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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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Hi Jordan.
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Dan, what's the last documentary you watched?
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Last documentary I watched was The Obama Dissension.
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Yeah, that's a loaded question to ask.
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I mean before that I guess some documentary series on Netflix.
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Yeah.
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Probably that criminal mastermind one or whatever.
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I don't remember that one.
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There's that one about the guy who showed up at a bank with like a bomb around his neck.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I've heard of that.
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Yeah, that one was crazy.
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I think I watched the one where the Irish...
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The Nun?
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Yeah.
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No, no, not The Nun.
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The Nun's a horror movie.
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No, no, no, I mean the one about The Nun.
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The one about The Nun.
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The sister, oh boy.
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Yeah, that shit was fucked up.
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Yeah, that was crazy.
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God damn it Irish.
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Good work Netflix, doing some decent stuff.
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I tried to watch that one about the staircase, the lady who fell down the staircase.
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Couldn't do it.
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I watched two episodes and I'm like, there are so many more of these episodes.
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Couldn't do it.
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I can't do this.
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Nope, I was out.
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And that's coming from me, a guy who has spent the last, oh, very long time watching The
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Obama Deception for this episode.
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Today, guys, this is very exciting.
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I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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And we carry that into what we're here to do today.
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In the spirit of thanking our donors and the people who make this show possible, we have
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been tasked with breaking down the entirety of Alex Jones's 2009 documentary, in heavy
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quotes, documentary, The Obama Deception.
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I like to think of this as the spiritual end of a season somewhat on our show.
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The last one we did was Endgame probably about six months ago or so.
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Something along those lines.
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And now we've come to another sort of, I don't think there was anything groundbreaking that
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happened right before we did Endgame, but I feel like we're entering a new era of covering
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Alex Jones with us finding that clip from the 90s where he's talking about the leaderless
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resistance.
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I think that's going to take my research into a whole different ballpark where I'm pretty
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convinced he's been interested in white supremacist groups for the entirety of his career.
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I think that changes a lot for me.
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Maybe even in life?
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Maybe.
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So that changes a lot for me and especially the context in which I look at him.
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And so it's only fitting that we end this season with an exhaustive breakdown of one
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of his documentaries and our listeners chose this.
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I wouldn't have chosen this.
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I probably would have gone with-
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You've made your feelings clear on how you feel about The Obama Deception.
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I probably would have gone with something else, but I honor the wishes of the people
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who are so wonderful and support us.
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And so here we are.
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Have you ever seen The Obama Deception?
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Good God, no.
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What?
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Why would I even consider seeing The Obama Deception?
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I don't know.
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It has a catchy title.
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Is that all?
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That is kind of all you need at the end of the day.
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Yeah, kind of.
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I don't know.
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I watched it when I was younger and smoked a lot of weed and I don't think I was convinced
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of anything back when we watched it.
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But it was like, oh, that's wild.
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I think that was probably my response to it.
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Is that the conclusion of all of your research today?
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Good God, no.
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Oh, that's wild.
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No.
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I spent a lot of my time when I was younger and stupider and smoked a lot of weed watching
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really long things on YouTube.
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It was kind of a habit of mine, like a little pastime.
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And so The Obama Deception was just one of many really stupid long conspiracy videos
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that I watched and discarded out of hand.
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I didn't realize anything about it.
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And now having gone through it, I realize that this documentary is wall to wall one
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of the stupidest things.
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It's so much worse than Endgame.
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Okay.
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Endgame was a nightmare.
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Endgame was awful.
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We talked about Endgame for nine hours when we did our last documentary coverage.
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And that was all about a fucking road.
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It was mostly about a road and then FEMA camps and a lot of that stuff.
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And I think there will probably come in maybe about the same on this.
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You think so?
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But the experience of going over, and I don't want to complain up top or anything like that,
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but the experience of going over this and watching this documentary with a critical
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eye was brutal.
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Yeah.
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It sucked.
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And not because I love Obama or something like that.
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I'm so grateful for the setup of this show.
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All of the research that I had to do with none.
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You had to show up with a six-pack.
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That's what you had to do.
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Which I appreciate too.
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And do my best to avoid starting drinking it now at 11 o'clock in the morning or whatever
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it is.
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As is the tradition on our documentary coverage, we will try not to drink quick.
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Well, we might.
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We'll probably fail.
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It depends on how awful the first 15 minutes in.
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That was the situation with the last documentary.
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I'll warn you, we are going to have to pause probably 20 times in the first minute.
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Okay.
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So get ready for that.
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Because this is a lot of bullshit.
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All right.
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Are you ready to get going, Jordan?
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Yeah.
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And also to all of the new listeners who are joining up with the team.
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Oh, yeah.
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Very weird timing, but thank you so much to Robert Evans.
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Oh, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Our episode came out last week, and we've seen a lot of influx of people checking us
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out from there.
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We have a lot of episodes that aren't as very singularly focused as these ones will be.
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So if you'd like more of our regular show, please check out the back catalog, but also
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enjoy this.
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Yeah.
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My advice, start at the beginning, and then over the next six months, you might catch
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up to where we are right now.
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Maybe.
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We've made a lot of episodes, haven't we?
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And don't binge too hard.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no, no.
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Because even though, and I've heard this from listeners and I agree, even though we're making
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fun of Alex and talking about what he's lying about and stuff like that, there's still a
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corrosive toxic effect of listening to tons of Alex Jones.
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Oh, for sure.
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And I wouldn't wish that on anybody who's not named me.
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So-
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Hell, my psychic powers have been eroded beyond measure.
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Please be careful even with our show, which is probably not the best thing for me to say
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as someone who hopes for our show to succeed.
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Listen, we want to grow and we want to be at the best possible place, but it is our
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strident position that you should not listen to this show.
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Too much.
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Don't-
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Now, run.
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Be careful.
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Run now.
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Don't even bother.
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So, any final thoughts, Jordan, before we jump in here?
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Any wishes, any hopes?
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Dan, if this is the last time we see each other alive.
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Tell everybody they were decent.
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Good luck, yeah.
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All right, here we go.
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Let's begin.
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So, we start with a shot of the inauguration.
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Yeah.
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The crowds at the National Mall.
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So much smaller, those crowds, than Trump's crowds, right?
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Yeah, totally.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sea of people happy.
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There's Michelle, looking great.
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There's John Boehner, hoping for his death.
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Contrary to the rumors that you've heard, I was not born in a manger.
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Dude, that is fucking great.
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And sent here to save the planet Earth.
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So, this, I already got to stop, because Alex is playing that clip as some sort of, like,
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means of being, like, he's full of himself.
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It's some sort of, like, I am Superman.
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I've come here to save the world.
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But he fails to recognize or point out in any way that this is a clip that was taken
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from Obama's appearance at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation dinner.
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That dinner is a traditional stop on the campaign trail, where candidates from both parties
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give speeches and are encouraged to poke fun at each other and themselves.
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Since the dinner's founding in 1954, every candidate who would go on to win the election,
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with the exception of Harry Truman and Bill Clinton, have appeared and given humorous speeches.
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It's a big-ticket fundraiser, and it's a high-end Catholic charity.
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And other than their clear discomfort with supporters of abortion, talking about Bill Clinton there,
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the Foundation tries to keep the event nonpolitical and convivial.
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Some of the other jokes Obama made that night, quote,
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I feel right at home here, because it's been said that I share the politics of Alfred E. Smith
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and the ears of Alfred E. Newman.
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Good joke.
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Kills.
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Another one, quote,
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Al Smith, I never knew your great-grandfather, but from everything Senator McCain has told me,
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the two of them had a great time together before Prohibition.
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Boom. Got him.
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This is like one of the old roasts that you can see,
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where they're just fucking drunk telling terrible jokes at each other.
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And Obama's delivery is amazing.
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Yeah, no, he's got a good delivery.
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I would recommend everybody go watch that entire speech, because it is genuinely funny.
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Here's another one of his jokes.
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I mean, those jokes, you're not pulling hot fire, Dan.
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Here's another one of his jokes, which may be a little bit controversial nowadays.
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Quote, I have never put lipstick on a pig, because that's something he was accused of before.
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I've never put lipstick on a pig, or a dog, or myself.
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That's one for Rudy Giuliani.
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Who would have thought the cross-dressing mayor of New York would have a hard time winning the Republican nomination?
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Oh, shit!
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And he looks over at John McCain.
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That was a real tough primary you had there, John.
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Alright, that's not bad.
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That's not bad. I'll give him that one.
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Here's the last one of the jokes that I chose.
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Quote, some of the rumors out there are getting a bit crazy.
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Fox News actually accused me of having fathered two African-American children in wedlock.
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Okay. Alright.
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Anyway, Obama's speech at the Alfred Smith dinner was a masterpiece, from my perspective,
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and he took accusations that were thrown at him and commented on them with humor and grace.
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By the time of the dinner on October 16, 2008, the birther's conspiracies were already running wild.
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Jerome Corsi was already appearing all over Fox News to claim that the short-form birth certificate that had been released was a fake.
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Alex opening his clip with this clip of Barack Obama clearly telling a joke about malicious accusations.
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People who are associates of Alex were making should give you a sense of where this documentary is on a spiritual level.
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Even more...
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So he's playing that clip over Obama's inauguration.
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And he's even got Obama giving his inaugural speech.
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So clearly what he's trying to do is make it look like Obama said this even at his inauguration.
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And while that's going on, I'm like, I don't remember him being fucking hilarious at his inauguration speech.
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It's that term that Alex uses all the time.
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It's that he's trying to anchor these ideas in your head.
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The idea of the inauguration and the idea of like, I'm Superman. I've come here to save the world.
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And it's incongruous and it was clearly in a humorous speech.
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And even then, it makes sense as a joke.
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Even if you're trying to paint him as some sort of like, I'm so full of myself.
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It's self-deprecating.
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It's clearly hilarious.
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Why did he leave in the laughter?
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I don't know about that.
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He might not have edited this.
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So that's on the editor. Anyway...
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We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.
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So that's from a speech Obama gave on July 2, 2008 in Colorado Springs.
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And Alex deprives that quote of any context.
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Around that clip that he just played, Obama said, quote,
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We're going to grow our foreign service, open consulates that have been shuttered
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and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.
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We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.
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We know from listening to Alex's show in 2009 that he's trying to imply that Obama wants to create a civilian army that would patrol America as his jackbooted thugs.
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And he's trying to use this very selectively edited clip to demonstrate that.
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From knowing the sentence that came right before the one Alex used, however,
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you can clearly see that what he's talking about is not using military might as the sole avenue towards reaching our goals,
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re-establishing a focus on diplomacy, which I would think Alex would be super into given his anti-foreign wars position.
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But oh well.
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Let me just stress that through the entire speech, Obama keeps saying that service to others and the community are really important,
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that he intends to ask people to embrace service, not that he intends to force anyone to.
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So that's an important clarification.
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Here's what I am already predicting for this entire documentary.
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Me reading a lot?
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Well, yeah, we are 41 seconds in and you have paused it three times.
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No, my prediction is that regardless of how evil he is trying to paint Obama and regardless of my feelings on Obama's presidency,
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which are at best mixed, at best mixed, I am going to miss Obama so hard.
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I'm going to miss Obama.
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I already miss Obama.
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Listen to him talk.
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Listen to him talk.
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That was the president.
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He sounds so smart and good and he's funny.
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Well, I'll say that this ends up being a lot less about Obama than you might expect in the title of the documentary.
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It seems like it should be all about Obama.
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It seems like it should be.
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Or at least his deception.
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It's not really.
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Anyway.
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Everybody somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25 will serve three months of basic training.
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We've got to have a civilian.
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Alright.
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God damn it.
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The clip of Rahm Emanuel that he just played there is taken from an appearance Rahm made in 2006 on C-SPAN 2's Afterwords program
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to promote a book he co-wrote called The Plan, Big Ideas for America.
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Honestly, a lot of the interview is about how he wants to help families pay for their kids' college
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because the investment in human capital pays off for the larger society at a higher rate than any other kind of investment.
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He also spends a lot of time talking about working to get rid of corporate welfare.
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Quote, we're in a long struggle against terrorism and America is a target.
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And therefore, one of the best ways to prepare America is to bring citizens forward in understanding what their role is going to be.
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Everything from if the levees break to if there's a chemical attack in this country or some other type of attack,
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what role they have in training the citizens.
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Everybody between the ages of 18 to 25 will serve three months of basic training in understanding a kind of civil defense.
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The important thing to remember here is this is just an idea that Rahm and his co-author had,
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not something that ever got put into legislation.
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He wrote this book and that appearance was in 2006.
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Right. Well before. Well before.
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Until right around when Obama won, he backed Hillary.
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Yeah.
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So this is nonsense.
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I am already furious with Alex because I do not ever, ever, ever want to defend Rahm Emanuel from anything.
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That guy can go fucking die.
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I don't give a shit. Why are you making me defend Rahm Emanuel?
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As citizens of Chicago, we have a particular dislike of the man.
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And yeah, I think, you know, all kinds of criticisms of him are very valid.
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Oh yeah.
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And this just isn't one of them.
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If you want to say that the idea that he was expressing in that book is dumb, you could have that argument if you want.
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It's a dumb idea.
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Sure, I think there's some utility to it possibly, but I think it probably would be a system that would be cumbersome and impossible to implement.
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So, I mean, you can't even get everyone to go to school.
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How are you going to get them to then do community service through school?
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You're not going to be able to do it.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, it's high-minded but misguided.
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And everything he said that you just described there, he completely did not do.
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Right.
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When he was given any opportunity for power.
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Right. You betcha.
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Oh, also, we pause it right in the middle here, but this clip that Obama is saying is that we need a civilian force.
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Right.
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Equivalent to the army.
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He's talking about the Peace Corps.
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Yeah.
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In context, he's just talking about the Peace Corps.
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Yeah.
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Alex is pretending that it's some sort of nefarious group.
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Great.
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The civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong.
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Youth brigades.
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Youth brigades.
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Yes, we can.
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Yes, we can.
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Obama's health care plan will include coverage of all essential medical services.
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Yes, we can.
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So, Alex is-
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What the fuck was that?
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Alex played a clip of a bunch of African-American children in sort of a stepping routine, like step dancing routine, talking about Obama's plan and chanting, yes, we can.
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This, to me, is without a doubt a visual dog whistle.
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Oh, no.
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Are you saying that Alex is trying to make you feel afraid of any large group of black children getting together and moving in unison?
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You bet.
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Oh, odd.
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Even if they're just children?
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Hey, dude.
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Alex just opened his film with multiple lies and distortions about the idea of Obama creating his own personal army, and then the next clip he plays is of black youths chanting in support of Obama.
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There's no question what image he wanted to put in the audience's head with that.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's very obvious.
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An army of black people coming to take their guns.
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You bet.
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Yep.
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That video was taken from a YouTube video that an anonymous uploader posted on October 2, 2008.
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The full video shows children one by one expressing what career path they intended to pursue because they were inspired by Obama.
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After that procession...
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I want to commit white genocide.
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Mostly being an architect.
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Oh, mostly being an architect.
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What could be a better job than the architect of a white genocide?
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The architecture of...
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Yeah.
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After the procession, the children recite facts about Obama's healthcare plan.
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Immediately after this video got posted, people got real pissed, and kind of understandably, I guess, it does appear to be indoctrination of children.
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Eh.
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But the boys were students at the Urban Community Leadership Academy in Kansas City, Missouri.
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Joyce McGough, the superintendent of the school, noted that they were not going to release the name of the teacher of the students because they were likely going to pursue legal action.
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At issue was the fact that the teacher was having the students study Obama's healthcare plan but not also McCain's, not that they ended up doing the chanting.
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That would be totally fine.
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Probably more important as an aspect of the story is that the Urban Community Leadership Academy was a charter school, which was described as a failed experiment by the 2014 report by the network of public education due to endemic patterns of fraud and scamming systematic within charter schools used to make a profit off educating children.
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No.
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The Urban Community Leadership Academy is likely one such school, or I should say it was.
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It closed in 2012 by the Missouri State Auditor found after the school had been notified by their sponsor, the University of Central Missouri, that they were intending to allow their sponsorship to lapse, that $117,980 in school funds was unaccounted for.
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Even under subpoena, the school's business manager could not find receipts to justify the claimed purchases.
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You kind of have to assume that this wasn't the only incident of conveniently sloppy record keeping they ever got up to.
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That's the bigger issue that I see here than this YouTube video.
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It's a corrupt organization.
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Like most charter schools.
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That's what I care about more here than these kids chanting about Obama.
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Also, come on, man.
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You can study Obama's healthcare plan because it's in-depth and it's complicated.
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McCain's plan was super simple.
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For one night every year, all crime is legal.
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Right.
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And 9-9-9-
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Those are McCain.
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Also, they're just assuming that the teacher didn't teach them both plans and the kids were like, I like Obama's more.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that's the case.
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I'm not saying it is.
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I have no idea.
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But, you know, the thing that I really feel bad about here is that there's an element of abuse within this.
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And that's based on the fact that these kids were put into this situation.
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They're the faces that appear in this documentary specifically to spread fear of militant black youths, not the teacher who is presumably the adult in the situation.
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So I just feel like it's wrong of Alex to do this because those kids don't deserve to be put into this documentary as a source of fear for Alex's viewers.
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That's not true.
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They got points on the back end.
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Oh, did they?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Of the documentary Alex is putting out for free on YouTube?
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They got points on the back end, that's for sure.
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Great.
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For all the licensing.
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Great.
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Great.
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Let me tell you something.
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Their action figures could not keep them on the shelves.
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So now at this point we meet one of the main scholars of this documentary, a gentleman by the name of Webster Tarpley.
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Who looks exactly like the fat crypt keeper.
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We'll get into him a little bit down the road, but here is his introduction to the fray.
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Obama is a cruel hoax.
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He works for Wall Street.
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He's an agent of finance capital.
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Where did you come up with the number $700 billion?
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Here's the treasury spokeswoman's quote.
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It's not based on any particular data point.
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We just really wanted to come up with a really big number.
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The Democrats and Republicans who have opposed this plan, I say step up to the plate.
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A few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.
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You're goddamn right there, Wilby.
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Real quick, that is California Representative Brad Sherman speaking on the floor in 2008 about the initial bailout bill.
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Which is before Obama was elected.
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Alex is playing fast and loose with that quote about being threatened with martial law.
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It's not so much that anyone in Congress was threatened with martial law.
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It's more a situation where the consequences of not acting were so severe that some people felt that things could get bad enough.
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That our entire economy would go belly up.
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That's what Representative Sherman is saying.
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And I know this.
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You know how I know this?
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Jordan, do you know how I know this?
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How do you know it?
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Because on October 14th, 2008, Brad Sherman went on Alex Jones' show.
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God damn it!
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And this exchange occurred.
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Alex's quote.
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Specifically, sir, we need to know names.
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Who told you that they were told that martial law and blood in the streets, as you say, would happen?
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Brad.
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Private conversations between members on the floor.
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You really can't reveal that without the permission of the other party.
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Alex.
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I understand.
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But were there arm twisters coming up?
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Were they scared?
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I mean, how was it said specifically?
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Brad.
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I think these were people who really believed what they were saying.
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I don't think these people who got called by Goldman Sachs and said, go say this or go say that.
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The panic takes a life of its own.
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One person says the market will drop 2,000 points.
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Somebody else says 2,500.
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Somebody else says 3,000.
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Somebody else says unemployment will immediately jump to 9%.
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Alex.
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It spreads.
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It gets worse and worse.
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Brad.
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I don't think there was, or at least I'm not aware of this being carefully orchestrated.
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So he made an appearance on Alex's show and contradicted the version that Alex presents of his idea that they were threatened with martial law.
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Alex got what he wants.
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More or less, but he never mentions that on October 14th, 2008, the very guy was on his show.
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It was more people saying that there could be bad consequences, but no one had their arm twisted and threatened by Goldman Sachs representatives.
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It's fucking bullshit.
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Here is my new plan.
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I don't think we've ever read transcripts of the show before.
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I wanted to print them out so we could do it as a duo.
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See, now I'm thinking we need to do a live stage reading of one of his shows.
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I wouldn't be against it.
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I think that's a great idea.
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I think the blocking would be real easy to get down.
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Just sitting here flailing and yelling.
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And one of us doesn't get to have a shirt.
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That's definitely, I think I would have to play Alex, right?
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Yeah, no one wants to see me without a shirt.
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Very hairy.
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Come on.
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Very hirsute.
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That's not kind.
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You look like Robin Williams.
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That's not, ooh, never mind.
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So the punchline of this is that once Brad Sherman gets off the phone with Alex on that appearance,
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Alex starts to mischaracterize the conversation immediately, saying, quote,
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There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
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Yeah, there were people on the floor saying they were told there would be martial law and literal blood on the streets if this didn't happen.
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They were told this, but I can't tell you who told me.
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He's trying to already spin this into the narrative that he wants.
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Fun fact, Brad Sherman is a gun-grabbing, LGBT-supporting, abortion-defending dude with 100% rating from the National Organization of Women,
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100% rating from the ACLU, and in July 12th, 2017, he introduced articles of impeachment against Donald Trump.
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Wait, what?
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Yeah.
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That's Brad Sherman?
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Yeah.
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What?
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Yeah.
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So Alex has his documentary, which is kind of funny to me, a little bit.
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That is weird.
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Yeah, there's a number of people who...
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A 100% rating from the N.O.W.?
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Yep.
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I'm not a fucker. I did not know Brad Sherman was dope.
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There's a number of people who are in this documentary who have really funny codas to their career.
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Yeah.
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Now, where we're about to go with this next clip is one of the...
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In preparation of this documentary, I sincerely went down some weird rabbit holes that may have nothing to do with this documentary.
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Of course, of course.
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But some of the stories are so absurd that they must be told, and this is one of them.
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Here we have Louie Gohmert on the floor talking shit about Henry Paulson, and then we have a picture of Ben Bernanke.
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Yeah.
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All of whom can go die.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Secretary Henry Paulson is no George Washington.
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Now, that is an...
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That's actually true.
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Sure.
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That is the first true thing we have heard so far in this documentary, and Alex did not say it.
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Now, that is a stray quote and certainly doesn't deserve us to talk about it.
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Louie Gohmert doesn't come back up in this documentary, but I got so...
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Who cares?
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What's up with Louie Gohmert?
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I'm not here to defend Henry Paulson, but I will say that Louie Gohmert also is no George Washington.
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Okay.
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If anyone wants some real good fun, Google Louie Gohmert terror babies and watch the clip of Gohmert freaking out for seven minutes
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because Anderson Cooper doesn't believe a conspiracy that Louie Gohmert is pushing that terrorists are having anchor babies here
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so they can stay and do terrorism years down the line.
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Anderson Cooper has such a hard time not laughing.
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It is one of the funniest things I've ever watched.
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And this is before the Americans came out.
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Mm-hmm.
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In 2013, the Advocate awarded Louie Gohmert a Phobia Award for being one of the biggest homophobes of the year.
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This was the result of him defending his position that you shouldn't be able to regulate guns
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because gay marriage is the same thing as bestiality, I think.
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His quote...
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Okay.
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Quote, and the problem is once you draw a limit in terms of like capacity magazine size, it's kind of like marriage.
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When you say it's not a man and a woman anymore, then why not have three men and a woman or four women and a man
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or why not someone who has a love for an animal?
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Cool.
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Okay.
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Good thinking.
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So somehow, his argument is you can't regulate guns because you're regulating marriage.
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But he's angling it so he thinks you're deregulating marriage.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so deregulating guns is better?
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Something like that.
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Is worse?
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But he was just trying...
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I don't understand how that tracks at all.
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It doesn't.
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All he was doing was trying to bridge a gap to bestiality somehow.
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Yeah.
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So he could make a stupid point.
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Also, in 2013, Gohmert argued that terrorists were sneaking into the country by pretending to be Mexican immigrants
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because, quote, we don't have any fear of Hispanics coming into the country.
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Uh, boy, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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He went on to clarify that he doesn't want to stop Mexican labor from coming into the country, saying, quote,
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I'd like to keep having fruit.
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I'm a big fruit fan.
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I'd like to keep having...
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I just now thought of a great idea for a TV show.
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Okay.
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Take this pitch.
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I love it.
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It's been a while since we've had a good show pitch.
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It's been a while since we've had a good show pitch.
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Here we go.
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It's a great TV show based on the redacted pages from the 9-11 report.
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We'll call it Terror Muppet Babies.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then, uh, ooh.
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Khaleed Shibuya is the legs.
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Okay, I can see this.
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So in 2013, that same year, Gohmert was part of a very weird visit to Egypt to meet with the soon-to-be-installed
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President-General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, who had just led a successful coup d'état and had Morsi, the erstwhile president, arrested.
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Protests ensued from Morsi supporters, and not surprisingly, in the wake of the coup, headed up by a general, some killings of civilians started.
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No, come on.
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That never happens.
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On August 14, 2013, el-Sisi's forces raided two camps of protesters in Cairo after they'd been engaging in a six-week-long sit-in.
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Human Rights Watch described what ensued as, quote, one of the worst, uh, one of the world's largest killings of demonstrators in a single day in recent history,
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and put the death toll at at least 817, but likely more than a thousand people.
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Jesus!
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Less than a month later, Louie Gohmert visited to give el-Sisi congratulations on performing the coup.
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Good work.
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For reasons I can't explain other than just to shrug and say tea party, he was joined on the trip by noted weirdo Michelle Bachmann and outright Nazi representative Steve King.
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What a weird convoy.
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What is going on?
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Why?
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All right, new road movie.
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We're going to be doing a lot of road movies if this is the case right here.
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Okay.
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So Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, and Louie Gohmert get in a plane, fly over to congratulate a military dictator, uh, committing a coup, which ostensibly America is for?
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And this is after, this is after he killed all those demonstrators.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And this is, wait, this is 2013, so this is way after the square.
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Jesus, that's fucked up.
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Because many of the pro-Morsi protesters who were massacred were members of the Muslim Brotherhood, Bachmann took it upon herself to blame the Muslim Brotherhood for doing 9-11.
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This is hard to grasp, for one, because it's not true, and two, because the Muslim Brotherhood publicly and strongly condemned the attacks of 9-11.
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Anyway, the reason I bring all this up is that on that trip, Louie Gohmert said this, quote,
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George Washington, doing what no one had ever done before him, led a military in revolution, won the revolution, and then resigned and went home.
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And we met in General El-Sisi, a man who is a leader of the military who might have a shot at being elected president, but is more concerned about giving his life to help his country, Egypt.
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Henry Paulson is no George Washington, but apparently El-Sisi is, according to Louie Gohmert.
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How was El-Sisi's record following this, Dan? I seem to recall he was a benevolent God King.
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I will tell you this, he would go on to win the presidency in overwhelming fashion, bringing in 96% of the vote.
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That is definitely not a suspicious amount.
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He was also not running unopposed, so it wasn't just like...
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It is super odd how many dictators win by 95 plus percent of the vote.
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He is still a president today in Egypt, and Human Rights Watch has described his government as having, quote,
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worked to eradicate independent civil society in the country.
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Congratulations, Louie Gohmert.
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If anyone questions Mr. Kashkari that you're working hard, our question is who you're working for.
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Obama pledged that he would resume the security and prosperity partnership talks between Mexico and Canada that President Bush...
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Now we're back to the road.
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The old boss looks a lot like the new boss.
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Watch out for that road.
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He's going to remain on the job as defense secretary for at least a year.
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At this point, I'm just kind of letting it go.
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...told us and others that it was at Hillary Clinton's house, but clearly...
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Just because we've set a precedent now of pausing so frequently, let me just say a lot of this stuff is going to be stuff that comes up later.
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Gotcha.
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I'm not ignoring this as much as...
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Real quick.
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When was this?
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This was released in 2009.
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I believe March, early March 2009.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Obama became president in January.
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That's a fundamental problem that we're going to have to deal with as this goes along, yes.
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So as far as... did he include anything post-inauguration other than video of the inauguration?
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I know for a fact that some of these interviews were taped after Obama was inaugurated.
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Okay.
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Because KRS-1 is about to pop up.
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We know KRS-1 is about to go off.
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And we know from our podcast episodes that we've listened to in 2009 when Alex met KRS-1.
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Yeah.
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That was after the election.
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So he shot that stuff.
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It's a huge, huge problem that he rushed this to market, as it were.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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That's not good.
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You should give him a couple weeks.
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Yeah.
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No big deal.
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It's crazy.
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Also, I wish Big Daddy Kane was on Infowars.
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That would be great.
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That would be great.
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We do have a second rapper who shows up.
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Oh, yeah?
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I'm going to let that be a mystery for now.
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Okay.
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God damn it.
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It's not Big Daddy Kane.
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Talib Kweli?
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It wasn't.
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We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of
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us would like to see.
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We see you causing a depression so you can blow out the economy and consolidate it and
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bankrupt it.
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We know that you are enemies of free humanity.
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Good luck.
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All right.
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Hold on one second.
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Uh-huh.
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You know, while he was talking, there was a big audible cheer?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He was not talking to a rally.
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That was edited in there.
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Almost certainly.
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He was talking by himself.
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Yes.
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Almost.
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With no one cheering at all.
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And we're just showing B-roll over this of like army troops and maps of the world.
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Obama looking menacing.
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Well, actually here, what we have here is like a weird animation from this documentary.
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That looks like an animation.
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And I think Alex blew his budget on it and refused to take it out because I have one
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piece of information that is really crucial to this.
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And you'll see here, as the camera pans out, we see that this isn't just an animation of
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Barack Obama.
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It's a group shot.
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So here we have Tim Geithner, we have Robert Gates over here, we have Rahm Emanuel.
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Importantly here is Tom Daschle.
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Well, fuck that guy too, but eh.
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Tom Daschle was nominated for Secretary of Health and Human Services, but by the time
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this documentary came out, he had already withdrawn his name from consideration because
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of tax problems.
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So I think that Alex blew his budget on this shoddy, awful animation and just refused to
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change it by the time it came out because eh, fuck it, throw Tom Daschle in there.
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Who cares?
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Why not?
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It's embarrassing.
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This is embarrassing.
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Title card.
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We finally got a title, baby.
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The Obama deception.
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The truth strikes back.
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I got a, I got a turntable going.
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Alex is actually going to kiss his sister in this sequel.
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All presidents are including Bush.
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It's like this.
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When your fries are cold, if your burger's not done right, you go back to Burger King,
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America, or your government, and you say, my burger's cold, I want new fries.
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First, you go to the cashier.
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That's the courts.
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This is an extended simile.
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The courts, if you can't get no justice with the cashier, you say, let me see the manager.
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I want to go to the Supreme Court.
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I want to see the president.
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That's not the way that goes, but okay.
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What can I do for you?
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Not a manager can override the decisions of the cashier, but you never get.
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I am just hungry now.
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KRS owner of Burger King.
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If you really have a problem with your burger, you need to go see the franchise owner.
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We need to go to the top or to the bottom.
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We need to go to where the real architecture of government is.
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See, I like to let people speak their piece.
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That's why I didn't interrupt that convoluted load of bullshit.
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I don't know who actually is what in that analogy.
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That metaphor doesn't work for so many different reasons.
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First of all is the idea that, okay, so the cashier is the courts.
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Your burger's cold, metaphorically.
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But if your burger's cold, you ask for new fries.
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I'll leave that part alone.
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That I'll allow.
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That part is whatever something's cold.
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You have a complaint.
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You go to the courts.
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They're like, nah.
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So then you go to the president?
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Even if it gets escalated to the Supreme Court, you don't go then to the president.
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That's not how it works.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
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That's a fundamental lack of understanding of civics and how things go.
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Now, the second problem that I have with this is if your burger's cold, the cashier can help you.
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The store manager can help you if the cashier isn't helpful.
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The franchise owner doesn't have time for that shit.
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That's not the problem for the franchise owner.
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Yeah.
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What is the franchise owner in this?
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It's the president?
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No, that would be the globalists.
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Oh, it's the globalists.
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The globalists and the international bankers are the franchise owner.
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And then the president is the store manager.
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The cashier is the courts.
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It's all ridiculous.
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I'm not going to lie to you, one of my favorite things is hip-hop artists' conspiracy theories and how the government works.
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If you listen to the RZA talk about the government, it is the funniest fucking thing you've ever heard in your life.
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Well, because it sounds good until you think about it a little bit.
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For one second.
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And you're like, no, no.
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And look, I'm fine.
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Reagan did introduce crack to the black community.
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That's obvious.
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Everybody knows that.
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No doubt.
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But I want to like Harris. I don't want to not like him.
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But if he's displaying this level of, first of all, lack of awareness of how our government works while making substantive complaints about said government.
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Right.
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And then also demonstrates this kind of inability to wrestle with inference.
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The metaphor that he's making is so shoddy.
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If I were him, I'd be like, don't put that in the documentary.
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That would make no sense coming out of my mouth.
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If you were making a metaphor, a good one, you don't need to then explain which part each individual thing is.
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You know, you don't have to be like, and then you go to the cashier, the courts.
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Like a good metaphor kind of explains itself.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, you'd hope.
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You'd hope that the, whatever the analogy you're making is like, oh, that's clear.
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I want some new fries.
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I've always admired Kara's one.
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I still think a lot of his music is great.
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But if someone make this kind of bad analogy to explain their political philosophy,
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you really need to take a step back and assess whether they are someone or someone who you shouldn't listen to.
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Not in terms of their music, but in terms of their opinions.
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This is ludicrous.
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It's not ludicrous.
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Ludicrous is great in the Fast and Furious movies.
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Also, it's important.
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Yeah, but you haven't heard his politics.
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That's true.
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That's fair.
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I'll hold off on that.
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Also, it's important to point out that five months after this interview with Alex that he is doing right now,
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Kara's one released a 600 page book called, quote, The Gospel of Hip Hop, the first instrument.
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In promoting the book, he said, quote, I'm suggesting that in 100 years this book will be the new religion on Earth.
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I respect Christianity, the Islam, the Judaism, but their time is up.
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He certainly has every right to start his own music based religion, so I'm not going to knock that.
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I fucking love that.
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I just prefer more music based religion.
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Sure.
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Hell yeah.
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It's funny that Alex Jones, the guy who can't stop yelling about how Christians are under attack,
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is perfectly fine promoting this guy who's actively trying to start a religion because, quote, Christianity's time is up.
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It should be.
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It's crazy.
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All of these people, Alex has no idea who the people he associates with are.
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No.
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It's hilarious.
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He's such a user.
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Like, he gets what he wants out of people and then he discards them whole cloth.
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Yeah.
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It's disappointing.
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It's not in a precedent.
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It's in a global scheme.
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Politics in America today is identical to pro wrestling.
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Got Jesse Ventura here.
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And what I mean by that is in front of the cameras and the public, we all hate each other.
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I'm going to kick my opponent's butt.
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Why is Willie Nelson here?
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Why isn't Willie Nelson everywhere?
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And beat the crap out of him.
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Yet behind the scenes, we had all our friends going out to dinner.
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Went to dinner together.
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What?
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It's all in our marriage.
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Sheldon.
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It's showbiz.
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And that's what you have to do in politics.
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The Democrats and Republicans aren't really opposed to each other.
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So I like, first of all, it's hilarious that Willie Nelson is just sitting there and just
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like, yeah, yeah, going to dinner.
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No, they go to dinner.
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Hell yeah.
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And Willie Nelson doesn't come back in this documentary at all.
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Jesse Ventura barely does.
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It's just like he's there sitting in the tour bus.
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And what he's expressing is like, politics is like a Burger King franchise.
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If your fries are cold.
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It would be so great if everybody gave the same metaphor.
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Every single person is just like, have you heard KRS-One's opinion on this?
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Now I was talking to a hip hopper the other day and he told me about this great metaphor
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about fast food.
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While we were at a Burger King.
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So now the other thing I want to point out is that like saying that Republicans and Democrats
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act like opposing forces, but behind the scenes they get along.
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That's how I want the fucking government to work.
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This isn't show business.
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It's just humans disagreeing civilly.
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This is the way that I would like things to work.
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The idea that one side believes position X, the other side believes position Y, but they're
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both good people and can share a stake and talk about their families or golf scores or
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whatever the fuck.
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That's how the world should operate.
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Right.
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But Alex is painting this as not what Jesse is saying, which is like, Hey, everybody in
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public hates each other, but then we hang out in private.
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He's trying to paint it.
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He's trying to paint it as he's talking about pro wrestling.
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Exactly.
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But Alex is trying to paint it as in private.
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We all believe the same shit.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Not, not we're civil and we're hanging out like a what Ginsburg and Scalia before he
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absolutely not tragically passed.
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He was murdered by the Illuminati.
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Thank God.
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But the first good thing the Illuminati's ever done.
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The other thing that this simplistic look at things does is it discounts and takes away
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the entire idea that like you and I could disagree on one, maybe even fairly major position,
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but have a lot of other common ground.
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Oh yeah.
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And we could get together on like policy A, B, and C, but disagree on F, G, and H.
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Right.
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There's no reason that that's like, you don't have to be ideologues all the time.
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Like on everything, most people or at least in a perfect world.
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It would make, it would make more sense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It would make more sense if everybody was like, uh, we understand that climate change
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is the biggest issue right now, but I still disagree on taxes.
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You know, that'd be great if everybody could figure out where they come together instead
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of our side says you suck.
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So everything you do sucks.
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Yeah.
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It's a, it's a, it's a trouble.
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Left and right mean nothing.
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The only thing that counts is are you working for wall street or you're trying to defend
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the people against the financier?
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Got Joe Rogan ladies and gentlemen.
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Pretty obvious that there's some gigantic financial institutions that have been pulling
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the strings of politicians in this country for a long time.
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Hey, there's Arch Barker's name.
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We have it set up where they can donate millions of dollars to these guys' funds, these guys'
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campaigns.
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So we not expect it at all to go bad.
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This is two things.
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Back when Joe Rogan had hair and whenever he wasn't fucking insane.
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Well, he was still fucking insane, but that makes sense.
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This is also the only appearance that Rogan makes in this documentary because I suspect
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that in 2009 Alex didn't know that he would soon be one of the most popular people in
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the world.
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Otherwise he would have begged him to be all over this documentary.
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And also what Joe's expressing there is right on.
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Excessive money flooding into politics is a recipe for disaster.
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But, Jordan, the logical conclusion of that is not to adopt any of Alex's stupid positions.
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It's to initiate and institute public funding for campaigns and make accepting any donations
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illegal.
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Strangely, that's not the topic of this documentary.
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It's Alex's dumb dumb patriot nonsense.
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Anyway.
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America in 2009 was desperate for change.
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It's still 2009!
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The last eight years have been a disaster.
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Those weapons of mass destruction gotta be somewhere.
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Fair, fair enough.
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Fuck you!
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Fuck you, George Bush!
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Yeah, I mean, point well taken.
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George W. Bush, who had claimed to be a conservative, had tripled the size of the federal government.
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Shredded the Constitution.
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I was trying to figure out what Alex meant by tripled the size of the federal government.
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I went down a bunch of paths, couldn't figure out what he was saying.
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Oh, that's another thing.
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I forgot to mention this up top.
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During Endgame, I found Alex's bibliography for Endgame, which was mostly in Carta pages.
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Yeah, it was on a CD that you could mail order.
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It was in Carta pages and then citation needed a bunch of times.
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Alex didn't even put out a bibliography.
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No bibliography for this one?
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There is nothing I can find in terms of sources.
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So when he makes the claim that Bush tripled the size of the government,
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in order for me to talk about that, I first have to know what he means by that.
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Is it government spending? Is it government debt? Is it government employees?
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What is he talking about?
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It becomes incredibly frustrating to be like,
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right, do I have to guess for you?
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And that's going to happen so many fucking times. Anyway.
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And destroyed the image of the United States worldwide.
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Nope, no weapons over there.
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That's probably fair.
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No, that's absolutely true.
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Endless wars.
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Over a million dead Iraqis.
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And more than 5,000 dead U.S. troops.
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The Patriot Act.
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The full stop.
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The Patriot Act.
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Just a list.
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The end of Posse Comitatus.
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Just five more examples.
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The rise of treason.
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The road! God damn it, that fucking road!
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A deepening recession, sliding towards total economic collapse.
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Which some president would then create some sort of relief.
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Save your thoughts on that, that's going to come up later.
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Of course.
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But here we have the Patriot Act, yeah, bad.
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Not as bad as Alex says.
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He over-exaggerates all sorts of things about like,
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all misdemeanors will be terrorism under the Patriot Act.
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Right, right, right, right.
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That sort of thing.
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Warless wiretapping is bad.
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But Alex also embellishes, exaggerates, and lies about that.
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Posse Comitatus is still the law.
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And troops don't operate outside of federal property.
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And if they do, like is the case that we went over on the show recently.
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He supports it.
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They get in trouble for it.
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No, they get in trouble.
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Well, in 2018 he supports it.
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Yeah, in 2018 he's all for it.
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But back in 2009, when there were cases of that,
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the people in the military who were responsible got in trouble for it.
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Right.
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Because it's the law.
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The North American Union doesn't exist, nor is there any sign that it ever will.
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Yes, we have this recession that was happening,
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but it's irresponsible to talk like this in February 2009,
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when Obama hasn't had a chance to do anything about it.
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Yeah.
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The thing that is particularly jarring now that we live in the future,
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and it's still fucking going on,
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is the equivalence he has putting one million dead Iraqis,
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5,000 dead American soldiers.
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And he does not, like, he just leaves that there,
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puts them right next to each other like they're the same problem.
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And it's like, dude, one of these is not like the other.
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That is a fair criticism.
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Yeah.
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Fuck off.
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God.
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America's bad, right?
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Seems that way.
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Yeah.
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American people in a state of panic were their future and the very existence of the United States.
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So I think he's playing a little bit fast and loose with these poll numbers.
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So if you consult the Gallup Poll's historical approval ratings for Congress,
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you see this can't be where Alex is getting his information from.
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There's their approval rating during July 10th to 13th, 2008.
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The number hit 14%, which is the lowest during this span at all.
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But it rebounded up from there, and after the inauguration on January 2009,
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the numbers were back up in the 30s, which still isn't great,
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and that's not nearly what Alex is saying.
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According to Gallup's numbers, the congressional approval rating would never get down to 9% until November 2013.
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It's not hard to remember why their approval rating was so bad back then.
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You may recall that this crisis was the result of there being a Democratic majority Senate and a Republican House.
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The Affordable Care Act had passed, and this was a real problem for the folks on the right,
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many of whom were fully beholden to Koch brothers' money through Tea Party organizations like Tea Party Patriots and Heritage Action.
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It was an existential issue for them to see the ACA gone since it would make its...
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so insurance companies would actually have to cover people and not treat health like unregulated gambling.
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In September 2013, there was an appropriations bill that needed to be passed to ensure that the government was funded.
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Republicans, very notably Ted Cruz, used this as a bargaining chip to try and force the dismantling of the Affordable Care Act.
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They offered to pass the funding bill, but only if they could defund the Affordable Care Act.
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This strategy was literally coming from the Koch brothers' founded Think Tank Freedom Works,
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which suggested that since the funding bill, quote,
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must be renewed in order for the doors to stay open in Washington,
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the continuing resolution is the best chance we will get to withdraw funds from Obamacare.
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This can be done by attaching bills by Senator Ted Cruz or Congressman Tom Graves to the continuing resolution,
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which will totally defund Obamacare.
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Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Mark Meadows are leading the charge to get their colleagues to commit to this approach
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by putting their signatures to a letter affirming that they will refuse to vote for the concurrent resolution that contains Obamacare funding.
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And guess what happened?
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The exact Republicans named in that release from Freedom Works led the charge not to approve the spending bill unless it dismantled the Affordable Care Act.
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I bet they had no financial incentive to do that.
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No, no.
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Now, come on.
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The Senate didn't agree to those terms, and Obama had already said that he would veto any bill that passed with this strategy,
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so bada-bing, we ended up with a 16-day shutdown of the federal government.
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800,000 employees were furloughed, and 1.3 million had to go to work not knowing when they'd be paid.
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The damage that was caused by this petulant shutdown that had nothing to do with actually achieving the goal of defunding the Affordable Care Act
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is pretty hard to put into words.
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Countless nongovernmental organizations that relied on federal funding were completely cut off,
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including domestic violence shelters and homeless outreach programs.
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As many as 19,000 children lost their access to the Head Start program,
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which provides education, food, and health care to underprivileged children.
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The national parks estimated that they lost approximately $76 million a day in tourism income during the shutdown,
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$2.7 million a day alone from the Grand Canyon,
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which has a reciprocal effect on the small businesses that exist around the national parks that rely on them to bring in business in the form of tourists.
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That's when Congress had a 9% approval rating.
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But, of course, Alex was in favor of the government shutdown and supports Ted Cruz.
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I'm not sure what that means other than Alex Jones is a real shithead.
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So I'm sure the Koch brothers, too, lost money in this, right?
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No, they probably made a whole bunch.
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Oh, they didn't. So, hold on.
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So you're saying that there were no negative effects to the billionaires for this political stunt that never had any chance of success at all.
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But there were real world effects for, like, regular people and just, like, humans and Americans.
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Johnny Lunch Pail, the proud small business owner in America.
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Right, so Alex is against money being in government.
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Hates it.
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But he's super for- good, good.
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Everybody makes sense, Dan. I love it whenever there's a clear track between your ideology and your supporting position.
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You betcha.
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So that's the time that polls showed an actual approval rating of 9% for Congress.
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But it should be pointed out that Rasmussen put out a poll in July 2008 saying that 9% of the 1,000 likely voters they polled thought that Congress was doing a good or excellent job.
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That's all good and well, but that's not a 9% approval rating.
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For contrast, Gallup's poll was just a poll of citizens 18 or older, not necessarily likely voters.
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And they specifically asked the question, quote, do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job?
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The way that they framed the question in the Rasmussen poll is not the way you get an approval rating.
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So it's irresponsible to say they had a 9% approval rating when that wasn't what the poll looked at.
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Also, when was the last time Congress had a positive approval rating?
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I don't know. I don't know that offhand.
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1958?
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No, I don't think so. I think it's been more recently than that.
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Also a minor point, but both parties, Alex is saying that they were universally hated.
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That absolutely wasn't the case.
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The Democrats were winning on generic ballots by 12 points nationally, which makes sense because in the 2008 elections, Democrats gained eight seats in the Senate and 21 in the House,
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hence the need for the mainstream GOP to embrace the emerging Tea Party in a desperate attempt to right the ship.
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For context, the last time one party had 57 senators as the Democrats did after the 2008 election was in 1992, and that was the Democrats, too.
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The last time the Republicans had a majority that large was in the election of 1920 when Warren G.
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Harding was elected president and 11 states fielded Socialist Party candidates for the Senate that won over 1.7% of their state's votes.
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So I'm just giving you that as like, that's the world we lived in the last time Republicans had the majority the Democrats enjoyed in 2008.
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It's crazy.
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How did it go the last time the Republicans had that massive majority?
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Oh, nine years after that, the Great Depression happened.
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Oh, is that? So it's almost like there's a pattern of when the Republicans are in power, they destroy fucking everything.
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But billionaires do all right.
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I suggest you not think about that.
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I'm just I'm just pointing that out. I don't know if anybody has used history before.
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On the scene came a man who promised change, change we could all believe in.
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Already go fuck yourself. He's saying he came onto the scene.
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And this is a myth that's perpetuated by the right wing of this idea that he came out of nowhere.
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It's used to in service of the idea that he was a creation of the Illuminati.
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A lot of people use it when they try and make arguments that he wasn't born in America or maybe even a demon, all these sorts of things.
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The problem is it's complete bullshit. Prior to running for president, Obama ran for and served as the senator in Illinois.
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That alone pretty much gets rid of the he came out of nowhere kind of gambit.
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But it's a legit way worse than that. Before being senator, Obama was a member of the Illinois Senate, winning his first election in 1996.
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Being part of the state Senate, that puts Obama right on the same level as all these weirdo state senators that Alex constantly has on his program to talk about reasserting their 10th Amendment rights and all that shit.
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He was in state Senate since 1997. That's almost as long as Alex has been on the radio. Obama has been in an elected state position.
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He came out of nowhere. Nobody knew who he was. What even is a state Senate, Dan?
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Well, Alex is thrilled with them. He talks about them all the fucking time.
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Are state Senates in Kenya?
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Alex believes in state's rights being supreme. He should be more interested in the state legislature.
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No! No! It's definitely not because he's black! It's not because he's black! It's not because... Okay, it's because he's black.
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What Alex is really saying here and what all these people are really saying is that when they say he appeared out of nowhere, he wasn't on my radar.
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That's all they're really saying. And it's fairly easy to see why.
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In his time in Congress, one term basically, Obama was the primary sponsor for four bills that were enacted.
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In comparison, outright Nazi Steve King of Iowa has been in the House since 2003, and at press time, he's only got one bill passed, and it was to name a post office.
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Obama was an active member of the state Senate in Illinois.
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And that post office was named the N-word.
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That wouldn't have passed.
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He was a member of the state Senate, then in the U.S. Senate, and in 2004, he gave a super important speech at the Democratic National Convention, which boosted his stature even further.
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It was the first time the world was like, holy shit, this guy can fucking talk!
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So the idea that he came out of nowhere, even if he wasn't in the state House, the state Senate and all that, before, in 2004, he gave that groundbreaking speech at the Democratic Convention. Alex, it's all stupid.
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Just like Trump was a sleeper patriot, Obama was a sleeper Kenyan state senator, who also was a community organizer.
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Did a lot of good for a lot of people.
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You know how Kenya does that.
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Blah.
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Barack H. Obama promised to end the war and bring our troops home fast.
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Yeah, he did.
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To uphold the Constitution and to stop the federal government from spying on the American people.
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He did alright with that.
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We'll get into some of the issues of these specifics later as Alex gets into them, but like you've already brought up, it's so important to remember this is less than two months into Obama's term.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But insinuating that he hasn't kept these problems, like he hasn't ended the war yet, implies that what he wants is a dictator.
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He wants an executive that will act unilaterally and without concern for the consequences, which kind of makes sense now considering in present day.
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Which you can do while at the same time upholding the Constitution, right Dan?
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Can't you, in America, you can act unilaterally with no regard for the other branches of government while still maintaining the Constitution, right?
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If you believe that all the amendments don't really exist.
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Oh, that's true.
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And most of the Constitution doesn't exist.
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Right.
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Because we're all sovereign beings and all that shit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Admiralty.
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Yeah, I guess you can. I don't think you can.
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No, I don't think so.
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Candidate Obama told American workers that he was going to get them out of NAFTA and GATT.
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He didn't.
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And he's already breaking those promises.
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Two months in.
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In this film, we will prove that Obama says one thing and does another.
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He's still just moving in.
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The most recent elite interest that Bush served.
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The very interest engineering the financial collapse and formation of a dictatorial world government.
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This film is not about left or right. It is non-partisan.
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Go fuck yourself.
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You don't need to say that if that's the truth.
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Yeah, seriously.
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Real quick, you like hearing that violin comeback?
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Oh, is that Endgame, a blueprint for global enslavement?
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You like hearing that violin comeback?
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Oh, shit!
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Wub-wub-wub-wub-wub-wub.
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If humanity has any hope of effecting real change for the better, it will not come from the Madison Avenue false reality makers who have cast Barack Obama as the savior of the world.
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Mad Men.
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Sorry.
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To alter our course from tyranny to liberty, to defeat the corrupt elite, we must get past the puppets and confront the real power structure.
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No puppet. New puppet. Using the animation again.
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Now we can see a new world coming into view.
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Bill!
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A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order.
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Webster, Griffin, Tarpley is an accompli-
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Notice the Christmas decorations here.
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You're not allowed to- that's why this documentary isn't allowed in Starbucks anymore.
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But it kind of dates it. It dates when he was videotaping Webster, Tarpley.
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So that's kind of interesting to note, that this is before Obama probably even was inaugurated.
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Come on, he was inaugurated in January when you always leave 21 days of Christmas.
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Geopolitical analyst and historian-
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Which still wouldn't cover January 20th.
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Are the unauthorized biographies of George Herbert Walker Bush and Barack Hussein Obama.
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The postmodern coup.
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Bush, the elder, made his speech at the United Nations back in September of 1990 talking about the new world order.
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I think I've become confused about what's actually going on in the world.
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The new world order is a more palatable name for the Anglo-American world empire.
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So, real quick, he's basically just laid his cards on the table and said-
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Yeah, Anglo-American, yeah.
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Well, it's just an Anglo-American establishment.
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This is clearly just, okay, all of your information comes from people who have twisted the work of Carol Quigley.
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Who put out the book, The Anglo-American Establishment, that has been misrepresented by the likes of W. Cleon Stousen in The Naked Capitalist,
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and Gary Allen in None Dare Call It Conspiracy.
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When you use terms like that, it's like, ah, that's what you're talking about.
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I'll still evaluate your claims based on their merit, but I know that that's where you come from now.
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Now, I want to tell you about Webster Griffin Turpley.
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Let's hear about him.
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This guy-
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I want to tell you one thing about Webster Griffin Turpley, okay?
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Great name.
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Pretty fantastic name.
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It's pretty good.
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Webster Turpley.
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I do not judge people's appearance the same way that Alex does.
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Right, right.
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He looks exactly like- do you remember in the big-
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He looks angry.
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Do you remember the big Lebowski? Do you remember the billionaire or the rich dude?
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The big Lebowski?
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Yeah.
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Lebowski, the big Lebowski.
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Yes, the character.
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The character.
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Yes.
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The billionaire one looks exactly like that.
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He does-
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Do you know why that guy was chosen to play that part?
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Because he looks evil as shit.
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Yeah, there is a nefariousness to him.
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Now, I want to tell you this.
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As I was doing the research, I wanted to drop doing this documentary and call Webster Turpley-
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Can we call him?
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No, I don't know his phone number.
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Is he dead?
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No, he's still alive.
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Okay.
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I wanted to say fuck it, let's just do a documentary about Webster Turpley because he is-
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Let's us do a documentary?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Because now I am completely fascinated with this guy.
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What's going on?
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I think you'll see why by the time I finish this bio on him.
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Okay.
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So Webster Turpley here in the documentary is credited as an author and a historian.
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He's notably not also credited as a guy who has a radio show on the Genesis Communications
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Network.
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Oh, god damn it!
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The show is called World Crisis Radio and it's a bit of a conflict of interest to not
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point that out.
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One of the main sources of this documentary is also someone who's on the payroll of the
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guy who distributes Alex's radio show.
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That's a little bit, you know, immoral.
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Does Ted Anderson show up halfway in and they have a little sit down where the leg-
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Okay, now we're going to break it.
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We're going to get back into the Obama deception, but guys, the only way to get past this North
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American Union shit, buy my gold!
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Ted does not show up, but I don't want to tip my hand on any possible ad evidence.
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Okay, okay.
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So Webster Turpley is a protégé of Lyndon LaRouche, who comes up on our normal show
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every now and again, most interestingly as being Jim Baker's cellmate when the two were
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in prison.
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LaRouche is only tangentially related to the matters at hand, so we're going to have to
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save getting deep into him for another day, but suffice it to say, in 1979 he filed a
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libel lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League for calling him anti-Semitic.
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The suit was thrown out and Justice Michael Donson of the New York Supreme Court ruled
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that it was a fair comment, and the fact- The fact, quote, reasonably give rise to the
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description of him as anti-Semitic.
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That's the Marine Le Pen.
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Yep.
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You are legally a fascist, you dumb idiot.
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Whoops.
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Yeah.
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Lyndon LaRouche accidentally made a New York Supreme Court judge rule on the record that
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his actions could be fairly called anti-Semitic.
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By law, you are an anti-Semite.
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And that's someone who's Webster Turpley's mentor and a sort of ideological predecessor.
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I decided to check into Turpley's credentials, and I suppose it's fair that he describes
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himself as an author and a historian.
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Most of his books are unauthorized biographies, like George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography,
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Obama, The Postmodern Coup, Making of a Manchurian Candidate.
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Two subtitles.
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That is a lot of subtitles.
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Little ambitious.
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Also, funny note, the book was called Obama Dangerous Geometry when it was released in
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Japan.
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I like that.
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That is Jimmy James, monkey, or what, donkey, super karate, no, no, no.
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The name of the book was mistranslated as like, donkey wrestler, something along those
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lines.
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And now the super karate monkey death card will come to my hut.
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He also wrote a book called Barack H. Obama, The Unauthorized Biography.
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That came out four months after the other Barack Obama book.
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About two biographies of Obama in the same year?
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And you're going to argue he came out of nowhere?
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Right.
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Also in 2012 he wrote a book, it was titled Just Too Weird, Bishop Romney and the Mormon
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Takeover of America, Polygamy, Theocracy, and Subversion.
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Subtitles.
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Two subtitles.
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Subtitle number three, She's Just Not That Into You.
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I don't have any interest in reading these books, but reviews that I've read have described
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his work as quote, a melange of fact and distortion written in a highly suppositional style that
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makes numerous leaps of logic and asserts connections where there is no evidence to
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support it, and at other times omits exculpatory or contrary information that reveals a more
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complex picture, which sounds like exactly the sort of guy Alex would love to be an expert.
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So if he were to go in front of the New York State Supreme Court, they would legally say
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you are not a historian.
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Well actually that's crazy because he is kind of a historian.
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It is true that he has a PhD in early modern history, which is to say the Middle Ages.
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However, that degree is from the Catholic University of America.
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That degree from the Catholic University of America in early modern history is like early
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modern history is still Noah to them.
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Well, Catholic University of America is a good school according to the Princeton Review.
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I still am going to raise my eyebrows concerning what a school literally founded by the Vatican
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might be teaching about the Middle Ages.
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Seems like they might have a skewed version of events from that period.
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I have no idea if that's true.
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The pope never fucked anybody and definitely not a lot of people at the same time a bunch
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of times and it was multiple popes.
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All I can go on is that I have an ingrained distrust of organized religion, especially
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as an educational tool, and the fact that the American Association of College Professors
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has censured the Catholic University of America for academic freedom violations.
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All that being said, the school is 62.8% white and 0.0% gay.
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There's no abortions there ever.
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But that's not even true.
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It's not even it's not even 0.0% of course.
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There's no possible way.
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That's not the most interesting thing about Tarpley's credentials.
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After receiving his bachelor's in languages from Princeton, he studied as a Fulbright
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scholar at the University of Turin in Italy.
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The reason this is interesting is that the Fulbright program is funded entirely by the
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Bureau of Education and Cultural Affairs of the United States State Department.
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How did he get a Fulbright scholarship?
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He's a really smart guy.
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He is not!
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Yeah, we'll see.
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It was created, the Fulbright program was created with the goal of sending students
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abroad and bringing foreign students here with the hope of improving intercultural relations
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and bringing said nations together.
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You see, the Fulbright program was named after the guy who came up with it, Senator J. William
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Fulbright.
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The thing about J. William Fulbright is, he is a bit of a globalist.
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Oh yeah?
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Yeah.
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From his book, The Arrogance of Power, quote, insofar as international law is observed it
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provides us with...
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Does he have a subtitle for that too?
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Nope.
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No subtitle.
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Well, see now that's a smart man.
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Yeah.
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Insofar as international law is observed, it provides us with stability and order and with
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a means of predicting the behavior of those with whom we have reciprocal legal obligations.
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He wholeheartedly supported the creation of the UN and after he retired from the Senate,
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he practiced international law.
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So what we have here is Webster Tarpley accepting government money in a globalist program created
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by an arch globalist so he could go study in Italy.
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Yeah, you have to use their own powers against them.
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I guess.
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Yeah.
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And thus, it should make no one all that surprised to find out that in the lead up to the 2016
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election, Webster Tarpley came out strongly in favor of Hillary Clinton.
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He accurately figured out that the collapse of any kind of a principled libertarianism
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in America was leaving an opening that Trump could exploit to bring in fascism.
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He wrote on March 25th, 2016, quote, if we look for the roots of the Trump phenomenon
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and in particular the savage immorality of a candidate whose supporters applaud when
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he calls for expanding the use and severity of torture, mass deportations and mass killings
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of the families of his targets, we should not forget about the tremendous degradation
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included by a figure like Ron Paul.
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Paul wanted to abolish all US emergency food aid, meaning that about 60% of the emergency
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nourishment usually available worldwide in a given year would have disappeared, leading
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once again to genocide.
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He literally argues that libertarianism is the front door, the natural introduction to
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fascism and that Ron Paul is complicit in it.
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In this blog, I don't know where to stand in this blog post, he's clearly also talking
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about Alex Jones, quote, between 2008 and early 2015, the libertarian bloggers and broadcasters
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were in a state of accelerating decline, especially in terms of the moral honesty and ideological
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quality of their output.
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We're watching the astounding ease with which veteran doctrinaire libertarians blithely
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throw their doctrine and principles overboard and rush like lemmings to join the bandwagon
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of the fascist Trump, whose dictatorial and authoritarian tendencies could hardly be more
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blatant.
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Does he, does he call himself out in this?
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I don't know.
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No.
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Does he, does he at any point say, also, I totally helped him out?
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Also, sorry I was in the Obama session.
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Yeah, my bad guys for giving you the push, for giving you a bullshit veneer of intellectualism
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to what is clearly something I regret.
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Yeah, so after he put out that blog, everyone at the Prison Planet Forum started theorizing
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that he was a secret globalist all along.
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Of course, the whole time!
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Good thing Alex made him the centerpiece of this documentary.
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I have no idea what to think about Webster Tarpley, like as a whole.
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He's going to be factually and spiritually wrong about almost everything in this documentary,
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but at the same time, he at least had the good sense to see Trump for what he was and
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had the wherewithal to speak out about it, which is kind of crazy considering the other
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people in this world.
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I think the most likely conclusion here, and this is what I'm going to stick by because
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it's the easiest, simplest explanation that explains all of the things, is that Webster
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Tarpley is a charlatan and a conman, but even a conman generally knows it's better, they
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know better than to support the rise of something overtly fascist.
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Right.
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Because generally, then you have to pay them for your con, or they shut down your con.
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Also just so no one thinks I'm being unfair, I do need to point out that J. William Fulbright
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was a huge piece of shit.
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He supported multiculturalism abroad, however, he protested the Brown versus the Board of
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Education decisions, he filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and ironically voted against
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the Voting Rights Act.
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Oh, he's part of the great Republican exodus then.
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Also it's fun to note this, in August 2016, Webster Tarpley reported that Melania Trump
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was a high-end prostitute before meeting Donald Trump, which quickly led to a libel suit from
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Melania.
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Oh, yeah?
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In February 2017, Webster Tarpley settled that lawsuit, the terms of which were private,
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but included him making a public apology and paying a substantial sum.
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So yeah, he's off the wagon.
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You know what?
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He's off the...
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You know what?
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I'm going to say this, spiritually, I think he's right.
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Don't get yourself into libel territory.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, I'm just saying that if you marry Trump...
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I hear you.
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You're probably...
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You may not have worked as a sex worker, but you are now a sex worker.
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It's funny that we're nine minutes into this documentary and already we have two people,
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one an incidental figure and the other literally the main person in the documentary who have
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since gone entirely against Alex Jones and what he's up to.
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And one of them has tried to get Trump impeached and the other got sued for libel for calling
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Melania a high-end prostitute and wrote blogs before the election calling him aspiring fascist
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authoritarian.
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But Joe Rogan's still cool with him.
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Sure.
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Planetary domination of London, New York, Washington, over the rest of the world.
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It's hard to get people to join that or think they have a part in it if you call it the
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Anglo-American world empire.
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If you call it the New World Order, then people in India or someplace like that or the European
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Union might think there's something in that for us too.
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I just want to stop.
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I don't have anything to say about that, except that's fucking stupid.
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That's not what it is.
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It's the Anglo-American New World Order.
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It's really the old world order.
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It's the British empire morphing into the American empire.
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The U.S. British world empire is what it is.
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Doesn't Alex talk all the time about how he wants the West to take over?
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Somewhat.
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Or at least the West to be what everybody else does.
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The reason that's stupid is what he's talking about is the idea that they call it the New
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World Order instead of the Anglo-American establishment world order or whatever so they
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can convince people in India to go along with it.
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I don't know what that means to the people in charge in India, the powers that be there.
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He's not talking about getting Indian citizens to go along with it.
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He's talking about the would-be oligarchs in India to go along with it.
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I don't think they would care too much if it was called the Anglo-American, whatever
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the name of it is, if they're involved in it in a power position, it doesn't fucking
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matter.
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Because now it's the Anglo-American Indian order if they get in.
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So he's arguing that all globalists then have to be from Anglo-American.
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There can't be any global globalists.
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There can only be white globalists.
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There's fundamental problems like this that come up and I don't know how to square it.
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We need to get Xi Jinping on board with the Anglo-American New World Order.
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Bingo.
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What you're going to get.
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Combines of powerful men have always battled with each other over the levers of power.
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That may be true as an isolated sentence.
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Gerald Salinto is recognized as one of the world's foremost trends forecasters and as
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the founder of the Trends Forecasters Institute.
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People that are knowledgeable know that the fight that this country has been waging since
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its inception is for the central bankers not to take over the country.
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This is so funny because if you're not watching the video of this or haven't seen the video,
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Gerald Salente can't figure out what camera to talk to.
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So he's just...
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It's the one with the red light, dude.
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It's the one with the red light, Gerald.
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Both cameras that they're showing just involve him moving his head back and forth.
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He is not looking at the camera.
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It's awesome.
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So we've run into Salente a number of times on our coverage of Alex Jones' show, but we've
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never really done a dive into his history, like who he is, or that of his business, the
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Trends Research Institute.
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And now, since he's the other main protagonist of this documentary, along with Dexter Tarpley...
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Protagonist is...
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Strong?
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In heavy quotes.
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Yeah.
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It seems like a good time to go ahead and look into him a little bit.
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First thing that's really funny about Gerald Salente being one of Alex's go-to guys...
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He's been dead for 25 years!
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He's a ghost!
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He's a ghost!
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He's a ghost!
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Ghost old Salente!
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So the thing that's funny about him being one of Alex's main dudes comes right from
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his own bio.
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Quote, while Salente holds a U.S. passport, he considers himself a citizen of the world.
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Sounds mighty globalist to me!
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So we know Gerald Salente is a guy who'll appear and lend Alex's show a little dramatic
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flair with his expert delivery and cranky old man energy.
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We also know that he existed on the show almost exclusively to help Ted Anderson sell gold.
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As he would constantly warn the audience that the dollar was about to completely be devalued
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and anyone expecting to survive needed to buy gold.
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Also Rubik's Cubes are coming back.
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It's a new trend.
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Trend forecast.
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Trend forecast.
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He constantly warned every year that the upcoming summer would be the summer of rage.
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He'd do that every year.
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We've seen it over and over again on Alex's show.
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In his trend journal in June 2015, he speculated that it was possible that gold would soon
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be trading at $20,000 an ounce and would definitely be above $2,000 in the very near future.
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At the time of his writing, gold was trading around $1,200 an ounce and would never reach
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higher than $1,300 an ounce, all the way up to present day where it's trading, again,
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right around $1,200 an ounce.
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But Salente hasn't just been wrong consistently about gold prices and the dollar.
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That's the only trend he's right about, being wrong all the time.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I'm going to be addicted.
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I'm going to be fucking way off on a bunch of stuff.
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I'm going to be off all the time.
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Then I'd be like, you were right on, buddy.
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He was also wrong about the dollar's imminent demise for over a decade, but he's also been
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wrong about some more fun things.
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Researching this topic in particular was really difficult because Salente or his employees
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edit his website constantly to remove failed predictions.
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I love that.
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And beyond that, he constantly puts out quote, revised trend forecasts.
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It's in the middle of the year in order to fudge what he said in January if he needs
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to.
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And then beyond that, I'm not going to pay him, I think it's $100 a year to get access
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to his journal.
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I'm not going to pay that for a quarterly fucking journal of wrong things.
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That is like a weatherman giving yesterday's news.
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Oh, the revised trend forecast?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, you bet.
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Or like Courtney Brown at the Remote Viewing Institute.
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Whenever they make predictions and then the next month they're like, oh, that's what that
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prediction meant.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's kind of cheating.
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But even though it was really difficult, I was able to find a couple of really fun predictions
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that Gerald Salente has made over the years that were fucking so far off.
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In 1999, he told the San Francisco Chronicle, quote, unless you're going to have some kind
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of mystical ancient Chinese power from drinking it, bubble tea is not going anywhere.
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Mildly racist, a little bit.
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But in 2016, the bubble tea market was valued at $1.9 billion with projections that it'll
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grow to approximately $3.2 billion by 2023.
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The U.S. bubble tea market represents over half of that.
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So he was pretty far off on bubble tea.
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As the year 2000 -
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How about Greek yogurt?
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How did he fare there?
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He hates it.
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He hates it.
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Unless you're going to get some Zeus powers from this, yogurt's out.
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Just pick any regional food and then throw a borderline offensive comment in there.
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As the year 2000 rang in, he told Psychology Today, quote, voluntary simplicity, once merely
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a counterculture ideal, will finally become a reality in the 21st century.
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Moderation, self-discipline and spiritual growth will be the personal goals of the future,
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not material accumulation.
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That is the worst trend forecast I have ever heard in my entire fucking life.
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That was in 2000, and I'd just like to remind everyone how huge reality TV got in the immediate
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ensuing few years.
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Materialism became like - that song, Grills, came out after that.
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Anyway.
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Somebody's ride got pimped.
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Yeah.
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Oh, and some people's trucks got tricked.
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Hell yeah, they did.
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So that was another one that's not so great.
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Also from that Psychology Today article, quote, somewhere around the year 2000, the revelation
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and revolution will come.
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The lawn!
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Exclamation point.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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What?
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What?
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Hold on.
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What?
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The lawn?
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Yeah.
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Your lawn.
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The lawn.
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Your front lawn?
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Your front lawn.
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What about it?
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Lawns are everywhere.
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Millions of -
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I wrote this out, and I didn't even - I wasn't even ready to say that.
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That's hilarious.
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Lawns are everywhere.
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Lawns are everywhere.
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Millions of costly, intensively cared for suburban lawns have been doing nothing but
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growing grass.
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But a lawn that's turned into a vegetable patch can produce fresh fruit.
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The trend to convert lawns into gardens will have a significant impact not only on the
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way we eat, but also the way we live and feel.
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My comment on that?
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Ah, yes.
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We all know how many of us have lawns.
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You drive around the city or the suburbs, you see -
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You can't see anything but lawns.
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Nothing but mini farms.
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There's so many mini farms.
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Everyone's front yard.
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And everybody's trying to shut down your community garden, though.
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Oh, dude, when you're in a suburb, you know, you're driving around and everybody's
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like, oh, my God, look at that great tomato patch.
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Doesn't -
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Oh, man.
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Bad prediction.
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I call this section of your notes the Cilenti deception.
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The Cilenti misconception.
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So he goes on in this article to demonstrate just how out of touch he is with, let's
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call it, trends.
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Quote, just as rock and roll replaced swing and ragtime music -
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This is a dude looking out his window or watching TV being like, oh, I've seen a lawn before.
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Let me make a trend prediction on that.
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I want to hear him say these things because they sound so cranky and I know his voice
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is so awesome that I just want to hear him talk about like, ah, fucking rock and roll
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replacing swing and -
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Lawns are everywhere.
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I miss the good old days of ragtime.
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So -
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Joplin, Scott Joplin, he had it.
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Doesn't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.
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So quote, just as rock and roll replaced swing and ragtime music, a new genre of millennial
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music will emerge.
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It will be upbeat without the anger and despair of today's cutting edge rock and rap.
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Oh, boy, man.
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Gerald.
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Gerald.
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Gerald.
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Gerald.
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Gerald.
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How old was he when he was making these predictions?
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18 years ago.
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I think he's 70-something now.
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So I mean he would have been in his 50s.
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So he's a mid-50s white dude being like, eh, I know what music is going to turn into.
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Yeah.
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I got my finger on the pulse.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So pretty much all of Cilenti's trend predictions are little more than vague pronouncements,
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which are often wrong and ultimately based on little more than his guesses.
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Deer are in forests for now.
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In the book Invest in Yourself, the authors asked Cilenti how he makes his predictions,
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to which he replied that basically what he does is every day he reads two newspapers
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and then finds connections between stories that may or may not actually exist.
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That's how he makes his predictions.
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He said that in a book.
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So he throws darts at a newspaper.
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Just reads the newspaper and is like, ah.
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He holds a newspaper up on his wall, throws a dart, reads the article, reads the other
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article in the newspaper, and he's like, music's going to be different.
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Yeah.
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So he's a terrible predictor of stuff.
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He's made a couple of correct predictions that if you really look at what he said, you're
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like, that's right, but boy, that's vague.
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That sort of thing.
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He's gotten a lot of traffic and sort of credibility out of one prediction he made in like 1987.
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It's not great.
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In the month of May, a child will be born named Jordan Benaiah Horn.
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He might have been that guy.
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He's the one who prophesied my birth.
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He's not good with trends and predictions, but what he is good at doing is being dramatic
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and adding like that sort of flair and sheep dogging people into buying gold because he
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creates panics all the time.
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He tries to create and instill fear, which is why he's perfect as someone to have around
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for someone who works for a guy who sells gold.
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He's perfect.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Gerald.
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And that's why people like Andrew Jackson were elected and that's why people revere
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people like Thomas Jefferson and others.
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In case anybody is wondering right now, purchase a DVD copy of the Obama Deception at Infowars.com
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is running along the bottom of the screen attempted to assassinate President Andrew
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Jackson on multiple occasions.
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Yeah, because he needed to be assassinated against a private central bank being set up
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in the United States.
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No, because he was a fucking lunatic.
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Well, there's a lot to go into here.
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Talking about Andrew Jackson.
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Oh, that's right.
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You were, you told me before we did this that you were going to teach me some things about
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Andrew Jackson.
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At least one thing.
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I'm excited.
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So it's a commonly held myth among the anti-tax, anti-government crowd.
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They all believe that Andrew Jackson is a hero who is working hard to wrestle control
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over America away from the evil central bank.
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Also a hero to the giant cheese wheel crowd.
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That's true.
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He was a huge, huge hero there.
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I think it's really important though to take a look back and actually look at the influence
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that Andrew Jackson had vis-à-vis central banking because it's not the story that Alex
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Jones and his community tell at all.
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The biggest thing that Jackson did is he ended the charter for the second bank of the United
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States after he was elected in 1832.
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He did establish the charter for the fifth third bank though.
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That's true.
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I was about to quote Matt Riggs' bit about how we need to start a movement to reduce
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that fraction.
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So in 1932, that's what he did.
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He ended the charter for the second bank of the United States.
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That's technically ending a central bank but it's not like he conquered the bank.
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The second bank was established after the War of 1812 left the United States in a precarious
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financial situation.
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Inflation was through the roof as the myriad private banks printed up tons of money that
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made all of the money increasingly worthless.
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You just had all of these banks producing their own currency that was different than
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each other and you ended up in a situation where they needed to create this centralized
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bank in order to fight back this inflationary effect.
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It's almost like everything that Alex has ever advocated for has a historical precedent
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that went terribly wrong.
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Sure.
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So in 1812, President Madison founded the second bank of the United States specifically
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with a charter for it to last 20 years.
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When Jackson was elected, it was the end of the bank's charter and all he did was not
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renew the charter despite overwhelming public support and support of the Congress for the
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bank.
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After he did this, Jackson pushed for the removal of government funds from the second
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bank which he succeeded in carrying out.
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These funds were specifically placed in his favored, quote, pet banks, state banks that
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were known to be loyal to the Jackson administration.
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In 1836, the federal bank ceased to exist and became the State Bank of Pennsylvania.
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Historian James Schoeller noted, quote, by 1834, there were some 500 or more local banks
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in the United States whose aggregate circulation was several times greater than that of the
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monster bank which Jackson's PAC was running down and it's clear observers noted the coexistence
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of half a thousand distinct currencies in this country was a great deficit or defect
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of its financial system.
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The Jackson administration was deeply opposed to regulation so did little in any way to
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manage the economy which was what those in favor of the second bank were advocating him
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to do.
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In his deregulatory laissez-faire attitude towards everything, all of these competing
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currencies came up and created a mass chaos and, you know, these people who said that
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he should be working on controlling the economy weren't doing that just for their health.
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Historian H.W.
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Brands explains the situation that rose in terms of monetary issues.
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Quote, it got worse primarily as a result of Jackson's war against the Bank of the United
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States.
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Freed from the restraints of Bittles Bank, that's the guy who ran the second bank of
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the United States, freed from the restraints Bittles Bank had imposed, the state banks
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issued notes by the basketful.
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These fueled the rampant speculation in every kind of commodity.
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Jackson couldn't do much about the speculation overall except worry that it jeopardized the
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stability of the economy and threatened the welfare of millions of ordinary people.
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On July 11, 1836, Andrew Jackson put out a decree to halt rampant land speculation declaring
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that land could only be bought by using gold or silver.
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Historian Major L. Wilson said, quote, all that did was to make cash-poor farmers more
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dependent on capital-rich speculators.
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It magnified the fraud the president meant to expunge and obliged his loyalists to fight
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little bank wars in every state of the union.
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Banks ran low on gold and silver reserves as millions of dollars worth were taken out
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to be used in land speculation or just privately hoarded, leaving banks vulnerable to calls
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on deposits.
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All this led directly to the Panic of 1837, where the country was plunged into a deep
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recession that lasted until the mid-1840s, during which time unemployment reached over
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20 percent in many areas.
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Andrew Jackson was a really stupid president, and his actions destroyed the economy for
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years.
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Also a really dumb point, Alex yells all the time about the Democrats being the party of
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the KKK and how Lincoln was a Republican and all this stuff, so they're the ones who are
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really the cool ones with a racial tip, but by that same logic and ignoring how parties
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have completely changed, you could make the argument the Democrats are the party that
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broke up banks since Andrew Jackson was a Democrat.
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Anyway, he almost destroyed the entire economy through his stupid and short-sighted and petty
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actions against the Second Bank of the United States.
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Yeah, he is one of the, if not the worst, I mean Andrew Johnson was...
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He's Andrews.
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It's two Andrews in the running for worst president in history, I will tell you that
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right now.
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But, the cool thing about Andrew Jackson, giant cheese wheel, man, giant cheese wheel,
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left it out in the swamp for weeks, giant cheese wheel on the White House.
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Hell yeah.
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So, in terms of the idea that he worked against the banks, or the centralized bank, I mean,
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that's true inasmuch as he was opposed to renewing the charter of the bank that would
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expire when he came into office.
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But the consequences of his actions are clearly borne out through history.
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And in many ways, you could say that nobody proves the need for those banks more than
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the guy who tried to destroy them.
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Oh, sure.
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And the history before the 1913 creation of the Federal Reserve and the history after.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, look, Alex is also saying that there were multiple bank agents that tried
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to assassinate Andrew Jackson because of this.
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Yeah.
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That isn't true.
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No.
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A bunch of people tried to kill him, though, for very good reasons.
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One guy did.
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Yeah, but he beat the shit out of them.
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There's one guy who attempted to assassinate Andrew Jackson in a legitimate way.
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It's my favorite story.
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The other instance...
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I love that story.
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I'm about to tell it.
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It's so good.
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Tell that story.
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It's so fucking good.
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The other instance was a minor fight that Jackson got into, and he declined to press
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charges over after the fact.
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That said, the legitimate assassination attempt was 100% not done by agents of the central
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bank.
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It was done by a very interesting crazy dude named Richard Lawrence.
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Who would go on to kill John Lennon.
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Lawrence was born in England, which I guess must be proof that he's an agent of the crown.
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He moved to Virginia at age 12, and as he grew up, he found work as a house painter.
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A lot of people who have researched Lawrence theorized that the lead and other chemicals
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in the paints of the day probably contributed to his mental decline as he reached the age
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of 30 and on.
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In 1932-33, he started to tell his family that he was going back to England, only to
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return a month later, generally with a fanciful story about how he couldn't go.
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The first time, he complained it was too cold to sail to England, so he just came back.
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The second time, the story was much more troubling.
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He'd been in Philadelphia for a bit, and when he returned, he claimed that the U.S. government
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didn't approve of him going to England, and that he had read several articles in the Philadelphia
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newspaper that were, quote, critical of his travel plans and character.
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Richard quit his job, and when his family asked how he was going to afford to live,
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he told them that he was Richard III, the King of England, who had died 380 years earlier.
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Oh boy.
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Not great.
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It turns out that when you're the long dead King of England, money ain't an issue.
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That is true.
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You just got buckets full of cash.
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I don't understand how that would not make money an issue still.
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No, man.
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You got estates.
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You got estates that you own.
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Right, but you're long dead.
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No, but you still own it.
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Oh, okay.
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I didn't know that.
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You can just send a letter?
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Here's where things get interesting.
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Because Richard Lawrence believed he was Richard III, he also believed that he owned multiple
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estates in England.
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Right.
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For reasons that aren't entirely clear, he also came to believe that Andrew Jackson's
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vetoing of the Second Bank of the United States made it impossible for him to collect monies
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he was owed on the estates.
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He reasoned that if he killed Jackson, Martin Van Buren would become president, he'd set
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up a central bank, and just like that, he gets all of his English estate money.
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Boom.
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So that's the reasoning that he used, and that's what Alex is going off of.
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I am fine with that.
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Pretending that he's an agent of the central banks.
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At this point, Richard started dressing up like British royalty.
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At times, he would fall into severe laughing or cursing fits, and the trend of him verbally
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and physically assaulting his sisters began to appear, which is always there.
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Always there.
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The assassination attempt itself is a story that people are much more familiar with.
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Richard approached Jackson at the U.S. Capitol, he pulled out his pistol, it didn't fire.
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Pulled out his backup pistol, it also didn't fire.
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As he didn't have a third pistol, this gave way to Andrew Jackson beating Richard III
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with his cane.
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Richard was then tackled by the crowd, which included Davy Crockett.
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That's right, it did include Davy Crockett, holy shit, I always forget about that.
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Man of the wild frontier.
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I always forget that Davy Crockett was somehow there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He would go on to face trial.
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Davy Crockett was like the Forrest Gump of that era.
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Yeah, he was everywhere.
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He's just fucking everywhere.
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Yeah.
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He would go on to face trial, where the prosecuting attorney was none other than Francis Scott
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Key, who mere years earlier had written The Star-Spangled Banner.
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Richard was found innocent by virtue of insanity, and locked up in an asylum until his death
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26 years later.
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In the aftermath of the assassination attempt, with people trying desperately to find a reason
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for it, rumors spread that he was working for the proponents of the Second Bank of the
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United States, a theory that literally had no proof, no backing and evidence at all.
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In a move that would be mirrored by at least one president I can think of, Andrew Jackson
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encouraged these conspiracy theories, as it helped make him look heroic, and demonized
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his enemies.
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Yeah.
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So, it was a crazy dude, not an agent of the bank.
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And you're actually talking about Andrew Jackson?
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Yeah.
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He's a crazy dude.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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That fucking guy.
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I'm sorry to tell you a story that you already know.
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I feel like...
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No, that's my favorite story.
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It's a great story.
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I could hear that story a million times.
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I felt like, you know what it is?
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On this show, your reactions are so sincere and in the moment, that you weren't surprised
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by any of that information.
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No.
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And it disappointed me.
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I mean, it's a bummer.
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Because you weren't responding to new information or novelty, so you weren't as delighted.
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Do you know what frustrates me?
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I think it was at least a couple of years ago, a friend of the show, Matt Drufke, sent
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me this video of somebody who had done, essentially, my Andrew Jackson bit on his album.
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Oh no.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's terrible.
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We hadn't met.
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I think it was...
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I don't think he stole it from me or anything like that.
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But he does...
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The final line he does is line for line what I say, which is that, for once, the Secret
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Service didn't keep the president from being assassinated.
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They kept the president from assassinating a man.
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And I was so mad, because that was a good line, and that dude stole.
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And he put it on an album.
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He didn't steal it.
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But he's got it.
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He beat you to it.
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Yeah, he put it on an album.
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I can't even say that line anymore.
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It's frustrating.
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Need a new X.
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It's bullshit.
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So is the rest of this documentary.
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I am going to get a puppet.
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Ooh, I like that.
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That's my plan.
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Ooh, Gerald Cilenti puppet.
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Oh yeah!
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And it was something that Abraham Lincoln wore.
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Music is going to be played by Mikes.
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That's why I believe he was assassinated.
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Okay.
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This is the Lincoln quote.
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The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace.
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Abraham Lincoln.
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It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy.
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I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble
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for the safety of my country.
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Corporations have been enthroned.
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An era of corruption will follow and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
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its reign.
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Picture a Tim Geithner who can also go fuck himself.
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And Greenspan.
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And Greenspan who can also go fuck himself.
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In a few hands and the republic is destroyed.
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Wall Street has killed Main Street.
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So that's...
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Definitely didn't have anything to do with slavery, Cilenti!
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Well, that's Cilenti's argument for why Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.
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Yeah, definitely didn't have anything to do with...
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That quote...
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Yeah.
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Led to his assassination.
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Yeah.
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That's a fake quote!
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No shit!
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Yep.
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God dammit.
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It's a totally fake quote.
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Fuck you, Cilenti.
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Abraham Lincoln's collected works and writings, you can't find that quote because it's fake.
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It didn't appear until 20 years after Lincoln's death during the 1896 presidential election.
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So why did someone release a bogus letter about nefarious forces trying to meddle in
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the economy during the 1896 election?
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It's hard to say for sure, but one pretty strong guess is that the gold standard was
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one of the top issues in that election and William Jennings Bryan was running as a Democratic
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nominee and had just delivered his cross of gold speech at the Democratic National Convention.
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It makes sense that this would be an issue that would come back up in terms of...
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And everybody likes to try and take historical heroes and pretend they said things that were
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predicted or supported their cause.
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Or historical villains.
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Hitler said that.
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In the past, we've seen Alex Jones and his crew use completely fabricated quotes on a
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regular basis.
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Almost everything in Endgame was fake quotes.
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Like it was nonsense.
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That's definitely...
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Not according to Encarta.
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That's definitely in their repertoire, but in this case, they might have a slightly better
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argument than in past cases.
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They just don't know.
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Well, yeah, because in 1950, Archer H. Shaw released the Lincoln Encyclopedia, which purported
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to be a one-stop shop for all things Lincoln.
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The problem is that he didn't do his due diligence in terms of authenticating things he put in
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the encyclopedia.
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He includes the letter that this quote comes from in that encyclopedia, a letter supposedly
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to Colonel William F. Elkins, but historians and researchers have clearly determined that
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that letter was a forgery.
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It was far from the only example of the lack of completionism in his book, and thus, it's
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not seen as a well-put-together resource for information.
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But I could see Gerald Cilenti or Alex seeing that book called the Lincoln Encyclopedia
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and assuming everything in it was unquestionably true and not taking any further steps of research.
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So I think that that's what they did here, and I would say that you get half credit for
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that.
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You're still wrong, but...
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Yeah.
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A lot of people still think the Bible's true.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Whatever.
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I get where you're coming from.
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You're not an active participant in making this up, but you've been fooled by a fake
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quote.
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Yeah.
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So congratulations.
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Congratulations.
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You're not evil.
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You've just been taken in.
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And I'm not a transforecaster.
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No.
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But I predict that's not going to be the first time I use a fake quote in this documentary.
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I think it's going to happen a bit.
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So I know how unpopular it is to be seen as helping banks right now.
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We just had a shot of Joe Lieberman chewing, especially when everyone is suffering in part
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from their bad decisions.
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I promise you, I get it.
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Up until about...
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I think he did.
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That's one thing I don't think he did get.
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The United States is a very powerful engine for world progress.
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It's the assassinations, the Kennedy assassination, and the others in the 1960s, the beginning
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of the Vietnam War.
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Yeah.
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We were going to mention the Kennedy one, not the others.
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The other ones.
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You know, the whatever assassinations happened.
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Except the Wall Street money masters.
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That has now made the United States into no longer a force for progress, but something
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very different.
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Often a force for destruction in the world.
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The military industrial complex has taken over the country along with the Wall Street
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gang.
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If you look also at the people that Obama has put on his appointments list, it's all
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Wall Street.
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It's government of Wall Street, by Wall Street, and for Wall Street.
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Not wrong.
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There's nobody from...
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Not wrong.
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Is wrong.
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Well, I mean, he's not...
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Look, okay.
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Nobody from Silicon Valley.
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Nobody from Big Oil.
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Okay, well, yeah.
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Nobody from defense.
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No labor.
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No women.
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You're an idiot.
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There's nothing.
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It's pure Wall Street.
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The only people who have a voice in Obama's councils are Wall Street finance oligarchs.
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That's all there is.
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Nobody else counts for anything under Obama.
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It's the most extreme Wall Street administration we've ever had.
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Oh, that's not true.
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Sorry, I spoke too soon.
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Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
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I spoke too soon.
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He added a whole lot of other bullshit in there.
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It's important to recognize, like, I'm only...
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When I did a lot of this research, I specifically used the information that would be available
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to them at this point, with the exception of the, isn't it funny that he got sued by
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Melania Trump in the future?
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That is pretty funny.
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You know, stuff like that.
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That is pretty funny.
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But when they're making substantive claims, I tried to limit myself to what would have
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been available before March 2009.
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In order to give them a fair shake, which they do not deserve.
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Well, I think it just gives us better context.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Webster Tarpley here is saying that, you know, all of these things about there's no
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labor, no automotive, or any of that stuff, it's all Wall Street, right?
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So I decided to take each of these claims one by one and look into them and see if there
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was any truth to it.
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So his first claim there in that laundry list was, there's nobody from heavy industry.
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Heavy industry is a pretty rangy term, though it usually means steel mills, that sort of
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thing.
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Businesses that are in heavy industries are also often involved in defense contracts and
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aerospace work.
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But in February 2009, Obama appointed Ron Bloom as the senior advisor to the Secretary
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of the Treasury.
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Previously, Ron Bloom had been in both the arenas of labor relations and steel business,
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because he was the special assistant to the President of United Steel Workers.
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So that one doesn't seem to be true.
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He seems to have a representative of heavy industry in there, at least one.
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So I know that that claim is substantively not true.
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He said, too, that there's nobody from the auto sector.
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That one might be accurate, but it does seem like Obama didn't, you know, it doesn't seem
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like, I can't find any auto executives in his cabinet or important advisors early on.
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Which, considering where they were at the time, is probably a good idea.
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Yeah, I mean, he was...
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Probably a smart move.
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When he was coming into office, General Motors and Chrysler were both facing bankruptcy and
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needed to be bailed out by the government.
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So maybe it wasn't the time to have auto executives being given advisory positions.
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You know what I need?
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Bad ideas.
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I mean, I get that, I don't know, that one, I'm gonna give him, like with, you know, this
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fake quote.
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Yeah, you got a colonel.
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You got a colonel.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So three, there's nobody from Big Oil.
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This one makes no sense, just on a basic level.
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Also, we don't want anybody from Big Oil.
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Alex's whole thing is that oil companies are secretly owned by the Rockefellers and the
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Queens of England and Denmark.
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So I have no idea why someone in an Alex Jones documentary would be complaining that Big
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Oil doesn't have a seat at Obama's table.
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It honestly feels like it would be something Alex would brag about if it wasn't Obama,
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you know.
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But anyway, I'm not sure what the line is for what counts as Big Oil, but Defense Secretary
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Robert Gates formerly worked for Parker Drilling, which is a company involved in offshore oil
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rigs.
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So that one doesn't really seem true.
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Also National Security Advisor James L. Jones is on the board of directors for Chevron before
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he was in the administration.
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So boom, there's nobody from Defense.
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That's his other claim.
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His next one, that's Ludacris, the aforementioned Robert Gates, was the Secretary of Defense
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under George W. Bush, whether you agree with him or not about how he does his job.
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Which I don't.
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It's flat out dishonest to say that there's nobody with experience in Defense.
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They claim about Gates a lot in this documentary, but here's Tarpley pretending Obama doesn't
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have anyone from Defense in his cabinet.
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By the way, he specifically allowed Gates to stay on in order to give that appearance
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of continuity within that situation.
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Because the things that Gates was involved in didn't come to fruition.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, so then he says that there's nobody from Labor.
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The aforementioned Ron Bloom had a previous career in labor unions at United Steel Workers.
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Obama's Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis had a career in the House of Representatives that
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was full of sponsoring and supporting labor-friendly legislation.
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She was the only member of Congress on the board of the American Rights to Work, a pro-union
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organization that she'd been involved in for years.
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From her time in the House, she received a consistent 100% rating from pro-labor groups.
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So that one's bullshit too.
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He said there's no women.
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That's flagrantly false.
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To wit, there was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, EPA Director Lisa Jackson, Secretary
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of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, UN Ambassador Susan Rice, Secretary of Health
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and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, and that's not even
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a complete list.
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This is just another example of Webster Tarpley talking shit.
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This is nothing.
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There's no retirees.
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I'm going to punt on this one.
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There shouldn't be.
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I don't care.
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They're retired.
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I don't think it's necessarily one of the trademark signs of a healthy administration
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that there's a guy who came out of retirement.
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I don't know.
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Also, I don't want anyone who...
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I don't want those people there.
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Yeah.
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I don't...
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I don't want anybody who's not invested in the future there.
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Yeah.
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So he also said there's no small business.
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I don't know exactly what your definition of small business is.
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This again is something that I'm not sure I could really nail down, so I'm kind of going
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to leave.
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He means like somebody who... like an entrepreneur who built their own business.
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But there's tons of lawyers in his cabinet, and a lot of them preconceivably had to go
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through the process of setting up their own private practice, and that's kind of the same
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thing as running a small business.
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Maybe not always exactly the same.
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No, if you've seen billboards, it's pretty similar.
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So I'm going to go ahead and go with that.
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Also Trump's small business administrator is Linda McMahon, owner of the WWE who just
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got paid millions of dollars to put on a show for the crown prince of Saudi Arabia after
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he was implicated in the murder and dismemberment of a Washington Post journalist critical of
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the Saudi government.
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Implicated.
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Implicated is a nice word there.
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I'm not sure anyone's small business record is spotless, is what I'm saying here.
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Then says there's no Silicon Valley.
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Obama's deputy chief technology officer, Andrew McLaughlin, was a former executive at Google.
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Obama's director of the Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation, Sonal Shah was formerly
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the head of Global Development Initiatives, the philanthropy section of Google.
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There's almost certainly other examples, but that should be proof enough that this claim
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is also not true.
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So his claim that Obama's administration is pure Wall Street and that no one else has
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a voice, it's not even close to true.
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He's really just talking about Geithner.
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And also the people who actually have involvement in Wall Street, there weren't that many.
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There are only like three or four people that you can make an argument out of the 22 cabinet
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positions that are the official cabinet that have any real history in Wall Street.
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Strange how many of them would go on to have history in Wall Street.
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Well, sure, sure.
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I'm not disputing you.
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I'm just being a dick.
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Right, right.
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But I mean, you look at other administrations.
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You look at like Trump's administration.
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You had Steve Mnuchin, Gary Cohn, and James Donovan, who were all Goldman Sachs executives
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who had positions that were specifically in areas that had to do with the financial sector.
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You look at George W. Bush, he had people from Wall Street in his.
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This is not really...
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I mean, sure, we could all be idealistic and say like, oh, it'd be great if there wasn't
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anybody in there.
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But to say that it's some sort of the most aggressively Wall Street cabinet ever is ludicrous.
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But anyway, Webster Tarpley doesn't know shit.
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No, Webster Tarpley.
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He's just making stuff up.
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Anyway, go ahead.
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He knows when fascism is coming apparently.
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Sure.
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Apparently.
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That's nice.
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He had a part in the onslaught of fascism.
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And now I will play Eminem's song Guilty Conscience.
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Hell yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that might be a more part of it.
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So anyway, that's nonsense.
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So we are 12 minutes and 54 seconds in.
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Let's roll.
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Before his death, President Woodrow Wilson apologized to the public, regretting that
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he had been deceived by a group of international bankers and the country's financial system
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had fallen into their iron grip.
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He had so much more to apologize for.
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Woodrow Wilson was one of the biggest piece of shit presidents there's ever been.
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That's also not true.
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He didn't apologize.
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Yeah, I can't imagine him apologizing for fucking anything.
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The quote that Alex and all of his anti-federal reserve propagandists point to to justify
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that sort of a claim and that narrative is as follows, quote, our great industrial nation
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is controlled by its system of credit.
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Our system of credit is privately concentrated.
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The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men
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who if their actions be honest and intended for the public interest are necessarily concentrated
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upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily
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by reason of their own limitations chill and check and destroy the genuine economic freedom.
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We've come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated
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governments in the civilized world.
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No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the
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vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of
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dominant men.
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That's the quote that Alex is using to justify this argument that Woodrow Wilson apologized
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just before his death about what he had done to create the Federal Reserve.
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The problem with this is that this is a mishmash of two paragraphs of Woodrow Wilson's writing
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combined to give the impression that this was what he was saying.
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The first paragraph comes from a speech that he gave at the Democratic Club in Harrisburg,
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D.A. on June 15th, 1911 and the other was from a book he wrote called The New Freedom
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which was published in 1913.
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Both of these passages were written before the Federal Reserve was created in December
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1913 and have nothing to do with the effects of the Fed.
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The way Alex Jones is presenting this information is demonstrably fraudulent.
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Anyway, the deceitful interpretation of Wilson's words began making the rounds in the 1950s
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as the Cold War got moving and anti-communist propagandists, like Alex Jones's spiritual
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godfathers and what have you, became ascendant.
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So the Phyllis Schlaflys of the world, John Birch Society were coming into form and this
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narrative was crafted as part of their story that Woodrow Wilson regretted creating the
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Federal Reserve when it couldn't have been since he said the things before the Federal
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Reserve existed.
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Also, Woodrow Wilson forced everybody who was black who worked in the White House to
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hide whenever he walked by.
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Yeah, he was not a good dude.
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Woodrow Wilson was a giant piece of shit.
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A giant piece of shit.
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He wasn't as bad a president as Andrew Johnson or Andrew Jackson but as far as a personal
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human being, he was a giant piece of shit.
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He's no Andrew.
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He's no Andrew.
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He's a Woodrow.
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You gotta give him that.
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Yeah, so I would say that just in terms of this is bullshit.
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That's all I'm interested in.
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I know he sucks.
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He might be the most racist president since the Civil War.
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You mean Lincoln?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think that those are all important points.
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I think they're very worth pointing the finger at that dickhole for.
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But in terms of Alex's claims, all that's important is that Alex is just regurgitating
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two passages Frankenstein monstered together by 1950s anti-communist propagandists.
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It doesn't reflect reality, has nothing to do with the Federal Reserve.
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Good work, dude.
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Thanks.
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Oh, you weren't saying that to me?
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No, I was saying that to Alex.
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No, good work to you.
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I'm sorry.
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Now I feel like an asshole.
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I do think you did good work.
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Who are you, Woodrow Wilson?
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Oh, god damn it.
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I'm gonna hide.
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Yeah, okay.
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I expect all white people to hide from me whenever I walk by.
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The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
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Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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Oh, I want to hear you lie about him.
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That the military industrial complex was taking over the country.
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Only three years after leaving office, President Eisenhower's prophetic warning concerning
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the threat posed to our system of government by the military industrial complex came to
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pass.
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What happened?
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President John F. Kennedy had enraged the entire elite network.
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Uh-oh.
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What happened?
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Now, Kennedy was brought in as somebody who was expected to be a puppet.
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It was thought that-
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You puppet.
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Me puppet.
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Me not puppet.
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Joseph P. Kennedy-
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He was actually one of the meat puppets.
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The speculator would guarantee that Kennedy would be obedient to the establishment.
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They thought that Kennedy was a sex maniac who could be manipulated through all of this.
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Sex maniac.
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He was a sex maniac.
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You just like to fuck.
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Kennedy had discovered-
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Who doesn't?
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He had a bad back, though.
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Which went beyond just being-
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A maniac.
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I think about things like economic recovery, world peace, having a space program, making
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deals with-
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Space program started before him.
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What about the secret space program?
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It doesn't exist.
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What about the secret space program?
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It doesn't exist.
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It doesn't exist.
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How would you know?
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Executive order number 11110, signed by President Kennedy, began the process of abolishing the
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private Federal Reserve.
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What's that mean in binary?
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Kennedy was also pushing for real civil rights reform and had begun the process of pulling
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the troops out of Vietnam.
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So real quick, Alex is trying to imply that the reason that Kennedy was assassinated was
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because he signed this executive order 11110 that would begin the process of eliminating
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the Federal Reserve.
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Now, that executive order wouldn't have abolished the Federal Reserve, and in fact, it's a fantastic
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example of how stupid Alex Jones is, even about the topic he's made, his bread and butter.
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Frankly, this is just another example of Alex parroting conspiracy theories that others
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have promulgated and pretending he knows what he's talking about.
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In this case, he's just repeating things that were written in Jim Maher's conspiracy
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theory book, Crossfire.
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To explain executive order 11110, I first need to explain to you Public Law 88-36, which
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is what the executive order exists to be a complement to.
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In 1961, President Kennedy realized that the demand for silver to be used as an industrial
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metal was increasing at a rate that made its value far greater than the price it enjoyed
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as a currency.
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Emerging markets like microchips, nuclear reactors, medical applications, and semiconductors
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were all boosting silver, which led to an approximately 80% drop in the United States'
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excess silver reserves.
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Noticing that this could be a problem, Kennedy called on Congress to act.
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Quote, I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as
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a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand.
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Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function.
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I recommend authorization for the Federal Reserve System to issue notes in denominations
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of $1.
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So as to make possible the gradual withdrawal of silver certificates from circulation and
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the use of silver thus released from coinage purposes, I urge the Congress to take prompt
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action on these recommended changes.
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So what do you think about that?
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What do you think about that quote?
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So that's the quote they used to say that he was trying to destroy the Fred?
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That's the quote that he used to urge Congress to enact public law 8836, which was passed.
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So if you shut down silver as a currency, then the Federal Reserve disappears?
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No, no, Alex is just making shit up.
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This is just a coincidence to some extent.
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But it actually is so much worse for his argument than he actually thinks.
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He expects no one to look into this.
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Isn't that only reinforcing the power of paper currency?
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So in response, Congress passed H.R. 5389 in 1963 with large majorities in the House
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and Senate.
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This would go on to become public law 8836, the main effect of which was repealing the
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Silver Purchase Act of 1934.
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After public law 8836, the government signaled a shift away from silver and towards Federal
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Reserve notes.
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One of the elements of this whole thing was granting the Federal Reserve the authority
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to issue one and two dollar bills.
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One dollar bills were originally released in 1928 as silver certificates, hence the
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silver dollar.
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But after JFK passed this public law and the ensuing executive order, the Federal Reserve
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actually expanded its responsibilities as far as issuing currency is concerned.
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All the executive order did was allow the Treasury Department to issue silver certificates
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in the interim period while the transition was happening.
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Alex's theory relies on the idea that Executive Order 11110 was an attempt by JFK to take
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the power to print money away from the Federal Reserve and give that power to the Treasury.
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But a closer look at the order itself as well as the context surrounding it make it clear
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that that's the opposite of what it did.
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There's no way these acts could justify an argument that the Federal Reserve was mad
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at JFK about this.
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It's nonsense.
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That's crazy.
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It's complete bullshit.
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Now, I have had a great idea, and this is going to free us from having to deal with
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Alex quoting subsections as though he knows what he's talking about.
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I like that.
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All right?
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And it's all because of 11110.
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We have to name all bills in binary.
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Okay, so you could just say the name or whatever it translates to?
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No, so you have to say it in binary.
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So HR 896 would then be like, HR 11110001000110011.
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That translates to House Resolution, I am a robot.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And that way, anytime Alex is like, well, have you heard about HR 111000, you can just
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be like, ah, you can stop.
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I don't give a fuck.
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That would be really hard to track down.
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You just get really confused with all the...
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You know what you do?
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What?
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Alex also said there that JFK was trying to remove the troops from Vietnam.
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Yeah, he was not.
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He did make overtures towards intending to remove troops from Vietnam, but the time he
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was in office saw a 500% increase in troops that were in Vietnam.
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He did take some people, he did withdraw some troops, but the overall number expanded greatly
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during his time in office.
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So I mean, I don't see that as a good argument.
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And then also he says there that he was trying to make real civil rights change, and I don't
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know what that means.
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Yeah, was he?
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Somewhat.
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But I don't know what real civil rights means.
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Real civil rights change.
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I don't know what that means.
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Real civil rights change, Dan.
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I honestly don't know what that means.
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Real civil rights change.
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It's a problem.
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No, but like real civil rights change.
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I don't understand what that means.
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No, but like real ones.
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Real.
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Yeah, like real.
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What does Alex define as real civil rights change?
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Not just this laziness like, oh, let's give black people the right to vote or whatever
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it is.
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Very lazy.
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Not this bullshit like, oh, let's protect them under the equal rights clause.
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Right, right, right.
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But what it is, real civil rights change, is making sure white people are good forever.
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Right, right, right.
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That's real civil rights change.
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Real civil change is allowing states to not be a part of it.
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Yeah.
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So you can have fundamentally, systematically racist states bordering states that treat
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everyone like people.
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Exactly.
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Love that idea.
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Real civil rights change.
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Love the idea of a country.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Awesome.
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The last time you had an actual president was Kennedy.
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What?
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The oligarch took swift and decisive action.
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The fuck is he talking about?
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Later, Alex in his voiceover will say that the last, or every president since FDR has
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been controlled by these globalists.
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So if you use those two things- Also, what's a real president?
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Does he mean like not controlled by- Not controlled by the, definitely not Jews, bankers.
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Yeah.
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What?
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That's what he's saying.
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All right.
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The international finance oligarch- See, now I'm back on this dude's an idiot
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again.
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Well, he walks the line.
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I think he's a charlatan, but very smart.
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I think he is very smart.
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I mean, you don't get a fucking degree from Princeton, get a Fulbright scholarship to study
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in Italy, and then get a PhD just without some sort of fortitude.
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Right.
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But maybe he went crazy.
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That's possible.
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That's why I want to call him.
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Next thing you know, everyone's going to be posting messages, call Webster Tarpley instead
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of Larry Nichols.
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God damn it.
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Excuse me, Mr. Tarpley.
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Mr. Tarpley, you fucking nuts?
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Yeah.
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Okay, cool.
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You bet.
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Click.
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Try me.
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That sort of thing.
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Anyway, I just think there's an interesting dynamic going on where Webster Tarpley is
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saying that Kennedy was the last real president.
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In Alex's own words, later, I guess Coolidge was the last real president?
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I don't know.
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Man, these- Oh, no.
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I guess it would be what?
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Hoover was right before FDR.
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I don't know how to make this- There should be some sort of like- I don't know how to
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get people to talk or think about presidential history without thinking that it centers on
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one president.
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Right.
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Do you know what I mean?
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It's so unifocused.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The idea of the solitary executive who's- Right.
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Yeah.
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That doesn't make any fucking sense at all.
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And it doesn't even make sense if you take the entire picture of his presidency, which
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has to take into context the presidency before and then the presidency after.
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Like, you shouldn't be allowed to cherry pick history.
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Like I don't mean it like this, but some people should have restricted access to history.
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Maybe.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, you shouldn't be allowed to say bullshit like this.
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Well, you should be.
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You should take responsibility for it when you're wrong and you're just peddling bullshit.
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Yeah.
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And if you're going to talk about JFK, like fucking Nixon extended the Vietnam War through
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a back channel in order to get reelected.
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He got hundreds of thousands upon thousands of people killed.
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That's true.
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Just so he could get reelected.
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Why aren't you talking about that?
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Well- Like this is all fucking insane.
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I'm not sure what Tarpley's take on it is, but a lot of people in the like sort of Alex
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Jones, the intellectual sphere of his influences and those people, most of them didn't like
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Nixon at all either.
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Right.
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So like at least there's that.
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They're not Nixon supported, but unfortunately most of them supported George Wallace.
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So it's not better, but so at least they didn't like Nixon, but bad news, they wanted segregation.
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Great.
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All right.
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Good work guys.
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It's good news, bad news.
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That's what it is.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think that there is an irresponsibility that people like this do.
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The way that they get away with it is they are so nonspecific about what they're talking
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about that it called to task for like saying like, the last real president was Kennedy.
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What do you mean?
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What does that mean?
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He was real.
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What does that mean?
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No, it means like he kept it a hundred.
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Well sure.
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Because that lack of specificity, it's the same thing with saying that Bush tripled the
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federal government.
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Right.
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Right.
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And they rely on these, these sort of vague notions of like, that sounds good.
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And you trick a lot of people and in doing so they accept fraudulent narratives about
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the past.
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Yeah.
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What's the logical fallacy?
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Appeal to authority there?
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I guess that's what you do when you call Webster Tarpley an author and historian.
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Yeah.
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No kidding.
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Anyway.
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Here's J.F.
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Higgins shot.
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Enjoy.
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Also, apparently, so here's the, here's my favorite part of this.
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All right.
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This is the Zapruder film.
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Right.
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But it has prisonplanet.com on the bottom of it.
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Like they bought, like they were the ones who got it.
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They bought the rights.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Abraham Zapruder now works for Infowars.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Why do you have, like, oh, we're licensing this footage from prisonplanet.com.
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You can only find this one place.
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Right.
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Message to future US presidents and leaders across the world was clear.
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Back and to the left.
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Do as you're told.
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To the right.
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Or die.
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Back and to the left.
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Kennedy was the last.
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Thanks for using his full middle name, dude.
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States.
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And until the globalists are removed from power, we will never have another real one.
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Huh.
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The other thing about the American presidency you've got to remember.
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Oh, God.
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This is a puppet post.
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Puppet.
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It's automatically going to be a puppet.
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Me puppet.
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You puppet.
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The idea that Obama is somebody who's going to come in and exercise real authority when
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he's obviously been chosen and given everything that he's got.
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Prove it.
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Given.
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Prove it.
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He's given little more than corporate-
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Give it!
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The first fucking black president in America's history has been given everything.
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You know how they do it.
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The icon KRS-One is not just known for selling millions of albums, he has led a tireless
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crusade against-
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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It's so funny that Alex doesn't-
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You can't go.
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You can't do that.
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That's whiplash.
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That hurts me.
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That hurts me.
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You can't go from Webster Tarpley saying that Obama's been given everything to being like
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international hip-hop star KRS-One, like no, no, no, no.
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You got to ease me into that, dude.
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And I think it's so funny that we listen to the episode with KRS-One and Alex keeps calling
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him KSR-One.
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I know.
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I like that he at least got his voice over together for this.
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He had to do about six or seven takes on this one.
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Yeah.
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And youth violence has been a strong voice for human rights.
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If they controlled it before, what makes you think they're not controlling it now?
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That means nothing.
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The country was on the verge of revolution.
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They threw a black man up.
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Now we like this.
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When he's saying like this, he's got his arms crossed.
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He's leaning back, crossing his arms.
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What do you mean we were on the brink of revolution?
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What does that mean?
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You know what?
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I suppose there is something of an argument to be made that had-
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I would argue there isn't.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, had the financial crisis been allowed to grow into the full blown Great Depression
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that it could have become had we not passed the stimulus package, which somehow they're
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against as well.
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Right.
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We'll get into that later.
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That would have led to-
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Maybe.
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You could make an argument that that could have led to revolution.
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We could imagine a scenario where John McCain gets elected and passes the same bill, as
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unlikely as that is.
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If they're all puppets, then he would have done that.
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You know, like if they're all puppets of the finance oligarchs and whatever-
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Yeah, but he's a maverick, Dan.
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But if they had chosen John McCain and Palin to win, then he would have passed the stimulus
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bill because that's what the globalists want them to do.
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The argument is so fucking stupid.
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It is nothing.
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Yeah.
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It's so frustrating because there's no way out of it.
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There's no way out of the argument.
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It's purely speculative.
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Yes.
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It's like, oh, if this could have happened, then maybe this would have happened.
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And they're two months into his presidency.
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Although I do like his point, if you- No, no, no.
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I mean, not- Hold on.
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Gotta raise my eye, bro.
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Let me continue.
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By his, you mean KRS-1, not ours.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely KRS-1.
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With the election of Obama and everybody kind of leaning back and just saying, okay, cool,
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now we're in good hands, that did lead to the Republicans taking over literally every
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state government for a long time.
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It did lead to being on the brink of a revolution.
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Yeah, well, that's true.
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So I don't know if you're, I don't, maybe KRS-1 is a better trends forecaster than
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Donald Trump.
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I think KRS-1 is a pretty great trends forecaster.
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Possibly.
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He's a bad analogy forecaster.
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Oh, undoubtedly.
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He's a great trends.
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You would think he'd have better analogies after decades of writing songs.
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He's really good at writing songs.
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Yeah, but that takes a while.
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He's not just going off the do- Oh, no, he is a freestyler.
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Yeah.
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They give him the money.
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They give him the bundling.
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They give him vote fraud.
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They give him kindling.
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The media whores.
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They give him goons.
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They even have elected officials making threats to put people in jail if they criticize Obama
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in public.
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All of this is the- They give him corgis.
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And that means that he is a puppet, actually more of a puppet than anybody else, more of
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a puppet than Mrs. Clinton would have been, even more of a puppet than McCain.
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He's the maximum puppet that we've had since Jimmy Carter.
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They put a black face on the new- Jimmy Carter was a puppet?
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I don't care.
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I don't care.
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KRS ain't buying it.
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What kind of historian says Jimmy Carter was a puppet?
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I honestly don't give a shit.
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What are we doing?
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I don't give a shit.
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What is that?
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That should disqualify you from being a historian.
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Done.
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Hey.
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Jimmy Carter was a puppet.
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Move on.
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Peanut puppet.
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Peanut sounds like puppet.
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Terror puppet babies.
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Mr. Puppet would be a wonderful marionette.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Full silence.
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This is a very triangle heavy graphic right now.
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We don't have a prime minister.
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Triangle.
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So Alex is reporting that in a- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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You paused it on the perfect graphic.
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It's a bunch of business names.
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Because if you look at this, this is a perfect snapshot in time.
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There is a graphic for Winamp and MapQuest.
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Court TV.
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Some Netscape right there.
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Netscape.
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Oh yeah, it was a big time.
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AOL was big.
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Oh yeah.
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CompuServe.
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Oh, loving it.
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So before this graphic came up, Alex was saying and reporting that at a secret meeting, David
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Rockefeller defined the new world order as serving the international banking elite.
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This naturally raises the question of how he's getting this information if it was said
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in a secret meeting.
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I don't know.
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It should come as no surprise.
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Abraham Lincoln wrote it down.
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This information doesn't come from a recording or an official transcript or from even a whistle
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blower who was there.
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It comes from Daniel Estelin, who claims that someone told him that Rockefeller said these
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things.
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We got deep into Daniel Estelin's sourcing problems back when we covered Endgame.
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And we learned how one of the people he quotes as an expert on Bilderberg in his book claims
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to be a space commander with the interplanetary order.
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So it should be repetitive to go over all those problems now, all over again.
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Suffice it to say, Daniel Estelin is full of shit, and unless this quote can be in any
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way substantiated, it's not worth thinking about, much less building a career on like
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Alex has.
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Now, to add insult to injury, in that clip, Alex said that it was the 1991 Bilderberg
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conference in Avion, France.
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The 1991 Bilderberg conference was in Baden-Baden, Germany, the 1992 conference was in Avion,
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Lebain.
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It seems like he should know that.
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Yeah, you know, on a normal documentary, I'd be like, okay, you fucked up, that happens,
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you should apologize for that.
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On this documentary, fuck off, what are you doing, what are you fucking doing?
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You're going to make an argument entirely based around the globalist and Bilderberg
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being the most horrible thing that's ever been and you're going to get your fucking
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dates wrong?
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Fuck off.
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I have specific information about this Bilderberg conference, yet I can't get basic facts right.
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The secret Bilderberg conference was in 1991, though.
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Fair enough.
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The secret conference is always where it was last year or where it's going to be the next
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year.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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But the real conference, they switch off.
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That's what Estelin told me.
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It's like the Montreal tennis, uh, never mind.
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I will gladly.
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Never mind.
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So the ATP and the WTA, they switched locations for the media to attack anyone who dared to
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warn the public that a dictatorial world government was being constructed right under their arms.
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I love this show.
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And the national sovereignty was being deliberately destroyed.
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And now, after years of denial, the media and the elite themselves are proudly announcing
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that not only is world government real, but it is the answer to the financial crisis that
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they carefully engineered.
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Hey everybody, it's Dan.
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That is where we're going to just have to leave off for today, uh, today's first episode
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here.
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Um, uh, yeah, I mean, hey, we've got a cliffhanger here.
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Did the media come out and say that the new world order was here?
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Did they announce that?
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Is Alex talking about something real or is this yet another, uh, load of bullshit that
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he's trying to peddle in this documentary?
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You have to tune in tomorrow to find out, uh, guys, thanks so much for listening.
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terrible at upkeeping, uh, the, uh, Facebook page.
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I'm not good at it.
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Please do subscribe.
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I got too many other plates I'm spinning, uh, with this when I'm real bad at posting
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stuff on Twitter and Facebook, but we do appreciate that you have found the show.
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I hope you're enjoying it.
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Uh, like I said, we're back for part two of the Obama deception coverage tomorrow and
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it just gets juicier and juicier.
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And by that I mean I lose my patience with this documentary as it goes on longer and
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longer.
Unknown Speaker (02:16:16.300)
Um, thank you all so much.
Unknown Speaker (02:16:17.300)
Uh, uh, I don't, since I'm just doing a little bumper here, I don't have anybody to reference
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who hasn't killed anybody.
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I'm the only person sitting in this room.
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I haven't killed anybody, but I know one guy who has technically theoretically has killed
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someone and that's a guy who goes by the name of Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
