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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a person color I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed
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We are Dan. Hi Dan. Yep. Did you come prepared with a question this time?
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I was actually wondering where we are at on hot sauce watch hot sauce. What do you mean by that?
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I mean, you know, we occasionally check in with oh sure you feel bad sauce. Well, I'm still on the
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No, I bought this Carolina Reaper puree, right? We talked about dabbling in that a little bit my parents in a little Christmas package
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They sent over these
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yellowbird sauces
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Austin I think it's an Austin company and I think most of them are trash. They taste pretty bad
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It's not that they're too hot, but they taste pretty bad
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Oh, no offense. All right. All right. Well, we lost a sponsor. I
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Think that one actually we could have gotten if we'd really shot the mood on that one
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Well, I don't know how to answer that and honestly
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I think a little bit of my my heat adventures and stuff like that is on a little bit of a hold
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because
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To let the listener know I'm planning on moving in the beginning of April and getting a new apartment
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One of the things I'm going to focus on there is building a little garden inside my apartment. Oh and try and grow some peppers
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And two things make my own kind of hot sauce. See if I can figure that out. Okay, that's an adventure
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I'd like to go on that sounds fun. Yeah, just for shits and giggles
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Like grow from seeds, yeah, so I want to explore that that's awesome and then also make my own Giardiniera
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I don't know what that is. Yeah, you do. You know, I'm just kidding people outside of Chicago may not it's sort of
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How do you describe it sort of a relish II kind of thing? Yeah, I would say yeah, it's a condiment thick
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It's a condiment like it's oil
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Like it's a spicy. Yeah, there's like peppers cucumber not cucumbers like celery carrots cauliflower
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I think that most Giardiniera sucks. It's too busy
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But it's very busy and thick you could narrow it down to like two or three ingredients and make like a really good
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Condiment, so I'm gonna explore. I think you just described a relish though
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I'm gonna explore those things once I get into a new apartment. I'm very excited about that. That's great. Yeah, that's on the horizon
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All right, hot sauce watch. I'm looking for I'm looking forward to see
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You won't try them they'll be too hot for you, of course they will but I want to I want to experience it vicariously through your
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Taste buds sure that'll be fun. All right. Um, so also before we get into any business today
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First of all, this is sure I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me about Alex
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Oh, I got a little blowback about my car wash story
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That I told on our Monday episode
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I believe
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So people someone in the group in our Facebook group go home and tell your mother you're brilliant pointed out that there's a mr
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Show sketch about car wash. Oh my god. Did you do know you live a mr
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Show guy or did you see did you lift I did not and I want to be very clear about this because I
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Constantly question myself about like am I remembering that sketch right? Right, right because you're aware of sketch
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Yeah, absolutely
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I have to second-guess my memories and I can say with categorical certainty that that story that I told
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Absolutely happened to me and was not just a misremembering of that mr
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Show sketch. All right, it really really terrifies me though that people will think I just ripped off mr. Joe
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People's faces I remember the feeling of being in that car wash and being like you are
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Adults where any of the writers from Missouri? No, I like post saying wasn't from Missouri Paul if Tompkins
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I wasn't really sure that sketch. I think that they'd done that before I worked at that car wash. Oh shit
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I'm pretty sure that was in the 90s and maybe that's where your boss got the idea to do the sting
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I don't know if he was that hip anyway
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My point is I just want to make sure that people understand that I that really happened
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Anyway, I don't care
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It'd be more fun if you missed out on a secret friendship with your boss who turned out to love mr. Show. Yeah
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Anyway guys today we're gonna be doing something really interesting
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It's gonna be a slightly different present-day episode that we're gonna bring to you covering the span of January
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17th to 23rd. Whoa, not not fully though, right?
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All right. No, I I got that this isn't gonna be a 12-hour long episode
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No, certainly not and we'll get to exactly what the shape of that is gonna take here in a second
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What spelling a a r o n? No, I meant is it Aaron spelling? Oh, no, it's not. It's not neither
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I'd like to support these guys and maybe dance pepper farm
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God, man, I want to dance pepper farm so bad
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Yeah, maybe I could send out some of the peppers to people who donate to maybe I don't know. Maybe that's a possible donation
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Thanks to policy wonk Ian. I just learned today that Alex Jones show dot us redirect
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Our website. So thank you so much
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Thank you very much
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Oh boy, so Jordan play present-day
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I don't want to I don't I don't care about the present day much ever since Alex has shown his cards about
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You know being really into the idea of Trump
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Taking over a fascist regime. Yeah getting in his emergency powers in effect. So you can just act like a dictator
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I I don't really care much
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I don't like it doesn't charm me and at the same time whenever I listen to the show
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It's like what what do you think he's saying like choose anything that's happened
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What do you think his angle on it is we already know, right?
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He's so fucking predictable in the present day that I could do this show without listening to his show
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imagine a radio host
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from Spain
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supporting Charles de Gaulle
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Sure. Yeah, but yeah in the 40s. Well, of course what I'm more complaining about though is like
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We'll talk about it a little bit as it comes up on this episode, but like you had that kid
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from Covington
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School at the at the rally you got in the face of the Native American gentleman. Yeah, you have that situation
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What do you think Alex says you already know?
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Oh
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He said that that was a perfect encapsulation of the colonialist attitude that we've had towards Native Americans for some of her for our entire
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Existence you're being he was you're being you know exactly what he's I know exactly
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Knows exactly what he said about it when we go back to like 2009. We're seeing him support Somali pirates
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That's true. Yell at Marc Maron about how he wants to sodomize him. That's true. That's crazy. That's unpredictable
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We go back expecting to find X and we find Y when you look in the present day
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All you find is exactly what you expect to find. It's kind of a bummer. There's no novelty to it
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I'm not saying that we should recuse ourselves from you know paying attention to it
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But it just is awful like it's an it's an awful boring
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formulaic
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Non-fascist show that's all it is and it sucks. It seems like we should instead of doing full episodes
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About the present day. We should have like a check-in on each episode, you know, like here's what Alex said for this stuff
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Yeah, do you want to have a production meeting on air while everybody's listening?
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I see the problem with that is then I still have to listen to all of it in order to get those mini
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Glimpses, which is incredibly unsatisfying for me because now there's less of our show
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More
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The ratio ends up becoming more work for me for less of this and already my ratio is terrible
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Yeah, I don't want to get into that. That's fair
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So today what we're gonna do is we're gonna mostly go over the 23rd. That's Wednesday
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January 23rd 2019
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but there's a couple things that happened along the way over the course of this week on the 17th and on the 19th that I
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Think are very important and one of them
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One of the things that we're going to talk about is going to open up a conversation about whether or not it's even
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Appropriate for us to cover Alex in the present anymore
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That's an interesting conversation and we will see what that conversation looks like when we get to it
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But first here's an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones. I'm not Cobra Commander or Destro folks
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I'm Captain America. Okay, I
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Don't think the Captain America fought
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those guys
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Cobra Commander
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Goes GI Joe. Anyway, we start on the 17th and
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These are gonna be some trite things. We're not gonna cover much content from the 17th and 19th
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They're mostly gonna be Alex sort of descending into personal moments. Yeah, here is one
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I was kind of hoping he would tell us how he feels about the Avengers, you know, the whole thing does not Destro
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Did he think Age of Ultron was really a kind of a bad film?
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And how does he feel about does it relate to Ozzie mandamus? Exactly, sir. These are important questions
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Nope, instead he introduces new slang
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I'm introducing that into the modern vernacular my dead friend doubt. He's 33
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Went into the doctor got an infection died
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Ryan Baxter, he wouldn't cost me his little kid. I never heard anybody else a bull corny hot dog and
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But but but if something was like, you know, really bad or whatever he wanted to act like he was cussing
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He'd say ball corny hot dog. So I just introduced that here
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Like I think he probably invented that so there it is bull corny hot dog. That is clunky
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Alex's stealing from a dead friend. Yeah, this is never going to work bull corny hot dog. I
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I named maybe your three rappers that would be able to work in bull corny hot dog is Khalifa. No
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Fat man scoop fat man scoop. Yeah, he's a shout-out guy
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He's a hype man. If anybody can make that work. It's a it's a
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You see bone you see bone crusher out there like talking about how he's never scared that songs like a decade old
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And you got fat man scoop screaming in the background
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Remember who else fat man scoop with I forgot that
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You're you're not up on current hip-hop vernacular either. Mm-hmm. That's fair master P
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Master P probably tried worse. He has tried work that dozier thing didn't work out. He was ambitious for trying
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This is Alex Jones's dozier
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Just cuz it rhymed with soldier way to go anyway, this is trash man
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This is this is a it's sort of indicative of like, you know
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All right. Anyway in this next clip Alex talks about how he can't make a deal with the devil. You can't do it
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He's just in case that would be bull corny hot dog would absolutely they gave up a long time ago trying to threaten me
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Because I just can't make a deal with the devil and I don't think Matt Drudge has done that either
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I'm just telling you right now ladies and gentlemen
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That this country's in a civil war with a bunch of anti-american globalists running around bullying and threatening everyone they can
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So I only put this in because he like always talks about the globalists threatening him
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Yeah, so the idea that he's saying I can't make a deal with the devil. So the globalists have stopped threatening me
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it's really a counter to pretty much everything he complains about and screams about all the time and
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The idea that he can't make a deal with the devil will be important later
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So that is a little bit of a setup
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On air he becomes a blues musician and as everybody knows you have to make a deal with the devil in order to to do
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Well, exactly. Um, no, it's it's something else entirely
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But that that was in his sort of breakdown of that story that came out about Cohen giving payments to people to
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cheat online polls yeah in the lead-up to the 2016 election that made it reflect or appear that more people
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Believed that Trump won the debates than they did and one of the polls that is in question that may have been
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rigged by this outfit is the Drudge poll of
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Trump's performance in the debates. Uh-huh. And so Alex is trying to be defensive about his hero Matt Drudge and
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And deflect this story like why did you believe Cohen like man? All right, whatever. We'll see how this shakes out
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How about that that whole thing about the polls?
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That was a big no for me every time I saw that one like shocking report Cohen
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Influenced polls. I was like, hey, you know who else can influence polls a bunch of dudes just clicking a bunch of times
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It's fine bots. Yeah, sure. It's fine. I don't think it's fine. But I also think it's like well, let's see
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Let's see what more there is here at this point
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I don't really know if we I don't think if you I don't think you and I have enough to go on to have a
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Real firm stance on this but Alex does it's nothing because he's predictable and defensive, right?
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I think my biggest problem with it is I want my villains to be super. I don't want them to be pathetic
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Losers, do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean. You're not gonna get what you want
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I know which is the problem times
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You get what you need by the who that was a masterpiece song, wasn't it?
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Oh, no, okay, never buy who who are great big fans of Alex Jones
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So in this next clip, wait, wait, wait, did you say that was the Rolling Stones? I know I was making reference to our last
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Okay, I gotcha
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Well, but the Rolling Stones version was the popular one, yeah
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Yeah, so in this next clip Alex
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I think what he's doing is he's doing an imagined dialogue between Trump and a chicken-neck politician and
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One of the reasons I think the biggest reason I'm including this clip in our in our little brief glimpse of January 17th is I think
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it demonstrates
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some mental
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Problems on Alex's part and they're not uncommon or unfamiliar to us
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But I think that they're more important today than they have been in the past
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Trump got in and he said we don't ship drugs in and we don't launder them anymore
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Well third Emma 13 in the Mexican mafia will kill us if we don't that's the changes like good kill them
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This is not our business is having junkies and human feces everywhere and high school kids on heroin it stops
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And by the way, we're not gonna feed troops into places
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So companies make money he goes you can all have super high-tech space weapons and tanks and missiles and ships
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You can all make your money, but it'll be where we're dominant. We don't just kill all our troops
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What they go? No, we don't want a bigger defense budget, but peace
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We don't want peace through Street and it's space force
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We want to continue to torture people and fund radical Islamic groups and overthrow allies and put bad
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radical Muslims
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You don't see the larger strategic plan of keeping the middle of the chessboard
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To stabilize you don't understand our grand strategy. Yeah, you understand your grand strategy running the damn world the ground you sacks of crap
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You ever heard of
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Straight shooting you dumb piece of crap. So built this country
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You know, it's not chicken crap. No, no lying built this cut bunch of filth
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Somebody's got to call these people's bluff. That means I get smashed flatter in a pancake good
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At least somebody I'll give you an example. I like a damn man around here to the bunch of
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a knuckle dragon cowards
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Everybody just shoot your mouth all about Trump all day. He's got a lot more courage and most of you combined
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It's just I mean he is expressing such
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projections such
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Confusion like this nonsensical two-sided the Socratic debate that's going on inside his head
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none of its based in reality neither side of the debate is based in reality and all it does is lead him to his
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Weird, I'm the only person who's a real man anymore. Yeah, which is I don't I don't I don't know
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It's just it's a it there's something going on in his brain. What's what's fascinating to me is that he is both
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Condemning parts of Trump's foreign policy. Yeah and blaming it on them
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Mmm, and at the same time supporting parts of other people's
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Foreign policy and also blaming it on them. See now this is what happens when you don't know anything
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Yeah, I was gonna say what what are you fucking talking about?
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And this is what happens when you have a super predictable editorial position like Alex does like he doesn't have any nuance
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He doesn't he has no as George Soros might put it
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Reflexivity he has no ability to adapt anymore to anything
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It's just respond defensively and attack whoever is not on board with Trump. Yeah, and it's pathetic and boring
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But I also I also think that there's more going on here
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Yeah, because if he's specifically talking about not supporting our allies
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then Trump's unilaterally and also reverse decision to pull troops out of
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Syria would be
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Absolutely abandoning our allies. Mm-hmm
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So he's against that right you'd think but that but that wasn't the foreign policy of the people that he's supposedly
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Who were supposedly puppet mastering his foreign policy by all accounts. Everybody just heard him go we're done and said, oh
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Okay, I guess and then six months later or like what two months later very quietly was like, yeah
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We're not gonna do that. Yeah fucking idiot
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Yeah
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But Alex Alex's version on that is that like Trump put his foot down and then the meddling globalists just didn't listen to all those
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So fucking meddling globalist you can write a narrative about any set of facts you want and that's kind of what's going that's ridiculous
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So we know from listening to as much Alex Jones as I have and telling you about it. Yes that
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Alex's childhood was fraught with
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Nonsense it was fucked up or fictitious, right? There's some elements that are clearly fictitious. We're about to get one
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But the things that we know that seem to be very consistent are
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That he you know had some feelings of alienation and at the same time
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Discovered none dare call it conspiracy the book by Gary Allen when he was 12 and it set the course of his life
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He saw through the what would you call it the conservative or not conservative the communist menace?
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Sure among us the conspiracy of the elites
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most likely the reason he even had none dare call it conspiracy on the shelves is because his parents were most like
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Hosting John Birch society me right and and that's the story that he's told of his childhood very consistently
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Yeah
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He's discovered that book at either 10 or 12 depending on the times that he's told the story
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Very consistent depending how smart he wants to seem. I have heard other accounts say that he found it in high school
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But from the times that I've listened to him he says 10 or 12 on a very regular basis, which makes this next clip
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incredibly impossible for me to believe I
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Can't sign on to people that are
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Intimately obsessed with abusing children and killing them in a vampiric. Oh there. I cannot be part of these people I
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am not in their system and
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You know their system almost seduced me I
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mean I think when I was about
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15
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for all intension purposes I was a
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a
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berserking Satanist
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Okay, okay
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And I mean I wasn't killing people or dogs or anything that kind of sounds like I sure have sex with devil worse for women
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Let's just say I've seen a few things okay in the one of the richest areas of the country where I grew up
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I've seen the dark side of the moon
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and by the who I
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I pulled out of being seduced by the devil by the time. I was about 16 about 12 to 15
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I was I was definitely there
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And boy, it's a hell of a drug
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I know why the Satanists are into what they're into
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Until you pull away from it and get contact with God because I was with God when I was little I got partially seduced
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But never gave over all the way what and wouldn't do bad stuff
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And then now I pulled away so far from the Satanism and so far away from these people
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But that's why they can't stand me because they know I've been
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Been super far in the spiritual level not all the crap and the rituals that they try to do to get where I got
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Well, it's not a good place. I got to it sound like I got some diploma. Where did you get to?
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Let me just say I've seen a couple things and
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Like why they that's why they fear me because I've already been down the rabbit hole where Aleister Crowley went when I was 13
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I already see Jack Parsons wife. I
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Think I think this is first of all bullshit, but then second
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I think what he's doing is just trying to give him himself another piece of the like hero's journey
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Yeah in terms of his backstory, right?
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All right, the sort of moment of doubt and seduction by the dark side and stuff like that. It's all it's all nonsense
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It's all in there. Yeah, so Alex has absolutely no right to compare his 12 year old self with Aleister Crowley
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So what is he even fucking talking about?
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Here's my feeling on it Crowley was a fucked up, dude
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I'm sure Alex also was at 12
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But Crowley traveled the world from like the late
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1800s early
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1900s when many people would have been too scared to venture far from the western shores
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He attempted to climb k2 which had never been scaled at that point
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He took his spiritual quest to the logical extremes traveling to Japan Sri Lanka India and Egypt to seek out instruction and knowledge
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You can say that Crowley was a bad dude, and I'm not gonna argue with that point pretty much at all or much
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But you can't say that he didn't live a life of curiosity and exploration something that Alex is diametrically opposed to
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Alex read an under-colic conspiracy when he was 12 and it blew his mind and ever since when
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Whenever he's gone to visit another country. It's only been to verify the pre-existing beliefs. He brought with him
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He's a pathetic example of a mind made up in childhood, which Crowley was the opposite of I don't believe Alex's story
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About being a Satanist from the ages of 12 to 15
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I think that's just him expressing his deep guilt about forcing women to get abortions
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But assuming he's not lying and he's seen what Crowley's seen
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Let's guess what Alex was up to back when he was 12 sex magic
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He would almost certainly have been into sadomasochism as that was pretty prevalent in Crowley sex life
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It's kind of a big deal
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Alex almost definitely would have been on the receiving end of sex with men since same-sex
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intercourse was a large part of the higher levels of Crowley sex magic teachings and he was famously
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Bisexual and was noted as the passive partner in those encounters
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He may or may not have been eating cakes of light which were the biscuits Crowley would make that contained menstrual blood or semen
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I don't think Alex has any idea who Alistair Crowley was or what he stood for
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He just knows that he's a good occult name to drop. Yeah, I was gonna say such bullshit
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I would say that most people don't know like Alistair Crowley is just your your touch point
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He was a goddamn double agent. Yeah
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He did he was an incredibly fucked up dude who did some really really fucked up stuff. Yeah, but also he
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his life is stuff of
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He hung out with L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons and the the whole fucking gang
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There was a they they called an elemental and shit like that like the red lady
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Yeah, fucking sure the lama you you got to give it up to him like with
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Kinsey and and those guys like Kinsey is somehow to me
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almost diametrically opposed to Crowley and that he was he was just like
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Sex is crazy. Let's do all of it. And you know, like Alistair Crowley never got into sounding damn
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That's true, I don't know that going on at that Abbey that's
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That's
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Nothing is more sex magic than shoving something down your pee hole. I'm I'll let you have that
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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna push back, but I I just what it's like Harry Potter's wand
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what I hear here is Alex desperately trying to give himself some sort of like
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appeal to
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Expertise and knowledge about these subjects and it's what it's what all these assholes do what they all do
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They everybody who has the stolen valor or stolen
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Accomplishment people on project Camelot pretending they were CIA agents captain like that captain mark Richards you betcha
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Yeah
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all of these people they have this fake piece of their past that they
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Employ in order to give themselves ownership of and and like there's knowledge that they have that you can't possibly
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Have of course not and so you should just listen to them and it's a manipulative trick that people use
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Furthermore here's a question for his
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is so so if he's in those
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He's not doing the ritual shit. He's I don't know what that means. I don't know. He's just doing the Satanist shit
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Yeah on a spiritual level. He got a diploma right from 12 to 15. Yeah
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Wouldn't that suggest then that he was totally fucking adults. Yeah, that's number one and number two
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I think if you're doing it for three years, you're in I don't know
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Probably once you're in your head. I think he's still in to be honest
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I think if you're doing Satanist shit for three years in your formative years
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That can't not leave some sort of a mark
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But again, I don't believe it. No, absolutely not because what kind of Satanist shit could he even he doesn't even know about Satanist
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He probably drew a pentagram when he was 12 and then his parents got really mad at him or something like that needs just
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Reacting to that emotionally first. That was a three year long pentagram though. That's true. He's not good. He's not good at art
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He took a while. Yeah, so that's that's a lot of shit. So
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Other than this on the 17th. There's not much else
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I want to talk about except for this next clip where Alex gets transphobic as hell
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And I think it's only important because we just had the news come out about the Supreme Court backing the ban of trans
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Surprise in the military and I think that we're we're entering a dangerous time
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What was the voting on that? Who knows? Oh, I'm gonna go with five to four
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We're entering a dangerous period of the the exclusion and the erasure of trans people from public
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Visibility and knowledge. That's their goal. Knowledge isn't the right word, but you know what I mean awareness having a place in society
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And so I think it's important to see the kind of rhetoric that Alex is putting out into the world
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About these sorts of issues on January 17th 2019
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I'm gonna have my wife put a little chain around my neck and I'm gonna wear some socks on my ears
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I'm gonna say I'm a basset hound and I'm gonna have her lead me into PetSmart and
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we need him to get a full shampoo nails trim, and we need his anal gland milk and
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I will just I'll come in like a dog on all fours and then I'll and if they don't
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If they don't I'm sorry
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This is well, this is really happening if they don't take me in the back and shampoo me and have the lady come over and you
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Know milk the anal glands lady for dogs, then they're they're they're bad because in England
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I'm not joking you get arrested or you get fired if a man comes in with a beard and a huge
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You know what and says you are going to
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Shush my cervix in a pap smear for cancer and the nurse
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Had to go on the mental health said okay, but when she but when she actually got his pants off she said sir
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I can't do it. You don't have a cervix that hospital was your ass is fired
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Well, you know what? That's it. I'm going to PetSmart Petco
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And I'm gonna come in there as a dog
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And it's not sexual assault to tell a woman to milk my you know, what gland I'm just gonna go in there and say do it
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Maybe he wasn't to sex magic. Maybe I was right
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Possible that sounds like something that he he's aware of dogplay. That's
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Yeah, I mean this is her pet play
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I apologize Alex is never going to do this, but it is his way of trying to to
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He thinks what he's doing is taking like trans identities and doing a reducto ad absurdium
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argument where you take the same logic and go to a
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Absurd extreme and it's nonsense and then further that story that he's telling about this nurse who got fired
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From this UK hospital. I assume he gave us all the information and we don't need to
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I'm pretty sure he's just making that up like he's probably referencing a Breitbart story from
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2017 about how a woman went into a clinic in the UK and
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Requested a female nurse and was upset that a trans woman nurse showed up in the exam room
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No one was fired over it and the NHS did apologize to the patient afterwards
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Which I don't know if that's even the appropriate thing to do but whatever
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Yeah, in terms of Alex being outraged about it. That should be where the story stops, right?
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It's also possible that he's referencing a sensationalized story out of the Sun
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Which is a tabloid about how public health guidelines were reflecting the people who legally changed their gender would be
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Invited to have health screenings that were appropriate for their their gender. Yeah, so if the story was about anything real
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It was about the bureaucracy of the health administration not othering trans people
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It wasn't about trans women demanding pap smears as a threat
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It was about routine reminders that are sent out to everyone to invite them to take care of their health care
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There's nothing malicious or weird in that story at all
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Though I can find no evidence. This is a real story
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I can find other stories that Alex doesn't want to talk about
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There was a case in 2015 where a trans man who wished to use a pseudonym
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Went to an ER where the staff debated his gender in front of him because the license that he was carrying wasn't up-to-date
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Quote they came up and she's like that's a girl pointing at me saying no, that's really a girl
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It wasn't business-like at all. I was a spectacle. I was a freak show at the circus
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It was definitely to draw attention to the fact that my outward appearance didn't match my identification
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Ethan Cicero who authored a study on trans experience at hospitals
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Expressed that his this experience is all too common and in fact is a threat to people's safety
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Saying quote from a safety standpoint. I don't know many people who would want to be in that position and stay in that environment
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so often transgender people may leave without receiving the needed care a
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2012 study by the National Center for Gender Equality found that
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19% of those surveyed had been denied medical care because they were trans or gender non-conforming and the 28% had reported
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Postponing care when sick or injured due to discrimination the story that Alex is telling is not true
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But what that story reinforces is a status quo that is killing people and I mean that literally in May 2015
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14 year old Kyler Prescott committed suicide after hospital employees and staff would not stop calling him a girl
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Tyler was a trans boy and was admitted to Rady's Children's Hospital in San Diego for depression and anxiety
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It was on a suicide watch to begin with but according to his mother the staff refusing to stop misgendering him caused a downward spiral
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Quote, they were making him worse. They were completely traumatizing him
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The staff knew the situation and one employee even said quote, honey. I would call you he but you're such a pretty girl
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That's kind of why I don't care about stories like the one there's one from July 2018 about doctor named David Macarith
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Who had his contract terminated at a UK hospital because he staunchly refused to accept the hospital's policy of referring to people by their preferred
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Pronoun he can claim all he wants that it's irrelevant to his ability to treat a patient
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but tons of anecdotal stories and
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Actual studies have been done that clearly show that this is not the case and that he's wrong
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Also that story about David Macarith cannot possibly be what Alex is referencing. All the details are completely different
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So that doesn't even track with his almost certainly made-up story
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so I I just my point here is that what Alex is doing is
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Bad that's how they but that's how they angle every trans issue
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Every trans issue is always the reverse of the reality
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Oh, do you want some man going into the women's bathroom where your child your little girl might be?
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well a
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trans man is
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Infinitely more likely to be abused when going into the men's bathroom than going into the correct genders bathroom
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Right. It's always the opposite. It is always the the reason for this protection is sexual abuse
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Towards trans people the reason for these protections are always because so much abuse abuse is levied
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Towards trans people and they try and turn it into somehow there
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Oh, they're they're firing people for not wanting to continue to abuse people. Like what the
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Talking when in reality the only story that I can find that even comes close to
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tracing to or tracking with what Alex is talking about is the instant is an instance of a
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Trans woman nurse who was made to feel bad about the interaction because the woman was uncomfortable with her
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Performing her pap smear right? I don't know which is it's just classic victim blaming behavior
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And that's that's what you that's what you expect out of out. Yeah, and you know, this isn't anything new
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It's not like hey look at Alex taking a weird turn, right?
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It's right par on course
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but it just it needs to be pointed out as you know as you see it that what Alex is doing is
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reinforcing a worldview that
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Is one of it's very dangerous right now. Yeah, and you can't he does not get a pass for that
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Now the we're gonna jump to the 19th now and we have one clip from the 19th
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And I think this will it doesn't let Alex off the hook for anything
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But I legitimately think that this clip might serve as an indication that we can't
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Talk about Alex in the same way in the present day anymore. I think he says something that reveals
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That he isn't
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It's close to that I think that we we see clear evidence of like real substantial
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mental impairment
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I've never taken because I don't need to take it start what I'm not gonna get into my own private issues
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But I go to 62% oxygen
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I always have my head next basically to form refs a major server surgery and almost die every night
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Most people die at 62% oxygen. I have near-death experiences every night. And and that's why I have DMT every damn night folks
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I don't need to take DMT with Joe Rogan fine. I just told you my private issues
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I've been to two different sleep studies. I want to do major surgery on me. I got a 20-inch neck. I got problems
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I gotta sleep basically sitting up with a mouthguard in my face. The CPAP machines don't work. So that's extreme
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Wow, so he's got some serious apnea. This is a big deal. What Alex is talking about here on the show is
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Incredibly serious. He's trying to be defensive about how he doesn't want to do DMT with Joe Rogan
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But in the process he reveals that he has severe sleep apnea that apparently is beyond what's treatable with normal procedures
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And he has to sleep sitting up. All that is really sad to hear since as somebody who's suffered with sleep disorders
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Earlier in my life. I would never wish that kind of thing on anyone even Alex at the same time
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It really starts to clear up some questions about why Alex is the way he is
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According to a 2016 study from the UCLA School of Nursing people who suffer from sleep apnea show
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Significant changes in their levels of two important brain chemicals. The first is GABA or gamma amniobutyric acid
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Studies showed that people with sleep apnea showed significant decreases of GABA
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Which is involved in integrating quote signals from higher brain regions to regulate emotions thinking and physical functions
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Such as blood pressure and perspiration
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UCLA described GABA as a chemical messenger that assists keeping people calm
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Functioning like a brake pedal and people with severe sleep apnea like Alex is describing have significantly lower levels of it
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Simultaneously the study found that while GABA levels are low levels of glutamine are significantly elevated in patients with sleep apnea
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Glutamine is the opposite of GABA and works as an accelerator
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Quote when glutamine levels are high the brain is working in a state of stress and consequently doesn't function as efficiently
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Paul Macy the lead researcher of the study said quote it's rare to have this size of difference in biological measures
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We expected an increase in glutamine because it's a chemical that causes damage in high doses
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And we've already seen brain damage from sleep apnea
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What we were surprised to see was the drop in GABA that made us realize that there must be a reorganization
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Of how the brain is working if Alex suffers from sleep apnea so severe that CPAP machines can't do anything about it
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It's a very serious condition and you would expect to see wildly out of balance levels of GABA and glutamine
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Accompanying that and you know what that very clearly explains his behavior
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It doesn't explain his bigotry, but in terms of the diminished brain functioning and the clearly out-of-control behavior
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We've seen from him in the last few years. It could all be the public presentation of brain damage
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He suffered because of his sleep apnea
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Obviously this doesn't let him off the hook for anything since we can see that his terrible beliefs and real stupidity
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Predates any kind of change in his behavior, but if this sleep apnea developed over the past few years
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It would definitely explain the flagrant inability
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He has to control his emotions and his out-of-control outbursts on the show all that sort of stuff that we're like
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Haha, isn't this crazy? It legitimately could be the result of brain damage caused by his severe sleep apnea
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I don't know how I feel about that, but there is some good news. They've also found in these studies. He'll be dead soon
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They've also found in these studies strong
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Indications that the brain damage caused by these out-of-whack brain chemical levels is not permanent
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Yeah
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So if Alex actually starts taking his health seriously gets that surgery that the doctors have recommended and going on the right path
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He could be back to being a run-of-the-mill
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Interesting racist in no time. Hey, it's possible
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I mean a lot of this stuff it really when he says things like this
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It gives you a window into like okay the way he's describing that doesn't sound like when he just makes stuff up
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Yeah, he seems pissed off to have to be talking about it, right? He accidentally brought it up and it gives you a window
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and that window is
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He probably has diminished brain functioning and completely
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Way out of normal range chemical levels for these
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Sort of restricting and accelerating. Yeah brain chemicals. It explains so much. Yeah, it's it's very much like he's he's on
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Adrenaline all the time like every single moment of his life. His brain is stressed out fighting for existence
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So I but at the same time you were you can't excuse him, of course
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No, no, no not at all
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But it is it is one of those things where like if you've ever had anybody in a traumatic car accident near you sure whose
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personality suddenly changed
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It's often it's really rare that it's a complete like 180 in who they are, right?
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It's almost always an acceleration and an expansion of those terrible character traits that they already had
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They just don't have anything inhibiting that behavior. Right? Right, right. So I mean, hey, he's always wanted a fascist
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But now you really want
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Yeah, and maybe on some like that kind of thing on some levels because of what we do
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You know parsing out the clues that he provides and you know getting context for the things he's saying
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Maybe this brain chemical imbalance actually really helps us
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Because he doesn't have those governors. Yeah, it restricts his
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Regulation of emotions his outbursts and stuff like that. So maybe he tips his hand more because of it
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But either way a statistical analysis of how often he drops
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The quiet part loud in the past three years as compared to it definitely sounds like more. Yeah, it does
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I don't know
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I I feel very weird about this because I don't know where this puts Alex on my feelings about this or at least in the
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Present day, but I feel very conflicted about it
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like if if what he's saying is true, then that imbalance does exist and
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His behavior does match with what studies have shown the behavior of someone who has brain damage from severe sleep apnea
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How it would present? Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that. I
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I don't know. I don't have an answer. I'm just conflicted
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Yeah, well the the other problem though is we can't a verify what he's saying is true. It sounds super true
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It's a it sounds true in the way that normally when he's lying about stuff
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He's over exaggerating it
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But this is like a I need to get through this
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Obvious fact and we just need to move on and we don't need to worry about it
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But I don't know why Alex would lie about something that makes him seem weaker, right?
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It's not in his character to embellish things that aren't sort of like
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it enhance his importance at the same time it kind of gives him a
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Like a pity card to play
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Yeah
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But I don't it doesn't feel made up and the reason that I the reason that I take it more seriously is because when you read
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These studies his behavior matches. Yeah, the outcome that would be the result of this, right?
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That's that's what I take as like the most
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Compelling piece of evidence right again. Like I said it could also match up with
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a CT Eve based on his based on football and and how many fights they apparently
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Yeah, yeah, like all of this stuff is is
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Probably is a little bit less predictable than these specific brain chemicals, right?
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the only thing about it is that so much of what we've talked about regarding him could be attributable to any number of
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reduced brain function or drug
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Exactly, which is why I'm fucking conflict. It's it's odd. Yeah. So for now my editorial position is
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He was fucked up. He is fucked up. We're not sure why we're not sure why
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I'm gonna I'm going to call myself out on it a little bit and with like a little
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Asterisk when we talk about him in the future. Yeah, and throughout the rest of the show that we might be being horrible
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But I mean until further confirmation yeah comes and no matter what I think that like
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You know, he's a father. He has kids. He needs to take care of that. So like my feeling on it is as
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entertaining as his outbursts are hmm
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I think the greater good is for him to listen to his doctors and get that neck surgery
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You have millions of dollars you have good health care. You can do that. Don't keep sleeping sitting up
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I don't know. I don't know what the info was
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Insurance packages. I'm telling you. I don't think he's really insurance. I don't know. He got he has it
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Anyway, of course. He does. I don't know man. So that that that was a real serious curveball for me. Yeah, that's tough
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Yeah
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And so now we jump to the 23rd where we will spend the rest of our time for today going through how Alex enjoyed
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Wednesday and he starts by a
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A little bit of defensiveness about how he said that Trump was gonna declare an emergency and then it didn't happen
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Which we went over on a past episode, but hey Alex wasn't wrong about that
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How could he not have been wrong about me slowing for the first time in two plus years?
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Because of the one line shut down
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And I really sit back and think shouldn't Trump have just declared a national emergency. Oh
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But he got convinced not to do it he was going to do it my prediction did not fail
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No, he was never talking about it. That's not how predictions were
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I said he's declared an emergency and then when he was we told you but
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They backed off
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So that's how his prediction is wrong. That doesn't yeah, that doesn't work though
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What he's trying to present is a convoluted nonsensical idea
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I told you a sunspot was gonna destroy New York City on January 12th
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And this Sun just backed off right that doesn't mean it didn't still want to destroy, New York
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Right, but it was convinced by Pompeo. He doesn't not to he doesn't seem to understand what a prediction is
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No, I don't think so. Either. This is what's going to happen. It didn't happen, but I was right. Yeah, they were gonna do it
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So the issue comes down to this idea that Alex is always right but Trump backed off at the last minute
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To Alex discusses a trend that this seems to keep happening this seems to keep always so he's close to getting it
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Well, no, he gets close to getting he gets it. He's just rationalizing it now
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that's the facts ladies and gentlemen and
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so
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the president has all these ways to skin a cat and
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He can use the military funding to do it and he should have done it
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So I told you they were looking at an emergency. They decided to do it
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They said they were gonna do it and then he backed off
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So when it comes time for Trump to really execute
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With his canines
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To really bite into it every time he backs off
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Doesn't release the secret document showing was illegally spied on they perjured themselves or didn't do it
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They didn't a lot of these things. He says he'll do
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Right when it comes to the final edge of the situation. He isn't doing it
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And so hey, we'll see who's right about this in the end. But yeah, we will
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Because you I mean your immediate response was right
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It's like oh, maybe Trump is backing off at the last minute
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Or maybe he's a fucking con man who's bluffing with all this stuff and these things aren't real. Yeah
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maybe
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maybe
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Everything you want him to do is such a tremendously bad idea
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even
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Eventually gets it to the point where he's like, oh, yeah, you're right
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This is not at all true and it would instead make me look like a fucking idiot
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I mean a man which I don't want to do Alex's argument about Trump being spied on relies on the Dennis Montgomery
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Information that Alex Jones has from the cold case squad down in Joe Arpaio
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Police Department in Maricopa County, which we went over is complete bullshit. Yeah, the whole story is absolute nonsense
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So just imagine the idea just the imagine the idea of Trump coming out with right the public
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Like can you imagine if more people than just us talked about the Dennis Montgomery?
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The action would be journalists. Let me pour over it and be like lucky. Look at all the problems here
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It would be it would be opening Pandora's box in a way that Trump would never want to do
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Yeah
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And that should give some indication that the story
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doesn't have as much legs as Alex wants it to now he can recontextualize it all he wants as like
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Trump keeps getting to the edge and backing off, but that's not what's going on. It's he's
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Lying to the public. Yeah, you did Lee and then not not
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Following through because he knows it would be a clusterfuck
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That's that is kind of a fascinating thing for Alex though is because he of course he feels like I'm being betrayed by the
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President. Yes, at least publicly facing right, but
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He does the same thing on account of he knows that he's lying as well, right?
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So he knows that if the if the president is gonna lie the same way he lies
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He's gonna be roundly fucked with but the president is the fucking president of the United States
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So everyone's gonna be paying attention
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Not just fucking us sure you were like you were saying like there's no way
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Well, Trump could do any of that shit without being
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destroyed definitely definitely con men one of the essential features in their sort of
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Modus operandi is that they don't follow through
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Yeah, because like what like a confident they're gonna build that monorail like a confidence guy in
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Classically is out of town by the time that comes time to do whatever they said they were going to do
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Which is why you don't become president cuz you can't just leave it turns out you can just move on
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Twist the the news cycle into something else or just you know, that's true. And so yeah
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This is the spiritual version of leaving town. That's what that's what Alex is describing when he says Trump doesn't follow through with his canines
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Yeah, it's the same thing
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Same thing when Alex tries to prove anything. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's just he's leaving town
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Well, I'm gonna spend this entire episode proving why it is that Trump should have declared a national emergency first
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I'm gonna spend the two hours, of course bitching about why everybody makes me feel bad all the time
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Sure, I'm gonna devote the last two hours. Well, I'm not gonna do the fourth hour because I I'm just tired
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Yeah, someone else really take over and in the third hour, I'm gonna kind of touch on it
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I'm gonna tell you that some headlines would say it's a good idea
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But hold on we're gonna have to take a caller that caller insulted me
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So I have officially debunked all of this for about 10 15 minutes and what I said is not true, right?
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I mean we saw it in the FEMA camp
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Proving episode that he has like he moved the goalposts a bunch of times
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Pretended to prove other things and then was like, well, I'm out of time
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I think we I think we've made our case that I only have time to reveal 10% of the fuck off man
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You're leaving town. So that's gonna work better than a bull corn hot dog
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I think bull corny hot dog whenever the I wrote it down so we can turn it into a thing
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Yeah, I think we would have a better chance of it
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Quite frankly bull cucky hot dog is what I call
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The libs. Yeah, so like I said a lot of the narratives that Alex is perpetuating in the present day are just so predictable
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They're exactly what you would expect and here is Alex talking about the kids from Covington
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No, I don't want to talk about them. We don't have to talk about them too much. But here's Alex's take on it coming up
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I'm gonna get into all that
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Where it's like are they bad or are they good? That's what makes the sketch show and these kids go on there
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NBC does a fair interview, but still a whitewash
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Yeah, and they get demonized by the left. Yeah
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Hey NBC, why don't you show people saying we're gonna kill you and cut your organs out you white piece of crap
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You cracker piece of crap. You mean to play all the clips again
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we've got 20 minutes of insults and cussing and the kids trying to get away to the bus stop and then
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the poor wonderful
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Rambo Vietnam commando
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Eldered chief big wampum
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Marches over and gets in their face and the whole corporate press cuts the tape edits it and lies
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Because of the enemy of the people that's not good. I mean just the chief big wampum thing is real bad
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I don't know why Alex can't defend kids who are acting in a very racially insensitive
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Racist way without actually descending into racism himself. I don't know it seems to undercut his argument a little bit
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It's indicative of something actually. Yeah, it seems like seems like hot Alex. Why are you picking on these racist kids doing racist shit?
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I'm doing racist shit. Yeah
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That's weird. It's very weird and what he's talking about
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I mean what he's doing is he's trying to pull this weird sleight of hand trick where he conflates
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The Native American guy with the the black Israelites who were yelling stuff at the kids
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I I ignored this entire story and and that's because
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Guess what what whatever you thought is pretty much right? Yeah, you ignored the story. I
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I went into like seeing the details watching all the like watching the videos and stuff
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Yeah, if you're if your takeaway is that those kids and particularly the one who was just sort of smugly
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Standing in front of the dude. Yeah, if your takeaway is that they were acting like really like inappropriately
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Yeah, you're you're right. You're right
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There's more nuance to it in terms of like the kids from Covington
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We're getting into a bit of an argument with these black Israelites that were there black Hebrew guys
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But the Native American guy who came in with the drum was trying to diffuse the situation and then those kids started antagonizing him
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Yeah, of course
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if you actually watch the videos you can tell that the black Israelites were actually calmed down by the
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Intervention of this other guy and the the kids in the Maga hats and what-have-you were not they then began
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antagonizing him I would hate to be in the picture that is so
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closely related to
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What was the name of the first?
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black student
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Do you remember the Alabama picture with that crazy white bitch?
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Screaming at her like that's that picture. I don't want to be that kid
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Yeah, has anybody considered trying not to be that kid?
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It is it is the sort of thing where the optics of it are really
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Resonant they really they really capture a lot more than the actual picture captures right and yeah
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it's I don't know I look I have my position on it is the the issue is
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These kids were mixing it up and arguing with these black Israelites
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That's if you want to point the finger at somebody pointed at them
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Yeah, you know that you could you could have that but instead Alex his take on it is that this Native American elder is
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Chief big wampum and that he's a Soros operative right when he's there to destabilize things
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He goes he's paid to go to college campuses and get upset about people dressing up like Native Americans
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He has this whole like that is a strange gig
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I mean, I understand that uber doesn't pay that well, right?
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But I'm just saying that that's that doesn't seem like it pays that well either
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he has this whole convoluted narrative about how Soros is behind it and how this is like a
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It's trying to create racial division and what have you and I suppose my biggest
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Frustration and the reason that I didn't pay attention to this story is because there are already so many of these
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Yep, there are so many of these pictures
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There's just go to the fucking
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Ferguson it's like any number of these pictures if you want to find them you can see a picture that gives you a perfect
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encapsulation of white racism
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I
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Don't like these stories because clearly we have not been able to focus on any one of these pictures
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For a long enough period of time to do anything about it. You get too many people muddying the waters man, right?
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So it's Soros operatives baby to me
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It's just so frustrating because it's like fucking guys. We got to pick one and then never shut the fuck up about it ever
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That's what the right does every but that's what I'm saying, that's why they're successful
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That's why they've done so well is because they have one thing to say and they just fucking hit it every goddamn day, right?
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They have a real targeting and like focus of message. Yeah, whether or not what I say is true
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Why they've won so much there's something to that. So
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Alex wants to talk about how those kids when the Maga hats are awesome
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And the one of the reasons is that places where Maga is cool are better
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But he then explains what he means by better
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I don't think I was gonna say I want to hear where where better is
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I don't think that this is better because I don't think he lives there
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No, well guess what all the areas where people wear the red hats is where everybody wants to get into because you know what?
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That's where people work 12 14 hours a day
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No, that's where we still
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Glory down at the courthouse. I don't want that
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You can make fun of being square all day
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Most of us that are square have not been square at some point and figure it out
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It's a lot better being square than being twisted
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Is it being a drug addict or being a pervert or being a weirdo or being a criminal? Yeah, you're damn right
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I'm square. I'm squared away pretty good. I'm not perfect
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I want to get squared away more you're drunk on air all the time, man
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Don't fucking come at us with this this nonsense you drink on the job
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Man, you're real square Alex
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But I would say that like if what he's saying like where the places where Maga is cool
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Like that's where people are working 12 to 14 hours a day. That's too much
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Yeah, boo. Yeah, that's terrible boo. I don't want to do better jobs. Yeah. Yeah, that's awful
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I know I don't want to do that at all. No 14 hours a day is absurd
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That's what I work on this podcast
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Do you remember the beard like the predictions of the future from like the 1940s and 50s?
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Yeah, the number one was always like and because of automation will all only work three hours a day
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And everyone's like fuck yes. Yeah, if your standard of a good place is you're overworked then probably underpaid
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No, not good. And then second he says old glory flying at the State House. He means the Confederate flag
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Yeah, he absolutely does. I would say no, I do not think that makes for a good place
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I don't even know if I want the American flag flying at the courthouse. I think that that's fine
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I just I just want a courthouse. So that's covered in Bibles. I
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Huh? I think that he's being real stupid there and maybe not thinking too much
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Yeah, I think that even in his like sort of calmer moments
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He might not advocate for a place where you work 14 hours a day. That seems like that's the real America
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But that's what he's trying to do. He's trying to be like the real America, you know farmers
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Like coal miners, maybe like maybe those kinds of like salt of the earth
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For farmer, maybe farmer might be yeah, where you works 14 hours a day
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and you go home for two hours and you hit your wife and then you sleep for eight hours and you do it all the
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Next day, he could be real America. He could be hearkening to that that is entirely possible
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Yeah
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but what he doesn't fail or what he fails to recognize is that people who are working 14 hours a day or like people who
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Were in the gig economy and like people have two jobs and you can't make rent that sort of thing
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You know who works a lot of 14 hour days
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Uh fucking uber drivers and shit, you know non
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Confederate flag-waving states. Yeah, you know who doesn't get health insurance people working 12 to 14 hours a day
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Yeah, you bet. So that's all stupid
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Anyway in this next clip Alex is trying to drum up fear about this caravan 2.0
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Because we need it again. The right needs it. There's another care. Yeah, we talked about this already. Alex has started season 2
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Oh, yeah, we're on episode 2 season 2 of
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Okay, all right. Caravan fear
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They need it again
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I'm not sure why I think it probably has to do with the government shutdown and I'm trying to make sure that
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Democrats somehow look bad. I don't know because there's not another election coming up for another year
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I suppose I suppose they're they're
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upticks in the the shutdown negotiations require
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The wall, you know exactly it's because the their narrative about the shutdown is the Democrats don't want the wall
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You build up fear of what the wall could stop. Yeah
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That sort of thing. That's entirely what it is. So we have ruined the end of season 2
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What it's disappointing when it goes exactly the same way as it did in season 1, but Alex is complaining that this time
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Mexico is going to let people through and
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Then he says that Trump should do something very scary
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Everyone should be terrified by this. So we'll get into that as well. But understand the Associated Press and others are reporting
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What Trump said a few weeks ago?
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Mexico's gone from saying they'll help defend their own border
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To okay of the UN agrees to pay to have these people shipped up to the US border and they don't stay here
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We will allow a full-on invasion
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Now, you know what the regular
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response to that is
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For the president to declare an emergency sure and to put troops into Mexico
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I was right to take Mexico City and we have to start a war start a war. Let's go shake it back all like that
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What and let them know that we're not gonna have Mexico running a territorial war against us. Holy shit Alex is
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We're just gonna declare war on Mexico and take the capital Wow
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I mean it would it would fall is so fast so easily so easily at what you know
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How great we've been doing in ground wars so far. We're great at it
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Yeah, at what point do you then just not like oh we own Mexico now, isn't that what you do?
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I mean, is that what he's or do you just tell you take Mexico City, right?
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And then I don't know install a government you know
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No, no, we're we don't look that's what happens
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We're our foreign policy is all about taking our allies and installing governments where we didn't need to
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We're all about overthrowing governments. And that's the globalist philosophy, right? Right, right, right now, of course, we should do that with Mexico
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I mean a broken clock is right once a globalist. So I think it makes perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah
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Fuck man, it just when you hear stuff like that and that is like
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That to me is like did you like that's the sleep apnea stuff that I get worried
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Yeah, like he's advocating for a war on a Mexico. Yeah troops taking Mexico City, right?
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right, but that's only because they
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What how far out of line is this with everything? He's purported to believe
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Well, like the idea of he hates regime change right the idea that he hates foreign intervention
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He believes in state sovereignty
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of course all those sorts of things all of that is fucking out the window because he is afraid of these immigrants and
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Refugees that have every right to come and plead asylum when they make it to our border
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He's so fucking afraid of that and what's behind it
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I think I think if you really break it down is the idea that he's afraid of demographic shift
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He's afraid of the idea that white people won't hold on to the the power status that they they enjoy
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It's it's so fun. How much right-wing rhetoric
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Relies on Mexico doing things. Yeah, you know, it's like it's not like hey, we're gonna accomplish something
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It's like Mexico's gonna do it for us. See it's free right pay for the wall
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They're gonna stop all these caravans
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Yeah
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Do all our work for us and if I mean it sort of tracks with how they deal with immigrants if they don't do
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All of our work for us if that sovereign nation that has control of its own borders doesn't do all of our work for us
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We're just gonna have to conquer that nation. Everybody knows that Alex is kind of flippant with Mexican sovereignty
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I think partially because he has such like fantasies about the founding of Texas. Yeah. Yeah
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I think that there's a pretty decent chance that that's what what underlies his disrespect of Mexican sovereignty
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He's just kind of like I technically I live in Mexico. So we might as well own the whole place might as well
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So that's weird. I think that's pretty bad
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but in this next clip Alex
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Expresses a certain ambivalence about Trump and it's as close as get to criticism
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He says the Trump isn't doing a good enough job
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In terms of protecting Americans. We're losing tens. Well, what's the economy lose? I saw some number like 10 billion a day
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Yeah
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so we'll have this stupid standoff in a day 32 when the president has the power to do his job and declare the emergency and
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Circumvent the jerks in Congress jerks come friend a el president day
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Seriously I'm starting to get pissed off at Trump
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Now
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Now I know he's a lot better than the foaming at the mouth Democrats, but it isn't good enough protect this from him do your job
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Stop right there
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Okay, it's true I stayed up late last night
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So I had half a turbo force this morning half a half a container half a packet and I shouldn't have done it
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Cuz it's a marty pest. It's making me more angry. I tell you what, I'm feeling a lot of energy
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My brain sure working right now
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's our newest product
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For life
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Let me tell you it is that is not a good ad pivot is actively advocating don't take this don't take this I had half of one of the recommended doses and I am fucked up
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Anyways, you should buy
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Math it is less damaging than this shit right here because I am fucked up my ad pivot
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Yeah, it's actively working against like hey guys. What you're seeing for me right now is I'm out of it
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I'm out of it because I took this product which is a new product that's available on the info war store
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What the fuck?
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This is bad. That is hilarious. Yeah, it's that is very funny
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If it were a sketch it would be brilliant it would be so funny
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I
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Have had three heart attacks this morning and I would attribute that mainly to turbo force the new
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Product available in the info war store, right? I didn't use I didn't sleep last night
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Which is also attributable to what he said a couple days earlier that he has severe sleep apnea
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So he has that that's probably what caused him to not be able to sleep, right?
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So then he gets up in the morning. He has to do his show. He takes his own product
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He's fucked up on air and he tries to sell them by saying how tough they are to deal with
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I don't understand this world, man
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crazy
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That's bananas. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. So I think we're losing what like two billion in GDP a week. Is there something like that?
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But but I mean
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Regardless, it's a lot and then yeah even beyond that there's so many hidden costs that are going on
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Not just financial costs, but in terms of programs that are being like their funding is falling through right whether it's research
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There's so many labs that you you can read about where people are having to sneak in to keep cultures. Yeah alive of
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Research they're doing and stuff like that
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there's going to be like
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Massive massive fallout that we won't understand probably for like the next year and that was the case the last time we had a
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even shorter government shutdown on this we didn't
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Understand the damage that was being done as it was happening and and we do understand right now
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The people who are being affected by it not being paid and stuff like that. We're if we understand that. Yep
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It's it's harrowing to think about like all the stuff that we're gonna discover that we just didn't realize
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Got fucked up in the in the process and what's super important to remember
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Is that as much as this is Trump being a giant baby?
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every Republican in elected office
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Save of maybe a few is a giant coward
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Yeah
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They are Trump is an idiot Trump doesn't know Trump is trying to win a fight
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Trump is not aware of how real things work
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He's a fucking moron probably every one of these guys in this man
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Not every one of them but a ton of GOP members in the Senate in the house know full fucking
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Well the damage that they are doing and they're doing it out of cowardice because they are watching their constituents
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Get fucked over because they don't want to get blow back. Don't show ass
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they would they don't want to look like they're breaking ranks and
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That is exactly why we're fucked because all of these people are cowards probably
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But Alex is still criticizing Trump a little bit in that last clip. He's still giving him a little bit
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Oh, I'm getting sick of this guy. Yeah. Yeah, we're on we're on getting sick of this guy watch
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Year two. Yeah, but this time Alex follows up by
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expressing a plan that he has to protest Trump and people need to call the White House and
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support the president
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Could they send a form letter getting his attention?
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And
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I am gonna go to DC soon and have a march on the White House peaceful March
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Calling for the president to do his job and declare an emergency. I thought he would have done it by now
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They said he was but he backed off. Okay, how crazy is it for Alex fucking Jones?
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To be talking about going to Washington DC halfway across the country
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Yeah to hold a quote unquote peaceful march
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By the way, where he tries to encourage the president to express
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Executive powers. Yeah, how crazy like how like
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Not a few years ago whether it was Obama or Bush's term
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He would have done the exact same thing or maybe
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Pretended he was going to because he's not gonna follow through with this now hell no, but he would have pretended a lot of work
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Yeah too much. Yes sleep apnea. Yeah, he he would have said that he was gonna go and protest Bush or Obama
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But it would be to have them not express their exact exactly
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So now you have Trump and he's like he's not doing the thing
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I need I need him to create this authoritarian state because once he does I
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Can be a media figure?
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Yeah, pretty much. I can't do it. I will be accepted once again. Yeah, exactly
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I am going to go to the White House and have a peaceful protest
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Saying that Trump should declare himself king and destroy the White House so I can get back on Twitter exactly
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What a petty bitch it's pathetic but I mean underneath it is that he knows or he believes that Trump expressing these
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Executive powers will allow him to create this sort of world that Alex wants to live in which we understand from
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Engaging with Alex's rhetoric over the years is a white supremacist
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authoritarian state do you think there is also a bit of a like
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Obviously in the world we live in now, he can't really be successful
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So yeah, if Trump installs a I guess dictatorship
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I think about this exact question that you're about to ask a line then Trump is thinking well
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I mean, of course, I'm gonna keep Fox and Friends. Those dudes are stupid shills for me loves the deuce
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I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm gonna get rid of Shepherd Smith. He might fire kill me. Yeah
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It's gotta go. I think we're all fine with that kill me
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It's getting a little too lippy on Fox and Friends, but he's gonna install
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Alex as his front piece
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I think that is that kind of what he thinks is he's gonna install Alex in a media operation
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And so I think that Alex thinks that his brand of media would be much more protected
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Were the because we heard him talk about it about how Obama put in all these executive orders that he can't name
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It doesn't specify any of them and one of them is this vague idea of control
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I mean fuck yourself Alex Jones
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Well initiative the government has the authority of the executive has the authority to take over the media and stuff like that
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What he's really talking about is the emergency alert system, right?
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But he believes that what if he was the voice of the emergency alert system tornado coming? This is just a warning
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Tornado watch
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Get to your basements Hawaii a nuclear bomb is coming everyone's going to tell you beep beep beep beep
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Apologies, I do my own foley work. That was an error. Yeah
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I don't
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Except I was still right, but it was an error
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I think that there is some sense that he has that's misguided obviously
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But there is some sense that should Trump like put through these executive powers that Alex believes him to have
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He would be able to then overturn all of the things that are keeping Alex down like Trump can get an executive order to put
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Him back on Facebook, right, right because he believes that those things that are keeping him off of these social media platforms are
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parts of government
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Coordination. Yeah. Yeah, but it's the globalists within the government that are doing it not his treasured nationalist
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So it's all based on a misunderstanding of what's happening to him and I think a lot of it is willful
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But also it doesn't
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It does also feel like he might actually believe it. Yeah, it's really hard to say I don't know
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I don't know. I just want him to take over for Sarah Huckabee Sanders because life would be so much better boof
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That'd be crazy. They're not even doing press briefings anymore. You might as well put Alex in there. Fuck
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Yeah, everybody would have a great time and make it would make Alex feel so good
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Yeah, you give him a much-needed win. Yeah second source of income so we get that neck surgery
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Which I bring back up because I think that this next clip is a demonstration on January 23rd of
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Exactly his glutamine
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Excessiveness his overabundance of this stress hormone this accelerator
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And his gaba deficiency. I believe that what we see in this not hormone, but bring him
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Yeah, I think this is a full demonstration of this and this is why it makes me uncomfortable
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I still like to laugh about him and stuff like that, but this is why it's kind of uncomfortable
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She drives around in hundred ninety thousand dollar cars. He's talking about Maxine Waters
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Sure, these people are criminals. She swindled to her husband tens of millions of dollars to his bank a bailout money
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She's a damn criminal. Excuse me. They put Maxine Waters on the screen. It made me start to have a little bit of a heart
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attack there I
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Don't like losing I don't like seeing this country get run in the ground
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We can beat these people if we just start making the right moves
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I
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Did take turbo force this morning, okay
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Holy shit, also serious issues Dave Shaq can't really take my own products Dave in New York
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Oh, that's a really bad ad pivot. That's I mean, that's not even it's an anti ad pivot at the end, but like what you're seeing there Either that or he just did a line of coke could be that's entirely the problem
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The behavior is also in line with that
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Yeah, cuz you've definitely been to a party where people say that shit
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Yeah, or or just some other thing could make someone laugh that maniacally
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And I know that it's sort of a running joke on our show the fake laugh and like yeah
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I mean a lot of the time definitely fake. Yeah, that is right on the line of fake and psychotic
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Yeah, there's something about that. That's a scary. Let that second. Laugh gives you chill
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it really fucks with you like it's it's kind of on a
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An almost primal level of like if you hear somebody make that noise you want to run
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Yeah, I'm gonna play shit is happening. I'm gonna play it again. Okay
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Dave I
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Did take turbo force this morning? Okay
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But it's also serious issues Dave Shaq can't really take my own products. Yeah, that's fucking the Joker
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Yeah, that's legit. Like why so serious there's crazy
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I think that if you on second listen, I think that there is an element of it
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That's fake and then there's also a part of it. That's not there's a very scary. Yeah, it's very
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It's very tough to find the line there. No matter what it is. It belies like someone who is mentally unwell. Yeah
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it's
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Hate yeah, you hate to see this even in a big even if that was an act
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Yeah, you know that was fully percent an act 100% an act. That's still fucking scary
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Anybody who's doing that as an act knows how terrifying they are and presenting it is real and you know
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You heard that he's going to calls. So he's bringing that energy into talking to his audience. Hi, David
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Yeah, anyways Dave have you tried turbo force dog sale now
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Terrifying. Yeah, you're right. You're right. There's no way around it fake or real. It's still super fucked up. Yeah
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Yeah, I'm uncomfortable with all of that
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Yeah
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So in this next clip Alex gets back to the Covington business and he says that that Native American gentleman
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He says some you know, you already called him big chief wampum. I
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Assume we're gonna continue descending into more racial hatred. I'll say it's not it's not good
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I'm gonna come right back with the Covington kids because that's the next subject. I want to get into
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New developments we knew it we guessed it. He's a Democratic Party Soros operative confirmed
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He went to other churches and would try to break into them and go into services and beating his drum
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Saying the Christianity attacked the you know, the natives all this crap
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They did wasn't a Vietnam veteran. That was all lie
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And it's just this guy doesn't just look like a demonic snake. He is a demonic snake
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absolute bottom-of-the-barrel Democrat filth garbage
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every time
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Well, they're right back. Stay with us. That's terrible. That is just terrible. I mean on so many levels
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Terrible. I think he's
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Really channeling Andrew Jackson trying to finish the Native American genocide
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you know, he loves the old old Jackson like it's cuz it's
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Legitimately like oh, he's saying that Christians came in and murdered
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They did they did right they did on purpose
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through
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Christianity that was their main reason for destroying that but what what did this guy do? Oh, he was there and he looked
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So different in his interviews that they that happened afterwards. He wasn't even mad at those kids
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No, but he didn't demonize them or anything like I know I'm pretty sure he was a demonic steak snake
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Which is why you can't demonize other people. Mmm. That's one of the rules of hell. Did you not know that?
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You know, he's taught he says that he looks like a demonic snake
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Which is also, you know
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You know that if you had been into some serious Satanist shit between the ages of 12 and 15
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You'd also know that if you pretend to be a serious satanist shit
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I don't know whenever you say that somebody looks like demonic whatever that's usually you're trying to
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Use code. Yeah, I always I always get the sense that whenever you're you're you're relating someone's appearance to demonic ness
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you're generally I mean you're talking about their physical characteristics and
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You it's it's tough to wiggle away from that because I see that guy and I don't think he looks like a demonic snake
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He looks pretty nice. It looks like a guy. Yeah
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I don't know. What's what I think is nice about it
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is
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That normally he uses demonic snake to refer to Jews. So it's nice that he's broadening his horizons, you know
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He's using the built-up sort of potency of it. He's used in the past. Yeah
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And applying it now to this new situation. So he's using that trigger that he's built up to apply to this guy
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so it's not better it it is a
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I
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Actually kind of think that he's in a bummer of a place even for him
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Yeah, because what he would really love is to go after the black Israelites
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Cuz that I don't understand that that's part of the story, right?
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We're right, but for a I'm okay if I was giving right if we were doing our
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Info we were doing our consultancy business
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Our main goal would be go after the black Israelites, but but the reason he can't
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Is that they are nationalist too? Like they're like they're black nationalists. No. No, I think the reason they can't is because they're not in the
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picture
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Like if there were if the most publicized picture was the the black Israelites and the white
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Assholes, yeah, then he can be like, yeah, of course. It's right to go after them a
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long series of reasons
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Parenthesis mainly because they're black but because the picture is of the Native American Vietnam War vet
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He has the Soros operative. He has to take him down and he's like, ah, this is bad even for me
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I think that one of the reasons that he can't even if he did understand the full scope of the situation go after the black
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Israelites is that like anybody who knows anything about them knows that they thrive on
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Antagonism what they do generally speaking is they hang out in cities on the East Coast like New York and they yell at people on
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street corners
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Hoping to antagonize them. I don't know anything about the black Israelites. Do you have a could you provide some context for me?
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I can't provide a lot. But if you want to learn a little bit more about them go for it
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But also there's a good Louis Thoreau documentary where he went and hung out with the black nationalists
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And and they were one of the groups that he hung out with you can get a little bit of an insight into how they
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Operate. Okay, it's it's so it's equivalent to like the black creatures that you see here in Chicago
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Like I don't State Street who yells you're going to hell and stuff like that
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There is a little kernel of that in what they do. They're sort of the way they operate is to
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Entice people in to what they believe by antagonizing them. Mm-hmm
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You know, I I don't know. I don't know if you had this is you didn't go to college fully but like when I went
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When I watch I I'm sorry, I don't mean to disparage but I earned a degree. I just didn't pay for it fine
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I have more credits than necessary when I went to
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University of Missouri there was a guy who used to come to the campus named brother Jed and he was this
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Evangelist who would go around the country like I'm sure a number of people who were listening had him come to their campus
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And throughout the time that they were in college. Yes. He was around
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But his main base was in Missouri. His mom's so fat when she was. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah
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his main base was in Missouri and
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He was always on campus at Mizzou and he his whole thing was just screaming at people about how they're whores
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And how they're going to hell and what he would do is he would attract a large crowd of college kids who were mostly
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laughing at him right and then he would yell at them and then try and engage them in debates and that was his style of
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evangelism and
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You know what? Here's the thing. It doesn't work
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big picture, but it does work in terms of like a
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Thousand people are gonna laugh at you and maybe someone's gonna take a swing at you
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But you get to use that guy who takes a swing at you as an example of why you're right and you're oppressed
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Right and the people who do come to you maybe one out of every five thousand people
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That you encounter is going to be extreme as fuck and that's going to be a good recruit
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Okay, the people like people like the black Israelites. They are operating in a very similar
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Technique they're using the same strategy. It's that broad net. Yeah that you're going to lose
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everybody but the people you do get are going to be
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Soldiers they're going to be acolytes. So and this is different from the 5% nation. Yes, that's through Islam
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Do they get to do they get along? Well, actually the the the 5% nation is
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offshoot of
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Malcolm X's Church right that they Malcolm X's Church wasn't extreme enough for them
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So this guy named Clarence 13 X whose nickname is pudding love him
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His name is putting would like him to be my friend because his words were so smooth. Is he still alive?
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No, he's dead. God damn it
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But Clarence 13 X who branched off of the nation of Islam created the 5% nation the nation of gods and earths
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Uh-huh, where in his conception is the black man is God made up of the constituent parts arm leg leg arm head
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Which are Allah arm leg leg arm head that seems a little too easy, especially since English, but nevermind sure
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Like he knows they don't spell it that way in
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Never mind, he believes that the black man is God and the black woman is their earth
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So they exist in a in a sort of mutually
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Respectful arrangement where the God rules over the earth. Okay. There's where we get sure of course
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Also white people were created in a lab by an evil scientist named Yakub again
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I still don't disbelieve that and there's tons of people in pop culture who kind of believe these beliefs like the Wu Tang clan
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Among among other rappers, but this has done a lot for me
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I don't disagree one of the interesting things is that the RZA's version of the 5% nation is almost
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Reform 5% nation. I do think he takes a lot of the racism out of it or at least he has in later time
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I think if you went back to like when 36 chambers was recorded
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Did he mail 36 theses?
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Might have I
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I might know too much about them. The reason that's called the 5% nation is because they believe that there are 5% of the
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Population that is aware of the truth and helping wake up the rest of the population
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85% of the population is deafblind and dumb. They have no idea what's going on
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All right
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And then there's 10% that is working against the 5% that are trying to keep the 85 that don't have a clue
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Asleep in their slumber. All right, and the truth that the 5% knows is that the black man is God, right?
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But in the more reformed versions of it that the RZA espouses these days
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It's more it's not really that important what race you are
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It's more a self-empowerment thing like the 5% understands that you are a god in your own life, right?
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That sort of thing right now granted. There's still some misogyny
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It's not it's not great it's interesting
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Yeah, but to answer your question in a briefer way
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The 5% nation is an Islamic group as opposed to the black Israelites, which are more
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Sort of the Judeo-Christian God line
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That's what I was wondering. Do they do they get along?
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They can't get along right? No, but they do have such a bummer. We've got a 5% Israeli-Palestine situation going on. I'm sorry. I'm
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Absolutely, I mean and they do share a lot of like sort of black nationalist ideas certainly which you know
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Seems like it would be common ground
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But I don't from what I understand and I could be a little bit wrong about this from what but from what I understand
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They don't see eye to eye gotcha the 5% nation and the black Israelites aren't aren't cool a bummer
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You guys would have you guys could have had a great time together
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Alex goes on at this point to talk more about how cool these kids were
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from Covington the Covington boys
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And he said was also a great band name too. I would like that
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He says something that boy not good and these kids are so cool. I'm a little this must be an awesome school
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They hate cool people you want to be a square taking this nicely. Let me tell you something when I was 14 15 16
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Just the average person in Dallas. I don't care if you're an adult or who you were
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We were all polite nice
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But if somebody got in our face and sort of beating drums in our face or tell us they were gonna kick our ass
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You'd have a problem. So I thought you were a Satanist at that time, but I was writing down
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Two of those years at least yeah, you are a Satanist. So shouldn't you condemn that behavior?
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I don't understand is just his whole timeline is fucked
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But him saying that this school is awesome. That must be a great school. You can go find pictures of
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Bunch of the kids from the school like at basketball games and blackface
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That's great. Yeah real cool school. That's part of their tradition. You bet it's crazy
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So Alex being like this is a great it seems like a great school
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No, it's not and there's there's more indications of this too
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like there have been other people who have looked into the
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Just sort of the staff there and talk to other students who go to that school and they've all indicated. There's a pretty there's a pretty
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problematically
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very like singularly white
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there was an interview with the
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Valedictorian who was gay who was like this school is
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Fucked. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't read that interview, but I believe it. He was a former valedictorian
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So I mean even I think it was like last year or something. You always are a valedictorian if you are once
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That sounds right. Um, so in this I didn't graduate college. So
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In this next clip Alex is trying to defend these kids and what he does is he appeals to
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Lie that he is built up as a waypoint over the years and because we've done our work and we've followed Alex
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We know this is a lie and it's fun to see
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We had Matthew in Nevada making the point that people are saying we're gonna kill you go back to Europe
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We're gonna harvest your organs
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The provocateur wasn't doing and he was just beating the drum in their face and then had the people with him
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So Alex is already without talking about the specifics of the situation is admitting that these were the black Israelites who were yeah
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Yelling these things. So the provocateur though was this Native American guy with his drum
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so I don't understand how that's the provocateur in if yeah Alex is mad about is these black Israelites who are screaming at the
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Kids go back to Europe. I'm gonna take your organs
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Yeah, I was gonna say by necessity the propaganda the provocateur cannot be the guy
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No
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It has to be the people screaming that's actively trying to diffuse the situation between the two parties fighting
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Alex doesn't give a shit that he led over like the Pied Piper. That's what these provocateurs to that's what's in the Antifa documents
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It's how you go to which one areas that they target blacks. It actually says it in the documents
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2018 we got them which was how they're trying to cause martial law and race riots and
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Talk about how they're Antifa people they start the violence
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They start the call they even have drums sometimes and then they try to trigger the population to get even more violent
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They have agreed areas they can target with the police
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Certain trash cans certain businesses that are in on it at a corporate level like Starbucks
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I was wondering why they always attack Starbucks Starbucks doesn't press charges. It's all authorized. That's in the documents
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These are the documents that he found on 4chan that are completely fake. These are the contracts
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Yeah, yeah, this is complete bullshit. There's like this is this to me is where like
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Where the conversation really should stop?
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but because the show that we do it never does like the conversation that that like Alex says something like that and
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All you have to do is like Alex what like where does your narrative go?
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If those aren't real you haven't proven that they're real
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So where do you have anything to stand on here if they're not real right?
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No
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You don't this all this falls apart this idea that the guy is a provocateur falls apart
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He's even now throwing in that in those documents like sometimes I have drums now
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I wasn't a part of this before you're using it because it's convenient now
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You know that the initial thing was a lie so you can add a hat to a hat you can lie on top of a lie
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Yeah, it doesn't matter say that there's drums in that document
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Yeah, it was a shit if the antifa sometimes uses drums. This guy was using a drum
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He must be antifa. That's a logically sound statement one to one you love logic
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You can clearly confirm that if a uses a drum then by necessity if B uses a drum
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Despite there being no connection between them. They must be the same the way you do. It is some antifa protesters use drums
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This protester use a drum
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It's possible that this protester was the best you could do. It's in the documents doesn't work
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So at this point towards the end of the show Alex gets some breaking news
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And he's got to go to it because it's important
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But this just broke Caracas is basically falling in Venezuela
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the president here has
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Recognized the opposition leader that many experts believe won the last election
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That's crazy
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So Juan Guido has declared himself the president of Venezuela. That's what's going on
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But the president up to this point has been Nicolas Maduro
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I have no interest in litigating the presidency of Maduro because I sincerely think that it's a side issue
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What's going on right now is a coup and Donald Trump has expressed that he recognizes
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Guido as the president of Venezuela and that quote all options are on the table in terms of dealing with the situation
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This could end up being a very very serious problem because you know who recognizes Maduro still at this point
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Russia China North Korea Iran Turkey Mexico and many other countries
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There's a ton of oil in Venezuela
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So it's not like the world is just gonna agree to disagree about who the president of the country is and this could very
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Seriously blow up into a geopolitical crisis
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Now that Maduro has indicated that he's going to cut off relations with the US and he's given notice for diplomats to return to
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Yeah, they have 72 hours or whatever. Yeah, it's crazy
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Yeah, we're recording this on Wednesday because of our schedules this week
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But just before we started recording there were indications growing that Trump will not withdraw
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diplomats because the president he recognizes didn't ask him to this is a recipe for an international incident wait
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He said he wouldn't withdraw them there were indications that he was going to make that statement before right before we started recording
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Holy shit, he's gonna get motherfuckers killed. Absolutely. I mean that could spark
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like an absolute
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Disaster. I don't know what the situation is because for the last, you know hour and a half
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We've been recording but as I was following it before this is you know it what you what you see is the recipe for
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Real fucking trouble because it's not an isolated thing, right?
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Like I know how bad Brazil is like the idea that Bolsonaro is in power
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I remember that that sort of thing
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But it doesn't have the same wedge that something like what's going on in Venezuela right now does these are both coups
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Absolutely. Yeah in terms of what and right in line with how we treat South America
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yeah, and Central America, but this is like this is different because we have now Trump and
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Trudeau in Canada has also said that they recognize
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Guido as the the president and so you have the these these
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X group of people who are like that is the real president of this oil-rich country. Yeah. No these other people think
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Maduro is still the president of this country
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You what comes what ends up happening is?
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Who does the military support?
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Then if it if they support the side that oh, I don't know
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America doesn't agree with
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What does that turn into? Yeah, although it has it has the potential to be a ridiculous powder cake
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it is it is something of a
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Weird conversation though because when you do add in Mexico recognizes Maduro as president
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He has received a lot of pushback from that. Let you know am lo a
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People aren't stoked that he was like yeah Maduro's president. Nope. That wasn't a thing that everybody's cool with no
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No, no, so
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Joining that coalition is is one of those things where people have very mixed feelings about
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And I have I have mixed feelings too. Like yeah, I'm not we're not sitting here supporting Maduro. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck Maduro
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But the the the situation that's happening right now with Juan Guido is is nonsensical
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It's it's it's ludicrous
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So Guido has been the leader of the National Assembly
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But he did not supposedly win the 2018 election as Alex is presenting. That's crazy
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The candidates in that election were Maduro, Henry Falcon
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Javier Bartucci
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Reynaldo
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Quijada and Louis
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Alejandro Ratti if Alex wants to make the argument that Maduro's win was suspicious fine go for it
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Was we can have that conversation agree
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But to say that Guido is the rightful winner of that election and some international in organizations believe that it
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Demonstrates a complete lack of awareness of what's going on because he wasn't even in that election. That's nuts
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I was I was going to facetiously say, of course, he didn't win that election
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He didn't even run because I thought that would be a fun joke. Nope. He didn't even run
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Yeah, okay. He ran for like president of the National Assembly, which is like the legislature
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I write great, but I would I from what I understand it's like essentially equivalent to like Speaker of the House
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So after being sworn in as president of the National Assembly last year
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Guido began encouraging the military and the government to recognize him as the rightful president of the country
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It's possible to live in a world where you have severe misgivings about how Maduro runs the country and at the same time
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Recognize that this is an anti-democratic coup happening right in front of our eyes
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I certainly don't know what the right answer is, but I'm fairly certain that it's not
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Immediately recognize the guy who declares himself president as the rightful president of the country
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No, that's I don't think that's the right way to go about it
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What they should do is elect to mayor. I think that would be a great idea. He can't run in Brazil anymore
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He might as well become president of Venezuela. Sure. That makes perfect sense
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Extradite Lula to Venezuela. See what happened. Actually, that would probably work out great. I don't I'm not not in a month
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We can
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We're laughing but like this is very very serious. No, it's fucked up. We're all gonna yeah and and the the the possibility
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I'm not I'm not trying to predict terrible things to come or anything like that because I don't like being a doomsday guy or anything
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Yeah, but the potential for
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like real serious
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Disagreement among world powers is
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very possible here because Venezuela and their oil resources are a very important piece of
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Not just our world, but everyone else's so the idea that Russia China Iran Turkey
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Recognize Maduro is the president and we are starting to say like no, it's Guido
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Where do you think that ends if only there were?
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previous historical examples of
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America recognizing somebody is the president who wasn't democratically elected. I mean, can you think of any none?
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No, I know I know but this is happening in front of our eyes right now, it's weird
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Yeah, it's terrifying. So Alex doesn't really do any analysis on that
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I can't wait for like a week from now for him to be like like this guy no guy and it's like hey, man
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you hate
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Like for an intervention you hate regime change. Yeah, you hate all of these things you hate
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Anti-democratic processes. Yep, you respect sovereignty of countries, right? What are you doing?
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Like it just he has no he's a man adrift. He has no Center
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Yeah, this is this is weird. I don't like it. No, it makes me it makes me feel really uncomfortable when
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somebody does it like and this is this is also true of like
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to to always make it clear a
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party affiliation is
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Not important not in our country not to not to me or or anything like that
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so to see so many people just
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Fucking abandon their principles to watch these Democrats to who are
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Like Maduro getting on board with this. That's what I'm saying
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Just because you don't like Maduro doesn't mean that this is the right answer, right?
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We if you don't have principles then fucking say it
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You know like just say I don't give a fuck about what it is
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I pretend to believe and I will do the expedient thing in order to achieve my short-term goals
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Which as we know from all of human history always works out great
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Yeah, like I don't know how better to say go fuck yourself
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I mean, yeah totally but I mean we all take all the people who are you know, making those arguments know that
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It's not gonna affect them at all. Yeah, that's going to affect the people in Venezuela
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It's going to affect the collateral damage that
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Ends up with tons and tons of death there. Yeah, like it's that it's it's it's dreadfully unacceptable
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And which is great because the Venezuelan people have been doing so well for so long sure and Alex talks about the idea that
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They're like eating dogs all the time and stuff like that and like sure you can there's a conversation to be had about
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you know Hugo Chavez and
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Maduro's mismanagement of resources and stuff like that. Absolutely. Then there's also a conversation to be had about sanctions
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And and and that sort of thing and how much that affects
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The actual civilians there as opposed to the people who are trying to hurt
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Right and and and and so it's not as black and white as Alex wants it to be on that that end either
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Yeah, I can't I can't you know, like we've talked to we talk about sanctions or at least our
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Government and media talks about sanctions and I can't find a moral argument for them
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Do you know what? I mean, I think I think
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Yeah, it's hard because ideologically I think they're right in terms of you know
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If there is it's sort of like putting someone in timeout
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Like if you look at it just from like on paper standpoint like the idea it's more like putting it's more like a child
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I have it like a parent acting terribly and putting the child in timeout
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Except you're starving the child today, but that's what that's you know, that's what I was gonna get to in the second part
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Sorry, sorry about that. I apologize for interrupting it. No, it's fine on paper. It seems like it's a good
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Like the way to do it like if someone some country is out of line then cut off the aid and yeah
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Yeah, sanctions on like freeze accounts and and that sort of thing
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It seems like that's the right thing to do but we've had enough time where we've seen that the effect of it doesn't actually hurt
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the people that you're trying to hurt which would be the
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The oligarchs the people who are in power right sort of thing that it only ends up hurting the people beneath them
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So we should know from experience that it doesn't work
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Yeah, though it appears that it would work right in way that like, you know quarantines and like closing the borders
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Right, right feels like it would work. It seems like a good argument. It makes it makes a
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Sense. Yeah, an intuitive sense as opposed to a logical. Yeah, it feels like the right thing to do, but we have enough experience
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We have enough history to know that it doesn't and it just hurts the most vulnerable people. So yeah, I agree
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I mean, I don't know what to do with it. I don't know what the appropriate thing
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Or international protocol should be I don't write one of the problems is this is still developing, you know
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Even as we're recording this and it'll be another day before this episode is out, right?
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So by the time this episode comes out, there will be things that we're unaware of as we're recording, right?
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And so I don't I don't know the situation will develop and what-have-you
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But the big point is that Alex doesn't understand what's going on. He has no idea. He's commenting in a flippant way
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Which seems to advocate it indicates initial support for guide out
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In as much as he's saying that he should have been the rightful winner of the last election. Yeah, and
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It just it's it's a pathetic position for him to be in like he needs to do better
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I suppose he needs to prepare in any way and I understand this is breaking news. No, absolutely. There's a way to
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uncritically and
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Just without editorial position to reveal breaking news
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So like you're in the middle of your show this news breaks you'd say
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Here's the situation
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We'll we'll talk about it a little bit later need to get some more details right that sort of thing
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That's how you present that or if you're someone who has studied the situation and understands the history of Venezuela
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Understands what's going on there?
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You can editorial eyes a little bit
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But Alex is doing neither. It's just bad. I
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halfway think his prescription for solving the Venezuela crisis is
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For America to take over Mexico City. I mean, that's part of it doesn't that sound Mexico Sports?
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Maybe so we have one more clip Jordan. Yeah, so recently there have been a couple posts in our group the
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Facebook go home and tell your mother you're brilliant that are asking nice
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They're asking us I did take some go home and tell your mother you're brilliant this morning and I am fucked up
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So I wouldn't recommend joining the group at all. Don't do it
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There have been a couple posts
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asking if anybody has any idea if Alex knows about our show and
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My my response to that is always kind of like a I think he probably does
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I think I have some reason to believe that he does but also
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Anything that I think or any evidence that I have that he knows about our show could be explained away by coincidence
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Did he hear about us through the Somali pirates could be?
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It could all be coincidence. There's nothing definitive, right?
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But I think that I don't I don't think that you live in a world where there are two people who have been putting out
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multiple episodes
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critiquing him for two years
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And at least somebody who works at infowars doesn't know about I think that's unrealistic
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especially with his penchant for
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finding every single
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Specific critic about him that he possibly like somebody wrote a random-ass blog on one of our episodes in the past
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And he spent an hour on it. Yeah, but also that might have been like how he used to operate
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Maybe he sort of let that go always who knows there's a lot of possibilities
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I can't say definitively either way, but I think this next clip
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Made me gasp from the Wednesday the 23rd
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because
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It indicates that if he listens to our show he listens early in the morning
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Like before he does okay on the on the way to work. He listens to us. Listen to this. I like that
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Well, let me tell you who and I know one of the members of who is a big listener big one
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I won't get to get one sheet no longer
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Because I got the answers. I have are you sure you're not listening to us?
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I hope I have not heard him talk about the who being big listeners
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except for that episode
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We that we put out on Wednesday
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The morning that he recorded this show
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It happens and again
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Coincidence probably a crazy coincidence
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Raising but it's nuts man
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It's I like I like living in this fantasy world where he woke up and listen to our shows like yeah
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Who are fans of me? I remember that
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So god damn it are are are you actually smart are you fucking with us? It's not I need to know so
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He says that
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At least one of the members of the who is a big fan of the show
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And I should say there's only two members of the who who are still alive Roger Daltrey and Pete Townsend
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Keith moon dead not a fan and whistle not a fan
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Townsend 100% is not a fan of Alex in
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1974 Pete Townsend said that he was a practicing capitalist, but his ideals were communist in 2012
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He gave an interview where he said quote. I try to stay away from American politics because I'm a bit of a neocon
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I like the idea of America is the world's police force. That's not in line with Alex in any way
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Uh-huh, so you could say that he had like nascent
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Communist tendencies back in the 70s right and then he grew into a neocon which is very regular trajectory for people of that generation
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Yeah, especially talking about my generation especially ones who become rich. Yes, that's kind of a big
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You bet yeah, but the idea that he would become a self-avowed
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Neocon and and express that that sort of thing means he's not even close to Alex's world
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I think that Alex here is just really talking about how Roger Daltrey didn't interview where he endorsed brexit
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I think that's what he's that it
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Yeah, I think that's how he's going off of but in the same interview he critiques Trump
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And it says he has stupid hair and shit like that so I don't know damn it Daltrey get your house in order
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But it's got to be Daltrey that Alex is talking about cuz it's not Townsend it is not Townsend
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So it's got to be Daltrey, but I looked for it
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I tried to find like some indication that like where is he close to Alex and it's legitimately the only thing that I can find
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Is one interview he did where he said yeah, I'm into brexit see cuz I could almost see Keith Moon being into Alex
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He's dead though. I know that's the problem. When did Alex start a show?
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Cuz Keith Moon died before that this one was from literally today. No no all right all right god damn it
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I'm just talking about how one of them is a big fan. I was a big fan. That's true
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I was cuz I was trying to think like even if it was 20 years
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I think he has been dead for yeah
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I think Keith Moon's been dead as long as Alex has been on the radio
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Hey whistle I think died in the 90s right when did you I remember his death. I don't remember when it was though
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I will tell you this I don't know cuz
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Really, and whistle are we even gonna count you as a member of the who I to me Keith Moon and Pete Townsend are the who?
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And Daltrey and it wasn't can go fuck themselves
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Uh I I understand where you're coming from with that, but you're wrong
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Yeah fair enough. No no it was all died in 2002. Oh, so it could be a whistle
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He's talking about it in the present tense
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Whistle died 17 fucking years ago faked his death could have been much like
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JFK jr. Absolutely to the Cuban on
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Oh, so okay. I believe JFK jr.. Faked his death. Yeah, it's crazy
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So we reached the end of this episode, and I don't know I don't think we have any
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This is the problem with modern day. What the fuck are we even talking about we solved it
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I think the only thing you walk away from this is like Alex has no
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Like ability to talk about things on the fly things like a coup in Venezuela
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Yeah, he shows his cards by being so ill-equipped to discuss them right just one thing which isn't news
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But it's good to see fun to see
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And then I don't know you just see him doing exactly what you'd expect him to and honestly
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That's even what you'd expect him to do because like before he got the news
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Trump had already said that he recognizes guide Oh so like no matter what happens like no matter what his actual beliefs of it is of
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Course he's going to side with that
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You have these kids. Yeah, that's true. You know the kids from Covington of course Alex is going to defend them
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And say that everyone is just race agitators and shit like that right all of it is so nonsensical and pointless
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Except for the piece where now I think we understand Alex's brain damage
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And I want at least we understand his brain damage in the present day
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That's what I'm talking about maybe different from his brain damage in 2009 right what you know that whatever the brain damage
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He is from like being stuck under that house. There's being fumigated. Yes
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I'm like that what I'm saying like those sorts of like things. I mean who knows that that's
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It's too vague to be meaningful
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This I think is more real and so I would like it to be a conversation on the Facebook group
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If you're if you're there it go home and tell your mother you're brilliant
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Let us know like I want to know what the audience thinks about
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Does that bring an element into this where it's ugly for us to have fun of him?
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Yeah, I think it might I don't know where to land on it
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And and I do value our listeners input, so I I wouldn't
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I'm not saying that whatever you say
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I'm gonna do but I would know I would like external input because it I feel very conflicted about it. I agree and
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Also, Alex wasn't a Satanist here different theory
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Alex has created seven horcruxes
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Alright now
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We know that the way to create a horcrux is to kill because that splits your soul in part. Okay, according to
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JK Rowling just kidding Rowling and we know that he is killed in the past
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dogs
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Humans all of these things so maybe he's just continued to split his soul up too many times until he can't even breathe
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Everybody knows that sleep at Voldemort had a sleep apnea is a direct result of horcruxing interesting
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Scientific I've never read the Harry Potter books, but it's it's good to know that there was a little bit of
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Sleep apnea subplot in there that I missed out on I don't know
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I just I would like people's input because I can't do this on my own
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I can't really find my moral center because if I did I would say we can't talk about him in the present anymore
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Right, I would just say like if left to my own devices, that would be the line
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I take yeah, and I don't think that's the right thing to do
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But I don't fucking know and I don't think you know either. I think we I don't know let us know
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I mean my moral center is
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You are your expansive. Yeah, I
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Person to be like keep making fun of him hit him when he's down
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That is not true. That is not true. Dan. I don't like to I don't punch down. No, I understand that and I
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I that's the I mean the conversation really is are we punching down?
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Exactly, and it's hard to know if that's the case like
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We can see what the the expected impairment is from the condition
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He's describing and you can see that a lot of it is the part that makes
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2019 episodes of Alex Jones worth listening to yeah the stuff where he freaks out and does stuff that's fucking stupid as shit
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right that might all just be a consequence of his
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Like brain damage like this stuff the rest of the stuff is all
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Boring rote. Oh, he doesn't know what he's talking about
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Right, and that's not a good show for us that is we if we exclude ourselves from talking about the stuff
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That is almost clearly a product of his gaba deficiency and glutamine
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Excessiveness, then we we we put ourselves in a box where present-day episodes are
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unlistenable, you know, but that that asks that begs a
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Larger question, which is to what extent does an outsize media influence affect whether or not you're punching down
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You know like okay. So Sean Hannity has a heart attack tomorrow and six months from now. He's back, right and
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You can clearly see that the heart attack has affected him, but he still has 10 million viewers a night
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You know, I I honestly don't think that that measures into my equation because where I'm coming from is just a strict human level
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Yeah that and maybe it's because like I think that a large part of where I'm coming from my hypersensitivity about this
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Comes from when I was in college. I had a professor who had had a stroke
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And he was unable to do his job. He was not able to give lectures
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I remember yeah, and he'd show videos in class of himself in the like mid 80s
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And he was just a perfectly articulate guy. Everything was totally fine
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And then as he would lecture it was just he couldn't communicate anymore because of the effect of that stroke
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Right and there were people in that class that would laugh at him and make fun of him as a lecturer
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And that always really bothered me that idea of like I get that he's bad at doing his job
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Like which is to give a lecture because of something that's not his fault. It's an impairment
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Yeah, and I always got very I was very mad at people who didn't
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Understand that but at the same time I you know was deprived of any meaningful education in class
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But I I look at it
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Look at Alex in the same way now like I look at this like the in the top in the past whenever we've talked about
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These hypothetical brain damage type things they haven't been as concrete as this yeah like the idea that he's expressing that he has to sleep
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Sitting up and that CPAP machines don't work yeah for whatever he has and he needs surgery for his thick-ass neck I
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mean
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That is what leads to the condition he's manifesting. I don't know I don't know yeah
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We don't need we're not yeah, you're right. We shouldn't we shouldn't even bother. We're just we're gonna talk in circles for yeah
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Yeah, no
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It's gonna come back and there's gonna be moral relativism, and it's gonna be a whole massive thing
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Yeah, moral relativism is fine. It's just that I think that we're just going to keep expressing that we don't know
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Yeah, you know. It's just you're right to keep coming back to
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Who knows so sound off let us know what you think I value your input
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And we'll see where we like how the future progresses, but until then we'll be back next week
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No, why don't you put in a little late work and make a few more fucking buttons?
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It's not my button machine dance your girlfriend will let you use that that would be rude to presume upon her. Holy shit
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Anyway, all right um look. We've made it to the end of this yeah
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I had a lot of Roger Daltrey it seems like he's into brexit, and I'm not not thrilled with that
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But I bet he hasn't killed anybody
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I don't know if that's true you just think that of everybody who's ever lived a fun rock star life
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You think they probably killed somebody?
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Life if you haven't killed anybody I've never heard any evidence that Roger Daltrey's killed somebody
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But one guy that I've heard some evidence that he has technically probably killed a dude. Oh, yeah, that's Alex Joe. Oh no
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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
