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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first name caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jarden.
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We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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That is what we do!
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Dan, if you were going to sell somebody on this show, you wouldn't just be like, hey,
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it's two assholes talking about Alex Jones, right?
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I probably would, but I'm modest.
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Alright, fine, fine.
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You're the worst yes-ander in history, by the way.
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I never took an improv class.
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You're the worst at it.
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It's brutal, every time I'm like, Dan, answer me this question, and you're like, nah, fuck
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you.
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I know a lot about Alex Jones, you don't know anything about him.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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Today we are drinking Space Station Middle Finger by Three Floyds.
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Amen.
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Three Floyds, a great brewery here out of Chicago.
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Yep.
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So we would like to give the middle finger to the Space Station, or we would like to
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be on the Space Station giving the middle finger to Earth.
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Space Command.
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Space Command.
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Space Command and Spider Leadership.
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Middle finger right there.
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There we go, take it Spider Leadership.
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So Jordan, today-
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You don't even have a middle finger.
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Mm-mm.
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No, you got a middle leg.
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No, you don't.
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You have two middle legs.
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No, they don't.
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They don't.
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Yeah, even a number of legs.
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You can't even have middle legs.
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Ah, suck it Spiders.
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Yeah.
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That's our one true advantage.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We can at least give you a big fuck you.
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Yep.
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So we're going to be going over the January 21st and 22nd episodes of 2016 of Alex Jones.
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Okay, I briefly thought that it was January 21st and-
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No.
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You slept?
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You slept for a long time.
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I was like, holy shit, is it January already?
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It is not.
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Okay.
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We are in December here, but we're going to take a little trip into the past.
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All right.
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But before we do, we're coming up on about a year of doing this show.
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Indeed we are.
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We probably have another week or so after this week, so let me add two weeks.
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Uh-huh.
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We're going to be out of town for Christmas, I believe.
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You son of a bitch.
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Yeah, I got to probably go visit my brother.
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It's going to be weird when I'm doing the live show by myself, it'll just be a rambling
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monologue of things I hate.
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I think it'll appeal to some of our listeners though.
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I think some of them will enjoy the shit out of that.
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Just email me some clips and I'll play them, stare into your computer and be like, what
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are we doing guys?
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What the fuck are we doing?
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Specifically, what are we doing?
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What is life?
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But I wanted to take a second because it's easy to get caught up in how terrible things
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are and the world is a mess and things are scary.
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Agreed.
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All across the board.
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But I want to take a second to step back and really, I think we need to recognize a victory.
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Okay.
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That we have, I believe that what we've done, it's taken a year.
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You and me?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I believe that we've gotten to the bottom of Alex Jones.
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Not the big picture, but in terms of Trump, I really think that we have explored this
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in a way that no other organization has done.
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I think we've completed a remarkable feat of journalism.
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Perhaps exhaustively and maybe sometimes redundantly.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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The redundancies kind of reinforce the main points.
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But be that as it may, and I think at the end of this episode, I'll bring it full circle.
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I think, I didn't think a year ago when we started this, they're like, you know what?
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In 11 months, we'll sit down and we'll have a pretty good handle on what happened.
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Yeah.
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And I think we do.
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I would say so, yeah.
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I think it's pretty clear.
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Spiders.
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Absolutely.
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Spiders.
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I mean, I'm getting uncomfortable even in this moment because I'm saying positive stuff
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about us.
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Yeah, you're not good at that.
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I'm not.
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I'm not at all.
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But I think-
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Also, you should not be saying us.
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You did a great job.
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You did journalism.
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You're giving me credit for any kind of journalistic activity way off.
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But you and a couple of our listeners also who have been very collaborative in terms
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of finding things out and bouncing ideas off of, I couldn't have done any of that without
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you guys.
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So don't fucking sell yourself short in this.
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Granted, I have done way more work.
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I accept that.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Just accept that my job is dick jokes.
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But at the year's end, I don't feel a ton of, not interest.
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Interest isn't the right word.
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I don't feel a ton of curiosity about Alex Jones and Donald Trump anymore.
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Whereas when we started, that was something that really motivated me.
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This idea of this mystery that we need to solve.
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And to the extent that we've been able to figure out that Alex Jones had a underlying
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allegiance to Putin that existed before Donald Trump ever got involved, that he was the victim
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of an influence campaign wherein Russian bots inflated his traffic and confused him.
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And at the same time, Roger Stone and Steve Pachanik were lying to him and manipulating
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him with friendly narratives to get him to join up with Trump.
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That's the whole story, really, I think.
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And he thinks his mom was a dick to him.
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Then once you mix in bigotry and stuff like that and white fear, you have exactly the
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concoction that you need to get him into the position he's in now.
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And it's not really all that interesting to me anymore.
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So what I've been trying to do is I've been trying to sit down and think about what can
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be interesting again.
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As we go into year two, I don't know exactly what shape that's going to take.
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And granted, when we started the show, it was a couple months before we started getting
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into 2015, that investigation.
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So I don't feel a ton of pressure.
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But I think one of the things I'm going to do is I'm going to do much more work on Alex's
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primary sources.
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I believe that one of the guiding principles of year two is going to be debunking the things
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that he uses as the, what would you say, keystones in his argument.
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Ah, yes, the waystones that we have used before that he keeps going back to over and over
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again.
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Well, not so much the waystones, because those are like purple penguins and stuff like that.
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Those are little lies that he jumps from.
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You're talking about our Robert David Steeles.
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Not even that, because that guy's crazy.
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That guy is crazy.
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I will actually say that another thing I'm going to be doing in year two is getting much
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more in depth about the contributors.
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Yes.
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The people like Robert David Steeles.
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Right.
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And we're going to do a spinoff show about the Nation of Islam, right?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, my point is, I guess, I don't know what I'm doing.
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I don't know what I'm saying, but I want to...
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Your point is we're having a production meeting as we speak right now.
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We're Alex Jones-ing a production meeting on air.
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No.
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I set out to say, and I mean this, is I raise my glass in victory, I believe, in terms of
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sorting out Alex Jones' journey to Trump.
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Right.
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And now I lower my glass in recognition of a new journey to come.
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And I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be, but it'll be something devastating.
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That was a very poetic toast.
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Thank you.
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Well, let's get to 2016.
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That was like Bilbo Baggins' 11ty hundredth birthday, or 11tyth birthday.
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Or that scene from Blow.
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It could be like that scene from Blow, too.
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May the wind always be at your back.
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So let's get to 2016, Jordan.
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Yes.
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January, 2016.
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Alex Jones...
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Or as I like to call it, January.
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Sure.
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See.
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So Alex has already switched over to Trump.
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In the middle to end of December of 2015, Roger Stone has shown up as a more frequent
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supporter, and Alex has said as much as it's Trump or die, and he's drifted away from politics
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a little bit.
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Right.
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He's drifted into a lot more of his cultural narratives and stuff like that, but as we
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get to the end of January, you start to see a little bit of trouble.
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Yeah.
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And...
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Quick question, before you get into your first clip.
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Please.
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I'm doing this before you say, and now we're going to get into our first clip, and that
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way I don't interrupt you and frustrate you.
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So I'm going to get there before you start the transition.
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That's what I've learned over this 11 months.
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That's right neighborly of you.
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Do you think, and just from what we know, has Roger Stone ever gotten drunk and tried
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to make his Richard Nixon tattoo talk to people?
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Yes.
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Of course, right?
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1000%.
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He's moved his shoulders a bunch and tried to make its mouth move, right?
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Yeah.
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The things that I've started to learn about Roger Stone's past that we had just sort of
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taken as read, sort of implied that he has a bunch of shady shit in his past.
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It's insane to think that he was...
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I don't judge him for being a libertine or anything like that, but the extent to which
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he was out there, there's no way he didn't try and make his tattoo talk.
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Next question.
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He got fired from a campaign, I can't remember, I think it was Reagan, because he got caught
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trying to solicit a well-hung dude to swing with him and his wife in a newspaper.
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I feel like that's not an issue.
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I don't care if he did that either.
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I don't really...
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Do what you want to do, man.
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But then he said that it wasn't him and someone else was making a prank, and then later he's
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like, nah, it was me.
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Yeah, fucking go for it, man.
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Own up to it.
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But you know what I'm saying.
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Second question.
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Have you read Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone?
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Have not.
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Okay.
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The climax of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone has us discovering that Voldemort has
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been living inside of Professor Buh and his head is like out the back of his head, right?
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So the face in front is Professor Buh, and then...
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I get what you're trying to say here.
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Is Richard Nixon still alive, Dan?
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Yes, he lives in the ink in the tattoos.
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I knew it.
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Absolutely.
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I fucking knew it.
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It's also relevant to season five of Heroes.
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Maybe four?
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I don't remember.
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I don't know what season comes around.
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That girl can make prophetic tattoos on people?
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It's a good thing the chat room isn't with us today.
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They would be going after your heart on that.
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That season wasn't reasonable.
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Anyway, let's start with an out of context drop from Alex Jones.
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I'm dead inside.
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We agree.
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We know.
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I was halfway expecting you to just end it after I'm dead and I'd be like, yeah, okay.
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He's been a ghost this whole time.
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So Jordan, today we have two discrete episodes.
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Three years ago this day, Alex Jones was struck by a bolt of lightning, died, and then rose
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again to lie about Trump.
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To lie about everything.
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Everything.
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So, Jordan, today, like I said, we have two episodes that are very distinct in character.
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The first episode is full of grab bag lies.
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And then the second episode, January 22nd, the first one's January 21st, he gets into
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a very specific narrative that I think he exposes himself on real hard due to the confrontation
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of a caller.
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And we have an interesting breakdown to do there, but we've got to start.
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We do this always chronologically, no jumping around, try and mix up Alex's words and make
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him seem like he's saying something he didn't say, except for the out of context drops.
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He's crazy enough for us to enjoy.
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Chronologically.
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We're going to start with a clip from January 21st and, hey, you're going to get angry up
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top.
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Great.
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We've done the math.
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If there's 6,000 superclass in the world, according to Henry Kissinger and Rothkop and
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the Kissinger Group, which I agree with, that's top technicians, top billionaires.
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This is, just to give you some context, Alex Jones believes there's 6,000 globalists in
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the world.
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He said this before.
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I did not know that.
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And yeah, he said that he believes that the ranks of the globalists are about 6,000.
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So he's a globalist witness, is what you're saying.
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Only 6,000 going to get home is what he's saying.
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Well, no, because some of them are compartmentalized and they think they're on a higher level than
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they actually are.
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All right.
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No, no, no, no, thank you.
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This isn't the part you're going to get angry about.
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No, now I'm mathematically frustrated.
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It's going to get worse.
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And then above them, just a few families that control that, if you add 6,000 people and
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then say they have half the wealth of the planet and you divide that out, the numbers,
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I forget, was it nine or ten zeros?
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Zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero.
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And then I think it was two, three.
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But you can do the math.
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I mean, you can look at different estimations of world wealth and then just divide 6,000
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people.
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But we'll first cut that wealth in half and then divide that number 6,000 into that.
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And then you get a basic percentage point.
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We're not talking about the 1%, we're not talking about the 2%.
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The 1% are the people that own a big boat at the harbor.
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They're the people that get their hair done, the people that buy cars, the people that
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buy curtains.
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They're the people that put their kids through college.
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They're the folks that build companies.
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They're the drivers of society.
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They're the Renaissance.
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And let me tell you, they're an endangered species, just like the Great Plains buffalo.
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All of them.
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Once there were many, now they're down to about a third of what they were in the 50s,
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all over the world, from Japan to the US, and soon they'll be gone.
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And you'll have a tiny, tiny percentage of people that have basically everything.
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And this is in the age of liberalism, the age of high taxes.
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So I think I figured this was going to make you really mad.
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It's more a frustrating word problem in geometry.
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That's what I'm really struggling with here.
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Like it's algebra, like okay, if 6,000 people are on a train going from the globalist empire
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to fucking America, how many of them will ruin the Renaissance or whatever the fuck
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he's talking about?
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Right.
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Insane.
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You know, when Alex is saying-
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Also, he's wrong about all of this stuff.
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The 50s, the billionaires have only shot up in number because of the taxes dropping in
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the 80s.
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He's got this completely backwards.
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He's right that the middle class roles, let's say, have dwindled.
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The number of people-
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Now only eight people have half the wealth of the entire fucking world.
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You could make the argument that the middle class realistically has shrunk.
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Has died.
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But you can't really say that the upper class has shrunk.
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There's more consolidation.
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To be in this 1% of earners, earners, in heavy quotations-
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Is to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
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But that's not you have a boat, Alex, boats.
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Good reference.
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Alex has multiple boats.
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Good reference though.
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That's the first thing that comes to mind.
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He's talking about himself.
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1%.
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He's talking about himself.
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We are the Renaissance.
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He provides jobs.
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Sure.
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He provides jobs for people who are never going to get jobs anywhere else again.
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But then his other examples are like, they have haircuts.
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That's a good one.
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They put their kids through school and stuff like that.
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Well, yeah, but that's only because they're the 1%.
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The rest of us can't put our kids through school.
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You know, to be considered in 1%, you're making millions of dollars.
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That's not middle class.
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He likes to present it as like, if you make $100,000, you're in the 1%.
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That's not where the cutoff is, baby.
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Where is the cutoff?
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I feel like the cutoff isn't as far away from that as you might imagine.
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It's in the millions.
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I don't think so.
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The 1%?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I don't think so.
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I think it's like $1.2 million, like something like that.
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Like because the...
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No, no, but that's in the millions.
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Because the...
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Okay, fine.
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Fine, fair enough.
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Right, right.
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I thought you...
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Like, millions suggest to me like, larger than three.
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Well, the difficulty too comes into like, net worth versus fluid worth and accessible
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capital and stuff like that.
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But be that as it may, he's not...
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It's not people who are like, just have a good job and get their hair cut.
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That's not the issue.
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He's conflating all sorts of things about it.
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But it's a brilliant thing to say, because then your listeners, if you go, oh, people
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put their kids through school and do all of that shit, they're like, well, I do that,
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so I'm in the top 1%.
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If I'm in the top 1%, I want policies that support the top 1%.
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Right, right.
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That makes sense.
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Yeah, they get tax cuts, I'm gonna get one too.
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Yeah, I'm just as rich as they are.
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Right.
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And then you discover, no, you're poor, and they're fucking you over, and they have been
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for the past 40,000 fucking years.
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It's kind of a fun shell game in some ways, but it's just interesting to me, anytime someone
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is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, those really rich people, they're the Renaissance.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
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That's like...
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They're definitely not choking the Renaissance to death, sucking every fucking little piece
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of lifeblood out of this goddamn planet they can before they fucking die and leave the
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rest of us to burn.
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So Alex has a lot of thoughts about the times being better in the past and what have you,
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which is...
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Yeah, which he can go fuck himself there.
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But it's real fun to remember that right now when you have Roy Moore probably gonna win
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this week, having come out and literally said times were better in slavery days.
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Like, what the fuck?
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Dude.
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That's...
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Like, you know...
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All that's happening is he's just making the subtext text.
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That's the ultimate truth...
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And that's why he's the perfect Infowars candidate.
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Exactly.
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The ultimate truth of Trump's election is just, why were we dog whistling?
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Shouldn't we have just whistled?
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Subtlety is hard.
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Yeah, it's lame too.
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Everybody really just wants us to be like, racism is cool.
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Right.
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Anyway.
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We're the new counterculture, Dan.
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Yeah.
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And to some extent.
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I know.
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It does take bravery to be an out-and-out racist who should die in public.
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I'm proud of all of them.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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Good for you guys.
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So here's this next...
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You're really sacked up on this one.
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Here's where Alex Jones harkens back to the past again in a very weird way.
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But here's the New York Times.
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America's best days may be behind it, and they have a picture of Mary Tyler Moore looking
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young and devastatingly good looking.
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I watched a woman like her in her youth, but that to me is a good looking woman right there.
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But I digress.
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I'm just admiring God's creatures.
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So we'll get back to that in a second.
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If you take pictures of Mary Tyler Moore and put them up next to pictures of Leanne McAdoo,
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there's a pretty similar look in the two of them.
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They have a lot of facial similarities.
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Okay.
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But...
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It's interesting.
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I'm gonna go off the picture that is on...
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The only picture I've ever seen of Leanne McAdoo is the one that you actually just posted
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on the website recently.
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Nah, you've seen more than that.
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And let me tell you something.
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There's one huge difference between Mary Tyler Moore and Leanne McAdoo.
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Maybe two.
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But be that as it may, I think that the fact that he's bringing her up and being like,
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ah, that's a hot woman.
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Like, in the middle of his political show, ostensibly...
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Yeah, but objectifying women is part of his politics.
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It leads me to believe that there's literally no way he's never made a pass at Leanne McAdoo.
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Like, she looks a lot like Mary Tyler Moore, and Alex Jones has just come on air and said,
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Mary Tyler Moore.
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Throw her back in the day.
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And then he just came on air.
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Right.
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He did.
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So anyway.
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Take a look back at some of the most popular TV programs in the 60s.
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The Dick Van Dyke Show, Bewitched, and even Beverly Hillbillies, and what do you see?
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No black people.
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And it goes on to describe all the happiness and all the goodness and then per capita income
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mirroring what you saw.
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But see, that's when men and women work together.
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We've all been taught to fight with each other now.
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I would like to pause...
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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That's when men...
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How many women were on the writing staff of Dick fucking Van Dyke?
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And I would like to pause at this very important clarification.
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The entire storyline of Mary Tyler Moore was about how crazy it is that a woman is working.
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Yeah!
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Yeah!
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That was when they worked together to figure out what the fuck was going wrong with women
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being allowed to work.
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Bewitched, the entire story is about an enslaved genie lady.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's I dream of genie.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Bewitched is about an entire...
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It's about an enslaved witch.
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Right, right.
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As opposed to...
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But she's just the wife.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Exactly.
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Enslaved domestically.
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Excuse me, ma'am.
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Do whatever it is I say.
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I apologize for my confusion there.
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Yeah.
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Also, Elizabeth Montgomery.
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Oh, my God.
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What a great looking woman.
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Still.
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Now, and to be losers.
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And we have all these regulations and we shipped our jobs to China and India.
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We got screwed over.
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We trusted the system.
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What made America great was not trusting the system and sticking together and having local
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government.
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That's all gone now.
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We all remember those great Nick at Night TV land episodes where they didn't question
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the government, where Dick Van Dyke was a conspiracy theorist.
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Mary Tyler Moore was like, oh, got to get this fluoride out of the water.
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We all remember how anti-system those were.
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Oh, man.
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I remember Healy.
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I Dream of Jeannie.
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You know, that whole military subplot in it.
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Sure.
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So stupid.
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Oh, man.
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Those shows are the most-
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Americana.
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Those are the shows that are the most reinforcing of the status quo.
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Oh, yeah.
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It doesn't get much.
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It doesn't get much more implicitly racist than those shows.
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And misogynist.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Even Mary Tyler Moore, to the extent that it was about a woman going out on her own
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and having a job in a male-dominated atmosphere, there's still a ton of shit in that show that
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is recklessly chauvinistic.
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And some of it done and played for effect, but at the same time.
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And frankly, that's still fucking alive and well.
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Ted Knight should never have been a character on television.
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Last night I did a show in Freeport fucking Illinois about-
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God's country.
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However far away from Rockford.
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And before the show started, one of the people in the crowd was sitting at the bar, crowd,
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I say seven people.
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Right.
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He was sitting at the bar with his girlfriend or wife or whatever the fuck it was.
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I've heard that Three's Company 4 is a crowd, so seven.
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That's a huge crowd.
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Seven's a huge crowd.
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Yeah.
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And he's-
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You know what?
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Prosperity was great back when Three's Company was on.
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He's like, I hope you guys are funny because the last time I was here, there was this lady
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comic who needed to get punched in the mouth.
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Sure.
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And you're like, okay, great.
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I hope you get fucking murdered in the mouth.
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I don't care.
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You're the worst.
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Okay.
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It's 2017.
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That's not how you deal with problems.
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No, especially not-
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You use knives or guns, Dan.
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We've evolved.
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Especially not comedy problems.
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I don't like these jokes.
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I better punch that lady.
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That's a very-
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That's a mess.
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Yeah.
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We're living in a great world, Dan.
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So after this point where Alex has hearkened back to an imaginary past that didn't exist
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and misrepresented it, he jumps over to an interesting narrative that he throws around
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a lot, and I don't think we've really taken the time to get into.
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So we shall now, and it has to do with one of Alex's favorite enemy, the chai comms.
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Ooh, those chai comms.
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We need to be angry.
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We need to be upset.
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We need to be in the system's face saying, we know you're criminals.
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One thing Donald Trump says that is not true, we got the Donald Trump news coming up in
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the next segment, there's a lot of it, is he says, we have stupid leaders.
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We have idiot negotiators.
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We have people screwing America over, making nothing but bad deals.
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No, there have been global combine meetings, many of which have been leaked, many of which
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Judicial Watch and others have sued and gotten, at these North American Union and other global
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confabs where we learn what happens.
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Agreements were made to give China rare earth minerals worldwide.
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That's why they get 97% of rare earth minerals.
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That's just a snapshot.
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Google it.
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I'm not kidding.
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China gets 97% of rare earth minerals.
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So whenever Alex says Google it, that's my cue to look into something that he's clearly
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lying about.
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Yeah.
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So one of the things that's actually really interesting is that Alex, in the past, was
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correct.
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He needs to update his statistics.
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But there was a time in fairly recent memory where China was responsible for and had their
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hand in 97% of rare earth mineral sales, the market of rare earth minerals.
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They only had control over something to the tune of 30% of the world's rare earth minerals.
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There are mines in California, Australia, all over the place.
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But the issue is that those mines were not feasible.
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We could very easily get our own rare earth minerals from, you know, in California, other
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places.
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But it would cost more.
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Well, that is part of it.
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And it's so fucking hard to get rare earth minerals.
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I don't understand.
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Then why would you call them rare?
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Oh, no.
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Now I get it.
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They're not that rare.
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They become rare.
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It's a misnomer, slightly.
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They're rare because of the difficulty in getting them.
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Right.
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No, that's what rare means.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But they're plentiful in the crust of the earth.
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It's just that once you get it out and make them usable, they become rare.
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But also the process is crazy polluting.
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It's insanely polluting.
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And for the last couple of decades, China has much laxer environmental standards for
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their businesses.
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And so as we came into the modern age and the EPA got strengthened underneath Clinton,
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underneath Bush.
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Do you mean destroyed prosperity?
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Right.
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All of these presidents have, you know, boosted EPA standards until currently.
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It became a thing where it was just not feasible and it wasn't worth it.
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China was producing these things in a way that was environmentally unsound, but they
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produced them in such a way that we could buy all we needed from them was no big deal.
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Let me explain to you here.
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This is from an article in Gizmodo where they get into the extraction of rare earth minerals.
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I'm just going to read you how you have to get them out of the earth.
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This is going to be riveting stuff.
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The first step in extracting rare earth oxides from the surrounding rock is to crush the
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rocks and grind them into a fine powder.
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This is passed through a series of tanks where the rare earth elements float to the top.
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Could you read this in the voice of like the Discovery Channel's How It Gets Made?
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Nope.
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Unwanted minerals sink to the bottom and this hazardous waste material called tailings is
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sent to ponds for storage.
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Meanwhile, the resulting concentrate of rare earth metals is roasted in kilns and then
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dissolved in acid.
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The fraction of the resulting slush that contains rare earths in the form of mixed metal oxides
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is removed.
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And finally, a solvent is neutralized.
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The reaction generates a lot of salt.
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When the Mountain Pass mine in California was running at full capacity in the 1990s,
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it produced as much as 850 gallons of salty waste water every minute, every day of the
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year.
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This waste was contained, also contained radioactive thorium and uranium, which collected a scale
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inside the pipe that delivered the waste water to evaporation ponds 11 miles away.
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Several times in the 1990s, cleaning operations intended to remove the built-up scale caused
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the pipeline to burst, spilling hundreds of thousands of gallons of hazardous waste into
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the desert.
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The state of California ordered Molycor, which was then a unit of the oil company Unical.
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Molycorp?
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Molycorp.
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Molycorp.
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Okay.
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I thought that was like a punk band, you know, or a type.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's like an E-based, MDMA-based punk band, you know?
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They're really Molycorp.
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Right.
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That is a genre.
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That's gotta be.
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Isn't that Zach Braff's movies?
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Aren't those Molycorp?
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I would say so.
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Yeah.
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So they were ordered to clean up the waste.
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In 2002, the company, already struggling to make a profit, ran out of space to store
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its tailings and failed to secure a permit to build a new storage facility.
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The mine shut down.
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So it's just an incredibly hard process.
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So what you just described to me is even worse than fracking in the Keystone Pipeline.
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More or less, yeah.
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You're saying that it's impossible to get all this shit without killing all of that
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shit.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's basically what you described.
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Basically, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's very...
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And experts know that.
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Yeah.
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Well, yeah.
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That's why they're fucking experts.
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So now the fear became in 2010, in September of 2010, there came on a very severe fear
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that people started to realize that China has control of almost all the trade of these
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rare earth minerals.
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Right.
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And as we know from Trump's policies, monopolies are great.
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They work out well for everybody, right?
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Well, see, the thing is, no.
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But also, these minerals are needed for components in a lot of electronics, some military hardware,
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and stuff like that.
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So it's not like we can do without them.
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No, of course.
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So there was a maritime...
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Like nickel and gold are some of the best things to put inside your fucking phone.
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That's why so many phones are made, you know.
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But rare earth minerals aren't things like that.
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Oh, it's more like a...
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You don't know the names of any of these metals.
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They're insane.
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Give me some metal names.
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I had a list pulled up, but it doesn't matter.
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Iron Maiden.
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I know those names.
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It's not metals you've ever heard of.
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Okay.
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Give me one metal.
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Death metal.
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I've heard of death metal.
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So here's the thing.
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I just want one metal.
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Come on, give me one metal.
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There's like calatite, stuff like that.
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Oh, who doesn't know calatite?
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Shut up.
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It's from Cali.
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Fuck off.
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Red Hot Chili Peppers has a song represented.
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So there was a maritime dispute in September 2010.
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A beautiful woman named calatite.
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Japan detained the captain of a Chinese fishing trawler, which had collided with two Japanese
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Coast Guard vessels.
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China responded by announcing that it would halt all shipments of rare earth elements
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to Japan, which used the imported metals in several high tech industries.
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So they used it like a big dick.
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Right.
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Japan immediately released the Chinese fishing captain.
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The New York Times declared that it was a humiliating retreat for Tokyo.
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So at this point, everybody started to get really scared about the idea that China could
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now flout any rules that they want and be like, fine, you don't get any of our metals.
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Yeah, monopolies are great.
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And the issue became if we wanted to start extracting from California or from these other
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countries that are much more friendly, like Australia.
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We would have to kill the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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We'd have to do that.
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That's the first step.
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We would pollute the environment.
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Into all of my plans.
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We'd pollute the environment terribly.
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And a report from the Government Accountability Office warned that, quote, rebuilding the
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U.S. rare earth supply chain may take up to 15 years.
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And so it became a thing where, like, fuck, China has this massive weapon against us.
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And Alex thinks that's the case.
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Right.
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It's not.
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And there's a number of reasons for that.
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It didn't work out.
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This whole idea that China was going to be able to restrict the supply and cut off all
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rare earth elements to everywhere, it hasn't materialized since then.
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They haven't made these threats.
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And even the blockade in Japan wouldn't have worked for a number of reasons.
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The first of which is that there's tons of small mining corporations, companies within
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China that aren't controlled by the state that are operating fairly illegally.
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They're going to scab.
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But yeah, they export currently 20,000 to 30,000 tons of rare earth minerals every year,
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which would be enough for the United States to cover all of the things of course that
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they need further.
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We really don't need much of it.
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And we have a bunch that we've already bought.
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And if we could recycle it effectively, we wouldn't need much of it ever.
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Right.
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Right.
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I mean, no, no, no.
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Like we can recycle it effectively.
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We just don't like if if every time you got a new phone, you recycled your own phone.
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Right.
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And that is a new phone.
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Like that is how much of that rare earth metal and mineral kind of stuff that we need.
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You can recycle it almost to 100 percent.
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Well, now you're bringing up a phone.
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It only takes a few grams of this metal called neodymium.
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Oh, I know that one really.
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Sure.
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In order to have all you need for the phone.
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Exactly.
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And so it's a very, very, very small amount.
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Even when you consider the number of phones, it's really not that much.
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And that's why there's so many O.D.s whenever people snort it because you don't need that
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much to get a good high.
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That's true.
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It's absolutely true.
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You need a neodymium bag.
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So.
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All right.
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All right.
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Beyond that, companies.
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Come on now.
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Stop it.
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So beyond that, in in the wake of the 2010 standoff, if you want to even call it that
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with Japan.
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Yeah.
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Companies like Molycore's division, Magnaquench, started looking into.
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I'm sorry, say that name one more time.
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Magnaquench.
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All right.
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That's good stuff.
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That's a good start up.
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Great flavor is what that is.
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Sure.
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So they started to find ways to make the same products without using rare earth minerals.
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And there was a bunch of success in that.
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So the demand started to go down even without any worry of this really.
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A lot of the times, if you limit resources necessary to make something, the necessity
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of making it requires an innovation to get around that.
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Yeah.
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And that will, on average, work out eventually.
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And then also just a bunch of other people in countries like Canada, South Africa, Kazakhstan,
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Malaysia.
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They've started doing very environmentally unfriendly mining in order to sort of.
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You know it's environmentally unfriendly if Kazakhstan makes the list.
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Well, but yeah.
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Like top countries, if Kazakhstan is in that list, it's not going to be good for the environment.
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So at this point in 2017, the power of and the percentage is not 97 percent anymore.
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But Alex is citing old statistics and not giving any context into why did it get to
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that point.
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Right.
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And what has happened since.
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Right.
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He's still operating in a 2010 mentality where he's afraid that the Chinese are going to
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just say, fuck it, you guys don't get any rare earth metals anymore and there's nothing
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we can do.
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Right.
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That's not at all the case.
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The embargo threat is completely empty.
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It's nonsense.
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So there's that.
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Alex is dumb.
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Anyway, let's get to it.
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There is that.
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Let's go to the next clip where he talks more about how China sucks and then we'll explore
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these ideas.
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If a U.S. company tries to go anywhere in the world and get rare earth minerals, the
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federal government sues them, shuts them down, won't let them import it.
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That's a whole nother scandal.
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You think they're just shutting off our coal plants?
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You think they're just setting up internal tariffs with regulations to make our jobs
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go to China?
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They're hitting us on thousands of precision warfare, economic fronts.
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I get chills when I talk about this.
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I mean, holding this country down has been incredibly hard for the globalists, but they've
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done it while using all our money to build a giant military that fights to build the
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world government.
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And then we get the blame.
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China gets all of our major deepwater ports east and west coast.
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China gets the Panama Canal for free.
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We built it.
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We run it.
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The only passage from the Atlantic into the Pacific, other than going around the horn,
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we give them something worth estimated five trillion dollars in a treaty.
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In 1979, and then it's transferred in 2000 and Congress couldn't even stop it.
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Can we just keep going forever?
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Our last lead smelting plant closed.
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We can't even produce bullets in America.
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Thank God.
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So we'll never get them now.
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China doesn't really own the Panama Canal, but they bought some ports around the sides.
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If I remember correctly, I'm not sure if we do own the Panama Canal, but I know we're
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not supposed to.
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Not anymore.
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Right.
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There was a time frame.
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We were supposed to give up control of it, I think fairly recently.
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I'm not sure if we did that or not.
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I feel like I remember reading news where it was like, yeah, we were supposed to do
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that, but we're kind of America, so we're not.
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Here's an article from a place called The Trumpet about this.
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For more than 100 years, the Panama Canal has controlled the bulk goods transferred
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from the Pacific to Atlantic.
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For most of that history, this monumental feat of engineering was under the control
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of the United States, but this is no longer the case.
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In May, Panama's largest port was purchased by a Chinese company called Landbridge Group.
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Margarita Island Port on the canal's Atlantic side offers the company intimate access to
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one of the most important goods distribution centers in the world.
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While promising to upgrade the ailing Panama facilities and offer more trade with America's
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distant East Coast, there is substantial reason to hesitate at the purchase of such a critical
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hub, and that isn't just in the dangers of them shutting it down, but they're not going
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to do that.
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That's absurd.
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Nobody would do that.
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No.
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It would be...
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It would be World War III.
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It would be an act of war, first of all, and it's not in their economic interests.
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No.
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There's literally no reason to do that.
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Rather than just fucking shit up.
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So now to the idea that we just gave it to them, it's nonsense.
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This company has signed a $900 million deal to control Panama's Margarita Island Port.
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With Jimmy Buffett.
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Right.
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He was an angel investor in that.
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Right.
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They bought it.
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Now, whether $900 million is too little for something that could be worth in the billions,
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that's an issue for whoever sold it, and I don't really care.
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Now to the issue at the end there, Alex is telling us that we can't even create bullets
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in America anymore.
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That's really sad.
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That's a tragedy.
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That's really sad.
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Where will we get our bullets from, Dan?
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I've pulled up four companies, a very easy Google search, that sell American-made bullets.
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Okay.
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Reddingreloading.com, R-E-D-D-I-N-G dash reloading dot com.
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If you go to their website, they have a very large made in the USA thing at the bottom
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of the page.
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Oh, and on the top of the page, in their banner, made in the USA.
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Sounds right.
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Vector bullets is another one.
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Right here, as soon as you open up the website, vectorbullets.com, made in the USA, prominently
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displayed on the thing.
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You got another one here, precision ammunition dot com.
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They're located out of Charleston, South Carolina.
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That's their contact information.
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If you go into their About Us page, they talk about how all of their bullets are created
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in-house at their facility.
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Okay.
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Before you go any further, though...
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I have one more.
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I have one more.
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Okay.
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I'm sorry.
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Shop Corbin, S-H-O-P-C-O-R-B-O-N dot com, if you go there, and their About Me page.
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Proudly, we are still an American family-owned and operated business.
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As a family of shooters, we at Corbin understand your needs.
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They have another made in America thing here.
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Where is it?
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I've lost it in terms of this paragraph.
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But yeah, they make their own bullets, and what have you.
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Now, here is the...
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Oh, wait, there's another one.
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Here's the only difference I'll give to Alex.
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Sorry, another one, freedomammunitions.com.
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Gross.
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Freedom Ammunitions is proud to offer high quality new and remanufactured ammunition,
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utilizing the highest grade components available, and a big old Made in America sticker.
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And ooh, there's even pictures of them making the ammunition at their warehouse.
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Or I don't know if it's a warehouse, but you know, whatever.
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All of our Freedom Munitions ammo is loaded on the Ammo Load Mark X and Mark L. We make
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these in-house.
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All of our ammunition is manufactured in-house at our factory in Idaho.
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Here is my defense to Alex on this one.
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This will be fun.
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If his argument is that it is a lead smelting issue, simply because the bullets are made
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in America does not necessarily mean that the raw materials come from America.
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I'm so glad you brought that up.
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Dan, are you glad I brought that up?
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Yes.
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All right.
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In 2014, and this is absolutely what Alex is operating off of, a chain email went around.
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Okay.
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So when you say chain email, I say...
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Grandma.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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There was a chain email that said, we, the American public, have been blindsided again
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by the Obama crowd.
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Last lead smelting plant gone.
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The email goes on to blame the evil protection agency.
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That's the environmental protection agency.
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These guys are clever.
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They're shutting down the last smelting plant, calling it a backdoor gun control and saying
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it will result in the cost of bullets soaring.
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So this is in reference to a place called the Doe Run lead smelting plant in Herculaneum,
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Missouri.
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That's another rare earth metal.
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Herculaneum?
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Yeah.
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I'm sure Missourians don't pronounce it that way either.
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I can't even imagine how they twang that shit up.
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And I say that as a Missourian, so I am in good territory.
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But if you're still in Missouri, all right.
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So the issue is that this was the last lead smelting plant in the United States.
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And it did close during the Obama administration.
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But it is unclear that the EPA actually had anything to do with it, because the EPA made
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a bunch of complaints, and they fined them a bit.
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They fixed up the stuff that they needed to fix up, and then a couple years later they
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closed down.
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There's no indication necessarily that they needed to shut down because of EPA regulation.
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It could just be like this isn't viable anymore.
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So the issue is 80% of all lead produced in the United States is used for vehicle batteries,
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basically, or stationary batteries.
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Now the Doe Run smelter...
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The other 20% is for the paint that I had on my walls growing up.
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Or Flint's water, which we'll get to in a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Oh, God damn it.
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We'll get to that in a little bit.
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Fuck.
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So Alex doesn't deal with the reality of this Doe Run smelting plant.
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They closed down their primary smelter, and that is what takes ore and turns it into metal.
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A smelter.
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Right.
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That is very polluting, it is very costly, taking ore and turning it into metal.
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What is much cheaper and not as pollutant is a secondary smelter.
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A smelter that takes lead and turns it into other lead.
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Takes batteries and recycles them into lead.
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So are you saying that recycling is cheaper and effective?
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And the company is still running using their secondary smelter.
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Wait, what?
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And a lot of them still do exist.
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A bunch of this is, you know, in the U.S. the recycle rate of these batteries is approximately
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98%, making lead-based batteries the most highly recycled consumer product, the company
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said in a statement.
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These batteries are recycled at secondary lead smelters.
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We own such a smelter in southern Missouri.
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In our previous fact check, this is from PolitiFact, Doe Run spokesman Tammy Stanky, I like that.
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All right.
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Doe Run spokesman Tammy Stanky.
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Told us that the company, quote, will continue to supply our ammo customers using secondary
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lead, which is great.
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So Alex's narratives are completely busted.
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You know, but it's not as effective as primary lead.
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Yes it is.
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No, no, no, no.
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You can only make bullets, you can only make the good bullets out of primary lead.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You can't cut it with battery bullshit.
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You got to get it straight from the ground.
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So they checked back in with Stanky again.
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Yeah, all right.
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This is in reference to...
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Stanky was one of Fat Albert's friends, right?
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So what she said was, our primary smelter did close, but we are still supplying ammo
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customers through our secondary smelter.
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We do know that primary lead is still being imported to the United States, but we don't
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know if it's specific to ammunition suppliers.
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There are many other uses of lead.
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So Alex is just fucking lying through his teeth.
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The idea that China owns and is somehow going to threaten us through the Panama Canal is
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nonsense.
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Right.
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The idea that they own a monopoly on rare earth minerals and somehow that's a threat
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is nonsense.
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The idea that we don't make bullets in America is fucking stupid and based off a chain email.
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He's so dumb.
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Yeah.
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It's amazing.
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He's almost as dumb as everyone you know.
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This is where I get so excited.
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When things like this happen, I'm like, oh, this is all wrong.
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I just get like, this is why we do the show.
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Yeah.
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I sink my teeth into something.
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There are some bullet points that are wrong.
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All right.
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There we go.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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So here's the next clip where Alex says something that thanks to our investigation into 2015,
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we know he's being a hypocrite.
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Trump has now come out and responded to Glenn Beck, who's constantly attacking him, saying
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he's a Hillary plant.
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I see no evidence of that.
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Well, you did.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He spent the better part of six months saying he's a Hillary Clinton plant.
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Pretty much.
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Yeah.
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So here's the next one where Alex gets really hypocritical about his feelings about Trump.
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And you can just see indications that as of the beginning of 2016, something fundamental
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has changed because it's not just like, I've decided I like him.
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It's retconning all of the past.
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Right.
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But Trump's now history.
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He's got the whole establishment against him.
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Even if he hasn't been perfect in the past, he wants to be president.
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He wants to be the guy that's the turnaround executive that helps save America.
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And that's not in the globalist plan.
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So look for him to blow up his airplane or shoot him or, you know, put dead bodies in
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his backyard.
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He's a child molester.
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I mean, get ready, folks.
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They're going to pull out the stops.
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Say he's a mafia Don who knows like people are really.
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So that's somebody's going to say he's a mafia Don.
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I can't imagine anybody saying that just for fun.
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Let's go back to July 3rd, 2015.
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You go and you show at the university four or five palace size houses, 40 million, 13
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million, you name it, and you say, is this Donald Trump's?
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Everybody thinks he's the richest guy.
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The guy's literally nothing.
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Kind of just a front man.
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For some consortiums on the East Coast, I'll leave it at that.
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Oh, yeah.
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Trump's piece of work, folks.
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And they go in there.
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It's just mind blowing.
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I don't know what to say.
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So let's get to this other clip from July 12th, 2015.
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Gambling if you want to do it is your issue.
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But Donald Trump owns a bunch of casinos.
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Donald Trump's involved in a bunch of stuff.
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He's basically a front man for some very hard core people.
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And he gives tons of money to the Democratic Party, more to Democrats than Republicans
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in the last 30 years.
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So you can bet this is all his phony $3 bill.
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And Donald Trump, I have a high level sources is.
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Well, let's just say with a name like Trump, they don't come after you with a name like
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Carleone.
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Don Trump will be back.
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Stay with us.
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I'm Alex Jones.
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You want the truth?
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Can you handle it?
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You're going to get it.
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So interesting.
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I would hate for the globalists to call him a coffee of Don.
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They would do it, too.
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They wouldn't even stop.
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They wouldn't even have the regular human decency to not call him a Don.
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Don Trump.
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They would never, they would never hold back.
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Are you ready for the truth?
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Can you handle it?
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I can handle it.
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What an asshole.
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What an idiot.
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So fucking stupid.
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Why does he leave these shows up?
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That's the one mystery I want to get to the bottom of.
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I wrestle with this a lot.
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Do you not know that nothing you, well, the only thing that I can think of is he knows
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nothing he says means anything, so fucking why not?
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I think there's two things.
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One, he wouldn't count on an enemy like me who would listen back.
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Yeah, because you're insane.
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Right.
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So that's one thing.
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He doesn't, he doesn't.
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He wouldn't count on a superhero to counteract his super villain.
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This is like, this is like the movie Unbreakable, Dan.
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You're Bruce Willis.
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I'm okay with that.
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But you'd be played by.
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Be careful.
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So the thing, the other thing I think he's, he relies.
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Kevin Smith.
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All right.
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Nevermind.
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All right.
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I'm going to get out of here.
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I never wear jorts.
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I'm just kidding with you.
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But the same thing he does when he says like, go read this book, go Google it.
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Yeah.
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He knows that no one's going to do it.
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And so he has that same confidence in like, I don't care if all these episodes are up.
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No one's going to listen to this.
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It's three fucking hours long.
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Right, right, right.
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This is ridiculous.
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What kind of crazy person would listen back to see what I said?
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Exactly.
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And it's fucking, it's so crazy just to be completely, literally contradicting yourself
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within the span of six months.
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Like, foundational.
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Yeah.
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What is he a religious person?
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Well, yes, he is.
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You'd like to be foundationally contradicting yourself.
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The globalists are going to say he's a fucking mafia guy six months earlier.
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I have from high level sources, he's a mafia guy.
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Were his high level sources globalists or is Alex the secret globalist?
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Could be.
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You never know.
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Controlled opposition, Dan.
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So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets down to business with talking about some war fears
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maybe a little bit.
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Mulan?
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Yeah.
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Let's see what happens.
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People are really getting it now.
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And as a culture, you just say no, it's over unless they get a full prison grid in over
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you.
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I want to get to this Reuters article on Russia.
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Real quick, before he gets into this, he doesn't actually develop his feelings on it, but this
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is an article about that guy who got poisoned with Polonium.
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The guy who was clearly a hit job by Putin.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's an article that's come out that...
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Great man Putin who would never do anything like this.
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There's an article that's come out from the UK Intelligence Services investigation that
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is like, there's a really good chance that Putin was signed off on this.
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There's a 100% chance.
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Why would you pretend that there wasn't?
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They can't say that though with 100% certainty.
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But yeah, you can.
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We can.
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Because, of course.
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Yeah, but there's standards and practices.
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It doesn't even need for him to have signed off on it, somebody told him that and he was
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like, fuck yeah.
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Like, that's it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He gave the Tony Danza.
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So, that's the article that he's talking about and his response is, the evidence isn't compelling.
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It's not convincing.
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I don't see any evidence that Putin did this and you know what, it is every country's right
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to kill off their own secret agents.
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That's not how that works.
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But then...
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I mean, maybe it is?
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I don't know the rules of that.
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He rambles for about five minutes about how like, I don't think Putin did this.
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And then he's like, there's a 50% chance Russia did this.
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What are you doing?
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What are you fucking doing?
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Hey, it's a coin flip.
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There's no analysis.
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There's nothing at all.
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It's just... but hold on.
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Does he ever say people aren't getting it now?
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We hear him say like, people are really starting to get it now.
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Right.
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They're always... is that... his argument is...
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Make a note of that and save it for the end because we're gonna go... we're gonna get
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back to this exact thought in a very important way.
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Save it for the end.
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But for now, let's see how the rest of this clip plays out where he has introduced the
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idea of this story about Russia.
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Yeah.
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Which signals a big shift towards conflict, towards war.
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Before we do that though, ladies and gentlemen, I don't steer you wrong.
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I really bust my hind in and I bust my gray matter trying to really bring you the best
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products.
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Great.
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Oh, ad pivot.
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Damn it, Dan.
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You didn't even know that was happening.
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I had no idea that one was coming.
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God damn it.
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How am I still not on it all the time?
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Well, because he brags about himself a lot.
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So that one could have been...
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Because I feel like people are really getting it now whenever an ad pivot is gonna happen
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and it's just not me.
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It's interesting because that ad pivot, I bust my gray matter in my butt.
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That could have been a, I do it to get all the truth to you.
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Exactly.
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It's a nefarious pivot in many ways.
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What a solid ad pivot.
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Yeah, pretty strong.
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Still caught me by surprise.
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After almost a year, I'm still like, there's no way this is gonna be an ad.
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No way.
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It's this disgraceful.
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Everything is an ad.
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Everything.
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But at this point in January, the Flint lead in the water crisis was at a point that even
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Alex could not ignore.
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Yeah, everybody was pining.
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Thank God everybody's finally paid attention to it and really gotten to the bottom of it
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and solved that problem.
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It hit a flash point and Alex couldn't ignore it, so he decided to talk about it.
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I've left out a lot of this because it's nonsense.
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But I will give you three bullet points he has.
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First, fuck Michael Moore.
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Fair.
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Second, this is the city's problem.
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No.
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It's great.
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Third, why are we talking about this?
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Everyone's got fluoride.
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Interesting narrative.
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Wow.
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Interesting narrative.
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That's really comprehensive.
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Sure.
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Like he gets to all the parts he wants to get to.
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Yeah, he uses all of the buffalo.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Except it's not a buffalo.
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Except it's people who are dying and getting sick.
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So I have left this clip in because I think it's probably the most important and most
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demonstrative of Alex Jones' feelings.
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And I should say this is while he's on the phone with Leanne McAdoo, who is in Flint.
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She went and did some field pieces.
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Oh, man.
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And so she is in Flint, but he keeps saying that it's too cold for her Skype to work.
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That is not how that works.
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So he's like, oh, your Skype's breaking up, it's too cold over there.
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What he's really saying is Leanne talked to some people and Leanne was like, holy shit,
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this is really a big issue.
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She doesn't.
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She's like, I do not want you to say that on air.
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She does end up talking to, I wish I'd pulled this clip, she ends up talking to him at one
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point and it just deteriorates into a plug because she's like, you know, I'm glad I got
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my total cleanse out here.
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No.
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We got to eat food and, you know, drink water out here.
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Who knows?
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You know, I'm glad to have this cleanse.
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Also, I'm back on Super Female.
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I was single for a little while, so I didn't want to take it.
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I wanted her hair to fall out.
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Whoa.
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I don't know what, does that mean that when she takes it.
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She's too horny.
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She's too horny.
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Too horny.
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When she's single, she's worried she's going to fuck the world.
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Yes.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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All right.
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Well now I kind of want to, now I want to take some Super Female Vitality.
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Even Alex was like, oh, it's getting a little hot.
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What is this?
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What is this report on Flint where we're discussing relative horniness?
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Here we are in Flint, Michigan.
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I have my Infowars brand water purifier and I want to fuck.
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There we go.
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Thanks, Leanne.
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Great.
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Back to the studio, Alex.
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So here's Alex's interrupting Leanne at this point and giving what his point really is.
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Like an honorable gentleman who has chivalry in his heart.
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And then at the end of this, I have some very important points.
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Well that's it.
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I mean, let's say it.
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You know, you had all these Germans, Poles, black Americans, you name it, that moved in
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there in the last hundred years, the industrial revolution, Henry Ford.
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It became a big boom town.
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Then the mafia moved in, organized crime, the unions, and they took it over.
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And that's just how it runs.
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And as far as I'm concerned, and I've talked to Michiganders, they're great people, Detroit
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and Flint aren't part of the state.
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They're gone.
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You go everywhere else.
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It's nice.
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People are doing great.
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It's wonderful.
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You go there.
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It's a bunch of just, you know, thug kingpins feeding off their people.
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And that's the end of it.
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And of course, this is what you need to expect, like Mexico.
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It's collapsing.
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Right.
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I hope you die, Alex.
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I hope you die.
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I hope all your hair falls out.
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I hope your fucking fingernails bleed for the rest of your fucking life.
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Are you shitting me?
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That's what he said?
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I love people with empathy, Dan.
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There's some interesting facts that you can find about these two communities that he's
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deemed not a part of Michigan.
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Boy, I'm going to start to think they're the least white places in Michigan, Dan.
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So Michigan as a whole is 80.2% white.
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Very white.
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It's pretty white.
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14.2% black.
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Let me ask you a question.
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Where would that 14.2% be concentrated, Dan?
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Well let me tell you about Detroit.
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It is 12.3% white and 81.6% black.
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I don't understand why he would be less interested in how they do.
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I don't either.
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Also, in Flint, the racial makeup of the city according to recent census was 53.3% African
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American, 41.1% white.
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So even that is substantially outside of the norm for Michigan.
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If you go to towns like Ann Arbor, those sorts of places, they're far heavier white concentrations.
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And if you want to go back to when that started happening, I'll be goddamned if it didn't
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have anything to do with the white flight era and everybody who lived in the city being
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afraid of black people so they moved out to the goddamn suburbs and ruined our fucking
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lives.
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And then also if you want to look at it on an even closer analysis, you'll find that
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the average median per capita income in Detroit is a good $8,000 a year less than the entirety
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of Michigan.
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Oh, well, that's because the unions.
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And there's-
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Because of the thugs, crime bosses-
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Right.
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And the unions.
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That have all been busted up largely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And there's 16.1, I'm sorry, 15.6% higher incidence of people living below the poverty
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line-
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Of course.
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In Detroit than there is-
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Of course.
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In Michigan and its entirety.
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I am not entirely sure.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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So 26.4% of the population in Flint is under the poverty line, including 37.4% of those
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under the age of 18.
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Christ.
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So the things that we're talking, like it's, when Alex wants to say that Detroit and Flint
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suspiciously aren't part of Michigan, that's code.
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That's not anything other than, boy, these places are anomalous and how black they are.
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Right.
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Right.
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It's disgusting.
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It was when the Germans and the Poles and you know-
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And Henry Ford, a Nazi.
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And the black people moved in.
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A Nazi.
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It was the Germans and the Poles and the black people, but it was mainly the Germans and
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the Poles.
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I mean, I'm not a racist.
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I mean, yeah, all the Germans and the Poles left, and now I hate the place, but it's got
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nothing to do with that.
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Henry Ford was great.
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He definitely wasn't a fucking Nazi.
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Right.
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He wasn't involved in the protocols.
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Protocols.
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Protocols.
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Protocols.
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So that's disgraceful and I find it very disgusting considering what we now know, a year later,
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about the fertility problems that have come from the lead poisoning.
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It's such an-
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When that's one of Alex Jones' big narratives is, you know, he doesn't really care about
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black fertility that much, I don't think.
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I think that's probably why he doesn't make a big deal out of it.
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And the idea of scoring points on it, and he even does this, like I don't have a clip
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of it, but I swear to you, he does this.
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He's talking about it and he's like, I mean, we sell water filtration.
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Like ugh.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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Utilizing people's pain and suffering in order to sell your products-
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To sell snake oil products.
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Well, I don't actually know.
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I mean, I think of his products, I think the water filtration is probably the best of them.
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Like, there is a place for water filtration in the world.
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It's maybe not the biggest emergency for most people, but compared to the real red pill,
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I would take a water filter.
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Well, that's true.
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I've had a Brita in my day.
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Yeah, but it didn't have Alex Jones' fucking face on it.
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Wish it did.
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I believe you do.
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That way you could get angry at water every morning.
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Goddamn water!
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Goddamn you water!
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Throw it across the room.
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So I just, I can't believe, like, it's so obvious and it's so disheartening that we
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all know how big of an issue Flint is, and we all know that's an issue that we could
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for real fix.
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Like, of all the things that we could fix, that's one of them.
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And it would cost money.
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It would be hard.
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But just think about how we could fucking fix it, and it's not-
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And think about what's lost by not.
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And think about who fucking did it.
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That was a direct result of those fucking assholes being like, well, we need to keep
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Detroit from going bankrupt.
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We need to divert our water supply to this different place.
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We need to fuck over everybody.
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And then we're gonna lie about it for four years.
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And we could fucking fix it.
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And we just won't.
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Like right now, Puerto Rico and Houston and all of these fucking places are still trying
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to recover.
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And we know that this is an issue, but it's just one of so many fucking issues.
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It's so hard to care about everything all at the same time.
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Well, I think one of these issues too, or at least what this triggers in a lot of people
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who could help, is a sense of ego or a sense of pride being wounded.
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I think that there's a piece of it where people would be like, let's not play the blame game.
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It's like, well, let's not.
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Let's not.
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You don't need to do that.
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People did very seriously fuck up and it needs to be fixed.
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It's like a prosecutor...
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Everyone's afraid that they would be held accountable and so they never fix the problem.
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It's like a prosecutor who put away an innocent man and everybody knows they're innocent,
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but the prosecutor has to constantly be like, no, no, no, we got the right guy.
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We got the right guy.
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I definitely didn't sentence an innocent man to death.
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Oh, I want to say this really quick too, because this episode, we're recording this on Sunday,
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but it'll come out on Monday and I want to make a video...
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This is getting off the Flint thing real quick.
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I want to make a prediction.
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Getting back onto church days.
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I want to get a prediction about an Alex Jones narrative.
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The other day, I believe on Friday, it came out that one of the judges in the Ninth Circuit
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Court, Alex Kaczynski, has...
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Serial sexual harasser.
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And also just other kind of harasser.
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All of it.
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Just a kind of piece of shit all around.
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Abusive type of guy.
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It's an allegation, the lady who wrote about it seems very believable.
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I have no reason to disbelieve.
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He's not been tried in a court or anything like that, but that's not really the issue.
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I 100% believe her.
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What I want to make a prediction about is Alex is going to use that as ammo against
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the Ninth Circuit the way he hates them so much because they've outlawed American flag
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shirts at schools and stuff like that.
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You think so?
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I'm going to argue that he's going to defend the guy.
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No.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I'm going to argue that he will.
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Not a chance.
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I bet he does.
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He hates the Ninth Circuit.
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I bet he does.
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He hates the Ninth Circuit.
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He's been yelling about this forever.
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Yeah, but he loves sexual harassment.
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That's true.
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But any chance he could have to attack the Ninth Circuit, he's going to take and he's
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intellectually inconsistent to an unbelievable degree.
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No, that's true.
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I'm just laying my bet.
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There's a 50% chance and that's all I'm saying.
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I think you're wrong.
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We're going on red or black here and I'm going to pick black.
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I hope you're...
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No, I don't hope you're right because either way it's a fucking narrative.
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But be that as it may.
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Yeah, there's no winner in this bet.
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If I'm right, I looked it up, he had nothing to do with that decision.
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He wasn't on the panel of judges.
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Any of the decisions Alex Jones has talked about with the Ninth Circuit Court, he was
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not involved.
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No, he's just a piece of shit.
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Yeah, and it's completely irrelevant to any of Alex's narratives.
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So preemptively that argument doesn't work.
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I think we're at the point now with public accusations of sexual harassment and that
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kind of shit.
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The people who are coming forward and the people who are accused, if you're accused,
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you're guilty until proven innocent at this point.
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I'm not comfortable with that, but I don't disagree.
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I understand.
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Exactly.
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I'm not...
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Exactly.
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It's almost impossible to prove a negative.
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The instances of false accusation are so slim.
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And then you multiply it by the number of people coming forward.
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Like if six people come forward independently, guess what?
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You fucking did it.
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I accidentally stumbled into a men's rights subreddit the other day.
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Not a good idea.
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And they were talking about some of these issues.
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That's like stumbling into a car.
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It's not gonna end well.
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No.
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I saw somebody posted something about how the Innocence Project, most of the people
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who have been released due to the Innocence Project were rape convictions.
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And so they were making the argument that false rape accusations are real and a big
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deal.
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Boy, I bet they had nothing to do with race.
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That's the issue.
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Yeah.
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Who would have guessed?
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Who would have guessed, Dan, that it was black men raping white women?
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That might have been the issue.
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I went to the Innocence Project's website and went through...
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Or perhaps, or better said, black men not raping white women, but being so afraid of
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black people touching your white women.
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Well, that is a bulk of the cases that I was able to find.
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Huge.
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Yeah.
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And that is another issue.
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I mean, it's parceled in slightly, but that's not about fake accusations, that's about racism.
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No, that's about women who were raped and racism getting the wrong people.
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And it's really more about the police than anything else.
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Oh boy, they're great.
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So then the other thing was this person on Reddit who was making this argument was bundling
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in a bunch of rape and murders.
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And it's like, you can't really make a false accusation if you've been murdered.
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That's the police doing that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, it doesn't...
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Wait, his argument is that the woman who was murdered was not raped?
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No, no.
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And that was a false accusation?
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It's just because these cases of people who were exonerated for these crimes involved
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rape, he was making the argument that a bunch of false accusations exist.
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And when you take out the ones that have to do with racially charged incidents...
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There's like five.
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And murders...
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There's like zero.
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It's very slim.
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I'm not sure I found any that were legitimate.
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But be that as it may, when I say legitimate, I mean fall into his argument slightly.
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I don't mean legitimate.
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We're under just purely statistical analysis with how rare it is to get a false rape accusation.
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If it's more than one woman, there's a 97% chance that you were a fucking serial sexual
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assault victim.
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Or the globalists.
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Or the globalists.
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Right.
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That's also possible.
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I will leave that door open.
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Anyway, let's go back to the episode here.
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We get a guest at the end of this episode, and it's a guest that we know well.
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It's a guest we've spoke to on the phone for an hour.
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Oh!
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Fruitlessly.
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Dan Burn?
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No.
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Mike Kaplan?
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No.
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No.
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It is Larry Nichols.
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Fuck that guy.
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Larry Nichols, Larry Hangdog Nichols, comes in to give a little bit of bullshit.
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Larry the hard rice and the soft rice Nicaraguan freedom fighter Nichols.
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Larry the big old fraudulent piece of garbage Nichols.
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Larry Nichols, the fucking Vince Foster fuck face that can go kill himself.
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So Larry Nichols comes on and...
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Who doesn't even really have cancer according to...
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Some online speculation, we're not entirely sure.
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No.
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Can't guarantee it, but eh.
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So Larry Nichols' big arguments that he's coming on to pitch are that Elizabeth Warren
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and Joe Biden are waiting in the wings, and that they're about to take over for Hillary.
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But Hillary has blackmail on everybody, and so she's not going to let them do that.
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So that's what's going on from his inside sources, right?
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I mean, if you change it to control over the Democratic National Committee's funding sources,
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you would be right.
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But Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden weren't going to run.
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Joe Biden was considering running.
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But not all that seriously.
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He actually was considering it very seriously.
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Well...
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Not a...
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No joke at all.
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Joe Biden was really, really close to getting into the race.
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But not because of this.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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Absolutely not.
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But he was really close to it.
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Don't mistake the near miss we had with Joe Biden becoming president.
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Facts versus narrative are important.
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Because that fact can exist in reality and Larry's narrative, with Larry's narrative
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being wrong.
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Yeah.
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No, I agree.
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And so he's also on there to say that like-
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Unless.
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Unless for the first time we believe Larry Nichols is telling the truth.
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So in the last couple appearances he's had on the show, Larry Nichols has waffled back
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and forth from Trump is the only person who can save us to Hillary is the only one who
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can save us from Barack Obama turning us into a Muslim caliphate when he becomes king.
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Makes sense.
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So he has no center at all.
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But on this appearance, he's on the Trump side.
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Gotcha.
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So he says something that I think is him showing too many cards, too many cards, and being
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a little too overt.
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Put your mic down.
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Okay.
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Are they-
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This is the showdown, Alex.
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No, no, no.
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No.
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Pokemon.
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This is the showdown, Alex.
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This is the election that our country's up for grabs right now.
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And that's why we've got to get in.
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We, the average American, and I'll say it, the average American white guy, we're being
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excluded from the whole thing.
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We're the dinosaur.
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We're the ones that are the endangered species.
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Sure.
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It's the broken coalition strategy that you use to get them into the gubernatorial office.
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They've now done where the minorities were walled off before and they played politics.
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Now it's the other way around and people are saying, good, get the old white guy.
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It's not going to screw the white guy over.
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It's a bunch of rich white guys offshore running the whole scam.
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They just don't want middle-class people, period, that happen to be a lot of them white,
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to have a say anymore.
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That's right.
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I mean, they want us out of the pit trap.
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Remember what I told you years ago.
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They want the evil Western culture that's here, you know, of a free market and profit
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gone.
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They want a monopoly now and they're getting ready to do it.
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That's right.
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So in one fell swoop, Larry has admitted we just need white men to take over, which they
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already have.
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Problem solved.
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Yeah.
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Problem solved.
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Done, Larry.
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Larry, you nailed it.
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Don't you see how much better everything is when white men run things?
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Well, it was like Mary Tyler Moore was on, you know, back in those days.
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Men and women work together.
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The other, in one fell swoop, Alex has indicated that these ideas about Westernism and that
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stuff, it's white, it's just white dudes.
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That's fucked up, man.
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They shouldn't have said that.
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They shouldn't have said that on air again.
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This is the era of make the subtext text, man.
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But nobody gives a shit.
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In fact, they're way ahead of the game.
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They are.
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Well, that's what Info Wars is.
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Next year's news today, man.
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Get tomorrow's racism today.
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It's fucking unreal.
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When I heard that, I was like, woof, we got to talk to Larry about that.
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I mean, we don't.
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No, we don't.
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It's really implied, but I've never, like, on the episodes...
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Well, I mean, let's face it.
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It was white women who really screwed us at the end of the day.
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And white dudes.
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Well, they've always been screwing us.
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We had to rely on white women to really get us through this situation, and white women
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failed us.
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The white race failed us.
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As a me, I'm not ready to come down on them necessarily.
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But be that as it may, in the times that I've listened to this show and all this history,
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I've heard Larry Nichols be really Islamophobic and really fucked up on that tip, but I've
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never heard him say something that overt.
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That overtly white nationalist?
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Yeah.
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I've never heard that, and that took me...
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I wasn't surprised necessarily.
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I was going to say, what did you think he thought?
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Well, no, of course, it was sort of implied that that was in his belief set.
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But at the same time, it did surprise me a little.
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Like not...
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That he would give up the game?
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That he wouldn't even couch it in pretend non-racism.
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Yes.
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That he would just whole hog be like, white dudes, ride up!
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Well, when he says average Americans, and let me just say, what I mean is white males.
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That is...
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I constantly struggle with this.
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I feel like...
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Is it the Joker who's like, I want to hire a class of criminal in this town?
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Yeah, yeah.
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From The Dark Knight?
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Yeah.
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That sort of mentality.
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I'm like, I get disappointed in these guys when they're...
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I feel the same way.
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We just did an episode a week ago where I was like, I'm disappointed in Alex.
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Make me work for it.
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Yeah!
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Come on, guys!
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You're just putting your white nationalism out on display, and then being like, when
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someone calls you a racist, being like, where's the proof?
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Yeah!
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It's right here.
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It's right there.
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It's everywhere.
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Yeah.
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You guys make it so...
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If we wanted it to be this obvious, we would just cover Stormfront.
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Right.
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You know?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Although half of the time, we fucking are.
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Which, by the way...
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Oh, don't tell me anything.
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It's a big Stormfront news.
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I don't want to know...
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I don't know if I should get into this now.
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Fuck it.
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What?
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I should?
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Okay.
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So, I've been doing a bit of research on this guy named Ted Malek, who's on Alex Jones'
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show pretty regularly.
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Ted Malek?
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Ted Malek.
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M-A-L-L-O-C-H.
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Oh, Ted Malek.
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Malek.
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The god of...
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Right.
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Okay.
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Alex Jones presents him as an insider.
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He is a part of the Aspen Institute and Davos Group, but he's turned on them, right?
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He's become a patriot.
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Sure.
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He was a big proponent of Brexit and then was allegedly Trump's pick to be the ambassador
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to the EU.
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Great.
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But it didn't work out.
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I wonder why.
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Well, a bunch of videos came out of him being like, I want to destroy the EU.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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That sounds right.
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Bunch of people at the EU were like, don't do that.
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As opposed to Trump's pick for the FCC, whose main goal was, I want to destroy the FCC.
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Or his pick for the fucking consumer financial protection bureau, who's literally said, I
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want to destroy the consumer financial protection bureau.
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Right, right.
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How is that going?
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Have we solved that issue yet?
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Certainly haven't.
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No.
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So if you look into it, this guy, Ted Malek, I'm going to write an article about this and
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put it out on the website soon, so a lot of this information will be contained therein.
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He wrote an autobiography called Aspen, Davos, and Yale.
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How old is he?
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He is probably in his maybe 60.
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I don't know.
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He looks good.
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I don't know.
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I'd put him at late 50s, early 60s maybe.
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But people have done some analyses of his book and checked a bunch of claims in his
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book.
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And they are not real.
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All lies.
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He claims that he was, quote, knighted in the sovereign order of St. John by the Queen
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Elizabeth II herself.
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And to my closest family and friends, I am therefore known as Sir Ted.
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I love that.
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All right?
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Now, disregard anything that's going to result from this.
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I love a man who will write an autobiography where he's a false sir.
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That's fantastic.
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So the Foreign Times...
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I'm just on board.
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I'm just on board with anybody who has the balls to just be like, yeah, the Queen knighted
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me.
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Sure.
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The Financial Times looked into it, and it turns out he received the Medal of St. John
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in 2005, but it was as a, quote, serving brother, a grade roughly equivalent to an MBE, a British
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honor several ranks lower than knighthood.
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It does not carry a title, and members do not attend an investiture with the Queen.
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So the Queen wasn't even involved.
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Course not.
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So when they reached out to Malek for comment, he said, of course, it's not a knighthood.
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I never suggested it was.
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You just said it.
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In the book, he says, I was knighted.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So also he claims that he...
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Maybe it was metaphorical.
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It was made a laird by Lord Leon of Scotland and given a personal coat of arms with a fancy
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Latin inscription.
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Okay.
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However...
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And the Latin inscription means, I'm a fucking liar.
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Right.
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It's like that episode of Lost, that tattoo by Ling.
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Yeah.
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Oh, boy.
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All right.
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All right, Dan.
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From the Financial Times.
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However, a clerk and keeper of records at the court of Lord Leon said, quote, the Lord
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Leon does not, nor could he, create a person a laird.
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It would certainly be incorrect for Mr. Malek to say he was made a laird by the Lord Leon
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King of Arms.
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Mr. Malek told the Financial Times that he had a scroll.
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He had a scroll?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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He had patents of nobility.
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That proves.
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He's got it.
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Yeah.
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He had a scroll.
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God, I love the delusional guys who go back far enough for it to be hilarious.
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Yeah.
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Just like the idea...
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Yeah, I got a mural made for me by Queen Elizabeth I.
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What are you fucking doing, you idiot?
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I promise that this is going to get back to the Stormfront as we jumped off.
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I don't want it to.
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I want to live in scroll world.
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I don't want nothing to do with Stormfront.
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So there's a bunch of others.
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Also, now I want to open a store called scroll world.
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Yeah.
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So he made a bunch of other assertions.
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Of his curricula verite, his CV, and in his book, he claimed that he was a professor at
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Oxford.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Tell me.
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Tell me the truth, Dan.
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The University of Oxford rejected Mr. Malek's assertion to have been a senior fellow at
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the Wolfson College.
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Oh, did they?
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Quote, in publicity statements about and by Professor Ted Malek, he is described as having
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been a senior fellow at Wolfson College.
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This is inaccurate.
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It said in a statement, Mr. Malek was a visiting academic for two years, but he very rarely
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visited the college and did not see through any of his plans for research activities with
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the college, added the university, which is usually reluctant to criticize former staff.
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See, this is this is my biggest issue.
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Hold on.
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This is my biggest issue.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Go for it.
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So in his CV, he also states that he was a fellow and director of an international summer
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school at Pembroke College at Oxford.
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Oh, that one I buy.
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Pembroke College told the Financial Times that this was incorrect.
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God, this is the thing that drives me insane, right?
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Here's what I want from liberals.
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Here's what I want from all the people who say when they go low, we go high.
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If you are given a quote like that, if somebody comes to you, Oxford fuck faces and says,
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yeah, I was a senior fellow there, you should have the right and the prerogative to be like,
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that dude's a fucking liar.
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What bullshit.
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Well, it's very clear that that's the case.
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Don't say that's incorrect.
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Be very direct and say this fucker is lying.
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In his book.
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That's why we should be we should be spokesmen for so many people.
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Everyone.
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You would be like, here is why this is bullshit.
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Here's why this is bullshit.
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And then I would be the fucking hype man.
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I would be exactly like this motherfucker is lying.
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So in his book, Mr. Malik writes that he completed his entire doctoral program and in an unprecedented
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less than three years between 1976 and 1979.
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That sounds true.
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However, the University of Toronto says his Ph.D. was not awarded until 1980 after being
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questioned by the Financial Times.
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Mr. Malik said that he had completed his coursework and oral exams within three years, but his
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thesis took longer.
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Oh, something to do with Mr. reality.
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Mr. Malik recently claimed that he, quote, had he had helped bring down the Soviet Union.
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That sounds true.
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After a period in the State Department, his most senior diplomatic role was as a deputy
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to the executive executive secretary in the U.N. Economic Commission for Europe between
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1989 and 1991.
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Who else was better placed to take down the Soviet Union?
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He said his role was ambassador level, but U.N. and U.S. officials said the post is not
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regarded as an equivalent.
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He's just a liar.
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Come on, guys.
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Just come out and be like, this dude is fucking lying.
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He's just a complete liar, a complete history.
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He's got delusions of grandeur.
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He also took out a like a number of loans over the years for millions of dollars from
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banks and defaulted on them, of course, but also claimed much higher assets when he took
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the loans.
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Well, yeah.
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So the bank would give them to him.
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He said that he was worth like 30 million dollars when he took out these loans, like
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maybe 10 years ago or so.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm I don't quite have the dates.
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But when everybody's very frustrated with you, when it came time to pay back the loans,
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he's like, ah, shit, I've only got one hundred fifty two thousand.
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Oh, he tried to default on the loans.
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The bank sued him.
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And the court was like, you still owe him this money.
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Yeah.
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You lied about how much money you had.
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You defrauded.
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I see that the problem with that is I kind of want to be on his side any time somebody
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lies to a bank and then is just like, yeah, I got away with it or somebody who just lies
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to a bank so confidently they get millions of dollars.
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I kind of want that.
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I'm on their side.
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Right.
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Like I'm rooting for fuck the banks.
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I have one more thing to read and then we'll get into where we get towards the dicey connection.
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OK.
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Uh, Ted Malek also claims that he's a descendant of Theodore Roosevelt.
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Perfect.
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Perfect.
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Go wilder.
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He's a descendant of Cleopatra.
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Why stop?
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Why stop at Teddy Roosevelt?
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Ted Malek's credibility among right wing Americans has been helped by an unusual claim.
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I'm just reading from the Financial Times here that he is a descendant of President
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Theodore Roosevelt.
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Quote, My parents christened me Theodore Roosevelt after my paternal wasp ancestor, who remains
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one of the finest exemplars of the breed.
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Mr. Malek wrote in his autobiography, Davos, Aspen and Gale.
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The connection has been repeated by right wing publications such as Breitbart, which
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referred to him as the great grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt.
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That sounds true.
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The Daily Caller said that Mr. Malek saw many similarities between his ancestor and the
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Donald.
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Sounds true.
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However, birth records analyzed by the Financial Times cast doubt on the genealogical link.
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Mr. Malek said his relationship was through his father, Theodore Roosevelt Malek, who
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was born in Philadelphia in 1921.
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An obituary of Mr. Malek Sr. does not mention any link to President Roosevelt.
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Oh, it doesn't.
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Who died two years before he was born.
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Who would have guessed?
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Mr. Malek Sr.'s parents were Henry Wilson Malek, a plumber from Scotland, and Frieda
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Schneider, a housewife born in Germany.
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The Financial Times could find no link between them and President Roosevelt, who was aged
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about 35 when they were born.
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President Roosevelt's great-great-grandson, Kermit Roosevelt, said he had never heard
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of Ted Malek.
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Mr. Malek told the Financial Times, I was always told that my grandmother was a descendant
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of a Roosevelt relative.
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German birth records are available only to direct descendants.
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Mr. Malek initially offered to send the Financial Times a birth certificate, but then declined
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to do so, saying he was under no obligation to share private information.
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Born in Kenya!
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He felt the Financial Times was out to damage his reputation and not to establish facts.
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I feel like he was out to damage his reputation.
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However, one of Mr. Malek's uncles was named Woodrow Wilson Malek.
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And he was Woodrow Wilson's great-grandson, right?
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Mr. Malek declined to comment on whether the family was related to Woodrow Wilson.
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Of course, of course.
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Fuck that.
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Yes, yes.
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I don't want to be related to Woodrow.
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Absolutely.
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No, no, no.
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Woodrow, look, if you're going with a ranking system, I'm going to go with Teddy Roosevelt.
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TR.
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Yeah.
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I'm not going to go with the president who made black people hide whenever he was walking
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through the fucking White House.
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Yeah, so I was like looking through this and I'm like, this is fucking amazing.
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He is such a liar.
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And a lot of these lies are things that he claimed in his book.
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I was like, that seems really dangerous for a publisher to put out these false statements.
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Because if he's lying about all this stuff, who knows what other stuff he's lying about?
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All of his claims are really up for grabs, to the point where I looked into it, I can't
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find any evidence that he was involved, strictly speaking, with the Aspen Institute.
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He was in a video in 1991, the World Economic Forum, where he's introducing people in a
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speech.
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Dude, everybody lies on their wrist.
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Right.
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So I take everything about him to be up for grabs.
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Hey, you know what maybe we should start doing then?
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Let's go back through a lot of autobiographies that we rely on as historical documents and
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look, maybe this dude's a fucking bullshitter who knew how to write when most people didn't.
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Right.
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So I looked into it and it turns out that Davos, Aspen, and Yale was put out.
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Day.
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What?
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Day.
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Davos, Aspen, and Yale.
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Day.
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You know who put it out?
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Who?
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WorldNetDaily.
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They're the publishers.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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WorldNetDaily is the publisher of his autobiography.
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Of course.
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He doesn't get that put out on any other actual publisher.
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No.
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He might as well have self-published it.
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If you don't know WorldNetDaily, it's another crazy conspiracy site like Infowars that used
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to employ Jerome Corsi.
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He might as well have been writing.
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He would be more successful writing dinosaur slash pic.
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So this is a fun derivation and I'm glad that we were able to go down it.
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I looked into it and I checked all the books that have been published by WorldNetDaily.
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I'm going to read you some of the greatest hits.
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All right.
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How to choose a husband and make peace with marriage.
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Fantastic.
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Here's the byline of it.
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It's been 40 years since the sexual revolution and the women of America have everything they
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want.
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Everything that is.
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No.
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Except a husband.
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Nope.
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Not true.
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Women may be schooled in the art of sex.
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No thanks.
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But have they failed in the art of love?
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Stop right there.
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Here's the next one.
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Burn the book.
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Next book.
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If I had a son.
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Race, guns, and the railroading of George Zimmerman.
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Don't want any part of that.
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Blood moons.
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Decoding the imminent.
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Already against it.
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Already against it.
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Already against it.
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Stop right there.
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Stop at blood moons.
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The antidote.
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Healing America from the poison of hate, blame, and victimhood.
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Oh yeah.
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You suck it out with your mouth.
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Here is the byline of this.
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In this powerful book, Jesse Lee Peterson traces the collapse of the black community
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in America to an unexpected source.
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The anger against one's mother and father that fatherlessness engenders.
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Wow.
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Yikes.
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Here's another book.
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Jesse.
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Jesse.
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I love Jesse Lee so much.
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Maybe just go back through American history and think, I wonder why black people are fucked
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over.
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Here's another book.
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Be Thou Prepared.
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Equipping the Church for Persecution in the Times of Trouble.
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Great title.
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The Restitution of All Things.
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Israel Christians and the End of the Age.
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That's the motto of the Jesus Boy Scouts, right?
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Be Thou Prepared?
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Stealth Invasion.
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Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and Resettlement Jihad.
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That's not a bad video game title.
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The Devil in D.C. Winning Back the Country from the Beast in Washington.
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Who's that?
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Frank?
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Here's my second favorite of these.
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Everybody knows Frank in Washington, the Beast.
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Here's my second favorite.
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Yeah.
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How Obama Can Be Defeated in 2012.
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A Battle Plan Based on Political Statistical Realities.
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Written by Jerome Corsi.
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Oh no!
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That fucking pile of shit.
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So now here's my favorite of all the books that came out on the World Net Daily imprint.
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Dinosaur Fucking.
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Is it good?
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Might as well be.
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Yeah.
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Outlasting the Gay Revolution.
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Wait!
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What does that even fucking mean?
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That's the title.
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Outlasting the Gay Revolution?
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That's the title.
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Here comes the subtitle.
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Okay.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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Where Homosexual Activism is Really Going and How to Turn the Tide.
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It's going up your butt.
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I don't know what you, what do you want from that?
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So this was written by a guy named Michael Brown, Dr. Michael Brown.
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And he's most notable because- For being a closeted homosexual?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And a couple months ago, he got in some hot water.
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The internet turned on him a little bit.
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For hiring a rent boy?
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No, I'll just read from his rebuttal about this.
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Just the rebuttal.
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We don't even need to know the allegations.
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You'll figure it out.
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You'll figure it out.
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Gotcha.
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This is from a blog post that he wrote called When Social Media Explodes Over an Editing
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Oversight.
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I love the editing oversight being the issue here.
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So when I wrote my article asking whether it was time for another Jesus movement among
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Jewish millennials, I fully expected some pushback since the subject of Jews believing
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in Jesus is hardly without controversy and emotion.
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Jews for Jesus.
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I'm fully aware of how hot this topic is.
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To my surprise and embarrassment, it turns out that a lot of the controversy had nothing
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to do with the substance of the article, but rather focused on a website I hyperlinked
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to in the article.
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To explain briefly, my article was responding to a recent poll that claimed that almost
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50% of Jewish millennials believe Jesus was either God incarnate or a rabbi or a spiritual
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leader.
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Doesn't sound true.
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That prompted me to ask if it might be time to see a great spiritual revival among these
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Jewish millennials, just as we saw in the Jesus people movement of the late 60s and
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early 70s.
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So that poll that he's talking about, that article that he hyperlinked to?
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100% true.
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It was from Stormfront.
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Sounds right.
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Sounds accurate.
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Sounds good.
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And so everybody was like, hey man.
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Hey.
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Hey guy.
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You get...
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Hold on.
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Maybe, maybe, just maybe, don't take anything about Jews from Stormfront ever.
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It made me laugh so hard when I'm like, first of all, this Outlasting the Gay Revolution,
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that's a book.
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That's amazing.
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And then to find out...
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It's by reading that book until everybody dies.
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I had to Google the author because I'm like, what the fuck is this guy up to?
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And then it's like, oh, he linked to Stormfront.
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And his argument is like, I didn't know they were neo-Nazis.
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How do you not know they're neo-Nazis?
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Well, that's in the realm of believable, but at the same time...
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No!
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How sloppy of a job are you doing if you link to something that's supposedly in defense
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of your point and you don't know what the character of the website is?
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You know?
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Eh, you know.
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Do a little editorial work is all I'm saying.
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We do.
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It's so frustrating to me.
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It's so frustrating to me because I have started and finished like 40 or 50,000 words and never
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wound up actually finishing a book.
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And this guy...
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You've also never accidentally linked to Nazis.
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No, I've never accidentally linked to Nazis.
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But this guy fucking finished a book.
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Well, he's so frustrating to me.
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I mean, he shit out the book.
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Yeah, no, I mean, that's not the point.
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I can't shit out a book.
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You could if you just forced yourself to finish.
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The product wouldn't be what you want it to be.
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Well, then you burn it.
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Right.
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Fair enough.
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So anyway, let's get back on track.
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Ted Malek is a complete fucking fraud and that's the bottom line of that.
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Also look for my follow-up book, Unlasting the Homosexual Revolution.
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I also would like to put this out there.
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And then my further follow-up, Everlasting the Homosexual Revolution, which is just
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about Everlasting songs.
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You know what it's like to get butt fucked.
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So the other thing is like, Ted Malek probably wasn't involved with high-end globalists or
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anything like that.
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He's a con man.
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Yeah.
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He's absolutely a con man.
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Or he's just a mentally ill person who has delusions of grandeur.
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There's a great clip that you can find of him at a symposium right after the election
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in London.
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I believe it's in London, somewhere in England.
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They're having a table discussion about how like now we have to deal with the fact that
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a president would lie on Twitter.
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And Ted Malek is like, well, we've had a president who lies every day on Twitter for eight years
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trying to be a dishy, corn-vidal type.
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Oh man, I got you there.
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I got you all.
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And so then they were like, wait, hold on.
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What are you talking about?
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Obama lied every day?
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What's an example of that?
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He's like, well, he came over here and said that we shouldn't get involved with Brexit.
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And the guy's like, hold on.
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That's not a lie.
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That might be unwise if that's your opinion, but that's a statement of an opinion.
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And Ted Malek's like, well, I think it's a lie.
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And then the other panelist is like, let's move on.
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Don't engage.
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Just don't engage.
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Don't fucking do this.
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We can't, we don't have time.
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He's defending the idea that not supporting Brexit is somehow a lie.
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Oh, that's true.
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Well, it's, it's nonsense.
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This guy is a fucking asshole.
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Anyway, that's the sort of caliber of Alex Jones's guess.
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So that was a weird derivation for us to go off on.
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And let's, let's get back into it with the next day, January 22nd now.
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Alex starts January 22nd by being like, now, for a long time, I've been critical about
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Planet X, but it's real.
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Do you mean the 10th planet?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I mean, I think it is real.
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I think it's Israel.
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Well, no, there is, there is a 10th planet, certainly.
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And we know that because of irregularities in the orbits of other planets.
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Well, I mean, that's, that's a question.
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There's probably an 11th, 12th planet.
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There isn't even a ninth planet.
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So how did we get to 10?
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Or are we, are we dealing with Pluto like it's the 13th floor on a, on a hotel?
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Interestingly, Alex, because now scientists have come out and started to discuss the idea
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that there is another planet out there that we just can't quite get a grasp on because
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it's too far away, the orbit is not such that we can study it, but we know it's there because
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of the effects on other planets.
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His narrative is...
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Like how you can't really see a black hole, but the gravitic energy of a black hole is
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obvious.
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Totally.
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And so his argument is that they downgraded Pluto from being a planet, so this could be
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the ninth planet, so conspiracy theorists talking about Planet X, the 10th planet, wouldn't
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be right.
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And it's like, wow.
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That is a long way to go.
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That is a waste of time.
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Wow.
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Scientists need to work on something else.
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But it is an interesting example of Alex sort of giving a like mea culpa, being like, I've
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been critical of Planet X stuff, but here we go.
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It looks like it's there.
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And like, Alex, the Planet X stuff is like ancient alien stuff.
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It's about like Enlil and Enki and the Anunnaki.
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Yeah.
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You know, so it's like, don't give them a tip of the cap just because scientists have
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found the effects of a wobble.
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Right.
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You know, it's nonsense.
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But he gets into a bunch of other crazy shit.
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Like we will hear in this first clip.
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You know what my favorite planet is?
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You didn't learn over the last 11 months?
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No.
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Go ahead.
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Planet Nine from outer space.
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All right, keep going.
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I thought it was Plan Nine from outer space.
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It was.
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God damn it, Dan.
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This next clip.
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Alex Jones.
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I interrupted you for a reason.
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This next clip.
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Alex Jones seems to think that going to school will make you gay.
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Not at some, you know, trendy art school or a third of the kids end up in prison or, you
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know, commit suicide because they confuse them so much.
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But officially in every school in the country that's government accredited, they're going
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to get in there and jack with their brains.
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Same thing in Europe.
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Same thing here.
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We're about two years behind Canada.
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Kids aren't going to be talking about super planets.
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They're not going to be talking about fission fusion, not going to be talking about space
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travel, not going to be talking about tribal memories, not going to be talking about the
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mysteries of the universe.
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They're going to have weirdo cult leaders hanging over them, telling them he and she
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is bad and you don't have to be a boy or girl or you can be gay or you can be this.
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What a group of cult creeps that we let come in and jack us over and turn us into idiots.
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Stay with us.
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I'm Alex Jones.
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Good sign off.
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Sure.
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A lot of that goes back to his misunderstanding of the Tavistock Institute versus the Tavistock
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Clinic.
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Yeah.
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Like that sort of stuff about they're going to be coming into the schools and manipulating
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your children into thinking that they're gay or trans.
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I think it has more to do with a general hatred of higher learning because it's hard.
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Very.
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And also a misunderstanding of how tribal memories relate to space.
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Or formal education.
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Not a big fan of formal education.
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But can you conceive of a world wherein tribal memories is a school class that you take?
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Yes.
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I could too.
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Actually because I grew up-
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I think we live in that world and Native Americans wouldn't be invited.
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I grew up in Hawaii for a couple of years and one of the classes we did have was elders
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would come and teach us dances and teach us about the old ways.
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Yeah.
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That's not the ability to pass down memories through race genetics.
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I actually kind of think they were trying to find shamans.
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I think that's what the class was really about.
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Really?
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I think that these old ladies and mumus would come to the class and they were secretly trying
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to find the next seer.
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That's what I think.
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I'd be in on that.
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It was probably just dancing.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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It is such a fascinating thing how Republicans hate science and yet will believe any science
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that agrees with them.
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Like any science.
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Like anybody-
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I'm hard pressed to figure out what science really agrees with them.
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Oh, well, I mean more than anybody like, okay, just go with the climate change bullshit.
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I shall.
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97% of scientists agree.
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And let's just call that 100% of scientists who are real.
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They all agree climate change is real and we can point to its effects and we can point
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to how it's happening and we can point to solutions.
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But if you have one Republican who points to some dumb ass study, they're like, see,
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dumb ass study proves it.
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Everybody else is lying to you.
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They have no critical thought beyond that guy agrees with what I already think.
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Well, let me take this to another sort of direction.
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There are studies that exist that try and demonstrate that the laws of thermal dynamics
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aren't real.
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Like the idea that energy is not just changed, it's created or destroyed.
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And those studies inevitably turn out, they're like, oh, you guys just didn't think about
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this thing.
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You forgot that variable in that study.
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Yeah.
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Which is the great thing about science is that peer review is available and they're
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like, oh no, here's your mistake.
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And nobody's like, no, you're fucking wrong, this is a lie, the entire, no, they're like,
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oh yeah, now I get it.
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And that pretty much accounts for the 3% of the folks that are not on the side of climate
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change.
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But by all means, bolster those voices.
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A large amount of money accounts for the 3%.
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Dem Cokes.
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Yeah, Dem Cokes.
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What was it?
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Was it Buzzfeed, I believe, over the weekend found James O'Keefe's donor list, I believe.
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I bet it's all, I bet it all comes from Noam Chomsky.
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Well, yeah, actually that was a weird twist.
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That's a weird twist, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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No, all of it comes from Noam Chomsky?
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He likes truth.
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Noam Chomsky hates baby parts.
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That was actually the center for medical progress.
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Ah, there we go.
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With Project Veritas, two of the highest donors, like hundreds of thousands of dollars, were
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Koch brothers pass-through accounts.
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Yeah, of course.
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So it wasn't the Koch brothers giving them money directly, but it was funds that they
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are in charge of the pass-through.
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So people give to them, and then they direct it.
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Well, yeah, all of the donor lists are winding up, turning out to be dark money.
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Right, right.
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That's who...
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$25,000 from Gladius Maximus, which is just the Mercers, and I was like, eh.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck rich people.
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$50,000 from, I guess, his dad or his brother, I don't know, some other O'Keefe.
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Kill him.
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Not Georgia.
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Yeah.
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Alex Jones has an interesting position.
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Oh, also...
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No, Georgia donated a picture of a vagina.
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Right?
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She's always on my mind.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, the idea that a third of people who go to art schools are in prison or commit
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suicide is inaccurate, but also reductive in many ways.
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My girlfriend went to art school, and she knows, she's told me many times that a third
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of them went to school and killed themselves or were in prison, and that none of them know
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anything about space or tribal memories.
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Art school...
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All they know about is not to be he or she.
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Art school, in that case, would be more devastating than the Battle of the Bulge.
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Like, surviving art school would be one of the most...
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Nobody...
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Look.
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You're in the shit.
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Two of the biggest American casualties.
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One, the Civil War.
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Many Americans died in the Civil War.
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Two, art schools.
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Art schools.
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Yeah.
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The finger paint offensive or whatever.
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Such bullshit.
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Such bullshit.
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And there are a lot of people who end up being artists who end up killing themselves, but
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I would argue that this is a causation fallacy, and that you should...
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Would you argue that?
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Yes.
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But Alex has some ideas about people who criticize his ideas, as we do, very regularly.
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I'm assuming they're positive.
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He seems to think that most of them are feds, but then he goes on to talk about the past
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and who used to criticize him in the past, and this clip is dumb.
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I mean, folks, I have to deal with feds sometimes, where it's a known fed, and I'm at an event,
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and they show up with crazy people in camo going, you put a chip in my brain, I'm gonna
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get you, drooling, and the fed's behind them laughing at me going, we're gonna get you,
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Jones.
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We're gonna get you, Jones.
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This clip isn't done.
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It's like a Dukes of Hazzard, Sheriff.
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My alternative explanation for what Alex is describing is two crazy fans of his independently
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running into each other at an Alex Jones event.
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Possible.
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One of them being like, you put a chip in my brain, and the other one laughing.
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That's probably more what's going on.
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Or neither of them actually exist.
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I imagine that the feds don't have the resources.
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To what?
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Bully Alex Jones pointlessly.
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I feel like that's really all they're doing.
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That might be.
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I mean, you want to live in a science fiction movie, folks?
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I live in it, okay?
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I believe that.
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I mean, in a way.
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Long pause.
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This is a long pause.
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You talk about evil.
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These people are it.
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Still going.
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So they don't even really use the CIA or the FBI.
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They use these foundations, and there's the Ford Foundation, there's a bunch of them.
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Rockefeller.
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Rockefeller.
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And I've had, let's just say, people in law enforcement that are able to do legal and
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lawful checks on things, look into these groups, and they go, you're absolutely right.
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Yeah, this guy works for this major foundation.
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We checked it.
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How'd you know that?
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And I said, well, I know it's not even the police.
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How did you know that?
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How'd you know that?
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I mean, when Clinton was in, I had to deal with the military.
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Messing with me.
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Special forces.
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You didn't.
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Real quick.
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Real quick.
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Were you knighted by Queen Elizabeth II?
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Real quick.
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When the Clintons were in office, Alex Jones was a zero.
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He was not at all in the mainstream consciousness.
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He came into being because of loose change and because of his broadcast on 9-11, when
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he said, I called this.
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And his daddy's money.
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His daddy's money.
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Well, that's why he had a show on the radio.
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But he was a completely ignorable variable.
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There's no way that I would believe that the Clintons sent military after him.
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That's absurd.
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And even if they did.
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Why would you send the special forces?
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You could send National Guard reserves, man.
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It's not hard to send a Coast Guard agent.
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He's close to the Bay in Texas.
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No.
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No.
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The point they just said, we're not doing this.
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We're not harassing this guy.
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No, no.
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We're not surveilling him.
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We're not going to beat him up and we're not going to follow him around and we're not going
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to threaten him and we're not going to call him at home.
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We're not going to do it anymore.
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I haven't been messed with by the military since about 2000.
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So who they have messing with me is these groups and they're doing it all over the place
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and people just need to know about it.
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Do they?
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And it's not fun.
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I bet it is.
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But it's what I've got to deal with.
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It's not.
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I bet it's not.
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You're making this up.
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I haven't been messed with by the military since around 2000.
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I also hadn't been messed with before that.
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But since then, I have also not been.
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I mean, it's still a true statement.
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Right.
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Right.
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Such nonsense.
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What would.
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What would.
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OK.
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So if you were the military.
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Right.
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How would you mess with Alex Jones?
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I just keep thinking of those messing with Sasquatch commercials now.
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Exactly.
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Little pranks.
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Like Karl-Anthony Towns is over there just kind of like, hey, guess what?
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Alex misrepresents a lot of the times when he's being victimized by people.
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Do you mean all the time?
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Yes, all the time.
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Yes.
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I just don't I don't buy it.
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I don't believe any of this.
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The foundations aren't.
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It's bullshit.
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Foundations aren't fucking with him.
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The military wasn't during the Clinton time.
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It's all bullshit.
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Actually, Isaac Asimov's books were all about Alex Jones.
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Foundation.
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Second Foundation.
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Forward the Foundation.
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All of that.
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Most.
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All about Alex Jones.
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Most of Philip K. Dick's books feature slightly less paranoia than Alex Jones has.
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But it's similar in many ways.
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The cask of a.
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Never mind.
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I won't even bother with Edgar Allan Poe references.
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So Jordan, in this next clip, Alex Jones often talks about ways you can support the broadcast.
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A lot of these ad pivots we talk about.
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Downloading the app Waze.
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Sure.
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We can buy pills.
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That supports a lot of industries.
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Or you can buy a billboard.
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I would love to buy a billboard.
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Or.
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Three billboards outside of Lubbock, Missouri or whatever it is.
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There's so many ways you can support the info war.
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But today on this episode, is there a new way January 22nd?
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Alex has the cheapest and most annoying way you could possibly support the info war.
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And then it doesn't bear fruit because all you do is keep planning and keep scheming
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and keep thinking about how you're going to write a book or how you're going to do a newsletter,
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how you're going to do a local radio show or how you're going to run for office or how
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you're going to start speaking out.
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You want to do something.
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Start speaking out of the grocery store line.
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No.
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Just say, man, I sure wish my kids could have some of this gum.
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They're asking it right now.
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They don't do that anymore because they know they'll get a speech.
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Oh, we're in the grocery store line.
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We're in the Target line.
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We're in the gas station line.
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There's seven people in line in front of us.
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My kids start saying, can we have some of this bubble gum?
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And I'll say back when they're four or five, I'd say, read on the back.
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Does it say aspartame?
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They go, oh, daddy, they all do.
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Yeah.
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What alcohol?
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They just kind of laugh sometimes nicely, something like, oh, hey, Alex.
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Yeah, I'm awake.
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Yeah.
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Too bad.
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You can't find any gum at aspartame.
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So then he goes and he goes on to get into like a two minute ramble about like nursery
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water having fluoride in it and how like, hey, I've been I've been in the line and been
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like, hey, lady, don't get that water for your baby.
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I'll go get the right water for you.
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I've done it like three or four times in my life.
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Like you're the worst.
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So you're the worst.
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Like I can't stress enough.
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Mind your goddamn business.
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It's just like he keeps going on like, no, no, no, look, I love your kids.
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I'm trying to help your family.
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I love doing the show.
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I love talking to you about Alex Jones.
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If I ever go to a store and I'm like, let me tell you something about Alex Jones.
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Kill me.
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Kill me.
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I kill me.
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I mean this sincerely, like I know you do.
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If anyone ever in my life, stranger, acquaintance, friend, me, family member, you was like, here's
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something I heard from Alex Jones.
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I would be like, I got to go.
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I was just like, no point in arguing.
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I got to go.
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Of course.
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I got to go.
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This is why the self checkout line was invented.
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What time is it?
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Guess what?
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I get to keep my headphones in during the checkout.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's dehumanizing.
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They want us to buy produce from robots.
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I'm fine with that.
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If you've ever been stuck behind an old lady in the self checkout machine, you're like,
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oh no, no, no, I get why we need to get rid of Medicare.
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So for the rest of this episode, we enter what I referenced at the top of the show.
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And that is Alex ends up getting a collar.
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He doesn't get it yet.
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But at this point, Alex is really, really into being right about economic collapse.
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Of course.
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And he starts switch, as we are in 2017, we can definitively say he was correct.
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Sure.
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He was right on in the, in the summer of rage.
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Do you remember when the summer of rage happened?
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I mean, like we're looking at January, 2016, we are nigh on a month away from two years
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after and the economy has done nothing but stabilize and go up.
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Now, granted there are troubles.
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Well, the economy has not gone up.
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It is not collapsed though.
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Stock market has gone up.
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The economy has stayed consistently miserable for people like us.
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Right.
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That's it.
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But, but again, we're not the Renaissance.
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No we're not.
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We're not the 1%.
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We're not the 1%.
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It doesn't really matter.
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None of us work at fucking Bitcoin.
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Right.
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It's going to be, everybody knows, this is the weird thing about, this is the weird thing
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about our stock market system.
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Everybody, everybody knows Bitcoin is going to collapse.
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The people who work for Bitcoin, the people who invented Bitcoin, the people who are investing
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in Bitcoin right now know that this is an unsustainable, unsustainable bubble, and this
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is going to explode.
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And everybody's like, well, fucking get what you can while you can.
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Like this is going to demolish people's fucking retirement accounts.
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And yet somehow everybody's fine with this for the time being.
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I was talking, I was talking to listener and a buddy far out about it.
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He is a, he is into cryptocurrency and Bitcoin.
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No, I'm into cryptocurrency, but it's not worth 16,000.
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No, but, but that's, I will say that it's an illusion somewhat because there's a finite
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number of the Bitcoins and they can be broken up into the smallest possible portions.
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You're never going to be trying to sell one Bitcoin.
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You'll be selling the tinier parts of it for $20, $40, whatever.
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So like the idea that you couldn't find a buyer for it, the one coin for 16,000, absolutely,
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you're not going to find that.
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No.
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But you could find buyers for the smaller portions of it, which does give it value.
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I don't, I don't fully understand the situation, but I do know that for the last 24 hours or
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so, I've been tracking the Bitcoin price and just the like minute by minute fluctuation
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of it is terrifying.
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Like as, as like I was thinking about it, if I had any money invested in it.
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If you did it, here's how you would have killed OJ's wife.
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Well, but like if you looked at it over the course of, I mean, you can do, you can do
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this again for the next 24 hours because it'll repeat.
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But like there are like minutes where it goes down $500 for a Bitcoin and then it goes down
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$1,000 and then up $700.
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But that's because it's crazy the variability.
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That type of trading is all done by algorithm, right?
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So none of that has any reflection to real people making any real decisions.
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That's all machines who are playing the game against each other.
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It's like, it's like chess computers playing chess against other chess computers, which
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by the way, check out AlphaGo Plus because that is the end of humanity right there.
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In three hours, they developed a chess playing computer that taught itself chess and now
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is the best chess player in the history of the universe.
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It's incredible.
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We're all going to die.
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We're all going to die.
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That's nuts.
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But the conversation about a benign and benevolent AI has ended.
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They will just destroy us at every sport.
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That's bullshit though.
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That's all they're going to do.
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That's bullshit.
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We're going to teach them the rules of track and the AI is going to figure out how to murder
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Usain Bolt.
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I think that's the only actual, that's a weird end result.
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Here's why I will take issue with what you're saying.
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Okay.
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I think that...
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You're a huge Usain Bolt fan?
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Well, he's great.
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I think he's great.
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He runs fast.
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But he's a runner.
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He runs fast.
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He seems like a cool guy.
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I don't know.
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No.
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He's a cool guy.
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He runs fast.
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I get it.
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The issue is the idea of benevolence within a computer or something like that.
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Maybe destroying a lot of this stuff is benevolent.
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No, I agree.
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And our human calculations can't put that into...
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The only way to save the human race is to destroy it, which is what any AI would correctly
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assume and then would begin fucking...
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That's why the problem with Avengers Age of Ultron is that Ultron was the good guy.
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But that's also...
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Well, I mean, this goes back to wrestling again.
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We were talking about this in...
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Doesn't it always go back to wrestling?
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We were talking about this off air, but the heels are always right.
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Generally, the bad guy has a point.
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And the good guy is just some smiling jackass.
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Everybody is the smiling jackass and the harsh truth of we need to stop doing what we're
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doing is the bad guy.
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And maybe that is just...
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We're projecting that into the minds of AI.
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Let's get off this fucking topic.
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We got to get back to collapse.
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Yes.
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Economic...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Let's get off this topic of made up thoughts and get right back into made up thoughts.
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So Alex, in this next clip, is going to introduce this idea that he's always been right about
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collapse.
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Always.
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Nonstop.
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Yeah.
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But then they have the New York Times and others come out and attack myself, Gerald
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Cilenti, and countless others saying, we're porn dealers.
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No, we're pointing out that they've engineered the system that's now collapsing to consolidate
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control.
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We've been proven right.
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But isolated, insulated yuppies living, I guess, off pension funds or living off trust
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funds from mommy and daddy.
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I guess they still think it's all funny.
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I wish I'd have vuvuzela because they'd be like, brah brah brah, or an air horn or something
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like that.
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Just like, oh shit, living off mommy and daddy, brah brah brah.
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You want a young thug style, wah wah wah wah.
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I mean, full disclosure, my parents have paid and helped me pay my rent in times where it's
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been fucking real hard and I couldn't find a job while trying to pursue comedy and shit
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like that.
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I'm very thrilled that they have supported me in that way.
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Which, if you want to talk about white fucking privilege, it is nothing to do, like in this
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circumstance specifically, this is skin color changing the game, but not necessarily due
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to any kind of racism intended by people, but inherent within the system of wealth.
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Oh.
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So if you were-
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What is available-
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If you were a black kid, your family is statistically way less wealthy.
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Sure.
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So would your parents be able to help you out in those times?
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Probably.
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I mean-
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Probably not.
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So what do you do?
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Well, I mean, there are counter examples, but that's not the conversation you're-
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I know.
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I know.
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My point is just like, just that tiny little thing, that little thrown off thing that so
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many stories revolve around, of like, hey, look, I was in trouble and my parents were
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able to help me out for a short stay, and those people never account for the fact that
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black families have been denied so much wealth throughout their entire lives for generations
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that they couldn't, they don't even have access to that kind of help.
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And it would be-
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I don't know why I just over-
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No.
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I don't know why I just hijacked that, but that's-
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No.
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It's a fair point.
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It's such an infuriating thing.
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Yeah.
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I do recognize the luxury that I had in that, and it sucked because I would have rather
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not that been the case.
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I would have rather had a job, but when I moved to Chicago, it was incredibly difficult
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to find a job.
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I had no connections.
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I had no friends who had friends who had jobs.
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Even your friends didn't have jobs.
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Most of the- I didn't even have friends.
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As a comic, generally speaking, friends don't have jobs, you don't have friends.
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Those are the two things that are true.
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When I first moved to the city, I had nobody.
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I had acquaintances that I'd see at bars when we'd tell terrible jokes.
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Exactly.
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That was it.
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And then I moved here with a nest egg that I thought was going to be reasonable, but
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it wasn't.
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It all-
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Yeah, $300 doesn't go too far.
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It was way more than that, but it still went very quick.
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It was a situation where you're in over your head quicker than you think.
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Yeah.
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That is privilege.
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Of course.
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And I recognize it.
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And I wish Alex would recognize some of he is before he points the finger.
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It's not a counter example to prosperity.
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It's not a counter example to his masculinity or his ego to own up to the fact that he's
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in the position he's in because his dad got him a radio job at a critical point.
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That would be humanizing on his part to own up to that.
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At any point in time, he was like, hey, you know what?
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My dad opened a door for me that otherwise wouldn't have been open.
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Immediately, you and I would have a not hugely different take, but we would have a different
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point of view.
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He could also even play up the, like, I didn't ask him to do it.
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He could even do that if he wanted to.
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He could even do that.
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He could do.
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He'd be full of shit.
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Probably.
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But yeah, he could play any game that he wanted to.
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Instead, he has this ego buildup where it's like, I've done everything on my own to the
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point where he's like, fuck these dumb yuppies who have mom and dad's trust funds.
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Right, exactly.
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Which is like, you're a fucking fat guy.
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It's so insincere, it's so, it just bothers me.
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I mean, it doesn't bother me in the sense that they're like, I'm triggered or anything
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like that, but it's just like, I don't know what you do.
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I don't know what to do with that, like that level of disconnect from your own reality.
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Oh, white genocide.
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Oh, sure.
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Okay.
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So, soft yes now.
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The people who are advocating for white genocide might be said to be in a cult.
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That's possible.
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But you know who else is in a cult?
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People who are advocating for not white genocide?
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Liberals.
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Liberals?
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Liberals.
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You didn't build your business.
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You can keep your doctor.
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We're not coming for your guns.
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And cut that in together.
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You know, when Thulsa Doom and Conan the Barbarian says, steel isn't, steel isn't strong, boy.
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Flesh is strong.
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Take the arm that wields your sword.
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He does this, this impression is going to go on for a little while.
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He's going to do a James Earl Jones for that long?
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He is.
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And then he also eventually, like it's not in this clip, but he comes back from break
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and they have found the clip and he plays it and he's like, oh, of course he does.
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He's like, he does this great thing that he does sometimes was like, hey, this is parody
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before anyone gets mad at me.
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This is parody.
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Sure.
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Also here is video of Obama.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Perfect.
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Perfect.
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Great.
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Parody.
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The body that God gave you.
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I will now show you the power of flesh, Conan.
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Simba.
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My child, come to me.
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Come to me.
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She's 400 feet up and just jumps off and falls.
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I'm telling Hillary could look up to a bunch of women and go, come to me.
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Come to me.
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My child, come to me.
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And they would just, I mean, I'm telling you folks, this is a cult guys go to YouTube.
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I know it's on there.
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Folsa doom.
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Woman jumps off platform.
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I'm telling you that describes the democratic party and the Republican establishment is
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a bunch of a loon.
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And of course the cult leaders are nuts as well.
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Briefly, ladies and gentlemen, today, one of them is survival shield.
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I felt that.
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I felt like that might've been coming, but I, Oh, God damn you.
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How amazing is that?
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That is ridiculous.
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Weird James Earl Jones refused to deal with that would get people to jump off a cliff
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for her briefly, real quick.
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Buy my pretend products because you're in a fucking cult that believes they're real.
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I've got to get briefly tattooed on me.
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I was trying to think of like, what would be a tattoo that would symbolize this year
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of my life?
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Briefly dot, dot, dot.
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It wouldn't be like, it wouldn't be obviously like, like Alex Jones's face or something
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like that.
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What?
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No, no.
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Everybody knows.
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Only tattoo that would like sum up your past 11 months is of course a picture of my face
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screaming at you on your back.
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Sure.
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That's exactly what you need.
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Yeah.
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Get back to season four of heroes or whatever it was.
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Anyway, so in this next clip, Alex Jones talks about his audience and then at the same time,
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like I told you, we're still within this collapse sort of segment.
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Right.
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This is within the context of collapse and so he's talking about his audience and then
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at the end of it gets into a weird sort of discussion of free market, but there's a fantasy
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that goes along with it that I think, I think it has to do with beating your kids, but I'm
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not entirely sure.
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I don't like that.
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Not on board.
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I'm not sure.
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Here we go.
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We've hit a point here in the metric where the enemy has gotten so naked about world
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government, their planetary plan, but the credibility of everyone opposing it, especially
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those that have been around for a long time is exploding.
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The listenership, the viewership, the readership.
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I don't know.
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I haven't asked Schneider, but I bet people visiting his sites exploded.
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He's talking about a guy named Michael Schneider who has a, he runs a blog called economic
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collapse blog, which is basically just, you know, he has these guys on who are like have
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prepper websites and shit like that.
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Of course.
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How to hide your guns.
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Right.
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And everyone like that.
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So that's the context of that because, and we're asking right now, we're riding a rocket
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folks.
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The globalists want to take us on an express elevator to hell.
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We want to go on an express elevator to a free market heaven and believe me, free markets
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create incredible wealth, incredible innovation.
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They also then create incredible decadence and spoiled rotten children.
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If we're going to have a free market, we've got to have children that aren't decadent
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that are made to work, that aren't given everything or we turn into what we've got here.
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A bunch of stupid, arrogant chumps, not everybody, but a large portion.
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Let's admit it.
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We are exceptionally stupid, exceptionally fat, exceptionally dumb, exceptionally mindless,
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exceptionally sick.
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We are a mentally ill, sick society.
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I mean, my God, they heat hospitals with dead babies.
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We're growing humanoids inside cows to harvest their organs.
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MIT.
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I mean, it's all happening.
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Just admit we're screwed.
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I don't know if I've ever seen somebody describe themselves better.
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What do you mean?
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I mean, he's exceptionally stupid.
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He's exceptionally fat.
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He's exceptionally simple minded.
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He's exceptionally all of those things.
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He fucking nailed him.
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Well, but he also is the child of privilege.
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He's the child of prosperity.
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If you were a therapist in that room with him while he's describing, like if you were
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just sitting there with him and you were like, and you were like, Hey, so tell me what you
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don't like about people.
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And he said that you would just stare at him and be like, I don't think I can have you
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as a client anymore.
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I don't like that these trendies have unkept beards and seem to be growing their hair out
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and have a cross eye.
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I don't like that.
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I don't know.
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I'm just trying to describe myself as best I can.
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Dan.
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Oh boy.
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Dan.
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You just described Alex Jones.
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So there's a couple of things that are important to take out of there.
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First of all, this, this, this whole mentality of like a prosperity creates really like rich
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societies, but then the next generation is decadent.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Make them work.
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Yeah.
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That's yeah.
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There have been zero studies that have shown that only increases domestic violence throughout.
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But it's also a cowardly dodge for him because he's on the right side of that generation
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line.
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So it is a thing where it's like, I don't know what you're trying to protect here.
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But then beyond that, history doesn't necessarily show that that's the case because there are
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a bunch of civilizations that have generationally just been prosperous over and over and over
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again.
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And those are ones that understand the in and out flow of resources.
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The ones that understand that what you need to do is create either a balance or a surplus
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of things coming in as opposed to those going out.
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It's a very simple calculus that many Native American civilizations and tribal civilizations
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understood thoroughly well that you can create a homeostasis that works incredibly well and
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creates prosperity and doesn't deteriorate.
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I mean, your best example of that is, I mean, here's the way to go.
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We've referenced the dollop many times, but listen to the podcast about the Acadians.
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And you're going to be like, oh, that's the way to do it, shit.
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Everything we did is wrong.
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Well, tell the audience, tell people a little bit about what you mean.
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Oh, the Acadians.
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I mean, only only only 75 percent of the audience is going to go listen to it.
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So the Acadians were a group of French Catholics who came to Canada.
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And by virtue of one huge innovation wherein they created an essential, like, what would
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you call it, bulwark against saltwater destroying everything and the necessity of adding nutrients
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to the soil.
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And they made this certain situation, they made this certain group of, certain patch
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of land so fucking good, so fucking good that they were like, this is great, let's do this.
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And then everybody else got involved and fucked them over until they became the Cajuns in
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Louisiana.
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And there's a whole long journey down there.
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But the point being, they did something right.
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They just had a great place to go.
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And then you allowed capitalists in.
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Like, that's legitimately the situation.
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I mostly asked because I forgot what that episode was about.
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But anyway, yeah, absolutely.
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So you have a good situation and that does create, just like you were saying, a certain
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stasis.
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It creates a situation wherein everybody seems to be pretty fucking satisfied.
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And then you allow a capitalist in and you're fucked over.
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Yeah.
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And it does seem to be that on a very basic level, capitalism is about exploitation.
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And exploitation and a balance don't really coexist well.
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The idea of an equilibrium and someone trying to offset that equilibrium for their own advantage,
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whether or not that attempt to get their own advantage is right or wrong or anything like
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that, it just doesn't seem like those two things can really operate together.
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I don't know what that means for our future.
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I don't know.
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Who knows?
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It's a weird confluence of, like, I got very introspective today.
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I'm listening.
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Or not introspective.
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I suppose I got very long view, point of view situation today.
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And I'm just going and thinking about how it is humans deal with things.
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And there are these impulses that are...
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You can't really describe them as good and evil, right?
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Like there's one thing about capitalism that does benefit everybody insofar as if nothing
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is ever satisfying, you're going to constantly keep fucking working for it.
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Like with any kind of artistic point of view, a lot of the times one of the biggest issues
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you have is I'm never satisfied with anything I create.
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Right.
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Perfectionism and your output.
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It's garbage.
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It's always garbage.
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It's awful.
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Like you and trying to write a book.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's always terrible and I'm never going to do anything that's good enough for my standards.
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And so that constantly forces me to keep trying to create that.
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You know, in a certain way, that's a good thing.
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In another way, that's destroying and eating my soul from the inside out.
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And forcing you to never actually create.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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It forces you to create but never finish creating a certain product.
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Or even if I do finish creating it, to throw it away because it's shit.
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Right.
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You know?
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And that's kind of an overarching principle behind capitalism is it's never enough, no
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matter what we do, there's never enough wealth.
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Well, fun that I just realized.
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I mean, basically, this sums up Patreon right now.
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What's going on with them.
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I complained to you about this a little bit and we might as well put it out and discuss
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a little bit about this.
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But Patreon has shifted some of their fees and who knows, they might, by the time this
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comes out or in the near future, walk this back.
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I think they fucking should.
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But the thing is, what they've done is the fees that used to be taken out of our cut
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of the things people donated have shifted over to the people who are donating.
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And they've started charging people a certain fee per donation as opposed to for all of
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the things that they donate to.
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So it's specifically screwing over the people who give little donations to a bunch of people.
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And it will end up cannibalizing probably the capacity of people to support creative
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projects.
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Of course.
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But in doing so, if you look at the metrics and you look at the math, they will make so
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much more money.
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This is not better for us or for you.
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It's only good for them.
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This is better for them.
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And to that extent, I don't want anyone who wants to support the show to give more money
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to them.
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But at this point, if you want to leave, please feel free to.
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We will come up with something new.
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We had a conversation about this that was essentially like, we are so grateful to everybody
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who donates.
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And if you decide not just to not do this, because economically, if you just decide to
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not do this philosophically, I think we're on board with you.
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Totally.
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We love everything that you've done for us and we care so much about you.
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And if you stop donating to us, we're going to be on your side, which is a weird thing
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for us to say.
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Well, it's probably not good.
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It's that miscalculation that I think Patreon did that was like, people who donate to you
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are your customers.
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And that's not the case.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No.
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No.
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This is a donation.
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This isn't.
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It's a support.
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I mean, you know, technically you would think like this is.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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But I think the I think the biggest issue that we have is all of us are getting fucked
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over and they're the ones winning.
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Yes.
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A hundred percent.
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And that's the part where as the creator, it becomes incredibly difficult because we
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do need support and we appreciate your support.
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But now I don't feel great asking for it in this way.
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Right.
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So if you'd like to support the show.
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Which is not to say that we felt great about asking for it in any way.
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No, but in the future, for the time being, we're going to try and find a new platform.
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But until we do that, if you'd like to become a policy wonk, that that was an Alex Jones
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pivot right there.
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My son.
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Feel free to go to PayPal.
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Freezing point at gmail dot com.
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Yes.
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This money.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, let's move on.
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Yeah.
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We're going to we're going to figure out a way for this to work out for everybody.
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The point and the reason that I bounced off what you were saying to discuss that tiny
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bit was because that is unnecessary influence of capitalism.
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Yeah.
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They need to make more money.
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I assume there's some pressure from the higher up.
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They got a shit ton of venture capitalists to jump in and they're like, I would say that's
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the case.
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I have no idea.
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But whatever it is, it's a naked cash grab attempt that is undermining the purpose of
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the thing.
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Right.
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And that is that's capitalism in a nutshell.
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You got it.
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You got it.
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Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones still.
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He's still trying to push his disastrous narratives.
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And here's where he goes.
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What's going to happen, though, when the welfare checks still go out, when the EBT cards still
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work, but they don't buy what they did before or the food's not on the shelves, like we're
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already seeing in the shopping for snowmageddon.
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I mean, with with this ignorant domesticated population, the Pentagon estimates, as you
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know, that within about seven to eight days, most people will steal within about 11 days.
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Most people will kill.
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Oh, I remember this was percent of people.
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It's about 98.
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Some of the studies will begin within 15 days going to cannibalism.
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We're going to eat it now.
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Imagine, imagine the scenario in a real collapse.
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I am.
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And that's not how it worked.
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We talked about this the last time that we talked about this.
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No, I know.
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And I only brought it back in because he's really ramping through this.
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Like he's talking to this guy who runs a blog called Economic Collapse Blog dot com.
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Great name.
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And he's pushing these he's pushing pretty hard about the collapse.
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You know, like I've been right all the time.
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I've been right.
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People are going to start fucking eating themselves.
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And the context of that is like snowmageddon, like the East Coast got hit with like feet
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of snow.
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Yeah.
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So when he talks about like, oh, what you're seeing there, there's no food on the shelves
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like.
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And people hate each other.
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No one hate each other.
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No, I don't.
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I remember distinctly the news saying snowmageddon cannibalism.
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But him being like, there's no food on the shelves, like, well, you know, because people
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it's a disaster.
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Yeah.
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That's kind of how that works.
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When I was a kid, we had a hurricane that it was a gun hit our island in Hawaii and
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there was very little food on the shelves.
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Right.
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We stocked up and then it didn't hit and everyone was fine.
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Yep.
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But be that as it may, we finally.
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I think that's that's the one.
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That's a big example to me of a psychological truth, which is that we everybody.
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No, no.
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Everybody thinks they're a little bit better than everybody else.
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Like that's one of those like that's one of those things where you can go into any small
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town and as well as they get along with each other, they will you know, your family will
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think like, yeah, we're good people.
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But we don't know what those other people are going to do.
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Hannibal, Missouri, thinks they're better than Mexico.
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Yeah.
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And in any reality thinks they're better than Rala.
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In reality, people are like statistically people are kind of pretty cool with each other.
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Yep.
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We just don't understand that.
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And in a disaster situation, almost everybody ends up defaulting on the side of helping
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each other.
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Yeah.
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They want to help.
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Yeah.
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And it makes you feel like.
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Because you know why?
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Because you know why?
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The reality of a disaster reminds you of the humanity in your common man.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Because you start to realize how scared you are and you start to reflect on like that
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person's probably scared as shit too.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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And.
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Yep.
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All of those all of those postal apocalyptic future movies, like what there should be is
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a shit ton of communities working their ass off to try and help each other.
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Like you go to go to Puerto Rico right now.
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They are not being helped.
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They are not being taken care of in the way that they should be, because every single
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one of those people, every single one of them are Americans.
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And I'll be goddamned if you don't find everybody helping the shit out of each other.
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And yet no one's eating each other.
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Nobody's eating each other.
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Weirdly.
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They don't have power.
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They don't have water.
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There's no cannibalism in Flint.
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Nope.
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It's weird.
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Everybody's just trying to fucking get through it, man.
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Anyway, in this next clip, we finally get to the caller.
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Yes.
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That's Alex in a very weird direction about the collapse narratives.
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And I got to say, this caller is too polite, but the rest of it I'm totally on board with.
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This is my kind of caller.
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Let's talk now to Chris in Georgia.
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We got time for your question.
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We'll come back with his answer.
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Go ahead, Chris.
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Hi, Alex.
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This is addressed to you and your guests.
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You know, I know things are bad.
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Your listeners know that the condition of the world's economy is bad.
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But what is the character of your this year's economic bloom and doom predictions from your
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guests like, you know, Schneider, Dent and Kaiser that is different from previous year's
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predictions?
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Well, sure.
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We've been we've been warning of all this coming.
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They did unlimited money printing and manipulations.
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Once the world's already in civil war collapse show, our predictions have been incredibly
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accurate.
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You know, I'm not accusing you of crying wolf or anything like that.
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But how do we get a feeling that it's really going to hit the fan this time?
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Stay there.
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Stay there.
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Stay there.
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I'm going to come back to you because you disagree or it sounds like you're a skeptic,
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which is great.
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If you would have said that, I'd have gone to you first.
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So stay there.
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Listen, brother.
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I hope I'm wrong.
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I see the government building bunkers, getting armored vehicles ready, building FEMA camps
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and saying it's for patriots documents.
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So something big is coming.
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So this is the call.
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That's where it goes out to commercial.
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Something big is coming, Dan.
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Well, this guy has made a very good question.
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And I guess you probably have to do it politely or else Alex will yell at you.
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But the question being, I'm not saying you're crying wolf, which I'm saying you're crying
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wolf.
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Over the course of our history doing this show, I mean, we jump back to 2014, 2015,
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2012, and we just...
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2001.
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Y2K.
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But 2001, I'm going to give him credit for.
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Maybe he saw 2008 coming.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I'm just going to allow that and ignore it.
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But like the rest of it, like we just see constant, shit's about to go down.
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And he has these janky, weird, very differently motivated financial experts on.
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Buy gold.
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Yeah.
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Buy gold.
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Right.
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And...
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Buy gold.
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So this guy's question is real valid.
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Like...
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To the point where you should have a new word that just combines...
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Buy gold.
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Bigot.
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Buy gold.
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Oh, bigot.
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Bigot.
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Bigot.
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Bigot.
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Oh, it's like an ingot.
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Yeah.
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It's like an ingot of gold.
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Buy a bigot of gold.
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Yeah.
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And the question is immensely valid.
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Why should we...
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Super valid.
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Why should we listen to this when you have for years been prophesying a huge collapse
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because you are underwritten and broadcasted by a gold sale operation?
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Why should we?
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And so they go to commercial and then Alex comes back with this.
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Chris called in and he said, if you just join us, how is this different from all of your
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past predictions that we're gonna have big collapses like the one we had before 2008
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or the last few years?
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We're talking about unlimited derivatives worse than 2008 banks, you know, digging in
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government Ministry of Defense reports in 2007 in England saying they think basically
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economic collapse, 2016, 2017 Pentagon saying the same thing Pentagon two years ago, trying
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to set up camps for 3 million people to, quote, re-educate the public.
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This is all that stuff that we talked about on an episode a couple months back, just completely
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misrepresenting all of this.
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Now, I'm not saying they're gonna use those, but that's at army.mil.
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I mean, that's sensational.
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Armored vehicle saying they're for the veterans and gun owners.
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I have the sheriff's on video saying all over the country, we told you, of course, before
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they admitted it because we had the manuals.
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Sure.
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You know, we got the secret documents, remember, seven years ago about for veterans and gun
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owners and Christians being the big enemy?
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So they are.
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Well, I mean, let's be honest.
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Well, one piece of this one piece of this is that army.mil documents that he is completely
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misrepresenting.
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Yeah.
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And the other part of it is statistics have shown in the last since 9-11.
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In the last since 9-11?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Something to the tune of like 70% of domestic terrorism events have been white dudes.
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It's always been white dudes.
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Yeah.
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And sure, there are some Islamic folk who do it, but it's a drastic minority comparatively.
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So the idea that law enforcement agencies would put out memos where they're like, gotta
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be worried about these sovereign citizens.
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They keep shooting cops and stuff like that.
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It's not...
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Or the idea that as tragic as it is, because I think that the perpetrators are victims
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themselves, in a certain way, the idea of returning veterans being shell-shocked, which
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is not a real thing, but like having PTSD and killing their spouses or...
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Back when I was a kid, when we were prosperous, we called them pussies.
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Right.
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They had shell shock.
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They were cowards.
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Right.
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Didn't have PTSD.
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But the idea of departments being aware of that and being prepared to deal with the fact
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that in the modern warfare scenario, they're trained in improvised explosives and shit
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like that, that doesn't seem that weird to me.
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That doesn't seem like bias.
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That seems like cops being prepared.
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In general, to me, the way to deal with American news is, first off, if you are hearing about
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it in the news, that means it's novel or rare.
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Right.
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It bleeds or it's sexy.
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Or it fits in a narrative that's already pre-programmed in there.
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So that's why you see...
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Because it's easy.
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Yeah.
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That's why you see MSNBC, which is supposedly supposed to be somehow related to progressives,
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picking up the same narratives that you have from Fox News.
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Because Fox News, they pick up sexy fucking narratives.
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So that idea of white terrorism, that's not really talked about because it's not novel.
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We've been dealing with white terrorism for a long fucking time.
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Since the Mary Tyler Moore days.
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And it doesn't fit with the narrative of a post-9-11 America wherein we're terrified
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of Muslims.
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Right, right, right.
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So if you have those two things going on, filter every bit of your news through, if
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I'm hearing about this, this is probably not a frequent thing.
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And if I'm hearing about this and it fits in a narrative, it's probably not an issue.
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That's generally how it works.
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I think that's fair.
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Like the TSA is full of shit.
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Like everything, they don't do anything successful.
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They inconvenience everybody and it's a cartel and everybody can go fuck themselves.
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It's fucking pathetic.
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Anyways, continue.
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I also hear that the TSA is on the roads.
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They are.
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Back in 2001.
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Well, actually the Arkansas TSA is on the roads.
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Right, right.
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So we have one more clip before my punchline.
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And Alex is getting really defensive about this caller who's called in and been like,
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why is this any different than any of your other collapse narratives?
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And in defense of it, in that last clip, what we heard is him lying about stuff about internment
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camps and the cops trying to get, like, hey, white people are as likely or more likely
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to be people who...
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More likely.
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100% more likely.
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But even that is seven years old.
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Yeah.
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Like that is not current.
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Right.
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So, but he's using these narratives, which are lies that are irrelevant to the topic
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at hand, to bolster his, like, this time the collapse narrative that I'm pitching is real.
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Right.
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When in the course of this podcast that we've done over the last year, we've heard him push
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back the disaster's coming this fall.
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Nope.
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Sorry.
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Winter.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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No, he's a doomsday evangelist.
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Right.
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He does this over and over again.
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The apocalypse is coming on December 9th, 2019 instead of December...
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I read the prophecy wrong.
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I'm mixing two points here, sort of intentionally, because he is as well, like, one point is
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he is guilty of this.
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He does this all the time.
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But the other part is, the other prong that I'm going on is he's bringing up irrelevant
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other lies in order to bolster the economic collapse lie.
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Right.
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The economic collapse lie is unrelated to the idea of army.mil and all that shit.
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Right.
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Right.
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It's related to the Kentucky Fried Chicken double-down of lies.
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And so he has to bring it together, and he tries to, with a dumb metaphor, and then we
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find out what is really behind it.
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And it's something that you and I are...
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If you ad-pivot me, I swear to God, Dan.
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I promise you there's no ad-pivot, but we already know...
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You've lied to me in the past about economic collapses and ad-pivots.
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We already know what's behind this, and he spells it out in an embarrassing way.
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Ted Koppel?
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So it's kind of like knowing Hitler's gonna invade France in 1939, but you don't know
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exactly when, and then finally it happens.
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So first of all, I didn't mean to...
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Oh, boy.
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I didn't mean to pause it there, but I do need to point out that what he's saying...
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You know he's gonna invade in 1939, whatever.
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He gave a specific year, but what he's talking about is, you know it's gonna happen eventually,
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you just don't know when it's gonna happen.
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Right, right, right.
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And that kind of mentality is incredibly dangerous, because it's just like, I'll eventually be
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right.
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Like if I...
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Right.
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I don't believe wholeheartedly in Bitcoin.
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We talked about this a little bit already.
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Right.
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I think there's a lot of variability to it.
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I don't fully understand the system, but for me to say, Bitcoin will collapse.
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If I keep saying that long enough, eventually there will be a big fall in it.
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Right.
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And I could say, I knew it all along.
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Right.
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I knew the game Alex is playing now.
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That's what he's saying.
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It's like saying, you know it's gonna happen eventually, and now it happens.
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Right.
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It's like, that's dumb.
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Well, the thing is...
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That goes back to the preacher you're talking about.
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So here's the situation, Bitcoin will collapse.
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But if I told you I knew when it would happen, or I knew how far it would collapse, or et
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cetera, et cetera...
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Bitcoin's gonna collapse in the summer of rage.
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I'd be fucking insane.
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Sorry, it's gonna be in the fall.
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I can tell you right now, it's not worth what it's worth right now.
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Everybody's gonna find out.
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I don't know when.
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I don't know how much it's not worth, how much it's not worth.
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I don't know anything other than mathematically, that's not how it works.
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Right, right.
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So anyway, let's get back to this.
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I just really disrespect the idea of the argument that like, you know it's gonna happen eventually.
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I will be right eventually.
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Well, that's true of everything I've ever said.
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Especially with any market.
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Believe me, when white genocide happens, people are gonna come to this show and be like, holy
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shit, Jordan knew it the whole time.
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But I could say right now, potatoes are overvalued.
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I could just choose a random commodity.
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Don't talk about my people.
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I could just be like, find cabbage.
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We lived through that, okay?
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Cabbage.
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I could just choose any random produce and just be like, eventually the bottom is gonna
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fall out of this market.
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And then just keep saying it.
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And then when it goes up, I could be like, it's overinflated.
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You guys need to understand, everyone's into cabbage right now, but they don't understand
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the realities of the cabbage market.
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It's a bullshit game.
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You're describing the fluctuations as though something you can predict, which is bullshit.
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Right.
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And then when Soros runs around saying, run for the hills, collapse, and the Royal Bank
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of Scotland says, sell everything.
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That's a quote two weeks ago.
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I don't know if Soros has ever run.
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Alex is also misrepresenting the Royal Bank of Scotland.
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And then now the markets are plunging.
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I'm gonna put a graph on screen for TV viewers.
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He was knighted.
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For radio, this is how I'll describe it.
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This is how I'll describe it.
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What are islands?
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They're not floating things that capsize like the congressmen from Georgia says, okay?
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They are mountains on the sea floor that have been thrust up by tectonic activity.
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And if you're living up on the top of a hill or a mountain and the water's rising slowly
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and you say, oh, there's no economic crisis, you know, there's wars, 30 plus civil wars,
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mass death, doubling and people starving.
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I'd like to take a step back and just say that's kind of always the case.
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And it shouldn't be.
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We'd love for it not to be the case.
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But unfortunately, international strife is kind of de rigueur in many ways.
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In order for it not to be the case, everybody would have to come together and create a one-world
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government.
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And abandon capitalism.
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Yeah.
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Wouldn't go well.
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All over the world from, you know, 30 million to just, it's bad.
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And then somebody says, oh, where's this crash you're talking about?
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I don't know.
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Two years ago, restaurants in Austin had about half of what they used to.
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Now they just don't have anybody and a lot of them are closing.
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I mean, really good restaurants.
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Our audience has tripled the last year, but funds are coming at the same level.
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Most of talk radio is going bankrupt.
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Media is going bankrupt everywhere.
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Carlos Slim has to prop up the New York Times.
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I mean, and then people just do this thing like, you know, we hear world governments
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coming.
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Where is it?
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It's been announced.
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No, it hasn't.
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We hear all this is going to happen.
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Where is it, Alex?
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We hear they're coming for the guns.
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Alex, where is it?
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They're coming for the guns.
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No, they're not.
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God, I wish we're trying to stop the economic collapse, pointing out who's behind it to
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consolidate control.
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So what we get there is a smorgasbord.
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But the concrete evidence that Alex has that the economy is a disaster is vague ideas about
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Austin restaurants, which I take issue with because I don't know what information he has.
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The other being that his audience has tripled in the last year.
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Not true.
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Yes, it is because of Russian bots.
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It's the same period of time since the Russian influence campaign has started.
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You know what?
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I would say he's even lying about that.
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I think his audience has only doubled.
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Like the Russians wouldn't even have the gall to triple his audience.
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I'm willing to go with the triple.
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Let's just go with the triple for simplicity's sake.
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Since the time that the influence campaign started in the early summer of 2015, his audience
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has tripled and there's no more money coming in.
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And that he takes to mean the economy is a disaster.
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No one has any more money to give me.
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That is what he's basing this economic collapse on.
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All the indicators say that the economy is stabilizing or doing better, but I have tons
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of viewers and no one's giving me money.
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That's fucked up.
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That's the only thing he has to go on for this entire episode.
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Is just all this like, fuck you, there's going to be cannibals 15 days from now.
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So congratulations, Alex.
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You unfortunately proved you are not a Russian agent by virtue of the fact that you are influenced
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by Russian agents.
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His 100% being bolstered by fake accounts.
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His traffic is being inflated artificially.
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And obviously it's by these Russian people who would, I mean, go listen to any of our
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other episodes where he just spits Russian narratives about Syria, about anything.
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It's just, he is a Russian propagandist without being Russian.
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And so obviously they would want to bolster his position, his prominence, and so they
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do that.
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It's clear.
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It's clear that that is where his like...
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Indisputable.
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But here are the two things I want to end this episode with.
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The first thing is the intensity with which he thought that the economy was collapsing
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at the beginning of 2016 that led him to be, we must support Trump or die, is largely based
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on a misunderstanding that he has of his own numbers.
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I think that there's a chance...
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You know what?
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This is fucked up because you and I go through this thing over and over again where I'm like,
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there's a chance Alex could have saved himself and you're like, no, he couldn't.
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I believe that there's a possibility had the Russian bots not been inflating his traffic
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to think that he's becoming one of the most popular things in the world, there's a chance
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that Alex could have been moderate in his support of Trump.
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He could have been like...
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But you can't prove a negative.
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I can't.
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We get right back into it.
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But I think there's a chance, because at this time, even in January, he's still, you know,
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his toe is in the water with Cruz, his toe is in the water with Rand Paul, he wishes
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he was more of an asshole.
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So, yeah, but you're saying that he's just going to be a monster in a different way.
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He's a monster because he's been duped.
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Right.
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And I'm not...
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He's a different monster because he's been duped.
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I'm not trying to save him.
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I'm not trying to save him.
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He's a fucking asshole and a racist no matter how you slice it, undoubtedly.
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But I think in terms of the interest for history, what he has done, the way he, as a rocket-propelled
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entity, supporting Trump to the point of being like, we will die if we don't support him.
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I think without that tripling of his audience, he wouldn't have been confused.
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Like the economy is a disaster.
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I have so many people listening in there about buying my own products.
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I think, I don't know, I wish for a better world.
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Fuck you, Dan, that shit ain't coming.
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Summer rage, baby.
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Now here's my punchline, and this is from December 5th, 2017.
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And this relates to the knowledge that we clearly have that Alex Jones' audience numbers
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were supported and inflated by Russian bots.
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Now keep in mind, in March of 2017, Adam Schiff suggested that Alex Jones was working for
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Russia, and he got really drunk on air and called him a cocksucker and said, I'll beat
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your ass, you son of a bitch, fill your hand, that sort of shit.
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Which, again, fill your hand, great.
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Here's what Alex said on the 5th.
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And now their whole Russia investigation, as we knew, is a fraud.
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I mean, they're calling me a Russian agent and saying they had proof, but never showing
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it.
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I mean, it's just like telling me, again, I'm a space alien.
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I don't even know I am one.
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I mean, if I am one, I didn't know it.
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That's pathetic.
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There you are.
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If I was one, I didn't know it.
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I didn't know it.
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Great.
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Please hide behind that mask, Alex.
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It'll probably keep you from being prosecuted.
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That's called plausible deniability.
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Yeah.
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That's what that is.
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I mean, for someone who before was like, I will beat your ass for saying I had anything
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to do with Russia, to be like, if I did, I didn't know it.
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I didn't know.
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And he probably didn't.
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Why would you tell him?
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If you tell him, he's going to tell everybody.
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Yeah, he's going to blab.
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No, yeah, of course not.
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Yeah.
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So congratulations, Alex.
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I think you are very clearly the shittiest pawn, the dumbest pawn in a dumb, dumb game
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that took only one that's going to kill us all.
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Well, yeah, certainly.
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Yeah.
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But your part in it.
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Wow.
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All it took was listening to you to unravel.
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You know, it's one of it's one of those things where it's like.
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I kinda I kinda want it to get bad enough to where it affects him to the point where
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he has to say he's wrong.
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Like I almost I almost want us I almost want to be in a homeless shelter next to Alex Jones
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just so I can hear him be like, yeah, I wasn't.
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I was lying.
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Well, I got taken in.
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I think he I think I don't know if he'll ever say that, but like, I think he will end up
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having to like get, you know, get right with God to some extent.
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Right.
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Like, I don't mean God literally, but like.
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The things that are coming down the pike in terms of the investigation that Mueller is
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doing right in terms of I mean, look, in the last two weeks or so, we've had two people
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be indicted, one of them flip.
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We've had strong indications that everyone's lying about everything.
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Yeah, it's all a total mess and it's going to get unwound eventually.
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Right.
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And what seems like a total mess is because there's information that the public doesn't
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have that the investigators do have.
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And when that that information becomes public, a lot of it will become much more clear.
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If and it becomes public, I think it will.
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And I think Alex Jones recognizes that.
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Shit.
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In March, when he was mad and screaming, I will beat your ass if you call me a Russian,
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he didn't have an awareness that, fuck, I was probably a part of this.
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And now I think he realizes, like, based on that sentence, very clearly him saying, I
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was a space alien.
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I didn't know it was space alien is obviously facsimile for a Russian.
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He would never have said that six months ago, right?
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I think what's going to happen is he's going to have to create a new layer of bullshit
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around himself.
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And I mean, we'll see what that is, but I don't think I'll ever say he's wrong.
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Doubtful.
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Anyway, you know, if you like our show, that was an ad pivot right there, my friend.
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It's not an ad pivot.
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It's a get out of here.
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You got to get out.
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Fuck.
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I got to go.
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Yeah.
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We you can check out our website, knowledgefight.com.
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Yeah.
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We write stuff.
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Dan put up three fucking articles in a row.
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And I generally try to do three for being prolific.
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I generally try and write three a day based on the show of the day.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes Alex is shitty.
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So I got nothing.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes I just get too busy.
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So, but I try to try to, you know what I realized that like, look, I love you.
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Media matters.
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I love you.
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Right wing watch.
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You're trying, but you're not doing the right job and who can, I can hire.
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I'm trying, I'm trying to just do it myself.
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It's a pay it forward kind of shit.
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I'm just doing it.
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But yeah.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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There's all kinds of shit.
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You got a new article out?
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Spread the word.
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Each one teach one and what have you.
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But Hey, I got to piss.
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So I don't care for the games.
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Unwrap the work and go fuck himself.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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I love what you policy want.