earlier that when Alex makes his pivot to Trump, it will be superficial.
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It'll be about some issue that he already, it's not new.
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It's not new.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And that is what he has sort of done.
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Now he's not the cheerleader yet.
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He's still just saying these three guys are liberty candidates.
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He's narrowed it down.
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Yeah.
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Which is-
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Which is already fucked up enough as it is.
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Like the candidate, I don't understand how it is that he professes to be libertarian,
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and theoretically non-partisan.
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And yet at the same time, every enemy is leftist.
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Every fear comes from inclusion.
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Every fear comes from any kind of, we should all be part of the same world, which is also
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his professed ideology in that the globalists are trying to keep us from becoming an inclusive
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society.
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He wants the inclusion, but he knows that it's a globalist plot.
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He's talked about Sanders a couple times already, and he's been like, this fucking ding-dong,
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this asshole.
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Which, to me, it seems like he would wind up coming down between Sanders and Rand Paul.
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That's what Jesse Ventura does.
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Exactly, exactly.
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Because Jesse Ventura is pure.
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Ventura is like, hey, Sanders or Rand Paul.
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That's what Ventura is.
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Jesse Ventura has a philosophy.
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He has an ideological consistency, and Alex doesn't believe really in anything.
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I honestly think what we're coming to, and what I've learned from listening to these
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past three weeks or two weeks that we've covered, is he is a harsh, opportunistic asshole.
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He wants his money.
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He wants his money.
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And I think he realized when Joe Biggs...
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That's actually gonna be, when we write the screenplay for our documentary, it will be
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the tagline is, Alex Jones.
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He wants his money.
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Well, we predicted earlier that it would be a thing where it's like, he's trying to get
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the Mercers or Trump to try and come in as big money donors.
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And that may still be the case.
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But I think he started this million dollar campaign, and he's like, it's not happening.
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In the meantime, we've recognized Joe Biggs went out there and everyone wanted that shirt.
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That is a market we can fucking tap into.
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How do we rationalize this?
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We rationalize it.
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There was a debate last night.
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He said something anti-vaccination that he said a hundred times already.
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Now it's like, fuck, we soft kill babies.
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He's against that.
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All right, I'm in.
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Exactly.
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That's so disappointing.
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I want it to be some kind of nefarious thing.
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It's still nefarious.
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It's still pretty nefarious.
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That's a good point.
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It needs, to me, in order for us to, I don't know, I guess it's more like I feel like we
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need a scoop.
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I feel like we need some kind of angle that nobody's ever touched before.
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But if it just winds up being weird, shitty opportunism, it bums me out, right?
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Shouldn't there be some sort of Mercer money?
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Shouldn't there be some sort of third party donor who's like, all right, now I direct
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things.
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It used to be the gold guy, but now it's me.
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Well Ted Anderson is involved to this day, so that he hasn't gone.
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I mean, gold guys are always going to be around.
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I would say that you should take solace in knowing that no one has done as much listening
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to his show as we have.
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I don't take solace in that at all.
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But we do have a scoop, whatever the case is.
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That's true.
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There's no reason that the Mercers are the ones who did it, or Trump money.
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There's still a scoop here, because he didn't fucking care about Trump two days before,
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and now he's a fucking contender.
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Right back on an anti-vaxxer situation.
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He's all over the place, and when he becomes the 1776 2.0 guy.
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It's not just going to become, it's not because of things Trump said five years ago.
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Well that's the thing that gets me, is that it seems like right now he's going off of
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things Trump says.
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Like he's going off of things that Trump, like Trump says something I like, so I say
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nice things about him.
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Trump says something I don't like, so I don't say nice things about him.
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Trump says something I like.
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Like that's the problem that I have.
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It should be something that is at least consistent, and until we get to that consistent point,
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it just seems like he's full of shit.
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Yeah, you're a dumb-dumb.
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There's never going to be- Fair.
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There's never going to- Fair.
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No, that's fair.
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There's never going to be a point when Alex Jones is consistent.
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Fair.
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Yeah, he's a crazy person.
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I don't know why, but I still- He has brain damage.
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I still live in this world of like- He did mess.
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I still live in the world of I believe people believe in things, and Alex doesn't.
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You know what- And that's why you're right about that fucking
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meme is that the consistent argument is always people believe shit, and Alex doesn't have
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a belief system.
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Nope.
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Alex has elves, and then we move on.
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He's rogue.
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He's completely rogue.
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Yeah, as are all of those fucking alt-right guys.
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It doesn't matter to them.
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They move on.
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In the same way that in that story that Tom Arnold told, they got to get a bunch of publicity
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out of calling Tom Arnold a pussy and then canceling the fight, and no one on their side
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knows that they canceled the fight.
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It just didn't happen.
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They can say he backed out.
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He was involved with the coordination of it.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter.
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Perception is king.
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Yeah.
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All of it's bullshit.
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Everything is bullshit.
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Anyway, we'll be back with the next stage of this investigation and other shit.
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I don't want to talk about the present much, but-
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Unless the present turns out to be very interesting, which so far to this circumstance it has been
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very depressing.
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Well, it's just like he doesn't talk about the actual things that are happening in the
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administration.
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No, it's been boring.
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Yeah.
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It's like, oh, Scaramucci's in, hey, that's because Sean Spicer was a deep state agent.
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It would be really interesting though if he did get into, like if he did have sources
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like Donald Trump Jr., who would get him inside information on how the dynamics of the administration
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was working.
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Which, by the way, this week-
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Bananas.
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Like this week, as this episode comes out, Jr. may have to show up in front of the Senate.
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As will DT himself.
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Manafort.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we'll see.
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I mean, they're probably-
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They won't.
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No.
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Of course not.
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No.
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They're going to be pardoned.
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It's nonsense.
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You get it?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But hey, if you don't want to be pardoned, you should go to our website.
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I refuse that transition.
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Reject.
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Nope.
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That was me.
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Reject entirely.
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It was me slightly buzzed.
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I pivoted on the word.
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Reject entirely.
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I did that last episode.
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You don't even remember it.
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That's because we've been drinking wine this entire episode.
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Beyond that, I'd like to apologize.
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This episode has been this long.
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Jesus Christ.
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I think we-
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How long has it been?
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We are at four hours.
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This is the longest episode so far.
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Not true.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yes, it is.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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We've not breached four hours.
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You've not breached four?
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No.
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Dude, you-
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The Joe Rogan was the closest, I think.
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You called it-
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It's close.
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You called it 3.15 and I was like, nah, this ain't happening.
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It's coming to four.
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I think if you had not disrupted me so many times-
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No.
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Don't-
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Don't pretend this wasn't on purpose.
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I was going to make this episode four hours no matter what happened.
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Look, it's the wine, it's the good times, and it's the truth, guys.
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Policy wonks.
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We love you all very much.
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We don't love-
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I'll tell you there's somebody we don't love.
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God damn it.
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Damn it.
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Damn.
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You are ruining the ending bit.
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I was trying to help.
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I was trying to help you asshole.
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You asshole.
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I was trying to help you asshole.
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I was trying to be like, oh shit, there's an inroad to get to John Rappaport.
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Do you know who doesn't help us?
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This one guy.
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What one guy?
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This one guy.
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Who is he?
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Fuck.
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I ran into the-
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Is he young or is he old?
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He's really old.
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He's really old?
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I was at this fucking anti-AIDS conference.
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I was at this conference about how AIDS isn't real.
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I'm already out.
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I hung out with him.
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He was really cool.
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We did shots of JMo.
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It was super cool.
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What about him?
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At the end of the night, I gotta be honest, I skipped out on his tab.
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This is the best the bit has gone so far.
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I skipped out on his tab.
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He said he was going to the bathroom.
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I was like, I'll stick around here.
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What did you say about this guy?
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I said, fuck you John Rappaport.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
