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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledgefight

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knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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Shang, we are the bad guys, knowledgefight

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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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Need, need money, Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and

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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas

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It's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan

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Jordan

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Dan!

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Jordan!

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Quick question for you

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, is that this is actually a first for us

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I am recording with no shoes on

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There is, the situation we have here is that we are recording remotely

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for, I think, other than the time that you were overseas

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Yeah

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on one of your many vacations, this is the first time we've recorded

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not in the same place, and generally I like to put on, you know, professional pants

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put on socks and shoes

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Wait, wait, wait, those have been professional pants this whole time?

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Semi-professional pants

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Business casual, Dan

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Business casual, that's great, that's great, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great

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And I thought that it was because I didn't want to do the show in like, you know, without shoes on

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or like feeling like really casual about it, but it turns out, no, I was just

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I just was doing that out of courtesy for you, it turns out, because I'm here, I've got sweatpants and no shoes on

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I feel just fine

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That's crazy, because I really did put pants on for this, I wanted to feel like

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I was like, no, no, no, I'm a professional

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And, you know, I've seen so many of these stories where people accidentally reveal themselves

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so I've got another pair of pants on top of that

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You don't want to toot them

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Just to be in case, yeah, absolutely, no chance of that

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Yeah, that's a reasonable concern, but I do have sweatpants on, so that concern is limited

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And we're not streaming and broadcasting this, so that's another

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No, that's very smart

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But yeah, so we're recording in separate places out of an abundance of caution

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Do you want to get into that at all?

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Yeah, I mean, my partner is ill

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We've taken between us four COVID tests, one at a hospital, and all have come back negative

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So we're pretty sure it's just that regular old flu from the flu times, I guess

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But who knows, you never know, it could be an invisible super strain of COVID

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It's like that kind of thing

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Seems unlikely

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Right, but you know, at this point, fucking, you don't know

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Sure

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And so yeah, we're recording in separate locations out of that abundance of caution

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And unfortunately, because of that, I think we teased that we're gonna have a much longer

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episode on Monday

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Sure, sure

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And spoiler alert, that's because there's a deposition episode coming up

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But we were like, you know what, that has the potential to be super long

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Let's not do that over Zoom thing

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So that's gonna require our best, you know, and I think we do our best whenever we're

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right in there, in the weeds together

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And I need shoes for that

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Yeah, that's true, that is true, you are gonna need shoes for a deposition

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Yeah, so what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, Dan, it's a couple weeks after my birthday, late May, you know what that

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means

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That means the French Open has begun

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Another tennis-based

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Oh, that's what it's all about, Dan, it's all about the French Open

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C'est très bien, mon ami

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Indeed, indeed

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Yeah, it's the first year in

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Qu'est-ce qu'est-ce pas, sir?

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I think it's the first year in probably 13 that Rafa is not the favorite to win the French

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Open

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Oh, sacre bleu

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15 years, 15 years, that's crazy

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Mon Dieu

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Mon Dieu indeed, sir

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Running out of French

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Who is the favorite?

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I would say Djokovic is the favorite just because he's older and he's done it more

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Let's see if we can get him kicked out of the country

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I mean, well, yeah, that's the reason he didn't win the Australian

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So I would say that Alcaraz is the person playing the best tennis right now, he's 19

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years old, he's gone from 80 to number six in the world in the past three months

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The man is incredible, and by man, I mean that in the loosest sense of the word because

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he is a child

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I liked that show, that Sam Neill show, Alcaraz

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Oh, sorry, it was a show called Alcaraz, I gotta go

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No, that's right, the recording did not break

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No, short-lived very, very well forgotten TV show Alcaraz, starring Sam Neill

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I think I love Sam Neill

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I think it was Sam Neill

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So yeah, Jordan, today we were going to do something to put Alex on the back burner

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I was wanting to put him in time out because he sucks

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Not a fun time, after the last week's coverage of the Buffalo shooting, I felt like the Alex

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Jones was right stuff about that was just getting to be a little bit obnoxious

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And so the deposition was a green pasture for us to go into, I thought that was going

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to be fun

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It would've been nice

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Sure, and then I was, you know, instead, hey, 2003 is always there, why not?

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Unfortunately, the present day called me back and necessitated that I show back up

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And so today we're going to be going over

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Like a fire in a dumpster, you couldn't stay away, you just had to go get a closer look

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What is burning?

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Yep, yep, that is correct

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And so today we'll check out this flaming trash can that is Friday's show, that is the

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20th of May, 2022

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And we'll get down to business on that, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello

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to some new wonks

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Oh, that's a great idea

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So first, fill your hand with the earliest episodes because Dan and Jordan's early optimism

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is adorably precious

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Next, tick with the toy boat, toy boat, toy boat, thank you so much, you are now a policy

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wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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They're out here trying to mix me up, trying to screw me up with these tongue twisters

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Oh my god, it didn't even occur to me that that was a tongue twister, I legit was like

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that must be a reference to some show that I've never seen before

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Nah, nah, nah, they're trying to mess me up

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Next

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Ah, I gotcha

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Finn's to the left, Finn's to the right, and I'm the only wonk in town, thank you so much,

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you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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New rule, no more Jimmy Buffett references in the policy wonk shout outs

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Good rule

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Next, boobakar bah, probably the only person in Senegal who's ever heard of Alex Jones,

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thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, frightfest was a blast at six false flags, once great America, thank you so much,

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you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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I like that one, that was good

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Next, the giant blue worm that lives rent free in Bill Ogden's office, thank you so

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much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you, and so, Jordan, we come to the beginning of our episode here

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Excellent

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And here's the deal, Alex has got big news, that's really why we have to stay in the present

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There's really, really

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I gotcha

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There's drastically, drastically big news afoot, and this is how Alex begins his show

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here on Friday

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It is Friday, May 20th, the year is 2022, and we are going to break here today, starting

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now, the biggest news of my 28 year history, and we saw this coming months ago, we can

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have the archivist, which I haven't directed him to do yet, go back to the dates, this

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was announced last year, and then at the start of 2022, and show when Bill Gates said it,

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and then show when I made the warning, but now it's happened

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So yeah, we got the biggest news of Alex's career here

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It's happened, it's happened, what's happened?

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Mhmm

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It's happened

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Yeah, it's happened

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Well, but I mean like all of it, or just some of it?

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Well, I feel like we hear periodically about the biggest news of Alex's career, I feel

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like this is something that has taken on a boy-cried-wolf quality

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I mean, are we rolling down our windows in traffic, is that how important this news is?

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You will later be implored to call people and tell them to tune in

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I don't know if it's quite at the point of stopping traffic, but it's probably fairly

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close

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Yeah, okay, gotcha

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See, here's the thing man, the news that Alex has to cover, biggest of his career, absolutely,

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without a doubt, is so big that like he just can't get to it, can't get to it

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Of course not

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Now, this is so big that if you just mention it or talk about it, it doesn't do it justice,

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and so the best way to start with this is this way

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Which way?

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If you remember three years ago, we said the UN is going to release some type of bioweapon,

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probably a SARS-COVID type, that's what they're cooking up, we already had the documents then,

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they were up there bragging on C-SPAN, Peter Daszak and Fauci that a big imminent thing

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was about to happen, it would change the whole world and blow up the FDA system and other

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systems and allow them to just get things approved instantly, and it would be mRNA,

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we played all those clips

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All of them, so this isn't accurate, for one thing, Alex has been claiming that a false

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flag bio-attack is right around the corner regularly for the past 20 years, he definitely

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could find some clips of him saying something like that from 2019 in the same way that he

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could find clips where he said that in 2008 or any other year

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I mean, I honestly kind of thought we were still doing a 2003 episode, I feel like that

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could have been there

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We'll get to how heavy the overlaps are a little bit later

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So beyond that, Alex is making shit up about what he predicted in order to make himself

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seem more accurate, he wasn't talking about mRNA vaccines until right up to the point

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where the right-wing blogs he reads, the headlines, started to get upset about that as a new angle

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to attack vaccines as a whole

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This is part of the reason that Alex Jones was right, that meme is so insidious, if you've

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bought into the Alex Jones was right game, then you might be far more willing to hear

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Alex make stuff up about his past predictions and accept them as true

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Once you believe that Alex has been right more about stuff than you think, you subordinate

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your own instincts and critical thinking to Alex's imaginary expertise, and that's dangerous

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Also

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Yeah, just believing that Alex knew what mRNA before it was on a conservative blog is just

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absurd

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Yeah

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Yeah

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He's, that's nonsense

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Yeah

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Also, the reason that Alex is starting off covering this story by rambling bullshit about

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how he's been so right about stuff in the past is because it's a less openly desperate

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way for him to beg the audience to believe what he's about to tell them

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Right

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It's essentially like, you've got to take me seriously because don't you remember how

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right I've been about everything I've actually been wrong about?

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Listen, straight up, I am going to warn you by telling you how right I've always been,

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how wrong I'm about to be right into your face, and it's going to be loud

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So we have we have some dangerous world developments upon us that Alex is going to get into before

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he gets into the most important news of his career, but I guess this kind of actually

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is involved

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Now, let's move into what's currently happening.

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The UN starts their meetings on the 23rd of the 28th in Switzerland, in Geneva, they signed

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a deal two weeks ago that the World Economic Forum will direct them to private corporations

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are now in direct control of the UN.

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They say the treaty's secret, but Tedros and Gates, we played the clips all over the news,

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have said yes, Biden has gone in and gotten a copy of the treaty and has demanded that

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the UN be given power over nation states to sanction even with military operations, anyone

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that doesn't follow the US orders.

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So this is a world government treaty, putting the UN in control of the major Western militaries

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to enforce the new lockdown that will make the last one look like a walk in the park

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even compared to what you saw in places like Australia and New Zealand and Canada.

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So this is a whole load of bullshit.

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Which corporations own the UN?

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When did Biden send this treaty letter slash thing?

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What?

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Yeah, it's a lot of made up fun stuff from conspiracy blogs and what have you.

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So in the upcoming World Health Assembly meeting that's happening in the, actually, I believe

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it starts today.

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Do they all go to the gym and sit cross legged?

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There's a group of kids in action or whatever who do a song and dance number.

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Somebody tells them to stop smoking.

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There's a planned discussion of the international health regulations and there's an aim at improving

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international responses to future pandemic threats.

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That's basically the kernel of truth that's behind all this bullshit.

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Of course, of course.

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So much of what Alex is talking about traces back to narratives that have spread about

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the amendments that could be added to these regulations.

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Some of the amendments in these blogs are made up, but there's one that has to do with

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Article 12 that's actually real, but it's being lied about.

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This proposed amendment would change how the director general of the WHO determines a health

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emergency.

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Previously, the director general and the state where the pandemic is thought to be active

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would need to agree on the fact that there is a health emergency before the World Health

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Organization could make a determination.

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Now the state party is not required to agree that there's a health emergency.

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The impetus of this amendment is really obvious.

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There's a concern that in the early days of COVID, the Chinese government may not have

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been perfectly transparent about the situation and whether or not that had a material impact

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on how the world responded, it raises important points.

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If there's a public health emergency that could affect other countries and possibly

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the entire world, what do you do if you have reason to suspect that a country isn't being

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forthcoming about the situation or not cooperating or giving information and data to the rest

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of the world to base their decisions on?

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This amendment seeks to address this by allowing the World Health Organization to not require

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a state to sign on to their determination before they make it.

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That being said, this does nothing to make the UN or the World Health Organization able

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to enforce anything, nor does it make them able to take over all the West's militaries

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and put people into a lockdown.

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This is ridiculous.

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Yeah, I do appreciate how powerful the UN is in the conservative mind.

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It's so strong.

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So powerful.

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The idea that the UN would actually be able to go into China and look at their anything

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without China's consent, get the fuck out of here.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Come on.

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The International Health Regulations, even if you read them, they specifically say that

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a state is able to agree with, comply or not comply with World Health Organization's recommendations.

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Those are all the options.

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You can do whatever they want.

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Yes, gotcha.

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Yeah.

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So that doesn't do it.

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It doesn't do anything.

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It's just a load of shit.

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So I think the amendment that they're really mad about is the one where you have to quarter

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and feed soldiers.

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That's the craziest one, you know, that you can send soldiers into your home.

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It's terrible.

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Pandemic soldiers, no less.

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Absolutely.

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Doctors, nurses, you must quarter everyone.

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So Alex believes that they've been broadcasting this stuff, that there's going to be another

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pandemic.

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I mean, spoiler alert, all this is about monkey pox.

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And we'll get to that here in a minute.

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But Alex is like, yeah, they said all this in advance in order to let you know that it's

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going to happen because they're like villains in comic books.

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Because Alex believes that the world is basically a children's cartoon.

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Yeah.

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So you have that going on and what is their pretext going to be?

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And that's the new big story.

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And this has been going on for a few weeks.

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And back last year and earlier this year, I said it over and over again, I said these

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criminals always telegraph what they're going to do to hide it in plain view, and to be

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confident to their criminal armies who are involved in this, that they're going to get

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away with it.

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This is what psychos do.

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They love to brag.

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So that's basic criminology.

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That's why in all the supervillain cartoons and Marvel cartoons and James Bond movies,

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the villain always monologues and you think, why do they monologue?

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Well, because that's actually what villains do.

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Oh, dramatic tension.

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That's what I was thinking.

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That's one reason.

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I was thinking dramatic tension.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's one thing, dramatic tension, heightening the mood.

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It's also a helpful way to explain elements of the plot that would be difficult to do

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any other way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, many people use those for exposition.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because as viewers, we're aware of a lot of stuff that the characters aren't.

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And so the bad guy telling the hero what their plan is, it kind of serves as a shortcut to

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get them up to speed on what everyone's doing so we're all on the same page and we can get

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to the climax of the film.

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It's not something that is from basic criminology or whatever.

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No, I mean, it's pretty much like the villain giving a quick fill in, like, hey, listen,

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we've been showing the audience all of this stuff.

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I'm going to download this real quick into you.

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You're going to be like, holy shit, I can't believe he pulled that off.

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I know, you know, oh man, you killed me.

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Well, you know everything now as the hero of the film, so you're able to respond appropriately

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and know what the deal is as you enter the final act.

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Yes.

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So stupid.

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So stupid.

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Real life criminology.

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That's what these people do.

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Basic criminology.

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Yeah.

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Also, I thought Alex's imaginary enemies do this announcing stuff in advance because they

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have to, according to intergalactic laws.

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I thought they had to tell everyone what they were going to do, so if you don't choose to

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fight back against it, you're basically accepting and consenting to what they're doing.

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Alex seems to have forgotten that storyline.

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Also, he seems to have forgotten the whole race war lockdowns thing and moved smoothly

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back to pandemic lockdowns.

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I wonder why.

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Oh my god.

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Nothing on this show means anything at all.

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Holy shit.

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No, no, no.

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That was really frustrating.

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I mean, it's sweeps week, you know, so you got to get rid of all of those meet cute storylines

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and you got to get back to the main storyline and make sure everybody's ready to find out

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who shot JR.

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That is essentially what Info Wars is.

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It's almost like Alex was desperately grabbing at straws at anything he could do to deflect

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attention away from the reality of the story of the Buffalo shooting and now that it's

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kind of blown over, at least the point at which he's worried about the conversation

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that's happening, he can move on to other things and pretend that all that shit.

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He never really said that race war lockdowns were right around the corner and that's been

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the globalist's plan.

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Fucking asshole.

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Right.

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Well, at the same time acting as though, I mean, it was like a completely reasonable

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thing for him to say at the time, but now that that's blown over, I mean, it's just

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a, it's just a massive, it just never happened.

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No, it never happened.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no.

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There's a, uh, a solipsism about Alex's, uh, about his information that like, if it's not

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immediately here, that shit isn't real.

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It's annoying.

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Yeah.

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And Satan, doesn't Satan have to tell you what's going on because of his contract with

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God and all of those things?

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That's yeah.

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That's the intergalactic law part.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Right.

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So it's literally intergalactic and not just spiritual.

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Gotcha.

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Also one of the, uh, uh, amendments to the international health regulation is that the

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director general and Satan and the head of state don't all have to agree.

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Satan is also out of the loop for health emergencies, uh, in the future.

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Azazel's running that, uh, part of the show now.

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Beelzebub.

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Old scratch.

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Satan's in there actually under a whole bunch of different names.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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So like I mentioned this, uh, obviously I think anybody who listens to our show enough

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and has a vague awareness of the world would have been able to tell already that this is

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about monkey pox.

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Um, but, uh, here we go.

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Alex finally lays it out that this is, this is about monkey pox.

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Okay.

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Let me make the announcement and it's already all over the place.

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Everybody's already figured it out.

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I wasn't ready to hit it yesterday because I wanted to spend hours last night and hours

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today going over it and I've overdone it as usual.

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I've got hundreds of documents, studies, all the damn proof here.

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I'm sitting here reading this in private.

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I mean, I'm not even angry at these people anymore.

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My cells, my guts, my brain, my soul is you're going to stop these people Jones or you're

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to blame.

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I'm pissed at myself when I'm reading this because I've got clips of Gates bragging last

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year that they'll soon be smallpox and monkey pox and giggling and laughing and say the

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next pandemic, then they put in all the orders for the new monkey pox vaccine.

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Biden just bought tens of millions of doses yesterday.

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And then magically right on time, right as the vaccines delivered it, monkey pox pops

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up in more than 20 countries.

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So monkey pox wasn't part of Alex's shit about Gates until exactly this moment.

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Yeah.

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Although Alex did obsess over Gates, very normal warnings that COVID wouldn't be the

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last public health crisis we would face.

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And Alex is saying like, ah, yes, smallpox and monkey pox as if like, no, he was talking

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about smallpox.

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There's one clip that Alex has where Bill Gates in passing references, like people doing

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sort of exercises to think about like, what would we do if terrorists released smallpox?

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Alex has now taken that and he's been like, aha, that was Gates's plan.

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And also when he said smallpox, he meant monkey pox and smallpox.

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It's like, this is cheating.

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Come on, man.

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Listen, the rule is a pox is a pox, okay?

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It's monkey pox, it's dog pox, it's smallpox, big pox, doesn't matter, a pox is a pox.

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So there's a lot going on here, so I'm going to try and break this down a little bit bit

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by bit.

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And the first thing I should point out is that listeners of our show may be a bit more

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familiar with monkey pox than the general population.

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And that's because Alex already did this whole thing back in 2003 and some of our episodes

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from back then include him spreading bullshit about a monkey pox outbreak.

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So this is a little bit, this is another witchy thing.

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That is very funny.

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I forgot about that.

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That is so funny.

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The kind of thought that if he really went back through our 2003 episodes, he could find

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some clips of him being furious about monkey pox.

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Yeah, because he was using the cases of monkey pox that were identified as some sort of a

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conspiracy about the smallpox vaccine that was going on.

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The conversation was happening in 2003.

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He's just doing it again, but with COVID.

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20 years on, yeah.

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Yeah.

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He doesn't have many tricks.

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So in the present day, Alex is intentionally mixing up cause and effect in order to create

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the appearance of conspiracy.

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He's claiming that Biden ordered these monkey pox vaccines and then later monkey pox cases

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popped up.

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By presenting things like this, Alex is very explicitly trying to tell his audience that

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the order for vaccines was made because of foreknowledge of the coming monkey pox cases.

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This is important for Alex to convey to his audience because it's a lie that he can use

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as the foundation upon to build his argument that the whole thing was a false flag outbreak.

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Right.

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Despite the fact that even if it was the case that he ordered it before, again, it is a

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very smart move to have vaccines for diseases that are possibly going to come.

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Yeah, but like if you had just out of the blue randomly ordered these monkey pox vaccines,

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it would seem a little bit more suspicious.

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But in the real world, the US government ordered $119 million worth of a vaccine, which is

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good for smallpox and monkey pox after a case was confirmed in Massachusetts.

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The first in the US during this outbreak.

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So that's why the order was made.

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It wasn't like like well in advance.

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Haha.

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We know it's coming.

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Let's get these these vaccines ready.

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We saw somebody.

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Yeah.

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Although $119 million worth of this vaccine is not like it's not enough for like even

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probably the entirety of Massachusetts.

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Honestly, it's not like we're not going to be able to inoculate the entire country based

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on this.

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It's a fairly targeted amount of reserve that you would have in the case of the cases pop

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up in certain like various locales, basically like what they did in 2003.

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Right.

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Right.

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All right.

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No, I mean, it's it's so hard to understand scale anymore.

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You know, like $119 million is so much fucking money.

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But then again, you remind yourself in terms of scale.

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That's like the American government, like peeing just a little bit in your mouth and

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being like, hey, this is close.

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You know, it's nothing.

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It's it's flicking a quarter at something.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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But it's it's millions of doses, but it's in the low millions of doses.

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And that's about like what you would expect in the case that you might see more cases

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and want to inoculate, let's say, health care workers that might be in contact with people

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or if you can identify clusters.

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You know, there is there is a utility to this, but it's not like it's not like Operation

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Warp Speed where, you know, it's like billions of dollars.

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It would be, you know, you can, you know, you can appropriately react to a pandemic

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possible disease if you could do it early on.

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I know it doesn't feel like it's as we just live through people not doing it.

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Right.

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I mean, it's possible.

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We saw it with monkey pox in 2003.

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We saw it with Ebola under Obama that gets this is not it's not impossible.

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And also monkey pox is pretty different than covid in as much as like it's a known quantity.

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And there are some therapeutic treatments that that already exist.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, obviously this is not an analogous situation.

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But the first case in this outbreak was reported to the World Health Organization on May 7th.

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And it was an individual from the UK who traveled to Nigeria.

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Since then, there have been 92 laboratory confirmed cases in 12 countries where monkey

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pox is not endemic.

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This is a big deal in as much as any novel spreading of a disease is a big deal.

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But it's not time for Mike Adams to come back and declare that it's over for humanity, which

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I imagine we'll be seeing before too long based on the way Alex is going about this.

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Yeah.

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I give it a few weeks.

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It's really hard to say for sure how this is going to progress.

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But I tend to agree with the World Health Organization's assessment that it's highly

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likely that there will be more cases that are identified.

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But I also feel like it would be hasty to jump to the conclusion that this is going

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to be any kind of large scale pandemic all over again.

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Like I said, in 2003, there were 71 reported cases in six US states.

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And through proper tracing practices and targeted vaccine deployment, the outbreak didn't spread.

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This is something to be aware of.

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And obviously, people should be careful as best they can.

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But the type of hyping and fear mongering Alex is engaging in here is deeply irresponsible.

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And what do you expect?

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It is, again, when he did this with the other pandemic possible diseases in the past, we

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responded to those appropriately.

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So his bullshit didn't cause any further harm.

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It's when we respond to it inappropriately, that his disease spreads out of control, almost

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in concert with the disease, in tandem.

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Yep.

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So one of the things that's fun about this turn of events, these cases being identified

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of monkeypox, is it allows Alex to play some new games with COVID conspiracies.

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I feel like the songs that he was playing about COVID vaccines and stuff were getting

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a little bit tired.

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And thankfully, this has opened up a new avenue of like, jazz improvisation for him.

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Sure, sure.

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The jukebox is getting old.

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This diner is from the 1950s.

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You got to update this shit and and update he does monkeypox pops up in more than 20

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countries all over Europe, all over the US all over everywhere, where you have people

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taking AstraZeneca, AstraZeneca, and J&J, ladies and gentlemen.

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Because what is AstraZeneca and J&J?

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They're virus vectors that inject the genome of a chimpanzee into your cells, and then

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order your cells to replicate under those orders, using a virus to deliver the pack.

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You turned into a monkey?

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So ladies and gentlemen, did you hear what I just said?

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We saw this last year, I said Gates is preparing to release smallpox and or monkeypox.

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Then the FBI and some storage facility at a lab that was shut down.

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Find smallpox in a refrigerator.

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They're just putting that out there then truck crashes in Pennsylvania with a bunch of monkeypox

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and then the woman gets it, but it all gets shut down.

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Do you believe any of this?

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Oh, a truck dumped over.

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Yeah, that's where it came.

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So they're laying the groundwork.

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Gates says smallpox, monkeypox is coming.

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They start making the vaccine.

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He says terrorists are going to release it.

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He's right.

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He's the terrorist leader, James Bond villain.

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And then all hell breaks loose, right as the UN global treaty is about to be signed on

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to by the countries that puts us under UN control.

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I mean, it's all premeditated.

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It's all prepackaged.

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It's all in your face and it's all right here.

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It's happening.

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It all makes sense now.

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I mean, it's all coming together finally.

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Yeah.

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Alex was desperate for a way to attack the COVID vaccines that weren't mRNA.

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And I think now he's figured out his plan.

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He got his little...

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I don't know, man.

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I think that the notion that the COVID vaccines give you monkeypox is a...

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That's a new one.

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I had not heard that one on Alex's show.

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I've listened to quite a bit of his show and this is not something that I've learned to

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be afraid of.

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Yeah, that's a big swing.

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Yeah.

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But it's funny how like whatever is happening in the news just kind of gets written into

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the history of Alex's predictions.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely.

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This is part of it all along, man.

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I don't know about that.

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This is living in a perpetual midichlorian backstory retcon kind of situation.

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I find it more offensive because, you know, at least that was just disappointing.

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This is the real world.

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Also, this is 100% a Cowboy Bebop episode.

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These eco-terrorists break in and they have a virus that they're going to unleash upon

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a planet and it regresses you evolution-wise into a monkey.

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And the way he just described it, injecting you with monkey cells and having them reprogram

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your body.

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This is monkey.

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He's turning people into monkeys.

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Well, I would say that it's important to remember that Cowboy Bebop is predictive programming.

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That is true.

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That is true.

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So that story about smallpox being found in a freezer was kind of a hoax.

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In mid-November 2021, there were a bunch of headlines about vials being found in a lab

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in Pennsylvania that were labeled smallpox.

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Idiots like Alex, who just report on headlines, ran with the story at face value and they

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weren't listening when the CDC announced that they'd tested the vials and they contained

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no traces of the virus that causes smallpox.

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The vials have been labeled this way because they contained vaccinia, which is the virus

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that's used in the creation of the smallpox virus, but it doesn't give you smallpox.

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So it was poorly labeled vials that were there.

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It wasn't like Daryl was tested and found to be positive for being hilarious and messing

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with somebody's lunch that day.

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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No.

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It's not that much of a hoax, but it's the headlines that didn't correct themselves and

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didn't take the update seriously.

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I think that's fair to call it somewhat of a hoax.

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It's hard not to see that Rogan clip where he's like, oh, this is too good for me not

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to use.

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And then you see that behavior echoed in the mainstream media more often than you would

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like.

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Well, I don't know, because I think a lot of those articles will include updates or

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they'll like...

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Totally.

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I think that that behavior you see with Alex, but he just doesn't check.

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Don't get me wrong, there's a big difference later on, but it's there.

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So also Alex is fudging details about the monkeys that escaped from that truck crash

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earlier this year.

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That truck was carrying a hundred research monkeys, but they didn't all have monkey pox.

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Alex is making that up.

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In fact, they're macaque monkeys, which are actually not known to be very susceptible

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to monkey pox.

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They can get it, but it's kind of rare compared to other species of monkey.

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Okay, so now you're scaring me because that suggests that we're all going to get monkey

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pox and these macaque monkeys will take over after we're gone.

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No, that's not going to happen.

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Also only four animals escaped from the trucks and by the next morning, three had been found

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and they found the last one that evening.

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So it's not like they were even on the run.

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Right, right, right.

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They hadn't been absorbed by Caesar yet and they haven't joined his gang.

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No, no, no.

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That documentary was pretty good though.

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I saw the second in that documentary, it escalates.

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So the woman that Alex is referring to didn't get monkey pox, but she did get sick after

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getting hissed at by one of the monkeys when she came in contact with its saliva.

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She walked up to the box that it was in.

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It wasn't one of the ones that escaped.

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Jurassic park style.

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Yeah.

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She got treated for rabies preemptively and she did come down with some mild non-specific

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symptoms.

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She also was at a birthday party the night before where a bunch of people ended up testing

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positive for COVID.

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So there's a lot of possibilities about how she came to have whatever symptoms she had.

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I don't know.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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There's a lot of questions, but what we do know is that she didn't have monkey pox.

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Alex is just throwing shit at the wall here, connecting unconnected dots in order to make

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a truly bizarre conspiracy theory.

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If AstraZeneca and the J and J vaccine caused monkey pox, we would be seeing so many more

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cases than we are.

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And they wouldn't have just happened now.

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They would have happened sooner since millions of people have taken that shot.

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And it's not like it's a new shot in the grand scheme of things, but it's not like it just

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rolled out last month or whatever.

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Two months ago.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think he's relying heavily on his audience not to stop and think, wait a second.

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Haven't millions upon millions of people received this vaccine already?

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Are they all monkey boxed?

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I feel like that is a problem.

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That is a problem.

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And the notion that it's about trying to get these amendments to the international health

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regulations that Alex conceivably should be in favor of because countries like China may

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or may not have withheld information that could have been useful.

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So once again, I forgot that this is all in service of the U.N. eventually being able

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to during the next possible pandemic, go and double check to see if China is lying to us.

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Something like that.

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Yeah.

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So look, they're just they're giving people smallpox, I guess.

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Sure.

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Of course.

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With the vaccines.

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Unbelievable.

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Because the virus thing.

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It is unbelievable.

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The the the chimpanzee ape DNA is what causes smallpox.

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They're injecting people with a damn smallpox, knowing it would cause smallpox.

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All right, man.

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OK, so it's wild that this is just coming up now.

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Like I thought the whole thing with the covid vaccine was they gave people like myocarditis

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or whatever.

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Now it's about spreading smallpox, which is quite an escalation.

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They put the monkey genes inside of you, dad.

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So Alex is making shit up because the AstraZeneca vaccine uses a recombinant replication deficient

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chimpanzee adenovirus vector in order to deliver the vaccine.

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He saw chimpanzee and then decided to run with it full speed.

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The adenovirus is not the virus that causes smallpox.

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That would be variola, which isn't even used in the smallpox vaccine, because why would

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you do that?

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Right.

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That would be a bad idea.

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A lot of these viruses basically cause colds.

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J&J also uses an adenovirus, but it's a human strain.

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It's type 26.

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So it's not monkey DNA.

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It's a virus that generally affects monkeys.

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Right.

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For chimpanzees, which are apes, actually, not monkeys.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Like, that's the level of connection Alex is making in order to be like, you smallpox.

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It's pathetic and also just like really, really dangerous mentality.

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Yeah.

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I do think he doesn't understand.

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And I think it's hard to keep this in your mind.

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You know, it's like if you have a virus that causes monkeypox, the monkey part is something

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we apply to it because the virus can evolve outside of the, the virus exists without monkeys.

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The virus can be anywhere if it wants to be, I mean, I don't know if it has wants.

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Maybe, maybe that's hard for you to keep in your mind because you've gotten the vaccine

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and you are part monkey now.

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Because I'm a part monkey.

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No, that makes sense.

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You have monkey brain.

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I really wish that we were close enough genetically that all of our vaccines were more lizard

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based and I got regenerative powers on top of it.

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I think this is a big problem.

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Yeah.

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I hear that Bill Gates is working on that.

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I hope so.

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Because as we know, oftentimes the devil is depicted as sort of lizardish and you know.

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But isn't he using it to give himself regenerative properties and then leave the planet?

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And that's probably how he's going to be able to breathe in space.

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That asshole.

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Yeah.

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Just like him.

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And then he's going to leave us all as monkeys.

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I'll probably be happier.

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God, this is just ridiculous.

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I can't, I understand, like to be fair, the situation with monkeypox is something that

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is not, shouldn't be taken like super lightly, but there are health officials that are aware

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of it and tracing the cases and you know, they're on the case.

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What Alex is doing is laughable and just pathetic.

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Right.

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And what's important is that the rest of conservative media is not using a monkeypox sphere to bring

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fascism into our country.

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We're still doing that with COVID.

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Give him a week.

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So it turns out this is the next plague, basically, according to Alex.

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But if you just tuned in, you need to call your friends, your family, your neighbors,

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everybody you know, because Gates has said in the next pandemic, which they've already

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launched ahead of the midterms, it's building now, just like you didn't hear much of the

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first of China, then it got huge.

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It's already begun.

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It's monkeypox.

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And they told you it would be smallpox, monkeypox.

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They knew that their so-called vaccines would cause this, AstraZeneca, J and J. Yeah.

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And they pre-ordered the monkeypox vaccine, Biden just got delivery of a bunch of it yesterday.

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It is going down.

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It's going down.

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This is so absurd.

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One of the really obvious, one of the obvious tells that Alex doesn't mean a single word

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he's saying, and you even responded to this, is that he's connecting it to the midterms.

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Does he really expect me to believe that some evil group of villains is going to launch

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a smallpox outbreak in order to possibly win a few seats in the midterms?

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That's so fucking stupid.

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The amount of damage that would be caused by a smallpox outbreak is almost hard to put

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into words.

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And if the globalists were really trying to depopulate the planet, I don't think they

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would care that much about whether or not the GOP takes back the Senate.

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None of this shit matters.

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It only matters to Alex.

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Listen, we need two more senators, and that means roughly several million people gotta

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die.

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That's just the way the politics works these days.

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Come on, man.

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And this thing has got to be released that has the possibility of getting so out of control

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that it kills everybody, like all of the elites that are presumably behind this plan.

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So dumb.

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Absolutely.

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So fucking stupid.

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Even in a general election.

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So like all of Spain gets monkey pox because they got to win the midterms.

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Yeah, they got to keep Lora Loomer out of Congress.

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Exactly.

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Like, really?

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That's what we're doing?

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That's just ridiculous.

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It's interesting that Alex brings up how you didn't hear much out of China in the early

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days of the COVID pandemic.

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Someone should probably tell him that the amendment to the World Health Organization

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regulations that he's demonizing is actually designed to make sure that future outbreaks

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don't have that same dynamic.

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Yeah.

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But I don't think he would listen, probably.

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Well, I mean, you can't have UN soldiers just going anywhere that they want to, you know,

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because there's so many fucking UN soldiers to go around.

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So many, so many, so many.

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So Alex brings up some Bill Gates clips that help improve his point.

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And yeah, they're not all that helpful.

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Here is Gates, again, the year before that in 2020, threatens the next pandemic will

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get the attention this time.

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He also said on other programs that terrorists would also release smallpox or monkey pox.

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That was a clip on NBC.

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It's so weird how the clips that seem most explicitly in line with the bullshit Alex

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is saying aren't the ones he plays.

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It's like weird how the dynamic always seems to be present, where he just tells the audience

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about those ones and then plays other clips that don't really make the points he needs

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them to.

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It's weird, almost like he's making shit up.

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You know, I mean, you do it one or two times.

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Hey, that that happens.

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That's a mistake.

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I think when you make a career out of it, it might be a bit of a red flag pattern.

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This clip that he's talking about is really interesting, though, because he says that

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Gates was threatening that the next pandemic would get attention.

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That seems weird because this one's gotten a whole lot of fucking attention.

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So here's the actual clip that Alex is talking about.

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I want to I want to challenge you, Jordan, to pay attention and see if you can tell where

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the lie is.

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Here is Bill Gates.

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We didn't actually do the simulation to think about, OK, what about nursing homes?

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What about getting factories ready?

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What about the testing regime?

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You know, in fact, the testing could have been ramped up very quickly in a few countries

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that have almost avoided the epidemic entirely, like Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia.

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You know, they took their experience and actually prepared.

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And so they moved a lot faster.

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So we, you know, we'll have to prepare for the next one that, you know, I'd say is we'll

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get attention this time.

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Oh, he's so happy.

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So yeah, do you see where the lie was there?

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See what Bill Gates is saying, we'll get attention.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He specifically said at the beginning they didn't pay attention to the variable of like

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nursing homes and stuff like that.

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He's saying there are factors that we missed in the course of this public health response

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that will get attention in the case of a future public health emergency.

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This is bullshit.

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Now, I'm pretty sure what he was trying to say is that next time, in the next few years

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when this one happens, the New York Times will finally cover the story.

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Right.

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Right.

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It's about time that the pandemic got some attention.

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Like nobody's expecting CNN to get there.

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Right.

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That's their CNN.

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And next time they'll notice me, print media needs to get on the ball.

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Yeah.

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Ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, Alex seems to be, when I say seems to be, he absolutely is lying about this Bill

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Gates clip.

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Pretty bad.

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Pretty bad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And he continues to.

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In this next clip, Alex goes a little bit more into this and makes up some more stuff

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about monkey pox.

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Aren't these some really nice, nice people?

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Oh, the next one will really get your attention.

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And now right on time, like a German train pulling into the station in countries all

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over the Western world, monkey pox just showed up in who?

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The vaccinated.

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It all makes sense.

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Isn't Mussolini, the one who made the trains run on time?

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Well, he famously made one train run on time.

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But isn't the expression about Italy?

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Yes.

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It's not about Germany.

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At least he made their trains run on time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So also I don't believe that Alex has this little ability to understand the words he's

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hearing, like in terms of Bill Gates's clip.

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He knows damn well what Gates was saying, but he's pretending that he thinks what he

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does because it's easier to scare the audience that way.

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He knows what he's doing and it's proof and just a demonstration of that he's a malicious

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liar because he is.

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Yeah.

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The balls on you to be like, oh, the next one will get your attention.

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Shut up.

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Come on, man.

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We got plenty of attention.

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Maybe more attention than the thing that's dominated people's lives for years.

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Yes.

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Exactly.

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Great.

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And so Alex has absolutely zero idea whether or not the people who have got monkey pox

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are vaccinated.

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He's making that up that they are because his new conspiracy depends on that being true.

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But he couldn't demonstrate this claim if his life depended on it.

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There's a decent chance that some of the folks who got sick had been vaccinated just based

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on percentages.

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That wouldn't surprise me too much.

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But Alex is going to have to work way harder if he wants to claim there's some sort of

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causation here, which is definitely the tree he's barking up.

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Yeah.

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Isn't it also just like a hundred people?

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It's not a ton of people, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Again, a ton of people have been vaccinated with all kinds of vaccines.

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There's a pretty decent chance that it is a little bit more than that.

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But yeah, it's like 92 confirmed cases as of the preparation of this episode, according

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to the World Health Organization.

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And they're in different countries that have different vaccines approved in them.

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Right.

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This would be a very difficult narrative to make stick in any audience that's not Alex's

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audience because he has trained them to believe whatever dumb shit he says.

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Yeah, 100%.

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There's no way that you hear that as a rational person and not go like, hold on about something,

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about any one of the many things you could say.

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So many variables that you should take issue with.

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Yes, exactly.

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So Alex is talking about this monkeypox situation, and he makes a bizarre leap because I think

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that he's running out of ground to run like the roadrunner, you know?

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Right, right, right.

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So he's run out of ground under his feet and jumps to something else, which is weird.

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And rare monkeypox outbreak in people that hadn't been to Africa, people that hadn't

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been to any country and they hadn't been around, but they all had the shot.

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And I have scientists and health heads even saying we think it's the shot.

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Health heads?

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We have deputy heads of major countries' health departments right here.

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Madrid's deputy minister of public health claims cases of hepatitis of young kids are

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related to COVID-19 vaccine.

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Funny, I've got the studies right here.

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Just like monkeypox, what?

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Weird.

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Oh, isn't it nice?

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Weird.

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So Alex is talking about the idea that monkeypox is caused by the COVID vaccine, but then he

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weirdly jumps to talking about hepatitis cases.

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All diseases are caused by the COVID vaccine.

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That sleight of hand is really important to recognize as a trick he uses to distract the

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audience and make them think that he's proven something when in reality he hasn't said shit.

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There was an outbreak of hepatitis, but the World Health Organization was pretty clear

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that it had nothing to do with the COVID vaccine since, quote, the vast majority of affected

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children did not receive COVID-19 vaccination.

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Cool.

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Also, the headline Alex is reporting on about the deputy public health minister in Madrid,

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that's from Gateway Pundit, and it's actually completely wrong.

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The minister in question, Antonio Zapatero, had actually said the opposite and was being

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critical of inaccurate media reports linking the vaccine to the hepatitis cases.

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The Spanish health ministry released a clarification because of this, and Alex is actually just

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reporting on an article that was 180 degrees from the truth.

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That's almost like if you're disinformation and you're just feeling spiteful.

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You hear somebody who's like, listen, this is something that's important and I don't

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like the media twisting our claims.

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So they're like, fuck you.

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We're going to twist those claims.

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Yeah.

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Good job, Jim Hoft or his twin brother, I don't remember who was responsible for writing

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that one.

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Yeah.

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It's just, it's bad work.

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It's bad work.

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So we have, you know, some, I guess, monkey pox fears that the COVID vaccine is causing

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it and it's proven somehow by pointing to a completely inaccurate story linking the

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COVID vaccine to hepatitis.

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But there's a third condition you should know about.

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It's unbelievable.

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Here's some of those studies I mentioned earlier.

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And this is meningitis after COVID-19 vaccination, a case report.

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So yeah, this is a case study of a single person who got meningitis after vaccination.

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There's not a causal link established, but I was able to find a second case study covering

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two patients, which recommends that doctors be aware of this phenomenon, but doesn't say

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that the vaccines caused it.

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Also, all of the patients that are in question made a full recovery with quote, no residual

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neurological deficits.

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This study does nothing to further Alex's claims and it's not related to hepatitis or

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monkey pox.

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This is just like, just a anti-vax bouillabaisse, smorgasbord, just mixing up everything in

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this big vat.

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I heard the deputy health director for Venezuela said that all broken legs were caused by the

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COVID vaccine.

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It's true.

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Every time you got it, yeah, you get the shot and boom, your left tibia breaks in half,

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all gone.

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So Alex reads the headline or two different headlines about that same meningitis case

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study.

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That's two stories.

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Two studies, man.

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Two studies.

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Two different ones.

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Yeah.

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And then here is the next thing in his list of studies he's citing.

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Is it true that the AstraZeneca vaccine contains animal DNA of a chimpanzee?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I'm going to put those on to lay all this out and what it's doing.

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It's just unbelievable.

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This isn't a study and the article itself doesn't back up Alex's claims.

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This is from the Australian government's health website.

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The AstraZeneca vaccine doesn't contain animal DNA.

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It uses an adenovirus that infects chimpanzees as a vector, but that's not the same thing.

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The article doesn't back up Alex's claims at all, but the headline contains all the

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words Alex needs to create a certain appearance, and the audience doesn't care what the actual

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article says.

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Alex answers the question in the headline for them, and they accept that as truth as

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opposed to what the source Alex is using actually says.

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The reason that Alex trails off and then just says that the article goes on to lay it all

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out is because he's cold reading this, and he realizes in the middle of that that the

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article contradicts him, so he needs to bail and just start rambling.

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Whenever you hear him say, it goes on, that is a tell that he's in over his head, and

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he doesn't know the information he's pretending to, and probably what he's about to read

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accidentally would be counter to his entire narrative.

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Let me tell you something.

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This is going to be really scary to Alex.

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This is going to blow his mind, all right?

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You already have monkey DNA inside you, buddy, a lot of it, almost all of it.

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We're monkeys.

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No way, man.

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No way, man.

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Yeah, dude.

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We're apes, dude.

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We're the same fucking shit, man.

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To be fair, Alex does not believe in evolution, so he probably would disagree with you on

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that.

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Nah.

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So look, we already know now that the race war narratives and the race war lockdowns

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that Alex was really concerned about earlier in the week seem to have disappeared because

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the public health lockdown stuff is more pressing now, and this is the biggest news that Alex

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has covered in his 28 years on air, even though it's something that he has already covered

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back in 2003, and it fizzled out because he was lying about it.

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So we have no race war lockdowns, but it turns out Alex is retaining some pieces of his coverage

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of the Buffalo shooting, probably the worst ones he could.

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That's what I was thinking.

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Putin's top aides predict global famine of Armageddon-like and apocalyptic.

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These are, quote, proportions, all based on the two plus year lockdown, where in many

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third world countries, the IMF and World Bank ordered them to have up to two years of lockdown,

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devastating them, collapsing them, 40 plus million starved to death.

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Now the refugees are flooding the West as part of the replacement migration operation.

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So we got that going.

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Wow.

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I would hate it if they kept using great replacement theory.

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I do appreciate updating it to RMO.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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I mean, there's a plan in place that Alex is pointing to of replacement.

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Yeah, I mean, I think that it's notable that the hateful elements of his Buffalo shooting

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coverage remain while the fear-based things that he wants the audience to engage with

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have shifted over to the pandemic ones.

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Sure.

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I mean, no, no, no.

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It's like leftovers.

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You know, the flavor is different.

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It's the same food, but you can't reheat it and expect it to taste the same.

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It's just, um, I would say shocking, but it's not, I mean, it should be shocking.

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It's just what Alex does.

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Yeah, exactly.

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We're, we're too late in this game to be shocked by this anymore.

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So one of the things that was going on in social media land over the course of, uh,

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last week or so has been, uh, Elon Musk, uh, doing some, some shenanigans.

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Oh man.

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Oh, that guy.

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Oh boy.

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So, um, he announced that he was going to vote Republican and, uh, then he said, well,

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that's one thing.

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And then he said that attacks on him would intensify.

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And then it turned out that prior to him making those tweets, someone had reached out about

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allegations that he had exposed himself to a, uh, a flight attendant.

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And, uh, a lot of people, uh, are putting some pieces together and thinking, Hey, maybe,

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maybe this whole thing about, uh, you know, voting Republican and, uh, the attacks against

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me are going to intensify maybe some sort of a preemptive, um, sort of a way to get

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ahead of a story.

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Uh, maybe.

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I just, I just don't understand.

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Are you saying that an unimaginably wealthy man with absolute zero accountability, uh,

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took advantage of a defenseless woman?

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That seems crazy.

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I've never heard of that.

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There are, there are allegations and, um, I, I look, obviously I don't know all the

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ins and outs and all the details of everything, but I would say that Elon Musk's behavior

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has not come off great.

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Uh, seems, it seems like the, uh, what's happened, uh, very, very much like someone who's guilty.

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Uh, I would say that his behavior does not inspire much confidence in me that, uh, um,

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he is blameless, um, but Alex has a bit of a different perspective on this and, uh, seems

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to think that, uh, Elon Musk is totally cool and absolutely in the right.

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There's so much to tackle what's happening with Elon Musk.

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He said, look, every time somebody bucks the globalist, they're going to do the me too

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thing.

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And he's challenging this, uh, stewardess on a private jet is a failed accuracy saying

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and saying, tell me this very identifiable thing on my genitals if I supposedly showed

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you my genitals.

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Uh, and this is again, all being done to punish him because he says he's going to vote Republican.

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We've got all that and so much more.

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What's going to happen to Biden.

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Yeah.

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So I, I, Alex has, he's exactly the target for Elon Musk's sort of self, uh, defense.

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Yeah.

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It should not be this easy.

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And it's totally this easy to swing Alex.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, no.

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I mean just the whole, the, the whole conservative, I was like, that's, that is a smart way to

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try and evade accountability in the court of public opinion is just suddenly be like,

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Hey, I'm right wing and they're attacking the right wing.

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It has nothing to do with being held accountable for my shitty behavior.

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Hey, listen up, you dumb army of morons come to my aid.

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It took two seconds, free speech, rich person said he's voting Republican.

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So all of you need to get involved.

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Oh my God.

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Jesus Christ.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's um, it's bizarre to, to sort of see this play out as publicly and sort of transparently

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as it has.

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So obvious.

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I, I, I'm sort of bewildered by that, you know, that he, the, the way that, uh, he's

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tweeting through it is, you know, it, it's upsetting.

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I mean, I'm at this place now where it's just like learning.

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It's done.

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It's done as a concept.

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Learning doesn't happen anymore.

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People only make the exact same mistake over and over and over again.

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It's almost comforting now to know that people will fuck up in the same way.

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Hmm.

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Well, I mean, that's hopefully not true because our public health people need to take a, you

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know, this precaution.

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Oh yeah, that's true.

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So Alex does not end up being, uh, correct about, uh, so Alex has some guests on, uh,

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on this episode.

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Uh, the first one is a little lawyer, buddy of his, Bobby Barnes is around and, uh, Hey,

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turns out he also thinks that, uh, the monkey pox is going to be a big deal.

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What is your view on what's currently happening?

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And for me, it's pretty obvious the next big lockdown, the next big rollout and the way

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to get this power grabbing sovereignty, destroying you in biomedical tyranny in, uh, is currently

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with the smallpox hysteria that I'm predicting is going to go ahead and escalate out of control.

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Just like COVID.

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What do you think?

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Uh, well, I mean, no doubt.

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So the smallpox hysteria, now we're really playing fast and loose here with all the small

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pox hepatitis COVID, you name it.

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We got it.

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It's a one stop shop.

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Yeah.

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Not going to listen to a ton of Barnes's interview, but it should be noted that a lot of it is

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him talking about how he's working with Robert Kennedy Jr. to do like litigation against

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the vaccine and stuff.

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And so like, yeah, maybe, maybe you have a little bit of a biased perspective on this.

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I've got a new thing for people to donate money to that won't go anywhere.

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I'm on the anti-vax legal grift.

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Good times, good times.

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So the other guests that Alex has is a duo, a twofer, um, and it's Peter McCullough, who

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is a big anti-vex doctor, um, and a guy named John Leek, who is an author.

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And, uh, the, the, the, the thrust of this interview is that John Leek has written a

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book about McCullough called the courage to stand up or the courage to fight COVID-19

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or something like that.

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Um, and, and here's the, here's the situation.

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I find this to be a fairly damning, uh, uh, book to exist.

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And also an interview because, uh, this Leek guy, he fancies himself a true crime author.

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And so the perspective that he took and the entry point for him in terms of covering COVID-19

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was as a true crime story.

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And then he involved Peter McCullough in, uh, to help him with the like scientific aspects

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of this.

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So now you have a guy who's invested in writing a book from a true crime angle about the COVID

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vaccine.

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And the main subject of his book is this Peter McCullough guy, who's going around, appearing

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on Tucker, appearing on Laura Ingram's show, appearing with Joe Rogan, who now, if he doesn't

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have the perspective that this is a true crime kind of vibe, what does that do for his book?

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Like what does this do for the book that they're working to release?

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It kind of, it kind of looks a little bit, um, shady.

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Well, well, I mean, I would say that if a true crime writer, uh, put together an entire

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novel, an entire book that was really, really well done.

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And then before they published it, it was proven, uh, that the person, they said 100%

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did it 100% didn't.

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I would assume that more likely than not, they'll just be like, no, I think you're wrong

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by my book.

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I think that, well, I mean, look for whatever the leak guy, whatever his business is, it's

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sort of secondary in some ways to like Peter McCullough.

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I mean, it kind of makes you committed to a conclusion.

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I think at a certain point when you have this guy who's writing a true crime book about

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you, it would kind of, I can't write a true crime novel about not a crime, right?

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It would look bad if you were like, well, you know what?

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I've gone over this and uh, turns out I, I do, I think that some of our previous assumptions

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that this true crime novel we're based on are maybe a little bit faulty.

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I think you can't do that.

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I'll tell you something right now.

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You know that thing everybody's debunked a lot.

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I tried to make it true and it can't be done, but it can in the context of a true crime

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ish novel kind of thing where you can make it fake true.

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Yeah.

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You're sort of bent and shit.

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So their interview is, um, not really all that important past that just sort of revelation

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that you have this, this sort of dynamic involved where like this guy who's supposed to be like

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a truth teller about all the stuff that the media is covering up about Ivermectin or whatever

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the fuck like, uh, he has this sort of side, um, influence, let's say, uh, that makes some

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of his, his, his perspectives a little bit questionable.

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Um, but there are some funny things.

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The first is that Alex, um, this, this clip is just great because I think it's Alex talking

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himself into being like, yeah, I can say I've read your books.

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I wasn't gonna, but I can, I can, I can say that I can't wait to read the book because

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when I'm reading the synopsis here, I'm not a historian or criminologist like you that

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writes famous, powerful true crime books, but just studying criminology and I have read

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some of your books.

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Uh, now that I remember and think about it, cause I like true, uh, true crime.

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You're one of the top guys.

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Yeah.

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Talk himself into it.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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You know what?

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I am willing to take a stab at it.

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I felt it out and I don't think you're going to correct me.

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Yeah.

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I took a look at it and I realized you're not going to be like, Oh yeah.

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Which one did you like the most?

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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I'm going to tell you that you're one of the top writers in true crime and you're not going

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to come in with false modesty or, so, uh, so yeah, just let it fly.

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This is a pure transaction.

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I tell you, you're good.

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You pretend I've read your shit.

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We move on.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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Um, so we have one last clip here and it's that guy, John Leake, the, the writer here,

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uh, talking to Alex about the way that we counter the propaganda that's going on in

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the mainstream media about health existing.

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I imagine it has something to do with watching more info wars and reading more of his book.

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Wow.

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I wonder if that's the case.

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So how do we counter this?

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I mean, I think it starts with being aware that you're swimming in this sea of propaganda.

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I mean, you know, this may seem like normalcy because the messaging has been so relentless,

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but once you realize a normal is being created, when you turn on the television, um, quit,

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quit accepting that that television is an accurate representation of reality.

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You need to start, you need to start listening to Alex Jones.

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I mean, all I say is they should question everything we're saying.

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We try to give articles and documents.

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I make mistakes.

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I'm not perfect, but I'm not trying to lie.

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I counter that.

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I protest to that.

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I do.

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I cannot live in a world where Alex actually does not mean to lie because the level of

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mistakes, the level of things that he gets wrong constantly and the level of things that

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he gets wrong in the exact same direction.

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Um, I think you're misunderstanding the way that he's using words there.

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As you said, you, you said, how does he, he can't possibly not mean to lie.

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My friend, he means to lie.

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He is just not trying.

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He is succeeding.

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Okay.

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That's how you got to think of it.

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I'm not trying to lie.

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I'm kicking ass at lying.

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I am murdering lying.

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I'm like one of the top liars there's ever been.

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Yeah.

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I guess, I guess if you look at it that way, you might, you might have some wiggle room

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where he can get away with this.

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So yeah, but you were right.

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Your prediction.

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Watch more Infomorphs.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right on.

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Right on.

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Yeah.

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Um, so yeah, I mean, look, we, we, we come to the end of this and I, I wanted, I wanted

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to have a longer episode because like, you know, we're, we're about an hour and it's,

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you know, that's unsatisfying in some ways.

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It's maybe a normal length for some other shows, but for us, it feels like a, an Amu's

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I mean, it's almost like we're, we might as well be taking a day off if we're only doing

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an hour and 10, you know?

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Yeah.

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It's, it's, uh, it's unfortunate.

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Um, but the, you know, the, the circumstances of, you know, trying to be overly careful

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and you know, you're taking care of your, your partner.

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Um, you know, and I don't know this technology all that well.

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I didn't know, you know, if we're going to have a big fuck up.

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So um, it's, it's, it's a little ungratifying, but that, that said.

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And I will, I will guarantee a sneaky snake for everyone.

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And I also think that we needed to, to have an episode about this, um, because there's

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a lot of talk about the monkey pox stuff and of course, and Alex's angle on it is so ridiculous.

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Um, that, you know, it merits talking about, but at the end of the day, there's not really

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that much else to say outside of what you can cover in about an hour.

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So there's that.

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I mean, Roger Stone did say that the North Korean shipped in monkey pox along with the

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ballots in Maine.

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So that's why it took so long to get the rest of the monkey pox out to the country.

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You know, it's tough to get to Maine.

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I would love it if Alex puts out a compilation of the times that he predicted monkey pox

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and its videos from 2003.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That would be great.

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That would be great.

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I expect that something like that is coming.

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Um, but anyway, Jordan will be back, uh, on our next episode and we will, uh, be in person

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and dig more into something, uh, but we have a website.

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We do.

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It's knowledge fight.com.

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Yep.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed.

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Jordan.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Thank you so much for being with us and we'll see you in the next one.