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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes, like to sit around,
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worship at the altar of Selene
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, is
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I recently had to get something delivered
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by GoPuff.
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Okay.
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I've never used them before.
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I've never heard of what you're saying.
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It's like a delivery thing, they have a warehouse
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and they have like all kinds of like Sudafed
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or meds if you need them.
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Oh that's great.
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Things you could get at a convenience store
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but maybe an hour that you can't get them
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where you don't want to go.
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Fantastic.
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They also have booze.
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Love it.
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And some grocery items.
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I don't know, this isn't a plug.
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No, no, no, no, I'm not worried.
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I understand the concept now.
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I'm only setting this up because otherwise
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this will make no sense why this is a bright spot.
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Okay.
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So I needed to get this and I was looking over
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what they had in stock and available
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and I saw something and I was like,
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well this is the coolest thing I've ever seen
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and so I ordered bum, bum, bum, bum.
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Monster, Monster Mash cereal?
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Monster Mash cereal.
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Boo, Boo Berry.
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Yes.
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Frankenberry, Count Chocula, the mummy with the thing
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and then the werewolf, oh shit.
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It's all of the monster cereals.
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They have finally got together
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and they're jamming as a band.
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Oh my God, it's got the history.
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71, Count Chocula and Frankenberry.
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72, Boo Berry.
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74, his name is Fruit Brute.
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Fruit Brute.
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Fruit Brute.
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Yummy Mummy.
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Then Yummy Mummy obviously.
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Of course, of course.
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And then of course in 2021, the monsters reunite to Mash.
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So we have three things that I think are important
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to bring up about this.
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The first is what month is it?
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This is a Halloween kind of thing.
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It is early May.
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Yeah.
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This is definitely not in season.
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Well.
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And you might notice also it's 50 years.
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It's the 50th anniversary.
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50th anniversary.
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The monsters get together.
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And you notice you read over this 1971.
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Yes sir.
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This is from last Halloween.
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This is the last Halloween.
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This is quite shelved cereal.
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It's all of the older variety.
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Yeah, that's great.
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So I ate it and I found something really
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like telling about this.
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And that is like one of these things is not like the others.
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Okay.
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And it does not belong in there.
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I'm gonna go with Fruit Brute.
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No, count Chocula.
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Oh.
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All the rest of them are fruit-based cereals.
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But you can't just have fruit-based cereal.
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Yes you can.
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You need to have the chocolate element in there.
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I challenge you to eat this cereal
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and tell me that afterwards.
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I don't want to.
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That sounds disgusting.
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No.
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I wouldn't want Chocula in there.
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I love a chocolate covered strawberry or something.
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Sure.
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It does not work in this cereal form.
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So count Chocula.
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Go fuck yourself.
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Go solo.
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You don't need to be in the band.
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Vampires don't really team up with people either.
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No, they're pretty.
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Solo.
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Solo hunters.
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Independent creatures, the vampires.
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Except for Renfields, as we've learned from Alex.
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Renfields, well yeah, but Renfields are disposable.
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True, true.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, Dan, you know that I love the tennises.
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True.
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Love the Rafas.
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Right.
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My favorite player, obviously.
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You like that guy who was really into
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being anti-vaxxed in Australia?
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No, I don't.
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I don't like Djokovic.
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And what's cool is that over the past three days,
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a 19 year old kid did something that hasn't been done
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for like 20 years.
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What's that?
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He beat Rafa, Djokovic, and then Zverev.
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Back to back to back.
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He beat Zverev?
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I mean, that one wasn't exciting.
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That's not even a name I know.
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Exactly.
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You talk about tennis a lot.
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I don't even know that name.
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Yeah, yeah, he sucks.
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Okay.
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I mean, he's in the top 10, but he sucks.
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Compared to your boy.
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Well, no, I mean, he's just soft.
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He's weak, he's callow, he's soft.
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Wow.
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But this 19 year old kid, Spanish kid from Spain,
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looked up to Rafa his entire life since before he...
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Rafa won a major when this kid was two years old.
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Right, right.
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All right, so he beats him.
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Now Rafa's injured.
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He's coming off a bad injury.
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He's got a terrible foot injury because he's Rafa
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and that's just how he does things.
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So then he comes back and he plays Djokovic the next day.
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Three sets, three and a half hours, man.
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This was some of the best tennis anybody's ever played.
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This kid's 19 years old.
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And you know what I was thinking, Dan?
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What's that?
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My entire adult life, I've had a Spanish Adonis
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to look up to and Rafa's gonna retire soon.
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Wow.
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But guess what?
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The chain remains unbroken, my friend.
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As God closes the door, he opens a window.
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You know, that's another Spanish Adonis window.
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Yeah.
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Well, congratulations, I'm glad you have that
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to look forward to for the next 20 years.
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Oh, man.
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The potential of this guy.
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It will be, it's amazing.
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The kid's amazing.
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That's great.
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I will note that for my bright spot, I had a prop.
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You did, you did.
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Well, I mean, I could have hit you with a tennis ball,
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but I don't think you would have.
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Come on.
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Hit me with a racket next time.
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Hit you with a racket?
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Yeah.
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I assumed you wanted a guitar.
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Nope.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over
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and I think that maybe one of the more notable things
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that's come out in Info Wars World in the past,
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since we've had an episode, is the little bit of audio
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of Paul Joseph Watson being a real racist fuck.
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I heard that he might be a racist.
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Uh-huh.
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And, you know what, I don't care.
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And it's not because I don't care,
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it's because this is only him saying the things
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that we've already known he's been expressing.
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Yeah.
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Pretty much his entire career and through Info Wars.
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Yeah.
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So, we're not gonna cover that at all.
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Nope.
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And actually, it has led me to descend to the past.
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Smart move.
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I need a break from Alex's present day bullshit.
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I need a break from the present day period.
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Yeah, so we're going back to 2003
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and we're gonna be talking about July 29th and 30th,
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back in 2003.
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All right.
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Very interesting stretch of time.
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I think we find some wacky characters
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and some silly nonsense.
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But before we get to that though, Jordan,
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let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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So first, congratulations Joe and Michaela
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on your dreamy, creamy wedding.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Congratulations and thank you.
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Thank you.
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Next, Nikki in California, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Eric.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Next, Kobal, Killer Girl, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Fuck the Beer and Your Horses You Rode In On,
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thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, Brian Stelter from The Future
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sent back to stop Alex before it's too late.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I'd watch that movie.
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Thank you. I think it would be pretty good. And it would be predictive program. It would be very predictive. Next one dreamy creamy summer
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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And finally
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at
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Duncan for SC on Twitter is a fella Daniel Duncan's running for the house. Okay. In South Carolina. All right
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I don't know enough to endorse political candidates. We don't endorse political candidates. But I looked at his ballot
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Pedia page and it seems like he has some good answers to the question seems like he has some
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So if you're in South Carolina, check him out and see if he's a candidate you'd be interested in. Thank you so much
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Daniel Duncan, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. So Jordan we start off. Yes, sir
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July 29th
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2003
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Wednesday to be it might be I don't know
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the calendar
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But here's where we start off. Uh-huh. We have the founder of global research
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magazine
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He is a political science and history professor
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Michael Chasidosky joining us from Canada in the next hour
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Now a couple days ago. He wrote detailed
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Breakdown of the lies and the fraud and we don't know what lie is the big lie or what the truth is
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We just know we're being lied to
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Concerning of the Saddam sons the two brothers tweedle-dum and still think you're being lied to still
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Well, I believe we're living with their father in Belarus. I believe the Russian and Iranian newspapers before I believe the Pentagon
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I'm sorry. That's just the crack record
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At least on the issues that are embarrassing to the certain elements of the globalist camp. I do. Okay. Well, maybe that's a bad policy
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Yeah, so this is a fascinating guest to see pop up here in the past
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Because the first time that he's been on but it's not fascinating for the reasons that it might first appear
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The reason it's interesting to see Michael Chasidosky is because he's not someone who's still a regular on Alex's show
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but should be
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For a while Chasidosky made frequent appearances with Alex because in many ways he's an ideal guest
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beginning in 2001
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Chasidosky founded the Center for Research on globalization and from that point on has been responsible for one of the websites that disseminates a
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Gigantic portion of the anti globalization conspiracy content that's on the internet global research research dot CA
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Hmm, we'll get more into him when he shows up on the show
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But for now suffice it to say when I heard that this is the first time that him and Alex and Chasidosky
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Passes their pads crossed my ears perked up. Of course. I was kind of underwhelmed eventually, but it's well, it's
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This is the case in all Infowars origin stories kind of but it's notable as hell. Yes. This is a big
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like I guess maybe it's not a big deal, but it's
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Consequential in terms of like the paths that these two would end up going, you know
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Like with global research dot CA being like a gigantic
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Conspiracy. Yeah clearinghouse and then Alex being from
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2003 onward becoming such a luminary of the conspiracy. Yeah
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The the overlap of their influences no word is yeah, it's huge. It's historical
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Uh, yeah, I wouldn't go that maybe only for us. Yeah, so look these these
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Saddam's kids
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Yes, they were shown
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With facial reconstruction who was done because they were obviously they were yes quite
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mutilated in the course of the u.s. Actions in
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Killing them and so in order to make them look more
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Convincing right people right which I mean we can debate whether or not that was a great idea for for the people to do
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Right, they were given some
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You know reconstructive surgery and Alex believes that they look like
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Folks from a bad wax museum. Well, that's probably true though. But Alex is an expert on these matters
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Oh, I did not know that here they are. It looks like something at the
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low-end
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Wax museum because my parents would drag me all over the country what and on on on road trip
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Vacations like national lampoons and you'd be in a big city and go to the wax museum and be pretty nice
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but you know the little town that had the old wax museum and the wax figures didn't look very good and
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You know, maybe the nose was falling off of one. That's what these look like
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the bad wax museums I've been to
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So
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Alex is a noted scholar in the realm of relative quality of wax museum
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Did he just tell me that a lot of his childhood was spent driving around to different towns tasting their wax museums?
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Well, metaphorically tasting. Yes, metaphorically tasting. Yes, of course
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Uh, yeah, I think so
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When I was younger, I went we did a lot of road trip vacations. Well sure
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We would drive to California to see our family every summer, of course, and we lived in Missouri
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So is Missouri to California and one such very long. Oh, yeah, and we'd camp every night
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So we take make a meal out of the trip and totally you know, you'd go like one year
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You'd maybe take a straight shot through the middle right and then it's boring to do again
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You can't do it. So you take different paths. Yeah, we stopped at some bullshit stuff like wall drug
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There's a cavern somewhere everywhere every time you drive somewhere west sooner or later
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There's gonna be sign that's like caverns and you just go to yeah the world's largest pecan. That's where you go
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Yeah, you have to yeah, it's America
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But yeah, I don't I have my experience looking back on it is definitely not like hey, I know all about
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wax museum or anything there's
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Maybe it's just the case that like Alex's parents were like deeply into wax museums. Yeah, that does sound like a
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Detail that should be shared if it is true if it cuz what there's no way look we've we've been on road trips
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Yeah, we're from the Midwest you road trip out here
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The idea of going to like any of those stopover things where world's largest bar and then being like, okay
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Well now we're going east so we got to find and compare the world's largest bar over there to the one from the wet
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No, I think you've seen him
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I think a more likely thing is that Alex went to one wax museum when he was a kid and now he's exaggerating that to
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Create an area of specialization probably but god. I also want him to be an expert on wax music. Yeah, me too
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Yeah, we're really overthinking we are a little bit
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So we get to in this next clip Alex is kind of introducing his main narrative that's gonna take over this episode
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But he's also really all over the place
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They have learned that if something is hidden in plain view now, and they just say it's normal
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That the general public doesn't have a moral base or compass
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And will accept it as good and wholesome. We have now entered Orwellian double-think
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War just now people can't even engage in critical thinking on average
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And so they announced that
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We're going to have a betting system
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A similar to the Chicago Mercantile exchange
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Run by the Pentagon and controlled and founded and the architecture constructed by DARPA
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The folks with the old saying I pyramid total information awareness network that want to watch you and your family
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Run by the convicted felon Admiral Boindexter
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I involved in you know, all the trafficking of goodies into the country and out of the country while the goodies
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But MTV promotes just a nice fellow
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What there's I was thinking about this this morning. There's no way
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To even try to describe this properly
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It's so horrible. He's just rambling all over the place. There's a batting market of some sort now
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You can't finish this fucking sentence. Yeah, so I'll just clarify what he's talking about. Thank you
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This is Alex reporting that the government is setting up a literal
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Casino style betting pool where these elites and defense contractors can gamble on coming wars and countries
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Collapsing that sounds great what he's describing is called PAM or the policy analysis market for intelligence
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And guess what? He's actually not far off from reality
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Naturally, there's some important caveats to make and one of the first and I think the most important is well expressed in a paper by
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Robert Looney in the journal strategic insight quote because DARPA is mandated to take on risky projects failures have occurred
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Sometimes the projects they embark on are a little bit wacky and this policy analysis market is one such example
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Sure to be clear
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This project was abandoned around the time of this episode of Alex's show and it never actually existed
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But the thinking behind it isn't actually as macabre and as evil as it might initially sound
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The basis for this idea was that for years futures markets have been used as a predictor of societal unrest and other sorts of
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Geopolitical issues again from this strategic insights article quote the use of petroleum
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futures contract prices is an example of the manner in which traders gauged the likely outcome of events such as the US naval response to
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Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 in a like manner the movement of petroleum futures prices in late March
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2003 after the recent Iraq war began reflected the implications traders drew concerning the outcome of the conflict
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Falling rapidly in the first few days of the conflict but rising again after it became apparent
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The Iraqi regime would not fall in a matter of days
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The goal of this policy analysis market wasn't so much about allowing elites to gamble on geopolitical conflict
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Because in a roundabout way they already can and do it was about giving the US intelligence agencies market based ways to trade on
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different potential events
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Which it was theorized might provide signals that could be interpreted like is already done with sudden movements and commodity futures markets, right?
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So they were trying to create
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I guess
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Capitalism based virtual reality system whereby they can predict
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Using the data of who's buying and selling what whether or not they're gonna go to war well
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Sort of but not not exactly like not like whether or not they're gonna go to war
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like trying to predict potential coming
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trouble
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Destabilization in areas, but it also like there's there's also very important elements
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Like it wasn't supposed to be about anyone getting rich and it wouldn't have been a vehicle for that
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They had a cap on a hundred dollars for bets and only 1000 expert traders were even participated in this
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Invited to participate initially now
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I'm I'm saying that the underlying idea here makes some sense from just like a conceptual standpoint
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But please do not take that to be me saying this was a good idea
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No
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It obviously is something that could go wrong in about a thousand different ways and even leaving that aside
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It seems like it's in very poor taste the world already has a earned bad image of organizations like the cia
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They don't need to add the already bad
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Optics that they have uh to like they're gambling on whether or not a particular government will fall sure might be involved in destabilizing
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It's a disaster. Yeah. Yeah, like going back. They were like, oh man, we lost a ton of money on haiti
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They got free shit, right? Yeah, there's there's so many things that just look shitty about that
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Even though the system didn't appear to have the ability to be rigged in some particular way
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Just just like you were saying the optics would be a disaster
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It would be a complete mess and I suspect that that's part of the uh reason why it never moved forward. Yeah
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Yeah, now alex is not recognizing or maybe he doesn't even know or whatever
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Uh that it's not moving forward. This is this is pretty much dead in the water by this point in late july
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I mean what's great about it though is that it does have that kind of evil
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Global policy that you're looking for if you are fighting against the globalists, you know, like that's so great
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That's such a super villain ass plot. It's well it it's not but it looks like it
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Well, I mean it looks like callous as hell it is it is
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I think what makes it super villain esque to me is more that there are like a million better ways to do the thing
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That you're trying to achieve by setting this evil thing up
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You know, like I understand that
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The goal you have you would hope that there would be a way for like people who have expert opinions to have some sort of
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conglomerated, uh, like
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Intelligence that they put together, right?
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That doesn't involve putting 100 bucks on somebody's death
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But the reason that that seems to be like a worthwhile thing is because then there's incentive for them not to just make random
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Understand completely like I get the thought process there
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But again, the goal you're attempting to achieve can be achieved without doing those evil things. Sure
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Sure
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And this is where we dovetail back into that idea about darpa having like these risky weird ideas that sometimes are like that
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That's terrible. We can't do science right when you're saying that there's like a better way to do this
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That's probably taken as granted. Yeah, no, that's their idea. This is a possibility. What about this? Maybe this would work
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Yeah, so anyway, it didn't work and it didn't happen
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um, but
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Alex gets to defining the new world order in this next clip. You'll notice that satan is missing
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What is
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What is the new world order taking notes? Well, it is a
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ancient
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society a
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university
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of confidence men of king rats of
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con artists
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And they take all the skills of the carnival barker
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the strategy of an alexander the great or julius caesar
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the
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vitriolic
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mass mind control of an adolf hitler
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The ruthless cunning of a joseph stalin you stopped taking notes the wanton bloodthirsty nature of a pole
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hot
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ginggis con
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mixed with the advertisement pitch men and madison avenue
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psychiatrist and psychologist rolled into a computerized system
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of of testing
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probabilities
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overlaid with university sociologists
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and anthropologists
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integrated and tested by mass focus groups
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And that's the new world order a criminal society owning the dominant media
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conditioning you selling you
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a change in the society a shift to the destruction of the family
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the annihilation of the second amendment
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The termination of private property and sovereignty and borders and it's their own
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stated goals
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No, satan
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No, no
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It also seems pretty different than like how you describe things. I mean, that's not even that's not even like
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World economic forum stuff. That's just like a bunch of like the world economic forum could conceivably be mixed up in there
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But certainly, you know, that's class Schwab's name's not coming up. No, no, and it's an ancient university of con artists
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Hell yeah, but in what world is this a new world order?
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It's just the order. Yeah. Yeah, there's no there's nothing new about it
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I think there's some similarities to how he describes things in the present day, but there's like foundational differences
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Yeah, as he's telling it in 2003 though that makes total sense kind of like if he wants to pitch this
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He's an extreme right-wing ideologue. So he's railing against this new world order
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He's imagined to attack and help explain social progress to his audience
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It's not that society decided that living by rigid christian doctrine is not fair to people who aren't christian
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It's it's not that society realized that members of minority groups deserved equal rights
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These things are just the new world order tricking people
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They're lying to you
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They're con artists. Yes, it is wise to choose as your main enemy the thing you embody the most
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Because you're the most familiar with it, you know, like oh this ancient university of con arts. I know how they think, you know
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I know how they because because I went to an ancient university of artistry. Well, because he's a con artist. Okay
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Yeah
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It's really critical that alex be able to present
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Uh people having different politics to him in this kind of fashion as they're being tricked because the audience needs to be reassured that
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They're right. It's really hard to make a coherent argument for a lot of alex's political positions
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So his audience probably couldn't handle that kind of lifting and instead of requiring to do them to do that
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You can create an overpowered bogeyman who's manipulating everyone who disagrees with them into having the positions that they have
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You don't even need to come up with a reason to think they're wrong because the truth of your position is self-evident
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There's just some evil cabal of king rats
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From an ancient university trick them into thinking that it's great. It's a it's a cheat
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Why would I argue with you if you're coming to me having been tricked by these people now?
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Obviously one downside of that is when I do argue with you
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I have to then remember that I have a position as well instead of just ignoring yours
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And if I were to do that, oh boy, I would remember that I do not have a very good position at all
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Well, your position is counter to that of the king rat
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uh, uh truth university con artist truth, and that's
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No good. Great. So alex, like I said, most of this episode is him talking about this policy analysis market that uh,
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Does doesn't doesn't exist existing. Oh, but he has a lot of fears about it
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Uh, and one of them is that terrorists could bet on their own terrorist acts. That's that's fucking pete rose
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So you just give up and go I don't care anymore. I'm going to the golf course
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And when you do that they win folks
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They have come out and they have announced
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betting private betting
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On what type of terrorist attacks going to take place and and of course a bunch of people pointed out
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That this is quote insane. This is crazy. How could you be doing this? They're going ahead with it
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No, they're not because terrorists will blow stuff up
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And then make money off the put options off betting on it beforehand
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Betting on it beforehand. You're the first person to think of that
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I mean, let's say you were going to remote control with your mobile trucks that you've had for 30 years
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A couple of jets into the world trade centers
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uh, and let's just say you had the power to order norad to stand down and shut down and
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As a smokescreen you could say it was a drill that morning of uh, flying hijacked jet airliners into buildings
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You could tell everybody it was just a drill stand down for an hour and a half as the
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Transponders had been turned off normally would have scrambled fleets of f-16s
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And let's just say you knew this was going to happen a week before why you could put put options
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Of course, you'd put record put options on american and united
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So there's a couple problems with what alex is suggesting here
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The first is that terrorists would not have access to this betting market that darpa had proposed
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I don't understand why wouldn't terrorists be able to go into the darpa market
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That would be a very bizarre notion to allow some kind of terrorist insider trading. Hey, listen, come on
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Get in here. Come on
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The second problem is that alex is seemingly suggesting that
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100 bets in a very limited betting pool would be lucrative enough to be a motive for someone within our government to carry out
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911 record put options
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Well, that's actually about something else and we'll get to that in a second
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All right
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But alex's idea just seems incredibly stupid and his next thought almost entirely illustrates why
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There's already a ton of futures markets that you can make much larger put or call options on
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So if you actually were acting with some kind of foreknowledge of a coming terrorist attack
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You could do exactly the thing. Alex is already ranting about you would do it in the regular stock market
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Where people would give you lots of money afterwards also just as a reminder alex believes as a matter of definitive fact
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That the planes at 911 were remote controlled at this point, which i'm sure he would not defend nowadays if pressed on it
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Although i'd be interested in having rogan ask him about it. Yeah. Yeah, that would be fun
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So about that like record put options he's talking about a conspiracy about insider trading
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Regarding united and american airlines prior to 9 11
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And so there were actually some trading patterns in united and american stock that seemed suspicious in the days prior
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To the attack and alex has decided just to report that this was people who knew that 9 11 was coming
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And they were trying to profit off that for knowledge
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Yeah, one major question had to do with irregular purchases on september 6th and 10th
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The 9 11 commission investigated the actual trades that were made which constituted an unusually high load of put options
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And found that this was the result of quote a single us based
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Institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al-qaeda purchasing 95 of the united puts on
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Uh, september 6th as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115 000 shares of american on september 10th
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Highly suspicious trading on its face yet further investigation has revealed that the trading had no connection to 9 11, right?
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Right, right. So that kind of explains that stuff, right?
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Additionally a us-based options trading newsletter had recommended people trade on american in a letter that they sent to subscribers
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On september 9th, which added to the irregularity of trade volume on september 10th
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As with almost everything alex uses as proof of his conspiracy theories
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He has the appearance of something suspicious and that's about it
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He never takes the time to consider alternative explanations and when information comes out that calls his conclusions into question
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He ignores it and he pretends that he's been right all along when in fact he's just been making shit up
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Yeah
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If someone did have foreknowledge of a coming terrorist attack there are financial mechanisms that already exist
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That they could try to exploit to profit from that knowledge
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However, they're likely going to leave some kind of a trail and that could be a problem later
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Well when things are analyzed now you would say that you would say that but we do have very obvious
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Recent evidence that suggests as long as you're a senator you can do that shit all day
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In public and everybody will know it's you and you'll walk away scot-free with more millions than you had yesterday
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There are some issues. Well, I mean that whole pandemic thing made it a little bit too obvious. I I I do
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I do agree that there are are some real problems there that need to be ironed out
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And i'm not going to go so far as to say, uh, hey you'd get you'd definitely get
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Get caught and in trouble if you know these things. Nope, but I do think that if you were a terrorist
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If you were a terrorist, I don't think you'd get away with it
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And the the notion that you could do that kind of insider trading stuff within this proposed policy analysis market
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Is just nonsense the the problem
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Mainly I have with the argument is that it would be almost impossible
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To make it easier to inside trade anywhere other than the current stock market that we have right now
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Mm-hmm. Why would the military make something that would be easier to cheat on than the thing that they've made
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So available to cheat on it's it's in some ways if you're looking to
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profit off
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insider information that you may have
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It's a redundancy to create something like absurd
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Uh also just because it's fun the day before this episode two democratic senators
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Ron Wyden and Byron Dorgan held a press conference leading opposition against the creation of this policy analysis market
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Right, this ultimately led to the project being abandoned
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So it's important to recognize that alex only knows about this story because democrats and congress spoke out against it
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And the driving force for it not coming into existence was opposition that started in left-wing political circles, right?
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So the devil didn't want it to exist, right? So maybe alex should be supporting so alex should be supporting it. Oh
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Man, oh, it's crazy. Almost like his politics are incoherent. It doesn't think it does
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It's almost like they don't even matter, right? So alex just believes that with the 911, uh,
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United and american insider trading that he believes happened. Yeah, uh, that's proof that uh,
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Like really reinforces his conspiracy about this new proposal
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And I guarantee you they said look
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We it came out in the news. We did insider trading top government people did cia did on united american
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Why not just institutionalize and do it right in front of them? They'll buy anything
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So this is how alex builds fantasy stories out of his bad information base
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He's decided that he's proven the people in the cia did insider trading on american and united before 9 11 though
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He hasn't proven that at all
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He has a couple of suspicious facts that he can point to which he's decided on an explanation for with no evidence
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As it turns out his explanation was wrong
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But he's used that incorrect explanation to create a background for this new conspiracy about the policy analysis market
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Because these folks got away with insider trading on 9 11, which they didn't they decided to institutionalize that insider trading through this market
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Which they weren't doing this is an important dynamic in alex's conspiracies
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Oftentimes the things he's saying are built on multiple levels of non-existent foundation
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I think this is an underappreciated style of how alex is often wrong
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He's like three levels deep into being wrong and that's just acceptable on his show because the things he make up
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Makes up they appeal to the audience's emotional needs. Yeah, he reminds me of uh, what douglas adams said about uh,
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What's the name of the corporation? I can't remember but it is that their superficial design flaws
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Uh make you so angry that they cover over their fundamental design flaws. So you forget
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You're so mad about all the things that they're shitty at you forget why you're you should be mad at how deeply shitty it is
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You know, it's it's almost like a smokescreen like he's wrong in so many superficial ways. You you're like, oh well
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I've got that so you don't even dig deeper to find out how he's wrong in like 16 different ways
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yeah, and I think in some ways that kind of uh describes a lot of the
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a lot of the the sort of public perception of alex's show like there's a lot of like very surface level things that are
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Obviously infuriating. Yeah, and
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That takes up a lot of the criticism all of your space. Yeah, uh as opposed to recognizing that there is a internal
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uh
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Just foundational problem with the things that uh, he reports and expresses and basically how he does his show
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Yeah, that is sometimes missed exactly
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um
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So alex has a clip that he describes from hardball
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I don't think this happened
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And of course gary hart has already said at the cfr that cleveland dallas and denver
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So I guess go place your bets in the next year. They're going to get hit
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By the way, he he said new york was going to get hit
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He he started laughing on hardball three months before 9-1-1. He said tall tall buildings tall, you know
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And first matthew started lying and rudman hit hart in the arm with his elbow and it was a moment of sharing in a sick fashion
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Right out in front of you
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I tell you it's so sick
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I can't find the actual video of this claimed hardball appearance
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But I do know that after 9-11 hart did make appearances with chris matthews discussing a paper
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He released in january 2001 called the road map for national security
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It was a product of a committee that he co-chaired with warren rudman
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And the conclusion that they came to was that we weren't prepared at all for the possibility of an attack within the united states
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They were clearly wrong. Uh-huh. Hart was very public about his concerns prior to 9-11
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So I don't exclude the possibility that he went on hardball and discussed this but I don't believe at all alex's interpretation of this
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Yeah, um, I would be interested in seeing
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um
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That'd be that'd be crazy. It'd be like if uh, somebody at the cdc was like, ah, we're not ready for a pandemic be nuts
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Be nuts something like that all of them what every single one of them since uh since before we were born. Yeah
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Yeah, that's probably proof that they were gonna just cause a pain. It's always their fault. Yep
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So alex says, uh, so earlier we heard him talking about the new world order and the devil wasn't involved
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But now get this he's back in the devil might be involved
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Ooh, because I know power corrupts and absolute power corrupts
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Absolutely, and I know jesus christ said that the governments of the world are held under the sway of the dark one
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And his children so that still could come off as kind of metaphorical but it's pretty close
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It's interesting though it, you know, it's an example of him hinting
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That he's fighting the literal devil. Yeah. Also alex didn't give a citation for this in the bible
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So i'm gonna have to assume that he's referring to luke chapter four where jesus is tempted in the wilderness
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verses five through seven say quote
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And the devil taking him into a high mountain showed to him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time
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And the devil said unto him all this power will I give thee and the glory of them for that is delivered unto me
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And to whomsoever I will uh, give it if thou therefore it will will worship me all shall be thine
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That's all good and well
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But this is a naive and shallow interpretation of that passage to conclude that the devil actually has control of all these kingdoms
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You have to remember the characters at play here and that the number one trait ascribed to the devil is that he's a liar. Oh
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That's right
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According to john chapter 8 verse 44 quote when he lies he speaks his native language for he is a liar and the father of lies
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Oh, that would be what he would do by believing that the devil controls all these governments
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Alex is buying into the devil's lie that he was using to try to tempt jesus into worshipping him
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Alex is entirely missing the point of this verse and that misinterpretation seems to actually be kind of a central cornerstone of his worldview because
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outside of that stuff
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Jesus seems pretty okay with governments
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well, I mean frankly in in alex's mind I feel like alex if he were in jesus's situation would be like
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Oh, sweet. I'll take it and then devil the devil would be like, haha. I didn't actually have it
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He's like you told me you had it. Are you telling me that you lied to me? What?
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the devil
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That's not something you do, but we had a thing man. I signed everything in blood and shit
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You did that and there's an ironic twist
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Typically the devil is straight up. Uh
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, are you telling me that when I got everything I wished for perhaps I should have been more careful
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About what it was that it was I was with of all the rules of the universe the globalists have to tell you what they're doing
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In advance. Yep, and the devil has to operate in good faith. Obviously, obviously
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These are just the truth. These are just the way you view the world man
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I really think it's weird to take the devil at face value every time especially considering like
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Every single thing the devil does in any
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Context of biblical stories or anything that even extra biblical stories. Yeah involves a lie. Yeah
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I mean, you know, that's what's funnier about that is that that reminds me more of the fucking chaos magician who is like
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Well, you know that the devil is in control over all the earth and all that stuff and you're like
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Wait, oh shit
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Alex is a chaos magician. Probably not fuck. He's he's definitely weird. Yeah
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So Alex goes to some calls and he gets some bad news from a caller about this DARPA project policy analysis market
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John in England, go ahead. You're on the air. Hi there Alex. Guess what? They've already cancelled it
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BBC news is reporting that the fence again have already cancelled this ridiculous game
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That means it'll be doubled in funding within one month guaranteed as they're following past
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Guaranteed as they're following past parameters and patterns
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This is a bit embarrassing. That's the way to do it as on the one hand
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This caller is telling Alex that the thing that he's been yelling about for like an hour doesn't exist anymore
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So none of that really meant anything
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but on the other hand
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It's even worse because the way Alex tries to salvage some kind of meaning out of his show is to predict that the program will
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Be back with doubled funding within a month. He guarantees it
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This didn't happen and it goes down in history as just one of the million examples of predictions that Alex has gotten wrong
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While pretending that his predictions are based off a pattern
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Uh that his imaginary enemies engage in and he's right 95% of the fucking time Alex that thing you said was gonna happen
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It's not even close to happening. That means it's gonna double happen
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I guarantee it. Yep
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Cool, good work. So another thing Alex is wrong about. Yeah, he continues to be wrong about dr. David Kelly
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Oh weapons inspector who uh, uh took his own life recently
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Now, is it going to take 21 years for them to figure out go back and exhume David Kelly's body and maybe find out he didn't
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Slash his wrist or well within within eight hours of finding him. They said it's official
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It's a suicide no foul play. We're not investigating and the guy's sending emails around saying I'm gonna get my good name back
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I can't wait to get back to Iraq and I mean they obviously killed Kelly talks about dark actors
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I mean dark actors around him people mistreating him threatening him
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Well, I want to say it on the record. I will never commit suicide
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And I have been threatened by dark actors and and and if they're gonna kill me
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They're gonna have to say they killed me or some carjacker did it's not going to be Alex Jones committed suicide
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Alex, do you think anyone who cuts their wrist would ever lie face down because I can't see that likely
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Well, it's obvious what they did they grabbed him
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Shot him up with a hypo full of barbiturates threw the pills out slid his wrist laid him out there
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waited till he was dead and left and
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Quite simply it stinks and it stinks like just about everything else going on right now
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Uh, hey, what type of extremists are you? So Alex has created a full-on story
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Uh based on nothing, which is fun. Yeah, uh disrespectful a little bit
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Yeah, also Alex has been threatened by dark actors dark actors Vincent Price. What are you talking about?
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Absolutely the house on haunted hill
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Who's threatening you?
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Alex I will come for you
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bullshit
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So Alex brings in uh, Michael Chosidovsky
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And uh, they get to talking about uh, the policy analysis market. I wonder if
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Could pronounce Michael
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I think it would be tough. I think it's tough for Alex to because he says Chosidovsky
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Uh-huh, but I think there's a v in there. Oh, I think it's Chosidovsky
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Chosidovsky, but I mean it's close. Anyway, here's they've to say about Pam
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And they're going to bet on what u.s
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City is going to get hit by north korea and then they get the money if we do get hit
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Why do you think they announced this are they totally delusional and now on nero or caligula like power trips of their professor?
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Well, I I think they've announced it because they want to have
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People invest in this venture in other words people, you know people on on main street
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USA who say wow i'm going to put my savings into this
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What obviously people who are investing in this who have no inside knowledge of when and where these?
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Political assassinations and and war plans are going to occur
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Uh will of course lose their lifetime savings. That is
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But they have to they have to make a public announcement so that they can start having people investing that's such a bizarre
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Interpretation of this like first of all, I mean it never ends up happening
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But it never was designed to be something for like public betting because that would ruin the intelligence
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Value of the whole point of it. Yeah, you'd again have just random ass guesses. Yeah
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Or taking like long bets like oh, this is a long shot, but maybe i'll do it again
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Yeah, it's uh, that's dumb. They clearly don't know what they're talking about. I mean and and also let's not mince words
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If this guy was saying something alex didn't like you would do a very disrespectful impression of him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
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I mean
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God the idea that the he's like, okay
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Well, the first thing I see here is that obviously normal people are going to bet their life savings on whether or not
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Normal people are going to bet their life savings on whether or not say
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Steve pochenik murders another aldo morrow. You're gonna lose the farm and then they've got nothing
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It's gonna be like it's like though. It's like this is about ruining the middle class
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Don't you understand what it's like if uh, when archduke ferdinand got assassinated
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It did everybody everybody went broke like immediately the markets crashed
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Yeah, they were like that was we we bet all our money on him leaving. Yeah, everyone was very bullish on the ottoman empire
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Exactly. They were like, oh, they're gonna stick around forever
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Nope
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Uh, yeah, so I think that's a little silly and it sets the tone of like, yeah, maybe you guys aren't really
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Discussing things in in reality. Yeah, and turns out, uh, josidowski also thinks that uh, david kelly was murdered
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I think of course the the the issue of david kelly's, uh,
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uh
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so-called suicide
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Which uh is yet to be established
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uh points to uh
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uh
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A much broader, uh issue. It's it's it's it may well also be a political assassination
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and uh
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and uh
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It's clear that uh, david kelly
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Uh had information which uh, it's made public
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Uh in a in a british parliamentary committee could of course
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Lead to the to the downfall of of tony blair's government. Yeah, so strong insinuations
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He was murdered to silence him from taking down tony blair. Yeah. All right, whatever makes sense
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Um this this next clip. I don't really think that it's you know, super hard-hitting
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But I think it illustrates, uh a point that I want to drive home
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Do you see my concern with how they are are overtly?
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Lying now and doing corrupt things and not caring
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That shows and and you're a professor, you know of history and political science
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That shows kind of the delusional thing we've seen with stalin and and hitler or caligula
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I mean, do you expect bush to marry?
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Uh his horse or something in the near future. I mean have we reached that type of roman emperor insanity?
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Because i'm seeing a lot of signs of that
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Well, you know, I I for one don't believe that bush is the ultimate power behind this. Uh, this project
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Oh, yeah, he's obviously a puppet. Yeah, he is a puppet. So there's a couple couple important points here
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Yeah
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The first is that no matter what's happening at any point in time and no matter what happened prior
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Alex will always believe that the globalists are becoming so much more open in their treachery
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There's so much more evil than they were before it didn't used to be like this just yesterday
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Just yesterday. They were less evil than they are today. I just everything crystallized for me last night. I was up for
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67,000 hours straight. Yeah, this is to create the appearance of immediacy in the audience taking advantage of their recency bias
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This is the same reason that in the present day alex calls everything that happens the globalists main attack
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On one level it's to keep people excited and engaged
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But it also serves another purpose and that's to distract people from the things you've recently been wrong about
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The other thing I think is illustrated by this clip is how easily alex goes off message
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He's trying to play that game of like the globalists are really wilding out this time
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He and he forgets that he's not supposed to think the push is actually in charge and a tyrant
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So he starts painting him his caligula
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Then chasidowski has to come in and remind him that there's supposed to be an evil cabal in charge of things
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There isn't like an actual public facing tyrant buddy. Stick to the script. Let's go
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He just forgets his own mythology at times when it starts feeling good to uh to paint things in a certain way
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I mean, it's more exciting to start talking about bush as a caligula. That's a great day. Totally. That's a great day
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You'd be like hey bush fucked a horse today. Now what's going on bringing up marrying a horse is always good. Always fun
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Yeah, yeah
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So I think I think those are some uh important things to recognize about alex that no matter what period of time you're in
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The globalists are really doing it this time. Yeah. Oh, they're coming for us
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The game has holy shit. The worm has turned. I remember when I was a kid the globalists
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They were at least polite about how yeah, you know, but now they're just flaunting it in our faces before they would hide it
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But now no, oh man, you never used to see people spit on the sidewalk
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Now you see it all the time cigarette butts. Oh, it's a nightmare
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Yeah, so chasidowski, uh in this next clip kind of reveals something that I think is a way into understanding
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uh
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What his his shit is all about
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They're saying that they want to go ahead and invade north korea
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Uh, it's obvious professor. They're trying to escalate north korea into making a first move
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Just like they have the 10-part plan to get the japanese to attack us comments 10 parts
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Well, absolutely and there again, I think uh, the the whole question of north korea what was behind this whether it was
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but if there was a whole there was a there was an agreement which was signed between uh,
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between the two governments
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uh, and in fact, uh, it's not north korea, which is really uh,
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A threat to to world security or to security in the korean peninsula is the united states
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That's really where you see some of the tendencies of chasidowski
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His website paints itself as an anti-globalization research outlet, but the larger reality is that they're just kind of anti-us
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It's all good and well to have robust criticisms of the us and our foreign policy past and present
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But it's another thing to make wide-ranging and exaggerated claims about the united states
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While giving a pass to other countries that are doing fairly similar things or you know worse. Yeah
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For instance global research was a major player in spreading russian-based propaganda both
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uh in the sphere of pushing pro-asad narratives regarding russia's involvement in syria and in terms of the flow of every
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Conspiracy involving hillary in the 2016 election, of course
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They do basically the same kind of thing alex does which is to say that they take
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Outlandish stuff and then give it a slick presentation that allows it to be more easily disseminated to unsuspecting viewers
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They give the appearance of credibility and research to conspiracy bullshit
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To give you some kind of idea of the content. They're putting out a 2020 state department investigation found quote
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global research published or republished seven authors attributed by facebook to be false online personas
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Created by the main directorate of the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation
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Popularly known as the gru. All right, so that's kind of sloppy nonsense that's going on there
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That's set. They published seven authors who didn't exist a total of over
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180 articles by these fake people that were just russian intelligence assets using fake names. Wow
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That's a win. That's a win
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Yeah
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staying on the russia tip
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Shostadovsky recently was making the rounds blaming the united states for russia invading ukraine because that's kind of his constant drumbeat, right?
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Beyond that, uh global research had some really incredibly shitty content over the years
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Recently in 2020 they published an article titled china's coronavirus a shocking update. Did the virus originate in the united states?
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This article was tweeted out by the spokesperson for the chinese foreign ministry
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And though it's not based on any actual true information
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It became part of a large pr campaign and conspiracy theory against the united states. Of course
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now there is a little bit of a caveat that should be given and that is that
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In the larger picture of global research's website
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They also do cover a lot of stories that relate to countries that are often ignored by what you might call the mainstream media
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But there's a lot of other independent outlets that do that too and don't also traffic and rank information misinformation, right?
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Right, right, right when the content of a website is so shoddily produced and has such a clear slant
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Even if they do have coverage of issues relating to things like, you know, latin american countries that are often, you know neglected
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It's pretty hard to trust that the reporting that you're getting is worth it and you should probably look somewhere else
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That's what I would say. Yeah, but I do think it's worth like bringing up like yeah, you know
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There are some things they might they might raise some issues sure that like are worth
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Knowing about but you'd get better information about those issues elsewhere, right?
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Yeah, yeah. Uh, overall chasidovsky and global research are conspiracy peddlers that are in the business of presenting an anti-us and anti-western perspective
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Uh as a anti-globalization message, right? That's the sort of sleight of hand that's being engaged in here
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And if I had to guess why chasidovsky isn't on infowars anymore, this is why
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Like he and alex appeared to be on the same page and have heavy overlap, but they're actually polar opposites
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Like he's a strongly opposed to the west right? Right, right
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Right, right. He would not be fetishizes the way he is not stoked about americana
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Nor does he feel that american lore is a good acceptable history. Probably not. Yeah, probably not
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Yeah, I think that's a fundamental difference between them and maybe it took years for them to figure that out
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Right because he's he's a pretty
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He's a fixture in a number of like later years of alex's show. He's a pretty regular guest sooner or later
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They got to the point where alex was like man. I love america and he's like, you know, america's evil, right?
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And he's like get off my fucking show shit. Yeah
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Um, so the two of them, uh start talking a little bit about uh, conspiracies about saddam's kids
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Sure, and uh the circumstances surrounding that and uh, here's here's where we're at professor chasidovsky
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You know you talk about why do they need helicopters and tanks and hundreds of troops?
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Well, because the troops aren't bad. The helicopter pilots aren't bad. They're told saddam's sons are in there
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They've got to do that to kill and disfigure whatever patsy is inside
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So they can then send in the intelligence agency to come out dress up the burnt corpse and say oh look, it's the brothers
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Regardless of it is or isn't so we know that's why they did this
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Whereas they could have just sent in a delta force team to wipe these guys out and shoot them and then bring them out
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This is all good fun
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But alex is just making stuff up out of his imagination to try to justify his incorrect conclusion that the killer
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That the killing of saddam's son was sons was faked. Right, right
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This is one of those telltale arguments that people who aren't acting with good will will make
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He's saying that they only sent in helicopters and tanks
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So they would be able to disfigure these bodies enough to be able to claim that they were saddam's sons
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Leaving aside that subsequent tests of dental records and past surgeries confirmed that they were saddam's sons and alex is totally wrong
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That's his theory that he's running with
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Now let's imagine a scenario where some troops just went in to try to capture or kill them and they ended up in a bad situation
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Let's imagine that maybe a couple of soldiers were killed and that saddam's kids got away
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In that situation you could easily come up with how that would be covered in alex's show
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You'd have the option of saying that the military
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Should have sent in tanks and helicopters and that they didn't because they secretly wanted saddam's kids to get away, right?
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They're all in it together. They're in belarus
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That's the way there are other options of how alex could go with it. But the point is that with this narrative
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He has you coming and going there isn't an option that he can't turn into some kind of a conspiracy
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So you kind of just have to ignore his point
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It's not really that weird that they sent in tanks and helicopters and alex doesn't even actually think that
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He just knows that pretending that he thinks it's weird works to strengthen the conspiracy that he has that the kids aren't really dead
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So he goes with that. Yeah, it's convenience. Yeah. Yeah
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yeah, it is, uh, it's always great to
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Listen to uh, and then bang your head against a wall when people are making bad faith arguments that they don't even believe
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True true, but that's our job. Yeah, it is our job. That's true. That's why I have
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Replacement walls for you over there. I've screamed a few down. That's true. You're uh, you have like
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Psionic screams like banshee. I am I am essentially banshee from mortal combat
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Mm-hmm. So one last clip here from the uh, 29th
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And it's chasidosky talking about his relationship with headlines
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It's a little different than alex's but maybe there's some similarities
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I think it's it's it's the it's the media
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Which is actually misleading people because the headlines are misleading the headlines are lies
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And if you want to know the truth, you have to read between the lines between the headlines
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You have to go to official documents. You have to go on the internet and essentially there's a campaign of disinformation
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Which is uh, which is using the news chain, uh to mislead people and they know
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They know that we aren't against the new world order. Let me give you an example of something
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I even got sucked into briefly big headline the feds want to tag all animals and tax them
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And track them under homeland security. Well, I saw ridge say that
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That and I saw ridge push that a year ago. I know they have a plan to do that
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But then the feds come out and announce it
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Uh, but really it's a plan to counter foreign beef
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And other foods, uh to help our markets so they take a real story
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Overlay it with a false one to use our energies to actually defeat something good
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Uh, it's very sophisticated
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Well, absolutely. So I agree with jostofsky sort of uh that you do have to read past headlines
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But I don't think that he's in the right place to be giving that advice like infowars is a headline central
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I do take issue with it what he probably means by reading between the lines because for alex that just means
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Making things up which I don't think is a good part of news consumption
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Also, that story alex is telling is completely bizarre
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Let me track his line of thought and then explain what I think is probably going on here
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Okay. Okay. Thank you. So alex says that tom ridge and homeland security were going to tag
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Tax and trace all livestock all of them and he saw a big headline about it huge now in reality
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This was a campaign that would support domestic beef production
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But these globalists knew that alex and his community were so against the new world order
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That if they reported it in headlines about how it was about taxing and tracing all the livestock
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Alex and his friends would be against it and they'd lead a charge to oppose the plan
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Which is what the globalists wanted to begin with. They wanted this good thing to be defeated right as opposed to just not
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Proposing it right or something. Well, if I understand correctly alex is not realizing that what he's saying
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Is that we are so fucking predictable?
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They know that if they put a headline on something we won't read the article and we'll just get mad immediately
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Yep, and he's telling on himself a little bit. He's saying that like, oh man, they're so sophisticated as opposed to like
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Oh, we're simple dumb dogs. They're so sophisticated that they can trick us with shiny things in front of our faces
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They can hold up these jangly keys and we'll be like, oh are those stars? It's not fair. It's oh, how can we fight back?
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So here's what I'm pretty sure actually happened
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Okay
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In the executive order that bush signed forming the department of homeland security one of the responsibilities of the office was to quote
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Coordinate efforts to protect united states livestock agriculture and systems for the provision of water and food for human use
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and consumption from terrorist attacks
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Because alex only reads sensational ass right-wing conspiracy blogs
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I'm sure he saw a headline that reported that is the homeland security department announcing that they're going to tag
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Tags and trace all livestock. So that was the conclusion that he came to without looking any deeper into the subject
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Alex repeated this narrative to his audience and tried to rally opposition to the protection of our livestock and agricultural systems from the threat of disruption
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Then at some point alex must have realized that he was wrong. So in order to save face
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And not have to admit that he's wrong and he's an idiot
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He pretended that the initial headline he read was actually a globalist plot to trick him
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You know, they knew that he was opposed to the new world order
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So they planted that headline so he would oppose a good thing and further the globalist's master plan, right?
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Right, right
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There's something so on brand about this like alex can admit that he's wrong about something but only when the reason he's wrong
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Is that because there was a conspiracy against him to make him wrong?
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I know but he doesn't realize that this makes him even more of a bumbling dope in the story
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It does and instead of him just well if you're paying attention, well, yeah
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yeah, I mean instead of him just having being a somebody who reacted too quickly and who had a
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And who just threw something out there without thinking about it knee-jerk idiot instead
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He's not only a knee-jerk idiot
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But he's implied that his pattern of behavior is so complete and predictable
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And and one-dimensional right that it can be taken advantage of with zero effort on their part whatsoever
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Instead of him making a mistake. This is him being exploited because the only thing he does is make mistakes. Yep
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so, um
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The show does go on and chossidovsky is on for the rest of the show and they take some calls
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and but things kind of get derailed by a caller who's like
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Talking about how hey, we always talk about what the united states is doing overseas and we know that's bad
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But why don't you give it up for the people who are trying to change things here?
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And he keeps sort of hinting. I think he's talking about like militia right-wing terrorist type folks
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I think that's what he's talking about. Yeah, because he's being really insinuating
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And alex is really weird about it as opposed to getting mad at him
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I think alex can tell that's what he's signaling to. Yeah
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Yeah, I would have clips of it because it's very bizarre
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But it goes on for fucking ever and it never really materializes into anything
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You gotta care about what the people here are doing. Okay, see you gotta care about okay
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See
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Okay, man, see
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It might not be far off from that. Yeah, but it's really bizarre and it goes on quite a while
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So we jump to the 30th and alex had chasidovsky on the 29th and he's got another exciting guest also with a name
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Uh, that's fun on this episode
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Coming up in the next hour. We've got the founder and the head of the recall governor davis movement
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That was so successful in getting the 1.6
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plus million signatures and the
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Government was only able to throw out 300,000 of those
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Those
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Almost double the number that they needed to get the recalls started were
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completed that is the signatures
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and so now
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It moves into the rest of the process and the candidates prepare to
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Square off and to find out who the new governor is going to be
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Whether it's going to be a democrat or a neo-con like arnold schwarzenegger
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Or will it be one of the more conservative?
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members of their legislature
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We'll find out from the folks that started it all
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in the next hour and this is important even if you don't live in california because
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california is a globalist test state a model state or
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All the horrible systems they want to make
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mainstream in this country
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It's the system
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And that's why everybody hates more than new york more than boston more than florida even more than texas or michigan or colorada
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Which are also model states for the new world order what states aren't they're putting in?
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So the guy's name is howard kolugin howard kolugin spoiler alert. All right
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So yeah, we got the guy who uh started a group that was uh gathering signatures to get gray davis recalled
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He had some great bizarre guests on these these two days. I'm very excited
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So the first thing that jumps out to me in this clip, uh, is that alex just described every place
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He doesn't like basically is where the globalists are testing their system out and where he lives sure
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But he has some problems with austin of course
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Like it's these states he doesn't like like california and new york
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But his list is a little weird since it also includes boston which isn't a state
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Well also texas which as you pointed out is where he lives and isn't a democrat area, but he would have rather have said
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Massachusetts and austin instead of texas and boston true. Yeah, they rhyme so that might have slipped him up that does happen
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It seems to me that what alex is driving at is that every state including boston is a globalist testing ground. Yeah, basically
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Yeah in the present day alex has moved that largely to other countries
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Typically china is the place where globalists are testing things because they have a more repressive government and they aren't russia
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So alex can use the image of their government to scare his audience into thinking that's what the globalists have planned for them
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Right periodically whenever something catches on in, you know, right-wing media circles
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He'll add other countries to the list of places that are globalist testing grounds
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for instance
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When the trucker convoys were going on in canada canada turned out to be like the biggest place where globalists are testing things
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It's the number one testing ground and that's why they were there
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Yep, and when there were a lot of stories about covet protests in australia
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It just so happened that that was actually where the globalists did their trial runs of tyranny
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They've got a lot of trials going on simultaneously. Yeah everywhere. In fact, it's almost impossible to imagine how they organize everything
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Maybe the earth is just they use asana
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uh
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I don't know what that is, but i've seen commercials on youtube videos
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So this is just another feature of alex's presentation that's meant to sound deep and meaningful
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But it's actually just him talking shit
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That said in 2003 he's saying that these globalists are trying things out in states and also boston
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So I want to take a moment to point out that this is exactly what alex believes should be happening
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According to his version of federalism. The states are basically laboratories where policies can be tested to see if they work
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That's a huge part of the thrust behind states rights
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The idea that if a state wants to experiment with a particular policy the people can vote to do that more easily than they could
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If it were something that was being done on a federal level and if there's something that goes really wrong with the policy
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It's confined to that state. It doesn't involve everybody in the country
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The results could then be evaluated and other states be able to decide if they wanted to try it out, too
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Yeah
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If I were to pretend that alex's enemies were real and he's talking about something other than just left-leaning policies like welfare and anti-discrimination
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Laws his point is still self-defeating
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According to his own philosophy these states should be testing out policies
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So people can see if they work like for example how colorado legalized weed and then in the past six years
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They've brought in more than 1.6 billion additional dollars in tax revenue
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Millions of which have gone to affordable housing dealing with the opioid crisis and improving schools both from a construction and from a program standpoint
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It's a test that seems to have worked seems to yeah
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Alex believes that the states should be the place where political experiments happen
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Except when those experiments are things that he doesn't like right and then it's the globalists who are doing a testing ground for tyranny
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And it is a good place to test things. Uh, but if they
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Are if like another state is testing something that you don't want
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Then you should orchestrate a decades-long campaign to overthrow the supreme court take it over and then insist upon
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Controlling things everywhere that you don't have control over much like, uh making tax revenues from weed. Uh, that seems to have worked
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Yeah, it does seem to have worked. It does seem to so alex has a story that he missed
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Uh yesterday and uh, i'll tell you he doesn't get in depth on it, but he's pretty gross
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I didn't even talk about this yesterday. I should have but I got uh,
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Diverted off into other important issues public gay high school to open in new york city
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So now it's uh about your sexual
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Orientation that's what the schools are about. It's about black studies and homosexual studies and
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In new world order studies. It's not about reading writing and arithmetic. It's about vulcanizing america
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This is being done by design
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Imagine starting a school and calling it the heterosexual school. I didn't know school was about sex
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Much less, uh what the homosexuals are up to so wow. Oh boy. That's weird. That is very weird
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So this is about harvey milk high school
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Which was announced in 2002 as an alternative school that would cater to lgbtq students in new york city
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Who are having difficulties in their public school settings due to things like bullying, right?
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I think it's kind of natural to have some initial reaction to something like this and
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Think that maybe this isn't the right solution to the problem
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Like if bullying is the problem then stopping the bullying seems like the thing to do
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As opposed to creating a new public school for the students to go to but that's not as easy as we would like it
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To be stopping bullying is hard. Yes
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So what if we did the point the thing where we just moved you out of the situation sure
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I mean, I I think that it's a complicated conversation sure. I don't
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Yeah, I don't know but according to the american educational research association as many as one in three lgbtq
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High school students ends up dropping out while the national average is a eight percent dropout rate
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And quote lgbtq students report that their main reason for dropping out of high school is constant bullying and harassment from other students, right?
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So this does seem like
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A possible solution to this problem how in god's name could they do this school is not about sex
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That's why whenever we have all male schools and all female schools. That is okay
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But if there are different orientations that maybe don't apply in those situations, that's evil
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Well, actually, you know what? I don't know if i've ever heard alex talk about whether or not
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All male or all female schools are okay
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I think you would be totally fine with it if they're private schools
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But I don't know what he would think if it was public
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And I don't know if he would actually make a distinction between the two when he's ranting about something
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That's a good point
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But I do think that it would be a different conversation between the two and that's really the only reason why this
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Has any relevant conversation around it at all because it's a public school, right?
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Right, right. Um, you know, I mean at a certain point
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Maybe we have to stop listening to what conservatives are saying about schools whenever they're like see they're teaching stuff
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That's not reading writing and arithmetic
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And really understand that I think they're actually angry at the reading the writing and the arithmetic and the history
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Yeah, they don't like it. Also. I looked into it. They don't have uh new world order studies. No harvey milk
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So I also so like I said, I looked into this and it seems like the people who go there and work at harvey
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Milk are enthusiastic about how important the school is and how it's a really positive learning environment
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According to the new york public schools information on their website
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They only had 59 enrolled students this past year and in the data going back to 2016 the highest of any year is 74
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It seems like if this is a special location where people who would be having a terrible time in high school can learn in peace
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I don't know really what the harm is none
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It's not like they have any different curriculum than any other high school and they're subject to the same reviews as any other school would
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By the board of regents and what have you also an important point here is that the school is not exclusively?
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Lgbtq anybody can attend of course. It's not it's not restricted make a restricted school
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So just from a very basic standpoint again alex shouldn't have a problem with this because it's the new york state board of education
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Deciding to do this experimental program to see how it works and it seems like it's worked. All right
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Yeah, and it's still open great. There have been other attempts to create high schools that are generally geared towards lgbtq students
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But they've not had as much success
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There was one planned here in chicago back in 2008, but that fell through before it got off the ground
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Pride school atlanta opened in 2016, but it closed in 2018 due to dropping enrollments
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But that one is interesting and a little bit different because it was a private school, right? So that had um,
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You know sort of a different dynamic, right? Right. Uh, but yeah those those uh fell through whereas the harvey milk school has has endured
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You know that is such a great like
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Point of view into the real id, uh, the real ideology behind there is it's not listen
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if you didn't want your kid every argument every conservative's ever made is like I don't want my kids learning with
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With uh, lgbtq students. I don't want them in that situation learning things that they couldn't. Okay, fine
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So let's make a school for lgbtq
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Students and then your kids won't have to deal with it. Uh, no, I want that school fucking closed too, right?
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I want it all taken from them in a hypothetical sense. I agree with you that that is very revealing
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Although I do think that it would be wise to caution away from even engaging with the thought initially
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Of like let's put them in quotes all somewhere else because then you end up with segregated schools and i'm not talking
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Of course you're not you and I know that you and I both know what we're talking about
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I'm, just clarifying that in case uh, it sounds like that is a bridge worth. No, no, no, i'm not i'm
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I'm using this as an example. I understand. Yeah, it's my job to be over clarified sometimes
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Of course, but it is it is the case if you think that it's about them not wanting to learn about
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Lgbtq issues with your students. No. No, it's that they exist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, you don't want them there and you don't want them there or here or yeah, it's a mess
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They're you got it. So anyway, alex is really really excited about this calloogan coming on sure howard calloogan calloogan
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We do have howard
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Calloogan coming on is the founder. I think he's actually right. He's actually right. Oh, okay recall davis campaign
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call davis campaign
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So we'll find out the inner workings
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What the democrats are trying to do to derail this?
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uh how they have
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one of their top agents michael savage
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one of the top deep neck agents
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in there who say he may run as an independent which will then ensure that a
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Liberal democrat or liberal republican gets elected. Yeah, so michael savage is one of the democrat top operatives
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it's so funny how we jump back and forth between this time period because every single time i'm always like
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Michael savage is a top democrat. Oh, wait. No, I remember now. I remember where we are in the storyline
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I'm caught up, you know, he's not a legend of the patriot community and has been for years
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No, he's like he's a long-haired beatnik who's trying to uh, shill for neo-cons
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It's like I've missed the second season of better call saul or something. He's shifting alliances. He's basically a socialist now
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So alex touches back on this uh policy market the policy analysis market story and uh, man
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This is the day after it is that somebody has already told him to his face on his show not happening, right?
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But it's still happening. Okay this morning. We scanned the news wires for several hours
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Uh, my wife did uh, one of my other employees did
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I did
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I scanned the news wire several hours last night and about half the news articles
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in forbes and fortune and
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The new york times are positive
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about the giant currency slash war death
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speculation gambling house
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This insider trading house that's already been set up at the pentagon years ago
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But they were going to make it public and claim it was legal
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So they've had a tontine going on behind the scenes and about half the articles are positive
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they they say it's needed I was watching cnn last night and
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They talked about how this would keep us safe and maybe it's needed and fox was joking about it
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But said, you know, maybe it's a bad idea, but it was just to keep us safe
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Uh, yeah secret passwords where anyone can bet on where the next terror attack will be in the billions of dollars
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And you have the government run a speculation market which which should be illegal in and of themselves or bad enough
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And upset markets and ruin people and are much more dangerous than any las vegas casino
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Almost everything alex is saying about this story is completely wrong
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The factual stuff is just in riffing details to make this more interesting as a conspiracy
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And things like secret passwords just had to do with like people who were investing would have accounts with password
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Well, yeah, they would have password protected so scary. Yeah
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This is a dead story because the market that was proposed didn't actually happen these two democratic senators pushed back on it
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And the project was abandoned because that's the case alex needs to kind of shift the tone of his coverage
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And that's why the story is now that this betting market has existed for a while secretly
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And still does exist, but they're just trying to make it public the public unveiling of the program failed
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But the program still totally exists in secret and alex could definitely prove it
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He has the documents and it's in the white papers, you know it honestly
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It's basically just your office march madness pool, but blown up, you know, and then literally literally blown up
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This is a pretty savvy move on alex's part because if he didn't do this his narrative would actually be tied to reality
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The program would be done for and that's that nothing else to really see here man
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The government actually worked the way he claims he wants it to this is a conspiracy dead end
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So if you want to get mileage out of this, which you've already spent a day trying to work up
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You have to change the story. You have to change the game. Yeah, and what's important is not that you theoretically quote unquote one
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You were against this policy. Now. This policy is shelved
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That has nothing you're not going to go and be like hey we did it
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You and reinforcing that you and your listeners did something is way worse than telling them that you are doing something
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And that you were continuing to do something and that nothing you ever do will end in a victory
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But we're always going to keep going, you know, yeah. Yep
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So alex, uh, you know, there's sometimes cute moments on his show. I think this might be a little bit cute. Okay
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Hey, thanks a lot. Mike. Appreciate it bud
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Mike just uh walked into the studio and gave me uh,
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Some coffee. Yes. I I hadn't had my coffee today. I'm trying to break myself of it and
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I'm addicted to it. It is a drug. I am phasing myself off of it, but I had a big fat headache. So I uh,
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Mike was coming into the studio and I called him on the cell phone about 10 minutes ago and said will you get me a coffee?
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And mike walked right in as I was going on the air and handed me this coffee this
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this drug or since about
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20 times less strong than ritalin that we give 15-month-old babies in this country, but
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It's still bad stuff and I really shouldn't do it. Just drink your fucking coffee
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By the way, there's a move to tax and perhaps even ban coffee
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Okay, just drink your fucking it doesn't everything doesn't have to be everything. I'm pretty sure they also already taxed coffee
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No one was talking about banning coffee
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Also, 15-month-olds are definitely not prescribed riddle. I don't know what would how according to the fda
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It hasn't been approved for people under six though in some extreme cases it can be prescribed to people
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Over the age of three, but that's going to be pretty rare
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Also, it's really hard to say
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How it's making a big deal about how dangerous of a drug coffee is and how he needs to quit considering his rampant alcohol abuse
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And a parent problem with stimulants in recent days. Yeah. Listen, he's trying to cut back. Okay on the stimulants. Yeah
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So this next clip I I think it's sort of tracking a um an under wait. Wait, hold on. Sure
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Am I am I wrong in thinking that one of his products is a drug that's not a drug that's not a drug that's not a drug
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In thinking that one of his products is coffee
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Yeah, he sells the wake up america blend the chiapas farmers
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Yeah, am I wrong in thinking that one of his products has a shit ton of caffeine in it?
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He has a bunch of weird like pseudo stimulants. Sure the ones that he's like, hey take half of this
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It'll fuck you up. That's what i'm i'm trying to i'm i'm like brain force
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Okay, we're bouncing back before between timelines
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So it's like oh i'm trying to get off coffee, but in my head i'm like wait
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Wait, aren't you about to do an ad for coffee?
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Yeah, i'm not sure if he's selling coffee at this point yet, but I think it was before the sub
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Yeah, I think so
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I think this is before he gets all of his line of bullshit and then he's like, oh boy caffeine and other associated
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Uh, the like are great
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Yeah, yeah, it's weird. Oh well, uh also alex
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Uh does not limit himself to coffee. That's
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so that's fair, uh, alex takes some calls and
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Um, this this is sort of a part of a path, uh that we've been going down and that is you know
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It started very exciting, uh, because we met someone named dan from illinois. Sure. Uh,
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And it turns out he calls in all the fucking time. Yeah, that's a little bit different and i've fallen
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More and more out of love with him. Yeah, that's not surprising. Dan from illinois is a real piece of shit
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All right, let's go to dan in illinois and scott greg michael and others dan you're on the air welcome
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Welcome. How are you doing? Alex? Fantastic. Just to add to what you were saying a minute ago. It's a massive redefinition of acceptable behavior
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Yeah, we're gonna have uh homosexual high schools well, are we gonna have heterosexual high schools a school that's about sexual orientation
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I mean even if you're a liberal
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And and and and you know, we're all for what the homosexuals are doing
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Still what you don't have a wait what that is about someone's sexual orientation much less a destructive lifestyle
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I mean folks this is
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This is basically pedophilia being legalized and i've got a stack of articles on it
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Today that sounds fairly close to his modern shit. I mean
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Does does he think that they're teaching?
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Yes, okay. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, and I couldn't I couldn't believe for a real second
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Yeah, somebody would do that, but it's true. He doesn't think that they're teaching like math. Nope. Nope
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That it's uh teaching gay stuff. Yep. Yep. Yep over over over the pants
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Yep, a little gross disgusting. Fuck you dan from illinois. Fuck you dan from illinois
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So so alex is gonna bring in uh, howard colugian
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And I gotta say I was looking into him and from everything I can tell
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He seems like he's just your kind of run-of-the-mill shady lawyer who was also involved in recalling a governor
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And then he also had a failed senate run. Yeah, he's the chair of the recall gray davis committee though
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It should be noted that another member of that committee was notorious pollster frank luntz
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Who alex is currently obsessed with suggesting is in a relationship with kevin mccarthy. Yeah, they live together weird
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Also dipping around in colugian's history. I found an interesting tidbit
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In 2004 apparently he was heading a campaign to block theaters from playing michael moore's movie fahrenheit 9 11
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There's a very impassioned op-ed that I found calling out colugian and supporting michael moore from that article quote
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Colugian's arm twisting organization move america forward has called moore's film a recruiting video for al qaeda
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In other words moore is a terrorist
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It should be more than obvious by now that uh, what far right wingers like colugian and ashcroft want done to those
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They consider terrorists or for that matter those who disagree with bush
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The writer of that op-ed alex's longtime writer and one-time webmaster kurt nimmo writing on his own blog
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Yep, what?
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No
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Another fun fact nimmo has bylines on globalresearch.ca from 2004 all the way up to the present day
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What?
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No, yeah, nimmo's a weird thread. What is happening with nimmo?
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Yeah, so a year after this interview kurt nimmo wrote an article
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lombasting, uh
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Uh colugian as a free speech and tyrant what is happening?
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I don't know. So anyway colugian comes in and they have like a real fun
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Jocular time. Oh good. I can't think of anything better in our republic than recalling an open border promoting gun grabbing
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Uh energy speculating creature like governor davis
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The problem is are we going to get a neo con like schwarzenegger?
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Or are we going to get some other democrat winning?
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Or will a michael savage throw it by running as an independent?
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Uh, let's go ahead and go to
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Howard colugian, uh, good to have you on the show, sir
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Thank you very much alex. It's good to be with you today
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You bet tell us a little bit about yourself the zenith of this how you started it
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What the process has been like and where we're going and how you see this breaking down
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Well quickly about me i'm an attorney, but don't hold it against me. I thought honestly
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It's really cute that the two of them are getting along pretty well
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You know having this fake laugh because they would absolutely fucking hate each other if they knew what the other one stood for
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Oh, yeah case in point colugian is super in favor of the war in iraq in 2005
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He was so into endure the enduring war that he began an organization called moving america forward along with sal russo
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A political communications and strategy guy who was also a key member of the recall gray davis committee, right?
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The new group was meant to quote report the good news on operation. Iraqi freedom
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You're not hearing from the old line news media
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Oh, man, this led to an embarrassing fuck-up where colugian posted a picture of a quiet street and claimed that it was bagdad
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You know trying to make the argument that the war was super effective and things were going great
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Yeah, it also turned out that this was a street in istanbul
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Colugian in a classic right-wing move would go on to blame a staffer for the fuck up. I can't believe it
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So many goddamn people. I mean staffers who is who is releasing?
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So we already touched on his opposition to free speech vis-a-vis michael moore
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And also we should say that colugian tried to co-op the tea party by starting a bus tour called the tea party express
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Which tried to get doomed candidates elected and it raised a bunch of money that got funneled to organizations run by colugian
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And his longtime collaborator russo. Yeah, that's the way to
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Steal. Yeah, the face man for the tea party express was a radio host named mark williams or at least it was until
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He had some controversy about a racist letter that he posted on his website
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Actually, that's not totally accurate. He didn't end up stepping down from the tea party express the national tea party
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Federation said that the tea party express needed to fire williams for the clearly racist letter and they refused to so the national organization
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Expelled them from the formal Wow. Yeah. Wow. When did they let him back in?
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I'm not sure if they did
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So the letter was written from the perspective of freed enslaved persons. Nope towards Abraham Lincoln. No, no, no, no, no, no
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No, excuse me, sir. Excuse me. I'm gonna read you a little bit. Oh god. No quote. Mr
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Lincoln you are the greatest racist ever
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We had a great gig
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Okay, all right squares room and board all of our decisions made by masa in the house
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We coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to the whole emancipation thing
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Freedom means having to work for real think for ourselves and take consequences along with the rewards
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That's just far too much to ask of us colored people and we demand that it's stopped
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Yeah, holy shit insane. That is
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Bonkers. Yep, that's bad stuff. And this is the dude that kaloogian was willing to go to bat for so that's great
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Also in response to the proposed ground zero mosque
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This guy Williams said that it would be quote for the worship of the terrorists monkey god
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Which apparently also wasn't enough for him to get in trouble with the tea party express
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Yeah
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anyway
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The point is the kaloogian loves the iraq war hates free speech and was an active part of trying to grift on the tea party
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In a way that really served to worsen the parts of the community that were an embarrassment in the eyes of the larger population
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Which probably hurt a number of their candidates at the polls and like alex should really fucking hate this dude, right?
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I mean long term though. That was the right move. Well
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Sure. Yeah, I mean, I mean you got to give it to him there
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It's sort of an accidental victory
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I suppose
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But yeah, but Alex
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I mean he stands for a lot of things that Alex in theory should be very much against all he knows about him
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Is that he's against Gray Davis? Yeah, and so it's like yeah, fuck. Yeah, I'm into this
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Yeah, it is. It is so much like that
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There are so many false equivalencies that we can make between America and Russia and all that shit right there
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But the one thing that is always true is that there are weirdo right-wing assholes who are gonna be like listen
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Our government is not hurting anybody. I promise you everything's great
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No, no, are they paying me? No, that's the weirdest part of this. I'm doing it for free. Well, not totally for free
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Well, yeah, I'm conning you. I'm conning others. Yes, but not them who should be paying me to con for you
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So so Alex gets to espousing some ideas about Gray Davis and electoral politics in California
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And this is really incoherent now governor Davis has had his lorican keister folks calling for revolution and breaking up the u.s
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He's had his minions on TV
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Basically energizing the illegal aliens to to go steal this election now if that were true at all
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How would it be possible for Gray Davis to be one of only four governors in the history of the United States?
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To face a recall election if he had all these illegal votes rigging elections
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Why did he rig it so he would be one of only two governors in US history to actually be recalled
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It seems like a really dumb use of power that Alex is pretending that he wields
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But that's just because Alex's position isn't sincere. It's just a xenophobia and racism
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I think I think it's cuz you just don't understand four-dimensional chess, okay
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You gotta lose to win your everybody knows this about chess. You're right
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I'm saying the colloquium and his friends were bad decision makers in terms of the tea party
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But it turns out in the long run. It's a whole different thing
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You're right. You're not know so colloquium
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Man, he's got some some fucking weird ideas about America surprise
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Second time in the last hundred years. This is happened. That's correct. The first time was in North Dakota
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And so that really doesn't tell
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Haha, you know what? I hate man. I hate all these Democrat coastal elites looking down on flyover country
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Oh stand how these California liberals are out here pretending that they're the only ones that matter and things that happen in smaller states
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Don't count thank God. We have these upstanding right-wing patriots standing up and caring about what happens in middle
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They're talking for the real America for the people that I don't have a voice. Yeah, they would never
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Say that no, no, no, they wouldn't just discount massive amounts of geography based solely upon their own
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Bigotries and a lack of care. That would be silly coastal elite. Yeah
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North Dakota doesn't count
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I mean there aren't and it's not like there are any coastal elites in the Republican Party
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You would have to go from what be on like say one of those schools on the East Coast like
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Harvard or Yale or something like that or one of those schools on the West Coast like Stanford or you know
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We don't have a lot of Republicans from those schools, right? None. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I find that kind of
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dumb just tasteful
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So Alex also is a little bit dumb
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Every governor since the 60s including Ronald Reagan and Jerry Brown and George Duke Meijan and Pete Wilson
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Every governor has had a recall effort
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Begun against him not once has it ever gotten to the point of actually making the ballot
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Actually making the ballot because never before have we had a governor this bad taking us to the brink of bank
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I tell you it's getting pretty close in Arizona with conservatives going after McCain
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Yes, well that could be but I'm not familiar enough with that
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You know what? I hate I hate all these Democrat liberal socialists who have no idea what the Constitution actually says
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I can't stand these dumb dumb left-wingers out here spouting nonsense about what they think the country is about
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Thank God we have these patriots like Alex who like live and breathe our country's founding document
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They're policy wonks on a sincere note. According to the Constitution. You cannot recall people elected to federal positions
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It would be impossible for the people of Arizona to recall McCain without first getting an amendment passed that would
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Completely overhaul election rules on a national level
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Alex has no idea what he's talking about and just throwing out whatever bullshit he wants to make the show interesting
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Even if it violates the fucking cost pretty close though
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Oh
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Yeah, okay. Listen, I know you think that just cuz there are more steps than he assumes means that he's wrong
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But he think you can still be pretty close to more snot. It's not more steps
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There's one more step you have to get a national constitutional amendment pass the distance between those steps you could not make pretty best step
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They're pretty big steps. That's true. That is true
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Yeah, we're gonna recall this senator
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All
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Right. All right. We got to get McCain. Okay, so let's get him. Let's get him out of there. Let's do a recall
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No, we can't do that because of the Constitution remember that well, how do we change that you want to change the Constitution?
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I thought we would love to the Constitution. Yeah, you change it whenever you need to you can like I
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Just I don't I don't I don't even know what to say. Nope. He loves the Constitution loves Erica
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So this recall is going down, right? And so the way it's structured is that there is one election that's going to happen
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Yes, there's gonna be two things on the ballot one is should Gray Davis be recalled
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Right, and then the second thing is if so, which of these people should replace him, right?
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So if the first measure passes then the second question will come into play, right?
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If it doesn't then Gray Davis stays in office, right? That's the way this it goes
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Gotcha, and so they're talking a little bit about who?
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Kalu gian backs. Mm-hmm in the race and might surprise you who do you favor?
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to win
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The state rep Isa who has a more conservative record or an Arnold Schwarzenegger kind of a neo-con
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I mean, who are you leaning towards?
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The congressman's name is ISA
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I said, you know and he is from the San Diego area as am I and he had the vision
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To see the need for the recall and he provided the leadership to get it finished
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The volunteer effort was significant, but it was not able on its own to finish up the job
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Well, he's now being attacked and obviously he's a lot better than Arnie and the rest of these guys
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Yes, then I would be supporting congressman ISA. However, I don't think Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to run Wow bad prediction
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Yeah, also Darrell ISA didn't run
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No, also, we know from Matt Drudge that ISIS was named after Darrell ISA as a joke
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Yep, that the globalists are playing or something. It's weird how they do that. So
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Darrell ISA actually didn't run in this recall election because of
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suspicions and
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accusations that were made about his early organization of the recall campaign that he's
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We're talking about right now talking about that
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There were insinuations that he funded early efforts to get the recall going for himself to be able to run sure
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That was a little bit of hot water. Yeah, and so he withdrew from the race
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Yeah, of course because that definitely wasn't the case as Kalugian here himself is saying
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Of course, the volunteer effort would have no effect if it weren't for this guy's. Oh wait. No, that does sound the opposite
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Yeah, so his his his prediction Kluge ins is the ISA is gonna run and Schwarzenegger is not wrong on two counts
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Now we get to the idea about Savage Michael Savage of the savage
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Independent throw a wrench in the race. We'll see what kalugian thinks. Okay. What about a
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a mr. Wiener or Weiner
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Running wouldn't he basically I mean, what would happen if wouldn't wouldn't mr
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Savage the alias wouldn't he pull the more conservatives to vote for him but not win and then you end up
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Getting one of the liberals winning. Mm-hmm. I don't think so. I'm not concerned about Arnold Schwarzenegger
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I don't think he's gonna run and I don't know this other person you're mentioning. Mr. Michael Savage
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You've never heard of Michael. Oh, Michael Savage. Oh, he's not gonna run
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Like how he can be
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Almost patronizing and wrong and patronizing and right in the same clip
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Yeah, that's nice. And also just have a clear like I I do enjoy it when guests clearly don't know anything about the narratives
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Alex is trying to build nope and accidentally completely deflate. You're silly. Yeah
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yeah, that's always my favorite thing that you're pushing as like a legitimate possibility that you need to be worried about because it's a
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globalist plan right
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That's silly. It is it is always fun. Whenever people are like unaware of their
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Responsibility their role everybody is always aware like all the good Alex guests are like, yes, absolutely
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And here's what I have to you know, the yes and all the way. Mm-hmm
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But every time somebody is like no, we're having a genuine genuine conversation here
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Obviously Michael Savage isn't going to run that's silly only a fool would believe that what kind of show would have something like that
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I'll be person who would be suggesting such a thing as I'm trying to trick an audience
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Yeah, you would have to have some sort of nefarious purpose behind that sort of suggestion. Yeah. Yeah
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So the this interview ends with good tidings of a coming recall election
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Sure, and then Alex goes into the third hour and he has a guest named Bilbo shears
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Billy shears his name's Bilbo shears 20 years ago today
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Let me introduce to you the one and only Bilbo shears, okay
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So I didn't have the other lyrics but understand I do think he goes by Billy shears
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Okay, and I do think it's probably a Beatles reference
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um, but he is a guy who has a radio show, uh-huh, and
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Alex is a guest on it sometimes and so I think this is a little quid pro quo
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Sure, cuz it's a guy who I don't know just a boring
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Gets to show up
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Yeah, shoot the shit for a little while with Alex on his show and then go back to his own
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Hometown minor league radio. Well, no cuz he broadcasts out of a hundred watt blowtorch
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Or whatever that Alex always calls these radio stations blowtorches, which I like. All right, but
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Their interview meaningless just talking about how great they are and how they break all the stories in the world
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It doesn't get better than our form of media
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yeah, and so they end up taking some calls and they get this one call that I think is fascinating and I
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would play all of it, but it
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There's it's very it's pretty long and there's also parts of it that kind of
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veer around and it's it's circuit circuitous, but the beginning of this call is essentially this guy saying like hey
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Alex I
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Wanted to I want to bring this up to you
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I think that if you actually engaged with some of the
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Material that's being put out by left-leaning folks and a lot of socialist organizations
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They're actually complaining about a lot of the same stuff you are right and Alex's response is basically like yeah
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Yeah, they bring up good points, but then they try to get you into world government
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Well, no, that's not actually true
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They go to break. Yeah, I come back and Alex actually goes back to this guy
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All right, and I just don't think Alex can handle this kind of
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a
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Conversation. Yeah, he just has nowhere to go with it
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What I'm talking about is that some of the very outrageous that you're talking about have been exposed by leftist and socialist
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publications that I read
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They do expose it but then they give you a bad solution. They don't do anything about it
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Well what what they're talking about what I'm saying though is that I think it's very dangerous because these neo comms
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I have dressed up their schemes for
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Destroying the Constitution the Bill of Rights plunging us into wars for Empire under the name of anti-communism. This has been the decades-long
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Propaganda. Okay, let me stop you. Let me stop you. That's absolutely true. And then here's the twist that proves what Bellen and I are saying
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Ron Paul read from dozens of their own books and publications the top neo cons are
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Machiavellian first and foremost and they were formed out of Trotsky's fourth International now
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That's a fact the founders. Let me finish the founders are Trotskyite
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So you've got real hardcore communists saying they're anti-communist calling for big government
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And see you can't understand that you can't compute that the enemy's all around us that they're big
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Government people whether you call them right-wing or left-wing. They want to control the entire paradigm. Go ahead, John
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Well, I think you're projecting people like Irving Kristol might have been on the left at one time maybe as either
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The plants by the CIA or opportunists who then saw that they their origins could be traded on to become anti-communist
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But this does not mean that they're not profoundly no
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They call for they call for a social welfare. They call for control. They call for big government
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They are confused. You're spinning your wheels John. Thanks for the call the people in the banks for the call John
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I really appreciate it Bill any other comments of that done whatsoever. You did a fine job
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I've done it earlier
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Thank You Billy shears. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's that is that is really telling. Yeah, the caller actually has
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Exactly Alex's number. Yeah, and that is the point that he's making is that Irving Kristol did involve himself in some Trotskyite
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thought before ending up beginning the
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neo conservative sure ideology or going down that path and he calls the sounds like this does not characterize the
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entirety of
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The this this this whole philosophy that you are you're painting in this light, right?
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That's not defining of the neo cons just not because this one that this one detail you can extrapolate out
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Right and Alex can't handle it. So he hangs up on him
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Yeah, and insinuates that you just can't see past the paradigm that I can see
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I mean, I I heard the big moment happen whenever he was like
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You realize that they're dressing this all up in the guise of anti-communism
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Mm-hmm and Alex cut him off immediately because all I heard was him being like
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Yeah, that's what the birches have been trying to do. No, you're you're right. Mm-hmm
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That's what we're doing, but I'm not going to say that's what we're doing. No, no, no because that's what the neo cons
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It's what the neo cons are doing and I'm against them. Totally click. Yep. Bye. So we get another call and that's actual
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This is actually far more important
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Apparently you're upsetting people to my info wars comm stick. It was actually ripped off of my car here in College Station
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and
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So I guess that's a good thing that you're apparently pissing people off. Well, well, just do me a favor
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Let's be careful language a lot of kids listening, but you're telling me that somebody ripped your sticker off as a family. Yeah, I had my info
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sticker that I had gotten when I lived in Austin and then
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And now here in College Station and that apparently I guess somebody went and looked up the site or knew what you're about
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And you know, Homeland Security is gonna base one of its main capitals kind of its new school of America's for the American
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KGB there with all the gullible neo cons
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So that's probably why that happened. Yeah, that is that is certainly why that yeah, absolutely
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This caller calls in and his info war sticker was torn off. His car is probably Homeland Security
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I wouldn't have considered Homeland Security because that wasn't on my mind. But now that you've said it it's so obvious that
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That is almost a parody of Alex's mentality. Yeah. Yeah, that is
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So absurd somebody calling in with the pettiest of nonsense
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meaningless
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Vandalism, let's say to be very generous and it's a fucking conspiracy that involves a department of the federal government. Yep
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Yep, you got it. Yeah
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No the other day somebody stole my bike and the reason is obviously because Pam was shut down 20 years ago
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Mm-hmm. That was the whole idea behind it, you know, so they had to get my bike stolen. Yeah, it's brutal
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What a just amazing way to think so this next clip Jordan. Yeah, really depressing
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What's sad about it? Well, I just had a birthday. Yeah, and you am having a birthday, right?
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Yeah, and so age is maybe on our minds. It's true
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I don't know how to break this to you
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Now that's basically what I do is cover news and information here and try to defend the Republic
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against enemies foreign and domestic and I'm 29 years old and
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I've been in this fight for
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Years on the air for over eight is that does that answer your basic question?
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Are you familiar with the organization Liberty Lobby?
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Yeah, I think that they've done great work
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With alternative news and I am familiar with them. Yes. Oh that was under an impression that perhaps you were a spin-off from them or such
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Well, I think we're all spin-offs
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the Bill of Rights and Constitution in
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1776 god damn it's so wild to just have a reminder that Alex is 20 not do you ever do you ever it like every
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time you go back and you look at like
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If they if they ever show you like a 1950s high school yearbook and you start looking through it and you're like
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These people are 45. There's no way people looked this old at this age, right?
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Or you watch Saved by the Bell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you guys are you guys are 50 years old easily. No, yeah
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Yeah that him the the words. I'm 29 coming out of that house in
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absurd
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unacceptable, I mean
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It's like Bobcat Goldthwait would talk about how like when he first started out he was young and no one ever was like look at
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This young. Yeah. Yeah, nobody was like, oh we got the the hot new thing
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Right. No, he's Bobcat Goldthwaite or Larry David looked old. Sure. Sure. But Alex is like he just has this vibe
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No, you're old
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45 at this clip
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He's on the edge of death
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Always, yeah
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I think a big part of it is that like he sounds weary a little bit and then the other thing too
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Is that he's saying these things that are so antiquated that you just think like this guy's got to be a grandpa
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Yeah, well and he's he is doing a limbaugh voice true. He's still doing a limbaugh voice at this time
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So he's 29 and he's actively trying to sound older. Yeah, that's definitely true
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Yeah, that sucks. But what sucks more is that Alex is aware of the Liberty Lobby and that he's into them
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That's because neo-nazi and white nationalist Willis Cardo started the Liberty Lobby as an effort to sway public opinion against Jews
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This is an actual quote from a letter that Cardo wrote quote Hitler's defeat was the defeat of Europe and of America
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How could we have been so blind the blame it seems must be laid at the door of the international Jews
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It was their propaganda lies and demands which blinded the West to what Germany was doing if Satan himself with all of his
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superhuman genius and diabolical ingenuity at his command had tried to create a permanent disintegration and
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Force for the destruction of the nation's he could have done no better than to invent the Jews
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I could not believe that Paul Joseph Watson said that
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Cardo's political activism included starting the youth for Wallace organization to support the presidential run of
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Segregationist George Wallace this group eventually became the National Youth Alliance
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Which would end up splintering into different organizations one of which being the National Alliance led by William Luther Pierce
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Who is a straight-up neo-nazi and the author of the Turner Diaries?
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Which is considered more or less the essential text of the modern militia white supremacist community
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Pierce's mentor while in the National Youth Alliance coincidentally was the fascist founding member of the John Birch Society
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Revilo P Oliver, so this is all fun
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But this is the inner intellectual tradition that Alex celebrates and he comes from it's a clusterfuck of white
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Supremacists and Nazis with a group name desperate to mask their true character with the appearance of patriotism, right?
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It's important to remember that sometimes when there's some goofy dumb bullshit that Alex is coming into and when we have in the present day
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These reminders that people like Paul's his employees
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Harbor these same sorts of feelings and express them sometimes in moments of looseness
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I mean it makes total sense because the people where all of their information comes from the people who are the
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Forefathers of them in this I guess if you want to call it information war they were white supremacists and Nazis
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Yep
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No, they are well some of them are dead
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Well, that's fair
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To the to the to the deceased they were yes true. Yeah. So anyway one more clip here
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I just want to get that bad taste out of your mouth
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Yeah, Alex trying to plug one of his films in perhaps the worst possible way. Love it. It's documented
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It's what's going on and the average person who's been in denial who gets you know
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This information trickled out to them by the mainstream media has been conditioned and has never seen the big picture
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This will show them the big picture and they'll already be aware of a lot of what's in the videos
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And so on the pieces are all put together
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Well, a lot of people cry a lot start laughing insanely
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Some people go and puke. I mean literally you've heard the listeners talk about this effect. It has on people especially government bureaucrats
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Folks that know the data in it is accurate people who've been in the government who've been given part of the brainwashing
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That's in the film and then go. How did I miss it? It freaks them out. What a sales pitch Wow
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I can't wait to get that
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Government employees when they watch it
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Might throw up or it might drive you mad
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You'll begin laughing uncontrollably walking the streets at midnight
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No one knows what will happen when you see this video and if you do not show someone else's within seven days
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You will die
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9-eleven road to tyranny is the original ring the original ring goo. I
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Understand really tried to hype up your product. I got it. I get it might be a
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Listen, if you listen to knowledge fight, you know, what happens to you when you listen to you
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You will shit your pants immediately all of your bowels non-stop
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Uncontrollable diarrhea and people still listen to the show. You can't believe it. Well, it's good
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Well, I think it's because we don't advertise it. I
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Mean look spiritually speaking. I think I've watched some of Alex's films and they do make me want to throw it
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It's true. That is true. Literally speaking
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Seems a little literally seems a little silly. Literally. I did find myself laughing a lot and going insane true
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No, but that's because it took us nine hours straight. That's fair drink it quite a bit. Well, there was that
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Oh, so we come to the end of this 2003 adventure indeed
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I think it was a a little bit of a reprieve from Thursday, but you still see shades of stuff there
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You know with the branding of this
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LGBTQ friendly school in New York something adjacent to pedophilia. Yeah, you see that like being echoed in the present day
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Yeah, you see Alex being really down with a outlet run by Nazis. You see that in the present day
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Yeah, definitely plenty of those. Yeah, there are these these
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Reverberations of very similar things in the present day. It's kind of a bummer. Well, I
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Mean when you when you think of it in in terms of like these are gigantic
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reactions to things like what we're experiencing right now is the culmination of the gigantic reaction to
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abortion in 1970s, you know, like this is all a
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Moment, it's just a huge wave and you can't just stand in front of it
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Not one person can like get in the way and so we're gonna see what happens whenever the wave goes the other direction now
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Like what they are doing to us is going to have
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massive
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Massive results that are gonna take time, you know, yeah, you don't know what they're gonna be. Yeah, it's
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It's scary. Sure. It's big. Yeah, it's big
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Well, we'll we'll see how that plays out as it plays out indeed
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We'll check back in with Alex on our next episode and see you maybe if he's disowned Paul
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Who's Paul private contractor, I guess he's distanced himself from us for years now, you know what this is on him
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He has to do he gets to go down his own ship. We'll see or maybe it'll be like it's a deep fake
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Maybe or maybe you'll be hosting the fourth hour. Well, that would be the status quo
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So we'll be back Jordan, but tell then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight calm
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Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight now go to bed Jordan
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Yep, we'll be back but until then I'm neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I hope you all have a
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dreamy creamy
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Summer and now here comes the sex robots Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
