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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her, riddle her, riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, stop it, Andy and, Andy and, Andy and, it's time
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to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a fifth-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.com, knowledgefight.com, I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple of dudes
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that like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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Sure.
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today, now spoiler alert to everybody out there listening, we just recorded
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our bright spots and realized that it was not recorded.
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Had not started the recording yet.
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The thing had not recorded.
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It's crucially recorded.
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I hit the button.
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It didn't start recording.
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I'm not saying that I didn't.
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And it didn't start recording.
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I'm not saying that I disbelieve you.
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So we're gonna share our bright spots with each other for a second time, so if any of
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this sounds insincere.
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It's a little bit weird to do it twice in a row.
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Yeah.
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There were some great rips.
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Totally.
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You guys missed out on gold.
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And now I feel like I can't bring any, oh god.
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No, it's tough to bring the same energy now.
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I know.
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Anyway, my bright spot is world music.
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Actually, on the second time that is funnier.
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Yeah.
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It's not that funny.
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I'm just worried, like I told you earlier on the first time, that I'm worried that I'm
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becoming my parents, because they used to have a lot of interest in a lot of music from
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around the world, particularly this band, Yuthu Yindi, which is a lot of synth and also
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tribal sounds from Oceania.
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And yeah, it was a running joke throughout our family, but I was on Spotify getting some
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work done for the episode.
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Just like to put on music in the background while I'm like researching and reading up
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on stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I always like to let them see what you got.
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They know what I've listened to.
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Let's see if you can hit a home run.
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I don't trust nobody.
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And there was some music from Malawi that ended up coming up, and I really, really enjoyed
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it.
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And I'm worried this is going to set me off on a path of just like getting into all sorts
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of stuff from around the world, which isn't the worst thing ever.
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Nothing.
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No, no, no.
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Orchestra Baobab is great.
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You should try them out.
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They're fantastic.
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Writing this down.
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Yeah, there's all kinds of great African music.
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I think it's a little bit cliche to reference them because they're probably...
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Or maybe not.
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Maybe no one has any idea about them except for in the weird circles that I live in.
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That might be.
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Oh, it's so cliche to reference Orchestra Baobab.
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You know the thing everyone knows about.
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Well, I mean, on one of our bonus episodes, we did talk about your love of really obscure
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music.
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So you can't tell who knows what.
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I have no idea.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so this might be a new little bit of an auditory adventure for me.
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I'm excited to embark on it and find out what the rest of the world has to offer in terms
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of sounds.
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A lot of great music out there.
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Awesome.
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What about you?
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot, Dan, is Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
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It's a fantastic game.
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I enjoyed it.
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I want to say that I already knew that the first time around.
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You already knew that before I had even said it the first time.
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Right.
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Now it's the second time I'm totally not surprised.
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Twice as boring.
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Twice as boring.
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Not bored.
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Not interested.
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Just not surprised.
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You even already know the story that my bright spot is, so it's not even an interesting story.
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But I also knew that because you texted me about it before the first time we recorded
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it.
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Exactly.
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All of this is terrible for you.
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You're bored by it.
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Please.
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My bright spot is a video game.
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Is that what you wanted to hear, Dan?
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No, I'm thrilled for you, because it's been a long time coming.
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You're very excited about this game, as you should be.
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Yeah, it's my favorite series.
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And I had originally ordered it.
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I found out on the 9th that my copy wouldn't have rised.
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I ordered a physical copy, like a boron, and it wouldn't have rised.
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Well, you're a man of a certain age.
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It wouldn't have rised.
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Yes, I have reached that time.
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Your console age, your cartridge age, game cartridge age.
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I still blow on the DVDs, just in case.
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Smart.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's very smart.
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Yeah, no, and it wasn't going to show up until the 17th, so on the 9th I was like, fuck this.
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It was 7 o'clock.
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It was going to be available at 11.
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So I scrambled and got the download copy as soon as I possibly could, and all troubles
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were averted.
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It's perfect.
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Yeah, you got to.
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I mean, it's going to be another week for that thing to show up.
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No, can't do it.
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Can't do it.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no.
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People are going to say stuff like, it was good.
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Spoilers.
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Yeah, and I'm like, no.
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I must experience it fresh.
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I must be part of the zeitgeist.
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So I've been busy, because the show and what have you, and sort of other related projects,
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and so I haven't had a lot of time to play it, but I did pre-order a digital copy myself,
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and I did play a little bit.
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Like a genius.
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I played a little bit the other night.
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I've not gotten very far into it, and I'm concerned.
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Now here's why.
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I don't know a lot about Norse and Viking stuff, whereas other iterations of the game
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were like sort of mythologies and cultural histories that I know a little bit more about.
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Greece is your wheelhouse.
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Like right up your alley.
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Even the one before it was Egypt, and I know a bit about Egyptian history.
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I know very little, and I realized why.
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It's those letters.
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It's the letters.
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The ruins.
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No, I just can't handle the weird combination of letters and the names and stuff.
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It intimidates me, and I don't know what to do with those Vs and Js and Ys and Gs everywhere.
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It scares me.
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I don't know what to do.
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Ah, come on.
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It's fine.
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It's hard.
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It's Elvish.
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You're fine.
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It's very difficult for me, and I realize that subconscious bias has kept me away, whereas
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I'm excited to embark on a little bit of this, find out some stuff that I can then maybe
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read up on the real versions of.
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And then I also-
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I think what's really funny about that is having played just a little bit further into
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the game than you, after the title card, which is four hours, five hours into that-
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I've not even come close to that, I'm sure.
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You go to England.
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What?
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Spoilers.
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All of your worries-
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Spoilers.
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It's funny to me that you're like, oh, I'm worried about the ruins, and I'm like, dude,
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three hours from now you won't even see a ruin.
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You're fine.
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Wow.
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I'm a little disappointed.
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No, it's going to be great.
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It's awesome.
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But the other thing, that actually kind of puts to bed my other worry about the game,
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having again played very little of it, I'm worried it's too white, but not in white people
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way.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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I mean snow.
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It's very snow.
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There's so much goddamn snow around, it's visually monochromatic to a level that if
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it were the entire game, I would have a problem with that.
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I think it would be a difficulty.
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Because of the open world exploration aspect, if you're just running around and everywhere
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is snow covered, it becomes a bummer.
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No, even with Witcher 3, it wasn't gloomy all the time, it was gloomy most of the time.
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And there were sort of variations to the gloom.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's light gloom, dark gloom, you got them.
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Well, I'm glad to know that some of these concerns that I have, whether it be letter
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or snow-based.
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Or weather, yeah.
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Letter or weather, it's still a good game.
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I trust the developers of those games enough to not make a game that's all snow.
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I figured it would be such an elementary kind of thing.
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Rogue was, did you ever play Assassin's Creed Rogue?
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I did not.
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Yeah, that one's mainly snow, so you skipped that one for good.
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Skip it.
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Yeah, skip it.
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That one's out of here.
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I don't mind a little snow.
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Anyway.
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You live in Illinois, you don't mind a little snow.
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A little bit.
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I live through snowpocalypse.
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Yeah, we've been here, wow, come on.
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So Jordan, today we're getting back into the present, we're going to be talking about November
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7th and 8th, 2020.
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I'm Dan, this is 2020.
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Oh, god damn it.
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We're entering that interesting period where we find out what Alex does during the 79 days
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of hell.
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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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On our last episode, we experienced what happened when Alex left and Steve Pachanik tried to
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throw a wrench in the gears.
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Today we jump in and I guess we're just pretending none of this shit happened.
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I was born in 1783, my father was a Highlander and so am I.
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I had to kill him, there can be only one!
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I don't know exactly how we're doing it, but I guess we're just pretending that never happened.
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And we're here on Saturday, Alex is doing a broadcast on Saturday the 7th and then his
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show on Sunday the 8th.
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And yeah, we'll see, we'll see what's going on.
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Alright.
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He's a weird dude.
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I like it.
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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But before we get down to business on that, let's take a moment to say thank you to some
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folks who have signed up on our sporting show.
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So first, Gn0x Revenge, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks Gn0x Revenge.
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Thank you.
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Next, Burt G, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks Burt.
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Thank you Burt.
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Next, Jared M, thank you so much, you're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much Jared.
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Thank you!
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Next Stu and Ger, Engerur, Engerrr standing.
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Stu and Ger, thank you so much You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Stu.
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Stu.
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Next, Philbin.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Philbin.
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Thank you, Philbin.
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And then finally, I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of folks who donated on an
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elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So first of all, HB.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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Fernando F. Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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And don't go into the forest.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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Thank you.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right.
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.
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All right.
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thanks so much, HB.
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Thanks so much, Fernando.
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Thank you so much.
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Don't go into the forest.
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Yes.
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Thank you very much.
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All of you.
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I would like to, first of all, encourage anybody to have a donor name that is an ominous warning.
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Oh, yeah.
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I enjoy that.
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Which forest?
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Exactly.
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That's an issue.
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If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support
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these gents.
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You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the
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show.
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We would appreciate it.
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We would love it, but do not go to Schwarzwandt.
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That's the Black Forest.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What else could people do?
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Well, you know what, Dan?
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Some people could absolutely be filled with that generous spirit and want to give or donate
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to someone, but then realize that they would have to wait a week to deal with that.
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Oh, yeah.
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You just can't wait a week because the generous spirit is so strong within you.
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Find a way to get that money out now, Dan.
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To a local charity.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Nailed it.
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Thanks, Dan.
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I was worried it was going to end in Yggdrasil or some nonsense.
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Not that that's nonsense, but whatever.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Sure, I get you.
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So, Jordan, before we begin, here's an out of context drop from today's show.
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I mean, it's like when you watch Dancing with the Stars in the final episode or whatever,
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because I'm not a big TV guy, but I do like watching good looking women dance.
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And when it's cool to watch the guys and all of it, it's really cool.
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It's cool to see celebrities dance.
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I mean, it's fun.
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Okay.
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You can't.
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You don't need to justify why you watch a TV show.
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This is a problem with being on the far right.
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You can't just enjoy what you enjoy.
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You have to fight for it.
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Yeah.
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I got tricked because Sean Spicer was on, and I watched it, and hey, some of the chicks
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were hot.
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Whatever.
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Actually, I don't even like the dancing at all.
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The way that they get pirouette, and the throws, and the...
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It seems unmanly for me to enjoy watching people dance.
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Exactly.
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Isn't that what he just said?
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More or less.
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That's exactly what he just said.
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Yeah, it's so sad.
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I'm insecure about watching dance.
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Enjoy what you enjoy.
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Right?
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Anyway, here we go.
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We're jumping in on the seventh Saturday.
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Alex's day off.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Back from his trip to Phoenix, where he yelled into an adult-sized bullhorn, and, hey, man,
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if Biden's really president, which it looks like he is, Alex has bad news.
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Uh-oh.
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It is Saturday, November 7th, the year is 2020, and if we accept the false claims of
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Joe Biden and his communist Chinese deep state handlers that he is the president with the
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fraud we've just witnessed, then you could really see this as a good day to put on the
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Republic's tombstone, born July 4th, 1776, died November 7th, 2020.
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That's what this is.
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Alex has called it Death of America, November 7th, 2020.
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As a millionaire, I can tell you that the tragedy of the Biden administration will be
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that they raised the marginal income tax on individuals making over $500,000 a year to
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above 35%, Dan, and that is the end of the Republic.
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What's that I hear?
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I think that's the church bells ringing for the funeral of America.
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That's it.
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It's going to go back up to 44%.
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Yeah.
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Can you imagine how angry 2 Chainz is going to be then?
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So mad.
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He's so mad.
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In this next clip, we learn, look, this is the problem that I have.
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He starts off the show talking about put this date on America's tombstone.
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Sure.
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Then he says things like this.
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And we can talk all day about the failures of Trump and why this was able to happen.
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We can talk about what Trump should have done better, and we're going to do that so we don't
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make the mistakes next time.
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What next time?
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What the fuck next time?
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According to Alex, there is no next time.
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This isn't just a political party that you disagree with that now has control of the
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executive branch of the government.
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This is the fucking devil taking over.
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Without Trump there to stop them, the story is supposed to be that there's nothing to
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protect the Patriots from getting rounded up and the entire world being killed off with
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a super bio weapon, a false flag ice age, or maybe nukes, depending on what Alex is
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feeling that day.
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Chicago's gone for sure.
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It's downright insulting for Alex to have the nerve to act like a political commentator
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right now when his candidate has been projected to lose.
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He has this tantrum about the death of the Republic being on November 7th and immediately
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gets into the mode you'd expect to see on regular outlets.
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They're doing a post mortem on the campaign.
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Where were the flaws in the strategy?
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Where is there room for improvements?
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We can do better next time.
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Let's talk midterms.
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Normal people get to do that because they don't live in an artificial reality they use
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to abuse their audiences, where if their guy loses the election, pedophile demons will
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run the street and God's fire filled judgment will be upon us.
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Alex doesn't get to wargame about the midterms.
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He lost that right when he made the terms of this election supernatural.
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Yeah I believe it was if Biden wins, they're going to switch to plan B and kill all of
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us immediately.
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They're not even going to give us the three years?
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That wasn't even conditional on the election.
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That was just something Alex said they'd decided to do because Alex is too effective.
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He was in a bad mood.
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I gotcha.
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The Infowar is too strong so they're gonna just kill us off instead of the fun ordered
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killing us off that they like to do because the devil loves plans.
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I don't even think that's, you know what, there's nothing to be ashamed about in losing
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to the devil.
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You're supposed to lose to the devil.
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The only person who wins against the devil is Jesus, man.
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Well, and Johnny.
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Oh well, Johnny does too.
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He rosined up that bow and played his fiddle hard.
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I gotcha.
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So we got two.
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Yeah.
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Alright.
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And Johnny was really a Christ metaphor.
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And honestly, it was more of a single issue thing.
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That wasn't a real, like, he wasn't trying to change the whole world.
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Right.
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It was really just about fiddle playing.
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It was mainly fiddling, yes.
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The devil acts with honor in fiddle contests.
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Well, if you count, like, the other ripoff songs of The Devil Went Down to Georgia, then
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I think some other people might have been the devil too, because there's other versions.
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There was at least one juggler who went down to Georgia.
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Our friend Marty DeRosa informed me of the song, like, The Devil Went Down to Detroit,
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I think.
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I believe that's the name of it.
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It's like a rap version.
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Sure.
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And these guys have, like, a DJ contest with the devil.
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I think they win.
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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Look, a lot of people may have fictitiously beat the devil.
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But look.
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I'm sort of saying it.
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There's no shame in that.
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You're not supposed to beat the devil.
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Right.
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Why are you beating yourself up over this?
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I don't know if he's beating himself up by it.
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Oh, that's fair.
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I want to stress one of the compelling reasons not to respect Alex Jones.
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He is an intellectual coward.
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He can't stand to be wrong to such a ridiculous extent that he set up this election as a battle
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between good and evil, which evil could not possibly win.
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And even if they did, good secretly actually won because evil cheated in a way that's never
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going to be proven.
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Now that the supposedly evil side has won, Alex won't even stick to his own parameters
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and act like the literal devil just beat his hero.
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Alex doesn't even have the integrity to present for a minute that any of the stuff he was
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screaming about and fake crying about on air means anything.
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Because it's time to move on and learn the lessons of the last election and apply them
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to whatever white supremacist he supports next time because they insist they're just
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a nationalist.
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He's a child.
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This more than many other moments is a very clear and unmistakable instance of retreat.
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Get the fuck out of here with that learning lessons for next time shit.
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You don't get to do that.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Other people get to do that.
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I resent that.
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Honestly, there are very few situations where I don't think now that many of these people
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are private citizens, we should spit on them every single time they go outside.
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Like there's no way Alex should not be spit on regularly.
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There's no way that like fucking, if Trump walks down fucking a street in Manhattan,
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he should be spit on by thousands of people on a constant daily basis.
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Yeah.
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I think that you could make an argument that spitting is a form of assault and maybe I'm
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not into that.
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Fair.
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Yelling is better.
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I'll go with you as far as yelling.
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You'll go with me as far as yelling.
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Tiny bullhorning.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Tiny bullhorning.
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Tiny bullhorning.
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Anytime Alex leaves his house, people, a crew of-
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He should be surrounded with tiny bullhorners.
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I think they're, I think you're right.
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Yes.
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The spitting on people I think is a little bit gross.
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Well, now it's definitely attempted murder.
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Certainly in an age of COVID.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's fair.
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You know, you don't want to sort of express support for that kind of behavior.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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Aim away from him.
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Yeah.
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Yelling with a tiny bullhorn through your mask.
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I like it.
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I like it.
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That's perfectly-
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That's safe.
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Yeah.
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I think that's-
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I think that's good.
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That's the middle ground.
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What I'm saying is these people should be hounded to the ends of the earth.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Bark at people through bullhorns.
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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So Alex has a concern that a lot of his, you know, everyone's getting censored.
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Everyone's getting kicked off.
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All the patriots are being taken off all social media platforms.
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Sure.
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And you see the mass censorship now, as we predicted, almost total censorship.
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No media that I saw carrying Giuliani's press conference.
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Thank God there's right side broadcasting.
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Thank God there's info wars picking it back up.
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Thank God you're out there amplifying it.
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But this is a serious war.
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So yeah, man, everyone's getting taken down, except for people like info wars and right
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side broadcasting that'll stand up and cover Rudy Giuliani's wonderful press conference.
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Somebody's gotta-
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I would suspect that most media outlets, if they didn't, they didn't cover Rudy Giuliani's
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press conference out of respect for him, since that shit was super embarrassing.
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Also, it wasn't censored.
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People were making fun of it all over the place.
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Yeah.
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This was, of course, the Four Seasons press conference.
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As best as anyone can tell, someone in the campaign may have thought that they booked
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the Four Seasons hotel conference room for the presser, but it actually set up an event
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in front of a small landscaping company called Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
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I have no idea what actually happened here, if they intended it to be there or if someone
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screwed up, but it was pretty hilarious.
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Giuliani gave a rambling nonsense speech right at the moment when the networks called the
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race for Biden.
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Ooh.
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It was a total mess.
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Oh, brutal.
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At the event, one of Giuliani's guests was an alleged poll watcher named Darryl Brooks,
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who turned out to also have been, quote, incarcerated in the 1990s on charges of sexual assault,
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lewdness, and endangering the welfare of a minor by exposing himself to two girls ages
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seven and 11.
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Ah, it's a false flag Democrat, if I ever heard one.
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Well, according to an article in The Cut, quote, Brooks denied the charges and said
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his arrest was a police setup.
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Oh.
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So-
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There we go.
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Claims of false flag-
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So it's a double false flag.
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Perhaps.
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That's what led into becoming the false flag.
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That's what happened.
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I don't know.
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Ah, must be.
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Anyway, because this guy is somebody who's identifiable, it makes things a little bit
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more confusing for the claims that were being made at this press conference.
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Apparently, it was being alleged that Brooks was a poll watcher in Philadelphia and not
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being allowed in to check the rolls and everything.
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But he lives in New Jersey, and it's not like he's a low profile New Jersey resident.
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An article in Politico quoted Reed Giscoria, the mayor of Trenton, New Jersey, as describing
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Brooks as, quote, New Jersey's perennial candidate, because Brooks had run from many different
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offices in New Jersey, including the Senate and House.
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Wow.
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The state of Pennsylvania requires poll watchers to be registered voters in the counties they
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wish to poll watch, so he couldn't have actually been in a position to actually make the claims
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that he was making.
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Right, right, right, right.
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This whole thing was a disaster for Giuliani, from the strange location to the almost comically
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bad timing to the poll watcher alleged who he had as a witness who couldn't possibly
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be a poll watcher but is actually a convicted child abuser.
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If anything, I would expect Alex to want less coverage of this.
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Everything is bad.
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Every element of that press conference was bad.
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Yeah, I mean, but that's a perfect example of how we are held hostage by their unreality.
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That should be a criminal offense.
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All the stuff that happened at that presser, I know they're not illegal, but if you do
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that, you should be like, you can't be near other people.
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Tiny bullhorns.
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You're going to get someone hurt.
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We need crews of people with tiny bullhorns on the ready.
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That's what Arkham Asylum is for.
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People who accidentally scheduled press conferences in front of the Four Seasons fucking...
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Flamescaping.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's Arkham.
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It's not a crime.
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It's something that people need to be kept there.
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Imagine.
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You got the Joker.
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You got Killer Croc.
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You got Rudy Giuliani.
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Why are you here?
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I set up a weird press conference.
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They would all be like, yeah, no, you're the only one we're not letting escape.
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You're too gone for us.
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Whenever the Riddler comes and lets everyone out, he leaves Rudy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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At least we get the place we're going to heist right, okay?
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Batman doesn't beat us there because we got to the wrong place, okay?
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They're like, oh, no, no, no, Rudy, you got to stay here to give a message to the Bat
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for us.
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Give a press conference.
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Outside of Arkham Asylum.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Ugh.
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God.
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What an asshole.
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Yep.
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Jesus.
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So Alex gets to talking about the China.
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He has this interesting idea that isn't based in really anything, but I got really lost
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in thought after listening to this clip because I think it's really a really good example
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of why it's really frustrating to take things that Alex says at all seriously.
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So instead of making China a capitalist country at the end of World War II, criminal elements
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of the Rockefeller Combine, Dave Rockefeller wrote a book about this and wrote two articles
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in the New York Times, and I always go back to this because this is key, this is the real
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world, and sent George Herbert Walker Bush in there with James Baker and the rest of
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them to make a deal with the communist Chinese after they'd spent 25 years enslaving and
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killing 80 million other people and getting them to behave and after they'd follow every
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directive of one child policies and horrible things that the Rockefellers told them to
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do.
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They said, yeah, kill about 80 million of your people and one child policy and we'll
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make you the global superpower of economics, but you're not allowed to have a big military.
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But of course, wink, wink, they're globalists.
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They were building a big military the whole time.
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That's why you saw the pivot under Obama was because China wasn't following its agreement
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to not be expansionist.
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They were given all the rare earth minerals and all the economic power and they were allowed
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to economically expand, but America would economically close, but then would have military
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dominance still.
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That's how you divide power.
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That's the rollerball allegory.
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That's really how globalism works.
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The original movie with James con 1972 or whatever it is is dead on.
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Yeah, of course.
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It's always, it's always a fucking movie and that's why like it's so frustrating to listen
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to him.
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Like it starts with, you know, that clip there, it starts with him saying something really
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absurd like that a decision was made by people like the Rockefellers to have China not be
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capitalist at the end of world war II and that kind of thing gets me kind of interested.
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Well, at least it would have earlier on doing this show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, that's, that's a laughable and nonsensical claim.
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You know that even without doing any research, like what does it even mean?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I would ask Alex to explain what mechanisms were used by the Rockefellers to keep China
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from being a capitalist country.
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If I were to do this because of doing this show, I know that Alex would just point to
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John Birch society talking points about how the U S didn't do enough to help Shanghai
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Shek in the Chinese civil war, which is the claim that's then exaggerated into the Rockefellers
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installed Mao.
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Sure.
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Still, I like this absurd claim.
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It's stupid, but probably sounds smart to his audience and I can kind of appreciate
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that.
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That's kind of the kind of the sort of thing that I dig my, uh, my, my teeth into.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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He claims that David Rockefeller wrote a book and two articles in the times about this whole
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China stuff.
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And that's just not true.
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The op-eds Rockefeller wrote don't look great with the hindsight of history on our side,
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but they're nothing like Alex is claiming them to be.
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He also wrote a book called memoirs, which is an autobiography, but if that admission
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is in there, it'd be really simple for Alex to produce it, which weirdly he never does.
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Then everything falls apart with the rambling about the imaginary deal where China gets
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to have the economy and U S gets to have the military, which incidentally is something
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similar to like, uh, something Alex might be cribbing from a piece of dystopian sci-fi
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from the time when he was a child.
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Yep.
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Seems to be a pattern.
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Yeah.
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It does seem like that is often the case.
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Yeah.
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The original movie roller.
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What's your favorite X file, Dan?
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Logan.
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Yep.
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The original movie roller ball was based on a short story called roller ball murder by
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William Neil Harrison published in Esquire in September, 1973.
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It's a little bit different than what the movie ended up being.
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Uh, as it's far more a statement about the rising brutality and public's taste in entertainment.
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There are also similarities to the movie version though.
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Like it's a kind of clunky and not, not super great short story itself.
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There's a lot of mention of various women's shapeliness, but I mean, James con was great
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in the movie.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I read it.
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I read something that James Cod was talking about.
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Like, uh, he's like, man, love doing those roller ball scenes, but then I had to go at
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act.
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All right.
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Ah, that was about as a process for thief too.
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I think loved those roller ball scenes.
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In the short story.
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It's not so much like different countries do different things.
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It's that within the United States, different corporations run six different concerns of
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life, energy, transport, food, housing, services, and luxury.
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Each is a super powerful corporation and the main character, Jonathan E plays for the roller
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ball team run by energy company based in Houston.
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The actual story is about a guy who's the best roller ball player in the world, struggling
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with his sense of self, finding himself unsatisfied while living a life filled with money, power,
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sex, and celebrity.
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The brutality of the sport has been increasing with new rules being added to satisfy the
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public's lust for violence.
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Gradually things get more violent with rules added to penalize players who aren't trying
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hard enough by having their helmets confiscated.
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This all culminates in the all-star game at the end of the season, where there's a new
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rule that's added where there's no time limit for the game, essentially making a gladiatorial
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contest where pretty much everyone is guaranteed to die.
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Jonathan wants something more out of his life, but he doesn't know what, but as the all-star
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game gets closer, his only request is that he'd be able to see his estranged wife again.
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She comes to him and they fuck for a few days and then they remember their shared love that
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they had.
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Jonathan had convinced himself that in the past she'd been taken from him by the evil
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corporation, but he realizes that wasn't the case.
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Quote, it would be nice, I think, once to imagine that she was taken away from me by
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some malevolent force in this awful age, but I know the truth of that.
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She went away simply because I wasn't enough back then, because those were the days when
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I yearned - before I yearned for anything, when I was beginning to live to play the game.
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But no matter.
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For a few days she sits on my bed and I touch her skin like a blind man.
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It's implied that they both realize they can't go back to their younger lives even if there
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is love between them, and Jonathan knows that he has to play the all-star game even if it
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means almost certain death.
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The story concludes, quote, before the game begins I stand with my team as a corporation
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him plays.
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I'm brute speed today, I tell myself, trying to rev myself up, yet a dream in my thoughts
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I'm a bit unconvinced.
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A chorus of voices joins the band now as the music swells.
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The game, the game, all glory to it, the music rings, and I can feel my lips move with the
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words singing.
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William Harrison fleshed out the story into a screenplay that no longer really resembles
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the point of this original work, there's some parts of it that are still carried over, and
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it actually directly contradicts it at certain points.
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The director of the movie has explained why they made the movie, telling the Guardian,
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quote, I thought that violence for the entertainment of the masses was an obscene idea.
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This is what I saw coming, and that's why I made the film.
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The original and the movie are both commentaries on the idea of brutality as entertainment,
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but in order to make the movie out of a ten page story, they needed to add a whole plot
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about the corporations fearing that Jonathan was becoming too much of an individual in
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the corporate world built on conformity.
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Sure, Logan's run just came out recently.
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The game and the people's reaction to it, as well as the violence depicted in the movie
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itself and the people's reaction to that, were the point of the movie rollerball.
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If it has any artistic merit, it's that attempt for a statement.
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The dystopian sci-fi future backdrop, they're absolutely unnotable, and they only really
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exist as a way of justifying why the game exists.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Alex doesn't know how to wrestle with or analyze works of art.
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He refuses to understand subtext or deeper meaning, so it honestly makes perfect sense
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that he'd think that all this dystopian fiction from his youth is secretly about the communist
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conspiracy that no one will admit is right in front of their face.
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Here's an example.
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There is a phenomenon you could point to, which is that a lot of movies, particularly
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dystopian action movies, seem to exist in a world ruled by rigid authoritarians who
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have molded society into a state of uniformity.
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You could point this out and provide a number of examples, and that's fair.
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Alex might see this phenomenon and argue that this is because the globalists are using predictive
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programming to tell the world about what they're going to do to them.
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There's a cosmic contract law clause that states that these evildoers can't carry out
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their evil deeds unless we all consent to them, so they put this stuff in movies to
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get us to accept it.
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That is the theory for why there's such a consistent feature like this in this genre.
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I would argue that it's because the setting of a rigid, uniform world is one where it's
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incredibly easy to differentiate a hero character from the rest of the world.
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Even an anti-hero or a flawed person can easily be cheered for when they're the only person
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who has any modicum of individuality in a sea full of facelessness.
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Putting your character and their story into that setting is kind of a genre-based shortcut
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for plots where the tension is about individualism versus conformity.
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Engaging with text and art with even just a baseline of critical ability allows you
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to see authorial intent and understand the more complicated things that are being said
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by artistic works, and it brings a richness to your life.
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It's a critically important exercise now more than ever, and honestly, it's one of the
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things that I find most fascinating about Alex.
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I do believe that most of the stuff he says is embellishment or lies or things he doesn't
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actually believe or kind of believes, that his inability to grasp the point of literature
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in movies is something so consistent in his career that I find it difficult to accept
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that it's not a genuine feature of his brain.
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So yeah, it's annoying to do this show because I end up thinking about Rollerball.
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Yeah, that'll happen.
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And thinking about like, huh, there was an attempted statement that they were making
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there and the corporations and shit in the movie and all that is really just to make
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it so you're watching this movie and you're like, oh yeah, that's why that exists.
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That's why that brutal game exists that would never exist in our world.
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The commentary is about people's taste for sport and entertainment becoming more and
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more violent and the logical extension of that is a game where everyone's killing each
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other.
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Everyone's like, ah, that itself could not exist in our reality.
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So the commentary couldn't be made by plugging it into the present day because there'd be
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too many things like, hey, why isn't everyone getting sued for this?
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This would never fly.
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So you plug it into this dystopian authoritarian world in the future and then you're like,
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oh yeah, that makes sense.
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And it makes it so much easier to cheer on your hero, Jonathan M. Even if he's not a
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great person.
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I wonder what it would have been like if Alex, instead of being into hard sci-fi and watching
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Rollerball at that age, he would instead watch like, they shoot horses, don't they?
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Watching everybody in that fucking exploitative, destructive dance contest, realizing that
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the real dystopia is where we live now.
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I just, I, I, I just, I don't know.
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I do wish that he was better at reading.
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Yeah, that would be nice.
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I wish a lot of people were better.
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I wish almost everyone was better at reading.
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It's a, it's a difficult skill.
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It is, it seems like it should be easy considering we talk to each other, but then you think
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about it and you realize most people don't even talk to each other, honestly.
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It's really hard to understand what people are saying because their brains don't speak
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the words that their brains think.
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Yeah.
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It's very strange.
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One of the more interesting things that...
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I feel like an alien right now.
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These human beings, they act so strange.
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So weird.
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Yeah.
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One of the more interesting things I found while I was looking at, I was reading about
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Rollerball was that the writer, William Harrison, he was like, I want more violence in this
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movie.
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Of course.
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He was like, he wants the movie to be super violent.
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He wants to make the point that the violence is supposed to be repulsive.
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So brutal that when you watch it, you go, no.
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You're disgusted by it.
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And then when people watched Rollerball, they were like, man, Rollerball is cool.
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Yeah.
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And then the director of it was talking about how like most of the, most of the European
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audiences that we've talked to understand that it's supposed to be that this is disgusting.
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And most American audiences are like, we should start a Rollerball league.
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Frankly, what's CTE?
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What's the difference between CTE and Rollerball?
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We might as well get Rollerball while we're at it.
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Anyways, Vince McMahon, get the XFL the fuck out of here.
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Get the RFL right in here, man.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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So anyway, that sort of off sidetrack about the Rollerball off to the way, we get more
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complaints about China.
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That we live under this and it's all been one-sided.
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It's not about Kumbaya and one world living together and all this great stuff.
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Communist China was allowed to buy up our debt, buy up Hollywood, buy up our whole infrastructure.
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So I've been thinking about this for a while, and I think that this is one of the newer
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formulations of like the Jews run all the banks, you know, that kind of bigoted conspiracy
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theory.
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I think that the Chinese own all our debt is a sort of a new one of those.
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It's one that a lot of people, if they don't do any research, kind of passively accept
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because it sounds like something they've heard someone say before.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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And it's like, oh yeah, why wouldn't they?
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They bought up all our debt is such an intimidating thing where you're like, why would you buy
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debt?
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I'll believe you.
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Yeah.
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But it's just complete bullshit.
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According to Market Watch, the US government itself owns 27% of the US debt, with US investors
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owning a further 32.5%.
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The Federal Reserve owns 11.2%, which is just a slightly more complicated form of the government
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owning it.
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So all that added up is 70.9% of the US national debt that's owned essentially by US interests.
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Sure.
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Compared to that, the amount owned by China is not that much.
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As of 2018, they held about 5.6% of our national debt in the form of like treasury bonds.
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But Japan also had 4.9%.
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And I don't hear Alex yelling about the dreaded Japanese threat.
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Oh, well, they make our Sony stuff.
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These countries have bought these bonds because generally speaking, they're considered good
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investments, since most world currency is tied to the dollar.
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Also in 2020, Japan overtook China as the largest foreign investor in our debt.
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So the dynamic that Alex is describing is even more wrong.
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Ah, but what you're getting wrong there is China owns 99% of Japan's debt.
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So they secretly own all of the other 4.4%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So people, they want to spread this fear, and what it's based on is the idea that China
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owns our debt.
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And what they can do is they can call in that debt, like you repay your debt whenever they
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want.
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Like a landlord who's giving you a slide.
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Exactly.
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And this is just another anti-communist conspiracy talking point that's based on more or less
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nothing.
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Alex wants to create that image because it means that China rules us.
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They can say the word and destroy our economy at any second.
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They don't own enough of our debt to really matter that much in that term, and also investing
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in our debt doesn't work like that.
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Our national debt is a super complicated thing, and it isn't the same as your personal debt
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that you might have if you're like laid on a gas bill.
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There are too many real world factors to make it sensible to discuss as like a one factor
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thing, like bigger number debt equals worse, or whatever.
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But that's basically what Alex is doing, and then adding on a layer of conspiracy China-baiting
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for fun.
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China didn't buy up all our debt, they don't own Hollywood, and they didn't buy all our
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infrastructure.
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Yeah.
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These are all just talking points Alex repeats over and over again until his audience accepts
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them as being fact, when it's all just kind of warmed over birch or nonsense.
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Yeah, it's very interesting to me that like one of the ways that the conservative propagandists
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get normal people to believe they're bullshit is because they try and make it that micro
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level of like, you have debt.
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If someone calls in that debt, that'll fuck up your day.
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The same thing is true for the United States, but what they don't realize is that when you
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get to the United States, money's imaginary.
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If they called in our debt, what happens?
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We print more, and then inflation goes up, and their money's worth less.
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You know, like it's stupid.
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There is a serious incentive for them not to do this based on their own economy.
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Yeah, it's all imaginary.
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You can print more money, and that's fine.
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You're just, inflation goes up, and all other kinds of bullshit happens.
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There's a hundred different after effects of that that, you know, there's, yeah.
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It's all magic.
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It's all magic.
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But even that being understood, what Alex is saying is just dumb.
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Totally.
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But it sounds compelling in the same way that, you know.
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You have debt, and if somebody calls it in, it'll fuck your day up.
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It's very simple to like get across.
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So I want to ask you a question here, Jordan.
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I think that you've done, you know, we've been at this for a while.
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You understand Alex pretty well.
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In this next clip, Alex discusses what his greatest sadness is.
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Do you think that you could guess what his greatest sadness is?
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The just unending swath of dead dogs in his wake.
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I would assume that that guilt would weigh heavily upon him.
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I don't know if he feels that bad about it.
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Just an astonishing number.
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Most of the time when he talks about it, it seems like those dogs had it coming.
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It's almost wistful, yeah.
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According to him.
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Yeah.
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No, you're incorrect.
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OK.
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Here's my greatest sadness.
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The average person that's a leftist buys into the system, they go and they get one degree
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and they can't get a job.
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They get two degrees.
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They can't get a job.
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They get three degrees.
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They can't get a job.
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Or they get some little government or bureaucracy job and they tell them, once we overthrow
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America and create a socialist utopia, you're all going to be in charge and have mansions.
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And they believe this.
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They're never going to be brought into the power structure.
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They're absolute jokes and they're vicious and they're hateful.
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So Alex's greatest sadness is over-educated liberals and leftists who can't find jobs.
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Yeah.
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So the socialist utopia is a capitalist utopia where we switch who lives in mansions.
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Is that what he thinks is going on?
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Yeah, probably.
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He would assume so, right?
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He doesn't understand socialism at all.
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In this next clip, Alex has recognized that there are, you know, some people showing up,
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maybe it's state capitals and being like, false flaggers.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're the real deal.
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Patriots.
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Oh, I wouldn't admit that right now.
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They're good Patriots.
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Just going down there to say, Hey, what's going on?
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I wouldn't admit that preemptively votes, you know, and stuff.
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Sure.
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And because of this, there's also a lot of people who are showing up at the white house
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and Alex thinks that, you know, there's a few people now, but soon there'll be millions.
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It's so obvious by the weekend, they'll announce by the winter, they're going to pick a Saturday.
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So people aren't at work.
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And so they can all use social media to say, let's put a million people around the white
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house.
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It won't be a million today.
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It'll be a hundred thousand today today.
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Won't be a million today, it'll be a hundred thousand.
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But by the time Trump isn't leaving in a week or two, there'll be a million, 2 million,
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and they will tear those barricades up and storm the white house.
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That's been the plan.
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The Democrats said that's their plan and Hey, the globalists have never gotten in trouble
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for anything they've done.
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So why wouldn't they do that?
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Because they're never held accountable.
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I mean, if Trump like directly is like, I don't respect the results of an election,
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you know, and it's like, I'm not leaving.
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I wouldn't be surprised if tons of people show up.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how to quantify numbers, but I w I mean, a million people showing up outside
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the white house doesn't seem impossible to me.
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I think that's a pretty, you know, that, that might happen if a leader refuses to step down.
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I could see it.
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At a certain point, I think we can, we could go real high.
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We could go real high then.
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Not good.
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Not good.
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Definitely not good.
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There were tense standoffs outside the white house a couple months ago over the George
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Floyd protests and what have you.
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I don't, I don't know if people would storm the white house, but people would be shaking
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fences.
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You think we're going to get a moat around the white house soon?
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I don't know.
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You want to go with a moat?
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I don't, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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You don't know.
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I think, I think a moat's coming and I think it's, I'm fine with that.
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Let them have the house.
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Let them have the house.
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Let them live there.
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Lock them in there.
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Give them a moat.
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Put alligators on there.
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I was just thinking about if they do a moat, I have the solution.
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Tons of jello.
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A bunch of jello powder in there.
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Oh man.
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Make a jello moat.
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That's true.
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That is true.
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The moat system may be outdated in terms of defensive effectiveness.
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Yeah, back in medieval times, they didn't have jello.
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You didn't have jello.
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So anyway, there's a situation here where Alex is, I just really can't stand this waffly
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back and forth nonsense of the fucking devil's coming.
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Oh, hey, let's learn lessons for next time.
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Hey, come on.
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Or this, apparently, you know, hey, maybe, maybe, maybe everything will be all right.
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I'm going to air some clips and then I'm gonna get refocused and come back, go through the
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election fraud, go through other key points of who's behind the machines, how there is
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a very narrow way out of this.
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A very narrow way out of this.
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And then I'm going to explain that there is another path.
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And that path actually is more destructive and very horrible, but will actually hasten
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the destruction of the global order and the destruction of the new world order.
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And they have stepped into it.
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Now, I have no desire to go down this path, but I will go down it if they take us there.
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And don't worry, you're going to go down that path, too, because there's no getting out
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of this now.
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Everyone is going to see world government manifest, you're going to see everything I've
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told you come true, everything, everything.
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So that's violence.
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That's street violence.
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That's murder of your neighbors and war and stuff.
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That's the other path.
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But there's a narrow path, which is Trump seizing power, basically.
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You can kind of get the sense that, like, okay, now the conversation has become, Trump
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has got to become king or else, like, we're all fucking shooting.
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And that's not encouraging, I would say.
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For sort of a baseline, so you're like, yeah, this is just where we're at, I don't know
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if I enjoyed that.
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No, I mean, right now I enjoyed the election results coming in and Biden winning outright.
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That's good stuff.
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But the amount of overconfidence and gloating that's going on before Trump has entirely
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left the White House is a little nerve wracking for me.
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I don't like it when people who I've seen gloat before and have all of our lives destroyed
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because of it gloat again.
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I don't like it.
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I don't like seeing it.
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Yeah, and I think because it's kind of untested territory, we really don't know how much of
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the stuff that goes on between an election and an inauguration is norms.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's going to, we're going to turn out to find, it's going to be a lot, it's going to
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be a lot of norms.
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It very well may be.
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It's going to be a lot of norms that are no longer on the, on Cheers.
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So in this next clip, Alex has very few friends left in the media, or I mean, not friends,
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just people who even just doesn't hate now.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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One of them, Lou Dobbs.
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Sure.
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He likes Lou Dobbs.
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All right.
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First I want to play a very important clip.
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Sidney Powell with Lou Dobbs discusses hammer and scope card.
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And this is very, very important.
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It's a good place to start.
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So we're going to play this clip and we'll be right back.
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So the long and short of this is that there's a conspiracy going around that there's a super
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secret overpowered computer called hammer that can run a program called scorecard, which
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was used to manipulate and change the results of this election.
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This desperate and absurd conspiracy is being sold by people like guests on Steve Bannon's
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show, Mike Flynn's attorney, Sidney Powell, and Lou Dobbs.
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These are high profile people in right-wing spheres.
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This just isn't like some fringe, completely online nonsense.
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So I was wondering, where did this come from?
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Luckily, I did not have to look too far.
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Will Sommer over at the Daily Beast had already put together a great piece about how all the
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claims about this supercomputer and the program come from a single source.
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It's someone who I have a special bond with.
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This all comes from Dennis Montgomery.
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God damn it.
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Yup.
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God fucking damn it.
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I was amazed.
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How has Dennis Montgomery found a way to claw back into reality?
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I was amazed to see his name come up again.
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Motherfucker.
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It would take far too long to get into this right now, but back in March 2017, on the
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25th episode of our podcast, we dedicated two and a half hours to Dennis Montgomery
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and his various frauds.
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So if anyone's interested in why you don't need to take anything that traces back to
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him seriously, go ahead and check that episode out.
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My god.
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Also, Will's article on it is a really good breakdown too.
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I believe it.
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This is how these dicks work.
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Supposedly respectable outlets on the right are so desperate for a big overarching explanation
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for how they were screwed in the election that they're willing to amplify and give credibility
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to claims being made by a career con man whose lawyer is Larry fucking Clayman.
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You can't do it.
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How is it that even in this world, people don't just like, Oh, it's Larry Clayman.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Like Larry Clayman, Larry Clayman's coming for you eventually.
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Like it doesn't matter what if you're on the hard right.
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It doesn't matter.
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Sooner or later, Larry Clayman, Larry Clayman is going to sue you.
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Hey, sued Alex.
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He sued everyone.
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Roger Stone.
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Don't listen to him now.
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No, you don't even need to worry about the lawsuits.
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Just look at him and look at the things he's done.
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Look at the, the, the, the track record and be like, yeah, pass.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Don't care.
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You could have the biggest scoop in the world and I'm going to take the hit if you're right
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this time.
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Totally.
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I'm going to just bite the bullet and say, I don't trust anything you say.
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And if that bites me in the ass, I still did the right thing.
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The idea that you might like see a James O'Keefe video pop up and just be like, well, maybe
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he got it right this time.
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No, no, no.
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That's bad.
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That's bad thinking.
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Yep.
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So this next clip, Alex, like I said, he's, he's, he's kind of interested in these ideas
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about millions of people showing up at the white house, but also he doesn't like that
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the media is downplaying the number of people that are coming to Owen Schroyer's rally in
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Austin.
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He's very preoccupied and spends a lot of time talking about crowd sizes in Austin.
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Oh, and get out of studio for a while.
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Notice that there are thousands of people at rallies at all 50 capitals around the United
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States.
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I was down there just a few hours ago at the Texas Capitol DPS estimated there were about
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2000 people.
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Thousands more are showing up right in front of the South side of the Texas Capitol.
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And again, I sent some photos to you guys.
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It's actually on Savannah Hernandez's Twitter from a building above that actually shows
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the big giant crowd.
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I'll just pull it up on my phone, but the local news you will notice is not showing
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it because the local news does not want you to know what is unfolding and what is happening.
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And that's, that's how they operate.
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Yeah.
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In fact, let's not even show it.
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I want to show the above shots because I don't want to just look at my big fat ugly head
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up there and, you know, talk about how there's thousands of people.
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I'm going to, I want to show the overhead shot.
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I'm gonna go to rebroadcast.
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I'll find it.
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It's not the crew.
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I just have to have this.
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I just have to have it.
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Or I can't do the show.
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Okay.
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And then I'm going to read to you the breakdown from the president, a new statement that has
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come out and then I'm going to go through everything else that is here.
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But right now let's go ahead and play Ali Alexander at the Capitol.
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And then I want to show the project Veritas.
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There it is.
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Look at that.
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And I'm not throwing a fit.
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I just want people to see that I need you to see this picture.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I'm not throwing a fit.
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Yeah.
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I'm not throwing a fit.
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He doesn't actually go to rebroadcast though.
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I mean, whoever he is, whatever intern he's hired was able to pull that up before the
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pot bubbled over.
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Before it got too bad.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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But he does spend a lot more time than this even on just like the crowd size pictures
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and it's like, boy, this is exactly the same as after the 2016 election.
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Sure is.
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This is just like a sort of fun house mirror version of, oh, we did the election.
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We talked about fraud.
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We talked about complaining about different claims about crowd sizes.
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It's just that this guy lost this time.
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It's almost exactly the same.
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Yep.
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Just beat for beat, just with a different angle.
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I just, I just can't believe that they're going to accept this.
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Like it's not going to, every other year during an election season, Alex is going to scream
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about how it's the devil.
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And then every other year he's going to be like, well, I know we lost, but we got a path
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through this and it's never going to stop.
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They will always be convinced that it's the devil and they will always be convinced that
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it's fine that the devil won this time.
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Well, if it's so inferior.
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Yeah.
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If things can keep going, it does seem like that would be just how things will go.
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That's just how it operates.
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Yeah.
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And then just come up with fun, interesting stuff to say about whatever headlines he didn't
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read the articles of and keep going.
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How disappointing would, how disappointed do you think God is that they're like, we
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only fight against the devil in an election year.
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Come on, man.
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And we fight against the devil's assistant during the midterms.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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The devil takes the midterms off.
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You got to delegate responsibility sooner or later.
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Otherwise you burn yourself out.
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And if you're the devil, you're at high risk of burning.
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So Alex is preoccupied with these crowd pictures and I could not find myself giving a shit.
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And I ended up turning off this episode, this Saturday episode, because it was so boring.
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It is so much just like over and over again, rambling, repetitious, the election was stolen,
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but it also was really uninspired.
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Like here's a little clip that just sort of sums up kind of how I feel it went.
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They just stole this bigger than Dallas right out in the open.
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You know, you think about stealing something.
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You're kind of like a cat burglar going in to get the jewels.
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There was no cat burglar in going on here, ladies and gentlemen.
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This was done out in the open.
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There's a feeling of resignation almost to the fact that like, ah, they stole it.
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We've proven it.
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What are you going to do?
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And I don't understand that.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, I understand it if you don't actually believe any of it, then it makes perfect sense.
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I understand that, but that's a weird space to perform in.
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Especially if you've made your last entire year and a half, a referendum on whether or
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not the tree of Liberty does need to be watered with the blood of tyrants from time to time.
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And apparently, I guess not this year.
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It's been abundantly clear what his position on that is.
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You would think that you don't go back from that.
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Yeah.
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So we have this situation where we're, you know, in this period after the election where
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it's the 79 days of hell and Biden is the president elect and Alex, you know, Trump
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hasn't conceded and Alex doesn't know what he's, you know, I, I find it to be like one
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of the most important points for us to be like really tracking what are the moves, what
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are the things he does.
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And I found this Saturday to be just almost unlistenable.
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It's just banging the gong over and over again.
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Election was stolen.
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Treading water.
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But yeah, but treading water, boring.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and so I needed to jump into Sunday and like get a sense of something and I really
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feel like Alex didn't do it for me at the beginning of the show.
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I can tell you as bad as it is, we're going to come through this stronger on the other
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side no matter what happens to Trump.
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We're not.
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The devil is killing us all.
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I'd wish that we could bypass what's coming.
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I wish we could have gone around this, which you could have had an easy landing and kept
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Trump and there's still 20% chance of doing that.
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There's about a hundred percent chance of doing that if Trump takes dramatic action.
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So there's a 20% chance of him winning, I guess, I guess the election and then a hundred
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percent chance of everything going cool if Trump sees his power, right?
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That would be a hundred percent chance.
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I don't know.
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2020, I'd give it a 50 50 shot.
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Well, no, no, no.
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Cause with the hundred percent chances of Alex getting what he wants and he was still
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wouldn't, but he would get the, what he wants in the form of Trump staying in power and
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Trump, not Biden, not being in office where Trump to unilaterally declare himself a dictator.
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That'd be great.
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Yeah.
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I'd be stoked about that.
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So there's only 79 more days of hell.
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So when I do these shows, it requires a lot of thinking, a lot of preparation, a lot of,
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you know, sitting around and thinking like, what is he trying to say here?
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You know, there's a lot of that.
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And so I'm accustomed to stretches of, of intense mental exertion.
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Sure.
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Alex, he is too.
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I brainstormed so hard this morning from about 6 AM to about 12 noon when I got to the office
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that I got completely exhausted about an hour and a half ago and had to go take a nap.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Thinking is hard.
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That's fair.
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I love shit.
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I told everybody to kill everybody, but now I think that's a bad idea.
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So what's my next move?
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Power nap, power nap, seize power nap.
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All right.
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I know what to talk about today.
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You know, I think this is a new thread that I hope will go on throughout the podcast as
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Alex reverting to dream space for his, to find the answers.
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Alex becoming sort of like the shaman of the right wing extremist world.
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He's going to hire a Daniel who's going to interpret his dreams for him and then we've
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got this all covered.
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That's Rob Dew.
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That's why he's still around.
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That's Rob Dew.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Owen's not going to do shit, but yeah.
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So Alex gives a little, tells a little story about his family's breakfast time this morning
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that I found kind of disturbing.
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All right.
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Well, this morning I talked to my oldest daughter and my wife at breakfast while my three year
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old daughter played in toy cars and blocks on the floor and I prepared them both for
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what was happening.
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And both my wife and my oldest daughter finished my sentences before I could even complete
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them and they looked at me and they said, we know you're right.
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We're ready and we understand.
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And it was a very good feeling, a feeling of strength because they weren't repeating
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things that have been drilled into their head.
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I'd never really put these things on them, but they'd been listening and they'd been
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checking the truth.
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My oldest daughter, Charlotte looked to me and she said, dad, you're almost always right.
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A little tear came out her eye.
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And that was meant so much to me when I gave him this speech at the breakfast table at
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8 AM this morning and I laid out the future.
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I told him we tried to stop what was coming.
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I told him what was coming next and they understood.
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You just imagine like sitting around with like some granola, Alex stands up and he's
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like, at this breakfast I must tell you the future.
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This is a dinner conversation for sure.
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Totally.
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This is a family meeting.
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These kids are too young for coffee.
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You can't handle Alex Jones predicting the future without a little caffeine in you.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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That's not fair.
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You can let him get through the morning.
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I'm not going to deal with the apocalypse in the morning.
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Absolutely not.
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I don't know why, but that mental image to me is like in the real world, disturbing.
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Oh, terrifying.
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In a movie, hilarious.
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It's so funny.
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So funny.
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Man.
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And the worst part is, here's the worst part for me.
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The kids don't know something that's fundamentally true that would change everything about their
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outlook on life.
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Their dad is Alex Jones?
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No, they're going to be fine.
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They're going to continue to be rich.
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They're going to continue to be taken care of.
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They're going to continue doing everything with no changes at all.
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Well.
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None.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess I would say they're going to be fine in many material ways.
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Well.
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They're not going to be fine emotionally.
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Without your dad.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no, no.
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That's what I'm saying.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah.
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If he just sat him down and been like, listen, I am always lying.
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We're going to be fine.
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Don't worry.
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Why are you crying?
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There's no need to cry.
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We're rich as shit.
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We don't actually care.
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The tear in her eye and saying you're almost always right doesn't sound like something
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that someone else says.
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That sounds like Alex writing dialogue for imaginary characters.
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It does seem like that.
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Anyway, I would be more upset with him telling this story about preparing his children and
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his wife for the coming tribulation or whatever the fuck if he didn't have really good reason
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to suspect that there is corruption in the election.
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And one of the pieces of evidence he brings to the table is, uh, I mean, fuck, I'm, I'm
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convinced.
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You know, Google has a big article that's up on info wars.com, Google analytics.
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And they had a record search in the days before the election and the days after the election
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that no one ever searches.
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What is the penalty was one of the searches and what is the consequences and what is the
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prison time and what is the jail time?
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These are searches no one's ever done that they ever, but now it was by the thousands
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per state in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in Minnesota, in Wisconsin, in Michigan.
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The search was for what is the consequences?
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What is the penalty?
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What is the prison time for election fraud?
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Wow.
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Cause that's election officials in fraud, not voter fraud.
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Who do you think might be searching?
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There it is.
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Scroll up.
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Google trends, searches for election fraud, punishment surge in the key battleground states.
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It's not just those mores come out.
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That is people checking to see what's going to happen to them.
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What a conclusion he's jumped to.
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That is a big jump.
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So you're saying that people are Googling the crime they're about to commit or have
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committed.
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What kind of trouble am I in?
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What?
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Why?
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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You don't think it might have something to do with maybe right wing people constantly
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hoping retribution will come to their enemies and wishing that there's some sort of punishment
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that they can discover that will be worse than death?
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Silly friend.
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This is a forensic fingerprint that proves that election officials are trying to figure
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out what they got to look forward to because they committed election fraud.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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What a good thinker.
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That is really good thinking.
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Yeah.
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I'm impressed by him constantly.
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If that's the result of his brainstorming, he does not need to work for six hours.
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You should take a nap though.
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You should take a longer nap.
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Yeah.
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Because you'd probably have the exact same analytical abilities.
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Pretty better.
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So Alex says something in this next clip that I found really interesting and it's a good
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example of like how there's sort of a dark mirror version of real world things that are
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oftentimes behind his rhetoric.
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When I come back from break, I'm going to explain what they're saying to the president
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inside the white house right now and how they're trying to get him to concede.
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But let me just say this right now.
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If Trump concedes, they're going to blame him for the COVID-19 deaths.
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They're going to set up a truth and reconciliation commission and demonize all of his supporters
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and they're going to make the lockdown and the shutdown of our economy 10 times worse.
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And now Biden's announced that.
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So I find this kind of interesting.
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I don't know if I disagree too much with Alex's assessment of things that could happen if
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Trump concedes and Biden becomes president.
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I just think that he's portraying these things in an intentionally false light.
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First he says that they'll blame Trump for the COVID-19 deaths.
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And to the extent that anyone should be blamed, it probably should be the executive officer
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of the country who was in a position to make decisions that he failed to make.
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Obviously no one would say that it's all Trump's fault, but the conversation about policy failures
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and new information about what was known when and what was ignored would almost certainly
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paint Trump in a terrible light.
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Especially if he's staked his entire reputation on being a perfect chief executive officer.
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Yeah, you could easily see someone like Alex experiencing a harsh, sober look at Trump's
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virus response as the globalists blaming him for all the deaths.
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So that might actually be a fair assessment just through a twisted mirror.
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I mean, you don't get to take credit for the things that the, and then not take blame for
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things.
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Well, apparently you do.
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Oh, okay.
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Nevermind.
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I forgot about that.
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And there will be truth and reconciliation committees to demonize Trump supporters.
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This is obviously Alex's way of spinning the inevitable necessity of trying to bring humans
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in this country back to a place where we can even communicate with each other.
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The fracturing of a shared reality is something that needs to be addressed, and any attempt
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to do that is a threat to someone like Alex whose entire business relies on the perpetuation
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of that false reality.
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Attempts by people who aren't in his fantasy world to humbly reach out and reintegrate
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people who got sucked into the Trump cult or Q-shit is obviously going to be painted
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as communist indoctrination by Alex and truth and reconciliation committees.
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His business cannot afford for him to present it any other way, but the attempts at reaching
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out and having like, okay, look, that shit was really bad, but we need to figure out
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a way to move forward.
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That will be what this is if Trump concedes.
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The third thing he says is that there will be even harsher lockdowns.
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Now I'm not sure if that's actually the case or how Alex would define any of those terms,
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but I do think that if Biden were to get into office, a more adult, reasonable approach
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to a public health crisis would be enacted.
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It would be easy for Alex to paint that as this harsh crackdown.
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All of the things that he's describing, if Trump concedes, are things that are based
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on kernels of things that could be real.
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It's just preemptively painting them as these evil nefarious plans that the globalists have.
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That's how he gives himself the credibility of having like all these good predictions
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of the hell that will come upon us.
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Sure, but it's not that hard in this case because we already have been told ad nauseum
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what a reasonable response would be and we've already not seen it, so then taking a reasonable
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response is already baked into their propaganda.
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The fact that we didn't take a reasonable response makes us super smart for killing
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200,000 people, and if they do take a reasonable response, then it's because they're trying
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to hurt our economy.
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It's just, yeah, they've already won that messaging.
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On this Sunday, I felt a little bit still untethered, like there wasn't much going on.
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He's just kind of saying the election was stolen.
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Sure.
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Hooray.
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Sure.
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But then we heard this clip, and man, Owen Schroyer, he had Steve Pacanich on and they
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sort of dropped the ball.
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He's about to make up for it in a big way.
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Let's go ahead and lay it out right now.
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Owen Schroyer started tomorrow, he's going to launch a caravan that's going to leave
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at 5 p.m. from a location we're going to announce, and it's going to drive you to Houston and
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then along the Gulf of Mexico border through Louisiana, Mississippi, into Florida, where
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it will turn north into Georgia, and we'll go up through the Carolinas into Virginia,
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where I will meet it in DC on Friday.
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I want to make a bet on this.
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And we're going to call for others to launch caravans around the nation.
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I want to bet on this.
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I would like to bet on this a million dollars.
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In the Midwest, in the South, and in the East Coast, to DC, truckers are already announcing
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big strikes they're going to have, take over to DC this next weekend.
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So don't worry, President Trump, the cavalry's coming.
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Now I'm fucking excited.
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Wow.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Now we are in business.
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Countdown to quit.
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The new segment on Knowledge Fight, countdown to the caravan quitting.
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Well, I mean, caravan is also an unfortunate term for them to use because the right wing
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was all obsessed with the caravans coming from south of the border.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Those are bad caravans.
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Seems like a weird term.
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They should have chosen a different word.
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Yeah.
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But-
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Convoy is right there.
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You guys are southern dum-dums?
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C.W.
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McCall would let you use the song.
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Convoy is right there.
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Yeah.
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Hey there, rubber duck.
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We got Owen Troyer.
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What are we doing?
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We got Owen Troyer with some Smokies on his tail.
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Caravan.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Turn it into a convoy.
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Have a little excitement.
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We're the epic convoy coming up top Trump.
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And caravans are just plodding along from destination to destination.
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Convoys?
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They're escaping some shit.
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Or they're running moonshine.
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Or they're running.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You're right.
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It should be-
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It should be a convoy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And they could-
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This is why the hard right sucks at everything.
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They couldn't even get convoy right.
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It starts with the same letter.
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And if Alex really wanted to put some money into this, he could hire Kellyanne Conway
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to run the Kellyanne Conway convoy.
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Kellyanne Conway, yeah.
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It could work.
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I like it.
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Alliteration should guide all choices.
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Yes.
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So I got very, very, very, very, very, very excited about this.
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Yes, I am very excited.
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I am so pumped to see-
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What a great punishment for Owen, too.
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Wow.
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What a brilliant way to punish Owen.
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Well, actually, I think it's two-pronged.
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I don't know if it's necessarily a punishment, but it's like no one else could probably do
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this.
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True.
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And Owen really came into Infowars by yelling at people on the street.
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True.
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And the only real value to the organization isn't as somebody who can tell whether Steve's
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full of shit or not.
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Not good.
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He can't conduct interviews-
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Nope.
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Credulously at all.
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Really bad at it.
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So why not just send him on a fucking tour convoy and have people yell at him-
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That's what I'm saying.
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And yell at other people.
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It's play people to their strengths.
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Exactly.
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You did the pajonic shit.
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You fucked up.
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Totally.
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Now we're going to get back to basics.
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Yeah.
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We're going to focus on what you do well, and then maybe you'll get your shot again.
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Yeah.
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He got knocked down a peg.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You wanted to play out of position.
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Yep.
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You blew it.
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You blew it.
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Now get back.
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Apprentice, go back to where you began.
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Exactly.
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Absolutely.
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So I'm excited.
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I'm so excited for that.
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The potential for hilarity is so high for this.
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Is this documented?
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Somebody has to have a camera crew there, right?
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No, no, no.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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Owen Schroyer has his own show.
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The One Room.
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I want the raw footage of this road trip.
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There's a channel on band.video right now for the caravan.
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Is it live streaming?
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No, no.
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Oh, shit.
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God damn it.
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I want the raw on this.
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We can edit something beautiful.
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I can't tell you, I've not been this excited for some dumb idea because he can't stop this.
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It's something that's supposed to happen over the course of this week.
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Owen Schroyer is already somewhere, undisclosed location at this point.
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This is happening.
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I want to bet money on whether or not this makes it all...
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I will bet you money right now.
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Alex does not make it to DC.
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I'll take that bet.
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You'll take that bet?
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Alex is flying.
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He's already bought the tickets?
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I'm sure.
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I think he's going to cancel it.
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I don't think he's going to make it.
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What do you want to bet?
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Let's bet 50 bucks.
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Okay.
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Charity.
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Let's bet 10 bucks.
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50 bucks to a charity.
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50 bucks to charity.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'll take that bet.
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Sounds good.
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I'm going to win this bet.
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Alex is going to DC.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I'm going to go dumb.
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I feel like the better bet is whether or not Owen makes it.
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Ooh, that's a good question.
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Because he's actually got a challenge in front of him of stopping at all of these cities.
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That's true.
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Alex is just going to fly.
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That's what I'm saying.
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See, but what I'm saying is if Owen doesn't make it, there's no way Alex can save face
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on that, right?
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It would be tough, but it would also be...
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It's debatable whether or not the presentation would be better if Owen doesn't make it.
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That's true.
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That is true.
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I know.
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I know.
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Oh, man.
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They have to make up some story about him being stopped?
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Oh, that's what I want.
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That's what I want.
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You listen to me good and you listen to me well.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Now.
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Okay.
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If there were any way for this to have been possible, I would almost do anything to be
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on that bus.
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Like to be a Hunter S. Thompson type.
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Totally.
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Like, hey, look, I don't like you guys, but I want to do some Gonzo journalism where I
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come on this bus with Owen.
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I'll stay out of your way.
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I'm not going to fuck with anything.
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Just to be able to record this for history.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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If there's raw footage, this should be filmed all the time.
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This should be a road trip documentary and we should have the final cut.
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This should be the new Cannonball Run.
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Totally.
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Holy shit.
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There it is.
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Holy shit.
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Writing it down.
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Some...
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Now.
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Jordan.
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Jordan.
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Jordan.
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Cold open.
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I have to...
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Fade in.
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I have to...
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I have to punch this up.
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Okay.
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I have to punch this up in there.
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Alright.
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And he's got to get to DC through all these stops.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Also, Antifa is there.
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Right.
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And they have to get to DC.
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So we're getting to wacky racist territory.
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Yes.
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I want John Cleese involved.
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Of course.
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Absolutely.
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Rowan Atkinson can get involved.
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We have rat race going on.
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It's a rat race all over again.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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We need to have an Antifa news organization.
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And then there's, there's gotta be somebody who's dastardly and a dog that laughs.
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These are the things I know about the wacky races.
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And, and one car that's like, they're drunk, but we're not going to show them drinking.
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We're just going to let that go.
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Because they're driving.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They're characters who are drunks.
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You know what's going on.
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Yeah.
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We're not showing this for legal reasons.
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So anyway, you can tell I'm very excited about this.
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I'm stoked about this.
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Yeah.
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This is an exciting new development.
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Yeah.
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This is the first time I've been really excited about something Infowars done in a while.
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Yeah.
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Although I do think that there is the potential for this to go really bad because I think
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a lot of the people who might be drawn to that would be violent type.
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Sure.
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And certainly we, I hope that that's not the case and that's not what I'm excited for.
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I'm excited for Owen tripping over his own foot all the way up the Eastern seaboard.
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Totally.
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That's what I'm interested in.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Imagine if Paul Revere had like a two legged horse.
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That's what we're dealing with here, man.
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Yep.
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So Alex gets to talking to Ali Alexander.
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He comes on and they're just trying to get Trump not to concede.
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Sure.
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And it's so critical Ali to not get the president to concede because the cavalry is coming and
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the evidence of fraud is mounting massively Ali Alexander.
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We know that the president is watching these broadcasts and so I want to say Mr. President,
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the Calvary is coming.
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So you got Calvary and cavalry coming.
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Oh man.
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It's exciting.
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Calvary.
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You're the guys who like the Bible.
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Figure it out.
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Maybe that's the problem though.
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They like it.
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They like it too much.
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Yeah.
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So you've seen Ali Alexander really coming into his own as a real like hardline zealot.
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Yeah.
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Real, real religious Christian zealot.
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So maybe he is actually saying Calvary.
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That could be.
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That could be.
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The Calvary is coming for you.
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We're going to put you up there.
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So if the election is to be believed by the, you know, all the sources that are reality,
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right.
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Then Biden won.
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Yes.
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And even if that's the case, Trump should still be president.
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I think that's great.
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Even if he'd won the election in which he hasn't, we have a right to not let him beat
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the president because they claimed Trump was this Russian agent with no proof.
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With Joe Biden, my God, Ali Alexander, we've got incredible evidence.
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We've got damning evidence.
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We've got him dead to rights.
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So I mean like why even do the election then based on what you're saying?
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Pretty much.
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Yeah.
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You're, you're saying that the person is disqualified.
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So like why wasn't your argument, I mean, why, why wasn't there like a position of fuck
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this election, we shouldn't even do it.
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Sure.
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Instead of let's do the election, the Democrats are going to try and steal it and Trump will
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win by a landslide.
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Yeah.
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I don't understand.
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I mean, they tried to sell that with the only way that it's a fair election is if Trump
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wins.
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So why do the election?
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Because if he doesn't win, it's an unfair election.
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But at the same time, the argument with that wasn't let's just not do the election.
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Yeah.
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Now, now it's like we shouldn't have done the election.
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We shouldn't even have done it.
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It doesn't matter if Biden wins.
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It turns out we could lose.
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I didn't expect that.
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Yeah.
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I think that's another thing that they're, they're not able to comprehend how stupid
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it makes them look.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So you're saying that Trump had no, like it's all fake evidence and none of it's real.
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They had no evidence for the Russia thing.
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Right.
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But we saw a lot of it.
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Yeah.
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And from varied sources all over the place.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So if that's manufactured, that's well manufactured.
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Quite.
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Currently Trump is proving that Biden stole the election.
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We have very little evidence.
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Well, we have Rudy Giuliani at a landscaping place.
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Right.
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See, so they're even admitting that they're bad, they're worse at faking evidence than
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the, than...
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Shut the fuck up.
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Dennis Montgomery.
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All right.
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And hold your horses.
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I'm sorry.
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Hold your horses.
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Google, Google data.
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Alex showed the Google data.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Come on.
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That's true.
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Get it together.
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I would, I would think that they could at least get one person like a, like a Michael
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Flynn or a Michael Cohen to like flip for him just for a little...
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Michael Flynn's lawyers pumping out the Dennis Montgomery stuff.
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Yeah.
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But from the other side, you know, they gotta get a, they gotta entrap someone and have
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them like turn rogue or whatever.
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So I think what they really want though, and I think that's something that we've been kind
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of aware of.
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Sure.
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Is for Trump to seize power and is to be a Christian theocracy.
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Yes.
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And Ali is a little bit too open about that.
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They're perverts and they're seeking to, you and I have talked about this, invert, invert
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all of these holy orders that we have, that Christianity stabilized this, this feral version
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of, of what Rome had, you know, after it burned and all this, Christianity injected into Western
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civilization, a stabilizing formula.
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And then Western civilization didn't work until we had it.
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Exactly.
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So the basis of what we call Western civilization now is Christianity because prior Western
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civilization didn't work.
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Oh, so whenever you talk about like Western civilization being what you're all about,
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you're actually just talking about like a, I don't know, a Christian religious state,
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a theocracy.
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Oh, okay.
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Cool.
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Just, I'm glad, I'm glad that we can have that in the clear now.
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It is, it is kind of, see, it is kind of obvious now.
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I mean, in the clear again.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's really their only option if they, if they can't even really lie about
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the election results, cause nobody's buying it, except for everybody that they like, then
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your only option is then just to out and out be like, well, in order to save the Republic,
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we have to become a Christian theocracy.
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Yeah.
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I think that that's sort of the, the underlying trend that you see from people like Ali, obviously,
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and a little bit on Info Wars, but actually the sense that I got from this Sunday episode
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was very much not that interested in the election fraud stuff anymore.
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Like he kind of, it's just like, ah, we proved it.
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And he has stuff like this that happened, but his focus seems to be elsewhere.
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Here's Biden two months ago saying, we've got the most people ever for election fraud.
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And then Pelosi, a week and a half ago saying, I don't care what happens with this thing
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coming up, he'll be inaugurated after, and they told us they do it with the ballots and
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they did it because if there's one thing criminals do, they love to brag.
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Only time they tell the truth is when they're telling you how they're effing you over here
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it is.
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Secondly, we're in a situation where we have put together and you guys did, did it for
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our administration, the president Obama's administration before this, we have put together,
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I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American
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politics.
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But we are ready.
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I feel very confident that Joe Biden will be elected president on Tuesday, whatever
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the end count is, but on the election that occurs on Tuesday, he will be elected on January
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20th.
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He will be inaugurated president of the United States.
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She's the one that goes to the salon, that's going bankrupt, doesn't wear a mask.
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It's caught not wearing, Oh, but for the TV, she wears it up there on the stage.
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I find that that like, uh, uh, sort of that second clip, uh, was useless.
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I don't think that that was, I didn't, I didn't hear anything in there that was even like
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suspicious.
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No, I think, I think he's just trying to pass off just confidence as my knowledge for knowledge.
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But I think that perhaps, but I think even he recognized that was so weak that he had
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to complain about the salon instead of anything that's in the club that is weak to you.
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Now the one of Biden sounds a little worse.
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And if you think that he was just speaking and then accidentally said that they put together
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a voter fraud organization, then you might reach the conclusion that Alex is presenting.
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However, that's not Biden misspeaking.
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It's a clip taken from an interview on pod save America from back in October.
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In reality, if the person who found that clip had allowed it to play in full, it would be
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painfully obvious that Biden was talking about organizing to stop and avoid instances of
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voter fraud.
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But honestly, that's not the best word that he could have used.
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What he was referring to is more of the broad spectrum of voter disenfranchisement.
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Immediately after the clip stops, Biden goes on to discuss the call-in line that had been
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set up to connect people with lawyers who can help if they have trouble voting or face
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intimidation at the polls.
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These are the sorts of specifics Alex has because it's about appearances, not reality.
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That clip sounds really bad, like Biden was accidentally admitting to setting up a voter
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fraud organization, but it only does if you only listen to that little snippet.
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So you know, you're creating this facade, this veneer, like, oh, we proved it.
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He admitted it in public, but he's doing that to sort of not talk about it that much.
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Because I don't think he wants to talk about it that much.
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He wants to talk about this goddamn caravan, because that's exciting.
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And then he also has an emergency message.
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All right, I'm going to issue an emergency message to President Trump coming up at the
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bottom of the hour.
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So we've got that message coming up, and I think that that's really where he wants this,
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he wants to put his focus.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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And we'll get to that in a minute, because his focus is never far from one person.
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One person in this world haunts Alex like a- Keith Olbermann?
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Like a weatch.
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Bill Maher.
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He's an indeed disgusting pus bucket that they're preparing to remove, and then Kamala
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Harris will probably bring Hillary Clinton in.
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What a time to be alive.
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Indeed, what a time to be alive.
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Still trying to fantasy book Hillary into this election.
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I just don't, I mean, if you want millions of people outside the White House, try and
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trick everyone into getting Hillary Clinton to become president now.
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Wouldn't you just be vice president then, and then Kamala Harris would then have to
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step down too?
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No, she would step down, they would trade jobs, you know, constitutional stuff.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So this is where I got, you know, I've already, I think, I think based on our behavior so
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far, you can already tell I'm super excited about this convoy.
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Yeah.
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Now here's where I got real excited.
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And then Owen Schroyer is coming in here live, he's live, and he's strong.
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And he's preparing to deploy on a four day trip to DC and lead a massive caravan where
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you can join it.
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And if you decide to join it, it will send a message to the globalist that they are in
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deep trouble.
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Everybody always wanted to march on DC.
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It's here.
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When the chips are down, what are you going to do now?
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Stay with us.
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So I felt challenged by that, when the chips are down, what are you going to do?
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Yeah.
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And I realized.
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We're going to join that caravan.
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No.
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We have to do an episode on Friday.
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Of course we do.
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We, this is, if there ever was an emergency episode necessary, we got to follow up on
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the caravan.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The caravan is the only thing I care about now.
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Yes.
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It's the only thing I, because you know what?
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I think that's going to be fun.
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Yeah.
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I think that's going to be fun for us.
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Yeah.
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I even think it's going to be fun for Owen and all the people in the caravan.
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You'd forgotten.
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It's going to be a good time.
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You'd temporarily forgotten about Assassin's Creed because this caravan is exciting.
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It's great.
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This is a fun thing.
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Yeah.
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I want to, now I kind of want to do a caravan.
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Yeah.
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You almost, like you can just envision in your head like sad moments of Owen with funny
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music behind it.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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God.
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It's just, it's great.
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So it's not going to be a normal regular thing.
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No.
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But caravan necessitates.
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We got to do an episode on Friday about the caravan.
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God damn it.
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We won't know if Alex has shown up in DC by the time that episode comes out.
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That's true.
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It'll have to be decided on Friday, but there'll be plenty of caravan nonsense to get into.
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I can't wait.
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I can't wait.
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Me too.
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God.
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It's just going to be a series of banana peels.
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I can't imagine it being anything else.
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So Alex teased that he has this emergency message coming up, and here he throws to it.
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Okay.
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The video is at VAN.video.
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It's at Infowars.com.
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Alex Jones' emergency message to President Trump, do not concede.
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There's over a million people conservatively on our streams, over a million listening on
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radio stations.
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That's 2 million people conservatively.
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I love you.
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I appreciate.
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You're amazing.
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I appreciate those that brought you here.
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If you decide to spread this video, the president will wake up and say, no, if you don't, we're
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doomed.
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Here is the report.
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I bet if you spread it, it still isn't going to, nah, it'll be fine.
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I don't know if Trump's going to see like, Ooh, a lot of shares on that Infowars video.
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I better wake up, better snap out of it.
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Oh man, that Infowars video has almost as many likes as that dumb tweet I just posted
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five seconds ago.
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I better change all of my things.
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Yeah, this is where I gotta go.
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Yeah.
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Now I felt cheated by this because the emergency message that he was teasing, I didn't realize
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it was a prerecorded video.
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He just did this so he can leave half an hour early.
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He just, oh, that sucks.
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He just leaves.
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That sucks.
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He just leaves?
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No, but you know, he has an emergency message to Trump, so we better find out what it is.
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Of course.
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President Trump, you were about to be approached by Joe Biden and his new COVID-19 commission.
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They're going to tell you that, sir, you're going to be blamed for the hundreds of thousands
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of deaths unless you sign onto a new lockdown, contact tracing, and even people being taken
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from their homes and forced inoculations.
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When you sign onto that, you will be confirming that COVID-19 was your fault and legitimizing
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the martial law take down of this country and the complete shutdown of our economy.
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This will be the end of the Republic and you, sir, will be known as Benedict Arnold who
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allowed it all to happen.
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Trump you are going to be approached by Biden's team.
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Trump, they are behind you right now.
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Trump, at midnight you will be visited by 13 ghosts.
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The fourth will give you an envelope, it has the location.
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Come on, man.
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What are we doing?
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All right.
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So this is kind of what I think Alex wants to turn this into as opposed to worrying too
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much about like, ah, voter fraud or whatever, which feels just dead.
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It feels deflated even on Alex's show.
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What he wants to talk about is during the 79 days of hell, right, Biden and his transition
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team are going to have some ideas about better ways to address the COVID-19 situation.
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So what the real conspiracy is, is they're going to make like a fucking demand of Trump
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that he get on board with their plan, their globalist plan.
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And if he doesn't, then they're going to blame the deaths on him.
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But if he does, then they're going to blame the damage to the economy that their evil
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plans do.
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They're going to blame that on Trump.
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He has no win situation except to come out and say, go fuck yourselves globalists.
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But then even if they do that, they're going to try and use the 25th amendment to take
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him out of office.
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Sure.
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It's really much more exciting than Rudy Giuliani's press conference and the very, very boring
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voter fraud claims that Dennis Montgomery is peddling.
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I just, you'd think that that press conference should take an entire party down.
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That's how sad that was.
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I wanted to laugh at it because it's maybe objectively the funniest thing I've ever heard.
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Yeah.
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And it's confusingly funny.
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Everything about it.
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What I thought about it is everybody who is like, oh, comedy is going to be good under
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the Trump administration.
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And I'm like, every single thing I've seen of people trying to dunk on this is not as
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funny and never will be as it's mere existence.
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Like you're never going to win.
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There's no point in trying comedy over Rudy Giuliani standing next to a porn shop with
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a fucking pedophile right next to him.
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It just doesn't get better than that.
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There's no joke that is better than that.
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And it's a landscaping place also called Four Seasons.
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He himself is an implied pedophile after the 15 year old girl thing.
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Like this whole thing is off the rails.
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What joke do I have?
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None.
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None.
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Yeah.
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So Alex's message to Trump is largely like, you got to talk more shit, man.
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It's so essential for you now to not concede the election, but to come out with your bully
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pulpit of the oval office and lay out the Newsweek articles and the new scientist articles
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and all the documents that Fauci and Gates under Obama's command before you ever got
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into office in 2013, 14 and 15 were running the very exact COVID-19 weaponized virus test.
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Trump, you got to use our talking points.
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You've got to get in the oval office and say info wars shit.
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That'll really help me out.
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Now what's really funny is if you watch the video of this, while Alex is talking, those
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articles flash up on screen and one of them is that article from the scientist.
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Oh no.
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And right under the headline is an editor's note about how there are conspiracy theories
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connecting this article to COVID-19 and the coronavirus and this is all unsubstantiated.
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So even as Alex is trying to show this evidence, there's a, this doesn't work.
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He's accidentally fact checking himself?
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So they're going to try and remove Trump early is the thing.
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That's what this emergency message is all about.
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Sir, I want you and your advisors to know what they're planning to do to drive you from
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office before January 20th and how they're planning to then blame you for COVID-19 that's
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been their plan all along.
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If they're able to trick you, then your legacy and all your supporters will be irrevocably
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connected to the COVID-19 deaths and the American people will be persecuted and Americanism
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itself will be demonized connected to the Wuhan virus, which is a Chinese communist
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bio weapon.
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Ooh.
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I would say that history is not going to be super kind to Trump's fans period about their
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response to probably not going to go well.
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I don't think that's dependent on Trump leaving early or staying until January or being tricked
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by imaginary globalists.
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I think we're just going to look back and be like, huh, it's not weird how poor responding
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poorly to a public health crisis seemed to be a policy plank.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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Doesn't seem like a good idea.
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That's very strange.
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Uh, my new policy is murder.
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It's very weird.
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The end.
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So anyway, uh, they're going to try and use that 25th amendment to get Trump out.
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They will demand that you who is still president elected under the constitution, implement
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these plans.
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If you do not immediately agree, they're going to say the 260 plus thousand most of the deaths,
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as you know, from something else are on your watch and are on your head and that you are
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guilty of this under the 25th amendment and are not fit to be the president of the United
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States.
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I want to further discredit you, not just with this fraudulent election, but to certify
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that fraudulent election by having your own cabinet remove you under the 25th amendment
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because you don't follow the recommendations and orders of Joe Biden's new globalist COVID-19
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task force.
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I mean, what's the point?
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I don't, I don't understand why.
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I think what's funny about this is that he's okay in, in his world, all right, we live
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in a, they, this is what they would do.
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So we do it, but they would do what our plans are that we're doing right now.
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Right?
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So I think Alex is actually saying that one, he knows all of this stuff is true.
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This is all Trump's fault.
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And that the only way, the best way for us to go about this is to use the 25th amendment
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to remove him from office, to do all of this stuff early.
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Like he's saying that the best plan is doing all that stuff, exactly.
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He's telling us what he would do in our situation, right?
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But that's not always still even the best thing to do.
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It's not a good plan, but it is funny every time he does this because he's like, here
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is what I would do.
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And that's what they're trying to do already.
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Yeah.
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I hear it more like, yeah, it's going to look real bad if competent leadership comes in
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and people are like, oh, this is what we've been missing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's going to look real bad.
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It's gonna, it's gonna take a whole lot of the like, oh, the deep state, all these weird,
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weird things that have been going on over the past couple of years, these weird excuses
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are all just going to look kind of dumb.
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And I think Alex recognizes that and, you know, you got to distract people.
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The only way to do that is to create something fun in that 79 days of hell.
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They're going to try and get rid of Trump before Trump has to leave anyway.
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I mean, the thing that scares me is there's only two ways for Trump to go.
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And that is to step down early and have Pence write the most broad pardon in the history
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of the United States that somehow also supersedes any and all state crimes that Trump has committed.
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Or not leave because anything other than those two and he's going to jail.
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So I think he knows that.
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First of all, innocent.
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And he's not going to jail.
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Innocent until proven guilty.
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Sure.
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First of all.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Second, I don't, I don't know.
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I don't know if that's the case, but I could easily see some kind of a brokered immunity.
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I mean, I don't know.
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There's no, there's just nothing to say.
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If he leaves office, he's going to lose all of his money.
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Like it's going to be a bloodbath for him personally because he's bad at everything.
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And I think what's going to save us is he's too incompetent to do either of the only two
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things that he can do.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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That's my suspicion.
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I think we'll see.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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That's my suspicion.
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But Alex is presenting Trump with this position where like, if you're going to be approached
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by a man in a trench coat, then he is going to tell you Biden's secret plan.
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And should you say no to this plan, they will blame you for all deaths.
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However, if you say yes to it, here is what you got to do.
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Or here's what's going to happen.
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If you follow the lockdown, they will put your name on the coming depression in the
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United States and blame you for all the previous deaths, saying later, you actually admitted
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that you were the one behind it all.
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Again.
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You did.
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We have tapes.
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Don't sign onto it.
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You've got to come out and expose Fauci, Bill Gates, Joe Biden, and all of them in Oval
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Office addresses.
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And that is the only path to stop them.
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So this is the 20% he was talking about earlier, I think.
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Is Trump giving Oval Office addresses where he spouts Infowars conspiracies?
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Yep.
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Alright.
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I guess I think 20% is a embarrassingly high chance to give that of success.
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Sure.
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I think as far as Alex goes, this is a great swing.
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This is a great swing.
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It's as good as he can do.
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Because Trump has nothing left to lose.
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And this would be great for Alex's business.
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So why not see if Trump will do some shit for him now?
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I think even Alex has to recognize that that's, I think, a fruitless strategy.
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Probably.
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But I do think that this is better for Alex than getting too hung up on the election stuff.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And also getting too hung up on fucking, like, even addressing Steve's nonsense.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, it's a better game to play that, like, oh, the COVID, it's really about.
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Because then that kind of has a stage removed from the, like, strict electoral stuff and
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the parties.
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You can still, like, claim that there's something outside of politics, that this is about the
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globalist's evil plan.
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You know, and I think that that is good for him.
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So I think that that's why he's focusing on this.
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And this message to the president, supposedly, is not about fight in Michigan, fight in Pennsylvania.
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You know, get there, count the ballots, make sure all of it, you know, like, get Steve
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Pachanik on the phone.
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He said it's a sting operation or whatever.
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You know, like, he's not doing that, because, sure, that should live in the background,
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but it's proven already.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's proven already.
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We can move on.
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We have to.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We have to.
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Because there's more pressing information.
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Exactly.
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And that is that Biden's COVID response team is really a Trojan horse to get Trump out
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with the 25th Amendment or, you know, that's that's pretty good on his part in terms of
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spin and the way he's playing things.
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Let Knight handle Steve Pachanik, get Owen out of the studio for a while.
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Let me try and fucking thread whatever needle that I need to, to try and keep us in business
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after next week.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's about as good as you can get.
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And it's a better strategy than I would have expected.
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Giant publicity stunt out of this caravan.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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No, this is a far better plan than I ever would have expected from them.
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I don't even know if it's a plan.
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I wonder if it's just kind of like, all right, what can we do?
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All right.
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This could work.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if it's some grand machination on their part or anything, but I think it
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fulfills a number of the requirements that get around some of the problems they have.
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It's still not a good play because it's still like, I mean, what happens when the 25th Amendment
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isn't invoked?
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What happens when these votes are certified and Biden is?
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They do need to have the transition teams take over.
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What happens in January?
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These are only little band-aids you can put on this.
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There's still a much larger problem that isn't being addressed by it.
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But in terms of being like Alex Jones, where you got to keep moving, the shark of lies,
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piranha of truth, shark of lies.
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In terms of being that guy, it's as good as you can do right now.
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And I agree.
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they half-assed their way into an accidental, competent move.
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I don't know if it's, again, I don't know if it's competent.
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Competent, we grate on a curve.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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We grate on a curve.
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I have to keep reminding myself.
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I would have expected him to be eating parts of his desk by now.
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That's the curve I'm dealing with.
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Yeah.
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I make my desk out of survival foods.
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Exactly.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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On this desk, it looks like it's made of glass.
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It's actually sugar.
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You need calories.
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On my last episode, I fall into the desk from 20 feet above.
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Giving Owen an elbow drop.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So on this next clip, Alex is talking, I mean, like, is it?
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It's just background dressing that Trump won the election and it was stolen.
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Sure.
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President Trump, the mainstream media has choreographed all of this.
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They have fraudulently blamed you for COVID-19.
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The American people do not believe it.
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They know the truth.
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They elect you overwhelmingly and so this new fifth coup of election fraud is designed
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to take you out.
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If you comply, if you quote, take the olive branch of the neo cons and Mitt Romney and
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George W. Bush and say, okay, I'll follow the recommendations of president elect Joe
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Biden to lock things down, to wear the mask, to take inoculations and for contact tracers,
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they will then turn around later and admit that you were repudiated and the deaths were
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your fault and legitimize the persecution of your supporters.
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So basically Alex is just being like, for our sake, please seize power.
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Yeah.
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But also the thing I find most interesting about that is that Alex calls Biden president
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elect.
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Yeah, I know.
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I feel like he would be more petty than that.
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They all know.
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I feel like he would be, that's really weird.
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They all know.
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That's really strange.
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I feel like you can do a second take.
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I know he's a one take guy.
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There are cuts in here.
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Oh, there are?
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Oh yeah.
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Oh my God.
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You mispronounced a word fraudulent a couple of times.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not great.
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Yeah.
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But even in this message, uh, that is, you know, like I said, there's, there's some editing.
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There's some effort that went into this and it's supposed to be like a message directly
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to Trump.
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There's an elephant in the room that Alex can't even ignore in this message.
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And that is the Trump is not being a leader.
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We are waiting for leadership.
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We need the address from the oval office.
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We need you to reconfirm in the face of Fox news and the other sellout traders that you
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are never going to concede to fraud and sell out the election system in this country.
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We know you're our champion and we stand behind you.
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So even that is kind of like a call out a little bit, man.
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I feel so like Joe Rogan and Alex, like so many of these people are sitting here being
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like, where's Q, where's Trump?
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Where's all this stuff?
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And it's like, guys, they weren't your friends.
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Yeah.
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They've been using you.
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Yeah.
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I'm the fool here.
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I know you can't admit it, but that's what you got to get.
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You just brought up Joe Rogan, so I need to say two things real quick.
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Someone sent me a message about Tim Dillon on Joe Rogan's show and they pointed out to
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me that Tim Dillon is a sober person, like, or I don't know if like recovery or whatever,
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or if he's just straight edge or whatever, so he doesn't drink or smoke.
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We were saying that he was high and it was because he had kept saying he was high, but
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I realized that what he was probably saying is he's high, like because he's around Alex
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or something high on the excitement and I misspoke and I apologize about that.
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I didn't mean to imply Tim was high when he wasn't.
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I don't know anything about him.
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No, neither do I, and that's why I made that mistake.
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Easy to make.
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Second.
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I'm glad he's an asshole without PEDs.
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Second.
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I think I had this fantasy that Rogan, like, you know, he's like, I just rationalize having
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Alex on my show.
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Sure.
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I was thinking about how fun it would be if he's like forced to have Alex's friends on
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the show.
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It's like, yeah, all right.
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Okay.
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You want Alex on there?
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You got to bring a Pechenek on there.
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Steve Pechenek is going to come fuck with you for a little while.
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If you want to say that this guy's sources and shit are backed up and we've got a fact
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checker right there, let's bring Dr. Pechenek right next to you and see how that goes.
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Next episode, Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers is here.
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Let's fucking dance that dance, Joe.
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You want to do this, do it.
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Next time, Vox Day is coming in.
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And now...
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Nick Fuentes.
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Florida Congresswoman-elect Laura Loomer is coming up on that.
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I don't think it's outside the possibility that Loomer has been on Rogan.
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That doesn't...
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I don't think she has.
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I don't think so either.
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Yeah, I just had that fantasy.
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That seemed pretty fun.
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That would be very fun.
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Forcing Rogan to have Alex's friends on.
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Come on.
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If you want to have Alex back again, sit down with these ding-dongs.
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Wrestle with that bullshit.
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John Rappaport coming on the Rogan Experience.
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Is that Batman appearing from the bushes?
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So anyway, Alex brings up a headline in his address to Trump.
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This is one of his current talking points.
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And now, President Trump, we have the head of the UK military, their Secretary of Defense,
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their chairman of their Joint Chiefs, of their defense staff, General Sir Nick Carter, coming
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out and saying this lockdown could trigger World War III and there's an extreme danger
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of it and that another lockdown is not needed.
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So this is a headline of an article that Alex didn't read about an interview with General
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Sir Nick Carter on Sky News, where he discussed how the continuing COVID-19 situation and
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some of the economic ramifications of it around the world has the potential to exacerbate
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regional conflicts that already exist.
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Many people don't feel like regional conflicts are too relevant to their lives, but Carter
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was trying to point out that, quote, rhythms of history showed that localized tensions
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can easily ratchet up and drag nations to war.
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What he was saying is that regional conflict can often escalate when it's miscalculated
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and ignored.
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He said, quote, if you look back at the last century, before both world wars, I think it
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was inarguable that there was escalation which led to the miscalculation, which ultimately
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led to war at a scale we hopefully never see again.
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His comments weren't meant to imply that dealing with COVID-19 could cause a third world war,
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and he never said that measures that Alex would exaggerate into calling lockdowns are
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unnecessary.
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That's Alex's imagination about what an article he hasn't read says based on his impression
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of the headline.
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The interview is given to celebrate Remembrance Sunday, a UK day of commemoration for the
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service persons of their country who participated in the two world wars.
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Given this context, the General's comments and the interview made a lot more sense, but
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it's exactly this context that Alex makes it his job to deprive his audience of.
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It's bad enough when the intended audience is some listener who might buy dumb pills,
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but it's another thing when he's imagining that he's conning the president with this
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bullshit.
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It makes total sense.
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This is a Remembrance Sunday interview about these world wars and the concern that regional
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conflicts can grow and engulf other people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, World War One was a rich guy got killed and then a bunch of cousins
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fought each other, you know?
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So we have one last clip here, Jordan.
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And this is such a metaphor.
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This is a audio metaphor for Alex Jones's dumb, dumb message to Trump.
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Mike down for this because I want you to experience this in its fullness.
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We're still on air at mfullwars.com forward slash show and band.video and we're going
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to be making major announcements later this evening about massive caravans from all corners
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of the United States, descending on Washington, D.C. in the next few days, led by mfullwars.com
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and more action we're about to take.
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Mr. President, we don't just have your back.
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Attention business owners, body slammed by overwhelming debt.
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Just just amazing.
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Just I can't even I can't say enough about that.
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This is a commercial for Four Seasons Land, it would be amazing.
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Oh, God, that would have been beautiful.
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This is a video that Alex prerecorded so he could leave work early so he could give a
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message of desperation to the president.
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And it, first of all, ends with a plug for infowars.com forward slash show.
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Of course.
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He's plugging that in his message directly to the president.
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Well, I mean, if Joe Arpaio is going to plug his book in a message to me.
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What a dick.
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What a dick.
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But that does imply like, OK, the message to Trump part is kind of part of the performance.
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Sure.
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I think it's painfully obvious.
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And then it's just hilarious that they mistimed it and he got cut off by the break.
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You know how long it is.
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You do.
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You do.
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To the second.
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Yes.
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It is recorded already.
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There's numbers on there.
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You can see it.
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Three zero colon zero one.
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Yep.
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Don't run it till twenty eight fifty.
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There's no reason that you need to be getting cut off by the break and your important message
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to the president.
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It's just not possible.
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It's a recognition that this is performance art for the audience.
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And then second, it's also an admission that, like, it's not as important as commercials.
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None of this actually means anything.
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We don't really care about getting the whole message in.
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It's kind of just the fact that we did it.
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We like.
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And hey, Trump, get excited.
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These Carol fans are coming.
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Great thing to say.
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We've got your back.
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Are you having the overwhelming debt?
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Just so good, because it's in the statement of we've got your back and then you literally
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disappear.
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It's just perfect.
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Yeah, imagine if you're Trump listening to it, he's like, what else?
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Not only do I have your back, what else?
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It's an important message.
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Pills.
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I've got pills.
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I got your back and I got pills.
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So we come to the end of this and I ought to say, you know, rare need for a Friday episode,
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but this caravan demands it.
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I'm excited to follow the adventures of Owen Schroyer across these United States.
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I'm excited to see what kind of goofs happen.
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I wish I was there desperately.
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This caravan has breathed new life into me.
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This is very exciting.
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And I just, whoever they hire, I know they've got somebody with cameras, you gotta give
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us the raw footage.
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It should be 24-7 filming.
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This should be a fucking David Attenborough documentary.
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Like that's what we're dealing with here.
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There should be, the bus or whatever they're using to go down there should be like hardwired
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video audio at all times.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Werner Herzog is there.
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Werner Herzog has to be there.
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Yeah.
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The potential for this just to be an amazing story that might never get told, it's too
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high.
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It's too high.
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I know.
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I know.
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Oh, dude.
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Well, we'll do our best.
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Yes, we got this.
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And we'll see you then.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, or also on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge
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We are Facebook.
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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people
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doing God's work.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Darryl Arundus.
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I think it's totally fine if you watch Dancing with the Stars.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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