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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight, Dan and George, knowledge fight, need money, Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy, stop
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it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray, Andy and Kansas, you're on the air,
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thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work, knowledge fight,
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knowledgefight.com, I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple dudes,
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I like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan, quick question for you, what's your bright
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spot today buddy?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, is I have heard the voice of the people.
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You've heard the voice of the people, all the people?
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I have listened to feedback and criticism, and I have reformatted my coverage of Alex's
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book The Great Reset into a PDF that is downloadable, because I was a little defensive about it
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in the immediate aftermath, because it was a huge undertaking, but putting it on subsequent
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pages on a website was a very bad idea for how to lay things out.
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It can be.
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And so I have corrected that and it is now in a PDF, if you go to alexjonesisanidiot.com,
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it is all there, and you can download it, I believe you can load it into an e-reader,
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even, I don't know, whatever you can do with PDFs.
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Oh you can do it all.
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So yeah, that's there, and it's a relief because that was hanging over my head a little bit
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of like, I want the information to be accessible to people, and this is obviously not the way
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to have done it, but yeah, I think in the future I've figured out how to do it, which
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is to say I've figured out how to make a PDF, which is great, at almost 40.
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I think it's interesting that you've been putting Excel on your resume for all these
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years.
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I think I probably have.
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I think so too.
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Yeah.
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So many things I put on my resume unchallenged, it never came up.
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Until you need them.
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Right.
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Man, that would really be useful right now, that thing I said I could do all these years.
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Turns out I can't.
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Turns out, yep.
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So what's your Brightspot?
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My Brightspot is another year wrapped up a Games Done Quick marathon, it was a lot of
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fun.
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I had planned a joke where my Brightspot was going to be the awesome Games Done Quick because
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I knew it was going to be yours and I was going to steal it from you.
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Oh, you chunked it.
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You chunked it.
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You had to get too excited about that thing that you created that I think is really great.
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Well, all right.
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So what was your high point of the games?
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There were some great runs.
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There was a dog, a dog did a run.
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A dog played a game.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A guy trained his dog.
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I don't know, it was a game about sleepwalking, it was like the dog, but anyways, the dog
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pressed the button and then it un-pressed the button.
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It's etc.
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You get it.
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It's not really much of a game.
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My favorite though was somebody had hooked up a drum set, a drum kit midi style to Super
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Mario 64.
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So they were playing the game through the drums.
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How do you do directions?
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So that was the idea.
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So there was north, south, you know, that kind of thing on all of the toms.
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So then you keep moving forward.
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You have to roll to keep moving forward and then he had a thing he could hit so it contained
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his momentum.
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Then he had a jump button, he had a whole thing.
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In order to spin Bowser around he had to do full spin rolls.
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It was fantastic.
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It was great.
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Did he beat the game?
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Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He beat the game.
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That would be exhausting.
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It was, it took like a half hour.
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It was ridiculous.
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That's still, like that's the best cardio.
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Yeah, it was amazing.
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I watched somebody, I think I had a, just it was recommended on YouTube, I'm not entirely
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sure why, but I had a marble game.
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Marble Madness.
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Marble Madness.
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Yeah, I have vague memory of that from like old Nintendo or maybe, maybe not, maybe it's
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just very similar to games that I played on Nintendo, but I was like, I'll check this
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out.
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Sure.
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It was very boring.
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Yeah.
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It's just people, marble physics.
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It does happen.
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That can, that can backfire.
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Yeah.
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But, hey, they're raising money for charities, who gives a shit?
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Yeah, they raised, they raised 2.5 plus million dollars this year.
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Not too bad.
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Not too bad.
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And what's cool about that, far greater than any of that, cause you know, cancer's a disease
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and we all die no matter what.
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Sure.
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But what we don't have to deal with is people who deny human rights and one of the constant
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refrains to the point that you cannot escape it is that trans rights are human rights.
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Sure.
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And they always make sure to fucking go hard on that, so.
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Okay.
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Super cool.
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That's good.
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Yep.
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Good for them.
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Good folk.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Yeah.
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And I decided, ah, fuck this noise.
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Good call.
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I'm going to the past.
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I genuinely don't, I don't need to know the next part of that series.
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Yeah.
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Tired of the present.
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Yeah.
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Going to the past.
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Good.
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So today we're going to be talking about April 2nd through 5th.
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Alright.
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2004.
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And that's a Friday and a Monday.
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Okay.
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So it's not really that much.
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Right, right, right.
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A huge stretch of a time.
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But, ah, man, man oh man.
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What fun.
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I mean, comparatively.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no, no.
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It's good.
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It's good stuff.
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Um, yeah, there's actually some interesting things that go down in this episode and I'm
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thrilled to discuss them, but until we get to that, ooh shit, let's say hello to some
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new wonks, Jordan.
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That's a great idea.
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Because my mouth ain't working.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, my name is Nick and I come from sports.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I come from sports!
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I do think that might be your greatest contribution to the public space.
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I love that one.
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I come from sports.
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Next, if you trust me, my name to read was Balls, Balls, Balls.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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You were supposed to do that in a voice.
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What?
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What?
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Is it a reference?
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Who did?
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I forgot to...
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You didn't put a voice in there.
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A voice note.
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I think you were supposed to do it in like a circus announcer's voice.
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I guess I just made you say Balls, Balls, Balls for no reason.
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And a weird fucking silence after the name.
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Weird energy thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyways, it's all good.
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It's all good.
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So next, Alex Jones graduated from my mother-in-law's College of Revisionist History.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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I'm Alex Jones, Bishop Archie of the Archdiocese of Arches.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You can't catch me.
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You can't fuck me up with those arches.
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I think I'm gonna tongue twist.
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And Kristen Ursine Enthusiast.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You almost got me.
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Yeah, I know you can.
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You got too cocky.
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Ursine Enthusiast.
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And we got a second crowd in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Please Dance, sing as much of One Night in Bangkok you can remember
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because it's a banger and I love chess.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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I think I've sung about enough of it, as much of it as I remember.
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I just, I think, I think I've sung all the lyrics that I remember.
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I think you have, yeah.
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I think I've mentioned so.
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I've got to find another Murray Head song to just like pretend to like or something.
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You know?
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I mean, yeah, I think Got To is strong.
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Can.
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Could.
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It's possible.
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When You Have Time.
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I could pretend.
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Maybe.
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I feel like Got To suggests a level of urgency that maybe it doesn't require.
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Do you think it's a good character choice for me to just insist that I really love that
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song The King of Wishful Thinking?
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Do I think it's a good character choice?
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Let me give you two choices.
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Okay.
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King of Wishful Thinking.
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Sure.
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Or Mandolin Rain.
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Listen to the mandolin rain.
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Or I'll get over you, I know I will.
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I'm going to have to go with Mandolin Rain.
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You're wrong.
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So Jordan, like I said, today we have an episode where in the past there will be some
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interesting things to talk about, some stupid things, but first here is an out of context
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draw.
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I would have heard that our son has another son.
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He would have.
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Yeah, that's probably true.
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There's a part we're not going to listen to at all where Alex gets really mad at a guy
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for not giving specifics about how there's another son that's going to crash into the
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earth.
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Oh!
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I was in my head being like, alright, secret families.
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Why is there a conspiracy about Rex having his own secret family?
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Wow, Rex would have been a young'un at this point.
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Too young, too young.
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Gotcha.
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This is a solar system issue.
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This is a solar system issue.
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Yep.
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Gotcha.
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So we start off here and we dive in, see what Alex is concerned about on April 2, 2004.
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Two years ago I told you that I saw Governor Ridge, even before Homeland Security got funding
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in late 2002, on C-SPAN with a whole bunch of corporate chieftains, two hour press conference
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or meeting and I taped it, got it in the big stacks here, someday I hope to put a clip
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of it in a video, and Governor Ridge said to have a job, your national ID card through
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the driver's license will have your four levels of security clearance.
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It'll have to be federal approved to have a job anywhere.
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And with a new national sales tax, that will bring federal enforcement into every business
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as the overseers.
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Well, the Washington Times reported on this five days ago and I just learned of it and
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I have the article.
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So you can tune in here and hear it two years before or you can just read the mainstream
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media and find out later.
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Okay.
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It says you're on the list, no job for you.
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That's the headline.
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And if you end up getting on the list, how do you do that?
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Well, bad credit, you go from a green to a yellow and you have to go work off the debts
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to be able to get a job.
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And the government's going to have the new national civilian draft domestically for them
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and environmental land grabbing programs, gun grabbing, Stasi, title tail squads.
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It's all been announced.
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It's all been announced.
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It's all been announced.
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It's all happening.
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I mean...
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None of that is happening.
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How many colors do you need for a system like this?
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You know, you go from green to yellow.
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He's imagining the terrorism watch color coded index.
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But I mean, in a practical sense, how many, if we're setting up this system, how many
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colors would we need on the color wheel of how much debt you have?
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Right?
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I think it's any or it would be just black and white.
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Any debt or none?
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Any or none.
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That's the difference.
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You're in the red or the black.
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You got debt, can't get a job.
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The Washington Times article that Alex is talking about is actually about the...
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If you have people who hire things for positions in infrastructure critical roles, there's
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a database that they can check people who apply for those jobs on to see if they have
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any flags that come up.
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Right.
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So that's what they're talking about.
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Right, right, right.
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It's kind of a misrepresentation.
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Yeah.
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There are a lot of very important things that happen on this stretch of episodes.
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Okay.
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And we're about to be introduced to the first one here.
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This is out of WFF Huntsville, DeCator Shoals, covers three large towns in Alabama.
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And a veteran, no criminal record, was tired of the corruption, put a nice little small
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sign in his yard, didn't violate any zoning laws out in the country.
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And here, there's a picture of the sign on infoawards.com.
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We have a link to WFF and it's got photos and documents there.
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Our court system is a joke.
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That's all it said.
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And I have the judge's ruling here.
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He said, this is a direct disrespect and direct contempt of all the courts.
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Field divorce somewhere in this one.
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And then he ordered the county to arrest him immediately.
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And he was arrested and put in shackles in a four by six cell and left shackled in the
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form of torture.
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And the gentleman who we're going to get on the show said, you know what, I'm going to
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stay here forever.
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And there was such a public outcry, if it had been California knew that, it probably
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wouldn't have been, that the court apologized and released him.
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But see, this is what's scary.
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They and their power trip and their compulsive, aggressive, garbage, just that was their instinct.
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Arrest that man.
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Sure.
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Folks, that's England pre-Magna Carta.
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That's Nazi Germany.
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That's Russia.
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So Alex is playing a little fast and loose with some details on this story.
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Like he's not naming the person who put up the sign, which makes it more difficult if
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you're just listening to this to check up on it.
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What's the story here?
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I got bad vibes.
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So here's what's going on.
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Your instincts are pretty sharp.
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I just, you know, sometimes you just hear divorce and something.
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So this has to do with a fellow named Phillip Dean who had just gone through a particularly
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nasty divorce in which his ex wife got custody of their kids.
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So it is true that he posted a sign on his yard that said, quote, our court system is
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a joke.
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But what Alex fails to mention is that there were three other signs.
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Right, right, right, right.
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One said, quote, Judge Harrelson said my minor children, 13 and 15, need to be with her mother
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even though she let them smoke pot, take drugs, and run wild.
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It's a lot for a sign.
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All right, so this is a little bit like three billboards outside Epic, but you know, a little
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bit different.
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You know I don't know movies.
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OK, fair enough.
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The third said, quote, this tells my kids it's OK to do drugs.
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And the last, quote, we wonder why so many kids are on drugs.
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All right.
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OK.
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So the judge found out about these signs and considered them contempt of court.
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And he had a sheriff bring Phillip in where he was held for about 26 hours before appearing
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for the judge.
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Right.
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And being released.
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And he got an apology for the whole mess.
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I agree.
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The judge is a whiny little baby.
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You bet.
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And he can cram it up his butt.
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You bet.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You're a whiny little baby and you can cram it up your butt.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, this one is a whole big mess because on some very basic aspects, I agree with the
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underlying point that Alex is trying to make, which is that it's wrong that this guy got
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arrested for putting up a yard sign.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I just can't sign up for the way that Alex plays games with the information.
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Yeah.
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If you present the image that the guy was just a concerned citizen and put one sign
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up saying the courts are a joke, then he was arrested, it seems comically tyrannical.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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However, if you present the story with all its details, like how he was embroiled in
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a nasty divorce and custody battle, how there were four yard signs, one of which directly
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named the judge, you get a slightly different picture.
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Yep.
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If you consult the relevant information and read up on his later unsuccessful attempts
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to sue the officers who arrested him, you come away with the impression that Phillip
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Dean is kind of an asshole.
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Right.
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He sucks, but that does not mean that he should have been arrested for something that's more
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or less his free speech.
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Right.
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But for Alex, he needs to paint this guy as a blameless hero who's just sick of the corruption.
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He might be just like you, random InfoWars listeners, sick of the corruption to the point
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where he decided to take action by putting up a single innocent sign.
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Right.
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But the state was too threatened by this, that they had to illegally crush this dissent,
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small as it may have been.
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It's an oversimplification that I think hurts the audience's ability to engage with the
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story as it actually is in the real world.
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Yeah.
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Like the characters that you stand by because of principle, but who suck.
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Not everyone has to be a blameless hero in order for you to have their back.
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But I suspect that that nuance is difficult for Alex's brand of narrative to cope with.
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Yeah.
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Like you have to deal with this guy kind of sucks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Why?
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Why does he kind of suck?
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I mean, I think it's kind of fascinating that level of like small town dickery that Alex
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just won't really acknowledge is a serious issue.
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You know, like it has to be, it has to be part of the grand conspiracy.
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But you know what?
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Sometimes that guy's just a dick, you know, like I think everybody is so far involved
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in this story is an asshole.
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The judge is an asshole.
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The cop, why are you just doing what a judge tells you to do?
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That's asshole shit.
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The guy who put up signs, what are you doing putting up signs?
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You're an asshole.
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Like all of this is asshole shit.
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It's interesting to me too, because it is such small town as shit that like anybody
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driving by there would be like, Ooh, Phil got a bad divorce.
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Imagine you hearing basic details of the story could tell if you drove by and saw the sign
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and you'd be like, Ooh, that guy is divorced.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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That's rough.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There is that.
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So this will become a major focus of the next couple of days of Alex's show.
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Of course.
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Yup.
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So there's some other stories about police corruption and this one, I thought it revealed
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something very interesting.
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Alex is talking about, uh, some police officers in Miami that got charged and convicted with
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planting guns on people that they had shot in order to cover up bad shootings.
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And so here's how Alex discusses this.
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Okay.
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Miami cops found guilty in gun planting conspiracy, posing a chapter in the city's biggest police
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corruption scandal in decades, the sun Sentinel, a federal grand jury, federal jury, excuse
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me, convicted three Miami police officers Thursday of conspiring to cover up questionable
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shootings by lying about guns, planted near suspects, bodies, Lieutenant Israel, Izzy
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Gonzales, Sergeant Jose Pepe, that's his name, Plentario and officer Jorge nicknamed termite
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Garcia showed no emotion as the jury returned its verdict after days of contentious deliberations
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and a dismissed juror who disagreed with the majority said she was told by another juror,
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go back to Cuba.
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So they're, you know, I got, I guess, Oh, well that's my race.
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I can't convict them.
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Whoa.
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Wow.
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So these specific cops were pieces of shit and they planted evidence to justify things
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like a 1997 shooting of an unhoused person who the officer thought had a gun, but it
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turned out it was a Walkman.
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Sure.
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In order to cover that up, they planted a 45 caliber handgun on the guy.
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Makes sense.
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He could afford it.
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Yeah.
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But what I find more important is Alex is very clear racism at the end of that clip.
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In the course of the trial, a member of the jury who would go on to be dismissed, didn't
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agree with the majority of the jury and was told go back to Cuba.
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This is quite obviously an instance of the person saying that being racist towards this
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dismissed juror.
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Right.
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All the defendants of the case were Hispanic and you wouldn't say go back to Cuba unless
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you thought the person might be from Cuba.
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So it stands to reason that the juror was probably Hispanic as well.
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It would be insane.
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Yeah.
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So she may very well may have just not reached the point of being beyond reasonable doubt
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based on the evidence that was presented.
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But the racist comment that she was subjected to paints her disagreement as being based
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in an unwillingness to say any Hispanic person is guilty of anything.
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Yeah.
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Maybe she's a blue lives matter lady, you know.
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When Alex reads that someone said this to her, he doesn't think, wow, that's a shitty
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thing to say to someone who's clearly a US citizen since they're on a jury.
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Nope.
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Instead he takes on the thinking of the racist harasser and reports it to his audience that
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this is the mentality that that woman had, that she could never convict someone of her
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own race.
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It's about time somebody said what we're all thinking.
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That is quite simply Alex's racism popping out.
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Yep.
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He does a good job of not throwing around slurs, but if you pay attention to the framing
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around stories that deal with race or you notice these little throwaway moments, it's
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really clear.
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Yeah.
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The picture is full display.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If you're playing first person video games where you can jump into whose point of view
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is who, Alex is always in the point of view of the person who's like, racism's right.
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Yeah.
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I think it's a good call.
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I think you're playing this character.
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So Alex goes to calls.
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Sure.
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I will say that not a lot happens on the second.
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There's the expectation that the guy who put up that sign is going to show up, but he doesn't.
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That sucks.
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There's a little bit of treading water that goes on on the second, and so it leads to
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Alex taking some not very great phone calls.
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Heather in Colorado.
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Welcome to the airwaves.
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Yeah.
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Hi, Alex Jones.
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Yeah, I've been trying to get your documentaries and on DVD and I've been mailed to defective
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ones and I've been trying to call your customer service.
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Well, you've certainly heard everybody else that I want to go back.
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I want to go back.
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Found.
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There's about 200 hundred.
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I don't know.
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There's hundreds of different types of DVD players and in some of them, they don't work
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like I go to blockbuster video and I'd say one out of 20 DVDs like it doesn't work on
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my Sony player.
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You say you've been sent them repeatedly, so we are responding and sending it to you.
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Unfortunately, I can't handle customer service here, but we will send you a VHS or will refund
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your money if your DVD isn't working.
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Which would you like?
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I guess I'd just rather just take the VHS because the DVDs aren't working.
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Okay.
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Well, you say you had a problem once and we sent you another one.
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Yeah.
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So what I'm going to ask you to do, this is a byproduct of not a screen call and it's
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fine, but I just can't do it on the radio show.
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Is it fine?
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We can send you another one and that's good of us because that's good of you to get it,
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but now your DVD player doesn't read a DVD nine because it's almost three hours long.
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Some DVDs can't read it.
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We will send you a VHS and we put you on hold and get your number and I'll handle customer
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service during the break.
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This is quaint.
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Oh God.
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I like Alex's ability to deal with that.
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Sure.
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You know, like it's an inconvenience.
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This is not what the show is for.
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No, not supposed to be.
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But he's able to not blow up on her, which is pretty nice.
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It is.
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It's pretty unusual for him based on who we know him to be in the present.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That is just a different time back then.
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Yeah.
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You know, it was a different time.
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I do love the, first of all, the mysteriousness of DVD players, like this is the first Fast
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and Furious movie.
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Is there an exotic commodity?
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It is exciting.
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Do you want a VHS is not something I expected to hear today.
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But then I also love the repeated instance on getting her to acknowledge that we did
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send you another one.
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We did.
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We're good at this.
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We are.
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We're doing it.
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Our customer service is pretty great.
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We sent you two DVDs.
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That cost us $4 to burn.
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So this will be the first of two frustrating phone calls that Alex gets.
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Oh God no.
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But this one, this next call is actually on topic.
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Okay.
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Barney in Maryland.
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Go ahead.
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Alex, pertaining to the man arrested for or erected his sign, contempt the court may apply
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in a courtroom, but the first amendment applies everywhere else.
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He wasn't involved in the judges court, he just said our courts are a joke and the judge
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thinks that he, you know, everywhere in the county is God and you can't, you've got to
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lick his boots.
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He ought to be impeached for violating the Supreme law of the land, the first amendment.
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I agree.
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Thanks, Barney.
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So the judge in this case's actions were reviewed and he was advised to be more careful in the
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future but faced no formal punishment.
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Yeah, fuck that.
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Lawsuits filed by Philip have all failed on the merits in this case.
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Also you can tell by this conversation that these guys are having that they either don't
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know the facts of the case or they're just lying about it.
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Yeah.
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Alex is saying that he had nothing to do with this judge's court when in fact the judge
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had presided over his custody hearings and the judge's name was on Philip's, one of his
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signs.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Why would Alex want to obscure that information?
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Is it because of all that he, he doesn't know?
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Has he not read that deeply into paragraph three of any story about this?
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I think maybe that's the stuff you, you leave off.
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I think it might be.
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I think, I think because then the narrative, here's why it's not because it changes the
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hero or the villain here.
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It's because if you're listening from the point of view of an Alex Jones listener, circa
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early thousands, right?
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Then your point of view changes not from, Oh, this is government overreach to this judge
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is a whiny loser.
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He should have challenged that man to a fight.
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Fisticuffs would have solved these problems.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Put my name on a billboard.
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We fight.
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The name comes off or it stays on and then we know, you know, you're in trouble when
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a judge takes off his robe.
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Exactly.
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Judge walks up to you.
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If you, if you can't do that, then you fucking eat it because you get to wear the robe.
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I guess.
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I'm not sure exactly if that's why you would obscure those details, but that could be one
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of the reasons.
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There's possibilities there.
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So Alex gets another caller and if you think VHSs are quaint, let's talk to Bill in Oregon.
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Bill, you're on the air.
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Go ahead.
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Alex, first of all, I just want to say you're a damn good man and I appreciate you being
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here.
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Just do me a favor.
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We have a lot of children listening and I don't even want to use the most famous.
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I'm sorry.
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I apologize.
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No, it's not.
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We have a lot of homeschoolers.
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Go ahead.
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Alex scolded him.
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What the fuck?
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It's ridiculous.
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Every time I hear that, I'm like, what are we doing?
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What are we doing?
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What are we doing?
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Smash cut to the present day where Alex is screaming about demons pissing in your face.
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I am getting very furious with time.
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I don't like it.
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It passes and things change and I don't always like the difference between the two.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We're going back to a time is largely a progression of growth and a progression as opposed to
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a deterioration.
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Sure.
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And that's why it's frustrating because we were watching a deterioration of a person.
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Right.
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We're going back to a time when he was more capable and I mean, look, I think it's silly
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to scold people for saying damn on air or something like that, but at least it's in line with
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his puritanicalness.
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Yeah.
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He doesn't live up to it himself.
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No.
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No.
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No.
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Do as I say, not as I do, my friend.
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Look, if you have colors that you're like presiding over, you're kind of like a judge
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who can arrest someone for putting up a billboard.
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Well, you can just arbitrarily scold them for saying damn on your show.
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I mean, you could call it policing if you will.
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It's a, yeah.
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So Alex talks a little bit more about this Alabama billboard situation.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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All right.
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Your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.
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I wanted to recap this story because it's so outrageous.
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We can't just graze or glaze over this as they say.
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Wait, what?
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The AFF, and we even found some other articles on this, you can look through them all up
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to his ears and legal documents.
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Phillip Dean is fed up with the judicial system.
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That's the kind of court system we've got in Jackson County, Alabama, and I want everybody
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to know it, Dean says.
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So he put a sign this front lawn saying, quote, our court system is a joke.
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Little bitty.
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It looks like a political sign.
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It's like-
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Little bitty.
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Maybe you're going a little over the top here.
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Got a bunch of photos here.
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A message landing him behind bars.
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He's just not dealing with the facts of the story.
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No.
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You know?
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And it's glaring.
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It's so much funnier.
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Why not?
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Ugh.
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Well, because if you deal with the reality of the story that is somewhat funny, you don't
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get to use it the way that Alex does about like, hey, you're next person who speaks up
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against the globalist.
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Be scared.
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Give me money.
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Buy my books.
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You know, now I really think it is like, I don't want to go back in time and stop the
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show.
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I want to go back in time and make the show better.
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You know?
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Like if it was legit funny, if early on Alex was rewarded for being good at learning things
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or being funny or expressing talent in any way other than the ability to just fucking
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talk.
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Mm-hmm.
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Nah, it'd probably go the same way.
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Yeah, probably.
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So we get another caller.
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Yeah.
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And she's found a book.
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No.
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It's not good.
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This book is an arcane book full of mysteries and demons.
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Oh no.
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Damn it.
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Now let's go back to the calls.
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Go ask Alice.
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Amy in Texas.
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Go ahead.
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Hello?
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Anne, go ahead.
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Oh, hi.
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Anne.
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I am calling because I found a 1903 book from the Masons and there are four pictures in
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it for this illustration and one of them is a skeleton wearing a fez and everyone wearing
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a fez is stepping on its like people and there's these humans with whips and setters and there
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are people being decapitated, one is being panged, one is being sawed into and the people
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who are doing this are all wearing a fez.
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Yeah, the red little fez they wear at children's events symbolizes the murder of Christians
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by the Muslims.
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Whoa.
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Okay.
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That's extreme.
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Jordan is absolutely losing it.
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He's had to take off his glasses.
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They're all wearing a fez.
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All the skeletons all wearing a fez.
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I just, oh man, oh boy.
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Did you know the fez is a symbol of Muslims killing Christians?
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I aspire to whatever amount of knowledge you would enter the world with on a daily basis
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if you have to call Alice Jones and say, there are these skeletons with fezes on them, should
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I be concerned?
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This 1903 book that I found.
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Skeletons with fezes on them, eh?
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So Alex takes this information about the skeleton fez skeletons and then he transitions this
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into talking about, remember, we covered this on a 2004 episode a little bit ago when there
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was in Long Island, they had a Masonic Lodge initiation, the guy got shot and Alex made
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a big deal out of that.
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Oh, I recall.
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He brings that back into the conversation thanks to these fez wearing skeletons.
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Boy, I mean, I despise the impetus, but I'm glad to see it come back.
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He has a Rolodex.
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He's able to pull things out of Rolodex decently well at this point.
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Remember three weeks ago in Long Island, they blew the guy's head off in a Masonic ritual.
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That's a lot like a skeleton with a fez.
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And they found, it was New York Daily News, they found coffins.
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They're all wearing fezes.
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Black altars.
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Black altars and fezes.
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And they moved the guy off and claimed it was an accident and they let the guy go.
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That's fierce, these are not as threatening with fezes.
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$2,200 bail.
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That's how they get you.
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And then we found a track record of them accidentally blowing people's heads off in these rituals
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and it's always an accident when the Mason cops arrive.
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Very serious.
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Do they wear fezes?
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All nations are into this.
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It's the higher level ones and it's been taken over by the Illuminati according to George
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Washington.
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It wasn't always like this.
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What?
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George Washington went public against it.
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Wait.
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John Quincy Adams and others.
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Wait.
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John Quincy Adams is a higher level of this.
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They get in coffins.
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I'm not going to say the prayer on air, it's very blasphemous.
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They ask Lucifer, who they call God, to enter him.
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Hey, Satan.
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Love you, bud.
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To wage war against the cattle, the slaves, the profane.
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The neophytes.
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Yeah, the picture is full of dragons and demons and...
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Are you talking with me, lady?
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They, for hours, just continually chant, Lucifer, enter me, Lucifer, enter me.
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What about the dragons?
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What are we doing here, folks?
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This is what our Christian...
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Most of our Christian conservative leaders are part of this and this is very Christian
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and I'm against it because I'm against it.
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Well, anyway, I wanted to tell you about the pictures because they were very shocking.
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They're shocking.
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Skeletons of Fez.
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Ah, wow.
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Dragons without fezes.
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That was a ride.
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Sure.
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That was a ride.
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Sure.
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And it's not over.
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I had a great time, but I'm excited to see where it goes from here.
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We have a sort of a denouement of the call.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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What book is this particular that you have?
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Oh, God.
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It's called The History of the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine.
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It was written in 1903 and a letter in the front is from, they'll call themselves nobles.
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Anyway, nobles...
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Yeah, do me a favor.
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Will you Xerox copy in color the cover and then the inside pages and mail that to me?
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The cover, the published date, and those pictures because this is for folks that just join us
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and think I make stuff up.
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You notice I said that this is the Arabic branch, but this is white guys.
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It's nothing to do with Arabs.
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This is the Arabic branch of the higher rights and you notice I said that and then you just
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said the Arabic order.
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Yes, I'll get that to you today.
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Yeah, please, please do.
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Thank you.
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And that's the slaughter of the Christians celebrating.
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Oh, how they love it when they come to the schools to register your children with the
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face scans and thumb scans and they smile with a little red hat and say, hi, we're your
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friends.
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Give us your firearms.
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Soon we'll be in total control.
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We are almost in total control of you.
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That's what they're really like.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Hope that scares you because you should be concerned.
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I'm not scared.
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No amount of voices are going to make me scared of the fucking Shriners.
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That's who he's talking about.
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I know.
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Furthermore, this woman called you because skeletons were wearing fezzes in a book.
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She doesn't need help being scared.
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She doesn't need your assistance.
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That book has like a sort of ominous name, but it's just like history of the Shriners,
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which explains the fezzes.
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They all wear fezzes.
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It was a cute impression that Alex did, but in the real world, the biggest impact they
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have is opening children's hospitals and driving around in funny cars that are too small.
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See you at the age of nine.
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Yeah.
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I'll see you if you'd need your tonsils out.
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What are you doing?
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Oh, Christ.
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So we have one last caller from this April 2nd show, and this one's a bit confrontational.
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My printer doesn't work.
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No.
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No.
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It's not another customer service call.
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Okay.
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All right.
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It's a bit confrontational about Alex and what he does and does not do.
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Okay.
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Andy, good to talk to you.
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You're on the air.
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Hello?
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Andrew, whatever your name is.
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It's Andrew.
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Hey, Alex.
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Good to talk to you, man.
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Been supporting you for a couple of years now.
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You do excellent work.
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I do have a couple of bones to pick with you, though, and I'll help you give me a couple
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of minutes to speak about it.
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Basically, a bunch of my friends and I have been supporting you for a couple of years
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now, and we drove up to San Francisco just this last weekend for the international inquiry
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about 9-11.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Good.
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And kind of feel like you dropped the ball a little bit, man.
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Dropped the ball?
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We're not showing up for the inquiry.
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That was the general consensus we got from speaking with a lot of the people there.
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Yeah.
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It was a very powerful...
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A lot of people running around trashing me, huh?
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No, no.
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Actually, a lot of people supporting you, selling your videos and books, and it was
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really...
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Oh, really?
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Sell them my videos.
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Yeah.
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It was a really good event, actually.
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It was very, very powerful.
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I don't like where this is going.
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I think the lawyer representing Ella Mariani, I met him at 4 o'clock in the morning at a
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diner, actually, and he was pretty bummed that you weren't there as well.
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That's when the conference starts.
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Did you call Andreas von Bulow there?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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You know what?
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I called them and said, are you going?
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They said they weren't going.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Did you hear the shout-outs going down on there?
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See, that's the thing.
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Actually, that was one of the buns I had to take.
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Did you fucking call Andreas von Bulow?
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You want to know the truth?
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I've been listening to you for a long time, and a couple of months leading up to the inquiry,
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you were scheduled to be there, and I never once heard you on-air mention, even, that
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I don't want to get into a big thing over this, but I'm not going to sit there and attack
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people to put this on.
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No, no, absolutely.
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Let me just say this.
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Go for it.
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Let me just say this.
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You don't normally get invited to something by learning your names on a list.
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Now, that's the end of the discussion.
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You have anything else to talk about?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Can I hold through to the commercial break?
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What do you want to talk about?
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I just want to talk about peak oil and some other things.
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Yeah, we can talk about that imaginary peak oil situation when we get back.
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Oof.
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Oof, oof, oof.
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Not so pleasant.
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Oh, man.
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So, there was a... They did this a couple of times with COVID, too, and you see this
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happen periodically as the conspiracy theorists get together and have a mock trial.
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Sure.
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You know, they did one with Obama, the citizens' impeachment.
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Oh, they've got... That's what the thing was?
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Yeah.
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It was a mock trial.
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Oh, my God.
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It was a mock government proceeding about 9-11, and Alex was, I guess, advertised that
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he was going to be on it or something.
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But here's the thing I don't quite understand about that.
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When he says you don't find out that you're booked to be on something because you find
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out you're on a list, this implies to me one of two things.
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It can either be that you're on the list of attendees, and that's how you find out, or
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if you're on a government list and you got on it because of being invited to be on this
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thing, which would imply that the people who are running it are feds.
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I don't know which he's trying to imply, but it could be either or both.
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I got the vision.
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Imagine you're looking at the Lollapalooza poster, and you're like, my band's on there.
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That's the way I got that.
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I would never call that a list.
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Yeah, that's fair, but that's the... I would call it the lineup or something.
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I suppose that's why... Yeah, that's where my mind goes, is that's the only thing that
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makes sense to me.
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Otherwise, if it's on a list, that sounds like a crazy person.
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Like a no-fly list or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That sounds like a lunatic.
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Well, Alex is also a little nuts.
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That is a fair point.
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And it's a citizen's international inquiry into 9-11.
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That's what I'm saying.
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That's why it makes sense to me for him to find out that... That's what makes sense
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to me, is that they're having a stupid mock trial or thing, and they're like, oh, Alex
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is going to be there, and he's like, I just found out about this when you screamed at
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me.
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He agreed to do it and forgot or something.
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That is also entirely plausible.
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I don't know.
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I don't know exactly what the deal is, but it's nice to hear somebody give Alex the business
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in a very light way.
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Is there a way we can make all of them just go back to making their fun mock trials?
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No, they were doing it during COVID, and it was awful.
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Oh, I know.
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So they're still doing it.
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Oh, God.
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No, we need to get them to go back to being scared of skeletons wearing hats.
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We do.
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We do.
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Maybe that's our problem.
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Maybe we have not weaponized pictures of skeletons wearing pheasants.
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We should all be carrying them around.
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Fucking guns don't need them.
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They're terrified of pictures of skeletons and pheasants.
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Forget about maga, maswa.
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Make America scared of skeletons wearing hats.
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Make America scared of skeletons, yeah.
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It's not perfect.
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Then it could be a little bit of proof.
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And I think it would have to be masaswa, because you need the O in there, too.
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Ah, I think it's got to be two syllables or we're out.
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So we have the weekend, and Alex has simmered, and now we're back on the 5th, on Monday.
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Has that VHS been sent?
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Probably.
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We have no confirmation one way or another.
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All right, fine.
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We can confirm for you if the guy who made the billboards is going to show up on this
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episode.
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OK.
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All right.
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Very good news.
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So that will be paid off.
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OK.
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But first, Alex has another guest that he's teasing.
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OK.
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All right, my friends.
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Here we are live.
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It is another week spanning out before us.
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It's Monday, the 5th day of April, 2004.
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I'm Alex Jones, your host.
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The website's freshly updated.
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OurPrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
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We have a huge show coming up today.
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In 30 minutes, the Grammy Award-winning, I guess you'd call it Caribbean-style jazz band,
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whatever, I mean, pretty mild stuff, is going to be joining us.
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They're, again, Grammy Award-winning.
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They didn't touch the police, did absolutely nothing, so they were attacked locally downtown
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and are being charged with felony crimes.
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What is about to happen?
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That was all caught on video.
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They will now charge you with resisting arrest if you don't answer their questions.
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We even have Supreme Court rulings that don't show respect to King Herod or Caesar.
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Sure.
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You're in trouble.
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Interesting thing for the Supreme Court to say.
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So that's coming up.
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That's coming up.
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Yeah.
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Say who?
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What band?
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You don't know.
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What band?
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I'll never tell.
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Is it 311?
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Is it 311?
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It's gotta be 311.
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It's not Nick Hexum.
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OK.
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I can't remember any of the other members.
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Are you sure it's not 311?
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It's not 311.
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Do you remember Oza Motley?
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Yeah.
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Do you remember Oza Motley?
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Do not remember them.
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Sort of a Afro-Latin, there's a little funk going on.
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They're very, they have a lot of different genre explorations.
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Wow, apparently their genre is mild.
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No, I would actually describe them as quite not mild.
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They're fairly political in messaging.
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They did a fair amount of, I mostly know them because they did some work with Charlie Tuna
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from J5.
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Alright.
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And so that's how I ended up becoming aware of them.
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I think I did some stuff with some other rappers, too, that was pretty interesting, like instrumentation
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along with rap.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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See, I don't know, I found, I don't know a whole lot about Oza Motley, but I always had
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a positive impression of them.
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Yeah, alright.
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Turns out they've been on in fours.
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Yeah.
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Alright.
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Yep.
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OK.
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Sure, why not?
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So have we talked about Oza Motley at all?
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No, we have not.
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OK, because Alex has mentioned this incident a couple times.
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OK.
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And I was kind of thinking, like, well, this has gotta be going somewhere, and it turns
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out where it was going is Oza Motley being on the show.
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I did not see that coming.
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Yeah.
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So here's what happened.
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The situation.
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It's a huge mess, and technically no one was really fully in the right.
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Sure.
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So the band was in Austin for South by Southwest, and on March 18th of this year, they were
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playing on Sixth Street.
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Quite innocently and in good fun, a couple members of the band decided to end the show
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at 2.30 in the morning with a conga line out into the streets, which is a violation of
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the noise ordinances in Austin.
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Sure.
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They were able to make a bunch of noise on the streets, but effectively, being a band
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with instruments like a drum and leading what amounts to an impromptu parade, that's a little
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bit beyond the line.
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What you gonna say?
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Cops are gonna...
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Hey!
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It is what it is.
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So an officer tried to step in and tell them to calm it down, and in the process, their
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drummer, Jiro Yamaguchi, inadvertently hit a cop with a drum.
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All right.
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Well, that's not gonna go well.
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He was trying to, like, turn it around.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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No, no, no.
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It's very inconvenient to carry.
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It was a fucking Three Stooges of Star...
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Yeah, it begins.
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So this turned into a nasty situation pretty quick, and three Ozamatli members got arrested.
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Sure.
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Yamaguchi for assaulting an officer, and their bassist and manager for failure to obey a
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lawful order and interfering with police duties, respectively.
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And then cut to the cat that accidentally scratched the drummer's paw, foot, and then
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made the whole thing smile.
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You think the drummer has a paw?
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I think so.
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Okay.
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I do now, because it's a Muppet drummer.
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So there were a ton of people recording, because this was on Sixth Street.
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Sure.
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And I do now want to ask you how many members of the Electric Mayhem you can own.
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I can't do anything.
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You can't?
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I don't think so.
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Lou Zealand.
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Dr. Teeth.
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I can't do it.
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Animal.
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Not under pressure.
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Okay.
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So it's on Sixth Street during South by Southwest, so there's a bunch of people with cameras
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around.
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So the reality of the situation came out pretty fast, particularly that the police acted inappropriately
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and that Yamaguchi wasn't trying to hit the cop with his drum.
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All parties reached a compromise where the band members pled no contest to lower-level
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misdemeanors and everybody went on with their lives, saving complete embarrassment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Everybody going like, ah, I wish none of us had done any of this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that pleading down and compromising to a no contest thing, that wouldn't happen until
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July.
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So this episode from April is right in that sweet spot where it looks like the members
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could be facing felonies.
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Sure.
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Even in April, it wasn't a really likely scenario, given the copious amount of evidence on Oza
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Motley's side.
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But it's really good optics for Alex to exploit, and it's a fairly famous band who will agree
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to come on his show.
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Yeah.
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And so that's big.
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I think, yeah, no, it's a good decision all around on everybody's part, because they should
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be putting public pressure onto the fucking cops, for sure.
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And I think it was in 2000, I think that year is correct, I know it's before this, they
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had played at the DNC.
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So they had a profile, they're fairly obscure in maybe some of the mainstreamer circles,
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but they're not a small band.
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And so the idea of them being on Infowars is pretty silly, but this incident, and especially
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it happening in Austin, really is just in that sweet spot.
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So we're not actually going to listen to much of their interview when it does happen, because
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it's kind of not that interesting.
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Just the fact that it happened is more interesting.
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The story happened, but there's really not much to say other than, again, I wish nobody
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had done any of that.
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It's almost like them saying, well, we've performed in Austin before and done a conga
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line before.
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It's like, yeah, you had every reason to think it would be okay, and then we shouldn't be
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getting facing felonies, and then, yeah, you shouldn't be, and then you end up not eventually.
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So it's kind of like, meh.
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No, it should be, I mean, it's like, literally, here's the interview, a reasonable person
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goes, hey, everybody, we're not doing anything any further, just stop.
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And then we move forward.
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And we're not going to listen to much of that interview, because there are very, very
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serious issues.
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Okay.
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Mike Dowd for this.
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Oh, no.
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And remember the story Friday, out of Alabama, in their local newspapers and television stations
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reporting that a man put a sign up in his yard saying that our court system is a joke,
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and proving that point, the local judge had him arrested and said, this respected government
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is illegal.
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Came out and said, you're not allowed to criticize us, this is what they think.
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Sounds unbelievable, but it's actually happening.
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And then we got a call Friday from a listener claiming that in Oregon, he saw a local news
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story, and I had seen a blurb about it, that a man saved a homeless chicken that lived
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on the street in front of a grocery store, and so he got a vicious SWAT team raid and
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was beat up and is now being charged himself with very serious crimes.
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Again, this is not April Fools.
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It's April 5th, ladies and gentlemen.
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We didn't do April Fools on April 1st.
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This is real news.
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This is really happening.
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This is the insanity of government.
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So this didn't really happen.
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Can a man not take in a homeless chicken?
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Can a man not do that in America?
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So this is, okay.
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Details are a little bit off here.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So this is about a guy named Nicholas Gombos.
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He went to a local grocery store called Ray's Food Place and noticed that they had a chicken
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in a coop.
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He decided that the chicken was sad and being mistreated and that he should take that chicken
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home.
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However, that chicken was a beloved mascot of Ray's Food Place named Speckles.
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It was named Speckles.
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It was.
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Oh, the man stole Speckles.
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Yep.
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He probably wasn't a malicious person in this act, maybe just delusional, because after
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he stole Speckles, he bought a hen and a rooster so that none of the birds would be lonely.
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At some point, it became known that he was the one who had taken the chicken, so the
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police contacted him and asked him to give Speckles back, which he refused to do.
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Of course.
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Things turned a little bit ugly when the police came to his house and wanted to retrieve this
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stolen chicken and he threatened them, which led to him going to jail for theft as well
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as threatening officers.
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He didn't get SWAT teamed and the police didn't beat him up.
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That's all just exaggerations Alex is adding to the story to excite the listeners.
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There's a really dark kind of end to this story.
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Of course there is.
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So in May, after Speckles was returned to Ray's, someone showed up and killed him in
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the night, leaving-
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Speckles?
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Yes.
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Why?
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I don't know.
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The guy killed Speckles because if he can't have Speckles, no one can?
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No, I understand why that's a fun story for you to connect dots, but it wasn't him.
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This person killed the chicken in the night, left him in the sidewalk to be discovered
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in the morning.
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Eventually, an 18-year-old from a neighboring town admitted to doing it, thinking that the
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chicken was injured and needed to be put out of its misery, or more likely, I mean, if
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I just had to suspect, he was a fucked up kid.
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I mean, what is going on with the people around this fucking grocery store?
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This is something in the water issue.
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Why is this man trying to steal a chicken that's outside of a grocery store?
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I don't care how you feel about this chicken.
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There's a lot of Speckles drama.
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Man, that is-
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The stakes on these episodes though.
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He just-
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Guy with, divorced guy with a billboard, guy who's stealing a chicken.
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I want to go back, Dan.
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Yep.
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I want to go back.
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Yep.
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Ugh.
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So, anyway.
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So this guy decided-
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And now the guy who steals chickens is going to be the president, that's what it's going
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to be.
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So this guy decided to kidnap a mascot chicken from a grocery store because he thought he
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could raise it better.
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It's being reported by Alex as a case where the government just oppressed a good Samaritan
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who wanted to help out a chicken experiencing homelessness.
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This is what we call the Info Wars filter, where a real life story gets turned into complete
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bullshit designed to make the audience feel like they're under attack.
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What if you just thought you could help this chicken out?
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What about you'd get raided by the SWAT team and they'd all beat you up?
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Yeah.
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It's nonsense.
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I find- here's something that I find interesting.
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In the past.
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It feels like when we go deep into stories in the past, the story is always far more
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interesting than the bullshit that Alex makes up.
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Generally.
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In the present though, because he doesn't get those cool stories and he just goes off
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headlines from like regular mainstream media, we don't get to find out the interesting,
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all of a sudden this weird divorced guy story.
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Well because at this point Alex is getting his news from like-
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From weirdos who are divorced!
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Or weird aggregators of stories, you know like there was Fark that was like, they had
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the headline aggregator that you could like- Alex is getting stuff from sites like that.
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And so some of them are fucking weird nonsense stories, but then also there is a bias that
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we have.
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Sure.
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Because these stories are so far in the past, we know how they end.
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Yeah.
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And so you can see the totality of it, whereas in the present you're just like, well, here's
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what's happened so far.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dead internet theory has some very coincidental aspects to it, but man, sometimes whenever
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you think about like- When the internet dies, it'll turn into a
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skeleton.
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Yeah.
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With a fez.
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Exactly.
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We're gonna cut it in half while we wear fezes.
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Sounds good.
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So there's another news story that Alex has on this episode that kind of blew my mind.
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Okay.
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We'll be getting into that.
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Also, a new mainstream article about how the US got Canada into World War II.
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A lot of evidence shows, according to Canadian papers, that the US government shelled a lighthouse
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to blame it on the Germans.
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And I'm not defending the Nazis here.
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I'm just giving you an historical example- I'm not defending the Nazis?
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The problem reaction solution.
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Folks, I rarely see this big of an overload of key stories.
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I'm gonna try to just news blitz through all of it.
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So Canada was in World War II well before the United States was.
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I was gonna say- They entered the war in September 1939, a
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good two years before Pearl Harbor, which Alex also thinks is a false flag that the
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globalist pulled to get the country into war.
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Now, I know that I hear Alex saying that he's not into the Nazis, but man, he sure seems
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to think that everybody who fought them was tricked into doing it.
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Yeah.
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That's strange.
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I just wanna- I just feel like at the time, Canada was closer to England.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, they were real tight.
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Well, yeah.
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You know?
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They had some years previous- Sure.
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They weren't under the king.
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Yeah.
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And they had made it very clear the parliament would make their decisions.
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They were not necessarily- We don't do what you tell us to do.
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They weren't necessarily just gonna follow the UK into any war.
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Sure.
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But in that case, they decided that it was worth, you know, rallying around.
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And also, we will make sure that ceremonial and nothing happens unless you sign off on
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it.
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Sure.
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And, ironically, the prime minister back then was named king, which makes it very confusing
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to read articles.
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Very, very frustrating.
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Very frustrating.
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Even though the monarch was a queen?
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No, wait.
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Oh, man.
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Elizabeth wasn't queen in 1939, was she?
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You know, sometimes I feel like, sure, it's not fair, and sure, it's arbitrary, but no,
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you can't have this job because your name is king.
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Like that.
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I understand that maybe he's the best person for the job, but do you know who else is good
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at the job?
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The second best person, and their name is not king.
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Prince.
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Done.
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See?
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Thank God.
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I thought I was imagining things.
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Elizabeth came into power in 52.
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Yeah.
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I was like, is it possible that she was queen in 39?
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No, no.
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I believe it.
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Which one?
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Well, she was there forever.
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Well, sure, but she wasn't the real queen.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Was there a shadow queen?
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Of course.
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Oh, man.
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We'll talk about that later, because now, we have to hear about what happened to Oza
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Motley.
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Yes, we do.
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Oza Motley, the Grammy Award winning band, and it's not some heavy metal band, it's not
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Janet Jackson, it's...
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One nipple on TV, and the world went fucking insane.
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Band music and Caribbean music, I mean, I'm not the connoisseur of music, but just a tame
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band, never been in trouble, never had any problems, and the fire marshal came in and
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said, during South by Southwest a few weeks ago, you need to get a lot of these people
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out of the building.
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Will you help us?
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And they said, sure, we'll do a moranga, you know, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
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I'm sorry, that's the story we're going with?
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To downtown, where they had all the streets shut down, I mean, it's a big party down there,
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and then the black ski mask guardians that take good care of us ran up and said, get
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back in the club, they said, okay, tried to turn around, and had the police behind them
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yelling at them, and one of the band members had his big drum up above his head, because
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that's how you get through a crowd, and he's trying to carry it, and the police thought
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that that was threatening, and ran in, and jumped on him, and then they fell over, and
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this is the new America, they assault you on video.
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I mean, that'd be like watching a pro football game, and somebody sticks the quarterback
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after the ball's not in play, and you watch the linebacker break the ribs of the quarterback,
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blood sprays from the quarterback's mouth, and then the police come and arrest the quarterback,
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and say, you devil, you assaulted them.
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Here, I'll use the sports analogy.
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This is not a good analogy.
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But it's a sports one.
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That is true.
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You're from sports.
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I am from sports.
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You should appreciate it.
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Well, it's a different sport.
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There's a lot of the story right here, but he's fudging a few details in order to make
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it work better for his oppression-obsessed audience.
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First of all, I can find no indication that the fire marshal told Ozamatli to help get
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people out of the Exodus Club, which is the name of the bar they're playing at.
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They would likely never be put in that situation, since bars have staff that handles that kind
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of thing, and they would never need to rely on a band like pied piper-ing the crowd out
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of the building.
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That's nuts.
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Also, in an interview they did with Pitch KC, they said, quote, we always end an Ozo
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show with a conga line.
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And we had gone outside with it when we'd played Austin before, so we didn't know that
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it would be a problem.
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Right.
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So that's kind of part of their thing.
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But Alex has the instinct to heighten stories, to increase the level of fuckery going on.
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It's not enough that the police outside told them to stop it.
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They needed to only have gone outside because some other agent of the state had told them
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they needed to.
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This way, Alex can create the impression of a trap being set by the state, where they
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get you to do something with one hand and then punish you for doing it with the other.
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The other thing Alex is misrepresenting is the issue with the drummer.
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He did hit an officer with his drum, but it was totally an accident.
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Alex is pretending this isn't the case because it makes it easier for him to sell his story
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when the party you're supposed to be pulling for didn't even do the thing that they're
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accused of.
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Sure.
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It's really easy to side with Ozo Motley and see this as an instance of overzealous police
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response without rewriting any of the story, and yet Alex does just that.
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There's a couple of reasons he does this.
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The first is just narrative simplicity.
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He wants to make this super easy for the audience to get on board with and not have pesky questions
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in their head like, why would they do a conga line out into the streets at 2.30 in the morning?
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There's a good, interesting question.
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To sidestep any of the possible audience response like that, Alex includes the preemptive answer
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in the form of the story about the fire marshal imploring them to do the conga line.
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The other reason is that Alex isn't up to the task of arguing a sticky point.
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If it's possible that the members of the band made some mistakes themselves, it's so
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much harder for Alex to make his argument because he's lazy.
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They have to have done nothing wrong and the state oppressed them anyway.
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That's just how evil the state is.
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It's the same instinct that drives him to not mention the other signs that that guy
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had up in his yard and the fact that he had a pre-existing relationship with the judge.
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You just make a saint out of one party.
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Yeah.
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It's really a shame, too, because these are instances where you can address and deal with
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reality and still end up with similar conclusions to where Alex gets.
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These are places where there's a theoretical possibility to find common ground with Alex,
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but I can't.
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Even if I agree with much of the conclusion that he comes to, the way he got there isn't
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grounded in reality.
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That's a formula for getting off track, and I'm not going to side with it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It is like this.
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You think, oh, Alex is at my rally.
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Alex is hanging out with me.
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We're all together on this side, not doing that thing, but then the longer you're around
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Alex, the more you're in a Nazi rally, and you're like, I didn't even mean to be here.
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I was just talking about the thing, and that's kind of how it works, I think.
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It's a process issue.
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You can use the wrong equation and get the right answer sometimes, but it's unreliable,
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and I resent it.
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It is fascinating that when you look at these things from 2004, it is more common that we
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come up with a, well, yeah, I mean, Alex is saying that it's wrong that they arrested
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these members of Oza Motley, and like, yep, that's true.
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It's wrong that they arrested this guy who had the sign up in his yard.
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That's true.
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Still got fundamental disagreements with the way that Alex is covering these stories.
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Sure.
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Well, I think ultimately, Alex is anti-government in a situation where, yeah, the government's
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wrong, but now it seems like he's anti-government, but only because the government isn't doing
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things that are evil.
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You mean in the present day?
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Yeah.
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Yep, there's some of that.
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Yeah.
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So we have another story from the world.
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By the way, in England, ID cards to be compulsory by 08, Tony Blair says after the latest bombs
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they supposedly found and saved everybody from, the same British government that's been
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caught blowing up their own buildings, the same British government that's been caught
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running a fake Ryerson scare last year.
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Everyone in Britain can be forced to have identity cards within five years under a fast
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track plan by David Blunkett, which is backed by Tony Blair, and gaining support within
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the cabinet.
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And it says that the public is very angry, they say this is Nazi Germany, big brother.
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Sure.
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But you see, in England they're more honest about it.
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You're going to have a national ID card.
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So national IDs became available for citizens to voluntarily acquire after the passage of
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the Identity Cards Act of 2006.
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It wasn't popular, and only about 15,000 of the 60-something million UK citizens applied
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for one, and then the whole thing was scrapped in 2011.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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If it was like an evil authoritarian power grab, they fucked up every step of the plan.
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That was the worst power grab.
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It was.
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It was a power shit.
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It was a power throwaway, I guess.
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I don't know.
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You know, Alex has this fantasy of like every time you cede some sort of authority, you'll
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never get it back.
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Well, they introduced these ID cards, and then they just scrapped it in 2011.
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I just find the specific examples in the world, a lot of times, you know, vaccine passports
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and other examples of that.
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Like a lot of countries adopted them, they don't use them anymore.
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No.
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It's just sometimes people just not do stuff.
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I want to get back to the lighthouse thing.
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Oh, okay.
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Wait, wait.
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Why?
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Because.
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Because.
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You're talking about Canada.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because the more I thought about it, the more I think, how awful would you feel if that
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story was true, not because of the America doing the thing, but because it took a lighthouse?
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That's what it took?
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To get into World War II, you were like, oh, well, now that they've hit this lighthouse,
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now it's time to get involved.
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Let me assure you it's not true.
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And also, it wasn't done to blame the Germans, because it was on the west coast of...
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It was on Japan.
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It was to blame the Japan.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, Alex is all over the place.
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Yeah, yeah, no.
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It makes sense.
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But don't worry about it.
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Okay.
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But I'm just saying that it suddenly hit me like that's the saddest thing I could think
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of.
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It was like, oh, well, great.
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Now that they've hit this lighthouse.
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It's a pretty cool lighthouse.
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I bet it would be a great lighthouse.
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I've seen pictures of it.
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And it is actually strategically important in terms of some trade routes and stuff.
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Sure.
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No, 100%.
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I agree.
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But yeah, we'll talk about it right at the end of this episode when Alex gets back to
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the story.
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Okay.
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I thought we were done with it, and now I was getting back to it.
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No, he brings it back up at the end.
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Right at the end.
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All right.
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But now I've spoiled that.
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The instincts.
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Yep.
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So the board op here accidentally...
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This is the only thing that I'm going to play from the Ozamont League interview.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's because it's kind of funny.
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Okay.
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And the board op makes a little mistake.
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A few weeks ago, we had this big thing called South by Southwest like that for about a decade
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here, and hundreds of rock bands come in, other types of musicians.
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Indicated radio interview right now.
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Wake up!
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You know what, George, I think you put our guest on air while she's trying to get one
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of the other band members on, but that's okay.
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This is a lot of fun.
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It is fun.
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Taking a little nap before they go on the radio.
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Yeah.
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Or just not up yet.
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Yeah.
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They're rocking rollers.
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Yeah!
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So their manager was trying to wake them up to go do the interview.
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That's fun.
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I like that.
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Good times.
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That's good band stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, for sure.
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It's charming.
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Yeah.
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So no need to really talk about that interview, because like I said, it's boring.
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It all worked out in the end, too.
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But there's another interview.
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Okay.
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Which is...
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Divorced.
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Still bored, man.
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There we go.
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Bringing up our guest, Phillip Dean.
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Phillip, good to have you on the show.
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Yeah!
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Hello.
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Welcome.
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Tell us a little bit about yourself and why you put the sign up and what happened.
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Well, I live in Jackson County, Alabama, I'm a logging contractor, self-employed, and I
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went through a bad divorce, and the mother was letting the children run wild and take
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drugs and into all kinds of trouble, so I took her back to court on June 23rd of last
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year to try to seek custody of my two daughters.
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I have three kids, but I have custody of my son.
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Okay.
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So I went back to court and I hired an attorney that wasn't no good, and he never got it into
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court, so I had to get another attorney, paid another attorney, supposed to have been the
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best attorney in Scotchburg.
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We go to court, my ex-wife shows up without an attorney, and the judge gives the kids
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back to her.
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Damn!
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Tough.
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Boy, the details of that story, I bet, are so sad.
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Scotchburg!
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If you really dug in there, you would get real sad.
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I would assume so.
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He does say repeatedly that the kids run wild, and that the mind reels at what that could
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possibly mean.
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Yeah, there's no part of that dad story that doesn't need him to be like, we're going to
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put you in counseling, we're going to get you some people, we're going to figure out.
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You know what's fun?
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Just doing anything.
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You can do anything in that little thing.
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Do you like crafts?
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Yeah, we can do that.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has asked Dean to tell his story, and naturally for him, that story begins with
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his ugly divorce and messy custody battle.
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That's the inciting incident for the whole sign thing, so it's natural for him to bring
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that up.
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That's also the case in pretty much every article about Dean getting arrested over the
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sign.
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The beginning of the incident is a custody hearing, because without that event, he never
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would have put that sign up in the first place.
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But on InfoWars, this is the first that we're hearing of it.
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It does seem strange.
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And Alex is telling of the story, this is just supposed to be a guy with a political
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message to get out and a judge with no connection to him punishing him for daring to criticize
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the state.
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Because I know the story, when I hear Dean get into this, I'm not surprised.
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But if I were an average InfoWars listener, I might be confused as to why this brave patriot
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is starting off his story complaining about custody hearings.
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It doesn't seem on message or on point, because the point has been obscured.
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Yeah, it is one of the things where we do consistently see him running up against people
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who do not know what the game is in the past.
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He has a lot of guests on who are suddenly surprised to be like, wait, wait, wait, you
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didn't want me to say the thing that you...
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I don't think that Alex doesn't want him to say it.
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I mean, they're freely talking about this at this point, because once the guy is on
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the show, there's no real denying that this is the reality of the situation.
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But as long as Alex was laying the groundwork of this storyline, he's not giving the audience
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a window in until it's forced in by the subject of the story itself.
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Yeah.
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I mean, does he tell us what he wants?
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He wants his kids.
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Oh, that's no good.
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Right.
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But he also wants maybe to put up more signs.
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I don't know.
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That's probably not good either.
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I don't think that's going to resolve the scenario.
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I think that might just escalate things.
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But he did put up more signs, just than the one that Alex has mentioned.
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Right.
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Are we going to get into that?
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Yeah.
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I don't think that Alex asks him about the other signs, because Alex doesn't mention
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the other signs.
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He hasn't told us anything at all about it.
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He just said there was a small sign.
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Our county court system is a joke.
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Yeah.
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Barely said anything.
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I had a similar sign that says Judge Harrelson said, my minor children, age 13 and 15, need
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to be with their mother, even though she let some smoke bot take drugs and run wild.
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Tighten it up.
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Okay.
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So now instead of civilly going after you or something else, he believes he's God, and
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he has to take your property, no zoning violation.
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You're on a county road, 107, out in the country, and these are little signs.
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You stick them in your yard, but they don't come up with some little technicality to try
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to get you.
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They just take your signs, take your property, in America, something our veterans have fought
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and died for.
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I honestly...
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Oh, come on now.
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It's a little much.
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I would suggest that I would fine him or have the sign taken down because it's so long.
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That could cause an accident.
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Someone reading the ages of his kids, their mother is letting them run wild.
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Judge Harrelson, oh no, shut up, fuck.
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If that's next to a blind turn, you will kill people.
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It's too slow.
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Caution.
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Slow readers are available.
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Caution.
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Long sign coming up.
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Yeah, you need a sign to warn people about the sign.
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Yeah.
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Now that is a compromise I will accept.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Definitely.
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You should be allowed to say what you want by a sign.
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If the judge was just, tighten it up, that sign's unwieldy, or something like that, then
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this whole thing is resolved.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, not infringing on your free speech, but that's a mess.
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Yeah, I'm not going to judge you, I'm going to give you some feedback.
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How about that?
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Now I'm giving you feedback from the bench.
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No, no, I mean it's a little bit of a different spot.
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Just because I'm a judge doesn't mean I can't be an editor.
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Tighten it up.
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Hey, tighten it up.
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So, um, the judge, he's God.
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Sure.
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He's God of the county.
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Right.
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Now obviously the judge was in a delusional power trip state when he said 30 days, but
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then he changed his mind and claims he apologized.
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Number one, is that true?
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Number two, why do you think he finally woke up that he was engaging in Soviet-style behavior?
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Well, he's the God of Jackson County.
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I'm glad you said that.
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First off...
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He is the God.
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He is the God.
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He is the principality.
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First off, he put me in jail.
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My sister got on the phone and she talked to just about every attorney in Scotchboro.
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They said, no way, no way will we touch this case.
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You've always got to bring in a lawyer or be family friends with them or family.
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That's the type I've got.
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Yeah.
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Not anymore.
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By the way, with my lawyers, they walk in and devastate everything because they're not
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part of the system.
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Go ahead.
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All these lawyers told my sister, not no, but hell no.
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One of the attorneys I was friends with in Scotchboro that I've known for a long time,
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he called my sister back on the phone and told her, said, I didn't tell you this, but
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you need to get out of Scotchboro and get your brother a lawyer because everyone in
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Scotchboro is as scared to go up to God against the God, Judge Harrelson.
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So that's...
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Wait, wait.
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He's called God?
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Yeah.
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Oh man.
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Stop saying Scotchboro.
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Wow.
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I can't handle it.
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Ah, man.
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Yeah, so he's the God of the county.
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To be fair, Alex said this earlier, so maybe this guy is mirroring what Alex said earlier
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that the guy is the God.
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So I don't know.
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I find him unconvincing.
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Here's my general vibe.
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I think maybe he got turned down by a few attorneys.
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My general vibe is that everybody fucking hates this guy, and that no, he's not wrong,
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and that no, you can't get him on anything, but everybody just really does not like this
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guy.
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It may be.
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I think maybe more it's a case of like...
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Fletch too?
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No, who knows how many different variables there could be for a person not wanting to
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take his case.
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Sure.
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It's a loser of a case.
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I'm not going to win this.
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I'm trying to build a reputation in this town.
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I don't like that guy.
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He doesn't have the money, or I'm too busy.
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There's a number of reasons that lawyers could turn this down, and it's more fun to imagine
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it's like, I can't do that because I would anger the judge by practicing law.
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Hey, believe me, I don't discount the insane power of a municipal court judge out of control.
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You read stories about the ones that are like, ah, I judge you, and then you're like, you
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can't really do that, and they're like, apparently I can.
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It's magic world.
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You know what you read more of, though?
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Sheriffs like that.
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Yes, you do.
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Man, we got to keep people who are crazy away from having a lot of power.
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Especially that kind of like unitary, just singular power.
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Jesus.
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So I found something very interesting in the way that Dean talks, and that is that he seems
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to have very different priorities than Alex, and it comes out here.
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Well, they'd do good in China, wouldn't they?
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Yes, they would.
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Judge Harrelson would do great.
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I don't think he would.
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Is it sad to you to see this happening in America?
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I don't think he speaks Mandarin.
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Yes, it is, and it's even more sad to see what this judicial system has done to my family.
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They have destroyed my children's life.
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Well that's, that's, so you're all chained up now.
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By bringing in before his lordship, let's just call him his lordship.
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Okay.
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So you see the way that Alex changed the subject.
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Yeah.
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You get the sense listening to this interview that Philip Dean is primarily focused on his
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family.
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Yeah.
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This whole thing started because he had a belief that his children were not being raised
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in a safe environment with his ex-wife.
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He put up the sign primarily because he lost the custody hearing, and then he couldn't
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afford what it would cost to pay a lawyer for an appeal, which convinced him that the
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court system is a joke.
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He did seem to target the judge in the case more than really expensive lawyers, but I'll
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leave that to the side.
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Sure.
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That's his choice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The point is he mostly just cares about his family.
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He seems pissed off at the court, and this judge in particular, but he's mad because
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their decisions left his kids with his ex-wife, who he thinks is not keeping them safe.
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Yeah.
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Conversely, Alex doesn't care about that at all.
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He just wants to use Dean's story as a prop to incite the audience against the prevailing
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power structure.
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He just wants to do all this shit about how judges are selfish and vain gods, meeting
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out justice on their petty whims.
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It's an interesting dynamic because I don't think that Dean is that politically inclined,
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but he has a story that's very useful to be exploited by Alex, who is deeply politically
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inclined.
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It doesn't feel like Dean is an unwilling participant in this whole thing, and he's
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definitely going along with whatever Alex is laying down, but I get a strong sense that
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if someone had just agreed to represent him in his custody appeal pro bono, none of this
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would be happening.
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Yeah.
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This is... Do you know what I feel like from Dean pre-internet?
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This is somebody who does not have the... Like now, this is a person who has already got
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an Instagram account about how angry stuff is.
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This is a person who's already spinning this into their five minutes or whatever.
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The billboard might as well have been a shit post.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Then he would have had a thing, and then there would have been a big fight, and then he could
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have been selling small billboards.
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That all would have happened in the post-internet.
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Here he is just like, I put up billboards.
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It's the only thing I could do.
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It's the only thing I could do because I don't understand.
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It's yelling into the ether, essentially.
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That's what posting online is, too.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No, it is... Yeah.
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But it is so interesting to me that he seems to be aware of some kind of political corruption
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in Scotchburg or whatever.
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I bet there is.
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I'm sure there is, too.
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I bet there is.
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But he would never have done any of this stuff if it weren't personally affecting his connection
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with his family.
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Yes.
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That's the only real thing that matters to him, whereas Alex wants to take down judges.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Alex would like to be George Washington, and this guy's like, let's take down King George
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because he is fucking pissing on my lawn.
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I'm not saying that he is a great person.
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I have no idea.
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That's pretty much what America did, really.
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Fair.
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But I'm not saying that he should necessarily have custody of his kids.
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I have no idea.
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I don't know the circumstances.
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It may very well be that he is a negligent and bad parent.
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That's possible.
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But his priority or his concern in terms of the story that we're talking about is all
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familial.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And that's unfortunate because he's being used.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's what it is.
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It's in the pre-internet era, it felt like people were being used.
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And now in the internet era, it feels like people are using them being used.
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It's too, yeah.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So Alex tries to bring all of these stories together.
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Sure.
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And in the process brings in another guest.
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All right.
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You'll never guess who it is.
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It's the guy who stole a chicken.
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And that guy's wife.
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It is not.
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Yes.
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It really is?
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Yeah.
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It is not.
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It is.
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What?
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So we've connected two disparate elements of our society that otherwise would never
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have interacted?
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They're on the phone at the same time.
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This is amazing.
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Yes.
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This is what the show should have been for from the beginning.
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Exactly.
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Oh my God.
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Now my friends, I see these type of articles every couple of days.
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I don't even cover them on the air because there's so many of them.
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But today we've been detailing some examples of it.
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Oza Motley, the Grammy award-winning conga band, whatever you want to call it, kind of
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Caribbean music.
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Never been in trouble.
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They mostly play limbo shows.
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I was going to say.
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I mean, the crowd was too big.
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What Grammy do you win as a conga band?
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Conga Grammy.
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Our best Philip Dean put a sign in his yard.
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Our court system is a joke.
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The judge had the police take it, then arrest him.
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He's on with us.
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And then this story I heard about Friday, and I believed it, but I had to find the article
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myself out of the mail tribune out of Oregon.
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And it says it's off to jail for chicken rescuer.
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Williams man thought he had been abandoned, little did he know that she was a town celebrity
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in Murphy.
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How do you not know a town celebrity?
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Got our next guest here on the line, Nick Dombos and his wife, Kathy Dean, no relation
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to Mr. Dean in Alabama.
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Now we're going to the other side of the country to the West coast and in a nutshell, it's
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a long article and I've got several other articles here on it.
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You get a different story when you read the different articles together, you don't goes
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there.
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There's a section really go out by the side of the highway, it's going to get his thrifty
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nickel and he goes in and says, I'm going to take this chicken.
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They say, sure.
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Then he calls, and then all of a sudden the police come out and say, give us the check
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in.
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Let us in.
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He said, no, bring a warrant.
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What story is this?
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He has diabetes and stuff from agent orange and his wife's joining us because sometimes
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he has a problem with his long short term memory, she was saying long short term.
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So in that clip you have Alex doing something that you very rarely see, which is presenting
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stories that he's able to provide connective tissue for in order to build a theme.
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All of these stories are supposed to be cases where the police overstepped.
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There's a vibe that they can work together.
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The issue here though is they really only have that connective tissue if you rely on
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the reality that Alex paints instead of real world reality.
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The case of Oza Motley involves a band ending their show with a conga line at two thirty
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in the morning, which police told them they needed to stop, at which point the crowd got
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a little heated and the drummer accidentally hit an officer with his drum.
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The police overreacted in response to the entire thing, which was remedied by a compromise
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in scaled down charges.
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It was a police overreaction and resolved.
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The case of Phillip Dean is one of judicial overstepping, but it's also a case that it's
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a bit more debatable than Alex wants you to think.
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Dean had previous business in front of the judge and directly attacked him in one of
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the yard signs that Alex tried to pretend didn't exist.
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There's a possibility that when the judge ordered Dean to be brought in for contempt,
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he thought that Dean still had business in front of the court, like he may not have known
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that the time limit for his custody appeal had lapsed.
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That doesn't make this okay, but it makes it more understandable why it would possibly
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be considered contempt by the judge.
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The police overstepped, but only because they were following the orders of the judge, so
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this really isn't similar to the Oza Motley case where it was the police actions.
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It's only similar in terms of vibes.
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And then we have the case of Nicholas Gombos, where a guy steals a chicken because he thought
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he could raise it better than the grocery store for whom it was a mascot.
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He had no right to take that chicken, it was somebody else's, and he refused to return
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it and then threatened the police when they came to retrieve someone else's property that
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he'd stolen.
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He wasn't SWAT-teamed and he has memory problems, which is going to call into question a lot
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of the stuff, like his claim that someone told him it was okay to take speckles, that
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he called to give them updates.
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I don't believe that shit, because they were actively looking for their lost mascot and
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the store was closed when he took it.
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And if he'd called to tell them where it was, this thing would have been resolved much more
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quickly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If you wanted to put connective tissue between all of these things, it would just simply
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be that if you send people with guns to somewhere, they're going to make someplace worse.
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Or the connective tissue is, that's some 2004 bullshit right there.
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That is some strong 2004 bullshit.
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But as it stands with Gombos, this isn't a case of the police or a judge overstepping.
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It's a case of a man stealing a chicken and thinking it was his right to do that because
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he felt he could treat it better than its owner.
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It's a case of a crime being committed and the police arresting someone for that crime.
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But by subtle finesse, Alex is able to wrap all these cases into a neat little bow, making
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them appear to be a part of the cohesive whole.
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But if you examine these cases more closely, that cohesive whole is just based on vibes.
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Alex wants you to feel a certain way about these cases, and that is the connective tissue.
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They're not all cases of police brutality.
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They're not all cases of judicial impropriety.
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They're not all cases of people's rights being infringed.
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There's nothing that holds them firmly together other than they each have good optics for
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Alex to use to make the listeners scared that the man is coming for them, so long as Alex
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is able to fudge some of the details in order to build that vibe up.
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For instance, in that clip, Alex says that Nicholas asked people if he could take the
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chicken and they said it was fine.
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That never happened.
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And if you read the source that Alex himself is citing, they make it very clear that he
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visited the store after hours.
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There was no one there to get permission from.
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But Alex knows that if he lies about that, it makes his subject seem more blameless,
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and that helps him build the vibe of outright, somewhat comical police oppression.
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Even with all that said, it's a staggering thing to see this kind of a swing on Alex's
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show.
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He's legitimately juggling three stories that he's pretending are all connected, and he's
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trying to illustrate a theme.
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I don't think he's successful in his attempt, but it is so much more ambitious.
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I know.
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It really is.
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And also, I think he actually, well, one, I think he fails.
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But I do think there is an incredible connective tissue between all three of these things,
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which is that it is people being assholes, and then the problem being escalated through
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the use of somebody who has guns.
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It's simple.
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What are you doing?
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Don't go outside the fucking bar at 2.30.
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Some people are trying to sleep.
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Asshole behavior.
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Everybody should go, hey, quit being an asshole, and then they go, I'm sorry, I was an asshole.
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And then it's done.
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What are you doing?
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Putting billboards up?
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What are you fucking doing?
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Take them down.
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Talk to your ex-wife.
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Work shit out.
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Get a fucking...
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No.
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No.
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Problem.
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What are you doing?
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You stole that chicken.
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There's no reason to steal a chicken.
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Give back the damn chicken.
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Just give the chicken back.
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Nope.
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Guys with guns.
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No.
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I'm telling you.
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No guys with guns should go anywhere.
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You almost slipped into Danny Callis there.
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I really did.
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It was so close.
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It was so hard not to.
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I think you're somewhat right, but I also don't think it's all people with guns, because
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it is also just...
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It's authority of a certain level that is unnecessary.
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It's overkill.
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Right.
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Is essentially it.
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It is like, this should be resolved by being people, and instead it's being resolved by
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this over-the-top level that's not going to resolve it.
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It's going to make it worse.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the thing that is made worse is exploitable by someone like Alex.
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Exactly.
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Because he can make it look like this is all about completely out of the blue, just the
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state wanting to do this to you, as opposed to people who make some bad reactions to people
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being dicks.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, so much of this is just like, listen, if you are a judge, you need to understand
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that if you act like an asshole like this, Alex is going to convince a million people
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that all judges are full of shit and evil.
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Like that's on you.
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That's on every single fucking one of you, because you get to wear a pretend robe that
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makes you powerful.
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Every time you put it on, you have to be better than the people who are not wearing the robe.
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That's the idea.
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Sure.
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I mean, I think that, yeah, you have a responsibility to the public.
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And if you fuck up, guess what?
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There's Alex right there.
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Right.
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And when you fuck up, it's not the man crushing a guy with a sign.
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It's someone who made a bad decision, possibly in some good faith, because there is a decent
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chance that that guy did think there was business in front of the court.
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He did think that this was an egregious level of contempt.
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His name was on the sign.
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That's probably shit talk that you don't want to handle.
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Now at the same time, as a judge, he's a public figure, so the bar for what you can and can't
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say about them is a little wider than if he was just a private citizen.
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But these instances, except for the chicken one, all have like-
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That's a man who has memory problems who stole a chicken.
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The whole problem has nothing to do with chicken or stealing.
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There's so many other things that need to be handled before we get into the, why did
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this guy just steal a chicken?
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That's a larger question.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But what I mean-
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Sorry.
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Is that the Oza Motley instance and the Billboard instance are both ones where the problem becoming
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a problem is the bad decision made by the person with authority.
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Yes.
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In the case of the chicken, that's not the case.
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That's not the problem.
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No, no, no.
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So that connective tissue that you're describing doesn't really, doesn't hold up.
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Yeah.
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I mean, come on, man.
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The guy didn't mean to steal a chicken.
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He did.
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He doesn't understand the concept of-
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He absolutely did.
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No, no, no.
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Well, he didn't mean to steal it, but he did mean to take that chicken.
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Right, right, right.
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No, he totally meant to take that chicken.
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But the fact that the man meant to take that chicken is the problem.
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Not anything else.
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But he also-
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The reasons behind his thinking are the problem.
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Well, once he was informed that that's someone else's chicken, he still refused to give it
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back.
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Then there's the problem.
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So then it may as well have been stealing from the beginning once he refused to address
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it.
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Sure.
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So anyway-
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Give it back that chicken, Ben.
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We get into the chicken.
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... spacing a bunch of charges.
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Now, they couldn't charge him with stealing a chicken, so what they do is-
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Why not?
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Then they claim that he didn't follow their orders, that he obstructed an officer, a failure
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to follow an officer's order, because he didn't let them in without a warrant.
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See, that's how it works now.
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And they got a Supreme Court ruling on last Monday, seven days ago.
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The Supreme Court ruled in a Nevada case of an old rancher on the side of the highway
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at his own offense, amending offense.
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The police officer pulls up, says, answer my questions, give me your ID, and he says,
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son, don't be rude to me.
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You know, I don't have to answer your questions.
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I don't have to-
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Well, so now you've got to have your national ID card, you see.
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Then he was charged and convicted of obstructing justice and resisting, which would be assault,
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and he got convicted of that.
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They admit he didn't touch him.
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This was in the Las Vegas Review Journal, folks, in a headline, The Road to the Police
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State.
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He didn't touch him, but it's now resisting to not answer their questions.
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And so that's the same thing now that Nick Gombos is facing.
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You can read this article.
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So Alex said that they couldn't charge him with stealing the chicken at the beginning
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of the clip, but they very much did charge him with theft.
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I was going to say, that seems like what you used.
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He had a third degree theft charge that he was hit with, and Alex is pretending that
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didn't happen because it works better for this police state nonsense.
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No, he stole the chicken.
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So that Nevada case that Alex is talking about with his Supreme Court decision is Hable versus
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Sixth District Court of Nevada.
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That's the decision in play.
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In that case, it had nothing to do with a kindly old rancher mending fences and then
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cops just deciding to fuck with him.
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He seemed like such a nice guy in Alex's telly.
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He did.
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Yeah.
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So there had been a report to the police of a woman being assaulted, and the description
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of the perpetrator was that he was driving a red and silver GMC truck.
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They found a truck fitting that description seemingly hastily pulled over to the side
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of the highway, and Larry Hable was outside of it smoking a cigarette.
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I didn't hit nobody.
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Also, a young woman was inside the truck.
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Who's she?
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This all added up to at least some very basic suspicion on the officer's part.
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You guys have been drinking.
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You wanted some identification from Hable, who refused to provide it.
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What?
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The officer was just trying to get more information, and Hable kept repeating, just take me to
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jail and being entirely uncooperative.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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When there's something being investigated and the police have a reasonable suspicion
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about you, you are required to identify yourself to them in the state of Nevada.
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That is a law that is on the books in Nevada.
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Hable didn't do that, and he was charged with obstructing an officer over it, and then he
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took it all the way to the Supreme Court.
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The Supreme Court ruled that Nevada's stop-and-identify law was not unconstitutional, which has literally
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zero bearing on how the Oregon police handled a guy who stole a check.
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Yeah, that is zero bearing.
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But they kind of connect on vibes.
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They can be made to feel like they connected.
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You just fudge some details.
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I genuinely believe that the law should be that if you say to the cops, just take me
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to jail, they should have to take you.
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Like it should end there.
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Well, they did.
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Yeah, right?
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There should be no further need for, like, ah, yes, we have no further business here.
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I shall get into your car.
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You shall take me to the police station.
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We don't need to talk anymore.
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That's how it works, right?
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That's like the amendment where it's like anything you say, you know, that whole thing.
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I think, uh, sure, yeah.
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But what if you just want a ride?
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What if you're going somewhere near the police station?
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Do they give rides?
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Or would you commit a crime to get a ride?
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What if that guy's car was broken down, his truck was broken down, and that's why it was
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hastily pulled over the road?
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And you know that a cop is not going to voluntarily give you a ride.
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Right.
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Take me to jail.
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Yeah.
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Because I need to go to the...
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Because across the street is a great coffee shop.
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Or there's a place that I can get it towed.
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There's a tow company there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, man.
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And it's $2,000, so I don't have a cell phone.
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Save you so much money.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Perfect.
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Good call.
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So, Gombos' wife is mostly doing this interview.
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His wife, Kathy.
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Right.
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And so she corrects Alex that...
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How old is Gombos?
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Mmm...
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Didn't he say he was in Vietnam?
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Okay.
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So that should give you some sense.
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All right.
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Okay.
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So an old man stole a chick.
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Yes.
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Everything you said is the absolute truth with the exception that the store was closed.
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There wasn't anyone around when Nick picked it up.
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It was 10 o'clock at night.
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Okay.
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I got three different articles here.
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Yeah.
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And I know the news gets up wrong a lot.
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10 o'clock at night.
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So I'm trying to go off the newspaper.
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Yeah.
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And my wife talked to you, setting you up for the show early this morning, but explain
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to me then what happened.
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Okay.
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So he was coming home from Grants Pass, approximately 10 o'clock at night.
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He stopped and, as you said, picked up his weekly nickel at Ray's Market, and he found...
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He saw a chicken underneath some magazines, and he also saw a box.
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Like sleeping under it?
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Like...
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The first time he watched that was when someone left a chicken in her hens and her chick,
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and people picked up the baby chicks and left the hen.
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Okay.
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That was what he first thought.
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So he went around to see if there were any baby chicks around, and he didn't find any.
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So he put the hen in the box and brought it home.
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There was no one around to ask if the chicken belonged to anybody.
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Everything was closed up.
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Okay.
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I'm trying to dig out the quote out of one of these stories.
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It says that your husband did, though, at some time talked to employees, and they said
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it was fine.
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I phoned the following morning after finding out from the neighbors this chicken looked
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similar to one she had seen down at Ray's Market.
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Okay.
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So I immediately phoned the market and said that we had the chicken.
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I feel like this story shouldn't go further.
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Okay?
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And the lady, or the gentleman that I talked to, it was a long conversation, but at some
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point it was...
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How?
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We have your chicken!
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We should bring the box back.
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Come get your chicken!
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It should be a short conversation!
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We should go ahead and keep the chicken.
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No, it's a...
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Go ahead and keep it.
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What?
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Go ahead and keep the chicken.
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You wouldn't do it!
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Bring the box back.
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Keep the chicken.
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I don't give a shit.
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I don't think that happened.
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I don't think that even slightly happened!
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No.
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What are you talking about?
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Keep the chicken!
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I could assume, if she wasn't saying it was a long conversation and that this was the
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result of it, or the end result of it, I could see them calling and some low-level employee
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who didn't know anything.
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But it's a small grocery store.
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I mean, get the fuck out of here.
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It would have to be a small staff, probably.
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If it was a long conversation, the conversation was, we're keeping the chicken.
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And then it ended with, sure, keep the chicken!
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And see, I don't think that they should have this chicken.
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I don't think they should have the chicken either.
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And part of the reason is this next clip, where Kathy is throwing a little shade at
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the chicken.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, God.
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This chicken was not a town celebrity, as it's been reported the chicken had only been
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there for three weeks, and no one owns it, and no one even knows where it came from.
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That's the funny thing, in one article, they say it's a celebrity, and they own it.
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In the other articles, they say it's not owned.
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They can't trust the media.
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Yeah, definitely not owned, and it only showed up approximately three weeks ago.
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Okay, well, accelerate through this for us.
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Maybe it was a big three weeks.
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Wait, so now what's going on?
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How is this story not over?
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So listen to me.
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If this chicken wasn't a publicly known figure, how was her friend able to identify it on
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site?
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It does seem suspicious.
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That she called the store the next day after Nick stole the chicken.
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Seems suspicious.
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It doesn't track.
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Maybe she was just saying that it wasn't a big celebrity, it was like a town D celebrity,
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you know?
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It wasn't the town links.
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That thing is fucking riding high.
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What's the ceiling for a chicken?
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Mike the headless chicken was one of the highest selling.
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That's different.
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Okay.
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Also, in the article that Alex is using as a source for the Mail Tribune, Kathy is quoted
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as saying she and her husband, quote, were not regular shoppers at the store as a way
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of claiming ignorance that the chicken that they'd taken was the store's mascot.
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Why did you steal this chicken?
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She admits unfamiliarity with Ray's as a store, and now here she is asserting that the chicken
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wasn't a local favorite.
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I...
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Curious.
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It's very curious.
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I don't understand why this man stole this chicken.
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I really don't understand why she is defending stealing the chicken.
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I am willing to accept the possibility that he took the chicken in good faith as he was
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concerned about its well-being.
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That's fine.
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I don't believe that every action taken after that point...
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It's all a problem.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It's almost like they were like, oh fuck, we're in over our head.
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Yeah, it feels exactly like that.
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It feels exactly like that.
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Instead of just give the chicken back and everything will be fine.
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They feel, yeah, it feels like they're trying to get away with the chicken for some reason.
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It's like you could just give the chicken back.
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Like they accidentally killed someone and they're engaged in a cover-up or something.
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Yes!
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Yes!
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It's ridiculous.
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You took a chicken.
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Just give the chicken back!
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Nobody's even a problem!
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Yeah, oh man.
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Okay.
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So I think that also there's an issue that these people might be a little bit delusional.
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That's possible.
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Deputy Tripp came back and said that my husband was going to be arrested on felony chicken
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charges.
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Felony, felony, felony, felony.
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Felony chicken charges?
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Felony chicken.
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Now felonies, I think $2,000 in Texas.
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What is it there?
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I didn't know this chicken was worth thousands of dollars.
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No, no, of course not.
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It's not.
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No, it wasn't.
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He outright lied to us.
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By the way, possession is nine-tenths of the law.
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Well, we're going to get it back.
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Chicken law.
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I think eventually.
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Mondays on Fox.
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Yeah.
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They think they're going to get the chicken.
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They're going to get the chicken back.
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Yeah.
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How?
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Using what laws?
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Well, let's see, there is one interesting wrinkle to this story and that is in the aftermath
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of them stealing the chicken and this becoming a big public to do.
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I can't believe that.
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There was the local animal folks chimed in that it was like, this is not sanitary or
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safe thing to have a chicken as a mascot.
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Obviously.
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And so there is maybe a tiny piece of her brain that's like, you know, maybe you can't
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go back there.
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Maybe it'll come with us.
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Oh my God.
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But no, it said Nick went to jail for a little bit.
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Yeah.
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I mean.
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Which would not have happened if you just give the chicken back.
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Just give the chicken back.
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I don't understand.
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See, I just, that's the thing.
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Like I don't understand the like saving something and then I, no, I don't get it.
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I don't get it.
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I just don't get it.
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It does.
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I understand why you don't get it and that is what makes you think that maybe you weren't
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saving it to begin with.
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Yeah.
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Like in a vacuum, I see what Nick did that night.
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Sure.
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As like benevolent possibly.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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But all the actions after it make you think, no, he was, he was putting it inside his coat
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and running away.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah.
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Does he have, does he have like experiences as a chicken person?
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Does he like, Oh, aha, this is another issue that I'm struggling with.
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Is this the first time he's ever even talked to a chicken?
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If so, how does he know how the chicken feels about anything?
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It's this is what happens when you go back to the past.
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I need to know more about this chicken.
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There's not much more to know, except you died like a month after this.
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Oh God.
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Was it like a beautiful, Oh, I didn't, I couldn't find a picture of the bird itself, but I found
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a bird like it.
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It's a nice looking bird.
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It's a nice looking bird.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Speckled.
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Yeah.
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Of course.
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That's the name.
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Naturally.
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Um, but yeah, this, this real femme fatale.
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This is that 2004 shit.
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It is.
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This is nuts.
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Just mainline it, man.
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So just mainline chicken thieves.
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They get done with the billboard slash chicken interviews and Alex decides he's going to
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go to calls and uh, Oh my Lord.
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What a mistake.
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Well, I'm not quite sure if this is the right time to talk to you about this, but uh, you
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know how the new world order is always hiding things in plain view.
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Sure.
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Alex.
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Yes.
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Uh, well wife and I watched the movie Willard last night and at the very last thing, uh,
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the main character gets thrown into an insane asylum.
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The number on his cell door, three dash nine one one in other words, September 11th and
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March 11th.
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Yeah.
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The globalists love to do that.
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Thanks for the call.
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Oh shit.
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You get it?
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Was Willard the one with the guy who controls rats?
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Little rats, Crispin Glover, Crispin Glover did nine 11.
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They were in March.
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They were predicting predictive program.
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Any number you see anywhere means things Willard came out before nine 11.
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I'm pretty sure.
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Yeah.
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Or maybe he's talking about the original Willard because wasn't it a remake of the original
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Willard day?
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I'm trying to see.
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Okay.
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I think Willard, the other one might have come out even before 11.
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All right.
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No.
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It looks like it was 2003 1971 was the original.
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So it's either he watched it at 2003 one and went, Oh, they're gloating and they're laughing
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at us by putting this guy into a mental asylum for thinking that nine 11 was had job that
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happened inside March.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, cause three 11 is another terrorist attack.
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But look, here's the situation that we have to wrestle with this.
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No, hold on.
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Did the band do it?
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Wait, hold on.
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It can't be predictive programming cause this is a 2004 right?
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He is talking about the 2003 2003 movie after the laughing at us or, or, or what in 1971
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they predicted nine 11 in this, uh, okay.
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That would be, that would be a twist 30 years in advance.
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That would be a solid twist.
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I'd take that twist.
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If Nicholas cage was playing me in the movie, this would be the point at which you're like,
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that's why we hired Nicholas.
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Predictive programming doesn't go that far.
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That's fair.
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Also.
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This is a, not the time.
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No, I don't know if this is the time to bring this up.
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You just had some pretty heavy chicken stuff going on.
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So we have one last clip and this is a, we get back to Canada getting lured into world
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war two.
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All right.
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So there's a little pay house.
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Okay.
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I mean these are the real news articles.
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This is the real stuff that's going on.
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Then there's this article out of the Edmond journal out of Canada, lighthouse attack was
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staged by us to trick Canada into war.
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And they go to the evidence of the us attacking the lighthouse to blame it on Japan or Germany.
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And that was the pretext to get them into the war.
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There's that article, just another example of it.
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Oh, there's so much of it.
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So this is ridiculous for a number of reasons.
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First being that the shelling of Estevan point lighthouse happened in 1942 and Canada entered
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world war two in 1939.
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So they're already in, they were, they were a little behind America and this is one of
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the situations where Alex doesn't understand the conspiracy theories he's covering because
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most of his workflow is just skimming headlines on kooky news aggregator sites.
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The conspiracy here is that the attack was a false flag, not to get Canada into world
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war two, but to make the public support a draft.
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Alex makes a further problem by saying that the attack was fake to blame Japan or Germany,
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where if he had any familiarity with the story at all, he would know that it was just Japan.
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The attack was blamed on Japan because they did it.
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Right.
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Oh, so they did do it.
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They did.
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Japan did do the attack.
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This is a great encapsulation of most conspiracy theories where there's basically zero evidence
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of something, but you found a potential motive for a certain act to have been carried out.
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So you skip over the lack of evidence and you just arrive at the conspiracy conclusion.
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Japan was unpopular in Canada, but after this attack on the lighthouse, people were more
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open to it.
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Thus, it must have been a false flag in order to sway the public towards conscription.
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Probably.
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Unfortunately for someone like Alex, imagining a motive isn't the same thing as solving a
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case and in this case, there's tons of evidence that Japan did the attack.
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For one, there are pieces of shells that hit the lighthouse that have been found and are
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on display publicly and they're Japanese.
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Okay.
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Well, that's probably pretty high evidence.
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Second, Japanese military documents have been discovered that prove that two submarines,
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the I-25 and I-26, were responsible for the attack as well as one on the American Fort
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Stevens in Oregon.
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They were all on the west coast.
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They bombed that shit too.
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Fellas, go back.
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Go back home.
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You're a little bit far.
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A little bit far.
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So the reason that there's a conspiracy here at all is because of this imagined motive
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and a single entry in the then light keeper's notes, which said that the attack was carried
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out by warships when in reality it had been done by submarines.
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Right.
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People who want to see a conspiracy insist that the light keeper must have been right,
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whereas the more likely explanation was offered by Canadian naval historians Michael Whitby
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and Bill Rawling in an article in the Ottawa Citizen.
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Sure.
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Quote, the eyewitness testimony cited to support the conspiracy theory in the article is also
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flawed.
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Rather than coolly watching the attack, the lighthouse keeper ran down the stairs of a
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425 foot structure, found his wife to warn her to take cover, and then ran all the way
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back up the stairs to douse the light.
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Presumably this took some time and effort and impaired his ability to observe the relatively
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short attack.
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As for identifying warship types, trained military personnel consistently make errors
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along the lines of aircraft attacking whales that they take to be submarines.
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Yeah.
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But again, Alex needs to come up with sneaky explanations for how everyone got tricked
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into fighting the Nazis.
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But don't worry.
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He's not a fan.
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He's not a fan of the Nazis.
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Just everyone should have been minding their own business and not gotten sucked into or
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tricked into fighting World War II.
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It's very weird.
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I do love a good old fashioned, ah, but we have one guy's notes.
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Those are always good.
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Also, I mean, come on, man.
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It's a warship.
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It's a ship that makes war.
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I don't know.
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It could be any ship.
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It could be an undership.
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It could be an overship.
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No, apparently this guy-
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It was shooting bombs at me!
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Apparently this guy, in addition to his note, he had said other times, it was a quote.
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But you can't take that as super credible, given the circumstances of-
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I'm under attack, come on, man!
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Under attack, running up and down the lighthouse.
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Oh, that's so stupid.
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The then technology he would have had to be able to determine what it was.
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He goes down, he warns his wife, and then suddenly it stops.
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It hits him.
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I got to turn the light off, and then runs all the way back up.
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You feel for the guy.
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Heartbreaking.
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Feel for him.
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That is a comical moment.
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Yep.
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So, Jordan.
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Yeah.
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We've reached the end of this episode.
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Yeah.
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I want to go back.
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I mean, the past.
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Take me back.
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The past.
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Such limited stakes.
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You got skeletons with hats.
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Oh, those hats!
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You got people stealing chickens.
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I almost forgot how scary the skeletons with fezzes are.
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You got an angry divorcee putting up signs.
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It's just everything is kind of- I don't know if this is the right way to put it, but this
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is fucking Americana.
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It's very News of the World-y.
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It is very much like, this is what I'm here for.
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I'm in the checkout line, I'm strolling- oh, look at this!
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Well, that's insane.
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A man stole a chicken?
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Alright, I'll put that back.
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Thank you very much, and I'm on my day.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Alex turns it into a show.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:42.840)
So, I look forward to going to the past more, because this is great.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:47.279)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:48.279)
Yeah, the worse the present gets, I think we might-
Unknown Speaker (01:45:50.439)
You just find these- Is it technically The Matrix if we just choose
Unknown Speaker (01:45:53.920)
to only cover the past as if we lived in it?
Unknown Speaker (01:45:58.319)
We need to make some- podcasting didn't exist in 2004.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:02.079)
Sure, but I mean, that's just radio that we put into a bottle.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:05.119)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:06.119)
And then throw into the ocean.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:07.119)
That's the same difference.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:08.119)
I really, I really think you're being- bending the rules of The Matrix.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:12.039)
Radio- fair enough.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:13.560)
But to be fair, there's no spoon.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:16.000)
There is no spoon.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:18.439)
So anyway, we'll be back.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:19.439)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:20.439)
But until then, we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:21.439)
Indeed we do, it's knowledgeright.com.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:22.439)
Yep, we're also on Blue Sky.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:23.439)
We are on Blue Sky, it's knowledgeright.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:24.439)
Yep, we'll be back.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:25.439)
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, pour one out for my boy Speckles.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:29.920)
Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo!
Unknown Speaker (01:46:33.880)
And now, here comes the sex robots.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:36.119)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (01:46:38.039)
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
