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we are the bad guys. Knowledgefight.
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Andy, it's time to pray.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller in what huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody! Welcome back to Knowledge Fat, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes.
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Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan. Dan! Jordan. Quick question for you.
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What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, is this sauce.
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Roja, street taco sauce.
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Yes, by Casa Mamita.
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Alright, okay.
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Is that mom's house?
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Mama's house, big mama's house.
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I like it.
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Right? That was Martin Lawrence.
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Remember that movie, The Black Knight,
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where he time travels?
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Oh my god, I do remember the King Arthur,
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the King Arthur, no, the kid
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in a King Arthur's court, but it was the black version.
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But it was Martin Lawrence.
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Yeah, it was like Black Annie. It was fantastic.
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Oh, man.
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That movie played in a loop
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in the lobby of the theater I worked in.
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I have it seared
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into my memory, him saying
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you're down as a freak.
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I find it
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so weird. I think Martin Lawrence has
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one of the great careers of like
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this movie is overall
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terrible, but there's five minutes
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that are, I'll hold those up for the rest
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of my life as being fucking hilarious.
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I don't remember much of that movie
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if I even did see it.
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Oh no, I'm talking about every Martin Lawrence movie.
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He's had some good movies.
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From the late 90s to the early 2000s.
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He's had some great movies.
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And he had a good stand-up
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career going before he got into
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the movies. One of the greats.
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And he has the dubious
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honor of being kicked off of
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ever hosting SNL. That's true.
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Ever again, so you know,
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hey, what a career.
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Anyway, this sauce
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is that what we were talking about?
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I
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recently moved closer
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to an Aldi than other grocery
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stores. And so I've started
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going down to the Aldi a little bit
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more. And this has led to a couple things.
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First, I have
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a taste for Mamba
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candy now. Oh yeah.
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Oh, the Mambas are good. Yeah, I never really
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was interested in them, but then
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they're at the counter and so I
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always grab one. Up your Starburst
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game. I'm fascinated by how they
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manage to never have, like
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so you get the pack
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and then there's three mini packs
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and each is a flavor. You have like a
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strawberry, orange, and a lemon. Yeah.
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I'm fascinated by how they manage to never
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have doubles in there. Like
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two lemons. I mean, you know,
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I don't know how it works. Considering the
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number of times you go through a Starburst
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and you get one pink one and like
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thirty lemons and then you go to Mamba
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and they've organized, it's
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like Starburst is the southwest
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of candies
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like that, you know. Damn. Everybody has to
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line up like a fucking asshole.
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You never know when you're even going to get on there.
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But there is still a risk involved and that is
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because there's four flavors of the Mamba
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and only three packs in there.
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I do appreciate that. You may
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not get one of the things you're looking for.
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And you know they did that on purpose. Oh yeah, they did.
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For the Raspberry fans. I mean, you're going to be
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like, shit, I gotta buy another Mamba.
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That's how they get you. They saw it. They saw it
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coming. So anyway, this sauce was
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taunting me because I was like, I don't know if
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it's going to be any good. It's kind of a hot
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sauce, but you know, it's a taco sauce.
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It's great. It goes really well
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on a whole bunch of things. It's a good
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everyday kind of sauce.
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That's good. You know, I've done my time
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in the trenches of the like hot
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things.
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And I still like that from time to time.
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But I need something more
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like this as like a spice hammock
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for me in my old age.
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In your dotage.
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No, I recall tasting
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some of the Thai food that we
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ate together and wondering if I
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was going to survive the evening.
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Yeah, and you were getting like mild plus.
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Yes, totally.
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You weren't even in the game.
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I was not even a twinkle in my
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whatever.
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So yeah, also Martin Lawrence apparently.
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What's your bright spot?
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Bad Boys 2.
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Never going to be...
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You can't impeach Bad Boys 2.
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You simply can't.
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I mean, you could. For a lot of reasons.
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Shit just got real.
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Will Smith.
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Martin Lawrence.
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Henry Rollins.
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Oh god.
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I can't remember who else is in that.
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My bright spot, Dan.
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No.
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How...
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What We Do in the Shadows.
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Just ended its fifth season.
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It was a movie.
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It was a movie originally done by
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Jemaine Clement.
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From the Flight of the Conchords.
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Yeah, Taika Waititi.
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That's a relief
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that it was a movie because otherwise I'd have to
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really question my ability to
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passively absorb pop
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culture references.
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So they kind of
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reorganized the main concept
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and turned it into a TV series and it's
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fantastic. The writing is
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incredible and on this last season
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one of the great
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things about writing
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is that
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the best you can do
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is you can surprise the
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audience with elegance.
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That is a good thing to do.
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There's a million different ways to surprise your audience.
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There's a million different ways to emotionally
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manipulate. There's all of these different tools.
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But when you come up with a very
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elegant solution that wraps up
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everything that you want it to do
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then you just sit there in awe.
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And especially when you don't really
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fully see that bow being tied.
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Totally. Yeah.
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It is the best you can do
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and they fucking nailed it. That's great.
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It's truly, truly an amazing
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accomplishment this season. In the season finale
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did he finally vanquish the Rhymenoceros?
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No.
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More of a hip-hop
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apotomous
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defeat this time.
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Rats.
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The end where all the humans
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dead.
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Trying to remember other Flight of the Conquered
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songs. I was going to say how many more Flight of the Conquered songs are we
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doing? Is there any inner city pressure?
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Not bad.
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No, but you have to
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take a ride on the bus with the bus driver.
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When
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the
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bus driver gets off his shift is there ever
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a call that he makes from Bowie to Bowie?
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No,
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but there is a call he makes to
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Ian and Deanna. I don't remember
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that. That's a song. Nah, you
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got it going on.
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Alright.
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Okay, how long can we do this?
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Just another ten minutes
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or so. So, Jordan,
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today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking
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about, I had a whole other plan, but then
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life gets in the way.
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And Saturday on the
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2nd, September 2nd,
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Alex did a little special.
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Did a little special to talk to political
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prisoner Joe Biggs, calling
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in from jail.
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Having been charged, convicted
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and sentenced to 17 years in prison
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for organizing
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a seditious conspiracy.
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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Outside of what we already know
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about Infowars and our experience
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with this, this is actually a
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genuinely exciting and interesting
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thing that I would be interested in hearing about.
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An interview with a guy who is
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just convicted of attempting
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to overthrow America.
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On paper.
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On paper? That is an interesting
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interview. It is.
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Why do I feel...
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Not when the person interviewing
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him is sort of a confederate
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of his and
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they're invested in
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lying about everything that has to do with
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then it's not so interesting.
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Not quite Errol Morris doing the interview.
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No. An insightful
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self reflecting
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penitent sort of interview
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where someone is really taking stock
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of what they got themselves involved in.
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That would be very
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interesting. That's not this though.
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It's so crazy the idea
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of, hey, we
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accidentally
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tried to overthrow an entire nation.
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Not accidentally. Well, not accidentally.
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But you know what I mean? Not entirely on purpose.
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Yeah, you remember that show
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This Isn't Happening? The storytelling show
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on Comedy Central. There's always
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a number of those stories
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have a sort of like
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and all of a sudden I find
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myself in a situation where
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like and it's like this extreme
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nonsense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like
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a series of decisions that you didn't know
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you were making led you to this point.
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Right. And that could be
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you know something for somebody
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who tried to overthrow the Capitol. Totally.
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All of a sudden I find myself
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in the rotunda.
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Might as well be
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Mexicans got on boots.
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Could be.
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Got a bunch of references
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today. I don't know what's going on. You're coming in hot.
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Must have gotten
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some sleep last night or something.
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Exciting. Or didn't. Or the
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complete opposite of that.
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So we'll get down to business on this episode
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that also involves
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a big old star
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celebrity sighting
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appearance. General Flynn is on.
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Oh, I thought it was going to be Roger Stone.
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No.
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Is the celebrity?
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Is General Flynn a celebrity?
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Compared to Roger Stone, I think
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that an appearance by General Flynn
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is much more
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rare. Sure, he's hot right
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now. Well, but on Infowars too
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like Roger will show up any time. That's true.
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General Flynn
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you gotta convince him. You do gotta
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work for him. So I think it's a little more
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special. Okay. It also sucks.
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But
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we'll get to that here in a minute but before we do, Jordan
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let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Jay from Spokane
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the reheated in the microwave wonk
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thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Next, filthy flying monkey
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who evolved out of a witch's butt. Thank you
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so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy
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wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Next, this is in parentheses or a bracket
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excuse me, fake laughter so that's
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your bailiwick.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next, all one word, Diamond
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Rhodes. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And
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Dandy and Jordansis
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I love you from another stupid
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Let's Play channel. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
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I think that's a channel
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because it's all capital letters.
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Another stupid Let's Play channel.
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We had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, too
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so thank you so much to Charlie
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the cat dad to Ezra, Emmett,
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Ellie, Eugene, and Elliot Hoke.
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You are now a technocrat.
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Where's the, okay, there it is.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Jar Jar Binks
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has a Caribbean
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black accent. He's a loser
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little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much.
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So, uh, Jordan, one
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thing that we wanted to do
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we don't do a great job of
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these sorts of things. And maybe
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we never do, but
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we never do
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much promoting of things.
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But our trip to the
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UK is coming up in the
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I mean
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we talked about this before we recorded
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last time that like, man
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it's soon. It's happening.
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It's happening and it is crapped up.
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It is really a lot closer
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than I thought it was ever going to be.
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and then at the same time are trying to
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just like keep moving with
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the work that's at hand
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and stuff, you lose sight
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of time a little bit. And it's like
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okay, well, it's July. Nope.
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It's September. Why worry about the future?
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I kind of don't believe I'm going to have one right now.
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Right, and then you do and here we are.
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Oh, I'm kind of regretting having a future
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right now. Yeah, so
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we have, of course, the Glasgow
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show, the London shows, and those
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are sold out. Those are sold out, yes.
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I mean, who knows, maybe
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if you showed up there might
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be someone who didn't show up.
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I don't know if that's the case and I don't want to
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encourage people. I've seen
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only like, so if
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you're on the waiting list
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I've seen a few tickets cancel
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and then people snatch them up almost immediately
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too. That's great that there's that system
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there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also
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we are going to be in Manchester
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for the QED festival
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and tickets are still available for that.
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Now, granted, we
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have a live show there and I'm going to be
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doing a presentation
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about Alex Jones
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which
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PowerPoint might be involved.
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Oh no, damn.
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Can we set up
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a thing where I get to heckle you? Yes.
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Okay. Yeah. I hope you
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sit on stage at a little booth.
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I need a crutch.
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Have a dunk tank.
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Alright? I don't want a dunk tank but
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No, for me. I'll be in the dunk tank
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and then if anything is ever
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going into trouble
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you can always just throw a ball, hit the dunk tank
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and I'm down in there and you're like, alright, we're back at it.
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Or too much sass.
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Then I throw the ball. Me, too much sass?
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It's possible. That's fair.
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You gotta get soaked.
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But there are tickets still available
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to the QED Fest as a whole.
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It is like a larger
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ticket but it is a lot more
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people speaking and a lot
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of interesting skeptic
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type presentations.
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Also some other
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entertainment. I'm not exactly sure
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of all of the other things that are there.
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But yeah, we'll have our live show
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there and so
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if you're
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in the UK and you're desperate to see
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us and you didn't get in on those tickets
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those are available. Yeah.
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Absolutely. And it's a good
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I've heard nothing but very
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positive things about the vibe.
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Which to me,
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I understand that you can explain to me
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what's going to happen at the
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conference or whatever it is.
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But I'm a comic so I'm gonna go in there
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and I'm gonna be like, these people aren't that funny.
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But
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what I've heard from everybody is that
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when you're there the vibe is so cool
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everybody's so welcoming, everybody's
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so nice. So that's what I'm looking forward to.
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Yeah, definitely. Everything that
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I've heard from folks has been
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just
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a little bit less than
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early MaxFunCon
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talks. Yeah, there is a little bit of that.
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I do remember that. Remember how that felt like
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oh, they're building a cult. Whoa!
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What is Jon Hodgman
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doing to these people right now?
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What is going on in their brains?
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This is like, it's a positive time, everybody's
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nice, but we're not a cult. We're not a cult.
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That's what the QED vibe seems to be.
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The exact opposite of a cult.
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So you can check out their website
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and if you
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want to come see us. And because it's a
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festival, we'll probably be walking around
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and we will probably be walking around.
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You know, I probably wouldn't
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mind talking to somebody
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if they bothered me.
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I'm trying to sweeten the pot here.
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Let's come to QED.
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You might randomly wander into
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Dan's field of vision as he runs
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away and hides in his room. I won't do that.
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Oh, I know. I'll walk away.
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I'm not running. You'll take the elevator.
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So, Jordan, today
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we have the Saturday
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special.
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Which,
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yeah, it is what it is.
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Here's where we start.
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It is 11
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12 central standard
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time. We are coming to you from the
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Austin
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and for the next 45 minutes
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General Flynn
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one of the leading
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minds in the fight against the globalists
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is joining us and then Joe Biggs is scheduled
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if he can get through from prison
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true political prisoner
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to be joining us as well after he was
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sentenced to 17 years in prison
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two days ago for
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committing absolutely no crime. None.
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So one of the fun vibes about
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this is because he's calling in from prison
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and it's not like the last time
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where he had a cell phone
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he can only call for 15 minutes at a
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time. I think he's, I don't
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know, he might be calling them collect or
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something. But anyway, there's
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a voice that says, you have one minute
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left that plays and then he
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disappears and he has to call back later
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and I don't understand why there was
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a second call. He ran out of steam
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in the first call. It's just asking for
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money. That's really all it is.
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He's going to be in prison for a
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long time. So his
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ability to make money will be
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lessened. Especially since slavery
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is still legal in this country if you
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are a felon. It's true.
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Yeah. Yeah. And the
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sort of agitation and
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street violence business isn't hot
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in prison. It's not giving you
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That's what's on his resume.
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Yeah. Yeah. Agitating and
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street violence. Yeah. And I mean you think
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that when you are good at agitating
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and street violence outside that you can
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bring those skills inside. No no no. Not always
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the case. People
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inside are really good. A lot of them
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are really good. They have a lot of practice.
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Not all. Not all prisoners
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I guess. When you go from AAA to the
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show there's a difference.
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There's a speed check.
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There's a bit of a difference.
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So Flynn comes in.
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He's first. And he wants to
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talk about the GOP.
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I don't know. I find
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Michael Flynn a very weird character.
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I feel like
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he sucks. And he always sucked.
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Yeah. But somehow he's debased
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himself. Like I feel like
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him going on those
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like a reawaken America
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tour and coming on
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Infowars somehow beneath him.
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It's not. But it still feels like
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it is. Yeah. I think what
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happened for all of us
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is that we grew up in this
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generation of morning cartoons
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where the idea of being a
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general was such that
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you were clearly
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competent beyond reasonability.
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Yeah. There had been like
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elaborate vetting processes that would have
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weeded a person like
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who would go on Infowars out
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before they got to that point.
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And in cartoons that exists
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because there's no nepotism
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in cartoons. But in real life
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all of these people are fucking stupid.
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They're all dumb
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just like General Flynn. General Flynn is a
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nepotism hire too. Because his dad was
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Errol Flynn.
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Anyway here's the
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clip. Part of what I do
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want to talk about in some of the time that I have
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is the
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Republican Party. Where's the Republican Party?
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Well sir you've got the floor. But let me just interject
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because you're reading my mind.
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I want to
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before you have to go get into
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I understand you're defining for Americans
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the ChaiCom power group
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the Russians, the globalists
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I guess I should work with both but
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they're undermining America, trying to demoralize us
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trying to bankrupt us, destroying our cities.
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What is their
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I mean obviously I believe you would agree
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the globalists are the most powerful
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block.
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Here's their ultimate goal.
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I'm sorry Alex. Here's their ultimate goal.
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No that's exactly what I was about to ask.
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What is their goal?
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I've said this very publicly
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that their original intent
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was eight years of Obama
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steal this country, eight years of Obama
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and then get Hillary Clinton in charge
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and have eight years of Hillary Clinton
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and we would be done. You'd be done
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I'd be done. We wouldn't be having this conversation.
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So to your audience
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and to the American people, that was their plan.
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Eight years of Obama
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and if you weren't on the Obama
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if you didn't get on board with Obama, you didn't get on board
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with his team, you were out.
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You were out like I was out.
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And then the next step
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the next stage was a
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controlled political person
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in the name of Hillary Clinton
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and keep her in there for another eight years
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and we were blessed
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we were blessed that Trump
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this warrior stood up
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and using his own resources
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and putting his own life on the line
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and then that helped derail their program for a while.
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Derailed. They're ten years behind.
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Now look, it's not the truth
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but Michael Flynn could
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be Errol Flynn's son technically.
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Errol Flynn died in 1959
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No shit!
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Wow! Mike Flynn, born in 1958
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No shit!
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The year before his death he could have
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sired Michael Flynn.
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I appreciate the idea
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of like, hey
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if we had Hillary Clinton in there for eight years
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we'd be done as opposed to now
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look at us and how great we're doing.
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Right. Well
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actually, I mean, I disagree with the point
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that you're making because
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I think that their
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economy is doing great.
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Like, maybe
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not all financially, although
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I think that the people who aren't named like
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Alex and the people who aren't being sued
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by Dominion and
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the ones who aren't in prison now
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all of the folks who have
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navigated that territory
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are doing great. I think
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that ecosystem
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is doing well.
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Are they doing well or
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is it like
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no, I don't know. Is Flynn rich?
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These mentalities are far closer
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these things are far closer to mainstream.
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Yes, well that's fair.
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That's true. And if you're looking at it
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from a like, okay, do we have
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access to more people
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with our bullshit ideas
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and this
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then yes, I think they are doing better than they
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were in years back.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Well, I mean, that's probably because they didn't even
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need Hillary Clinton. They all went nuts at Obama.
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Yeah.
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And I think that they're
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you know what, it's an
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interesting question. We'll never know the
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reality because it requires a
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counterfactual present.
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But I think that
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if Hillary had
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gotten in then they would
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all be doing great because
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they're really good at yelling about the Clintons.
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This is a game that they've been
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playing for a long time.
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And they could play up the
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Trump should have won. You know, there's a lot
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of games that they could have played to make a lot of money.
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But at the same time
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the four years of Trump
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the chaos, the
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insanity, the
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2020 election
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all of that and I mean you
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have to factor COVID into it too
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and the vaccine. Like all of
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that broke so many
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brains. Yeah. That like
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maybe they wouldn't be in the position that they
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are with their information space
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if it weren't for that
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like four years of
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unreality.
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It does feel like
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they would be better off if
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they were kind of allowed
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to just be mad at the Clintons.
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The world was slightly
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more competently run.
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But it wouldn't feel as good.
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Like it was four years of a coke binge.
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And then they woke up and they're like
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I'm never going to be the same again.
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I took too much coke. At the same time
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you can get a lot done during a coke
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binge. You can do a lot during a coke
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binge. You can make a lot of changes to your life.
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You can make something that you can't
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unmake. Yep. Yep. You know what Michael
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Flynn's birthday is? The day
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Errol Flynn died. Christmas Eve.
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What? Yep. He was the gift
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that his parents unwrapped on Christmas
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Eve. Oh that's cute. That won the night before.
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That's cute. It is.
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I don't like people who have birthdays that are
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holidays. You
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don't like them personally or you don't like
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the existence of that being possible?
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No I think it's selfish. You think
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they have personally
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chosen. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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Alright. So you're saying that
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the spirit does choose the body
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that it enters. I'm not
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saying that. I'm not sure of the mechanics.
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That's a good point. What I am saying
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None of us are sure of the mechanics.
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What I am saying is like if you're
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born on a holiday, change your birthday.
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It's arbitrary. It is totally
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arbitrary. It doesn't really mean anything. It doesn't mean anything.
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See my birthday is great.
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Cause it's nothing. Yeah.
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I don't really have a point here.
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I'm just bored by Michael Flynn. Yeah.
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Anyway he has some Obama news.
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But he doesn't. He just has news that
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is going to be coming.
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There's the guy right there Obama. There's gonna be some things
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coming out on him in the next couple of weeks
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on Obama that his
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relationships that
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you know the type of person that he is
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Well you said that six months ago and now it
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has come out.
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You know the homosexuality. The fact that he's blackmailed.
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You're saying
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cause you obviously knew
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you're saying even more stuff is coming out.
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Yeah more stuff is gonna come out
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and I think that what we're gonna find is
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that we've been lied to
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so that's in the past.
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But we cannot forget
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that Alex. We cannot forget that we've been
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lied to. We've been deceived.
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Did I miss
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the news?
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I'm so confused as to why we're talking
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about Obama. And his
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sexuality. Yeah.
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Well cause there's big news coming.
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I get that you're mad about
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Obama still and that's fine. I get it.
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I'm still mad about W. That's fine.
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We're mad about things from the past.
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But we can't do anything about it and it seems really weird
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for me if I was just like hey
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there's gonna be some real negative news coming out
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about W in the next couple of weeks.
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What? What are you talking about? Why are you
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wasting my time with this? Unless
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it had like implications
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to a major
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story like you would care
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if it was something like
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I don't know. He had
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like some sort of
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It was news that he put out
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paintings of dogs god dammit.
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Right. And you could be annoyed by that.
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I'm annoyed by it but I'm not gonna be like
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it's big news. Yeah no it's not.
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If it had something to do with like 9-11
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or the Iraq war or something
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and then it
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might matter. Well if it's like
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we've got some news about W
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and through that we're going to take down
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Yale then you'd be like yeah this is
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some big news about W. I get that.
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But that's because it's a big story in
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and of itself and it just touches
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on George Bush. Exactly.
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This is just like
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peddling
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first of all I don't think
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it's true but then it's also
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tabloid level personal shit. Yeah.
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Cares. Yeah but I mean
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that's the problem though is I don't care
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about that for any human being.
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Not really. That tabloid level shit.
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So Klaus Schwab is
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apparently also on Flynn's radar.
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Uh oh. Yeah and
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Schwab's got some plans.
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Some evil plans. Yeah so here's
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what I think we're gonna see.
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And it's already been stated
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Schwab has said some of this
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I think we're gonna see something in the
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world of you know we've just finished
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with this book this artificial intelligence
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book but I actually think that
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we're gonna see a cyber attack
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or a cyber disruption that
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is so vast that is so
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vast Alex that it's going
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to it's going to basically
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disrupt the entire internet
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and I mean to the point
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of where it's gonna shut
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everything down and we are we have
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become so connected as
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a society and so if you
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I mean we were joking on
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the back you know prior about
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generators and you know you have a
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hundred thousand dollar generator but you got a
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fifty cent piece that's missing
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and so the whole thing goes to you know but
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Two men with exes.
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I was about to say I was like whoo
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maybe
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maybe he's maybe somebody with
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exes is going to the top. Uh huh.
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Someone called customer service.
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Who's the next level
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up the chain? Could you send me that?
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That's kind of a bland prediction.
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This seems to be like what a lot of the
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folks like Alex
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are kind of preoccupied with now.
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I mean yeah but that's yes.
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It makes sense. Yes there is going
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that's like saying there's going to be another pandemic
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there's going to be another virus that yes
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yeah we know. There at some point
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will be like a technological challenge
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of some sort. Yeah.
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Like systems exist
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like there is no perfect system
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necessarily there's going to be
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pickups in places and a good
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system is one
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that's mindful and aware of like
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potential problems. Yeah. And I think
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that most of the internet
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infrastructure is people are pretty aware of
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how important it is.
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You know one time I
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I don't know why
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I read this book on sailing
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or whatever it was and
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The Christopher Cross song? Something along those lines.
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But it was like those
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old transatlantic
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ships that would cross from
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England to you know I mean fucking
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the slave ships you know right. But
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the way you did that was
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essentially a crew was in
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a constant state of repair. Yeah.
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Like you're always repairing
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you're always replacing this board you're always
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replacing this thing you're always sewing. Like it's
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a it is a
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circle of repairs right.
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And I feel like we're coming to a point
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where we're discovering that we have
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not had that circle of repairs going on
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the entire time and maybe we should have.
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Yeah or we've been
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skimping on it a little. And we've been
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cutting corners here or there. Yeah. You know
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and that's not a good idea whenever you're
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traveling across the ocean. Yeah.
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Or you have a bridge.
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Or there is life.
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Yeah. Or death on the line. Yeah you know
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it is interesting too like the
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you know you have the
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people who are like in a constant state of repairing
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things and yet things still
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you understand are sometimes gonna sink.
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Yeah. You know like it is
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just an inevitability.
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Well I mean that's why we create gods
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because otherwise how do you explain
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that like oh shit I did everything
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right and then my ship
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exploded so Poseidon's
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real the end. Right. Yeah.
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Well that's what I'm.
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Sure. Yeah. So
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Flynn
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talking to Alex and
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Schwab has said this
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like he's broadcasted
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that this is what's gonna happen.
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These cyber attack type things.
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Sure. And so the question
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comes up of like why do the globalists
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do this? Why do they telegraph
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what they're gonna do? And we
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know the
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answer is intergalactic space law.
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Exactly. They have to. You have to
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because of karma space
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contracts. Yeah yeah otherwise the devil
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doesn't have his full power. Surprisingly that does not
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come up. Weird. Why do the globalist
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telegraph like people ask how I'm able to
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predict stuff. They telegraph what they're gonna
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pull next. Yeah. A virus is gonna hit.
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It's gonna disrupt Trump. A virus will
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defeat Trump especially what Fauci and Schwab said
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a year before. What?
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And then it happens. What? I guess they
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want to brag to their minions to show off
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or they're pre-programming their people
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because if I was gonna do something evil like that. A peacocking.
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Of course I wouldn't but hypothetically I
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wouldn't telegraph it. They're telegraphing
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that the cyber is the next big move.
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It'll make
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COVID look like nothing
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in Schwab's words. Right.
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So why are they telegraphing and then
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lay out how serious this is.
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Okay so for everybody right.
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My whole world for
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three and a half decades in the military
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was to think
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like our enemy
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you know was going to potentially act.
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Okay so I had to think about
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and then provide scenarios
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to those
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that I was supporting. The infantrymen
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or the armor or the aviators or
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the operators
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who were going to go out and do
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a mission to put their
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own lives on the line.
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So for many many years, three and a half decades of my life
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I had to think about what was the enemy
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going to do. So I studied the enemy. I studied him
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relentlessly. And
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what I learned, one of the big lessons
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that I learned is what you just said.
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That the enemy will typically
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telegraph what it is that they're going
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to do. If you learn
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enough about your enemy
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enough about him and you know you don't have to
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know every single deep dark secret that's in
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their heart because that's hard to say. But if you know that
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they're evil then you better understand
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you know how evil operates.
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But what they typically do
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and what they've always
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done. They've always told us what they were
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going to do. And people used to say to me, Jesus Flynn you know
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you're a mad man. Some of the
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things that you come up with that you say the enemy.
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For those that don't know, you never toot your own horn.
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You were the first major general
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I mean
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major person in the staff to say
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China's going to break and double cross this.
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I mean you basically laid all this out
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a decade before it happened. So why
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do bad guys telegraph? Answer that
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for me and then get into what you think's next.
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So Alex can pull out this whole thing about
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Flynn being worried about China as evidence of
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how right he is but that's just one data
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point. And if you look at Flynn's wider career
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you see someone that Alex should not be
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supporting. For instance Alex
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is supposed to be against the Iraq war.
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In his world it was launched on fraudulent
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evidence. The globalists and the PNAC
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pre-planned the war
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years in advance and had pulled off 9-11
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in order to make sure it went ahead.
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Does Alex not realize that General Flynn
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was a very senior official working
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in intelligence directly involved
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in carrying out that war?
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Flynn worked directly under General Stanley
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McChrystal, the guy who was the subject
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of Michael Hastings last major piece
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of the runaway general which led to
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McChrystal's resignation and according
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to Alex, Hastings murder.
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I get that Flynn is currently
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doing this kind of wacky conspiracy
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shit that Alex likes but he should be
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really wary of this guy who's entire
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career has been defined by things that
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Alex should be staunchly opposed to.
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And if I were Alex, which is to say
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if I were a paranoid conspiracy lunatic
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I'd be very ambivalent to get involved
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with Flynn. It's like Steve Pechenik
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like sure he says he's not running
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psyops on you but how do you know that's
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not a psyop? That's not to get
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involved. Flynn wrote
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a paper in 2010 called Fixing
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Intel and I think Alex should probably
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read it. This was a paper
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that was seeking to deal with the difficulties of
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collecting intel on
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insurgent groups and how the intelligence
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community could adapt to better gather good
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intel. One of the major
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suggestions was quote
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select teams of analysts will be empowered
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to move between field elements
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much like journalists to visit
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collectors of information at the grassroots
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level and carry that information back
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with them to the regional command
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level. A paranoid person might
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suspect that Flynn's actions look a whole lot
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like what one of these analysts might do
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if they were pursuing this goal. This
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is almost certainly not what's going on but
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as a rule if someone's entire career
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is stuff you've been against and then all of
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a sudden they seem cool and want to be part of your
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group and they're experts in psyops
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or counterinsurgency you
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should not give them the benefit of the doubt.
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That is bad operational security.
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This is not cool.
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Just because he's a celebrity
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or high profile or whatever
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doesn't make it worth doing this.
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I think
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this is very
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notable to me because
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normally
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Alex is telling us about how the globalists
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are doing exactly what he would
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do if he were evil.
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And yet in this case it appears that Alex
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is saying hey why don't these guys
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use the element of surprise something
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we all know to be extremely useful.
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Well it must be because they have
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to do this.
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Right. But we know why.
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It's intergalactic
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law. We know that. Yeah because
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Flynn's whole bullshit about oh no you have to
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understand. Oh yeah no that makes perfect
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sense. That's why you guys caught 9-11 before
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it happened. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck
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up. But that's why
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Alex refocuses the
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question and is like why do they
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do the telegraphing. You're not getting a concrete
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answer. And so it comes back to this.
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Why do they do the telegraphing. They don't.
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Space law. Yeah.
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Why do bad guys telegraph.
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Answer that for me and then get into what you think
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is next. Yeah they telegraph
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because they don't have
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all of the resources that
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they need at their
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beck and call. They need
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to rely on
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on other aspects
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of the sort of the geography and the
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Just like the average anti-flight isn't getting
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orders to burn things down. They just know
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go out and burn stuff down. Exactly.
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So they're calling on their militia basically.
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What? Exactly. It's like
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I've got to put that. It's a dog whistle.
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It's a bit of a dog whistle. So you
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guys don't believe in dog whistles so you can
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I was going to say yeah what are we doing there. So this is
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not at all what Alex has said in the past and it's
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weird that he's not bringing up intergalactic cosmic
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law with Flynn here. Feels really important.
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Seems like maybe he wants this interview to seem more
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grounded in reality so he's not diving into
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space contracts. Let's
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Flynn look at him like the person that
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he actually is. Are you sure it's not the
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interdimensional literal Christian
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devil who is forcing people to
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announce in advance what they are going to do.
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How say you Flynn?
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If I understand correctly the globalists
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telegraph their plans so that the
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minions can hear the dog whistle and
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then make the plan happen.
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That mechanically makes sense in the case
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of Alex's fantasy about Antifa burning
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down buildings but how does this work with COVID?
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Alex said earlier in this interview
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that people like Fauci telegraphed COVID
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in speeches prior to the outbreak so
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does that mean that like someone
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listening heard that dog whistle and then
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created a novel coronavirus
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to release? Like what the fuck are you talking about?
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No he was talking to the viruses themselves.
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Okay that's possible. They all got
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together and they were like how do we accomplish
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this goal? These viruses have an
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epigenetic memory to be evil.
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The point here
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is that nothing Alex says means anything
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and he'll be happy to contradict himself tomorrow
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if it makes it easier for him to spin a yarn
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today. This explanation that Flynn
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is giving works for the flow of this conversation
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and Flynn is a very high status
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guest so fuck cosmic law
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and the devil. It's just a human
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resources and logistics issue.
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They don't have the resources to pull off their plans
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so they dog whistle it out and hope that
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someone on the ground does it. Fuck you.
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What an incredibly insane
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idea of how
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an enemy would work.
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Like that's absurd.
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That's not an enemy, that's a cartoon that you're describing.
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Well not totally
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because it is kind of a
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description of some stochastic
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terrorist ideas.
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You put it out there,
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fuck all these people in the same way
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that you see this happen over
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and over again. People on Twitter
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people like right wing shitheads
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like the libs of TikTok will
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single out some place that's having a
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drag queen story time and then they get bomb
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threats. That is
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this. That's the plan.
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But that's not a plan and we know that's not a plan
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because it doesn't actually lead to anything happening.
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It doesn't lead to a
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thing changing.
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That's just
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blanket fire.
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And then the plan is to make a thing happen because
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that happened. This is just fire.
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Well things do happen.
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Well they happen but like a fucking machine gun
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happens and there's spraying bullets
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left and right. A plan is
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not a machine gun. No but that is their plan.
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Right.
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You understand what I'm saying? I understand.
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We're going back and forth on the same thing.
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This is descriptive
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not perfectly
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one to one but it is fairly
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descriptive of the dynamic
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that their
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terrorist
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edging ends up creating.
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But it doesn't really make
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sense for a plan.
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I get what you're-
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When you're in power- When you're trying to
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achieve something like a specific
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goal it makes no sense.
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When you're trying to
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just cause terror
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and yes that's the thing
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that we weren't able to put our finger
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on.
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So yeah.
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I don't know. I think this is dumb.
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It's very dumb. Yeah. Oh well.
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I mean because again
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why do they telegraph their plans?
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Well because they don't have the resources to
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do a plan. What?
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Okay.
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Why not? I thought they have like
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all of the fiat currency
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in the world and
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I don't know. Yeah. Anyway
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let's get literate.
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Sun Tzu used to say that- In fact he wrote
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about it and- He
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used to say- Back
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in the day. Back when I was coming up.
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Sun Tzu used to say this shit.
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Ah that guy was always saying this.
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We're on a first name basis.
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Sun Tzu used to say that- In fact he wrote
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about it and we- In fact
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he wrote about it.
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But everything in war
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is deception. I want people to
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understand what I just said.
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Because I'm lying to you. Everything in war is deception.
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We are in a war right now.
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There are some physical components out
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there. Clearly physical components
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over in Europe.
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There's clearly physical components still
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in Afghanistan, Iraq, around
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the world. There's physical components in every
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major city in this country
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and it's called things like
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defund the police. The defund the police
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phrase, that goes back to
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the Bolshevik revolution
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under the era of Stalin.
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It goes back to everywhere
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police existed. Oh that's in the State Department
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memorandum 7277
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from 1962 to disarm
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the police and then our military and only have a
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UN force. That's official
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policy.
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So there's a few
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problems with the thought process that these guys
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are engaging in here. The first
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is that trimming police budgets is not
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an idea that people got from the Bolshevik
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revolution. In the same way that folks
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who want to increase police budgets didn't
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get that idea from George Washington.
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This shit is stupid.
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Now we need to address the Sun Tzu quote.
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The full version is quote
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All warfare is based on deception. Hence
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when we are able to attack we must
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seem unable. When using
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our forces we must appear
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inactive. When we are near we
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must make the enemy believe we are far away.
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When far away we must make him believe we are
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near. It's important to understand
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the kind of deception Sun Tzu is talking
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about here and how it doesn't relate at all
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to what Flynn is talking about.
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He's making the point that something like
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defund the police isn't actually about
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defunding the police. That's a deception
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that the globalists are using to mask their true
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intentions which is to take over the world
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and communism.
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In this case it would be defund the police.
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Haha that's when we're trying to fund
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the police. Yeah
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This is a motive based
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deception that Flynn is talking about
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whereas Sun Tzu is talking about tactics
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based deception. These aren't analogous
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but Flynn and Alex know that none
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of their audiences read The Art of War and
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Flynn is a high status guest so whatever.
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It might as well be the same.
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In line with Sun Tzu if
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what Flynn brings up were actually
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deception then the globalists would be intending
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to raise police budgets by making
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the public think that they wanted the budgets lowered
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but that's not the argument that Flynn's
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making. The only other time
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that deception is mentioned in the text
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is in a section about spies
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and how you should have some spies that are meant
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to be caught. These spies would be
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reported to your other
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they would be reported by other spies
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in order to make the other spies seem more credible
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to the enemy. Well it's a classic
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you know if you want to get away with big lies
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then you have to get caught in your small lies.
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Limited hangouts. I mean it's like
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oh if people think that they can always
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catch you when you're lying
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then that's why you can get away with the big lies
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because people won't assume that you're lying.
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That's the trick. Again Sun Tzu.
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Sun Tzu. He was always
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saying that. Sun Tzu would not
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shut up about how you got
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a small lie to big lies.
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He's weird. As for state memorandum
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7277 that was
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it's not official policy
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it was never put into
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place nor would it even be enforceable
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in any way. It was a
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suggested plan in order to avert
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nuclear war between the US and Soviet
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Union which isn't even relevant anymore
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since one of those things doesn't exist.
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It did have some good ideas though like
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full nuclear disarmament.
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It didn't involve getting rid of all cops though
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as the final stage involved this
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quote states would retain only
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those forces, non-nuclear armaments
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and establishments required for the purpose
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of maintaining internal order.
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It's kind of like pie in the
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sky type of idealism where
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countries would be prohibited from threatening or
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attacking each other and an international
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body would exist to resolve conflict.
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It's a great end result
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if you could craft a functioning system to achieve
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it but getting to that
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end result is literally impossible.
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So, I don't know.
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Have fun.
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Considering it's been
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80 years
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since that was written. No, not 80
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years. Fuck.
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60 years? 60?
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70? Yeah.
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Late 60s? And
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no progress made on that front.
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Still got nukes all over the place.
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Still got cops. Everybody's fighting each other.
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No international body
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that has any kind of
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potence to
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get involved. My favorite
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thing about people who are
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martially
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inclined is that
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there's always
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like, ah, this came from the
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much more recent past
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than several our entire
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existences. If you
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are the person with fucking
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boots, you are like
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why don't these people like it when I
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ask them to lick them? I don't
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understand. So then you create
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cops to force people to lick
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your boots. No one has ever liked
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cops. No one likes cops.
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It's not a thing that exists.
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I like
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cartoons.
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Yes! Everybody likes TV
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cops. Everybody likes TV FBI.
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I like some of the characters on the wire.
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I like TV war.
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I like TV shit. But in the
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real world, this is all very fucking stupid
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and everybody who's doing it is dumb. I was trying
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to come up with a specific example, but I can't
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because I just have a generic version of a cop
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whistling and spinning the club.
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Yeah! Oh, show us
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over! Everybody get the fuck out of here! Doesn't have to be
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Irish. Doesn't have to be an Irish guy.
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But... I was going to say, are you going to go
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Belfast or Dublin? Which are we doing?
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Swinging a club around.
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Saying hello to the neighborhood.
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Saying hello to people.
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Petting a dog. I like that.
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It's not real, but I like it.
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Not what they're for.
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So you may be asking yourself about this
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time. Who does
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Flynn like in the realm of politics?
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I mean, obviously Trump.
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But beyond Trump.
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So I just want to take a minute
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to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., number one,
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they won't provide him
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Secret Service, which tells you
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everything that they plan on potentially
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doing to that guy. Number one,
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or number two,
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Kennedy, every time I hear him
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I'm like, Jesus Kennedy, you sound
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like you're an America First guy.
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You sound like a damn American
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who... You sound like either
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you're an old school Democrat
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and you're right there in the center of the
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country, or you're on the
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conservative side because of
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the way you're speaking. And I would say
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that even some of the things
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that he's written about. So I
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like him and I
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know him. And when I
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see guys like him,
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I mean, he gives me hope because
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the Democrats, the Democrats now
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are the Marxist party, right?
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So the Democrats are not going
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to do a debate with Robert F.
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Kennedy Jr. Why?
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Because he represents something
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that they fear, which is honestly
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and the truth. Why don't they
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want to have... Why are they going after
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Donald Trump so hard? Because he
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represents honesty and he represents
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the truth. Oh, crimes also.
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I was going to go with the crimes.
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Yeah. Yeah, Nancy Pelosi
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noted Marxist. You know, you can
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represent honesty and the truth and
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still commit crimes, but you would have
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to acknowledge that you did the things.
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That is part of being honest.
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Well, I was... I mean,
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I think this is all pretty dumb, but
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I was lost in thought
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about is it possible
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to
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like represent honesty
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and not the truth or truth and
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not honesty. Right. I don't
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think it is. I mean, beauty is truth and truth
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is beauty according to Keats.
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And he got that from
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Sun Tzu. If you
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represent something like, let's say
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truth, then truth must have a specific
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definition. It should not be subjective.
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Right.
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Anyway, considering that truth
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and honesty are both very subjective
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words, that can be very difficult. And very
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similar in terms
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of what they're driving at. Right.
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But look, here's the thing. What?
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Every single fucking election
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you do seem to notice that
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the Republicans are really
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interested in getting
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behind a
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shitty Democratic candidate
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and insisting like, oh, they're
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the good one. They're the good example
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of a Democrat. Yeah.
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Saw this every single fucking election.
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It begins to
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be a little predictable and annoying. Yeah.
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I don't think it's going to matter.
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RFK I don't think has the juice.
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I mean, I
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don't think
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there will be a
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plurality of voters, period.
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I don't think any of us
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want any of these people to be in
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the government.
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You may be, but
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I think that people will be
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and also Trump won't be allowed to because
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he will be in prison.
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I mean, you can run for prison.
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You can run in prison. Yeah.
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But you can't run from prison.
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Not if you've been sentenced there.
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Well, I mean, you can't run from prison, but then
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people would try and catch you. You can't run away
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from prison. You can run for president
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from prison.
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enough people would be
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motivated to go to the polls
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and vote. Let's
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say if Robert F.
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Kennedy is a legitimate candidate
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and there's a risk of him winning the primary
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against Biden. Even though
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people are not incredibly enthusiastic
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about Biden, the prospect
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of RFK Jr.
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I think enough people
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would be like, oh my God, that guy is a lunatic.
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His beliefs
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are not in line
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with most of the Democratic voting base.
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So I think that people would be
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like, we better not allow him
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to be the candidate. You can't surprise...
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Listen, I get it. A lot of people will be like,
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RFK Jr. Cool, fine. But then
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when you actually hear him talk, you're like, okay,
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no. Then no. Yeah.
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Also, the claim that he isn't getting
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Secret Service protection, that's actually true,
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but it's not a conspiracy. It's
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because they only provide protection for major
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candidates and someone polling pretty
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low super early in the lead up to a primary,
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that's not a major candidate.
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No. It would
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be unheard of for him to have
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protection this early.
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I mean, beyond
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besides, literally
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Biden and Trump, he would be the only one with
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He's also
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a fucking Kennedy. You could pay
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for your own security if you want right now.
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You know? I think
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what was it? I think we were talking to
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it was the Will Summer interview, and I
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was joking about how it was going to be Nikki Haley.
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Man,
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weird stuff is happening. Everybody
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hates to say it is. Trump's going to
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prison. Everybody else is RFK
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Jr. or some guy named
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Doug. Fucking Doug.
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Fucking Doug. I still don't know who he is.
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If
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if that turns out to be true,
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it will not be a prediction that I
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made on purpose, but it'll be really funny
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to me. Yeah. Amanda
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Moore was telling me that
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Doug showed up to the
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debate in crutches.
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Doug. And I
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was like, this is such bullshit.
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If Trump was there, he would have kicked
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those crutches. No, he
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knocked him over. I was like,
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this is not 2016.
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No.
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This is not Trump standing behind
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Hillary weirdly. Vivek can
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like, you know, do some
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bullshit and pander a bit
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and be weird, but like
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no, Trump was hostile.
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I appreciate, I'm
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annoyed. I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed
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at the GOP
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because we're all acting like Vivek
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is not. It's Vivek
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and I only know that. Don't care.
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Well, I respect people, like how
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they pronounce their names. Sure, sure, sure. And I
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only know that because in a freestyle
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rap that I watched him do, he said it rhymes
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with cake. That's the only reason I
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know that. Well, then I'll give it to Vivek.
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But again, the
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idea that in
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2024 election,
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the GOP is going to vote a non-
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white person, I mean
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that's insane. It seems like a
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very unlikely thing and
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the Soros ties earlier
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in life are going to be a real problem.
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I mean, let's just all be honest
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about the GOP more
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than not are going
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to vote for a white person
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above all else.
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Sure. So let's just be honest about
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that. You're all a bunch of fucking
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razors. Not all of you, but most of you.
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But if you have a community
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and a voting party,
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let's say, that is
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not, maybe not overwhelmingly
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racist, but has a bit of
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a problem with racism. Tiny
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bit. It serves your interests
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to have non-white candidates
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who are, you know, you show
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acceptance towards. Exactly. Even if there's
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not like a chance that they're going to win.
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It serves your interests. Right. It does
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not serve our interests. I don't
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know if anything that's happening in the GOP primary
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serves my interests. That is another
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good point. Yeah. These are all good points.
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I'm rooting for Doug.
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Man, can't go wrong
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with a Doug.
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I'm rooting for the TV show Doug. Yeah,
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Patty Manet. Yeah, exactly. Patty Manet
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is for vice president. First lady.
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No, they don't get married. How dare you?
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Wait, do they get married? In my head
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cannon they do. Oh, fair enough. What, is she going to marry
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Skeeter? They're in high school. Come on,
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grow up. Yeah, they will grow up.
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It was 20 years ago.
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Anyway,
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RFK, a lot of
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assassinations in his family. Sure. And so
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that topic comes up.
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One of the statements that Malcolm X said
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is, anybody that calls themselves
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a liberal Democrat, he said
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be very careful.
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He talks about liberals, right? He says
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be very careful about somebody who says they're liberal.
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And then a couple of days later when he gave
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that speech, he was dead. He was
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assassinated. So, you know,
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at that time
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in our history, physical
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assassinations were
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much easier to get away with. And then, of course,
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you could hide everything in classified
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or it's under investigation.
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Now physical assassinations would be very
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very difficult to get away with because everybody's
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got a damn camera. You know, but
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That's why the assassination now
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as opposed to one of the most famous assassinations
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but I rather feel and see
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that's their desperation
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button is, I see
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political assassination coming roaring back. That's
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and my gut's never wrong, general. Never.
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I mean we've got
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I mean this is the time and I hope it is because
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I hate to think that
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So man, that didn't used to be easier.
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We've got pictures of the
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fucking Archduke Ferdinand being assassinated.
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Yeah, and according to Alex
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millions of people were killed in the past
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year by a deadly vaccine which makes
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you die of what appear to be natural
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causes. Yeah. The globalists have
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heart attack guns and they tried to poison
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Trump with his Diet Cokes. They tried
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to kill Roger not only with car crashes
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but also poisoning him with polonium.
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If anything Alex says means anything
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then assassinations are very much in
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style. It's just that the people who try to pull them off
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have plans that are so dumb they
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sound like something Alex made up.
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Like, what are you talking about? This is bullshit.
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Also I did not look up that Malcolm X quote
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I probably should have. I don't
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know if it's real or if
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he's confusing it with
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Martin Luther King Jr.'s idea about
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The white liberal.
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I want to say that he's totally
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doing that. Yeah.
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That seems to be what I feel.
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But I would assume
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that Malcolm X probably had some similar
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feelings. Oh,
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no, no, no.
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Malcolm X was not a fan of the
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armchair liberal.
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I don't know if Malcolm X and
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Martin Luther King disliked
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milquetoast liberals for the same reason.
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For the exact same reason.
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Well that's the funny part about that.
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Don't you dare be like
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aha, see, Martin Luther
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King Jr. hated these white liberals just
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like I do. We're the same.
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Yeah, these people who I would
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probably root on being
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assassinated were I alive at
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the time. And not just that, but like, the
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people who I
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was. Like,
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if you are Michael Flynn
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in Obama's military
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cabinet or whatever,
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that's you!
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So we got one last clip
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here with Flynn, and
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this feels vaguely familiar.
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Yeah, they could be in charge
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of a big win in abominations or
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American culture. They'd be ten times more
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powerful, but they have a
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needle dick. Why do the globalists
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hate us so much? Why do they have it out for us?
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Needle dicks. They hate us
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because
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they hate just
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authentic, honest people
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who they cannot control.
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You're a spy!
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If you're truly here, it's like
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when I was in the
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tail end of my military time,
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you know, one of the
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and this is public, you know, one of the
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reasons why I was
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told to leave basically
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a year early from a job that normally would be
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three years was because I wouldn't toe the line
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for the talking points that
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ISIS was on the run,
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that Al-Qaeda was on the run, and
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no longer a threat. I just wouldn't toe the line
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because that wasn't the truth!
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I think that sounds familiar.
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Sort of.
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He's talking about why the globalists hate us.
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Sounds like he's saying they hate us for
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our freedom. It does seem very
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similar to that. Almost like
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the line. Yeah, that's
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weird.
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Also weird that Alex doesn't point out
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that the globalists actually hate us because
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they work for the devil who's told them that they need
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to sacrifice almost all of the population
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to feed Saturn and create a
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silicon god who will rule Earth.
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Probably doesn't want Flynn to think he's insane.
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I would doubt he'd throw that one out
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to Flynn. Also weird that Alex doesn't bring up
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his belief that Al-Qaeda and ISIS aren't
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real and are just the globalists.
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Probably doesn't want to risk Flynn flat out
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rejecting that since his entire career
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revolved around fighting those terrorist groups.
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Yeah, that's true. In a situation like this, Alex
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needs to just play along even
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though it contradicts his entire worldview
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because he's a... nothing means anything.
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Yeah, I mean, that Flynn is able
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to get away with being
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Flynn and then going to the far right
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is just evidence of how
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stupid easy it is. Or,
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it's evidence of his smoothness, which he inherited
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from his father, Errol Flynn.
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So Joe Biggs
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comes in. Okay. Now,
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let's go to Joe Biggs, who
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was just wrongfully
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convicted and sentenced to 17 years
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in prison, former Infowars
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reporter, totally innocent,
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charged with terrorism,
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terrorism sentencing
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for being there when
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Ray Epps broke through the fence.
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This is
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insane. Joe, I love you, brother,
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and you're a political prisoner
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and we appreciate you. I know you only
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get 15 minutes per call when you've
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got a call back at 15 again, so we've got about
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12 minutes with you before they hang up on you,
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then we'll be waiting for you to come back on again
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in about 30 minutes, but
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Joe, how are you holding up and you've got the floor?
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Hey,
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you know, it's all right. You know, my heart hurts.
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This is ridiculous. You know, they said
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the shaking offense was tantamount
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to terrorism. No, they didn't.
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But, you know,
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this is interesting. I think
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that it'll probably get less time
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in the future. Yeah. I would
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imagine that the
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Board of Prisons or the Warden
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do they still have wardens? I
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don't know. I don't know. I remember
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being real interested in the
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idea of wardens and how much power they
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wielded. I imagine that's probably
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movie stuff, but I still
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think that it's probably
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not something
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they're going to allow a ton, you being
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a guest on a conspiracy
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ass radio show that was instrumental
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in, you know, organizing
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and facilitating the crime
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that you committed. There is a
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very, like,
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if I'm going up for parole,
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right, and they're like, do
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you, you know,
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disavow your previous
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feelings and, like, do
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you not want to commit those crimes anymore?
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I wouldn't be like, nah, dude,
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I call into Infowars every week.
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Yeah, like, if you were a,
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like, let's just say,
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you know, you worked for
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a Nazi radio show
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or something, and then
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you were convicted
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of conspiracy to start a riot
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that ended up in some deaths and,
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you know, and all this, and you go to prison,
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and are you going to be allowed
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to call in to that radio show,
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that Nazi radio show that you were on?
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It seems like something that would be
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inappropriate, and you're right, I mean, if you
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want to look at it from a parole standpoint, it
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shows, like, a lack of remorse
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pretty hard. Yeah.
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That's the most lack of
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remorse you can have is calling into
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the show that you were a statistic
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terrorist on and asking for money
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to keep doing it. Right, and
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painting yourself as
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such a martyr in a way that
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makes it more likely that other people will do
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the same thing that you did. Yep, yep, yep, yep,
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yep, yep, yep. Cool. Yep.
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So there's a lot of lies in
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their interview. Oh. Yeah. What?
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I know, it's shocking. God.
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It's like, prison doesn't work. This is ridiculous. We went there
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that day with no plan, with
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nothing, we were there like every other American,
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but it's because we're a political
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group, you know. We knew
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that there was going to be a hit on us as soon as
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Joe Biden mentioned us
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in the first presidential debate. I knew
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that there was something going on with this
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and sure enough, even Enrique called
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it, they're going to put us in chains
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and sure enough they have. Hey, dumb-dumb,
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don't go then.
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If you had that awareness or
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something that you thought
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Biden had it out for you, don't go.
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Yeah. I mean, because then
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your argument is this, we went
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because we thought we were going to win.
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So if that's your argument, then
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I'm going to add another 17 years to your sentence.
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Right. There's no point in
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letting you out. Right. I
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knew that we were going to
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be targeted
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and all this and I was going to be set up and
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put in prison. So the only reason I
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went is because I thought we had overwhelming
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enough force. If we won, then I wouldn't be
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in trouble. Exactly. I thought it was going to work that
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we would get the election overturned.
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Yep. Yep. Yep. So
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Yeah, I mean, 34 years.
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I'd be fine,
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but honestly, you know what's weird?
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That's totally a good, that's a good answer.
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Well, it is, but it
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also shows intent. Exactly.
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Pretty hard. But that's what I'm saying, you know,
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like, I understand. But the intent is what he's trying to
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deny. Right, right, right. I understand why
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he's doing what he's doing and I understand the choices
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that everybody's making along the way.
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But to me, it makes
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perfect, it's like a reasonable thing.
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Listen, I thought I could overthrow the country
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so then I wouldn't be in trouble. Right. Right.
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Cool. Yeah. You nailed it.
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I had my back to the wall.
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Shit was bad.
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I was gonna go, like, I was in some
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trouble, but there was
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a low
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odds, like a
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long shot, a Hail Mary pass
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that I could get out of trouble.
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It went bad. Didn't work out.
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It went bad.
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Have you seen this in movies, I think?
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No, I mean, it's, yeah, but it is
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it is like they're trying to Ocean's
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Eleven it, you know, like, oh, we're con men
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that got caught so we can lie our way out of
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out of all this shit. And it's like, no,
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again, not a movie.
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I understand you guys think movies are real.
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Not a movie. Yeah.
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But, you know,
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the thing that we all really need to wrestle
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with is that there's no evidence that they
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planned anything. None.
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But all the, I mean,
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so many text messages. No, no,
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no, no, no. There's threads. No evidence.
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You know, we went through a long
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drawn out trial, five months,
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and not once
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did the FBI ever have proof
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of a plan. There was no intelligence of
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a plan. Not one of the rats that came
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forward said that there was
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a plan. Everyone said that there was zero
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plan of anything happening that day
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by us.
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And yet they got us for
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conspiracy to plan
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this. They said we had
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this meeting of the mind without
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ever actually saying anything. And it
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happened on the fly
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at the first breach. So
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apparently we all had this telekinesis
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power. We all agreed that from there on out
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when this first, you know, fence went down
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and everyone walked forward, that we were all
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going to stop the certification of the
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election. And that's what they
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got the jury to say. And the jury would
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have convicted us of sorcery and
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witchcraft and murder if that was up
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for the, you know, up to vote
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on. Man, if you had telekinesis you could have
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pulled that off way easier.
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I mean, you should have done it way
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earlier, frankly. This is a really brazen
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way for Joe to lie to the audience about
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stuff that's, like, really easy to refute.
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For instance, if you just read the
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indictment, the initial one, you'll find that
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they had an encrypted group check called the Ministry
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of Self-Defense, which was an elite group
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of hand-picked Proud Boys who were
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literally called the, quote, National Rally
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Planning Committee. Ooh!
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Biggs, Enrique Tarrio, and Rufio Panman
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were literally one of the three-person
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councils that were in charge of that group.
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On January 5th at
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9 20 p.m. Joe Biggs literally
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texted the leadership group, quote,
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We have a plan. I'm with Rufio.
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I gave Enrique a plan.
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The one I told the guys, and he
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said he had one. Earlier
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in the day he texted them, quote,
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Just trying to get our numbers
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so we can plan accordingly for tonight
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and go over tomorrow's plan.
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Multiple times in the indictment
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it's made clear that they want to show up to
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intimidate Congress into not certifying the
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election, and they have a plan.
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So they keep using the word plan. Happens a bunch.
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Interestingly, there's one point
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where one person said, quote,
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There's no planning of any sort. Everything is
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compromised, and we can be looking at gang
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charges. Stop everything immediately.
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This comes from the top.
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This was after Enrique Tarrio was arrested,
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and the Proud Boys rightly were worried that
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all of their planning that they'd been doing was now
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known to the cops. So they pretended
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not to be planning anything, and
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started a new group chat where the planning continued.
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And now they've been convicted
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of seditious conspiracy, so it's back to
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pretending there was no planning.
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Joe Biggs isn't a revolutionary or political
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prisoner. He's a coward who wants
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to roleplay some kind of man of action.
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He's perfectly suited to be a dumbass
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influence reporter or drunk
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street-fighting racist, but he has
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nothing else in him past that.
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He got too ambitious after the 2020
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election and punched well above his
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weight class, so now he's learning
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that this shit isn't a game.
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I'm still against the carceral state,
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and I favor rehabilitation whenever
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it's possible, but Rambo Joe Biggs
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is way down the list of people
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I'm going to exert my empathy
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for. I've got
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bigger issues with the police
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and jails
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than Joe Biggs.
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This whole, like, the whole 15 minute
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call, all of that, like, all of that
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is to fuck people over
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just for the sake of fucking them over,
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or for money. Like, that's it.
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So I am fully against prisons.
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Yeah.
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But Joe Biggs needs to be where he's
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at right now.
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And
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it is weird to, like,
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like, really
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reflect on
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there are so many people
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who are in prisons who don't
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get to make multiple
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15 minute calls to appear on Infowars
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and complain and fundraise.
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Who can't afford ten fucking cents.
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Yeah, and they're forced to
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work without paying.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we have a fucked up system.
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Yeah, prison conditions are bad.
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And Joe talks about that a little.
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Well, right now I'm at the DC jail,
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what a lot of people call the DC Gulag.
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This is the one spot that had a,
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you know, retreating prisoners, Brad,
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at one point. Owen said when he was there
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that he would wake up and literally
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covered in roaches eating his skin.
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Yeah, that's how it was
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in the building where they first originally
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had people. Now we're in what's called the CTF
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and it's a lot nicer.
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It's not as bad, but the food is horrible.
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You can't eat the food here.
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So look, here's the thing. They don't want to make
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these conditions better.
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They just don't want to be in them themselves.
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They don't want to experience this.
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Like going to a place where there are roaches
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and bad food, it doesn't make Joe Biggs
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or Alex want to change the system
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and they just
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want to leave it.
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No, it should be somebody else being covered.
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As soon as it's behind them or
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it's not exploitable for their
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use, like complaining that January
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6th people are in a bad prison
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where there's bad food.
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That is all that matters.
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They will move on after
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that to, you know, whatever.
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Instead of gaining
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insight and empathy into
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like, no one should have to deal
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with this. This is not fair
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to humans. Yeah, I've been in
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a cell for less than 24
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hours and even then I was
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like, got it. Nailed it.
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I know exactly what it is. I don't want
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to be a part of here and I know why
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and I know how to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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My experience was slightly different. When I
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had a DUI when I was much younger
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my experience was quite good.
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Really? Yeah. Wow.
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Man. I don't know. I was like super
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super polite to the cop and everything
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and I was in a cell by myself
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and he gave me
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like an extra blanket and pillow.
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So like
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I don't know. It wasn't because of any
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like, that is the guy whistling down
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the street spinning a stick. Hey everybody
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I'm your local neighborhood jail
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warden. It wasn't because of any
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like affluence that I had or like
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my dad's a powerful judge or
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something. No, you just caught the right guy. Yeah.
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He was a nice guy and I was nice to him
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and he did
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say as much like, you know, I rarely
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get to arrest people who are as
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nice as you. Yeah. And I'm sorry we
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had to do this. Totally. Yeah. I get it.
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But so like my
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view of it is biased. Yeah.
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Maybe that is part of why I have like
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some lingering like feeling
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of affinity for cops
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and the... Yeah
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my wife got beat up twice
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and has PTSD for her. Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slightly different experience. Like
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personal experiences. She has terrible teeth and a bad
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back for the rest of her life. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Couple of the people that I worked, like when I
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worked at some gas stations, you know, the
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cops that would be there, the rent-a-cops
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they were pretty cool too. So that kind
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of, you know...
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You know, small town Missouri.
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That small. Well, college town
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Columbia, whatever. Yeah.
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I mean you're more likely, it's like the
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Kyle Kinane bit, you know, like if you live a life
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colorful enough, you're interact with a lot of cops
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and eventually you'll find one who's
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like, oh I could work at
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Panera Bread but being a cop is five dollars
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more an hour so I'll just go do that.
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And it's just like a totally regular guy.
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Just like, hey, how you guys doing?
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Yeah, there's a dead body upstairs. No big deal.
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You guys partying? Somebody bought a couch!
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That is the
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unfortunate thing.
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And it is so weird that
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just that, you know, that
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personal thing of like,
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yeah, your
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Rolodex, whether or not
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you bring up your wife's
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experience, like directly
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in your mind, there's still like everything
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is negative, all of this is negative.
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Whereas mine is mostly negative
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from a policy and intellectual
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position but there is still like,
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hey, that was a positive interaction.
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That guy could have been a real dick to me and he wasn't.
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That's weird. No, it is
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fascinating because it is one of
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those like, it's more
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about the power and people
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who abuse power. True. It's not
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about being a cop.
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It's about the type of power that
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attracts the type of person
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who wants to exploit that power. Yeah.
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And that's the problem. There are many things
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in society that would work
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better if people
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had jobs that were similar
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to what the police are. Yeah. Not
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exploiting the power. Yeah, that's
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a really good point. Yeah, I mean that guy
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would not have beat the shit out of my wife
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if he was a grocery bagger
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or if he had just a regular
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like, just worked
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9 to 5 doing anything other than being
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a cop. But do you know what that guy wants?
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That guy wants the power to hurt
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people. And that's why he became a cop.
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Right, but then the flip side of that coin
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is the guy who arrested me also
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would have never beat up your wife. Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah. Never would have beat up my wife. But he was
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a guy wearing a uniform. Yeah. The same thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hmm. Yeah.
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Anyway, um,
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nothing that happens in this interview
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is in any way as interesting as
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that conversation we just had. Possibly.
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So a lot of people have been talking some
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shit about Joe. Yeah.
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They are saying that he cried
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at trial. No!
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And he wants to clear the record up
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about this. Of course. He's a man.
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Well, I saw the left make fun of you that you
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cried when they said
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17 years. But, I mean
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obviously you're not, 17 years
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and you've been given this
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evil tyranny and can't see
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your daughter. I would cry too. They are
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sick, evil people. Well, actually
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no. The 17 years came after the
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fact that I cried. I cried when I brought up my daughter.
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The tears that I had were from my daughter
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and my daughter alone. Not anything
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that the judge had to say to the prosecution.
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Um, after I spoke and I
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you know, I had gotten emotional about my daughter
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I sat down and that's when the judge read the 17
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years. Oh, so they even spun that
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that you cried after the sentence. You cried for your
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daughter. Yeah, I cried
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for my daughter. That was it. There was no, anybody
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in that courtroom, I got letters today
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saying it was emotional to hear you talk about your daughter.
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But it had nothing to do with the sentencing.
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I sat there and took that like a man. I looked
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at him and did whatever I had to do. You know, and I
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walked out of there with my head held high.
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I feel so bad for his daughter
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but I don't feel bad for him based
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on that. Yeah. You knew
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you had a daughter when you went
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to the Capitol and did what you did.
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You knew that you had a daughter
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when you were engaging in these group chats
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and all this stuff. You knew
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the risk you were taking. You
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didn't care enough about your connection with your daughter
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to stop doing that shit.
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Right? I mean like that's the only thing
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that you can come away from it with.
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You made a choice. That's coward. You know
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but that's what we're describing here is the cowardice
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of that. Like again if he was like
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hey I did this because I thought
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I could raise my daughter as a fucking
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aristocrat in Trump's
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yeah it is a duke. That's what
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I was doing. I was trying to give her the best possible
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life and I lost. It's delusional
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but it would make sense. It would make sense
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from A to B to C. Exactly. And you'd be
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like yep that's why you did it. I understand
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but you have the consequences
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for losing. Yeah. And if you had won
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she would be a duke. So you
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rolled them bones and you lost.
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I'm sure.
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But the
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you know that song Duke of
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Earl? Duke. Duke. Duke.
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Duke of Earl. Yep.
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Let's take a walk through my Duke
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of Earl.
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That's a good song.
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So I
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I just am troubled
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by like
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bringing this up. I know it's something that's important
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to his life and what have you but
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I have no pity for him based
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on his inability to be a father
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to this daughter because he wasn't already.
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Yeah. Like you were like even if you
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hadn't done January 6th you were
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part of a fucking street gang.
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I'm gonna be I'm gonna tell you this. You were a leader
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of a street gang. Generally speaking
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uh
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children who have
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fathers that engage
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in a large amount of political violence
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kind of
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indiscriminately are usually happier
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to grow up without that father.
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And like the political
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violence is targeted at LGBTQ
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folks and like it's bigotry
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targeted political violence.
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Like I can't imagine
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it being like a great stable
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place.
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He should be crying because
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finally his daughter is gonna grow up in a
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better environment.
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I just
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I don't know.
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The one thing that I just keep coming back to
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or I kept coming back to when I was thinking about this
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was like you made the choice to go asshole.
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Like what did
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what did you think? You made the choice to have a kid.
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Well sure.
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Or you didn't. Life circumstances
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are what they are and like it's not
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she's I saw a picture on his
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GoFundMe or whatever. Sure.
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And she's not like a baby.
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So like she
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can probably understand daddy's going
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to jail. Yeah. Like she's
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old enough to understand that.
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And it's just like hey man
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you should have grown up and gotten
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out of this street gang phase. Yeah.
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Because you got a kid. Yeah.
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I mean honestly
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five years from now she'll be visiting
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him in prison or whatever. Or not.
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Or not. Exactly. But that's what I'm saying.
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And it's going to be like the realization of
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I wish I had a dad.
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I don't wish I had you as my dad.
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Like that's what she's going to find out.
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Yep. So anyway
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one thing that Alex and Joe have in common
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is a lawyer.
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You know
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a lot of listeners have asked me
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where is
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Stuart Rhodes?
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I've been trying to get him for a year.
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He's been in jail.
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Where's Joe Biggs?
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I have the same
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lawyer as Joe Biggs.
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And the calculus was
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it'll make the judge mad
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if you're on here attacking
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him and
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that's why.
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That's why.
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And then listeners are like why aren't you talking about it?
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Well I've been trying since he got sentenced
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get him on.
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It took us two days. He's here.
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And you just say well just don't listen to the lawyers.
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I mean it's his lawyer.
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And my lawyer. And I get Norm's point.
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Joe was on like a month ago.
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We heard
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we talked about it. We covered it. Yep.
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What is going on
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with this being precious about Norm's advice?
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Norm probably told
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Alex not to have those
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little impromptu performances
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outside the courthouse too.
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Didn't stop him. Norm probably told himself
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not to fall asleep in court.
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And he still did.
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The number of things that
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Norm Patis has said that no one
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has paid attention to is
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I mean, comprehensible.
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Well I think people did pay attention to that one.
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Although not enough.
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That's a really good point. Not enough.
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Should be a lot more attention paid to that.
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Maybe the only
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time I'm going to say that really bad
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stand up should get more attention.
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Yeah.
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Talk about back to back
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losses of
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Big L's. Boy.
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You really should be able to get your money back
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if your lawyer was Norm Patis.
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Well actually in a clip
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I'll just play this right now because
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Alex says he hasn't paid him.
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But I want to thank everybody that's gone to
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Jones.com.
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Infowars has stabilized. The bankruptcy looks like
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it's going through. Everything I told the court was true.
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Everything the media said was a lie.
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You've seen all that. We don't have ten million dollars
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versus four hundred million dollars.
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And I've got a year
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of legal bills built up that
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I've gotten a really good crop of new
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lawyers last year.
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They haven't been paid yet.
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And that's because the judge got lied to and told that I had all this money
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so the judge said well he can pay his legal bills. And now the judge is like
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wait they didn't have any money. But I still have the
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old bill. That's about to
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all get fixed. The judge has signaled where
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he now realizes he was lied to but
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for now I need to pay that million dollars
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like that's a lot of money. Not really
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in today's numbers folks with inflation.
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Trump has spent sixty-seven million this year
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on lawyers with hundreds
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of lawsuits and all the rest of it and
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all the criminal charges. Great. Trump needs
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support. Well I don't need sixty-seven million
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dollars. I need a million dollars.
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Or we go off the air.
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Because if they shut me down I can't be here.
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Infowarsstore.com
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funds free speech systems. Great products you need.
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But defendjones.com
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is where you can make
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straight donations.
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So you owe your lawyers a million dollars
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and if you don't pay them you
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go off the air?
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This is strange. That doesn't make sense.
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But I do like the idea that he hasn't paid Norm.
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Yeah.
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But he also said he has new lawyers that he hasn't paid.
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And Norm is a legacy lawyer.
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So maybe Norm and Barnes
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have been paid and then everybody else hasn't.
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Yeah. I would say that
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no offense to lawyers
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but there's no thing
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in the law or that a
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lawyer could do that would ever be worth
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sixty-seven million dollars.
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I think if
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they saved your life...
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I don't have that money to spend.
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I got a DNR buddy. I can't
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be in that kind of debt.
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Let's imagine that you did have
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like a billion dollars.
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And you were going to
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be executed for a crime that you
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committed and the lawyers are able to get you
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off scot free.
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Then sixty-seven million is worth it.
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Then I would pay them sixty-seven million
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but my life is not worth sixty-seven million dollars.
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I'm just trying to think of like...
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I know. I understand. I understand.
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Take it back.
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Not execution. Now you're just
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going to live in prison for the rest of your life.
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That might be worth sixty-seven million dollars.
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I'm...
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I could not be beat up
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and sexually abused and stuff.
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There is a certain part of me that would be...
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Yeah, I get where you're coming from with prison.
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I mean, I saw...
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When I was getting that Anders
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Breivik episode together, I remember
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that he complained that he didn't have enough games
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on his Playstation.
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Yeah, he's got a pretty good set up.
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If it was something like that, I'd barely
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leave the house anyway.
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If I could podcast from jail.
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The problem is...
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I'm going to a radio show. I can podcast.
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I think to myself, oh, but they limit your choices.
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And then I think to myself, I would
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prefer some of my choices be limited.
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Sometimes you get...
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You go to the store, it's like too many choices.
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Sometimes just the amount of energy
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that I spend just choosing
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things. If I got rid of
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that choice, then I would have more
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energy saved up to do other things.
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Yeah, but at the same time being
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forced into that position and trapped and maybe
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the one choice isn't something you like.
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Yeah, that's the other problem.
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But, yeah, $67 million to not
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live in prison for the rest of your life is probably worth it.
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That's probably worth it. That's a good point.
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If you have it. If you got it.
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I wouldn't borrow it. You're not getting out of that debt.
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So we gotta double back here
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for a second.
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Alex was saying that people
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are asking why isn't Joe on?
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And I don't think people are.
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I don't think people care.
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Except for one person. I think this is all about this.
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But I just love the other
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patriots that are out there. They're like
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armchair quarterback. Why isn't Alex Jones?
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And it's on so many subjects. Why isn't Alex
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Jones having him on? Why
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he doesn't care about those people.
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One former talk show host
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that worked here who just kept saying I was
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censoring when I wasn't. I was really
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upset that he was lying and saying I was censoring.
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I barely even watched his show. I'm like, why are you saying that?
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Oh, he doesn't care about
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his crew. He's sent there. I didn't
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send Joe Biggs there. Joe Biggs hadn't worked here for years.
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I didn't send
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anybody into the damn
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capital. But Joe didn't do anything in the
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capital.
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So the idea that I'm sending
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people and I'm doing this and I'm
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all this crap, it's ridiculous.
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Alright, so you're mad at David Knight? I was gonna say
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it's gotta be David Knight, right? It's gotta be
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David Knight. So David Knight is the
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reason that we're talking to Joe Biggs right
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now. I guess.
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I mean, it's a hot interview though.
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Everybody
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was looking to get Biggs.
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No they weren't. Oh boy.
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Oh boy. Yeah. So
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you may notice he hasn't been there.
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And that's because the call time ended. Yeah, yeah.
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So Alex is killing some time until Joe can call back
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in. And so he does to lie
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about evidence some more. Sure.
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But is there video of you saying we go into the
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capital? Or video of you saying
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you, or text message you're saying you
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orchestrated it? No, that's Ray Hepps.
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Yeah, there's none of that whatsoever.
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They have a video of me going
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oh my god I can't believe everybody just stormed
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the capital. There's even a video of
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me where I'm walking and I'm
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filming it and I'm going oh my
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god we've just walked over the barriers. We've
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just walked over the barriers. Not we've just taken
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them down or we've just busted them. We've
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just walked over them because someone else had knocked them down.
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We've just walked over the barriers. Oh my
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god I can't believe this. People are storming the capital.
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Joe actually said quote
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we've just taken the capital.
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Not that people were entering the capital
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and he was watching but that he had.
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He later filmed himself saying quote
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so we just stormed the fucking capital
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took the motherfucking place back.
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That was so much fun. January
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6th will be a day in infamy.
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And their group chat, Enrique Tario
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even said quote make no mistake
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we did this.
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Joe can fuck right off with this woe
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is me victim shit. I have
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no pity for this.
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You know
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when they brought up the secret service
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you know and how RFK
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didn't have any or whatever and it's like that's fine
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you know I don't care.
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But the point about secret service is that
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you can't stop. They can't stop an assassination.
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They can stop an assassination
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from somebody who wants to
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get away with it right.
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Somebody who is just like
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going to kill you and does not
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give a fuck about if they live or
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die at the end of it can still walk
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up to the secret service and shoot somebody.
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Like they're not
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for that. Yeah yeah
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just somebody who is out to they don't
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they expect to die going in.
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Like Shinzo Abe like
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that assassination of just like I'm going to
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walk up and you're not going to stop that with
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secret service. Yeah yeah. And the same
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thing is is the case with
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like
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this whole
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this whole
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plan they have of taking the capital
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of like
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if you want to try and get away with it
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that's when you're going to get in real
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trouble because you have to have a
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complicated Ocean's Eleven plan
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that's going to have steps that people are going to be able to
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find their way back through. Yeah it
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should be victory or death. Exactly
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it's victory or death. If you are
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in the realm of overthrowing
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the government or trying to
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impose your will upon
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overturning an election you
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need to die or win. Yes.
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Because if you don't
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it's kind of sad. It's sad.
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It indicates that you weren't really
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all that committed. And your plan wasn't really
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all that good. No.
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It worked to a point. Someone did shit on a desk.
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That's definitely true. And so hey you know
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small victories. Yeah
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that's what we all got to celebrate.
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Moral victory.
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So we have one more clip here.
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Because I don't really care. Joe is kind
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of treading water a bit and just like
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give me money sort of. But we have
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one more clip after he leaves.
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Alright here's what I'm going to do.
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I want to take the ADL to the woodshed.
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Because it's been the top trending thing
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for a few days. People really get it now. And I've got a
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big stack here that ties
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into the UN. Their whole operation.
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And I've got all this
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other news too. So I'm really loaded
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for Bear. I'm going to come back tomorrow.
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Yeah I'm going to do it tomorrow.
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Actually I'm going home
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early. I'm going to be honest. I'm loaded
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for Bear. I'm out.
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This whole Joe Biggs thing is
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kind of annoying.
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Shit. Man Norm is the
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worst lawyer.
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It's hard to imagine worse.
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Yeah.
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I mean I don't know.
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I genuinely don't know if he is a good or
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bad lawyer lawyer.
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I wouldn't know how to judge the quality.
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For me it would be like oh his
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briefs are really well written.
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I don't know. I imagine they're not.
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I imagine they're not too.
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This circumstance
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gives you the
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there's so many different skills
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involved in lawyering. And at the same time
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it's such a niche
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position for these lawyers to be in.
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I would say that Rinal
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appears to be a better attorney
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to me. In terms of
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his ability to speak and like
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I hated a lot of the things he was saying but he was
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at least kind of like talking to
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the jury and all of that.
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Would you talk to me?
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I did not like that.
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But like Norm when he was
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making his arguments like closing and opening
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arguments and stuff he was stammering
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and like he was non-committal
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to things and like it
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was not good. It
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felt bad as if it was
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like I'm not
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I
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it would never have been persuasive.
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He learned lawyering from
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my cousin Benny.
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It feels like that. It feels like he's
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waiting in the end for someone to be like
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aha no the tires
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don't come on the Skylark
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or whatever. And instead it went the other way
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with Alex's texts.
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Revealing all his texts.
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But that was Rinal. That's the thing that makes me
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like resist
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giving him too many compliments because that was an
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unforced error. Oh that was
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maybe the biggest unforced error that you could possibly
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have. Revealing all
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the crimes.
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Bad idea.
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Bad move. But as far as
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results go I don't think
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there's ever been a back to back result
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quite as bad.
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It's tough. Who
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has ever lost that much money?
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Billion dollar judgment again. Well actually
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that's not fair because he was
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oh wait no the Connecticut one
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was the bigger of the
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so yeah. It was him. We could
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put Norm down for negative a billion dollars.
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At least.
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And seditious conspiracy
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conviction. Couple
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of them right? Yeah I think he was the lawyer
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for a couple of the proud boys. But at least Joe Biggs.
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Let's keep it in the Infowars. At the very least Joe Biggs.
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Yeah. Can't wait
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to see what he does next. Yeah.
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And he doesn't even have the
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benefit of being like an evil trial lawyer.
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You know like Steven Donziger
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winning the
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oil case.
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Eleven billion dollars. Some
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insane amount of money. But then they're evil so
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they can just go like hire a judge and then
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get him in fucking
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house arrest. That's how you
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be evil. Or Ron Daza is
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is like a fairly evil
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seeming lawyer. Totally.
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But I think Norm is
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a non-committal evil.
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That's what I think he is. I think he's
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just. He's dumb and he's bad.
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Yeah. He's just bad
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at everything. Well you know
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you could never really expect too much from him
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having never seen him practice
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law when he sat next to
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Alex drunkenly screaming about wanting
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Chris Maddie's head on a pike. Yeah that one was
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tough. The fact that he was there and allowed
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himself to like be a part of it and not just
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like walk out or something. Yeah. It
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shows something. Yeah.
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And it's not a good thing. Yeah. Yeah.
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Hmm.
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Anyway, great job. Yep.
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We'll be back Jordan
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for another episode but until then
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we have a website. Indeed we do. It's
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knowledgefight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter
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it's at knowledge underscore fight. Yep.
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Beep beep beep beep beep
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beep. I rely too much
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on the woo hoo woo hoo. The slide
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whistly kind of things. You've got a little yeah yeah.
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Yep. This is my
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self critique of my beeping
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and booping. Woo yeah woo
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yeah woo. And now
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here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work. I love you.
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