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Andy and Chanzas.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Fight Knowledge.
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I am Jordan.
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I'm Dan.
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This is the podcast where Celine worships at the altar of Dan Friesen, and we talk about
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anybody but Alex Jones.
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Me and Celine have a collaborative worship relationship.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a real mutual worship kind of thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Very symbiotic.
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If you will.
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Jordan, I have a question for you.
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What's that, Dan?
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What is your bright spot for today?
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My bright spot for today is... I'm not trying to plug.
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I have no interest in plugging.
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Oh, shit.
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This sounds like it's a lead-in to a plug.
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We did an episode of the other show that we do, the D&D show.
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The Dungeons and Dragons.
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Yes.
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God's damn wizard.
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God's damn wizard.
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You are the dungeon master.
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Yeah.
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And last night-
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Slightly competent dungeon master.
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Oh, boy.
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Flailing about dungeon master.
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But last night we recorded, and it had been a couple of weeks since we recorded, and it
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was so fucking great.
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It was a lot of fun.
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To hang out with all of the... with Marty and Liz and Sarah and you.
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It's just so much fun to hang out.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is.
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It's a fun social thing that we don't get enough of these days, and we could have been
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doing stuff like it this whole time.
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The whole time?
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Yeah.
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It turns out it was always there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I admire your effort that you've put into that.
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You know, we shit on you a bit, but it wouldn't work if you didn't have a story-
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No, that's true.
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For it.
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That is true.
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No, and it's just so much fun.
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If you like it, you like it.
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That's great.
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But I like it, so everybody else can go to hell.
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That kind of thing.
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Well, your bright spot actually kind of weaves into mine a little bit, and that is that we
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did do that Dungeons & Dragons-ish role-playing thing, and it got away from me a little bit.
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I had a few drinks, and I watched the White Rapper show on VH1.
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For a long time, it was not available anywhere.
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I couldn't find the actual episodes, and I started watching some of it on YouTube.
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It's now available on YouTube.
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Thank God for internet archivists who are just like, yeah, I guess it was a show in
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2003.
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We're going to find it, and we're going to put it up.
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It's going to be out there.
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It doesn't matter what it is.
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I watched the finale, and John Brown is great.
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That's my bright spot.
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John Brown.
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John Brown.
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King of the burbs.
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King of the burbs, and king of murdering slave owners.
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The two greats of John Browning.
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You know what I say about murdering slave owners?
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Hooray!
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Hallelujah, holla back.
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Yeah, there we go.
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Well, Dan, for today's episode, episode number six of Jordan Takes the... Well, 5.1 since
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we lost five.
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Yeah.
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I think we have to call this five.
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We'll call this five.
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But I am engineering this to make sure that audio doesn't disappear.
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Yes, I did notice that.
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So today we are going to be talking about Nazis and aliens, Dan.
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Oh, thank God.
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That's what I'm all about.
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Oh my God.
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I will say this.
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I went through-
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You told me that you had found something that was really exciting and really interesting.
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I didn't know what to expect, and you telling me that it's Nazis and aliens, that is as
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good as it could have been as a reveal.
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It's about as good as it can get, then.
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Thank you, Jordan.
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So we will be talking about one, maybe or maybe not, Dr. Joseph Ferrell.
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But I think before we do that, we're going to need to say thank you to some people who
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have-
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Yes, I think we would agree to do that.
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So first, let's say what's up to Peaches are Nasty, Plums are Supreme.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I totally agree with that too.
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Plums are underrated.
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Yeah, wrong.
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Next, SirMcSwagins III.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, SirMcSwagins.
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Next, Zach from Texas.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Zach.
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This one is a policy wonk and also an added shout out.
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Shout out to Basic, and this is the name here.
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Fuck you, Myles.
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I rode that wave like a dick.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much to all of that.
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Next, Sara Cat.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Sara Cat.
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word here uh-huh tacos burritos and chimichangas thank you so much you are
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now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much tacos burritos
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chimichangas and I gotta say we have a we have a technocrat and this is
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actually a combo girl with a you uh-huh girl and Edith Beauvoir Beale Napoleon
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Moyle you're now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic
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have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we got to go full
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tilt boogie on this Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't
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making that money off that heroin why are you pimps so good my neck is
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freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you very much to the both of
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you Jordan yes sir we are recording this in advance but we're on vacation indeed
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we are um and I kind of lied to you oh no yeah what happened well see here's
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the thing oh my god have you been dead this whole time yes I'm trying to lure
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you to my ghost home I knew it's too good to be true Dan Friesen has been
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dead for 17 years no I you know it seemed like just a random vacation it's
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like it's overdue let's take some time and have have some fun sure the reality
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is that I'm celebrating a couple of walks birthdays okay so I wish I had
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birthday to just another Dan okay great name great name I feel like every Dan
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should not feel like they're just another day this is another Dan I think
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every Dan is special except for Dan Hastert no Dennis Hastert I somehow
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mixed up Dan Snyder and Dennis Hastert in my head okay and they're both
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monsters so that sure sure and then also Newt I got a fantastic lovely email from
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Newt and I'd like to wish Newt a happy birthday although you could go with a
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Gingrich on this one but you shouldn't no actually that's my grandfather's name
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is that right it is his name I didn't know that oh yeah yeah it's a strange
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name it is well he's his birth name I believe is not I believe his birth name
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is noble okay and somehow they just started calling him I guess at a certain
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point in time Newt was short for noble and so that's how he goes Wow yeah how
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about that I don't dislike it as a name and also while we're in Hawaii I will be
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chasing down a ton of lizards and newts and for shows oh you got so iguana I
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might come back with a bunch of iguanas oh yeah we're gonna get a new thing of
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luggage we're gonna poke some holes in it and you're just gonna have a bag of
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lizards that you're wandering around with I think that that was one of the
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most important parts of my childhood in Hawaii was fine it was so we will
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reclaim a little bit of that anyway fun than the plains of central Midwest I
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will say that so Jordan I hear I hear that we have a conversation about Nazis
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and aliens indeed we do today we will be talking about an interview that Joseph
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Farrell gave with Richard Surrett who does the conspiracy show with Richard
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Surrett he is also a regular guest host on coast to coast okay so so he's he's
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that kind of one of the junior varsity guys yeah yeah I don't keep track of
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those guys unfortunately no and we're yeah there he's he's pretty I don't know
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we'll see how how much you like him but Joseph Farrell is called a doctor a has
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from what his bio says a doctorate of patristics from Oxford University okay
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which is basically a theology kind of thing if you go by what many people who
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of interviewing have given him credits for he has a doctorate of physics if you
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go by other people he has a doctorate of what was it not patristics either
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philosophy none of which I think he has uh-huh I kind of don't think that he
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went to Oxford mainly because he has one story about his time at Oxford and I can
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find no evidence that this Joseph Farrell went to Oxford however there's
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another Joseph Farrell with a doctorate of economics from Oxford okay that's
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possible and his story from Oxford his years there is he was at a debate at the
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Oxford Union Society that lasted for eight days oh my god and it was
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sponsored by Heineken for the Ethiopia food relief right right around live aid
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all of that stuff and endurance debate yes and here's the thing here's the
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thing if this is true then Boris fucking Johnson was there whoa because they were
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but Boris was running the Union debate society uh-huh and so we should know
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about this were they on opposite sides of the issue or they don't know allegedly
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no no what I'm saying is he doesn't mention Boris Johnson at all it seems
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like it would be a headline seems like you would know if you were at a eight
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day debate with the future fucking Prime Minister of the United Kingdom yeah
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the debate went so long that I had to break pencils and make a little fire in
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order to keep warm yeah like Wade Boggs exactly yes absolutely he also according
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to himself grew up in South Dakota and one fun story he tells is that when he
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was growing up he was around six or seven years old and his best friends
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there were more than one of them who had fathers who fought for the Germans in
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World War two so great bread yeah so he grew up around Nazis yeah now here is
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the kind of thing you generally want to keep a close to the vest I don't want to
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tell people cuz he and he tosses it off like hey they fought for the Germans
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yeah it's weird enough that like you know we we do a show where Alex talks
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about like being Confederate Royal yeah exactly that's weird enough but I would
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I would think that like I know people and I hung out who's who were not we're
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not they were just Nazis yeah no big deal um but he is however a scholar I
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think the fact that he grew up around Nazis will explain a lot of his later on
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his later life however he is definitely a scholar he's got at least a master's
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degree that I can confirm and he has written a total of maybe 40 45 books
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that's too many books way too many here's the strangest part though okay
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his first books are all about religion he translated the mystagogy of the Holy
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Spirit by patriarch Phodios from the Greek and apparently it's a really good
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translation and he he's cited writing the foreword in in Christian circles of
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the well holy cow this is foreign to our show totally totally he wrote free will
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in st. Maximus the confessor which is him trying to deal with Calvinism he
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does not do well and then the disputation of Pyrrhus as well as what
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was the other one do God history and dialectic which is his final religious
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book now that was published in 1997 in 2002 he published his next book which
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would begin the future of his career hmm would you like to guess what the title
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of that book might be well I mean you've already sort of tilted some of these
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cards indeed and I think there's aliens involved probably so I would I would say
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that likely it has something to do with space Raptors being involved with the
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Holocaust he's a Death Star okay that's right if you thought that the pyramids
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were just tombs you're an idiot totally that pyramid is a Death Star exactly
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like well the one from Star Wars I would like to bring up that they were for
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storing grain during the presidential debates from there he went on an
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absolute terror that continues to this day he keeps cranking out books some of
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which the titles can be like this grid of the gods the aftermath of the cosmic
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war and the physics of the pyramid peoples who not a bad title uh Reich of
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the Black Sun Nazi secret weapons and the Cold War Allied legend oh boy yeah
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let's see financial vipers in Venice alchemical money magical physics and
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banking in the Middle Ages and Renaissance of all of his titles there's
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four of them in his early life that are like I am a good Christian I read
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theology I'm focused on this and he's a good historian and then he something
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happens and he's just off the map yeah like completely off the map and winds
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up on the SPLC's hate watch list because he is oh why well you know
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that's something that I have been struggling with because I think if
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you'll listen to him as we go along he's not a Nazi what I think he is is a Nazi
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fanboy that's that can be as bad it is it is weird it is really weird yeah it's
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a strange and it's it's not a big distinction it's a strange one in that I
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don't think he wants the Nazis to win mm-hmm but I do think he's amazed at how
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good the Nazis were at finding alien technology hmm which is a very strange
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a subset of anti-semitism sure but it's there it's definitely I'm interested to
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see how you lay out this argument well I mean so so he's he's another of the he
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talks about globalists makes the makes a bunch of puns about them he's he
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fancies himself a bit of a Dennis Miller type sure but yeah I don't know we'll
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see we'll see how that goes um then there are another thing there are
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another few things that are incredibly annoying about him for instance he
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always wears a hat and it is always it is either a Indiana Jones hat or a
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classic English bowler this guy's from South Dakota yeah I went to Oxford yeah
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I think he might be playing that a little bit well I wore I wore a bowler
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for a little while in high school tell people you went to Oxford I had no I
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but it was a desperate affectation yeah yeah and here's one that's even worse he
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chain smokes chain smokes with a Cruella Deville cigarette holder oh my god I
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love this and he does not inhale he chain smokes and he just puffs the smoke
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out the whole time so it's it's so infuriating to watch this man I'm just
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screaming at him like I quit smoking stop doing this there's a part of me
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that kind of enjoys that because it's so intentional yeah it's it's not so
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obvious yeah like no it couldn't be more pathetic or or his life is art and this
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is a piece of the there's also there's a well we'll see if he was parodying the
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type of it's oh if he is doing like a Kaufman thing so say that what happened
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after his religious books ended is he was like oh shit actually religion
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might be stupid I'm going to create this character and pull off a decades-long
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scam to show people just how easy and how similar religion and Giza Death Star
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really are what what if he just saw Andy Kaufman do his wrestling totally sort of
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stretch it was like totally I could do this but with religion it's not hard he
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he was he was on his translating game yeah and he came across a text he didn't
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tell anybody about it translated it up right and he's like oh no oh no I must
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satirize I got it somebody's got to do it yeah if nobody else is stepping up to
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the plate it's got to be me mm-hmm yeah he's he's a he's a real like professor
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type but the kind who kind of creepily talks to his students and chain smokes
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with a thing but doesn't inhale he says so on and so forth almost at the end of
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everything he says it is the most he's just an annoying guy he's just such an
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annoying guy you know what though I mean I say be that as it may and totally
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interesting like I you can't fault somebody necessarily for their tics those
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that you know cliches and now no problem but after every sentence people people
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just have ways of speaking and so on and so forth that's fair that's fair and so
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forth so on we go I what is going to happen I've listened to probably like
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15 hours of this guy talk and none of it was it all remotely usable yeah little
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behind the scenes yeah George you you were telling me how interesting this
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person is and how much you wanted to talk about him but he's so boring yes
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you'd watched hours and hours of stuff there's nothing here and then and then
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last night he goes on Richard Surrett show surprisingly enough and there is a
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lot of interesting stuff there also in this particular interview Joseph Pharrell
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is looking into the webcam on his computer and he is holding an old-time
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phone up to his ear like a big old-timey phone like the the peach ones that you
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could really slam with a wire cord the ones that had like that you had to put
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your finger in and and go around the rotary the whole thing yeah it was it is
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it is so ridiculous to watch a man in a webcam holding a phone up to his ear I
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like that I kind of do but old man house phone would have been like that's tacky
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you should have just done audio that's actually got some Intel on this he has a
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hamburger phone it's a house phone but it's a hamburger okay so he threw away
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his old Bart Simpson phone yes it upgrade oh yeah so we are going to
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begin this interview and you are going to hear Richard Surrett give you some
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whiplash if we get they're doing they're gonna open up they say in phases so the
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first phase if 60% of the population is vaccinated will give you a little bit of
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your normal back if then in phase two if 70% you'll get a little sliver of your
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normal life back and then finally phase three we need 80% of you vaccinated I
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mean I don't want to argue the efficacy or the safety of vaccines and people
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want to have the vaccine that's certainly their business and those that
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don't that's their business but this this level of coercion you know have we
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forgotten about the Nuremberg Code I mean how can how can people have such
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short memories that's I mean that's that's very yeah what's fun about that I
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find it so interesting that he is reasonable all the way like you know
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what if you want to get the vaccine I'm not gonna be a huge answer it's killing
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you and if you don't want to get the vaccine I'm not gonna be like I'll kill
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you if you don't well I think that but the Nuremberg Code you know like that
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kind of reasonableness is kind of a facade though like I don't want to argue
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the time for it right yeah that's not somebody being like I'm on board yeah
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that's just like I don't want to I don't want to deal yeah um but like the
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Nuremberg Code kind of argument is is very present in Infowars world yeah like
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Francis Boyle brings that up a lot yeah it's annoying it is it's just them
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saying hey this is how science and math works if we have this level of
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protection then you can do this number of things yeah it's not hard the
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argument that I would make back to this I think would be like all right let's
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imagine a scenario where this isn't all fake or whatever this is an actual
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pandemic how does what's going on now look different than what would be the
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best thing to do what what is the like do you do you do you accept this
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vaccination Quotia quota or quotient is appropriate in the case of a real
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outbreak yeah if so then yeah what that that's that's what I would I would like
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to do could you plan a better way yeah right so we open the interview and of
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course we're gonna talk about you know kovat denialism and the like well we
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brought up Nuremberg and that has a new Nazis so I assume you got it so Joseph
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p4l has some things he would like to say is he happy sorry Pharrell joke if these
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vaccines were so safe why why are they resorting to such draconian measures to
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push people into receiving them they're not exactly and the answer to that even
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if they were is because of assholes like you who are telling everybody not to get
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them I feel like they're being like people are being pretty aware that like
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it's important but like you know I I don't know I don't think I've ever seen
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anything that would indicate to me like coercion of vaccination I think that
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most of the people who I am in social circles with have been chomping at the
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bit yeah yeah and and have hunted down no we almost drove five hours to get you
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a vaccine yeah and and now you know the CDC had that that recommendation that
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people can stop wearing masks in public that that if they've been vaccinated and
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that is just a measure of trust yeah you know like if you like that's not like
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everyone must wear a special shirt that they only get from vaccination centers
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and then they cannot wear masks right or whatever like there's no coercion no
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what draconian policies are you talking about recommendation exactly like what
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is going on here yeah I honestly think that it could be more dry would almost
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agree yes you're totally right you're totally right and it's just that it's
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just it's always a trap it doesn't matter it doesn't matter especially with
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this guy anything that you say confidently you are either right about
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but here's what you're missing or you are completely wrong about and I have a
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completely different idea so here is let's go ahead and play this is a long
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clip because I want everybody to get an idea of what this dude talks like and
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how he talks so just see if he answers this question Richard is going to ask
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him how much of this is preparing us for a world without jobs here is how that
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goes well I think a lot of it is at least in their thinking but I'll tell
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you something Richard there's something very peculiar going on in in railroads
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and and people that know me know where I'm gonna go with this because my dad
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was a railroad engineer not you know not the locomotive kind but the engineer
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that inspects the tracks and so on and so forth when I was very very young and
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he got me fascinated with with steam locomotives and if you have been
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following what's been happening with railroads in this country the Union
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Pacific Railroad has been restoring the steam locomotives at a breathtaking rate
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they just finished restoration of an articulated big-boy steam locomotive
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4884 to you know haul freight and so on and so forth now the interesting thing
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is Union Pacific isn't investing all this money to basically create a
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locomotive works in Cheyenne Wyoming to to enhance railroad heritage days
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there's something else going on and my suspicion is that with the increasing
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reliance of global technology on digital systems they've suddenly realized that
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they've exposed themselves and there's their precious systems to a little thing
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called electromagnetic pulse or for that matter hacking cyber hacking and so on
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and so forth we just saw the colonial pipeline takedown so I think mr.
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global Oni is also kind of hoist by his own petard they're trying to put in
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digital systems and particularly digital currencies so what you're seeing has
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pushback at least here in the States I can't speak for up there for the
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Canadian provinces but in in several states in this country we've seen some
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pushback of a very unusual nature against this idea of digital currency
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South Carolina passed a measure recently to acknowledge as legal tender for all
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transactions interestingly enough that the coin had to be denominated in
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dollars Texas opened its own state bullion depository and so on and so
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forth so you're seeing some very unusual pushback that tells me that somebody at
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least in some of these states knows what the game is and they're acting
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accordingly to to secure some sort of basis for a currency should they try to
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roll out a digital system with their helicopter money and the missing jobs
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and a universal basic income and so on and so forth look did he answer the
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question yeah no I forgot what the question was right I was I was going
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along with what he was saying about railroads railroads rare earths I think
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he was speculating that steam engine locomotives could get hacked and I don't
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know what was going on with that and that was interesting I was I was
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thrilled to find out about steam hacking and then it pivoted to digital currency
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yeah I don't know what's going on anymore so the question was how much of
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this whole lockdown is preparing us for a world without jobs his answer was all
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the railroads well I think yeah a lot of it is at least the way that they say it
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and then he goes on for two full minutes about something completely unrelated
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actually but I'm not something who is the multiple things that are completely
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unrelated I resent this because I'm not interested in the cryptocurrency
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nonsense but I am interested in the locomotives would you like to know
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about the locomotive yes I would all righty I definitely would like to hear
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him talk more about hacking trains well here it well his his thoughts and and he
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said that anybody who knows me knows this oh yeah so it's like maybe it's a
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big thing this is a big thing of his this is a huge thing of his you know
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what you know it's very hackable cool ah you're you've got it backwards he's
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saying that Union Pacific is restoring old steam engine trains because they
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know that eventually all the electromagnetic trains are going to be
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disabled by an EMP oh yeah that actually makes more sense like as a coherent
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thought than I thought it yeah yeah yeah well I mean kind of because I thought
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he was speculating that like steam would be hacked right it makes sense that it's
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like all these trains are digital then we have to have these as a backup
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raise these steam yeah it's steampunk yeah yeah and then of course futuristic
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giant mechanical robot spiders if we could get some flying steam engines
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Allah back to the future 3 I'm gonna be stoked yeah so would you like to know
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what's going on with Union Pacific rebuilding those trains this is from
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Justin Franz of Atlas Obscura I'll just go ahead and read you the headline real
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quick one of the world's largest steam locomotives is about to make a
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triumphant return hold on to your engineer caps railroad history lovers
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choo-choo does that sound like a nefarious so it's very very simple six
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days after six decades after the last big boy was taken off the rails the
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Union Pacific is rebuilding one of the famous locomotives in honor of the
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upcoming sesquicentennial celebration of the first transcontinental railroad
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yeah it's kind of like a tourist attraction yeah or something yeah
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absolutely it's a celebration as far as the digital currencies go what he's
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talking about is states having repositories for gold bullion and you
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know like certain states saying you have to take gold if somebody gives it to
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right right and I don't know why he's a bothering about that because you'll
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notice what states specifically he's referencing they are states that one are
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filled with people who say would rather have the state have a gold bullion
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depository then sending a large amount of money to Ted Anderson hmm that would
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be that would be smart sure and then of course with South Carolina and the like
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they're filled with people who are like the money the dollar is gonna explode so
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they might they pass all these laws all the time it's just random-ass nonsense I
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would really love for you to sit me down uh-huh with a map of the United States
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and tell me state by state what it's full of people who are like ad dollars
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gonna explode and this one I know it's just potatoes my version of the
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Animaniacs song Africa Panama yeah so yeah that is that is kind of the way
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that he talks so past that I've tried to kind of edit it down for clarity yeah as
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you will seems he seems like a guy who is boring as hell uh-huh but also is
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teasing like slightly interesting thoughts yes yes in a way that's
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frustrating and now you realize why I was like I gotta talk about this guy but
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he's so goddamn bored yeah yeah yeah so uh this is this next clip is basically
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another in a very similar stretch so you mentioned the colonial pipeline and the
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the cyber criminals that effectively shut that down and caused you know long
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lineups at the the gas stations and so forth and and really kind of a I think a
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warning shot of things to come and then then colonial admits that they ended up
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paying five million dollars in ransom in cryptocurrency I think we're probably
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not getting a full story here what what are you hearing about what really
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happened I mean was this really just an isolated you know an incident of some
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gang of cyber criminals that decided you know to roll the dice and see what would
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happen and lo and behold yeah they paid up I mean what what are you hearing
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about okay so that is the question mm-hmm okay yeah very simple long-winded
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question it's a long-winded question everybody on these shows also every show
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that I think I've seen him do an interview on is at least three hours
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long mm-hmm this one was thankfully only an hour and 51 minutes I'll say that
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like in terms of like a lot of the stuff that I listen to in conspiracy that that
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that sort of sphere I will at least this guy's being precise yes and like it it's
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it's not good or all that like I don't know if we're gonna get to any truth
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sure sure asking a specific question right right no no I'm going to be said
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for that I kind of I I won I like that Richard Surratt is doing a Casey Kasem
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impression yes uh so much so much I'm waiting for him to do top 40 hits we're
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gonna talk about the going to the left and the right I suspect they paid seven
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million dollars and ransom what about you and also here is 303 so why did it
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come with 303 really don't know where'd that one come from I don't know man
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okay it's trying to think of bad music and it was the first thing you could
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have done worse now um so simple question what do you think is what are
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you hearing what's going on do you have do you feelers out yeah well I've heard
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basically the same thing but I'm like you I don't think that we've heard all
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of the story and one of the interesting things about the colonial thing that I
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don't know what how it was reported up there but there's some of the media down
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here was reciting government officials and so on saying things to the effect
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that this is there there will be more of this so yeah yeah so he's citing
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government officials saying that there will be more of this and all he's really
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responding to him with is yeah I think you're about right there and then he
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goes off on a different thing that you didn't know about like that kind of
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every time you introduce something or ask a direct question it is immediate
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like well maybe and then going off into whatever it is he really wants to talk
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about right everybody just listens to him like that's fine
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I have watched him talk for almost 10 minutes uninterrupted and people are
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wrapped by this and it's blowing me away by people you mean you no no I mean the
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the interviewers right right they're all sitting there there's YouTube like this
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is not a small thing neither uh-huh these are there's a plenty of people
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like constantly doing all those things people aren't cutting him off no like
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three minutes in your answer totally you should absolutely be doing that so I the
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answer is yes it'll probably happen again obviously well that's that I mean
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like what he's doing is playing that game of like the the the government is
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is being like hey this is a new threat yeah this is something that we can't
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expect might happen again we need to prepare strategies to deal with this
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right you are a business like the colonial pipeline that has like maybe
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infrastructure related necessity yeah in your operations be aware yeah and
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instead he's prepared he's presenting that as like the government being like
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and do this yeah this is happening all the time now again I would I would ask
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if like this is real and there are these hackers doing this how is that statement
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from the government any different than the best-case scenario of a statement
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that they would make as a warning what is the differentiation between it uh
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well they never do that well fine yeah now I assume you would think hey that
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answer is over you've answered the question yes probably and it's probably
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a false flag he is not done he's not nope he keeps going about a week after
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that story broke there was a story about the interstate bridge on Interstate 40
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from the bridge Tennessee the bridge was shut down because they had discovered a
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crack in one of the pylons on that bridge and I think pictures of this
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crack and the top of the crack is is a perfect straight line now the effect of
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that bridge shut down was that barge traffic on the Mississippi River south
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and north of Memphis Tennessee came to an absolute standstill so somebody
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appears to me to be working awfully hard to take down the the infrastructure of
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the United States and in these kinds of creative ways so I think colonial
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pipeline is kind of the tip of an iceberg that that they're getting ready
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to do something major in order to push their agenda all right yeah get it yeah
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see what happened was the colonial pipeline was hacked now what also
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happened was surprisingly enough very near to where he lives there was a crack
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in the bridge right but the reason that the government gave for repairing it was
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pesky barges need to get in and out because it's a massive actually water
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ways this is genius okay do you realize tell me on that for the last like 10
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years the globalists have been planting stories in the media about how bad our
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bridges are subtly warning right that they're gonna hack the bridge you have
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to you have to tell everyone you have to give them that cosmic choice there have
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been these op-eds about how more resources should be funneled towards
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bridge repair that's what they do so sneaky now the real story behind the
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hack is actually really really fascinating and if they had bothered to
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look into it well that's not the bridge right no not the okay no the bridge is
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not interesting just that's just a regular old bridge that's just
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maintenance yeah they were just maintaining the bridge I had a hunch
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yeah it was fine but you can turn anything you want into a conspiracy
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theory if you just go well they hacked the pipeline and there's a crack in my
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bridge right the government's working against if you just if you if you play
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the insinuation game you can you can make a lot of mileage yeah exactly but
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the real story is not obviously they didn't mention any names of the people
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who were hacking they they were like oh is it a one-off event or anything like
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that this is a hacking group called dark side who've done this they are
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ransomware masters they have been taken shit ton of money and then they
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disbanded immediately following the colonial pipeline smart theoretically
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from what people are saying is after they got paid six million the small
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collective of the hackers disbanded and then just took all the money mm-hmm the
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way that they normally work is almost 70% of the money goes to all of these
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like subsidiary hackers who do all of the the grunt work and and then they
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take their cut at the end not so this time so what did they they left the
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grunts out to dry yep Wow yeah brutal right no honor not too surprising so
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this story actually begins before the colonial pipeline hack whatsoever so
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from technology review by Renee Dudley and Daniel golden on January 11th
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antivirus company bitdefender said it was happy to announce a startling
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breakthrough it had found a flaw in the ransomware that a gang known as dark
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side was using to freeze computer networks of dozens of businesses in the
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u.s. in Europe companies facing demands from dark side could download a free
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tool from bitdefender and avoid paying millions of dollars in ransom to the
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hackers that's a great thing right it's a good idea now Dan what should you do
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when you find a flaw in a hackers programming wait who am I am I a hacker
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you were bitdefender your job is to protect people from hackers well you
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find a flaw you should probably try and patch it fix it up they did that they
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patched it and they fixed it up okay now here's the problem they released it as a
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public relations statement and within 12 hours dark side was like oh they found a
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hole in our software let's find another hole find it they fixed it it was over
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with mm-hmm so bitdefender has basically and this is happening over and over and
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over again yeah it's constant back and forth well and here's the thing though
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people who are good at this stuff don't tell anyone and all of these antivirus
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scammers basically announced the moment publicly like hey we fixed this the
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hackers can no longer get to us and then five hours later it's all right right
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so all of these antivirus companies are trying to get the positive you know like
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look at how great we are press of like we fix this hole actually antithetical
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to their goal exactly yeah you got it they continue to go on and here's it
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there's a bunch of really kind of interesting little details here Aaron
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Tantliff a Chicago cybersecurity attorney he is he consulted with 10
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companies attacked by dark side he said that dark sides representatives were
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shrewd bargainers if a victim said it couldn't afford the ransom because of
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the pandemic dark side was ready with data showing that the company's revenue
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was up like they had all of this they were ready this was a fortune 500
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hackers yeah yeah absolutely look I'd like to refer you to the accounting wing
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of our hacker collective yeah and not only that but the they have this like
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halfway we're we're only attacking corporations that we know can Robin Hood
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that kind of thing yeah and yeah they even came up with like actually we do
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know how much kovat has impacted your bottom line and we have adjusted our
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ransom accordingly so even if you don't want to pay the ransom it's like god
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damn it they make a lot of sense listen we're not heartless for hackers we're
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not heartless yeah so what wound up happening is a dark side just blew ever
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blew them away because bitdefender is very very stupid and they're gonna
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continue doing it mm-hmm it's just how it goes and all of this they're talking
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about like oh it's conspiracy are these rogue actors or anything if you look
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into it you'll see that this is a hugely sophisticated operation right with
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people who are incredibly successful at all of this and it's kind of an
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inevitability of like digital progression you know like as as there is
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more stuff that is is is online and digital mm-hmm there will be the the
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highwaymen of yeah the the online space like it's it's just like it's exactly
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what you would expect to grow and and get more sophisticated as people who
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would robbed stagecoaches turned into people who robbed trains yeah and then
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it would turn into a mafia exactly things get more sophisticated and more
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organized mm-hmm it makes sense that the inevitability would be something like
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this totally and instead they just say they're so boring it's so much more
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boring they're bad conspiracy theories then what is a real conspiracy yeah I
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feel like this is the exact same thing that we talked about with like that guy
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in the IRA yeah you know like it's the reality of it is fascinating and it is a
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really interesting piece of how like history and like human interaction works
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yeah and instead you're turning this into a conspiracy that's actually more
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boring than the actual total world you're trying to fit it into your large
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conspiracy theory where it doesn't belong no just be interested just be
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curious yeah that kind of thing it's just not hard you don't have to
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distrust everything yeah exactly so real soon we're gonna get into space but this
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one I just have to this is just silly st. Michael asks Joseph what about the
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Apollo oh he wants to to go a secret space program I guess here or something
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related to maybe the lunar landing hoax Joseph what about the the Apollo 12
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ascent stage experiment crashing into the lunar surface and it rang like a
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bell for a long period of time well I don't know that it rang see I'm
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accidentally cut it off just a little bit early but he is saying he's he got a
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question from the audience Michael st. Michael he's asking Joseph hey how is
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this possible and as Richard is answer is asking the question he's like they
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say it rang like a bell and he's like oh well that sounds silly it didn't yeah so
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would you like to answer the question that I have just negated exactly and
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here is the answer dong anyway with Joseph any thoughts on the Apollo 12
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ascent stage experiment crashing into the lunar surface yeah that individual
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is is actually citing the the language of the scientists that that reported on
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that experiment that was their word hello I'm a scientist it rang like a
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bell excuse me mr. Surratt it did ring like a goddamn Bell okay immediate
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immediate response is just no it read like it rang like a bell that's literal
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verbatim yes from this scientific literature despite being physically
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impossible in the world we inhabit uh-huh you mean in space yes yeah yeah
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in the universe we inhabit apologize so then we have introduced space and this
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do what what is the conspiracy here that the moon is hollow you're about to find
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out is that the is that the the thrust of it ringing like a bell because there
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would be sound vibrations right if it was hollow but then it would also have
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to have an opening yes so it's sort of hollow earth but the moon yeah so the
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moon is a base okay I'm putting the pieces together okay here I'm gonna spit
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ball okay the Nazis are inside the moon okay um you're not far off in fact
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you're terrifyingly close go ahead this is basically that movie iron sky he's
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almost all like a movie guy yeah love it yeah I think in the early 70s I don't
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remember exactly when it was but Sputnik magazine the old Soviet periodical
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published a set of articles by some Soviet scientists that actually had the
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thesis that the moon was a big huge artificial spaceship because it was you
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know it was impossible to explain the physics of how it got there doing what
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it's doing on any of the natural models for for its existence you know the
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capture model the fission from Earth model and so on and so forth so I you
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know I give some credence to those stories and even to that theory because
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you know it's it's like Isaac Newton said about the moon the moon's the only
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thing that gives me a headache because you have a good way of explaining how it
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got there doing what it's doing I mean the guy quoted Sputnik yeah yeah
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Sputnik magazine from the 70s or 80s some Russian scientists speculated that
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maybe the moon is a spaceship 50 years later Joseph P for L thinks that that's
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probably true my friend have you heard that cheese yeah yeah it is it is that
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that's the type of thing that we're dealing with you are absolutely right
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there are Nazis up there I mean I feel like you know in the 70s it's the late
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70s this might have been after a particular Death Star
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look sort of like the moon that's not a moon Dan it's a space station they're
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really biding their time with like doing anything with it yeah 70s and 80s you
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don't know what it's for just yet huh um so yeah at least like the second Death
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Star was like under construction and that made yes made sense for like why it
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wasn't doing like a space station would have blown up a planet by now or done
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something I do I do like the idea that instead of whatever in Star Wars they
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like the it's fully operational instead they're like listen we're gonna have to
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hang out here for about 50 60 years and then we'll get to him I swear to God
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well right there don't fucking move don't leave the moon not just that but
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you would need to have like MREs to like so much food but not just that you have
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to then say that the moon has always been a space station right so for someone
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had to have created exactly I've had to built it pre-earth because everybody is
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yeah and there needs to be like some kind of like a biome inside that has
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like something there's no light source so you can't like plants having
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photosynthesis I don't know how you would keep animals alive that seems like
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it would be prohibitive yeah on the moon or in the moon I guess you could
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have like an elaborate fungus kind of economy that's true it could be like a
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like a lost world scenario where you go in the moon and it turns out that
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there's actually brush and beautiful verdant tropical island there I think
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you would still need something to give for like energy to that that that flora
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and fauna Atlantis and fine oh oh and also Atlantis is also magic Atlantis is
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in play thank God so we're at the midpoint they just started talking
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about space and now I'm just I love this clip I just love this hey thanks for
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inviting me into your home long-haul truck RV camper taxi your parents
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well-appointed rec room with the simulated wood paneling electric
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fireplace and the painting of dogs playing poker your loft that greasy
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spoon just off the interstate and your cabin in the woods hello to everyone
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listening in on our flagship station am 749 6.7 FM
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zoomer radio here in Toronto and hiya to those of you tuning I just love it it
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just reminds me so much of Casey case of yes it's just so much Casey case if I
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just love it let me describe a Norman Rockwell painting give a shout out to
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the only station I'm on I there's something about that that just reminds
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me of literally a long road trip in the middle of the night listening to some
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terrible radio station and you hear that and you're like yeah that's what radios
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about yeah you're you were saying this guy's one of the like junior varsity
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guys on coast to coast and it it shows it smells like totally so the reason
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that I wanted to do space is aliens are obviously in the news these days and we
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don't get enough of it these these days on the podcast no we just don't um and
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then this guy's obsessed with Nazis so why not put them both together now how
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might you think that cuz I this is one question that I was interested in
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especially is everybody normal now everybody who is not a space weirdo
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before is now like holy shit government's saying there's aliens or
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something going on here how is the UFO community taking this and false light
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and the fact that the government stole UFO from them and changed it out of
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nowhere just because they didn't want them to look stupid it's fake yeah right
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so let's see okay we have this technology now and and maybe you know
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that might explain these the tic-tac UFO videos even though the the Pentagon is
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saying they're not ours they're not ours well maybe that kind of blows that out
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of the water well the the tic-tac videos you know and all of this stuff I you
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know you can go look up patents online for triangular shaped vehicles that use
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some form of field propulsion what bothers me about all of this is not so
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much that the technology apparently does exist what bothers me is the constant
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rush to attribute it to ET and well I mean that's a thought yeah the guy who
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just told us that the moon was a fucking spaceship rang like a bell that the
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Pyramid of Giza is actually a Death Star right that the Nazis are just fucking
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everywhere cloning people all this stuff sure he's telling you people are rushing
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to judgment on this ET stuff yeah you don't know you can't tell that sure yeah
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yeah he's being real dismissive of this and I will admit if this is one of those
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situations too where I've looked into it and these the original UFO folks are now
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debunking the government's videos right because it doesn't work for the stories
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that they write the folklore exactly but in this situation they're doing a good
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job the the government's videos can very easily be explained and it's kind of
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disappointing whenever you look into the simplicity of their explanations and
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you're like oh shit what a surprise human error and machine error that's
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never happened in the military before yeah yeah like a lot of like headlines
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and like excitement can get ahead of yourself a little bit and and that's
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that's something that I actually think is really fascinating is that like a lot
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of these communities are capable of decent critical thinking it's just
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misdirected if you're attacking their bullshit yeah they will apply very
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rigorous and solid critical thinking skills to your bullshit they can yeah
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it's just not usually done exactly yes it is very much never done so that's why
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when I hear that clip it's like okay people are really eager to attribute
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this to aliens yes they are yes I agree with you I don't disagree with that
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statement coming from you exactly yeah exactly and he is he is getting he's
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getting a little bit salty these days oh no about his UFO information the the
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idea that this was a vehicle reconstructed on the basis of what they
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had they had recovered from crashed and recovered UF vehicle UFO vehicles that
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to me could be a cover story for what they're really up to in other words if
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this might be wholly a human product I don't know but I'm increasingly
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skeptical Richard about the ET narrative particularly from governments that have
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been willing to lie to our faces about you know masks and vaccines and so on
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and so forth so yeah yeah he thinks everybody's job bad what if it's an
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actual tic-tac what if it's just with buzz marketing yeah I think it's a do
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you think it's like that that time aqua teen hunger force put pictures up places
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and then they got bomb threats from whatever what the tic-tac's been biting
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their time sure there's a secret program yeah to give tic-tac the power to create
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extraterrestrial vehicles I believe it I don't think that's terribly wrong but
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yeah everything that you think is wrong everything that they think is wrong and
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if you know something you're wrong about it and here's why oh and now he's
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starting to get a little bit possessive as well are you thinking that the the
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technology exists and that that these are made in the good old USA or are did
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this technology find its way into the hands of our adversaries Russia China
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well I think a lot of it I go back to what I've been writing about in my
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Nazi series of books I wrote a book a few years ago that ufology loves to
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ignore it's called Roswell and the Reich and it's about the Roswell incident I
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pray that I never do anything that the UFO community loves to ignore I pray I
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pray that that is not a fate that I have my career where I'm pissed off community
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ignores my book it's very strange that the UFO community is not also willing to
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toss the Nazis in with the Roswell circumstances some of them do though
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that's true I feel like this guy is being a little bit I don't know salty
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like you said yeah I mean like there are that is a that is a conspiracy that I've
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heard before sure it's not something that's like verboten in conspiracy and
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space communities I have read a little bit of his book though and they made a
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movie called I read a little bit of that book and not iron sky the
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novelization of the movie iron sky no it's it's just nobody reads my books
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that's that's kind of words I relate yeah no I have professional misgivings
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about more people could listen or the ufology community is no oh no no no you
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would prefer just generally like I think anybody who creates things like we could
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have a wider audience or I feel like that's what he's saying yeah yeah but
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he's more saying they don't respect me so on and so forth exactly I I'm I just
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love it this is this is kind of fun for me just because everything is
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everything's obviously a false flag Nazis obviously had et Giza pyramid is a
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death star all all of this stuff is true simultaneously but somehow these guys
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don't take it to a mean place like even for all their COVID denialism which is
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inherently mean and cruel it's not like they're they're not the type of person
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that I'm used to hearing talk about this where they almost relish like the the
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inflicting of cruelty or the expression of cruelty right like for someone like
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Alex it's less about the point and it's more about getting to yell at somebody
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about how they're wearing a mask yeah and I think that is kind of a feature of
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a lot of the stuff that we see yeah yeah totally and for him you don't think it's
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it's not malicious he strikes me more as almost a hoarder of Nazi bullshit like
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instead of somebody collecting beanie babies he's collected lore and he's just
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hoarded it and so I don't know how much of it is anything about how he feels or
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thinks or even has like prescriptions or what we should do I don't think he
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takes any of his like here's what we should do seriously right all he's
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really interested in is hoarding all of this information mm-hmm none of it is
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true but he's so hoarded it over the you know it's just like he did with when he
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was a theologian he hoarded all of this biblical knowledge all of this history
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and and tightened he wants to be the dungeon master of Nazi space exactly he
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wants everybody to kiss the ring because he's hoarded the most knowledge yeah
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that's the way that he operates and so yeah in this situation it's just just
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ridiculous all right let's see oh you betcha you betcha asks Joseph how do you
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compare kovat vaccine passports compared to the long-standing requirement to have
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your kids get a vaccine to go to school or vaccines for yellow fever to travel
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which is an interesting point so you know in other words why are we getting
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all upset about and worked up about vaccine passports right mm-hmm that's a
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good question hmm that's a really good question I got excited when I heard that
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question because that would be a moment if that shows up on info Wars where Alex
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is like I'm sorry we gotta let you go and hangs up real quick cuz it's a very
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solid question yeah I I honestly was listening to it and I got lost because
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it bored me all right yeah so I was thinking this is great because it's a
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reasonable question so the only way out of it is you got to take a big swing
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yeah you know I got really excited you got hit hard I got hit hard I simply
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don't buy the universality of vaccines I grew up as many people in the United
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States did in a state where this was not a requirement in fact the only vaccine
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I've ever had in my life is the polio vaccine the Sabin vaccine when I was
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very young I've not had any vaccine ever since that so it's not a an entirely
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universal experience huh nope no big swing at all he just says I grew up and
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I didn't have to get vaccines except for the polio except for the polio one now
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why are we not talking about how the polio vaccine is also evil let's not
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worry about it he's already had it he got it was he was a kid we're not gonna
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deal with that sure that does beg the question are some vaccines good right
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but we're not gonna deal with that sure isn't that a real I was so disappointed
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I was so disappointed because his answer is just basically like well maybe if I
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had grown up in that culture I would understand what you're saying but since
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I didn't I don't care mm-hmm that's I wanted I wanted Nazis to be behind it
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yeah yeah yeah it is a little bit of a swing and a miss yeah it's a real bummer
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it's a real bummer yeah now they that is the interview with the conspiracy
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theorist equivalent of stepping on a banana yeah somebody should have thrown
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a pie in his face immediately following that yeah put a little comedy in there
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come on guys so now we get to some of the things that Pharrell is writing so
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he also has a blog and he posts stuff all the way all there and now if you
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looked at his blog oh yeah I've read a lot of it does he have any posts about
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how no one ever really dies um I don't think he has posts about how no one ever
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really dies but any RD the group that Pharrell was oh my god sorry oh my god
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sorry you're killing me I'm trying to do this I'm not great at running a show and
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dealing with references this is what I have to put up with and you've done it
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several hundred times true so yeah they talk about one of the things that Joseph
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has written you posted a blog I'm not sure how long ago it wasn't too long ago
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discussing some rather interesting formations that you've spotted on on
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Mars first there there was some discussion about some ice formations on
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the planet and that led you to look a little further and and what did you spy
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where you buried the lead yeah you didn't tell me this guy maybe has a
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telescope oh he does because that's enough to get him on unfortunately he
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does not have a telescope he is talking about pictures posted from 2001 by the
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Mars Odyssey spacecraft and Richard sets this up as though this is a very
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important article and Joseph's response we're not gonna listen to because it's
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eight minutes long and all he's really saying is nothing he's saying stuff like
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hey it looks like it could be let me let me read you the caption so the pictures
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that Richard is talking about hmm saying this article is very good let me read
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you the captions on these pictures quote when I look at this with my layman's
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eyes I'm not seeing much about Antarctic ice flows and a whole lot of weird stuff
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that borders on things that look like nearly perfect circular whatchamacallits
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huh good you think that's good stuff yeah okay I mean look the scientist said
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that the moon rang like a bell true and so this seems like scientific language
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that's true the doodads well it goes on quote and then there are lots of odd
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little bumpy things often neatly arranged in rectangles triangles and so
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on and then finally we have lots and lots and lots of rectilinear and
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structural looking things as somebody who spends a fair amount of time reading
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things in journals I'm used to things being described as bumpy little bumpy
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little things whatchamacallits yeah okay so we're gonna have to cut your chest
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open and we're gonna perform some surgery on your who's it and then we'll
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take the what's a and put it in your whole wall and you'll be good you fell
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off this high place and the problem is that really hard thing inside your arm
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it's got a you got a crick in your heart thing see all I all I hear is an
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unfamiliarity with scholarly writing on your part unfamiliarity with research
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wow I mean that's that does that doesn't not sound very it doesn't sound like
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somebody should bring it up in an interview and be like now you just wrote
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this interesting thing I mean you have an uphill battle whenever you're
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starting an interview and being like you wrote a blog yeah that alone is a tough
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sell whatchamacallits whatchamacallits great now I'm assuming you're asking how
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is it that they can pay for these whatchamacallits bumpy things and
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structural looking things who they mr. mr. global annoyed as I think he likes
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to instead of saying globalist he likes to Dennis Miller it up with mr. global
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annoyed or whatever avoid the global annoyed yeah exactly there we go that
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one I got so yeah so now we're gonna talk about how everybody pays for it we
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were talking about Mars and a little bit about the secret space program you
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mentioned Catherine Austin fits earlier and the missing trillion something like
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21 trillion dollars missing from the US government so is it your belief that
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that much of this money is being funneled into the secret space the
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secret space program for what the construction of deep space platforms and
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so forth I know Catherine Austin fits Oh do you a lot personally okay yeah she's
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she comes up in various places yeah so she's a former HUD official in the
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W administration and then when she left she created a brokerage firm and she
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started business doing business with you guessed it the HUD now what was going on
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is while she was doing the accounting for these contracts with the HUD and the
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Pentagon and that kind of stuff stuff didn't look right it didn't look right
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at all things are going wrong and so Joseph is going to tell us what it is
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she found so if we go back to to let's say the day about some 2008 they pumped
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an enormous amount of money into the system or did they I like that yeah well
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they bailouts yeah were for like upgrades to the moon basically now his
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theory I guess is that if the bailouts happened then inflation should have
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skyrocketed which okay that doesn't exactly work but that's fine what he is
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completely ignoring is that the 21 trillion that we're we're talking about
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is not missing in the sense that it's like it was taken away and now it could
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be anywhere right right it's missing in the sense that the Pentagon by design
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does not keep track of where it spends money mm-hmm it doesn't keep track of it
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it doesn't they you can't audit it you can't nothing happens they've tried to
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have so many accountants go in and just give it a shot right and you can't do it
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by design because if you know exactly how much money you're spending you
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might get less well there's that and then also I would assume that there's
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probably some kind of like national security reasons why you wouldn't want
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that information being somewhere where people could possibly get a hold of it
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sure sure that I would assume that maybe there's some of that right but I even
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then you would have a budget and they do not right they just have money and then
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they spend it so even whenever they're talking about passing a military budget
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it does it's just it's just there mm-hmm and they spend money and if they spend
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more than that budget the government's still gonna pay for it nobody cares
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right yeah right that sort of like missing money is is the the same kind of
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thing that people talk about with like there's this unfunded social security
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and totally totally it's the same misunderstanding of like it's not
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unfunded it's just money isn't there yet because it's future exactly it's people
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paying into it will pay for it in the future you know like that it's the same
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sort of semantical trick that people use to try and argue against any kind of
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government spending exactly now although in this case maybe there's more to it
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oh no everybody who has looked into it everybody who has looked into the
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Pentagon budget has like immediately like they they open their computer they
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look at one line and they raise a red flag up into the fucking sky and shoot
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flares and they're like this is not good yeah this is a problem it's a it's a
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it's a it's a misunderstanding based on like the way it's being described yes
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but it's an extra this this is a problem for a different reason yes yeah you got
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it now Joseph has a different theory than that so I've actually speculated
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that somehow this money may actually be going off world yeah how I don't know
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sure sure I'm in yeah I just love that yeah I just love that he does not go
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this is the one time that he really doesn't go on further cool here's his
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response well um I think it's probably off world and I don't know how it got
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there now I should say I got no idea right I'm not even gonna give you a gas
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no but I will say that I'm just speculating yeah I don't know it's
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probably off world I might be in that empty moon up there I would love to be
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the guy doing this interview because my response would be like oh you're
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speculating oh oh are you interesting I'm speculating that that money stayed
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on world now what we have reached an impasse we must agree to disagree yeah I
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mean it's just it's just that so often so what he always is money in space
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moon rocks no no no it doesn't mean anything oh yeah yeah no intergalactic
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treaties recognize money all right yeah yeah otherwise how could we do business
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with the ET if they don't recognize our currency I would suggest we don't please
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go on yeah and so that's exactly what Joseph does a with everything speculate
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yes the only difference between that clip and what he normally does is the
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tricks he uses of being like I'm gonna flood you with names I'm gonna flood you
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with information because he's an incredibly knowledgeable guy he's
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hoarded all of this information right so he hits you with so much references all
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the time that people skip over the fact that most of his responses to questions
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are essentially I'm speculating here yeah I don't know anything I might be
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making this up yeah totally and it's it it's just mind-boggling how popular this
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guy really is it's nuts hmm cuz he's boring and he doesn't have anything to
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say it doesn't seem like it and then this is the I believe this is the last
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clip because I just couldn't do this after this do one of your blogs recent
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blogs on Giza death star calm and this it's entitled precognition and as you
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point out it's a it's a wild article that I guess someone shared with you and
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it has to do with these scientists who have discovered that the heart and brain
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can respond to future events obviously before they happen tell me more well I
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find that very interesting because it it seems to present a physiological case
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that that the structure of the brain and the heart and they're very very similar
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somehow represent or mirror the the fabric of the universe and the reason I
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find that very interesting is you can go online and look at pictures of galactic
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clusters and what they think are the plasma strands that connect them and
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then compare those pictures to actual neural mapping of neurons in the brain
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and they're remarkably similar yes you ever see a fractal man yeah that's
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that's what I was I was listening to that just going supposedly I'm supposed
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to take you as an authority on Eve and this and you're telling me your response
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to precognition possibility is to say look at the pictures of the stars and
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people very similar yeah maybe we're little little bugs inside a brain like
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the universe universe is a big brain yeah and that's just another person or
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something fine man but come on come on you're supposed to be the expert in this
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shit and you cannot come at me with you know they look alike sure it's so
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disappointing to me and I just can't handle it I couldn't handle it past that
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point I was like I've heard too many times you just go oh it looks like a
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whatchamacallit and then be done with your with your evidence when I tilt my
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head up I see the whatchamacallit and it looks like the doodad and so
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precognition is probably true or not or whatever yeah it doesn't mean anything
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no and he just keeps getting listened to as though he's an authority wearing his
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dumb Indiana Jones hat smoking his Cruella de Vil cigarette and he's not
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even smoking and so on and so forth I feel like you shouldn't be mad at the
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hat and the affectations those are kind of charming do you think that's why he
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keeps getting invited probably yeah I might talk to him I might be tricked
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yeah no he's uh he's not interesting enough to trick you I don't think you'll
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need to worry too much about that oh so yeah talking that he has not been on
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project Camelot hey don't think he had well he was interviewed by not carry Oh
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by Bill Ryan yes okay I remember seeing that okay and so I was going to talk
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about bill is less fun he's much less fun yeah yeah yeah that was not good
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it was done in a weird hotel room that looked like a motel six yeah those
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they're early aesthetic yeah yeah so that is Joseph P Pharrell the possible
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doctor definite shitbag and mediocre writer
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Nazis did not factor into this as much as I expected no the problem with the
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Nazis is that that is his like I guess mid period work uh-huh you know like now
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he's more into banks are killing everybody okay um and I it was about 10
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15 years ago that he was all into Nazis all talking Nazis all the time before
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the era of podcasts exactly yeah a lot of available audio sorry there were
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there were there wasn't more Nazi talk but it was teased but you know what
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we're never we never need more Nazi I mean he grew up next to Nazis so we
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could probably ask them sure yeah I bet they've got a lot of Nazi content yeah
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well this is interesting Jordan yeah I thought it was fairly interesting I
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thought he was an interesting guy and I thought we should talk about him thanks
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for bringing this to my attention I will I you will so we'll be back I guess I
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think we will but until then I'm pretty sure we have a website yes it's
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knowledge fight calm I thought we might have been on Twitter at one point maybe
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at BB boo boo boo yeah and I think if you wanted to you got it and as always
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I am neither neo Leo DZX Clark or Dan Friesen at all and now here comes the
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sex robots Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding
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well Alex I'm a first-time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you
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