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with your band and love your world Sit sculpture.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody!
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fat, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan!
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I have a quick question for you.
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What up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today Jordan is actually a little bit of something that we need to play
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catch up on.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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A little bit back we got something in the mail bags, yep, from Hannah out in Erie, Pennsylvania.
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Alright.
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Alright.
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And I need to make good on this.
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How are our sisters doing?
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Ah they're great.
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Okay good.
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Hannah sent us some chocolates.
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Okay.
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From Erie, Pennsylvania.
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The Pride of Erie.
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Yes.
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Some sponge candy from two different brands.
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Okay.
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Romolo.
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Uh huh.
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And what is this other one?
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It's Stefa something or other.
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Stefa something or other.
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Stefanelli's!
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Stefanelli's!
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I like it.
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Hannah asked us to, how did Hannah put it, there is a rivalry between two families in
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Erie that are chocolatiers.
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One makes a chocolate that is deemed quote better than the other.
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I want you two to do a blindish taste test between the two milk chocolate sponge candies
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and so we did that before the show because chewing into the mic does disgust some people.
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Many people find it horrific.
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We don't want to set anyone off.
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So I, we've tried these and Hannah would like us to guess which one is the classier one
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or just considered the classier one and I say it's Stefanelli's.
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And I say it is Gondola's, nope what is it?
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Romolo.
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Yeah Gondola.
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Gondola.
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Yeah.
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I got Gondor on the brain so, no I say it's the reverse.
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My bright spot is that I think I'm pretty sure I'm right in advance.
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I'm not saying that you're not, I'm just, I'm playing the game.
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Exactly, we were talking about this before we started recording as we were eating the
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chocolates and your reason for choosing Romolo is almost oppositional defiance.
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No it's not!
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Why would you ask the question?
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We both agree which one tastes better.
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Because it's a local thing.
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It's something that people outside of Erie probably don't know too much about these rival
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chocolatiers.
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Hatfields and McCoys of chocolate.
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Sure, sure, I just assumed that one of them, if it's better it's the less, or if the one
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that people assume is better is the one that we're supposed to say is not as good.
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I don't think that either of them were bad.
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No, no, they're both delicious.
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They were both fine.
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Love it.
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I just think the Romolo was a little bit, the chocolate was a little too dry.
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A little thicker?
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Yes.
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Doesn't melt in your mouth.
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No.
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No, absolutely not.
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Anyway, that's my bright spot.
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Indeed.
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Sponge candy.
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It's delicious.
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Absolutely.
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Jordan?
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Dan, I have the rare triple bright spot.
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The rare triple bright spot.
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He's batting for the cycle.
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Absolutely.
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Wait, you need quadruple for that.
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First things first, somebody reached out to me, sent me an email, and they had done a
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better job of converting my terrible PDF into an EPUB and a MOBI than I could ever do.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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Yeah, huge shout out to Old Man Sitko, as he would like to be named.
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All right.
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Yeah, the formatting of your book left something to be desired.
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It was awful.
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I tried everything 30 different times.
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It's hard.
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It's just like, I can't, yeah.
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He did an amazing job.
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Second, I was going back through my... I've been writing about music for a while now.
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So I've been-
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Mostly Taylor Swift.
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Digging, almost entirely Taylor Swift.
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But I've been digging through all my old crates and stuff like that, and I finally re-listened
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to the Feist version of Lover's Spit by The Broken Social Scene.
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I think it was off Beehives or something like that.
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So good.
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Feist manages to be both sonorous and breathy at the same time, and it's incredible.
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Okay.
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It's beautiful.
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And then the third is something that you just gave to me-
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Yeah.
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Well, I didn't give it to you.
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No, no, no.
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You did not.
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You handed it to me.
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Yes.
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Physically.
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That comes from the... What was mine again?
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What?
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I had a mail bin.
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What did I have?
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I don't know.
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A box?
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It's not my job to remember your passive aggressive kits.
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I think I remember there was a... Wow.
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That's not my job.
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I just thought you would be offended enough by them that you... Anyways, I was sent by-
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Yeah, from Amy.
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From Amy.
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Raptor Princess Amy.
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Raptor Princess Amy, a signed copy of, I believe, the first American edition of The Long Dark
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Tea Time of the Soul by Douglas Adams.
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It was your favorite book of Doug's.
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It is maybe my favorite book.
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This one and So Long and Thanks for All the Fish are my two favorites.
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That's really awesome.
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Yeah.
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That's amazing.
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No, it's incredible.
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Actually, in that package, I also got a survival heirloom seed vault.
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Yes, gorgeous.
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And some awesome socks.
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A little known fact about Dan, I'm a man who likes funny socks.
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He's a man who likes funny socks.
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One of them says crazy cat dude and has some cats on it, and the other one is a pro wrestling
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themed socks.
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I'm very excited.
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Fantastic.
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Thank you, Amy.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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That's very nice of you.
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I was going to get to that on our next mini episode.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I can't.
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I mean, you handed it to me, and I need to tell the world because it's incredible for
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me.
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It's a huge moment.
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Yeah.
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I'm very excited.
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We might have to stop the show.
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Yeah.
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I'm a little overstimulated right now, but it's incredible.
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Take some breaths.
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I will.
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Because we got some stuff to go over today.
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I will.
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Let's do it.
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Today, Jordan, we're going to be going over Inauguration 2021, Black Jack.
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Black Jack.
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Now you're so fast.
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But I'm trying to beat you to it.
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Yeah, no, I got to race you.
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This is going to get weird.
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Yeah, it is.
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The rule is you can't start saying Black Jack until one gets out of my mouth.
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No, it's traditional Jeopardy rules.
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You have to buzz in.
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Oh.
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So on Jeopardy, you have to wait until the sentence, the question is finished, and then
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you have like 0.001 second to buzz in, and whoever does it fastest.
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But if you click it too soon...
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Do I have to buzz?
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No, you don't have to buzz.
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Okay.
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It's just a game.
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Okay.
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We'll figure it out as we go along.
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Anyway, we're talking about Inauguration Day.
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And Alex set out to do a marathon all day.
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And part of the reason for this is that he was expecting a false flag terrorist attack
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to happen.
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Totally.
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It did not happen.
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Totally.
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And so it kind of falls apart, the idea of it being a marathon.
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Naturally.
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Pretty quick.
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So today what we're going to be doing is we're going to be going over the American Journal,
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hosted by Harrison Smith.
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Okay.
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Some other issues about Harrison Smith.
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Right.
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Then Alex Jones' show, Until John Rappaport Takes Over the Fourth Hour.
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Sure.
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He's going to also do the War Room.
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But by that point, this thing had ground to a halt to such an extent that I just was like,
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I got no interest in this.
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And the American Journal I honestly think was a bit more interesting than I expected
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it to be.
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And there's some issues that we really need to talk about.
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All right.
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Let's do it.
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About this fucking ding-dong named Harrison.
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Also I'd like to say, what could have been one of my bright spots is all of the stories
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that are coming out about Alex losing his appeal in the Texas Supreme Court.
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Oh yeah.
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We are aware of that, but inauguration must be taken care of before we jump down that
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road.
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So we'll deal with that later in the week.
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Absolutely.
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For all those who were champing at the bit for us to get to that.
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Yeah.
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Before we get down to inauguration though, we've got to thank some Joe Biden donors.
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Oh, that's a good idea.
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I don't know that to be the case at all.
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I don't know if any.
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Some people who have supported our show had signed up in our policy wonks.
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Yeah.
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So first, Elliott Morgan, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Elliott.
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Thank you.
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Next.
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Don DeGran Prix's ghost.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Don DeGran.
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How's he doing in heaven?
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Bad news.
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No.
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Bad news.
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Well, he's doing good in heaven, actually.
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Is he doing good in heaven?
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I don't think he made it.
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Grifter heaven.
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Yeah.
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Next, Andrew Kemp.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Andrew.
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Thank you.
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Next, Corey, and actually Corey made an interesting request, and that is that he'd like to be
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known as a policy wonk, so congratulations, Corey.
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You're a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Policy wonk, Corey.
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I said Corey's a dog.
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Could be.
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Yeah.
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Next, I'm a doctor, and my time is precious.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, and we agree.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Next, Mr. Muscarello, a very fine fellow.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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Why not Mr. Toad's Wild Ride?
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Let's just roll with it.
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Gregorium's Wonder Emporium.
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Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple folks who signed up on an elevated
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level.
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I appreciate that very much.
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So, Jodie C., not the band Jodeci.
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Jodie C.
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Jodie C.
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Yes.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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Lord Subwalled.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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But it was the band Lord Subwalled.
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Yes, it was.
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Yes.
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And Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right.
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, all.
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Yes.
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And there's a certain irony to this, too, and that is that I still didn't say whatever
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the joke name is.
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Well, I was thinking about it, and I was like, our inability to get to your joke name immediately
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is in some ways a passive extortion.
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You got to get up to technocrat if you want to jump to the line.
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That's not the joke name.
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No, of course not.
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I don't know what the joke name was.
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I don't know.
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I lose track.
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I can't keep track of this stuff.
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Anyway, Jordan, we're going to jump in here at the beginning, where it all started.
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In the beginning, there was the word.
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I was going to say, we're going all the way back, huh?
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No, let's skip back a little bit.
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Little bit.
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Little bit.
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Okay, move forward.
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The beginning of the day.
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Abraham baguette, and then, okay.
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Eventually you get down the line and you find Harrison Smith, and he's sitting at a desk
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and America has fallen.
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Okay.
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You're watching American Journal.
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This is a dirge of sorts, a funeral song for the United States, for the Republic as we
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know it.
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This is now a wartime broadcast.
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America, the Republic has fallen.
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Again.
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With Donald Trump vacating the office, leaving the White House, and taking Air Force One
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while he still can to Florida.
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These people are intensely dramatic.
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I know.
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This is so...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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I think I start to realize when I look through the prism of people similar to Harrison or
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to Mike Adams and their just overly dramatic tendencies, I kind of realize that Alex is
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the same, except the way it manifests isn't like this weird over the top modeling America
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has fallen.
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It's kind of sci-fi and a little horror-y.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that's why it's a little bit less like obviously like really dramatic.
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It is a little bit like what's going on is these are all the theater kids who are so
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into masculinity they couldn't join the theater program, and so they're trying to get all
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this theater kid stuff out.
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I would have been a theater kid, but they were too inclusive.
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Exactly.
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Totally.
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100 percent.
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Yeah.
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I tried debate.
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Yeah.
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I had to play football because I was too manly.
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Harrison did not play football.
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No.
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Well, that's probably true.
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He's too much of a theater kid.
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Too much.
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Yeah.
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So there's an interesting dynamic that's going on throughout most of the coverage here on
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the 20th, and that is wrestling with Trump's legacy in the last hour of his presidency.
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Okay.
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Harrison comes solidly down on the side of that dude done fucked up.
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And I got to be honest, Donald Trump completely failed, utterly, totally failed.
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I was having this debate with my dad yesterday, and he was saying, you know, Trump was probably
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the greatest president in my lifetime.
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I said, it doesn't matter.
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He failed.
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He left us not with any lasting triumph, but with ash.
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You got some ash.
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I mean, I think a lot of people probably predicted this.
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Who?
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How?
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Why?
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When?
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Everyone.
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What kind of person would possibly have predicted this?
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Remember when he was elected president, Dan?
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We were meant to give him a chance.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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It's tough, I guess, to hear aspiring authoritarian dictator servers sad that they don't get to,
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you know, that their guy wasn't strong enough to get them to the point where they could
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be his servants.
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I was hoping that the boot I was licking was strong and powerful, and it turns out it was
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weak, ineffectual, and a grifter just like my boot.
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I can't believe that my tongue made it all the way through that boot.
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So quickly, too.
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How many licks does it take to get to the center of Trump's boot?
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I will say this about Harrison, though.
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What's that?
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Um, for all the, like, hey, Trump has failed kind of talk, he's a big man.
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He's a big man.
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He's big enough to admit that he was wrong.
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Okay.
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Although this clip is only 34 seconds long, and it ends with him saying, I wasn't actually
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wrong.
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Okay, well.
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We thought he had what it took to do what was necessary to save this country.
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And it would, I guess it would feel embarrassing if I cared about that sort of thing.
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I'm not too big to admit that we were wrong.
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We weren't wrong, really.
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He could have.
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He could have done it.
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He just didn't.
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He just didn't do it.
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He didn't do it.
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He didn't have what it takes.
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Wow.
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I'm big enough to admit we were wrong.
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Actually, nevermind.
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I am not.
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Nevermind.
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We weren't wrong.
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Indeed.
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I am not big enough to admit we were wrong.
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Hold on.
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Late breaking news.
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We weren't wrong.
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Excuse me, sir.
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Denial can only get to you in the cliff.
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It cannot get you to jump over it.
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Yeah.
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That's pretty amazing.
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That's.
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I'm a big enough man to admit I was wrong.
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Actually, I was right.
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Trump fucked up.
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I do like that he's completely missing the point of being a big enough man is the sense
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of like, I am an adult by immediately undercutting it.
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Well, and I think also, it's my experience that when you talk about like being big enough
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to admit you're wrong, that's usually the byproduct of like introspection and it's clear
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that this isn't something that has been wrestled with or like, huh, what was it that led us
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down the road to thinking that Trump was going to be our king?
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No, it's almost like he'd heard other people say I'm a big enough man to admit when I'm
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wrong a lot.
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Maybe his dad, who is debating.
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Yeah, yeah, this is supposed to be the thing that I say and then he walks it back because
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he doesn't understand it whatsoever.
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Yeah.
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So there's another thing that's going on in Info Wars right now, of course.
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Anybody who's listened to our shows aware of this, they're really mad at Q and QAnon.
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And so Harrison is also there and he has this expression that he keeps using and that is
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politics is war deferred, but that deferment no longer exists.
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Okay.
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We've never lied to you folks.
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We have never put a friendly face on something that was horrific.
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We have never told you to trust the plan that people were working behind the scenes that
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you needed to do nothing.
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Oh, really?
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We've always shot straight here at Info Wars, so that's what I'm going to try to do today.
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Really?
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I'm going to try to do it in a way that doesn't get me on a list of some sort because this
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is a brave new world.
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Yuck.
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This is a new situation that we are in.
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We've been discussing it this entire week, really ever since the sixth.
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Drink some coffee.
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Yeah.
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It is no longer safe to...
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Hurry it up.
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... express yourself believing that the First Amendment will protect you.
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He says, broadcasting lies.
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It's not the case anymore and we'll go through some major stories that show you that.
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I don't want to show this video, this is a rant Alex Jones went on yesterday that I
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think lays it out fairly well because this is a war now.
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If politics is war deferred, if politics is a replacement for war where people we elect
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do our fighting for us in the halls of government rather than us brawling it out in the streets,
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that is no longer the case.
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All right, so I guess it's time to brawl in the streets, Harrison.
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I don't like his understanding of politics very much.
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It can't be war deferred and also a replacement for war.
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It's a delaying tactic.
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If that's your description of democracy, we have a real problem.
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It's troubling.
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I think, again, this is just like him repeating things he's heard that do sound pretty good
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if you're not paying attention.
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Yeah, they do sound good.
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Yeah, they roll off you pretty okay.
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Politics is war deferred sounds like something someone strong would say.
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Now here's the thing that's really funny.
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He's introducing a report from Alex because Alex went on that rant about migrants and
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so he's going to play that, but what's really funny is that at the end of that rant that
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Alex did, he throws it to a Harrison Smith piece and so at the end of the video that
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Harrison plays, Alex references a Harrison Smith video and then there's a long silence
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or Harrison's like, oh God.
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Okay, so it's like an ouroboros of bullshit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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But this gets Harrison into thinking about how like, hey, if you're white and you're
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young, shit's going to be bad.
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If you're...
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Yeah, yeah.
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Calm down.
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Calm down.
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This is going to get really bad.
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Okay.
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But if you're like 50, you could just go out to the woods and wait it out.
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You'll be fine.
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All right.
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But your children.
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Okay.
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Oh, think of the children.
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Oh boy.
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If you're over 50 or whatever, you might be able to live the rest of your life off your
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meager retirement, enjoy it, have a nice little place in the mountains, watch the sunset,
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drink your wine, listen to your old music, but your children and your children's children
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are going to be a despised minority with no rights, no future, no ability to make anything
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of themselves robbed constantly and the money given to people who hate them in order to
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replace them.
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Okay.
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So you can't just ignore this anymore.
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And if you do, you're part of the problem.
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You need to be involved.
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You need to be aware and we need to fight.
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Not politically, literally.
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I'm not calling for violence.
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I'm letting you know violence is upon us implemented through the state.
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So you're surgically.
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So there seems to me to be very little difference between that mentality that Harrison is expressing
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and the tiki torch wielding Nazis at the unite the right rally chanting Jews will not replace
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us.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to go with zero difference.
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I listened to info Wars a lot.
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In my perspective, that was a very explicit overt plea to white nationalism to the point
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where I was shocked by how blunt it was.
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I was wondering what was up here.
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So I went to the American journal page on band.video and there's some pretty mask off
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stuff going on over there.
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That doesn't surprise me.
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Perhaps the most telling video title you'll immediately be confronted by is from January
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21st titled quote, stop white genocide.
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That is an intensely direct title for a video and the description really says it all quote
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Harrison Smith explains why migration is the choice weapon of the elite when trying to
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dominate and destroy a population.
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Okay.
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Oh boy.
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It's tough to be more clear than this.
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Harrison Smith is explicitly disseminating white nationalist narratives on the info Wars
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morning show, which I recall, if I recall correctly, is supposed to be almost entirely
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phone calls.
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Yeah, I do remember that being the plan.
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This is not something that's just like tacitly supported by Alex by virtue of the fact that
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it's on his network.
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It's just a more explicit recitation of the talking points that Alex himself spouts constantly.
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Yeah.
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It's almost like Alex hired Steve Doocy.
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I didn't want to just point out that Harrison put out a video decrying his fears about white
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genocide and then say that the work was done.
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There are far too many lazy commentators who will react to titles of things without looking
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at the body of the piece and I strive not to fall into that trap.
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So I watched the video.
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The structure that Harrison is going for is to make the argument that the treatment of
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white Europeans in the United States is the same as the treatment of the Uyghur people
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by the Chinese government, and if people are comfortable with saying that the treatment
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of the Uyghurs could be called genocide, then Harrison's well within his rights to claim
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that white people are the target of a genocide here and in Europe.
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Uh.
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Right.
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In order to bolster this claim, Harrison does some pretty predictable false equivalencies.
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For instance, he mentions that the Chinese government is accused of forcing Uyghurs to
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be sterilized or be required to take birth control.
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Harrison then claims that this is the same as the U.S. offering people birth control
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and that somehow decades of propaganda are responsible for people making family planning
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choices.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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This is a completely insane false equivalence and I don't see a good way for Harrison to
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defend that flimsy ass plank in his argument.
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So he doesn't.
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He just says it.
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No, I don't think there's any way not to hear him say this and think what you're saying
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is white men are going to be treated like white men have treated everybody else in this
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country and that's worthy of killing everyone.
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Hmm?
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Maybe?
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Yeah.
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So then, Harrison gets to the point in the video where the argument pivots to immigration
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because at this point, you know, at the beginning he's laying out this groundwork and he's saying
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that it's the same as the treatment of the Uyghurs.
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Sure.
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Nonsense.
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Naturally.
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Harrison's primary source that he's reading from is a July 4th article that was posted
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on NPR.
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Here Harrison discusses his contention that white people are being the subject of genocide.
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As the government, and get this, and if this isn't genocide, I don't know what is.
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The government has brought millions of Han Chinese settlers into the region with promises
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of high salary, jobs, and free housing.
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My God, ethnic migrants, economic migrants coming into a region for high paying jobs?
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That's genocide, obviously, when it's in China.
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What about here?
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It's diversity here.
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You have to understand the distinction, folks.
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Do you support giving First Nations land back?
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When happening to you, it's a good thing.
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It's diversity.
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It's our strength.
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It's what we need.
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When it's happening to Uyghur Muslims in China, it's genocide, by God.
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What about white people?
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This is what people...
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I don't know.
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I mean...
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Hello.
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Hello.
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Come on.
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Wake up, dammit.
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So a couple of important points here.
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The first is that the guy who was interviewed by NPR does not say that the form of immigration
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that Harrison is discussing is genocide.
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He says that it's a part of a, quote, policy of ethno-racial domination, which is still
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bad, but it's not the same thing.
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Harrison stops reading right before the guy says, quote, the reason why this has changed,
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we do need to probably call it a genocide, is quite simply because the evidence now for
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the first time very specifically meets one of the five criteria set forth by the UN Convention
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for the Punishment and Prevention of the Crime of Genocide from 1948, which specifically
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says the suppression of birth.
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This guy is clearly expressing that bringing the Han Chinese to replace Uyghur workers
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doesn't meet the definition of genocide.
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But now that there's evidence of birth suppression, that does meet the definition according to
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this guy.
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Yeah.
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Harrison is completely misrepresenting this researcher's words because his agenda is to
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yell about immigration to the United States and stress white aggrievement, not to cover
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any of these issues in a meaningful way that helps the audience better understand the world
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and hopefully pushes public opinion towards better policy preferences.
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He's trying to make white people scared of non-white people, and he's trying to use the
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prop of the Chinese state oppression in order to justify his shoddy arguments.
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None of the complaints that Harrison brings up here rise to the level of meeting the UN
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definition of genocide, which is the standard of the conversation as presented in his primary
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source.
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Article 2 of the UN Convention lays out the five acts that constitute genocide, and what
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makes it an even more difficult argument for Harrison to make is that it says, quote, genocide
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means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part,
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a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group.
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The word intent is going to be a really serious problem for Harrison.
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The argument he's setting out to make requires that he somehow demonstrate that immigration
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of non-white people into the United States is being done with the intention of destroying
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in whole or in part white people.
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That's going to be really impossible for him to do without slipping into explicit white
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supremacist or neo-Nazi conspiracy theories.
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I mean, I would just have to say, manifest destiny, and if you want to start pulling
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some shit, then fine, start giving land back to the First Nations.
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Otherwise shut the fuck up, because these are the people who celebrate manifest destiny
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as the greatest thing that's ever happened.
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Well, it had something to do with God telling.
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So Harrison goes on to complain some more in this piece.
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We're taking a little side tour into his Stop White Genocide video, so this isn't from the
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inauguration day, but I got really sort of curious when he was talking about your ancestors
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being a hated minority, and all of that, it was like, this seems like code, and I wanted
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to understand a little better, and then I found this Stop White Genocide piece, and
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I was like, holy shit.
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The United Nations Convention for the Punishment and Prevention of the Crime of Genocide from
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1948 specifies the suppression of birth as one of the primary attributes of a genocide.
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Now, if I was some sort of insane conspiracy theorist, I might point to the ongoing attempt
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by many, many mainstream outlets to suppress the birth rate of white Americans.
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Say white people don't have children.
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You shouldn't have children, white people.
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It goes on and on and on.
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We've seen this headline over and over again, but that's not genocide.
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That's a good thing, because remember, white people bad.
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I don't think that makes Harrison sound like a conspiracy theorist.
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I think it makes him sound like a flagrant racist.
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That's exactly what it makes him sound like.
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Harrison Smith isn't seeing the media constantly saying that white people shouldn't have kids
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because they're not.
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He's seeing things like interracial couples represented in commercials and sitcoms, and
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he's experiencing that as an attempt to say that white people shouldn't just reproduce
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with each other.
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I decided to check out what happens when you Google white people shouldn't have kids.
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Looking for some headlines, looking for some digging around.
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Can I guess, just real quick, you are going to find roughly 10,000 reactionary right-wing
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articles about this, and very few, if any.
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Not so much.
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I found the first eight results are just about raising children who are capable of talking
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about race issues.
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Oh, that's nice.
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I don't say that white people shouldn't have kids.
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The ninth result is a 2017 article out of The Independent titled, quote, seven reasons
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people shouldn't have children according to science.
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That has nothing to do with white people not having kids.
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It's more of an exploration of the research into things like changing friendships after
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one person has a kid and the other doesn't, or how according to one poll, quote, non-parents
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tend to lead healthier lifestyles than parents.
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Was that the one, okay, that was 2017, right?
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Yeah.
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I was interviewed for that one, and they rejected mine, which was white people don't have kids.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Maybe Harrison got the early version.
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Maybe Harrison accidentally talked to that one.
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Then the results go back to being about, you know, people being able to talk about race
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with children.
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The closest thing that gets really, like, the closest to really complex racial issues
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that you find is that there's a couple articles about, like, the dynamics of adoption.
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Yeah, trans adoption is a real huge, yeah.
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You see some articles discussing that, but that's not what Harrison's talking about.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You can't tell page seven of the search results to actually even find an article that's actually
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about people advocating that people not have children, and again, it's not race-based.
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It's a 2019 editorial piece on the BBC about a group called the Antinatalists, who just
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want no one to have kids.
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Yeah, well.
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And there's also the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement there, but that's not racially based
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either.
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I assume Harrison also looked up a lot of New York Times articles and the like from
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anywhere between 1878 and 1939, whenever everyone was advocating for black people to voluntarily
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not have children ever again?
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Nah.
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Oh, okay.
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I don't know.
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I would like some citations.
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I don't think that Harrison's making a serious point here.
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I think this is just a white identity talking point being presented as if it represents
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reality.
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Totally.
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And that's fucking gross.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I would like more ideas, I would like concrete examples of what white men are going
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to face, young white men are going to face, and I would like him to put those up on a
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wall somewhere, just so we can refer back to them every time one of them occurs, I imagine.
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I also just resent when people like this present this idea, like, we've seen all the hundred
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articles telling white people not to have kids.
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I haven't.
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Name one.
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Yeah.
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Pick one.
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Yeah.
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And also, it can't be something that's clearly satire.
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Yeah.
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And it can't be something that you said.
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Okay, if it's McSweeney's or me, then you don't get to reference it.
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So like I said, this entire argument really just hinges on Harrison trying to make the
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treatment of white people be equivalent to the Uyghur and other minority treatment in
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China.
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Sure.
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I want to continue to lay out the case for white genocide, I guess, is what I'm doing
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here, because after all, I'm one of these crazy conspiracy theorists that thinks genocide
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is bad.
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I agree.
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I know.
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It's just, it's just nutty.
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I have this weird consistency where I think the genocide of the Uyghur people in China
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is bad, and I think the genocide of European people in Europe is also bad.
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I don't understand the complex geography that goes into determining whether one is
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bad or not.
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I just, I'm just such a simple guy.
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To me, genocide equals bad, and I just don't have the college thinking, the university
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brain that's necessary to understand why it's good when it's against white people and bad
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when it's against the Uyghur minority.
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I just, I just am too dumb, I guess.
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I don't know.
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I don't think Harrison is too stupid.
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His problem isn't stupidity or not understanding, it's that he's outrageously racist, and he's
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also unfortunately smart enough to know that it's bad for business to just admit that and
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live openly.
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That's why he has to make these strained comparisons and false equivalencies to try
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to pretend that the experience of being white in the United States or in Europe is in any
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way comparable to being Uyghur in China.
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That's a ludicrous proposition, and it's why he has to pretend that allegations of
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forced sterilization in China are the same as the availability of birth control here.
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Any right thinking person would hear that argument and recognize pretty quickly how
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stupid it is, but that's because it's a crypto argument.
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The argument or the false equivalence doesn't actually exist to be taken seriously.
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It's only there because Harrison knows he can't come out and express his true white
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nationalist positions without consequences.
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I wouldn't say that genocide against Uyghurs is bad and genocide against white people is
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good.
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I would contest Harrison's point that the situations each group are facing are in any
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way comparable, and that's where Harrison's argument would completely fall apart.
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I know that because I was listening to a twenty minute video where he's trying to defend
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that premise and he's failing embarrassingly and really letting his racism show.
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But that said, the Lonely Shepherd by Zamfir slaps.
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Okay.
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All right.
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All right.
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Okay.
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The king of the pan flute.
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Oh.
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Harrison does have a couple of decent music choices.
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Okay.
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He has some good cues that I haven't heard from other Infowars shows, including the Lonely
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Shepherd.
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Yeah.
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I mean I would-
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I guess it's the morning show.
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You gotta be a little chiller.
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Yeah.
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That pan flute really does-
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That wakes you up.
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That Zamfir branded himself the king of the pan flute as if it was a crowded space.
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Pop culture pan flutist.
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I think that's why you have to brand yourself as a bombastic something, otherwise people
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aren't gonna be like, oh this guy's really good at the pan flute.
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He's the king of the pan flute.
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It's like Chuck Mangione, the king of the flugelhorn.
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He is the king of the flugelhorn, that's true.
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No one's gonna fuck with his title.
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He's not wrong.
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No.
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He's not wrong.
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The Children of Sanchez, such a good song.
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Good soundtrack.
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Alright.
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Anyway.
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Harrison gets to going about, eh, he just keeps going.
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Yeah.
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The 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which
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has been ratified by at least 149 countries, including China, defines genocide as any of
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these acts committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
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Killing its members, causing them seriously bodily or mental harm.
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By the way, vast, vast majority of suicides, vast majority of medication for depression,
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is all on white people.
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But that's a good thing because white people are evil.
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So even assuming that everything Harrison just said is true from a statistical perspective,
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it's still meaningless in terms of his argument that there's a white genocide going on.
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Again, he's using this 1948 UN definition of genocide that includes the word intent
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as a really important element of the definition.
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I mean, Harrison works for Infowars, so he probably shouldn't even care what the UN thinks
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about the subject, but he's operating off that definition, so that's the conversation
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that's being had.
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In order for his argument to carry any weight, Harrison is going to have to demonstrate and
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prove the following.
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One, that there are in fact disproportionate medication and suicide rates between races
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that cannot be explained by other factors, like income inequality or access to healthcare.
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Two, that this is the result of a concerted plan by some group as an attempt to destroy
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white people.
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Harrison can't even come close to either of these.
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The best he can do is suggest that mental health practices like psychiatric medication
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are an attempt to kill off white people, and suggest that that's the way it is because
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someone's out to get white people.
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That's all he can do, because there is no argument here.
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There's only an appeal to emotion, only an appeal to fear.
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This is an attempt to give racist people listening a way to express their racism without sounding
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racist.
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It's honestly pretty pathetic.
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Yeah.
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Also, a recent paper from the Division of Vital Statistics out of the CDC reflects that
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in 2017, once you adjust for population, the group with by far the highest rate of suicide
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is non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native women.
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I eagerly await Harrison's coverage of that.
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Yeah, I would be interested to hear that.
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Oh, I know, I wouldn't be interested to hear that.
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So in order to bolster his claims that there's a white genocide going on, Harrison brings
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up the case of Ireland.
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He seems to think that their entire population is going to be replaced with immigrants because
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of a need to do so in order to make their pension system work.
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Here's the profoundly racist and idiotic way that his segment on white genocide ends, and
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I will explain to you on the other side why this is very dumb.
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I don't like what's happening to the Uyghurs in China.
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We should be defending these people who are being systematically eradicated by their governmental
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organizations.
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And on the other hand, I don't want the people of Ireland to be systematically eliminated
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by their super state governmental organization.
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I don't think the pension system is worth replacing every single person in your country
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with a foreigner.
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There's plenty to go around.
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Hell, there's more, there's more Bangladeshis in a single district of a single city of that
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country than there are in the entire nation of Ireland.
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So maybe we can help out Ireland, maybe we can help increase the birth rates, maybe we
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can stop this genocide, at least in Ireland, and then maybe we can expand that to the rest
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of the world and recognize that white people are a global minority, the least population
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out of any racial division, if you want to take the big ones, Asian, black, whatever.
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Whites are the smallest, and they're being genocided, and that's the headline.
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Stop white genocide.
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So Harrison is working off a primary source that's an article in the Independent out of
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Ireland.
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The headline of the article is, quote, Ireland needs four million migrants to sustain state
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pension system.
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Harrison takes that information and combines it with the fact that Ireland's population
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is only like five million, so that must mean that they want to replace everyone with immigrants
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to save the pension system.
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Yeah, that sounds like the Irish.
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The problem is that Harrison didn't do any work, like even reading the article.
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The first thing that jumps out at you if you do read the article is that the idea that
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the country needed four million migrants to make the pension system work was something
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that was used as an illustration of the problem the country was facing regarding having an
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aging population and meeting the pensions, in a meeting of the Pensions Committee.
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It wasn't being suggested as the plan to fix the pension system.
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They were saying that by 2051 they would need four million new people paying into the system
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to balance out all the people over 65 drawing from it.
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If Harrison wasn't such a dopey racist fuck, he would have kept reading to the part of
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the article where it says, quote, but the statistician and commission members say it's
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unlikely that net inward migration will reverse the current trends, and some migrants would
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become pensioners themselves.
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This article is about a discussion of why this wouldn't be a solid plan to fix the
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pension system, because if that were the only approach taken, you'd end up creating more
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net problems for the pension system than you fix.
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The article goes on to say, quote, Irish fiscal advisory council chair Sebastian Barnes said
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tax and spending would have to adjust to fund pensions while pension age would need to rise.
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Social protection minister Heather Humphreys spoke at the first meeting and made it clear
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that a reduction in the amount of state pension was not to be considered.
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This article is not about Ireland bringing in four million migrants to fix the pension
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system, but the headline is written in such a way that it's easy to use it that way.
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The four million number is used as an illustration of the imbalance that will exist between those
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paying into the system and those drawing from it, but because the headline is poorly written
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and because Harrison's a lazy craven racist, this article can be used to justify an argument
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that Ireland is engaging in white genocide in order to save its pension system.
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Harrison knows what he's doing.
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He knows that this article isn't about bringing in four million migrants to Ireland, but he
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also knows that because it looks like it is, he can mislead his audience into thinking
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that it is and hide his racist agenda behind that misrepresentation.
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Anyway, that's the end of our side tour through Harrison Smith's piece on white genocide.
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I can say with a fair amount of confidence that this special report was quite possibly
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the most transparent and most poorly argued racism I've ever seen on Infowars.
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It's the racism equivalent of Harrison saying that the capital had fallen and patriots were
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in charge on January 6th.
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He's not hiding what he is.
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Yeah.
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He is a fucking...
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Yeah, this is...
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Because what is he saying whenever he says we can stop the genocide of Ireland is just
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we can make sure that Ireland remains a white nation, and then we can save everybody else.
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So Europeans for European nations, Africans for African nations, Chinese people for China,
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and no mixing at all.
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And the primary source that he's working off of for this article is a headline that he's
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misrepresenting in a way to use as a racist cudgel.
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Totally.
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Like, it's outrageous.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's to be expected on some level, but it's pretty...
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It's like using story math problems as like, okay, if the migrant caravan is racing towards
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the border at 60 miles an hour, but the white nationalists are going towards the border
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from the opposite direction at 50 miles an hour, then the white people will be exterminated.
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I don't like this quiz.
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Bad quiz.
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Yeah, it is a bad quiz.
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I started to wonder about this, and one of the things that I think is interesting is
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that like, yeah, I mean, a lot of the same themes are exactly the same as what Alex talks
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about, but just more crypto.
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Like Alex is way, way less close to the edge, let's say, than Harrison, because he knows
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that there's consequences for being too overtly racist.
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People will treat you in a certain way.
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He'll lose his ability to argue, oh, everyone says I'm a racist, they all lie about me,
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that kind of shit.
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I just wonder, you know, it makes me feel like there's two possible dynamics, and one
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is that like Alex is thinking, fuck it, let Harrison do a show that's extreme as hell.
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Test the white nationalist water.
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Yeah, let's see if that's a tap market that we can tap.
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Is anybody going to punish us for this?
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Or is it the case that Alex has run out of fucking steam to the point where a bigot like
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Harrison is taking over, or not taking over the whole thing, but like he has his own show
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and he's like, I'm going to speak to you fucking freely, I don't care, who else are you going
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to get to host a show?
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You need to sell your dumb pills.
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That's fair.
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I don't know, it's outrageous though, like I think that Harrison might be a much bigger
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problem than he appears.
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I mean, Harrison isn't even smart enough to do the dumbest, easiest thing that you can
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possibly do, which is immediately do what Alex does after saying something that's explicitly
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white nationalist and say, now you know me, I don't care about white, black, Hispanic
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or whatever.
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He doesn't even bother to do that cop out.
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No.
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What an asshole.
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Because I think he's speaking.
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He's just a white nationalist, yeah.
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Speaking freely.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, now we jump back to inauguration day.
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Sure.
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Sorry to take that side tour, but I felt like it was important.
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It was a good detour.
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Does that...
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You got to know when the whites are coming.
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Well, I mean, I really felt like that was something...
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That's my argument for white genocide.
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You got to know when they're coming.
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I felt like that was something that was behind the clip of him talking about your children
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will be hated minorities.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Look how that is.
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I was not wrong to suspect that this is the kind of thing you talk about.
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Yeah.
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And now we get back to the 20th and this is a scary thought.
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So we know how fake the news is.
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Imagine how fake history is.
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You see this play out in real time.
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We see the truth with our own eyes and then we hear the lies about it.
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We see the truth of the past.
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Head back to us.
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Imagine how false history is.
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That is so scary.
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That mentality is so scary, especially considering a week ago we had Alex presenting a completely
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false version of Hitler's rise to power.
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InfoWars does so much historical revisionism surrounding very serious issues.
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You know, hey, we've created an alternative reality for us to live in and we say that
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everybody else is lying.
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Can you imagine how much more lies are going on with history?
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Yeah.
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It's fucked up.
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You're, you're basically, yeah, you're, you're absolutely right.
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Like, hey, we've defeated reality in the present.
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Our only way to go now is the past unless somebody invents a time machine.
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Well, I think, I think that that's been the project of a lot of fascist types for a long
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time.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, neo-Nazis have revisionist ideas about what happened in Germany.
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Well, I mean, when you allow the Texas board to have any influence over textbooks whatsoever,
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you're not going to get a real history.
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Alex has revisionist ideas about the Confederacy.
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It's not, it's not too surprising.
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How many people learned that it was about states' rights in school?
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How many people?
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Probably Alex.
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Millions, millions, maybe the entire country in our elementary school system that is designed
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to teach you history and for you to take into the world, they lied straight to your face
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when you were seven.
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What are you going to do?
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So Harrison is, is going on here on inauguration day and he's talking about how the, the mainstream
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media, the MSM, the globalists, they've taken the people who believe that Trump won and
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they've turned the idea that Trump won into the big lie that they're being misrepresented.
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This is just nonsense.
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This they're calling the big lie and they're saying, even pointing this out or people trying
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to represent their constituents who are all calling out saying, this was fake, please,
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for the love of God, you're supposed to be our representative.
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Please say something, please stop this deal from going forward.
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They are now being portrayed as racist, fascist, implementing a new Jim Crow.
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I mean, this is absurd.
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This is beyond anything we've ever experienced before and at the heart of it.
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This is a war against white people.
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That's what you have to realize.
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They are making a concerted effort now.
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They're out in the open.
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They're not hiding it.
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They're not couching it in any friendly phrases.
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They're saying white people are bad, must be destroyed, must be rooted out, must be
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ripped out by the roots, must be eliminated from this country.
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So at this point I got a little bit worried.
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I was like, I'm listening to, I was just checking in on inauguration day.
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I got a little sniff of something that I thought maybe Harrison was a bigot.
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I went and watched his stop white genocide video.
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Now I come back to the inauguration, he's talking about the war on whites.
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The war on white people.
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Oh no.
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I was like, what did I get into?
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They've declared war on the whites.
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It wasn't that white nationalists literally tried to overthrow the country.
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They've declared war on all white people.
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I was like, okay, when I sat down to prepare this episode, I was thinking, all right, I'll
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breeze through Harrison's dumb ass and then we'll get to Alex and that'll be when the
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episode really begins.
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No, this is going to be half the episode probably talking about Harrison Smith.
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Brutal.
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Yeah.
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Brutal.
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Terrible.
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He is real biggity.
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Let's just stop for one second and remember that the evil globalists are now declaring
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war on white people.
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According to Harrison.
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Even though last year, only a few months ago, their plan B was murdering everyone.
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Sure.
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Well, plan B is not to be remembered now because it's not the profitable angle.
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Well, that's fair.
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Yeah.
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We have, uh, we've gotten a new sales flow chart.
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Now it's white.
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Whiteness only.
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Certainly for Harrison's show.
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Yeah.
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So he also wishes that Trump was a little bit more authoritarian and he's talking about
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this in the framework of sort of optics differences between Trump's inauguration and Biden's.
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Um, he's being really dumb here.
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When Donald Trump won duly elected, nobody expected it, but he did it.
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He pulled it out.
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He pulled, he pulled through.
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He got elected president of the United States and everybody was very, very concerned about
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authoritarianism.
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I'll tell you if in 2016, before the Trump inauguration, DC was filled with 65,000 troops
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and there were people going on TV who were heads of the army saying, we need to have
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purity tests and we need to kick out anybody that doesn't adhere to our view of what it
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is to be an American and reality entire national mall was covered in flags because they weren't
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letting any people come.
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And the entire city of Washington, DC was locked down like the green zone in Iraq.
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You tried to throw a little freaked out.
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I would have thought, Oh God, maybe this is the authoritarianism they're warning about.
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Of course that didn't happen.
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None of that happened.
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Nothing.
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Just authoritarian in the slightest.
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I wish it had been more so.
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I wish he had been more like the, the monster that they portrayed him as.
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Maybe we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now if he'd actually used an iron fist.
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Ah, what a shock.
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Someone who works at info wars revealing that they wish Trump was a dictator.
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If they think history is a lie, these motherfuckers can't remember two weeks ago clearly.
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No, I know.
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That was the thing that really bothered me about that, like, uh, that description of
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the inauguration.
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It was like, you're pretending there's no cause to these effects.
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Did, did I, Dan, now I could be wrong, but I don't remember in January of 2017, uh, liberals
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overthrowing the Capitol.
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No, that didn't happen.
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That didn't happen?
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And that kind of affects this inauguration.
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Also, the smaller crowds pandemic, the flags also about a memorial to those lost.
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Representative to the pandemic.
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They keep bringing up the flags as if it's just like a way to fill space because people
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couldn't be there.
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It's like, no, there was a symbolic meaning to that.
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Yeah, it wasn't that we committed, uh, oh, well, I mean, some could argue even a genocide
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with intent to kill the poor.
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If you go back and look at Kushner's fucking statements.
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And then, uh, in terms of like, uh, the screening of service members, that is also because some
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were involved in storming the Capitol.
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There was that.
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Um, yeah.
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So I mean, like, I think that when you have a situation like that, um, it's important
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not to allow yourself to give in to the impulse to go on a McCarthy-esque witch hunt.
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But at the same time, the conversation about extremism and extremists infiltrating law
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enforcement and, uh, uh, the, the services like that is something that is long overdue.
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Uh, but you have to retain your, your, uh, sensibility about it.
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You can't just be like, oh, this guy donates to the Heritage Foundation.
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Yeah.
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Therefore he's an extremist.
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No.
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You can't go that far.
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No.
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You need to be careful.
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But that's a conversation that you should never pretend you can have with someone like
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Harrison Smith.
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Yeah, no, it wasn't like in 1863 Lincoln was like, well, of course I need to have a confederate
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in my secret service detail.
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Why wouldn't I have a confederate soldier in my secret service team?
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It would be discrimination for me to get rid of this literal enemy of the United States
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from my secret service detail.
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And then I would also like to say, um, just in the same way that like the screening of
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things is like a very sensible, reasonable thing.
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You can understand why it would happen, but you have to resist going too far with it.
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Of course.
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I would say that the, like the presence of security forces in, uh, and around the inauguration
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is something that I don't like to see.
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It's not good.
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No, it's fucked up.
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Yeah.
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I can be against that.
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And at the same time, be enough of an adult to understand why it's happening.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't have to, I can, I can be against the militarization of the police and still
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recognize, hey, some people fucking stormed the Capitol a week, two weeks ago.
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And I understand that you're like, oh no, there were so many troops there.
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I understand that.
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But you need to understand there were so many there because they're worried.
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There are a lot of you wanting to overthrow the United States government.
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And there were people online, uh, impotently or sincerely discussing plans for other, uh,
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things.
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You know, and I do think that probably if it was less or if it was more than two weeks
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in between, there might've been a better solution that would have been available.
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But it's a really, it's a really time crunch kind of situation.
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Well, you know, America, we never overreact to situations.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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And again, like what I'm saying is those things are valid concerns to have.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Just not something that you should ever find common cause or ally ship with info warriors
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about because they're not sincere.
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And it's your fault that those things happened.
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Well, anyway.
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You are the one who literally said the Capitol has fallen to the Patriots.
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He did, but he pretends that he didn't because he's against it now.
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Sure.
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Fuck off.
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No, you don't get to do this.
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He shouldn't.
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So, um, you may recall that Alex has said that, uh, if the host of the American journal
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doesn't take calls, they will not be hosting it any longer.
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That is true.
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Harrison doesn't take calls immediately, but he does get to some calls and these calls
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are not good.
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Filled with happy people.
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Oh boy.
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Greetings Harrison.
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This is the Renegade Patriot in Ohio.
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I use this calling in because, uh, I've been listening for 11 years in silence, but I prompted
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me to make my own YouTube channel that was inspired partly by info wars and by a political
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prisoner named Charles Dyer, Sergeant Charles Dyer, known as July four Patriot on YouTube.
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In case you're curious, Charles Dyer is not a political prisoner in 2012, he was convicted
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of sexually abusing his six year old daughter and sentenced to 30 years in jail.
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He's been turned into the hero of the extreme right wing who curiously call everyone they
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don't like pedophiles because he was a member of the oath keepers and was the type of extreme
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right wing militia guy that when his house was searched, they found a fucking grenade
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launcher.
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Anyway, it says a whole lot about a fellow when they call into Harrison's show and say
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they were inspired to start a YouTube channel because of info wars and Charles Dyer.
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Yeah, that one, that one solves most problems.
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Now that caller was bad.
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Yeah.
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Not great.
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Yeah.
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Nothing compared to this next caller.
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Oh, that's not good.
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This caller is...
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It can't escalate.
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Oh boy.
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After analyzing the top 10 high rank picks for Biden, all 10 of them have a dual citizenship
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in the state of Israel.
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So you know, Trump tried his best to get that support from the Israeli lobby and really
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he was basically the best president for Israel ever.
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I mean, that's actually true, yet it didn't even work.
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They don't support him now and they're all, Biden's their man.
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So we've been over this before, but when you hear a right wing dumb dumb like this caller
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bring up someone having dual citizenship with Israel, it's an expression of deep antisemitism.
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It goes hand in hand with the Holocaust didn't happen.
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This guy wants to complain that Biden has Jewish people in his cabinet, but he knows
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that that looks bad.
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So he tries to couch things, tries to couch that hatred of Jews and language that has
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to do with concerns about dual citizenship.
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This is a classic neo-Nazi talking point that the Jewish criminals who they believe run
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the world, they don't care that what they're doing is illegal because their Jewish heritage
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gives them right of return citizenship in Israel.
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So they can just flee there and avoid being held accountable.
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Uh, Dan, I saw Die Hard 2.
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Diplomatic immunity.
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This is what's at the core of this caller and what he's expressing here.
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And it's been an insidious antisemitic trope for decades.
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Since Die Hard 2.
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This caller, incidentally, is just responding to a meme that went around on Twitter from
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an account called Syndrome of a Down, which claimed, quote, all 10 of Biden's high profile
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appointees are Jews.
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That's right, every single one.
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This is accompanied by a screenshot depicting 10 Biden appointees next to Israeli flags,
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which is unsettling.
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This is a really simple game this Nazi is playing where they just cherry pick Jewish
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people Biden has appointed to various offices, then assert baselessly that these 10 are the
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most high profile appointees, whatever that means, and that it's suspicious that these
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people are Jewish.
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Of course.
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This is transparent.
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And anyone who's calling in to enforce to repeat this talking point is absolutely an
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antisemite until proven otherwise.
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Totally.
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Quite a show Harrison is hosting here, just full of white identity based fear, callers
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inspired by patriot pedophiles and potential neo-Nazis.
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Yep.
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Now, Harrison tries to fact check this guy.
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Oh yeah?
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And he finds the meme.
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Oh my God.
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And so he just reads the meme.
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Is Joe Rogan fact checking here?
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Yeah.
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Hell, you're making a lot of good points.
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You have, uh, the, the image here that's been going around all 10 of Biden's high profile
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appointees are Jews and dual citizens with Israel.
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You have secretary of the treasury, Janet Yellen, attorney general, Merrick Garland,
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secretary of home real quick there.
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The meme that he's reading off of doesn't say and dual citizens of Israel.
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It just says Jews.
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Yeah.
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Harrison has added that because he realizes don't want to do it.
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Oh boy.
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I'm going to hit that J too hard.
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I have to soften this a little bit.
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Otherwise, otherwise it looks as antisemitic as it is.
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Yeah.
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Homeland security, Alejandro Mayorkas, uh, director of national intelligence, Avril Haines,
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uh, white house chief of staff, Ron Klain, secretary of state, Anthony Blinken, deputy
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secretary of state, Wendy Sherman, secretary of state for political affairs, Victoria Newland,
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the office of science and technology policy, Eric Lander, director of the central intelligence
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agency, David S. Cohen.
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Now call me crazy.
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I think the people serving in our government serving in the American government should
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not be dual citizens with another country.
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Am I crazy for thinking, am I an anti-Semite?
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Yes.
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You are super antisemitic.
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That is exactly what you are.
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That's really, really bad when you traffic in dual loyalty tropes about Jewish Americans.
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It's super basic stuff in terms of antisemitism and I can explain one of the reasons why it's
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really obvious.
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Harrison's complaint is that these people are dual citizens in the United States and
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Israel.
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Having dual citizenship in this case is defined, defined solely as these people being Jewish.
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Insisting the people who have dual citizenship being in government is suspicious or wrong
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is really just a way for these people to say that they think Jewish people shouldn't be
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in government without having to say something so obviously antisemitic.
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Harrison isn't an idiot.
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He understands this dynamic fully well.
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He's a flagrant bigot who knows that daddy Alex will fire him if he speaks too freely,
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I suspect.
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And so you do stuff like this.
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This is outrageous.
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This can't be like, I was aghast at this.
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This is not what I expected on inauguration day.
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Out and out white supremacy?
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And yeah, yeah.
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Honestly I kind of was expecting this on inauguration day because you can't say that they're going
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to kill everybody now.
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I expected it before.
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Well we've seen plenty of it before.
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But this is- Not quite.
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Not quite.
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No Jews should be in the government.
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And maybe it's a function of Harrison Smith being like not a great broadcaster.
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That he's being this- Yeah, yeah.
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This transparent about it.
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He doesn't have the chops to be less racist.
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Man, and this caller keeps going.
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Oh.
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Why?
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Well remember there was this nice sweet little Jewish lady who came onto Oprah and said that
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within the Jewish community there are people who are not Jewish.
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They're hiding under Judaism but they're not Jews.
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They don't follow Moses, they don't follow the Torah, they don't follow the Ten Commandments
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so if you're a Jew and you actually follow the Ten Commandments, you know, you're not
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the problem.
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We're not talking about you.
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But there are people who hide behind this Judaism and she openly admitted they are breeding
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babies with really obese people who you can't even tell they're pregnant.
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And then they do satanic rituals and when Oprah asked her, why are you doing this?
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She goes, for power.
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Like it was an obvious thing, like you should know.
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So I don't think these people are actually Jews.
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I think they're part of an organization that is satanic that is hiding behind Judaism.
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Wow.
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I was listening to this caller go hard on the antisemitism and listening to Harrison
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be completely open to it and not shut it down at all and I was thinking, I wonder how long
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it's going to be until we get into blood libel.
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Yeah.
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Turns out not too long.
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Not long at all.
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This Oprah segment that the caller is bringing up is from May 1989 and it was a huge embarrassment
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for Oprah.
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What happened is that there was that whole satanic panic going on in America.
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The McMartin preschool trial was in its like sixth year and lurid stories of ritualistic
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satanic abuse were widespread, the idea that they were widespread in every neighborhood,
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that was drawing ratings.
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Oprah tried to do an episode of her talk show about ritualistic satanic abuse cases and
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one of her guests was a Jewish woman who told all sorts of insane stories about her family
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performing ritual murders since the 1700s, that it was prevalent in Jewish families and
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the police knew about it and didn't do anything.
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Huh.
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Oprah had attempted to frame the conversation by introducing the guest as someone who is
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quote mentally disturbed and under psychiatric care, but I think that's not good enough.
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A better move would not be doing this kind of interview with someone you have to preemptively
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introduce as an unreliable source of information.
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Just so everyone knows, I want you to say that this person is not fit to be on TV.
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Good.
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And now we're going to exploit her!
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Exactly!
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In the past it's putting a mentally unstable person in a position where they're being exploited
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for ratings and at worst it was allowing a mentally unstable person to spread deeply
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dangerous accusations about a religious community.
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Either way, if this had happened nowadays, Oprah's career would have been over.
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No, we would have fucked everybody up.
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Somehow in 1989.
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Ellen was just a dick!
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In 1989, you can have this kind of a scandal and granted, you know, I was able to find
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a bunch of articles about Oprah meeting with leaders in the Jewish community and apologizing
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and responding to criticism, but like, this should never have happened to begin with.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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So producers better have been fired.
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Yeah, it's a good thing that 30 years later we're still hearing about it.
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That's how good it was.
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Well, from Nazi callers on Harrison's Nazi show.
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Yeah, there's that.
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This show is absolutely mind-blowing and how offensive it is, this American Journal.
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Harrison Smith seems way, way more committed to or just willing to broadcast explicit racism
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and anti-semitism to the audience.
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Yeah.
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I was taken aback by how horrible this is.
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I would say, I think, I mean, maybe there's just a simple explanation, which is that Harrison
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isn't rich enough to want to protect money more than anybody who's not white.
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I can't imagine that he has a more lucrative offer than what he's doing at Infowars.
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Absolutely.
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And I can't imagine Alex pays him anywhere near what David Knight got.
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That's true.
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And I also, I would imagine that if Alex wanted him to curb these behaviors, he would.
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Maybe.
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And then he would get an alias and write a blog.
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Well, that's probably true.
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Start a YouTube channel where he wears a mask and bores everyone with racism.
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That would be linked back to Infowars.com too, yeah.
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Undoubtedly.
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Yeah.
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So Harrison takes another call and apparently what needs to happen is, you know how Infowars
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is obsessed with the idea that there are no-go zones all over Europe, where the Muslims won't
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let people in?
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Absolutely.
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Well, Harrison believes that they need to make some no-go zones in America, basically.
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Okay.
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Well, we're going to move into a very new dynamic.
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And I've said it before, I think geographic approximation will suddenly become very important.
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I think you need to find like-minded people that you can be near, that you can protect
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each other, that you can actually put up a substantial force in order to prevent the
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American forces from coming in and robbing you of the rights that you have as a sovereign
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individual.
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I think, you know, personally, maybe I'm a little biased because I'm from Texas, but
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I can't think of a better place to gather patriots and say, everybody who's out there
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in America, I know it would suck to have to leave your home and go to a different place,
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but if we stay de-separated, if we stay sort of in these small pockets around and around,
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they'll come one by one and scoop us all up.
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You have to, we have to gather in a single place.
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We have to defend that place.
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We have to create areas of land that the powers that be cannot break into, cannot get into.
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We need to have our own autonomous zones around the country.
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Okay.
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All I heard was, I thought sundown towns were a great idea and I don't understand why we
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ever stopped that.
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Was there something wrong with sundown towns, Dan?
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It's strange.
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Yeah.
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This show gets really weird and I lost my taste for it at a certain point.
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I have very much.
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I had a lot of conversation about getting people to move to Texas to secede.
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He has a South African caller lady who seems to think that apartheid didn't happen, but
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I couldn't make sense of what she was saying and so I don't have any clips of it.
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It was just, it was kind of all over the place.
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And so here is how he goes out to break before Alex joins him for a little guest appearance
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on the American Journal.
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This is bleak.
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Interesting agencies to review their actions and ensure racial equity.
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Everything's going to be based off this.
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He's talking about like some of Biden's policy initiatives.
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Yeah, I'm seeing it.
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Racial equity, which basically means robbing white people and rewarding non-white people
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in order to basically do a genocide on white people.
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I mean, it's not, let's not mince words here.
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Everything that the Chinese are doing to the Uyghur Muslims are exactly what the plans
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are for the Biden administration for white people.
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I mean, when you say it's a good thing and we're making policy in order to decrease the
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share of the population that white people hold, that is a genocidal policy.
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Let's again, let's not mince words, let's not pretend like this is something that it
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isn't.
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This is a genocidal policy to essentially eradicate anybody from standing up against
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these people.
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And it all has to do with the fact that white people historically have been the only civilization
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as far as the world is concerned that actually puts in freedom into their governmental organizations.
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And that is mostly based on the fact that Christianity is a European religion.
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So third hour begins on the other side.
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So now we've shifted into white supremacy from white nationalism.
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We're straight up there.
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No arguing that.
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You know, I will say this.
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This show is nuts.
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I will say this.
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I think Harrison has absolutely succeeded.
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When he said earlier, he is going to lay out the case for white genocide.
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I get what you're saying.
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He nailed it.
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Calm down.
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He nailed it.
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Calm down.
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Oh, he nailed it.
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Your satire.
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Your joke.
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Yeah.
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So Alex comes on to stop by the Journal and I was weirded out by this, actually.
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You're watching American Journal on Infowars.com, I'm Harrison Smith joined by Alex Jones.
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Welcome, Alex.
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Yeah, and I'm just popping in for a segment here to invite all your wonderful viewers
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to have our live coverage coming up here in just about 39 minutes of the installation
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of the inauguration of the communist Chinese spy, Biden.
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Why is Alex coming to promote his show on Harrison's show?
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Because the white nationalists are tuning in, Dan.
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Do get the sense that maybe Alex sees a different audience.
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Maybe Harrison is appealing to another audience that might not stick around to watch Alex.
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Yes.
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He's coming in to promote himself to them, because otherwise the only place you're watching
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the American fucking Journal is on Infowars' streams, which would automatically start playing
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Alex's show afterwards.
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I would like to welcome all the Red Ice listeners to Harrison Smith's show, and I just want
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to let you know that the Alex Jones show is up next.
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Yeah.
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So Alex thinks that people think he's soft, because he accepts that Trump is going to
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be leaving office.
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Sure.
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I've seen him on Infowars.com saying, how dare you say he would leave today.
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You're a traitor.
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You're agreeing with CNN as if as I magically said he was going to stay.
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He was going to stay.
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We literally talked to the president.
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Okay.
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I talked to two of his lawyers.
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I talked to somebody else very close to him the last few days, and he was going.
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As soon as he capitulated the day after January 6th, it was over.
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What happened January 6th?
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They sent in provocateurs.
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They sabotaged our operation, but that was a last-ditch Hail Mary to begin with.
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I was listening to that, and I was like, it's 10 a.m.
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You sound fucked up.
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He sounds not good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I also was like, he probably just woke up or something.
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You know, I wasn't sure, but I was worried.
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I was worried.
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The way he's talking is not normal Alex Jones.
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I would give him a hangover and a hair of the dog.
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I think that's what I'm hearing.
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That's kind of what I thought, but then he explains what's going on.
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OK.
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And so they don't want a big mainline debate about this.
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They want to have it be esoteric.
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They created a secret society to make people think that we're in the inside group with
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military intelligence and that everything was going to be fine, so people can be pacified.
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I'm going to move on from Q at that point.
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We'll talk about what Biden's going to do, how they're going to strangle this country
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during inauguration and afterwards.
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I do not have COVID or anything.
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I had some dental work done and got a little infection back on one of my tonsils have been
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to see the doctor.
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It's localized.
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It's fine.
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About a dime size rattle back in my throat, but I'm fine.
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I never take painkillers.
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I'm actually on painkillers right now.
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Oh, OK.
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So you're on painkillers.
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All right.
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Cool.
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Good time to be at work.
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All right.
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I'm just going to go.
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I'm just going to get some dental surgery.
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I talk for a living, dental surgery, the morning of Biden's inauguration and coming to work
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high on painkillers.
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That's what I got to do.
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That's what you got to do, Dan.
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Wow.
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Inauguration.
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The show must go on.
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I will say that I don't think it affects him nearly as much as it could have.
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Yeah.
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So it's not like he's fucked up.
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You could just hear like there's a there's something different in his delivery and that
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explains it.
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He had some dental work done.
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He's on some painkillers.
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Yeah.
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So I think that they thought that Biden would be giving his getting sworn in on Alex's show.
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Right.
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But that doesn't work out.
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No.
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And you know, we get all of that while Harrison is still hosting and Alex has left to prepare
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for his show.
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Yeah.
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And so Harrison tries.
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God bless him.
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He tries.
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Joe Biden probably wondering where the hell he is right now.
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Hey, there's a baby that knows what's going on.
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Hell yeah.
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That's great work, Harrison.
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That's great work.
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So Harrison just plays Biden's acceptance speech and he interrupts kind of limitedly
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because I think that he's just hoping that Biden will make a big flub and then respond
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to.
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Yeah.
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The whole narrative about Biden on Infowars is that he's senile and he can't form sentences.
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So honestly, I think this is a bad strategy.
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They're literally airing evidence that he can speak and make sentences, essentially
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debunking one of their big talking points.
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And that is how the journal wraps up.
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Yeah.
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The book.
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I assume he's a big enough man to apologize for saying that Joe Biden is not.
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Nope.
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He's not?
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They just sort of pretend that they never said that.
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Much like Harrison pretending that he didn't say the capital's fallen to the Patriots.
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Weird.
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Yeah.
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So Alex comes in and he knows what to do a little bit better than Harrison.
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Harrison just lets Biden talk for long stretches.
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Sure.
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Alex tries to mystery science theater that shit.
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Hell yeah.
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A few centuries ago, St. Augustine, a saint of my church, wrote that a people was a multitude
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defined by the common objects of their love, defined by the common objects of their love.
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What are the common objects we as Americans love?
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Children, you want to molest.
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Define us as Americans.
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I think we know opportunity, world government, security, liberty, the population, dignity,
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and honor.
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And yes, the truth.
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So yeah, that's, that's what you come to expect for watching a speech on Infowars.
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Yeah.
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You know, for somebody who thinks that Biden is senile, he got his speech patterns pretty
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well down.
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Uh, Alex knows when to jump in real quick about how much time he has.
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It seems like he, yeah.
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So Biden, in his speech, he proposes that his first act will be a moment of silence
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for the Americans lost to COVID.
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How does Alex take that?
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Well, it's interesting because we know that from listening to his show, he often has long
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stretches of dead air.
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Yeah.
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So a moment of silence should be no big deal.
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Takes nothing.
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Should be no big deal.
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It's a moment.
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In my first act as president, I'd like to ask you to join me in a moment of silent prayer.
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Remember all those who we lost in this past year to the pandemic, those 400,000.
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Most of which died of something else, husband's wife, son's daughters that came out of the
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Wuhan lab that your buddies, Obama and Fauci and Gates cooked up for becoming the people
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and the Democrat States.
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When you ship COVID patients into the nursing homes and kill people, I ask you, let's have
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a moment of silence for by the Democrats in the UN and the shy comms murdered.
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And my most silencer.
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We can't do that on our radio stations have silence once and it'll send everybody into
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a panic.
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Having a moment of silence.
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Alex pretends that he can't accept this moment of silence because of radio restrictions.
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That's such nonsense.
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He just has to interrupt the moment of silence to like not allow it to air.
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I would bet that he has like some spiritual explanation for it in his head.
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Like he, I can't allow, I can't allow Biden to have a spiritual moment on info war.
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Absolutely not.
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Yeah.
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That's really weird.
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He has to, he can't, he can't let it happen.
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So this next clip is maybe the only, uh, real moment where, uh, on Alex's show itself where
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I was like, Oh, those pills might be affecting you.
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Pass along a new and better world to our children.
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I believe we must, I'm sure you do as well.
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I believe we will.
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And when we do, we'll write the next great chapter in the history of the United States
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of America.
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A story.
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It might sound something like a song that means a lot to me.
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It's called American anthem.
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And there there's one verse that stands out, at least for me, like this work and prayers
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of century have brought us to this day.
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What shall be our legacy?
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What will our children say?
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Let me know in my heart, when my days are through America, America, I gave my best to
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you.
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Let's add, let's us add our own work and prayers.
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So this is the front man, all they dismantle the country.
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All they teach America shouldn't exist while they pull down our statues.
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Then when our days are through while they burn down cities and our children's children
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will save us.
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He says that he loves America and he's here to bring us unity.
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They healed all their pundits say they want to put us in reeducation camps.
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Yikes.
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Um, the part where at the beginning where it just seemed like he wasn't making a lot
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of sense, the interjections he was making were like, he lost the, he lost the thread.
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But he picked it up together to like at least make sense, I guess by the end, although still
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messed up.
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Yeah.
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So Alex had been talking about how they were going to be commercial free because there's
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a lot to cover at the inauguration.
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Fourteen minutes into his show, this is what happens.
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But now that's my next question.
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I thought this would go for hours.
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Well, it isn't.
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So we are not going to be commercial free, I guess until six o'clock tonight when we
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take calls up until 10 PM and have a whole raft of special guests here.
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So Alex had expected this inauguration to go all day.
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He didn't realize it was going to be a ceremony.
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It's real quick.
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Yeah.
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He didn't realize that maybe Trump's rambling speeches aren't normal.
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The wedding ceremony part of the wedding is usually pretty quick.
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Yeah.
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The reception is what goes on.
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It's the reception that takes a while.
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Yeah.
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A party.
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Unless you have maybe someone who's officiating the wedding because of Blowhard.
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Sure.
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That can happen.
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Yes.
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Bet you might be there a while.
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Could be.
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And I think Alex expected a Blowhard as a president because of last time.
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And 14 minutes in he realizes, uh-oh.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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Oh this isn't going to be a rambling nonsense speech that I can...
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I have got.
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I have no commercial breaks.
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Not good.
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Let's get those commercial breaks back.
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Guys, I don't have anything to say.
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I am not doing this commercial free.
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Yeah.
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When he gave me 14 minutes of content that even listening to it I had a hard time riffing
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over.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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Not good.
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So here's a commercial that Alex goes to.
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Sure.
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And I listen to his commercials on Infowars itself for a while because I generally listen
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through the feeds that have Genesis Communications commercials on them.
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So here's one of Alex's commercials.
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This blew my mind.
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The pope came out yesterday and announced a global government corporate alliance to
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redistribute wealth and create a planetary universal income, which of course the United
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Nations and global corporations will control through the apps on your phone and finally
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a chip under your skin.
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It's all now completely official, part of the UN Great Reset of the Davos Group and
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Klaus Schwab, all officially written about in hundreds of books by Schwab and Rockefeller
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Foundation, all the rest of them, agenda 21, agenda 2030.
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It's here.
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And only gets worse like being fed into a wood chipper or a meat grinder until you reject
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it all.
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And the rejection starts with realizing it's spiritual battle, good versus evil, and stopping
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abortion.
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What?
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What's going on here?
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What is happening?
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This is a commercial?
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Am I supposed to watch this show or?
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The musical cues are sophomoric, they're amateurish.
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Love it.
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Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.
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Also, I don't know what he's talking about.
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I think this is old because the pope, in his Easter letter last year, discussed UBI.
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And maybe the world is approaching a point where universal basic income is something
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we should be considering.
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I couldn't find, I don't know if he's doubled down on that, but that was like a big story
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in April.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I just thought that like, I thought the music, it's all like really dark and like music and
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then at the end like.
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Is that a commercial so much or just an interstitial?
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Do you think there's a product that he's selling?
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That's what I'm confused about.
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Am I just supposed to listen to more Info Wars because UBI might be coming?
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I don't know.
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I can't actually remember.
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I was so caught off guard by that left turn to like, you have to stop abortion.
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Yeah, that one threw me.
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I was like.
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I forgot the previous part of the commercial.
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It might have ended up in like a bodies commercial or something, but I don't know.
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Anyway, we get back to Alex's coverage of the inauguration, which is now over 15 minutes
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into a show.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Trouble.
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And so he's got to do what he does.
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I assume he didn't listen to the poets.
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No.
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No.
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He didn't do anything else except for.
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Yeah.
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I mean, maybe in the evening coverage, they went over the party aspect, but oh, no, they
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also they complained about Lady Gaga a little bit.
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Who cares?
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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Anyway, Alex has a guest on who we've been curious about his whereabouts the FBI might
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be as well.
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Okay, story.
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I know you're on the road.
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I appreciate you popping on on short notice.
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Obviously, I want to get your take on what's happened.
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How people that were delusional about Trump being invincible, how they're going to handle
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it.
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But the big issue, they're clearly saying domestic terrorism is here.
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They're clearly preparing to wind up for rock and tour groups.
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You're a domestic terrorist.
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You are for the American people.
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Stuart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers.
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They're saying.
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Been wondering what he's up to.
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Yeah.
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What's his lie going to be?
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Ha ha.
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Interesting.
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Alex doesn't start with, Hey, I haven't seen you since the six.
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How was the six?
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Yeah.
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Do you have a good time?
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What happened?
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What happened?
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Hey, Stuart Rhodes.
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You're on the road.
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I am definitely not saying you're on the run.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Wouldn't say that.
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I'm not.
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I'm not saying that he's wanted or anything, but he's a fucked up dude.
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Anyway, he is disappointed in Trump in very similar ways that Harrison was.
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Everybody sees right through it.
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These are not the president and vice president.
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These are Chai Comm agents, Stuart Rhodes of OathKeepers.org.
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Your view on all this.
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Well, I think what we have to realize is that, you know, Trump actually failed.
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He, um, this is unpopular, but I consider it a dereliction of duty and frankly, cowards
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in the face of the enemy.
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I'll be blunt.
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You know, we were calling for him to use the insurrection act all through the summer.
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Um, he did not do it and he brought him to the last moment.
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He could have done it.
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Yeah.
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You sound, I mean, I, I, his, his response is like as expected as it, you could, it could
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be for someone like Stuart Rhodes.
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He's disappointed.
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Yeah.
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Cause he has been very clearly calling for Trump.
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We wanted to overthrow the government and institute a theocracy.
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He's straight up been on Info Wars talking about how Trump needs to deputize him and
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all of his buddies, the militias, call them up to restore order in the country.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He, of course he's disappointed.
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He was really excited.
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This was as close as he was probably ever going to get to a president being like, yep,
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you guys are my army now.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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That's about as a, yeah, he wanted a new Confederacy and he almost got it and now he's sad and
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I assume Alex texted him being like, Hey, the line is it wasn't you guys on purpose.
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And he was like, but I want to tell people that we should do it again.
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Well he does have, he has an interesting take on what happened on the six and we'll get
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to that in a little bit, but Alex certainly doesn't want to start with, yeah, he wants
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to start with Biden is a fake leader and because he's a fake leader, Stuart knows cause he's
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a constitutional scholar.
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He went to Yale.
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Can you imagine how many lies are in history Dan?
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Many.
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So Stuart, based on the constitution, he's just like, fuck it, we don't have to follow
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laws now.
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I'll get plenty of hate mail for saying that and all kinds of people saying, you know,
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all the same excuses we've always heard, but he was surrounded by bad people.
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Whose fault was that?
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It's his own fault.
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And he's still a commander in chief or he was the commander in chief.
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He had a duty and responsibility to step up, but he failed to do that.
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He allowed a Chi-Con puppet into the White House and I think we now need to just declare
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that to be illegitimate and refuse to comply with anything that comes out of his mouth.
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Anything he signs, anything passed as so-called legislation, label it pretend legislation
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like the founding fathers did.
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Ha ha, rules are pretend now.
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Sweet.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I got three Supreme Court justices who don't count anymore.
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That's how we're going to do this.
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That's how this rule works.
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This is not functional.
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I get to choose who I think is the government.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is not a way for a cohesive society to work.
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And I mean, it makes sense because that's not their goal.
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Their goal is not to have a coherent and cohesive society.
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It's time to declare independence.
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Great.
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But he was not duly elected.
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It's just amazing that Trump will let the election be stolen out from under him and
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then let our country be stolen like this, our government.
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So we have to now prepare to walk the path of the founding fathers, where your independence
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from that illegitimate regime.
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We still defend the constitution, but they're the ones that are the Ursipers and the violators.
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And you-
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I'm sorry.
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And then get strong in your communities.
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You need to be raising local militias in your towns and counties.
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And like the founders did, you need to then nullify, refuse to comply, and when they come
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for you, you defend yourselves.
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But you got to do it together.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So commit crimes and kill cops when they try and arrest you.
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I guess.
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I think they're pretend laws.
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I...
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Man.
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Oh boy.
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I'm gonna-
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What?
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What pretend laws?
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By this point, I'm-
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What pretend laws?
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I would like to know specifically which ones are pretend and which ones are not pretend.
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Anything that has Biden's signature on it, his Hancock on it.
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Okay.
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That's fake.
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All right.
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Look.
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Sure.
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I can't say enough how stressed out I was when I was listening to this because I got
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really caught with a left hook out of nowhere by Harrison's overt racism and anti-Semitism.
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I was surprised by the white nationalism, yeah.
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That made going through his shit much more of a slog than I expected, and it made it
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like...
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It was taxing.
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And then at the same time, it filled me with all kinds of thoughts about like, all right,
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I guess the morning show on Info Wars now is just like...
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White nationalist happy hour.
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Speak freely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speak freely big at time.
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Yeah.
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And that seemed like a bad direction for things to be going.
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Then you get into Info Wars itself, like Alex's show, and you got Stuart Rhodes coming in
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and it's just like frank discussion about like, the government isn't real.
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We need to secede.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And this is doubling into the talk on Harrison's show about creating these enclaves where you
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can protect yourself from the America.
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Sundown towns are great.
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It's fucked up.
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Don't they already have white nationalist compounds in the Pacific Northwest?
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Like entire cities that are like, no, it's whites only here.
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And everybody's just like, it's the Pacific Northwest.
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I guess you guys do that.
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I don't know enough to know for sure, but I believe I've heard, at least unofficially
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there are some places that have that character.
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So one thing that Stuart is clear on is that he's gotten the memo.
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Sure.
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We got a shit on Q people.
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Right.
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But the Q people, I mean, only silver lining in all this is maybe the Q people will finally
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shut up because all they did the entire time, even up until last night, because, Oh no,
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the trips were there to arrest the bad guys.
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That's delusional nonsense.
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Q was an absolute psyop and well done one, what they call a lullaby to get you all to
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be lulled into a false sense of security and, and just be asleep.
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That's what happened for four years.
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You had people sitting on their hands, doing nothing, waiting, saying, trust the plan,
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waiting for this miraculous day that never came.
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It was a masterful, uh, sign up, but now you're going to wake up, smell the coffee and realize
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now you got to do it the hard way.
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You got to do it the same way.
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The founding fathers did, you know, who else was sitting on their hands, doing nothing
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for a long time, who people like Alex and Stuart Rhodes, like, you know, these people
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who thought that they had something that they could gain from Q Anon until it got to a point
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where they realized, Nope, I can't gain anything from this.
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And now they sound like people, uh, who we are associated with.
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Like all of a sudden they're pretending that people who have maybe more left politics,
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uh, people like the guys at Q Anon Anonymous haven't been like banging the drum for a long
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time talking about the dangers and the misleading nature of Q Anon.
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Like I have no patience for this.
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You guys have all just jumped onto this now because you realize, well, that's our stick
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to beat.
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That's our scapegoat.
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And there's a good chance that we can bring in some of the people, uh, anyone who hasn't
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already decided that Alex Jones is controlled opposition because of Q Anon, maybe we can
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get them into our revenue streams.
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Isn't the implication of his argument though, that he wanted more people there on the 6th
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to overthrow the government?
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No, because then Biden hadn't been inaugurated.
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Well you got me.
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No, Stuart doesn't want the overthrow of the government to have happened on the 6th.
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What he's saying is that Q people, because they were lulled into a false sense of security,
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did not show up on the 6th in order to overthrow the government like he wanted.
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I mean, I think that you could read his comments and maybe some of even like Alex's comments
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that way, but I don't think that that's a totally fair reading.
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I think it's a possible reading, but I think it's more like the way that they intend it
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is more like there's organizing that you could do.
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There's information warfare you could engage in that you were lulled into a false sense
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of security about.
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You thought Trump was bulletproof, but there's other things you could, you could have been
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banging on doors in Georgia.
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I think that that's what they want you to hear.
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Yeah.
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Dan, you are fair.
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I am very much unfair and I'm telling you right now, he wished there were more people
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on the 6th.
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Look, that's the dynamic of the show.
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Anyway, speaking of the 6th, Alex finally gets around to asking about that and oh boy.
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Give me your take on what happened to the Capitol.
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I mean, we got set up there bad.
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Well, sure, but I think it's, I think it's, I see it like this.
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Yes, there were provocateurs that made sure the doors were wide open, but I think it's
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important for all of us not to use the rhetoric of the left, condemn everyone that walked
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in the Capitol as you know, storming the castle or storming the Capitol and, and, and engaging
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the insurrection.
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We should just say, look at the most they were trespassing.
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Stuart Rhodes has a lot riding on people believing that people who were at the Capitol were just
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trespassing at worst.
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You see, unlike Antifa, the Oath Keepers are a group that exists and Stuart Rhodes is the
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head of it.
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They have a website where you can donate to them and everything and they have an online
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store where you can buy official merch.
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It's an actual group and it kind of looks bad when three members of the group get arrested
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after storming the Capitol and their charging document lays out how they planned for weeks
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in advance in order to, in theory, kill members of Congress.
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It took a lot of planning to trespass, it looks like.
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Yeah.
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Thomas Caldwell, Jessica Watkins and Donovan Kroll are all Oath Keepers from Ohio and they're
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going to prison for a long time.
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According to an article in the Daily Beast, Caldwell stands accused of organizing a group
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of eight people to aggressively disrupt the certification of the Electoral College vote.
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The group used Facebook and the walkie-talkie Abzello to communicate, which is really fucking
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stupid because now the FBI has all that shit, including them messaging with someone on Facebook
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who is apparently encouraging them to kill members of Congress, saying, quote, all members
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are in the tunnels under the Capitol.
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Seal them in.
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Turn on gas.
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Bill Gates is going to inject us all with computer chips to know where we are at all
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times so we need to protect ourselves by using unencrypted apps while in the Capitol.
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After leaving the Capitol, Caldwell posted on Facebook, quote, Proud Boys scuffled with
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cops and drove them inside to hide, breached the doors.
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One guy made it all the way to the House floor, another to Pelosi's office.
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A good time.
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We need to do this on the local level.
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Let's storm the Capitol in Ohio.
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Tell me when.
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In this individual case, Stewart's personal hands may be clean.
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One of the messages that the FBI had in the charging document was Caldwell saying, quote,
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I don't know if Stewie has even gotten out his call to arms, but it's a little frickin'
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late.
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This one we're doing on our own.
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We'll link up with a North Carolina crew.
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Oh, man.
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Stewart read that and was like, boom!
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I'm free!
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Yeah.
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I get...
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Yeah.
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Thank God they said that shit.
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Whee!
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I guess you could say that the best case scenario for Stewart Rhodes is to say that he's responsible
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for starting a decentralized right-wing extremist militia organization that he has so little
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control over that now it's being used by members to plan militaristic takeovers of state and
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federal capitol buildings.
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Also, he might be in hot water, because the charging document for those Oath Keepers does
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include a charge of conspiracy, and it explicitly alleges that they, quote, conspired together
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and with others whose identities are known and unknown to law enforcement at this time.
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Oh, boy.
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That's not a great sentence to see when you're the head of an organization that these people
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who were going to jail for a very long time were conspiring in.
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What I'm saying is, I would still be worried if I were Stewart, even though that, you know,
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the Stewie thing is pretty good for him.
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Hey, Don, a lot of our generals flipped, and you're in the RICO case.
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Is this good?
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Is this good or bad?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He has stuff to be concerned about, and it's probably his best play to pretend that people
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are just trespassing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's probably his best interests.
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And they were just trespassing.
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Hey, it's no big deal.
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I mean, sure, they had to push through some barricades and kill a girl.
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It's no big deal.
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Yeah.
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So, like, we have a couple of Oath Keepers members that were in there.
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When they establish a defense fund, we'll contribute to it.
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They did not do that under my orders.
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They did that contrary to our plan for the day, which is just to PSD details and protect
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events.
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That's what we were there to do and protect individual Trump supporters from the radicals
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in the streets, like we've always done.
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But I'm not going to chuck them under the bus and condemn them as horrible people or
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traitors or any kind of nonsense like that.
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Too many on the right are adopting the same.
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Yeah, no.
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The police opened the doors after a few people knocked out some of the windows.
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They were ordered to suck in enough people to have a crowd.
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Stuart, don't you understand?
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We already have the narrative.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You have your own personal issues, and I understand how you don't want to throw your people under
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the bus, but they are going to jail for a long time.
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Long time.
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And, hey, that's tough.
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I feel for you.
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Infos has a narrative, and I'm not going to stray from it at all, not for your ass.
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Hey, buddy, you can thread the fine needle of it's good that they overthrew the Capitol,
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but it's bad that they lost.
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You can do that all you want.
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I wish you the best.
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Yeah, have fun.
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Have fun.
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You're also probably going to jail.
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So Jordan, Stuart Rhodes has some interesting ideas about cancel culture.
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I find that hard to believe.
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Apparently, I don't know exactly what the root is, how you get there from point A to
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point C, but you start with cancel culture, then things get out of control.
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Are we going to get back into white genocide?
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Mass graves.
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Okay.
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People dead in ditches.
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Okay.
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He'll play the good cop and say, we come in peace, but they really come for war.
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Stuart Rhodes, what do you expect from the left now?
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Are going to follow through with cancel culture, and it ends in a ditch.
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It's where it's going to end if you don't stop it.
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It ends in a ditch full of bodies, which is what the communists have done throughout their
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history.
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I mean, in fact, there's a state rep from New Mexico that's calling for all of us to
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be tattooed, if you were a Trump supporter, to be tattooed with a mark that's visible
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so they will know who you are.
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So we need to understand that it's far worse than the founding fathers faced.
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Citation needed on that New Mexico state rep.
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So if I understand correctly, if Toobin can't rub one out in a meeting, we're all going
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to mass graves.
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Yeah, you remember how Mao got rid of his political opponents by bringing up blog posts
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they'd written.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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They'd written.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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That was the main source of issues for the Cultural Revolution, I'm pretty sure, right?
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Oh, God.
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Okay.
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I just can't stand this overly dramatic person making these petty complaints, simultaneously
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being the leader of a fucking militia, where people did storm the Capitol and seemed to
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have pretty nefarious intent.
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I get it.
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You know, like when you're so used to having uncontrollable and impenetrable privilege
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your entire life and the lives of your forebears, I get that the idea of equality is threatening
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to you.
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Sure.
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But let's just remind ourselves that at best from a Biden presidency, we're going to get
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a little bit more equal.
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It's not going to change too much for white people.
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Yeah.
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And I think-
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It's just not.
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And I think that you'll see more coherent and more sincere aggressive critique and action
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from the left.
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100%.
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I think you will see more organizing against or in order to push policy for Biden from
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the left than you will from the right.
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You'll see culture war nonsense and just a bunch of aggrievement from the right and you'll
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see an attempt to form more coherent social policy on the left.
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I find it hard to think that, you know, like watching Portland happen just recently-
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Since the inauguration.
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Yeah, since the inauguration, watching the way the cops reacted, it struck me that more
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likely what we're going to see from the Capitol riot is not that people are going to go back
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to DC, but that cops are going to fuck people up at home.
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You know, like the DC overthrow is going to everybody's home and it's cops fucking people
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up.
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Oh, and there's that video out of Tacoma of the police car driving through a bunch of
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people.
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Yeah.
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That's the legacy of the sixth.
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I think it's entirely possible and I think that there will also be the other legacy and
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that is I think that there will be a lot of people who end up going to prison or who at
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least get charged with a bunch of stuff and I think that we may or may not hear follow-ups
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on a lot of it, but I think a lot of people are going to be jammed up for that.
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And hey, three of them are Stuart Rhodes' militia members at least.
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Yeah, it's unfortunate that the people who created the conditions are absolutely not
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going to face any...
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Rico.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah.
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Anyway, Stuart believes that Trump, you know that guy?
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Last sitting president who was real.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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All right.
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That said, there is a potential for future elections to...
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No!
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Yep.
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Future elections...
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Sorry.
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They can go well.
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Okay.
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But there's something that needs to happen for these elections to go well and that is
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paper ballots, but also...
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I'm fine with paper.
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I'm happy with paper ballots.
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Hold on.
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I like paper ballots.
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Hold on.
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That's just the beginning.
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That's a good beginning.
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There's a second step to this that is ludicrous.
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I don't know how I feel about the second step.
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Anything else you'd like to add in about 30 seconds we have left?
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We no longer have a legitimate president.
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This is...
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Trump was the last actual sitting legitimate president.
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We will see if we can ever have one again that's going to require paper ballots.
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At any local elections, you must insist on paper ballots if they won't do it.
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You hold your own parallel election using paper ballots to prove that your patriot candidate
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did win.
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Make sure you have a way to prove that.
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And from bottom to top, bottom up is how you take it back.
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That's right, Stuart.
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How do you do that?
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How do you run a second election?
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I think the funniest thing about that is that the only people who would be furious at the
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results of us going to entirely paper ballots would be these people.
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I have zero doubt in my mind that if we were using paper ballots, Stacey Abrams would have
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been governor of Georgia.
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Zero doubt.
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I would...
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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I don't know what I think entirely would change because I don't believe that there's rank
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corruption of electronic voting.
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I think that there's problems with gerrymandering and access to polling places.
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And I don't know if that would be fully solved by paper ballots.
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I would doubt it.
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I would say that one thing that would be even more helpful than paper ballots would be having
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a holiday for elections, having multiple days that people can vote, which are things that
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people are doing, that we're making progress towards, and also expanding access to remote
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voting.
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Keeping Republicans away from how many polling places are allowed in, let's say, majority
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black neighborhoods.
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And not letting people like Stuart's friends hang around outside in the fifties.
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That's a good one.
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That's a good one.
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I like that one too.
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These things would make more progress than paper ballots.
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But I will say that one thing that is stupid is the idea that what you should do, if you
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can't have paper ballots, is run a second election.
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I think a parallel election would teach people a lot about how you would want to steal it.
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Here's a really good way that that process could get subverted and you'd never know it.
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How?
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So you're running a second election.
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Sure.
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I go ahead and vote differently in those two.
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How would you ever know?
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Well, because it would also be run by the Georgia election commission.
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Why would they ever do that?
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Well, because right wing nut jobs want it.
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No, he's talking about like the oath keepers running their own election.
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So dumb.
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I think they should have the UN come in to observe the results of the election.
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I think these guys would love that.
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They'd love it.
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So Stuart leaves and Alex, earlier, Stuart had said that Trump is a disappointment.
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He failed.
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He didn't step up when Judy called and all these people are going to be going around
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and saying that, hey, he was surrounded and making excuses for him.
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Like Alex and Roger Stone and Steve Pachannik and Jerome Corsi.
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No, no, no.
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Alex immediately after Stuart leaves.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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And I respect Stuart Rhodes, the oath keepers.
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He was on last segment here on the Alex Jones show last hour.
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And he was saying, you think Trump really failed by not declaring the insurrection act.
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Well, Bob Barnes was a lawyer for Trump and was in some of the meetings and they were
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planning to have the military arrest Trump if he did that, even though it was lawful.
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And so Trump was totally surrounded.
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Oh, so it sounds like you're the kind of person who Stuart was talking about having no patience
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for it.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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You're being a narcissistic shithead on inauguration day.
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I'm just, I've always tried to steer you as accurate as I can with the best info I have
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with real research and real historical understanding and quote sources.
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But I'll tell you most of the time I know more than my sources, what the Pentagon calls
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me up.
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The CIA calls me up to ask what I think of things.
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Not the other way around.
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I'm not trying to brag about that folks, but I have a good political brain.
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I've been doing this a long time.
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I've been trained in the field, in the school of hard knots as an organic Patriot citizen
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who wasn't trained by the system.
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Matt is seen by the system as the proof of someone's real gravitas is that they pull
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themselves up out of the mud.
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And I'm not telling you that to act powerful.
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I'm telling you that because that's the reality, ladies and gentlemen, now let's shift gears
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into Lady Gaga.
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Those pills might be kicking in.
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Yeah.
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Let's shift gears into Lady Gaga.
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I think that's good.
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They really do respect people who pull themselves up.
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How did Alex get his first show again?
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His dad bought an ad.
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Radio station.
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One of the other things I think is really funny is like just imagining just any other
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show where like somebody interviews somebody about like Medicare policy or something like
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that.
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And then they're like, you know what?
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I know way more about Medicare than these assholes that I have on.
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Rest in peace to Larry King.
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If only he had a few broadcasts where he's just like, man, all these people that I talked
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to are fucking stupid.
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The government calls me up for what I think about things.
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In any context other than Alex Jones, it becomes so clear how rude it is, how unprofessional
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it is.
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But for Alex, it's just like, yeah, this is the kind of dickhead that he is.
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I mean, if you have an M.O. for long enough, people will just be like, fine.
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Yeah.
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Also, speaking of which, with Larry King, I was reminded on his passing, and a lot of
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people posted the clip.
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Dick Rubin?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I was glad they did.
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That's a good one.
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And if you haven't seen it, go check that out.
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Larry King was on with Dave Rubin.
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They were doing a live broadcast, and Larry King answered a call from his son.
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It was incredibly rude.
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It was beautiful.
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It was beautiful.
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It went on forever.
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It was beautiful.
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Dave Rubin is so pissed.
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Lovely.
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One of the best things ever.
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I love it.
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So Robert Barnes shows up now.
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Cool.
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We got to have some constitutional law to tell us why.
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Well, we already did.
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Oh, that's right.
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I'm a constitutional expert.
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Stuart Rhodes telling me about the Constitution.
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That's right.
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He's just basically there to shit on Q more.
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I think that that's Barnes' new thing.
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His new branding is anti-Q guy.
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I like it.
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That's a good rebrand.
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Sure.
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Whatever.
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But he also has an idea for what Trump needs to do now that he's out of office.
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I think Trump's great skill is his marketing, and his great asset is his brand.
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And so he should leverage both to look at an independent news media network, independent
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information distribution network, independent social media platforms, maybe even look at
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independent banks and financial institutions.
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The reality is there's there's going to be huge demand for all of those things from people
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that are our Trump supporters because of the censorship campaigns and the blacklisting
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campaigns by the institutional media, by employment institutions, by financial institutions, by
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the social media oligarchs.
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The only way to counteract that is to have our own networks to do to replicate and repeat
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what Infowars has done.
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Build an independent brand that's not dependent at all either on corporate donations or sugar
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daddy billionaires, but also isn't dependent on big tech distribution platforms either.
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The Infowars is the model and the template for the president to mirror and follow in
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a broader context of industry.
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I'm not sure that I would want to be involved with a bank that's modeled after Infowars.
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I don't think I would feel confident having my money held by people who are constantly
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ranting about the devil and how they might be out of business next week.
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I don't know.
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There are some good financial advisors.
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I think that those business models are, especially ones like, you know, banks.
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A lot of that has to do with confidence.
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That's one of the things that will go a long way in terms of making investors and depositors
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not make a rush on their money trying to get it out.
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I think that Alex is, uh, maybe...
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Here's what I want to do.
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I want to put my money in a bank that screams at me about how the government is going to
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take my money away from that bank.
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Right.
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Also, is this independent bank going to be involved in the FDIC?
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Also, if you're telling me that you want a social network started by Trump without a
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fucking daddy billionaire, you know what?
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It's a little incoherent.
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You know, um, yeah.
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It's all a little incoherent.
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They're functionally, like, his plan is functionally, let's secede from reality entirely.
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Yes.
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We don't have to live in, look, we can't leave the country because it's land, but our brains
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can secede.
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Yeah.
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We will create a media ecosystem, which you've already done a lot of legwork on with InfoWars
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and Newsmax and OAN, and Trump has, you know, certainly elevated all these things.
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We'll create online spaces for us to interact.
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We'll create, um...
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You know, this would remind me a lot, and I don't think Barnes would like it too much.
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If this were actually enacted, I think it would remind me more of, like, the mining
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towns in the 1890s and early 1900s where the guy who owned the mine also printed your money.
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Right.
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Owned your home.
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Ran everything there.
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Printed the newspaper.
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I'm not positive that Barnes wouldn't like that.
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I mean, that's basically libertarian fantasy land.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Well, I think a lot of people would love it if they were the owner of the mine.
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See, that's what they think.
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And that is...
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I'm gonna get my own mine.
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Well, to an extent, I think people like Barnes and Alex are at a level of society where they
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view themselves as being okay in a libertarian landscape.
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Like that.
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Like that mining town, they would either be the person who runs the mine or somebody who's
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an associate of the person who runs the mine.
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So they're fine.
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They're gonna be a monkey, Mike.
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They aren't the miners.
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You don't want to grow.
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You don't want to be a miner.
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Right.
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So they, you know, obviously that's the society that they would like to see and they would
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like to build.
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I'm going to tell you right now, a society built around people who don't want to work
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in the mine, but all want to own it.
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Not a good one.
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It's functional.
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Hmm.
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So Barnes, like I said, most of it is complaining about QAnon, which is just becoming annoying
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at this point.
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Yeah.
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And so he leaves and Alex, he said this and I got pretty excited.
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Here's a short compilation.
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We've got like a 20 minute one, but here's a minute and a half compilation of them calling
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for reprogramming, reeducation camps of the American people.
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So Alex is going to play that compilation.
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You know, I was curious cause I hadn't heard him play those clips, but he keeps talking
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about it.
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Yeah.
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So I decided that what I was going to do is I was going to look into each clip.
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Do it.
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Here's the deal.
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Okay.
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I took this compilation clip by clip and I found the context for each of them and I found
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that none of them really had anything to do with putting conservatives in camps or anything
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even close.
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And I was thinking like, what the fuck is going on?
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I spent a long time sorting this out.
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And then at the end of the compilation, it didn't matter.
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Cause Alex said this, Oh, the enemy is the American people.
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So that's another compilation.
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Sorry.
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We heard the wrong one.
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Go fuck yourself.
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I wasted so much time.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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It turns out the compilation that I was talking about doesn't exist.
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That's the equivalent in my world of like me slipping on a banana peel.
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Yeah.
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That's that's Lucy holding the football.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex just pulled it away forever and ever, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but
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Charlie Brown, what are we talking about?
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Somebody said camps.
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All right.
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Now, now, now Barnes, we did get one of the clips.
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It's not the crew's fault.
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There's so many brainwash reeducate kill firing squad, uh, reprogram, but I wanted to just
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show one of the clips about reeducation camps because that's where they're going with this.
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Here it is.
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And Harvard now want to set up kind of a reeducation camps and moral rehabilitation centers and
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institutions for vetting people who had the chutzpah to work in the Trump administration.
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That's right.
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And that's him criticizing.
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We've got a bunch of clips that we'll add in post.
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We add this to live and where they actually say it.
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Yeah.
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So I guess Barnes is still around, but who cares?
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Yeah.
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Alex breaks into the air interview to say that he did find her on the clips, but unfortunately
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it's not a leftist saying they want to put conservatives in camps.
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It's just another right winger complaining about his fear that leftists are going to
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put conservatives in camps.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is noted Epstein lawyer, Alan Dershowitz complaining about Harvard students starting
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a petition to encourage the school to not hire anyone who worked for the Trump administration.
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This doesn't help Alex's point and guess what?
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That's a clip from November.
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How does the Dersh get allowed on TV?
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I don't know.
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I don't understand.
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I don't know, but that's the best.
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What's wrong with people?
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That's the best they could do.
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What's really interesting about that is that Alex is supposedly in possession of hundreds
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of these clips.
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Yeah.
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He breaks in with this clip after playing the wrong compilation.
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Yep.
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I don't know if he has all these clips.
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He does not.
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There are not then.
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Yeah.
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Because they don't exist.
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So Alex is kind of bored.
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Yeah.
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Because...
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Inauguration really isn't that big of a deal.
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No.
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And it also was shorter than he thought it was going to be.
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Yeah.
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Biden didn't make any real serious gaffes.
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And Alex is a little bit disappointed.
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Alright.
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I think terror attacks should happen any time something happens, turn your phone on, brother.
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We're going to be live until 10 o'clock tonight.
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Thank you so much.
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So yeah, there should have been attacks any time now.
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I'm pretty sure he's very disappointed nobody attacked the Capitol.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or around the country at some other state house or something.
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He's pretty much like, that's the whole reason we were going to do an all-day thing.
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Because I thought my buddies were going to start fires.
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I predicted false flags.
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Yeah.
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Come on, man.
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So it goes on a little bit longer.
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Alex is spinning his wheels.
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There's nothing really going on.
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It's very boring.
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I think they...
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We haven't had a false flag yet today.
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Maybe it's going to happen.
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I pray it doesn't.
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They were certainly saying what was coming.
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I think we put so much attention on this.
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Who was?
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And told patriots, don't go out and demonstrate on the 20th that we may have dodged a bullet.
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That's knock on wood.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, we stopped it from happening by saying it, but so, so awful.
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Yeah.
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Alex has Matt Bracken on, noted race war predictor Matt Bracken, noted shoddy Diagram fan Matt
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Bracken, noted ebook about race war salesman Matt Bracken.
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He's on and the two of them have a largely unproductive conversation.
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And I think Alex is so bored that he just leaves, like not in the same way as during
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his interview with Jason Jones.
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Sure.
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But like mentally in his head.
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He's just like Bracken, you're doing a half hour.
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You take care of this until John Rappaport shows up.
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Alex just leaves.
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That's great.
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Bracken hosts for a little while and I don't give a shit.
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And then John Rappaport shows up to host the fourth hour and this is where I turn things
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off.
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Okay.
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Hello everybody.
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John here.
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I thought I would celebrate the Biden inauguration by, uh, putting myself in a virtual loft as
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you can see behind me in a virtual city that is on virtual lockdown.
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And my refrigerator is stocked with virtual food because it was of course a virtual inauguration
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after a virtual election.
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Rappaport got a zoom background.
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This is riveting stuff.
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I can't believe how boring that is.
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That is the most bored I have been so fast in the shortest period of time.
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35 seconds for him to explain that he got a zoom background.
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That was brutally boring.
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Outrageous.
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That's terrifying.
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Inappropriate.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It makes me, it makes me mad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I could have probably kept going and listened to The War Room, although that's
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not a show that I normally listen to.
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True.
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Owen Schroyer is basically a less competent, broey version of Alex.
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Yeah.
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And I just, what I, what I got to by the end of Alex's show was this sort of sense that
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they're all disappointed.
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There's no real new talking points being developed in terms of like what happened on the sixth.
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Yeah.
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Biden's a fake president.
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Whoop-dee-doo.
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This is all exactly the way they've been going.
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I didn't, I didn't have any faith that this was going to develop into anything interesting.
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Right.
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Simultaneously, I didn't think that there was any chance that Owen's show could be any
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more offensive than the American Journal.
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I don't think that there could be anything that topped that in terms of the dangerousness,
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the offensiveness, the bigotedness.
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And the banality of it.
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True.
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And the banality of it was such a terrifying part.
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Yeah.
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It's always the scariest part where they're just like, we have to kill millions of people.
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Like just tossing it off.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so I kind of felt done with Inauguration Day.
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Sure.
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We saw some outrageous white nationalist slash supremacist slash neo-Nazi content in the
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morning show.
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We saw Alex disappointed that his predictions of bombings and false flags didn't come true.
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And therefore he had no content on his own show.
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I just, oh, and Stuart Rhodes showed up.
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So I was done.
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Yeah.
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I was done.
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I think we got what we needed out of it.
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Yeah.
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I think Alex definitely didn't get what he wanted out of it, which was a lot of terror
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attacks.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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I do think that that was something he was kind of hoping for.
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Yeah.
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Why else would you say we're going to do, look, if you're Info Wars and you're saying
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we're going to do a live 10 hour broadcast, that's not because you think the inauguration
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is going to go well.
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No, or that you have like something, some analysis or something to say, a breakdown
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of policy, a breakdown of like the agenda that Biden is setting out for in his first
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hundred days.
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You really want to get down into the nitty gritty.
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You want to get in the weeds.
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You want to be a policy wonk.
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He is a policy wonk.
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We all know he's a policy wonk.
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We all know that.
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He says it on our show like five times a show.
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All the time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't think he has the ability to, nor the interest in it, and his audience wouldn't
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be at all motivated by it.
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This is Info Wars.
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We want spectacle.
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Yes.
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And we want explosions.
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Yes.
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And apparently we want a dork being a bigot.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Anyway, we'll be back probably on Friday, I think, for another episode.
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Maybe a bonus little thing on Wednesday.
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Let's hope.
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But and then we'll discuss the fallout of Alex losing his Supreme Court in Texas appeal,
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which I think will be maybe interesting.
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Maybe not.
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Who knows?
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Yeah.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledgefight.com.
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And I go to Betjordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are Facebook.
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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to do God's work.
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Yeah.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXclerk.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I got bad news for you, Harrison Smith.
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You have attracted my attention.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Thanks for being on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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