Transcript/571: May 22-27, 2003

From Knowledge Fight Wiki
Revision as of 23:54, 1 March 2025 by RainbowBatch (talk | contribs) (RainbowBatch update)
(diff) ← Older revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

Warning: Bot Generated Content
This transcript was automatically generated by transcription software and likely contains many mistakes and misattributions. Please check the audio for definitive quotes, attribution, and context.

Unknown Speaker (00:00:00.000)
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
Unknown Speaker (00:00:23.960)
fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:24.960)
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
Unknown Speaker (00:00:30.839)
fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:31.839)
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:32.840)
Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:33.840)
I need, I need money.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:34.840)
Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:35.840)
Andy and Kansas.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:36.840)
Andy and Kansas.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:37.840)
Stop it.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:38.840)
Andy and Kansas.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:39.840)
Andy and Kansas.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:40.840)
It's time to pray.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:41.840)
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:42.840)
Thanks for holding us.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:43.840)
Hello, Alex.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:44.840)
I'm a first-time caller.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:45.840)
I'm a huge fan.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:46.840)
I love your room.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:47.840)
Knowledge fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:48.840)
Knowledgefight.com I love you.
Unknown Speaker (00:00:55.759)
Hey, everybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:00.039)
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:01.039)
I'm Dan.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:02.039)
I'm Jordan.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:03.039)
We're a couple dudes.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:04.040)
We like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones and
Unknown Speaker (00:01:06.099)
also worship at the altar of Selene.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:08.599)
Damn it.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:09.599)
Autopilot, baby.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:10.599)
Hey, hey, it's okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:11.599)
It's okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:12.599)
It's okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:13.599)
It's okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:14.599)
We got a sneaky steak episode.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:16.540)
You don't have to nail it perfectly.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:18.120)
I didn't even realize that until after it had come out of my mouth that I had, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:21.959)
No, I didn't hear it at all.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:23.439)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:24.439)
I heard you say worship at the altar of Selene and then just let it, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:27.920)
I think I've been making so many buttons with Selene on them that it's just like-
Unknown Speaker (00:01:31.840)
It's in your brain all the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:33.879)
That's where that lives.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:34.879)
It's an unspoken situation.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:36.480)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:37.480)
Yes, Dan.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:38.480)
But I do have a question for you.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:40.040)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:41.040)
What's your bright spot today?
Unknown Speaker (00:01:42.040)
My bright spot today, Jordan, is a lot of nice messages that people have sent with the
Unknown Speaker (00:01:49.480)
requests for buttons.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:51.459)
As I make these buttons, unfortunately, there's so many that I cannot possibly respond to
Unknown Speaker (00:01:56.920)
most of these.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:57.920)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:01:58.920)
So please just know that I have read these messages and I very much appreciate them,
Unknown Speaker (00:02:02.879)
and their buttons will be sent as they're received.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:06.959)
Also-
Unknown Speaker (00:02:07.959)
Here's your response to the message, some fucking buttons.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:11.639)
That's right.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:12.639)
I'm taking a weirdly aggressive tone.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:14.039)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:15.039)
That is how I'm feeling.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:16.039)
Also, something that has come up a number of times is people wanting to pay for postage,
Unknown Speaker (00:02:21.120)
particularly international wonks, thinking like, I'll pay something for postage.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:26.199)
That's a really nice thing, but I want this to be a gift for folks.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:31.400)
I appreciate that, but I don't want to accept that, but I also don't want to be disrespectful
Unknown Speaker (00:02:35.560)
to that generosity.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:36.560)
Of course not.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:37.560)
So if anybody feels the desire to, here's what I would say, this is my blanket response.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:43.719)
Feel free to give a little donation to a charity that you support, or you think that Selene
Unknown Speaker (00:02:48.139)
would support, and do it in the name of my cat.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:52.520)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:02:53.520)
We will all worship at the altar of Selene eventually, because that is the name that
Unknown Speaker (00:02:58.159)
will be donating to every cause from now on.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:02.000)
Right, donate to a charity in my cat's name, and that'll be good for the postage.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:07.599)
That'll be good for everybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:09.240)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:10.240)
So my bright spot was thinking about that.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:15.759)
Imagine if we were as wealthy as Bill Gates, and you were just like, ah, our foundation
Unknown Speaker (00:03:21.259)
is named the Cult of Selene.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:23.039)
Let's move on.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:24.039)
Yeah, that wouldn't start any conspiracies at all.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:26.199)
No problem at all there.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:28.199)
We're donating $3 billion in the name of the Cult of Selene.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:32.159)
Uh-oh.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:33.159)
Uh-oh.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:34.159)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:35.159)
What's your bright spot, Jordan?
Unknown Speaker (00:03:36.159)
Dan, my bright spot is Wimbledon!
Unknown Speaker (00:03:38.159)
Goddammit, what a tennis.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:40.319)
Another tennis one.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:41.319)
No, this year, because of the, I don't know if you noticed, but the past year has been
Unknown Speaker (00:03:44.479)
rough.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:45.479)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:46.479)
So this year, the French Open and Wimbledon were only a month apart, and I will tell you
Unknown Speaker (00:03:50.080)
this, inspiring shit, Dan.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:52.240)
Whoa.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:53.240)
Andy Murray.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:54.240)
Andy Murray.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:55.240)
The Andy Murray?
Unknown Speaker (00:03:56.240)
The Andy Murray.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:57.240)
The Andy Murray.
Unknown Speaker (00:03:58.240)
Former member of the Big Four, back when there was a Big Four and Andy was not kicked out
Unknown Speaker (00:04:02.599)
of it.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:03.599)
Former world number one, destroyed by injuries.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:07.039)
He's old as shit now.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:10.000)
Back in Wimbledon, for the first time in years, won his first match.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:14.379)
So did Federer, coming back after his injuries at Wimbledon, my friend.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:19.120)
Whoa.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:20.120)
This is a big deal.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:21.399)
So anyway, that's my bright spot.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:23.079)
Oh.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:24.079)
I've got a lot of energy.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:25.800)
Andy Murray is an amazing person.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:28.040)
I understand that, but that was like Charlie Brown's teacher to me.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:31.519)
That was just, wah wah, wah wah wah wah wah.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:33.560)
I could not understand a word you were saying.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:36.439)
This is why I keep my love to myself.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:39.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:40.439)
I want to care, and I want to join you in the things that make you excited, but I could
Unknown Speaker (00:04:46.519)
not, like my eyes glazed over.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:49.480)
I'd listen to you talk about Christian Ska on a podcast on my own time, too.
Unknown Speaker (00:04:55.879)
Well, that's because I have interesting thoughts about it, unlike you.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:01.240)
Unlike me and tennis?
Unknown Speaker (00:05:02.240)
No, I understand.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:03.240)
I understand completely.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:04.240)
I have some more thoughts about Survivor, if you're interested.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:12.319)
So Jordan, instead of some wonk shout-outs today, one of the things I wanted to do since
Unknown Speaker (00:05:15.800)
we're doing a Sneaky Snake Wednesday episode here, I wanted to get into the mailbag, because
Unknown Speaker (00:05:21.439)
it's been a little while.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:22.439)
It has been a while.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:23.439)
We have a little bit of catching up to do.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:25.680)
So Steve and London, I want to give you a thanks for the Department of Truth graphic
Unknown Speaker (00:05:29.480)
novel.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:30.480)
Yes, thank you very much.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:31.480)
Appreciate that.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:33.160)
Also Jase sent some cool shirts, those Q shirts, those Q Meme shirts kind of thing, from Infidel
Unknown Speaker (00:05:41.480)
Meme Wear, and I went over to their website and checked out some of the designs.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:46.279)
They're pretty cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:47.800)
I think there's one I may end up getting a hoodie.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:53.399)
This is not sponsored.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:54.399)
This isn't spawn-con, but thank you for the shirt and cool stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:05:59.920)
Thank you very much.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:00.920)
Also, Keith and Laurel sent a care package a while back, and I have been horrible about
Unknown Speaker (00:06:06.759)
giving a thank you, and I really appreciate it.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:08.639)
Thank you, folks.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:10.399)
Giving that horrible into lore-able, and thank you very much, Keith and Laurel.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:14.519)
You're a basket of lore-ables.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:20.720)
So thank you so much.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:22.720)
Also this is something that we forgot to do, and I felt a little bit guilty about it, and
Unknown Speaker (00:06:26.879)
that was when we were giving a thank you to Bex.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:30.639)
Bex sent that ukulele, the pink ukulele that we were very confused about, and it turns
Unknown Speaker (00:06:34.759)
out it was for you, because of Steven Universe.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:37.120)
Steven Universe, pink lion!
Unknown Speaker (00:06:38.480)
And then I got a green ukulele from Bex because of plants, but what I forgot to do was Bex
Unknown Speaker (00:06:46.040)
requested that I give a shout-out to Quicksilver on the Discord, and I forgot to do that, and
Unknown Speaker (00:06:51.120)
I would like to write that wrong by saying, what's up, Quicksilver?
Unknown Speaker (00:06:55.079)
Hey, Quicksilver on the Discord.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:56.800)
I have no idea what any of this means.
Unknown Speaker (00:06:59.759)
This is also Charlie Brown's teachers.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:03.800)
So Jordan, let's get heavy.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:05.660)
Giving someone life is giving someone death.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:10.579)
You could say that life is death.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:15.680)
You could.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:16.680)
You could.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:17.680)
Happy birthday, J.G.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:18.680)
Gunner!
Unknown Speaker (00:07:19.680)
Hope you had a good one.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:21.120)
Also, Dexter reached out and wanted us to wish a happy birthday to Zoe.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:24.839)
Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:25.839)
Zoe, happy birthday.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:26.839)
Wow, you can't be named Dexter and wish a happy birthday after opening with, giving
Unknown Speaker (00:07:31.439)
someone life is giving someone death.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:33.839)
I have never watched that show.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:35.079)
I don't think you need to.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:36.319)
I think you get the reference.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:37.720)
I do.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:38.720)
He kills serial killers.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:39.720)
He kills people.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:41.199)
Mm-hmm.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:42.199)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:43.199)
Cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:44.199)
I heard the ending was bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:45.199)
Probably.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:46.199)
I never watched the show either.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:47.199)
Also, Renee checked in and wanted to wish Rosemary a happy birthday, and this is fun
Unknown Speaker (00:07:52.439)
because Rosemary recently reached out and wanted to wish Renee a happy birthday.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:55.600)
Yeah, of course.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:56.600)
Of course.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:57.600)
So turn about is fair play.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:58.600)
Of course.
Unknown Speaker (00:07:59.600)
Also, Renee says, she's the best friend I could have, and thanks for putting up with
Unknown Speaker (00:08:01.920)
me.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:02.920)
Happy birthday, Rosemary.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:03.920)
Unfortunately, life is death.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:06.160)
Life is death.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:07.160)
According to Alex Jones.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:08.160)
Uh, unfortunately.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:09.160)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:10.160)
So, Jordan, today we're in the past.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:11.160)
Ooh.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:12.160)
I like the past.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:13.160)
We're digging into the past, and we're going to be talking about May 22nd through 27th,
Unknown Speaker (00:08:17.839)
2003.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:18.839)
2003.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:19.839)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:20.839)
No blackjack.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:21.839)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:22.839)
Dealer got blackjacked.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:24.839)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:25.839)
Um, and, oof, not great.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:29.920)
Not a great stretch of time.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:30.920)
If I'm going to be perfectly honest with you, there's some funny things that happen, but
Unknown Speaker (00:08:34.720)
in terms of, like, if you're looking for anything in-depth, I am afraid you're not going to
Unknown Speaker (00:08:38.519)
find it here.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:39.519)
Not going to happen?
Unknown Speaker (00:08:40.519)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:41.519)
May 22nd, not the best day of the year.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:42.519)
22nd and 23rd, a lot of it is talking about Bilderberg.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:46.580)
A lot of it is talking about the same sort of Bilderberg conspiracies that we've discussed
Unknown Speaker (00:08:50.580)
over and over again, and it's very boilerplate, fairly boring, and that's Thursday and Friday.
Unknown Speaker (00:08:57.980)
Alex doesn't have a Sunday show at this point.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:00.039)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:01.039)
Monday is a repeat of a show from the past week.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:04.000)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:05.000)
Because I think it's Memorial Day.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:06.000)
Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:07.000)
That makes sense.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:08.000)
And then, so Tuesday, he comes back on the 27th, and there's a little bit of interesting
Unknown Speaker (00:09:12.639)
callers maybe, but, like, there is nothing going on.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:15.600)
Oh, man.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:16.600)
It is a wasteland.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:18.960)
I like how we've gotten so far into this show that a Bilderberg conspiracy, we're like,
Unknown Speaker (00:09:23.960)
Jesus, that's quaint.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:25.360)
Back in the day.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:26.360)
It kind of is.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:27.360)
Oh, Bilderberg, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:28.360)
They were scary back then.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:29.360)
Oh, man.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:30.360)
Bill Gates is killing everyone now!
Unknown Speaker (00:09:31.600)
Bill Gates-ter-berg.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:33.480)
There's one thing about the people that he has to talk about Bilderberg that I think
Unknown Speaker (00:09:38.200)
is worth pointing out, but in terms of the actual conspiracies, they're all just exactly
Unknown Speaker (00:09:45.440)
the same stuff, as always.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:47.639)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:48.639)
So...
Unknown Speaker (00:09:49.639)
I feel like a pertinent question every opening of the show is just going to be like, hey,
Unknown Speaker (00:09:53.600)
are we going to be getting into Blood Libel today, Dan?
Unknown Speaker (00:09:56.159)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:57.159)
That's what I thought.
Unknown Speaker (00:09:59.159)
Do you say Bilderberg in 2003?
Unknown Speaker (00:10:01.120)
I'm guessing anti-Semitism might come quicker than you think.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:05.840)
So we start here on the 22nd, and not much is going on until Alex takes some calls.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:12.120)
He takes some calls fairly early in the episode, and Alex, I think he's trying, he's Mr. Brightside.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:19.879)
He's talking to this caller.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:20.879)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:21.879)
Yeah, I just wanted to tell you, like, what I do, so, like, if other people are listening,
Unknown Speaker (00:10:25.399)
they'll do the same.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:26.399)
Like, I make, like, books with news stories, and I pass them all out, and I pass out your
Unknown Speaker (00:10:31.919)
movies, and 9-1-1 is the best one.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:35.240)
That's amazing.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:36.799)
Well, we're getting 90% wake up with Road to Tyranny of People.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:41.919)
Yeah, I get a lot of people who, yeah, they wake up and stuff, but, like, some of my friends,
Unknown Speaker (00:10:47.200)
like, if they even start talking to me about it, like, they're girlfriends or wives, you
Unknown Speaker (00:10:51.440)
know, like, give them a look, you know, they're not allowed to talk to me.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:54.600)
Most of my friends don't even talk to me anymore.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:58.399)
Man.
Unknown Speaker (00:10:59.399)
Man.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:00.399)
Don't blame the girlfriends.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:01.399)
Yeah, everyone's waking up, but now they won't talk to me anymore because their girlfriends
Unknown Speaker (00:11:06.879)
won't let them.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:09.200)
That's very sad.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:10.200)
That, that, uh, that is unfortunate.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:12.080)
That is, that is bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:14.919)
I need, I need corroborating evidence on we're getting 90% wake up.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:19.840)
Well, actually-
Unknown Speaker (00:11:20.840)
I need a survey response.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:23.240)
I need, uh, something.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:25.720)
I need something.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:26.720)
A Rasmussen poll.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:27.720)
You can't, look, I remember back when I first started out my job, one of the ways that we
Unknown Speaker (00:11:32.159)
marketed was with direct mail campaigns and you get like a 0.5% response.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:37.600)
That was the industry average.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:39.360)
If you're telling me, if you're telling me you're getting 90% wake up out of this, I
Unknown Speaker (00:11:43.559)
got to know what you're doing.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:44.759)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:45.759)
It's like, if you're getting 90% response, uh, to something, it's gotta be like heroin.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:51.480)
Yeah, totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:52.480)
Totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:53.480)
Or, or, or sophisticated brainwashing.
Unknown Speaker (00:11:56.519)
Um, so I actually do have a little bit of insight into this because Alex was talking
Unknown Speaker (00:12:01.799)
to another caller and he gives out DVDs to people and he's like, I'm getting a hundred
Unknown Speaker (00:12:07.360)
percent response from people, a hundred percent wake up and they talk about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:13.159)
And the way that this guy's defining that is that everybody who takes the DVD seems
Unknown Speaker (00:12:20.279)
happy about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:24.059)
But still there's a lot of people who are not taking the DVDs.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:27.840)
Which also means, um, they didn't necessarily watch it.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:32.519)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:33.519)
I don't know if there's follow up with these people about the content of it.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:37.639)
I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:38.799)
Uh, but this caller in particular, this first one is just really bumming me out because
Unknown Speaker (00:12:43.500)
you know, you can really see what this looks like in real life.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:46.720)
You know what this looks like in real life.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:48.039)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:49.039)
They're telling you weird shit and then their girlfriend's like, look, we can't have him
Unknown Speaker (00:12:52.200)
at parties anymore.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:53.200)
He really freaks out my normal friends.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:55.919)
Totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:56.919)
Totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:57.919)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:12:58.919)
He said something incredibly rude because somebody challenged him on this and he freaked
Unknown Speaker (00:13:03.200)
out because you're not awake.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:05.299)
We can't live that way.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:07.360)
That's not how we live.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:08.720)
If that guy wants to be over there by himself listening to Alex, fine.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:13.080)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:14.080)
Um, so this behavior also apparently extends to digital stuff with this caller.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:20.559)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:21.559)
Now every seed sprouts the first year and they're dormant.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:25.799)
I email stories like when people send me them stupid emails with like, you know, it's forwarded
Unknown Speaker (00:13:30.360)
a thousand times.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:31.779)
I still all them emails.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:33.120)
I email like Post Gazette and Trib stories and uh, and there's links with your movie
Unknown Speaker (00:13:39.000)
on there.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:40.000)
I emailed that to people.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:41.120)
I probably emailed like thousands and I probably got back like, like 20 responses.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:45.840)
I got like five thank yous and most people, you know, tell me I'm crazy or where'd you
Unknown Speaker (00:13:50.559)
get my email from?
Unknown Speaker (00:13:51.559)
You know, that's about a half a percent.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:53.559)
All right sir, I appreciate the call.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:56.960)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:13:57.960)
He's one of those weirdos that thinks the world is round.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:00.779)
He's definitely a weirdo.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:02.240)
He's definitely a weirdo.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:03.639)
He's getting chain emails, saving people's email addresses, spamming them, and then when
Unknown Speaker (00:14:10.379)
they respond, how did you get my email?
Unknown Speaker (00:14:12.720)
He keeps sending them Info Wars stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:16.279)
That's, that's, that's harassment.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:18.759)
I would say, uh, that's an interesting, look, I will give them this.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:24.620)
That is an innovation towards chain emails that I had not even considered that you could
Unknown Speaker (00:14:29.279)
essentially turn those into your own mailing list and just bother people for the rest of
Unknown Speaker (00:14:34.240)
their lives.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:35.240)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:36.240)
I mean, you could do that.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:37.720)
You'd also have to recognize if you do that, you're a piece of shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:41.600)
Yes, there is that.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:42.600)
They're not all innovations are good.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:44.639)
No, I will agree with that.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:47.039)
So Alex gets another call and this guy has got a bad question and Alex has a worse answer.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:52.360)
Alex, can I ask you a real quick question before the break there?
Unknown Speaker (00:14:55.679)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:14:56.679)
Someone told me that, uh, there, uh, the 9-11 attack, that, uh, there are 7,000 Jews that
Unknown Speaker (00:15:02.159)
are employed in the World Trade Center.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:03.600)
They were not employed at work that day.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:05.440)
You ever hear anything about that?
Unknown Speaker (00:15:06.940)
That is true.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:07.940)
MSNBC checked into it and said the urban legend was true.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:11.620)
Also the Jewish newspapers have reported they were told not to go to work.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:15.139)
That is a confirmed fact.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:17.440)
That's so fucked up.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:18.820)
I don't think it needs to be said that Alex is completely wrong and lending credibility
Unknown Speaker (00:15:22.580)
to an explicitly anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about 9-11 here.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:26.779)
This is lazy, sloppy behavior that only serves to validate the complete bullshit that this
Unknown Speaker (00:15:30.700)
caller has heard from his bigot friends.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:33.120)
And Alex is just using his platform as a voice of authority or certainty on the subject in
Unknown Speaker (00:15:37.220)
a way that is abhorrent.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:39.320)
You can very easily find the names of many Jewish victims of the 9-11 attack.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:43.779)
Some were on planes, some were firefighters who died trying to save their fellow person's
Unknown Speaker (00:15:47.279)
lives and many worked at the World Trade Center or at the Pentagon.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:50.820)
I could name specific names because I can.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:53.440)
I can find them.
Unknown Speaker (00:15:55.259)
And I've read biographic sketches of these people, little mini, mini obituaries, but
Unknown Speaker (00:16:01.299)
I'm not going to get into specifics out of respect for those people's memories.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:04.879)
And it wouldn't change anybody's mind anyways.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:07.460)
This narrative was a baseless claim that was made to demonize the Jewish population of
Unknown Speaker (00:16:10.740)
the United States and to imply some kind of complicity in the attack.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:14.460)
Alex should be deeply ashamed of this response.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:16.860)
I can't believe we got to the very first time in 2003 that the Jews were blamed for something
Unknown Speaker (00:16:22.860)
that they had nothing to do with.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:24.620)
I don't think this is the first time even in Alex's show in 2003 that we've gotten there,
Unknown Speaker (00:16:29.500)
but it was, I thought that that was bad on Alex's part.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:36.419)
I just think that they're, like this caller, they're going out to break.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:40.500)
He's saying, hey, is it true that all the Jewish people were told to stay home?
Unknown Speaker (00:16:46.700)
Yes, that is true.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:48.240)
It costs you nothing to just be like, no.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:51.019)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:52.019)
Actually, that is nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (00:16:53.019)
Yeah, there's no other, I mean, there's just no interpretation of that that doesn't wind
Unknown Speaker (00:16:57.759)
up with the Jews were involved in the planning and the attack.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:03.220)
And it's specifically the, capital V, capital J, the Jews, not like these people, not a
Unknown Speaker (00:17:11.779)
group of them, the entirety of Judaism.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:16.059)
Yeah, so we're fucked.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:18.339)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:19.339)
So Alex gets to a first guest here on the 22nd and it's a Bilderberg expert.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:25.779)
I remember five, six, seven, eight years ago on the radio, I'd talk about the Bilderberg
Unknown Speaker (00:17:29.940)
group and get calls from listeners.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:31.819)
I heard that's a code word for terrorism.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:35.299)
It doesn't exist.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:36.299)
You're insane.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:37.299)
I heard on the news, insane people believe this exists.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:40.420)
It didn't exist.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:42.940)
Well, it does exist and now it's public thanks to the work of folks out there like Tony Gosling
Unknown Speaker (00:17:50.619)
of Bilderberg.org is about to join us.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:53.359)
So I'd never heard of this dude.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:55.099)
Tony Gosling?
Unknown Speaker (00:17:56.099)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:17:57.099)
I wanted to learn a little bit more about him because he's not the Bilderberg expert
Unknown Speaker (00:17:59.740)
that I'm used to Alex having on.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:01.779)
Wasn't he in the notebook?
Unknown Speaker (00:18:02.779)
It's his brother.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:03.779)
Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:04.779)
When later time Alex Jones is trying to look into a Bilderberg story, he pretty much always
Unknown Speaker (00:18:10.259)
talks to big Jim Tucker.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:12.380)
And then in second place, if Jim's not available or had died by then, Alex would talk to Daniel
Unknown Speaker (00:18:17.220)
Estelen.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:18.299)
Tony Gosling's not a super relevant name in the periods that I've listened to of Alex's
Unknown Speaker (00:18:22.220)
show.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:23.339)
Tony runs a website called Bilderberg.org and I will say that this site pretty quickly
Unknown Speaker (00:18:28.380)
deteriorates from being about the Bilderberg group at all.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:32.380)
If you scroll down his homepage, you'll soon find a picture of Jesus as Che Guevara, which
Unknown Speaker (00:18:36.559)
is on a shirt that he sells.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:38.019)
Not good.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:39.019)
And then a reprinting of the Ten Commandments and the Lord's Prayer.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:42.299)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:43.299)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:44.299)
It's weirdly religiously centered for what appears to be a site about the Bilderberg
Unknown Speaker (00:18:46.900)
group, which if I'm not mistaken and based on this interview that I'm hearing on Alex's
Unknown Speaker (00:18:51.900)
show is supposed to be a political conspiracy.
Unknown Speaker (00:18:55.240)
Things really fall apart when you get to the section titled, quote, My Spiritual Beliefs.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:00.339)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:01.539)
This passage.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:04.400)
That should be on everybody's wall.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:08.380)
Things really fall apart when I say, here are my personal beliefs.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:12.700)
This passage stood out as not sounding great.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:15.420)
Quote, Many problems have been caused by some of the Jewish people's refusal to acknowledge
Unknown Speaker (00:19:20.059)
Jesus as the Messiah.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:21.579)
That does sound like the root cause of many problems.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:24.940)
Many Jews, for example, live in Old Testament Torah times, believing they're still God's
Unknown Speaker (00:19:29.119)
chosen people.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:30.539)
It seems clear to me that God cut off the Jewish hierarchy from his favor after they
Unknown Speaker (00:19:34.480)
pleaded successfully for the unjust death of his only son.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:37.539)
Why?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:38.539)
Why?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:39.539)
Where?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:40.539)
Where?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:41.539)
When?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:42.539)
Why?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:43.539)
In the Bible?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:44.539)
Do you mean the Bible where they wrote letters, the rest of the New Testament is writing letters
Unknown Speaker (00:19:47.640)
to Jews about Jesus being great?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:50.380)
There's a lot of conversation about who is or is not real Jews also on that site.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:57.180)
There we are.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:58.180)
It's a little convoluted and not good.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:00.500)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:01.500)
The website's also just weird.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:02.539)
If you scroll down a little bit further, you find a list of Tony's 30 top movies.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:06.859)
The Life of Brian.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:07.859)
What did you just say to me?
Unknown Speaker (00:20:08.859)
The Life of Brian weirdly came in at number 24.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:09.859)
How can the Life of Brian be on there?
Unknown Speaker (00:20:10.859)
He likes to have fun.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:11.859)
You know this satire of every...
Unknown Speaker (00:20:19.380)
My personal beliefs, my 24th favorite movie eviscerates how stupid they are.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:24.859)
Great.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:25.859)
So after that, there's a section about how great Bill Hicks was as a comedian.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:28.660)
I'm not kidding.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:29.660)
I'm not kidding.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:30.660)
I don't...
Unknown Speaker (00:20:31.660)
There's a big section about Bill Hicks.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:32.660)
No!
Unknown Speaker (00:20:33.660)
What is wrong with the humanity?
Unknown Speaker (00:20:36.019)
It's a really poorly laid out and confusing website.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:38.700)
And I don't know if it would even be helpful, even if you did assume that he had evidence
Unknown Speaker (00:20:42.960)
of something.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:43.960)
Listen, religion is the center of all of our problems in this life.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:48.099)
This guy is my favorite comedian.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:50.660)
Anyways, here are my personal beliefs.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:52.819)
Number four or five on his list was They Live.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:55.859)
Oh boy.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:57.500)
Well that one actually tracks.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:58.859)
I didn't recognize a lot of the names of the movies and I'm guessing some of them were
Unknown Speaker (00:21:02.619)
not good.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:03.619)
It'd be funny if they were all...
Unknown Speaker (00:21:04.819)
It was like They Live, The Life of Brian, and then a bunch of weird 70s art.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:09.619)
Like Harold and Maude is up there.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:11.380)
They shoot horses, don't they?
Unknown Speaker (00:21:13.339)
Everything Lee Remick has ever been in.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:14.819)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:15.819)
Like all of that stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:16.819)
Or like Lenny Riefenstahl.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:19.539)
Sure, sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:23.700)
This was...
Unknown Speaker (00:21:24.700)
I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:25.700)
I didn't read over everything, but it seems like this guy's a little bit unwell and he's
Unknown Speaker (00:21:31.059)
a bit defensive about his positions vis-à-vis Judaism.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:34.900)
He's defensive about his movies.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:39.140)
So welcome to Bilderberg.org Top 30 Movies.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:44.180)
Today... a lot of the stuff that he has to say about Bilderberg is all kind of the same
Unknown Speaker (00:21:49.059)
stuff you hear from just about any of these folks.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:52.619)
You know, just stray talk, powerful people are there, let's imagine what they're talking
Unknown Speaker (00:21:58.859)
about.
Unknown Speaker (00:21:59.859)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:00.859)
Although this guy did have a little bit of a fun twist on it, and that he seemed to be
Unknown Speaker (00:22:04.480)
kind of like a bird watcher for Bilderberg members, because he seemed to get really excited
Unknown Speaker (00:22:10.660)
when he was talking about how one day, one day...
Unknown Speaker (00:22:13.380)
He saw one in the wild.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:14.660)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:15.660)
One day during the Bilderberg conference, all the people, all the richies who were attending
Unknown Speaker (00:22:20.339)
the conference decided that they were going to go to the Palace of Versailles, and they
Unknown Speaker (00:22:23.619)
were going to just go tour around, and so he was like gawking at rich, powerful people.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:29.980)
He was really excited that David Rockefeller actually answered a couple questions from
Unknown Speaker (00:22:33.339)
people, and it didn't seem standoffish or mad.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:35.740)
It was like, I think you just enjoy this.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:40.059)
There's a really...
Unknown Speaker (00:22:41.059)
I don't see a conspiracy here, I think you like following around a powerful group of
Unknown Speaker (00:22:47.099)
people or something.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:48.099)
No, I feel like we're in a situation where the continuum is there's something, there's
Unknown Speaker (00:22:55.099)
a very thin line between avid hater and fanboy.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:00.980)
There's a very thin line between oh, I hate the Bilderberg group, and I'm going to follow
Unknown Speaker (00:23:05.339)
them everywhere they go and hope to catch a glimpse of them.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:08.019)
He seemed like he was on that line.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:09.900)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:10.900)
He seemed to be doing it a little bit more than a lot of the other folks, like the Tuckers
Unknown Speaker (00:23:14.059)
or Estillans, that seemed just to be either insane or full of hate.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:20.180)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:21.180)
But yeah, this guy, I don't know, here's just a clip of...
Unknown Speaker (00:23:26.380)
In his own words, let's hear what he has to say.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:28.980)
An interesting character, Bernhard, because he's both before and after he started the
Unknown Speaker (00:23:33.900)
Bilderberg, had some really disastrous things happen to him, which throw a lot of doubt
Unknown Speaker (00:23:39.500)
over his integrity.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:40.500)
First of all, his membership before the US entered World War II of the SS, the German
Unknown Speaker (00:23:51.019)
SS.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:52.019)
He then left Germany afterwards and married into the Dutch royal family, but he was in
Unknown Speaker (00:23:56.579)
Hitler's feared SS during the war.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:58.460)
This is the guy that started the group off, and the irony is, of course, that they will
Unknown Speaker (00:24:02.339)
tell us that one of the reasons for the group is to stop the next or to stop any other possible
Unknown Speaker (00:24:08.819)
Hitler surfacing in the future.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:10.660)
Now I would have thought one of the worst people to start an organization dedicated
Unknown Speaker (00:24:14.019)
to that task was someone who'd been in Hitler's SS.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:16.740)
It is true that for a brief time before the war, Prince Bernhard was a member of the Reiter
Unknown Speaker (00:24:21.140)
SS, the mounted division of the SS.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:24.099)
This is definitely not cool, and I'm not making any kind of an excuse for it, but it's usually
Unknown Speaker (00:24:29.180)
a good idea when you're looking at a historical figure like this to judge them based on the
Unknown Speaker (00:24:34.299)
measure of a person's actions as opposed to a tiny, not a tiny detail, but a specific
Unknown Speaker (00:24:40.920)
individual detail.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:42.819)
Bernhard clearly did not support the Nazis in World War II, and he actively fought against
Unknown Speaker (00:24:47.140)
them when Hitler invaded the Netherlands in 1940.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:50.339)
His track record is fairly clear, and he was fighting Hitler's forces before the US even
Unknown Speaker (00:24:54.660)
was.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:55.660)
This is an instance of something that's a true enough fact that's being used to create
Unknown Speaker (00:24:59.099)
a dishonest image in the listener's head.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:01.539)
The goal is to portray that Bernhard is somebody who fought alongside the Nazis in the war,
Unknown Speaker (00:25:06.099)
and is someone who's a part of this elite division of Hitler's organization, and that's
Unknown Speaker (00:25:09.619)
just not true.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:11.000)
There's more complexity to this than that.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:14.299)
Yeah, that's got Soros's dad written all over it in that, like, fine!
Unknown Speaker (00:25:20.299)
I get what, yes, your fundamental basic fact is correct, and by leaving out literally everything
Unknown Speaker (00:25:27.140)
else you can support your narrative, but that's not the only fact.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:31.299)
Yeah, and probably Prince Bernhard's a little bit less of a sympathetic figure than 14-year-old
Unknown Speaker (00:25:38.180)
George Soros, inasmuch as he was older, and he was a member of the writing SS, but still,
Unknown Speaker (00:25:47.980)
the totality of his actions during the war speak to somebody who was not on the side
Unknown Speaker (00:25:53.539)
of Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:54.539)
He's not on the side of the Nazis, and I think that at that point you can say, alright, this
Unknown Speaker (00:26:04.059)
was a blip on your, it's a stain on your history, but it's not something that should be deterministic
Unknown Speaker (00:26:10.119)
of your character.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:11.539)
And that's what this guy wants to present Bernhard as, because, you know, he hates the
Unknown Speaker (00:26:16.460)
Bilderberg group, and if one of the people who co-founded it can be just portrayed as,
Unknown Speaker (00:26:21.859)
you know, one of Hitler's higher-ups, then there you go.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:25.140)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:26.140)
No, it's one of the most annoying things, because you don't, like, I don't need help
Unknown Speaker (00:26:33.220)
being prejudiced against a prince.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:35.660)
Like I'm fine with that, I don't like royalty.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:39.900)
But you can't make me hate him based on bullshit, that's not fair.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:44.779)
Also I'd like to correct myself.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:45.779)
That's not fair.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:46.779)
His name is Bernhard, I kept saying Barnard.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:48.420)
I did hear Barnard, and I was like, ehhh.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:50.660)
I don't know why.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:51.660)
Yeah, no, I mean, I don't need help, I don't need help there, and you lying about him makes
Unknown Speaker (00:26:57.579)
me then have to defend him, which I don't want to do.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:00.539)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:01.539)
I don't want to defend a prince, fuck royalty.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:03.779)
No, it makes you need to, like, be like, well hold on a second, and then secondarily it
Unknown Speaker (00:27:10.099)
makes me very wary of whatever information you're putting out.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:15.680)
Whatever information you have about the Bilderberg group seems kind of sketchy, if this is the
Unknown Speaker (00:27:20.700)
level of accusation you're making.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:23.299)
If you can't get a basic detail contextually right, then why would I believe the rest of
Unknown Speaker (00:27:29.339)
what you have to say?
Unknown Speaker (00:27:30.339)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:31.339)
Anyway, the rest of this is just, you know, standard Bilderberg conspiracy nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:35.500)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:36.500)
Gossip.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:37.500)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:38.500)
And bird watching of rich people.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:40.259)
You know, can't argue with a good bird watching.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:43.500)
So Alex gets back to calls, and this caller is sort of relevant to my interests, and that
Unknown Speaker (00:27:49.460)
is of course whether or not Alex was fighting the literal devil in 2003.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:55.599)
This gives us a little hint, maybe?
Unknown Speaker (00:27:58.460)
Wyatt Maryland.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:59.460)
Wyatt, you're on the air.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:00.460)
Go ahead, sir.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:01.460)
Good afternoon, Alex.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:02.460)
How you doing?
Unknown Speaker (00:28:03.460)
Good, good.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:04.460)
Boy, there's so much to talk about, and there's so little time, but all I can say is the demons
Unknown Speaker (00:28:10.700)
are loose, and they're out, and they're doing the work.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:15.220)
I mean, Alex doesn't have a direct response to that, but they're loose.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:19.420)
Demons are loose.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:20.420)
Demons are loose.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:21.420)
I don't know what happened, but demons got loose.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:24.819)
Who let the demons out?
Unknown Speaker (00:28:26.500)
We had, listen, we had them in a corral in northwestern Montana.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:31.640)
We had kept all the demons there.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:33.240)
That's how we had developed this great nation of ours, and somebody tripped, ruined the
Unknown Speaker (00:28:37.920)
summoning circle, and now the demons are loose.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:40.220)
There's just nothing to do.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:41.500)
Someone's gotta get a lasso.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:44.839)
We gotta drive in these here demons.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:47.220)
I think we need the regulators.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:48.900)
I think Nate Dogg and Warren G need to mount up R.I.P.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:53.680)
I think that this is an indication of some of the conversation that is clearly just pretty
Unknown Speaker (00:29:00.819)
organic and natural on Alex's show at this time, talking about demons being loose and
Unknown Speaker (00:29:05.900)
what have you, but it's still kind of a nebulous picture for me.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:11.460)
I'm leaning more towards there being a real literalist religious vibe going on.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:18.819)
I'm leaning closer to that, but I also don't have merely the amount of information that
Unknown Speaker (00:29:23.900)
we do from the present that Alex legit thinks the shoot devil is there and he's pulling
Unknown Speaker (00:29:31.420)
the strings of the enemies.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:35.579)
This guy sounds like he definitely believes that the literal demons are loose.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:39.819)
This dude.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:40.819)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:41.819)
They're doing work.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:42.900)
You could still see that as a metaphor, or if you're Alex and you're responding to that,
Unknown Speaker (00:29:48.519)
you could see that as a metaphor for the demonic impulses of the elite are given free reign
Unknown Speaker (00:29:55.059)
now, no longer having to be corralled or moderated.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:58.980)
Yeah, who knows?
Unknown Speaker (00:30:00.700)
So Alex gets a lot of mileage out of people pretending that he's been right about so many
Unknown Speaker (00:30:06.500)
things, about so many things.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:09.900)
For 27 years.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:11.220)
He's righter than he is wrong, and he's not.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:13.539)
But one of the things that I thought was really fun about this next clip is he makes a bunch
Unknown Speaker (00:30:16.779)
of predictions about gun grabbing and stuff and everything he says is wrong.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:22.900)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:23.900)
They're going to reauthorize Clinton's gun ban and they're going to expand it radically.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:29.619)
So they're going to add a semiautomatic shotgun ban.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:33.059)
That's the NRA telling you that they're going to sign S 22, which is Patriot act two in
Unknown Speaker (00:30:37.579)
the Senate, full of gun registration, shutting down the gun shows, national ballistics databases,
Unknown Speaker (00:30:43.319)
the most gun control, the most hardcore draconian stuff we've ever seen.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:48.819)
And the average conservative out there has no idea because the neo cons like rush Limbaugh,
Unknown Speaker (00:30:53.859)
Neil boards, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity will not tell them.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:58.220)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:59.220)
He likes a lot of those people.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:00.220)
Now.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:01.220)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:02.220)
Loves them.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:03.220)
All those predictions are wrong.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:04.220)
I was, I was trying to keep track of him.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:05.220)
I wrote, Nope, Nope, Nope.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:09.140)
And also Nope.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:10.140)
Nope.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:11.140)
None of those happened.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:12.140)
Yes, that is true.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:13.140)
Um, so yeah, I mean, he's right.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:15.859)
Most of the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:16.859)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:17.859)
Anyway, this next clip, Alex goes back to calls and this dude, I tried to trace this
Unknown Speaker (00:31:23.579)
down.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:24.579)
I got very little on this, but this, this was, I enjoyed this is going to be a big swing.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:29.579)
Hmm.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:30.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:31.579)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:32.579)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:33.579)
Tom and Texas.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:34.579)
You're on the air.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:35.579)
Go ahead, sir.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:36.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:37.579)
You're on the air.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:38.579)
Go ahead.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:39.579)
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:40.579)
I, I first informed, uh, Tex Mars in, uh, 1988 about the, uh, the church, the hidden
Unknown Speaker (00:31:47.380)
church over there on highway six, uh, about, uh, as an area and as a moment, I was in work
Unknown Speaker (00:31:54.460)
with you all movies world, sir, I really don't understand what you're saying or have to give
Unknown Speaker (00:31:57.700)
us some background.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:58.700)
I do not understand this and I want to know, tell me about the hidden church on route six.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:05.900)
Well, thankfully Alex does ask for clarification and here it comes.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:09.140)
Okay, the background is, uh, I went to this church that we moved pews out of and the old
Unknown Speaker (00:32:15.259)
man walked out cussing like a sailor cause we got there late.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:18.220)
He said, you realize who's church this is?
Unknown Speaker (00:32:20.460)
I said, no.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:21.460)
He said, this is George Bush's church, but we walked in and had a big swatch to go hanging
Unknown Speaker (00:32:25.900)
down and up above the pulpit and I said, well, okay, well tell me all about, he has the Christian
Unknown Speaker (00:32:33.000)
symbol up there, you said, and it's, and he showed me all the pictures in the offices
Unknown Speaker (00:32:36.980)
of the Bush family.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:39.500)
So about, I guess two weeks later, I went and told Tex Mars about it at a convention
Unknown Speaker (00:32:45.140)
at the hobby airport.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:46.480)
So first of all, this dude worked for a moving company and he was called to show up at a
Unknown Speaker (00:32:50.420)
backwards hidden church to remove pews, but somehow the only person there hadn't called
Unknown Speaker (00:32:54.980)
them to move the furniture and was confused that they were there.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:57.579)
Correct.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:58.579)
This is a little fishy.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:59.579)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:00.579)
My second issue is that this was in 1988.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:02.099)
So at this point, George H.W. Bush was coming to the end of his second term as vice president
Unknown Speaker (00:33:06.380)
and was about to win the 1988 election for president.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:09.019)
He still flew back to Texas every Sunday to go to the hidden church on Route 6, everybody
Unknown Speaker (00:33:13.819)
knows that.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:14.819)
George W. Bush hadn't even become Texas governor yet and honestly, he hadn't even bought the
Unknown Speaker (00:33:19.099)
Texas Rangers at this point.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:21.099)
I don't see how the either, it would be in either of their interests to be running a
Unknown Speaker (00:33:24.420)
secret Nazi church in the middle of Texas when they were spending most of their time
Unknown Speaker (00:33:28.180)
at this point in DC and campaigning.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:31.779)
I am the vice president of the United States.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:35.500)
And have been for years.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:36.619)
One of the most looked at, observed, and known where a person is at all times.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:43.420)
People you can be.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:44.420)
Almost like there's a schedule that's public.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:46.220)
That's public.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:47.619)
Every day.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:49.480)
But on Sundays, flies back to Texas, heads to the hidden Nazi church.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:54.460)
No one knows about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:56.380)
Except for this guy, the U-Haul mover who accidentally showed up there or something.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:00.740)
And there are hidden pictures of the, okay, okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:04.180)
So you're telling me, you're telling me that this moving company shows up, the guy is cussing
Unknown Speaker (00:34:10.820)
like a sailor, says, do you know whose church this is?
Unknown Speaker (00:34:13.300)
This is the Bush's church.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:14.760)
And then that aggressive attitude wipes away and he's like, come on back into the office.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:20.159)
Let me show you George Bush and the Nazis.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:21.900)
And no one will ever find these pictures despite the fact that this guy seems willing to show
Unknown Speaker (00:34:26.539)
them to literally anybody who walks in.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:28.900)
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:29.900)
He seems, seems to be real neighborly.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:32.420)
Hey, hey, this is the hidden church on route six.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:38.380)
Come on in.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:39.380)
Let me show you the vice president's Nazi memorabilia.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:41.500)
Well, you know, I work for George H.W. Bush and he specifically told me when he left that
Unknown Speaker (00:34:46.980)
while I was watching over the place, I was to tell everybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:50.420)
Let everybody know.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:52.960)
Be sure you show the pictures of me and my family.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:55.940)
Yes, I want this information getting out.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:59.099)
That's why I go to this hidden church.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:01.340)
Ridiculous.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:02.460)
Also, Tex Mars is a extreme anti-Semite.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:07.659)
So yeah, it's not good that this guy felt like, hey, first person I got to get this
Unknown Speaker (00:35:11.400)
information to.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:12.400)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:13.400)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:14.400)
Not good.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:15.400)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:16.400)
So Alex wants to know where this church is.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:17.400)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:18.400)
Because that is an important question.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:19.400)
Now, where is this church, sir?
Unknown Speaker (00:35:21.400)
That was the problem.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:23.260)
Now, when I told Tex Mars, he wrote about me in his book, Hidden Days of the Rainbow.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:28.699)
I'm the one that informed him about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:30.019)
He didn't know nothing about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:32.179)
And he found it to be true.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:34.820)
Where is this church, sir?
Unknown Speaker (00:35:35.820)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:36.820)
It was on Highway 6.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:37.820)
Best I can remember.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:38.820)
This is in 88.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:39.820)
I'll have to do some more investigation.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:41.820)
Outside where?
Unknown Speaker (00:35:42.820)
Right outside.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:43.820)
It's close to, I'd say going out past Sugar Land.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:49.340)
Outside Houston.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:50.340)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:51.340)
It's on the east side of Houston.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:53.340)
I mean, the west side of Houston.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:55.619)
Look, man, if you find the vice president's Nazi church, you will forget.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:59.860)
Just know where the vice president's Nazi church is.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:02.860)
You will drive people by.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:04.780)
It's pretty big.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:05.780)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:06.780)
It's a pretty big thing.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:07.780)
No, I would find ways.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:10.460)
I would be like, hey, look, the main highway has been torn down.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:14.440)
We're going to have to take the long way through Highway 6.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:17.820)
Oh, by the way, I met George Bush's Nazi pastor and he's got pictures of George Bush with
Unknown Speaker (00:36:24.300)
the Nazi bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:25.300)
I find it difficult to believe that if you did find something like this, you wouldn't
Unknown Speaker (00:36:29.900)
go back yourself.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:31.099)
All the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:32.099)
Not all the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:33.099)
Not all the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:34.099)
But at least you'd go back and be like, did I really see what I thought I saw?
Unknown Speaker (00:36:37.099)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:38.099)
No, this is Brigadoon.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:39.420)
It's outrageous.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:40.420)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:41.420)
So anyway, this church, I want to ask you how you're picturing this.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:47.099)
How big is it?
Unknown Speaker (00:36:48.179)
What are you imagining?
Unknown Speaker (00:36:50.440)
Give me some physical attributes that you're-
Unknown Speaker (00:36:52.739)
All right, I see it seating maybe 60 to 80 people.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:57.780)
There are about-
Unknown Speaker (00:36:58.780)
So it's kind of a smaller congregation.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:00.260)
Kind of a smaller congregation.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:01.900)
There's two rows of pews on either side with a walkway there.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:05.260)
There's a pulpit and directly behind it hanging is a, let's call it 20 foot tall Nazi flag
Unknown Speaker (00:37:11.940)
based on his description.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:13.460)
Do you think that it's a place that's in good repair?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:17.219)
Do you think it's something that's dilapidated?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:19.659)
What are your feelings on this?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:20.659)
I think it has to have that feel of being absurdly clean for the area that it's in.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:26.539)
Like the walls are painted absurdly white, almost as if they're immune to the nature
Unknown Speaker (00:37:32.739)
around them.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:33.739)
So it's like an OR, like an operating room in the middle of a swamp.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:37.380)
Yes, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:38.579)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:39.579)
That is an interesting picture and I think that's probably about what I thought.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:42.739)
We're both wrong.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:43.739)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:44.739)
How many people would you say the church would see?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:46.340)
7,000.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:47.340)
Probably at least 800 at the least.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:52.260)
That's a lot.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:53.260)
It's real organized.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:54.260)
That's a lot of people who know George Bush is a Nazi.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:56.260)
I mean, the whole family was in there, they had the Bushes, the kids, the whole nine yards
Unknown Speaker (00:38:02.260)
in there.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:03.260)
He says, I said, well, I can't believe this is Bushes.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:06.940)
He said, man, this is the God, God, this is the true church of God here.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:11.179)
And he said it was a branch from the Abyscapelian.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:13.460)
I do remember him saying that, a branch away from the Abyscapelian.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:19.780)
Sir, I appreciate your call, Tom, appreciate it.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:24.019)
But look, that is not how I know the global is to operate.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:28.059)
It's an armored fortress at the Skull and Bones tomb and that kind of stuff is in there.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:32.139)
That's confirmed.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:33.139)
It's guarded at Bohemian Grove and there is that type of stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:38.179)
I don't know that story, sir.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:39.420)
I really, I don't like to speculate on, so, you know, I'm not saying you're a liar.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:45.579)
It just, it just doesn't, doesn't fit.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:47.019)
It fits with some stuff but not in other areas.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:49.900)
I'm so proud of Alex.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:52.619)
That's one of the few points that I've ever heard him be like, I can't accept this.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:57.219)
Yeah, that is, that is intense.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:59.139)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:00.139)
How great would it be to be like, I'm on the phone with the person who found George W. Bush's
Unknown Speaker (00:39:03.940)
Nazi church.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:04.940)
And he's like, I can't make this fit.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:07.980)
This is no good.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:08.980)
No, sir.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:09.980)
Look, this just doesn't match.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:10.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:11.980)
Sorry.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:12.980)
I'm not calling you a liar, but I don't know about this.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:15.059)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:16.059)
That's, that's a, that is a level of pushback I rarely see from him.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:20.380)
That's true.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:21.380)
But I mean, at the same time, his pushback is not based around like, that's ridiculous
Unknown Speaker (00:39:26.619)
so much as it is like, okay, I get you think there's a Nazi base on the moon, but it's
Unknown Speaker (00:39:32.360)
on Mars.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:33.360)
Duh.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:34.360)
I can't accept this Nazi base on the moon.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:36.900)
Whatever my Nazi base is on Mars, man.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:39.519)
I have to actually push back on what you're saying because I think that that's not fair.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:43.780)
I think that what Alex is saying, the reason that he's, he's pushing back on this guy is
Unknown Speaker (00:39:47.940)
because he's saying there are little Nazi enclaves and, and, and like worship centers
Unknown Speaker (00:39:53.699)
or whatever.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:54.699)
Yeah, of course.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:55.699)
But they're heavily armed.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:56.699)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:57.699)
That's like, you, you can't get into the skull and bones area where there's the big Nazi
Unknown Speaker (00:40:01.420)
flag.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:02.420)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:03.420)
There's not going to be one out in the middle of like at this church that you get welcomed
Unknown Speaker (00:40:05.860)
into.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:06.860)
And it's not, it's not that it's like, okay, it's on the moon or on Mars.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:11.380)
It's the context surrounding this doesn't make sense.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:14.820)
I understand.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:15.820)
This would not be that easy to accidentally stumble into.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:19.780)
I broke into Bohemian Grove.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:21.760)
That's how I know their things.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:23.480)
You didn't break into this church.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:24.980)
No, you were welcomed in by a, and that would never happen, a surprisingly neighborly Nazi.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:31.059)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:32.059)
Because his narratives require that it's hard to find these secrets.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:37.500)
True.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:38.500)
True.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:39.500)
And so that's why he's pushing back.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:40.500)
But I still think that it's at least, I mean, functionally, it serves the same purpose as
Unknown Speaker (00:40:44.820)
saying that this is ridiculous.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:46.139)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:47.139)
No, that's, that's definitely true.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:48.360)
That's definitely true.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:49.360)
And he, I mean, I assume it would feel like a bit of a personal attack on his manhood
Unknown Speaker (00:40:54.519)
if you just got to get secrets by walking into places.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:58.840)
And then potentially bigger scoop than Bohemian Grove.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:02.179)
Exactly.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:03.179)
Just by accidentally showing up with a U-Haul truck.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:05.980)
I think it would just be so much easier to be like, really seats 800, huh?
Unknown Speaker (00:41:09.780)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:10.780)
So there's, there's a, what, 768 people who know that the entire Bush family is Nazis?
Unknown Speaker (00:41:17.099)
No, no, no.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:18.099)
Here's what you don't know.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:19.099)
There's 800 Bush family members.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:21.420)
Now that might as well be your, your angle on it.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:24.300)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:25.300)
It's the only Bush church there's ever been.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:27.860)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:28.860)
So here's, here's our last clip from the 22nd.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:32.860)
Alex is talking about the situation in Iraq, and he's saying that, about to confiscate
Unknown Speaker (00:41:38.179)
weapons from people.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:40.659)
Allies to begin seizing weapons from most Iraqis.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:43.739)
Iraqi citizens will be required to turn over automatic weapons and heavy weapons under
Unknown Speaker (00:41:47.420)
a proclamation that allied authorities plan to issue this week.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:51.059)
Allied officials of the day, the aim of the proclamation is to help stabilize Iraq by
Unknown Speaker (00:41:54.900)
confiscating a huge supply of AK-47 machine guns, buck repelled grenades, and other weapons
Unknown Speaker (00:41:59.179)
that are used by criminal gangs, paramilitary groups, and remnants of the Saddam Hussein's
Unknown Speaker (00:42:02.539)
government.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:03.539)
Well, the remnants of Saddam Hussein's government, we've got the names, the Ba'ath Party's being
Unknown Speaker (00:42:08.179)
put back into control.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:09.679)
So Alex still thinks on the 22nd of May that the Ba'ath Party is being put back into power
Unknown Speaker (00:42:17.059)
and it's all a CIA operation.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:19.539)
Isn't he reading about how they're confiscating the Ba'ath Party's weapons?
Unknown Speaker (00:42:23.139)
Well, I mean, I think that, I have to assume that he just thinks that that's window dressing
Unknown Speaker (00:42:31.300)
or cover or something.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:32.300)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:33.300)
That way people won't suspect that the Ba'ath Party is still running things.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:36.860)
Right, right.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:37.860)
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:38.860)
So I still think that we have not reached a point where this is interesting.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:43.260)
It's still sort of rising, it's crescendoing reality, and Alex just...
Unknown Speaker (00:42:49.300)
They're on a collision course.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:50.300)
Head on.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:51.300)
Head on collision.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:52.300)
Two trains traveling directly at each other.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:54.820)
And I'm very interested to see how that, how Alex tries to veer around that, that looming
Unknown Speaker (00:43:01.699)
accident.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:02.699)
It does have the feel of two trains riding straight towards each other and one train
Unknown Speaker (00:43:07.340)
is like, ooh, I can't hit reality, so I'm going to turn off, and then it hits a bus.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:13.219)
You're like, way to go.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:14.719)
So a large portion of this episode on the 23rd is Alex talking to this Belgian doctor,
Unknown Speaker (00:43:21.780)
Dr. Van Martyr.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:22.780)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:23.780)
Mortyr?
Unknown Speaker (00:43:24.780)
Martyr?
Unknown Speaker (00:43:25.780)
I'm not entirely sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:26.780)
That's a good name.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:27.780)
He's a dude who witnessed crimes being committed by our military against Iraqi civilians, and
Unknown Speaker (00:43:32.099)
there's talk of bringing charges against military leaders in foreign courts.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:37.860)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:38.860)
That would be nice.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:39.860)
I have little problem with this interview as a whole.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:42.820)
I think that this guy is bringing up some fine points, but also it's not a very good
Unknown Speaker (00:43:48.420)
interview.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:49.420)
I think I don't think that Alex really gets to too many of the more important issues.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:55.460)
It seems like he's doing a bit of grandstanding and what have you, and I just think that this
Unknown Speaker (00:44:00.539)
subject matter is covered better by almost anybody else.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:04.619)
Even in 2003, there were much better commentators that you could find discussing human rights
Unknown Speaker (00:44:11.139)
abuses on the part of our military in Iraq, but at the same time, I'm not going to sit
Unknown Speaker (00:44:16.659)
and nitpick, because it's mostly this dude talking, and his perspective is like, he saw
Unknown Speaker (00:44:23.440)
some US soldiers shooting at an ambulance, and like, yeah, that sucks.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:28.539)
Yeah, that's a war crime.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:31.260)
So would you say that this interview is Alex letting somebody give legitimate criticisms
Unknown Speaker (00:44:36.699)
of the US military in order for him to be like, see, the military and the government
Unknown Speaker (00:44:43.739)
is all evil, despite not actually giving a shit about the war crimes, and just kind of
Unknown Speaker (00:44:47.739)
exploiting that the government is evil?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:49.860)
Somewhat, and then also using it to translate into, like, they're going to start a police
Unknown Speaker (00:44:54.719)
state here.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:55.719)
Sure, sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:56.719)
And so I don't think that his use of this stuff is great, but I also think, like...
Unknown Speaker (00:45:03.980)
Yeah, the US commits war crimes.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:06.119)
We got it.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:07.119)
Yeah, it's...
Unknown Speaker (00:45:08.119)
We should do something about it now, soon.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:09.579)
It's hard to lose...
Unknown Speaker (00:45:10.579)
In 2003.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:12.119)
It's really weird to me.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:13.440)
It's really weird to remember 2003 and hear that Alex was having a Belgian doctor on to
Unknown Speaker (00:45:21.260)
reveal US war crimes and was not...
Unknown Speaker (00:45:23.820)
Like, because I remember how bloodthirsty everybody was.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:28.579)
Everybody was so fucking bloodthirsty.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:31.699)
If you went on TV and said like, hey, the American government is committing war crimes,
Unknown Speaker (00:45:36.500)
there would be another talking head being like, that's the cost of war, you know?
Unknown Speaker (00:45:41.420)
And people would agree, yes, sometimes you have to commit war crimes.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:45.820)
To fucking have to live in a world where unfortunately, despite his exploitative nature, Alex was
Unknown Speaker (00:45:52.980)
one of the few people putting on an agreement fest about the US committing war crimes is
Unknown Speaker (00:45:59.179)
wild.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:00.179)
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:01.179)
It is.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:02.179)
Yeah, it is.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:03.179)
Sorry, I just needed to observe that.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:04.179)
That just feels like really strange to live in both the present and the past at the same
Unknown Speaker (00:46:08.739)
time.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:09.739)
And it's worth pointing out, I don't think it's worth discussing this interview like
Unknown Speaker (00:46:14.139)
actual clips of it, but it is worth bringing up that that is a reality.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:20.219)
And again, I think you can say hooray to an extent to him for that.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:28.059)
But there's still other voices that exist that were talking about these things, and
Unknown Speaker (00:46:33.260)
they weren't doing things like the other things that Alex is doing.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:39.059)
And one of those things is hanging out with fucking shitheads and talking about Bilderberg.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:43.860)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:44.860)
I mean, just in the context of that, it is kind of something that I think about a lot
Unknown Speaker (00:46:49.739)
just because that's part of how Alex got to where he got to, is that there were shit tons
Unknown Speaker (00:46:57.420)
of war crimes going on, and because this is correct, you are sucked into the rest of his
Unknown Speaker (00:47:04.719)
bullshit until he just gets rid of even any pretense of giving a shit about war crimes,
Unknown Speaker (00:47:11.159)
and then you're trapped in this place of, neither do I, you know?
Unknown Speaker (00:47:15.679)
It's weird.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:16.679)
Yeah, it is weird.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:18.820)
And the things that he cares about more aren't those things.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:22.159)
They aren't...
Unknown Speaker (00:47:23.159)
Exactly.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:24.159)
They aren't issues that he cares about for the sake of them.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:27.539)
He cares about them as a means.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:29.860)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:30.860)
And it's an important thing to point out that one of the big reasons that we are here where
Unknown Speaker (00:47:35.920)
propagandists can destroy everything is that cyclical nature between a corrupt war crime
Unknown Speaker (00:47:43.300)
committing government and a propaganda outlet who's creating that like, yeah, you can't
Unknown Speaker (00:47:49.119)
trust these war crime committing people for good reasons until it spirals out of control,
Unknown Speaker (00:47:53.820)
and now you can't trust anybody or anything.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:56.980)
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:58.159)
I got lost on a tangent there.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:00.699)
Apologies.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:01.699)
Apologies.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:02.699)
No worries.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:03.699)
So one of the things that Alex does care more about, one of the things that's really consistent,
Unknown Speaker (00:48:06.900)
like I said, is that Bilderberg shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:09.139)
And so he had that guy, Tony Gosling, on the 22nd talk about Bilderberg, and if you go
Unknown Speaker (00:48:16.579)
check out his website, he has some iffy opinions.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:19.179)
I would like Alex to put his top 30 movies on the Info Wars website.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:22.579)
I don't.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:23.579)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:24.579)
I think it would all just be...
Unknown Speaker (00:48:25.940)
Oblivion 1 through 30.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:28.139)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:29.139)
Yeah, Life's a Movie, man.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:31.940)
So he has another expert on the 23rd, and that's big Jim Tucker, baby.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:35.539)
Well, I spent 20 years with the establishment press, with Washington Daily News, Akron,
Unknown Speaker (00:48:42.900)
Beacon, Journal, Richmond Times, This Statch, other newspapers, until 1975 when I was being
Unknown Speaker (00:48:49.820)
interviewed by Willis Carter at Liberty Lobby for the position of editor of a newspaper
Unknown Speaker (00:48:55.300)
he was getting ready to create called The Spotlight.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:58.179)
He asked me what I thought about Bilderberg, and I said, who are they, and he gave me a
Unknown Speaker (00:49:02.219)
brief description.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:03.219)
I said, that's impossible.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:04.219)
I've been with newspapers all my life.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:06.739)
Such a group could not exist without me knowing.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:09.139)
Willis Cardo is a Nazi and white supremacist.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:11.960)
The Spectator was a paper whose editorial position was anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:16.780)
Jim Tucker was the editor of that paper.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:19.500)
In case you've forgotten since we talked about him in our Endgame coverage, here's one of
Unknown Speaker (00:49:23.239)
Willis Cardo's famous quotes.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:25.340)
Quote, if Satan himself, with all of his superhuman genius and diabolical ingenuity at his command,
Unknown Speaker (00:49:31.059)
had tried to create a permanent disintegration and force for the destruction of the nations,
Unknown Speaker (00:49:35.900)
he could have done no better than invent the Jews.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:39.780)
Describing his motivation to start The Spotlight, the ADL says in a bio of Cardo, quote, Cardo's
Unknown Speaker (00:49:44.659)
chief aim was always to mobilize opinion against Jews.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:48.639)
Liberty Lobby was his chief instrument to bridge right-wing constituencies.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:52.219)
Hard-right or paramilitary libertarians, conspiratorial anti-communists, racists by inflaming their
Unknown Speaker (00:49:57.780)
anti-government and nativist fears and identifying Jews as the country's chief threat.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:02.980)
Willis Cardo is a bigot who wanted to sway public opinion against Jews with his media
Unknown Speaker (00:50:06.900)
entities.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:07.900)
And Jim Tucker worked for his big media entity from its beginning in 1975 until they folded
Unknown Speaker (00:50:12.940)
in 2001.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:14.719)
Fuck him and fuck whatever he has to say about Bilderberg.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:18.019)
It's even more insulting that he didn't know about them until Willis Cardo told him about
Unknown Speaker (00:50:23.099)
them.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:24.099)
God damn.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:25.099)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:26.099)
One of the worst.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:27.219)
Fuck Jim Tucker.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:28.219)
Yeah, it makes you want to invent a bow and arrow that can shoot arrows into the past.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:34.139)
One of the things that's really funny to me though is like, Alex is like, oh yeah, Jim
Unknown Speaker (00:50:37.460)
Tucker, you know, you climb fences and get in there.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:40.940)
He's a real intrepid journalist.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:42.219)
And then like you look at the videos of Jim Tucker and he's always drunk and smoking at
Unknown Speaker (00:50:47.460)
cigarettes.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:48.460)
I was going to say, yeah, this is not a man, he's the guy who was wearing the hat all the
Unknown Speaker (00:50:52.659)
time too.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:53.659)
I was like, that is not a man who can jump a fence without severely injuring himself.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:59.739)
He seems like he's exhausted reading a paper.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:04.179)
Or at the very least continuing to breathe.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:06.820)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:07.820)
So anyway, Alex talks to Jim Tucker and it's all just the same shit except without the
Unknown Speaker (00:51:12.940)
excitement at seeing David Rockefeller, the Tony Gosling guy.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:16.980)
We don't have the fanboy moment.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:18.739)
But one of the things that I think is worth pointing out about both of these interviews
Unknown Speaker (00:51:23.139)
is that Jim Tucker is somebody who I don't know and I don't care what his personal positions
Unknown Speaker (00:51:30.860)
are.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:31.860)
He was the editor of a fucking white supremacist Holocaust denial paper for 25 years.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:39.539)
And Tony Gosling has a lot of questions about who is or is not Jewish and thinks a lot of
Unknown Speaker (00:51:43.780)
the problems in the world come from Jews not accepting Jesus as the Messiah.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:47.639)
Seems like it.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:49.059)
You wouldn't know that from listening to their interviews.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:52.380)
You wouldn't know that.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:53.739)
You would think that these guys are concerned about politics and really powerful people
Unknown Speaker (00:51:59.519)
getting together and talking behind closed doors.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:02.239)
You would think that, hey, these are just guys who have a political position that maybe
Unknown Speaker (00:52:07.980)
is anathema with what the media wants to report.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:12.159)
You wouldn't know that maybe a lot of antisemitism is what drives.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:17.260)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:18.260)
You know, a lot of people don't sympathize with Nazis as much.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:26.179)
But what you got to understand is you used to be able to just tell people that you hated
Unknown Speaker (00:52:31.019)
the Jews all the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:32.780)
And now you have to hide behind all of these things, you know, like that's hard.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:37.260)
Let's just think about the Nazis for a second.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:39.519)
Now they can't even say openly on the radio that everyone should kill the Jews because
Unknown Speaker (00:52:45.960)
it's their fault.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:47.059)
It's brutal.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:48.059)
Poor Willis.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:49.059)
Poor Willis.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:50.059)
Anyway, we go to the 27th because most of this show is just that interview with Jim
Unknown Speaker (00:52:54.579)
Tucker and then the interview with the Belgian doctor.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:58.059)
And like I said, the discussion of mistreatment of Iraqis and all that is fine and it's good.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:06.420)
It's something that there was probably, I don't even know if probably is the right word,
Unknown Speaker (00:53:11.500)
I would say definitely, there should have been more space for in public conversation.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:18.019)
But one of the reasons that I find it kind of not that interesting or not that relevant
Unknown Speaker (00:53:24.920)
to give Alex too much of a pat on the head about it is he takes these stories and he
Unknown Speaker (00:53:31.000)
discusses or reads headlines about mistreatment of people in Iraq, the civilians, and then
Unknown Speaker (00:53:37.380)
he just makes it about himself and the United States.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:40.739)
Naturally.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:41.739)
This is so horrible and it's only going to get worse.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:45.539)
And MSNBC reported before the war plans for reeducation centers.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:53.500)
Marine centers, movie screens, blaring propaganda, machine gun nests, everything.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:01.380)
This is so embarrassing.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:03.980)
But again, Europe controls America, is using us as the bad cop right now, they own our
Unknown Speaker (00:54:08.820)
full reserve, they've ordered the dollar to be imploded.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:12.380)
So again, none of that came to pass here as he's suggesting.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:18.179)
He's covering here, this is on the 27th now, we've jumped to that Tuesday, and he's covering
Unknown Speaker (00:54:23.300)
conversation about Guantanamo, about the possibility of military tribunals taking place there.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:29.780)
And now he's saying that they had plans before the war for here in America to have these
Unknown Speaker (00:54:36.099)
detention centers and machine gun nests.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:39.860)
It's all the conversation about the wrongs of the war exist in order to facilitate his
Unknown Speaker (00:54:48.340)
narratives about his fears about what's going to happen here.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:51.860)
It's not on its own merits.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:53.780)
The people there, their pain and what's being done isn't wrong because it's wrong.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:59.659)
And I have a difficulty with that.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:01.780)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:02.780)
I mean, you know, it's tough.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:05.199)
The good thing is that, if I recall correctly, in 2008, Obama fulfilled his campaign promise
Unknown Speaker (00:55:13.079)
to close Guantanamo Bay, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:55:15.260)
That was like one of the first things he did.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:18.820)
But Dan, I'm...
Unknown Speaker (00:55:21.980)
So Alex goes to calls, and one of the things that he's been pretty upset about is seat
Unknown Speaker (00:55:27.619)
belt checks.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:31.539)
I really, really don't know.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:36.059)
He's not a fan of click it or tick it.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:41.940)
The devil with all of his might is arrayed against us, and I can't stand a $70 ticket.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:50.659)
So he's talking here, another instance of him being totally right about his predictions
Unknown Speaker (00:55:56.699)
of what would...
Unknown Speaker (00:55:57.699)
So the seat belt checks.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:59.139)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:00.139)
It's going to get out of control.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:01.139)
It's going to get out of control.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:02.139)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:03.139)
It was, we then learned the name of it.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:04.139)
It was the National Seat Belt Use Initiative funded by Clinton to the tune of over $4 billion
Unknown Speaker (00:56:10.159)
a year.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:12.619)
Started at 2.4, and then it phased in over to $4 billion a year.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:15.619)
Bush is funding it.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:17.219)
It's going to build internal checkpoints that will also serve as toll booths to fund it.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:23.840)
It will be the equivalent of airport screening.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:26.139)
You'll be harassed.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:27.139)
You'll be searched.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:28.260)
That's why they don't care if you refuse to fly.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:29.940)
You're going to go through it at the checkpoints, and it says, citizens will wear gray uniforms,
Unknown Speaker (00:56:36.340)
part three of the four-part plan.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:38.380)
Citizens will wear gray uniforms.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:40.440)
That will be a national draft, compulsory draft.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:42.659)
You will have to serve in Homeland Security.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:44.900)
It will be high school students to be able to graduate.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:47.420)
They will be searching you at checkpoints.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:49.659)
The Philadelphia Inquirer reported last year that the kids are training with M-16s.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:54.579)
They're training in warrant service, checkpoints, fugitive apprehension, building clearing.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:00.619)
It is going to be throngs of power-tripping citizens with submachine guns.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:07.739)
It's a nightmare world, sir.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:08.739)
How does it sound to you?
Unknown Speaker (00:57:09.739)
I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:10.739)
I don't think this happened.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:11.739)
But, you know, one of the things that's wild is, like, you go back to 2003, and the world
Unknown Speaker (00:57:21.099)
was so, like, topsy-turvy because of the aftermath of 9-11 and the Iraq war that I think a lot
Unknown Speaker (00:57:28.500)
of people probably could hear something like that and be like, fuck, I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:32.420)
Maybe.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:33.420)
I don't know, I mean, the only thing that, like, the main argument I would have against
Unknown Speaker (00:57:37.900)
that is just, like, that seems like biting off more than the government can chew, you
Unknown Speaker (00:57:42.980)
know?
Unknown Speaker (00:57:43.980)
Like, there's not the infrastructure in place to get everybody to wear gray uniforms.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:47.340)
That's going to take a monumental effort of manufacturing.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:50.820)
I think he was talking about the conscripted youths wearing gray uniforms.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:54.860)
All right.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:55.860)
Well, still, you've got to outfit all these kids with submachine guns.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:59.980)
That's going to be noticed.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:00.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:01.980)
The gun manufacturers and the gun sellers are all used to exploiting fears about the
Unknown Speaker (00:58:08.019)
people having too many, you know, like, I don't think it's going to happen.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:11.699)
No.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:12.699)
But, I mean, the kernels of some of this stuff is stuff that I remember, like, not sounding
Unknown Speaker (00:58:18.219)
that crazy.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:19.219)
The national draft, you could totally, yeah, the national draft, you totally, I was scared.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:23.659)
I remember not insane people having that conversation about, like, is there a possibility that a
Unknown Speaker (00:58:29.219)
draft may come back because of the world circumstances?
Unknown Speaker (00:58:33.579)
Totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:34.579)
And so I think you can take that level of, like, okay, that's not that nuts, and then
Unknown Speaker (00:58:40.699)
attach all this nuts stuff on it and get someone to, I don't know, accept the nuts stuff because
Unknown Speaker (00:58:48.099)
of the...
Unknown Speaker (00:58:49.099)
Yeah, if I can buy something that is ostensibly nuts, which is the reinstatement of the draft,
Unknown Speaker (00:58:54.139)
then it's not that much bigger of a step to assume that there will be gray-clad children
Unknown Speaker (00:59:00.179)
with submachine guns patrolling my neighborhood.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:02.659)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:03.659)
All of this because of seat belts?
Unknown Speaker (00:59:04.659)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:05.659)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:06.659)
So another thing that Alex talks about a bit is there's a mad cow situation in Canada,
Unknown Speaker (00:59:11.059)
and the Canadian beef market is taking a hit because of, there's at least a few cases of
Unknown Speaker (00:59:17.420)
mad cow have been discovered and there's a fear of an outbreak.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:20.099)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:21.099)
And Alex is complaining a bunch about how you need to, you can't be feeding animals
Unknown Speaker (00:59:28.059)
other animals, dead animals, especially sick animals.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:31.599)
You can't be feeding herbivores animal products and stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:35.780)
And fine, I agree.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:38.360)
But I don't know what the answer is other than regulation.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:40.860)
Well, we can't do regulation.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:44.260)
It's nuts.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:45.260)
He just complains about how people can't be allowed to do these things.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:50.079)
How do you deal with this from a functional standpoint?
Unknown Speaker (00:59:53.699)
He never brings up a solution other than people shouldn't do it.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:56.860)
It's the free market system.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:58.820)
If everybody wakes up, if he's got a 90% wake up rate, then the free market will, I assume,
Unknown Speaker (01:00:04.860)
account for the fact that people know that these businesses shouldn't be doing that.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:09.000)
So all of these people won't patronize these businesses.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:11.579)
Well, it'll be too late because they'll have mad cow.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:14.019)
They will have mad cow by then.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:15.579)
That is unfortunate.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:16.639)
That is unfortunate.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:17.639)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:18.639)
I think regulation might be the only way to really...
Unknown Speaker (01:00:20.980)
Boy, it could work.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:21.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:22.980)
Anyway, I thought that was really stupid.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:23.980)
Very.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:24.980)
Alex has a call from a guy and he says Jesus a couple times.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:28.380)
Like just like, oh, Jesus Christ, you know, like...
Unknown Speaker (01:00:31.500)
Oh, as an epithet.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:32.500)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:33.500)
Well, sort of as an exclamation.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:34.900)
Gotcha.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:36.019)
Alex ends the call.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:38.019)
And this is...
Unknown Speaker (01:00:39.019)
Because he's taken to the Lord's name in vain?
Unknown Speaker (01:00:40.139)
Well, not because of that, but it's definitely what's on his mind.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:44.099)
John, great to hear from you.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:45.900)
I appreciate the call, sir.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:48.099)
Great points from the United Kingdom.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:49.539)
Please, though, I'm a Christian and we're on a many Christian stations.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:53.059)
I know we have a worldly audience.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:55.099)
Be very careful about using the Lord's name in vain because I don't want repercussions
Unknown Speaker (01:00:59.539)
of that, not from stations, but from God.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:02.800)
So I'm not mad at you, John, but be careful about, you know, being like the rest of the
Unknown Speaker (01:01:07.739)
world.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:08.739)
I'm not trying to chastise you.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:09.739)
I just...
Unknown Speaker (01:01:10.739)
Please, folks.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:11.739)
We have a lot of homeschoolers listening as well.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:12.739)
No!
Unknown Speaker (01:01:13.739)
And...
Unknown Speaker (01:01:14.739)
What?
Unknown Speaker (01:01:15.739)
And not...
Unknown Speaker (01:01:16.739)
What did you just say?
Unknown Speaker (01:01:18.219)
And not use the Lord's name in vain.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:19.900)
I don't want to divert people off, but that's an important point.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:22.820)
That is an important point.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:24.340)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:25.340)
Cut to 2021.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:27.340)
And Jesus says, you gotta buy my products!
Unknown Speaker (01:01:31.780)
I gotta trick Dick.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:33.059)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:34.059)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:35.059)
Oh, boy.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:36.860)
What a fucking ridiculous thing to say.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:39.860)
I worry about God's vengeance when a caller says Jesus Christ on my show.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:44.579)
Yeah, I think that's performative.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:46.900)
Maybe.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:47.900)
Just a ten.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:48.900)
Yeah, I think that's a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:49.900)
Just a hair.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:50.900)
So Alex thanks the audience here for putting his content out into the world, making copies
Unknown Speaker (01:01:56.579)
of his videos and stuff, because those things aren't going to spread themselves, and 90%
Unknown Speaker (01:02:01.420)
success rate.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:02.420)
90% wake up.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:03.420)
Pretty impressive.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:04.420)
We've got to research that, because whatever he's doing...
Unknown Speaker (01:02:06.019)
I can only commend you, thank you so much for what you've done.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:10.179)
In fact, I never thanked the listeners enough, the people that have gotten my films, the
Unknown Speaker (01:02:14.219)
people that have made copies and are still making copies.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:17.420)
Those that have aired them on local community TV stations.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:20.139)
Those that have rented out the movie theaters and shown it.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:23.340)
Those that have rented out the local gym or ample theater and shown it on a big screen
Unknown Speaker (01:02:30.739)
TV.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:31.739)
I want to commend everybody.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:34.460)
God bless you.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:35.460)
It's really having an effect, because we could back the globalist off.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:39.099)
I have no doubt that if we wouldn't have been fighting them on 9-1-1 and exposing their
Unknown Speaker (01:02:44.300)
involvement, the globalist would have already carried out more chairs.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:47.940)
Fuck you.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:48.940)
Yup.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:49.940)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:50.940)
I'm a fan of that kind of framing of things, you know?
Unknown Speaker (01:02:55.460)
That's always really fun.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:56.460)
Like, if we hadn't been doing this...
Unknown Speaker (01:02:57.980)
You know, actually, your supporting my show and spreading my materials has actually made
Unknown Speaker (01:03:03.099)
it so the globalists can't pull off another 9-11.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:06.179)
Yup.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:07.179)
Yup.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:08.179)
It's so great.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:09.579)
That's why Mark Wahlberg flies on every flight he can, all day every day, because he's trying
Unknown Speaker (01:03:16.300)
to make sure that no more 9-11s will happen, and the only way to stop it is to put a Mark
Unknown Speaker (01:03:21.179)
Wahlberg on your plane and have an Alex tell you how to stop it, I guess.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:26.380)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:27.380)
There we go.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:28.380)
We did it.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:29.380)
I think we've just fixed terrorism.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:31.380)
Can you imagine what kind of a shithead you'd have to be to act like this?
Unknown Speaker (01:03:37.340)
We could be like, okay, hey, thanks everyone for supporting our podcast, and actually,
Unknown Speaker (01:03:41.619)
I'm certain that there would have been another Oklahoma City bombing, there would have been
Unknown Speaker (01:03:45.300)
another Patriot federal building bombing if you hadn't been supporting our show.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:50.139)
What the fuck?
Unknown Speaker (01:03:51.739)
Listen, your support for our show made it so January 6th was not as bad as it could
Unknown Speaker (01:03:58.420)
have been.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:59.420)
Could have been worse, but we did it.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:01.940)
Here's the problem.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:02.940)
That is something that did happen.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:04.900)
Alex is making up imaginary things that didn't happen because his show is finished.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:09.699)
So what you're saying is, we successfully stopped the attack on January 7th.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:15.079)
That would be how you'd have to frame it.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:16.780)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:17.780)
Then we did it.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:18.780)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:19.780)
So there's some people who are saying that the war is kind of like a holy war.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:26.659)
Yeah, that's not good.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:27.820)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:28.820)
And Alex thinks that's bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:29.820)
Good.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:30.820)
However...
Unknown Speaker (01:04:31.820)
Oh, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:32.820)
And they said, this is a holy war and you're with the devil if you're against it.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:38.659)
That was a fraud.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:39.659)
But when they said that God has taken his protection away from America and allowed these
Unknown Speaker (01:04:45.139)
attacks to take place because we have become a corrupt and decadent nation on average,
Unknown Speaker (01:04:49.300)
that was true.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:51.380)
It's a scientific fact.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:53.139)
You read what's shown.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:54.780)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:55.780)
All right.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:56.780)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:57.780)
It is a scientific fact that God removed his protection over the United States.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:02.619)
That's why 9-11 happened.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:03.619)
In order to allow 9-11 to happen.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:06.219)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:07.219)
And that is why it's not a holy war.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:09.179)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:10.179)
Because it's divine retribution.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:12.659)
Also, Alex does say now that people who are against him are with the devil.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:17.500)
Yes, 100%.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:18.760)
So I guess it's a holy war now.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:20.739)
Well, now it's a holy war.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:22.619)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:23.619)
But back then it wasn't.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:24.619)
I'd like him to scientifically prove that God's protection was removed and that's what
Unknown Speaker (01:05:28.300)
made 9-11 happen.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:29.300)
Yeah, what exactly is God's protection doing around the United States prior to that area?
Unknown Speaker (01:05:36.099)
Did we never have any terrorist attacks prior to that?
Unknown Speaker (01:05:39.300)
None.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:40.300)
None.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:41.300)
Okay, good.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:42.300)
So Alex takes another call from a guy and he brings up scripture in a kind of clunky
Unknown Speaker (01:05:45.900)
way.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:46.900)
I just found this to be amusing.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:47.900)
Bill in New Jersey, you're up next.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:50.260)
Howard, go ahead.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:51.260)
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:52.260)
Mr. Alex Jones.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:53.260)
I have recently been reading in 2 Chronicles 23-11 and, you know, they anointed a son of
Unknown Speaker (01:06:03.340)
a king, you know, they said God saved the king, you know.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:07.780)
23-11 wasn't long.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:09.780)
So I don't know if you're familiar with 2 Chronicles 23-11.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:14.739)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:15.739)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:16.739)
All right.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:17.739)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:18.739)
Got a weird vibe going on.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:20.300)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:21.300)
Don't know what's happening.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:22.300)
Are you guys talking about kings?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:23.780)
Well.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:24.780)
Something?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:25.780)
The Chronicles are about the, I mean, they're literal chronicles of all the cool shit that
Unknown Speaker (01:06:29.380)
the kings did.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:30.739)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:31.739)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:32.739)
So, easy caller, easy.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:35.579)
What do you want to talk about?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:36.579)
Let's hear it.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:37.579)
But the idea of this, I've got a book here that says the true story of the seventh in
Unknown Speaker (01:06:42.099)
line to the British crown, and of course in that book is pictures of the mother and the
Unknown Speaker (01:06:47.139)
queen's mother, and they all kind of look like the Bush family, you know.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:51.500)
And of course I know that the Constitution was...
Unknown Speaker (01:06:54.260)
You're talking about British Israelism.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:57.780)
Well that's possible.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:59.280)
No he's not.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:00.780)
But that's interesting, because that implies...
Unknown Speaker (01:07:03.179)
That Alex knows very clearly what British Israelism is.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:05.980)
Well at least he knows of it.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:07.380)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:08.380)
It doesn't imply that.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:09.380)
It proves that Alex is aware of it as a concept, he knows it's a thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:12.139)
It's not something that he can feign complete ignorance about, which is a problem.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:17.860)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:18.860)
So the true caller, what he's talking about is a book that is about Prince Charles' brother,
Unknown Speaker (01:07:24.099)
his younger brother, the seventh in line for the...
Unknown Speaker (01:07:28.179)
It's not Andrew, it's the other, I think Edward is the other brother.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:32.139)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:33.139)
Nah, whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:34.139)
I don't like royals.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:35.139)
Yeah, it's just some biography about him.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:38.179)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:39.179)
I don't think it has anything to do with British Israelism.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:42.260)
It sounds like where he's going is that the Bushes are related to the British royal family.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:46.860)
Well, I don't know where he's going exactly.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:50.099)
Well, that's fair.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:51.659)
And I've listened to this.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:53.139)
That's fair.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:54.139)
That is fair.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:55.139)
So the caller brought up the scripture, and he's talking about anointing of kings is in
Unknown Speaker (01:08:00.099)
the Bible.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:01.099)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:02.099)
And he's saying he read this book about the royals, and they look like Bushes or whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:07.420)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:08.420)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:09.420)
And so I miked down for this, because I want you to help me out here.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:13.699)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:14.699)
And I can't tell if what this caller is bringing up is a satirical suggestion, or if it's sincere.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:20.420)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:21.420)
I'm not sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:22.420)
All right.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:23.420)
You know, in the Bible, it talks about how they anointed the king and gave him the testimonies.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:29.100)
And they were the Constitution, you know how they're tearing up the Constitution and manipulating
Unknown Speaker (01:08:33.899)
it.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:34.899)
Maybe we should forsake the Constitution and go with the king in this country.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:38.819)
And we should say, God save George W. Bush, you know, King George, you know.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:43.779)
So will we say that if Hitler was in Germany, let's go ahead, the Bible says follow Hitler?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:50.340)
A lot of people like Hitler, you know.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:52.819)
In Germany, they did.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:53.819)
I don't know why.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:54.819)
He was a complete badass.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:55.819)
I tell you what, I think that's another story about, I think Deuteronomy 23, 2, about, you
Unknown Speaker (01:09:01.380)
know, how illegitimate children were allowed into the congregation of God for ten generations.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:06.539)
It was a Jewish law, you know, Deuteronomy 23, 2.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:10.300)
But that's the Old Testament.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:11.460)
We have the New Testament.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:12.460)
That's right.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:13.460)
And I don't know what's going on here.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:15.539)
I can't tell, like, I think this is a sincere suggestion that the caller is making.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:20.420)
I agree.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:21.420)
But I can also see a way that he's really poorly expressing sort of a point of satire,
Unknown Speaker (01:09:27.140)
like, hey, you know, it's in the Bible that we have kings, why shouldn't we have King
Unknown Speaker (01:09:30.979)
George?
Unknown Speaker (01:09:32.460)
Like being, like presenting that as like an over-the-top argument.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:37.500)
But then again, I don't know what the point of that would be.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:39.859)
Like what would be underneath that satire?
Unknown Speaker (01:09:42.020)
Is he satirizing the Bible?
Unknown Speaker (01:09:43.500)
Uh, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:44.500)
I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:45.500)
No, I view this as him being 100% sincere.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:50.300)
It kind of feels that way.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:52.000)
And I think the main reason for that is he's been reading about how great kings have been
Unknown Speaker (01:09:59.680)
and how a philosopher king is perhaps the best type of government that there possibly
Unknown Speaker (01:10:03.979)
could be and has decided that democracy has failed us, the Constitution is meaningless,
Unknown Speaker (01:10:10.060)
and we should have a king.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:11.699)
Also...
Unknown Speaker (01:10:12.699)
And Alex, after a little while, is going to agree with him.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:17.819)
True.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:18.819)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:19.819)
Yes, I do think that Alex has come around on the idea of monarchy, at least a specific
Unknown Speaker (01:10:24.020)
sort of monarchy.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:25.020)
Seems like it.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:26.020)
Um, yeah, weird, weird that this guy's rebuttal to Alex being like, should we all just...
Unknown Speaker (01:10:30.020)
A lot of people liked Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:31.020)
A lot of people liked Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:33.020)
Ooh.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:34.020)
A lot of people didn't.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:35.899)
A lot of people didn't.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:38.300)
I would say probably a significantly larger number.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:41.199)
So this is something that kind of is a problem for Alex.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:45.680)
Much like the Republic of Texas callers, this is something that sticks in Alex's craw.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:50.479)
And so he goes to another call, and he's got to bring it up.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:52.859)
He's got to bring up this idea of making Bush king.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:56.140)
Hey, what do you think of these people that say it's Christian to worship your leader
Unknown Speaker (01:11:00.420)
and not criticize your leader?
Unknown Speaker (01:11:01.979)
Yeah, yeah, that's another important thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:04.020)
You know, don't put down a king just because he's king.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:07.420)
What?
Unknown Speaker (01:11:08.420)
He's a good king, he's a bad king.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:11.180)
And my family, I have two lines of royal blood dating back, I don't know how long.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:15.180)
I'm sorry, what now?
Unknown Speaker (01:11:16.180)
The one, I'm not going to say the name, but he was elected by the people.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:20.779)
The people held him up, and they said, we want him king.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:23.460)
Sir, sir, sir, this whole thing of getting rid of the Constitution and making Bush king.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:28.020)
George Washington fought in the backyard of the house I grew up in.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:32.039)
This didn't go the way Alex wanted it to.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:33.939)
Yeah, this is spiraled out of control pretty quickly.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:36.640)
This is spiraled out of control real quick.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:38.899)
Hey buddy, I kind of got the sense that maybe you'd back me up on this whole making kings
Unknown Speaker (01:11:42.899)
thing is bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:43.899)
Hey, some kings are good, actually I have two royal blood lines.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:47.220)
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely not what you would be expecting.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:51.460)
I mean, if you're Alex, with your Alex audience, I can't imagine you would get two pro-monarchy
Unknown Speaker (01:11:58.260)
people in a row.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:00.859)
That would be a surprise to me as well.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:02.420)
Yeah, I mean, at a certain point it's just like, wow, this is bad luck, it's full moon
Unknown Speaker (01:12:06.500)
or something, I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:08.260)
I mean, his fucking description of kings is literally, don't hate the player, hate the
Unknown Speaker (01:12:14.180)
game.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:15.180)
Some kings are good.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:16.180)
Some kings are good.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:17.180)
Some kings are good, like the two blood lines I come from.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:21.420)
I won't say which.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:22.420)
No, no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:24.100)
But George Washington fought in my backyard, just throwing that out there.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:26.739)
I wouldn't want to dox my blood.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:31.659)
I'd hate it if the Tudors heard I was bad mouthing them behind their backs.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:34.859)
Alex has said that he's related to the Tudors.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:37.340)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:38.340)
Maybe they're related.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:39.340)
Could be.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:40.340)
Could be.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:41.340)
So we're coming into the end of this here, and on the 27th Alex gets into talking a little
Unknown Speaker (01:12:46.180)
bit about some new news stories about some SSRI issues that are becoming conversations.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:55.699)
One of them is about dangers of withdrawal for some SSRI medications, and that is a real
Unknown Speaker (01:13:03.819)
thing, although Alex is trying to portray it as just being on these drugs will make
Unknown Speaker (01:13:07.659)
you kill people and what have you.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:10.899)
I thought this was bizarre, because Alex hasn't updated any of these talking points for 18
Unknown Speaker (01:13:17.539)
years.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:18.539)
These are all the same things that he says just word for word.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:22.260)
By the way, when they did these studies in the early 80s of Prozac, they found a large
Unknown Speaker (01:13:28.579)
percentage, around 14%, had suicidal tendencies.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:33.100)
You see, it puts you into a dream state.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:35.939)
So you're happily bumbling around kind of in a mesmerized, mind-controlled state, literally.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:42.819)
Then you have a bad day or a bad trip.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:46.579)
These drugs are more associated with hallucinogens than they are with other type drug families.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:53.739)
And some people just have a snap.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:55.260)
I've talked to psychologists and people that know what's happening, and they say that they've
Unknown Speaker (01:13:58.859)
had patients who were on it, and they're dancing around naked with butcher knives on top of
Unknown Speaker (01:14:03.060)
their houses, they kill their kids.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:05.460)
Most of these women who killed their kids were on multiple drugs, almost all the shooters.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:10.100)
In fact, we haven't found one yet who wasn't on these drugs.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:13.260)
Yes, we have.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:15.020)
It also makes you very open to suggestion.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:19.220)
It puts you into a subconscious state, folks.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:22.340)
These people are sleepwalking.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:25.460)
This is just exactly the same sort of stuff that he says all the time.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:29.619)
And the thing that I think is really interesting is that story about the butcher knife on top
Unknown Speaker (01:14:33.460)
of a roof is also the specific example that he uses for years and years.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:38.699)
This one image that he has of a case of somebody with a butcher knife on a roof, I think this
Unknown Speaker (01:14:46.260)
is just deeply irresponsible.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:47.779)
I think this is the definition of an unnuanced take on psychiatric meds.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:55.859)
Yeah, I mean, there's not much to say whenever it's like, man, in 2003, I was unmedicated
Unknown Speaker (01:15:06.819)
just coming into my own as a type one bipolar person.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:09.300)
But you could see reality, man.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:11.579)
And just reading about it back then, it was legitimately in the literature of bipolar
Unknown Speaker (01:15:20.020)
type one was just straight up like one fifth of you don't make it for whatever reason.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:26.119)
And it's related to your mental illness.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:28.640)
And like that idea of somebody being like, well, you know what?
Unknown Speaker (01:15:32.260)
That's better than SSRIs and feeling good is just like, I just don't know how you can
Unknown Speaker (01:15:39.380)
talk to somebody who's aware of the death toll that just being alive gives them.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:45.300)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:46.300)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:47.300)
It's real shitty.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:48.300)
In a way you could say that giving someone life is in fact giving someone death.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:54.539)
Yeah, there's a lot of factors and variables that Alex isn't taking into account here.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:59.979)
And obviously any medication that people take isn't without risk.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:05.859)
Living without medications for some people is also a great risk.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:11.039)
And it's unfair to attack medication because of the risk while not accepting that there
Unknown Speaker (01:16:17.500)
is a great risk to not taking medication.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:21.779)
And the fucked up part of it, the fucked up part of it is what one of the biggest contributors
Unknown Speaker (01:16:26.460)
to that is.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:27.500)
Let's say you were on an SSRI and then you listen to a fucking radio show and suddenly
Unknown Speaker (01:16:32.279)
decided to stop taking your medication.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:34.899)
And then your withdrawals fucking light you up and you become part of the statistics that
Unknown Speaker (01:16:40.199)
Alex is going to use the next year to say that people who are on SSRI should immediately
Unknown Speaker (01:16:45.460)
stop them as part of his evidence for what's just so fucking-
Unknown Speaker (01:16:48.739)
I have to correct you because it is that Alex does bring up that just stopping taking meds
Unknown Speaker (01:16:55.779)
is dangerous.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:56.779)
Well that's good.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:57.779)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:58.779)
I don't know if it's enough to dissuade his listeners who hear him say that taking meds
Unknown Speaker (01:17:04.500)
make you have a bad trip or you're just brainwashed and sleepwalking through life.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:10.340)
But he does actually say that you need to take a decreasing dose and it's dangerous
Unknown Speaker (01:17:17.260)
just to stop.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:18.420)
That's very good.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:19.420)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:20.420)
I mean credit where credit's due.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:21.420)
Oh totally.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:22.420)
At the very least he's doing the absolute bare minimum while fear mongering about the
Unknown Speaker (01:17:26.140)
meds.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:27.140)
I just couldn't let that not be said because he does actually-
Unknown Speaker (01:17:31.420)
It's good to say, it's good to point out, yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:34.420)
Now unfortunately he also says things like this.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:38.300)
And that says, last year more than 22 million prescriptions for antidepressants were written
Unknown Speaker (01:17:42.220)
out by British patients.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:44.140)
Most of them for SSRIs.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:45.140)
These drugs work by allowing the hormone serotonin to act properly in the brain controlling mood
Unknown Speaker (01:17:50.819)
swings.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:51.819)
Oh to act properly.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:53.539)
How about you go for a jog?
Unknown Speaker (01:17:54.539)
How about you splash some cold water on your face?
Unknown Speaker (01:17:56.859)
How about you get on your knees and ask God to heal you?
Unknown Speaker (01:18:00.220)
Because believe me folks, their vaccines, their drugs are a bunch of trash.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:06.859)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:07.859)
And apparently you should just pray.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:10.140)
Well, you know, I feel like I'm worthless and like I'm a drain on every single human
Unknown Speaker (01:18:15.220)
being around me and that every part of life would be improved if I were no longer here
Unknown Speaker (01:18:20.340)
for it.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:21.340)
But actually you know what I should have just done?
Unknown Speaker (01:18:23.100)
Jog.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:24.100)
Gone for a run.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:25.100)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:26.100)
My bad, my bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:27.100)
Just jog.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:28.100)
While I was running I definitely wouldn't fixate on those very same repetitive thoughts
Unknown Speaker (01:18:32.060)
that I can't get out of my way.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:33.180)
No, you should just pray that God heals you.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:36.020)
She's gotta pray.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:37.659)
Man, that advice really worked for me when I was growing up.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:40.939)
Oh me too.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:41.939)
I got that one a lot.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:42.939)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:43.939)
Fixed everything.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:44.939)
Yeah, it solved a lot of problems.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:45.939)
I mean, look, I don't want to like give any credence to what Alex is saying, but you know,
Unknown Speaker (01:18:52.420)
exercise can help people feel better.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:55.140)
Exercise and meditation are great ways to cope.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:57.819)
They absolutely are.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:59.180)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:00.180)
But that is not a full health regimen necessarily.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:06.140)
And I think that this is just kind of dangerous, kind of bad, and I think, you know, obviously
Unknown Speaker (01:19:13.579)
it's not what I'm looking for in terms of figuring out if Alex believes he's fighting
Unknown Speaker (01:19:17.699)
the literal devil.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:19.340)
There's a corollary here that Alex does seem to think that health can be achieved by God
Unknown Speaker (01:19:23.920)
giving it to you.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:25.100)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:26.100)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:27.100)
So there is at least some kind of weird religiosity here.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:32.739)
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely an escalation from metaphorical to Jesus and God having
Unknown Speaker (01:19:41.779)
a literal effect on curing you, which suggests that they are real, literally, and if they
Unknown Speaker (01:19:50.140)
are real literally, then his cosmology suggests that the devil is real literally.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:54.460)
I'm not positive that that is an assumption that you can make, because I think that a
Unknown Speaker (01:19:59.979)
lot of people can believe in literalness of God's existence without believing literally
Unknown Speaker (01:20:07.899)
in an antagonist Satan.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:10.500)
Sure, sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:12.100)
That's, I agree with you, that's true.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:14.100)
I think the evidence presented so far in 2003 of Alex, though, is such that you can't be
Unknown Speaker (01:20:19.739)
like, I'm guessing his belief in the Bible does not include Satan.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:26.779)
But I also think that you can believe in the literalness of God and not necessarily believe
Unknown Speaker (01:20:31.699)
in the literalness of prayer is a health care plan.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:35.859)
True.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:36.859)
You know, like, I think that there is a difference between those kinds of engagement with religion.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:43.979)
Yeah, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:44.979)
And I think you're seeing that Alex is at least clearly in the God is better than single
Unknown Speaker (01:20:52.140)
payer.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:53.140)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:54.140)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:55.140)
In 2003, but I still haven't found...
Unknown Speaker (01:20:56.899)
Single payer?
Unknown Speaker (01:20:57.899)
More like single prayer.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:58.899)
Boom.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:59.899)
That's what we do.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:00.899)
I still haven't found enough evidence of literal Satan, so we will keep looking.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:06.220)
Although this episode was just bizarre.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:08.380)
I mean, beyond just the boringness of it, it's very boring.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:14.739)
Just standard ass Bilderberg shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:16.340)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:17.340)
But behind that, you have two guys who are, have a lot of appearances of anti-Semitism,
Unknown Speaker (01:21:22.220)
who are the experts that Alex has on to talk about the Bilderberg stuff, which I think
Unknown Speaker (01:21:26.500)
is a problem, and it definitely merits attention.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:29.859)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:30.859)
Next, the other thing that I'm seeing here, bizarrely, 22nd to 27th of May, 2003, Alex
Unknown Speaker (01:21:38.859)
isn't talking about Putin.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:40.699)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:41.699)
It was conspicuous in its absence.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:43.420)
I don't think it means anything, but it's like he would talk about the fucking apartments
Unknown Speaker (01:21:47.579)
and Putin constantly, and on these episodes, it doesn't come up.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:51.180)
It might just be that he had other things to talk about, but.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:53.979)
I mean, I would get distracted too if my guests were notorious anti-Semites and my callers
Unknown Speaker (01:21:59.720)
were oddly pro-monarchy.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:01.979)
I would get tossed out of my regular.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:04.260)
And one guy found an 800 seat Nazi church in the middle of nowhere.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:08.460)
That would toss me from my regular Putin stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:11.100)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:12.100)
Got other fish to fry.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:13.899)
Or at the very least, I'm distracted by those jangling keys.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:17.140)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:18.140)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:19.140)
We have a website on Friday, but until then, we have a website and we have a show on Thursday.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:24.539)
Yes we do.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:25.539)
Thursday, July 1st, it's at 9 p.m. at the Lincoln Lodge, there are still some tickets
Unknown Speaker (01:22:30.140)
available.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:31.140)
I will have buttons there.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:32.899)
Ooh.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:33.899)
Probably not the new buttons, but I have some holdover buttons.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:36.460)
Nice.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:37.460)
And if anybody wants to come out, I'll throw a button at you.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:39.420)
We'll get buttons.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:40.420)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:41.420)
You will get, I guarantee, buttons will be tossed at you.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:43.659)
There will be some buttons there.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:45.220)
Yeah, it'll be a good time.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:47.460)
So if you're in Chicago, obviously it's not going to be a live show of our show.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:52.180)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:53.180)
But it is something that, I think that we will have a feeling of, is there an interest
Unknown Speaker (01:22:59.199)
for a show based on, like if no one comes to this, then I think we'll continue recording
Unknown Speaker (01:23:05.060)
in my apartment.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:06.060)
It does seem like that might be the way to go.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:07.979)
I don't want that to be a threat, but.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:11.739)
No that was a very good, that was a very good plug.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:14.180)
Well done.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:15.180)
Thanks, we're also on Twitter.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:16.340)
We are on Twitter, it's that knowledge, go to bed Jordan.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:18.819)
We're on Facebook.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:19.819)
We are on Facebook.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:20.819)
If you would like to download a show, go to, apologies, iTunes, iTunes, I lost my mind
Unknown Speaker (01:23:27.420)
there for a second, iTunes and then find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:31.859)
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis, I actually
Unknown Speaker (01:23:37.220)
found Barack Obama's secret Baha'i church in Evanston.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:44.739)
It's actually just the Baha'i temple in Evanston.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:47.819)
It's not secret.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:48.819)
I don't think Obama ever went there.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:50.779)
I just found this really cool building.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:53.579)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:55.939)
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:00.659)
I love you.
Retrieved from "http://knowledgefight.wiki/index.php?title=Transcript/571:_May_22-27,_2003&oldid=3363"