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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight.
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Dan and George, knowledge fight.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Need, need money.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Andy and Chanzas, Andy and Chanzas.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Chanzas, Andy and Chanzas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a assistant caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes.
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We like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What's your bright spot today?
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Uh, by, ooh.
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Tlenti for gelato.
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Gelato.
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Gelato's great.
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Gelato's great.
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Gelato's great.
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I decided to treat myself with a little ice cream thing.
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Oh, yeah?
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Got the caramel truffle one.
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Oh, those are good.
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And I almost broke my hand opening it.
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Of course.
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I know that's a hackneyed observation to make.
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Those fucking jars need to... They need to do something about that.
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That is unacceptable.
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It's a health hazard.
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Is that right?
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No.
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The jar?
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I think it is.
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I've lost skin on my hand.
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Really?
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Trying to open those... God.
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Ooh.
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The worst.
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Run it under a little warm water first.
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No, it's not going to help.
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It's not going to help.
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It's not going to help.
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It's not going to help.
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But they're good.
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They're damn good.
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I worry about them being that good, because I'm not paying that much for ice cream on
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the regular.
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But it's good.
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It's a nice little every now and again treat.
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Yeah, it is.
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We're recording this before the move in anticipation, and so the high stresses of the move required
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a fair amount of self-medicating with ice cream.
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With ice cream.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that's a smart move.
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Yeah, so that's a bright spot.
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How about you?
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Well, classic slapstick comedy, Dan.
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That is my bright spot today.
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Interesting.
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Dick Van Dyke.
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My partner and I, we made pancakes and bacon and eggs last night for dinner.
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Classic breakfast for dinner.
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Is that a vaudeville routine?
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Classic breakfast for dinner situation.
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Okay.
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Went to get some eggs.
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We were out of eggs.
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Went to get some eggs.
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Went into the store, bought some eggs, brought them out.
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We were walking our dogs at the time.
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My partner was like, hey, no, let me carry those eggs for you.
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I'm about to hand them to her.
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She grabs, puts one hand into the thing, drops the eggs right on the ground, immediately
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trying to be as helpful as possible.
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Twelve eggs gone.
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That is not slapstick comedy.
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Slapstick comedy.
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No.
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Classic slapstick comedy.
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That's dropping eggs.
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Classic slapstick comedy.
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Didn't you do a soft chew afterwards?
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No.
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No, she did not.
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I don't think that that's comedy.
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No.
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I think you can laugh at it.
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There was a conversation in the pre that involved like, ah, dropping eggs, ah, we got to take
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care of it.
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And then she did drop the eggs.
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It was very, very simple and direct.
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All right.
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Well, perfect.
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I'll call it comedy.
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Perfect.
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So, Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over.
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We are talking about June 12th, 2020, home dance 2020.
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It's Friday of last week and part of the reason for it is that because we have to record this,
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I'm still, as you're listening to this, I'm still in the process of getting all set up
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at the new apartment and everything.
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And so we wanted to not leave you too high and dry.
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Just wanted to say hello to the future.
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We're all glad that Martin Luther King Jr.'s granddaughter is the president now.
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Right.
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Time travelers were correct.
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Time travelers were correct.
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100%.
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I mostly bring this up just in case any of the things we say sound entirely dated.
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Yeah.
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That the world changes within the next three days, which it will.
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Which it will.
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Yeah.
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Oh man, what are these guys still doing talking about the United States of America?
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That shit is way old.
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Yeah, cut us some slack if aliens show up on Monday or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We are in the past.
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We don't know that stuff.
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So we got an interesting load of bullshit to go over.
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But before we do that, let's give some shout outs to some folks who have signed up and
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are supporting the show.
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Love it.
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Great name.
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Last initial M. Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Mo.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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Ah, the great Jay Matzby.
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Yeah, all one word.
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And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on an elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Basil, and thank you so much, Kelly.
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
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If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show.
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I like what these gents do. I'd like to support it.
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You can do that by going to our website, clicking the button that says support the show.
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We would appreciate that.
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Or if you'd like to, you can fold up that generosity into the form of a swan.
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Here we go. Land it.
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Make some origami that you deliver to a local charity in your area that's helping people in need.
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That would also be wonderful.
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That's a great landing.
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Ugh. I'm not good at that, but maybe there's something good about how bad I am at it.
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That could be.
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Anyway.
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Classic slapstick comedy.
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Classic.
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So, Jordan, on our last episode from Monday, we discussed how Alex was going hard on this new video that this woman had put out,
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where she was accusing doctors of killing people in hospitals.
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Totally not suspicious at all.
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It was over the top.
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That was on Alex's Thursday show on June 11th.
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Yeah.
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This does not come back up on the 12th.
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It doesn't come back up at all.
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No.
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What are you talking about?
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It doesn't come back.
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It doesn't come back up at all.
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It seemed on Thursday to be, like, the most important thing.
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That was the narrative.
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Yeah, yeah. It's not really involved at all in this episode.
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Okay. Sure.
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So, Alex is on another tip.
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Okay.
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The movie over at the top.
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No, it is not.
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It is that Biden has announced the coup.
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And so they're making their big move.
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The headline's on Infowars.com.
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Joe Biden says the U.S. military may engage in a coup against the president.
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That's really what they're saying.
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They're saying if there's a contested election and Trump contested.
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Is that what they were saying?
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That the military will grab the president.
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And they're just introducing that idea to you now, because that's how you fight a military
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state, is with the military grabbing the president.
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Total invention of reality.
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So, this is something that came from an interview that Biden did on The Daily Show, where he
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said that he was pretty convinced that Trump would refuse to leave if he lost the election.
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Biden said that he was convinced that the military would recognize that that was a huge
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problem if Trump lost the election and refused to leave office and would escort him out of
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the White House.
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He's not saying that there's going to be a military coup, just that in the event that
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Trump doesn't recognize the result of an election he lost, Biden has faith that it would be
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handled appropriately.
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I'm not as full of faith, but I don't think that Biden's position is that outlandish,
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either.
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No.
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I still think there's a decent chance that worrying about Trump not stepping down if
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he loses is a little premature.
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There are plenty of circumstantial reasons to be concerned about that, and I've come
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a lot closer to worrying about it myself, but it just seems like such an explicit and
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unretractable move that I have a hard time imagining someone doing it.
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Not respecting the result of an election is something that couldn't be walked back or
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undone.
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It would necessitate a very severe reaction, whether it be the military taking him out
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or outbreaking hostilities in the general population.
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I think it's an okay thing to consider and think about what to do if Trump does that,
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but it's just such a monumentally bad thing that I can't operate on the assumption that
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it will happen.
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Yeah.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's a distinction there of like, yeah, it's a possibility, but obsessing and thinking
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that is what's going to happen.
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Part of the reason that I think this is that in 2015, Alex and all his ding-dong followers
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were convinced that Obama was going to call off the election and install himself as the
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king of a new Islamic caliphate of America.
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It looked silly to us because obviously it was, but it felt real to them at the time.
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And I know that Trump has given far more reasons to suspect that that's the way he would behave.
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I would say at least three.
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Yeah.
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There's an attack on voting rights that's been going on, an attack on the prospect of
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mail-in voting.
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There's that.
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You know, there is a ton of-
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A complete inability to recognize the legitimacy of any of his political opponents.
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Sure.
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No, no, no.
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I'm 100% on board that there is circumstantial reason to be like, okay, let's think about
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this a little bit.
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But I just don't want to fall into the same trap as Alex and his buddies.
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I don't know.
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I mean, the thing about that is if that were to occur, no one has any idea what would happen
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beyond all hell would break loose.
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Right.
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And there's really no point in planning for all hell would break loose because what the
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fuck do you, what's the plan?
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Well, on an individual level, I think you can think about what your plan might be.
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Right.
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That might be a good plan.
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So in this next clip, Alex discusses how, you know, everybody's got to, got to get the
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word out about Biden and his plans for the power of you, the audience of activists being
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active and realizing this is an information war and taking the live feed of this show
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from man.video or newswars.com forward slash show and sending it out to your email, sending
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it out to your text message, calling people physically and saying they admit the coup
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plot.
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That means they're getting ready to go live.
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They have to get their people to hear that, to believe it's legitimate.
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Two years ago, I briefed the secret service on their plan to remove the president.
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They didn't even know that globalists were on TV saying they were going to kill the president
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like Phil Mudd of the CIA to prepare the deep state to believe they can actually make the
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move.
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You have to telegraph the announcement to create false confidence.
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I think Alex just debunked himself pretty sure.
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He's trying to argue that by Biden going on the daily show and saying that if Trump loses
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and doesn't leave office, he believes that the military will escort him out of the white
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house.
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Alex says that him saying that is the equivalent of globalists coming out and announcing their
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coup coup plot.
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They got to go on TV and make these announcements to ready the crew.
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To reinforce this argument, Alex brings up how he briefed the secret service about a
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Phil Mudd interview on CNN that he believed to be the same thing.
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The announcement of a coup plot to kill Trump.
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Here are the two problems with this.
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One, that Phil Mudd interview is three years old.
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At press time, no plots to kill Trump have been launched.
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That doesn't seem like it was the announcing of a plot at all, mostly because there was
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no plot and nothing happened.
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The second problem is that Alex talked to the secret service about this Phil Mudd interview
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and they did nothing about it, which clearly indicates that the secret service did not
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think that this was anything serious and was really just a guy talking shit on TV.
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You would think if there was an actual instance of Phil Mudd announcing a coup on TV and Alex
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briefed the secret service about it, Mudd should have had some consequences, right?
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Yeah, you would think.
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I would bet anything that I own that as soon as Alex left that meeting with the secret
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service, they all lost their shit laughing at him.
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I would assume at least one jerk-off motion was made.
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Right.
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I decided that I was kind of bored with Alex and I wanted to spread my wings creatively
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a little bit.
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So Jordan, what I've decided to do is take this occasion to write a script of what I
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imagined that briefing in front of you, there is a script, and I apologize in advance for
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my terrible handwriting.
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Your lines are highlighted.
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You will be playing the role of secret service agent and I will be the role I was born to
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play Alex Jones.
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So scene, interior, old school interrogation room, lit by a single overhead light, shot
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in black and white, sloppy man with a thick neck sits at a table sweating, holding a candy
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cigarette and a cup of cocoa he's pretending is coffee.
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I understand that you have information about a plot against the president.
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You bet I do.
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This thing goes all the way to the top.
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I'm talking Rothschilds, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, you name it.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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Why don't you just start at the beginning?
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You ever watch CNN?
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Oh, sure.
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You know Anderson Cooper?
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That guy is the last living Vanderbilt.
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That's not true.
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And secretly, he's working for the CIA and he helped cover up Sandy Hook, but my lawyer
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told me that I should pretend not to believe that last part anymore.
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So Anderson Cooper threatened Donald Trump.
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Not directly, but you know who you should really take a look at over at CNN?
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That guy Brian Stelter.
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He looks like a demonic pedophile.
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Honestly, that seems unfair, sir.
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I mean, look.
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Look at the way he smiles.
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It's full of hubris.
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Here, look.
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I brought a picture of him.
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Alex hands the agent an eight by 10 glossy Stelter, then attempts to light his candy
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cigarette.
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Okay, so Brian Stelter threatened Trump.
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Just look at him.
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Guys, they're evil, I tell you.
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He wants your kids.
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And the only way we can defeat him is by supporting the Infowar.
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And look, I know I said that the Easter special was going to end today, but we've got to extend
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it until Tuesday.
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Mr. Jones!
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Sorry, sorry.
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Slipped into a plug there.
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I have this rare neurological condition called semi-voluntary spontaneous advertisement syndrome.
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That is not a real thing.
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It absolutely is.
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And I have three chiropractors who pretend to be doctors who I've paid to tell me it's
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real.
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They've all prescribed me iodine to manage the condition based on redacted studies from
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the University of El Dorado.
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The science is good, but the globalists forced the researchers to retract or else they would
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reveal the location of the Golden City.
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Okay, so what does this have to - did the Golden City threaten the president?
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I actually know where the Golden City is from my years of studying the globalist white papers.
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It's under Mount Rushmore.
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Mr. Jones, I think you're thinking of the plot of National Treasure Book of Secrets?
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Predictive programming!
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Alright, I'm going to have to ask you to focus, sir.
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Now we called you in because you claim to have information about a credible threat - credible - against
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President Trump.
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Right, right, right.
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So on CNN, this guy Phil Mudd, he said government was going to kill Trump.
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Are you sure that he wasn't saying that the difficulty of governing was going to kill
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Trump?
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Not that a vague entity called the government was going to literally kill him?
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Absolutely not.
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This was a direct threat.
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Mudd was sending up the alarm, rising the army of demonic globalist minions to heed
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the call.
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Okay, if the government is going to kill Trump, how does an army of demonic globalist minions
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factor in?
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These are demonic globalist minions who work in the government.
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Like at the DMV?
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The DMV is lousy with globalists.
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I think I see.
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Thank you very much for your time.
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One more thing while I'm here before I leave.
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Can you get Bill Gates to stop wearing pink sweaters?
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It really pisses me off.
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Get out of my office.
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And scene.
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Beautiful.
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Thank you.
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Beautiful.
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It's been a while since I wrote a sketch.
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All right.
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All right.
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I just think what really happened, I'm going to walk you through the creative process.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Everybody wants to see into your process, you know, like let's really get into the way
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that you make things.
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I just had an image of Alex sitting under a light and it made me laugh.
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I was just thinking about how hilarious that would be.
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It's like, uh, I know of a plot to kill the president.
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See, I imagine even in this scenario, he still has to wear handcuffs.
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Like they still, he's not convicted.
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He's not accused of any crime, but they're like, okay, if you're going to tell us about
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a plot to kill the president, we need you in hand.
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And one of those Hannibal Lecter maps.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So Alex talks a bit about Phil Mudd on this episode and so he, I think Alex is getting
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into dicey territory here.
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And when Mudd went on TV and said, we will kill this guy, the CIA will kill this guy,
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the government's going to kill this guy that was done to Telegraph confidence to their
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networks embedded in the government that they were trying to get other people to create
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false whistleblower reports, information to the media, and to then finally get somebody
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else to muster up the courage to poison the president, to shoot the president, to kill
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the president.
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That's what this is, is, is agitating to hope somebody else does it.
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Alex won't use the term because he's mocked the idea when people have talked about him
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doing it.
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But what he's trying to say is that he believes that Phil Mudd is engaging in stochastic terrorism.
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Mudd went on TV and said that the government was going to kill Trump, hoping that someone
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would hear that message and take it as a sign that they should do it themselves.
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That's what Alex is saying.
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This is really murky territory for Alex.
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And honestly, I think it's the last thing he should be introducing as something he's
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accusing his enemies of.
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The problem is that he does this all the time.
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He constantly talks about how his enemies should be killed and how they're all going
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to burn in hell, far more graphically and explicitly than anything Phil Mudd said.
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If Alex is directly asserting that Phil Mudd's comments on TV are legally actionable to the
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point where he met with the Secret Service about them because Mudd was hoping someone
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was inspired to attack Trump because of his comments, then Alex is asserting that he himself
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belongs in prison.
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Okay, so you're saying that he's accusing somebody of a crime that he regularly commits?
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Oh yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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Generally when Alex talks about this stuff, he says that Mudd's comments are part of the
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lesser magic stuff, where the globalists have to announce what they're doing before they
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do it in order to get magical power out of their rituals.
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That's stupid, but at least it's not self-damning.
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This angle where Mudd was trying to inspire lone actors to carry out his goals is a really
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bad direction for Alex to go down, since it heavily implicates his own behavior.
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I would have advised it against him if I were in the studio, I'd be like, bail, bail, stop
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it.
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I mean, the only thing that saves him is I don't think I've ever heard him not buy his
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own bullshit as immediately as he was saying it.
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Like as he was speaking, he was like, you don't believe a goddamn word of this, you
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idiot.
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You know it and I know it, stop it.
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So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's pointless.
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It's just Alex saying that his wife found a nail salon that had a no Christian sign
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on it.
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Oh, good.
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I can find no stories about this.
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I don't want any Christians in my nail salon.
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I can find no stories about this and I have no idea what he's talking about.
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So anyway, we get to another one of the big things.
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So there's the, there's the coup on Trump that Biden announced on the Daily Show.
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Yes, which is where you announce a coup.
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There's that narrative.
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You got to have Trevor Noah giving you the sign off before you coup.
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Yeah.
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He gives you the round third.
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Yeah, he gives you the, yeah, keep on going.
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So that's, that's a big narrative.
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And then another one that he's got going is that Biden, not Biden, Bolton, John Bolton,
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has his book coming out.
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Yes.
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And so Alex is not happy about this.
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Of course we have Bolton coming out with his new book claiming impeachable offenses across
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full range of Trump foreign policy.
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Well, the impeachable offense would be being stupid enough to bring in John Bolton, but
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see they all lied to his face.
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He's a Fox news watcher.
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They told him they supported his policies and Trump let in the Trojan horse.
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That's so funny to hear Alex pretending that Trump just got suckered into hiring Bolton
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because he's a Fox news watcher and they gave him bad advice.
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If that's true, then InfoWars gave Trump bad advice too, because Alex supported the
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nomination of John Bolton.
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But the word is on Bolton, he knows all the connections.
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He knows all the players in the state department, in the UN, in the Pentagon, and that he will
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be an apparatchik or a tool, a, you know, effective munchkin to use his words, to carry
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out the policies that the president wants carried out and that he won't sit there and
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leak information.
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That was from March 23rd, 2018.
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And the word on the street that Alex is talking about came from Roger Stone, who Alex directly
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says is a 30-year-long poker buddy with John Bolton.
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So I guess that means Roger was giving Trump bad advice that convinced him to make a treasonous
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hire.
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Well, yeah, that sounds right.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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To Steve Pechenik's credit, he was opposed to Bolton explicitly and consistently, but
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Alex did not listen to him.
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Alex thought Roger was more important at the time, so he took Roger's angle, that Bolton
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would be a tool that Trump could use against his shadow enemies.
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All that didn't work out so great for everyone, and now Alex is trying to pretend that he
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was always on the right side of this one.
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Sure.
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He was always against Bolton.
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Hated him from the jump.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Of course he did.
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This is ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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Hated noted national hero John Bolton, who, when in a position of power to do something
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about those many impeachable offenses, was like, nah, go for it, I'll write a book later.
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Can I suggest that there's no harm in just saying like, hey, look, I thought that this
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was going to go a different way, turned out it didn't.
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What's the problem with him saying, yeah, I was led to believe that John Bolton would
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be someone who would be effective as an apparatchik, and it turns out the information that I got
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was wrong.
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That's not how it turned out.
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Nope.
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He's psychic.
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He knows everything.
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There's an absolute inability to just be wrong.
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Psychic knows everything.
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Even when he's wrong, he's right.
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Trump is always right.
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Everybody fooled him, even though he knows everything and is the smartest person on the
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planet.
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Yeah.
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Trump said he should hire John Bolton, but even God is wrong sometimes, but not Alex.
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It's a mess.
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I don't, I don't, it's gotta be exhausting.
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It's children.
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Yeah.
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It's just children.
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So Alex is still also mad about, oh, Phil Mudd.
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He complains about him.
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I thought he was mad about empty dirt.
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Come on now.
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No.
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Come on now.
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No.
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All right.
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He complains about Phil Mudd a lot.
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Okay.
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Phil Mudd, who's actually related to Dr. Mudd, the only other person convicted in the conspiracy
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to kill Lincoln.
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He's actually related to the Virginia Dr. Mudd involved in killing another president.
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Don't you hate Lincoln?
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So we've touched on this a little bit before, but the only evidence I can find that Phil
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Mudd is related to Samuel Mudd is a 2014 tweet from Jake Tapper.
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It might be true that they're related or it might not be.
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I don't know.
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I'm not really that concerned.
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There's a sex therapist named Wendy Friesen who I've heard of.
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I'm not related to her.
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There's a comedian named Dawn Friesen.
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He's not a relative.
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People have names.
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It doesn't always mean anything.
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And if I one day find out that I am related to Dawn Friesen, I assure you it won't change
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my life at all.
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Yeah, and either way, I really don't think I would care what his great-grandfather did
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or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that has any effect on...
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I don't care what my great-grandfather did.
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I don't think you can genetically kill presidents.
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You're not genetically predisposed to killing presidents.
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Alex does think that you are your ancestors.
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Oh, that's true.
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So anyway, to Alex's larger point here, Samuel Mudd was not the only other person charged
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in the plot to assassinate Lincoln.
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For instance, David Herold was in the barn with John Wilkes Booth when he was cornered.
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Herold surrendered, but Booth did not, eventually being shot by Boston Corbett, the subject
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of one of the best episodes of The Dollop.
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Herold was convicted and sentenced to death by hanging, along with three co-conspirators.
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This is kind of a big deal, because one of them was Mary Surratt, the first woman executed
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by the US government.
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Three other conspirators were sentenced to life in prison, and one got six years.
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Dr. Mudd was pardoned a few years later, since it wasn't really clear if he was in on the
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plot or may have just been the doctor who Booth knew, who treated someone who was in
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distress who showed up at his house, being unaware of what had just happened.
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It's not like there was Twitter in 1865.
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Alex is supposed to be this big history buff, but here he is clearly demonstrating he has
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absolutely zero awareness of the details of one of the biggest events in US history.
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I strongly, strongly suspect that Alex only knows about Dr. Mudd because of Nicolas Cage
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bringing it up in the second National Treasure movie, because if Alex knows about the Lincoln
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assassination enough to know who Samuel Mudd is, it's impossible that he wouldn't know
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about Mary Surratt.
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It's ridiculous.
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Well, I mean, what are you paying attention to women in history for, Dan?
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Fine, David Herold.
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Well, what's a guy with a name like Herold doing there?
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Come on, man.
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It's just Phil Mudd.
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Those two things cannot be simultaneously true in my mind.
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It's ridiculous.
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Of course not.
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If you're a news listener and you think Alex knows what he's talking about, you have to
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ask yourself, how could he fuck up something that that seriously and that casually?
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How can he assert a historical claim that's absolutely and easily falsifiable and then
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just move on with it?
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The fact that Alex is so comfortable fabricating information about history, like that Mudd
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was the only other person convicted in the Lincoln assassination, that should be a serious
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red flag.
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If Alex is capable of that kind of lie, what else is he asserting as definitive fact that
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he's just making up a lot of Trump, a lot of Thomas Jefferson quotes?
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Spoiler alert.
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It's almost everything he talks about.
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Pretty much.
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Also, Dr. Mudd wasn't from Virginia.
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He's from Maryland.
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Oh, man.
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Anyway.
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Back then, what was the difference?
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Really?
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Different states.
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Yeah.
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You know, in the 1860s, though.
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Right.
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What even was a state?
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What the fuck is wrong with this dude?
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You don't know.
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I don't know.
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Why even?
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Like, you could just say Samuel Mudd was mixed up in the Lincoln assassination.
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He has a serious psychosis.
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You don't have to make a false claim.
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No, it is a legitimate pathology.
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It was legitimately just John Wilkes Booth and Samuel Mudd.
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Why?
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Why would it just be those two?
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Why?
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Granted, there was another guy who was along with John Wilkes Booth, but he wasn't involved.
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No, they didn't convict him of anything.
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There was the guy who tried to kill the vice president, but he wasn't involved.
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You don't need to worry about the vice president.
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That's not even a crime these days.
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Come on, Dan.
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Everybody knows you get one vice president.
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Everybody gets one.
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So stupid.
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Oh, man.
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Now, this next clip is just good, clean thought.
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Okay.
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I'll just get right to it.
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At about 8.30 this morning, I felt a psychic explosion burst, and I've learned to never
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doubt these.
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Something really good happened at 8.30 Central this morning with some devastating victory.
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I'm not sure what happened.
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We're going to find out.
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I think you're going to later learn, mark this date, you see the enemy launch everything
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it's got today, fire, fire bolt, and that's just Hitler's in the damn Reich bunker right
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now.
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That's the new world order, not Trump, but I tell you, I just like, I'd never felt energy
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this strong or this pure for like 30 minutes.
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I was basically, it was unbelievable.
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Something really good happened.
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So 8.30 on Friday, something amazing happened and Alex had a psychic explosion.
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Get him into a home.
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Get him help.
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What is that?
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I don't know.
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What is that?
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I think it's made up.
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I think he's just making stuff up.
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Oh my God.
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Either way, he needs to be in a home.
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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But then the other thing that I think is really funny is now whenever Alex mentions Hitler
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in the bunker, he has to be like, that's not Trump.
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That's not Trump.
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Trump was in the bunker, but he's not Hitler in the bunker.
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It's a different thing.
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I know that they look the similar and they're just going for an inspection.
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He was just looking at it.
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He was just looking at it.
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Yeah.
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Fucking.
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I do like that.
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That he is so self-conscious.
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Yeah.
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For years, he's been fine talking about Hitler in the bunker, but now he can't do it.
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That getting reflexively defensive.
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That's so sad.
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That's so sad.
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Awesome.
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Trump has made all of these people look as pathetic as they always have been.
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It's such a bad.
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It's so bad.
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So sad.
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God.
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Poor Lindsey Graham.
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Back to complaining about John Bolton here.
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And Alex takes a swing and he whiffs.
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Trump has done incredibly good things, but I tell you, one of them was not hiring Bolton.
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I mean, at the time that happened, Steve Pacinek flipped out on air and he's got a lot of great
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sources, but we know Bolton is a nasty little turd blossom.
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So here's another example of Alex- I agree with that.
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No, you don't.
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Here's- And you-
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Oh, no, that he's a nasty turd blossom.
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No, you don't agree with that.
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You're showcasing the exact same ignorance that Alex does.
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He doesn't understand the words and what they mean.
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He thinks that saying turd blossom here is an insult because the word turd is in it,
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but there's a very specific term being used in a very specific history.
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Turd blossom was a nickname that George W. Bush affectionately gave to Karl Rove because
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of his masterful ability to take a piece of shit and bring a flower out of it, metaphorically.
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Turd blossom is also- it's not an insult.
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It's a term that really only has the connotation of admiration, particularly in the realm of
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politics.
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It's also the term free flower that grows from manure, but that too isn't a good basis
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for an insult.
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I get that Alex wants to compare Bolton to shit, but the flower is the contradiction
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of the shit, not its extension.
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A turd blossom is something that's beautiful, growing out of something shitty.
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Alex just heard the term and assumes that it's something pejorative, much like you did,
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because it involves poop, but in proper context, calling Bolton a turd blossom is complimenting
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him.
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Alex almost never knows what he's talking about.
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Yeah, but the modifier nasty.
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The modifier nasty kind of overtakes that.
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I don't think it does.
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I understand you don't, but even if it is a flower that blooms out of a turd, if it's
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nasty, it's still a nasty flower.
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In the realm of politics, that term only applies to George W. Bush talking affectionately about
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Karl Reagan.
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Who is a nasty piece of shit?
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From your perspective, but not from George W. Bush's.
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George W. Bush is a nasty piece of shit.
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Right.
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Then you could call him that.
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You wouldn't call him a turd blossom.
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Of course I wouldn't.
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No.
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That's just a bad- It's a compliment.
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I mean, it's just not imaginative.
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Whatever.
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Yeah.
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I disagree with your perspective.
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Fine.
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And I'm definitely right.
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You don't like modifiers.
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So, on a recent episode, Alex accidentally did a satanic ritual with a skull, some roses
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and a chessboard that he didn't realize had occult significance.
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And he's had to change scenery a little bit.
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Of course he has.
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And so now he has a new prop that he wants to try and get people's attention with.
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Okay.
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Also, if you're a TV viewer, you're probably asking, who is that a statue of shit right
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there?
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That's right.
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Well, that is Robert E. Lee.
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What a shock.
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Robert E. Lee?
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That's right.
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Robert E. Lee.
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Robert E. Lee.
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Alex has a Robert E. Lee statue hanging out.
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Oh boy.
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Oh boy.
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What a strong message to send.
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We've replaced the skull, roses and chessboard with a statue of Robert E. Lee.
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You know what?
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I was being too oblique.
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Let me be more out front.
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What I wanted to say with the flower, the skull and the chessboard is Trump is a racist.
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He wanted it to be deeply esoteric as opposed to this, which is a little blunt.
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It's very blunt.
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A little blunt.
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It's very blunt.
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So this turns into a thing where Alex, I don't think he's being defensive, but at the same
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time he's trying to rationalize why he has a statue of Robert E. Lee.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And I can tell you in advance why he's doing it.
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Because he loves slaves.
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What?
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Because people are tearing down statues and he's trying to get in on that act and trying
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to be like, hey, all you people who are mad at statues, look at me.
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I have a statue.
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Why don't you get mad at me and give me free press?
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Come take down this statue.
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That's largely the strategy.
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But Alex has a different rationalization for why Robert E. Lee is cool.
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And I think it's bullshit.
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I mean, that's why people like Robert E. Lee, I mean, show poppers have nothing on this.
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The North loved Robert E. Lee.
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There were articles by the thousands over the years and just everything, because he
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fought armies on average four to one, five to one and won for three years.
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Buddy, the North loved racism too.
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With no factories and no munitions and finally no shoes.
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And so people respected that.
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So of course they named battleships and aircraft carriers and military bases after Southern
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Generals because...
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Why?
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In Russia and in Japan.
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That doesn't sound right.
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In the UK.
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You know who they study in military affairs?
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Robert E. Lee, General Stonewall Jackson, because the Civil War is a very important
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time.
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Short, short, short, buddy.
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And people love the underdog.
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And the Civil War was not about slavery, it was about Western expansion.
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I could, I can suggest a group of people who are even further an underdog and that would
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be slaves.
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Yeah, well, everybody loves an underdog unless the underdog is the person on the...
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When you...
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In chains, underdogs aren't chained, I don't know.
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I think generally speaking in terms of like the big picture, fighting without shoes is
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not why people love Robert E. Lee.
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Are you sure?
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Yeah.
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Are you sure?
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I'm pretty sure.
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And also the Civil War is definitely about slavery.
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100%.
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To prove the second point, I'd like to cite my unimpeachable source, one of the greatest
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historians who's ever lived, Alexander Emmerich Jones.
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I remember this part.
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Yeah, if you've ever listened to our show or listened long enough, you'll notice that
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Alex has two different stories about the Civil War that he likes to trot out depending on
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what point he's trying to make.
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Whenever there's a situation in the world where black people are rightly asserting their
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right to equal treatment and the conversation of the history of post-slavery America comes
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up, Alex tries to invalidate all of those arguments by saying that the Civil War was
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fought to free the slaves and, you know, when you really think about it, black people should
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thank white people for ending slavery.
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Well, white people did end slavery.
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That's his argument in order to rebut those arguments.
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However, when it comes to defending the Confederacy, whenever Alex needs to justify his absurd
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support of Confederate generals without sounding racist or trying not to sound racist, he's
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quick to point out that the Civil War wasn't about slavery.
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They'll often say that it was about states' rights or the economy, both of which are just
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code words that people use to deny that the Confederacy seceded over slavery.
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Sure, it was states' rights, but the particular right of the state that was in question was
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slavery.
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They even put it in their whole little secession thing.
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Yup.
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They put it front and center.
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Sure, it was the economy, but the economic concern was being able to maintain an economy
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that relied on slavery.
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Well, free labor does help things.
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It's all obfuscation.
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And in this instance, it's no different.
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Alex is saying that the Civil War was about Western expansion.
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What do you think he means by that?
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Could it possibly be about whether or not newly admitted states to the Union would be
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slave or free states?
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The Missouri Compromise advanced slavery west of Missouri, which would be a problem for
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any of the Confederate states, people who are landowners there, who might be interested
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in asserting their state right to have an economy that worked off free labor of slaves
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in any of that new land.
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So Western expansion, yes, of course it's an issue, but at the bottom of it, also slavery.
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Well, there was slavery.
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Alex knows damn well what the Civil War was about, and you can tell because he's explicit
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about it being about slavery when he wants black people to shut up and thank white people
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for ending slavery, ignoring the fact that he claims to literally be his ancestors, who
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he said on many occasions fought for the Confederacy.
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Yes, but they were fighting for states' rights to keep slaves, not for slavery to continue
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to exist.
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It's very... it's a little much.
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It's constitutional.
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It's a little much.
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It is constitutional, and that might be an issue.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gets to talking more about Robert E. Lee.
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Sure.
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He's going on a real jag.
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That's what I want to hear about.
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Yeah.
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I want to hear lies about Robert E. Lee.
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This one confused me a little bit about what Alex was trying to say, and then I figured
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it out, but he expresses it very poorly.
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Robert E. Lee.
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Why?
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Why?
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Why do you hear about Robert E. Lee everywhere?
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What's the point?
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Like, okay, the commander of the Confederate forces, because he's one of the greatest generals,
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like Alexander the Great or George Washington, he, by the way, Washington had no genetic
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...
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What?
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What?
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What?
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Prodigy.
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Progeny.
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The family that Washington adopted was his family.
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So he grew up in George Washington's family.
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His father was a famous top general in the Revolutionary War.
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I mean, he did not want to split the country in two.
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And so that's what I'm saying is Robert E. Lee was an amazing person.
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I have no idea what the fuck Alex was trying to say there, but it sounded a lot like he
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was saying that Robert E. Lee was adopted by George Washington, which isn't true.
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It kind of feels like that.
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Yeah.
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George Washington had two adopted children, John and Patsy Custis.
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Also, just for fun, it would be impossible, because Washington and Robert E. Lee's lives
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didn't overlap.
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Sure.
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Robert E. Lee married Mary Anna Randolph Custis, who was the granddaughter of John Custis,
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and thus the step-great-granddaughter of George Washington.
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Direct lineage.
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I'm not sure that Alex understands this lineage or how meaningless that is, but the fact that
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he's speaking so unclearly here makes me pretty worried that he doesn't know the full story.
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I think what it means is that Robert E. Lee knew George Washington.
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Right.
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That's the only explanation.
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And he wanted to keep the country together.
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Exactly.
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That's what Robert E. Lee was about.
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When Robert E. Lee died, Robert E. Lee took on the responsibility of running the Custis
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family plantation, which did include slaves.
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His father-in-law's will said that the slaves were to be freed within five years, and after
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five years, Lee did free those slaves.
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But he did wait until the last minute.
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There's a good piece in The Atlantic that deconstructs the myth of General Lee being
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a good man who just wanted to keep the country together.
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Oh, he just wanted to keep the country together.
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He was not.
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He was a monster.
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Oh, right.
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Lee's heavy hand on the Arlington, Virginia plantation, Pryor writes, nearly led to a
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slave revolt, in part because the enslaved had been expected to be freed upon their previous
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master's death, and Lee had engaged in a dubious legal interpretation of his will in order
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to keep them as property, one that lasted until the Virginia court forced him to free
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them.
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He didn't want to free the slaves that he had that he had inherited, but they made him
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do it.
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The court forced him.
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Are you telling me that a Confederate general didn't want to free his slaves?
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Well, that's one of the things that all these people talk about is like, he freed the slaves
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that he inherited.
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Yeah, the courts made him.
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No, I know.
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He wouldn't have.
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No, I literally, because I remember, because I read that piece in The Atlantic, and I remember,
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I had this huge flashback to when I was in third or fourth grade hearing about the Civil
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War and hearing really, really nice shit about Robert E. Lee the whole fucking time.
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It was insane to me, and especially looking back, like, wait a second, why are you guys
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spending a quarter of this Civil War thing on how great the losing general was?
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Because he kind of have to.
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I don't know.
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You don't.
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I don't know.
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No, he sucked.
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He was also a cruel asshole who split up families, which was actually against the standing tradition
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at the Custis Plantation.
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That was his innovation.
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Well, he's, you know, he's a great general.
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About this Atlantic article, quote, Lee's cruelty as a slave master was not confirmed
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to physical punishment.
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In Reading the Man, the historian Elizabeth Brown Pryor's portrait of Lee through his
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writings, Pryor writes that Lee ruptured the Washington and Custis tradition of respecting
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slave families by hiring them off to other plantations, and that, quote, by 1860 he'd
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broken up every family but one on the estate, some of whom had been together since Mount
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Vernon days.
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The separation of slave families was one of the most unfathomably devastating aspects
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of slavery, and Pryor wrote that Lee's slaves regarded him as, quote, the worst man I ever
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see.
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And that's not all.
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When Lee was in charge of the Army of Northern Virginia, they invaded Pennsylvania and, quote,
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enslaved free black Americans and brought them back to the South as property.
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Pryor writes that, quote, evidence links virtually every infantry and cavalry unit in Lee's army
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to the abduction of free black Americans with the activity under the supervision of senior
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officers.
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Robert E. Lee is at best a horrible piece of shit, and Alex is not defending him because
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he's good at battle strategy.
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It's because he was the commander of a racist army that tried to overthrow the American
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government because they couldn't own people anymore.
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Fuck him, and fuck Alex Jones, too.
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This is ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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It's revisionist nonsense.
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It's embarrassing.
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You're talking about a guy who's worse than normal slave owners.
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That's how awful this guy is.
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The worst human beings in the world own people, and he's worse than them.
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Christ.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gets to talking about how he's in trouble, right?
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I mean, there's going to be some bad stuff coming if the globalists get their way, right?
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I don't know.
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I guess Robert E. Lee is going to come back.
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So you've got these commies in the Seattle autonomous zone, right?
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Sure, sure, sure.
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They're doing their thing.
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Yes, yes.
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African warlords.
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But that's a distraction.
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Okay.
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Yeah, okay.
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I told you civil war is coming.
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They're just getting started.
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These people are the cover for MS-13, Chinese operatives and others that are actually lazing
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targets all over the United States, literally and figuratively, to make their move when
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they overthrow and kill Trump or drug him up and say he's had a mental breakdown or
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a stroke.
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They're going to hit a lot of people.
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You're less crazy.
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No, they're going to hit talk show hosts, members of the Senate.
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They'll kill Ron Paul.
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They'll kill Ted Cruz.
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They'll kill Ron Paul.
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They'll try to kill me.
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I'm telling you, I've analyzed their attack profile.
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I'm not saying don't.
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He's analyzed their attack profile.
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So he's figured out that they're going to take out talk radio.
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All right.
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All right.
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So Bundy's, Occupy National Park.
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Totally fine.
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No Chinese involvement there.
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Mao Hu or refuge.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely no problem.
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No.
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Some people without guns, some of them with guns, but the large majority making art.
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They're the ones that the Chinese have chosen to assassinate Ron Paul and so on and so forth.
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They're the distraction for the kill teams to come in and take out Ron Paul, Alex Jones.
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Wait, so all of their security system is like, we got to figure out what's going on with
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Chaz before we can ever deal with anything.
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I guess so.
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And the Chinese are like, ha, ha, ha.
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They sent their security teams to Seattle.
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It's convoluted.
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Okay.
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So Alex gets pretty mad about Tim Cook in the middle of this episode.
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For sure.
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And he starts yelling about China and how they treat Muslim Uyghurs and so here's a
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little bit of that.
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You treat them about as bad as Robert E. Lee treated them.
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Nope, sorry.
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Apple benefits from forced Uyghur labor at its iPhone supplier factories in China.
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According to explosive report Business Insider, Apple, Samsung and Sony among 83 global brands
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using Uyghur Muslim forced labor.
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In factories, reports finds independent.
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They call that a Robert E. Lee.
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Uyghur companies allegedly using link to Muslim slave camps, but they got Colin Kaepernick
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and he's got a bozo haircut.
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So it's like, oh, okay, wait a minute.
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Kaepernick's got a bozo haircut.
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So we need to bow down to him.
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I'm like, okay, I'm not going to ask questions, I mean.
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So Alex is right.
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I mean, not the bozo haircut thing.
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That's just him being a bigot.
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But massive.
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Alex is right that there are very serious issues that need to be addressed about the
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state of China's treatment of the Muslim population.
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But I will absolutely never trust Alex to be a credible voice on the subject.
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He can be right about a central point and also be completely wrong and detestable at
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the same time.
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One of the main reasons is because he doesn't mean what he says.
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Here he's trying to use the plight of the Uyghur population in China as a prop to attack
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China, pretending he cares at all about the actual people he's talking about.
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But he doesn't.
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He doesn't give a shit about these people past the point he can use them as a blunt
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instrument to attack his imagined enemies.
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And I know that because of this, something he said less than a month ago on May 26th.
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But from Michigan to Texas, from London to Los Angeles, from Rio de Janeiro to Berlin,
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there are call to prayers.
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I don't like to call them Chinese, but they don't put up with that because they know it's
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a group trying to take them over.
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Hey, Chai comms, do your thing.
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Don't try to take me over.
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When Alex wants to attack Apple, he cares very deeply about China's treatment of Muslims.
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When he wants to spout his outrageous Islamophobia and convince his audience that Islam is trying
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to take over the West, he encourages China to do their thing.
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It is a really good case example for why, even if you kind of agree with the main point
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behind what Alex is saying, you can't ever let yourself agree with him.
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He doesn't agree with himself, and if you ever consider him an ally because of a point
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you seem to agree on, it'll look like a mistake in hindsight.
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All the left-leaning people who thought that Alex was cool because he attacked George W.
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Bush come to mind here.
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No matter the subject you're passionate about and find yourself thinking Alex is right about,
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whether it's Bush hating or opposition to civil asset forfeiture or denouncing China's
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treatment of Muslims, you will always be able to find a smarter, more credible source than
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him on every single issue.
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People who actually care, and they mean what they say, who are more than just intellectual
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sadists trying to take advantage of an audience.
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That's all he's doing.
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You can't pretend to care and then be like, yeah, China, do your thing, because Islam's
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trying to take over.
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You can't do both if you care.
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It makes me think so much of this forced deference given to so many politicians by the media
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and the rules of reporting, wherein you report what a politician says or something like that.
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There's no accounting for bad faith.
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I don't believe a fucking word Mitch McConnell says.
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Even if Mitch McConnell said literally everything that I believe straight into a camera and
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said we're going to do it, I don't care.
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I don't believe a thing you say, you're acting in bad faith.
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You don't get the protections of your words when you're clearly acting in bad faith.
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That's what Alex does all the time.
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That's kind of weaponized by him.
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Exactly.
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It's weaponized by all of them.
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Because he can't really argue with the conclusion that something needs to be done about Muslim
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treatment in China, but you can't sign up for his version of it, because it'll take
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you down a road that you don't want to be on and isn't what you signed up for.
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This leads to what I describe as an intensely homophobic discussion about Tim Cook, because
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he's complaining about Tim Cook and Apple working with China, so he plays a clip of
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Tim Cook, and it just turns into him sort of preoccupied with the fact that Tim Cook
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is gay.
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It's great.
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It's very childish.
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Cool.
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Here, let's hear from Tim Cook real quick.
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Virtuous signaling, hopping around like, he doesn't have a pink sweater or an afro.
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He's gay.
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He's like, I run slave camps, but I'm gay.
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That's his cover.
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Here it is.
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Hello, everyone.
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The unfinished work of racial justice and equality call us all to account now and always.
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Let's start over a minute.
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I'm on 12 hits of ecstasy right now.
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Here, let's start over.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Listen, I like men's weenies, so it's okay if I run slave camps.
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All right?
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Okay.
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Here.
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Let's hear from Tim Cook again.
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So I mean, he's working on a new impression.
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It's as bad as others.
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I think he's working on Tim Gunn, not Tim Cook.
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I mean, that's a terrible impression.
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It's deeply homophobic.
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Incredibly.
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It's childish.
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It's disgusting.
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Yeah.
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And he managed to offend, I mean, that was bigotry on just every level.
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What's interesting to me is that it goes on for a while.
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We're not going to listen to more because it's just basically the same thing over and
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over again, just saying weenies and stuff.
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But every time he gets to the end of the riff, he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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He hasn't been doing that as much lately as I used to see, like he used to do that quite
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a bit, like just going off and being like, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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It seems like that's a behavior that I haven't seen in a while.
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Probably meaningless.
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It doesn't signify anything.
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So he does that out to break, and he comes back.
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And man, he's going to hit some of these big topics.
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There's an article up on info wars dot com.
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It's very cringe worthy.
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It's very hard to watch.
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I'll be honest with you.
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I tried to watch it twice, only watch it halfway through.
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We're going to do it together.
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But this is a bunch of Hollywood stars looking completely inauthentic.
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You would know more funny than a plastic banana, the three dollar bill telling us about how
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they're bad and they're white and they apologize and they're going to be better now.
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If you don't like that video, why are you wasting your time?
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What's the point?
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Dan, I don't like that video.
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Did you have any instinct to bring it up and waste our time talking about it?
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No, I didn't.
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Okay.
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It wasn't the thought I had.
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That seems like a healthy impulse.
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I wasn't like, here's what I'm going to do.
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I'm going to derail this conversation completely and then just say apropos of nothing.
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White liberal celebrities hate him.
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I mean, he's pretending that there's world leaders listen to his show and he's taking
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his time to complain about celebrity videos and sure, there's plenty of criticism.
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If you want to tweet something, go for it, but it just seems like trivial compared to
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what he should be covering based on how he views himself and the fact that he's like,
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I tried to watch it twice, why?
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I haven't tried to watch it once.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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I don't need to watch it.
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I get it.
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I got through about five seconds and I was like, nah, that's all right.
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I don't know.
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Who knows?
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I don't care.
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Who cares?
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Now, Jordan, this blew my mind.
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I lost my mind in the middle of this episode.
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What?
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Were you reading about Kristen Bell?
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She's a landlord.
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Did you know?
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I heard that.
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I saw a tweet.
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It was on Twitter.
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I don't care.
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Again, we're not going to waste our time talking about it.
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Hold on.
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I want to derail this conversation.
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I don't care.
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I'm just kidding.
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I still don't care either.
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This blew my mind.
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Yeah.
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I don't even know, I'm not even going to try to set this up.
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I've not heard this theme music coming in and out of break, but it was very out of place.
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What is happening?
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Crank it up.
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Soak it wet, she's naked.
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All right, we are back live broadcasting worldwide.
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And we are joined by Lee Stranahan.
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Really appreciate investigative journalists.
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He's worked for Breitbart.
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He's worked for the Huffington Post.
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He's worked for the cable or else.
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That juxtaposition is fucking amazing.
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He comes in with shake it like a salt shaker.
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Man.
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It's a family show.
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Man.
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He's like skeet so much they call her Billy Ocean.
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Man.
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If Info Wars had a booty, it'd be big.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got Lee Stranahan.
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If you had any principles, Alex, you would not listen to music.
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Just period.
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You're not allowed to have any because it's not for you.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I should say this.
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I forgot earlier.
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I just remember this because of the family show with the shake it like a salt shaker.
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This is the out of context drop from today's show.
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Imagine being an orgy with John Bolton trying to get a heart on.
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I mean, just come on.
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Sorry.
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Family show.
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Delay that.
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You should probably have delayed that.
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Yeah, that'd be smart.
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I love the idea that he's sitting around thinking about what it would be like to be at an orgy
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with John Bolton trying to get a boner.
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It's like one of those high school camping trips, you know, everybody's sitting around
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looking out at the stars and somebody's like, do you believe in God?
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And the other guy's like, do you ever wonder what it would be like to be in an orgy with
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John Bolton trying to get a heart on?
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It's an interesting glimpse into Alex's mind because I can tell you that I have not considered
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that.
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Now I am considering it.
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How's it going?
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I could probably do it.
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You think so?
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Yeah, probably.
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But if it wasn't John Bolton, like if it was just someone who looked exactly like him,
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I think I'd be fine.
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But if it was John Bolton, I'd have a lot of questions.
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There would be a lot of issues.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'd have a lot of like, hey man, let's talk about a rock.
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If we're going to do orgy jokes, I mean, come on.
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If you're at an orgy with Roger Stone, one, you expect to see him there, so you're already
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prepared.
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How do you do?
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Even if you're like, I didn't know Roger Stone was going to be at this orgy, you were like,
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Roger Stone was going to be at an orgy.
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Even if it's like a mask affair, you're going to see the tattoo.
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You see the Dick Nixon, and you're like, that's a dick I need over here.
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Yeah.
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So I mean, yeah, that was derailing a little bit on my part, I apologize, but we needed
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to hear that out of context.
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Deeply disturbing.
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Deeply disturbing.
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Any time Alex says it's a family show, we have to hear it.
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It's got to be.
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So anyway, Lee Stranahan's on, and his interview sucks, but he wants, he's explaining that
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like the globalists, what they're doing is they're taking this domestic issue, which
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would be, I don't know, black people being murdered by the police, and they're escalating
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it up.
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They're amplifying it.
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I'm just confused how you can amplify that.
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We don't really need to talk about that, because I don't really care about his argument.
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You'll see why I kept this clip in pretty quick.
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They take an internal issue, they gin it up, right?
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America's got a history of slavery and everything else, like the student trees, but they know
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that they've been able to take over the civil rights movement.
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As you know.
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Well, that's what any anthropologist or sociologist does, what the CIA's main mission is.
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Alex is eating.
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He's just having lunch.
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So Lee Stranahan's on, and Alex is just eating a sandwich.
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How do you not feel incredibly disrespected by that?
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I mean, it's very rude.
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I can't imagine being on a show-
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And it's like calling Xfinity.
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I really-
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Assholes.
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Yeah, I can't even imagine it either, because your time is valuable.
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Comcast is the Alex Jones of companies, in that they should be removed from this earth.
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Brutal.
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Yeah, I mean, if you are somebody who's like Lee Stranahan, you fancy yourself an investigative
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journalist whose time is valuable, who's like, I am a professional, I do serious work, you
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talk to Alex and he's just chowing down.
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Just chopping on a sandwich.
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It's rude.
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That is rude.
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It's fucking rude.
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I understand doing that to callers.
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I also understand doing that to Lee Stranahan.
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I'd be fine with that, but it would be more fun if it was an open sign of disrespect.
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As opposed to this thing he's trying to keep on the low.
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I'm not saying that the people that Alex talks to don't deserve all the disrespect in the
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world.
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Anybody who agrees to be on Infowars that isn't that guy who hits stuff with a hammer,
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and I don't actually know if that guy is cool or not, but he seemed to be fucking with Alex
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a little bit.
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If you go on Infowars, if they ask you to come on and you make a joke out of it, I don't
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hate you for that, but everybody else, fuck off.
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You deserve to have a sandwich eaten in your face.
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Exactly.
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That's my point.
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I'm not going too soon.
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I forgot that Lee Stranahan has a gigantic new project coming up, and I respect the hell
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out of this, and I probably want a booking.
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And I got a new show called Populous TV.
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It's 11 o'clock on my Twitter feed.
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People can watch it there.
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That's not a TV show.
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That's not a...
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That's...
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Woo.
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Yee.
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They're streaming on Twitter.
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Wow.
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So Alex talks to Lee for a little bit, and it's mostly about Soros is running Black Lives
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Matter and all this, like, Soros runs Antifa.
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Sure, sure.
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Now, things get real interesting because Steve Pechenik shows up.
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Okay.
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So now Lee Stranahan is there on hold, but Alex needs to talk to Steve, and they talk
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about...
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Alex is going to introduce him here, and it's just so pathetic.
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This is just pathetic.
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Welcome back.
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I'm Alex Jones, your host.
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I really appreciate Dr. Steve Pechenik popping in on short notice, but he's really been critical
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and almost broke with Trump when he brought in Bolton.
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I agree.
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It was an insane idea.
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But Bolton...
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He didn't then.
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...he himself lied to him.
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Alex can't cop to the fact that he was fucking wrong.
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Can't do it.
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Yeah, he can't do it.
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Can't do it.
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It's insane.
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He's introducing Steve, and Steve was 100% against Bolton back then, and trying to convince
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Alex to be against Bolton.
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Of course.
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And Alex did not go along with it.
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He can't acknowledge it.
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He cannot ever.
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It's cowardly.
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You can never lose.
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You can never be wrong.
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You can never admit for one second that you had something to learn, because when he was
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14, he knew everything.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Steve is on, and he's got some shit to talk about John Bolton.
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Sure.
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Why not?
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Victory lap for Steve.
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That is kind of what I was looking forward to.
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Well, it's not as good as you think it is.
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God damn it, Steve.
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But there is something that's pretty great.
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Okay.
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There's always a vulnerability that a political appointment can manipulate, and in turn, the
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president manipulates the candidate.
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So you have a mutual kind of manipulation.
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In this particular case, Bolton knew a lot about Trump, and my suspicion is his sexual
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activities, which Bolton had been part of many, many years ago in New York.
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I'm not going to go into further detail.
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Please don't.
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I disagree.
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One, first, I'm going to need you to confirm or deny whether or not there was a video of
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Reagan getting pegged.
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And two, I want to know more about what Bolton was doing at that fucking orgy with Trump,
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and I want to know why Stone wasn't there.
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And I guess... I don't know, man.
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I guess Bolton's got sexual blackmail on Trump.
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Of course, Steve-
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Does anybody not have sexual blackmail on Trump?
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I don't know, man.
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I feel like I do now.
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It's exasperating at a certain point.
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Just like these sorts of things are like, yeah, all right.
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I mean, I guess if Bolton does have sexual blackmail on Trump, you'd assume it's in that
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book, right?
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I mean, he's accusing him of treasonous stuff.
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Well, I mean, there's treason, and then there's revealing that you cheated on your wife, okay?
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There is a code of ethics among men, man.
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You're talking bro code?
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Yeah, exactly.
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You see that mustache.
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You know that's a guy who lives by bro code.
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Fucking nonsense.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what this is, but I like that Steve's still swinging.
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I like the idea that sexual blackmail is way more damaging than revealing treason.
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I do appreciate the blackmail standards are very different.
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Well, I mean, to be fair, I haven't read that book that Bolton's putting out, so I don't
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know.
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Maybe there is something about this swinging in there.
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Could be.
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But also maybe Bolton doesn't want to bring that up because it would implicate himself
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in it.
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Could be.
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Probably not.
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Well, it seems like he should be implicating himself in the very treason that he's describing
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on account of him watching it and not doing anything about it.
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If you're committing, if you watch somebody commit treason, don't you commit treason?
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He told the lawyer, I'm not part of this.
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If you, if you're like next to somebody committing a murder and they were talking to you about
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it and they're like, hey, I'm going to go murder this guy and you were like, all right,
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how can I help?
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As long as that's called accessory, as long as you certify with a lawyer that like, I'm
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not, I'm not with this murder.
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Don't remember the Nuremberg trials working like that, but okay, okay.
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So Steve's got this idea that Bolton's got sexual blackmail on Trump.
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This doesn't develop any further, but Lee Stranahan, still there, he comes in with what
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I think is the most exciting piece of juicy right wing media gossip.
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This is exciting, huge if true.
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So Lee's talking about like when he says Steve, he's talking about Steve Bannon who apparently
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hates Alex and has been trying to destroy him.
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Good.
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And Alex, I don't know if you know this, but this is firsthand from the people involved.
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Steve is working with Mike Cyrenovitch and Jack Posobiec now.
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I know people who were working directly with them and they told me their goal was to destroy
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you that they wanted, they wanted to get all, and this is at the time when those guys were
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on the network and somebody who worked directly with them said they would talk all the time
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about destroying you.
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So Steve, you could not be more right.
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And again, this is not conjecture.
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So when he says Steve, you couldn't have been more right.
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Talking to Stevie Pete.
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Right.
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But he's also, what he's referring to is that Steve was talking about like, hey, these people
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they're all envious of you, but envy is not the same thing as jealousy because envy is
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I want to be that person and destroy them and not make them able to do right.
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It's very big, flattery stuff, flattery stuff.
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And now Lee is coming in.
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It's Steve Bannon is working with Jack Posobiec and Mike Cyrenovitch to destroy Alex Lee.
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He was eating a sandwich while talking to you and he put you on hold for stupid to talk
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about Bolton having sexual black praise this man.
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How dare you?
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I just love some fucking spine.
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If I could do this all over again.
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And we had a third person here.
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I would love to have written a script of Bannon, Jack Posobiec and Mike Cyrenovitch trying
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to take down Alex.
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Oh God.
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Okay.
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So what I'll do.
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Okay.
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Right.
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What I'll do is I will go to Comet Ping Pong Pizza and pretend that I find demonic activity
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there and then I'll go get on Info Wars.
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Love it.
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Love it.
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Do you have more Coke?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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More plans.
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What a, what a group of losers.
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Why is it that all of these fucking shitty losers are, Oh God.
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I can't, I mean, obviously the potential of other people getting hurt in the process is
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high.
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Yeah.
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But I love the idea of there being like a rogue's gallery or a justice league of right
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wing shitheads trying to take down Alex because they think that somehow they'll be like take
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his place or something.
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Oh God.
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See, now all I think of more is just how awful the Algonquin table would have been if it
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was filled with right wing douche bags.
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Would it?
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Seems pretty unsufferable.
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That's fair.
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That is fair.
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So, uh, I mean we're, we're just about at the end of this, like it really ends up becoming
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a thing where like Lee and Steve are just sucking up to Alex.
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They're just flattering him to a level that is almost uncomfortable.
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It's kind of gross to listen to.
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That's disgusting.
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Yeah.
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Lee is correct.
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I mean, I, I believe everything you say, and I'll tell you why, Alex.
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The one thing you have to understand my dear friend is that you create envy, not just jealousy,
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but envy.
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Out of nowhere, you come in.
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To be clear, this is Steve restating his point.
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Yes.
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He's already said this.
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He's already said this.
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Yeah.
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Okay, great.
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You're very funny and at the same time, you're very serious and you created, Oh my God, millions
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of people who enjoy what you do.
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That is the basis of threatening the sociopaths who cannot create a company who cannot do
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anything but self aggrandizement and process.
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And that was abandoned.
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But you have to understand the same way, the same reason they hate you or Trump or Stranahan
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or anybody exactly why they hate America because America is a control.
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There's other reasons.
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Oh boy, people not liking the group of people you just mentioned.
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That is an acceptable thing to say if you are absolutely shit faced and there is no
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one else around and you are at a bar and it is four a.m.
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You can be like, you know, people think it's because they envy you.
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Yeah, man.
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It's because I know you're sick because they, they're not just jealous.
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It's because you're too good, man, because you're too good.
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Yeah.
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That's why you're not going to get JFL too funny.
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Yeah, it's it's silly and oh, God, I wish I would have got this clip, but it was in
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the middle of stuff that just wasn't worth.
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It would have to have been either like a two second thing or a ten minute.
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Exactly.
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But Steve was talking about how he started Tom Clancy business because he's talking about
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like these business.
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Maybe he is drunk.
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He's talking about all these businesses.
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He started as like I started Tom Clancy Enterprise.
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Now that's some drunk shit right there.
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That's the same night.
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The same night.
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Like you're too good.
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I don't think it's I don't think it's drunk coming from Steve.
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I think it's more like he's just unhinged.
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He's just insane.
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He's just a crazy person off the charts.
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So we only have one last clip here and he's cut.
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Alex has cut Steve loose because he was just there to shit on Bolton.
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Right.
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Of course.
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And I have to believe I mean, I don't know if this is the truth, but I have to believe
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that Steve called Alex and was like, I mean, come on.
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I was right about both.
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I'm going to come on and gloat.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Pretty short.
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Pretty short appearance.
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But Lee Stranahan still on for a couple of minutes afterwards.
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And he has this really shitty idea.
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The thing Trump has to do is do what the base wants him to do.
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Pardon Stone and pardon Manafort, especially because Manafort actually knows what's going
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on with Russiagate.
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He was trying to warn Trump.
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And that's why they got.
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I was thinking he should bring Manafort back on the campaign to piss in their face.
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That's exactly right.
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Yeah.
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That's what they should do.
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They should pee in people's faces.
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I don't understand these guys.
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Does he know Manafort personally?
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Lee or Alex Lee?
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I don't know.
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I don't understand why anybody it's possible they've like run in similar circles at some
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point.
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Yeah.
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That's just the only thing used to work at Breitbart.
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So like Manafort did.
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Yeah.
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No, no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because otherwise it doesn't make any sense to me why you'd want to pardon why you would
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say out loud pardon Manafort.
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I think.
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I mean, if I had to be a cynical minded person about it, I would say it's some of the same
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reasons that you'd want to pardon Roger.
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And that is that they know a lot.
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Totally.
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You don't want them to spill the beans.
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Right.
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But I mean, that's if you're in that kind of, I guess, but it's their whole economy
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blows up if a lot of, yeah, that's true.
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The whole, not the entire right wing ecosystem, but particularly that of Alex and the sort
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of associated figures, a lot of the like sycophantically pro Trump, especially people who associate
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with Alex, cause Roger was basically running in for a while.
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Totally.
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Because people really have a vested interest in someone like Roger never being honest.
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Right.
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And I'm sure it's similar, but without the like media focus with Manafort, like he knows
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a ton of shit.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's just wild to me because it's like, there's yeah, he did that shit, man.
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You know it.
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And I know it.
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He's a bad dude.
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And if you don't think that he did that shit, don't stick your neck out for him.
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He's done all the other shit.
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Like if it weren't for Trump being president, we could have gotten him on so much more shit.
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Yeah.
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But again, I mean like Roger and Manafort both work together and they're consulting
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for dictators for years.
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Just disgusting human beings.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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I just, yeah.
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They should have been prison when they were nine.
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I don't know how they got to this far.
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Maybe 19.
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19 maybe.
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All right.
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I don't want to put minors in prison.
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No, I just can't imagine stone being.
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Roger, by the time he was 19, was working on Nixon's campaign.
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So like, yeah, get him in there.
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Get him in there.
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So I mean, we come to the end of this and this episode is, uh, you know, it is what
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it is.
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I'm fascinated by the fact that on Thursday, Alex was so preoccupied with this video from
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this, uh, this nurse in New York and it completely falls off on Friday.
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He's now preoccupied with an interview Biden did on the daily show.
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It just, there's, there's little coherence.
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There's, there's a very minimal amount of coherence to this.
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You can't, you can't be that obsessed with that video and then just forget about it the
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next day.
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Like at least mention it.
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Right.
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Does he mention it?
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I don't, I mean, I, I feel like I would have remember if he did, if he did, it was in such
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passing that it was not important at all.
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I just don't understand these people.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty, it's pretty tough to, but I think, you know what I think, I think there's a possibility
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that he recognizes that like, there's nothing new on that front today.
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It'll be there.
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It's still there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I can see that.
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It can sit for a while.
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Let's focus on trying to build something out of this Biden daily show thing.
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Right.
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Right.
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See if we can get that to the point where it's another plate we're spinning.
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Right.
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I think that there's a possibility for that, but it does like as a listener, it does feel
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a little bit jarring for it to be like, they're killing fucking people in hospitals and this
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video proves it.
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And then it just be like, Hey, Biden's on the daily show.
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There just can't be strange.
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If you, if you have any belief in what it is you're saying, there's no possible way
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that you can spend a whole show on all doctors are murdering people for money.
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And then the next day be like, did you see what Biden said on the daily show?
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It's very weird.
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That's the biggest story in the world of doctors are murdering people.
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It should be.
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And that's kind of a tell that they're not serious.
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Exactly.
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I honestly think that the most important thing on this episode is that Alex thinks that only
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two people were charged in the assassination of Lincoln.
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You think so?
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You think that's the most important thing?
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Because it's so telling.
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It's so dumb.
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It's so revealing of how little he knows.
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Like I would say that the assassination of Abraham Lincoln is, I mean, there's a lot
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of very important events that shaped the American history, but that is a gigantic one.
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Oh no.
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You know, his vice president was really trustworthy.
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A lot of people wanted him to really, he did a great job.
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I think with sober eyes and clarity, you could say that it's probably top 10.
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I don't think anything went wrong with that.
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So I just think it's remarkable that he doesn't know that story at all.
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Yeah.
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You know, I didn't know how many people were charged.
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I understand I don't know the specific number.
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And that's why I didn't say, and the only other person charged in this, because I didn't
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know.
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But I would assume, I don't know if you would know, like I don't know what everyone's awareness
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base is, but I would assume that you would have known that it wasn't just two people.
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Oh yeah, no.
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There were, there were, I mean, Mary Surratt is also a very important thing that's taught
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in history.
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She's the first woman to be murdered by the United States government.
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And it's such a piece of the story of the Lincoln assassination that it seems impossible
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to educate yourself on the subject and not know about her.
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And if you know about her, then you can't say that Mudd is the only other person who
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was charged.
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And if you know about what happened after the assassination, you know that Booth fled
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with Harold.
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So you know that like there's another person who was with him that got captured.
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Like you can't think that.
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Alex is just fucking stupid.
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And when you see things like that, that, to borrow from a philosopher named Alex Jones,
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that's a Rosetta Stone through which you can see all of Alex's bullshit.
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Everything.
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Just make stuff up.
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You got it.
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Confidently.
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Exactly.
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Confidently makes things up.
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That confidence is terrifying.
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Yeah, it is.
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So we'll be back.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com, Dan.
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Yes.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
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Yeah.
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And we're also on Facebook.
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We are.
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And if you could please find a local charity or a bail fund or anything that you can do
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to help in the areas that you are in.
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Indeed.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Thank you so much for being with us today, and we'll see you in the next one.
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