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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones
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Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan
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What was the last time you had a cigarette Dan? Um, I guess I had some maybe like a month ago or so
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Yeah, vape life, baby. Oh, yeah, that's right. We shared one about a month ago. Yeah. Yeah, but otherwise
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Unsatisfying or it wasn't it wasn't those unsatisfying it was like I I've successfully transitioned over to a vape. Yeah, and
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The ideas of like Oh cigarette will be so much better. They're really not so, I don't know
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It's just an illusion of a bygone past it is it is strange. I don't miss it either
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It's been it's been almost two months since I quit like the the regular smoking life
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And I I just don't miss it. Well, it's weird. How about you? You you just don't care
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Not really not really every now and again. I do
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Feel like yeah, I should have a cigarette but I don't really I don't it goes away really fast
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Yeah, I don't know hashtag vape life vape life apparently
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I'll tell we do it
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So this podcast where neither of us really smoke cigarettes much and we talk about Alex Jones because I know a lot about him
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And I only know what you tell me that's correct Jordan today got an interesting episode to go over
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So Jordan today, we've got an episode to go over and I'm not gonna tell you what time frame it's from
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Okay, because what I'm going to do instead is I'm going to play you a clip and you try and tell me okay
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When this is from are we doing this the whole time?
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No, just this just this first and then I will reveal to you what time frame we're talking about
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But I wanted to play this clip and see if you could use context clues to figure out what era Alex Jones
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This episode is from okay. So are we going are we doing a poignant thing where it's like this?
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This is something Alex could be saying ten years ago, or is this just out of the we're trying to ruin the game
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Okay, fine
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You're just trying to get fucking a way to cheat at the game
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Now pay close attention because there are some subtle clues and some not so subtle clues, okay, and it's all getting you ready
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Why are they getting you ready for trips on the streets and and TSA checkpoints?
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I mean down the street from me on the on the road searching people
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Illegally violation of the fourth of the amendment 10th amendment 9th amendment. Why are they doing this?
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Ladies and gentlemen because they're criminals they're collapsing the whole
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Society and they know they're all going to jail if they don't totally take over and arrest their opposition
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They've stolen tens of trillions the derivatives the people running things make Ken lay look like a choir boy an angel. So
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You got you got the the globalists need to take power and jail their opponents
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Yeah, which is very in line with the ideas of the present day. It's very Q Anani, right?
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I don't know. What do you think? I
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What is Ken Lay doing in there? Well Ken Lay is a famous
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Archetype of globalists, right? I mean, it's been a while right true, but I'm gonna go with
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2011 or 2013. Well, this is January 24th through 28th 2013. We'll be going over. We're continuing our
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Investigation 2013. Yeah, but you wanted a hint
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I'm gonna hedge so the reason that I I did that game that didn't go at all how I hoped it would but the reason
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I did was that
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Content of what he's saying is almost identical to things he's expressing at the present
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Yeah
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The narrative never changes the idea that the globalists are going to go to jail unless they immediately do something
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Mm-hmm is always there. It's consistently there in 2013. We see it in the present
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Although I thought for sure you'd be able to tell like oh, I guess you did and saying 2011 or 2013
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You could tell it wasn't present day. Yeah, cuz his vocal patterns are so fucking. Oh, yeah
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Oh, yeah, just not even close just the idea of trying to imagine that that was in the present is ludicrous
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No chance. No now that was even just because of the Ken Lay reference like the just the way he's
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organizing his thoughts the way he's speaking the mannerisms the delivery the
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Slurring well or absence thereof. It was the guess was it like when you heard it, obviously it was in the past
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So it was either 2013 or I thought it might be a time travel episode and you were like gonna be like hey
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No, it's actually from 2009
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Questions I get where you're coming from, but I don't like to I don't like to play like hey, is it a or B?
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Haha, fuck you. It's see I see I've been burned too many times dad. Yeah, so today like I said
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We're going over the 24th to the 28th
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It's a wide span of time because some of it was a slog and you need to find things to talk about
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Sometimes that means you get a listen to whole episodes that suck
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Oh boy, no fun here is an out-of-context drop from this span of time
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We'll be covering on today's show
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My broadcast is almost a college for people who want to go out and do bad things and be evil
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I don't know what let me be let me be clear about this that
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Context doesn't help that close. So he's just literally saying that we're listen to me and do bad things
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I don't know what he was trying to express there because he does
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From where I'm sitting that feels about right
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I accurate self-reflection. Yeah, it's not accredited. Yeah. No
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So in this first clip, we're gonna start here on January 24th
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And Alex starts things off on what I can only describe as a kind of racist note
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I mean it is nothing but them playing us off like two different Indian tribes two different Native American tribes
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Early on that the natives outnumbered settlers at some some points a hundred thousand to one, you know
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There's like 15 settlers and you know estimated however many natives on the continent
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But they're in the center of a hundred hours ten to one twenty one thirty one
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But it wasn't even this the superiority of arms as there were the French and others
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Constantly always selling armaments to the who were very proficient by them there for a little it like
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It was that the natives could always were always fighting with each other
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And well, they live across that River. They all look the same act of the same at the basically same culture
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But it didn't matter because the British intelligence and others could come in and manipulate them off against each other and the French tried
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It is called the great game. We can do it the best the Spanish tried it. They weren't as good
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So they took over the world British for the best of that so they took over the world
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I mean there is kind of a
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Little element of that that is like haha gullible natives. No, I fun fun way to look back on our history
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I really I really I really don't think he should be allowed to talk about history period because anytime it or maybe he should talk
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About it more because anytime he tells us about what he thinks history was it is a fantastical ridiculous
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like
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Twisting of certain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's ridiculous
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Yeah
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So that came in the context of Alex beginning this episode and what I would describe as a protracted rant about how he can't stand
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The people are calling him and his friends racist because they won't turn in their guns
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He has this conception. That's like I don't want to turn to my guns. Oh, well, you're a racist then
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Hold on. Let me tell you more about American history where all Native American tribes look the same and basically had the same
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But you could still trick them into fighting each other. How dare you call me racist exactly
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I don't believe that anyone is actually making the accusation that Alex is a racist because he won't turn in his gun
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It seems like a classic straw man, but he likes to play
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Yeah, on the other hand Alex is a huge racist completely independent of his unwillingness to turn in his gun
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So I get that someone might be accusing him of that and he's just misunderstanding what they're saying. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, I think that that clip that we just listened to
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Can really be a full demonstration of Alex being a huge monstrous racist. Yeah, it doesn't get much more
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the way he discusses Native American tribes in that clip clearly illustrates how
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Much of a bigot he is and how bigotry informs his worldview
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The context of that clip is that he's been trying to say that the globalists are trying to trick us into fighting with each other
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He's side loves their guns
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But the left has been tricked into thinking that him and his friends are racist because the globalists want to demonize them to make
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It easier to take their guns
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Thus the globalists are trying to play Alex and the left against each other quote like two Native American tribes
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the first problem that jumps out is that Alex is trying to present the plight of the Native American tribes in early American history as
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Being the result of them being gullible and stupid
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There are so many
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More of them than the whites
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But they were so easy to dupe into fighting with each other that the crafty whites were able to get the upper hand or they
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Were nice and the whites were evil
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Nationalist lunatics the second problem where his real bigotry is on full display is when he says of the tribes quote
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They all look the same acted the same had the same culture. See there you go. That one was troublesome
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Yeah, that's a huge problem. That's a big problem
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This is absolutely nowhere near true
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But it's true to Alex because he gets most of his information about Native Americans from f-trooper reruns
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When Christopher Columbus arrived thinking he'd reach the Indies he called the people he encountered Indians to quote Herman Viola
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Curator of the Smithsonian Institution a National Museum of Natural History
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quote a fundamental mistake that persists to this day is to speak about quote than
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The American Indians as if they were one people despite their small numbers the Indian peoples of North America
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Or as dissimilar from each other as they were the peoples of Europe in terms of languages clothes
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Lifestyles militancy and religion the tribes in different parts of North America had differed greatly from each other
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Native American tribes only appeared to look similar act similar and have the same culture if you don't pay attention to them and not
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And see them not as people but as things it's one thing for someone to say that in the late
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1700s but man it is a real sign of severe bigotry in the mind for someone to express that in 2013, right?
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It's fucked up. Okay. I mean and it's different forms of government
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It's too obvious. Look if France and fucking Spain are the distance or like the size of
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Indiana and Illinois right back to back and they have completely different languages
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Why would you imagine that Native Americans in the a vast expanse geographically larger than Europe would be one
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Monoculture. Yeah, it's they don't even like Leno. It's a it's a dismissal. It's just it's a historical dismissal and a
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You guys yeah, they're brown. Yeah done which they weren't smart enough to develop individualistic societies together
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I guess yeah, which is classic classic Alex Jones and classic bigotry which come together like peanut butter and chocolate
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Oh, yeah
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So in this next clip Alex is talking more about Piers Morgan and how great a time he had on the show and how?
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It's been awesome for him
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I'm getting tired. I'm getting real I'm getting real tired of him bragging about being on Piers Morgan
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Yeah, it's kind of like that comic, you know who gets a big gig and talks about it for five years
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Yeah, that's kind of the feeling I'm getting with Alex
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Like he's he's insulting Piers Morgan and talking about how stupid and shitty and a globalist he is
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But at the same time won't stop fucking talking about being on his show. It's very insane
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Dude, the JFL audition process is such bullshit since I got in the new faces five years ago
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I just you know, they won't allow me to do it. I had a great time and I love
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Anyway is a sex clip Alex talks about Piers Morgan and how it was the biggest thing of the last year
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That that blow-up on air was aired on every major English station in the world that I know of
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It's one of the biggest media events not just of this year, but last year and it's been rated as such
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And such and I I didn't really do all that on purpose
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I just said God, you know, whatever you want me to do have me do it. That's what happened
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Every part of that was me on all these other shows
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They could have me on MSNBC and get double ratings for the week
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They could have me on all these of all rage and increase their ratings. They know that I mean I've talked to
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Executives of these companies over and over again over the years all we really want you
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We're trying to get you but there's no way that you know, the execs are gonna kill it and I'm like, that's fine
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I don't want to be on there. Stop calling me. I would imagine that someone being polite trying to end the conversation
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Oh, we're trying to have you on. Yeah. Yeah, and these places don't want to have Alex on not because they don't want the ratings
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So they're afraid of him. It's a cheap pop, you know, it's a it's a cheap way to get attention on you
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But you demean the quality of what you're doing and the content Piers Morgan doesn't have that concern
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No, cuz he's Piers fucking Morgan an asshole and everybody is like man. You're an idiot. Yeah, it's like it's stunt booking
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Yeah, that kind of thing like what Rogan does. Yeah
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I'll have Alex Jones on
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A lot of fucking views. Yep, but at the same time justifies everything doesn't it?
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Yeah, so you really got I start to get the sense of the way Alex's mind works in that last clip which
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With how much he needs to insist that him being a little gun, baby
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I'm Piers Morgan show was a gigantic media event in quotes even his own telling of it here
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He didn't accomplish anything Piers Morgan is still an asshole
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His precious guns are still in peril of being grabbed by Dianne Feinstein
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Discourse hasn't been advanced and we've gotten nowhere the way Alex is phrasing. This is correct
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And it's so weird that he knows it. That was a media event and that geared only at generating publicity a PR stunt
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That's all that was. Yeah, and he knows it
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I
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decided to think back on 2012 in January 2013 to see if Alex's claim stood up to scrutiny that his appearance on Piers Morgan was
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one of the biggest media events of that time period and has been rated as
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Double ratings for all of the networks that decided to air it
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I'm going to consider all media coverage to be relevant to my calculations. So I'm not just considering overtly manufactured
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Manufactured media events, although there may be some in this list
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Here are some of the things that happened in 2012 that people certainly remember way more than Alex yelling at Piers Morgan
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Cern discovered the Higgs boson particle boring the 2012 Summer Olympic Games in London
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Don't even remember Putin became president of Russia again after years as prime minister
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The murder of Trayvon Martin the curiosity rover landed on Mars the whole Mayan apocalypse thing Barack Obama got re-elected
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So there was that whole 2012 election in the primary season that dude Felix
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Baumgartner live-streamed jumping out of space from that Red Bull balloon becoming the first man to break the sound barrier without a vehicle
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Remember I watched the shit out of that Madison Baumgartner won the World Series. I don't know if that was 2012
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It was even your magic baby. Okay, 2010 2012
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Yep, grumpy cat made its media debut. Ooh
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Poor one out. All right, baby
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And of course we saw that year saw the deaths of Whitney Houston Andrew Breitbart
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Dick Clark MCA of the Beastie Boys Rodney King Ernest Borgnine Neil Armstrong and Michael Clark Duncan
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Oh, and of course, there was the fucking Aurora and Sandy Hook shootings
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Like what are you doing? I'm not I don't mean to judge at all here
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Borgnine made the list. He's a big big star
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There were probably other choices I could have made a list of celebrity deaths but Borgnine's up there
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I like Borgnine, no he's great. Relevant. He's great in everything
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I still think his dad probably got more media coverage than Alex being on Piers Morgan. Probably. It's insane that he thinks that like
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We is the biggest fucking thing
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There was an election. Yeah. Yeah, that alone. Yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty big one
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Yeah, it's a pretty big election fucking
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Conceited narcissistic asshole thinking that like we're the me. I yelled at Piers Morgan and it changed the world
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I did the fuck the effects are rattling throughout history today. Mm-hmm
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So in this next clip Alex is mad because Diane Feinstein may or may not have mentioned
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Christianity in talking about gun control bills and Alex doesn't like that and then he says something
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Painfully tragic considering what we know from where his career goes
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And and and and speaking for Christians, even if she was a Christian you do not speak for me lady
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And I think it's just outrageous that people think it's okay to walk on Christians
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Can you imagine if I got up here and spoke for Islam when I'm not a Muslim or a?
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follower of
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The Prophet Muhammad. Yes, I can imagine imagine what would happen
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Can you imagine if I got up here and if I spoke for Jewish groups? Yeah, I spoke for atheist groups
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Well as a theist I believe in God
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And as a Christian, I believe in turning your guns in and when I'm not a Christian
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I mean it is over the top
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I mean that a condescending impression that he did at the end there is like I'm an atheist
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And I believe in God like
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Literally so much of his show now is screaming about how atheists secretly worship the devil. Yeah, so
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Alex you are doing exactly what you're mocking every every bit of it
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Yeah, you are always speaking for Islam saying that they want to do all this. You're always speaking for Judy
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Even this story where you're like, hey
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Even if she is a Christian you don't speak for me lady
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You speak for all Christians all the time speak for everybody everybody you might as well be the fucking lorax. You're speaking for the trees
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Guy
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I think that you nailed it in the middle of that clip which is the real tragic thing is like it's funny to look back
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At this and he'd be like wouldn't that be just so awful of me to do that
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Yeah, like she's doing now, but he's like what can you imagine what people do like not much? Yeah
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I mean, I guess that's not like technically why he's kicked off all these social media platforms
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He could he could probably imagine that that that's the consequence of that, but I don't think you'd ever even even try
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Ultimately, it's nothing nothing. You get no consequences Alex. Yeah, except for if you agitate long enough
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You'll go on Joe Rogan again, right? That's pretty much it. Yeah, you throw a fit people reward you. Yeah, so Jordan. Yes, this next clip
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Is a commercial for Piers Morgan?
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That would be a bold move
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GCN's new sponsor
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It's not that but this I'm gonna ask you to put your mic down cuz I think you're gonna end up laughing and screaming during
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This commercial okay, because it's absurd. Okay, it's it
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Hey there Frank Bates here
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Have you heard about the weird device that could wipe out two hundred and eighty million Americans?
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This is really scary stuff
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Defense experts warn that this odd device poses the greatest threat we've ever known
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In fact, just a few weeks ago former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich wrote an op-ed piece for the Washington Post
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Warning about this deadly threat. I can't believe that more people aren't talking about this
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It may be because the liberals and the government are trying to cover it up
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That's why my friend just created a free video at weird device calm
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It exposes this threat and blows the doors off the conspiracy
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Go watch the shocking video at weird device calm right now to discover exactly what it is
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Plus discover the number one way you and your family can survive this deadly attack
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I'm not sure how long this video be online. So go to weird device calm before it's gone forever again
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That's weird device calm weird device calm
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Level sponsorship coming in from weird device calm
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I want I want Sam Elliott to redo that audio because that is fucking dynamite. Hope it was Frank Bates
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So when your first thoughts about the weird device, um, well very specific in the commercial
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It is the first thing I thought is a banner ad where it's like try this one weird trick to make your device go away
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Or whatever it is. Yeah, like that kind of thing and then 280 million is really specific. It is it's a lot
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It's very specific though. That's a that's like what eight percent of the population something like that
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80 8 it's 8% of the population 280 million Oh 280 million
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He said 280 million didn't he? I think he did shit. I thought he was saying to a 28 million. I just discounted
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Any number is so I want to start this with bad news
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Yeah, that is that weird device calm is no longer a functioning website
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And the snapshots in the wayback machine are just pages with videos that are no longer available
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So we may never know exactly what the weird device is. Wait, so they did take the video down
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I I don't I mean, I think whoever's running it. I think this is real now. No, it's not
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Um, I think it might have been something about EMP fears
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That's my guess because I think it's probably some sort of a threat to the power grid. Sure
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that's that makes the most if it's 280 million people then you assume that the only people who
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Wouldn't be affected by knocking out of the power grid by an EMP would be people who live deep in the woods
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Yeah, and maybe that's the rest of the population who probably aren't listening to that broadcast
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Yeah, another possibility is that I found another product that this company sells that is referred to as a weird device
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But I don't think it's the same one because it's just a solar-powered kettle. Oh, that's nice. It's very weird
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There's a video you can find advertising it online and it's very strange. Yeah, does it work? I don't know
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It seems like it was made for TV products like oh, here's the thing. You can make a giant donut in a solar
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Yeah, it takes the sun's rays
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It looks it's like a tall cylinder. Okay make soup in it
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That's basically how they sell it
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It's almost like you know, what else is a solar kettle a really hot day, right?
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A pot. That's it. I don't think that that's what the commercials for because there's so much more danger implied by the commercials
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Yeah, I don't know. So since we started back in this late 2012 early 2013 time period
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I've been hearing that commercial for the weird device
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and every time I've had to suppress the urge to figure out what it's about right as I know from listening to Alex for this
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Long that something like that is often not satisfying to investigate you have this great thing. That's just come on. Come on
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Look at this. It's a device. It's a weird device
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Com yeah, I mean it could just be a crank-operated radio or flashlight. That would be a weird device. It's not that weird
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It's always unsatisfying. It's sour grapes
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And you look into Alex it Patriot marketing traditions are really manipulative and they play on emergencies and secrecy like that commercial does
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So I just decided I wouldn't even fucking get into it try and figure out what Frank Bates and the weird device are all about
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But this time I couldn't resist couldn't stop yourself. I had to get to the bottom of this and thankfully it wasn't too hard
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Thanks to a great investigative piece by Zach Beauchamp on think progress. Yeah, which a lot of this information comes from
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The weird device is but one of the advertising campaigns put out by a company called for Patriots
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It's a company that sells survival food seeds and all sorts of other stuff. You'd suspect a patriot oriented company to sell
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They tend to like that stuff Frank Bates is the face of the company and his story is the stuff of downtrodden patriot legend
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His family had suffered due to his unfair termination by an evil business
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power costs had driven him out of his home the federal government wanted to put him in a FEMA camp as
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Beauchamp explains quote Bates's testimony
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Up from dependence through three neat products is the beating heart of the four Patriots brand public image
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The marketing centers around the premise that these products that they sell are the things that allowed Frank Bates to break free of government
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Depression high power costs and all the rest of the other bullshit and become a independent
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Patriot yeah, I'm starting to I'm suspecting some issues here. Well, the first issue is maybe a big one
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There's literally no evidence that Frank Bates exists
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Yes, yes, of course
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for Patriots is a company that was started by a guy named Alan Baylor a Harvard graduate who was boarded his corporate job and decided
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To go to get into affiliate marketing
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This is the sort of thing where a person is aiming to drive traffic to a seller's website
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So they create their own website
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Ostensibly as a resource on products like the one the seller is marketing with links to the seller's website
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The internet is littered with websites like this where a page is like a write-up of the importance of humidifying air
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They have a bunch of essays with the talk at the right words the keywords in it and then at the end
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There's an Amazon link to a specific humidifier. That is what they make money off of the goal is to get the
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Affiliate website situated in a prime position with SEO
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So you funnel people to where the seller wants them to go
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Then the affiliate marketer gets a cut of all the purchases that come from clicks of that link around 2011 Balor
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stumbled into how lucrative and easy to market to the conservative community are and began focusing on them specifically
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He began a company called reboot marketing the parent company of all the various for Patriot initiatives and by all accounts
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He created fake Frank Bates to appeal to all the little things that are catnip to conservatives
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Which all basically boil down to rank paranoia in?
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2012 the company brought in
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11.8 million dollars using this strategy to quote Bo champ
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quote all Balor does is drench someone else's stuff and paranoid anti-obama finery and
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Advertise it to the conservative media sphere using a likely fictional life story and one of the places he decided to take
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his
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His advertising model to Alex Jones. Wow, that is fucking brilliant
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Really? He's not even making he's not making anything. He's not he's not creating anything. I don't think he is
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He's not he's not he's not adding any evil really into the world. He's just manipulating
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He's just wrecking paranoid guys and sending them to Amazon links and all the shit like that
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He's just recognized how easy it is to yeah to con the conservative
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At least this this end of it right this end of the conservative spectrum and then he got like
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He was all over the place. He was advertising on the blaze
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It was pretty endemic for a bit. Yeah, how's he doing now? I think he's still probably doing pretty good
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I want to now I'm now I like this guy
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It's such an interesting question to of like the legality of what he's doing
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Because if you just made up this guy as the pitch man or whatever, that's not illegal. No, that's not illegal at all
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He could be completely defrauding people who have an expectation or a belief that this guy is real
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But where it does get into like FTC laws being violated is if Frank Bates
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The fake character is giving a testimonial that these pot. Oh, okay. All right, because then you're entering the territory of
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Defrauding your customer right now, so it's this weird
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I don't know if he's ever broken the law if there's ever been an investigation
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But it's that it's that weird middle ground where you're definitely scamming people. Yeah. Yeah. No for sure for sure
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Or even are you it's not like you're stealing money from anybody
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I think I think he is because I think a lot of them have some pretty serious markups, too
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Oh, yeah, I think as I understand from that article and think progress. There is some there may there may be some
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like buying a ton of stuff from
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One of these companies and then seriously marking it up like the the affiliate marketing side of it is one
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Place like that's where it started but it appears that the business may have grown to the point
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Oh, he's also starting to sell his own stuff. Well as a conduit of other companies
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I know like one of the things that he sells is food like survival food
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Oh, he gets it from my patriotsupply.com which is the same place Alex sells food from
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Jesus Christ and according to that think progress article. He had a severe markup at survival food
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Yeah, so there's a chance that he gets stuff wholesale and then
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Like bilks people right just kind of the same thing Alex is doing it's almost entirely the same thing
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It's kind of weird to see it's not even kind of it's the same thing. Alex is doing it's weird to see an advertisement
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that's
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Basically for Alex's business model on his show. Yeah
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That's strange except it's almost like Alex is missing out on part of it. He's not getting any of the affiliate marketing
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Well, that's because his business is so
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In its adolescence. Yeah 2013. Oh, yeah. Well, that's true. Yeah, you're right. He has very few
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outside hustles other than his own business
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Right, what other kind like whatever possibly secret funding he may have or just the advertisers. Yeah
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the
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limerick soap guy
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His water filtration stuff the weird device is actually limerick soap
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yeah, and I mean it's it's entirely possible that weird device and
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The four Patriots is a specifically GCN sponsor. That's entirely possible
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But yeah doesn't mean that Alex isn't still profiting off of it
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Right and wouldn't have veto power of what sponsors they put on his show like he's made that network viable, right?
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So it's not like it's not like they were like, hey Alex
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We're gonna put this ad on your show against your will right? Right, right
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He just either it's just either accepts it and courted the sponsorship or he doesn't care
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Doesn't have I would go with has no idea based on based on the ad copy. It's based on weird device calm
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It's all you know
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There's no way that Alex is going to weird device calm and you definitely know that if anybody tried to explain to him how?
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Affiliate marketing worked he would get very bored. Yeah, so it's all over these shows though the ads and I've heard other ones from
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Frank Bates before like I've heard him do other ad reads in other time periods
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So like it's a sponsor that they've had for for a while. It's like having Bugs Bunny do your spokespersons
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That's so good. I love that. He made it up. That's so funny. Yeah, it's that it's that line too of like
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Where where does the you got to respect the hustle?
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And right where is the line that that ends because I still care about these people even if they're gullible
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I still care about them as consumers who deserve protection, right? You know, so I don't shut it down Warren. Come on
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No, I don't want the hey there Liz. I don't want them being ripped off right at the same time
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It's a pretty fucking funny story, but the shit they're buying is already being ripped off
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It's a zero value in the first place
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Yeah
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The fact that any not always any of this vertical integration exists at all is a giant scam you selling
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Like guides on how to build your own solar panels. Oh, well that actually might be useful
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It's not the think progress article the guy talked to experts in the field of solar panels
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Yeah, and he asked is like is this something that you could do and they're like no
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Well, did they read the book yeah, yeah, they reviewed the material, okay
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Well, then then we're in trouble and they were like it would be much cheaper to just buy solar panels
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Yeah, then to try and build your own based on the parts that you would need
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So this is ridiculous. So anyway, I'm gonna have solar panels to buy after the apocalypse happens Dan
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Yeah, so that's kind of advertising that Alex is up to in this 2013. No, this real fun
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Yeah, no good and real fun
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simultaneously and now we get
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Alex has a guest on this show on the 24th and it's the first time this guest shows up ever on the show
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Really? And it's interesting that it happens in this time frame and then simultaneously
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but I
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Want to go to our guests will play the famous clip of him dressed as a 70s pimp
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totally obvious with an underage girl telling him she's underage and
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And and and discussing how to get the tax exemptions and things for his pimping operation and how to run
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Little girls into the u.s. There it is. We've all seen that so won't play it now
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We'll get to it later and some other clips James O'Keefe great to have you on again
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I just salute you you were on the nightly news with jakari jackson last week
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So he's been on the nightly news, but he's never been on info wars. This is the info wars proper
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He's been kicked. He's been called up to the major leagues
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Yes, and you know, it's it's kind of interesting James O'Keefe
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Of course, the guy who runs project Veritas has become a very big piece. Not a very big piece
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He still comes on pretty regularly. Yeah
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at least he I don't I I
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Can't speak to that in 2019, but up until 2018 at least he was definitely around pretty regularly
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Alex would promote any of the dumb scams. He would try and pull
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He's a part of the info wars oeuvre. Yeah, I'm
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really consistently
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Flabbergasted anytime his name comes up that he hasn't he isn't in jail like every time his name comes up
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I'm like, oh well, obviously we handled that problem by sending that guy to jail right? No, he's still making no
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But he lied and he's lying and he's a liar
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so it's interesting to me that one of the only things that Alex can really pull from memory that
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James O'Keefe has done is going to acorn dressed as a pimp and here's why that's interesting to me
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There's there's no reason to speak positively in 2013 about what James O'Keefe did with acorn
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Which is the Association of Community Organizers for Reform now. Yeah, that's one of the most fucked up. Yeah bullshit
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See, that's what I'm saying. Shouldn't he be shouldn't be in jail? He should be and we'll get to another reason
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Why he should be a little bit that one that people don't really know about
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Well people do but you forget about it because of all the other fucked up shit, right? Yeah
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So after those videos were released they became the biggest fucking thing in the conservative world
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Obama had just won the 2008 election and the right was scrambling to find ways to attack him that would stick and one of them
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Was the accusation the acorn had engaged in voter fraud, which is just the GOP code for helping poor people vote
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Yeah, as opposed to voter fraud, which is what the GOP does the videos that O'Keefe made were not an investigation
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They were conceived of planned carried out and edited specifically with the explicit purpose of smearing acorns set in stone
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from the jump and I say edited for a reason those videos were manipulatively edited to such an
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Absurd extent that the one thing Alex remembers about the video isn't real
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James O'Keefe didn't go to acorn dressed as a 70s pimp with a girl dressed like a prostitute
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They showed up and talked to people in what you might call business casual attire
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But later edited and edited in footage of them dressed as a pimp and prostitute
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In order to make the viewer think that all the interviews as they were happening with that when they were talking to the acorn worker
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They want you to think that they were dressed as a pimp and this person was engaged with someone dressed like that
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Yeah as absurd. It's a false framing of the videos. It's the only detail that Alex remembers
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we know that he asked leading questions and edited together the acorn employees answers to make them look bad because a
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O'Keefe was forced to release all the unedited footage in order to avoid being charged with illegally recording people without their consent
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Which is a crime and when all the video footage came out is like, oh, this is clearly you are leading them down roads
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And it's it's nonsense
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Well, then I'm glad to know that all of the video footage came out and he was discredited
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Of course, and nobody ever paid attention to him again. Everybody remembers acorn as being one of the no
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It's a the nadir really of conservative lies. It's I mean, it's bad
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Investigations were launched into acorn which consistently found no wrongdoing on the part of the organization and its employees
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But it didn't matter the damage had been done just by the appearance created by these fucking liars and the GOP successfully pushed for
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Defunding of acorn before the investigations are even concluded as the GOP used acorn to attack Democrats Democrats began to distance
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Themselves or failed to stand up for the organization which ultimately led to acorn having to close up shop the Democrats
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What you know?
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They had to close up shop because they were unable to raise sufficient funds to continue their mission
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Especially with the defunding of government
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Grandsons. Yeah, that's it. That's essentially a microcosm of politics in America
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You bet the right make shit up and the left is like whoa
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Whoa, we can't touch this anymore. And then all the normal people lose their fucking lives. Yeah
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James O'Keefe didn't care about possible human trafficking or voter fraud when he made this video
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His goal was to make acorn unable to do the work they did because it was a threat to the right wing
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His actions constituted an intentional and malicious attack on voting rights
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But in the process he also managed to shutter a group that helped people receive fair wages for work receive a quality education
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And protect themselves from predatory loaning
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Ultimately the legacy of James O'Keefe's work is crippling a group that existed to help the poor. So congratulations to him
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the acorn videos were a big success as
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Propaganda largely because the involvement of Andrew Breitbart who discovered O'Keefe and amplified his work and put him on retainer basically for Breitbart
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It's really hard to look at the sort of all the failed stunts that O'Keefe did before this and how consistently his stings
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Completely fall apart after the point of Breitbart's death and not think that Andrew sensibilities and knack for propaganda
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Really had a ton for this acorn campaign succeeding
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It was the tutelage and mentorship of someone who really was good at that game
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Yeah, that made it work and James O'Keefe is coasting on that one win to the present day
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Yeah, constantly has shit blow up like that Roy Moore thing that he tried to pull with Washington Post
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Yeah, that was that completely blew up in his face. Yeah, he fucking hired Laura Loomer. Yep
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Yeah, sure. Yeah, no, and you know what? I bet everybody's discredited him forever and nobody's ever gonna pay attention again
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But no, that's not true. Don't we have it's fun now that we can
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Fucking bang on what wool? Is that his name Jacob? Well, yeah
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Yeah surprise I
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Don't think that Andrew Breitbart liked Alex Jones
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There was ample opportunity for him to be a guest on Alex's show before he died and he never did. Come on
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They were working for similar propaganda goals
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so they would appear to be natural allies that I get a strong sense that Andrew Breitbart didn't want anything to do with Alex and
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That can explain why in the 2009 period when the acorn videos were hot O'Keefe wasn't on Alex's show either
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His bread was buttered by Andrew Breitbart
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But now it's nine months after Breitbart's death and here is O'Keefe spreading his wings a little bit appearing on Alex's show
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Although all the people we run into on this show
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I think I have the least respect for James O'Keefe if only for how much work he puts into doing absolutely nothing
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His goals are always destructive towards vulnerable communities and his plans almost always fall apart
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But he has to put in way more
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Effort into these scams than someone like Alex does with his work
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Alex just has to pay a staff to write headlines and then he riffs on air and often drunkenly
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Yeah, you know there are people who are eviler
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but somehow the fact that James O'Keefe tries as hard as he does singles him out in my mind for
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Particular level of disrespect. I fucking hate that guy
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Yeah
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He's a little bit like Wile E. Coyote if he wasn't chasing a roadrunner and just it was punching a baby
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But that was basically it somehow still manages to miss the baby every time he tries to punch it
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That would work if he was presently and had been Wile E. Coyote for quite a while
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Yeah, but then in Wile E. Coyote's backstory was one time he got actually caught
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Because someone else
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I don't know. So, you know, this is a bad interview and it's mostly pointless
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Yeah, because we're trying to track what's going on in this 2013 period but specifically
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it's about trying to figure out Sandy Hook stuff and
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James O'Keefe's appearance is not really
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about that and it's just about Alex screaming about
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James O'Keefe being great and being a real journalist and we don't need to hear that
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Yeah
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But there is one point that I thought was really interesting
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And that is this next clip where James O'Keefe talks about something that he got in trouble for in the past
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And he's completely lying about this situation
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Continue you were talking about how they're authoritarians how they're always wanting you arrested for exposing their activities
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exactly, they
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There have been a number of occasions where I've been subpoenaed
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Most famously there was a huge story where I was in New Orleans investigating senator Mary Landrieu and
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She was not answering her constituents phone calls during the health care debate in 2010
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When in went into the federal building with a camera a recording device and as you pointed out one party can sense consent state
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So it's legal to do it in Louisiana, but I was in a federal building
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I was arrested and they were gonna let me go now as a journalist is all you're just there to ask questions
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And and then they found out that I was the acorn pimp
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I went into acorn posing as a pimp and hooker and and they said well
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You know based on the senator and these other situations
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we're gonna have to keep you overnight in federal prison and
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Then I wake up the next day and I find myself charged with some ridiculous felony. None of that is true
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Well, he did get charged with a felony. Well, it wasn't a ridiculous felony. It is actually it's a ridiculous
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What kind of ridiculous felony is it?
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so the reason the James O'Keefe got arrested for what he did to Mary Landrieu is because what he did was a
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Fucking felony and he is damn lucky. He didn't do hard time for it. I'm really mad about that. Yeah
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It sure seems like the conservative guys never go to as much prison as they should
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Yeah of the things that he's done like that one time
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He tried to lure a reporter on his boat or whatever it tried seduce her
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Yeah, like for a stunt like that that is creepy as hell and I yeah, maybe you should go to prison for that
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Yeah for sure, but this one for sure like I can't believe that he got out of this
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So he claimed that a bunch of people had told him that they weren't able to reach Landrieu who was then a US senator in
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Louisiana
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Landrieu claimed that people were having difficulty because the phones were quote jammed which makes sense
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There was a hot-button issue in terms of health care being discussed at that point back in 2010
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Which would obviously lead to an increased call volume
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O'Keefe decided to interpret this explanation of the phones being jammed as
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Actually meaning that Landrieu had said that there was a problem with her phone system
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He and three friends then decided to dress up like telephone repairmen and lie their way into her offices, which is super illegal
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That's called entering a federal building under false pretenses
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Once inside according to the FBI they quote
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Manipulated the telephone system which led some to believe that their true intention was to bug her phones
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You can't do that. You can't no you can't not like not even like you can't like you couldn't come here and
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Manipulate your phone device well without us being like a cell phone
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This is crime O'Keefe denied that that's what he was doing
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But ultimately it's hard to see what the goal of this stunt would have been she said her phones were really busy
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So they dress up like telephone employees and mess with the phone system to prove the phones aren't receiving a higher call volume
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Their actions don't really make a lot of sense in that context
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But they make a ton of sense if their goal was to illegally tap her phone
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Oh, yeah for sure and here's the thing if they were trying to tap the phones
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It wouldn't have just been her phone while they were there on their quote unquote sting
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They tried to access the entire buildings phone closet
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Which would have probably given them access to many of the phone lines in the building and remember
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this is a fucking federal building other officials government organizations and
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Judges had their offices in that building. It's pretty fucked up to consider what they could have possibly been up to
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Ultimately O'Keefe pled guilty to entering a federal building under false pretenses and was lucky to avoid some kind of like espionage charge
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Yeah, I was gonna say if you tap a senator's phone
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I'm pretty sure that's like borderline treason levels of like
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nope, you're you're you're it may have been a situation where they were
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Incompetent to a level that saved their lives. Yeah, like the Mueller report says about Trump
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Yeah, so many times is that he was just too stupid to commit the crimes that he should have
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Well, you know like Erik Prince was talking not too long ago about the project Veritas people
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Yeah, they were they were I couldn't teach them anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty funny. They were unteachable
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So James O'Keefe was sentenced to three years probation a hundred hours of community service and a $1,500 fine
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This is just one of the many instances in his career of him being the living embodiment of the white privilege
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He insists doesn't exist because anybody else caught in the situation that he was caught in
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Would not we wouldn't know about them. Oh, no, or we would have forgotten about them because they would have been in prison
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They wanted to yeah, they would have been disappeared. I don't know what disappeared. I'm just yeah, what you're did Guantanamo stop taking new people
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2020 I don't know when the next president gets elected. Yeah, so
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Alex earlier said that you know
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the Piers Morgan thing was the biggest media event of the last year and he's got a media guy on the show now a great
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Journalist by the name of James O'Keefe and so he's got to know what James O'Keefe thinks about Alex's appearance on Piers Morgan show
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James O'Keefe before we do that you want to comment on my Piers Morgan appearance or the overall attack on guns
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I mean, I think it's all kinds, you know to make the world go round
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Sometimes to get in their faces if what I did was discrediting the gun owners, which they tried to spin it
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Why would they have me back on other shows?
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Why was the producer crying and screaming get out get out get out if it was a defeat for gun owners?
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My comment on Piers Morgan is I only wish that
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Project Veritas went to his house and asked him to put a sign on his lawn
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Translation I would like some of that attention. Yep
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Because I've actually done some research and I actually have both of his addresses out there in California
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Cool, I think property in Beverly Hills under a different name. I looked in the white
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Maybe you might see a video from us in the next week or two coming out on that subject. Oh
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A little you make pink you're gonna be visiting Piers. Yeah, maybe
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What do you need funding for it? I bet you're doing good. Oh, yes. Well, we do need funding
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How about I underwrite you going to Piers house and then I get a plug for info Wars calm
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You want some help there? We might be able to talk about that. Yeah, maybe I'll go
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So what we got there is basically Alex offering to pay James O'Keefe to harass
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Piers Morgan, which again it's all three of them are just assholes. Yeah, I don't know what to do with that
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I have no I I'm just I'm a big fan of Alex whenever he absolutely
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Fixates on one thing and does not give a shit about what anybody else says
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Anytime James O'Keefe is trying to interject with something else. He's like
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Yeah, maybe we should do this
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He's like yeah, but I want to hey you need funding who cares. I'll give up go to Piers. I got money
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Hey also, could you pick up some chicken? Yeah. No, that's in the present. He's not into chicken back at this point. I
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Bet he's into chicken. Of course. He is. So in this next clip
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I that strategy that they're discussing of like James O'Keefe going over to Piers Morgan's house. Yeah targeted harassment
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Well, I mean on the one hand he's a public figure
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I think if there is a legitimate argument of it being a demonstration that I don't I don't know how against it
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I am as long as it's done with it
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Like not you you're not gonna go on his private property
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Right if you're demonstrating outside his house or something like on the street, right? I don't know
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Um, you know James O'Keefe, right?
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I don't trust him to operate
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Appropriately certainly that is a concern of mine, but with that strategy applied to Piers Morgan, you know
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You kind of feel like there's a little bit of a I don't know this next one
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That wiggle room or gray area goes away right out the fucking window
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What about making the the school's gun free and then advertising and hyping it?
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I mean, it's like they're hoping for another mass shooting to get our guns. What?
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Well, that's one of the things that we I thought about doing with this recent citizens against senseless violence mockumentary
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We made on YouTube. I thought about going to
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The Sidwell school. This is the school where David Gregory's kids go in Washington as well as Barack Obama's kids go and
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I just thought it was too risky because you know, there's Secret Service is there and
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Smart. It'd just be too risky. They probably arrest me immediately
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And I hope so but I would have loved to go to the Sidwell school where David Gregory's kids go and offer them
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To put a sign up that says this school's is gun free, but see that's your First Amendment, right?
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Maybe I should go there and do that and if they arrest you just to get some more news coverage
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I know you guys haven't done that so I guess you don't care that much by your principles now
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I would say I want to say that with or without going to the school
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This conversation on the show does all that that stunt would achieve
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Which is put focus on this school
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And it's really fucked up to hear these dudes say that sort of thing and act like they're all they're doing is some kind of
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acceptable gun rights advocacy because isn't what they're
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Yeah, even if confused
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But yeah
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Even if school shootings weren't a very real issue and even if there were an actual movement happening to take away people's guns
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What they're joking about is making a public spectacle of a school where children are just trying to learn
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Sidwell school is not just a little house where Obama and Dick Gregory's children get private instruction
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It's a place where over a thousand kids get an education with classes from preschool through high school
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even if you don't cause someone to view the school as a target for an attack by these sorts of
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Conversations and the supposed hypothetical actions by singling it out and creating a media storm around it
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You are hurting children
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because here's the thing that school is already a target and going through with a stunt like what O'Keefe is describing is only playing into
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That and exacerbating the issue on October 18th 2012 Sidwell school was evacuated after receiving an anonymous threat by phone on
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October 2nd 2014 the school was evacuated after this discovery of a suspicious package
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Coming on the heels of a man scaling the White House fence armed with a knife
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Beginning in the 2008 primaries if not way before Obama and his family have had to live with constant death threats a
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Large portion of these threats do not limit themselves to just the president
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They were about killing his family and for James to pretend he's not aware of that is pathetic
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mere months before this interview Sasha and Malia school was
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evacuated over a threat to the student body's safety and now O'Keefe is on air casually joking about planning to do things that would obviously
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Lead to that happening a bunch more. This is fucking irresponsible
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Unresponsible and it's it's just sad. It's sad. I I don't understand if
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Okay, so here's their plan
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They're gonna go to this school and just put an advertisement saying this is here. No gun zone
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Yeah, so the idea being when they are shot up you'll get to go see look at how smart we are
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We told you we told you should have had guns here, right?
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But he's saying like hey, I'm going to put this school here or this sign here saying there's no guns
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But I'll probably be arrested by Secret Service agents who absolutely have guns, right? There are armed guards everywhere there
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Yeah, so because the children that go to this school are targets
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Yeah, all the times of rhetoric like the stuff you put out into the world. Yeah, but the but I
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there but isn't there ultimate goal with this stunt to
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Find to have people get murdered in order to say I told I told you so I think that they would present their
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Desired outcome to be there being guns everywhere
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But yeah, I think that the likelier outcome is people
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Seeing that school as a target. Yeah. Yeah, that's the whole idea. Yeah, Jesus. That's fucked up. There's a billboard saying kill these kids
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Um, yeah, it is. Yeah, I
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Find it tough to argue that that's not at least the functional outcome of what they're talking about if
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Can't speak to intentions
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But it does seem like that would be the logical. Yeah, so
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you know our
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We're gonna jump off here from the 24th because they the two of them just have a long conversation about nothing and they don't care
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I'm stupid. I'm stupid too. Right great
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So we get off the 24th and we jump now to the 25th and this whole thing is supposed to be about
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Trying to figure out the Sandy Hook stuff where bad things happened in Alex's coverage where his rhetoric took turns
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And I think that January 25th might be a crucial turning point in Alex's career
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Because he says this
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New evidence has come out on CNN and I'm gonna be airing tonight. That's all I've got to say concerning me
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Sandy Hook shooting, you know, I have questions about it. I always do they have a history of staging these things
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So I believe in no people were killed there from the evidence we have but there was definitely all the signs
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This is being managed back now. It's pretty conclusive. I'm gonna air that tonight. I'm shaking to my core right now. I
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mean
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again
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Every instinct I've got is to flee this country
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So the the thing that you know, he's still saying the people died there
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But you can tell that there's some sort of a massive shift and he doesn't say what it is on this show and I had
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To watch a goddamn episode of the nightly news to try and figure out what he's talking about
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And there wasn't even any information on it. It was just David Knight being boring as hell. It was new information from CNN, right?
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No, no, so we don't find out what that is until a little bit later
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But we will get to that on this episode
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But just to let everyone know my pain I watched a fucking episode of the nightly news. I'm sorry
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so in this next clip Alex has a big announcement to make and this is
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Huge, I can't even tell you how you really doubt it. This is
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Game time don't trust you Alex is running a contest. Okay. Now it's now it's true. I said I would announce this a few weeks ago
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I've just been too busy, but it is the biggest contest we've ever had and it is for
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115,000 dollars our new film contest
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$115,000 first place $100,000 cash prize second place 10,000
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5,000 and then you will be in a pool in the running to have info wars calm and our news operation finance your film
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To then put it out not just on the internet for free like I've done with all my others
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But what we've seen the next to Sousa and others do putting them in theaters now
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I've always known how to do this and it's not that I shrink from work
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It's just that I know the model had a lot of Hollywood contacts as people know Charlie
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So that is going to be the plan now. They may shut everything down by them
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But regardless a hundred thousand dollars sounds like a lot of money and it is the biggest contest out there Doritos
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It's a hundred thousand. So this is the biggest contest next Doritos
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Dollars come on, I would rather do the Doritos
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Contest quite frankly then get in bed with your dumb ass. So I can't prove this as it relates to every Alex Jones contest
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but in this case
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I can confirm that Alex did actually name a winner in this contest and presumably did pay out that hundred thousand dollars
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As a prize because I can find out who this person is and I would assume they'd be crying bloody murder if Alex reneged on
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The yeah. Yeah in July 2013 Alex named a short film called purge the winner of the operation Paul Revere contest
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I watched it and man, I can't imagine how bad the other entries must have been really this thing
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Not great. I bet the other I bet there were a shit ton of really good ones
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They got passed over for purge. It started to make me think of how much I wish you would do it again
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Yes, I would love to do one where I just break down how stupid he is. Yeah
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So here's my critical review of this film purge that I repeat I watched yeah, it's only like 18 minutes
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So it's not that bad but like I'm gonna start with the positives. It appears that the film was shot with actual cameras
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Good, it's edited with reasonable competence. That's nice. That's about it
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Now the negatives the acting is shit
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The writing is laughable and the message is really muddy and it kind of implies that people need to start killing government agents now
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It kind of sounded like from the name being purge
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I assumed that some people were gonna get purged and if Alex chose this as the winner
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I
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well
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He's not purging some people
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I'll tell you this is not an episode of gun smoke
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So it might be not be as satisfying for me to describe the plot to you
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But here goes the short film begins at a meeting of the Homeland Security
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Department where a guy is giving a briefing to a group of like eight people who have unspecified jobs
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He's giving a description of the situation that the DHS is facing that basically reads like a script written by Alex Jones
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Imagining what DHS and their meetings would be like terrorists terrorists. We gotta get these Patriots
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Yeah
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Military veterans are extremists sure every time someone in the meeting expresses disapproval of what's being said
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The speaker whispers in German to his assistant as if to imply that they're Nazis. Gotcha
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The people in the meeting room grow restless then as they talk back
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They're sent to the other room the other we go to the other room to finish your training. All right
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I like it one is sent for saying that the American people are good one is sent for talking back and
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Another one is sent to the other room for reading an infowars magazine in the middle of the meeting
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When asked what he's doing he replies quote getting some real intelligence
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It's a shameless plug but ultimately probably what one
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That's the smartest thing anybody did in that entire fucking
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That was that that was a caller calling him being like first
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I want to let you know that I love your products. That was exactly that it's not that guy's a genius. It's
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embarrassing in the context of the show of course
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But you know you get why he did it the remaining agents are given
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Extremists in their sector to follow they're given dossiers on people one of the agents decides to call one of the extremists
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She has a file on to see if he's an extremist or not, which is crazy. That's a good phone call her call to him is
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Laughably written is is a pile of shit quote. This is agent Danielle Robbins with the DHS
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I'm concerned about an operation the DHS is conducted, and I'm wondering if I can get some more information from you
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That's what she says to the guy that she has a file on okay. All right, okay is
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Okay, I'm gonna lead with the information that the DHS is up to something fucked up. Yeah regarding you
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Specifically exactly can I let me ask you some questions? Are you an evil person? You're not now if you cool
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Then I'm going to betray the government for you
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You you won the non evil person who I have a file on yeah
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She offers to meet up and buy him a beer and he's a bit a bit skittish about it
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But they agree to meet up at a children's soccer game at night presumably for safety
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I don't know the DHS is gonna kill those kids drinking no. They're not drinking
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Oh, I thought she was asking her to buy the bow okay. I gotcha all right so this dude that ends up
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His name is Rowley McMahon
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He's an absurd
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Idealized version of the who the conspiracy types think they are right right of course. He's a veteran a noble veteran
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He's cool as a cucumber with a well-trim beard and of course he is portrayed by the director of the well naturally
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Yeah, naturally he spouts a ton of Federal Reserve talking points at agent Robbins and red pills the fuck out of her to anyone
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Not trapped in the infowars delusion. He sounds like a raving madman, but in the film
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He's a prophet all of his ramblings end up coming true and the the rest of the movie plays out pretty much exactly like a
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dramatization of one of Alex's rants
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The extremist who's actually right about everything he gets a heads-up message from agent Robbins saying they're coming
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But she misspells there as th EIR. Oh
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No come on
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guys
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Get your fucking spelling right for God's sakes the short ends with agent Robbins following the agents who were sent to Rowley's house
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To wrap it up. She follows them there and kills them
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Another agent who spoke up at the meeting and got sent to the other room shows up at the DHS office and starts killing people
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Okay, it's a really fucked up ending but probably exactly what Alex was looking for. Yeah
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Hey, I'm all for free speech and artistic expression and all that
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But I would be remiss if I didn't point out how fucked up a fictional short film is like this when it exists on a platform
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Like infowars this isn't a fiction to the infowars audience
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So when the things reach their natural conclusion and people in the short start murdering the Department of Homeland Security people
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It's hard not to imagine that his audience would see that as a happy resolution to the story
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Unsurprisingly according to IMDb the director of Michael Dorman seems stuck in the corner of show business you might describe as
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Infowars adjacent self-produced short film that sounds right. So
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Yeah, it's really fucked up like the the twist at the end of them murdering a bunch of DHS employees
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Yeah, that doesn't sound great. I actually kind of got a little bit of a flutter like of anxiety
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Yeah, I was watching it cuz it came out of nowhere. It didn't feel like that's how this was gonna end
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Cuz I thought the end would be the purge would be of the DHS employees
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Like stood up for the Patriots, right?
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I thought that like the end of it would be fulfilling the paranoia as opposed to the
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Murdering government employees fantasies. It's it was weird. I think and I based on the way you've described it. Uh, the
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Paranoia didn't really make that much sense. Did it know and in fact, they just kind of murdered DHS people didn't they?
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Well, I mean, I guess a whole lot of the Patriots still did get rolled up like in the the okay
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You know, okay cuz the DHS people didn't just go to Roland McMahon. Okay, I got you
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They were going all over the place like his paranoid fantasies did come true
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He was only spared by the fact that agent Robbins called gotcha, you know
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But even if that's the message of the movie towards the end like a bunch of people still got rolled up
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Yeah, like isn't that what you wish to avoid?
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Well the way to avoid that is kill the DHS people before that that does make sense. It seems like that's a pretty logical
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Thing to take away from the film now here is my other logical takeaway from the film. Okay?
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Clearly these people think that they are some level of hero and that they 100% alone are capable of
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red-pilling other
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PHS agents who would just give them a chance right now has the DHS tried using the first part of that strategy
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Where they call up all these guys and go hey
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Tell me more about yourself and what you want to do. I'm part of the DHS and they're doing an
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Evil investigation into you guys and then they'll reveal themselves tell all their plots and then we'll catch him in the honeypot trick in the real
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World how it would play out is the agent calls this guy they meet up the guy fucking kills the DHS agent
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No way thinking it's a setup or something. Oh something goes bad. Yeah, something goes bad
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I or I don't know he gets seen with the DHS agent and all his Patriot buddies think he's a snitch and kill him
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You know, there's it doesn't go this way
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Probably not also the problem with the plot of the story is the fantasy purge that happens
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Yeah isn't ever going to happen. So no, yeah
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What is going to happen though is somebody shooting up a DHS?
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Office if that's what they think is a good idea. It does it does seem like a possible
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No, not not a deep. Yeah, maybe not a possible outcome, but definitely a possible fantasy. Yeah, that would be created for sure
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I don't know free speech make whatever kind of art you want to make
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But shame on you. Well, I mean every time every time these guys talk about guns being for self-defense
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They always create these fantastical scenarios. Wherein now it's justified
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I all my self-defense rules are met. So now I get to go out and live my fantasy
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That's what 90% of Alex's rhetoric boils down to when you just get deep enough when you when you follow the thread to the end of
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It yeah, it's largely
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Justified violence fantasies. Yeah, so
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This next guest that comes in here on the 25th is now suing Alex
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In the present day. It's Jerome Corsi
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All right, and the two of them sit down and it is like a date that is going well
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This is before he worked at yeah
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He's still working for world net daily at this point these two I hate to say this because I hate both of them
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They got great chemistry. That's fantastic
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Fantastic cuz Corsi is a yes and guy. Yeah, so Alex will say something and course. He's like you bet absolutely
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Piggyback Alex's point that gets Alex excited that yeah gets it. They have a momentum that feeds each other
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Yeah, like a lot of guests don't have like a lot of people get interrupted by Alex and it's a speed bump
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whereas Corsi and him have a
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Dynamic electricity and that makes this very hard to cut clips from because they just go all over the place
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They're bouncing off the walls
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Rambling about shit, but it's mostly about China sucking. Okay. All right. That's not how I thought that was gonna go
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I can't believe it's really happening
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The Bank of China has had meetings with the United States government
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The plan is set for China to transfer its debt into equity own parts of the United States manage
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That's official. It's official the meetings have happened
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That's why they said the people's daily a month ago. You will take the guns meetings have happened
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So so they want the property they know we're gonna fight China wants to disarm the United States before this plan is implemented
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We are being conquered by the globalist leverage in China. Absolutely. China wants us to have this crazy. I
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Mean, this is so and I want to talk about the military
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It's a plan the colored pivot theory Obama's plan to bankrupt a Soviet globalist commie plan
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Jesus guys get a fucking room
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Yeah, have you ever heard that that song cutting heads by the RZA and ODB where they're like trading line?
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Yeah, it's going back and forth. That's what that feels like. Yeah, it's like they're finishing each other's goddamn sentences
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That's so gross. It's like they had a mind bells dynamic. Yeah, I
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Rarely hear like that kind of thing with Alex like someone who's really rolling with his energy
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Yeah, it's I mean because of who they are. It's deeply upsetting. Oh, yeah, it's
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He does he sound like that all the time. What do you mean?
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I mean, he sounded a little bit like he's got a cold and he has he always sounds like okay, and he has this like
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Lilting almost like he's doing arpeggios up and down whenever he talks. No, that's that's pretty much how he always talk. That's disgusting
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It's not pleasant. Mm-hmm. Um, so at the end there, so I don't know if you caught that whole thing
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It's like China wants to start controlling parts of the United States as collateral for the debt and they need to
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They're gonna take over and that's why they need to take the guns away, right?
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And then it gets into the Cloward and Piven stuff and here is Corsi talking a little bit more about the Cloward and Piven plan
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And why is they talking about I mean lying the Bank of China has met with the federal government
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They've said we want if we want assets now and for our debt
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We'll get in the Cloward Piven theory drives this because the Cloward Piven to
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Sociologists we had a plan they bankrupt New York in the 70s with this idea
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Overloading welfare. So capitalism crashes you blame capitalism you reconstruct
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socialism let the Chinese come in and show us how to do it the Chinese understand capitalism the way it works and
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We're just being prepared for it. So that's not true at all
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The first of all Cloward and Piven was has never been enacted by anybody
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Yeah, that's nonsense and the Cloward and Piven plan
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We talked about this way back
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But so it bears maybe reminding people in case they haven't heard these old episodes. It was a plan that a couple of sociologists
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Suggested and the motivation for it was the realization that there are tons and tons of people who are living at poverty
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Levels that aren't taking advantage of social
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safety programs, you know things
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But for a long time I was probably eligible for food stamps. Yeah, and I didn't take advantage of that program
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so what they were suggesting was
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People being made aware of programs that they qualify for
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So that they would sign up and so it would become a very large problem
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The reason for this was not to bankrupt a state or bankrupt the country
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What it was was to draw attention to the idea that there are so many people who are living in abject poverty
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It was an attempt to make the system make the government
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Recognize the tremendous size of the problem by making it their problem
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That's what it was and it's never been
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Enacted. Yeah in any way it wasn't designed to
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Bankrupt anybody it was designed to make the system recognize
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The problem that citizens were living in the desperate straits that they were in
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And the only way that you can get the system to pay attention is to force them to pay more money than they want to
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Basically, well, at least that's what they feel that was. Yeah, that was their theory. Yeah, and so whatever
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I mean, I know of course he doesn't want people
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To survive. No. No, he's not a big fan of that. So great poor people suck
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Haha, anyway, that's all we're gonna listen to Jerome Corsi and Alex, but man, it's like I said
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Fireworks. Yeah, you guys that was hired. That was crazy. Good. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely
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And it's it's it was way better listening to them bounce off each other because the more course he talked by himself
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The more he developed that it's almost like the opposite of vocal fry where every time he talks he will end the sentence down here
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I told I hate that guy and he's going to talk to you all the way all the way. He's a boring is a boring dude
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And he's got a nosebleed or something can't stand him. Yeah, so as Alex keeps going through the show
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He says this and it really upset me because what I think he's doing is trying to skirt
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The law. Well, yeah, and at the same time advocate that his audience stop taking their meds
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Which is an incredibly dangerous thing to do. So I want to come back and get into the shootings and
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How he recommends people are able to phase off of serotonin reuptake inhibitors because going right off of them the inserts tell you
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That'll make even go more
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Daffy Duck where he bounces around and shoots off into the you know atmosphere or over the horizon
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Stop. So I'm no medical doctor the medical doctors we've had on and the psychologists like address have said that are you know?
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They're awake all day. They're off. He's cold turkey. Whatever you do. I'm not giving that advice. That's what they say
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I'm not giving any medical advice here. I'm just going off the research and what I would do
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So we're going to talk about the mass shootings how to get off of it. So that is as
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Much of him saying get off your meds while being like that's not what I'm saying
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Hey, I'm not telling you search in the awake doctors that we've talked to
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Say which is fucked up who again are all veterinarians for the most part. Yeah
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So even the psychiatrists that advice that Alex is giving well very nimbly skirting legal rules about giving out medical advice is so fucking
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Irresponsible on the one hand. It's definitely better to wean off a medication than to go off at cold turkey
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But even tapering off it isn't safe unless you're under the care of a doctor
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This kind of flippant is is super dangerous and could jeopardize someone's health or even their life
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The person that he's talking about because he said he will talk to him the person he's talking about in that clip
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You might assume that it's a doctor or licensed psychiatrist
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But that assumption would be wrong. It's a pharmacist by the name of Ben Fuchs
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Why is Alex interviewing the pharmacist you ask?
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Easy answer because Ben Fuchs is a board member of Young Jevity the supplement company run by veterinarian
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Joel Wallach who is one of Alex's main sponsor knew it Oh veterinarian again. Well adjacent. He's a pharmacist. Oh
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Also Ben Fuchs hosts a show called bright side on the Genesis Communications Network talk about synergy
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It's important to point out that though Ben Fuchs is a licensed pharmacist or at least he was at one period
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He doesn't have a doctorate or any kind of advanced degree in the field or in any other field
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He has a Bachelor at art of arts in broadcasting and a Bachelor of Science in pharmacy science
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I'm taking that information from his own bio on his own website
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You should also know this in 2011 the accreditation council for the pharmacy education in America the organization
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He changed its policies and made it so a postgraduate degree in pharmacy studies is required for someone to be eligible to take the North
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American pharmacist license to licensure
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Examination so based on current standards Ben Fuchs's education doesn't even qualify him to try to be a pharmacist
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Because a doctorate of pharmacy degree is required to take the test to become a pharmacist
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Schools in the United States don't even offer a bachelor of pharmacy degree as an accredited thing anymore
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Yeah, so to sum it up Ben Fuchs got a degree in 1986 that doesn't exist anymore
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It doesn't even qualify him to pursue a career in the field of being a pharmacist
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This man has zero qualifications to be dispensing medical advice
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And he has at least two conflicts of interests with doing so on Alex's show, but that's the thing
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He's not here to give medical advice
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He's here to sell
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Younggevity products and he doesn't give a fuck about the people who might be hurt by Alex using him to advocate that his listeners go
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Off their meds in the most full-throated way. I can possibly express this fuck you Ben Fuchs
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You can do that
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There's so many things that are legal that I really don't think are okay like he can just go on
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Be presented as an expert
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man, he has a bachelors in pharmacy and then
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And then what convinced people to go off their medications
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I undoubtedly causing harm upon harm upon harm
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Well, I don't know if he well, yeah, he is kind of yeah to people not being on their meds
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But he's less irresponsible about it than Alex's because he at least couches so much of it in like, you know
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What's great if you're depressed sunlight? Yeah
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so yeah, it's
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Yeah, anyway, what makes this even worse is this is fucking paid time
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No, you know how I know that because listen to this clip Ben Fuchs
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pharmacist Ben
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Sent Alex the questions to ask him. No
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And again Ben joins us and I've got some of the questions
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I said send me questions that I should ask so I can understand this better and for people this is just an infomercial
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I am coming on your show
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I have told you what I want you to ask me as setups for me to go into whatever topics I want
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But in this next clip Alex talks about his get off your meds shit
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And I think he times his question about getting off your meds
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very strategically
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We gotta go to break but from my research is you're the big pharmacist and the expert but well other experts are telling me
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After you've been on these drugs a while though
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It burns you out then they put you usually on more then you're in a hyper awake form of sleep
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You're in a dream state or daydreaming state
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But hyper awake having a hallucination and that's why people then go and use a meat cleaver to chop up their one-year-old baby and drink
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The blood when the woman was a Sunday school teacher. We'll be right back. Stay with us
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So you notice how that started off as a question wasn't that a question and then he rambled to the break and I think that's
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So he can introduce these ideas
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And sort of pimp dr. Ben out or pharmacist Ben out a little bit like, you know based on what you know
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Yeah, he associates Ben with what he's saying, but doesn't give him any time to respond at the end
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So they're like what's he supposed to do? But what's Ben supposed to do? You got to let that happen. No, no
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Shit, this mic was probably off. Yeah, probably
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So when Alex comes back he realizes he's been ranting a little bit and so he does this
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He makes a very courteous offer which is to
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Leave the studio. So Ben can talk that is nice of him. Like this is your radio show now
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Cuz I'm actually gonna turn off the microphone walk out of the room because this gets me so angry and so excited that I'll start
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cutting into you in the rest of this segment get into the trip to fan and
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The fact that they don't you know, what's in meat?
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They don't want us getting that explain what what who's the guy who's you don't want people getting trip to fat?
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What who's is so gonna outlaw turkey the government the government is actively?
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Eroding our Thanksgiving Day traditions. I think it has something to do with being against vegetarians
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It's a war on Christmas Dan really not sure so war on Christmas. So this next clip Alex slut shames
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Some folks from his past and also simultaneously pretends. He went to college
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I've known women on it in college that were every woman I knew on it was a nymphomaniac
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I don't want to get into details here, but I didn't like that. I want the real woman
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I want the real personality not like some biological Android. What's why does this?
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Obviously, they want more crazy people. So they want to put you on something that makes you crazy
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And Ben doesn't say no Alex. That's a crazy thought on your part. It's it's a mess
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So they get into like talking about young Jevity products, you know, of course, it's it's just an ad pitch
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I mean
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You hear him like Ben say things like there's no proof that
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Serotonin has anything to do with depression
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Boy, all right, man, whatever
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Because and I don't even care. I don't I don't care to discuss his medical claims. Yeah one. He's not a doctor
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Yeah, and number two, he's just there as a pitch man
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Yeah, and you can hear that sort of play out in this next clip and Jim followers health calm
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This is a revolution though, because I'll tell you this beyond tangy tangerine polymers plus
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The essential fatty acids all of it it
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It gets what it's giving me is more energy because we always think of drugs is something magic to give us an energy
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No, we're designed for the minerals the trace elements the things we need the government says we need 40-something vitamins and minerals
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We need 90 and it's all available at
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100.com 200. Okay. So continuing. Okay. Basically you're saying get out the sunshine while you wean yourself off
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There's different regimens online yourself takes about two months generally depending on the time
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But do you obviously consult one of the physicians problem is these psychologists aren't really physicians and they'll they'll tell you stay on it
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Or the very answer is more of it. Well, you this isn't working. We'll stack them, you know, that'll that'll fix it
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So we're not telling you what to do. I'm saying get out exercise fresh air
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Pray to God that if you don't believe in that meditate all the studies show it works whatever reason praying helps
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You know, there are no atheists and foxholes
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Why does the study show I've got them right here that the praying helps
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Well relaxation response, you know, that's the reason why people have religion in the first place
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Hey that there's something that can help them that can take control over their lives
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I also I do like the idea though that Alex can't yell at him for that
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Yes, he just said religion exists because it calms you down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's anybody else. There'd be a hostile
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Exchange but because this guy what because this guy is paying for his time on the show Alex has to let him impugn
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religion it kind of it kind of
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It kind of almost sounded like a little petulant when he was like
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I'm just gonna get out of the studio because it's like this isn't my time. No, I thought it I I think that it
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It wasn't petulance. But what you're saying is is right. Yeah, like the idea that like I I don't own this time
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I'm yelling over you because yeah hot and bothered about telling people to stop taking their meds
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I think that that was that is behind it the awareness that like this is brokered program
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Yeah, but it wasn't like it wasn't him lashing out. I don't think is what I'm yeah
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I think you're I think you correctly got what I'm distinction. Yeah, but
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the the thing that is so disgusting is
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Even while he's saying like oh, you should go talk to your psychologist
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But they're not really physicians and they're gonna tell you maybe you should stay on it
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Also, I think like more as if like going there, you know
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You're going to get the wrong answer right now Alex isn't telling you that it's the wrong answer. No, no
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No, he would never say that it's the wrong. I love this pharmacist Ben
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He's just saying that if you go there, they're gonna give you the wrong answer, right?
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So where are you gonna get the right answer Oh young Japanese sounds right?
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much like
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Pharmacist Ben also, this is sort of missing from Alex's assessment
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Psychologists can't give you meds
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so
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Psychiatrists can give you rights. You should probably be more specific with his language. Yeah
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So there's a real trend that's going on that pharmacist Ben is trying to present himself as a doctor
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And he's trying to use scientific terms. He gives you the etymology of serotonin. Great not right about it
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But he's trying he's trying to be scholarly and like real
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Scientific and medical and Alex is getting weird and there's a strange dynamic that's happening. Is he getting?
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Www.weirddevice.com he's close. Okay jellyfish. We are colony creature
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You know about that, don't you the fact that our tissues make up a colony colony? That's right. We're a hundred trillion cell colony
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That's exactly right
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That resonates from signals from space
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Now that's in retaliation for you saying that religion is just to calm people down
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Fuck you. We have DNA that are
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Receptors for messages from space. I gotta go. I gotta go Alex. I don't know that is not a corse level
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Interaction right there. No, they got along. Well, cuz young jeopardy pays the bills, but they did not have the same chemistry that
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the
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Corsi and Alex did proven DNA gives us messages from space. So shut up. That was the 25th. That was Friday and
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Like Alex said at the beginning of the 25th
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He said that on the nightly news there was going to be big breaking news about Sandy Hook
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Mm-hmm
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And like I said, I watched that nightly news Alex did not have big breaking news about that
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So because we're doing this episode and I knew that Alex said on the nightly news. There was going to be this information
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I was like, oh, well, I'll find the information from the nightly news. We'll be good. That'll make the episode of whatever
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I watched the nightly news. It's nothing on there. Like well now I gotta listen to Sunday
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See if he comes into studio and says what the news is
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And here is Alex coming in on Sunday
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Special report why people think sandy hoax is sandy hook is a hoax almost called it sandy hoax
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I'm gonna be getting into that. Yeah, we got that right. So we all heard that gave me a sense that
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We're in for something. Yeah, that doesn't sound promising that was in his headline breakdown at the top of the show
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He doesn't get into that immediately because he's got other things to riff about
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And the first is that it's clear that he should be calling for Trump's impeachment
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if he had any kind of moral clarity and
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intellectual consistency
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if you read article 1 section 9 clause 8 of the Constitution several other clauses that we have posted up at
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Info wars dot-com and prison blooded comm in the federal government declares itself royal video and under it. I have links to these areas
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It is a felony and an impeachable offense
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When the president or anyone in the federal government or with the Federal Commission takes a title of nobility
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But we've had sitting presidents become knighted by the way that that a lot of stuff comes with that if they would that's a huge payoff
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No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States and no person holding any office of profit or trust
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Under them shall with the consent of the Congress accept any present
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Ammonia men of office or title or of any kind whatsoever from any king prince or foreign state
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They all take giant speaking gifts million-dollar speaking gifts by the Saudis by the Emperor of Japan
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That's why they bow. That's why they sell us out
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And you so if you're going to complain about speaking fees and that that sort of thing then get right with God Alex
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Also, Jimmy Carter sold his fucking small-time peanut farm just so he wouldn't be in violation of the emoluments
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All emoluments clause certainly did also pretty sure that you have to be British to be knighted
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I think that there's a different I believe it's a peer of the state
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Thing you can yeah, the Queen can bestow upon you. Yeah like a friend of the realm or yeah
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Yeah, basically, but you have to be a prince of Dorne, right?
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Have to be British to be a knight anyway
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So we get now to the big news about the sandy hole. I mean hook
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Uh-huh. Nice. Alex is nicely dead. I do think that was an actual slip. Yeah. No, I agree
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I don't think that was intentional but it does speak to where his mind is that yeah
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That sounds like he's a speaking New York Post headlines now where it's just sandy hoax with a question mark a little question mark
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Yeah, except it's not a question mark for him anymore. I
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Have not gone there that there's actors and blue screen and it's all fake until I actually confirmed
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We caught him CNN and blue-screen. It's got that. I got the video. That's their original video
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That's the one and a bunch of other stuff. It looks really bad and this even shakes me up
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I mean I say in the video is everything got to be a conspiracy
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I mean you think I'm the one who thinks everything's a conspiracy. Yeah, I cannot believe
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how bold these people are and
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When I saw this blue-screen thing
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I said that can't be real and I went looked it up and it was the it was the CNN video and I
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I
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Show you the rest of stuff. It's it's pretty damning. So it's the CNN
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Anderson Cooper video that is very well explained has shaken Alex to his core
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He wasn't going there with the actor stuff, but now everything has changed
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He has turned a corner here on January 27th 2013
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This is pathetic. I cannot handle him having an
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exasperated tone when he says
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Does everything know Alex know it does does everything have to be an opportunity for your
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Money, you're the you're the reason it's hard also not to hear this
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shift coming only a couple days after
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They had the James Tracy on and recognize the profitability the template point six
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million views and also a few days after Alex did that terrible display with the Lone Star College shooting like
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It's really hard not to see this
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Video the CNN Anderson Cooper video is being more of an excuse than it is actual evidence
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Yeah to Alex. It does. It does feel a little artificial. So
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Alex is still a little bit ambivalent. You can tell that something's changed and the direction of his content is going to be towards that
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Actors idea. Yeah, I'll show you the rest of stuff. It's it's it's pretty damning
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I don't know what's going on, but it looks bad. That's all I'm gonna say
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And I have real federal sources who've said look into it they think it's fake too
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So there's a lot of good people in the system
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So he has real sources. He does have to make clear. These are real sources
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Yeah, which makes me think they're not real sources as opposed to his other sources. Yeah
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Because we they're saying it's fake. So he's got he's got reinforcement for whatever pivot he's going to make towards this
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It's good to know that there are some good people in the system, right?
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So those are real sources that he has that he's talking to which is important to remember because on this 27th Alex gets a caller
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towards the end of the show and
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This guy might be someone who Alex thinks is a real source now Oh Jack in Texas
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You're on the air moving quick here. Go ahead
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Alex it's very important. I have absolute proof of an imminent false flag attack in Syria
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Well, I mean Israel says they've got to invade because
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Documents I have absolute proof I can send it to you right now. I'm in Terrell, Texas
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I'm not going to be here very long. I can meet with your people. This is imminent. This is happening right now
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I have absolutely free. I can't meet with every person that says it's imminent. I mean
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Right now so you're in the army
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No, sir. I am calling on behalf of 4chan.org the politically incorrect board. Oh
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Interesting really interesting this is in 2013
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2013 god damn it
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Isn't that interesting a caller is calling in with proof of an imminent false flag attack in Syria on behalf of
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That he is getting from 4chan, huh?
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So this caller is trying to seed this information with Alex that there are these documents that are proving that a false flag is coming
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In Syria and the information is from 4chan. Nothing is really all that different back then really it's weird
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The more you look at it the more the it pretty similar it is even though some of the external
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Appearances of things have changed quite a bit
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So the case of this information is actually really interesting
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The caller is saying that the documents have come from a hack
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He goes on to explain this that they came from a hack of a group called Britam
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Defenses and it is apparently true that that firm was the victim of a cyber intrusion
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So that you know, there is some real-world basis for this. Yeah, for sure much of the information
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That was leaked afterwards was legitimate
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They ended up getting put even the stuff that was on 4chan a lot of the documents that came out were legitimate
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however
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experts who've studied the leak are certain that the document about a pending false flag in Syria is fake was
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Fabricated specifically to be put in this leak and was planted there
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Yeah, in fact Britam defenses sued the Daily Mail for posting a story about this document and one winning a settlement of
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110,000 pounds for libel
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Interestingly Alex posted an article about this that is no longer online
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I wonder if that has something to do with this man
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So the fact that this fake document was planted into a legitimate leak of hacked documents really calls into question who it was who carried
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This out
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It doesn't seem like it would be some random person or low-skilled hacking group since Britam was penetrated as part of the operation
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The only real motive for inserting the false document
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Which is the one that was publicized using the other documents as support like people weren't talking about the other document
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Yeah, it was this specifically fake one. That was the one that got all of the media push
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It's what this caller is calling in to try and sell Alex
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I the only motive is to make any chemical attacks that Assad might commit immediately be
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Suspected as false flags and the only people who would really have that kind of a motive would be pro Assad entities
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The list is pretty short. Um, let's see. So
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extremely powerful hacking capabilities or at least
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Sophisticated early sophisticated. Yeah. Yeah
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pro Assad
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Interested in seeding propaganda narratives right right-wing communities, right?
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This is 4chan for dissemination smart
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Smart way of backing up there boy. There's just nobody I can think of not a single person
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No, and and wait probably a coincidence that after this
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Putin frequently made arguments that the chemical attacks that Assad did were false flags. Probably a coincidence
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It's probably a real coincidence this that this happened
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After Putin became president again, if that's so that's so coincidental man that it would happen like that
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I don't I mean, I don't know it's one it's one thing to say that I'll
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It looks good
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You know, there are a lot of elements of this that do make it look like, huh?
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Yeah feels like Russia might have been in had. Yeah, I had a hand in that
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Yeah, but at the same time it's entirely possible. They did. Oh, no, it could it's also entirely possible that
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It's somebody from 4chan
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Wanted to fuck around. Yeah, it's you know to jump to that conclusion due to alliances history patterns
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But that doesn't prove anything. No, as far as I could tell it hasn't been proven who necessarily was behind right?
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But whatever the case is this caller probably unknowingly is tell us actually goose it for 1.0 could have been
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Alex is getting this call and I don't think that the caller knows that that document is fake. Mm-hmm
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That would be wild that doesn't sound that would be insane. It's it's actually yeah, what's actually Putin on the phone, right?
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English is great. Yeah, he's doing great these days. This caller is
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Trying to trick Alex about something he's been tricked about
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Mmm, it's fascinating the layers of bullshit that are going on and what's even more interesting is that Alex buys it hook line
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And so here's Alex's response
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Why don't you?
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Scan those in put them up to YouTube and again 4chan is just is just you understand anonymous can be good
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It can be bad. But a lot of times it's it's government sock puppets. You understand that I
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Understand that Alex. Look I'm sending it to you at show tips info at show tips and info wars calm
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You look at it. You'd be the judge. I'm telling you. This is damning. This is what I'm sending. Are you sending it right now?
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I'm I'm sending it right now. God help me. I'm probably signing my own death. No, you're not listen. I listen. Listen. Listen
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I just sent it to show tips at info wars calm. It's alright. Well just I mean who knows if it's even real
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So it's good thinking they're gonna get you they don't have real power. Listen. God bless you my friend
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I appreciate your call that is so demonstrative that Alex doesn't believe the bullshit
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He sells on his show the way you so dismissive of this caller like and and the way he's like they don't have real power
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You're not gonna kill you. Yeah, what if the information was real?
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What if this guy did have some sort of secret information that he could be killed for disseminating Alex, you know, come on
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If there's anything we know Alex is far more careful with his sources than the intercept. It's an insane
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Level of distrust of his own audience, which I think is healthy, but it doesn't match how Alex presents himself. Well it
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I'm gonna ask you this because I could go either way on this at this point
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Does Alex know that he has a show tip email address. Yeah, okay
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Yeah, he talks about it a lot right? So when Alex says, okay post it to YouTube
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Well, I think he was just trying to be like, hey, why don't you do farm this out yourself?
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Yeah, like why don't you why don't you get this ball rolling then I'll cover your video. Yeah, that's what I was saying
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Yeah, he's deliberately saying don't send it to me. I don't want to create more work for Paul
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Watson's busy poor put upon Paul. What's yeah now what I thought was interesting was I
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Heard that and Alex being like now, you know, this is there's good information
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There's bad information that comes out of anonymous sources, you know, it's a lot of government sock puppets
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I heard that and I immediately I don't know why but I immediately was like
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He's gonna fucking report. This is a story like I just knew I had a hunch
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And so I had to listen to the 28 because I was like, I'm Garrett. I'm positive
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He's gonna report this so from from time to call to when does he report it?
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I was certain it was gonna be the next day. Yeah, and here's what happens on the 28th
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We got a call yesterday
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About hacked emails out of a big British defense contractor
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Paul Watson's gone over the cash and it's scans of passports. You name it. There's thousands of pages if it is a hoax
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It's an elaborate hoax
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Watson who's got a pretty good nose for these things thinks it's real
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at least most of it they they also mix garbage in and
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The reason I think it has credibility is it dovetails is something we've been covering for a year
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So he Alex is literally completely right the the you know, they mix in fake stuff
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Yeah
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But everything that surrounds that caveat is to get people to not think that's the case right Paul Watson
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He knows a lot about this stuff. He thinks it looks good. He's scanned over it
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It checks out if it's a hoax. It's an elaborate one, which is super unlikely guys, and you know what?
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I think it's credible because it matches up with things that I've said in the past which is support of Assad. Yeah
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it's like
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Man, you you just you you got tricked. Yeah, he went to bed
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He woke up the next day and was like I'm fucking running with it. I
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mean in his defense, I
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I don't know. I hate saying that but so the fuck did a lot of other people sure a lot of people got tricked
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I'm sure you know, I'm
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I don't have a scorecard of how yeah responded necessarily and all I'm interested in is Alex. Oh, yeah
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Fair and he did get tricked and it's really nice
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For me to have my instincts so clearly
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Really vindicated I think the fact that I'm listening to this I'm like, here we go and then Alex throws me a curveball
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By being like it's usually government sock puppets. It's not you know, hey, you're not gonna get killed who gives a fuck
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Don't worry about it kid. This colors real
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Looks good, you know, I gotta say so sorry. Sorry, dude, you shouldn't have sent us that I guess you're dead now
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by the way to like the
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The four fabricated document is fun is not good
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Like yeah the I if people did get tricked by it
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It's bad because it is just on its face pretty absurd
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Yeah, because part of it is an email that was sent about like hey
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We got to go ahead for false flag, basically. Oh
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Who would send that?
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So it's it's our contracts. It's the Antifa contracts all over exactly
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Okay, so even if other people did get tricked by it. They wanted to be tricked. Yeah, and Alex
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Scanning this and being like it checks out, you know, it looks pretty good
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It indicates that he looked at it was like we can work with this. Yeah
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so anyway
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The rest of the 28th is mostly Alex just saying oh, we're gonna get to calls and then ranting about nothing
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It's not worth listening. Well, he can't get to calls
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He's already sentenced one of his sources to death by ignoring him on day one that every every single
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Subsequent caller may be calling with relevant information. We got a body. I gotta gotta lay low
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Yeah, it's it's pretty crazy that episode was I mean there are moments that are kind of
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Bordering on entertaining because Alex is just stretching it out. It's the thinnest broth ever. It's just
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Just
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Constant nonsense
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But globalists want your guns. There's such standard stuff. We're not gonna listen to anything more of that and we are through the 28th
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Here and that's you know, I think I think that there's massive
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Progress here in this in this time span
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But also just like I look back at this episode and I think trash
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Not our episode, but looking back at like the experience of listening to all of these episodes
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It's just a wall of trash. Yeah, you got fucking Jerome Corsi and Alex hitting it off having a great time
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I think trash. Yeah, I
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Pharmacist Ben coming in Alex using him as a as a signpost to get people to stop taking their medication
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I think trash I haven't we get a caller who calls in with 4chan fucking documents. They're clearly fabricated
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Do not speak ill of the dead Dan. I'm sorry, but that's trash
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You got the fucking operation Paul Revere contest that ends with that 18-minute video that I had to watch
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Oh, that was trash trash. You got James O'Keefe showing up for the first time James existing as trash trash trash
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Everything sucks. I disagree with you on one point. What's that?
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I really did find it cute when he and Jerome Corsi got into that little thing there
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I was I I like seeing people excited about it. I'm not so jaded that I don't agree with
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There's something there's something to that
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I don't know why I'm just listening that going like you guys are having a great time, but it's like if you saw
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Lex Luthor and the Joker getting along really well or something like that. You see like that's a good point
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Like oh this doesn't bode well
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You see two people with ill will who are make a career out of tricking people, right?
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And you're like, oh well a couple of villains are getting along and that means they might combine their efforts
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Yeah, what was the lead the Legion of Doom from the 60s Justice League cartoon or whatever? Yeah, it's very Cobra
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Yeah, oh boy. So yeah, even that wow, there is a human lightness to it. Yes. It's ugly
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So all it is just trash to me and I listen to it, you know, like if you look at this, it's 24th 25th
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27th and 28th. What is that like 5 to 15 hours? Yeah of trash
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I had to listen to yeah, but it's worth it because
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You scatter that trash you kick it aside clean your room like Jordan Peterson to tell you to do sure
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What's left after you clean your room is?
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Alex
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rationalizing and pivoting on Sandy Hook on the 27th, and I think that that is
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is crucially important date that we have isolated which is Alex learning about that see ya CNN
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video with Anderson Anderson Cooper's nose
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Being the justification that he needs to say that things were fake
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And there were actors and so I think that's going to I think that we're gonna see a real the real fall-off a real
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Really big Alex being a piece of shit. I think that's coming real soon
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Man, god, I hate James O'Keefe
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Everybody everybody so far in this in our episode that you've curated has provided
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false evidence
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Yeah, yeah, they're all frauds. Yeah to the point of like crime
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Yeah, I think I think a lot of these people in a just world would not be free. Yeah Jerome Corsi
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Pharmacist Ben James O'Keefe. They all have been
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been massively
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irresponsible and betrayed the public trust
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And that's why Alex says that this show is a call College of Evil
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That actually does make three of their great professors that in a College of Evil that really does make perfect sense
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Yeah, they got tenure in that College Wow
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So maybe that out of context drop makes way more sense than Alex thinks it really does
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Yeah, so we come to the end of this and all I can say is we'll be back on Wednesday
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But until then we got a website we do it's knowledgefight.com. We also are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight
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I'm at go to bed Jordan. We are on Facebook. We are in Facebook are also on iTunes
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You could go there you various other places that
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Podcasts happen. Mm-hmm. I don't want to I don't want to say anything good about any of the people on the show
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No, none zero. There are no positives here
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There are no heroes. Wait, there was one hero wasn't there? I don't think so. Um
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Um, definitely not. Oh, yeah. No Sam Elliott for not doing the voiceover for that shitty commercial
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Okay for weird divorce weird device that could are you comfortable saying that Sam Elliott has never killed anybody?
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Oh, no trace Cowboys. Oh, yeah, I think yeah that maybe
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Who cares Sam Elliott's probably not killed anybody but one guy who technically has Alex Jones
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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
